1 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,520 I'd like to call to order the Arredell 2 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,120 County Board of Commissioner 6 o'clock 3 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,960 regular meeting for Tuesday, August the 4 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,160 18th, 2026. At this time, I'd like to 5 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,600 ask Commissioner Halp to give the 6 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:22,880 invocation for the Board of 7 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,880 Commissioners as we seek guidance and 8 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,560 wisdom in the work we're about to do for 9 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,759 the citizens of Ardale County. 10 00:05:29,759 --> 00:05:31,440 Lord, we come to you tonight asking for 11 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:32,880 wisdom and guidance, Lord, in all 12 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,880 decisions. We ask for prayers for our 13 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,440 students, parents, staff, and for a new 14 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,440 school year, Lord, and keep them safe 15 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,600 every day as they come and go for our 16 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,600 school and all the importance that they 17 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,600 provide for our communities. We ask for 18 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,360 prayers for our military, Lord, and our 19 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,039 first responders and their families, 20 00:05:49,039 --> 00:05:50,960 Lord, for all that they do for our 21 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,199 country and our our municipalities and 22 00:05:53,199 --> 00:05:55,600 our county and our state. Lord, prayers 23 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,360 for our president, our leaders to do 24 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,880 what's right for the American people. 25 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,960 Lord, keep them focused on that, Lord, 26 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,479 and help them to please you with all 27 00:06:02,479 --> 00:06:04,720 their decisions. Lord, please bless the 28 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,400 United States as we are not perfect, 29 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:07,680 Lord, but we're still the best country 30 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,759 in the world, Lord. In Jesus name, we 31 00:06:09,759 --> 00:06:11,600 come to you tonight. We we give you 32 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,120 praise and glory in all that you do. And 33 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,560 thank you for all our many blessings. In 34 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,319 Jesus name we pray. Amen. 35 00:06:16,319 --> 00:06:18,230 >> Amen. At this time, I'd like to ask 36 00:06:18,230 --> 00:06:18,240 » Amen. At this time, I'd like to ask 37 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,240 Commission uh Vice Chair Neer to lead us 38 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:20,800 in a pledge of 39 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,550 >> allegiance 40 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,039 to the flag of the United States of 41 00:06:27,039 --> 00:06:30,000 America and to the republic for which it 42 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,360 stands, one nation under God, 43 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,000 indivisible, with liberty and justice 44 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:40,150 for all. 45 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,080 » And turn it over to county manager for 46 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,919 adjustment to the agenda. 47 00:06:43,919 --> 00:06:45,830 >> The only adjustment we have this evening 48 00:06:45,830 --> 00:06:45,840 » The only adjustment we have this evening 49 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:48,960 is just to make sure that we received 50 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,720 another application for the Farmland 51 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,039 Preservation Board and that was added on 52 00:06:53,039 --> 00:06:54,800 the table before you packet for 53 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,479 consideration. 54 00:06:56,479 --> 00:06:58,309 >> Do we have a motion to approve the 55 00:06:58,309 --> 00:06:58,319 » Do we have a motion to approve the 56 00:06:58,319 --> 00:06:58,880 agenda? 57 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,309 >> Make a motion to approve. 58 00:07:00,309 --> 00:07:00,319 » Make a motion to approve. 59 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:01,909 >> Motion by Commissioner Stout. All in 60 00:07:01,909 --> 00:07:01,919 » Motion by Commissioner Stout. All in 61 00:07:01,919 --> 00:07:02,960 favor say I. 62 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:03,430 >> I. 63 00:07:03,430 --> 00:07:03,440 » I. 64 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,990 >> Any opposed? The agenda is approved. We 65 00:07:05,990 --> 00:07:06,000 » Any opposed? The agenda is approved. We 66 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,080 do not have any special recognitions or 67 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,560 awards tonight, but we do have an 68 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:11,759 appointment before the board with the 69 00:07:11,759 --> 00:07:12,880 Art of County Health Department. I'll 70 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,479 turn it to county manager to fire that 71 00:07:14,479 --> 00:07:14,880 off. 72 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,110 >> Absolutely. Thank you. Um, this evening 73 00:07:17,110 --> 00:07:17,120 » Absolutely. Thank you. Um, this evening 74 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,560 we do have a request from the health 75 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,280 department to present the 2025 state of 76 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,599 the county health report and Miss Indic 77 00:07:23,599 --> 00:07:25,199 Savage is here to make this presentation 78 00:07:25,199 --> 00:07:45,029 to the board. 79 00:07:45,039 --> 00:07:46,720 check and make sure that we have to act 80 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:47,680 it out too. 81 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,270 >> I do have some booklets as well. 82 00:07:49,270 --> 00:07:49,280 » I do have some booklets as well. 83 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,350 >> Oh, there there you go. Here we go. 84 00:07:51,350 --> 00:07:51,360 » Oh, there there you go. Here we go. 85 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:52,400 Okay. 86 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,309 >> All right. So, good evening everyone. My 87 00:07:54,309 --> 00:07:54,319 » All right. So, good evening everyone. My 88 00:07:54,319 --> 00:07:56,720 name is Danica Savage. I am the health 89 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,400 promotion supervisor from the Iredell 90 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,160 County Health Department. So, this 91 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,680 evening I will be providing to you all 92 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,759 the 2025 state of the county health 93 00:08:03,759 --> 00:08:06,240 report, also known as the Satch Report, 94 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:07,840 which shows the actual progress of our 95 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,759 community health assessment. So our top 96 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:11,599 three priorities for our 2020 health 97 00:08:11,599 --> 00:08:13,360 assessment was chronic disease, 98 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,440 substance misuse, and mental health. And 99 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,360 with this initiative, we did collaborate 100 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:18,720 with several different organizations 101 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,720 throughout Ardell County to improve in 102 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:26,070 those areas. 103 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,120 All right. So for our first priority in 104 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:30,879 our initiative, mental health, this was 105 00:08:30,879 --> 00:08:32,320 done by our own health department with 106 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,959 our opioid team. So we did have our 107 00:08:34,959 --> 00:08:36,880 youth mental health first aid. So this 108 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,200 is done for our actual adults to help 109 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,800 them actually respond to an actual 110 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,760 crisis for our youth. So we did train 28 111 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,720 SRO's for our mindful Mondays. This was 112 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,120 done for our recreation center and we 113 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,160 had 384 children. So with this we 114 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,160 actually provided emotion emotional 115 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,800 regulation games like rock pain puzzles 116 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,440 and positive affirmations for them. For 117 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,040 our teens mental health first aid and 118 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,800 this is for our actual adolesccents 119 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,120 between the ages of 14 and 18. We teach 120 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,880 them how to actually respond to an 121 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,560 actual crisis. So in 2025 we did one 122 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:12,240 training. However, we had five students 123 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,399 and that number has incre increased this 124 00:09:14,399 --> 00:09:21,910 year. 125 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,920 We did collaborate with Bwell Aredell 126 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,519 which is a suicide prevention coalition 127 00:09:25,519 --> 00:09:27,920 in Ayardell County. So for them their 128 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,920 all their activities, events, trainings 129 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,160 held and material materials directed 130 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,959 were provided. It was a total of 3,000 131 00:09:34,959 --> 00:09:37,519 people that they actually reached for 132 00:09:37,519 --> 00:09:39,519 the 500 youth engaged. This is the 133 00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:42,480 actual number of the youth that train 134 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:43,839 attended their trainings in their 135 00:09:43,839 --> 00:09:46,720 programs and that was a total of 500 30 136 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,560 partner agencies and that included the 137 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:56,070 health department and 20 trainings held. 138 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,399 All right, for chronic disease our own 139 00:09:58,399 --> 00:10:00,720 very own mental health well mobile unit 140 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,279 I'm sorry. So we are around the county. 141 00:10:03,279 --> 00:10:05,680 We did a total of 139 blood pressure 142 00:10:05,680 --> 00:10:07,279 checks last year and that number 143 00:10:07,279 --> 00:10:10,800 definitely has tripled this year. Down 144 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,399 below we do have our healthy for life 145 00:10:12,399 --> 00:10:14,079 that we have not yet started. This is 146 00:10:14,079 --> 00:10:16,399 with the American Heart Association. So 147 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:18,240 this is actual training that's inerson 148 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,320 and virtually done. So it provides 149 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,160 education on physical well-being and 150 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:29,910 wellness. 151 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,519 All right. So we did collaborate with 152 00:10:31,519 --> 00:10:33,279 Ardell health system with their diabetes 153 00:10:33,279 --> 00:10:35,440 program. Their diabetes program is for 154 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,600 their type 2 diabetes and provides 155 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,760 improvement and education to those. So 156 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,760 it was a total of 65 people who actually 157 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,800 attended the program with 62 participant 158 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,560 participants actually maintaining their 159 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:49,680 type 2 diabetes levels. So for their 160 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:51,360 outreach and community engagement, this 161 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,920 includes educational trainings and 162 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,480 events. There were a total of 406 163 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:03,030 community members that actually attended 164 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,200 for substance misuse. We did collaborate 165 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,839 with Daki Ardo County Wellness Clinic in 166 00:11:07,839 --> 00:11:10,240 the Statesville Police Department. So 167 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,560 these are very our own prevention 168 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:15,519 methods. So with the Aridell Statesville 169 00:11:15,519 --> 00:11:18,560 Police Department, it was 100 a total of 170 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:21,279 154 pounds of unwanted med medications 171 00:11:21,279 --> 00:11:24,079 for their drug t takeback program. So 172 00:11:24,079 --> 00:11:26,800 for Daki, this included their 95 lock 173 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,079 boxes. For their fitnol strips, 341. 174 00:11:30,079 --> 00:11:32,399 Again, these are prevention methods. And 175 00:11:32,399 --> 00:11:34,240 then for our Arredell County Wellness 176 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,320 Clinic, there were 19 referrals for our 177 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,480 quit line program. And this included our 178 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:46,069 county employees, 179 00:11:46,079 --> 00:11:48,079 our challenges. 180 00:11:48,079 --> 00:11:50,800 So for 2025, we did have several 181 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,399 different challenges. Of course, our 182 00:11:52,399 --> 00:11:55,040 measles outbreak with 24 cases and our 183 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,279 last reported case was February 21st, 184 00:11:57,279 --> 00:12:00,320 2026. Our government shutdown which 185 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,800 affected the entire country, especially 186 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,160 the health department with our care 187 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,880 management program and access to mental 188 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,880 health care. So, here in Ardell County, 189 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,880 we do have our we do have behavioral 190 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,519 health Davis with 42 beds. However, we 191 00:12:13,519 --> 00:12:16,079 do need more inpatient for mental health 192 00:12:16,079 --> 00:12:18,399 as well as our substance abuse recovery 193 00:12:18,399 --> 00:12:26,310 long-term treatment centers. 194 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,279 For our health trends for 2023, the 195 00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:31,040 morbidity and mortality rates, there 196 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,000 were no significant changes from 2023 197 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,800 that remained pretty consistent. Opioid 198 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,800 overdoses still a high-risisk concern. 199 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,279 So, we still track those with NC detect. 200 00:12:41,279 --> 00:12:43,360 And again, with our provider capacity, 201 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:44,880 that was our mental health and our 202 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,560 substance misuse treatment centers, 203 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:52,230 which is a need in Iridale County. 204 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,920 All right. For our new initiatives at 205 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,519 the health department, do we do have our 206 00:12:55,519 --> 00:12:57,680 animated character, Globy. He is our 207 00:12:57,680 --> 00:12:59,360 mood keeper for our youth. So, he 208 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,000 provides our youth emotional regulation 209 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,760 and teaches them how to recognize their 210 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,200 actual emotions and their actual 211 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:11,670 feelings. 212 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:14,320 All right. And for 2027, the community 213 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:15,920 health assessment is coming up. We will 214 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,279 continue to collaborate with several 215 00:13:17,279 --> 00:13:19,200 different organizations and we will be 216 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:20,720 partnering with Duke Health on this 217 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:29,269 initiative. Thank you. 218 00:13:29,279 --> 00:13:30,480 » Can I ask you a question? 219 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:31,269 >> Sure. 220 00:13:31,269 --> 00:13:31,279 » Sure. 221 00:13:31,279 --> 00:13:32,629 >> I see it says questions now. 222 00:13:32,629 --> 00:13:32,639 » I see it says questions now. 223 00:13:32,639 --> 00:13:33,590 >> Yes. 224 00:13:33,590 --> 00:13:33,600 » Yes. 225 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,030 >> And if you're not able to answer, I'm 226 00:13:35,030 --> 00:13:35,040 » And if you're not able to answer, I'm 227 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,320 sure you can like phone a friend or 228 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,560 reach out or follow back up. If you will 229 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:41,920 um think back to what is capable by the 230 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,760 the mobile health unit 231 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,590 >> when it's out and about in the community 232 00:13:45,590 --> 00:13:45,600 » when it's out and about in the community 233 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,600 if someone comes in to have blood work 234 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,000 done is something say there go back to 235 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,839 the diabetes focus on that one on their 236 00:13:51,839 --> 00:13:52,480 numbers 237 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,150 >> if they wonder if their sugar's high 238 00:13:54,150 --> 00:13:54,160 » if they wonder if their sugar's high 239 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,079 whether they are diagnosed with diabetes 240 00:13:56,079 --> 00:13:58,079 or if they're just the citizen that's 241 00:13:58,079 --> 00:13:59,839 never had their blood check 242 00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:01,670 >> is that something they can coordinate 243 00:14:01,670 --> 00:14:01,680 » is that something they can coordinate 244 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:03,440 with the mobile health unit or do they 245 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:04,720 have to come in 246 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,150 >> that is something that they are able to 247 00:14:06,150 --> 00:14:06,160 » that is something that they are able to 248 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,000 coordinate with the mobile So we do have 249 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,519 a lab team out there. So 250 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:11,030 >> that's essentially what I was wondering. 251 00:14:11,030 --> 00:14:11,040 » that's essentially what I was wondering. 252 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,959 So that way folks sometimes are hesitant 253 00:14:12,959 --> 00:14:14,079 to go. 254 00:14:14,079 --> 00:14:14,949 >> They need to know, 255 00:14:14,949 --> 00:14:14,959 » They need to know, 256 00:14:14,959 --> 00:14:16,949 >> right? So we do have lab out there. So 257 00:14:16,949 --> 00:14:16,959 » right? So we do have lab out there. So 258 00:14:16,959 --> 00:14:18,399 yes, we they will get the help that they 259 00:14:18,399 --> 00:14:18,560 need. 260 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:19,670 >> How long would they have to wait to have 261 00:14:19,670 --> 00:14:19,680 » How long would they have to wait to have 262 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,760 results? 263 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,670 >> I'm not sure. It depends on the actual 264 00:14:23,670 --> 00:14:23,680 » I'm not sure. It depends on the actual 265 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,279 what they're actually there for. You get 266 00:14:25,279 --> 00:14:27,279 it done. Yes. Yes. 267 00:14:27,279 --> 00:14:28,870 >> We do not turn anyone away. 268 00:14:28,870 --> 00:14:28,880 » We do not turn anyone away. 269 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,829 >> Okay. Excellent. Thank you. 270 00:14:31,829 --> 00:14:31,839 » Okay. Excellent. Thank you. 271 00:14:31,839 --> 00:14:34,480 I think on your slide you kind of 272 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,560 alluded to this is 273 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,069 >> with the growth that we're seeing in 274 00:14:38,069 --> 00:14:38,079 » with the growth that we're seeing in 275 00:14:38,079 --> 00:14:39,120 this county. 276 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,829 >> Are you starting to see more folks with 277 00:14:41,829 --> 00:14:41,839 » Are you starting to see more folks with 278 00:14:41,839 --> 00:14:43,199 the health department because they are 279 00:14:43,199 --> 00:14:46,320 having trouble getting in with a their 280 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,000 own provider? 281 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,949 >> Well, I would say that's everywhere. I 282 00:14:50,949 --> 00:14:50,959 » Well, I would say that's everywhere. I 283 00:14:50,959 --> 00:14:53,120 would say provider capacity, like I said 284 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,880 it before, that's a need in several 285 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,000 different counties. the health 286 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,760 department does provide you know that 287 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,600 access to individuals even those without 288 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,519 health insurance on a sliding scale. So 289 00:15:01,519 --> 00:15:03,120 we do see a lot of different people with 290 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:03,920 that. 291 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,629 >> Are you are you hearing very much of 292 00:15:06,629 --> 00:15:06,639 » Are you are you hearing very much of 293 00:15:06,639 --> 00:15:08,639 folks kind of um 294 00:15:08,639 --> 00:15:10,069 >> more migrating to the health department 295 00:15:10,069 --> 00:15:10,079 » more migrating to the health department 296 00:15:10,079 --> 00:15:12,399 instead of their primary care providers 297 00:15:12,399 --> 00:15:13,750 >> because of capacity? 298 00:15:13,750 --> 00:15:13,760 » because of capacity? 299 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,590 >> Um I wouldn't say that I'm hearing I 300 00:15:15,590 --> 00:15:15,600 » Um I wouldn't say that I'm hearing I 301 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,320 would say that we we see more patients 302 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:19,680 um because of that. You know a lot of 303 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,279 people don't accept Medicaid so we do 304 00:15:21,279 --> 00:15:23,600 see a lot of patients with Medicaid. Um, 305 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,399 so I I feel like we do maintain a good a 306 00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:30,790 good bit of clients. 307 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:37,430 » Any other questions? 308 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,320 » Make a motion to 309 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,550 >> All right. Thank you guys. 310 00:15:42,550 --> 00:15:42,560 » All right. Thank you guys. 311 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:43,670 >> We got a motion on the floor. 312 00:15:43,670 --> 00:15:43,680 » We got a motion on the floor. 313 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,189 >> Motion by Commissioner Stout. All in 314 00:15:45,189 --> 00:15:45,199 » Motion by Commissioner Stout. All in 315 00:15:45,199 --> 00:15:46,720 favor say I. 316 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,269 >> Any oppos? 317 00:15:49,269 --> 00:15:49,279 » Any oppos? 318 00:15:49,279 --> 00:15:51,110 >> You guys have a good evening. 319 00:15:51,110 --> 00:15:51,120 » You guys have a good evening. 320 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,829 >> I'm feeling healthier already. 321 00:15:53,829 --> 00:15:53,839 » I'm feeling healthier already. 322 00:15:53,839 --> 00:15:56,560 positive energies. 323 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:57,990 >> We don't have any public hearings 324 00:15:57,990 --> 00:15:58,000 » We don't have any public hearings 325 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,600 tonight, but I'll turn it over to the 326 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,440 manager to do our administrative matter. 