1 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:35,199 Okay. Well, 3 PM we'll bring this regular council meeting to order and 2 00:05:33,199 --> 00:05:37,759 I'll ask Council Heistad to please read the land acknowledgement. 3 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:42,960 » Thanks, Mayor Berkeley. The town of Inisville acknowledges that we are 4 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:46,240 meeting on Treaty 7 um treaty 7 territory of the ancestral and 5 00:05:44,479 --> 00:05:52,800 traditional territory of the Blackfoot Confederacy, Kaii, Picani and Sika as 6 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:56,479 well as the Sutina First Nation and Stony Nakota First Nation. We 7 00:05:54,720 --> 00:06:02,400 acknowledge that this territory is home to Miy Nation of Alberta region 3 with 8 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:07,039 the historical Northwest Matei homeland. We acknowledge the many First Nations, 9 00:06:04,479 --> 00:06:10,639 Matei and Inuit who have lived in and cared for these lands for generations. 10 00:06:09,039 --> 00:06:14,960 We are grateful for the traditional knowledge keepers and elders who are 11 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:18,479 still with us today and those who have gone before us. We make this 12 00:06:17,039 --> 00:06:25,639 acknowledgement as an act of reconciliation and a gratitude to those 13 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,639 whose territory we reside on. 14 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:41,360 I would make that motion. M Barkley. >> Thank you. All in favor? 15 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:45,360 Carried. All right. And we'll move into 3.1, the 16 00:06:43,280 --> 00:06:50,160 regular council meeting minutes for October or October August the 10th. 17 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:54,639 Could I please have someone make a motion that we um adopt those as 18 00:06:52,319 --> 00:06:59,039 presented? Councelor Highand. >> I'll make that motion. 19 00:06:55,840 --> 00:07:04,000 » Thank you. Any changes? No. All in favor? Okay. Carried. 20 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:09,280 All right. And we'll get into our council agenda now. Uh 4.1 uh notice of 21 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:12,080 motion. And I'll turn it over to CEO Becker. 22 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:15,759 » Thanks, Mark. Barkley. Hello, councel. I'll speak to the contents of the 23 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:20,080 report. Put it over then to councelor Russell who was the author of the notice 24 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:26,240 of motion that was presented before council on August the 10th. Uh as you 25 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:29,680 can see, councelor Russell uh support by council through a resolution to direct 26 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:33,919 administration um regarding some uh information 27 00:07:31,759 --> 00:07:39,680 regarding uh moving into eliminating one AMP meeting per month as well as the 28 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:45,120 summer months. Um although not part of the written notice of motion, council 29 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:50,479 Russell did speak to the proposed motions um which I'm I'm gathering he 30 00:07:48,319 --> 00:07:55,280 would speak to today. I won't read them and I'll let him um speak to that. As 31 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,639 per the request of administration, administration did conduct a little bit 32 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:04,400 of research um and looked at different 33 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:08,560 municipalities similar size and location um in the area and a little bit beyond 34 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:13,120 just on the number of uh council meetings, committee meetings uh that 35 00:08:10,639 --> 00:08:17,520 make up um their governance model. That's there for your information 36 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:22,319 council. um was also referenced uh requested for budget impacts for 37 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:27,039 eliminating one AMP meeting per month as well as the summer months. Um as council 38 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:30,720 runs Russell indicated in his uh delivery of his notice of motion 39 00:08:29,199 --> 00:08:38,959 administration agrees it being that $10,000 um savings um which is gathered 40 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:43,200 through your remuneration policy. uh through the work I undertook um 41 00:08:40,959 --> 00:08:47,760 difficult to really quantify dollars but you can quantify dollars on the amount 42 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:52,640 of time administration does spend on development of of council agenda items. 43 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:56,800 Um however 44 00:08:54,560 --> 00:09:02,320 did not quantify a number so much to demonstrate the value or the cost of 45 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:07,360 developing um the agendas but we'll speak to this throughout the report. 46 00:09:05,519 --> 00:09:10,560 um administration through myself indicate ind indicates there is there 47 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:14,080 could be some inefficiencies for administration in the ability to 48 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:18,399 allocate time to other priorities during the week off the weeks off if there's 49 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:22,480 five weeks in a given month instead of allocating time slots each week to 50 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:30,080 report development the report indicates later that you can speak probably argued 51 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:34,320 counter argue to the point that um u it could add additional workload to 52 00:09:32,399 --> 00:09:40,160 administration um From my perspective, it outlines 53 00:09:37,839 --> 00:09:44,320 really the procedure in developing a council agenda agenda. Whether it's a 54 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:48,240 council meeting or an AMP meeting, it's the same process, but as the report 55 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:54,240 states, each director researchers prepares their RFDs. Um, comes to the CO 56 00:09:51,839 --> 00:09:58,160 for review. Once our review is complete, um, it goes to the executive assistant 57 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:04,320 then to start the process to put into the agenda format digitally. 58 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:10,160 Um, and really depends on the size of the agenda, but it could range from 2 to 59 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:15,680 4 hours uh per agenda. Um, I was saying this morning to SLT, that's I could 60 00:10:12,959 --> 00:10:21,200 spend probably two to three days per week um regardless um as a CO and 61 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:26,720 reviewing and developing the package um each week dedicated for C to council's 62 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:32,399 uh agenda development. report indicates um how council has his 63 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:38,000 um traditionally used AMPA meetings and that is to dive deeper into different 64 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:43,120 agenda items um but also been used as a engagement channel with with community 65 00:10:40,399 --> 00:10:48,000 stakeholders um as well as for policy and strategy reviews 66 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:52,959 um including budget. Um the report indicates it but we're 67 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:58,720 here to support you. So it's really up the council to determine what governance 68 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:04,000 way or u mechanism or procedure you wish to have to allow you to conduct your 69 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:10,560 work. Uh just going down into the very last sentence um as stated amp meetings 70 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:15,040 rest largely with council strategic and governance priorities and the style and 71 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:18,880 depth of council wishes to govern by. So if council has any questions to my 72 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:21,920 report um specifically to the information I presented certain to take 73 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,399 those questions. If not, I put over to councelor Russell to speak to his notice 74 00:11:23,279 --> 00:11:28,240 of motion. >> Okay. Thank you, CEO Becker. Council 75 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:33,200 Russell. >> Okay. Thanks, Mayor Burke. So, I I spoke 76 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:38,480 to this at the last meeting and you know um about the length of minutes when we 77 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:44,320 go back that 96 minute length of meeting um is two years back and so it's 15 78 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:48,560 months of the previous council and 9 months of the current council. So those 79 00:11:46,079 --> 00:11:54,320 are the average meeting lengths and I don't think anyone could say that any 80 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:58,560 argument was um cut short or any discussion cut short in that time. So we 81 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:03,360 were able to accomplish them in in a fairly short some of them fairly short 82 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:09,279 times. Our last meeting was an example if we hadn't have spent the 10 minutes 83 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:12,720 on the notice of a of uh motion that that I put forward there really was only 84 00:12:10,959 --> 00:12:17,040 one agenda item and we would have been done in 50 minutes. Um and I understand 85 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:21,440 there are some times that it's going to be a little longer but the reason I 86 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:25,600 brought this forward wasn't um you know there is budget implications for sure uh 87 00:12:23,839 --> 00:12:29,760 in terms of renumeration for for council. There is certainly time demands 88 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:34,320 that would be a little less for administration if we reduce by one but 89 00:12:32,560 --> 00:12:39,680 it's looking at being the most effective governors but we also and need to do it 90 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:45,040 in the most efficient way. So, not knowing if it would work long term. Um, 91 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:50,480 I did want to wait until, you know, I the first few months I thought wondered 92 00:12:48,079 --> 00:12:55,279 why we had four, but as it went on, I wondered more. So, waited the 9 months 93 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:59,120 to bring it forward. For me, I think there's with the motion that I'm going 94 00:12:57,279 --> 00:13:04,240 to put forward, there's very little risk to council because um as I mentioned 95 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:09,839 before, council always has the right to to call an additional meeting if if 96 00:13:06,399 --> 00:13:15,040 needed for an emergent item. Um but based on the data that's there on the 97 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:18,399 meetings of the last 24 months, um I think there's a possibility that we 98 00:13:16,399 --> 00:13:23,760 could maybe do it in in three meetings a month rather than four. 99 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:28,240 Um, but I'm not asking council to make a commitment right now without having a 100 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:32,959 trial basis. So, what what I'm recommending and I'll put the motion on 101 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:37,440 the floor that council trial one meeting per month for 6 months held on the first 102 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:42,720 Monday of each month from September 1st, 2026 to February 28th, 2027. 103 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:45,600 If this first motion passes, then I would make the second motion. But 104 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:49,360 there's no sense making that till we see how the first motion goes. And that 105 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:54,240 second motion would be at that time after a six-month trial we evaluate it. 106 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:58,240 And for me, I think there's zero risk, but I think there's two wins for council 107 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:02,560 in this if we were to do this. One is if we were to do it and we were able to do 108 00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:07,680 it for three meetings a month and it it seemed to be effective, there would be 109 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:11,440 some savings in terms of of u cost to taxpayers and also in terms of time to 110 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:17,040 our administration. um with a new CEO, they're going to be, 111 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:20,880 you know, have a a busy year getting to get their feet under them. So, it having 112 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:27,680 that extra time might be beneficial to a new CEO. Um but, you know, so that would 113 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:32,079 be one win. It also would be a win if we found out it didn't work. Um because 114 00:14:30,399 --> 00:14:36,160 then we could I could say to any taxpayer said to me, "Why do you have 115 00:14:34,079 --> 00:14:39,519 four?" I could say, "Listen, we tried to do it in three. It's just not possible. 116 00:14:38,079 --> 00:14:44,160 We need to have the fourth meeting." So, I see a win on both sides regardless of 117 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:50,320 what the decision is in February 22nd, but we won't know unless we tie do the 118 00:14:46,399 --> 00:14:54,959 trial. So, I'll just leave it at that. >> Thank you, Councelor Russell. So, we 119 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:58,160 have a motion on the the table. Um, I'll open it up for discussion now. We'll go 120 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,480 around to see what everybody thinks. Uh, councelor 121 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,480 » Heistad. 122 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,839 » Well, okay. I thought you were going to put your light on, but 123 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:10,880 » Okay. >> Oh, yeah. 124 00:15:08,639 --> 00:15:15,720 You go ahead. >> No. Beauty before age. 125 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:24,959 » Okay. Yeah. Actually, um I made a comment. I think it was a couple weeks 126 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:32,320 ago. Um I I think that our current uh route that we work on is is effective. I 127 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:35,839 believe that. Um similar to what I'm trying to recall 128 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:40,639 what I said, the C we got a new CEO coming. We have a lot of changes. I 129 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:46,560 think there's a lot more work for this council in the next three years and it 130 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:52,240 comes down to with you have a new CEO coming on stream um is making sure that 131 00:15:49,279 --> 00:15:56,720 we're doing our jobs as um you know governors and making sure that we're um 132 00:15:55,199 --> 00:16:02,320 attuned to what's going on in our community. And I think that having that 133 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:07,279 those two au that gives us that opportunity to have those communications 134 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:12,480 um and and the one-on- ones with people in our own community and it's we're 135 00:16:09,759 --> 00:16:19,759 addressing things uh sooner than later. And I find that the AMP is a great oper 136 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:26,000 opportunity on the as to the day-to-day work whereas the regular council 137 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:31,279 meetings uh you know sometimes we it's we're dealing with the day-to-day but 138 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:35,440 the we get to really know the the nuts and bolts of what's going on in each 139 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:42,079 department and we have that free flow and I like the free flow as a counselor 140 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:46,480 uh more regularly than not. So, Councelor Russell, I'm going to be 141 00:16:44,399 --> 00:16:50,000 opposed to this this motion, but I respect where you're coming from and 142 00:16:48,399 --> 00:16:52,880 thanks. >> Okay. Thank you, Councelor Heistad and 143 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:57,600 Councelor Hill. >> Yes. Thank you. Um, I'm more than uh I 144 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:01,759 would be definitely in favor of trying this out. I I see the side of being 145 00:16:59,759 --> 00:17:06,480 responsible to the community and and seeing if we can uh function well and 146 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:12,799 efficiently without the fourth meeting. Um, and I think there's there's uh like 147 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:16,799 I don't see a problem with trying it and uh being able to say that we did try it 148 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:21,760 and and knowing that we've been kind of with the information provided to us, you 149 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:26,319 know, there are three meetings a month seems to be quite uh regular or quite 150 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:29,039 common for most municipalities, but uh maybe we do need the fourth, maybe we 151 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:32,000 don't, but this is the only way we're going to find out. So, I'm I'm fine with 152 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:37,120 that. >> Okay. Thank you, Council Hill. Anybody 153 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:40,160 else want to uh jump in? Uh Councilman Keller. 