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>> There she is.
And take a moment
[12:40] >> There she is.
And take a moment
all right. Good.
[12:41] And take a moment
all right. Good.
>> Good morning. And welcome
[12:44] all right. Good.
>> Good morning. And welcome
to the workshop on the
[12:45] >> Good morning. And welcome
to the workshop on the
five-year financial forecast.
[12:48] to the workshop on the
five-year financial forecast.
It is August 12th 2025 at
[12:48] five-year financial forecast.
It is August 12th 2025 at
09:00AM to get started this
[12:51] It is August 12th 2025 at
09:00AM to get started this
morning.
[12:52] 09:00AM to get started this
morning.
Commissioner can are would you
[12:54] morning.
Commissioner can are would you
like to lead us in the
[12:55] Commissioner can are would you
like to lead us in the
indication? And Commissioner
[12:56] like to lead us in the
indication? And Commissioner
Fay again, could you lead us in
[12:56] indication? And Commissioner
Fay again, could you lead us in
the pledge if you could please
[12:59] Fay again, could you lead us in
the pledge if you could please
rise?
[13:04] the pledge if you could please
rise?
>> You’re only father. We come
[13:05] rise?
>> You’re only father. We come
to her this morning again.
[13:07] >> You’re only father. We come
to her this morning again.
So thankful for the many
[13:09] to her this morning again.
So thankful for the many
blessings are laws, Lord, we
[13:09] So thankful for the many
blessings are laws, Lord, we
pray. We pray for those who
[13:12] blessings are laws, Lord, we
pray. We pray for those who
are struggling today. We prayed
[13:13] pray. We pray for those who
are struggling today. We prayed
that they would feel the
[13:15] are struggling today. We prayed
that they would feel the
comfort of your embrace for
[13:16] that they would feel the
comfort of your embrace for
that. You would be with us here
[13:18] comfort of your embrace for
that. You would be with us here
today as we go about the
[13:18] that. You would be with us here
today as we go about the
county’s business wrote the
[13:23] today as we go about the
county’s business wrote the
day. For that should not give
[13:24] county’s business wrote the
day. For that should not give
us the right words to use to
[13:28] day. For that should not give
us the right words to use to
communicate our message is
[13:28] us the right words to use to
communicate our message is
Lord, we pray that you give us
[13:31] communicate our message is
Lord, we pray that you give us
open ears and mind to listen
[13:31] Lord, we pray that you give us
open ears and mind to listen
to the viewpoints of others on
[13:34] open ears and mind to listen
to the viewpoints of others on
the board as well as out in the
[13:34] to the viewpoints of others on
the board as well as out in the
public will be giving their
[13:38] the board as well as out in the
public will be giving their
input as well. I pray Lord most
[13:40] public will be giving their
input as well. I pray Lord most
well to look over a look over
[13:40] input as well. I pray Lord most
well to look over a look over
first responders both here in
[13:44] well to look over a look over
first responders both here in
the far bring them back home
[13:44] first responders both here in
the far bring them back home
safely each and every day in
[13:45] the far bring them back home
safely each and every day in
Jesus name. We pray. Amen.
[13:48] safely each and every day in
Jesus name. We pray. Amen.
Amen.
[13:51] Jesus name. We pray. Amen.
Amen.
>> I pledge allegiance to the
[13:53] Amen.
>> I pledge allegiance to the
flag. The United States of
[13:55] >> I pledge allegiance to the
flag. The United States of
America. As to the Republic
[13:58] flag. The United States of
America. As to the Republic
for which it stands. One nation
[14:00] America. As to the Republic
for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with
[14:01] for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with
liberty and justice for all.
[14:08] under God, indivisible, with
liberty and justice for all.
Madam clerk, the roll call,
[14:11] liberty and justice for all.
Madam clerk, the roll call,
please.
[14:13] Madam clerk, the roll call,
please.
>> This is a public workshop
[14:14] please.
>> This is a public workshop
of the Citrus County Board of
[14:16] >> This is a public workshop
of the Citrus County Board of
County Commissioners, this 12
[14:19] of the Citrus County Board of
County Commissioners, this 12
day of August 2025. in a
[14:20] County Commissioners, this 12
day of August 2025. in a
tenants are Chair. Rebecca
[14:23] day of August 2025. in a
tenants are Chair. Rebecca
Bay’s first chair Diana
[14:24] tenants are Chair. Rebecca
Bay’s first chair Diana
Finnegan, second Vice Chair
[14:26] Bay’s first chair Diana
Finnegan, second Vice Chair
Janet Barrack. Commissioner
[14:30] Finnegan, second Vice Chair
Janet Barrack. Commissioner
Jeff Canard, Commissioner
[14:31] Janet Barrack. Commissioner
Jeff Canard, Commissioner
holiday. This county
[14:32] Jeff Canard, Commissioner
holiday. This county
commissioner. Sorry County
[14:34] holiday. This county
commissioner. Sorry County
Administrator Steve Howard and
[14:35] commissioner. Sorry County
Administrator Steve Howard and
county attorney to Nace a dime
[14:40] Administrator Steve Howard and
county attorney to Nace a dime
in London. Thank you very much.
[14:41] county attorney to Nace a dime
in London. Thank you very much.
This morning, we’re going to
[14:44] in London. Thank you very much.
This morning, we’re going to
be joined by PMF a consulting
[14:45] This morning, we’re going to
be joined by PMF a consulting
group.
[14:46] be joined by PMF a consulting
group.
>> That is going to do the
[14:48] group.
>> That is going to do the
presentation on the five-year
[14:49] >> That is going to do the
presentation on the five-year
financial forecast. Welcome.
[14:52] presentation on the five-year
financial forecast. Welcome.
Good morning.
[14:54] financial forecast. Welcome.
Good morning.
>> Thank you all so much for
[14:54] Good morning.
>> Thank you all so much for
having me. It’s a pleasure to
[14:56] >> Thank you all so much for
having me. It’s a pleasure to
be here with all this morning.
[14:58] having me. It’s a pleasure to
be here with all this morning.
My name is Daniel Scott Parker.
[15:01] be here with all this morning.
My name is Daniel Scott Parker.
I’m a director at Pfm and very
[15:02] My name is Daniel Scott Parker.
I’m a director at Pfm and very
excited to share with you all
[15:04] I’m a director at Pfm and very
excited to share with you all
the results of the 5 year
[15:05] excited to share with you all
the results of the 5 year
forecast. We’ve been working
[15:07] the results of the 5 year
forecast. We’ve been working
with the county over a number
[15:08] forecast. We’ve been working
with the county over a number
of months and it’s been a
[15:09] with the county over a number
of months and it’s been a
pleasure working with the
[15:10] of months and it’s been a
pleasure working with the
entire county teen. So I’ll
[15:12] pleasure working with the
entire county teen. So I’ll
jump right into the
[15:12] entire county teen. So I’ll
jump right into the
presentation and hopefully have
[15:15] jump right into the
presentation and hopefully have
had some time for questions.
[15:16] presentation and hopefully have
had some time for questions.
BFM, you like your Lall likely
[15:19] had some time for questions.
BFM, you like your Lall likely
familiar with them, get them
[15:20] BFM, you like your Lall likely
familiar with them, get them
serves as the county’s
[15:21] familiar with them, get them
serves as the county’s
financial adviser myself and
[15:24] serves as the county’s
financial adviser myself and
my on Jews in a moment are with
[15:25] financial adviser myself and
my on Jews in a moment are with
the consulting practice that
[15:26] my on Jews in a moment are with
the consulting practice that
really focuses on the school
[15:29] the consulting practice that
really focuses on the school
planning and budgeting
[15:30] really focuses on the school
planning and budgeting
multi-year financial planning.
[15:32] planning and budgeting
multi-year financial planning.
I’m based in New Orleans.
[15:34] multi-year financial planning.
I’m based in New Orleans.
But we have offices across the
[15:34] I’m based in New Orleans.
But we have offices across the
country, including our local
[15:37] But we have offices across the
country, including our local
offices here in the state,
[15:38] country, including our local
offices here in the state,
Orlando and Miami. And this
[15:40] offices here in the state,
Orlando and Miami. And this
really provides us. The
[15:41] Orlando and Miami. And this
really provides us. The
president said do what we need
[15:42] really provides us. The
president said do what we need
to do in order to bring you
[15:44] president said do what we need
to do in order to bring you
all budget solutions that are
[15:46] to do in order to bring you
all budget solutions that are
tied in true time tested and
[15:48] all budget solutions that are
tied in true time tested and
true to solving every one of
[15:50] tied in true time tested and
true to solving every one of
your various complex problems.
[15:52] true to solving every one of
your various complex problems.
We are part of the different
[15:55] your various complex problems.
We are part of the different
groups consulting practice
[15:55] We are part of the different
groups consulting practice
really focus on issues of
[15:58] groups consulting practice
really focus on issues of
management and budget that
[16:00] really focus on issues of
management and budget that
includes looking at ways to
[16:02] management and budget that
includes looking at ways to
improve government efficiency
[16:02] includes looking at ways to
improve government efficiency
looking at day-to-day
[16:04] improve government efficiency
looking at day-to-day
operations. But ultimately we
[16:05] looking at day-to-day
operations. But ultimately we
are also the leader in
[16:07] operations. But ultimately we
are also the leader in
providing multi-year financial
[16:08] are also the leader in
providing multi-year financial
planning to local governments
[16:09] providing multi-year financial
planning to local governments
across the country in the last
[16:11] planning to local governments
across the country in the last
10 years. We’ve got about 50
[16:13] across the country in the last
10 years. We’ve got about 50
financial plans, another 20 for
[16:14] 10 years. We’ve got about 50
financial plans, another 20 for
school districts across the
[16:15] financial plans, another 20 for
school districts across the
country. So it’s a pleasure to
[16:17] school districts across the
country. So it’s a pleasure to
be working with you all.
[16:18] country. So it’s a pleasure to
be working with you all.
I’m joined by my colleague,
[16:20] be working with you all.
I’m joined by my colleague,
Iowa to somebody who’s been
[16:22] I’m joined by my colleague,
Iowa to somebody who’s been
excellent and helping to really
[16:22] Iowa to somebody who’s been
excellent and helping to really
pull together the forecast and
[16:25] excellent and helping to really
pull together the forecast and
the model that hopefully of
[16:26] pull together the forecast and
the model that hopefully of
time for rain will be able to
[16:26] the model that hopefully of
time for rain will be able to
share a little sneak peek with
[16:28] time for rain will be able to
share a little sneak peek with
you all. But that ultimately
[16:30] share a little sneak peek with
you all. But that ultimately
will be delivering and passing
[16:33] you all. But that ultimately
will be delivering and passing
on to the county staff. So R
[16:34] will be delivering and passing
on to the county staff. So R
work began. We’re start to
[16:36] on to the county staff. So R
work began. We’re start to
contract in March this year
[16:37] work began. We’re start to
contract in March this year
to develop a multi-year
[16:39] contract in March this year
to develop a multi-year
financial forecast for the
[16:40] to develop a multi-year
financial forecast for the
county. So as a part of this,
[16:43] financial forecast for the
county. So as a part of this,
we assess the county’s
[16:44] county. So as a part of this,
we assess the county’s
historical general fund
[16:45] we assess the county’s
historical general fund
revenues and expenditures to
[16:46] historical general fund
revenues and expenditures to
understand the drivers of your
[16:47] revenues and expenditures to
understand the drivers of your
financial protection pull
[16:50] understand the drivers of your
financial protection pull
together. The model, the
[16:51] financial protection pull
together. The model, the
forecasts itself is really
[16:52] together. The model, the
forecasts itself is really
focused on the below items
[16:55] forecasts itself is really
focused on the below items
highlighted on the screen,
[16:56] focused on the below items
highlighted on the screen,
forecasting or financial
[16:57] highlighted on the screen,
forecasting or financial
trajectory over the next 5
[16:59] forecasting or financial
trajectory over the next 5
years, analyzing some key
[17:01] trajectory over the next 5
years, analyzing some key
demographic economic budgetary
[17:03] years, analyzing some key
demographic economic budgetary
trends that impact your
[17:06] demographic economic budgetary
trends that impact your
finances, it and providing
[17:06] trends that impact your
finances, it and providing
recommendations on some best
[17:07] finances, it and providing
recommendations on some best
practices around financial and
[17:09] recommendations on some best
practices around financial and
budget management and fiscal
[17:11] practices around financial and
budget management and fiscal
policy. So as I said at the
[17:13] budget management and fiscal
policy. So as I said at the
end, not only do we have a much
[17:14] policy. So as I said at the
end, not only do we have a much
fuller report in the one that
[17:15] end, not only do we have a much
fuller report in the one that
I’m going to share with you all
[17:17] fuller report in the one that
I’m going to share with you all
this morning that we share that
[17:19] I’m going to share with you all
this morning that we share that
really outlines how the model
[17:21] this morning that we share that
really outlines how the model
works. All of the assumptions,
[17:21] really outlines how the model
works. All of the assumptions,
the key drivers, things to keep
[17:25] works. All of the assumptions,
the key drivers, things to keep
in mind and also shares.
[17:25] the key drivers, things to keep
in mind and also shares.
We’re going to be sharing and
[17:27] in mind and also shares.
We’re going to be sharing and
training the staff on the
[17:28] We’re going to be sharing and
training the staff on the
actual tool, which is at Excela
[17:31] training the staff on the
actual tool, which is at Excela
based financial model that you
[17:31] actual tool, which is at Excela
based financial model that you
will be able to update on a
[17:34] based financial model that you
will be able to update on a
regular basis. So then now you
[17:34] will be able to update on a
regular basis. So then now you
are able to consistently see a
[17:36] regular basis. So then now you
are able to consistently see a
5 year outlook from your annual
[17:39] are able to consistently see a
5 year outlook from your annual
budget.
[17:41] 5 year outlook from your annual
budget.
So this morning, all share a
[17:42] budget.
So this morning, all share a
little bit about the forecast.
[17:44] So this morning, all share a
little bit about the forecast.
Talk about some of the
[17:45] little bit about the forecast.
Talk about some of the
assumptions and talk a little
[17:46] Talk about some of the
assumptions and talk a little
bit about some of our findings
[17:46] assumptions and talk a little
bit about some of our findings
and items to keep in mind for a
[17:49] bit about some of our findings
and items to keep in mind for a
path forward. As you all know,
[17:52] and items to keep in mind for a
path forward. As you all know,
procure this work, a multi-year
[17:53] path forward. As you all know,
procure this work, a multi-year
financial forecast really
[17:55] procure this work, a multi-year
financial forecast really
offers a diagnosis of your
[17:56] financial forecast really
offers a diagnosis of your
finances. It’s considered a
[18:00] offers a diagnosis of your
finances. It’s considered a
best practice by S p Fitch as
[18:01] finances. It’s considered a
best practice by S p Fitch as
well as in the forecast that we
[18:02] best practice by S p Fitch as
well as in the forecast that we
provide is in a dynamic easy to
[18:05] well as in the forecast that we
provide is in a dynamic easy to
update multi-year excelled base
[18:06] provide is in a dynamic easy to
update multi-year excelled base
model and it helps to sort of
[18:09] update multi-year excelled base
model and it helps to sort of
reflect it what the county’s
[18:09] model and it helps to sort of
reflect it what the county’s
directory if you maintain the
[18:11] reflect it what the county’s
directory if you maintain the
status quo. So if you consider
[18:12] directory if you maintain the
status quo. So if you consider
yourself taking your hands off
[18:15] status quo. So if you consider
yourself taking your hands off
of the wheel over the next 5
[18:18] yourself taking your hands off
of the wheel over the next 5
years, making no major changes.
[18:20] of the wheel over the next 5
years, making no major changes.
What with the financial
[18:22] years, making no major changes.
What with the financial
position of the county look
[18:24] What with the financial
position of the county look
like? So when we’re creating
[18:25] position of the county look
like? So when we’re creating
this forecast, we go all the
[18:25] like? So when we’re creating
this forecast, we go all the
way down to the line item level
[18:28] this forecast, we go all the
way down to the line item level
of detail. We worked with
[18:31] way down to the line item level
of detail. We worked with
county staff to understand the
[18:33] of detail. We worked with
county staff to understand the
nuances of not only your
[18:35] county staff to understand the
nuances of not only your
financial policies, your
[18:37] nuances of not only your
financial policies, your
structure, your financial data,
[18:38] financial policies, your
structure, your financial data,
and then we apply growth rates
[18:40] structure, your financial data,
and then we apply growth rates
associated with those major
[18:41] and then we apply growth rates
associated with those major
categories that helps to build
[18:43] associated with those major
categories that helps to build
out the actual forecast itself.
[18:45] categories that helps to build
out the actual forecast itself.
The forecast is built on the
[18:48] out the actual forecast itself.
The forecast is built on the
fy 25 adopt a budget and then
[18:49] The forecast is built on the
fy 25 adopt a budget and then
applies growth rates of those
[18:51] fy 25 adopt a budget and then
applies growth rates of those
project of years. And of
[18:52] applies growth rates of those
project of years. And of
course, assuming no corrective
[18:53] project of years. And of
course, assuming no corrective
action, which we’ll talk a
[18:54] course, assuming no corrective
action, which we’ll talk a
little bit about in the second.
[18:55] action, which we’ll talk a
little bit about in the second.
It shows what the financial
[18:56] little bit about in the second.
It shows what the financial
forecast of the county would
[19:00] It shows what the financial
forecast of the county would
be. For the model we make sure
[19:01] forecast of the county would
be. For the model we make sure
to really integrate in your
[19:03] be. For the model we make sure
to really integrate in your
key elements. The models
[19:04] to really integrate in your
key elements. The models
primarily focused on the
[19:05] key elements. The models
primarily focused on the
general fund, but does have
[19:07] primarily focused on the
general fund, but does have
the ability to consider the
[19:08] general fund, but does have
the ability to consider the
impact of some of your other
[19:11] the ability to consider the
impact of some of your other
major funding streams that are
[19:12] impact of some of your other
major funding streams that are
incorporated as you all conduct
[19:15] major funding streams that are
incorporated as you all conduct
your business.
[19:16] incorporated as you all conduct
your business.
It skews me and incorporates
[19:18] your business.
It skews me and incorporates
you’re as crazy Reserve policy
[19:19] It skews me and incorporates
you’re as crazy Reserve policy
and that policy is incorporated
[19:22] you’re as crazy Reserve policy
and that policy is incorporated
into the model. So within the
[19:23] and that policy is incorporated
into the model. So within the
baseline itself, which I’ll
[19:25] into the model. So within the
baseline itself, which I’ll
show you in just a couple of
[19:27] baseline itself, which I’ll
show you in just a couple of
slides, it’s projected to have
[19:29] show you in just a couple of
slides, it’s projected to have
a consistent 15% of total
[19:30] slides, it’s projected to have
a consistent 15% of total
operating expenditures, which
[19:34] a consistent 15% of total
operating expenditures, which
is about 54 days.
