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>> friendly faces in here.

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want to go around and do some

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cooking or introductions

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also, brian parks, you've got a

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little thing up here. If you

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I don't know why between 2

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council members for her.

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>> he's there to our of city

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council district. One

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bryant park's counselor's

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office.

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>> it afternoon tavern a

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climber redistricting or good

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afternoon monet holder and

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large one

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afternoon jimmy palooza

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>> that's a no reginald

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gaffney. Enjoy your district.

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>> good afternoon. When a

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>> all right. Thank you all.

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think before we even really get

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started, I'd like to do.

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it's great that like to turn it

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over to co-chair a review of

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the chair.

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>> and I appreciate that.

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so I guess the reason why we're

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here, you know, for me lately I

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have received no mayor has

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caused numerous states emails

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and bosses about relief.

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I'm not sure if you guys know

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I'm not. We completed a

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2 billion dollar budget a few

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weeks ago and at the end of the

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meeting,

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opera polls against

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legislation, $200,000. As far

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as really my colleagues,

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those of course, many thought

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would have been doing, I guess,

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came in in the in on budget

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night. So that's why we're here

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today to talk about really,

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you know, some of that all they

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have received a councilman

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gaffney. You know, right now

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rain is high. Gas prices are

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$4.50 thing, you know, food is

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high. We need relief.

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and I question myself and I

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asked myself, is city council

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doing enough?

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you know, so we had this

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conversation has a couple of

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weeks ago at budget me. We also

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had this me and transportation

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utilities, me so tonight when I

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would like to discuss with our

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colleagues to see, are we doing

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enough, you know, whether this

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jta, whether that's a social

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services, whether that's a city

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council committee. So that's

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pretty much why we're here

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today. So thank you, jen.

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>> nothing think. Thank you,

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councilmember you. Yeah.

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great things done by tonight.

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with the first time in years we

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got a real funding for

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affordable housing and it was

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at that time we kind of stood

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up and it was just we're mixing

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a lot of streams and they're

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having to be some frustrated

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faces at the moment. So we

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said, all right, if we're going

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to do to litija assistance,

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let's do it outside the budget

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process.

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and so here we are outside the

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when it comes to funding for

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emergency funding of any kind

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in maney. It may mean that we

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have to go through our our

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reserves.

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and the reason we have reserves

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is it's known as a rainy day

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it's pouring.

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we got a lot of families.

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we got a lot of folks in all of

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our districts that are hurt an

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and and that's their taxpayer

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dollars to. And so, you know,

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kind of research on this,

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the different methods for

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utility assistance within the

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city of jacksonville, jta and

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our nonprofit partners. And and

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so it without further ado,

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I do kind of want to pass it

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off to as good and see kind of

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what you know, what are you

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hearing jta about utility

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assistance and what kind of

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programs the you guys and to

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work with whether be the city

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or with your outside partners.

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you. My name is rene and with

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jay am and government relations

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jta. We do have some challenges

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with our customers. Right now

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we are seeing that our

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customers are having

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trouble paying their bills

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whenever they have trouble

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paying their bills. Jta is

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taking it a step further and we

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have processes in place.

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we have programs in place.

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partners that we work with

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within the city of jacksonville

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like councilman plusa said.

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but we also have a list of

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agencies.

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there's a list of agencies that

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gaa partners with.

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we have set up processes with

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these agencies. So whenever a

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customer calls and they say

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they can't pay their bill,

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we have a manager who was in

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the audience today and we have

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our chief customer experience

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officer who's in the audience

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today. They have set up a pro,

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the process where they can

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assist our customers to call

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those agencies and get them

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assistance if they qualify for

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so some of those agencies that

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we work with. There is 2

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people. There's 3 people that

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work at those agencies. So when

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council incluso called me and

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we talked, we talked about this

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share the the amount that you

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are thinking, it was a little

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bit concerning because I'm not

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sure that the agencies that we

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work with are able to

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funnel all that money to the

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customers that jay is it

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needed.

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so that's kind of a high level.

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we do have processes in place

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for jta customers to call.

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we have got it on rj a website.

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our customer care. Consultants

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are very versed and the agency

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process. And again, we have a

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manager that works really

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closely with our customers as

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thing that I've been hearing

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that amount from folks is,

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hey, there might be past do a

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couple months. And I know you

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guys have some kind of meta

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payment program stuff like

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that. Has there ever been

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and you guys do investigations

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to see like that number does

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seem ridiculously high. Let's

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let's make sure there's not a

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leaper. Something can give you

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sort of back pay for that.

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>> thank you, councilmember.

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so jay does have energy audits

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and water audits and those are

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free service that we have with

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for customers.

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we go in and we look to see if

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your if your meter is

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registering a high consumption

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on your water is there is high

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consumption on your water.

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if it stays high for a month,

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say you have excessive water

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use.

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let's look at your bill.

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you have any leaks in your area

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in your yard. And then if you

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don't see anything than you can

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call us and we'll come out and

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we'll do an audit.

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are very versed in looking at

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the problems, the challenges

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side. Where are our gentleman

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go out and they look at if you

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have weather stripping around

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the windows, if you have

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insulation in your attic,

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there is a bunch of

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conservation things that items

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that we have on jta dot com as

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well. But that's a service that

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we have that we can go out and

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look at your water meter,

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look at your electric meter and

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that's a free service that we

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any other kind of quick

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students hurt in this room that

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we have like a list of

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individuals, not names, but

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approximately how many people

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this van on a utilities,

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no nays.

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I mean, what is it that this is

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hundreds? I mean, I think,

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you know, and if we somehow

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proposed legislation when we

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go, matt, not colleagues,

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we need to let them know this a

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little. We got 3040500 people,

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families that's behind on the

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utility's.

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>> that said through the chair,

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I'd like to introduce

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charles moore, dr. Charles

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moreland. He is our chief

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customer experience officer.

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so this program falls under his

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area and I'll let doctor

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moreland address them.

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everyone. And let me just

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simply say from the very

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beginning and thank you for

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taking the time to have this

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conversation around how we can

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help our customers, our

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communities, our neighbors,

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as we all know, there's an

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alice population that's out

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there that talks about 39 to

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40% of working. People have

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difficulty pan their bills,

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rather, it's utilities, rather,

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is buying groceries, rather is

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health. And the list goes on

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and on. And so for us, jay,

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we're always looking for ways

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in which we can help our

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families, our friends, our

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neighbors, to be able to meet

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those needs and meet them where

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they are. So as it relates to

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how many people are are are

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maybe struggling to take care

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of their utility. Bill, I want

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to get back with you on that

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just to make sure I have an

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accurate answer for you.

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but what I will tell you,

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and it's give you a little bit

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of a glimpse that that there is

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a number and this will give you

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a glimpse of why that I don't

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want to be careful with that.

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so, for example, we talk about

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pay arrangements a lot of times

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when people get on pay

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arrangements. That's because

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there have been some sort of a

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difficulty of meeting there.

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the need monthly their regular

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just pan their their bill.

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we have pale arrangements of to

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6,719 active payment

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arrangements right now. So

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that's a good indicator that a

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little bit of a red fly for us

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pay plans. We have people that

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are on short-term agreements

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tattooing the pay plan. That's

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19,516 active pay plans that

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are out there now my way where

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people are leveraging their

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their leftover of a balance and

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working through that process.

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21,627 current j customers on

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on my way. And so and then I

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can go on with that. But you

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say that there is a healthy

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number of folks that are having

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some challenges paying their

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bills.

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>> thank you very much. I think

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it's very helpful. Other

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another ge related questions

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you might have. Yeah, mclemore.

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thank you, jack. And one of the

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few combat.

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>> I just need you to repeat

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the number in regards to the

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pay arrangements.

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>> the pairing schmidt number

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was 6,719.

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I took payment arrangements

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and then their pay plans,

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which is a short-term agreement

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that provides terms and

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conditions mutually agreed upon

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by the customer in jay to pay a

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pass to that. No later than 51

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days of the bill day and there

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there are about 19,516 pay

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plans for that.

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>> thank you so much. You're

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welcome to it through the

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chair. I know that we do have a

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myriad of organizations that

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assist with.

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>> utility services. Is this

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liz, this good is it?

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>> on coca see as to what jta

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nose or?

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>> through the chair? The

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council member clark murray,

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that is a list of organizations

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that gaa has a process set up

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with. Okay. So we've worked

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with them. We vetted them.

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we know that there as an

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organization that can help our

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customers.

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>> and when you say process,

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do you mean any of these type

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of arrangements that dr more

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limited?

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>> so the arrangements dr

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moreland mention is internal to

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jta customers.

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so what you're looking at

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clinton tyrants like murray is

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is all of the agencies that jay

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works with when our customers

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are behind him pass to. Okay.

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thank you so much for that.

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and then I know that.

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>> this going on the city's

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website, we have the emergency

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assistance program and if I'm

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not mistaken, I think parks may

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have.

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>> 2 senior show says I'm

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looking back as I've been

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staring at you and even when

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was she stared at me because I

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know.

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>> would you do you have any

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data for us? Can you come up

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and talk about that? If you

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>> have any data through that

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area, if you don't mind because

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the city does offer quite a few

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programs as well, many think

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it's just I'm sorry going,

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please but ice. And once again,

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because this is a large city

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and we do a lot at the

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disconnect is making sure that

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people know about those

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programs. If you could talk

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about 2 things at the introduce

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yourself and of course, you

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know, your dress,

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the program itself and how.

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>> it's communicated to the the

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to the community at large to

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know, but to know that this

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assistance is available for

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them.

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>> it'll get there we go.

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>> good afternoon. 3 robinson

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chief of senior services.

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my address is on and through

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the chair. The program that

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you're referring to is our

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emergency heating energy

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assistance program also known

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as e he is specifically

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services, older adults in the

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community individual 60 years

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and older. Those funds were

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available to us through june

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30th of this year. Our contract

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has since expired and we are

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waiting to renew that contract

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with the provider was

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eldersource and their

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representatives from

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eldersource here today. We do

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advertise that a program

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throughout a multi multiple

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ways throughout the community,

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specifically in our senior

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centers. We provide information

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the our social media. It is

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also available on the city of

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jacksonville's website where

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individuals can request support

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the my jax.

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>> thank you so much for that.

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do you have any data as to how

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many seniors you have served?

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>> so in total, for instance,

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this year at the conclusion of

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our contract on june 30th,

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we had awarded approximately

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$114,000 in crisis support.

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we were averaging about if the

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seniors per month and that

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contract ran from july one of

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2025 to june 30th of 2026.

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>> thank you.

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they had to say.

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>> I do have one question.

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do just for senior citizens,

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correct? That's correct.

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for this year. 6 devices up on

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all the guide us through the

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chair. 60 and older are 6 and a

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look like

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I don't believe you're eligible

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that we have.

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>> now to that end, though,

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actually, actually the council

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hold or do you want to chime in

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on this?

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>> I do have a question for you

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said there were 100 in $14,000

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awarded in crisis support.

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but how many and folks in

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elders and the elderly

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population would actually serve

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is do we know the number?

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>> I don't have that number

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readily available.

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>> for instance, I have an

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average number. And on average

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we were assisting 50 family or

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50 seniors per month.

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>> and do we know when that

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contract ended with those

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seniors roll into any of the

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existing programs where they?

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>> as those and to my

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knowledge, it would have been

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itself elect. We don't auto

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role individuals into any of

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the additional programming

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that's available. There are

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some caps and limits so it

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varies from individual to

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individual.

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>> understood. Thank you.

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and I have one more question

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for renee. So on this, she

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lists there's a few here,

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organizations that you will

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work with the financial

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assistance before the ones that

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don't provide financial

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assistance and you like food or

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shelter and housing. How do you

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all work with them to just

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identify that there is a

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financial need and then try to

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help them get food assistance

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to maybe set why they can't pay

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their utility bill. I'm just

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trying to figure out why these

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additional organizations on the

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sheet.

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>> through the chair to

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councilmember holder said this

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is a sheet that we give out

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whenever we have our senior day

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at j. So we try to incorporate

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all the information that we can

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to help our seniors. So this is

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a pamphlet that's passed out at

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our senior day.

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>> ok and dr. Michael morley,

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if you have an easy question

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before us.

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thank you. Thank you.

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>> this pamphlet is to just

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provide our seniors and others

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that come to rj a headquarters

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with all the wraparound

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services that could be

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potentially available to them

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if they needed not everyone is

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coming for utility assistance.

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some folks may be coming to

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home repair or food assistance

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or sheltering or veteran

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services. So we just wanted to

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provide all of this information

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and one location for our

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college visors to be able to

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provide to the citizens that

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come in or for the individuals

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that actually call him jta and

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looking for and reaching out

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for information. The next thing

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I just wanted to mention this

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about seniors since we were on

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that conversation, we do singer

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day the 3rd wednesday of every

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month over a j headquarters.

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and so for fy, 26 said just

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send it. We had 658 seniors

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that attend it senior day with

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approximately 70 attending for

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the first time and 127 of those

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seniors received 6, $67,233.72

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and direct utility assistance

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and fy. 26. So the city and

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others. That's why you see the

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city on on this list of

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partners that are at our senior

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day activities as well. So we

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all partner together trying to

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help our neighbors, our

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friends, our families, our our

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community, as best as we

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possibly can.

580
00:18:58,610 --> 00:18:59,590
>> thank you, doctor. And it

581
00:18:59,590 --> 00:19:01,170
might just a real quick

582
00:19:01,170 --> 00:19:02,720
question at the heap

583
00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,700
surgery.

584
00:19:04,700 --> 00:19:06,510
so those dollars can just go to

585
00:19:06,510 --> 00:19:08,100
like one month's worth of

586
00:19:08,100 --> 00:19:09,890
assistance. And is it an entire

587
00:19:09,890 --> 00:19:11,710
month's worth of

588
00:19:11,710 --> 00:19:12,730
payment or do you go to a

589
00:19:12,730 --> 00:19:14,560
certain dollar number?

590
00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:15,520
>> that threw the chair.

591
00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,600
what we do is pay their paths

592
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,350
do for the electrical portion

593
00:19:19,350 --> 00:19:20,720
of their bill. So whatever

594
00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,100
number that is, whatever that

595
00:19:22,100 --> 00:19:23,510
number is, is that it is the

596
00:19:23,510 --> 00:19:25,920
past due amount per cent.

597
00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,240
thank you much.

598
00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,640
and that can please.

599
00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:31,770
>> but before you thank you for

600
00:19:31,770 --> 00:19:33,840
that to its employee that I put

601
00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,410
on record and I want to

602
00:19:36,410 --> 00:19:38,300
embarrass and one. But

603
00:19:38,300 --> 00:19:40,130
quite often I get calls from

604
00:19:40,130 --> 00:19:42,600
constituents.

605
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:43,590
that's 8 when we reach out to

606
00:19:43,590 --> 00:19:45,900
these pardons. What is jay a 2,

607
00:19:45,900 --> 00:19:47,900
1, 1, 6, on the city.

608
00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:50,700
people not picking up the phone

609
00:19:50,700 --> 00:19:52,200
and I know how funding are we

610
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,960
call and the doors are closed.

611
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,650
so, you know, you know, I'm not

612
00:19:57,650 --> 00:19:58,850
sure what happened that that is

613
00:19:58,850 --> 00:20:01,110
me in, but I think is critical

614
00:20:01,110 --> 00:20:03,530
that we could at least evaluate

615
00:20:03,530 --> 00:20:05,480
the process because

616
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:06,640
it's good to have these

617
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,960
services. But I promise you if

618
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,390
I have a constituent call them

619
00:20:10,390 --> 00:20:13,360
are. And it is 15 companies

620
00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:16,590
that the term dow but 13 of 14

621
00:20:16,590 --> 00:20:18,430
and most willing to be anyone

622
00:20:18,430 --> 00:20:20,900
here that they happened to be

623
00:20:20,900 --> 00:20:21,970
the column. I 9 o'clock.

624
00:20:21,970 --> 00:20:23,800
it'll be hard for them to get

625
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:24,700
assistance and then what they

626
00:20:24,700 --> 00:20:26,440
do in this column office.

627
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,280
and that's the issues that here

628
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:29,970
that hey, so and that may

629
00:20:29,970 --> 00:20:31,170
explain, I'm doing is called

630
00:20:31,170 --> 00:20:32,730
the ceo of his company, calling

631
00:20:32,730 --> 00:20:34,500
itself, you know, say, hey,

632
00:20:34,500 --> 00:20:36,230
no one at picking up. So that's

633
00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:37,650
one of the biggest challenges

634
00:20:37,650 --> 00:20:39,520
that half as well that the

635
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,520
process, these automated

636
00:20:42,780 --> 00:20:45,500
dow, 30 dupree's find the top

637
00:20:45,500 --> 00:20:47,880
that I it's not working for me.

638
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,300
you know, it's I'm not sure

639
00:20:49,300 --> 00:20:50,640
what we could do about the

640
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,640
partisan evaluate

641
00:20:53,750 --> 00:20:55,450
the process. But I think I need

642
00:20:55,450 --> 00:20:57,170
to be changed to also want to

643
00:20:57,170 --> 00:20:58,280
add one more thing that I think

644
00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,500
it's very important. I got a

645
00:20:59,500 --> 00:21:01,500
lot of calls

646
00:21:01,540 --> 00:21:03,370
and a lot of questions and

647
00:21:03,370 --> 00:21:05,210
people have asked me while the

648
00:21:05,210 --> 00:21:07,120
che go up

649
00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:08,410
on a rate

650
00:21:08,410 --> 00:21:09,390
and I think it's important to

651
00:21:09,390 --> 00:21:11,910
put that our record because

652
00:21:11,910 --> 00:21:13,300
that's when the major things I

653
00:21:13,300 --> 00:21:16,900
got wind now, could they have

654
00:21:16,900 --> 00:21:17,980
waited?

655
00:21:17,980 --> 00:21:19,900
>> so it through the chair to

656
00:21:19,900 --> 00:21:20,520
councilmember gaffney. First of

657
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,800
all,

658
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:23,970
we hear your concerns about the

659
00:21:23,970 --> 00:21:26,110
agency's and when councilmember

660
00:21:26,110 --> 00:21:28,800
palou so called me about this,

661
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,400
I called our manager who who

662
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:32,960
takes care of our customers and

663
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:33,860
our customers assistance

664
00:21:33,860 --> 00:21:35,980
program. And I was informed

665
00:21:35,980 --> 00:21:37,340
that some of these agencies,

666
00:21:37,340 --> 00:21:39,590
they have 2 people, they have 3

667
00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:41,100
people. So they don't have the

668
00:21:41,100 --> 00:21:44,100
bandwidth to answer the calls,

669
00:21:44,270 --> 00:21:46,900
to make the appointments to do

670
00:21:46,900 --> 00:21:48,760
the intake, to do what it takes

671
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:49,860
to actually service these

672
00:21:49,860 --> 00:21:52,200
customers. So that's that's

673
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,450
also a concern that that we

674
00:21:54,450 --> 00:21:55,690
might need to look at going

675
00:21:55,690 --> 00:21:57,690
forward.

676
00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,560
if I could.

677
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,230
I bring up ted phillips,

678
00:22:02,230 --> 00:22:05,180
who is our cf of j. A

679
00:22:05,180 --> 00:22:07,900
todd phillips is the one who

680
00:22:07,900 --> 00:22:08,990
manages all of our rates,

681
00:22:08,990 --> 00:22:11,370
all of our our financials.

