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Okay, I think we're back. I think we had a technical difficulty and we're back. And we've said the pledge allegiance and we're all here. Honestly, we are. And so I think what we're going to do is we'll move to public comment first. And then, and then we'll talk about the items for discussion. I know that I already called the roll.

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we called the role okay and and then as if there's a burning desire as we go

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through this budget from the public that all they got to do is raise their hand

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and we'll we'll call them back up I won't call for public comment between each tab

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but if there is somebody in the audience that wants to speak about a particular

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tab or something just raise your hand because there's not that many people in the

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audience tonight and John's raising her which which tab do you want I just for the

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benefit.

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The clerk, when they come back up, are they still going to have the same three-minute, three-minute, five-minute timeline?

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I think so.

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It's not a workshop. It is a hearing, but at the same time, if somebody has a particular burning desire on a particular area, I think it's important to hear from them.

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We don't have to be out of here till 10 Sharon said so maybe not, whatever. Okay, so

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Public comment. We'll call for public comment now. Is there anybody signed up, Marty?

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No, sir.

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There's no one is there anyone who would like to talk on public comment. Here comes chief Aval. Chief Aval?

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I did not fill out a form. Just a quick reminder. Tomorrow is

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is 9, 11, 25th anniversary, Station 20, 8, 1, 8, 5, 0, starting sharply at 0, 8, 30 will be

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doing a remembered ceremony. Everyone is obviously welcome to attend and encouraged and hopefully

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I'll see you there. Thank you.

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Thank you very much, Terry. The answer. That's very important. We should never forget.

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I'm sorry.

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eight thirty at firehouse there at eight one mark or eight one point three. Okay, so is

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anyone online it would like to speak? I will check again but I do not believe so.

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No, no, okay.

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So is there any council discussion right now or we want to break right into what we need to do?

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Yeah, I just wanted to touch on this before we kind of dove in and see if the council agrees with this, but, you know, last year after we finished this process, there was a bit of frustration that, you know, it's, it's lengthy and complicated and I thought that we had given instruction to give this process started a bit earlier, so we could kind of maybe ease into it and really be able to sift through.

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And this article from political in June 24th, 2026 talks about HB-1329, which

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desances its sign, which requires local officials to identify ways to cut their proposed

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budget by 10% without reducing essential services.

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I think that goes into effect January 1.

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I think it's actually a very good idea that we could utilize this as an exercise.

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So, I would say that we could get things started with some meetings after the November election

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because we may have additional changes with a referendum that could result in some different

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budgetary items.

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So, my point on all this is I would like to see this process get started much much earlier

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so that we can kind of go through this.

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Even if this weren't into effect, it's probably a good idea for us to look and see how

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we can cut costs without cutting amenities or staff and that sort of thing.

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So I just want to start with that.

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I completely agree with that, and I hope that we've all been.

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I know we've all been working on beating up on Ron and meeting with staff and with

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Hattie.

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So whatever we can do to continue to cut the cost that we have.

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Yes, absolutely.

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Thank you, Steve.

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Yeah, not only that, but just for our own benefit.

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I mean, I received this book on Thursday.

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It's challenging to get through it.

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Everybody's been sitting on it for a while and I think it's also good for the public then would help them get involved and understand these numbers a little bit better as well.

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Thank you.

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Awesome.

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Anything over there?

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No.

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Okay.

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Let's see.

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How do you think you've got well John?

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You've got some resolutions.

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How do you ask some things that we have to do?

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How's keeping on?

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So let's go on and get that taken care of please.

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Sure.

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I will start with the first resolution, which is tab A.

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This is a resolution of the Village Council of Island Marta, Village Violence Florida,

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a Mending Resolution number 26-07-67, adopting a tentative village rate for the fiscal year

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commencing October 1, 2020-26, through September 30, 2020-27, pursuant to section 2-0-0.065,

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Florida statutes, and providing foreign effective date. And before you all begin, I'll turn it over to

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haddy. There are some information that needs to be conveyed in accordance with Florida law

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for the benefit of you all as well as the public.

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Council. I'd like to begin our budget discussion by providing the required information for consideration

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during this evening's public hearing. The tentative military presented for adoption this evening

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is 2.7231 mils. This proposed rate represents a 9.09% increase of a rollback rate of 2.4756 mils.

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The rollback rate is the milled rate that would generate the same

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Advillurum tax revenue as the prior year, excluding revenue attributable to new construction.

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The proposed increase in the milliderate is necessary to address non-discussionary increases

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in public safety expenditures and to account for inflationary cost adjustments consistent with CPI

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growth. These revenues support essential municipal services that the village is required to

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provide and maintain for health safety and welfare of the community. The tentative milliderate of

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2.7231 mills per post for adoption is evening may not exceed the proposed millage rate of 2.8 mills.

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That was advertised residents through the trim notice.

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The final millage rate scheduled for adoption at the September 17th public hearing may not exceed the tentative millage rate adopted this evening.

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The governing body is required to adopt the tentative millage rate prior to adopting the tentative budget.

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The general public is invited to speak and ask questions prior to the adoption of any measures.

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Following this, I would like to begin with tab one personnel, and then proceed through the remaining tabs.

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The adjustments requested during the budget workshops have been incorporated,

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and revenues have been updated based on the most recent figures provided by the state.

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Unless Council has additional questions that were not addressed during the budget workshops,

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I do not intend to call the department ahead forward individually.

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That will be as needed basis.

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Do we in order to discuss it because we're actually discussing the budget side of it, not just the milled side of it, do we need to open both tabs?

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I know we have to vote on the milled first, but in order to get there, we need to talk budget items.

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Yeah, I'm happy to read the other resolution caption as well, but ultimately we're going to have

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to determine each one separately.

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The millage obviously dictates what the budget will be because depending on what the

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millage rate is set at that will be the amount of expected monies that will be available

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to the council.

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So I can read the second one and I'll do that now so that it's clear that you can talk

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about both, but I would encourage you all, it's important to pass the millage rate resolution

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first when we do get to that point, and then we can pass the budget resolution.

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So it's kind of a cart before the horse, before the cart combination is the way I see it

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is that yes, the budget is dependent upon the millage rate, but also the millage rate depends

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upon the budget.

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Depends on what services and what we want to cut and what we don't want to cut.

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Yeah, that's the place and I bring this up. Yeah, they're all intertwined. Yeah, so um

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But let me read that one as well, and then that way we've got that out as well. The second tab is a resolution

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of the Village Council, by Lamar and Village Violence Floor, to providing for adoption of

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the tentative budget of the village for the fiscal year 2026-27, commencing on October 1,

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2026, and ending on September 30, 2027, authorizing expenditure of funds established by the budget

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providing for budgetary control, providing for personal authorization, providing for gifts and grants, providing for amendments, providing

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for encompasses providing for issuance of checks, providing for post audit, providing for

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severability, and providing an effective date.

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All right.

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With that, we will move on to tab one, which is personnel.

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Go ahead.

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I want to bring up an issue.

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During our budget workshops last month, the Council was presented with two scenarios regarding

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personnel salaries and costs that were labeled scenarios one and one a, they're not in the

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book tonight, but that was from the workshop.

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The Council expressed that the workshops, support for scenario 1A, the budget before

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you today, the one that you'll be considering, includes the employee, co-local, cost

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of living adjustment, and the possible merit pay rates, which were the maximums, as set

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out in scenario 1A that you heard last month.

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It also includes a specific personnel salary increase that was in scenario 1, but not in

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1A.

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I request Council direction as to whether the salary increase that was not included in scenario

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one day that you saw last month should remain in the proposed budget tonight.

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Were you further explained for us, Plain?

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Last, at the workshop, there were a couple scenarios that were passed out to Council.

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And apparently not everyone was clear, at least people I've talked to,

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that there were some differences between scenario one and one A.

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In particular, there was a salary increase, it was in one and not the other.

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Everybody in there got an increase, particularly with the Cola.

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But in particular, there was one increase that was, apparently, not everyone understood what is not in one of them.

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And so the one A has an increase, one had a bigger increase.

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He's expressed for one A, but one A did not capture the larger increase.

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And some of you have expressed an interest in addressing it, and that's why I want to bring up because unless it's addressed,

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The budget you have before you tonight has the larger salary increase, the specific one,

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unless it's changed.

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It's in the budget.

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And so I was asked to bring it up.

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I'm bringing it up.

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And I'll go into more detail, necessarily, but that's kind of what I think.

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I think you all understand what I'm expressing that I'm saying that if somebody who doesn't

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want something in the budget, now's the time to tell us, or if they want to have

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the scenario one as you thought it was without a larger increase, that's fine.

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If you say we want one A, but we want to keep the larger increase, that's an option also.

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So, it's your direction as far as what, yeah, it's not going to impact the overall budget.

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The numbers are roughly $23,000 difference.

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So, I'm not talking hundreds of thousands of dollars, I'm saying, but it is an increase.

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It's in there and that some of express them interesting and if you want to leave that increase

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in there, it's in there.

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If you don't want it in there, you'd have to say we don't want it in there.

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That's where I kind of left it.

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Do you have your rights on?

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Yes.

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I understand that one A also included that the personnel would get the benefits that we

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are currently doing.

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One, I thought one did not have the current benefits that they would have to pay more.

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And we suggested whatever the right term is in that discussion that we wanted the employee benefits to stay what they are now and it would fall to the new hires to be different.

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That was also part of one aid.

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And that is reflected in the budget, the benefits that were in one A are what's in the budget, the one that you all pushed.

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The concern was that there was another item that, apparently,

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some did not understand what's not in one A, that is in the budget.

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So I would say that I would like to see the original one A that we had that did not have the increase in it.

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State. Yeah, I agree. It seemed that we expressed support for scenario 1A, so I'll stay with that.

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I thought we walked out of here where the consensus on that ended?

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Well, I'm fine with the benefits and everything, but I think it's only right that people are getting paid

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what they should be getting paid for market rate for their positions.

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Some of these people that are a long time employees are not getting paid even close to what some of their

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relevant counterparts are getting paid throughout the county, and that's not there.

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Sharon?

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I thought there had been a lot of discussion about that, and I think that as I recall there

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had been a study done two years ago, maybe it was longer than that, and there's as a whole

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across the board in a village, and we've talked about this before, is there's a disparity

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between that study and a lot of the staff and the county.

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So my question is, and then, of course, at the same time, I think we all asked the question

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to our manager several times during this budget cycle,

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is there any fat in this budget?

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We've trimmed it, we've cut it, we've trimmed it,

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and now all of a sudden there's fat

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that we can pull out of somewhere.

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So what do we just do that?

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Wait, how much on the average Jamie is all of our staff

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below the county?

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The last time I got the numbers from the county

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and again, it's without what they're doing currently,

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we're about 13% behind our chance.

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So if there's fat in there, Mr. Manager, I think maybe you ought to go on and find that 13% for every one of our employees and not just one.

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I think that's the way to do that.

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So we can amend this budget and we can still stick with our two point seven, two, three, one, and you figure it out.

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And to be clear, whatever decision you make on this has no impact on the millage,

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a 23,000 changes, not going to increase our decrease the budget to any degree that

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we're creating a problem with the millage rate.

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It's a no it creates a problem with staff though, because you're targeting one person at

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how much of an increase?

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It depends on what you mean by, you mean, percentage or dollars lies.

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Percentage. From the current salary that's what everybody else would be, under one a, five percent, which is in the fall park.

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The range from three to six percent under, under Senator one, it'd be a 19 percent increase, and the rest are six percent.

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And isn't that what we agreed on when we walked out here the last workshop is that all of our staff would get a 3% cola and then the remainder of the staff would get a merit increase of 3%?

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A maximum increase.

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A maximum of 3%.

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Yes.

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Chair.

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I'm done.

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I'd just like to hear what your comments are.

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I think everybody's dancing around the subject and I don't think to put the put it on Ron is fair

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I think he runs the state. He can run the step

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That's not what I'm saying. I know I know but I

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Don't agree with what you're saying. Okay, and I think if people in this council have an issue

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Don't stand behind Ron say it yourself. I just said it. Well, I know you're too better. Everybody else didn't

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And I also said that I thought that that was not in the one aid that I voted on.

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So I also said that.

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Well, I guess I disagree with you guys.

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And I think raises to me are an individual consideration.

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I don't believe in across the board.

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And I know I was told that I was hard on Jamie and I don't think I was.

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What the staff doesn't realize is that, I don't know about you guys, but I have a constant flow of people coming to talk to me

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And I have to listen to the staff who I respect, but we also are here to represent the public and we hear from them, and I don't think we should cut essential people that are a great benefit to this village

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I totally agree, and so we're not cutting

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I joke people. Well, I don't agree with you guys, so I'm on on an aside on this one here that there's not a side

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It seems to be it seems to be it. Well, it seems to be and you haven't heard my decision. Yeah. No, I have no you have

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Well, that's you heard you've heard my discussion that I have it this moment. Okay, because I think that it's fair for it to be vetted out

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You but you haven't heard my decision. I didn't say I had heard your decision. So yeah, you did

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That's not going to have to stop at this time.

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No, you know.

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The thing is, we're trying to get not just one person, but several people up to where they should be getting paid.

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I think we should.

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And just because somebody has been here for 20 years, what if that person leaves tomorrow?

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That person leaves tomorrow.

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We have to rehire in that position for what market rate is.

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You can't go ask somebody to come and step into a position and get paid what they were

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getting paid in 1990.

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Not what current salaries are for that particular position.

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That is my point.

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I don't put labor in.

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So I think that I know that they tried to work on getting some of those adjusted last year

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and trying to adjust some of them again this year, I think is the right thing to do.

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We have long-standing employees that have been here for many years and it's not fair.

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that they've gone along and been such a loyal employee and only getting a 3% here and

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there, a no raise, the next year, a 3% here so they are making what somebody would

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be making in 1995 versus 2026, okay? That is my opinion.

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Good to you. But we have more than one on staffs that sat away and to single out one and do

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but this year is not right.

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I had to say something a lot on this.

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The money is going to one.

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This increase is going to one.

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So I did some rough math and I'd have to go back

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and research it all again, but I came up with the fact

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to bring everybody up to market rate

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would probably be more in the $500,000 range.

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That's a lot of money to bring everybody up

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market rate. That's a lot. We can't do that. But we can do increment steps. And that's

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what we thought we started last year and we're still working on that. I still stand by,

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I think the original one A that I voted on is what I want.

