1 00:00:00,850 --> 00:00:02,430 I'm ready 2 00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:21,060 when you are ready. Okay. Call the meeting to order. 3 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,580 I have to read those two to five. I've been at the United States of America. It's either 4 00:00:29,580 --> 00:00:36,380 the public for which it stands. One nation under God. Invisible. The reading and justice for all. 5 00:00:38,660 --> 00:00:39,200 Welcome. 6 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:50,460 So, our having a presentation from the Ervington Woods Park and O'Hare Nature Center, 7 00:00:51,480 --> 00:00:55,160 the Community Input Survey, presented by the Woods Committee. 8 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:23,440 Okay, well, the survey was put together by me and CJ with input from the Woods Committee. 9 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:31,160 and was live for, well, it's actually still alive, we are now technically up to 10 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:43,680 444 with versus, but we posted around town using and using the village email 11 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:53,200 BLAS and social media gave residents about a month to submit responses and the overall 12 00:01:53,500 --> 00:02:04,540 feedback was great appreciation for the resource of the woods, having that space available 13 00:02:04,540 --> 00:02:14,000 for various preparation, professional uses, a lot of appreciation for the programming 14 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:24,000 that exists at the Nature Center, and CJ's work, but also support for more and interesting. 15 00:02:27,020 --> 00:02:32,000 So most people, maybe not surprisingly, who responded, actually use the words. 16 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:46,520 But, so we ask people to let us know how the woods are seen as valuable to their families, 17 00:02:47,020 --> 00:02:48,520 themselves and their families. 18 00:02:49,460 --> 00:02:56,660 And as you can see from the graph is, you know, as I said for recreation, 19 00:02:56,660 --> 00:03:02,400 is a green space, an environmental ecological health village. 20 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,420 Visitors are fairly frequent. 21 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,380 I think, you know, the most several times a month. 22 00:03:31,700 --> 00:03:32,600 Add to that. 23 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,100 But we have good use. 24 00:03:34,300 --> 00:03:37,720 I mean, people really are in the woods and they are using it. 25 00:03:38,060 --> 00:03:38,180 Yeah. 26 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:39,200 There's a lot of. 27 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:50,680 The trail map is generally seen as useful, I think, that there are worsen suggestions 28 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,700 about some improvements that we will avoid. 29 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:13,030 Not surprisingly, visitors use it for hiking, for dog walking, biking, enjoying nature, 30 00:04:13,290 --> 00:04:17,650 enjoying the animals being in a green state. 31 00:04:23,150 --> 00:04:28,110 In terms of programming, this actually, could I just ask you a question? 32 00:04:28,530 --> 00:04:32,710 Did you get any use of what happens at FedRoc or did anyone admit to that? 33 00:04:33,050 --> 00:04:33,750 Oh, no, not it. 34 00:04:34,350 --> 00:04:35,070 Not it. 35 00:04:35,890 --> 00:04:36,310 No. 36 00:04:36,630 --> 00:04:40,270 There were speed back on FASH. 37 00:04:41,030 --> 00:04:43,650 People would like to see trash better. 38 00:04:49,580 --> 00:04:55,200 Not sure we have answers for that issue, specifically. 39 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,500 We have to survey it, that's not an idea. 40 00:04:57,860 --> 00:04:58,440 Yeah, right. 41 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,740 We can go out with the full everybody individually. 42 00:05:03,740 --> 00:05:09,460 But I was personally delighted to see that there's interest 43 00:05:09,460 --> 00:05:10,520 for adult programming. 44 00:05:10,780 --> 00:05:14,340 I think that the lecture series really 45 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,960 from the other additional feedback we got, 46 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,880 you know, people really appreciate the lecture series 47 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:28,180 and are interested in more, and then 48 00:05:35,990 --> 00:05:37,290 the 49 00:05:41,380 --> 00:06:02,500 responses to what people were interested in sort of ran the gamut from youth programming to birding and more, you know, how to's and someone said that there used to be a foraging program offered that years ago they wish that would come back. 50 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,680 There was a lot of enthusiasm for, 51 00:06:13,180 --> 00:06:20,860 you know, up in the corner, respondents were aware 52 00:06:20,860 --> 00:06:21,980 that we're working on the woods. 53 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,060 Some of them want to help, most of them don't. 54 00:06:27,700 --> 00:06:37,620 They're grateful, but they don't want to be out in the woods manually, but I think that 55 00:06:37,620 --> 00:06:43,900 But there's, we have a, the Woods Committee has developed a subcommittee on programming 56 00:06:43,900 --> 00:06:48,810 and we're using this to think through what to offer. 57 00:06:51,910 --> 00:07:02,400 And the feedback on what to do better, maintenance is clearly something that I think people asked 58 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:14,860 for some maintenance, the trail signs, maintenance, the trails, and then expansion of the trail 59 00:07:14,860 --> 00:07:28,270 features. I think one of the nice request was benches on the trails and one interesting 60 00:07:28,270 --> 00:07:33,490 or a couple of people asked for sidewalks along Mountain Road and Harman to make it fully 61 00:07:33,490 --> 00:07:34,690 pedestrian-friendly. 62 00:07:38,230 --> 00:07:42,730 Other things, I think, that are going to be harder, glass for outdoor bathrooms, 63 00:07:44,090 --> 00:07:44,990 more parking, 64 00:07:47,570 --> 00:07:53,080 but I think that there's some very, you know, doable right 65 00:07:57,140 --> 00:07:57,380 into. 66 00:08:05,050 --> 00:08:06,010 And then the responses 67 00:08:06,010 --> 00:08:11,510 surprised me. Maybe not so much that the email is the main way people get information, but 68 00:08:11,510 --> 00:08:23,450 But posters and flyers was still pretty high on the list, and the social media is not 69 00:08:23,450 --> 00:08:32,870 so high on the list, so you have, sorry, posters and the other account. 70 00:08:33,990 --> 00:08:40,390 But a lot of people, for the other police, specify a lot of those responses were flyers. 