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>> Good afternoon, everyone.

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I apologize for being late.

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Time is 11, 10. That close mean

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order. I want to go to our left

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and introductions.

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Joe Carlucci District. 5 people

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is a district 7,

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Chris Billings Municipal Code

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compliance

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or the shelf us of general

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counsel. Thank you all for

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being here. This is meant to be

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relatively quick meeting.

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You know, councilmember color

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to your very kind and

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introducing this bill with me.

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And this is incredibly

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important to our historic

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neighborhoods.

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>> I believe the might have had

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a thought on.

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>> Some kind of change or

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alteration. I want to make sure

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that, you know, for the purpose

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of getting this bill quickly

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through committees because

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we've been working on it for

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the better part of the year.

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I want to make sure the maybe

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we had a friendly amendment

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added on their go. Yeah,

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no, I appreciate the question

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for that. You're recognized.

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>> And appreciate it.

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>> So yeah, and working with

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Michelle on, it's a friendly

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amendment. But what I've what I

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found as I kind of was diving

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through the bill was a lot of

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San Marco isn't historically

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designated surprisingly enough,

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but it's also kind of by

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design. It's been a whole

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thing. So if anything, it was

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just going to be to add an

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exhibit with a map that kind of

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draws in an area, San Marco and

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Saint Nicholas that says

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its all of these areas. Plus,

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what's an exhibit A, which is

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that they would just be a map

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highlighting certain areas in

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my district that that would

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potentially fall into having

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these benefits. Understood.

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I I personally would love to

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see that. I think the question

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was does HPC.

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>> As a body have purview over

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those areas because this is

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obviously going to HPC. I just

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>> Do we want Michelle to kind

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of been on that verify or you

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mean, my my goal was it would

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fall in. They would have

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purview as it pertains to this

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process. They might not have

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preview. Unlike other senses,

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maybe they'd like they do add

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with certain other approvals

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that they give for demolition

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or improvements. But if if

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they're going through this

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process to acquire property,

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that the city's for closing on

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San Marco Preservation wants

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to, you know, partake in a

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revitalization program like

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that's outlined in the bill,

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then they would have to go

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through the same process which

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may be due to outline the

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process, the H BC what is it

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HPC Yasser Preservation,

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gas? Yeah. What what is that

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process that they have for it

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right now? Well, right now

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identified now there's nothing

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right. So that the demolition

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by neglect.

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>> The committee task Force

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went through, hey, we think

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that it be great to have these

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kind of opportunities to make

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sure we can get these

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properties out of the hands of

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bad landlords and landowners

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who have just kind of

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consistently said properties

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when it came to even Arlington

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as well. Right to talk about

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Arlington and San Marco.

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Little been some of our other

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notice meetings. I think our

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conversation was well, one of

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the things we can do is if

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there is a property that might

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be in danger and thus and

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there's a lot of code

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violations, Orleans, the city

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might be able to take it and

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put a once it's in the city's

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possession. You can put a

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historic landmark status on

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that. And now it's BC does have

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purview over something out.

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Some kind of discuss tonight.

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You know, Michelle and I don't

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want to,

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but I'm a lawyer and a 30 year

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if you want to

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lawyered up and tell us how you

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feel about that.

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>> I agree with that.

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That's that's the way it could

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work. Absolutely is. And

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designated structure.

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The city came to own. It would

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easily landmark their own

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structure. Yeah.

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>> Where they have to sorry

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through the chair requires have

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an open discussion later.

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They have to land market in

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order to qualify for this

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program or whatever.

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>> So at that point, the city

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would have options rightfully

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owned it.

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through kind of the new process

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that this bill creates for

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disposing it through the

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donation. Florist then like

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qualifying the bidders, you

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know, to get in the hands of

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someone who can rehabilitate

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it, the they would have to land

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market to do that. They didn't

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want to. They could've suppose

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of it in a different way.

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>> And we have we have historic

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preservation here as well.

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And there's kind of a seedy as

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want to come on up here.

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Come on, come on up to that

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to the table.

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I'm just I do want to get your

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impression. You know, as we've

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talked about this process,

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my biggest concern was always

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are we putting too much on

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these PCs plate? Here's the

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plane department controlled all

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this. And I think we've gotten

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to a pretty good place as want

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to make sure that you how you

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guys what your assessment is of

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you can go on appearance.

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>> That was doctor sentence.

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>> While they sit down just to

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be clear, H PCs, only real

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involvement in this is the

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annual creation of an

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endangered homes list.

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other players involved. City

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that's kind of limited to that.

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something did.

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the mission of HPC that we

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should be able to look outside

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the traditional scope of your

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of your

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your body is able to do.

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he's a contributing structures

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that are historic value.

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just on. You guys want it.

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it becomes a landmark than

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that, actually, does that

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a significant amount of money

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question staff because they're

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the ones that

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do those books in the research

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on making a project like land

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marking. But I have a question.

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I think this is a Karla perhaps

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under the eligibility on the

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list of 76.1 of 3

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where we're identifying.

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the for the eligibility to do

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like the residential building

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must be contributing structure

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within locally dozen historic

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district or individual limerick

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or and or whatever.

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>> On this exhibit A list and

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or what we're not in this land

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or it's on this exhibit A that

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concern her Lucci was

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referencing, be revised.

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>> So yes, in my conversations

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with Councilmember cuts,

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a vice-president Carlucci we

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would add at throughout so

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would be added here to this

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section. Also it and I would

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say the structures that are 50

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within those districts because

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we are trying to pit that's

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what it would need to qualify

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for a landmark or contributing

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structure in a district.

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on the maps, you know, and

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so it would fit in that Section

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idea of doing this. Marco and

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Saint Nicholas probably would

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even suggest doing durkeeville

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as well. I know the express

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interest in getting a part of

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this bill, but will the?

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>> The I personally am very,

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very okay with that. I think

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it's a great idea, especially

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if they're a lot of properties.

