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Local call, today's meeting to order, and

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this is a special meeting of the Board of Supervisors. So you should all feel special today. We're going to start out with the pledge of allegiance and I'm going to ask Trina or if she would lead us if we can get.

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This morning is a budget workshop.

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We started this.

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Is this our second one or our third one?

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Second one.

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We started this last year.

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And it was very helpful, I think, or informative to our board to be able to have the discussions

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with department heads and employees present.

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And so I'll just say, I think we're all, we've looked forward to having this discussion

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and then also approving a budget on September 10th?

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Well, okay, yeah, budget, our budget hearings

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will be on the 10th and then approving in late September.

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So, thank you all for coming,

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and I'm gonna turn it over to Nate to run us through

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today's agenda.

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Thank you, supervisor Kingsley,

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Nate Greenberg, County Administrator,

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and yeah, it just occurred to me a few minutes ago

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that I am kicking this off.

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So, I'll try to kind of walk everybody through the purpose of the day and provide some high level preamble.

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Before I do, I really do want to thank departments and the fiscal teams as well as the budget team,

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Kerioni and Megan McCammon from the admin team, it's, I think, as I have said,

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at least more than once, that the budget is very much a collaborative process and it starts

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with departments and really you all helping us understand what your needs are to be able

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to effectively run your teams and your departments and deliver the services that you need and then

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us trying to figure out how to make all of that work. And it is often, you know, that there can be

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a little bit of friction there and trying to figure out how to make it work, but I am always

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impressed at how well everybody kind of works together and recognizes that at the end of the day we're

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here to support you and really try to make the things that you need and the requests that you're

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bringing forward come to fruition so that we can essentially deliver effective services.

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So as supervisor Kingsley stated, the purpose of today really is to have some open conversation

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and less formality to a lot of that conversation so that some of the sort of less solid pieces

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of the budget can be worked through and discussed openly with the board, with the departments,

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with the public, if there is any here, which I don't see any, but there may be some online.

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And really give us as a budget team the input and the feedback that we need as we're working

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toward the publishing of the recommended budget. And so that is going to be happening at the end of

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month, we need to get it out the door around the 30th of August.

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So, we need to have 10 days before the first budget hearing, which is on September 10th.

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And so, this is basically an opportunity for us to help educate the board of the budget

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process and just those that are not familiar with how we get to the place that we are today.

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And then as we sort of work through the next few hours,

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the big pieces that we're going to be discussing today are in the area of personnel requests and changes that have been brought forward by departments for 2425.

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And then some of the other special projects or requests that have been brought with respect to addressing strategic priorities and the like.

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Like most of the core aspects of the budget, sort of the operating expenses and those things

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which you all are putting in on a year-to-year basis, we've discussed in the departmental

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budget meetings, certainly if there are feelings from any of you that there's a need for discussion

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around some of that stuff, we can have that same thing from the board obviously, but at this

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point what we're kind of looking at more are those like larger areas of discretionary spend and

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you know certainly the biggest ones are the ones that are on the table in front of everybody today.

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So I'm just going to provide a little bit of background and hand it over to Danelle who's

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going to talk through some of the budget position piece. Carrie is going to sort of walk us through

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the personnel requests and some of the rationale there. We'll take a quick break and then wrap up

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the morning really with some of the special projects and strategic priority discussions.

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So just a handful of kind of lead-in slides to level set and I think that most of the departments

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and probably the board at this point understand this but for those of you who aren't really familiar,

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we just thought it would be helpful to share some of our philosophies in terms of putting together

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the budget and I sort of started with this but really I mean we are here to support you as the

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budget team and we really are trying to the best of our ability to support those

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department requests wherever we can. The logic that we generally use is the

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first lens is you know what are prior years actuals and that's not necessarily

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just last year but looking back over a few years and you know we're not trying to

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make deep cuts in places but we are trying to just be realistic about what are the

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actuals that are being spent in any one budget area and you know what is

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actually needed to operate on any given year and the reason we do that is we have to close

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a budget gap every single year. We still have a budget gap to close this year. We're not

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trying to be overly aggressive but at the end of the day we have to deliver a balanced budget

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and to do that we've got to find money in various places.

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We recognize that there are core services within each of your departments, each of our departments,

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And we want to fund those and operational costs to kind of handle the day-to-day operations

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before we look at new initiatives and that's new projects or other things like that.

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Our staff are the most valuable part of our organization, it's also one of the largest

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components of our budget.

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And so we want to take care of existing staff and recognize that we need to have enough

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money to do that before we take on other pieces.

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We try very hard to utilize the funding streams thoughtfully and appropriately and that's

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different funds within our set of accounts and budget units as well as matching one

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time money to one time projects and using things like opportunities with LATCF or ARPA to

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to fund where appropriate or other grants

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and lines of revenue that we don't expect

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or we can only utilize in certain areas

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and really try to blend those different types

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of funding as carefully as possible

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and thoughtfully as possible.

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And then lastly, really think ahead with respect

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to reserves and continuing to build reserves

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but doing so not necessarily as the last thought, but with careful consideration relative

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to how we are balancing putting money into reserves while also putting money toward projects

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that the community and the departments need to get funded.

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Our budget cycle sort of never really ends and I think one of the new things this year that

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we really started last year but just memorialized as many of you know a month or so ago with the adoption

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of the strategic plan is really trying to insert that as a annual process to reconcile and ensure

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that our budgeting is thoughtfully aligned to the strategic priorities that are out there.

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And so really next year we will hopefully be starting that strategic planning process and the review of it earlier so that going into the budget development process for departments that conversation is already happened.

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We just didn't have the time this year, but I think now that we've been through one of those cycles will be able to put that a little bit earlier in the overall budget cycle.

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and then we recognize through the conversations with the adoption of the strategic plan as well as with the regular budget process that those regular check-ins that we need to sort of perform both internally as well as report out are going to be happening as we kind of move into the future budget cycles.

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And so it really is an ongoing kind of process, and that also is true to the actual budget

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periods themselves.

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So I think as most of you know, we adopt a rollover budget at June as is statutorily

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required by us, that really is focused on this first quarter and continuing our operations

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and much the status quo nature that we're set out for last year with the exception being if there are

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capital investments or significant things that need to be taken on in that first quarter,

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we do try to address some of those. But really where we're at today obviously is working toward

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this final budget adoption, which will happen at the end of September. And then we basically move

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toward mid-year and that's when we have sort of the final reconciliation and any other adjustments

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that need to be made with respect to revenue or other aspects of funding that are out there

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and then our third quarter budget is kind of that that wellness check as a whole and making sure

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that we're in a good position to make it through the end of the fiscal year and there aren't any

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other surprises are things that we're not anticipating to make sure that we can get back

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to that role over budget.

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So we're always sort of living in multiple budget periods at the same time and that creates

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some interesting challenges I know for all of you, but just wanted to remind folks of that.

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And we've already kind of spoken to this calendar a little bit today, but this is more specifically

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with respect to the final budget. We're here in the middle of the page on August 7th, the budget

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workshop. I spoke to the fact that we'll be publishing that CAO recommended budget by the end

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of the month. We'll go into budget hearings on the 10th of September and then two weeks later come

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back for the final adoption of that budget.

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The last thing that I'll say is I've kind of already

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spoken to this in the first slide. But, you know, when we talk about priorities for budgeting,

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we really are first looking at this core services piece. And that's, you know, the fundamental

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foundation of the departmental budget conversations that we have with all of you. It's really looking at

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what are your staffing costs for your existing staff. And then the new staff that are being kind of

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proposed or reclases and those types of things sort of get put on a little sidecar because we know that

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We want to take care of existing staff before we start looking at some of those other things.

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We'll talk more about that in a few moments this morning.

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Any other operations or fixed assets that are out there.

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I mean, that's really kind of the majority of what we're talking about on a regular basis.

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And then with the strategic plan, we're starting to think more trying to think more carefully and thoughtfully about

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how are we putting money toward some of the strategic priorities that have been identified

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by the board and the community and the organization as the whole?

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And I think, you know, yesterday we heard an example or another set of potential projects

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that are going to be coming out of the CWPP with wildfire mitigation and preparedness.

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And so that's another example of a set of projects that will get put into the strategic plan

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as part of strategic priorities and looked at relative to many of the other things that we are

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recognizing we need to be trying to find money for in either existing funds or new grant

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opportunities and the like. And then not to diminish the importance of reserves, but again,

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we're trying to be thoughtful about putting money continuously into those reserves in case we do

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come into a hard spot, but also balancing that against the need to have as much money

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kind of flowing to these projects and other purposes as possible.

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So not sure if there's any questions around that, I'm sure most of that isn't new to anybody

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in this room, but if there are happy to answer before we kind of move on.

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Good morning, Danielle Carrington, Assistant Director of Budget and General Services, so I'm

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This first slide is really about our revenue sources as of last week, how we're bringing

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our revenues in for both general fund and non-general fund and these numbers.

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We're not finalized by any means. We still have a couple of weeks to try and button up the budget. We are still trying to find some operating transfers and some additional revenue to cover the gap that we're in right now. So, but as of last week, here we are. So you'll notice that most of the funds for both general fund and non-general fund come from other government services or agencies. And that's typical every year.

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So, next we have, do I just do this?

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These slides are our total county expenditures by not only category, but also by department,

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so you can kind of see where your department lies in the expenditures for this next fiscal year.

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revenues, I'm sorry expenditures typically salaries are the largest category that we have for all expenditures.

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Then services and supplies and then for departments you know you can kind of see that the public works and health and human services are at the top which again is typical.

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other financing uses is that when we use treasury funds to look,

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are you looking at the

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category and department expenditures, operating transfers, care operating transfers or any debt

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service.

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Okay, and then the next slide is just specific to general fund expenditures by category

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first and then by department. You will see that 63% of our expenditures in the general fund are

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for salaries and benefits. That is one that is our highest category for the general fund.

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And then again looking at departments, the sheriff's department and health and human services being

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the biggest pieces in the general fund.

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This next slide is comparing what our increases are

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looking like in the general fund from last year board approved to where we are right now.

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There's a 17% increase in salaries and benefits. The services and supplies are typically the same.

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Well, it's a 59% in internal charges, and those are directly related to the increases

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that we're seeing in workers' comp and public liability.

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We've got some really large increases in the insurance benefits there.

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And capital improvements, we've just got a project or two in the general fund that might,

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it's not a lot of money, it just looks like a big increase.

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And then cost increases across all funds, you'll see that services and supplies is a big

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increase in the because of non-general fund. But that's typical. Again, salaries

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are higher in the general fund, whereas services and applies are higher in the

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non-general fund.

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Next, we have some fun-balanced slides that are

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autocontrollable.

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So as you know, we are in a we do deficit budgeting or fun

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balance budgeting. I don't like to use the word deficit because every year we're

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carrying over fund balance from the prior year to close our gap and when we so in what

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that really means is that our budget in the general fund has less revenue than expenditures.

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And so we need a carryover to close that gap because we're required by the California

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your budget act to have a balanced budget. So we either have to have our revenues equal

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or expenditures or we have to have balance from the prior year to cover that difference.

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And we have that every year. And that is not uncommon and the reason why we have unbalanced.

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There's a variety of reasons. We have salary savings and anybody who's in, you know, knows

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that you have vacancies every year that create salary savings whether you're in a general fund or

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a non-general fund because non-general fund budgets also have fund balances. You have to have

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fund balance in your non-general fund budgets as well. Those are your reserves. Same thing, it's

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same concept. And that money is carried forward year to year to be used. You just don't owe you

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either budget it. Sometimes you'll have a bigger expenditure that you're carrying forward

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from year to year. The fund balance can be made up of salary savings. It could be made up of

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excess revenue that you may have gotten. When we're budgeting, when we're looking at our revenues

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from year to year, you know, we can't anticipate exactly what we're going to get. Some line items,

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we know the exact dollar amount that we're going to get and others we have to make an estimate on and we you know we've always been a little more on the conservative side so we will get more money an example of that in the 23 24 year was our interest earnings.

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I am always going to budget more on the conservative side because it can be.

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There's a lot of factors that go into the interest earnings and I don't want to overestimate

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that revenue and then have it go the other direction where we have a huge shortfall.

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So we did have excess earnings that added to our fund balance this year.

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So those are all factors that add to our fund balance or your departments don't spend

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every dollar that you budget that adds to your fund balance every year.

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So, we, you know, this slide show that year to year, we, you know, we've had a fund balance rolling forward.

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And we don't budget.

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We stopped for years ago.

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We stopped budgeting or anticipating the prior year fund balance because it is also moving target.

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So we don't want to come up short and you know last year we had $5.2 million in fund balance.

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Well, if we budget to that as our gap and it comes in at $4.3, we now have to cut another million dollars out of our budget.

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So we were again targeting the $4.2 million as our fund balance.

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So we're anticipating and if we have access that will the board can allocate that to several

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different places, contingencies or other one time expenditures that they choose to prioritize.

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Next slide.

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It's a lot of money, you know, $5 million out of $120 million budget, I guess, or something.

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Would you say that that is mostly made up of gallery savings or I mean, it's just, it

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is a lot of money every year that we carry forward.

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I'm glad we have it I'm not questioning it. So in the general fun when you're looking at it,

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you know, some of it is year-to-year carryover or you look at our total revenue and expenditures.

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We're our revenue and expenditures. We're just not spending the carryover from year-to-year.

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But it's a mix. It's a mix of salary savings is definitely a large portion of that.

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But then, you know, we, and just looking this year, we did have a lot of, um,

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large revenues that came in that we, you know, we did not, yeah, that we weren't

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anticipating. We bumped up revenues at mid-year, but we didn't over, you know,

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bump them up high enough to, um, but they're just some of them are hard to

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anticipate and TOT you know we went into this year expecting a large

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decrease in our TOT and thankfully it did recover but with the circumstances

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there was no way for us to project we were going to end up where we ended

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up yeah I mean the park with all the natural disaster issues and with the

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environment we were in and I think it would be irresponsible for us to you know

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jump to the high end of that number and say, you know, we hope we're going to get there and then come up short.

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I mean, because then we're in a, if we, if we don't, we don't want everyone to be in a negative fund balance situation at the end of the year.

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Because not only are we having to close that fund balance gap, now we're going to have to take money out of reserves to cover that negative fund balance.

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So you know there was a time when we were slowing down hiring and that was partly to build the to build salary savings, but now

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We need to hire as quick as we can to get people because and so I just I have expected that at some point

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We would have less salary savings because of that, but it doesn't feel like well

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And you've seen in years where fund balance has gone up and down

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It's not always just climbing. I mean if you look back at that chart, if you go back to the previous chart, you know, it's not a constant increase the year before it was 5.7 and then it was 5.2. So it does swing.

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I'm year to year.

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So I think I kind of covered understanding fund balance already, you know, from, in the first,

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we talked about pretty much all the components, unless anybody has any specific questions or

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and one of the things, you know, I know that everybody's kind of, you know, where are we going to land

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and I will tell you is, you know, really until I certify

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the numbers are changing on a day-to-day basis.

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I mean, we're still, it can swing $1 million in a day.

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So, until we certify, I'm still, we're waiting,

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so I can't really give you any projections

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until I'm locking the number in at the final anticipation,

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because departments are still getting in receipts

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and doing their final transfers.

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And so we need that last, the cruel period doesn't

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in until August 30th.

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And I just wanted to add to that, that one

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of the strategies that we use in, I guess,

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to benefit from that uncertainty and try

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to get as much into the budget when we adopted in September as possible while also recognizing

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some things may not make it, but could still be afforded is looking at mid-year. Because by mid-year,

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you know, we're six months into the fiscal, we have a better idea of how things are tracking,

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we have an opportunity to realize more revenue in the budget and potentially add additional

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expenditures is needed and so you'll hear that brought up a couple of times

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throughout the morning that we are looking to defer certain things to that

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kind of mid-year point because it does give us a little better idea and certainty

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around what's going to end up happening with those revenues and what's happening as

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a whole with respect to fund balance but that gives us I think the $4.2

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million or a number gives us sort of that safety net but then how things

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actually come in in the reality around that is sort of what allows us to take on some more or

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adjust as things need to change throughout the fiscal year.

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So as far as balance budget yeah

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we you know just this is I think a really good just as simple as you can put it and it's a requirement

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And you know revenue plus fund balance equals expenditures and that's just the formula as basic as you can get for a budget.

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So I like this slide as far as especially for anybody new coming into county budget talking to constituents.

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This is a great slide to show anybody who's trying to understand county budget.

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So

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this slide is just explaining how we close the gap and currently the requested budget is at a nine point almost one million dollar gap.

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We're trying to budget to a 4.2 million dollars, so we're working really hard to close that gap.

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We do that by reviewing the revenue we increase or decrease as needed because sometimes revenues are overstated.

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We perform standard cuts to the services and supplies and we this is one of the reasons that we have meetings with all of the departments so that we can explain why our methodology is why we're doing what we're doing and you know these are the tools that we have to close that $5 million dollar gap.

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We reviewed your department spending plans, we recommend changes that might optimize the dollars.

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We reprioritize projects within departments.

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We also work closely with public works to look at the projects for deferred maintenance.

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And if they're a non-general fund project, we will work with those non-general fund departments to fund those projects.

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We are constantly looking at operating transfers.

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First, from different types of funds and trust to cover special projects on one time costs. We're reviewing personnel changes. We're making recommendations. We're working directly with each department to give and take as needed. And we're also, I haven't done this yet, but we will be seeking salary savings from the vacant positions that you have currently. And that means that we're, you know, by the time we balance our budget, it's three months from when we started our budget. And if you've got a position budgeted for 12 months and we haven't filled that one.

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there are salary savings to be had, so those are just some of the tools that we have that helps us close that large gap that we start with.

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Next, we have some personnel considerations.

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Just want to do a quick check-in and see if there's any questions or comments from board or departments or public or anybody before we move on.

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Okay, so personnel considerations, as Danelle said, our salaries and benefits are about half

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of our total expenditures, and they should be, because our largest asset is our employees.

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And so going through some of our personnel considerations, existing MOUs, so this year

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there is a change from last year in April of this year, we verified the

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desertification of the Elected Officials Assistance Association, they

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petitioned and requested to desertify their exclusive recognition of their

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unit, and so that was confirmed. So we now have only five MOUs and five bargaining

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units. So we have the Deputy Sheriff's Association, the DSA, and their current

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MOU as the time frame is July 1st, 2022 through June 30th, 2025. We also have the

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Inyo County Correctional Officers Association, the ICCOA, and their term of

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their MOU is November 1st. I put 2029. So obviously that's a typo.