71 00:08:42,650 --> 00:08:49,170 which I actually didn't even know you could get to sign up for all the emails available but I didn't know about text. 72 00:08:51,810 --> 00:08:56,070 So, and then local news that dispatch in particular was missing. 73 00:08:59,990 --> 00:09:02,450 So, website, did you get probably to the similar edge storm? 74 00:09:06,110 --> 00:09:09,670 Not in my tenure of sort of being involved with the woods. 75 00:09:09,670 --> 00:09:19,670 there was a survey done in 2008 I think it's quite it was quite extensive I I turned it over to the Woods 76 00:09:19,670 --> 00:09:30,030 Kennedy Liaison from RPAC she has it it's book and it was it was before the Woods existed the 77 00:09:30,030 --> 00:09:38,390 Woods Park existed so it was really more feedback for for the record parks programs and parks. 78 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,720 I think it's a little more accessible, but it's curious, that's actually. 79 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:56,780 Well, we are in the middle of redoing the with Spark part of the website. 80 00:09:57,980 --> 00:10:00,800 To date, it really hasn't been a place for information. 81 00:10:02,860 --> 00:10:11,420 It was outdated for a long time, and we didn't have a student head built it 82 00:10:11,420 --> 00:10:22,480 built it and didn't leave access, but we do hope to, you know, incorporate maybe 83 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:32,420 a newsletter work has volunteered to write a blog, but to have it more actively 84 00:10:32,940 --> 00:10:37,680 posted with, you know, information about programs that are available. 85 00:10:42,190 --> 00:11:00,710 Some of the other recommendations, you know, there were outliers, pool, playground, ice skating, swimming, the reservoir, things like that are maybe not doable, but there are other recommendations that would require 86 00:11:00,710 --> 00:11:09,210 departmental operation systems like more trash cans, school use, 87 00:11:13,100 --> 00:11:13,960 and just more 88 00:11:16,020 --> 00:11:21,440 awareness of what's being offered so that it already works really well with 89 00:11:22,180 --> 00:11:29,500 the rec department, the email for us quite successfully, but I think that there's 90 00:11:29,500 --> 00:11:35,220 There seems, as you all are aware, there's a gap in sort of figuring out how to do 91 00:11:39,350 --> 00:11:39,830 what, 92 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:47,220 what outreach do you have and connections of the schools? 93 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,280 That's always been kind of hard for me. 94 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:56,280 So mostly, so most our strongest connection to the school district is through our after school programs. 95 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:28,200 So with direct families, the students, I'd say probably with the high school students because there's that direct connection with the honors society, volunteer hours, changing forest on Thursdays, which 8 through 12, and then the Saturday programs, like the volunteers to achieve, like that's kind of our direct line of contact with some of the guidance counselors where we'll do helper helper to verify their 96 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:34,700 volunteer hours, and that we're like a rep site. So when kids come, they're actually doing volunteer work and 97 00:12:34,700 --> 00:12:37,420 there's evidence of that. I think with the younger 98 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:42,220 families, like this was our first year running the budding and junior natal trillist, 99 00:12:42,780 --> 00:12:46,760 which was geared towards kindergarten through 5th grade, and that was all about getting 100 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:53,020 kids outside learning about ecology in a fun applied way that allowed me to work on by like 101 00:12:53,020 --> 00:12:56,820 collecting feedback of the woods to do bio indicators. So we'd be like, all right, we 102 00:12:56,820 --> 00:13:03,220 We found 10 organisms today that are animals, and 12 organisms they have plants, and then 103 00:13:03,220 --> 00:13:08,800 I-NAT, learn about a different topic each week, and so the parents are learning about 104 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,040 that, and I think there will be a ripple effect, or a feedback effect, that might go back 105 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,520 to the school districts and say, hey, like our kids are learning the supply, like bio, and 106 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:22,240 we're doing this now in, like, your grade, like, learning about the analogy, the same fish, 107 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:23,680 and we've done that withs. 108 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:27,860 So I think there might be a ripple effect because we've had that with the high school program 109 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:34,860 where it's pretty easy to get volunteers on Saturdays or for our summer internship program 110 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:41,680 for those that don't go away or don't have a paid summer program that might have some 111 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:44,320 volunteer time to put in, they'll work with us. 112 00:13:46,140 --> 00:13:50,600 So it's mostly our bread and butter over the years that's really been worked out and like 113 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:55,920 direct face-to-face contact with families and then those families talk to 114 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:02,200 another family but some of the the challenges have always been like our 115 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:07,360 caring capacity like how many students we can actually accommodate in one 116 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,780 after school program, the Saturday program is a little bit different because we 117 00:14:10,780 --> 00:14:16,760 get adults so are quite serious anyone that is 12 years and younger has to be 118 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,780 accompanied by a parent or like an adult. 119 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,860 We did meet with Mara last summer just to introduce 120 00:14:26,860 --> 00:14:33,360 ourselves and let her you know let her know that about the nature center and what CJ's programming 121 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:42,320 offers. The feedback that these sort of got which I've always noticed is they're just really busy 122 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:54,840 And it's hard for them to add anything that is sort of not already in there. 