327 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,670 >> Thank you, Chair Conley. Um, do you want 328 00:16:03,670 --> 00:16:03,680 » Thank you, Chair Conley. Um, do you want 329 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,519 to go ahead and do the the two that we 330 00:16:05,519 --> 00:16:08,880 reserve for the six? So, uh, the first 331 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,560 item under administrative matters for 332 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,000 the six o'clock meeting is a request 333 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,560 from Ardell six schools for approval of 334 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,560 phase 2 athletic funding for Weather 335 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:17,920 Creek High School, including budget 336 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,920 amendment number six and amendment to 337 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,160 the capital project ordinance. And Mr. 338 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:23,839 Mark Shanker is here to make his 339 00:16:23,839 --> 00:16:25,920 presentation to the board. I will say 340 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,720 depending upon uh the board's decision, 341 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,720 Miss Taylor is um has various different 342 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,240 options for budget amendments. She's 343 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,920 she's been busy with budget amendments, 344 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,279 not knowing which 345 00:16:37,279 --> 00:16:39,360 ago. So, um she actually will come and 346 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:45,030 tag team at the 347 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,320 » Yes. Uh good evening, uh 348 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,560 Chairman Connelly, members of the board. 349 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,320 Um I'm here on behalf of Irale 350 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,639 Statesville Schools, um to present to 351 00:16:54,639 --> 00:16:56,959 you a request for funding, additional 352 00:16:56,959 --> 00:16:59,040 funding for Weathers Creek High School, 353 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,000 uh to complete phase two of our school. 354 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,759 Um as you know, we're under construction 355 00:17:03,759 --> 00:17:06,559 there and have been for quite some time. 356 00:17:06,559 --> 00:17:09,360 Um, we've received 357 00:17:09,360 --> 00:17:12,400 $130 million worth of funding from uh 358 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,280 the county to build this project. Um, 359 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,720 and you know, our intent is to try to 360 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,439 complete the project all together with 361 00:17:21,439 --> 00:17:23,439 phase one and and open the school 362 00:17:23,439 --> 00:17:25,520 together with both an athletics portion 363 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,400 of the field um to the to the the school 364 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,400 building side of the project. The 365 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,160 building part of the project is is 366 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,000 running as scheduled and um and we are 367 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,039 delivering a school to be opened in fall 368 00:17:39,039 --> 00:17:41,840 of 2027. So this is our last school year 369 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,000 without the uh school. We're in the 370 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,840 middle of a redistricting process right 371 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,000 now and we hope to have that approved in 372 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,919 our next month in our board meeting 373 00:17:49,919 --> 00:17:52,720 there. And so we've been looking at 374 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,160 different options. If you remember 375 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,360 originally um we were making a request 376 00:17:57,360 --> 00:17:59,840 forundred 377 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,600 70 million or so for the project. 32 378 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,679 million I believe was the original uh 379 00:18:05,679 --> 00:18:07,360 request there for phase two of the 380 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:09,440 project for athletics. 381 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,919 You know, we understand that that's uh 382 00:18:11,919 --> 00:18:14,240 not going to be possible 383 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,080 with a with the constraints that you 384 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,559 have with budget. So, we we looked back 385 00:18:18,559 --> 00:18:20,480 at it to see what we could eliminate. 386 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,240 Our goal all along was to try to provide 387 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,400 a full continuum of athletics, every 388 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,120 sport to all the students that attend 389 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:29,440 Weathers Creek High School. And when we 390 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,039 did that project, when we did that 391 00:18:31,039 --> 00:18:32,559 exercise, 392 00:18:32,559 --> 00:18:35,520 um, we were able to to eliminate some 393 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,720 things and and try to back into around a 394 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,640 $25 million construction project. 395 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,600 And then we've continued to sharpen the 396 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,000 pencil going back through to see what 397 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,320 was possible in the project to 398 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:51,760 eliminate. Understand that anytime you 399 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,120 do a project there are construction 400 00:18:53,120 --> 00:18:54,400 costs but there are other costs 401 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:55,760 associated with the project with 402 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,640 permitting design fees. You know you 403 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,080 know misconception will be well we 404 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,520 already designed it. Well when you're 405 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,160 making the design modifications we are 406 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,720 to the field uh position of the field 407 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,280 and where certain things are located you 408 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,280 have to redesign these things. We've 409 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,440 looked at consolidating buildings 410 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,760 together and doing all of all of these 411 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,080 exercises together to try to drop into a 412 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,960 budget. So um the construction company 413 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,520 Monteth Construction has been helpful in 414 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,640 doing this exercise. They've spent hours 415 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,679 with their staff trying to come up with 416 00:19:29,679 --> 00:19:32,160 different versions that that could back 417 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,919 into a budget that everyone was 418 00:19:33,919 --> 00:19:36,799 satisfied with. The architect has been 419 00:19:36,799 --> 00:19:38,320 very helpful and has put in a ton of 420 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,880 time for the project as well. Um, and so 421 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,720 the documents I shared with you is is 422 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,880 kind of I believe um an option for us to 423 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,160 do this project. And um and I'll kind of 424 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:51,440 talk through a little bit of what that 425 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,520 is. I have a a map up here that kind of 426 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,280 shows some of these ideas that we've 427 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,799 done. If you remember, the original plan 428 00:19:56,799 --> 00:19:59,120 had the field oriented a different way. 429 00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:01,440 We've we've looked at moving the field, 430 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,039 eliminating parking lots mostly uh for 431 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:08,640 grading purposes. The project has a 432 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,960 large uh it's sloped from the north end 433 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,240 to the south end of the property. So 434 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,679 having the fields positioned in the way 435 00:20:17,679 --> 00:20:20,640 they were before would require a very 436 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,640 expensive retaining wall. So we looked 437 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,919 to move things up to avoid the that work 438 00:20:25,919 --> 00:20:27,520 and avoid having to build a retaining 439 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,320 wall there. We eliminated some access 440 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,240 roads that went up to the back side of 441 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,320 the field. What's highlighted there in 442 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,559 green is a section of the road that we 443 00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:40,000 would suggest would be done some of that 444 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,840 were to be done in gravel versus 445 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,320 pavement. On the football field itself, 446 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,240 we eliminated several of the buildings 447 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,600 to have one building. So, consolidating 448 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,000 a concession stand, eliminating a 449 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,520 concession stand and then consolidating 450 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,120 the concession stand into the 451 00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:56,880 fieldhouse. It's much cheaper to build 452 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,400 one building than it is multiple 453 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,840 buildings. We reduce the capacity in the 454 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,080 in the uh stadium there with the number 455 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,000 of seats that we have in here to match 456 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,760 the same capacity that we have at South 457 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,559 Irale High School. on our baseball and 458 00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:13,280 softball fields. They had uh bleachers 459 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,760 on the home side, on the on the I'm 460 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,840 sorry, the first base side, the third 461 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,280 base side, and behind home plate. And we 462 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,440 looked to eliminate both the ones on the 463 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,280 baselines just to have bleachers behind 464 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,480 home plate. Parking lots were eliminated 465 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,559 utilizing before the idea of the project 466 00:21:30,559 --> 00:21:33,039 was we had a gate that would separate 467 00:21:33,039 --> 00:21:35,520 athletics from the building side. 468 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,480 Eliminating the gate and utilizing 469 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,880 parking that's on the building side 470 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,520 allows us to not install all these 471 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,080 parking lots and saves lots of money in 472 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,520 parking. I'm sure you manage your county 473 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:48,960 budget here. You know what parking lots 474 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,679 cost. We also look to eliminate both 475 00:21:51,679 --> 00:21:55,520 practice fields in this generation and 476 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,440 with the idea that we could install one 477 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,360 ourselves through our maintenance 478 00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:01,039 department or through our capital funds 479 00:22:01,039 --> 00:22:03,360 at a later date. 480 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:06,559 We would grade it so that a field was a 481 00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:08,720 field kind of footprint was there for 482 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,080 one of the athletic fields, but then the 483 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,880 other field there actually a slope there 484 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,159 where that other there wouldn't be a 485 00:22:16,159 --> 00:22:17,440 spot there for that other field. We'd 486 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,200 have to go in and grade some of that to 487 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,080 add the other practice field. 488 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,799 And so there are some other components 489 00:22:24,799 --> 00:22:25,919 pieces in there. It's all kind of 490 00:22:25,919 --> 00:22:27,760 outlined, I believe, in that letter that 491 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,400 Monteth has provided. 492 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,080 And all of these I will state is is 493 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,520 really just an an option. Um we can 494 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,840 really work with any budget the county 495 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,840 provides us. Um it is you know and this 496 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,159 is this exercise that we did was done 497 00:22:44,159 --> 00:22:46,720 rather rather quickly. Um these are all 498 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,080 estimates. If you notice the one 499 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,600 document I provided you they have lots 500 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,200 of zeros because those are estimates 501 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,200 that you know we don't we're not really 502 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,440 tied to any of this. you know, our 503 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,919 request is to to receive funding for 504 00:22:57,919 --> 00:23:01,520 this and then we could go back and 505 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,600 really decide how we're going to to 506 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,640 utilize that funding. Um, but this plan 507 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,880 right here, I think, is one um that we 508 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,799 would be very pleased with. I will also 509 00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:12,240 point out, too, it does not have tennis 510 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,000 courts in there. We eliminated all six 511 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,640 tennis courts in this piece here. You 512 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,159 know, that's unfortunate, but that's a 513 00:23:18,159 --> 00:23:21,039 it's a very expensive for the number of 514 00:23:21,039 --> 00:23:23,440 participants that we have in tennis. Um, 515 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,120 and it's, you know, you'll spend 516 00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:26,400 anywhere from half a million to a 517 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,840 million dollars instead in installing a 518 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:28,960 tennis court. I think one of the quotes 519 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,120 he had in here was $1.2 million for 520 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:33,280 tennis or, you know, for some high 521 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,120 schools that, you know, don't even have 522 00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:36,960 a tennis team, have trouble fielding 523 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,200 tennis teams. We can look to add that at 524 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,360 a later date. 525 00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:42,960 So, I know one popular question we 526 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,400 receive is if we were to do this, how 527 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,360 long it would take? We're kind of 528 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:49,039 working with a one-year um timeline. I 529 00:23:49,039 --> 00:23:50,720 think 12 months of construction timeline 530 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,919 for it. So by the time we finish if um 531 00:23:53,919 --> 00:23:56,080 funding was made available and we were 532 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,039 looking to um you know go through the 533 00:23:59,039 --> 00:24:01,440 design and finalize the design finalize 534 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,720 you know how we were going to utilize 535 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,280 those funds it would be 12 months from 536 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,679 there. So you know I kind of say a day 537 00:24:07,679 --> 00:24:10,480 for a day. The longer this is delayed 538 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,080 the longer it would take you know to 539 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,000 have it installed. 540 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,480 I believe you're going to have the best 541 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,000 price is the price that uh is today's 542 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,480 price and as we move further along this 543 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,640 if we were to defer this project I think 544 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,640 it becomes more expensive. How much more 545 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,360 expensive? I I'm not really sure. A lot 546 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:30,880 of the pricing that all the pricing that 547 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,600 we provide in here is based on the you 548 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,200 know construction consumer index um and 549 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,960 you know what we're seeing from we 550 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,799 haven't rebid the project but I think 551 00:24:40,799 --> 00:24:42,559 once we rebid the project we'll be able 552 00:24:42,559 --> 00:24:44,720 to kind of go through and and see you 553 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,120 know what our best prices in there and 554 00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:52,159 what we can do um on any of it. So, this 555 00:24:52,159 --> 00:24:54,080 scope right here, without the tennis 556 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,400 courts, without the practice fields, and 557 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,240 all of these modifications that we've 558 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,120 spoke about, brings a construction cost 559 00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:03,440 of $22 million. 560 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,559 Um, we are estimating $2 million in soft 561 00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:08,080 costs 562 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,600 um for a total project cost of $24 563 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,279 million. 564 00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:15,679 We have saved money from phase one on 565 00:25:15,679 --> 00:25:18,080 the project. We're running probably 566 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,520 about $1.5 million and what we call our 567 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,320 our kitty. We've eliminated things from 568 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,640 that project to try to save money there 569 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,760 to put towards phase two. We I think 570 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,279 we've done a really nice job not to 571 00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:33,840 cheapen the building, but to find, you 572 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,679 know, savings where things might have 573 00:25:35,679 --> 00:25:37,440 been unnecessary. 574 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,159 Um so, for example, you know, I I shared 575 00:25:40,159 --> 00:25:41,679 this with the board last week. We found 576 00:25:41,679 --> 00:25:44,640 $30,000 last week because the mezzanines 577 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,279 where the HVAC system is housed above in 578 00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:50,080 these areas above the classroom space. 579 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,240 It's just mechanical equipment up there. 580 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,000 Those in the in the plans, they were set 581 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,240 to be to have painting up done up there. 582 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,159 A coat of primer and a coat of paint. 583 00:25:58,159 --> 00:26:00,000 Eliminated that. You know, they could be 584 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,480 just regular masonry walls up there. We 585 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,960 saved a hund00 million by eliminating a 586 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,360 a hall of fame kind of corridor that 587 00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:09,360 went towards the gym. Now we have a wall 588 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:11,520 of fame with just some casing and 589 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,520 trophies and things in there. So we've 590 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,760 looked to eliminate a lot of these 591 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,360 things through the project, saving about 592 00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:20,240 1.5. We're comfortable with about 1.25 593 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,679 of that. Still want to leave something 594 00:26:21,679 --> 00:26:23,760 in there. There is unforeseen things 595 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,720 that pop up from time to time. We also 596 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,200 have some allowance savings as well too. 597 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,480 You know, anytime you do a construction 598 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:31,919 project, you have little pots of money 599 00:26:31,919 --> 00:26:35,120 for allowances. you have one for um you 600 00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:36,960 know an allowance for electrical, an 601 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,559 allowance for all of these different 602 00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:40,960 trades. And as the project gets further 603 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,880 along, you know, we're more and more 604 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,400 comfortable with utilizing the money 605 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,320 that's there in the allowances. This is 606 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,679 $250,000 towards allowances. There's 607 00:26:49,679 --> 00:26:51,360 more than that in the allowances, but 608 00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:52,400 this is the part I think we're we're 609 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,360 going to be comfortable dedicating 610 00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:55,440 towards the project. A half a million 611 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,080 dollars of the project is going to be 612 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,799 reimbursed by NC DOT. This is not 613 00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:02,559 something that you receive immediately, 614 00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:04,240 but at some point we'll have a 615 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,480 reimbursement of $500,000. A lot of time 616 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,840 when we get those reimbursements, 617 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,400 they're, you know, returned back to the 618 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,960 school, but you know, that'll be your 619 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,760 choice there. But 500,000, you know, you 620 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,640 know, we kind of put in there as well. 621 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,320 We also receive somewhere around $2 622 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,559 million a year in lottery funds. So, 623 00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:25,120 we're prepared um to put money into this 624 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:28,159 project toward from lottery. So, for 625 00:27:28,159 --> 00:27:30,159 example, we can look at one of the maybe 626 00:27:30,159 --> 00:27:31,840 baseball and softball fields and see if 627 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,240 we could utilize lottery funds to to pay 628 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,480 for those portions of the project. So, 629 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,799 that brings a total contribution to the 630 00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:42,960 project from the district at $4 million. 