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Maybe I can make a couple more

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for clarification.

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We started our budget or October 1st of last year, and last year's budget had no increase.

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It had zero co-love, zero merit pay.

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Yeah, there were no increases, and we kept pretty tight budget.

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I was directed by Council to see what we can do more for employees.

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Jamie Terry, I tried to record that a great job.

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We've done, we meet daily, and talked about market studies, and how we would

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and tried to come up with a merit-pay system that worked and wasn't as here as a salary increase you had a show where you've earned it.

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Then in April a situation where I was asked to look into a situation and meet a market condition and this was mid-year.

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This wasn't budget time and I agreed to see what I could do to remedy the situation.

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When we did that, there was a raise given in the mid-year, but I was not the only one because when that one was given, I mentioned that if I did it for one.

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I'd have several others would have to get compensated also, which I was able to do under my authority.

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When it came time to this budget, though, that increased then substantially, nobody else got the increase after April.

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The budget, before you today, I think what the councilperson Gillis is saying is that in the budget before you, there's only one increase over what was already increased.

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The other ones would be getting increases, assuming we did the cola and that in the three to six percent range.

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One is not in that range, that's the point I'm bringing up and that's the will of the council.

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I'm fine with that because that's what was talked about in April.

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But since it's come up as an issue and I want to make sure and it was a little confusing because I think someone told me that that was a

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scrubbinger's error that it wasn't both, it wasn't a scrubbinger's error but I guess that wasn't clear that it was intentional that one had

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about in one and the other one didn't, and that's why I thought it's important to bring it up.

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I know it's hard to talk this way without being too specific, but that was the dilemma.

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I'm in, is that the one A's in the budget except for that one item, and unless I'm told otherwise, it's in the budget.

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So if you want to stick to one A, is what you thought was in one A, that's fine.

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But at least one of you says, told me that's not their understanding.

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So, it does.

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Is this counted in with a three and a three? Is there going to be a coalition of merit on top of this?

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Under scenario one, if the increase was not included, the specific one we're talking about would get a 5% increase, which result in the range of everybody else.

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If you went with scenario one, which is the one that had the higher one, it would be a much higher increase compared to everybody else.

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So there's one that's kind of sticking out.

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It's compared to others.

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We try to give everybody some type of bump.

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Everybody would get beginning the cost of living.

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Not everyone would get the merit raise because that's a maximum.

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And we don't know what that would be.

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But the three percent across the board.

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So everyone would get the three percent because that's a colon.

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That is the only across the board thing.

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merit is based on the analysis we did with the staff, et cetera.

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So I'm not sure how to answer that, I'd say that under

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the scenario one, they're all in the range of three to six percent

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except for one.

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The scenario one also included a difference in the benefits.

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And that's the change.

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And we wanted to keep the benefits for what we did this year,

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and not raise the costs to the employees,

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not raise the benefits in that respect.

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So just to say that scenario one,

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only has that difference is not exactly true,

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because it includes the benefit difference

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that we all, I thought, agreed to,

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and we wanted to do.

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So that's where one A started, but one A also had the additional limit, and it was clear, and yes, the April thing, April incident, was brought up to all of us, I believe.

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I was aware of it, so I just wanted to make sure that one has the old benefit, not the old.

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It's the benefits that would be paid by more people.

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The one A was very well received by staff.

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I appreciate it.

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In fact, when you decided on one A, that's the direction we got.

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that one day did not increase the cost of employees,

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I think that was a 50 part of the one day.

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The problem was there was a second thing in there,

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not associated with that,

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that was a personal issue, that was different.

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I say there was differences, we've already put in there

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that one A for the benefits,

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that's done deal, assuming you've heard the budget,

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that was a great thing to do and you all agreed to it.

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The scenario under one A, that's incorporated.

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The only thing that wasn't in one A that hasn't that that's carried into this was what that the

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Partens scenario one that had they specific salary increase that people maybe thought by saying you'll go with one A

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That that increase is not there

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Oh, there's thought it was there and so that's why I wanted to clarify it is confusing. I'm sorry. It's confusing

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But there's there were two two different things going there was the the

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merit and the cola, which we think is great, the decision you made, but there's that specific

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increase that some thought was carried over and it wasn't, and so now that increase is in

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the budget, and once again if you don't want to the budget, I'm good with that, but we can't

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raise, to be responsible for fiscal, I'd love to give all the other staff more raises to

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get them work if I, but it's just not fiscal, we're responsible to that, we just can't do

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that.

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to give everybody a raise to market rate because we are below market and that's just a

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fact of life. I do want to say we have a great staff. I think Jamie's going to

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a great job sort of trying to institute the coal in the Maripay. We've put a lot of

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hours into it and we recognize we're below market but we have good benefits. We have

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good bosses and people like working for the bill. We've had very low turnover. I'm

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filled with other areas in the county and when you compare our staff versus other staff,

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We've had much less turnover than they have because I think people like working for the village.

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But, you know, there's certain situations that come up where, you know,

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almost everybody in our staff, if another job came up, you know,

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we have some very qualified people that could probably make more money going somewhere else.

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You know, and some members of this table right here.

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That's just the fact of life and when I can address it, I can,

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and if I can't address it, then whatever happens happens.

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But in this situation, it's kind of gotten to the point where I had to get direction,

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because it's a, it's a, it's a point of contention with the individual members of the council and I just figured you're the ultimate bosses and you know, that's where we are.

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So I'll ask the question again and maybe you'll answer me this time.

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Does this in, is this before or after the 3% cola and any merit increase that may come with this?

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It's after.

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I'm trying to be clear what you're asking.

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So on their scenario one day, the individual was going

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to get a 5% increase of what he's making today.

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That's in the same range as everybody else.

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On their scenario one, which is the point of contention,

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the increase of a 19.39% overcurrent salary,

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compared to the next highest is six.

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So the scenario one A, which went back to, the individual would be getting, that would include the five percent.

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I mean, my recommendation was the three percent coal is across the board, and the person would get a two percent.

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It would match the rest of the employing.

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The percentage is not the dollars, obviously.

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The first is higher pay.

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So dollar-wise, no, there's not a comparable, but percentage-wise, one A, if you didn't have that big increase,

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would be in line with everybody else. One, which was, is the thing a question would be way

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out of line with everybody else, but that is what it is. I'm trying, I don't know if

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I'm still not answering a question. Let me understand the question a bit more then.

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It's included. It's included. Both of them included. That was one word. That was one

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word that answered my question. Thank you. The answer is yes, then. Thank you,

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I think I think we need to make clarification on that.

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I think I'm not sure, I talked to John before the meeting about how best to ward this.

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I'm not sure this is the right wording, but the question was whether the salary increase

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that was not included in one A, which was just the same as it should be remain

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in the post budget.

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If you don't want, let me ask it this way, is it included in this right here?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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We accept this, then we've accepted that.

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You've accepted the larger increase.

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If you...

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If you...

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There doesn't need to be any of that.

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This is...

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It's here. If somebody's not happy with that, then they go, I'm not happy with this. We're reviewing this. That's the easy way to look at that.

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Okay, so why don't we talk about this now? You opened up with is there anything else we need to talk about about these salaries?

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Not for me. Howdy is there any other explanation that has to happen?

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Not for me.

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And as we go, we're looking through these and the red numbers that we're looking at means that we've cut something, right?

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We've brought things down.

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The red is increased.

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The green is increased.

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Yeah.

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The opposite.

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Yeah.

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Green good, red bad.

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Okay, under personnel, I do not agree with the, if that's the way we want to go with this,

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do not agree with the preliminary personnel figures of 15,596,201 dollars.

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So you would subtract 23,000 from that, is that what you're saying?

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That is what I'm trying to say.

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Whatever that figure is.

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For clarification, the figure would the difference be $20,000, $630 dollars.

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That's the figure.

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23,6.

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Paul, please.

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Paul, please.

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Well, Jamie's looking to pull up the number to get the exact number because if it's going

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to be a motion to amend to reduce it to that number, we'll want to make sure to get the

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exact number.

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Yeah.

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And if, of course, I think what you're saying is that that's just the salary for it.

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Obviously, the higher the salary, the benefits associated with, so the actual impact,

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the reduction in the budget would be actually greater than that, because if you reduce the salary,

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but that's just the salary.

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That's a salary sector.

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I think that's what Jamie's saying.

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Yeah.

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She's calculating the action.

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Give me the number.

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Well, she's doing this.

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So this number is 15, 596 includes the benefits.

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Am I hearing that right?

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It includes all personnel.

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All that's.

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Taxes, taxis, taxis, benefits, everything, everything.

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That's why, yeah.

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Except for village council.

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Perfect village council.

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And I got that.

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I got that clarified.

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That's the way it's been forever.

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That's the easy map.

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The budget, the budget impact would be 35,000, 015.68.

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35,000, 5,000.

433
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What is that number?

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What column are you subtracting that from?

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You would need to take that off of the preliminary personnel number of the 15 million.

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And so minus, it would be minus 35,000, $15 and six-eight cents would be the impact.

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The differential impact benefits and everything included.

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How do you do in the math?

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And that gives us a good estimate because this is all going to get cleaned up in our next

440
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:23,560
budget hearing.

441
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,820
So, we've got a good sense of what that number is.

442
00:42:26,820 --> 00:42:27,940
That

443
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:05,020
would bring it to 15, 561, 1185 and 32 cents.

444
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,040
15, 561, 185.

445
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:15,440
Yep.

446
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,200
Say that again.

447
00:43:19,900 --> 00:43:20,340
15.

448
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:21,400
Say it.

449
00:43:21,500 --> 00:43:22,560
You'll say it one more time.

450
00:43:23,060 --> 00:43:28,300
15, 5, 6, 1, 1, 8, 5, 0.32.

451
00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:30,060
Got it.

452
00:43:32,540 --> 00:43:33,380
Thank you.

453
00:43:41,540 --> 00:43:44,680
So now that we have that,

454
00:44:03,180 --> 00:44:10,100
now that we have that, no, do we, do we, say, okay, let's move on?

455
00:44:10,300 --> 00:44:11,640
Are we okay with that?

456
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,800
Do we vote on each section?

457
00:44:14,020 --> 00:44:16,880
I don't know, proper procedure here.

458
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,940
I would do, if we're going to reduce that number,

459
00:44:20,940 --> 00:44:25,220
I would do it as a motion to reduce the preliminary personnel number two,

460
00:44:25,220 --> 00:44:31,600
the numbers specified by Hattie, and so I'll do it as a stand-alone motion for that change.

461
00:44:36,690 --> 00:44:38,190
So, are you making that motion?

462
00:44:38,470 --> 00:44:45,570
I'll make that motion to reduce it to the 1, 5, 5, 6, 1, 8, 5, 0.32.

463
00:44:47,410 --> 00:44:47,990
I get the right.

464
00:44:48,970 --> 00:44:51,450
There's a motion on the table, is there a second?

465
00:44:52,990 --> 00:44:53,290
Second.

466
00:44:54,870 --> 00:44:56,310
Okay, there's a motion, a second.

467
00:44:56,770 --> 00:44:58,210
Marty we call the room.

468
00:45:00,300 --> 00:45:09,920
Council Member Gabgillis? Yes. Council Member C Friedman? Yes. Council Member Anne Richard? No. Vice Mayor Chair and the Honie? No. And Mayor Don Hartmore. No.

469
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,680
That's the motion, guys. Fails? Two to three.

470
00:45:21,140 --> 00:45:28,740
Any other questions on personnel? Excuse me? Any other questions on personnel? No, I think we need to move in as a gentleman from.

471
00:45:29,140 --> 00:45:36,980
Yeah, just a quick, so now we're at 15 596201. No change to what you have in front of you. Okay. Thank you.

472
00:45:44,940 --> 00:45:57,180
All right, since the proposed mileage that you directed during the budget workshops was the 2.7231, you guys want to look at page tab 2-8.

473
00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,140
That's where that begins.

474
00:46:06,020 --> 00:46:10,560
And with that, to millidrate, we would add to fund balance, $142,000.

475
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:16,160
and $193. 142,093 dollars.

476
00:46:19,670 --> 00:46:24,030
Then I'll just move along to General Fund Revenue, which is on

477
00:46:24,030 --> 00:46:24,730
tab 12,

478
00:46:26,750 --> 00:46:32,210
and just explain that we did receive the revenue amounts from the state, so there

479
00:46:32,210 --> 00:46:38,130
have been a couple updates in there, communications, services, tax, increased a little bit,

480
00:46:38,130 --> 00:46:51,960
Your Advalorum taxes are now showing the calculation using the 2.7231 and I've also added some revenue under the miscellaneous revenue.

481
00:46:52,340 --> 00:46:56,260
After researching that account a little bit, I was comfortable with adding some revenue for that.

482
00:46:59,670 --> 00:47:01,110
Any questions about the revenues?

483
00:47:07,940 --> 00:47:09,400
Moving along to...

484
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:10,120
Oh, go ahead.

485
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,400
Are we on 2-12?

486
00:47:11,860 --> 00:47:13,560
That was 2-12 for revenues?

487
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:23,440
Yes, so I'm question about the franchise fee for solid waste, where we had budget 950,

488
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:31,660
we had 975, it's back at 950, and I think that solid waste is going to increase.

489
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,100
I think we spoke about that recently.

490
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,320
Does that mean that franchise fee will increase?

491
00:47:38,900 --> 00:47:40,200
It's a percentage, right?

492
00:47:40,620 --> 00:47:43,000
Yeah, I can look at that for the next meeting.

493
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:48,960
I was probably just trying to be conservative before we had the contract updated.

494
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:50,880
Gotcha.

495
00:47:51,420 --> 00:47:52,180
Thank you.

496
00:47:52,420 --> 00:47:52,580
Howdy.

497
00:47:53,320 --> 00:48:00,980
There's a grant that was just approved yesterday at the County Commission meeting for a grant

498
00:48:00,980 --> 00:48:02,460
for libraries.

499
00:48:03,540 --> 00:48:10,340
Has the county notified Islanderata of any monies that may be coming to Islanderata for that grant

500
00:48:10,340 --> 00:48:11,640
since it was a county grant?

501
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,580
I have not received any information on that, right?

502
00:48:15,740 --> 00:48:15,960
Okay.

503
00:48:16,300 --> 00:48:16,860
I have not.