123 00:14:58,500 --> 00:14:59,980 It's very hard for them to sort of... 124 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:27,620 At a, like, a day at the nature center or a program, I think that they, it seems like they'd feel very stretched to do what they need to do. But we, I think CJ, and the Woods Committee does, it has been doing a good job with a couple of years ago. We had three scouts come forward asking for projects in the woods for their equal scout badge. 125 00:15:30,660 --> 00:15:39,400 We worked with them. I guess the green team has a team group. They reached out to us to 126 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:46,960 request coordinating a volunteer day in the woods this month. I think that that's 127 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:53,620 sort of how we best serve the community is by just being responsive directly. 128 00:15:55,860 --> 00:16:00,080 Yeah, I think it's kind of neat too because we also have for less, it's made four or five 129 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,400 years like supported different seniors or juniors that are doing their science research project 130 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:09,760 and it's quite hard to find a mentor and so like that's always been my philosophy like being 131 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:14,020 a forward to the students where it's like they have this great outdoor classroom and we have 132 00:16:14,020 --> 00:16:18,800 these continuing products going on like today we just did our third year of the Do Your Vegetation 133 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:23,560 Survey and so the students were involved in that so that's a continuing project that's someone 134 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:30,060 maybe next year for a science research project like hey I've got four years in the 135 00:16:30,060 --> 00:16:31,600 of data collection under your vegetation, 136 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,220 lined with what's going on with your management, 137 00:16:34,500 --> 00:16:36,140 that could be something that someone takes on 138 00:16:36,140 --> 00:16:36,820 as a data source. 139 00:16:37,620 --> 00:16:40,940 So I think that's the cool niche of what we do. 140 00:16:41,220 --> 00:16:42,600 It's things are kind of open-ended 141 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:47,200 and they're dynamic in that someone could take a piece 142 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:48,460 and take it to another level. 143 00:16:48,900 --> 00:16:51,780 Or we have a really defined box, 144 00:16:51,780 --> 00:16:53,980 which I feel like it's helpful for the school district 145 00:16:53,980 --> 00:16:56,940 where we have like CJ or Zoe, 146 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:02,720 another WITS committee member could be a science mentor for high school student. 147 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:08,940 You have the Saturday program, so for guides, counselors are pulling their air out because 148 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,620 their students don't have enough hours for the honors side. 149 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:18,620 It's like, hey, email WITS committee or email CJ or Zoe and then figure out when the Saturday 150 00:17:18,620 --> 00:17:19,940 of volunteers are. 151 00:17:19,940 --> 00:17:26,820 And I think emails for me, it's pretty low tech, but it has this really big reaching 152 00:17:26,820 --> 00:17:32,800 effect where I can directly target families and students and let them know like a week 153 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:37,860 after this is what's going on because it's somewhat open-ended where it's like if someone 154 00:17:37,860 --> 00:17:41,820 has a conflict that Saturday, it's no big deal, it's not the end of the world, it's not 155 00:17:41,820 --> 00:17:47,180 like a paid program where people have a little bit more anxiety about like I signed up 156 00:17:47,180 --> 00:17:49,580 for this eight program, I pay this money, 157 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,360 and I wanna make sure that I get it 158 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:55,100 versus the Saturdays, I think, with how busy families, 159 00:17:55,260 --> 00:17:56,800 especially high school and middle school students are. 160 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,680 I think that's a good resource 161 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,040 that we've been able to provide to the community for. 162 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,740 I know it's been put six or seven years now. 163 00:18:09,450 --> 00:18:10,130 Does that make sense? 164 00:18:10,530 --> 00:18:10,650 Yeah. 165 00:18:11,350 --> 00:18:15,010 Do we have email address with survey respondents 166 00:18:15,010 --> 00:18:15,910 or is it anonymous? 167 00:18:15,910 --> 00:18:28,450 It was voluntary to provide it to some people did, and we've between the survey, the lecture 168 00:18:28,450 --> 00:18:35,850 series, and then through all the programs that we run, we have a few hundred people 169 00:18:37,770 --> 00:18:41,010 who specifically have asked it. 170 00:18:42,610 --> 00:18:46,290 I think it's noteworthy that you say you had 400 in some. 171 00:18:49,730 --> 00:18:58,250 I would assume that's one per household, get households and three or four respondents. 172 00:18:59,150 --> 00:19:05,610 So if you're looking at a percentage of the community that's involved, 400 out of the 173 00:19:05,610 --> 00:19:07,350 mental number of households, which weighs 174 00:19:11,190 --> 00:19:15,270 about 25% on all 175 00:19:18,410 --> 00:19:19,830 the programs that the directive 176 00:19:19,830 --> 00:19:20,330 department does. 177 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:32,460 So I'd say that's that's huge and the fact that if you've got an email 178 00:19:32,460 --> 00:19:32,960 list that 179 00:19:35,420 --> 00:19:42,750 you can have that direct contact and it was brought up originally it never seems 180 00:19:42,750 --> 00:19:46,990 like to put it in newspaper or you publish it out and 181 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,400 say they know. And that's there's 182 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,060 too much information. 183 00:19:57,550 --> 00:20:00,630 Having that list now you have a direct target of 184 00:20:04,210 --> 00:20:07,340 concern in this huge. 185 00:20:07,340 --> 00:20:19,420 I think my hope is when we have a chance to fully make our part of the website what we 186 00:20:19,420 --> 00:20:24,820 can, you know, I was surprised there were people who responded that they had no idea 187 00:20:24,820 --> 00:20:25,640 there was a nature center. 188 00:20:26,220 --> 00:20:29,940 There was actually someone who responded that they lived in Irvington and had no idea there 189 00:20:29,940 --> 00:20:39,740 was, so, you know, I think that there's, you know, opportunity to widen that but I think 190 00:20:39,740 --> 00:20:48,560 we have a very solidly of 16 interns this summer. 