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Let it be warned, the legal voters of

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the town of Jamaica in the county of

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Windham in the state of Vermont are

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hereby notified and warned to meet at

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10:00 a.m. at the town hall in said town

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of Jamaica on the first Tuesday of

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March, March 3rd, 2026 to transact the

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following business and act upon the

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following articles. Before we get

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started, we have Laura Sabilar, our

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state rep here. So, she's going to talk

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a little bit about and update us on on

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the executive. Laura,

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» good morning everyone.

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It's great to see you all. I love town

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meeting. Um, even when we don't agree,

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it's great to have us all gathered

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together practicing democracy and

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governing our communities and state. I

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have this morning a resolution that I'd

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like to read.

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Uh, House Concurrent Resolution honoring

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the decades of extraordinary civic

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participation and leadership of Lexa and

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Steve in the town of Jamaica.

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Whereas the breadth of Lexa Clark's

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public service is diverse, but it has

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strongly focused on the provision of

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emergency services as she initially

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enrolled in EMT courses during the

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1970s, was instrumental in organizing

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the Jamaica Rescue Squad, and still

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dutifully responds to every rescue call.

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And whereas from 1979 to 1980, she

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closely monitored Jamaica's finances as

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the town's auditor and bookkeeper. And

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whereas for a dozen years, Lexa Clark

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served on the Jamaica Select Board 2006

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to 2018 and admirably met the unique

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challenge of chairing the panel when

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tropical storm Irene devastated the town

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to an unprecedented extent. and recently

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she has assumed a governance role at the

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Jamaica Memorial Library. And whereas

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Steve Clark's roles at the Jamaica

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Village Cemetery began as a youth and

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have included serving as both secretary

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and treasurer. And whereas among his

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municipal panel memberships were the

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village school board from 1982 to 1985

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and the planning commission from 1979 to

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1988.

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And whereas for over half a century,

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Steve Clark was associated with the

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town's fire and rescue services,

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including as treasurer and auditor, and

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was proud of his designation as an

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honorary member of the fire department.

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And whereas for 52 years, Steve Clark

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served as Jamaica's trustee of public

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funds, for three decades as the town's

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grand juror, and since 2005 as the

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Jamaica Historical Foundation President,

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and professionally for nearly a quarter

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century, Steve Clark was a Vermont

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National Bank Vice President. And

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whereas Alexa and Steve Clark exemplify

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outstanding municipal citizenship.

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Now therefore, be it resolved by the

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Senate and House of Representatives that

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the General Assembly honors the decades

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of extraordinary civic participation and

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leadership of Lexa and Steve Clark in

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the town of Jamaica. And be it further

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resolved that the STE Secretary of State

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be directed to send a copy of this

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resolution to Lexa and Steve Clark.

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Steve, would you come up? Would you come

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up, please?

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» Thank you so much.

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I think we have another.

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» Good morning everyone. My name is Chuck

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here in town and I'm a captain on the

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fire department. I'm here to read a

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speech on our uh fire chief's uh behalf,

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Mr. Scott Gordon. Um so I'll get into

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As Chief of Jamaica Volunteer Fire and

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Rescue, I would like to take a moment to

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rest recognize Steven Lexa Clark for

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their lifetime of service to this

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community. Their dedication to serving

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the residents of Jamaica and surrounding

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towns as well has been unmatched in my

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opinion. When my family and I moved back

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to Jamaica 7 years ago, I was asked if I

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would like to join the department. Lexa

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Clark was one of the first members I

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met. She welcomed me right away. Steve

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and Lexa became fast friends of my

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family and have become surrogate

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grandparents to our daughters. They're

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like family to us. It didn't take long

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to realize that almost all of the

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Jamaica community is like family to

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Steve and Alexa. There has not been an

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emergency call I've been on where Alexa

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didn't know the patient or their family.

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I have seen the look of relief and

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comfort on patients faces when they see

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Lexa walking in with a lime jacket and

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orange medical bag. They know it's not

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just a stranger, it's a friend.

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Steve Clark served for many years on the

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department and though I haven't had the

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pleasure to serve alongside him, having

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heard some of the tales of those times,

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I wish I had. The stories of building a

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skating pond for the kids in the winter,

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make sure everyone was safe, and of

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course, tales of fire and rescue at a

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time when the department was a small

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percentage of the size of his family.

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Steve achieve and wit brightens every

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room I've ever been in with him, and I'm

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proud to call him my friend. Lexa Clark

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was instrumental in forming the Jamaica

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Rescue Squad and has been his backbone

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since it was formed. She continues to

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serve as rescue captain and most likely

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goes to more calls than the rescue

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department. She is our longest serving

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member and has cared for our department

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like no one has before. On behalf of my

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family, Jamaica Volunteer Fire and

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Rescue and the entire Jamaica community,

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I would like to thank Steve and Lester

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Clark for their lifetime of service to

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their community for being outstanding

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neighbors and cherished friends from the

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bottom of our hearts. Scott

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Go ahead. Laura's going to speak have

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some other things to talk about.

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>> Okay. And so, uh, I'm happy I'll I'll

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give you a few brief updates about what

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I've been up to and then answer

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questions, um, to the extent that you

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would like to hear them. I need to try

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and leave by 10:30 to meet with Strat

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next. Uh, so

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briefly, I have provided an update,

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printed update. It's over um with the

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town clerk, and I do have a weekly

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update that goes out. you can sign up on

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my website. Uh so,

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thank you all for electing me. I'm now

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in my sixth term in the legislature. Uh

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this is my second term representing

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Jamaica.

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uh serve on the environment and digital

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infrastructure committee in the house

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and I also am a co-chair of the rural

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caucus and also of the Vermont National

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Guard and Veterans Affairs Caucus.

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This year uh the big issue for me has

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been around Act 250 reform. In 2022, the

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legislature passed act 181, which is a

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major reform of act 250. It calls for

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uh act 250 to be applicable based on

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where you are as opposed to what your

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project is, which is a big change. So

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there is mapping happening throughout

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the state and rule making happening by

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the land use review board, that's the

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natural resources board.

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caucus has led an effort which has a lot

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of agreement uh to delay that work to

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make sure that Vermonters can keep a

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pace with the changes can participate in

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the rule making and can understand the

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impacts potentially to their land before

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this goes in place. uh we have agreement

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and support from the Vermont legal

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cities and towns, the Vermont Chamber,

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the regional planning commissions and

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others. That work is happening right now

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in the Senate. Uh that has been really a

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big issue for me this year. Uh in

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addition, I have our committee has

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focused on notice when copper landlines

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are changed for fiber.

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state and there's a difference between

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copper and fiber in terms of your

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ability to call for help if the power is

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out. And so that's a pretty serious um

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issue that we want to stay on top of. Uh

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Consolidated has been switching and

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retiring their copper. In order to do

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that, they need the federal government's

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permission. And uh when they go to get

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the federal government's permission,

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there are very few people that are

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noticed. The governor is noticed, the

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public utility commission is noticed,

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and the secretary of defense is noticed.

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Uh customers get a small marketing piece

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in their bills. And so we have found

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that people's understanding of what's

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happening has not matched um has not

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matched the timeline. So our committee

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has worked on increasing uh notice uh

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both to the 911 board to the department

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of public service and really providing

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more information to customers about your

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rights um and consumer protection law in

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the state of Vermont.

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Uh in addition, I think this is a town

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that uh that has the local option tax on

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something. Is that true?

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>> So, uh the local option tax, many of you

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will know uh that is Hey, I love looking

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around and see if people really know.

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>> Oh, there's Kate. Um so, local option

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tax. uh before uh

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it was 70% the town was able to retain

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and 30% the state would use for payment

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move taxes. That's payments to towns

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that host state buildings. More and more

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towns have been raising local option tax

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electing to do that. uh although it is

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still a minority of Vermont towns and

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as they have been doing that a surplus

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has been gathering. I think I talked

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with you all maybe about this last year

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at town meeting. Uh surpluses are not

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good things to gather in state

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government. People are always looking

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for money. So last year the governor

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proposed using some of that surplus for

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flood recovery. uh and the in response

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uh there was a change. Towns now able to

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keep 75% 25% to uh the state. However,

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more towns have elected to tax

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themselves with the local option tax.

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And so that surplus is growing and once

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again this year there is uh reaching in

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and saying oh let's take $8 million of

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that out for the statewide reappraisal.

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So this is a problem for me. You all had

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to discuss amongst yourselves whether or

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not you wanted to raise that tax here in

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your town. You understood the parameters

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by which you were doing that. And so I'm

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hoping that this year we're actually

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going to talk about and change the law

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uh about what those dollars can be used

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for. I don't think it's appropriate for

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you to vote for it to be used for one

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thing and then the state would decide

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they'll be using it for something else.

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there's a lot to be said about energy.

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on which are uh which is the sighting of

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data centers. I don't know if folks have

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heard about data centers. Um it there is

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it's a huge huge thing that is happening

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in the country. Um some states saw this

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as a boom uh property tax revenue etc.

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They are enormous consumers of

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electricity and water. They make a lot

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of noise. They are not they don't bring

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a lot of jobs. Um they do pay property

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tax. They also may invest significantly

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in public infrastructure so they don't

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use it. We don't think that it's really

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that likely that we will see a data

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center in Vermont, but if we did or even

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in New England, it could be very

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impactful to our electric rates. And so

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our committee is working on if a data

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center were to come to Vermont, how

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would we want that to locate people and

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to make sure that we understand if we

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have uh environmental laws and water

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laws and energy laws in place that would

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um protect others. Finally, I would say

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um in terms of uh the education reform

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debate, and I know Jamaica continues to

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have heartache around education. Um

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these are difficult discussions in the

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legislature as well. Uh it is always

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that way and uh it is always where can

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we get enough votes to move forward. Um

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it is that divisive in the legislature.

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In the house you need 76 people to agree

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which is very hard on education. In the

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senate you need 16 to agree also very

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hard. And then the governor needs to

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agree. This year, the governor has said

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that he will not sign a budget or

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education law if we do not continue to

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proceed with education reform in act 73.

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I believe the language that he used

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provides flexibility for what that might

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be. Uh but that is still unfolding.

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Right now there are two maps um which

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one should think about as governance

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maps. These are consolidation of boards

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that are being contemplated.

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Uh and

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a lot to say about that. Um also really

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nothing to say about it at the same

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time. It is a very unclear. Uh so I will

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leave it at that. Um happy to take

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questions. I also will say I have

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decided that I would like to run again

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to represent you. I have petitions

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circulating here. Um I hope to be able

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to grab them and take them to Stratton.

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So, if you would send them towards the

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back if you have them. And Mr. I'll take

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questions as long as you

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>> question.

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DB Fiber.

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>> Yes.

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>> Do you know what the status is of their

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um progress towards other towns like

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>> So,

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>> I don't want to Is there anybody from DB

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Fiber here?

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>> Yeah. Okay.

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>> And our our representative on the JPC is

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not here. Yeah,

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>> he actually Well, because you know we're now looking for an affiliate to be

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affiliated status.

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>> I don't know.

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>> Because we can't. In other words, we

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can't we're not part of the cut anymore.

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Not part

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>> Oh,

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>> yeah. But we will be represented by an

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affiliated town.

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>> Okay.

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I did not know that.

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>> Yeah. Just Yeah.

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>> Last few weeks. Yeah.

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» Um is there anybody on JP? you know, I

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unfortunately I'm not I'm not um I'm a

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recipient of the information instead of

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a participant, not a member of the JPC.

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Um essentially um you know, consolidated

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was awarded um the um the RFP for uh the

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area that includes Jamaica.

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>> Uh DV Fiber did not. However, and and of

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course our concern is that that means

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the last mile, which is the folks that

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are the most rural and the farthest from

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uh an urb, you know, a more densely

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populated area, will not be served

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adequately served by broadband, which is

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one of the reasons why our communication

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unions district was really working very

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closely with DV Fiber. So DV Fiber is

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not gone. It's just unfortunately was

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not awarded Jamaica.

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>> Okay. So that I understood. Okay. Okay.

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When I heard you say you were

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unaffiliated, did you guys leave the

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CUD?

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>> Well, so be so because of that, right,

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our role in the CUD is is minimized and

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our representative

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>> is is he's retiring. He's retire, you

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know, he's welld deserved retirement

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from those roles.

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>> Um, but Jamaica does have an option to

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be represented. So we don't actually

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have a formal vote on the CUD, but we

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would have a another town would serve as

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our kind of representative. We'd have an

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indirect vote and of course we can

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always attend,

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>> but that's kind of that's our legal

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status right now.

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>> Yes. Okay, great. So there were bead is

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the money u broadband equity. Oh, I'm

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going to forget it. Um but it was

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hundreds of millions of dollars that

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were awarded to states and billions

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actually to states and uh this is uh

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areas had to bid on or companies had to

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bid on different areas and I understand

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um this this area uh consolidated

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provided the lowest bid for getting to

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um your addresses and so that was that

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had to be taken into account by the

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community broadband report. So,

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um I would just encourage you all though

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if you have challenges, please continue

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to reach out to me, reach out to the

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Department of Public Service. Um I'm I'm

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worried um about consolidating.

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Laura,

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>> could you say anything about the Vermont

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National Guard deployment to Saudi

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Arabia or Iran?

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>> Uh,

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what my opinion of it?

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>> Well,

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you know what's going on? I think

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there's also fighter jets from

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Burlington involved.

420
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>> Yeah. I just wondered if you could

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explain what's going on.

422
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>> So, I believe that the F-35s, I believe

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others have independently confirmed

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their the uh Air Wing, which has F-35s,

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the Vermont Air Guard, has been deployed

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um they were deployed to the Caribbean

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um and then were deployed to the Middle

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East. So, um, those of you who receive

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emails from me, there is a pretty

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active, uh, effort for defend this

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legislation called Defend the Guard. Um,

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and, uh, there I've had a tremendous

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amount of outreach about that. Um, it

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would require the governor to assess

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whether or not uh the orders that are

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coming to the National Guard, the

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federal orders that are coming to the

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National Guard are legal. And if they

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are not, it would require the governor

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to prevent the guard from being

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deployed. So, I've just sent something

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out with my assessment about kind of the

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legal the technicality of that and

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whether or not I think it's legal.

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um or doable or effective. Um I I do

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think that Congress should be doing a

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much better job in terms of deal in in

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this and uh this is this administration

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is not the first time the last time that

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Congress declared war was in World War

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II. So um this is a problem where we are

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getting disconnected from the people in

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terms of deployments. So I understand

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the angst around this. Um I don't think

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that there is enough support to see

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defend the guard pass in Vermont.

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There may be enough to see it get it

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done get a hearing. So

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» is there any uh push for any sort of

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housing in the rural areas because I

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know a lot of younger people that still

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like to live in the rural areas but

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there is no everything's about the big

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cities. housing coming there blah blah. Is there any push to have some

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sort of affordable housing in in the

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rural parts of this area?

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>> So the question is is there any push to

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have um rural to have affordable housing

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in the rural parts of the state? There

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are young people that would like to be

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here that are having a hard time finding

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homes. So there are two things that I

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would note. Uh, one is the CHIP program

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that passed last year, which is for uh,

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it's a community program which would

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allow a developer to work with a

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community on financing the

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infrastructure that's necessary to build

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um, housing developments. So that could

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be sidewalks,

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water,

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connections to wastewater, um, electric

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infrastructure, parking lots, etc. Uh,

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so that passed last year. I feel hopeful

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about that as a tool for housing

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developers. in terms of rural housing.

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So I want to be very very clear about

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the language that is used in the

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legislature regularly.

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I hear in the legislature this phrase,

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we have decided that we want housing in

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downtowns and villages.

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Okay, Vermont. And so that is I I often

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question who is we um but that is uh how

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our land use policy is designed. So

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remember I started with act 181.

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looks to remove regulation act 250

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regulation from development in downtowns

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and villages that have infrastructure

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like water and wastewater. So to try and

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make it easier to build in those places.

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And the flip side is

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outside of that we have right now a road

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rule that is about to come into effect

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uh which will be applicable throughout

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the entire state and tier three which

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are sensitive natural areas those places

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will automatically

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be required to go through act 250. So

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there are small places where there's

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public infrastructure in downtowns and

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villages where we are removing

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regulation.

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Outside of that we are increasing

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regulation. So you'll have to decide if

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you think that's helpful or not.

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Um, I'm curious what you think of uh the

518
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tax reform bill that is being I'm not

519
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sure if it's been introduced or will be

520
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introduced into the House and Senate.

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>> It's only right here. Okay.

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>> Um, it is a wealth kind of a wealth.

523
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>> So, and the reason it's only right here

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is I don't think the governor would ever

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sign such a thing. I don't think the

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votes are there to override the

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governor. And so I have to think about

528
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do I want to spend time on a statement?

529
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Sometimes I say yes I do.

530
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Um or do I want to try and make sure

531
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other things are happening? So it's not

532
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it hasn't really reached here. Happy to

533
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follow back up and again you know maybe

534
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provide some information.

535
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>> Any other questions? Oh

536
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>> just back to the act 250. I just want to

537
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make sure you understand the

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implications for Jamaica. We do not have

539
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that municipal infrastructure. Correct.

540
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>> That's right. We do not.

541
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>> So, we're outside of that. We're in the

542
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like more regulation, not less. So, this

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really affects us.

544
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:10,720
>> That's right.

545
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,799
>> In a very specific way. Okay. Thanks for

546
00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:13,279
the question.

547
00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:14,799
>> That's right. And I think folks would

548
00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:18,000
say Jamaica is a town that floods a lot.

549
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,919
that is that the town is very

550
00:26:19,919 --> 00:26:22,240
environmentally sensitive and we want to

551
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,080
make sure that anything that's built

552
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,760
there is built to last and that you have

553
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,679
water and waste water. That would be the

554
00:26:29,679 --> 00:26:32,640
defense of that. But yes, I think you're

555
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:33,520
absolutely correct.

556
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:34,880
>> Thank you.

557
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,240
>> Other questions for Laura

558
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,480
>> have a question. I live directly on two

559
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,360
rivers and I was just curious whether

560
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:47,440
anybody is gonna keep dredging that uh

561
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,520
ball mountain brook past a bridge on

562
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,760
Depot Street because it directly affects

563
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,600
all the people that live below it. So,

564
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,679
it's been dipped into beautifully by

565
00:26:55,679 --> 00:26:57,840
Hunter right up to that bridge and then

566
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,360
after that it's it's just a flat full of

567
00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:04,400
rubble thing that's going to just flood

568
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,080
as soon as that rush of water comes

569
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,919
down. There's no place except for on

570
00:27:07,919 --> 00:27:10,320
everybody's land for it to do.

571
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,760
>> Have you seen any judging here?

572
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,039
>> Yeah, we did. That's more of a question

573
00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:14,159
for the select board though because

574
00:27:14,159 --> 00:27:15,919
they're the ones who would handle that.

575
00:27:15,919 --> 00:27:17,279
>> That's not a state thing. That's that's

576
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:18,799
a that's a local thing that we work with

577
00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:20,159
we've worked with FEMA on.

578
00:27:20,159 --> 00:27:21,200
>> Okay. Sorry.

579
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,400
>> So,

580
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,120
>> okay.

581
00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:25,039
>> Yeah. Good question though.

582
00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:26,640
>> Thank you everybody. Thank you for the

583
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:36,149
time.

584
00:27:36,159 --> 00:27:37,200
All right.

585
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,799
>> Oh, and just really quickly, there's

586
00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:40,240
still some seats in the front.

587
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,520
>> Yeah, guys, you want to move up? There's

588
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:42,880
some seats up here. Particularly

589
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,559
>> comfy cushion seats in front.

590
00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:45,760
>> Want to hide in the back? That's fine,

591
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:46,960
too.

592
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,039
>> Seats up there.

593
00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:52,000
>> Yes, there's like

594
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,399
Erica Bowman's going to our Larrett of

595
00:27:54,399 --> 00:27:56,320
Jamaica is going to be reading a poem,

596
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,549
Knitting in the Round.

597
00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:01,679
Hello.

598
00:28:01,679 --> 00:28:03,919
>> Thank you.

599
00:28:03,919 --> 00:28:06,640
>> Hi everybody.

600
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,080
I started as I do every so often

601
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,320
knitting again.

602
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,120
And um it's like I can't believe I

603
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:16,480
didn't bring it with me, but I I would

604
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,000
have loved to have shown you that the

605
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,240
current thing I'm knitting is a a hat

606
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,720
which is on a circular needle which

607
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,799
inspired the thinking about knitting and

608
00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:29,760
all of the many ways that

609
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,840
um you can look at it in any way. It

610
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,159
inspired this poem. It's called Knitting

611
00:28:34,159 --> 00:28:37,510
in the Round.