[19:36] operating expenditures, which
is about 54 days.
Approximately. And then your
[19:37] is about 54 days.
Approximately. And then your
Reserve fund Budget Budget Fund
[19:37] Approximately. And then your
Reserve fund Budget Budget Fund
balance. Excuse me, ranges from
[19:41] Reserve fund Budget Budget Fund
balance. Excuse me, ranges from
about 22.3. 26.7 million over
[19:43] balance. Excuse me, ranges from
about 22.3. 26.7 million over
the course of the rejection
[19:45] about 22.3. 26.7 million over
the course of the rejection
within the projection itself.
[19:48] the course of the rejection
within the projection itself.
There are various options from
[19:48] within the projection itself.
There are various options from
modeling. What differences in
[19:49] There are various options from
modeling. What differences in
your reserve fund balance
[19:52] modeling. What differences in
your reserve fund balance
levels. Look like so if the
[19:53] your reserve fund balance
levels. Look like so if the
county moved to an 8 or wanted
[19:55] levels. Look like so if the
county moved to an 8 or wanted
to go up to the 17, the to
[19:57] county moved to an 8 or wanted
to go up to the 17, the to
balance of your ranges in your
[19:58] to go up to the 17, the to
balance of your ranges in your
policy. There’s a mechanism to
[20:00] balance of your ranges in your
policy. There’s a mechanism to
turn those switches on and off
[20:00] policy. There’s a mechanism to
turn those switches on and off
to see what the fiscal impact
[20:04] turn those switches on and off
to see what the fiscal impact
looks like over time.
[20:06] to see what the fiscal impact
looks like over time.
But we talked a little bit
[20:06] looks like over time.
But we talked a little bit
about the basin project itself.
[20:09] But we talked a little bit
about the basin project itself.
So
[20:12] about the basin project itself.
So
baseline it takes into account
[20:13] So
baseline it takes into account
your historical data from Fy
[20:15] baseline it takes into account
your historical data from Fy
2019 Fy 2024.
[20:17] your historical data from Fy
2019 Fy 2024.
>> And then projects out to
[20:21] 2019 Fy 2024.
>> And then projects out to
from Fy. 26 to Fy 2030. You’ll
[20:22] >> And then projects out to
from Fy. 26 to Fy 2030. You’ll
see when we get to the baseline
[20:24] from Fy. 26 to Fy 2030. You’ll
see when we get to the baseline
slide in just a second that
[20:26] see when we get to the baseline
slide in just a second that
it’ll show your surplus
[20:26] slide in just a second that
it’ll show your surplus
deficit, which is representing
[20:28] it’ll show your surplus
deficit, which is representing
county’s total revenues last
[20:30] deficit, which is representing
county’s total revenues last
year. Expenditures. And then
[20:31] county’s total revenues last
year. Expenditures. And then
your county’s ending fund
[20:33] year. Expenditures. And then
your county’s ending fund
balance as represented and this
[20:36] your county’s ending fund
balance as represented and this
fund balance includes also
[20:36] balance as represented and this
fund balance includes also
elements of your strict ID
[20:39] fund balance includes also
elements of your strict ID
funds as well. Within these
[20:40] elements of your strict ID
funds as well. Within these
figures and calculations.
[20:40] funds as well. Within these
figures and calculations.
We also incorporate your carry
[20:44] figures and calculations.
We also incorporate your carry
out, which is the one that
[20:46] We also incorporate your carry
out, which is the one that
fiscal year’s revenues exceed
[20:48] out, which is the one that
fiscal year’s revenues exceed
this school year expenditures
[20:49] fiscal year’s revenues exceed
this school year expenditures
that availability Carryforward
[20:51] this school year expenditures
that availability Carryforward
is also incorporated over time.
[20:52] that availability Carryforward
is also incorporated over time.
And we’ll talk a little bit
[20:53] is also incorporated over time.
And we’ll talk a little bit
about how that Carryforward is.
[20:58] And we’ll talk a little bit
about how that Carryforward is.
Over. Times begins to decline
[21:00] about how that Carryforward is.
Over. Times begins to decline
because of the sort of
[21:01] Over. Times begins to decline
because of the sort of
structural nuances of your
[21:04] because of the sort of
structural nuances of your
budget. So so this is the such
[21:06] structural nuances of your
budget. So so this is the such
as counties 5, your baseline
[21:07] budget. So so this is the such
as counties 5, your baseline
projection, the forecast, as
[21:08] as counties 5, your baseline
projection, the forecast, as
I said, is protected from Fy.
[21:12] projection, the forecast, as
I said, is protected from Fy.
26 to Fy 30, the Blue Bar is
[21:14] I said, is protected from Fy.
26 to Fy 30, the Blue Bar is
your ending fund inclusive l
[21:16] 26 to Fy 30, the Blue Bar is
your ending fund inclusive l
all of your restrictive
[21:18] your ending fund inclusive l
all of your restrictive
reserves for the general fund
[21:18] all of your restrictive
reserves for the general fund
and then the Ghraib are is your
[21:20] reserves for the general fund
and then the Ghraib are is your
surplus deficit. So you’ll see
[21:24] and then the Ghraib are is your
surplus deficit. So you’ll see
that and projected years.
[21:27] surplus deficit. So you’ll see
that and projected years.
Fy 26 through Fy 28. You have
[21:30] that and projected years.
Fy 26 through Fy 28. You have
a surplus, but still a
[21:31] Fy 26 through Fy 28. You have
a surplus, but still a
declining surplus in the outer
[21:32] a surplus, but still a
declining surplus in the outer
years of the forecast starting
[21:35] declining surplus in the outer
years of the forecast starting
in Fy 29 to 30, you start to
[21:36] years of the forecast starting
in Fy 29 to 30, you start to
see that surplus would go down
[21:39] in Fy 29 to 30, you start to
see that surplus would go down
into a deficit.
[21:41] see that surplus would go down
into a deficit.
Because the county chooses the
[21:42] into a deficit.
Because the county chooses the
required fund balance every
[21:44] Because the county chooses the
required fund balance every
year. It is possible that to
[21:46] required fund balance every
year. It is possible that to
implement fiscal policy
[21:47] year. It is possible that to
implement fiscal policy
decisions to avoid the year in
[21:49] implement fiscal policy
decisions to avoid the year in
deficits. In Fy 29. And that’s
[21:52] decisions to avoid the year in
deficits. In Fy 29. And that’s
why 29.30.
[21:54] deficits. In Fy 29. And that’s
why 29.30.
Some of the key drivers of
[21:58] why 29.30.
Some of the key drivers of
Model S using include I’m
[22:00] Some of the key drivers of
Model S using include I’m
focusing on, we assume or 6%
[22:03] Model S using include I’m
focusing on, we assume or 6%
projected growth in your ad.
[22:06] focusing on, we assume or 6%
projected growth in your ad.
Valorem taxes, 2% in sales and
[22:09] projected growth in your ad.
Valorem taxes, 2% in sales and
then we’re also assuming a 4%
[22:11] Valorem taxes, 2% in sales and
then we’re also assuming a 4%
protected compound annual
[22:14] then we’re also assuming a 4%
protected compound annual
growth rate annually for
[22:14] protected compound annual
growth rate annually for
personal services relating to
[22:16] growth rate annually for
personal services relating to
the Sheriff general operating
[22:17] personal services relating to
the Sheriff general operating
and then around another 4% for
[22:20] the Sheriff general operating
and then around another 4% for
non elected official personnel.
[22:21] and then around another 4% for
non elected official personnel.
We assume a 9% projected growth
[22:24] non elected official personnel.
We assume a 9% projected growth
in your retirement
[22:26] We assume a 9% projected growth
in your retirement
contributions. And then another
[22:26] in your retirement
contributions. And then another
10% growth in your detention
[22:29] contributions. And then another
10% growth in your detention
facility. Contract. And about a
[22:32] 10% growth in your detention
facility. Contract. And about a
2%, 2 and a half percent growth
[22:33] facility. Contract. And about a
2%, 2 and a half percent growth
for your capital outlay lines.
[22:34] 2%, 2 and a half percent growth
for your capital outlay lines.
And these are sort of
[22:35] for your capital outlay lines.
And these are sort of
highlighted because they are
[22:38] And these are sort of
highlighted because they are
the major components of your
[22:40] highlighted because they are
the major components of your
budget that are really driving
[22:42] the major components of your
budget that are really driving
your ability to have these the
[22:45] budget that are really driving
your ability to have these the
projection over time. So a
[22:45] your ability to have these the
projection over time. So a
little bit of just about your
[22:48] projection over time. So a
little bit of just about your
baseline.
[22:49] little bit of just about your
baseline.
>> You’ll see here that
[22:53] baseline.
>> You’ll see here that
generally you have a the growth
[22:55] >> You’ll see here that
generally you have a the growth
in your taxes is really the
[22:55] generally you have a the growth
in your taxes is really the
driver on the revenue side of
[22:58] in your taxes is really the
driver on the revenue side of
your growth. You’ll see that
[23:01] driver on the revenue side of
your growth. You’ll see that
5.5 total revenue percent
[23:02] your growth. You’ll see that
5.5 total revenue percent
growth versus the 4 and a half
[23:04] 5.5 total revenue percent
growth versus the 4 and a half
percent total expenditures.
[23:05] growth versus the 4 and a half
percent total expenditures.
And this is important to see.
[23:08] percent total expenditures.
And this is important to see.
But it is a lot can be a little
[23:10] And this is important to see.
But it is a lot can be a little
misleading because the
[23:11] But it is a lot can be a little
misleading because the
carryforward amount really does
[23:13] misleading because the
carryforward amount really does
operate a major portion of your
[23:15] carryforward amount really does
operate a major portion of your
base and how this city how the
[23:17] operate a major portion of your
base and how this city how the
county considers and monitors
[23:20] base and how this city how the
county considers and monitors
their expenditures. And is able
[23:21] county considers and monitors
their expenditures. And is able
to pay for their expenditures
[23:23] their expenditures. And is able
to pay for their expenditures
over day-to-day basis. So any
[23:26] to pay for their expenditures
over day-to-day basis. So any
scenario that exhaust that
[23:27] over day-to-day basis. So any
scenario that exhaust that
carryforward puts the county
[23:28] scenario that exhaust that
carryforward puts the county
reserves and of challenging
[23:30] carryforward puts the county
reserves and of challenging
fiscal position within 2 to
[23:33] reserves and of challenging
fiscal position within 2 to
3 fiscal years. And this is
[23:36] fiscal position within 2 to
3 fiscal years. And this is
recognize here. So right now
[23:37] 3 fiscal years. And this is
recognize here. So right now
we’re showing the total percent
[23:39] recognize here. So right now
we’re showing the total percent
of your total sort of revenue
[23:41] we’re showing the total percent
of your total sort of revenue
base to the class is sure
[23:44] of your total sort of revenue
base to the class is sure
Commissioner Frank and open
[23:45] base to the class is sure
Commissioner Frank and open
>> Sorry for the interruption,
[23:46] Commissioner Frank and open
>> Sorry for the interruption,
sir, about waiting. And then I
[23:48] >> Sorry for the interruption,
sir, about waiting. And then I
noticed all of the pages that
[23:50] sir, about waiting. And then I
noticed all of the pages that
we have to go in and I were
[23:51] noticed all of the pages that
we have to go in and I were
going to get so last week.
[23:52] we have to go in and I were
going to get so last week.
I we have a big yes. I think
[23:53] going to get so last week.
I we have a big yes. I think
you all have the full 75 pager.
[23:56] I we have a big yes. I think
you all have the full 75 pager.
They haven’t. 25 slide. So
[23:58] you all have the full 75 pager.
They haven’t. 25 slide. So
we’re we’re. We’re gonna keep
[23:58] They haven’t. 25 slide. So
we’re we’re. We’re gonna keep
it short and sweet. But yes,
[24:00] we’re we’re. We’re gonna keep
it short and sweet. But yes,
please. I love your question.
[24:01] it short and sweet. But yes,
please. I love your question.
If I’m a couple slides back
[24:04] please. I love your question.
If I’m a couple slides back
on the five-year baseline
[24:05] If I’m a couple slides back
on the five-year baseline
projection. I was trying to
[24:07] on the five-year baseline
projection. I was trying to
take out the answer as he went
[24:09] projection. I was trying to
take out the answer as he went
on. But why do you feel like
[24:13] take out the answer as he went
on. But why do you feel like
it looks like revenues go up,
[24:16] on. But why do you feel like
it looks like revenues go up,
which is expected being has
[24:17] it looks like revenues go up,
which is expected being has
house fires got more. People
[24:17] which is expected being has
house fires got more. People
are moving here. Absolutely.
[24:20] house fires got more. People
are moving here. Absolutely.
I can understand if you are
[24:22] are moving here. Absolutely.
I can understand if you are
saying you see the population
[24:25] I can understand if you are
saying you see the population
staying flat, why would the
[24:27] saying you see the population
staying flat, why would the
why would our revenues go down?
[24:30] staying flat, why would the
why would our revenues go down?
And 29 30, what? What brought
[24:31] why would our revenues go down?
And 29 30, what? What brought
you to that projection? Got it.
[24:34] And 29 30, what? What brought
you to that projection? Got it.
So it’s it’s actually not
[24:35] you to that projection? Got it.
So it’s it’s actually not
revenues going down its your
[24:35] So it’s it’s actually not
revenues going down its your
carryforward going down the
[24:39] revenues going down its your
carryforward going down the
that the ability.
[24:40] carryforward going down the
that the ability.
>> That gray bar includes not
[24:43] that the ability.
>> That gray bar includes not
only your revenues
[24:44] >> That gray bar includes not
only your revenues
expenditures, but also in Italy
[24:45] only your revenues
expenditures, but also in Italy
in the annual carryforward him
[24:47] expenditures, but also in Italy
in the annual carryforward him
out. As you have that
[24:47] in the annual carryforward him
out. As you have that
carryforward, it starts off
[24:51] out. As you have that
carryforward, it starts off
very strong. I think close to
[24:53] carryforward, it starts off
very strong. I think close to
20 give you the exact number.
[24:55] very strong. I think close to
20 give you the exact number.
27. Yeah, I think it’s close
[24:59] 20 give you the exact number.
27. Yeah, I think it’s close
to 27 Million. 40 minutes or
[25:01] 27. Yeah, I think it’s close
to 27 Million. 40 minutes or
skis. A 40.5 billion in Fy 25
[25:02] to 27 Million. 40 minutes or
skis. A 40.5 billion in Fy 25
that provides us strong base to
[25:06] skis. A 40.5 billion in Fy 25
that provides us strong base to
start from over time going into
[25:09] that provides us strong base to
start from over time going into
fy. 26 drops down to
[25:10] start from over time going into
fy. 26 drops down to
27 Million. Then to 19 million,
[25:13] fy. 26 drops down to
27 Million. Then to 19 million,
10 to 11 2028. by
[25:16] 27 Million. Then to 19 million,
10 to 11 2028. by
Twenty-thirty. It’s at 1.7
[25:17] 10 to 11 2028. by
Twenty-thirty. It’s at 1.7
million. So that decline in
[25:18] Twenty-thirty. It’s at 1.7
million. So that decline in
the availability of that
[25:20] million. So that decline in
the availability of that
Carryforward is really what’s
[25:22] the availability of that
Carryforward is really what’s
driving partially. It’s the
[25:23] Carryforward is really what’s
driving partially. It’s the
extending growth of your
[25:25] driving partially. It’s the
extending growth of your
expenditures and then the that
[25:27] extending growth of your
expenditures and then the that
decline in the carryforward
[25:28] expenditures and then the that
decline in the carryforward
about that’s available. Tat’s
[25:30] decline in the carryforward
about that’s available. Tat’s
cushioning the the surplus
[25:33] about that’s available. Tat’s
cushioning the the surplus
here.
[25:33] cushioning the the surplus
here.
>> And why do you think that’s
[25:37] here.
>> And why do you think that’s
going to go down?
[25:38] >> And why do you think that’s
going to go down?
Because of the extending growth
[25:40] going to go down?
Because of the extending growth
in here? And actually let me
[25:40] Because of the extending growth
in here? And actually let me
Popovic’s. I think this will
[25:43] in here? And actually let me
Popovic’s. I think this will
help. So your carryforward
[25:45] Popovic’s. I think this will
help. So your carryforward
makes up. 22 1% of your total
[25:51] help. So your carryforward
makes up. 22 1% of your total
revenue base in Fy 25 your
[25:51] makes up. 22 1% of your total
revenue base in Fy 25 your
budget. You’ve been you’ve been
[25:52] revenue base in Fy 25 your
budget. You’ve been you’ve been
balancing your budget,
[25:54] budget. You’ve been you’ve been
balancing your budget,
particularly using that
[25:55] balancing your budget,
particularly using that
carryforward without the
[25:58] particularly using that
carryforward without the
carryforward. It declines your
[26:01] carryforward without the
carryforward. It declines your
total tax faces 90%. And so
[26:02] carryforward. It declines your
total tax faces 90%. And so
your reliance on that
[26:06] total tax faces 90%. And so
your reliance on that
carryforward is I think a risk
[26:08] your reliance on that
carryforward is I think a risk
as a part of how you all are
[26:10] carryforward is I think a risk
as a part of how you all are
managing your expenditures
[26:13] as a part of how you all are
managing your expenditures
itself are not exceeding your
[26:13] managing your expenditures
itself are not exceeding your
are your current revenues
[26:15] itself are not exceeding your
are your current revenues
without the carryforward are
[26:18] are your current revenues
without the carryforward are
not able to keep pace with your
[26:19] without the carryforward are
not able to keep pace with your
expenditures. What you’re able
[26:20] not able to keep pace with your
expenditures. What you’re able
to keep that pace with the
[26:21] expenditures. What you’re able
to keep that pace with the
Kerry for going forward?
[26:25] to keep that pace with the
Kerry for going forward?
Well, that I guess I don’t
[26:26] Kerry for going forward?
Well, that I guess I don’t
quickly grew because we have to
[26:29] Well, that I guess I don’t
quickly grew because we have to
have a reserve budget for
[26:30] quickly grew because we have to
have a reserve budget for
emergencies or so. We need to
[26:32] have a reserve budget for
emergencies or so. We need to
have a large carryforward and
[26:33] emergencies or so. We need to
have a large carryforward and
when nothing happens. Thank
[26:35] have a large carryforward and
when nothing happens. Thank
you, Lord.
[26:37] when nothing happens. Thank
you, Lord.
>> It has to be carried
[26:38] you, Lord.
>> It has to be carried
forward. I know you see that
[26:41] >> It has to be carried
forward. I know you see that
as a risk. But to me that.
[26:42] forward. I know you see that
as a risk. But to me that.
>> That seems prudent now.
[26:43] as a risk. But to me that.
>> That seems prudent now.
