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Good evening. I want to welcome all those in the room and online to the September 3rd, Ivan City Council regular meeting.

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Being held today, I am not Kevin Smith and I don't play him on TV. I am the mayor pro-taim, so I will be acting as mayor. I have a much smaller gavel than you. But it is still powerful.

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So, thank you all for being here.

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I'm proud to say that we have a quorum.

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We have everyone except the mayor.

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He's taking some family time.

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And we're going to begin our meeting with a flying salute

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and an invocation led by Council Member Scott.

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If you'll please stand if you're able.

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Let

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us take a moment to reflect on Labor Day, which we will observe on Monday. Labor Day

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recognizes the enormous contribution that workers make to our families, our community, and

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our country. Here in Ivan's people teach, protect, build, repair, create, care, grow,

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manage, serve, and solve problems.

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They work with their hands and at desks, outdoors and indoors, travel miles to work

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and work from home, run businesses and work for others, performing all the necessary jobs

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that keep our community healthy, moving, and alive every day.

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A city is governed around this table, but a community is built by the people who work in

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it.

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So this evening, let us acknowledge and celebrate everyone who works in every kind of work and thank them for the time, talent and effort.

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They contribute every day to making Ivan's the community.

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We are proud to call home.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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We'll move forward with Council Disclosures.

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I'll start with Council Member Pennington.

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No conflict.

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Council member.

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No conflicts.

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Council member Barton?

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No conflict.

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Council member Scott?

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No conflicts.

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And I have no conflicts.

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We'll start first with two A.

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Our Department reports.

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Mr. Mark Christensen.

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Parks and Recreation will call you at first.

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I apologize for the miscommunication.

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I thought I, well, my cent in box showed I had cent at the Gary,

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but she never received it.

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So that's why it's late.

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But all good news in the Parks and Recreation Department,

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we have a recreation intern who started.

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Jonathan Gonzales, this is third week.

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We've had meetings with like Santa Clara to see if we can use

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their pick-a-ball courts to start this fall pick-a-ball league.

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It's something that he's really wanting to get started.

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And so he's already bringing some good programs

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to the city.

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Should be fun.

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And then we had our movies in the park, most of them were held, but cars was not held because lightning came.

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I'm an appropriate.

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So we did have to cancel that August 14th movie, which was sad.

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And then we are all full.

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I'll fill that in our volleyball league.

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league, it starts the Monday after Heritage Days, and then Flood Ball starts the Wednesday after

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Heritage Days, and those leagues are filled up as well.

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And then we are geared up for Heritage Days, so next week, Wednesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

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Thursday, Friday, Saturday, the schedules in the report.

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We'd love to see as many of the events as you can make it to.

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But definitely, as Sharon has been reminding the council, the dinner on Friday night and the parade on Saturday morning for sure.

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But we're super excited for the event. We love the theme. We love the red white and blue. It fits into this year.

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We have as many parade entries as we had last year. Almost as many booths I think we'll get there.

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So everything's filling up and it's going to be a fun, it's going to be a fun time.

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We have a lot of good sponsors, their banners are up on.

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How are we 91 and on center street? And we appreciate everybody who pitches in and helps us with heritage days.

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For the parks department,

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one of the big things we're going to take down the traffic control for the hamble and round about probably tomorrow or Saturday.

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And at least our side of it, it looks like they're still doing some trail work on their side of it.

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But our cones are the ones on the center.

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And that looked good.

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I think everything went well.

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They worked well with us for the installation of the roundabout.

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We will update later on the community garden.

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So we'll just skip that for now.

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But everybody's here, mostly healthy.

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We've had a couple of small incidents to one of our employees

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kind of smashed his wrist.

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And so he's on light duty, but he'll be okay.

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I don't know if he was broken or anything.

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But we're trying to stay safe, and as safe as we can,

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but they do a lot of physical labor,

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and it just comes with the jobs sometimes.

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So any questions?

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know that I think you beat my number of sponsors achieved. So this is awesome. This is

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the most we've ever had. Congratulations. Thank you. Yeah. People are willing to

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support in a little bit to help it be a good event. So we appreciate it.

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Anything else, Council? Thank you, Mark.

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Thanks.

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Next up, Chief Sudley, Public Safety.

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Thank you, Mayor Proofton and Council.

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You have my report.

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I just want to go to some additional things that weren't on there.

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We met with the Public Safety Work Group this past week, and it felt like a very productive

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conversation that we had.

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I was asked to highlight an employee, and so this comes on the heels of a birth that was yesterday.

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So, Officer Britten-Tobler and his wife Bernice gave birth to their first son, Boe-Tobler.

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Seven pounds, two ounces, 20 and a quarter inches long.

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So, tell me, healthy baby boy.

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Congratulations.

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All the boys, we're going to have five babies born this year in the department.

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I guess that we know of.

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So far.

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Officer Bartreff is off of FTO, and he is working a patrol shift.

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We did some active threat training at RVU for their staff.

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that was well attended by their stuff, their staff.

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And we had city manager chucked you a lot of

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a tent, it was neat for him to see us in action.

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We are getting ready for Heritage Day, Swiss days

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and the PGA.

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So we are in full swing of special events.

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There's no shortage of special events

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for our police department fire department cities

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to engage in.

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And then I wanted to highlight two different speed studies.

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That was brought up to maybe you guys

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would want to see what those are.

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So we had a request to put it on 200 South and Kovasa.

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On that speed study, there was 4,502 vehicles and it shows an enforceability rating as low.

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But 4% of the vehicles that were driving on that road were speeding the average or the mean for vehicles traveling on a 30 mile an hour road was 29.9 miles an hour.

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However, the fastest was 59, and I don't know that that wasn't chief, because they're.

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People, is this a request by a resident or okay? Yeah, thank you. And then the second one was that we'd

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place it on for an orphan to a country. And again, those stay up for seven days. If people want them longer,

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kind of gives us a better perspective for the week. But we just did these at a week

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in duration, because we've had lots of requests for them. So this one again, the speed,

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It was at, yeah, 400 North 200, I've speed limit's posted at 30.

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It gave us a rating in the median.

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So again, 30 miles an hour is a speed limit.

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The average speed was 33.1 miles an hour.

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So 11% of the violations on that road are enforceable.

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And again, I'm saying it's probably a fire truck.

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69 miles an hour was the fastest one there.

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And Chief, if a resident would like to request a traffic study, how do they do that?

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Call me, text me.

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Well, email, how about that?

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Oh, you're welcome.

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Chase Dudley.

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Ivan's Utah.

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Come.

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Swing by the office.

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Let's talk about it and we'll go from there.

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We'll see if there's been one done in that area in the past year and then we'll look at

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both of those when we do no one.

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So, yeah, always looking for areas to put those up.

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And then, from the results, I'm gathering that there was nothing...

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Dramaticly concerning on your end, or are the things we always get complaints at people coming into and out of the state park for right there. So yeah, absolutely. But yeah, the citizen that asked for Uncle Vasu was talking about it being a raceway. But again, if there was, what was it?

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4% of the traffic would have been enforceable for violations that puts it in the lower risk. Doesn't mean we won't sit there, right?

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means that we'll look at other areas too and do our best to be everywhere once.

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Council any other questions?

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Thank you Chief.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for all you and your team do.

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Chief Cousier, Fire EMS report.

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Do you have anything to say for yourself?

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I don't think it was one of the fire apparatus that could have been me.

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I doubt it.

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I don't usually drive that fast unless I'm following him.

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We both go that fast.

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Well played.

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As you look through our response call volume in the numbers percentages,

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interesting this month.

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Usually the percentages between Santa Clara and Ivan are not quite this close,

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but you'll see that they're almost even for the month.

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And we continue to be a little busier than normal.

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I don't know if this is going to stay this way,

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or if it's going to trail off at some point.

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I've just seen to do that.

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Just to kind of echo a couple of things that

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she said we didn't meet this week for the public safety

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work group meeting, and it was a great meeting.

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A couple of you guys were there, and thought it went well.

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We planned the balance of the meetings throughout the year, as well as our joint meeting

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with Santa Clara, so it should be a good time.

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We'll hold that at the fire station, give tours of the station, give an update, kind

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of a state of the two departments update for the year we're looking forward to it.

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A couple of the grants we're working on, you guys all know about the safer grant.

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It October can't get here quick enough.

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With that said, that's the beginning of the rounds of when they'll notify us who's being awarded.

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I hope we're near the front, but we'll take it if we can get it.

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Again, with that, as you know, we've had three positions budgeted this year.

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If we're lucky enough to get the safer we'll get, we'll double that, go to six, which will be phenomenal.

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Another grant we're working on is kind of newer grants called the Rural Health Transformation Program Grant.

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It's a five-year grant. It's a federal money, but it's done managed through the state.

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And we are, it's an EMS grant.

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And we are requesting a little over a million dollars in a five-year span, which will be amazing.

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who knows what they'll approve and what they won't.

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We'll get some money for sure, but we just don't know

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to what point.

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So we feel like we've maxed out our requests

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as far as EMS equipment and apparatus go.

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So more to come on that, that says this is kind of the same

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timeline up to over no member on the more on that.

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We have three of our firefighters in Paramedic School,

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And that is on that downhill back side, 75% complete right now, and it's a lot of time commitment.

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And I know those three are ready to be closer to the 100% mark, but they've all done amazing work in doing really well.

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This week yesterday, we advertised for our part-time admin assistant for the Fire Department.

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We're super excited to go through the list of applicants and select somebody and it will help me out immensely.

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Talk a little bit about deployments, where we've done 13 deployments for the year.

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We've been on a lot more than 13 fires, but 13 major deployments.

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crew just came back this week from the Crony fire, which is in Nevada near Italy, and then

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there's a Utah Task Force, they put together with different departments in Utah, and

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they're in Texas right now. They're not assigned to a specific fire today, but in those task

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force they'll go and hit several fires, and they do have some larger fires and we could

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and upon one of those, but as of today.

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They were kind of a mobile unit. It's not specifically assigned to a single fire. And with that,

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they've told us to expect what they call cruise swaps. So, at deployments 14 days, if we do a cruise swap,

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it'll be 14. They'll get three days of our yarn and then another 14. So, they'll be gone for more than a month.

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Lots and lots of activities and different things going on.

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Obviously we talked about here days and super excited for that.

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There's bike races, Swiss days, EGA.

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There are a lot of events going on in the two cities right now.

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One of the things that we're super excited about that doesn't come along very often is

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there's a home in Santa Clara that's going to be torn down.

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And so our crews have been training on it in their break-in walls and cutting holes and dragging people out and filling up full smoke.

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We have a smoke machine. It's not, we're not having a lid on fire.

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But we feel a full smoke, blindfold firefighters, then in their search for a victim, find them, and then pull them out.

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Breaching walls, forcible entry, we'll get to the point where we're going to cut holes in the roof and break windows, but we're not quite there yet.

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We just want to beat the police department to that because we know if they get in there.

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There's no saying what's going to happen.

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And that is, the balance of my report, he has have any questions for me.

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How many phone calls have you got from concerned residents?

