[0:00] act. If you don't have it, I will read it for you. [0:05] » Uh yes, sir. In accordance with the South Carolina Code of Laws 1976, [0:09] Section 30-4-80 as amended, notification of the meeting [0:14] and the meeting agenda were posted at least 24 hours prior to the meeting on [0:18] the County Council building at a publicly accessible place, on the County [0:22] website, and a copy of the agenda was provided to the local news media and all [0:27] persons or organizations requesting notification. [0:32] » If you would, please join me for the pledge and the invocation. [0:39] I pledge >> to the flag of the United States of [0:43] America. To the republic for which it stands, [0:47] one nation under God, [0:50] indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:55] » All right. Let us pray. Father, thank you for this day and thank [0:58] you for allowing us to gather to make decisions for Jasper County. Guide us [1:03] with our decisions today for the Sheriff's office, [1:06] for the detention center and the betterment of our county. We ask all [1:10] these things in your name. Amen. >> Amen. [1:14] » Um next up is the approval of the agenda. Can I have a motion to approve [1:20] or disapprove uh the agenda? [1:23] » I'll make a motion to approve the agenda. [1:26] » We have a motion by Councilman Van Geison. Do we have a second? [1:31] » Second. >> We have a second by Councilman [1:33] Chiccarelli. All those in favor, please raise your right hand and say I. [1:38] » I. >> I. [1:40] » The eyes are unanimous. Uh Sheriff Malphrus, if you all want to [1:45] start with the workshop topic and y'all can take it from here. [1:49] » Thank you, Chairman. Uh Council, thank you guys so much. I [1:52] realize it's life is busy and sometimes it's hard to get everyone together, and [1:56] I appreciate you taking some time out of your schedule to be here and [1:59] um I'm going to forewarn you you could be fed a bunch of information [2:03] kind of like drinking from a water hose from a fire hose. We all know the the [2:07] same but um you we took the jail over in January and [2:12] we've been here a little more than 8 months now or 8 months or so and we've [2:15] recognized many deficiencies that we need to address. [2:19] And of course uh we're here today with MCA and Motorola [2:23] to kind of break down the ecosystem of what we're going to put [2:27] in place here at the detention center. And that includes um a a new camera [2:31] system with new high-tech cameras of course. [2:34] I'm not a tech guru so these guys can kind of explain [2:38] uh all the details about the cameras, radio [2:41] systems. Of course, you guys know that we have about 42 radio radios or so on [2:46] the streets that are end of life. And we know these radios are very [2:50] expensive so we're trying to move to uh obviously something that is serviceable [2:55] and also uh that will last us many many years to [2:58] come. Uh [3:00] there's a lot of deficiencies here especially when it comes to [3:03] communications inside the jail, entryways, there's a whole bunch of [3:06] stuff so uh with all of that being said, I'm going [3:09] to turn it over to Anthony. He's he works for MCA and he's been very [3:13] intimately involved in this process. Uh he's going to be one of the main guys [3:17] that you may ask questions to. We'll give you his point of contact after this [3:20] meeting. And we want to email you some literature [3:23] and information to break down what we're asking for. We also have several guys [3:27] online that can answer some questions when it comes to payments and and [3:30] longevity and technology and all the things [3:33] that uh I am not qualified to do so. This is Anthony with MCA. [3:39] » Sheriff Newell, Council, thank you for allowing us to be able to come before [3:42] you today and be able to kind of do this presentation and uh [3:46] we uh I'm Anthony with MCA and and we met with uh with the Sheriff and the [3:51] Sheriff's Department uh a while back and um they came to us with some with some [3:56] issues and we wanted to try to come in and see what we could do to be able to [3:59] solve those issues for them and we began to look at some of the deficiencies that [4:05] that they talking about different things from the camera systems inside of the [4:09] detention center here to the outside of the building also with the radios [4:14] ability to be able to communicate once they get inside of the building as well. [4:19] And with Motorola Motorola Solutions and in the all of the the technology that [4:26] they have today we were able to put together [4:30] kind of a ecosystem if you will of technology to be able to solve the [4:36] the needs that's currently that's happening today here and and then we're [4:40] going to talk a little bit about the the ecosystem we talk about the different [4:44] technologies that we have built into this this system that that we're [4:49] proposing to the sheriff's department and the detention center here and we [4:53] also have Ray Arnold he's Motorola Solutions direct and he's on the call as [4:59] well and he'll he'll kind of kind of drive [5:02] this in just a few minutes as well to kind of get into some of the [5:07] technology and that kind of thing we'll talk kind of back and forth and [5:10] obviously at any time if anybody has any questions or anything that comes up let [5:16] us know and we'll be glad to stop and and dig deeper if we need to dig deeper [5:19] into something that kind of thing or if you don't understand we'd be glad to you [5:23] know to expand on that as well for you. So just kind of give you a quick [5:27] synopsis of the technology that we have today that we're we're going to be [5:32] presenting is [5:34] Sheriff Malphrus said radios that's end of life will be will [5:39] be addressing that in the technology that we have currently today [5:44] that will move you into into the future with that and then we're going to be [5:48] talking about bi-directional amplifier system for