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Good morning everybody. It's Tuesday,

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September 1st. My name is Don Smiker.

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I'm gonna call the Jackson County Board

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of Supervisors meeting to order. To my

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left I have Mike Steinus. Good morning.

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>> To my right I have Fuego Bejorns from

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IT. Lisa from the auditors. Mike.

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>> Uh online we have Michael Miller again

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and we got Brittany from the virtual

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press box. So first up is uh visitors

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and citizens. Is there anybody online or

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in the gallery today who'd like to

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address the board?

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» Hearing none, we'll move on. First up is

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Becky Chapen with human resources.

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>> Good morning.

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>> Come on in.

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>> So, last time I was in front of the

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board, I asked you to um accept a

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resignation from one of our corrections

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officers. I had a little typo in my

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date. So I am here today to ask for a

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motion to correct the resignation from

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corrections officer Brandt Beaston from

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August 17, 2026 to August 7th, 2026.

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>> So do do we need to resend the former

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auction or motion or can we just do this

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all in one?

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>> Just make this motion.

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>> I would make a motion to do that.

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>> I would second that. We got a motion by

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Mike, second by N for a motion to

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correct the resignation date from

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corrections officer Brandt Beaston from

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August 17, 2026 to August 7th, 2026. Any

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other discussion?

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All those in favor say I. I.

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>> I. Opposed. Motion carries.

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>> And we did have a full-time um park

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ranger with our conservation department

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um resign as well. I would ask for a

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motion to accept the notice of

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resignation from park ranger Caitlyn

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Kicks effective August 21st, 2026.

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>> I would make that motion.

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>> I would second.

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>> Got a motion by n second by Mike to

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approve or accept the res notice of

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resignation from park ranger Caitlyn

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Hicks effective 21 August 2026. Any

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other discussion?

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All those in favor say I.

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>> I. Opposed. Motion carries

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>> and the conservation board is accepting

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applications for a certified officer

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through September 13th. So if that's of

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any interest to anybody,

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>> that information [clears throat] is out

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there. Um next, um back in 2018, we

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implemented a master policy manual um as

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required under HIPPO regulations. There

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have been several individual policy

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revisions as we've went through updating

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language, confidentiality, um those kind

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of things throughout the years. For the

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advice of our consultant, Croach, we

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felt it was appropriate time to adopt a

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new manual just in its entirety.

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So today I would ask for a motion to

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approve the 2018 Jackson County Master

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Manual of HIPPA policies and procedures

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effective September 1st, 2026 as

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amended. So moved.

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>> I would second that.

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>> Got a motion by Mike, second by N to

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approve the 2018 Jackson County Master

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Manual of HIPPA policies and procedures

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effective September 1st, 2026 as

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amended. Any other discussion?

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All those in favor say I. I.

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>> Opposed? Motion carries.

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>> Anything else going on?

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>> No.

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>> All right. [clears throat] We appreciate

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your time.

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» Next up, we have Jaden Shekele from the

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county engineers office. Good morning,

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sir.

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>> Good morning.

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>> First thing on our agenda is an entrance

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permit for Phil Deninger. It's a

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residential entrance on 19th 4th Avenue,

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uh, section one of Otter Creek Township.

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Uh, check site distance. That's all

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there on the call where it is required

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and is noted on the permits. So, uh, our

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department recommends approval.

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>> I would make that motion.

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>> I have a second.

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>> We got a motion by N, second by Mike to

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approve a residential permit for Phil

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Dener on Outer Creek in Outer Creek

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Township section one on 194th Avenue.

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Any other discussion?

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All those in favor say I. I.

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>> I. Oppos. Motion carries.

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Um and next is discussion on potential

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joint county purchase on a soil

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stabilizer. Um so machine if you recall

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it's probably been a couple years ago up

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on 243rd

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Avenue up by the debut county line um

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where our department rented a soil

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stabilizing machine that injected base

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one. It milled up the existing pavement,

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mixed milled to a sufficient depth that

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got through the pavement and existing

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rock, mixed it, made it one homogeneous

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material, injected base one to stabilize

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it, and then reput an asphalt surface on

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top. Um, it's that same machine. Um,

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there's sounds like there's a potential

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for eight counties should step back.

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That machine at that time was just

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rented. Um, other counties were renting

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it. It was a machine from Oklahoma. um

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and just rented it at a I think it used

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it for a week and a half. Um

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other counties that rented it at that

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time, they continually rent it year

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after year after year. So there was

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enough discussion that they look are

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looking at joint purchasing one where

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the counties collectively would own it.

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Um so right now it's about eight

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counties that would including we would

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be included in that eight pending

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today's discussion I should say um to

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jointly purchase a 2019 Wiler soil

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stabilizer so we can have reliable

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access for its use because I would have

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I do have other roads in mind that could

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do this same application. Um,

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and rather than there it's not just one

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road, there's multiple. And with that,

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uh to have a contractor mill one mile of

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road is approximately around $90,000.

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would cost us as Jackson County about

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$24,000. Well, obviously that's

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significantly less than 90,000. Um, our

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crews would be doing that work. And then

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also we would have it for future use. So

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instead instead of spending 90,000 for a

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one to have a contractor perform a

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one-time service on one road 24 would be

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for our use yearly. Um

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>> Where's it going to be stored if eight

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counties are owning it?

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>> So right now it's planned that Debuke

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owning it or be the it'd be insured

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under Clinton County. So it' be stored

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in Clinton County for majority of time

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>> Did I?

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>> Sorry, Clinton.

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>> So, I had the opportunity to

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>> Were we we used it up by the debut

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county line or did I say

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>> I just with eight counties going for it.

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when we have access to it or is there

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going to be certain timelines or how

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does it work?

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>> Yep. It'd be we'd have to coordinate

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with them just like um out of those

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eight counties. I think six of those

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counties also collectively own a

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shouldering machine. So it' be set up to

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the same use that that is where they

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coordinate with all the counties as far

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as uh who's getting it for how long and

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basically schedule the work accordingly.

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the maintenance schedule on it. So, I

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mean, obviously, if we're going to do a

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mile, you either set this up by the hour

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agreement to say, I use it for an hour

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or I use it for 50 yards or 100 yards or

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whatever it may be. I mean, I'm sure

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there's different applications to where

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it sounds a little tougher. So, this

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kind of machine to me takes a fair

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amount of maintenance.

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>> Yeah. And as far as like repairs, I

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don't have the details on that yet

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because the counties are still working

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on a 28 agreement for it. But as far as

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the purchase, they would split

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>> the total cost evenly amongst each

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county for the purchase of it. And yes,

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to answer the question for maintenance,

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and wherever, say you I don't know what

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other counties are going in it. St.

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Jones County is doing 20 miles a year.

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typically do about a mile or two at most

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a year. Um, just because it takes I mean

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their crews got just like all the

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departments or every county road

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department, they have other tasks and

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stuff. Okay.

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>> So, when eight counties you I think they

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did the math assuming

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basically it amounts each county would

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be able to use about two weeks out of

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the year which would be about the right

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amounts cuz they don't want to have any

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other count. The talk was it was

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originally seven. There was one more

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that made it eight but then there was

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discussion we should probably end it

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there because then how to facilitate any

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more use for it wouldn't all lot enough

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time for the summer time of the year for

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its use.