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We've got in the area.

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But do you wait till we break the windows and get a hold on the roof?

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We'll get a lot more.

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I can imagine.

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Council, any questions?

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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We'll give you a little bit more update counsel on the meeting and steps going forward when we get to that item on the agenda a little bit later.

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Next up is our planning commissioner Perry Brown.

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Mayor Pro Tim and other council members.

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Nice to be able to talk with you this evening.

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We had a relatively short meeting that we got locked down in one place and I'll tell you what that is.

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But we started with discussion of amendments and modifications to accessory dwelling unit ordinance.

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And most of the changes proposed there are editorial or to comply with new state law.

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But we got into a significant discussion about labels and definition of tiny homes, modular homes, manufactured houses, and things like that.

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And so we have asked Rob to go back and make sure that there's consistency in the document in different places where these are mentioned.

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There seemed to be a feeling that a lot of this thing ought to be manufactured homes.

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But anyway, he's going to work through that and see, and I think it would work for the city attorney as well.

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So, make sure they understand exactly what all these different definitions are, but we spend a lot of time on that.

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One thing in the rest of it looked really good.

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So, we're pretty happy with that, and I think that'll come to you pretty soon.

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Anyway, the second thing that we dealt with was we talked a little bit about and up I had an update on the data and information for the land use map exercise

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We talked a little bit about the information that we got from Councilman Scott with regard to things that are in the general plan that relate to this particular exercise

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And then we spend just a little bit of time talking about some very preliminary information with regard to the business survey that's going on

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And so we got an understanding of those new things in addition to all the other things that

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we had asked for off the work on already.

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So that was pretty good.

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And finally, the thing that we talked about a little bit was the home business ordinance that

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Kade Visor is working on right now.

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And with regard to that, we made it very clear that Kade has a lot of examples from other cities

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within Utah. None of those examples are duplicates of each other. Some have one

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thing, some have another. He's gone through all those. I've looked at some of them,

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so that we've got an idea of what some of the things are that the cities are doing,

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trying to figure out which ones fit our particular needs, particularly so that we can be

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fairly flexible to be attractive to people for things that really do fit in

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with in this community and so what Kate's going to do then is he's

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Going to take this information that he's been developing, he's going to give us a draft and then we'll go through things to add, to subtract, to modify and that and we'll probably go a couple rounds on that before we have something to come to you.

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Awesome.

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Anyway, it's underway.

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So that's what we're doing and that's what our meeting was about.

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So thanks, any questions at all?

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Any questions, council?

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No.

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No.

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Great.

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great job. Thank you. If this time we're going to look at item three,

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a citizen comment and request for future agenda items, we do have a request tonight from

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Fred Bernbaum. Fred, come on up.

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Good evening, Madam Mayor and City Council members.

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My name is Fred Bernbaum. I'm an Ivan's resident. My request and comment is tied to the annexation

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of the CITLA property adjacent into go trails, and specifically this is obviously a very important

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item before the city council.

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My request is that the discussion and vote for the CITLA should be noticed for dates

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certain several weeks in advance to allow proper public input.

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Any questions?

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Now, I just want to let you know, this will be on many future agendas, there's no question

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about it.

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And right now, Chuck has some additional information, but right now we're waiting on

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settler to get back to us so we can schedule the next one.

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And then public hearings are scheduled according to law.

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How far in advance are those scheduled carry two weeks?

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Thank you.

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Chuck?

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So yeah, I was going to save us from my report at the end of the meeting, but I'll go ahead

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and just report on some updates regarding the settler property.

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I've been trying to get a hold of Aaron Langston for a few days.

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We finally were able to connect this week.

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And I had a really good conversation with him.

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And we remind everybody who Aaron Langston is kind of the, I don't know, kind of, I don't know.

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He's the settler guy.

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He works for settler.

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Okay.

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He's not one of the developers.

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So it wasn't TJ and Bracken that we're giving the presentations for the developer, he represents

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Silla.

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We did have an interesting conversation about this Steve Waldrup quote,

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where the states threatening to take away funding with people don't work with Silla on projects.

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Although I will say regarding Steve Waldrup's comment,

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He made it pretty clear that it was important to have conversations and discussions and I think that's what we're doing and so I

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You know, I don't know what the governor's thinking about Ivan's, but anyway

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Aaron brought that up brought up. Yeah, I'm sure you heard that you know and and anyway

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We had a great conversation

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He said one of their problems is they were struggling. I just as we need a revised plan

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So that we can keep moving on this

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They were struggling to come up with revised plan because they weren't, you know, there was some mixed messages, I guess, in that meeting where we had the last meeting where we kind of did our internal meeting and we gave them some feedback, but so I think they're kind of just kind of wrestling with that right now.

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What are they going to propose next?

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What is their next plan going to look like?

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So I hope to see something soon.

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But right now we don't even know where they're going with it.

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If they're going to take some of our feedback and do all low density residential,

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or if they're going to say no, we want to do something else.

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Anyway, we're waiting for them.

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The ball is in their court.

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And until we see a revised plan,

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We really don't have anything to do right now with it.

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Thank you.

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I did have a good conversation with Steve Waldrup this week up at the conference about

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that situation.

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It's not just Sittla.

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It's a lot of different aspects to it, but Sittla is one part of that challenge up there.

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Mike, did you have any comments or questions?

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You good?

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Council any other questions?

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All right.

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Thank you, Fred.

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Moving on to item 4A, public hearing.

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We get to my right peep construction here.

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We are, sorry about that,

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we are having a public hearing to discuss, amending the standard

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specifications for design and construction CCPH, in conjunction with ordinance 2026-8.

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Mr. Tom Jorgensen, do you want to open this up and then we'll open the public hearing?

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Tom Jorgensen, good evening, Mayor Potem and other council members. We appreciate you being with us here tonight.

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I don't know how much of an introduction you'd like for this before the public hearing, but every so often we have minor and sometimes major changes to our standard specifications.

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Today we're coming forward with quite a few changes that have been built up over the past several maybe ten years and we're just trying to get them all kind of push through so if there's any questions from the public I'd be happy to answer

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Okay

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With that we will open the public hearing and anyone that would like to come forward and make any comments regarding the specifications changes please do

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and state your name and your address.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Nobody on Zoom.

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All right.

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With that, last call, we will close the public hearing and move forward to item 4B discussing

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consider approval of ordinance 202618, an ordinance of Ivan City Utah adopting the construction

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specifications.

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Mayor.

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Council?

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Yes, for my own knowledge, time I just have a couple questions for you.

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I'm enlisting back through the Planning Commission meeting on this.

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There is no cost that's going to be any increase cost to the city at this point for making these changes.

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For the city directly?

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Yeah.

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That is questionable.

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So for instance some of our roadways we've increased the asphalt width for different like a collector versus an arterial.

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So if we go an inch thicker in our standards that's a additional cost to the city.

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So there's things like that throughout.

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Typically, if we're improving a standard, there is likely a cost increase associated with that.

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How much of these are significant cost increases?

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I would say none of them.

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But yeah, here in there there are some increases to the developer and to the city because sometimes we do our own installations for roads or pipelines or infrastructure.

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and this was a lot of work that your department did and I just want to make certain

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I understand like with the trench backfill and repair, the red cloud is completely

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around the entire page so that means that we're changing the policy or the procedure.

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Yeah, it did not exist before and so it's a new detail that we're adding in there.

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more for clarification, sometimes a picture says something words do, but does it in a better way?

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So that's one of those instances where we've added a whole new detail.

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You probably ought to mention like before we were relying on the standard specification from APWA,

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and we decided part of this was deciding that we wanted our own detail that we could have more control over exactly what it says.

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Okay.

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Council member Pennington.

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So I'd like to say what probably every one of us up here is thinking and not saying,

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we're not experts in this, we don't understand it.

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It's a little bit like clicking on the, yes, I agree to all of Apple's requirements,

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because even iPhone, which turns out to be hundreds of pages long.

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But we have a lot of faith in our staff, having done a good job, but we also rely,

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I think on the developers and builders in the community that if they think something is wrong, of course

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they'll go to you first to say, are you kidding me?

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But then they should come to us.

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Some of us enjoyed reading parts of it.

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It was enlightening to see how you do a trench.

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It really is exciting.

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But I would have no idea whether that's the best way to build a trench,

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or the best compromise between cost and safety and durability and so on.

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But anyway, so I think from a 50,000 foot level, we have confidence that you've done a good job,

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but we'd like to have feedback from people who...

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I could definitely pass that message along. We have been soft imposing a lot of these requirements over the past while anyways, letting developers know that this is our standard that's coming. We'd like you to do it. Typically, we don't get any pushback because it's not a significant cost increase, it's just kind of a difference in some of these standards.

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if there are oppositions, yeah, well, definitely give you that feedback.

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I would second Wayne's comments.

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It was like reading Greek for the most part, not my core strength, and I agree, I have full

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faith in both our former public work director and our current public work director that this

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is fair and equitable for everyone involved, and if it's not, they'll tell us.

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Mayor is going to add to I reached out to a bunch of contractors just asking like what is

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the standard like is this normal is this too much is this not enough and it sounds like

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for the most part of the majority of what we're approving tonight or potentially going to

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approve is the standard amongst the other cities too is that kind of what you've gathered is

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this is just a norm and we're kind of getting caught up to speed that's correct yeah

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the most part mayor yes and at the last meeting we did talk about this and there were a few

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issues that I brought up that you talked about in some detail and really clarified that

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this is normal. It doesn't really add additional costs to a development in most cases,

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specifically on the changes for the underground storm drainage, the water service sizing,

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and bonding requirements. So the last meeting, probably two meetings, three meetings ago,

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when we talked about this, there is some more information there.

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Yeah.

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Give me other questions, concerns, comments.

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I will.

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I will make a motion.

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When you're ready.

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May I add motion to approve ordinance number 2026-18 and ordinance of Ivan City, Utah,

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adopting construction specifications.

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Second.

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I have a motion with a second.

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I'm going to do a real call vote.

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Council member Scott.

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Council member Barton.

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Council member Hurt.

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I.

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Council member Fannington.

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Hi.

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And I'm an I.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Motion's passed.

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All right.

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Moving into section five discussion and potential action items.

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I think we have a very special presentation coming forward regarding Mojavier State's

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part.

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There was an article and I think it was the July newsletter I can't remember about this.

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And their team is here to share more.

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So I would ask whoever is making this presentation and involve to please come forward.

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Tell us who you are and tell us about what's going on. The pictures were incredible

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Okay, I might have if it's all right. Can we have anyone who's representing the park and our co-op want to stand up?

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So these are some of the faces behind not everybody could be here. We're very active in the community

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We got a lot of people at football and baseball and basketball whatever else

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Whatever ball and

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classes and theater so not everybody's here, but thanks

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So tell us about the genesis of this project.

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All right. Well, these guys have prepared a whole case.

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So here we go.

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Can you afford to do sure so?

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Oh, yeah. Tell us who you are.

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Who are you?

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Yeah.

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Hi, I'm Luke.

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Hi, Luke.