154 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:47,120 » Thank you, Mayor Barkley. Um I'll speak in favor of uh Councelor Russell's uh uh 155 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:51,360 motion here as well. I think uh as he said earlier, we got nothing to lose by 156 00:17:49,039 --> 00:17:56,000 trying this and just seeing how it works. Um I too have often wondered, 157 00:17:54,240 --> 00:18:01,919 particularly from the administrative side, the volume of work that happens uh 158 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:07,039 each week after we leave here uh to get us ready for the next meeting. So, um, I 159 00:18:04,799 --> 00:18:12,640 I think there's some some wins here and we'll have some answers in February. 160 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:18,160 » Thank you, Councelor Wing. >> Thank you, Mayor Barkley. Um, I will not 161 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:22,559 be voting in favor of this resolution and given a lot of thought. Um, and I I 162 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:27,520 think the conversation has been really important, but I guess where my position 163 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:30,559 is right now, um, I've I've written down some points because I think it's I think 164 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:35,520 it's actually important more important that we consider um, than just a couple 165 00:18:33,039 --> 00:18:38,960 of comments. So, at our workshop on August the 5th, we reviewed every single 166 00:18:37,679 --> 00:18:43,280 council, committee, commission, and board relative to their mandate and 167 00:18:40,799 --> 00:18:48,960 purpose, our participation, and our desire to continue or not. So, we did 168 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:53,679 not identify A&P at that time as being a committee of concern or determine a 169 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:58,559 desire to amend its terms of reference, which is schedule A of our council 170 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:03,039 procedure bylaw. Um, the terms of reference has a very um intense 171 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:07,679 description of the work that council should be doing at&p. And so, you know, 172 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:11,840 if we're not having wholesome A&P meetings, that's on us. where I would 173 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:16,240 say to you that eliminating the meeting is in fact just making it more evident 174 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:21,039 that there's some of this work that we need to be doing that we haven't maybe 175 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:24,480 been paying attention to. Um, in the five summers that I've been on council, 176 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:29,679 we have adjusted our meeting schedule, eliminating AMP meetings and therefore 177 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:34,559 only meeting for two council meetings in July and in August. So, it's been in in 178 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:39,919 the 11 weeks since our last council meeting on June the 24th, we've met four 179 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:44,480 times for council business. And yes, some some of us have participated in 180 00:19:41,919 --> 00:19:49,039 community events. We've had open houses and a workshop. Um, but I feel like 181 00:19:47,039 --> 00:19:52,160 we've become disconnected as a team by reducing our meetings to that degree 182 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:57,039 because there has been a lot of stuff going on. So typically after we would 183 00:19:54,640 --> 00:20:01,440 have a community meeting or an event at the first AM immediately following we 184 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:05,200 would debrief that event. We would talk about the participation we would talk 185 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:08,720 about the feedback. We would talk about our own agenda and the content and 186 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:11,760 whether we wanted to continue as we move forward. So, I feel like we're not 187 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:17,600 closing the loops or we're waiting to close the loops. Um, and perhaps not not 188 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:21,840 having the proper or adequate time to do that because we have other things that 189 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:26,240 that are on our regular council meeting agendas. So, I would actually propose in 190 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:32,640 the future that we add one A&P back into July and August to ensure the the uh 191 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:37,919 connection and the continuity. Um, I think the timing for this, um, our 192 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:43,120 most important work and our and relationship is recruiting, hiring, and 193 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:46,880 subsequent retention of our CEO. And we're all aware of the ongoing work. We 194 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:51,600 aren't even halfway through the process we've identified for the successful 195 00:20:48,559 --> 00:20:55,520 completion of the work. And once we have found our preferred candidate, the TR 196 00:20:53,440 --> 00:21:00,159 transition and successful onboarding of that individual will begin. I've sat on 197 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:04,480 both sides of the table. I've been the one reporting to the board and I've been 198 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:08,880 the director or chair of the board and I understand the complexities of those 199 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:13,120 relationships and relationship building, but I also understand the need 200 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:16,640 especially at the beginning for time to invest in relationships and to ensure 201 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:21,840 we're all moving forward in the same direction. So just sort of my last 202 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:26,640 thought is we have a really aggressive and optimistic strategic plan that we 203 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:30,799 adopted unanimously earlier this year. Um it identifies significant and 204 00:21:28,799 --> 00:21:33,919 important goals and outcomes, none of which will happen if we aren't all on 205 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:38,880 the same page and moving the plan forward. Um housing, community economic 206 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:43,760 development, the new recreation master plan, asset management, school site, so 207 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:47,840 on. But finally, the last point on that in that strap plan is around land 208 00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:52,240 development. And I saved that for last because last week at our budget meeting, 209 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:58,159 our budget open house, the last guest who joined us about it was about quarter 210 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:02,159 to 4 was a major land developer in this region who's very curious about what our 211 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:06,960 what our plans are for future growth. This person is aware of our strategic 212 00:22:04,159 --> 00:22:12,080 plan. This company is aware of what our intentions are and so they're curious 213 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:15,520 about well what's coming next. And so it was a significant conversation. It 214 00:22:13,919 --> 00:22:22,159 should lead to further meetings and hopefully further outcomes. But I think 215 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:26,240 the one the biggest gap or biggest lapse in good governance is adopting a strat 216 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:32,000 plan and not resourcing it um adequately and effectively. So um I I just think 217 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:36,720 that to step away um to reduce our meetings by 25% we 218 00:22:34,799 --> 00:22:44,960 eliminate time for ourselves and for our community as well. Um, and so I yeah, I 219 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:48,880 would prefer that we um I I think it's I think that it takes time and commitment 220 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:54,159 to support council. I know it does to support council, but it also takes time, 221 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:58,960 a huge amount of time for a meeting to be um rescheduled or to be put inserted 222 00:22:57,039 --> 00:23:03,120 into every one of our individual calendars. So if we don't have 223 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:07,280 significant content for an agenda, then council could decide to cancel it. But I 224 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:12,880 think that's much easier than trying to fit meetings in or reschedule them. So 225 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:16,240 that's my thoughts. Thanks. All right. Thank you very much for those comments. 226 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:20,720 Um I don't know. I kind of all over the 227 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:26,400 place on this. I you know work es and flows. I I think last term we came out 228 00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:31,280 of the the shoot uh very ambitious and there was a lot going on. um new 229 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:36,000 industrial park development, the southwest residential, the outdoor 230 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:42,000 rinks, the playgrounds, and on and on and on. The aquatic center took up a lot 231 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:45,120 of time. And I think towards the end of that term, the last couple of years, you 232 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:48,799 can't just keep putting things on administration's desk. Uh they need to 233 00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:55,039 have time to breathe and and do the work. and and so I I think that's why we 234 00:23:52,000 --> 00:24:00,000 maybe saw a bit of a a downturn in in time with with&mp and am but I I don't 235 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:05,360 know that I'm just kind of anecdotally saying that. Um, on the other hand, I I 236 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:09,760 think that um, you know, we you're right, councelor Russell, we we haven't 237 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:14,080 spent a lot of time in AMP or in council meetings for that matter and and um, you 238 00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:18,799 know, that that's going to be dependent upon, you know, council driving that 239 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:23,520 agenda and driving our strategic priorities and and, you know, meetings 240 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:28,880 will last as long as there's good dialogue going on. So if that's not 241 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:33,760 necessarily taking place then um the meetings will will be very short. So you 242 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:37,039 know I I don't mind trying this for a few months. I don't know whether it's 6 243 00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:41,440 months or four months or or whatever it is. I I'm interested when we we do have 244 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:46,159 a new CEO in place what their thoughts will be on on this. Um I look at nine 245 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:52,960 communities on this list some larger than us that do not have uh two AMPs a 246 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:59,440 month. And so I I do see the 247 00:24:57,039 --> 00:25:03,120 I guess I I I see how much time administration does put into the package 248 00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:06,240 every week and and that is a lot of administration time and you're right 249 00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:12,159 it's week after week after week after week and and um so I I think uh you know 250 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:16,000 some of councelor Wing's comments are you know very valid but you know if we 251 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,880 have a an open house like we did last week for budget well we have 252 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:23,760 opportunities in our round table to report back on those And um that's where 253 00:25:22,159 --> 00:25:29,440 that should be happening or we can put it as an agenda item on the actual 254 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:33,520 agenda. But you know I I think to support administration and 255 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:38,640 and all the things they have on their plate. Um I wouldn't mind trying this 256 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:43,919 for a few months and and see how it goes. And and like I said with a new CEO 257 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:49,360 coming on board, let's see what that person has to say going forward. And and 258 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:58,480 it was interesting that um oh I won't get into that. Never mind. But um yeah. 259 00:25:52,320 --> 00:26:00,400 So yeah, we have Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So um do you want to follow up with anything? 260 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,600 Council >> just follow up on on councelor Wing one 261 00:26:02,159 --> 00:26:07,440 one comment you made about our committee meeting. Um it was brought up in our 262 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:10,720 group there and we did bring it forward the end, but no decisions were made on 263 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:15,919 any committees at that meeting. It's going to the next stage, but um I think 264 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:20,880 I made council aware at that time that I did have this notice of motion already 265 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:24,640 in place coming forward. So, um, but I think everyone's had their their fair 266 00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:29,200 share. I respect everyone's opinion and the motion's on the table, I guess. 267 00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:35,039 » Okay. So, we'll call all in favor of, uh, Councelor Russell's motion. 