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first public hearing to order. Uh the

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purpose of the public hearing is to

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receive public comment on the

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consideration of the proposed community

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development block grant disaster relief

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funding. Um with that, I'll turn it over

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to Mr. Poston.

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» Good evening. Um the for this public uh

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understanding the community block uh

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community develop block grant fund that

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we're going after is a disaster relief

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fund. Uh and we expect them to um

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request a little over a million dollars

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for help with uh with the uh

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construction of the new portion of the

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greenway and um some related items to

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the damage that was caused from

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Hurricane Helen. The reason why we

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qualify for this grant is because we are

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in a Helen affected county and disaster

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county. Um and in order to apply for for

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these types of grants, we need to hold

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two public hearings. wanted to announce

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our intent which is tonight's the

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purpose of tonight's hearing and then in

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September 1st we'll we'll talk about the

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grant specifics uh with the board uh and

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then have the board uh uh review that

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grant application uh proposal uh so

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tonight is just to hear public comments

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from the public about that we do have

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» um first up this evening for the

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greenway expansion or for this CBDG

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grant is Jennifer Hinton. Jennifer,

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» thank you for having us tonight. One of

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the things that I love about living in

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Jackson County is the abundance of

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outdoor spaces, both land and water to

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reimburse myself in. I've worked, raised

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my family, and kept myself healthy in

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our country's our county's outdoor

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resources. Um, one of these is our

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beloved Jackson County Greenway. I use

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the greenway as a nature immersion to

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meet up with friends, to walk my dog,

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and as a connector to cycling to WCU's

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campus. For me, it is one of the places

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that I access, but for others, it was

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their main place to access. The fact

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that the Greenway is paved, has abundant

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shade, and has seating makes all the

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difference in the lives of many of our

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county's older adults, individuals with

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sensory and mobility impairments, and

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adoptive equipment, and families with

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young children, especially those with

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strollers. Um, and for some, it's one of

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the only safe and accessible spaces in

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our county to get immersed outdoors in

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nature. Um, well, I'd like to confirm

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that I am not a spokesperson for Western

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Carolina University or speaking on their

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behalf on this topic. Uh, my status as a

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faculty member in the recreational

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therapy program there with decades of

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teaching and completing scholarship on

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the benefits of nature and

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adventure-based therapy uh does overlap

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here. And part of my job is to deeply

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understand the benefits of engaging with

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the natural world and to teach the

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aspiring recreational therapists to

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understand that and to apply it. And the

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research clearly shows ways to engage in

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outdoors to boost our physical health,

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our psychological well-being, and our

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ability to cope with stress. And the

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designation of the Jackson County

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Greenway is the first and currently the

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only accessible certified nature and

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forest therapy trail in the country

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undermines the importance of this space

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for all of our county's residents and

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guests and especially those who are most

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vulnerable. The question I get most as a

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board member for Friends of the Jackson

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County Greenways is when is it getting

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longer? Uh we're so excited that this

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goal is in reach and that we'll be able

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to expand the greenway and provide more

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opportunities for everyone. The greenway

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gets heavy usage. There are days out

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there that it's hard to park. We have so

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many folks that are out there. And I

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just want to thank you for all that you

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continue to do to support the greenway

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and its expansion. It is giving back to

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our community every day and the wellness

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of our residents and I appreciate it.

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>> Thank you.

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Next this evening we have excuse

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[clears throat] me Alexander Harris.

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» Good evening everyone. Um thank you for

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the chance to share my thoughts about

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the greenway and its place of importance

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in Jackson County. to give everyone a

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little background about myself. Um, I

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serve as one of the development officers

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at Western Carolina University and I'm

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on the board for the Friends of Jackson

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County Greenways, but I am not here as a

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spokesperson for Western Carolina

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University. My my views are my own. Um,

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so as a resident of Jackson County, I

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often walk on the greenway with with my

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dogs as way to relax, see friends, talk

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to neighbors, even have meetings. Um,

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when when when when I walk on the

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greenway, I see people of all ages. I

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see kids, you know, learning to ride

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their bikes. I see the elderly walking

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with their their walkers at their own

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pace and really everything in between.

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team, their their uh counters, we have a

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pretty good estimate that there is going

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to be around 160,000 users of the

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greenway this year. Now, other than it

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being a a public good for community and

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health, there are significant economic

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benefits, um there's been a few studies

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done that estimate three to four dollars

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um generate generated through the

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greenway for every dollar spent on the

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greenway, excuse me, um through tourism

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and economic activity. We've done

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extensive surveys of Greenway users um

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most of which are uh repeat users

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monthly if not weekly and um for anyone

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who who is interested in in having it,

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we have on the record that it is the

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best investment the county has ever

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made. That's on video.

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sense in terms of the people supporting

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the people that make Jackson County

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home, it's an asset that will uh that there's no very little cost

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implication for residents and a huge

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opportunity um in terms of travel, in

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terms of community events, in terms of

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engagement. Um, and it's a space to

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offer uh amenities for for the community

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as a whole. So, thank you for all you do

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to support the greenway. And if I see

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you out there, please say hello.

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>> Thank you, Alexander. Uh, with no

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further um person signed up, is there a

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motion to close public hearing

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>> All in favor?

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>> Now call to order our second public

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hearing. Uh the purpose of this public

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hearing is to receive public comment on

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the consideration of the proposed

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ordinance imposing a moratorum on data

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developments development of data

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centers. Mr. Post again

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» good evening again. Um, tonight we're

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holding the public hearing as required

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for us for the board to be able to

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consider a moratorum uh on the

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construction of the creation of new data

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centers within Jackson County. Um, we

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highlighted this at the at the uh

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previous meeting when we called for the

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public hearing, but we do have a draft

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ordinance that's been online that talks

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about timelines. Uh, this would be a

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proposed year moratorum. It'll have the

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county opportunity to look into the

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issue more broadly. make sure that

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regulations that we would create, if you

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choose to create regulations, uh the

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board would choose to adopt those

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regulations, give us time to have those

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conversations as a community and come up

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with the best possible set of

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regulations uh for Jackson County. Uh

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I'll be happy to answer any questions

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the board may have.

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Hello, I'm Chris Hamlet from Silva.

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And as far as the what you want to may

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want to consider when you're thinking

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about any sort of moratorium on data

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centers is and this goes back to a lot

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of the public coverage on them right now

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is a distinction between AI data centers

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and nonAI data centers.

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As an as a reference, a average house in

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our in our end of the uh state uses 10

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to 12 10 to 12,000 kilowatt hours

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annually. A grocery store or an old

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Walmart like what we have in town uses 2

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to 2.6 million kilowatt hours.

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a small nonAI data center, which given

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we're in the mountains and how hard it

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is to find flat land for anything, bigger than a small data center

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is not going to happen, is anywhere from

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4.4 to 17.5

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million kilowatt hours annually. A small

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AI data center is anywhere from 8.7 to

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million kilowatt hours annually.

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A big big a big reason for that

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difference between a nonAI data center

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and AI data center is a nonAI data

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center we have them all the time any

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company that serves a lot of serves a

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lot of customers like our utilities Duke

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power like a CG water or our media

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companies like Optimo or Direct TV they

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all have data centers to so we're

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accessing their customer records quicker

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than people have column of concerns

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and as for non AI data center like that

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it's basically access the hard drive get

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the data back there you go AI data

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center you're taking all of that and

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you're running the processor processors

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in that data center at 100% almost

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as an analogy a noner might be running

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all the electricities all the lights in

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to keep that with that and AI identity

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would be doing that same thing oven door

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open oven blasting space heaters

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throughout the house and a and the AC

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trying to keep up with all of that

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that's how much more heat is generated

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by an AI identity center that it then

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has to compensate for electricity usage

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and cooling and just electricity used by

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the computers themselves.

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Duke Power and Takasiji Waller on what

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their current path current excess

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generating capacity is right now to

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service such a high demand

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AI data center isn't going to just be a

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typical electricity line coming into

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your house maybe covered in kudzu.

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how low the CG gets. If you if you've

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driven along river road where where the

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water facility is that provides water

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for a good porta and a good part of this

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local area. We've seen how low that

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water gets sometimes.

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Think how much more that would have to

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get used by a data center that has to

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cool a lot of uh computer equipment

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that's running

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extremely high. Thank you.

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>> With no further

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people signed up for public comment. Is

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there a motion to close uh the second

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public hearing? So moved

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>> and a second.

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>> All in favor? I.

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>> None.

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Go ahead and call to order our regularly

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scheduled meeting. Uh first up this

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evening is pledge of allegiance.

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Everybody stand

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to the republic for which it stands. One

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nation under God, indivisible, with

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liberty and justice for all.

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» Welcome everyone. Uh first up this

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evening we have uh the approval of the

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agenda.

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Everyone's had a chance to look over it.

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Uh if they would please uh if there's a

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motion on the table for approval.

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>> So move.

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>> A second.

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>> Second.

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>> All in favor?

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>> I.

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>> None opposed. Moving on now to our work

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sess or minutes. Um we've got our work

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session minutes and our regularly scheduled minutes from August

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4th. If everybody's had a chance to look

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over those and there's a motion, I'd

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like to hear it.

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>> And second.

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>> All in favor?

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>> I.

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>> None opposed. Moving on now to uh

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administrative reports.

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Uh this week I have nothing to report.

321
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Um it's been kind of a slow couple

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weeks. So does any other commissioners

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have anything to report this week?

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>> Uh yeah, I attended the NRA down at our

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new um

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» I want to say fairgrounds. What? Charles

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Elders Event Center. And uh they served

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it was really phenomenal. It it went on

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a long time. U a lot of good people

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there to mingle with and they they

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actually served which is remarkable.

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They had prime rib au that was

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delicious. Baked potato and a salad and

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they served over 800 people in 44

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minutes. That is unbelievable.

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But it it was a good time and great food

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and uh it was for a good cause.

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>> Yep. I enjoyed it as well. Uh when the

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auction started, I figured out that most

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of those people have deeper pockets than

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me.

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[laughter]

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>> I have one more thing, too. I went to

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the Savannah Fire Department meeting

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yesterday and they are getting their new

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engine pumper. Um it'll be about a year

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and a half for them to actually make it

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and have it back to us. And it'll be

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their first four-wheel drive. And I

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posted it on my um Facebook, but it's uh

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replacing a was it an 82 or 83?

352
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>> 83, I think.

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>> 83 model. So um the county matched 250

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with 250 that uh Kevin got from the

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state Kevin Corbin.

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So congratulations to Savannah Fire

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Department and that's goes to a worthy

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cause.

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>> Absolutely.

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» If not, I'll turn it over to County

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Manager King and his report.

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I wanted to bring you up to speed on um

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actually all the projects, so it'll be a

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little bit longer list. Uh the Whittier

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Heritage Ground, of course, it was a a

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really good event. The NRA also they had Thomas that again just through the

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Great Smoke Mountain Railroad had a a

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good event for those eight days. Um no

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really issues with facility as far as

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the utilization and I'm kind of looking

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forward to this fall to see how many

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more events we can get down there.

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Speaking about that, we are still

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working on the water situation. Um the

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water is the potable water is there but

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uh working through with uh Cherokee on

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putting in the main line for the

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sprinkler system. So during all of those

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events we had a firewatch scenario which

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we had multiple folks working out with

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that um process but we want to get that

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going um quickly. So, within the next 20 days, 25 days, we're supposed to be

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finishing up and doing the the test on

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the sprinkler system and activating that

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system with the new water coming from

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the Cherokee utility.

