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I don't think we have a, had our microphones

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on, right?

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Is everybody's microphone on now? It is.

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I don't think we have microphone. No. There we go. Whoa.

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I have your phone. There you go. Sorry, pees.

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Sorry about that. All right.

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Any comments or discussion on our December minutes?

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Anyone? No.

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All right. Motion accepted. December minutes second.

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So move second. All in favor? Aye. Abstain.

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I abstain to ab. All right. Vanilla.

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I got Okay. All it.

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Excuse me. Just try to get all these sound. There we go.

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Yeah. Forgive me guys. Was Janet saying

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that she wasn't gonna be here today?

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She looks like she's here, but not well.

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Oh, it got posted at six and I would think that's 90%.

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Well, let's, let's, let's do a,

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a quick phone call here and make sure that, uh,

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Now it'll cut back in.

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Well, we, we'll cut.

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We were calling Janet,

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why don't we skip ahead to the solicitor.

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Okay. So I circulated a letter

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with the solicitor's report.

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Uh, we did, um, get contact from the new owner

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of the Ivan Hotel who would like to set a meeting.

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They wanna start coming in to pull permits.

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They're, um, saying they're gonna make some changes.

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They, uh, essentially said that they want to try

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and, uh, one of the changes they wanna make is try

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and beef up and historic, uh, nature

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of the, of the renovations.

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Um, and so we're gonna work on setting up a meeting

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with them, um, to talk about all the issues.

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We also, talking to Janet today, it is

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announced technical difficulties.

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We need pay.

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He's got it

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difficult.

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There we go. All right. All right.

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So we also understand that as of

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December 27th, there are no longer people in

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renters in the hotel. Is that consistent with

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That may con Observation

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May be consistent with my observations,

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but it's, you know, there was, there was a lot of moving,

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moving activity going on at the end of December. They were

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Still early one Christmas C there was, yeah,

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So, right. I

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think that's right. So I, I can't be sure. It

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Was supposedly a being reported that was

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between Christmas and news.

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Okay. Um, but

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We'll, I mean, when we had the meeting, we,

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we talked about all that.

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Um, and that meeting's being facilitated by Mr.

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Italia. Yeah, I'll, uh, and I can communicate.

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I have email for the owner as well. Um,

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So, so what's the, what's the purpose

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of the meeting? Just to take the

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Meeting is to, well, I think we wanted to a,

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have a meeting with the new owner

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because I think it, that it sort of introduce to and I,

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and I think it should be a coupled council members,

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probably the president

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and the vice president, um, the, um, zoning,

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uh, building code officer.

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I'll be there. Um, and just a, to, to meet

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and discuss and also talk about the process of what he needs

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to do in order the, all the permit.

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So here,

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The reason for my question, uh, last time we ended up

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with a subcommittee.

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We were trying to expedite things at the hotel

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that turned into a little bit of ball with, but Paula,

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I'm trying to expedite anything.

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I, I think, I mean, we,

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we have such an expedited process anyway.

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We're such a smooth machine

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that I don't think we need to expedite anything.

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But I, I do think having communication

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and just make sure I,

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think with all good intent last time, I think we got,

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we got balled up a little bit.

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So, uh, I, I guess if you're gonna be there

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to make sure we stay between the

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lines, maybe that's the right thing.

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I just, that's what thinking wants. Okay.

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And why we'd only be a limited amount of counsel. Okay.

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Okay.

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Um, we're working on the animal

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controlled services contract.

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I know you're one of the control. Yeah.

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Our, you want me to join in with this part?

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Sure, that'd be great. I spoke with Mr.

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Mullin several times over the past week.

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He is very reasonable.

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He wants the, he wants to get involved with the borough.

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Um, spoke to Councilman Sice

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and, uh, buddy, but his name is Buddy in-law.

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And couple of the questions that were up in the air was,

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does he have insurance?

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He does is perfectly, he's willing

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to put argument on the policy.

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The other thing, the only thing that we had talked about,

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do we have him as a contracted employee?

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This is something council inside of him.

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Do we marcus this contract up pretty much in place?

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Uh, or do we bring him on as an on call

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so he gets paid, when does they pick up

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or whatever It's called a

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so he won't be a contracted employee

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because he's gets paid for calls.

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So wouldn't not be an employee at all if he,

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He'll be an independent Contractor Right then.

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Thanks that I was getting a little

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balled up with the, the only

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Question that, raising a good question, um,

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because we've sense, confirm that he's,

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and you may notice better that it's not, maybe it's not a

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actual, the, the, his company's not an actual,

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so the question is, do we want to engage him

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as an independent client officer

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or do we want to engage the company for the panel

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for services and

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and open to any of its employees? We could talk about that.

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So can can we engage

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someone as an officer of the borough

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if they're not elected or

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Employee the title?

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I mean, the title is officer that

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doing animal control services against. He will be,

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I guess where I was Say that he's an independent 10 99.

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I, yeah, I guess the, the question behind that was,

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if you're an animal control quote officer,

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is there any enforcement capability that he would have

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because of is it is an advantage to have it

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or a disadvantage to,

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So it's a good, it's a good point.

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The way, for instance, the way like the,

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the dog law is written, you know, it's really to, you know,

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it's the police department.

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And so, so he, it would be written

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as he's essentially an independent contractor being brought

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on to assist in those services

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with the actual representatives of the car.

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If he were some type of employee, and let's say he was away

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and, and we needed something done,

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then we have no one to do it.

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But if we, if we hire him as needed,

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if he's away, someone that works

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for him would come out and do it. That's,

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I mean, that's, that's one

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of the reasons currently the way I had it set up.

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And that was even before I realized that the,

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the entity was not an entity, it's just a T name.

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Um, but that was the idea behind it,

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which is we engaged the, the, the company

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and then obviously it, you know, we can talk

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and see if we had a backup piece away.

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He does have an employee who does work. Right.

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So that makes sense for that. Yeah.

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We would also have to set up a scape.

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He provide us, he did provide us with. Okay.

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And that's, and that would be, and, and my thought is once,

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and one of the things we want

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to get is if you can get the insurance information right,

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so we can make sure that's consistent with what we want

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to have in the agreement,

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then we can incorporate into agreement proposal.

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But then we have the fee schedule, which would be

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that we would incorporate it to the agreement.

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One of the other issues, and it sounds like

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he's got a relationship with Ken, right?

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And, and so that would be, we have

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to just figure out who's paying for what.

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Well, listen, I, I also discussed that with him after you

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and I spoke, um, when we were using warminster,

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they have, they did.

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So what would happen is if he were to pick up a stray dog,

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he would take that dog to SPCA or department.

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Now, there were two questions.

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Uh, there was a couple of people had, uh,

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emotional questions

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because they felt the SPCA is a youth facility

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that this, uh, doesn't, uh, come under that umbrella.

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What they do is they bring the animal in.

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They, they buddy would take them, the animal

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and they would hold it for a period of time,

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which would've specified.

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And then if the owner doesn't pick up the animal,

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it is put up for adoption.

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Um, there is no penalty.

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He said that if they, if he works with the STCA

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or arc, there's no penalty.

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So we don't have to that part

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and the euthanization parts off the table too.

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Both, um, he was, he was very,

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uh, interested in doing this.

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Um, mark had brought several questions,

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good questions about the insurance, the LLC corporation,

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the fee schedule, and it all seems to flow in crisis system.

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How do we want to do this? Do we want to hire him

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as an independent or contract?

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This company?

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Sounds to me like we want to contract the company.

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That would be my preference.

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And it sounds to me like we want to have some sort

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of a animal control services as opposed

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to enforcement or officer,

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If that's the way it's written. Now,

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that one other, one other issue that we talked about,

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uh, we,

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and it was mentioned in the, uh, I talked about

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the getting in touch with him.

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If we don't want borough residents calling him

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to have him come out, which we don't, um, how

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will Evie notified if people call the borough office

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after two o'clock?

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They're just gonna leave a message.

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So then what happens to an animal evening?

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He said that any, if we have

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to set up some mechanism in year, uh, then he has a,

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he has a number, uh, an office number, that 4 1 6 number

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that is answered 24 hours a day so we can get to them.

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The question we have to figure out is how,

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how do reportings get to us in the off hours of the earth?

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Do we choose the lease number, emergency number?

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And I'm not quite sure, correct me, bill,

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you would know more than I, uh,

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they call the police emergency number, non-emergency number

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that goes to the radio.

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It does. And I was just gonna say,

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I think you need a little, a

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little more thought has to be given.

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Yeah. Because yeah, I had discussed this with Rich, uh,

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with Chief Care, and he commented the same thing

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because when, when we had that bill out from Warminster,

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most of those calls came in either to the police department

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that were, that was on that large bill,

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or they called 9 1 1.

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People were calling 9 1 1, which also would go directly then

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to Warminster police if we didn't have a police officer.

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Well, that issue, you're not gonna have it if, if it goes

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to Warminster police, it's not gonna go directly to

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They would send it to their,

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that that's what they do with them. Right. But

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Now with, if you're changing,

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if it's no longer a warminster on forward

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Control Yeah, you, you're Right.

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Right. It would go to the contracted

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person is what it should be.

257
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I guess we should set that up with, I mean,

258
00:31:23,495 --> 00:31:24,935
if there's costs, they do. Well,

259
00:31:24,935 --> 00:31:25,935
No, that, well, that as simple,

260
00:31:26,075 --> 00:31:27,615
The nine 11 should send it right

261
00:31:27,635 --> 00:31:29,535
to the animal control people.

262
00:31:29,885 --> 00:31:32,335
They shouldn't send it to Eser at all. Right?

263
00:31:32,565 --> 00:31:33,655
Yeah, You Right.

264
00:31:33,675 --> 00:31:36,375
And I think the dispatch system knows how to handle that.

265
00:31:36,465 --> 00:31:39,015
Right. I think we just have to make it clear to them that,

266
00:31:39,015 --> 00:31:41,055
yeah, we have our own guy now this is where

267
00:31:41,895 --> 00:31:43,255
anything needs to be directed.

268
00:31:44,035 --> 00:31:48,055
So I think, can you guys follow up with Chief Carey

269
00:31:48,055 --> 00:31:50,095
and see what takes to get that done?

270
00:31:50,595 --> 00:31:52,015
So I think we need to have that in place

271
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before we invoke this.

272
00:31:53,655 --> 00:31:55,495
I know that we were talking also about a letter

273
00:31:55,495 --> 00:31:57,775
of cancellation for women service.

274
00:31:58,155 --> 00:31:59,735
Its services. But I think we need to get all

275
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of our ducks in the row before

276
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We, before we cancel Absolutely. Before we cancel

277
00:32:02,815 --> 00:32:03,815
It. Yes. I I

278
00:32:03,815 --> 00:32:05,415
have not, I mean, I have a letter done up,

279
00:32:05,415 --> 00:32:07,255
but I have not done it.

280
00:32:07,345 --> 00:32:10,295
Right. Getting the date changed a couple times here,

281
00:32:11,645 --> 00:32:13,985
you know, until we get the, get it all ironed out.

282
00:32:14,605 --> 00:32:16,025
So you still haven't it addressed

283
00:32:16,845 --> 00:32:19,625
if no one's in the office. How does that work?

