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Five, four, three, two, afternoon.

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Before I start with our data for our PM2, I just want

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to recognize Ms. Aretha Vernette sitting behind me, and this is something that I know is unique

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since of my experience being up here is we had a data analysis retire last year, and

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so Ms. Dampere and Student Services and I kind of worked to become more efficient

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combined funds to have a director over data and special programming so I wanted to introduce

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you to her because she was very helpful in gathering the data that I'm going to share

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today. So I want to thank Aretha. So we're going to start off with just some connections

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to our student achievement data and our strategic plan. So as you are well aware

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we are working very diligently to ensure that all schools are in a school grade

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of A or B. And so one of the measures for that that we will be looking at is to ensure

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that we can get the points needed to be back in the top 10.

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And so today I'm going to be discussing data and our mid-year goal that is highlighted

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here is that we improve over last year at PM2.

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So we want to go over our data, but addressing it that we're improving over last year.

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We also have a goal specific around early literacy with an end goal of increasing third grade proficiency and looking for an 8% increase at each window.

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So what I will share is when we created this goal, we knew we had a lot of work to do in the area of early literacy,

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and I think I've shared before that I'd rather set very high goals and maybe not always meet them,

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but we're realizing 8% growth at all windows

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is somewhat of a challenge,

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but I still think we're gonna keep that bar for high,

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or high for now, and then we'll reevaluate moving forward.

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So we're gonna start off with early literacy,

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and you know, I'm always going to do a commercial

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when we talk about early literacy and reading

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because not all students take the same assessment.

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So a quick review is most kindergartners

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would take the early literacy.

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If they score the 852, that means that they move into the reading assessment.

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And I can tell you this is less than 100 students in Bavar that actually move in.

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So most of our kindergartners are on grade level and they are represented in this early literacy growth.

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So you can see we went up to 37% proficiency and again that's most of BPS kindergarten students are falling under that assessment.

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assessment. When we move into first grade, this is where we do have an increased number

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of students moving to that reading assessment. So I can tell you for this 25, 26 PM to window,

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we had over 130 students move into this assessment. So that is up from last year. The reason

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that I point this out is students have to be performing well to move into that

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reading assessment. And so while I'll go over the reading assessment for first grade I think

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that is a celebration of the work that our teachers are doing in our first grade classrooms

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that we're increasing the number of students that at mid-year move to that reading assessment.

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So growth within the majority of first graders being in the early literacy but knowing that

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that's a hundred students more moving into that reading assessment. When we move to the

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second-grade students that are taking the early literacy exam in second grade I

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want you to understand that less than a hundred students district-wide so very

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few of our second graders are taking the second grade early literacy at this

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point and these are students that are typically demonstrating significant

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deficiencies in second grade so we're wrapping those students around with

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interventions as second grade students.

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Now we're going to move on for these same

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grade levels but now we're speaking to those students that are in that reading

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test. So for kindergarten I can tell you we increased the number of kindergarten

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students that hit that high score to move that 852 to move to the reading

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test by about 25 students over last year. Again this is just under 150

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the kindergarten students district wide that have hit that score to move into this reading

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assessment.

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For first grade, these are students that have hit that 852, and we increased the number of

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students, 100 more students over last year moving in, so this is a direct result of intentional

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work that we've been doing in our primary classrooms.

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The reason I point this out is when you start looking student by student, we may have

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of a first grade student that hit the 852,

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so they bumped up to that reading assessment,

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but they're scoring at the level two range.

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So they're not quite proficient,

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but we're still looking at that student

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as they are above where they would need to be

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at this time of year.

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So we'll continue working with them,

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but they may not be represented in the proficiency rates

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at that first grade reading assessment.

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And then when we look at second graders

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taking the reading assessment,

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That is the majority of second grade students taking that assessment.

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So we have, I want to say approximately 4,800 second graders that represent the growth we

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see there in second grade.

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So any questions before we move to our intermediate reading?

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I just have a quick comment.

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I just would like to commend you and the whole team because seeing improvements is

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It's huge, and obviously K-3-3 is the foundation for the rest of their career, so thanks for

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all you're doing.

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Well, thank you.

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It's a huge team effort, and most importantly, it's the people in front of our students.

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So they've bought into the Mighty Moves.

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We have implemented UFlight training, so we are training every kindergarten through

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second grade teacher, and that is really just a curriculum tool to support the Mighty

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Move initiative.

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So our teachers I will say two Saturdays ago we kicked it off we trained just under two hundred teachers on a Saturday

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Every day in the last week. We've had different trainings that teachers are coming to so your support board of early literacy

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Dr. Andel's very supportive of early literacy. I think this will pay off dividends as we move forward

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Can you remind the board how long we've been using mighty moves now at this point?

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We are actually in year two of Mighty Moves.

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Sometimes it feels like year 10, but that was a very heavy lift.

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So last year we went district-wide starting in VPK.

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They had Strive for five, which is their version of Mighty Moves.

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So this is year two of Mighty Moves.

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What we are doing, because Mighty Moves is grounded in that science of reading,

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this year we also added on what does that look like in a third through sixth grade classroom.

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and so we've done some professional development just around what does that

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look like because we have found ourselves with students in grades three

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through six that are missing that phonics piece and what the research says

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is by fifth grade students have learned to compensate for that gap but it

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doesn't go away and so that's where we'll see fifth grade comprehension

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sometimes will take a hit and really it's because they struggle with

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decoding and they compensate for that so this is year two next year will be year

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one of going district wide and K2 for you fly using that resource thank you so

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moving on to three through six this is where we're looking at reading we've

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put a large amount of resources into many of our schools for third grade

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literacy so you will see up one percent I want to be very transparent is after

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reviewing this data we know that for Brevard we keep up with other high

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performing districts from p.m. one to p.m. two our experience has been from two

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to three we loot week we maintain a little more than other districts that

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are able to move faster between two and three so full transparency I sent

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out a directive principles were also we talked about it last week at our LTM

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that our literacy coach is effective today will be now serving students and

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so I want to be very transparent is we've spent a whole semester in

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coaching adults and they can still do some of that should their schedule

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allow but we know that we now know who are the students that are not quite

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at proficiency that need more support and so we have repurposed that

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position moving forward to directly support students. We also did say you

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know after they serve third grade we have fourth, fifth, and sixth you know

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looking at those students that are in approximately I'm gonna give out scale

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scores and they're different for each grade level so I'll just tell you that

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they're what we call like a student in that bubble of not quite a level 3 but

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very very close with some intense supports can get to proficiency by the

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end of the year. So you will see here when we look at the fourth grade maintaining and

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then we look at fifth grade and this is where we saw a decline. So we have looked at when

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we're working with schools looking at our pacing, are you on pace? How did your students

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perform on the benchmarks that have already been taught? Because that's two different

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cases. We know with the FAST because they take it three times a year. They may have

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content in front of them that they haven't yet been instructed on.

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So we've really taken a look at what supports need to be in place to respond to this fifth

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grade.

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And I can tell you the elementary programs team has created what we're calling boot camp

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presentations.

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We did this last year in math and got excellent feedback from teachers.

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And so we have implemented those for this year and schools will get those.

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and that can do that reteach either of skills that were taught that students

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haven't shown mastery but also some of that front-loading to help students get

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multiple exposures to that benchmark. In sixth grade I will say not only are we

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continuing to show growth but I am very proud to say that we remain

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significantly higher than anyone in the state so our sixth grade data

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continues to be a very strong force moving forward.

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going back to the fifth grade data, what you were just talking about as far as content,

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is that, could it just be this time around, like there was more of that content that we haven't covered,

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or is that that could happen any time?

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Because I know the tests don't always have the same questions on it.

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It was my one question.

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And the other thing is, and I've asked this question before,

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is this a cohort that, as they move from year to year,

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this particular cohort is low?

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So if you look at, so looking at cohort,

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if we look at that blue column for fourth grade

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and compare that to the orange column, a fifth grade,

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you can see that, you know, like that cohort

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of students improved by a percent.

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I can tell you what I am finding

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is not necessarily that the benchmarks maybe were assessed this year and not

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assessed the previous year. What I'm finding more is that pacing is a struggle

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in some of our school sites and so we're really working on if the pacing

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hasn't kept up and so how are we catching those students up with that

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content and making sure that pacing that's what we're finding. Instructional

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pacing in some cases is not necessarily keeping up with our curriculum guides here. And so

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they should have had that benchmark by now, but because of, you know, diverse reasons

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in the classroom, they haven't. Right. Got it. Thank you.

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Any other questions before we move to secondary ELA? I just have one comment in regards

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to these ones because when we look at these students and I mean the COVID cohort of

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children that came in during those very, very crucial years of kindergarten, first

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grade, second grade, third grade. I think that's going to be interesting to track that historically

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and just see what that looks like through the duration of their educational career because

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I think we will see, unfortunately, some negative impacts from that time. So that could be a

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little bit of what's happening here with our fifth graders.

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And I will tell you, in speaking with principals, that's very much they know what it looked

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like for that cohort at their school. And again, I go back to those phonic skills.

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We had two things going for us.

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We had, you know, maybe some hybrid settings and all the factors that we know came from that.

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But also, did we have explicit bonnix instruction in all classrooms? And I don't know that we

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could honestly say that at that time. And so I think that those two things together,

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bonnix has to be taught explicitly. Whereas comprehension skills and those types of

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things, they can be surrounded with other instructional sports. But with bonnix, it

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has to be. These are the letters and here's what they say. Right. And that decoding and

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encoding piece that I think is a deficit that we're continuously having to see. We're seeing

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more of as students move into intermediate grades that probably before that time we

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didn't see. Yeah, thank you.

