[0:05] members. Good morning. I'm
[0:09] calling together the
[0:09] transportation Energy
[0:10] Utilities Committee meeting
[0:13] for Tuesday, SEPTEMBER. 1st,
[0:15] it is now 9 o'clock. We'll
[0:15] begin with introductions from
[0:19] my left. Steven Levy Council
[0:19] research.
[0:21] >> Carla Shall Office of
[0:22] General Counsel.
[0:22] >> And we're Linskey Council
[0:25] auditors office. On a holder
[0:28] at large one. That college at
[0:32] large group for Jacoby Pittman
[0:33] District. 10 tomorrow City
[0:35] Council district, one. Good
[0:35] morning. Jamie Palooza
[0:38] District 7. Good morning.
[0:41] Well, where is district 11?
[0:41] Good morning. Original Geffen
[0:45] enjoying a thank you. I'd like
[0:48] to welcome our newest member.
[0:49] >> COUNCILWOMAN Holder, if
[0:55] you. And you know, you have
[0:55] the floor, if you want to make
[1:01] some comments.
[1:06] >> I
[1:09] >> I trust me. I appreciate
[1:09] that. Because in this
[1:10] environment, some folks like
[1:15] that So and we welcome. Let's
[1:17] go, buddy,
[1:19] >> First item is 2026. There
[1:21] were 5. Some of number 2 is
[1:28] 2026, 0, 6, 27 2026 item
[1:30] number 3 is 0, 6.29 Item
[1:36] number for 2026. Sera 6.33
[1:38] Item number 5, 0 2020, 26, 0,
[1:45] 6, 34. Item number 6, 2026, 0,
[1:48] 6, 35 and will begin with item
[1:50] number one that's been
[1:51] deferred at the request of
[1:55] Council member Boylan. Item
[1:58] number 2, 2026, 0, 6, 27. Open
[2:03] the public hearing. Do we have
[2:06] any carts? It's Renee Hunter
[2:08] to you. One. Explain what this
[2:12] is about. I just want to see
[2:25] you walk down here. Good
[2:25] morning.
[2:26] >> Hunter public works real
[2:27] estate divisions. So before
[2:30] you for Bill 6.27, is the
[2:31] closure of an unimproved
[2:34] unopened right of on Gate
[2:36] Parkway. The applicant is
[2:37] Seminole Timber and they're
[2:39] going to be redeveloping. The
[2:40] right of way for still would
[2:45] Pines Boulevard phase 2. And
[2:46] that's pretty much what
[2:47] they've paid. The 2009. You
[2:48] include your application fee.
[2:49] There's been no objections
[2:50] from anybody in the city to
[2:52] disclosure request. And we're
[2:53] going to be reserving an
[2:56] easement over the area for And
[2:58] I'm here for any questions.
[3:01] Any questions of committee?
[3:02] Thank you. Ms Hunter,
[3:07] appreciate you. Yes,
[3:08] >> Close the public hearing.
[3:08] Can I get a motion on the
[3:10] amendment and then a second.
[3:11] Can someone explain the
[3:14] amendment?
[3:15] >> chair the committee, the
[3:18] Amendment corrects the book. A
[3:19] page reference and then
[3:19] corrects. The Ari number
[3:22] listed in the bill.
[3:23] >> Thank you so much. Going to
[3:25] get a motion on the bill as
[3:28] amended already have. Voice
[3:30] vote on the amendment. All in
[3:37] favor. Any oppose. Now the can
[3:38] I get a motion on the bill as
[3:39] amended? Thank you. Open your
[3:54] ballot.
[4:00] >> 7 yeas, 0 nays.
[4:02] >> By your action, you've
[4:10] approved 2026 0, 6, 27. Item.
[4:12] Number 3, 2026, 0, 6, 29. Can
[4:15] I get a motion Ville? Any
[4:32] discussion? Open your ballots?
[4:36] >> 7 yeas, 0 nays.
[4:36] >> By your actions, approved
[4:43] 2026, 0, 6, 29. Item number 4.
[4:44] 2026, 0, 6.33 Can I get a
[4:52] motion? Any discussion? Seeing
[4:53] none in the to open your
[5:04] ballot.
[5:08] >> 7 yeas, 0 nays.
[5:10] >> By your action, you've
[5:16] approved 2026 era 6.33 Item
[5:17] number 5 has been deferred at
[5:17] the request of the
[5:20] Jacksonville Electric
[5:22] Authority j Item number 6 open
[5:23] the public twenty-twenty 6, 0,
[5:27] 6.35 For the public hearing.
[5:31] No cards, no speakers. Close.
