1 00:05:49,840 --> 00:06:18,820 Call this meeting to James City, County Board, Sioux, Vice-Regular, meeting to order on October 24, 20, 23 at 1 p.m. Mr. Stevens, if you call the roll, please, sir. Mr. Sadler? Here. Mr. Eisenhower? Here. Mr. Mugletta? Here. Mr. Hibble? Here. I'll present. I need a motion to amend the agenda to remove the first closed session. Item, regarding the Williamsburg Regional Library and a motion to change the adjournment to a continuous of a meeting due to board members attending at the Vaco Annual Conference. So moved. 2 00:06:18,820 --> 00:06:21,340 motion roll call, please, sir. 3 00:06:21,540 --> 00:06:21,960 Is Sadler? 4 00:06:22,420 --> 00:06:22,580 Aye. 5 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:23,340 Stryce Howard? 6 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:23,640 Aye. 7 00:06:23,820 --> 00:06:24,320 Mr. McLennan? 8 00:06:24,380 --> 00:06:24,520 Aye. 9 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:25,140 Ms. Larson? 10 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:25,520 Aye. 11 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:26,020 Stryce Howard? 12 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:26,540 Aye. 13 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:27,520 All right. 14 00:06:27,660 --> 00:06:28,940 Next, I'll go on our presentations. 15 00:06:29,180 --> 00:06:29,400 V.D.A. 16 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:29,840 Cordley? 17 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:30,740 Mr. Carol. 18 00:06:33,810 --> 00:06:35,170 Good afternoon, Chairman Hepple. 19 00:06:35,470 --> 00:06:36,790 Other distinguished members of the board. 20 00:06:37,630 --> 00:06:41,090 Appreciate you having me here for the V.D.A. cordley translation update. 21 00:06:42,010 --> 00:06:45,290 This quarter goes from July 1st to September 30th. 22 00:06:45,290 --> 00:06:58,610 In that timeframe, we have had 655 work orders, we've completed 568 of those for a 87 or 86% completion rate. 23 00:06:59,410 --> 00:07:13,410 A couple of highlights for the quarter, we've done a lot of DI and drainage repairs, ditching, some pothole, some sweeping, roadway patching, and working a lot of work out on Route 60. 24 00:07:13,410 --> 00:07:18,450 And I'll get to that a little bit between Anderson's corner and New King County line. 25 00:07:19,130 --> 00:07:29,290 We've issued the notice proceed for the final mowing and litter pickup for the county October the 30th, and that'll be primary and secondary roads. 26 00:07:29,290 --> 00:07:33,830 That'll be the last one until next year's schedule starts. 27 00:07:37,110 --> 00:07:44,630 Current projects, we have ACIP project for Long Hill, well, I'm sorry, Hitzgard Rail contract. 28 00:07:45,250 --> 00:07:51,570 The contractor has completed 583 of 596 identified hits within the county. 29 00:07:53,030 --> 00:08:00,330 Richmond Road, Bike Pass, sidewalk improvements, that project is currently under construction. 30 00:08:00,870 --> 00:08:04,950 with a fixed completion date of November 31st, 2024. 31 00:08:06,350 --> 00:08:12,990 We have the latex modified seal, and I listed the routes out for that, but that project 32 00:08:12,990 --> 00:08:13,590 is complete. 33 00:08:15,150 --> 00:08:19,370 The fixed completion date was 1022, but we finished about a month early. 34 00:08:21,390 --> 00:08:26,130 We also have the PM5E plant mix schedule, which is ongoing right now. 35 00:08:26,130 --> 00:08:29,430 they are over on forge, riverside, 36 00:08:29,730 --> 00:08:30,990 I ask them out that way. 37 00:08:32,250 --> 00:08:34,410 They will be doing that section of airport 38 00:08:34,410 --> 00:08:35,370 that's in the county. 39 00:08:35,710 --> 00:08:42,190 And then they'll also be doing Route 60 Eastbound and Westbound 40 00:08:42,190 --> 00:08:47,110 from like Lightfoot to the Williamsburg City Limits. 41 00:08:47,990 --> 00:08:49,590 Change town Williamsburg City Limits. 42 00:08:51,690 --> 00:09:06,780 They've completed O-town paving and they have completed one other section but they're 43 00:09:06,780 --> 00:09:13,580 moving their fixed completion date is November the 22nd so they have a lot of work to 44 00:09:13,580 --> 00:09:15,980 do between now and then but they're pushing to get it done. 45 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,640 Bridge replacement on Diasco's Creek, that project is going really well. 46 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:29,880 The temporary bridge is put up, so the traffic could get around, the contractor is currently 47 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,660 placing boarded slabs in the new bridge deck. 48 00:09:33,500 --> 00:09:41,280 The project is currently ahead of schedule, so I'm hoping by early next year will be complete 49 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,200 done over there. 50 00:09:43,340 --> 00:09:49,760 Route 60 between Route 30 and New Kent line, project scheduled to replace four cross drains 51 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:56,700 and 11 drainage pipes planned to get lined. 52 00:09:57,860 --> 00:10:03,280 And this is, I'll talk about this in a little bit, but this is pre-work, a contract for 53 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:12,120 pre-work, before a project next summer to actually pave both eastbound and westbound 54 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,700 of 60 from Anderson's corner to the New Kent line. And I'll talk about that in a little 55 00:10:16,700 --> 00:10:19,480 bit more detail as we move along. 56 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,560 And that project has been awarded. They should start 57 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:33,820 in about three weeks, I think. We had a meeting out there today to review the pipes. 58 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:42,020 Some of the completed jobs route one in and ramp tree and brush removal route six, 14 sidewalk 59 00:10:42,020 --> 00:10:45,480 walk repair, Long Hill road widening, Old Town road, 60 00:10:45,860 --> 00:10:47,420 turn lanes, gift creek connector, 61 00:10:48,380 --> 00:10:49,800 the two on a sidewalks, 62 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,440 one A9 East and West retaining wall project, 63 00:10:53,220 --> 00:10:55,640 and bridge repair patching waterproofing epoxy 64 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,280 on Monticello, one A9 and 31. 65 00:11:00,380 --> 00:11:03,380 Some upcoming projects, we have the smart scale, 66 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,020 Long Hill road shared use path. 67 00:11:05,970 --> 00:11:11,200 That has an advertisement for February 13th, 2024. 68 00:11:12,020 --> 00:11:32,460 We just advertised last month the Croaker Road for late widening between the library and Route 60, and bids are due on the 25th, and we have the Pocahontas Trail Reconstruction Phase 1, and that is looking at February of 2026 to be advertised. 69 00:11:32,460 --> 00:11:34,420 A couple other things in the works, 70 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,000 a changed town, transfer bridge replacement. 71 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,200 That has been awarded, 72 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,140 but with some restriction time restrictions, 73 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:44,500 they haven't started that yet. 74 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:49,260 We also have an HZIP project on 612 Long Hill 75 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:50,720 that has been awarded. 76 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,740 We also have a full depth reclamation project 77 00:11:53,740 --> 00:11:57,220 for Kingswood, which was advertised today. 78 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,240 And that is a full depth reclamation 79 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:05,900 where they go in, take up the pavement, refurbish it, treat it, and then pave over top of it. 80 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:13,640 And then the PM5E project for James City County, which is our paving asphalt paving for 81 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:19,520 next 2024, goes to add next month, 11-9. 82 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,540 I'm not going to go through them all, but in your packet, 83 00:12:24,780 --> 00:12:28,900 I have the routes, the proposed routes that are being the contract for next summer's paving. 84 00:12:28,900 --> 00:12:36,180 It's a fairly large list for James City County about twice the amount of what we had this summer. 85 00:12:36,460 --> 00:12:45,520 So a lot of it is high volume secondaries, high volume primaries, but good to get them paved. 86 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:57,900 We do have the, I call it the Gap C Design Bill project. At the back of your pages there's a 87 00:12:57,900 --> 00:13:06,040 detail but we had the public hearing on August 24th for that and the schedule is listed. 88 00:13:06,620 --> 00:13:11,240 Next thing will be the request for proposals fall of 2023. 89 00:13:13,500 --> 00:13:20,540 We also have the, this was the project that I was talking about, the route 60 concrete overlay, 90 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,240 unbonded concrete overlay. 91 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:27,160 So it's our we're putting the project together for Route 60 from Anderson's 92 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:32,000 corner out to the New Kent line. Part of that is concrete, part of its asphalt 93 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:37,220 in each direction east and west. We have putting a project together to advertise 94 00:13:37,220 --> 00:13:43,820 first of the year for paving the start next summer to do a seven-inch 95 00:13:43,820 --> 00:13:50,040 unbonded concrete overlay for each direction Route 60 all four lanes. This will 96 00:13:50,040 --> 00:14:05,460 change the elevations so we'll be some shoulder work, some drainage work, all that stuff is part of the project and the maintenance of traffic is certainly part of that project as well but it's good to get that project finally push forward. 97 00:14:06,780 --> 00:14:16,680 FY 24 County Safety Projects, we did the Old Town Road, ADA Compliance Sidewalk Repairs, the New Town ADA Compliance Sidewalk Repairs. 98 00:14:16,680 --> 00:14:20,460 We did the Route 199 tree trimming and sign day lighting. 99 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,600 I don't know if y'all seen that, but we've opened up so you can seal signs and all that stuff. 100 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,640 A lot better on 199. 101 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,440 And then Governor's Land DI and curb repairs. 102 00:14:30,900 --> 00:14:38,420 FY24 plan, we're looking at the Route 5, 614, or either the Route 3746, no left turn project. 103 00:14:38,660 --> 00:14:40,560 Couple with the secondary six-year plan. 104 00:14:41,300 --> 00:14:45,020 And then we have some work that's on our list for Firmbrook pipe repairs. 105 00:14:47,060 --> 00:14:51,520 There's a list of traffic studies in your packet, but I'm just going to go over a couple 106 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,180 that I think are important to address. 107 00:14:55,180 --> 00:14:59,960 So, speed study on Route 615, Arrambound Road, we will be reducing- 108 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,980 I'm using the speed limit from news road to, I call it the foxes, which has just passed the plantation, you know, or the, what is that called? The Powhatan plantation. So just passed Powhatan plantation. Currently it's at 45 miles per hour. But with the increase of pedestrian traffic around veterans park. A lot of traffic in and out of that area. And the 85th percentile is actually reduced since the last time. 109 00:15:29,980 --> 00:15:33,160 and we did the speed study for Ironbound Road. 110 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,180 We're reducing that from 45 to 40 miles an hour 111 00:15:36,180 --> 00:15:36,920 through that section. 112 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:40,800 Another one I would like to bring, 113 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,340 use right lane only in route 60, 114 00:15:43,460 --> 00:15:45,100 so we're putting up some signage out there 115 00:15:45,100 --> 00:15:46,660 on route 60 as you go into Bush Gardens 116 00:15:46,660 --> 00:15:47,660 about through traffic, 117 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:49,920 making sure that Bush Gardens traffic sticks 118 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,260 to the right around McLaughlin Circle, all that area. 119 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,160 So it doesn't bottleneck route 60 through that area. 120 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:01,240 and then the route 199 and 132 South Hensley Street. 121 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,200 We did the intersection safety study. 122 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:11,120 There was an accident there involving a school bus that kind of triggered this. 123 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:21,020 Our traffic engineers came up with a recommendation to put up some warning signs 124 00:16:21,020 --> 00:16:26,220 and also to put up some rumble strips out there. 125 00:16:26,500 --> 00:16:31,620 So the closest was Kingswood, Kings Point. 126 00:16:32,380 --> 00:16:32,840 Kings Point. 127 00:16:33,020 --> 00:16:36,740 So I talked to the Jouet, I had them do a survey. 128 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,640 So we were looking at other options versus a rumble strip 129 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:43,500 out on 199. 