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see significant growth. Again, I'm going to tell you a huge celebration for this

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data is what we are seeing is we are coming out higher than the state for the data that

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we can see at the mid-year in all of these grade levels. So again, excellent success that

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our teachers are doing. We've talked about having a lot of school walk-throughs and

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that was a learning curve in a lot of our schools, but I will tell you with 100% transparency,

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our secondary schools and teachers have embraced that process and are growing by leaps

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some balance and I think our student learning is evidence of that.

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we're going to, before we transition to math, any questions on all things ELA?

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Great job. So I'll make a couple comments.

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It's been mentioned a little bit, Mighty Moves,

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Phonics Instruction, Science of Reading. So a little

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over a year ago, I think it was, we presented our literacy plan.

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And everybody talked about, this is a really great plan. Plan looks great, a lot of good

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stuff got to implement the plan. And really the people that implement the plan are the

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teachers in the classroom and the school-based support personnel and administrators making

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sure that we're actually implementing the plan, the resources sent out by the district.

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Really we are working the plan and the results are there. So it's a great testament

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to the people who put the plan together. It's obviously targeted instruction, the

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right type of work with the science of reading and back to basics and phonics

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and fluency but also it's really the people working the plant so it's been

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mentioned it's a result of the classroom teachers and the supports in the school

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so good job great job so far just got to keep going and

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I'm super excited to

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talk about math.

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Historically that has been an area of opportunity in the

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elementary setting and so I'm super proud now the good news is is for math

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everybody K2 takes the same assessment so I don't have to go over any of that

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criteria but you will see that for kindergarten significant growth growing

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faster at a faster rate than anyone around us in the state so kudos to the

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work again this district did invest in elementary math coaches and so they

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have had anywhere from six to ten schools that they work with. They're out in

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schools, they've created resources again that teachers have raved over just

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trying to lighten the lift of what happens in that classroom. So I'm super

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proud kindergarten just growing faster than the state. First grade above the

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state and growing faster than the state and second grade above the state.

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So we're really really proud of that because we know that will pay off

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long-term for our students.

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When we move into grades three through six I will tell

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you that last year when we looked if you look at those numbers last year we put

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in a lot of supports between two and three and that's where we unveiled

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those boot camp presentations for teachers in the area of math and we saw

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significant growth between PM2 and PM3. What we were able to do last year

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is really talk through some different teacher organizations about what was some feedback

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on use of them and because it was so positive I think we'll see even greater growth between

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PM2 and PM3 because I think more teachers are going to use those resources.

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They're available but I think it was, you know, it's comfort in implementing new resources

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so I think we'll continue to see great growth there.

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And again I'm going to always highlight that sixth grade because Bavard makes an

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intentional choice to keep sixth grade in our elementary schools and I really feel

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like if this pays off for our students and when we move into secondary we'll

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talk about some of that math pathway changes that we've made as a result to

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help support our sixth grade students as they transition into seventh grade. Any

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questions on elementary math?

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So at first glance you would see this and

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wonder what happened but I know you've been part of the conversations each

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time. We made an intentional decision for students that are taking that seventh grade

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NJ advanced course that they would take the eighth grade assessment. So parents were informed

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if your child is taking this, this is the assessment. What this did is it put us more

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in line with a lot of the state. So when we're looking, you know, looking data, tracking

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our progress, this puts us more in line. And when you look at the course makeup

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up at the benchmarks, there is equally seventh or eighth.

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What we were finding is we really wanted

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to be able to track data better and track items

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at the benchmark of how can we support them,

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but also support those students moving from sixth grade

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because there was a time where a lot of our students

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were going into algebra one at seventh grade.

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And because we don't have that in J advance course

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in the elementary due to teacher certification,

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They didn't have the pre-algebra, pre-requisite learning, and it was a big challenge for them.

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So this provides a gateway. One thing I want to let you know is we are, we declined the 14,

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and we knew that because what the seventh grade represents now are just students taking seventh grade regular math.

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The students that in the past were the MJ making up the blue are now represented in the orange,

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as well as those students taking the eighth grade regular math.

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So we knew this would be a little of a flop.

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What I can tell you is we declined 14 percentage points as you see, but we increased 18.

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So we hope to be able to pick up some proficiency points in the end on our quest to be all schools in A and B and top 10.

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What we are tracking with this also is now our sixth graders.

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We'll need more points to show a learning gain, moving into that seventh grade M.J. advance.

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So we're tracking that data point as well.

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Any questions on secondary math?

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All right.

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Well, it's my pleasure to be in front of you today.

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Mr. Chair.

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Yes, sir.

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I just want to reiterate, obviously, and I didn't mention Dr. Rindell, but Dr. Rindell,

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it starts with you, and it was an awesome job just to see these gains in both areas

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in reading and math as phenomenal and just can't say enough about giving you guys

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credit and all the teachers.

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That's just a phenomenal progress and first of all I appreciate getting this

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data multiple times a year it's good for us to not just for the board to see it

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because you could send it in an email but also because of the board seeing it in

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a public way it we're being more transparent we're letting the public

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know here's where we stand mid-year as we as we track that so I appreciate

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that we get I mean the board's interest and we've asked for it but

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also that you guys continue to present to us had a thought or a

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question about the literacy coaches. Thank you for making that decision. I think

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that's the right thing to do from here out. It's just, you know, they can do more

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small groups. They can do more individual. Is that going to be something

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that's kind of a as needed year to year that the kind of the first part of the

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year will be more of the coaching, working with new teachers, getting

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everybody on board, and then the second half you're doing this? Or was

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that directive like from here on out? You just had a job description change

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kind of thing so the literacy coach job description what what there were some

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misnomers is that they were not allowed to see students that they could only work

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and I think some of that was just old theory you know it was not in the job

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description and so what I would say is there has never been a better time to

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be in BPS schools than the work that we're doing and I'll shout out to my

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partners in the back because this is a collective. We are all in. But as a result of that we

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have to make bold decisions and we're we're tasking our principals to do the same type

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of work. So I can't speak to will this always be the case. But I can tell you in my work

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of school improvement. We've we've said you know the coaches go out on the field

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with the team. They don't stay in the locker room. And so with our coaches I think

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it's very good practice to always be working with some students because just

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just as if I stayed in my office and wasn't out in schools,

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I go out to schools to see curriculum and instruction

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and action and see, get the feedback

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and see what it's looking like.

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And I think that's important for our coaches too,

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is work with students because it's one thing

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to write a plan, it's a whole other thing

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to implement and see as it's working.

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So what we will be doing moving forward

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is coaches will have an opportunity

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to work with students by design,

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but I just, I am a firm believer

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and if principals were here,

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they know what I'm going to say is you coach people first semester you serve

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students directly second semester and I just think that's that's maybe the

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game changer that we've been missing is we keep coaching and practice takes time

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to change sometimes and students need us to intervene immediately so I think

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we'll always consider that but I think moving from data aware to data

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to driven, that would drive the decision needing to be made.

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Well, I will just say I like and appreciate that plan.

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I think that's a good move, especially

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in the second half of the year when new teachers have been

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coached and set.

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Not that literacy coaches can't be asked in the hallway,

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please help me with this or whatever.

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But I think that's a good plan.

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I just harken back to my first year on the board

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when we were trying to get endeavor out of DNF status.

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right and it was all hands on deck we even had board members going up once and

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twice a week to coach students and but literacy coaches volunteers everybody

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was pulling students aside to walk with them to sit next to them during their

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already time to it and we had success we pulled endeavor up from the DS status

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to see for the first time in years and it was it was but it was because we had

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so many people and I think that's about literacy coaches were doing that

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that year, pulling in small groups.

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So I think it's a good move and I appreciate that.

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And can you just remind us, so we have a literacy coach

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in every elementary school, correct?

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That is correct.

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So all of our elementary schools

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have a full-time literacy coach.

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We have different tiers in our secondary settings.

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Even Edgewood, they do purchase a portion

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of their literacy coach.

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So currently today we are heavily stats

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with literacy coaches and that's not in every district.

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Okay, and then math coaches we they were we're sharing those amongst you said six to eight schools

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Yes, I currently have four at the district level and so they're all assigned. We've done last year. They

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had

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We tiered the schools this year what we found is all schools need different things

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And so really they're whole first nine weeks

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They were out in every school doing that planning with teachers

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And so they're a little different, but they're out in schools working directly, and now it's on a need-based as well.

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Thank you. I appreciate that.

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You know what? Yeah. So, love seeing the scoreboard here. It's great.

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You know, John, you had brought up thinking Dr. Rindell.

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And if we can remember back is when we were doing the interviews that was high on your list was the K3 Literacy.

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And it wasn't on all the candidates.

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And you just realize how important that is to build that foundation and having a plan.

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You can put all sorts of plays out there, but if you don't run them, we witness this week

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and your season ends.

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But it's the whole team together and we see the results and you can't run from the results

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right there.

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and I enjoy having this, you know, come back to us

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to see where we're at and having those snapshots

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and some areas we need to, you know,

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work harder and you're doing it.

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So it's a good time, like you said,

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to be in BPS and in the field and in the schools.

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And we hear it all the time.

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So we appreciate you greatly.

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And you too, Dr. Andel, thank you.

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I'll go to the sentiment.

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So I have the opportunity to sit with you one-on-one.

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Thank you to look at all the schools and all the data.

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I have all of it right here for every school,

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which is very, very useful to look at and see.

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And I just, your team, one thing that is out in the community

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that is just very resounding is that anything

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that Ms. Harris says we're listening,

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we trust you implicitly, like we know

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that your leadership is phenomenal.

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So you're doing an amazing job.