So you’re maintaining your
[26:43] >> That seems prudent now.
So you’re maintaining your
reserve levels, which is why
[26:46] So you’re maintaining your
reserve levels, which is why
the Blue bar.
[26:49] reserve levels, which is why
the Blue bar.
>> In the prior slide continues
[26:50] the Blue bar.
>> In the prior slide continues
over time. You still having a
[26:53] >> In the prior slide continues
over time. You still having a
healthy reserve, but you’re
[26:54] over time. You still having a
healthy reserve, but you’re
using because the carryforward
[26:56] healthy reserve, but you’re
using because the carryforward
is used as an operating funding
[26:58] using because the carryforward
is used as an operating funding
mechanism as you’re operating
[27:00] is used as an operating funding
mechanism as you’re operating
expenses, grow over time.
[27:01] mechanism as you’re operating
expenses, grow over time.
That carryforward again, if you
[27:02] expenses, grow over time.
That carryforward again, if you
took your hands off the wheel
[27:04] That carryforward again, if you
took your hands off the wheel
and or not changing posse of
[27:05] took your hands off the wheel
and or not changing posse of
changing your practices on a
[27:07] and or not changing posse of
changing your practices on a
year to year basis and are
[27:08] changing your practices on a
year to year basis and are
letting story of the
[27:09] year to year basis and are
letting story of the
projections do their thing.
[27:11] letting story of the
projections do their thing.
This is actually the outlook
[27:12] projections do their thing.
This is actually the outlook
that you would see you would
[27:14] This is actually the outlook
that you would see you would
spend down that carry forward
[27:15] that you would see you would
spend down that carry forward
at a faster rate than you
[27:17] spend down that carry forward
at a faster rate than you
probably otherwise would have
[27:18] at a faster rate than you
probably otherwise would have
as you’re making annual
[27:20] probably otherwise would have
as you’re making annual
spending decisions.
[27:23] as you’re making annual
spending decisions.
>> So you’re just assuming that
[27:25] spending decisions.
>> So you’re just assuming that
we’re going to be spending more
[27:26] >> So you’re just assuming that
we’re going to be spending more
in the growth isn’t keeping up
[27:27] we’re going to be spending more
in the growth isn’t keeping up
with it. So then we’re going to
[27:30] in the growth isn’t keeping up
with it. So then we’re going to
start dipping into our
[27:31] with it. So then we’re going to
start dipping into our
carryforward. Yes. So you’re
[27:32] start dipping into our
carryforward. Yes. So you’re
aware, assuming because based
[27:33] carryforward. Yes. So you’re
aware, assuming because based
on how the projections worth
[27:35] aware, assuming because based
on how the projections worth
you start with the
[27:36] on how the projections worth
you start with the
carryforward. You include that
[27:39] you start with the
carryforward. You include that
basin. The start.
[27:41] carryforward. You include that
basin. The start.
>> And and the and less there’s
[27:42] basin. The start.
>> And and the and less there’s
a surplus in that fiscal year.
[27:43] >> And and the and less there’s
a surplus in that fiscal year.
That is what’s then being put
[27:45] a surplus in that fiscal year.
That is what’s then being put
back into the carryforward.
[27:47] That is what’s then being put
back into the carryforward.
>> And the following year
[27:48] back into the carryforward.
>> And the following year
because you’re not there’s a
[27:50] >> And the following year
because you’re not there’s a
structural imbalance between
[27:50] because you’re not there’s a
structural imbalance between
you’re operating revenues,
[27:52] structural imbalance between
you’re operating revenues,
you’re operating expenditures.
[27:54] you’re operating revenues,
you’re operating expenditures.
You’re not seeing as strong of
[27:55] you’re operating expenditures.
You’re not seeing as strong of
a surplus being able to put
[27:57] You’re not seeing as strong of
a surplus being able to put
back into the carryforward to
[27:58] a surplus being able to put
back into the carryforward to
make that base stronger from
[28:01] back into the carryforward to
make that base stronger from
year to year.
[28:03] make that base stronger from
year to year.
Commissioner Kerik Skis I’m
[28:05] year to year.
Commissioner Kerik Skis I’m
sorry, Commissioner, I’m sorry.
[28:09] Commissioner Kerik Skis I’m
sorry, Commissioner, I’m sorry.
Mister Davis.
[28:10] sorry, Commissioner, I’m sorry.
Mister Davis.
>> I I figured all that out.
[28:11] Mister Davis.
>> I I figured all that out.
It is essentially I think if
[28:14] >> I I figured all that out.
It is essentially I think if
you look at it from me, sort
[28:15] It is essentially I think if
you look at it from me, sort
of a common sense standpoint,
[28:16] you look at it from me, sort
of a common sense standpoint,
we’re always told that
[28:19] of a common sense standpoint,
we’re always told that
residential growth cost more.
[28:20] we’re always told that
residential growth cost more.
>> Then they pay in taxes,
[28:22] residential growth cost more.
>> Then they pay in taxes,
chair and commercial and
[28:23] >> Then they pay in taxes,
chair and commercial and
industrial pay more in taxes
[28:25] chair and commercial and
industrial pay more in taxes
than they take in services.
[28:27] industrial pay more in taxes
than they take in services.
And so does this. Did you work
[28:28] than they take in services.
And so does this. Did you work
with Metro development forecast
[28:32] And so does this. Did you work
with Metro development forecast
in terms of what what we
[28:33] with Metro development forecast
in terms of what what we
currently have zoned commercial
[28:35] in terms of what what we
currently have zoned commercial
and industrial and AG, which
[28:38] currently have zoned commercial
and industrial and AG, which
are all part of net positive,
[28:39] and industrial and AG, which
are all part of net positive,
too.
[28:39] are all part of net positive,
too.
>> The tax base. So we did.
[28:40] too.
>> The tax base. So we did.
We did take into account the
[28:41] >> The tax base. So we did.
We did take into account the
Metro forecasts projections.
[28:44] We did take into account the
Metro forecasts projections.
So those are included.
[28:45] Metro forecasts projections.
So those are included.
>> And the projections for the
[28:47] So those are included.
>> And the projections for the
property tax.
[28:48] >> And the projections for the
property tax.
>> As well as any of the other
[28:49] property tax.
>> As well as any of the other
economically driven
[28:52] >> As well as any of the other
economically driven
assumptions. We did use the
[28:53] economically driven
assumptions. We did use the
Metro forecasters report as the
[28:56] assumptions. We did use the
Metro forecasters report as the
basis of those projections.
[28:58] Metro forecasters report as the
basis of those projections.
Okay. So we do have a chance
[29:01] basis of those projections.
Okay. So we do have a chance
>> potentially.
[29:02] Okay. So we do have a chance
>> potentially.
Change the south going with the
[29:04] >> potentially.
Change the south going with the
zoning decision? Absolutely.
[29:05] Change the south going with the
zoning decision? Absolutely.
You know that the model itself
[29:07] zoning decision? Absolutely.
You know that the model itself
is built very flexibly so that
[29:10] You know that the model itself
is built very flexibly so that
they any county person can go
[29:11] is built very flexibly so that
they any county person can go
in.
[29:11] they any county person can go
in.
>> Change the numbers, change
[29:12] in.
>> Change the numbers, change
the percentages. So if you have
[29:14] >> Change the numbers, change
the percentages. So if you have
updated numbers from Metro
[29:15] the percentages. So if you have
updated numbers from Metro
forecasters as you have a
[29:16] updated numbers from Metro
forecasters as you have a
different assumptions that
[29:17] forecasters as you have a
different assumptions that
either come down from the state
[29:18] different assumptions that
either come down from the state
or from policy decisions out of
[29:20] either come down from the state
or from policy decisions out of
this group, this elected body,
[29:22] or from policy decisions out of
this group, this elected body,
you all can make those changes
[29:23] this group, this elected body,
you all can make those changes
and see that this could impact
[29:24] you all can make those changes
and see that this could impact
over time. Not only in the
[29:26] and see that this could impact
over time. Not only in the
first year of the that budget,
[29:28] over time. Not only in the
first year of the that budget,
but also in future years.
[29:29] first year of the that budget,
but also in future years.
Super thank you, Chair
[29:32] but also in future years.
Super thank you, Chair
Commissioner Barry.
[29:33] Super thank you, Chair
Commissioner Barry.
>> I have a question. This man,
[29:34] Commissioner Barry.
>> I have a question. This man,
if the reserves amount that
[29:36] >> I have a question. This man,
if the reserves amount that
we take every year and set
[29:41] if the reserves amount that
we take every year and set
aside increase. Because if
[29:44] we take every year and set
aside increase. Because if
we’re getting more money.
[29:44] aside increase. Because if
we’re getting more money.
Okay from the Bab rejection
[29:46] we’re getting more money.
Okay from the Bab rejection
because we actually have more
[29:48] Okay from the Bab rejection
because we actually have more
population. We have more
[29:51] because we actually have more
population. We have more
businesses so our income where
[29:53] population. We have more
businesses so our income where
revenue is increasing okay.
[29:57] businesses so our income where
revenue is increasing okay.
I I agree. The reserve should
[29:59] revenue is increasing okay.
I I agree. The reserve should
also be increasing because if
[30:02] I I agree. The reserve should
also be increasing because if
I take and I increase which
[30:03] also be increasing because if
I take and I increase which
coming in and I also increased
[30:05] I take and I increase which
coming in and I also increased
that’s good increased what I’m
[30:09] coming in and I also increased
that’s good increased what I’m
going to set aside so that’s
[30:09] that’s good increased what I’m
going to set aside so that’s
why I don’t understand where
[30:10] going to set aside so that’s
why I don’t understand where
you’re getting negative numbers
[30:13] why I don’t understand where
you’re getting negative numbers
for this. You know, surplus
[30:15] you’re getting negative numbers
for this. You know, surplus
because if I’m getting more set
[30:18] for this. You know, surplus
because if I’m getting more set
aside every year.
[30:21] because if I’m getting more set
aside every year.
It has to be growing,
[30:22] aside every year.
It has to be growing,
not shrinking.
[30:22] It has to be growing,
not shrinking.
>> You are growing. Your
[30:23] not shrinking.
>> You are growing. Your
revenue bases are growing, but
[30:24] >> You are growing. Your
revenue bases are growing, but
your expenditures are going
[30:27] revenue bases are growing, but
your expenditures are going
faster, which is I think the
[30:29] your expenditures are going
faster, which is I think the
piece of this that is the
[30:30] faster, which is I think the
piece of this that is the
particularly when you pull the
[30:32] piece of this that is the
particularly when you pull the
carryforward out the growth
[30:34] particularly when you pull the
carryforward out the growth
of your expenditures is far
[30:36] carryforward out the growth
of your expenditures is far
outpacing your revenue base
[30:39] of your expenditures is far
outpacing your revenue base
and that using the metro
[30:40] outpacing your revenue base
and that using the metro
forecasting projections as to
[30:41] and that using the metro
forecasting projections as to
what we’re going to grow as a
[30:43] forecasting projections as to
what we’re going to grow as a
Yes, ma’am.
[30:43] what we’re going to grow as a
Yes, ma’am.
>> We’re still going to lose.
[30:47] Yes, ma’am.
>> We’re still going to lose.
You’re still going to have your
[30:48] >> We’re still going to lose.
You’re still going to have your
expenditures growing faster
[30:49] You’re still going to have your
expenditures growing faster
than your revenues. And a lot
[30:50] expenditures growing faster
than your revenues. And a lot
of that is built on.
[30:52] than your revenues. And a lot
of that is built on.
>> I would say assumptions an,
[30:53] of that is built on.
>> I would say assumptions an,
you know, decisions that may
[30:55] >> I would say assumptions an,
you know, decisions that may
not be fully in your control.
[30:56] you know, decisions that may
not be fully in your control.
The detention facility.
[30:59] not be fully in your control.
The detention facility.
Contractors is growing. Your
[30:59] The detention facility.
Contractors is growing. Your
costs on your elected
[31:00] Contractors is growing. Your
costs on your elected
officials, particularly out of
[31:03] costs on your elected
officials, particularly out of
this year. Our growing quite
[31:03] officials, particularly out of
this year. Our growing quite
fast and make up a large
[31:04] this year. Our growing quite
fast and make up a large
percentage of your expenditure
[31:08] fast and make up a large
percentage of your expenditure
base you’re also seeing
[31:09] percentage of your expenditure
base you’re also seeing
generally the growth in
[31:10] base you’re also seeing
generally the growth in
salaries and wages. All of that
[31:13] generally the growth in
salaries and wages. All of that
are growing at a at a pretty
[31:18] salaries and wages. All of that
are growing at a at a pretty
high clip in Those key drivers
[31:19] are growing at a at a pretty
high clip in Those key drivers
right here. These are really
[31:23] high clip in Those key drivers
right here. These are really
what’s driving.
[31:23] right here. These are really
what’s driving.
>> The faster pace expenditure
[31:25] what’s driving.
>> The faster pace expenditure
growth over your revenues?
[31:27] >> The faster pace expenditure
growth over your revenues?
I think with the continuation
[31:29] growth over your revenues?
I think with the continuation
of continuing to think about
[31:31] I think with the continuation
of continuing to think about
and trying to have annual
[31:32] of continuing to think about
and trying to have annual
conversations about how do you
[31:34] and trying to have annual
conversations about how do you
balance your expenditure
[31:35] conversations about how do you
balance your expenditure
burden.
[31:35] balance your expenditure
burden.
>> With your available revenues
[31:38] burden.
>> With your available revenues
or and or how do you increase
[31:40] >> With your available revenues
or and or how do you increase
your revenue diversification?
[31:42] or and or how do you increase
your revenue diversification?
How do you make sure that
[31:43] your revenue diversification?
How do you make sure that
you’re maxing out on things
[31:44] How do you make sure that
you’re maxing out on things
that will allow you to bring in
[31:46] you’re maxing out on things
that will allow you to bring in
more revenues on an annual
[31:49] that will allow you to bring in
more revenues on an annual
basis? This gap will not be
[31:49] more revenues on an annual
basis? This gap will not be
there because you all be making
[31:52] basis? This gap will not be
there because you all be making
the annual decisions to address
[31:54] there because you all be making
the annual decisions to address
any potential surplus deficit
[31:56] the annual decisions to address
any potential surplus deficit
in real time. The projection
[31:56] any potential surplus deficit
in real time. The projection
itself, like I said, is the
[31:59] in real time. The projection
itself, like I said, is the
status quo. If the if you
[32:01] itself, like I said, is the
status quo. If the if you
continue as you are with no
[32:04] status quo. If the if you
continue as you are with no
policy changes with no
[32:05] continue as you are with no
policy changes with no
effective changes, assuming the
[32:07] policy changes with no
effective changes, assuming the
growth that you’re likely to
[32:08] effective changes, assuming the
growth that you’re likely to
see based on the Metro
[32:09] growth that you’re likely to
see based on the Metro
forecasters projections on the
[32:11] see based on the Metro
forecasters projections on the
revenue side and based on some
[32:12] forecasters projections on the
revenue side and based on some
know notes on the expenditure
[32:14] revenue side and based on some
know notes on the expenditure
side.
[32:14] know notes on the expenditure
side.
>> Well, we’re not what I’m
[32:17] side.
>> Well, we’re not what I’m
thinking. News. Okay. As the
[32:21] >> Well, we’re not what I’m
thinking. News. Okay. As the
revenues grow, we also continue
[32:23] thinking. News. Okay. As the
revenues grow, we also continue
taking out users. Yes. So the
[32:25] revenues grow, we also continue
taking out users. Yes. So the
reserves have to grow because
[32:28] taking out users. Yes. So the
reserves have to grow because
the percentage, the amount, you
[32:29] reserves have to grow because
the percentage, the amount, you
know, knows the magic text on
[32:32] the percentage, the amount, you
know, knows the magic text on
instead of 100. It may be
[32:34] know, knows the magic text on
instead of 100. It may be
armed. 50 sure. Okay. So if
[32:38] instead of 100. It may be
armed. 50 sure. Okay. So if
I’m raising everything.
[32:40] armed. 50 sure. Okay. So if
I’m raising everything.
Then I still, you know, it
[32:41] I’m raising everything.
Then I still, you know, it
amazes me. How you tell me is
[32:42] Then I still, you know, it
amazes me. How you tell me is
going to shrink. You tell me
[32:44] amazes me. How you tell me is
going to shrink. You tell me
the expenses are going to go
[32:47] going to shrink. You tell me
the expenses are going to go
that fast. Yes, ma’am.
[32:52] the expenses are going to go
that fast. Yes, ma’am.
Commissioner Davis? see if I
[32:54] that fast. Yes, ma’am.
Commissioner Davis? see if I
can help clarify. We have been
[32:56] Commissioner Davis? see if I
can help clarify. We have been
told over and over and over
[33:00] can help clarify. We have been
told over and over and over
that the average.
[33:01] told over and over and over
that the average.
>> Cost per dollar paid into
[33:02] that the average.
>> Cost per dollar paid into
the system by residents.
[33:05] >> Cost per dollar paid into
the system by residents.
It costs U.S. dollar 50 to
[33:08] the system by residents.
It costs U.S. dollar 50 to
serve them. We are growing rez
[33:10] It costs U.S. dollar 50 to
serve them. We are growing rez
too fast and residential, not
[33:13] serve them. We are growing rez
too fast and residential, not
enough in commercial and
[33:14] too fast and residential, not
enough in commercial and
industrial Costa. 70 to serve
[33:17] enough in commercial and
industrial Costa. 70 to serve
every dollar that they pay n
[33:19] industrial Costa. 70 to serve
every dollar that they pay n
it costs us $0.30 to serve.
[33:22] every dollar that they pay n
it costs us $0.30 to serve.
Every dollar ad comes at this
[33:23] it costs us $0.30 to serve.
Every dollar ad comes at this
has been a cliff that we’ve
[33:27] Every dollar ad comes at this
has been a cliff that we’ve
been facing for a while by
[33:27] has been a cliff that we’ve
been facing for a while by
right development, personal
[33:30] been facing for a while by
right development, personal
property rights. And this is
[33:31] right development, personal
property rights. And this is
why on all of our zoning cases,
[33:35] property rights. And this is
why on all of our zoning cases,
we need to put more commercial
[33:36] why on all of our zoning cases,
we need to put more commercial
and more industrial in place.
[33:37] we need to put more commercial
and more industrial in place.
Obviously in the appropriate
[33:39] and more industrial in place.
Obviously in the appropriate
places, not, you know,
[33:41] Obviously in the appropriate
places, not, you know,
industrial next to a
[33:43] places, not, you know,
industrial next to a
neighborhood. Okay. But these
[33:45] industrial next to a
neighborhood. Okay. But these
are really critical policy
[33:46] neighborhood. Okay. But these
are really critical policy
decisions and I am very
[33:50] are really critical policy
decisions and I am very
thankful for the heads up.
[33:52] decisions and I am very
thankful for the heads up.