612
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,480
I was delighted to see my friend in his

613
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,760
handk knit sweater vest with the

614
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,720
slightly crooked neck at candidates

615
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,279
night. It had an intricate design and

616
00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:51,679
vaguely puffy sleeves which made him

617
00:28:51,679 --> 00:28:54,399
look gallant like a prince or a knight

618
00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:57,120
from another time. And he wore it with

619
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,159
an easy assurance without contention or

620
00:29:00,159 --> 00:29:02,000
self-consciousness.

621
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,520
After all, it was made by his daughter,

622
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,240
which was all the more sweet. It takes

623
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,960
an awfully long time to knit a sweater

624
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,960
vest.

625
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,000
Earlier at the stitching ditch at River

626
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,760
and Ry,

627
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,799
I met a new friend who gave us pointers

628
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:22,960
while we cast on the wool for our new

629
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,159
red hats. She told us that it was men

630
00:29:26,159 --> 00:29:28,559
who had originally invented knitting

631
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:32,320
back in Egypt or maybe Mesopotamia.

632
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,880
Admittedly, I thought to myself, well,

633
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,320
they got the credit at least.

634
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,320
But sure enough, beside me, there was a

635
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,480
tall, handsome man knitting still, as if

636
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,960
the ark of the centuries had had no

637
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,080
impact. or perhaps that we had already

638
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,799
come full orbit once again where men

639
00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:54,399
could be men just sitting and knitting

640
00:29:54,399 --> 00:29:57,760
in circles of friends. Either way, he

641
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,840
would soon be dawning a new sweater vest

642
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,679
himself, or so I hoped.

643
00:30:03,679 --> 00:30:05,760
Over at the spinnery in Putney, where I

644
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,159
had procured the red yarn, the air is

645
00:30:08,159 --> 00:30:10,640
perpetually thick and stinky of lenoline

646
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,600
and pasture. Spinners work in small

647
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,480
batches with wool acquired from local

648
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,080
farmers on large spiky formidable

649
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,520
machines. And despite the finished skes

650
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,480
arranged by color and gauge and the

651
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,480
sweaters that demonstrate the patterns

652
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,200
they've made, this place feels more

653
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,679
factory than a showroom. a modern-day

654
00:30:33,679 --> 00:30:36,960
wool and mill, a vestage of the once

655
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,039
booming textile industry that

656
00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:41,279
encompassed this state and even our own

657
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:43,120
little town.

658
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,360
And it seems amazing that it wasn't even

659
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,399
that long ago that these treefilled

660
00:30:48,399 --> 00:30:51,279
hills were cleared for pasture to feed

661
00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:53,360
the marino sheep.

662
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,080
My neighbor, 100 years old and

663
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,000
possessing a longer range view than

664
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,799
most, once showed me a photograph of my

665
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:03,600
own wooded cops, that of course had once

666
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,440
been his.

667
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,760
From the old stage coach in to my house

668
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,440
on the hill was near a tree. They say

669
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,600
that in the 1830s there were more sheep

670
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,840
than people, and the hills were clipped

671
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,120
as close as scalps. But the stone walls

672
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,520
that stitch across the landscape became

673
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,760
boundaries and monuments of great

674
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,559
importance, regarded by haywards and

675
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:29,200
fence viewers and surveyors.

676
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,039
And the forests we now praise as ancient

677
00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:35,760
are actually adolescent

678
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,559
fortuitous regrowth. A quiet apology to

679
00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:41,360
the woodlands of Yore. I think about

680
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,080
this while I count my stitches, circling

681
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,080
around and around and around.

682
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,840
Is this cycle like a cyclone? I wonder.

683
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,320
Or is it a patient curvaceious

684
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,519
architecture built from a single stitch?

685
00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:00,559
Loop pulled through loop pulled through

686
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:02,240
loop.

687
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,799
I guess it depends on your perspective,

688
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:06,799
on your own position in the fabric of

689
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:08,559
time.

690
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:12,080
Soon enough, I look up from my knitting

691
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,120
and gaze around this very room and

692
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,240
think, "Here we are again."

693
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,480
I lament at the passing of yet another

694
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,640
year,

695
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,960
but then I pick up my yarn and continue

696
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:37,590
my round.

697
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,600
Thank you, Erica. Uh, we're going to go

698
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,240
on to article one to elect a moderator

699
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,240
for a term of one year. Do I hear any

700
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,519
nominations?

701
00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:47,679
>> I nominate Tom Tolbert.

702
00:32:47,679 --> 00:32:49,279
>> Tom Tolbert has been nominated for

703
00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:51,440
moderator. Do I hear any other

704
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,630
nominations?

705
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,039
» Other nominations? Hearing none, I'm

706
00:32:57,039 --> 00:32:59,039
closing nominations. Uh, can I have the

707
00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:01,519
clerk give one vote? I can't do that.

708
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:03,039
Sarah, would you would someone give one

709
00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:04,799
vote for the for the for the POS for Tom

710
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:06,720
Tolbert? Sarah Whiswall gave one vote

711
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,200
for Tom Tolbert and Tom Tolbert's

712
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,960
elected moderator. Thank you folks for

713
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,399
having your trust in me for another

714
00:33:12,399 --> 00:33:13,200
year.

715
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,039
>> Who was the second?

716
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:15,919
>> Um Patrick

717
00:33:15,919 --> 00:33:18,960
>> Patrick was second. Yes. Sorry.

718
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,559
Uh moving on then to art. Oh, first

719
00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:22,320
thing I want couple of thanks for all

720
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,960
coming on on this cold morning. Um

721
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,679
again, my role here is to facilitate the

722
00:33:27,679 --> 00:33:30,080
will of the body, the voters of Jamaica.

723
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,840
Um,

724
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,159
this is your meeting and I'm here to

725
00:33:34,159 --> 00:33:37,679
facilitate your wants and needs. Um,

726
00:33:37,679 --> 00:33:39,360
once an article has been moved and

727
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,960
seconded, we can then have a discussion

728
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,799
about it. I'm asking that please keep

729
00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:44,320
those discussions to the article at

730
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,240
hand. We we'll have time to talk about

731
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,440
other things at the end of the meeting

732
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,799
for open uh just for other things. Um,

733
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:52,880
when speaking before speaking, stand up

734
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,720
and please state your name very clearly

735
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,519
so we know who's speaking. Um each

736
00:33:57,519 --> 00:33:59,679
person in the room per article will get

737
00:33:59,679 --> 00:34:02,480
one chance to speak and then every once

738
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,240
everyone else has had their opportunity,

739
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,320
you can have a second chance to speak.

740
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,520
Um please

741
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,440
try to be civil to each other. We're all

742
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:12,639
neighbors here. We want to make sure we

743
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:14,079
want to be kind to each other. When

744
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:16,159
speaking, you're addressing me. You're

745
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:17,839
addressing the moderator. Uh there are

746
00:34:17,839 --> 00:34:19,679
not to be any side conversations and

747
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:21,200
members of the body are not to directly

748
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,560
respond to each other. Um,

749
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,800
we're only allowed to vote on articles.

750
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,000
You're I'm sorry. You're only allowed to

751
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,440
vote on articles if you're a registered

752
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,200
voter in the town of Jamaica. If you

753
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,960
haven't picked up your paper ballots,

754
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,639
please go see Sarah and Heather and do

755
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:37,119
that. Um,

756
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:39,679
all votes will be will be will start off

757
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:42,079
as being voice votes from the floor. If

758
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:43,679
it's unclear if an article passes, then

759
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:47,040
we'll go to a uh hand vote. If that vote

760
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,960
isn't definitive, then we'll go to a

761
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,520
paper ballot vote. At any time, seven

762
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,599
members of the body can request a paper

763
00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:55,919
ballot vote. Uh when we're doing the

764
00:34:55,919 --> 00:34:57,839
paper ballots, I want everyone to come

765
00:34:57,839 --> 00:34:59,040
through the center, come up to the

766
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,560
ballot box, which is at the front here,

767
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,040
and then exit towards the sides. Please,

768
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,280
of course, only vote once. Um if someone

769
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,520
needs help depositing their ballot,

770
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,880
please let me know and I can have a

771
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,119
Justice of the Peace or Rob Willis uh

772
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:12,480
constable come and bring the ballot up

773
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,160
for them. You please don't bring someone

774
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,599
else's ballot up. Um, and lastly, um,

775
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:19,119
please let's everyone silence their cell

776
00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:21,200
phones. Uh, we don't want any phones

777
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,560
going off during our discussions and

778
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,880
such. And lastly, the bathrooms are in

779
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,400
the back for people who don't know that.

780
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,079
So, thank you for all coming today. It

781
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:30,480
was a cold morning. So, moving along to

782
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,000
article two to review the town report.

783
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:39,349
Do I have a motion?

784
00:35:39,359 --> 00:35:41,040
» Olivia.

785
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,230
Second.

786
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:47,040
» Second. Second, Andy Coin.

787
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,920
>> Thank you. Uh, any discussion on the the

788
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:55,349
town report?

789
00:35:55,359 --> 00:35:56,079
» You want to call the motion?

790
00:35:56,079 --> 00:35:56,720
>> Call the vote.

791
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:57,760
>> Okay, I'm going to call the vote.

792
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:58,800
Hearing none, we're going to call the

793
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,920
vote. All in favor of uh accepting the

794
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,079
town report, say I.

795
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:05,040
>> I.

796
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,800
>> Against.

797
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,400
Motion passes. Article passes.

798
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,079
On to article three to elect the

799
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:15,280
following officers as required by law.

800
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,800
Uh

801
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,800
first position is selectman for the term

802
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,040
of three years.

803
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,760
That position is currently held um

804
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,359
>> by I think it was who was that held by?

805
00:36:27,359 --> 00:36:29,280
That was held by Andy Coin. So do I have

806
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,560
any nominations for selectman of for one

807
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,320
year for three years? I'm sorry.

808
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,079
>> I nominate Robert Brooks.

809
00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:37,200
>> Robert Brooks has been nominated by

810
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,960
Karen Amaden. Do a second.

811
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:41,920
>> Terry second.

812
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,040
>> Terry Utel second.

813
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,839
Any other nominations?

814
00:36:47,839 --> 00:36:48,880
>> Hearing none. I'm going to close

815
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,040
nominations. All in favor?

816
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,560
>> Oh, sorry.

817
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,240
>> Can the people stand up when they're

818
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:55,200
nominated?

819
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,119
>> Yeah, if you want to. That's Robert

820
00:36:57,119 --> 00:36:57,680
Brooks.

821
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:58,640
>> I'm Robert.

822
00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:59,920
>> Hi, everybody.

823
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:01,599
>> Robert was appointed select board uh

824
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:03,760
what about a month and a half ago?

825
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,760
>> Yeah. So, therefore, so all in favor of

826
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,440
Robert Brooks. I

827
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,480
>> Robert passes. Robert Robert gets the three-year position of

828
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:13,599
selectment. Thank you, Robert.

829
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:13,920
>> Thank you.

830
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,079
>> U next position is select select person

831
00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:19,119
for term of one year. This position is

832
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:22,960
currently held by um I think it's by

833
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,760
Kate Olman.

834
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,240
Do I hear any nominations for uh select

835
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:29,599
person for the term of one year?

836
00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:32,720
>> I nominate Kate.

837
00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:34,800
>> Who seconded? I'm sorry.

838
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,640
>> CJ seconded. Any other nominations?

839
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,640
Hearing none. I'm closing nominations.

840
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,960
Um, all in favor?

841
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,160
>> I.

842
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,079
>> Kate Omen. Thank you. Co Kate for the

843
00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:48,160
select person of one year. Third

844
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,760
position is a select person for the term

845
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,079
of one year.

846
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:54,079
This position was held by Christina

847
00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:57,040
Robinson who is resigned. Um, do I hear

848
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,480
any nominations for this position

849
00:37:58,480 --> 00:37:59,440
>> and and was filled

850
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:00,800
>> and was filled by um

851
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,440
>> Jason C last week. So, do I have any

852
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,520
nominations for uh position of select

853
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:08,640
person for one year?

854
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,040
>> Chrissy made it.

855
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,480
>> Chissy,

856
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,119
>> you you nominate Jason. Okay.

857
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:18,880
>> Thank you. Any other nominations?

858
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,760
Hearing none. Uh all in favor of Jason C

859
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,200
getting the select person for a term of

860
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,160
one year.

861
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,079
>> I

862
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:28,400
>> Congratulations, Jason.

863
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,320
Uh next position is for the listister of

864
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,560
a term of three years. This position is

865
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,760
currently held by Pat Melman's.

866
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,520
Any nominations?

867
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,280
>> Pat Melman's.

868
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,800
>> Nominate Pat Melman.

869
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,349
>> Karen AMD nominates Pat Melman's.

870
00:38:45,359 --> 00:38:49,349
» Any other nominations?

871
00:38:49,359 --> 00:38:51,680
Hearing none. Uh all in favor of Pat

872
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,119
Melman's for the listister for the term

873
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:54,720
of three years. I

874
00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:57,680
>> I

875
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,680
>> next is for the constable for the term

876
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,520
first constable for the term of one year

877
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,280
currently held by Rob Willis.

878
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,960
>> Do I hear any nominations for constible

879
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,560
of one year or first constable for the

880
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,079
term of one year?

881
00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:12,720
>> I'll second.

882
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:15,280
>> Rob Willis has been nominated. Any other

883
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,839
nominations?

884
00:39:17,839 --> 00:39:19,760
Hearing none. All in favor of Rob Willis

885
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,520
for the con for the term for the first

886
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,560
constable for the term of one year. I

887
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,520
>> thank you. Uh for the term for the

888
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,960
second constable for the term of one

889
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,760
year currently held by Ben Williams.

890
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,079
You don't hear no nominations

891
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:36,000
>> for second constable for the term of one

892
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:36,560
year.

893
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,280
>> Ben Williams.

894
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,800
declines.

895
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,480
>> Yep. Okay.

896
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,520
>> Yep.

897
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,430
>> Any other nominations?

898
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:53,589
» Anybody interested?

899
00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:54,720
Anybody?

900
00:39:54,720 --> 00:40:00,630
>> I'll nominate Erica Bowman.

901
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,599
» Erica respectfully declines.

902
00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:07,190
>> Um,

903
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,320
» anybody?

904
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:09,440
>> It's not a big job.

905
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:10,320
>> Yeah.

906
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,200
>> Clara, did you have

907
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,599
>> Could the person explain the job?

908
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:17,520
>> Basically, yeah. I mean, Rob, you want

909
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:18,560
to explain that because you're the first

910
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,160
constable. Um pretty much it's we become

911
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,079
uh glorified dog catchers. So

912
00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:28,079
when I leave town then the second

913
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:29,839
constable fills in. So if you get if

914
00:40:29,839 --> 00:40:31,680
there's the state police call or someone

915
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,359
calls about an animal that's been

916
00:40:33,359 --> 00:40:35,520
missing or found on the road then

917
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,520
sometimes you need to go there and pick

918
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,040
the animal up and go to the humane

919
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,520
society with the animal or try to use

920
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,760
the list and um bring the dog back to

921
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:44,960
its owner.

922
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,240
>> So it's it's pretty pretty easy.

923
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:48,960
Yes, sir.

924
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,640
>> Andrew Schmidt.

925
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,560
has been nominated for

926
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:53,839
second constable.

927
00:40:53,839 --> 00:40:56,000
>> I second.

928
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,400
>> Any other nominations?

929
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,400
>> All in favor of Andrew Schmidt being

930
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,640
elected second constable for one year.

931
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:03,920
>> I

932
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,359
>> Thank you, Andy.

933
00:41:05,359 --> 00:41:08,480
>> Thank you. Um,

934
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,400
next position is trustee of public funds

935
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,880
for the term of one year

936
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,319
currently held by Rob Willis.

937
00:41:16,319 --> 00:41:19,520
Do I hear any nominations

938
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,000
for public trustee of public funds for

939
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,280
the term of one year?

940
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,800
>> I'll nominate Rob Willis.

941
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,359
>> Rob Willis has been nominated.

942
00:41:27,359 --> 00:41:30,160
>> Any other Any other nominations?

943
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,440
>> You need a second.

944
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:32,240
>> You had a second.

945
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:33,280
>> I had a second back there.

946
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:33,680
>> Okay.

947
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:34,960
>> Y

948
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,680
>> hearing none. All in favor of Rob Willis

949
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,440
being elected trustee of public funds

950
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,920
for the term of one year. I

951
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,240
>> agent to deed land for the term of one

952
00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:48,480
year

953
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,880
currently held by um Andy Coin.

954
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,640
>> You want to hear any nominations for the

955
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,319
agent to deed land for the term of one

956
00:41:56,319 --> 00:41:58,079
year.

957
00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:00,160
>> I'll nominate Andy Coin. Andy, are you

958
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,119
going to be around because you'd

959
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:02,480
actually have to sign some deeds this

960
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,560
year.

961
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,520
>> Andy Coin has been nominated.

962
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:08,000
>> Hi.

963
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,079
>> Do I hear any of the sec nominations?

964
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:12,640
Second. Chris, do I hear any other

965
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,880
nominations for the for the agent of to

966
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,190
deed land for the term of one year?

967
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,680
All in favor of Andy being elected?

968
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:22,960
>> I.

969
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,119
>> Thank you, Andy.

970
00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:26,720
>> We're cruising through these. Library

971
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:29,040
trustee for the two for two years of a

972
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,079
five-year term. Um,

973
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:36,720
currently held by Marylu Lamar Dawi.

974
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:40,720
Um, do I hear any nominations for uh,

975
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:42,720
library trustee term of two out of two

976
00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:44,319
years out of a three-year term?

977
00:42:44,319 --> 00:42:46,720
>> I nominate Siobhan Mcder.

978
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:49,599
>> Siobhan McDerman has been nominated.

979
00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:54,470
>> Okay. Any other nominations?

980
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,480
Hearing none. All in favor of Siobhan

981
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,880
being elected uh, library trustee for

982
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,720
the term of two years of a of a 5-year

983
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:01,760
term.

984
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:02,480
>> I

985
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,680
>> Okay, she's been elected. I also um and

986
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,280
it's my I will take responsibility for

987
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,040
this. There is another library position

988
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,440
open but it was not warned properly. So

989
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,200
if you are interested being a library

990
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,000
trustee talk to either Meline or the

991
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,839
board and you can be appointed to that

992
00:43:17,839 --> 00:43:19,920
position. So unfortunately it's not

993
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,000
being worn so we can't vote on it today.

994
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,240
I apologize for that. Um

995
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:28,640
article four to see what sum of money

996
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,480
the voters will vote to pay the town's

997
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,400
running expenses and how it will be

998
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,960
collected. Do we hear a motion?

999
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:41,270
Bonnie

1000
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,280
motion that we spend a total of

1001
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:52,950
2,221,138.13

1002
00:43:52,960 --> 00:44:02,870
of which 1,64,873.17

1003
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,000
will be raised by taxation

1004
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,119
for running expenses of the town. And

1005
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:12,720
this along with the anticipated revenue

1006
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:19,990
of $616,264.96

1007
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,160
equaling total budget of the

1008
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:29,829
$2,221,138.13

1009
00:44:29,839 --> 00:44:33,040
and payment will be due on or before

1010
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,319
October 1st, 2026

1011
00:44:36,319 --> 00:44:38,880
and all unpaid taxes will become

1012
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:44,240
delinquent on October 2nd, 2026 with an

1013
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:48,720
8 added 8% penalty plus starting

1014
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:52,960
December 1st, 2026, interest at the rate

1015
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:58,319
of 1% will be added until paid in full.

1016
00:44:58,319 --> 00:45:00,960
>> Do I hear a second?

1017
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,119
>> Greg Jolly second.

1018
00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:06,560
>> Does anyone want to discuss this?

1019
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,990
>> Yeah. What was that?

1020
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,119
numbers

1021
00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:12,960
>> those numbers were the numbers that were

1022
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,119
uh proposed in the town report and the

1023
00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:15,760
budget

1024
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,680
>> Patty the budget's actually in the

1025
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:18,800
report right

1026
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,240
>> if you have yeah if you have any

1027
00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:21,119
questions

1028
00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:21,760
>> okay

1029
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,950
>> y%

1030
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,319
fee

1031
00:45:26,319 --> 00:45:27,440
>> the state

1032
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,720
>> that's a state fee we don't have any

1033
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:29,119
control

1034
00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:30,319
>> that's by statute

1035
00:45:30,319 --> 00:45:32,960
>> my name is I have a question is there

1036
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,240
accountants hired to do the the validity

1037
00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:38,160
of these numbers

1038
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:38,960
Yeah, there's

1039
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,240
>> sir Whiz the treasur.