the for the detention center, [5:52] and what that will do for the communication [5:57] areas in the detention center and also the sheriff's department where there's [6:01] dead spots and that kind of thing for his communication. [6:05] Then we're going to talk about the camera system that we have for the [6:09] detention center. The current camera system that's here today and then what [6:13] we're going to be proposing to replace that with, as well as access control, [6:19] being able to gain access into the building into different parts in the [6:22] interior of the building, and how that works together in tandem with the camera [6:26] systems that we're going to be presenting. And [6:29] then we also going to talk a little bit about body worn cameras [6:33] inside the detention center and how they're going to benefit the detention [6:37] center workers and also the inmates. Obviously through all the technology [6:41] that we have is going to one of the greatest things about it is [6:45] it's going to help make things a lot smoother, make the job easier and keep [6:49] people safer at the same time. And so that's kind of really one of the the key [6:53] designs behind this system. And then finally we have another piece called [6:57] command central aware, and that's going to be kind of if you will kind of you [7:02] picture a a wheel and you have a hub and then [7:07] there's spokes. All the technology ties back into the [7:12] command central aware. That command central aware is going to be our hub so [7:16] to speak, and that's the technology kind of houses everything along with the [7:20] command central dims. And again we'll be we'll be getting into [7:25] the talk a little bit about that that technology and how it works and what [7:28] it's going to do for its benefit. But that's kind of a high level overview [7:33] of kind of the ecosystem that we're going to be presenting here today. [7:37] And that kind of thing. And so I'm going to I'm going to turn it over to Reed [7:41] Arnold and he's again with Motorola Solutions Direct and I'll let him kind [7:46] of start kind of going into the different technologies that we have [7:51] here. Before before he does that does that anybody have any questions before [7:55] he kind of dives in? >> With everything this is counseling Van [8:00] Gieson by the way. With everything you spoke did you say [8:03] body cams? Did you mention body cams? [8:06] » Yes a body worn camera for detention center. That's correct. Yes. [8:09] » Okay, all right. Yeah, good. I thought I caught that. That I think [8:13] that'd be fantastic actually. Okay, I just want to make sure I caught that. [8:17] » Yes, sir. Any other questions? [8:21] » Oh, for sure my office. Uh Joseph Argelo. [8:25] Chris I know we did a contract recently on body cameras [8:29] and so on and so forth with the tasers and all two separate beasts. [8:34] I'm saying. >> Yes, sir. This will be tied in with with [8:37] the FC Motorola system what we're currently using on the streets is [8:40] something different and because the [8:44] the system's going to be in the jail the ecosystem's going to be in the jail. We [8:49] want the camera that can stay in proximity of that and work in house [8:52] versus where we need them on the streets to to link with our with our body [8:55] cameras, our tasers and our in car cameras. [8:57] » All right and in that in our current contract I think it was 1.7 million for [9:02] 5 years I believe. For those how many cameras do we have [9:06] for that? >> 80 is what Chief Abbott would say. [9:11] » You said 80? >> Yes, sir. 80. [9:17] » Okay, I'll save I'll save the rest for later. Thank you. [9:23] » Anyone else? >> Yeah, I have one question. MCA right? Is [9:27] that what it was? >> Mobile communication radio. Yes, sir. [9:31] » Okay, that's what I want to know. Thank you. [9:33] » Yes, sir. [9:37] Anyone else? [9:40] Okay, Reed. If you would, you can you can go ahead. [9:43] » Absolutely. Uh good afternoon everyone. My name is Reed [9:46] Arnold. I'm the local Motorola rep um based out of Charleston, South Carolina. [9:51] Uh Johns Island specifically. Uh cover kind of what's traditionally the the low [9:55] country of uh South Carolina. Um so, thank you all again for having us [9:59] and and hosting this event. And so, [10:03] uh with that, I'm going to share my screen so that everyone can kind of see. [10:07] Maybe. Nope. Share my screen. [10:18] And I just want to make sure that everyone can see [10:20] uh this right here. [10:24] » I got it. >> Perfect. Okay. So, today I'm just going [10:28] to go over kind of a high-level overview of the different technologies. I don't [10:32] want to go too into the weeds. I'd be happy to kind of double down on any of [10:36] the technologies that you guys are going to ask a question. Um [10:41] but just don't I just want to keep it more high-level uh cuz we can really [10:44] kind of get into the weeds uh based on any of these different technologies. [10:47] But, I think the important thing that we're talking about today is trying to [10:52] enhance safety for both those working in the jail and those that are detained in [10:57] the jail. Uh safety is the highest priority for everyone there. So, let's [11:01] let's try to maximize that by utilizing newer technologies [11:05] uh by having more eyes and on the situation should anything happen. [11:09] So, what we're looking at today are kind of a five different pieces [11:14] of technology that's going to be kind of in [11:18] a unified operation. So, the first one I'll start with is the the V700 [11:22] body-worn cameras. And so, that's going to be the body-worn camera that's going [11:25] to be located in the in the uh detention center itself. [11:30] Uh with it being on that campus, we're [11:33] going to be able to live stream into uh Command Central aware, which I'll go [11:38] into more. But, the reason why this uh the sheriff was looking at these V700 [11:42] body worn cameras is is for that uh Wi-Fi based