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I think, I mean, you and I

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probably get this. I don't

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think in the first couple years

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of this program that we're

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going to be taking 185

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property. So I think it's going

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to be like 7, you know, and

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within 3 years or 8 within 3

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years. So it's really going to

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be, I think, right? I mean,

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because you got to go through

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the legal process, got to make

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sure that we have first

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position for all. We know maybe

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that maybe that owner

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recognizes like, oh, wow,

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summit happening. Let me let me

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starting care of it, right.

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All sorts of stuff can happen

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really can change how this

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really gets enacted. But I'm

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probably fine with adding both

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of those locations who's going

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to drop that map

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and who's going to draw it up

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with by Monday. Notice you look

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in this direction, what?

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>> And we have people.

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>> I'm getting a gun to

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planning. Can do it. You I

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don't think you need it by

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Monday for committee. I think

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articulating San Marco.

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Is there a meme is their map in

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the code for the over late?

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There's got yeah, we can just

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and during committee reference

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that and saying it would make

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us.

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>> Or if there's a specific

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area San Marco that you are

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particularly interested in.

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Honestly, if you just took the

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map and just take a pen,

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an outline what you're looking

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for, we can do not based on

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some streets. All draw the map.

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>> College, many people,

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the insurance and topography.

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Yeah. I mean it honestly,

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like even if the map was why

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are the need to be? I think

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those houses what you did fall,

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they would even qualify for all

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the rest of the safeguards in

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the bill. So I'm comfortable

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eyeballing the same market.

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And Saint Nicholas One will

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probably use the overlay for

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San Marcos. Saint Nicholas is a

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small enough area that, you

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know, it's it's easy to concert

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on the map. Listen, I'm very

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comfortable with that. I'm

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excited. I'm excited that you

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that you are more said about

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this bill, right? I mean,

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I guess this is meant to be

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it's meant to there's a lot of

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folks in the historic

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preservation space. And you

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know this who cares so much.

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And I feel like today they come

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to city hall and like, I mean,

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guys are doing these things.

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And I think that really kind of

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rewarding people who put a lot

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of time and energy.

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>> Yeah, well, I think to just

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to pay back on that, like it's

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a good bill for the historic

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preservationist out there.

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But it's also a good deal for

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lake just normal neighbors and

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community members that inspire

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and I are looking yeah, right

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in their neighborhoods. So,

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yeah, I'm gonna guess I kind of

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gave me this.

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>> Otherwise, though, I also I

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have you. I do want to make

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sure that we're both and I

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think the other

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coming to do says a comfortable

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with the process that exists

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right now. Right? So the

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the city takes of the property

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waves, everything and then

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officer it up to one of the

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historic preservation,

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nonprofits that have these

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different criteria. If they

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don't have the means to take

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it, it goes out to the private

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sector, right? The bid process

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with the minimum bid being

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$10,000.

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>> That way. It's not going to.

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Yeah. I think that's I'm

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comfortable with that. The one

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thing I wanted to

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the step before that, though,

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who identifies as the

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properties

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and they be are they only

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identified by HPC Orkin like

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it's a mark of preservation or

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myself or whoever. I got random

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neighbors say, hey, I know

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about this bill. This house

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next meets been dilapidated

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for, you know, 100 years.

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Can you guys look at this can

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and kind of be 8 proactive for

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the purpose of I think

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when we look at this logically,

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there's probably going to be a

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person to an HPC. That's a

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member of to start the you

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know, what's called summer

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Preservation, right? I mean,

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there's going to be a Lindsay

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type or one of those. I know

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that there's going I got Bill

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Hoffa's was lookign initiate

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the. I don't see why they as a

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body can say, hey, I know these

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4 properties. Let me talk to to

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cut flights and see if there's

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a ton of liens on there.

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Okay. There are going to look

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at that. Body is pretty strong

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like they're going to those

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members. Hpc. Yeah, okay.

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But I guess it straight strong

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mean they did this task force.

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They did all this work. It's

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it's it's Shannon Blankenship

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with Brown, you know, was

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Michael Haskins. It was

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obviously our own staff and

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then a bunch of do voters.

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So what's the process to get

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them to review? It is what I'm

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asking like. Compliance is

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going to put up a list of all

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the houses in these areas that

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have wings. Okay. Cool. That's

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that. If they don't have

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haven't got it. Okay, perfect.

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That's what I'm looking for.

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And then it will be, you know,

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everyone, what kind of discuss

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it. And they'll say which of

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these we actually first

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position on not only beat us.

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>> So be clear. Hpc will not be

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doing any kind of review on

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whether or not it's

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>> legally or,

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>> you know, a sound decision

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to move forward with

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enforcement and many of those

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they are just going to kind of

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create this batch of this list

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of homes. They want people to

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focus on that we need. These

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are not we, but they would say

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we think these are really

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important in danger of being

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last here. Administration.

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Take a look at these. See if

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there's anything can do to

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enforce currently aims.

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Are there any financial

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resources we can focus towards

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these houses and those are

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programs that might be created

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in the future, maybe current

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programs. But

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it's just to highlight, you

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know, the most important

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structures in the city. But

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then it's in the purview of the

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ministration really to her,

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get the ball going into,

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you know, make the ask of the

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GC to do and analysis on

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whether

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what enforcement remedies are

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available, whether that's a

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good policy decision or not.

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>> So could a PC that say,

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like, you know, here's 25

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properties, but it's these 7

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that were pretty sure, really,

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right for the for the second

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here. Administration. Please

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go.

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>> You know, I mean, yeah,

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we left. Don't mind open.

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I didn't put a number. Donna.

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I know we had come to talk to

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like should they do 5? Should

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they do tend we kinda left it

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as well. Let's let them

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do that in in communication

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with the administration

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administration is like, hey,

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last year, we really didn't

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have any we could do anything

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with. Can you give us a

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peerless this year?