[5:32] The public hearing move the
[5:33] amendment.
[5:43] >> The What is the amendment?
[5:44] >> chair the committee, the
[5:45] Amendment corrects the council
[5:46] district council district 5 in
[5:49] which the road renaming is
[5:51] taking place. It also cleans
[5:53] up the on file as well as
[5:55] reflecting that there are only
[5:55] 5 affected property owners.
[5:57] There was one response in the
[5:58] affirmative and for no
[5:58] responses on the street street
[6:02] renaming.
[6:03] >> Thank you. Any discussion
[6:06] on the amendment. All in favor
[6:15] of the amendment. Any opposed.
[6:29] Open your ballots. Record, the
[6:34] >> 7 yeas, 0 nays.
[6:35] >> By your actions, you've
[6:42] approved 2026, 0, 6, 25. Item
[6:45] number 7, 2026, 0, 6.44 Has
[6:47] been deferred due to a public
[6:47] hearing and neighborhoods on
[6:55] 9.14 2026. Item number 8,
[6:56] 2026, 0, 6, 6, 2 is on second.
[7:01] Reading. And we have any
[7:09] public comment. MR. Carr know
[7:10] over Oliver, would you please
[7:12] come 2 minutes and 30 seconds.
[7:15] >> All right. My name is card
[7:15] addresses on file. Want to use
[7:18] does. This bill that was filed
[7:26] by Joe Carlucci 2026 0 6.33
[7:26] I'm becoming more. I'm getting
[7:27] more comfortable with
[7:30] segregation. And when I look
[7:35] at the cip. Probably the
[7:35] biggest problem is day.
[7:37] Everybody's everybody's
[7:38] business and look at what's
[7:39] happened in this election.
[7:43] Especially local. There was
[7:46] the lowest black Americans.
[7:47] It's on the most. A used a
[7:53] show. I know. Has she got
[7:54] elected? All I'm rich white
[7:57] folks in the sober. I looked
[7:59] at the numbers. So here's my
[8:04] point. I want to create a
[8:06] trust fund for old city limit.
[8:09] Black American community. What
[8:13] I mean, everybody pays into.
[8:19] Over 5 That money and we can
[8:22] rebuild own communities
[8:23] without Joel getting in
[8:26] business. The same reflection
[8:28] could happen to the of the
[8:31] district. What I am certain
[8:33] Laden is a bilateral trade
[8:36] agreement and I am new laws
[8:36] aimed to 18, 66 civil rights
[8:42] act of 81. Of our is sent the
[8:48] email. As written. Now. And
[8:49] what I want you to do is that
[8:54] at The state legislature, it.
[8:59] Here local. Because with this
[9:00] proposal, what it does is
[9:03] keeps everybody happy because
[9:04] everybody's really frustrating
[9:06] with the city counts. I want
[9:10] the biggest one. I'm tired of
[9:12] hearing people from district
[9:12] complain about poor
[9:16] representation. They talk
[9:19] about roles not being pay. The
[9:23] talking People are saying this
[9:28] kind of stuff. And no way to
[9:28] fix it is that they pot of
[9:32] money. Let's figure out how
[9:36] much is going to call The fun
[9:38] 5 years worth Capital
[9:39] Improvement project that that
[9:42] money stay in that community.
[9:46] And the people all. Everybody
[9:47] must stop getting everybody's
[9:48] business. Thank you. MISS
[9:52] Oliver.
[9:53] >> Before we adjourn, I just
[9:55] want to make quick comment on
[9:57] the previous legislation and
[9:58] thank council member Carlucci
[10:02] for putting it forward. Don't
[10:02] MISS The Haskell for a number
[10:04] of years and the work that
[10:07] he's done. This communities
[10:11] truly remarkable. And so this
[10:13] is just good recognition of
[10:13] his contribution to our
[10:31] community. Go ahead. You.
[10:36] There. I wanted. Was in this
[10:37] committee.
[10:39] >> As it did in the other
[10:39] neighborhoods yesterday. Just
[10:43] share that. On Friday this
[10:50] Friday. Having 2 meetings
[10:52] notice meetings will be in the
[10:53] chambers, at least the first
[10:54] one will the second maybe in
[10:56] one of the other conference
[11:00] rooms. Sent out a notice to
[11:05] everybody. And the first one
[11:08] at 1 o'clock. Is going to be
[11:10] on the Affordable housing
[11:11] proposal that the mayor had
[11:13] included in her budget. When
[11:16] she when she handed it off to
[11:18] the council. The council cut
[11:20] that out of the budget and
[11:27] finance. And I would like to
[11:28] have a notice meeting on the
[11:34] possibility. Placing that back
[11:41] in the budget. In the next one
[11:45] is on some. Is one Michael be
[11:46] here during committee week.