130 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,680 The option that we were looking at was doing some flashing lights, 131 00:16:48,680 --> 00:17:06,460 intersection ahead type thing, but we don't have electricity in the area, and the area is not good, we've done the 34 solar, so we're still looking at that, but we are adding the flags to the eastbound advanced warning traffic signal head signs that are there. 132 00:17:16,990 --> 00:17:31,070 We've issued 55 land use permits and we have closed 115 which is the first time that 133 00:17:31,070 --> 00:17:33,710 I've ever set up here and said we've closed more than we've issued. 134 00:17:33,710 --> 00:17:38,890 and that was because we held off from issuing any until we got some of these 135 00:17:38,890 --> 00:17:45,530 outstanding permits taken care of. There is a lot of utility work going on in 136 00:17:45,530 --> 00:17:52,070 the county, a lot of fiber work, so just keep your eyes open when you're traveling, 137 00:17:52,190 --> 00:17:59,570 but there's a lot of work going on currently in James City. The last thing I'll 138 00:17:59,570 --> 00:18:05,670 kind of go over the gap project, it's nine miles, I-64 roadway widening and pavement rehabilitation. 139 00:18:06,390 --> 00:18:13,690 It does have two bridges that will be widened and rehabbed, paving the light foot parking 140 00:18:13,690 --> 00:18:15,290 ride lot as part of that as well. 141 00:18:16,490 --> 00:18:20,970 The overhead signage and ITS systems for that section are in part of the scope. 142 00:18:21,650 --> 00:18:27,450 We will help sound wall barriers, retaining walls, and storm drainage box covers and pipes. 143 00:18:30,900 --> 00:18:33,920 And that concludes my presentation. 144 00:18:34,300 --> 00:18:37,260 If anyone has any questions or comments, I'd love to take them. 145 00:18:38,860 --> 00:18:39,400 Yeah, please. 146 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:40,440 Hi, Rosy. 147 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:41,220 Thanks for being here. 148 00:18:41,340 --> 00:18:41,940 Appreciate it. 149 00:18:42,140 --> 00:18:46,940 As I mentioned to you in the hall, it was requested by my grandchildren to please make 150 00:18:46,940 --> 00:18:51,740 sure that there's shrubs coming out of the woods going across Long Hill into Long Hill Gate 151 00:18:51,740 --> 00:18:52,320 or trimmed. 152 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:57,600 But on the other side, I believe it's the county's responsibility, so I'll take a look at it. 153 00:18:57,820 --> 00:18:58,540 Okay, thank you. 154 00:18:58,740 --> 00:18:59,740 Appreciate it. 155 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,240 Just want my grandkids and others to be able to seek it out of there. 156 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:04,280 Everyone everybody be safe. 157 00:19:04,380 --> 00:19:04,740 There you go. 158 00:19:05,260 --> 00:19:12,220 And also, I, this is on Long Hill as well, somebody mentioned to me that in the round about that 159 00:19:12,220 --> 00:19:17,120 the greenery was getting kind of high and it was in pairing visibility through there. 160 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:21,760 So if you could just trim that down, appreciate it. 161 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:22,680 That's it, thanks. 162 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:35,570 I just want to do send my thanks on behalf of the residents of the Meadows for the adjustments 163 00:19:35,570 --> 00:19:39,730 of the speed and the next veterans park in that area there. 164 00:19:39,850 --> 00:19:43,030 I think it's definitely warranted, too. 165 00:19:43,550 --> 00:19:47,770 Yeah, and there's been a lot of, it's been an uptick of vehicles in and out of that park. 166 00:19:47,770 --> 00:19:58,690 We have some leagues that go on there now, and I've noticed a lot plus the tourist traffic that goes through there as well. 167 00:19:59,490 --> 00:20:05,730 So hopefully it'll make it a little bit safer, and we have that mid block, or it's not really a mid block. 168 00:20:05,890 --> 00:20:11,470 We have that pedestrian crossing right here as well, so hopefully it'll make it a little bit safer for everyone. 169 00:20:12,090 --> 00:20:12,290 Thank you. 170 00:20:13,150 --> 00:20:30,070 And I'll start off with some thanks as well thanks for the work that was done at the intersection of Ron Springs Drive and McGrooter in Grove where there was some challenge in terms of visibility line of sight at that intersection. 171 00:20:31,410 --> 00:20:38,110 And thanks for doing everything you can to move along some of these projects and some repaving. 172 00:20:38,930 --> 00:20:57,510 Despite that very long list, the list of places that really need it is even longer, as you know, and it would be nice to be able to meet most of those needs in a timely fashion, but I know the fiscal realities of the situation are tough. 173 00:20:57,510 --> 00:21:03,210 I had a chance to chat with you before the meeting about a couple of intersections where 174 00:21:03,210 --> 00:21:11,270 folks have been concerned about the tripping of the lights and in particular Brookwood 175 00:21:11,270 --> 00:21:15,370 199 and at King's Point driving 199. 176 00:21:16,310 --> 00:21:21,510 So both of those, I know you'll take a look and see what can happen there. 177 00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:32,810 And I just also wanted to get a sense of the contract, whether a contract has been awarded 178 00:21:32,810 --> 00:21:40,970 that included the work at Goodrich-Durphy in the vineyards where there's a problem 179 00:21:40,970 --> 00:21:41,830 with the- 180 00:21:41,830 --> 00:21:47,550 So the pipe contract that I was referencing, yes, we just awarded it. 181 00:21:47,550 --> 00:21:56,710 So I am using that pipe contract. It's for pipe replacement and pipe lining, which is what we're planning on doing at Goodwin Duffy. 182 00:21:57,490 --> 00:22:09,190 So next summer, let's start with this. That project, I'm using on Route 60 to start that for the unbonded concrete overlay. 183 00:22:09,190 --> 00:22:15,830 the second thing I have on there is the pipe over there to get it replaced and 184 00:22:15,830 --> 00:22:20,430 lined. So it is awarded, it's just not the first thing that I'm doing with 185 00:22:20,430 --> 00:22:25,250 that thing. So the route 60 work that I just alluded to, that is the first work 186 00:22:25,250 --> 00:22:29,710 that's still being done on that contract. We just met with the contractor today. 187 00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:35,730 And do you have a sense of when they might get to that? So there are, it's been 188 00:22:35,730 --> 00:22:42,090 four pipe replacements, complete replacements underneath the concrete or asphalt pavement and then there are 11 189 00:22:42,630 --> 00:22:49,050 cross-pipes that we are lining. I'm hoping that takes two and a half months for them to get all of that complete. 190 00:22:49,990 --> 00:22:55,650 It will probably be about three weeks before they start. You know, they have to, we've gone out and looked at those areas, 191 00:22:55,930 --> 00:22:58,870 they have to make sure they have all the materials in place for it. 192 00:23:00,130 --> 00:23:02,850 But after that, that is our next location. 193 00:23:03,170 --> 00:23:05,810 But yeah, we also, yeah, that answers it. 194 00:23:05,810 --> 00:23:07,350 And it will continue throughout the winter. 195 00:23:08,950 --> 00:23:10,250 It's not dependent on weather. 196 00:23:10,430 --> 00:23:10,750 It's not. 197 00:23:11,030 --> 00:23:11,150 Yeah. 198 00:23:11,490 --> 00:23:13,490 Yeah, that's one good thing about that. 199 00:23:13,590 --> 00:23:16,310 It's not something that we have to wait for 80 degree weather 200 00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:19,510 or something that nature like an asphalt or patching type thing. 201 00:23:20,230 --> 00:23:21,170 Well, thanks for everything you're doing. 202 00:23:21,470 --> 00:23:25,930 And we'll just keep on keeping on about the other projects 203 00:23:25,930 --> 00:23:29,690 and hope that we can shake some additional money that looks for you. 204 00:23:30,110 --> 00:23:30,330 Thank you. 205 00:23:31,950 --> 00:23:40,130 Thank you for the help with the trimming from when you are going out on to Route 5. 206 00:23:41,110 --> 00:23:46,130 And there were some trees planted for the capital trail beautification. 207 00:23:46,710 --> 00:23:52,570 I think that we're growing and impending the light of sight, excuse me. 208 00:23:54,270 --> 00:24:01,110 So it sounds like Ms. Saddler and I are going to have to do get out over which intersection 209 00:24:01,110 --> 00:24:09,350 gets some help if it's five and six Centerville or the intersection by her? 210 00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:14,530 Well, so we have both of them studied. 211 00:24:14,970 --> 00:24:18,590 We know there's a need at both of them, we want to move forward with both of them. 212 00:24:19,290 --> 00:24:20,870 It just comes down to funding. 213 00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:27,410 I don't have enough funding looking at county safety and secondary six-year plan. 214 00:24:27,910 --> 00:24:29,630 One's going to come before the other one. 215 00:24:32,130 --> 00:24:36,470 Unless there's additional money and then we can do all of it at the same time. 216 00:24:37,050 --> 00:24:38,870 But that's the plan. 217 00:24:39,170 --> 00:24:40,830 For county safety. 218 00:24:41,030 --> 00:24:47,750 There's other, there's other additional funding sources that may push one of them, you 219 00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:47,910 know. 220 00:24:49,050 --> 00:24:49,430 Okay. 221 00:24:49,430 --> 00:25:00,890 I did, and pardon my not remembering this, we had talked before about a possible crosswalk 222 00:25:00,890 --> 00:25:08,490 at Jamestown from Greensprings over to Jamestown High School. 223 00:25:08,770 --> 00:25:13,030 That is something that is going to happen at some point, right? 224 00:25:13,170 --> 00:25:14,210 I'm looking at all three. 225 00:25:14,210 --> 00:25:25,090 So we did study it, there needs to be some, I think the county is looking at putting some sidewalks to that location so we can put the crosswalk in that location. 226 00:25:25,330 --> 00:25:32,850 But currently right now, there's no facilities, pedestrian facilities that puts people across there. 227 00:25:33,170 --> 00:25:37,970 And once you cross route five, you're just sitting in the grass, there's nowhere to go. 228 00:25:38,410 --> 00:25:39,330 Okay, close on. 229 00:25:39,330 --> 00:25:44,370 So we've applied for that funding for our previous discussions with the board. 230 00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:49,370 We hopefully should know January, February, if we're awarded that funding from the state. 231 00:25:49,710 --> 00:25:54,030 Okay. Yeah, it just, I want to mention it just because it really worries me. 232 00:25:54,170 --> 00:25:57,570 It's students, it's people that are trying to get over to the trail. 233 00:25:58,250 --> 00:26:03,850 I see them dart out and it just, it just is really a great concern of mine. 234 00:26:03,850 --> 00:26:08,410 So I thought we had done something about trying to get, but I just wanted to get an update. 235 00:26:08,410 --> 00:26:09,450 So, all right. 236 00:26:09,510 --> 00:26:10,110 We're waiting to hear. 237 00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:10,870 Thank you. 238 00:26:11,770 --> 00:26:18,710 And then I, of course, appreciate everything V. Does, but as you know, I have many drainage 239 00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:25,510 issues in the Berkeley District that for one reason or another, cannot be fully addressed 240 00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:30,730 and so I just feel like I need to continue to put a plug in for that as we move forward that 241 00:26:30,730 --> 00:26:32,930 someday we might be able to get them addressed. 242 00:26:33,570 --> 00:26:34,510 So, thank you. 243 00:26:34,930 --> 00:26:35,310 Welcome. 244 00:26:35,310 --> 00:26:42,590 All right. Just a couple of things. Um, the light right at Harris teeter just after on 245 00:26:42,590 --> 00:26:48,790 Harris teeter and Route 60. If you're coming out of Harris teeter, it's, it's very quick. 246 00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:56,330 And it backs up into the roundabout. And so it does give enough time to get enough vehicles out 247 00:26:56,330 --> 00:27:02,230 on the 60 before it starts backing up in the roundabout and that locks that entire area up. 248 00:27:02,230 --> 00:27:11,410 If you could look at maybe like them, yeah, we'll look at the tree term trimming work down from fordrow down the Haven 249 00:27:11,410 --> 00:27:12,090 Thank you for that 250 00:27:12,730 --> 00:27:19,050 Got a lot of good reports on that and looks really good and gets everything out of the way there and then the 251 00:27:19,050 --> 00:27:24,790 As you and I talked before the meeting the little bump as we come out of new kin in the James City County 252 00:27:24,790 --> 00:27:27,330 But that'll be addressed once we put it away 253 00:27:27,330 --> 00:27:28,870 But I'll look at that before that 254 00:27:28,870 --> 00:27:32,310 I mean, it'll be next summer before that project's kicking off. 255 00:27:32,770 --> 00:27:38,630 Okay, and you know that that's going to be a good project for the entire region 256 00:27:38,630 --> 00:27:42,730 because that road floods, you wouldn't think that road floods that much, 257 00:27:42,730 --> 00:27:47,550 but there'll be standard water all the way across that road and a good rain storm. 258 00:27:47,550 --> 00:27:53,090 And so lifting it seven inches will definitely and get and agree and get those 259 00:27:53,090 --> 00:27:56,050 ditches where you need to be. It'll be a blessing for everybody up there. 