682
00:22:11,370 --> 00:22:12,890
he's the one who's able to

683
00:22:12,890 --> 00:22:16,250
address the reason that j a had

684
00:22:16,250 --> 00:22:18,250
a rate increase.

685
00:22:19,980 --> 00:22:21,230
>> I don't know if I'm calling

686
00:22:21,230 --> 00:22:23,210
for the government. This talk

687
00:22:23,210 --> 00:22:24,510
loud. How's that?

688
00:22:24,510 --> 00:22:26,750
so, yes, my name is ted

689
00:22:26,750 --> 00:22:28,850
phillips on the cfo. Jay.

690
00:22:28,850 --> 00:22:30,930
so to your question, why now or

691
00:22:30,930 --> 00:22:32,280
write what like it? Why can't

692
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,610
we wait a few years, right?

693
00:22:34,610 --> 00:22:37,880
so a couple of things. So one

694
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,640
we're seeing the same increases

695
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,910
that are our consumer customers

696
00:22:42,910 --> 00:22:44,720
are right. You talked about

697
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,120
fuel gasoline, right? So

698
00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:51,100
our trucks

699
00:22:51,730 --> 00:22:53,460
drive about 11 and a half

700
00:22:53,460 --> 00:22:55,790
million miles every year to

701
00:22:55,790 --> 00:22:57,820
service our customers. So we're

702
00:22:57,820 --> 00:22:59,740
having to put gasoline and

703
00:22:59,740 --> 00:23:01,560
diesel into those trucks just

704
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,900
like our customers are having

705
00:23:03,900 --> 00:23:06,410
to put gasoline into their car

706
00:23:06,410 --> 00:23:07,980
so they can get to work every

707
00:23:07,980 --> 00:23:09,940
day, too. So those additional

708
00:23:09,940 --> 00:23:13,540
cost we have to pass along.

709
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,760
also the fact that we are

710
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,370
building a lot of new

711
00:23:17,370 --> 00:23:19,370
infrastructure. So

712
00:23:19,370 --> 00:23:21,540
right now we're in the process

713
00:23:21,540 --> 00:23:23,500
of building a new combined

714
00:23:23,500 --> 00:23:25,110
cycle plant, which cost about

715
00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:27,110
1.5 billion dollars.

716
00:23:27,740 --> 00:23:30,510
and so that plant, the biggest

717
00:23:30,510 --> 00:23:31,790
thing that is going to do is

718
00:23:31,790 --> 00:23:33,510
it's going to replace another

719
00:23:33,510 --> 00:23:36,130
natural gas plant we have

720
00:23:36,130 --> 00:23:39,130
that went into service in 1977,

721
00:23:39,340 --> 00:23:41,860
so that that plan is almost 50

722
00:23:41,860 --> 00:23:45,200
years old. We are seeing a lot

723
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,550
of reliability issues with that

724
00:23:47,550 --> 00:23:50,220
plant. And so it is time for

725
00:23:50,220 --> 00:23:53,100
us. It's we're late. We should

726
00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:55,100
have already replaced plant.

727
00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:56,640
and so we're having to pay the

728
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,640
debt service on that plan as we

729
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:00,830
borrow money to build it.

730
00:24:00,830 --> 00:24:02,830
so

731
00:24:04,140 --> 00:24:06,430
our rate, it's a are the way

732
00:24:06,430 --> 00:24:08,520
that we have to collect money

733
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,110
to pay for that. And I know

734
00:24:10,110 --> 00:24:12,160
that I mean, that's not good.

735
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,230
but

736
00:24:13,230 --> 00:24:14,720
that one is that I mean good.

737
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,390
so

738
00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:18,790
I hope that helps.

739
00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:21,440
>> thank you for one coach.

740
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,600
are you thinking when you just

741
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,190
voiced is the frustrations that

742
00:24:26,190 --> 00:24:27,200
I think we've all heard

743
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,740
consistently from our

744
00:24:28,740 --> 00:24:30,300
constituents and you did in

745
00:24:30,300 --> 00:24:31,680
such a way that I think was

746
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,410
as kind as it could be, because

747
00:24:33,410 --> 00:24:35,200
I think we all get those calls.

748
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,190
and I've heard the same thing

749
00:24:36,190 --> 00:24:37,380
about like all this person call

750
00:24:37,380 --> 00:24:38,310
that person. There's nothing

751
00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:40,210
there, what's going on. And we

752
00:24:40,210 --> 00:24:41,230
did just passed the budget.

753
00:24:41,230 --> 00:24:42,590
so a lot of these organizations

754
00:24:42,590 --> 00:24:43,700
should have some funding right

755
00:24:43,700 --> 00:24:45,510
now, which is a good thing,

756
00:24:45,510 --> 00:24:46,580
but for the purposes of making

757
00:24:46,580 --> 00:24:48,170
sure that we have long-term

758
00:24:48,170 --> 00:24:50,410
longevity and making sure that

759
00:24:50,410 --> 00:24:52,130
we have the ability to help

760
00:24:52,130 --> 00:24:54,140
these families for a while.

761
00:24:54,140 --> 00:24:55,560
I think we're going to mean

762
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:56,790
some weird economic times for a

763
00:24:56,790 --> 00:24:58,500
while. And the reason why I

764
00:24:58,500 --> 00:24:59,290
think this is necessary now is

765
00:24:59,290 --> 00:25:00,280
because inflation is higher

766
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,700
than it should be. Gas prices

767
00:25:02,700 --> 00:25:04,100
are $2 higher. Then they were a

768
00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:06,100
year ago, right?

769
00:25:06,260 --> 00:25:07,600
I'm gonna blame to see on this

770
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,190
one. I am. You can you can not.

771
00:25:11,190 --> 00:25:12,670
that's why we're in the

772
00:25:12,670 --> 00:25:13,940
position that we're in. The

773
00:25:13,940 --> 00:25:15,490
economy is in a very poor place

774
00:25:15,490 --> 00:25:16,510
to build. The dollar that

775
00:25:16,510 --> 00:25:17,900
people have in their hand is

776
00:25:17,900 --> 00:25:18,870
weaker today than it was a

777
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:19,890
while ago. And now everything

778
00:25:19,890 --> 00:25:21,330
else is getting more expensive.

779
00:25:21,330 --> 00:25:22,850
so I know that we as a city

780
00:25:22,850 --> 00:25:25,250
government can do limited

781
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,400
staff, we can do utility

782
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,250
assistance. Ga needs to make

783
00:25:29,250 --> 00:25:31,220
sure that it's able to

784
00:25:31,220 --> 00:25:33,100
do power generation. We need to

785
00:25:33,100 --> 00:25:34,240
generate our electricity is

786
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,270
that we're not beholden to fpl.

787
00:25:37,270 --> 00:25:39,270
duke energy, private

788
00:25:39,610 --> 00:25:41,880
corporations. That's that's why

789
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,450
it's that's why I'm I'm

790
00:25:43,450 --> 00:25:45,510
comfortable. The ga is moving

791
00:25:45,510 --> 00:25:46,960
forward on some their

792
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,000
activities because they told us

793
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,470
they would have the past

794
00:25:49,470 --> 00:25:50,840
several years. We had prior

795
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,280
administrations put us in this

796
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:53,670
position. I'm just going to put

797
00:25:53,670 --> 00:25:55,280
that out or what I will say is

798
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,390
as we are seeing family

799
00:25:56,390 --> 00:25:57,720
struggle now we have the

800
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,720
ability out

801
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,310
and specially as we wait out

802
00:26:01,310 --> 00:26:03,280
this bad economy and maybe

803
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,970
other things in dc

804
00:26:04,970 --> 00:26:06,350
I do want to bring up, you

805
00:26:06,350 --> 00:26:08,130
know, the way that's okay.

806
00:26:08,130 --> 00:26:09,600
we do have a limited amount of

807
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:09,990
time in here and I want to make

808
00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:11,590
sure that we're digging into

809
00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:13,000
the other programs and why.

810
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,720
and frankly, I think, you know,

811
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,500
credit if you if you can speak

812
00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:17,120
to this, some of the

813
00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:18,290
frustration that counselor

814
00:26:18,290 --> 00:26:19,950
gaffney brought up like,

815
00:26:19,950 --> 00:26:21,170
why is it that when some people

816
00:26:21,170 --> 00:26:22,740
call you were having issues?

817
00:26:22,740 --> 00:26:23,660
and I think I think maybe you

818
00:26:23,660 --> 00:26:25,130
can help explain some of that

819
00:26:25,130 --> 00:26:26,290
and hopefully help us with a

820
00:26:26,290 --> 00:26:27,500
solution.

821
00:26:27,500 --> 00:26:29,170
>> to the chair, I'm probably

822
00:26:29,170 --> 00:26:30,960
the shortest one. So I was

823
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,610
standing name for the record

824
00:26:32,610 --> 00:26:34,500
and for the record so that your

825
00:26:34,500 --> 00:26:37,300
career to heal my with as chief

826
00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:38,460
operating officer with united

827
00:26:38,460 --> 00:26:39,790
way of northeast florida

828
00:26:39,790 --> 00:26:42,190
addresses on file. Thank you

829
00:26:42,190 --> 00:26:44,130
for this conversation again

830
00:26:44,130 --> 00:26:46,210
into the chair. First, I'd just

831
00:26:46,210 --> 00:26:48,890
like to say and share and that

832
00:26:48,890 --> 00:26:51,600
this is a very big in real

833
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,260
concern for our community.

834
00:26:53,260 --> 00:26:55,330
and I will also show that even

835
00:26:55,330 --> 00:26:57,730
before the rate increases,

836
00:26:57,860 --> 00:26:59,240
our families have been

837
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,290
struggling. And I know that

838
00:27:00,290 --> 00:27:01,620
we've we've share that our

839
00:27:01,620 --> 00:27:03,100
families can have struggled in

840
00:27:03,100 --> 00:27:04,600
the rate increase is going to

841
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:05,650
exacerbate that.

842
00:27:05,650 --> 00:27:06,880
what I like to give you are a

843
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,400
few dayton numbers from us and

844
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,510
give you a little bit more

845
00:27:10,510 --> 00:27:11,450
share a little bit more about

846
00:27:11,450 --> 00:27:13,410
the process at 2, 1, 1,

847
00:27:13,410 --> 00:27:14,790
what I can share with you is

848
00:27:14,790 --> 00:27:16,540
that someone at 2, 1, 1,

849
00:27:16,540 --> 00:27:18,410
will eventually answer the

850
00:27:18,410 --> 00:27:20,290
phone. However, what I can tell

851
00:27:20,290 --> 00:27:22,300
you is that depending on the

852
00:27:22,300 --> 00:27:24,600
timing of that call are wait,

853
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,840
times are longer. And I want to

854
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,100
give you a little more insight

855
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:29,620
on the process. So 2, 1,

856
00:27:29,620 --> 00:27:31,380
1, we have a community of

857
00:27:31,380 --> 00:27:33,380
community navigation network

858
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,980
of partners, probably some of

859
00:27:35,980 --> 00:27:37,640
those on your list. One of them

860
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,690
is here today. Catholic

861
00:27:38,690 --> 00:27:40,180
charities to his family,

862
00:27:40,180 --> 00:27:42,470
community services and desk are

863
00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:44,440
3 of our community navigation

864
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,120
partners. Right now. We're

865
00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:47,870
looking to expand that.

866
00:27:47,870 --> 00:27:50,270
what 2, 1, 1, provides is we

867
00:27:50,770 --> 00:27:53,300
are the hub, which answers the

868
00:27:53,300 --> 00:27:55,460
calls. And also does the priest

869
00:27:55,460 --> 00:27:57,860
screening for appointments that

870
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,670
we know are available during a

871
00:28:00,670 --> 00:28:02,580
current week. So, for example,

872
00:28:02,580 --> 00:28:05,390
this week, my colleague in my a

873
00:28:05,390 --> 00:28:07,380
staff member who leads to 1,

874
00:28:07,380 --> 00:28:09,150
1, received converse or had

875
00:28:09,150 --> 00:28:10,210
conversations with these

876
00:28:10,210 --> 00:28:12,280
partners, they indicated based

877
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,680
on their funding availability,

878
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,690
how many appointments they and

879
00:28:16,690 --> 00:28:19,190
also how many appointments and

880
00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:20,530
based on those eligibility

881
00:28:20,530 --> 00:28:22,210
requirements, every funding

882
00:28:22,210 --> 00:28:23,630
source also has a different

883
00:28:23,630 --> 00:28:25,100
eligibility requirement.

884
00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:27,840
so it is a very complex,

885
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,990
wham, because it not only is it

886
00:28:30,990 --> 00:28:32,170
about, you know, getting an

887
00:28:32,170 --> 00:28:33,450
appointment for a person who is

888
00:28:33,450 --> 00:28:34,930
in need of help, but also

889
00:28:34,930 --> 00:28:36,390
making sure they're eligible.

890
00:28:36,390 --> 00:28:39,100
and we provide that service to

891
00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:40,880
these organizations so that by

892
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:41,890
the time they reach the

893
00:28:41,890 --> 00:28:44,260
organization, it helps cut out

894
00:28:44,260 --> 00:28:46,540
some of the port, the complex,

895
00:28:46,540 --> 00:28:48,140
red tape and paperwork. And

896
00:28:48,140 --> 00:28:49,160
they already know there are at

897
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,700
least look at least eligible as

898
00:28:51,700 --> 00:28:52,920
long as they show up with their

899
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,740
required paperwork. So that is

900
00:28:54,740 --> 00:28:57,290
what we do. And once at the end

901
00:28:57,290 --> 00:28:59,910
of the h week on tuesday,

902
00:28:59,910 --> 00:29:01,770
those are the calls that we get

903
00:29:01,770 --> 00:29:03,280
for emergency financial

904
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,930
assistance, people who are

905
00:29:04,930 --> 00:29:07,520
aware that they are calling in

906
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:08,940
to give you an idea of the

907
00:29:08,940 --> 00:29:10,360
scale of the volume of those

908
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:11,800
calls, we receive an average of

909
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,800
about 500 calls on a tuesday

910
00:29:15,330 --> 00:29:17,730
and we have 7 individuals

911
00:29:18,150 --> 00:29:19,940
fielding those calls. So that

912
00:29:19,940 --> 00:29:21,510
is why I say we will answer the

913
00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:22,930
call,

914
00:29:22,930 --> 00:29:25,900
but there is a wait time and

915
00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:26,590
that wait, time on a tuesday

916
00:29:26,590 --> 00:29:28,430
can be an average of about 30

917
00:29:28,430 --> 00:29:30,760
to 45 minutes. And when we get

918
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,760
calls into 1, 1, individuals

919
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,290
who called to 1, 1, they have

920
00:29:34,290 --> 00:29:36,690
already likely exacerbated many

921
00:29:36,940 --> 00:29:38,820
times. They call to one win for

922
00:29:38,820 --> 00:29:40,840
the last resort because there

923
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,680
are so many other

924
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,370
organizations, many of them

925
00:29:43,370 --> 00:29:44,650
know those organizations and

926
00:29:44,650 --> 00:29:46,330
they may go directly to them.

927
00:29:46,330 --> 00:29:48,140
but the community navigation

928
00:29:48,140 --> 00:29:49,660
network that I mentioned,

929
00:29:49,660 --> 00:29:51,890
they purposely field. Those

930
00:29:51,890 --> 00:29:53,250
calls are asked their clients

931
00:29:53,250 --> 00:29:54,600
the call to win one for the

932
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,200
purposes of us being able to

933
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,200
not only collect the data,

934
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,270
but also to help navigate that

935
00:30:01,270 --> 00:30:02,170
network a little more

936
00:30:02,170 --> 00:30:04,000
successfully. The other data

937
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,900
point that I'll share with you

938
00:30:05,900 --> 00:30:06,650
is just on utility assistance

939
00:30:06,650 --> 00:30:09,650
alone in duval county last

940
00:30:09,930 --> 00:30:11,870
fiscal year for u.s. Beginning

941
00:30:11,870 --> 00:30:14,160
july one through june, 30th,

942
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,560
5100 calls were connected in

943
00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:19,290
appointments made to one of

944
00:30:19,290 --> 00:30:21,210
these organizations to have the

945
00:30:21,210 --> 00:30:22,850
utilities taking care of.

946
00:30:22,850 --> 00:30:25,850
so 5,100 people plus did get

947
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,520
their needs met at that

948
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:28,930
particular moment.

949
00:30:28,930 --> 00:30:30,120
on the other side of that,

950
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,570
though, we also track unmet

951
00:30:32,570 --> 00:30:34,850
needs in for 2, 1, 1, for us

952
00:30:34,850 --> 00:30:36,790
and unmet need means either the

953
00:30:36,790 --> 00:30:37,940
funding was no longer

954
00:30:37,940 --> 00:30:39,980
available. So we did have an

955
00:30:39,980 --> 00:30:41,680
appointment to provide or we

956
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,640
didn't have a resource to give.

957
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,640
and that number is 1159 unmet

958
00:30:47,630 --> 00:30:49,340
need specifically to utility

959
00:30:49,340 --> 00:30:50,280
assistance. That doesn't

960
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,310
include the other emergency

961
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:53,460
financial assistance we've

962
00:30:53,460 --> 00:30:55,300
talked about this is we hear

963
00:30:55,300 --> 00:30:56,330
about utilities out. Give you

964
00:30:56,330 --> 00:30:58,220
that number. The other thing

965
00:30:58,220 --> 00:30:59,350
that I would like to say is

966
00:30:59,350 --> 00:31:01,100
that partnership is imperative

967
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:02,410
and that is the reason that 2,

968
00:31:02,410 --> 00:31:04,280
1, 1, united way to win one is

969
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,900
in this business because we

970
00:31:06,900 --> 00:31:08,800
connect the dots. Our role is

971
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,290
at that as a hub is to connect

972
00:31:10,290 --> 00:31:11,490
those dots in the community.

973
00:31:11,490 --> 00:31:12,670
we are grateful for our

974
00:31:12,670 --> 00:31:14,470
partnership with j a we

975
00:31:14,470 --> 00:31:15,370
actually provide the

976
00:31:15,370 --> 00:31:16,700
appointments for those senior

977
00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:18,680
days through 2, 1, 1, so

978
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,440
seniors call in to get their

979
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,840
appointments for senior day.

980
00:31:23,210 --> 00:31:25,270
the other thing that I will

981
00:31:25,270 --> 00:31:27,160
mention just in yield the floor

982
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,160
back is that

983
00:31:29,530 --> 00:31:33,130
hour wait. Times are are also

984
00:31:33,510 --> 00:31:36,200
increasing because of a number

985
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,700
of of community issues that

986
00:31:38,700 --> 00:31:39,430
have increased, including

987
00:31:39,430 --> 00:31:41,520
transportation and what we have

988
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,110
seen through our data because

989
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:45,700
we capture every day to from

990
00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:47,800
every zip code and we can share

991
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,790
with every council member here

992
00:31:49,790 --> 00:31:52,190
and transportation needs have

993
00:31:52,260 --> 00:31:54,660
become increasingly or even

994
00:31:55,250 --> 00:31:57,170
more in need. And that has

995
00:31:57,170 --> 00:31:58,320
increased on wait times as

996
00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,850
well.

