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Good evening everybody. It is 7:00. I'm
going to call this organizational

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meeting of 2026 to order. We
[clears throat] can all rise to the

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flag.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands. One nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all.

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[clears throat]

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» Thank you.

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» All right. Our first order of business
is going to be to approve the audited

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bills. Um this abstract is 01-26A.
It includes vouchers 2025-1259

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to 2026-090.

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Out of the general fund, $87,128.79.

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Out of the highway fund, $112,6467.

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Out of water one, $17,57910.

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Out of water 2, $5,56051.

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Out of water 3, $4,19212.

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out of the sewer fund, uh, $14,127.

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Out of the wastewater treatment project,
$39,18

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out of the Grove project count,
$252,540.95.

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Out of the energy um grant fund, it is
$7,476.95.

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Out of the highway solar account,
$14,92120.

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Out of the CDBG housing grant, $4,460.
Out of the uh community assistment fund

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for uh Christmas gifts was $1,856.58

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for a grand total of $561,351.14.

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Have a motion to pay the audited bills.
>> I move it.

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» Mr. McDonald, a second by Mr. Forbes.
Any discussion?

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Be none. All those in favor signify by
saying I.

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» Anybody opposed? Motion carries.
Next thing on the agenda, we have um the

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minutes from the December 11th, 2025
regular board meeting, which are in

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front of you.
A motion by Mr. sour to accept the

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minutes as presented.
>> Second.

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» A second by Mr. McDonald. Any
discussion?

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Be none. All those in favor signify by
saying I.

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» Anybody opposed? Motion carries.
All right, we are at our first audience

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comment period. If anybody would like to
comment, just stand up, state your name

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for the record. Um, and you may address
board. [clears throat]

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All right.
>> Okay.

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Santo and I live at Ken.
Um,

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» we can't ask questions. Is that what
you're telling me?

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» You may address the board, which yes,
you can. If you got something to tell

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the board, you're more than welcome to.
>> Okay. So, um I was wondering just how

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much of the ticket sales from the recent
show went into the art.

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That's where they were supposed to go.
Is that right?

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» We charge 15% for the event
>> of the ticket sales

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» of the ticket sales.
>> And you don't have the number for that?

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$852

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or something was the amount.
>> And that does go into the art fund.

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» There is no art fund that it goes into.
It goes into the building use fund.

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Okay. Um, my other question is what is
being done as far as revitalizing Main

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Street? I've heard that or I've seen on
the J community news that they want to

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try and get Main Street to be an
historic

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place because of the buildings, but most
of those buildings are empty.

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They're not bringing anything into the
community. How can how can making them a

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[sighs]

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Yeah.

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historic. After making them historic,
do anything to preserve those buildings

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when they're all empty and they look
terrible?

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you can't answer because I can't
question because it's a comment.

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So, I would still like to um find out
what is being done for the

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revitalization on Main Street and um if
those B buildings are

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owned by the private sector, which I
understand they are,

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then how does that person go around go
about

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getting the building
to be

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be eligible

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for this.
So if you can't get

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if you can't get businesses in there
because of the rent or the cost of

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utilities.
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I don't understand how it can be
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an historic building.
It just sits there on rocks because

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nothing's being done to build.
So, um,

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and this question or this comment goes
to Mr. Sour. Are you involved? No, I

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can't see.

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I'm assuming. Hale wants to die. Matt is
a relative of yours

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and he does the
the installment of the splits

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from what I understand and you being the
energy officer.

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Do you have any involvement in that
business?

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Say that again. So,
I'm going to try to point you in the

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right direction for a lot of your
questions because all that information

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is out there. So, the historic district,
we had a public meeting for the historic

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district. The district is the district.
The buildings are historic from the year

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that they were built. The money that
people can get from those grants are

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from ex tax incentives, exemptions that
they get off their income tax for New

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York State. If it goes into if it gets
approved as a national uh historic

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district, then there are other grants
that open up for commercial businesses,

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for um private homeowners.
The point of making it a historic

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district is to encourage people to
invest in the district to revitalize

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those historic structures to keep them
as they were. Um, a lot of that

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information can be discussed or is
discussed and was discussed at that that

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public information meeting which was
held by Shipo in October. And I believe

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that that video is up on our website
that you can watch to see that meeting.

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um the revitalization stuff. If you
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doing about our revitalization of Main
Street, I would encourage you to watch

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any and all of our economic development
meetings which are videotaped and are on

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our website as well. All of that stuff
is on our website under our meeting

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minutes tab and you can watch and um get
answers to just about every one of your

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questions there. Um your comment that
you're making about Mr. Sour and the

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heat pumps. I think you I'm going to
assume you are talking about the person

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that Mark sour who is um actually
posting stuff on the J community news.

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Um I don't believe there's any relation
between Mr.

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» Sour the name Mark Sour Sle.

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[clears throat]
>> Are there any other things you would

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like to present to the board?
>> No. Would you tell me where that is?

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» Uh, if you give me your email, I will
drop you the exact link to it. It's

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right from our website, town ofjny.gov.

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And across the top there is um an info
um tab.

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I'll actually show you right here and
you can look up at the screen.

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» [clears throat]

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» You go across to about it is the me uh
meeting minutes tab. You click that that

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will show you and you can watch all of
our board meetings, all of our planning

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board meetings. There's an archive um
back um the last three years, four years

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for some of those committees. Um the
other committees, the parks and open

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spaces, economic development, climate
smart task force, human services

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committee, comprehensive plan, special
board, all that stuff is on on that site

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if you'd like to review it.
>> Okay. Thank you.

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» You're welcome. Have a great day.

