[0:05] >> Welcome to the 30th regular meeting of the Jackson County [0:08] Legislature. [0:09] It is Monday, August 10, 2026. [0:15] The time is 3:03, when we are at the eastern Jackson County [0:20] Courthouse common ground floor, legislative chambers paramedic [0:24] madam clerk, we're going to call the roll. [0:27] I want to know that legislator Flower asked to be excused. [0:36] >> Thank you, Ms. Chair. [0:42] [roll call] [0:54] Five present, three absent, one excused. [0:58] >> Please join me for the Pledge of Allegiance. [1:01] >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States [1:03] of America and to the Republic for which it stands, [1:03] one nation under God, indivisible, [1:04] with liberty and justice for all. [1:20] >> Is there a motion to approve the journal? [1:23] >> So moved. [1:24] >> Second. [1:25] >> All in favor? [1:27] [members voting] [1:28] Is anyone opposed? [1:29] Today is August the 10th, 2026. [1:32] And I will open the public hearing for resolution 22367, [1:38] authorizing the County Executive to take [1:40] necessary preliminary steps to facilitate [1:42] the issuance of a special obligation [1:44] bonds for improvements to University health facilities [1:48] and services. [1:49] If you have not signed in yet, we [1:54] do have a sign in sheet outside. [1:57] I need you to sign in as soon as possible [1:59] if you would like to speak. [2:00] Anyone wishing to give testimony will need [2:04] to be sworn in by our clerk. [2:07] The clerk of the legislature. [2:10] Once your sworn in, when your name is called, [2:12] please come to the podium, state your full name clearly, [2:16] if you're representing your organization, please say that [2:19] as well. [2:20] Each speaker will have two minutes. [2:23] And the deputy county clerk will keep the time. [2:25] So please wrap up your thoughts when you hear the timer sound. [2:30] All comments should be directed to the county legislature [2:34] and not other members of the audience. [2:37] Please click your remarks on this subject of this hearing. [2:40] We ask that you avoid repeating points [2:42] made by previous speakers. [2:45] If you have written testimony or documents, [2:48] please hand them to the county Clerk or Deputy County [2:50] clerk after you speak. [2:52] These will be labeled as exhibits. [2:55] Madam Clerk, if anyone is going to testify, please stand [3:01] and you'll be sworn in. [3:02] If you are thinking about testifying, [3:05] we stand and You'll be sworn in. [3:14] Madam Clerk. [3:16] >> So you affirm that your testimony will be the truth [3:18] and nothing but the truth? [3:20] >> Please join us right over here. [3:23] >> Madam chairman? [3:24] I have these handouts that the legislator [3:26] got from University Health that I would like to pass out. [3:29] >> Thank you. [3:39] Thank you. [3:40] Mr. Schills, thank you for being here. [3:43] Please state your name and organization. [3:45] >> Thank you, Charles William Shiells with University health. [3:54] I'm here in support of the special obligation bonds [3:56] to revitalize the Lakewood campus. [3:59] You all have heard the presentation a couple of weeks [4:02] ago. [4:03] And we appreciate the executive voting and legislation [4:10] moving forward on this. [4:11] We think this is a unique opportunity [4:12] to revitalize what is a valuable county asset that provides [4:17] health services, particularly to the underserved of Jackson [4:22] County. [4:22] It is a unique. [4:23] We are the only safety net hospital in Missouri [4:26] that is supported by County. [4:28] We serve 130,000 patients, many of them are the Lakewood campus. [4:34] These plans will move this forward and some of the county [4:37] will be proud of and the patients can [4:39] receive extraordinary services. [4:40] The short version is it replaces buildings [4:43] that were built in 1908, 1928 with new modernized facilities. [4:47] It also makes an investment in others [4:51] in the county and the ability to deliver primary care. [4:54] We appreciate the leadership of the County executive. [4:56] We appreciate you moving forward on this. [4:58] This will be a legacy issue for this executive County [5:03] legislature. [5:04] We appreciate your support. [5:06] >> Thank you so much. [5:08] Do we have any questions from the legislature? [5:15] >> Madam Chair, I just want to say that on the record that over [5:18] my past two terms here, this has been an issue, [5:21] something we have been needing to get done even before