260 00:27:56,050 --> 00:27:56,570 All right, thank you. 261 00:27:56,770 --> 00:27:57,310 Appreciate that. 262 00:27:57,670 --> 00:27:58,490 Any other questions? 263 00:27:59,890 --> 00:28:00,830 Thank you, sir. 264 00:28:01,030 --> 00:28:01,290 Thank you. 265 00:28:01,410 --> 00:28:01,830 Thanks for your time. 266 00:28:02,230 --> 00:28:02,510 Thank you. 267 00:28:03,230 --> 00:28:04,010 All right. 268 00:28:04,190 --> 00:28:06,510 Next, we'll move into the consent calendar. 269 00:28:06,710 --> 00:28:07,590 Days consent now. 270 00:28:07,730 --> 00:28:12,650 Calendar consists of the Dopsons of the James City County Emergency Operating Plan 2023. 271 00:28:13,450 --> 00:28:17,130 Contract award annual building envelope technical support service. 272 00:28:17,650 --> 00:28:24,450 Contract award for 139,990 court support building roof replacement. 273 00:28:24,450 --> 00:28:34,010 contract award 100 and 100, 910 James City County Fire Station, number two, Roof Replacement, 274 00:28:34,530 --> 00:28:40,930 Dedication of Streets and Section 5 of the Forest Glen subdivision, Establishment of New 275 00:28:40,930 --> 00:28:50,490 Positions, Grant Award of 12,236, Fiscal Year 2023, Edward Bryan Memorial Justice Assistant 276 00:28:50,490 --> 00:29:05,470 grant, grant award for 7,834 for forced subsidy fund, leave payout, minutes adoption and the 2023 scattered site community development grant. 277 00:29:06,050 --> 00:29:09,230 Are there any items anyone wishes to pull or may I have a motion? 278 00:29:10,450 --> 00:29:11,930 Move the adoption of the consent calendar. 279 00:29:12,310 --> 00:29:13,670 Thank you, roll call, please sir. 280 00:29:14,130 --> 00:29:14,570 Sadler? 281 00:29:14,730 --> 00:29:14,830 Aye. 282 00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:15,710 Mr. Arseneur? 283 00:29:15,770 --> 00:29:15,890 Aye. 284 00:29:16,230 --> 00:29:16,730 Mr. McLennan? 285 00:29:16,830 --> 00:29:16,930 Aye. 286 00:29:17,290 --> 00:29:17,670 Mr. Larson? 287 00:29:17,910 --> 00:29:18,070 Aye. 288 00:29:18,330 --> 00:29:18,750 Mr. Hippell? 289 00:29:19,010 --> 00:29:19,170 Aye. 290 00:29:19,170 --> 00:29:27,290 All right, more discussions fiscal update 2023 year end and 2020 for for quarter. 291 00:29:28,110 --> 00:29:28,750 Welcome. 292 00:29:29,190 --> 00:29:30,110 Thank you. 293 00:29:30,450 --> 00:29:34,890 Chairman, members of the board, good afternoon, I'm Cheryl Holland, I'm the budget manager 294 00:29:34,890 --> 00:29:40,250 for the county, and today I'll provide updates on the county's finances for FY23 which 295 00:29:40,250 --> 00:29:46,130 ended June 30th, as well as the first quarter of FY24 which ended on September 30th. 296 00:29:46,130 --> 00:29:53,890 This presentation will only focus on the general fund, so we won't be going over CIP, ARPA, or other grant-related funds 297 00:29:53,890 --> 00:29:59,930 which exist outside of the county's normal operating activities. To start off with, we'll take a look 298 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,780 We look at county's general fund revenues for FY 23. 299 00:30:05,020 --> 00:30:31,140 Please, if it's forward, there we go. Please note, these figures are still considered preliminary until we complete our FY 23 financial statement audit in the next few months. Here, we presented budget and actual for FY 23 as well as the comparison to FY 22 actual revenue. General property taxes is our largest revenue source representing two-thirds. 300 00:30:31,140 --> 00:30:36,200 of total revenue. This category includes real estate and personal property taxes, and most 301 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:43,840 of the increase here was because FY23 was a reassessment year. Other local taxes include sales, 302 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:50,040 meals, and lodging taxes, as well as business license. This category as well as license permits 303 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:58,100 and fees experience slight increases for FY23. The decrease in use of money and property related to 304 00:30:58,100 --> 00:31:03,700 the sale of property where the county was a landlord during FY22, so we were no longer 305 00:31:03,700 --> 00:31:10,380 collecting that revenue in FY23. The increase in state and federal revenue primarily was due to 306 00:31:10,380 --> 00:31:15,540 increase in state funding to assist with law enforcement, recruitment and retention efforts, 307 00:31:15,820 --> 00:31:21,380 and the increase in charges for services was primarily due to increase use of parks and rec 308 00:31:21,380 --> 00:31:27,860 programs and facilities. The miscellaneous line item includes property sales that took place during 309 00:31:27,860 --> 00:31:32,760 each fiscal year, and those amounts were based on the various properties sold. 310 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,680 Lastly, on that fund balance line, you can see that the county used $14.4 million 311 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:44,120 of fund balance, having FY23, and this was for various purposes, including support of 312 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,720 the FY23 CIP and other one-time expenditures. 313 00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:54,060 Use of fund balance during FY22 was for similar initiatives, but we also used fund balance 314 00:31:54,060 --> 00:31:57,180 for the purchase of the courthouse green properties for $7 million. 315 00:31:58,260 --> 00:32:01,500 Because fund balance is not a recurring funding source, 316 00:32:01,820 --> 00:32:06,220 we provided a year-over-year comparison in red at the bottom of the screen. 317 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,940 That way you can see the overall growth in our recurring revenues 318 00:32:09,940 --> 00:32:14,320 of $15.2 million or roughly $6.9%. 319 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,140 Can I just stop on this one? 320 00:32:18,820 --> 00:32:22,120 Do you have a generalist? 321 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:27,520 first today, I know you might not have it right off the top of your head of the amount 322 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:35,440 of the increase in the property tax that was from new construction and like versus reassessment 323 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,440 of existing properties. 324 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:37,740 I would have to pull that. 325 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,320 I know we have those numbers, but I don't have them with me. 326 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,740 If you would mind saying that at some point. 327 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:51,780 And in addition, if we could get some information about the amount of the personal property 328 00:32:51,780 --> 00:32:56,540 tax, since we did take action this year on that front. 329 00:32:57,060 --> 00:33:01,860 Yes, and personal property tax, I'll note, has a calendar year impact. 330 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:09,520 So part of fiscal year 23 reflected that tax reduction, but the second half of FY23 was 331 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,960 back to the 100% assessment there. 332 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,300 I'll pull those numbers. 333 00:33:17,020 --> 00:33:17,280 Thank you. 334 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:17,980 Absolutely. 335 00:33:19,300 --> 00:33:24,000 Turning to the expenditure side, and again, based on preliminary unaudited figures, you 336 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,400 You can see that all departments finished the year under budget. 337 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,920 On this slide, please note to the actual column, it reflects both expenditures incurred as 338 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,420 well as purchase orders that were outstanding as of the end of the year. 339 00:33:35,980 --> 00:33:41,960 There were roughly 1.9 million of POs at the end of FY23, and those will carry forward 340 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,560 into FY24 so that the planned purchases can take place. 341 00:33:46,540 --> 00:33:51,180 Savings resulted in part due to vacancies during FY23, as well as purchases that were not 342 00:33:51,180 --> 00:33:55,340 made either due to supply chain issues or changing needs in departments. 343 00:33:56,500 --> 00:34:02,340 The surplus in the school division line reflects the school's year end savings for FY 23, 344 00:34:02,940 --> 00:34:08,100 of which the county's proportionate share was $8.7 million. Usually we would bring a resolution 345 00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:12,980 to the board at this time of year with the school's request on how to use that year end surplus, 346 00:34:13,540 --> 00:34:18,640 but we are operating under a new agreement as of this year. And as part of that agreement, 347 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:26,120 the county will retain 10% of the year end savings, and the remaining 90% will be committed back to the schools. 348 00:34:26,660 --> 00:34:29,600 We'll talk more about this on the next slide. 349 00:34:30,340 --> 00:34:36,600 Additional savings in the school division and transfers to other fund line items related to some debt service savings. 350 00:34:39,970 --> 00:34:44,770 This slide provides a quick recap of our preliminary FY23 numbers. 351 00:34:44,770 --> 00:34:52,530 Our FY22 ending unassigned fund balance was $65 million and we used roughly $1.5 million 352 00:34:52,530 --> 00:34:54,110 of that during FY23. 353 00:34:54,910 --> 00:35:00,150 Based on FY23 results so far, we will have a surplus in the general fund of roughly $36 million. 354 00:35:00,910 --> 00:35:04,150 However, some of that amount is already committed to specific purposes. 355 00:35:04,650 --> 00:35:11,850 As you can see on this slide, $3.4 million will go to debt service needs and $6.6 million 356 00:35:11,850 --> 00:35:21,990 will go towards upcoming CIP projects of that 8.7 million of school surplus from FY 237.8 million 357 00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:28,950 or 90 percent will go back to the schools per that new agreement we discussed. That leaves roughly 358 00:35:28,950 --> 00:35:36,730 18.3 million that will increase our county unassigned fund balance number. Our fiscal policies require 359 00:35:36,730 --> 00:35:50,570 that we maintain an unassigned fund balance of 15% of our general governmental expenditures prior to FY23 that percentage was 12% and that higher percentage means a higher dollar limit requirement. 360 00:35:51,430 --> 00:36:00,210 At the end of FY23, that fiscal policy would require roughly 42 million of unassigned fund balance to meet the 15% threshold. 361 00:36:00,210 --> 00:36:06,810 But based on the figures shown here, our balance will be roughly 81.7 million or approximately 362 00:36:06,810 --> 00:36:09,870 29 percent, so a very healthy reserve. 363 00:36:10,630 --> 00:36:15,310 Over the last few years, we've utilized fund balance for one-time expenditures, including 364 00:36:15,310 --> 00:36:17,110 using fund balance for CIP. 365 00:36:17,790 --> 00:36:23,130 We've avoided using fund balance for operational needs because those types of expenditures would 366 00:36:23,130 --> 00:36:27,850 be ongoing without an ongoing funding source, creating a budgetary imbalance. 367 00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:33,790 In recent years, due to inflation and economic uncertainties, we've budgeted conservatively 368 00:36:33,790 --> 00:36:35,090 and we've looked to find savings. 369 00:36:35,890 --> 00:36:38,690 And we've been fortunate to have positive year end results. 370 00:36:39,070 --> 00:36:43,830 Going forward, we need to continue to be strategic on how we use fund balance to help us maintain 371 00:36:43,830 --> 00:36:48,390 our strong financial position and help fund future significant expenditures. 372 00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:51,110 Now are there any questions on FY23? 373 00:36:51,110 --> 00:36:58,050 So, could you just get us a total of what we have given the schools? 374 00:36:59,190 --> 00:37:01,750 Would you be able to do just send that out? 375 00:37:02,050 --> 00:37:02,910 Yes, I can send that out. 376 00:37:03,030 --> 00:37:03,250 Okay. 377 00:37:03,790 --> 00:37:12,590 And then, probably a question for them, but if somebody could let me know, did they give 378 00:37:12,590 --> 00:37:13,830 a 7% increase? 379 00:37:14,470 --> 00:37:20,890 I've gotten a question on whether if they're going to see another, now that the state has 380 00:37:20,890 --> 00:37:26,990 come through with their budget or have they just given a 7% if somebody could just let me know that I'd appreciate it. 381 00:37:26,990 --> 00:37:31,390 I'll follow up on that. Thank you. Ms. Larson, I believe they did, but we will bear that for you. 382 00:37:31,730 --> 00:37:33,110 I think so, but thank you. 383 00:37:33,390 --> 00:37:39,150 And the designation of the money that was returned to the school's new purpose is that it's capital. 384 00:37:39,350 --> 00:37:48,670 Yeah. Per the new agreement, we're going to be using that as part of building FY25's budget. 385 00:37:48,670 --> 00:37:53,290 and so it will be, we'll discuss at that time whether or not it's going to go to capital or operating needs. 386 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:00,320 Thank you. 387 00:38:00,700 --> 00:38:04,240 Absolutely. Moving on to the first quarter of FY24. 388 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:18,460 Presented here are the annual budget and first three months of actual revenue for July through September of FY24, 389 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,920 compared to actuals for the same time period of FY23. 