uh live streaming. [11:48] We're also going to be bringing new radios to the line uh to the officers, [11:53] which is going to be the N70 portable. Uh it's a very ruggedized device that [11:58] brings both LTE and LMR. And what that means is you're bringing [12:03] data to the officer at their hip. Um so, we're able to get faster location [12:08] information. They're able to see other officers' location directly there on the [12:12] device, as well as it's extending the coverage. So, uh should the LMR or the [12:18] land mobile radio system, if you have kind of degraded coverage, whether it's [12:21] an in-building or kind of on the periphery of where coverage is, LTE will [12:26] take over so that they're going to be able to maintain uh all of their [12:30] communications throughout. Um [12:34] uh throughout the the county or wherever [12:37] they're they're going to be. Um [12:40] speaking to communications, one of the the issues that [12:44] uh the sheriff's department is having at the detention center is the fact that [12:47] they do not have uh great coverage in-building. Uh jails are [12:52] specifically difficult sometimes to get radio coverage in. That could be uh a [12:56] traditional LMR radio or even your cell phone. [12:59] And the reason why is, you know, they're heavy concrete, lots of steel. That's [13:04] that's not good for getting uh [13:07] signal into a building. So, what we're proposing here is by putting a [13:11] bi-directional amplifier, which is a a antenna structure that will go [13:15] throughout the building, that will provide coverage interiorly so that uh [13:20] should anything happen, they're going to be able to maintain that mission [13:23] critical uh life-saving, you know, communication uh should something [13:27] happen. And then [13:30] kind of moving again interiorly as well as in [13:33] the exterior, we're going to be adding new cameras and access control into the [13:40] into the jail. So, by adding AI into these uh these [13:45] cameras it's able to learn what is normal [13:48] behavior and what is abnormal behavior. Um so, if an object is sitting too long [13:53] within view of the uh the camera, the camera's actually going to be able to [13:57] detect it and uh notify uh staff that, you know, something is [14:04] sitting out there for too long that shouldn't be. Uh someone's going the [14:07] opposite direction uh of the flow of traffic. These cameras [14:11] learn what is normal um to their environment and then [14:15] are proactively monitoring uh staff when something abnormal happens. [14:21] Um typically, when we look and think of cameras, we think of it, "Hey, you know, [14:25] an event happened. I now need to look at my cameras after the fact." Well, these [14:29] cameras are going to be able to you're able to act in a proactive manner [14:34] uh and stop something potentially before it happens. [14:38] And then that gets all tied into access control. [14:42] Uh so, we are allowing the people who need to be uh [14:46] into the facility where they're supposed to be [14:48] and keep the people where they're supposed to stay. Um all of it is locked [14:52] together with our system called Command Central Aware. So, [14:56] think of it as a single pane of glass that someone can understand kind of [15:00] what's happening at the detention center. [15:04] So, with Command Central Aware, you're able to live stream the body worn [15:09] cameras as well as bring in up to 16 camera feeds from around the jail. So, [15:15] if an officer who is working there hits their emergency button [15:21] on their LMR system, we're able to pop up their body worn camera as well as the [15:25] other 16 cameras so that we're getting a a great view into what's happening in [15:29] the situation and responding accordingly. [15:32] Um we're trying to save seconds so we can save lives in this uh detention [15:37] center. So, we've mapped out [clears throat] and [15:40] blueprinted the entire uh [15:44] uh detention center uh so that there are [15:47] going to be zero dead zones with that integrated BDA, and we're eliminating [15:51] any legacy blind spots uh [15:54] across cell blocks and common areas. So, we're getting a true view into the [15:58] detention center center [16:00] with modern technology that's going to work for them for a long time. [16:07] So, a big reason why we're talking ecosystem [16:12] is because trying to purchase these things ala carte can be [16:17] cumbersome in terms of budget uh as you keep kind of piecing it along. [16:22] Um if you look at a bundle-ized price, you're actually going to [16:25] kind of optimize it and we're actually going to get heavier level of discounts [16:29] uh based on that. When when just looking at the list price of all of these things [16:34] combined, we're we're upwards of $1.6 million. However, [16:38] um by bundling that um and utilizing state [16:42] contracts and and that procurement, we're we're well below that. Uh we're [16:47] we're at 1.3 and to be honest, uh some of the numbers I'm [16:51] going to show you guys on the next slide, they're not concrete because I'm [16:54] getting approval for a greater level of discount, okay? But what I'm going to [16:58] show you um on this next slide is kind of [17:01] how we can spread out this payment um cuz asking a a county to to procure, you [17:08] know, $1.3 million in a single year is is it is a big up up front cost. [17:13] Um and so [17:15] what we're what proposing is a new [17:20] this police um with the first year is completely [17:25] um in arrears payment. So, we are expecting no money up front [17:30] um for the first year after that contract signature. And then that second [17:33] year is a around $100,000 uh that we'll be looking at. So, you can [17:39] see kind of how it's broken up between lease and subscriptions. [17:42] And then from years 3 through 8, you can see kind of the annual payments that [17:47] will come from there. Uh again, we're trying to [17:51] structure this lease and structure