first public hearing to order. Uh the
purpose of the public hearing is to
receive public comment on the
consideration of the proposed community
development block grant disaster relief
funding. Um with that, I'll turn it over
to Mr. Poston.
>> [snorts]
» Good evening. Um the for this public uh
understanding the community block uh
community develop block grant fund that
we're going after is a disaster relief
fund. Uh and we expect them to um
request a little over a million dollars
for help with uh with the uh
construction of the new portion of the
greenway and um some related items to
the damage that was caused from
Hurricane Helen. The reason why we
qualify for this grant is because we are
in a Helen affected county and disaster
county. Um and in order to apply for for
these types of grants, we need to hold
two public hearings. wanted to announce
our intent which is tonight's the
purpose of tonight's hearing and then in
September 1st we'll we'll talk about the
grant specifics uh with the board uh and
then have the board uh uh review that
grant application uh proposal uh so
tonight is just to hear public comments
from the public about that we do have
some
» um first up this evening for the
greenway expansion or for this CBDG
grant is Jennifer Hinton. Jennifer,
» thank you for having us tonight. One of
the things that I love about living in
Jackson County is the abundance of
outdoor spaces, both land and water to
reimburse myself in. I've worked, raised
my family, and kept myself healthy in
our country's our county's outdoor
resources. Um, one of these is our
beloved Jackson County Greenway. I use
the greenway as a nature immersion to
meet up with friends, to walk my dog,
and as a connector to cycling to WCU's
campus. For me, it is one of the places
that I access, but for others, it was
their main place to access. The fact
that the Greenway is paved, has abundant
shade, and has seating makes all the
difference in the lives of many of our
county's older adults, individuals with
sensory and mobility impairments, and
adoptive equipment, and families with
young children, especially those with
strollers. Um, and for some, it's one of
the only safe and accessible spaces in
our county to get immersed outdoors in
nature. Um, well, I'd like to confirm
that I am not a spokesperson for Western
Carolina University or speaking on their
behalf on this topic. Uh, my status as a
faculty member in the recreational
therapy program there with decades of
teaching and completing scholarship on
the benefits of nature and
adventure-based therapy uh does overlap
here. And part of my job is to deeply
understand the benefits of engaging with
the natural world and to teach the
aspiring recreational therapists to
understand that and to apply it. And the
research clearly shows ways to engage in
outdoors to boost our physical health,
our psychological well-being, and our
ability to cope with stress. And the
designation of the Jackson County
Greenway is the first and currently the
only accessible certified nature and
forest therapy trail in the country
undermines the importance of this space
for all of our county's residents and
guests and especially those who are most
vulnerable. The question I get most as a
board member for Friends of the Jackson
County Greenways is when is it getting
longer? Uh we're so excited that this
goal is in reach and that we'll be able
to expand the greenway and provide more
opportunities for everyone. The greenway
gets heavy usage. There are days out
there that it's hard to park. We have so
many folks that are out there. And I
just want to thank you for all that you
continue to do to support the greenway
and its expansion. It is giving back to
our community every day and the wellness
of our residents and I appreciate it.
Thank you.
>> Thank you.
Next this evening we have excuse
[clears throat] me Alexander Harris.
[clears throat]
» Good evening everyone. Um thank you for
the chance to share my thoughts about
the greenway and its place of importance
in Jackson County. to give everyone a
little background about myself. Um, I
serve as one of the development officers
at Western Carolina University and I'm
on the board for the Friends of Jackson
County Greenways, but I am not here as a
spokesperson for Western Carolina
University. My my views are my own. Um,
so as a resident of Jackson County, I
often walk on the greenway with with my
dogs as way to relax, see friends, talk
to neighbors, even have meetings. Um,
when when when when I walk on the
greenway, I see people of all ages. I
see kids, you know, learning to ride
their bikes. I see the elderly walking
with their their walkers at their own
pace and really everything in between.
Thanks to um Michael's staff and and his
team, their their uh counters, we have a
pretty good estimate that there is going
to be around 160,000 users of the
greenway this year. Now, other than it
being a a public good for community and
health, there are significant economic
benefits, um there's been a few studies
done that estimate three to four dollars
um generate generated through the
greenway for every dollar spent on the
greenway, excuse me, um through tourism
and economic activity. We've done
extensive surveys of Greenway users um
most of which are uh repeat users
monthly if not weekly and um for anyone
who who is interested in in having it,
we have on the record that it is the
best investment the county has ever
made. That's on video.
Um, an expanded greenway not only makes
sense in terms of the people supporting
the people that make Jackson County
home, it's an asset that will uh that there's no very little cost
implication for residents and a huge
opportunity um in terms of travel, in
terms of community events, in terms of
engagement. Um, and it's a space to
offer uh amenities for for the community
as a whole. So, thank you for all you do
to support the greenway. And if I see
you out there, please say hello.
>> Thank you, Alexander. Uh, with no
further um person signed up, is there a
motion to close public hearing
agreement?
>> Second.
>> All in favor?
>> None opposed.
>> Now call to order our second public
hearing. Uh the purpose of this public
hearing is to receive public comment on
the consideration of the proposed
ordinance imposing a moratorum on data
developments development of data
centers. Mr. Post again
» good evening again. Um, tonight we're
holding the public hearing as required
for us for the board to be able to
consider a moratorum uh on the
construction of the creation of new data
centers within Jackson County. Um, we
highlighted this at the at the uh
previous meeting when we called for the
public hearing, but we do have a draft
ordinance that's been online that talks
about timelines. Uh, this would be a
proposed year moratorum. It'll have the
county opportunity to look into the
issue more broadly. make sure that
regulations that we would create, if you
choose to create regulations, uh the
board would choose to adopt those
regulations, give us time to have those
conversations as a community and come up
with the best possible set of
regulations uh for Jackson County. Uh
I'll be happy to answer any questions
the board may have.
>> Any questions from the board?
» One person signed up for u to publicly speak and that's Chris Hamlet.
Chris.
[laughter]
[clears throat]
Hello, I'm Chris Hamlet from Silva.
And as far as the what you want to may
want to consider when you're thinking
about any sort of moratorium on data
centers is and this goes back to a lot
of the public coverage on them right now
is a distinction between AI data centers
and nonAI data centers.
As an as a reference, a average house in
our in our end of the uh state uses 10
to 12 10 to 12,000 kilowatt hours
annually. A grocery store or an old
Walmart like what we have in town uses 2
to 2.6 million kilowatt hours.
a small nonAI data center, which given
we're in the mountains and how hard it
is to find flat land for anything, bigger than a small data center
is not going to happen, is anywhere from
4.4 to 17.5
million kilowatt hours annually. A small
AI data center is anywhere from 8.7 to
43.8
million kilowatt hours annually.