631 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,960 Um, so if you take you do the math, 24 632 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,039 million total project cost, $4 million 633 00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:49,039 from the district gives us an estimated 634 00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:53,120 counting funding request of $20 million. 635 00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:55,760 And so, you know, and I'm going to share 636 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,240 uh a little bit later about Parkertown 637 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,600 Elementary, which we are operating, you 638 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,760 know, within our budget there and things 639 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,039 are favorable on that project. You know, 640 00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:08,880 that's another space there that I think 641 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,960 we could look at at some point, too, is 642 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,120 seeing, you know, is there savings that 643 00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:14,720 we have from that portion of the project 644 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,679 to put back into this project. So there 645 00:28:17,679 --> 00:28:19,520 are other opportunities I think along 646 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,360 the way and as as time goes on I think 647 00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:24,640 it'll become more clear on exactly what 648 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,240 this may look like. 649 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,679 It's probably a lot of information. I'll 650 00:28:29,679 --> 00:28:31,600 I'll take any questions you have. 651 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,350 >> Anybody got any questions for Mark? 652 00:28:33,350 --> 00:28:33,360 » Anybody got any questions for Mark? 653 00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:36,389 >> Simple one on the football field. Are 654 00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:36,399 » Simple one on the football field. Are 655 00:28:36,399 --> 00:28:38,000 you is it considered to be turf in this 656 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,120 estimate as well? 657 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,750 >> Yes. The field itself would be a very 658 00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:41,760 » Yes. The field itself would be a very 659 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,840 similar product to to what we've done on 660 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,600 our other fields. South Irale High 661 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,279 School. They'll have their first home 662 00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:49,440 football game on their on their turf 663 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,720 field on Friday night if you want to 664 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,960 come out for that. But that'll it'll be 665 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,640 a similar product to what we have at our 666 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,279 other ones. The track in this particular 667 00:28:57,279 --> 00:28:59,360 estimate is looking at a different 668 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,440 version of track surface. And we're 669 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,720 still in conversations with geoaces that 670 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,240 provides our our track and fields there 671 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,720 to see is there another really good 672 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,799 track surface that may not be the the 673 00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:12,240 Mondo system that we have on these 674 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,039 fields is top of the line across the the 675 00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:16,880 country. I think they said that 676 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,320 something crazy I'll say the number 677 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,440 wrong but 80% of all world records are 678 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,880 set on the this particular track 679 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,080 surface. We can find a really good 680 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,000 surface. I just care about it lasting 681 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,679 long. Is it safe for kids and will it 682 00:29:27,679 --> 00:29:29,600 last long? That's the kind of the the 683 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:30,960 way that I look at it. So, could we find 684 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,960 another product that could potentially 685 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,720 save us, you know, half a million 686 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,559 dollars? And I think that that's this is 687 00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:37,840 that that is the product that would be 688 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,880 listed in this this so it's a very 689 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,480 similar but maybe not identical as far 690 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,470 as a track service. 691 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,159 » Any other questions? 692 00:29:48,159 --> 00:29:50,720 I just want to say thank you to uh Mark 693 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,279 and and all of their staff and Monteth 694 00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:56,240 Beth and I and Bert along with them had 695 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,840 had several meetings on behalf of our 696 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,880 board and staff um to try and 697 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,960 prioritize. We asked them, we t them 698 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,240 with coming back with the highest 699 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,240 priorities 700 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,600 for the athletic stuff in this phase 701 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,880 because of our um funding limitations we 702 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,080 have uh throughout the county, schools, 703 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,760 fires, all these things. And as Mark 704 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,120 mentioned, they they prioritize things 705 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,559 with where we think we can be today. Not 706 00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:28,240 saying none of the other things are not 707 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,559 valued and important, but I think we had 708 00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:33,200 to move these things forward if possible 709 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,440 uh without jeopardizing, you know, Mark 710 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,200 mentioned quality. When they did the 711 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,960 scope modifications and things, they 712 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,360 didn't jeopardize quality of product. 713 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,520 And I wanted to say thank you to all the 714 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,039 people that took part in that. And um it 715 00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:50,559 was important to to do that. And I 716 00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:51,919 think, you know, we've said it for many, 717 00:30:51,919 --> 00:30:53,679 many years 718 00:30:53,679 --> 00:30:57,360 um at other facilities and Mr. Norman 719 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,360 used to say all the time is, you know, 720 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,360 we can try to invest in athletics in the 721 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,919 county. Our jail is already at capacity. 722 00:31:03,919 --> 00:31:05,360 We've got to try to give our kids an 723 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,919 outlet. And hopefully investing in 724 00:31:07,919 --> 00:31:10,559 athletics gives them that ability. And 725 00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:12,960 also hopefully the communities will use 726 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,559 these facilities. That's always been our 727 00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:17,120 long-term plan. you know, when the 728 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,880 schools are not using these facilities, 729 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,880 the public can use them and bringing 730 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,440 economic impacts to our county. So, I 731 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,200 look at all this as a as a continued 732 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,880 investment. 733 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,640 So, I appreciate the work that's gone 734 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,000 into that from everyone. 735 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,350 >> I'd like to say just a couple things. 736 00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:33,360 » I'd like to say just a couple things. 737 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,430 >> This thing when it was done, and I know 738 00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:35,440 » This thing when it was done, and I know 739 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,519 I've hound this horn almost four years, 740 00:31:39,519 --> 00:31:42,080 this this project was put out to the 741 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,710 voters for $80 million. 742 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,919 And fault lies on both sides on why it 743 00:31:49,919 --> 00:31:51,679 was not jumped on and done. Morsel 744 00:31:51,679 --> 00:31:53,919 jumped on theirs and got on theirs 745 00:31:53,919 --> 00:31:56,000 pretty quick. 746 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,080 And if we approve anything tonight, we 747 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,480 cannot forget Morrisville graded has 748 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,080 needs as well. Big needs that they've 749 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,039 got as well. So we can't forget them 750 00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:08,559 when it comes down if we make a decision 751 00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:10,880 to do anything with this tonight. So, I 752 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,799 just want please let the board know 753 00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:14,320 we've got to look at requests that 754 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,760 Morsel's got coming up in the next 755 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,000 fiscal year. They sent us some this year 756 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,880 and we told them no and they understood. 757 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,960 So, I think if we decide anything 758 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,799 tonight, we need to make sure that we we 759 00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:27,200 give our due diligence to Mor School 760 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,080 District next fiscal year. Mark, I 761 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,679 appreciate everything you have done on 762 00:32:31,679 --> 00:32:33,840 this project because it started out very 763 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,399 high and it went. everything you've 764 00:32:36,399 --> 00:32:38,080 done, anytime I've dealt with you, 765 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,440 you've been very honest, very you do a 766 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,399 hell of a job. I'll just go ahead and 767 00:32:42,399 --> 00:32:44,320 tell you right now. And Jeff, I'm saying 768 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,559 that here and you're happy your board's 769 00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:49,360 here. Mark does a very good job and and 770 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,440 I appreciate I appreciate me being able 771 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,840 to call him, reach out to him and it's, 772 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,679 you know, we get the get the answers. I 773 00:32:55,679 --> 00:32:56,720 go back to the rest of the board. The 774 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,200 board can call Mark and we value what 775 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,399 Mark says. 776 00:33:00,399 --> 00:33:03,760 Please give him a good, you know, a good 777 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,360 thing or something, you know, something 778 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,640 on his door or something. But we go from 779 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,960 80 million, if we approve this tonight, 780 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:17,110 we will be at 150,924,615. 781 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,600 We're still 50 million shy of the $200 782 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:24,320 million request we got. So we're 159 783 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,159 150,924 784 00:33:26,159 --> 00:33:27,679 615. 785 00:33:27,679 --> 00:33:31,039 But with that comes the delay. This is 786 00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:33,440 well before I got on the board. The 787 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,679 delay of bringing it to us thousands so 788 00:33:35,679 --> 00:33:37,919 many days with time the voters passed it 789 00:33:37,919 --> 00:33:39,440 to us to do something. The interest 790 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,000 rates went up tremendously our finance 791 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,519 directors here. So then we had to pay 792 00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:48,640 you know bukoo of money extra on 793 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,669 financing. 794 00:33:51,679 --> 00:33:55,669 So, just 795 00:33:55,679 --> 00:33:58,159 I see it every day. I see what it is if 796 00:33:58,159 --> 00:34:00,320 kids don't have an out. And I hope if 797 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,320 this passes tonight, I hope that we work 798 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,640 with our kids and we keep our kids busy 799 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,559 and keep them out of trouble. But we 800 00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:07,840 know that's not going to happen in all 801 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,839 cases. But high school without sports is 802 00:34:11,839 --> 00:34:14,240 just if it was an early college and I 803 00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:15,679 still hope y'all sit down with Mos 804 00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:17,040 Graded and I hope y'all sit down with 805 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,200 Mitchell and talk to them about early 806 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,200 college opportunities there because I 807 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,000 don't think you're going to get this 808 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,960 thing filled up anytime soon. I I really 809 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,280 don't u you know people hit at us about 810 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,679 the reval that come apart that that 811 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:33,280 we've done and you know we still get 812 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,639 hounded about that. kind of got hounded 813 00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:36,159 the weekend over that, but they don't 814 00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:38,240 understand the things that we're having 815 00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:40,159 to do and we're trying to pay cash for 816 00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:43,359 with elementary school. And I mean, the 817 00:34:43,359 --> 00:34:44,720 other projects we got going on with the 818 00:34:44,720 --> 00:34:46,800 courthouse expansion, the other projects 819 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,879 and stuff that we've tried to do, you 820 00:34:48,879 --> 00:34:50,800 know, we got beat up for Jennings Park. 821 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,320 Now we get beat up for Jennings Park 822 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,520 because we didn't do enough for the 823 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:54,960 parking. So, we're having to adjust the 824 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,879 parking there. So, it's kind of dained 825 00:34:56,879 --> 00:34:58,079 if you do and dained if you don't in 826 00:34:58,079 --> 00:35:01,520 certain situations. But 827 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,040 I just going forward $20 million of 828 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,320 sports of a high school that could have 829 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,040 built back in the day what two and a 830 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,839 half elementaryaries way back not so far 831 00:35:11,839 --> 00:35:13,760 back. I mean that could have easily 832 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,160 built. So but now elementaryaries are 50 833 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,640 $60 million. So if we do save money at 834 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,680 Parkertown, can we adjust that money 835 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,359 that we could pay back some of this 20 836 00:35:23,359 --> 00:35:25,200 if we do invest the 20? 837 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:25,829 >> Yes. 838 00:35:25,829 --> 00:35:25,839 » Yes. 839 00:35:25,839 --> 00:35:26,870 >> Yeah. I'll share that in just a little 840 00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:26,880 » Yeah. I'll share that in just a little 841 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,560 bit. We're seeing things are positive 842 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,000 there and I I'll probably 843 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,510 >> And please knock on wood. Please knock 844 00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:31,520 » And please knock on wood. Please knock 845 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:32,640 on wood before you leave. 846 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,710 >> Um but yeah, I'm sure I can work with 847 00:35:34,710 --> 00:35:34,720 » Um but yeah, I'm sure I can work with 848 00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:36,560 Carolina. We can figure out how to make 849 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,119 that happen. 850 00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:38,390 >> Well, I will interject just a little 851 00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:38,400 » Well, I will interject just a little 852 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,880 bit. Parker Town, we're paying cash for. 853 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,589 >> So that is something that if there's 854 00:35:43,589 --> 00:35:43,599 » So that is something that if there's 855 00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:45,920 savings, that's just less cash we'll 856 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,359 have to front. So that's a benefit 857 00:35:49,359 --> 00:35:50,960 because we're paying cash for that that 858 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,119 entire school. 859 00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:56,790 >> Anybody got anything else? 860 00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:56,800 » Anybody got anything else? 861 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:02,069 You know, I uh 862 00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:07,040 I remember the uh the vote in 2020, 863 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,079 $80 million to build a school. 864 00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:13,680 Most of the people sitting in this room 865 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:20,150 voting were not a part of any of 866 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,240 not in the same capacities not in 867 00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:28,470 I was a voter. 868 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,280 That bond was presented 869 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,119 regardless what anyone says that $80 870 00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:38,470 million going to build that school. 871 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,280 I'm not going to sit here and and let's 872 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,599 beat a dead horse. But the trigger 873 00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:46,800 didn't get pulled. Action didn't take 874 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,680 place. Yes, there was things going on. 875 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,320 There was a change of of leadership 876 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,800 going on with Idol Statesville schools. 877 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,359 There was changes within the county. 878 00:36:57,359 --> 00:37:00,480 There was uh COVID all the things. I 879 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,630 mean, you call it a perfect storm. 880 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:10,000 We've had folks who were a part of it 881 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,320 make statements such as didn't realize 882 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,440 it uh was going to ask for $80 million 883 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,079 when their names on the form that 884 00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:21,440 requested it when it brought forward to 885 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,680 this board 886 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,440 in 2020 to be placed upon the 887 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,599 U. Um but then there their signatures on 888 00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:32,160 it requesting the board at that time put 889 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,480 it out for the vote but denying 890 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:42,870 there's a lot of 891 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,119 misinformation, 892 00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:51,349 a lot of convoluted information. 893 00:37:51,359 --> 00:37:53,440 I've been labeled by some folks of 894 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,440 saying I'm anti-education and I'm anti- 895 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,240 athletics. 896 00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:00,800 That is not true. 897 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,920 I played sports at Stacil Senior High. 898 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,880 Coached Jesse Jackson. 899 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,520 This was my position coach 900 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,990 played basketball. 901 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,119 My children came through this 902 00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:19,599 space schools. I have grandchildren who 903 00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:24,710 will come through Idle Space Schools. 904 00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:28,240 But sitting here as a board member 905 00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:30,400 and all the duties and responsibilities 906 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,320 that this board has, 28 907 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,040 county departments, 908 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,839 18 fire departments, 909 00:38:39,839 --> 00:38:44,069 two rescue squads, 910 00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:48,079 and countless other issues. 911 00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:51,280 We're paying 52 million cash. When was 912 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,680 the last time you know that that was 913 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,599 done? 914 00:38:55,599 --> 00:38:58,160 This board, this sitting board as it 915 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,800 appears in front of you, voted to give 916 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,920 an additional $50 million to this 917 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:14,710 project because of those issues. 