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>> Letter? And we also did say

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that it's think I think a

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minimum of once a year, but it

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could be 2 or 3 different

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times. They look at it.

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Its PC and staff have that kind

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of worth.

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>> At least one that we said at

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least one of each calendar

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year. So they could be in

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communication with the

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administration and they ask of,

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hey, could you guys do another

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list? We can really do much

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with them.

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>> With the intent of that was

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if we if reports,

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again, probably not your one,

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but as the years go on or they

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can say, let's do a second

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assessment and the same

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calendar year chair, they

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should be able to do that.

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I think.

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>> Any other college it just

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just ahead. The flow chart,

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right? So code compliance will

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identify. This is just random.

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Made up numbers. 100 properties

509
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with wings, right?

510
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Hugo Chavez of come up with all

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the houses. We have lanes in

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the area.

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>> We have a list of Henri of

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the ability to pull every

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property in Jacksonville,

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right in the fight them as

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historic landmark and then also

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shows the associated fines

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total cumulative and on the

520
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lungs as well. So then you can

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categorize those in the top

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100.

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>> Cool. So you'll have like a

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list of all of the properties

525
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and then that list will get

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filtered out by HPC of like,

527
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okay, these are

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AG realistic ones that we want

529
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to pursue. That will be less

530
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than probably your list of 100

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and then HBC will have a list

532
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and then we'll kind of go to

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the mayor's office and they

534
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might would lay down even

535
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further. So I want to make sure

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when the list first comes out

537
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from the compliance, there's

538
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not like a sticker shock and

539
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everyone's like, oh, my gosh is

540
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going to be a 150. These they

541
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know that's going to get

542
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filtered down. Yes,

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tremendously by HPC. And then

544
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it could get filtered down even

545
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more by the mayor's office.

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The administration at any given

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time and say we're not doing

548
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any of us. Nothing yet. Yep,

549
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just want to make sure they're

550
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all right. And and part of it,

551
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part of the point about sticker

552
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shock might be that people say.

553
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>> Maybe that I I don't live

554
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there in Miami Beach and the

555
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like I I do on that property

556
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with that, I didn't know.

557
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And that may finally get rid of

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this. Like some of those folks

559
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may actively now sell their

560
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property, which might also be

561
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good because now it finally

562
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gets in the hands of hopefully

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some of that. So I mean,

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like now they still have the

565
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means and fines on there,

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but they may sell it to a maybe

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someone else in the

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neighborhood community or

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developer than actually can do

570
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it. So there's there's a part

571
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of me that thinks that may

572
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happen for a few of them.

573
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Yeah, I agree that.

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And so basically there's going

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to be a new exhibit to be

576
00:16:23,190 --> 00:16:24,950
attached to its going to add a

577
00:16:24,950 --> 00:16:25,970
thank you, Bill. And it's going

578
00:16:25,970 --> 00:16:28,330
to add. So we're considering

579
00:16:28,330 --> 00:16:30,900
today they can get what I just

580
00:16:30,900 --> 00:16:31,200
want to get it for the whole

581
00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:31,840
thing

582
00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,460
that will not say twice or

583
00:16:34,460 --> 00:16:35,370
ever.

584
00:16:35,370 --> 00:16:37,120
>> Durkee Villard Turkey Garden

585
00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,660
Durkee gardens and that is a

586
00:16:38,660 --> 00:16:40,600
federal to start

587
00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,000
just regret not mistaken.

588
00:16:43,150 --> 00:16:44,150
>> May need to talk about if

589
00:16:44,150 --> 00:16:46,670
there's a map. So I'm clear

590
00:16:46,670 --> 00:16:48,530
unlike committees and what a

591
00:16:48,530 --> 00:16:50,580
carrier it. I don't have it.

592
00:16:50,580 --> 00:16:51,650
>> We do have overlay for that

593
00:16:51,650 --> 00:16:53,000
one. Okay. They're dirty.

594
00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,970
Got these.

595
00:16:54,970 --> 00:16:55,910
>> So we had talked about,

596
00:16:55,910 --> 00:16:57,940
including that threw out so not

597
00:16:57,940 --> 00:17:00,680
only in the they can

598
00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,390
the home of homes over 5 years

599
00:17:02,390 --> 00:17:03,910
in those areas could be on the

600
00:17:03,910 --> 00:17:05,730
endangered

601
00:17:05,730 --> 00:17:06,980
historic homes list created

602
00:17:06,980 --> 00:17:08,880
body to see, but also then

603
00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,880
would also be

604
00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,960
subject to the disposition of

605
00:17:17,300 --> 00:17:19,300
property. Is 22 although

606
00:17:19,830 --> 00:17:21,830
sections.

607
00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:24,600
>> Is there a star as as as we

608
00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:25,750
talked about an overlay,

609
00:17:25,750 --> 00:17:26,870
is there is there not one for

610
00:17:26,870 --> 00:17:27,960
the site as well as there are

611
00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,560
no really friesen of the moment

612
00:17:31,820 --> 00:17:33,370
and that's minister districts

613
00:17:33,370 --> 00:17:35,370
of community.

614
00:17:35,570 --> 00:17:36,460
How big is that? Just for a

615
00:17:36,460 --> 00:17:37,810
look.

616
00:17:37,810 --> 00:17:39,680
There's like 900 properties and

617
00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,680
the district.

618
00:17:42,690 --> 00:17:44,120
>> Let me see my nanny, Diane.

619
00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:45,250
Make sure that communities okay

620
00:17:45,250 --> 00:17:46,740
with that. I think that they

621
00:17:46,740 --> 00:17:48,740
would be.

622
00:17:49,890 --> 00:17:52,890
>> I want to verify, okay.

623
00:17:53,270 --> 00:17:55,270
And may expect

624
00:17:56,730 --> 00:17:58,730
the minute.