191 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:51,980 That's a word of mouse. 192 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:58,710 They're finding us and coming and building a new nursery. 193 00:21:00,900 --> 00:21:03,520 Today helping us with the vegetation surveys. 194 00:21:04,900 --> 00:21:07,600 I don't 195 00:21:11,730 --> 00:21:16,170 know if the USDA grant was if that PDF was shared. 196 00:21:16,170 --> 00:21:24,710 But, you know, like this from January through May of the end of May, so with that grant, 197 00:21:25,290 --> 00:21:29,150 the federal government will pay for our trees, but they don't pay for the planting. 198 00:21:29,410 --> 00:21:35,270 So that all that comes through the volunteer capacity on Aaron and that's kind of the cool bread and butter 199 00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:39,910 is that all of these students and families get to be a part of an active federal forestry grant 200 00:21:39,910 --> 00:21:43,710 and who has an active federal forestry grant at this time about the many people. 201 00:21:43,710 --> 00:21:46,710 And so the students are directly into resume building, 202 00:21:47,090 --> 00:21:49,030 and the little ones just get to plant trees 203 00:21:49,030 --> 00:21:53,690 and learn how to do that and see the restoration happen 204 00:21:53,690 --> 00:21:54,430 when they graduate. 205 00:21:54,650 --> 00:21:55,950 And I think that's been a big thing. 206 00:21:56,650 --> 00:21:58,350 Like now, with changing forests, 207 00:21:59,070 --> 00:22:01,170 we're going to be almost on the 3rd to 4th cohort 208 00:22:03,630 --> 00:22:04,570 high school students. 209 00:22:04,830 --> 00:22:06,810 And so some of their... 210 00:22:06,810 --> 00:22:14,950 In my experience, not having this data now through Zoe's work, 211 00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:19,370 we have this data set to then say like, you're like a lot of work you do where you might have a 212 00:22:19,370 --> 00:22:24,130 feeling and a read on the community and what's going on but then you you survey and you pull and it's 213 00:22:24,130 --> 00:22:28,530 like, okay, like maybe I was on point here with this feeling and another thing is like, oh I actually 214 00:22:29,010 --> 00:22:36,710 wasn't that like I should get more in tune with that but I feel like with the adult programming 215 00:22:36,710 --> 00:22:41,170 that was an interesting thing because with the Living Forest series that grant we got through 216 00:22:41,170 --> 00:22:49,270 Mary Jane Shimsky, $15,000 to bring in educators around natural resource management and 217 00:22:49,270 --> 00:22:57,770 ecology, those were big feedback points that in the survey that Zoe put together were 218 00:22:57,770 --> 00:23:03,230 telling because I thought, I thought we were maybe going to have higher feedback for early 219 00:23:03,230 --> 00:23:08,590 childhood or elementary program, but it was really the adult programming that had the highest 220 00:23:08,590 --> 00:23:09,150 back. 221 00:23:11,570 --> 00:23:19,730 Did you want to talk about the dark sky telescope then? Oh sure so. That wasn't 222 00:23:19,730 --> 00:23:27,390 part of it, but I thought that had a like waiting list for a good use of it. A community member 223 00:23:27,390 --> 00:23:36,330 came forward and asked us to host a dark sky event and so she organized it. It came together 224 00:23:36,330 --> 00:23:42,690 They're really nicely, I think we had five or six telescopes and people brought dinner 225 00:23:42,690 --> 00:23:50,050 and blankets and chairs and someone volunteered to narrate 226 00:23:52,610 --> 00:23:55,610 what we were seeing and unfortunately 227 00:23:55,610 --> 00:24:02,770 due to the limitations of the parking lot, we had just as many, we had to cap the attendance 228 00:24:03,210 --> 00:24:07,890 to 30 and we had just as many people on the wait list. 229 00:24:07,890 --> 00:24:22,030 So there's that's an event that we would like to do again to try to figure out how to be more inclusive to expand that but it was I was really actually very nice. 230 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:38,120 So from, oh, so probably close to 2000 last two to three years, but from, I can quantify 231 00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:47,200 directly from January through May for the USDA grant, we did 1,155 trees, so those 232 00:24:48,100 --> 00:24:58,120 somewhere around 200, we're two-inch calipertries of three to 400 pound trees that are most 233 00:24:58,120 --> 00:24:58,560 of fruiting. 234 00:24:58,900 --> 00:25:04,280 So we plant them and they break dormancy, they're going to be producing like our tillamericana, 235 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:09,800 the fastwood, has berries, so it's already feeding birds, it's pollinating, flowering. 236 00:25:10,820 --> 00:25:13,860 So they're at reproductive stage, which is pretty cool. 237 00:25:13,860 --> 00:25:19,240 And so part of the work we're doing with families and students is learning how like we are 238 00:25:19,860 --> 00:25:23,980 treating this community for us and how we're stewards and we're ecologists. We understand that. 239 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:29,560 You know, if you plan the maturetry it might come to freaking earlier and might have these benefits 240 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:34,580 similar to what our speaker series looked at. Like what Doug Talami presented so well, 241 00:25:34,580 --> 00:25:38,740 which is the really big picture like you plant an oak that oak brings in these caterpillars, 242 00:25:38,740 --> 00:25:43,520 those caterpillars then bring in spurts and there's a co-mechanalism between species 243 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:48,080 and from plants to insects and animals. 244 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:54,540 And so that's been, that is like this hidden educational piece 245 00:25:54,540 --> 00:25:59,040 where it's not a paid learning program per se, 246 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,260 but families and students are coming, 247 00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:03,720 and they're learning about a bunch of tree 248 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,360 while we're putting this tree in this area, 249 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,080 like how that relates to the pH. 250 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,080 There is a commutualism between this tree, 251 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,540 And then three years later, we might be seeing these caterpillars, and we see these caterpillars. 252 00:26:15,620 --> 00:26:18,040 We might see these varieties or these species of birds. 