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2021 probably through October 31st of 2024. In Yolk County Employees Association, ICEA,

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their MOU ran July 1st, 2021 through June 30th of 24, so we are out of contract with ICEA right

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now. In Yolk County Probation Peace Officers Association, ICPPOA, and their term was April 1st,

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21 through March 31st of 2024, so we are also out of contract with the ICPPOA, and then our final

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unit is the Law Enforcement Administrators Association or LEAA, and their term was July 1,

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2022 through June 30th of 2025. So currently we are in active negotiations with two units,

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ICEA and ICPPOA, and we have our first meeting. We're starting negotiations with the

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correctional officers starting in September, so we'll be kicking those off pretty soon.

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So classification and compensation study. We're almost to the finish line. It's been a lot

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of work on both the departments behalf on the contractor that we're utilizing, but we are

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in the process of getting their recommendations back right now. We'll be using that information

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with our bargaining units and talking with them. I know a lot of the conversation that we had with

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departments during our budget meetings. We're probably sick of us saying that's class and

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calm. We're waiting on class and calm. But what we're looking for is really trying to

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standardize and have equity within departments. And so giving that same message to all departments

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as we come to the finish line of our class and comp study, hopefully.

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So that is going to come further in on to the next slide, so I won't go too much into

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those requests right now,

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so personnel budget priorities.

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So we know that we, and I'll steal this from Nate because he says it regularly, that

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But we don't want to balance the budget on the back of current employees, and I say that right.

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And so we know that our existing MOUs, it's important that we are able to sustain that,

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sustain the class and comp that we want to implement, because why pay all this money

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if we're then going to say we can't do anything with the recommendations that they come.

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So, budget priorities looking at existing MOUs, class and comp and the implementation of that.

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The next two or three budget priorities is when we were talking with departments,

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we talked with them about looking at their personnel changes and their personnel requests

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in four different buckets.

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And I'm going to tell you what those buckets are,

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But Nate was really the one that explained this to the departments and so I want him to just reiterate what we've been saying in the budget meetings so that I don't misinterpret it and say it differently.

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So what we've been looking at is one, class and

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compartments is a request to come into the category of a class and

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compartments. Two, is it a reclassification?

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Three, is it a reorganization and four, is it a new position?

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Thank you, Ana.

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Sure.

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So I think Carrie sort of explained the first one but I'll just kind of walk

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through it again and and really that is to say that we've heard across the

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organization about competitiveness challenges with recruitment as well as

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issues with retention and the intent behind the class and comp study and

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again thank the board for approving and supporting that process because to my

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knowledge, this is the first time in a number of years that a comprehensive study has been

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done looking at all levels of the organization at the same time. We've seen individual

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MOUs and bargaining units trigger some form of a compensation or a market analysis and

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be implemented, but not necessarily look at the internal equity across all of those other

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departments or classifications in other bargaining units.

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And so the value of doing a comprehensive class and comp study is that you address compensation

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basically from the lowest level position in the organization to the highest level, ensuring

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that internal equity is looked at across the board and at a consistent utilization of market

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it and the competitiveness is applied across all of the positions as opposed to kind of

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taking it in isolated chunks.

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And so part of the reason that we've been holding off, and I know it's been frustrating

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for all of us, myself included, say we're going to wait for class and comp is that by e-smelling

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implementation of salary changes within any one division, you're basically breaking equity

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in doing that. You're basically putting one classification or one association or one department ahead of another, regardless of the source of funding, et cetera.

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And so we are looking in, I'll just say, I mean, class and comp studies are never perfect. There's always going to be little issues and flaws.

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And I think that's part of why we have tried to move as quickly as possible in this process while also being deliberate in terms of the conversations that we're having with the consultant.

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which is ever being consulting and has been a tremendous amount of this work.

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But I think the study itself in terms of looking at both the internal equity of

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how a individual in one position is looked at relative to an individual in another similar position,

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whether it's the exact same classification in a different department or a similar type of position

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which may have a different classification is one big component of that study and then the next

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big piece of that is looking at how does that position compare to a similarly positioned or

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similar classification individual or entity in another competitive county or other person in

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the market. So we looked at a number of counties. What was it total? 10, 14, 15? Yeah, about,

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yeah, somewhere between 12 and 15 competitors, both counties, city of Bishop, town of

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Mammoth Lakes, CalTrans were included in there. So we tried to look, you know, within region

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as well as out of region at what is market paying with respect to all of these different

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positions across the organization. So the implementation of that class and

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comp, we really are hoping addresses both of those pieces, the internal equity

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and making sure that people within the organization are compensated fairly

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relative to one another and the competitiveness with respect to the market

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that's a whole. And so we're looking to implement that study and utilize budget

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it first in that space because of what Kerry said and what we've consistently been saying.

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We want to make sure that our existing employees are compensated fairly and appropriately and

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that we can recruit and retain for those positions which we have on the books today.

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Then moving into the budget process itself, there are these sort of three other categories

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and we came up with these collectively based on the types of requests we were seeing come

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in the door.

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It could change year-over-year based on the types of requests that are being made by departments,

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but really the first one that fundamentally we have supported and there's only a few examples of

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this in the data you'll see here in a moment are these restructure requests and you know these are

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not fine terms of art but it's what we labeled these things as. The restructures were generally where

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we're departments were saying I want to delete one position and add another position and in some

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cases that was a savings to the county, which is a no-brainer. In other cases it was a, you know,

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small, diminimous cost increase, but there's not really a net change in authorized

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strength. And overall, you know, it makes sense that we would support those because there's not a

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huge impact to the budget, and it meets the operational need, or if it made the operational need,

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made sense to the personnel, we were generally supporting those as part of this budget process.

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So those two things are really, I guess, just accepted even though we don't know the exact

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cost of class and comp right now, those are being assumed as being implemented as part

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of the budget process as a whole.

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The next was reclassifications, and really as we started to look at reclassifications, we

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went back and forth, and I'll say that the reason, so reclassification would be saying,

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I want to take a person who was in this position and move them to it's usually a higher level position and that's based on an operational need typically that's being made by the department saying this person is operating at an office tech and I need them to actually being administrative analyst.

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In general, in past years, we've supported reclases where they made sense and we could

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financially support them because the departments know the operational needs better than we

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do and we can support it financially great.

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The big change for us this year was because class and comp is going on and as part of the

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class and comp process, basically staff throughout the organization were filling out this job

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analysis tool. And in that job analysis tool, if people were, put them, quote, working out of class or sort of on a stretch assignment or otherwise indicating that there are additional duties that are being done or that, you know, are being requested of them.

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Those were getting added into the JATs and there were a number of departments that didn't

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put any reclasses in that we knew were interested in reclassing positions and there were others

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that did put reclass requests into the budget process.

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And we just ultimately got a little bit uncomfortable saying, like, well, we don't want to honor the

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request that came in the door through the budget process because we don't know if this department

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didn't put them in intentionally because they were going to get picked up through class

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and comp. The other piece of that was that because some of the positions that people

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were looking to reclass individual into were also being analyzed through class and comp,

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it was unclear whether that position would end up at that classification or would be adjusted

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through that class and comp process.

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And so essentially what we have landed on

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with respect to reclassifications

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is that we would be implementing those requested changes

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as part of the implementation of the class and comp

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process as a whole.

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Our thinking right now, and I think if I'm wrong,

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00:44:50,980 --> 00:44:53,260
or I think that this is subject to change

409
00:44:53,260 --> 00:44:54,760
as we kind of move through the process,

410
00:44:55,860 --> 00:44:58,200
our thinking right now just based on where we are

411
00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,980
with union negotiations, the budget...

412
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,460
The process demands on our time, et cetera, is that we probably will not conclude negotiations

413
00:45:06,460 --> 00:45:17,660
with ICEA and EPOA, or the main bargaining union in probation until after August 30th, when

414
00:45:17,660 --> 00:45:22,420
the budget document is out the door, which means at that point in time, we could amend the

415
00:45:22,420 --> 00:45:29,920
budget on the the floor in September, we don't like to do that typically. And so what we're

416
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:35,820
thinking we'll like we end up happening with both of those bargaining units is that when

417
00:45:35,820 --> 00:45:42,220
we finalize negotiations and have an MOU brought to the board, that that would be the trigger

418
00:45:42,220 --> 00:45:48,880
for implementing the change to authorize strength and we would bring a budget amendment

419
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:55,200
it with that potentially to address the implementation of the costs associated with

420
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,680
class and comp and any of the reclasses.

421
00:45:58,060 --> 00:46:05,040
So we're thinking that that could be October, you know, I think it kind of depends on the

422
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:12,180
status of negotiations, but that's basically where we're kind of mentally right now with

423
00:46:12,180 --> 00:46:13,760
respect to the reclassifications.

424
00:46:14,860 --> 00:46:22,360
new positions are a little bit different and based on the conversation or the comments

425
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:28,400
made earlier, what we're sort of thinking right now is that we're conceptually supporting

426
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:34,120
many of the new position requests through this conversation that we'll have today.

427
00:46:34,980 --> 00:46:42,440
But we think that financially we likely won't be supporting those until mid-year, or maybe

428
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,040
be the first of the year, sorry, not mid-year.

429
00:46:44,660 --> 00:46:51,180
And that's just to give us a little bit of, a little more savings in those positions.

430
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,680
I mean, I guess there's not really savings there because they're not even in the system

431
00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:01,260
yet or budgeted yet, but rather than bringing them on right on October 1st before we've implemented

432
00:47:01,260 --> 00:47:06,160
class and comp and some of these other unknowns, it just gives us a little more runway to make

433
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:11,600
sure that we can theoretically afford those things before we add them.

434
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:18,060
And then we'll basically at mid-year be reconciling the budget associated with all of those things.

435
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:23,300
So we'll know what the actual cost of, I said, a budget amendment would be brought with

436
00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:29,560
class and comp, but we could do that, or we could basically just reconcile the budget

437
00:47:29,980 --> 00:47:35,020
at mid-year once we know the actual cost of implementing all of those pieces.

438
00:47:36,340 --> 00:47:38,220
So that was a ton of words.

439
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,540
I don't know if any of that made sense.

440
00:47:40,540 --> 00:47:42,280
I don't know if it made sense to the two of you.

441
00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:46,540
Does anybody have questions?

442
00:47:49,730 --> 00:47:51,690
So reorganization and restructure are the same.

443
00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:53,690
So those are basically supported.

444
00:47:54,130 --> 00:48:00,130
There's only three of those in the examples and in all of those cases I think we've supported

445
00:48:00,130 --> 00:48:04,390
those restructure requests because it's basically the yes.

446
00:48:13,610 --> 00:48:20,050
My question is, if anything goes sideways with the class and comp, possibly a negotiations

447
00:48:20,050 --> 00:48:24,390
or anything, is that going to delay the rest of the implementation that you have in mind

448
00:48:24,390 --> 00:48:25,590
for new positions?

449
00:48:26,130 --> 00:48:28,150
Or like for recalces specifically?

450
00:48:28,750 --> 00:48:30,230
New positions specifically.

451
00:48:30,270 --> 00:48:30,790
New positions?

452
00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:34,340
I think it's a fair question.

453
00:48:37,790 --> 00:48:40,130
I don't really know the answer to it, I guess.

454
00:48:40,130 --> 00:48:46,650
I mean, I think our hope is that things won't go sideways, first of all.

455
00:48:48,780 --> 00:48:52,200
I hear you. I mean, there is some anxiety around that. I know that.

456
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:59,540
I know there's a lot of folks that have expressed concern in terms of what the MOU or what the union reactions will be to those

457
00:48:59,540 --> 00:49:02,640
and what the ability to implement that MOU will be.

458
00:49:03,260 --> 00:49:13,100
You know, our feeling is that the information that is there is solid and that we're hoping

459
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:19,080
that is not the linchpin in terms of implementing and getting to an agreement.

460
00:49:20,500 --> 00:49:26,060
And I think, you know, how the actual negotiations go is still kind of a bit of an unknown.

461
00:49:26,660 --> 00:49:32,580
I think if it seems like that's the direction that things are headed and we are seeing new

462
00:49:32,580 --> 00:49:40,580
position requests hang out there and there be a legitimate business need for them, I think

463
00:49:40,580 --> 00:49:42,840
we can look at taking those ahead.

464
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:48,520
I mean, ultimately, there's, you know, I think what it comes down to, again, is for when you

465
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:53,080
take care of existing employees first and then also trying to balance the budget.

466
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,800
and I think once we get to a budget package

467
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,320
that gets out the door in September,

468
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:02,660
it'll be balanced and we'll have a better idea

469
00:50:02,660 --> 00:50:03,880
as we kind of move through the year

470
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:04,720
of where we're tracking.

471
00:50:06,020 --> 00:50:07,780
Many of the new position requests

472
00:50:07,780 --> 00:50:09,480
are not in the general fund also,

473
00:50:10,140 --> 00:50:11,280
so that helps with that.

474
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,000
And that's why I say these are just

475
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,960
some conceptual ideas at this point.

476
00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:19,820
It's possible that we would maybe bring forward

477
00:50:19,820 --> 00:50:24,860
some new position requests as part of the implementation of class and comp as well.

478
00:50:25,820 --> 00:50:32,600
So these are just kind of like rough concepts that we put out there to sort of help ensure

479
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:33,960
that we can make it all happen.

480
00:50:37,630 --> 00:50:38,950
None of it's set in stone at this point.

481
00:50:39,130 --> 00:50:43,490
I mean, really, I actually, I mean, I think that this is a valuable conversation for the board

482
00:50:43,490 --> 00:50:48,570
to react to and departments to react to as well because, you know, this has all been sort

483
00:50:48,570 --> 00:50:53,130
of evolving through the last several weeks of conversations with budget team and departments.

484
00:50:55,370 --> 00:51:02,570
So are you making some assumption at all about what increased labor costs are going to be due

485
00:51:02,570 --> 00:51:07,530
to the class and income from implementation and the new labor agreement?

486
00:51:11,900 --> 00:51:12,180
Yes.

487
00:51:13,820 --> 00:51:21,160
Okay, because I'm wondering how how how the balancing occurs if there's the substantial increase

488
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,720
that happens after you've submitted a balanced budget.

489
00:51:29,180 --> 00:51:34,900
So one of the things that we're considering is typically, not typically, every year,

490
00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:36,380
in our personnel budget.

491
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:42,480
We have some contingencies put aside specifically for MOUs or anything that might happen during

492
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:42,900
the year.

493
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,560
And so we're making sure that we have some funding set aside there specifically.

494
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:54,160
And remember, even those salaries and benefits are 60% of the general fund, overall, not

495
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:59,540
all salaries and benefits are general fund costs. So it will be the expectation that the non-general

496
00:51:59,540 --> 00:52:06,200
fund budgets will cover their increases and we will cover the general fund piece. And it's probably

497
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:15,620
about 55% of what the increase could be. So we're including some contingencies to fund those

498
00:52:15,620 --> 00:52:22,040
increases. Okay. So I guess what I'm worried about is the scenario where you have a balanced budget

499
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:28,760
then you come back in October, whatever, whenever, or mid-year. As they go, we have the implementation

500
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:33,860
of these labor agreements. So that means we have to cut $2 million elsewhere.

501
00:52:34,980 --> 00:52:42,040
This is very similar to several years ago when I believe it was DSA was still out in negotiations

502
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:50,760
and we had to finish the budget. And so we set money in personal contingencies, not knowing exactly

503
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:57,100
what the final number was going to be to settle those negotiations, I think they settled

504
00:52:57,100 --> 00:53:04,660
sometime in October, and then we were able to, you know, the negotiation settled in

505
00:53:04,660 --> 00:53:10,300
October, the money was set in personnel contingencies, and then we had to come back to

506
00:53:10,300 --> 00:53:16,280
board to move the money with a budget amendment back in, but the money was set aside, and yeah,

507
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:22,340
So there will be a, you know, it may not be, you know, it's an estimate at this point because we

508
00:53:22,340 --> 00:53:29,260
don't know exactly what the number is, but we are estimating it around about number to put in there.

509
00:53:31,020 --> 00:53:37,120
I think, you know, it's really, ideally, we wouldn't be in this position. We would have finished,

510
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:42,600
we would have had class and comp and we would have finished negotiations months ago and we could

511
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,360
just build a budget based on the melon. And I think that that's a little bit of the

512
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:51,320
challenge right now is it's a slight moving target. We've got some rough ideas of what

513
00:53:51,760 --> 00:54:00,380
those costs are going to be. And we're trying to basically look at and balance that relative

514
00:54:00,380 --> 00:54:07,280
to everything else that we're addressing right now. And I think that really the conversations

515
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:19,080
Today, we'll help inform and influence some of that, and that's part of the reason I made my comment earlier about the purpose and the value of mid-year also is that it may mean that

516
00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:34,400
we'll just say in one scenario, maybe it's a worst-case scenario, maybe not, is that we hold back on new positions or filling vacant positions for a little bit longer to give us a little more salary savings and run away.

517
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,520
That's not common about not balancing the budget on the back of our current employees.

518
00:54:38,940 --> 00:54:45,360
We wouldn't ideally bring in new employees through the door if we recognize in the fall

519
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:51,020
that we do have a budget gap, we need to basically be able to close that budget gap first and

520
00:54:51,020 --> 00:54:53,240
then look at additional needs beyond that.

521
00:54:53,420 --> 00:55:00,360
So that's why it's hard to answer Alicia's question directly, but I think we probably would

522
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:06,840
not hold a hard line on that, recognizing that there's a lot of variables in that decision

523
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,560
they can, I don't know if that answers that question.

524
00:55:11,510 --> 00:55:16,830
And just one more point that I wanted to make too is that, you know, we are bargaining

525
00:55:16,830 --> 00:55:21,750
with our employees, groups, our bargaining units, and we're also working with our board.

526
00:55:21,950 --> 00:55:24,090
And we also know what our numbers are.

527
00:55:24,290 --> 00:55:29,250
So, you know, there's lots of things that we can do with implementation of these things,

528
00:55:29,250 --> 00:55:34,330
you know, putting them across multiple years to save the dollars or, you know, different

529
00:55:34,330 --> 00:55:35,350
types of implementation.

530
00:55:35,790 --> 00:55:42,010
We're not going to break the bane just to do what the class and comp says if it's going

531
00:55:42,010 --> 00:55:45,090
to really affect how our budget is.