625
00:17:59,900 --> 00:18:01,550
>> Also, it changed some of the

626
00:18:01,550 --> 00:18:02,800
headings and the code because

627
00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,240
are first nationally and

628
00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,780
locally designated historic

629
00:18:05,780 --> 00:18:07,910
properties. Recent changes to

630
00:18:07,910 --> 00:18:10,230
that to that will be.

631
00:18:10,230 --> 00:18:11,550
>> Well, if that already you're

632
00:18:11,550 --> 00:18:12,540
right. We did put that in there

633
00:18:12,540 --> 00:18:13,450
and win.

634
00:18:13,450 --> 00:18:14,830
So that would include the side

635
00:18:14,830 --> 00:18:16,100
and are you aren't already for

636
00:18:16,100 --> 00:18:17,310
the most part.

637
00:18:17,310 --> 00:18:19,420
>> In that one section yen are

638
00:18:19,420 --> 00:18:21,820
going to need to 4.61.

639
00:18:23,630 --> 00:18:25,250
We're seeing an ounce,

640
00:18:25,250 --> 00:18:27,150
but it will. It will expand the

641
00:18:27,150 --> 00:18:28,370
definition of a preservation

642
00:18:28,370 --> 00:18:30,370
priority property.

643
00:18:32,570 --> 00:18:33,960
That's like our base definition

644
00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,770
of. If the city owns these

645
00:18:35,770 --> 00:18:37,310
types of historic comes,

646
00:18:37,310 --> 00:18:38,690
how do we dispose of them in

647
00:18:38,690 --> 00:18:41,690
that current definition is just

648
00:18:42,620 --> 00:18:43,740
has to be a contributing

649
00:18:43,740 --> 00:18:46,740
structure or a local landmark.

650
00:18:46,850 --> 00:18:48,380
Okay. So it'll expand that to

651
00:18:48,380 --> 00:18:50,380
include also structures,

652
00:18:50,450 --> 00:18:52,810
50 years old and older in these

653
00:18:52,810 --> 00:18:54,810
too graphic.

654
00:18:55,900 --> 00:18:56,310
There is some are go, Sir

655
00:18:56,310 --> 00:18:57,800
Nicholas

656
00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,800
Turkey.

657
00:18:59,890 --> 00:19:01,980
>> There are an ardent may the

658
00:19:01,980 --> 00:19:04,160
east side, maybe some Normani

659
00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,560
boulevard in the 1.02 EUR.

660
00:19:06,750 --> 00:19:08,640
>> So just to be clear, so then

661
00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,640
it would be

662
00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,100
that it's

663
00:19:12,100 --> 00:19:13,950
with that announcement of the

664
00:19:13,950 --> 00:19:17,550
picture. And it's with in the

665
00:19:17,970 --> 00:19:19,970
it's contributing structure.

666
00:19:20,700 --> 00:19:22,700
>> Or landmark or

667
00:19:22,670 --> 00:19:24,470
>> within this 50 years and

668
00:19:24,470 --> 00:19:25,480
older with in this area

669
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,880
identified on the map,

670
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,580
is that not correct? The second

671
00:19:30,580 --> 00:19:32,580
question? Yeah,

672
00:19:32,790 --> 00:19:34,290
and I don't I would imagine

673
00:19:34,290 --> 00:19:35,150
this can be fixed which is

674
00:19:35,150 --> 00:19:38,150
playing some language. So in

675
00:19:38,300 --> 00:19:40,000
for landmarks and the local

676
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,000
dozen historic districts,

677
00:19:42,900 --> 00:19:44,780
there is a regulatory devised,

678
00:19:44,780 --> 00:19:46,670
the seaways which ensure that

679
00:19:46,670 --> 00:19:48,670
those properties are

680
00:19:50,500 --> 00:19:52,350
we have, according to

681
00:19:52,350 --> 00:19:54,350
preservation standards,

682
00:19:54,780 --> 00:19:56,780
however,

683
00:19:58,150 --> 00:20:00,330
San Marcos cetera, there's not

684
00:20:00,330 --> 00:20:01,150
that same unless it's a

685
00:20:01,150 --> 00:20:02,630
landmark. Well, I think that's

686
00:20:02,630 --> 00:20:03,910
the point is I think if the if

687
00:20:03,910 --> 00:20:04,760
the city does take them,

688
00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,160
they would mark them.

689
00:20:07,870 --> 00:20:09,140
>> And I mean, I don't know

690
00:20:09,140 --> 00:20:11,370
that they're going to

691
00:20:11,370 --> 00:20:12,780
demolished. I wouldn't mind.

692
00:20:12,780 --> 00:20:13,780
>> No, we're not. We're not a

693
00:20:13,780 --> 00:20:16,780
monster. Yeah. And take cover.

694
00:20:17,970 --> 00:20:19,970
>> Yeah. Says

695
00:20:21,110 --> 00:20:23,190
so. I was been just it is a

696
00:20:23,190 --> 00:20:24,170
matter of okay.

697
00:20:24,170 --> 00:20:26,570
>> But when Mark is,

698
00:20:27,890 --> 00:20:30,290
>> are people going to

699
00:20:31,940 --> 00:20:33,200
see that as a deterrent to

700
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,360
taking the property?

701
00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:35,540
>> It's no more determined than

702
00:20:35,540 --> 00:20:36,560
in the areas with his current

703
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,380
overly. But that let me tell

704
00:20:38,380 --> 00:20:40,140
you the same market market

705
00:20:40,140 --> 00:20:41,500
people will be able to whether

706
00:20:41,500 --> 00:20:42,380
or not they have to go to see

707
00:20:42,380 --> 00:20:43,940
in the process. They will see

708
00:20:43,940 --> 00:20:45,260
the value of those homes.