this payment so that we can bring the [17:57] um detention center up to modern uh standards and make sure that the people [18:01] living people who are detained there and working there are as safe as possible. [18:07] Um and so, spreading that capital out over an extended period of time [18:11] um so that we're not going and doing these large lump sums. Um [18:16] and really kind of cost controlling ourselves. Um I know [18:21] everyone on this call has has seen the cost of everything kind of increasing [18:25] um whether that's chips, whether that's oil, whatever it may be. Uh this is a [18:30] great way to kind of lock in your pricing for today [18:34] so that you know, come 3 years down the road um [18:38] the planned purchase isn't higher than expected. [18:43] Um I know I went kind of little quickly through that. Um but would love to kind [18:48] of answer any questions and uh whether [18:52] that's about a lease or any of the technology that, you know, we we quickly [18:57] kind of dove into. >> I do have a question. Uh Reed. Yes. [19:03] When I'm looking at these payments and it's over 8-year period, [19:07] um since we've got AI involved in this and [19:11] that, is [snorts] there a point this becomes [19:13] obsolete in the near future and it has to be [19:16] redone or how do we see this system working? I [19:20] mean um [19:22] I guess that's my question. >> Yeah, absolutely. So, um all of the [19:27] technology we have today is modern and comes with [19:31] a subscription tied to it. So, if there's any enhancements to the [19:34] products, especially on the software side, right? Uh we are you are you you [19:39] are guaranteed that upgrade. So, if we make an advancement [19:42] in our cameras on the back end, you will absolutely get fed into that. Our body [19:47] worn cameras are the same, same with our radios. And so [19:51] um you will be entitled to that. That's that is a a great question though. [19:56] » Now, does will those upgrades come with cost behind them or will [20:01] you know, obviously if you need new cameras, there'll be some cost, but as [20:05] far as the upgrades themselves, do you anticipate you know, a percentage over [20:11] you know, year to year, 1 2 3% a year going up because of upgrades or is it [20:16] just um [20:19] how does that work? >> No, it's a it's a flat structure in [20:22] terms of how that's going to be. There's unless it's [20:24] unless there's any hardware that you're purchasing, that would be the only [20:27] reason why there'd be a cost increase, but um because everything right now is [20:32] is driven in the cloud, um you are uh entitled to that. [20:37] » Okay, thank you. >> Yes, sir. [20:41] » Are maintenance costs included with this? [20:46] » Um I think I'm going to defer to Anthony on that um seeing that the the camera, [20:50] you know, installation was was done by MCA. [20:55] » Yes, sir. So, I can answer that and I got Brian uh Cleary here with him, which [20:59] is service manager, but um in the pricing, everything is built in for us, [21:03] the programming of the radios up front. Um obviously the [21:08] uh from the BDA side, the installation is in there as well, as well as the [21:13] camera system installation. So, we we uh bundled all that uh together from the uh [21:18] maintenance and uh and installation standpoint. [21:22] » And then, in terms of the cameras and body worn cameras, I can [21:26] speak to that. The body worn cameras are on a program um where if they are [21:31] broken, we will proactively send you new ones and replace them as need. There's [21:35] no cap to that. And then, the radios have a 7-year warranty on them. So, if [21:40] anything breaks on it, if it's uh not functioning the right way, uh it is [21:45] covered under warranty uh for the totality of of that. [21:50] » Reed, this is Joey, the chairman. Do is those prices that you have up there, is [21:55] that inclusive of the BDA, the body worn cameras, the radios, all everything all [22:01] in? >> That That is entirely everything. Yes, [22:04] sir. >> Okay. [22:08] » Mr. Chairman, there might be a question. >> The Yes, I'm [22:11] I was just going to say on the camera maintenance, like if one of them gets [22:15] torn up or, you know, somebody knocks one, you know, inherently in a jail, a [22:18] lot of times sometimes a vandalism occurs, [22:21] it wouldn't cover that or acts of God. We had We had a similar situation with [22:26] another jail and you know, they knocked it off or broke [22:29] it. Uh it wasn't covered. So, so basically, if anything of that nature [22:34] would not but uh the the [22:37] what to Reed's point, any updates or or uh [22:42] software updates or firmware updates and all that, you know, that would be pushed [22:45] down to the cameras, but uh physical [22:49] damage to uh radio or a [22:52] lost radio or you know, somebody takes a broomstick and knocks a camera out, you [22:57] know, it'd be the county's responsibility for that part of it. But [23:00] other than that, it should be covered. >> Absolutely. And then and I probably [23:04] understand this technology with all of this more than most, but uh definitely [23:10] the BDA um inside the jail is needed as well as some of the other components [23:15] uh with that um and the ability for um officer safety [23:23] um not only just for them, but responding other units to the area to [23:27] where um [23:29] it captures their frequencies, you're able to there's a lot more than just the [23:34] the detention center. [23:39] » I do have a question for Sheriff Malphrus. [23:42] » Yes, sir. >> On the um [23:45] lease that we just entered into, I guess, within a [23:48] year, um is it with the same folks here? Um what are our obligations? And I'm I'm [23:54] guessing that this would be this whole system is just for the people in the [23:57] jail? Or would this cover >> Yes, we'll keep the current contract we [24:02] have with Axon this year is a separate system that'll be [24:05] » Speak up a little bit, Sheriff. >> I'm