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So I just want to thank you because honestly I'm thinking,

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man, we had this, the ship has turned

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and it truly is, it's your leadership that's done that.

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And it's our amazing teachers that are putting in the work.

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So we love you, we appreciate you.

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So just don't ever take that for granted

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that you are very, very special

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in a very huge part of this team as is everyone else that in this room but but

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you're doing amazing stuff. So thank you. I concur with the sentiments of my board.

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Anybody else have anything? Dr. Rindell, did you want to say anything nice?

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Yeah. We have a great team. We have a great team.

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All right everybody good? Yep. Thank you Ms. Harris. Now on to, did you want to introduce them?

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Sure. Mr. Dufresne, I think Ms. Schmidt are going to share some information on our benefits that we're presenting to our employees

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There are some new additions, some changes, some things.

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I always want to make sure that our working conditions are the best that they can be,

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that our people are taken care of, so Mr. Dufresne's going to share some changes

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and always good call improvements or enhancements to some of our benefits.

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Once they wrangle the technology.

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Thank you, Dr. Reynolds. Sorry about that.

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Board.

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So with us today, we have Yolani. She's with CIGNA.

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I thought the board should be aware of some of the well-being programs that the district is providing to our employees.

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It's just a high view, 10,000-foot view of what's happening this quarter.

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I don't want to take too much thunder away, so Yolani, come on up.

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Thank you so much, everybody.

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My name is Yolani.

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I am so glad to be here.

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I'm the new well-being coordinator for BPS through SIGNA.

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So thank you so much for your time today.

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Like Mr. Dufresne said,

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today I'm just going to do a quick overview.

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We've got five minutes.

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And so just keep that in mind as we go through.

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But as we think about building

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our culture of wellness this year,

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there's three pillars that I really wanted to make sure

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that we embed in everything that we do.

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So as we go on to our slides

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and think about our activities,

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these things were in the back of my mind.

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And the first is education.

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Of course, that's going to be at the foundation

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of everything because we want our staff

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to understand why these things are important for them,

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right, understanding their own numbers,

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and why that should matter to them in preventive care,

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but then also on the resources side.

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So that's also part of what I will be doing

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is sharing all of that information

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because they have so much available to them,

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but I wanna break it down little by little.

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So that way we make it more digestible and easy for them to use everything that they have available to them.

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The second thing is engagement.

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I really want to work this year to build more engagement individually with the daily things that the staff is doing.

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And then of course district wide in bigger events as well and partnership.

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On the third pillar with partnership, I want to partner more with the wellness champions on sites.

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It's all of the district leadership

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to help promote some of these wellness initiatives

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and then of course community partnerships

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to bring in additional resources and activities

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for our staff to be able to do all throughout Brevard.

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And so please keep in mind with this slide

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that as I talk about just the different quarters

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of the year, again, this is a very broad overview.

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The calendar is more detailed,

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but a couple of things there.

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Of course, I wanted to fit everything in the time.

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But as we go through all of these things,

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this is a working draft.

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As we work together and make wellness a team effort

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this year, any feedback, suggestions, anything like that,

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it can be edited.

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So, but what I wanted to share here

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is we wanna think about each quarter

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as another wave of preventive care campaigns.

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So even though each month is a different wellness topic

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And you can see those at the top.

459
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,280
Those are based on different health observances

460
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,100
throughout the year, so we're matching that.

461
00:33:22,460 --> 00:33:24,440
But even as we're talking about different things,

462
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,480
we still wanna bring it back to preventive care

463
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:27,360
at the end of the day.

464
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,220
And so for quarter one, we're starting off strong

465
00:33:31,220 --> 00:33:33,660
with preventive care, heart health, and nutrition

466
00:33:33,660 --> 00:33:37,040
to really get the foundation and makes this P6 going

467
00:33:37,980 --> 00:33:40,000
on our health literacy and resources.

468
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,180
We want them to be aware of different health screenings

469
00:33:43,180 --> 00:33:47,720
that they can be doing for parental care, how to understand their biometric numbers,

470
00:33:47,980 --> 00:33:54,020
how to use MySigna, how to really know where should they be going, tell a health better,

471
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,400
should they be going to the urgent care versus ER, different things like that.

472
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,880
And then activities to get more engagement.

473
00:34:00,420 --> 00:34:02,860
We have our Google challenge, which is currently happening.

474
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,560
We have more than 1,400 people already signed up.

475
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,220
So that's really exciting.

476
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:13,360
and for February we will be doing the Feel Good February and then in March we

477
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,500
will have the Space Coast Wellness Challenge. For Feel Good February and

478
00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:20,840
Space Coast Wellness Challenge these are going to be free or reduced cost

479
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:25,340
activities all throughout Brevard for all of our staff so it's a really great

480
00:34:25,340 --> 00:34:30,040
partnership with the community to be able to bring that to them. And then

481
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,880
quarter two then we get into more financial well-being mental health and

482
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:40,200
then in June men's health. So with this I really wanted to help employees understand more about

483
00:34:40,720 --> 00:34:48,000
insurance and how that relates to their finances, how to be able to use their motivate me and get

484
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:53,020
some of that back to them, of course encourage them to use their EAP for mental health month,

485
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:58,620
and then do a summer preventive care campaign. So as they go into the summer,

486
00:34:58,780 --> 00:35:02,560
this is a perfect time for you to be able to go to the doctor and get those things if you

487
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:07,220
weren't able to do it throughout, you know, the first quarter. And different

488
00:35:07,220 --> 00:35:10,220
activities will still be doing this physical wellness challenge at that

489
00:35:10,220 --> 00:35:14,460
point. And I would love to build some community partnerships to bring more

490
00:35:14,460 --> 00:35:19,420
summer activities. And then for the financial well-being month, which will

491
00:35:19,420 --> 00:35:25,240
be April, that one, there's also community partnerships there. I know

492
00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:28,920
Community Credit Union, for example, they do offer that. And so I really

493
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:36,040
really want to bring that to our staff. Quarter three, July is skin cancer awareness. And then

494
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:41,120
coming back into the fall, again, another preventive care campaign. It's a back to school.

495
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:47,140
This is a perfect time to take care of our immunity, self-care, and being able to even

496
00:35:47,140 --> 00:35:52,960
visit the doctor. So again, back to our health screenings. We want to, you know, figure

497
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:58,280
out how to use my signal, how to find a doctor. All of these great things. Throughout

498
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:04,700
Throughout the summer too, we have the diabetes self-management program that if all of that

499
00:36:04,700 --> 00:36:08,240
gets approved by the team, we will have that, so that will be wonderful.

500
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,440
I would love to do a fall wellness festival, which is essentially a health fair, but make

501
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,060
it more fun, attractive for families.

502
00:36:16,780 --> 00:36:20,580
And of course, a walk to over challenge, which was a huge hit last year.

503
00:36:20,940 --> 00:36:22,320
So we will be doing that again.

504
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,860
Fourth quarter is ending the year on a great wellness note.

505
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:30,400
We still will have that October challenge going on.

506
00:36:31,020 --> 00:36:35,980
And then we can end up in the year doing another two-miler like we did last year,

507
00:36:36,140 --> 00:36:39,740
or we can actually do other things like a sports day,

508
00:36:39,940 --> 00:36:45,000
bringing community partners and, you know, share some more wellness resources there.

509
00:36:45,620 --> 00:36:50,940
That quarter is more about the breast and cervical cancer for women's health month in October.

510
00:36:53,680 --> 00:37:00,080
And then healthy holidays, because as we really think about our staff and diabetes and high

511
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,480
blood pressure, the holidays is that time where we're eating all of that salt and the sugar.

512
00:37:04,700 --> 00:37:10,000
And so I really want that to be a part of the campaign to make sure that everything that

513
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:16,160
we've worked for continues during the holidays as well and then preparing for the following

514
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:16,440
year.

515
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,020
So I just wanted to end it here with the great initiative,

516
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:22,660
Feel Good February, that we are partnering with

517
00:37:22,660 --> 00:37:26,340
Get Healthy Brevard for in February next month

518
00:37:26,340 --> 00:37:27,540
for Heart Health Month.

519
00:37:28,380 --> 00:37:32,280
And basically this is a free and low cost activities

520
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,340
that will be available to all of the Brevard community.

521
00:37:36,700 --> 00:37:39,440
And of course I'll be sharing this with our staff.

522
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:43,120
It is a collaboration done from the Florida Department

523
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:48,020
Department of Health in Brevard County, UF, IFAS Extension in Brevard County, Tobacco

524
00:37:48,020 --> 00:37:54,100
Free Brevard and Running Zone along with us and basically it includes all of those free

525
00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:59,160
activities like group walks all throughout Brevard, Zumba, yoga, dune planting, even a

526
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:04,940
beach cleanup and all of that leading to a community health fair on Saturday, February

527
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:06,060
28th.

528
00:38:06,140 --> 00:38:11,640
So that will be a great supplement to our Google challenge because these are activities

529
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:16,520
that will be after hours, they can do it after work or on the weekends, and so it doesn't

530
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:22,540
take a lot of the time throughout the day because they're so busy, so it's a really good way

531
00:38:22,540 --> 00:38:26,900
to get their cardio up for February, and we're really looking forward to that.

532
00:38:28,020 --> 00:38:29,500
Okay, well thank you.

533
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,280
Hopefully I was able to get those five minutes.

534
00:38:32,940 --> 00:38:36,280
So thank you so much for everything that you all are doing.

535
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,420
We really are trying to make wellness a team effort this year, so if you have

536
00:38:39,420 --> 00:38:57,820
Any thoughts or questions anything please do let us know or members any questions. Yeah I just think it would be a good time to remind the board that it's not too late to sign up for the go gold challenge started yesterday but I have to say after our record our record placement in the

537
00:38:58,340 --> 00:39:00,580
I think we've ever scored so high as a team.