A big big a big reason for that
difference between a nonAI data center
and AI data center is a nonAI data
center we have them all the time any
company that serves a lot of serves a
lot of customers like our utilities Duke
power like a CG water or our media
companies like Optimo or Direct TV they
all have data centers to so we're
accessing their customer records quicker
than people have column of concerns
an AI data center
and as for non AI data center like that
it's basically access the hard drive get
the data back there you go AI data
center you're taking all of that and
you're running the processor processors
in that data center at 100% almost
continuously
as an analogy a noner might be running
all the electricities all the lights in
your outs all all the time 24/7 with AC
to keep that with that and AI identity
would be doing that same thing oven door
open oven blasting space heaters
throughout the house and a and the AC
trying to keep up with all of that
that's how much more heat is generated
by an AI identity center that it then
has to compensate for electricity usage
and cooling and just electricity used by
the computers themselves.
As a result, we should be hearing from
Duke Power and Takasiji Waller on what
their current path current excess
generating capacity is right now to
service such a high demand
and for an industrial demand because an
AI data center isn't going to just be a
typical electricity line coming into
your house maybe covered in kudzu.
It's going to be one of these big metal
frame
uh and lines with multiple lines coming
off of it that has these giant airways
which you see going up and down the
mountains
and obviously the tea water we've seen
how low the CG gets. If you if you've
driven along river road where where the
water facility is that provides water
for a good porta and a good part of this
local area. We've seen how low that
water gets sometimes.
Think how much more that would have to
get used by a data center that has to
cool a lot of uh computer equipment
that's running
extremely high. Thank you.
>> With no further
people signed up for public comment. Is
there a motion to close uh the second
public hearing? So moved
>> and a second.
>> All in favor? I.
>> None.
Go ahead and call to order our regularly
scheduled meeting. Uh first up this
evening is pledge of allegiance.
Everybody stand
to the republic for which it stands. One
nation under God, indivisible, with
liberty and justice for all.
» Welcome everyone. Uh first up this
evening we have uh the approval of the
agenda.
Everyone's had a chance to look over it.
Uh if they would please uh if there's a
motion on the table for approval.
>> So move.
>> A second.
>> Second.
>> All in favor?
>> I.
>> None opposed. Moving on now to our work
sess or minutes. Um we've got our work
session minutes and our regularly scheduled minutes from August
4th. If everybody's had a chance to look
over those and there's a motion, I'd
like to hear it.
>> And second.
>> All in favor?
>> I.
>> None opposed. Moving on now to uh
administrative reports.
Uh this week I have nothing to report.
Um it's been kind of a slow couple
weeks. So does any other commissioners
have anything to report this week?
>> Uh yeah, I attended the NRA down at our
new um
» I want to say fairgrounds. What? Charles
Elders Event Center. And uh they served
it was really phenomenal. It it went on
a long time. U a lot of good people
there to mingle with and they they
actually served which is remarkable.
They had prime rib au that was
delicious. Baked potato and a salad and
they served over 800 people in 44
minutes. That is unbelievable.
But it it was a good time and great food
and uh it was for a good cause.
>> Yep. I enjoyed it as well. Uh when the
auction started, I figured out that most
of those people have deeper pockets than
me.
[laughter]
>> I have one more thing, too. I went to
the Savannah Fire Department meeting
yesterday and they are getting their new
engine pumper. Um it'll be about a year
and a half for them to actually make it
and have it back to us. And it'll be
their first four-wheel drive. And I
posted it on my um Facebook, but it's uh
replacing a was it an 82 or 83?
>> 83, I think.
>> 83 model. So um the county matched 250
with 250 that uh Kevin got from the
state Kevin Corbin.
So congratulations to Savannah Fire
Department and that's goes to a worthy
cause.
>> Absolutely.
» If not, I'll turn it over to County
Manager King and his report.
I wanted to bring you up to speed on um
actually all the projects, so it'll be a
little bit longer list. Uh the Whittier
Heritage Ground, of course, it was a a
really good event. The NRA also they had Thomas that again just through the
Great Smoke Mountain Railroad had a a
good event for those eight days. Um no
really issues with facility as far as
the utilization and I'm kind of looking
forward to this fall to see how many
more events we can get down there.
Speaking about that, we are still
working on the water situation. Um the
water is the potable water is there but
uh working through with uh Cherokee on
putting in the main line for the
sprinkler system. So during all of those
events we had a firewatch scenario which
we had multiple folks working out with
that um process but we want to get that
going um quickly. So, within the next 20 days, 25 days, we're supposed to be
finishing up and doing the the test on
the sprinkler system and activating that
system with the new water coming from
the Cherokee utility.
Um, also with that and we're kind of
gearing up for the first year, so we'll
be sending out our fees for the
demolition of the remainder of the
building, uh, which will be happening in
January of 27th.
And then uh we're also sending out RFPs
for the new facility um that's going
next to that which will be going online
hopefully in spring of 2027. So we are
working through all of those different
pieces to kind of get that laid out. But
I did want to let you know that is all on there. It is on there our project
um that online so anybody can look at it
and kind of see where we are in in the
time frame. [sighs and gasps]
uh the wittier fall apart. They weren't
active today. So, we had been working
through a lot of different punch list
items with the contractor and I think
all of those have been settled and so
should be open to the public.
>> That's good. I have one question on
that. Have [snorts] you thought about
moving that gate lower down to the road
so people go up there and don't tear the
pavement up trying to turn around?
>> It's going to be relocated.
Yeah. Okay. I just because it's brand
new pavement and I went up there to
check it out and [snorts] didn't know it
was still closed and the pavements get
where they're
power steering. All right.
The uh second part community park we did
um got for bid for that. We did not get
enough qualified biders. So the bid
documents are being redrafted and will
be sent that back out probably in the
next 30 days. Um so when we get those
we'll bring them back for your
consideration. [snorts] Um web village.
Um so we did get the CDB in our which
we've been talking about grant 2.5
million plus the half million from
Goldman Leaf and then the addition of
the 750,000 that the county has put in.
Um what we're looking at is just kind of
looking at the best options because it
involves getting far property pure water
tank and then looking at all the you
know the attributes of trying to get it
back to facility. So we are trying to do
a multiaceted approach. We've identified
two properties. Also, we're looking at a
third option where it would better
benefit not only the Webster area but
also the Koi area with an increased
capacity and may not cost it may cost
the same
when looking at it. So, anyway, it's
taking just a little bit more time to
put together, but um I think that this
process through this study will, you
know, will be the beneficial for the
most people. So, [gasps]
uh, there will be a, um, groundbreaking
in October for the Gibbons section of
Webster Village because they do
currently have enough water pressure for
their segment of it. So, there is going
to be a a groundbreaking ceremony and I
think y'all will be invited to that. So,
>> when will that be?