504
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:22,520
There's also was an increased yesterday the county commission mean for tipping fees

505
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,520
at the solid waste at their transfer station.

506
00:48:27,380 --> 00:48:31,400
Does anybody know how much the county makes off for those tipping fees?

507
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,000
I do not.

508
00:48:33,900 --> 00:48:38,640
I know that at one point there was a discussion about how much our solid waste

509
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:43,100
contractor was paying for tipping fees and they tried to come to some sort of agreement with

510
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:45,400
the county but I don't know where they landed with that.

511
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:53,620
I think it'd be important to find those two things out and maybe if we could before the next meeting

512
00:48:54,380 --> 00:49:02,140
and see if we get a response. I've asked the manager a couple of times to see if he could figure

513
00:49:02,140 --> 00:49:06,640
those things out and I think we need to figure that out.

514
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:15,700
I think there's probably other things that the county does that, that I don't see that

515
00:49:15,700 --> 00:49:23,140
they're sharing with the village on those kind of things where they probably should be.

516
00:49:26,590 --> 00:49:26,690
Okay.

517
00:49:27,630 --> 00:49:28,870
I will look at that for you.

518
00:49:29,110 --> 00:49:29,850
Thank you.

519
00:49:33,340 --> 00:49:34,780
Any other questions on revenues?

520
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,800
I don't see the hands raised out there either.

521
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:40,140
Get audience land.

522
00:49:40,460 --> 00:49:40,880
Okay.

523
00:49:43,260 --> 00:49:49,660
Under Village Council, the only change since the workshop is a reduction on the travel

524
00:49:49,660 --> 00:49:52,700
and per DM, which you guys directed to reduce by $5,000.

525
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,260
That's tab 213.

526
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,980
Do we have a better sense of what the election is going to cost now that our clerks have

527
00:50:15,980 --> 00:50:17,840
been taken over election from the county?

528
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,800
We still haven't had any updates on those needs yet.

529
00:50:23,980 --> 00:50:26,080
So we're just going to get a guess of $5,000, right?

530
00:50:26,180 --> 00:50:27,000
That's what we're estimating.

531
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,360
We're still waiting to hear back from them.

532
00:50:29,860 --> 00:50:30,120
Thank you.

533
00:50:36,230 --> 00:50:36,610
All right.

534
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:38,530
Moving along to village attorney.

535
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:45,040
In the next budget book, we will have a breakout of the.

536
00:50:46,980 --> 00:50:48,080
We get the verbage

537
00:50:51,790 --> 00:50:53,310
of the different fees.

538
00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:54,930
Or the names.

539
00:50:55,350 --> 00:50:55,830
Another one.

540
00:50:56,190 --> 00:50:59,490
It was just me called the general municipal services and then the other line.

541
00:50:59,590 --> 00:51:02,030
I don't be litigation in special projects.

542
00:51:02,110 --> 00:51:02,990
Thank you.

543
00:51:02,990 --> 00:51:03,650
The wrong spot.

544
00:51:06,380 --> 00:51:09,100
And that will be for general municipal services.

545
00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:16,760
Just 523,740, and the litigation and special projects will be 176,260.

546
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,660
Still staying at the $700,000 budget at a mount.

547
00:51:35,630 --> 00:51:37,030
Any questions on village attorney?

548
00:51:40,170 --> 00:51:40,410
All right.

549
00:51:40,550 --> 00:51:41,130
Village Manager.

550
00:51:47,450 --> 00:51:52,890
The only change is there's an increase of $4,947 in personnel expense.

551
00:51:53,430 --> 00:51:58,550
And I think that's because Jamie did some actual projections to make sure that they were

552
00:51:58,550 --> 00:52:03,830
or accurate, and reflect closer to what they will actually be at the end of the year.

553
00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:09,370
And you'll see that going forward with all of the personnel salaries.

554
00:52:19,530 --> 00:52:24,550
What was the other salaries and wages on that one up top?

555
00:52:24,550 --> 00:52:29,130
48,000 that is 1,000.

556
00:52:30,110 --> 00:52:34,990
The 48,000 is the housing step in for the village manager.

557
00:52:37,780 --> 00:52:42,780
And then there's a thousand and over time, so really, that over time.

558
00:52:50,720 --> 00:52:53,260
Any questions on the village manager account?

559
00:52:57,270 --> 00:53:01,210
Village clerk, the same thing, just a little increase in the personal expense.

560
00:53:01,630 --> 00:53:04,770
Everything else remains the same from the budget workshops.

561
00:53:17,720 --> 00:53:19,600
Any questions for the village clerk?

562
00:53:19,660 --> 00:53:20,420
Clerk department.

563
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,260
Don't see any.

564
00:53:24,980 --> 00:53:45,920
Finance and administration, same thing, there's an increase in personal expense, there's a decrease in workers' comp and the insurance because we got you guys approved the to your agreement so we reduced those expenses total expense decrease for finances $77,352.

565
00:53:50,660 --> 00:53:55,580
Where's the Rosasco accounting?

566
00:53:56,340 --> 00:53:57,580
It's my question.

567
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,660
It's under it says consulting Bishop Rosasco for $30,000.

568
00:54:09,850 --> 00:54:14,290
Can you explain the difference?

569
00:54:15,090 --> 00:54:19,830
The difference in the contracts will be because I'm adding,

570
00:54:19,830 --> 00:54:25,490
I'm refunding, refunding my staff account in position.

571
00:54:26,610 --> 00:54:29,150
So, reallocating those funds to that position,

572
00:54:29,930 --> 00:54:31,930
and then still want to utilize them,

573
00:54:31,970 --> 00:54:33,870
because we are potentially going to have

574
00:54:33,870 --> 00:54:36,630
to take out some SRF loans for the wastewater

575
00:54:37,410 --> 00:54:39,830
capital projects that are coming up.

576
00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:45,650
And those are little difficult and time-consuming.

577
00:54:45,870 --> 00:54:47,630
So, I would like some support on that

578
00:54:47,630 --> 00:54:49,370
make sure that we get everything done properly.

579
00:54:52,150 --> 00:54:54,390
Okay, so you're going to look for some specific

580
00:54:54,930 --> 00:55:00,690
projects that you might need help with from Rososco specifically or another consulting firm

581
00:55:00,690 --> 00:55:06,130
or? Um, he would be, he would be assisting me that specific firm would be assisting me with the SRF

582
00:55:06,130 --> 00:55:13,310
loans and any other financial support I might need. But it's a, it's a reduction. Yes.

583
00:55:13,310 --> 00:55:18,510
It's less than, yeah, yeah, it's a reduction over last year's, all right.

584
00:55:25,710 --> 00:55:27,570
Any other finance questions?

585
00:55:29,270 --> 00:55:29,990
Okay.

586
00:55:30,670 --> 00:55:31,530
Moving along.

587
00:55:34,780 --> 00:55:39,960
Planning the only change in that budget is again, the personal expense.

588
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,240
Everything else remains the same.

589
00:55:56,950 --> 00:55:58,850
Any questions for the planning department?

590
00:55:59,730 --> 00:56:00,750
There'll be light time.

591
00:56:01,310 --> 00:56:01,810
Oh, yeah, question.

592
00:56:02,190 --> 00:56:02,570
Oh, okay.

593
00:56:02,570 --> 00:56:03,370
Yep.

594
00:56:03,890 --> 00:56:04,070
It's not.

595
00:56:04,070 --> 00:56:04,490
All right.

596
00:56:04,710 --> 00:56:11,310
Moving along to I.C. and communications, again, personnel expense increase, and then there

597
00:56:11,310 --> 00:56:16,430
was also an increase for dozen subscriptions, but only around $38, $3,300.

598
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:35,040
And just to reiterate, Vince will be looking into a lot of cost savings for the dozen

599
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,540
subscriptions account.

600
00:56:44,830 --> 00:56:46,410
Any questions on the IT department?

601
00:56:48,460 --> 00:56:48,960
I see none.

602
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:55,580
Local law enforcement, there's been no changes since the budget workshops.

603
00:57:12,660 --> 00:57:20,520
Fire rescue, we had a issue with the spreadsheets linking properly to the personnel spreadsheet.

604
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:27,560
So there's a substantial increase there due to the error on the Excel linking.

605
00:57:31,310 --> 00:57:34,590
And then obviously updating the actual for the personnel.

606
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:48,420
If we can work on scheduling and this, we can likely lower this over time down, is that not right?

607
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,620
Chief, can you help me with this over time, please?

608
00:58:03,700 --> 00:58:04,660
Yes, sir.

609
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:05,660
Thank you.

610
00:58:07,700 --> 00:58:10,480
How can we get over time down on this?

611
00:58:11,300 --> 00:58:17,960
Is there not recommendation from the consultant that Ron had gotten approval for?

612
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:22,960
the consultant come out with any ideas of how we can lessen over time.

613
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:30,460
There is an idea, however, it actually incurs us picking up additional staffing.

614
00:58:31,420 --> 00:58:36,160
So we pick up additional manning for each shift.

615
00:58:36,340 --> 00:58:38,520
However, we keep our staffing levels at the same.

616
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,360
So we're below the NFPA standard currently.

617
00:58:41,940 --> 00:58:44,120
Typically, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday,

618
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:44,980
we drop to 11.

619
00:58:45,220 --> 00:58:46,260
We should stay at 12.

620
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:52,960
as a cost savings, I gamble the odds that we're not gonna have the worst calls on the

621
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:57,860
weekdays, so we drop levels to 11 instead of 12, 12 is where we like to keep it.

622
00:58:58,220 --> 00:59:03,500
The recommendation was to actually pick up so that my normal staffing on all three shifts

623
00:59:03,500 --> 00:59:09,800
would be 13 or 14 people with my minimum staffing being at 12, so if one person calls

624
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,820
out or two people call out, we don't have to fill in any positions, we only have to fill

625
00:59:13,820 --> 00:59:16,460
once that third or fourth person calls out.

626
00:59:16,740 --> 00:59:19,620
But again, then you're weighing out what a personnel cost

627
00:59:19,620 --> 00:59:24,500
and their cost benefits and their salaries, FRS, insurance,

628
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,860
all that good stuff versus just paying straight over time.

629
00:59:28,340 --> 00:59:30,920
So there is a very small savings there.

630
00:59:31,380 --> 00:59:36,000
But again, it's increasing staffing times either three or six people.

631
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,880
And so you've run this scenario where we'd actually save money

632
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:46,660
if we had more staff because we wouldn't be paying the time and half on the salary.

633
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:47,580
Correct.

634
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,900
It's a minimal savings but there is some, yes.

635
00:59:50,780 --> 00:59:59,640
What is a minimal number when I'm looking at a budget of this size, what is that minimal number?

636
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,680
I will get you that later tomorrow afternoon. I'm not going to shoot from the hip on that.

637
01:00:06,180 --> 01:00:07,620
Okay. There's a lot of variables.

638
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:16,080
Also, do you have control over this overtime? I mean, is it part of the contract that the overtime

639
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:24,920
be granted to, let's say, the higher payer, higher paider, higher seniority level, or does

640
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,540
everybody get a chance at making this overtime?

641
01:00:27,540 --> 01:00:32,860
everybody gets it. So we fill officer positions with officer positions and we try to fill

642
01:00:32,860 --> 01:00:38,120
medic with medic and then EMT can get filled. We try to first with EMT. So there's a pecking

643
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:42,480
order. We try to go like for like first and then it goes to the next lowest and it goes to the next

644
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:48,040
lowest because obviously we don't want to give up a captain and have a two year EMT step in and try to

645
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:54,140
fill a captain's position. So then we have to pay step up pay for somebody else. But we do have a

646
01:00:54,140 --> 01:01:00,700
to it and everybody's equally applied. So when we fire out over time, like I said, it's

647
01:01:00,700 --> 01:01:05,500
like for like first and it goes to everybody. Everybody has between two and six minutes to

648
01:01:05,500 --> 01:01:10,580
reply to their app on their phone to either take it or deny it. And then it goes to the next person

649
01:01:10,580 --> 01:01:14,400
and it goes to the next person. If you passed you in a half hour ago and nobody's taken it,

650
01:01:14,500 --> 01:01:19,760
you still have that option to pick up the overtime on the app. So everybody has the option,

651
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:26,180
some people don't. As was mentioned yesterday or Tuesday night, most of my guys have two

652
01:01:26,180 --> 01:01:30,520
jobs, so sometimes they can't pick up an overtime position because of their second jobs

653
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:37,280
interfering. So those that have strict schedules with their second job, they work their regular

654
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:41,920
shifts, they don't pick up overtime. Those that don't have a second job frequently pick

655
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:42,800
up the overtime.

656
01:01:45,110 --> 01:01:46,890
Awesome. Thank you. Thanks, Chief.

657
01:01:46,890 --> 01:01:47,710
Yes, sir.

658
01:01:54,460 --> 01:01:56,300
Any other questions about fire rescue?

659
01:02:06,310 --> 01:02:07,130
Code compliance?

660
01:02:08,130 --> 01:02:13,870
I did have a chance to sit down with our supervisor of code.

661
01:02:14,590 --> 01:02:15,910
Sorry, it wasn't a wear of his title.

662
01:02:17,430 --> 01:02:22,350
And he actually found a huge savings in their training.

663
01:02:23,330 --> 01:02:25,070
Where it all will be online now.

664
01:02:26,030 --> 01:02:29,130
And so that's where you're going to see a big reduction in travel and

665
01:02:29,850 --> 01:02:33,470
and the training itself is actually a lot less expensive.

666
01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:40,880
Is this on our professional services?

667
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,480
Do we pay our code magistrate?

668
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,980
Do we pay them a straight salary on their contract?

669
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,060
Or is it just as we use them?

670
01:02:52,740 --> 01:02:54,380
I believe it's just as we use them.

671
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:55,020
Yeah, it's hourly.

672
01:02:55,540 --> 01:02:56,040
It's hourly.

673
01:02:56,700 --> 01:02:56,860
Okay.

674
01:02:57,980 --> 01:03:00,360
And so the better our code compliance folks do

675
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:06,400
getting compliance unless hearings we have, unless we're paying this guy. Okay. Thank you.

676
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:12,680
And I think that's why he was comfortable knocking it down a thousand dollars. Yeah. Yeah,

677
01:03:13,180 --> 01:03:18,920
they're seems like they're hearings have been less and compliance has been ironed. And we also

678
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:23,780
have a new co-compliance, a new co-compliance magistrate, and we were able to negotiate a lower

679
01:03:23,780 --> 01:03:28,880
really rate for him as well. Good deal. Thank you.