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Um, also with that and we're kind of

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gearing up for the first year, so we'll

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be sending out our fees for the

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demolition of the remainder of the

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building, uh, which will be happening in

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January of 27th.

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And then uh we're also sending out RFPs

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for the new facility um that's going

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next to that which will be going online

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hopefully in spring of 2027. So we are

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working through all of those different

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pieces to kind of get that laid out. But

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I did want to let you know that is all on there. It is on there our project

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um that online so anybody can look at it

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and kind of see where we are in in the

402
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time frame. [sighs and gasps]

403
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uh the wittier fall apart. They weren't

404
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active today. So, we had been working

405
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through a lot of different punch list

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items with the contractor and I think

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all of those have been settled and so

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should be open to the public.

409
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>> That's good. I have one question on

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that. Have [snorts] you thought about

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moving that gate lower down to the road

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so people go up there and don't tear the

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pavement up trying to turn around?

414
00:25:10,159 --> 00:25:13,830
>> It's going to be relocated.

415
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Yeah. Okay. I just because it's brand

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new pavement and I went up there to

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check it out and [snorts] didn't know it

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was still closed and the pavements get

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where they're

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power steering. All right.

421
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The uh second part community park we did

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um got for bid for that. We did not get

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enough qualified biders. So the bid

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documents are being redrafted and will

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be sent that back out probably in the

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next 30 days. Um so when we get those

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we'll bring them back for your

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consideration. [snorts] Um web village.

429
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Um so we did get the CDB in our which

430
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we've been talking about grant 2.5

431
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million plus the half million from

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Goldman Leaf and then the addition of

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the 750,000 that the county has put in.

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Um what we're looking at is just kind of

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looking at the best options because it

436
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involves getting far property pure water

437
00:26:10,159 --> 00:26:12,880
tank and then looking at all the you

438
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know the attributes of trying to get it

439
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back to facility. So we are trying to do

440
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a multiaceted approach. We've identified

441
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two properties. Also, we're looking at a

442
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third option where it would better

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benefit not only the Webster area but

444
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also the Koi area with an increased

445
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capacity and may not cost it may cost

446
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the same

447
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when looking at it. So, anyway, it's

448
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taking just a little bit more time to

449
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,200
put together, but um I think that this

450
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process through this study will, you

451
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,440
know, will be the beneficial for the

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most people. So, [gasps]

453
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uh, there will be a, um, groundbreaking

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in October for the Gibbons section of

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Webster Village because they do

456
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currently have enough water pressure for

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their segment of it. So, there is going

458
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to be a a groundbreaking ceremony and I

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00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:07,440
think y'all will be invited to that. So,

460
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,640
>> when will that be?

461
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,960
>> U, I think it'll be on side.

462
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,400
>> Yep.

463
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>> It'll be in October.

464
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>> October. I don't know the specific date.

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[snorts]

466
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» The

467
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>> How long is that going to take? Are they

468
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given an estimate?

469
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>> Uh I think they said 18 months. Usually

470
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it's either 18 or 24, but I'm pretty

471
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sure they said 18 on that one.

472
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Any other questions? Okay. Uh the

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administration building, we did have a

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topping out ceremony um back on the 6th

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of August. And so that was a really good

476
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,799
event. Venomware did a great job and

477
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they are doing a great job. It's coming

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up rather quickly. So, uh, it'll

479
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probably slow down a little bit once

480
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they get undercover, but I am grateful

481
00:27:57,039 --> 00:27:59,279
for all the the men and women that have

482
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worked on that project. They they've

483
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,600
really done a great job so far. [sighs]

484
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,240
Um, detention facility, which is on your

485
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,399
agenda tonight, so I may not save I may

486
00:28:08,399 --> 00:28:12,960
save that for later on agenda. um

487
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,240
the uh a new project. So the cashers

488
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,960
transfer station we did do get get the

489
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money from

490
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,360
uh the state on that one and we are have

491
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:28,000
gotten back the RSQs for the engineering

492
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,240
firm. The only engineering firm we did

493
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,640
receive was Miguel and Associates who

494
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,960
did the initial PE um when we did the

495
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,399
project. And so with that said, with it

496
00:28:40,399 --> 00:28:42,159
being a professional service, we can go

497
00:28:42,159 --> 00:28:44,880
ahead and and let them start uh the

498
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,720
design process. So that be coming up and

499
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,600
that's of course laying out the a new

500
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,200
transfer station. You know, we're

501
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,399
working with um the forest service to

502
00:28:56,399 --> 00:28:59,360
expand the footprint of that area of the

503
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permit area. And so it's just a it's

504
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,600
going to be a little bit of a tedious

505
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,520
type of u negotiation I guess or through

506
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:08,960
the process but it's so it's going to

507
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,200
take a little more time but it is on a

508
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,159
good at this point. We've gotten letters

509
00:29:14,159 --> 00:29:18,559
both from uh forest service and all our

510
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:20,640
state partners the for dinner and things

511
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,240
like that. So I think everything is

512
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,520
progressing. Um right now we still do I

513
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,559
don't have a budget uh for that. So, we

514
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:30,320
had the initial budget. When we get a

515
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,440
little bit more in the programming

516
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,200
piece, uh we we'll kind of bring you

517
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:38,310
more up to speed on where we are at.

518
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,559
Uh the new another new project is the

519
00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:46,080
aquatic facility at Cash Recreation

520
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,720
Center. So, y'all did allocate funding

521
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,880
in this year's budget for an initial

522
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,600
design. We have gotten a designer. they

523
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,520
have got have went through the process

524
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,600
of doing some geotech. So we are

525
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,360
starting that process that process has

526
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,000
started. So I just want to let you know

527
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,760
uh kind of where we are with it. So

528
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,159
we'll be bringing back some planned is

529
00:30:08,159 --> 00:30:09,600
probably going to take four to six

530
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,600
months to get those plans you know kind

531
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,320
of good but then we'll be bringing it

532
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,880
back for your consideration.

533
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,559
Uh the Canada community development

534
00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:20,320
which has also allocated some funding

535
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,120
for some renovation. Um, we're going to

536
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,360
be using utilizing county staff to work

537
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,279
on that project. Um, so that will

538
00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:29,600
probably be starting this fall. Uh, so

539
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,279
if you get anybody from the community

540
00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:33,440
asking questions that we do, we did have

541
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,600
too many set aside. Not much, but we are

542
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,760
going to be utilizing some of our county

543
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,679
staff to do some renovation assembly.

544
00:30:41,679 --> 00:30:44,559
And then kind of with that is the Kend

545
00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:47,440
Fire Department. We are still in um

546
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,640
process of finding property. So, uh,

547
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,840
that still is on the books, but we are

548
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,600
just still trying to identify a piece of

549
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,039
property that would make it a good fit.

550
00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:01,440
So,

551
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,799
and I think that's it for right now. Any

552
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:05,440
questions?

553
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,760
>> How many projects total is that?

554
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,159
>> Uh, 11.

555
00:31:10,159 --> 00:31:10,640
Sorry.

556
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,039
>> Do you have a dollar amount?

557
00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:15,520
>> It's on the website. [laughter]

558
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,520
>> Just wanted everybody to be aware we're

559
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,440
doing a lot right now. Yeah.

560
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,360
>> Uh, I have just a few questions.

561
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:21,919
>> Okay.

562
00:31:21,919 --> 00:31:25,840
>> Uh, down at the fair grounds,

563
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,520
Whittier Heritage Heritage Grounds. Um,

564
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,120
someone brought up to me that the event

565
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,039
was great. Everything's great, but when

566
00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:37,200
they went outside, it's pitch black. Can

567
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,640
we get some lights to some

568
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,640
lights to go up outside so people could

569
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,240
see to get back to vehicles?

570
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,760
>> Yeah. You know, we really didn't address

571
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,559
it. I guess um early on we did have a

572
00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:51,519
plan but we did not engage any you know

573
00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:53,360
civil engineering group to do it because

574
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,840
we were going to do the uh we're not

575
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,200
going to put pavement on there because

576
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,600
it would there's just not enough area

577
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,840
for place for storm

578
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,440
>> water

579
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,320
fairgrounds

580
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,320
>> but um the lighting piece will take us

581
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,320
>> lights is what they were concerned about

582
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,159
just you know the lights on the outside

583
00:32:12,159 --> 00:32:13,919
of the building when they got out is

584
00:32:13,919 --> 00:32:16,480
pitch black. Yeah.

585
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:17,039
>> And

586
00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:18,240
>> a lot of people walking through the

587
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,360
field down to their

588
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:19,679
>> Yeah.

589
00:32:19,679 --> 00:32:21,200
>> truck. You'd think they were serving

590
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,407
alcohol in there because they were

591
00:32:23,407 --> 00:32:23,840
[laughter]

592
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,600
>> stepping in holes and stuff.

593
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:26,240
>> Okay.

594
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,830
>> Including me.

595
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,720
» Uh let's see. Then the administrative

596
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,080
building, how long is that going to take

597
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,360
to complete?

598
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,440
>> Uh be July of 2027 is the anticipated

599
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,402
time.

600
00:32:42,402 --> 00:32:44,549
[snorts]

601
00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:46,880
Hey, you won't be there for that.

602
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,000
>> Oh, I didn't want to bring I missed one.

603
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,080
So, a couple of them actually did. Um,

604
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,519
with the detention center, we also have

605
00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:55,919
the justice center

606
00:32:55,919 --> 00:32:59,279
uh renovation and that one we've been

607
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:01,600
trying to trying to wait. Um, we kind of

608
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,279
had to switch it up a little bit because

609
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:05,519
we are looking at trying to decrease the

610
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:07,120
cost of it because between the two

611
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,360
facilities, the detention center and the

612
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,159
justice center all had allocated 15

613
00:33:12,159 --> 00:33:16,080
million. And so, um, the tent center ran

614
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,039
a little bit over, but there's still

615
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:22,320
money available for the renovation. So,

616
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,039
we're trying to scale it back for u

617
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:27,360
hopefully getting not having to do the

618
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:28,880
sprinkler system, which would save a lot

619
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,519
of money and also uh looking at

620
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:33,919
reutilizing some of the downstairs as

621
00:33:33,919 --> 00:33:35,840
well. So, we're still working on it and

622
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,760
we still think we can make it happen,

623
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,519
but it just taking a little bit more

624
00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:42,399
time.

625
00:33:42,399 --> 00:33:45,120
get a GMP on the middle school yet? I

626
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,269
know we're looking for that.

627
00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:52,799
» We're we're so [sighs] with the middle

628
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:55,279
school. Um

629
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:57,039
we're not going to have a DMP by the

630
00:33:57,039 --> 00:34:00,799
time y'all need, you know, to vote on

631
00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:02,399
I'm putting it on.

632
00:34:02,399 --> 00:34:03,200
>> Yeah.

633
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,120
>> They were within a couple of weeks last

634
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,640
we talked.

635
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,359
Well, the the designer the design team,

636
00:34:09,359 --> 00:34:12,240
which is at Pinnacle, um was supposed to

637
00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:15,599
have a a um design ready by the 27th of

638
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:19,040
August, but in the meantime, they've

639
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,639
then they've switched it to a different

640
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:22,159
location.

641
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:24,560
And so with on on the pad to try to

642
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,000
minimize some of the retaining walls,

643
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,760
which is driving cost, which they have

644
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,000
eliminated all the retaining walls. So

645
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,200
that that was a positive. But the actual

646
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,320
design safe.