538
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,320
Lena's already sent us out the invitation.

539
00:39:02,500 --> 00:39:03,900
I haven't joined the team yet, but I'm signed up.

540
00:39:04,460 --> 00:39:06,240
You know, if you're not going to walk, don't sign up.

541
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,180
You don't want to ruin our average.

542
00:39:08,980 --> 00:39:12,080
But board, and I think the legal staff, we usually join together.

543
00:39:12,940 --> 00:39:15,920
Not just because, not just for the honor and fame of it,

544
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,080
but honestly, I've always thought we should do this

545
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,600
to set a good example for our staff,

546
00:39:20,940 --> 00:39:23,520
that leadership values our health,

547
00:39:23,580 --> 00:39:26,700
and we want to set an example for participating in these challenges

548
00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:31,020
and participating in the events and so always appreciate that you guys include

549
00:39:31,020 --> 00:39:38,200
us in this process. And from the people who engage, they love these. They do. They

550
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,600
really encourage one another. I think the challenge is how do we get more

551
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:46,500
people who aren't engaged engaged. So and I think we've got these wellness

552
00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:50,640
coordinators at every site that are kind of the liaisons and I think that's

553
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,020
going to be it because you can sit at bajillion emails and people won't sign

554
00:39:54,020 --> 00:39:59,060
up, but it's how do you get the newbies who've never been apart to get excited about joining

555
00:39:59,060 --> 00:40:02,180
like some of their colleagues are.

556
00:40:02,580 --> 00:40:05,000
So keep up the good work.

557
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:06,980
Thank you.

558
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:07,900
Thank you so much.

559
00:40:08,180 --> 00:40:08,620
Anybody else?

560
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,160
So John, you had some?

561
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:13,960
I was just going to say I signed up.

562
00:40:14,060 --> 00:40:14,740
I don't know about you guys.

563
00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:15,920
That's wonderful.

564
00:40:18,910 --> 00:40:20,150
So thank you so much.

565
00:40:20,690 --> 00:40:24,650
And you deal with specifically those programs that are fun that are, you know what I

566
00:40:24,650 --> 00:40:24,690
mean?

567
00:40:24,690 --> 00:40:27,450
everybody goes and they run and they do all those things, thank you for that, because

568
00:40:27,450 --> 00:40:28,790
that's part of the overall.

569
00:40:28,970 --> 00:40:33,870
I wanted everybody to also understand that we are moving to a high-screening health care

570
00:40:33,870 --> 00:40:41,850
plan next year, which is not what she does, but engaging with those local sites to literally

571
00:40:41,850 --> 00:40:46,850
drive the conversations around having your colonoscopies, your mammograms, everything

572
00:40:46,850 --> 00:40:50,490
else to make sure that the percentages of the people who are taking them take

573
00:40:50,490 --> 00:40:53,970
them, because we're finding that the people who don't take them are coming in at

574
00:40:53,970 --> 00:40:57,050
stage 3s and 4s, cancers and stuff like that, we got to catch those early, right?

575
00:40:57,510 --> 00:41:01,370
So I wanted to say this is a real specific good portion of our plan and thank you so

576
00:41:01,370 --> 00:41:04,530
much for coming in front of us and talking about the 5Ks and everything else.

577
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:09,310
The reduction in diabetes, we appreciate that because getting that information out is great.

578
00:41:09,790 --> 00:41:15,090
I do concur with Mrs. Campbell in the fact that we could help drive this a little bit

579
00:41:15,090 --> 00:41:19,150
more and I'm guilty as anybody else by not promoting what you do, so I look forward

580
00:41:19,150 --> 00:41:19,810
to working with you.

581
00:41:20,110 --> 00:41:20,730
Thank you.

582
00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:21,070
Thank you.

583
00:41:21,070 --> 00:41:25,750
Yes, and I definitely do agree and we will try to get some of that education out of those

584
00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:26,630
health screenings.

585
00:41:26,670 --> 00:41:28,930
We really want to collaborate to get all of those numbers.

586
00:41:28,950 --> 00:41:30,630
Yeah, we're going to work on it too.

587
00:41:30,830 --> 00:41:35,850
I think the idea is that we have to honor the people that are at each one of the locations

588
00:41:36,290 --> 00:41:39,930
to give them a little bit more revenue so that they become the point contact for everybody

589
00:41:39,930 --> 00:41:40,210
else.

590
00:41:40,610 --> 00:41:41,530
And then we move from there.

591
00:41:41,610 --> 00:41:44,990
I would also say that some of our fairs that we could set up, we could also set

592
00:41:44,990 --> 00:41:49,090
up with our health first and other partners to have those educational pieces.

593
00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:50,330
Because you're only one person, right?

594
00:41:50,330 --> 00:41:56,030
So we create that but that's all in part of what we're doing and Ryan. I appreciate all your work. Thank you

595
00:41:58,130 --> 00:41:58,870
You'll notice

596
00:42:00,910 --> 00:42:05,650
Challenge with kind of a two-prong effect one of its educational and other parts actual physical rights

597
00:42:05,650 --> 00:42:09,470
We're going to educate our employees and we were actually getting moving and then she's also been

598
00:42:10,510 --> 00:42:11,030
championed with

599
00:42:11,830 --> 00:42:13,910
Really working with our world's coordinators at the sites

600
00:42:14,330 --> 00:42:17,490
Like you said the more people we get involved better just really getting people moving

601
00:42:17,490 --> 00:42:21,570
It's more of the amounts prevention, pound of cure type of mentality.

602
00:42:23,310 --> 00:42:29,090
We did secure some funding out of our last end of year, sign of dollars last year, so

603
00:42:29,090 --> 00:42:32,890
we did secure some funding to give some more money to our wellness champions at the sites.

604
00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:35,590
With that we're going to be asking them to do a little bit more.

605
00:42:36,310 --> 00:42:41,330
We also, the big flags are the new things, so we bought some wellness flags for each

606
00:42:41,330 --> 00:42:45,040
site, so when there's a wellness activity going on, when they walk into school they're

607
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,380
to see the wellness activity flag,

608
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:47,680
and what we're doing something today,

609
00:42:47,740 --> 00:42:49,340
what are we doing, that type of thing.

610
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,800
It's just all, again, trying to educate our employees

611
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,180
and then also just get them moving.

612
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,420
Yep, each, you know how the teacher's union

613
00:42:57,420 --> 00:42:59,180
stands up and gives a presentation

614
00:42:59,180 --> 00:43:01,540
to every faculty meeting and stuff like that.

615
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,560
Our wellness coordinators pretty soon

616
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,120
will start to do that on various things.

617
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,180
So we'll be executing 86 schools at the same time

618
00:43:09,180 --> 00:43:11,180
as you have SIGNA and everybody else working.

619
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,400
It's gonna be amazing, so it's all coming.

620
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:14,440
Thank you.

621
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,500
Thank you. Have a wonderful day.

622
00:43:24,060 --> 00:43:28,580
Ryan, if you can give an update on the BEXA that is happening because I'm getting a lot of calls.

623
00:43:28,780 --> 00:43:45,100
So BEXA is our breast cancer screening that we're doing at the sites where a vendor's coming, a BEXA vendor's coming in and they're going to be doing painless, no radiation,

624
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:52,260
rest exams for our employees 35 and older really trying to again focus on those

625
00:43:52,260 --> 00:43:57,540
catching them early so that's why we we lowered it down to 35. We were to start

626
00:43:57,540 --> 00:44:01,260
here in February I thought maybe it'd be best if we started here at the ESF so we

627
00:44:01,260 --> 00:44:05,140
could work through any kinks before we start pushing them out to the sites. We

628
00:44:05,140 --> 00:44:10,500
had we had I believe it was 40, 48 or something like that appointments for over

629
00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:17,960
three days and it was so that we opened it at 10 by noon all the slots were taken so if

630
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:24,320
we have that kind of support at the schools we might revisit different sites to just make

631
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:29,140
sure everybody gets this opportunity. What the back say is it's not a substitute for

632
00:44:29,140 --> 00:44:34,220
a mammogram it's more of a confidence check. It allows you to feel good that they didn't

633
00:44:34,220 --> 00:44:39,800
see any abnormalities in your breast tissue and if they do then you do have to go on

634
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,140
that's your caregiver, but we've also, with that,

635
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,140
we've partnered with Lantern, who's going to also help

636
00:44:47,140 --> 00:44:48,900
walk people through those types of things.

637
00:44:49,060 --> 00:44:51,720
So really, some great things we're providing

638
00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:52,380
for our employees.

639
00:44:52,740 --> 00:44:54,280
And the way it works, just so you guys know,

640
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,760
is that a mammogram is done in a certain way

641
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,400
that is invasive to female.

642
00:44:58,740 --> 00:44:59,880
This is to capture the.

643
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,580
We have 30 extra percent of people who aren't taking those mammograms. And it's done with a

644
00:45:04,580 --> 00:45:09,840
small device. It's done in under 30 minutes, non-invasive, and it has a 2 percent follow-up.

645
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:15,060
So we're excited. I heard that the numbers were pretty good. There are some people, just

646
00:45:15,060 --> 00:45:19,480
so you guys know if you ask around, that currently have family members. And one of the issues

647
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:25,140
we're dealing with right now is that the screening protocol is above 40 years old.