268 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:38,720 Okay. And opposed. Okay. So, four to two. It's carried. Thank you, 269 00:26:37,919 --> 00:26:40,720 » Mayor Barkley. >> Yes. 270 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:45,360 » Could I make the second motion now that that first motion's passed? So, I move 271 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:51,200 that at the February 22nd, 2027 council meeting, council evaluate the six-month 272 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:55,600 trial of one ANA am meeting per month and decide to either permanently move to 273 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:59,279 one AM meeting a month or revert back to two AM meetings per month. 274 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:05,679 » Okay. Thank you. Does anybody have any further discussion about that? All in 275 00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:11,039 favor? All right. Carried unanimously. All right. Thank you. 276 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:14,880 Okay. We will move into 4.2 two and the CAO report. 277 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:20,159 » Thanks, R Barkley. As you can see, the report is quite brief. Only thing I'd 278 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:24,960 highlight is again if council has any feedback on your recent council 279 00:27:21,679 --> 00:27:28,799 engagement um that could come into now or kind of lead into the conversation 280 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:32,720 about budget, it would be helpful for you perhaps as well as administration to 281 00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:36,880 hear some of that feedback. Other than that, that's my report. 282 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:40,000 » Okay. Thank you. Um Okay, you go first. I I have some feedback. Um, there were a 283 00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:43,279 few people that showed up. I know midafter afternoon, midsummer was was 284 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:47,919 tough for people to get out, but I think the evening one coming up might have 285 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:51,840 better attendance. But I wonder if we were to advertise that there will be a 286 00:27:49,679 --> 00:27:56,399 brief presentation at such and such a time. So I think what is the hours for 287 00:27:54,000 --> 00:28:01,120 the next one? 6:00 to 8. So whether we say 6:15 or something, there'll be a 288 00:27:58,399 --> 00:28:05,679 brief presentation to maybe get people there more to common time to maybe hear 289 00:28:04,159 --> 00:28:09,760 um from folks. That's just a suggestion I would have. I I don't know if other 290 00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:13,600 counselors agree with that, but um I think it's important to have those. Um 291 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:16,240 and I do think the next one being in the evening might be more highly attended. 292 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,320 But >> no, I agree. It was a beautiful sunny 293 00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:23,440 summer afternoon and uh just so everybody knows, Ken had put together 294 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,640 some slides for me and I did have a presentation, but we thought we'd just 295 00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:30,880 play it by ear and see how many people came. Um some feedback. I will go after 296 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:33,200 councelor Heistad because he has his lights on. So, 297 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:37,520 » no, that's okay. I was I was listening. I should have turned off Mayor Barkley. 298 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:42,799 I would agree with councelor uh Russell as with many of your comments as as I 299 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:48,159 cut you off. I think it's I think it's important to have a bit of a 300 00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:52,000 presentation and and not a big Q&A but uh it was an opportunity it's another 301 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:56,640 opportunity to have those discussions. So I'm in favor of that. Thanks. 302 00:28:54,320 --> 00:29:00,720 » Thank you for that. um some feedback I would say that the people that I spoke 303 00:28:58,399 --> 00:29:05,360 to it was really around budget and why are you know costs going up so much and 304 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:09,919 staffing and and that sort of thing. So I'm wondering if we could think about 305 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:14,399 what should we have there. I I don't think it's helpful to the person that 306 00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:18,000 you're speaking to just to say, "Oh, well, this and this and this and this." 307 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:24,880 because they're not necessarily going to to recollect all those details where um 308 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:28,559 I don't know whether we could have, you know, something in print that we 309 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:33,360 could give people that showed inflationary costs that showed I know uh 310 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:39,679 Director Kennedy I I always love that 2,00 to $2,900 number, but uh update 311 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:45,600 that to whatever it might be now um because it it's a good illustrative 312 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:51,919 point to um to explain um you know, how many staff do we have? 313 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:54,720 Right, that was a um a question I got u thank thankfully director Vickers was 314 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,840 there because I don't necessarily know that off the top of my head, but how 315 00:29:56,559 --> 00:30:01,760 many do we have and how many part- timerrs do we have and when do they come 316 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:06,880 and when do they go and and I I think you know the more detail that we can 317 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:10,880 provide the better. But um yeah, I think of even I mean we talk 318 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:15,039 about accounting software and how much that's going to cost to to update and 319 00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:19,679 licensing for that kind of thing and that's something that we didn't have 20 320 00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:25,279 years ago or 15 years ago. So I I think there's a lot that's changed and with um 321 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:29,200 how an organization runs of course as anybody's organization has changed. So 322 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:33,080 you know it's it's different than it was. So, 323 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:41,360 but those are those are mostly the conversations I had was around that and 324 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:45,440 then um the developer at the end and and uh but I I know that director Jenkins is 325 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:49,279 dealing with people like that all the time and and we'll bring things forward 326 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:52,919 from that but it's great to see him there for sure. 327 00:30:53,039 --> 00:30:58,720 And I uh sorry, Emma uh council, I've had some discussions with communications 328 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:02,320 and we were going to update just the advertising that it starts at 6 so that 329 00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:05,919 hopefully we'll get everyone there at 6:00 and that someone will be saying a 330 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:09,039 few words at the beginning to kind of >> Well, I would say there's going to be a 331 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,760 presentation like at 6:15 or something like councelor Russell said. 332 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,200 » Yeah, we talked about that and we'll update how that's looking going out to 333 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,720 try and get everyone there right at 6 kind of thing. 334 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:24,559 » Okay. Okay. Thank you. And I don't know if they're um I I know the the involve 335 00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:30,000 information is upright where people can use the the slider on there to determine 336 00:31:28,559 --> 00:31:33,279 do you want to put money into this or this and what happens and uh Mayor 337 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:37,279 Berkeley. So there is a section under the asset management where they can put 338 00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:40,880 money in for different assets and they have a certain dollar amount. Uh and we 339 00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:44,880 are continually updating the budget page on involve each week as we put things 340 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:48,799 out through budget posts. We're continually updating that page. Yes, I 341 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,159 think the uh state of infrastructure report we didn't have that there that 342 00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:57,840 probably be worthwhile to to have some copies of that and because it was a 343 00:31:54,960 --> 00:32:04,159 topic of discussion for sure just the supports 344 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:07,840 what we're doing. So, okay. Councelor High. 345 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,519 » Um Mayor Barkley, Councelor Wing was fine. Go ahead. 346 00:32:08,399 --> 00:32:16,240 » No, you were ahead of me. >> Well, okay. Um just the other a question 347 00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:21,679 that I've had at at the event, but also otherwise um is around assessments and 348 00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:25,440 how assessments are actually done and in our last term we actually had our 349 00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:30,640 assessors come and give us a presentation and so I wonder if that's 350 00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:34,240 not an opportunity for um the future to have a delegation come and explain how 351 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,519 it all happens and if we could kind of advertise for maybe people would come 352 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:41,519 and listen but if we could have some information just saying to them you can 353 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:45,120 call the town and appeal or question your val the value and they're they're 354 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:50,080 not happy with the response that they get either. So they I think if there was 355 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:53,120 some assistance in how does how do they arrive at the numbers? They don't come 356 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:57,840 and walk through my house. They don't knock on my door. That that kind of 357 00:32:55,039 --> 00:33:01,120 thing. Um that would be helpful. >> Thank you. 358 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,919 » So do you mean having wild rules come to the presentation? 359 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:07,679 » No, I think wild rules coming to council at a future date, but I think had 360 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:14,480 information at the budget openhouse around assessments would be helpful. 361 00:33:11,919 --> 00:33:18,240 » When were they here last director? a couple years. 362 00:33:15,679 --> 00:33:19,679 » I They were here recently. >> I thought they were here with new 363 00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:22,640 counsel. >> They were 364 00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:25,200 very early >> generally. They probably came. Yeah. 365 00:33:24,399 --> 00:33:28,200 » Yeah. >> Yeah. 366 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,760 » Mhm. Council >> Yeah. Mayor Barkley. Um we we were 367 00:33:32,159 --> 00:33:39,039 having the same conversations, councelor Wang and I, with um certain people or 368 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:42,240 certain individuals. And I think this we talked about the staffing side of 369 00:33:40,399 --> 00:33:47,039 things. I think there's a lot of people that have lived here for, you know, 370 00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:51,600 years and years and years and they think it's, you know, 1986 still. And I think 371 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:55,679 that the data and the information will help uh clarify that cuz when I look at 372 00:33:54,159 --> 00:33:59,600 the numbers, I don't think it's exponential where we have our staffing. 373 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:03,679 And I think we staff appropriately overall the last number of years that 374 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:09,440 I've sit around the table. But as the assessment piece um that did come up in 375 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:14,079 the discussion and it's it's always um how do you you know how do you explain 376 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:18,960 it properly to people and uh it's easy to look at the numbers um is the couple 377 00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:23,440 that we are talking to are saying they've gone around and checked out all 378 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:28,480 the houses and you know the areas and I think it's it will help us when we're 379 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:33,280 having that framing that discussion. So, but on the staffing level, I'm I am 380 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:41,119 confident with it, but it's it's good to have it uh readily available. Thanks. 381 00:34:37,919 --> 00:34:46,159 » Okay. Thank you. All right. Anything else? If not, we'll 382 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:49,599 just have a motion to approve the CAO report, please. 383 00:34:48,399 --> 00:34:54,960 Councilman Keller, >> Mayor Barkley, I'll make that motion. 384 00:34:51,359 --> 00:35:00,040 » All right. All in favor? Carried. Okay. Okay, we'll move on to the council 385 00:34:56,639 --> 00:35:00,040 action control. 386 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:05,160 Any questions about anything on here? 387 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:12,160 If not, we'll just have a motion to accept council action control as 388 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,680 information. Councelor Hill, >> I'll make a motion that we accept the 389 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:21,599 council action control as information. >> Okay. Thank you. All in favor? Carried. 390 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:26,000 All right. We'll move into 5.1 with director Kennedy. 391 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:31,599 Thanks, Mayor Barkley. So, yeah, in front of you a report coming back to you 392 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:36,800 just in regards to a review of the 42nd Street and 52nd a intersection. Um, 393 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:40,800 during the review, we also identified an opportunity here to uh include an 394 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:46,880 inventory of our playgrounds, school zones, as well as an assessment on our 395 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:52,000 traffic signal um that we we look out on an annual basis. Anyway, 396 00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:55,839 uh part of the review, so we came up with four options. So really one one 397 00:35:54,320 --> 00:36:02,160 option is to increase pedestrian crossing time which we did move forward 398 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:09,040 with increasing it by 5 seconds to 15 um which has improved that a lot of time to 399 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:15,200 get across the intersection at 52nd a option two uh we are are looking at 400 00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:22,880 uh changing the existing school zone on 52nd a to a playground zone. Uh this 401 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:27,359 would change uh would then give some consistency to the other roadways that 402 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:34,160 surround the school uh as they are all uh operated as playground zones as well. 403 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:39,839 Existing cost uh would be within our existing budget for that. Option three, 404 00:36:37,839 --> 00:36:44,880 uh we looked at upgrading that traffic signal at that intersection. Um this 405 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:49,520 would include increasing the timing flexibility during peak hours. Uh 406 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:55,599 changing the intersection to a camerabased monitoring uh which gives us 407 00:36:51,920 --> 00:37:00,640 again more operational ability. Uh we'd look at look at adding an 408 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:05,280 additional left turn lane uh arrow for the eastbound traffic on 42nd Street as 409 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:10,720 well as replacing all the existing signage heads to LED inserts. that cost 410 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:16,800 uh for that just that one intersection upgrade would be in that $50,000 range. 