sorry. Yes, sir, it it's it's a a [24:09] separate system from what we currently use on the [24:13] streets. We'll continue to have that that particular contract. This is just [24:17] for the jail house and detention center. >> Yeah, I remember in the discussion on [24:21] that, we talked about how many employees you have. So, as if you had [24:26] this system, how many people outside of this system would you have um [24:32] those 80 units to cover? >> Well, the 80 units are for the the [24:36] deputies on the streets and these particular units here will be just for [24:39] the detention deputies inside the jail. >> Right. And how many [24:45] deputies that would need them outside the jail do you have? [24:49] » Uh we have 80 cameras outside and we were asking for 40 uh [24:54] to go with the BDA system. >> Yeah, but I mean how many [24:59] Do we have too many of those cameras on the original contract now? And if so, is [25:04] there any buyout for those or anything that [25:08] » No, sir. We're using all that we have. Yeah, that's we plan to keep it the way [25:11] it is. So, that system's up and running and very useful and and very [25:15] » Yeah, but how how many how many how many officers do you have outside the jail [25:21] that need cameras? >> Uh no, this this is this system we're [25:25] asking for now is just for the the detention deputies. [25:28] » I understand, but how many deputies do you have outside the jail that need [25:31] cameras? >> All of them. [25:35] » Yes, the total number of road deputies. >> Uh yeah, well well, they all need it, [25:39] but they all have it. >> I know, but how many do you have? Cuz [25:43] you have 80 cameras, how many deputies do you have? [25:46] » 72 deputies. Yes, sir. So, we have we have a couple extras in [25:51] case one breaks or we need to send it off or something like that. So, we have [25:54] a a small handful of of spares, if you will. [25:58] » Right. So, how many employees do you have total? [26:01] » We have 80 with the detention center and 46 with the jail. [26:09] » Thank you. [26:12] » I may be one or two off, but I know we have 80 with with the the sheriff's [26:15] office, I'm sorry. And then we have between 45 and 47. [26:20] » So, roughly 120 plus employees? >> Yes, sir. That's correct. [26:24] » Okay. That that's all I need to know. Thank you. [26:32] » I got a I have a question about uh this being a single source. Is this the [26:38] only Are you the only group that provides this service or these type of [26:42] products? [26:46] » Um with how the ecosystem works together, especially with the body [26:50] worn, uh yes, sir, it does. Yes, we are. >> Also, you have like a patent on this or [26:55] this type of these this type of product or [26:58] » Um I mean, we have a a numerous patents for our different [27:02] technologies. Yes, sir. >> Okay, so that you have a lock on this [27:06] here. The only like a sole source on this uh on this type of uh [27:11] » Yeah, and this is all state contract as well. [27:13] Um negotiate on that as well. >> Okay, and then do you [27:18] um is there any grant opportunities with this type of [27:22] uh system? >> Yes, sir. There are grants that come up [27:26] every single year. Uh whether that's body worn cameras, there are plenty [27:29] federal grants that come in especially for detention centers to modernize [27:32] those. Um there's cops grants that come out [27:35] every year, and then there's a lot of uh opioid and drug money that's currently [27:40] out there today um that was [27:43] started with the Biden administration that's being carried through [27:46] um with the Trump uh presidency that's in today. So, there are lots of uh [27:51] opportunities to get grants, and you can prepay this lease off with no penalty [27:56] whatsoever. Uh and a lot of um grants will uh allow [28:00] you to do to utilize that for a uh [28:04] lease payment as well. >> Okay, thanks. [28:08] » Also, just to share some information about the detention center, [28:12] uh we have a fund called inmate wellness fund, [28:15] and it's it's proceeds that we get from [28:19] certain things in the jail that I can explain to you in detail. [28:22] Uh there's some money's there that we can use toward this. [28:25] Um it may not be available in every single year, but there is some upfront [28:28] that we can help offset the cost. [28:33] » Would Motorola be able to at the end of the contract with you said Axio? I can't [28:38] remember the name of the company. Um when that term ends, would Motorola be [28:43] able to roll something in and kind of keep it all in house in one [28:48] » Yes, sir, we can. [28:52] » Yes, sir. And and we can one thing we can speak on too is is Sheriff Malphurs [28:56] kind of alluded a little bit with the body worn cameras inside the detention [29:01] center. Motorola is proprietary in a technology [29:05] that they have built in with their body worn to where [29:09] far as the recording and and different things of that nature that the body worn [29:12] can do is that it it's always always gets the video. So that's one of the one [29:17] of the nice things behind what we provide there is that gives that added [29:21] security and and safety from from the officer standpoint as well, [29:26] whether be in the detention center or if later on, you know, once the contract's [29:30] up with Axon, they choose to go roll into our body worn and in-car camera [29:36] systems. Everything links together and that's one of the good things about the [29:40] Command Central Aware and in the Command Central Deans that we have is that the [29:45] the video resides there and houses there and and it gives the ability to be able [29:50] to to have everything at your fingertips [29:53] pretty much. Allow you to be able to share the video as you need it, put [29:57] restrictions in as you need it, and those type of things. But then also [30:02] from that side of things, being able to have the the ability to search very [30:07] easily. So one of