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Now I'm going to introduce this.

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Hello.

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We are up in Adam.

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We're a homeschool co-op made up of seven families with kids ranging from about six to 15.

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We've been learning together for about five years.

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We do regular school subjects, but we also spend a lot of time doing hands-on things like cooking,

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sewing, gardening, sports, and other things where it's interested in.

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Our house is right next to the park on Main Street, so we use the park quite a lot.

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And that's where this idea starts.

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Can you hear it's fine, dude?

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Drive.

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If you can't, it's okay.

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I don't know.

462
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I'll tell you all about it.

463
00:34:34,490 --> 00:34:35,530
All right, let's go to scroll down.

464
00:34:35,710 --> 00:34:35,890
There we go.

465
00:34:35,950 --> 00:34:37,890
We have it on our little iPads, too.

466
00:34:39,250 --> 00:34:42,950
We started talking about what we would want in the park if we could improve it.

467
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:47,390
At first, we were thinking about a better playground, more shade, water and places to sit.

468
00:34:47,630 --> 00:34:50,050
But as we talk to more, our idea's got bigger.

469
00:34:50,050 --> 00:34:56,650
We started thinking about having places for classes, performances, art community events, and opportunities for kids learn about business.

470
00:34:57,190 --> 00:34:59,970
We always want to just talk a lot of playground anywhere where you're talking about.

471
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,900
We're creating a space where we can come together.

472
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:10,800
I want to go to the slide. I didn't plan the slide to think with this, but slide four would be great. Okay, there's some of our co-op kids in all of our names.

473
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:16,780
What does it mean? And then you can keep going. So the next slide shows the park today.

474
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:25,580
A little background, this park burnt down. It had a very small set of playground equipment that was proper for these guys when we first built.

475
00:35:25,580 --> 00:35:31,100
and they were tiny, tiny, but it melted and so now we're excited to rebuild.

476
00:35:32,060 --> 00:35:36,040
When we first presented this idea of the city council member, Mike Scott and Mark

477
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:42,380
Christianson and Tiffany Winn, and the city youth council, we didn't really know where

478
00:35:42,380 --> 00:35:42,680
it would go.

479
00:35:42,820 --> 00:35:47,500
The concept was so well received though that those present approved us to move forward with planning,

480
00:35:48,020 --> 00:35:49,320
designing and grants of missions.

481
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:57,980
We were so graciously offered by the represent representatives of the city council of labor and support as we move forward.

482
00:35:58,660 --> 00:36:10,640
So we've also partnered with Ivan's Inspired and Tiffany has been such a great help to us in helping us work with grants and networking and budgeting and connecting with resources.

483
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:20,960
She has since updated and we told all the kids this last week at our co-op that we received our first grant and it was for two thousand five hundred dollars from the get healthy Utah

484
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,520
Social Connection learning collaborative and mouthful, but so exciting

485
00:36:26,620 --> 00:36:34,960
It's not enough to rebuild the whole park, of course, but it's an important first step and we'll help us begin the planning and design process and the kids were very excited

486
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,700
Because that sounds like a lot of money

487
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:39,480
That's fantastic

488
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:41,560
I'm Brisbane.

489
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:42,560
Hi, Brisbane.

490
00:36:44,420 --> 00:36:48,060
We're working on getting pictures made of what the park could look like.

491
00:36:48,140 --> 00:36:51,880
We're hoping to work with the same artists who did the rendering for the new fire department.

492
00:36:54,440 --> 00:37:00,280
Okay, so as part of that, we're one of the most exciting things was that we're hoping

493
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,640
that we're not hoping we're excited that the kids are becoming a part of every single part

494
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:05,120
of this.

495
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,480
And going forward, we have several kids that are interested in art and architecture.

496
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:17,680
Anyone want to raise their hand? Who's interested in art and architecture? We have quite a few engineering, earth science and all of which

497
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:25,800
They'll have firsthand experience from this project. After our first meeting with Mike Scott, we got some future city council members here

498
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:31,080
Igor, can you go to slide? I think it's like the last slide. Like almost the last slide.

499
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,860
Where they're all sitting at the table with.

500
00:37:34,860 --> 00:37:38,320
We're going to come back. We'll come back to these great drawings. Keep going. Keep going.

501
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,820
Right there. Right, sorry. Second to last.

502
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:50,920
So we've got some future city council members that are eager to sit in those big cushy spinny chairs and that hell a long table and

503
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:58,760
Really make a difference in the community. So two of our youth have also joined recently joined the Ivan City Youth Council as a result of their

504
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:03,640
experience interacting with the council. So it's so cool. So excited for that to be

505
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:08,020
part of their education and learning how to take their amazing ideas and turn them

506
00:38:08,020 --> 00:38:13,620
into a reality. So the youth are leading this vision, the vision for this project and

507
00:38:13,620 --> 00:38:17,520
they're learning how to develop that vision into something practical and useful and sustainable.

508
00:38:24,780 --> 00:38:30,380
The, well, sorry. The playground is actually a pretty small part of what we're hoping

509
00:38:30,380 --> 00:38:34,920
to create. The main idea is an outdoor community classroom. It would be used for homeschool

510
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:40,400
classes, art, nature and gardening, performances, speakers, music, or kids teaching other kids.

511
00:38:40,740 --> 00:38:44,700
We're also looking at things like a nature walk, shaded play areas, drinking fountains and

512
00:38:44,700 --> 00:38:50,780
water excess, heart surface, play in gathering areas like electrical hookups and spaces for local

513
00:38:50,780 --> 00:38:56,460
art and murals. We want it to be useful for all ages and abilities. Chuck, can you scroll up to the

514
00:38:56,460 --> 00:39:00,500
one that says community garden in nature walk? Because that's kind of where the pictures start and

515
00:39:00,500 --> 00:39:03,380
I don't want everybody to see all these fabulous things they created.

516
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,380
There you go.

517
00:39:05,220 --> 00:39:09,020
And originally, we, I mean, we'll talk about, sorry, we'll talk about this soon.

518
00:39:09,660 --> 00:39:14,520
But originally, the kids knew about the community garden getting taken down quite a few of

519
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,380
the families planted there and have been active and they were sad to hear it was going.

520
00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:23,060
So they tried really hard to incorporate into our tiny little space, the community garden.

521
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,860
So it started with that, but it sounds like some things will change, but we're really excited

522
00:39:27,860 --> 00:39:28,320
about changing.

523
00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:29,020
Yeah.

524
00:39:29,020 --> 00:39:31,080
Tell me more.

525
00:39:31,780 --> 00:39:31,960
One of

526
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:40,420
our favorite days is having a small market stands around the park kids could use them

527
00:39:40,420 --> 00:39:43,300
to sell things they've made grown or created.

528
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,780
We love to eventually have use market days kind of like a menu to a con market but for

529
00:39:48,780 --> 00:39:49,380
kids.

530
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:54,180
It would give kids a chance to learn about business by doing it.

531
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:59,880
They would practice planning, creating, budgeting, marketing, and working with the

532
00:39:59,880 --> 00:39:59,960
love.

533
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,020
Look, excellent. Good job.

534
00:40:07,570 --> 00:40:11,590
Looks feeling left out. Luke, right here, drew this one. He's very proud of it.

535
00:40:11,590 --> 00:40:15,630
We're very proud of that. It's going to be really cool. It's on the corner right by our house.

536
00:40:16,610 --> 00:40:20,350
As the youth developed this project, we want to learn from the community.

537
00:40:20,810 --> 00:40:27,190
So we're planning, like, a get together, barbecue at the park. Once we have some, we're aiming for early November.

538
00:40:27,350 --> 00:40:32,930
So it's nice and cool. But we wanted to get feedback on their ideas and also get ideas from the community

539
00:40:32,930 --> 00:40:36,990
and let the kids really show how excited they are about this project.

540
00:40:37,970 --> 00:40:39,990
Oh, that's your pitch.

541
00:40:44,380 --> 00:40:45,140
The

542
00:40:47,610 --> 00:40:51,670
part already has a history of bringing us together.

543
00:40:52,350 --> 00:40:56,930
Our neighborhood has hosted a community Halloween party

544
00:40:57,810 --> 00:41:00,650
for the past 12 years.

545
00:41:01,470 --> 00:41:03,210
12 years, that's quite a long time.

546
00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:05,310
Are you that old?

547
00:41:07,950 --> 00:41:19,330
We love for the new part to be able to support events like that with places for tables and chairs and watered electricity gathering spaces.

548
00:41:27,090 --> 00:41:31,110
We don't want this to just be part for our group or just for little kids.

549
00:41:31,310 --> 00:41:34,710
We want families to use it, teenagers, grandparents and people with all abilities.

550
00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:41,150
We want it to be placed, we can come together across generations and cultures, share things, and learn from each other.

551
00:41:42,130 --> 00:41:47,570
We have a clear vision for the park, and we want to make sure that vision is informed by the people who will use it.

552
00:41:49,700 --> 00:41:54,980
Okay, so as we move forward, there are a lot of ways I know some community members are here, so this is for you guys.

553
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:05,300
But we want to get everybody involved, so we're excited about our upcoming barbecue, we're talking about maybe a market day where kids can sell some stuff and give an idea of what we'd like the park to be used for.

554
00:42:05,300 --> 00:42:15,080
But we'll continue applying for grants and looking for funding, we'll need businesses, artists, contractors, volunteers, donors, and people with useful skills and connections.

555
00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:21,480
We also welcome people who can help us understand the practical side of building and maintaining a project like this.

556
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:33,560
The youth will continue leading the vision and directing the park, but our goal is to give them real life experience, taking an idea for a beginning stages through planning, fundraising, design, and eventually construction.

557
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,440
So we hope you'll support them by sharing everything that you have to offer.

558
00:42:37,460 --> 00:42:39,920
We know we have a lot of very talented people in our community.

559
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,480
So do you guys have any questions for these guys or me?

560
00:42:44,940 --> 00:42:48,340
Well first of all, thank you and congratulations to all of you and thank you for coming

561
00:42:48,340 --> 00:42:51,120
and taking the time to teach us and tell us about this.

562
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:56,520
I'd seen these pictures when the article was being worked on and they're just fantastic.

563
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:04,940
And I love your, I love your inspirations and your ideas and your, your energy behind it.

564
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:05,940
Council any questions?

565
00:43:06,140 --> 00:43:12,320
Mayor, um, what's the goal for how much you want to fundraise or how much you need to make this come to life?

566
00:43:12,860 --> 00:43:14,120
That's a really great question.

567
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:21,620
My personal mind doesn't wrap around numbers super well, so I have someone that we also are still looking at that.

568
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:32,200
We recognize that it can happen in stages like this first grant we're so excited just to see the progress there the main focus for that will be the corner market stands

569
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:39,780
Okay, and then we're also looking at maybe first installing there is culinary water and so maybe first focusing on getting funding for a drinking fountain

570
00:43:39,780 --> 00:43:51,600
Which the kids would all love to have and then just working in stages so one of those little steps whatever we can accomplish as we go and then we did apply for a

571
00:43:51,600 --> 00:44:07,260
a couple of grants. We had a ton of help from Ivan's inspired. We didn't quite get the big one that we're aiming for, and so the kids got really excited though, and we started making videos of them commenting about what they love and what they want, hoping to get more attention in the next grant proposal.