918 00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:16,480 There's going to be folks that voted for 919 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,400 me that will agree with what I say and 920 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:23,040 folks that won't. But I was voted 921 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,440 in and part of my thing was 922 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,430 accountability 923 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,760 and my belief 924 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,040 it should have went back to the people 925 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:40,000 and the people had the right to decide 926 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,400 to spend. We're if we go this we're 927 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,079 we're we're 928 00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:48,160 going to be at what 70 almost 71 million 929 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,320 in addition to the 80 million that the 930 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:57,589 voters approved. 931 00:39:57,599 --> 00:39:58,960 You know, George Washington didn't cut 932 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,240 down the cherry tree, I don't think. I 933 00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:02,720 think he cut down the money tree. 934 00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:07,349 Um, 935 00:40:07,359 --> 00:40:09,599 I understand and I get the value, but I 936 00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:13,829 also get and understand 937 00:40:13,839 --> 00:40:16,000 living to your obligation to your word. 938 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,400 And I do not think that the people of 939 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,720 Arle County, 940 00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:23,359 the voters of our county, and I'm not 941 00:40:23,359 --> 00:40:25,359 blaming again. I want to go back and 942 00:40:25,359 --> 00:40:28,480 state the majority of the people 943 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,400 inherited 944 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,230 this issue. 945 00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:37,200 The taxpayers inherited it. 946 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,320 The school board and this board 947 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,960 inherited the the the responsibility of 948 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:48,710 trying to 949 00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:54,230 make sense of it. 950 00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:56,160 I was a taxpayer before I came here and 951 00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,319 I'll be a taxpayer in December. 952 00:41:00,319 --> 00:41:02,480 I'm supportive of the schools. Dr. 953 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,880 James, Mark, I am 100% behind the 954 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,560 schools, 955 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,200 but I'm of the beliefs this has to go 956 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,839 back to the people. And 957 00:41:13,839 --> 00:41:20,470 so I I personally can't support 958 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,960 with Brad, you know, the last time we 959 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,390 voted 960 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,319 a little bit and I said, "Boy, 961 00:41:30,319 --> 00:41:32,400 That's a hard one to swallow. It was a 962 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,680 hard one to swallow. But after we did 963 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,119 the bond, we argued 964 00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:40,240 figure it out. And we got together, we 965 00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:41,440 figured out, hey, we can make this 966 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,480 payment. We can do this. And we did it. 967 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,800 I didn't sleep at night. That's probably 968 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,960 the worst worst decision I've made since 969 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,280 I've been on the board that I had to do 970 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,560 that. We did it. But it bothered me now. 971 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,079 And when I did that, I said, "Okay, 972 00:41:56,079 --> 00:41:58,319 guys, I'm gonna do it." I told this I'm 973 00:41:58,319 --> 00:42:01,280 going to do it. I'm done. 974 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,880 So, I made my decision 975 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:11,589 and I'm not against 976 00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:13,760 so you know I see what it does for this 977 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,640 county but I'm like Brad 978 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,400 we're almost double what bond was and I 979 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,560 owe it to the people of this county to 980 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:27,520 ask their that's my I'm spending $70 981 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,400 million of taxpayers money and and I 982 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,839 don't have that right, not me. So the 983 00:42:33,839 --> 00:42:35,280 people of this county, it's their money. 984 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,680 So So I'm standing. 985 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:40,710 >> Any other discussion? 986 00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:40,720 » Any other discussion? 987 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:42,550 >> I got some comments. 988 00:42:42,550 --> 00:42:42,560 » I got some comments. 989 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,630 >> I am on I was on the board when this 990 00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:44,640 » I am on I was on the board when this 991 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,079 passed and I was on the board when we 992 00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:48,400 did a bond in 2020. 993 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,079 and what we took to the people in 2020. 994 00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:53,839 At that time, you could build this 995 00:42:53,839 --> 00:42:56,880 school for the proposed amount that was 996 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,400 on the bond. The perfect storm, as Brad 997 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,760 said, happened. I don't disagree with 998 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,119 any of your heartburn for it. However, 999 00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:07,040 as they've had changes of things at the 1000 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,400 school, we had changes after COVID. The 1001 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,040 state made revenues available for 1002 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,040 capital in the state of North Carolina, 1003 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,000 tier three counties. were one of 20. If 1004 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,560 you started a project and broke ground, 1005 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,720 you were not eligible to receive any of 1006 00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:26,240 that capital money. 95% of the tax 1007 00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:28,240 dollars in this state come from tier 1008 00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:30,319 three counties and it's redistributed to 1009 00:43:30,319 --> 00:43:33,119 the other 80 tier one and two counties. 1010 00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:35,680 So, I just wanted to clarify we had that 1011 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,440 was one of the reasons we had to wait 1012 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,440 because we did our due diligence for the 1013 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,599 taxpayers of the county. If we could 1014 00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:43,359 have got state capital money that was 1015 00:43:43,359 --> 00:43:45,440 made available, we wouldn't have had to 1016 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,000 pull out that 50 million Scotty's 1017 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,960 talking about, but we had 50 million 1018 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,560 approved at the time from Katherryn 1019 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,880 Truit and Governor and at the time 1020 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,200 Governor Cooper denied that because 1021 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,640 we're a Republican county. We were going 1022 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,720 to get 10 million a year for five years. 1023 00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:04,800 That didn't happen either because of 1024 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,400 politics. 1025 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,880 So, we did the best we could trying to 1026 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,560 look out and do our due diligence for 1027 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,720 the taxpayers. Yes, there were 1028 00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:16,160 challenges for the timing of everything. 1029 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,920 All of your heartburn is right as far as 1030 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,640 interest rates, all those things. 1031 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,400 I don't disagree with that. We learned 1032 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,240 from that. Next time, you just got to 1033 00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:26,000 pull the trigger and move on. But I feel 1034 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,920 like for the taxpayers, for the record, 1035 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,400 they needed to know some of the delay 1036 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,880 was trying to get their taxpayer dollars 1037 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,960 coming back to Ireland County that was 1038 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,119 made available by the legislature and 1039 00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:40,000 tier three counties got none. Okay. So, 1040 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,160 that was part of our due diligence. And 1041 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,640 if you started the project, why you 1042 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,400 couldn't continue to apply for the 1043 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,440 project is beyond me. It's another dumb 1044 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,119 legislative 1045 00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:53,760 uh part of the legislation. 1046 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,520 And so 1047 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,200 everything you've said I I don't 1048 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,359 disagree with. I have heartburn as well. 1049 00:45:01,359 --> 00:45:04,790 However, 1050 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,280 we voted to spend 65 or more million 1051 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,400 dollars on a courthouse edition that we 1052 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,400 need because we've got to get the jail 1053 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,960 population down. If we don't provide 1054 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,040 athletics or alternatives for our kids 1055 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,240 in this county, we're going to add on to 1056 00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:21,920 the jail. And the jail's going to cost 1057 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,520 you more per square foot than this 1058 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,440 school. So when we go to the people, 1059 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,319 with all due respect, and ask for what 1060 00:45:30,319 --> 00:45:33,839 we need, if the voters turn it down, it 1061 00:45:33,839 --> 00:45:35,680 don't take away my mandated 1062 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,200 responsibility or our mandated 1063 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,680 responsibility to build the school. We 1064 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,119 can go ask for their permission and 1065 00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:44,160 approval, but if they deny it, we still 1066 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,920 got to build it. It just presents 1067 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,240 problems on how we get the money. And 1068 00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:51,359 we've done a great job of paying cash as 1069 00:45:51,359 --> 00:45:52,720 we go. We've put a lot of county 1070 00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:54,800 projects on hold to pri for 1071 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,319 prioritization of mandated things. 1072 00:45:58,319 --> 00:46:00,720 Sometimes we have the the public elects 1073 00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:03,920 us to make informed decisions on their 1074 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,319 behalf because we know all the details 1075 00:46:06,319 --> 00:46:08,000 and facts they may not know like the 1076 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,760 courthouse, the challenges, the fire 1077 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,400 departments. We're stretching a dollar 1078 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,520 getting great service from our people to 1079 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,160 do fire and rescue service in the county 1080 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,560 when we know the challenges they face 1081 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,400 for personnel. We fight it every day 1082 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,440 with staffing for paramedics and 1083 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,480 everyone. The jail, the hell they put 1084 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,520 put up with in the jail every day. Guys, 1085 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,599 if people come in here to tomorrow, if 1086 00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:35,119 an inspector comes in here tomorrow and 1087 00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:37,280 says, "Add on to the jail." You got to 1088 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,839 add on to the jail. A judge can call the 1089 00:46:39,839 --> 00:46:41,520 manager over there and demand we add on 1090 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:42,960 to the courthouse whether we want to do 1091 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,839 it or not. The state mandates us to 1092 00:46:45,839 --> 00:46:49,119 build schools, adequate facilities. 1093 00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:53,920 We have gone back and adjusted the scope 1094 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,960 without jeopardizing the quality to do 1095 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,599 what I think is the right thing to do is 1096 00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:01,599 to give this high school athletic 1097 00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:03,599 facilities 1098 00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:05,359 to provide that experience for our 1099 00:47:05,359 --> 00:47:07,440 community, our kids. I think it's the 1100 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,800 right thing to do. Does it hurt? Yes, it 1101 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,079 hurts. But to that other point, we make 1102 00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:17,040 decisions every meeting on behalf of our 1103 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,800 citizens 1104 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,760 because we either have to unfunded 1105 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,240 mandates that are not relieved by the 1106 00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:26,319 state or federal government. So, I just 1107 00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:28,720 want to remind everybody of that. We 1108 00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:31,839 take in account our citizens every day. 1109 00:47:31,839 --> 00:47:33,680 We lowered the tax rate after the last 1110 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,319 reval. people still paid more in taxes 1111 00:47:36,319 --> 00:47:38,880 because their values went up. Well, now 1112 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,760 that may be manipulated with a ballot 1113 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,720 initiative in November when Brad 1114 00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:48,079 mentioned all of these various mandated 1115 00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:49,520 responsibilities or otherwise 1116 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,440 responsibilities of county departments 1117 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,000 that we have to meet and that's our main 1118 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,240 revenue stream. 1119 00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:58,800 So, I just want to remind everybody, I 1120 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,280 don't disagree with your heartburn, but 1121 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,200 there also are decisions we're elected 1122 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,480 to make uh informed decisions on behalf 1123 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,800 of our citizens because we're mandated 1124 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,920 to do it and we're obligated to do it. 1125 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,560 We don't have to by statute provide fire 1126 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,880 service in this county, but we do 1127 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,400 because it's the right thing to do for 1128 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,800 our citizens. 1129 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,240 We don't have to have libraries. We 1130 00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:24,559 don't have to have recreation, but we we 1131 00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:26,079 have these departments to give our 1132 00:48:26,079 --> 00:48:27,680 citizens 1133 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,480 those resources. That's why we have the 1134 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,559 best damn county in the state and the 1135 00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:34,880 best state in the country in my opinion 1136 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,880 because we try to make the best informed 1137 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,000 decisions we can. Are they perfect? No. 1138 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,000 But I think they're necessary. That's 1139 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,200 just me. Not criticizing what anybody 1140 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,280 said. Just want to remind everybody we 1141 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,800 make decisions every meeting to spend 1142 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,760 taxpayer dollars the most efficient way 1143 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,640 we have to. So my request would be if 1144 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,079 there's no other comments I'll make a 1145 00:48:58,079 --> 00:48:59,839 motion for this if no one else has a 1146 00:48:59,839 --> 00:49:00,079 comment. 1147 00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:02,790 >> I'll just make a few just okay so I can 1148 00:49:02,790 --> 00:49:02,800 » I'll just make a few just okay so I can 1149 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,069 >> just put a little bit of thought out 1150 00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:04,079 » just put a little bit of thought out 1151 00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:07,359 there as well. Um, 1152 00:49:07,359 --> 00:49:10,079 number one, I want to say how heartfelt 1153 00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:13,280 appreciative I am for our board 1154 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,000 to be able to sit here and have 1155 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,960 difficult conversations. 1156 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,119 To be able to 1157 00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:23,520 speak from our heart and from our mind 1158 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,079 and we still walk out of here got each 1159 00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:31,109 other's back no matter what. 1160 00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:36,470 That speaks volumes of a board. 1161 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,480 I'm more concerned if you don't have a 1162 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,800 difference of opinion. I need a 1163 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,200 difference of opinion. That way, our 1164 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:47,200 citizens each have a voice. 1165 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,000 Whether they agree with yes or they 1166 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,400 agree with no. 1167 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,200 We all sit here and represent our 1168 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,280 population. 1169 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,680 We also represent our population 1170 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,839 respectfully. 1171 00:50:01,839 --> 00:50:04,079 No matter what our decision is tonight, 1172 00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:05,599 we will work together for the next 1173 00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:07,920 decision because guess what? Ardell 1174 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,240 County is still growing. Ardell County 1175 00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:12,880 still has needs. We can't just say, "Oh, 1176 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,160 it's too hard. We're not going to do 1177 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,240 it." We were elected to make those 1178 00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:17,839 decisions. 1179 00:50:17,839 --> 00:50:19,760 If you turn your back on the decisions 1180 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,160 and you turn your back on the people, we 1181 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:27,030 were elected to make the decisions. 1182 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,480 I will tell you as I visit schools, 1183 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,319 there is not a dollar amount you could 1184 00:50:32,319 --> 00:50:34,160 put. The people in those schools are 1185 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,800 priceless. The students are priceless. 1186 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,160 Our teachers are priceless. 1187 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,559 But yet, you've got to put a price on 1188 00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:45,119 projects. 1189 00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:48,160 And how do you do that? You continue to 1190 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,960 have conversations. What you see here is 1191 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,440 a condensed version because our 1192 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,359 population doesn't want to spend the 1193 00:50:55,359 --> 00:50:57,440 hours having to dig into the facts and 1194 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:58,880 the information. That's not their 1195 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,400 responsibility. That's our 1196 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,040 responsibility. It's yours. Yours your 1197 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,400 responsibility to give us the 1198 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,640 information. And thank you, Chairman 1199 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,079 Connley, for digging into this and 1200 00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:10,319 bringing us back factual information 1201 00:51:10,319 --> 00:51:14,400 because we have to make the decisions. 1202 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,079 We're not putting a price on people. 1203 00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:17,359 We're not putting a price on our 1204 00:51:17,359 --> 00:51:18,880 taxpayers. 1205 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,400 We are putting respect on all 1206 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,480 individuals involved in this project and 1207 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,040 I don't take it lightly. Do not take it 1208 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,640 lightly. 1209 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,119 I take this very seriously. And it's not 1210 00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:31,680 that I was a sore athlete. Heaven forbid 1211 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,280 when I ran track back in the day. It's 1212 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:34,880 like I hopped over the holes on a track 1213 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,359 in South High School. 