1040
00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:42,640
>> What's the question? Is there a town

1041
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,720
that the town hires that would validate

1042
00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:45,760
the numbers?

1043
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,839
>> Uh, no. Myself and the select do the

1044
00:45:47,839 --> 00:45:48,160
budget.

1045
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,750
>> Well, there's a

1046
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,920
check after

1047
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:54,400
>> absolutely

1048
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,000
>> yes.

1049
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,910
>> We have an outside auditor.

1050
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:03,599
» They haven't checked it yet.

1051
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:05,280
>> Yes.

1052
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,670
Last fiscal year.

1053
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,599
Other other discussions, other comments,

1054
00:46:11,599 --> 00:46:14,950
anybody

1055
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:15,520
vote?

1056
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:16,560
>> Move the question.

1057
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,480
Thank you. All in

1058
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,520
favor?

1059
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,599
>> I against

1060
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:26,240
the budget passes.

1061
00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:28,319
Article five to see if the voters will

1062
00:46:28,319 --> 00:46:30,079
authorize the select to borrow money in

1063
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:32,720
anticipation of taxes.

1064
00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:36,160
Do I hear a motion?

1065
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,280
I'll make them up.

1066
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,160
>> Greg Jolly moves. Seconded.

1067
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,960
>> Second.

1068
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,800
Rob Willis. Any other comments on any

1069
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,359
other discussion on that point?

1070
00:46:47,359 --> 00:46:48,720
>> All in favor?

1071
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:51,839
>> I.

1072
00:46:51,839 --> 00:46:53,680
>> Article six. Shall the voters authorize

1073
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,240
the select board to spend unanticipated

1074
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:58,400
funds such as grants, gifts, or other

1075
00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:59,920
interests?

1076
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:02,720
Can I get a motion?

1077
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:04,240
>> So move.

1078
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:06,720
Dana West. Second,

1079
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:09,839
>> I have a question. How are those things

1080
00:47:09,839 --> 00:47:13,520
defined? Like, can you give any grant or

1081
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,880
is there some parameters? This just

1082
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,200
feels a little open-ended to me. I know

1083
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,440
I'm new here, but that's why I want to

1084
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,440
understand what it really means.

1085
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:24,800
>> You want to talk? You want to address

1086
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:25,520
it, Jessica?

1087
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,160
>> Yeah, Patty, you've asked this. The

1088
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,520
question has come up before. Um so you

1089
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,200
see that the language like is in

1090
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,040
quotation marks because it's actually

1091
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,720
comes from the statutes. Um if we don't

1092
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:41,040
we just if we don't follow the statute

1093
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,920
then we arguably don't we can't utilize

1094
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,119
the definitions that are there but it's

1095
00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:49,520
you know it's what you would expect if

1096
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,160
we can um we often do throughout the

1097
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,760
course of the year. There's some folks

1098
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,079
in the audience that also participate in

1099
00:47:56,079 --> 00:47:58,960
obtaining grants for us. If we don't do

1100
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,880
this at town meeting, we can't apply for

1101
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,240
those grants and spend the funds.

1102
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:03,760
Actually, we could probably apply for

1103
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,200
them, but but we wouldn't necessarily

1104
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,280
have clear statutory authority to spend

1105
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,160
them. Um, I think we were talking about

1106
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,640
the water study, for example. Um, there

1107
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,960
is a one remaining grant, you know,

1108
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:19,440
piece of money that we applied for last year or the year before, I can't

1109
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,680
remember now. And we we can spend that

1110
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:26,800
because we passed this as a town, this ordinance. Um,

1111
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,319
uh,

1112
00:48:28,319 --> 00:48:31,680
it I mean I can afterwards I can I I I I

1113
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,960
can send to you the statute.

1114
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:39,200
>> I like to approve my

1115
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,480
>> No, I mean

1116
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,200
>> I just didn't care. I'm just trying to

1117
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,280
>> Yeah. And and by the way, the select

1118
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,400
board takes these actions. So come to

1119
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,599
meetings, zoom in or come to meetings or

1120
00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:53,680
you know, you would see it as a as an

1121
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,079
issue. Typically, it would be on the

1122
00:48:56,079 --> 00:48:58,800
agenda. So, if you see, you know, um

1123
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,240
approval of a grant application, if you

1124
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:04,319
want to know what that's about, just

1125
00:49:04,319 --> 00:49:06,079
come to the meeting or zoom in.

1126
00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:07,599
>> Fantastic. Thank you,

1127
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:09,200
>> Jean. And then CJ,

1128
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:10,960
>> I agree with the statement that was just

1129
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,839
made. This is an open-ended

1130
00:49:13,839 --> 00:49:16,240
article number.

1131
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:19,280
And so I would like to suggest that the

1132
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,400
select board change this article from

1133
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,960
the open-ended statutory language and

1134
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,760
put in a list of priorities so that the

1135
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,720
public knows what it is the select board

1136
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:33,520
is thinking needs to be done.

1137
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,760
>> Okay. What you can do, you can ask to

1138
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,319
amend this, but this is this has to be

1139
00:49:38,319 --> 00:49:40,319
voted on as warned. We can make

1140
00:49:40,319 --> 00:49:42,480
amendments to the to the article that

1141
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:43,839
was warned, but we can't change the

1142
00:49:43,839 --> 00:49:47,829
article in this meeting.

1143
00:49:47,839 --> 00:49:48,880
Can I suggest?

1144
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,079
>> You could suggest You would have to

1145
00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:51,440
You'd have to suggest the list though

1146
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:52,559
that I mean you'd have to say

1147
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:55,760
>> I want to suggest priorities like that.

1148
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,040
>> So we're going to be voting. So we're

1149
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,400
going to So I need you to make the

1150
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,400
motion on the amendment. So you'll make

1151
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,319
a motion that you want to amend this

1152
00:50:02,319 --> 00:50:06,000
article and then the body can vote on

1153
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,520
that amendment if it's voted up or down.

1154
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,760
And if it's voted up then then it falls

1155
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,839
then we go back to voting on the actual

1156
00:50:11,839 --> 00:50:14,880
article with the the amended article.

1157
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,400
I amend this article so that in a way

1158
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,160
that the selective will list the

1159
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:21,920
priorities

1160
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,119
clarifying the unanticipated funds such

1161
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:29,839
as grants and or to be more specific.

1162
00:50:29,839 --> 00:50:32,480
>> Okay. Priorities. Okay. Did you get

1163
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,119
that, April?

1164
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:37,040
>> Thank you. Uh do I hear a second on that

1165
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,510
amendment?

1166
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,359
» I'll second it.

1167
00:50:43,359 --> 00:50:47,829
>> Can you read that? Reread that back.

1168
00:50:47,839 --> 00:50:51,760
» Um I she motioned to amend the article

1169
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,520
with a list

1170
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:59,670
>> of uses to clarify

1171
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,079
» I don't remember the rest clarify the

1172
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:04,880
priorities of the select board

1173
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,960
um

1174
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,559
using the unanticipated funds such as

1175
00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:11,359
grants, gifts, and interest.

1176
00:51:11,359 --> 00:51:14,000
So basically she's asking for a list the

1177
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,359
select board to come up with a list to

1178
00:51:15,359 --> 00:51:18,240
clarify what those things are.

1179
00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:19,599
>> Seconded. What's your name?

1180
00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:20,400
>> Michael.

1181
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,079
>> Mike Luen.

1182
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:24,079
>> Okay.

1183
00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:25,040
Discussion.

1184
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,839
>> Uh yeah on that. Um I'm the grant writer

1185
00:51:27,839 --> 00:51:30,640
for Grace Cottage. Um there are all

1186
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,839
kinds of uh there's money available from

1187
00:51:33,839 --> 00:51:36,559
state and federal agencies to take care

1188
00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:38,800
of a lot of infrastructure projects.

1189
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,720
There are things that only towns can

1190
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:43,200
apply for um including right now

1191
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,280
congressional appropriations.

1192
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,720
Um and um

1193
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:47,040
>> CJ,

1194
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:47,920
>> I don't want to cut off, but we're

1195
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,520
talking about the amendment here. You're

1196
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:50,640
>> getting

1197
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,119
>> And what concerns me about uh the

1198
00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:56,319
amendment is that um there may be

1199
00:51:56,319 --> 00:51:58,000
opportunities that you have to pass up

1200
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,520
because they're not listed in the

1201
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:00,160
priorities.

1202
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,240
>> Okay, makes sense. Okay, thank you.

1203
00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:03,520
Eric, did you have your hand up?

1204
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,200
>> Um that was the same thing. I was going

1205
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,200
to say it's unanticipated so you don't

1206
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,440
really know you're going to need it to.

1207
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:10,160
>> Thank you.

1208
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:11,920
>> I was just maybe I can make the

1209
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,000
suggestion that if it is a significant

1210
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,160
amount of money that we have a warning

1211
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,720
or a notice posted and that's all. And

1212
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:20,400
if someone wants to say something then

1213
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,160
they're warned or noted and then you

1214
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,000
don't have to amend anything. You just

1215
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,920
kind of got to put it somewhere so

1216
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,000
everyone knows about it before you do

1217
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:28,480
it.

1218
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:29,520
>> Thank you.

1219
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,920
>> So right now we put we put it on the

1220
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,319
agenda for the select board meetings. So

1221
00:52:34,319 --> 00:52:37,760
just there it's posted around post

1222
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:38,800
office and yeah

1223
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,640
>> so right now so we're going to be voting

1224
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,240
on the amendment

1225
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:45,359
>> to add a list of priorities from the

1226
00:52:45,359 --> 00:52:49,440
select board that will discuss the there

1227
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:50,800
will be a list of priorities to what the

1228
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,480
unsupported funds grants and gifts and

1229
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,119
interest are for. That's the motion

1230
00:52:55,119 --> 00:52:57,359
that's on the table is the amendment.

1231
00:52:57,359 --> 00:52:59,839
>> So obligation

1232
00:52:59,839 --> 00:53:02,640
>> would this obligate the selection board?

1233
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:03,760
Yes, that would obligate the select

1234
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,200
board to come up with that list. Yes.

1235
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,240
>> Would that list be would that list be

1236
00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:11,839
strict like they can't go past that?

1237
00:53:11,839 --> 00:53:13,200
>> That's correct. Yes, that's what I'm

1238
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,480
understanding from the from the from the amended article. Yes,

1239
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:16,960
>> Greg.

1240
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,480
>> Yeah, Greg.

1241
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:19,359
>> Jason.

1242
00:53:19,359 --> 00:53:20,559
>> Oh, yeah. Jason.

1243
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:22,960
>> Jason, I'm sorry. just as a as a

1244
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,520
possible alternative. It could be an

1245
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,119
amendment to say that any of these funds

1246
00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:31,520
collected are spent in a manner that's

1247
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,680
consistent with how they were given to

1248
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:34,160
the town.

1249
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,599
>> You could propose another amendment when

1250
00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:37,520
this is done if you'd like to do that.

1251
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,280
>> I'd like I'd like to add too. I mean, I

1252
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,040
me being the road commissioner, I I kind

1253
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,000
of um coordinate a lot of the grants

1254
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,760
that come to the state and and FEMA, and

1255
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,079
the key word in there is unanticipated.

1256
00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:54,000
Um we we have obviously our role is to

1257
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,240
maintain the roads as an example but we

1258
00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:58,640
can't specifically say we are going to

1259
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,359
apply it to this. I mean we we we see

1260
00:54:01,359 --> 00:54:03,599
needs we see grants and we connect the

1261
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:06,480
two. It's it's just very very hard to

1262
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,040
sit there and anticipate an unant

1263
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,640
anticipated

1264
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,400
funding.

1265
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,760
Any other discussion on the amendment?

1266
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,119
I'm going to call the question on the

1267
00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:18,640
amendment.

1268
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:23,920
All in favor of the amendment say I.

1269
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,720
>> Opposed.

1270
00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:29,040
>> The amendment fails.

1271
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,160
So back now to the original article six.

1272
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,920
Shall the voters authorize select board

1273
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,839
to spend unanticipated funds such as

1274
00:54:35,839 --> 00:54:39,440
grants, gift, and or interest? Do we

1275
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,599
have any more discussion on this? This

1276
00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:43,599
has already been it's already been okay.

1277
00:54:43,599 --> 00:54:46,960
Call in the question. All in favor? I.

1278
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,119
All against.

1279
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:51,520
Article passes.

1280
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,000
Article 7 to set the time for the

1281
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,599
opening of the next annual town meeting

1282
00:54:55,599 --> 00:54:57,440
to be held the first Tuesday in March

1283
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,359
2027.

1284
00:54:59,359 --> 00:55:01,119
Do you have a motion?

1285
00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:02,160
>> So move.

1286
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:03,920
>> So moved by Meline.

1287
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,119
>> Second.

1288
00:55:05,119 --> 00:55:07,040
>> Drew Hazelson.

1289
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,760
>> Um, what's the date on this? It's the

1290
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,280
4th next year, right? Do we know?

1291
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,480
>> The one thing I didn't write in the

1292
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:19,190
book.

1293
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,400
the second next year. Sorry, it moves

1294
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,000
the other direction. Okay. Um,

1295
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,599
>> yes, March.

1296
00:55:25,599 --> 00:55:27,760
>> So, March 2nd next year. Does I mean,

1297
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,040
we've talked about moving it to

1298
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,160
Saturdays. I know we moved it to

1299
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,839
Saturdays. It hasn't been I don't think

1300
00:55:31,839 --> 00:55:33,280
the turnout was any different. I think a

1301
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,319
lot of the same people here. Um, the

1302
00:55:36,319 --> 00:55:37,920
motion's on the table to have it on the

1303
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,920
second. Does anyone have any discussion

1304
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,599
about that? Want to talk about that?

1305
00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:43,359
>> Yes.

1306
00:55:43,359 --> 00:55:45,440
Time for the opening. Time in there.

1307
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,920
Does 10:00 work for people?

1308
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:48,880
>> Okay.

1309
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,720
>> Yep.

1310
00:55:50,720 --> 00:55:52,160
>> I'm just saying you might want to

1311
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,400
include that instead

1312
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,160
of the time.

1313
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:56,960
>> Sue,

1314
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,480
>> um Suski, what is the process in order

1315
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,200
to possibly have it changed to a

1316
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:04,880
different time? There are a lot of young

1317
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,799
families. I'm looking around and there's

1318
00:56:06,799 --> 00:56:09,280
younger people here now, but there are a

1319
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:10,720
lot of the younger generation that live

1320
00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:12,799
in town that are working today and they

1321
00:56:12,799 --> 00:56:16,160
would love to be involved in the the

1322
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,119
politics of Jamaica, but they can't. Um,

1323
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:21,359
and the pro I mean, it's not just this,

1324
00:56:21,359 --> 00:56:24,559
it's that the town clerk closing at 4 is

1325
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:26,319
also difficult than the post office

1326
00:56:26,319 --> 00:56:28,079
closing when it's at their time. So

1327
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:29,440
there's like there's a lot of that

1328
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,680
stuff, but what is the process we need

1329
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,280
to do to possibly get it on next year to

1330
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:35,839
change?

1331
00:56:35,839 --> 00:56:37,280
>> We select it right now. You're here

1332
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,040
right now. We can do it right now to say

1333
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,480
what time we want to do it for next

1334
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:40,799
year.

1335
00:56:40,799 --> 00:56:41,599
>> Yes.

1336
00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:44,319
>> Um like I said, we've we tried the pass

1337
00:56:44,319 --> 00:56:46,960
through on Saturdays and the turnout

1338
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,319
wasn't any different. And it was the

1339
00:56:48,319 --> 00:56:49,760
same complaints. I have kids in school.

1340
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,599
I have to work. Saturdays came around

1341
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:54,640
and and people didn't come. I I'm just

1342
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,160
saying from history. It was we did it a

1343
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,920
couple years at the town garage during

1344
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,319
CO and people didn't show up. So, but

1345
00:57:00,319 --> 00:57:02,880
I'm not saying either way, you know,

1346
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:08,549
that's it's your decision as the body.

1347
00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:10,160
» Some people have it in the evening. I

1348
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,079
know that some towns have had select

1349
00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:13,599
last night. Brooklyn and Vernon had

1350
00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:15,040
theirs last night. They do an evening

1351
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,599
meeting. Um Vernon's went till what

1352
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:20,799
12:15 last night. So, if you're

1353
00:57:20,799 --> 00:57:22,720
interested in that, that's that's up to

1354
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,280
you guys.

1355
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,440
So, the motion is on the table to do the

1356
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,240
meeting um

1357
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,440
the first Tuesday, March 2027 at 10 a.m.

1358
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,200
>> Anyone? I mean,

1359
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,040
>> question has been moved. All in favor of

1360
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,640
that time and date.

1361
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:39,839
>> I

1362
00:57:39,839 --> 00:57:42,079
>> opposed.

1363
00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:44,720
Motion passes.

1364
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,200
>> Article passes. Uh article 8 to transact

1365
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,040
any other business that may legally come

1366
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:53,760
before this meeting. Can I get a motion?

1367
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:57,440
>> John Began second

1368
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,559
>> CJ to talk about anything else in the

1369
00:58:00,559 --> 00:58:00,960
meeting?

1370
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,000
>> Open discussion.

1371
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,680
>> Open. So right now we're here to

1372
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:04,960
transact any of the business that may

1373
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,040
legally come before the board before the

1374
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,480
meeting. Does anyone have anything to

1375
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,160
talk about?

1376
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:11,040
>> Nelson.

1377
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,559
Coleman. I just have a couple

1378
00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:15,040
questions. One is about the deficit you

1379
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,680
had back a couple years ago that we sat

1380
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:18,960
on for a long time and then we were

1381
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,559
supposed to came up as an odd and was

1382
00:58:20,559 --> 00:58:22,319
supposed to move. It was like a million

1383
00:58:22,319 --> 00:58:24,000
dollars or something like that. Did FEMA

1384
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,000
money take care of that? So that has

1385
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,680
been erased or is that still sitting on

1386
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:28,799
the boards?

1387
00:58:28,799 --> 00:58:31,040
>> So do you mean the the flood fund

1388
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,240
deficit?

1389
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,200
>> So yeah, remember last year we voted um

1390
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:36,880
approximately a half a million dollars

1391
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,440
to be placed in that fund. You'll you'll

1392
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,240
see the change when when the audited

1393
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,079
financials come out because that's where

1394
00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:46,400
you see the ex, you know, the status of

1395
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:47,760
the current funds. Okay.

1396
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,119
>> Yes.

1397
00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:50,720
>> But yeah. Oh, Sarah's

1398
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,000
>> Sarah's got an answer here. Sarah,

1399
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:56,400
>> we areing $25,000 a year is my item 200

1400
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,200
for the FEMA repayment from Irene. So

1401
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:00,720
that's where you're going to see in the

1402
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:01,040
budget.

1403
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,400
>> So do you know where the status is?

1404
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,720
What's left on that million dollars or

1405
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:05,680
whatever it was?

1406
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,839
>> I can get it for you.

1407
00:59:07,839 --> 00:59:08,960
But we are working on it.

1408
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,040
>> Yes, we

1409
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,000
>> have been very You need to do this.

1410
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,200
We're trying.

1411
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:16,559
>> It's just It won't show up until we see

1412
00:59:16,559 --> 00:59:18,000
the auditors report.

1413
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:18,240
>> Correct.

1414
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:19,760
>> Okay. And then the other question, I'm

1415
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,280
sure it's it's just a maintenance thing,

1416
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,240
but a fee on the transfer station for

1417
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,160
95,000. Is there going to be a bunch of

1418
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,160
repairs taking place up there this year?

1419
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,559
>> Yes. Yes, I can answer that as as town

1420
00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:33,119
administrator. Um we are we have an RFP

1421
00:59:33,119 --> 00:59:35,520
out. Hunter has accepted it. Uh we will

1422
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,119
be doing we'll be pulling what pulling

1423
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:39,599
down the awnings and rebuilding

1424
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:40,640
basically regrading everything

1425
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,000
rebuilding everything and and building

1426
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,359
it back up. It's really in disrepair

1427
00:59:43,359 --> 00:59:45,359
right now. So that is going to start in

1428
00:59:45,359 --> 00:59:47,440
the spring.

1429
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:48,079
>> Tie.

1430
00:59:48,079 --> 00:59:50,079
>> Is this a good time to ask about that

1431
00:59:50,079 --> 00:59:52,000
dredging of the rest of the river?