709
00:20:45,260 --> 00:20:46,420
I think San Marco Riverside

710
00:20:46,420 --> 00:20:48,640
Avenue in Springfield will be

711
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,320
it'll be a very robust like

712
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,320
market for developers,

713
00:20:55,260 --> 00:20:56,880
especially in summer prices

714
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,100
will see, right? I mean,

715
00:20:58,100 --> 00:20:59,820
like I becomes a problem and

716
00:20:59,820 --> 00:21:01,130
we'll deal with that. But I

717
00:21:01,130 --> 00:21:01,990
think what most people are

718
00:21:01,990 --> 00:21:04,490
buying a House and Senate work

719
00:21:04,490 --> 00:21:05,930
that that kind of already think

720
00:21:05,930 --> 00:21:07,650
it's historically important.

721
00:21:07,650 --> 00:21:10,340
Yeah, so I don't think there's

722
00:21:10,340 --> 00:21:11,390
going to be like a.

723
00:21:11,390 --> 00:21:13,420
>> A major, major deterrent.

724
00:21:13,420 --> 00:21:14,250
And again, we're talking about

725
00:21:14,250 --> 00:21:16,600
like maybe one home years

726
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,780
thing.

727
00:21:17,780 --> 00:21:19,190
>> So I mean, the the

728
00:21:19,190 --> 00:21:20,280
expectation is that would get

729
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:21,240
him or it wants the city to go

730
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,550
to a process, which yes,

731
00:21:22,550 --> 00:21:24,400
I guess that would mean you

732
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:24,950
guys,

733
00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:26,310
however, you ever

734
00:21:26,310 --> 00:21:27,260
work with some of the same

735
00:21:27,260 --> 00:21:28,170
market preservation to go

736
00:21:28,170 --> 00:21:30,170
through that process.

737
00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:31,940
>> And when I got to say

738
00:21:31,940 --> 00:21:33,370
>> in the late part of it,

739
00:21:33,370 --> 00:21:35,370
because he's just

740
00:21:37,820 --> 00:21:40,280
>> we can take it as it comes.

741
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:41,500
And I think.

742
00:21:41,500 --> 00:21:42,460
>> You know, let's just run

743
00:21:42,460 --> 00:21:43,700
through the mental exercise of

744
00:21:43,700 --> 00:21:45,400
what one of the city doesn't

745
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,280
landmark in Marco property.

746
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,300
Right? And we're talking about

747
00:21:48,300 --> 00:21:50,410
structures that are neglected,

748
00:21:50,410 --> 00:21:53,800
right? Not to the plan like a

749
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:54,410
demolition is imminent because

750
00:21:54,410 --> 00:21:55,790
that, you know, be on saving

751
00:21:55,790 --> 00:21:58,560
but can still be saved

752
00:21:58,560 --> 00:21:59,940
and we get it to someone okay.

753
00:21:59,940 --> 00:22:00,870
They don't have to get to see

754
00:22:00,870 --> 00:22:02,200
you if they can rip out all the

755
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,300
windows and put new windows.

756
00:22:03,300 --> 00:22:04,350
And but also they can do that

757
00:22:04,350 --> 00:22:06,200
anywhere in San Marco. So I

758
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,530
think the purpose of

759
00:22:07,530 --> 00:22:10,170
preserving, you know, some of

760
00:22:10,170 --> 00:22:11,610
the historic structures still

761
00:22:11,610 --> 00:22:12,950
there, right? Even if you don't

762
00:22:12,950 --> 00:22:14,100
have to follow Department of

763
00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:17,100
Interior standards in and file

764
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,170
us, you know, get a seal of

765
00:22:19,170 --> 00:22:20,350
approval for a breath and

766
00:22:20,350 --> 00:22:21,380
Syria. I think I think the

767
00:22:21,380 --> 00:22:23,650
purpose is still filled.

768
00:22:23,650 --> 00:22:24,860
>> Also, let's be clear the

769
00:22:24,860 --> 00:22:26,160
city could do that right now.

770
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,520
If there was a property in San

771
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:28,910
Marco at this very moment that

772
00:22:28,910 --> 00:22:30,630
had a ton of lines and feet let

773
00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:32,740
cleans and fines. The city has

774
00:22:32,740 --> 00:22:34,300
the power at this very moment

775
00:22:34,300 --> 00:22:35,400
to foreclose on the property

776
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:36,300
there in first position.

777
00:22:36,300 --> 00:22:37,570
Yeah, like that does exist is

778
00:22:37,570 --> 00:22:39,470
all meant to create a very

779
00:22:39,470 --> 00:22:40,730
transparent process that for

780
00:22:40,730 --> 00:22:42,730
the purpose of

781
00:22:43,170 --> 00:22:45,900
helping out historically store

782
00:22:45,900 --> 00:22:48,900
properties is now like if

783
00:22:48,700 --> 00:22:50,550
yeah, if they get at the city

784
00:22:50,550 --> 00:22:52,130
takes that property and it's

785
00:22:52,130 --> 00:22:54,130
not as stark

786
00:22:54,340 --> 00:22:56,870
does Mr. Just nation the it

787
00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:57,730
would go back out. They would

788
00:22:57,730 --> 00:23:00,340
go out to bid under the other

789
00:23:00,340 --> 00:23:01,660
program.

790
00:23:01,660 --> 00:23:03,510
>> Yeah. Competitive bidding.

791
00:23:03,510 --> 00:23:04,970
The adjacent landowner. What

792
00:23:04,970 --> 00:23:06,550
isn't?

793
00:23:06,550 --> 00:23:07,730
>> All that's all that would be

794
00:23:07,730 --> 00:23:08,870
different. So it's in the best

795
00:23:08,870 --> 00:23:09,690
interest of this bill and up

796
00:23:09,690 --> 00:23:10,830
preservation that we take the

797
00:23:10,830 --> 00:23:12,650
property. So we take because

798
00:23:12,650 --> 00:23:13,780
the process is proposing on the

799
00:23:13,780 --> 00:23:15,340
property properties foreclosed

800
00:23:15,340 --> 00:23:17,650
upon. The city adds a historic

801
00:23:17,650 --> 00:23:19,150
marker that that we can now go

802
00:23:19,150 --> 00:23:20,500
through the process where they

803
00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:22,300
can go out to a bidding for

804
00:23:22,300 --> 00:23:25,110
system where it's the not that

805
00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:26,480
expensive debate on an sorry.