390 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:27,080 We're early in the fiscal year, so we haven't reached our main real estate or personal property tax due dates. 391 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:31,760 And some of the revenue we received during those first three months actually relate to the prior year. 392 00:38:31,940 --> 00:38:34,460 So we've had to accrue those numbers back to FY 23. 393 00:38:35,100 --> 00:38:41,180 This year over year information reflects those accrual adjustments for both years so that the numbers are comparable. 394 00:38:41,980 --> 00:38:44,300 Some of the differences shown here relate to timing. 395 00:38:44,660 --> 00:38:50,880 For example, we received one type of state payment for roughly 400,000 in the first quarter of FY 23, 396 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,340 but we didn't receive that same type of funds until October of this year. 397 00:38:55,340 --> 00:39:00,580 other differences relate to one time revenue. We sold a property during the first quarter 398 00:39:00,580 --> 00:39:05,740 of FY23 from 1.3 million and you can see that causing a difference in the miscellaneous 399 00:39:05,740 --> 00:39:10,880 line item. Lastly on the fund balance line you can see the county has used 10.6 million 400 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:17,180 of fund balance in FY24. That went towards support of FY24 CIP as well as outstanding 401 00:39:17,180 --> 00:39:23,620 purchase orders from FY23. Use of fund balance in FY23 was for similar initiatives during 402 00:39:23,620 --> 00:39:28,820 in the first quarter. The year-over-year change, in quarter one, excluding fund balance, 403 00:39:28,980 --> 00:39:33,020 again, is shown in red at the bottom of the screen, and the difference primarily relates 404 00:39:33,020 --> 00:39:36,180 to that one-time sale of property in the miscellaneous line item. 405 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,240 Switching gears to the expenditure 406 00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:49,020 side, this slide shows budget and actuals for the first quarter of FY24. Please note actuals 407 00:39:49,020 --> 00:39:55,080 includes both expenditures incurred as well as incumbrances. If all expenses came in evenly, 408 00:39:55,080 --> 00:40:00,040 you would expect to see about 25% of the budget use at this point in time. 409 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:07,120 Overall, though, we're at 30% with that last category of contributions and transfers skewing the overall percentage. 410 00:40:07,660 --> 00:40:09,480 We'll talk about specific departments next. 411 00:40:12,700 --> 00:40:21,100 This line graph reflects department spending in the blue line, as well as 25% benchmark in the green line. 412 00:40:21,540 --> 00:40:27,200 For those areas tracking above 25%, it's important to note that not all expenses are incurred, 413 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:32,400 evenly during the course of the fiscal year. For example, in financial administration we pay our 414 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:37,560 annual insurance premiums up front of the start of the year. In addition, our annual audit 415 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:44,000 occurs in the fall, so we are incurring those expenses early in the year. In IT, most of our equipment 416 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:49,060 maintenance and software contracts require payment and full start of the year, and that's why you'll 417 00:40:49,060 --> 00:40:55,340 see that department at 39 percent right now. Also, for parks and rec, their operations are seasonal, 418 00:40:55,340 --> 00:41:04,740 So they do incur a number of expenditures in the warmer months, so early on during the fiscal year, and that's why you'll see they are at 29%. 419 00:41:05,340 --> 00:41:12,940 Contributions and transfers, that category includes support to outside agencies, most of which receive their funding at the start of the year. 420 00:41:13,580 --> 00:41:17,380 This also includes our transfers to other funds, most of which we do in July. 421 00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:23,300 So again, that's why you see that particular item at 55%. 422 00:41:23,300 --> 00:41:28,740 Also, I'll note, again, these numbers included in Conferences and having those in Conferences 423 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,860 means that it can cause a higher trend here in their first quarter of the year because 424 00:41:33,860 --> 00:41:39,760 most of our purchase orders are issued at the beginning of the fiscal year and they impact 425 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:40,800 the budget at that time. 426 00:41:41,780 --> 00:41:45,760 Now these timing differences are normal and generally work themselves out during the course of the 427 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:46,300 fiscal year. 428 00:41:46,660 --> 00:41:51,320 FMS will continue to monitor the county's budget and will work with departments on any 429 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,640 areas that need to be addressed. 430 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,360 That concludes my remarks on FY 23 and the first quarter 431 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,240 of FY 24. I'm happy to respond to any questions. 432 00:42:02,060 --> 00:42:02,320 Questions? 433 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:11,960 I just had a quick question. So, I mean, I think that pretty good. I mean, 25, 29, but, 434 00:42:12,140 --> 00:42:22,200 you know, great presentation, by the way, thank you. But I'm curious, how, what does the 435 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:27,520 conversation look like with between you and say grace, do you deal with grace or do you 436 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:32,240 deal with someone in our office and you say, hey, this is where you're going, watch it 437 00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:37,480 or what's your typical conversation like with somebody when it comes to their expenditures? 438 00:42:38,380 --> 00:42:39,780 That's a great question. 439 00:42:40,220 --> 00:42:43,840 I know I work often with grace or her leadership team. 440 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,600 It depends on the particular division and what sort of expenditures we're seeing and what 441 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:53,520 areas may need to be addressed and whether funding maybe needs to shift from one line item to another. 442 00:42:54,180 --> 00:42:59,120 Sometimes it's not the overall division that needs to address something but maybe they 443 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:03,400 need to look at their spending in particular line items and also we can help them plan for 444 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:08,640 the next year. If they are seeing this as a recurring expenditure, how can we address it going forward? 445 00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:16,280 So one thing that's come out of this I guess is the we're in a healthy situation so we were 446 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:25,080 We're able to do those positions that had been requested that we had not been able to find that we just funded on our consent agenda that we're much needed. 447 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,640 Yes, Mr. Lars, on a couple of things, all of those positions were requested in the budget process. 448 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,940 We had had a major budget message is not being recommended for funding. 449 00:43:33,420 --> 00:43:36,940 They told we're not just under $2 million in terms of implementing them. 450 00:43:36,940 --> 00:43:39,540 That was some one time startup costs and other things related to those. 451 00:43:40,260 --> 00:43:45,920 So this year we are in this year trending well, but the bigger piece is we had satisfied an additional $2 million for 452 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,740 schools and our budget we approved close to 4 million for schools we set aside another 453 00:43:50,740 --> 00:43:54,980 two because the state hadn't adopted their budget and the state's adopted budget does 454 00:43:54,980 --> 00:43:59,460 provide additional funding to the school division and so it freed up that $2 million to go 455 00:43:59,460 --> 00:44:02,940 towards these recurring because it's not just this year trending well as Cheryl had mentioned 456 00:44:02,940 --> 00:44:10,100 this recurring expense on and on with full-time positions right and just to say in public what I 457 00:44:10,100 --> 00:44:15,120 said to you I think that those positions are needed I don't take an issue with that 458 00:44:16,060 --> 00:44:19,140 I do worry because we do lose people, do the compensation. 459 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:24,480 I know we're looking at doing a, but I am just a big believer on if you're going to do 460 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,420 a compensation study, you can't stick it on a shelf because then you're just doing another 461 00:44:28,420 --> 00:44:34,360 compensation study in another five years and you've done nothing for the compensation study 462 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,760 that you did five years prior. 463 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:41,160 And so we know that compensation is an issue and getting to be more of an issue nationwide. 464 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,760 So, but I do appreciate that you were able to do those positions. 465 00:44:46,380 --> 00:44:50,480 So, and I will tell you our departments just to, you know, they wanted to fill the vacancies. 466 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,400 They wanted to retain our staff and then this was really third priority. 467 00:44:53,500 --> 00:44:59,980 So it was the opportunity to bring it back to request because we are very aware of that ongoing cost and the need for compensation to match the surrounding location. 468 00:45:09,780 --> 00:45:29,960 Thank you. Any other questions? And we've even talked about that in the mayors and chairs, and across the region, you know, what's going on and what's driving some of this and trying to keep up. And every time one that's lagging behind comes up. The others pushed there. 469 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,900 up and so it's all it's a battle right now as far as you know and we're 470 00:45:34,900 --> 00:45:39,340 trending real well but we also got to realize that you know with the school 471 00:45:39,340 --> 00:45:45,560 issue and all that we may have a school build and a county complex and all 472 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:50,560 that and I know a lot of people will look at it and go well maybe we can you know 473 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:57,480 do a rebate on taxes or that's what I'm well just because we're we're doing 474 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:03,840 well and we've got all these other projects we hadn't anticipated that are coming up or we hadn't 475 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:10,440 anticipated that are now costing more than what they should cost. So I think we hold our course 476 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:17,220 and stay where we're at. I think we'll in the long run, service better as far as being able to 477 00:46:17,220 --> 00:46:24,480 have our employees more or our employees more be able to get everyone we need on deck. Also be able to 478 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:29,560 take care of the project we have and protect our triple bond rating and that's 479 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:34,880 really very important for our borrowing as we move forward. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 480 00:46:35,100 --> 00:46:40,480 In fact, I just add to that that I think an important point to underline is the 481 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,660 fact that a lot of the savings that we experienced last year were due to vacant 482 00:46:44,660 --> 00:46:50,860 positions and we have asked an awful lot of our current employees to pick up for 483 00:46:50,860 --> 00:46:55,940 We're folks who are not in those positions now. 484 00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:02,300 And so in the future, those will be ongoing costs when we're back to fully staffing. 485 00:47:02,620 --> 00:47:09,740 So this is sort of an opportunity to bank some of those resources in order to be prepared for 486 00:47:09,740 --> 00:47:20,180 what we need to deal with later on but we ought to recognize that those budgets were built around staffing at a level that was necessary for the provision of services. 487 00:47:20,180 --> 00:47:39,060 And I think too talking to some of our senior staff members, just going around and asking you know what's going on, what are you sitting, what are you sitting, and they're training people like they've always done, but used to be they stay longer. 488 00:47:39,060 --> 00:47:42,180 Now they're getting a nickel somewhere else and they're leaving. 489 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:48,300 So it's making our senior staff members go, just got that one training to where I need it. 490 00:47:48,380 --> 00:47:51,520 Now they moved over to here or left, I've got to train another one. 491 00:47:51,860 --> 00:47:53,580 So it's a burnout there as well. 492 00:47:54,060 --> 00:47:59,020 And I think that comes with what we're paying and what we have to look at as far as this study. 