the things with our with the in-building video on AI camera [30:13] system, the search engine is a a phenomenal [30:17] being able to search out, you know, hours of video and you can find [30:23] something other that you're looking for within a minute or so. So that's one of [30:26] the great things behind this technology as well from the AI side is that the the [30:31] search engine really gives the ability to provide [30:36] the folks with the video very quickly and and it can go across all the cameras [30:41] that's in the building as well. So, one of the things that we're looking at [30:44] doing is the amount of cameras you have today currently in your facility. Uh [30:49] we're going to be able to reduce that some, but also give you better coverage [30:53] uh inside and outside. So, that's a that's one of the pluses behind um this [30:58] particular technology as well is uh is giving you better coverage um with less [31:03] uh amount of cameras to maintain. [31:19] Any other Anybody have any other questions we need to dive deep with any [31:23] other technologies? [31:27] » Just a real quick question is how much electricity do we have enough electric [31:32] electrical output and at the jail? We're they're always understaffed over there. [31:36] I mean under utilized. Do you have enough electricity for all [31:41] the charging here? [31:45] » I will see that. >> So, I mean all of the cameras are [31:47] running over PoE. Uh so, power over Ethernet. Uh which in and of itself is [31:52] very low voltage. Um so, I have not seen uh detention center that did not have [31:58] enough power power to to to do this for cameras uh [32:03] over, you know, the however many times we've done this before. [32:08] » Now, one of the changes that we want to make [32:11] in this process, and I've talked to him about this, is obviously when we're [32:14] making make an update with our generator, [32:18] all this will be on the generator, which currently not. So, when our power goes [32:21] out, we lose communication, we lose video, we lose the ability to open up [32:26] cell doors, etc. So, it becomes a very dangerous situation when we lose power. [32:30] So, this is also something that we want to [32:32] make sure that when we make that transition to a new [32:35] generator, that this system will be up and running full time, all the time, [32:39] with no lack of power, with with no inability to lose or trap officer or [32:44] inmate or dangerous situation that we will be able to to get to. [32:50] » And that um is going to be part of the capital uh [32:55] uh requests that we're going to discuss with council, hopefully, [32:59] uh late in September or early October. [33:06] » Is this something you said is good for August, though, or what were you looking [33:09] at in terms of a timeline on on a on this kind of contract? [33:15] » Well, if if it's approved, uh [33:18] I think they can pretty much come in and put the system in in about 90 days. [33:22] » So so yes, so obviously, once once the approval being that we've got a number [33:27] of different technologies uh built into this particular ecosystem design, um [33:32] obviously, there's going to be equipment that's going to ship, you know, fairly [33:36] quickly. Um and then there obviously uh there's [33:39] going to be a you know, it's going to take some time [33:41] to uh do removals of existing cameras and access control, and then the [33:47] installation of the new equipment and that kind of thing. So, [33:50] um you know, once we kind of we kind of get an idea um about the uh the time [33:55] frame, we can definitely share that with you to give you a better uh idea on a on [33:59] a time frame we're looking of for the time of start to the time of finish, [34:03] obviously. Um from a standpoint on approval, um you know, from the [34:08] financing side, and Reek can speak on this um too, but I I know that normally [34:13] uh once the Motorola gets the uh the verbiage uh together and gets the the [34:18] paperwork over, uh obviously, the county attorneys will will will then you look [34:23] at that and uh you know, it will be dependent pretty much upon uh the timing [34:28] that it takes for them to uh you know, approve it from their side and that kind [34:32] of stuff and get it back to us. But, uh, once we get it and everything's [34:35] approved, uh, usually Motorola uh, runs pretty quick with it. And and like I [34:39] said, Reed can speak a little further on that if we need to, uh, from a time span [34:43] uh, span. [34:46] » Yeah, timing-wise I think, uh, in terms of just, you know, [34:50] after if if this is something that you guys are looking to do and procure, [34:54] um, getting the body worn cameras like set [34:58] up, that's about 90 days. Um, [35:04] the BDA and the cameras are going to probably take the longest just because [35:08] that is going to be a lot of coordination making sure that, um, MCA [35:12] and our partners can can get to the location safely and install that in a in [35:17] a in a manner that they can. So, there's just going to be a lot of coordination [35:19] that's going to come with that. Um, but in terms of things in the cloud, [35:24] um, that would be Command Central Aware and [35:26] the body worn cameras. We're going to get that spun up within 3 months of, uh, [35:31] that that signature coming in. [35:36] » Okay. So, while we while we figure out the payments, then how long does it take [35:41] I mean, how much time do you need before like the first payment is is due? [35:46] » Sure. So, first payment is not due for an entire for 365 days after the the [35:51] signature. >> Okay. Yeah, you did say it was in [35:53] arrears. So, all you need is is just an approval and then a commitment to pay. [35:59] » Yeah, more Yeah, in terms of the municipal leases and how they work for [36:02] us is, uh, we'll we'll send you over a contract [36:07] and a draft of kind of the language that's that's tied to it. Uh, but really [36:11] it's, you know, making sure