572
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:28,100
And then one more comment for the youth, like I just want you to know how cool it is what you're doing and that you can make a difference like this is how change happens and it doesn't matter what your age is, it doesn't matter what your vision is, just follow your goals, be involved with your community and you can make things happen here in Ivan's and in the world so I really think it's cool what you're doing.

573
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:29,160
Thank you.

574
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:29,580
Great.

575
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,180
And let's make sure that we get all of the notices all over social media.

576
00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:41,660
We have a new Ivan City Facebook page that we're getting up and running and wherever we

577
00:44:41,660 --> 00:44:45,220
can put it in the newsletter on social media, whatever we'll do blasts.

578
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:46,470
Thank you.

579
00:44:47,020 --> 00:44:47,200
Thank you.

580
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:47,260
Yes.

581
00:44:47,620 --> 00:44:47,700
Councilor.

582
00:44:48,300 --> 00:44:53,280
This is an ambitious project that you're envisioning, and it's very exciting.

583
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,380
It's just absolutely wonderful pursuit.

584
00:44:56,380 --> 00:44:59,980
But, and I've spent some time with this up and...

585
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,000
And Adam Home School Group, and I'll tell you, they will accomplish whatever they set out to do.

586
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:07,760
Thank you, Mike.

587
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,800
Good. Thank you all very much. Appreciate it.

588
00:45:12,060 --> 00:45:12,360
Good job.

589
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:28,480
Next up, under number five, B is discussion regarding the new location for a community garden.

590
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:34,080
Located behind this proposed part. So we're already starting to get the part going.

591
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,360
Mark Richardson.

592
00:45:36,980 --> 00:45:45,560
Yes, so as you can see on this aerial map, the part that they've been talking about is on Main Street called Mojavea State's Park.

593
00:45:47,460 --> 00:45:54,560
And Tiffany and Chuck and Joseph met with the land owner Steve Camp,

594
00:45:55,420 --> 00:46:00,320
who owns that piece of the highlighted piece of property right behind the park

595
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:10,180
as well as the property to the north of that, and he is conceptually willing to allow us to

596
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:19,040
develop something on that park, but almost kind of like the community garden that we currently have,

597
00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:27,520
it would be as long as he's not doing anything with the property. So we wouldn't we wouldn't

598
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:35,860
the property. But we could do something to develop it. So we don't have the cost estimate for it

599
00:46:35,860 --> 00:46:44,340
now. We needed him to sign off on this conceptual drawing first. Some of the major costs involved

600
00:46:44,340 --> 00:46:51,900
with this would be getting the irrigation line where it needs to go. We as a parks department

601
00:46:51,900 --> 00:47:00,020
would love to have a greenhouse for the city. We could do a lot of replanting, filling in holes in our

602
00:47:00,020 --> 00:47:07,280
in our current landscapes. And we could grow them all from seedlings and Joseph has experience

603
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:13,840
up with it. He was the greenhouse guy in St. George for a couple of years. So we'd love to have a

604
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:20,420
greenhouse as part of this. So it would need some power to it. So we think the power getting the power

605
00:47:20,420 --> 00:47:28,480
there would be a pretty decent cost and then getting the irrigation lines, but like we did

606
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:35,940
down at the community garden, we could level the ground reasonable cost, all the wood

607
00:47:35,940 --> 00:47:44,930
chips would be donated from local landscape companies. So we could mulch it, we would have

608
00:47:44,930 --> 00:47:55,330
up and add them group as well as the gardeners, help us mark, mark and stake out plots, Mike Scott has some experience with that, so we had to lean on his experience.

609
00:47:57,070 --> 00:48:04,950
So I don't know what it would cost, but it could be super exciting for the next at least five years.

610
00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:12,430
What we have in our initial agreement but again Steve has to sign off on it is that it would

611
00:48:12,430 --> 00:48:21,530
be for sure five years and after that it would just keep rolling one year terms but he would

612
00:48:21,530 --> 00:48:26,210
just have to give us like six months and then we could let the gardeners know that you know

613
00:48:26,210 --> 00:48:32,150
six months this this is going to go back to the to the property owner is this St George city council

614
00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:42,290
Steve Camp? No, he's a resident of Ivan's. He's been on Ivan's inspired and yeah, so this would be a lease.

615
00:48:42,290 --> 00:48:50,830
This would be, yeah, and what we have in the initial agreement, again Steve has to agree to it.

616
00:48:51,310 --> 00:48:58,610
And from our understanding from the meeting is he would just kind of allow us to use this land without us paying him.

617
00:48:59,550 --> 00:49:03,450
But we would have better, but we would have to put in all of the infrastructure.

618
00:49:03,630 --> 00:49:04,690
Sure, sure.

619
00:49:05,470 --> 00:49:05,850
So, Mayor?

620
00:49:06,350 --> 00:49:06,510
Yes.

621
00:49:07,270 --> 00:49:14,510
Mark, could you or maybe Lorraine speak to how popular successful the current community garden is?

622
00:49:14,850 --> 00:49:26,490
Yeah, I'll speak to when I got here in 2024 it was in the middle of the summer and we had one gardener at the community garden and it was a weed nightmare.

623
00:49:26,490 --> 00:49:29,710
And I'll let Lorraine speak to the last two years.

624
00:49:29,830 --> 00:49:31,450
Lorraine come on up.

625
00:49:34,830 --> 00:49:40,430
And Lorraine Sanders is our volunteer garden master or has been for the last two years

626
00:49:40,430 --> 00:49:42,970
making this garden stress successful.

627
00:49:42,990 --> 00:49:46,510
And I can't stand you're moving. Who told you you could do that?

628
00:49:46,650 --> 00:49:48,250
Well, not certainly not Mike.

629
00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:50,290
Not certainly not.

630
00:49:51,470 --> 00:49:53,210
Yeah, the garden's been very popular.

631
00:49:53,550 --> 00:49:56,710
We've had a full garden for the past two years now.

632
00:49:57,730 --> 00:49:59,970
Interestingly, we had one lady who had...

633
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:21,200
To drop out earlier this year because of health problems on part of her husband. But she was so excited by the whole gardening thing. She herself recruited somebody to come in and take over her plot and keep it going because she just really appreciated the whole experience. So it's been very popular.

634
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:28,480
our first year we had quite a wait list and this year we haven't had a wait list but we filled

635
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:38,400
every spot so that's worked out well. What's also, I want to be sure I mentioned, I don't believe

636
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:44,200
we've really and might maybe you can confirm this. I don't think we've really had any complaints

637
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:50,700
from the desert rose subdivision which directly abuts on the garden. I think initially,

638
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:57,180
there were maybe some concerns, would it be noisy, would it be disruptive, whatever, but

639
00:50:57,180 --> 00:51:02,620
I know nobody from the only time anybody from desert rose approached me was we had a leak

640
00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:09,000
and they called to let us know because it was running into their backyard and we were so glad

641
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:17,700
they called to let us know, but I don't believe there's going to be any pushback from the neighbors

642
00:51:17,700 --> 00:51:25,240
because first off, there's quite a tall wall behind these houses. I mean really to even see

643
00:51:25,240 --> 00:51:30,760
into that. You have to get a ladder and look up over the wall. Second, as you can see,

644
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:37,820
there's parking. So it's not going to be cars along the street in front of people's houses,

645
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:43,460
things like that. And that is the same way with the garden now. We haven't had any issues with that.

646
00:51:43,460 --> 00:51:49,700
In fact, I will confess, I don't think I've seen more than two cars at a time at the garden.

647
00:51:50,860 --> 00:51:57,980
So, you know, there's been plenty of parking for the gardeners, and I encourage everybody

648
00:51:57,980 --> 00:51:59,200
to stop by and take a look.

649
00:51:59,420 --> 00:52:02,280
It really, I think, is quite a beautiful space.

650
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:11,820
Can you tell me how the size of this new proposal for the new garden compares with what the size

651
00:52:11,820 --> 00:52:19,760
what you have now. I'm a plus. Right now, we only have 20 spots. This has 30

652
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:27,140
plus the bigger squares spots there. So this is quite a bit bigger. Also, we certainly

653
00:52:27,140 --> 00:52:35,240
don't have any greenhouses out at the current space. So yeah, this is just size, wise,

654
00:52:35,460 --> 00:52:40,720
and mark can certainly confirm this. But I'm almost thinking this square footage is twice

655
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:40,920
This

656
00:52:45,340 --> 00:52:54,160
one's, I know this one's 0.85 of an acre and I would have to, I'd have to get on maps and see how big the other one is.

657
00:52:54,680 --> 00:53:05,320
But like Larry and said, we have 21 spaces and so I would say it's probably like, this is like a third bigger than what the other one has about.

658
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:06,160
Great.

659
00:53:07,420 --> 00:53:10,680
So Lauren will you be bringing the gofers to this new garden?

660
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:18,160
You know, I actually had a discussion with my husband today because he was very excited to hear about this

661
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:22,380
and he did look at me and say, what about the go first?

662
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:23,840
And I can only help.

663
00:53:24,380 --> 00:53:29,200
They're so prevalent in the current garden and I can only hope there's going to be fewer.

664
00:53:30,700 --> 00:53:36,820
I did not see any go for mounds when I went out on, uh, what was it just yesterday?

665
00:53:44,620 --> 00:53:52,560
They're everywhere, I mean, they're just, they're a fact of life, they really are so.

666
00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:54,720
And there's ways to mitigate them that are kind.

667
00:53:55,820 --> 00:53:56,300
Yep, yep.

668
00:53:56,660 --> 00:53:59,880
And sorry, how much longer do we have you?

669
00:54:00,100 --> 00:54:06,300
We actually did our portion of the closing on our new house today, and our seller is supposed

670
00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:10,060
to do his part tomorrow, so probably in about a month.

671
00:54:10,060 --> 00:54:20,020
Okay. Well, we can't thank you enough for all of your contributions to our community in general and to this community garden.

672
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:26,800
Specifically, I was hoping that your husband would be so excited when he saw this that he changed his mind.

673
00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:32,880
And if you know of anybody that you could recommend for, we'd certainly be grateful.

674
00:54:33,940 --> 00:54:35,640
And please don't lose touch with Ivan.

675
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:40,920
Oh, certainly not. Certainly not. This is, this is, this is going to be a huge

676
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:46,780
paying for me. Just not seeing this through. Because I just, I have no doubt

677
00:54:46,780 --> 00:54:52,340
about this group, right? That really is going to do amazing things here. And of course

678
00:54:52,340 --> 00:54:56,260
the park's department has just been magnificent in this whole garden.

679
00:54:56,260 --> 00:54:58,820
We can fly right into the St. George Airport anytime.

680
00:54:59,140 --> 00:54:59,980
And I have...