647
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:36,800
>> Do what?

648
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,879
>> How much is that going to save?

649
00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:40,639
>> I don't know. But it I know it saved

650
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:43,679
some, but we don't know yet. But you got

651
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:46,000
to get better. You can't just have a

652
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,520
piece of paper and say, "Yeah, give me a

653
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:48,960
price." So, you got to have a little bit

654
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,720
more um analysis of exactly what the

655
00:34:52,720 --> 00:34:55,369
design is to get a good number. So,

656
00:34:55,369 --> 00:34:57,119
[snorts] there's not really good We can

657
00:34:57,119 --> 00:34:59,359
give them estimates like they have, but

658
00:34:59,359 --> 00:35:03,440
not anything concrete.

659
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,720
Well, their estimates is the reason

660
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:06,160
we're in the shape we're in.

661
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:11,589
>> Yeah.

662
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:13,709
» Originally.

663
00:35:13,709 --> 00:35:16,230
[snorts]

664
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:18,240
» Yeah.

665
00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:20,880
>> All right. With no uh further reports,

666
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,200
uh we have move on to our informal

667
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,359
comments by the public. Up tonight, we

668
00:35:25,359 --> 00:35:32,470
have Jennifer Lawler.

669
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,359
Quick reminder that um this is a a time

670
00:35:35,359 --> 00:35:38,480
for us to listen, not respond to

671
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,560
comments or questions, and the time

672
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,520
limit is up on the screen. Um each

673
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:44,800
speaker gets three minutes.

674
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:45,280
>> Okay,

675
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,119
>> with that, Miss LOL.

676
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:48,720
>> All right. Good evening. Thank you for

677
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:50,160
giving me the opportunity to speak

678
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,160
tonight. I want to begin by saying that

679
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,599
I support the proposed one-year

680
00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:55,760
moratorum on data centers. I believe a

681
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,400
one-year pause is reasonable approach to

682
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,079
give our elected officials time to

683
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:02,079
understand how data centers can affect

684
00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:04,240
our community before making decisions

685
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:06,880
that could have long-term consequences.

686
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,960
The issue I am most concerned about are

687
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,640
the flot cameras installed throughout

688
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,359
our community. My concern is the scope

689
00:36:13,359 --> 00:36:15,680
of surveillance these cameras create and

690
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,920
the lack of consent and transparency

691
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,320
surrounding the collection and sharing

692
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,880
of this information. According to the

693
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,480
recent article published by the Sila

694
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,000
Herald,

695
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,720
17 Jackson County officers have access

696
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:30,960
to the data collected by these cameras.

697
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,520
We are told that the information is only

698
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,880
retained for 30 days. However, that

699
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,800
information is also being shared with

700
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,640
approximately 280 other agencies.

701
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,880
What does a 30-day retention really mean

702
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,800
when information collected about the

703
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,280
people in our community can be accessed

704
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,240
or shared across such a large network of

705
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:55,119
agencies? I did not consent to have my

706
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:56,640
movements recorded because I drive

707
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,280
through town. I did not consent to have

708
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,680
a record created of where my vehicle

709
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,599
travels, when it travels, and

710
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:05,920
potentially having that information made

711
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,680
available beyond our own local law

712
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,480
enforcement. We have a system already

713
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,320
operating in our community that many

714
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,560
residents did not know about, did not

715
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,040
have an opportunity to to discuss and

716
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,000
did not consent to. I want to be clear.

717
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,920
I am not opposed to law enforcement or

718
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,280
public safety. I support both. And I

719
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,839
want to be equally clear about what I am

720
00:37:27,839 --> 00:37:30,160
asking the board to do. I am asking you

721
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,960
to remove those flot cameras. Other

722
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,800
communities and surrounding counties

723
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,400
have listened to their residents and are

724
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,400
removing these systems because of

725
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,960
community concern and push back. I

726
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,720
believe our community deserves the same

727
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:44,240
consideration.

728
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:45,920
We should not have to accept increased

729
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,599
surveillance simply because the

730
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:50,240
technology exists. The proposed data

731
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:52,320
center moratorum shows that this board

732
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,640
understands the importance of taking a

733
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,040
step back, gathering information, and

734
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,280
considering the long-term impact on our

735
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,839
community before moving forward. I am

736
00:38:01,839 --> 00:38:03,440
asking you to apply that same

737
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,839
consideration to the flock cameras.

738
00:38:05,839 --> 00:38:07,440
Protecting our community should not

739
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,599
require sacrificing the privacy of the

740
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:12,079
people who live here. Please support the

741
00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:13,920
one-year data moratorium and please

742
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,079
listen to your residents who are asking

743
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:18,400
you to remove the flock cameras. Thank

744
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,310
you.

745
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,680
» No one else signed up for public

746
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,200
comment. We'll move on to our consent

747
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,200
agenda portion. And first up this

748
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,800
evening with the finance report is Miss

749
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:37,430
Fox. [snorts]

750
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:38,560
Good afternoon.

751
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,640
>> Afternoon.

752
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,560
>> I'll go the highlights for the month of

753
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,960
July. The general fund revenues

754
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,440
collected six million $1,929.

755
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,520
That's 5.52% of budget. The average for

756
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,440
the year is 8.33%. So it's under 2.81%

757
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,040
this time.

758
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,760
The expenditures on the other hand are

759
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,190
10,429,630.

760
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:11,680
That's 10.32% of budget. So they're over

761
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,599
8.33% by 1.99%.

762
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:20,230
Currently the revenues are $4,427,71

763
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:24,150
less than expenditures.

764
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,839
The abalone taxes and NCVTS taxes

765
00:39:27,839 --> 00:39:33,990
collected. The abalorum tax 1,375,161

766
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,920
2.9% of the budget. The public safety

767
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,599
adorum tax 346,152

768
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:46,240
which is 2.77% of budget. The NCVTS

769
00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:50,400
motor vehicle tax 183,368

770
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,760
that's 9.13% of budget. And the prior

771
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,599
year average tax $77,045

772
00:39:57,599 --> 00:40:00,320
that's 25.68%.

773
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,440
Currently at the end of July we had

774
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,599
accounts receivable recorded for FY26

775
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:11,589
in the amount of 4,580,987.

776
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:13,359
We will continue to get those revenues

777
00:40:13,359 --> 00:40:16,800
in till the middle of September.

778
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,760
the we received the sales and use tax

779
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:25,349
distribution an amount of $1,997,86

780
00:40:25,359 --> 00:40:29,040
that's for April sales that amount is

781
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,800
5.57%

782
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,440
more than we received in July of 2025

783
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:41,190
the article 46 distribution was 220,569

784
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,119
and the average increase for the fiscal

785
00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:48,480
year at the end of April 7.2 29%.

786
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,720
The landfill disposal fees 70,696

787
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:55,680
that's 2.29% of budget and the prior

788
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,079
year disposal fees

789
00:40:58,079 --> 00:40:59,599
7,327

790
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:05,349
that's 9.77% of budget.

791
00:41:05,359 --> 00:41:10,160
The growth revenues for FY27

792
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,280
uh the code enforcement in July over

793
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,960
collection amount estimated by 5.8 88%

794
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:22,468
and the rest is over by 7.17%.

795
00:41:22,478 --> 00:41:24,480
[snorts]

796
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,520
The general fund contingency balance at

797
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:35,030
the end of July 2,152,323.

798
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,359
I'd be glad to answer any questions on

799
00:41:37,359 --> 00:41:39,680
the report.

800
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,079
>> Questions for Miss Fox?

801
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:44,160
If not, we'll move on to our budget

802
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,760
ordinance amendment and project

803
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,640
ordinance amendment.

804
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,920
>> The first amendment is for

805
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,160
appropriation from fund balance for the

806
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,319
amount remaining at the end of FY26 for

807
00:41:58,319 --> 00:42:10,230
SEC capital. That amount's $576,559.

808
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:11,760
They do have a project ordinance

809
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,280
amendment

810
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,280
that's for the detention facility

811
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,280
project fund.

812
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,640
It's a increase in construction cost of

813
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,599
1,795607

814
00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:26,480
decreasing contingency.

815
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,760
Uh we're moving the from proceeds of

816
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,480
loan decreasing that amount by 8 million

817
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,319
514810

818
00:42:34,319 --> 00:42:36,319
and increase and transfer from capital

819
00:42:36,319 --> 00:42:41,910
reserve for 9 million 56 596607.

820
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,400
» Any questions about either budget

821
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,109
ordinance amendment?

822
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:50,160
» Thank you.

823
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,160
>> Moving on now we'll go to tax collector

824
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:59,670
and refund reports and Miss Brooks.

825
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,880
Good evening. So for the month of July,

826
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,640
the current taxes collected was

827
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,950
$1,763,53.

828
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,119
The delinquent taxes collected were

829
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:14,150
109,717.

830
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,000
The total collected for the month was

831
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:21,589
$1,947,216.13.

832
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:26,550
There were refunds of $2,24747

833
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:31,430
and releases of $7,240.24.

834
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,119
» Any questions?

835
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:34,960
>> Questions for Miss Brooks?

836
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:35,599
>> Thank you.

837
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:38,960
Uh, is there a motion to

838
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,240
approve the consent agenda as presented?

839
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:42,800
>> So move

840
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,160
>> and a second.

841
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,599
>> Second. All in favor?

842
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:46,560
>> I.

843
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,880
>> None opposed. Moving on now to new

844
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,680
business and offer to purchase for Pine

845
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:59,910
Creek Community Building and Mr. King.

846
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:02,880
So in your packet is a offer to purchase

847
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,520
the Pine Creek Community Building from

848
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,440
Mr. [clears throat] James

849
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,200
Renowski

850
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,520
uh for $30,000.

851
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,359
Uh a little bit of background on this.

852
00:44:13,359 --> 00:44:16,079
Um he had made a request or he sent a

853
00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:18,960
request in. We did a utilization

854
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,560
report on the um the community center.

855
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,760
It is kind of inactive. I think they had

856
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,079
like three people a year rent it. So it

857
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:29,599
is

858
00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:31,920
really by that cow pasture.

859
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,280
>> Yes.

860
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,200
>> That used to be my grandmother's. She

861
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,640
grew up there. That was their land.

862
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:37,920
>> Yeah.

863
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,880
um

864
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,119
that he you know he his big thing was I

865
00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:45,359
think he repurchased the old school

866
00:44:45,359 --> 00:44:47,440
concrete school so I think he actually

867
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,319
lives in that and we refurbished it so

868
00:44:50,319 --> 00:44:55,119
he wants to do the same thing with this building as well but it'll be more

869
00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:58,319
of a historical significance

870
00:44:58,319 --> 00:45:01,680
um anyway I guess the question would be

871
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,440
one would you want to entertain the

872
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,640
offer um kind of knowing that the

873
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:12,880
community has not been utilizing it in many years. Um, so it's at the

874
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,640
pleasure of the board. So,

875
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,760
>> is there anything we could use it for?

876
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,480
>> It doesn't have a water or sewer, I

877
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:21,920
don't believe. So,

878
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,040
>> more people are going to Glimble. This

879
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,160
just more central. This one's I

880
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,839
understand the reasoning for having it

881
00:45:29,839 --> 00:45:33,359
out there in the past. It's just kind of

882
00:45:33,359 --> 00:45:35,440
said it's in the middle of a cow pasture

883
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,680
and there's not that much traffic

884
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,920
towards it um or involvement with it. I

885
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,040
know a couple people that may

886
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,680
live near there, but I mean more often

887
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,400
than not they're using

888
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,119
library or something closer to town.