997
00:31:59,850 --> 00:32:01,850
answer any questions.

998
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:04,920
thank you. Appreciate it.

999
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,500
>> this is the last time

1000
00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:07,820
talking. Hopefully one of the

1001
00:32:07,820 --> 00:32:09,790
things I forgot to mention,

1002
00:32:09,790 --> 00:32:11,800
I think it's very essential

1003
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:12,560
that I mentioned is that

1004
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,110
decisions and then much of this

1005
00:32:14,110 --> 00:32:15,890
a question for you, ms elbagir,

1006
00:32:15,890 --> 00:32:17,870
if you want to trust, you can

1007
00:32:17,870 --> 00:32:19,220
just to constituents are

1008
00:32:19,220 --> 00:32:20,430
telling me

1009
00:32:20,430 --> 00:32:21,540
councilman gaffney, these

1010
00:32:21,540 --> 00:32:22,480
programs.

1011
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,770
>> only to be halfway. It be

1012
00:32:24,770 --> 00:32:27,170
before I get help.

1013
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,430
you know the stuff, you know,

1014
00:32:29,430 --> 00:32:31,790
lie. So they they tell me that

1015
00:32:31,790 --> 00:32:33,730
wanted to get assistance.

1016
00:32:33,730 --> 00:32:35,630
they have to already be a 30

1017
00:32:35,630 --> 00:32:37,630
day notice

1018
00:32:37,670 --> 00:32:40,250
on the door, rather they time

1019
00:32:40,250 --> 00:32:42,260
and you call me prior to them

1020
00:32:42,260 --> 00:32:44,900
getting the but they can get

1021
00:32:44,900 --> 00:32:46,300
assistance. So when they call

1022
00:32:46,300 --> 00:32:48,250
these programs,

1023
00:32:48,250 --> 00:32:49,810
well, you've got to have a 30

1024
00:32:49,810 --> 00:32:50,740
day notice already being

1025
00:32:50,740 --> 00:32:52,700
evicted.

1026
00:32:52,700 --> 00:32:53,720
so,

1027
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,210
you know, like I said, I don't

1028
00:32:55,210 --> 00:32:56,700
know. That's a question for

1029
00:32:56,700 --> 00:32:58,800
you. I mean, it's just the

1030
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,800
issue is a real issue.

1031
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,390
I don't know how you solve it,

1032
00:33:02,390 --> 00:33:05,180
but these is typical questions.

1033
00:33:05,180 --> 00:33:06,750
comments. Concerns like that

1034
00:33:06,750 --> 00:33:08,860
about it. I don't want to give

1035
00:33:08,860 --> 00:33:11,390
it the but I got a good way to

1036
00:33:11,390 --> 00:33:13,390
get help.

1037
00:33:13,420 --> 00:33:15,240
you know,

1038
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,210
and I love what I do. What I

1039
00:33:17,210 --> 00:33:18,490
can tell them,

1040
00:33:18,490 --> 00:33:20,120
you know, so

1041
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,700
it's not as part of a lot of,

1042
00:33:21,700 --> 00:33:22,600
you know, something that we can

1043
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,340
discuss today. But I think

1044
00:33:24,340 --> 00:33:25,730
that.

1045
00:33:25,730 --> 00:33:26,930
>> but to the chair, what I

1046
00:33:26,930 --> 00:33:28,480
will say in and I think I have

1047
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,700
other colleagues here who could

1048
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:30,920
probably speak for their own

1049
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,470
areas of business. What I will

1050
00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:34,530
say to the chair that the

1051
00:33:34,530 --> 00:33:36,100
answer to your question is

1052
00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:38,500
flexible funding

1053
00:33:38,500 --> 00:33:40,140
because most of the time when

1054
00:33:40,140 --> 00:33:41,590
an organization receives

1055
00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:43,270
funding a funding source,

1056
00:33:43,270 --> 00:33:45,130
it is very restrictive. I can

1057
00:33:45,130 --> 00:33:46,380
speak to my colleagues in the

1058
00:33:46,380 --> 00:33:48,670
room. We would prefer flexible

1059
00:33:48,670 --> 00:33:50,790
funding so that we can provide

1060
00:33:50,790 --> 00:33:53,480
the resources based on a lot

1061
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:54,450
more flexibility in the

1062
00:33:54,450 --> 00:33:55,310
requirements of the

1063
00:33:55,310 --> 00:33:57,920
eligibility. And so really that

1064
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,550
is that is my my answer as I

1065
00:34:00,550 --> 00:34:02,430
speak for the organizations.

1066
00:34:02,430 --> 00:34:04,830
I know I represent.

1067
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,290
>> I've heard you speak as

1068
00:34:07,290 --> 00:34:08,730
passionately about the need as

1069
00:34:08,730 --> 00:34:11,830
much today. I mr. Help please

1070
00:34:11,830 --> 00:34:13,140
step every time. I was so

1071
00:34:13,140 --> 00:34:14,580
sorry. I'm sure that you might

1072
00:34:14,580 --> 00:34:16,120
have questions for you to do

1073
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,700
that and get your program right

1074
00:34:18,700 --> 00:34:19,750
now or through the 2 on

1075
00:34:19,750 --> 00:34:21,200
programming through your

1076
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,400
providers

1077
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,400
that so it's only one month

1078
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,330
that you guys are providing

1079
00:34:25,330 --> 00:34:26,250
assistance or could you

1080
00:34:26,250 --> 00:34:28,340
multiple months of the year?

1081
00:34:28,340 --> 00:34:30,910
>> no. You mean the people

1082
00:34:30,910 --> 00:34:32,470
calling to to 1, 1, correct?

1083
00:34:32,470 --> 00:34:33,860
knows fort for utility

1084
00:34:33,860 --> 00:34:35,150
assistance for utility bill

1085
00:34:35,150 --> 00:34:37,300
assistance. So our

1086
00:34:37,300 --> 00:34:39,560
>> calls come in every day for

1087
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,560
emergency financial assistance.

1088
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,740
and once the once a week,

1089
00:34:44,740 --> 00:34:46,420
every week we funneled the

1090
00:34:46,420 --> 00:34:48,330
specific community navigation

1091
00:34:48,330 --> 00:34:49,760
network where we take

1092
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,920
appointments. And the reason

1093
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,170
for that is because the need is

1094
00:34:54,170 --> 00:34:56,750
so high even envision a final

1095
00:34:56,750 --> 00:34:58,180
the need is at the top of that

1096
00:34:58,180 --> 00:34:59,890
funnel in the resources are at

1097
00:34:59,890 --> 00:35:01,730
the end of the final in order

1098
00:35:01,730 --> 00:35:03,850
to really help navigate the

1099
00:35:03,850 --> 00:35:05,870
network in the system. We

1100
00:35:05,870 --> 00:35:08,450
created a process for once a

1101
00:35:08,450 --> 00:35:10,920
week on tuesdays every tuesday

1102
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,760
where emergency financial

1103
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,610
assistance calls come in more

1104
00:35:14,610 --> 00:35:15,990
regularly and more often

1105
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:17,740
because people are aware that

1106
00:35:17,740 --> 00:35:21,100
they are likely to at least be

1107
00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:24,130
eligible or if they get through

1108
00:35:24,130 --> 00:35:25,240
to receive an appointment.

1109
00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:26,620
if they're eligible first for

1110
00:35:26,620 --> 00:35:27,980
sale in depending on how many

1111
00:35:27,980 --> 00:35:29,640
appointments we have available.

1112
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,930
>> so if I were a pair, could I

1113
00:35:30,930 --> 00:35:32,530
get multiple

1114
00:35:32,530 --> 00:35:33,910
the times a year that I can get

1115
00:35:33,910 --> 00:35:36,300
assistance? If you are a rate

1116
00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:37,960
payer 5, I'm in need of

1117
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,440
assistance. Can I call you

1118
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:40,490
still around?

1119
00:35:40,490 --> 00:35:42,100
>> if you are in need of

1120
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:43,560
assistance multiple times,

1121
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,560
it depends on the requirements.

1122
00:35:46,580 --> 00:35:48,390
most of them do not allow you

1123
00:35:48,390 --> 00:35:50,700
to receive assistance based on

1124
00:35:50,700 --> 00:35:51,870
the requirements more than once

1125
00:35:51,870 --> 00:35:53,410
a year. There's some that

1126
00:35:53,410 --> 00:35:55,480
actually required once every 2

1127
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,450
years depends on the resource.

1128
00:35:57,450 --> 00:36:00,400
>> so if it was if the city

1129
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,400
were to provide,

1130
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,800
I'm trying to fit a new thing.

1131
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:05,300
this body's trying to figure

1132
00:36:05,300 --> 00:36:06,680
out

1133
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,100
if we if we were to put city

1134
00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:09,380
dollars behind some program,

1135
00:36:09,380 --> 00:36:10,500
what the united way's 2,

1136
00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:12,900
1, 1, program would be the

1137
00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:13,520
committee navigation network.

1138
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:14,330
would it be that to the

1139
00:36:14,330 --> 00:36:15,760
providers who do direct

1140
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,280
support? And if so, can we make

1141
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,490
sure that their program allows

1142
00:36:18,490 --> 00:36:20,150
for a little more openness and

1143
00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:21,900
flexibility? How does one do

1144
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:23,290
that?

1145
00:36:23,290 --> 00:36:25,900
>> so what you have bought it,

1146
00:36:25,900 --> 00:36:27,190
certainly if you were to

1147
00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:28,970
provide additional support

1148
00:36:28,970 --> 00:36:30,730
through 2, 1, 1, right now,

1149
00:36:30,730 --> 00:36:32,670
a united way, our united way to

1150
00:36:32,670 --> 00:36:33,930
1, 1, the community navigation

1151
00:36:33,930 --> 00:36:35,220
that were that is one and the

1152
00:36:35,220 --> 00:36:37,700
same. I'm looking at my

1153
00:36:37,700 --> 00:36:38,440
colleague ali center, who's

1154
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,000
here from catholic charities.

1155
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,400
right now, catholic charities

1156
00:36:42,460 --> 00:36:44,920
is the direct resource and

1157
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,790
partner for the current

1158
00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:48,120
neighbor to neighbor dollars

1159
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,640
from j a they receive those

1160
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,770
dollars directly in there

1161
00:36:52,770 --> 00:36:55,770
actually is a monthly payout

1162
00:36:56,900 --> 00:36:57,380
that goes directly to catholic

1163
00:36:57,380 --> 00:36:59,440
charities. Our role is to

1164
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,510
schedule those appointments for

1165
00:37:01,510 --> 00:37:02,890
those emergency assistance

1166
00:37:02,890 --> 00:37:04,690
calls. If that was something

1167
00:37:04,690 --> 00:37:06,190
that the city really light

1168
00:37:06,190 --> 00:37:07,700
would like to do to that span,

1169
00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:08,820
to be able to prada, did

1170
00:37:08,820 --> 00:37:10,680
provide additional dollars for

1171
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,640
our duval county residents.

1172
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,400
and we would love to be able to

1173
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:15,650
use. We would use a similar

1174
00:37:15,650 --> 00:37:18,610
process, of course, with any

1175
00:37:18,610 --> 00:37:20,120
additional funding. There will

1176
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,330
also be increased volume of

1177
00:37:22,330 --> 00:37:24,230
calls in volume of need.

1178
00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:26,100
and as I mentioned before,

1179
00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:29,000
7 is very already people not

1180
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,250
quite enough to answer the

1181
00:37:30,250 --> 00:37:32,270
call. So we with absolutely

1182
00:37:32,270 --> 00:37:34,920
like to advocate as well for

1183
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,760
the ability to actually field

1184
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,620
those additional resources.

1185
00:37:38,620 --> 00:37:39,840
so

1186
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,100
>> I appreciate the terminology

1187
00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:42,290
you're using a thing could be a

1188
00:37:42,290 --> 00:37:44,180
little bit more strict with us.

1189
00:37:44,180 --> 00:37:45,150
it's my understanding that if

1190
00:37:45,150 --> 00:37:46,630
we gave you substantial amount

1191
00:37:46,630 --> 00:37:48,290
of money,

1192
00:37:48,290 --> 00:37:49,500
I believe the words yesterday

1193
00:37:49,500 --> 00:37:50,540
said to me like we could we

1194
00:37:50,540 --> 00:37:52,270
would it would almost be a loss

1195
00:37:52,270 --> 00:37:53,670
for us to take on those dollars

1196
00:37:53,670 --> 00:37:54,680
and we didn't have the staff to

1197
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,100
be able to process. Absolutely.

1198
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:57,360
no. I think you're saying you

1199
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,710
need more staff at some of

1200
00:37:58,710 --> 00:38:00,220
these dollars would have to go

1201
00:38:00,220 --> 00:38:01,550
instead. That is. And what you

1202
00:38:01,550 --> 00:38:03,900
told me that I just yes,

1203
00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:03,980
we got to make sure everyone

1204
00:38:03,980 --> 00:38:04,820
fully understands and the

1205
00:38:04,820 --> 00:38:05,180
summer.

1206
00:38:05,180 --> 00:38:06,600
>> that is great chance to the

1207
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,820
chair. We we could not managed

1208
00:38:08,820 --> 00:38:10,530
an additional volume of calls

1209
00:38:10,530 --> 00:38:13,130
or even with additional funding

1210
00:38:13,130 --> 00:38:16,700
to pay out to those who are

1211
00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:17,990
being supported by

1212
00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:19,190
organizations like catholic

1213
00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:20,940
charities without additional

1214
00:38:20,940 --> 00:38:22,700
staff support? Absolutely not.

1215
00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:24,430
not in a very successful way.

1216
00:38:24,430 --> 00:38:26,140
we'll continue to get calls

1217
00:38:26,140 --> 00:38:27,640
that we were not able to meet.

1218
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:28,810
their needs are quite literally

1219
00:38:28,810 --> 00:38:29,900
like I think.

1220
00:38:29,900 --> 00:38:30,740
>> I'm trying to make sure we

1221
00:38:30,740 --> 00:38:31,690
walk out of here. We have a

1222
00:38:31,690 --> 00:38:33,140
good idea that the issues that

1223
00:38:33,140 --> 00:38:34,240
you're hearing that we're all

1224
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:35,660
hearing are going to be better

1225
00:38:35,660 --> 00:38:37,270
addressed by our actions,

1226
00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:40,500
right? Like it can't just be

1227
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:41,470
you. There's more money.

1228
00:38:41,470 --> 00:38:42,410
but yeah, you're just going to

1229
00:38:42,410 --> 00:38:43,280
have to keep calling for the

1230
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,110
next 7 weeks.

1231
00:38:45,110 --> 00:38:46,140
I know that I've heard from a

1232
00:38:46,140 --> 00:38:47,300
number of people. There are

1233
00:38:47,300 --> 00:38:49,700
several months past due.

1234
00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:51,810
>> by no, by no other issue

1235
00:38:51,810 --> 00:38:52,810
than just where we are on the

1236
00:38:52,810 --> 00:38:54,220
economy. And I just want to

1237
00:38:54,220 --> 00:38:55,240
make.

1238
00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:56,320
>> we're able to help address

1239
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,620
those monies to the chair.

1240
00:38:57,620 --> 00:38:59,360
if I me me, I yield some of my

1241
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:00,920
time with. I mean, really,

1242
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,160
I just want her to share

1243
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,240
because she didn't have to come

1244
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:05,360
here and the u.s. And wanted to

1245
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,550
make sure because catholic

1246
00:39:06,550 --> 00:39:07,880
charities, they are doing the

1247
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,480
work to actually a lay catholic

1248
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,440
charities has been no, you

1249
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,440
can't either to

1250
00:39:13,750 --> 00:39:15,950
I later catholic charities to

1251
00:39:15,950 --> 00:39:17,700
answer your question about the

1252
00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:18,770
multiple months.

1253
00:39:18,770 --> 00:39:20,910
>> so it is true that typically

1254
00:39:20,910 --> 00:39:23,440
we would only serve somebody or

1255
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,840
household every 12 months to

1256
00:39:25,980 --> 00:39:27,800
clarify if they are several

1257
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,430
months behind on their utility

1258
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:31,260
bill. Our goal is to always

1259
00:39:31,260 --> 00:39:32,860
make them whole. And we work

1260
00:39:32,860 --> 00:39:34,250
really closely with jta on

1261
00:39:34,250 --> 00:39:35,510
that. So they may not have paid

1262
00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:37,320
their bill for 3 months.

1263
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,640
so in effect, they are getting

1264
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:39,990
3 months of assistance with

1265
00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:42,190
that one time payment. There's

1266
00:39:42,190 --> 00:39:44,650
we will work, which as well on

1267
00:39:44,650 --> 00:39:46,790
things like leaks. And they've

1268
00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:48,400
been very great to work with us

1269
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,370
on that. So if we get a bill

1270
00:39:49,370 --> 00:39:51,140
that's significant, you know,

1271
00:39:51,140 --> 00:39:52,130
we can kind of work with them

1272
00:39:52,130 --> 00:39:53,600
on that.

1273
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,360
but all co

1274
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,680
and what united way is saying

1275
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,200
if there was an additional

1276
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,740
appropriation,

1277
00:40:00,740 --> 00:40:01,910
we wouldn't be able to do it

1278
00:40:01,910 --> 00:40:03,420
for free. We need to build the

1279
00:40:03,420 --> 00:40:04,870
infrastructure in order to be

1280
00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:06,170
able to actually serve these

1281
00:40:06,170 --> 00:40:08,630
people. We do need to screen

1282
00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:10,300
the people, make sure that they

1283
00:40:10,300 --> 00:40:11,940
are who they say they are,

1284
00:40:11,940 --> 00:40:13,190
that they're actually leasing

1285
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:14,300
the place. They say they're

1286
00:40:14,300 --> 00:40:15,860
leasing and that takes time and

1287
00:40:15,860 --> 00:40:17,340
professionals to do.

1288
00:40:17,340 --> 00:40:18,510
>> and if funding were

1289
00:40:18,510 --> 00:40:19,930
available, would you say that

1290
00:40:19,930 --> 00:40:21,740
it's appropriate for the united

1291
00:40:21,740 --> 00:40:23,700
way, or would you say that you

1292
00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:24,810
go to

1293
00:40:24,810 --> 00:40:26,260
the individual providers as

1294
00:40:26,260 --> 00:40:27,970
well? Or?

1295
00:40:27,970 --> 00:40:29,520
>> I think if you want the

1296
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,110
system to work well, it would

1297
00:40:31,110 --> 00:40:32,680
need to go to both places.

1298
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:33,980
2, 1, 1, needs that

1299
00:40:33,980 --> 00:40:35,280
infrastructure in order to be

1300
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,490
able to feel the additional

1301
00:40:36,490 --> 00:40:38,370
calls. And then whoever is

1302
00:40:38,370 --> 00:40:39,560
distributing the money would be

1303
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,170
case managers to be able to do

1304
00:40:41,170 --> 00:40:42,120
that.

1305
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,440
to put it in perspective.

1306
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,370
right now, the neighbor to

1307
00:40:44,370 --> 00:40:46,610
neighbor program is only about

1308
00:40:46,610 --> 00:40:48,610
$190,000 a year.

1309
00:40:49,850 --> 00:40:52,770
and that's not very much money.