[11:50] I'm gonna be. Going up to
[11:50] North Carolina desperately
[11:54] seeking cooler weather. So I
[11:57] won't be here, but it has pot
[11:58] passed emergency in council
[12:02] but has do with. The Family
[12:02] Exchange. Club's parent a
[12:04] program and it fits. Really
[12:11] well and fills a niche the and
[12:12] the mayor's programs, the
[12:15] journey. I think it is in
[12:20] helping parents in and trying
[12:21] to work with their children
[12:22] that are at high risk. So many
[12:25] program. Received a lot of
[12:28] funding from the state.
[12:30] Receives lot of private
[12:33] funding I've been talking to
[12:36] these folks for a long time.
[12:37] And finally decided see if I
[12:41] could. It's going to be with
[12:44] funding from this year. It
[12:45] won't have any effect the
[12:46] budget that we're proposing
[12:48] for next year. Of course, the
[12:55] affordable housing will and so
[12:58] if if after discussion on
[12:59] Friday. I think that I would
[13:04] probably like to. Support and
[13:08] amendment 2. Affordable
[13:09] housing dollars and a program
[13:10] has proposed back in the
[13:17] budget. And I look if this
[13:18] councilmember Holder will
[13:18] speak to today, I'm sure she
[13:19] does. She did in the committee
[13:22] yesterday. And I think she
[13:26] would like to be really the
[13:26] well. There's no sponsor a
[13:29] budget amendments, but I think
[13:31] they MAY be on a list. The
[13:32] budget amendments MAY be on
[13:34] the list with people's names
[13:36] associated with amendment and
[13:38] really should be it really
[13:40] should be under her name, not
[13:45] mine or if it my most b, a a
[13:45] caboose behind hers would be
[13:51] happy for that. So I would
[13:52] just ask that as many of you
[13:55] that can a 10. So that we can
[13:57] really understand what that
[13:58] affordable housing. Proposal
[14:05] is. In the comment has been
[14:06] made that well and it only
[14:07] help out 800,000 people. So
[14:09] why? Why do it? Because it's
[14:13] not So help everybody. I
[14:15] thought about that comment.
[14:16] And I thought about when I was
[14:18] a young salesman trying to
[14:21] piece together an agency that
[14:22] one day we've become quite the
[14:22] book of business, which it
[14:27] finally has. And we had a
[14:28] saying that by the Inc is a
[14:33] sense by the artist. Hard. You
[14:34] build a book of business. You
[14:36] build a city by the end. And
[14:39] sooner or later they become
[14:40] yards. But if you try to do it
[14:42] all at once by the yard and
[14:43] that's kind of hard because
[14:45] this is a big by the the Apple
[14:49] take off. And so I would use
[14:52] that comparison so chair, I
[14:53] just want to make that
[14:54] announcement this Friday. 1
[14:56] o'clock for double housing.
[14:58] And I think to 30 is the
[15:01] family Exchange Club, parent
[15:02] Child Assistance Program. And
[15:05] I would like to if if you if
[15:07] you want recognize all turned.
[15:09] Turning back to you, MR. Chair
[15:11] and and you can recognize
[15:12] Holder Councilmember Holder,
[15:14] she would like to speak. Thank
[15:16] you. Thank Anybody else for
[15:18] that matter. Thank you, MISTER
[15:19] Carlucci. Don't see her in the
[15:23] Are you?
[15:23] >> Go ahead. Councilmember
[15:24] Holder.
[15:27] >> Through the chair. Thank
[15:28] you. Past. PRESIDENT Colleges
[15:31] want to echo your sentiments
[15:33] about the importance trying to
[15:33] get affordable housing back
[15:36] into the budget as well as
[15:38] programs that our children and
[15:40] our families. So look forward
[15:41] to our notice. Meeting on
[15:43] Friday in moving forward with
[15:44] an amendment to the budget
[15:46] with you support. Thank you so
[15:50] much. Thank you, MR. Mousa.