889
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:55,680
>> How long has that building been there?

890
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:56,319
>> You don't know.

891
00:45:56,319 --> 00:45:57,599
>> I can't ask.

892
00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:00,240
>> Much property is with it. Just much

893
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:01,440
property.

894
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,760
>> Um, let's see. I did have a sorry it is

895
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:10,319
definitely left less than an acre. Uh,

896
00:46:10,319 --> 00:46:14,601
I think in your packets

897
00:46:14,611 --> 00:46:20,550
[snorts]

898
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:30,309
doesn't give me oh five half an acre.

899
00:46:30,319 --> 00:46:32,960
I mean, I'm not opposed to it. Um, I'd

900
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,040
like to

901
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,960
speak with the people I guess maybe the

902
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,400
last people that have rented it. Will we

903
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,160
just

904
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,359
>> Is it Yeah. Is it an annual thing where

905
00:46:45,359 --> 00:46:48,079
they same people

906
00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:48,880
go there?

907
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,480
>> No, it's just pretty much open-ended.

908
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,079
There there's one I guess she's the

909
00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:54,640
custodian of it and basically she's the

910
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,280
one that runs it out but we we checked

911
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:58,960
on the utilization like say there's been

912
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,160
three in 2025 and think three been three

913
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,400
in 2026

914
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,560
>> I'm kind of wonders if they have like a

915
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,520
annual there's no annual event event or

916
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:10,720
anything

917
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:12,640
>> local family or something have their get

918
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,079
together there

919
00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:16,960
>> reunion something

920
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,720
>> very small usage

921
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:20,319
>> do they have water and sewer out there

922
00:47:20,319 --> 00:47:23,520
in that uh shed on the right. Not shed,

923
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,079
that building on the right for equipment

924
00:47:26,079 --> 00:47:27,119
for farming.

925
00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:27,920
>> No,

926
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,880
>> they don't.

927
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,119
>> There's a creek that runs

928
00:47:33,119 --> 00:47:36,560
>> like 20 ft past it that all their cows

929
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:37,599
go to.

930
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:41,072
>> It's not like they're even.

931
00:47:41,072 --> 00:47:41,119
[snorts]

932
00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:42,880
>> So, there's no plumbing whatsoever in

933
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:43,760
the building

934
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,680
>> from my understanding. I've actually not

935
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:46,880
been out to see it. So,

936
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,560
>> I was there, but it was a long long long

937
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,800
time ago.

938
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,880
didn't know

939
00:47:52,880 --> 00:48:02,678
>> tax value.

940
00:48:02,688 --> 00:48:03,343
[laughter]

941
00:48:03,343 --> 00:48:05,308
[snorts]

942
00:48:05,308 --> 00:48:06,960
[sighs]

943
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:12,319
It says it's got a a value of $67,527

944
00:48:12,319 --> 00:48:14,480
and the building and the land is at

945
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,079
40,380.

946
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:17,200
But

947
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:17,920
>> so

948
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,720
>> that's not taking consideration the

949
00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:24,079
>> shape of it. I mean I don't

950
00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:30,790
>> if he improves it then

951
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,990
» tax

952
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,119
using

953
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:38,640
>> I'm not opposed to it. I just think that

954
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,920
we need to

955
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,839
maybe contact those three people and

956
00:48:43,839 --> 00:48:45,599
see, you know, what they're using it for

957
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:46,880
and

958
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,000
>> get something out.

959
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,680
>> Yeah. And let let the rest of the people

960
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,349
around there know.

961
00:48:53,359 --> 00:48:54,880
» Maybe let's table it till

962
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:55,280
>> Yeah.

963
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:56,480
>> next time.

964
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,040
>> Yeah. is I think that I mean it's

965
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,079
explained to the community that they may

966
00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:04,640
not get to use it but it will be

967
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,520
preserved possibly hopefully

968
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,760
>> he'll use it go in and fix it up and

969
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:14,470
everything but who knows

970
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,960
» but they do have electric

971
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,324
>> yes

972
00:49:19,324 --> 00:49:21,280
[snorts]

973
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,440
>> okay we'll get some more information on

974
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,920
that before we make a decision um moving

975
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,680
on Now to the detention facility, GMP,

976
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,349
Mr. King.

977
00:49:33,359 --> 00:49:36,319
So [sighs and gasps] in your packet, we

978
00:49:36,319 --> 00:49:39,040
did go throughout the bidding process

979
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,720
and got a GMP back of construction cost

980
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:46,470
of $8,796,67

981
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,680
and the ownership cost is 800,000 for a

982
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:56,069
total of 9,596,607.

983
00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:57,760
So, and this is for your consideration

984
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,000
for approval. U

985
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,480
>> we already allocated that money.

986
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,240
>> So, this is the budget amendment that

987
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:06,319
you just did was taking it from the

988
00:50:06,319 --> 00:50:08,000
capital reserve fund and putting it in

989
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,440
the budget to pay for it. So, there's no

990
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,359
loans that will be

991
00:50:11,359 --> 00:50:13,520
>> we set aside a big chunk of talking

992
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,200
about separate.

993
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,520
>> We remove the loan proceeds

994
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,119
and substituted capital.

995
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:24,400
>> Yeah.

996
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,000
How much over is what? 1.4 was higher

997
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,520
than the estimated.

998
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,839
>> Yeah. Yeah, it was. I mean, we just kind

999
00:50:31,839 --> 00:50:34,319
of separate in half on on the actual

1000
00:50:34,319 --> 00:50:36,800
allocation. Um, so it is running a

1001
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,319
little bit higher. Not not much higher.

1002
00:50:38,319 --> 00:50:39,839
It's still within, you know, that

1003
00:50:39,839 --> 00:50:42,000
definitely the parameters of what we

1004
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,359
discussed, but um yeah.

1005
00:50:45,359 --> 00:50:48,079
>> So remind the public a little bit about

1006
00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:50,960
it's going to be building on. Correct.

1007
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,200
>> Yep. And we have Venoi here. they can

1008
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:53,839
come up

1009
00:50:53,839 --> 00:50:56,480
>> and the fact that we've been having to

1010
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,960
transport our inmates to other

1011
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,960
facilities and pay for all that and it's

1012
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,079
quite expensive.

1013
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:03,920
>> Correct. Yes, we have.

1014
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,599
>> Yeah, this is kind of a reactive thing

1015
00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:08,880
that would we needed been have done,

1016
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:09,280
>> right?

1017
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:14,160
>> It's adding um I think 40 bits or 40.

1018
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,240
Even with us moving out of here or the

1019
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:18,079
administrative side moving out of this

1020
00:51:18,079 --> 00:51:20,640
part of the building, you the sheriff's

1021
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,079
office still going to need the extra

1022
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:23,119
space.

1023
00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:23,920
>> Yes.

1024
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:24,400
>> Yeah.

1025
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:25,680
>> There's going to be a lot of room in

1026
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,359
here when

1027
00:51:27,359 --> 00:51:30,319
>> all the sheriffs will be utilizing all

1028
00:51:30,319 --> 00:51:33,200
of this section and the downstairs will

1029
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,960
be will be more for detention. So, and

1030
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,520
be the sheriff.

1031
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,760
Any

1032
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:42,640
specific

1033
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,960
>> any questions for

1034
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:45,520
you?

1035
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,440
>> I just want, you know, a little bit of a

1036
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,839
refresh for the public of what y'all are

1037
00:51:49,839 --> 00:51:50,319
doing.

1038
00:51:50,319 --> 00:51:51,520
>> Yeah.

1039
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,599
>> Well, we it's actually been a really

1040
00:51:53,599 --> 00:51:56,319
good process. Um, COP Architecture out

1041
00:51:56,319 --> 00:52:00,240
of Knoxville was the design team uh

1042
00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:03,760
along with Venoi and we've had a really

1043
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,319
good process that we've worked through

1044
00:52:06,319 --> 00:52:08,640
and you know kind of merging the two

1045
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:09,760
facilities together, the current

1046
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,400
facilities down there with the new it's

1047
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,720
been a challenge um you know trying to

1048
00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:16,559
get everything working together and

1049
00:52:16,559 --> 00:52:19,200
looking at the 904 plan which is like

1050
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,160
the smoky back systems. It's been

1051
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,000
challenging to kind of work through that

1052
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,079
process. So, some of this money is

1053
00:52:26,079 --> 00:52:27,440
actually going to be for maintenance

1054
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,839
type of issues that we would had to do

1055
00:52:29,839 --> 00:52:32,000
anyway on the current facility. So, like

1056
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,000
the some of the roofing, some of the

1057
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,680
HVAC

1058
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,280
control are going to have to be merged

1059
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,000
together. So, a lot of this is is kind

1060
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,400
of

1061
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:43,680
>> remodel as well.

1062
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,040
>> Exactly. So,

1063
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,040
>> who was the design team?

1064
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,880
>> Cop

1065
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:49,680
out of Knoxville.

1066
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,960
>> Out of Knoxville. Yes.

1067
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,839
>> Do we ever resolve the generator issue?

1068
00:52:55,839 --> 00:52:56,559
>> I can't remember.

1069
00:52:56,559 --> 00:52:57,200
>> Say that one more time.

1070
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:58,800
>> Generator issue.

1071
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,599
>> Yes. That was a part of that 904 um

1072
00:53:01,599 --> 00:53:04,000
piece. You have to get it and that's I

1073
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,359
always call it division of facility

1074
00:53:05,359 --> 00:53:06,880
services, but it's I don't know what the

1075
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,680
new acronym. Anyway, the state detention

1076
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,160
service folks, we have to work for them

1077
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:13,920
to get almost anything done with a

1078
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,280
detention center. You have to get

1079
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,119
approval from them through a permitting

1080
00:53:17,119 --> 00:53:20,160
process. So, it's been kind of tedious

1081
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,200
kind of work through the different

1082
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,240
>> operators have been shuffling around for

1083
00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:27,119
a couple years now. So, let's do that.

1084
00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:29,359
>> Yeah. Now, now we're on a good path. We

1085
00:53:29,359 --> 00:53:32,240
do have a uh in this process reason it

1086
00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:33,440
cost a little bit more in the design

1087
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,480
piece is because of the amount of land

1088
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,280
that was never put in when the facility

1089
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:44,079
was built. So, this is be new for us.

1090
00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:45,680
>> How big is the new portion of the

1091
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,400
building square footage? 4200 square

1092
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:54,309
feet

1093
00:53:54,319 --> 00:53:55,599
» footprint and then it's got the two

1094
00:53:55,599 --> 00:53:56,240
stories.

1095
00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:59,599
>> Oh, okay. Thinking

1096
00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:05,030
that's a a square foot per person.

1097
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,119
» Yeah,

1098
00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:07,680
>> sure.

1099
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,760
>> It's good. Yeah, I'm glad we able to

1100
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,920
refra. It's been a long time since we've

1101
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,319
initially unless I missed something, but

1102
00:54:14,319 --> 00:54:16,640
>> No, it's been a bit. It's been a while.

1103
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,160
currently smaller than the arena that

1104
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,760
we're be putting up

1105
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,920
>> next spring. So,

1106
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,000
>> are we using utilizing property we've

1107
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,319
got back here already?