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If I can figure out how to get back to
[laughter]

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there we go.
All right. Any other um audience

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comments?
All right. We will move on to

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organizational resolutions.
[clears throat]

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The first resolution is going to be for
the 2026 Town of J appointments. Um, and

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I will read through all of these just
for the record and then we can have a

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motion in a second.

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» There are catchup.

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I can probably catch you as you go
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» Yeah.
>> Um, [clears throat]

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dog control officer, um, Dan McDonald,
deputy control, uh, the deputy dog

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control officer, Trevor Carl, code
enforcement officer, Roger Tomkins,

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deputy highway superintendent Cody
Garren, deputy town clerk, Tamber

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McCabe. Our disaster committee will be
made up of myself as the chair, Tom

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McDonald as the deputy chair, um Chris
Surell, Cody Garren, and then of course

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as part of that committee, we will be
including all of the um emergency squads

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in the town of Jay. I'm the registister
of vital statistics. Um, Carol Greenley

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Hackle, deputy registister of vital
statistics, Tamber McCabe. Uh, sewer

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rent biller, Michelle Axtel. Uh, sewer
rent collector, Carol Greenley Hackle.

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The attorney for the town of Jay, uh,
Dan Manning. The town bank will be

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community bank NA. The town newspaper
will be the Press Republican. Uh, water

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rent biller, Michelle Axto. Water rent
collector Carol Greenley Hack Hackle. Uh

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ambulance board liaison will be myself
and Tom McDonald. Uh climate smart task

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force chairman Mr. Canute Sauer. Budget
officer will be uh myself and Carol

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Greenley Hackle. Building committee uh
will be me as the chair, Paul Benway,

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Brooke uh Paris. Highway committee, Tom
McDonald will be the chair. Steve

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Forbes, Jesse McDonald, uh Chris Serell,
Cody Garren will be on that committee.

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The sewer and water committee, Steve
Forbes will be the chair. Tom McDonald,

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Jesse McDonald, Paul Mintz will be on
that committee. Water uh we already

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that's where we already did the water
and sewer water sewer. Essex County

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Youth Bureau, I will be um the chair uh
being assisted by Carol Greenley Hackle.

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Historian will be Sharon Houston.
Insurance committee will be myself,

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Carol Greenley Hackle, Michelle Axtel.
The Jay Blackbrook Youth Commission

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liaison will be myself and Michelle
Axtel. Clerk to the supervisor will be

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Michelle Axtel. Clerk two will be Tamber
McCabe. Clerk three Carol Greenley

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Hackle. The parks and open open space
committee chair will be Olivia Dwire.

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Personnel committee chair Tom McDonald.
Human Services Committee will be chaired

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by Robin McCari and I will uh sit on and
be the board representative on that

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committee. Economic development chair is
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Um
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we had already done those two.

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So if I could have a motion to approve
the 2026 Town of J appointments

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» by Mr. Sour,
>> second by Mr. McDonald. Discussion

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» be none. All those in favor signify
second

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» discussion.
I thought Steve was going to be with you

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on the

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» or just put just put both of us.
>> Um it can be the two of you and then

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like I can be your alternate. Do you
want me to say the alternate?

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» You can be the alternate. That would be
fine with me.

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» Yeah.
>> So, the ambulance liaison.

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» Ambulance leazison. Alternate Steve
Forbes.

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Any other discussion?
Being none. Are Mr. S, you okay with the

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amendment? And Mr. McDonald, are you
okay with the amendment?

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» Yes.
>> Um, any further discussion?

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None. All those in favor signify by
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» Anybody opposed?
>> Motion carries.

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» Uh the next resolution will be uh the
2026 authorization for payment. Um now

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therefore the salary set forth below are
hereby established for the year 2026 and

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be further resolved that the supervisor
be hereby authorized to pay said

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salaries from the appropriate town
funds. Animal control officer, $3,90.

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Deputy dog control officer, $1,545.
Board of assessment review will be $100

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per um B member, and there will be three
of those. Budget officer,

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um it'll be $2,000 and that will be
split between myself and Carol. building

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inspector, which is our code officer,
$26,525.

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Uh, building maintenance park laborer
have one of those at $2426

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an hour. The other building maintenance
park labor is $228

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per hour. Councilman, we have four at
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Historian, um, one at $2,000. Justice
one at $13,265.

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Court clerk one at $5,300.
For youth commission, um we have four

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recreation specialists. Um one for
baseball, one for basketball, one for

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soccer, one for skiing. Each one of
those are $1,000. The town of Jay is

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responsible for one half of that at $500
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Um the registar of vital statistics, one
of those at $275.

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Deputy registar of vital statistics,
$275.

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The sewer red biller, one of those at
$600. Sewer red collector, one of those

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at 600, I'm sorry, $660.
And the collector is $666

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or $660.
sewer treatment plant operator. Uh, one

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of those at $36, uh,7 per hour. An
assistant plant operator at $27.40

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per hour. We have an another assistant
sewer plant operator at 27.86 per hour.

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And the third assistant sewer plant
operator 2228 per hour.

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The superintendent of um highways
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is at a salary of $74,265.
The deputy superintendent has a

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statement of $2,500.
Clerk to the superintendent is $26.75

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per hour. Um the highway department will
have one labor at $20.76 hours an hour.

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[clears throat]
an MEO at um this is the PDM position at

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$25 per hour. An MEO one at 2475 per
hour. Another MEO at 2705 per hour.