I came [5:24] on eight years ago. [5:25] And so I just want to make it clear -- [5:28] crystal clear that my support for this is unwavering. [5:30] And I will urge my colleagues to support this plan [5:33] that is being proposed by the County Executive [5:35] and that we finish the job on an area that [5:40] has served so many of our constituents [5:42] over the past how many years now? [5:46] 100 and what? [5:48] >> Going back to 1851. [5:51] >> Just a short time. [5:53] Anyway, this has my full and complete support. [5:55] >> Thank you so much. [5:58] Since there is no other testimony, [6:00] the public hearing is now closed. [6:12] We want to make sure that our county clerk has this exhibit. [6:16] Thank you so much. [6:20] Now we will have -- as a matter of fact, madam clerk, [6:26] could you please read 22367? [6:31] >> Authorizing the County executive to take necessary [6:33] preliminary steps to facilitate the issuance of special [6:36] obligation bonds for improvements to university [6:38] health facilities and services. [6:39] Legislature as a whole. [6:42] >> I know this is a bit of an order, [6:44] but is there any discussion? [6:46] >> I'll move to adopt. [6:49] >> My second. [6:50] >> It has been moved and seconded. [6:52] Any discussion? [6:55] Hearing none madam clerk , please call the roll. [7:01] >> [7:02] [members voting] [7:15] Five yes, three absent, one excused. [7:19] >> Thank you so much to the legislature. [7:22] I applaud you for taking this action today. [7:27] We will hear from our county executive. [7:30] >> Madam chairwoman, members of the legislature, [7:34] the annual audit compiled every year has been completed. [7:39] It dealt with fiscal year ending December 31st, 2025. [7:42] I have given all of you a copy of this last week. [7:48] Next legislative meeting, next Monday, we [7:52] will have the auditor here in person [7:54] if you have any questions. [7:55] As you understand, within 30 days of being presented [7:59] with the audit, the independent auditor [8:01] shall be present to be able to take any questions from you. [8:05] That'll be August 17th. [8:07] After that the legislature votes to accept [8:09] the county's financial statements for public record. [8:12] Then it can be released to that -- [8:16] the annual comprehensive audit report is available after that [8:20] vote. [8:20] As you are reading over the next week, [8:23] there were two specific issues that they brought up. [8:27] One was the opioid issue. [8:31] We have an opioid settlement with the county. [8:35] We receive several millions of dollars every year. [8:38] And in the past, they have not accounted [8:43] for the future opioid payments coming to the county. [8:47] So the auditor said that's something [8:49] that ought to be dealt with because we weren't sure what [8:51] was coming in and we do know. [8:53] We should know. [8:54] And last year it was not compiled. [8:56] We are on top of that now. [8:58] The other one is that they found some informational services, [9:02] some servers that have outlasted their usage is [9:06] one of the issues of their findings. [9:09] But the rest of it is in this report that you have a copy of. [9:12] Next week the auditor will be here [9:14] to take any of your questions. [9:15] And that is all I have. [9:16] >> Thank you. [9:17] Do we have any questions for the County executive? [9:22] I do want to ask one question. [9:25] That is in regard to our senior tax Levy. [9:27] I know that lowered is in place. [9:30] They are working diligently. [9:31] Can you give us an update on that? [9:34] >> As you know and for people that are watching and Listening, [9:38] the senior tax Levy that this party was part [9:45] of the partnership that got it together, the board is empty. [9:50] It had several millions of dollars in empty. [9:52] We got the board appointed. [9:54] I think in the springtime. [9:57] They are working now. [9:57] I have a meeting with them to talk to them [9:59] in the next couple of weeks. [10:01] But they have a plan. [10:02] And I would like to ask them to come to the legislature [10:04] and say here is a plan. [10:05] I'll be quite honest with you. [10:06] When I pointed to members of the board, [10:08] I told them I want you to spend some money. [10:10] I want you to spend that money you've [10:12] got in the bank for seniors, the people of Jackson County [10:14] have been taxed on to get it out there. [10:16] And they all said you bet. [10:18] And so they have a plan. [10:19] They have a