1108
00:54:26,319 --> 00:54:29,280
>> Yeah. And it's going to be u there's

1109
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,280
going to be some, you know, they've come

1110
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:32,800
up with a good plan on like the

1111
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,319
utilization for the back piece. So,

1112
00:54:34,319 --> 00:54:35,760
getting construction folks in while

1113
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,079
trying to keep the inmates and prisoner

1114
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:40,720
population segmented. So, right now

1115
00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:42,880
there's been a good plan developed

1116
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,800
throughout this process, too. So all

1117
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,119
that had to be taken care of sometime.

1118
00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:48,559
>> It's been wonderful working with the

1119
00:54:48,559 --> 00:54:50,800
sheriff and his team and figuring that

1120
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:51,440
all out.

1121
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:51,839
>> Yeah.

1122
00:54:51,839 --> 00:54:53,280
>> Exciting to get it started.

1123
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:53,920
>> Good deal.

1124
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,880
>> Do we Darlene, do we know or Kevin do we

1125
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,040
know how much we've spent as far as

1126
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,319
taking inmates out of the county?

1127
00:55:02,319 --> 00:55:04,000
>> I can get a number for you.

1128
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,800
>> Okay. Is it a you think it's a lot of

1129
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:07,119
money?

1130
00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:09,839
>> Big number.

1131
00:55:09,839 --> 00:55:12,800
>> Yeah, that's I mean going forward I

1132
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,880
think

1133
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,960
Sheriff, how many do you have usually

1134
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,280
going out of the county?

1135
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,160
>> I've got 13 out of county right now with

1136
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,040
three in DC. So about 16.

1137
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,400
>> 16 out of county right now.

1138
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,559
>> 16 total out of county.

1139
00:55:28,559 --> 00:55:33,990
>> I would say changed

1140
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,640
around, but it's not only the cost of

1141
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,880
housing out of county, it's the cost

1142
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:39,599
transport.

1143
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:41,280
>> Transporting them. Housing and

1144
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,200
transporting them. Yeah. What's the

1145
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,359
average daily cost across

1146
00:55:45,359 --> 00:55:49,280
>> 5060 $60 a day

1147
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,160
>> per inmate to house them?

1148
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,319
>> $60 a day. I'm only repeating it so

1149
00:55:54,319 --> 00:55:56,160
people that are listening can hear.

1150
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:56,799
>> Yeah.

1151
00:55:56,799 --> 00:55:58,960
>> The month of June was spent almost

1152
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,119
$22,000

1153
00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:04,000
for inmates.

1154
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,839
And the sheriff just said in the month

1155
00:56:05,839 --> 00:56:09,040
of June they spent almost $22,000

1156
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,280
and for inmates housing and

1157
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:12,880
transportation

1158
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,280
out of the county

1159
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:16,480
>> just housing

1160
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,319
>> housing alone.

1161
00:56:18,319 --> 00:56:22,069
>> Yeah.

1162
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:25,040
Is there a motion to approve the GMP for

1163
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,559
the detention center?

1164
00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:27,119
>> So moved

1165
00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:28,000
>> and a second.

1166
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:28,480
>> Second.

1167
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:29,680
>> All in favor?

1168
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:30,480
>> I.

1169
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,319
>> None opposed.

1170
00:56:32,319 --> 00:56:34,240
Moving on now to the bond order

1171
00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:37,040
authorizing the issuance of 105 million

1172
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,489
general obligation school bonds.

1173
00:56:39,489 --> 00:56:40,144
[snorts]

1174
00:56:40,144 --> 00:56:40,640
[clears throat] Mr.

1175
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:52,390
>> King

1176
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,960
you want to read that.

1177
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,640
Chairman Lson introduce the following

1178
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,720
bond order copies of which have been

1179
00:56:58,720 --> 00:56:59,839
made available to the board of

1180
00:56:59,839 --> 00:57:01,359
commissioners. bond order authorizing

1181
00:57:01,359 --> 00:57:03,680
the issuance of $105

1182
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,160
million general obligation school bonds

1183
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,680
of the county of Jackson, North

1184
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,200
Carolina. Whereas the board of

1185
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,119
commissioners of the county of Jackson,

1186
00:57:11,119 --> 00:57:14,000
North Carolina, has uh ascertained and

1187
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,160
hereby determines that it is necessary

1188
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,319
to pay the capital cost of constructing,

1189
00:57:18,319 --> 00:57:20,400
improving, and renovating various school

1190
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,079
facilities for Jackson County Public

1191
00:57:22,079 --> 00:57:24,240
Schools, including but not limited to

1192
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,319
Smoky Mountain Middle School, Smoky

1193
00:57:26,319 --> 00:57:28,480
Mountain High School, Blue Ridge School,

1194
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,040
and the school bus bus garage. acquiring

1195
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,640
equipment and furnishings required

1196
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,559
therefore acquiring land right ofway and

1197
00:57:36,559 --> 00:57:39,119
easements in land if necessary and

1198
00:57:39,119 --> 00:57:40,559
constructing public infrastructure

1199
00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:42,960
improvements related thereto and whereas

1200
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,640
an application has been filed with the

1201
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,160
secretary of the local government

1202
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,559
commission of North Carolina requesting

1203
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:50,960
local government commission approval of

1204
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,040
the general obligation bonds here and

1205
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,440
after described as required by the local

1206
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,680
government bond act and the clerk of the

1207
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,760
board of commissioners has notified the

1208
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:00,720
board of commission commissioners that

1209
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,400
the application has been accepted for

1210
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,000
submission to the local government

1211
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,480
commission. Now therefore, be it ordered

1212
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:07,839
by the board of commissioners of the

1213
00:58:07,839 --> 00:58:09,225
county of Jackson, North Carolina

1214
00:58:09,225 --> 00:58:11,599
[snorts] as follows. Section one. In

1215
00:58:11,599 --> 00:58:13,200
order to raise the money required for

1216
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,680
the purposes described above, in

1217
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,920
addition to any funds which may be ava

1218
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,720
made available for such purpose from any

1219
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,960
other source, general obligation school

1220
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,440
bonds of the county are hereby

1221
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,000
authorized and will be issued pursuant

1222
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,240
to the local government finance act of

1223
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,799
North Carolina. The maximum aggregate

1224
00:58:32,799 --> 00:58:34,880
principal amount of such general

1225
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,960
obligation school bonds authorized by

1226
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,480
this order will be $105 million. Section

1227
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,720
two says taxes will be levied in the

1228
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,799
amount sufficient to pay the principal

1229
00:58:44,799 --> 00:58:46,559
and interest of the general obligation

1230
00:58:46,559 --> 00:58:48,720
school bond. Section three states a

1231
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,280
sworn statement of the county's debt has

1232
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:52,640
been filed with the clerk of the board

1233
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,359
of commissioners and is now open uh to

1234
00:58:55,359 --> 00:58:57,920
public inspection. Section four states

1235
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,720
the bond this bond will take effect when

1236
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,200
approved by the voters of the county at

1237
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,760
a referendum scheduled for November 3rd,

1238
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,280
2026.

1239
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,240
The foregoing bond was order. What? The

1240
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,720
foregoing bond order was introduced by

1241
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,319
the bo board of commissioners of the

1242
00:59:14,319 --> 00:59:16,559
county of Jackson, North Carolina this

1243
00:59:16,559 --> 00:59:23,200
day, 18th day of August 20 26. Um,

1244
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,440
I'll turn it over to Mr. King.

1245
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,440
Basically, this is stating that

1246
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,920
just make sure there's nothing else in

1247
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,880
um that we're putting a bond on the

1248
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,160
ballot for the

1249
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,200
balance of all the projects that have

1250
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,760
not already been allocated. So, we've

1251
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,400
already allocated the money for the

1252
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,160
middle school. We've already allocated

1253
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:52,720
the money for the Blueridge school

1254
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,991
improvements. They're not 100% of the

1255
00:59:55,991 --> 00:59:57,200
[snorts]

1256
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,160
projects, just the cafeteria or just the

1257
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,440
gymnasium at Blueridge School. Correct.

1258
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,359
>> But this isn't 100% for the middle

1259
01:00:05,359 --> 01:00:07,839
school either. We hadn't allocated.

1260
01:00:07,839 --> 01:00:10,319
>> We've allocated enough to build the

1261
01:00:10,319 --> 01:00:13,200
school. The school there's a little bit

1262
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,680
of a variance in that, but this would

1263
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:16,319
finalize

1264
01:00:16,319 --> 01:00:18,240
>> the school was the supposed to be the

1265
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,640
whole done deal.

1266
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,599
Ball fields, all that.

1267
01:00:23,599 --> 01:00:25,040
originally

1268
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:25,520
>> correct

1269
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,720
>> people need to understand that

1270
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,706
>> but the GMP has come in or not the GMP

1271
01:00:30,706 --> 01:00:31,280
[clears throat]

1272
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,160
the estimates have

1273
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,559
gone up

1274
01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:37,119
>> in here

1275
01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:39,359
>> and

1276
01:00:39,359 --> 01:00:42,079
what will happen is

1277
01:00:42,079 --> 01:00:45,040
if this is not passed or if the voters

1278
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,480
choose to not proceed with this $105

1279
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,040
million bond we will have a middle

1280
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:52,640
school

1281
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,440
We will have a Blue Ridge gymnasium, but

1282
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,000
we won't have a bus garage. Uh there

1283
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,960
will be no fields at the school.

1284
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,599
And

1285
01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:06,640
the cafeteria at Blige is is in

1286
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:07,119
question.

1287
01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:10,640
>> No, the middle school was it

1288
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,319
60 or was it 70 something?

1289
01:01:12,319 --> 01:01:14,400
>> I think it's 70. It's a little over

1290
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,119
>> 72 just for the school and if we

1291
01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:19,280
included the fields it was 10

1292
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,680
>> 108 was

1293
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,920
>> and I mean we're still working the

1294
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,280
process on trying to get it

1295
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:31,040
cheaper but you know this you know steel

1296
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,319
is expected to go up 6% a month. I mean

1297
01:01:34,319 --> 01:01:35,839
there just there's a lot of things you

1298
01:01:35,839 --> 01:01:36,160
know

1299
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,280
>> concrete is going up. So, you know, the

1300
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,599
more time it's spent on it, it may or

1301
01:01:41,599 --> 01:01:44,079
may not go be able to decrease. That's

1302
01:01:44,079 --> 01:01:45,040
what I'm saying.

1303
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,280
>> And the taxpayers need to realize that

1304
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,240
your taxes will go up if you vote for

1305
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:51,280
this.

1306
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:52,160
>> That's true.

1307
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,760
>> You know, if this goes on the um ballot

1308
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,079
and you vote for this, your taxes will

1309
01:01:58,079 --> 01:02:02,079
go up almost $50 for every hundred,000

1310
01:02:02,079 --> 01:02:05,280
and same if you want to say $150 for

1311
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,960
every 300,000. So it's it's about4ome

1312
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,000
dollars for every h 100,000. So people

1313
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,319
need to understand that your taxes will

1314
01:02:14,319 --> 01:02:17,119
go up again if you vote for this.

1315
01:02:17,119 --> 01:02:17,839
>> Yeah.

1316
01:02:17,839 --> 01:02:20,240
>> We also understand every time we put it

1317
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:21,440
off, [clears throat] it's just going to

1318
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:22,960
cost more in the future.

1319
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:24,480
>> I don't think we need a middle school.