680
01:03:31,540 --> 01:03:34,740
All right. Any questions, that code?

681
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:44,540
Moving along to public works. Again, you'll see an increase in the personnel, an increase

682
01:03:44,540 --> 01:03:52,760
$1,000 in utility services, decrease in repair and maintenance by 1,000 to balance that out.

683
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,500
And then an adjustment to the allocation to the transportation fund.

684
01:04:06,620 --> 01:04:09,480
Any questions about public works?

685
01:04:12,470 --> 01:04:13,550
I see none up here.

686
01:04:13,930 --> 01:04:15,130
Okay, moving along.

687
01:04:17,310 --> 01:04:18,710
Parks and Recreation Department.

688
01:04:19,930 --> 01:04:24,150
The only change I have currently is an increase in personnel.

689
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:30,940
Would you have any questions?

690
01:04:31,460 --> 01:04:33,480
I know there were questions about the special events.

691
01:04:42,350 --> 01:04:48,350
How we might be able to find some revenue sources or some sponsors or something

692
01:04:53,430 --> 01:04:56,990
to lessen taxpayer dollars that are coming in, or yes, John.

693
01:04:57,410 --> 01:05:05,430
As it's after the workshop, my office met with Maria and Annie about that, and we are

694
01:05:05,430 --> 01:05:10,990
working with them to formulate a sponsorship policy, so that there's a clear policy and in

695
01:05:10,990 --> 01:05:16,050
there, the amounts that will come with with the village

696
01:05:16,050 --> 01:05:18,230
conspecified which events can be sponsored

697
01:05:18,230 --> 01:05:21,130
and then what the costs will be and also anticipating

698
01:05:21,130 --> 01:05:23,330
the option if you want to sponsor all events

699
01:05:23,330 --> 01:05:24,630
you can do it for X amount.

700
01:05:25,530 --> 01:05:28,610
So we're working on getting a policy so that that'll be in place.

701
01:05:28,630 --> 01:05:31,590
So hopefully we can start bringing in some,

702
01:05:31,590 --> 01:05:34,270
are subsidizing some of those costs through sponsorships.

703
01:05:35,210 --> 01:05:35,730
OK.

704
01:05:35,730 --> 01:05:44,010
I also had a call from ICE and not the guys in the black suits in the mask, but the folks

705
01:05:44,010 --> 01:05:49,990
that work on the music venues and all of that stuff, and they're really struggling, and

706
01:05:49,990 --> 01:05:52,950
they're requesting some assistance for us.

707
01:05:53,570 --> 01:06:03,190
Also we had a speaker at our last council meeting that got up and talked about wanting to

708
01:06:03,190 --> 01:06:20,150
keep things like pops in a park, and that kind of thing, and are we looked at any ways to be able to promote those and keep those without driving up the cost on the taxpayer?

709
01:06:21,370 --> 01:06:28,430
I know Maria is increasing parking fees, and there is one event that we're actually not going to be able to have.

710
01:06:28,430 --> 01:06:34,190
next year, so we will reduce the budget accordingly for the special events, but outside

711
01:06:34,190 --> 01:06:39,350
of that, I know that they're looking at increasing charging more for different items,

712
01:06:39,650 --> 01:06:42,470
retail items, at the events themselves and parking.

713
01:06:43,650 --> 01:06:48,310
There was also an email that we received that talked about our special events and how the

714
01:06:48,310 --> 01:06:51,990
budget is going up quite a bit.

715
01:06:51,990 --> 01:07:01,070
Is there reason why it's raised from 75,000 to 115,000 is that just the cost to do in business?

716
01:07:01,610 --> 01:07:07,370
No, part of it is because Ilamrodic community entertainment is having hard time supporting

717
01:07:07,370 --> 01:07:13,090
the events that they've been doing for the past years, as far as paying for the sound and the

718
01:07:13,090 --> 01:07:21,010
lighting and all of that. So they did request for us to help them with those charges. So that is a portion

719
01:07:26,700 --> 01:07:28,320
I got a hand up, Jamie.

720
01:07:32,130 --> 01:07:41,210
Hi, Jamie Angle. And thank you, John, for bringing up the email I sent to all of you guys. And while I understand

721
01:07:41,210 --> 01:07:46,970
that we wanted to do things for the community and beats on the ban, all these events or fabulous,

722
01:07:47,810 --> 01:07:55,670
when Maria was nice enough to put together a calendar kind of with some tentative numbers, and I just looked at it.

723
01:07:55,670 --> 01:07:59,090
my prior life, I was an events in meeting and convention planner.

724
01:07:59,630 --> 01:08:01,970
So I kind of looked at it with a more critical eye.

725
01:08:02,750 --> 01:08:06,090
And just so that the public is aware, it's not a little bit of money.

726
01:08:06,550 --> 01:08:09,050
It's like 63,000 dollars.

727
01:08:09,910 --> 01:08:12,710
So you guys just had a 35-minute conversation

728
01:08:13,690 --> 01:08:15,990
about raising, giving someone a raise,

729
01:08:16,570 --> 01:08:18,670
which I guess we don't want to say who it was,

730
01:08:19,510 --> 01:08:21,490
but glad it's going to go through, I think.

731
01:08:22,350 --> 01:08:27,150
But you want to spend $63,000 on special events.

732
01:08:27,690 --> 01:08:31,450
And it's not that we should not do events.

733
01:08:32,450 --> 01:08:35,730
We should find ways to cover the expenses,

734
01:08:36,090 --> 01:08:41,050
because we're not here to take a loss on every single one of those events.

735
01:08:41,770 --> 01:08:44,250
My other concern that I brought.

736
01:08:44,490 --> 01:08:47,890
And I did give you three or four emails I think I went back.

737
01:08:47,890 --> 01:08:54,130
And I send it to everybody and I gave ideas on different things selling tickets to the event.

738
01:08:54,430 --> 01:08:58,970
One of the gentlemen at Parks and Rec said he came and watched one of the cover bands

739
01:08:58,970 --> 01:09:04,710
at one of Beats on the Bay and thought he was so great, he got in for free, he went to

740
01:09:04,710 --> 01:09:10,530
home instead, I think it was and saw the band and they spent $25 a ticket, I think he said,

741
01:09:10,830 --> 01:09:12,770
to go see the same cover band.

742
01:09:12,770 --> 01:09:19,890
So, if there are ways that we can sell one of my ideas was, if there's a series of six events,

743
01:09:20,510 --> 01:09:27,890
then sell a series of tickets, all six events for $50, pay $10 an event, get one for free.

744
01:09:28,810 --> 01:09:33,530
The village then knows, most of the time people come and choose, so that's $100, right?

745
01:09:33,770 --> 01:09:36,490
And that's whether they show up or they don't show up.

746
01:09:36,830 --> 01:09:38,810
That's $100 or it's $50.

747
01:09:38,810 --> 01:09:46,150
charged the the the food trucks instead of going off of 15% of whatever they may make

748
01:09:46,150 --> 01:09:52,990
charge them $200 an event let them come to six charge them for five that's a thousand dollars

749
01:09:52,990 --> 01:09:57,970
of food truck there's some more money in your pocket. So I think it's just a matter of really

750
01:09:57,970 --> 01:10:04,030
sitting down and brainstorming and doing some sponsorship. My other concern though if you guys

751
01:10:04,030 --> 01:10:10,250
looked at it was back in January, you all passed a resolution to limit the number of events

752
01:10:10,250 --> 01:10:17,730
at the park. And based on the events that are already being advertised, beats on the Bay

753
01:10:17,730 --> 01:10:25,450
has six, there's the medical market, there's the Christmas event, there's Trunker Tree, there's

754
01:10:25,450 --> 01:10:33,170
you are already probably double the number of events that you all agreed you are going to limit

755
01:10:33,170 --> 01:11:01,210
back in January. So I would just say somebody's not looking at, sorry, somebody's not looking at the calendar, or the numbers, or the resolutions that you're passing, because if you put a limit, so that the park is not being overused, someone needs to look at that calendar, figure out how many people if it's a large event, a major event, and how many you're allowed to have a year, or change the resolution and change it up again.

756
01:11:01,210 --> 01:11:01,690
I don't know.

757
01:11:02,030 --> 01:11:05,510
The other thing too is you had limits in the number of days

758
01:11:05,510 --> 01:11:09,750
between these events and looking at the calendars,

759
01:11:10,330 --> 01:11:11,710
that's out the window too,

760
01:11:11,750 --> 01:11:13,770
because there's a lot of events that don't,

761
01:11:14,290 --> 01:11:16,510
you know, fall within that or whatever.

762
01:11:17,450 --> 01:11:21,790
So just my two cents, but we're not talking a little bit of money.

763
01:11:22,270 --> 01:11:26,310
It's 63,000 plus probably another seven or eight thousand dollars

764
01:11:26,310 --> 01:11:30,270
if we add the additional new events that are on that schedule.

765
01:11:30,270 --> 01:11:35,830
So I just think, have a workshop, figure out what you can do to try to put the stuff together,

766
01:11:36,150 --> 01:11:40,690
Ron actually told me when I sent it to him, they were good ideas and he was going to send

767
01:11:40,690 --> 01:11:41,370
it to supplement.

768
01:11:41,550 --> 01:11:47,310
But I think you definitely need to look at the budget just in that, you know, that particular

769
01:11:47,770 --> 01:11:48,170
case.

770
01:11:48,250 --> 01:11:49,350
They're ways to cover it.

771
01:11:49,410 --> 01:11:51,050
We just got to figure it out.

772
01:11:57,700 --> 01:12:00,900
Maria, do you want to come up and address some of those things that, because I know I called

773
01:12:00,900 --> 01:12:05,380
you, but I didn't have time to call you Jamie before I came here, but I called Maria and spoke

774
01:12:05,380 --> 01:12:05,940
to her.

775
01:12:05,940 --> 01:12:06,940
Hi, good evening.

776
01:12:07,380 --> 01:12:07,440
Thanks.

777
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:07,880
I'm Maria.

778
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:09,320
Yes.

779
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:16,380
We are working very hard on trying to evaluate all our programs, all our beats on a

780
01:12:16,380 --> 01:12:21,900
base series, and looking at ways of creating revenue for all these events.

781
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:28,100
Like I said, John mentioned, we're working on different looking on a policy and ways of

782
01:12:28,100 --> 01:12:31,880
trying to create sponsorships, but that takes time.

783
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:38,380
It's not, we're not going to be able to get this together in a week or two, it will take

784
01:12:38,380 --> 01:12:39,000
a few months.

785
01:12:39,300 --> 01:12:41,360
So we are definitely working on that.

786
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:46,580
I think Jamie mentioned the policy when it comes to all the events in the park.

787
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:50,180
That policy pertains to outside organizations.

788
01:12:50,460 --> 01:12:50,760
Okay.

789
01:12:51,180 --> 01:12:56,840
It's the charitable organizations that use the park, the rotary club events, the chamber events,

790
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:58,680
any outside organization.

791
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:02,400
So that policy covers all those type of events.

792
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:09,420
The events at the parks put on, we manage them and we try to, we look at the schedules

793
01:13:09,420 --> 01:13:15,980
and we definitely try to balance the schedule and try to put these events that we offer

794
01:13:15,980 --> 01:13:18,040
in between the major events.

795
01:13:18,100 --> 01:13:21,720
So does the Beats on the Bay because ICE was helping with that?

796
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:26,140
Is that fall under the village or the not for profit?

797
01:13:26,140 --> 01:13:31,300
it's village of that okay yeah the beats on the bay is a series that was created six

798
01:13:31,300 --> 01:13:36,900
seven years ago uh-huh and it was created from the parks department asking the ice

799
01:13:36,900 --> 01:13:43,760
organization to collaborate on providing these programs for our lovely how about the

800
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:48,880
pops on the park pops on the park is a event that we co-sponsor that is a village

801
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:55,120
co-sponsor event pops in the park is free to the float in movies do you still do those

802
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,180
that's in anilamorada. That's a part of that, yep.

803
01:13:59,620 --> 01:14:02,940
And a lot of majority of the events that we put on

804
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,380
are events that range from like,

805
01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:11,220
beats on the bay range from, you know, 800 to 1500.

806
01:14:11,580 --> 01:14:15,100
Sometimes it may get to 2000, but we haven't had an event

807
01:14:15,100 --> 01:14:17,480
with 2000 beats on a bay in a year or so.

808
01:14:17,480 --> 01:14:20,420
And do you charge for parking when you do a beats on a bay

809
01:14:20,420 --> 01:14:22,300
and pops into park and that kind of stuff?

810
01:14:22,480 --> 01:14:23,960
Pops in the park is a free event.

811
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:30,200
Okay. The only event where we charge for parking is for beats on the bay, trunk or treat

812
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:38,120
event, egg hunt event. So any major event where we are having, or they're not, semi major,

813
01:14:38,740 --> 01:14:44,160
where we're having, you know, five, six hundred people, we do charge. Do you part of, during

814
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:49,680
the Fourth of July thing? Do you charge for those food trucks that are out there? That is

815
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:53,860
another collaborated event with the Rotary Club. The Rotary Club actually is a main

816
01:14:53,860 --> 01:14:59,960
sponsor for that event, we assist with that, and the road to week.

817
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:14,780
So how does the part make anything off of that? Or just spending money on that?

818
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:23,000
Not off the July 4th of that. How about any of the chamber events? Those are all.

819
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,740
The Chamber of Commerce, we do not.

820
01:15:26,260 --> 01:15:29,740
That is a, that's outside organization using the park.

821
01:15:30,180 --> 01:15:33,120
We do not collaborate with those events.

822
01:15:33,540 --> 01:15:40,460
Now, it does is still does the, the uppercase rotary clubs still pays for the park when they do the nautical market.

823
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:41,060
Correct.

824
01:15:41,060 --> 01:15:44,400
Do they do that with the, with the, with the 4th of July event as well?

825
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:45,700
No, they do not.

826
01:15:47,060 --> 01:15:47,280
Okay.

827
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:48,000
No.

828
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:56,820
the non-profits pay when they use those that list of other events, they pay for the use of the

829
01:15:56,820 --> 01:15:56,920
park.