493 00:47:59,460 --> 00:48:06,360 We may have to come up even more in order to make sure that we're retaining these employees that are in that middle ground. 494 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:12,600 because our senior staff is we're wearing them down a little bit having to ask 495 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,240 them to do more training more people training you know why they're also trying to 496 00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:19,560 do their job so that's not a good scenario for our team. 497 00:48:22,380 --> 00:48:27,320 We'll follow up with those questions as well thank you thank you very much all 498 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:33,720 right next we'll do go into a text exemption requirements. Richard welcome sir 499 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,080 Thank 500 00:48:39,730 --> 00:48:40,090 you for coming. 501 00:48:41,090 --> 00:48:41,870 Good afternoon. 502 00:48:44,550 --> 00:48:50,190 Mr. Hippell, other members of the board, happy to be here to talk about something that works. 503 00:48:51,670 --> 00:48:55,690 Our real estate exemption program for elderly and disabled citizens. 504 00:48:56,330 --> 00:49:05,890 It is designed to assist those with limited incomes to remain in their homes without having 505 00:49:05,890 --> 00:49:09,170 to be overburdened by real estate taxes. 506 00:49:11,070 --> 00:49:13,090 That's the nature of the program, 507 00:49:13,990 --> 00:49:19,450 and we hope that we have assisted at least a few. 508 00:49:20,790 --> 00:49:26,750 I believe in your packet you had a historical record 509 00:49:26,750 --> 00:49:34,810 of what we've done for the past 24 years. 510 00:49:36,810 --> 00:49:46,230 And you can see how the exemptions, qualifications, and amounts have, well, I'm sorry, do you know? 511 00:49:46,430 --> 00:49:47,950 I don't think I didn't have an attachment. 512 00:49:48,330 --> 00:49:51,910 Ms. Lars, I believe we emailed it to your Friday versus attaching it to the agenda, so my fault 513 00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:52,670 I'm not having it there. 514 00:49:52,670 --> 00:49:53,130 That's okay. 515 00:49:53,510 --> 00:49:53,750 Go ahead. 516 00:49:54,030 --> 00:49:54,150 Sorry. 517 00:49:57,330 --> 00:50:00,030 But it shows the evolution of our program. 518 00:50:00,030 --> 00:50:11,910 from the year 2000, when the limit on income was at $22,500 for a household, assets other 519 00:50:11,910 --> 00:50:18,910 than their home were limited to $75,000, and the exemption amount was on the first $65,000 520 00:50:18,910 --> 00:50:29,570 of value. Currently, our income level for household income is $45,000, assets not including 521 00:50:29,570 --> 00:50:38,930 the home itself at $200,000 and the benefit is an exemption on the first $120,000 of value. 522 00:50:40,700 --> 00:50:47,540 We have always pegged our exemption on the value rather than a set dollar amount. 523 00:50:50,110 --> 00:50:50,570 The reason 524 00:50:50,570 --> 00:51:00,430 for us doing that became evident in between 2015 and 2016. We had no changes in the 525 00:51:00,430 --> 00:51:23,670 The value of the exemption from a real estate value, but the right property tax rate went up from $0.77 to $0.84, which meant that our citizens did not lose any benefit for that $120,000 of value. 526 00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:36,890 And in fact, their exemption amount went up from $924 a year to a thousand and eight per year because it kept track with the rate. 527 00:51:40,250 --> 00:51:47,290 If you compare our program with surrounding jurisdictions, we stack up very well. 528 00:51:48,530 --> 00:51:55,070 Hampton has only a deferral or a freeze for their citizens. 529 00:51:56,010 --> 00:52:01,590 Newport News for full exemption, your income is limited to $25,000 for household. 530 00:52:03,870 --> 00:52:17,050 New Kent has a limit of $50,000 for their income, but they also limit the amount 531 00:52:17,050 --> 00:52:22,390 of the exemption as well. City Williamsburg is deferral only. There is no 532 00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:31,810 exemption. York County has a tiered system where based on your household 533 00:52:31,810 --> 00:52:40,290 income you may get a larger or smaller benefit. Hours if you qualify you know 534 00:52:40,290 --> 00:52:41,350 what your benefit is going to be. 535 00:52:43,830 --> 00:52:45,470 So, that's where we stand at this point. 536 00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:53,950 We have it again, but as with all things, incomes are going up, 537 00:52:55,250 --> 00:53:00,310 values of houses are going up, it's about time we made an adjustment. 538 00:53:02,590 --> 00:53:10,770 I am here today to recommend that you make adjustments, both to the income requirement, 539 00:53:10,770 --> 00:53:17,400 And to the benefit level, whereas right now our income, 540 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:25,240 maximum income to receive this exemption is at $45,000 for household income. 541 00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:30,180 I'm going to recommend that that be raised to $55,000. 542 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:39,760 I'm also going to suggest that you raise the actual benefit from the first $120,000 of value. 543 00:53:40,660 --> 00:53:49,420 to the first $150,000 of value, that is going to raise the exemption amount in a dollar standpoint 544 00:53:49,420 --> 00:54:03,360 from the current $996, which is $120,000 of value at $8,3 per hundred, to approximately $1,245, 545 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:09,540 $150,000 at $83 per hundred. 546 00:54:11,590 --> 00:54:19,570 This would not take effect until the school year 2025, we are currently, again, because 547 00:54:19,570 --> 00:54:30,950 we are in the middle of the tax year, we cannot change it until the next year, that is my 548 00:54:30,950 --> 00:54:36,510 recommendation as commissioner of the revenue, I think that based on the increased 549 00:54:36,510 --> 00:54:43,970 incomes that people have had, as well as the increased value that we have on our 550 00:54:43,970 --> 00:54:49,530 assessments, that that's probably an appropriate way of moving me at this point. 551 00:54:50,510 --> 00:54:52,230 Be happy to take any questions you may have? 552 00:54:54,630 --> 00:55:03,090 So first of all, thank you, actually this had been brought to my attention by a senior 553 00:55:03,090 --> 00:55:13,510 citizen in my neighborhood who, due to workforce issues, had to work an increasing amount because 554 00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:19,470 there was no one to work, and they went $80 over and lost their exemption. 555 00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:31,510 And so, which was quite upsetting, because they, while they, yes, they worked increased 556 00:55:31,510 --> 00:55:32,030 time. 557 00:55:32,130 --> 00:55:37,070 They still made minimum wage, which has been raised a little bit, still there was an income 558 00:55:37,070 --> 00:55:37,530 issue. 559 00:55:37,850 --> 00:55:38,010 So, 560 00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:47,770 but I don't want to take away that when you do something like this, much like other 561 00:55:47,770 --> 00:55:56,430 things that we do, it does fall on others because we'll all be paying our regular tax. 562 00:55:56,790 --> 00:56:01,570 So I don't want to take away from that, but I do think that as you age, if you want to 563 00:56:01,570 --> 00:56:06,930 be able to age in your home, if you want to be able to continue to, I think that helping 564 00:56:06,930 --> 00:56:09,490 someone is not a bad idea at all. 565 00:56:09,490 --> 00:56:23,190 So, I would agree with the 150, which does raise it just a smidge. 566 00:56:23,610 --> 00:56:30,390 So, in the 55,000, but I don't know how other board members feel, so, but I just thought I'd. 567 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,640 I'd say, you know, we certainly would like to consider this. 568 00:56:37,740 --> 00:56:42,840 We haven't changed the amounts in a while and obviously there have been significant 569 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,840 changes in cost-living and the like. 570 00:56:45,380 --> 00:56:50,140 I guess I'm curious as to what the cumulative impact of this will be. 571 00:56:50,700 --> 00:56:56,600 Do we have any sense of how many people would be affected and what the additional cost 572 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:57,040 might be? 573 00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:02,140 It's very hard to come up with that. 574 00:57:02,860 --> 00:57:17,400 Again, it raises the, as I was saying, it raises the benefit from approximately $1,000 to approximately $1,250 per qualifying applicant. 575 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:24,540 Unfortunately, we really don't know how many people are going to apply in the future. 576 00:57:24,540 --> 00:57:33,080 year. We had 406 this year. I would imagine that there would be an increase. We would probably 577 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:42,200 be up to 500 or so qualifying with the increase in the income level. That would be fairly 578 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:46,440 typical. But it's just a guess. 579 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:55,400 And it's one of those things you can put the applications 580 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:59,700 out there, you can promote them, but if they don't apply, they don't apply. And I hope 581 00:57:59,700 --> 00:58:01,420 everybody who qualifies applies. 582 00:58:04,170 --> 00:58:13,270 Is there any way to get it? Would there be any way for us to take a look at, it just 583 00:58:13,270 --> 00:58:19,890 Just maybe take a look at the real estate and try to get a figure, maybe move this to our November. 584 00:58:20,450 --> 00:58:23,330 Would that still work for the budgetary work? 585 00:58:23,970 --> 00:58:31,330 I believe the Commissioner of Revenue is time to get his forms changed and applications out early in the year, so November, I think, would work? 586 00:58:31,790 --> 00:58:42,870 November would be fine, but as far as passing a resolution on this, we have to get those applications printed to be available to be mailed out. 587 00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:45,330 when people are getting their income and statements. 588 00:58:47,850 --> 00:58:54,030 Unfortunately, people will get their W2s and their 1099s and put them aside. 589 00:58:54,670 --> 00:58:58,950 Often times they get lost by the time the application is due in June. 590 00:59:00,470 --> 00:59:03,750 So we try to get them and encourage people to file early. 591 00:59:04,890 --> 00:59:08,410 Okay. Maybe we could do that. So is that an idea? 592 00:59:08,410 --> 00:59:11,590 Yeah, I think the recommendation is very worthwhile. 593 00:59:11,850 --> 00:59:15,730 I think we just want to have a sense of what the range of impact might be. 594 00:59:16,810 --> 00:59:28,830 So we know this year, with 400 applicants, the impact is approximately $400,000. 595 00:59:30,140 --> 00:59:47,480 If we had 500, we would be looking at approximately 500,000 dollars with an increase in the exemption amount from 120 to 150. 596 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:55,070 We would probably be looking at less than 600,000 dollars. 597 00:59:56,950 --> 00:59:59,970 They would be a 20% increase, which would put it right at six times. 598 01:00:00,940 --> 01:00:09,740 Now, if you want to have something to compare that to, if you have those of you in it, Ms. Larson, 599 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:18,000 I'm going to give you my copy here. The Disabled Veterans this year. On our sheet, when I printed 600 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:28,000 In addition to this chart, we had 915 disabled veterans qualifying for a real estate exemption. 601 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,440 It's $3.2 million of real estate tax. 602 01:00:34,460 --> 01:00:44,440 Since then, we've added another 12 and we have another 5 or 6 that have not been processed yet. 603 01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:49,200 So, in comparison, 604 01:00:51,340 --> 01:00:57,920 $600,000 for real estate exemption for our elderly and disabled citizens fails by comparison. 605 01:00:59,730 --> 01:01:00,370 Thank you. 606 01:01:01,670 --> 01:01:09,270 The other question I had was noticing that the total assets you didn't recommend an increase of that from $200,000. 607 01:01:09,410 --> 01:01:12,970 Is that because our surrounding jurisdictions seem to have about that as well? 608 01:01:12,970 --> 01:01:20,790 out that most of them, and either that or in some cases lower, saying New Kent has 609 01:01:20,790 --> 01:01:26,970 a higher, currently has a higher income but a lower asset, their assets are leveled 610 01:01:26,970 --> 01:01:28,410 $150,000. 611 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:39,900 Okay, you have maybe, I guess I would make a motion to table until you come back with, and 612 01:01:39,900 --> 01:01:41,600 then to on November meeting. 613 01:01:42,740 --> 01:01:44,760 I think with your direction we can do it either way. 614 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,180 We'll bring it back if you want us direct us to do that in a motion we would do it 615 01:01:48,180 --> 01:01:50,640 but we weren't asking for action today it really wasn't meant to be. 616 01:01:50,740 --> 01:01:55,060 Oh sorry okay that's fine it's a board discussion great you can come back 617 01:01:55,060 --> 01:02:02,760 that'd be great thank you yeah I think the main point is that we just like to get a sense 618 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,820 of whether the board is supportive of the idea I'd certainly support this 619 01:02:06,820 --> 01:02:07,180 I should. 