1320
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,280
We need to fix up what we got.

1321
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,200
>> But where is that money going to come

1322
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,280
from? Without a bond, we don't have

1323
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,480
money to fix any of that up. Period.

1324
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:35,839
where where we're going to get promoting

1325
01:02:35,839 --> 01:02:36,400
them

1326
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,200
>> and then it may surpass what we've

1327
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,359
already allocated in terms of bringing

1328
01:02:41,359 --> 01:02:43,520
those schools up to where they need to

1329
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:44,480
be.

1330
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,359
>> Well, so I mean I sympathize with both

1331
01:02:47,359 --> 01:02:49,520
sides know it's going to it's going to

1332
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:50,960
hurt people

1333
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,839
>> but what we're looking at is the future

1334
01:02:53,839 --> 01:02:57,359
and without education Jackson County has

1335
01:02:57,359 --> 01:02:58,880
a very bleak future.

1336
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:00,640
>> Well, we'll still have education.

1337
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:04,079
They'll just be K through eight. Our our

1338
01:03:04,079 --> 01:03:05,440
schools are busting at the seams. Where

1339
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:06,720
you going to put them? We're gonna have

1340
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:06,960
to

1341
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,400
>> We don't have enough teachers the way it

1342
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:09,760
is. Who's going to teach them?

1343
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,200
>> I'm not going to argue that fact.

1344
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:12,559
>> Who's going to drive the buses? We don't

1345
01:03:12,559 --> 01:03:14,000
have enough bus drivers. Who's going to

1346
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,359
clean the schools? We don't have enough

1347
01:03:15,359 --> 01:03:16,640
custodians.

1348
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,559
>> And as the schools deteriorate, less and

1349
01:03:18,559 --> 01:03:20,880
less teachers want to work there. So, I

1350
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,799
mean, it's it's a double-edged sword. We

1351
01:03:22,799 --> 01:03:24,960
either do it or we don't. And we sit

1352
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,400
back and watch them fail. So

1353
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,720
>> where we have more of what's happened

1354
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,480
last years,

1355
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,359
>> which is half done projects that have

1356
01:03:35,359 --> 01:03:37,039
been put off and put off and put off

1357
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:38,960
>> and something that needs to be very

1358
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,720
clear is if the people are taxed to

1359
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:44,000
death like you're talking, it'll be up

1360
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,839
to them. I mean, they'll be the ones

1361
01:03:45,839 --> 01:03:49,920
making that decision. There's a lot of false information going

1362
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:50,960
around right now.

1363
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:52,880
>> It it's in their hands. It's not in our

1364
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,880
hands. a lot of false information

1365
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,559
stating that we're we're voting on it.

1366
01:03:56,559 --> 01:03:59,280
We're spending the $105 million, but the

1367
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:00,799
fact of the matter is they need to get a

1368
01:04:00,799 --> 01:04:03,119
little bit educated and look into this

1369
01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:05,520
stuff before they start posting things

1370
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,920
that's not accurate because if they're

1371
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:09,359
little bit educated, they would know

1372
01:04:09,359 --> 01:04:10,640
whether they want to vote for it or

1373
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:11,359
against it.

1374
01:04:11,359 --> 01:04:12,559
>> Right.

1375
01:04:12,559 --> 01:04:16,000
>> So, and it's up to the people. I mean,

1376
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,520
>> is it really up to five people sitting

1377
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,280
behind this desk? I agree. It's up to

1378
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,000
the people, but the people in they they

1379
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,079
work and live their own life,

1380
01:04:24,079 --> 01:04:26,319
>> you know, if they don't sit up here, the

1381
01:04:26,319 --> 01:04:27,680
majority of them.

1382
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,839
>> And when they go to the poll and they

1383
01:04:29,839 --> 01:04:31,280
see something on there for the kids,

1384
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:32,240
they're going to think, "Oh, great."

1385
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:33,760
They're going to vote for it and not

1386
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,520
realize how much your taxes are going to

1387
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:41,990
increase. And that's what I worry about.

1388
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,240
» Okay. Uh the application has been

1389
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,000
submitted to local government commission

1390
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,000
and accepted

1391
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,559
to move forward to the commission and

1392
01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:53,440
what I worked up for you is what the

1393
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,559
impact will be on the taxes.

1394
01:04:56,559 --> 01:04:59,119
The

1395
01:04:59,119 --> 01:05:00,799
local government commission required you

1396
01:05:00,799 --> 01:05:03,520
to do it on a 20-year deal with a safe

1397
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:08,950
harbor interest rate of 5.344%.

1398
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,119
So that's what the application has to be

1399
01:05:11,119 --> 01:05:14,000
filed on. So

1400
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:18,799
that would bring the per $100,000 to

1401
01:05:18,799 --> 01:05:22,240
5260. But over the 20-year period, you

1402
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:26,720
can see where the tax rate starts at 526

1403
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:31,520
and at year 20 it decreases to 2.2

1404
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,975
cents. Yeah, most of us will be dead by

1405
01:05:33,975 --> 01:05:37,349
[laughter]

1406
01:05:37,359 --> 01:05:40,480
» I mean even even in year three you're

1407
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:44,720
going to 4.89. So it decreases every

1408
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:45,599
year.

1409
01:05:45,599 --> 01:05:47,920
>> Yeah. Yeah. That's the good side of it.

1410
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:49,119
But right now y'all are going to be

1411
01:05:49,119 --> 01:05:52,960
paying out the nose. If now it's $5260

1412
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:54,319
for every hundred,000.

1413
01:05:54,319 --> 01:05:57,359
>> But that that that actual amount will

1414
01:05:57,359 --> 01:06:00,000
depend on what the we sell the bonds

1415
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,200
for. Right now they're selling from 3.5

1416
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,280
to 3.7%.

1417
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,440
So it could be a lot less than this.

1418
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,640
>> This is just the highest maximum amount.

1419
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,400
>> Well, and you know something that we

1420
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,280
discussed was doing two separate bonds.

1421
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,760
One you raising a concern about the

1422
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,200
middle school which is is a I mean valid

1423
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,480
concern for sure. Um

1424
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:25,920
you know we could have had two separate

1425
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,520
bonds. One fix the schools that we had.

1426
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:33,359
>> Mhm. Um and then one for the to finish

1427
01:06:33,359 --> 01:06:35,359
up the middle school and you know

1428
01:06:35,359 --> 01:06:37,599
looking back on it that might have been

1429
01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:38,880
what we should have done but the

1430
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,960
consensus was that we

1431
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,599
>> meeting was to do it together do nothing

1432
01:06:43,599 --> 01:06:44,079
>> um

1433
01:06:44,079 --> 01:06:45,520
>> but we also didn't know that the

1434
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:46,880
building of the middle school was going

1435
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,400
to jump from

1436
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,359
>> 50 60 million tound

1437
01:06:51,359 --> 01:06:53,680
>> we did have 109

1438
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:54,720
whatever it is

1439
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,920
>> it is very frustrating I mean

1440
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,799
>> within a year it jumped that It it's

1441
01:07:00,799 --> 01:07:03,119
very frustrating

1442
01:07:03,119 --> 01:07:06,240
to be given the numbers,

1443
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,640
you know, originally and which it was

1444
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:12,400
just estimates and then a year later or

1445
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,319
whatever it was less than a year when we

1446
01:07:14,319 --> 01:07:17,760
had our joint meeting was likeund.

1447
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,160
It was no it was triple. It was way

1448
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,319
upund

1449
01:07:22,319 --> 01:07:23,520
>> 30 something.

1450
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,981
>> Do you double your prices on funeral?

1451
01:07:25,981 --> 01:07:27,119
[laughter]

1452
01:07:27,119 --> 01:07:31,760
>> No. No. But uh you know

1453
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,599
I don't know where we where they went

1454
01:07:33,599 --> 01:07:36,559
wrong. I I feel like we have been led

1455
01:07:36,559 --> 01:07:39,359
on. It's

1456
01:07:39,359 --> 01:07:41,839
and it's it really [snorts] gets on my

1457
01:07:41,839 --> 01:07:43,760
nerves that we have been because now

1458
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,520
we're backed into a corner and we have

1459
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,599
to make a decision

1460
01:07:47,599 --> 01:07:50,880
u you know as we see fit and then that's

1461
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,640
if it does go on the ballot then the

1462
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,280
voter will also have to make the

1463
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:59,200
decision as they see fit. Um,

1464
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:00,880
and it's just one of those things.

1465
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:02,480
>> I mean, if I could talk to every single

1466
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,880
voter and let them know, if we knew that

1467
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,280
we every single voter would be aware

1468
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,599
before they got to the polls of what the

1469
01:08:09,599 --> 01:08:12,079
repercussions were, then and they still

1470
01:08:12,079 --> 01:08:14,319
voted for it, then okay, I'm all for it

1471
01:08:14,319 --> 01:08:16,080
because I'm for that, but they're not

1472
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:17,600
going to know.

1473
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,679
>> Now,

1474
01:08:19,679 --> 01:08:21,679
have we approved the verbiage of what's

1475
01:08:21,679 --> 01:08:23,920
going to be on the ballot on the actual

1476
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,279
ballot? That'll be the next

1477
01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:27,679
>> the next resolution that's on your

1478
01:08:27,679 --> 01:08:28,799
agenda right now.

1479
01:08:28,799 --> 01:08:30,719
>> Probably vote for this or taxes will go

1480
01:08:30,719 --> 01:08:33,199
down in 20 years

1481
01:08:33,199 --> 01:08:35,679
>> on that. Is there is it show a clear

1482
01:08:35,679 --> 01:08:39,040
increase on the next one?

1483
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:39,759
>> What what is

1484
01:08:39,759 --> 01:08:42,080
>> the disclosure will show the increase

1485
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:43,759
and it'll be posted tomorrow on the

1486
01:08:43,759 --> 01:08:44,880
website.

1487
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:48,390
>> So I mean

1488
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,560
» people people do need to know. I know,

1489
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,400
but it's it's just like the swimming

1490
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,319
pool. And that's one thing that keeps

1491
01:08:54,319 --> 01:08:57,600
sticking in my mind. People voted for it

1492
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,640
>> and it it was done. But who did they

1493
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,040
blame? The commissioners. They blamed

1494
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:04,239
the commissioners.

1495
01:09:04,239 --> 01:09:05,920
>> Well, and that's fine.

1496
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:07,759
>> That that is the truth. I heard it all

1497
01:09:07,759 --> 01:09:08,319
over.

1498
01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:10,719
>> But you can't sit here and go, "Well,

1499
01:09:10,719 --> 01:09:12,640
I'm not going to vote on this because I

1500
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:13,920
don't want to be blamed for it."

1501
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,440
>> Well, that's called history. I'm just

1502
01:09:15,440 --> 01:09:16,480
looking at history.

1503
01:09:16,480 --> 01:09:18,159
>> But you you're you're worried about

1504
01:09:18,159 --> 01:09:20,400
something. Well, they don't know

1505
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,719
thinking of well and that's fine.

1506
01:09:22,719 --> 01:09:24,640
>> And that's where it goes back to, you

1507
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,480
know, the false information that's going

1508
01:09:26,480 --> 01:09:28,640
around on Facebook and everywhere else

1509
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,400
is that we're actually voting on the

1510
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:31,279
money.