>> U, I think it'll be on side.
>> Yep.
>> It'll be in October.
>> October. I don't know the specific date.
[snorts]
» The
>> How long is that going to take? Are they
given an estimate?
>> Uh I think they said 18 months. Usually
it's either 18 or 24, but I'm pretty
sure they said 18 on that one.
Any other questions? Okay. Uh the
administration building, we did have a
topping out ceremony um back on the 6th
of August. And so that was a really good
event. Venomware did a great job and
they are doing a great job. It's coming
up rather quickly. So, uh, it'll
probably slow down a little bit once
they get undercover, but I am grateful
for all the the men and women that have
worked on that project. They they've
really done a great job so far. [sighs]
Um, detention facility, which is on your
agenda tonight, so I may not save I may
save that for later on agenda. um
the uh a new project. So the cashers
transfer station we did do get get the
money from
uh the state on that one and we are have
gotten back the RSQs for the engineering
firm. The only engineering firm we did
receive was Miguel and Associates who
did the initial PE um when we did the
project. And so with that said, with it
being a professional service, we can go
ahead and and let them start uh the
design process. So that be coming up and
that's of course laying out the a new
transfer station. You know, we're
working with um the forest service to
expand the footprint of that area of the
permit area. And so it's just a it's
going to be a little bit of a tedious
type of u negotiation I guess or through
the process but it's so it's going to
take a little more time but it is on a
good at this point. We've gotten letters
both from uh forest service and all our
state partners the for dinner and things
like that. So I think everything is
progressing. Um right now we still do I
don't have a budget uh for that. So, we
had the initial budget. When we get a
little bit more in the programming
piece, uh we we'll kind of bring you
more up to speed on where we are at.
Uh the new another new project is the
aquatic facility at Cash Recreation
Center. So, y'all did allocate funding
in this year's budget for an initial
design. We have gotten a designer. they
have got have went through the process
of doing some geotech. So we are
starting that process that process has
started. So I just want to let you know
uh kind of where we are with it. So
we'll be bringing back some planned is
probably going to take four to six
months to get those plans you know kind
of good but then we'll be bringing it
back for your consideration.
Uh the Canada community development
which has also allocated some funding
for some renovation. Um, we're going to
be using utilizing county staff to work
on that project. Um, so that will
probably be starting this fall. Uh, so
if you get anybody from the community
asking questions that we do, we did have
too many set aside. Not much, but we are
going to be utilizing some of our county
staff to do some renovation assembly.
And then kind of with that is the Kend
Fire Department. We are still in um
process of finding property. So, uh,
that still is on the books, but we are
just still trying to identify a piece of
property that would make it a good fit.
So,
and I think that's it for right now. Any
questions?
>> How many projects total is that?
>> Uh, 11.
Sorry.
>> Do you have a dollar amount?
>> It's on the website. [laughter]
>> Just wanted everybody to be aware we're
doing a lot right now. Yeah.
>> Uh, I have just a few questions.
>> Okay.
>> Uh, down at the fair grounds,
Whittier Heritage Heritage Grounds. Um,
someone brought up to me that the event
was great. Everything's great, but when
they went outside, it's pitch black. Can
we get some lights to some
lights to go up outside so people could
see to get back to vehicles?
>> Yeah. You know, we really didn't address
it. I guess um early on we did have a
plan but we did not engage any you know
civil engineering group to do it because
we were going to do the uh we're not
going to put pavement on there because
it would there's just not enough area
for place for storm
>> water
fairgrounds
>> but um the lighting piece will take us
>> lights is what they were concerned about
just you know the lights on the outside
of the building when they got out is
pitch black. Yeah.
>> And
>> a lot of people walking through the
field down to their
>> Yeah.
>> truck. You'd think they were serving
alcohol in there because they were
[laughter]
>> stepping in holes and stuff.
>> Okay.
>> Including me.
» Uh let's see. Then the administrative
building, how long is that going to take
to complete?
>> Uh be July of 2027 is the anticipated
time.
[snorts]
Hey, you won't be there for that.
>> Oh, I didn't want to bring I missed one.
So, a couple of them actually did. Um,
with the detention center, we also have
the justice center
uh renovation and that one we've been
trying to trying to wait. Um, we kind of
had to switch it up a little bit because
we are looking at trying to decrease the
cost of it because between the two
facilities, the detention center and the
justice center all had allocated 15
million. And so, um, the tent center ran
a little bit over, but there's still
money available for the renovation. So,
we're trying to scale it back for u
hopefully getting not having to do the
sprinkler system, which would save a lot
of money and also uh looking at
reutilizing some of the downstairs as
well. So, we're still working on it and
we still think we can make it happen,
but it just taking a little bit more
time.
get a GMP on the middle school yet? I
know we're looking for that.
» We're we're so [sighs] with the middle
school. Um
we're not going to have a DMP by the
time y'all need, you know, to vote on
I'm putting it on.
>> Yeah.
>> They were within a couple of weeks last
we talked.
Well, the the designer the design team,
which is at Pinnacle, um was supposed to
have a a um design ready by the 27th of
August, but in the meantime, they've
then they've switched it to a different
location.
And so with on on the pad to try to
minimize some of the retaining walls,
which is driving cost, which they have
eliminated all the retaining walls. So
that that was a positive. But the actual
design safe.
>> Do what?
>> How much is that going to save?
>> I don't know. But it I know it saved
some, but we don't know yet. But you got
to get better. You can't just have a
piece of paper and say, "Yeah, give me a
price." So, you got to have a little bit
more um analysis of exactly what the
design is to get a good number. So,
[snorts] there's not really good We can
give them estimates like they have, but
not anything concrete.
Well, their estimates is the reason
we're in the shape we're in.
>> Yeah.
» Originally.
[snorts]
» Yeah.
>> All right. With no uh further reports,
uh we have move on to our informal
comments by the public. Up tonight, we
have Jennifer Lawler.
Quick reminder that um this is a a time
for us to listen, not respond to
comments or questions, and the time
limit is up on the screen. Um each
speaker gets three minutes.
>> Okay,
>> with that, Miss LOL.
>> All right. Good evening. Thank you for
giving me the opportunity to speak
tonight. I want to begin by saying that
I support the proposed one-year
moratorum on data centers. I believe a
one-year pause is reasonable approach to
give our elected officials time to
understand how data centers can affect
our community before making decisions
that could have long-term consequences.