620 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:07,900 I'll wait to. 621 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:08,360 Yeah. 622 01:02:11,570 --> 01:02:12,370 All right. 623 01:02:12,570 --> 01:02:12,850 Thank you. 624 01:02:14,130 --> 01:02:14,730 Thank you. 625 01:02:15,450 --> 01:02:16,210 Appreciate it. 626 01:02:16,230 --> 01:02:17,130 Board consideration. 627 01:02:17,490 --> 01:02:19,070 It's 2024 legislative agenda. 628 01:02:19,490 --> 01:02:19,730 Adam. 629 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,480 But after you, Mr. Chairman, members of the board, that's hard to believe, but it's time to talk 630 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,000 about our 2024 legislative agenda already. 631 01:02:32,580 --> 01:02:34,260 I provided you with a memo this year. 632 01:02:34,460 --> 01:02:35,500 A little bit different than usual. 633 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,620 Sometimes I just slide the whole thing over to you and we talk about it. 634 01:02:38,780 --> 01:02:43,320 Prime the pump a little bit this year and remind you of what you've talked about throughout 635 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:49,140 the past year as you guys are talking and mentioning things, I put it in a folder and bring it all 636 01:02:49,140 --> 01:02:54,320 to you at the end of the year. So, the ones that we talked about, or the individual you guys 637 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:59,800 talked about last year, first one was adopt a resolution supporting NACO's position on regulating 638 01:03:00,580 --> 01:03:05,560 telecommunications facilities. That was Mr. McGlennon. I've heard this actually from a couple of you, 639 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:10,560 I described it to Miss Larson, but deregulate low hazard dams like King's Point and Jolly Pond, 640 01:03:11,620 --> 01:03:16,840 Encourage and provide for regulate the electric vehicle charging infrastructure that was Mr. McLenon. 641 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:22,680 Increase the distance of the 40 foot no contact voting center rule that was originally brought up by Mr. 642 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:28,940 Eisenhower, but I've heard that a few times given the issues that we had at the vote center this year. 643 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,980 Also, relaxed development standards for agri-terrism that was Ms. Larson. 644 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:40,460 I noted that deputy county attorney Liz Parman has recommended a change in the Virginia code section that requires 645 01:03:40,460 --> 01:03:44,580 There's a five-year notice period for trash takeover, as we are considering doing that. 646 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:55,800 Really, I think that's a pretty old provision that was meant to protect local trash haulers back in the day when there was a lot of local trash haulers, but I think environmental regulations have mostly regulated them out of business. 647 01:03:56,580 --> 01:04:04,480 The major trash haulers in the county are all from out of state and even from out of country, not all of them, but the vast majority. 648 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:10,340 And then lastly, what's not on your list, I did want to mention to you that, I've spoken with Judge Smith. 649 01:04:10,940 --> 01:04:17,680 The judges of the ninth district circuit have gotten together and they talked to the Judicial Council, 650 01:04:18,180 --> 01:04:21,260 presented the Judicial Council with the numbers of caseload that they have, 651 01:04:21,660 --> 01:04:27,460 and I've convinced the Judicial Council to recommend that they add another circuit court judge to our district, 652 01:04:27,580 --> 01:04:29,280 which would be funded for by the General Assembly. 653 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:36,760 That recommendation goes to the General Assembly, and I would recommend that we put that on our legislative agenda to support that effort. 654 01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:41,720 They really need another judge and to have the General Assembly pay for it would be awesome. 655 01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:42,900 Not great. 656 01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:53,560 Other than what you guys have said over the past year, I included your 2023 legislative program which was a break from the norm in that we did it in one page. 657 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,600 Also, it didn't really ask for any direct legislation, it was mostly a positional paper. 658 01:04:58,500 --> 01:05:02,140 If you go through it, as I mentioned in the memo, most of this is still relevant. 659 01:05:02,540 --> 01:05:05,680 I would like to know whether you guys want to keep a couple of the things on there. 660 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,900 In particular, the school funding, we had that one in there. 661 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:14,140 It said change the school funding index to more fairly allocate state funds among localities. 662 01:05:14,580 --> 01:05:15,880 If you guys want to keep that, that's fine. 663 01:05:15,940 --> 01:05:17,040 I'm just thinking of space. 664 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:21,840 If we want to keep to one page, and how much of yours we add, how small do I get the font? 665 01:05:23,660 --> 01:05:37,740 Well, yeah, I think the question of whether we're going to likely to have an impact on the question of redoing the local composite index formula and so forth is pretty, pretty limited. 666 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:49,860 It's more likely to come as part of the vehicle or BML packages than just being in our package alone and would already be covered by the adoption of those agendas. 667 01:05:49,860 --> 01:05:55,160 Because what we might want to do, though, is just maybe reemphasize the desire to fully 668 01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:59,980 remove the cap on support positions that are justified by SOQ. 669 01:06:00,860 --> 01:06:04,220 We did benefit significantly this year. 670 01:06:05,300 --> 01:06:11,320 Well, I won't say benefit, we got a restoration of the monies that had been eliminated 671 01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,920 back during the Great Recession, at least partially. 672 01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:20,440 And if we could continue to get that assistance, it would be a good step in the direction 673 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,740 of the state taking on its responsibilities. 674 01:06:29,310 --> 01:06:30,090 Do we know that it's her? 675 01:06:31,370 --> 01:06:42,990 I think just one thing we need to pay attention to is the 45-day early voting. 676 01:06:44,590 --> 01:06:57,530 I'd be curious after it's over the cost to the locality, but one thing I've found interesting 677 01:06:57,530 --> 01:07:07,670 is that the number of days increased, but I believe in talking to the registrar, the 678 01:07:07,670 --> 01:07:11,750 the training, like they didn't fix the training. 679 01:07:12,110 --> 01:07:15,390 So she had to, she's having to train people 680 01:07:15,990 --> 01:07:19,530 that she's already trained for the same election 681 01:07:20,190 --> 01:07:23,790 within the 45, because of the timing of the general. 682 01:07:24,650 --> 01:07:29,190 So just something that an unintended consequence perhaps 683 01:07:29,190 --> 01:07:33,110 that wasn't paid attention to by the general assembly. 684 01:07:33,330 --> 01:07:35,810 So I'm not necessarily saying that you need to put that 685 01:07:35,810 --> 01:07:37,010 in the legislative agenda. 686 01:07:37,010 --> 01:07:46,330 I'm just saying we probably need to be paying a little bit more attention when these, those 687 01:07:46,330 --> 01:07:51,590 type of things, if they say they're going to keep the 45 day, if they go to change, if 688 01:07:51,590 --> 01:08:00,690 God forbid, they make it 55 days, just something to put in your tickler file that we need to be 689 01:08:00,690 --> 01:08:03,210 kind of zoning in on about early voting. 690 01:08:03,930 --> 01:08:09,030 As you know, we're interviewing potential lobbyists for next year and so that's something 691 01:08:09,030 --> 01:08:12,150 that we can probably help keep a little closer watch on than. 692 01:08:12,510 --> 01:08:17,850 Yeah, so I'll be interested in they go to get in to seeing how it's been going with other 693 01:08:17,850 --> 01:08:24,710 localities too, but I mean, they have the same qualifications that we do, but anyway, so. 694 01:08:25,430 --> 01:08:31,570 I'd like to bring up one we talk about the 40 foot no contact rule and it's 695 01:08:31,570 --> 01:08:38,090 basically it's based upon an arc from the entrance and the way with the new 696 01:08:38,090 --> 01:08:42,710 building they're having to do it is to draw it from around any potential 697 01:08:42,710 --> 01:08:46,430 entrance to the door but there's some places where that technically you could 698 01:08:46,430 --> 01:08:50,790 walk right up to the side of the building or whatever I'm not so sure that it 699 01:08:50,790 --> 01:08:55,530 should be significantly increased from 40, maybe to 50 feet or whatever. 700 01:08:55,930 --> 01:09:01,290 But I would say to make it around the building itself as opposed to around from an entrance. 701 01:09:01,330 --> 01:09:08,050 That way you've got the whole building regardless of which entrance you're going into covered. 702 01:09:08,470 --> 01:09:12,450 The reason I mentioned this is because I went over and it was a great concern to Diana, 703 01:09:12,650 --> 01:09:18,390 because she's talking about the back part of her new early voting room, 704 01:09:18,390 --> 01:09:28,450 having to put in another door in order to be able to have that 50-40 foot, so people can't come right up to the windows, where people inside are voting. 705 01:09:29,770 --> 01:09:33,290 And I hadn't thought about it until I talked to our voter registrar. 706 01:09:33,830 --> 01:09:45,090 So I think maybe 40 or 50 feet, but instead of, I would focus more on the building envelope itself to basically protect the integrity of the whole building. 707 01:09:49,490 --> 01:09:54,810 other item that I don't think we would be able to really accommodate much on in terms 708 01:09:54,810 --> 01:10:00,230 of our legislative package but we might be thinking ahead on this is just whether 709 01:10:00,230 --> 01:10:08,470 we want to ask the state to consider some kind of regulation related to the use of herbicides 710 01:10:08,470 --> 01:10:12,510 or pesticides in the vicinity of the Chesapeake and its tributaries. 711 01:10:12,510 --> 01:10:13,450 I 712 01:10:21,510 --> 01:10:26,410 think that's something that, again, is more likely to have legs if it's something 713 01:10:26,410 --> 01:10:31,670 that's part of the broader consideration by the local government lobbying groups and 714 01:10:31,670 --> 01:10:39,610 maybe we can talk with them about adding that to the next legislative packet beyond 715 01:10:39,610 --> 01:10:40,250 this year's. 716 01:10:47,570 --> 01:10:49,470 Any y'all want to take off where 717 01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:57,880 we were years ago and have a pile of them and no one 718 01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:03,300 take anything. I don't think you would take anything anyway. That's what I'm 719 01:11:03,300 --> 01:11:04,420 worried about. Definitely. 720 01:11:07,140 --> 01:11:11,640 I think that you know we had sort of focused on this 721 01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:12,080 before. 722 01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:19,480 I don't I don't see that there's any harm in articulating some of the 723 01:11:19,480 --> 01:11:26,580 things as accounting like Bayco does that we support. We'd like to see them do 724 01:11:26,580 --> 01:11:31,360 But we're not necessarily going to be able to get an individual sponsor from our local level. 725 01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:36,940 What I'm more concerned is that particular items that are more of an impact for us, 726 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:45,100 that we would like to have some sort of legislation carried by our local legislators to be more of an action. 727 01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,540 And this is where we'd like action, the rest of this we support. 728 01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:53,800 And I don't mind if it runs front page and in the back page. 729 01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:59,180 And the positions that we support I think can be fairly well abbreviated. 730 01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:05,880 We don't have to have a long detailed discussion necessarily of the positions and a lot of them. 731 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:10,540 If you want to look at the Veko agenda, we can say we support the Veko agenda. 732 01:12:10,900 --> 01:12:11,660 We'll never do that. 733 01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:17,480 So we can keep the paper fairly slim, I think. 734 01:12:17,480 --> 01:12:25,840 Yeah, for me, like seeing something, and I do not mean this, but it is political right 735 01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:26,180 now. 736 01:12:26,380 --> 01:12:30,980 The grocery tax is getting a lot of TV time. 737 01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:38,000 But I think by having something on, it's like, that's fine if you support, but please 738 01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:43,200 understand that supports things at the local level. 