532
00:55:45,550 --> 00:55:47,110
So we're thoughtful of that.

533
00:55:47,710 --> 00:55:52,050
And I will just also say, I mean to everybody in this room and more broadly that, I mean,

534
00:55:52,490 --> 00:55:57,190
it is important to us that we implement class and comp and that it really does benefit our

535
00:55:57,190 --> 00:55:57,810
current employees.

536
00:55:57,810 --> 00:56:04,230
I think Supervisor Kingsley said a lot, it's important for us to have a lean, well-paid

537
00:56:04,230 --> 00:56:04,810
workforce.

538
00:56:05,030 --> 00:56:08,750
And I think that that's the philosophy that we've taken into the class and comp, we're

539
00:56:08,750 --> 00:56:09,690
taking into the budget.

540
00:56:10,590 --> 00:56:16,130
And it is really important to me and the budget team and the negotiation team that we take

541
00:56:16,130 --> 00:56:17,210
care of our current employees.

542
00:56:17,690 --> 00:56:21,490
It's a little bit of a challenging thing to talk about in this environment because we're

543
00:56:21,490 --> 00:56:22,670
in two active negotiations.

544
00:56:23,170 --> 00:56:26,570
and so there's that component of both confidentiality

545
00:56:26,570 --> 00:56:30,270
and some of the aspects of that which make it complicated.

546
00:56:30,990 --> 00:56:33,250
But I've said across the negotiation table

547
00:56:33,250 --> 00:56:37,530
that both bargaining teams that we care about the employees.

548
00:56:37,950 --> 00:56:40,930
It's not about trying to hold people hostage

549
00:56:40,930 --> 00:56:42,870
or otherwise hold things back,

550
00:56:43,050 --> 00:56:44,470
but ultimately at the end of the day,

551
00:56:44,470 --> 00:56:46,050
we've got to figure out how we can pay for this.

552
00:56:46,370 --> 00:56:48,450
And that's the tug of war that's there.

553
00:56:53,830 --> 00:56:55,290
I may be a little bit ahead,

554
00:56:55,290 --> 00:56:58,890
but on the actual tables in the following slides,

555
00:56:58,890 --> 00:57:01,490
there's a reference to CNC, which is class and comp,

556
00:57:01,630 --> 00:57:06,390
and then also MNC, is MNC a reference to the MOU meet-and-confer.

557
00:57:06,630 --> 00:57:07,490
Meet-and-confer, okay.

558
00:57:08,870 --> 00:57:12,950
Yeah, and I will just say that that's another kind of interesting dynamic

559
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:17,050
that's here, you know, not to overwhelm the conversation anymore,

560
00:57:17,210 --> 00:57:20,370
but there are multiple moving pieces that are being driven

561
00:57:20,370 --> 00:57:21,750
by the class and comp study.

562
00:57:22,430 --> 00:57:23,850
I talked about internal equity.

563
00:57:23,850 --> 00:57:26,770
I talked about the job and assessment tool.

564
00:57:27,310 --> 00:57:33,210
One other output that will come from this class and comp study will be job description

565
00:57:33,210 --> 00:57:38,470
updates across the board, fundamentally our job descriptions are outdated and inconsistent.

566
00:57:39,330 --> 00:57:44,990
And so we know that whether, I mean, it's something as simple as a title change or more complex

567
00:57:44,990 --> 00:57:50,970
like, you know, minimum qualifications or job duties, all of those things will need to get

568
00:57:50,970 --> 00:57:57,090
that there it is out through this whole process and again, we're probably not going to finish

569
00:57:57,090 --> 00:57:57,810
that piece.

570
00:57:58,170 --> 00:58:02,210
The job description piece is part of the entire bargaining process.

571
00:58:02,610 --> 00:58:06,330
And so it will be iterative and incremental.

572
00:58:06,990 --> 00:58:10,290
And so that's the reference around the meeting confer in some cases.

573
00:58:10,570 --> 00:58:15,890
Some of that may happen outside of a bargaining or some of it may be for a unit that's not

574
00:58:15,890 --> 00:58:21,650
open that we would have an impact to a job description change or a title change that would

575
00:58:21,650 --> 00:58:24,530
just need to be talked through in a mean confer process.

576
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:35,580
To answer my questions, and I just have one comment maybe to tag after Alicia a little

577
00:58:35,580 --> 00:58:35,740
bit.

578
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:45,300
Some of our departments may have position requests that we can't accommodate at budget, but they

579
00:58:45,300 --> 00:58:52,280
have departments that perhaps only can efficiently get ahead on work in a seasonal time, for

580
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:58,420
instance, winter. So if there's a personal request in that department for winter, perhaps

581
00:58:58,420 --> 00:59:03,820
October through March, waiting till mid-year, I could put that department significantly behind

582
00:59:03,820 --> 00:59:09,420
on deferred maintenance and those kind of things. So I just would like that flexibility as well

583
00:59:09,420 --> 00:59:13,600
and understanding everything you said, which I appreciate. So I just think it's important

584
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:13,900
to note.

585
00:59:18,750 --> 00:59:22,830
And I think that I appreciate that point and I think it is valuable. I mean, I will just

586
00:59:22,830 --> 00:59:30,930
say that we are really looking at a 10-1 date as a starting point for most of this anyway because

587
00:59:30,930 --> 00:59:35,830
budget won't be adopted until the end of September. You know, that next payroll cycle is when a lot of

588
00:59:35,830 --> 00:59:40,710
those changes would be able to go into effect. And so I do want to say that, you know, those add,

589
00:59:41,070 --> 00:59:46,750
those position adds and changes that we've kind of said, let's put them out there at the end of

590
00:59:46,750 --> 00:59:49,570
of the year, I didn't speak and say mid-year,

591
00:59:49,670 --> 00:59:51,870
but really we're saying more January one.

592
00:59:52,490 --> 00:59:55,750
I think we're not gonna take a hard line look at that.

593
00:59:55,810 --> 00:59:58,330
I think we need to look at them on a case-by-case basis,

594
00:59:58,470 --> 00:59:59,890
and if it makes sense.

595
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,640
If we can pay for it out of the non-general fund, if we're comfortable with all of those things,

596
01:00:04,380 --> 01:00:09,560
we can wrap it in. So I think that that is a helpful fit of feedback.

597
01:00:11,580 --> 01:00:27,960
I'll just mention too. We've spent money on this class and comp study. And I think it's important that you hear from the board that we want to implement it. We're not spending that money and then not using the data from it.

598
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:39,860
So the timing is horrible, you know, with budget and then negotiations, all coming together

599
01:00:39,860 --> 01:00:47,000
with the class and comp study, but I do mean our board, I think I can speak for our board

600
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:54,420
when they say that we, as we go through this process, I think it's important for people

601
01:00:54,420 --> 01:01:03,860
to know that we are committed to implementing the class and comp study so that our employees

602
01:01:03,860 --> 01:01:15,240
are barely paid. I think that we have an ethical duty to do that. So it's a crapshoot.

603
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:23,760
You know, some people, it's all over the place and where what happens, but I think it's important

604
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:28,160
that we do that, so that we finish that job.

605
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,080
Now, how that works with the budget?

606
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,960
Yeah, it's tough, because we got to figure out

607
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,380
how to pay for it in our budget.

608
01:01:38,820 --> 01:01:41,080
And hopefully the class and comp study

609
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,080
is we can implement it in a way that we can afford

610
01:01:45,300 --> 01:01:46,860
and take care of our employees.

611
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:48,760
So I think that's the challenge.

612
01:01:49,220 --> 01:01:53,480
And I just think it's important for people to know

613
01:01:53,480 --> 01:02:01,240
that the board is not just sitting back and hearing from staff this this this we we are playing a role

614
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:07,000
and saying that's that's we want we want to get this done we want to get through this period

615
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:12,680
of a new budget and the class and comp study yeah

616
01:02:23,590 --> 01:02:26,350
so the the next slide the class and comp

617
01:02:26,350 --> 01:02:34,090
and reclass implementation I believe Nate already went through all of that so the next

618
01:02:34,390 --> 01:02:45,650
as Anna jumped ahead. The next slide is a spreadsheet of the positions that have been

619
01:02:45,650 --> 01:02:57,610
requested and I guess I would ask your board do you want to go through and look at each

620
01:02:57,610 --> 01:03:04,730
one of these so you can ask questions so the departments can say, have input on each one

621
01:03:04,730 --> 01:03:05,110
these?

622
01:03:08,010 --> 01:03:08,210
Okay,

623
01:03:25,380 --> 01:03:33,300
this is department requested. But the columns that are in there basically there's

624
01:03:33,300 --> 01:03:38,880
sort of there's actually four different statuses and you'll see the recommendation on the right

625
01:03:39,380 --> 01:03:46,280
that's from personnel and the budget team and really what I talked through earlier was the sequencing

626
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:52,020
or the implementation there of regardless of support kind of how we were seeing that that get

627
01:03:52,020 --> 01:03:58,820
layered in. And if anybody doesn't have, there's more PowerPoints up front if anybody needs one.

628
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:11,400
Okay, so the first we have the assessor's department and they're requesting to delete one

629
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:19,260
appraiser position and add one administrative assessment analyst at a range 6870 or 72.

630
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:25,380
And in your cost estimates, do you just assume the highest number?

631
01:04:29,090 --> 01:04:34,410
And this is coming, I mean, do you want to, do you want the departments to explain

632
01:04:34,410 --> 01:04:38,470
why it's there because I'm just going through it and then if you have questions, okay.

633
01:04:39,170 --> 01:04:45,610
So the next is the auditor controller and they are asking to add one administrative analyst,

634
01:04:45,610 --> 01:04:51,830
reclass and reclass one of their office texts from an office tech to an

635
01:04:51,830 --> 01:04:52,930
admin amelist one.

636
01:04:54,980 --> 01:04:57,900
The clerk recorder they're asking to delete one clerk

637
01:04:57,900 --> 01:04:59,640
recorder administrative assistant.

638
01:05:01,660 --> 01:05:05,320
The coroner they have requested to increase

639
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:11,530
the salaries of the deputy coroners to with an additional $400 a month and

640
01:05:11,900 --> 01:05:14,860
increase the coroners pay by $300 a month.

641
01:05:23,330 --> 01:05:24,110
So

642
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,080
the coroner's the deputy

643
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:51,280
were increased two years ago and the request was just the, hey can you throw this in? So we need a little bit more justification and we've asked the corner to come forward multiple years in a row with some data for the board.

644
01:05:51,900 --> 01:05:58,440
And so until we can get some of that and see what the case numbers are like that, it isn't supported at this time.

645
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:04,780
And that probably can't be part of the class study

646
01:06:04,780 --> 01:06:06,580
can because nobody else has coroners.

647
01:06:08,860 --> 01:06:11,940
Their contract employees are not actual regular employees,

648
01:06:12,100 --> 01:06:13,040
so they are not part of that.

649
01:06:13,220 --> 01:06:13,280
No,

650
01:06:18,900 --> 01:06:19,900
she's aware.

651
01:06:37,790 --> 01:06:39,610
So in the district attorney's office,

652
01:06:39,950 --> 01:06:42,990
they are requesting to delete the vacant victim witness

653
01:06:42,990 --> 01:06:47,850
assistance position and reclass the office clerk

654
01:06:47,850 --> 01:06:49,730
that they have to a legal secretary.

655
01:06:51,070 --> 01:06:58,430
Environmental Health. They're asking to delete one vacant environmental health tech and then

656
01:06:58,430 --> 01:07:03,530
reclass one office tech to an environmental health technician.

657
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:07,700
Health and human services,

658
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:16,580
they are asking to reclass an APAR HHS specialist to an APAR peer support specialist,

659
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:26,600
reclass all of their HHS Specialist 2s to a single classification of HHS Specialist,

660
01:07:27,820 --> 01:07:34,980
reclass all HHS Specialist 3s and 4s to Case Manager 1s and 2s,

661
01:07:37,180 --> 01:07:42,960
reclass all of their office clerks to office techs,

662
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,240
reclass the office clerk supervisor

663
01:07:48,240 --> 01:08:00,820
to an office manager and that's consistent with if the clerks go to text the office clerk supervisor would no longer make sense because they're not supervising clerks anymore.

664
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:06,890
What does that accomplish the reclassification of those?

665
01:08:09,130 --> 01:08:29,510
So the office clerk classification was used when we were in multiple different offices and since consolidating those those clerks have taken on additional or have the potential, especially to take on additional duties as they're running the front office for a consolidated for the consolidated department overall.

666
01:08:29,510 --> 01:08:37,130
learning multiple systems intake processes and so forth. It also aligns with the

667
01:08:37,130 --> 01:08:46,670
classification for our front office technicians at the very front lobby for the

668
01:08:46,670 --> 01:08:52,450
top. And is that in a weight position because we're waiting for class and

669
01:08:52,450 --> 01:08:53,790
So

670
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:07,480
they are also requesting to reclass one office tech in their fiscal oversight and special operations division to an office manager.

671
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:21,860
They are asking to reclass the behavioral health social worker for psychotherapist positions to behavioral health clinician trainees and behavioral health clinicians.

672
01:09:23,930 --> 01:09:28,910
They're asking to reclass one integrated case worker supervisor to a program manager.

673
01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:36,560
They're asking to create a career ladder series for the employment and eligibility worker.

674
01:09:36,780 --> 01:09:41,980
It's currently just a stand alone and they want to make it a one, two, three series.

675
01:09:42,300 --> 01:09:43,900
And that's employment and training worker.

676
01:09:44,060 --> 01:09:44,800
Sorry, thank you.

677
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,320
Add one administrative secretary,

678
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,500
reclass all of their social services aids from a range

679
01:09:55,500 --> 01:10:02,360
60 to a 63, add one social worker to their APS division,

680
01:10:04,550 --> 01:10:06,570
reclass the tobacco intern

681
01:10:06,570 --> 01:10:16,110
from a range 42 to a range 46, and I'll add that that reclass is specifically to align

682
01:10:16,110 --> 01:10:23,430
that position legally to our minimum wage, and show that we don't bump up against minimum

683
01:10:26,490 --> 01:10:30,470
They're asking to delete several of their COVID positions.

684
01:10:30,830 --> 01:10:34,090
They're unbudgeted all of the COVID that had COVID at the beginning of that.

685
01:10:34,290 --> 01:10:35,350
They were term limited.

686
01:10:35,410 --> 01:10:37,790
They are asking to delete all of those positions.

687
01:10:39,270 --> 01:10:41,850
Delete one vacant A-par addictions counselor.

688
01:10:42,630 --> 01:10:44,110
Delete one vacant office clerk.

689
01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:46,890
Delete one vacant prevention specialist.

690
01:10:52,010 --> 01:10:58,650
So in our libraries, they are asking to request it to add one librarian.

691
01:10:59,770 --> 01:11:02,230
and add one seasonal librarian.

692
01:11:05,030 --> 01:11:07,650
Planning is asking to reclassify one project

693
01:11:07,650 --> 01:11:09,650
coordinator to administrative analyst.

694
01:11:11,870 --> 01:11:14,010
Probation is asking to reclassify one

695
01:11:14,010 --> 01:11:17,890
probation officer three to supervising probation officer.

696
01:11:20,170 --> 01:11:21,230
Public works is

697
01:11:21,230 --> 01:11:23,230
asking to add one senior engineer.

698
01:11:34,670 --> 01:11:37,810
We were polling recommendations and from the

699
01:11:37,810 --> 01:11:40,630
budget narratives and he didn't really explain that so we'll be asking for

700
01:11:40,630 --> 01:11:46,110
more information and additionally it will be the class and comp study should hopefully

701
01:11:46,110 --> 01:11:49,190
address it but if it doesn't then we can talk more about

702
01:11:53,380 --> 01:11:53,540
it.

703
01:11:53,780 --> 01:12:02,240
So in public works are asking to add one senior engineer, add one road superintendent, add

704
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:12,840
one LTC transportation technician, add one permit technician and reclass one gate attendant

705
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:14,580
to a solid waste maintenance worker.

706
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:19,980
Can you define an additional road superintendent?

707
01:12:21,060 --> 01:12:23,940
How many are there now and what's the addition for?

708
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,740
Hello, um, micro-anti-plot works.

709
01:12:29,460 --> 01:12:32,420
We don't have currently a position for road superintendent

710
01:12:32,420 --> 01:12:35,440
that was a eliminated and previous administration

711
01:12:35,440 --> 01:12:37,320
where they created a deputy.

712
01:12:37,940 --> 01:12:41,120
So it'd be prevent to bring that road superintendent position back.

713
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,920
For what purpose?

714
01:12:45,500 --> 01:12:50,300
Because right now we have the way it stops at form and there's a jump to deputy director

715
01:12:50,300 --> 01:12:56,600
so we feel that we need a position in there to bring back a superintendent for the road

716
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:57,000
division.

717
01:12:57,620 --> 01:12:58,520
Thank you.

718
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:10,140
Not currently supporting that senior engineer, is that because of contract or why?

719
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:24,940
So yeah, that one is it should have actually been probably a need more info as well that was a kind of hot off the presses discussion that happened yesterday and that there's active discussion around that position right now.

720
01:13:25,860 --> 01:13:38,340
Ultimately we understand the business need it was a question about how the funding for that would would look and I think we're working through some clever concepts from public works right now.

721
01:13:38,340 --> 01:13:40,660
and I think we'll be discussing that more in the coming weeks.

722
01:13:46,700 --> 01:13:52,380
On the permit tech position, would that total cost be shared

723
01:13:52,380 --> 01:13:54,440
with the City of Bishop, or would that?

724
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:56,900
That is the concept.

725
01:13:57,500 --> 01:14:00,500
And I think that that one, you know, you could probably put

726
01:14:00,500 --> 01:14:03,880
that dark orange color on and say need more info as well.

727
01:14:05,460 --> 01:14:08,680
There's a few variables in that discussion

728
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:10,000
as a whole at the moment.

729
01:14:11,020 --> 01:14:14,920
and ideally, yes, that position would be shared.

730
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:16,360
The cost of it would be shared.

731
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:20,960
We with the impending implementation of OpenGov

732
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,120
and streamlined permitting that should happen through that

733
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,780
and some of the other kind of moving parts

734
01:14:25,780 --> 01:14:30,080
in the overall sort of shared division that that is.