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Another MEO at 2586 per hour. Another
MEO, this is an MEO 2. Those were MEO1s

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at 2624.
We have an HO, which is a heavy

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equipment operator at 2562
per hour. another uh HO

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um one at 2386 per hour. Another HO1 at
2732 per hour. We have an HO2

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um at 2925 per hour. Um the supervisor
um one of those at $55,160.

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The deputy supervisor gets a stipen of
$1,500. The clerk to the supervisor is

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at $26 an hour. Clerk two is at $24 an
hour. Clerk three is at 2855 per hour.

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The tax collector um is a salary of
$9,000. The town attorney is $100 per

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hour. The town clerk is uh a salary of
$15,500.

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The deputy town clerk gets a stipend of
$2,000. Um water treatment plant

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operator. Um we have one of those at
3607 per hour. an assistant uh water

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treatment plant operator at 2740 per
hour. Another uh assistant water

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treatment plant operator at 27.86 per
hour. Another water treat plant another

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assistant water treatment plant operator
at 2228 per hour. Water rent biller um

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is a onetime um statement of $710 and
the water rent collector is a onetime

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stipen of $710.
Can I have a motion to accept the salary

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schedule as presented?
>> Move. Second, Mr.

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» O'Donnell, second by Mr. Sour.
Discussion

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[cough] be not. [clears throat] If we
can have a roll call vote, please.

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[snorts]

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» Yes.
>> Yes.

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» Yes. Motion carries.

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The next list of resolutions will be
quick resolutions that I will need a

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motion, a second, and then there'll be
discussion. Um,

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» um, we can do um,

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» I can do that. I can read all of them.
Then we can make motion and if somebody

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has a problem with one, stop. Yeah,
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» please see the attached listing of
regular monthly meetings um of the town

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of J um town board for 2026
um which includes the organizational

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meeting today, January 8th. The February
meeting will be fe all of these are the

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second Thursday of every month. February
12th, March 12th, April 9th, May 14th,

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June 11th, July 9th, August 13th,
September 10th, October 8th, November

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12th, December 10th. All meetings are
held at 7 p.m. here at the Town of Jay

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Community Center unless otherwise noted.
The Pass Republican is designated as the

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official newspaper of the town of Jay
for the calendar calendar year of 2026.

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The community bank is designated as the
official bank of the town of Jay for

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calendar year 2026. The proceedings of
the town of Jay board shall be conducted

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according to Robert Trule's order. The
town of Jay board shall adopt the town's

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procurement policy.
All fees collected for birth and death

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certificates by the local registar shall
be turned over to the town on a monthly

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basis. All town officials shall be
reimbured for mileage at the rate of

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72.5 cents per mile in necessary
expenses incurred in performing their

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duties of office according to the 2026
IRS rates. I think we got to change

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that.
We're only just Should we even do 72 and

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half cents and just put per IRS?
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cents is the new IRS rate,
>> right? But wouldn't it make more sense

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just to put the IRS the IRS rate? It can
change at any given time.

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» No, it's an annual
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» Yeah.
And if it does change, if it does

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change, we should know that exact rate
so that it actually is

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is changed by the board.
>> I mean, I I just other towns are putting

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per IRS rate.
>> The rate does change.

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» It can change at any time. [snorts] It
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» No, it's an annual.
>> It can change in a year, but I'm not

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going to read about it. Whatever. There
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The supervisor shall submit to the town
clerk within 60 days after the close of

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the fiscal year a copy of the AFR to the
state controller required by section 10

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of the general municipal law. Upon
receipt, the town clerk shall publish in

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the official town newspaper. A notice of
copy of such report is on file in the

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town clerk's office and available for
public inspection and copying.

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The deputy supervisor is authorized to
sign all checks for the town of Jay

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during the absence or inability of the
supervisor. The deputy town clerk is

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authorized to sign checks on behalf of
the town clerk. There shall be charges

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of $35 for any return check to the town
or any officer or employee for

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insufficient
funds.

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» [clears throat]
>> The supervisor is authorized to enter

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into contracts on behalf of the town
board for calendar year 2026 as

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presented in the 2026 budget adoption.
North Country Rural Development $4,000

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APA Review Board $300. Oable Forks
Ambulance Service $452,855.

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Oable Forks Fire Department 300,735.17

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Oel Forks Library $10,000 BTI treatment
$19,900

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Dave Bushy for rental of his space where
the J meter pit is $300. The Jefferson

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Lewis Bo Bosey's drug and alcohol
program, $600. The J community news,

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$1,000.
Um Jay Entertain Entertainment and Music

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Society, $7,500.
The [clears throat] J Fire Department,

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$246,400.
North Country SPCA not to exceed $3,500.

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The Red Cross $500. Senior Citizen
Organization, $1,550.

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United Way, $500. The Upper Jay Fire
Department, $117,381.

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Wells Memorial Library, $10,000.
The supervisor is uh authorized to

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accept payment for the following
community center rental agreements.

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Um rooms 2011, 202, 2077. They are the
second floor upstairs carpeted room. It

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includes heat and electricity, $500 a
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[cough and clears throat]
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Heat and electric, $750 a month. The
senior AAP room, which is this room on

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the first floor with heat and electric,
$300 a month.

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The supervisor is authorized to enter
into a contract with the Essex County

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Department of Public Works for calendar
year 2026 on behalf of the town highway

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subject to the approval of the Essex
County Superintendent of Highways.

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The annual membership dues for the
association of the towns for calendar

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year 2026 is in the amount of $1,100
shall be paid by the supervisor.