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>> you our guys can do this they have the

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knowledge or there's is there going to

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need to be training involved or

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>> um they'd be able to do it probably be a

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learning curve just like because it was

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our crews that did it up on 243rd Avenue

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um a couple years ago but yeah that's

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been a couple years ago so it' be a

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rejogging

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>> so we go through and do it then we have

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somebody come back through and and put

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overlay on top

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>> correct yeah so my plan for this is to

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be used in applications where we have

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some local veiling pavements

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>> pavements or black top?

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>> Uh well, black top asphalt pavements.

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>> Like for example, like green

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>> won't chew up to concrete. Correct.

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>> No, I probably would not want to. No,

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that would take a toll on the teeth.

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>> Yeah. No, that's what

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>> So it' be limited to asphalt pavements,

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which that's what was up at 240 32 years

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>> I was up there and watched that process

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for one day or part of a day.

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Um cuz like for example like Green like

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Green Allen Road especially as you go

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through the actual unincorporated town

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of Green like that is just falling apart

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and that would be one stretch that I

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would have in my mind would be a perfect

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application for this all the way from 52

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going to the end of pavement uh by the

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railroad tracks which is about a mile.

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>> Okay.

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>> Well, we can save 70,000 on one

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application. This makes sense. Listen,

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this is one of those things like you

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look at our our grinder and stuff, you

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know, the the trackco with the the the

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mulching head and things like that. You

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can rent we we were contracting all that

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stuff. Then you buy one and all of a

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sudden we're using it. We're saving a

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lot of money because we're doing what we

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want. Is there a larger application?

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What I don't want to do is we go in for

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25,000 which is cheap and then it works

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really good. We get good at it. All of a

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sudden, we're wishing we had our own

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because we can use it here and here and here and all that kind

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of stuff to the point where what happens

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when okay, Todd's Todd's going to own

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this over in Clinton County when he's

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gone. How do we we going to be able to

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get our money out of it someday or is it

301
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just going to disappear and we just let

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it off as rent or so?

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>> Are you going to want your own someday?

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>> I don't know about that because it's

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probably I mean the machine itself is

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like 193,000. This is a used machine

307
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too, you know, it's not brand new. So,

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um I don't think there'd be enough use

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of that each year to cuz not only do you

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have the cost of that, but then I mean

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it costs money to resurface or to put

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the actual asphalt surface over top,

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too. So, I I don't think it ever makes

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sense for a machine like this to for a

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county to sold.

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>> Okay.

317
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>> I I would see it's minimal use in

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certain areas. Like you say, there's a

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couple roads that are completely falling

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apart. Most of our major ones are longer

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than that. I would say get attention

322
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before that.

323
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>> Yeah. Yeah, because you know even like

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395th, you know, that's a mile again

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there, too. If you weren't changing the

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whole road, I would think that would be

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a possibility.

328
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>> Yeah. And and that one, you know, for

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the extent of that roadway project,

330
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since that's an FM road, that uses FM

331
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funds. I think Green Island is Green

332
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Island Road is as well. But where to fit

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that in if we can do some minimal work

334
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like this to where we don't have to have

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full contract contractor come in and

336
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fully reconstruct the thing. Well, and

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not only that, you're taking your guys

338
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to do this. So, that's going to take

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them away from our other projects we're

340
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trying to get done and they don't, you

341
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know, they're doing a lot of stuff right

342
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now that maybe some things are

343
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getting shifted and not and we would not

344
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use it this year anymore. I mean, we

345
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wouldn't I don't foresee us using it at

346
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best next year because we'd have to plan

347
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this stuff out. And I guess I would like

348
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to believe by time that this would fully

349
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come to fruition and use for everybody

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that we would at least have our first

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cycle of reclaim done because for the

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most part the crews have been really

353
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good about maintaining that crown. So I

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it's my hope that when we get to the

355
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second cycle that it's not as labor

356
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intensive for our heart like it maybe

357
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some of them don't even need the

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retriever. Maybe it's just taking their

359
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mold board in the early parts of the

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year just bringing that material in

361
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because they've been really good. We've

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been stressing them that there's reasons

363
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for maintaining the crown, but um

364
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ultimately if it's not if the reclaim

365
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isn't as labor intensive, that should

366
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free up some guys to do stuff like this.

367
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Um I'll probably sign the guys up for a

368
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lot of stuff. But

369
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>> I had the opportunity to talk to some of

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your counterpart engineers out at last

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week and uh they were kind of filling me

372
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in about this machine and stuff and I

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thought, well, you know, sounds like a

374
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good deal. when when the information you

375
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sent us, it showed the machine and maybe

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a tow machine. Does that tow machine

377
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come with it or is this something we

378
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have to pull with one of

379
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>> that picture was a water truck and um we

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rented that with that machine that time

381
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from Washington County and Clinton

382
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County own water trucks because they

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apply brine on their Yeah. So they have

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the water tanks on the back of their

385
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dump trucks. We rented that and that's

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what the other counties do. They rent

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those two trucks, one from Clinton

388
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County, one from Washington for their

389
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week use rather than having a whole dump

390
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truck set up for each each county does

391
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not have their own dump truck set up

392
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with the water.

393
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>> So I assume this is a self propel

394
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machine. Yep.

395
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>> And is it hauled on our low boy or do we

396
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are able to haul it on our

397
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>> because that's how we um brought it up

398
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here. The time we used it two years ago

399
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we went to I think it was Marian County

400
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got it and brought it up here. Um, so I

401
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guess the counties that are interested

402
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in using it, I should have mentioned are

403
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Washington obviously Clinton County,

404
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Washington County, uh, Mahaska and

405
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Kikak, Marian, Henry, and Lee counties

406
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and us.

407
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>> That's a pretty good spread of counties.

408
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>> Yeah, it's all kind of this eastern

409
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southeast part of the county. And that's

410
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where most of these counties have that

411
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shouldering machine set up or a lot of

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these counties except for I don't know

413
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which one us and one other do not have

414
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or share that shouldering machine. So

415
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>> we can get in on that too yet.

416
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» No, I don't see any issues there other

417
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than like I said obviously this is a

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machine does some rough work if you

419
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will. So 10 years I mean so it's

420
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obviously there's going to be

421
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maintenance to it and I think that

422
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should be allocated either hourly or

423
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number of feet or whatever it may be you

424
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know we don't use it for one year for

425
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something and somebody [clears throat]

426
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else uses it seven counties use it well

427
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>> our maintenance cost should be minimal.

428
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>> Yeah.

429
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And I guess I [clears throat]

430
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should mention that this today is not to

431
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like

432
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>> this is not 2080 agreement. says

433
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basically uh just yeah permission to

434
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pursue this and

435
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>> till a 28 agreement can be worked out.

436
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>> I think it's a good deal. I would make

437
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that motion to go ahead and pursue them.

438
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>> Um is it to pursue the purchase or to

439
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pursue moving forward?

440
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>> Pursue moving forward and because

441
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>> joint joint purchase.

442
00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:30,639
>> Yes. Yep.

443
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You're going to be entering into an

444
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intergovernmental agreement for the

445
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joint p purchase.

446
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>> Yes.

447
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>> I'm what I'm thinking I guess what I'm

448
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thinking is um is to approve entering

449
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into an intergovernmental agreement for

450
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a joint purchase and ownership with

451
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eight counties including Jackson County

452
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for 2019 soil stabilizer with the

453
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approximate cost to each county of

454
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24,000.