806
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:27,660
And I were just got the memo.

807
00:23:27,660 --> 00:23:28,990
>> Then that makes sense,

808
00:23:28,990 --> 00:23:30,410
right? I mean, there's got to

809
00:23:30,410 --> 00:23:32,130
be there's got to be a a give

810
00:23:32,130 --> 00:23:33,890
and a take, so to speak of like

811
00:23:33,890 --> 00:23:35,500
if you're going to do this new

812
00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:37,540
outline process, then it then

813
00:23:37,540 --> 00:23:39,290
we wanted to be a historic does

814
00:23:39,290 --> 00:23:40,840
a good structure and that is

815
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,710
the intent of this legislation.

816
00:23:42,710 --> 00:23:43,690
Otherwise, to the point,

817
00:23:43,690 --> 00:23:44,800
why would he why would we even

818
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:45,840
be is that you could just do

819
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,500
this automatically grant.

820
00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:48,800
>> Okay. Alright. Feel

821
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,490
comfortable. Yeah. You gotta do

822
00:23:50,490 --> 00:23:51,950
you guys feel pretty calm?

823
00:23:51,950 --> 00:23:52,880
Will be a more questions about

824
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,880
this week.

825
00:23:56,610 --> 00:23:58,320
>> Yeah, I think it started

826
00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,600
with certainty. What did we

827
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:00,580
were just?

828
00:24:00,580 --> 00:24:02,000
>> In terms of promise for

829
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,380
good, a love this bill. We love

830
00:24:04,380 --> 00:24:05,750
it and we live in tents and for

831
00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:07,600
sure. I think it's a tension.

832
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,700
I love it in contention the

833
00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:11,100
dice.

834
00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:11,970
>> And when flu is going to be

835
00:24:11,970 --> 00:24:15,240
on the about and I really do

836
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,620
hope you mean that, like I

837
00:24:16,620 --> 00:24:18,170
think we all really.

838
00:24:18,170 --> 00:24:19,600
>> You go to other cities.

839
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:20,530
You see what they do when it

840
00:24:20,530 --> 00:24:22,430
comes to preservation. Carla,

841
00:24:22,430 --> 00:24:23,490
to her credit has done an

842
00:24:23,490 --> 00:24:24,780
incredible amount of work on

843
00:24:24,780 --> 00:24:26,430
this. This poor woman has to do

844
00:24:26,430 --> 00:24:27,340
with me for a year.

845
00:24:27,340 --> 00:24:31,400
>> Since my baby, I got a I I

846
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:31,930
feel like it kind of is that

847
00:24:31,930 --> 00:24:34,270
the U.S. for for everyone to

848
00:24:34,270 --> 00:24:36,330
know. I messed with Carlo and I

849
00:24:36,330 --> 00:24:37,710
just called Argo AI were

850
00:24:37,710 --> 00:24:39,500
tossing that bill to the side

851
00:24:39,500 --> 00:24:40,640
to start of the trash. I we

852
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,200
don't need to deal with it

853
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,440
anymore and it was just silence

854
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,400
on the phone.

855
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:46,250
>> You should have heard the

856
00:24:46,250 --> 00:24:47,290
sounds when I called her and

857
00:24:47,290 --> 00:24:48,420
said I have a large amendment

858
00:24:48,420 --> 00:24:49,930
that I would like. Yeah.

859
00:24:49,930 --> 00:24:51,930
>> Like this.

860
00:24:53,530 --> 00:24:55,100
>> Okay. I do have a clear and

861
00:24:55,100 --> 00:24:56,770
does it question because what

862
00:24:56,770 --> 00:24:57,600
you are all were just talking

863
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,500
about was then land marking it

864
00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:01,880
before sending it through a

865
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,830
donation that would mean not

866
00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:05,120
changing the definition of

867
00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:07,120
preservation priority property

868
00:25:07,340 --> 00:25:08,870
requiring it to be a landmark

869
00:25:08,870 --> 00:25:09,790
before it can go through the

870
00:25:09,790 --> 00:25:12,200
donation channel or the like

871
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,850
Big qualification. Getting it

872
00:25:13,850 --> 00:25:15,570
to someone who qualifies

873
00:25:15,570 --> 00:25:17,570
channel for disposition.

874
00:25:19,130 --> 00:25:20,440
Are we good with that? That

875
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,440
means then all.

876
00:25:22,450 --> 00:25:25,820
Let me just read that. Yeah.

877
00:25:25,820 --> 00:25:27,820
So really smart.

878
00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:31,720
So we you know, and

879
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,700
Councilmember Carlucci, you had

880
00:25:33,700 --> 00:25:35,310
said throughout adding San

881
00:25:35,310 --> 00:25:37,470
Marcos, a Nicholas up and

882
00:25:37,470 --> 00:25:38,730
several other places. Now

883
00:25:38,730 --> 00:25:41,280
you're out and you're just

884
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,900
saying now you want it to be

885
00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:44,490
landmark before it can be

886
00:25:44,490 --> 00:25:47,100
disposed of before can be sold

887
00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:48,820
for donation. I thought as

888
00:25:48,820 --> 00:25:50,560
saying he don't wanna change it

889
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:51,480
throughout. We don't. Then we

890
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,730
wouldn't change preservation

891
00:25:52,730 --> 00:25:53,900
priority property because that

892
00:25:53,900 --> 00:25:56,650
definition is has a residential

893
00:25:56,650 --> 00:25:58,830
structure is a contributing

894
00:25:58,830 --> 00:26:01,230
structure, a local landmark.