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Um, appoint Supervisor Matthew Stanley
as the voting delegate and Councilman

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Steve Forbes as the alternate voting
delegate for the Associations of Towns

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and Villages and the Aderondack
Associations of Towns and Villages for

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2026.
Appoint Roger Tomkins as the town of Jay

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Code officer for 2026.
Penny cash funds for various town

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officials are authorized as follows. The
supervisor $100, justice $100. Tax

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collector $30. Town clerk $100. Code
officer $100.

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[clears throat]
The town clerk or deputy clerk is

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authorized and directed to open all
competitive bids for public works and

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purchase contracts. Record the same and
report them to the town board. For

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purposes of fixed assets, a dollar value
of more than $500 per item requires

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listing in the fixed assets of the town
general ledger accounting system. The

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town board hereby authorizes supervisor
Matt Stanley to enter into a contract

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with unifers for uniform rental for each
highway department employee plus an

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additional $100 per employee or boot
allowance per the town of Jay clothing

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allowance policy. The town will offer
longevity payments to all eligible

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employees in increments based on years
of service at a rate to be stated in the

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town of J employee handbook and will be
made payable annually in December.

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The town will pay 90% of premiums and
100% of the deductibles for individual

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or family medical or dental coverage to
all full-time employees hired prior to

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2014.
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Sorry, I have a little touch of
pneumonia.

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» The town will pay 75% of the premium and
100% of the deductibles for individual

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or family medical and dental coverage to
all full-time employees hired after

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2014.
The town will offer a cash buyout in lie

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of medical benefit for any full-time
employee who is eligible for medical and

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dental coverage who can provide
documentation of current medical

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coverage in the amount of $4,000 in two
payments of $2,000 in June, one in June

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and one in December.
The town will pay 100% of a $25,000 life

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insurance policy for all full-time
employees.

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All utilities, insurance, postal and
freight charges may be paid by the

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supervisor prior to the uh town board
audit and approval.

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That brings me to the end of the
resolutions, the organizational

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resolutions. If I can have a motion um
to accept all of those resolutions as

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read,
>> Mr. McDonald. The second by Miss Dwire.

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Any discussion?
>> Yes. on the um

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uh petty cash for the tax collector. Is
$30 enough if she hasn't more than one

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person come in with big bills?
Should we make that a 100 and make the

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rest of them
or or is she okay then she been okay

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with the $30? I think she has been and I
don't know this for certain but I she

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has not come to me to request more petty
cash. I believe most people either pay

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by check or pay by She now has the
option to pay with credit and debit

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cards.
>> Okay. As long as she's good with that in

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order to have issues.
>> Yeah.

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» Okay.
>> Any other questions?

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» Be none. Um let's just since there's a
bunch of those, let's just do a roll

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call vote on all of those.
>> Yep.

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» Yes.
>> Yes.

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» Yes.
Yes.

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» Motion carries.
[clears throat]

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» That actually went pretty quick, fellas.
[clears throat]

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» All right. So, um we do not have any
guests tonight. Um, so we do have in our

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packet, um, this is the full, uh, this
is from code enforcement. Um, Mr.

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Tommpkins, uh, gave you a print out of
all of the building permits for 2026.

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» I was trying to quickly see what was the
total number of permits, but

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Uh yeah. Um in building permit
>> is there

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» 103.
>> Oh yes, good eyes. 103 building permits

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for 2025.

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Um dog control. Mr. Carl
is not here tonight. Um, Cester Tim Gay

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had no report.
>> Yes, I will.

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» I will. Uh, Mr. Mintz, your turn for
water, wastewater.

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» Evening everybody.
>> Um, I don't come with any requests for

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money this month, so I'll just give you
a brief update.

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» Um, didn't really have a lot going on in
December. It was fairly quiet. Um, we

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had one small water breaking service
line up on Bing Mill Hill um that we had

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to dig because the shut off was
uh broken and it happened to be the

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house that had caught on fire and the
basement was spilling water. Um,

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at the wastewater treatment facility,
all the blowers are in place and

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mechanically ready to go. Uh we are
experiencing some electrical issues with

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number two motor. We've done all the
troubleshooting we can to the extent of

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our ability. So I'll be calling the
electrician to come in and kind of give

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us the final diagnosis to give it give
it a little push and get it in service.

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Uh the other thing I want to bring up
with the wastewater treatment facility

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is in the past we've had two surface
airators that could be used to augment

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the aeration or temporarily replace
entire zones of the aation lines that

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are out of service. Uh they've I think
those units they've been here ever since

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I came on my first core duty. They're
you know probably close to 20 years old

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currently. Both have deficiencies.
we can pretty much take all the working

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parts from the two and make one good
surface airator

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um and keep that as a backup. A
replacement for the second would be

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approximately $5,000.
Um I'm currently not recommending we

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replace it. The air raators were kind of
left over from a period of time in which

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we had multiple deficiencies in the
fixed aation system in the lagoons. So

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you could quickly deploy one if you lost
an entire line. Um, our aerators and on

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the wood are all working. A lot of the
older ones have been replaced in 2013.

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I'm guessing that all of them are going
to be replaced again when we do move on

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to phase two of the wastewater treatment
project in the next two to five years.

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Um,
so again, not asking for any money, just

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explaining why I'm not replacing that
one. We're just going to fix the one

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because again, if we buy it, it's just
going to sit on the shelf and that's not

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good for anything. Anyway,
uh we've had a few hiccups with our

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standby backup power at both the uh Alks
water treatment plant and the waste

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water treatment plant. Um we were able
to troubleshoot those issues in the

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house. I just bring it up to mention
that uh automatic standby power is

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fantastic and I'm glad that we have it
where we do. Uh but each generator is

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just another bucket of moving parts uh
that can and often fails and

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for the uh wastewater treatment uh
facilities upgrade project that's

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currently underway of the three
contracts uh one of which has been

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deemed substantially complete that's for
the uh the HVAC system the really the

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smallest tiniest uh contract where it
was um we are inching towards

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substantial completedness for the other
two contracts but we still have no firm

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completion date uh work will continue on
the ultraviolet system on the 12th and

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just as a reminder needs to be up and
running by May, but I think our funding

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needs it to be substantially complete
way before then.