455
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>> Yes. Because the 2080 will be pending

456
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our full signing of a 280 will be later

457
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and then pending final recommendations

458
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to enter into this agreement. Y to

459
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proceed.

460
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>> Is that your motion?

461
00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,759
>> Yes, that's what I said.

462
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>> I would second that motion.

463
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>> You want to repeat that? Uh, I think the

464
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motion is to approve entering into an

465
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intergovernmental agreement for a joint

466
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purchase and ownership with eight

467
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counties including Jackson County for a

468
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2019 Wiler soil stabilizer with the

469
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approximate cost to each county of

470
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$24,000.

471
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>> Any other discussion?

472
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>> I have a question. So, this is coming

473
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out of current year budget, correct?

474
00:16:33,839 --> 00:16:35,759
>> Potentially or next year's. I don't know

475
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cuz I don't have everything sorted out

476
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but it' be either this year's or next

477
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year's which either case it would be

478
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covered.

479
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>> Okay.

480
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>> Any other discussion?

481
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All those in favor say I.

482
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>> I opposed. Motion carried.

483
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[clears throat]

484
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>> Uh quick update on construction

485
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projects. Bernard Road. We're nearing

486
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the end. Bernard Road over. We're

487
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nearing the end of that. Um, just

488
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working on some final things to the

489
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contractor as far as sealing the center

490
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line cracks. Uh, they got to have their

491
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smoothness test done on it to know if

492
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there's any grind areas or panels of

493
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replacement. There's maybe one spot that

494
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does, but we're work through the final

495
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steps of that. So, we're nearing the

496
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end. Um,

497
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Chennorth Bridge, they are planning to

498
00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:23,839
tentatively right now to pour the deck

499
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either Thursday or Friday of next week.

500
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So

501
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it'll be for as long as that bridge is,

502
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they're going to plan to do it as one

503
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floor. So it'll probably be two hump

504
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trucks on each end of the bridge. And um

505
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>> so one more did you say? Mhm.

506
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[clears throat] Is that 300 ft? Yeah.

507
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The weird part is it's not or shouldn't

508
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say weird but uh

509
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so our Z-15 bridge um has just a little

510
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more concrete on its deck than what the

511
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channel earth does simply do that

512
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because the channel bridge is a beam

513
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bridge. So the beams are act as you know

514
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a super structure itself. So it's just

515
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an 8 inch deck on it. Our Z-15 bridge

516
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has no beams because it's considered a

517
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slat bridge. So, it's a lot thicker deck

518
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cuz the deck is also acting as the super

519
00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,640
structure. So, I think the deck on the

520
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Z15 rig is close to 2 ft thick. So, and

521
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that was 110 ft long. So, um it is

522
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table, but they're going to have to have

523
00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,679
it would be allowed if they wanted to do

524
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it two different pores, but I mean they

525
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have the crews there and equipment. It

526
00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:28,880
seems they're going to try to do it as

527
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one pour, but I most likely would mean

528
00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,200
pump trucks on each side of the bridge

529
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unless they get a pump truck to where

530
00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,080
they hold the beams and where they had a

531
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crane set towards the river. um set the

532
00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,520
pump truck down there where where it can

533
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reach essentially both from end end of

534
00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,600
the bridge. But yes, we're planning a

535
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one pour uh either Thursday or Friday of

536
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next week.

537
00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:46,960
>> Wow.

538
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>> So, um it'll be exciting to see that get

539
00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:51,360
open back up.

540
00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:54,400
>> Yes. Um

541
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our last bridge of the year to be built

542
00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,640
will be the one on 17th Street over uh

543
00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,760
east of Miles. Um our contractor is

544
00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,679
currently slated to come in around the

545
00:19:03,679 --> 00:19:05,600
end of September to start that one. So

546
00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,360
well actually by the week of the 21st

547
00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:09,840
tentatively right now. So only a few

548
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,000
weeks away from beginning that one and

549
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,520
that'll be our last bridge for this

550
00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,039
construction season.

551
00:19:15,039 --> 00:19:16,080
>> Any idea [clears throat] when you might

552
00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,760
hear back from the federal government on

553
00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,160
those two bridges that joint application

554
00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,480
>> hopefully sometime the plan or in the

555
00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:23,840
notice of funding agreement it was

556
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,160
stated that uh in by the end of

557
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,400
September is when they were expected to

558
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,760
have an announcement on our

559
00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,600
determination. So I'm very hopeful

560
00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,400
sometime this month unless they delay

561
00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,640
things but in their no foss by the end

562
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,480
of this month we would have a

563
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,160
determination whether or not on the

564
00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,840
awards or who was award and who wasn't.

565
00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,000
So uh fingers crossed

566
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,440
>> because that'll really get things uh

567
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,720
clicking.

568
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:47,840
>> I just don't want everybody get all

569
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,520
wound up here even if the deck is poured

570
00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,679
on China to understand we got guard rail

571
00:19:51,679 --> 00:19:52,880
and approaches and all that kind of

572
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,160
stuff. It's got to be open in

573
00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,840
>> it's not open in two weeks.

574
00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,600
>> Yeah. There's the all the barrier rail

575
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,120
on each side of the bridge with it being

576
00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:03,200
300 foot long. It's 300 some feet on one

577
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,400
side. So, they got to pour all the

578
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,160
barrier rail on each side of the bridge.

579
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,320
Um there is guard rail on that bridge

580
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,400
also. As you come off on the approach,

581
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,880
gravel approaches, there's guardrail. Um

582
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,960
there's final earth work and rip wrap to

583
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,200
be placed yet. Um and then all the

584
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,120
restoration work. So, and then rocking

585
00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:20,799
of the gravel road of 82nd on both

586
00:20:20,799 --> 00:20:23,360
sides. So yes, there is fair amount of

587
00:20:23,360 --> 00:20:25,280
work, but I'd like to believe the bulk

588
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,120
of it will be taken care of after this

589
00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:29,120
deck pour. But yes, there are some

590
00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:31,120
remaining steps yet before that project

591
00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:31,840
will be open.

592
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,559
>> What's the estimated completion date?

593
00:20:34,559 --> 00:20:37,200
>> Uh I would as it sits right now, the way

594
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,559
things are moving, I would like to

595
00:20:38,559 --> 00:20:40,559
believe by the end of October things

596
00:20:40,559 --> 00:20:43,440
should be open for that because they're

597
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:44,799
out of the river now. So with river

598
00:20:44,799 --> 00:20:46,640
rises and whatnot shouldn't play that

599
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,400
much of a factor anymore. But if it

600
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,840
rains, obviously it delays things with

601
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,640
earth moving yet. But shaping, but kind

602
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,559
of where I would estimate is end of

603
00:20:54,559 --> 00:20:55,679
October.

604
00:20:55,679 --> 00:20:56,320
>> Cool.

605
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,799
>> Question was street bridge going to be

606
00:20:58,799 --> 00:21:01,039
closed and I know that the heavily

607
00:21:01,039 --> 00:21:03,200
travel road

608
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,600
for kids and stuff like that.

609
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,400
>> Do are we putting up any signs like say

610
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,600
now that

611
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,720
>> this road will be closed?