1511
01:09:31,279 --> 01:09:32,719
>> If somebody would get on there and

1512
01:09:32,719 --> 01:09:34,640
actually put on there what we're

1513
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,960
actually voting for and actually educate

1514
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,600
the people on how to vote, then that it

1515
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,000
would make sense. But the stuff that I'm

1516
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:43,679
reading don't make a lick of sense to me

1517
01:09:43,679 --> 01:09:45,920
because we're not voting on the money.

1518
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,679
And just to be straight honest, I don't

1519
01:09:47,679 --> 01:09:49,359
know how I'll vote as a voter in

1520
01:09:49,359 --> 01:09:51,839
November, but and just like for you,

1521
01:09:51,839 --> 01:09:53,359
you'll be voting for it. We're all going

1522
01:09:53,359 --> 01:09:54,560
to be voting for it.

1523
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,400
>> Yeah. And ultimately, isn't it the

1524
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,960
voters's responsibility to educate

1525
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,520
themselves on what they're voting on?

1526
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,600
You know, if if they're not willing to

1527
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,840
take that responsibility

1528
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:07,840
then, I mean, how do you make them? You

1529
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:08,400
can't.

1530
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:09,760
>> In politics,

1531
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,199
>> you have to offer them choice. In

1532
01:10:11,199 --> 01:10:12,800
politics, there's been a thousand times

1533
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:16,239
I wished I had a vote as a as a voter on

1534
01:10:16,239 --> 01:10:18,560
some sort of object. And I, you know, I

1535
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,920
thought this was a no-brainer. And I'm

1536
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,239
with you. It may very well fail because

1537
01:10:24,239 --> 01:10:26,960
of the increase, tax increase. Do I want

1538
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:30,080
tax increase? Absolutely not. Uh because

1539
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,159
I know how much I've already figured it

1540
01:10:32,159 --> 01:10:34,320
up on how much I'm going to have to pay

1541
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:37,840
extra. But I think it's it's worth

1542
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:41,280
giving the community the option

1543
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:44,880
to say yes or no and then it won't be

1544
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:46,719
your fault. It won't be our fault. It

1545
01:10:46,719 --> 01:10:48,719
will be their fault.

1546
01:10:48,719 --> 01:10:51,654
The ones that voted yes and

1547
01:10:51,654 --> 01:10:53,280
[clears throat] there's nothing that

1548
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,120
>> that we can do about it. And I do agree

1549
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,040
with you. The former commissioners, they

1550
01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:01,679
did get the blame for the sure did. Um

1551
01:11:01,679 --> 01:11:05,280
but there again, the people voted for it

1552
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:08,400
and they do need to be educated. Um, so

1553
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,159
whatever we have to do to get people

1554
01:11:10,159 --> 01:11:12,960
educated, send out mailers, whatever we

1555
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:17,679
need to do, but I agree with you on that people need do need to be educated

1556
01:11:17,679 --> 01:11:20,560
on what they're voting on.

1557
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,000
>> They'll be published in the paper as

1558
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,400
well.

1559
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:25,600
>> I mean,

1560
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,840
>> well, well, they have to. I mean, if we

1561
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:28,640
pay for

1562
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,040
>> this is a this is what they'll get and

1563
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,600
it'll have the exact wordage. It won't

1564
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,960
be uh a news story that they publish.

1565
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,000
It'll be what we give them.

1566
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:41,440
They can't just publish what they want

1567
01:11:41,440 --> 01:11:43,840
when we give them a a letter that they

1568
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:49,750
have to publish.

1569
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:51,679
» Yeah, I I agree. You know, they're the

1570
01:11:51,679 --> 01:11:52,960
Blue Ridge Schools.

1571
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:54,800
>> Then where does the money from come from

1572
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,000
to fund the teachers and the gyms and

1573
01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:59,440
the buses

1574
01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:00,480
>> and buy the buses?

1575
01:12:00,480 --> 01:12:01,600
>> You're talking about the new school and

1576
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:02,320
the middle school.

1577
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,080
>> Yeah.

1578
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,480
>> This goes on and on. Well, the seventh,

1579
01:12:06,480 --> 01:12:08,080
sixth, seventh, and eighth graders from

1580
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,080
the other schools will be moved to the

1581
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,719
middle school. But there again, I do

1582
01:12:12,719 --> 01:12:15,120
agree with you. The power bill, the you

1583
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,159
know, the upkeep, that'll be something

1584
01:12:18,159 --> 01:12:21,600
that you you guys will have to come up

1585
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:25,280
with. Not me, but assuming it passes.

1586
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,159
>> Yeah, assuming it passes. But um

1587
01:12:28,159 --> 01:12:29,280
>> you're going to have to reduce your

1588
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:32,239
finger wheels any [laughter]

1589
01:12:32,239 --> 01:12:35,600
donate money.

1590
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,880
>> If I had it, I would.

1591
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,440
But our schools are outdated very much.

1592
01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:43,840
So we want the existing schools. I think

1593
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,320
we can all agree on that that we need to

1594
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:51,040
get them, you know, up up to shape.

1595
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,040
>> And if it was my choice, I would say the

1596
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:54,640
state would allow us to have a penny

1597
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:56,640
sales tax increase. That way it's based

1598
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:58,960
on usage and you're getting captures

1599
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,280
from tourism, not just locals. It's it's

1600
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:01,600
a

1601
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:02,719
>> Yep.

1602
01:13:02,719 --> 01:13:05,120
>> a a better way of

1603
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,360
>> earning money.

1604
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:08,880
>> Well, think about the nickel.

1605
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:09,360
>> Yeah.

1606
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:13,280
>> You know, the penny is no longer. So,

1607
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,640
all that money just either goes into

1608
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:20,080
wherever or is just disbanded.

1609
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:25,120
>> Where's GS15C sitting now? like 501 115C

1610
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:29,679
501 that governs sales tax for schools,

1611
01:13:29,679 --> 01:13:31,520
but I think it's geared towards teachers

1612
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:32,719
and

1613
01:13:32,719 --> 01:13:35,520
>> it's it's toward capital.

1614
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:40,630
>> The 501

1615
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,320
I'll I'll look it up again, but I was

1616
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,159
thinking the 500 or 501 was geared

1617
01:13:44,159 --> 01:13:46,960
towards teacher salaries for certain

1618
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:50,080
districts of less than 100,000 people.

1619
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,560
>> I'll look at that.

1620
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,960
the sales tax we get on based our

1621
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:56,960
capital

1622
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,440
>> right this is a special school district

1623
01:13:59,440 --> 01:14:00,400
tax

1624
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:03,750
>> basically

1625
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:08,560
» and also I want to address the fact

1626
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:10,719
that

1627
01:14:10,719 --> 01:14:13,600
you know we've been

1628
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:17,520
I've seen so much stuff people sent me I

1629
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,199
don't even have social media but people

1630
01:14:19,199 --> 01:14:21,760
send me screenshots of stuff that This

1631
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:23,679
board has done this, this board has done

1632
01:14:23,679 --> 01:14:26,800
that, county manager's done this, county

1633
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:30,080
manager done that. The simple fact about

1634
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:31,840
it is

1635
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,640
every piece of property

1636
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:37,600
that we that the county and I say we the

1637
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,760
county has purchased has come before

1638
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:41,679
this board

1639
01:14:41,679 --> 01:14:44,159
and to my knowledge it's been unanimous,

1640
01:14:44,159 --> 01:14:47,920
right? every time every project that's

1641
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,000
been done

1642
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:54,159
has come to this board that and it's

1643
01:14:54,159 --> 01:14:55,600
been pretty much unanimous. The only

1644
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,679
thing that wasn't unanimous was our

1645
01:14:57,679 --> 01:15:00,560
budget. I feel like you know this board

1646
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,480
we've been on the same page on several

1647
01:15:02,480 --> 01:15:05,600
things and

1648
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,679
I don't know where the misinformation is

1649
01:15:07,679 --> 01:15:10,800
coming from where it's but it's just

1650
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,040
unreal. It's not Mark Leon. It's not

1651
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,719
Todd Bryson. And this this whole board, has voted on

1652
01:15:16,719 --> 01:15:18,640
everything,

1653
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,719
all the projects, all the properties,

1654
01:15:20,719 --> 01:15:22,000
everything that we have purchased

1655
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,320
>> going up to the amount it went up to. It

1656
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,960
wasn't unanimous. It was prior to that,

1657
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,159
>> but not after that.

1658
01:15:28,159 --> 01:15:29,760
>> Correct. I'm I'm talking about other

1659
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,239
properties and other other projects that

1660
01:15:32,239 --> 01:15:35,440
we've we've done outside of this. And

1661
01:15:35,440 --> 01:15:37,280
>> many of them have come in under budget.

1662
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,679
>> Yeah. I mean, and it's good things for

1663
01:15:39,679 --> 01:15:41,360
the county. We're we're we've been

1664
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,120
behind for years

1665
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:46,080
>> creating revenue streams that were never

1666
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:47,280
there before.

1667
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:47,920
>> Yeah.

1668
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:48,880
>> So

1669
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:52,480
>> to help offset the costs of

1670
01:15:52,480 --> 01:15:57,520
and this is to me I mean my vote on this

1671
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,880
side this is a win for

1672
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:04,080
every student in this county. And

1673
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:05,199
>> yeah,

1674
01:16:05,199 --> 01:16:09,120
>> and just so the public is aware.

1675
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,600
Are you guys able

1676
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,239
to authorize a purchase of any property

1677
01:16:14,239 --> 01:16:16,159
without our consent?

1678
01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:17,520
>> No.

1679
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,760
>> Okay.

1680
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:23,040
Have you ever authorized a purchase

1681
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:24,400
without our consent?

1682
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,560
>> No.

1683
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,199
>> Yeah. So, or other board the other

1684
01:16:29,199 --> 01:16:30,480
board's consent.

1685
01:16:30,480 --> 01:16:32,800
>> Darlene's case. [laughter]

1686
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,920
Um, so you know, I really wish people

1687
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:39,199
would quit getting on Facebook and

1688
01:16:39,199 --> 01:16:41,120
believing what they hear and get in here

1689
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:42,800
and sit down in one of those chairs and

1690
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:47,920
actually listen uh instead of u

1691
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:49,679
vote these three out and I'm not even

1692
01:16:49,679 --> 01:16:52,000
running for commissioner. [laughter]

1693
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:53,120
I'm done.

1694
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,760
>> Yeah. Is there a motion on the bond

1695
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:59,280
order authorizing uh the issuance of 5

1696
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:06,149
million general obligation school bonds?

1697
01:17:06,159 --> 01:17:07,520
» So move

1698
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,080
>> and second.

1699
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:11,760
>> All in favor? I

1700
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:13,280
>> I

1701
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:16,400
>> Okay, one opposed. Motion carries. Uh,

1702
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:20,560
moving on now to the resolution R26-13,

1703
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,320
the bond order for school bonds and

1704
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,199
setting the public hearing. And Mr. G.