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Uh so just a brief uh to-do list of
what's coming up this month. Uh we've

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got a lot of annual reports that we're
going to have to compile and submit in

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January and February. We need to make a
strong push on the household

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characteristic study. Um, and again, we
we want to be able to use that data uh

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in the next round of um funding
opportunities. So, we really want to try

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to get that wrapped up by I think March
or the end of March.

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Uh, again, I need to reach out to an
electrician to diagnose and repair uh

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the number two circuit at the blower
panel. Uh, the UV system should be doing

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the startup and training hopefully uh
sometime this month.

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Um, we're going to be resetting a lot of
our maintenance schedule and calendars,

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trying to streamline that a little bit.
Um, so I'm not gatekeeping the process.

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One thing I don't need to do. And then
just as a reminder, uh, while it's slow,

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we'll be starting to formulate the bid
for the septic tank risers. Um, so we

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get that done early and we have those
here for when uh, the ground falls and

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we can begin work.
>> Any questions?

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Last month he mentioned that Mr. Preston
wasn't available to do electrical work.

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Wife told me that he is still working.
>> So I I've seen him out.

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» Yeah. He's back.
>> Yes. Um and and I I I will reach out to

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him. I just know that we we had a couple
of things that were, you know, that kind

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of got pushed a little far.
>> If Jack is able to

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» he's fantastic
>> in case you need it. And and certainly

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for something like this, he's he's
already done some work on our lower

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panel and it's kind of a low impact kind
of it's not like I'm asking him to set a

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pole or something. So that might be a
good test to see if Jack

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» Thank you very much.

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» Mr. Sell.

422
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:03,079
All right.
So I have a uh like Paul I

423
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:17,680
have body on wing edges. Um
the these on J9 is about 10 years old.

424
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:23,661
Uh J1
um is a little bit newer, but I put that

425
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:27,760
on. I started
[clears throat]

426
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:33,400
um and J8.
So, uh yeah, total is $9,744.90.

427
00:38:33,839 --> 00:38:44,160
There'll be one blade for J8. That'll be
9 fter J1 and J9

428
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:50,320
J1 J91. But these are uh winter winter
act blades. They last forever.

429
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:54,400
Um
uh they're the ones on our trucks are

430
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:58,480
just worn out.
>> Are these soul sourced? Because those

431
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:05,880
plows are made by Ko.
>> Yeah, these are uh

432
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,880
this is a different company that

433
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:16,119
we bought. Oh yeah, we bought four.
>> Yes,

434
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:23,000
» they're they're pricey, but uh means you
can't cut them anywhere else.

435
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,000
» Yeah.

436
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,400
» I mean, per perhaps

437
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:33,440
policy any
purchase,

438
00:39:31,839 --> 00:39:38,240
» right? He's getting all three of them
together.

439
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:42,640
» Yeah. Yeah. But uh
>> this ain't a state contract either.

440
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:47,200
» No, they don't have
>> No.

441
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:52,960
» Can I have a motion um to purchase the
blades on the wings? Mr. Forbes. A

442
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:56,920
second.
>> Mer discussion

443
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:03,200
being none. Roll call vote please.
Stber.

444
00:40:01,359 --> 00:40:06,560
» Yes.
>> Yes.

445
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:13,480
Yes.
>> Yes. Yes. Motion carries.

446
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,480
» Thank you.

447
00:40:21,839 --> 00:40:29,720
» Doesn't make much interest on that
9,000.

448
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,720
» Good thing is they last

449
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,480
got 10 years.
>> Yeah.

450
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:37,119
» Yeah.
wind.

451
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:43,040
» Yeah.
>> So, you can also use them for

452
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:46,040
your regular blade, but once you get an
arch,

453
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:51,960
you're better off either go with a new
uh

454
00:40:52,400 --> 00:41:00,560
track blade or the car.
Um

455
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:10,000
I'm requesting a resolution
uh approve the annual uh equipment list

456
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:15,440
for the EDW this list and just uh
do work for county

457
00:41:13,359 --> 00:41:22,560
how they pay for
>> and it looks like that Jesse updated

458
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:27,920
this list on 106. Can
>> I have a motion to approve the town J

459
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:33,599
equipment list for Essex County?
>> Mr. McDonald second.

460
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:35,839
» Miss Dwire. Any discussion? See none.
All those in favor signify by saying I.

461
00:41:35,578 --> 00:41:40,920
[clears throat]
>> I.

462
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,920
» Anybody opposed? Motion carries.

463
00:41:44,079 --> 00:41:52,560
» Equipment. We've had quite a few breaks.
Last year was awesome. this year

464
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:59,440
somewhat big year.
>> That's how we got into the position.

465
00:41:56,319 --> 00:42:05,200
» So many uh many breakdown repairs of
equipment

466
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:09,520
season. Um we're trying to get uh trying
to get them up up and going and just uh

467
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,160
get parts.
Uh [clears throat] both our pipes are

468
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:16,800
down right now.
>> Really?

469
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:22,160
» Yeah. Uh one is a wheel bearing entire
end and the other one is actually a

470
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:25,440
um electric uh PTO clutch that goes on a
hydraulic pump and motor. They don't

471
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:30,319
carry on that.
>> Any warranty on those?