612
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,240
>> We haven't. Um, what I can do is I can

613
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,880
put our on our road notification tool

614
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,559
that we send out that includes all the

615
00:21:20,559 --> 00:21:22,960
schools. Um, and I can include uh city

616
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,440
of miles on that. That includes all you

617
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,120
three as well when we do that. But I can

618
00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:30,400
send that out now to at least give them

619
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,120
advanced warning assuming that the word

620
00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:36,559
would spread thereafter

621
00:21:36,559 --> 00:21:39,520
or I can put it on our county's uh our

622
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,320
department's uh Facebook page as well.

623
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,119
for any of those that are subscribed or

624
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,360
[clears throat] maybe it'll get shared.

625
00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:46,640
I don't know how the Facebook world

626
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,080
works, but I can put it on there

627
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,390
nonetheless, too.

628
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,559
» Okay. Any other questions for Jane?

629
00:21:54,559 --> 00:21:55,679
>> Appreciate it.

630
00:21:55,679 --> 00:21:56,640
>> Thank you very much, sir.

631
00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,240
>> Yep. Have a good day. You as well.

632
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,240
>> All right. Next up, we have Elizabeth

633
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,919
Townsen, Environmental Health and

634
00:22:03,919 --> 00:22:06,159
Rebecca Fuat from zoning to come up and

635
00:22:06,159 --> 00:22:09,600
talk to us about Govwell Technologies.

636
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,110
>> Good morning.

637
00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:22,149
Jaden's going to stay for that.

638
00:22:22,159 --> 00:22:23,440
» Back down.

639
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,039
>> Yeah,

640
00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:27,760
>> next time everyone.

641
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:32,950
>> Good morning.

642
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,520
» Who's up? I'm all talking at once.

643
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,240
>> Okay, so

644
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,280
start. Okay. So, it's um been several

645
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,600
months. We've been looking um at moving

646
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,720
away from our geo permitting system. Um

647
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,200
we met with them earlier this spring to

648
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,039
kind of talk about the issues that we

649
00:22:51,039 --> 00:22:53,600
were having. Um

650
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,919
and nothing was really done since then.

651
00:22:55,919 --> 00:22:57,840
Um I mean, they did go in and kind of

652
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,240
try to rework some of our applications,

653
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,640
but we're still just not seeing some of

654
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,240
the things that they had promised us

655
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,480
previously, like some upgrades and

656
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,320
things like that.

657
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:09,840
um even with the rework on the

658
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,840
applications that they've done, we don't

659
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,280
we still don't see an improvement. Um

660
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,960
and they were supposed to follow up with

661
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,440
us at one point but shortly after our

662
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,120
meeting within like a week or two and

663
00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:23,200
that never happened.

664
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,200
So anyway, um we're just kind of getting

665
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,840
to that point where it's just not

666
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,679
working for us. It's not working for us.

667
00:23:29,679 --> 00:23:31,440
It's not working for the residents.

668
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:32,880
We're still getting complaints from the

669
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,960
residents of the county um on the

670
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,440
application processes. So, nothing

671
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,840
against GIO, it's just not working for

672
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,960
us. Um, Govwell is a company that we've

673
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,559
been talking to for over a year now. Um,

674
00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:50,000
they are a company that was actually

675
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,960
created by um, a county employee and

676
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,720
their um, and son who's a contractor.

677
00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,799
Um, it's a very userfriendly program um,

678
00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:03,280
unlike our geo permitting system. So, it

679
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,360
allows for paper applications,

680
00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:07,600
electronic application. It can all kind

681
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,000
of go into one. It's got some really

682
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,039
good AI tools that are useful not only

683
00:24:13,039 --> 00:24:15,279
for the residents doing applications,

684
00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:18,000
but also for our offices being one

685
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,960
person departments. Um, so people can go

686
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,200
on and do like a presubmitt of their

687
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,760
application and use their tool to see if

688
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,279
what they're submitting is actually

689
00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:30,320
going to be approved. Um, so it's just

690
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,240
got a lot of really great things. And

691
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,640
Becca, I don't know if you want to say

692
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,720
anything more than that.

693
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,480
>> Um, one of the features that I really

694
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,440
like about it is you can go in and see

695
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,919
what has what permits have been taken

696
00:24:43,919 --> 00:24:46,880
out on your property. Even after you've

697
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,880
bought the property, you can see what

698
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,200
has been done. So, it's the tracking

699
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,720
features are really nice.

700
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,799
>> Yeah. So, there's a lot of flagging and

701
00:24:54,799 --> 00:24:58,400
tracking features. Um like currently we

702
00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,919
have an issue where people are going in

703
00:24:59,919 --> 00:25:01,840
and for one application they might have

704
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,159
like seven or eight applications going

705
00:25:04,159 --> 00:25:05,919
because they go they can't find their

706
00:25:05,919 --> 00:25:08,400
application that they started. Um it's

707
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,080
just difficult for them to submit

708
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,120
documents. Um it's difficult for us to

709
00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:15,679
help somebody that maybe doesn't have

710
00:25:15,679 --> 00:25:17,919
you know email or internet. It's

711
00:25:17,919 --> 00:25:19,360
difficult for us to put that all in

712
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:20,480
there. So this is just going to be

713
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,880
better for everybody I think all around.

714
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,880
Um, so the gov well it would cover my it

715
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,960
could cover any department potentially.

716
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,279
Um, but currently it would just be my

717
00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:33,120
office, environmental health, Becca's

718
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:34,640
office zoning and then our county

719
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,039
engineers department.

720
00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:40,159
Um, they are talking about three months

721
00:25:40,159 --> 00:25:42,320
per application to build out. So we

722
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,159
would be looking at sometime in March or

723
00:25:44,159 --> 00:25:46,320
April to be able to roll the

724
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,640
applications out. Um, they said we could

725
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,799
roll them out individually, but we

726
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:52,720
decided that it's best to do them all at

727
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,720
once instead of having two different

728
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,400
types of companies out there with

729
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,400
applications on the web. Be too

730
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,919
confusing for people. Um, our contract

731
00:26:01,919 --> 00:26:04,960
with GEO goes until July of next year.

732
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,880
We have not talked to them yet about

733
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,080
what we're planning on doing, but

734
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,480
um, we did talk to the county, excuse

735
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,480
me, county attorney's office to see, you

736
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,159
know, about ending contracts and things

737
00:26:16,159 --> 00:26:18,320
like that. Um, so we do have some

738
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,880
options, but I would say personally that

739
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,320
I think we should just leave our

740
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,480
contract with GIO because we don't know

741
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,320
for sure when these applications will be

742
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,720
completed. So I don't feel comfortable

743
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,880
at this point setting a date saying that

744
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,159
yes, we'll end go on, you know, April

745
00:26:34,159 --> 00:26:36,480
1st because we don't know for sure that

746
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,640
our applications with Gov Well will be

747
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,120
completed yet.

748
00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:44,080
Um, price-wise, it's very similar in

749
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,880
price. um we get locked in for two years

750
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,799
if we sign this contract, so there will

751
00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:51,440
be no increase. Um I do know that GIO

752
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,600
has been doing an annual increase. Um

753
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,720
and we're just not seeing any changes in

754
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,600
the product. So I'm not sure why they're giving that increase to us, but

755
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,360
um so we'd be locked in and then see

756
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:08,640
>> Can you say similar? How how similar are

757
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,279
we? Can you give me a number? Um, so I

758
00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:15,360
believe the geo was 24,000

759
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:16,400
>> a year.

760
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,080
>> Yes.