411 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:22,400 Uh we did look at the additional uh intersections that we have for traffic 412 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:30,560 lights. So along 50th Street, 40 at 44th A, 49th A, and 50th A. Um this would 413 00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:36,800 include upgrades to LED lights, uh which hasn't happened in a while. Therefore, 414 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:41,520 that cost was roughly $30,000. Um those two projects we'd look at 415 00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:47,599 bringing into our capital uh budgeting deliberations uh for further discussion. 416 00:37:45,359 --> 00:37:51,920 Um then we looked at the playground zone uh throughout town. Actually we have 22 417 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:58,720 playground zone signs uh all varying with con um variety not 418 00:37:57,119 --> 00:38:03,359 being consistent throughout the community. To improve this, uh, we did 419 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:08,480 look at recommending replacing these signs with an updated version, as well 420 00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:15,119 as adding a additional signage for playground zone hours for clarity, um, 421 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:19,520 making it 7:30 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Additional or estimated cost for this 422 00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:26,760 would be in that $1,000 range, which we're recommending doing, um, as part of 423 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,760 our operating project next year. 424 00:38:27,359 --> 00:38:35,280 So, we are recommending uh op proceeding with option two um as well as proceeding 425 00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:38,440 with the replacement of playground signs in 2027 426 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:45,680 and then bringing in further discussion for option three for the intersection uh 427 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:50,800 light upgrades. So, we'll take any discussion. 428 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:53,680 » Right. Thank you, Director Kennedy. So, do the lights have LEDs now or 429 00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:57,200 » they're not. >> They're not. Okay. I wasn't sure whether 430 00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:02,079 you meant replacing or >> No, okay. Yeah. Okay. All right. So, 431 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:07,400 I'll have uh somebody please make the recommended motion and then we will open 432 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,400 it up for discussion. 433 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:13,280 » Councilor High Stand. >> I'll make that motion that council 434 00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:18,160 direct administration to proceed with conversion of the school zone on 52nd 435 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:25,440 Avenue between 42nd Street and 47th Street to playground zone in 2026. 436 00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:28,960 » Okay. Thank you. Um, anybody have any comments about that? 437 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:35,839 » I get comments about uh I think it's that left-hand turn uh 42nd. I think 438 00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:40,800 that's the in the 52nd there. How with the broom you guys are confident with 439 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:44,079 that is, >> you know, you're talking about the to 440 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,720 upgrade the intersection. >> Yeah, the integration. 441 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:51,440 » It would just be a light signal. So, it wouldn't be adding a light. 442 00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:55,119 » Okay. Okay. That's what I was thinking. >> Okay. All right. All right. Thank you. I 443 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:59,520 was like, where how the heck could that happen? So, no, I appreciate that. 444 00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:03,359 » Okay, councelor Wing. >> Thank you, Mayor Barkley. Um, and 445 00:40:01,359 --> 00:40:07,440 through to Director Kennedy. When we talked about this the last time, we just 446 00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:11,920 we briefly touched on well, we touched on the fact that the playground or the 447 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:18,320 playground zone doesn't extend all the way past the ball diamonds on 52nd. And 448 00:40:15,839 --> 00:40:22,079 we know that the speed on 52nd is becoming more and more of an issue. So, 449 00:40:19,839 --> 00:40:26,880 I I wonder why we wouldn't consider extending the playground zone all the 450 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:30,640 way to just short of 40th Street to incorporate all of the green space. 451 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:35,760 There's kids running back and forth from the what used to be Max across to the or 452 00:40:33,599 --> 00:40:39,359 the ball diamonds, whatever. And it I just think that perhaps then that might 453 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:42,960 help slow people down in general on 52nd. 454 00:40:41,359 --> 00:40:48,800 » Uh we could heavily look at that as further um review. Well, I guess when 455 00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:53,359 when uh director Leath comes back, we can look at a further. 456 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:58,560 » Okay. Thank you, Council Hill. >> Yes. I I think that since we've had this 457 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:04,640 brought up, obviously, it was a worthy topic to have the time and resources put 458 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:10,319 into this. Um, as far as the $1,000 cost for the signs and and it being proposed 459 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:15,760 in the 2027, is there any way I understand it's finding capacity, but 460 00:41:12,319 --> 00:41:19,599 what would have to happen? uh outside of the budgetary expense of the thousand 461 00:41:17,839 --> 00:41:25,760 dollars to be able to implement the new signs. Um obviously I know that time is 462 00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:30,079 not free and we can't always just free up staff like that, but is there any way 463 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:36,560 it could be done prior to 2027 since we've already have the need for it and 464 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:41,040 the cost is is uh I feel acceptable. >> Um councelor Hill, we we could look at 465 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:46,079 trying to include it in this year's but it is done down to resources. uh our 466 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:50,480 team teams get into their fall kind of program here to get going on. Um 467 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:54,880 replacing signage is just as one more thing. So that's why we were looking at 468 00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:58,960 putting it into our 2027 tasks. >> Okay. 469 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:03,200 » Okay. Council Keller or Councelor Russell, anything? 470 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:09,280 » Thank you, Mayor Barkley. I I would just like to comment on uh Councelor Wing's 471 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:14,400 uh comment about extending that down 52nd to about just before 40th Street 472 00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:22,119 there. That makes a lot of sense to me because of the traffic issues we have 473 00:42:17,359 --> 00:42:22,119 that start just past the lights there. 474 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:29,760 » Councelor Het did have his light on. He's been so polite to everyone else. 475 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:33,200 » I thought we'd try to go around him again. How's that? 476 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:36,640 » I tried. appreciate that comment. >> No, I I agree with a lot of the 477 00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:40,720 comments. I do like the consistency in the signs cuz I know some of them it's 478 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:44,720 sunrise to sunset. Well, what is that? When is that? You know, and uh when 479 00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:48,160 schools are in session, well, which school is and isn't in session? Creates 480 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:54,000 confusion. So, I do like the consistency. I agree with counselor um 481 00:42:51,839 --> 00:43:00,560 Hill about the $1,000. If we could get it done sooner, it would be great. But 482 00:42:55,599 --> 00:43:04,319 if it is more of a um resource issue rather than the money issue, I I get 483 00:43:02,319 --> 00:43:09,839 that as well. But I'd like to see it as soon as we could do that. And I do like 484 00:43:07,359 --> 00:43:14,560 uh councelor Wing's suggestion of of getting director Lee's involvement and 485 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:18,800 seeing should we maybe extend that down to the end of the ball diamonds because 486 00:43:15,839 --> 00:43:23,839 that is a busy area for kids moving back and forth and uh I see it all the time 487 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:29,359 when I bike through there the amount of pedestrian traffic happening. So 488 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:34,640 » yeah, it's interesting. Well, I live down there so as does council Keller and 489 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:39,839 drive that road a lot. Um, so I'm not a huge fan of turning the playground zone 490 00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:45,119 in or the school zone into a playground zone. Uh, I'll give you my reasons why. 491 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:49,119 The the street is wide. Um, on 51st, there's houses that front that street. 492 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:54,319 There's the community entrances or the front door entrances to two schools. On 493 00:43:51,920 --> 00:44:00,000 52nd, the entrances to the schools are well off that street. And so after say 494 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:04,480 4:30, 5:00, there's not much happening along there. like even after school 495 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:09,119 activities are taking place on 51st Avenue for the most part or people are 496 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:14,319 driving into the parking lot and then I think of all of July and August there's 497 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:19,599 nothing but also if you go further down by the the Circle K store of course and 498 00:44:16,319 --> 00:44:24,240 that ball diamond I there is um lights for the the crosswalk there flashing 499 00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:29,599 lights but it it is pretty busy um to to me all along that the big deal has been 500 00:44:25,839 --> 00:44:35,119 the the intersection at at 42nd and 52nd uh just the congestion there twice a day 501 00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:38,640 during school hours. But um you know I guess to provide consistency if we're 502 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:42,720 going to bring Director Le in to see about extending the rest of it, it 503 00:44:40,319 --> 00:44:47,960 wouldn't make sense to have school zone, playground zone. That that would really 504 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,960 confuse people. So 505 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:54,079 Council Heist. >> Yeah. No, I uh I was just going to say I 506 00:44:52,400 --> 00:45:01,920 agree with uh councelor Hill and the $1,000 and bumping it up 2026 507 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:07,839 as to uh councelor Wing's comment about the playground zone down to 40th. Um I'm 508 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:12,640 just referring back to a conversation we had. Um councelor Hill, correct me if 509 00:45:10,319 --> 00:45:19,280 I'm wrong. You looked at the whole area as a campus to to make it safer for 510 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:22,640 everybody. So, I'm good with us making sure that we're uh doing our due 511 00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:27,440 diligence and working with Director Leath on, you know, if we extend the 512 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:32,319 that playground zone, but I think this is a really good opportunity for us to 513 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:35,720 to improve some of the safety in our community. Thanks. 514 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,920 » See you back. >> So, the council to put you back where 515 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:43,760 you're at. So, we have a motion on the table as per the recommended motion. 516 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:49,680 We're hearing some feedback to direct administration to consider or to explore 517 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:54,720 moving the playground zone from 42nd Street to 40th Street or around that 518 00:45:51,839 --> 00:45:58,640 area. Um with so that if that's council's wishes, then I'd recommend 519 00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:03,680 moving into an amendment um to direct administration accordingly. 520 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:09,680 » Yep, for sure. Okay. So, we'll have an amendment to the um to the motion then 521 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:15,200 please to add the playground zone extending to 522 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:17,839 » 40th y street or almost yeah to the end of 40th 523 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:23,680 » council Russell >> is is the amendment to um request 524 00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:26,640 administration to bring back more information regarding that or make that 525 00:46:25,359 --> 00:46:33,200 switch right now I think it's to bring back more information right now we just 526 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:38,400 be approving the school zone conversion Right. But in addition to that also 527 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,960 bring us back information about possibly extending. 528 00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:44,160 » We should have two different motions in >> I think maybe it should. Yeah. 529 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,839 » Yeah. >> Yeah. Two motions. One is original 530 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:52,240 motion which you'll deal with um later. But the one right now is if you want is 531 00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:57,920 if there's a motion on it that can be presented be to amend the current motion 532 00:46:54,880 --> 00:47:02,160 or to have an amending motion to proceed with the conversion of a school zone on 533 00:46:59,359 --> 00:47:05,839 52nd Avenue between 42nd and 40th Street. 534 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:09,359 » So yeah, I was going to ask Becca like what I mean council can decide to do 535 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:14,000 that. We don't need to have a a report come back from director Lee. So that's 536 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:19,319 what we wish to do and >> so or 537 00:47:15,359 --> 00:47:19,319 » I think Mayor Barkley is 538 00:47:19,359 --> 00:47:25,119 » that's for the director stating hey I want the director of protective services 539 00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:27,359 eyes on this okay >> recommendation. 