1432
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,280
>> Yeah, you can talk. Yeah, you can ask

1433
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,440
that now.

1434
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,640
>> Yes, it is. Thank you.

1435
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,000
>> Anyone have any thoughts? I spoke

1436
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,720
personally with Hunter and he told me

1437
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,960
there was no access to that part of the

1438
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,599
river which I own it. So I will

1439
01:00:09,599 --> 01:00:11,440
>> where you saying downream

1440
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:12,720
>> on the other side of the bridge where

1441
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,960
the rocks are where the swimming hole is

1442
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,359
that there is a huge amount just like

1443
01:00:17,359 --> 01:00:19,280
happened is the whole mountain came down

1444
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,920
that river and deposited itself right

1445
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,520
where Jamaica started all the way

1446
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,359
through the town all the way down to

1447
01:00:25,359 --> 01:00:27,680
where the west river meets it. Right.

1448
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,680
That's right. And we were very great

1449
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:33,359
about dredging a large portion of it up

1450
01:00:33,359 --> 01:00:35,920
to the river on Depot Street. And it's a

1451
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,280
nice well-made thing after the river on

1452
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,720
Depot Street. It's flat and full of

1453
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,200
rubble that up to the up to the edge of

1454
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,240
everybody's lawns. So you have a ton of

1455
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:49,599
water that's going to come down in the

1456
01:00:49,599 --> 01:00:50,880
spring.

1457
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,799
It's going to hit all that stuff that

1458
01:00:52,799 --> 01:00:54,640
didn't get dredged. And it's going to

1459
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,839
spread out on a lot of our properties,

1460
01:00:57,839 --> 01:01:01,119
mine in particular, and uh, of course,

1461
01:01:01,119 --> 01:01:03,359
my neighbors and just anybody that's

1462
01:01:03,359 --> 01:01:05,839
down and experienced that flood and we

1463
01:01:05,839 --> 01:01:08,880
all had to remove our animals that time

1464
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,440
when the dam was having so much. I do

1465
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,440
not want to relive that. And I want to

1466
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,359
know if anybody had mentioned that.

1467
01:01:17,359 --> 01:01:19,520
>> Well, the dredging happened. It was a

1468
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,280
part of FEMA funding. Yeah, Greg can

1469
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:22,960
speak on that. I'm sorry. I have

1470
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:24,000
multiple roles

1471
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:28,240
>> that the debris removal FEMA dredging is

1472
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,720
a four-letter word in in FEMA terms. So,

1473
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:31,760
but anyway,

1474
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,720
>> so we we removed debris.

1475
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,200
>> So, we we actually were able to define

1476
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,520
and luckily uh we were able to define a

1477
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,839
project to remove that debris within the

1478
01:01:41,839 --> 01:01:44,880
village um because of infrastructure and

1479
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,200
whatnot, bridges and homes. Obviously,

1480
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,079
your homes are down there, too. Um, we

1481
01:01:50,079 --> 01:01:52,559
were not able to define a project to

1482
01:01:52,559 --> 01:01:55,280
remove the debris down lower. I'm not

1483
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,440
denying that it doesn't need to be done.

1484
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,559
Um, but it could be worked on. I mean,

1485
01:02:00,559 --> 01:02:02,400
it would be very, very, very challenging

1486
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,520
to get the funding for it. Um, this

1487
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,280
particular just that small section in

1488
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,119
the village was over a half a million

1489
01:02:09,119 --> 01:02:12,559
dollars. Um, and which was wonderful

1490
01:02:12,559 --> 01:02:16,160
that we were able to get that. Um, and

1491
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,480
not to say that we can't look again look

1492
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,079
for grants or things like that. I mean,

1493
01:02:20,079 --> 01:02:22,000
it would it's it's well beyond anything

1494
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,359
that we could do ourselves. Um, but we

1495
01:02:25,359 --> 01:02:26,880
>> we should be looking at things like that

1496
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:27,520
for sure.

1497
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:28,480
>> Yeah.

1498
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,720
>> Okay.

1499
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,319
>> And I can look into it too as as town

1500
01:02:32,319 --> 01:02:33,839
administrator. I can look at grants and

1501
01:02:33,839 --> 01:02:35,520
things to see if I can find anything.

1502
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:36,799
But again, it's going to be getting the

1503
01:02:36,799 --> 01:02:38,559
money to do it. We all we all

1504
01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:39,920
acknowledge that there's a need to do

1505
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,240
it. It's just trying to find the funds.

1506
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:43,520
The other thing I would just say one

1507
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,359
other thing which is that Scott Jensen

1508
01:02:45,359 --> 01:02:48,559
who's the person from the state who is

1509
01:02:48,559 --> 01:02:51,200
you've met him he he issues the um

1510
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,200
permits to access the river and make

1511
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,079
those changes. He he was I mean

1512
01:02:56,079 --> 01:02:58,079
obviously I'm concerned it was fight we

1513
01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:00,559
all you know the Meadows Road crew we

1514
01:03:00,559 --> 01:03:05,440
all we you know we were yeah um he felt

1515
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:10,559
by the at the conclusion of the $600,000

1516
01:03:10,559 --> 01:03:12,160
project that we were able to complete

1517
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,039
with with federal funds that that work

1518
01:03:15,039 --> 01:03:17,599
is going to improve our you know our

1519
01:03:17,599 --> 01:03:20,960
situation. um channels have already sort

1520
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,000
of naturally been created there and he

1521
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,079
felt that there would be continued

1522
01:03:26,079 --> 01:03:29,280
improvement behind your and and the hunt

1523
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,039
house and around you know basically

1524
01:03:31,039 --> 01:03:34,559
impacting all of us. No guarantees but

1525
01:03:34,559 --> 01:03:36,480
he definitely felt that that that

1526
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,760
project ameliated our situation. It

1527
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,680
doesn't mean it wouldn't be great to

1528
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,720
have another $200,000 to to do the rest

1529
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,240
of the work or a quarter of a million

1530
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,559
roughly to do the rest of the work.

1531
01:03:48,559 --> 01:03:50,319
>> I I can't imagine that that level

1532
01:03:50,319 --> 01:03:53,760
doesn't bring money like that that that

1533
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,160
they I can't believe that that Phil

1534
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:57,520
doesn't bring money.

1535
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,599
>> So, we can't sell it. But Greg,

1536
01:03:59,599 --> 01:04:02,000
>> but we I mean it did bring value. Um we

1537
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:03,119
were able to use it on our

1538
01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:04,720
>> We used it on our roads build up our

1539
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:05,119
roads.

1540
01:04:05,119 --> 01:04:06,880
>> We can't sell it. We we can only

1541
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,480
>> We can't offset the cost. cost him and

1542
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:09,839
it still would be a cost, but if we

1543
01:04:09,839 --> 01:04:13,280
could apply it and improve other areas,

1544
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:14,559
>> tiny, what I'll do is I'll follow up

1545
01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:16,240
with Scott Jensen about this and I'll

1546
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:17,599
talk to him because obviously

1547
01:04:17,599 --> 01:04:19,599
>> if they want access through my land all

1548
01:04:19,599 --> 01:04:20,400
day long,

1549
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,680
>> okay, so as as Jessica said, Scott

1550
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:25,760
Jensen said he believes that that what

1551
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:27,760
we've done will mitigate to some degree

1552
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,680
the flooding lower down on the river. I

1553
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,039
will I will follow up with him on that

1554
01:04:31,039 --> 01:04:33,039
and get back to you. Okay.

1555
01:04:33,039 --> 01:04:35,039
Hi, I'm Barbara Dalia on West Jamaica

1556
01:04:35,039 --> 01:04:37,680
Road and I just want to address you say

1557
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,599
we used it on the roads and I wanted to

1558
01:04:39,599 --> 01:04:44,710
thank you many times for

1559
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:45,599
so much.

1560
01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:47,680
>> Thank you to a lot of people our road

1561
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:49,599
crew. I mean hard to get through all

1562
01:04:49,599 --> 01:04:51,359
those things over the past few years.

1563
01:04:51,359 --> 01:04:52,319
>> Mary Mary

1564
01:04:52,319 --> 01:04:55,200
>> Yes. Um I have a question about the dump

1565
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,280
and the changing of how the dump was

1566
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,880
going to be done. I was told by two

1567
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,640
different people that changing the way

1568
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,359
it's done. So, is there something we can

1569
01:05:05,359 --> 01:05:07,440
talk about that the difference of price,

1570
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,280
difference in the bags, different?

1571
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:10,480
>> You talk about the bags, you talk about

1572
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:11,920
the actual construction.

1573
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,880
>> No, the bags and the cost of the bag.

1574
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,200
>> Can you repeat the question?

1575
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:18,079
>> Yes.

1576
01:05:18,079 --> 01:05:20,160
>> The question was regarding what changes

1577
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,559
are happening at the dunk regarding bags

1578
01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:25,280
and tokens and I'm going to defer to the

1579
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,039
select board on that. Kate Alman.

1580
01:05:27,039 --> 01:05:29,839
>> So, uh we have ordered tokens which will

1581
01:05:29,839 --> 01:05:32,240
be instead of bags. So, you don't have

1582
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,640
to use bags. You can use a cardboard

1583
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,799
box. You can use paper bags from the

1584
01:05:36,799 --> 01:05:40,160
grocery store. You can uh you don't So,

1585
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:41,760
we're not going to be selling bags

1586
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,920
anymore. We still have some left and we

1587
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:45,599
would hope that people would continue to

1588
01:05:45,599 --> 01:05:47,280
use them till till they're gone because

1589
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,440
they were expensive, but we have

1590
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,760
purchased tokens. We'll have green

1591
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,400
tokens which will correspond to the same

1592
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,200
size as the green bags and yellow

1593
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,839
tokens. Uh all of the tokens are from

1594
01:05:59,839 --> 01:06:02,319
recycled materials uh which will

1595
01:06:02,319 --> 01:06:04,240
correspond to the size of the yellow

1596
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,119
bags like 13 gallon and 30 gallon

1597
01:06:07,119 --> 01:06:12,079
roughly. And uh so uh we haven't set a

1598
01:06:12,079 --> 01:06:13,839
price yet.

1599
01:06:13,839 --> 01:06:16,240
We have to do that probably next month.

1600
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,400
>> Yeah. Watch watch the agenda for select

1601
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:19,520
board meetings if you want to

1602
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:20,640
participate in that.

1603
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,440
>> Eric, I'm sorry. What's your name?

1604
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:24,240
>> Betsy Thompson.

1605
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:25,920
>> Betsy Thomasson. She's she's next. And

1606
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,119
Erica, you're next.

1607
01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:32,799
Oh, regarding the transfer station, uh I

1608
01:06:32,799 --> 01:06:34,400
was there in a very cold day a couple of

1609
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,559
weeks ago and uh I was concerned about

1610
01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:41,359
Ernie's health up there in a cold, you

1611
01:06:41,359 --> 01:06:44,720
know, frigid environment is in in this

1612
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,359
um reconfiguration or whatever of the

1613
01:06:47,359 --> 01:06:50,640
transfer station, will there be any warm

1614
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,839
place or safe place for the attendant to

1615
01:06:53,839 --> 01:06:58,160
um to to stay for for 8 hours.

1616
01:06:58,160 --> 01:06:59,920
>> He had a heated shed.

1617
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:02,400
>> He has he has to heat in the shed

1618
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,079
>> in his his office.

1619
01:07:04,079 --> 01:07:09,119
>> You know, the um uh uh the the the used

1620
01:07:09,119 --> 01:07:12,720
exchange house is larger than Ernie's

1621
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,319
shed,

1622
01:07:14,319 --> 01:07:16,160
you know. I mean, he you can turn around

1623
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,000
in it and

1624
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,319
>> I don't know. I just concerned about the

1625
01:07:20,319 --> 01:07:24,240
health and welfare of the people who

1626
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:25,520
>> whatever happened with that. We we had

1627
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,119
talked about increasing the size. Did

1628
01:07:27,119 --> 01:07:28,160
you guys Yeah.

1629
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,079
>> I think the the cost of other

1630
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:33,280
improvements, but um yeah, that's

1631
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,400
something to consider for sure.

1632
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:37,200
>> Erica,

1633
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:38,880
>> I just wanted to go back to the bags for

1634
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:42,880
a second. Could you bring a trash can

1635
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,520
without bags and dump it into the thing?

1636
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:45,839
>> Yes.

1637
01:07:45,839 --> 01:07:47,599
>> Oh, so it's it's actually potentially

1638
01:07:47,599 --> 01:07:51,839
could reduce the pl Is that the

1639
01:07:51,839 --> 01:07:54,240
idea? Yeah. and and at least one citizen

1640
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:58,390
already does that.

1641
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,359
» Um I have a couple of of things mostly

1642
01:08:01,359 --> 01:08:04,000
about all the activity that's been going

1643
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,440
on in Jamaica. Uh Jamaica Community Arts

1644
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,599
Council has been working really hard at

1645
01:08:09,599 --> 01:08:13,760
providing yoga in here and exercise and

1646
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,400
we'll be working on more

1647
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,600
activities in here. Uh there's the

1648
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:23,040
library does movies and all kinds of

1649
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,839
exciting things. Jamba is putting trails

1650
01:08:25,839 --> 01:08:29,199
into the uh Ball Mountain Dam area and

1651
01:08:29,199 --> 01:08:31,759
we're working on other trails.

1652
01:08:31,759 --> 01:08:34,560
Uh we have a calendar. Tom has a

1653
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:35,359
community calendar

1654
01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:36,799
>> on the calendar on the town website.

1655
01:08:36,799 --> 01:08:37,520
Yes.

1656
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,759
>> And and we're posting a lot of things on

1657
01:08:39,759 --> 01:08:42,640
the Jamaica Community Arts Council

1658
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,960
website, Facebook pages. It's on the

1659
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,920
Jamaica Facebook page. the Rossonville

1660
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,319
Schoolhouse. We have a committee that's

1661
01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:56,400
working on that um to try to gain access

1662
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,640
to have programs and things like that up

1663
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,239
there. We're going to have an open house

1664
01:09:00,239 --> 01:09:02,080
probably in May. You'll see things about

1665
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:06,000
that. The Jamaica Historical Foundation

1666
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,359
uh will be open from miday till mid

1667
01:09:09,359 --> 01:09:12,880
October. So, pop in and see us. People

1668
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,199
are donating photos. They're donating

1669
01:09:15,199 --> 01:09:18,480
memorabilia, articles, and things at a

1670
01:09:18,480 --> 01:09:19,920
couple times a week. We're getting

1671
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:23,279
things. It's really quite wonderful. Uh,

1672
01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:27,040
Jamaica Day is Saturday, August 15th.

1673
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,199
Uh, think about what you can put in the

1674
01:09:29,199 --> 01:09:31,920
parade or how you can help or just come

1675
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,520
and enjoy the day. Um, I know there's a

1676
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,040
lot of other things that I'm forgetting,

1677
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:40,400
but um, we've got a lot of exciting

1678
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,640
things happening. We have a lot of new

1679
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,600
young folks that are moving into Jamaica

1680
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,440
and this is sort of getting into the

1681
01:09:47,440 --> 01:09:49,920
whole education bit of it and I'm hoping

1682
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:51,839
that Drew will talk in just a second and

1683
01:09:51,839 --> 01:09:53,920
maybe Dana

1684
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,080
um

1685
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,760
>> we need to talk about the school and and

1686
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,280
what's happening which Drew will mention

1687
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,840
but what do we need for our community

1688
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,440
for the next 20 25 years and how do we

1689
01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:11,360
keep these young folks who have moved

1690
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,520
into town

1691
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:19,910
staying here and and what do they need?

1692
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:20,719
» Andy Coin,

1693
01:10:20,719 --> 01:10:23,520
>> may I go back to a couple of things? I

1694
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:24,800
>> You can go back. Yeah, go back to the

1695
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:25,360
dump.

1696
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,360
>> Am I going to be able to still use bags

1697
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:29,760
if it be my uh

1698
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:30,480
>> my choice?

1699
01:10:30,480 --> 01:10:31,760
>> There's no bait and switch here. Yes,

1700
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:32,960
you'll be able to use the bags until

1701
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:34,400
your bags are gone. That's

1702
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,440
>> like uh for demo, you can use contractor

1703
01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:39,199
bags. It's a whole different thing that

1704
01:10:39,199 --> 01:10:40,880
>> that's different. That's what tok that's

1705
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,280
that the other tokens which we already

1706
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:44,320
currently

1707
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:48,239
>> I understand that. Um so back to the

1708
01:10:48,239 --> 01:10:52,640
question about u the uh what was that

1709
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:57,110
called Greg the $600,000

1710
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,199
» debris removal.

1711
01:10:59,199 --> 01:11:02,159
I mean maybe Tom can uh comment on this

1712
01:11:02,159 --> 01:11:04,560
but I've seen some pretty high water hit

1713
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:08,000
that. I mean, not the highest, but it

1714
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,239
certainly seemed to handle it a lot

1715
01:11:10,239 --> 01:11:11,199
better,

1716
01:11:11,199 --> 01:11:12,880
>> especially on his part. I

1717
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:17,040
>> I rest much easier. I will say that the the the dredging or the taking of

1718
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,199
the debris out of of the brook near my

1719
01:11:19,199 --> 01:11:23,120
home is it's it's transformative. I

1720
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,360
mean, the river would always raise up

1721
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:28,159
close to the road when it when it was

1722
01:11:28,159 --> 01:11:30,159
flood stages and when the rain and such.

1723
01:11:30,159 --> 01:11:32,640
And since then, it hasn't it hasn't got

1724
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,400
it hasn't ever gotten higher. and it

1725
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,880
does seem to fan out better. I know it's

1726
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,600
very concerning, but it's much better

1727
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,159
than it did. And I just want to thank

1728
01:11:42,159 --> 01:11:44,880
Greg, our previous uh assistant town

1729
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,560
administrator and the board for really

1730
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:52,000
doing every single thing that the powers

1731
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,120
that be were asking asking them to do

1732
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:59,120
and getting that last funding back was

1733
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,440
sort of not really rolling the dice, but

1734
01:12:01,440 --> 01:12:03,600
it was a little nerve-wracking.

1735
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,840
But it it what we found is all better

1736
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:06,960
for

1737
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:07,440
>> Thank you.

1738
01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:09,760
>> A huge improvement.

1739
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:11,120
>> I just have a really quick question.

1740
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:12,320
>> Yes, CJ. That's fine.

1741
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,960
>> So, back to the to the tokens. Do you

1742
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:16,960
have a timing for us? Can you tell us

1743
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:18,400
the timing?

1744
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,320
>> They've been ordered and they said it

1745
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,560
only takes one to two weeks to get here.

1746
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,280
So, they should be here soon. Uh again,

1747
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:26,960
we are hoping that people will continue

1748
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:28,640
to use the bags because we don't want

1749
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:30,719
them just to sit there. um they do

1750
01:12:30,719 --> 01:12:33,199
degrade over time and and we spent money

1751
01:12:33,199 --> 01:12:35,199
on them, but yeah, it will be very soon

1752
01:12:35,199 --> 01:12:37,600
that you um I I'm thinking we'll have a

1753
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,360
grace period where you could use either.

1754
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,520
We haven't really decided for sure.

1755
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,760
>> And you buy them at the same place.

1756
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:44,480
>> Yes.

1757
01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:45,120
>> Okay.

1758
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:46,880
>> So, this is very soon.

1759
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:47,280
>> Yes.

1760
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:47,760
>> Okay.

1761
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,440
>> Very soon. And and again, we probably

1762
01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:51,440
have four four or five boxes of the

1763
01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:53,600
yellow bags left. It's not a ton. And I

1764
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:55,280
know Forest will come in for for West

1765
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,239
River provisions and buy 20 or 30 boxes.

1766
01:12:58,239 --> 01:13:00,800
And I think in a box is 40. So I mean in

1767
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:01,920
a couple of weeks we're going to be

1768
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:03,600
pretty much out of the yellow bags at

1769
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:04,719
the town office

1770
01:13:04,719 --> 01:13:06,080
>> and then at that point

1771
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:07,360
>> hopefully we'll start the transition

1772
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,440
then. That's my that's my goal as town

1773
01:13:09,440 --> 01:13:10,560
clerk.

1774
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:11,920
>> Yes.

1775
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:13,600
>> And I just wanted to carry on. You said

1776
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,080
you're not sure of the cost, meaning

1777
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,560
you're considering raising the price of

1778
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:19,520
each level.

1779
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,159
>> We have decided on the price.

1780
01:13:22,159 --> 01:13:24,159
>> Um I did also want to mention that

1781
01:13:24,159 --> 01:13:26,480
construction bags will not be allowed.