761
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,279
>> And I think I seen your email that said

762
00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:23,120
this was 47.

763
00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:25,840
>> So that's just year. Yeah.

764
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,600
>> So yeah. So that's just the first year.

765
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,840
Ends up being around 29

766
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,360
>> 29 per year. 46 includes the build.

767
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:34,320
>> Yeah.

768
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,080
>> 17,000 in build out per.

769
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,559
>> So ends up being about $6,000 more. Five

770
00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:41,200
or six thousand more. um per year. And

771
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,430
that's a two-year contract.

772
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,279
» So, I do know that like some of the

773
00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:50,240
other um county offices did build

774
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,720
applications within GIO, but they're not

775
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,399
using them because they're not user

776
00:27:54,399 --> 00:27:56,960
friendly. So, like I know our assessor's

777
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,440
office built applications, spent that

778
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,840
time not using it.

779
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,120
>> So, is there any Iowa counties or local

780
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:06,880
counties or anybody that's using this

781
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,399
that we could refer to?

782
00:28:08,399 --> 00:28:11,600
>> There are not. Um, and to me that

783
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,720
doesn't matter because I

784
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,720
>> there are counties. They're not Iowa

785
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:15,279
counties.

786
00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:16,880
>> We would be the first one. We would be

787
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,520
the first ones. Um, which is fine by me

788
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,760
because I just think that we we're a

789
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,200
little more progressive in Jackson

790
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,960
County and we're doing things that

791
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,200
nobody else in the state of Iowa and

792
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,039
even across the country are doing right

793
00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:33,840
now, which is to me like amazing. Um, so

794
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,399
that makes me feel okay doing this. But

795
00:28:36,399 --> 00:28:38,480
yeah, there's um some another company in

796
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,399
or sorry, another county in Indiana that

797
00:28:40,399 --> 00:28:43,279
did switch from geopermitting to Govwell

798
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:44,799
and they're very happy with that and I'm

799
00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:46,720
happy to send you guys the contact

800
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:47,600
information for that.

801
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:48,720
>> That would be great.

802
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,440
>> Okay.

803
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,440
>> Um I I guess you know a couple things. I

804
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,679
know you mentioned AI applications

805
00:28:53,679 --> 00:28:54,880
within their program.

806
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,880
>> Yes. We were warned to be very careful

807
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,760
with AI applications like there's only

808
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,120
two sites that are recommended by

809
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,559
government authority to

810
00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:07,679
>> so this is AI that will just assist with

811
00:29:07,679 --> 00:29:09,520
so if they have a question on what

812
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,600
applications they're going to need how

813
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,600
to fill out those applications that AI

814
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,279
tool is going to assist them.

815
00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:15,919
>> Yeah.

816
00:29:15,919 --> 00:29:19,120
>> Um so it's a 247 tool that they can use.

817
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,559
Um, but the other thing it's going to do

818
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:22,399
is it's going to pull all of our

819
00:29:22,399 --> 00:29:25,600
ordinances and it's going to have a tool

820
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,240
that's going to help them figure out if

821
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,000
the information they're submitting to

822
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,080
the county prior to paying for the

823
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,919
application is something that would be

824
00:29:33,919 --> 00:29:35,360
approved. So, it's going to say, "Oh,

825
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,440
wait. You submit you're planning on

826
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,120
submitting this, but it's not going to

827
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,120
meet the setback." So, it's going to

828
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,799
just be a tool for people to use because

829
00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:44,159
like right now one of the biggest things

830
00:29:44,159 --> 00:29:46,159
that we're running across is we have a

831
00:29:46,159 --> 00:29:48,159
huge amount of people coming into our

832
00:29:48,159 --> 00:29:50,880
offices multiple times like one

833
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,679
individual multiple times saying will

834
00:29:53,679 --> 00:29:56,000
you approve this will you approve that

835
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,279
and the reason they're doing that

836
00:29:57,279 --> 00:29:59,440
because they don't want to pay for the

837
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,200
application without knowing if it's

838
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,880
something we're going to approve but

839
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,600
it's extremely time consuming for us. I

840
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,279
think maybe the zoning office gets the

841
00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:10,480
brunt of it, but um this is a great tool

842
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,640
because they can use that instead of

843
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,120
coming into Becca's office, you know,

844
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,279
eight, nine, 10 times within a year

845
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:19,679
before submitting an application. So,

846
00:30:19,679 --> 00:30:22,000
it's just going to save us a lot of time

847
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,760
and money in the long run.

848
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,200
>> Well, I would agree. And, you know,

849
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,960
somehow I'm going to go back to Beorn

850
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,799
maybe, you know, with some of this AI

851
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:30,880
stuff that uh it's just you have to be

852
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,039
really careful about information that

853
00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:34,320
you're putting in there.

854
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,840
>> Yeah. So, like I said, it just it's

855
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,919
pulling from our ordinances. So, it's

856
00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:39,840
just taking that information and then

857
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,600
giving it back to them.

858
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,159
>> Um, and then, you know, again, just

859
00:30:44,159 --> 00:30:45,520
assisting with, you know, what

860
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,799
applications they're going to need. So,

861
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:48,559
if somebody wants to build, you know,

862
00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:51,039
they're I want to they put into the AI,

863
00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:52,320
I'm building a new house, what

864
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,559
applications do I need? It's going to

865
00:30:54,559 --> 00:30:56,320
tell them right away like these are the

866
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:57,440
things you're going to want to apply

867
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,919
for. So, it's more just like a help AI

868
00:30:59,919 --> 00:31:03,440
tool more than anything.

869
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,520
>> Yeah. I I can see that. I think it would

870
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,771
have to be somewhat regulated

871
00:31:06,771 --> 00:31:07,360
[clears throat]

872
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,760
to be safe and we can look

873
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,760
>> as far as

874
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,840
budget. I mean, when you plan on

875
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,399
implementing such a thing if some if we

876
00:31:16,399 --> 00:31:17,840
do decide to

877
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,200
>> So, it would come out of this year's

878
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,120
budget. So, we would pay now

879
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,760
>> 2727.

880
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,840
>> Yeah. that we would do an amendment um

881
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,919
later on, but we did talk with um the

882
00:31:27,919 --> 00:31:30,080
auditor's office and they talked about,

883
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,440
you know, pulling out a two years

884
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,000
budget, but we decided it was cleaner

885
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,840
just to do it out of the one.

886
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,870
>> Okay.

887
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:41,279
» Um

888
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:42,720
>> I mean, the only thing that makes me

889
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,720
nervous, and I said this when we had our

890
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,440
meeting before, you know, there's how

891
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,240
many other counties using the geo

892
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,039
permitting and it's working? one, why

893
00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:56,240
isn't it working for our county?

894
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,120
And yeah, why are we having

895
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,000
>> Because you got two really smart uh

896
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,067
administrators here that are probably

897
00:32:05,067 --> 00:32:06,880
[clears throat] more techsavvy than a

898
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,720
lot of other administrators across the

899
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,880
state of Iowa. And so we have a higher

900
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,960
equity title in there, Elizabeth,

901
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,279
because I don't know all the other

902
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:17,600
administrators. So I'm not dissing

903
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,919
anybody that way. All I got to say,

904
00:32:19,919 --> 00:32:22,799
>> it makes me very nervous this being

905
00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:25,279
>> the only one in Iowa.