formula. [10:21] If it is okay with this body, I would [10:22] like to have them come and say here [10:23] is our plan for the next 3 or 4 years of spending. [10:25] I say spending tax money. [10:28] I mean giving to the seniors that need that service. [10:31] But I would like to ask if I could [10:33] bring the board or at least the board chair [10:35] in front of the legislature and make that. [10:37] >> Sure we look forward to that. [10:39] I certainly welcome that. [10:42] >> Clarification. [10:44] So could we make sure that our legislative auditor has met with [10:51] and understands how the board feels like they're [10:55] going to proceed with the distribution of funds, selection [10:57] of who is going to be awarded funds? [11:01] We have some rules we have to comply with. [11:04] And being a new board, I don't want [11:07] to get them started on the wrong track. [11:09] >> That's a very good point because the board thinks they [11:12] can spend dollars on good programs. [11:13] But there was a compliance issue and stuff goes. [11:16] I will get Mr. Thomas on board with them. [11:19] And he can review the proposal and their plan. [11:22] >> Thank you. [11:22] >> Thank you so much. [11:25] Perfection is proposed ordinances and reports [11:28] of committee ordinance 6050. [11:32] >> Private and law enforcement officers from concealing [11:34] their faces or badges during the performance of duties [11:36] and establishing penalties and exemptions, [11:38] legislature as a whole. [11:40] >> Move to adopt. [11:43] >> Second. [11:44] >> It has been moved and seconded to adopt. [11:47] >> Sorry, moved to perfect. [11:50] >> It has been moved to perfect and sent to the. [11:52] I would like to hear from our county council in regard [11:55] to this matter. [11:58] >> Thank you Madam Chair. [12:01] This refers back to the anti masking [12:03] ordinance that was proposed back in January of this year. [12:06] The counselor's office previously [12:08] had sent an opinion over. [12:10] And without reading it entirely, it goes to the fact [12:14] that the supremacy clause would supercede the issue [12:23] for the federal law that applies for this matter [12:27] on federal agents. [12:40] US vs State of California came out recently -- [12:48] prevent officers from performing their functions. [12:52] The plan is in motion for injunction pending appeal. [12:55] The federal government won that case. [12:58] And they supported the injunction [13:00] so it could not go into place against the federal officers. [13:04] That continuously happened in Virginia. [13:06] There was cases from New York and the city of Philadelphia [13:12] and the city of Los Angeles. [13:14] They consistently said the supremacy Clause [13:16] would take effect. [13:18] And therefore, for that and the opinion you previously wrote, [13:22] we believe it should be unsigned, [13:24] and we will be subject to liability [13:27] if we were to enact that ordinance. [13:32] >> Thank you so much. [13:33] Any questions? [13:35] >> Madam chair thank you Madam Chair. [13:39] I will just say that the amount of attacks [13:44] and personal challenges that this has given and specifically [13:48] to the Latino community is something [13:52] that should frighten all of us. [13:54] I understand what the County Councilor just said [13:58] and I respect that opinion. [14:00] The reason why I'll be voting yes Is because of the way [14:08] the federal government has been using this [14:11] as a tactic to bring fear to communities [14:12] that have done nothing wrong. [14:14] And until this United States starts to understand that no one [14:17] is illegal, a person cannot be illegal, [14:20] we will have to face whatever comes down from the federal [14:23] government and from these courts. [14:25] But my heart and soul Are with those [14:32] who face there terrible times, especially [14:35] the young children who are just trying [14:37] to make their way in this life. [14:39] But that is I wanted to give my reasoning why I'll [14:43] be voting yes, madam chair. [14:45] >> Thank you so much. [14:47] Any other comments? [14:49] >> I would like to say that I totally understand the supremacy [14:54] clause. [14:54] I totally understand that people's rights, however, [14:58] are being violated. [14:59] And I also understand that I am in a position where [15:02] I am responsible to look at the finances for the County. [15:10] If we pass this, we will be setting ourselves up for -- [15:15] I can't even estimate how