[15:51] >> Thank you. Chair wasn't i
[15:51] was going to be on this at
[15:54] first, but I'm very grateful
[15:55] to 2. And it was council
[15:56] member and our most seasoned
[15:56] councilmember leading on this
[15:58] issue. Housing is obviously
[16:00] pretty much the most premier
[16:01] problem facing the city at the
[16:03] moment. And Unf poll has
[16:05] suggested that on I'm gonna go
[16:06] a little bit of a step
[16:06] further. I'd like to see that
[16:09] meeting also evolve into MAY
[16:11] be making sure that we as a
[16:11] council pushed back on this
[16:13] idea of putting things below
[16:14] the line. And if we can get
[16:15] the affordable housing money
[16:18] back in the and the budget, I
[16:19] don't like to see psg and csu
[16:21] grants moving fully above the
[16:22] line. And I would like to see
[16:23] if that's something that my
[16:24] colleagues will be interested
[16:32] in. MR. Carlucci. MR. Chair
[16:35] through the chair.
[16:38] Councilmember is asking it.
[16:39] Those 2 concepts could be
[16:40] included into the Affordable
[16:46] housing. I'm not sure if we're
[16:50] such a on that. And I'm not
[16:51] against talking about anything
[16:52] in meetings. I like my
[16:55] meetings be noticed. You know,
[16:56] so that anything can be talked
[16:57] about because we so seldom
[17:02] have the chance to do so. I
[17:03] would say was with some
[17:08] caution. Going back to by the
[17:09] Inc is a cinch by the art.
[17:11] It's hard I'm trying to get
[17:15] this Inc of the budget
[17:16] restored and I don't not sure
[17:20] we will have time or we want
[17:21] to take 2 bytes that that
[17:25] those 2 under the line things
[17:25] because I respect what
[17:27] CHAIRMAN Of finances trying to
[17:31] do I do want to try to keep
[17:32] respect with what the council
[17:33] president is trying to do.
[17:36] This budget has been a good
[17:39] budget process so far. At the
[17:42] same time cutting something
[17:45] out like affordable housing. I
[17:46] think it's worth trying to put
[17:49] that back in. So I would like
[17:52] to Keep the meeting too. The
[17:56] affordable housing agenda. But
[17:57] if we get through that in an
[17:57] hour and a half, we've got
[17:59] time left over. You're welcome
[18:00] to bring that up and we can
[18:02] talk about a far be it for me
[18:05] to ever stifle in a
[18:07] conversational city business
[18:09] that we haven't any notice
[18:11] meeting that I ever have.
[18:13] Thank you. Thank you. MISTER
[18:15] Carlucci, mist up a one more
[18:16] time.
[18:16] >> Thank you, chair. And just
[18:17] finish. Yeah. I think that the
[18:19] main purpose of the meeting
[18:20] should be the Affordable
[18:21] housing trust. Just want make
[18:22] sure we have that opportunity.
[18:22] Kind of going to other
[18:24] budgetary matters.
[18:25] >> If that's something that
[18:26] the Dark Tunnel Council
[18:27] offices okay with adding that
[18:27] to maybe the notice meeting
[18:30] and other budgetary matters
[18:31] and then perhaps if not, then
[18:32] we'll just keep it affordable
[18:33] housing. If that's your
[18:34] meeting. I see Michelle
[18:37] grabbing her microphone. You
[18:43] see her. Should start are
[18:44] okay. Thank you. Through the
[18:46] chair to the committee.
[18:47] >> So I just put up that
[18:50] meeting. Notice Councilmember
[18:54] Carlucci Center out and it
[18:56] says it's meeting regarding
[18:56] Affordable housing budget
[18:57] amendments. They'll need to
[19:01] kind of limit discussions to
[19:03] that topic and things closely
[19:04] related. If you want revise
[19:06] meeting notice, perhaps to
[19:08] make it a little broader, that
[19:08] would be my recommendation. If
[19:09] you want to talk about other
[19:10] things that are closely
[19:11] related.
[19:15] >> And Michelle, how many if
[19:16] it survives, how many hours
[19:17] does that have to be out
[19:22] before the meeting occurs? At
[19:23] least 72 hours. Course, our
[19:25] recommendation 24 hours would
[19:30] be the minimum. All right.
[19:32] Thank you so much for that
[19:33] clarification. Any other
[19:35] business to come before this
[19:35] committee and the days ahead?
[19:39] We're still trying to schedule
[19:42] some presentations that a red
[19:43] relative to the role in the
[19:44] function of transportation
[19:47] energy. Tell it easy if
[19:48] members of the committee have
[19:49] some ideas as to who can make
[19:51] it work while presentation
[19:53] that would leave us rich with
[19:57] information. Help us to be
[19:58] make better decisions going
[20:01] forward. Please forward your
[20:02] suggestions thank you all for
[20:04] showing up this morning. Staff
[20:05] and committee members. This
[20:07] meeting stands adjourned or
[20:11] next meeting is SEPTEMBER 15.