The issue I am most concerned about are
the flot cameras installed throughout
our community. My concern is the scope
of surveillance these cameras create and
the lack of consent and transparency
surrounding the collection and sharing
of this information. According to the
recent article published by the Sila
Herald,
17 Jackson County officers have access
to the data collected by these cameras.
We are told that the information is only
retained for 30 days. However, that
information is also being shared with
approximately 280 other agencies.
What does a 30-day retention really mean
when information collected about the
people in our community can be accessed
or shared across such a large network of
agencies? I did not consent to have my
movements recorded because I drive
through town. I did not consent to have
a record created of where my vehicle
travels, when it travels, and
potentially having that information made
available beyond our own local law
enforcement. We have a system already
operating in our community that many
residents did not know about, did not
have an opportunity to to discuss and
did not consent to. I want to be clear.
I am not opposed to law enforcement or
public safety. I support both. And I
want to be equally clear about what I am
asking the board to do. I am asking you
to remove those flot cameras. Other
communities and surrounding counties
have listened to their residents and are
removing these systems because of
community concern and push back. I
believe our community deserves the same
consideration.
We should not have to accept increased
surveillance simply because the
technology exists. The proposed data
center moratorum shows that this board
understands the importance of taking a
step back, gathering information, and
considering the long-term impact on our
community before moving forward. I am
asking you to apply that same
consideration to the flock cameras.
Protecting our community should not
require sacrificing the privacy of the
people who live here. Please support the
one-year data moratorium and please
listen to your residents who are asking
you to remove the flock cameras. Thank
you.
» No one else signed up for public
comment. We'll move on to our consent
agenda portion. And first up this
evening with the finance report is Miss
Fox. [snorts]
Good afternoon.
>> Afternoon.
>> I'll go the highlights for the month of
July. The general fund revenues
collected six million $1,929.
That's 5.52% of budget. The average for
the year is 8.33%. So it's under 2.81%
this time.
The expenditures on the other hand are
10,429,630.
That's 10.32% of budget. So they're over
8.33% by 1.99%.
Currently the revenues are $4,427,71
less than expenditures.
The abalone taxes and NCVTS taxes
collected. The abalorum tax 1,375,161
2.9% of the budget. The public safety
adorum tax 346,152
which is 2.77% of budget. The NCVTS
motor vehicle tax 183,368
that's 9.13% of budget. And the prior
year average tax $77,045
that's 25.68%.
Currently at the end of July we had
accounts receivable recorded for FY26
in the amount of 4,580,987.
We will continue to get those revenues
in till the middle of September.
the we received the sales and use tax
distribution an amount of $1,997,86
that's for April sales that amount is
5.57%
more than we received in July of 2025
the article 46 distribution was 220,569
and the average increase for the fiscal
year at the end of April 7.2 29%.
The landfill disposal fees 70,696
that's 2.29% of budget and the prior
year disposal fees
7,327
that's 9.77% of budget.
The growth revenues for FY27
uh the code enforcement in July over
collection amount estimated by 5.8 88%
and the rest is over by 7.17%.
[snorts]
The general fund contingency balance at
the end of July 2,152,323.
I'd be glad to answer any questions on
the report.
>> Questions for Miss Fox?
If not, we'll move on to our budget
ordinance amendment and project
ordinance amendment.
>> The first amendment is for
appropriation from fund balance for the
amount remaining at the end of FY26 for
SEC capital. That amount's $576,559.
They do have a project ordinance
amendment
that's for the detention facility
project fund.
It's a increase in construction cost of
1,795607
decreasing contingency.
Uh we're moving the from proceeds of
loan decreasing that amount by 8 million
514810
and increase and transfer from capital
reserve for 9 million 56 596607.
» Any questions about either budget
ordinance amendment?
» Thank you.
>> Moving on now we'll go to tax collector
and refund reports and Miss Brooks.
Good evening. So for the month of July,
the current taxes collected was
$1,763,53.
The delinquent taxes collected were
109,717.
The total collected for the month was
$1,947,216.13.
There were refunds of $2,24747
and releases of $7,240.24.
» Any questions?
>> Questions for Miss Brooks?
>> Thank you.
Uh, is there a motion to
approve the consent agenda as presented?
>> So move
>> and a second.
>> Second. All in favor?
>> I.
>> None opposed. Moving on now to new
business and offer to purchase for Pine
Creek Community Building and Mr. King.
So in your packet is a offer to purchase
the Pine Creek Community Building from
Mr. [clears throat] James
Renowski
uh for $30,000.
Uh a little bit of background on this.
Um he had made a request or he sent a
request in. We did a utilization
report on the um the community center.
It is kind of inactive. I think they had
like three people a year rent it. So it
is
really by that cow pasture.
>> Yes.
>> That used to be my grandmother's. She
grew up there. That was their land.
>> Yeah.
um
that he you know he his big thing was I
think he repurchased the old school
concrete school so I think he actually
lives in that and we refurbished it so
he wants to do the same thing with this building as well but it'll be more
of a historical significance
um anyway I guess the question would be
one would you want to entertain the
offer um kind of knowing that the
community has not been utilizing it in many years. Um, so it's at the
pleasure of the board. So,
>> is there anything we could use it for?
>> It doesn't have a water or sewer, I
don't believe. So,
>> more people are going to Glimble. This
just more central. This one's I
understand the reasoning for having it
out there in the past. It's just kind of
said it's in the middle of a cow pasture
and there's not that much traffic
towards it um or involvement with it. I
know a couple people that may
live near there, but I mean more often
than not they're using
library or something closer to town.
>> How long has that building been there?
>> You don't know.
>> I can't ask.
>> Much property is with it. Just much
property.
>> Um, let's see. I did have a sorry it is
definitely left less than an acre. Uh,
I think in your packets
[snorts]
doesn't give me oh five half an acre.
I mean, I'm not opposed to it. Um, I'd
like to
speak with the people I guess maybe the
last people that have rented it. Will we
just
>> Is it Yeah. Is it an annual thing where
they same people
go there?
>> No, it's just pretty much open-ended.
There there's one I guess she's the
custodian of it and basically she's the
one that runs it out but we we checked
on the utilization like say there's been
three in 2025 and think three been three
in 2026
>> I'm kind of wonders if they have like a
annual there's no annual event event or
anything
>> local family or something have their get
together there
>> reunion something
>> very small usage
>> do they have water and sewer out there
in that uh shed on the right. Not shed,
that building on the right for equipment
for farming.
>> No,
>> they don't.
>> There's a creek that runs
>> like 20 ft past it that all their cows
go to.
>> It's not like they're even.