253 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:28,220 And looking at also, we have challenges with sleep disease, so you have mortality of species 254 00:26:28,220 --> 00:26:30,380 that we're losing in the woods, so we're talking about that. 255 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:40,340 And it's a great way for both of us that's always been our feedback loop with the community, 256 00:26:40,340 --> 00:26:43,940 which is while planting a tree, understanding kind of what their interests are, 257 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:49,380 like how we can tailor things differently, and now we have this quantifiable PDF, 258 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,360 this document that. That's like, okay, this is what we did this year, 259 00:26:53,460 --> 00:27:00,240 and maybe three or four years later, we do another poll, and we can see how ideas and interest change. 260 00:27:00,540 --> 00:27:03,500 And I think that that's been really interesting, because we do that a lot in the forest. 261 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,040 We have a lot of these long-term ecological research. 262 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:11,100 There's a lot of some are affiliated with universities like Herbert Forest, we've got 263 00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:16,860 some deer transects with Cornell, and so what we want to do is make decisions based on 264 00:27:16,860 --> 00:27:17,980 feedback from the forest. 265 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:23,800 So we may have ideas of what's going on, but based on how fast trees are growing, lack of 266 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:30,820 regeneration, CH, prior land use, area that was clear cut, it's going to potentially have 267 00:27:30,820 --> 00:27:35,560 a lot more in bases, what types of in bases are those, and because we can only do so much 268 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:41,920 with the limited staff, that allows us to then quantify where we can put our time and energy 269 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:49,060 and volunteer power or educational resources into prioritizing these objectives that we have, 270 00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:54,660 that we think about with the Woods Committee, that we then project to the Reckham Parks, 271 00:27:54,700 --> 00:28:02,980 that then get projected out to you all as trustees, kind of this like this cyclical system of like 272 00:28:02,980 --> 00:28:08,460 thinking about what's going on, but having that feedback from both the forest, and then 273 00:28:08,460 --> 00:28:12,980 from the community to then say, okay, like, in the last two years, these are the interests 274 00:28:12,980 --> 00:28:19,760 from the community, these are the feedback things we're getting from woods, these are the 275 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,920 feedbacks we're getting from the grant, and then to say, like, holistically, what can 276 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:31,620 we do within our pie chart for time and for money, and then come up with these plans 277 00:28:31,620 --> 00:28:32,680 Which 278 00:28:40,450 --> 00:28:41,050 say that 279 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,860 this is a sort of scientific and esoteric discussion we've just been. 280 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,260 That said, you know, five years ago, or whenever Michael Marios did the survey, 281 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:05,130 the other story completely gone and no trees being planted just in three years. 282 00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:13,410 A visual walks through the woods now, here to three years ago, in certain areas, it's really transformed. 283 00:29:13,410 --> 00:29:23,770 I'm sure that it could be as much has been done visually in these last three years that has been done. 284 00:29:24,890 --> 00:29:31,130 You know, and when that original survey was being done, Michael was talking about, you know, 285 00:29:31,330 --> 00:29:34,290 we've got to do 20,000 trees to get anywhere here. 286 00:29:35,090 --> 00:29:37,350 It's going to take 10 years, et cetera. 287 00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:47,980 We are a bit longer away now, and it's obvious visually, and we have stayed at one of the 288 00:29:47,980 --> 00:29:48,260 reasons. 289 00:29:48,660 --> 00:29:58,180 So, obviously, it's all these pieces of volunteers of knowing what to wear and when and 290 00:29:58,180 --> 00:29:59,880 getting those grants to come in. 291 00:30:09,450 --> 00:30:26,930 So, is the main takeaway from the survey? Like you were just saying, like, it's taken conjunction with brand. So, that's family. You know, as wondering, like, if there are specific actions or specific things that you take from us there, like, okay, we have those 292 00:30:29,140 --> 00:30:30,900 conclusions that you drew from it. 293 00:30:33,020 --> 00:30:34,980 Um, I think there's. 294 00:30:34,980 --> 00:30:41,420 maintenance that needs to be done. That was direct feedback that is needed for the trails, 295 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:49,600 I think, and then the Woods Committee is going to work with CJ to try to plan out more programs, 296 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,500 figure out how we can have that. 297 00:30:58,300 --> 00:31:01,740 Do you have any thoughts about registration? Or is it still planning to? 298 00:31:01,740 --> 00:31:10,560 Still planning, we've had the core grant has taken up a great deal of our time so far this summer. 299 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:21,980 But the subcommittee for programming has met and I think we've actually come up with a great framework for what we could do. 300 00:31:21,980 --> 00:31:30,800 we just have to put some time into finding the programs to offer, finding the lectures, 301 00:31:31,060 --> 00:31:40,440 finding the people who are willing to do a guided walker. And the good thing to do with the living 302 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,740 forest series, that's a PDF now, that's like a template, kind of just like with this, 303 00:31:45,260 --> 00:31:51,120 when we do the living forest series 2.0, we're not going to reinvent it again like we did last year, 304 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:58,460 We've got this template similar to the survey, like if we do another survey poll, we want to make sure that our questions are similar to those questions we asked them three years ago. 305 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,040 So they're comparable. 306 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:08,540 And I think it's, it's fun because then you start standing out not on a like wet soil, but you're on like more solid ground and you have 307 00:32:08,540 --> 00:32:13,280 of convincing, like, this is kind of, we're looking at, kind of, 308 00:32:15,660 --> 00:32:17,220 I think it's exciting. 