284
00:32:20,335 --> 00:32:23,065
Yeah, that's the, that, that was the central question.

285
00:32:24,195 --> 00:32:25,615
If there's no one in the office

286
00:32:25,675 --> 00:32:29,455
and the resident wants to call, he knows buddy.

287
00:32:29,755 --> 00:32:33,415
We discussed this, that residents aren't, it's supposed

288
00:32:33,415 --> 00:32:34,935
to come from the borough.

289
00:32:35,995 --> 00:32:39,845
So we need a mechanism to get the borough,

290
00:32:40,105 --> 00:32:41,965
the information to get to him.

291
00:32:43,095 --> 00:32:45,475
Uh, he said, you know, they have that number in the office,

292
00:32:45,655 --> 00:32:48,195
but that's not a number I think you want to publicize

293
00:32:48,215 --> 00:32:49,275
to the entire borough.

294
00:32:49,575 --> 00:32:52,395
No, because they'll be calling every other day for a dog.

295
00:32:53,075 --> 00:32:56,385
I bill. Does it make sense?

296
00:32:57,065 --> 00:32:59,265
I mean, this, the closest thing this gets to is public,

297
00:32:59,285 --> 00:33:01,505
public safety as far as I'm, I agree.

298
00:33:01,965 --> 00:33:04,905
So does it make sense to kind of take this offline

299
00:33:05,205 --> 00:33:09,425
and work through the, all the different, you know, angles

300
00:33:09,425 --> 00:33:10,745
that this can take and then come back

301
00:33:10,845 --> 00:33:12,585
and say, this is what we think we should

302
00:33:12,605 --> 00:33:14,065
do. You know what I mean? Right. If

303
00:33:14,065 --> 00:33:15,625
There's a cop on duty, if

304
00:33:15,625 --> 00:33:16,625
There's not a cop on duty,

305
00:33:16,625 --> 00:33:17,745
because we have to check

306
00:33:17,745 --> 00:33:19,225
with the 9 1 1 center and make, you know.

307
00:33:19,225 --> 00:33:20,345
Right. And make sure they're

308
00:33:20,345 --> 00:33:21,345
Okay. And we gotta check with

309
00:33:21,345 --> 00:33:22,225
the 9 1 1 center.

310
00:33:22,525 --> 00:33:25,305
Um, I wanna check with the, the phone people.

311
00:33:26,105 --> 00:33:27,265
'cause is it possible that

312
00:33:27,265 --> 00:33:30,745
after hours, if we can we designate a number

313
00:33:30,805 --> 00:33:33,185
to call versus not just the borough,

314
00:33:33,605 --> 00:33:37,145
but a, a specific number for animal control and then

315
00:33:37,675 --> 00:33:40,585
after hours if that would get forwarded to a phone.

316
00:33:41,365 --> 00:33:43,905
But the question is, they could forward it to my phone if

317
00:33:43,905 --> 00:33:45,705
after hours I would answer that call.

318
00:33:46,215 --> 00:33:48,785
Okay. Well, I mean that's, I mean, it's just things

319
00:33:48,785 --> 00:33:50,185
To, that'll be the answer That,

320
00:33:50,605 --> 00:33:52,865
But it's just things that we need to, to figure out.

321
00:33:53,105 --> 00:33:55,105
'cause that's, I mean, we definitely need to have

322
00:33:55,885 --> 00:33:57,575
accessibility after hours.

323
00:33:57,745 --> 00:34:00,335
Right? So we, we need to iron that out

324
00:34:00,355 --> 00:34:02,015
and we can make things. I'm just

325
00:34:02,015 --> 00:34:04,015
Thinking we're not gonna solve it tonight. No,

326
00:34:04,255 --> 00:34:05,255
I don't think so either.

327
00:34:05,265 --> 00:34:07,855
Think we have a couple avenues we have to iron out

328
00:34:09,025 --> 00:34:13,485
and, you know, I can, we can reach out

329
00:34:13,485 --> 00:34:17,365
to Gerald too and see, you know, what nine 11 really does

330
00:34:17,365 --> 00:34:21,305
Well, what the, the chief care, um,

331
00:34:22,365 --> 00:34:25,345
get the ins and outs of the non-emergency number,

332
00:34:25,835 --> 00:34:26,905
maybe find out,

333
00:34:27,005 --> 00:34:29,865
and then maybe we can find a way around that, as Bill said,

334
00:34:29,865 --> 00:34:32,305
to get information to us. But

335
00:34:32,545 --> 00:34:37,245
I, I think the 9 1 1 center can, can kind

336
00:34:37,245 --> 00:34:39,445
of have a quote phone tree, you know?

337
00:34:39,445 --> 00:34:41,205
Right, right. If this doesn't work,

338
00:34:41,205 --> 00:34:42,405
do this, do this, do this, do this.

339
00:34:42,805 --> 00:34:44,085
Absolutely. You know, and, and I just think

340
00:34:44,085 --> 00:34:45,205
we need to work that out

341
00:34:45,865 --> 00:34:46,865
Beforehand. Absolutely.

342
00:34:46,865 --> 00:34:48,655
But, but sit down and think about it.

343
00:34:48,655 --> 00:34:50,135
I don't think we're gonna solve it here as well.

344
00:34:50,555 --> 00:34:51,975
No, I, I agree.

345
00:34:53,535 --> 00:34:54,915
But I think we can get balls wrong

346
00:34:54,915 --> 00:34:56,235
and I think we should start working

347
00:34:56,375 --> 00:34:58,595
and getting a signed agreement in place.

348
00:34:59,645 --> 00:35:02,295
Well, I think we should at least final that draft

349
00:35:02,315 --> 00:35:03,655
and then make sure we got all,

350
00:35:03,655 --> 00:35:06,295
because right now, the, the draft agreement does

351
00:35:06,975 --> 00:35:09,925
specifically talk about the fact that

352
00:35:11,335 --> 00:35:13,375
should not be reaching out directly to the, um,

353
00:35:13,435 --> 00:35:14,935
patrol services.

354
00:35:15,715 --> 00:35:20,225
Okay. Um, 21 Chase Avenue

355
00:35:22,055 --> 00:35:24,235
we talked about before Sketch plan came in,

356
00:35:24,235 --> 00:35:26,435
there'll be a meeting at the end of the month

357
00:35:26,435 --> 00:35:28,475
with the planning commission and through the review

358
00:35:28,475 --> 00:35:32,355
and discussing contact with the applicant, sketch plan,

359
00:35:32,375 --> 00:35:35,655
and then come to council, um, next month.

360
00:35:36,475 --> 00:35:40,845
So then we've got two actual action items for tonight.

361
00:35:42,395 --> 00:35:47,375
One is the, um, hearing on the

362
00:35:48,065 --> 00:35:50,615
stormwater management ordinance, the amendment.

363
00:35:51,075 --> 00:35:52,375
So you'll gather in

364
00:35:53,085 --> 00:35:54,085
Hearing's open.

365
00:35:54,915 --> 00:35:56,335
So this is a hearing there.

366
00:35:56,335 --> 00:35:57,415
There was a, um,

367
00:35:58,465 --> 00:36:02,705
Pennsylvania DEP periodically updates its requirements, um,

368
00:36:03,645 --> 00:36:06,865
for municipal, um, stormwater management ordinances.

369
00:36:07,135 --> 00:36:09,425
This was done a year or two ago.

370
00:36:09,715 --> 00:36:11,505
There was an amendment done at that time.

371
00:36:12,445 --> 00:36:14,505
Uh, Chris Peterson, the couch of engineer

372
00:36:14,625 --> 00:36:17,945
and reviewing the ordinance, saw that there were some things

373
00:36:18,015 --> 00:36:21,385
that, um, had been part of the ordinance

374
00:36:21,385 --> 00:36:23,105
before that dropped out that he wanted

375
00:36:23,105 --> 00:36:24,185
to make sure it got back in.

376
00:36:24,645 --> 00:36:27,745
So we're essentially doing that this amendment

377
00:36:27,885 --> 00:36:31,465
to make sure we have both the newest changes from DP as well

378
00:36:31,465 --> 00:36:35,265
as our historical important, you know, borough specific

379
00:36:35,265 --> 00:36:36,665
Legacy Requirements.

380
00:36:36,805 --> 00:36:39,905
So, uh, I just have a couple exhibits I wanna run through,

381
00:36:39,965 --> 00:36:42,945
and then we can talk more about it.

382
00:36:43,245 --> 00:36:45,425
So, uh, exhibit one,

383
00:36:45,705 --> 00:36:49,625
borough Exhibit one is the proposed ordinance, uh,

384
00:36:49,625 --> 00:36:51,705
which was, I believe, circulated to counsel.

385
00:36:51,765 --> 00:36:54,825
Yep. Um, borough Exhibit two was public notice.

386
00:36:56,025 --> 00:36:59,105
Borough Exhibit three is the proof of advertising, uh,

387
00:36:59,205 --> 00:37:01,225
of the public notice, which took place on

388
00:37:01,425 --> 00:37:03,185
December 27th, 2024.

389
00:37:04,005 --> 00:37:07,145
And Borough Exhibit four is a copy of the certificate of

390
00:37:07,745 --> 00:37:10,425
certification of posting that Janet posted on

391
00:37:10,425 --> 00:37:12,185
January 2nd, 2025.

392
00:37:12,955 --> 00:37:16,415
Um, so as I said, this is essentially, um,

393
00:37:17,975 --> 00:37:22,475
it's, it's updating what was the,

394
00:37:22,535 --> 00:37:24,515
the prior stormwater management ordinance

395
00:37:24,515 --> 00:37:26,875
with the most recent amendments from DEP

396
00:37:27,135 --> 00:37:29,595
and sort of putting the two together

397
00:37:29,695 --> 00:37:31,155
so you have a complete set.

398
00:37:31,575 --> 00:37:33,475
So that's what's before council at this point.

399
00:37:37,265 --> 00:37:42,195
All righty. Any comment involve?

400
00:37:42,455 --> 00:37:46,155
No one's got post the notes all over it and ready to go.

401
00:37:47,455 --> 00:37:50,155
All right. Do I have a motion to approve the ordinance

402
00:37:51,265 --> 00:37:53,445
motion or a motion? Do I have a second?

403
00:37:54,235 --> 00:37:57,765
I'll Second. Motion. Second. All in favor a Aye, aye.

404
00:37:59,665 --> 00:38:00,805
So we can close that hearing

405
00:38:00,945 --> 00:38:03,885
and now we can move on to, um,

406
00:38:04,975 --> 00:38:06,585
Verizon cable franchise.

407
00:38:07,685 --> 00:38:11,585
Um, so the borough did receive a letter a few months ago

408
00:38:12,455 --> 00:38:15,385
from Verizon saying, Hey, hey, we're going

409
00:38:15,385 --> 00:38:16,545
through our renewal process.

410
00:38:17,445 --> 00:38:18,865
Uh, after receiving that letter,

411
00:38:19,165 --> 00:38:20,665
we went back into the records.

412
00:38:20,995 --> 00:38:25,505
Looks like there was an initial agreement, um, with Verizon,

413
00:38:26,245 --> 00:38:29,385
uh, that expired in 2019.