1782
01:13:26,480 --> 01:13:28,320
They don't work well in the in the

1783
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,120
compactor. So, you're not allowed to use

1784
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,840
construction bags in the reg for the

1785
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:35,600
regular household trash. They have to go

1786
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:36,640
into CN.

1787
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,560
>> Can Here's a question for you, though.

1788
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,320
Do you take if you bring it in a

1789
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,239
construction bag, can you just dump it

1790
01:13:42,239 --> 01:13:45,199
out and take the bag back?

1791
01:13:45,199 --> 01:13:48,719
>> Patty in the back.

1792
01:13:48,719 --> 01:13:50,560
>> Okay. Can we Can we stick to the dumping

1793
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:52,400
for now? As people winding this down,

1794
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:57,040
are we are the questions answered? Jean

1795
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,120
What date is the select? Did you have

1796
01:13:59,120 --> 01:13:59,840
any discussion?

1797
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:00,880
>> Oh, you did. I'm sorry. I didn't know.

1798
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:05,189
I'm sorry. Too much going.

1799
01:14:05,199 --> 01:14:07,679
» What date is the select board going to

1800
01:14:07,679 --> 01:14:11,040
list the topic of the bags and

1801
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:12,800
>> Watch out for the agenda. It's published

1802
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:16,950
every Thursday.

1803
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:18,800
The agenda is published on the website

1804
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:20,880
and at the at various locations around

1805
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,840
town every Thursday prior to the Monday

1806
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:25,920
select board meeting. So the agendas are

1807
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:27,360
online and they're also at the post

1808
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,440
office at West River Provisions and at

1809
01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:30,320
the town office.

1810
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,520
>> So it's not being

1811
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,199
>> the the the agendas for the meetings are

1812
01:14:35,199 --> 01:14:37,120
generally uh I receive those as town

1813
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:38,560
clerk on the Thursday before the

1814
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:43,600
meeting. So those Jessica creates those

1815
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,440
usually that week before the meeting.

1816
01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:47,840
Yeah, that's generally how it works. Oh,

1817
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:49,199
sorry, Patty. Let Patty, I'm sorry I cut

1818
01:14:49,199 --> 01:14:50,640
you off, Patty. Go ahead.

1819
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:54,560
>> I have lived uh before in a place that

1820
01:14:54,560 --> 01:15:00,080
has pay as you go dumping and recycling.

1821
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:04,000
And um I think it's factual that as you

1822
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,400
increase the price, you price out

1823
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:10,159
people's ability to use that service.

1824
01:15:10,159 --> 01:15:12,000
And I'm concerned about that, that

1825
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,640
people will not be able to afford to

1826
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,920
bring their garbage to the dump and dump

1827
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:21,520
the way we want them to. And so I I

1828
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,239
would love for us to look into some kind

1829
01:15:24,239 --> 01:15:28,719
of discount support grant program for

1830
01:15:28,719 --> 01:15:32,080
people who meet some criteria um to help

1831
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,040
support them in using this facility

1832
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,520
because um what happens when people

1833
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,600
can't afford to dump is they dump

1834
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:40,800
wherever they think they're not going to

1835
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,600
get caught dumping and it increases some

1836
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,159
of the cost for the community in the

1837
01:15:46,159 --> 01:15:49,440
form of garbage pickup and just

1838
01:15:49,440 --> 01:15:52,159
unsightliness and unwanted rodents and

1839
01:15:52,159 --> 01:15:55,360
so forth. So, I I would love to see us

1840
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,560
um find a way to support people who may

1841
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:03,360
be priced out of the new um structure.

1842
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,280
>> I second that.

1843
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:06,640
>> Thank you guys. Thanks for the comments.

1844
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,800
Um Chris, did you have something?

1845
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,760
>> Yes. I'd like to go back to uh what

1846
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,320
Karen was talking about just in

1847
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,440
relationship to Jamaica date. I'd like

1848
01:16:17,440 --> 01:16:21,120
to ask anybody in this hall if they

1849
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,400
would be part of our Jamaica Day

1850
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,199
preparations. Seems like there's like

1851
01:16:27,199 --> 01:16:30,080
just four of us. Four women are the only

1852
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,800
ones right now with the exception of

1853
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:36,800
Craig, Craig, Jolly, and that that seem

1854
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:40,239
to be doing any of the work.

1855
01:16:40,239 --> 01:16:42,320
So, I would love anybody who would like

1856
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,159
to get involved to get in touch with

1857
01:16:44,159 --> 01:16:47,440
Karen, please. And thank you, Kristen.

1858
01:16:47,440 --> 01:16:50,400
>> I have a question about the uh compost

1859
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:54,159
bins, please. Um you you ask us to

1860
01:16:54,159 --> 01:16:57,440
compost and I do because I can't do it

1861
01:16:57,440 --> 01:17:01,199
at home because of the bears and um but

1862
01:17:01,199 --> 01:17:04,719
we don't get to when it's I I I know

1863
01:17:04,719 --> 01:17:07,120
that they take it and that that they

1864
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,679
actually do compost. It's you get nice

1865
01:17:09,679 --> 01:17:14,480
dirt and why can't we go someplace to to

1866
01:17:14,480 --> 01:17:16,000
get some of that?

1867
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,199
>> Yeah. Uh Winters All the Waste uh down

1868
01:17:19,199 --> 01:17:21,679
in Brattleboro sells it and they have a

1869
01:17:21,679 --> 01:17:23,520
huge operation. They've done a whole lot

1870
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,000
of work on the composting and they do

1871
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:27,040
sell it down there.

1872
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:27,840
>> Oh, they do?

1873
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:28,400
>> Yes.

1874
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,080
>> Okay. Is it very expensive?

1875
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:31,679
>> I I don't actually know.

1876
01:17:31,679 --> 01:17:35,040
>> Okay. Um,

1877
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:36,880
>> Claire,

1878
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,520
>> this is I I understand it's not it's not

1879
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,679
a compost question, so I don't know if

1880
01:17:41,679 --> 01:17:43,520
anybody wants to hear because it looks

1881
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,000
like that's very popular. Um, I have a

1882
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,520
question for the board. Um, when the

1883
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:51,040
people, I don't know their names, but

1884
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,840
anyhow, um, come down street with the

1885
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,560
new poles all the way to the state park,

1886
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,719
what's your plan for traffic when it's

1887
01:17:58,719 --> 01:18:01,199
summertime? because I I was I was

1888
01:18:01,199 --> 01:18:02,800
speaking to one of the gentlemen that's

1889
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,040
in charge of it and he said he had

1890
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,280
nothing from the board that said that

1891
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:10,080
there was going to be campers and

1892
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:11,520
whatever. I said, you know, there's

1893
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,120
going to be a traffic problem. He said

1894
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:14,960
that won't work.

1895
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:18,960
>> Have you discussed this with them?

1896
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,520
>> I'm not sure because we do GMP comes to

1897
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,360
meetings

1898
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,520
though all the way down to the state,

1899
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:26,080
>> right?

1900
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:27,520
>> And they're going to do it this summer,

1901
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:31,360
>> right? So, at the same time, every

1902
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:32,960
camper that comes through, the big

1903
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:34,400
campers that come through are going to

1904
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,400
use the same road. And when I spoke to

1905
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,320
him about it and asked him how that's

1906
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:41,120
going to work, he said

1907
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,040
he had no idea.

1908
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:45,440
>> And this is this is

1909
01:18:45,440 --> 01:18:47,280
from Pennsylvania, right? Normally they

1910
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,520
come to the board, they tell us what

1911
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,840
their plan is, they say the dates and

1912
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,400
times. We work with them to publish

1913
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,040
those, particularly in the area that

1914
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,480
you're talking about, which is adjacent

1915
01:18:58,480 --> 01:19:01,199
to the park because some folks on the

1916
01:19:01,199 --> 01:19:04,000
other side of the existing bridge could

1917
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,480
get can get stranded. So they all have

1918
01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:08,960
to be notified, that group gets notified

1919
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:12,320
separately. And then in terms of any

1920
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:13,920
time that the road is going to be

1921
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,480
obstructed or partly obstructed, it's

1922
01:19:16,480 --> 01:19:18,719
not that the town itself does not

1923
01:19:18,719 --> 01:19:21,280
actually manage that traffic. GMP does,

1924
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:22,719
but they do tell us that they're going

1925
01:19:22,719 --> 01:19:27,120
to be going down to one lane, et

1926
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:28,080
isue in the past.

1927
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:29,440
>> We had the general meeting where they

1928
01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:31,520
said what the project was. They told us

1929
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:32,880
about the projects at the at the

1930
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:33,360
meeting,

1931
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:34,880
>> right? But then they also

1932
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,880
>> but we didn't get the specifics of it

1933
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,719
>> exactly when they're when they're

1934
01:19:38,719 --> 01:19:40,719
coming, what the hours are, the days,

1935
01:19:40,719 --> 01:19:43,760
and then they put up the flaggers, etc.

1936
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:45,520
So, I'm not sure. It might be helpful

1937
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:47,520
just to know who you spoke to cuz that's

1938
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:48,800
not consistent with what

1939
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:53,590
>> several several people

1940
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,760
that

1941
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,000
Yeah, that's the person that's in charge

1942
01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:59,920
from I think he's in Pennsylvania or

1943
01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:02,320
something. Anyhow, and when I mentioned

1944
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:05,199
that state park is very very busy in the

1945
01:20:05,199 --> 01:20:06,880
summer and there would be big campers

1946
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:08,640
going through, he said this is not going

1947
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,239
to work because we can't take things

1948
01:20:10,239 --> 01:20:12,880
down. So he asked me asked me if there

1949
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:14,800
was another way around and I said yes

1950
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,239
but you need to speak to the select

1951
01:20:16,239 --> 01:20:18,560
board. So maybe there needs to be you

1952
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:20,239
have the need to person that came to

1953
01:20:20,239 --> 01:20:20,800
you.

1954
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,199
>> I have his name. I can I can contact him

1955
01:20:23,199 --> 01:20:24,719
and find out. I'll get more information

1956
01:20:24,719 --> 01:20:26,000
from him. Thank you, Clara. Because

1957
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:27,520
yeah, because we we can figure that out

1958
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:27,840
then

1959
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,199
>> because it's going to go around

1960
01:20:31,199 --> 01:20:33,360
It's it's a tough turn though.

1961
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:34,880
>> People need to know where the traffic

1962
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:36,719
from the state park is going to come

1963
01:20:36,719 --> 01:20:38,000
from.

1964
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:42,880
>> I'm just saying it's something that

1965
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,040
>> Okay, I would look into that.

1966
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:49,830
>> It's concl

1967
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:53,679
» I'm sorry. Who? Oh, I'm sorry. John.

1968
01:20:53,679 --> 01:20:56,000
>> My name is John Began and I would like

1969
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,719
the town to consider supporting these

1970
01:20:58,719 --> 01:21:01,280
two resolutions.

1971
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,560
Um, voters of Jamaica, Vermont condemn

1972
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:08,800
the current activities of ICE operatives

1973
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,840
and call on the US Congress to defund

1974
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:16,080
and abolish the agency as it now exists.

1975
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,560
And the second one is the voters of

1976
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,640
Jamaica, Vermont

1977
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:24,320
condemn the war against Iran and call on

1978
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,679
Congress to invoke the War Powers Act

1979
01:21:27,679 --> 01:21:30,719
and that the president bring our troops

1980
01:21:30,719 --> 01:21:32,480
home now.

1981
01:21:32,480 --> 01:21:35,040
>> Unfortunately, it's not being warned

1982
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,360
>> as articles. We can't vote on those that

1983
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:39,520
are any any binding

1984
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,159
>> resolution. You have to warn articles

1985
01:21:42,159 --> 01:21:44,640
such as those beforehand. Isn't there a

1986
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,040
way to do that? We can official

1987
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:48,719
>> We can unofficially do it, but it's not

1988
01:21:48,719 --> 01:21:49,199
I mean

1989
01:21:49,199 --> 01:21:50,000
>> opinions.

1990
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:51,679
>> We can do an opinion that we we feel

1991
01:21:51,679 --> 01:21:53,679
that but it's not anything binding,

1992
01:21:53,679 --> 01:21:54,320
>> right?

1993
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,280
>> Because you need to read them out

1994
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:58,880
separately like we'd have because it's

1995
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,199
two separate articles.

1996
01:22:01,199 --> 01:22:03,199
>> I mean I I the

1997
01:22:03,199 --> 01:22:04,880
>> again it's just a consensus of the town

1998
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:06,320
that we agree with this. It's not

1999
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:07,520
something that's going to be binding or

2000
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:08,159
anything like that.

2001
01:22:08,159 --> 01:22:09,280
>> Right. Let's do it.

2002
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,000
>> Did you want to do it again and do the

2003
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:13,040
first one

2004
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,120
>> and then see if there's a second?

2005
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:15,520
>> Read.

2006
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,120
>> Yeah. Read the first one. Read the first

2007
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:18,239
one by itself. Yeah.

2008
01:22:18,239 --> 01:22:21,199
>> The voters of Jamaica, Vermont

2009
01:22:21,199 --> 01:22:23,280
current activities

2010
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,760
of ICE operatives and call on the US

2011
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,239
Congress to defund and abolish the

2012
01:22:28,239 --> 01:22:31,760
agency as it now exists.

2013
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:32,880
>> Second.

2014
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:33,920
>> Okay.

2015
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:34,719
Second.

2016
01:22:34,719 --> 01:22:37,120
>> Yep. Second. Sec. It's been seconded.

2017
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:38,639
>> Does the town

2018
01:22:38,639 --> 01:22:42,320
Want to all in favor of that?

2019
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,560
>> I

2020
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:45,199
against

2021
01:22:45,199 --> 01:22:46,639
>> no.

2022
01:22:46,639 --> 01:22:48,960
>> Couple of nays.

2023
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:49,920
>> Second.

2024
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,639
>> Then read the second one.

2025
01:22:52,639 --> 01:22:54,880
>> Voters of Jamaica

2026
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:58,400
condemn the war against Iran and call on

2027
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:01,679
Congress to invoke the War of Powers Act

2028
01:23:01,679 --> 01:23:04,880
and that the president bring our troops

2029
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:06,719
home.

2030
01:23:06,719 --> 01:23:08,880
I second.

2031
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:09,520
>> Second.

2032
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,400
>> Any discussion?

2033
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,360
>> Close the question. All in favor?

2034
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:16,960
>> All against?

2035
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:18,480
>> No.

2036
01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:20,320
>> Eyes have it.

2037
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:21,520
>> Okay. Thank you, John.

2038
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:22,560
>> Thank you.

2039
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:23,360
>> Heather.

2040
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,080
>> Um, any pictures to the state park that

2041
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:27,520
you brought up? There is a meeting

2042
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,920
tomorrow

2043
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:31,920
>> to discuss what's happening uh

2044
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,159
development plans for Pikes Falls,

2045
01:23:34,159 --> 01:23:35,040
>> Hamilton Falls.

2046
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:37,199
>> Hamilton's fall, excuse me. Thank you.

2047
01:23:37,199 --> 01:23:41,920
It's at 6 p.m. For some reason, it's in

2048
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:42,239
town.

2049
01:23:42,239 --> 01:23:44,480
>> It's really important. And Amos should

2050
01:23:44,480 --> 01:23:47,360
speak on that. Yeah,

2051
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:49,600
>> we've been in contact with the state and

2052
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:51,360
they have told us that they do not have

2053
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,679
a plan for

2054
01:23:53,679 --> 01:23:55,840
>> this meeting tomorrow night in town is

2055
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:57,679
about the long-term plan for the state

2056
01:23:57,679 --> 01:24:00,800
park not including Hamilton Falls. They

2057
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:02,239
say

2058
01:24:02,239 --> 01:24:06,480
>> they didn't first announce it as being

2059
01:24:06,480 --> 01:24:09,679
about Hamilton Falls and then later said

2060
01:24:09,679 --> 01:24:12,000
what you're saying?

2061
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,600
I can't keep track but I know um my wife

2062
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:18,880
Alana and also my sister-in-law Yan have

2063
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:21,520
been in touch with them and they have

2064
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,480
said more than once this is not about

2065
01:24:24,480 --> 01:24:26,239
policy or say anything about that they

2066
01:24:26,239 --> 01:24:28,239
don't have a plan about policy this is

2067
01:24:28,239 --> 01:24:32,229
about

2068
01:24:32,239 --> 01:24:35,120
» thank you there there is a notice in the

2069
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,400
front window the little box outside that

2070
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,760
describes the meeting time and location

2071
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:43,760
and a lot of us are car pooling. If

2072
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:46,239
anyone needs a ride, I'd be happy to

2073
01:24:46,239 --> 01:24:46,960
pick you up.

2074
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:49,440
>> Okay, thank you.

2075
01:24:49,440 --> 01:24:52,320
>> Any other items to bring up? Meline?

2076
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,480
>> Um, I just wanted to say a few things

2077
01:24:54,480 --> 01:24:57,040
for the library. I'm Maline. I'm the um

2078
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:59,360
librarian. Um, as part of the budget

2079
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,840
that we all passed today, the library

2080
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,320
will be expanding hours and we hope to

2081
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:06,159
be open a little bit earlier in the

2082
01:25:06,159 --> 01:25:09,679
mornings and more consistently hopefully

2083
01:25:09,679 --> 01:25:12,719
every day for at least a couple hours.

2084
01:25:12,719 --> 01:25:15,600
So, keep a lookout for that. And also,

2085
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,239
this summer we will have three bicycles

2086
01:25:18,239 --> 01:25:21,040
able to be rented um with your library

2087
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:28,070
card for free.

2088
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,639
So, uh, just make sure to keep an eye on

2089
01:25:30,639 --> 01:25:34,080
um the website jamaabbt library.org or

2090
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:37,600
pop by the library anytime. I'll be

2091
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:38,159
there.

2092
01:25:38,159 --> 01:25:45,350
>> Thank you.

2093
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:49,760
» Oh, sure. Um, I'm I'm in the midst of

2094
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,320
applying for a very large grant for the

2095
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,080
library through the Vermont Department

2096
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,560
of Libraries, um, all the way up to

2097
01:25:56,560 --> 01:26:00,080
$400,000. But it it's to insulate the

2098
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,520
library um, to hopefully make it so we

2099
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:06,719
can use the downstairs of the library

2100
01:26:06,719 --> 01:26:09,679
um, and do a new HVAC and improve the

2101
01:26:09,679 --> 01:26:11,840
accessibility of the building. So, like

2102
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:13,600
making sure that the ramps are safe and

2103
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,719
the doors have automatic openers. um and

2104
01:26:16,719 --> 01:26:18,639
things like that. So, it can be

2105
01:26:18,639 --> 01:26:20,639
available and used for years and years

2106
01:26:20,639 --> 01:26:23,040
to come and it won't just kind of go to

2107
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:23,920
this repair.

2108
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:28,229
>> Great. Thank you so much.

2109
01:26:28,239 --> 01:26:30,560
» I've got a question for road

2110
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,239
commissioner/

2111
01:26:32,239 --> 01:26:34,719
highway department. Um on the fire

2112
01:26:34,719 --> 01:26:38,159
department, we've got a uh returning

2113
01:26:38,159 --> 01:26:41,600
call on Pikes Falls Road. been six times

2114
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:43,440
somebody's gone over the bridge at the

2115
01:26:43,440 --> 01:26:46,080
first bridge on Plex Falls. Coming down

2116
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,560
from Stratton, their GPS reroutes and it

2117
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:51,360
saves them three minutes going home to

2118
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:54,000
91. They don't see the turn that it's a

2119
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:56,239
90° turn and instead of going down the

2120
01:26:56,239 --> 01:26:58,560
driveway, they try to make the turn,

2121
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,080
jump over the guardrail that's been hit

2122
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,239
six times and spraying flat and land in

2123
01:27:02,239 --> 01:27:05,440
the river. Um, we get called out. It's a

2124
01:27:05,440 --> 01:27:07,440
waste of our time's resources to go deal

2125
01:27:07,440 --> 01:27:10,080
with that. What is is there any plan to

2126
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,000
fix that guard rail and increase

2127
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:13,760
visibility on signage

2128
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:17,360
>> for that corner coming down that strap?