906
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:27,440
>> I mean, I and I realize somebody's

907
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,679
always got to be the first person,

908
00:32:29,679 --> 00:32:31,200
>> but

909
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,039
you know, and

910
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:35,600
>> and if I'm not mistaken,

911
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,519
>> you were part of the big push for the

912
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:39,600
geo permitting that that was better than

913
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,519
sliced bread. Now we're coming in that

914
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:43,039
this is going to be better than

915
00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:45,039
>> So just to clarify, I knew that we

916
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:46,640
needed something, but it was actually

917
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,559
our previous zoning administrator that

918
00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:51,279
was the one that pushed for go. So want

919
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:53,519
to be clear on that. Um we did not sit

920
00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:55,760
down at that point and look at any other

921
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,840
options. She felt confident in the

922
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,240
product and I did stand behind her on

923
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,159
that cuz I do know that we needed

924
00:33:02,159 --> 00:33:04,240
something.

925
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,720
Um, but yeah, I mean to answer your

926
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,559
question, I don't know why it has not

927
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:11,519
been working for us, but we did sit back

928
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:14,399
and try to be very hard working with Gio

929
00:33:14,399 --> 00:33:16,320
to make it work. I mean, otherwise when

930
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,679
we had had that meeting with them back

931
00:33:17,679 --> 00:33:19,679
in the spring, you know, we would have

932
00:33:19,679 --> 00:33:20,960
just said, "No, we're not going to do

933
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,039
it." But I I don't know if Bujorn can

934
00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:25,440
testify to the fact that like I have

935
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,360
worked really hard with them on our

936
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,919
applications trying to just, you know,

937
00:33:29,919 --> 00:33:31,760
boost them up and make them better. He's

938
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,159
been copied on every single email. So, I

939
00:33:34,159 --> 00:33:36,480
mean, there has been that we're not we

940
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,159
haven't just sat back and just done

941
00:33:38,159 --> 00:33:39,519
nothing and said, "Oh, it's not

942
00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:41,519
working." Like, we've really tried to

943
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:42,240
do.

944
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,000
>> The only thing I have left is the fact

945
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,960
that um all things are changing. Let's

946
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,640
not get that.

947
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,399
>> Couple years ago, we went geo

948
00:33:50,399 --> 00:33:51,919
permitting, trying to get things on the

949
00:33:51,919 --> 00:33:53,679
line, being user friendly, people that

950
00:33:53,679 --> 00:33:56,080
didn't always have to come in. Seemed

951
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,799
like it's not working.

952
00:33:58,799 --> 00:34:01,200
County engineers not using it. Zoning's

953
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,399
have a problem. You guys have problem.

954
00:34:02,399 --> 00:34:06,720
We tried working. That's fine. This

955
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,000
I don't want to go through this every

956
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:08,720
two years.

957
00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:09,839
>> Mhm.

958
00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:12,399
>> You know, as much as change is

959
00:34:12,399 --> 00:34:14,560
inevitable, change is frustrating,

960
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,960
especially for our demographic of people

961
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,280
in the county. And so, we can't

962
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,159
continually keep changing over. So, we

963
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:23,440
need to make sure this is the right

964
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,960
answer.

965
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,560
And if you guys are saying it's the

966
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,159
right answer, we need to go with it and

967
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:30,159
stick with it for a while because two

968
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:33,040
years is very hard to kind of grasp

969
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,879
software especially when most of your

970
00:34:34,879 --> 00:34:37,839
users look at it once every decade.

971
00:34:37,839 --> 00:34:38,480
>> Yeah.

972
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,359
>> So

973
00:34:39,359 --> 00:34:42,720
>> would you see it's it's affect us too.

974
00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:45,040
>> That's my big concern is okay if we if

975
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,720
we I I personally don't care what

976
00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:49,200
software you use. I'm not an expert on

977
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,560
knowing what it does or what's wrong

978
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,800
with geo geo permitting and what's so

979
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,440
great about this or vice versa. I leave

980
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,200
it to you guys because you're that that

981
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,640
this your full-time job. But I know we

982
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,640
don't want to

983
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,800
keep changing all the time and I don't

984
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,119
want to pay any more we have to. So

985
00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:09,040
correct.

986
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,160
>> Couple things I will say this in being

987
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,760
out in De Moines and listening to all

988
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,079
the conferences and other uh question

989
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:19,359
and answer and hot topic stuff. Jackson

990
00:35:19,359 --> 00:35:21,440
County is ahead of the ball game in a

991
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,440
lot of areas and that's just not you

992
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:24,480
guys by the way.

993
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:24,960
>> I know

994
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,880
>> but that in a lot of areas and a lot of

995
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,400
complaints and a lot of question and

996
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,880
answer hot topics out there are the fact

997
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,400
that this and this and this and we've

998
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,599
already got that done.

999
00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:35,200
>> So I feel really good about that. not

1000
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,960
batting myself or anybody else on the

1001
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,280
shoulder, but that is true. We are ahead

1002
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,119
of the ball game in a lot of that areas.

1003
00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:44,480
The other concern I have is I I I looked

1004
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,280
over what was on your agenda and I had

1005
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,200
some questions and I did have a brief

1006
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,880
conversation with the county attorney's

1007
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,320
assistant county attorney this morning

1008
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,079
and I think there's some conversation to

1009
00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:54,800
be had.

1010
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,079
>> Yes. So, we know that the contract um we

1011
00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:00,800
had sent it off to um their office and

1012
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,079
they kind of looked over. There were

1013
00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:03,680
some concerns. So, we're not asking a

1014
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,839
signature on a contract today. Um, so we

1015
00:36:07,839 --> 00:36:10,320
are planning on meeting with um the

1016
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,760
assistant county attorney and going

1017
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,599
over, you know, what those changes would

1018
00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:15,440
need to look like and then sit down with

1019
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,400
Govwell and see if we can work something

1020
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,040
out. So,

1021
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,200
>> I have the opportunity to review his

1022
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,880
email to you this morning and there's a

1023
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,200
couple um things in there that are

1024
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:25,920
concerning.

1025
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,599
>> Yeah. So, are we just talking about it

1026
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:31,680
today or do you need something to say to

1027
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,079
move forward with conversation? Just

1028
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:34,640
talking about it

1029
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,400
>> if we could maybe if we could move

1030
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,280
forward as long as the county attorney

1031
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,839
approves the contract. So, whatever

1032
00:36:41,839 --> 00:36:43,760
changes we make or we would be happy to

1033
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,160
come back next week or something like

1034
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:46,640
that.

1035
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,040
>> How about how about we approve trying to

1036
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,880
we look at something like uh trying to

1037
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,200
come up a final verbiage or pursue a

1038
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,280
final contract and see what they say. Or

1039
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,960
is it just as easy to say, "Hey, come

1040
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,400
back with come back with something and

1041
00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,599
then we'll approve it." You know, I

1042
00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:01,440
mean, we had good conversation here

1043
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,839
today. Um, and we had a conversation

1044
00:37:03,839 --> 00:37:05,040
with the Brian.

1045
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:05,440
>> Yeah.

1046
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,280
>> And he's wanted to have them.