648
00:45:25,300 --> 00:45:28,860
A woman only has to go every two years to get a screening. But we know a lot of

649
00:45:28,860 --> 00:45:34,580
people who have but we know a lot of people who have actually contracted

650
00:45:34,580 --> 00:45:39,500
cancer in between the first and second year and that's part of this is to

651
00:45:39,500 --> 00:45:44,380
allow those individuals that if they want to get a really nice check they

652
00:45:44,380 --> 00:45:47,960
can go do that and it also is to capture those 30% of women who have not

653
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,020
taken their breast exams. So thank you so much Dr. Rendell thank you for

654
00:45:51,020 --> 00:45:53,600
spearheading this and we appreciate it. Just to clarify if nobody else has

655
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,540
figured it out basically we were taking the service to the employees to the

656
00:45:57,540 --> 00:46:01,620
work site. Yep. It's similar to like when we offer flu shots, you know, you can go get

657
00:46:01,620 --> 00:46:05,220
your flu shot at a clinic, but you have to take time out of your day to go do that. So

658
00:46:05,220 --> 00:46:09,640
when we offer flu shots at the work site, the appointments tend to fill up. So it's

659
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,160
the same sort of thing. We're bringing the service to the employees' work site. So they

660
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,780
don't have to take time off to go anywhere for teachers that could be done during their

661
00:46:16,780 --> 00:46:20,340
planning period or, you know, before school, after school, during lunch, that kind

662
00:46:20,340 --> 00:46:24,240
of thing. So take it to service directly to our employees so that they don't have

663
00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:29,860
to go out and do it on their own and hopefully, you know, we'll catch anybody early so that

664
00:46:29,860 --> 00:46:31,740
they can receive the proper treatment.

665
00:46:32,020 --> 00:46:37,410
And that's the other thing about, that's the other thing about it is that once somebody

666
00:46:37,410 --> 00:46:42,810
is found as part of that 2% that's found positive, the speed to care is that much quicker.

667
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:48,010
And that's something that we've been working on, and I'll just be completely honest,

668
00:46:48,170 --> 00:46:51,710
when I had my health issues, SIGNA does not receive that claim.

669
00:46:51,870 --> 00:46:52,630
So here's what happens.

670
00:46:52,630 --> 00:46:55,950
I have a health issue, say, on November 1st.

671
00:46:55,950 --> 00:47:01,910
Cigna does not receive that claim from our carriers, our hospital networks, for between

672
00:47:01,910 --> 00:47:02,890
30 to 60 days.

673
00:47:03,350 --> 00:47:07,110
While that's happening, I've already gone to all of my proceedings, I've already done

674
00:47:07,110 --> 00:47:10,730
all my stuff, so by the time Cigna engages, it's 30 to 60 days later.

675
00:47:10,870 --> 00:47:12,850
It's not a very, you know, engaging opportunity.

676
00:47:13,270 --> 00:47:17,670
So we're trying to reduce that amount of time to care and to have those people engage.

677
00:47:17,830 --> 00:47:18,970
That's what Lantern Care is.

678
00:47:19,310 --> 00:47:20,290
That's what BEXA is.

679
00:47:20,290 --> 00:47:24,490
that's what our our wellness centers are those those opportunities and it's no

680
00:47:24,490 --> 00:47:27,630
no shout-out to signa at all this is just when they receive it and that's

681
00:47:27,630 --> 00:47:30,670
when they're supposed to so we're also working with the hospital networks to

682
00:47:30,670 --> 00:47:34,070
reduce that amount of time from the time that you have somebody go in and be

683
00:47:34,070 --> 00:47:37,830
test positive for something or have to come back to the time of treatment it

684
00:47:37,830 --> 00:47:41,390
significantly saves because every stage of cancer is another hundred thousand

685
00:47:41,390 --> 00:47:45,630
dollars in cost and anxiety and lost time off of work and everything else so

686
00:47:45,630 --> 00:47:49,270
that's why this is important that's that's what this attacks and that's

687
00:47:49,270 --> 00:47:52,010
That's why it's important. So thank you so much, Mr. DeFranc. Appreciate it.

688
00:47:52,130 --> 00:47:52,370
Thank you.

689
00:47:52,950 --> 00:47:56,430
All right, Dr. Rindell, do you want me to take this one or you got it?

690
00:47:57,310 --> 00:48:01,890
So thank you, Mr. Chair. The next is a discussion of the Greater Florida Consortium of School Boards.

691
00:48:01,930 --> 00:48:07,270
We are a member of that consortium. They're proposed federal legislative program or agenda.

692
00:48:08,330 --> 00:48:09,990
I'm going to turn it over to Mrs. Campbell.

693
00:48:10,130 --> 00:48:16,210
But in short, as a member district, we get to review the legislative agenda or platform program.

694
00:48:16,210 --> 00:48:21,370
and if we have any part of the platform that we disagree with they will remove it

695
00:48:21,370 --> 00:48:26,710
but we have to review that so given Mrs. Campbell the opportunity to take it from

696
00:48:26,710 --> 00:48:26,850
here.

697
00:48:29,890 --> 00:48:34,290
So we just like we did with the state legislative agenda if there's

698
00:48:34,290 --> 00:48:38,030
anything we can't remember we can't edit right any line it's either like a

699
00:48:38,030 --> 00:48:41,830
whole item comes out I'll I in reviewing this I didn't really see

700
00:48:41,830 --> 00:48:45,630
anything that I had a problem with every single one of them is a funding

701
00:48:45,630 --> 00:48:51,650
thing is either to clarify or to shore up. I do want to point out because this

702
00:48:51,650 --> 00:48:56,070
has been a part of the CASVA, which is our federal, FSBA is part of the federal

703
00:48:56,070 --> 00:49:00,690
organization, or the National Organization CASVA, consortium of state

704
00:49:00,690 --> 00:49:05,870
school board association associations. They have this about IDEA. Just one

705
00:49:05,870 --> 00:49:09,750
thing, the IDEA law actually says that the federal

706
00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:14,850
government will support, full funding is 40%, and then the states have to

707
00:49:14,850 --> 00:49:19,450
make up the other 60%. It's never been 40%. It's like 15%. So the states are having to

708
00:49:19,450 --> 00:49:22,270
make up the rest of that funding or districts are having to make up the rest of that funding.

709
00:49:22,310 --> 00:49:26,370
So that's why that clarification is. COSFA has asked for that every year, the consortium

710
00:49:26,370 --> 00:49:29,250
asking for the federal government to do what they actually wrote in the law. They said

711
00:49:29,250 --> 00:49:36,350
they would do it, which is to cover IDA, which is our special ESE services funding

712
00:49:36,750 --> 00:49:42,010
at this federal full funding amount, which is 40%. So I did not see anything, but if

713
00:49:42,010 --> 00:49:46,290
If any board member has anything, we want to make sure we vote on it tonight.

714
00:49:46,510 --> 00:49:50,310
It's on our agenda tonight to vote on as is or with any changes that we make today.

715
00:49:50,790 --> 00:49:56,990
And then we can respond to the consortium, let them know that we reviewed it, and we're

716
00:49:57,650 --> 00:49:58,210
good to go.

717
00:49:58,330 --> 00:49:58,630
We have changes.

718
00:50:01,110 --> 00:50:04,810
I received some calls on this one, but the things that were mentioned were not inside

719
00:50:04,810 --> 00:50:06,050
of the document that is here.

720
00:50:06,270 --> 00:50:07,590
So I think I'm okay with what it is.

721
00:50:07,670 --> 00:50:08,690
Anybody else have any other questions?

722
00:50:08,890 --> 00:50:09,130
Yeah, no.

723
00:50:09,210 --> 00:50:10,770
I didn't have any issues with any of the items.

724
00:50:10,770 --> 00:50:11,230
Actually, no.

725
00:50:12,290 --> 00:50:18,270
We can only remove we can't right right if you want to add you got to go to the meeting in the in the fall

726
00:50:18,270 --> 00:50:23,230
This is actually a new thing. I don't think they've done a federal one before with the consortium

727
00:50:23,230 --> 00:50:26,790
So when it comes time next year for them to develop it

728
00:50:27,530 --> 00:50:30,350
They're going to do it. I think on the same weekend when they do it

729
00:50:30,350 --> 00:50:35,310
It's an August when the consortium meets to develop their legislative platform. So be great

730
00:50:35,310 --> 00:50:37,870
If you're interested, any of us can go and be apart.

731
00:50:40,730 --> 00:50:42,730
So if no changes, then we'll just leave that item

732
00:50:42,730 --> 00:50:45,990
for the agenda tonight to officially approve

733
00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:47,810
on the action agenda, I think it is.

734
00:50:48,010 --> 00:50:51,630
And then after that, then I'll be happy to email,

735
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:53,050
I forgot his name,

736
00:50:55,310 --> 00:50:56,030
whoever it is,

737
00:50:56,070 --> 00:50:56,910
that sent us this email.

738
00:50:57,670 --> 00:51:00,810
I have too many emails in my box right now

739
00:51:00,810 --> 00:51:03,250
and let him know that we officially voted

740
00:51:03,250 --> 00:51:04,770
to approve it tonight, thanks.

741
00:51:05,230 --> 00:51:07,010
Or his secretary, is there one?

742
00:51:07,210 --> 00:51:07,430
Yeah.

743
00:51:07,790 --> 00:51:08,150
Okay.

744
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:09,170
Is it Tom Sarah from?

745
00:51:09,330 --> 00:51:09,470
Yep.

746
00:51:09,470 --> 00:51:09,910
Thank you.

747
00:51:10,250 --> 00:51:10,850
That's the name.

748
00:51:11,150 --> 00:51:11,450
Tom Sarah.

749
00:51:12,530 --> 00:51:14,230
No, Tom, she does all the work.

750
00:51:14,470 --> 00:51:16,430
And I don't mind publicly telling that to Tom.