2129
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:20,639
>> That is an excellent point. Um

2130
01:27:20,639 --> 01:27:22,400
>> there's not specific I mean a very very

2131
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:24,239
good point. I mean there's not specific

2132
01:27:24,239 --> 01:27:26,080
plans for that. We could easily enough

2133
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:28,880
go put up a new sign. I can probably

2134
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:31,120
without being surprised to anybody. It's

2135
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:32,320
probably won't make a difference,

2136
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:34,719
>> right? Um, but we can easily put up a

2137
01:27:34,719 --> 01:27:37,199
new sign and and um take a look at the

2138
01:27:37,199 --> 01:27:39,199
guardrail again, you know, once the snow

2139
01:27:39,199 --> 01:27:40,880
bank's nothing but I know it's been beat

2140
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:41,199
up.

2141
01:27:41,199 --> 01:27:43,120
>> There used to be some kind of light

2142
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,360
flashing or strobing and

2143
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:46,560
>> like I said, the guard rail just

2144
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:47,679
destroyed at this point. People are

2145
01:27:47,679 --> 01:27:49,280
going to keep ramping off of this.

2146
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:50,719
>> Okay,

2147
01:27:50,719 --> 01:27:54,870
>> thank you for those

2148
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:58,000
» um just a reminder that um dog licenses

2149
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:01,360
are due April 1st and that's not a town

2150
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,840
thing. It's actually a state law. Um, so

2151
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:05,760
if you see dog owners, remind them that

2152
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:07,760
they need to get their dogs licensed.

2153
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:09,360
Um, and they can do that at the town

2154
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:10,159
hall.

2155
01:28:10,159 --> 01:28:10,719
>> Town office.

2156
01:28:10,719 --> 01:28:12,080
>> Oh, town office. Excuse me.

2157
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:12,880
>> Karen, good.

2158
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,920
>> I would like a discussion on education.

2159
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:17,840
>> Yeah. Can I just remind everybody first

2160
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:20,239
of all that um the meeting has been

2161
01:28:20,239 --> 01:28:24,239
warned for April 8th. We were asked by

2162
01:28:24,239 --> 01:28:26,960
um the school board, the uh West River

2163
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:30,560
Unified Education District to um vote as

2164
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:34,560
a town whether to close the school. And

2165
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,920
we warned a second article which is that

2166
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:41,280
if in fact the town does vote to close

2167
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:45,120
the school, do we as citizens um agree

2168
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,600
that we should buy that property back

2169
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:50,000
from the school district for a dollar?

2170
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,639
Um, we also warned an information

2171
01:28:52,639 --> 01:28:55,840
session for March 31st. It's the Tuesday

2172
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:59,120
before the April 8th um, election. The

2173
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:01,360
April 8th election is Australian ballot.

2174
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:03,040
It's not here on the floor like we do

2175
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:06,320
town meeting. Um, it's uh, voting is

2176
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,480
open. We What did we change it? 9:00

2177
01:29:08,480 --> 01:29:09,679
a.m. till

2178
01:29:09,679 --> 01:29:10,880
>> it's that's 9 to 7.

2179
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:12,320
>> 9 till 7. Yep.

2180
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:15,360
>> Um, and we can do we can do absentee

2181
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:16,960
ballots too, right? You can do absentee

2182
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:18,560
ballots on that as well.

2183
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:19,920
>> That's a regular election. That's a

2184
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:21,199
regular

2185
01:29:21,199 --> 01:29:24,000
>> um and the information session is also

2186
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,000
at the town office. I do encourage

2187
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:28,320
people to come. There's a subcommittee

2188
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:31,120
of the select board um right now that's

2189
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:35,040
in the process of preparing um concepts.

2190
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:36,800
I mean maybe can I can I leave that to

2191
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:38,000
you Robert? Do you want to just talk

2192
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:39,360
about the committee?

2193
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:40,960
>> Yeah. So, we have a subcommittee

2194
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:42,880
starting this Thursday evening run by

2195
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:44,480
Jason, myself and a number of people

2196
01:29:44,480 --> 01:29:47,120
from the community who are looking at um

2197
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,920
potential uses for the Jamaica Village

2198
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,480
School property if the town votes to

2199
01:29:52,480 --> 01:29:54,719
close the school. Um it's more of a

2200
01:29:54,719 --> 01:29:57,280
preparation. We're not talking about

2201
01:29:57,280 --> 01:29:58,880
during this committee if we should or if

2202
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:00,880
we should not close the school. It's an

2203
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:04,480
if and type of scenario. So, we are just

2204
01:30:04,480 --> 01:30:06,159
reaching out to community members. If

2205
01:30:06,159 --> 01:30:07,600
anybody would like to join us, you can

2206
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:09,760
definitely reach out to myself or Jason.

2207
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:11,679
Um, we're having our first meeting this

2208
01:30:11,679 --> 01:30:14,000
Thursday, 7:00 at the Jamaica Village

2209
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,560
School. And anybody with an idea is

2210
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:18,639
welcome. More the marrier. I think the

2211
01:30:18,639 --> 01:30:20,719
more ideas we get, the better off we're

2212
01:30:20,719 --> 01:30:21,520
going to be.

2213
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,360
>> What we heard from a lot of people was

2214
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:26,159
how do we possibly as a as as a group of

2215
01:30:26,159 --> 01:30:28,560
citizens vote whether to take back the

2216
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:30,960
school if there's not if there hasn't

2217
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:33,040
even been a discussion yet of what that

2218
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:36,320
what the property might be used for. So

2219
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:38,480
yeah, so that's that's what the

2220
01:30:38,480 --> 01:30:40,320
committee is going to be doing and

2221
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,560
that's what the information session is

2222
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:44,880
about for us as a town to to contemplate

2223
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:45,360
that.

2224
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:46,000
>> Jessica,

2225
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:49,120
>> oh, hold on. No, no, sorry. Kia, you're

2226
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:49,920
next.

2227
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:52,000
>> Um, sorry. Could you just repeat when

2228
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:55,120
that March 31st info session will be?

2229
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:55,920
What time?

2230
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:58,560
>> It's 7 o'clock at the town offices.

2231
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:00,800
>> Okay. Yes,

2232
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:02,960
>> Jean again.

2233
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:04,639
At the select board meeting that I did

2234
01:31:04,639 --> 01:31:07,280
attend, it was asked what the value of

2235
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:09,520
the school was to the listister and it

2236
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,520
hasn't been done. Is there any new

2237
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:13,920
action on the value of the school before

2238
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,239
we have this discussion about what to do

2239
01:31:16,239 --> 01:31:18,639
if the town votes to close the school?

2240
01:31:18,639 --> 01:31:23,280
>> It has been done.

2241
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:26,480
>> So, is there a value now? Thank you.

2242
01:31:26,480 --> 01:31:28,320
>> There is a value. I don't remember

2243
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:30,639
exactly what it is. We you'd have to

2244
01:31:30,639 --> 01:31:32,560
come into the lister's office and ask

2245
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:36,239
for the value. We don't memorize them.

2246
01:31:36,239 --> 01:31:37,440
>> So she they're saying you could come

2247
01:31:37,440 --> 01:31:41,199
into the lister's office. They're tomorrow 10 to 3 and they they

2248
01:31:41,199 --> 01:31:45,270
can give you that number.

2249
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:47,760
» Other topics? Anything else? Olivia, did

2250
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:48,560
you have something you wanted to say?

2251
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:49,199
I'm sorry.

2252
01:31:49,199 --> 01:31:50,960
>> No, I was asking what time you can see

2253
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:52,320
what time the meeting was, but

2254
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:53,040
>> Oh,

2255
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:57,990
>> seven. Seven. Okay. Sorry.

2256
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:00,159
» Anybody else? something. Yeah.

2257
01:32:00,159 --> 01:32:02,400
>> What is the status of a town wastewater

2258
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:04,400
project?

2259
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:05,920
>> Great question.

2260
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,000
>> What's what ask us what what is the

2261
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:10,320
status of the wastewater uh project in

2262
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:14,149
town?

2263
01:32:14,159 --> 01:32:17,760
» Well, pretty much Chrissy, can you talk

2264
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:19,600
a little bit? Thank you.

2265
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:24,080
>> Um I'm the engineer for the project and

2266
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:26,159
for London.

2267
01:32:26,159 --> 01:32:29,760
Um the legendary got a bunch of money

2268
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:33,040
uh like three or four years ago. Um that

2269
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:36,080
was our money and unfortunately it was

2270
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:38,000
all given out in one round. It was

2271
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:41,760
supposed to be given out two rounds and we weren't ready for the first round

2272
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,080
so we were little the second round but

2273
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:45,280
then they gave it all out the first

2274
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:49,520
round. Um I explained to the state they

2275
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:55,520
um so we have the um we have the study

2276
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,000
done and we we have we have to do a

2277
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:01,679
final presentation still um and so

2278
01:33:01,679 --> 01:33:03,199
actually Jessica and I just talked about

2279
01:33:03,199 --> 01:33:05,360
that the other day um about trying to

2280
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:08,080
schedule um the final presentation. We

2281
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:11,600
do have some extra money left over from

2282
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:13,840
the funding we already got, which is

2283
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:17,600
100% grant. Um, and so I'm going to be

2284
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:20,239
talking to the state about um the

2285
01:33:20,239 --> 01:33:22,080
possibility of taking that money and

2286
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:25,199
turning it around to use it um on

2287
01:33:25,199 --> 01:33:27,199
getting like the first part of the

2288
01:33:27,199 --> 01:33:29,760
design done just to get as much done as

2289
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:33,920
we can with the money we have. Um, and

2290
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:35,679
then moving forward there there are some

2291
01:33:35,679 --> 01:33:37,440
funding opportunities to continue

2292
01:33:37,440 --> 01:33:40,159
design. It's not 100% grant though. Um,

2293
01:33:40,159 --> 01:33:42,239
so that's something that um I'm going to

2294
01:33:42,239 --> 01:33:43,760
talk to Jessica about and I'm sure the

2295
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:45,440
select board will will be talking about

2296
01:33:45,440 --> 01:33:48,639
it then. Um, so keep an eye out. There

2297
01:33:48,639 --> 01:33:50,320
will be a meeting coming up to just

2298
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:54,480
finish out the study part of it. Um, and

2299
01:33:54,480 --> 01:33:56,239
uh, and then that'll be the final

2300
01:33:56,239 --> 01:33:57,840
meeting for the study and then hopefully

2301
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,639
we can move to some design. enough. So,

2302
01:34:00,639 --> 01:34:02,320
correct me if I'm saying anything wrong.

2303
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:04,639
So, at that point, right, because there

2304
01:34:04,639 --> 01:34:07,360
aren't federally funded monies that are

2305
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:09,679
available for us to to attempt to

2306
01:34:09,679 --> 01:34:12,159
capture, and it doesn't seem likely, at

2307
01:34:12,159 --> 01:34:13,679
least with the current federal

2308
01:34:13,679 --> 01:34:15,440
administration, that more funds are

2309
01:34:15,440 --> 01:34:16,960
going to be coming into states like

2310
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:19,920
Vermont for these kinds of projects. we

2311
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:22,000
have the option to either sit and wait

2312
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:24,719
until maybe a further a future

2313
01:34:24,719 --> 01:34:26,239
administration

2314
01:34:26,239 --> 01:34:29,199
um pushing out some funds or we can

2315
01:34:29,199 --> 01:34:32,800
always as a town opt for potentially you

2316
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:34,639
know there are different options.

2317
01:34:34,639 --> 01:34:36,560
There's like the lowest cost option and

2318
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:39,440
the highest cost option. So we can as a

2319
01:34:39,440 --> 01:34:42,320
town potentially agree that we want to

2320
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:44,560
go with one of those options and to seek

2321
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:47,120
a bond. So we could finance it the same

2322
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:49,199
way the town financed the current town

2323
01:34:49,199 --> 01:34:52,159
garage which is nearly actually that

2324
01:34:52,159 --> 01:34:55,520
bond is nearly paid off and that go so

2325
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:57,280
there are other ways that we could

2326
01:34:57,280 --> 01:34:59,040
undertake that project other than

2327
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:02,400
federal funds but it would mean the town

2328
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:04,400
is borrowing the money.

2329
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:07,920
>> That that is correct. Um it the ARPA

2330
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,239
money is is

2331
01:35:10,239 --> 01:35:12,239
that kind of money comes around once

2332
01:35:12,239 --> 01:35:14,239
every

2333
01:35:14,239 --> 01:35:16,880
10 to 15 years. The last time was the

2334
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:19,280
era money which was back to 2008. So we

2335
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:21,679
had era money in 2008. We had ARC money

2336
01:35:21,679 --> 01:35:24,000
in 22.

2337
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,480
>> So that's the time frame we're looking.

2338
01:35:26,480 --> 01:35:28,400
It's usually triggered by some sort of

2339
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:31,760
major thing. the pandemic. Um I think we

2340
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:34,080
had a

2341
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:35,920
um we had this economic downturn,

2342
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:36,719
>> right?

2343
01:35:36,719 --> 01:35:40,639
>> Um so we can't we we can wait for that

2344
01:35:40,639 --> 01:35:42,960
money. It could be another 15 plus

2345
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:43,840
years.

2346
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,320
>> Um but the thing is that when that big

2347
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:48,639
pot of money comes out because of some

2348
01:35:48,639 --> 01:35:51,120
event that happens, the projects that

2349
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:52,639
get it are the projects that are ready

2350
01:35:52,639 --> 01:35:55,600
for it. And so it's important for us to

2351
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:58,400
keep moving forward as much as possible

2352
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:01,199
and to put some sort of design on the

2353
01:36:01,199 --> 01:36:02,800
shelf so that we're ready when that

2354
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,760
money does come. So it it's it's a

2355
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:12,470
long-term schedule.

2356
01:36:12,480 --> 01:36:13,360
>> Yes.

2357
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:16,719
>> Yeah. That's why we're finishing it

2358
01:36:16,719 --> 01:36:20,639
>> or as much as we have money for

2359
01:36:20,639 --> 01:36:25,600
this. to get the town on on water and

2360
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:27,920
septic, not what they're doing now, so

2361
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:29,679
they can expand. Is that

2362
01:36:29,679 --> 01:36:32,560
>> I believe the plan was to get a septic,

2363
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:34,080
>> not water. So people would still have

2364
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:36,320
wells in town, but the septic would be a

2365
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:38,320
shared septic and that takes away all

2366
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:40,480
the regulations of the 100 ft distance

2367
01:36:40,480 --> 01:36:41,840
between your well and your other. So

2368
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:43,040
that that's that's what we're trying to

2369
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:45,119
do is you take out that one piece and

2370
01:36:45,119 --> 01:36:47,600
that frees up people to expand capacity

2371
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:49,600
in restaurants or the store, whatever

2372
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:50,560
they want to do. That's correct.

2373
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:51,679
>> That's my understanding.

2374
01:36:51,679 --> 01:36:53,199
>> Thank you.

2375
01:36:53,199 --> 01:36:53,920
>> Yes.

2376
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:57,600
Peter. Um, so as I understand it,

2377
01:36:57,600 --> 01:36:59,920
this project is the whole town is going

2378
01:36:59,920 --> 01:37:01,760
to pay or contribute for this whole

2379
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:04,239
project that's going to benefit a dozen

2380
01:37:04,239 --> 01:37:06,880
locations in the downtown area.

2381
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:08,159
>> And so we're going to be you're asking

2382
01:37:08,159 --> 01:37:10,800
the town everybody in town to pay for

2383
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:13,119
the 12 people or so or dozen properties

2384
01:37:13,119 --> 01:37:14,960
in downtown.

2385
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:16,800
Well, we're not asking anybody anything

2386
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:18,239
because there are no funds that we're

2387
01:37:18,239 --> 01:37:21,840
going for. The the design includes

2388
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:25,440
funding sources and uh it would Yeah,

2389
01:37:25,440 --> 01:37:28,159
it's it's uh like all municipalities in

2390
01:37:28,159 --> 01:37:33,270
the state of Vermont where there's uh

2391
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:35,280
» he still he still has the floor.

2392
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:37,840
>> So, is there any other restriction? And

2393
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:39,679
I know in a nearby town, a neighboring

2394
01:37:39,679 --> 01:37:43,760
town, there's a a water water department

2395
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:46,320
company that was a private consortium

2396
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:50,080
between the land owners and that solved

2397
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:51,920
their problem. Is there anything

2398
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:54,000
preventing this town from doing that

2399
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:55,840
same thing, the land owners here from

2400
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:57,679
joining together and creating that kind

2401
01:37:57,679 --> 01:38:00,000
of an opportunity that that way the cost

2402
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:02,560
isn't shared by the entire town for the

2403
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:04,239
benefit of just the people in the

2404
01:38:04,239 --> 01:38:06,560
downtown area?

2405
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:08,000
I don't do you know what that is,

2406
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,320
Chrissy? I'm not familiar with

2407
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:12,880
>> So, I'm not familiar with with anything

2408
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,520
private, but there there's some options

2409
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:17,840
the town has. So, the town can there

2410
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:19,600
there's funding available. There's there

2411
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:22,800
are loans available. Um the town could

2412
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:25,760
choose to take out a loan to finish

2413
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:29,840
design and and do construction. Um that

2414
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:33,840
loan then has to be paid back. So the

2415
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:36,159
town can choose that everybody in town,

2416
01:38:36,159 --> 01:38:38,159
every taxpayer in town has to pay that

2417
01:38:38,159 --> 01:38:40,480
loan back through your through your town

2418
01:38:40,480 --> 01:38:44,480
taxes or they can apply that loan to the

2419
01:38:44,480 --> 01:38:47,679
users of the system only and the users

2420
01:38:47,679 --> 01:38:52,239
pay it back. Um so most towns, you know,

2421
01:38:52,239 --> 01:38:55,040
you go to let's say Manchester and they

2422
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:59,280
take out a loan to fix a sewer main the

2423
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:01,280
users of the sewer system pay for that.

2424
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:02,639
The whole town does not pay for that.

2425
01:39:02,639 --> 01:39:06,080
just users pay for that. London with

2426
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:08,159
their new wastewater system that's going

2427
01:39:08,159 --> 01:39:12,800
to be constructed. Um they have uh

2428
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:16,000
elected to have the entire town pay for

2429
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:19,840
the loan cost and the users pay the

2430
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:22,080
operation maintenance of the system. Um

2431
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:24,400
so each town can do it differently.

2432
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:26,719
>> Um and and Jamaica can choose to do it

2433
01:39:26,719 --> 01:39:28,880
however you want.

2434
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:29,360
>> Thank you.

2435
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:30,639
>> But those decisions haven't been made

2436
01:39:30,639 --> 01:39:35,830
yet. who now

2437
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:37,600
» right before I I'm gonna Anyone else

2438
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:38,880
have anything to say before we go into

2439
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:41,440
the school discussion?

2440
01:39:41,440 --> 01:39:43,040
>> Unrelated thing to say.

2441
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:44,400
>> I was going to say something to his town

2442
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:45,920
clerk. I just want to let everybody know

2443
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:47,600
that the town office hours have

2444
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:49,760
increased. I know you said till 4:00.

2445
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:52,400
The office is now open 7:30 a.m. till

2446
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:54,880
4:30 p.m. Monday through Thursday. So,

2447
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:56,480
we're still closed on Fridays, but it

2448
01:39:56,480 --> 01:39:58,400
does give people time before they go to

2449
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:00,239
work and possibly getting off work a

2450
01:40:00,239 --> 01:40:01,360
little early and coming in. I know that

2451
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:03,199
there was 9 to4 previously. So, we have

2452
01:40:03,199 --> 01:40:05,040
expanded that significantly since I've

2453
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:06,800
become town clerk. So, just so everybody

2454
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:08,480
knows that, coming in to say hello. We'd

2455
01:40:08,480 --> 01:40:10,080
always like to have visitors,

2456
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:11,119
>> Erica. And then we're going to go to the

2457
01:40:11,119 --> 01:40:11,840
school discussion.

2458
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:15,760
>> Okay. I have a fun thing to announce.

2459
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:20,239
>> On March 15th at 300 p.m. there is going

2460
01:40:20,239 --> 01:40:22,560
to be a fantastic event in this town

2461
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:25,520
hall. Oh. Um, we have a conflict with

2462
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:27,520
that. We need to talk about that.

2463
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:30,950
>> Sorry.

2464
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:32,639
I I don't want to shut you down,

2465
01:40:32,639 --> 01:40:34,239
but we we need to we need to talk about

2466
01:40:34,239 --> 01:40:34,960
that

2467
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:43,510
>> secretly. Yeah. Ask her secret.

2468
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:45,760
» Sorry. But yeah, Drew, you want to go

2469
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:47,840
Drew and Dana, please talk about the

2470
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:50,159
schools? Um,

2471
01:40:50,159 --> 01:40:51,920
so Jay and I represent the town of

2472
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:53,679
Jamaica as part of the West River

2473
01:40:53,679 --> 01:40:55,920
Education District. So that is the other

2474
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:57,840
part of your tax bill, the much larger

2475
01:40:57,840 --> 01:40:58,880
chunk of your tax bill,

2476
01:40:58,880 --> 01:40:59,679
>> more expensive.