many fees [15:18] we would have to pay and attorney fees [15:20] and what have you when a precedent has been [15:24] set for the Supremacy Clause. [15:27] I am stating here because this is what I believe. [15:31] I believe it is wrong for people to be [15:35] accosted by members of law enforcement [15:38] that do not show their face. [15:40] That do not wear their badges. [15:43] But I am also a public servant. [15:45] And I must serve the county to the best of my ability. [15:49] Madam clerk, would you please call the roll? [15:55] [members voting] [15:56] >> Just to clarify, madam chair, this is ordinance 6050? [16:03] >> Correct. [16:04] >> My vote on the ordinance is no. [16:09] [members voting] [16:32] >> 2 yes, 3 no, 2 abstaining, 1 absent, 1 excused. [16:46] >> Ordinance 6077. [16:58] >>enacting section 6004., of the Jackson County 1984, [17:00] relating to standards for care and treatment in Jackson [17:00] residential facilities with a severability clause, [17:02] the legislature as a whole. [17:13] >> From Committee? [17:16] We will hold 6077. [17:21] Ordinance 6091. [17:23] >> Submitting to the qualified voters of Jackson County [17:27] a general election to be heldNovember 3, 2026, [17:30] a authorizing Jackson County to impose a countywide sales tax [17:32] of one half one percent for public transportation purposes. [17:38] Legislature as a whole. [17:40] >> I will move to perfect. [17:42] >> Is there a second? [17:43] >> I second. [17:44] >> Is there discussion? [17:52] >> One quick procedural question, [17:53] did we do a public hearing on this and we were -- [18:04] were we required to? [18:06] >> I don't know. [18:07] I'd have to ask the attorneys. [18:10] >> I don't recall there being a public hearing. [18:15] >> I don't believe there was. [18:16] We also haven't signed it because there is [18:18] no statute applicable to this. [18:19] And that is what we testified to last week. [18:22] Shared that before, I think, as being recommended. [18:49] >> Any other discussion? [18:52] Madam Clerk? [18:53] >> On the motion to perfect, Anderson. [18:59] >> No. [19:00] >> Smith. [19:01] >> No. [19:03] >> Abarca. [19:06] Huskey. [19:07] >> No. [19:08] >> Franklin. [19:11] >> No. [19:12] >> Lauer. [19:13] Smith, Peyton. [19:15] >> No. [19:16] >> 7 no, 1 absent, 1 excused. [19:22] >> Ordinance 6097. [19:30] >>establishing the position of Legislative Intern [19:32] within Office of the Jackson County Legislature [19:32] and setting forth governing the appointment, supervision, [19:34] and employment of Legislative Interns. [19:38] legislature as a whole. [19:41] >> Madam chair? [19:42] I am working on a substitute for this. [19:45] So if the body is okay with it and you're okay with it, [19:48] I would like to hold. [19:50] >> We will hold. [19:51] Ordinance 6105. [19:58] >> repealing sections 1030. and 1040. of the County Code, 1984, [20:00] relating to competitive bidding, and enacting, in thereof, [20:03] two new sections relating to the same subject. [20:06] finance and audit Committee. [20:08] >> Report from Committee? [20:10] This committee did not meet today. [20:11] We will hold. [20:15] Ordinance 6109. [20:15] >>appropriating $32,000.00 from the undesignated balance [20:18] of the 2026 Anti-Crime Sales Tax Fund and authorizing Prosecuting [20:18] Attorney to execute an agreement with a certain outside which is [20:18] engaged in anti-crime, anti-violence, [20:18] drug prevention and activities, at a cost to the County not [20:20] to exceed $32,000.00. [20:35] Anti-crime committee. [20:37] >> Report from Committee. [20:39] >> Committee recommends perfection. [20:41] I move to perfection. [20:44] >> I will second. [20:45] >> All those in favor of perfection? [20:50] [members voting] [20:51] >> Do we need a roll call? [20:52] >> No, just for the adoption. [20:54] Is there a motion to adopt? [20:57] >> I second. [20:59] >> Yes, but do we want to adopt? [21:02] >> Do we have enough here? [21:04] >> A motion to adopt. [21:06] Is there a second? [21:08] >> Yes, motion to adopt please. [21:12] >> I will second. [21:13] >> Is there any discussion? [21:15] Madam clerk please call the roll. [21:21] [members voting] [21:32] >> 7 yes, 1 excused, 1 absent. [21:37] >> Ordinance 6110. [21:45] >> appropriating $82,500.00 from the undesignated balance [21:48] of the 2026 Grant Fund, in acceptance of a grant received [21:48] from United States Office of National Drug Control Policy, [21:48] High Intensity Trafficking Area program, [21:48] for use by