Any more questions. I think
[33:53] thankful for the heads up.
Any more questions. I think
some of this also clear,
[33:56] Any more questions. I think
some of this also clear,
clarify a little bit.
[33:56] some of this also clear,
clarify a little bit.
>> As we keep going. So we
[33:57] clarify a little bit.
>> As we keep going. So we
talked a little bit about the
[34:02] >> As we keep going. So we
talked a little bit about the
that really the dominance in
[34:02] talked a little bit about the
that really the dominance in
the reliant on carry forward
[34:05] that really the dominance in
the reliant on carry forward
and how that is playing a
[34:07] the reliant on carry forward
and how that is playing a
material role in your ability
[34:08] and how that is playing a
material role in your ability
to continue to replenish your
[34:10] material role in your ability
to continue to replenish your
live reserves as you want to
[34:11] to continue to replenish your
live reserves as you want to
based on your reserve policy,
[34:14] live reserves as you want to
based on your reserve policy,
but also to manage your annual
[34:17] based on your reserve policy,
but also to manage your annual
operating budget.
[34:18] but also to manage your annual
operating budget.
This I think maybe helps to
[34:19] operating budget.
This I think maybe helps to
clarify a little bit about
[34:22] This I think maybe helps to
clarify a little bit about
exactly how we’re leveraging
[34:23] clarify a little bit about
exactly how we’re leveraging
some of the different
[34:24] exactly how we’re leveraging
some of the different
projections and particularly on
[34:28] some of the different
projections and particularly on
the expenditure side. So 2024
[34:30] projections and particularly on
the expenditure side. So 2024
increase, particularly due to
[34:31] the expenditure side. So 2024
increase, particularly due to
a study generally closer to
[34:33] increase, particularly due to
a study generally closer to
4% across the board increases
[34:35] a study generally closer to
4% across the board increases
retirement contributions.
[34:36] 4% across the board increases
retirement contributions.
We know that those are going to
[34:38] retirement contributions.
We know that those are going to
grow that county share of your
[34:41] We know that those are going to
grow that county share of your
net pension liability. You’re
[34:43] grow that county share of your
net pension liability. You’re
max growth by the contract and
[34:45] net pension liability. You’re
max growth by the contract and
statue of the U.S. marshal are
[34:46] max growth by the contract and
statue of the U.S. marshal are
also driving your cars growth,
[34:48] statue of the U.S. marshal are
also driving your cars growth,
that detention facility
[34:49] also driving your cars growth,
that detention facility
contract and then as well as
[34:51] that detention facility
contract and then as well as
the capital outlay likely to
[34:53] contract and then as well as
the capital outlay likely to
increase closer to an
[34:56] the capital outlay likely to
increase closer to an
inflation. And then we’re also
[34:57] increase closer to an
inflation. And then we’re also
assuming these likely growth
[35:00] inflation. And then we’re also
assuming these likely growth
by the salaries and wages in
[35:03] assuming these likely growth
by the salaries and wages in
your general operating for the
[35:03] by the salaries and wages in
your general operating for the
sheriff’s office says, hey,
[35:07] your general operating for the
sheriff’s office says, hey,
you’re also on the sales tax
[35:07] sheriff’s office says, hey,
you’re also on the sales tax
side inspecting. I anticipate
[35:10] you’re also on the sales tax
side inspecting. I anticipate
Inc softer inflation over the
[35:12] side inspecting. I anticipate
Inc softer inflation over the
projection period, some of the
[35:14] Inc softer inflation over the
projection period, some of the
economic uncertainty continues
[35:17] projection period, some of the
economic uncertainty continues
to go about.
[35:19] economic uncertainty continues
to go about.
>> You’ll you’ll see here we I
[35:19] to go about.
>> You’ll you’ll see here we I
flagged this, particularly for
[35:22] >> You’ll you’ll see here we I
flagged this, particularly for
the detention facility. It is
[35:23] flagged this, particularly for
the detention facility. It is
your fastest growing
[35:26] the detention facility. It is
your fastest growing
expenditure roll up by far
[35:28] your fastest growing
expenditure roll up by far
largely due to the contracts in
[35:28] expenditure roll up by far
largely due to the contracts in
the statutes that govern how
[35:32] largely due to the contracts in
the statutes that govern how
those funds are spent so you’ll
[35:35] the statutes that govern how
those funds are spent so you’ll
see from Fy 25 budget. You’re
[35:37] those funds are spent so you’ll
see from Fy 25 budget. You’re
budgeting. 18.4 million in Fy
[35:39] see from Fy 25 budget. You’re
budgeting. 18.4 million in Fy
25. It’s projected to grow to
[35:41] budgeting. 18.4 million in Fy
25. It’s projected to grow to
almost 30 million by 2030.
[35:43] 25. It’s projected to grow to
almost 30 million by 2030.
That is a huge growth. And
[35:44] almost 30 million by 2030.
That is a huge growth. And
that’s of a lot of what’s
[35:47] That is a huge growth. And
that’s of a lot of what’s
driving the the the as deficit,
[35:49] that’s of a lot of what’s
driving the the the as deficit,
particularly in the out years.
[35:51] driving the the the as deficit,
particularly in the out years.
Is this very rapid growth that
[35:52] particularly in the out years.
Is this very rapid growth that
you’re seeing in your tunes
[35:55] Is this very rapid growth that
you’re seeing in your tunes
facility contract.
[35:58] you’re seeing in your tunes
facility contract.
So a path forward, you’re
[35:59] facility contract.
So a path forward, you’re
managing a modest structural
[36:01] So a path forward, you’re
managing a modest structural
surplus where your overall
[36:02] managing a modest structural
surplus where your overall
growth and your revenues
[36:04] surplus where your overall
growth and your revenues
slightly higher than your
[36:06] growth and your revenues
slightly higher than your
overall growth for your
[36:07] slightly higher than your
overall growth for your
expenditures. You have a
[36:08] overall growth for your
expenditures. You have a
healthy fund balance. And if
[36:09] expenditures. You have a
healthy fund balance. And if
current trends continue that
[36:10] healthy fund balance. And if
current trends continue that
fund balance will continue to
[36:13] current trends continue that
fund balance will continue to
increase. However, the use of
[36:15] fund balance will continue to
increase. However, the use of
your Kerry for does obscure
[36:15] increase. However, the use of
your Kerry for does obscure
your county’s true financial
[36:18] your Kerry for does obscure
your county’s true financial
picture. It without the yearly
[36:19] your county’s true financial
picture. It without the yearly
carryforward funds. The county
[36:21] picture. It without the yearly
carryforward funds. The county
is projected to run deficits
[36:24] carryforward funds. The county
is projected to run deficits
starting in 2029 2030, even
[36:25] is projected to run deficits
starting in 2029 2030, even
after incorporating funds that
[36:27] starting in 2029 2030, even
after incorporating funds that
would normally be applied from
[36:28] after incorporating funds that
would normally be applied from
the county’s Reserve Budget
[36:31] would normally be applied from
the county’s Reserve Budget
Fund balance. There are some
[36:32] the county’s Reserve Budget
Fund balance. There are some
steps that we would recommend
[36:34] Fund balance. There are some
steps that we would recommend
it thinking about your tax
[36:35] steps that we would recommend
it thinking about your tax
revenue. If you think back to
[36:38] it thinking about your tax
revenue. If you think back to
the
[36:39] revenue. If you think back to
the
the pie chart where you’ve got
[36:39] the
the pie chart where you’ve got
almost 90% when you’re
[36:41] the pie chart where you’ve got
almost 90% when you’re
excluding the carryforward of
[36:44] almost 90% when you’re
excluding the carryforward of
your revenues coming from
[36:45] excluding the carryforward of
your revenues coming from
taxes, thinking about either
[36:45] your revenues coming from
taxes, thinking about either
how to continue to build on
[36:49] taxes, thinking about either
how to continue to build on
that base, working with Metro
[36:49] how to continue to build on
that base, working with Metro
forecasters to understand what
[36:51] that base, working with Metro
forecasters to understand what
that growth will take over
[36:53] forecasters to understand what
that growth will take over
time. But also continuing to be
[36:55] that growth will take over
time. But also continuing to be
mindful of that changing in the
[36:55] time. But also continuing to be
mindful of that changing in the
economy and the rest,
[36:57] mindful of that changing in the
economy and the rest,
particularly on the sales tax
[36:58] economy and the rest,
particularly on the sales tax
side wanting to make sure that
[36:59] particularly on the sales tax
side wanting to make sure that
you have some diversification
[37:00] side wanting to make sure that
you have some diversification
on your revenue, particularly
[37:03] you have some diversification
on your revenue, particularly
on your taxes, thinking about
[37:06] on your revenue, particularly
on your taxes, thinking about
how you can decrease your
[37:06] on your taxes, thinking about
how you can decrease your
county expenditures,
[37:07] how you can decrease your
county expenditures,
particularly general operations
[37:09] county expenditures,
particularly general operations
related to the sheriff’s
[37:09] particularly general operations
related to the sheriff’s
office. If there are
[37:11] related to the sheriff’s
office. If there are
opportunities for efficiencies,
[37:12] office. If there are
opportunities for efficiencies,
if there are opportunities for
[37:14] opportunities for efficiencies,
if there are opportunities for
effectiveness of coordination
[37:16] if there are opportunities for
effectiveness of coordination
that can help to drive down or
[37:18] effectiveness of coordination
that can help to drive down or
to plateau those costs. That’s
[37:21] that can help to drive down or
to plateau those costs. That’s
worth exploring and then
[37:23] to plateau those costs. That’s
worth exploring and then
relying only on operating
[37:24] worth exploring and then
relying only on operating
revenues, expenditures in order
[37:25] relying only on operating
revenues, expenditures in order
to decrease your alliance on
[37:27] revenues, expenditures in order
to decrease your alliance on
the Kerry for going forward.
[37:28] to decrease your alliance on
the Kerry for going forward.
It’s another recommendation
[37:32] the Kerry for going forward.
It’s another recommendation
that we have thinking about
[37:32] It’s another recommendation
that we have thinking about
implementing controls and
[37:36] that we have thinking about
implementing controls and
policies to limit that Kerry
[37:36] implementing controls and
policies to limit that Kerry
Ford and the sort of the
[37:37] policies to limit that Kerry
Ford and the sort of the
appropriation of those rollover
[37:40] Ford and the sort of the
appropriation of those rollover
funds and then we’ve talked
[37:41] appropriation of those rollover
funds and then we’ve talked
with, I think almost all of the
[37:42] funds and then we’ve talked
with, I think almost all of the
all over the course of our work
[37:44] with, I think almost all of the
all over the course of our work
about the various capital
[37:45] all over the course of our work
about the various capital
needs, the projects, the
[37:46] about the various capital
needs, the projects, the
investments that the county
[37:47] needs, the projects, the
investments that the county
wants to make, that residents
[37:49] investments that the county
wants to make, that residents
are hoping to see. These are
[37:51] wants to make, that residents
are hoping to see. These are
all things in there. We’ve
[37:52] are hoping to see. These are
all things in there. We’ve
reviewed in your targets for
[37:53] all things in there. We’ve
reviewed in your targets for
action as well as your general
[37:55] reviewed in your targets for
action as well as your general
fund Cip project list thinking
[37:56] action as well as your general
fund Cip project list thinking
about how you’re prioritizing
[37:59] fund Cip project list thinking
about how you’re prioritizing
that work leveraging the fact
[37:59] about how you’re prioritizing
that work leveraging the fact
that you’re able to now see
[38:02] that work leveraging the fact
that you’re able to now see
a multi-year forecast thinking
[38:03] that you’re able to now see
a multi-year forecast thinking
about how you which of those
[38:05] a multi-year forecast thinking
about how you which of those
projects have the ability to
[38:07] about how you which of those
projects have the ability to
with the investment in one
[38:08] projects have the ability to
with the investment in one
year. Hopefully see some
[38:10] with the investment in one
year. Hopefully see some
savings, either maintenance
[38:12] year. Hopefully see some
savings, either maintenance
costs or other upkeep costs
[38:13] savings, either maintenance
costs or other upkeep costs
that you’re already carrying
[38:15] costs or other upkeep costs
that you’re already carrying
the burden for. If you are able
[38:16] that you’re already carrying
the burden for. If you are able
to sort of capture what those
[38:19] the burden for. If you are able
to sort of capture what those
savings are by the new
[38:19] to sort of capture what those
savings are by the new
investment, you’re then able
[38:22] savings are by the new
investment, you’re then able
to reinvest those costs into
[38:25] investment, you’re then able
to reinvest those costs into
new and more projects on your
[38:26] to reinvest those costs into
new and more projects on your
list. And that obviously
[38:27] new and more projects on your
list. And that obviously
continuing to update that based
[38:29] list. And that obviously
continuing to update that based
on forecasts and the key
[38:32] continuing to update that based
on forecasts and the key
assumptions. This is not a
[38:33] on forecasts and the key
assumptions. This is not a
production. It’s a projection.
[38:34] assumptions. This is not a
production. It’s a projection.
So these assumptions are meant
[38:35] production. It’s a projection.
So these assumptions are meant
to be re-evaluated. They’re
[38:38] So these assumptions are meant
to be re-evaluated. They’re
meant to be reviewed regularly.
[38:41] to be re-evaluated. They’re
meant to be reviewed regularly.
And I think they’re
[38:41] meant to be reviewed regularly.
And I think they’re
appropriately meant to be
[38:42] And I think they’re
appropriately meant to be
scrutinized to make sure that
[38:44] appropriately meant to be
scrutinized to make sure that
the projections themselves are
[38:45] scrutinized to make sure that
the projections themselves are
meaningful and are realistic
[38:47] the projections themselves are
meaningful and are realistic
based on the experiences of
[38:50] meaningful and are realistic
based on the experiences of
the county, the economy, as
[38:50] based on the experiences of
the county, the economy, as
well as the policy decisions
[38:54] the county, the economy, as
well as the policy decisions
made by this body some of the
[38:55] well as the policy decisions
made by this body some of the
things that are not on the
[38:56] made by this body some of the
things that are not on the
slide, certainly making sure
[38:57] things that are not on the
slide, certainly making sure
that any of your available for
[39:01] slide, certainly making sure
that any of your available for
the revenue? Our maxed out or
[39:02] that any of your available for
the revenue? Our maxed out or
that are you’re maximizing that
[39:05] the revenue? Our maxed out or
that are you’re maximizing that
the revenue evaluating what
[39:07] that are you’re maximizing that
the revenue evaluating what
the costs recovery costs are.
[39:09] the revenue evaluating what
the costs recovery costs are.
Is another good bres practice
[39:10] the costs recovery costs are.
Is another good bres practice
that many municipalities who
[39:12] Is another good bres practice
that many municipalities who
are considering on the revenue
[39:13] that many municipalities who
are considering on the revenue
side making some of those
[39:16] are considering on the revenue
side making some of those
adjustments I’m happy. This is
[39:20] side making some of those
adjustments I’m happy. This is
I think the they’re in the
[39:20] adjustments I’m happy. This is
I think the they’re in the
conversation about all flags.
[39:21] I think the they’re in the
conversation about all flags.
Some of the list we have in the
[39:24] conversation about all flags.
Some of the list we have in the
model already.
[39:24] Some of the list we have in the
model already.
>> Incorporated in the list of
[39:27] model already.
>> Incorporated in the list of
capital projects from your most
[39:30] >> Incorporated in the list of
capital projects from your most
recent time targets for action.
[39:31] capital projects from your most
recent time targets for action.
But also some of the projects
[39:33] recent time targets for action.
But also some of the projects
that folks have highlighted
[39:35] But also some of the projects
that folks have highlighted
no knowns around. If there was
[39:37] that folks have highlighted
no knowns around. If there was
needs for additional disaster
[39:38] no knowns around. If there was
needs for additional disaster
funding. If you change your
[39:40] needs for additional disaster
funding. If you change your
fund balance reserve level,
[39:42] funding. If you change your
fund balance reserve level,
that’s assumed in the model,
[39:45] fund balance reserve level,
that’s assumed in the model,
there’s a lot if you change
[39:46] that’s assumed in the model,
there’s a lot if you change
staffing numbers, those
[39:47] there’s a lot if you change
staffing numbers, those
capabilities are already built
[39:49] staffing numbers, those
capabilities are already built
into the model. So they all you
[39:50] capabilities are already built
into the model. So they all you
do is turn the switch on to see
[39:51] into the model. So they all you
do is turn the switch on to see
the fiscal impact of those
[39:54] do is turn the switch on to see
the fiscal impact of those
items of time. So ensuring
[39:57] the fiscal impact of those
items of time. So ensuring
alignment with near-term
[39:58] items of time. So ensuring
alignment with near-term
finances, mother recommendation
[39:59] alignment with near-term
finances, mother recommendation
that we have, as you all are
[40:02] finances, mother recommendation
that we have, as you all are
continuing to evaluate what
[40:03] that we have, as you all are
continuing to evaluate what
your needs are and how you want
[40:05] continuing to evaluate what
your needs are and how you want
to leverage available funds.
[40:07] your needs are and how you want
to leverage available funds.
Fear. Very important
[40:08] to leverage available funds.
Fear. Very important
priorities. So happy to answer
[40:10] Fear. Very important
priorities. So happy to answer
any more questions. You have.
[40:12] priorities. So happy to answer
any more questions. You have.
I can also share do little
[40:12] any more questions. You have.
I can also share do little
preview of the model. He would
[40:14] I can also share do little
preview of the model. He would
like to see it. We have
[40:14] preview of the model. He would
like to see it. We have
available to show you all as
[40:19] like to see it. We have
available to show you all as
well. Commissioner Kerik.
[40:20] available to show you all as
well. Commissioner Kerik.
>> The only question I have
[40:22] well. Commissioner Kerik.
>> The only question I have
for you is this man. This is
[40:27] >> The only question I have
for you is this man. This is
based on. Being able to
[40:28] for you is this man. This is
based on. Being able to
assessed property taxes on all
[40:31] based on. Being able to
assessed property taxes on all
the residents of Citrus County.
[40:34] assessed property taxes on all
the residents of Citrus County.
Correct? Yes, ma’am. Did you
[40:35] the residents of Citrus County.
Correct? Yes, ma’am. Did you
take into consideration with
[40:37] Correct? Yes, ma’am. Did you
take into consideration with
the Legislature up in
[40:39] take into consideration with
the Legislature up in
Tallahassee is discussing about
[40:42] the Legislature up in
Tallahassee is discussing about
$500,000 Homestead Week engine
[40:46] Tallahassee is discussing about
$500,000 Homestead Week engine
for every property.
[40:47] $500,000 Homestead Week engine
for every property.
>> We get so the model includes
[40:49] for every property.