414
00:38:30,565 --> 00:38:34,465
Um, it's not clear if, if it was then, um,

415
00:38:35,095 --> 00:38:36,385
renewed in 2019.

416
00:38:36,925 --> 00:38:40,305
But in any event, the renewal cycle is coming up again.

417
00:38:40,845 --> 00:38:45,105
Um, the Bucks County consortium has engaged services of,

418
00:38:45,925 --> 00:38:50,085
um, I think it's Dan Cohen, Cohen Law Group, um,

419
00:38:51,145 --> 00:38:52,965
out to Pittsburgh, who I worked

420
00:38:52,965 --> 00:38:54,765
with in other municipalities supported Doug.

421
00:38:54,805 --> 00:38:56,045
It does. Um,

422
00:38:56,595 --> 00:39:00,805
because there are, um, so we,

423
00:39:01,635 --> 00:39:03,325
even though we're a little bit late to the game,

424
00:39:03,635 --> 00:39:05,645
they said we can join, um,

425
00:39:06,275 --> 00:39:10,765
because there's, um, there's anywhere,

426
00:39:10,795 --> 00:39:12,165
there's between 12

427
00:39:12,425 --> 00:39:14,965
and 16 municipalities, um,

428
00:39:14,995 --> 00:39:18,005
presently participating in the Bucks County Consortium,

429
00:39:18,655 --> 00:39:22,085
which means that everyone's getting a 15% discount on the

430
00:39:22,085 --> 00:39:25,005
normal rate because we're on the smaller end.

431
00:39:25,555 --> 00:39:27,365
He's proposing a flat fee, this part

432
00:39:27,365 --> 00:39:31,485
of the agreement than he has with the other 1115 folks

433
00:39:32,075 --> 00:39:35,645
flat fee of $6,800, negotiate the agreement.

434
00:39:36,345 --> 00:39:39,355
Um, you know, he's the guy

435
00:39:39,355 --> 00:39:40,795
that knows what he's doing with these things.

436
00:39:40,955 --> 00:39:43,835
I would recommend that, you know.

437
00:39:45,875 --> 00:39:47,165
Alright. Um,

438
00:39:47,585 --> 00:39:49,405
It says the beginning, middle, and end of the project.

439
00:39:49,545 --> 00:39:53,125
So these payments will be, what, over the next

440
00:39:53,675 --> 00:39:54,845
four months? Six months?

441
00:39:55,155 --> 00:39:57,445
It's, it's, I think there's one payment at the beginning.

442
00:39:58,105 --> 00:39:59,245
He actually laid that out.

443
00:39:59,625 --> 00:40:01,565
Yes, there was one in the beginning.

444
00:40:02,125 --> 00:40:04,845
I think one midway and then one services are completed.

445
00:40:04,985 --> 00:40:06,285
So it's working with three pieces.

446
00:40:10,135 --> 00:40:12,335
I have a question. Is there, is there much

447
00:40:13,995 --> 00:40:15,375
we just re-up in,

448
00:40:17,055 --> 00:40:19,735
I think negotiation sense that Verizon's always trying

449
00:40:19,735 --> 00:40:22,865
to push back on the length of the period,

450
00:40:23,215 --> 00:40:25,825
what the percentage, you know, of the franchise is.

451
00:40:25,965 --> 00:40:29,945
So I don't know that us jumping in is gonna create any more

452
00:40:29,945 --> 00:40:34,885
work from, but, um, I do think that he is doing some work

453
00:40:34,945 --> 00:40:38,885
for the group as essentially a liaison.

454
00:40:41,865 --> 00:40:44,665
I guess my point is, what's our,

455
00:40:45,005 --> 00:40:47,025
if we hire him,

456
00:40:47,285 --> 00:40:48,665
You could do it.

457
00:40:48,765 --> 00:40:50,745
And maybe I could do it for less than

458
00:40:52,905 --> 00:40:54,215
6,800.

459
00:40:54,225 --> 00:40:55,415
Maybe I could.

460
00:40:55,535 --> 00:40:58,175
I I'll tell you, it is the last time this came up,

461
00:40:58,275 --> 00:41:01,975
and I might have been a Comcast franchise meeting, um,

462
00:41:02,845 --> 00:41:05,765
in the other municipality, they ended up going

463
00:41:05,765 --> 00:41:08,045
with the consortium, which was a different county,

464
00:41:08,045 --> 00:41:09,445
but it was that county's consortium

465
00:41:09,665 --> 00:41:12,965
and also the group that that do,

466
00:41:15,575 --> 00:41:18,555
Hey Mark, what is it like I franchise agreement?

467
00:41:18,795 --> 00:41:20,155
I mean, I know what a franchise agreement is,

468
00:41:20,155 --> 00:41:21,955
but I think Kentucky Fried Chicken, you

469
00:41:21,955 --> 00:41:23,115
Know, Well,

470
00:41:23,115 --> 00:41:25,555
it's essentially saying Biden's gonna come in,

471
00:41:25,555 --> 00:41:26,875
they're gonna come into your municipality

472
00:41:26,875 --> 00:41:30,875
and you're gonna get a certain percentage, you know, uh,

473
00:41:30,905 --> 00:41:32,635
that this is the agreement, this is

474
00:41:32,635 --> 00:41:34,125
what services they're gonna provide,

475
00:41:34,865 --> 00:41:38,605
and you're gonna get, you know, whatever fees that you would

476
00:41:39,285 --> 00:41:42,125
normally get or whatever you negotiate with part percentage.

477
00:41:42,625 --> 00:41:45,085
And it, I mean, I know just, you know,

478
00:41:45,545 --> 00:41:47,205
you have Verizon, you have Comcast.

479
00:41:47,805 --> 00:41:49,045
I think those are the two. Right?

480
00:41:49,545 --> 00:41:53,245
So is is there exclusivity if we were to go with Verizon?

481
00:41:53,665 --> 00:41:55,365
No, I don't think so. No, you already, I mean,

482
00:41:55,365 --> 00:41:56,925
Verizon's already here and,

483
00:41:57,025 --> 00:41:59,085
and you already had it written Verizon.

484
00:41:59,825 --> 00:42:01,285
Why it, uh, you know, whether

485
00:42:01,285 --> 00:42:02,645
or not it got need, I don't know,

486
00:42:02,665 --> 00:42:05,325
but I believe I, I'm, it hasn't come up

487
00:42:05,625 --> 00:42:06,845
and I don't know if you've looked in,

488
00:42:06,845 --> 00:42:08,405
but I'm willing to bet you also have an

489
00:42:08,405 --> 00:42:09,605
agreement Comcast card.

490
00:42:10,105 --> 00:42:13,245
So it's some Compensation

491
00:42:13,595 --> 00:42:16,885
Back to the borough for homeowners

492
00:42:16,885 --> 00:42:19,685
that utilize Verizon services.

493
00:42:19,945 --> 00:42:20,945
Is that what it is?

494
00:42:26,435 --> 00:42:27,695
And there's all, I mean, there's a lot

495
00:42:27,695 --> 00:42:31,535
of intricacies when it comes to the, you know,

496
00:42:31,595 --> 00:42:34,255
the cable laws and you know, what they're allowed to give

497
00:42:34,255 --> 00:42:35,575
and how long contracts can be

498
00:42:35,595 --> 00:42:40,515
and what percents they're allowed to highly regulated.

499
00:42:45,625 --> 00:42:47,105
I guess this is a question we're generating.

500
00:42:47,765 --> 00:42:51,735
We get 6,800 hours in,

501
00:42:51,955 --> 00:42:54,885
in revenue from them, period.

502
00:42:54,905 --> 00:42:55,905
Of the contract.

503
00:43:02,605 --> 00:43:06,645
That's right. Uh,

504
00:43:18,515 --> 00:43:20,645
last year, your, this is,

505
00:43:20,915 --> 00:43:24,065
this is Verizon and Comcast.

506
00:43:24,525 --> 00:43:28,625
You received $17,560 and 53 cents.

507
00:43:29,915 --> 00:43:31,105
Can't afford not to do it.

508
00:43:38,185 --> 00:43:41,165
And how long, how long would this, uh, agreement would

509
00:43:41,165 --> 00:43:42,165
Be? I think that's what

510
00:43:42,165 --> 00:43:44,445
you're negotiating The last one.

511
00:43:44,755 --> 00:43:48,725
That the original was very long. I think it was 2012. 19.

512
00:43:49,395 --> 00:43:52,765
This one at least this last cycle was five year.

513
00:43:52,845 --> 00:43:54,005
I think they've used it five years.

514
00:43:54,195 --> 00:43:55,765
This last one was five years.

515
00:43:56,465 --> 00:43:57,965
The last cycle at least was five years.

516
00:44:02,505 --> 00:44:05,525
Any other questions? No.

517
00:44:06,145 --> 00:44:10,735
You know, in light of all that now I, a picture just,

518
00:44:12,075 --> 00:44:14,175
we just got it.

519
00:44:16,195 --> 00:44:19,415
So, uh, we have a, do I have a motion to approve

520
00:44:19,985 --> 00:44:21,055
going with Cohen Law?

521
00:44:22,485 --> 00:44:26,015
I'll motion second. Motion and second. All in favor? Aye.

522
00:44:26,155 --> 00:44:28,535
Aye. Proceed Mark.

523
00:44:29,315 --> 00:44:32,005
Um, I'm done. Alright, thank you.

524
00:44:32,435 --> 00:44:35,725
Loop back around to, I have one question on,

525
00:44:35,825 --> 00:44:37,045
on 21 Chase.

526
00:44:38,345 --> 00:44:41,485
The, the planning commission is not going

527
00:44:41,485 --> 00:44:45,525
to give any formal, it's just a recommendation

528
00:44:45,865 --> 00:44:46,885
or not even a recommendation.

529
00:44:48,195 --> 00:44:49,245
Okay. All right.

530
00:44:49,895 --> 00:44:52,165
Gonna Provide feedback to the applicant.

531
00:44:52,825 --> 00:44:55,285
Um, that feedback, you know, will be in the Minutes.

532
00:44:55,435 --> 00:44:56,605
Council can get it.

533
00:44:56,785 --> 00:45:00,685
Um, counsel then has an opportunity if they want to

534
00:45:01,195 --> 00:45:02,205
have the person come

535
00:45:02,265 --> 00:45:03,565
and give you feedback too,

536
00:45:03,875 --> 00:45:06,005
with guidance from the planning commission

537
00:45:06,065 --> 00:45:08,605
and following up on their feedback as well. There

538
00:45:08,605 --> 00:45:10,285
Was good feedback from the county on

539
00:45:10,285 --> 00:45:11,285
It. Right. And the county did

540
00:45:11,285 --> 00:45:12,765
do a letter. I

541
00:45:12,765 --> 00:45:13,765
Did.

542
00:45:14,905 --> 00:45:17,245
And then, and the planning commission is meeting.

543
00:45:17,565 --> 00:45:20,885
Everyone's been notified and given the application on the

544
00:45:20,885 --> 00:45:23,245
23rd of this month is the advertise meeting.