the Jackson County Drug Task for funding [21:50] of undercover duties, purchases, and vehicles, [21:54] land use Committee. [21:57] >> Report from Committee. [21:59] >> Committee recommends perfection. [22:02] >> Is there a motion to perfect? [22:06] >> So moved. [22:07] >> Second. [22:09] >> All those in favor? [22:12] [members voting] [22:13] Without objection. [22:15] >> I'll move to adopt. [22:17] >> Is there a second to >> Second. [22:21] >> Any discussion? [22:23] Madam Clerk, please call the roll. [22:27] [members voting] [22:44] 7 yes, 1 excused, 1 absent. [22:48] >> Ordinance 6111. [22:54] >> appropriating $82,500.00 from the undesignated balance [22:56] of the 2026 Grant Fund, in acceptance of a grant received [22:56] from United States Office of National Drug Control Policy, [22:56] High Intensity Trafficking Area program, [22:56] for use by the Jackson County Drug Task for funding [22:58] of undercover duties, purchases, and vehicles, [23:05] anti-crime committee. [23:08] >> Report from Committee. [23:10] >> Committee recommends perfection. [23:14] I move to perfect. [23:18] >> Second. [23:21] [members voting] [23:22] >> I will move to adopt. [23:25] >> Second. [23:26] >> It has been moved and seconded to adopt. [23:28] Ordinance 6111. [23:29] Madam clerk comment will you please call the roll? [23:34] [members voting] [23:40] 7 yes, 1 excuse, one absent. [23:54] >> Resolutions in Committee? [23:55] Resolution 22323, we have voted on. [24:02] No. [24:04] >> Directing the County Executive, [24:05] the Department of Public Works, and all appropriate County [24:05] departments and agencies to develop and implement [24:05] a comprehensive framework governing the siting, [24:05] construction, expansion, and operation of artificial [24:05] intelligence and high-capacity data center facilities within [24:05] Jackson County, Missouri, and establishing conditions [24:05] necessary to protect public infrastructure, utility systems, [24:05] environmental resources, public safety, [24:07] and neighboring communities. [24:28] legislature as a whole. [24:31] >> Will be holding this. [24:32] Resolution 22355. [24:38] >>authorizing the County Executive to execute Memorandum [24:41] of Understanding with the Kansas City, [24:41] Missouri Parks Recreation Department [24:41] related to the maintenance of the parks [24:42] within the County's Park System. [24:47] legislature as a whole. [24:49] >> Move to adopt. [24:51] >> Second. [24:51] >> It has been moved and seconded to adopt is there [24:53] a discussion? [24:56] >> This is directing the County executive to execute an MOU that [25:00] is not yet drafted. [25:02] And we don't really tell the County executive [25:05] what to do via resolution. [25:07] So I think this was just not constructed quite right. [25:12] The idea I think is to partner with the Kansas City Parks [25:14] and Rec. [25:15] It might be a delightful idea. [25:16] But in this format, I just don't think [25:19] we are calling out the right things [25:20] or authorizing the right things. [25:22] Is that a fair assessment? [25:25] >> That's correct. [25:25] Both of those issues, and we don't have the MOU. [25:28] But in theory it sounds great with the construction [25:32] of this legislation is faulty. [25:34] >> Any other discussion? [25:37] Madam clerk, please call the roll. [25:43] [members voting] [25:58] >> 7 no, 1 absent, 1 excused. [26:04] >> Resolution 22357. [26:09] >> establishing the Jackson County Housing Trust Fund [26:11] support the development, preservation, rehabilitation, [26:11] and accessibility affordable housing throughout Jackson [26:11] County, Missouri, and requesting County Administration to develop [26:14] policies governing the use of the Fund, budget Committee. [26:21] >> Committee is holding. [26:24] >> 22357 will be held. [26:27] Resolution 22364. [26:30] >>declaring certain County-owned IT equipment as property [26:32] and authorizing its disposal pursuant to Chapter 11 of County [26:35] Code, 1984, budget Committee. [26:38] >> Report from Committee? [26:40] >> Committee recommends adoption. [26:42] >> Without objection this will be added to the consent agenda. [26:45] Resolution 22365. [26:51] >> awarding a twenty-four-month term and supply with one (1) [26:53] twelve-month option to extend, for the furnishing of services [26:53] for use by various County departments to Delta Innovative [26:53] of Kansas City, KS and Blue Chip Roofing and Waterproofing [26:53] of Summit, MO under the terms and conditions