>> We get so the model includes
a scenario where we effectively
[40:52] >> We get so the model includes
a scenario where we effectively
at apply that assumption and it
[40:55] a scenario where we effectively
at apply that assumption and it
is detrimental. It would be
[40:55] at apply that assumption and it
is detrimental. It would be
detrimental to the county would
[40:56] is detrimental. It would be
detrimental to the county would
be detrimental to local
[40:56] detrimental to the county would
be detrimental to local
governments across the state.
[41:01] be detrimental to local
governments across the state.
But yes, we have incorporated
[41:02] governments across the state.
But yes, we have incorporated
that in the model so that you
[41:03] But yes, we have incorporated
that in the model so that you
can see the fiscal impact of
[41:05] that in the model so that you
can see the fiscal impact of
that that policy choice.
[41:08] can see the fiscal impact of
that that policy choice.
Thank you. Yes, ma’am.
[41:11] that that policy choice.
Thank you. Yes, ma’am.
>> I would like to see an
[41:12] Thank you. Yes, ma’am.
>> I would like to see an
example of cheer them on.
[41:16] >> I would like to see an
example of cheer them on.
Sure.
[41:39] example of cheer them on.
Sure.
>> Well, no, but I feel it up.
[41:39] Sure.
>> Well, no, but I feel it up.
Is there any other questions
[41:41] >> Well, no, but I feel it up.
Is there any other questions
while we get the model? Place?
[41:44] Is there any other questions
while we get the model? Place?
Your Davis?
[41:46] while we get the model? Place?
Your Davis?
>> When we had our discussion
[41:50] Your Davis?
>> When we had our discussion
prior on Zoom, I had brought up
[41:51] >> When we had our discussion
prior on Zoom, I had brought up
the Citrus Hope Project, the
[41:55] prior on Zoom, I had brought up
the Citrus Hope Project, the
homeless shelter and you said
[41:56] the Citrus Hope Project, the
homeless shelter and you said
that you have run numbers
[41:58] homeless shelter and you said
that you have run numbers
before for other clients and so
[41:58] that you have run numbers
before for other clients and so
forth or could run those
[42:02] before for other clients and so
forth or could run those
numbers for us. The I am struck
[42:04] forth or could run those
numbers for us. The I am struck
by the fact that it is roughly
[42:07] numbers for us. The I am struck
by the fact that it is roughly
$75 a day to keep. And we have
[42:10] by the fact that it is roughly
$75 a day to keep. And we have
a basically a mandate from the
[42:12] $75 a day to keep. And we have
a basically a mandate from the
state to arrest homeless
[42:14] a basically a mandate from the
state to arrest homeless
people. Our own contract
[42:15] state to arrest homeless
people. Our own contract
monitor says that people are
[42:16] people. Our own contract
monitor says that people are
serving life sentences 3 months
[42:19] monitor says that people are
serving life sentences 3 months
at a time they cycle in this
[42:20] serving life sentences 3 months
at a time they cycle in this
cycle out the cycle in this
[42:23] at a time they cycle in this
cycle out the cycle in this
cycle out. And $75 a day.
[42:24] cycle out the cycle in this
cycle out. And $75 a day.
All of the whole properties are
[42:27] cycle out. And $75 a day.
All of the whole properties are
$25 a day to just under $30
[42:30] All of the whole properties are
$25 a day to just under $30
a day per person. So of course,
[42:32] $25 a day to just under $30
a day per person. So of course,
we have to approximate how many
[42:34] a day per person. So of course,
we have to approximate how many
are in jail because they’re
[42:36] we have to approximate how many
are in jail because they’re
homeless. But here’s that.
[42:40] are in jail because they’re
homeless. But here’s that.
The killer number that are much
[42:42] homeless. But here’s that.
The killer number that are much
beloved and respected recently.
[42:43] The killer number that are much
beloved and respected recently.
Retired Florida health director
[42:46] beloved and respected recently.
Retired Florida health director
locally Tito. Rubio said that.
[42:50] Retired Florida health director
locally Tito. Rubio said that.
We have a line item on our
[42:53] locally Tito. Rubio said that.
We have a line item on our
budget where we have to
[42:54] We have a line item on our
budget where we have to
reimburse Medicaid for indigent
[42:57] budget where we have to
reimburse Medicaid for indigent
care and it was 1.8 million
[43:00] reimburse Medicaid for indigent
care and it was 1.8 million
dollars this year. That’s a
[43:03] care and it was 1.8 million
dollars this year. That’s a
pretty huge number.
[43:04] dollars this year. That’s a
pretty huge number.
So at Tampa hope, for example,
[43:09] pretty huge number.
So at Tampa hope, for example,
they have a Tampa general box
[43:10] So at Tampa hope, for example,
they have a Tampa general box
where the people go into the
[43:12] they have a Tampa general box
where the people go into the
box and then they do telehealth
[43:14] where the people go into the
box and then they do telehealth
and so all of that health care
[43:15] box and then they do telehealth
and so all of that health care
is taken care of that these
[43:17] and so all of that health care
is taken care of that these
homeless shelters, which keeps
[43:19] is taken care of that these
homeless shelters, which keeps
homeless folks out of the ares
[43:22] homeless shelters, which keeps
homeless folks out of the ares
and out of our taxpayer
[43:24] homeless folks out of the ares
and out of our taxpayer
pocketbook. So I would be super
[43:25] and out of our taxpayer
pocketbook. So I would be super
interested in what those
[43:26] pocketbook. So I would be super
interested in what those
numbers are because ultimately.
[43:29] interested in what those
numbers are because ultimately.
I believe if the numbers pan
[43:32] numbers are because ultimately.
I believe if the numbers pan
out the way, I think they will,
[43:33] I believe if the numbers pan
out the way, I think they will,
that we would end up saving
[43:37] out the way, I think they will,
that we would end up saving
taxpayer dollars by giving them
[43:37] that we would end up saving
taxpayer dollars by giving them
some state but not the full
[43:39] taxpayer dollars by giving them
some state but not the full
savings. But it’s a half the
[43:40] some state but not the full
savings. But it’s a half the
savings and then half of it
[43:44] savings. But it’s a half the
savings and then half of it
goes back to the taxpayers.
[43:46] savings and then half of it
goes back to the taxpayers.
So I’d be really interested in
[43:47] goes back to the taxpayers.
So I’d be really interested in
those numbers chair. And so
[43:47] So I’d be really interested in
those numbers chair. And so
the we’re actually sitting down
[43:49] those numbers chair. And so
the we’re actually sitting down
with again.
[43:50] the we’re actually sitting down
with again.
>> The county staff that we’ve
[43:51] with again.
>> The county staff that we’ve
been work with have been
[43:54] >> The county staff that we’ve
been work with have been
fantastic and
[43:55] been work with have been
fantastic and
>> the?
[43:55] fantastic and
>> the?
>> I think the ability for the
[43:57] >> the?
>> I think the ability for the
model to incorporate those
[43:58] >> I think the ability for the
model to incorporate those
assumptions, the numbers that
[43:58] model to incorporate those
assumptions, the numbers that
you’re talking about, what the
[44:01] assumptions, the numbers that
you’re talking about, what the
current costs are with the
[44:02] you’re talking about, what the
current costs are with the
projected savings are and what
[44:04] current costs are with the
projected savings are and what
the ongoing operating costs are
[44:06] projected savings are and what
the ongoing operating costs are
very easy to be incorporated
[44:07] the ongoing operating costs are
very easy to be incorporated
into the model so that you can
[44:08] very easy to be incorporated
into the model so that you can
see that full fiscal impact
[44:10] into the model so that you can
see that full fiscal impact
over time and sort of be able
[44:12] see that full fiscal impact
over time and sort of be able
to navigate what the upfront
[44:15] over time and sort of be able
to navigate what the upfront
costs are. Any, but also what
[44:16] to navigate what the upfront
costs are. Any, but also what
the savings are over time.
[44:18] costs are. Any, but also what
the savings are over time.
So with with the assumptions
[44:19] the savings are over time.
So with with the assumptions
that certainly something that
[44:20] So with with the assumptions
that certainly something that
can be incorporated with that
[44:22] that certainly something that
can be incorporated with that
and I can certainly work on the
[44:22] can be incorporated with that
and I can certainly work on the
other municipalities that have
[44:25] and I can certainly work on the
other municipalities that have
hope shelters to find out what
[44:26] other municipalities that have
hope shelters to find out what
they’ve.
[44:27] hope shelters to find out what
they’ve.
>> What’s the savings they have
[44:28] they’ve.
>> What’s the savings they have
realized, fair tax payers.
[44:32] >> What’s the savings they have
realized, fair tax payers.
I know the mayor of Tampa
[44:33] realized, fair tax payers.
I know the mayor of Tampa
promised a million dollars the
[44:35] I know the mayor of Tampa
promised a million dollars the
first year and 500,000 in each
[44:36] promised a million dollars the
first year and 500,000 in each
ensuing year and she kept it a
[44:38] first year and 500,000 in each
ensuing year and she kept it a
million because the savings
[44:40] ensuing year and she kept it a
million because the savings
were presumably that good in
[44:43] million because the savings
were presumably that good in
them. The I’m a big data hound.
[44:46] were presumably that good in
them. The I’m a big data hound.
I always try to. Numbers.
[44:49] them. The I’m a big data hound.
I always try to. Numbers.
Don’t lie. So we look data.
[44:52] I always try to. Numbers.
Don’t lie. So we look data.
Yeah, thank you.
[45:07] Don’t lie. So we look data.
Yeah, thank you.
And also that the model itself
[45:09] Yeah, thank you.
And also that the model itself
has been shared with the
[45:09] And also that the model itself
has been shared with the
county. So you will have it.
[45:12] has been shared with the
county. So you will have it.
It is in your possession.
[45:14] county. So you will have it.
It is in your possession.
>> And available to see and
[45:15] It is in your possession.
>> And available to see and
review if we’re still
[45:16] >> And available to see and
review if we’re still
navigating some that Apple will
[45:18] review if we’re still
navigating some that Apple will
see difficulties happy to find
[45:19] navigating some that Apple will
see difficulties happy to find
time to connect with you all
[45:20] see difficulties happy to find
time to connect with you all
and do another webinar to walk
[45:24] time to connect with you all
and do another webinar to walk
you through it and to share
[45:24] and do another webinar to walk
you through it and to share
answer any questions that you
[45:27] you through it and to share
answer any questions that you
all have.
[45:28] answer any questions that you
all have.
>> Well, while we’re waiting
[45:34] all have.
>> Well, while we’re waiting
Mr. Howard, I would be
[45:35] >> Well, while we’re waiting
Mr. Howard, I would be
interested in it. You know,
[45:36] Mr. Howard, I would be
interested in it. You know,
you’ve obviously been working
[45:37] interested in it. You know,
you’ve obviously been working
with this. One of the things
[45:40] you’ve obviously been working
with this. One of the things
that I felt like.
[45:41] with this. One of the things
that I felt like.
Was important is as opposed
[45:46] that I felt like.
Was important is as opposed
to setting. Coming in and half
[45:47] Was important is as opposed
to setting. Coming in and half
a billion dollars a year and
[45:49] to setting. Coming in and half
a billion dollars a year and
just doing a one-year budget.
[45:50] a billion dollars a year and
just doing a one-year budget.
It’s almost like we could
[45:53] just doing a one-year budget.
It’s almost like we could
forecast out maybe 3 years.
[45:55] It’s almost like we could
forecast out maybe 3 years.
Not to say it’s not going to
[45:55] forecast out maybe 3 years.
Not to say it’s not going to
have some movement in it, but
[45:56] Not to say it’s not going to
have some movement in it, but
you kind of have a benchmark of
[45:58] have some movement in it, but
you kind of have a benchmark of
where you’re going
[46:01] you kind of have a benchmark of
where you’re going
year-over-year. But I given
[46:02] where you’re going
year-over-year. But I given
the information that they have
[46:03] year-over-year. But I given
the information that they have
provided and taking into
[46:07] the information that they have
provided and taking into
account.
[46:09] provided and taking into
account.
Metro forecasts, teens,
[46:13] account.
Metro forecasts, teens,
predictions. What? What is how
[46:16] Metro forecasts, teens,
predictions. What? What is how
do you summarize this and as
[46:18] predictions. What? What is how
do you summarize this and as
our CEO of our county and where
[46:19] do you summarize this and as
our CEO of our county and where
we going. Yeah, I think, you
[46:20] our CEO of our county and where
we going. Yeah, I think, you
know, you know, we say hope is
[46:23] we going. Yeah, I think, you
know, you know, we say hope is
not a plan and what’s so great
[46:24] know, you know, we say hope is
not a plan and what’s so great
about that hold early behalf.
[46:25] not a plan and what’s so great
about that hold early behalf.
We’ve had lots of discussions
[46:27] about that hold early behalf.
We’ve had lots of discussions
with a tool that you can leave
[46:27] We’ve had lots of discussions
with a tool that you can leave
behind.
[46:28] with a tool that you can leave
behind.
>> Will allow U.S. White
[46:29] behind.
>> Will allow U.S. White
Commissioner Burke could
[46:30] >> Will allow U.S. White
Commissioner Burke could
mention, you know, some of the
[46:31] Commissioner Burke could
mention, you know, some of the
legislation. Whenever that
[46:31] mention, you know, some of the
legislation. Whenever that
happens, we can look at that
[46:34] legislation. Whenever that
happens, we can look at that
and make those assumptions and
[46:35] happens, we can look at that
and make those assumptions and
be more forward thinking as
[46:37] and make those assumptions and
be more forward thinking as
we’re looking to the future
[46:39] be more forward thinking as
we’re looking to the future
and, you know, some point if
[46:40] we’re looking to the future
and, you know, some point if
these predictions they made
[46:43] and, you know, some point if
these predictions they made
and there are some shuns, they
[46:43] these predictions they made
and there are some shuns, they
may become may not, but we can
[46:47] and there are some shuns, they
may become may not, but we can
properly plan. But the more
[46:47] may become may not, but we can
properly plan. But the more
proactive some excited about
[46:49] properly plan. But the more
proactive some excited about
that. I’ve been involved with
[46:51] proactive some excited about
that. I’ve been involved with
biennial budget, things like
[46:53] that. I’ve been involved with
biennial budget, things like
that. Many governments have
[46:53] biennial budget, things like
that. Many governments have
tried that have been
[46:55] that. Many governments have
tried that have been
successful. Some Abbott, we’ve
[46:56] tried that have been
successful. Some Abbott, we’ve
had lots of discussions under
[46:57] successful. Some Abbott, we’ve
had lots of discussions under
interest and that whole Tammy,
[46:59] had lots of discussions under
interest and that whole Tammy,
this as well. That there’s a
[47:01] interest and that whole Tammy,
this as well. That there’s a
variety of the program based
[47:02] this as well. That there’s a
variety of the program based
budgeting. I actually like
[47:03] variety of the program based
budgeting. I actually like
program based. But one of the
[47:04] budgeting. I actually like
program based. But one of the
program cost be
[47:04] program based. But one of the
program cost be
performance-based budget.
[47:06] program cost be
performance-based budget.
Those are all kind of models.
[47:08] performance-based budget.
Those are all kind of models.
I would like to look at going
[47:09] Those are all kind of models.
I would like to look at going
forward. But this does give us
[47:11] I would like to look at going
forward. But this does give us
a better opportunity for think
[47:12] forward. But this does give us
a better opportunity for think
so. At some point, if we want
[47:13] a better opportunity for think
so. At some point, if we want
to look at whatever the project
[47:17] so. At some point, if we want
to look at whatever the project
is, an animal shelter, our
[47:18] to look at whatever the project
is, an animal shelter, our
other things, the sports call
[47:18] is, an animal shelter, our
other things, the sports call
these different things that we
[47:19] other things, the sports call
these different things that we
look at up here that I called
[47:20] these different things that we
look at up here that I called
the F bombs. We actually have
[47:22] look at up here that I called
the F bombs. We actually have
an opportunity now with those
[47:24] the F bombs. We actually have
an opportunity now with those
kind of data sets to have a
[47:25] an opportunity now with those
kind of data sets to have a
look at this model that we
[47:26] kind of data sets to have a
look at this model that we
haven’t forecast more properly.
[47:29] look at this model that we
haven’t forecast more properly.
Just going to help us to better
[47:31] haven’t forecast more properly.
Just going to help us to better
communicate as we’re going
[47:32] Just going to help us to better
communicate as we’re going
through a budgeting a mission
[47:33] communicate as we’re going
through a budgeting a mission
that that’s a different way of
[47:36] through a budgeting a mission
that that’s a different way of
doing business. We start to
[47:36] that that’s a different way of
doing business. We start to
a multi-year budgets, but it’s
[47:39] doing business. We start to
a multi-year budgets, but it’s
a good way to go as you
[47:39] a multi-year budgets, but it’s
a good way to go as you
properly plan. There’s a lot of
[47:42] a good way to go as you
properly plan. There’s a lot of
things are going to happen
[47:43] properly plan. There’s a lot of
things are going to happen
we’re beginning to face in the
[47:44] things are going to happen
we’re beginning to face in the
next couple years. We can’t
[47:45] we’re beginning to face in the
next couple years. We can’t
predict that. We don’t have a
[47:48] next couple years. We can’t
predict that. We don’t have a
the crystal ball. Look at.
[47:49] predict that. We don’t have a
the crystal ball. Look at.
But with all this opportunity
[47:50] the crystal ball. Look at.
But with all this opportunity
with the Metro forecast model
[47:52] But with all this opportunity
with the Metro forecast model
with this tool, we’re getting
[47:54] with the Metro forecast model
with this tool, we’re getting
to get a lot of tools that
[47:54] with this tool, we’re getting
to get a lot of tools that
we’re able actually proactively
[47:55] to get a lot of tools that
we’re able actually proactively
plan for this for this county
[47:57] we’re able actually proactively
plan for this for this county
going forward, which is going
[48:01] plan for this for this county
going forward, which is going
to put a son much better
[48:02] going forward, which is going
to put a son much better
positioning for the future.
[48:03] to put a son much better
positioning for the future.
So some excited about that
[48:04] positioning for the future.
So some excited about that
excited about the tool that
[48:06] So some excited about that
excited about the tool that
they’re leaving behind. We’re
[48:06] excited about the tool that
they’re leaving behind. We’re
going to continue to burn up
[48:08] they’re leaving behind. We’re
going to continue to burn up
their telephones, free of
[48:10] going to continue to burn up
their telephones, free of
charge. I’m told me into this
[48:10] their telephones, free of
charge. I’m told me into this
and to continue to do that.
[48:13] charge. I’m told me into this
and to continue to do that.
But this is exciting
[48:14] and to continue to do that.
But this is exciting
opportunities. A great tool to
[48:17] But this is exciting
opportunities. A great tool to
have in our tool box.
[48:20] opportunities. A great tool to
have in our tool box.
>> Poor ficken to the budget
[48:21] have in our tool box.