309 00:32:17,460 --> 00:32:19,900 I'm sure you all know because you're being pulled in all these different directions. 310 00:32:20,460 --> 00:32:24,260 So it's nice, like, when you're still getting pulled out of different directions 311 00:32:24,260 --> 00:32:26,620 but you now have some quantifiable feedback. 312 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,820 That's not just in your mind from what you're seeing, but it's from other people around you. 313 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:36,300 And you're like, you know what, like, even though it might not be the feedback that you want, 314 00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:43,260 It's at least you can stand solid on that to then think about that with other colleagues 315 00:32:43,260 --> 00:32:48,680 and was committed to then figure out these plans. 316 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:56,420 Yeah, but the responses we got, I don't think we felt comfortable that we can move forward 317 00:32:56,420 --> 00:33:01,280 and feel like we're responding to a decent population of the community, not just. 318 00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:03,060 Thank 319 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:06,860 you. 320 00:33:39,620 --> 00:33:44,600 So now that we've had all the departments present that 321 00:33:47,860 --> 00:33:49,660 we should just kind of discuss 322 00:33:49,660 --> 00:33:56,680 where everyone's at, which projects we want to approve and the funding. 323 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:03,580 So I'll just go through a few of the changes that were made from the last time we discussed 324 00:34:03,580 --> 00:34:11,580 us the draft of the capital budget, the fire department air compressor got increased 325 00:34:11,580 --> 00:34:20,160 from 60,000 to 65,000 based on the quote that the fire department got. 326 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:31,780 We removed the senior center transfer switch 27, 28 projects after the discussions from the 327 00:34:31,780 --> 00:34:36,780 meeting with the fire department, we added the decontamination room. 328 00:34:38,990 --> 00:34:40,050 The West 329 00:34:40,050 --> 00:34:47,570 sunny-side covert project borrowing was moved from 2627 to 2728 based on where 330 00:34:47,570 --> 00:34:55,330 the stage we are currently for that project and then the way that this is 331 00:34:55,330 --> 00:35:01,910 currently laid out it's showing the usage of about 1.3 million of fund 332 00:35:01,910 --> 00:35:07,130 balance, typically in the past we've aimed to keep the unassigned fund balance around 333 00:35:07,130 --> 00:35:13,850 the range of 7 million, so at this point in time, although we're awaiting the final audited 334 00:35:13,850 --> 00:35:18,770 numbers, estimated to be at about 9.2 million. 335 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:33,400 The 9.2 is before the 1.3 is used, and then we also, about 7.7, because then we also 336 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:41,500 author as the $35,000 or the, um, that is still the, yeah, the strategy contract. Um, and 337 00:35:41,500 --> 00:35:48,560 then we still need to fund the, the charger projects. Um, so that'll be about $110,000. 338 00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:51,840 So after all those will be around the range of seven point. 339 00:36:01,490 --> 00:36:06,170 So the quote that, um, they got, was for 340 00:36:06,170 --> 00:36:17,250 for 782,000. So we rounded that up to 785,000. In the previously last year, we approved 341 00:36:17,250 --> 00:36:23,230 the building safety projects for the fire department. So in that number, there was the 342 00:36:23,230 --> 00:36:32,090 20,000 for the apparatus bay, the 140,000 for the state contamination room, and then 50,000 343 00:36:32,090 --> 00:36:33,750 for the elevator engineering. 344 00:36:34,670 --> 00:36:37,450 So I backed those out to be used 345 00:36:37,450 --> 00:36:41,690 towards this decontamination room project. 346 00:36:43,050 --> 00:36:46,330 And then there was also for many years ago 347 00:36:46,650 --> 00:36:49,210 a window project for the firehouse, 348 00:36:49,410 --> 00:36:52,090 which I spoke to Bonn Council about, 349 00:36:52,290 --> 00:36:54,330 and we can actually use those bar of funds 350 00:36:54,670 --> 00:36:57,030 towards this project as well. 351 00:36:57,630 --> 00:37:01,250 So that lowers the amount of fund gallons 352 00:37:01,250 --> 00:37:09,530 that we need to be in for a new, fun, balance about 405 steps and then just be clear 353 00:37:09,530 --> 00:37:11,410 in this decadentation room that 354 00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:19,470 if the building could do anything, we're not going to 355 00:37:20,910 --> 00:37:24,530 support it down, basically we lose all. 356 00:37:26,550 --> 00:37:27,750 It's hard to answer. 357 00:37:27,990 --> 00:37:33,970 I mean could we build a building around an existing decontamination room, if we could put 358 00:37:33,970 --> 00:37:48,910 Yes, we could and might introduce problems in terms of design efficiency could it be done. Yes, but that's kind of always been a reality to face. 359 00:37:49,050 --> 00:37:50,790 I know that I'm just clarifying it. 360 00:37:51,350 --> 00:37:53,130 Yeah, all know what we're doing here. 361 00:37:54,990 --> 00:37:58,090 I mean, should we, okay, I guess I have a couple of questions. 362 00:37:59,230 --> 00:38:03,270 What are we, because I know the last thing, we talked a little bit about the police patrol vehicle. 363 00:38:03,690 --> 00:38:06,110 And is that one that's like on a regular schedule? 364 00:38:06,370 --> 00:38:07,870 Do we know what the 365 00:38:09,630 --> 00:38:10,750 I might like to 366 00:38:11,930 --> 00:38:16,710 So he did that one was based on need 367 00:38:17,830 --> 00:38:23,030 and mileage and I think the state of the vehicle he said that it was 368 00:38:23,030 --> 00:38:27,090 It had needed a lot of repairs and maintenance. 369 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,460 I think he mentioned in his presentation 370 00:38:31,460 --> 00:38:33,260 to what the Myelif was, 371 00:38:36,140 --> 00:38:40,580 45,000 miles, but also you have to account runtime 372 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:42,820 to that factors. 373 00:38:45,810 --> 00:38:48,090 I mean, I think that's a bigger project, Ross. 374 00:38:48,570 --> 00:38:51,290 I think overall, he doesn't talk about it again every year. 375 00:38:51,730 --> 00:38:56,850 The cars, the vehicles, and I think we need to look 376 00:38:56,850 --> 00:39:01,710 overall the number of vehicles that we have, I mean, I think that's the kind of 377 00:39:01,710 --> 00:39:02,950 a project for them. 378 00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:05,570 Is there a flashback like financial 379 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:08,960 analysis? 