895
00:26:02,380 --> 00:26:03,690
>> So all I just interject or

896
00:26:03,690 --> 00:26:06,700
there, I don't want it to be,

897
00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:07,610
but I I thought we were saying

898
00:26:07,610 --> 00:26:09,770
it had to be to be kind of

899
00:26:09,770 --> 00:26:10,880
uniform in the rest of this

900
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,390
bill. And I heard them say

901
00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:13,450
light, look at this more work

902
00:26:13,450 --> 00:26:17,780
for them to do that. And but if

903
00:26:17,780 --> 00:26:19,140
that's the process that all the

904
00:26:19,140 --> 00:26:20,740
other properties are going

905
00:26:20,740 --> 00:26:21,930
through, then I think it's the

906
00:26:21,930 --> 00:26:23,500
keep it consistent.

907
00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:24,280
>> Okay. I mean, you know,

908
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,290
I don't

909
00:26:25,290 --> 00:26:26,610
I don't want.

910
00:26:26,610 --> 00:26:27,780
>> San Marcos and includes to

911
00:26:27,780 --> 00:26:28,910
get all freaked out over

912
00:26:28,910 --> 00:26:31,410
whatever. But if that's the

913
00:26:31,410 --> 00:26:33,400
process in order to, you know,

914
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,600
go through the

915
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,320
preservation, kind of angle of

916
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,550
the foreclosure process them

917
00:26:38,550 --> 00:26:40,540
have it.

918
00:26:40,540 --> 00:26:42,130
>> All right, then we'll just

919
00:26:42,130 --> 00:26:43,850
add it to chapter 76, where the

920
00:26:43,850 --> 00:26:44,660
historic Preservation

921
00:26:44,660 --> 00:26:46,290
Commission can add those types

922
00:26:46,290 --> 00:26:47,760
of homes in San Marcos. Even

923
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:48,670
cluster give bill to the

924
00:26:48,670 --> 00:26:51,600
endangered historic homes list

925
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,590
and then the administration act

926
00:26:53,590 --> 00:26:55,430
and one of those and eventually

927
00:26:55,430 --> 00:26:56,750
come to an end. The city come

928
00:26:56,750 --> 00:26:58,330
to own it. They would land

929
00:26:58,330 --> 00:27:00,690
market before being using the

930
00:27:00,690 --> 00:27:02,490
channels of donation to San

931
00:27:02,490 --> 00:27:04,810
Marco preservation or the bid

932
00:27:04,810 --> 00:27:06,810
qualifications. And

933
00:27:07,350 --> 00:27:09,120
>> that said, Councilman think

934
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:10,540
that's okay. I mean, because

935
00:27:10,540 --> 00:27:11,740
we're, you know, having side

936
00:27:11,740 --> 00:27:12,790
conversation. But I think that

937
00:27:12,790 --> 00:27:14,100
that's OK, because I think that

938
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:15,670
there's not going to be that

939
00:27:15,670 --> 00:27:16,720
many of these. And for some

940
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,430
reason that becomes

941
00:27:18,430 --> 00:27:19,840
an issue or something funky

942
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,530
down the road. I just, you

943
00:27:21,530 --> 00:27:23,900
know, we could cement.

944
00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:24,740
>> Legislation that, yeah,

945
00:27:24,740 --> 00:27:26,800
I think they could still do

946
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:27,390
need it

947
00:27:27,390 --> 00:27:28,660
under Florida law. I don't know

948
00:27:28,660 --> 00:27:30,570
that that we could, but yeah,

949
00:27:30,570 --> 00:27:31,770
we can cross that bridge if

950
00:27:31,770 --> 00:27:32,790
that ever come to pass

951
00:27:32,790 --> 00:27:33,820
something and we need to do a

952
00:27:33,820 --> 00:27:35,180
little coating meant he could

953
00:27:35,180 --> 00:27:37,180
do that.

954
00:27:38,550 --> 00:27:39,660
>> I mean, the city owns a 2

955
00:27:39,660 --> 00:27:40,620
like they can obviously just

956
00:27:40,620 --> 00:27:42,300
remove that designation,

957
00:27:42,300 --> 00:27:43,880
right? Well, let's get to go

958
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:44,820
back through to go through the

959
00:27:44,820 --> 00:27:46,640
same interest and some say,

960
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,140
no, I want to amend the bill

961
00:27:48,140 --> 00:27:49,280
like if that became like the

962
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,110
main snag for whatever reason,

963
00:27:52,110 --> 00:27:53,640
Lake City and at that point,

964
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:54,710
yeah, I know you hate that,

965
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:56,700
but.

966
00:27:56,700 --> 00:27:57,810
>> And it was during that he's

967
00:27:57,810 --> 00:27:59,310
likely another. And that is we

968
00:27:59,310 --> 00:28:00,440
don't like Chris and Liam.

969
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,570
>> Of the year. So I guess I'll

970
00:28:02,570 --> 00:28:05,310
be the one to us.

971
00:28:05,310 --> 00:28:06,360
>> As a matter of amendment

972
00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:08,760
3,000, it of these departments.

973
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,430
>> And thanks to an existing to

974
00:28:12,430 --> 00:28:15,600
be done by random citizens of

975
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,830
all right. It's Chris. We've

976
00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:19,500
been pretty silent on menthols.

977
00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:20,970
I'm going on life.

978
00:28:20,970 --> 00:28:23,770
>> And I really don't have much

979
00:28:23,770 --> 00:28:26,100
to add. Like I said, you know,

980
00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:27,880
we're just gonna put that

981
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,330
together for you guys to help

982
00:28:29,330 --> 00:28:31,340
identify these properties and

983
00:28:31,340 --> 00:28:33,520
put a review next month.

984
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,110
>> We do have one public

985
00:28:35,110 --> 00:28:36,530
comment. We will dive right in

986
00:28:36,530 --> 00:28:39,330
Mr. Many come on up. You have

987
00:28:39,330 --> 00:28:40,560
there

988
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,560
2 minutes.