of Invitation [26:56] to Bid No. [26:57] 26-037, budget Committee. [27:09] >> Is the report from the committee? [27:11] >> Committee recommends adoption. [27:14] >> Without objection. [27:16] The resolution 22365 will be added to the consent agenda. [27:23] >> Mayor Peyton? [27:25] >> Yes. [27:26] >> It might be wise to let our two new people weigh in on 22367 [27:30] just in case we need six votes. [27:49] >> 22367, do we need six votes? [27:52] >> No it is a resolution. [27:53] It only needs five votes. [27:56] >> So we've got two new ones over here now. [27:59] >> I do appreciate that. [28:00] While we don't need six votes, I do [28:01] want to give the opportunity to legislators Smith and McGee. [28:07] If you would like to vote, we had a public meeting [28:11] and voted on this earlier. [28:12] In regards to the bonds for University Health. [28:26] >> I'm sorry. [28:27] Smith? [28:28] >> Yes, I'm in favor of this. [28:30] >> And Magee? [28:31] >> Yes as well. [28:32] >> Thank you so much, legislator Franklin. [28:37] >> The new vote is seven yes, one, one excuse. [28:41] >> Thank you. [28:41] >> We are at the consent agenda. [28:44] On the consent agenda we have-- [28:49] >> 22364 and 22365. [28:52] >> Move to adopt. [28:54] >> Second. [28:55] >> It has been moved and seconded. [28:58] Madam clerk? [29:02] [members voting] [29:19] >> 8 yes, 1 excused, 1 >> Introduction of ordinances [29:26] and assignments of Committee. [29:28] >> There are none. [29:30] >> Introduction of proposed resolutions and assignments [29:33] Committee. [29:34] Resolution 22368. [29:37] >> Declaring certain county owned boats as surplus property [29:39] and authorizing their disposal pursuant to chapter 11 [29:42] of the Jackson County Code, 1984, [29:43] introduced by Charlie Franklin. [29:47] >> Assigned to Budget Committee. [29:48] Resolution 22369. [29:55] >> Awarding a six-month extension to a term and supply [29:57] contract, with two (2) twelve-month options to extend, [29:57] for the furnishing of personal computers, [29:57] miscellaneous computer hardware, software, maintenance, [29:57] and professional services for use by various County [29:57] departments to ConvergeOne of Bloomington, MN, [29:57] under the terms and conditions set forth in Cooperating School [29:57] Districts of Greater Kansas City Contract No. [29:59] CO62518, an existing government contract. [30:22] Introduced by Jaylen >> Assigned to budget Committee please. [30:28] Resolution 22370. [30:33] >> Awarding awarding a split twenty-four-month term [30:36] and contract, with one (1) twelve-month option to extend, [30:36] for the furnishing HVAC services for use by various County [30:36] departments to Services-Fagan of Kansas City, [30:36] KS and Lippert Mechanical Service Kansas City, MO, [30:38] under the terms and conditions of Invitation to Bid No. [30:42] 26-038, introduced by Jason Anderson. [30:50] >> Assigned to budget Committee. [30:52] Resolution 22371. [30:56] >> Authorizingthe Jackson County Legislature to hold closed [30:59] meeting on Monday, August 10, 2026, [30:59] for the purpose of privileged and confidential communications [30:59] between itself and the County Counselor under sections [30:59] 610.021(1) and (3) of the Statutes of Missouri and closing [31:01] all records prepared for discussion at said meeting. [31:11] introduced by Donna Peyton. [31:13] >> Move to adopt. [31:15] >> Seconded. [31:16] >> It has been moved and seconded. [31:18] Please call the roll. [31:21] [members voting] [31:34] >> 8 yes, one excused, one absent. [31:37] >> Do we have any county executive orders? [31:40] >> No, chair. [31:41] >> Any unfinished business? [31:43] Under new business, Mr. Covinsky, [31:49] will we need to vote following closed >> I don't believe so. [31:55] >> Then we will now recess, closed meeting per -- [32:03] we will go into our closed meeting for resolution 22371. [32:07] >> Would it be advisable to adjourn while we have a quorum [32:10] here so we don't have to come back after closed, [32:12] just in case we lose our online friends? [32:15] Mr. Would that be acceptable? [32:19] >> I still believe it's on the agenda, [32:20] therefore you have to adjourn after you have a closed session. [32:24] >> We have review the rules. [32:28] >> Highly encourage our remote members to help us adjourn [32:31] properly. [32:32] >> And we will certainly contact you once we get into closed [32:34] session. [32:35] >> Do they want to be on closed session? [33:10] [ambient conversation]