735
01:14:30,740 --> 01:14:34,880
We're continuing to look at what should the future really be

736
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:35,900
and look like for that.

737
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:41,600
At this point, we're just saying we don't support it because there's a few too many unknowns

738
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:47,200
that are there, but we do understand that there is a capacity question as a whole, and

739
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:54,480
that as that software is implemented and a few other pieces fall into place, certainly

740
01:14:54,480 --> 01:14:58,220
we're open to re-evaluating and considering what's really needed there.

741
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:08,600
Let me move on.

742
01:15:11,130 --> 01:15:38,370
So in the sheriff's department, they're requesting a reclass of one animal control supervisor from a range 64 to a range 70. The fund won. Frozen deputy position. To add one administrative analyst position. We're also asking to expand the reserve program by including a level one and a level two reserve position.

743
01:15:38,370 --> 01:15:41,830
with additional pay for those positions

744
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,760
and add one animal control officer.

745
01:15:49,980 --> 01:15:51,640
Because you're a tax collector's office.

746
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:53,380
I have a question back to the sheriff.

747
01:15:55,280 --> 01:16:01,280
So it says support either this or on animal control

748
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:06,660
or on the administrative analyst or animal officer.

749
01:16:07,660 --> 01:16:11,300
So is that mean basically the sheriff's department

750
01:16:11,300 --> 01:16:12,980
has to prioritize those.

751
01:16:17,220 --> 01:16:20,460
That's we do need to do some follow-up conversations with the sheriff but

752
01:16:20,460 --> 01:16:26,120
yes that's what we are we are recommending at this point is to have that conversation saying we

753
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:32,660
can't support all of this so where do that where are the priorities? Because it says the same under

754
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,320
deputy and expansion of the reserve program.

755
01:16:54,750 --> 01:16:57,210
Do you have questions for the sheriff on that or no?

756
01:16:57,210 --> 01:16:58,110
I

757
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:07,640
mean, I'm assuming that if they're on here, she feels there's a need for them.

758
01:17:10,780 --> 01:17:11,380
Yes.

759
01:17:15,710 --> 01:17:20,110
So the reason that we were wanting to reclass the animal control supervisor,

760
01:17:20,490 --> 01:17:24,150
we are actually wanting to reclass it to an animal services supervisor,

761
01:17:24,410 --> 01:17:28,010
because currently Katie Bird is our animal control supervisor,

762
01:17:28,490 --> 01:17:32,450
and she's performing both supervision of the shelter and of animal control.

763
01:17:32,990 --> 01:17:36,970
So I believe that actually kind of creating a new position

764
01:17:36,970 --> 01:17:41,990
in cutting her position and then keeping three animal control officers is really what we're

765
01:17:41,990 --> 01:17:50,490
looking at. As you all know her job duties have kind of broadened over the last few years.

766
01:17:50,690 --> 01:17:56,650
She's taken on more of a almost a law enforcement role with seizures and warrants.

767
01:17:56,830 --> 01:18:02,770
It's really difficult for her to perform all of these tasks and supervise both the animal control

768
01:18:02,770 --> 01:18:11,130
officers and the animal shelter. When it comes to the frozen deputy position last year,

769
01:18:11,550 --> 01:18:20,150
when we made all the changes within our department, I unknowingly put a position instead of cutting

770
01:18:20,150 --> 01:18:27,110
the title to a position. So we reduced our authorized strength by one deputy that was never my intention.

771
01:18:27,110 --> 01:18:32,150
So we're asking to unfreeze that position to get back to where we were last year.

772
01:18:33,850 --> 01:18:41,930
As far as the reserve program, we're currently utilizing our retarded nuisance to cover some

773
01:18:41,930 --> 01:18:46,330
of our patrol also to cover bailiff duties.

774
01:18:48,290 --> 01:18:51,390
Mike Ackins has brought in a level two reserve.

775
01:18:51,790 --> 01:18:55,690
I don't know if you guys are familiar with that, but it's basically a new, um,

776
01:18:56,970 --> 01:19:02,010
Somebody that wants to be a deputy, but doesn't really want to commit so they go to a kind of a modular academy.

777
01:19:02,910 --> 01:19:13,650
When we brought her on, we noticed pay under the reserve program from, I think it was the 80s, was $16 an hour.

778
01:19:14,510 --> 01:19:15,970
That's fairly minimum wage.

779
01:19:16,710 --> 01:19:24,530
So we kind of wanted to tear that a little bit differently to kind of match the cost of living and the stay in age.

780
01:19:24,530 --> 01:19:32,790
so that's why we're asking for these things. I think I answered everything. Do you have

781
01:19:32,790 --> 01:19:44,630
any other questions regarding that? Oh yes. So right now we have very minimal support staff in

782
01:19:44,630 --> 01:19:50,770
our office and that encompasses every division within our apartment. Right now I think we have

783
01:19:50,770 --> 01:19:59,470
three office texts and an analyst. I've been paying the bills. So we have one of our office

784
01:19:59,470 --> 01:20:07,750
texts working at a class doing analyst work. We also have the need with animal services and our

785
01:20:09,870 --> 01:20:16,030
what is it? Civil. Civil. They have no support staff. So we are wanting to add an analyst

786
01:20:16,030 --> 01:20:19,490
was positioning keep one of our office techs

787
01:20:19,490 --> 01:20:23,050
provide support for animal services and for civil.

788
01:20:35,350 --> 01:20:37,010
Well, I think it would manage grants.

789
01:20:37,270 --> 01:20:39,290
So as you all know, that I added the grant

790
01:20:39,690 --> 01:20:40,810
right or last year.

791
01:20:41,310 --> 01:20:43,910
She's actually working really hard on that.

792
01:20:44,110 --> 01:20:45,770
We've received one so far.

793
01:20:46,390 --> 01:20:50,290
But I believe that this office tech could manage the grant

794
01:20:50,290 --> 01:20:51,990
and the state reporting to those grants.

795
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:55,240
Welcome.

796
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:00,720
So a lot of this seems like it's

797
01:21:03,950 --> 01:21:10,270
budget constrained and is say, say the expanding this reserve

798
01:21:10,270 --> 01:21:15,830
program or paying for that. I mean, can you work that into your budget? In other words,

799
01:21:15,990 --> 01:21:24,750
that you have now or is this, do we need to add? I mean, that's my question. Is this all,

800
01:21:24,750 --> 01:21:29,910
So can it be within your budget or are we asking you need more money?

801
01:21:30,970 --> 01:21:36,450
Some of our, a lot of these things that are wrong here aren't necessarily changing the budget.

802
01:21:36,650 --> 01:21:40,390
They're reorganizing or re-organizing or using things different ways.

803
01:21:40,850 --> 01:21:42,630
In this case, it's adding.

804
01:21:43,650 --> 01:21:48,470
I believe that, well, this is going to be a work in project trying to build that program up anyways.

805
01:21:48,470 --> 01:21:54,630
I think that our budget currently could sustain we only have one at this point.

806
01:21:56,210 --> 01:22:01,710
So I believe, I believe now we could sustain that within our budget.

807
01:22:01,710 --> 01:22:04,950
I think looking at it long term, we'd have to really look at the numbers.

808
01:22:06,250 --> 01:22:15,400
Okay. I mean, I get it that we, we're trying to work with numbers.

809
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:25,300
And but then you're trying to work with what you need for your department and so hopefully we're able to find a way through that.

810
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:39,100
You guys negotiating together. I mean the board I don't think wants to get into a spot where we're directing necessarily changes but we do want to support all of the departments requests if we can.

811
01:22:39,100 --> 01:22:44,800
So yeah, and we're we're still looking into other revenue sources last year with all our big changes

812
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:49,220
We found a lot of the revenue sources are self without using general fund monies

813
01:22:49,220 --> 01:22:53,520
So we're continuing to do so so we're working towards that goal

814
01:22:54,500 --> 01:23:02,120
Thank you, and I just want to recognize that you know the the requests from the sheriff's office came in there was a discussion during the budget process

815
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:06,340
As we're kind of working through things, you know, this was our sort of reaction

816
01:23:06,340 --> 01:23:25,360
We did try to get together and have some of this discussion ahead of today and talk some of it through just schedules for what they were so this one is definitely still in the works sheriff now we're just talking this morning about sitting down so the thing is not dry on on any of this and I think the conversations are still happening.

817
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:26,380
Okay,

818
01:23:33,990 --> 01:23:38,290
so Treasurer Tax Collector's Office, they're asking to reclass one office tech

819
01:23:39,100 --> 01:23:45,670
to an admin analyst, administrative analyst, and reclass one management analyst to a senior

820
01:23:45,670 --> 01:23:46,730
management analyst.

821
01:23:49,010 --> 01:23:54,010
And then in the water department, they are asking to add one research analyst.

822
01:24:02,420 --> 01:24:06,060
I do want to point out that the two positions that are

823
01:24:07,100 --> 01:24:12,540
subject to consideration for reclass, we are in discussions about them actually being

824
01:24:12,540 --> 01:24:19,840
new positions. And I also want to point out that in the Treasury and all of our employees

825
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:30,120
are probably 70 and recovered by the Treasury administrative fee. General Fund only pays their

826
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:37,960
share of the interest that's apportioned. So we do have a revenue source for those positions.

827
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:45,840
The reclass in my opinion is a bandaid and one of them the office tech to admin analysts

828
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:50,360
unfortunately our office techs at that time were vacant so they didn't participate in the classification

829
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:53,940
And therefore, I don't know if they would have any results.

830
01:25:10,690 --> 01:25:12,430
Any questions or?

831
01:25:18,220 --> 01:25:19,340
One question.

832
01:25:20,620 --> 01:25:27,900
You know, when we're negotiating with you for different, no, for dollars and benefits.

833
01:25:29,100 --> 01:25:30,700
I mean, we're thinking about the general fund.

834
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:36,580
You have to set aside money in the same way.

835
01:25:36,580 --> 01:25:38,460
I mean, how does that affect you?

836
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:41,300
It feels like.

837
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:51,260
Well, there's a couple of things.

838
01:25:51,480 --> 01:25:53,720
I think for the position request for.

839
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:59,920
Those are usually coming from a new funding or a new program that has to be implemented for the.

840
01:26:01,540 --> 01:26:05,480
For the potential for increase in salaries due to negotiations.

841
01:26:07,460 --> 01:26:10,060
We don't we're not necessarily privy to.

842
01:26:10,700 --> 01:26:16,840
where we're added any given time but we do have fun balance that would accommodate changes.

843
01:26:17,380 --> 01:26:21,040
Okay. And then also certainly it is impactful.

844
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:21,980
Right.

845
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:24,920
Taking a measured approach makes sense.

846
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:25,260
Yeah.

847
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:30,540
And then so much of your money comes in in.

848
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:32,620
Conscious from the state.

849
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:38,400
And I mean it feels like at least in the past you guys have had to try to adjust to what this.

850
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:40,380
how the state is giving you the money

851
01:26:40,380 --> 01:26:41,760
and allowing you to spend it.

852
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:44,340
And so it does feel like

853
01:26:45,060 --> 01:26:49,520
I always teach Maryland about constantly being reorganizing

854
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:53,600
and but that's the reality a little bit, is that true?

855
01:26:54,100 --> 01:26:55,820
Yeah, it is absolutely true.

856
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:57,100
And thank you for asking that question

857
01:26:57,100 --> 01:27:00,100
because it does look like we never quite know

858
01:27:00,100 --> 01:27:01,980
what our stuff should look like,

859
01:27:01,980 --> 01:27:05,180
but it was very much in response to,

860
01:27:05,180 --> 01:27:15,560
So, you know, we have several new programs that are required to be implemented in a behavioral health, for example, we brought in a whole bunch of short term grant money during COVID.

861
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:30,780
Obviously, that was a big change in our in our workforce that we're still adjusting from. So it is almost always driven by new programming and new funding that's coming in or funding that's going away.

862
01:27:30,780 --> 01:27:42,520
and and and readjusting what those positions would be doing because there's always something else coming down the pike in some cases and you and we discussed this a little bit here.

863
01:27:43,140 --> 01:27:53,480
Some of this is really adjusting to, you know, the huge change of bringing eight different locations and just in Bishop for HHS together.

864
01:27:53,480 --> 01:27:58,520
other and I'm sure other departments are experiencing this too and seeing what our

865
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:02,420
work does look different being in a consolidated building in Bishop and Loan Pine.

866
01:28:02,620 --> 01:28:09,920
So some of that is adjusting to that and certainly hopes that the class and comp reflects

867
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:15,180
that, but because we don't have the results, felt it was important to put in the requests

868
01:28:15,860 --> 01:28:19,360
from our perspective and then see how they match up.

869
01:28:20,180 --> 01:28:20,540
Thanks.

870
01:28:32,830 --> 01:28:40,190
Yeah, so the idea is to take a bit of a break maybe maybe we take a 10-minute break and then back we'll jump into the next section.

871
01:28:40,390 --> 01:28:43,610
Well, let's come back at about 10 or about.

872
01:29:02,070 --> 01:29:03,590
Come on back.

873
01:29:03,990 --> 01:29:04,390
I

874
01:29:09,130 --> 01:29:10,770
can't

875
01:29:14,610 --> 01:29:15,830
even give my colleagues.

876
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:59,980
I just have a couple of introductory comments and then I'm going to

877
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,800
Turn it over to Megan. And really, those comments are aimed at first thanking the public works team and then recognizing Megan and Rebecca in the PMO team. You know, the project management office as most people know is a new thing here. And I know that there was a lot of uncertainty around how this was going to look and work and interface. And I think I think it's safe to say that we're already seeing the

878
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:37,080
value and some early success about essentially admin and the PMO team interfacing directly

879
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:44,640
with right now public works and many other departments in better understanding large projects

880
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:49,740
whether they're being carried out by an individual department or they're spanning multiple departments

881
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:58,820
and helping to reconcile, well first kind of recognize and then reconcile and bring kind

882
01:30:58,820 --> 01:31:02,900
of some cross-departmental knowledge and subject matter

883
01:31:02,900 --> 01:31:05,780
experience to bear as part of the budget team.

884
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:08,540
And so this is sort of the first foray

885
01:31:08,540 --> 01:31:12,540
into this approach in the budget process for the PMO

886
01:31:12,540 --> 01:31:17,180
and really grateful for Megan being back and being able

887
01:31:17,180 --> 01:31:19,500
to step in and kind of serve in that capacity

888
01:31:19,500 --> 01:31:20,560
through this process.

889
01:31:26,340 --> 01:31:33,400
All right, with that, I'll jump right in to the 2425

890
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:40,100
deferred maintenance process. So Nate had asked the PMO to jump in, sit with public works,

891
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:47,560
and see what we could do to lend some transparency to the prioritization process for deferred maintenance.

892
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:54,860
It has become clear as we've sat with public works that there are projects flying in at them all

893
01:31:54,860 --> 01:32:02,340
the time from all directions. Everybody's project is the most important project, and it's been fairly

894
01:32:02,340 --> 01:32:09,420
chaotic. So our goal is to put really a framework around the prioritization process and build

895
01:32:09,420 --> 01:32:15,740
out a prioritization, transparent prioritization criteria that you see before you today.

896
01:32:16,860 --> 01:32:25,600
This is a first blush of going through existing and new deferred maintenance projects with this

897
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:34,940
prioritization criteria in mind. First, as we've heard from the board, a real goal to carry

898
01:32:34,940 --> 01:32:41,680
over and finish projects from the previous year. Obviously, we often have emergent issues.

899
01:32:42,380 --> 01:32:49,580
The jail wedding and jail water intrusion was an example from last year of an emergent issue.

900
01:32:49,580 --> 01:33:01,360
So we need to always pay attention to funding restrictions and coming up, running up against

901
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:02,800
funding deadlines.

902
01:33:04,250 --> 01:33:09,660
We have new rules and legislation coming out year over year with requirements around

903
01:33:09,660 --> 01:33:11,900
ADA risk.

904
01:33:12,100 --> 01:33:17,060
Right now there's a huge push for cooling and making sure that all of our buildings are

905
01:33:17,060 --> 01:33:23,580
cooled to a certain degree. And so there's moving gold posts every year from risk and safety.

906
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:33,840
There's a goal to find ways of reducing the need to do constant maintenance or have high cost

907
01:33:34,540 --> 01:33:41,100
items or high cost, high utilities costs, for example. So looking for projects that offer significant

908
01:33:41,100 --> 01:33:47,100
cost savings or reduction in maintenance and then of course board priorities and things

909
01:33:47,100 --> 01:33:48,780
that were specifically requested from the board.

910
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:39,180
So we do have different parts of funds that are available right now, L-A-T-C-F, general

911
01:34:39,180 --> 01:34:45,560
funds, I think there's a little ARPA funds left, non-general funds and other funds so you'll

912
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:52,020
We'll see in the deferred maintenance list what project pot we've been pulling funding

913
01:34:52,020 --> 01:34:58,160
from for new deferred maintenance projects, you'll see that we have not necessarily identified

914
01:34:58,160 --> 01:34:59,400
the funding pot at this time.

915
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:08,660
We are also talking about potentially with a recognition that there are grant matches required

916
01:35:08,660 --> 01:35:16,260
of 10 to 25 or even higher percentages as we start pulling down more grant funding

917
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:22,280
that is going to require a local match and local contribution in the future.

918
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:27,740
So we'd like to start thinking about setting aside a pot of money to use for

919
01:35:27,740 --> 01:35:35,500
grant matches in future years. So those are kind of other other budget items to

920
01:35:35,500 --> 01:35:41,020
in the back of your head as we walk through the many, many requests for projects that we have

921
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:54,680
for 24, 25. Starting on a high note, you'll see in front of you on slide 24 the 23, 24 completed

922
01:35:54,680 --> 01:36:01,420
deferred maintenance projects and the public works team has been hard at work completing several projects

923
01:36:01,420 --> 01:36:04,580
projects, or many projects that you'll see on this list.

924
01:36:05,380 --> 01:36:11,060
You've got major projects like the design and engineering of the courthouse HVAC system,

925
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:17,540
a major work and remodel of the Bishop Senior Center, the emergency work on the jail and

926
01:36:17,540 --> 01:36:23,900
the sheriff's admin building from the water intrusion, and then lots of little lifestyle projects

927
01:36:23,900 --> 01:36:28,880
scattered in between new water fountains and door sweeps, etc.

928
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:41,760
And again, this is just deferred maintenance projects, the same team was running a muck answering little work orders and work calls for all the departments as well.