545
00:45:24,335 --> 00:45:27,005
Right. All planning commission is gonna do is come back

546
00:45:27,005 --> 00:45:29,285
with a recommendation to the, to the school.

547
00:45:30,605 --> 00:45:33,615
Well, you're based gonna be coming back more.

548
00:45:33,845 --> 00:45:35,975
It's gonna be more in the nature of feedback to the app

549
00:45:36,005 --> 00:45:37,135
because you don't actually,

550
00:45:37,285 --> 00:45:38,775
there's no action. Yeah. Should they,

551
00:45:39,235 --> 00:45:40,495
Should they choose to show up?

552
00:45:40,495 --> 00:45:41,455
There might be some real time

553
00:45:41,455 --> 00:45:43,175
conversation when I doubt they'll show up.

554
00:45:43,955 --> 00:45:46,895
No, they're not going sh

555
00:45:47,465 --> 00:45:48,645
You don't think they'll show up

556
00:45:49,185 --> 00:45:50,765
to the January 23rd meeting?

557
00:45:52,275 --> 00:45:54,255
Pretty rare that any of the applicants ever

558
00:45:54,355 --> 00:45:55,355
On a sketch plan. I,

559
00:45:55,355 --> 00:45:56,375
well, I would hope they would.

560
00:45:56,645 --> 00:45:59,055
Okay. It hasn't happened yet. Okay.

561
00:46:00,285 --> 00:46:01,855
Well that, that, that would purpose

562
00:46:01,995 --> 00:46:03,535
For them to get feedback That

563
00:46:03,535 --> 00:46:05,615
that would leave a bad taste in the

564
00:46:05,775 --> 00:46:07,135
Farrow's mouth, wouldn't it?

565
00:46:07,155 --> 00:46:08,895
If they didn't show up,

566
00:46:11,475 --> 00:46:13,235
I think either, either Chris

567
00:46:14,095 --> 00:46:17,435
or I should reach out to their engineer.

568
00:46:19,095 --> 00:46:21,475
That'd be great. Something that we would like to see.

569
00:46:21,705 --> 00:46:22,705
They at least

570
00:46:26,735 --> 00:46:27,735
That'd be great. Usually.

571
00:46:27,735 --> 00:46:30,075
I would agree.

572
00:46:34,335 --> 00:46:39,185
That'd be great. Yes. All right. Anything else?

573
00:46:40,975 --> 00:46:45,245
Thank you, Martha. Thank you Madam Treasurer

574
00:46:47,435 --> 00:46:48,635
Treasury Management account.

575
00:46:48,705 --> 00:46:51,275
This is for the end of the, of 2024.

576
00:46:52,205 --> 00:46:56,295
Court has signed Federal fund balance on hand.

577
00:46:57,015 --> 00:47:00,895
December 31st, 2020 4, 390

578
00:47:00,895 --> 00:47:04,535
$7,134 and 81 cents.

579
00:47:04,965 --> 00:47:07,175
Capital Reserve Fund balance on hand.

580
00:47:07,415 --> 00:47:12,135
December 31st is $549,822

581
00:47:12,355 --> 00:47:13,655
and 43 cents.

582
00:47:14,355 --> 00:47:16,575
Liquid fuel tax Fund balance on hand.

583
00:47:16,815 --> 00:47:19,335
December 31st, 2024 is

584
00:47:19,335 --> 00:47:23,415
$69,718 and 61 cents.

585
00:47:24,045 --> 00:47:26,215
Fire Company account balance on hand.

586
00:47:27,175 --> 00:47:29,165
December 31st is, is

587
00:47:29,675 --> 00:47:32,485
$73,647

588
00:47:32,625 --> 00:47:35,365
and 91 cents for a total in funds

589
00:47:35,465 --> 00:47:39,325
of $1,090,323

590
00:47:39,545 --> 00:47:40,845
and 76 cents.

591
00:47:42,075 --> 00:47:46,845
Okay. 2376. Seven six. Yes. Accepted subject to audit.

592
00:47:47,205 --> 00:47:49,875
I have a question and Chuck has a question.

593
00:47:50,345 --> 00:47:53,295
Janet, and I was speaking of this earlier in, uh, earlier

594
00:47:54,285 --> 00:47:57,885
I guess late last year, the salary waiver

595
00:47:58,155 --> 00:48:00,085
fund Okay.

596
00:48:00,705 --> 00:48:05,125
Is lumped in, in our bottom line here.

597
00:48:06,185 --> 00:48:07,925
And I'm not sure that,

598
00:48:08,425 --> 00:48:13,215
because that's really, uh, I wanna say not public money.

599
00:48:13,275 --> 00:48:14,935
Is that the right way to say that? Right.

600
00:48:15,085 --> 00:48:16,495
It's, it's, we've used it

601
00:48:16,495 --> 00:48:19,215
before for things that we were perhaps unwilling

602
00:48:19,215 --> 00:48:20,535
to spend public money on.

603
00:48:20,945 --> 00:48:24,575
Right. Think of the restoration of the books at, at the, um,

604
00:48:25,315 --> 00:48:27,415
at the registrar of Wills.

605
00:48:28,155 --> 00:48:32,305
So I, my gut is telling me that

606
00:48:32,305 --> 00:48:34,105
that should probably be in a separate account

607
00:48:34,325 --> 00:48:35,505
and it should probably not.

608
00:48:35,565 --> 00:48:36,945
It may be reported here,

609
00:48:37,005 --> 00:48:40,065
but it should not be included in our borough coffers,

610
00:48:40,245 --> 00:48:41,505
if you would think of it that way.

611
00:48:42,485 --> 00:48:45,445
Put it out for discussion. Um,

612
00:48:48,155 --> 00:48:49,155
I can see that.

613
00:48:50,125 --> 00:48:53,245
'cause it is, it's kind of gifted back to the borough by,

614
00:48:53,545 --> 00:48:54,765
by council members.

615
00:48:54,765 --> 00:48:58,955
Right. And, and yes, I don't, I don't want to,

616
00:48:59,355 --> 00:49:01,635
I don't want to think of it as a petty cash account

617
00:49:01,635 --> 00:49:03,155
or I, I don't quite know how to describe it,

618
00:49:03,155 --> 00:49:06,905
but it's, it's things that, my opinion,

619
00:49:07,325 --> 00:49:11,025
we would be hesitant to spend taxpayer dollars on, you know,

620
00:49:11,455 --> 00:49:15,065
some luxury like the books for the registrar wills.

621
00:49:15,525 --> 00:49:20,035
Um, so I, I just, it's a question of how we present it

622
00:49:20,695 --> 00:49:24,105
in, in, in this document and Well, I know,

623
00:49:24,585 --> 00:49:27,645
I know when it was originally formatted that it,

624
00:49:27,825 --> 00:49:30,805
we thought about it for like arc equipment that, that,

625
00:49:30,905 --> 00:49:32,965
you know, we didn't have funds for too.

626
00:49:33,145 --> 00:49:35,165
Things that, you know, it was kind of like a way

627
00:49:35,165 --> 00:49:39,705
that we could, could give back to the, to the community, um,

628
00:49:40,375 --> 00:49:42,245
without, without having

629
00:49:42,245 --> 00:49:44,365
to go into the community money. Yeah.

630
00:49:44,695 --> 00:49:46,245
Right. Concur,

631
00:49:46,865 --> 00:49:49,245
That's, I mean, that's how it came to start. It

632
00:49:49,245 --> 00:49:50,245
Is, yeah. And it, and it

633
00:49:50,245 --> 00:49:52,805
was, I mean, we used it for, such as

634
00:49:53,555 --> 00:49:56,585
when it came up with the, uh, the depots.

635
00:49:57,385 --> 00:50:00,905
Yep. We also, we also brought, brought a, a grinder pump

636
00:50:00,965 --> 00:50:05,405
for the fire company through it at one point, very early on,

637
00:50:06,565 --> 00:50:08,555
early on this, this

638
00:50:08,945 --> 00:50:10,795
Something that the fire company needs.

639
00:50:11,165 --> 00:50:12,915
Right. And there and there's, it's

640
00:50:12,915 --> 00:50:14,875
Not budget that comes up Sure.

641
00:50:15,025 --> 00:50:17,835
Such as how the, how the depot issue came up.

642
00:50:18,455 --> 00:50:20,315
So I, I just put it out there to discuss

643
00:50:20,475 --> 00:50:22,795
'cause it struck me as being like there, it's this other,

644
00:50:23,005 --> 00:50:26,715
other entity besides publicly. But,

645
00:50:27,345 --> 00:50:30,045
But we, but if you, if you, if we

646
00:50:32,105 --> 00:50:36,565
All, all these items listed are not separate accounts.

647
00:50:37,615 --> 00:50:40,145
Correct. Okay. They're right.

648
00:50:40,405 --> 00:50:43,625
So why wouldn't we just keep track of it the way we do?

649
00:50:43,965 --> 00:50:45,705
Why would we set up another account?

650
00:50:46,245 --> 00:50:48,625
We don't have, we don't have separate accounts

651
00:50:48,645 --> 00:50:50,305
for all these other topics.

652
00:50:50,925 --> 00:50:52,705
And I agree with that point. And the other thing

653
00:50:52,705 --> 00:50:56,105
that I was gonna say was, it's the, the salary, the intent

654
00:50:56,325 --> 00:50:58,905
as Bill kind of stated was that it's

655
00:50:59,505 --> 00:51:01,475
council waiving salary in lieu

656
00:51:01,475 --> 00:51:02,915
of giving it back to the community.

657
00:51:03,175 --> 00:51:05,195
So it is community money though, isn't it?

658
00:51:08,215 --> 00:51:10,195
And I think because I'm, I'm okay.

659
00:51:10,225 --> 00:51:11,995
It's to discuss it was just, it just seemed,

660
00:51:12,175 --> 00:51:14,195
And I also think because of how it's set up,

661
00:51:14,585 --> 00:51:19,415
it's really council's view of how to spend it too. It not.

662
00:51:19,525 --> 00:51:22,055
Well, and I think, Chuck, I think your concern,

663
00:51:22,145 --> 00:51:25,255
which I don't know that we can get away from, for example,

664
00:51:25,575 --> 00:51:29,695
I I I'm correct me if I'm, you know, wrong

665
00:51:29,695 --> 00:51:31,055
with your feeling on this.

666
00:51:31,525 --> 00:51:34,055
Like, I think there's about 33,000 in there right now

667
00:51:34,235 --> 00:51:35,415
in the, the salary waiver.

668
00:51:35,595 --> 00:51:39,655
Yes. Okay. Give or take, let's say we were going to buy

669
00:51:40,375 --> 00:51:43,615
a playground equipment, we, we would have to follow

670
00:51:44,395 --> 00:51:47,055
the guidelines on bidding, et cetera.

671
00:51:47,315 --> 00:51:48,895
And I don't think it can get away from that.

672
00:51:50,445 --> 00:51:51,485
I, okay.