1047
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,800
>> And I think that's fine. Um, because

1048
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,400
like I said before, we're not in like a

1049
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,079
huge hurry because we will still have

1050
00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:14,720
geo until July one. So we this gets

1051
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:16,079
pushed out a few weeks. It's not going

1052
00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:16,800
to impact,

1053
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,640
>> right? Can we have them look at what the

1054
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,160
terms of cancellation with geo

1055
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,520
permitting is? So we did um there was a

1056
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,920
few different options. I mean we could

1057
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,160
just continue with the contract and let

1058
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,079
it kind of ex you know [clears throat]

1059
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:31,680
um yeah the other option would be to

1060
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,400
just approach them and say hey you know

1061
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,160
we sat down with you we had these

1062
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,640
expectations it's not happening we're

1063
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,560
going with another company as of you

1064
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,880
know this date can we ask for a refund

1065
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,000
for you know from like March one until

1066
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,119
July one of next year just ask them. Um

1067
00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:51,440
the other option would be to pursue it

1068
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,480
at a guess higher level. Um which would

1069
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,880
take some time and effort on our end

1070
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,160
because it seems like there would be a

1071
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,599
lot of documentation we would have to

1072
00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:01,839
pull. So I personally don't feel that we

1073
00:38:01,839 --> 00:38:04,000
need to go that route just with not

1074
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,800
knowing an exact date when go well would

1075
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,040
>> I'm more notice of termination. Usually

1076
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,320
if you're going to terminate a

1077
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,320
contractor's room job we need to know 90

1078
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,960
days out you know 6 months out all that

1079
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,119
kind of stuff. What are the terms if we

1080
00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:20,800
decide to go with goat? Well, um ordeal

1081
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,920
permitting,

1082
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,599
>> we would just let them know. I do know

1083
00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:25,280
it was kind of discussed that, you know,

1084
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,040
we we did have some concerns about

1085
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,359
letting them know right away, but um I

1086
00:38:29,359 --> 00:38:30,560
think, you know, again, that's something

1087
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,400
that we can talk to our county

1088
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,480
attorney's office with to

1089
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:35,520
>> you have to look at your current

1090
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,599
contract with them and see if there is a date that has to be, you know, like a

1091
00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:41,920
twoe notice. But anyway, it's it's

1092
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,320
something that if we're going to

1093
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,920
obviously we're not getting what we need

1094
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,599
right now anyway. So, it's not like

1095
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:48,720
we're losing anything,

1096
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:49,200
>> right?

1097
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,560
>> I just don't want to pay an extra year

1098
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,400
just because

1099
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,320
I think I think the fear was paying for

1100
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,920
GEO and then giving or sorry, give

1101
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,560
giving them notice and then because the

1102
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,480
what we're paying for is for them to

1103
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,160
come in and assist us. So, we didn't

1104
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,560
want an issue to occur where like all of

1105
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,240
a sudden they weren't helping us because

1106
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:09,839
they knew that we were going to be

1107
00:39:09,839 --> 00:39:11,599
ending the contract at the end of the

1108
00:39:11,599 --> 00:39:14,640
next year. So, um I don't foresee that

1109
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:15,839
because they still have to follow

1110
00:39:15,839 --> 00:39:17,200
through on their contract.

1111
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,400
>> But when I'm here, they're not helping

1112
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,240
us anyway. So,

1113
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:22,320
>> so I mean the other side of it is it's

1114
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,640
to me it's as simple as not renewing.

1115
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,320
>> Yeah.

1116
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,000
>> I don't know. I just I would like to

1117
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,240
make sure those questions are asked and

1118
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:31,680
answered too. So we do

1119
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,359
>> is it agreeable that we can just you

1120
00:39:33,359 --> 00:39:35,200
come back with more information and uh

1121
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,760
maybe a agreement that we can read over

1122
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,880
and in a couple days ahead before take a

1123
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,839
>> vote can do that.

1124
00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:45,520
>> Appreciate your time. I think it's a

1125
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,440
good again another good improvement if

1126
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,880
it's we need something that works and

1127
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,160
>> I don't mind being ahead of the ball

1128
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,480
game as long as you know we get what we

1129
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,119
ask for.

1130
00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:56,880
>> Mhm.

1131
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:57,280
>> Okay.

1132
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,800
>> Anything else?

1133
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:06,069
>> All right. having day.

1134
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:08,480
» Next up is Alisa Smith, the auditor with

1135
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,000
her Good morning, tidbits.

1136
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,599
>> Good morning. This morning, I need a

1137
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:12,880
motion to approve the minutes of the

1138
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,200
August 25th, 2026 meeting as written by

1139
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,800
Auditor Smith and authorized publication

1140
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,800
of the official newspapers. I'd make

1141
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:19,520
that motion.

1142
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,400
>> I have a second.

1143
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,160
>> Got a motion by N, second by Mike to

1144
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,839
approve the minutes of the August 25th,

1145
00:40:23,839 --> 00:40:26,560
2026 meeting as written by Auditor Smith

1146
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,079
and authorized publication of official

1147
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:30,960
newspapers. Any other discussion?

1148
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,560
All those in favor say I.

1149
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:32,960
>> I.

1150
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,160
Opposed. Motion carries.

1151
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,839
>> I need a motion to approve the renewal

1152
00:40:37,839 --> 00:40:40,160
of a class B retail alcohol license to

1153
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,079
the Corny Beer Store LLC at 2600300

1154
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:46,640
Street Sweet B Lamont effective April

1155
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,720
19th, 2026 through April 18th, 2027.

1156
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:54,480
The reason for the odd date of April is

1157
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,880
that it was not sent to Jackson County.

1158
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,760
it was sent to a municipality and it sat

1159
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,520
on someone's desk. [clears throat]

1160
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,920
>> So, I did call out I did clarify with um

1161
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,599
the um alcohol beverage division and

1162
00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:11,599
that's what they told me. So, I mean

1163
00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:13,440
they're considered legal everything, but

1164
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:14,960
we just need to approve the light.

1165
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,400
>> So, this seems to be something that was

1166
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,079
>> ongoing issue. Is there a disconnect

1167
00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:21,920
with the state to the

1168
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,920
>> part of the problem is what I was told

1169
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,599
is that they switched over to a new

1170
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:28,079
computer system and they're looking at

1171
00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:30,960
algorithms and we had the same issue

1172
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,119
happen with the out of creek uh gas

1173
00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:37,200
station that that um license actually

1174
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,800
went to Zingle instead of to the county

1175
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,119
and it sat there and they've had some

1176
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:45,440
change over of personnel and they didn't

1177
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,359
know what to do with it. So that was

1178
00:41:47,359 --> 00:41:49,200
another one that was affected and this

1179
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,160
is another one. So

1180
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:50,960
>> in that area.

1181
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:51,359
>> Yeah.

1182
00:41:51,359 --> 00:41:55,280
>> So I was I I've been around here a long

1183
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,760
time but I wasn't familiar with corn

1184
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,160
beer store. So I did some phone calls

1185
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,680
yesterday and figured out where we're at

1186
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,200
and what what was happening and I talked

1187
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,480
to looked at law enforcement and um they

1188
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,800
didn't have an issue with

1189
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,079
>> you know I mean there's always a few

1190
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:11,200
issues here and there but they didn't

1191
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,800
have issue with it. So right

1192
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,040
>> I would make the motion to approve.

1193
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,560
>> I would second that. Got a motion by

1194
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,160
Mike, second by N to approve of the

1195
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,560
renewal of a class B retail alcohol

1196
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,160
license to Corny Beer Store LLC at

1197
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,079
2600300

1198
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:29,520
Street Sweet B Lamont effective April

1199
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:34,000
19, 2026 through April 18, 2027. Any

1200
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,000
other discussion?