1310
00:40:52,770 --> 00:40:54,250
we're talking about trying to

1311
00:40:54,250 --> 00:40:55,150
make people whole on their

1312
00:40:55,150 --> 00:40:57,150
utility bills.

1313
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:58,960
council heard dr johnson,

1314
00:40:58,960 --> 00:40:59,890
thanks for joining us and you

1315
00:40:59,890 --> 00:41:01,120
have a question.

1316
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,170
>> actions more and a lot more

1317
00:41:03,170 --> 00:41:04,190
question comment. I've been

1318
00:41:04,190 --> 00:41:05,600
keeping up with it. I was in

1319
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:06,700
another meeting. Thank you for

1320
00:41:06,700 --> 00:41:07,730
doing this. First of all,

1321
00:41:07,730 --> 00:41:08,840
to you guys been getting

1322
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,830
counseled holder like this is

1323
00:41:10,830 --> 00:41:13,560
this is so necessary and can

1324
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,180
sign is if they have and,

1325
00:41:15,180 --> 00:41:17,870
you know, I want to

1326
00:41:17,870 --> 00:41:20,700
I do every time seriously.

1327
00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:22,150
this is a an issue that I know

1328
00:41:22,150 --> 00:41:23,200
all of us have heard about

1329
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,380
consistently. Why are we

1330
00:41:25,380 --> 00:41:26,330
talking about building out

1331
00:41:26,330 --> 00:41:27,600
infrastructure and going other

1332
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,810
places when nafta does it

1333
00:41:29,810 --> 00:41:32,500
already? If I'm not mistaken,

1334
00:41:32,500 --> 00:41:35,300
there is the lee happ

1335
00:41:35,300 --> 00:41:36,260
low income energy assistance

1336
00:41:36,260 --> 00:41:38,470
program. And so they have like

1337
00:41:38,470 --> 00:41:40,390
he took a lie. He but I knew

1338
00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:41,920
that never did. I know they've

1339
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,320
been doing for decades. If

1340
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,740
they've already got the

1341
00:41:44,740 --> 00:41:45,740
infrastructure and can do it

1342
00:41:45,740 --> 00:41:46,830
and that's why we go and try to

1343
00:41:46,830 --> 00:41:48,300
find other people to do the

1344
00:41:48,300 --> 00:41:50,210
thing that they already do on a

1345
00:41:50,210 --> 00:41:52,560
regular basis. What is net net

1346
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,250
but never cut the northeast.

1347
00:41:54,250 --> 00:41:55,270
florida community action

1348
00:41:55,270 --> 00:41:56,740
agency.

1349
00:41:56,740 --> 00:41:58,740
listen to it.

1350
00:41:59,770 --> 00:42:00,950
they have a member. Just nation

1351
00:42:00,950 --> 00:42:04,550
comes up. I guess we could

1352
00:42:04,650 --> 00:42:08,250
as you know. Okay with that.

1353
00:42:11,570 --> 00:42:12,920
>> okay. So through the chair

1354
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,920
to councilman johnson mask was

1355
00:42:17,100 --> 00:42:21,200
the the mediator for the law he

1356
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,800
funds about a year ago. Then it

1357
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,440
shifted to the state of florida

1358
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,740
to the promise network, the

1359
00:42:28,740 --> 00:42:30,180
promise network through the

1360
00:42:30,180 --> 00:42:31,460
state of florida can actually

1361
00:42:31,460 --> 00:42:33,150
get the funds out a whole lot

1362
00:42:33,150 --> 00:42:34,930
quicker than nafta because they

1363
00:42:34,930 --> 00:42:36,800
have the resources to be able

1364
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,110
to do it. So, for example,

1365
00:42:39,110 --> 00:42:41,220
when we get a lot of heat fund,

1366
00:42:41,220 --> 00:42:43,300
cisco, low-income home energy

1367
00:42:43,300 --> 00:42:44,920
assistance program from the

1368
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,360
federal government down to the

1369
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,430
state and when thomas and

1370
00:42:48,430 --> 00:42:50,650
promise get that, we can get

1371
00:42:50,650 --> 00:42:52,950
those funds out through them

1372
00:42:52,950 --> 00:42:56,100
30 to 45 days. We have of the

1373
00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:58,710
voucher, the people that are in

1374
00:42:58,710 --> 00:43:00,280
need of the utility assistance

1375
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,870
to do not get there disconnect

1376
00:43:02,870 --> 00:43:03,830
because we know that the

1377
00:43:03,830 --> 00:43:04,800
boucher is there and the

1378
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,770
dollars are there and it gets

1379
00:43:06,770 --> 00:43:08,350
move quicker. Give you a great

1380
00:43:08,350 --> 00:43:09,980
example and I won't hold it too

1381
00:43:09,980 --> 00:43:12,730
long. But and they had some

1382
00:43:12,730 --> 00:43:13,900
some dollars that they needed

1383
00:43:13,900 --> 00:43:15,960
to repurpose spurlock e for.

1384
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,360
23 fy. 23 24 25. It ran through

1385
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,290
to promise network they

1386
00:43:22,290 --> 00:43:24,390
provided some funding for for

1387
00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:26,700
food, for for us at j a to be

1388
00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:27,920
able to get it out. We were

1389
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,320
able to help over 14,600 of our

1390
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,900
her neighbors that need some

1391
00:43:33,900 --> 00:43:34,440
support.

1392
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,500
that's because promise was able

1393
00:43:36,500 --> 00:43:37,500
to move those dollars. Quick us

1394
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:38,730
on offense still does their

1395
00:43:38,730 --> 00:43:41,180
thing as for us trying to

1396
00:43:41,180 --> 00:43:43,270
manage and, you know, different

1397
00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:45,530
processes. But the lockheed

1398
00:43:45,530 --> 00:43:47,780
dollars come directly through

1399
00:43:47,780 --> 00:43:49,350
promised to us.

1400
00:43:49,350 --> 00:43:51,300
>> and but to administer them

1401
00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:52,100
and started to take it over.

1402
00:43:52,100 --> 00:43:54,200
but to administer those funds,

1403
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,820
you was still dr. Martin need

1404
00:43:55,820 --> 00:43:57,100
additional infrastructure for

1405
00:43:57,100 --> 00:43:58,410
what? You know, we don't

1406
00:43:58,410 --> 00:44:00,240
administer any of those funds.

1407
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:02,700
we do not bring money into us.

1408
00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:04,620
the money comes through the

1409
00:44:04,620 --> 00:44:07,490
process to promise and they put

1410
00:44:07,490 --> 00:44:10,400
the dollars on the individual's

1411
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,580
bills like they're just kind of

1412
00:44:11,580 --> 00:44:12,760
paying the bill for the right.

1413
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,680
we do not take in anything or

1414
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,940
we utilize our partners that we

1415
00:44:16,940 --> 00:44:19,640
just talked about that have the

1416
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,100
get those resources like our

1417
00:44:21,100 --> 00:44:22,430
neighbor to neighbor program.

1418
00:44:22,430 --> 00:44:24,830
that's our individual employees

1419
00:44:25,310 --> 00:44:27,280
given citizens given on their

1420
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,110
bill, things of that nature,

1421
00:44:29,110 --> 00:44:31,420
those dollars go directly to

1422
00:44:31,420 --> 00:44:32,950
catholic charities. That's why

1423
00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:34,130
she was mentioning has about

1424
00:44:34,130 --> 00:44:36,530
190,000 a year. Those are

1425
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,790
donated dollars to various

1426
00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:40,460
means go straight there to help

1427
00:44:40,460 --> 00:44:43,700
our that help our customers and

1428
00:44:43,700 --> 00:44:45,130
those dollars are generally use

1429
00:44:45,130 --> 00:44:46,610
doing the senior day for

1430
00:44:46,610 --> 00:44:47,660
neighbor to neighbor. Thank

1431
00:44:47,660 --> 00:44:50,190
you, dot councilmember. I would

1432
00:44:50,190 --> 00:44:51,820
I I think one of the things

1433
00:44:51,820 --> 00:44:52,900
that I've discovered were not

1434
00:44:52,900 --> 00:44:54,120
discovered, but I noticed I

1435
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,600
think all of us can say they

1436
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:56,230
can do you not talked about

1437
00:44:56,230 --> 00:44:59,190
before we're in so many silos

1438
00:44:59,190 --> 00:45:00,770
and everybody this person's

1439
00:45:00,770 --> 00:45:01,890
over here in this person's in

1440
00:45:01,890 --> 00:45:02,960
talking to this group and vice

1441
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,440
versa. So I think once we do

1442
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,170
get this legislation ready,

1443
00:45:06,170 --> 00:45:07,670
we need to those organizations

1444
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:09,560
would be to 1, 1, would be on

1445
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,900
this more and the city's

1446
00:45:11,900 --> 00:45:12,800
organization neighbor to

1447
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:13,850
neighbor the promise network

1448
00:45:13,850 --> 00:45:14,740
where there was a need to sit

1449
00:45:14,740 --> 00:45:15,600
in a room with them and say,

1450
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:16,710
guys, you got to talk to each

1451
00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:18,640
other. It is additional funds

1452
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:19,850
because the one thing this is

1453
00:45:19,850 --> 00:45:21,000
as concerning which I've heard

1454
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,600
over and over and dr moreland,

1455
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,140
you just said a moment ago,

1456
00:45:24,140 --> 00:45:26,300
there's like a 30 45 day period

1457
00:45:26,300 --> 00:45:27,270
to those funds getting there.

1458
00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:28,370
and if if their energy

1459
00:45:28,370 --> 00:45:29,670
assistance needs, they're

1460
00:45:29,670 --> 00:45:31,510
usually needed within the 10

1461
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:33,330
day period, if not sooner.

1462
00:45:33,330 --> 00:45:34,490
so I think that's important.

1463
00:45:34,490 --> 00:45:36,200
we we take into account.

1464
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,100
>> understand and thank you for

1465
00:45:38,100 --> 00:45:39,280
for

1466
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,700
the bringing all that up.

1467
00:45:40,700 --> 00:45:42,260
the in my conversations with

1468
00:45:42,260 --> 00:45:44,800
jta with united way with parks

1469
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:44,940
department is parks,

1470
00:45:44,940 --> 00:45:46,480
recreation, community services.

1471
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,700
committee services also

1472
00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:49,550
provides like the funding as

1473
00:45:49,550 --> 00:45:51,740
well. And so I initially

1474
00:45:51,740 --> 00:45:52,630
thought, ok, well, we have the

1475
00:45:52,630 --> 00:45:53,650
city of jacksonville. Let's put

1476
00:45:53,650 --> 00:45:55,500
the money in the city of

1477
00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:56,190
jacksonville. But under

1478
00:45:56,190 --> 00:45:57,410
community service is the only

1479
00:45:57,410 --> 00:45:59,570
do one payment assistance for.

1480
00:45:59,570 --> 00:46:00,760
I don't know if it's 10 months

1481
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,800
or 18 months. It's only one was

1482
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,700
like, okay. Well, we already do

1483
00:46:04,700 --> 00:46:06,180
provide some funds for that.

1484
00:46:06,180 --> 00:46:07,440
so city jax, florida has some

1485
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:08,850
dollars to do that for one-time

1486
00:46:08,850 --> 00:46:11,780
assistance. So then what do we

1487
00:46:11,780 --> 00:46:12,860
go next? What we have a

1488
00:46:12,860 --> 00:46:14,860
contract with 2, 1, 1, already,

1489
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,200
right, that a contract with the

1490
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:16,830
city of jackson has been

1491
00:46:16,830 --> 00:46:18,430
longstanding and they have the

1492
00:46:18,430 --> 00:46:20,660
network has after talking with

1493
00:46:20,660 --> 00:46:22,510
jta

1494
00:46:22,510 --> 00:46:23,710
and parks. That's where they

1495
00:46:23,710 --> 00:46:24,750
said, like, you know, we we

1496
00:46:24,750 --> 00:46:26,270
kind already have a

1497
00:46:26,270 --> 00:46:27,280
relationship in talking with 2

1498
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,380
on one and obviously going

1499
00:46:28,380 --> 00:46:29,360
through catholic charities,

1500
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,760
judicial services and desk.

1501
00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:34,520
the conversation was more about

1502
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:35,360
how the dollar's get the

1503
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,840
providers to provide that

1504
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,370
funding to people immediately

1505
00:46:38,370 --> 00:46:39,880
because they're already getting

1506
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:40,750
the calls. Right? I think that

1507
00:46:40,750 --> 00:46:41,950
was the point is like you just

1508
00:46:41,950 --> 00:46:43,160
heard from catholic charities.

1509
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:44,680
they're getting calls right

1510
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,220
now. And sometimes they have to

1511
00:46:46,220 --> 00:46:47,660
say, well, we're out of money

1512
00:46:47,660 --> 00:46:49,190
are restricted funds and how to

1513
00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:50,110
use them. I think what my goal

1514
00:46:50,110 --> 00:46:51,230
is here is to get some

1515
00:46:51,230 --> 00:46:54,800
consensus from folks on that.

1516
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,290
we want to do this. I I know

1517
00:46:55,290 --> 00:46:57,110
that that I believe myself and

1518
00:46:57,110 --> 00:46:59,330
counsel kathy certainly do what

1519
00:46:59,330 --> 00:47:00,840
the dollar number looks like if

1520
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:01,810
there is infrastructure needs

1521
00:47:01,810 --> 00:47:02,810
to be built because to the

1522
00:47:02,810 --> 00:47:04,710
point of what

1523
00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:05,950
councilman gaffney it said and

1524
00:47:05,950 --> 00:47:06,870
what we heard from folks in the

1525
00:47:06,870 --> 00:47:08,100
past,

1526
00:47:08,100 --> 00:47:09,470
people are calling people are

1527
00:47:09,470 --> 00:47:10,440
trying to get assistance,

1528
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:11,760
but it takes

1529
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:12,810
days if not weeks to get a

1530
00:47:12,810 --> 00:47:14,430
return, see need to another

1531
00:47:14,430 --> 00:47:15,930
staffer. To that. You're going

1532
00:47:15,930 --> 00:47:16,780
to get the more funds to

1533
00:47:16,780 --> 00:47:18,310
administer.

1534
00:47:18,310 --> 00:47:19,510
you need to hire another person

1535
00:47:19,510 --> 00:47:21,280
or 2. And if the city did it,

1536
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,700
that's an fda and it's a lot of

1537
00:47:22,700 --> 00:47:23,980
money. So it's even better that

1538
00:47:23,980 --> 00:47:26,490
we go through a 3rd party in

1539
00:47:26,490 --> 00:47:27,610
this case, possibly, you know,

1540
00:47:27,610 --> 00:47:29,340
united way and their network,

1541
00:47:29,340 --> 00:47:30,490
the community avigation at

1542
00:47:30,490 --> 00:47:32,940
work. So that's that's why I

1543
00:47:32,940 --> 00:47:34,100
want to make sure we're going

1544
00:47:34,100 --> 00:47:35,820
down that route is how we make

1545
00:47:35,820 --> 00:47:37,410
sure the dollar's get out the

1546
00:47:37,410 --> 00:47:38,460
fastest and make sure that the

1547
00:47:38,460 --> 00:47:39,580
programs

1548
00:47:39,580 --> 00:47:41,270
are administered in such a way

1549
00:47:41,270 --> 00:47:42,220
that like there isn't a

1550
00:47:42,220 --> 00:47:43,270
restriction that we can and

1551
00:47:43,270 --> 00:47:45,430
can't get the flexibility as

1552
00:47:45,430 --> 00:47:47,430
was said earlier.

1553
00:47:47,430 --> 00:47:48,620
that's that's where I hope to

1554
00:47:48,620 --> 00:47:51,250
be in this. And so I just did a

1555
00:47:51,250 --> 00:47:54,250
lot of talking. It's my

1556
00:47:54,970 --> 00:47:56,260
do we have any comments from

1557
00:47:56,260 --> 00:47:58,000
from our colleagues, youth

1558
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,840
coach air first for my chair.

1559
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,710
>> chair that mr. Pfizer time

1560
00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:05,140
in regards to funding because

1561
00:48:05,140 --> 00:48:06,900
we're talking about dumping

1562
00:48:06,900 --> 00:48:07,970
ahead.

1563
00:48:07,970 --> 00:48:09,230
>> and you have less is on to

1564
00:48:09,230 --> 00:48:10,600
the lookouts.

1565
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:11,790
>> councilman, larry, you and

1566
00:48:11,790 --> 00:48:13,190
not your in my mind at all

1567
00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:16,190
times you are to do you know,

1568
00:48:16,190 --> 00:48:18,550
we are we are. But please,

1569
00:48:18,550 --> 00:48:19,370
if you I mean, they're

1570
00:48:19,370 --> 00:48:20,820
councilmember parks here in a

1571
00:48:20,820 --> 00:48:23,350
just sentence in a pair like is

1572
00:48:23,350 --> 00:48:24,720
appealing his own. And I think

1573
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:27,640
now this is like a day of the

1574
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,910
and this morning all of the

1575
00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:31,370
year and he's the money.

1576
00:48:31,370 --> 00:48:33,490
and so guy had a spark to tell

1577
00:48:33,490 --> 00:48:34,930
us where we're going at this

1578
00:48:34,930 --> 00:48:36,930
catch.

1579
00:48:37,700 --> 00:48:38,240
>> at this point time as we

1580
00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:39,170
talk to our meeting, it would

1581
00:48:39,170 --> 00:48:40,230
have to be from operating

1582
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:41,580
reserves. There's not a spot.

1583
00:48:41,580 --> 00:48:42,460
you know, we just approved the

1584
00:48:42,460 --> 00:48:43,480
budget. You're not seeing

1585
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,300
weather a variance that you can

1586
00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:46,280
take through. So at this point,

1587
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,610
it would have to be a ratings

1588
00:48:47,610 --> 00:48:49,860
or reviews. And it depends on,

1589
00:48:49,860 --> 00:48:51,160
you know, is this going to be a

1590
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:52,340
recurring is it's going to be a

1591
00:48:52,340 --> 00:48:53,590
one-time kind of, you know,

1592
00:48:53,590 --> 00:48:55,500
to get things going. So I kind

1593
00:48:55,500 --> 00:48:56,470
of handed over to you on that

1594
00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:57,520
beats.

1595
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:58,330
>> and thank you for the most

1596
00:48:58,330 --> 00:48:59,200
part. And that was the

1597
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,160
conversation I have with me

1598
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,120
today was they would be about

1599
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,820
2 million.

1600
00:49:03,820 --> 00:49:06,150
that's my that's my number that

1601
00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:07,140
I believe is going to look at

1602
00:49:07,140 --> 00:49:08,530
him at work is a two-year

1603
00:49:08,530 --> 00:49:09,810
program.

1604
00:49:09,810 --> 00:49:12,100
so it's a one-time payment 2

1605
00:49:12,100 --> 00:49:14,100
years, an additional 300,000

1606
00:49:15,170 --> 00:49:16,520
for administrative support.

1607
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:17,470
the infrastructure needed to

1608
00:49:17,470 --> 00:49:19,400
help

1609
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:20,660
a paper staffing to

1610
00:49:20,660 --> 00:49:23,630
to get these dollars out path.