929
01:36:42,540 --> 01:36:46,960
Megan, so is this entire list completed then?

930
01:36:47,500 --> 01:36:49,140
This is the completed list, yes,

931
01:36:51,500 --> 01:36:55,080
for the list of things that were completed last year, basically.

932
01:36:56,820 --> 01:37:04,700
The following slides slide 25, you'll see the list of projects that were worked on last year but not completed.

933
01:37:06,300 --> 01:37:13,260
So for many of those lists, for many of those projects, you'll see that there's an additional budget request for this coming year.

934
01:37:13,440 --> 01:37:20,140
Some were already encumbered, but these are projects that according to the prioritization criteria,

935
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:27,540
which really prioritizes carryover projects and finishing open projects.

936
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:33,960
These are some of the priority projects for this year because they are carryover projects from previous years.

937
01:37:34,900 --> 01:37:39,760
Some big ones to call your attention to or the animal shelter building.

938
01:37:40,860 --> 01:37:49,480
A major remodel of progress house kitchen finishing up the jail and sheriff admin remodel and then obviously our favorite.

939
01:37:49,480 --> 01:37:52,000
at the courthouse age back project.

940
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:55,560
So we will be recommending moving forward

941
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:57,580
on most of these projects

942
01:37:59,020 --> 01:38:01,280
because they're carryover and meet the first criteria.

943
01:38:04,900 --> 01:38:06,340
The following slides slide 26,

944
01:38:06,340 --> 01:38:10,000
you'll see a list of new deferred maintenance requests.

945
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:11,800
So these are things that have come in

946
01:38:12,420 --> 01:38:15,860
as we were preparing for the budget for this year.

947
01:38:16,500 --> 01:38:21,040
Many of these do pass the prioritization criteria

948
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:30,400
at first blush. They are either ADA or they are a safety project. They help save maintenance

949
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:33,900
funds or they meet one of the other criteria.

950
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:38,980
And then there are some at the bottom you'll see in

951
01:38:38,980 --> 01:38:47,460
red that are not prioritized and not recommended to move forward this year. So from public works and

952
01:38:47,460 --> 01:38:53,240
the prioritization criteria screen these do not pass muster, but many, many do.

953
01:39:02,020 --> 01:39:06,160
Is that in the current building? Not the one currently being built. Okay,

954
01:39:06,620 --> 01:39:07,820
Sheriff Di, thank you.

955
01:39:11,290 --> 01:39:16,370
Are there any other questions on the on the deferred maintenance

956
01:39:17,110 --> 01:39:22,110
prioritization criteria? Everything that's on there right now are things that could move forward

957
01:39:22,110 --> 01:39:28,090
for the prioritization criteria. It does not mean they are funded. It does mean that they

958
01:39:28,690 --> 01:39:32,070
will be evaluated for funding by the budget team.

959
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:38,680
So I'm curious about the jail laundry facility.

960
01:39:39,870 --> 01:39:41,160
Why we wouldn't want to put,

961
01:39:41,300 --> 01:39:43,420
why we wouldn't want to put that on the list.

962
01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:46,780
Because it wasn't the plan to purchase

963
01:39:47,500 --> 01:39:53,880
laundering equipment so that the guests could generate income.

964
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:57,280
So wouldn't that need plumbing and electrical?

965
01:40:02,420 --> 01:40:16,860
We did put it into our budget and it was funded by the CCP to purchase the equipment to move forward with doing laundry services for the county with our inmate incarcerated person to work crews.

966
01:40:16,860 --> 01:40:24,300
That was halted because our plumbing system would not sustain a commercial washer.

967
01:40:25,260 --> 01:40:28,680
So I feel like this project would pay for itself once it's completed.

968
01:40:30,300 --> 01:40:41,680
So you have the funding to purchase the equipment, but you can't because we're not funding the plumbing redo.

969
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:46,900
I wouldn't say necessarily it's not funding the plumbing redo.

970
01:40:48,700 --> 01:40:52,440
My understanding is there is a lot of work that needs to be done on the plumbing and

971
01:40:52,440 --> 01:40:56,360
electrical for the jail in order to make this reality, and it's not off the table for

972
01:40:56,360 --> 01:41:01,700
the future, but we're talking about a major multi-year project that if we want other projects

973
01:41:01,700 --> 01:41:06,600
to get done, that one is going to be a major time suck.

974
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:12,640
In addition, I think there's a lot of outstanding questions around the concept and that not

975
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:17,400
that we disagree with the concept or it's a bad concept, but for example, transport

976
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:23,600
of laundered items up and down the county is another example of outstanding questions

977
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:25,000
that haven't been worked out yet.

978
01:41:26,340 --> 01:41:31,660
So, it's not to say it won't move forward, there is just still outstanding issues to be worked

979
01:41:31,660 --> 01:41:34,960
through between the Sheriff, Admin, and Public Works

980
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:40,340
capacity. So is there a limit, a time limit on when you'll be able to

981
01:41:40,340 --> 01:41:42,240
purchase that equipment with those funds?

982
01:41:45,460 --> 01:41:48,020
We have the the funds to

983
01:41:48,020 --> 01:41:51,340
purchase it now. We've been holding off on that

984
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:57,200
based on the plumbing issue. So we're ready to move forward whenever the plumbing is

985
01:41:57,880 --> 01:41:58,440
repaired.

986
01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:08,360
So I hope that was going to be my question. There's no

987
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:10,640
So we're not going to have to pay that money back.

988
01:42:10,820 --> 01:42:12,340
There's no time limit on that funding.

989
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:15,700
No, so the funding is criminal justice re-alignment.

990
01:42:16,120 --> 01:42:18,580
And so we get an annual allocation each year.

991
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:20,880
And so we're just trying to spend some of that money.

992
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:22,340
There's a large fund balance.

993
01:42:22,580 --> 01:42:25,580
So those funds are ours and they're not going anywhere for now.

994
01:42:26,340 --> 01:42:30,820
So, but those funds are included in the fund balance though.

995
01:42:31,420 --> 01:42:32,860
Or they held set.

996
01:42:33,060 --> 01:42:33,560
They're in an interest.

997
01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:36,000
Yeah, okay, we'll clarify that.

998
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:40,660
So basically, they're there until we get around to it.

999
01:42:41,420 --> 01:42:44,960
Yeah, and I just want to reiterate, we support the concept of this.

1000
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:50,500
I mean, we have issues with laundering all through departments.

1001
01:42:50,740 --> 01:42:54,680
Any, you know, within our public works department within Ag and mosquito.

1002
01:42:55,180 --> 01:43:00,220
There are a lot of need for this, and we do agree that there likely would be a cost savings.

1003
01:43:00,660 --> 01:43:05,360
But I think as Megan said, accurately, not only is the infrastructure aspect of this.

1004
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:12,560
It's needing to get worked through and implemented, but we need to build a people, a human system

1005
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:13,280
around it as well.

1006
01:43:13,380 --> 01:43:20,800
We've got to figure out how that is going to work, and so it is conceptually supported.

1007
01:43:21,060 --> 01:43:24,200
We just need to work through some of the rest of the pieces of it, and it doesn't mean

1008
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:26,200
that it's off the table.

1009
01:43:26,300 --> 01:43:31,080
And definitely, we just felt like given everything else that was going on right now, we probably

1010
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:33,680
weren't going to get all the way through that this year anyway.

1011
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:37,540
and so we're just keeping it on the list and deferring it for a year.

1012
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:42,800
So realistically we could see this in action next year then?

1013
01:43:44,140 --> 01:43:47,520
I don't want to commit to that given all of the other pieces that are here

1014
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:53,040
but I think we will continue to look at all of those kind of preconditions

1015
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:57,660
and other, I mean there's basically projects that need to lead up to this project as well

1016
01:43:57,660 --> 01:44:01,200
and so the extent that we can start to solve some of those other questions

1017
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:19,260
I would definitely like to see this project go through, so I would like, I don't want to see it removed from the list in any means and pushed and pushed and pushed until it just disappears.

1018
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:34,380
Yeah, and I'll reiterate, we're not removing any projects from the list anymore. That's one of the other big changes with respect to embedding these types of requests within the PMO as we sort of have this living system.

1019
01:44:34,380 --> 01:44:43,400
of concepts and you know this is one of those that does make good sense and we just need to

1020
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:47,860
continue to balance it with capacity within public works and all the other things that are out there.

1021
01:44:49,420 --> 01:44:57,580
One other question I had was to clarify what remote control bad readers and what is that?

1022
01:44:57,580 --> 01:44:58,680
What is it for?

1023
01:44:59,180 --> 01:44:59,980
Why is it?

1024
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:03,860
High priority. And what will it accomplish?

1025
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:33,600
Yeah, the, the, the, the, the, the, this is the Bishop Consolidate Office Building has 26 different badger readers inside the building. They're each manually programmed individually. So if we need to add or remove a person because we hired a person or because we, a person is left to employ the county, we need to go to these doors one by one, 26 and add or remove the person. The upgrade is to have

1026
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:39,740
remotely controlled bad readers which can be controlled from single PC so that we can make

1027
01:45:39,740 --> 01:45:44,920
these changes without having to walk around. The building, the second advantage is they

1028
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:51,580
are battery operated and the only way we know if a battery is low is if there's a report

1029
01:45:51,580 --> 01:45:56,280
to us that there's beeping from the thing. With the remotely controlled ones we will get

1030
01:45:56,280 --> 01:46:00,420
a proactive notification from the bad reader, batteries low please replace it so we'll be

1031
01:46:00,420 --> 01:46:01,520
able to stay on top of that.

1032
01:46:02,460 --> 01:46:06,600
If they're controlled by a single PC, who has that PC?

1033
01:46:08,020 --> 01:46:13,060
There would be two PCs, one in Independence and one in Bishop.

1034
01:46:13,300 --> 01:46:14,840
So we have redundancy in terms of locations

1035
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:15,840
and in terms of people.

1036
01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:20,480
The system is able to be replicated.

1037
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:25,140
So let's say the PC is damaged or fails to start one day,

1038
01:46:25,380 --> 01:46:28,420
we're able to, the database is outside of that PC.

1039
01:46:28,420 --> 01:46:30,700
You see, so we're able to load that database on a different PC.

1040
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:36,400
And what is the, is that a secure system?

1041
01:46:37,780 --> 01:46:38,360
It is.

1042
01:46:38,480 --> 01:46:42,540
And it's the, in fact, the same one that is being used that the airport and it's been

1043
01:46:42,540 --> 01:46:45,320
approved by the TSA for, for that level of security.

1044
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:46,720
Thank you.

1045
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:54,260
More questions about the.

1046
01:46:55,740 --> 01:46:59,960
I want to, I want to just add one other point really quick, which going back one slide

1047
01:46:59,960 --> 01:47:08,160
to the recommended projects for carryover, you'll know that all of the projects on the list

1048
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:12,680
with the exception of six are active and at some different state.

1049
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:17,320
Some of those have an encumbrance associated with them and some of them are being re-budgeted

1050
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:18,800
or additional funds are being added.

1051
01:47:19,720 --> 01:47:26,620
And you know, in terms of, and I'm not saying that we're here, but just in terms of budget

1052
01:47:26,620 --> 01:47:29,940
priorities for us, we would, if we could

1053
01:47:29,940 --> 01:47:35,720
not fund all of the new project requests coming forward in this year, we would start with

1054
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:41,340
these carryover projects and the ones that are active at least. And then in terms of other

1055
01:47:41,340 --> 01:47:48,660
new projects that have popped up, you know, if there's one that rises above one of the others

1056
01:47:48,660 --> 01:47:54,620
that has not been started from a previous year, you know, we would look at that basically as a priority.

1057
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:59,660
So, that is sort of the lens that Megan was speaking to at the front end was finish what

1058
01:47:59,660 --> 01:48:04,740
started and then basically take on new work into the budget process in the

1059
01:48:04,740 --> 01:48:06,260
work you softly.

1060
01:48:12,740 --> 01:48:24,720
One second Linda, I'll just say this is the most clear display

1061
01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:32,880
of our projects that we've had and it's appreciated that we may not agree with

1062
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:41,240
every, you know, where everything is or how everything is, is, you know, happening. I mean,

1063
01:48:41,300 --> 01:48:45,940
obviously we all look, especially us, look to see, you know, we want to make sure our

1064
01:48:45,940 --> 01:48:53,680
constituents are being served. And, but this at least gives us the opportunity to look at it

1065
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:59,980
and say, okay, this is what we're working on. And I appreciate that. I think this is way

1066
01:48:59,980 --> 01:49:06,620
work clearer than I've we've had before and I really appreciate it.

1067
01:49:09,090 --> 01:49:09,690
There's

1068
01:49:09,690 --> 01:49:17,630
some here that I want to argue about but I'll argue with you later. I actually have one

1069
01:49:17,630 --> 01:49:25,250
more question just for clarity. I think you touched on this Megan. $100,000 for indoor

1070
01:49:25,250 --> 01:49:36,130
heat illness prevention? What is that? So that is there is new legislation as of this year that I

1071
01:49:36,130 --> 01:49:40,730
might get the numbers wrong. I wish Erin was here to correct me, but I believe that we can't have

1072
01:49:40,730 --> 01:49:47,090
anyone working in a building that is more than 85 degrees. So we need to be keeping our there's a lot

1073
01:49:47,090 --> 01:49:52,910
of buildings that we have that don't have adequate HVAC systems. So indoor heat illness prevention program

1074
01:49:52,910 --> 01:50:02,470
is a first attempt at starting to make our temperature control in all of our

1075
01:50:02,470 --> 01:50:08,970
facilities that have employees meet these new legislative departments. Does

1076
01:50:08,970 --> 01:50:19,650
that include workshops and warehousing and everything? But $100,000 is not

1077
01:50:19,650 --> 01:50:26,450
going to get us all the way there. So we're we're beginning to and you said that's new legislation.

1078
01:50:28,290 --> 01:50:33,670
You happen to know what legislation that is. I'll talk to my head. Did you send that to me please?

1079
01:50:34,110 --> 01:50:41,310
I'll talk to Aaron about. Oh, is Aaron's on? Aaron can speak to it then much more eloquently than I.

1080
01:50:41,310 --> 01:50:42,110
Hi,

1081
01:50:46,010 --> 01:50:56,580
everybody, Aaron Humbert, risk manager, yes, there's a new Cal OSHA regulation that

1082
01:50:58,220 --> 01:51:04,200
passed and came into practice about a week ago, actually.

1083
01:51:04,820 --> 01:51:13,980
And so what we did is over the, during the heat wave, I did a study of all our facilities,

1084
01:51:13,980 --> 01:51:41,180
Um, everywhere that we have, uh, employees working indoors. I did a study, uh, measuring the temperature indoors where they're working and identified the workplaces where, uh, we have employees that are working where those locations are, uh, above the threshold indicated in those, uh, above the threshold.

1085
01:51:42,800 --> 01:52:03,700
indicated in the new legislature rigs and that 100 grand that is being requested is to help us resolve those few locations and those are, those are principally shops and you're correct.

1086
01:52:03,700 --> 01:52:04,620
I'm

1087
01:52:09,330 --> 01:52:10,170
just going to tell the thank you.

1088
01:52:10,190 --> 01:52:10,630
Oh, yeah.

1089
01:52:11,170 --> 01:52:12,190
Trenus says thank you.

1090
01:52:12,930 --> 01:52:18,870
The I just was going to note just for general interest that that applies to business as well.

1091
01:52:19,190 --> 01:52:31,190
And I'm getting complaints from business owners, particularly resort operators on public lands because there was a corresponding federal executive order from the president requiring outdoor workspaces.

1092
01:52:31,190 --> 01:52:36,970
So you have campground concessionaires, guides, what not, having to figure out how to implement

1093
01:52:36,970 --> 01:52:37,890
the same thing.

1094
01:52:38,190 --> 01:52:46,060
So I understand it's a big undertaking that we'll have to go active, but we'll start on

1095
01:52:46,060 --> 01:52:46,220
it.

1096
01:52:47,440 --> 01:52:54,880
I'll also add that is the extension of this, you know, we are looking at all of our facilities

1097
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:59,680
for heating and cooling, recognizing that we've got warming centers and cooling centers.

1098
01:52:59,680 --> 01:53:05,900
This year in particular in the summer, we recognize that a couple of those cooling centers

1099
01:53:05,900 --> 01:53:11,700
don't have backup power to actually operate the cooling center when power goes out.

1100
01:53:12,480 --> 01:53:16,280
And so we are taking a comprehensive look at that aspect of this as well.

1101
01:53:16,460 --> 01:53:21,860
Some of those luckily are the same facilities, meaning we have staff in them that we need

1102
01:53:21,860 --> 01:53:27,060
to check this indoor heat-owns box on, but they also serve that other function.

1103
01:53:27,060 --> 01:53:32,380
but this is it is one of those identified priorities especially in you know

1104
01:53:32,380 --> 01:53:34,160
this communities without any other option.

1105
01:53:37,310 --> 01:53:39,310
Linda did you have a question in

1106
01:53:39,310 --> 01:53:44,090
somebody get Linda Mike? I wanted to ask a question about the

1107
01:53:47,590 --> 01:53:56,150
screen okay I had a question about the cottonwood killings I was out there I don't

1108
01:53:56,150 --> 01:54:06,570
a year or two ago and I kind of floating out there on the edge of the lake via who is responsible

1109
01:54:06,570 --> 01:54:21,170
for those and this looks like a I think a $10,000 item is there a non-profit volunteer group

1110
01:54:21,170 --> 01:54:30,290
that might actually do the cleanup, so it doesn't get stuck on the deferred maintenance list for

1111
01:54:30,290 --> 01:54:36,330
a number of years when it's like probably a project that could be done in a couple days,

1112
01:54:36,650 --> 01:54:46,770
for example. I don't know. So it's just more a question and I have a personal experience with seeing

1113
01:54:46,770 --> 01:54:56,890
it and it's a historical structure. My recollection is it's a goby. There is some kind

1114
01:54:56,890 --> 01:55:09,210
of a roof over it to kind of help slow down ravages of time and whose and whose ballpark

1115
01:55:09,210 --> 01:55:16,330
is this item? Thank you. So it's my, Mike, do you want to speak to that?