1214 00:51:37,359 --> 00:51:39,430 >> Yeah. I mean, it was like you hear the 1215 00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:39,440 » Yeah. I mean, it was like you hear the 1216 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,440 comments. It was fine for me back in my 1217 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,319 day. Yeah. I turned out all right. There 1218 00:51:44,319 --> 00:51:45,760 wasn't much of a field. I remember when 1219 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,000 Broly Middle School had a barn for a 1220 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,440 gym. Do we want that for the kids? We 1221 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:55,040 want acceptable, decent facilities for 1222 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,119 our children. 1223 00:51:57,119 --> 00:52:00,079 We want them to have opportunity. 1224 00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:02,000 I will tell you the number of students 1225 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,800 that say, "I would do sports, but if I 1226 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,640 don't have a ride, I can't. I've got to 1227 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,520 get on the bus." Even if buses provide 1228 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:14,390 transportation, it gets so complicated. 1229 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,359 I want to be able to say that I've done 1230 00:52:17,359 --> 00:52:19,280 my homework, done my research, done my 1231 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,040 thinking, done my prayers, done my 1232 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,720 thoughts, that I want every student that 1233 00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:26,880 attends Weathers Creek High School to 1234 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,359 have the same opportunity that the other 1235 00:52:29,359 --> 00:52:32,559 students have at the other high schools. 1236 00:52:32,559 --> 00:52:34,559 Thank you. 1237 00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:37,270 >> Anybody else? 1238 00:52:37,270 --> 00:52:37,280 » Anybody else? 1239 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,630 >> Commissioner, have you got a motion? 1240 00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:38,640 » Commissioner, have you got a motion? 1241 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,710 >> Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a motion 1242 00:52:40,710 --> 00:52:40,720 » Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a motion 1243 00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:43,680 that we approve the formal request from 1244 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,440 Ireland State Schools for the 20 1245 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:50,079 million. Um the I Central School Board 1246 00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:51,440 of Education has approved a formal 1247 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:52,720 request for Ardal County Board of 1248 00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:54,240 Commissioners for 20 million and county 1249 00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:56,000 funding to complete phase two of 1250 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,400 Weathers Creek High School. The funding 1251 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,480 combined with the district's identified 1252 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,040 contribution per March's presentation 1253 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,839 and Montist attached letter outlining 1254 00:53:05,839 --> 00:53:08,240 the scope adjustments and measures taken 1255 00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:11,040 to achieve the savings for this project. 1256 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,160 It also would include uh the approval 1257 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,720 for the phase 2 funding including budget 1258 00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:18,800 amendment number six and amended to the 1259 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,200 capital projects ordinance. And I'd like 1260 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,359 to make a motion as part of this motion 1261 00:53:23,359 --> 00:53:26,160 for the appropriation to come from the 1262 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,319 future capital reserve fund balance to 1263 00:53:28,319 --> 00:53:30,000 transfer to Weathers Creek Capital 1264 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,760 Project Fund to provide funding for 1265 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:36,559 athletics at Weathers Creek High School. 1266 00:53:36,559 --> 00:53:38,230 >> Motion by Commissioner Halp. All in 1267 00:53:38,230 --> 00:53:38,240 » Motion by Commissioner Halp. All in 1268 00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:39,200 favor say I. 1269 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:40,470 >> I. 1270 00:53:40,470 --> 00:53:40,480 » I. 1271 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:41,990 >> All oppose. 1272 00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:42,000 » All oppose. 1273 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,270 >> No. 1274 00:53:43,270 --> 00:53:43,280 » No. 1275 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,069 >> Motion passes 32. 1276 00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:46,079 » Motion passes 32. 1277 00:53:46,079 --> 00:53:48,800 County manager. Our next one. 1278 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,710 >> Thank you, Mr. Sherrick also has the 1279 00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:50,720 » Thank you, Mr. Sherrick also has the 1280 00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:52,000 next item and that's a request from 1281 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,960 Ardell Statesville Schools for I'm sorry 1282 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,079 um Miss Taylor has a budget amendment 1283 00:53:58,079 --> 00:53:59,760 for you and she will give that to you. 1284 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,319 I'm sorry I forgot about that one. So um 1285 00:54:02,319 --> 00:54:04,000 you referenced where the funding is 1286 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,920 coming from. Miss Taylor has the budget 1287 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,760 amendment and she will provide that for 1288 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,839 you for your packets. She worked a 1289 00:54:09,839 --> 00:54:12,079 couple of different options but um is 1290 00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:14,000 there anything that you need to say 1291 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:22,630 regarding that for the record? 1292 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,280 Do I need to amend my motion? 1293 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,870 >> I I think the the funding is a little 1294 00:54:28,870 --> 00:54:28,880 » I I think the the funding is a little 1295 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,790 >> it's a little different. So, do you mind 1296 00:54:30,790 --> 00:54:30,800 » it's a little different. So, do you mind 1297 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,480 stepping to the podium? Let's just 1298 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:33,270 >> That's cleared up now. 1299 00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:33,280 » That's cleared up now. 1300 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,230 >> Get that cleared up now. 1301 00:54:34,230 --> 00:54:34,240 » Get that cleared up now. 1302 00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:34,870 >> Let's do it now. 1303 00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:34,880 » Let's do it now. 1304 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:41,910 >> Um before we move to the next item. 1305 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,160 So for for budget amendment number six 1306 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,359 for Weather's Creek um there we have in 1307 00:54:47,359 --> 00:54:49,280 the general fund every year you know we 1308 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,760 budget for future capital projects. 1309 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,119 Anything that's not spent at the end of 1310 00:54:53,119 --> 00:54:54,960 the year run rolls into that future 1311 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,280 capital reserve for so for Weathers 1312 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:01,920 Creek um in FY27 we have $16.3 million 1313 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,480 that's budgeted in the general fund. 1314 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,119 This budget amendment spends all of that 1315 00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:09,839 16.3 in the general fund and the 1316 00:55:09,839 --> 00:55:13,839 remaining three 3,696,400 1317 00:55:13,839 --> 00:55:15,359 will come from the future capital 1318 00:55:15,359 --> 00:55:17,680 reserve. The future capital reserve 1319 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,760 estimated fund balance at the end of 1320 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:25,670 June was um 16,877,000. 1321 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,880 So appropriating $3.6 million reduces 1322 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,800 that down to $13.1 million. Um, so for 1323 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,400 Weathers Creek, the funds would come 1324 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,319 from what we have allocated in the 1325 00:55:36,319 --> 00:55:38,800 future capital or in the capital project 1326 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,720 in the general fund with the three 1327 00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:43,359 million also coming from the the fund 1328 00:55:43,359 --> 00:55:43,839 balance. 1329 00:55:43,839 --> 00:55:45,910 >> So, do I need to amend my motion to 1330 00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:45,920 » So, do I need to amend my motion to 1331 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,839 include the wording as you mentioned? 1332 00:55:47,839 --> 00:55:48,390 >> Yes. 1333 00:55:48,390 --> 00:55:48,400 » Yes. 1334 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,349 >> So, move to amend my motion to add that 1335 00:55:51,349 --> 00:55:51,359 » So, move to amend my motion to add that 1336 00:55:51,359 --> 00:55:55,750 to it. 1337 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,000 » Okay. Motion by Commissioner Hal. All in 1338 00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,599 favor say I. I. 1339 00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:00,789 >> Any oppose? 1340 00:56:00,789 --> 00:56:00,799 » Any oppose? 1341 00:56:00,799 --> 00:56:02,230 >> Nay. 1342 00:56:02,230 --> 00:56:02,240 » Nay. 1343 00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:04,720 Motion passes 32. 1344 00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:05,670 >> Thank you. 1345 00:56:05,670 --> 00:56:05,680 » Thank you. 1346 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,910 >> Okay. So, the next item that we have is 1347 00:56:07,910 --> 00:56:07,920 » Okay. So, the next item that we have is 1348 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,599 a request from Ireel Sexville Schools 1349 00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:12,720 for approval of GMP3 for Parkertown 1350 00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:14,240 Elementary School budget amendment 1351 00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:16,000 number eight and amendment to the 1352 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,000 Parkertown capital project ordinance. 1353 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,920 Mr. Shin Carrick. 1354 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,549 >> Yes. Um, you know, this is we're using a 1355 00:56:22,549 --> 00:56:22,559 » Yes. Um, you know, this is we're using a 1356 00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:25,200 construction manager at risk uh you know 1357 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,799 project delivery for Parkertown 1358 00:56:26,799 --> 00:56:30,000 Elementary School. You have previously 1359 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,200 approved GMP 1 and two. GMP one was for 1360 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,599 early procurement and doing some early 1361 00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:39,040 site work. GMP2 was the big one which 1362 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,640 included most of the construction costs 1363 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:45,280 there. The last one here for um GMP3 is 1364 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,880 for off-site work and utility work. And 1365 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:54,079 so we um had that out to bid and uh 1366 00:56:54,079 --> 00:56:57,119 received um a letter from the 1367 00:56:57,119 --> 00:57:01,040 construction manager JM COPE with a 1368 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,280 total value of a guaranteed maximum 1369 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,240 price for the last bid package for 3 1370 00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:08,960 million 3.6 million and some change 1371 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,040 there uh which includes as I had 1372 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,640 mentioned construction cost contingency 1373 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,400 bond insurance and the CER fee. Um so 1374 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,160 the total project um construction cost 1375 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:24,160 for the project is just over $41 1376 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,559 million. 1377 00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:30,160 We have also kind of shored up our 1378 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,160 budget in there too looking at the soft 1379 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,040 cost associated with the project. 1380 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,839 You know these are going to be things um 1381 00:57:37,839 --> 00:57:40,160 like FFN 1382 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,799 and other contingencies associated with 1383 00:57:42,799 --> 00:57:45,440 the project. Um, and so we have an 1384 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:51,200 all-in budget of $52 million. 1385 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,760 There are we have identified 1386 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,240 close to 1387 00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:00,960 four $4.8 million in reimburseables 1388 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,319 from the project. So there's a lot of 1389 00:58:04,319 --> 00:58:06,799 DOT work required for this project. That 1390 00:58:06,799 --> 00:58:09,920 intersection at Parkertown and 21. 1391 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,880 And quite honestly, we haven't even had 1392 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:17,280 got DOT to land on what that scope of of 1393 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,599 that intersection is going to look like. 1394 00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:21,920 So, if you're not familiar, they they're 1395 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,599 a little slow to come back on some 1396 00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:25,119 things. And so, that that part's been 1397 00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:26,880 pretty tedious. We are working with the 1398 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,319 town of Troutman as well, too, as part 1399 00:58:28,319 --> 00:58:30,559 of the intersection, bring water to the 1400 00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:35,119 school site. And um so there's that 1401 00:58:35,119 --> 00:58:37,520 portion of the project 1402 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,920 seems to be on schedule there, but 1403 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,280 there's a lot of permitting and things 1404 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,280 that need to happen with that part of 1405 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,680 the project as well too. So we do have 1406 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,799 some money kind of some some um money 1407 00:58:48,799 --> 00:58:51,599 built into that that that reimbursement 1408 00:58:51,599 --> 00:58:54,079 will not come right away. And even 1409 00:58:54,079 --> 00:58:57,040 without the reimbursement, this GMP3 was 1410 00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,680 very favorable for us. And so we're 1411 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,119 confident that there's going to be um 1412 00:59:03,119 --> 00:59:06,000 you know some it'll just it'll work out 1413 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,359 favorably and and I my hope would be 1414 00:59:09,359 --> 00:59:11,920 that we could earmark that money for 1415 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,079 this portion of the project or reimburse 1416 00:59:14,079 --> 00:59:17,440 any of the money that you funded towards 1417 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,720 Weather's Creek for that 1418 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,040 too. So 1419 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,559 I'll take any questions you might have. 1420 00:59:24,559 --> 00:59:27,030 >> Any questions from Mark? 1421 00:59:27,030 --> 00:59:27,040 » Any questions from Mark? 1422 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,030 >> Do we have a motion? 1423 00:59:29,030 --> 00:59:29,040 » Do we have a motion? 1424 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,559 Make a motion to approve. 1425 00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:32,630 >> Make a motion. Motion by Commissioner 1426 00:59:32,630 --> 00:59:32,640 » Make a motion. Motion by Commissioner 1427 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,640 Strat. All in favor say I. I. 1428 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,670 >> Any oppose? Motion carries. Five vote. 1429 00:59:37,670 --> 00:59:37,680 » Any oppose? Motion carries. Five vote. 1430 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:42,950 >> Thank you very much, sir. 1431 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,400 » Now, administrative matters that we did 1432 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:45,440 at the pre-aggenda. 1433 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,349 >> That takes care of all of our um items 1434 00:59:49,349 --> 00:59:49,359 » That takes care of all of our um items 1435 00:59:49,359 --> 00:59:50,799 for the six o'clock. I'm going to go 1436 00:59:50,799 --> 00:59:52,559 through and review all of the items that 1437 00:59:52,559 --> 00:59:54,559 we reviewed at our four o'clock that the 1438 00:59:54,559 --> 00:59:56,880 board placed on the consent agenda. We 1439 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:58,400 had a request from the health department 1440 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,240 for approval of budget amendment number 1441 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,319 four for the public health um 1442 01:00:02,319 --> 01:00:03,760 infrastructure local workforce 1443 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,119 development grant in the amount of 1444 01:00:05,119 --> 01:00:08,000 $14,283. 1445 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,599 There's a request from the library for 1446 01:00:09,599 --> 01:00:17,750 approval of a 4-year agreement with bibl 1447 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,079 for a selfch checkout kiosk system and 1448 01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:21,920 authorization for the county manager to 1449 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,079 execute the agreement. A request from 1450 01:00:24,079 --> 01:00:25,920 solid waste for approval of budget 1451 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,599 amendment number seven to amend the 1452 01:00:27,599 --> 01:00:30,400 solid waste capital project fund. Award 1453 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,280 a construction contract to SCS field 1454 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,760 services for the landfill gas expansion 1455 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,520 project and authorizing the county 1456 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,480 manager to execute the contract that um 1457 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:41,839 budget amendment in the amount of 1458 01:00:41,839 --> 01:00:46,230 1,871,968. 1459 01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,160 We had a request from the purchasing 1460 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,079 division for approval of a professional 1461 01:00:50,079 --> 01:00:51,839 architectural engineering services 1462 01:00:51,839 --> 01:00:53,839 contract for the Arredell County 1463 01:00:53,839 --> 01:00:55,520 government center south renovation 1464 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,359 project and authorizing the county 1465 01:00:57,359 --> 01:01:00,400 manager to execute that agreement. The 1466 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:05,030 um contract is the amount of 337,378. 1467 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:06,960 A request from purchasing for approval 1468 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,559 of a lighting service and lease 1469 01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:10,400 agreement with Duke Energy and 1470 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,000 authorization for the county manager to 1471 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,160 execute that agreement. And this is for 1472 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,559 lights at the fairgrounds. 1473 01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:18,880 a request from purchasing for approval 1474 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,599 of the declaration of surplus and 1475 01:01:21,599 --> 01:01:23,599 donation of personal property to 1476 01:01:23,599 --> 01:01:25,440 entities carrying out a public purpose 1477 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,520 and this is the donation of three 1478 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,160 surplus stair chairs and it is going to 1479 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,559 the Cleveland Cleveland County Volunteer 1480 01:01:32,559 --> 01:01:34,880 Fire Department. a request from 1481 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,960 purchasing for consideration of an offer 1482 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,799 to purchase the Bluefield Road property 1483 01:01:38,799 --> 01:01:42,160 by upset bid and the uh offer was in the 1484 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,520 amount of $1.1 million for 43 acres and 1485 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,520 the board agreed by consent to reject 1486 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,400 that offer. a request from from 1487 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,319 purchasing for approval of a resolution 1488 01:01:52,319 --> 01:01:53,839 authorizing the sale of personal 1489 01:01:53,839 --> 01:01:57,040 property by public auction. And this is 1490 01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:58,799 um 1491 01:01:58,799 --> 01:02:00,640 selling by public auction surplus 1492 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:04,079 vehicles that total over $30,000 1493 01:02:04,079 --> 01:02:06,640 collectively, not individually. Request 1494 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,480 from finance for approval of budget 1495 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,480 amendment number five to transfer funds 1496 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,480 from the sheriff's office budget to the 1497 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,200 jail budget to cover increased jail 1498 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,200 medical expenses. These are residual 1499 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,680 funds that were saved in last year's 1500 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,240 budget that um was carried over and is 1501 01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,200 now being transferred and put into the 1502 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,160 inmate medical line item. A request from 1503 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:29,680 administration for discussion and 1504 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,400 decision about fiscal year 2027 fire 1505 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,480 funding and approval of budget amendment 1506 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,440 number nine. The uh board agreed by 1507 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,359 consent to fund half of additional half 1508 01:02:41,359 --> 01:02:43,119 of the staffing requests from the fire 1509 01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:45,280 departments, the incounty departments 1510 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,240 and provide a 2% increase in operational 1511 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,240 funding and then an additional 1512 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,400 supplement for Lake Norman and South 1513 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,880 Aredell volunteer fire departments. The 1514 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,799 uh out of county departments are held 1515 01:02:56,799 --> 01:02:58,880 flat 1516 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,319 and this appropriation will begin in the 1517 01:03:02,319 --> 01:03:04,400 the funding that begins the end of this 1518 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:04,960 month. So 1519 01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:06,789 >> question Do we need to add that to the 1520 01:03:06,789 --> 01:03:06,799 » question Do we need to add that to the 1521 01:03:06,799 --> 01:03:08,559 record that we got in between meetings 1522 01:03:08,559 --> 01:03:10,000 or you already have that in there? 1523 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:11,349 >> Yes, that's in here for budget amendment 1524 01:03:11,349 --> 01:03:11,359 » Yes, that's in here for budget amendment 1525 01:03:11,359 --> 01:03:12,799 number nine. That would be Sorry to 1526 01:03:12,799 --> 01:03:13,119 interrupt. 