751
00:51:16,770 --> 00:51:18,570
So we'll be sending an email to her.

752
00:51:19,110 --> 00:51:19,570
So thank you.

753
00:51:20,230 --> 00:51:21,110
All right.

754
00:51:21,250 --> 00:51:23,290
Next up is our general counsel's evaluation.

755
00:51:24,210 --> 00:51:25,950
I know some of you guys wanted to have some changes.

756
00:51:26,090 --> 00:51:31,190
I appreciate Ms. Wright and others who have spearheaded this effort and said that,

757
00:51:31,230 --> 00:51:32,690
you know what I mean, there's some changes that we need.

758
00:51:32,750 --> 00:51:33,230
We all agreed.

759
00:51:33,230 --> 00:51:39,430
So now is the opportunity to do so, so that we can have an effective change to the contract and stuff like that.

760
00:51:39,650 --> 00:51:49,610
Mr. Gibbs had indicated that some of the changes that you guys had wanted to make in the past could be changed on his evaluation this year and be part of it.

761
00:51:49,650 --> 00:51:56,490
But I still want to give him that opportunity that if we make changes to the contract, being the fact that we're almost two-thirds of the way through the contract,

762
00:51:56,590 --> 00:52:01,710
that if it's something that he doesn't feel like we could substantially evaluate him and give a true score on,

763
00:52:01,710 --> 00:52:05,430
And then I think that give him the opportunity to voice those concerns.

764
00:52:05,730 --> 00:52:08,750
And I have no problem pushing those, if they do, to the next evaluation.

765
00:52:09,210 --> 00:52:12,830
So with that said, I'd like to give the floor to whoever wants to go first.

766
00:52:12,990 --> 00:52:16,210
And any evaluation changes, as I am the chair, and always go last.

767
00:52:17,310 --> 00:52:20,670
Okay, you and Ms. Campbell have your stuff ready in the hands.

768
00:52:20,850 --> 00:52:22,930
So I think you were the ones.

769
00:52:25,630 --> 00:52:30,290
Okay, thank you, thank you, Lena, for collecting the evaluations from the other surrounding counties.

770
00:52:30,290 --> 00:52:31,670
I think there were some good ideas and some things

771
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:33,230
that we could pull into our evaluation.

772
00:52:33,690 --> 00:52:36,010
I'll be the first one to say I absolutely hate smartsheets,

773
00:52:36,010 --> 00:52:37,950
so I'm not a fan of that platform,

774
00:52:38,030 --> 00:52:39,530
and it's probably a me issue

775
00:52:39,530 --> 00:52:41,070
because of the technology there, whatever.

776
00:52:41,890 --> 00:52:44,150
When I went through the different evaluations

777
00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:45,730
that were available to us,

778
00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:47,310
there were some good things that I liked

779
00:52:47,310 --> 00:52:48,550
that I think we should bring in.

780
00:52:49,450 --> 00:52:51,650
Honestly, Pinellas, which looks like, I guess,

781
00:52:51,970 --> 00:52:53,710
this one that's printed out.

782
00:52:53,890 --> 00:52:55,410
This is Lee.

783
00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:56,570
Okay, is that Lee?

784
00:52:56,730 --> 00:52:56,950
All right, sorry.

785
00:52:57,090 --> 00:52:58,950
Pinellas is the one that I really liked.

786
00:52:59,390 --> 00:53:01,250
I'm like, every single one of those questions

787
00:53:01,250 --> 00:53:02,750
really pertains to our relationship

788
00:53:03,250 --> 00:53:05,030
with our school board attorney.

789
00:53:05,290 --> 00:53:07,990
I felt like that evaluation was spot on.

790
00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:09,570
The one thing I didn't see in there

791
00:53:09,990 --> 00:53:13,670
that I would like to see is that there,

792
00:53:14,290 --> 00:53:17,290
I think OCPS was the one that had a note

793
00:53:17,290 --> 00:53:19,810
about developing leadership in subordinates

794
00:53:19,810 --> 00:53:20,450
that are under you.

795
00:53:20,510 --> 00:53:22,070
I think that's a good skill that any good leader

796
00:53:22,070 --> 00:53:23,910
should do is they should work with the team

797
00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:25,550
that's under them to help rise them up, right?

798
00:53:25,550 --> 00:53:30,210
I think that should be an evaluation part of this and I also like the fact that they

799
00:53:30,210 --> 00:53:34,650
had not observed because there are times when we do pulse evaluation and I'm like, well,

800
00:53:34,650 --> 00:53:38,010
I don't know and I don't have a not observed, we can only evaluate one, two, three, or four

801
00:53:38,790 --> 00:53:42,830
and there's no way for me to say NA, you've got to give it something, right, and then

802
00:53:42,830 --> 00:53:46,570
that kind of goes against him so I think that we need to be able to have that option

803
00:53:46,570 --> 00:53:47,850
of not observed in here.

804
00:53:49,150 --> 00:53:52,750
My personal feelings are if we were going to pick any of these to kind of duplicate

805
00:53:53,210 --> 00:54:04,690
I really, really like Pinellas, and there was literally, I think with the exception of deleting 3.3 and 3.4, I think those were specific to Pinellas, I'm not really sure.

806
00:54:05,230 --> 00:54:07,110
Are you talking about, are there 3.3?

807
00:54:07,110 --> 00:54:10,850
Yeah, I'm like, I'm not sure what this, I don't know what that is, so.

808
00:54:12,770 --> 00:54:16,170
Does that mean, yeah, that looks like it's specific to them, but other than that.

809
00:54:16,190 --> 00:54:20,590
Yeah, I think there was also, is this the one that also had, made reference to a newsletter?

810
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:28,030
Yes 4.8 yes 4.8 and I was like and I that's probably not a necessary thing to

811
00:54:28,030 --> 00:54:32,090
do I do like the the update though I mean if there's legal models that are

812
00:54:32,090 --> 00:54:35,230
pertaining to school boards you know litigation that's pending things that are

813
00:54:35,230 --> 00:54:39,190
going on that are it's going to impact us that's useful for us to know ahead

814
00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:43,050
of time so we can get ahead of a policy that we might need to change or

815
00:54:43,050 --> 00:54:46,130
create or whatever so that's really where I land on this is if I were

816
00:54:46,130 --> 00:54:49,210
gonna pick in these evaluation tools I would take Pinellas and I would

817
00:54:49,210 --> 00:54:54,450
delete 3.3 and 3.4 if the board obviously asking Paul to create a newsletter

818
00:54:54,450 --> 00:54:59,330
might be he might go one more thing lovely so that may not be something that

819
00:54:59,330 --> 00:55:04,730
you have interest in doing and then also to make sure we have the ability to to

820
00:55:04,730 --> 00:55:09,250
say not observed and the evaluation tool so that it doesn't go against him

821
00:55:09,830 --> 00:55:11,330
because we didn't see it

822
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:20,480
go ahead okay yep there's three things that I

823
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:24,140
I definitely want to see as we are moving forward.

824
00:55:24,860 --> 00:55:27,340
One is I think we need to go to a five point scale.

825
00:55:27,580 --> 00:55:29,080
We have a four point scale now,

826
00:55:29,220 --> 00:55:30,800
which is in contrast to what we do

827
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,080
for the superintendent's evaluation.

828
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:33,300
We use a five point scale.

829
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:34,640
And I think it makes sense

830
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:39,080
because we have a little extra wiggle room,

831
00:55:40,620 --> 00:55:43,260
because it's always hard where do you put that four,

832
00:55:43,340 --> 00:55:43,980
three, two, one.

833
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:45,640
So I think a five point scale is better,

834
00:55:47,580 --> 00:55:52,480
which the one that I asked Lena to print for everybody is this one that's the Lee

835
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:57,160
County one and I also asked her to print Paul's last one so we can take a look

836
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:02,800
we can have that fresh in our minds but the the Pinellas one also has a five

837
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:08,060
point scale but what it has is both the Lee County and the Pinellas one

838
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:15,620
simplify it in that you're giving a score for a whole category rather than

839
00:56:15,620 --> 00:56:18,660
and a score for every, actually the Lee County one does it.

840
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:20,280
The Pinellas one has it,

841
00:56:20,380 --> 00:56:21,780
you're giving a score for a whole category.

842
00:56:22,740 --> 00:56:25,020
So, which makes it a little bit simpler for us,

843
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:27,920
but I also like the not observed

844
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:32,000
if we're going to do line item by line item.

845
00:56:32,180 --> 00:56:34,100
I think it would, you would need not observed

846
00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:35,980
if you're gonna give a score for a whole category.

847
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:38,420
But if we're gonna do something

848
00:56:38,420 --> 00:56:40,100
like what we have currently,

849
00:56:41,140 --> 00:56:43,560
or like the Lee County one that asked me

850
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:44,360
to print for us,

851
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:45,760
I think we definitely need to have not observed.

852
00:56:46,580 --> 00:56:47,600
So that would be one thing.

853
00:56:47,700 --> 00:56:49,600
Five point scale, not observed.

854
00:56:50,020 --> 00:56:52,200
But then the other thing is we have in the past

855
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:56,100
asked cabinet to do anonymous, to ask them

856
00:56:56,100 --> 00:57:00,380
to kind of give their feedback on the general counsel

857
00:57:00,900 --> 00:57:04,220
because then, and then we get those kind of summed together,

858
00:57:04,460 --> 00:57:06,020
then they send it to us before we do it.

859
00:57:06,060 --> 00:57:07,300
So we get his self-evaluation,

860
00:57:07,580 --> 00:57:08,560
gets what the cabinet has to say

861
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:09,520
because then some of the things

862
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,600
that we haven't observed, we get the cabinet to say,

863
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,620
yes, Paul is doing this, this, and this,

864
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:15,980
which sometimes is behind the scenes.