1116
01:55:16,570 --> 01:55:20,750
Well, I'll attempt to, yeah, a while back when I first started here, it was a project

1117
01:55:20,750 --> 01:55:25,670
that was conceived with no money and all volunteers. Friends of the Museum were

1118
01:55:25,670 --> 01:55:29,950
going to volunteer, a portion of it, a coastal volunteer, a portion of it, engineering

1119
01:55:29,950 --> 01:55:33,090
volunteer, a portion of it. So we were able to get it constructed, and of course,

1120
01:55:33,090 --> 01:55:36,190
First, unprecedented winds came and took it down.

1121
01:55:37,610 --> 01:55:45,210
The news avoided hitting the kiln so blew the debris well off and throughout the land

1122
01:55:45,210 --> 01:55:48,350
there, which is, I think, is mostly DWP property, yes.

1123
01:55:49,090 --> 01:55:53,230
So yeah, we've been wanting to clean it up, and so we were trying to work something out

1124
01:55:53,230 --> 01:55:53,970
with L.A.

1125
01:55:54,030 --> 01:55:56,650
And then the floods came and we got put on the back burner.

1126
01:55:57,230 --> 01:55:57,790
I agree with you.

1127
01:55:57,930 --> 01:56:00,730
I went out to the other day is like, yeah, we've got to get this cleaned up.

1128
01:56:02,590 --> 01:56:07,530
We just have a figured out exactly how to pay for this and who's going to do solid waste

1129
01:56:07,530 --> 01:56:12,490
because we can do some participation, maybe road, but that's where we need the funding

1130
01:56:12,490 --> 01:56:18,710
to remove the debris and then have to visit somebody how it's going to get rebuilt to

1131
01:56:22,740 --> 01:56:22,940
answer

1132
01:56:22,940 --> 01:56:23,420
a question.

1133
01:56:24,580 --> 01:56:31,880
Well, I'll just want to mention, you know, this is one of, this is kind of the result of really

1134
01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:37,560
good intentions and unintended consequences all coming together at the same time.

1135
01:56:37,940 --> 01:56:42,480
So it took us a number of years to figure out how to get some money and some funding

1136
01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:49,220
and then people to do this and got the structure done, it was really well-intended and then

1137
01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:51,180
it got destroyed.

1138
01:56:53,220 --> 01:57:01,460
So I hope we can get it cleaned up but there are some lessons learned.

1139
01:57:01,460 --> 01:57:13,500
in doing things like this, at least it is for me, is to really be thoughtful and maybe

1140
01:57:13,500 --> 01:57:20,420
more methodical about how we're going to engage to do a good project like that.

1141
01:57:21,620 --> 01:57:30,420
It was sort of, I think, not sure the engineering was really as thorough as it should have been,

1142
01:57:30,420 --> 01:57:37,540
But we got a structure up over the over them and then this happens so anyways

1143
01:57:37,540 --> 01:57:42,120
I you know, I I'll just say that I think I hope we can figure out a way to get it cleaned up

1144
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:45,180
And if there's a volunteer group that wants to clean it up. Maybe we can

1145
01:57:45,820 --> 01:57:51,340
Get with them and and have them do it. I don't know if the is the friends in the museum still

1146
01:57:51,340 --> 01:57:56,300
I don't think they're in that in that space to do cleanup that kind of thing

1147
01:57:56,740 --> 01:58:00,340
They might be they might be willing to help pay for it

1148
01:58:00,340 --> 01:58:04,780
or something like that, although, you know, they pay, they help pay to put the thing up, so I don't

1149
01:58:04,780 --> 01:58:12,200
know, they want to spend them, so they can clean it up or not. But, at any rate, it is, it, it,

1150
01:58:12,300 --> 01:58:17,820
it, there's, there definitely is some lessons learned. I know, I think I was a pain to, probably,

1151
01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:24,260
to the, to, to engineering in trying to get the thing done. And then, you know, now I need to be

1152
01:58:24,260 --> 01:58:27,220
get paid to get it cleaned up, but anyway.

1153
01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:32,920
I think this really speaks to everybody's got these pet projects that are really, really

1154
01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:33,820
important to them.

1155
01:58:34,340 --> 01:58:37,260
And we tried to land on some prioritization criteria.

1156
01:58:37,660 --> 01:58:41,060
This project did not meet that prioritization criteria.

1157
01:58:41,400 --> 01:58:44,880
I don't know that we have the prioritization criteria perfect.

1158
01:58:45,340 --> 01:58:51,420
Maybe there is something about being an eye sore or around an artifact or something that

1159
01:58:51,420 --> 01:58:52,720
needs to be added to that.

1160
01:58:52,720 --> 01:58:59,620
But it's somewhere at some point we need to land somewhere so that not every project has to move forward immediately.

1161
01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:02,900
And this is where we landed for this year.

1162
01:59:04,160 --> 01:59:08,360
And that being said, if it's a board priority, it can be a priority.

1163
01:59:15,390 --> 01:59:18,150
Are we done with this portion of the presentation?

1164
01:59:18,710 --> 01:59:22,010
I just can't not make one more comment.

1165
01:59:23,070 --> 01:59:26,190
I want to beat the jail laundry to death.

1166
01:59:27,830 --> 01:59:35,410
Because we have in the green that we're going to do, we've allotted $60,000 for jail landscaping.

1167
01:59:37,450 --> 01:59:46,550
But we're denying a $30,000 for electrical employment that has a lot of benefit to it.

1168
01:59:48,290 --> 01:59:53,290
So, in case I wasn't clear, I want to say this is a priority for me.

1169
01:59:53,630 --> 01:59:58,290
I understand it may not get done this year, but it does need to move forward.

1170
01:59:58,290 --> 01:59:59,970
and if we can spend money on the...

1171
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:16,640
Landscaping? We can do plumbing. I can answer that a little bit here. So there was a new legislation that came out this year. I don't know the assembly bill off the top of my head. They basically required any business that used, um,

1172
02:00:16,640 --> 02:00:20,560
to put a little bit of water to water their landscape,

1173
02:00:20,960 --> 02:00:24,280
they needed to stop, which it's kind of twofold too.

1174
02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:27,120
One of the reasons why we had the water intrusion

1175
02:00:27,120 --> 02:00:30,220
in the admin center was because of the sprinkler system,

1176
02:00:30,480 --> 02:00:32,460
as well as the weather.

1177
02:00:33,460 --> 02:00:38,020
So we have, we have conformed to the new legislation.

1178
02:00:38,420 --> 02:00:41,340
We're no longer watering the grass, we're going to a dry escape.

1179
02:00:41,860 --> 02:00:44,760
So that's why we're requesting the $60,000 for that.

1180
02:00:45,460 --> 02:00:48,640
but I do have a solution maybe possibly for the counts.

1181
02:00:49,460 --> 02:00:51,880
We do have an inmate work crew that can probably go out

1182
02:00:51,880 --> 02:00:54,240
and help with that just to make everybody happy.

1183
02:00:54,920 --> 02:01:00,120
And then maybe we can look at the plumbing and bartering here.

1184
02:01:01,540 --> 02:01:04,000
I'm definitely hearing the prioritization of the plumbing.

1185
02:01:04,180 --> 02:01:07,300
I don't know that that 30,000 is for the plumbing,

1186
02:01:07,360 --> 02:01:08,760
or if it's just for the equipment, or what,

1187
02:01:08,920 --> 02:01:11,620
we'd have to, I've got to dig into that number a little bit.

1188
02:01:11,620 --> 02:01:15,640
But it seems to me that new plumbing and new electrical might run a little higher than

1189
02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:17,580
that if we were to actually look at it.

1190
02:01:21,890 --> 02:01:26,150
Fortunately, it's not so much the water, it's the sewage, it's the discharge.

1191
02:01:27,790 --> 02:01:35,170
So I also just want to say that one of the other pieces of logic with respect to prioritizing

1192
02:01:35,170 --> 02:01:37,970
the landscaping, there were a couple of them.

1193
02:01:37,970 --> 02:01:43,930
One was the money that was allocated last year to finalize or sorry to address the water

1194
02:01:43,930 --> 02:01:49,770
intrusion issue, we anticipated it costing more than it actually did.

1195
02:01:50,050 --> 02:01:57,130
And so we were able to utilize some of the savings from that to carry out and complete

1196
02:01:57,130 --> 02:02:05,190
other projects that had been on the list for the jail and admin building at the sheriff's

1197
02:02:05,190 --> 02:02:10,430
department for years. And so the second piece of logic that was there was rather than moving

1198
02:02:10,430 --> 02:02:16,570
on to another facility, we thought it'd be logical to try to complete just about everything

1199
02:02:16,570 --> 02:02:21,770
we possibly could at that one facility so that it was done, we could move on and say we're

1200
02:02:21,770 --> 02:02:26,950
good. We don't, we'll put this back on the CIP and a facility's maintenance program, but

1201
02:02:26,950 --> 02:02:31,030
the big pieces that need to be done there have been addressed, and we basically got that

1202
02:02:31,030 --> 02:02:37,630
facility up. So this other project, I do agree, it has value and it's important and we're not losing

1203
02:02:37,630 --> 02:02:44,370
track of it. But that was the rationale and the landscaping, kind of just knitting the thing tight

1204
02:02:44,370 --> 02:02:48,490
together in this chair for an reason. There was another demand that was on top of that.

1205
02:02:55,200 --> 02:02:56,040
Okay, what's next?

1206
02:02:56,980 --> 02:02:59,480
All right. This is the fun one.

1207
02:03:02,790 --> 02:03:07,990
So we've also had a lot of interest in looking at how we can

1208
02:03:07,990 --> 02:03:12,530
and beautify and improve our parks and campgrounds.

1209
02:03:12,610 --> 02:03:16,610
We've got a new parks manager in place since last year,

1210
02:03:17,230 --> 02:03:19,730
and there's a lot of energy around parks

1211
02:03:19,730 --> 02:03:25,210
and campgrounds right now and trying to see what we have,

1212
02:03:25,370 --> 02:03:29,010
see what it would take to improve them for the public.

1213
02:03:29,790 --> 02:03:33,570
So, you'll see on the slide before you slide 27,

1214
02:03:33,570 --> 02:03:39,890
and the 2425 department requested projects for parks.

1215
02:03:40,090 --> 02:03:42,410
There's a lot of other things that have been requested

1216
02:03:42,410 --> 02:03:44,810
for parks, but this is really the project element

1217
02:03:44,810 --> 02:03:47,450
that people would see if you were going to go

1218
02:03:48,310 --> 02:03:50,890
to a park and or a campground in New York County.

1219
02:03:53,430 --> 02:03:57,690
What the department requested for the parks

1220
02:03:57,690 --> 02:04:00,650
and campgrounds is really kind of on par

1221
02:04:00,650 --> 02:04:02,770
with what it has been in previous years.

1222
02:04:02,770 --> 02:04:11,450
that is we are being frugal. We are repairing things that break. We are fixing up things that

1223
02:04:11,450 --> 02:04:20,630
exist and we are doing what we can to keep them functional but maybe not necessarily as beautiful

1224
02:04:20,630 --> 02:04:34,330
or pristine, as some would want. So, on slide 27, you'll see what was requested by the

1225
02:04:34,330 --> 02:04:40,490
department to kind of continue the status quo at the parks and campgrounds. A small tree

1226
02:04:40,490 --> 02:04:47,110
trimming contract to take care of some widow makers, some new fire rings, repairing existing

1227
02:04:47,110 --> 02:04:56,110
wouldn't picnic tables repairing some bridges that are out of repair and doing a little bit of repair

1228
02:04:56,110 --> 02:05:03,920
on the gazebo's at Millpond and Mendenhall Park. At the request of Admin and some board members,

1229
02:05:04,400 --> 02:05:10,400
the park department has put together kind of an upgrades list looking at some of those similar

1230
02:05:10,400 --> 02:05:18,020
projects kind of reasonable projects, but if we were to do an upgraded version of what the

1231
02:05:18,020 --> 02:05:24,380
status quo would be what would we be looking at, one thing that came up was upgrading to concrete

1232
02:05:24,380 --> 02:05:31,560
picnic tables. Instead of spending $7,000 a year fixing some portion of our wooden picnic

1233
02:05:31,560 --> 02:05:38,160
tables that get chopped up every year, we could start the process of moving to concrete which is

1234
02:05:38,160 --> 02:05:42,060
basically impervious. People can't move them, people can't chop them up, fire wood or throw them in

1235
02:05:42,060 --> 02:05:46,060
the lake or do one of the other mystifying things that people want to do with picnic tables.

1236
02:05:49,600 --> 02:05:56,220
We could up that tree-trimming contract to take care of some trees at both Spain-Hour

1237
02:05:56,220 --> 02:06:03,920
and Baker Creek, up to $35,000 and then a recommendation to kind of keep a free-trimming

1238
02:06:03,920 --> 02:06:09,980
contract every year for the future so that we could get a handle on the tree's situation.

1239
02:06:10,820 --> 02:06:28,500
There is talk of replacing our existing bridges at Tenamaha Independence Creek and Baker Creek with aluminum bridges that take no maintenance and just stand by themselves and you just buy them and wouldn't need annual repairs.

1240
02:06:28,500 --> 02:06:36,840
There is a $20,000 option to upgrade the gazebos at Millpond and Mendenhall Park by doing

1241
02:06:36,840 --> 02:06:43,400
some more significant repairs, doing a deep pressure washing, sanding them down, repainting

1242
02:06:43,400 --> 02:06:48,680
them, and repairing all the picnic tables that was recommended by our staff as being something

1243
02:06:48,680 --> 02:06:54,520
that could really make the parks glow and be something that the public would see really

1244
02:06:54,520 --> 02:07:05,280
obviously. Megan was on the gazebo's, has there been any conversations about actually replacing them

1245
02:07:05,960 --> 02:07:12,120
with materials that don't require maintenance and use, you know, because there's a lot of different

1246
02:07:12,120 --> 02:07:20,900
materials now, pressurized wood. What's that one that they use for decks? Yeah, the tracks, you know,

1247
02:07:20,900 --> 02:07:29,080
something similar that wouldn't require has that conversation or that

1248
02:07:29,080 --> 02:07:33,760
costing been done. Not in the month that I've been back but you guys want to

1249
02:07:33,760 --> 02:07:38,740
talk to that a little bit? We're aware that wood is not the best products we are

1250
02:07:38,740 --> 02:07:42,960
looking at. What products are out there as you mentioned there's the

1251
02:07:42,960 --> 02:07:47,480
tracks there's different types we will be looking at what is available cost and

1252
02:07:47,480 --> 02:07:54,560
maintenance is a big thing so we don't have pet yours maintenance so we will be talking about what materials that can incorporate.

1253
02:07:55,500 --> 02:08:05,600
I think we're on the same track a lot of what we have been talking about is ways that we could reduce the maintenance requirement so that our staff are free to do additional beautification.

1254
02:08:06,040 --> 02:08:13,580
I just know one of the conversations around the California jobs first funding is revitalization of those areas.

1255
02:08:13,580 --> 02:08:18,440
So if we have those numbers ready, we might be able to plug that in.

1256
02:08:20,610 --> 02:08:21,170
Thank you.

1257
02:08:26,030 --> 02:08:29,370
There is a potential to add a second vault toilet for Diaz Lake,

1258
02:08:29,370 --> 02:08:35,770
which really could use more toilets and save up to $10,000 on shipping by sending with our current order.

1259
02:08:35,890 --> 02:08:38,350
I think the current vault toilet is not planning on coming.

1260
02:08:38,590 --> 02:08:41,330
They're not planning on shipping till December.

1261
02:08:42,390 --> 02:08:46,690
So there is potentially a little more time that we could add a second toilet onto that.

1262
02:08:46,690 --> 02:08:57,230
If we wanted to, the parks department has requested two of these, I find out relatively low cost, only $45,000 of moors.

1263
02:08:58,330 --> 02:09:10,530
These Ventrac moors that I know they've been, the parks department has been trying them out with some testers and things are going well, liking it.

1264
02:09:10,530 --> 02:09:16,430
And adding some additional tools, I guess a socket and wrench that disappeared from

1265
02:09:16,430 --> 02:09:20,910
Millpond about four years ago hasn't been replaced yet, and trying to buy the park's

1266
02:09:20,910 --> 02:09:26,050
department some additional tools that are much needed to do this maintenance, do some

1267
02:09:26,050 --> 02:09:32,330
building repairs, steel door, sheet metals to protect wooden walls that are being damaged,

1268
02:09:33,310 --> 02:09:40,230
lumber lighting, there's the option to not just do a $1,000 hand rail for ADA.

1269
02:09:40,230 --> 02:09:56,860
on the loan pine gazebo but then to connect it with actual ADA sidewalks for 25,000 and then I thought was a cool idea and outdoor shower at Diaz Lake, cheap and easy for only $2,000.

1270
02:09:57,280 --> 02:09:58,620
So that's your upgrade wish list.

1271
02:09:59,760 --> 02:10:01,140
The next slide.

1272
02:10:05,080 --> 02:10:12,300
I would respectfully request that we put the tools not in the wish list but in the regular budget.

1273
02:10:14,960 --> 02:10:29,580
And I mean, it's a general budget discussion for, you know, we've heard it for the building and safety crew and, you know, it seems like all of our shops should have the tools that they need and it seems like a pretty small investment.

1274
02:10:31,690 --> 02:10:32,570
Thank you for that.

1275
02:10:33,530 --> 02:10:35,850
And I would just make a comment about this list.

1276
02:10:36,050 --> 02:10:39,150
I mean, obviously there's probably an order at which things can happen

1277
02:10:39,150 --> 02:10:40,570
and it can't all happen at once.

1278
02:10:41,190 --> 02:10:44,850
But in terms of the wish list, especially with some of the smaller items,

1279
02:10:44,850 --> 02:10:46,530
but also with the Ventrac Moors.

1280
02:10:46,730 --> 02:10:49,450
I mean, Megan, you mentioned earlier, you said it really well.

1281
02:10:50,610 --> 02:10:54,590
Things that are costing us more to maintain than they are just to replace.

1282
02:10:55,010 --> 02:10:57,270
And I think that's an issue here in parks.

1283
02:10:57,270 --> 02:11:05,530
and between our parks trust fund and I did a quick add up this is what 300,000 or something

1284
02:11:05,530 --> 02:11:11,130
and I think we have a lot of that in our parks trust fund already. What do we have in our

1285
02:11:11,130 --> 02:11:11,850
parks trust fund?