380 00:39:09,820 --> 00:39:16,420 Did they determine what the impact of 50 more residents would be on the police 381 00:39:16,420 --> 00:39:16,740 perfect? 382 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:24,880 And how many policemen they needed, and it was like, we don't own six or something like that, 383 00:39:25,180 --> 00:39:25,960 extra policemen. 384 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:37,190 And then they said the standard for the community of the size two point. 385 00:39:38,990 --> 00:39:41,770 Well, that's because we have four. 386 00:39:42,150 --> 00:39:43,170 Yeah, but you mean cars? 387 00:39:43,610 --> 00:39:43,810 No. 388 00:39:44,150 --> 00:39:45,590 The police officers. 389 00:39:46,210 --> 00:39:47,310 Officers for. 390 00:39:48,630 --> 00:39:51,150 Yeah, I mean, the problem that we have is we're small community. 391 00:39:51,250 --> 00:39:53,850 So you have a minimum staffing. 392 00:39:54,310 --> 00:39:57,330 So it's so that these numbers are based on what? 393 00:39:57,790 --> 00:40:04,190 It doesn't matter data, because if you have a, you have certain staffing, you have to 394 00:40:04,190 --> 00:40:04,690 staff it. 395 00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:09,130 So, whether you have, we kind of have almost similar to dots theory and they have doubled 396 00:40:09,130 --> 00:40:13,350 the number of residents, but it has to do, this is a problem of being a small community 397 00:40:13,350 --> 00:40:18,450 and having a police department, you have to staff it properly, you can't, you can't really 398 00:40:18,450 --> 00:40:19,110 get around that. 399 00:40:19,110 --> 00:40:21,390 But I have a different question also. 400 00:40:22,010 --> 00:40:28,050 What about the ADA, the lift for this building? 401 00:40:29,810 --> 00:40:31,030 That's what I was going to say. 402 00:40:32,590 --> 00:40:33,890 That's what I was going to suggest. 403 00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:44,590 And the police vehicle that we also have coming from 47,000 of that from fund balance. 404 00:40:44,590 --> 00:40:52,350 and then the remaining $40,000 was from an old capital project for many years ago for 405 00:40:52,350 --> 00:40:57,490 a transportation ban for the recreation department that was no longer needed. 406 00:40:58,070 --> 00:41:00,610 Those funds can be used towards this. 407 00:41:01,070 --> 00:41:07,690 Actually found the project description that the police chief submitted on the current state 408 00:41:07,690 --> 00:41:09,590 of the vehicle. 409 00:41:09,590 --> 00:41:38,390 So, he said the new vehicle would replace patrol vehicle, which is a 2022 Ford SUV with 37,000 miles, an engine idle hours of 1,300, which equates to approximately 75,000 miles a vehicle, an engine where this vehicle has a useful and safe life expectancy of approximately one more year. 410 00:41:38,990 --> 00:41:42,090 replacement vehicles can take up to one year from the time they are 411 00:41:42,090 --> 00:41:47,190 budgeted for to receiving the vehicle and outfitting it for service. There is a 412 00:41:47,190 --> 00:41:53,490 need for a 4x4 PPV vehicles in the plea as evidence by the winter weather 413 00:41:53,490 --> 00:41:58,670 conditions this past year. We have routinely utilized vehicles in the past and most 414 00:41:58,670 --> 00:42:01,030 police departments in the area also current. 415 00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:10,140 I don't have other questions but I do 416 00:42:10,140 --> 00:42:18,800 I do think we need a vehicle review, an overall vehicle because it's starting point for the new project correct. Yeah. 417 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:19,300 Yeah. 418 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,420 I think it's the one double check. I think this is right, but I know for the library, we've talked about two different things like systems. 419 00:42:25,420 --> 00:42:28,280 And I think this is the number for the pump one. 420 00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:32,220 Is there a placement? It's not the replacement in kind. 421 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:33,720 Right. Your placement. 422 00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:34,440 There's 423 00:42:38,310 --> 00:42:41,170 a lot of fire trucks being purchased, like one year after the end, 424 00:42:49,260 --> 00:42:49,980 there's a lot all at once. 425 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,060 I just wonder what it's looking for. 426 00:42:54,710 --> 00:43:12,510 So as far as the debt for the fire trucks typically, there's, I can't at least like a three year time period between when they start the process and actually like getting the finished product and funding it. 427 00:43:14,050 --> 00:43:15,590 So like when we take out the bond, 428 00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:24,890 Yeah, so we just approved the rescue, we haven't taken borrowed for that yet, but 429 00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:32,350 you estimated a longer time. 430 00:43:33,490 --> 00:43:44,710 Right, I estimated the borrowing at this point three years from now, so we won't be borrowing that money, but since the contract was approved, we need the bond resolution. 431 00:43:44,710 --> 00:43:50,410 Yeah, no, I remember I was just noting like I was looking at like how much of the dentist got really 432 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,100 short of time at like 433 00:43:54,100 --> 00:43:59,220 A lot of a free view 434 00:43:59,220 --> 00:43:59,980 I was just 435 00:43:59,980 --> 00:44:03,820 It was like please please vehicles ladder like the water is 436 00:44:03,820 --> 00:44:09,900 I mean the fire key said 437 00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:12,660 But that's probably even like a very low 438 00:44:13,380 --> 00:44:15,260 Estimate the two point five 439 00:44:15,260 --> 00:44:17,240 We're in trouble. We don't use that. 440 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,960 That has been suggested. 441 00:44:34,930 --> 00:44:36,690 It has occurred to me as well. 442 00:44:37,810 --> 00:44:42,310 I mean, the latter 36 were not approving it now. 443 00:44:42,630 --> 00:44:43,710 It's for entry year. 444 00:44:43,890 --> 00:44:47,670 So it's kind of just like a placeholder at this point. 445 00:44:48,330 --> 00:44:51,290 But it's also the kind of time we talk about these things. 446 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,260 So if you don't talk about it now, it doesn't happen. 447 00:44:56,260 --> 00:44:57,600 but it does happen. 448 00:44:57,780 --> 00:44:59,920 No, but I just think we have a vehicle. 