540 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,000 » Okay. All right. We'll have two different how about we have two 541 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,720 different motions and we'll keep it clean. So we we'll have the the first 542 00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:38,000 motion >> uh 52nd and 42nd playground 543 00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:43,280 » and then we'll have another motion to direct administration. Okay. So, who 544 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:49,200 wants to make the first counselor? >> So, councelor already made the first 545 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:52,319 wasn't listening to him. Sorry. Kidding. 546 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:56,079 » Okay. All in favor? >> Kind of. Couldn't remember this. Okay. 547 00:47:54,560 --> 00:48:00,960 And then we'll have another motion, please, to um direct administration to 548 00:47:58,319 --> 00:48:03,760 bring back a report on extending that playground zone to 40th Street. 549 00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:07,599 Counselor Hill. >> I would make that said motion. 550 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:13,400 » Okay. Thank you. Any discussion? All in favor? Carried. And then the third 551 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,400 motion, 552 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,920 » councelor Russell. >> Thanks, Mayor Eric. I move that council 553 00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:24,640 direct administration to include funding for traffic signal upgrades, LED traffic 554 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:27,680 light conversions, and playground signage improvements in the 2027 budget 555 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:33,040 process. >> Right. Thank you. All in favor? Okay. 556 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:37,839 Carried. All right. And we'll move into 2027 557 00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:43,359 budget priorities 6.1 with Director Vickers. Thank you, Mayor Barkley. Um, 558 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:46,640 so we've brought this report uh before council to just kind of begin the 559 00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:51,520 discussion around the priorities for the 2027 budget uh and also to kind of put 560 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:55,359 in front of you guys budget deliberation dates and start thinking about getting 561 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:59,760 those booked just cuz we know how hard it can be to get everyone in the room at 562 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:03,200 the same time. Um so the uh report today brings together the strategic the 563 00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:07,440 strategic plan that council previously um had passed, our draft corporate plan 564 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:11,599 that's kind of brand new before council today and our updated tenure capital uh 565 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:15,680 plan and it's kind of just the starting point uh for the development of the 566 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:20,160 budget. Um so earlier this year, as I said, um council adopted the strategic 567 00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:24,400 plan and identified four uh pillars that were that will guide the town's work 568 00:49:21,839 --> 00:49:28,880 over your four-year term. Um within those four pillars, council did identify 569 00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:33,920 three goals. um for particular attention during the 2026 and 2027 year. Uh and 570 00:49:31,839 --> 00:49:38,400 those were increase housing options that are diverse, affordable, and accessible, 571 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:42,400 increase recreation and wellness opportunities, and develop a clear 572 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:46,160 approach to the town's role in land development. So, the draft corporate 573 00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:49,280 plan kind of takes those priorities and identifies the work administration is 574 00:49:47,839 --> 00:49:52,400 proposing over the next kind of several years. And the 10-year capital plan 575 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,920 provides the longerterm look at infrastructure, facilities, fleet, and 576 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:59,200 other capital requirements. And these documents are intended to kind of work 577 00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:04,880 together and provide the framework that administration is using to present uh 578 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:08,160 budget 2027 to council. Um so let's talk about budget 579 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:12,079 deliberations too. So each year we do like to look at um three full days of 580 00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:17,359 budget deliberations typically in that third week in November. Um so for 2026 581 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:21,440 um this year it would be the 17th to the 20th of November. 582 00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:27,599 Um and in in advance of budget deliberations, we always tend to um um 583 00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:31,839 look at some organizations that through our budget we actually bequeef money out 584 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:35,839 to specifically the public library and the historical village. Um they can come 585 00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:39,520 in advance so not during budget deliberations but just prior to and 586 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:42,960 that's the moment that they can talk to council about their budget request, 587 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:46,400 their ask for what they're looking for the next year. So we're I want to take 588 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:51,440 this opportunity to ask is there any other organizations that you would like 589 00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:55,680 us to invite with the purposes to hear some kind of budget request. So not not 590 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:59,040 an organization that we just want to hear what they're doing. That can happen 591 00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:03,760 anytime. But these would have a very specific ask for them to come to council 592 00:51:02,319 --> 00:51:07,119 with whatever budget request they're wanting. So typically we like the 593 00:51:05,119 --> 00:51:11,200 library to present to us how much money they need for the next year, what their 594 00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:16,960 request of the town is that we then can discuss within our budget. 595 00:51:14,319 --> 00:51:22,720 Mayor Barkley, uh, this might be out out of turn, but, um, is there is there a 596 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:27,760 term of an agreement we have with the Lions Club in the in the campground? Is 597 00:51:25,839 --> 00:51:32,400 that something that we might is that still all good? 598 00:51:30,319 --> 00:51:36,079 » So, wonder do you know what does >> because that's a subsidized piece the 599 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:39,440 town is involved in? >> Yeah, the count agreement expires in 600 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:43,599 December this year. >> Okay. So, so potentially having them in 601 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:48,400 this year would be appropriate. >> We can we can add 602 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:51,280 » I just I just kind of Yeah. Thank you. >> Perfect. We'll add that to the list. 603 00:51:49,839 --> 00:51:55,599 Yeah. Is there anyone else like that kind of kind of group that you'd like to 604 00:51:53,839 --> 00:52:00,680 see? If not, we can add some later. It's it's 605 00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,680 no big deal. But 606 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:12,400 okay. So we have attached the updated uh 10-year capital plan and currently it's 607 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:19,280 identifying uh $20.7 million in capital expenditures from 2027 to 2029. So 608 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:26,000 approximately 3.88 million in 2027, 5 million in 2028. And then you can see 609 00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:31,599 a large jump of 11.84 million in 2029. That does um hold the um the arena 610 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:35,200 project that's sitting in our 10-year capital uh capital plan. You will see 611 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:40,480 later in this project that we are looking to do an arena feasibility study 612 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:46,079 um later next year and that will kind of identify finalize the arena project kind 613 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:52,800 of identify what it looks like. Yes, >> director Vickers. Yes, recreation. Um, I 614 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:59,280 do not want personally am concerned about making a step into recreation 615 00:52:56,319 --> 00:53:04,440 facilities without Red Dear County being involved because um 616 00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:12,000 when we look at the record agreement and uh what's required in there for us to 617 00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:18,319 keep them apprised of the needs in this community when we look what's happened 618 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:23,680 with the ICF and then um I I think it's really important that uh 619 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:27,480 we make sure that we're not getting ahead of ourselves 620 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:35,440 and I I would also like us to think about and I'm sure you already do but 621 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:41,040 that there's you know grant programs that come and go and um I have reached 622 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:45,359 out to Blaine Caukins office to have them send some information about the 623 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:50,240 announcement a couple of weeks ago but how do we align or can we even align 624 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:55,440 we need to do or some of the work we need to do with grants and and you know 625 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:59,520 what what is shovel ready mean? Do we have to have a design in place? I always 626 00:53:57,839 --> 00:54:03,200 felt that the Dodd's Lake work that we did that was we did that partly because 627 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:08,160 so we would have something ready to go if an opportunity came up but are we 628 00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:11,520 missing out on things because well we'd like to do this or we're going to do 629 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:16,880 this but it doesn't fit here here and here and uh I think of infrastructure 630 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:21,839 water wastewater there was you know federal provincial announcement two 631 00:54:18,559 --> 00:54:25,599 weeks ago on on that and what does it take to qualify what does it take to 632 00:54:23,359 --> 00:54:29,040 qualify with the government of Alberta's water wastewater facilities I know we've 633 00:54:27,599 --> 00:54:33,520 tried in the past and we haven't been successful, you know, because it I don't 634 00:54:31,599 --> 00:54:40,040 know doesn't quite fit, right, Director Kennedy? And and so I I really like 635 00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:40,040 administration to 636 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:44,880 I guess do a lot makes it sound like you're not doing the work. I know you're 637 00:54:43,119 --> 00:54:51,280 doing the work, but but I would like us to um kind of have that information come 638 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:54,800 forward to see where we can align our priorities with what kind of grant 639 00:54:53,040 --> 00:55:01,119 funding is available, if that's even possible. and maybe it's not 640 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:05,079 we can absolutely explore what that could look like. Um 641 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:13,440 and like this is all preliminary numbers and and everything is just 642 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:16,480 » so the tenure capital report that's really where all our building condition 643 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,960 assessments and when we've done all that stuff and from the state of 644 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:23,280 infrastructure that's kind of where that's pushing us is to kind of invest 645 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:26,079 invest those dollars in and that's where the arena project is. that's sitting 646 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:30,079 from those building condition assessments that there is that large 647 00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:33,920 large project. So, we do need to really iron that out and see about what that is 648 00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:38,079 and really kind of create that shovel ready uh ready project so that if there 649 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:41,839 is a potential grant, we are ready to apply for that. Yeah, I just don't think 650 00:55:40,319 --> 00:55:45,839 it's fair to the residents of our community and our business owners that 651 00:55:43,359 --> 00:55:50,799 they are bearing the burden of the recreation facilities 652 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:55,040 and the library. >> You know, and I I look at the um you 653 00:55:52,799 --> 00:55:59,799 know, we'll get to the the letter in our correspondence, but 654 00:55:56,799 --> 00:55:59,799 » Yes. 655 00:56:02,319 --> 00:56:09,680 » Okay. >> Yeah. Mayor Barkley. Um just in regards 656 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:14,319 to that um with the expenditures and further work with the county, I guess I 657 00:56:12,559 --> 00:56:19,280 agree with you wholeheartedly. I think that uh there's a lot lot more work that 658 00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:24,799 needs to be done um with that partnership and that work with them. do 659 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:29,359 do we want to have those meetings more regularly like you know like that's I 660 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:32,799 think there's an opportunity with that and making sure that there's more 661 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:38,559 structured meetings with the county and and as we're coming up to 2029 662 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:44,000 um because there's a lot of work to do on this one. So I I agree with you but I 663 00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:48,319 I just wanted to know what your expectations were of us as counselors as 664 00:56:46,559 --> 00:56:51,440 well as the administration. Yeah, it would be the ICF committee that that 665 00:56:49,839 --> 00:56:56,960 would do that and that would be dependent upon the two administrations 666 00:56:53,280 --> 00:57:01,440 to to um we we have a project and you know we we need to speak earlier. 667 00:56:58,720 --> 00:57:05,280 Obviously I you know you look at the the letter for for Rotary from the county. 668 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:10,160 They're saying no to the bike park but also saying it needs to go to ICF but 669 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:13,680 they're already saying no to it. So you know and and I know Rotary went to 670 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:19,760 Red Deer County. they were told you have to go through the town of Enisvale and 671 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:23,119 so when they do it's a no but the skate park didn't have to go through that 672 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:28,880 process. So I think we we're clear now that we need to use this ICF process to 673 00:57:26,079 --> 00:57:36,440 to ask for funding and uh to make sure we we do that going forward and and um 674 00:57:31,839 --> 00:57:36,440 not to to get ahead of ourselves. 