739 01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:49,280 And so we will either have to cut those things, or we will have to do something here, here. 740 01:12:49,700 --> 01:12:54,460 You can't just take away money without finding money to replace it. 741 01:12:55,140 --> 01:13:00,120 So for me, you know, you keep something on, I mean, frankly, number six, 742 01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,040 I would just change it to the county request, the General Assembly, 743 01:13:03,260 --> 01:13:10,320 check any attempt to use Serf Local Zoning Control, boom, period, not even putting it on to short-term rentals. 744 01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:16,580 But, you know, I think it's important to keep things so that people know that these are 745 01:13:16,580 --> 01:13:18,600 the type of things that impact them locally. 746 01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:19,840 So, 747 01:13:22,020 --> 01:13:22,760 appreciate your work. 748 01:13:23,060 --> 01:13:25,560 I will probably contact those of you that have names on here. 749 01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:29,480 I'll probably contact you directly so we can flesh this out a little bit more before I bring 750 01:13:29,480 --> 01:13:34,620 you the proposed agenda and we'll do that at your next work session meeting. 751 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:42,240 I also emailed you guys in sort of exactly what we did last year, not bringing the legislators 752 01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:47,060 in for the meeting in the work session room and then instead relying upon both staff 753 01:13:47,060 --> 01:13:52,240 and the board to get the message out to the legislators, are we good with that continuing 754 01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:52,660 with that? 755 01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:54,860 I am good with that. 756 01:13:55,220 --> 01:14:00,300 I know that we have heard from one legislator that is running on a future legislator that's 757 01:14:00,300 --> 01:14:01,420 running unopposed. 758 01:14:02,260 --> 01:14:15,140 I do think if we do see some changes that we do somehow do a personal reach out, you know, to say, hey, James City County, you know, these are some things. 759 01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:27,340 I think losing Senator Norman, somebody that's very familiar served on this body, very familiar with what's going on in James City County, you know, that is obviously going to be a loss. 760 01:14:27,340 --> 01:14:35,700 So, somehow we have to make ourselves known to future general assembly members as the election pans itself out. 761 01:14:35,820 --> 01:14:42,020 That'd be like a maybe a March work session that we invite them in after the elections and 762 01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:48,500 Fendon. Well, they're scheduled. Yeah, but at some point we need to make them familiar with that. 763 01:14:48,500 --> 01:14:51,220 Then maybe April May. Yeah, after. 764 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:54,900 Cross over and all that. 765 01:14:55,980 --> 01:14:59,920 I'll get you a draft for consideration at your next meeting, next month's work session. 766 01:15:00,140 --> 01:15:28,160 Okay, because we had a, we were looking at possible motion on this one today, but we're gone. No, no need for a motion. It's just given help giving me direction to bring something. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Next we'll move into the solar utility scale solar form application, because I welcome sir. How you doing today? Well, thank you Mr. Chairman and members of the board. 767 01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:37,380 At the September 12, 2023 Board of Supervisors meeting, the Berkeley Group presented to the Board of Supervisors, 768 01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:47,500 the draft solar policy language for large-scale solar facilities and a draft ordinance template that addresses various scales of solar facilities. 769 01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:55,980 Since then, staff has prepared the executive summaries of the draft policy and ordinance 770 01:15:55,980 --> 01:16:01,380 template to aid the board's review and those are attachments number four and number five 771 01:16:01,380 --> 01:16:02,280 to your board package. 772 01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:08,560 Percuss the purpose of today's meeting is to present to the board of supervisors the revised 773 01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:15,300 language of the drafts authority policy and ordinance template based on feedback from members 774 01:16:15,300 --> 01:16:17,080 of the Board of Supervisors. 775 01:16:18,100 --> 01:16:21,200 Staff looks forward to the Board's feedback. 776 01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:24,800 Based upon these materials and further direction 777 01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:28,400 at the meeting, staff will prepare the policy 778 01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:32,060 and ordinance for the planning commission's direct review 779 01:16:32,420 --> 01:16:35,280 at a public hearing in early 2024. 780 01:16:37,060 --> 01:16:38,940 But to some, I would be happy to answer any questions 781 01:16:38,940 --> 01:16:39,680 the Board may have. 782 01:16:41,740 --> 01:16:42,220 questions. 783 01:16:44,940 --> 01:16:51,500 No, not a question so much as a compliment. This is much more readable. 784 01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:55,380 I read 785 01:16:55,380 --> 01:17:04,180 it, I understand it. I think that that helped focus the discussion a little bit. I think 786 01:17:04,180 --> 01:17:09,880 we'll go if with the understanding this we'll go back to the planning commission of the full 787 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,960 process, the public will have a chance to come and it will come back to us. So, we'll 788 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:20,040 have plenty of opportunity to take public input and to look at any of the tweaks that 789 01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:23,360 may need to be made, but I think this is a good, good starting point. 790 01:17:24,740 --> 01:17:29,360 So, thank you for the work and look forward to working through it. 791 01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,580 Motion to move forward. Press on. 792 01:17:33,700 --> 01:17:34,320 So moved. 793 01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:35,480 Thank you. 794 01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:36,420 We'll call the police. 795 01:17:37,700 --> 01:17:38,420 Mr. Eisenhower. 796 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:38,720 Aye. 797 01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:39,340 Ms. Sadler. 798 01:17:39,480 --> 01:17:39,580 Aye. 799 01:17:39,820 --> 01:17:40,160 Ms. Larson. 800 01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:40,480 Aye. 801 01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:40,980 Mr. McLean. 802 01:17:41,140 --> 01:17:41,280 Aye. 803 01:17:41,460 --> 01:17:41,860 Mr. Hibble. 804 01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:42,260 Aye. 805 01:17:42,440 --> 01:17:42,880 Motion carries. 806 01:17:44,220 --> 01:17:44,520 All right. 807 01:17:44,700 --> 01:17:50,960 Next we'll move into the designation of voting represented for the vehicle annual business meeting. 808 01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:52,460 Mr. Steven, you're up. 809 01:17:53,300 --> 01:17:54,620 Mr. Chair, I'm members of board. 810 01:17:54,700 --> 01:17:55,920 Hope it's short and sweet. 811 01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,460 So to say, there are four of you that are planning to attend the vehicle conference. 812 01:17:59,460 --> 01:18:09,200 We did generally send a voting delegate information for one and I don't know if you would like to volunteer someone or select someone from the four that might be an attendance that we could send that to vacant. 813 01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:17,060 Their business meeting is Tuesday. I think it's at 10 o'clock in the morning and didn't know if we might have somebody interested in that. 814 01:18:17,580 --> 01:18:20,080 I think we already have somebody who's going to be there. 815 01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:23,160 Sure, I'll do it. 816 01:18:25,020 --> 01:18:26,120 I'll do it. 817 01:18:26,700 --> 01:18:28,040 I'm moving this Larsen. 818 01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:31,780 I'm usually only one still there for the business meeting, so yes. 819 01:18:32,820 --> 01:18:35,660 All right. 820 01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:36,300 Everybody good? 821 01:18:36,420 --> 01:18:36,980 Do we need a motion? 822 01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:37,740 You have a motion. 823 01:18:37,780 --> 01:18:38,240 Just made motion. 824 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,260 Oh, please. 825 01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:41,500 Ms. Sadler. 826 01:18:41,620 --> 01:18:41,680 Hi. 827 01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:42,460 Ms. Larsen. 828 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:43,320 Mr. McLean. 829 01:18:43,440 --> 01:18:43,580 Hi. 830 01:18:43,820 --> 01:18:44,360 Mr. Eisenhower. 831 01:18:44,380 --> 01:18:44,480 Hi. 832 01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:46,960 All right. 833 01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,080 Next we're going to board requests and directors. 834 01:18:50,060 --> 01:18:53,100 Anyone have anything that they want to go over today? 835 01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,720 Or do you want to move on to County Administrator report? 836 01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:55,720 So, 837 01:18:57,890 --> 01:19:03,870 I would just mention since it's, we don't have a service 30 here that we had a service 838 01:19:03,870 --> 01:19:11,810 30 recognition and I think most of us were there at one time or another but I was very 839 01:19:11,810 --> 01:19:20,110 impressed with the turnout and the camaraderie and the sense of Emily, if you will, that 840 01:19:20,110 --> 01:19:25,110 our employees in service 30 had and I'm very impressed with that group of people. 841 01:19:25,110 --> 01:19:27,690 they do a wonderful work on behalf of our citizens. 842 01:19:29,150 --> 01:19:35,330 And I just mentioned that Mr. Hipplin, I were right before that ceremony out at Calray 843 01:19:35,330 --> 01:19:43,710 Farm to hear more about the grant that was received, they are part of to provide assistance 844 01:19:43,710 --> 01:19:49,750 to food hubs that are reaching people who have food needs and it was very interesting and 845 01:19:49,750 --> 01:19:55,490 an impressive presentation that the folks at Cal Ray put on for us. 846 01:19:56,190 --> 01:19:57,470 We've got to ride the wagon around. 847 01:19:57,490 --> 01:19:57,970 Yes, we did. 848 01:19:59,730 --> 01:20:01,810 Very, just a couple things very quickly. 849 01:20:02,330 --> 01:20:07,050 Mr. Stevens, do we have anybody like a police officer? 850 01:20:07,730 --> 01:20:13,310 I know, probably don't right now, just because of trying to get officers on the street. 851 01:20:13,310 --> 01:20:33,830 I didn't know if we had an officer that was one that had a recruitment position, just hearing about more and more departments that are doing that, that are using current police officers as sending them to different schools and that kind of thing to recruit potential officers. 852 01:20:33,830 --> 01:20:44,850 The source and I believe the short answers yes we've had an officer with that's been an assigned duty to them so that's not their primary duty but they do recruiting and then we do take officers with us to job fairs and other activities. 853 01:20:45,270 --> 01:20:56,950 We have recently put a position in to be an HR person within the department to further help with recruiting efforts and that person to sort of coordinate and ensure that officers are available to go and be at those other job fairs. 854 01:20:56,950 --> 01:21:12,750 So we have at least a hybrid of what some others are doing and we have put many of the HR type staff in a lot of our departments to focus on each department whether that's general services or fire or police to try to help in our recruitment efforts to make sure somebody that is their job to be focused upon. 855 01:21:13,050 --> 01:21:17,870 So I'll get a little better description of that for you, but the short answer is we are doing some of that. 856 01:21:17,870 --> 01:21:27,510 Okay, and then we talked about this intersection before the intersection at five in centerville, 857 01:21:28,230 --> 01:21:33,730 and there's a no-left turn, but it is constantly, you know, people are getting more and 858 01:21:33,730 --> 01:21:36,630 more comfortable because it's been a while. We don't 859 01:21:36,630 --> 01:21:40,570 have any pork chop there, doesn't sound, it sounds like I'm going to have to wrestle and it's 860 01:21:40,570 --> 01:21:44,770 sadder to see if we can, which one of us is going to get the more concrete there 861 01:21:44,770 --> 01:21:50,730 in a couple of years. I have had the question, and it's very difficult to have a police officer 862 01:21:50,730 --> 01:21:55,370 out there because there is no shoulder. They have to wait down the street somewhere 863 01:21:55,370 --> 01:22:01,930 and just close location. I have had the question asked if you can do something like a red light 864 01:22:01,930 --> 01:22:10,350 camera there where if there was a turn, so I don't know, I'm asking, so if somebody could just let me 865 01:22:10,350 --> 01:22:12,770 know at some point. That would be great. 