681
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:25,760
I have a very nice concedent that I can make sure we have your contact information, so we can invite you to ribbon cuttings and openings and everything. Certainly. And Mike and I are working in Mark also to try to find somebody to take over. If you all know of anybody, send them my way. I'm happy to do a transition and everything. Best of luck to you. Thank you so much. Council, any other questions?

682
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:26,880
to add question from Mark.

683
00:55:27,380 --> 00:55:28,600
What's our, and you might not know

684
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:29,860
those soft up your head, so I apologize.

685
00:55:29,940 --> 00:55:32,020
What's our current allocation for the garden?

686
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,720
Yeah, so we would probably have to take,

687
00:55:35,720 --> 00:55:38,160
like look at our RAP tax funds.

688
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,960
And then possibly we could talk to Kate

689
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,440
and see if there's any capital savings funds

690
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,380
or anything from last year, but like currently,

691
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,440
we don't allocate a ton of money to add

692
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:52,560
the current community garden

693
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,420
because all the infrastructure was in place.

694
00:55:54,420 --> 00:55:59,620
And we were able to fix it all up with just our operating budget last year.

695
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:07,540
We allocate time for the guys to go down and pull weeds and spread wood chips and different things.

696
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:13,020
But for something new like this, we definitely have to figure out the funding for it.

697
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:18,600
And if you think it's something that could be self-sufficient with the income that we're making off of,

698
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,100
we're making this being generated off of renting the space,

699
00:56:22,380 --> 00:56:23,280
like, well, pay for itself,

700
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,460
or is it something that will have to pay for every year?

701
00:56:27,580 --> 00:56:31,480
I think we would, I think we would be able to offset

702
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,700
the operating and maintenance cost of it,

703
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,380
maybe the water costs and stuff,

704
00:56:35,900 --> 00:56:38,160
but as far as the initial infrastructure,

705
00:56:38,460 --> 00:56:40,360
it would take probably a long time to pay that off.

706
00:56:42,660 --> 00:56:46,220
I'd like to suggest that for the long term,

707
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:47,720
because you say we've got five years,

708
00:56:47,900 --> 00:56:49,620
and then after that it's rolling, we don't know.

709
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:55,620
consider a community garden of reasonable size that Arrowhead Park.

710
00:56:56,100 --> 00:57:01,920
It seems like the logical place for it and it's not centrally located but the population

711
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:07,160
around there is going to be growing a lot over the next few years I think it's a good spot

712
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,280
for it.

713
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:09,160
Absolutely.

714
00:57:10,140 --> 00:57:11,000
Any other questions?

715
00:57:12,580 --> 00:57:13,040
Thank you Mark.

716
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:19,520
So next step is we'll get the agreement with Steve and we'll start looking at numbers.

717
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:26,640
Yeah, so I guess my, my number one question is, is this something the Council wants us to continue to pursue?

718
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:31,200
Being another place that might be a temporary basis.

719
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:39,540
And if so then we'll get the numbers and we'll go over that in maybe a budget amendment season,

720
00:57:40,380 --> 00:57:44,660
or because we probably would want to get it up and going by next growing season.

721
00:57:44,660 --> 00:57:53,480
But if it's not, then I guess we could do it just through the budget process and get it up and going for the next fall or winter.

722
00:57:54,060 --> 00:57:54,380
So.

723
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,560
I think it bears exploration continuing moving for council.

724
00:57:58,840 --> 00:57:59,620
Do you feel the same?

725
00:57:59,940 --> 00:58:00,620
We need a motion.

726
00:58:01,420 --> 00:58:01,720
Brian.

727
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,920
No, certainly just direction direction.

728
00:58:05,420 --> 00:58:07,320
And I guess I should have recorded that.

729
00:58:07,620 --> 00:58:10,340
I should have reported that I had a conflict of interest at the beginning.

730
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:11,740
So I can't call it that.

731
00:58:11,740 --> 00:58:15,020
Obviously, I'm totally in favor of this concept.

732
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,220
I'm just interested in the dollars, I just want to know how much that cost.

733
00:58:19,420 --> 00:58:20,780
Yeah, absolutely. It's-

734
00:58:20,780 --> 00:58:21,420
We'll send it out.

735
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:22,260
You have to look at that.

736
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:24,740
Thank you, Marks.

737
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:33,620
Okay, moving forward, item 5C, continue discussion regarding the fire station remodel and expansion.

738
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:43,420
So I don't have anything new to update on the building itself, because we're still kind of in this period of waiting for the engineers to do their thing.

739
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,940
But I'm pretty sure Sharon's got some updates on the fundraiser.

740
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,340
Well, I have a couple of updates over all.

741
00:58:51,340 --> 00:58:53,900
So let's talk about the public works meeting.

742
00:58:53,900 --> 00:58:56,160
The public safety work group meeting that we had.

743
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:57,540
It was a great meeting.

744
00:58:57,540 --> 00:59:03,700
We held it here, and it was Dave Mayerweight and Brock from Santa Clara,

745
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:11,040
and myself filling in for Dylan Mayer Smith, Mike Scott, and Chuck Gillette.

746
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:15,280
So, we determined a date for our joint meeting.

747
00:59:15,740 --> 00:59:22,620
It will be October 22nd, so mark your calendars, at 530 at the Ivan's Fire Station.

748
00:59:23,460 --> 00:59:30,000
We'll have brief just update presentations from both Chief Dudley and Chief Kazeer.

749
00:59:31,260 --> 00:59:36,260
Then we'll have kind of moving to kind of do the annual update, you know, the official annual

750
00:59:36,260 --> 00:59:40,240
update, and then we'll move to kind of just an open house where people can look at the

751
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:46,440
photographs and the images and ask questions and get kind of a tour of whatever they want

752
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:53,240
with the firehouse and then the council's will move to the police station for a little

753
00:59:55,220 --> 00:59:59,560
thank you meal for all of us so just keep that on your

754
01:00:01,810 --> 01:00:11,190
On your calendars, please. The fundraiser is going to kick into place on heritage states. Hopefully.

755
01:00:11,910 --> 01:00:16,010
And thank you, Chuck, for your help and your team's help getting some things lined up.

756
01:00:16,130 --> 01:00:28,770
So that's where we're going to kind of launch it in terms of selling hats and having envelopes available in the QR codes and anyone that comes by.

757
01:00:28,770 --> 01:00:32,690
It's likely they may get tackled by me, not really.

758
01:00:33,470 --> 01:00:35,050
So we're excited about that.

759
01:00:35,050 --> 01:00:40,290
And then we placed a save the date in the Kanta Connection

760
01:00:40,290 --> 01:00:43,950
for the event that we're having in Kanta in October

761
01:00:44,770 --> 01:00:45,890
for that group.

762
01:00:46,510 --> 01:00:50,250
And we'll be getting more details on that as well.

763
01:00:50,830 --> 01:00:52,390
But things continued to move forward.

764
01:00:52,570 --> 01:00:58,210
I mean, I thought it was a very, very productive joint meeting.

765
01:00:58,210 --> 01:01:02,190
There were no issues on contention, everyone was in agreement.

766
01:01:02,330 --> 01:01:09,230
We learned a lot about the goals from Chief Kazeer and what his needs are.

767
01:01:11,850 --> 01:01:18,550
And some things that are coming down the pipe for Chief Sudley as it relates to the county

768
01:01:18,550 --> 01:01:21,730
task force and detective news.

769
01:01:24,570 --> 01:01:29,910
And we did get a commitment from Brock that by the November meeting that he'll be ready to

770
01:01:29,910 --> 01:01:31,270
talk about animal services.

771
01:01:32,170 --> 01:01:34,330
He is kind of drinking from the fire hose right now

772
01:01:34,330 --> 01:01:36,710
because he's the finance director and city manager.

773
01:01:36,970 --> 01:01:39,710
If you can imagine doing both those jobs, no, thank you.

774
01:01:41,130 --> 01:01:45,070
So he admittedly said he has put it on the back burner.

775
01:01:45,350 --> 01:01:46,270
And it's totally respect that.

776
01:01:46,310 --> 01:01:48,230
And I had a conversation with Council Member Hinton

777
01:01:48,230 --> 01:01:51,730
about it as well, just to kind of put a bug in her ear.

778
01:01:52,530 --> 01:01:58,640
And also, I think you will see there's

779
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:04,580
lot of social media around the EMS tax in St. George. So they're going to add that to work

780
01:02:04,580 --> 01:02:11,400
meeting today. It'll be interesting to see where that particular topic lands for them

781
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,800
because it has been passed in several other cities.

782
01:02:18,100 --> 01:02:21,260
So as far as the shelter goes, they did meet

783
01:02:21,260 --> 01:02:28,160
with Captain Rogers to determine he walked them through everything they would need to do to restore

784
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:36,800
that shelter to the status that the state, not us, but the state is requiring for no kill

785
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:43,520
shelters at this point in time. And then we set dates for future work meetings and

786
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,180
Dylan, I'll get those to you since you're the official person.

787
01:02:46,500 --> 01:02:48,300
Yeah, I think Chuck got him on the calendar.

788
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,580
We got him on the, I had Brenda put him on the calendar. I think she said invites to the

789
01:02:52,580 --> 01:02:53,300
the work group.

790
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,020
Mike, any other comments that you've covered?

791
01:02:56,220 --> 01:02:57,360
Chuck, anything I missed?

792
01:02:57,540 --> 01:02:59,580
No, that sounds great.

793
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:01,640
Thank you for covering for me, Sharon.

794
01:03:01,980 --> 01:03:06,080
I enjoyed it, and I behaved, didn't I?

795
01:03:07,140 --> 01:03:07,960
I behaved.

796
01:03:08,780 --> 01:03:11,580
I know it's rare, but I can do it.

797
01:03:17,150 --> 01:03:18,750
Anything else on the fire station?

798
01:03:18,750 --> 01:03:21,550
we model expansion, and fundraiser, any questions, concerns?

799
01:03:22,170 --> 01:03:26,450
Okay, moving forward, item 5D, discussion regarding progress

800
01:03:26,450 --> 01:03:28,890
of updating the land use plan,

801
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:31,600
Matt.

802
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:32,420
Comments?

803
01:03:32,780 --> 01:03:33,980
Council Member Hurt.

804
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:41,120
Yes, Commissioner Robinson and I, we got our survey out.

805
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:46,520
We got our list, things to Council on Barton, 165 registered businesses

806
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,000
is who we've emailed.

807
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:50,780
We got 11 responses.

808
01:03:51,100 --> 01:03:54,180
Back, Hammett got a response from Studley

809
01:03:54,180 --> 01:03:56,300
from porch farms, yet.

810
01:03:56,500 --> 01:03:57,020
Don't know why.

811
01:03:57,460 --> 01:04:00,800
That's taken too long, but we're excited to get all the responses.

812
01:04:01,780 --> 01:04:05,500
Obviously, we want a big sample to base our decisions off of.

813
01:04:05,580 --> 01:04:07,160
So hopefully, we'll continue to generate more.

814
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:09,880
So we kind of divided into three groups.

815
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,240
We're contacting the business owners directly

816
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:13,000
with one survey.