472
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:35,119
» Not the new one.
And then the green one just ran on

473
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:43,359
August.
>> So uh um but the uh they don't carry the

474
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:47,040
gill pump. So I order them online.
>> It's You think

475
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,760
» Well, we know they don't carry airbags
for me.

476
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:52,880
» Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy.
>> Maybe better look at a different brand.

477
00:42:51,359 --> 00:42:58,319
» Exactly. Yeah, we were talking about
that.

478
00:42:54,480 --> 00:43:03,440
And then uh J8, uh we're waiting for a
hydraulic pump for that. So, should be

479
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:08,160
here tomorrow. Um
>> cuz that white one is just over a year.

480
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:12,880
» Yeah,
it's crazy.

481
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:16,000
» I think uh from now on I'm just going to
have Charlie boys work on it. I feel

482
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:20,319
like we've had more problems with the
new equipment we bought [laughter] than

483
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,960
the older equipment.
>> That

484
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:29,160
or case loader.
>> So the case that came over ended up

485
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,160
being a fuse.

486
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:35,440
» They didn't charge you though.
>> Didn't say

487
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:39,375
» couldn't be a charge.
>> Well, he took out you had to take out

488
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:40,880
the whole core and everything.
[clears throat and cough] Couldn't find

489
00:43:40,319 --> 00:43:44,960
any.
>> You know where the fuse is now, right?

490
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:54,560
» Yes. There was actually a fuse that we
we looked at. It just it wasn't

491
00:43:49,599 --> 00:44:00,920
» Yeah, he had his fault finder and stuff.
>> And the cat got repaired, too.

492
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,920
» Cat's all up and running. So,

493
00:44:01,599 --> 00:44:07,520
» I was worried about you guys for that
weekend.

494
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:12,800
» Well, we got a backup. So, uh road
maintenance, we're in winter mode. Uh

495
00:44:09,839 --> 00:44:19,440
we're starting on hours now. I'm alone
now, so keep an eye on that.

496
00:44:16,319 --> 00:44:26,720
Um, everybody's working good together
and uh, you know, we're just trying to

497
00:44:23,839 --> 00:44:32,430
trying to keep the roads passible and
uh,

498
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:36,240
um, everybody else get
[clears throat]

499
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:44,040
um, and then other items um,
are

500
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:44,040
we have a old salter that Jodie plates

501
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:54,079
build himself. I don't know when it's
[clears throat] very old.

502
00:44:52,735 --> 00:44:58,800
[laughter]
>> That's pretty big.

503
00:44:55,599 --> 00:45:04,480
» And uh yeah, they we patched it, patched
it, patched it. I've got a couple salt

504
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:12,640
seminars and stuff and meet with you,
Max, and uh probably next week. And uh

505
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:19,200
uh I'm trying to uh get a lot of uh info
on possibly doing get a brine to jug for

506
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:23,040
the back of it. So before a storm pre
sidewalks

507
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:28,000
so when you put salt down one little
pebble takes forever for it to it seems

508
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:33,280
like we're going through a lot of salt
right now on these sidewalks. So

509
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:38,560
» hopefully now that they up after that
ice stom

510
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:44,240
» Oh my goodness. Yeah. Um, that's all I
have other than uh Do you want to do the

511
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:48,640
uh
time

512
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,720
for uh
>> carryover hours?

513
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,599
» Yeah, carry over hours.
>> Yes.

514
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:58,720
» It's not on your list. So,
>> okay. [laughter]

515
00:45:55,599 --> 00:46:02,560
» I'm going.
>> Yes. because that was actually sent in a

516
00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:06,079
separate email to me
>> and I assumed it would have been in your

517
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:09,720
report and I didn't print it off. So,
>> can I borrow your

518
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:17,160
» Maybe you don't know what kind of switch
went in that

519
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:26,800
» Well, I see it in the invoices.
There was a switch in there.

520
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:30,160
» I'm not sure.
>> I know. I don't think there was any roof

521
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,160
on it, too.
>> Yeah.

522
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:42,560
» So, uh it was I had driven a couple
times. You barely go you can go forward

523
00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:47,280
but reverse barely get over a curve with
it or anything. So, Paul brought up

524
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:51,760
shop.
A couple guys looked at I looked at it

525
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:55,760
and we're just like
bent or something like Chris Boo at it

526
00:46:54,160 --> 00:47:00,400
was underneath there like two seconds.
Yep. Right here. roll pin actually

527
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:06,480
» and [cough]
put that back in and put a new roll pin

528
00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:08,960
works great
one.

529
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:12,640
» Yeah,
I know he's complaining about that

530
00:47:10,319 --> 00:47:15,640
tractor not having
>> power.

531
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:25,119
» So, this is we actually all do have this
in our board packet towards the back. It

532
00:47:20,319 --> 00:47:26,640
was going to be my report. Um,
>> no, no, we'll do it now since you're

533
00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:28,000
here.
>> Okay,

534
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:32,640
» just get it done.
>> Perfect.

535
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:39,280
» Um, you need the board to approve um
personnel time to be moved to sick um

536
00:47:35,359 --> 00:47:46,160
carryover any remaining vacation um to
next year um and pay out any comp time

537
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:51,040
at the end of the year. Um that is on
the sheet that is in your packet. Um, I

538
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:57,040
can read through the hours if you'd like
or we can just make a motion um for the

539
00:47:54,400 --> 00:48:03,280
highway department personnel or personal
time to be moved sick carryover vacation

540
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:08,800
and pay out comp.
>> A motion is made by Mr. Forbes. A second

541
00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:15,200
» second
>> by Miss Dwire. Discussion.