830
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:04,880
So there is a difference between the village sponsored events and those that would overlap

831
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:09,960
the verses, the ones that are done by other organizations.

832
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:10,520
Correct.

833
01:16:10,860 --> 01:16:12,020
There's the outside room.

834
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:16,520
Within the guidelines, we're said when it comes to those.

835
01:16:17,020 --> 01:16:19,860
So the village can have as many as they want.

836
01:16:19,860 --> 01:16:20,300
Correct.

837
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,240
But with a balance.

838
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:23,180
Okay.

839
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:23,760
Yes.

840
01:16:24,500 --> 01:16:25,580
We just don't allow.

841
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:27,740
We just have to do this.

842
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:28,260
Yes.

843
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:29,980
And where do you have?

844
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,840
And we understand that we need to create them.

845
01:16:33,900 --> 01:16:35,620
With that, we balance with all these events.

846
01:16:35,780 --> 01:16:38,160
We can't have an event here every weekend.

847
01:16:38,420 --> 01:16:39,520
It's too much for the community.

848
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:43,440
The park needs to be available for the public just for regular enjoyment.

849
01:16:43,440 --> 01:16:49,400
So we, you know, that is something we definitely try to balance out.

850
01:16:51,740 --> 01:16:56,080
So you're working on trying to find, I mean, listen, if amendment three passes.

851
01:16:58,380 --> 01:17:12,520
This park is not, without having private sponsorships and without having vendor income and without having parking fees and entrance fees and all of those things.

852
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,680
Bill is not going to be able to afford to maintain this part.

853
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:16,540
Correct.

854
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,680
So we need to start thinking about that.

855
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:24,020
We are definitely, we are definitely looking out to different avenues.

856
01:17:25,220 --> 01:17:28,260
Will we ever be able to cover all the expenses?

857
01:17:29,500 --> 01:17:31,200
I don't know that.

858
01:17:32,440 --> 01:17:39,760
It's, you know, we ask a lot from our community from all our businesses already.

859
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:46,740
all the charitable organizations ask for sponsorship already, all the charitable organizations

860
01:17:46,740 --> 01:17:50,840
are constantly asking, you know, businesses for, you know, for sponsorship.

861
01:17:51,420 --> 01:17:56,200
So, but we're going to do our best, and hopefully we can create some good sponsors and

862
01:17:56,200 --> 01:18:03,780
be able to continue to offer these great programs and events because, you know, they're great

863
01:18:03,780 --> 01:18:08,500
and people enjoy themselves, they're family, family events, and that's what we're here for.

864
01:18:08,500 --> 01:18:19,960
Yeah. And that's why we're here is to provide programs and events for this park and it'll be sad not to have these programs for such a great facility.

865
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:25,080
So we're really going to do our best to make sure we, and I'll keep these programs growing.

866
01:18:25,420 --> 01:18:34,380
Sure. I just think to set a protocol of sponsorship, who goes out and gets it, how we fund it.

867
01:18:34,380 --> 01:18:36,660
I don't agree with the park should lose money,

868
01:18:36,860 --> 01:18:38,600
but we should at least try to break even.

869
01:18:38,900 --> 01:18:42,320
And the fact that we're losing $60,000 a year,

870
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:43,880
there's a problem somewhere.

871
01:18:44,300 --> 01:18:47,660
But I think this is new, and it's going to take you some time.

872
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:51,200
And if you figure out these events,

873
01:18:51,620 --> 01:18:52,960
we charge for this, charge that.

874
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:55,720
There are a lot of people in this community who will step up

875
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,200
to the plate and be a sponsor for this park.

876
01:18:58,780 --> 01:19:03,260
I mean, I run a 501C3, I ask all the time for help.

877
01:19:03,260 --> 01:19:09,500
And this is a big community, with a big heart, and I know you don't want to see things go

878
01:19:09,500 --> 01:19:14,180
or lie, but at the same time we can't put this $60,000 on the taxpayers.

879
01:19:14,660 --> 01:19:20,460
So I think it's just you finding a, you know, and also if you, if you do have suggestions

880
01:19:21,940 --> 01:19:28,320
or, you know, like an outline of how you do that, you know, doing sponsorships, because

881
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:34,300
And I say, you know, I was a village, I'm a facility, I'm a municipality, we never had to do that.

882
01:19:34,740 --> 01:19:40,460
I was never tasked with my go-home career here, having to go out and look for sponsorship for money.

883
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:42,880
And that's, and I'll not be something new to me.

884
01:19:43,060 --> 01:19:45,980
And I'm new to Annie and I, and I was like, that's helped take time.

885
01:19:46,660 --> 01:19:51,700
And, you know, I'm a big mouture, so, you know, I move off everybody from my rescue.

886
01:19:51,700 --> 01:19:58,260
And so I know it's it is time consuming. It's a hard thing, but you'll find once you

887
01:19:58,260 --> 01:20:04,240
Establish that this is such a great thing. We do hear the people will support you and I'd be more than glad to see

888
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:05,400
I'm willing to

889
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:12,220
Meetings or whatever we need to do to get it going, but because I we definitely don't want to see these events

890
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:16,660
Not happening because I agree, so thank you

891
01:20:17,220 --> 01:20:18,400
Can we make sure that?

892
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:26,980
Yeah, but can we make sure also that that is maybe something that's brought up at the next Parks and Rec committee meetings so that that can be discussed

893
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:31,140
We'll put that on the agenda. Yeah, yeah

894
01:20:31,140 --> 01:20:34,480
To get their input and their suggestions on how to move forward

895
01:20:34,480 --> 01:20:38,580
We probably have people in your committee who would step up to the plate and go out

896
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:44,560
And that's what it's going to take more than just our department, you know, to do it. It's going to have

897
01:20:46,860 --> 01:20:48,040
Thank you very

898
01:20:52,260 --> 01:20:52,940
much.

899
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:56,680
Is there any direction to change anything in that budget after that conversation?

900
01:20:57,820 --> 01:20:58,660
It's deep.

901
01:20:59,480 --> 01:21:08,440
I just have, I'd like some clarification on the reimbursement to the school district under utilities for the specifically like the baseball field.

902
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:13,040
I think that there needs to be some clarification on really asking on behalf of Jamie.

903
01:21:13,260 --> 01:21:14,600
This is something that she pointed out.

904
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:20,340
I think to all of us that we don't really have a clarification in terms of what we're responsible

905
01:21:20,340 --> 01:21:26,400
for on the our property that the school district is going to be leasing, we're hearing

906
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:32,240
about an annual grooming now of sweeping the field, who's responsible for that.

907
01:21:32,500 --> 01:21:37,700
I think that I'd just like to know a little bit more specifics on what our responsibility

908
01:21:38,170 --> 01:21:39,780
is going to be there.

909
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:55,800
Well, I spoke to Maria about that this morning, or this afternoon also, and she was in an agreement that she believed that that annual grooming is part of the school districts fees or whatever that they have to pay.

910
01:21:56,060 --> 01:21:57,360
Do they believe that?

911
01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:58,900
That's up to him to.

912
01:21:58,900 --> 01:21:59,160
Yes.

913
01:21:59,960 --> 01:22:06,720
We've told him repeatedly that our staff, once artificial turf is in there, is not going to be in charge of grooming it.

914
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:11,940
the actual cost we've been going back and forth because Mr. Fears gone, but I've told

915
01:22:11,940 --> 01:22:15,260
them as soon as they know that the cost actually are. Now they have identified their vendor

916
01:22:15,260 --> 01:22:19,780
which is a asset or we need more specifics for what's the exact grooming for that particular

917
01:22:19,780 --> 01:22:24,820
turf, what is the cost, et cetera, what is the type of care. So they have not given us those

918
01:22:24,820 --> 01:22:29,500
figures, but they're still, I guess, getting them together. But as soon as we get them, we'll

919
01:22:29,500 --> 01:22:29,960
share it with them.

920
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:54,880
I've asked that several times, as far as what is actually going to cost us. But we made it clear, our employees are to stay off that field, because we don't want to violate the warranty, we don't want to do the wrong thing, and so they're going to have a company that specifically does that. And when it's off season, we'll take up whatever we're sure it shouldn't be that much, but whatever it is, it will be our share, but during season, it's definitely theirs, and then off season, it shouldn't be that much.

921
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:56,460
They'll still be doing the care.

922
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:58,500
We may have to pay some portion of that,

923
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:00,780
but I don't anticipate being a lot of money.

924
01:23:02,570 --> 01:23:04,490
Steve, I just don't like the idea

925
01:23:04,490 --> 01:23:06,210
we're going to have to pay some portion of it.

926
01:23:06,670 --> 01:23:07,270
And we don't know.

927
01:23:07,410 --> 01:23:11,250
Do we want to invite Jamie up to ask some specific questions

928
01:23:11,250 --> 01:23:13,530
or is she done with her public comment?

929
01:23:14,110 --> 01:23:14,890
Come on, Jamie.

930
01:23:16,090 --> 01:23:16,890
Putting on the spot.

931
01:23:18,610 --> 01:23:21,530
So the school district, when we decided to do the turf

932
01:23:21,530 --> 01:23:23,330
field, which is great, is going in.

933
01:23:23,330 --> 01:23:26,190
Hopefully, we're going to have that done, give the rain.

934
01:23:27,290 --> 01:23:30,250
They said we were going to take it from the $48,000,

935
01:23:30,550 --> 01:23:33,910
which we were told is what it was costing us, basically,

936
01:23:35,030 --> 01:23:37,330
year to $6,000 a year.

937
01:23:37,810 --> 01:23:40,030
And obviously, we know that that is not true.

938
01:23:40,730 --> 01:23:43,350
Because the $48,000 a year, and I've

939
01:23:43,350 --> 01:23:46,550
been pointing this out forever, included what Maria, again,

940
01:23:46,630 --> 01:23:47,210
put together.

941
01:23:47,530 --> 01:23:51,770
It was the water, the supplies, the labor, even though they

942
01:23:51,770 --> 01:23:56,730
maybe do in the turf, Maria's people still have to take care of what the bathrooms and the

943
01:23:56,730 --> 01:24:01,690
toilet paper and the paper towels and the garbage clean up and the weeding around the

944
01:24:01,690 --> 01:24:06,930
bleachers and so there's still labor supplies and materials that are there that we don't

945
01:24:06,930 --> 01:24:12,610
have a number on, but those were kind of in last year's budget, but now that we know that

946
01:24:12,610 --> 01:24:21,130
the $4,500 that Mr. Allen, I guess, sent to Ron, that includes the annual look over the

947
01:24:21,130 --> 01:24:27,070
field. Well, I'm presuming we have to figure out when's that annual going to happen. And

948
01:24:27,070 --> 01:24:31,250
are we going to be responsible? Is that going to get split? Seven months, five months,

949
01:24:31,370 --> 01:24:36,910
however, months that. And then there is obviously additional stuff that has to be done on

950
01:24:36,910 --> 01:24:42,890
the field, which, again, Mr. Allen responded in his email three times a week off season,

951
01:24:42,890 --> 01:24:49,210
I guess in season one time a week off season, there's grooming and stuff. Again, who

952
01:24:49,210 --> 01:24:54,930
is the school district going to hire to do that? How much are they going to charge to do that?

953
01:24:55,190 --> 01:25:02,610
And the village is responsible for seven months worth of that. And the school district is going

954
01:25:02,610 --> 01:25:08,270
to take care of the five that they have it. So it is an open question. And it is, I think, an

955
01:25:08,270 --> 01:25:15,570
important question, because even looking at the budget right now that's on there, we had

956
01:25:15,570 --> 01:25:19,890
what a $20,000, $24,000 budget last year,

957
01:25:20,250 --> 01:25:23,030
wasn't, but now we're up to $30,000,

958
01:25:23,030 --> 01:25:24,930
and that's just for water and utilities

959
01:25:24,930 --> 01:25:27,450
as a reimbursement to the school district.

960
01:25:28,190 --> 01:25:30,330
So it's actually gone up $6,000,

961
01:25:30,530 --> 01:25:32,690
it has gone $26,000.

962
01:25:33,550 --> 01:25:35,770
So that was just my question on it,

963
01:25:35,890 --> 01:25:38,150
is I think there's, you know,

964
01:25:38,350 --> 01:25:39,690
and that's not Maria's fault.

965
01:25:40,510 --> 01:25:42,190
That's the school district, basically.

966
01:25:42,190 --> 01:25:49,110
I think needs to tell us what those expenses are if we're just trying to put a budget together

967
01:25:49,110 --> 01:25:49,950
for parks.

968
01:25:50,670 --> 01:25:57,570
She can't guess we need numbers, and I know Mr. Will Fear left, but somebody's got to get

969
01:25:57,570 --> 01:26:03,950
going with us because what if they come back and tell us it's going to cost us $20,000 just

970
01:26:03,950 --> 01:26:06,150
for our portion of the maintenance?

971
01:26:07,050 --> 01:26:12,030
Ron, between now and our next budget meeting, will you be able to get those numbers for us?

972
01:26:12,610 --> 01:26:13,870
I'll continue to ask for them.

973
01:26:15,510 --> 01:26:18,650
I'll talk to Mr. Terney, because he's supposedly his taken over.

974
01:26:19,110 --> 01:26:20,590
They didn't replace Mr. Lafaire.

975
01:26:21,290 --> 01:26:25,370
And when I asked him to replace him, I was told by the staff that was out there,

976
01:26:25,690 --> 01:26:29,030
starting that there was tyranny, was who they were reporting to.

977
01:26:29,170 --> 01:26:29,770
That's yes.

978
01:26:29,850 --> 01:26:34,370
I would think that Terney is the person for you to get that information from.

979
01:26:34,370 --> 01:26:35,530
That's what I was told.

980
01:26:35,790 --> 01:26:38,410
Adam Needing, I guess, but I don't know what day it was,

981
01:26:38,470 --> 01:26:40,810
but they met this week and he was tired

982
01:26:40,810 --> 01:26:43,030
before them, but he and I was just to talk on next week.

983
01:26:43,290 --> 01:26:47,010
It didn't make sense to me that there would be an increase

984
01:26:47,010 --> 01:26:50,370
in water and a rural electricity since we're not

985
01:26:50,370 --> 01:26:52,050
having a water grass any more.