that this is presented to the the citizens of Jasper [36:15] County and then your county attorney making sure that, uh, you guys have gone [36:18] through the necessary steps, uh, legally to to procure this off of a lease. [36:22] That's that's more or less kind of what it is. [36:27] » Just a general question, Don Kemp. Who owns the You have I may have missed [36:33] this, but you have storage A lot of this stuff is storage, right? Who owns the [36:37] storage? >> We guys don't own it. [36:40] No, we store it, uh but it is all your data and and metadata. So, all the [36:44] videos and information that's tied to it is all of your own uh to do with what [36:51] you will. We are just storing it for you guys as a service. [36:54] » Do you know if like for example, if they don't they can go through you to get the [36:58] store get the information, or do they have [37:00] » No, they cannot. That is They would have to go through you. It is your [37:03] information and yours. Uh we And then you guys have access to the system to [37:07] then pull the video uh should a FOIA request come in. [37:11] Uh all of that's going to be dictated through you guys uh since it's all of [37:14] your data. We don't We don't own it. Um we don't do anything with it. We don't [37:18] sell it. It's all yours. >> So, when you have that you have a [37:22] request, do we request you, or do we request [37:26] Do we do it ourselves? >> You do you do it yourself. So, if your [37:28] FOIA request came in for the detention center, uh that would obviously come in [37:32] through the sheriff's office, I would imagine, and then the sheriff's office [37:36] would would query and do what they needed to do to uh facilitate that FOIA [37:41] request. [37:45] » Okay, so there's no no additional charge for research. [37:50] » No. [37:54] » Yeah, I still have a question about commitment time. When do you need a [37:57] commitment by? Do you have a [38:00] before this price changes or whatever? >> Yeah, I mean, it it it comes down to I [38:05] know this takes time um especially with running with the lease. If you guys say [38:08] yes, we want to go this route, uh we will maintain the pricing as well as the [38:13] uh the lease rate um for however long that takes, whether [38:16] that's, you know, three, four readings, whatever it is, we will maintain that. [38:20] Um but the pricing that that have that we'll we'll send over to [38:25] uh the Sheriff's Department will be good for uh 90 days. [38:29] » All right, thanks. >> Another another great thing about this [38:33] is MCA, they will do all the maintenance stuff. So, if we have a problem, the [38:35] camera goes down, we call them, they come in, they fix it, [38:39] they deal with it. We don't have to tie up our county IT, etc. So, that that's [38:43] kind of a one-stop shop when it comes into the maintenance side, also. [38:55] » I don't have any other questions. [39:04] » I'd like to know what Jim thinks about it. [39:10] » Sheriff, do you all have any additional information? [39:14] Or and if not, um, we'll see if there's any additional [39:18] questions. >> Uh, we don't, but I believe in my [39:22] personal opinion, I would I would like us to do a workshop face-to-face. [39:27] So, we kind of can dive deeper into the technologies. And I [39:30] know they did a great overview today, but I [39:34] I think we can share more candidly face-to-face and that kind of thing. So, [39:38] uh, I don't know if that's possible, but I'd like to do a a face-to-face [39:41] workshop, so we kind of can get into nuts and bolts, so we all [39:45] so you guys clearly, but everyone kind of can [39:49] understand really how long this technology is going [39:52] to last and the the cutting edge and what is coming down [39:56] all the above. >> If possible, would MCA be willing to do [40:00] like a demo and kind of show some of this stuff for um, [40:05] council on how it works, some of the deficiencies that you have in there with [40:09] um, and why you're looking at it. [40:15] » Yeah, absolutely. So, so one of the things that we do have from from [40:18] Motorola's standpoint, up in Lexington, we have innovation center up there that [40:24] houses all of the Motorola technologies basically in in one under one roof, if [40:29] you will. And one of the things that they can do is they can also do a [40:35] live demo to you [40:38] online as well. So, that we can do we can do that [40:43] straight from the innovation center in Lexington. I know it's difficult lot of [40:47] times to get everybody up to Lexington to the physical building, but we can [40:50] bring the building to you via, you know, Zoom or whatever. But, we also can be [40:55] there physically with you with equipment as well to show you how it works and [41:00] that kind of thing from the new technology we have. But, one of the good [41:04] things is always being able to see something live is a lot better than, you [41:08] know, going through a PowerPoint and that kind of thing. [41:11] You know, lot of people they don't want to see slides, they want to see [41:13] something that's working live and they and how well it works. And that's one of [41:16] the things that the innovation center gives to us the ability up in Columbia [41:20] or Lexington to do that for you. And so, so we all we always have the ability to [41:25] be able to go there. The chief and the major from the [41:28] sheriff's department was able to go up a couple weeks ago a few weeks ago and [41:33] they were able to kind of see firsthand what we had up there and that kind of [41:36] thing so they could see the technology was there. But, then also again, we got [41:41] the ability to be able to bring that to you live, you know, via Zoom or whatever [41:45] into wherever you want to meet at. And then, you know, being being able to have [41:49] some some live stuff physically in the room with you. We can do that as well. [41:54] » So, Sheriff, I don't need to go to the innovation center. I pretty have a good [42:00] concept of all this just with my knowledge on it. But, would you all be [42:05] willing to take some council members up there and [42:09] and and show them [42:12] that if they would agree to to go. I will tell you the next couple weeks are [42:17] super slammed with workshops and other things that we're having to do with [42:21] other county business, but um I'll get with the [42:25] uh clerk and see some available dates in the near future. And it might be a good [42:31] idea to for folks to actually see something tangible how it works. [42:35] » Absolutely. That's kind of what I want I want you guys to understand fully what [42:39] we're doing what we're doing and the ability of it all. [42:42] The advantages to it for us, you know, how how it's going to create safety and [42:46] how it's going to help even prevent some things when it comes to the AI process [42:50] of the camera system, etc. There's a lot a lot of things that it does that we [42:54] just have not touched and I won't I want you guys as a council to understand [42:58] fully the cutting edge technology that's [43:00] available to us through the system. So, I would love to do that. I'd love you [43:04] guys to be a part of it. When it's women do that, we'd definitely facilitate [43:08] the logistics of getting you up there and back. [43:11] Absolutely. >> With it being such a big capital [43:14] purchase or and budgeting for multiple years, I think it it would be a good [43:19] idea, but we'll we'll cross that bridge soon and [clears throat] figure it out. [43:23] » Absolutely. >> Yeah, Chairman Row, when I visited with [43:26] uh Sheriff Malphus couple of months ago, um [43:31] he said all this and so I know there's a need there. He also said about the [43:34] generator, so I know there's a need there. One thing I want to make sure of, [43:38] I just want to know the difference in cost, you know, long-term over the lease [43:42] versus paying up front. I know there's some pros and cons either way, uh [43:47] whether it be um you know, the updates or or some of the [43:51] things that uh Councilman Ciccarelli brought up. Um [43:55] but if I if I could see that, what it's actually going to cost us, what's the [43:58] cons and pros both ways. And I already know the need is there. Um [44:04] and as long as Jim says we can figure out how to get the money. I mean, that's [44:08] really all I'm I'm needing if we could get that. [44:12] Then I'm that's the only thing I could think of that I would want to know. [44:16] » So, Reed, I don't know if that is more in your wheelhouse to to look at the [44:21] finance and packages or lease versus own versus [44:28] the different options, but if you could provide some details [44:32] to the sheriff that he can get the council that would be greatly [44:35] appreciated. >> Absolutely. And you know, even with this [44:38] lease, you guys are going to own own all the equipment and everything afterwards. [44:41] So, this is a lease-to-own, not a lease-to-rent [44:44] solution. So, but I can absolutely kind of go through [44:48] the the pros and cons of what would be a large capital purchase versus kind of [44:52] like an operation operational expenditure [44:55] and what that would look like. [44:59] » Any other questions by council? >> No, it sounds like a great product. [45:08] » Any other questions from sheriff's office or MCA for council? [45:14] » I just wanted to throw it out there that as MCA, we're already your Motorola [45:17] contractors at your dispatch center. We maintain all the equipment in there as [45:21] well as the tower sites and wild house as well. So, we have people that are [45:27] local and by local I mean during the daytime a 10-to-15-minutes response to a [45:31] to an incident. At nighttime, it's actually less because two of the [45:35] technicians actually live in Richmond. So, [45:38] you know, that's that's one of the pluses of this service is going to [45:42] always be there and be there quickly. [45:46] » Thank you. Uh Jim, you have anything for council or [45:50] MCA? >> Uh no, just to make sure that we're [45:54] coordinating with Kim to make sure that we get [45:58] uh the state procurement stuff squared away before we come to the council uh [46:03] with this and uh make sure that uh we have uh that all squared away so there's [46:09] no questions when we're ready to uh make this thing happen, uh we don't have to [46:14] backpedal. >> Right. If you'd like, I can [46:17] I can send over the state contract numbers uh after we're done here so that [46:20] you guys can take a look at that uh and what is already on there. [46:23] » And y'all are Sourcewell as well, correct? [46:26] » We are Sourcewell as well, yes, sir. So we can whichever procurement method you [46:29] would like, we can we can kind of craft it to [46:33] uh your procurement director's kind of [46:34] discretion. >> I think that's very positive and and [46:38] again, that's just want to make sure that that is covered uh so that uh we [46:43] don't run into a problem a couple months from now. [46:45] » Understood. [46:48] » Again, thank you everyone for being a being a part of this. I realize it's a [46:51] it's a big undertaking for this to happen, but like I said, we [46:55] just want to make sure everyone is up to par on all the information to make a [46:59] proper decision. [47:02] » Well, thank you, Sheriff, and thank you, MCA, for the presentation. [47:06] Um I'm sure we'll be back in touch in the near future with some pricing and [47:11] some other things to discuss. Um with that being said, all we need is [47:16] one more motion and that is a motion to adjourn. [47:20] » I'll make a motion to adjourn. >> We have a motion. Do we have a second? [47:25] » I'll second. >> We have a motion and a second. All in [47:27] favor, raise your right hand and say aye. [47:30] » Aye. [47:32] » Thank you, Sheriff. Thank you, MCA. >> Thank y'all so much. [47:35] » Thank you, guys. >> Thank you, Sheriff. Thank you for your [47:36] time. >> Good job.