817
01:04:13,220 --> 01:04:15,760
We had one for commercial property owners

818
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,460
that doesn't have any commercial property developed yet.

819
01:04:19,740 --> 01:04:22,900
And then we have a survey for commercial development

820
01:04:22,900 --> 01:04:24,740
that already has property on it.

821
01:04:25,420 --> 01:04:27,020
So we've divided in the three groups.

822
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,380
So far we're just meeting with and interacting

823
01:04:29,380 --> 01:04:30,920
with the business owners themselves,

824
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,620
where a next step is to try and identify

825
01:04:34,580 --> 01:04:36,620
contact information for the land owners

826
01:04:36,620 --> 01:04:37,560
for the commercial property.

827
01:04:37,660 --> 01:04:38,980
So that's kind of the next steps.

828
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:46,300
In terms of my part that I own is to get images and pictures.

829
01:04:46,300 --> 01:04:59,980
So I was at the Housing Conference in midway this week and connected with a lot of different parts of the state and different cities, different companies, different builders, different developers.

830
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:08,720
First, to get some, hopefully, really good images being emailed to me so that we can look through them and see what fit

831
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:16,020
sivins, what does it fit Ivan's, and have those ready for our future meeting and community meetings.

832
01:05:16,700 --> 01:05:17,500
Anything from you, Mayor?

833
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:28,000
All I'd say is that that business survey is great, even though it's the beginning, and we only have a few responses at this point, those responses are still hugely informative.

834
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:35,680
And there'll be more so this is this was a great thing to do. Thank you. Yeah, at the request of commissioner

835
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:45,480
Flan on those Perry. I don't know who's last name Brown. I'm going to give it to you in a word doc next time. Just so it's easier to read and and

836
01:05:46,580 --> 01:05:48,420
Kind of process it

837
01:05:49,540 --> 01:05:53,540
Good information already. Yeah, it's been great. Yeah

838
01:05:53,540 --> 01:05:55,980
Anything else on the land use map

839
01:05:57,290 --> 01:06:12,350
Okay, I just want to thank you to Councilmember Scott for putting together that memo and giving us some guidance on some good resources to review and reflect on as we go forward with the land use planning.

840
01:06:12,450 --> 01:06:13,090
Okay.

841
01:06:13,670 --> 01:06:15,750
I forward to those to Matt Lewis well.

842
01:06:16,230 --> 01:06:18,090
Oh, I said it's a little light reading.

843
01:06:19,010 --> 01:06:19,150
Yeah.

844
01:06:20,790 --> 01:06:25,530
Just to keep him fresh in terms of our focus and

845
01:06:25,530 --> 01:06:32,590
Sharon question about Matt actually got a question from a resident actually couple how did we go about

846
01:06:34,030 --> 01:06:37,730
Getting his help like what's right. Can you kind of share that story sure background?

847
01:06:38,050 --> 01:06:48,090
So Rob Dally Chuck. We've all known Matt Lou for a very long time. He's a very well known in the community very well known. Very educated in the land use space

848
01:06:49,250 --> 01:06:54,890
And so we also got names from the planning commission in

849
01:06:55,530 --> 01:07:03,610
Santa Clara for some other individuals to contact, to help us, again, not tell us what to do,

850
01:07:03,830 --> 01:07:08,650
but be a facilitator or a guide, help facilitate community meetings and things like that.

851
01:07:09,470 --> 01:07:17,770
So, while Chuck was on holiday, I reached out to the ones that, to all of them, to get information,

852
01:07:18,470 --> 01:07:21,890
and their fees, excuse me, and their fees, what they charge,

853
01:07:22,830 --> 01:07:24,510
et cetera, so we got that information.

854
01:07:25,690 --> 01:07:32,030
And we had a mat offered to do kind of a brainstorming meeting

855
01:07:32,030 --> 01:07:34,710
before our initial work meeting at No Charge,

856
01:07:35,350 --> 01:07:37,110
just to help just kind of brainstorm.

857
01:07:38,930 --> 01:07:41,910
And we felt very kind, and then during that meeting,

858
01:07:42,030 --> 01:07:46,130
he offered to serve helping us at No Charge going forward.

859
01:07:46,130 --> 01:08:08,150
as long as we don't abuse him, and so based on that and the budget and some of the numbers that we were offered by some of the other consultants, if you will, it was a very high amount to the tune of $40,000-$50,000 for consulting fees, which I respect, having been in that role before.

860
01:08:08,930 --> 01:08:17,730
But we also felt like we wanted someone that knows Ivan's, right, as opposed to someone from

861
01:08:17,730 --> 01:08:23,230
up north and Matt living here and having lived here, having built here, developed here,

862
01:08:23,350 --> 01:08:26,290
et cetera, we felt like that was a good fit.

863
01:08:26,510 --> 01:08:28,410
And it's on an as needed basis.

864
01:08:28,810 --> 01:08:32,270
If we need him, we call him, and if we don't, we don't.

865
01:08:32,950 --> 01:08:38,410
So, he's completely free for a group to come to our meeting.

866
01:08:38,910 --> 01:08:39,010
Right.

867
01:08:39,630 --> 01:08:40,450
Yeah, it's awesome.

868
01:08:40,890 --> 01:08:42,850
I mean, if we asked him to do something outside of the meeting,

869
01:08:42,970 --> 01:08:43,910
he might be too charged.

870
01:08:44,210 --> 01:08:45,010
Depending on the scope.

871
01:08:45,490 --> 01:08:48,270
And if we need to get there, we'll go to the scope of work,

872
01:08:48,430 --> 01:08:50,470
but we know his hourly rate is very reasonable.

873
01:08:52,850 --> 01:08:54,410
And very reasonable.

874
01:08:54,990 --> 01:08:58,910
So, if the scope becomes more that we need from him,

875
01:08:59,030 --> 01:09:01,430
we've got that available to us as well.

876
01:09:01,430 --> 01:09:29,270
And I know Matt knows everyone, like he literally knows everyone, is there concern, just, I mean, just being transparent, is there concern that he has overlapped with SITLA or, you know, that came up, it's a great question that came up, the fact that he's not directing us what to do, we're directing us what to do, and he is only helping facilitate, we felt that that was not a conflict, and he's not going to direct us what to do on SITLA, he's helping us with Ivan's.

877
01:09:29,270 --> 01:09:39,030
Yeah. Thank you. Good question. Yeah. Anything on yes? No. That's perfect. Good. Yeah. Good question. Thank you.

878
01:09:41,420 --> 01:09:45,060
Okay. So we're going to move to item six the consent agenda.

879
01:09:47,220 --> 01:09:55,260
Approval of City Council and Planning Commission joint work minute work meeting minutes for August 20th and approval of City Council meetings for August 20th.

880
01:09:55,260 --> 01:09:58,300
There I move that we approve the concept agenda.

881
01:09:59,520 --> 01:09:59,900
Second.

882
01:10:00,370 --> 01:10:10,450
All in favour? Aye. Aye. Consent agenda is passed. Okay, report. Start with council member Pennington.

883
01:10:11,010 --> 01:10:13,510
I think do report. Thank you. Council member hurt?

884
01:10:14,090 --> 01:10:25,910
I am just regarding heritage days. So I got some exciting news. I can add to Chief Stubley's number. My wife and I are expecting. So that's why I didn't make the meeting.

885
01:10:27,530 --> 01:10:30,530
But because of that, I have a conflict with Heritage Day.

886
01:10:30,690 --> 01:10:34,410
So I'll be able to be at the dinner, but I won't be able to make the parade.

887
01:10:34,810 --> 01:10:36,510
I got an appointment and we have a soccer game.

888
01:10:36,670 --> 01:10:39,630
So I got a total of congratulations.

889
01:10:40,450 --> 01:10:42,810
And then it's helping our standard of not being in the same place.

890
01:10:43,050 --> 01:10:43,470
That man and girlfriend.

891
01:10:43,490 --> 01:10:43,790
Exactly.

892
01:10:44,170 --> 01:10:44,530
I'm not.

893
01:10:44,810 --> 01:10:45,170
I'm not.

894
01:10:45,750 --> 01:10:48,070
When you have been out twice, it's much candy.

895
01:10:49,310 --> 01:10:49,430
No.

896
01:10:49,930 --> 01:10:55,030
So what concerns me is that tonight, the two of you are here, but Kevin's not.

897
01:10:55,910 --> 01:11:00,010
So, all three of you have never been in the same room.

898
01:11:02,980 --> 01:11:04,760
Congratulations, that's fantastic.

899
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:05,820
Thank you.

900
01:11:05,980 --> 01:11:07,200
Council member Barton.

901
01:11:07,540 --> 01:11:11,260
It's one of remind everybody that Heritage Days is next week.

902
01:11:11,980 --> 01:11:14,460
And Friday is our hot dog really nice.

903
01:11:14,700 --> 01:11:18,120
And I need everyone there by 415-430.

904
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:23,040
And then for the parade, it would be great if everyone could be there by 830.

905
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:29,040
Parking is probably going to be a little bit of an issue so plan for that and again our

906
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,280
medium point is 100 north and 100 west.

907
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:40,820
I also just wanted to thank residents of our Dale and Fran Crum.

908
01:11:41,380 --> 01:11:49,360
They are Ivan's residents and active members of the Color Country Corvette Club and instead

909
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:55,040
of doing talk about, I do walk about, quite a bit, with my dog and run it all my neighbors

910
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,140
and it's so wonderful.

911
01:11:57,380 --> 01:12:05,020
Most of them are wanting to hear discuss issues and hear some, be part of the solution

912
01:12:05,700 --> 01:12:11,960
and Dale and Fran, we're so appreciative of all the work that they and support they've gotten

913
01:12:13,180 --> 01:12:17,760
from our wonderful police department that they've put together this whole dinner for them

914
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:24,340
last Friday. It was pulled pork and three different types of hogees and fruit salad and potato salad

915
01:12:24,340 --> 01:12:33,160
and the huge tray of homemade goodies. And then Dale was asking about heritage days. I said

916
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:40,000
you've got to come to the car show and he's signed up for four people to bring their corvettes to the.

917
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:47,080
So it's just one of those things. This is why we love being Ivan's. So thank you Dale and

918
01:12:48,060 --> 01:12:53,160
All right, well, I can't wait to serve hot dogs and we got our shirts. We have our shirts.

919
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:57,900
We want to wear those in the parade. Okay. Don't have to wear them. Don't wear them.

920
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:01,020
I'm fighting. Don't wear them. Don't wear them. You don't want mustard on them.

921
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:06,480
No, for the parade. Trust me, as a mustard and queen, you cannot get mustard out.

922
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:13,400
So, how's the member Scott? No reports. So, I have a lengthy report, but I'm going to spare you

923
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:21,060
Because I know we're excited about having a short meeting for a change, I just want to give you a couple of updates.

924
01:13:21,220 --> 01:13:24,960
I did go to the housing conference this week, and I was really glad I went.

925
01:13:25,460 --> 01:13:29,420
It was in midway, which is a darling place if you ever get a chance to go up there.