986
01:26:54,390 --> 01:27:00,010
I would say weeding around the reading in that area

987
01:27:00,010 --> 01:27:07,730
anywhere in there is still going to be, whether they were there or not, we would still be

988
01:27:07,730 --> 01:27:14,490
doing that. That's not what the big deal is, the increases that we're seeing when we really

989
01:27:14,490 --> 01:27:19,070
felt that there was going to be a decrease. Steve, you look like you're one of both.

990
01:27:19,650 --> 01:27:24,950
I guess I'm just thinking that we've got more negotiating to do coming up, and I think that

991
01:27:24,950 --> 01:27:29,890
these are some of those specifics either. We can roll these into that negotiation or sort

992
01:27:29,890 --> 01:27:32,870
out prior, so I'm not really sure how we want to do it.

993
01:27:32,990 --> 01:27:37,610
And we're looking at these as projections, but we do need to fine-tune those, and we need

994
01:27:37,610 --> 01:27:45,310
to understand those numbers, and we can only hope that those numbers are over-projected,

995
01:27:46,470 --> 01:27:52,610
that there is that they do assume the responsibility of many of those things, and if they're

996
01:27:52,610 --> 01:27:59,570
picking the cattle lack of a guide to go out there and sweep that grass, when we can find

997
01:27:59,570 --> 01:28:02,770
somebody that understands that grass, it could do a much less.

998
01:28:02,850 --> 01:28:09,070
We shouldn't have to pay that extra fee that they've chosen because they've got the unlimited

999
01:28:09,070 --> 01:28:12,550
bucket of money and we don't.

1000
01:28:12,550 --> 01:28:18,690
Yes, I just asked AI what an annual maintenance cost for a turf field for a baseball field.

1001
01:28:19,110 --> 01:28:24,610
And it says synthetic turf baseball field typically costs between 7,023,000 annually

1002
01:28:25,350 --> 01:28:30,490
for the Ilamara climate, a practical operating budget is about 20,000 per year.

1003
01:28:31,190 --> 01:28:35,090
For grooming, cleaning, infill, seam repairs, testing, labor, and equipment.

1004
01:28:36,590 --> 01:28:40,430
Okay, was that from Proplexity, or was that from Jack?

1005
01:28:40,490 --> 01:28:41,190
Co-pilot?

1006
01:28:41,730 --> 01:28:42,350
No, okay.

1007
01:28:42,570 --> 01:28:43,690
That's not even cleaning.

1008
01:28:43,930 --> 01:28:44,490
Get water in here.

1009
01:28:45,690 --> 01:28:45,830
Yeah.

1010
01:28:46,310 --> 01:28:48,410
And I was going to...

1011
01:28:48,410 --> 01:28:54,590
In again, Mr. LaShare was never really telling us the truth, when he's

1012
01:28:54,590 --> 01:29:04,790
stood up there. I mean, the contract with this astroturf is once a year. And so it's not

1013
01:29:04,790 --> 01:29:10,050
like we're getting a monthly service. That's where we have to come in. Or the school board

1014
01:29:10,050 --> 01:29:16,450
has to come in. Yes, the school board. Hopefully. And so there is water involved in it and

1015
01:29:16,450 --> 01:29:21,650
maintenance every week. And like I said, for him to stand up there and say 6,000, that was

1016
01:29:21,650 --> 01:29:23,950
We all know how that happened.

1017
01:29:24,270 --> 01:29:26,210
Yes, ma'am.

1018
01:29:26,590 --> 01:29:26,690
Okay.

1019
01:29:26,910 --> 01:29:27,590
Thank you, Eddie.

1020
01:29:28,130 --> 01:29:30,070
Anything else on this item?

1021
01:29:30,270 --> 01:29:31,110
Thank you, Steve.

1022
01:29:32,490 --> 01:29:35,630
Do I have any direction to change anything before we move forward?

1023
01:29:36,350 --> 01:29:41,750
No, I think there are projections at this point and I think that the direction is for our manager

1024
01:29:41,750 --> 01:29:42,630
to find two.

1025
01:29:42,770 --> 01:29:45,230
These and get these numbers to us.

1026
01:29:45,830 --> 01:29:46,390
So.

1027
01:29:46,690 --> 01:29:46,970
Okay.

1028
01:29:49,170 --> 01:29:51,190
Vanna, are you clicking forward?

1029
01:29:51,570 --> 01:29:52,150
I guess.

1030
01:29:54,610 --> 01:29:56,390
You didn't know my heart was pointing backwards.

1031
01:30:02,970 --> 01:30:08,950
Tab 3 is the special revenue funds. Tab 3-1 is impact fee fund.

1032
01:30:11,190 --> 01:30:14,170
The only change I have there is I increase the transfer

1033
01:30:14,170 --> 01:30:19,010
out to the capital projects fund for the safe streets for all projects.

1034
01:30:23,230 --> 01:30:26,070
I increase the transfer out to the capital

1035
01:30:26,070 --> 01:30:29,750
projects fund for the safe streets for all project.

1036
01:30:33,430 --> 01:30:35,170
You'll see that reflected under the cap.

1037
01:30:38,230 --> 01:30:40,630
Next time is solid waste.

1038
01:30:45,780 --> 01:30:52,200
I looked at the assessments as far as the amount of CEOs that we've had.

1039
01:30:52,380 --> 01:30:55,700
So I increased that a little bit so the revenue has increased like $1,600.

1040
01:30:56,500 --> 01:31:02,500
There was a decrease in the transfer from general fund so that did help our fund balance

1041
01:31:02,500 --> 01:31:11,140
a little bit, around $62,000, small increase in first and all expense in a decrease

1042
01:31:11,140 --> 01:31:22,090
in professional services based on the approved contract and a very small decrease in insurance.

1043
01:31:24,170 --> 01:31:28,390
So overall, a decrease of 121,684 dollars.

1044
01:31:36,500 --> 01:31:38,660
Next tab is transportation fund.

1045
01:31:42,300 --> 01:31:45,440
Again, we received the numbers from the state.

1046
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:47,540
So the first and second local option fuel tax,

1047
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:49,160
I updated those revenue amounts.

1048
01:31:49,900 --> 01:31:53,120
It was a total increase of $74,108.

1049
01:31:54,420 --> 01:31:57,820
There was a decrease in transfer from general funds.

1050
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:01,660
Another area where that helped the general fund.

1051
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:07,880
And then a small increase in the public work spread way allocation.

1052
01:32:15,270 --> 01:32:17,910
Before you flip the page, can I ask you a question?

1053
01:32:18,030 --> 01:32:18,210
Sure.

1054
01:32:18,410 --> 01:32:19,570
On the transportation.

1055
01:32:20,510 --> 01:32:28,110
Have you factored in for freebie the money that we were supposed to get because they liked us?

1056
01:32:28,110 --> 01:32:29,290
We got the contract.

1057
01:32:29,290 --> 01:32:33,710
I did not include that as a revenue to be safe.

1058
01:32:34,290 --> 01:32:36,050
But are we pursuing that?

1059
01:32:36,050 --> 01:32:36,510
one.

1060
01:32:37,910 --> 01:32:40,430
Well, we're going to.

1061
01:32:40,430 --> 01:32:41,030
Wake up.

1062
01:32:41,390 --> 01:32:43,150
Say you're talking about the fear that we're

1063
01:32:43,150 --> 01:32:43,170
having.

1064
01:32:44,310 --> 01:32:49,990
And all that we need to pursue that because trust me, they're not going to give it to us without us asking them.

1065
01:32:50,830 --> 01:32:52,550
And so that's not in here.

1066
01:32:52,850 --> 01:32:53,970
That is not in here.

1067
01:32:54,110 --> 01:32:55,450
It will be great if it is.

1068
01:32:56,070 --> 01:32:58,450
If we do end up getting revenue, that will decrease.

1069
01:32:59,210 --> 01:33:01,670
It shouldn't be transfer from general funds, so that'll helping them.

1070
01:33:01,830 --> 01:33:02,790
If we get revenue.

1071
01:33:02,790 --> 01:33:08,150
When we get revenue, the fair road, they collect the effect of July 1.

1072
01:33:08,190 --> 01:33:15,130
I'm not talking to just the fair, I'm talking to the advertising and plus the money they were just going to give us the 75,000

1073
01:33:15,130 --> 01:33:22,150
because they'd like us, you know, John Marotta, I just want to make sure that's, we get it.

1074
01:33:22,510 --> 01:33:28,210
I've scheduled a meeting with Jason with the free beef, I think, for next week, we're going to talk about all these things.

1075
01:33:29,190 --> 01:33:33,490
I remember I brought up last week about advertising, that's still not clear, but we will

1076
01:33:33,490 --> 01:33:38,410
or won't agree to, but these other things are on the table, too, because they want to.

1077
01:33:38,470 --> 01:33:42,570
I tell me it's already time for us to maybe look at the contract and make some changes because

1078
01:33:42,570 --> 01:33:44,550
things are going on, so he understands.

1079
01:33:45,830 --> 01:33:51,790
Are there, is there any chance of putting in this transportation fund revenues for, or

1080
01:33:51,790 --> 01:34:03,730
is that go under permits when our public works departments start staying on top of permit

1081
01:34:03,730 --> 01:34:07,110
fees for cutting crossing roads?

1082
01:34:09,870 --> 01:34:13,450
You mean like a reimbursement for pay?

1083
01:34:13,450 --> 01:34:18,630
Well, actually we'd be part of a permit fee that would go to public works, public works

1084
01:34:18,630 --> 01:34:28,710
right now charges permit fees for cutting, for the public doing work on our roads. Is there

1085
01:34:28,710 --> 01:34:33,110
anywhere in here that we see those permit fees in this, it would be under the General

1086
01:34:33,110 --> 01:34:39,410
Fund revenue. It would be under the General Fund revenue. It would go in, so that it pays

1087
01:34:39,410 --> 01:34:47,050
for the maintenance on the roads. The way that the public works department works is there's

1088
01:34:47,050 --> 01:34:54,950
calculation for the 65% of the how they get the anything that goes into repairing the

1089
01:34:54,950 --> 01:34:58,330
roads and the transportation and then there's a transfer done.

1090
01:34:58,650 --> 01:34:58,710
Okay.

1091
01:35:01,790 --> 01:35:05,290
I can get more detailed information for you on that if you'd like.

1092
01:35:06,490 --> 01:35:06,930
Thank you.

1093
01:35:07,130 --> 01:35:07,830
Mm-hmm.

1094
01:35:14,370 --> 01:35:15,310
Affordable housing fund.

1095
01:35:15,410 --> 01:35:16,170
There were no changes.

1096
01:35:25,900 --> 01:35:26,420
Building fund.

1097
01:35:26,540 --> 01:35:27,320
There were no changes.

1098
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:43,260
tab 4 is the debt service fund. No changes there. Looking forward to paying off some of the loans.

1099
01:35:43,820 --> 01:35:45,260
This is coming here.

1100
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:49,880
We're paying off too.

1101
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:56,720
Any questions on debt service?

1102
01:36:02,410 --> 01:36:04,650
Tab 5 is capital projects.

1103
01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:22,180
We received the amount for discretionary sales tax.

1104
01:36:22,820 --> 01:36:24,780
It was an increase last year.

1105
01:36:24,780 --> 01:36:28,200
only got about 3.3 million this year we got 3.5.

1106
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:36,430
Other than that you'll see a change in fund balance

1107
01:36:36,430 --> 01:36:43,490
because I updated some of the actuals for the revenues on this year so that kind of shows you

1108
01:36:43,490 --> 01:36:51,450
more of what the fund balance will look like next year beginning at 10.126. Other than that the changes

1109
01:36:51,450 --> 01:36:57,110
that I've made are transfer in from the transportation fund for the safe streets for all.

1110
01:36:59,170 --> 01:37:07,830
decreased the transfer in from transportation fund for the heritage trail, reduced the use

1111
01:37:07,830 --> 01:37:17,950
of fund balance, removed the sculpture for 11,000, increased the land acquisition by 15,000,

1112
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:21,500
increased the fire rescue budget,

1113
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:26,820
by moving the boat lift that was approved last fiscal year

1114
01:37:26,820 --> 01:37:29,240
and just putting it over into this fiscal year.

1115
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:39,860
And then I increase the safe streets for all expenditure, because it's actually 400,000 for the total

1116
01:37:39,860 --> 01:37:45,700
projects. So you need to actually put the total amount in there, even if we don't spend it this fiscal

1117
01:37:45,700 --> 01:37:50,500
year, which I think is what's going to happen. It's going to end up being 200 this year, 200 next year.

1118
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:55,580
But

1119
01:37:55,580 --> 01:38:02,580
conceptual design for public works by 50,000, and we reduced the village hall improvement by 200,000.

1120
01:38:03,700 --> 01:38:09,180
The one thing I did miss is removing the $20,000 for the art wall installation.

1121
01:38:09,480 --> 01:38:12,280
I will remove that and make sure it's off of the next book.

1122
01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:17,000
So you took the 50,000 off of the public works building, correct?

1123
01:38:18,140 --> 01:38:18,620
Yes.

1124
01:38:19,700 --> 01:38:22,440
You did or did you say that was reduced to 250,000?

1125
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:28,840
I reduced the public works conceptual design to $50,000 down to $50.

1126
01:38:28,860 --> 01:38:30,440
I thought we were going to take it off.

1127
01:38:31,540 --> 01:38:32,760
You know, I wasn't thinking.

1128
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:36,480
I know, but there's been discussion not to do it at all.

1129
01:38:37,780 --> 01:38:40,940
I thought we left some in.

1130
01:38:41,100 --> 01:38:41,560
We did.

1131
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:44,060
But I want to, I thought it was a figure out.

1132
01:38:44,380 --> 01:38:45,900
Do we really need to do that?

1133
01:38:46,260 --> 01:38:47,880
So you've reduced it from $250.

1134
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:49,980
Because to $50,000.

1135
01:38:49,980 --> 01:38:54,060
I would like to see that area replanted as we talked about.

1136
01:38:54,540 --> 01:38:55,660
Can we have a J-Trace?

1137
01:38:56,100 --> 01:38:57,520
It wasn't specific to the Hill.

1138
01:38:57,860 --> 01:38:58,940
I think that's what you're referring to.

1139
01:38:59,440 --> 01:38:59,500
Yes.

1140
01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:00,940
Can you talk about the Hill?

1141
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:02,280
They'd like to talk to you.

1142
01:39:02,340 --> 01:39:05,260
You could do that in our lane-staking fund.