1611
00:49:23,630 --> 00:49:25,520
and every 6 months we get a

1612
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:26,600
report

1613
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,900
and we see how people are being

1614
00:49:28,900 --> 00:49:29,260
service. I mean, if we're

1615
00:49:29,260 --> 00:49:30,860
seeing that there was 5100

1616
00:49:30,860 --> 00:49:33,510
calls last year last year was

1617
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:35,700
before gas prices went up to

1618
00:49:35,700 --> 00:49:36,680
the level that they're at it

1619
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,600
was before inflation when I

1620
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,140
think it was ali 3 and now it's

1621
00:49:40,140 --> 00:49:42,140
at 3, 4, 3, 5, and then

1622
00:49:43,700 --> 00:49:46,830
we just saw the right height.

1623
00:49:46,830 --> 00:49:48,800
so

1624
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,580
I think if we saw 5100 calls

1625
00:49:50,580 --> 00:49:52,120
last year, especially if we

1626
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,300
have a program that's really

1627
00:49:53,300 --> 00:49:54,630
being well administered,

1628
00:49:54,630 --> 00:49:56,310
this is going to go well into

1629
00:49:56,310 --> 00:49:57,900
the 8 to 10,000 range. I would

1630
00:49:57,900 --> 00:49:59,900
think conservatively, frankly.

1631
00:50:00,380 --> 00:50:02,850
and if that's households and

1632
00:50:02,850 --> 00:50:04,670
families that need help and we

1633
00:50:04,670 --> 00:50:05,890
could do it, let's do it.

1634
00:50:05,890 --> 00:50:07,600
ms ellen believe you're at

1635
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:08,960
that.

1636
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:09,980
>> so sorry, chair I just

1637
00:50:09,980 --> 00:50:11,530
wanted to. The calls were

1638
00:50:11,530 --> 00:50:12,680
actually significantly higher.

1639
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,800
the calls of the 5100 where

1640
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:15,970
where the number of people who

1641
00:50:15,970 --> 00:50:17,460
receive support who actually

1642
00:50:17,460 --> 00:50:18,530
got. Yeah, that actually

1643
00:50:18,530 --> 00:50:19,990
correct. The number of calls

1644
00:50:19,990 --> 00:50:21,920
week have gotten from duval

1645
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,320
county is over 46,000 each

1646
00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:25,890
year, anderson. That's that

1647
00:50:25,890 --> 00:50:27,260
includes all emerges. The

1648
00:50:27,260 --> 00:50:28,710
calls, you know, regarding the

1649
00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:29,770
issue, I just wanted to make

1650
00:50:29,770 --> 00:50:31,220
that.

1651
00:50:31,220 --> 00:50:32,720
>> and just very shows that

1652
00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:34,940
515100 calls that were just for

1653
00:50:34,940 --> 00:50:37,620
utility assistance and got that

1654
00:50:37,620 --> 00:50:39,610
or was at 46,000 calls for is

1655
00:50:39,610 --> 00:50:40,710
as goes for everything and

1656
00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:42,160
anything that.

1657
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,190
>> yes, sir, the to the chair.

1658
00:50:44,190 --> 00:50:46,490
46,000 calls for in duval

1659
00:50:46,490 --> 00:50:48,140
county. That total

1660
00:50:48,140 --> 00:50:51,140
5100 of those calls were able

1661
00:50:52,220 --> 00:50:53,650
to reap because the sense

1662
00:50:53,650 --> 00:50:55,120
really connected to get their

1663
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,120
utilities

1664
00:50:57,130 --> 00:50:59,130
assistance, emergency says.

1665
00:50:59,170 --> 00:51:00,940
>> okay. And to the to the

1666
00:51:00,940 --> 00:51:02,530
point earlier about okay,

1667
00:51:02,530 --> 00:51:04,600
what

1668
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:05,150
if dollars are appropriate?

1669
00:51:05,150 --> 00:51:06,360
and I just gave a number of

1670
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:07,280
like everyone not just in

1671
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,420
showing that

1672
00:51:08,420 --> 00:51:10,630
if if if you know 2 million in

1673
00:51:10,630 --> 00:51:13,630
public funds was a contract

1674
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:14,990
that out,

1675
00:51:14,990 --> 00:51:16,940
would it be just to to 1,

1676
00:51:16,940 --> 00:51:18,970
1, to be distributed to the

1677
00:51:18,970 --> 00:51:20,600
providers? That would be the 2,

1678
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,300
you know, certain number 2,

1679
00:51:22,300 --> 00:51:24,300
1, 1, especially administrative

1680
00:51:24,390 --> 00:51:25,680
support to make sure the calls

1681
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,190
get out and then a couple extra

1682
00:51:27,190 --> 00:51:28,650
and then extra dollars to the

1683
00:51:28,650 --> 00:51:30,650
different organizations.

1684
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:32,310
is that how that would work?

1685
00:51:32,310 --> 00:51:34,570
>> so to the chair, it is

1686
00:51:34,570 --> 00:51:36,710
there. There are 2 options

1687
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:38,470
really united way, of course,

1688
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:40,660
as a as a an organization that

1689
00:51:40,660 --> 00:51:42,780
his partner, we have a grant

1690
00:51:42,780 --> 00:51:44,580
making, obviously

1691
00:51:44,580 --> 00:51:45,870
infrastructure already built.

1692
00:51:45,870 --> 00:51:47,910
so we absolutely can distribute

1693
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:49,490
the funds to the partners.

1694
00:51:49,490 --> 00:51:51,740
I would also agree with eileen

1695
00:51:51,740 --> 00:51:52,680
that if there is an

1696
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,720
opportunity, I think in order

1697
00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:56,390
to expedite to the beginnings

1698
00:51:56,390 --> 00:51:58,820
of of receiving support so that

1699
00:51:58,820 --> 00:52:00,620
if the organizations who are in

1700
00:52:00,620 --> 00:52:01,730
this network, which there are

1701
00:52:01,730 --> 00:52:03,570
many of us, as we mentioned

1702
00:52:03,570 --> 00:52:05,380
several in this room, if they

1703
00:52:05,380 --> 00:52:07,770
were able to receive the direct

1704
00:52:07,770 --> 00:52:09,450
support along with the

1705
00:52:09,450 --> 00:52:11,130
additional dollars to help us

1706
00:52:11,130 --> 00:52:12,750
expand the ability to take

1707
00:52:12,750 --> 00:52:14,320
those pre screening calls.

1708
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,890
and that would also be a

1709
00:52:15,890 --> 00:52:18,480
resource to make it simple.

1710
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:19,990
the simpler ways certainly

1711
00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:22,740
would be to partner with united

1712
00:52:22,740 --> 00:52:25,580
way. And we would be that co

1713
00:52:25,580 --> 00:52:27,760
grantee or some grantee for it

1714
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,770
for you on behalf of the city.

1715
00:52:29,770 --> 00:52:31,600
we could also do the opposite

1716
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,820
because I do. Our partners

1717
00:52:33,820 --> 00:52:35,190
would appreciate the direct

1718
00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:37,320
support immediately as well.

1719
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,100
>> I want these dollars to hit

1720
00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:40,200
the streets as soon as humanly

1721
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,970
possible. And I think we just I

1722
00:52:42,970 --> 00:52:44,460
think I want to be comfortable.

1723
00:52:44,460 --> 00:52:45,810
I think my colleagues, I want

1724
00:52:45,810 --> 00:52:46,930
to be comfortable with. How

1725
00:52:46,930 --> 00:52:48,190
does that happen? If you're

1726
00:52:48,190 --> 00:52:49,190
telling me that's the best way

1727
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:51,790
to make it happen. Where then?

1728
00:52:51,790 --> 00:52:53,830
all right, foot. I also now

1729
00:52:53,830 --> 00:52:55,300
question a case. We've got

1730
00:52:55,300 --> 00:52:57,500
multiple providers that do to

1731
00:52:57,500 --> 00:52:58,700
do all the providers. A sense

1732
00:52:58,700 --> 00:52:59,750
it is anything like was des 2

1733
00:52:59,750 --> 00:53:01,250
different than catholic

1734
00:53:01,250 --> 00:53:02,140
charities that usual services

1735
00:53:02,140 --> 00:53:03,830
or nafta or nafta, right?

1736
00:53:03,830 --> 00:53:04,830
like whatever it is a converse

1737
00:53:04,830 --> 00:53:05,900
because they got there.

1738
00:53:05,900 --> 00:53:08,160
>> to the chair. So what I will

1739
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,490
I will save in terms of our

1740
00:53:10,490 --> 00:53:12,770
partners who only make

1741
00:53:12,770 --> 00:53:15,170
appointments for which includes

1742
00:53:15,500 --> 00:53:16,880
the 3 that I mentioned. That is

1743
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,890
expanding. We will be able to

1744
00:53:18,890 --> 00:53:19,920
announce those other partner

1745
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,970
shortly. But for those we make

1746
00:53:21,970 --> 00:53:24,320
free screening appointments for

1747
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,700
every partner does do emergency

1748
00:53:26,700 --> 00:53:28,680
financial assistance, both

1749
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,850
housing rental kind of housing,

1750
00:53:30,850 --> 00:53:32,850
stability, related utilities,

1751
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,320
and every partner generally

1752
00:53:35,450 --> 00:53:37,350
speaking provides that

1753
00:53:37,350 --> 00:53:39,750
assistance based on psg

1754
00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:41,730
dollars. All most of the

1755
00:53:41,730 --> 00:53:43,900
receive psg dollars and other

1756
00:53:43,900 --> 00:53:46,760
funding. The majority of the

1757
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,760
utility assistance that's

1758
00:53:49,100 --> 00:53:50,580
provided is done through

1759
00:53:50,580 --> 00:53:52,240
catholic charities. Mainly,

1760
00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:53,330
of course, is the neighbor to

1761
00:53:53,330 --> 00:53:55,400
neighbor partner and also

1762
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:56,560
because of additional dollars.

1763
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:57,930
but the others do provide

1764
00:53:57,930 --> 00:54:00,180
utility assistance as well.

1765
00:54:00,180 --> 00:54:02,280
nafta, they are one of the

1766
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,660
organizations we have referred

1767
00:54:04,660 --> 00:54:07,300
callers to that they are not

1768
00:54:07,300 --> 00:54:08,590
one of the organizations we

1769
00:54:08,590 --> 00:54:10,360
free screen for. They to your

1770
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,360
point, councilmember count

1771
00:54:12,830 --> 00:54:15,230
councilman, they are receiving

1772
00:54:15,410 --> 00:54:16,930
those cars directly in so we

1773
00:54:16,930 --> 00:54:19,600
don't have any insight to their

1774
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:20,200
infrastructure.

1775
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,860
>> it's because united way does

1776
00:54:21,860 --> 00:54:23,260
under the 2 in one process.

1777
00:54:23,260 --> 00:54:24,800
they do all the pre screening

1778
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,410
before it goes to make sure

1779
00:54:26,410 --> 00:54:27,710
that people are eligible

1780
00:54:27,710 --> 00:54:29,400
ferdaus before it comes to the

1781
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,400
to the

1782
00:54:31,250 --> 00:54:32,260
organizations that put it out

1783
00:54:32,260 --> 00:54:33,390
to go ahead.

1784
00:54:33,390 --> 00:54:34,250
>> and that's where it gets

1785
00:54:34,250 --> 00:54:35,970
confusing. You got all these

1786
00:54:35,970 --> 00:54:37,180
organizations doing the same

1787
00:54:37,180 --> 00:54:38,110
thing in a vice talking to

1788
00:54:38,110 --> 00:54:39,450
anybody. And so now you have

1789
00:54:39,450 --> 00:54:40,460
people who don't know whether

1790
00:54:40,460 --> 00:54:42,180
to call if we're going to say

1791
00:54:42,180 --> 00:54:43,140
it's been the money is a 2,

1792
00:54:43,140 --> 00:54:45,150
1, 1, is it into one needs to

1793
00:54:45,150 --> 00:54:46,290
be able to partner with all of

1794
00:54:46,290 --> 00:54:47,710
the agencies, not just one or 2

1795
00:54:47,710 --> 00:54:49,520
agencies or not just us preset

1796
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:50,690
list the partners, but

1797
00:54:50,690 --> 00:54:51,730
everybody who was doing this

1798
00:54:51,730 --> 00:54:53,550
work or we need to be doing

1799
00:54:53,550 --> 00:54:54,720
direct contracts with the city.

1800
00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:57,230
but I digress. Let me ask

1801
00:54:57,230 --> 00:55:00,830
board, mr. Parts to the chair.

1802
00:55:00,980 --> 00:55:02,170
I'm thinking about those that

1803
00:55:02,170 --> 00:55:03,290
serve the reason I'm a little

1804
00:55:03,290 --> 00:55:05,490
bit reticent for when it comes

1805
00:55:05,490 --> 00:55:07,340
to the money that council can

1806
00:55:07,340 --> 00:55:08,990
do so is is talking about going

1807
00:55:08,990 --> 00:55:10,100
to use him go into the

1808
00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:11,690
reserves. Obviously that's a

1809
00:55:11,690 --> 00:55:12,940
higher threshold to reach to

1810
00:55:12,940 --> 00:55:14,480
get the funds out of the

1811
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:15,420
reserves. The debt service

1812
00:55:15,420 --> 00:55:16,480
fund. There were some funds

1813
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:17,530
that would put are we able to

1814
00:55:17,530 --> 00:55:19,000
touch those funds without going

1815
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,700
through the same 13?

1816
00:55:20,700 --> 00:55:21,990
>> we're past october,

1817
00:55:21,990 --> 00:55:23,430
september 30. So we're in the

1818
00:55:23,430 --> 00:55:24,540
new year. There are no debt

1819
00:55:24,540 --> 00:55:26,800
savings that existed in as part

1820
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,520
of this year's budget. We

1821
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:29,920
changed up how that's.

1822
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,470
>> I get it. I get my question

1823
00:55:31,470 --> 00:55:33,800
was I certain understand that

1824
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:34,540
the question was out of the

1825
00:55:34,540 --> 00:55:35,890
debt savings fund, those funds

1826
00:55:35,890 --> 00:55:37,520
that were there and understand

1827
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,240
when a new fiscal year did

1828
00:55:39,240 --> 00:55:40,730
those funds go back into the

1829
00:55:40,730 --> 00:55:42,250
reserve, go into the reserves,

1830
00:55:42,250 --> 00:55:43,520
anything that was left falls to

1831
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:44,630
the operating users at the end

1832
00:55:44,630 --> 00:55:45,740
of it, I was trying to find to

1833
00:55:45,740 --> 00:55:46,850
see if there's any way that we

1834
00:55:46,850 --> 00:55:48,380
could find. It really did think

1835
00:55:48,380 --> 00:55:49,500
about that. Yeah, that's the

1836
00:55:49,500 --> 00:55:50,920
problem where you're at on

1837
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,500
october 8th, we are 8 days and

1838
00:55:53,500 --> 00:55:54,530
you don't have that like where

1839
00:55:54,530 --> 00:55:55,900
in september we can look at

1840
00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:57,800
what is available with that.

1841
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:58,750
you had some of those separate

1842
00:55:58,750 --> 00:56:00,350
bills that came through and you

1843
00:56:00,350 --> 00:56:01,300
some of that at the end of the

1844
00:56:01,300 --> 00:56:02,420
year. But at this point in

1845
00:56:02,420 --> 00:56:04,240
time, you're basically left

1846
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:05,480
with operating serves unless

1847
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:06,440
you're going in and saying,

1848
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:07,570
I don't want to do this other

1849
00:56:07,570 --> 00:56:09,560
previewing type of programs and

1850
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,700
stuff like that. One of the

1851
00:56:11,700 --> 00:56:12,610
last things I want to say,

1852
00:56:12,610 --> 00:56:13,770
councilmember, if I may

1853
00:56:13,770 --> 00:56:15,700
quickly, I appreciate you give

1854
00:56:15,700 --> 00:56:16,780
me that insight. When we look

1855
00:56:16,780 --> 00:56:18,130
at this, let's make sure.

1856
00:56:18,130 --> 00:56:19,260
well, I do understand there are

1857
00:56:19,260 --> 00:56:20,760
multiple providers in multiple

1858
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:21,580
people doing things in

1859
00:56:21,580 --> 00:56:23,150
different ways. One of the

1860
00:56:23,150 --> 00:56:24,320
things I think that we do not

1861
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,110
use enough is technology.

1862
00:56:26,110 --> 00:56:28,200
I've said before over and over

1863
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:29,320
again, their people, whether

1864
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:30,650
they go to the library's with

1865
00:56:30,650 --> 00:56:31,790
their on their phones, whatever

1866
00:56:31,790 --> 00:56:33,390
the case may be. But some of

1867
00:56:33,390 --> 00:56:35,590
those some of the reserve

1868
00:56:35,590 --> 00:56:37,310
reservations can be done in

1869
00:56:37,310 --> 00:56:38,720
that way. In many ways. I can

1870
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:39,580
tell you how many calls they've

1871
00:56:39,580 --> 00:56:41,500
gotten. And as more does an

1872
00:56:41,500 --> 00:56:43,610
amazing job and her and her

1873
00:56:43,610 --> 00:56:45,560
team there, people are calling

1874
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:46,980
in literally within 2 minutes

1875
00:56:46,980 --> 00:56:48,620
of the morning opening of the

1876
00:56:48,620 --> 00:56:50,260
lines, their appointments or

1877
00:56:50,260 --> 00:56:52,350
field. So if we are able to use

1878
00:56:52,350 --> 00:56:53,590
technology so people can book

1879
00:56:53,590 --> 00:56:55,190
appointments may be whatever

1880
00:56:55,190 --> 00:56:57,710
the case may be to do it

1881
00:56:57,710 --> 00:56:58,930
without talking to a person.

1882
00:56:58,930 --> 00:56:59,800
I think we need to make sure

1883
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,170
we're looking at that so we can

1884
00:57:01,170 --> 00:57:02,190
get those funds.

1885
00:57:02,190 --> 00:57:03,730
>> we want to ask questions as

1886
00:57:03,730 --> 00:57:04,680
a precaution.

1887
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:05,720
>> when I was not a question

1888
00:57:05,720 --> 00:57:06,970
that we need to do it, it's not

1889
00:57:06,970 --> 00:57:08,550
a question that something

1890
00:57:08,550 --> 00:57:09,610
answer. And this morning I

1891
00:57:09,610 --> 00:57:10,440
right,

1892
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:11,290
that's we need to whether it's

1893
00:57:11,290 --> 00:57:12,970
allocating the resources,

1894
00:57:12,970 --> 00:57:14,490
whatever the case may be,

1895
00:57:14,490 --> 00:57:15,780
we need to make sure it's not

1896
00:57:15,780 --> 00:57:16,930
just someone calling in on the

1897
00:57:16,930 --> 00:57:18,470
phone saying it to get my light

1898
00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:19,690
bill paid and they're calling a

1899
00:57:19,690 --> 00:57:21,370
line that doesn't get answered

1900
00:57:21,370 --> 00:57:22,970
for a week or 2 because like I

1901
00:57:22,970 --> 00:57:24,730
said it after a 10 day period,

1902
00:57:24,730 --> 00:57:27,130
the lights are off.