542
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:20,960
» Uh, are we is sick time is all hours and
then vacation and personal are days or

543
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:24,960
are those sick time, everything is ours
>> and they move over sick carries over.

544
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:29,680
Got it.
>> Um it's just vacation. It's either use

545
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,920
it or lose it. Unless we
>> personal go.

546
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,040
» Gotcha.
>> Right.

547
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:41,920
» Vacation time you lose.
>> Vacation time you lose and there's 13 15

548
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:49,680
16 20 hours worth of vacation time.
>> Yeah. They're requesting to move the one

549
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:54,920
year um and paying out the comp which is
37 and 38 and a half hours.

550
00:48:55,599 --> 00:48:59,280
» 40.
Yeah.

551
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:04,640
» 31.
>> Yeah. I can't add

552
00:49:01,359 --> 00:49:06,960
value. Sorry. [laughter]
>> Paid out.

553
00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:14,000
» Yes. The cop is paid out.
>> Um next uh this year coming up. We're

554
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:17,920
having a question for them to use all
irrigation and

555
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:20,720
» burn on their cont.
>> Well, I mean there's really compared to

556
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,200
years past.
>> Yes.

557
00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:30,240
» When you guys couldn't take your time,
>> this is very,

558
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:34,240
» you know, uh uh I'm going to have them
try to use their comp first, then

559
00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:39,119
negation, then personal.
>> Y have them save your personal for last

560
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:41,920
because that can always carry over.
>> Correct.

561
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,599
And then they can also because of the
sick bank policy,

562
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,680
» correct?
>> Donate some of that to the sick bank.

563
00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:48,480
» Yeah. They could also take first like 18
personal.

564
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:53,599
» Yep.
>> They can throw that into

565
00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:56,720
» Absolutely. Any other discussion?
Be none. All those in favor signify by

566
00:49:55,599 --> 00:50:01,440
saying I.
>> Anybody opposed?

567
00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:04,960
» Motion carries.
Anything else?

568
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:08,480
» Mr. S?
>> No, sir. I think that's it.

569
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:13,359
» All right. Anybody got any questions or
concerns for Mr. drug.

570
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:18,160
» All right, I will before you leave let
you know I went over to the health

571
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:21,760
clinic yesterday and you guys got a huge
shout out for how bad it was yesterday

572
00:50:19,839 --> 00:50:26,559
morning. How quickly you got the roads
and the acres like they were singing

573
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:29,440
your praises over there. So,
>> well, I was over there with my pick off.

574
00:50:28,755 --> 00:50:35,839
[laughter]
>> That's probably it.

575
00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:39,880
It's Yeah, thank you. And the ice is
unbelievable. Yeah.

576
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,160
Yep.

577
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:53,599
» All right, moving on um to economic
development. Um we have a meeting next

578
00:50:50,800 --> 00:51:00,000
Wednesday at noon. Um the big news
coming out of economic development this

579
00:50:55,359 --> 00:51:04,720
month um it was we were awarded $315,000
um

580
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:10,800
that $315,000 Main Street grant um which
is being administered by North Country

581
00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:17,119
Rural Development. Um can I have a
motion to accept that grant?

582
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:21,680
» So I'll second motion by Miss Dwire,
second by Mr. McDonald. Discussion

583
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:26,160
being none. All those in favor signify
by saying I. I.

584
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:32,559
» Anybody opposed? Motion carries. Um so
as that paperwork gets uh figured out by

585
00:51:29,359 --> 00:51:37,040
North Country uh Rural Development,
uh there will be some public meetings.

586
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:41,440
Um there is actually an online job form
that people can sort of start filling

587
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:49,119
out now um to talk about their projects.
This does go uh for any of the facade or

588
00:51:45,359 --> 00:51:56,559
building improvements up to $100,000 per
um building or business um for things

589
00:51:52,480 --> 00:52:02,000
like signs um facade improvements um or
code uh improvements, code violation

590
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:05,680
improvements to those buildings. Um and
that will be more information of that

591
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:10,400
will be coming out from North Country
Rural Development.

592
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:14,880
Um, that is all I have for economic
development right now. Um, I will have

593
00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:19,359
more um that will be brought up during
the meeting. Any questions about

594
00:52:16,559 --> 00:52:24,400
economic development?
Uh, youth commission. Um, I don't know

595
00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:30,160
if anybody got here early enough to see
practices, basketball practices started

596
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:34,160
this um this week. Um, so the gym is
being used every night by youth

597
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:39,599
commission. Usually the practices I
think are 5 to 7. Um they will be having

598
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:43,686
basketball games I believe starting in
two weeks which run through March.

599
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,280
» How many kids?
[clears throat]

600
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,720
» I don't know the number of kids but
there are four teams one at each

601
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:53,920
division.
>> Um two of the teams are practicing here.

602
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:58,480
Two are practicing at Bully M.
>> Um and then the ski program is up and

603
00:52:56,319 --> 00:53:02,640
running at Whiteface. Um the last couple
years it's been much easier for the

604
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:09,040
towns because all the tickets and
purchasing um get made directly through

605
00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:14,400
Whiteface. Um and then we have uh
between us and Blackbook, we have a

606
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:19,359
couple of people who um work to sort of
just watch the kids around the mountain

607
00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:26,079
um and help them while they're there. So
that program is really uh become a lot

608
00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:32,480
easier. Um and there is insurance for
that program that uh Blackbrook actually

609
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:36,960
provides for that that program. Um any
questions about you commission?