1705
01:17:25,199 --> 01:17:26,800
Okay,

1706
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,280
I'll read this one as resolution of the

1707
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,840
county of Jacksonville regarding bond

1708
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:33,600
order authorizing the issuance of

1709
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:35,600
general obligation school bond setting

1710
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,440
public hearing their own and directing

1711
01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:39,360
publication of notice of said public

1712
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:43,120
hearing. bond order entitled bond order

1713
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,080
authorizing the issuance of 105 million

1714
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,719
general education school bond of the

1715
01:17:48,719 --> 01:17:50,960
county of Jackson North Carolina has

1716
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:52,560
been introduced at a meeting of the

1717
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:54,480
board of commissioners of the county of

1718
01:17:54,480 --> 01:17:57,199
Jackson North Carolina on the 18th day

1719
01:17:57,199 --> 01:18:00,239
of August 206 whereas the board of

1720
01:18:00,239 --> 01:18:02,400
commissioners desire to provide for the

1721
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,880
holding of public hearing of their own

1722
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,840
September 1st 2026 and the submission of

1723
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:09,840
a statement of debt and a statement

1724
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,719
disclosure in connection therewith as

1725
01:18:12,719 --> 01:18:15,440
required on local government the local

1726
01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:18,320
government bond act. Neither will be it

1727
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,320
resolved by the board of commissioner of

1728
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,159
the county of Jackson, North Carolina at

1729
01:18:22,159 --> 01:18:24,719
the public hearing on said bond order

1730
01:18:24,719 --> 01:18:27,520
shall be held on the 1st of September

1731
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,840
2026 on the justice administration

1732
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,480
building room A20141

1733
01:18:32,480 --> 01:18:34,800
Grand South Cove Road, North Carolina at

1734
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:38,960
the at or about 6:30 p.m. Further

1735
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,040
resolved that the clerk board of

1736
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,600
commissioners is hereby directed to call

1737
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:45,920
copy of said bond order to be published

1738
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,080
with the notice of such hearing on the

1739
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:51,840
form prescribed by law in a newspaper of

1740
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,480
general circulation in the county on or

1741
01:18:54,480 --> 01:18:58,000
before the 26th day of August 2026. Be

1742
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,080
it further be resolved that before the

1743
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,880
public hearing the finance director is

1744
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,600
hereby directed to file sworn statement

1745
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:07,120
of debt with the local government

1746
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:08,640
commission and the clerk of the board of

1747
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,920
commissioners in court to set 159-55 of

1748
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,159
the North Carolina Zimmerman statutes

1749
01:19:14,159 --> 01:19:16,560
file board of commissioners and local

1750
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:18,960
government commission of North Carolina

1751
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,040
and post online statement of disclosure

1752
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:25,040
in accordance with section 159-551A

1753
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,440
of the general statutes of North Inana

1754
01:19:27,440 --> 01:19:29,280
be it further resolve that the

1755
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,360
resolution shall become effective on the

1756
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:36,950
date of it adoption

1757
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:41,520
that is there a motion for R26-13

1758
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,080
uh bond order for school [snorts]

1759
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:47,280
bronze and setting public hearing on

1760
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,159
September 1st.

1761
01:19:50,159 --> 01:19:51,520
>> What time? 6

1762
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:55,669
6:30 p.m.

1763
01:19:55,679 --> 01:19:57,920
» at 6:20.

1764
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,239
>> It can be. We have others that day, too.

1765
01:20:00,239 --> 01:20:01,920
So 6:30.

1766
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:03,280
>> Okay. So that's the reason it says on or

1767
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:03,840
about.

1768
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,040
>> That's what I order.

1769
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:08,000
>> Okay.

1770
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:09,840
Is there a motion?

1771
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:10,400
>> Move

1772
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:11,760
>> and a second.

1773
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,920
>> Second. Madam clerk.

1774
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:14,960
>> Commissioner Hooper.

1775
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:15,360
>> No.

1776
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:16,400
>> Commissioner Bryson?

1777
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:16,800
>> Yes.

1778
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:17,920
>> Commissioner Smith?

1779
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:18,400
>> Yes.

1780
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:19,440
>> Chairman Lson?

1781
01:20:19,440 --> 01:20:21,600
>> Yes. Moving on [clears throat] now to a

1782
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,320
special event uh youth arts festival hay

1783
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:30,709
ride ordinance [snorts] OS or O2026-01

1784
01:20:30,719 --> 01:20:33,920
Mr. King. So this is a ordinance

1785
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,640
carrying the traffic for the hay ride

1786
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:39,520
hayride sorry for the youth arts

1787
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,880
festival on Saturday September 19 2026

1788
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:47,440
from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 pm uh from WBI to

1789
01:20:47,440 --> 01:20:51,520
Haywood Road and to Green Energy Park um

1790
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:54,800
and it's just our annual hay ride. So

1791
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,719
>> is there a motion for the hay ride?

1792
01:20:56,719 --> 01:20:57,280
>> So moved

1793
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,760
>> and a second.

1794
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:01,040
>> Third.

1795
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:02,080
>> Mr. Smith.

1796
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:02,480
>> Yes.

1797
01:21:02,480 --> 01:21:03,520
>> Commissioner Bryson,

1798
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:03,920
>> yes.

1799
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:04,880
>> Commissioner Hooper,

1800
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:05,199
>> yes.

1801
01:21:05,199 --> 01:21:06,239
>> Chairman Leson,

1802
01:21:06,239 --> 01:21:07,520
>> yes.

1803
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,679
>> Uh, and then lastly this evening, we

1804
01:21:09,679 --> 01:21:12,719
have the data center moratorum ordinance

1805
01:21:12,719 --> 01:21:16,070
02026-02.

1806
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:17,920
Mr. Post

1807
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:19,920
finishing strong tonight.

1808
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:20,880
>> Yes, sir.

1809
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:22,159
>> Five minutes.

1810
01:21:22,159 --> 01:21:24,960
>> I have

1811
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:28,239
maximum minimum [laughter]

1812
01:21:28,239 --> 01:21:30,719
>> at the very most.

1813
01:21:30,719 --> 01:21:33,280
So, I know we've talked about this uh

1814
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,080
previously at the work session calling

1815
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,239
for public hearing on this a few weeks

1816
01:21:38,239 --> 01:21:41,199
ago, but uh really this document sets

1817
01:21:41,199 --> 01:21:45,440
out the the legal um standard for how we

1818
01:21:45,440 --> 01:21:48,320
call for moratoriums. And part of what

1819
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,400
we do is we describe the moratorum. Uh

1820
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:51,840
it's going to it's supposed to be a year

1821
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,960
moratorum if approved tonight starting

1822
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,120
tonight on the 18th and running till

1823
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,520
August 18th, 2027.

1824
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:00,960
Within that, we also have some

1825
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:02,639
benchmarks that we've identified of the

1826
01:22:02,639 --> 01:22:04,639
types of um activities that will go on

1827
01:22:04,639 --> 01:22:06,480
and the expectation of why we're going

1828
01:22:06,480 --> 01:22:07,920
to what we're going to do over this year

1829
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,480
period as we explore and understand

1830
01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:12,320
better the impacts of data centers and

1831
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,880
what the county's response might be to

1832
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,360
those. So, it involves uh doing some

1833
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,520
hearings a board level for general

1834
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,600
comments. We'll be bringing some

1835
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,080
experts, at least one that that has some

1836
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,480
background in data centers specifically

1837
01:22:26,480 --> 01:22:29,600
uh to speak to the boards and um and

1838
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:33,360
then you know expect that to happen uh

1839
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:35,199
simultaneously to the planning board

1840
01:22:35,199 --> 01:22:37,199
reviewing what other ordinances are out

1841
01:22:37,199 --> 01:22:38,800
there in North Carolina, what other

1842
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:40,480
communities are doing and at the

1843
01:22:40,480 --> 01:22:42,400
beginning of the year starting to talk

1844
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,480
about the drafting of regulations and

1845
01:22:44,480 --> 01:22:47,520
certainly by um the um August deadline

1846
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,760
for the planning board and the uh and

1847
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:51,120
the board commissioners to hold public

1848
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:53,360
hearings for considerations of possible

1849
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:56,320
regulations that may be next year.

1850
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:57,120
>> This be next year.

1851
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:57,600
>> Good deal.

1852
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,480
>> Yeah. Moving in. So that's the basis of

1853
01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:04,159
the of the uh of the of the moratorum.

1854
01:23:04,159 --> 01:23:06,000
And what this says we won't be issuing

1855
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:09,679
any permits related to development um of

1856
01:23:09,679 --> 01:23:13,360
u uses for data center as defined

1857
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:16,239
herein. Uh so that's the basis of the of

1858
01:23:16,239 --> 01:23:18,159
the moratorum. I'll be happy to answer

1859
01:23:18,159 --> 01:23:20,327
any questions that the board may have.

1860
01:23:20,327 --> 01:23:20,719
[snorts]

1861
01:23:20,719 --> 01:23:23,040
>> I know there's a couple places in the

1862
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:24,560
county already that has a data center.

1863
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,040
Boston West is one if they were to

1864
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,840
relocate to another.

1865
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:32,560
So I think you know

1866
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:34,560
what why the mortorium is probably

1867
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:36,000
really appropriate in this day and age

1868
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,239
is once you get a data center into your

1869
01:23:38,239 --> 01:23:40,320
jurisdiction you know they that that's

1870
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:41,679
when we get into this issue that we've

1871
01:23:41,679 --> 01:23:43,840
had before about um creating

1872
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:45,840
nonconformities and is it a down zoning

1873
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:47,120
and do we have the ability to make

1874
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,040
changes to that. So right now we're not

1875
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:50,480
aware of and Baltimore west is actually

1876
01:23:50,480 --> 01:23:52,320
in Webster's zoning jurisdiction right

1877
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:53,679
now not in the county's zoning

1878
01:23:53,679 --> 01:23:55,679
jurisdiction. That's why I think we have

1879
01:23:55,679 --> 01:23:58,239
some space to to to have an impact on

1880
01:23:58,239 --> 01:23:59,840
this issue. That's different than

1881
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:01,360
>> Yeah.

1882
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,120
>> Actually, last time I knew they were out

1883
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,679
still out in Dillsboro out there.

1884
01:24:05,679 --> 01:24:07,679
>> Okay, we can check.

1885
01:24:07,679 --> 01:24:10,239
>> Yeah.

1886
01:24:10,239 --> 01:24:12,639
>> Any additional questions for Mr. Poston?

1887
01:24:12,639 --> 01:24:12,719
If

1888
01:24:12,719 --> 01:24:15,440
>> not, I'll seek a motion for approval.

1889
01:24:15,440 --> 01:24:16,320
>> I'll move

1890
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:17,199
>> and a second.

1891
01:24:17,199 --> 01:24:19,440
>> Second, Madam Clerk.

1892
01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:20,400
>> Commissioner Hooper.

1893
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:20,800
>> Yes.

1894
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,159
>> Commissioner Brson? Yes.

1895
01:24:22,159 --> 01:24:23,199
>> Commissioner Smith?

1896
01:24:23,199 --> 01:24:23,520
>> Yes.

1897
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:24,719
>> Chairman Lson?

1898
01:24:24,719 --> 01:24:25,760
>> Yes.

1899
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,840
>> Thank you very much.

1900
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,480
There's no need for close session and uh

1901
01:24:30,480 --> 01:24:32,480
I guess no comments from the press this

1902
01:24:32,480 --> 01:24:35,199
evening or questions. Uh quick reminder,

1903
01:24:35,199 --> 01:24:38,560
we have a several

1904
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:41,679
uh public hearings on September 1st uh

1905
01:24:41,679 --> 01:24:43,840
work session on September 1st at 7 and

1906
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:45,520
then our regularly scheduled meeting

1907
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,000
September 15th. With no further

1908
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,000
business, is there a motion to adjurnn?

1909
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:51,600
So move and a second.

1910
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,360
>> All in favor? I.

1911
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:57,600
>> None opposed. Oregon.