673
00:51:52,245 --> 00:51:53,525
I mean, especially if it's,

674
00:51:53,525 --> 00:51:55,885
especially if it's lump in with the other funds,

675
00:51:56,275 --> 00:51:59,245
That there's legal way for us to set it up differently

676
00:51:59,345 --> 00:52:02,365
and then to try to avoid doing those things with

677
00:52:02,365 --> 00:52:03,365
It. Well, not necessarily

678
00:52:03,365 --> 00:52:04,965
avoid doing them.

679
00:52:05,245 --> 00:52:06,845
I mean, getting three bids

680
00:52:06,845 --> 00:52:10,325
for large capital expenditures is a, is a good idea,

681
00:52:10,455 --> 00:52:11,805
right. I, I don't Well, but

682
00:52:12,035 --> 00:52:14,125
It's more than that to, to buy a piece

683
00:52:14,125 --> 00:52:17,765
of playground equipment or, or that's going to be that much

684
00:52:17,765 --> 00:52:18,885
or more that's in there.

685
00:52:19,145 --> 00:52:20,605
You're gonna have to go out the bid.

686
00:52:21,025 --> 00:52:22,725
And I think, I think we would still

687
00:52:22,725 --> 00:52:23,845
have to follow those. God,

688
00:52:24,345 --> 00:52:28,755
So what my Right, my my thought about it was

689
00:52:29,855 --> 00:52:32,225
tour it a separate account,

690
00:52:34,085 --> 00:52:37,855
then the borough would gift the playground equipment like

691
00:52:38,715 --> 00:52:41,335
the lion, you know, the, the lions

692
00:52:41,905 --> 00:52:43,575
would gift playground equipment.

693
00:52:43,635 --> 00:52:47,495
It is, it's funds that this, this body has

694
00:52:48,165 --> 00:52:49,655
Well, we, because it's

695
00:52:50,415 --> 00:52:52,055
I would say council donation,

696
00:52:52,415 --> 00:52:54,535
I would say council gifts it then not the borough.

697
00:52:54,535 --> 00:52:55,535
Right. That's what I mean.

698
00:52:56,795 --> 00:52:59,535
It would be a different entity as us versus the borough.

699
00:53:00,015 --> 00:53:02,055
I I mean I see his viewpoint. Yeah.

700
00:53:02,275 --> 00:53:04,735
But my question is, is there a benefit to do that

701
00:53:05,365 --> 00:53:06,365
Mean? Well, I think if it's

702
00:53:06,365 --> 00:53:08,175
in the public funding,

703
00:53:08,915 --> 00:53:10,135
we can't operate.

704
00:53:10,595 --> 00:53:12,495
But any funds that I operate owe would have

705
00:53:12,495 --> 00:53:13,735
to be in the public funding.

706
00:53:14,395 --> 00:53:16,175
You know, there's no other way for me to do that.

707
00:53:16,995 --> 00:53:19,695
And it's not like it's put away, it's not like it's money

708
00:53:19,695 --> 00:53:24,635
that anyone who opts into the salary waiver Yep.

709
00:53:25,235 --> 00:53:29,645
Opts into it saying, I'm foregoing the expense of the behest

710
00:53:29,825 --> 00:53:31,405
of the borough.

711
00:53:32,185 --> 00:53:36,725
So it's, but the borough still has the expense. Right. It's

712
00:53:36,725 --> 00:53:38,365
Still taxpayer money, right? Yeah.

713
00:53:38,905 --> 00:53:41,085
That's just money. It's

714
00:53:41,525 --> 00:53:43,725
Taxpayer money that certain borough council members.

715
00:53:43,745 --> 00:53:47,365
And that feels, if, you know, they, they don't wanna Sure.

716
00:53:47,665 --> 00:53:48,965
Be compensated for. So I,

717
00:53:49,085 --> 00:53:51,405
I like the way we're handling it and I think we continue

718
00:53:51,425 --> 00:53:52,425
To do that. I mean, I think

719
00:53:52,425 --> 00:53:53,525
is your concern

720
00:53:53,525 --> 00:53:55,645
that we couldn't expend it on something if

721
00:53:55,645 --> 00:53:56,685
we wanted exp expand it on something?

722
00:53:56,685 --> 00:53:57,805
It's not bump into

723
00:53:58,065 --> 00:53:59,645
No specific Okay.

724
00:53:59,745 --> 00:54:04,475
In, in my to sell brain, it was funds

725
00:54:04,475 --> 00:54:06,275
that came to me that we gave back to the,

726
00:54:06,775 --> 00:54:09,155
not necessarily the borough avoid paying in the first place.

727
00:54:09,205 --> 00:54:11,155
Maybe that's the, maybe that's the difference.

728
00:54:11,475 --> 00:54:13,875
I guess the difference would be if I gave you a check

729
00:54:13,875 --> 00:54:16,515
and then you gave the money back in some way.

730
00:54:16,815 --> 00:54:18,475
But that's not really how this

731
00:54:18,775 --> 00:54:19,775
All right. Yeah. In my head that's sort

732
00:54:19,775 --> 00:54:21,115
of how it was going. Yeah.

733
00:54:21,115 --> 00:54:22,555
That that's what I was trying you and, and

734
00:54:22,705 --> 00:54:26,435
because that gave us some leeway that if we wanted to,

735
00:54:27,575 --> 00:54:29,215
I don't know, throw a party for the borough,

736
00:54:29,635 --> 00:54:30,975
we could throw a party for the borough

737
00:54:31,605 --> 00:54:33,095
Because I, and we still can,

738
00:54:34,275 --> 00:54:35,935
I'm gonna make a controversial statement here.

739
00:54:36,015 --> 00:54:39,935
I think if that's the intent of what you think the fund is

740
00:54:39,995 --> 00:54:42,055
for and what we could do it

741
00:54:42,055 --> 00:54:44,375
with it possibly then I would say we

742
00:54:44,375 --> 00:54:45,695
should possibly forgo it.

743
00:54:46,175 --> 00:54:48,735
Everyone get their checks and donate their checks

744
00:54:48,835 --> 00:54:50,575
to the Ivy Land Heritage Association.

745
00:54:50,575 --> 00:54:53,535
Yeah. Then there's another way to do it. But, all right.

746
00:54:53,765 --> 00:54:55,975
Yeah. That's, the discussion is good enough for now.

747
00:54:56,335 --> 00:54:59,215
I, I just, I, when I saw it, I kept going, is

748
00:54:59,215 --> 00:55:00,935
that really borough money?

749
00:55:02,035 --> 00:55:04,895
So I think that was, it was set up at a point when we

750
00:55:04,895 --> 00:55:07,415
first, when SOS were, became available

751
00:55:07,595 --> 00:55:09,455
to the council members and there were many

752
00:55:09,455 --> 00:55:12,015
that did not wanna take it and wanted to give it back.

753
00:55:12,125 --> 00:55:14,495
Sure. Rather than just getting into all

754
00:55:14,495 --> 00:55:17,415
of the mass general funds, we put it into that,

755
00:55:17,685 --> 00:55:20,855
what we called a salary waiver account in hopes

756
00:55:20,855 --> 00:55:22,335
that it would be used, you know,

757
00:55:22,565 --> 00:55:25,935
council members would certainly have to agree to all

758
00:55:25,935 --> 00:55:27,535
of any expenditure out of there.

759
00:55:28,035 --> 00:55:30,615
But that they would come up if, when things pop up

760
00:55:30,615 --> 00:55:32,135
that were not budgeted items.

761
00:55:32,685 --> 00:55:36,215
Okay. For example, the de books, it allowed us to do that.

762
00:55:36,315 --> 00:55:38,695
We would not probably been able to pull,

763
00:55:38,895 --> 00:55:42,635
I think it was about $15,000 out without that fund,

764
00:55:42,775 --> 00:55:43,795
you know, what we donated.

765
00:55:44,245 --> 00:55:46,915
Right. Okay. To sponsor doing books.

766
00:55:47,615 --> 00:55:50,875
And again, should something come up that council,

767
00:55:51,095 --> 00:55:52,955
so you speak amongst each other

768
00:55:53,175 --> 00:55:56,195
and you decide we need a, a large piece or,

769
00:55:56,295 --> 00:55:58,555
or a small gazebo for a park.

770
00:55:59,555 --> 00:56:00,555
Whatever,

771
00:56:01,335 --> 00:56:04,275
$32,400 you're in, you're in gears.

772
00:56:04,295 --> 00:56:05,295
You're in.

773
00:56:06,865 --> 00:56:09,715
Okay. I'm just saying wherewithal for things

774
00:56:09,715 --> 00:56:13,755
that are unbudgeted items that come up that are in,

775
00:56:13,935 --> 00:56:15,755
in effect giving back to the community.

776
00:56:16,005 --> 00:56:18,275
Right. All good. Okay. Thank you.

777
00:56:22,365 --> 00:56:24,845
Your prepaid bills list is

778
00:56:24,845 --> 00:56:28,765
$27,167 and 94 cents.

779
00:56:29,445 --> 00:56:32,805
I did not do it on notice because they're all general.

780
00:56:33,225 --> 00:56:35,405
The ones that have just come in, it's so early in the month,

781
00:56:35,785 --> 00:56:37,965
are all available to be prepays right now.

782
00:56:42,495 --> 00:56:46,945
Oh, I'm sorry. Um, I also passed out.

783
00:56:47,365 --> 00:56:51,625
Um, everyone got their fund statement

784
00:56:51,625 --> 00:56:53,745
of financial interest that is due by May 1st.

785
00:56:54,735 --> 00:56:57,745
Just kind of what happens is when I give them out here in

786
00:56:57,745 --> 00:56:58,865
January, they just came in,

787
00:56:58,865 --> 00:57:01,265
people forget them comes May 1st.

788
00:57:01,265 --> 00:57:02,265
There's still some out.

789
00:57:03,245 --> 00:57:04,865
So everyone should have gotten

790
00:57:04,865 --> 00:57:09,245
those. The caveat

791
00:57:09,505 --> 00:57:11,965
For those who are running for reelection this year,

792
00:57:12,355 --> 00:57:14,565
your statement of financial interest is due

793
00:57:14,565 --> 00:57:15,725
when your petitions are due.

794
00:57:16,375 --> 00:57:17,555
Yes. And

795
00:57:20,185 --> 00:57:21,905
Everyone, I think I before May,

796
00:57:22,045 --> 00:57:23,225
That's before May 1st.

797
00:57:26,105 --> 00:57:28,395
Okay. Everyone got a calendar for the year

798
00:57:28,395 --> 00:57:29,715
of the advertised meetings.

799
00:57:29,795 --> 00:57:32,515
I sent them to you email and I gave everyone a hard copy.

800
00:57:40,795 --> 00:57:43,055
And I, I do apologize for not being here,

801
00:57:43,075 --> 00:57:45,175
but I would like to straighten out the confusion.

802
00:57:45,925 --> 00:57:48,855
This meeting is, I think Chris is coming, was advertised

803
00:57:48,855 --> 00:57:53,275
for seven o'clock and, and on your calendars.

804
00:57:53,545 --> 00:57:55,435
Okay. And I had that in my head.

805
00:57:55,995 --> 00:57:58,555
I think you were looking at an old reorganization meeting

806
00:57:58,585 --> 00:58:00,035
when we had swearing ins.