1201
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,599
All those in favor say I.

1202
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:38,720
>> I. I.

1203
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:41,839
>> Opposed? Motion carries. I need a motion

1204
00:42:41,839 --> 00:42:44,319
to approve a five-day special class C

1205
00:42:44,319 --> 00:42:47,359
native retail wine license to Barrelhead

1206
00:42:47,359 --> 00:42:49,920
Barrel Head Winery, Inc. doing business

1207
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,960
as Inspiration Stables at 21177317th

1208
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,720
Street, Lamont, effective September

1209
00:42:56,720 --> 00:43:02,160
29th, 2026 through October 3rd, 2026.

1210
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,119
>> Make that motion.

1211
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:05,440
>> I would second. Motion by n second by

1212
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,800
Mike to approve a 5-day special class C

1213
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,680
re native retail wine license to

1214
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,000
Barrelhead Winery Incorporated doing

1215
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:18,079
business as Inspiration Stables at 21177

1216
00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:20,800
117th Street Lamont effective 29th

1217
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,280
September 2026 through October 3rd 2026.

1218
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,280
Any other discussion?

1219
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,599
>> 317 Street.

1220
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:30,960
>> Huh?

1221
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,960
3733.

1222
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:33,520
Correct.

1223
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:38,000
>> 317. Yeah. Any other discussion?

1224
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,839
All those in favor say I.

1225
00:43:39,839 --> 00:43:42,960
>> I. Opposed. Motion carries.

1226
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,160
>> We did receive from Growth Services LLC

1227
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,240
a contract and a invoice for this coming

1228
00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:53,599
year. Um, just for clarity, last year

1229
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:57,359
the invoice was for $1,581.

1230
00:43:57,359 --> 00:44:00,079
I did visit with Jeff concerning this.

1231
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:02,000
Um, I wanted to know if there was

1232
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,480
anybody else in the area that was

1233
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,480
certified that could do the work because

1234
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,839
this is the Orenco system and he had

1235
00:44:09,839 --> 00:44:12,640
checked into it and growth is the

1236
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,599
closest one around um that is certified

1237
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:18,560
to um to be to take care of the

1238
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,560
wastewater treatment facility at Andrew

1239
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,520
Jackson Care. So, I do need a motion to

1240
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,359
approve an authorized chair signature on

1241
00:44:25,359 --> 00:44:28,319
the contract with Growth Services LLC

1242
00:44:28,319 --> 00:44:30,720
effective September 4th, 2026 through

1243
00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:33,680
September 3rd, 2027 for the wastewater

1244
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,520
treatment facility at the Andrew Jackson

1245
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,200
Care Facility for $1,628.

1246
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,599
>> I'll make a motion to approve.

1247
00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:44,480
>> I would second. Got a motion by Nin,

1248
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,280
second by Mike to approve

1249
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,280
an authorized chair signature on a

1250
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,359
contract with Gross Services LLC

1251
00:44:51,359 --> 00:44:54,240
effective September 4th, 2026 through

1252
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:56,720
September 3rd, 2027 for wastewater

1253
00:44:56,720 --> 00:44:58,400
treatment facility at the Ender Jackson

1254
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,839
care facility for $1,628.

1255
00:45:01,839 --> 00:45:05,359
Any other discussion?

1256
00:45:05,359 --> 00:45:07,040
And your what you thought your minutes

1257
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,680
will say 20 because your agenda says

1258
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,240
through September 3rd, 2026. So, I just

1259
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:14,640
want to make sure that

1260
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,599
>> Yeah, my minutes do say September 2027.

1261
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:17,839
>> Okay.

1262
00:45:17,839 --> 00:45:18,319
>> Yep.

1263
00:45:18,319 --> 00:45:20,960
>> Any other discussion? All those in favor

1264
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:21,680
say I.

1265
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:22,160
>> I.

1266
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,000
Post.

1267
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,200
>> Motion carries.

1268
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,599
>> All that I have for the board today.

1269
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:30,000
>> All right. Anything boards or commission

1270
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,750
reports?

1271
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,400
» Um, no, not necessarily.

1272
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,520
>> We did [clears throat] have an RPA

1273
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,960
meeting last Thursday. Um, and the only

1274
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,720
thing really discussed is there was a

1275
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:45,440
study that the RPA approved for Dwit and

1276
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:46,720
Manchester to look at some

1277
00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:48,960
intersections. One of those was looking

1278
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,599
at a round out roundabout in Dwit on the

1279
00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:53,760
west side on the east side of town over

1280
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,400
by the school. Um, it was recommended to

1281
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,760
do so. So, it was brought to the RPA to

1282
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,839
proceed with actually acting on the

1283
00:46:01,839 --> 00:46:03,440
recommendation of the study and

1284
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,760
proceeding with it. So, that was that

1285
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,200
was brought to the table and they went

1286
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,240
ahead with that. So, um, we had our

1287
00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:11,280
first

1288
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:11,760
>> was that

1289
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:12,960
>> was a busy intersection.

1290
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,640
>> Yeah, [laughter] they're hoping with

1291
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,560
expanded growth on the east side that that'll help out. So, they're doing

1292
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,119
that. Um, we did have our first WMA

1293
00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:23,119
meeting with the new our new

1294
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:26,319
coordinator, Judy Joyce, and uh, she's

1295
00:46:26,319 --> 00:46:28,800
really kind of hit the ground running.

1296
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,319
She has a lot of background knowledge

1297
00:46:30,319 --> 00:46:31,920
and she's able to pick up the grant

1298
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,680
programs that we're currently running

1299
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,280
with our former uh uh coordinator and

1300
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,520
she got them kind of running. It appears

1301
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,040
to be seamless and she has a lot of

1302
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,119
other ideas that she's going to run

1303
00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:45,200
with. So, uh it'll be interesting to see

1304
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,920
where we go, but uh it seems like we're

1305
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,440
off to a good start with our new

1306
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,760
coordinator. So, that's a that's a good

1307
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,520
thing.

1308
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,599
Other than that, that's all I got. Oh,

1309
00:46:55,599 --> 00:46:58,160
we do have a hopefully wrapping up our

1310
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,359
final CEO meeting for the Mississippi

1311
00:47:01,359 --> 00:47:04,720
Valley Workforce Development Board. We

1312
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:06,880
have to clear up an invoice thing and

1313
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,800
then we will be completely transitioning

1314
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,960
to the Eastern Iowa Workforce

1315
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,240
Development Board, which is now the 21

1316
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:16,960
extra counties involved. So that

1317
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,720
>> So I guess yeah, too, one of the boards

1318
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:22,480
that is been eliminated on my on my list

1319
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,520
is DECAT. It's no longer in effect

1320
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,480
through the through the state. So,

1321
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,000
>> contracts are all eliminated and

1322
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,839
>> great. Anything else for the good?

1323
00:47:35,839 --> 00:47:37,599
>> No further business. I make a motion we

1324
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:38,480
adjourn.

1325
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,359
>> That's second.

1326
00:47:39,359 --> 00:47:41,280
>> Got a motion by Mike, second by N to

1327
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,920
adjurnn. Any other discussion?

1328
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,200
All those in favor say I. I.

1329
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,720
>> Motion carries. Have a great day

1330
00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:51,200
everybody.