675 00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:43,839 Okay. Yeah, we'll look into into that and see 676 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:47,280 what we need to do to make sure the appropriate steps are being followed, 677 00:57:45,359 --> 00:57:50,880 but we still want to make council aware of of what those numbers kind of look 678 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:54,799 like uh and what we're currently expecting right now. We do anticipate 679 00:57:52,799 --> 00:57:57,760 that arena project that is just for what's in that building condition 680 00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:02,079 assessment, not for anything new or expanded or anything like that. So that 681 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:06,079 number will definitely get redefined as as we go forward hopefully through the 682 00:58:04,559 --> 00:58:09,440 building condition assessment and whatever conversations we need to have 683 00:58:07,839 --> 00:58:13,680 with Raider County or any other committee as well. So we're we're on the 684 00:58:12,079 --> 00:58:20,160 topic of recreation with the recreation master plan. Director Jenkins is are 685 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:24,480 they involved in in any feedback in that as well? they'll be invited to like a 686 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:29,280 stakeholder meeting or whoever whether that's um on the elected side or or 687 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:33,119 administratively they'll be invited um as part of that 688 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:38,400 » outreach. Um and again sort of that feasibility study 689 00:58:35,599 --> 00:58:43,119 is the attempt to be ready for those grant opportunities. Um again that the 690 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:48,319 grant opportunities pop up and they want you to be able to justify what you're 691 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:52,799 going to do. Um, and if if we don't have that laid out, particularly with the 692 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:57,280 arena where, as Director Vickers mentioned, that's $9 million, that's 693 00:58:54,960 --> 00:59:01,200 just replacing all the things that have been identified for replacement. That's 694 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:06,799 not new dressing rooms, that's not an expansion, that's not washrooms, that's 695 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:11,440 not that's not anything. So trying to develop a project scope so that you know 696 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:15,599 even if the project's two or three years out from that study you you have it so 697 00:59:13,839 --> 00:59:19,599 when the grant comes in and says how is this project going to enrich the 698 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:23,720 community you have that information. >> Okay. No thank you for that. 699 00:59:26,079 --> 00:59:32,799 » Okay. So we'll move on. So administration uh we've also prepared an 700 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:36,160 early kind of three-year projection to give council the sense of some of the 701 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:42,160 financial pressures that are currently showing um for 2027 to 2029. So here's 702 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:46,079 kind of where we're sitting today. So you can see that the tax requirement 703 00:59:44,559 --> 00:59:52,400 current increases are kind of looking like that. So in 2027 a total increase 704 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:56,079 of 8.82 and so on and so forth. So and this is this three year projection is 705 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:59,760 kind of look at it at two parts. So the base operating budget and then new 706 00:59:57,599 --> 01:00:04,400 initiatives and funding requirements. So the first base operating budget. So this 707 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:07,200 is the estimated cost of continuing um everything that we've currently have 708 01:00:05,599 --> 01:00:11,359 now. So all the current staff, the current programs, 709 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:14,559 all any increases and decreases um they're all included in that number. 710 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:18,799 Then the second part is any new initiatives and funding. So you can see 711 01:00:16,319 --> 01:00:24,000 that in 2027 8.04% those are new initiatives. So this could be new debt 712 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:28,640 saving new like the there is still the last year of the aquatic center debt 713 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:33,440 servicing is included in that number. So that's all new news new new stuff. 714 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:36,960 So breaking the projection out that way kind of gives council a clear picture 715 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:41,200 what's changing from the existing budget and what is just standard from last 716 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:45,040 year. And again these are still preliminary figures and everything will 717 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:48,960 be continued to be refined before budget deliberations. As you can see, something 718 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:54,319 happened just before this that would now add more money into this budget that was 719 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:58,240 not put in here before. That $50,000 for um for the intersection was not was not 720 01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:02,960 in here and now we will have to add that in there. So, more things will come out 721 01:00:59,839 --> 01:01:07,200 before we get to budget deliberations. Um salary estimates will be updated for 722 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:11,680 actual staff costing and benefit costs and we'll continue still to look out 723 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:14,720 what um other municipalities are doing. Um we'll continue to update any major 724 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:19,680 external costs such as policing insurance, electricity, natural gas, um 725 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:23,359 any regional wastewater and water as well as any other information that 726 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:26,640 becomes available. So one of the significant items um is that continued 727 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:30,400 increase in funding for capital infrastructure replacement. So this kind 728 01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:35,920 of this did start in 2025 where we started with $200,000 um and then an 729 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:40,400 additional $200,000 in 2026. And we would like to continue doing that until 730 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:45,040 we hit that $2.4 $4 million gap in capital spending each year. Um, so we 731 01:01:42,559 --> 01:01:50,160 are looking to do that increase 200,000 each year. So we're looking at 627 will 732 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:54,559 be 828 and then a million dollar going into reserves in 2029. 733 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:57,760 And this is that gradual increase to kind of build up that infrastructure 734 01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:01,200 gap. So one of the things you can see there 735 01:01:59,119 --> 01:02:05,599 that the aquatic center debt servicing that final year is in there and then 736 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:09,040 once that 2027 year servicing in there we will be fully funded to make sure 737 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:13,280 we're making that full payment for that aquatic center including debt and line 738 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:17,760 of credit payment as well. Then you can see a new a new project. Um so we are 739 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:21,520 looking to do something kind of similar for the arena. We know that it's early 740 01:02:19,839 --> 01:02:25,760 in discussions um and this is kind of the first time council's kind of seen 741 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:29,760 this. But while we're looking to do that feasibility study and start planning 742 01:02:27,599 --> 01:02:34,640 what that project's going to look like, we know that likely we're going to have 743 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:38,480 some form of payment. Um we we will take every opportunity to look for every 744 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:42,079 grant and access every other form of funding we can, but we do want to be 745 01:02:40,079 --> 01:02:45,200 prepared that if if at the end of the day we still might have a portion of a 746 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:48,880 line of credit or a portion of some debt that we're starting to build some of 747 01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:52,880 that that debt equity kind of in our reserves. Um just an early thought, we 748 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:57,799 just want to make sure that it's kind of front and center. um for discussion with 749 01:02:54,799 --> 01:02:57,799 council. 750 01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:03,760 Um so and also there's some other initiatives. So in 2027 um so in 751 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:07,760 addition to any of that infrastructure and debt funding um it does include two 752 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:14,000 new positions. So one being a planner position. Um so as you guys know PCPS is 753 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:18,319 is no longer um that happened last year. We're kind of kind of trying to figure 754 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:23,359 out what that looks like. We did have a planner position on the books. It was 755 01:03:20,319 --> 01:03:27,839 removed last year. Um, and now with PCPS gone, we do need to make some choices of 756 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:31,760 what we're going to do. So, either we do need to hire a planner. If we don't hire 757 01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:35,280 a planner, there will definitely be increased costs to reach out to get some 758 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:38,720 kind of planning activities done with some kind of third party, which we don't 759 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:44,079 know what that would look like yet. Um, but this way we would have a planner um 760 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:48,079 inhouse um for about $120,000. Now, that hopefully would be all in inclusive of 761 01:03:45,839 --> 01:03:52,079 benefits. Uh and then we also have another parks operator position that 762 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:54,960 would be uh needed as well with the addition of all the new subdivisions. 763 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:58,720 Bella Vista, the new one that we're bringing on, which likely in next year 764 01:03:57,359 --> 01:04:02,960 they will have to have some activities in there plus the new industrial park. 765 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:06,480 We just they just need some more some more staff, right, to help with with all 766 01:04:04,559 --> 01:04:10,079 that work. In 2028, they have the continued 767 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:14,319 infrastructure. Uh but then they also have the downtown area redevelopment 768 01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:19,520 plan update. So you can see that in 2028 for $50,000. And then in 29, uh, we're 769 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:25,119 looking to, um, add in a human resources coordinator as well for around that 770 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:28,559 $120,000, um, dollars. So, and most 771 01:04:26,559 --> 01:04:31,839 » can I ask why an HR coordinator? Like when we have a third party 772 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:35,599 or >> just like cost, the third party is is 773 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:39,200 quite expensive. We'd be able to get more full-time hours with someone 774 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:44,480 internal. we'd still likely maybe want to keep an external person for very high 775 01:04:41,119 --> 01:04:48,960 level terminations potentially complaints like within to have a a third 776 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:52,480 party complaint system for staff to go to if there's some issues. Again, this 777 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:57,960 is all preliminary and we will we will iron these out kind of as we go through. 778 01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,960 Um 779 01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,000 okay. 780 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:08,640 Um, so any of these costs that are are are um in there, they do continue beyond 781 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:13,200 the year that they're first introduced. So any of the permanent positions or any 782 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:17,039 of the like debt contributions once they're in there, they are in there 783 01:05:14,559 --> 01:05:21,440 permanently unless it's physically reduced the next year. So if we add in 784 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:25,520 200,000 for debt servicing, when we start budget next year, it's already in 785 01:05:23,039 --> 01:05:30,000 there. Now, however, the one-time um expenses, some of those new initiatives, 786 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:34,559 those operating projects, those will go away at the end of the year. So, that 787 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:39,520 money doesn't stay in the budget year after year. Okay? And at this stage, 788 01:05:37,839 --> 01:05:42,640 none of these initiatives are approved. Uh we're just being presented to give 789 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:46,319 council an early look at kind of what we're we're thinking about um in the 790 01:05:44,319 --> 01:05:50,079 three-year projection. Council can amend them, defer them, change any of the 791 01:05:47,839 --> 01:05:54,799 timing, phase them in, consider funding, other funding sources, um or ask 792 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:58,160 administration to bring back uh different financial scenarios if you 793 01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:02,160 don't like some of these. Uh we have also begun public participation process 794 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:08,640 for 2027. We had our first public session um last week and we have started 795 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:12,559 um doing our weekly posts um online. So today, uh, administration is just 796 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:15,920 looking for council to provide any of those initial comments that you guys 797 01:06:13,839 --> 01:06:20,960 have on the direction of the priorities or timing reflected in any of the plans. 798 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:25,039 Um, anything council would like administration to look at differently 799 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:28,480 before we're doing budget deliberations. Um, 800 01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:31,200 is and and I guess yeah, any other organizations we already have identified 801 01:06:29,839 --> 01:06:36,400 at the campground that we'll we'll invite and any specific dates that that 802 01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:41,359 you guys could pick. Now, I understand that councelor Strong's not here, but um 803 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:47,599 just start thinking about some of those budget deliberation dates. 