1527 01:03:13,119 --> 01:03:14,470 >> No, no, no. You're good. 1528 01:03:14,470 --> 01:03:14,480 » No, no, no. You're good. 1529 01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,029 >> Um request from administration for appro 1530 01:03:17,029 --> 01:03:17,039 » Um request from administration for appro 1531 01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:18,240 approval of the minutes from the 1532 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,359 September 7th, 2021, September 21st, 1533 01:03:21,359 --> 01:03:24,720 2021, and August 4th, 2026 board of 1534 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:25,920 commissioner meetings in the North 1535 01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,520 Carolina Cooperative Extension annual 1536 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,319 report to the people. And then finally, 1537 01:03:30,319 --> 01:03:32,559 the request from tax administration for 1538 01:03:32,559 --> 01:03:35,599 approval of the July 2026 releases and 1539 01:03:35,599 --> 01:03:37,760 refunds. All of those items were agreed 1540 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,039 by the board to place on the consent 1541 01:03:39,039 --> 01:03:40,000 agenda. 1542 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,670 >> Do we have a motion to approve the 1543 01:03:41,670 --> 01:03:41,680 » Do we have a motion to approve the 1544 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,359 pre-aggenda consent administrative 1545 01:03:43,359 --> 01:03:44,319 matters? Make a motion. 1546 01:03:44,319 --> 01:03:46,230 >> Approve the consent agenda. 1547 01:03:46,230 --> 01:03:46,240 » Approve the consent agenda. 1548 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,150 >> Motion by Vice Chair Neer. All in favor 1549 01:03:48,150 --> 01:03:48,160 » Motion by Vice Chair Neer. All in favor 1550 01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:49,359 say I. I. 1551 01:03:49,359 --> 01:03:51,829 >> Any opposed? They are approved. And with 1552 01:03:51,829 --> 01:03:51,839 » Any opposed? They are approved. And with 1553 01:03:51,839 --> 01:03:54,079 that, I would like for us to if we could 1554 01:03:54,079 --> 01:03:55,359 take a 10-minute break. If everybody's 1555 01:03:55,359 --> 01:03:57,039 good, 10-minute recess, just take a 1556 01:03:57,039 --> 01:03:59,760 10-minute recess. Start back at in 10 1557 01:03:59,760 --> 01:15:28,870 minutes. Thank you. 1558 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:30,640 Okay, we've been on a little bit of a 1559 01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:31,440 break 1560 01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:33,030 >> and also I need to turn it back over to 1561 01:15:33,030 --> 01:15:33,040 » and also I need to turn it back over to 1562 01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:34,480 Commissioner Hal. We got a little 1563 01:15:34,480 --> 01:15:36,400 cleaning of the house here to do. Turn 1564 01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:37,600 back over to Commissioner H for a 1565 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,000 second. 1566 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,030 >> Mr. Chairman, um we had a te technical 1567 01:15:43,030 --> 01:15:43,040 » Mr. Chairman, um we had a te technical 1568 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,120 difficulty in my previous motion. So, I 1569 01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:46,560 would like to make a motion that I 1570 01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,400 rescend 1571 01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,400 both my amendment and my original motion 1572 01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:55,030 on Weathers Creek High School. 1573 01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,440 » Okay. Motion to rescend by Commissioner 1574 01:15:57,440 --> 01:16:00,000 Halp. All in favor say I. 1575 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:00,709 >> I. 1576 01:16:00,709 --> 01:16:00,719 » I. 1577 01:16:00,719 --> 01:16:03,110 >> Any oppose? 1578 01:16:03,110 --> 01:16:03,120 » Any oppose? 1579 01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:04,159 Passes. 1580 01:16:04,159 --> 01:16:06,070 >> And do you have another new motion? My 1581 01:16:06,070 --> 01:16:06,080 » And do you have another new motion? My 1582 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,080 new motion would include that we're 1583 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:09,760 making a motion to approve the Idaho 1584 01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:11,760 State School Board of Education's formal 1585 01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,400 request for $20 million 1586 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,400 uh to complete phase two of Weathers 1587 01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,800 Creek High School. The funding combined 1588 01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:20,080 with the district's identified 1589 01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:21,600 contribution would allow the athletic 1590 01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,199 facilities to be completed as part of 1591 01:16:23,199 --> 01:16:24,719 overall Weathers Creek High School 1592 01:16:24,719 --> 01:16:27,440 project. Per the attached letter Monteth 1593 01:16:27,440 --> 01:16:29,120 outlines in the scope adjustments and 1594 01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:30,640 the measures taken to achieve these 1595 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:32,640 savings along with idle states was 1596 01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,280 identified approximately four million in 1597 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:38,080 possible contributions toward phase 2 1598 01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,159 savings realized in phase one and other 1599 01:16:40,159 --> 01:16:42,560 available district resources included 1600 01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:46,960 also in my motion to approve U BA number 1601 01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:50,159 six and amend the capital project 1602 01:16:50,159 --> 01:16:54,790 ordinance transferring 16,33,600 1603 01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,640 from 1604 01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:58,159 future capital projects and 1605 01:16:58,159 --> 01:17:01,360 appropriating 3,696400 1606 01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,040 from future capital reserve fund 1607 01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:06,870 balance. 1608 01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:08,719 » Motion by Commissioner H. All in favor 1609 01:17:08,719 --> 01:17:09,440 say I. 1610 01:17:09,440 --> 01:17:10,070 >> I. 1611 01:17:10,070 --> 01:17:10,080 » I. 1612 01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:11,750 >> Any oppose? 1613 01:17:11,750 --> 01:17:11,760 » Any oppose? 1614 01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:12,630 >> No. 1615 01:17:12,630 --> 01:17:12,640 » No. 1616 01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,270 >> Passes 32. 1617 01:17:15,270 --> 01:17:15,280 » Passes 32. 1618 01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:16,790 >> So we're good now, right? 1619 01:17:16,790 --> 01:17:16,800 » So we're good now, right? 1620 01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,310 >> Yes. Thank you. 1621 01:17:18,310 --> 01:17:18,320 » Yes. Thank you. 1622 01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,229 >> We're sticklers for for technical 1623 01:17:20,229 --> 01:17:20,239 » We're sticklers for for technical 1624 01:17:20,239 --> 01:17:20,560 detail. 1625 01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:21,189 >> Now's the time. 1626 01:17:21,189 --> 01:17:21,199 » Now's the time. 1627 01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:23,350 >> Sorry. Now's the time. brings us down to 1628 01:17:23,350 --> 01:17:23,360 » Sorry. Now's the time. brings us down to 1629 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:24,800 the announcement of vacancies occurring 1630 01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:27,440 on boards and commissions. 1631 01:17:27,440 --> 01:17:28,880 And since the county manager has been 1632 01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,080 busy trying to get this other stuff 1633 01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,000 done, I'll announce these. We have six 1634 01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,000 appointments on the adult care home 1635 01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:35,920 advisory committee. We have three 1636 01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:37,679 appointments on the Central Aging 1637 01:17:37,679 --> 01:17:39,840 Advisory Committee, two appointments 1638 01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:43,120 available on the Aarddale County JCPC, 1639 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:44,880 one appointment on the Morsel Board of 1640 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:47,600 Adjustment, ETJ, six appointments on the 1641 01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:50,159 nursing home advisory committee, one 1642 01:17:50,159 --> 01:17:52,000 appointment on the state planning board 1643 01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,800 ETJ, and one alternate appointment on 1644 01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,960 the Troutman Planning Board ETJ. If you 1645 01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,360 are interested in uh applying for any of 1646 01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,120 these, you can go to our website or you 1647 01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,199 can contact our clerk to the board, John 1648 01:18:03,199 --> 01:18:05,840 Bess. And now brings us down to the 1649 01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:07,199 appointments of boards and commissions. 1650 01:18:07,199 --> 01:18:08,960 And we have one tonight for farmland 1651 01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,360 preservation board and we have one for 1652 01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,199 the JCPC. And I'll turn it over to the 1653 01:18:13,199 --> 01:18:14,400 manager to go over those. 1654 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,189 >> Thank you, Chair Connley. Um we do have 1655 01:18:17,189 --> 01:18:17,199 » Thank you, Chair Connley. Um we do have 1656 01:18:17,199 --> 01:18:19,280 uh as Chair Connley said, we do have an 1657 01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,199 opening on the farmland preservation 1658 01:18:21,199 --> 01:18:23,679 board. Mr. James Steele's been serving 1659 01:18:23,679 --> 01:18:25,520 on that farmland preservation board and 1660 01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,080 his term expired. He has submitted an 1661 01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,320 application for reappointment. We did 1662 01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,040 receive three other applications. Um, 1663 01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,760 one was on the the table before you. So, 1664 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,400 we had uh William Johnson, Noah Clinden, 1665 01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,880 and Nancy Keith that have also applied 1666 01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:42,560 to serve on the Farmland Preservation 1667 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,040 Board. 1668 01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:46,310 >> Do we have a motion? 1669 01:18:46,310 --> 01:18:46,320 » Do we have a motion? 1670 01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:47,990 >> I'd like to make a motion we approve 1671 01:18:47,990 --> 01:18:48,000 » I'd like to make a motion we approve 1672 01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:49,840 Nancy Keith Farmland Preservation 1673 01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:51,360 Committee. 1674 01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,199 All in favor say I. 1675 01:18:53,199 --> 01:18:54,550 >> I. 1676 01:18:54,550 --> 01:18:54,560 » I. 1677 01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,990 >> Any oppose? Nancy Keith is approved for 1678 01:18:57,990 --> 01:18:58,000 » Any oppose? Nancy Keith is approved for 1679 01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,400 formal preservation. And our next one 1680 01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:02,560 for our county JCPC. 1681 01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:04,709 >> Yes. Uh Terry Johnson has been serving 1682 01:19:04,709 --> 01:19:04,719 » Yes. Uh Terry Johnson has been serving 1683 01:19:04,719 --> 01:19:07,199 on the JCPC board and her term has 1684 01:19:07,199 --> 01:19:09,920 expired and Tom Morris has submitted the 1685 01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:11,679 application to be considered to fill the 1686 01:19:11,679 --> 01:19:13,280 vacancy. And that's the only application 1687 01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:14,320 we've received on that one. 1688 01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,110 >> Do we have a motion? Motion to appoint 1689 01:19:17,110 --> 01:19:17,120 » Do we have a motion? Motion to appoint 1690 01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:21,679 Tom Morris to the Idard County JCPC. 1691 01:19:21,679 --> 01:19:23,270 >> Motion by Vice Chair Neater. All in 1692 01:19:23,270 --> 01:19:23,280 » Motion by Vice Chair Neater. All in 1693 01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:24,880 favor say I. 1694 01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,590 >> Any opposed? He is approved. 1695 01:19:27,590 --> 01:19:27,600 » Any opposed? He is approved. 1696 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,320 Going down our list of uh our agenda. 1697 01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,040 Anybody have any unfinished business at 1698 01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,520 the six o'clock 1699 01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:37,120 brings us down to our public comment 1700 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,440 period. The board conducts a public 1701 01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:41,440 comment period at its second regular 1702 01:19:41,440 --> 01:19:43,600 meeting of each month. The purpose of 1703 01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,360 the public comment period is to allow 1704 01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,360 citizens to speak on matters related to 1705 01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,760 county government. Each speaker that has 1706 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:51,440 signed up is allotted to three minutes 1707 01:19:51,440 --> 01:19:53,120 and will be called to the podium by the 1708 01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,199 chair in the order the names appear on 1709 01:19:55,199 --> 01:19:57,280 the sign-in sheet. Please state your 1710 01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,040 name and address before beginning your 1711 01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,520 comments. Comments are to be directed to 1712 01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,520 the board as a whole. Responses by the 1713 01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:05,679 board are at their discretion, but the 1714 01:20:05,679 --> 01:20:07,679 public comment period is not intended to 1715 01:20:07,679 --> 01:20:10,640 be a question and answer period, but 1716 01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,880 rather a time for the board to hear from 1717 01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:14,960 the public and take such matters raised 1718 01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,280 under advisement. Citizens will be 1719 01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,199 expected to be civil in their language 1720 01:20:19,199 --> 01:20:20,960 and presentation and not engage in 1721 01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:23,440 slander or name calling. Citizens should 1722 01:20:23,440 --> 01:20:25,600 not discuss any matters which are closed 1723 01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:27,199 session matters including but not 1724 01:20:27,199 --> 01:20:30,159 limited to limited to matters regarding 1725 01:20:30,159 --> 01:20:32,000 personnel matters which are made 1726 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,320 confidential by law. Speakers who have 1727 01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,400 prepared written remarks or supporting 1728 01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,239 documents are encouraged to leave a copy 1729 01:20:38,239 --> 01:20:40,239 of such remarks and documents with the 1730 01:20:40,239 --> 01:20:42,400 clerk to the board. I will open up the 1731 01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:44,560 public comment period and our first 1732 01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:47,040 person signed up is Ken Jurnney and when 1733 01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:48,560 you approach please state your name and 1734 01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:59,990 your full address. 1735 01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:01,920 My name is My name is Ken Journey. I 1736 01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:05,120 live 148 West Tol Drive, Statesville. 1737 01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:06,239 We're here to talk about fire 1738 01:21:06,239 --> 01:21:09,199 departments and uh just like to say that 1739 01:21:09,199 --> 01:21:12,719 uh Chairman Connley nailed it. 4:00 1740 01:21:12,719 --> 01:21:15,199 session lets me know y'all are fully 1741 01:21:15,199 --> 01:21:17,440 aware of the issues. I'm just not sure 1742 01:21:17,440 --> 01:21:20,480 that the general public is. Uh some 1743 01:21:20,480 --> 01:21:22,000 things that concerns me that I'm not 1744 01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,719 sure the public is aware of is that we 1745 01:21:24,719 --> 01:21:26,239 have $23 and half million dollars of 1746 01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:28,560 fire fire tax revenue this year. That's 1747 01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,239 $5 million short of what the fire 1748 01:21:30,239 --> 01:21:32,719 departments have requested the funding. 1749 01:21:32,719 --> 01:21:34,800 We're $30 million behind on apparatus 1750 01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,880 replacement. We're having to replace 1751 01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,280 volunteers with paid personnel and that 1752 01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:43,440 is a huge increase in the budget. uh to 1753 01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:45,040 maintain the low insurance rates, our 1754 01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,520 fire departments have to respond four 1755 01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,920 firefighters with one engine to all 1756 01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:53,199 district building fire calls. And when 1757 01:21:53,199 --> 01:21:56,239 you consider that the cost of four 247 1758 01:21:56,239 --> 01:21:58,800 365 firefighters cost about five to 10 1759 01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:00,159 times more than those million-dollar 1760 01:22:00,159 --> 01:22:01,679 fire engines, we're concerned about that 1761 01:22:01,679 --> 01:22:04,320 cost. Fire engines are peanuts compared 1762 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:07,520 to the the boots on the ground. And our 1763 01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,679 fire districts are so widely diverse. I 1764 01:22:09,679 --> 01:22:11,520 think y'all know that a funding formula 1765 01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:14,639 just doesn't work and annexation as 1766 01:22:14,639 --> 01:22:16,560 chairman Connley mentioned that's 1767 01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:20,880 decreasing the pot the budget and the 1768 01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:22,639 big issue coming up in November is that 1769 01:22:22,639 --> 01:22:24,239 vote that may limit how much we can 1770 01:22:24,239 --> 01:22:26,239 increase taxes. So where's the money 1771 01:22:26,239 --> 01:22:28,320 going to come from? 1772 01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:29,440 We don't know how much money we're going 1773 01:22:29,440 --> 01:22:31,280 to need to y'all do all these 1774 01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,400 negotiations and finalize those. But 1775 01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:35,679 we're going to need more funding 1776 01:22:35,679 --> 01:22:37,840 primarily because this paid labor that 1777 01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,560 trains it's through the tunnel and it's 1778 01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:44,000 going to get even worse. So where do we 1779 01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:46,080 come up with the money? You know, it's 1780 01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:50,950 the tax increase, you know, 1781 01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:54,320 or other sources. And I'm going to 1782 01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:56,080 suggest one of the most common sense 1783 01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,560 things I think we can do is insurance 1784 01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,199 companies will pay for fire department 1785 01:23:01,199 --> 01:23:03,280 responses to incidents. And that is a 1786 01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,520 good way for us to recover some fun some 1787 01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,600 some monies from people who don't pay 1788 01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:09,199 any taxes here because a lot of these 1789 01:23:09,199 --> 01:23:10,880 accidents on our major highways and 1790 01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,600 interstates. 1791 01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:16,960 As an example, our $19.5 million EMS 1792 01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:18,400 budget, we recover about a third of that 1793 01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,400 with ambulance transportation. We pay 1794 01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,520 taxes for uh recreation facilities and 1795 01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:25,360 we have to pay dues for using the Barry 1796 01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:29,360 Springs Rec Center. uh 1797 01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:30,880 insurance companies will pay and I've 1798 01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,840 got a uh an outline of the uh some of 1799 01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:35,440 the funds that they will pay. I think we 1800 01:23:35,440 --> 01:23:37,280 should consider that going forward. If 1801 01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:38,800 we could recover a third of our fire 1802 01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,840 department budget, $24 million, we could 1803 01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,639 recover $8 million. We probably going to 1804 01:23:44,639 --> 01:23:46,800 need that on top of $24 million coming 1805 01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:48,239 down. So, that's another way to get it 1806 01:23:48,239 --> 01:23:50,560 from somebody other than just getting 1807 01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,280 the tax paid the taxpayers. I'll use uh 1808 01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:55,840 Lake Norman's uh fire district as an 1809 01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:58,320 example. They your your figures show 1810 01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:01,199 they provide 28% of the revenue but only 1811 01:24:01,199 --> 01:24:04,320 7% of the cost. So, you know, you know, 1812 01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,719 I know the property valuation pays for 1813 01:24:06,719 --> 01:24:08,880 everything, but there's a way to uh to 1814 01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:12,320 spread that around. So, uh I s just 1815 01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:15,520 suggest that you look at at that 1816 01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,239 supplementary funding. And I'd like to 1817 01:24:18,239 --> 01:24:20,639 suggest that you uh open up the fire 1818 01:24:20,639 --> 01:24:22,080 department oversight committee again 1819 01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,800 because I think that will improve uh all 1820 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,239 kinds of communications with the fire 1821 01:24:26,239 --> 01:24:28,239 departments going forward. 1822 01:24:28,239 --> 01:24:30,629 >> Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mr. J. Rhonda 1823 01:24:30,629 --> 01:24:30,639 » Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mr. J. Rhonda 1824 01:24:30,639 --> 01:24:42,709 Wall 1825 01:24:42,719 --> 01:24:45,360 this down. Good evening, uh, Chairman 1826 01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,679 Connelly and county commissioners. I 1827 01:24:47,679 --> 01:24:50,960 come before you as a private Ardell 1828 01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,840 resident. Um, I'll make this short and 1829 01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:55,280 sweet. I want to thank you for the 1830 01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,040 generous support of our students and 1831 01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:59,840 schools by providing funding for 1832 01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:02,800 Weathers Creek athletic facilities. Your 1833 01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:05,120 investment will create opportunities for 1834 01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,760 students to participate, compete, and 1835 01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:09,920 build valuable skills both on and off 1836 01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,800 the field. I sincerely appreciate your 1837 01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:14,560 commitment to our schools and our 1838 01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,639 community. Your support makes a 1839 01:25:16,639 --> 01:25:18,480 meaningful diff difference and I'm 1840 01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:20,480 grateful for your partnership. 