[snorts]
>> So, there's no plumbing whatsoever in
the building
>> from my understanding. I've actually not
been out to see it. So,
>> I was there, but it was a long long long
time ago.
didn't know
>> tax value.
[laughter]
[snorts]
[sighs]
It says it's got a a value of $67,527
and the building and the land is at
40,380.
But
>> so
>> that's not taking consideration the
>> shape of it. I mean I don't
>> if he improves it then
» tax
using
>> I'm not opposed to it. I just think that
we need to
maybe contact those three people and
see, you know, what they're using it for
and
>> get something out.
>> Yeah. And let let the rest of the people
around there know.
» Maybe let's table it till
>> Yeah.
>> next time.
>> Yeah. is I think that I mean it's
explained to the community that they may
not get to use it but it will be
preserved possibly hopefully
>> he'll use it go in and fix it up and
everything but who knows
» but they do have electric
>> yes
[snorts]
>> okay we'll get some more information on
that before we make a decision um moving
on Now to the detention facility, GMP,
Mr. King.
So [sighs and gasps] in your packet, we
did go throughout the bidding process
and got a GMP back of construction cost
of $8,796,67
and the ownership cost is 800,000 for a
total of 9,596,607.
So, and this is for your consideration
for approval. U
>> we already allocated that money.
>> So, this is the budget amendment that
you just did was taking it from the
capital reserve fund and putting it in
the budget to pay for it. So, there's no
loans that will be
>> we set aside a big chunk of talking
about separate.
>> We remove the loan proceeds
and substituted capital.
>> Yeah.
How much over is what? 1.4 was higher
than the estimated.
>> Yeah. Yeah, it was. I mean, we just kind
of separate in half on on the actual
allocation. Um, so it is running a
little bit higher. Not not much higher.
It's still within, you know, that
definitely the parameters of what we
discussed, but um yeah.
>> So remind the public a little bit about
it's going to be building on. Correct.
>> Yep. And we have Venoi here. they can
come up
>> and the fact that we've been having to
transport our inmates to other
facilities and pay for all that and it's
quite expensive.
>> Correct. Yes, we have.
>> Yeah, this is kind of a reactive thing
that would we needed been have done,
>> right?
>> It's adding um I think 40 bits or 40.
Even with us moving out of here or the
administrative side moving out of this
part of the building, you the sheriff's
office still going to need the extra
space.
>> Yes.
>> Yeah.
>> There's going to be a lot of room in
here when
>> all the sheriffs will be utilizing all
of this section and the downstairs will
be will be more for detention. So, and
be the sheriff.
Any
specific
>> any questions for
you?
>> I just want, you know, a little bit of a
refresh for the public of what y'all are
doing.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, we it's actually been a really
good process. Um, COP Architecture out
of Knoxville was the design team uh
along with Venoi and we've had a really
good process that we've worked through
and you know kind of merging the two
facilities together, the current
facilities down there with the new it's
been a challenge um you know trying to
get everything working together and
looking at the 904 plan which is like
the smoky back systems. It's been
challenging to kind of work through that
process. So, some of this money is
actually going to be for maintenance
type of issues that we would had to do
anyway on the current facility. So, like
the some of the roofing, some of the
HVAC
control are going to have to be merged
together. So, a lot of this is is kind
of
>> remodel as well.
>> Exactly. So,
>> who was the design team?
>> Cop
out of Knoxville.
>> Out of Knoxville. Yes.
>> Do we ever resolve the generator issue?
>> I can't remember.
>> Say that one more time.
>> Generator issue.
>> Yes. That was a part of that 904 um
piece. You have to get it and that's I
always call it division of facility
services, but it's I don't know what the
new acronym. Anyway, the state detention
service folks, we have to work for them
to get almost anything done with a
detention center. You have to get
approval from them through a permitting
process. So, it's been kind of tedious
kind of work through the different
>> operators have been shuffling around for
a couple years now. So, let's do that.
>> Yeah. Now, now we're on a good path. We
do have a uh in this process reason it
cost a little bit more in the design
piece is because of the amount of land
that was never put in when the facility
was built. So, this is be new for us.
>> How big is the new portion of the
building square footage? 4200 square
feet
» footprint and then it's got the two
stories.
>> Oh, okay. Thinking
that's a a square foot per person.
» Yeah,
>> sure.
>> It's good. Yeah, I'm glad we able to
refra. It's been a long time since we've
initially unless I missed something, but
>> No, it's been a bit. It's been a while.
currently smaller than the arena that
we're be putting up
>> next spring. So,
>> are we using utilizing property we've
got back here already?
>> Yeah. And it's going to be u there's
going to be some, you know, they've come
up with a good plan on like the
utilization for the back piece. So,
getting construction folks in while
trying to keep the inmates and prisoner
population segmented. So, right now
there's been a good plan developed
throughout this process, too. So all
that had to be taken care of sometime.
>> It's been wonderful working with the
sheriff and his team and figuring that
all out.
>> Yeah.
>> Exciting to get it started.
>> Good deal.
>> Do we Darlene, do we know or Kevin do we
know how much we've spent as far as
taking inmates out of the county?
>> I can get a number for you.
>> Okay. Is it a you think it's a lot of
money?
>> Big number.
>> Yeah, that's I mean going forward I
think
Sheriff, how many do you have usually
going out of the county?
>> I've got 13 out of county right now with
three in DC. So about 16.
>> 16 out of county right now.
>> 16 total out of county.
>> I would say changed
around, but it's not only the cost of
housing out of county, it's the cost
transport.
>> Transporting them. Housing and
transporting them. Yeah. What's the
average daily cost across
>> 5060 $60 a day
>> per inmate to house them?
>> $60 a day. I'm only repeating it so
people that are listening can hear.
>> Yeah.
>> The month of June was spent almost
$22,000
for inmates.
And the sheriff just said in the month
of June they spent almost $22,000
and for inmates housing and
transportation
out of the county
>> just housing
>> housing alone.
>> Yeah.
Is there a motion to approve the GMP for
the detention center?
>> So moved
>> and a second.
>> Second.
>> All in favor?
>> I.
>> None opposed.
Moving on now to the bond order
authorizing the issuance of 105 million
general obligation school bonds.
[snorts]
[clears throat] Mr.
>> King
you want to read that.