1143
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:06,020
They made sure.

1144
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:07,680
Yeah.

1145
01:39:09,180 --> 01:39:10,800
Can you just sort out for us?

1146
01:39:11,060 --> 01:39:13,900
Because it's a little scary when it says under public works building,

1147
01:39:14,620 --> 01:39:16,340
PWD conceptual design.

1148
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:17,900
And you just tell us what that is.

1149
01:39:17,900 --> 01:39:21,500
50,000 reduced from 100, right?

1150
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:24,100
Two, from, correct.

1151
01:39:24,420 --> 01:39:25,120
Yeah, it was 100.

1152
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:26,520
Down to, to fit.

1153
01:39:26,700 --> 01:39:27,400
Down to $50,000.

1154
01:39:27,420 --> 01:39:29,140
Not down to $250,000.

1155
01:39:32,180 --> 01:39:33,620
It's $50,000.

1156
01:39:33,900 --> 01:39:34,160
It's $50,000.

1157
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:34,680
It's $50,000.

1158
01:39:34,780 --> 01:39:34,860
It's $50,000.

1159
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:38,920
And a figure out that one word that explains the place.

1160
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:40,280
Yeah.

1161
01:39:40,440 --> 01:39:41,720
So what is it?

1162
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:42,560
What is it?

1163
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:43,300
What do you need it?

1164
01:39:44,980 --> 01:39:53,620
So it's, there's been talk for, I've been here ten and a half years now and for ten and a half years we've been trying to find a spot for public works.

1165
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:56,360
Sorry my voice is partially gone.

1166
01:39:57,480 --> 01:40:03,300
But they want to remove, it's been talk that remove public works from Founders Park.

1167
01:40:05,340 --> 01:40:08,520
Founders Park, Main and Staff and Public Works.

1168
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:13,280
Public Works have a lot of shared uses, shared building, shared equipment, shared things.

1169
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:19,680
There's been talks of moving me, other locations, one was the hill, off-site, whatever that may be.

1170
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:27,140
But the 50,000 is to discuss in really pinpoint conceptually what that would look like,

1171
01:40:27,140 --> 01:40:34,640
whether it's here another location, whatever that may be, and to provide some options to find feasible locations.

1172
01:40:35,420 --> 01:40:40,460
I think that can, I think, well, it's budgeted, it's not spent.

1173
01:40:40,460 --> 01:40:50,340
And it's going to come to us before we spend it, so we'll, yeah, I just don't think somebody needs to get 50,000 dollars to find a place for that.

1174
01:40:50,760 --> 01:41:07,480
Right. But I understand the idea that I think AJ spoke to me about how Monroe County had built a building for their public works that was ill-conceived and ill-planned so that what they wanted to put in there, everything didn't fit.

1175
01:41:07,480 --> 01:41:13,440
So, I think I appreciate the idea of this, and I think we all can read that we really need

1176
01:41:13,440 --> 01:41:20,060
to work hard on trying to find a suitable place for places to get these public works and

1177
01:41:20,060 --> 01:41:23,380
also to be more efficient in terms of how they move things.

1178
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:27,900
So even just one central area, even if we had a giant place where we could put everything,

1179
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:31,520
isn't really the best solution for him and his equipment, right?

1180
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:32,420
So, correct.

1181
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:39,680
But we currently operate mainly out of founder's part, but I do have Southern crews, part

1182
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:40,580
of our operations.

1183
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:46,420
We have to play with the waste station, moving equipment from one side to the other.

1184
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:50,080
We have to go through the waste station every single time, which is makes it any efficient.

1185
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:58,360
So moving large equipment, our bobcats, the man lift, dump trucks, things like that,

1186
01:41:58,520 --> 01:41:59,560
deliveries as well.

1187
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:03,400
So having separate locations makes it more efficient.

1188
01:42:04,700 --> 01:42:12,040
But again, we utilize, we're very closely with the park staff here.

1189
01:42:12,900 --> 01:42:17,020
And a lot of that equipment that is here is utilized by the park as well.

1190
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:21,480
So it coming and going would also impact their operations as well.

1191
01:42:22,260 --> 01:42:23,940
But there's a lot.

1192
01:42:24,100 --> 01:42:27,540
I like it here, so I can count all of the trucks you have every holiday.

1193
01:42:28,340 --> 01:42:34,540
And just drive there and know, see if we've got a new and back there or not, makes it easy for me.

1194
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:37,520
Yes, Deb.

1195
01:42:37,980 --> 01:42:43,280
So you said it was inefficient with the waste station only because of time, right?

1196
01:42:43,540 --> 01:42:43,860
Correct.

1197
01:42:44,020 --> 01:42:49,300
It makes time and then I also have to have certain personnel with CDLs to move that equipment.

1198
01:42:50,180 --> 01:42:51,960
And you would have to have them either way.

1199
01:42:52,480 --> 01:42:58,460
If we're moving it, if you're going one way, but if we're moving some of that equipment from founders that they're utilizing,

1200
01:42:58,460 --> 01:43:03,460
they do not have staff that have CDL. So we would have to provide and move that equipment

1201
01:43:03,460 --> 01:43:05,840
for them and to bring it back here.

1202
01:43:07,220 --> 01:43:13,520
Okay, and if you have two locations then you need two sets of equipment. If you want on the

1203
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:18,580
north side of the waste station and one on the south side and then you have to have double the equipment.

1204
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:21,940
I wouldn't need double the equipment if we have to.

1205
01:43:21,940 --> 01:43:23,920
Well not every piece, not every piece.

1206
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:26,040
Our larger equipment, that's why we have shared.

1207
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:27,740
We use it in wastewater as well.

1208
01:43:27,900 --> 01:43:28,820
We'll use it in public works.

1209
01:43:28,940 --> 01:43:31,120
We use it with the park maintenance.

1210
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:36,100
But having a shared office space, shared maintenance

1211
01:43:36,100 --> 01:43:38,840
building, shared things, if we separate from each other,

1212
01:43:39,140 --> 01:43:40,720
we would now have two of those buildings

1213
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:43,620
of the exact same thing as well.

1214
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:46,440
I understand that.

1215
01:43:46,780 --> 01:43:49,060
I was getting at the point of the fact that you

1216
01:43:49,060 --> 01:43:51,320
have the equipment located at two places

1217
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:54,120
that you can't share it anymore.

1218
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:59,040
correct that it could be shared if it would just be an efficient as far as sharing we'd

1219
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:02,560
have to our guys would have to keep bringing it back and forth yes. Yeah.

1220
01:44:09,180 --> 01:44:09,740
Okay.

1221
01:44:15,010 --> 01:44:15,630
The only

1222
01:44:15,630 --> 01:44:20,970
other reduction is the public work or not the public work sorry. The village hall improvements

1223
01:44:20,970 --> 01:44:32,810
we reduced to $200,000, $200,000, $200,000, $200,000, $200,000, $200,000, $200,000

1224
01:44:34,530 --> 01:44:42,510
And that would include the spalling repair, the painting, the air conditioner, and carpet, and anything else.

1225
01:44:43,070 --> 01:44:44,310
Yes, hopefully.

1226
01:44:46,010 --> 01:44:50,870
But that carpet or the stuff in there is going, we're going to change that out.

1227
01:44:51,150 --> 01:44:53,290
If we can afford it with that budget.

1228
01:44:55,310 --> 01:44:59,830
And this building was built in 2007, 2008.

1229
01:45:08,780 --> 01:45:13,000
That's basically all the original stuff is what we're talking about, okay?

1230
01:45:21,260 --> 01:45:27,480
Other than that, there's no changes to the capital. Other than that.

1231
01:45:29,780 --> 01:45:32,080
Top six enterprise funds,

1232
01:45:38,540 --> 01:45:43,700
Puyage Marina Fund, the big change would be the $100,000 transfer

1233
01:45:43,700 --> 01:45:45,800
to general funds,

1234
01:45:48,490 --> 01:45:52,130
other than that, the only thing that has been adjusted is the personal

1235
01:45:52,130 --> 01:45:54,430
expense, like the rest of the accounts.

1236
01:45:55,190 --> 01:45:59,910
I know several slips out there that have been vacant for quite some time, and we've talked

1237
01:45:59,910 --> 01:46:07,630
several times about there being a backlog or a list of people that want to get in there.

1238
01:46:08,230 --> 01:46:13,030
Are there people that actually rent those faces and don't park there both there?

1239
01:46:13,490 --> 01:46:14,330
Or are they just gone down there?

1240
01:46:14,330 --> 01:46:19,130
I think sometimes they do, they deserve it, even though they're not there, so it's

1241
01:46:19,130 --> 01:46:20,690
ready for them when they get there.

1242
01:46:21,590 --> 01:46:29,290
Outside of that, I know that the list that they have is for the annual, not for the transient.

1243
01:46:29,290 --> 01:46:32,210
And the annuals, I think, are all full.

1244
01:46:32,630 --> 01:46:36,570
So some of those may be for transient larger boats as well.

1245
01:46:38,900 --> 01:46:38,960
Yeah.

1246
01:46:39,100 --> 01:46:44,860
Well, maybe we ought to put a permanent there if we've got a list instead of working

1247
01:46:44,860 --> 01:46:48,400
about and fill those faces up.

1248
01:46:48,620 --> 01:46:52,250
I mean, it'd be more revenue.

1249
01:46:52,530 --> 01:46:55,450
You know, worrying about somebody coming and waiting for a transient.

1250
01:46:57,910 --> 01:47:00,930
Or maybe you can even work out a...

1251
01:47:02,470 --> 01:47:10,730
We need to run that marine like a business and if it's sitting there empty all of the time because we're waiting on somebody to be transient

1252
01:47:10,730 --> 01:47:14,890
Well, we've got a list of folks that are willing to pay for it to be there.

1253
01:47:14,910 --> 01:47:20,510
We're losing that revenue while we're waiting on somebody to come pay us. That makes no sense.

1254
01:47:21,090 --> 01:47:30,270
It would be interesting to see if you could offer that to the next person on the list to say you can stay here until we start getting increase on a transient for a night or two

1255
01:47:30,270 --> 01:47:37,730
are you willing to then bump out, or this is available for transient, if we charge the

1256
01:47:37,730 --> 01:47:42,130
transient more, but if you want it full time, we'll charge you the same rate that we

1257
01:47:42,130 --> 01:47:48,070
would with the transient and park yourself in there. Come on, bring it on. Because if it's

1258
01:47:48,070 --> 01:47:53,030
a list, it's a list and there's a demand. Apparently there's not a demand for the transient

1259
01:47:53,030 --> 01:48:00,250
as much. I've driven by there for the past several weekends and I keep noticing these empty spots

1260
01:48:00,250 --> 01:48:08,810
and I'm wondering what transients, I'm sorry, transients is seasonal like moto rooms and

1261
01:48:08,810 --> 01:48:16,530
are businesses. And they charge more, right? Monthly three, they probably charge more for the

1262
01:48:16,530 --> 01:48:22,170
transient. Yes. Well, see if somebody really wants to get themselves in their full time.

1263
01:48:22,290 --> 01:48:29,230
Yes, there could be a difference in the way the taxes are collected, because on a transient

1264
01:48:29,230 --> 01:48:31,350
you have to collect a different type of leave.

1265
01:48:31,530 --> 01:48:32,770
I don't know whether it's true or not.

1266
01:48:32,790 --> 01:48:34,390
But if they're not transient anymore,

1267
01:48:34,550 --> 01:48:36,810
and we've signed it, we've brought a permanent in where

1268
01:48:36,810 --> 01:48:38,170
they're transient, it's not.

1269
01:48:38,670 --> 01:48:41,290
Then we are not going to have to pay that extra.

1270
01:48:41,490 --> 01:48:43,630
I don't know the license difference.

1271
01:48:44,210 --> 01:48:47,550
I can't, Anna Motel, you can't just say,

1272
01:48:47,630 --> 01:48:51,070
oh, no, I want that as a permanent now.

1273
01:48:52,110 --> 01:48:53,610
You're not supposed to do that.

1274
01:48:54,010 --> 01:48:55,650
Ron, can you look into that, please?

1275
01:48:55,650 --> 01:48:59,670
And have an answer for us at the next week.

1276
01:49:03,700 --> 01:49:05,440
All right, let's move on.

1277
01:49:05,620 --> 01:49:07,060
Okay, it's not a bad idea.

1278
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:08,760
It's not a bad idea to look at it.

1279
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:10,440
No, we want to believe that.

1280
01:49:14,900 --> 01:49:16,940
Any other Marina questions?

1281
01:49:27,050 --> 01:49:27,230
No.

1282
01:49:27,790 --> 01:49:27,810
Okay.

1283
01:49:28,250 --> 01:49:28,830
Moving along, Tim.

1284
01:49:29,470 --> 01:49:30,490
Maybe just one more.

1285
01:49:30,650 --> 01:49:33,830
Can we just do it open season on it,

1286
01:49:33,910 --> 01:49:36,710
want a removal and just let anybody with a good

1287
01:49:36,710 --> 01:49:38,450
pallet gun come out here.

1288
01:49:38,450 --> 01:49:42,210
You know, when we started doing that, we got phone calls.

1289
01:49:42,350 --> 01:49:47,850
There's people walking around the park with guns, we did.

1290
01:49:47,970 --> 01:49:51,770
Just kidding, I don't know.

1291
01:49:52,090 --> 01:49:53,330
Yes, monster.

1292
01:49:54,770 --> 01:49:57,150
I shot a five footer out of my tree yesterday.

1293
01:49:59,770 --> 01:50:00,610
A Q mainly.

1294
01:50:01,450 --> 01:50:01,910
Mind you.

1295
01:50:02,290 --> 01:50:02,830
One shot.

1296
01:50:03,390 --> 01:50:04,170
Yes, please.

1297
01:50:04,830 --> 01:50:05,910
Right where balloons.

1298
01:50:07,630 --> 01:50:07,850
OK.

1299
01:50:09,450 --> 01:50:20,390
Moving along to the wastewater fund with the approved increase for the wastewater service

1300
01:50:20,390 --> 01:50:25,870
charge of 6% I went back and adjusted the wastewater service charge revenue so that's

1301
01:50:25,870 --> 01:50:34,250
been increased by $378,000. And then also with the insurance there was also another

1302
01:50:34,250 --> 01:50:38,050
reduction of $59,420 from that budget.