865
00:57:16,860 --> 00:57:18,820
Maybe now that we have assistant general counsel,

866
00:57:18,860 --> 00:57:19,940
that's not as necessary,

867
00:57:19,940 --> 00:57:21,320
because before the general counsel

868
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,820
was kind of having to sometimes do dual roles.

869
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:26,900
But that's a possibility.

870
00:57:27,900 --> 00:57:33,160
But I liked LEED because it did have,

871
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:37,620
just seemed a little bit simpler,

872
00:57:37,820 --> 00:57:39,500
and I feel like from what we did,

873
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:40,740
I was trying to think of the objections

874
00:57:40,740 --> 00:57:42,500
that the board had to what we're using.

875
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,100
I feel like one, going to a five point scale

876
00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:46,540
and two, getting some staff feedback

877
00:57:46,540 --> 00:57:48,520
would help us with some of the problems we had with it.

878
00:57:49,580 --> 00:57:51,660
But Lee seemed simple.

879
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,180
The only thing that I have a problem with Lee

880
00:57:54,180 --> 00:57:56,480
is if you look at 3C,

881
00:57:57,020 --> 00:57:59,220
it says effectively represents the board with the public

882
00:57:59,220 --> 00:58:00,620
and we do not have the expectation

883
00:58:00,620 --> 00:58:03,020
that our general counsel will be going out to the public

884
00:58:03,020 --> 00:58:04,080
and talking on our behalf.

885
00:58:04,340 --> 00:58:05,540
That's not, in his job description,

886
00:58:06,100 --> 00:58:07,800
that's the chair and the superintendent's role.

887
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:09,840
So it definitely would not,

888
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,240
And some of the other ones, I can't remember if Pinellas had,

889
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:12,700
I'll have to look.

890
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,800
Some of the other ones also had that role.

891
00:58:15,780 --> 00:58:17,240
So I definitely don't want to remove anything

892
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,700
that talked about the general counsel going out

893
00:58:19,700 --> 00:58:20,360
and talking to the public.

894
00:58:21,580 --> 00:58:24,620
Yeah, I'm okay with Pinellas.

895
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,540
I just wanted us to go to something simpler.

896
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,060
Well, let me ask you this.

897
00:58:29,140 --> 00:58:30,860
What if we took the same type of formatting

898
00:58:30,860 --> 00:58:34,520
that Lee has here, like the performance one,

899
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,420
and then, so we just imposed the,

900
00:58:38,420 --> 00:58:41,440
I really like the questions that Pinellis asked.

901
00:58:41,620 --> 00:58:42,640
I think that those ones were,

902
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,760
it's a little more in-depth than Lee's.

903
00:58:45,860 --> 00:58:47,300
I think, I mean, Lee's is very,

904
00:58:48,740 --> 00:58:50,380
I wrote, it's very minimal,

905
00:58:50,660 --> 00:58:52,660
like it's a simple form and it's easy,

906
00:58:52,780 --> 00:58:55,440
but I think this one covers a lot.

907
00:58:56,140 --> 00:58:56,940
So what if we did that?

908
00:58:57,020 --> 00:58:58,540
What if we just took and plugged in

909
00:58:58,540 --> 00:59:01,900
what is written in here under Pinellis

910
00:59:01,900 --> 00:59:03,320
into the format of Lee?

911
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:04,260
Does that make sense?

912
00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:06,900
So that we're giving a score on every,

913
00:59:07,380 --> 00:59:10,000
Why would it end up being the same kind of?

914
00:59:10,900 --> 00:59:12,840
And then we're kind of going back to what we have now,

915
00:59:12,900 --> 00:59:14,080
except for the five-point scale.

916
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,420
I mean, what's the difference between Pinellas

917
00:59:17,420 --> 00:59:19,500
and what we have now, except for the five-point scale

918
00:59:19,500 --> 00:59:20,340
versus the four-point scale?

919
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:21,760
It's not on a smart sheet.

920
00:59:21,860 --> 00:59:22,640
That's a major one for me.

921
00:59:23,780 --> 00:59:24,940
Other than formatting.

922
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:26,180
The formatting.

923
00:59:27,980 --> 00:59:29,460
The problems with a smart sheet

924
00:59:29,460 --> 00:59:31,140
are just technological things.

925
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,000
I think we can get past just some growing curves.

926
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:34,760
Yeah.

927
00:59:35,660 --> 00:59:39,440
Well, and again, some of these questions like what we have, and this has been my biggest

928
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,540
argument along with, these are questions we can't answer because we don't interact with

929
00:59:43,540 --> 00:59:44,520
Mr. Gibson these manners.

930
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,320
So I'm like, how are we supposed to answer that question?

931
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:47,480
Which is what I have written to.

932
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:47,700
Right.

933
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,300
So that's why I just think that the questions that are on his evaluation needs to pertain

934
00:59:52,300 --> 00:59:55,760
to the relationship we have with the school board's attorney and the duties

935
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,600
that he carries out on behalf of the board, you know, not so much behalf of the

936
00:59:59,600 --> 00:59:59,860
district.

937
01:00:00,050 --> 01:00:04,090
They were more questions that would be posed for the district to ask him, not so much us.

938
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:16,060
I'm in agreement with Ms. Wright as far as Pinellas using that format with the changes that she's offered.

939
01:00:17,500 --> 01:00:21,680
I like the idea of not having them not observed as well because I think that's hugely important.

940
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,500
And I also like the idea of having the staff evaluation ahead of time because if we don't evaluate,

941
01:00:26,660 --> 01:00:31,560
if he doesn't get evaluated on those categories that we don't necessarily see, he's not ever getting,

942
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,860
There's no way that he's not going to be evaluated at all in those categories.

943
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:39,380
So getting some kind of feedback, even if we don't personally observe it, getting some feedback.

944
01:00:40,020 --> 01:00:44,340
So if we see something, we need to do some further investigation on, or what have you, if there's something, we can do that.

945
01:00:44,460 --> 01:00:51,300
But at least we have some feedback because that way he's being evaluated on those categories.

946
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,360
Because if we don't do it, who will, so.

947
01:00:53,620 --> 01:00:53,940
Right.

948
01:00:59,430 --> 01:01:02,250
If I may on that topic, it's kind of difficult, right?

949
01:01:02,250 --> 01:01:07,270
Because when we ask staff, and I agree with you 100%, if you're going to have it on here,

950
01:01:07,390 --> 01:01:08,830
how are we supposed to know what they're saying?

951
01:01:09,970 --> 01:01:16,210
But it is indicative of possibly one or two or three people giving their voice when not other people.

952
01:01:16,510 --> 01:01:21,590
I'm along the lines with Megan that a lot of these don't even pertain to our daily operation,

953
01:01:21,810 --> 01:01:24,210
and some of them should be removed, you know what I mean?

954
01:01:25,030 --> 01:01:27,110
I would like to hear back from people.

955
01:01:27,110 --> 01:01:34,010
I think what we should do is if we're going to say it, not just does he work collaboratively with school and district personnel,

956
01:01:34,130 --> 01:01:38,850
but maybe we develop a couple of questions for them to actually fill out maybe and give an example and stuff like that.

957
01:01:38,910 --> 01:01:43,330
Does that make sense to you? So that they can actually refer back and then we can have some sustainable.

958
01:01:43,850 --> 01:01:47,250
Or we just nix the entire question and so we're worried about it and we ask.

959
01:01:48,030 --> 01:01:52,370
As an important category though, as far as how you interact with the staff, we don't get some kind of feedback.

960
01:01:53,110 --> 01:01:57,770
I just want it just like everybody else. I want it to be sustained like you know

961
01:01:57,770 --> 01:01:59,250
We have to have some metrics on it

962
01:01:59,250 --> 01:02:02,990
And I think that's fair to either do it the right way or pull it right now

963
01:02:02,990 --> 01:02:03,810
So that's up to you guys

964
01:02:03,810 --> 01:02:09,310
What I was thinking was actually would send them whatever tool we end up like we send them the tool

965
01:02:09,310 --> 01:02:10,590
To see you fill it out

966
01:02:10,590 --> 01:02:15,950
And then we don't have to ask specific questions and they can also have the not observed option also

967
01:02:17,250 --> 01:02:20,230
Send them the tool of this this whatever tool we said

968
01:02:22,090 --> 01:02:26,590
Right, well that's what I'm saying, if we add the not observed, if we're going to do like

969
01:02:26,590 --> 01:02:30,710
Ms. Wright said and instead of doing one at the bottom where you circle one through five,

970
01:02:30,910 --> 01:02:35,390
which is super extra simple, actually don't mind that one either, but if you want to do

971
01:02:35,390 --> 01:02:40,370
a one through five on every item and include the not observed option, they would have that

972
01:02:40,370 --> 01:02:43,050
too, and we'll have to figure out how to do the math with us.

973
01:02:43,370 --> 01:02:46,850
I mean really, we don't really see the superintendent on a daily basis how he

974
01:02:46,850 --> 01:02:50,530
interacts with staff, but we have more interaction with the staff, his staff on a

975
01:02:50,530 --> 01:02:54,030
daily basis to get an idea of how he interacts. You know, we may not have this

976
01:02:54,030 --> 01:02:59,590
much interactive interaction with Mr. Gibb's staff. So there's got to be some

977
01:02:59,590 --> 01:03:02,290
way of getting that information and being able to evaluate it.

978
01:03:03,270 --> 01:03:06,450
Would you like to give Dr. Rindell the opportunity, since it's his

979
01:03:06,450 --> 01:03:10,530
staff, to kind of come up with a plan in that regard? Would that be appropriate?