866 01:22:14,930 --> 01:22:18,110 And just a couple of things. One, I attended 867 01:22:18,110 --> 01:22:22,450 the Lafayette High School 50th Anniversary Celebration, the planning committee. I just 868 01:22:22,450 --> 01:22:27,030 they need to be commended because they did an excellent job. They did a Thursday social. 869 01:22:28,710 --> 01:22:36,210 I should I had a Lafayette 1980 grad in my house who went kicking and screaming and I sent 870 01:22:36,210 --> 01:22:38,330 and a picture to our children of him 871 01:22:38,330 --> 01:22:40,930 and it was my, your dad having a terrible time 872 01:22:40,930 --> 01:22:42,990 as he was talking to like 30 people. 873 01:22:44,010 --> 01:22:45,830 They did a social-et-prothing moon 874 01:22:45,830 --> 01:22:47,910 which was really well-attended 875 01:22:48,350 --> 01:22:51,290 then the game between tab and lofty yet. 876 01:22:51,590 --> 01:22:53,270 I imagine lofty yet, it's been a long time 877 01:22:53,270 --> 01:22:55,890 since I've gotten to go to a lofty at home football game 878 01:22:55,890 --> 01:22:59,450 but it was packed and it was just so many people 879 01:22:59,450 --> 01:23:01,330 from different classes 880 01:23:01,690 --> 01:23:04,250 and then on Saturday night they did a banquet 881 01:23:04,250 --> 01:23:09,830 and they also included their 23, excuse me, Hall of Fame, 882 01:23:10,310 --> 01:23:13,870 which was 22 people into their Hall of Fame, 883 01:23:13,870 --> 01:23:14,850 which was incredible. 884 01:23:15,630 --> 01:23:17,730 And something that I wrote on my county page 885 01:23:17,730 --> 01:23:19,950 that I just want to reiterate here as well, 886 01:23:20,310 --> 01:23:22,430 where, in all of the speeches, 887 01:23:22,770 --> 01:23:24,750 the impact of the teachers and the coaches 888 01:23:25,410 --> 01:23:28,310 that have had on these young people was just incredible. 889 01:23:28,930 --> 01:23:31,570 And as I stepped off of the school board 890 01:23:32,830 --> 01:23:39,930 eight years ago, one thing that was beginning to change were the teachers that were coaching. 891 01:23:40,710 --> 01:23:47,530 And part of that was the, probably a lot of it, was the increased testing and benchmarking 892 01:23:47,530 --> 01:23:49,350 and everything that they had to take on. 893 01:23:49,790 --> 01:23:56,810 So they just were not able to do the increased coaching time and we're losing out by doing 894 01:23:56,810 --> 01:23:57,130 that. 895 01:23:57,130 --> 01:24:27,110 We really are because the impact on the human beings that these 22 people had turned into was tremendous, and I'm sure that was parents and co-workers and all kinds of people, but what was continuously mentioned throughout their speeches were the impact that those coaches and teachers had had on them, and we just need to be really cognizant of that as we move forward, and I hope the state will look at that that there is so much more to some student than a test score, and I hope we can get back to the 896 01:24:27,110 --> 01:24:29,730 impact that we've seen there at some point. 897 01:24:30,590 --> 01:24:35,950 And then just on a personal note, I just want to end and send my sympathies to my aunt, 898 01:24:36,390 --> 01:24:43,010 Diane Thompson, my uncle John passed away last week as funeral was yesterday, and there's 899 01:24:43,010 --> 01:24:49,870 not many people in James City County that can say that they passed away within an eighth 900 01:24:49,870 --> 01:24:53,030 of a mile or in their backyard of where they were born. 901 01:24:53,610 --> 01:24:59,810 He was born on Central Road at his parents' home and he died at the home that he and my 902 01:24:59,810 --> 01:25:06,810 aunt built on Central Road and he was a lifelong James City County resident except for a small 903 01:25:06,810 --> 01:25:11,110 amount of time that they lived in an apartment in my grandparents' basement when they were 904 01:25:11,110 --> 01:25:15,950 first married and they've raised all three of their sons here and their sons are all 905 01:25:15,950 --> 01:25:20,970 James City County residents too and there's not a lot of people that you can say that about. 906 01:25:20,970 --> 01:25:31,530 So I'll miss my uncle and I appreciate you watched our I watched our meetings and was never shy about what his opinion was about things that we're going on and Mr. 907 01:25:31,730 --> 01:25:33,590 Huffle can verify that 100 percent. 908 01:25:33,830 --> 01:25:35,410 Thank you. 909 01:25:35,410 --> 01:25:36,030 That's true. 910 01:25:36,130 --> 01:25:39,130 Mr. Huffle if I could just jump in I was looking for my piece of paper. 911 01:25:39,150 --> 01:25:39,750 Oh, I'm sorry. 912 01:25:39,910 --> 01:25:44,330 No, no, no, you get well, first of all my sympathies to you and your family and your loss. 913 01:25:44,830 --> 01:25:50,230 I know that was that was very difficult for your aunt and we often think about you. 914 01:25:50,230 --> 01:25:52,490 and I'm happy to lead it for Theta Ms. Larsen. 915 01:25:52,750 --> 01:25:52,910 Thank you. 916 01:25:53,610 --> 01:25:55,470 We keep track of those we do. 917 01:25:56,150 --> 01:25:57,810 I just want to let you know that I did participate 918 01:25:57,810 --> 01:25:59,330 in the most recent EDA meeting. 919 01:25:59,610 --> 01:26:03,230 And also the AFD committee participated 920 01:26:03,230 --> 01:26:05,870 in that there will be a new application coming forward 921 01:26:06,310 --> 01:26:08,150 for consideration in the near future. 922 01:26:08,390 --> 01:26:11,570 So glad to see those to continue into county 923 01:26:11,570 --> 01:26:13,590 because I think it's a worthwhile project 924 01:26:13,590 --> 01:26:18,750 and glad that we're able to utilize those efforts 925 01:26:18,750 --> 01:26:24,170 for helping out those landowners that have those large parcels, especially up our way. 926 01:26:24,970 --> 01:26:26,030 So, thank you. 927 01:26:27,450 --> 01:26:32,310 All right, kind of administrator, and I went to mayors and chairs yesterday. 928 01:26:32,810 --> 01:26:33,310 What is that? 929 01:26:33,590 --> 01:26:34,230 That was quick. 930 01:26:34,930 --> 01:26:36,450 And our next one got a lot. 931 01:26:36,610 --> 01:26:42,410 I got a lot of compost that was in Yorktown and very well attended, and our next one will 932 01:26:42,410 --> 01:26:47,850 be here in James City County on January, I think, 29th or so, somewhere around there. 933 01:26:47,850 --> 01:26:53,490 So whoever's chair next year, I already told them that we're going to have a coming event. 934 01:26:54,610 --> 01:26:55,890 Just be ready, chair. 935 01:26:58,590 --> 01:27:03,570 John and I, we had a good time in Cal Ray, what a great family they are up there and all 936 01:27:03,570 --> 01:27:09,830 the work they do in support of the county and it's another one of those things as gyms 937 01:27:09,830 --> 01:27:15,070 that we have in the community that do their job, do what they need to do and enjoy what 938 01:27:15,070 --> 01:27:19,990 they're doing, promote the county, promote good living and all that and work 939 01:27:19,990 --> 01:27:23,850 themselves to the bone. I mean they work out there at that farm. If you ever get a 940 01:27:23,850 --> 01:27:26,970 chance to go out there and maybe they would love to have any volunteer work for 941 01:27:26,970 --> 01:27:33,930 them so get a chance and be a great place to go and and a wonderful group. So next I'll 942 01:27:33,930 --> 01:27:37,810 turn over to county administrator and look to you for him. Mr. Chair, members of board 943 01:27:37,810 --> 01:27:41,210 two quick items. One I've mentioned before our Halloween with heroes is Wednesday 944 01:27:41,210 --> 01:27:46,790 This is day, October 25th, so tomorrow, from 6.8 p.m. at the LEC, children and adults alike 945 01:27:46,790 --> 01:27:50,650 are encouraged to attend, but it's a fun, safe, trick-or-treating event and get to meet 946 01:27:50,650 --> 01:27:53,070 a lot of our first responders and see a lot of our equipment and tools. 947 01:27:53,290 --> 01:27:56,630 So really, that's been very popular, it's 4,600 opportunity way. 948 01:27:56,930 --> 01:27:59,630 Again, October 25th, 6.8 p.m. 949 01:28:00,210 --> 01:28:04,810 And then we are hosting another, our Clean County Commission is hosting another repair fair 950 01:28:04,810 --> 01:28:09,570 and recycling expo, it's November 18th, which is a Saturday, from 90 m to 1 p.m. at War 951 01:28:09,570 --> 01:28:14,150 or how high school you can bring things to drop off for recycling, you can bring register 952 01:28:14,150 --> 01:28:18,410 and have items fixed, and if you want something registered to be fixed, you do that on our 953 01:28:18,410 --> 01:28:22,570 website at jamescitycountyva.gov, so we'll talk more about that in the coming meetings, 954 01:28:22,770 --> 01:28:24,570 but that's coming in November as well. 955 01:28:26,510 --> 01:28:32,310 All right, next we'll move into a need of motion when we move into a closed session, insulting 956 01:28:32,310 --> 01:28:37,850 with legal counsel in Florida retained by a public body regarding specified legal matters 957 01:28:37,850 --> 01:28:45,510 required for the provision of legal advice by such council specified in regarding a proposed under the Virginia Public 958 01:28:45,510 --> 01:28:54,150 Procurement Act and pursuant of Section 2.2-3711-88 of the Code of Virginia and 959 01:28:54,150 --> 01:29:00,750 discussion or consideration of acquisition of real estate property for the public purpose or of the 960 01:29:00,750 --> 01:29:05,930 disposed of public held real estate property where discussion of the meeting would adversely affect 961 01:29:05,930 --> 01:29:23,090 the bargaining positions of a negotiating strategy of a public body in pursuit of Section 2.2-3711A3, the Code of Virginia, and regarding 111 Grove Heights Avenue and 109 Grove Heights Avenue. 962 01:29:23,090 --> 01:29:35,250 In consideration, a personnel matter, the appointment of individuals to county boards and or commission is pursuing a section 2.2-3711A1 of the Code of Virginia. 963 01:29:36,130 --> 01:29:47,810 Appointments to the Board of Zoning Appeal, appointments to the Colonial Jewel and Civil Service, commission appointments to the Social Service Advisory Board, and appointments to the Colonial Community Criminal Justice Board. 964 01:29:47,810 --> 01:29:48,950 I have a motion. 965 01:29:49,130 --> 01:29:49,870 So moved. 966 01:29:50,130 --> 01:29:50,550 So moved. 967 01:29:51,210 --> 01:29:52,250 Oh, please, sir. 968 01:29:52,650 --> 01:29:53,090 Ms. Sadler. 969 01:29:53,330 --> 01:29:53,430 Hi. 970 01:29:53,650 --> 01:29:54,110 Besides, Trown. 971 01:29:54,690 --> 01:29:55,550 Mr. Eisenhower. 972 01:29:56,650 --> 01:29:57,690 I'm sorry about that. 973 01:29:57,790 --> 01:29:58,430 Mr. McLennan. 974 01:29:58,690 --> 01:29:58,810 Hi. 975 01:29:59,230 --> 01:29:59,770 Ms. Larson. 976 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,500 Aye. Aye. Aye. We're in close session. 977 03:06:08,910 --> 03:06:38,090 Aye, closed session and needed certification. Mr. Chairman, I move to certify that we only spoke about those items we indicated that we would speak about in going into closed session. Thanks, sir. Roll call, please. Ms. Adler. Hi, Mr. Eisenhower. Mr. Muglenin. Hi, Ms. Larson. Hi, Mr. Rippel. Hi, motion, care. Action is taken. Okay. I have the motions for appointments. The first is to appoint Andrew Frank to the James City County Board of Zoning Appeals for the balance of a five-year term that ends on March 31, 2024. 978 03:06:40,410 --> 03:06:49,710 So for the Colonial Juvenile Services Commission Appointments, Ms. Melinda Marriott and Ms. Denise Kirschbaum for 979 03:06:49,710 --> 03:06:59,930 length of term that through June 30th, 2027, for the Social Services Advisory Board, we would be appointing Mr. 980 03:07:00,090 --> 03:07:06,650 Frank Ferguson to assume the unexpired term of Mr. Wells that expires on November 30th, 2025. 981 03:07:06,650 --> 03:07:14,730 and we would be appointing Ms. Kenya Williams and Ms. Sharvala West for terms that expire on October 24th, 2027. 982 03:07:17,780 --> 03:07:23,380 And we would be, I think this is one where we make a recommendation. 983 03:07:24,120 --> 03:07:25,220 Yes, okay. 984 03:07:25,220 --> 03:07:33,120 Okay, a recommendation to the point, the honorable judge, Josh DeFord, and Mr. 985 03:07:33,280 --> 03:07:37,340 Brad Ryan-Hammer, to three-year terms, expiring to October 24th, 2026. 986 03:07:39,100 --> 03:07:46,300 Right, a motion on the floor for the four-point or four boards appointments for multiple people. 987 03:07:46,640 --> 03:07:47,320 Roll call please. 988 03:07:47,760 --> 03:07:48,340 Ms. Sadler? 989 03:07:48,640 --> 03:07:48,740 Aye. 990 03:07:48,980 --> 03:07:49,520 Mr. Isaugher? 991 03:07:49,600 --> 03:07:49,740 Aye. 992 03:07:50,960 --> 03:07:51,340 Ms. Larson? 993 03:07:51,640 --> 03:07:51,800 Aye. 994 03:07:51,960 --> 03:07:52,400 Mr. Hempel? 995 03:07:56,000 --> 03:08:16,940 We're going to keep the boards for the next regular meeting will be November 14th at 5 p.m. here in the boardroom, but we're going to attend you this meeting until 9 a.m. on November 12th, where four board members will be attending the Vaco Annual Conference at the Homestead Resort in Hot Springs, Virginia. 996 03:08:17,480 --> 03:08:19,200 So I do have a motion to keep that open. 997 03:08:19,200 --> 03:08:21,220 and this meeting open for that. 998 03:08:21,440 --> 03:08:21,740 Motion. 999 03:08:22,080 --> 03:08:23,480 Motion, roll call, please, sir. 1000 03:08:23,880 --> 03:08:24,280 Mr. Sadler? 1001 03:08:24,420 --> 03:08:24,540 Aye. 1002 03:08:24,800 --> 03:08:25,400 Mr. Eisenhower? 1003 03:08:25,540 --> 03:08:26,260 Aye. Mr. McLean? 1004 03:08:26,400 --> 03:08:27,180 Aye. Mr. Larissa? 1005 03:08:27,260 --> 03:08:27,400 Aye. 1006 03:08:28,760 --> 03:08:29,140 Motion carries. 1007 03:08:29,540 --> 03:08:30,140 Meeting stays on. 1008 03:08:31,040 --> 03:08:31,580 Thank you.