1841 01:25:20,480 --> 01:25:21,990 >> Good evening. Thank you so much. 1842 01:25:21,990 --> 01:25:22,000 » Good evening. Thank you so much. 1843 01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:22,550 >> Thank you. 1844 01:25:22,550 --> 01:25:22,560 » Thank you. 1845 01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:23,669 >> Thank you, brother. 1846 01:25:23,669 --> 01:25:23,679 » Thank you, brother. 1847 01:25:23,679 --> 01:25:54,550 >> Paula Mo 1848 01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,760 Is this good volume? Can you hear it? 1849 01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:58,790 >> Okay. 1850 01:25:58,790 --> 01:25:58,800 » Okay. 1851 01:25:58,800 --> 01:25:59,910 >> Just state your name and address, 1852 01:25:59,910 --> 01:25:59,920 » Just state your name and address, 1853 01:25:59,920 --> 01:26:01,760 please, ma'am. 1854 01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:04,709 >> My name is Paula Mimna. I live at 260 1855 01:26:04,709 --> 01:26:04,719 » My name is Paula Mimna. I live at 260 1856 01:26:04,719 --> 01:26:08,719 Rivercliffe Drive, Stony Point 1857 01:26:08,719 --> 01:26:10,800 in Iridel County. 1858 01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:12,560 I'm concerned about the lack of 1859 01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:15,040 transparency with the Iridel Statesville 1860 01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:18,880 Schools budget. I sent a foyer request 1861 01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:23,600 for the 2627 rep proposed budget for ISS 1862 01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:26,960 on July 21st, 2026. 1863 01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:30,000 Now, that's been over four weeks. I have 1864 01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,880 not I submitted that request for 1865 01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:36,159 expenditures of at least $1,000 or more, 1866 01:26:36,159 --> 01:26:39,120 but I have received nothing. Um, the 1867 01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,360 completed budget was due to the Iridell 1868 01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:44,239 County Commissioners, that's you all, by 1869 01:26:44,239 --> 01:26:48,239 May 15th. But I've checked with uh 1870 01:26:48,239 --> 01:26:49,840 Scotty Brown. He said, "You don't have 1871 01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,000 the budget. You don't have a copy of 1872 01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,880 it." Um, I think that's a problem. 1873 01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:58,400 According to policy code 8100, budget 1874 01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:00,000 planning and adoption, that should have 1875 01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,920 been done. So, um, the commissioners if 1876 01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,400 they don't have a copy of it, it that 1877 01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,639 just seems like a big problem to me. 1878 01:27:08,639 --> 01:27:11,040 Now, the latest budget resolution is a 1879 01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:15,679 very basic fivepage summary for 2526, 1880 01:27:15,679 --> 01:27:18,400 not for the coming year. That's for last 1881 01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:21,360 year. There's nothing on the on the 1882 01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:24,400 internet for next year. Nothing. 1883 01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,719 And a budget resolution is not the 1884 01:27:26,719 --> 01:27:28,639 budget. It's just a very very small 1885 01:27:28,639 --> 01:27:31,360 summary of it. 1886 01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,080 So, um why should the county 1887 01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:35,520 commissioners give money to a school 1888 01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:38,320 board who won't submit a budget? That is 1889 01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:40,320 in their um policy that they would 1890 01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:42,719 submit the budget to you. And this is 1891 01:27:42,719 --> 01:27:45,360 three months after the final deadline it 1892 01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:48,719 was due yet. You don't have a budget. 1893 01:27:48,719 --> 01:27:50,800 Now, Chairman Knight has usurped the 1894 01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:52,480 authority of the school board and he has 1895 01:27:52,480 --> 01:27:55,840 not followed the ISS policies. He failed 1896 01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:57,280 to communicate with the rest of the 1897 01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,040 board of the school board on many 1898 01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,760 occasions. On in the August 10th 1899 01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:03,280 meeting, Knight was asked if he thought 1900 01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:04,719 it was correct to meet with the 1901 01:28:04,719 --> 01:28:07,199 commissioners, but failed to communicate 1902 01:28:07,199 --> 01:28:09,600 with the rest of the board when he was 1903 01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:11,040 told that the commissioners would not 1904 01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:14,159 give the 34 million, but instead 20 1905 01:28:14,159 --> 01:28:15,920 million for the new athletic center at 1906 01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,639 Weathers Creek High School. Now, the new 1907 01:28:18,639 --> 01:28:20,960 figure was given, I believe, to Mr. 1908 01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,280 Shinkerink. No, I'm saying that wrong. 1909 01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:25,840 Shin Carrick, I'm sorry, Shing Carrick, 1910 01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,239 who apparently made changes to the plans 1911 01:28:28,239 --> 01:28:29,679 for the athletic field without 1912 01:28:29,679 --> 01:28:31,920 consulting with the rest of the board. 1913 01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:33,760 That's what was discussed at that board 1914 01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,719 meeting on August 10th. It's unknown 1915 01:28:36,719 --> 01:28:39,679 whether or not Shank Carrick dis 1916 01:28:39,679 --> 01:28:41,840 consulted with Knight, but either way, 1917 01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:44,239 it's against policy. 1918 01:28:44,239 --> 01:28:46,639 The rest of the board was not notified 1919 01:28:46,639 --> 01:28:48,480 about the change in the funding and the 1920 01:28:48,480 --> 01:28:50,400 plans to the athletic the change to the 1921 01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,800 athletic field at Weathers Creek until 1922 01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:54,639 the Friday before the school board 1923 01:28:54,639 --> 01:28:56,960 meeting August 10th. Now, that was 2 1924 01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:00,480 weeks after that information had been um 1925 01:29:00,480 --> 01:29:03,760 gotten by night, two weeks later. 1926 01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:05,760 The chain of command for Ivale State 1927 01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:09,040 Schools is as follows. The school board, 1928 01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,920 not the chair. The school board as a 1929 01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,960 whole is over the superintendent who's 1930 01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,280 over the principles who are over the 1931 01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:20,400 teachers. The school board is the 1932 01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,840 governing body. No one person has 1933 01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,719 control over the board. Knight stated 1934 01:29:26,719 --> 01:29:28,560 that he has the right to represent the 1935 01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:32,400 board by himself. And uh this is not 1936 01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:36,000 true. According to the ISS policy 2100, 1937 01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,080 Knight has said on several occasions he 1938 01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:40,639 doesn't need to follow. 1939 01:29:40,639 --> 01:29:42,950 >> I just have a little bit more. 1940 01:29:42,950 --> 01:29:42,960 » I just have a little bit more. 1941 01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:44,790 >> Okay. That he doesn't need to follow all 1942 01:29:44,790 --> 01:29:44,800 » Okay. That he doesn't need to follow all 1943 01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:46,719 of the ISS policies because the school 1944 01:29:46,719 --> 01:29:48,000 board is self-governing. 1945 01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:49,910 >> Paula, you use your time. I give you 1946 01:29:49,910 --> 01:29:49,920 » Paula, you use your time. I give you 1947 01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:50,639 over. Okay. 1948 01:29:50,639 --> 01:29:51,030 >> All right. 1949 01:29:51,030 --> 01:29:51,040 » All right. 1950 01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:52,709 >> Sorry. I give you over. 1951 01:29:52,709 --> 01:29:52,719 » Sorry. I give you over. 1952 01:29:52,719 --> 01:29:53,990 >> Anybody else here would like to speak on 1953 01:29:53,990 --> 01:29:54,000 » Anybody else here would like to speak on 1954 01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:57,270 any matter? 1955 01:29:57,280 --> 01:29:58,880 » Just come up. Announce your name and 1956 01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:05,189 address. 1957 01:30:05,199 --> 01:30:12,070 We were hiding it. 1958 01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:14,560 » Michael Cuban 125 Huntington Place in 1959 01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:16,320 Morsville. Thank you for your 1960 01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:18,000 deliberations tonight on your very 1961 01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:19,520 difficult decision to fund the high 1962 01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:21,920 school athletic facilities. I draw your 1963 01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:24,080 attention to the colorful diagram and to 1964 01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,560 the mont documents you were given for 1965 01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:30,159 this briefing. Um the vice chair vice 1966 01:30:30,159 --> 01:30:32,000 madam chair said it is our 1967 01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,000 responsibility paraphrasing as elected 1968 01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:36,639 officials to dig into the facts and to 1969 01:30:36,639 --> 01:30:38,320 make decisions for those that elected to 1970 01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:40,800 us. All these documents that you 1971 01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:42,800 received in your package I didn't get 1972 01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:46,080 until Friday and I spent many hours on 1973 01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:47,840 Saturday before a board meeting on the 1974 01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,800 following Monday to look at all this. 1975 01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:52,639 You've heard a lot of you've heard a lot 1976 01:30:52,639 --> 01:30:55,040 of discussion about we we reviewed this, 1977 01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:57,440 we reviewed that, we we cut the scope, 1978 01:30:57,440 --> 01:31:01,360 we changed things. Well, the we in that 1979 01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:04,239 sentence is not the is not me and it 1980 01:31:04,239 --> 01:31:06,159 wasn't other members on the board. We 1981 01:31:06,159 --> 01:31:08,719 were not involved in the decision-making 1982 01:31:08,719 --> 01:31:11,760 process on any of this and chairman 1983 01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:13,600 Halp, you know, don't judge me by my 1984 01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:16,159 actions until you look at my options. 1985 01:31:16,159 --> 01:31:18,560 Well, I had no options. I wasn't 1986 01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:21,120 involved in the decision-making process 1987 01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:23,280 on any of this and neither were my 1988 01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:26,000 fellow board members. Now, I visited the 1989 01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:27,920 school recently and it's a first rate. 1990 01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:29,920 It's going to be a first rate school. 1991 01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:32,719 It's going to be the gem of our county 1992 01:31:32,719 --> 01:31:35,360 and we only have one chance to do this 1993 01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:39,440 right. And it is my opinion that 1994 01:31:39,440 --> 01:31:41,440 building the school in the manner that 1995 01:31:41,440 --> 01:31:43,120 was briefed to you tonight isn't going 1996 01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:46,560 to do that. We should be we should be 1997 01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:48,000 building the school. Well, this is what 1998 01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,600 the public decided on before my time and 1999 01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:53,520 before many of yours, right? This is 2000 01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:55,679 what was decided. And if we're not going 2001 01:31:55,679 --> 01:31:57,360 to build this, we should take it back to 2002 01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:59,360 the people as two of the board members 2003 01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:05,270 tonight discussed. 2004 01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:11,520 You already have twothirds of the money. 2005 01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:14,480 So, I'm asking you, the three members 2006 01:32:14,480 --> 01:32:16,320 who voted in favor of the motions, to 2007 01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:19,280 reconsider the motion 2008 01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:21,840 and perhaps do something like a phased 2009 01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:24,239 approach to build as designed. This is 2010 01:32:24,239 --> 01:32:27,199 what we designed or what was designed. I 2011 01:32:27,199 --> 01:32:29,120 didn't design it, but build this as 2012 01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:32,639 design and make this the hallmark of our 2013 01:32:32,639 --> 01:32:34,159 county, something we're going to be 2014 01:32:34,159 --> 01:32:36,560 really proud of and not look like a 2015 01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:39,040 half-finished high school 2016 01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:40,800 because this is not what we want in our 2017 01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:42,960 county. 2018 01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,760 And finally, for example, if you're a 2019 01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:47,199 tennis player and you come to this 2020 01:32:47,199 --> 01:32:49,840 school with no tennis courts, you can't 2021 01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,159 go to another school to play tennis. You 2022 01:32:52,159 --> 01:32:54,239 can't do it. 2023 01:32:54,239 --> 01:32:56,239 And then finally, I would just suggest 2024 01:32:56,239 --> 01:32:58,480 to you is I I know board members across 2025 01:32:58,480 --> 01:33:01,360 the state and they regularly meet with 2026 01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:02,880 their county commissioners sometimes 2027 01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:05,679 twice a year or at least once a year and 2028 01:33:05,679 --> 01:33:07,440 I would recommend that we do that 2029 01:33:07,440 --> 01:33:09,120 because there's more topics to discuss 2030 01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:11,520 just than money. It's just everything 2031 01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:12,800 that's going on in the county and 2032 01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,199 growth. So I would highly suggest 2033 01:33:15,199 --> 01:33:16,800 recommend that you do that going in the 2034 01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:18,960 future. So I'd ask that you reconsider 2035 01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:20,400 the motion. Thank you. 2036 01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:22,390 >> Anyone else? 2037 01:33:22,390 --> 01:33:22,400 » Anyone else? 2038 01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:23,920 Hearing none. See none, I'll close the 2039 01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,560 public comment period 2040 01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:28,229 >> and commissioner updates. I'll start 2041 01:33:28,229 --> 01:33:28,239 » and commissioner updates. I'll start 2042 01:33:28,239 --> 01:33:29,440 back here. Commissioner, have you got 2043 01:33:29,440 --> 01:33:30,080 anything? 2044 01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:35,110 >> Yes. I would just say that um 2045 01:33:35,110 --> 01:33:35,120 » Yes. I would just say that um 2046 01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:37,280 we never get the school budget. To 2047 01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:40,080 respond to Paula briefly, we fund the 2048 01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,159 schools based on a formula we had agreed 2049 01:33:42,159 --> 01:33:44,880 on in previous years past or and 2050 01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:45,830 >> we do get the budget. 2051 01:33:45,830 --> 01:33:45,840 » we do get the budget. 2052 01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:48,070 >> We do get the budget, but we we fund on 2053 01:33:48,070 --> 01:33:48,080 » We do get the budget, but we we fund on 2054 01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:51,920 a formula. But as far as the complaints, 2055 01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:53,440 they need to go to the school board. But 2056 01:33:53,440 --> 01:33:54,880 the schools audited annually. We're 2057 01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:57,120 audited annually. So the schools are 2058 01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:58,159 spending the money where they say 2059 01:33:58,159 --> 01:34:00,239 they're spending it. 2060 01:34:00,239 --> 01:34:03,199 Um I understand Mike's thing with the 2061 01:34:03,199 --> 01:34:05,440 scope. We'd love to be able to do the 2062 01:34:05,440 --> 01:34:07,440 original scope. We're having to make 2063 01:34:07,440 --> 01:34:09,280 adjustments as I mentioned based on all 2064 01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:11,040 the other obligations, responsibilities 2065 01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:13,760 we have. Hopefully in the future, 2066 01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:16,320 whether it be us and collaborating with 2067 01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:19,040 the schools, can can complete a portion 2068 01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:20,719 of that scope. I still think it's going 2069 01:34:20,719 --> 01:34:25,199 to be a wonderful uh investment for our 2070 01:34:25,199 --> 01:34:29,120 county. Um I'm very disappointed that a 2071 01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:30,719 school board member would come in here 2072 01:34:30,719 --> 01:34:33,199 and say that it's not what we want for 2073 01:34:33,199 --> 01:34:35,040 our county. 2074 01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:37,360 And I mentioned in my comments that the 2075 01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:39,760 public entrust us to make decisions 2076 01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:42,560 every day on their behalf based on the 2077 01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:44,719 information that we have at the time and 2078 01:34:44,719 --> 01:34:46,400 adjustments and scopes that we may have 2079 01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:49,440 to make. Um 2080 01:34:49,440 --> 01:34:51,360 the meetings that have been had with 2081 01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:52,960 representative from the school district 2082 01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:56,800 elected and staff and Monteth were to 2083 01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:59,199 adjust the scope and get to a budget we 2084 01:34:59,199 --> 01:35:02,800 could afford. And if my memory reflects 2085 01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:05,520 correctly, it was a vote of 7 to1 to 2086 01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:08,320 recommend $20 million funding for this 2087 01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:11,199 project to do this phase with the 2088 01:35:11,199 --> 01:35:14,320 adjusted scopes. While I respect both of 2089 01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:15,840 their 2090 01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,639 um frustrations potentially with 2091 01:35:18,639 --> 01:35:20,080 information and their internal 2092 01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:21,679 processes, I would encourage them to 2093 01:35:21,679 --> 01:35:24,880 deal with that internally. Um, but I 2094 01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:26,400 still would hope that they would be 2095 01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,639 appreciative of our investment of tax 2096 01:35:28,639 --> 01:35:30,239 dollars into this project because I 2097 01:35:30,239 --> 01:35:32,639 still think it's a great investment for 2098 01:35:32,639 --> 01:35:34,320 our teachers, our staff, and our 2099 01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:39,760 students. And um 2100 01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:41,520 that that right there is very important 2101 01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:46,480 to me. And our board functions 2102 01:35:46,480 --> 01:35:48,880 at the highest integrity we can. While 2103 01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:50,560 we disagree sometimes, we do that 2104 01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:52,480 respectfully and try to be very factual 2105 01:35:52,480 --> 01:35:54,800 in what we do 2106 01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:57,280 uh to the public. I think the public, 2107 01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:00,800 they elect us to make their lives 2108 01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:02,719 better. 2109 01:36:02,719 --> 01:36:05,120 And I don't care if you're Democrat or 2110 01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:07,840 Republican. Our goal is to raise the 2111 01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:10,080 tide because that's raising all ships. 2112 01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:13,440 Okay? And we don't ask people when they 2113 01:36:13,440 --> 01:36:14,960 call us to help us if they're Democrat 2114 01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:16,320 or Republican. we make the best 2115 01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:18,320 decisions in real time that we can based 2116 01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:20,480 on the options we have as Mr. Kubernet 2117 01:36:20,480 --> 01:36:23,199 mentioned. I understand there's internal 2118 01:36:23,199 --> 01:36:25,360 strikes and frustrations. 2119 01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:27,440 Um but they need to handle that 2120 01:36:27,440 --> 01:36:31,199 internally, but um I'm very proud of our 2121 01:36:31,199 --> 01:36:33,120 board and I'm very proud of our county 2122 01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:35,040 with the investments we make on behalf 2123 01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:38,000 of our citizens. I don't think that we 2124 01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:41,679 waste money. We uh make investments and 2125 01:36:41,679 --> 01:36:43,280 decisions on spending based on our 2126 01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:45,760 options before us every day. and we can 2127 01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:47,440 live with those and defend those in my 2128 01:36:47,440 --> 01:36:52,880 opinion. Um I will be at uh the NCAACCC 2129 01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:54,159 starting tomorrow for the rest of the 2130 01:36:54,159 --> 01:36:56,320 week representing all of you and our 2131 01:36:56,320 --> 01:37:01,360 county. And um I wanted to also 2132 01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:03,119 uh thank you for all of your comments 2133 01:37:03,119 --> 01:37:05,920 and considerations tonight. As Melissa 2134 01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:09,040 mentioned, we don't always agree, but we 2135 01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:11,119 do the best we can and we have opinions 2136 01:37:11,119 --> 01:37:14,000 and frustrations that we deal with. And 2137 01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:16,000 all of those are respected and that's 2138 01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:16,639 all I have. 2139 01:37:16,639 --> 01:37:18,550 >> You got your list for the NCAACCC? 2140 01:37:18,550 --> 01:37:18,560 » You got your list for the NCAACCC? 