>> Poor ficken to the budget
you’re getting ready to set our
[48:25] >> Poor ficken to the budget
you’re getting ready to set our
new upcoming budget. So
[48:30] you’re getting ready to set our
new upcoming budget. So
>> policies, do you think that
[48:31] new upcoming budget. So
>> policies, do you think that
we should start to implement
[48:33] >> policies, do you think that
we should start to implement
going into this new budget and
[48:35] we should start to implement
going into this new budget and
what are some of your
[48:38] going into this new budget and
what are some of your
suggestions to
[48:40] what are some of your
suggestions to
kind of preset what may or may
[48:43] suggestions to
kind of preset what may or may
not come out of
[48:43] kind of preset what may or may
not come out of
the legislature?
[48:44] not come out of
the legislature?
>> Well, I think you get a it’s
[48:46] the legislature?
>> Well, I think you get a it’s
it’s it’s something I’ve looked
[48:46] >> Well, I think you get a it’s
it’s it’s something I’ve looked
at this in this. There’s a lot
[48:48] it’s it’s something I’ve looked
at this in this. There’s a lot
of things. Keep me up at night
[48:49] at this in this. There’s a lot
of things. Keep me up at night
and the corrections is one of
[48:51] of things. Keep me up at night
and the corrections is one of
those. Obviously at the fund
[48:55] and the corrections is one of
those. Obviously at the fund
that sheriffs, all these
[48:56] those. Obviously at the fund
that sheriffs, all these
things, you have to be funded
[48:56] that sheriffs, all these
things, you have to be funded
with local taxes and things
[48:57] things, you have to be funded
with local taxes and things
like that. This could be a
[49:00] with local taxes and things
like that. This could be a
different medium business
[49:01] like that. This could be a
different medium business
ultimately when everybody looks
[49:02] different medium business
ultimately when everybody looks
at that with his conversations,
[49:04] ultimately when everybody looks
at that with his conversations,
go, we’re still trying now to
[49:05] at that with his conversations,
go, we’re still trying now to
behind the scenes balance right
[49:07] go, we’re still trying now to
behind the scenes balance right
now, working with staff knows
[49:08] behind the scenes balance right
now, working with staff knows
where we’re looking at this
[49:09] now, working with staff knows
where we’re looking at this
5 million dollars additional
[49:10] where we’re looking at this
5 million dollars additional
for road resurfacing. Just
[49:13] 5 million dollars additional
for road resurfacing. Just
general fund money. I think
[49:14] for road resurfacing. Just
general fund money. I think
going forward what I call that
[49:15] general fund money. I think
going forward what I call that
the true up 20 is what really
[49:18] going forward what I call that
the true up 20 is what really
caused a colleague
[49:18] the true up 20 is what really
caused a colleague
Carryforward. I probably get a
[49:20] caused a colleague
Carryforward. I probably get a
look at that a little bit
[49:22] Carryforward. I probably get a
look at that a little bit
closer and see. How’s that
[49:22] look at that a little bit
closer and see. How’s that
going? I would like to have a
[49:23] closer and see. How’s that
going? I would like to have a
little bit more reserved.
[49:24] going? I would like to have a
little bit more reserved.
That’s kind of the stabbing.
[49:27] little bit more reserved.
That’s kind of the stabbing.
I’ll tell you the served in.
[49:30] That’s kind of the stabbing.
I’ll tell you the served in.
You look at my resignation
[49:32] I’ll tell you the served in.
You look at my resignation
letter I gave in I was very
[49:33] You look at my resignation
letter I gave in I was very
proud of 2 with 38%. reserves
[49:36] letter I gave in I was very
proud of 2 with 38%. reserves
are which is a lot of cash for
[49:37] proud of 2 with 38%. reserves
are which is a lot of cash for
it. But you got to balance that
[49:40] are which is a lot of cash for
it. But you got to balance that
out. You don’t have too much.
[49:40] it. But you got to balance that
out. You don’t have too much.
They’re either. That’s not good
[49:43] out. You don’t have too much.
They’re either. That’s not good
either. But but I think you get
[49:44] They’re either. That’s not good
either. But but I think you get
a look at that a little bit out
[49:44] either. But but I think you get
a look at that a little bit out
of little more health, your
[49:46] a look at that a little bit out
of little more health, your
fund balance. That’s me
[49:48] of little more health, your
fund balance. That’s me
personally. And also be
[49:49] fund balance. That’s me
personally. And also be
cautious going forward. We’re
[49:51] personally. And also be
cautious going forward. We’re
looking at this but be very
[49:53] cautious going forward. We’re
looking at this but be very
close to these assumptions and
[49:55] looking at this but be very
close to these assumptions and
hopefully they’re not accurate.
[49:55] close to these assumptions and
hopefully they’re not accurate.
This would be, you know, over
[49:57] hopefully they’re not accurate.
This would be, you know, over
the accurate. But you got to be
[49:58] This would be, you know, over
the accurate. But you got to be
proactively plan. Somebody be
[50:00] the accurate. But you got to be
proactively plan. Somebody be
setting up here in this seat.
[50:03] proactively plan. Somebody be
setting up here in this seat.
Most likely it may not some
[50:05] setting up here in this seat.
Most likely it may not some
abs, but we want to put this in
[50:07] Most likely it may not some
abs, but we want to put this in
a better position in 2029,
[50:09] abs, but we want to put this in
a better position in 2029,
2030, and be preparing for
[50:09] a better position in 2029,
2030, and be preparing for
that. I’d love to continue to
[50:13] 2030, and be preparing for
that. I’d love to continue to
put more in these reserves
[50:14] that. I’d love to continue to
put more in these reserves
potentially. Also look at this
[50:16] put more in these reserves
potentially. Also look at this
truck. He may be a little bit
[50:17] potentially. Also look at this
truck. He may be a little bit
differently, but I don’t I
[50:17] truck. He may be a little bit
differently, but I don’t I
don’t have what these policies
[50:19] differently, but I don’t I
don’t have what these policies
will look at right now. I’m
[50:21] don’t have what these policies
will look at right now. I’m
still trying to work right now
[50:23] will look at right now. I’m
still trying to work right now
to get us to balancing and be
[50:24] still trying to work right now
to get us to balancing and be
able to work with the reserve.
[50:25] to get us to balancing and be
able to work with the reserve.
And we’re getting very close, I
[50:26] able to work with the reserve.
And we’re getting very close, I
think, to be able to come back
[50:27] And we’re getting very close, I
think, to be able to come back
to the board with, I think some
[50:30] think, to be able to come back
to the board with, I think some
positive news on that. But it
[50:31] to the board with, I think some
positive news on that. But it
is cut me coming near about
[50:34] positive news on that. But it
is cut me coming near about
30 some months into this.
[50:35] is cut me coming near about
30 some months into this.
I’m always here a couple words
[50:39] 30 some months into this.
I’m always here a couple words
here. Duke money and then I was
[50:39] I’m always here a couple words
here. Duke money and then I was
here like this truth, you know,
[50:40] here. Duke money and then I was
here like this truth, you know,
the true of money. So those are
[50:41] here like this truth, you know,
the true of money. So those are
things that were we’re
[50:41] the true of money. So those are
things that were we’re
dependent on doing different
[50:43] things that were we’re
dependent on doing different
things with so it’s got to be
[50:45] dependent on doing different
things with so it’s got to be
careful, cautious and make sure
[50:46] things with so it’s got to be
careful, cautious and make sure
those are, you know, one time
[50:50] careful, cautious and make sure
those are, you know, one time
expenses, not reoccurring
[50:52] those are, you know, one time
expenses, not reoccurring
expenses. I know Commissioner
[50:53] expenses, not reoccurring
expenses. I know Commissioner
Card talks a lot about that and
[50:55] expenses. I know Commissioner
Card talks a lot about that and
I agree 100% of them, you know,
[50:56] Card talks a lot about that and
I agree 100% of them, you know,
the budgeting want to make sure
[50:56] I agree 100% of them, you know,
the budgeting want to make sure
we’re doing that as well that
[50:58] the budgeting want to make sure
we’re doing that as well that
we’re not. We’re putting those
[51:00] we’re doing that as well that
we’re not. We’re putting those
separately. So this but just
[51:01] we’re not. We’re putting those
separately. So this but just
don’t continue to grow at those
[51:02] separately. So this but just
don’t continue to grow at those
levels that are kind of
[51:03] don’t continue to grow at those
levels that are kind of
starting a bigger budget.
[51:04] levels that are kind of
starting a bigger budget.
We want to keep those
[51:06] starting a bigger budget.
We want to keep those
separated. So they are one-time
[51:08] We want to keep those
separated. So they are one-time
expenditures. So what a
[51:10] separated. So they are one-time
expenditures. So what a
compounding these budgets going
[51:11] expenditures. So what a
compounding these budgets going
forward. There’s a variety
[51:11] compounding these budgets going
forward. There’s a variety
things. I love to have more
[51:13] forward. There’s a variety
things. I love to have more
discussions with. You may be
[51:14] things. I love to have more
discussions with. You may be
in, you know, going into
[51:15] discussions with. You may be
in, you know, going into
January, our strategic plan
[51:16] in, you know, going into
January, our strategic plan
retreat the Sea, which model we
[51:19] January, our strategic plan
retreat the Sea, which model we
work at. And then I’d love to
[51:19] retreat the Sea, which model we
work at. And then I’d love to
have them continue with this a
[51:22] work at. And then I’d love to
have them continue with this a
little bit further along with
[51:24] have them continue with this a
little bit further along with
some of these other budgeting
[51:25] little bit further along with
some of these other budgeting
techniques actually work across
[51:25] some of these other budgeting
techniques actually work across
the country, which ones are
[51:27] techniques actually work across
the country, which ones are
working, which ones are not.
[51:29] the country, which ones are
working, which ones are not.
I’ve done a variety of mud and
[51:29] working, which ones are not.
I’ve done a variety of mud and
everything from 0 base
[51:31] I’ve done a variety of mud and
everything from 0 base
budgeting, which quite honestly
[51:33] everything from 0 base
budgeting, which quite honestly
you never started 0 yet.
[51:34] budgeting, which quite honestly
you never started 0 yet.
As a county of expenses
[51:36] you never started 0 yet.
As a county of expenses
expenses, we can’t get rid of
[51:37] As a county of expenses
expenses, we can’t get rid of
but program based budgeting,
[51:39] expenses, we can’t get rid of
but program based budgeting,
performance-based budgeting,
[51:41] but program based budgeting,
performance-based budgeting,
not what the outputs work, but
[51:42] performance-based budgeting,
not what the outputs work, but
what was the outcome as well as
[51:44] not what the outputs work, but
what was the outcome as well as
the investment was returned,
[51:45] what was the outcome as well as
the investment was returned,
investment for the dollars that
[51:47] the investment was returned,
investment for the dollars that
you spent so those are all
[51:48] investment for the dollars that
you spent so those are all
conversations are going to have
[51:49] you spent so those are all
conversations are going to have
a probably gonna have a lot
[51:49] conversations are going to have
a probably gonna have a lot
sooner based on what comes out
[51:53] a probably gonna have a lot
sooner based on what comes out
of Tallahassee. Soon.
[51:55] sooner based on what comes out
of Tallahassee. Soon.
I went around the circle with
[51:57] of Tallahassee. Soon.
I went around the circle with
him. Thanks a little too.
[52:01] I went around the circle with
him. Thanks a little too.
2 too soon to make policy
[52:01] him. Thanks a little too.
2 too soon to make policy
decisions. This point just
[52:02] 2 too soon to make policy
decisions. This point just
coming out of this with this
[52:03] decisions. This point just
coming out of this with this
data. Plus, trying to get your
[52:05] coming out of this with this
data. Plus, trying to get your
input today. Welcome to
[52:06] data. Plus, trying to get your
input today. Welcome to
terminal. We bring forward.
[52:07] input today. Welcome to
terminal. We bring forward.
We can work close with our
[52:10] terminal. We bring forward.
We can work close with our
consultants staff too. See what
[52:10] We can work close with our
consultants staff too. See what
are some some things that we
[52:12] consultants staff too. See what
are some some things that we
could actually come forward.
[52:14] are some some things that we
could actually come forward.
Some policy improvements that
[52:15] could actually come forward.
Some policy improvements that
would be Moammar forward
[52:16] Some policy improvements that
would be Moammar forward
thinking to continue to take us
[52:18] would be Moammar forward
thinking to continue to take us
into this new modeling that we
[52:21] thinking to continue to take us
into this new modeling that we
have for the future.
[52:23] into this new modeling that we
have for the future.
>> I guess my biggest concern
[52:27] have for the future.
>> I guess my biggest concern
is the citizens.
[52:27] >> I guess my biggest concern
is the citizens.
>> Have spoken very loud, very
[52:31] is the citizens.
>> Have spoken very loud, very
clearly that road resurfacing
[52:33] >> Have spoken very loud, very
clearly that road resurfacing
is at the top of their
[52:35] clearly that road resurfacing
is at the top of their
priorities. And we’re
[52:37] is at the top of their
priorities. And we’re
struggling to come up with the
[52:38] priorities. And we’re
struggling to come up with the
additional funds to kind of
[52:40] struggling to come up with the
additional funds to kind of
make it whole for the same
[52:40] additional funds to kind of
make it whole for the same
amount of money that we spent
[52:42] make it whole for the same
amount of money that we spent
this year to spend next year
[52:47] amount of money that we spent
this year to spend next year
and if I’m interpreting what
[52:48] this year to spend next year
and if I’m interpreting what
she’s saying correctly on the
[52:50] and if I’m interpreting what
she’s saying correctly on the
cash carry forward. That’s kind
[52:50] she’s saying correctly on the
cash carry forward. That’s kind
of how we’ve been balancing
[52:54] cash carry forward. That’s kind
of how we’ve been balancing
that out and we’re we’re
[52:54] of how we’ve been balancing
that out and we’re we’re
cutting into that. We’ve used
[52:58] that out and we’re we’re
cutting into that. We’ve used
that up and
[52:59] cutting into that. We’ve used
that up and
I asked what the number was
[53:01] that up and
I asked what the number was
in new growth. Just dollars for
[53:04] I asked what the number was
in new growth. Just dollars for
new growth and it was 3.2
[53:06] in new growth. Just dollars for
new growth and it was 3.2
million dollars right? So that
[53:09] new growth and it was 3.2
million dollars right? So that
took. Half a billion dollar
[53:13] million dollars right? So that
took. Half a billion dollar
worth of investment. Just to
[53:14] took. Half a billion dollar
worth of investment. Just to
get 3.2 million dollars in tax
[53:17] worth of investment. Just to
get 3.2 million dollars in tax
revenue.
[53:19] get 3.2 million dollars in tax
revenue.
When you think about like how
[53:20] revenue.
When you think about like how
many houses you have to have
[53:24] When you think about like how
many houses you have to have
for that versus maybe an
[53:25] many houses you have to have
for that versus maybe an
industrial park and our
[53:26] for that versus maybe an
industrial park and our
commercial. And then you think
[53:28] industrial park and our
commercial. And then you think
of the intrinsic values of what
[53:30] commercial. And then you think
of the intrinsic values of what
that puts back into your
[53:31] of the intrinsic values of what
that puts back into your
community for creating higher
[53:35] that puts back into your
community for creating higher
paying jobs in more wages
[53:37] community for creating higher
paying jobs in more wages
so for me, I’m looking at it.
[53:37] paying jobs in more wages
so for me, I’m looking at it.
I really do believe that we
[53:40] so for me, I’m looking at it.
I really do believe that we
have to really kind of as board
[53:41] I really do believe that we
have to really kind of as board
policy start to focus on some.
[53:46] have to really kind of as board
policy start to focus on some.
Revenue diversification from
[53:48] policy start to focus on some.
Revenue diversification from
now. What are we? What are we
[53:52] Revenue diversification from
now. What are we? What are we
trying to attract into our
[53:52] now. What are we? What are we
trying to attract into our
community thinking only about a
[53:53] trying to attract into our
community thinking only about a
half percent. You’re this
[53:53] community thinking only about a
half percent. You’re this
industrial center that you’re
[53:56] half percent. You’re this
industrial center that you’re
challenging. Pardon.
[53:56] industrial center that you’re
challenging. Pardon.
>> Exemptions and all those
[53:58] challenging. Pardon.
>> Exemptions and all those
things are very difficult.
[53:59] >> Exemptions and all those
things are very difficult.
And then you have all these
[54:00] things are very difficult.
And then you have all these
cars drivers. I went back and
[54:00] And then you have all these
cars drivers. I went back and
looked over the last decade at
[54:03] cars drivers. I went back and
looked over the last decade at
one time. You’re only put
[54:04] looked over the last decade at
one time. You’re only put
2 million dollars a year for
[54:07] one time. You’re only put
2 million dollars a year for
road resurfacing Patel. You’ve
[54:08] 2 million dollars a year for
road resurfacing Patel. You’ve
got, you know, 2000 miles
[54:09] road resurfacing Patel. You’ve
got, you know, 2000 miles
through this, a lot of roots
[54:13] got, you know, 2000 miles
through this, a lot of roots
so we definitely have an issue
[54:14] through this, a lot of roots
so we definitely have an issue
with all those things. And of
[54:16] so we definitely have an issue
with all those things. And of
course, you’re competing every
[54:16] with all those things. And of
course, you’re competing every
year for expenses, utilities
[54:20] course, you’re competing every
year for expenses, utilities
have doubled costs of health
[54:22] year for expenses, utilities
have doubled costs of health
care is to all these.
[54:22] have doubled costs of health
care is to all these.
Everything’s is going up.
[54:23] care is to all these.
Everything’s is going up.
Property liability insurance,
[54:25] Everything’s is going up.
Property liability insurance,
all those things. So this very
[54:29] Property liability insurance,
all those things. So this very
difficult yes, with the issues
[54:29] all those things. So this very
difficult yes, with the issues
that are facing here, some of
[54:31] difficult yes, with the issues
that are facing here, some of
the challenges. But with
[54:32] that are facing here, some of
the challenges. But with
challenges as opportunities.
[54:35] the challenges. But with
challenges as opportunities.
I think we have to think
[54:37] challenges as opportunities.
I think we have to think
differently and you have to
[54:37] I think we have to think
differently and you have to
kind of look at the Mir with
[54:39] differently and you have to
kind of look at the Mir with
the Staten saying he’s already
[54:41] kind of look at the Mir with
the Staten saying he’s already
either just look at a jury,
[54:44] the Staten saying he’s already
either just look at a jury,
do something with it. And
[54:45] either just look at a jury,
do something with it. And
proactively try to take steps
[54:46] do something with it. And
proactively try to take steps
to execute the future. And she
[54:48] proactively try to take steps
to execute the future. And she
was struck. She can go on so
[54:49] to execute the future. And she
was struck. She can go on so
I think this is all good.
[54:51] was struck. She can go on so
I think this is all good.
Good conversation at good
[54:53] I think this is all good.
Good conversation at good
information. Moving forward.
[54:54] Good conversation at good
information. Moving forward.