1903
00:57:27,530 --> 00:57:29,240
>> thank you. That this year

1904
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:30,680
just want to say I have to step

1905
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:31,690
out for another meeting,

1906
00:57:31,690 --> 00:57:32,790
but it did get a chance to

1907
00:57:32,790 --> 00:57:34,700
digest the 2 million dollars

1908
00:57:34,700 --> 00:57:36,110
and in support of it and want

1909
00:57:36,110 --> 00:57:37,600
to wreck. You want to say that

1910
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,420
I would like to be a coal

1911
00:57:39,420 --> 00:57:41,300
introduce whatever legislation

1912
00:57:41,300 --> 00:57:42,860
comes out of this because as an

1913
00:57:42,860 --> 00:57:44,900
at-large councilmember, I do

1914
00:57:44,900 --> 00:57:45,280
get all the calls. The same

1915
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,400
calls a council member. Gaffney

1916
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,440
is mention looking to me newly

1917
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:50,770
elected to fix the problems

1918
00:57:50,770 --> 00:57:52,640
that haven't been fixed over

1919
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,240
that period of time. So I am in

1920
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:55,350
support. Thank you, everyone

1921
00:57:55,350 --> 00:57:56,680
for coming out expressing your

1922
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,450
concerns and thank you to both

1923
00:57:58,450 --> 00:58:00,850
chance for this meeting.

1924
00:58:01,140 --> 00:58:02,740
>> thank councilman. We

1925
00:58:02,740 --> 00:58:03,670
appreciate your time. And we we

1926
00:58:03,670 --> 00:58:05,310
were supposed to end this at 5

1927
00:58:05,310 --> 00:58:07,000
mile out of continue to go

1928
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,320
further. Relied to public

1929
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,320
comment. Everything goes

1930
00:58:11,770 --> 00:58:12,730
okay. Excellent. That's gonna

1931
00:58:12,730 --> 00:58:15,200
make sure the next thing I just

1932
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:15,990
to the point of what council

1933
00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:18,290
member don't talk to johnson

1934
00:58:18,290 --> 00:58:20,140
was bringing up with somebody

1935
00:58:20,140 --> 00:58:21,780
credit. You can come back up or

1936
00:58:21,780 --> 00:58:23,520
or anyone else even eileen as

1937
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:24,930
well.

1938
00:58:24,930 --> 00:58:26,760
>> yeah. Want why is that the

1939
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,160
method in which we

1940
00:58:30,180 --> 00:58:32,800
get get recipients are people

1941
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,330
who are applying? Why is that

1942
00:58:34,330 --> 00:58:36,250
the method in which we use?

1943
00:58:36,250 --> 00:58:37,580
I just got a call one day,

1944
00:58:37,580 --> 00:58:38,900
a call at one time as opposed

1945
00:58:38,900 --> 00:58:39,840
to using a more automated

1946
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,840
system.

1947
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,350
>> to the chair, that is a

1948
00:58:44,350 --> 00:58:46,750
method that also is

1949
00:58:48,700 --> 00:58:51,120
use and has venues because

1950
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,410
technology, of course, is

1951
00:58:53,410 --> 00:58:54,970
absolutely an investment that

1952
00:58:54,970 --> 00:58:56,830
requires funding to do so.

1953
00:58:56,830 --> 00:58:59,100
what I will say to first I

1954
00:58:59,100 --> 00:59:01,160
wanted to just acknowledge.

1955
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:02,690
>> kuzma doctor johnson,

1956
00:59:02,690 --> 00:59:04,800
your comment about the

1957
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,290
importance of collaboration.

1958
00:59:06,290 --> 00:59:09,150
that is absolutely what we do a

1959
00:59:09,150 --> 00:59:10,360
united way, our network.

1960
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:11,540
and actually we have quarterly

1961
00:59:11,540 --> 00:59:13,620
meetings with organizations who

1962
00:59:13,620 --> 00:59:15,910
are part of that network in

1963
00:59:15,910 --> 00:59:17,840
also, the reality is not every

1964
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,840
organization either.

1965
00:59:20,290 --> 00:59:22,240
>> also wants to be included in

1966
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,330
the day at the database or some

1967
00:59:24,330 --> 00:59:26,550
refer prefer not to be a part

1968
00:59:26,550 --> 00:59:27,680
of the communion avigation

1969
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,950
network because it does require

1970
00:59:29,950 --> 00:59:31,120
ongoing communication

1971
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,520
collaboration. In addition to

1972
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,560
we close the loop. So not only

1973
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,790
do we I partners help the

1974
00:59:38,790 --> 00:59:40,790
individuals who we're sending

1975
00:59:40,790 --> 00:59:42,790
appointments to those

1976
00:59:42,820 --> 00:59:44,340
organizations are also putting

1977
00:59:44,340 --> 00:59:46,460
that data back into speaking of

1978
00:59:46,460 --> 00:59:48,710
technology back into a system

1979
00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:50,210
that lets us know they were

1980
00:59:50,210 --> 00:59:52,610
successfully helped. And that

1981
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,210
allows for us to take a look at

1982
00:59:54,210 --> 00:59:55,850
this data. And this is a

1983
00:59:55,850 --> 00:59:57,510
system, by the way, a system

1984
00:59:57,510 --> 00:59:58,930
issue that has been a system

1985
00:59:58,930 --> 01:00:02,300
issue for a long time and are

1986
01:00:02,300 --> 01:00:03,380
alice community. And thank you,

1987
01:00:03,380 --> 01:00:04,810
dr moreland for your comment

1988
01:00:04,810 --> 01:00:05,790
there because I alice

1989
01:00:05,790 --> 01:00:08,190
community, they're often making

1990
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,200
decisions about what bills even

1991
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,400
pay. They're making day-to-day

1992
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:13,810
decisions. Do I pay utilities

1993
01:00:13,810 --> 01:00:15,920
first or do I keep a roof over

1994
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:17,860
my head in? So that is a

1995
01:00:17,860 --> 01:00:19,450
systemic change that is going

1996
01:00:19,450 --> 01:00:21,210
to require coordination.

1997
01:00:21,210 --> 01:00:22,910
and that is why united way is

1998
01:00:22,910 --> 01:00:25,170
actually part of a strategy to

1999
01:00:25,170 --> 01:00:27,780
strengthen that system. It is a

2000
01:00:27,780 --> 01:00:29,780
a lot of hard work because as

2001
01:00:29,780 --> 01:00:30,910
you mentioned, there are a lot

2002
01:00:30,910 --> 01:00:32,720
of partners and it is

2003
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,530
disjointed at times and it

2004
01:00:34,530 --> 01:00:36,380
requires is to really be on

2005
01:00:36,380 --> 01:00:38,120
aligned. But the reality is

2006
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:39,830
there will be a network that

2007
01:00:39,830 --> 01:00:41,790
does want to be a part of that

2008
01:00:41,790 --> 01:00:43,630
conversation. And there will

2009
01:00:43,630 --> 01:00:45,490
always be some who preferred to

2010
01:00:45,490 --> 01:00:47,890
remain independent. And that's

2011
01:00:47,890 --> 01:00:49,490
that is why it continues to be

2012
01:00:49,490 --> 01:00:50,350
a challenge. But we are

2013
01:00:50,350 --> 01:00:51,990
committed to solving that

2014
01:00:51,990 --> 01:00:54,260
problem as much as possible.

2015
01:00:54,260 --> 01:00:55,950
>> first and I appreciate that

2016
01:00:55,950 --> 01:00:57,950
for one.

2017
01:00:58,180 --> 01:01:00,300
we just got one final. Thank

2018
01:01:00,300 --> 01:01:01,280
you so much for that would let

2019
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:02,470
me ask. And one of the things

2020
01:01:02,470 --> 01:01:04,250
and I tried to china, you know,

2021
01:01:04,250 --> 01:01:05,820
watch and be a part of this.

2022
01:01:05,820 --> 01:01:08,820
I want as senior citizens

2023
01:01:08,830 --> 01:01:10,490
2 right now as I see miss holly

2024
01:01:10,490 --> 01:01:11,620
misses holly in the front row.

2025
01:01:11,620 --> 01:01:14,140
I see him as robinson a day

2026
01:01:14,140 --> 01:01:16,870
when seniors are in this space

2027
01:01:16,870 --> 01:01:18,130
ms robison. What are you seeing

2028
01:01:18,130 --> 01:01:19,180
them is how you're dealing with

2029
01:01:19,180 --> 01:01:20,870
that every day when you speak

2030
01:01:20,870 --> 01:01:22,270
to what we're doing to

2031
01:01:22,270 --> 01:01:23,560
specifically address that for

2032
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:24,470
senior citizens. And the

2033
01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:25,620
question is, can one of the

2034
01:01:25,620 --> 01:01:26,970
organizations like I know as

2035
01:01:26,970 --> 01:01:27,840
robertson, you're dealing with

2036
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:29,200
this every day with seniors?

2037
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:30,400
we're in our senior sites

2038
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,300
around the city. What can we do

2039
01:01:33,300 --> 01:01:34,180
to get immediate relief to

2040
01:01:34,180 --> 01:01:35,330
senior citizens, especially

2041
01:01:35,330 --> 01:01:36,370
those who are in your program?

2042
01:01:36,370 --> 01:01:37,680
can you speak to that or what

2043
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,200
isn't needed? What could you do

2044
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:40,600
in your program?

2045
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:41,380
>> as she walks about the the

2046
01:01:41,380 --> 01:01:43,130
state state hasn't given the

2047
01:01:43,130 --> 01:01:45,000
money since june. Yeah. Yeah.

2048
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,810
>> it's so we are hearing

2049
01:01:47,810 --> 01:01:49,410
through this year we are

2050
01:01:49,410 --> 01:01:50,590
hearing councilman johnson.

2051
01:01:50,590 --> 01:01:52,200
the need is significant.

2052
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:53,630
we receive approximately

2053
01:01:53,630 --> 01:01:55,710
anywhere from 40 to 50 calls a

2054
01:01:55,710 --> 01:01:57,280
day from seniors who are

2055
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,500
expressing a need to have

2056
01:01:59,500 --> 01:02:01,980
support for their utility bill.

2057
01:02:01,980 --> 01:02:03,880
as I shared earlier, we are

2058
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:05,820
awaiting a contract with

2059
01:02:05,820 --> 01:02:07,640
eldersource to be able to

2060
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,400
resume our heat program.

2061
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,520
and so then we are referring

2062
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,250
any individual calls out to one

2063
01:02:15,250 --> 01:02:17,650
of the community partners.

2064
01:02:20,900 --> 01:02:22,700
>> if we didn't have the chief

2065
01:02:22,700 --> 01:02:23,300
operations officer of

2066
01:02:23,300 --> 01:02:25,100
eldersource. Chris, thank you

2067
01:02:25,100 --> 01:02:26,580
all for hosting us and bringing

2068
01:02:26,580 --> 01:02:28,730
attention to this prevalent

2069
01:02:28,730 --> 01:02:31,380
issue. As our colleague ms

2070
01:02:31,380 --> 01:02:33,200
robison stated, we are

2071
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:34,920
receiving those calls. We're

2072
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,920
likely the

2073
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,110
eldest l the helpline. So we

2074
01:02:39,110 --> 01:02:42,120
get all of the senior elder

2075
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,250
calls that would go to to 1,

2076
01:02:44,250 --> 01:02:46,330
1, I build a hotline, gets

2077
01:02:46,330 --> 01:02:48,490
those. And one thing we can say

2078
01:02:48,490 --> 01:02:50,880
about the senior population as

2079
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,480
well. We have the working class

2080
01:02:54,700 --> 01:02:56,120
who are experiencing these

2081
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:57,300
issues.

2082
01:02:57,300 --> 01:02:59,700
seniors, unlike them, have

2083
01:02:59,870 --> 01:03:02,270
fixed incomes. So as things go

2084
01:03:02,270 --> 01:03:03,240
up,

2085
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:04,660
their income stays the same.

2086
01:03:04,660 --> 01:03:08,220
so the effects and impacts of

2087
01:03:08,220 --> 01:03:09,860
these challenges hit them

2088
01:03:09,860 --> 01:03:11,590
really, really hard. And so the

2089
01:03:11,590 --> 01:03:14,550
choice becomes whether I pay

2090
01:03:14,550 --> 01:03:16,210
utility bill or where they get

2091
01:03:16,210 --> 01:03:18,210
my medication.

2092
01:03:18,350 --> 01:03:20,350
and so we're seeing that so

2093
01:03:20,350 --> 01:03:22,300
much so that we designed

2094
01:03:22,300 --> 01:03:23,590
outside of the state funding

2095
01:03:23,590 --> 01:03:26,590
because we provide the funding

2096
01:03:26,620 --> 01:03:28,780
to the city of jacksonville for

2097
01:03:28,780 --> 01:03:29,900
these the heap services.

2098
01:03:29,900 --> 01:03:32,110
and as rob son stated, that

2099
01:03:32,110 --> 01:03:33,630
contract is being still

2100
01:03:33,630 --> 01:03:36,300
negotiated with the states.

2101
01:03:36,300 --> 01:03:37,170
these services are not

2102
01:03:37,170 --> 01:03:38,500
happening right now for

2103
01:03:38,500 --> 01:03:40,920
seniors. So there is a way to

2104
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,830
get these particular funds to

2105
01:03:43,830 --> 01:03:46,230
seniors right now. It would be

2106
01:03:46,230 --> 01:03:48,520
critical. And we also as

2107
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,330
illness or saw this being an

2108
01:03:50,330 --> 01:03:52,640
issue for years. We designed

2109
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,250
internal program where we

2110
01:03:54,250 --> 01:03:56,250
actually provide utility

2111
01:03:56,380 --> 01:03:57,880
assistance outside of the state

2112
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,600
funding that we get. So that's

2113
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,900
true. Additional grant funding

2114
01:04:01,900 --> 01:04:02,920
has been a drop in an effort.

2115
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,540
and outside of that, we also

2116
01:04:04,540 --> 01:04:05,620
service in additional

2117
01:04:05,620 --> 01:04:07,770
population that don't go to

2118
01:04:07,770 --> 01:04:10,230
through the same scrutiny as a

2119
01:04:10,230 --> 01:04:13,000
state dollars. So because of

2120
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,250
the issues that you pointed out

2121
01:04:14,250 --> 01:04:15,930
earlier.

2122
01:04:15,930 --> 01:04:16,950
>> and I at least want to say

2123
01:04:16,950 --> 01:04:18,600
it's my intention that there

2124
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,600
would be no,

2125
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:21,760
this will not be income

2126
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,260
restricted or a district in $20

2127
01:04:24,260 --> 01:04:27,860
for for those who need help,

2128
01:04:28,700 --> 01:04:30,240
that that would be mind before

2129
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:31,350
ivan up to public comment.

2130
01:04:31,350 --> 01:04:32,800
customer america.

2131
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,200
>> yeah, thank you, mister

2132
01:04:35,850 --> 01:04:37,700
chair.

2133
01:04:37,700 --> 01:04:39,430
I'm sitting here in in

2134
01:04:39,430 --> 01:04:40,980
everything that's been stated

2135
01:04:40,980 --> 01:04:42,480
my previous career of

2136
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,200
experience. And so the cry I'm

2137
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,200
very familiar with

2138
01:04:47,590 --> 01:04:49,970
a few nights ago, we were open

2139
01:04:49,970 --> 01:04:53,000
arms and it wasn't an appeal

2140
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,000
for residents who are having

2141
01:04:56,500 --> 01:04:58,500
difficulty, too

2142
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,600
to be there, if you will.

2143
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,590
in my opinion, I thought the

2144
01:05:03,590 --> 01:05:05,590
attendance of support

2145
01:05:06,770 --> 01:05:09,170
if the cry israel he attended

2146
01:05:09,170 --> 01:05:10,570
since poor.

2147
01:05:10,570 --> 01:05:12,270
but what I discovered with that

2148
01:05:12,270 --> 01:05:15,670
experience is that the jta has

2149
01:05:15,670 --> 01:05:17,640
has made a diligent effort to

2150
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,290
address

2151
01:05:19,290 --> 01:05:21,900
the needs of its rate but

2152
01:05:21,900 --> 01:05:24,890
repairs and so and that

2153
01:05:24,890 --> 01:05:26,180
experience, they were

2154
01:05:26,180 --> 01:05:28,180
addressing human behavior,

2155
01:05:28,390 --> 01:05:30,540
which is a big contributor to

2156
01:05:30,540 --> 01:05:32,190
high bills, not just the rate

2157
01:05:32,190 --> 01:05:34,500
increase and so they were able

2158
01:05:34,500 --> 01:05:36,670
to assist some individuals,

2159
01:05:36,670 --> 01:05:38,530
look at their bills in real

2160
01:05:38,530 --> 01:05:41,360
time and guide them as to how

2161
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,230
they too, can begin saving some

2162
01:05:44,230 --> 01:05:46,310
money, if you will.

2163
01:05:46,310 --> 01:05:47,820
I'm not trying to be debbie

2164
01:05:47,820 --> 01:05:49,270
downer here. I think this is a

2165
01:05:49,270 --> 01:05:51,270
very ambitious effort.

2166
01:05:51,450 --> 01:05:52,410
I think there are some

2167
01:05:52,410 --> 01:05:54,410
realities

2168
01:05:54,540 --> 01:05:56,800
if you're able to get 2 million

2169
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,410
out of operating reserves,

2170
01:05:58,410 --> 01:06:01,140
how do you persuade 10 votes

2171
01:06:01,140 --> 01:06:03,540
when you're saying that 300,000

2172
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,150
is going to go to

2173
01:06:05,150 --> 01:06:06,700
administrative costs versus

2174
01:06:06,700 --> 01:06:09,700
helping to pay bill this?

2175
01:06:10,570 --> 01:06:11,670
if you don't change your

2176
01:06:11,670 --> 01:06:13,670
address, eligibility guidelines

2177
01:06:14,970 --> 01:06:16,200
where

2178
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:17,630
folks have to jump these

2179
01:06:17,630 --> 01:06:19,190
thresholds to be able to get

2180
01:06:19,190 --> 01:06:20,460
help

2181
01:06:20,460 --> 01:06:22,410
once a year or 3 times a year

2182
01:06:22,410 --> 01:06:24,640
or 2 times a year

2183
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:25,910
how you're going to maximize

2184
01:06:25,910 --> 01:06:28,520
the use of these dollars.

2185
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:29,950
if you can't have crossed

2186
01:06:29,950 --> 01:06:31,390
communication between the

2187
01:06:31,390 --> 01:06:33,330
different service providers

2188
01:06:33,330 --> 01:06:35,900
because as you heard united

2189
01:06:35,900 --> 01:06:37,260
way, they just navigate,

2190
01:06:37,260 --> 01:06:39,660
they're not distributing funds,

2191
01:06:39,700 --> 01:06:41,150
then how are you going to help

2192
01:06:41,150 --> 01:06:42,810
those folks?

2193
01:06:42,810 --> 01:06:44,260
what we're experiencing is the

2194
01:06:44,260 --> 01:06:45,860
result of an extremely hot

2195
01:06:45,860 --> 01:06:47,370
summer

2196
01:06:47,370 --> 01:06:49,370
winter's coming.

2197
01:06:49,670 --> 01:06:50,670
so we're going to have that

2198
01:06:50,670 --> 01:06:53,150
cycle all over again. So I just

2199
01:06:53,150 --> 01:06:55,590
food for thought as I sit here

2200
01:06:55,590 --> 01:06:57,270
and again, very ambitious

2201
01:06:57,270 --> 01:06:59,900
effort. But these are some

2202
01:06:59,900 --> 01:07:00,830
realities that can can become

2203
01:07:00,830 --> 01:07:02,330
stumbling blocks to achieve

2204
01:07:02,330 --> 01:07:03,730
anything.