449 00:45:00,580 --> 00:45:29,980 We should do. I think if you add them all up together, we need a different policy. We keep talking about that and timing and whatever, but maybe some of these things. We can't help the timing. It's a long time. But when we have some control for it. What are the next steps? So ideally, if we approve the capital budget at the 450 00:45:29,980 --> 00:45:32,220 next board meeting at the end of August, 451 00:45:33,240 --> 00:45:36,620 then I would have to give the projects 452 00:45:36,620 --> 00:45:38,500 that we want to borrow for to bond accounts, 453 00:45:38,740 --> 00:45:42,400 so we'll then come up with the bonding resolutions, 454 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,980 and then those get posted 30 days. 455 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,140 And I'm sorry, I'm not looking at you strange, 456 00:45:50,140 --> 00:45:52,880 it popped up, it said hand-brace behind your head. 457 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:53,760 Sorry. 458 00:45:54,140 --> 00:45:55,260 I'm just looking at me saying, 459 00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:57,020 I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, 460 00:45:57,020 --> 00:45:59,960 I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, 461 00:45:59,960 --> 00:46:03,700 Yeah, I wasn't glaring at you. I was like, what is that behind your head? 462 00:46:03,980 --> 00:46:24,520 So typically we borrow in November. So ideally, the goal would be to have the approved capital budget at the end of August, so that we could then have the bond resolutions approved, which need to be posted publicly for 30 days. 463 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,440 It's, um, or we can forward with that. 464 00:46:29,500 --> 00:46:31,400 And then when will you have sort of like the, 465 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,200 what the service looks like? 466 00:46:33,660 --> 00:46:36,620 I have that now. 467 00:46:37,300 --> 00:46:40,220 So you have it with the borrowings that are proposed. 468 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:41,000 Yes. 469 00:46:47,020 --> 00:46:47,880 One is. 470 00:46:48,340 --> 00:46:48,960 So. 471 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:14,940 So with the, if you look at the last column on this schedule here with, um, 472 00:47:14,940 --> 00:47:24,800 with these new borrowings, assuming a 3.7% borrowing rate, which obviously can change. 473 00:47:25,300 --> 00:47:40,940 Once we go out to borrow, it would increase the 2728 debt service payments by about $282,250 over the 2627 payments. 474 00:47:40,940 --> 00:47:52,440 And just to put that in perspective, the amount we were able to raise taxes to say within the tax cap this year was about 750,000. 475 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,920 So that does take up a big chunk of that. 476 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,580 Is the total test service right now? 477 00:47:59,620 --> 00:48:00,240 The total. 478 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,020 So this year, so 479 00:48:14,490 --> 00:48:21,910 in 2627, between interest and principal, we're paying down about 1.78 million. 480 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:34,140 This would add on 3.47 million. 481 00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:46,720 This largely made up the library project. 482 00:48:53,690 --> 00:48:54,610 Grants of the culverts. 483 00:48:55,330 --> 00:48:57,010 Like that actually might happen or they all. 484 00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:10,300 like the downing wood Broadway culvert, the borrowing would be $983,000, but that's after 485 00:49:10,300 --> 00:49:15,400 the $1.4 million grant that we already received. 486 00:49:16,140 --> 00:49:20,040 Again, I don't know what grant that maybe evaporated. 487 00:49:20,620 --> 00:49:23,880 I think I just was reading the news that my, that was in the courts that it might 488 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,980 actually not be allowed to be held back. 489 00:49:25,980 --> 00:49:44,840 I'm sure there was building resiliency grant was terminated within the administration and my understanding is it has come back. I don't know that it would unfortunately literally just decided about that. I don't know about something happening recently, but I heard the news about this. 490 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:49,360 I want to say, in the spring and the late winter spring. 491 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:54,860 There was something this week that actually looks like it might not be able to hold that 492 00:49:54,860 --> 00:49:55,100 grant. 493 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:57,840 Right. 494 00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:02,500 Well, you hear something about it. 495 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,060 Do we have any conflict? 496 00:50:13,980 --> 00:50:23,040 I mean, other than fun balance, you mean, within the current budget, no, and it looks 497 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:25,740 It's going to go over 498 00:50:28,110 --> 00:50:30,410 400,000. 499 00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:32,470 I mean, could you have figured it out? 500 00:50:33,550 --> 00:50:34,230 Closer. 501 00:50:39,380 --> 00:50:40,560 That's only the proof. 502 00:50:41,300 --> 00:50:41,980 Yes. 503 00:50:42,260 --> 00:50:46,240 The Haramon Road project was approved last half of all budget. 504 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:47,460 Over budget. 505 00:50:51,340 --> 00:50:52,440 The change order. 506 00:50:52,660 --> 00:50:52,940 The change order. 507 00:50:54,380 --> 00:50:54,640 Yes. 508 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:55,440 Along the. 509 00:50:55,980 --> 00:50:57,200 We're expecting. 510 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:00,240 Here. 511 00:51:01,620 --> 00:51:02,640 Potentially that. 512 00:51:14,140 --> 00:51:14,720 And that would 513 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:31,620 end up coming from fund balance, and that could be, or any from each of them. 514 00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:37,020 I think downing what it's definitely too soon to tell because they haven't even started. 515 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,600 I think that the reports are still being approved. 516 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:50,310 but stay in recently back with the co-on and the impacted parts but it's still 517 00:51:50,310 --> 00:51:53,050 prettier. I see the floor there. 518 00:52:03,670 --> 00:52:06,690 Okay. Thank you. Thank you. 519 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,240 I think we're going to join. 520 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,780 We're going to join the motion. 521 00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:19,710 Motion to adjourn. 522 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:22,860 All in favor? 523 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:23,460 Aye.