2477
01:40:59,679 --> 01:41:00,639
>> Um,

2478
01:41:00,639 --> 01:41:03,040
>> and in fact, the biggest chunk that you

2479
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:05,119
don't control of your tax bill.

2480
01:41:05,119 --> 01:41:07,760
>> And I wanted to take a moment to explain

2481
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:10,400
where we're at right now with uh

2482
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:13,520
education. And if you want to come to

2483
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:14,960
schoolboard meetings, we love

2484
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:18,080
attendance. Um so please come and join

2485
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:21,119
us. So just to bring everybody uh into

2486
01:41:21,119 --> 01:41:25,280
the same place. Um over the years um

2487
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:28,000
Jamaica has decided to do certain

2488
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:30,639
things. So if we go way back before I

2489
01:41:30,639 --> 01:41:34,239
was born um Jamaica uh became one of the

2490
01:41:34,239 --> 01:41:38,000
Leon and Grey towns. So we joined a

2491
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,159
union school district um which was Leon

2492
01:41:40,159 --> 01:41:42,880
and Gray. So we had a local school board

2493
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:44,639
and then we had a little Grady school

2494
01:41:44,639 --> 01:41:46,800
board um that took care of our high

2495
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:49,360
school kids. So for a long time our we

2496
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:50,800
had two different boards, two different

2497
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:52,239
budgets. They got merged and that's what

2498
01:41:52,239 --> 01:41:54,320
you paid your taxes on before that to

2499
01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:57,280
make it care of all of your own kids.

2500
01:41:57,280 --> 01:42:00,960
Fast forward a few years um and we

2501
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:02,400
through a whole bunch of legislative

2502
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:05,119
action we had some options to either try

2503
01:42:05,119 --> 01:42:08,480
to get out of that um or not.

2504
01:42:08,480 --> 01:42:11,280
Ultimately, Jamaica decided to stay in

2505
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:13,360
mostly because of the how complicated it

2506
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:15,600
was to remove ourselves from that union

2507
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:18,080
school district.

2508
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:20,560
Fast forward another few years, more uh

2509
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:23,360
legislation brought us to merging

2510
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:25,119
governance, much like Laura talked about

2511
01:42:25,119 --> 01:42:27,600
this morning. The first step was merging

2512
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:29,600
governance and you had to merge into

2513
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:32,239
like districts. Well, we were already um

2514
01:42:32,239 --> 01:42:34,639
a you in the district with New Fain and

2515
01:42:34,639 --> 01:42:36,480
Brookline and Townsen as part of the

2516
01:42:36,480 --> 01:42:38,239
Union School District. So, we've merged

2517
01:42:38,239 --> 01:42:40,480
into what is now West River Education

2518
01:42:40,480 --> 01:42:43,199
District. So, West River Education

2519
01:42:43,199 --> 01:42:49,520
District now controls education from preschool to 12th grade. Um, it's

2520
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:52,719
one board that controls that education.

2521
01:42:52,719 --> 01:42:55,920
That board operates currently uh four

2522
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:57,760
school buildings, one here in Jamaica,

2523
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:00,000
one in New Feay, one in Townsen, and the

2524
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:03,040
Leon and Gray campus.

2525
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:05,280
that West River Education District is

2526
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:08,239
part of the Windham Central Supervisory

2527
01:43:08,239 --> 01:43:11,760
Union. Windham Central Supervisory Union

2528
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:15,280
um has other school districts that also

2529
01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:18,159
um are part of the the supervisory union

2530
01:43:18,159 --> 01:43:20,960
including Malo who is being whose

2531
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:22,639
populace is being asked to close their

2532
01:43:22,639 --> 01:43:25,840
school today. um River Valleys which is

2533
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:28,880
a merger between Dover and Wartsboro and

2534
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:31,520
then Stratton uh who's a non-operating

2535
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:33,199
district and Windham who's also now

2536
01:43:33,199 --> 01:43:36,400
nonoperating. So that's the structure.

2537
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:38,400
What's important to understand is that

2538
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:40,480
as this legislative process has happened

2539
01:43:40,480 --> 01:43:43,199
over the last 20 years, responsibility

2540
01:43:43,199 --> 01:43:47,920
keeps shifting. So more things um more

2541
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:50,159
responsibilities have been shifted away

2542
01:43:50,159 --> 01:43:53,520
from local control here in this room.

2543
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:55,280
Like we are not voting on a budget here

2544
01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:59,360
today, right? Has moved away from the

2545
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:01,920
school board and moved to for example

2546
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:04,400
the superintendent's office. So, if you

2547
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:06,480
were to look at those budgets today,

2548
01:44:06,480 --> 01:44:08,320
you're going to notice that a large

2549
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:11,679
percent of our local education budget is

2550
01:44:11,679 --> 01:44:14,960
an assessment from the supervisory union

2551
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:18,080
that you guys don't get to vote on ever.

2552
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:20,480
Um, I think this is really important for

2553
01:44:20,480 --> 01:44:22,800
people to realize. That number this year

2554
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:25,600
alone, um, for us in West River

2555
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:28,800
Education went up by over $700,000

2556
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:31,280
in the assessment side. Now, that

2557
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:34,639
assessment went up because of offsett

2558
01:44:34,639 --> 01:44:36,239
offsetting revenues that were not coming

2559
01:44:36,239 --> 01:44:37,840
from the federal government. But that

2560
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:40,800
assessment also went up because the

2561
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:42,639
school district and the supervisory

2562
01:44:42,639 --> 01:44:45,119
union have been utilizing fund balances

2563
01:44:45,119 --> 01:44:46,880
since the end of the pandemic to buy

2564
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:49,920
down tax rates. So, this year alone, the

2565
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:53,440
supervisory union budget um was bought

2566
01:44:53,440 --> 01:44:58,159
down by $1.1 million in fund balance and

2567
01:44:58,159 --> 01:44:59,520
you guys had to kick in another

2568
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:01,440
$750,000.

2569
01:45:01,440 --> 01:45:04,560
So, that's impacting our local budget.

2570
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:07,920
We went through a very long process of

2571
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:10,400
budgeting this year with our our

2572
01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:14,239
district looking at uh what our tax rate

2573
01:45:14,239 --> 01:45:16,080
might look like if we kept programming

2574
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:18,400
the same. and we were looking at almost

2575
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:21,600
a 30% tax increase uh in your education

2576
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:25,760
taxes um by taking that assessment from

2577
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,320
the SU and just level funding programs

2578
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:33,440
across our um district. Ultimately, we

2579
01:45:33,440 --> 01:45:35,199
did decide to come back to the town of

2580
01:45:35,199 --> 01:45:37,679
Jamaica and ask to close the Jamaica

2581
01:45:37,679 --> 01:45:40,320
Villa School and the programming at

2582
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:42,400
Jamaica Village School with the intent

2583
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:45,119
that we could offer the same or similar

2584
01:45:45,119 --> 01:45:48,320
programming um at the other facilities,

2585
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:51,199
bringing down the uh the total cost.

2586
01:45:51,199 --> 01:45:53,600
Now, keep in mind that we're reducing

2587
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:56,239
costs in our local budget,

2588
01:45:56,239 --> 01:45:58,880
but we're not actually reducing costs

2589
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:01,119
because we had a massive increase in the

2590
01:46:01,119 --> 01:46:03,840
assessment that came down to us. So, if

2591
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:05,520
you were to go to one of our school

2592
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:06,639
board meetings and look at the

2593
01:46:06,639 --> 01:46:09,280
spreadsheet that we were working with,

2594
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:11,760
um, every reduction we made in

2595
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:14,320
programming in our local district was

2596
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:17,119
offset, um, by additional assessments

2597
01:46:17,119 --> 01:46:19,440
that were coming to us. So, it's a very

2598
01:46:19,440 --> 01:46:22,560
difficult um discussion. We try to get

2599
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:25,920
through it with making as little program

2600
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:28,159
changes to kids as we can.

2601
01:46:28,159 --> 01:46:30,480
Unfortunately, we don't get to control a

2602
01:46:30,480 --> 01:46:33,360
lot of the expenses.

2603
01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:37,040
We also bought down our own tax rate in

2604
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:40,000
our district utilizing fund balance. So,

2605
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:43,760
we utilize about 350,000 of local West

2606
01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:45,440
River Education District funds to buy

2607
01:46:45,440 --> 01:46:47,280
down the tax rate.

2608
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:49,520
We don't know the final number yet

2609
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:51,199
because the legislature has to set that

2610
01:46:51,199 --> 01:46:53,280
in June, but you're probably going to be

2611
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:57,199
looking at roughly a 10% education tax

2612
01:46:57,199 --> 01:47:01,600
increase even if the town votes to close

2613
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:05,679
the school and even with all of the fund

2614
01:47:05,679 --> 01:47:08,880
balances which total about a million a

2615
01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:11,280
half dollars um of buying down the tax

2616
01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:12,960
rate.

2617
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:15,199
I want to bring this up because this is

2618
01:47:15,199 --> 01:47:18,159
the last year of fund balance. Um the

2619
01:47:18,159 --> 01:47:19,600
supervisory unit has no more fund

2620
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:21,520
balance. The education district has no

2621
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:25,600
more fund balance. So next year um the

2622
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:27,920
full weighted budget is going to hit

2623
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:29,760
your taxes. Like there's nothing there's

2624
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:33,040
no other levers that the boards have to

2625
01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:35,679
pull in order to reduce the impact of

2626
01:47:35,679 --> 01:47:40,080
education taxes. So that's the good news

2627
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:42,800
I have to share with you all.

2628
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:46,719
Um, and if anybody wants to uh come to a

2629
01:47:46,719 --> 01:47:48,320
board meeting and wants to take over my

2630
01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:49,920
board seat, um,

2631
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:52,000
>> can we also share that all of this

2632
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:54,159
information is actually on the website

2633
01:47:54,159 --> 01:47:56,880
and it's very well presented, including

2634
01:47:56,880 --> 01:47:59,199
the evolutions of the budget drafts.

2635
01:47:59,199 --> 01:48:01,840
>> So, I got the pleasure of taking over as

2636
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:03,360
the chair of the Western Education

2637
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:05,199
District this year, and my goal has been

2638
01:48:05,199 --> 01:48:06,880
about public transparency and making

2639
01:48:06,880 --> 01:48:09,199
sure you can find this information and

2640
01:48:09,199 --> 01:48:11,920
we have um,

2641
01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:13,360
We've been very aggressive with the

2642
01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:14,960
administration about making sure that

2643
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:16,480
this information is available. So, you

2644
01:48:16,480 --> 01:48:18,960
can go to the website and see every

2645
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:20,880
draft of the budget meetings and

2646
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:23,600
discussions for West River. The

2647
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:27,199
documents for the SU are less clear, but

2648
01:48:27,199 --> 01:48:30,480
better than they've ever been. Um,

2649
01:48:30,480 --> 01:48:31,760
>> what's the website?

2650
01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:34,719
>> Uh, so look at Windham Central uh

2651
01:48:34,719 --> 01:48:37,360
Windham Centrals.org or Windham Central

2652
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:39,280
Supervisory Union and it'll link to

2653
01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:41,760
that. you want to do the full thing

2654
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:44,320
because there's other entities out there

2655
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:46,719
on the internet. If you go WCS,

2656
01:48:46,719 --> 01:48:47,600
>> I can put one out there.

2657
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:49,679
>> You'll get sites you don't want.

2658
01:48:49,679 --> 01:48:50,639
>> We just And we just

2659
01:48:50,639 --> 01:48:51,920
>> I'll put a link on the website to

2660
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:53,440
everybody. So, there'll be a post and

2661
01:48:53,440 --> 01:48:55,040
there'll be a w link on the website.

2662
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:56,159
>> A link. Yeah.

2663
01:48:56,159 --> 01:48:58,400
>> And if any specific questions, I I don't

2664
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:00,239
have much more time, but I'll try to do

2665
01:49:00,239 --> 01:49:04,000
my best to answer. Um certainly, you're

2666
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:07,199
welcome to come to board meetings. Um,

2667
01:49:07,199 --> 01:49:10,239
if you have spare time and you're

2668
01:49:10,239 --> 01:49:12,880
interested to see where the state is,

2669
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:14,639
you can go on to YouTube and you can

2670
01:49:14,639 --> 01:49:17,199
watch the state house and senate

2671
01:49:17,199 --> 01:49:20,080
education committees. They are

2672
01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:22,080
discussing

2673
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:25,360
redistricting. Um, there is a big push

2674
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:28,159
for regional high schools, centralized

2675
01:49:28,159 --> 01:49:32,480
middle schools, and limited elementary

2676
01:49:32,480 --> 01:49:34,880
schools. like they want them more or

2677
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:37,679
less centralized too. They want bigger

2678
01:49:37,679 --> 01:49:39,199
districts. Laura mentioned this morning

2679
01:49:39,199 --> 01:49:40,480
there's a couple maps out if you haven't

2680
01:49:40,480 --> 01:49:42,239
looked at it. One of the maps would

2681
01:49:42,239 --> 01:49:44,880
actually take this swath and combine us

2682
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:47,760
with the Bellis Falls area. Um again

2683
01:49:47,760 --> 01:49:50,880
further removing governance local

2684
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:51,600
control

2685
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:53,520
>> and adding bigger

2686
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:55,520
>> basically everything from Winhaul all

2687
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:58,400
the way like a almost a square swath all

2688
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:00,080
the way over to Phil Falls. We become

2689
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:02,239
part of a single district with that

2690
01:50:02,239 --> 01:50:03,679
entire area. That's one of the

2691
01:50:03,679 --> 01:50:06,719
proposals. That's the house. The Senate

2692
01:50:06,719 --> 01:50:09,840
has us lumped in with Twin Valley and

2693
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:12,000
Bradboro probably Bradboro because they

2694
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:13,840
wanted to base the regional high schools

2695
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:17,040
around career centers. And there's a big

2696
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:20,000
push for that on the governor and the

2697
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:22,960
senate side. So we'd be lumped in with

2698
01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:26,159
Bradboro, Southeastern, Southwestern,

2699
01:50:26,159 --> 01:50:29,679
Windham, and Central

2700
01:50:29,679 --> 01:50:32,159
and Wartsboro and Dover would be taken

2701
01:50:32,159 --> 01:50:36,800
out of our district and given to uh

2702
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:38,880
>> over the hill Manchester.

2703
01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:41,600
>> Other questions for for Drew and Dana?

2704
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:44,400
Jean. Jean, you're I did you have a

2705
01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:45,520
question?

2706
01:50:45,520 --> 01:50:47,280
Thank you both. I've been watching this

2707
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:50,000
for a while and you guys are eloquently

2708
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:53,679
transparent and on our side as people as

2709
01:50:53,679 --> 01:50:56,960
we people. My question is my

2710
01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:58,880
understanding is there was a contract

2711
01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:02,000
signed a while back that made the town

2712
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:06,639
of Jamaica unable to step out of the

2713
01:51:06,639 --> 01:51:09,920
district. Do you guys have an access to

2714
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:12,400
an attorney who could help us do that if

2715
01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:14,400
that's what the town decides? So, it's

2716
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:16,560
not that we can't get out. So, the the

2717
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:20,000
legislature created a process for uh

2718
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:22,480
dissolving these types of unions. And

2719
01:51:22,480 --> 01:51:24,480
what it is is Jamaica would have to vote

2720
01:51:24,480 --> 01:51:27,040
to leave and then all of the other towns

2721
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:29,040
that were partners with would have to

2722
01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:31,199
vote to let us out. So, the process is

2723
01:51:31,199 --> 01:51:35,040
clearly defined. Um it's just very very

2724
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:37,280
unlikely that all of the other

2725
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:38,880
communities because then they would

2726
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:43,760
fully um the taxation. So, it's not

2727
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:45,520
there isn't a process. The process is

2728
01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:47,360
very well defined. It's just there's

2729
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:49,119
nobody that believes that would ever

2730
01:51:49,119 --> 01:51:52,080
actually get through there. Um, now that

2731
01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:54,159
being said, the legislature with what

2732
01:51:54,159 --> 01:51:56,239
they're doing in Montpillar um may be

2733
01:51:56,239 --> 01:51:57,920
changing that process and force

2734
01:51:57,920 --> 01:52:00,000
dissolving some of these mergers through

2735
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:01,440
legislation.

2736
01:52:01,440 --> 01:52:02,800
>> Mary, did you have something?

2737
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:04,400
>> At one time, I thought there was

2738
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:08,800
something that states so many students

2739
01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:12,159
go to schools every day. It was a large

2740
01:52:12,159 --> 01:52:14,560
number or something would happen to that

2741
01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:17,119
this I can't imagine that we have that

2742
01:52:17,119 --> 01:52:20,560
number that they request like 1,200 or

2743
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:21,920
students a day.

2744
01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:24,239
>> There was originally but they jumped

2745
01:52:24,239 --> 01:52:27,679
that down to 2,000 to 4,000

2746
01:52:27,679 --> 01:52:30,320
>> but originally they wanted uh

2747
01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:32,800
>> 4,000 to 8,000 12,000.

2748
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:33,199
>> Right?

2749
01:52:33,199 --> 01:52:35,920
>> So put it into perspective. Our entire

2750
01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:39,599
supervisory union only has 600 children.

2751
01:52:39,599 --> 01:52:42,320
So, we're not even close to the minimum

2752
01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:43,599
sizes that they're kicking around at

2753
01:52:43,599 --> 01:52:47,840
Montpillar. Um, so again, there's definitely more changes coming

2754
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:50,320
because every time and we've been

2755
01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:52,639
watching kind of the movement up there,

2756
01:52:52,639 --> 01:52:53,920
uh, when they look when they talk about

2757
01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:55,440
minimum size for a high school or

2758
01:52:55,440 --> 01:52:58,239
minimum size or class size or minimum

2759
01:52:58,239 --> 01:53:00,000
whatever their new minimum discussion of

2760
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:03,040
the week is, um, we don't seem to meet

2761
01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:04,560
any of them.

2762
01:53:04,560 --> 01:53:06,480
um they're definitely not designed for

2763
01:53:06,480 --> 01:53:10,080
rural communities and the only their

2764
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:11,520
answer is well then we'll just move

2765
01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:16,880
those kids to more urban areas like and some of the the busing guidance that

2766
01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:19,840
they put out they're ex they're

2767
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:22,159
accepting an hourong busing as

2768
01:53:22,159 --> 01:53:24,239
reasonable for elementary and 90 minutes

2769
01:53:24,239 --> 01:53:25,760
for for secondary.

2770
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:26,080
>> Yeah.

2771
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:27,840
>> So like these are some of the numbers

2772
01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:29,199
that are kicking around as part of this

2773
01:53:29,199 --> 01:53:30,960
policy discussion

2774
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:34,719
>> um up in Mont Pillar. So it's very

2775
01:53:34,719 --> 01:53:37,760
possible that through this there could

2776
01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:40,719
be um an expectation that our kids are

2777
01:53:40,719 --> 01:53:44,080
on buses for a very long time. There is

2778
01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:47,119
um some talk of eliminating school

2779
01:53:47,119 --> 01:53:48,800
choice.

2780
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:52,400
The whole thing they uh feel there's the

2781
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:55,199
push for public education

2782
01:53:55,199 --> 01:53:57,920
uh you know trying a high school trying

2783
01:53:57,920 --> 01:54:00,080
to give AP classes and they only got

2784
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:03,920
five kids. Well, it's because the kids

2785
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:06,080
that would be in that class have school

2786
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:07,599
choice.

2787
01:54:07,599 --> 01:54:09,040
See, they're looking at you could do

2788
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:10,480
early college. Well, they're talking

2789
01:54:10,480 --> 01:54:12,880
about doing away with that, which gave

2790
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:16,239
kids opportunity to get programming that

2791
01:54:16,239 --> 01:54:19,040
they couldn't get in their high school.

2792
01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:20,800
We're fighting against each other in a

2793
01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:23,040
way either, you know. So, the school

2794
01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:25,440
choice question is even coming up to

2795
01:54:25,440 --> 01:54:27,840
where they may abolish that.

2796
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:32,880
So, what can we do as a community to

2797
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:35,599
support you or to make better choice uh

2798
01:54:35,599 --> 01:54:38,719
choices that don't take things away from

2799
01:54:38,719 --> 01:54:41,520
our kids and put them on buses for three

2800
01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:44,080
hours a day? What can we all do? What

2801
01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:45,440
action can we take?