807
00:58:00,655 --> 00:58:02,755
We did. We would have them at six o'clock

808
00:58:02,755 --> 00:58:05,235
because Judge Ello was invited to come

809
00:58:05,235 --> 00:58:09,235
and do the swearing ins and he was going to Warminster.

810
00:58:09,255 --> 00:58:11,115
He came to us at six o'clock.

811
00:58:11,495 --> 00:58:13,915
But this meeting was advertised for 7:00 PM

812
00:58:16,065 --> 00:58:17,345
I went to the borough website

813
00:58:18,915 --> 00:58:20,855
And I gave these to Jeff to put on there.

814
00:58:25,575 --> 00:58:26,775
I like blame Jeff,

815
00:58:28,585 --> 00:58:29,655
Blame daylight.

816
00:58:29,655 --> 00:58:32,615
Lets say 2 25 scheduled meetings too.

817
00:58:32,715 --> 00:58:35,495
So, I'm sorry, I was looking at the 2025 scheduled meeting

818
00:58:35,595 --> 00:58:36,695
and it's seven o'clock on there.

819
00:58:36,855 --> 00:58:39,055
I know. I've got a copy too. That's what I said.

820
00:58:39,075 --> 00:58:40,575
And I know that's what I advertised.

821
00:58:40,575 --> 00:58:42,655
And I sent that also to Jeff for the website.

822
00:58:43,755 --> 00:58:45,455
So I was shocked when Sal called me.

823
00:58:45,495 --> 00:58:48,015
I didn't know what he wanted.

824
00:58:50,005 --> 00:58:53,415
Shocked seeing everyone here. Well, that says six

825
00:58:53,415 --> 00:58:54,415
O'clock. Well, again,

826
00:58:54,415 --> 00:58:55,975
I think we says six o'clock.

827
00:58:56,255 --> 00:58:59,895
I think we have conflicting information between our calendar

828
00:59:00,355 --> 00:59:03,135
and our notices and I didn't see on the notices,

829
00:59:03,155 --> 00:59:04,895
the actual time on the notices.

830
00:59:04,895 --> 00:59:08,455
So I saw was that, so

831
00:59:09,875 --> 00:59:10,925
apologies are all

832
00:59:10,925 --> 00:59:11,925
About No, that's okay.

833
00:59:12,225 --> 00:59:15,075
It seemed to have worked it out. Let us move on.

834
00:59:15,575 --> 00:59:16,635
Oh, I'm sorry, Mr.

835
00:59:16,635 --> 00:59:18,515
President, before we do, I think we need

836
00:59:18,515 --> 00:59:20,315
to inform our secretary treasurer

837
00:59:20,315 --> 00:59:22,245
of the change the finance chair as well.

838
00:59:23,265 --> 00:59:24,365
And go ahead. Ahead. Yes.

839
00:59:26,825 --> 00:59:28,805
So you have a, so you're no longer,

840
00:59:28,905 --> 00:59:30,325
I'm no longer the finance chair.

841
00:59:30,965 --> 00:59:32,805
Sal is the finance chair. So just,

842
00:59:33,145 --> 00:59:36,525
and to that end about speaking of calendar of events, um,

843
00:59:37,025 --> 00:59:39,285
you know, that you had had made that meeting the day

844
00:59:39,445 --> 00:59:41,205
that it is for my benefit.

845
00:59:41,865 --> 00:59:44,445
So just want to put that out there in case you wanna change

846
00:59:44,445 --> 00:59:46,765
that back to what it originally was.

847
00:59:49,155 --> 00:59:50,615
It was Monday, then we had to do two.

848
00:59:50,715 --> 00:59:53,695
It was used to be for the fi for the finance.

849
00:59:55,685 --> 00:59:58,065
That's you. Yeah. I just wanted to bring that to, yeah.

850
00:59:59,135 --> 01:00:00,835
Okay. All right. That's all.

851
01:00:02,405 --> 01:00:03,475
Thank you. You're Welcome.

852
01:00:03,975 --> 01:00:08,155
And, uh, I, one other thing that I wanted to bring up, uh,

853
01:00:08,205 --> 01:00:10,475
Chuck had been requesting we,

854
01:00:10,575 --> 01:00:13,155
and as I said, I did receive our debit card

855
01:00:14,015 --> 01:00:17,755
for putting things on on.

856
01:00:18,545 --> 01:00:20,955
However, however, and I don't think it'll affect it right

857
01:00:20,955 --> 01:00:22,515
now, but it is being corrected.

858
01:00:22,865 --> 01:00:25,435
They just came two days ago with,

859
01:00:25,855 --> 01:00:30,675
or, uh, Friday, I guess they came Friday it came with

860
01:00:31,335 --> 01:00:33,555
my name spelled wrong on, on the card.

861
01:00:34,255 --> 01:00:36,875
So I don't think that's gonna change the pin or the,

862
01:00:37,055 --> 01:00:38,995
but I did call the bank and they are correcting

863
01:00:38,995 --> 01:00:39,995
It. And I think we have

864
01:00:39,995 --> 01:00:40,875
till April

865
01:00:41,045 --> 01:00:42,595
until the next time the Zoom renewal

866
01:00:42,605 --> 01:00:43,795
Comes around. We did get that.

867
01:00:44,705 --> 01:00:47,475
Well, But, and we and Tony,

868
01:00:48,615 --> 01:00:49,615
Tony, Mr. Mayor,

869
01:00:49,615 --> 01:00:52,185
what we're gonna do when we switch over

870
01:00:52,185 --> 01:00:56,385
to Zoom account, we're gonna push it a zoom at I we're going

871
01:00:56,385 --> 01:00:58,505
to redo the email address,

872
01:00:58,645 --> 01:01:00,145
the billing, all of it all at once.

873
01:01:00,805 --> 01:01:02,345
And then we can get out of this

874
01:01:02,975 --> 01:01:05,825
craziness we have occasionally with me being on travel

875
01:01:05,885 --> 01:01:07,105
and you guys can't get in or

876
01:01:07,105 --> 01:01:08,105
Something. Yeah, that

877
01:01:08,105 --> 01:01:08,665
sounds good.

878
01:01:08,785 --> 01:01:09,905
I think the other thing our,

879
01:01:10,245 --> 01:01:12,545
our IT subcommittee needs to address it.

880
01:01:12,665 --> 01:01:15,665
'cause I know that Jeff has inquired about it was getting

881
01:01:15,885 --> 01:01:17,705
the borough off his group G

882
01:01:18,045 --> 01:01:19,045
Yes. And that account, if

883
01:01:19,045 --> 01:01:20,665
he's got that all underway. Yeah.

884
01:01:20,695 --> 01:01:23,705
Yeah. Okay. Alrighty.

885
01:01:25,865 --> 01:01:26,405
Bill's list.

886
01:01:31,595 --> 01:01:32,455
Yes. Yes. Yes.

887
01:01:33,395 --> 01:01:36,535
At least in particular, yes, because Right.

888
01:01:36,675 --> 01:01:38,815
The parking rec, the zoning hearing board. Yes. Yes.

889
01:01:38,815 --> 01:01:40,015
That has to be done. Okay.

890
01:01:45,375 --> 01:01:47,765
Bills list, Janice. I'm sorry. Bills list.

891
01:01:48,405 --> 01:01:50,465
And we pay that up. Okay. We paid,

892
01:01:53,425 --> 01:01:54,925
I'm sorry, the unpaid bills were not doing

893
01:01:54,985 --> 01:01:56,685
or there's no unpaid bills?

894
01:01:56,835 --> 01:01:58,165
There's no unpaid bills. Okay. That's

895
01:01:58,955 --> 01:02:01,485
Come in after this time are routine bills.

896
01:02:02,445 --> 01:02:04,045
I, I finished out the year with that.

897
01:02:04,375 --> 01:02:06,605
Thank you. Thank you. Any correspondence?

898
01:02:07,945 --> 01:02:09,265
I just think I did it all.

899
01:02:09,495 --> 01:02:13,685
Okay. Any public comment?

900
01:02:15,015 --> 01:02:17,795
No, not since the meeting. The staff. All right.

901
01:02:18,495 --> 01:02:23,055
Any comment from council? Moving right along

902
01:02:30,025 --> 01:02:30,605
the president?

903
01:02:30,905 --> 01:02:33,645
Um, I'm glad to say that, uh,

904
01:02:34,155 --> 01:02:36,045
village looked lovely with its luminaries.

905
01:02:36,515 --> 01:02:37,845
Nice job. Yep.

906
01:02:38,305 --> 01:02:40,245
Uh, I want to especially thank Bonnie Rowe

907
01:02:40,245 --> 01:02:43,405
and extended family for all their hard work,

908
01:02:43,405 --> 01:02:46,885
making our little borough look lovely on the holidays.

909
01:02:48,785 --> 01:02:51,165
Um, that is something nice that they've been doing

910
01:02:51,185 --> 01:02:53,005
for I don't know how many a year now.

911
01:02:53,425 --> 01:02:55,685
At least the 25 Lisa. At least

912
01:02:55,875 --> 01:02:56,875
Five Years. At least 35.

913
01:02:56,875 --> 01:02:58,165
I mean, luminaries,

914
01:02:58,965 --> 01:03:01,365
Luminaries started in the mid 1970s.

915
01:03:02,435 --> 01:03:04,245
Well, she's been doing it a good long time.

916
01:03:05,525 --> 01:03:08,225
So we do appreciate the Roe family for all that they do.

917
01:03:08,895 --> 01:03:12,185
Hopefully we can get the C Christmas card exchange back up

918
01:03:12,185 --> 01:03:13,985
to snuff one of these days.

919
01:03:14,765 --> 01:03:19,175
Uh, we did have a, a a a lesser sizable turnout

920
01:03:19,175 --> 01:03:20,295
for the Christmas card exchange,

921
01:03:20,435 --> 01:03:22,935
but we would like to see that happen again.

922
01:03:23,325 --> 01:03:25,775
It's down, at least at the Bristow household. It's down.

923
01:03:26,405 --> 01:03:30,395
Lots of folks are sending email kinds of things these days.

924
01:03:30,395 --> 01:03:32,355
Well, so don't, don't feel, don't feel bad.

925
01:03:32,635 --> 01:03:33,995
I don't feel bad. We just wanna make,

926
01:03:34,055 --> 01:03:36,195
we want, we like the old school.

927
01:03:36,195 --> 01:03:38,435
We just wanna try and promote the, in the community.

928
01:03:38,535 --> 01:03:43,095
So that's about it for the president. Um, borough engineer.

929
01:03:44,685 --> 01:03:46,115
Happy New Year. Mr. Peterson.

930
01:03:46,935 --> 01:03:50,115
Uh, I understand, um, Mr.

931
01:03:50,265 --> 01:03:52,035
Already handed the stormwater ordinance.

932
01:03:52,095 --> 01:03:54,595
Yep. So I'll skip on.

933
01:03:54,895 --> 01:03:56,435
Uh, the other item I wanted to discuss

934
01:03:56,435 --> 01:03:58,755
that this is something we touched on, uh,

935
01:03:59,295 --> 01:04:03,355
around again this summer, is that, uh, we'd like to gear up

936
01:04:03,375 --> 01:04:05,435
to start implementing the PA small water

937
01:04:05,435 --> 01:04:07,635
and sewer project that the borough was awarded for

938
01:04:07,995 --> 01:04:12,275
after storm water improvements for $422,301.