989
00:28:47,260 --> 00:28:51,460
Do you want the whole half hour

990
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,960
if your goals?

991
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,960
>> The station has to do is.

992
00:29:04,410 --> 00:29:07,680
>> They were to what I hear is

993
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,680
the structures of years old.

994
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:12,640
It was just to make that the

995
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,640
city was.

996
00:29:22,930 --> 00:29:27,130
It's great to see you this list

997
00:29:28,660 --> 00:29:32,260
and we see the first patients

998
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,760
in part this positions for

999
00:29:49,340 --> 00:29:52,940
it's also the state to do

1000
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,840
readings

1001
00:30:24,250 --> 00:30:26,250
instead. It's a.

1002
00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:54,940
>> That is 2 minutes, sir.

1003
00:30:54,940 --> 00:30:56,170
We appreciate it. Looking

1004
00:30:56,170 --> 00:30:57,740
forward to seeing you tonight

1005
00:30:57,740 --> 00:30:59,740
and this collection.

1006
00:30:59,810 --> 00:31:02,750
Let's make it 70 years. Thanks.

1007
00:31:02,750 --> 00:31:05,390
7 years honestly does get that

1008
00:31:05,390 --> 00:31:07,470
uses thing. I did kind of thing

1009
00:31:07,470 --> 00:31:08,520
that Mike, that really is from

1010
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:09,840
a wide swathe. That's why when

1011
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,450
most of the homes were donors,

1012
00:31:11,450 --> 00:31:14,330
yes, 60's point is that would

1013
00:31:14,330 --> 00:31:16,800
yes, I mean, I could I could

1014
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:17,130
probably make an argument for

1015
00:31:17,130 --> 00:31:18,840
80, but let's listen to 70.

1016
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:19,990
I really want to sign with the

1017
00:31:19,990 --> 00:31:21,490
2, but I think it makes more

1018
00:31:21,490 --> 00:31:23,490
sense

1019
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,640
and doesn't

1020
00:31:25,930 --> 00:31:27,900
if I just want to overburden

1021
00:31:27,900 --> 00:31:29,900
rather that, yeah, we're going

1022
00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:30,580
to desert you. Yes, out the

1023
00:31:30,580 --> 00:31:32,700
season.

1024
00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:33,600
>> It's due to the Senate.

1025
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:34,670
This is for historic in its

1026
00:31:34,670 --> 00:31:35,730
historic area. Should be easily

1027
00:31:35,730 --> 00:31:37,460
reverse that. Yes, yes. I also

1028
00:31:37,460 --> 00:31:38,590
think that it could be in for a

1029
00:31:38,590 --> 00:31:39,780
number. Yeah. And it could

1030
00:31:39,780 --> 00:31:41,790
spooked normal. Property owners

1031
00:31:41,790 --> 00:31:43,120
just don't know.

1032
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,670
Those don't need these. You

1033
00:31:44,670 --> 00:31:47,670
know, 70's. Yeah, OK? All

1034
00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:50,550
right. I'm okay. With 80 under

1035
00:31:50,550 --> 00:31:52,550
any

1036
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:54,510
just let's just sort of so

1037
00:31:54,510 --> 00:31:56,180
many. Is that okay with you?

1038
00:31:56,180 --> 00:31:58,580
Call it scary, right?

1039
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,680
It was not.

1040
00:32:04,460 --> 00:32:07,200
>> Is a 5 o'clock and at least

1041
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,720
into being at least within 2

1042
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,000
weeks that have been probably

1043
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,000
next week. So.

1044
00:32:14,130 --> 00:32:15,390
>> It goes to committee Monday

1045
00:32:15,390 --> 00:32:17,390
morning, but

1046
00:32:18,500 --> 00:32:20,280
I would leave that up to you.

1047
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,850
You know, in committee, we

1048
00:32:21,850 --> 00:32:22,830
don't need to offer an

1049
00:32:22,830 --> 00:32:23,860
amendment, doesn't need to be

1050
00:32:23,860 --> 00:32:25,550
in writing. But if you think a

1051
00:32:25,550 --> 00:32:28,240
map would be helpful and

1052
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,900
>> it's up to him, OK for the

1053
00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:32,680
next we'll have done needs to

1054
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,600
be done for the enrolled them

1055
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,570
when it's when it goes to

1056
00:32:36,570 --> 00:32:38,570
counsel them.

1057
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,730
>> What committees is go to

1058
00:32:41,730 --> 00:32:44,300
Lou, I think 3 of the 4 rules,

1059
00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:45,800
neighborhoods and roads and

1060
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,520
finance ago city you go to fund

1061
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,920
the only wanted to go to

1062
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,190
say I'm sorry, but

1063
00:32:53,190 --> 00:32:54,500
I was never heads finding you

1064
00:32:54,500 --> 00:32:57,100
come to the podium place.

1065
00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:59,900
>> Not just for the record.

1066
00:32:59,900 --> 00:33:00,430
No of community. Heather.

1067
00:33:00,430 --> 00:33:02,430
Yeah.

1068
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,360
First timer.

1069
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:10,830
>> The neighborhood is to you

1070
00:33:12,350 --> 00:33:14,510
for different. Okay. To little

1071
00:33:14,510 --> 00:33:15,940
surprise action on to you.

1072
00:33:15,940 --> 00:33:17,460
But I mean, all been because

1073
00:33:17,460 --> 00:33:18,920
finance else. We'll see how

1074
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,850
effective is consistently.

1075
00:33:20,850 --> 00:33:22,640
This is not a good bill and I

1076
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:23,660
think we've done such good work

1077
00:33:23,660 --> 00:33:25,550
event.

1078
00:33:25,550 --> 00:33:27,950
The announcement on else

1079
00:33:28,810 --> 00:33:29,000
manager