980
01:03:10,750 --> 01:03:12,310
Oh, for getting the fee in the background cabinet.

981
01:03:12,330 --> 01:03:15,510
Yeah, because I think that his interactions are different than ours.

982
01:03:15,510 --> 01:03:20,150
he might have a better understanding of that. Just a thought, Dr. Adele, sorry to throw you

983
01:03:20,150 --> 01:03:24,570
on the mat. No, I feel like if you, if there were two questions or whatever sets of questions

984
01:03:24,570 --> 01:03:28,950
for interactions with staff or relationships with staff or responsiveness, whatever those

985
01:03:28,950 --> 01:03:33,970
questions are, we could give those out to the cabinet members and his direct staff.

986
01:03:34,270 --> 01:03:39,990
They could rate and then we'd give you an overall rating to share. And you guys could

987
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:52,760
So Mr. Gibbs, you have any thoughts about the Pinellas plan and adjusting it as we talk about?

988
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:59,220
I looked over all the ones that were provided and I think Lee is very short and succinct.

989
01:03:59,660 --> 01:04:02,860
Some of it, like you mentioned, I don't think applies to me so much.

990
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:07,380
Like the public and news media, even Pinellas, I think has one about news media.

991
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:08,500
It does, 4.3.

992
01:04:08,820 --> 01:04:10,820
That's something I don't do.

993
01:04:10,820 --> 01:04:18,540
I always no comment whenever media questions come up. That's the way I prefer our legal issues to be handled outside of the media

994
01:04:18,540 --> 01:04:22,360
We don't litigate the media. I know we have a staff

995
01:04:22,900 --> 01:04:27,800
Who are charged with the media interactions, and I yeah, I think everything over there

996
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:33,940
I don't think any but any media stuff needs to be I think something that I didn't really see in any of this is like

997
01:04:34,460 --> 01:04:39,520
Responsibility for checking on agenda items. I mean that's something that is directly impacting the board

998
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:45,100
So I would there's my side is I think you should look to add some sort of

999
01:04:45,940 --> 01:04:46,980
like agenda

1000
01:04:48,660 --> 01:04:55,540
Responsible issues there, and then I also had some other ones that I that I thought were pertaining specifically to you that we are a little bit

1001
01:04:58,420 --> 01:05:07,680
But if you guys so I'm hearing five point scale not observed feedback on the general counsel from staff, right and then

1002
01:05:09,740 --> 01:05:15,300
utilizing the Pinellas questions inside of the Lee format is kind of what you

1003
01:05:15,300 --> 01:05:18,520
wanted. I think that that would be good. We're gonna have to strike some of the

1004
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:23,320
several of these. So 3.3, 3.4, 4.3, those are all gonna have to come out. 4.8

1005
01:05:24,140 --> 01:05:29,060
marked down also. 4.8 unless he wants to make a newsletter that's you know. I

1006
01:05:29,060 --> 01:05:33,080
don't think I don't think Paul needs any extra work. But if you they have a whole

1007
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:38,360
office staff full of people. They have more than I have. If there's a

1008
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:43,100
But if there's a way that you guys can email in what changes you would like, right?

1009
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:43,480
Okay.

1010
01:05:43,700 --> 01:05:47,680
And then Paul and I, if you guys would give me the respect, I'll meet with Paul,

1011
01:05:48,220 --> 01:05:51,940
kind of put it all together, resend it back out to you guys for a final go ahead.

1012
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,220
And then would you let us like to bring it to the next school board meeting for

1013
01:05:55,220 --> 01:05:58,640
final approval, or do you guys want to just do it, approve it through the emails?

1014
01:05:59,140 --> 01:06:02,880
Well, the only thing that we didn't, sorry, the only thing we didn't hammer out.

1015
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:07,900
If we're going to, we kind of all agree to remove 3.3, 3.4, 4.3, and 4.8.

1016
01:06:08,140 --> 01:06:12,780
If you wanted to add an item, let's just do that right now.

1017
01:06:12,980 --> 01:06:17,560
And then you guys, all you guys are doing is formatting, because I think we can kind of get approval and not have to wait.

1018
01:06:17,780 --> 01:06:23,780
One of the, Manatee has a line in there that I really would like to see on there, but the school board attorney is effective and helpful during meetings.

1019
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,240
I think that's useful, because he's obviously, we need to know that, right?

1020
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:31,120
It's on the manatee one, but I think it would probably go,

1021
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:32,380
I'm trying to figure out where it would go

1022
01:06:32,380 --> 01:06:34,600
on this format for her.

1023
01:06:37,570 --> 01:06:42,370
It's so standard one, 1.4, he provides

1024
01:06:42,370 --> 01:06:44,030
useful legal counsel during board meetings

1025
01:06:44,030 --> 01:06:46,750
and 1.5, he serves as parliamentarian for the board.

1026
01:06:46,810 --> 01:06:48,050
I think we kind of already have that.

1027
01:06:50,310 --> 01:06:51,610
Okay, yeah, that's true, okay.

1028
01:06:52,090 --> 01:06:53,570
But it would definitely go under standard one.

1029
01:06:53,670 --> 01:06:57,230
But we didn't have, so it wouldn't go

1030
01:06:57,230 --> 01:06:58,730
under accessibility and responsiveness,

1031
01:06:58,730 --> 01:07:05,970
but where would we put that about the agendas?

1032
01:07:06,770 --> 01:07:10,010
You have agendas running all of the other little things in those.

1033
01:07:10,010 --> 01:07:10,770
How would you like to work this?

1034
01:07:13,490 --> 01:07:14,450
Somebody did have it.

1035
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:20,680
So this is only 207.

1036
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,440
I said, let's just get this hammered out and done,

1037
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:24,000
and then we don't have to bring it back,

1038
01:07:24,100 --> 01:07:26,040
and then all that you guys are talking about is like.

1039
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,520
But you guys are going to officially have to vote on that.

1040
01:07:28,580 --> 01:07:29,240
That was my question.

1041
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:30,320
Oh, I don't think we have to vote.

1042
01:07:30,340 --> 01:07:30,700
Come back.

1043
01:07:30,820 --> 01:07:31,120
Cool, really?

1044
01:07:31,500 --> 01:07:31,960
Yeah, we have.

1045
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:35,640
I mean, we want whatever the finalized thing.

1046
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,120
We have to bid in and meeting on it.

1047
01:07:37,260 --> 01:07:38,720
Yeah, so we have to bring it back.

1048
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,380
That's why I was saying there's a couple of little tweaks.

1049
01:07:41,860 --> 01:07:44,680
There's regarding the extra duties,

1050
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:49,320
as far as dealing with the public speaking, the agenda.

1051
01:07:49,980 --> 01:07:50,420
You know what I mean?

1052
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,500
There's notes afterwards that he's taking.

1053
01:07:52,660 --> 01:07:54,800
There's a lot of little things, if you guys will let me add

1054
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:55,300
that with him.

1055
01:07:55,860 --> 01:07:59,260
We can take the 3.3s and 4.8s out of it,

1056
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,700
and then we can put it together and send it to you guys.

1057
01:08:01,700 --> 01:08:05,460
and we can work on emails until it gets finalized right before it.

1058
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:10,180
I don't think there's any substantial changes that we have beyond just adding a couple of

1059
01:08:10,180 --> 01:08:15,820
his regular duties that he has specific to purport, and then also negating what you guys

1060
01:08:15,820 --> 01:08:19,560
have already said and adding the five-point scale not observed in the feedback portion.

1061
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:20,580
I think we're okay with that.

1062
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:25,020
And he may not have the exact wording he wants for the agenda item now, but I would

1063
01:08:25,020 --> 01:08:27,080
just say let him, we're just missing him.

1064
01:08:27,540 --> 01:08:28,480
It has to come back.

1065
01:08:28,480 --> 01:08:38,120
I think we can actually, you know, all approve it through, yes, this looks good to me before it comes back to the next meeting so that we're not coming back and making any kind of conversations.

1066
01:08:38,440 --> 01:08:40,240
It's just, if that was your concern, Ms. Campbell.

1067
01:08:40,340 --> 01:08:47,600
Yeah. No, I'm fine. I did, I found it in Polk, Paul, but it was under suggested evidence and artifacts rather than as an item.

1068
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:52,780
If you do a search for agenda, ensuring legal compliance of agenda items.

1069
01:08:52,940 --> 01:08:56,300
I think that's what you do, but we move it into an item rather than evidence.

1070
01:08:56,300 --> 01:09:01,340
yeah okay that's a critical piece that should be yes we love to see that little

1071
01:09:01,340 --> 01:09:05,600
place where it says legal review check that you you checked it makes us feel

1072
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:06,180
better about it

1073
01:09:08,510 --> 01:09:11,710
okay I guess we got comfortable with this tool I mean I

1074
01:09:11,710 --> 01:09:15,350
obviously this is you so are you comfortable with us I think all of

1075
01:09:15,350 --> 01:09:23,710
them are fine okay okay board did you have anything else that you wanted to

1076
01:09:23,710 --> 01:09:28,610
speak about further to discuss great job on getting it through yeah so

1077
01:09:29,070 --> 01:09:32,690
215 we can make the was it 3 or 3 30 that they have lunch coming for us I think I

1078
01:09:32,690 --> 01:09:38,670
saw there was an email we've got time to sign up for go gold we do you did yeah

1079
01:09:38,670 --> 01:09:43,250
we're good are you gonna sign Paul are you gonna sign up your your dog this

1080
01:09:43,250 --> 01:09:50,730
time since that's where you get all your stuff started all right with that no

1081
01:09:50,730 --> 01:09:53,150
other issues thank you