But like you said, you have
[54:56] information. Moving forward.
But like you said, you have
to defer to diversify the
[54:58] But like you said, you have
to defer to diversify the
economy, which is difficult.
[54:59] to defer to diversify the
economy, which is difficult.
We just came from a town hall
[55:03] economy, which is difficult.
We just came from a town hall
meeting and Floral city.
[55:03] We just came from a town hall
meeting and Floral city.
So you’re balancing that out of
[55:04] meeting and Floral city.
So you’re balancing that out of
time to talk to people have a
[55:06] So you’re balancing that out of
time to talk to people have a
little bit of fun with them
[55:08] time to talk to people have a
little bit of fun with them
and say you like those Texas
[55:10] little bit of fun with them
and say you like those Texas
Roadhouse and they all say yes
[55:12] and say you like those Texas
Roadhouse and they all say yes
and a lot of times I asked a
[55:12] Roadhouse and they all say yes
and a lot of times I asked a
lie-in some of the guys you
[55:14] and a lot of times I asked a
lie-in some of the guys you
like Hobby Lobby and they say,
[55:15] lie-in some of the guys you
like Hobby Lobby and they say,
yes, I like that about 5 guys.
[55:18] like Hobby Lobby and they say,
yes, I like that about 5 guys.
The burger there. Yes. So I say
[55:20] yes, I like that about 5 guys.
The burger there. Yes. So I say
what we call that we call that
[55:22] The burger there. Yes. So I say
what we call that we call that
groove. And then I got another
[55:23] what we call that we call that
groove. And then I got another
e-mail from another citizen us
[55:25] groove. And then I got another
e-mail from another citizen us
as I’m concerned about my
[55:26] e-mail from another citizen us
as I’m concerned about my
medical doctor had over 30
[55:28] as I’m concerned about my
medical doctor had over 30
years and they’re leaving well,
[55:30] medical doctor had over 30
years and they’re leaving well,
how do we, you know, employee
[55:30] years and they’re leaving well,
how do we, you know, employee
other doctors in this
[55:32] how do we, you know, employee
other doctors in this
community, things like that.
[55:33] other doctors in this
community, things like that.
He’s got the quality of life
[55:34] community, things like that.
He’s got the quality of life
and issues and things like
[55:35] He’s got the quality of life
and issues and things like
that. And then a seat on the
[55:38] and issues and things like
that. And then a seat on the
industrial side. You have to
[55:38] that. And then a seat on the
industrial side. You have to
have competitive advantage to
[55:42] industrial side. You have to
have competitive advantage to
bring industry to this
[55:43] have competitive advantage to
bring industry to this
community. So they’re looking
[55:43] bring industry to this
community. So they’re looking
for a lot of things. So it’s a
[55:46] community. So they’re looking
for a lot of things. So it’s a
balancing act and this is not
[55:48] for a lot of things. So it’s a
balancing act and this is not
you need unique to this
[55:49] balancing act and this is not
you need unique to this
government. They’re facing
[55:50] you need unique to this
government. They’re facing
these challenges across the
[55:51] government. They’re facing
these challenges across the
state. I can tell you that my
[55:55] these challenges across the
state. I can tell you that my
colleagues so and you say, I
[55:55] state. I can tell you that my
colleagues so and you say, I
think the light at the end of
[55:57] colleagues so and you say, I
think the light at the end of
tunnel continues to be bright.
[55:57] think the light at the end of
tunnel continues to be bright.
But we just got to remain
[56:01] tunnel continues to be bright.
But we just got to remain
focused and diligent and, you
[56:01] But we just got to remain
focused and diligent and, you
know, take this and use these
[56:04] focused and diligent and, you
know, take this and use these
tools that have proactively to
[56:04] know, take this and use these
tools that have proactively to
the community and community
[56:06] tools that have proactively to
the community and community
communicate that out to the
[56:10] the community and community
communicate that out to the
public in everything costs
[56:11] communicate that out to the
public in everything costs
money. I wish it was didn’t
[56:12] public in everything costs
money. I wish it was didn’t
cost money, which to double.
[56:14] money. I wish it was didn’t
cost money, which to double.
But based on your analysis
[56:15] cost money, which to double.
But based on your analysis
here, you continue to see a lot
[56:19] But based on your analysis
here, you continue to see a lot
of things need to to be taken
[56:19] here, you continue to see a lot
of things need to to be taken
care of, correct. And things
[56:22] of things need to to be taken
care of, correct. And things
like that. And that’s only a
[56:22] care of, correct. And things
like that. And that’s only a
little bit of a bite at Apple
[56:23] like that. And that’s only a
little bit of a bite at Apple
that we can actually
[56:25] little bit of a bite at Apple
that we can actually
proactively do so I’m excited
[56:27] that we can actually
proactively do so I’m excited
about going forward working
[56:29] proactively do so I’m excited
about going forward working
with this board for policy
[56:30] about going forward working
with this board for policy
improvements and to continue to
[56:32] with this board for policy
improvements and to continue to
communicate that with the
[56:33] improvements and to continue to
communicate that with the
public. Some of the needs that
[56:35] communicate that with the
public. Some of the needs that
we have. But we’re making
[56:37] public. Some of the needs that
we have. But we’re making
progress. But there’s going to
[56:37] we have. But we’re making
progress. But there’s going to
cost. So she thought that it is
[56:38] progress. But there’s going to
cost. So she thought that it is
a look at our numbers. I think
[56:43] cost. So she thought that it is
a look at our numbers. I think
2 years, almost 300% increasing
[56:44] a look at our numbers. I think
2 years, almost 300% increasing
to s*** women on a new expenses
[56:45] 2 years, almost 300% increasing
to s*** women on a new expenses
and things like that. All these
[56:47] to s*** women on a new expenses
and things like that. All these
things are the team to go
[56:48] and things like that. All these
things are the team to go
messing anything going down.
[56:51] things are the team to go
messing anything going down.
I’d also commissioner Kerik.
[56:58] messing anything going down.
I’d also commissioner Kerik.
Administrator. I have a
[56:59] I’d also commissioner Kerik.
Administrator. I have a
question.
[56:59] Administrator. I have a
question.
>> Having been to the meetings
[57:00] question.
>> Having been to the meetings
last weekend with the
[57:04] >> Having been to the meetings
last weekend with the
legislators and there they’re
[57:07] last weekend with the
legislators and there they’re
talking property taxes are
[57:08] legislators and there they’re
talking property taxes are
going to be going down for all
[57:11] talking property taxes are
going to be going down for all
the citizens in the state.
[57:13] going to be going down for all
the citizens in the state.
With that may be going away
[57:15] the citizens in the state.
With that may be going away
completely. And then coming up
[57:18] With that may be going away
completely. And then coming up
with a different way to to get
[57:21] completely. And then coming up
with a different way to to get
money for the counties. Can you
[57:24] with a different way to to get
money for the counties. Can you
at this point? Come up with.
[57:28] money for the counties. Can you
at this point? Come up with.
A number. Did we could see
[57:31] at this point? Come up with.
A number. Did we could see
physically?
[57:33] A number. Did we could see
physically?
We if they were to take in
[57:34] physically?
We if they were to take in
everything was everybody was at
[57:38] We if they were to take in
everything was everybody was at
500,000 or up with the only
[57:40] everything was everybody was at
500,000 or up with the only
property taxpayers. In other
[57:40] 500,000 or up with the only
property taxpayers. In other
words, that’s the numbers that
[57:41] property taxpayers. In other
words, that’s the numbers that
were thrown at me at the
[57:44] words, that’s the numbers that
were thrown at me at the
meetings. I went to. They’re
[57:45] were thrown at me at the
meetings. I went to. They’re
considering anything. $500,000
[57:47] meetings. I went to. They’re
considering anything. $500,000
property value lower. They 0.
[57:51] considering anything. $500,000
property value lower. They 0.
That nominates a lot of things
[57:53] property value lower. They 0.
That nominates a lot of things
in our county. So I’m looking.
[57:58] That nominates a lot of things
in our county. So I’m looking.
Forward and I’m saying, OK,
[57:59] in our county. So I’m looking.
Forward and I’m saying, OK,
what is the possibility when
[58:00] Forward and I’m saying, OK,
what is the possibility when
they pass this next year?
[58:03] what is the possibility when
they pass this next year?
How much money are we actually
[58:03] they pass this next year?
How much money are we actually
going to have to work with?
[58:06] How much money are we actually
going to have to work with?
You know, that’s a forecast and
[58:07] going to have to work with?
You know, that’s a forecast and
I’d like to see how much will
[58:11] You know, that’s a forecast and
I’d like to see how much will
we have? I don’t going to take
[58:12] I’d like to see how much will
we have? I don’t going to take
time to do it. But could you
[58:16] we have? I don’t going to take
time to do it. But could you
possibly do that? We will do
[58:16] time to do it. But could you
possibly do that? We will do
our very best, OK? Thank you.
[58:20] possibly do that? We will do
our very best, OK? Thank you.
>> I think that’s a discussion.
[58:21] our very best, OK? Thank you.
>> I think that’s a discussion.
I don’t think that I was in
[58:22] >> I think that’s a discussion.
I don’t think that I was in
Tallahassee couple weeks ago
[58:24] I don’t think that I was in
Tallahassee couple weeks ago
and I’m not gonna name names,
[58:26] Tallahassee couple weeks ago
and I’m not gonna name names,
but somebody was in there with
[58:28] and I’m not gonna name names,
but somebody was in there with
a group of U.S. County managers
[58:28] but somebody was in there with
a group of U.S. County managers
and they said they’ve never
[58:32] a group of U.S. County managers
and they said they’ve never
seen a time in Florida has now
[58:33] and they said they’ve never
seen a time in Florida has now
where we have folks trying to
[58:35] seen a time in Florida has now
where we have folks trying to
make decisions that have no
[58:37] where we have folks trying to
make decisions that have no
boots on the ground and local
[58:39] make decisions that have no
boots on the ground and local
government because what we do
[58:39] boots on the ground and local
government because what we do
with our corrections, I mean,
[58:43] government because what we do
with our corrections, I mean,
all those folks, what do we
[58:43] with our corrections, I mean,
all those folks, what do we
know? Pay sheriff’s office?
[58:44] all those folks, what do we
know? Pay sheriff’s office?
You know, you said that you
[58:46] know? Pay sheriff’s office?
You know, you said that you
wouldn’t have any law
[58:47] You know, you said that you
wouldn’t have any law
enforcement. No public works.
[58:48] wouldn’t have any law
enforcement. No public works.
All the roads you want to do
[58:49] enforcement. No public works.
All the roads you want to do
actual we’re balancing know
[58:51] All the roads you want to do
actual we’re balancing know
that’s general fund money that
[58:52] actual we’re balancing know
that’s general fund money that
we’re doing road resurfacing
[58:54] that’s general fund money that
we’re doing road resurfacing
with the news. 5 Million.
[58:54] we’re doing road resurfacing
with the news. 5 Million.
So it’s all those things.
[58:56] with the news. 5 Million.
So it’s all those things.
In the end of the day, if that
[58:59] So it’s all those things.
In the end of the day, if that
people doing this work. So it’s
[59:00] In the end of the day, if that
people doing this work. So it’s
it’s all got to get done to see
[59:01] people doing this work. So it’s
it’s all got to get done to see
to make a decision when you
[59:02] it’s all got to get done to see
to make a decision when you
don’t have any responsibility
[59:04] to make a decision when you
don’t have any responsibility
or after see what the thing is
[59:06] don’t have any responsibility
or after see what the thing is
and that that’s that’s not
[59:06] or after see what the thing is
and that that’s that’s not
good. Some hopeful. I’m hopeful
[59:08] and that that’s that’s not
good. Some hopeful. I’m hopeful
that the better mines will come
[59:11] good. Some hopeful. I’m hopeful
that the better mines will come
together in the our friends in
[59:12] that the better mines will come
together in the our friends in
Tallahassee will rethink some
[59:14] together in the our friends in
Tallahassee will rethink some
of these these decision points.
[59:15] Tallahassee will rethink some
of these these decision points.
And then diversify because you
[59:16] of these these decision points.
And then diversify because you
still got to pay the bills.
[59:18] And then diversify because you
still got to pay the bills.
We’ve got to pay for all these
[59:21] still got to pay the bills.
We’ve got to pay for all these
services and the very public.
[59:23] We’ve got to pay for all these
services and the very public.
And that means one this board
[59:24] services and the very public.
And that means one this board
to be able to do some things.
[59:26] And that means one this board
to be able to do some things.
This board’s being handcuffed.
[59:27] to be able to do some things.
This board’s being handcuffed.
I mean, is taking your take on
[59:29] This board’s being handcuffed.
I mean, is taking your take on
local control away, which is
[59:30] I mean, is taking your take on
local control away, which is
bad. This is job stressful
[59:33] local control away, which is
bad. This is job stressful
enough are ready to to all the
[59:34] bad. This is job stressful
enough are ready to to all the
stuff that we’re doing now
[59:35] enough are ready to to all the
stuff that we’re doing now
without somebody you don’t have
[59:39] stuff that we’re doing now
without somebody you don’t have
any funds to do, do this works?
[59:40] without somebody you don’t have
any funds to do, do this works?
I don’t. I don’t think it’s
[59:40] any funds to do, do this works?
I don’t. I don’t think it’s
gonna work out real good as it
[59:42] I don’t. I don’t think it’s
gonna work out real good as it
could be a good good ending.
[59:44] gonna work out real good as it
could be a good good ending.
I think with that. So hopefully
[59:47] could be a good good ending.
I think with that. So hopefully
better folks will think through
[59:47] I think with that. So hopefully
better folks will think through
that a little bit and words
[59:50] better folks will think through
that a little bit and words
that come from. And if you look
[59:51] that a little bit and words
that come from. And if you look
at that, you look at that that
[59:54] that come from. And if you look
at that, you look at that that
we’re not based totally on
[59:55] at that, you look at that that
we’re not based totally on
property taxes. What you’re
[59:56] we’re not based totally on
property taxes. What you’re
looking at that the general
[59:57] property taxes. What you’re
looking at that the general
fund money. I came forward with
[59:58] looking at that the general
fund money. I came forward with
his buddy dollars in new
[1:00:01] fund money. I came forward with
his buddy dollars in new
revenues. But her expenses over
[1:00:02] his buddy dollars in new
revenues. But her expenses over
13 Million. Meantime, having to
[1:00:04] revenues. But her expenses over
13 Million. Meantime, having to
balance all that out and you
[1:00:05] 13 Million. Meantime, having to
balance all that out and you
have 30,000 more population
[1:00:08] balance all that out and you
have 30,000 more population
than you had many years ago.
[1:00:10] have 30,000 more population
than you had many years ago.
You have less employees today
[1:00:12] than you had many years ago.
You have less employees today
and you had back in. 0, 708.
[1:00:13] You have less employees today
and you had back in. 0, 708.
So in fact, you’re actually
[1:00:16] and you had back in. 0, 708.
So in fact, you’re actually
doing this with less. But, you
[1:00:17] So in fact, you’re actually
doing this with less. But, you
know, the services are going
[1:00:17] doing this with less. But, you
know, the services are going
continue to go up. The demands
[1:00:19] know, the services are going
continue to go up. The demands
are going to go up. All those
[1:00:21] continue to go up. The demands
are going to go up. All those
things and when you say and
[1:00:24] are going to go up. All those
things and when you say and
moved to Florida, keep Florida
[1:00:24] things and when you say and
moved to Florida, keep Florida
free. Well, it’s not free for
[1:00:26] moved to Florida, keep Florida
free. Well, it’s not free for
any this local service,
[1:00:27] free. Well, it’s not free for
any this local service,
something our good friends I
[1:00:29] any this local service,
something our good friends I
think is walking the judges.
[1:00:30] something our good friends I
think is walking the judges.
All these things they have to
[1:00:31] think is walking the judges.
All these things they have to
do the courtrooms. All the
[1:00:33] All these things they have to
do the courtrooms. All the
expenses are the board has to
[1:00:35] do the courtrooms. All the
expenses are the board has to
do. It’s all F bombs. It’s
[1:00:36] expenses are the board has to
do. It’s all F bombs. It’s
expensive to do all this work.
[1:00:39] do. It’s all F bombs. It’s
expensive to do all this work.
Some hopeful that bill they’ll
[1:00:41] expensive to do all this work.
Some hopeful that bill they’ll
consider our thoughts into
[1:00:43] Some hopeful that bill they’ll
consider our thoughts into
this. We have real meaningful
[1:00:44] consider our thoughts into
this. We have real meaningful
dialogue and we don’t do what a
[1:00:46] this. We have real meaningful
dialogue and we don’t do what a
lot of governments have done
[1:00:47] dialogue and we don’t do what a
lot of governments have done
and other places around the
[1:00:50] lot of governments have done
and other places around the
country says attack shift and
[1:00:51] and other places around the
country says attack shift and
that’s something that I hope
[1:00:54] country says attack shift and
that’s something that I hope
doesn’t happen. So.
[1:00:56] that’s something that I hope
doesn’t happen. So.
>> I think they’ve figured out
[1:01:00] doesn’t happen. So.
>> I think they’ve figured out
putting I public hearing to
[1:01:00] >> I think they’ve figured out
putting I public hearing to
my colleague, I was in the
[1:01:01] putting I public hearing to
my colleague, I was in the
other room. So I’ll share shout
[1:01:03] my colleague, I was in the
other room. So I’ll share shout
out yet.
[1:01:03] other room. So I’ll share shout
out yet.
>> Is there a way to share this
[1:01:06] out yet.
>> Is there a way to share this
screen?
[1:01:10] >> Is there a way to share this
screen?
Okay. It started there. Thank
[1:01:12] screen?
Okay. It started there. Thank
you. Okay. I so if you can
[1:01:12] Okay. It started there. Thank
you. Okay. I so if you can
scroll down a little bit.
[1:01:15] you. Okay. I so if you can
scroll down a little bit.
This is the baseline tab and
[1:01:16] scroll down a little bit.
This is the baseline tab and
you’ll see it’s organized by
[1:01:17] This is the baseline tab and
you’ll see it’s organized by
various categories showing your
[1:01:19] you’ll see it’s organized by
various categories showing your
total revenues a pause their I
[1:01:23] various categories showing your
total revenues a pause their I
o U C your total revenues and
[1:01:23] total revenues a pause their I
o U C your total revenues and
then your revenues. Plus that
[1:01:25] o U C your total revenues and
then your revenues. Plus that
carryforward coming into
[1:01:26] then your revenues. Plus that
carryforward coming into
account. I feel scroll down a
[1:01:29] carryforward coming into
account. I feel scroll down a
little bit.
[1:01:30] account. I feel scroll down a
little bit.
We can see that. You know, yet
[1:01:31] little bit.
We can see that. You know, yet
if you can zoom in, I’ll please
[1:01:37] We can see that. You know, yet
if you can zoom in, I’ll please
as well. Maybe one more.