Chairman Lson introduce the following
bond order copies of which have been
made available to the board of
commissioners. bond order authorizing
the issuance of $105
million general obligation school bonds
of the county of Jackson, North
Carolina. Whereas the board of
commissioners of the county of Jackson,
North Carolina, has uh ascertained and
hereby determines that it is necessary
to pay the capital cost of constructing,
improving, and renovating various school
facilities for Jackson County Public
Schools, including but not limited to
Smoky Mountain Middle School, Smoky
Mountain High School, Blue Ridge School,
and the school bus bus garage. acquiring
equipment and furnishings required
therefore acquiring land right ofway and
easements in land if necessary and
constructing public infrastructure
improvements related thereto and whereas
an application has been filed with the
secretary of the local government
commission of North Carolina requesting
local government commission approval of
the general obligation bonds here and
after described as required by the local
government bond act and the clerk of the
board of commissioners has notified the
board of commission commissioners that
the application has been accepted for
submission to the local government
commission. Now therefore, be it ordered
by the board of commissioners of the
county of Jackson, North Carolina
[snorts] as follows. Section one. In
order to raise the money required for
the purposes described above, in
addition to any funds which may be ava
made available for such purpose from any
other source, general obligation school
bonds of the county are hereby
authorized and will be issued pursuant
to the local government finance act of
North Carolina. The maximum aggregate
principal amount of such general
obligation school bonds authorized by
this order will be $105 million. Section
two says taxes will be levied in the
amount sufficient to pay the principal
and interest of the general obligation
school bond. Section three states a
sworn statement of the county's debt has
been filed with the clerk of the board
of commissioners and is now open uh to
public inspection. Section four states
the bond this bond will take effect when
approved by the voters of the county at
a referendum scheduled for November 3rd,
2026.
The foregoing bond was order. What? The
foregoing bond order was introduced by
the bo board of commissioners of the
county of Jackson, North Carolina this
day, 18th day of August 20 26. Um,
I'll turn it over to Mr. King.
Basically, this is stating that
just make sure there's nothing else in
um that we're putting a bond on the
ballot for the
balance of all the projects that have
not already been allocated. So, we've
already allocated the money for the
middle school. We've already allocated
the money for the Blueridge school
improvements. They're not 100% of the
[snorts]
projects, just the cafeteria or just the
gymnasium at Blueridge School. Correct.
>> But this isn't 100% for the middle
school either. We hadn't allocated.
>> We've allocated enough to build the
school. The school there's a little bit
of a variance in that, but this would
finalize
>> the school was the supposed to be the
whole done deal.
Ball fields, all that.
originally
>> correct
>> people need to understand that
>> but the GMP has come in or not the GMP
[clears throat]
the estimates have
gone up
>> in here
>> and
what will happen is
if this is not passed or if the voters
choose to not proceed with this $105
million bond we will have a middle
school
We will have a Blue Ridge gymnasium, but
we won't have a bus garage. Uh there
will be no fields at the school.
And
the cafeteria at Blige is is in
question.
>> No, the middle school was it
60 or was it 70 something?
>> I think it's 70. It's a little over
>> 72 just for the school and if we
included the fields it was 10
>> 108 was
>> and I mean we're still working the
process on trying to get it
cheaper but you know this you know steel
is expected to go up 6% a month. I mean
there just there's a lot of things you
know
>> concrete is going up. So, you know, the
more time it's spent on it, it may or
may not go be able to decrease. That's
what I'm saying.
>> And the taxpayers need to realize that
your taxes will go up if you vote for
this.
>> That's true.
>> You know, if this goes on the um ballot
and you vote for this, your taxes will
go up almost $50 for every hundred,000
and same if you want to say $150 for
every 300,000. So it's it's about4ome
dollars for every h 100,000. So people
need to understand that your taxes will
go up again if you vote for this.
>> Yeah.
>> We also understand every time we put it
off, [clears throat] it's just going to
cost more in the future.
>> I don't think we need a middle school.
We need to fix up what we got.
>> But where is that money going to come
from? Without a bond, we don't have
money to fix any of that up. Period.
where where we're going to get promoting
them
>> and then it may surpass what we've
already allocated in terms of bringing
those schools up to where they need to
be.
>> Well, so I mean I sympathize with both
sides know it's going to it's going to
hurt people
>> but what we're looking at is the future
and without education Jackson County has
a very bleak future.
>> Well, we'll still have education.
They'll just be K through eight. Our our
schools are busting at the seams. Where
you going to put them? We're gonna have
to
>> We don't have enough teachers the way it
is. Who's going to teach them?
>> I'm not going to argue that fact.
>> Who's going to drive the buses? We don't
have enough bus drivers. Who's going to
clean the schools? We don't have enough
custodians.
>> And as the schools deteriorate, less and
less teachers want to work there. So, I
mean, it's it's a double-edged sword. We
either do it or we don't. And we sit
back and watch them fail. So
>> where we have more of what's happened
last years,
>> which is half done projects that have
been put off and put off and put off
>> and something that needs to be very
clear is if the people are taxed to
death like you're talking, it'll be up
to them. I mean, they'll be the ones
making that decision. There's a lot of false information going
around right now.
>> It it's in their hands. It's not in our
hands. a lot of false information
stating that we're we're voting on it.
We're spending the $105 million, but the
fact of the matter is they need to get a
little bit educated and look into this
stuff before they start posting things
that's not accurate because if they're
little bit educated, they would know
whether they want to vote for it or
against it.
>> Right.
>> So, and it's up to the people. I mean,
>> is it really up to five people sitting
behind this desk? I agree. It's up to
the people, but the people in they they
work and live their own life,
>> you know, if they don't sit up here, the
majority of them.
>> And when they go to the poll and they
see something on there for the kids,
they're going to think, "Oh, great."
They're going to vote for it and not
realize how much your taxes are going to
increase. And that's what I worry about.
» Okay. Uh the application has been
submitted to local government commission
and accepted
to move forward to the commission and
what I worked up for you is what the
impact will be on the taxes.
The
local government commission required you
to do it on a 20-year deal with a safe
harbor interest rate of 5.344%.
So that's what the application has to be
filed on. So
that would bring the per $100,000 to
5260. But over the 20-year period, you
can see where the tax rate starts at 526
and at year 20 it decreases to 2.2
cents. Yeah, most of us will be dead by
[laughter]
» I mean even even in year three you're
going to 4.89. So it decreases every
year.
>> Yeah. Yeah. That's the good side of it.
But right now y'all are going to be
paying out the nose. If now it's $5260
for every hundred,000.
>> But that that that actual amount will
depend on what the we sell the bonds
for. Right now they're selling from 3.5
to 3.7%.
So it could be a lot less than this.
>> This is just the highest maximum amount.
>> Well, and you know something that we
discussed was doing two separate bonds.
One you raising a concern about the
middle school which is is a I mean valid
concern for sure. Um
you know we could have had two separate
bonds. One fix the schools that we had.