2141 01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:19,270 >> I got my list. 2142 01:37:19,270 --> 01:37:19,280 » I got my list. 2143 01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:20,390 >> Got your list. There's quite a few of 2144 01:37:20,390 --> 01:37:20,400 » Got your list. There's quite a few of 2145 01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:21,920 them this time. I will be brief. I'm 2146 01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:23,520 assuming it's next in my direction on 2147 01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:26,400 updates this evening. Um really the only 2148 01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:27,679 thing I wanted to bring up this evening 2149 01:37:27,679 --> 01:37:29,920 is conversations are are constantly 2150 01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:31,520 evolving in the community. But this one 2151 01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:33,520 is about Fifth Street Ministries. And I 2152 01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:35,679 was speaking with Todd Fowler. He is the 2153 01:37:35,679 --> 01:37:38,320 director of philanthropy out at Fifth 2154 01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:39,920 Street. and he said, "A lot of times 2155 01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:42,560 folks forget that it's more than just a 2156 01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:44,400 shelter and a community kitchen, but it 2157 01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:47,440 also touches lives from veterans, moms, 2158 01:37:47,440 --> 01:37:49,360 kids with the partnership with my 2159 01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:51,040 sister's house and various other things, 2160 01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:54,719 too. So, um, he's recently begun working 2161 01:37:54,719 --> 01:37:58,880 there in this role and 2162 01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:00,400 he's got an interesting background, but 2163 01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:02,159 what he also says when he talks about 2164 01:38:02,159 --> 01:38:04,560 these things is the partnerships we have 2165 01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:07,440 within the county with the nonprofits 2166 01:38:07,440 --> 01:38:09,600 coming together to be the solution to 2167 01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:11,280 take care of a lot of things that people 2168 01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:12,400 don't want to talk about. The 2169 01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:14,880 challenging situation um because it does 2170 01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:16,320 exist in all counties, but they're 2171 01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:17,920 working hard there at Fifth Street to 2172 01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:20,080 address some of these concerns. So, with 2173 01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:21,360 that, I'll just pass it on down the 2174 01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:22,880 line. 2175 01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:25,590 >> Commissioner Stra, 2176 01:38:25,590 --> 01:38:25,600 » Commissioner Stra, 2177 01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:29,990 >> you know, I have uh 2178 01:38:29,990 --> 01:38:30,000 » you know, I have uh 2179 01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:33,280 had the opportunity to do some very fun, 2180 01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:37,270 exciting, challenging 2181 01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:41,990 endeavors in my life. 2182 01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:44,800 My 21-year military career, my time as 2183 01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:50,709 the director for veteran services, 2184 01:38:50,719 --> 01:38:53,440 I think I realized 2185 01:38:53,440 --> 01:38:55,920 pretty young on even in my military 2186 01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:59,840 career was my obligation to my fellow 2187 01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:03,830 man. 2188 01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:05,920 But I will tell you for folks that that 2189 01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:08,400 sit out there, 2190 01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:11,360 um I love the folks that uh say 2191 01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:12,800 something about running for public 2192 01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:14,239 office and they'll say something to the 2193 01:39:14,239 --> 01:39:17,600 effect of they don't want me down there. 2194 01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:19,760 um 2195 01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:23,040 the decisions that have to be made. I go 2196 01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:25,600 back to the same decision Commissioner 2197 01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:28,080 Brown mentioned when we voted for the 50 2198 01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:31,040 million. I felt bad that night. I can 2199 01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:34,400 tell you I don't feel any equally better 2200 01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:37,600 tonight saying no. 2201 01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:43,030 It's a very difficult process. 2202 01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:47,350 Commissioner Neers 2203 01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:53,430 comment. Thank you. 2204 01:39:53,440 --> 01:39:57,109 I am proud. 2205 01:39:57,119 --> 01:39:58,639 Even in the decisions that are 2206 01:39:58,639 --> 01:40:02,080 uncomfortable, where we disagree, I'm 2207 01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:05,520 proud to serve beside each and every one 2208 01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:09,750 of you. 2209 01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:13,199 We all see the need the the how long 2210 01:40:13,199 --> 01:40:16,000 we've sat here and and had to uh 2211 01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:19,440 deliberate over the fire service. 2212 01:40:19,440 --> 01:40:21,119 How long we've had to deliberate over 2213 01:40:21,119 --> 01:40:24,560 schools in one year. In addition to in 2214 01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:27,600 addition to the normal operating and 2215 01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:32,159 capital we spent in one year we laid out 2216 01:40:32,159 --> 01:40:34,000 the people gave the 80 million. So I'm 2217 01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,159 not taking taking that. But 50 million 2218 01:40:36,159 --> 01:40:41,119 plus the 52 million 102 million 103 2219 01:40:41,119 --> 01:40:42,960 because it's 2220 01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:44,560 21 2221 01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:47,199 almost 2222 01:40:47,199 --> 01:40:50,159 million dollars. In addition 2223 01:40:50,159 --> 01:40:53,360 to that um 2224 01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:56,320 this this board is dedicated to 2225 01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:59,119 education. 2226 01:40:59,119 --> 01:41:01,760 In a perfect world would I love to say 2227 01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:06,709 build it all. 2228 01:41:06,719 --> 01:41:09,119 But I can tell you I've had folks call 2229 01:41:09,119 --> 01:41:10,480 me and say, "Brad, you're missing the 2230 01:41:10,480 --> 01:41:14,000 mark." But I've had equally or more call 2231 01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:17,360 me and say, "Thank you for trying to 2232 01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:19,760 hold accountable 2233 01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:23,199 my taxpayer dollars, what I was given 2234 01:41:23,199 --> 01:41:24,719 the presentation 2235 01:41:24,719 --> 01:41:26,790 >> to vote on. 2236 01:41:26,790 --> 01:41:26,800 » to vote on. 2237 01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:30,960 Thank you for for for being my voice. So 2238 01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:33,119 to those of you that I've disappointed, 2239 01:41:33,119 --> 01:41:35,520 I'm I'm sorry. 2240 01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:38,960 Um I have to go with my gut as each of 2241 01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:41,280 you make decisions in your daily lives 2242 01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:44,080 as that you make on your school board or 2243 01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:46,560 on any your church board, wherever it 2244 01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:48,239 is. Decisions sometimes are 2245 01:41:48,239 --> 01:41:49,840 uncomfortable. 2246 01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:54,629 And I have to stand with my convictions 2247 01:41:54,639 --> 01:41:59,040 regardless of sometimes of my 2248 01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:02,719 even the desire to want to go there. I 2249 01:42:02,719 --> 01:42:04,320 have to listen to the people who sent me 2250 01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:06,480 here. 2251 01:42:06,480 --> 01:42:11,040 So I thank each of you. I challenge 2252 01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:14,800 every board in this county 2253 01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:17,840 to conduct itself in the manner this 2254 01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:19,760 board does. 2255 01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:21,679 in its 2256 01:42:21,679 --> 01:42:26,709 interaction with each other. 2257 01:42:26,719 --> 01:42:27,760 » Brown, 2258 01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:30,229 >> thank you. You know, it's uh like I 2259 01:42:30,229 --> 01:42:30,239 » thank you. You know, it's uh like I 2260 01:42:30,239 --> 01:42:31,840 said, it's not easy. I'm I'm glad we're 2261 01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:34,480 getting athletics. I just in my heart I 2262 01:42:34,480 --> 01:42:36,480 couldn't vote for it. Sorry. I just 2263 01:42:36,480 --> 01:42:39,280 that's just where I have been since we 2264 01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:41,440 started this school deal. But as I was 2265 01:42:41,440 --> 01:42:45,760 telling uh Miss Neer a little bit ago, 2266 01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:47,040 if we were all the same, you wouldn't 2267 01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:49,280 need but one commissioner up here. We're 2268 01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:53,360 not. But we do agree to disagree. And 2269 01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:55,280 we'll be back here in two weeks and 2270 01:42:55,280 --> 01:42:57,440 we'll agree to disagree again. It's not 2271 01:42:57,440 --> 01:43:00,880 a problem. We don't fight much. 2272 01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:04,719 We might argue sometimes, but you know, 2273 01:43:04,719 --> 01:43:07,679 we're doing a good job and and and it is 2274 01:43:07,679 --> 01:43:10,320 what it is. I want to see things, you 2275 01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:12,880 know, I want to see our kids have what 2276 01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:15,840 they need. I'm not for Taj Mahal. I can 2277 01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:17,920 tell you this school is going to be the 2278 01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:20,000 most beautiful school. And you know, as 2279 01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:22,719 as Miss Nether and I both went South 2280 01:43:22,719 --> 01:43:24,719 Idle, graduated South a couple years 2281 01:43:24,719 --> 01:43:28,080 ago, and it uh and and you know, it was 2282 01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,880 it great school then, great school now, 2283 01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:32,560 and now we're building a we're building 2284 01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:35,199 a school that's unbelievable. As Mr. 2285 01:43:35,199 --> 01:43:36,719 Kumnick said a while ago, it's it's 2286 01:43:36,719 --> 01:43:38,880 something to be proud of. It really is. 2287 01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:41,760 But we're going to have people that say, 2288 01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:43,280 "Well, my kid wants to go there and he 2289 01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:45,280 can't go there." You know, we can never 2290 01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:47,119 please everybody. It just ain't going to 2291 01:43:47,119 --> 01:43:48,800 happen. And and you know, a lot of 2292 01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:50,639 people called me when we did the 50 and 2293 01:43:50,639 --> 01:43:52,560 they chewed my rear big time. And I 2294 01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:54,560 said, "Well, you know, I bit that one 2295 01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:56,320 and and I went home and I didn't sleep. 2296 01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:57,920 I'm going to go home tonight and you 2297 01:43:57,920 --> 01:43:59,199 know, I'm going to get chewed from 2298 01:43:59,199 --> 01:44:00,560 people say, "Why didn't you vote for 2299 01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:02,480 it?" But I'm going to sleep better 2300 01:44:02,480 --> 01:44:04,960 tonight knowing that I voted no and 2301 01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:06,560 you're still getting what you want. I 2302 01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:07,600 mean, you're getting athletes. The kids 2303 01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:09,280 are getting athletics. And I really 2304 01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:12,080 truly hope that that uh you know, we get 2305 01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:14,320 this finished with that amount of money, 2306 01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:17,360 you know, because it's going to be a bad 2307 01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:18,800 day if somebody comes back and said we 2308 01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,520 need five more million dollars. But 2309 01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:24,159 anyway, I yield back to you, sir. 2310 01:44:24,159 --> 01:44:25,830 >> Okay. The biggest thing, and I think I 2311 01:44:25,830 --> 01:44:25,840 » Okay. The biggest thing, and I think I 2312 01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:27,360 can speak on behalf of the entire board, 2313 01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:28,880 the biggest thing we have is so many 2314 01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:30,480 funding needs that we have. 2315 01:44:30,480 --> 01:44:30,950 >> Yes. 2316 01:44:30,950 --> 01:44:30,960 » Yes. 2317 01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:34,229 >> We get hit by every angle imaginable. 2318 01:44:34,229 --> 01:44:34,239 » We get hit by every angle imaginable. 2319 01:44:34,239 --> 01:44:36,000 Towns and cities don't have to provide 2320 01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:37,440 all the services that we have to 2321 01:44:37,440 --> 01:44:40,000 provide. 2322 01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:41,679 And it's hard for the five of us to sit 2323 01:44:41,679 --> 01:44:43,520 here and read an agenda item or read 2324 01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:45,760 something in an article that a town or 2325 01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:48,800 city's approved a big a big group of 2326 01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:51,040 developments or apartment complexes and 2327 01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:52,159 this and that. And we're all sitting 2328 01:44:52,159 --> 01:44:53,520 here scratching our head wondering how 2329 01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:54,800 many kids are going to be going to a 2330 01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:55,920 school. Are we going to have to do 2331 01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:57,840 another school? 2332 01:44:57,840 --> 01:44:59,760 And it's hard for us to sit here and to 2333 01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:03,360 be responsible for putting the the uh 2334 01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:05,840 coal in the train to make it go. We 2335 01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:07,040 don't know how much to get. We don't 2336 01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:09,760 know how much. We don't know anything. 2337 01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:11,840 And it's hard for us to sit here knowing 2338 01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:14,000 that we got mandated services we have to 2339 01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:15,760 provide and then we got what we call 2340 01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:18,159 optional services that we provide. And 2341 01:45:18,159 --> 01:45:20,400 we don't want to cut anything, but this 2342 01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:22,639 fire department thing and and I know I 2343 01:45:22,639 --> 01:45:24,639 waited up into the four o'clock hour. 2344 01:45:24,639 --> 01:45:27,920 It's concerning, but at the same time, 2345 01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:31,040 we have put our money where its mouth is 2346 01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:33,600 when it comes down to fire departments. 2347 01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:35,600 And I covered that at the four o'clock 2348 01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:37,840 time period that we talked about. We've 2349 01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:40,719 increased fire funding from fiscal year 2350 01:45:40,719 --> 01:45:43,360 22 to fiscal year 26 just to what the 2351 01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:44,719 departments actually get for operating 2352 01:45:44,719 --> 01:45:47,600 and everything 46 and a half%. 2353 01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:50,000 That's kind of unheard of. 2354 01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:52,960 Uh you know our problem lies is we only 2355 01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:56,000 grew our all county nine which needs to 2356 01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:57,760 be called an unincorporated nine. I 2357 01:45:57,760 --> 01:45:58,719 think we need to change that name 2358 01:45:58,719 --> 01:46:00,719 officially. If we need to have an 2359 01:46:00,719 --> 01:46:02,000 ordinance or something I think we can 2360 01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:04,239 make that happen. to get rolling. 2361 01:46:04,239 --> 01:46:06,550 >> He probably uh it only increased by 2362 01:46:06,550 --> 01:46:06,560 » He probably uh it only increased by 2363 01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:09,590 $185,585, 2364 01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:11,119 but we decided to go ahead and help out 2365 01:46:11,119 --> 01:46:12,560 the fire departments and do half of 2366 01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:15,440 their initial staffing request, do 2% 2367 01:46:15,440 --> 01:46:17,840 operational, give South Ardol Fire 2368 01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:20,560 Department a bump in their supplement, 2369 01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:21,920 and to go ahead and staff that 2370 01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:23,920 additional crew at Lake Norman Fire 2371 01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:26,560 Department, which they desperately need. 2372 01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:27,760 And it's like I said at the four 2373 01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:29,360 o'clock, everybody says, "Well, they're 2374 01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:30,400 right out there next to Morrisville." 2375 01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:31,440 But they're out there basically kind of 2376 01:46:31,440 --> 01:46:33,520 on an island by theirel. So if they get 2377 01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:34,560 in trouble with all the road 2378 01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:35,760 construction going on, with everything 2379 01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:38,880 going on. So it's been the the privy of 2380 01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:40,560 this board to make sure that we know 2381 01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:42,800 that from the goal with Blake Norman. I 2382 01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:44,480 mean, we've all discussed that for a 2383 01:46:44,480 --> 01:46:47,520 long long time. So it's just it's just 2384 01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:49,280 hard for us to sit here and to look at 2385 01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:51,040 the growth that we got experiencing. And 2386 01:46:51,040 --> 01:46:52,480 if you go out here and you poll the 2387 01:46:52,480 --> 01:46:55,040 people, you actually poll the people and 2388 01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:56,639 you ask them, "Are you happy with the 2389 01:46:56,639 --> 01:46:57,840 amount of growth you're seeing in this 2390 01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:00,870 county, 2391 01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:03,280 they're not happy, but we don't control 2392 01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:05,360 that. We only control what's out in the 2393 01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:07,840 county. I think our land use plan is is 2394 01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:10,080 very good. We just kind of revamped it 2395 01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:12,560 not long ago. you know, we had to make 2396 01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:14,560 make some tweaks from here to here to 2397 01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:16,400 there to make some changes and stuff, 2398 01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:19,040 but you know, our decisions we take 2399 01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:22,400 here, we take those decisions home and 2400 01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:25,600 we sleep on those decisions and we make 2401 01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:30,239 our decisions and we act civilized. 2402 01:47:30,239 --> 01:47:32,320 I mean, we do we act civilized in the 2403 01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:33,520 decisions we have to make. We have to 2404 01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:34,800 make some hard ones. 2405 01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:37,350 >> Some very, very hard ones because we are 2406 01:47:37,350 --> 01:47:37,360 » Some very, very hard ones because we are 2407 01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:39,600 the five up here that makes a 2408 01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:42,560 determination of how much money the tax 2409 01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:44,880 collector goes out here and takes 2410 01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:48,159 basically out of your pocket. 2411 01:47:48,159 --> 01:47:50,000 School boards don't do that. Moral 2412 01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:51,920 Graded does for their little amount of 2413 01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:54,080 money they get. And with that said, 2414 01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:55,520 since we've stepped up to the plate and 2415 01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:57,119 we've helped out Ardell Statesville 2416 01:47:57,119 --> 01:47:59,920 schools on the high school by making the 2417 01:47:59,920 --> 01:48:02,639 bridge a long time ago of amount of 2418 01:48:02,639 --> 01:48:04,320 money that we didn't want to all make, 2419 01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:07,440 but we made it. And then again today, we 2420 01:48:07,440 --> 01:48:08,960 cannot forget Morsel Graded School 2421 01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:12,000 District. So next fiscal year, we cannot 2422 01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,480 forget Morsville graded school district. 2423 01:48:14,480 --> 01:48:16,080 As soon as that bond got passed, they 2424 01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:19,040 stepped up on it and they got it done. 2425 01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:22,000 They got in it. 2426 01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:25,119 Boom. In it. So, 2427 01:48:25,119 --> 01:48:27,600 anybody got anything else? Any new 2428 01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:31,360 business? County manager report? 2429 01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:33,510 >> You don't have anything at all? 2430 01:48:33,510 --> 01:48:33,520 » You don't have anything at all? 2431 01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:36,229 >> Okay. We did have a close session this 2432 01:48:36,229 --> 01:48:36,239 » Okay. We did have a close session this 2433 01:48:36,239 --> 01:48:39,280 afternoon in regards to attorney client 2434 01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:42,400 in accordance general statute 143 31811 2435 01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:44,960 A3 with nothing to report on that. We 2436 01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:47,119 had another close session item, economic 2437 01:48:47,119 --> 01:48:48,320 development in accordance to North 2438 01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:51,600 Carolina General Statute 143 31811 A4 2439 01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:53,119 and I think we have a motion to go with 2440 01:48:53,119 --> 01:48:53,600 that one. 2441 01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:55,270 >> I do, Mr. Chairman. I'd like to make a 2442 01:48:55,270 --> 01:48:55,280 » I do, Mr. Chairman. I'd like to make a 2443 01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:57,360 motion to call for a public hearing on 2444 01:48:57,360 --> 01:48:59,360 September 15th for possible economic 2445 01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:04,629 development incentive for project lead. 2446 01:49:04,639 --> 01:49:06,320 » Motion by Commissioner Halp. All in 2447 01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:07,600 favor say I. 2448 01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:07,910 >> I. 2449 01:49:07,910 --> 01:49:07,920 » I. 2450 01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:11,109 >> Any opposed? Motion approves 50. Brings 2451 01:49:11,109 --> 01:49:11,119 » Any opposed? Motion approves 50. Brings 2452 01:49:11,119 --> 01:49:13,040 us down to the end of tonight's meeting. 2453 01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:14,480 Do we have a motion to adjurnn? 2454 01:49:14,480 --> 01:49:15,750 >> Make a motion we adjourn. 2455 01:49:15,750 --> 01:49:15,760 » Make a motion we adjourn. 2456 01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:17,590 >> Scotty was fast on that one. Motion by 2457 01:49:17,590 --> 01:49:17,600 » Scotty was fast on that one. Motion by 2458 01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:20,560 Commissioner Brown. All in favor say I. 2459 01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:20,950 >> I. 2460 01:49:20,950 --> 01:49:20,960 » I. 2461 01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:25,159 >> Any oppose? We are journ