939
01:04:12,815 --> 01:04:15,115
Um, tonight I'm asking authorization from the council

940
01:04:15,135 --> 01:04:16,315
to begin the survey work

941
01:04:16,315 --> 01:04:19,875
and the design work on that project and get going.

942
01:04:22,005 --> 01:04:25,655
I would, I'll make the motion. Uh, and do I have a second?

943
01:04:25,715 --> 01:04:29,215
Second motion. And second. All in favor? A aye aye.

944
01:04:29,275 --> 01:04:30,535
Go forth. Go to town

945
01:04:31,045 --> 01:04:32,045
Very much. Um,

946
01:04:32,045 --> 01:04:34,335
and then also just the remaining item, just

947
01:04:34,335 --> 01:04:35,575
to let you know we're working on it,

948
01:04:35,835 --> 01:04:37,055
is the fire main strike.

949
01:04:37,635 --> 01:04:39,335
Um, with it being short meeting

950
01:04:39,335 --> 01:04:40,775
cycle, the working on sketch.

951
01:04:40,795 --> 01:04:43,855
And I understand that we're still gonna reach out to, um,

952
01:04:45,315 --> 01:04:46,735
for, for pricing on that.

953
01:04:46,995 --> 01:04:49,255
Is that what we had decided? Ask? Yes. Okay.

954
01:04:49,935 --> 01:04:52,515
So that's in progress. And, uh, follow that on.

955
01:04:53,615 --> 01:04:57,195
Can I, I, in, in the light to that, if you recall,

956
01:04:57,195 --> 01:04:58,675
you just got a, uh, we have a highway

957
01:04:58,675 --> 01:04:59,955
opening right at that area?

958
01:05:00,775 --> 01:05:03,475
Yes. Where Okay. So mean it is not gonna

959
01:05:03,475 --> 01:05:04,635
happen right away anyway.

960
01:05:05,055 --> 01:05:09,555
Um, the new owners of the duplex put in for a, a gas h****r,

961
01:05:10,175 --> 01:05:11,755
so there's going to be a road opening there.

962
01:05:11,755 --> 01:05:14,155
So I wouldn't say it's strike them for that anyway.

963
01:05:15,235 --> 01:05:16,835
I mean, it'd probably be advisable to do

964
01:05:16,835 --> 01:05:20,415
that in the spring time anyway, so, um,

965
01:05:20,705 --> 01:05:21,775
which we may need time

966
01:05:21,775 --> 01:05:23,415
to get ley back from Buck Mile anyway.

967
01:05:23,415 --> 01:05:24,535
And I, and I anticipate

968
01:05:24,535 --> 01:05:26,455
that would be the timeframe probably.

969
01:05:26,635 --> 01:05:27,735
So. I'm sorry. Um,

970
01:05:28,025 --> 01:05:31,015
Janet, the Yes, they put does the,

971
01:05:31,135 --> 01:05:33,935
I thought the main came up from Greeley

972
01:05:34,435 --> 01:05:35,855
and stopped at the firehouse.

973
01:05:37,265 --> 01:05:38,595
Does the gas meeting go that far?

974
01:05:38,905 --> 01:05:41,595
Yeah, it's at that block. They've already pikas already.

975
01:05:41,825 --> 01:05:43,795
Okay, cool. We, the duplex is all

976
01:05:43,795 --> 01:05:44,915
right across from the firehouse.

977
01:05:44,915 --> 01:05:46,115
Mm-hmm. At that. Yeah.

978
01:05:46,945 --> 01:05:48,835
Okay. I I, I thought the main stopped

979
01:05:48,925 --> 01:05:51,155
short of that, but, okay. Good. Good, good, good.

980
01:05:51,575 --> 01:05:55,245
No, and uh, just a reminder, I will not be able

981
01:05:55,245 --> 01:05:57,925
to attend next meeting due to a preplanned vacation.

982
01:05:58,065 --> 01:06:02,605
So let know we somebody to Carol Yeah. Somebody to replace.

983
01:06:06,125 --> 01:06:08,765
I think we can do without, we can't do without you, Chris,

984
01:06:08,765 --> 01:06:10,365
but I think we can do without you for one meeting.

985
01:06:12,035 --> 01:06:15,655
Uh, will Mr. Pre I'm gonna, I'm gonna ask

986
01:06:15,655 --> 01:06:18,815
that since we crossed over now to the magic seven o'clock,

987
01:06:19,605 --> 01:06:22,415
just to cross, you know, cross our T's

988
01:06:22,415 --> 01:06:24,215
and dot Horizons reopen the hearing.

989
01:06:26,725 --> 01:06:28,615
Okay. Hearing is reopened. And

990
01:06:28,615 --> 01:06:31,735
This is on the storm order management ordinance counsel,

991
01:06:32,235 --> 01:06:36,855
um, has it, I would ask if there's any public comment,

992
01:06:37,595 --> 01:06:39,615
um, on that, on the ordinance.

993
01:06:40,165 --> 01:06:42,975
There's no public comment on the ordinance. Any questions?

994
01:06:43,155 --> 01:06:47,135
So the, just for the record then, the council has, has, uh,

995
01:06:47,255 --> 01:06:49,455
approved it, it is been, uh, I'm assuming

996
01:06:49,455 --> 01:06:51,975
that there's no change in, in the decision

997
01:06:52,515 --> 01:06:54,615
and now anything comes up.

998
01:06:54,635 --> 01:06:56,735
At least, at least it's, uh,

999
01:06:56,965 --> 01:06:58,095
It's within the meeting

1000
01:06:58,545 --> 01:07:01,615
After seven o'clock. That'll be

1001
01:07:02,605 --> 01:07:04,025
All in favor of closing the hearing.

1002
01:07:05,005 --> 01:07:06,005
Aye, aye.

1003
01:07:07,995 --> 01:07:10,565
Copy signing tonight as well. Okay.

1004
01:07:10,745 --> 01:07:14,445
If you don't have them. So I have copy signature,

1005
01:07:14,675 --> 01:07:16,525
just doing black signature page.

1006
01:07:17,985 --> 01:07:21,875
All right. Anything else, Chris?

1007
01:07:22,465 --> 01:07:24,045
That's it. Thank you very Much. Thank you.

1008
01:07:27,205 --> 01:07:29,145
Who would like to open up if UNM finished business?

1009
01:07:31,835 --> 01:07:33,655
I got nothing really.

1010
01:07:34,715 --> 01:07:37,175
That's, I know it's especially, uh, haven't,

1011
01:07:37,175 --> 01:07:39,975
Haven't had time to gear, haven't had time to gear up

1012
01:07:39,975 --> 01:07:40,975
Yet, Mr. Mayor.

1013
01:07:40,975 --> 01:07:41,505


1014
01:07:43,045 --> 01:07:45,895
Okay. The, uh, police report for the month

1015
01:07:45,895 --> 01:07:47,815
of December, 2024.

1016
01:07:48,895 --> 01:07:50,645
There were 13 traffic

1017
01:07:51,205 --> 01:07:53,205
citations issued in one written warning.

1018
01:07:54,195 --> 01:07:55,365
Very quiet month.

1019
01:07:55,865 --> 01:07:58,965
Um, the court check has not

1020
01:07:59,025 --> 01:08:02,045
yet been received from Bucks County Court, so

1021
01:08:02,725 --> 01:08:04,125
I will hopefully have both of those

1022
01:08:04,185 --> 01:08:06,605
for the next meeting. And that's the report.

1023
01:08:07,385 --> 01:08:07,725
All right,

1024
01:08:12,425 --> 01:08:13,075
park and Rec.

1025
01:08:16,495 --> 01:08:18,245
Happy New Year, everyone. Happy, happy

1026
01:08:18,245 --> 01:08:18,885
New Year. Yours.

1027
01:08:19,385 --> 01:08:23,645
Hey, we had our, uh, luminary event, uh, on Christmas Eve.

1028
01:08:24,125 --> 01:08:27,005
I just wanted to give a, a shout out to those who helped.

1029
01:08:27,665 --> 01:08:31,045
Um, you know, shout out to James McCullough over here

1030
01:08:31,225 --> 01:08:35,285
and the borough helping me put those up on, uh,

1031
01:08:35,785 --> 01:08:37,045
you know, in the commons area.

1032
01:08:37,345 --> 01:08:39,445
Uh, Chuck, I believe you helped as well. Yep.

1033
01:08:39,765 --> 01:08:42,165
I know you, it's easy p so I appreciate your help with that.

1034
01:08:42,465 --> 01:08:44,805
Uh, and then shout out to my neighbors, uh, Emily,

1035
01:08:44,865 --> 01:08:46,565
who came out to help my son, Zane.

1036
01:08:46,985 --> 01:08:50,925
Uh, my nephew Leo, AKA Lavonne, uh,

1037
01:08:51,915 --> 01:08:55,485
also to Deb, my neighbor Deb and my neighbor Mike.

1038
01:08:55,905 --> 01:08:59,765
Uh, just helping me get those hundred out by the gazebo,

1039
01:09:00,025 --> 01:09:01,965
you know, made for a really great, uh,

1040
01:09:02,055 --> 01:09:03,485
photo and really great event.

1041
01:09:03,825 --> 01:09:06,955
So appreciate it. Other than that, all quiet.

1042
01:09:07,725 --> 01:09:08,725
Oh, Nice. Thank you.

1043
01:09:08,805 --> 01:09:11,925
Thanks li. Mr. Shoots and walks.

1044
01:09:14,085 --> 01:09:15,825
Uh, that's too much going on.

1045
01:09:15,825 --> 01:09:17,265
We had a couple of snow events.

1046
01:09:17,685 --> 01:09:19,185
Uh, got a,

1047
01:09:19,205 --> 01:09:21,905
got some constructive feedback from a couple of residents.

1048
01:09:22,645 --> 01:09:27,345
Um, you know, with regard to the, um, the, uh,

1049
01:09:27,935 --> 01:09:30,765
snow and ice removal, all good.

1050
01:09:30,995 --> 01:09:35,005
Sean Kirkpatrick is, is has taken over Granier, uh,

1051
01:09:35,005 --> 01:09:36,205
company as you know.

1052
01:09:37,185 --> 01:09:39,725
Um, we have, I asked Janet to send me the contract.

1053
01:09:39,725 --> 01:09:42,645
We have a renewal company we renewed up until November.

1054
01:09:43,595 --> 01:09:46,215
So I'm gonna take a look at that in advance of the renewal

1055
01:09:46,315 --> 01:09:48,655
and um, see if we can tweak a few things.

1056
01:09:48,735 --> 01:09:50,535
I mean, we're getting, we're getting killed with salt

1057
01:09:50,955 --> 01:09:54,975
and uh, as a member of the Bucks County Consortium, um,

1058
01:09:55,595 --> 01:09:59,895
we can purchase salt in bulk, uh, at a,

1059
01:09:59,895 --> 01:10:01,215
at a real steep discount.