1286
02:11:14,010 --> 02:11:19,730
240. I would I don't know how you want to do it budget-wise but I would I would also

1287
02:11:19,730 --> 02:11:24,390
respectfully request that we move this from our wish list to let's get it done as is appropriate

1288
02:11:24,390 --> 02:11:31,090
time wise and with staff and crew and to accomplish because I think I just I'm gonna go out there and

1289
02:11:31,090 --> 02:11:38,250
say that our parks have been ignored a bit and it's time to really take some effort and some love

1290
02:11:39,030 --> 02:11:44,850
towards our parks and so if there's any way I could encourage some prioritization of those items

1291
02:11:44,850 --> 02:11:46,810
from wishlist to let's do it.

1292
02:11:54,500 --> 02:11:59,120
I believe when that funding was first set aside it was specifically

1293
02:11:59,120 --> 02:12:28,100
set aside for improvements, but if your board is open to improvements, equipment, we can transfer the money in for, you know, whatever you want to, I think when it was originally set aside, there was a specific projects that you guys wanted to see, but nobody there was no clear direction on what those projects were going to be, and so why the money still sitting in the trust.

1294
02:12:29,260 --> 02:12:31,280
is what you know why it's still there?

1295
02:12:31,700 --> 02:12:33,600
Well, I would defer to the department as well there,

1296
02:12:33,680 --> 02:12:36,400
but I do think that at this point,

1297
02:12:36,400 --> 02:12:38,920
we have maintenance issues that have become greater

1298
02:12:38,920 --> 02:12:42,980
than improvements or we need improvements too,

1299
02:12:43,060 --> 02:12:45,280
but we have maintenance issues that are desperate.

1300
02:12:45,380 --> 02:12:47,380
We saw all the park kids or all the school kids

1301
02:12:47,380 --> 02:12:50,200
from big coin in here in May and, you know,

1302
02:12:50,420 --> 02:12:52,100
they're getting splinters and they're kidding.

1303
02:12:52,620 --> 02:12:53,600
There's a lot of issues.

1304
02:12:53,960 --> 02:12:56,460
So I think we're all open to transferring,

1305
02:12:56,460 --> 02:13:01,320
using the money and as long as you're a board supportive of it. That's why you

1306
02:13:01,320 --> 02:13:07,080
know this is a great discussion so if equipment is on you know list and you

1307
02:13:07,080 --> 02:13:12,260
guys are happy to fund that with that trust and I guess I would just say

1308
02:13:12,260 --> 02:13:16,500
equipment is part of it but when I look at the wish list we have some clear safety

1309
02:13:16,500 --> 02:13:21,040
issues with the bridges and I would maybe throw out two other things for

1310
02:13:21,040 --> 02:13:24,520
consideration we're talking about making you said it really well we have an

1311
02:13:24,520 --> 02:13:28,560
ADA gazebo, but no path to the, so we have the same thing in

1312
02:13:28,560 --> 02:13:31,400
in Mendon Hall now, where we have the ADA accessible

1313
02:13:31,400 --> 02:13:34,600
restrooms, but the path to them, which was where you could

1314
02:13:34,600 --> 02:13:37,940
drive in, has now been blocked off because at least that

1315
02:13:37,940 --> 02:13:40,620
the school had went back to DWP. So there's no access to

1316
02:13:40,620 --> 02:13:46,180
actually get to the ADA restrooms, and that's a problem. If you

1317
02:13:46,180 --> 02:13:48,780
want to go careening across the grass and the old playground

1318
02:13:48,780 --> 02:13:52,220
stuff, I guess maybe, but it's probably not great. And then

1319
02:13:52,220 --> 02:13:59,680
Then the other thing I would add is, I saw it somewhere in here that's, oh, okay, the

1320
02:13:59,680 --> 02:14:09,400
the vault toilets, I saw it somewhere in here, basically the Honeywagon, that, okay, yeah,

1321
02:14:09,560 --> 02:14:14,820
so Diaz, like, no, I guess I was thinking to send else, but there's somewhere on here

1322
02:14:14,820 --> 02:14:21,580
I saw where we had a need, our employees are running to Diaz, like, to pump RVs, I'm

1323
02:14:21,580 --> 02:14:22,680
not quite sure how that's working.

1324
02:14:23,500 --> 02:14:26,500
But what has been noted in this wish list

1325
02:14:26,500 --> 02:14:29,980
is that we don't have an RV dump station

1326
02:14:29,980 --> 02:14:32,420
between Lone Pine and Bishop.

1327
02:14:32,800 --> 02:14:35,500
And I can tell you where our viewers and visitors

1328
02:14:35,500 --> 02:14:36,120
are dumping.

1329
02:14:37,280 --> 02:14:39,820
They're going from Tinamaha to Boost,

1330
02:14:40,780 --> 02:14:44,220
all these different campgrounds pulling out on our roads

1331
02:14:44,220 --> 02:14:45,020
and dumping.

1332
02:14:45,440 --> 02:14:47,440
So I've got a real issue here.

1333
02:14:47,520 --> 02:14:51,140
And I know that I think I'd seen it in the wish list

1334
02:14:51,140 --> 02:14:58,500
where if we can where do they see this it's on the slide 29 major project option yeah there you go

1335
02:14:58,500 --> 02:14:59,760
yeah, and basically

1336
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:07,000
Our staff is accepting calls to run down to Diaz to pump, but if we could somehow put a dump

1337
02:15:07,000 --> 02:15:13,240
station in at Diaz, so employees weren't having to run down there, and then have the employees

1338
02:15:13,240 --> 02:15:18,600
available and maybe advertise it a little bit, I get calls all the time from, well, even

1339
02:15:18,600 --> 02:15:23,180
from North County, where do we dump, where do there's nowhere to dump and somebody's dumped

1340
02:15:23,180 --> 02:15:32,600
around Valley Road or so or Pine Creek Road or Baker Creek Road. It's sorry to bring that up but

1341
02:15:32,600 --> 02:15:33,140
it's a fact.

1342
02:15:36,170 --> 02:15:40,770
Yep and that so that does bring us to the next slide which is kind of the big big

1343
02:15:40,770 --> 02:15:47,770
projects. Oh sorry. Well I'll just tag on to the dump station. I think some places are doing there's

1344
02:15:47,770 --> 02:15:53,970
there's dump stations that you have to pay and and that they're not total loss you know once you get

1345
02:15:53,970 --> 02:16:01,850
it in so upfront the money and then and I think people are willing to pay a little bit if there

1346
02:16:01,850 --> 02:16:09,110
is one. And this goes in Lombine, you know, there's no dump station for telecreate campground,

1347
02:16:09,530 --> 02:16:18,230
portageo campground, Lombine campground with portal campground. There's a ton of campgrounds that there's,

1348
02:16:18,230 --> 02:16:23,890
You know there is no dump station for and I don't know if they're allowing it at Boulder Creek

1349
02:16:23,890 --> 02:16:27,610
They might be they're charging for it, but I'm not even sure on that anyway

1350
02:16:27,610 --> 02:16:31,670
I think it's 25 bucks a double there when we're respectfully requesting things

1351
02:16:31,670 --> 02:16:37,170
I'm going to respectfully request that we throw away the the picnic tables behind the courthouse

1352
02:16:37,170 --> 02:16:44,670
And buy new ones that are that are actually nice and and that you don't get splinters on from those either

1353
02:16:44,670 --> 02:16:45,710
So just

1354
02:16:45,710 --> 02:16:48,070
as long as we're talking about picnic tables.

1355
02:16:48,390 --> 02:16:49,690
You guys are really dreamin' this year.

1356
02:16:49,830 --> 02:16:50,150
I like it.

1357
02:16:50,730 --> 02:16:51,750
A bit of a pet peeve.

1358
02:16:52,110 --> 02:16:53,010
I mean, it's embarrassing.

1359
02:16:53,230 --> 02:16:56,130
We go meet with L-A-G-W-P commissioners

1360
02:16:56,130 --> 02:16:57,870
and go have lunch on the picnic tables

1361
02:16:57,870 --> 02:17:00,410
that you can't sit on parts of them.

1362
02:17:00,850 --> 02:17:02,890
I mean, they're anyway.

1363
02:17:08,210 --> 02:17:08,910
Respectfully, yeah.

1364
02:17:09,090 --> 02:17:09,990
Well, yeah.

1365
02:17:10,130 --> 02:17:11,910
And as long as we're talking about dump stations,

1366
02:17:12,290 --> 02:17:14,450
I do try to encourage private sector,

1367
02:17:14,610 --> 02:17:16,070
but it's almost like the landfills.

1368
02:17:16,310 --> 02:17:17,530
If you get the rates too high,

1369
02:17:17,530 --> 02:17:23,870
people just aren't going to. So it's one of those situations where there is a

1370
02:17:23,870 --> 02:17:28,290
private, there is some private sector options but they're just trying to

1371
02:17:28,290 --> 02:17:35,600
cover their costs and I think we need to supply dump stations. So noted yeah

1372
02:17:35,600 --> 02:17:39,840
there are there are a lot of nice to have on the major project options list. I'm

1373
02:17:39,840 --> 02:17:44,660
definitely hearing that a dump station is a priority. I would agree with that.

1374
02:17:51,380 --> 02:17:51,900
No

1375
02:17:51,900 --> 02:17:59,020
questions, concerns or any more discussion about I haven't really walked through the major

1376
02:17:59,020 --> 02:18:00,360
project options slide.

1377
02:18:01,220 --> 02:18:08,300
You can see on there these are these are big dollar big ticket items, things that would

1378
02:18:08,300 --> 02:18:14,080
be beautiful, wonderful to have, $1.2 million in beautifying mill pond.

1379
02:18:14,280 --> 02:18:18,480
I think all of us would love to see that but these are things to save for.

1380
02:18:18,480 --> 02:18:25,320
So this is kind of once we get our ducks in a row with our upgrades wish list and our concrete

1381
02:18:25,320 --> 02:18:29,880
picnic tables and our day-to-day together these are things we can shoot for.

1382
02:18:30,920 --> 02:18:35,160
I think you're right on track track with that. Let's take care of our critical maintenance

1383
02:18:35,160 --> 02:18:39,800
and upgrade issues and then then we need to start figuring out how to prioritize our

1384
02:18:39,800 --> 02:18:46,120
our major project dreams. But I would think that yeah it's up to the the borders of

1385
02:18:46,120 --> 02:18:51,360
I guess, but at some point, as we start to prioritize these, these would be a good use of LACTF funds.

1386
02:18:53,780 --> 02:19:05,080
And yeah, I think they would because these would be citizen facing improvements where citizens could see the benefits of those funds that would improve the facilities they use.

1387
02:19:05,380 --> 02:19:10,980
So I think that would be a discussion or workshop for as we go along, but yeah, I like how you've done this.

1388
02:19:13,480 --> 02:19:23,500
Yeah, so I think that the upgrade wish list seems totally reasonable and doable to me,

1389
02:19:23,500 --> 02:19:28,880
and if we have money in the trust fund to do that, that makes sense.

1390
02:19:29,660 --> 02:19:38,340
And I agree that I think the LATC F is the money that we have talked for a long time,

1391
02:19:38,340 --> 02:19:46,800
that a third of that money would be for public facing improvements and I've been advocating for a

1392
02:19:46,800 --> 02:19:52,600
while for more sports fields and improve parks and you know we've been talking about it for a

1393
02:19:52,600 --> 02:19:58,020
very long time with the State of the Parks study that we did and you know we've had the list and I

1394
02:19:58,020 --> 02:20:04,700
think we've had the prioritization for a while and you add up all of the numbers in the major project

1395
02:20:04,700 --> 02:20:10,640
looks up for the variables because we don't know what those are. But you know, that is completely

1396
02:20:10,640 --> 02:20:17,660
within the amount of money that we have and the LATCF. So I think these are priorities that

1397
02:20:17,660 --> 02:20:23,740
we should make now when we look at both the lighting project and the ball field improvements project

1398
02:20:23,740 --> 02:20:33,820
at Millpond. The last three years we've had impacted sports field usage for youth sports definitely,

1399
02:20:33,820 --> 02:20:52,580
But also for adult sports, you know, it's been growing and that's a good thing and that's what we want to support and so I would advocate that as much capacity as we have within both the GMO and within the parks department that that we should be looking on moving forward.

1400
02:20:53,180 --> 02:20:56,640
This year with these as many of these projects as we can.

1401
02:20:56,640 --> 02:20:57,600
So

1402
02:21:04,730 --> 02:21:08,050
I agree with that statement that Supervisor Griffith just made.

1403
02:21:08,970 --> 02:21:15,790
I've been advocating since I was elected or more sports fields are

1404
02:21:19,470 --> 02:21:19,790
youth.

1405
02:21:20,390 --> 02:21:25,310
If we don't invest in our youth, then who are we investing in in our young adults?

1406
02:21:26,030 --> 02:21:29,430
We need to invest in them.

1407
02:21:30,070 --> 02:21:33,290
Our sports fields need help.

1408
02:21:34,010 --> 02:21:51,610
along with our parks. Our parks need a lot of help. They need work. If we can use our LATCF money to get these projects done, we can use our trust to get these maintenance projects done, then we need to do it.

1409
02:21:51,610 --> 02:22:03,050
The 10-year soccer team last year was from Lompine, the one that the vision.

1410
02:22:04,250 --> 02:22:13,430
So it's, no, I'm just saying, soccer is now done for the whole county in Bishop on

1411
02:22:13,430 --> 02:22:14,230
the sports field.

1412
02:22:15,950 --> 02:22:21,090
So there was like 886 kids that played soccer in Bishop last year.

1413
02:22:21,830 --> 02:22:32,250
So it's it's it's a needed it's a needed investment. So I think we need to look at that very carefully and move forward.

1414
02:22:34,970 --> 02:22:49,430
So appreciate those comments and I sort of want to react with a question, well a thought and then a question and then get just a little more understanding of whether there's.

1415
02:22:50,350 --> 02:22:55,170
general support. And I think that there's one of the things that we've talked about consistently

1416
02:22:55,170 --> 02:22:59,970
throughout the budget process within the PMO with public works is that I think there's

1417
02:22:59,970 --> 02:23:06,910
two fundamental considerations with any one of these projects. The first is funding and

1418
02:23:06,910 --> 02:23:13,310
the second is capacity. And I think we are in a very lucky position with respect to LATCF

1419
02:23:13,310 --> 02:23:18,670
that we probably can fund a lot of things, but we don't necessarily have an endless amount

1420
02:23:18,670 --> 02:23:24,410
of capacity out there to get things done. So we have been kind of going back and forth.

1421
02:23:24,470 --> 02:23:27,890
I mean you saw that with respect to the deferred maintenance list and other special projects.

1422
02:23:28,750 --> 02:23:33,850
And I think the same sort of lens and thought process is appropriate with regard to

1423
02:23:33,850 --> 02:23:39,470
the parks investments fully agree. Parks have been overlooked for years and we're in a position

1424
02:23:39,470 --> 02:23:46,270
where I think we can move some of these initiatives forward. I do believe that maintenance should

1425
02:23:46,270 --> 02:24:01,770
and come first before new efforts, especially when we, as an organization, public works specifically, are responsible for carrying out that maintenance and what level of capacity exists if we can't contract that workout should be taken into account.

1426
02:24:02,210 --> 02:24:06,030
I think that's a very appropriate first sort of lens, if you will.

1427
02:24:06,490 --> 02:24:14,250
I think any ADA or risk issues should be a very appropriate next lens in terms of replacing playground equipment.

1428
02:24:14,250 --> 02:24:18,910
I mean, that's a forward leaning effort that also checks the other box of, you know,

1429
02:24:19,010 --> 02:24:22,850
like we were just discussing with Mendenhall, so that makes great sense.

1430
02:24:22,990 --> 02:24:25,430
I think health and safety components like the dump station.

1431
02:24:26,150 --> 02:24:29,770
You know, I think that that helps us prioritize some of the, I guess,

1432
02:24:29,910 --> 02:24:32,390
more backward looking things that are out there.

1433
02:24:33,570 --> 02:24:39,230
So I think that I'm seeing nodding and support generally around that level of logic,

1434
02:24:39,250 --> 02:24:43,750
which we can use in coordination with public works to help prioritize some of these things.

1435
02:24:44,570 --> 02:24:48,650
So I'm going to kind of pivot and ask a couple of other questions associated.

1436
02:24:48,870 --> 02:24:56,590
So one is in, I think we're going to lean on the trust to the extent that it is appropriate

1437
02:24:56,590 --> 02:24:58,190
to do so for some of this stuff.

1438
02:24:58,590 --> 02:25:03,710
We're just talking about the potential use of other funding like geothermal money that is

1439
02:25:03,710 --> 02:25:09,090
not touching LITCF, and I think to the extent that we can do that, we would do so to try

1440
02:25:09,090 --> 02:25:10,410
to get more projects into the queue.

1441
02:25:11,030 --> 02:25:15,330
But I think I'm hearing support to draw on LATC up

1442
02:25:15,330 --> 02:25:19,870
where appropriate to fund some of those sort of

1443
02:25:21,770 --> 02:25:24,610
needed improvements that kind of clear those bars.

1444
02:25:24,830 --> 02:25:28,670
And I just want to see if there's alignment around that

1445
02:25:28,670 --> 02:25:31,770
for not even looking at the major project investments,

1446
02:25:31,770 --> 02:25:33,330
but to kind of get us caught up.

1447
02:25:34,210 --> 02:25:35,430
Is that...

1448
02:25:37,540 --> 02:25:39,020
I guess I'll just say yeah,

1449
02:25:39,020 --> 02:25:40,820
I think you framed it really well.

1450
02:25:41,940 --> 02:25:45,960
I think the critical maintenance, as Megan put,

1451
02:25:46,100 --> 02:25:49,580
when she, one of the lenses is things

1452
02:25:49,580 --> 02:25:51,780
that are costing us more to maintain now

1453
02:25:51,780 --> 02:25:53,460
than if we just buy and replace new,

1454
02:25:53,500 --> 02:25:55,960
like the mowers and the tractor and things like that.

1455
02:25:56,160 --> 02:25:58,060
When you guys are spending half a day,

1456
02:25:58,080 --> 02:25:59,580
just trying to get it fixed, to get it running,

1457
02:25:59,720 --> 02:26:00,520
those kinds of things.

1458
02:26:01,240 --> 02:26:03,840
I think those are appropriate uses of whatever.