926
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:34,720
It's just adorable and they're having their Swiss days this weekend, so it was a go-in concern.

927
01:13:35,940 --> 01:13:41,880
There were two speakers that moved me so incredibly.

928
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:49,240
One was Steve Turner, and his non-for-profit is called Bring Back the Trades.

929
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:56,800
Not only is his personal story inspirational, and I can send you his TED Talk link, but

930
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:58,540
what he's created is amazing.

931
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:05,300
He's talking about, for every five trades people that leave retire only two are coming in.

932
01:14:05,500 --> 01:14:10,760
It's going to impact everything that happens in our future, especially construction.

933
01:14:11,820 --> 01:14:19,400
And he goes out and talks to high schools about college and traits, because we need both.

934
01:14:20,620 --> 01:14:22,340
And it was so interesting.

935
01:14:23,020 --> 01:14:27,920
His background, he has severe learning disabilities, and so school wasn't for him.

936
01:14:28,140 --> 01:14:30,540
And how he got involved in this was fascinating.

937
01:14:30,940 --> 01:14:36,760
So I'll send you the link to his TED Talk, and it was interesting, because I was listening to the news the next morning

938
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:43,340
I was getting dressed for the conference and the CEO of Lowe's, the Home Good Store, was on

939
01:14:43,340 --> 01:14:45,660
the news talking about the same thing.

940
01:14:45,900 --> 01:14:52,240
So there's a heavy emphasis right now on backing the trade.

941
01:14:52,460 --> 01:14:53,280
So that was fascinating.

942
01:14:53,980 --> 01:14:59,260
The other gentleman that I heard speak equally fascinating was a gentleman by the name of Dante Scott.

943
01:14:59,260 --> 01:14:59,960
he wrote

944
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:06,900
Once the housing assistance corp in Las Vegas, again an incredible personal story he was incarcerated

945
01:15:06,900 --> 01:15:14,880
at the age of 15 for 10 years. And he used that time as his college education. He watched

946
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:22,860
the home network, home goods network where he flip houses and build houses, he took notes, he researched

947
01:15:22,860 --> 01:15:32,480
everything and that's what he started when he got out of prison and he has started a program called

948
01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:38,900
beautify the block in one of the worst parts of Las Vegas so I can send you a link on that too so

949
01:15:38,900 --> 01:15:44,780
that was fascinating. Overall the conference there was some good information, a lot of different

950
01:15:44,780 --> 01:15:52,640
perspectives, strong presence of nonprofits, developers, builders and a lot of city representatives as

951
01:15:52,640 --> 01:16:00,600
Well, just a couple of key presentations that I attended, Steve Walder, had a very key presentation

952
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:05,920
that Housing Strategy 2026, he had Representative Warg, Representative Roberts, Representative

953
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:12,360
Co-Ford, and Representative Eschamellia there, talking about what's working and what's

954
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:20,720
not working and I did was able to have a conversation with about what's happening on the

955
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:27,260
concerning and there's some things that we could learn from it and things that will help

956
01:16:27,260 --> 01:16:32,280
us going forward as well. So I'll talk with you about that later. A couple of things

957
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:39,380
that are legislative wise that we can see coming forward and this backs up with I've had

958
01:16:39,380 --> 01:16:45,880
two Utah League of Cities and towns meetings in the last two weeks as well. Representative

959
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:49,780
the word believes that the way we permit is leading to higher cost.

960
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,820
And no surprise there, they're still believing the cities.

961
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:58,320
But he would like his goal of legislation as he wants to see small

962
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:02,700
plots placed in any residential land use as permitted or

963
01:17:02,700 --> 01:17:03,680
conditional use.

964
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:10,120
So we have that to look forward to in the upcoming legislative

965
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:10,860
session.

966
01:17:10,860 --> 01:17:23,080
And Steve Waldott spoke to the complexity of ordinances over time once they were five pages now their 56 pages as an example and of course I raised my hand and said,

967
01:17:23,440 --> 01:17:31,380
how many of those were federal or state driven? It's not all city driven. Let's change our focus a little bit.

968
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:37,380
They talked about the first time buyer fund that was started two years ago that was to help people with the down payment.

969
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:44,480
It helped people get into a house, but it didn't help anything to reduce the cost of housing.

970
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:46,520
So I'm not sure where they'll look at.

971
01:17:46,860 --> 01:17:50,800
There was a great program on the 21st century road to housing act, the federal act.

972
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:57,780
As you know, one of the keys was to ban institutional investors from buying single-family homes,

973
01:17:58,220 --> 01:18:01,120
not sure exactly how they're going to control that.

974
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:07,380
But OK, the challenge now is that it does no longer apply

975
01:18:07,380 --> 01:18:12,280
to build to rent properties or short-term rentals.

976
01:18:12,460 --> 01:18:14,700
And that's what we were hoping to control,

977
01:18:14,820 --> 01:18:16,400
that now they've taken that away.

978
01:18:16,460 --> 01:18:19,040
So that's very concerning for our community.

979
01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:22,020
And I want us to be mindful of that going forward.

980
01:18:22,580 --> 01:18:24,660
They talk a lot about ADUs.

981
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,520
There was a lot of talk and workout session

982
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,400
when work sessions about it, because there's

983
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:37,940
cost prohibitive to build and if you can't pay cash for it, then you have to redo your mortgage

984
01:18:37,940 --> 01:18:43,900
and you may lose your lower rate. So they're looking at the, they're looking at the focus

985
01:18:43,900 --> 01:18:51,040
being turned more to internal ADUs because the average cost of that is 30,000 versus 6,200,000

986
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:52,740
on an external ADU.

987
01:18:52,900 --> 01:18:54,260
If you have cash, that's great.

988
01:18:54,940 --> 01:18:57,240
HOAs were a hot topic.

989
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:04,180
The HOA fees have gotten out of control in our country today.

990
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:09,900
One gentleman has a complex where the fee is $1,000 a month,

991
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,500
which is just crazy to me.

992
01:19:12,620 --> 01:19:14,040
But it's coming a real concern.

993
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,360
And it's impacting affordability.

994
01:19:17,580 --> 01:19:19,540
And the more amenities you have, the more it has.

995
01:19:19,540 --> 01:19:26,780
And I got to meet with the new on Budsman, Erin Reiter, and learn a lot about her role in

996
01:19:26,780 --> 01:19:27,920
the on Budsman.

997
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:32,780
I learned a lot about deed restrictions and community land trust.

998
01:19:32,860 --> 01:19:38,560
Moab is an example of it's doing really, really well in a community land trust.

999
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:44,280
Again, working with a lot of nonprofits and conjunction with the city, but they are like

1000
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:47,340
the poster child for doing this.

1001
01:19:47,340 --> 01:19:52,640
And I've gotten a meeting set up next week with Caitlyn, I forget her last name, the person

1002
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,300
that heads that up.

1003
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:59,600
Impact fees are going to be a huge focus in the legislative session.

1004
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:06,560
According to a webinar that I was on yesterday with the Utah League, CAM says it's going to get spicy.

1005
01:20:08,020 --> 01:20:18,160
So I sent out to Mike Scott and to both Brian and Chuck a draft resolution on impact fees.

1006
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:23,240
I got it right today. I got it totally wrong yesterday, but I got it right today, so that we can take a look at that.

1007
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:36,160
I'll send it out, and then Ivan's IQ, so that's it for the house. I mean, literally I could talk about this conference for another hour, but I won't.

1008
01:20:36,380 --> 01:20:43,880
Just some really good sessions and some really good information and lots of notes, lots of good connections that I made. I was so glad I went.

1009
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:49,580
I think as I cue, we're gearing up so far we have 10-in-rolled, we launched it in the

1010
01:20:49,580 --> 01:20:53,680
Cayanton newsletter in the Ivan's newsletter and we're going to do one more big push

1011
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:55,100
next week.

1012
01:20:56,880 --> 01:21:03,540
And other than that I was offered a fantastic opportunity by the league to be a nomination

1013
01:21:03,540 --> 01:21:09,220
to the Utah Communications Authority Board and I had no idea what the heck it was.

1014
01:21:09,220 --> 01:21:16,020
But she suddenly has informed me that it's a good opportunity for Ivan's to have a voice.

1015
01:21:16,460 --> 01:21:26,580
So I have a phone call set up with Justin Lee when I get back from my travels this weekend, and I'll keep you posted on that.

1016
01:21:27,100 --> 01:21:28,640
That's all my report.

1017
01:21:30,020 --> 01:21:31,300
So you managed to check to that.

1018
01:21:32,700 --> 01:21:37,960
Yeah, a couple of things I'd like to report on first off, Sharon did not mention that she

1019
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:44,940
came in and did a training for our leadership team and staff last week ago on Wednesday.

1020
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:48,660
And I'll just say that she did a tremendous job.

1021
01:21:49,140 --> 01:21:59,140
She made us all put on blindfolds and we had some fun doing some leadership exercises.

1022
01:21:59,140 --> 01:22:08,020
Yeah. Anyway, she brings a vast knowledge and wealth of information and we really appreciate

1023
01:22:08,020 --> 01:22:18,160
her doing that. Next, I would me and Kevin Smith, we're invited with a couple of days ago. Kevin

1024
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:26,060
wasn't here this week, so I had Austin from Public Works, joined me and we went over to the

1025
01:22:26,060 --> 01:22:34,620
on this workshop seminar. I don't know what you really call it where they invited. Every city

1026
01:22:34,620 --> 01:22:40,600
to come and they laid out a map of the city and they asked, they asked us to draw where

1027
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:45,420
our centers are. And you guys have probably heard about the idea of centers. The cities

1028
01:22:45,420 --> 01:22:51,280
have centers. And it was interesting because they had these little stickers where you could

1029
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:57,380
You can basically draw on your map and put a little sticker and say, here's our centers.

1030
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:00,380
And so it was an interesting exercise.

1031
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:06,700
And I don't know, we were asking them why they were doing this.

1032
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:12,700
And part of it was they're trying to generate a overall database of the entire state

1033
01:23:12,700 --> 01:23:17,580
where all the city centers are.

1034
01:23:17,580 --> 01:23:29,020
And potentially, you know, the state's always putting different economic advantages for different projects that are in these centers.

1035
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:35,740
I don't know if it'll apply necessarily to us because a lot of them are centered around transit labs.

1036
01:23:36,340 --> 01:23:41,860
We really don't have a real big transit hub, but still we do have centers, you know.

1037
01:23:41,860 --> 01:23:49,640
And so just as we went through this process, it was pretty clear that Black Desert is a center.

1038
01:23:50,620 --> 01:23:54,860
And it may not be like in the center of our city, but it's a center.

1039
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:56,320
It's going to draw people in.

1040
01:23:57,140 --> 01:24:00,420
And honestly, there's smaller centers too.