1060
01:10:01,355 --> 01:10:04,775
So I think that's one of the items that I would like to

1061
01:10:05,615 --> 01:10:09,095
renegotiate if we stay with Granier when we renew.

1062
01:10:09,155 --> 01:10:12,135
If we renew. But otherwise we're doing a good job.

1063
01:10:12,755 --> 01:10:14,415
You know, Sean's a pleasure to work with

1064
01:10:15,235 --> 01:10:16,815
and you know, the in info, the uh,

1065
01:10:17,055 --> 01:10:18,735
feedback I got from the residents were, you know,

1066
01:10:18,755 --> 01:10:19,815
as I say constructive.

1067
01:10:19,895 --> 01:10:22,415
I mean they were, he, he had this guy blow using

1068
01:10:23,335 --> 01:10:25,535
blowers at like four 30 in the morning to blow.

1069
01:10:25,775 --> 01:10:28,755
'cause it was such a light snow event, you know,

1070
01:10:28,755 --> 01:10:32,395
to blow the snow off the sidewalks, uh, around the, uh,

1071
01:10:33,295 --> 01:10:34,435
around the gazebo.

1072
01:10:35,015 --> 01:10:38,155
So, you know, I said, look, you know, that's a little early.

1073
01:10:38,555 --> 01:10:40,515
It's a little early. Yes. And he understood.

1074
01:10:40,735 --> 01:10:43,915
So, you know, uh, I appreciated the, uh, the feedback

1075
01:10:43,975 --> 01:10:46,955
and um, uh, overall everybody was pleased.

1076
01:10:48,035 --> 01:10:50,855
Oh, for as far as salt on the consortium, I mean,

1077
01:10:50,855 --> 01:10:52,775
would the consortium allow us

1078
01:10:52,835 --> 01:10:54,895
to have a third party contractor come in

1079
01:10:55,195 --> 01:10:56,895
and grab salt on our behalf?

1080
01:10:57,195 --> 01:10:58,935
Or do we have to take a bulk delivery of it

1081
01:10:59,195 --> 01:11:00,335
and do we need to store it?

1082
01:11:00,765 --> 01:11:03,295
Yeah, I mean, the consortium buys it in bulk.

1083
01:11:03,635 --> 01:11:07,055
Um, and obviously the

1084
01:11:07,595 --> 01:11:11,495
municipalities generally have an a, you know, a guy

1085
01:11:11,495 --> 01:11:13,845
that does public works who, who

1086
01:11:13,845 --> 01:11:14,925
Public works departments

1087
01:11:15,065 --> 01:11:16,925
Who, who, so, who spreads the salt?

1088
01:11:17,145 --> 01:11:18,885
So I don't know the answer to that.

1089
01:11:19,875 --> 01:11:21,845
Also be an inner municipal agreement

1090
01:11:21,915 --> 01:11:23,805
with someone else who's willing to store it

1091
01:11:23,805 --> 01:11:25,485
for you and you can come. Right.

1092
01:11:25,585 --> 01:11:26,685
And that, that's what I'm thinking.

1093
01:11:26,685 --> 01:11:27,885
We could have some kind of agreement

1094
01:11:28,305 --> 01:11:31,445
and then our contractor would go to that facility

1095
01:11:31,625 --> 01:11:33,485
to pick up the saw as opposed to,

1096
01:11:34,145 --> 01:11:35,325
you know, selling it to us.

1097
01:11:36,245 --> 01:11:37,935
Okay. I think.

1098
01:11:38,565 --> 01:11:40,535
Good idea. It's a great idea.

1099
01:11:40,725 --> 01:11:44,655
Yeah. I think They probably, that's probably not, um,

1100
01:11:45,565 --> 01:11:47,305
an unusual what way for them to work.

1101
01:11:47,305 --> 01:11:49,105
They just go pick it up as needed,

1102
01:11:49,125 --> 01:11:51,065
but they're paying the lower rate.

1103
01:11:52,615 --> 01:11:54,535
A lot of the municipalities around here do it that way.

1104
01:11:55,555 --> 01:11:56,685
Yeah. The, the thing,

1105
01:11:56,795 --> 01:12:00,205
unfortunately we don't really have representation at the

1106
01:12:00,205 --> 01:12:01,445
consortium meetings.

1107
01:12:01,625 --> 01:12:03,965
Um, you know, that they frown upon the public

1108
01:12:03,965 --> 01:12:05,005
officials being there.

1109
01:12:05,865 --> 01:12:09,245
So I don't, you know, really have my finger on the pulse of,

1110
01:12:09,465 --> 01:12:11,685
of, you know, the specifics.

1111
01:12:11,825 --> 01:12:15,995
But you know, like I said, I, I just, I just know, you know,

1112
01:12:15,995 --> 01:12:18,835
there's a lot of roadway to salt and salt's not cheap.

1113
01:12:19,335 --> 01:12:21,715
And I know that there's savings to be had

1114
01:12:22,295 --> 01:12:24,555
and I think we would be remiss not

1115
01:12:24,555 --> 01:12:28,075
to explore the possibility of, you know, buying the salt

1116
01:12:28,615 --> 01:12:31,795
and supplying the salt to our contractor if our contractor

1117
01:12:32,535 --> 01:12:33,755
was willing to work with us.

1118
01:12:45,365 --> 01:12:49,455
Thanks Todd. Anything else? Nope.

1119
01:12:51,515 --> 01:12:54,015
Uh, we talked a little bit about finance already. Yeah.

1120
01:12:54,015 --> 01:12:55,455
Nothing to report from finance.

1121
01:12:56,985 --> 01:12:58,855
Appreciate all your hard work.

1122
01:12:59,725 --> 01:13:00,785
No problem. Planning commission.

1123
01:13:01,765 --> 01:13:04,065
Uh, we are Meeting on the 23rd of this month

1124
01:13:04,245 --> 01:13:07,385
to discuss the sketch plan for 21 Chase Avenue.

1125
01:13:10,605 --> 01:13:14,605
Okay. For our property. Nothing.

1126
01:13:16,005 --> 01:13:19,465
Alright. Fire company is not here.

1127
01:13:21,375 --> 01:13:22,375
Public safety.

1128
01:13:24,255 --> 01:13:27,755
Um, actually I have something to say for the fire company.

1129
01:13:28,325 --> 01:13:29,955
We're short one signature.

1130
01:13:33,775 --> 01:13:35,975
Are we? Well, seven of us.

1131
01:13:38,695 --> 01:13:41,545
What? I know there's, we're short one signature position.

1132
01:13:42,815 --> 01:13:44,545
Just add it to the bottom. Okay.

1133
01:13:46,015 --> 01:13:49,145
I'll que it in, don't worry. Right.

1134
01:13:49,205 --> 01:13:53,305
Um, for the firehouse, I'm just, they tech,

1135
01:13:53,305 --> 01:13:55,185
they emailed you the thing.

1136
01:13:55,465 --> 01:13:57,905
I just want to put it out there that on February 19th

1137
01:13:58,445 --> 01:14:00,585
at Tony's place, they do have a fundraiser.

1138
01:14:00,885 --> 01:14:03,425
What's that date again? Uh, February 19th.

1139
01:14:04,245 --> 01:14:06,225
I'm sure we'll make the announcement again next month,

1140
01:14:06,285 --> 01:14:08,145
but I figured I'd put it out there

1141
01:14:08,345 --> 01:14:09,785
'cause it's in my hands right now.

1142
01:14:09,965 --> 01:14:10,985
So, um,

1143
01:14:11,315 --> 01:14:12,605
It's the same as last year.

1144
01:14:13,065 --> 01:14:15,405
The one where you print the flyer.

1145
01:14:16,275 --> 01:14:17,885
It's that, I don't know.

1146
01:14:17,885 --> 01:14:19,285
They don't have the specifics to it.

1147
01:14:19,285 --> 01:14:21,085
Yeah, because it was February of last year.

1148
01:14:21,235 --> 01:14:23,605
They flyer for minutes.

1149
01:14:24,415 --> 01:14:26,795
It is, it is an 11 to an 11 event, so

1150
01:14:27,425 --> 01:14:28,425
Yeah. Okay.

1151
01:14:28,425 --> 01:14:29,025


1152
01:14:29,465 --> 01:14:32,275
Just to put it out there. It was, uh,

1153
01:14:32,955 --> 01:14:35,435
February 19th at Tony's place from 11:00 AM

1154
01:14:35,435 --> 01:14:38,715
to 11:00 PM Wow.

1155
01:14:39,135 --> 01:14:40,395
And then as far as uh,

1156
01:14:40,395 --> 01:14:43,315
public safety goes, we're all good right now.

1157
01:14:44,955 --> 01:14:49,085
Judge, nothing from emergency management.

1158
01:14:49,815 --> 01:14:54,565
Any new business that anyone would like to conduct bring up?

1159
01:14:56,845 --> 01:14:59,785
Yes. Chief Darren was instrumental in

1160
01:15:00,455 --> 01:15:02,945
getting the flags placed.

1161
01:15:02,965 --> 01:15:05,505
The back staff for president car.

1162
01:15:07,345 --> 01:15:08,905
I Picked up the borough one yesterday

1163
01:15:17,885 --> 01:15:18,995
being a flag ski.

1164
01:15:19,105 --> 01:15:22,155
I'll have to go over a flag ordering with you.

1165
01:15:22,335 --> 01:15:24,315
What's that? Flagged The ordering

1166
01:15:24,625 --> 01:15:25,625
Flag. Ordering

1167
01:15:25,625 --> 01:15:26,715
for bracket

1168
01:15:27,475 --> 01:15:28,835
Brackets Memorial Park.

1169
01:15:29,135 --> 01:15:32,995
Um, that flags down at the Memorial Park as well. Will go.

1170
01:15:33,615 --> 01:15:36,035
You having your January park rec meeting?

1171
01:15:39,335 --> 01:15:42,075
No. Well then, we'll you and I'll get together on it.

1172
01:15:42,345 --> 01:15:44,555
Alright. Alright.

1173
01:15:46,295 --> 01:15:46,715
How that

1174
01:15:54,415 --> 01:15:54,635
Yes.

1175
01:15:57,215 --> 01:15:59,395
And they see chair with ears.

1176
01:16:06,335 --> 01:16:07,085
Thank God for that.

1177
01:16:12,005 --> 01:16:13,735
Solicitor are still the same

1178
01:16:20,315 --> 01:16:21,315
Business.

1179
01:16:21,785 --> 01:16:22,885
Any more public comment?

1180
01:16:24,085 --> 01:16:25,225
No more public comment.

1181
01:16:37,425 --> 01:16:42,325
It is 11 minutes after seven. Yeah, but it's really

1182
01:16:43,195 --> 01:16:44,605
71 minutes after seven.

1183
01:16:44,605 --> 01:16:46,685
Yeah, that's so you can put it in the record. Yep.

1184
01:16:46,685 --> 01:16:50,205
Thank you. So then I didn't figure I needed to read it all.

1185
01:16:51,935 --> 01:16:52,935
Thank you.

1186
01:16:55,195 --> 01:16:57,885
I make a motion to adjourn. Second,

1187
01:16:58,375 --> 01:16:59,645
Thank you all for your hard work.