2802
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:47,040
>> So,

2803
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:49,360
a lot of those decisions uh right now

2804
01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:54,080
are out of our local hands. So, um,

2805
01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:58,159
contacting Laura, um, Emily Long, who's

2806
01:54:58,159 --> 01:54:59,760
a new thing representative, sits on

2807
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:02,960
House Education. So, um, again, continue

2808
01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:06,239
to communicate with our legislators in

2809
01:55:06,239 --> 01:55:09,520
Mont Pillar. Um, and then locally on the

2810
01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:12,080
board, we we want to hear from people.

2811
01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:14,000
We've got some really really tough

2812
01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:16,400
decisions um, you know,

2813
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:17,840
>> that that are happening now. We are

2814
01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:21,360
having to downsize staff. um we are

2815
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:23,040
having to make decisions that are

2816
01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:25,280
affecting kids and we don't have a

2817
01:55:25,280 --> 01:55:31,189
choice. Um we have so we started

2818
01:55:31,199 --> 01:55:33,760
when the enrollment started dropping so

2819
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:35,599
you know Jamaican village boosts have

2820
01:55:35,599 --> 01:55:37,760
100 children in it. U we don't have 100

2821
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:41,360
children in that age range across three

2822
01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:43,199
towns now right it's just we just don't

2823
01:55:43,199 --> 01:55:46,159
have the kids. So as we've continued to

2824
01:55:46,159 --> 01:55:49,599
consolidate and made it get smaller um

2825
01:55:49,599 --> 01:55:51,119
the grades that are coming in are

2826
01:55:51,119 --> 01:55:52,239
smaller than the grades that are going

2827
01:55:52,239 --> 01:55:54,800
out. So our population and the way that

2828
01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:57,679
the formula works is based on um per

2829
01:55:57,679 --> 01:56:00,320
pupil spending. Our per pupil spending

2830
01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:03,440
this year we we were through some sort

2831
01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:06,320
of formula anomaly and we're not going

2832
01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:09,920
to tell the state about it. Um, our

2833
01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:12,800
makebelieve student count, our per pupil

2834
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:15,280
students actually went up. Even though

2835
01:56:15,280 --> 01:56:17,679
that's not the way you count children,

2836
01:56:17,679 --> 01:56:18,719
>> it's not a one-on-one.

2837
01:56:18,719 --> 01:56:19,840
>> And I'm just going to hang on, let me

2838
01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:21,840
just back up a minute cuz it probably

2839
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:23,280
sounds like I'm confused, right?

2840
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:24,800
Everybody in the room, if I ask you how

2841
01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:26,000
many kids were in the district, you go

2842
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:29,119
in there and go 1 2 3 4 5, right? That

2843
01:56:29,119 --> 01:56:30,480
is not how the state of Vermont counts

2844
01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:32,480
kids. Um, there are some kids that are

2845
01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:33,840
worth less than one. There are some kids

2846
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:35,679
that are worth more than one. And we

2847
01:56:35,679 --> 01:56:38,400
have Oh, yeah. preschool kids. By the

2848
01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:40,480
way, anybody here ever tried to manage a

2849
01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:42,159
preschool age child? They're they only

2850
01:56:42,159 --> 01:56:44,639
count as point4. Yeah. I can tell you

2851
01:56:44,639 --> 01:56:48,480
that in my house that was like a 2.0.

2852
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:51,199
So, but anyway, so there there's these

2853
01:56:51,199 --> 01:56:52,960
different weights. So, even though we

2854
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:55,760
only have, you know, roughly, you know,

2855
01:56:55,760 --> 01:56:58,719
400 kids, we have a pupil per pupil

2856
01:56:58,719 --> 01:57:01,920
count that's 817. And it changes. These

2857
01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:04,000
weights all change. So that's a major

2858
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:05,760
part of the formula, but they changed

2859
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:08,000
the way they count the kids every year.

2860
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:09,920
And so this year we got pretty lucky

2861
01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:12,639
because our make believe number was a

2862
01:57:12,639 --> 01:57:15,040
little bit higher, which means our total

2863
01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:16,639
per pupil spending went down because

2864
01:57:16,639 --> 01:57:18,239
that's how you divide it up. Total

2865
01:57:18,239 --> 01:57:21,040
spending divided by number of students.

2866
01:57:21,040 --> 01:57:23,440
Next year that's going to drop. Uh

2867
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:25,119
there's no question in my mind that that

2868
01:57:25,119 --> 01:57:26,480
our total number of students going to

2869
01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:27,760
drop, which is going to make our per

2870
01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:30,880
pupil price go higher. they reinstituted

2871
01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:34,159
our penalty this year last year. Um, so

2872
01:57:34,159 --> 01:57:36,320
every dollar we spend over the

2873
01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:39,360
allowable, we get taxed twice. It's a

2874
01:57:39,360 --> 01:57:41,760
100% penalty that the state is imposing

2875
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:45,520
on us. Um, now again, this is designed

2876
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:48,239
in my opinion to hurt rural communities

2877
01:57:48,239 --> 01:57:50,800
because it's impossible for us to

2878
01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:52,960
provide quality education and stable

2879
01:57:52,960 --> 01:57:55,599
threshold. So now we have to pay two to

2880
01:57:55,599 --> 01:57:57,920
one uh for every dollar that we spend

2881
01:57:57,920 --> 01:58:00,880
over it. The other thing they changed is

2882
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:03,199
uh it used to be that infrastructure,

2883
01:58:03,199 --> 01:58:04,880
bond payments and things like that were

2884
01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:06,880
not counted in your per pupil spending.

2885
01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:08,400
So you could make changes for

2886
01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:10,719
efficiency. So we for example could

2887
01:58:10,719 --> 01:58:13,199
reconfigure one of our buildings um

2888
01:58:13,199 --> 01:58:14,880
become more efficient and the bond

2889
01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:16,480
payment through that reconfiguration was

2890
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:18,320
not considered. They took that away from

2891
01:58:18,320 --> 01:58:20,639
us. Every improvement, every capital

2892
01:58:20,639 --> 01:58:23,520
investment we make all goes into uh the

2893
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:25,199
per pupil spending. So they've

2894
01:58:25,199 --> 01:58:28,320
handcuffed us in the in the world of

2895
01:58:28,320 --> 01:58:31,360
innovation too. So the idea that hey we

2896
01:58:31,360 --> 01:58:33,119
could become more efficient if we just

2897
01:58:33,119 --> 01:58:34,960
you know modernized our build building

2898
01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:36,080
so we didn't have to have four

2899
01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:39,840
principles. Well that bond would drive

2900
01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:41,440
us over the threshold and we'd be paying

2901
01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:44,000
double taxation on every dollar over. So

2902
01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:45,520
there's a lot of things like that are at

2903
01:58:45,520 --> 01:58:47,199
play. The other pieces that you guys

2904
01:58:47,199 --> 01:58:48,960
have to remember in Jamaica is that we

2905
01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:52,239
have a CLA that is 4

2906
01:58:52,239 --> 01:58:54,400
>> 48 48

2907
01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:55,760
>> 48

2908
01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:57,679
>> um which means your property valuations

2909
01:58:57,679 --> 01:59:00,880
they consider to be 50 roughly half of

2910
01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:03,760
what they should be. So Mont Pillar came

2911
01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:06,159
up with a multiplier this year which is

2912
01:59:06,159 --> 01:59:09,599
77 I believe. So now we have a

2913
01:59:09,599 --> 01:59:11,760
makebelieve number of students, a CLA

2914
01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:14,639
that's low, a.77 multiplier that was

2915
01:59:14,639 --> 01:59:16,960
added to it, and then the legislature is

2916
01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:18,800
going to pick a yield sometime between

2917
01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:20,560
now and June, and that's going to set

2918
01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:24,320
your tax rate. Um, so that's why I can't

2919
01:59:24,320 --> 01:59:26,080
tell you exactly what it's going to be.

2920
01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:28,400
Um, they like to tell us all that the

2921
01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:30,960
spending decisions are local. Um, if

2922
01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:32,560
anybody can figure out that formula and

2923
01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:34,400
tell us what that local decision is

2924
01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:36,800
there, I would love to hear it. Patty,

2925
01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:37,679
did you have your hand up?

2926
01:59:37,679 --> 01:59:39,360
>> I just want to know, are we better off

2927
01:59:39,360 --> 01:59:44,950
with more fake kids or less fake kids?

2928
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:47,760
» More fake kids. More fake kids.

2929
01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:49,679
>> Yes. More

2930
01:59:49,679 --> 01:59:57,750
>> grand kids. Yes.

2931
01:59:57,760 --> 01:59:59,599
» And And if anybody, we had a nice

2932
01:59:59,599 --> 02:00:02,639
discussion at Kama Village School um

2933
02:00:02,639 --> 02:00:05,040
earlier this winter. If anybody wants

2934
02:00:05,040 --> 02:00:07,199
like the real details as to how the

2935
02:00:07,199 --> 02:00:09,520
formula works, um I will go through all

2936
02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:11,679
the numbers with you and show you where

2937
02:00:11,679 --> 02:00:13,199
it works and how we came up with the

2938
02:00:13,199 --> 02:00:15,599
budget. Um it's one of my favorite

2939
02:00:15,599 --> 02:00:17,920
topics. So if you want to come, um we'll

2940
02:00:17,920 --> 02:00:19,119
go through that. you want to come to

2941
02:00:19,119 --> 02:00:21,119
board meetings and tell us about um

2942
02:00:21,119 --> 02:00:22,719
programs that you really don't want us

2943
02:00:22,719 --> 02:00:24,880
to cut. Um next year is going to be a

2944
02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:26,639
it's going to be a brutal budget

2945
02:00:26,639 --> 02:00:27,840
discussion

2946
02:00:27,840 --> 02:00:30,159
>> because without fund balance to buy down

2947
02:00:30,159 --> 02:00:32,239
the tax rate. We know that we have

2948
02:00:32,239 --> 02:00:35,520
contractual obligations for um uh

2949
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:37,599
raises. We know that health insurance is

2950
02:00:37,599 --> 02:00:39,679
going to go up again. Um you guys are

2951
02:00:39,679 --> 02:00:41,280
going to be looking at tax increases

2952
02:00:41,280 --> 02:00:43,520
next year that you probably never heard

2953
02:00:43,520 --> 02:00:45,360
of, thought about and certainly don't

2954
02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:48,320
want to see. Any other questions?

2955
02:00:48,320 --> 02:00:49,520
Christie.

2956
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:54,159
>> Um, so as Drew just mentioned, there was a great meeting that they had

2957
02:00:54,159 --> 02:00:57,440
a few weeks ago. Did a great job giving

2958
02:00:57,440 --> 02:01:00,719
us all of these details and even more

2959
02:01:00,719 --> 02:01:02,560
details at that meeting and we had there

2960
02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:04,080
was about 20 people there. We had a

2961
02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:06,800
great discussion about all of this. We

2962
02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:08,239
really encourage everybody to get

2963
02:01:08,239 --> 02:01:10,880
involved. Reach out to through Dana and

2964
02:01:10,880 --> 02:01:12,800
get that information. It is really

2965
02:01:12,800 --> 02:01:15,440
important right now. And if you're not

2966
02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:17,760
following all of this, you you really

2967
02:01:17,760 --> 02:01:19,199
need to start. And it's going to affect

2968
02:01:19,199 --> 02:01:22,159
our town a lot more than, you know,

2969
02:01:22,159 --> 02:01:26,480
Burlington and Warner Town. Um, a few

2970
02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:28,159
friends of mine and I got together and

2971
02:01:28,159 --> 02:01:30,560
started a Facebook page. It's called

2972
02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:33,199
Southern Vermont and Rural Communities

2973
02:01:33,199 --> 02:01:36,960
School Forum. And we're not giving sides

2974
02:01:36,960 --> 02:01:38,400
there on any of this, but we're just

2975
02:01:38,400 --> 02:01:40,080
getting information out. We're we're

2976
02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:42,639
sharing news articles. for sharing

2977
02:01:42,639 --> 02:01:45,840
snippets of the legislative meetings. Um

2978
02:01:45,840 --> 02:01:47,440
there's there's people behind this page

2979
02:01:47,440 --> 02:01:49,760
that are doing a lot of the research for

2980
02:01:49,760 --> 02:01:51,599
everybody so that we can make it easy

2981
02:01:51,599 --> 02:01:55,199
for people to stay involved and stay um

2982
02:01:55,199 --> 02:01:57,520
up to speed on what's going on. So if

2983
02:01:57,520 --> 02:02:00,800
you want to join that page um you know

2984
02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:02,400
we try to do the work for you and keep

2985
02:02:02,400 --> 02:02:05,280
everybody.

2986
02:02:05,280 --> 02:02:07,199
>> Thank you. Any other questions for Drew

2987
02:02:07,199 --> 02:02:09,360
and Dana?

2988
02:02:09,360 --> 02:02:10,080
Sue,

2989
02:02:10,080 --> 02:02:12,880
>> you mentioned that the supervisory

2990
02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:18,560
union's budget is a handsoff thing. How do we change that? They they seem to

2991
02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:22,400
be getting um a helper for helper of an

2992
02:02:22,400 --> 02:02:24,320
for an assistant for an assistant. They

2993
02:02:24,320 --> 02:02:27,599
seem they seem to be making up positions

2994
02:02:27,599 --> 02:02:29,440
to fill it and there's nothing we can

2995
02:02:29,440 --> 02:02:32,800
do. So, we're having to cut programs and

2996
02:02:32,800 --> 02:02:35,520
they're they're adding staff. Okay. Um,

2997
02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:37,760
so we're taking away from the kids,

2998
02:02:37,760 --> 02:02:40,400
which is the purpose of them. How how do

2999
02:02:40,400 --> 02:02:43,840
we how do how do you how do we fix that?

3000
02:02:43,840 --> 02:02:45,599
Is that what's done all over the state?

3001
02:02:45,599 --> 02:02:48,639
Is that is their budget put into it and

3002
02:02:48,639 --> 02:02:52,639
voted on by the super board prior to

3003
02:02:52,639 --> 02:02:55,599
anything so that nobody can touch it?

3004
02:02:55,599 --> 02:02:58,000
>> So, um, our district runs the same as it

3005
02:02:58,000 --> 02:02:59,679
does everywhere in the state. So, what

3006
02:02:59,679 --> 02:03:03,040
we're doing here is consistent. Um, so

3007
02:03:03,040 --> 02:03:05,520
the supervisory union budget is voted on

3008
02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:08,960
by representatives from each of the uh

3009
02:03:08,960 --> 02:03:11,840
school boards. So I do sit on the super

3010
02:03:11,840 --> 02:03:13,920
advisory union board and anybody that's

3011
02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:15,440
watched the meeting knows I voted

3012
02:03:15,440 --> 02:03:18,960
against the budget um and for many many

3013
02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:22,320
reasons. Um and the major reason was

3014
02:03:22,320 --> 02:03:25,199
that we were the budget was introduced

3015
02:03:25,199 --> 02:03:29,040
to us um and they called a vote on it in

3016
02:03:29,040 --> 02:03:30,800
less than an hour.

3017
02:03:30,800 --> 02:03:32,400
um without explaining what they were

3018
02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:34,000
spending the money on, which is

3019
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:36,639
obviously why I had to express my

3020
02:03:36,639 --> 02:03:40,320
opposition to it and vote against it. Um

3021
02:03:40,320 --> 02:03:42,480
there's a lot of things that the state

3022
02:03:42,480 --> 02:03:44,239
has mandated have to be in the

3023
02:03:44,239 --> 02:03:46,480
superintendent's budget. Um the largest

3024
02:03:46,480 --> 02:03:49,280
one being special education. So that

3025
02:03:49,280 --> 02:03:51,040
used to show up in a local budget so we

3026
02:03:51,040 --> 02:03:52,320
could see how that money was being

3027
02:03:52,320 --> 02:03:54,800
spent. Now it's lumped together for the

3028
02:03:54,800 --> 02:03:57,360
entire SU and we are a portioned chunk

3029
02:03:57,360 --> 02:04:00,400
of it. So, we have no idea whether that

3030
02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:03,840
money is being used to educate our kids

3031
02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:06,639
or somebody else's kids. Um, and and

3032
02:04:06,639 --> 02:04:08,560
again, that's a legislative mandate that

3033
02:04:08,560 --> 02:04:11,520
it has to be done that way. Um, I think

3034
02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:13,840
part of what this redistricting and

3035
02:04:13,840 --> 02:04:16,639
mapping is about is trying to shrink

3036
02:04:16,639 --> 02:04:18,800
some of that supervisory structure.

3037
02:04:18,800 --> 02:04:20,480
We've got four superintendents in

3038
02:04:20,480 --> 02:04:23,520
Windham County. Um, and again, the

3039
02:04:23,520 --> 02:04:26,400
superintendent's offices are they're

3040
02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:29,199
very well- paid positions. Um, far

3041
02:04:29,199 --> 02:04:30,560
better paid than the teaching staff

3042
02:04:30,560 --> 02:04:35,440
positions in in most cases. And we have

3043
02:04:35,440 --> 02:04:37,360
um a lot of that administrative overhead

3044
02:04:37,360 --> 02:04:40,320
is coming down to um our local. So, just

3045
02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:43,199
to put it in perspective, there are 89

3046
02:04:43,199 --> 02:04:45,760
full-time employees at the supervisory

3047
02:04:45,760 --> 02:04:50,480
level um in our district. Those are

3048
02:04:50,480 --> 02:04:50,880
teachers

3049
02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:52,960
>> super they are not teachers teachers.

3050
02:04:52,960 --> 02:04:55,440
>> Um now some of those provide teaching

3051
02:04:55,440 --> 02:04:56,960
staff. So some of those are special

3052
02:04:56,960 --> 02:04:59,360
educators but those are not the

3053
02:04:59,360 --> 02:05:01,360
classroom teachers. U the classroom

3054
02:05:01,360 --> 02:05:02,960
teachers and the principles of the

3055
02:05:02,960 --> 02:05:04,639
building are in our local budget. That's

3056
02:05:04,639 --> 02:05:07,520
what you guys get to vote on on the

3057
02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:08,880
>> whatever date it is

3058
02:05:08,880 --> 02:05:10,159
>> of the eth.

3059
02:05:10,159 --> 02:05:11,679
>> You guys get to vote on on the local

3060
02:05:11,679 --> 02:05:13,440
budget on the 8th. Able

3061
02:05:13,440 --> 02:05:17,679
>> uh Able, which is the local teachers and

3062
02:05:17,679 --> 02:05:19,040
the principles that are in the local

3063
02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:21,679
building. Uh the assessment we have to

3064
02:05:21,679 --> 02:05:25,030
pay regardless,

3065
02:05:25,040 --> 02:05:27,679
» right? Any other questions? Any for

3066
02:05:27,679 --> 02:05:29,360
them? Thank you guys so much for for

3067
02:05:29,360 --> 02:05:35,589
talking about that.

3068
02:05:35,599 --> 02:05:37,199
Any other business to bring before the

3069
02:05:37,199 --> 02:05:41,520
body? And just remind our paperots to

3070
02:05:41,520 --> 02:05:42,480
just hand those back.

3071
02:05:42,480 --> 02:05:43,599
>> Yeah, bring them back. Just send them

3072
02:05:43,599 --> 02:05:46,880
over to Aaron and Heather. Thank you.

3073
02:05:46,880 --> 02:05:49,599
>> Um, so I I I'm going to entertain a

3074
02:05:49,599 --> 02:05:54,310
motion to close article nine.

3075
02:05:54,320 --> 02:05:58,159
» Moved by Greg Jolly. Seconded.

3076
02:05:58,159 --> 02:05:59,520
>> You seconded. I'm sorry.

3077
02:05:59,520 --> 02:06:00,560
>> Yes,

3078
02:06:00,560 --> 02:06:03,040
>> Peter. Um, all in favor of closing

3079
02:06:03,040 --> 02:06:04,239
article 9,

3080
02:06:04,239 --> 02:06:07,280
>> I uh article or article eight rather.

3081
02:06:07,280 --> 02:06:09,119
Article 9. Uh, can I get a motion to

3082
02:06:09,119 --> 02:06:11,119
adjurnn?

3083
02:06:11,119 --> 02:06:15,199
>> Greg Jolly Peter second. Closing the

3084
02:06:15,199 --> 02:06:18,719
question. All in favor of adjourning. I

3085
02:06:18,719 --> 02:06:20,560
>> meeting's closed.

3086
02:06:20,560 --> 02:06:24,040
>> Excellent discussion.