2205
01:07:03,730 --> 01:07:06,130
>> no, thank you. Consummated.

2206
01:07:07,410 --> 01:07:08,530
what are some of the u.s.

2207
01:07:08,530 --> 01:07:09,880
government?

2208
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:11,620
>> yeah, thank you. Opportunity

2209
01:07:11,620 --> 01:07:14,000
at what I do recommend and it's

2210
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,260
up to the body is that

2211
01:07:17,260 --> 01:07:18,210
we might need to have another

2212
01:07:18,210 --> 01:07:19,630
meeting, you know, might be to

2213
01:07:19,630 --> 01:07:20,810
have another notice, meaning

2214
01:07:20,810 --> 01:07:22,810
the next few weeks to try to,

2215
01:07:22,810 --> 01:07:24,780
I guess, figure out the,

2216
01:07:24,780 --> 01:07:26,800
you know, the process itself.

2217
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:27,980
you know, council and mayor

2218
01:07:27,980 --> 01:07:29,130
brought us some great points in

2219
01:07:29,130 --> 01:07:30,820
the last thing we want to

2220
01:07:30,820 --> 01:07:32,360
brian todd colleagues is a bad

2221
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,600
bill in. We are written or

2222
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,460
requires 13 votes, you know,

2223
01:07:38,900 --> 01:07:40,270
and we had a him and 3 coming

2224
01:07:40,270 --> 01:07:41,460
up.

2225
01:07:41,460 --> 01:07:42,470
>> you know, so I maybe I don't

2226
01:07:42,470 --> 01:07:43,470
know if he's going to be

2227
01:07:43,470 --> 01:07:44,640
urgency. I don't know. Does

2228
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:45,910
that go through the committees

2229
01:07:45,910 --> 01:07:47,700
what we think? And so what I'm

2230
01:07:47,700 --> 01:07:49,480
suggesting and proposing may be

2231
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,190
recommending,

2232
01:07:51,190 --> 01:07:52,420
maybe nestle going to follow

2233
01:07:52,420 --> 01:07:53,750
and we might need to come back

2234
01:07:53,750 --> 01:07:54,980
again

2235
01:07:54,980 --> 01:07:56,380
and try to figure out some of

2236
01:07:56,380 --> 01:07:58,760
these things that we heard

2237
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:00,180
today is these issues and

2238
01:08:00,180 --> 01:08:01,630
hopefully we can fix it.

2239
01:08:01,630 --> 01:08:02,870
so we get a better piece of

2240
01:08:02,870 --> 01:08:04,540
legislation. You know, as I

2241
01:08:04,540 --> 01:08:05,520
mean, that they want is

2242
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:06,990
legislation

2243
01:08:06,990 --> 01:08:08,930
the failed. But we just want to

2244
01:08:08,930 --> 01:08:10,810
have a great product and right

2245
01:08:10,810 --> 01:08:12,910
now that so we have a great

2246
01:08:12,910 --> 01:08:14,910
product the past.

2247
01:08:17,410 --> 01:08:19,470
>> frankly, I I I think this

2248
01:08:19,470 --> 01:08:21,860
was your your eye. You thought

2249
01:08:21,860 --> 01:08:22,740
so I'm like, yeah.

2250
01:08:22,740 --> 01:08:23,650
>> yet whatever you want to

2251
01:08:23,650 --> 01:08:26,160
guide. So I think what will go

2252
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:27,240
from here and they got public

2253
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:28,850
comments. And now a lot of the

2254
01:08:28,850 --> 01:08:30,200
colleagues that I mean this

2255
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:31,110
week, the league to have one

2256
01:08:31,110 --> 01:08:32,340
goal of the meeting they

2257
01:08:32,340 --> 01:08:33,690
minutes few weeks and we could

2258
01:08:33,690 --> 01:08:36,100
try to streamline the first to

2259
01:08:36,100 --> 01:08:37,210
see can we get a better piece

2260
01:08:37,210 --> 01:08:38,480
of legislation? One of the

2261
01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:39,980
things the u.s. Army is I think

2262
01:08:39,980 --> 01:08:41,390
my my colleagues go out,

2263
01:08:41,390 --> 01:08:43,230
our colleagues got have harbor

2264
01:08:43,230 --> 01:08:44,640
when he's talking about in the

2265
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:45,730
strait of these. You know,

2266
01:08:45,730 --> 01:08:47,430
it's one thing if it's going to

2267
01:08:47,430 --> 01:08:48,940
services and self. But, you

2268
01:08:48,940 --> 01:08:51,340
know, in 300,000 provide for

2269
01:08:51,580 --> 01:08:52,970
another staff, you know,

2270
01:08:52,970 --> 01:08:54,790
if the

2271
01:08:54,790 --> 01:08:56,780
it'll be tough. But, you know,

2272
01:08:56,780 --> 01:08:58,000
you know, so I think that we

2273
01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:59,350
just need to have more diallo.

2274
01:08:59,350 --> 01:09:01,380
you know, so if you can,

2275
01:09:01,380 --> 01:09:02,780
you can call it a notice mean

2276
01:09:02,780 --> 01:09:04,400
maybe not mislead the following

2277
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,290
weekend. I understand the

2278
01:09:06,290 --> 01:09:07,730
point. We need to do this now,

2279
01:09:07,730 --> 01:09:10,130
but I read the we have a great

2280
01:09:10,130 --> 01:09:11,430
piece of legislation.

2281
01:09:11,430 --> 01:09:14,300
>> before we all for its our

2282
01:09:14,300 --> 01:09:15,380
colleagues.

2283
01:09:15,380 --> 01:09:16,660
>> and we have a greater chance

2284
01:09:16,660 --> 01:09:18,880
of passing. It may be that if

2285
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:20,640
we come back with something

2286
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,400
tangible, right, with still

2287
01:09:23,180 --> 01:09:24,460
stuck on this island piece

2288
01:09:24,460 --> 01:09:26,470
where we just literally heard

2289
01:09:26,470 --> 01:09:27,800
some organizations are doing it

2290
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:28,810
some or not, we don't know

2291
01:09:28,810 --> 01:09:30,700
where to go. We need to come

2292
01:09:30,700 --> 01:09:31,290
back with something tangible

2293
01:09:31,290 --> 01:09:32,800
that we can look at all of us

2294
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:34,570
who have to vote on this thing

2295
01:09:34,570 --> 01:09:36,300
around the table. And we can

2296
01:09:36,300 --> 01:09:37,240
say here is what it looked

2297
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,400
like. Councilmember morrow said

2298
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:40,580
here, the thresholds like

2299
01:09:40,580 --> 01:09:41,910
those. We need some tangible

2300
01:09:41,910 --> 01:09:43,460
that we can work through at the

2301
01:09:43,460 --> 01:09:44,390
next meeting and I think it's

2302
01:09:44,390 --> 01:09:45,570
going to do that.

2303
01:09:45,570 --> 01:09:46,610
>> yeah, I think I think

2304
01:09:46,610 --> 01:09:47,850
meeting next week, right?

2305
01:09:47,850 --> 01:09:50,200
I think we kind of to the point

2306
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:51,800
of the emergent nature of all

2307
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:53,290
this. I don't think we want to

2308
01:09:53,290 --> 01:09:54,600
belabor it. I think we know

2309
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,330
that it's in the u.s.

2310
01:09:57,330 --> 01:09:59,390
I'm hearing a lot. Councilman

2311
01:09:59,390 --> 01:10:00,670
gaffney, I believe is hearing a

2312
01:10:00,670 --> 01:10:03,220
lot. I'm sure councilman mary

2313
01:10:03,220 --> 01:10:04,910
and certainly I'm sure you hear

2314
01:10:04,910 --> 01:10:06,250
in alton.

2315
01:10:06,250 --> 01:10:08,100
>> I heard in my household

2316
01:10:08,100 --> 01:10:10,500
half. Yeah, but but

2317
01:10:11,900 --> 01:10:12,450
>> but the to the to the end of

2318
01:10:12,450 --> 01:10:13,600
all your questions, I think,

2319
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:14,480
yeah, I mean, I think a lot

2320
01:10:14,480 --> 01:10:15,690
more people can eat you want to

2321
01:10:15,690 --> 01:10:17,100
when it comes, the

2322
01:10:17,100 --> 01:10:18,360
administrative support. I mean,

2323
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:19,220
that's just I think the nature

2324
01:10:19,220 --> 01:10:20,760
of

2325
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:22,500
we want this thing to work.

2326
01:10:22,500 --> 01:10:22,990
we want to make sure people

2327
01:10:22,990 --> 01:10:24,260
aren't sitting on the phone for

2328
01:10:24,260 --> 01:10:26,240
7 days like the you know.

2329
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:27,660
so so I get it. I think I don't

2330
01:10:27,660 --> 01:10:30,440
think you're wrong. I think 13

2331
01:10:30,440 --> 01:10:31,590
is a tough number to get

2332
01:10:31,590 --> 01:10:32,940
through and take a lead on

2333
01:10:32,940 --> 01:10:35,860
that. I do want to dive into

2334
01:10:35,860 --> 01:10:37,000
these ghost beings. I will say

2335
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:38,000
to everyone in the audience I

2336
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:38,840
expect to have another meeting

2337
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:40,230
may be next thursday or friday.

2338
01:10:40,230 --> 01:10:41,750
what will will will figure that

2339
01:10:41,750 --> 01:10:43,290
out and also council latest

2340
01:10:43,290 --> 01:10:44,310
tuesday. So make sure to be

2341
01:10:44,310 --> 01:10:45,250
able to announce that our

2342
01:10:45,250 --> 01:10:46,390
council colleagues are aware of

2343
01:10:46,390 --> 01:10:47,690
it in case they can come as

2344
01:10:47,690 --> 01:10:49,220
well. By then we can get a few

2345
01:10:49,220 --> 01:10:50,680
more answers, I think to some

2346
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:51,870
of these questions and make

2347
01:10:51,870 --> 01:10:52,860
sure that we can kind of shore

2348
01:10:52,860 --> 01:10:53,960
up some of the some of the

2349
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:54,880
commentary that was brought up

2350
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:56,460
today, which I think is

2351
01:10:56,460 --> 01:10:57,700
important. And by the way,

2352
01:10:57,700 --> 01:10:58,910
that still

2353
01:10:58,910 --> 01:10:59,980
puts us in a good position.

2354
01:10:59,980 --> 01:11:00,980
we do. It's unlikely the bill

2355
01:11:00,980 --> 01:11:02,750
tomorrow filing deadline is

2356
01:11:02,750 --> 01:11:04,300
still

2357
01:11:04,300 --> 01:11:06,700
13 days from now. So like it

2358
01:11:06,700 --> 01:11:07,140
gives us time to kind of put

2359
01:11:07,140 --> 01:11:08,660
something together if we need

2360
01:11:08,660 --> 01:11:09,600
to. And I think we do an

2361
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:10,860
emergency because of the new

2362
01:11:10,860 --> 01:11:12,800
13, anyway, you might want to

2363
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:13,340
run emergency. This is an

2364
01:11:13,340 --> 01:11:15,740
emerging issue. I believe

2365
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:17,100
it's one of the councilmen

2366
01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:18,800
partner.

2367
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:20,800
>> thank you. Councilmember

2368
01:11:20,900 --> 01:11:21,880
gaffney mention the fact that

2369
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:23,880
amendment 3 is looming.

2370
01:11:23,980 --> 01:11:26,600
I am hoping that it will fail

2371
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,240
and I'm working towards making

2372
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:31,240
sure that it does fail.

2373
01:11:31,830 --> 01:11:32,900
so with that being said,

2374
01:11:32,900 --> 01:11:35,100
italy was to not propose

2375
01:11:35,100 --> 01:11:37,100
anything or actually

2376
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,760
legislation drafted until after

2377
01:11:40,270 --> 01:11:42,300
november. The 3rd, I think that

2378
01:11:42,300 --> 01:11:44,550
would be like it or not to file

2379
01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:46,810
it until after november 3rd.

2380
01:11:46,810 --> 01:11:48,120
>> that too. So make to make it

2381
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:49,530
more palatable to our

2382
01:11:49,530 --> 01:11:51,300
colleagues. I mean, is that the

2383
01:11:51,300 --> 01:11:52,450
economy is not going to change

2384
01:11:52,450 --> 01:11:54,200
whether amendment 3 are not

2385
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,900
passes and what it will.

2386
01:11:56,900 --> 01:11:58,730
it will cause some other

2387
01:11:58,730 --> 01:11:59,980
colleagues not to have as much

2388
01:11:59,980 --> 01:12:02,380
angst about this bill.

2389
01:12:05,230 --> 01:12:06,480
>> if we file it, though,

2390
01:12:06,480 --> 01:12:08,340
and

2391
01:12:08,340 --> 01:12:10,550
but you which would be the 20

2392
01:12:10,550 --> 01:12:11,910
first is the next filing,

2393
01:12:11,910 --> 01:12:13,910
right?

2394
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:15,260
the 21st should be the next

2395
01:12:15,260 --> 01:12:16,870
filing means business committee

2396
01:12:16,870 --> 01:12:18,160
week. So we won't get to

2397
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:19,450
committees remembers. Got to go

2398
01:12:19,450 --> 01:12:20,520
through those first and second

2399
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:21,480
reading. So we still won't get

2400
01:12:21,480 --> 01:12:22,300
the committee into.

2401
01:12:22,300 --> 01:12:23,370
>> after so it might be a good

2402
01:12:23,370 --> 01:12:25,170
idea to have it. Let's pilot we

2403
01:12:25,170 --> 01:12:26,430
will. We will have to debate it

2404
01:12:26,430 --> 01:12:28,270
so that way because think about

2405
01:12:28,270 --> 01:12:29,830
it. If we wait till after the

2406
01:12:29,830 --> 01:12:31,980
vote and then finally we will

2407
01:12:31,980 --> 01:12:33,900
still have to go through that

2408
01:12:33,900 --> 01:12:34,530
too.

2409
01:12:34,530 --> 01:12:35,720
>> periods like it's got file

2410
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:36,900
an emergency. And we do want to

2411
01:12:36,900 --> 01:12:38,200
get to these weeds at numbers.

2412
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:39,390
we could also I was about to

2413
01:12:39,390 --> 01:12:40,430
say, let's have known as being

2414
01:12:40,430 --> 01:12:41,490
next week. I do want to get to

2415
01:12:41,490 --> 01:12:42,560
some public comment cards and

2416
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,150
certain people have been

2417
01:12:44,150 --> 01:12:45,570
waiting.

2418
01:12:45,570 --> 01:12:47,100
>> well, sean taylor,

2419
01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:48,390
come on. Come on up. We're

2420
01:12:48,390 --> 01:12:49,520
going to have you have 2

2421
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:50,470
minutes to speak, sir, if you

2422
01:12:50,470 --> 01:12:52,830
don't mind afterwards, suzanne

2423
01:12:52,830 --> 01:12:55,590
staff followed by dr reverend

2424
01:12:55,590 --> 01:12:56,740
russell meyer.

2425
01:12:56,740 --> 01:12:58,550
>> go ahead, sir. Yeah, I do.

2426
01:12:58,550 --> 01:13:00,100
and thank you for having this

2427
01:13:00,100 --> 01:13:01,240
meeting.

2428
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:02,820
I just want to come. We had is

2429
01:13:02,820 --> 01:13:04,440
mean, I mean, this ne-yo talk

2430
01:13:04,440 --> 01:13:06,200
about other things, mr. Khan

2431
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:07,190
right here is by don't want to

2432
01:13:07,190 --> 01:13:08,210
be close to what we're talking

2433
01:13:08,210 --> 01:13:09,350
about. We need to talk about

2434
01:13:09,350 --> 01:13:10,430
what's going on. Why begins

2435
01:13:10,430 --> 01:13:13,300
program is jay a lot about a

2436
01:13:13,300 --> 01:13:14,800
yelp and the seals all his

2437
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:15,830
money. But now he's in the

2438
01:13:15,830 --> 01:13:17,740
head. Here we go to the south.

2439
01:13:17,740 --> 01:13:20,350
so I want to hear these

2440
01:13:20,350 --> 01:13:21,740
a jacksonville resident.

2441
01:13:21,740 --> 01:13:23,740
I'm a veteran.

2442
01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:24,730
>> okay. Here tonight is did

2443
01:13:24,730 --> 01:13:25,890
you guy that he was going to

2444
01:13:25,890 --> 01:13:27,240
recently? I received a bill

2445
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,450
from 19 $93. At the same time I

2446
01:13:29,450 --> 01:13:31,540
was even notice from jay tell

2447
01:13:31,540 --> 01:13:33,370
me my deposits going increase

2448
01:13:33,370 --> 01:13:35,820
$886 because my count has been

2449
01:13:35,820 --> 01:13:37,400
experiencing what they call

2450
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,660
risks. Events mean. I've been

2451
01:13:39,660 --> 01:13:41,200
late payments. My my my

2452
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:42,740
payment. Could a single parent

2453
01:13:42,740 --> 01:13:44,410
got 3 kids at home. Okay.

2454
01:13:44,410 --> 01:13:46,600
it's hard. Also in february of

2455
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:48,470
20 foreign profits security.

2456
01:13:48,470 --> 01:13:49,570
what do you know on south korea

2457
01:13:49,570 --> 01:13:51,480
works? You can't you don't get

2458
01:13:51,480 --> 01:13:53,500
the money, you know, uneven to

2459
01:13:53,500 --> 01:13:54,940
determine you disable when they

2460
01:13:54,940 --> 01:13:56,240
determine it takes almost 2

2461
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:58,600
years. I have no money coming

2462
01:13:58,600 --> 01:13:59,610
in within that time. Okay.

2463
01:13:59,610 --> 01:14:00,840
so now I got it. I got to meet

2464
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:02,420
this outfit because my life was

2465
01:14:02,420 --> 01:14:04,300
getting cut. They didn't help

2466
01:14:04,300 --> 01:14:05,450
me. It's a real community

2467
01:14:05,450 --> 01:14:07,540
service. The double the

2468
01:14:07,540 --> 01:14:08,730
double-a say we're going to

2469
01:14:08,730 --> 01:14:10,500
double your deposit that out of

2470
01:14:10,500 --> 01:14:13,320
his service with over 15 years.

2471
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,390
okay. So I'm trying to figure

2472
01:14:15,390 --> 01:14:16,680
out where is it helping?

2473
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,900
it had 100 and cdc bounce to my

2474
01:14:19,900 --> 01:14:21,200
next month's bill. I just hate

2475
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,200
them on 9.28. I paid him $500.

2476
01:14:24,740 --> 01:14:26,350
the timely right now today.

2477
01:14:26,350 --> 01:14:28,870
I mean, 583 not immediately on

2478
01:14:28,870 --> 01:14:30,200
an intern. Amanda, great to be

2479
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:31,630
internal. Then guess what?

2480
01:14:31,630 --> 01:14:33,500
they said they some minimal

2481
01:14:33,500 --> 01:14:34,570
bill. I send it to you guys.