[1:01:39] if you can zoom in, I’ll please
as well. Maybe one more.
So scrolling down. You’ll see
[1:01:42] as well. Maybe one more.
So scrolling down. You’ll see
the various different elected
[1:01:43] So scrolling down. You’ll see
the various different elected
offices. If you can continue
[1:01:46] the various different elected
offices. If you can continue
scrolling. We’ll get to the
[1:01:48] offices. If you can continue
scrolling. We’ll get to the
bottom of the county’s personal
[1:01:51] scrolling. We’ll get to the
bottom of the county’s personal
expenses expenses. So here’s
[1:01:54] bottom of the county’s personal
expenses expenses. So here’s
where you’ll see your total
[1:01:55] expenses expenses. So here’s
where you’ll see your total
expenditures. And and then that
[1:01:56] where you’ll see your total
expenditures. And and then that
growing surplus deficit towards
[1:01:59] expenditures. And and then that
growing surplus deficit towards
the out years. And then along
[1:02:01] growing surplus deficit towards
the out years. And then along
with your ending fund balance
[1:02:02] the out years. And then along
with your ending fund balance
has that surplus continues to
[1:02:03] with your ending fund balance
has that surplus continues to
grow its starting into the
[1:02:06] has that surplus continues to
grow its starting into the
ending Fund balance. And then
[1:02:07] grow its starting into the
ending Fund balance. And then
as being if you scroll down a
[1:02:10] ending Fund balance. And then
as being if you scroll down a
little bit thank you. You see
[1:02:12] as being if you scroll down a
little bit thank you. You see
or serve budget fund balance
[1:02:14] little bit thank you. You see
or serve budget fund balance
policy to ring up to that 15%
[1:02:15] or serve budget fund balance
policy to ring up to that 15%
and then being reallocated back
[1:02:18] policy to ring up to that 15%
and then being reallocated back
into your carryforward. If you
[1:02:18] and then being reallocated back
into your carryforward. If you
go the initiative manager,
[1:02:21] into your carryforward. If you
go the initiative manager,
please.
[1:02:24] go the initiative manager,
please.
So this is that that have that
[1:02:24] please.
So this is that that have that
we’re referencing where we’ve
[1:02:25] So this is that that have that
we’re referencing where we’ve
already preloaded in a bunch
[1:02:28] we’re referencing where we’ve
already preloaded in a bunch
of the various projects
[1:02:30] already preloaded in a bunch
of the various projects
initiatives, potential things
[1:02:31] of the various projects
initiatives, potential things
that we’ve heard from
[1:02:33] initiatives, potential things
that we’ve heard from
conversations with the county
[1:02:35] that we’ve heard from
conversations with the county
team. You’ll see at the top.
[1:02:36] conversations with the county
team. You’ll see at the top.
It’s got that same fund balance
[1:02:38] team. You’ll see at the top.
It’s got that same fund balance
for men that you all have been
[1:02:38] It’s got that same fund balance
for men that you all have been
seeing over the course of the
[1:02:41] for men that you all have been
seeing over the course of the
presentation.
[1:02:44] seeing over the course of the
presentation.
>> I can’t see any of that.
[1:02:45] presentation.
>> I can’t see any of that.
Yeah. So it’s not. Yeah.
[1:02:46] >> I can’t see any of that.
Yeah. So it’s not. Yeah.
He said that he able to get
[1:02:47] Yeah. So it’s not. Yeah.
He said that he able to get
this. The county hasn’t.
[1:02:50] He said that he able to get
this. The county hasn’t.
Yes, this is yours.
[1:02:52] this. The county hasn’t.
Yes, this is yours.
>> But if you focus in on that
[1:02:54] Yes, this is yours.
>> But if you focus in on that
top bar, so all turn on a
[1:02:55] >> But if you focus in on that
top bar, so all turn on a
couple things. But if you focus
[1:02:58] top bar, so all turn on a
couple things. But if you focus
on the very top graphic, the
[1:02:59] couple things. But if you focus
on the very top graphic, the
top Iowa, you turn on animal
[1:03:03] on the very top graphic, the
top Iowa, you turn on animal
Services building.
[1:03:05] top Iowa, you turn on animal
Services building.
You see the fiscal impact of
[1:03:07] Services building.
You see the fiscal impact of
funding that project and then
[1:03:09] You see the fiscal impact of
funding that project and then
if you scroll down and turn on
[1:03:11] funding that project and then
if you scroll down and turn on
while keeping on the animal
[1:03:13] if you scroll down and turn on
while keeping on the animal
services. It’s alright because
[1:03:15] while keeping on the animal
services. It’s alright because
we can’t see anything anything.
[1:03:17] services. It’s alright because
we can’t see anything anything.
So it’s it’s a yeah, it is.
[1:03:18] we can’t see anything anything.
So it’s it’s a yeah, it is.
It is a dynamic. Like I said,
[1:03:20] So it’s it’s a yeah, it is.
It is a dynamic. Like I said,
it’s a dynamic tool where
[1:03:20] It is a dynamic. Like I said,
it’s a dynamic tool where
>> you turn. The switch is on.
[1:03:22] it’s a dynamic tool where
>> you turn. The switch is on.
You see the fiscal impact over
[1:03:24] >> you turn. The switch is on.
You see the fiscal impact over
time and the county has the
[1:03:26] You see the fiscal impact over
time and the county has the
ability to easily drop an
[1:03:27] time and the county has the
ability to easily drop an
additional projects. So there’s
[1:03:30] ability to easily drop an
additional projects. So there’s
probably 150 different lines of
[1:03:32] additional projects. So there’s
probably 150 different lines of
places of items scenario is
[1:03:34] probably 150 different lines of
places of items scenario is
that you all can incorporate in
[1:03:35] places of items scenario is
that you all can incorporate in
there and then have the ability
[1:03:36] that you all can incorporate in
there and then have the ability
and will be working with staff
[1:03:37] there and then have the ability
and will be working with staff
later today to get them trained
[1:03:40] and will be working with staff
later today to get them trained
up on the model. And as Mister
[1:03:41] later today to get them trained
up on the model. And as Mister
Howard said, we’re around.
[1:03:43] up on the model. And as Mister
Howard said, we’re around.
So if you have questions, if
[1:03:45] Howard said, we’re around.
So if you have questions, if
there’s needs, we’re happy to
[1:03:46] So if you have questions, if
there’s needs, we’re happy to
be able to fulfill those with
[1:03:48] there’s needs, we’re happy to
be able to fulfill those with
you all. Very good. Thank you
[1:03:49] be able to fulfill those with
you all. Very good. Thank you
so much. And Commissioner
[1:03:49] you all. Very good. Thank you
so much. And Commissioner
Pentagon, I believe you had a
[1:03:52] so much. And Commissioner
Pentagon, I believe you had a
question.
[1:03:53] Pentagon, I believe you had a
question.
>> I didn’t. I was just
[1:03:55] question.
>> I didn’t. I was just
falling, Mr. Howard you know,
[1:03:55] >> I didn’t. I was just
falling, Mr. Howard you know,
attack shift and I know you
[1:03:58] falling, Mr. Howard you know,
attack shift and I know you
have mentioned this a lot.
[1:03:59] attack shift and I know you
have mentioned this a lot.
Commissioner.
[1:03:59] have mentioned this a lot.
Commissioner.
>> You know, if it came to a
[1:04:02] Commissioner.
>> You know, if it came to a
greater reduction property
[1:04:03] >> You know, if it came to a
greater reduction property
taxes, people would still have
[1:04:04] greater reduction property
taxes, people would still have
to pay would be a shift just to
[1:04:06] taxes, people would still have
to pay would be a shift just to
everybody over the 500,000.
[1:04:07] to pay would be a shift just to
everybody over the 500,000.
It would we would have Dennis
[1:04:10] everybody over the 500,000.
It would we would have Dennis
View everything and then no
[1:04:12] It would we would have Dennis
View everything and then no
one wants to pull exemptions
[1:04:14] View everything and then no
one wants to pull exemptions
off. You know, it’s not been
[1:04:16] one wants to pull exemptions
off. You know, it’s not been
popular about people that
[1:04:18] off. You know, it’s not been
popular about people that
really paid no taxes, but
[1:04:18] popular about people that
really paid no taxes, but
that’s I’ve fear. That’s what
[1:04:20] really paid no taxes, but
that’s I’ve fear. That’s what
it would have to come to.
[1:04:24] that’s I’ve fear. That’s what
it would have to come to.
Everybody would be paying 4
[1:04:24] it would have to come to.
Everybody would be paying 4
police officers. Everyone would
[1:04:25] Everybody would be paying 4
police officers. Everyone would
be paying for fire. Everyone
[1:04:27] police officers. Everyone would
be paying for fire. Everyone
would be paying for.
[1:04:31] be paying for fire. Everyone
would be paying for.
>> The the the thing that makes
[1:04:34] would be paying for.
>> The the the thing that makes
that tough is yet in St use
[1:04:34] >> The the the thing that makes
that tough is yet in St use
which follow ad Valorem and
[1:04:36] that tough is yet in St use
which follow ad Valorem and
the exemptions.
[1:04:39] which follow ad Valorem and
the exemptions.
>> And then you have msbu so
[1:04:42] the exemptions.
>> And then you have msbu so
that how you can apply them
[1:04:43] >> And then you have msbu so
that how you can apply them
work different. And every thing
[1:04:44] that how you can apply them
work different. And every thing
that we would have to pull out,
[1:04:47] work different. And every thing
that we would have to pull out,
we would which. I don’t like
[1:04:48] that we would have to pull out,
we would which. I don’t like
because I do feel like it’s a
[1:04:48] we would which. I don’t like
because I do feel like it’s a
tech shift and it all comes
[1:04:51] because I do feel like it’s a
tech shift and it all comes
with a cost.
[1:04:52] tech shift and it all comes
with a cost.
>> You know, we have to hire
[1:04:52] with a cost.
>> You know, we have to hire
people to figure that all out
[1:04:54] >> You know, we have to hire
people to figure that all out
to make it legal. So if that
[1:04:58] people to figure that all out
to make it legal. So if that
does happen, people will not be
[1:05:00] to make it legal. So if that
does happen, people will not be
free. I think of paying
[1:05:01] does happen, people will not be
free. I think of paying
anything, but it would be very
[1:05:02] free. I think of paying
anything, but it would be very
expensive to the community.
[1:05:08] anything, but it would be very
expensive to the community.
To shift that back around.
[1:05:10] expensive to the community.
To shift that back around.
>> We say sometimes I’m amaka.
[1:05:12] To shift that back around.
>> We say sometimes I’m amaka.
I was in Tallahassee and to me
[1:05:13] >> We say sometimes I’m amaka.
I was in Tallahassee and to me
and told me I’m not going to
[1:05:15] I was in Tallahassee and to me
and told me I’m not going to
point out, but they some folks
[1:05:17] and told me I’m not going to
point out, but they some folks
sometimes are given the rest to
[1:05:19] point out, but they some folks
sometimes are given the rest to
draw course sometimes. Is it
[1:05:20] sometimes are given the rest to
draw course sometimes. Is it
looking like a camel? They
[1:05:22] draw course sometimes. Is it
looking like a camel? They
didn’t mean that. But that’s
[1:05:23] looking like a camel? They
didn’t mean that. But that’s
what they get at the end of
[1:05:26] didn’t mean that. But that’s
what they get at the end of
its. I hope the whatever
[1:05:27] what they get at the end of
its. I hope the whatever
they’re trying to draw that
[1:05:28] its. I hope the whatever
they’re trying to draw that
they draw correctly and it
[1:05:30] they’re trying to draw that
they draw correctly and it
doesn’t impact us. No harm us
[1:05:32] they draw correctly and it
doesn’t impact us. No harm us
because we don’t want to hurt
[1:05:33] doesn’t impact us. No harm us
because we don’t want to hurt
us in some fun that will
[1:05:35] because we don’t want to hurt
us in some fun that will
continue to work with our our
[1:05:37] us in some fun that will
continue to work with our our
friends in Tallahassee and the
[1:05:39] continue to work with our our
friends in Tallahassee and the
we’ll continue to find a better
[1:05:42] friends in Tallahassee and the
we’ll continue to find a better
path forward. That doesn’t hurt
[1:05:43] we’ll continue to find a better
path forward. That doesn’t hurt
anyone.
[1:05:43] path forward. That doesn’t hurt
anyone.
>> Well, we have roughly what?
[1:05:44] anyone.
>> Well, we have roughly what?
45 million dollars in state
[1:05:49] >> Well, we have roughly what?
45 million dollars in state
mandates that. I think the
[1:05:49] 45 million dollars in state
mandates that. I think the
lion’s share of that comes out
[1:05:51] mandates that. I think the
lion’s share of that comes out
of ad valorem. So I’d be very
[1:05:51] lion’s share of that comes out
of ad valorem. So I’d be very
open a lot in a few discussion
[1:05:53] of ad valorem. So I’d be very
open a lot in a few discussion
of the dose team. I think
[1:05:56] open a lot in a few discussion
of the dose team. I think
they’re going to rebrand the
[1:05:57] of the dose team. I think
they’re going to rebrand the
name. I’m always open to cost
[1:05:59] they’re going to rebrand the
name. I’m always open to cost
saving opportunities,
[1:06:00] name. I’m always open to cost
saving opportunities,
opportunities for more I’ve got
[1:06:03] saving opportunities,
opportunities for more I’ve got
a lot of thoughts on that
[1:06:04] opportunities for more I’ve got
a lot of thoughts on that
statewide.
[1:06:04] a lot of thoughts on that
statewide.
>> I actually had a little bit
[1:06:05] statewide.
>> I actually had a little bit
of a background purchasing and
[1:06:07] >> I actually had a little bit
of a background purchasing and
things like that. The past,
[1:06:10] of a background purchasing and
things like that. The past,
I think there are
[1:06:11] things like that. The past,
I think there are
opportunities. 2 U.S. have to
[1:06:13] I think there are
opportunities. 2 U.S. have to
tax dollars actually even be
[1:06:15] opportunities. 2 U.S. have to
tax dollars actually even be
more efficient, more effective.
[1:06:17] tax dollars actually even be
more efficient, more effective.
But I think you can do that on
[1:06:18] more efficient, more effective.
But I think you can do that on
a statewide basis. Some
[1:06:19] But I think you can do that on
a statewide basis. Some
programs and things like that.
[1:06:20] a statewide basis. Some
programs and things like that.
So I think there’s some upper
[1:06:22] programs and things like that.
So I think there’s some upper
teens are efficiencies all in.
[1:06:24] So I think there’s some upper
teens are efficiencies all in.
I told us what we want most.
[1:06:26] teens are efficiencies all in.
I told us what we want most.
The technology advancements
[1:06:27] I told us what we want most.
The technology advancements
improvements. The first one
[1:06:27] The technology advancements
improvements. The first one
is going to roll up my sleeves.
[1:06:28] improvements. The first one
is going to roll up my sleeves.
Actually. I think we were the
[1:06:31] is going to roll up my sleeves.
Actually. I think we were the
on the first of 3 counties that
[1:06:34] Actually. I think we were the
on the first of 3 counties that
voluntarily went forward and
[1:06:35] on the first of 3 counties that
voluntarily went forward and
said, you know, we’ve given him
[1:06:35] voluntarily went forward and
said, you know, we’ve given him
all the debt and things like
[1:06:36] said, you know, we’ve given him
all the debt and things like
that. So I’m excited about
[1:06:37] all the debt and things like
that. So I’m excited about
that. Those kind of
[1:06:39] that. So I’m excited about
that. Those kind of
opportunities and welcome those
[1:06:39] that. Those kind of
opportunities and welcome those
opportunities that I think when
[1:06:41] opportunities and welcome those
opportunities that I think when
they get here, I kind of had
[1:06:44] opportunities that I think when
they get here, I kind of had
discussions with them. I hope
[1:06:46] they get here, I kind of had
discussions with them. I hope
they find money. I found I
[1:06:47] discussions with them. I hope
they find money. I found I
haven’t felt all the surplus
[1:06:48] they find money. I found I
haven’t felt all the surplus
and everything like that.
[1:06:48] haven’t felt all the surplus
and everything like that.
That the state is enjoying
[1:06:51] and everything like that.
That the state is enjoying
right now at this point.
[1:06:52] That the state is enjoying
right now at this point.
So I welcome those
[1:06:54] right now at this point.
So I welcome those
opportunities for cost saving
[1:06:55] So I welcome those
opportunities for cost saving
initiatives that are beneficial
[1:06:56] opportunities for cost saving
initiatives that are beneficial
the community, but we still
[1:06:58] initiatives that are beneficial
the community, but we still
have to provide these important
[1:06:59] the community, but we still
have to provide these important
services to our community at a
[1:07:02] have to provide these important
services to our community at a
local level.
[1:07:03] services to our community at a
local level.
Thank you all so much for
[1:07:04] local level.
Thank you all so much for
having. Thank you. Thank you
[1:07:06] Thank you all so much for
having. Thank you. Thank you
for beating a horse.
[1:07:10] having. Thank you. Thank you
for beating a horse.
>> All right.
[1:07:15] for beating a horse.
>> All right.
Well, if there’s nothing else,
[1:07:17] >> All right.
Well, if there’s nothing else,
we’ll move on to our space
[1:07:20] Well, if there’s nothing else,
we’ll move on to our space
needs care to me.
[1:07:21] we’ll move on to our space
needs care to me.
Jeremy opened up to public army
[1:07:27] needs care to me.
Jeremy opened up to public army
I’m sorry, we’re going to go to
[1:07:28] Jeremy opened up to public army
I’m sorry, we’re going to go to
open to the public with anybody
[1:07:29] I’m sorry, we’re going to go to
open to the public with anybody
in the public. A lake to
[1:07:31] open to the public with anybody
in the public. A lake to
address the. Five-year
[1:07:35] in the public. A lake to
address the. Five-year
financial forecast
[1:07:39] address the. Five-year
financial forecast
come on, Eric.
[1:07:42] financial forecast
come on, Eric.
>> Okay. Yeah.
[1:07:47] come on, Eric.
>> Okay. Yeah.
>> All right. We will
[1:07:49] >> Okay. Yeah.
>> All right. We will
the five-year financial
[1:07:51] >> All right. We will
the five-year financial
forecast and we’ll move right
[1:07:54] the five-year financial
forecast and we’ll move right
on in and open up the workshop
[1:07:56] forecast and we’ll move right
on in and open up the workshop
for the space needs so that
[1:07:56] on in and open up the workshop
for the space needs so that
when we have a few minutes to
[1:07:58] for the space needs so that
when we have a few minutes to
the meeting up, sure. Thank
[1:08:01] when we have a few minutes to
the meeting up, sure. Thank
you. It’s not an imminent.
[1:08:02] the meeting up, sure. Thank
you. It’s not an imminent.
>> And we have to wait to