1303
01:50:38,550 --> 01:50:42,990
So we're getting closer to being balanced, not quite, but.

1304
01:50:43,110 --> 01:50:47,110
That increase of 378 was calculated by the anticipation of the six percent.

1305
01:50:47,250 --> 01:50:47,610
Yes.

1306
01:50:48,950 --> 01:50:50,090
Six or five.

1307
01:50:50,330 --> 01:50:51,270
Was it six or five?

1308
01:50:51,410 --> 01:50:52,030
I think it's six.

1309
01:50:52,030 --> 01:50:52,330
Six.

1310
01:50:53,110 --> 01:50:56,210
And then another anticipated next year too.

1311
01:50:57,450 --> 01:50:58,030
Well, I thought that.

1312
01:50:58,030 --> 01:50:58,510
That's the point.

1313
01:50:58,690 --> 01:50:59,790
We'll actually be in the black.

1314
01:51:00,630 --> 01:51:01,550
I hope so.

1315
01:51:02,110 --> 01:51:02,170
Okay.

1316
01:51:10,730 --> 01:51:11,890
Oh, I'm sorry, Dad.

1317
01:51:12,890 --> 01:51:14,070
Oh, Joe, yes, please.

1318
01:51:15,370 --> 01:51:16,250
Thank you.

1319
01:51:16,370 --> 01:51:17,210
Tell us.

1320
01:51:21,170 --> 01:51:22,670
Yes, Joe is my plantation ski.

1321
01:51:23,150 --> 01:51:26,630
I know we've been talking about the increase in that and I know I keep bringing it up,

1322
01:51:26,790 --> 01:51:31,570
but I really wish it was very disappointing in our last study that they really didn't go

1323
01:51:31,570 --> 01:51:32,650
over the EDUs.

1324
01:51:32,770 --> 01:51:38,910
I think there's a lot of money that we could there would be had if we updated our EDU

1325
01:51:38,910 --> 01:51:41,510
And I would like to see that done.

1326
01:51:42,190 --> 01:51:44,070
So we're just going to.

1327
01:51:44,210 --> 01:51:48,010
And so are you thinking, like, go building the building,

1328
01:51:48,130 --> 01:51:52,490
business to business, or look at their water usage?

1329
01:51:53,130 --> 01:51:56,370
I think that the easiest way, in my opinion,

1330
01:51:56,630 --> 01:52:02,270
would be we figured 157 gallons per day is one EDU.

1331
01:52:02,910 --> 01:52:07,110
To get readouts from the aqueduct, and if somebody is using

1332
01:52:08,310 --> 01:52:14,430
350 gallons a day, they should be not paying one E to U, they should be paying more than that.

1333
01:52:14,790 --> 01:52:21,230
And I think that that would help compensate for the increase that we're going to be paying now as well.

1334
01:52:21,550 --> 01:52:26,690
But how could we prove that they're not using that water to water their grass or fill their pool?

1335
01:52:28,750 --> 01:52:29,970
Because they're actually...

1336
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:39,640
The paying more on their sewer bill if they're not doing it through a sprinkler meter, right?

1337
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:50,180
So there are people that actually don't, they're not flushing more down the toilet, but they're using more water to water their grass or fill their pool.

1338
01:52:50,440 --> 01:52:54,760
And with that they were supposed to have the option to put in a different meter.

1339
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:59,920
the meter that they're going to use to fill their pool or to water their grass.

1340
01:53:01,100 --> 01:53:08,800
So if they don't opt to do that, well, that would be up to them to figure out which way is less expensive for them.

1341
01:53:09,860 --> 01:53:13,160
Well, that doesn't seem, I mean, that they have the option.

1342
01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:24,420
That doesn't sound equitable if we're charging them for an EDU and it's really not an EDU and extra one that doesn't seem fair to charge them somebody for an extra EDU.

1343
01:53:24,420 --> 01:53:27,220
Right, that's where the extra meter comes in.

1344
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:29,300
The meter, the extra meter.

1345
01:53:29,300 --> 01:53:31,640
Water somebody to go get another meter.

1346
01:53:33,300 --> 01:53:34,380
For somebody who's filling up.

1347
01:53:34,380 --> 01:53:35,360
There's gotta be a dip.

1348
01:53:35,580 --> 01:53:36,920
There's gotta be a way to do it.

1349
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:38,060
It's a great idea.

1350
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:41,940
And I think it's a pretty big study,

1351
01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:44,520
but there's gotta be a good, you know,

1352
01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:46,780
there's gotta be, because we're still,

1353
01:53:46,780 --> 01:53:49,300
we still have the elephant in the room too.

1354
01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:52,480
I mean, we still have a lot of those mother-in-law apartments

1355
01:53:52,480 --> 01:53:58,000
that happened in the 70s and 80s and stuff that really are in a single family house that

1356
01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:04,140
are being charged for 180U when there's really two, and I don't really want to call those

1357
01:54:04,140 --> 01:54:08,920
out a lot of times because there really are, where some of our affordable housing is, right?

1358
01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:15,220
And we've never come up with a way to legitimize them which we really should.

1359
01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:20,300
Well, especially like a lot of these vacation rentals where they've got,

1360
01:54:20,300 --> 01:54:28,260
people in there, and it's still a single, a single family residence, so they're only paying

1361
01:54:28,260 --> 01:54:33,880
one, E.D.U. There's different things, but I wish we could do a study on that to find out a

1362
01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:39,480
good way to make it more equitable. Yeah, okay, thank you, Jim. Thank you. It's the right thing to

1363
01:54:39,480 --> 01:54:48,680
do, you're right. Yes, Jim. So when they made that presentation, there was a question asked about

1364
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:56,660
the EDU's, and Trent had, Trent, Trevor, sorry, Trevor had, had an answer to that, that

1365
01:54:56,660 --> 01:54:58,340
they did look at it, it was a very minimal.

1366
01:54:59,020 --> 01:55:04,140
Actually, I think if I remember, he said that on most single family houses, the number that

1367
01:55:04,140 --> 01:55:11,540
we came up with the EDU, they used much less than that, but yeah, you're right, they did,

1368
01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:13,660
he did give us an answer to that.

1369
01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:19,420
And I can tell you personally, I've done that calculation a bunch of times for residential

1370
01:55:19,420 --> 01:55:23,620
houses and most of the time they are under any of you.

1371
01:55:23,620 --> 01:55:24,320
Oh yeah.

1372
01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:25,420
Yeah.

1373
01:55:27,160 --> 01:55:27,380
Right.

1374
01:55:30,510 --> 01:55:32,010
Any other wastewater questions?

1375
01:55:33,670 --> 01:55:34,190
Yes, no.

1376
01:55:36,770 --> 01:55:37,030
All right.

1377
01:55:37,150 --> 01:55:38,970
Last but not least, we've got storm water.

1378
01:55:46,380 --> 01:55:52,020
The only change I missed putting the assessment consultant charge

1379
01:55:52,020 --> 01:55:54,580
in there. So I've added that for $6,500.

1380
01:55:57,020 --> 01:56:00,820
And that's an annual fee that they do our assessment

1381
01:56:00,820 --> 01:56:02,960
roles for us. Okay.

1382
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:08,820
And that is it.

1383
01:56:11,420 --> 01:56:11,780
Okay.

1384
01:56:23,410 --> 01:56:26,650
So we've got two resolutions that we need to deal with

1385
01:56:26,650 --> 01:56:36,250
before we walk out here tonight. Yep. And I guess we should start with the resolution that's

1386
01:56:36,250 --> 01:56:44,910
Senator Tabbay and see if there's a motion in a second.

1387
01:56:45,530 --> 01:56:48,070
Do you need to read that back in the record again, John?

1388
01:56:48,270 --> 01:56:51,490
I was going to ask if you want to be too, so it's probably better to do that since it's

1389
01:56:51,490 --> 01:56:51,670
a little.

1390
01:56:51,670 --> 01:56:53,010
I think it's cleaner, too.

1391
01:56:53,270 --> 01:56:55,450
So let's read the resolution for A first.

1392
01:56:55,990 --> 01:56:58,870
That's a resolution of the Village Council of Island Marta Village of Island's Florida,

1393
01:56:58,910 --> 01:57:03,630
many resolution number 26 to Sero7-67 adopting a tentative millage rate for the fiscal

1394
01:57:03,630 --> 01:57:13,490
you're commencing October 1, 2026 through September 30, 2027, pursuant to Section 200.065 floor to statutes and providing for an effective date.

1395
01:57:13,990 --> 01:57:20,690
Thank you. What we normally do in a normal meeting is we have public comment after we start opening up something like this.

1396
01:57:21,270 --> 01:57:31,210
So is there anybody that would like to comment on our tab A on the resolutions? Anybody on line, Marty?

1397
01:57:31,210 --> 01:57:37,970
No, sir. Okay, hearing none and seeing none, public comments, close. What's your pleasure, Council?

1398
01:57:39,670 --> 01:57:40,730
All motion to approve?

1399
01:57:41,770 --> 01:57:44,230
Got a motion to approve, is there second?

1400
01:57:46,970 --> 01:57:52,070
And the motion to approve is at 2.7231.

1401
01:57:53,110 --> 01:57:53,970
That's correct.

1402
01:57:58,730 --> 01:58:01,110
There's a motion on the table, is there second?

1403
01:58:06,750 --> 01:58:07,350
I'm

1404
01:58:13,810 --> 01:58:17,290
going to go in once, go in twice, there's a motion on it.

1405
01:58:17,510 --> 01:58:17,970
Out second.

1406
01:58:19,670 --> 01:58:21,350
There's a motion in a second.

1407
01:58:21,810 --> 01:58:22,810
Marty, what are you calling for?

1408
01:58:23,470 --> 01:58:24,590
Council member Ann Richards?

1409
01:58:26,290 --> 01:58:27,290
Council member Deb Gillis?

1410
01:58:28,370 --> 01:58:29,690
Council member Steve Friedman?

1411
01:58:32,420 --> 01:58:32,620
Yes.

1412
01:58:33,780 --> 01:58:34,900
Vice Mayor Sheren Mahoney?

1413
01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:36,020
Yes.

1414
01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:37,840
And Mayor Don Harden.

1415
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:40,100
Yes, the motion pass is 5-0.

1416
01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:42,920
All right, will you read us, Tab V, then?

1417
01:58:43,460 --> 01:58:45,860
Tab V is a resolution of the Village Council of Alamada Village

1418
01:58:45,860 --> 01:58:49,120
Violence Florida providing for adoption of the tentative budget,

1419
01:58:49,480 --> 01:58:52,040
other village for the fiscal year 2026-2027,

1420
01:58:52,340 --> 01:58:54,140
commencing on October 1, 2026,

1421
01:58:54,280 --> 01:58:56,200
and ending on September 30, 2027,

1422
01:58:56,880 --> 01:58:58,980
authorizes expenditure of funds established by the budget,

1423
01:58:59,120 --> 01:59:02,080
providing for the budgetary control, providing for personal

1424
01:59:02,080 --> 01:59:04,280
authorization, providing for gifts and grants,

1425
01:59:04,620 --> 01:59:06,180
providing for amendments, providing for income rents,

1426
01:59:06,360 --> 01:59:07,440
providing for issues of checks,

1427
01:59:07,440 --> 01:59:09,180
providing for post audit, providing for

1428
01:59:09,180 --> 01:59:11,400
some ability and providing for an effective date.

1429
01:59:12,700 --> 01:59:12,900
All right.

1430
01:59:13,180 --> 01:59:15,040
We've read that resolution as well.

1431
01:59:15,260 --> 01:59:17,900
Is there any public comment on this resolution on

1432
01:59:17,900 --> 01:59:19,720
Resolution under tab B?

1433
01:59:21,580 --> 01:59:22,760
Marnie, any one online?

1434
01:59:23,280 --> 01:59:23,880
No, sorry.

1435
01:59:24,420 --> 01:59:25,700
Very good.

1436
01:59:25,860 --> 01:59:26,160
Council.

1437
01:59:26,700 --> 01:59:29,820
Sir, a motion to adopt the tentative budget?

1438
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:46,140
Motion to express?

1439
01:59:46,500 --> 01:59:49,780
Is there a motion to adopt the tentative budget

1440
01:59:49,780 --> 01:59:53,000
So this is going to be your 26th, 27th and it's just been the most.

1441
01:59:53,480 --> 01:59:54,140
Excuse me?

1442
01:59:54,140 --> 01:59:54,680
I'm excited.

1443
01:59:55,140 --> 01:59:56,420
And I'm going to be the most.

1444
01:59:58,200 --> 01:59:59,260
Did you make the most?

1445
01:59:59,560 --> 01:59:59,980
Oh, I'm sorry.

1446
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:07,540
And in here, you is there a second. Second, okay? There's a motion in a second, morning, we call the roll.

1447
02:00:07,960 --> 02:00:11,340
Council member Ann Richards? Yes. Council member Steve Friedman? Yes.

1448
02:00:11,900 --> 02:00:13,520
Council member Depp Gillis? No.

1449
02:00:15,620 --> 02:00:18,920
Vice Mayor Sharon Mahoney? No. And Mayor Don Horton?

1450
02:00:22,910 --> 02:00:26,910
Does it for you one way or the other?

1451
02:00:29,500 --> 02:00:29,980
Yes.

1452
02:00:31,300 --> 02:00:31,500
Yes.

1453
02:00:32,380 --> 02:00:33,880
Good motion passes through, too.

1454
02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:37,600
I have a question.

1455
02:00:39,180 --> 02:00:40,040
Yeah, if you have a question.

1456
02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:40,920
I have a question.

1457
02:00:43,640 --> 02:00:49,540
The middle age is the only one that required a 401 vote or does the budget also.

1458
02:00:49,860 --> 02:00:50,680
Just the middle age.

1459
02:00:50,680 --> 02:00:56,740
And actually technically, it's only required for the final milled rate, which is at the second budget hearing.

1460
02:00:58,080 --> 02:01:03,500
But obviously, if we didn't have for tonight, that would be a bad sign for that.

1461
02:01:03,500 --> 02:01:07,460
But it is only required on the milled, not on the budget.

1462
02:01:10,180 --> 02:01:10,620
Tint it.

1463
02:01:11,560 --> 02:01:14,720
All right, is there anything else we need to do tonight?

1464
02:01:16,780 --> 02:01:16,940
No?