1041
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:05,900
Even Canyon Crossing, especially when the commercial district comes in across the street from them,

1042
01:24:05,900 --> 01:24:11,860
That will someday develop that's going to be probably its own little center or maybe it's kind of combined into one center

1043
01:24:11,860 --> 01:24:18,820
And then of course, there's the property next to RV you where we've got some adjacent empty land where we

1044
01:24:19,260 --> 01:24:26,960
We've always intended to that being really kind of the city center for Ivan City, and so we circle back

1045
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:28,060
But then

1046
01:24:28,060 --> 01:24:35,820
You know even family dollar and red mountain mark and creates and then let me sure with you kind of the levels of city centers

1047
01:24:35,820 --> 01:24:37,180
that they were having a smart.

1048
01:24:37,700 --> 01:24:40,060
They said, let's mark Metro City Centers.

1049
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:41,500
Well, we didn't have, we didn't have any

1050
01:24:41,500 --> 01:24:42,480
Metro City Centers.

1051
01:24:43,060 --> 01:24:44,240
Then they had this center.

1052
01:24:44,420 --> 01:24:50,000
They called a multi-use, a multi, sorry, a mixed-use corridor.

1053
01:24:51,260 --> 01:24:53,800
And we're like, well, we don't really have a mixed-use corridor.

1054
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:56,920
But then the next level was city center.

1055
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:24,940
And then the next little below that was even like a small town center. And so we put, we put family dollar in the Red Mountain market as a neighborhood center, because it's, it probably even bigger than that, because a lot of, it's a really convenient to have those two stores in our city, but then even the K&R village is, we decided to call that a small town center.

1056
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:32,360
Maybe it's a neighborhood center, I don't know if the nomenclature really matters, but

1057
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:36,620
anyway, it was an interesting, it was an, you know, one more thing, we did actually circle

1058
01:25:36,620 --> 01:25:42,820
the civic block here where this is kind of maybe it's not a commercial center, but it's

1059
01:25:42,820 --> 01:25:44,620
a civic center for our city.

1060
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:49,700
And so, you know, we identify, you know, when I was coming to think, oh, yeah, we're not

1061
01:25:49,700 --> 01:25:53,820
going to have any centers, well really we have six centers, and none of them are metro centers

1062
01:25:53,820 --> 01:26:00,160
or, you know, really dense populated areas, but we do have centers.

1063
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:02,080
So who sponsored this?

1064
01:26:03,780 --> 01:26:08,080
I know that, I'm not sure if they were from Utah, they talked about Utah, they were from

1065
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:08,840
the state, though.

1066
01:26:09,140 --> 01:26:09,160
Okay.

1067
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:10,480
Oh wait, I don't remember now.

1068
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:12,520
It was the governor's office.

1069
01:26:12,540 --> 01:26:12,840
Okay.

1070
01:26:13,500 --> 01:26:15,440
They were planning in budget office, yeah.

1071
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:21,120
So anyway, it was an interesting exercise.

1072
01:26:24,140 --> 01:26:31,660
I think I had told you several weeks ago that we were looking at updating the sign ordinance.

1073
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:37,900
And Caitlin's back by the way, Caitlin's back from the turn of the lead.

1074
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:46,320
We had a meeting on Monday now that she was back and kind of sat down and kind of talked about enforcement of the sign ordinance and some of the challenges that we're seeing.

1075
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:54,620
And we actually came to the conclusion that maybe we don't need, there was one thing that

1076
01:26:54,620 --> 01:26:59,560
we thought we might need to update the sign ordinance on, which is if we end up being able

1077
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:07,200
to do a mural on our fire station, we do think we need to carve out an exception for the

1078
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:07,700
mural.

1079
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:14,800
But otherwise, we kind of walked away from that thinking our sign ordinance is okay.

1080
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:19,500
It's pretty clear.

1081
01:27:19,860 --> 01:27:23,800
There's some freedom of speech issues that Brian was concerned about.

1082
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:32,460
But we can just be careful about how we enforce it so that it doesn't cause us to get into a freedom of speech lawsuit.

1083
01:27:32,460 --> 01:27:42,040
But other than changing the ordinance to allow for that mural, I'm not sure that we're going to come in with some big sweeping changes to the sign ordinance.

1084
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:55,060
So I wanted to update you on that. Also last week, I can't remember, I don't think I saw any of you come to the Conservancy District meeting, the AAC meeting.

1085
01:27:55,820 --> 01:28:08,060
There was nothing really big discussed there but we did meet and discuss some water issues and it was good to see everybody there.

1086
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:17,200
And then Sharon hinted at this that we're kind of pushing to get our social media presence bigger and broader.

1087
01:28:17,660 --> 01:28:24,900
We had a meeting actually this morning and we're going to try to get we now have a city and Ivan city.

1088
01:28:24,900 --> 01:28:31,860
Facebook page and Ivan City Instagram page and Ivan City next door neighbor and so we're

1089
01:28:31,860 --> 01:28:37,040
have a goal to get at least two posts out per week and there'll be some weeks where we'll

1090
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:43,080
be more than that. And just FYI on the Facebook page most of those were going to set up so

1091
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:47,800
that we don't allow comments because it's not really common needed. It's just like here's what's going

1092
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:54,880
on. Here's an event. Here's that. I think we should just be consistent like pick what we're

1093
01:28:54,880 --> 01:29:00,020
We're not going to do comments, the reason why is because I think if we had the staff where

1094
01:29:00,020 --> 01:29:04,300
we could have somebody monitor the comments and make sure that we're giving proper responses

1095
01:29:04,300 --> 01:29:10,420
to that, I think maybe someday we'll end up wanting to have comments, but we're such tight

1096
01:29:10,420 --> 01:29:16,700
staff, everybody's got their plates full right now, it's going to be no comments, if somebody

1097
01:29:16,700 --> 01:29:20,420
wants to make comments, they'll have to repost it and then people can make comments on

1098
01:29:20,420 --> 01:29:27,020
Right, and I'll still take the posts and share them to the Ivan's community pages.

1099
01:29:27,260 --> 01:29:29,160
There's two Ivan's community pages now.

1100
01:29:29,260 --> 01:29:32,200
So I'll still share those, and then if people want to make comments, that's fine.

1101
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:36,640
But typically what I found is they don't, because I'm just posting like heritage days,

1102
01:29:37,420 --> 01:29:42,100
or, you know, this event or that event, something pretty benign.

1103
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:44,180
So anyway.

1104
01:29:45,140 --> 01:29:45,320
Yes.

1105
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:46,160
Yes.

1106
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:46,860
Yes.

1107
01:29:46,860 --> 01:29:51,880
Could you comment on what the city was prepared to do when we had that power outage?

1108
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:59,980
Yeah, so yeah, that's a great idea. I didn't even think about bringing that up. So yeah, we have the power outage unfortunately was on a second

1109
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,320
Saturday, which wasn't super convenient, right? But we had a conversation to Dan's not here. And Chief Studley and Dan and I were keeping in contact during the power outage. We decided like, okay, if this thing goes up longer than two hours, we had talked about before opening up city hall to be a cooling center. So once it hit 730, we're like, okay, so I had to send out the yopify.

1110
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:33,500
was hoping like I could get a hold of a leash to do it and she was out of town so I was like

1111
01:30:33,500 --> 01:30:39,580
okay I know I have an account I was able to get a yopify message out through text and email

1112
01:30:39,580 --> 01:30:45,580
to notify everybody I did I was appreciative there were some people that had reposted those messages

1113
01:30:45,580 --> 01:30:53,720
on Facebook and next door neighbor and such and so at 730 we opened up the building and

1114
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:59,300
And there were three people that showed up.

1115
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:01,400
So I'm glad some people showed up.

1116
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:03,980
And I don't.

1117
01:31:04,180 --> 01:31:05,560
Did you show up?

1118
01:31:05,820 --> 01:31:06,800
You have some design?

1119
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:07,360
Talk to us.

1120
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:08,840
We're going to have.

1121
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:09,860
Come to the mic, please.

1122
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:11,800
Yeah, we have a plan.

1123
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:13,260
All right.

1124
01:31:13,480 --> 01:31:14,620
If you guys for everyone to see us.

1125
01:31:14,620 --> 01:31:18,480
Chief was texting me, and I was posting on Facebook

1126
01:31:18,480 --> 01:31:19,800
and next door in every week.

1127
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:20,700
They came in in phases.

1128
01:31:20,700 --> 01:31:27,600
So we have help from our city cert members and so what we're going to have them do is to

1129
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:34,000
staff that as volunteers. And then again, this is still in the discussion phase but we'll use

1130
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:40,960
this room to capacity and we'll do just a normal two hour window for you to come here, charge your phone

1131
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:47,800
cool off, hang out. We'll kick you out after two hours unless there's a circumstance or a

1132
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:54,860
need to obviously surpasses that and then we'll also open up the overflow in the police department to do that as well

1133
01:31:54,860 --> 01:31:58,640
But certain members will come and we'll staff that night. I think you had two members of us

1134
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:02,160
We had two members of the sir has been wife team showed up the Brooks

1135
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:08,560
I think to come here and to help facilitate and that was great. Yeah, that was really grateful that they showed up and

1136
01:32:09,540 --> 01:32:13,920
Yeah, and then the power came back on about 830 and so we only really had

1137
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:17,700
the building open for about an hour and

1138
01:32:17,700 --> 01:32:22,940
And anyway, I think it was a good thing that we did that, that we provided that service.

1139
01:32:24,060 --> 01:32:26,760
And if we have another challenge, we'll do it again.

1140
01:32:27,140 --> 01:32:27,160
Right.

1141
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:30,580
One of the things we talked about this morning when we were talking about social media, too,

1142
01:32:30,660 --> 01:32:38,820
was Yoppify, and really placing an emphasis on social media for people to understand they need

1143
01:32:38,820 --> 01:32:40,680
to give us their contact information.

1144
01:32:41,460 --> 01:32:46,260
And everybody, just about in city hall, when they touch base with someone, someone calls

1145
01:32:46,260 --> 01:32:52,460
with a question or concern, we try to verify it updated then, but pushing that out to social

1146
01:32:52,460 --> 01:32:58,340
media that if you want these alerts and updates to be coming from Ivens we're happy to

1147
01:32:58,340 --> 01:33:00,080
give them to you, but we need your phone numbers.

1148
01:33:01,440 --> 01:33:03,260
So, really beefing up, y'all will be fine.

1149
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:08,320
Yeah, it would be really great if everybody updated their phone numbers with Ivens City so

1150
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:09,960
that that could be a more effective tool.

1151
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:13,880
And we're going to put something on the website about that as well and we're also going to

1152
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:21,700
links for the Facebook page and the Instagram page and the next door on the website also.

1153
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:28,280
Yeah, that's all I had to report today.

1154
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:30,920
Anything from you, Mr. Brian Pack?

1155
01:33:31,820 --> 01:33:32,740
I don't have anything.

1156
01:33:36,070 --> 01:33:42,170
Any items to be placed on future agendas, other than the request from our resident this evening?

1157
01:33:44,630 --> 01:33:47,130
Would you just like me to read for 30 minutes or so?

1158
01:33:47,130 --> 01:33:57,190
please. All right I move we adjourn. Second motion has been made in second

1159
01:33:57,190 --> 01:34:01,650
it on favor. Hi. Have a good Labor Day weekend to everybody be safe.