804 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:52,240 » Yeah, I I would just comment that like the the tax increases that that are 805 01:06:50,319 --> 01:06:56,079 shown in here, requirement increases based on some of this information, I 806 01:06:54,000 --> 01:07:00,640 think is is too high. I'll just put it that way. 807 01:06:58,319 --> 01:07:06,960 I I just don't think we can keep going at 8 10% 7 8 9%s every year. It's too 808 01:07:04,319 --> 01:07:11,200 much for people and I I realize I understand the other side of it and 809 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:16,880 things aren't getting done and but at the same time it's it's a lot. 810 01:07:15,359 --> 01:07:19,839 » Y councelor Russell, 811 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:25,119 » thanks Mayor Barkley. I I would echo your comments like when I saw those 812 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:29,680 numbers I my heart jumped a beat. Um but you know I do understand the rising 813 01:07:26,799 --> 01:07:32,640 costs and and what we have to do too. So you know this is just preliminary 814 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:36,960 numbers, preliminary discussion. We're going to have a lot of detailed 815 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:41,599 conversations on those three dates um in November. Um there is some data that I'd 816 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:46,240 like to have for that, but I think I'll wait and ask it at that meeting or 817 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:49,039 unless you'd want it now to prepare for it or 818 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:52,559 » the earlier we can get some of your questions so that we can gather the 819 01:07:51,039 --> 01:07:55,440 information the better because it could take us some time to gather some 820 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:58,880 anything. >> Okay. I I don't think those will take 821 01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,960 long, but I'll put it out there now. Um Oh, sorry. 822 01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:04,400 » Certainly. Welcome your feedback. Councelor Russell and all the council. 823 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:07,440 This is only the first meeting. There's going to be several meetings u up to 824 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,440 November, >> right? 825 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:13,039 » That's getting into the fine detail, but there's going to be a lot of discussion 826 01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:14,000 with you as we move along up to that date, 827 01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:17,359 » right? >> So, anytime. Yeah, please. 828 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:22,799 » So, do you want it now or want me to hold off? Okay. I I would just like to 829 01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:28,880 know I know we have roughly $15 million in debt right now, right? Between the um 830 01:08:26,239 --> 01:08:34,480 industrial park and the aquatic center. I just like to know what is the annual 831 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:42,799 interest that we pay combined on those and what that equates to in terms of a 832 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:47,600 average amount for a of my let's say my tax bill is it 250 bucks my tax bill is 833 01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:52,279 just going simply to pay interest right I just would like to know that number so 834 01:08:52,480 --> 01:08:58,480 » I would say on that note too director Vickers when you bring that or at some 835 01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:02,880 point in time you know I know we talked about the land sales, Southwest 836 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:07,839 Industrial Boing to pay off some debt and when when is that taking place and I 837 01:09:05,679 --> 01:09:11,679 know when sales close and that kind of thing, but um 838 01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:14,400 » yeah, that might look very different a year from now. 839 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:18,880 » Absolutely. So, yeah, we actually discussed debt this morning and and the 840 01:09:16,480 --> 01:09:22,640 options that that we could look at once some of these sales kind of go through 841 01:09:20,799 --> 01:09:25,440 and we have some of the money >> sitting there to actually play with, 842 01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:30,960 then we could look at at paying down some debt. Could you or director Jenkins 843 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:35,679 could you bring kind of a an overview of like the grant programs that are out 844 01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:39,679 there? Do we need to know that CO Becker or is it more of a an administration 845 01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:47,199 thing? Who like we don't need like a 20page 846 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:51,359 report but it would be nice I think just >> council has that interest or have that 847 01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:54,880 right to request that information. It's it's really up to you. 848 01:09:52,640 --> 01:10:00,480 » Okay. And then maybe even like director Kennedy, you know, explain again or have 849 01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:07,520 it in this report. Um, you know, what qualifies with, um, water, wastewater 850 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:11,640 infrastructure and and is that changing or who knows? 851 01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:21,920 » Mayor Barkley, I would make the motion if we were all in. Do we want to choose 852 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:25,920 those three dates right now? I mean, I would put out there like the 17, 18, 853 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:31,920 19th, but I don't know what's available. That's the Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. 854 01:10:27,679 --> 01:10:36,320 Um, or other if Friday works better for other counselors. It's flexible for me. 855 01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:39,920 Any of those 17 to 20. So, whatever works for people that need to rearrange 856 01:10:38,239 --> 01:10:42,640 schedules, but >> councelor Hill says as long as it 857 01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:50,000 doesn't snow, you'll be fine. >> Okay. All right. So, will no snow on the 858 01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:53,440 17th, 18th, and 19th, it'll be whatever. >> Okay. So that's a motion. Is everybody 859 01:10:51,679 --> 01:10:56,960 busy with that? >> All in favor of the motion. 860 01:10:55,679 --> 01:11:01,360 » Okay. Carry check. >> I like it. 861 01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:05,600 » Okay. Can I ask a question of of council just with respect to that that corporate 862 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:09,440 plan document? It's sort of the first time council has seen that document. 863 01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:14,080 We've probably been working on it for the better part of a year and it's 864 01:11:11,440 --> 01:11:19,920 » outdated as soon as you finish it. But if there's any sort of feedback as to 865 01:11:16,480 --> 01:11:24,080 whether it's helpful being able to have sort of that three-year outlook, those 866 01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:30,719 types of things, is the information in it of value? The intent is that it would 867 01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:36,080 be a a public facing document um that would be sort of updated every other 868 01:11:32,480 --> 01:11:41,040 year um to to go through. Okay. Yeah. No, it's very valuable. Thank you. 869 01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:44,640 Scary, but valuable. Yes, Mayor Barkerley, don't get me wrong. We we 870 01:11:42,239 --> 01:11:49,040 assumed that when you guys saw those tax um amounts, you would be Oh, that's 871 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:52,400 interesting a little bit. That's nice. >> Um and we would assume that those are 872 01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:56,560 not going to be the final numbers. Either you're going to direct us to pull 873 01:11:54,159 --> 01:12:01,280 from grants, adjust priorities, reduce other expenses. So, we knew that that's 874 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:04,159 not But this is where we're starting, right? 875 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:07,280 » Yeah. And I was also interested too seeing the assessment. you're expecting 876 01:12:06,480 --> 01:12:11,280 it to. >> So, a lot of that is new assessment and 877 01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:14,400 that is we we looked through the the houses that we currently have for sale 878 01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:16,960 and the capital buildings that we have for sale and some of that. And so, we 879 01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:20,320 kind of worked it out. It may not be exactly in those three years. We kind of 880 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:24,000 spread it out over the three years. So, it could be higher in one year and less 881 01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:28,480 and but so that is kind of amounts that we're kind of relying on with 882 01:12:26,719 --> 01:12:31,920 with the new area that we're bringing on this year too. So, over the next couple 883 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:37,520 of years on when those assessments will will realize into our as taxes. And I I 884 01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:40,960 also want us to be, you know, I realize last year we reduced the mill rate a bit 885 01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:44,400 and yet there was still a significant increase. 886 01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:48,800 » So I want us to keep that in mind because there's no sense saying we 887 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:52,880 reduced our taxes or 0% tax increase when people were getting hit with a 10% 888 01:12:50,719 --> 01:12:55,880 tax increases. That >> that's 889 01:12:57,679 --> 01:13:02,239 So council though, is there anything in here outside of the amounts? Obviously, 890 01:13:01,199 --> 01:13:06,400 that's shocking, but is there any project on here that you don't like? 891 01:13:04,719 --> 01:13:09,440 Like, do you want us to remove the arena debt servicing one for now? Is there 892 01:13:08,239 --> 01:13:13,440 something that you're not happy with? Are we kind of in the right direction, 893 01:13:10,719 --> 01:13:16,400 but we just need to finalize things? So, just some some of those comments would 894 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,880 be helpful just to make sure we're not going until November and you're like, we 895 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:22,400 don't want any of that, right? >> Yeah. No, I mean, I think you need to 896 01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:26,560 plan for the arena, but I'm just really cautious right now that um 897 01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:31,600 » we do that in the right order and and maybe maybe there's some partnership on 898 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:34,320 a cost of a Yeah. 899 01:13:32,480 --> 01:13:38,320 » And even if we were building debt capacity for the Arena project, likely I 900 01:13:36,719 --> 01:13:41,920 would recommend that we take that and put it onto the line of credit for now 901 01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:46,159 and then we'd have we're paying less debt, but at least we have capacity in 902 01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:51,560 our budget for a future debt payment. So there could be those options as well 903 01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:51,560 too, but 904 01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:57,840 and I don't like we don't know either like specifically and you'll get into 905 01:13:56,480 --> 01:14:00,239 that later what some of the capital projects are, right? seems a big ones. 906 01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:03,560 But >> yeah, 907 01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,560 » so 908 01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:08,159 » for 2027, the priority is linear infrastructure, roads, and underground, 909 01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:11,040 right? >> As always. 910 01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:14,800 » Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. 911 01:14:13,199 --> 01:14:19,640 » Yeah. You'll see the full listing of all the specific projects as as we get 912 01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,640 closer. 913 01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:25,840 » Okay. Anything else? No, we're good. Okay. 914 01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:31,840 Thank you. We've got our date selected, so that's good. So, we will move on to 915 01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:35,280 um 7.1 and the regional wreck facility inventory study. 916 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:38,400 » Thank you, Mayor Berkeley. Uh, so as council's aware, I believe this letter 917 01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:43,600 was in your correspondence a couple weeks ago, Reder County has invited um 918 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:48,719 regional municipalities to participate in the creation of a regional recreation 919 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:51,760 facility inventory, um, intended to support some of these conversations 920 01:14:50,159 --> 01:14:58,480 around recreation needs and opportunities, um, gaps and services and 921 01:14:55,120 --> 01:15:03,920 and how those decisions will be made um, in the future. Um the county is looking 922 01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:08,159 for application partners um a letter of support uh and or an indication of 923 01:15:06,159 --> 01:15:12,000 willingness to participate in data sharing um for a proposed application 924 01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:16,080 through the Alberta Community Partnerships Grant. So that's a 925 01:15:13,679 --> 01:15:22,400 government of Alberta grant um available to municipalities. Um this is sort of a 926 01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:26,320 first step that has been discussed administratively 927 01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:32,000 uh in the past as a way to start a regional conversation around um the 928 01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:36,960 wreck agreements and wreck funding. Um so we do feel that it's valuable to be a 929 01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:42,400 part of this conversation um and and be a partner uh for that 930 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:48,480 grant allows us to be involved both in the the scope development of the project 931 01:15:44,239 --> 01:15:53,600 as well as the sort of input. Um this is the type of thing even on a data sharing 932 01:15:50,239 --> 01:16:00,239 level we would share our data um for even we get uh requests even outside of 933 01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:04,320 the region to from municipalities doing um sort of rec master plans similar to 934 01:16:02,159 --> 01:16:09,520 what we're doing. Um so that that's something that we would we would do in 935 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:14,480 any type of situation likely. So, Director Jenkins, like what is the like 936 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:19,120 what what is I guess the purpose is sharing our data, which I think we do, 937 01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:22,960 but um you know, how involved would Inisville 938 01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:26,239 be? Like are we going to be at the table with this or is it going to be all Red 939 01:16:24,719 --> 01:16:30,000 Dear County doing this work and we're going to send them some information? And 940 01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:35,120 so again, they're they're looking for that project partnership. Um, we at this 941 01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:40,000 point have as much information as as this letter and I've had a brief sort of 942 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:44,400 email correspondence back and forth um on their with their administration. Um, 943 01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:51,360 again, it's going to be funding dependent whether the the project moves 944 01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:56,640 forward. Um, in in my opinion as the more involved we can be in that being 945 01:16:54,239 --> 01:17:01,040 helping with the grant application, the more we're likely to get out of the 946 01:16:58,159 --> 01:17:05,920 study. Um but again they'll be looking for data across the board about 947 01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:10,800 facilities about usage data about age of facilities all of those types of things 948 01:17:07,679 --> 01:17:17,880 to try to create a picture across the region of of what is available and where 949 01:17:13,440 --> 01:17:17,880 some of those needs are. So 950 01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:27,040 are you trying to put your light on Becker? There you go. You look like you 951 01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:33,280 were trying to put your light on. Uh if council has reservation, 952 01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:36,000 I think the deadline for submission um is October 953 01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:39,600 » for the grant >> 15th. Yeah. The county had asked for an 954 01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:41,840 indication of participation by the end of August. 