1459
02:26:04,440 --> 02:26:06,500
But I do think, and I fully agree with what

1460
02:26:06,500 --> 02:26:12,800
supervisors have said with regards to the major project options, I just think that you're

1461
02:26:12,800 --> 02:26:18,300
you're framing it correctly when you're saying there's those critical ADA and maintenance

1462
02:26:18,300 --> 02:26:23,820
things that need to go first and then some thought into how where do we have project partners

1463
02:26:23,820 --> 02:26:30,500
on these major project options. We may have project partners in some of these areas and you mentioned

1464
02:26:30,500 --> 02:26:35,620
other potential funding sources like geothermal but I think that just requires a bit of thought.

1465
02:26:37,880 --> 02:26:42,320
But fully, fully in support, but just a bit of thought with a prioritization on those

1466
02:26:44,040 --> 02:26:49,460
critical playground things, safety things, assessing the bathrooms things, a dump station,

1467
02:26:49,980 --> 02:26:50,940
those kinds of things.

1468
02:26:51,640 --> 02:26:57,760
So, love all these projects on here, just others are more critical, I think, at the very

1469
02:26:57,760 --> 02:27:00,780
in some moment if capacity is the issue.

1470
02:27:05,290 --> 02:27:10,770
So thank you for that comment because that was sort of the next branch of the question

1471
02:27:10,770 --> 02:27:15,890
that I was going to ask is that I do believe we have some catch-up work to do and maybe

1472
02:27:15,890 --> 02:27:21,790
before we look at a $1.2 million investment, for example, at NILPON, we should look at some

1473
02:27:21,790 --> 02:27:26,770
of these other catch-up things assuming the capacity doesn't exist to do it all this year

1474
02:27:26,770 --> 02:27:33,790
right now, but I do think that the first one on that list, the Bishop Park Lighting Project,

1475
02:27:34,550 --> 02:27:41,410
is a request that came to us from the city of Bishop in a couple of different passes, where we do

1476
02:27:41,410 --> 02:27:46,890
have a partnership there. There is a significant investment going into that, and they have basically

1477
02:27:46,890 --> 02:27:52,800
asked us if we would be in partnership for a small portion of that project, where it actually doesn't

1478
02:27:52,800 --> 02:27:57,400
require capacity, it just requires a contribution of funds. That's something that I think could

1479
02:27:57,400 --> 02:28:03,120
be brought or executed this year. But I think there needs to be some buy-in from your board about

1480
02:28:03,120 --> 02:28:05,820
actually bringing money to bear in that one.

1481
02:28:11,570 --> 02:28:14,250
Thank you for bringing that to light because

1482
02:28:14,250 --> 02:28:19,390
that was going to be my next question is we have a partner there that we could just

1483
02:28:20,270 --> 02:28:27,310
agree with to bring field six forward and just fund their they're going to do all the work.

1484
02:28:27,310 --> 02:28:48,010
so that doesn't bear anything on our staff to do and I agree with your statement that our maintenance needs to and our forward projects need to get done first before our prod these prod major projects to put any more burden on our staff.

1485
02:28:50,070 --> 02:28:59,110
The playground equipment would I think would come next because that is a safety issue to the children that play on that equipment.

1486
02:28:59,590 --> 02:28:59,590
So

1487
02:29:04,270 --> 02:29:07,630
I

1488
02:29:10,060 --> 02:29:20,160
don't disagree with anything that's been said so far, but as I am always ever cautious when we're spending one time funds.

1489
02:29:20,160 --> 02:29:28,740
I would ask that we not make a decision on this today, but that staff would bring back

1490
02:29:28,740 --> 02:29:31,800
a fully developed, I

1491
02:29:34,970 --> 02:29:41,410
guess, prioritization, but also in contrast with the strategic plan

1492
02:29:41,750 --> 02:29:47,830
that we have worked so hard because there's a lot of one time funding on that strategic

1493
02:29:47,830 --> 02:29:53,890
plan and before and I'm not saying that parks are not important I'm not saying

1494
02:29:53,890 --> 02:29:59,930
that they're not in need they are but to supervisor roger's point we do

1495
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:29,980
Have partners. I think we need to exhaust every other avenue of funding for anything before we go to those, because LATCF is truly one time funding and when it's gone, it is gone. So, you know, and that was the point of that strategic plan and the point of laying that over these budget discussions. So I would ask that that be brought back to us as a fully developed item before we come back.

1496
02:30:29,980 --> 02:30:30,540
commit the money?

1497
02:30:32,640 --> 02:30:34,180
Yeah, and I appreciate that comment.

1498
02:30:34,280 --> 02:30:38,360
And to be 100% clear, that's exactly what today was for was

1499
02:30:38,360 --> 02:30:40,340
to throw everything on the table,

1500
02:30:41,080 --> 02:30:43,900
have some basic discussion, get some ideas and feedback,

1501
02:30:43,980 --> 02:30:46,160
which I think you've done a great job of providing us

1502
02:30:46,580 --> 02:30:49,800
some of the lens is for prioritization.

1503
02:30:49,800 --> 02:30:51,980
And then as we build the budget,

1504
02:30:51,980 --> 02:30:54,460
that is essentially what we would be doing

1505
02:30:54,460 --> 02:30:56,920
is bringing back a recommendation based on what we heard,

1506
02:30:57,400 --> 02:30:59,480
based on what we hear from public works

1507
02:30:59,480 --> 02:31:06,700
in terms of capacity being able to actually execute things, some of the other ideas that

1508
02:31:06,700 --> 02:31:11,040
were thrown out today by the budget team including one that was just kind of whispered in my ear

1509
02:31:11,040 --> 02:31:15,640
about maybe a park's capital improvement fund and actually moving from that trust to something

1510
02:31:15,640 --> 02:31:21,700
that is more forward leaning. So we will, I think with a lot of the comments made today, be able to

1511
02:31:21,700 --> 02:31:27,680
shape that a little more carefully and thoughtfully and bring back some recommendations to you that

1512
02:31:27,680 --> 02:31:30,580
will basically be in the form of the CIO recommended budget.

1513
02:31:33,080 --> 02:31:38,320
I was going to say similar is that you're hearing from the board an interest in parks and

1514
02:31:38,320 --> 02:31:43,920
I think we've done a number of years we've talked about this and I do think, you know,

1515
02:31:44,480 --> 02:31:49,640
we don't, doesn't have to be, let's just start lobbing off some of these if we can.

1516
02:31:49,760 --> 02:31:55,300
I think that's, and come back to us, I'll just mention one other thing, I don't know where

1517
02:31:55,300 --> 02:32:05,160
the DSLate grant, the CalTrans grant, it isn't displayed anywhere, but it is, there's, I

1518
02:32:05,160 --> 02:32:09,960
don't know, a million and a million half or something out there to do that, and I hope

1519
02:32:09,960 --> 02:32:14,860
we, that's a funded project, I hope we keep it going, and then I'll just, one other thing

1520
02:32:14,860 --> 02:32:22,720
that sometimes falls through here is we do have a park out in Southeast County in Chishon,

1521
02:32:22,720 --> 02:32:36,020
that, you know, is rough at best, and it would be nice to think about maybe some improvements there as we think about all of these improvements.

1522
02:32:36,260 --> 02:32:41,220
I'm not saying necessarily any one thing, but don't forget.

1523
02:32:41,220 --> 02:32:41,280
Yeah,

1524
02:32:46,250 --> 02:32:48,770
I think rustic is the term for tocopa.

1525
02:32:55,830 --> 02:33:02,550
I'll be a little more forward leaning on this just in that like we identified parks as a

1526
02:33:03,270 --> 02:33:15,210
need for both deferred maintenance and improvements a decade ago and we have you know repeatedly put fun balance when we had access fun balance we have dedicated some of that to parks.

1527
02:33:15,210 --> 02:33:25,130
We went through the extended state of the park's planning process to identify what the

1528
02:33:25,130 --> 02:33:31,910
needs are and the potentials are, and I've heard and I think other supervisors have heard

1529
02:33:31,910 --> 02:33:38,830
over and over again about the need for these sorts of improvements, and we said that a big

1530
02:33:38,830 --> 02:33:46,170
chunk of the LATCF is one time funds that can be used towards forward facing benefits to

1531
02:33:46,170 --> 02:33:53,410
the public and parks are a great way for that. So I agree that obviously we need to go through

1532
02:33:53,410 --> 02:34:00,950
a fully fleshed out process with this, but I would like to see benefits this year that we could

1533
02:34:00,950 --> 02:34:03,630
show up to the public and say here is something nice.

1534
02:34:07,570 --> 02:34:10,090
Daniel, get busy. You need to get on out there.

1535
02:34:11,810 --> 02:34:13,030
I don't know why you're sitting here.

1536
02:34:17,430 --> 02:34:22,870
I think this is, it's very, it's helpful conversation and just hearing that there's

1537
02:34:22,870 --> 02:34:27,910
sort of alignment around a handful of these things. I do really, you know, I want to acknowledge

1538
02:34:27,910 --> 02:34:33,850
Daniel and public works team as a whole for helping not only take, we had a number of sort of forward

1539
02:34:33,850 --> 02:34:38,830
leaning initiatives that came in through the strategic planning process that were right spots

1540
02:34:38,830 --> 02:34:46,190
that multiple people latched on to and I think is, you know, public works has sort of gotten

1541
02:34:46,190 --> 02:34:51,630
a little more capacity and looked at this. I think the lists that were produced by them

1542
02:34:51,630 --> 02:34:57,750
helped sort of rationalize it a little more broadly. And I think, you know, we all recognize that

1543
02:34:57,750 --> 02:35:03,230
there is a need there. And I just want to, you know, recognize Supervisor Orals comments as well.

1544
02:35:03,230 --> 02:35:10,450
I mean, there was a number of references to parks and community infrastructure as a whole

1545
02:35:10,450 --> 02:35:11,450
and strategic plan.

1546
02:35:11,770 --> 02:35:14,550
It is one of many other verticals that are there.

1547
02:35:15,230 --> 02:35:22,530
And so we are not turning a blind eye to any of that and also recognizing that parks

1548
02:35:22,530 --> 02:35:27,970
is the one thing that kind of all supervisors said we should put some effort toward.

1549
02:35:28,150 --> 02:35:31,350
There's an internal recognition of that as well.

1550
02:35:31,350 --> 02:35:39,230
And so it kind of got a little more attention this year and it's not meaning that other things aren't going to get attention as well, but.

1551
02:35:40,310 --> 02:35:43,990
I think that was sort of how we arrived at this conversation specifically.

1552
02:35:46,430 --> 02:35:53,870
Yeah, I agree with everything it's been said and thank you for that and I agree with Supervisor oral and yeah, we all want to prioritize parks.

1553
02:35:53,870 --> 02:35:59,110
I think we all want to see, especially those one time funds go to benefit our citizens as much as possible.

1554
02:35:59,110 --> 02:36:08,530
But I do think there's caution and keeping those maintenance things that have been identified

1555
02:36:08,530 --> 02:36:16,370
as five priority funds now, but the wish list items, which I think we all support, are

1556
02:36:16,370 --> 02:36:21,850
there other partners in Scott's mentioned the city, of course, that's a good one, but other

1557
02:36:21,850 --> 02:36:39,210
resources of funding, you know, LWCF, you know, built some of Millpond and Bishop Park and I believe there's a longer term lease on Bishop City Park. So perhaps there's some funding opportunities there as well to help kind of enhance what we have with LACTF.

1558
02:36:39,790 --> 02:36:51,750
But anyway, the one thing I did want to say, I think I just heard was I think there's a need of a few years back where established was it a capital improvement or a deferred or a depreciation funding for solid waste.

1559
02:36:51,750 --> 02:37:03,510
for equipment. And I think that I just hear that. I think we need to do something similar, whether it's for equipment or what not for, for parks, maybe other public works.

1560
02:37:04,130 --> 02:37:20,250
Yeah, everywhere roads. Maybe there's already that. But I mean, the idea that equipment needs to be replaced or upgraded when it wears out and having a capital improvement or depreciation fund that we put some money into makes some sense.

1561
02:37:20,250 --> 02:37:24,510
So have that out there too, and our thoughts.

1562
02:37:28,760 --> 02:37:29,500
Thank you, everyone.

1563
02:37:29,780 --> 02:37:31,680
And I do want to call out our public works team,

1564
02:37:32,780 --> 02:37:36,740
who have spent a lot of time and a lot of hair pulling,

1565
02:37:37,060 --> 02:37:39,400
coming up with these lists and giving the background

1566
02:37:39,400 --> 02:37:40,960
and where we are on all the projects.

1567
02:37:41,360 --> 02:37:44,560
So it's been a huge lift for them on top of everything else.

1568
02:37:45,220 --> 02:37:45,840
Thank you, guys.

1569
02:37:47,580 --> 02:37:49,520
Nate, do you want to close this out?

1570
02:37:49,660 --> 02:37:51,160
Or what do we have here next?

1571
02:37:51,860 --> 02:37:58,420
Yeah, I mean, I think that, really, this is good sort of inclusive conversation.

1572
02:37:58,720 --> 02:38:02,260
I don't know if Amy or Denelle have anything that they want to add, but

1573
02:38:04,570 --> 02:38:06,310
yeah, that's a

1574
02:38:06,310 --> 02:38:06,730
great point.

1575
02:38:06,890 --> 02:38:11,990
It's not sure if there's points, concerns, comments from any of the other department heads

1576
02:38:11,990 --> 02:38:16,290
that have not spoken today around anything before we start to wrap it up.

1577
02:38:23,660 --> 02:38:27,340
Sorry, going back to the deferred maintenance list.

1578
02:38:27,340 --> 02:38:48,360
I appreciate you you've already said this Nate, but part of what we've really come to realize in the past couple of months with some power outages and some disasters that we've responded to is that our cooling centers or need for cooling and heating is not is broad.

1579
02:38:48,920 --> 02:38:56,460
All of our facilities need attention and Statham tends to be the one where at least in the last couple of years, most of our.

1580
02:38:58,280 --> 02:39:05,780
Disasters have been, but I just want to put a plug in particular really is a high priority as well because of the heat and then.

1581
02:39:05,780 --> 02:39:08,040
and then, and then needs that.

1582
02:39:08,220 --> 02:39:11,200
Faith and does not have a backup generator, is that correct?

1583
02:39:11,400 --> 02:39:15,500
There are backup generators in most of our locations

1584
02:39:15,500 --> 02:39:17,680
that are used as either polling centers

1585
02:39:17,680 --> 02:39:20,020
or for our senior services.

1586
02:39:20,380 --> 02:39:22,580
But my understanding is for the most part

1587
02:39:22,580 --> 02:39:24,360
we've used specific grant funding.

1588
02:39:24,680 --> 02:39:28,500
So for the senior services aspect,

1589
02:39:28,700 --> 02:39:31,680
we're really concerned about keeping the refrigerators

1590
02:39:31,680 --> 02:39:33,780
and presers going.

1591
02:39:33,780 --> 02:39:41,520
for that. We don't necessarily have capacity to run the air conditioner or swamp coolers in

1592
02:39:41,520 --> 02:39:46,920
the case of Tacopa and so those HVAC upgrades that we're talking about. I just want to mention

1593
02:39:46,920 --> 02:39:52,540
that Tacopa is also a high priority for us so we'll continue to work with administration and

1594
02:39:52,540 --> 02:39:59,320
public works around how that looks going forward. And I know that Chris Cox looks like he's about to

1595
02:39:59,320 --> 02:40:03,740
say something, but he has been doing work on this very issue for those facilities.

1596
02:40:04,040 --> 02:40:06,380
So we are actively discussing that.

1597
02:40:07,100 --> 02:40:11,280
And I will say backing out from the specific, more broadly, one of the things that I've

1598
02:40:11,280 --> 02:40:16,840
been talking to public works about, and I think we'll kind of move more down the road on a

1599
02:40:16,840 --> 02:40:17,240
little bit.

1600
02:40:17,720 --> 02:40:22,460
This next year is a much broader look at our facilities as a whole.

1601
02:40:22,460 --> 02:40:28,820
we've, you know, recently had conversations about some of our old, I don't want to say abandoned,

1602
02:40:29,200 --> 02:40:32,740
but they feel a little bit abandoned, sometimes county facilities like South Street.

1603
02:40:33,460 --> 02:40:40,060
We need to have a comprehensive capital facilities, if not improvement maintenance plan,

1604
02:40:40,660 --> 02:40:46,160
and be able to understand what is really needed where, and be able to prioritize that effectively,

1605
02:40:46,560 --> 02:40:50,740
not just in terms of putting money toward on a year-over-year basis, but, you know,

1606
02:40:50,740 --> 02:40:54,140
of having also some forward leaning thought board as well.

1607
02:40:54,380 --> 02:40:57,260
And so those conversations are starting,

1608
02:40:57,600 --> 02:41:00,080
we certainly have a fair bit of work to do,

1609
02:41:00,240 --> 02:41:02,040
but hopefully by this time next year,

1610
02:41:02,220 --> 02:41:05,420
we'll be able to do something much like we did this year

1611
02:41:05,420 --> 02:41:08,280
for the projects and the parks

1612
02:41:08,280 --> 02:41:11,180
and bring back something that looks a little more thoughtful

1613
02:41:11,180 --> 02:41:12,400
and comprehensive there too.

1614
02:41:14,880 --> 02:41:19,520
So I don't know if there's anything more from the two of you.

1615
02:41:19,700 --> 02:41:21,700
I guess I'll just sort of wrap by saying,

1616
02:41:21,700 --> 02:41:28,560
I think that this has helped us, at least me, in terms of here board priorities, here

1617
02:41:29,040 --> 02:41:35,940
thought and rationale from department heads around physicians and hopefully this will

1618
02:41:35,940 --> 02:41:40,640
feed into our thinking, it will feed into our thinking and hopefully it will allow us

1619
02:41:40,640 --> 02:41:48,060
to bring something to all of you at the end of the month through the published CAO recommended

1620
02:41:48,060 --> 02:41:52,560
budget and obviously that's kind of the next bite at the Apple if you will and

1621
02:41:52,560 --> 02:41:57,660
we'll start the conversations formally on the 10th of September around any

1622
02:41:58,280 --> 02:42:01,820
tweaks or adjustments or other concerns that you all would like to see in

1623
02:42:01,820 --> 02:42:01,960
that.

1624
02:42:07,390 --> 02:42:11,630
Okay, if there's nothing else, what would

1625
02:42:11,630 --> 02:42:14,630
during today's meeting. Thanks, everybody, for coming.

1626
02:42:22,330 --> 02:42:25,070
Thank you. It's been a real...