2482
01:14:34,570 --> 01:14:35,960
you know that he does morning

2483
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:37,740
some in an abuse and october

2484
01:14:37,740 --> 01:14:40,140
27th. I got to $1800,

2485
01:14:40,730 --> 01:14:43,130
$1800. And then governor sat

2486
01:14:43,140 --> 01:14:44,470
back on on the bottom of the

2487
01:14:44,470 --> 01:14:46,870
site will community-based the

2488
01:14:47,210 --> 01:14:48,940
weather.

2489
01:14:48,940 --> 01:14:50,480
I had a friend.

2490
01:14:50,480 --> 01:14:53,600
he's like to turn off 140,007

2491
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,490
fence. He paid 240 files with

2492
01:14:55,490 --> 01:14:56,730
home thinking it was going to

2493
01:14:56,730 --> 01:14:58,450
be on his case said in a dog,

2494
01:14:58,450 --> 01:14:59,760
you know, they call until you

2495
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,160
meet a $0.07 payments are.

2496
01:15:05,290 --> 01:15:07,290
>> this is said in jacksonville

2497
01:15:07,290 --> 01:15:08,450
got all his money to do

2498
01:15:08,450 --> 01:15:10,140
everything else. 40 million

2499
01:15:10,140 --> 01:15:12,520
dollars you the baby's people.

2500
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:13,870
it pays people always money.

2501
01:15:13,870 --> 01:15:15,800
this event to do what he didn't

2502
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:16,920
know a whole lot. You can hunt

2503
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:18,250
them down out of the year.

2504
01:15:18,250 --> 01:15:20,500
he not even sweating.

2505
01:15:20,500 --> 01:15:21,730
so you went out doing and this

2506
01:15:21,730 --> 01:15:22,900
is what the money is going.

2507
01:15:22,900 --> 01:15:24,330
>> this you're trying to oust

2508
01:15:24,330 --> 01:15:25,330
him to trying to figure out

2509
01:15:25,330 --> 01:15:26,620
what that's not helping people

2510
01:15:26,620 --> 01:15:28,000
right now. That's not helping

2511
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:29,000
that family and the daylight.

2512
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,140
so could a one game

2513
01:15:31,140 --> 01:15:32,750
won't give him the power to the

2514
01:15:32,750 --> 01:15:35,180
ice and on iraq by family

2515
01:15:35,180 --> 01:15:37,000
dollar young $150 may close in

2516
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:38,560
city right now than I see the

2517
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:39,600
lights.

2518
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,170
think about. Cvs and walgreens.

2519
01:15:41,170 --> 01:15:42,280
see the lights on that

2520
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:43,270
building. Thank you, sir.

2521
01:15:43,270 --> 01:15:44,260
need to get stick around after

2522
01:15:44,260 --> 01:15:45,850
the meeting at appreciate.

2523
01:15:45,850 --> 01:15:47,280
I'm a veteran. Is there a

2524
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:48,310
disabled veteran and I've got 3

2525
01:15:48,310 --> 01:15:49,390
kids at home.

2526
01:15:49,390 --> 01:15:52,420
>> I want it the humid today.

2527
01:15:52,420 --> 01:15:54,820
>> next, sarah, a project

2528
01:15:56,350 --> 01:15:59,350
suzanne cent. Come on out.

2529
01:16:01,300 --> 01:16:03,900
I assume your doctor, reverend

2530
01:16:03,900 --> 01:16:06,290
russell, my I have.

2531
01:16:06,290 --> 01:16:07,560
>> and the pastor, saint john's

2532
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:08,660
lutheran church in human

2533
01:16:08,660 --> 01:16:10,750
infield hit to 10th in silver.

2534
01:16:10,750 --> 01:16:11,990
and after you, it's a michel

2535
01:16:11,990 --> 01:16:13,860
rivera. And then john, any

2536
01:16:13,860 --> 01:16:14,820
better?

2537
01:16:14,820 --> 01:16:18,280
yes, I live in a historic

2538
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,480
riverside had a certain

2539
01:16:20,480 --> 01:16:22,480
historic springfield. 28 1% of

2540
01:16:24,350 --> 01:16:26,500
the homes in jacksonville's

2541
01:16:26,500 --> 01:16:27,710
service by jta were built

2542
01:16:27,710 --> 01:16:29,710
before 1970. They were built

2543
01:16:29,710 --> 01:16:31,420
before air conditioning.

2544
01:16:31,420 --> 01:16:32,580
they all need energy

2545
01:16:32,580 --> 01:16:34,580
efficiency.

2546
01:16:34,940 --> 01:16:36,230
when we bought our home,

2547
01:16:36,230 --> 01:16:37,840
I had the funds.

2548
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:39,860
I spent somewhere between 5

2549
01:16:39,860 --> 01:16:42,420
$10,000 to insulate my home so

2550
01:16:42,420 --> 01:16:43,780
that we brought down our bill

2551
01:16:43,780 --> 01:16:46,780
from $400 a month to $200 a

2552
01:16:47,300 --> 01:16:49,800
month.

2553
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:51,480
je provides no assistance

2554
01:16:53,900 --> 01:16:54,980
for low-income people are for

2555
01:16:54,980 --> 01:16:57,380
renters to take their

2556
01:16:58,450 --> 01:17:00,190
living spaces and to energy

2557
01:17:00,190 --> 01:17:02,120
efficiency. It doesn't have to

2558
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:03,240
we need to get to an ethical

2559
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:05,240
foundation because where

2560
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,890
municipal utility will have to

2561
01:17:07,890 --> 01:17:09,800
play by the rules that investor

2562
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:11,410
utilities have to play with

2563
01:17:11,410 --> 01:17:13,660
going before the psc. Tampa

2564
01:17:13,660 --> 01:17:15,660
electric provided energy

2565
01:17:16,250 --> 01:17:18,250
efficiency for 32,000 people.

2566
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:20,280
last year

2567
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,920
I lived in tampa. I one time I

2568
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:27,260
was able to get a rebate on my

2569
01:17:27,260 --> 01:17:29,660
energy, put $600 of insulation.

2570
01:17:29,810 --> 01:17:32,860
my attic. And I say $2000 that

2571
01:17:32,860 --> 01:17:34,870
month that here on my electric

2572
01:17:34,870 --> 01:17:35,800
bill,

2573
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:37,830
we don't have an energy

2574
01:17:37,830 --> 01:17:39,850
efficiency program. It's on

2575
01:17:39,850 --> 01:17:42,250
ethical as a community-based

2576
01:17:42,420 --> 01:17:44,920
public utility not to be

2577
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:46,110
helping.

2578
01:17:46,110 --> 01:17:48,510
40% of the population have

2579
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:50,880
affordable bills. Whatever the

2580
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,560
rate is, I have members who are

2581
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:55,780
behind an extended in except

2582
01:17:55,780 --> 01:17:58,240
for a I have members who who

2583
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,760
who can't go out and borrow the

2584
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,400
money. Yeah, they can get an

2585
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,510
audit, but it dotted just tells

2586
01:18:04,510 --> 01:18:05,520
you what you need to do.

2587
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:07,220
there's no help for what needs

2588
01:18:07,220 --> 01:18:09,620
to be done. 1300 seniors

2589
01:18:10,430 --> 01:18:12,420
perhaps were helped. This is

2590
01:18:12,420 --> 01:18:14,420
unconscionable.

2591
01:18:15,650 --> 01:18:18,280
jay eas money is the public's

2592
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:20,560
money. It's not their money

2593
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,950
140 million a year to the city.

2594
01:18:22,950 --> 01:18:25,300
an extra 40 minute million this

2595
01:18:25,300 --> 01:18:26,450
year. You're talking about

2596
01:18:26,450 --> 01:18:28,110
2 million coming back to the

2597
01:18:28,110 --> 01:18:29,270
rate payers.

2598
01:18:29,270 --> 01:18:30,410
>> who are in desperate,

2599
01:18:30,410 --> 01:18:32,410
desperate, desperate need.

2600
01:18:32,670 --> 01:18:34,520
where's the ethics? And this?

2601
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,430
where is love the neighbor as

2602
01:18:36,430 --> 01:18:38,550
yourself? I don't see it.

2603
01:18:38,550 --> 01:18:40,110
I would like to see it. I'd

2604
01:18:40,110 --> 01:18:42,160
like my public utility to

2605
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,300
actually love me and the rest

2606
01:18:44,300 --> 01:18:45,310
of the public. And I like the

2607
01:18:45,310 --> 01:18:47,480
city council that oversees it

2608
01:18:47,480 --> 01:18:49,150
to make certain the execute on

2609
01:18:49,150 --> 01:18:51,160
that love and levin public

2610
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:52,950
means doing right to doing

2611
01:18:52,950 --> 01:18:54,760
justice for everybody in the

2612
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:56,800
community. Please, please go

2613
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,620
the whole way. Not just an

2614
01:18:58,620 --> 01:19:00,620
inch. Thank you.

2615
01:19:02,310 --> 01:19:04,310
shower there.

2616
01:19:08,580 --> 01:19:09,930
>> good afternoon or good

2617
01:19:09,930 --> 01:19:11,930
evening. Michelle rivera,

2618
01:19:12,110 --> 01:19:14,110
retired navy chief.

2619
01:19:16,150 --> 01:19:17,370
I'm a realtor with keller

2620
01:19:17,370 --> 01:19:20,370
williams led by any houses.

2621
01:19:22,500 --> 01:19:23,690
I live in a community and you

2622
01:19:23,690 --> 01:19:25,200
love love landing in committee

2623
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,450
page. Everyone has are

2624
01:19:27,450 --> 01:19:28,710
complaining about include

2625
01:19:28,710 --> 01:19:30,450
myself about the half

2626
01:19:30,450 --> 01:19:32,120
the high rate that the increase

2627
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:33,660
in our budget bill.

2628
01:19:33,660 --> 01:19:36,100
my over the past few months,

2629
01:19:36,100 --> 01:19:37,660
I like to bill,

2630
01:19:37,660 --> 01:19:39,440
almost tripled,

2631
01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:41,800
almost tripled in the last few

2632
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:42,390
months. I've been a home on or

2633
01:19:42,390 --> 01:19:44,790
since 2014 in that community.

2634
01:19:45,860 --> 01:19:47,690
I did receive a letter out of

2635
01:19:47,690 --> 01:19:48,840
the consumption. There may be

2636
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,400
an increase in consumption.

2637
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:52,510
okay. Let me call to make an

2638
01:19:52,510 --> 01:19:53,830
appointment for somebody come

2639
01:19:53,830 --> 01:19:55,220
on and do an audit. It takes

2640
01:19:55,220 --> 01:19:57,220
over a month.

2641
01:19:57,420 --> 01:19:59,340
why did you why the turnaround

2642
01:19:59,340 --> 01:20:02,200
time so long? In the meantime,

2643
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:03,940
my bill is increasing and

2644
01:20:03,940 --> 01:20:05,340
increasing.

2645
01:20:05,340 --> 01:20:06,910
it is with all the new

2646
01:20:06,910 --> 01:20:08,170
infrastructure that's going on

2647
01:20:08,170 --> 01:20:09,400
around the city, which I love.

2648
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:10,400
I love that. You know, you

2649
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,260
know, we're trying to build up

2650
01:20:12,260 --> 01:20:14,350
this city says, because I guess

2651
01:20:14,350 --> 01:20:15,570
that was warren city in

2652
01:20:15,570 --> 01:20:17,280
america.

2653
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,870
but I those additional costs

2654
01:20:19,870 --> 01:20:22,680
coming to us as a residence,

2655
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:24,210
our goal or the contractor,

2656
01:20:24,210 --> 01:20:25,150
the commercial contractor,

2657
01:20:25,150 --> 01:20:26,650
they not plant put pulling

2658
01:20:26,650 --> 01:20:30,250
their share with jay and 2 to

2659
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:33,210
subsidize our our cars that

2660
01:20:33,210 --> 01:20:34,760
were the one paying for those

2661
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:36,410
increased building

2662
01:20:36,410 --> 01:20:38,160
infrastructure.

2663
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:39,300
can the extra money that the

2664
01:20:39,300 --> 01:20:40,850
council are getting? Can can

2665
01:20:40,850 --> 01:20:42,630
they subsidize with jake's

2666
01:20:42,630 --> 01:20:44,400
honest and you guys do need to

2667
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:46,440
fix infrastructure, get your

2668
01:20:46,460 --> 01:20:48,160
coding up to date. So beware

2669
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:49,780
fission with the power.

2670
01:20:49,780 --> 01:20:51,480
but we're paying for it was a

2671
01:20:51,480 --> 01:20:53,450
relief in the these the whole

2672
01:20:53,450 --> 01:20:55,620
time. I sat here

2673
01:20:55,620 --> 01:20:57,540
to listen to relief was the

2674
01:20:57,540 --> 01:20:59,920
only one time my goes up to

2675
01:20:59,920 --> 01:21:02,100
date was still was one payment.

2676
01:21:02,100 --> 01:21:03,990
that's a help.

2677
01:21:03,990 --> 01:21:06,590
we need a total. I look at this

2678
01:21:06,590 --> 01:21:08,110
again because I me for my bill

2679
01:21:08,110 --> 01:21:10,900
to the almost 3 times. More is

2680
01:21:10,900 --> 01:21:12,900
ridiculous.

2681
01:21:13,890 --> 01:21:15,380
very much. Thank you for

2682
01:21:15,380 --> 01:21:18,380
coming. And then john, any

2683
01:21:23,150 --> 01:21:25,220
yes, it is. And

2684
01:21:25,220 --> 01:21:28,210
>> got a h*** land. John.

2685
01:21:28,210 --> 01:21:30,210
jay new knee

2686
01:21:30,370 --> 01:21:32,370
jacksonville's, 83. 56 bascom

2687
01:21:33,900 --> 01:21:34,990
row jacksonville, florida,

2688
01:21:34,990 --> 01:21:36,990
3, 2, 2, 6,

2689
01:21:39,470 --> 01:21:41,500
you know, I want to start with,

2690
01:21:41,500 --> 01:21:44,190
you know, just year I just came

2691
01:21:44,190 --> 01:21:45,180
from the truth commission

2692
01:21:45,180 --> 01:21:46,410
meeting

2693
01:21:46,410 --> 01:21:48,430
and on the truth commission,

2694
01:21:48,430 --> 01:21:50,830
you know, as amendment 3

2695
01:21:51,210 --> 01:21:53,610
and then this notice

2696
01:21:55,500 --> 01:21:57,380
notice meeting and j a utility

2697
01:21:57,380 --> 01:21:59,380
assistance programs. Will the

2698
01:21:59,380 --> 01:22:00,630
true commissioner coming out

2699
01:22:00,630 --> 01:22:02,670
with a true to your system?

2700
01:22:02,670 --> 01:22:05,700
so jay utility assistance

2701
01:22:05,570 --> 01:22:06,980
programs, northeast florida

2702
01:22:06,980 --> 01:22:08,630
regional council

2703
01:22:08,630 --> 01:22:11,180
find yesterday. Well, I just

2704
01:22:11,180 --> 01:22:13,700
want to share with you.

2705
01:22:13,700 --> 01:22:14,490
this was a notice meeting with

2706
01:22:14,490 --> 01:22:16,490
monet holder

2707
01:22:16,910 --> 01:22:19,550
and it's j. You know, jordan,

2708
01:22:19,550 --> 01:22:23,150
pope one for, you know, and

2709
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:26,390
term sorry, ogc and where I'm

2710
01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:28,580
going with it is with data

2711
01:22:28,580 --> 01:22:30,800
centers.

2712
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,450
you know, I was asked yesterday

2713
01:22:32,450 --> 01:22:34,700
new look at all 3 television

2714
01:22:34,700 --> 01:22:35,480
networks and data centers.

2715
01:22:35,480 --> 01:22:37,200
it's like hello

2716
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,420
besides how big they are.

2717
01:22:39,420 --> 01:22:41,400
but you know what I was asking,

2718
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,470
which is the small stuff

2719
01:22:43,470 --> 01:22:45,470
data center.

2720
01:22:46,950 --> 01:22:49,350
the reason I'm saying

2721
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:51,520
is because

2722
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,520
they are small

2723
01:22:53,810 --> 01:22:56,810
and it could be utilized

2724
01:22:56,830 --> 01:22:58,430
in my opinion

2725
01:22:58,430 --> 01:23:00,830
as a revenue stream

2726
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:03,840
for utility assistance and the

2727
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:05,840
council districts,

2728
01:23:07,310 --> 01:23:09,130
you know, you talk about

2729
01:23:09,130 --> 01:23:11,150
creating jobs and everything

2730
01:23:11,150 --> 01:23:12,330
else.

2731
01:23:12,330 --> 01:23:14,100
I just wanted to bring that to

2732
01:23:14,100 --> 01:23:15,800
your attention

2733
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:17,800
and

2734
01:23:19,530 --> 01:23:22,260
it could be just part of an

2735
01:23:22,260 --> 01:23:25,260
answer. And again, jay, like

2736
01:23:25,730 --> 01:23:26,960
you said,

2737
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,840
when just just look into that

2738
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:31,940
because I will be and I asked

2739
01:23:31,940 --> 01:23:33,460
that yesterday

2740
01:23:33,460 --> 01:23:36,130
and so I can't wait to see jay

2741
01:23:36,130 --> 01:23:37,180
a

2742
01:23:37,180 --> 01:23:39,760
with the smallest that isn't

2743
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:41,760
yours

2744
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:43,690
because it's a national news

2745
01:23:43,690 --> 01:23:45,170
story.

2746
01:23:45,170 --> 01:23:47,570
any could be utilized

2747
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,960
for the cake for districts

2748
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:55,960
assisting

2749
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:57,510
with this.

2750
01:23:57,510 --> 01:23:59,910
thank you. It's me.

2751
01:24:04,420 --> 01:24:06,000
>> I think we've said a lot

2752
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,230
here today. I think we're kind

2753
01:24:07,230 --> 01:24:08,130
of moving in a similar

2754
01:24:08,130 --> 01:24:09,160
direction. I think what

2755
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:10,620
councilmember american summer,

2756
01:24:10,620 --> 01:24:13,200
dr johnson, obviously chair

2757
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:16,140
gaffney and kind of says let's

2758
01:24:16,140 --> 01:24:17,540
catch you on this all the more

2759
01:24:17,540 --> 01:24:18,610
puzzling together. It's a

2760
01:24:18,610 --> 01:24:20,640
little more concrete. I agree

2761
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:21,490
with that assessment. We do

2762
01:24:21,490 --> 01:24:22,510
have some time to do it like

2763
01:24:22,510 --> 01:24:24,310
tonight. Notice next week next

2764
01:24:24,310 --> 01:24:26,290
week. And I think we'll be in

2765
01:24:26,290 --> 01:24:27,310
touch with many of the folks

2766
01:24:27,310 --> 01:24:28,260
who spoke here today to make

2767
01:24:28,260 --> 01:24:29,670
sure that we're kind of getting

2768
01:24:29,670 --> 01:24:31,730
a better plan, bring down some

2769
01:24:31,730 --> 01:24:33,370
legislation, kind of going that

2770
01:24:33,370 --> 01:24:35,900
route. Any other comments,

2771
01:24:35,900 --> 01:24:36,570
anyone else

2772
01:24:36,570 --> 01:24:38,570
meeting's adjourned.

2773
01:24:42,470 --> 01:24:43,940
I've never heard a sound like

2774
01:24:43,940 --> 01:24:45,940
that.