>> Mhm. Um and then one for the to finish
up the middle school and you know
looking back on it that might have been
what we should have done but the
consensus was that we
>> meeting was to do it together do nothing
>> um
>> but we also didn't know that the
building of the middle school was going
to jump from
>> 50 60 million tound
>> we did have 109
whatever it is
>> it is very frustrating I mean
>> within a year it jumped that It it's
very frustrating
to be given the numbers,
you know, originally and which it was
just estimates and then a year later or
whatever it was less than a year when we
had our joint meeting was likeund.
It was no it was triple. It was way
upund
>> 30 something.
>> Do you double your prices on funeral?
[laughter]
>> No. No. But uh you know
I don't know where we where they went
wrong. I I feel like we have been led
on. It's
and it's it really [snorts] gets on my
nerves that we have been because now
we're backed into a corner and we have
to make a decision
u you know as we see fit and then that's
if it does go on the ballot then the
voter will also have to make the
decision as they see fit. Um,
and it's just one of those things.
>> I mean, if I could talk to every single
voter and let them know, if we knew that
we every single voter would be aware
before they got to the polls of what the
repercussions were, then and they still
voted for it, then okay, I'm all for it
because I'm for that, but they're not
going to know.
>> Now,
have we approved the verbiage of what's
going to be on the ballot on the actual
ballot? That'll be the next
>> the next resolution that's on your
agenda right now.
>> Probably vote for this or taxes will go
down in 20 years
>> on that. Is there is it show a clear
increase on the next one?
>> What what is
>> the disclosure will show the increase
and it'll be posted tomorrow on the
website.
>> So I mean
» people people do need to know. I know,
but it's it's just like the swimming
pool. And that's one thing that keeps
sticking in my mind. People voted for it
>> and it it was done. But who did they
blame? The commissioners. They blamed
the commissioners.
>> Well, and that's fine.
>> That that is the truth. I heard it all
over.
>> But you can't sit here and go, "Well,
I'm not going to vote on this because I
don't want to be blamed for it."
>> Well, that's called history. I'm just
looking at history.
>> But you you're you're worried about
something. Well, they don't know
thinking of well and that's fine.
>> And that's where it goes back to, you
know, the false information that's going
around on Facebook and everywhere else
is that we're actually voting on the
money.
>> If somebody would get on there and
actually put on there what we're
actually voting for and actually educate
the people on how to vote, then that it
would make sense. But the stuff that I'm
reading don't make a lick of sense to me
because we're not voting on the money.
And just to be straight honest, I don't
know how I'll vote as a voter in
November, but and just like for you,
you'll be voting for it. We're all going
to be voting for it.
>> Yeah. And ultimately, isn't it the
voters's responsibility to educate
themselves on what they're voting on?
You know, if if they're not willing to
take that responsibility
then, I mean, how do you make them? You
can't.
>> In politics,
>> you have to offer them choice. In
politics, there's been a thousand times
I wished I had a vote as a as a voter on
some sort of object. And I, you know, I
thought this was a no-brainer. And I'm
with you. It may very well fail because
of the increase, tax increase. Do I want
tax increase? Absolutely not. Uh because
I know how much I've already figured it
up on how much I'm going to have to pay
extra. But I think it's it's worth
giving the community the option
to say yes or no and then it won't be
your fault. It won't be our fault. It
will be their fault.
The ones that voted yes and
[clears throat] there's nothing that
>> that we can do about it. And I do agree
with you. The former commissioners, they
did get the blame for the sure did. Um
but there again, the people voted for it
and they do need to be educated. Um, so
whatever we have to do to get people
educated, send out mailers, whatever we
need to do, but I agree with you on that people need do need to be educated
on what they're voting on.
>> They'll be published in the paper as
well.
>> I mean,
>> well, well, they have to. I mean, if we
pay for
>> this is a this is what they'll get and
it'll have the exact wordage. It won't
be uh a news story that they publish.
It'll be what we give them.
They can't just publish what they want
when we give them a a letter that they
have to publish.
» Yeah, I I agree. You know, they're the
Blue Ridge Schools.
>> Then where does the money from come from
to fund the teachers and the gyms and
the buses
>> and buy the buses?
>> You're talking about the new school and
the middle school.
>> Yeah.
>> This goes on and on. Well, the seventh,
sixth, seventh, and eighth graders from
the other schools will be moved to the
middle school. But there again, I do
agree with you. The power bill, the you
know, the upkeep, that'll be something
that you you guys will have to come up
with. Not me, but assuming it passes.
>> Yeah, assuming it passes. But um
>> you're going to have to reduce your
finger wheels any [laughter]
donate money.
>> If I had it, I would.
But our schools are outdated very much.
So we want the existing schools. I think
we can all agree on that that we need to
get them, you know, up up to shape.
>> And if it was my choice, I would say the
state would allow us to have a penny
sales tax increase. That way it's based
on usage and you're getting captures
from tourism, not just locals. It's it's
a
>> Yep.
>> a a better way of
>> earning money.
>> Well, think about the nickel.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, the penny is no longer. So,
all that money just either goes into
wherever or is just disbanded.
>> Where's GS15C sitting now? like 501 115C
501 that governs sales tax for schools,
but I think it's geared towards teachers
and
>> it's it's toward capital.
>> The 501
I'll I'll look it up again, but I was
thinking the 500 or 501 was geared
towards teacher salaries for certain
districts of less than 100,000 people.
>> I'll look at that.
the sales tax we get on based our
capital
>> right this is a special school district
tax
>> basically
» and also I want to address the fact
that
you know we've been
I've seen so much stuff people sent me I
don't even have social media but people
send me screenshots of stuff that This
board has done this, this board has done
that, county manager's done this, county
manager done that. The simple fact about
it is
every piece of property
that we that the county and I say we the
county has purchased has come before
this board
and to my knowledge it's been unanimous,
right? every time every project that's
been done
has come to this board that and it's
been pretty much unanimous. The only
thing that wasn't unanimous was our
budget. I feel like you know this board
we've been on the same page on several
things and
I don't know where the misinformation is
coming from where it's but it's just
unreal. It's not Mark Leon. It's not
Todd Bryson. And this this whole board, has voted on
everything,
all the projects, all the properties,
everything that we have purchased
>> going up to the amount it went up to. It
wasn't unanimous. It was prior to that,
>> but not after that.
>> Correct. I'm I'm talking about other
properties and other other projects that
we've we've done outside of this. And
>> many of them have come in under budget.
>> Yeah. I mean, and it's good things for
the county. We're we're we've been
behind for years
>> creating revenue streams that were never
there before.
>> Yeah.