955 01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:46,239 » Yeah. >> As per your question, Mayor Barkley, if 956 01:17:43,679 --> 01:17:50,960 you're if council yourself seeking more information on the scope of the project, 957 01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:53,920 outline what you're signing up for. I think that's a legitimate question. You 958 01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:58,159 can certainly pose that back to administration before moving into this 959 01:17:56,000 --> 01:18:01,760 recommended motion if that's what uh where you're leading to. 960 01:17:59,199 --> 01:18:08,080 » Yeah, it is what I'm leading to. I'd like to see more information and how we 961 01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:10,320 would be at the table. And >> councelor Russell. 962 01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:14,159 » Yeah, Mayor Burke, I'd agree. I'd like more information. I know what what is it 963 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:20,560 the outcome that Red Deer County is hoping to have out of this. Um I I I 964 01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:24,880 don't know. Is it to to not fund individual communities, but maybe look 965 01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:29,679 at, okay, the study says we only need three arenas in this area. We we've got 966 01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:35,199 six, so we're out of that game. Like, I I don't know what what the goal of this 967 01:18:32,159 --> 01:18:40,400 is, right? So, I I don't know. I'd like that information like what is the 968 01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:47,320 purpose and what is the end goal that what is the objective they're hoping to 969 01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:47,320 achieve by doing this? So, 970 01:18:47,440 --> 01:18:53,840 Councelor Hill. >> Yeah, I I do obviously see some some of 971 01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:59,280 the um hesitation and and wanting to know 972 01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:03,120 more about it. I obviously from our standpoint or my standpoint, I would say 973 01:19:01,199 --> 01:19:09,679 it would be nice for the inventory study to to identify that Inisell is 974 01:19:06,159 --> 01:19:14,880 definitely um uh you know in need of of some investment and to that we have 975 01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:20,159 seeing the needs assessment and and all our numbers that we do uh provide a 976 01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:23,600 service to um the county residents and I I think it's kind of a double-edged 977 01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:28,560 sword. It could be used against us, but it could also be used to help us as 978 01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:32,560 well. But I I do understand the the hesitation and I I would also want more 979 01:19:30,480 --> 01:19:36,640 information. But that's my understanding of it. But I guess uh it is like I said 980 01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:43,440 a double-edged sword, but hopefully it would not be sharp on our end. So 981 01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:49,199 » Mhm. I I just add to I I do see Mayor Berkeley that they've the letter is CC 982 01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:53,040 to pretty much every municipality within Red County's boundaries. Right. So I 983 01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:57,760 wouldn't want to be the only one not at the table. Um but uh cuz that could put 984 01:19:55,440 --> 01:20:01,360 us at a huge disadvantage as well. But just a bit more information, maybe 985 01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:05,600 you'll hear from other administration what other communities are thinking 986 01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:09,600 about this and I think if we bring it the next meeting, I think we still meet 987 01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:12,719 the timeline, don't we have to do to respond? 988 01:20:10,239 --> 01:20:18,239 » Yeah, councelor W. >> Um I mean I certainly share everyone's 989 01:20:15,679 --> 01:20:23,440 concern based on history and you know sort of how we're feeling right now. Um 990 01:20:21,199 --> 01:20:28,640 they're not asking us for money. they're asking us for support. Um, I think that 991 01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:33,440 we're better placed at the table with a list of all of our concerns and ensuring 992 01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:39,360 that the data that is relevant to us is being seen and heard at that table. So I 993 01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:44,080 mean we can certainly ask for for more information now officially from Redger 994 01:20:41,679 --> 01:20:47,840 County but if they need a letter by the end of if they need something by the end 995 01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:52,480 of August I mean I guess we can ask for them to give us extra time but they have 996 01:20:50,480 --> 01:20:56,719 asked us for the information by or for agreement by the end of the month. So I 997 01:20:54,880 --> 01:21:01,920 wouldn't have a problem saying let's be involved and be at the table. 998 01:20:59,679 --> 01:21:05,600 He did say October that the the application's going in. Red Dear County 999 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:09,760 has asked for indication by the end of August that the grant is due 1000 01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:13,840 » um the 15th of August. So, they would need to determine if they're starting to 1001 01:21:12,159 --> 01:21:17,600 prepare that grant application. >> And I think it's fair to to ask for more 1002 01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:25,480 information. We we have a meeting coming up in a couple of weeks and um I would 1003 01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:25,480 like to see more information and 1004 01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:33,040 kind of the purpose of I agree with councelor Russell. Mayor Berkeley, would 1005 01:21:31,440 --> 01:21:36,800 it be possible when administration talks to him saying we're going to make a 1006 01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:39,440 decision at what is our next meeting? September 8th. 1007 01:21:38,159 --> 01:21:44,320 » Yeah. >> Um that we'll make that decision. 1008 01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:48,880 » Well, what's that >> to council? That's our dialogue we're 1009 01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:53,440 having council based on your motion of counseling your first meetings. Uh you 1010 01:21:51,280 --> 01:22:01,360 wouldn't be meeting until the 15th of September. Um so which is basically 3 1011 01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:04,560 weeks away. It's pretty significant time gap, 1012 01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:07,280 » but isn't our first our AMP meetings are the first Monday of each month. So that 1013 01:22:06,480 --> 01:22:09,920 would be >> September 8th. 1014 01:22:08,239 --> 01:22:12,320 » September 8th. Yeah. >> But 1015 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:14,560 » we can't give you direction at that meeting. 1016 01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:18,080 » We don't have >> We don't have that. 1017 01:22:15,199 --> 01:22:21,600 » We don't have an AMP meeting that day. >> It's a regular one. 1018 01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:27,120 » No, cuz you just canled your first meeting. 1019 01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:32,320 the the second we cancelled the first not the third A&P of them. 1020 01:22:29,440 --> 01:22:36,880 » So you're meeting on the 15th 20 whatever and then the end of 1021 01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:41,760 September that's your meeting schedule. >> Yeah. 1022 01:22:39,199 --> 01:22:45,120 » I council >> I think if they need it by the 30th 1023 01:22:43,440 --> 01:22:49,199 maybe we should make a decision today then about whether we provide that. We 1024 01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:54,120 can always we're not committing any money like councelor Wing said right. 1025 01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:54,120 So, 1026 01:22:54,320 --> 01:23:00,000 » well, maybe we can do both. We can commit, but also ask them for more 1027 01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:02,960 information because I I think we we need that 1028 01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:08,320 » for sure. >> Mayor Barkley, um, speaking to this, I'd 1029 01:23:05,679 --> 01:23:13,440 like to see us commit to the letter and then follow up with the the ask because 1030 01:23:11,199 --> 01:23:18,400 all we're doing here is is they've invited us to the table. Um, sometimes I 1031 01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:21,440 always say it's better to be in the room versus looking through the window into 1032 01:23:20,239 --> 01:23:28,679 the room. >> Uh, so I uh I would move in that 1033 01:23:24,239 --> 01:23:28,679 direction or support the direction. 1034 01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:38,000 » I will. Mayor Barkley, I would move that council commit to being a project 1035 01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:41,600 partner with Renter County for the purpose of an Alberta community 1036 01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:47,360 partnership grant application for the completion of a regional recreation 1037 01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:52,480 facility inventory study. And we also would like administration to 1038 01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:56,880 bring back more information on the scope of this project 1039 01:23:55,520 --> 01:24:00,480 » or you don't you don't want to see more information? 1040 01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:04,960 » I can well I can't imagine saying no to being involved quite honestly. So in 1041 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:09,840 more information or not, but if if having more information provided to us 1042 01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:13,600 in advance of the application is good for if that's what council wants, I'm 1043 01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:16,840 fine with that. So we can certainly add that in. 1044 01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:20,760 Okay. All in favor. 1045 01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:27,000 All right. We'll move into 8.1 correspondence and information. 1046 01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:40,840 Okay. Next, 1047 01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:52,800 um this um I would again look want more information 1048 01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:58,239 on what this means for Inennisville. Maybe we could have um drive come in and 1049 01:24:55,360 --> 01:25:01,840 do a presentation to us or you could administration could bring back some 1050 01:24:59,679 --> 01:25:06,560 more information. Do you want a motion on that? Um CO Becker. 1051 01:25:04,719 --> 01:25:12,400 » Okay. Um Okay. I I will make a motion then 1052 01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:17,199 that we um administration invites Red Dear Drive to to come in and 1053 01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:21,199 do a presentation to us about their new economic development 1054 01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:25,719 body and how they see Inisville fitting. 1055 01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:32,440 Any comments? All in favor? Okay. 1056 01:25:33,679 --> 01:25:43,040 And RCMP stats. Um, anybody have any questions about that? 1057 01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:48,800 And then we have MPC minutes. So, we'll just have a motion to accept the 1058 01:25:44,719 --> 01:25:51,040 correspondence as information, please. >> Council Hill. 1059 01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:54,320 » Mayor Barkley, I would make that motion that we expect accept the correspondence 1060 01:25:53,600 --> 01:26:00,159 information. >> Perfect. Thank you. Okay. All in favor? 1061 01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:03,520 Carried. All right. We'll do council reports next. So, we'll begin with 1062 01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:06,560 councelor Hill. >> Member Barkley. I did not submit of uh 1063 01:26:06,239 --> 01:26:10,239 uh >> we know 1064 01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:14,639 » as you can tell uh nothing nothing to report. 1065 01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:18,480 » Okay. Thank you. Councelor Wing, >> my report is in the package. Um Mayor 1066 01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:24,159 Barkley, I don't have anything to add. >> Okay. Thank you, Councelor McCeller. 1067 01:26:22,159 --> 01:26:26,719 » Mayor Berkeley, my information is in the package as well and no further 1068 01:26:25,679 --> 01:26:31,920 information to add. >> Okay. Thanks, Councelor Russell. 1069 01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:36,480 » Thanks, Mayor Berkeley. my uh reporters there. But I would like to say that I've 1070 01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:40,880 seen the lights along um Main Street have been put up. Now that it's getting 1071 01:26:38,639 --> 01:26:45,520 dark before my bedtime, I might be able to see them at night as well. So I 1072 01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:49,239 appreciate that. >> And councelor Heisad. 1073 01:26:49,679 --> 01:26:56,480 » Yeah. Uh, Mayor Barkley, I just the only comment I'd have, uh, I went to the 1074 01:26:54,400 --> 01:27:02,080 government of Alberta data center consultation in Lome and also went to 1075 01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:07,520 the one NDP data center consultation. It was interesting, right, seeing both 1076 01:27:04,239 --> 01:27:11,760 sides and it's a hot topic. So, I chose to go to both of those to learn more 1077 01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:15,920 about what was going on in the province and potentially in the future. So, just 1078 01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:22,960 wanted to bring that up as a highlight. and uh lots of it's you know an awkward 1079 01:27:20,639 --> 01:27:26,880 topic but I think there's there's ways to do it in the right way in our 1080 01:27:24,719 --> 01:27:31,040 province and it takes a lot of consultation and work on all parties so 1081 01:27:29,679 --> 01:27:37,600 thanks >> okay thanks and I don't have anything 1082 01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:41,760 further um did go see the um corn roast at the historical village on Saturday 1083 01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:47,360 and then the lantern festival which was really lovely in the evening uh former 1084 01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:51,360 counselor Bates's grandson was playing at the Lantern Festival, which was 1085 01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:57,360 great. So, it was a a really good evening. 1086 01:27:53,360 --> 01:28:03,920 Okay, we'll um move into upcoming events. 1087 01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:11,159 And the wastewater meeting that was originally for August 21st has been 1088 01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:11,159 switched to September 14th. 1089 01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:17,520 And we'll just have a motion, please, to accept the upcoming events as 1090 01:28:14,719 --> 01:28:20,320 information. Councelor McCller, 1091 01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:25,440 » Mayor Barkley, I'll make that motion. >> Awesome. Thank you. All in favor. Okay. 1092 01:28:23,199 --> 01:28:29,040 Carried. And then we'll have a motion to go in camera. 1093 01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:35,800 Councelor, >> I'll make the motion to go on camera. 1094 01:28:30,639 --> 01:28:35,800 » Thank you. All in favor? Carried.