>> So
>> to help offset the costs of
and this is to me I mean my vote on this
side this is a win for
every student in this county. And
>> yeah,
>> and just so the public is aware.
Are you guys able
to authorize a purchase of any property
without our consent?
>> No.
>> Okay.
Have you ever authorized a purchase
without our consent?
>> No.
>> Yeah. So, or other board the other
board's consent.
>> Darlene's case. [laughter]
Um, so you know, I really wish people
would quit getting on Facebook and
believing what they hear and get in here
and sit down in one of those chairs and
actually listen uh instead of u
vote these three out and I'm not even
running for commissioner. [laughter]
I'm done.
>> Yeah. Is there a motion on the bond
order authorizing uh the issuance of 5
million general obligation school bonds?
» So move
>> and second.
>> All in favor? I
>> I
>> Okay, one opposed. Motion carries. Uh,
moving on now to the resolution R26-13,
the bond order for school bonds and
setting the public hearing. And Mr. G.
Okay,
I'll read this one as resolution of the
county of Jacksonville regarding bond
order authorizing the issuance of
general obligation school bond setting
public hearing their own and directing
publication of notice of said public
hearing. bond order entitled bond order
authorizing the issuance of 105 million
general education school bond of the
county of Jackson North Carolina has
been introduced at a meeting of the
board of commissioners of the county of
Jackson North Carolina on the 18th day
of August 206 whereas the board of
commissioners desire to provide for the
holding of public hearing of their own
September 1st 2026 and the submission of
a statement of debt and a statement
disclosure in connection therewith as
required on local government the local
government bond act. Neither will be it
resolved by the board of commissioner of
the county of Jackson, North Carolina at
the public hearing on said bond order
shall be held on the 1st of September
2026 on the justice administration
building room A20141
Grand South Cove Road, North Carolina at
the at or about 6:30 p.m. Further
resolved that the clerk board of
commissioners is hereby directed to call
copy of said bond order to be published
with the notice of such hearing on the
form prescribed by law in a newspaper of
general circulation in the county on or
before the 26th day of August 2026. Be
it further be resolved that before the
public hearing the finance director is
hereby directed to file sworn statement
of debt with the local government
commission and the clerk of the board of
commissioners in court to set 159-55 of
the North Carolina Zimmerman statutes
file board of commissioners and local
government commission of North Carolina
and post online statement of disclosure
in accordance with section 159-551A
of the general statutes of North Inana
be it further resolve that the
resolution shall become effective on the
date of it adoption
that is there a motion for R26-13
uh bond order for school [snorts]
bronze and setting public hearing on
September 1st.
>> What time? 6
6:30 p.m.
» at 6:20.
>> It can be. We have others that day, too.
So 6:30.
>> Okay. So that's the reason it says on or
about.
>> That's what I order.
>> Okay.
Is there a motion?
>> Move
>> and a second.
>> Second. Madam clerk.
>> Commissioner Hooper.
>> No.
>> Commissioner Bryson?
>> Yes.
>> Commissioner Smith?
>> Yes.
>> Chairman Lson?
>> Yes. Moving on [clears throat] now to a
special event uh youth arts festival hay
ride ordinance [snorts] OS or O2026-01
Mr. King. So this is a ordinance
carrying the traffic for the hay ride
hayride sorry for the youth arts
festival on Saturday September 19 2026
from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 pm uh from WBI to
Haywood Road and to Green Energy Park um
and it's just our annual hay ride. So
>> is there a motion for the hay ride?
>> So moved
>> and a second.
>> Third.
>> Mr. Smith.
>> Yes.
>> Commissioner Bryson,
>> yes.
>> Commissioner Hooper,
>> yes.
>> Chairman Leson,
>> yes.
>> Uh, and then lastly this evening, we
have the data center moratorum ordinance
02026-02.
Mr. Post
finishing strong tonight.
>> Yes, sir.
>> Five minutes.
>> I have
maximum minimum [laughter]
>> at the very most.
So, I know we've talked about this uh
previously at the work session calling
for public hearing on this a few weeks
ago, but uh really this document sets
out the the legal um standard for how we
call for moratoriums. And part of what
we do is we describe the moratorum. Uh
it's going to it's supposed to be a year
moratorum if approved tonight starting
tonight on the 18th and running till
August 18th, 2027.
Within that, we also have some
benchmarks that we've identified of the
types of um activities that will go on
and the expectation of why we're going
to what we're going to do over this year
period as we explore and understand
better the impacts of data centers and
what the county's response might be to
those. So, it involves uh doing some
hearings a board level for general
comments. We'll be bringing some
experts, at least one that that has some
background in data centers specifically
uh to speak to the boards and um and
then you know expect that to happen uh
simultaneously to the planning board
reviewing what other ordinances are out
there in North Carolina, what other
communities are doing and at the
beginning of the year starting to talk
about the drafting of regulations and
certainly by um the um August deadline
for the planning board and the uh and
the board commissioners to hold public
hearings for considerations of possible
regulations that may be next year.
>> This be next year.
>> Good deal.
>> Yeah. Moving in. So that's the basis of
the of the uh of the of the moratorum.
And what this says we won't be issuing
any permits related to development um of
u uses for data center as defined
herein. Uh so that's the basis of the of
the moratorum. I'll be happy to answer
any questions that the board may have.
[snorts]
>> I know there's a couple places in the
county already that has a data center.
Boston West is one if they were to
relocate to another.
So I think you know
what why the mortorium is probably
really appropriate in this day and age
is once you get a data center into your
jurisdiction you know they that that's
when we get into this issue that we've
had before about um creating
nonconformities and is it a down zoning
and do we have the ability to make
changes to that. So right now we're not
aware of and Baltimore west is actually
in Webster's zoning jurisdiction right
now not in the county's zoning
jurisdiction. That's why I think we have
some space to to to have an impact on
this issue. That's different than
>> Yeah.
>> Actually, last time I knew they were out
still out in Dillsboro out there.
>> Okay, we can check.
>> Yeah.
>> Any additional questions for Mr. Poston?
If
>> not, I'll seek a motion for approval.
>> I'll move
>> and a second.
>> Second, Madam Clerk.
>> Commissioner Hooper.
>> Yes.
>> Commissioner Brson? Yes.
>> Commissioner Smith?
>> Yes.
>> Chairman Lson?
>> Yes.
>> Thank you very much.
There's no need for close session and uh
I guess no comments from the press this
evening or questions. Uh quick reminder,
we have a several
uh public hearings on September 1st uh
work session on September 1st at 7 and
then our regularly scheduled meeting
September 15th. With no further
business, is there a motion to adjurnn?
So move and a second.
>> All in favor? I.
>> None opposed. Oregon.