610
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:40,079
» All right, we will move on to parks.
Miss Dwer,

611
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:45,040
» thank you. Um the parks and open space
committee met on December 18th. Uh great

612
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:49,920
meeting, lots of [clears throat]
um work happening on exploring a dog

613
00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:54,880
park. Uh thank you Mr. Stanley for
figuring out the insurance premium

614
00:53:51,599 --> 00:54:00,400
question. That's super helpful. Um,
planning for our parks and trails

615
00:53:56,559 --> 00:54:06,880
volunteer day, which is April 25th.
Um, and then just a reminder, two weeks

616
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:10,319
from today, January 22nd, we're having
our January parks and open space

617
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:15,520
meeting, but we'll be advertising around
town, uh, inviting the community to

618
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:20,960
attend. Um really emphasizing the
outdoor recreation part of our uh the

619
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:25,280
work that the committee is doing,
especially with the comprehensive plan

620
00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:30,800
going on and the recreation economy for
rural communities uh technical

621
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:34,640
assistance grant that is starting up um
trying to engage people and thinking

622
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:38,319
about what that could look like and how
people could participate as volunteers

623
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:41,920
and that kind of thing. So, um,
everyone's welcome to attend and you'll

624
00:54:39,839 --> 00:54:48,240
see those flyers going out hopefully
this weekend. Um, and we heard an update

625
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:54,640
from our recreation economy for rural
communities folks. Um, the first step of

626
00:54:51,359 --> 00:54:59,280
that grant program is a virtual peer
convening, which is bringing together

627
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:05,280
people from all 25 communities
nationwide that are participating in the

628
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:11,599
program. this year um for exactly what
it sounds like just a convening to kind

629
00:55:07,359 --> 00:55:16,240
of uh share ideas, learn from each other
um and share strategies for the next

630
00:55:13,839 --> 00:55:22,960
part of this grant process over the next
12 months. Um so we have a steering

631
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:26,800
committee of 12 people and they'll be
able to attend if they like and that'll

632
00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:34,079
help us just kind of get started and get
oriented for that whole process. Um and

633
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:39,760
we've given them dates and availability
for um community workshop. Part of this

634
00:55:37,839 --> 00:55:44,160
program is a two-day community workshop
in the town of Jay. Um steering

635
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:49,920
committee was really helpful in
providing their availability and we did

636
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:54,960
let the folks at the the EPA who run the
program know that um it really needs to

637
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:59,200
happen between May and October so that
people can be outside during that

638
00:55:56,559 --> 00:56:03,920
workshop. Uh so stay tuned for more
updates. As they set a date, we will let

639
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:08,640
people know and get that out to the
community. Uh and that's all we've got.

640
00:56:06,559 --> 00:56:12,960
Thank you.
>> Thank you. Any uh comments or questions,

641
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:16,000
Miss Dwire?
>> Thank you.

642
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:19,920
» All right, moving on. Climate smart task
force, Mr. Sour.

643
00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:26,559
» Uh yes, so we got the audit of this
building back. It's a heavy document.

644
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:31,920
Um, you [clears throat] know, we we're
actually going to have a meeting with a

645
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:38,720
LNF engineering um to make sense of it
all. Um, and u that was January 20th,

646
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:43,520
right? schedule that for. So, and after
that NAERTA will be part of that meeting

647
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:49,920
and after that we're going to have to
meet with NERA to kind of um qualify

648
00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:59,839
what we really can do with it's probably
$575,000

649
00:56:51,839 --> 00:57:03,520
left of that grant. Um and u you know
some of the things that they've talked

650
00:57:01,359 --> 00:57:11,599
about is actually insulating the roofs.
um that is in the audit as a recommended

651
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:17,280
um hot water heater is recommended to be
changed to an air source water heater.

652
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:21,440
Um and then there's a lot of data on
windows. There's a lot of data on

653
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:26,319
insulation. Um one of the
recommendations that they do have seem

654
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:32,079
seem to have is actually to inflate the
walls. Um you know I don't know what

655
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:37,359
that's where the biggest heat loss is
apparently. Um so not sure exactly what

656
00:57:35,359 --> 00:57:43,920
the cost would be. There's some data of
that is in the in the audit as well some

657
00:57:40,079 --> 00:57:46,720
cost estimates but um once we've had the
meeting with them and we have a better

658
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:53,200
understanding of exactly what they're
saying we'll bring it to the board and I

659
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:56,480
actually share a copy of the audit with
everybody.

660
00:57:54,799 --> 00:58:00,640
» Can you send me a copy of it too?
>> Yeah. Yeah. I got to do the RFP and

661
00:57:59,599 --> 00:58:04,799
contracts
>> and the meeting is telephone.

662
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:09,319
» Uh it's a meeting.
>> Okay. Can I get on that?

663
00:58:06,319 --> 00:58:09,319
» Yeah.

664
00:58:09,839 --> 00:58:16,640
» So January 20th at 2 o'clock.
>> Okay.

665
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:21,400
» And they haven't sent the link yet?
>> They did this this afternoon.

666
00:58:22,319 --> 00:58:29,760
» Yeah. Sometimes.
So yeah. Uh so we'll see what uh what's

667
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:34,640
in that audit but um there's also an
extension which is good on the time

668
00:58:31,599 --> 00:58:39,520
frame. Uh I think that's uh was passed
through that we can have another 12

669
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:45,920
months possibly uh so we don't have to
stress and get it all done this year. Um

670
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:52,240
we'll get another year um and u yeah so
more on the audit as we get a little bit

671
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:59,040
wiser uh on that. We were awarded a
complete streets policy and planning for

672
00:58:55,200 --> 00:59:03,520
biking and walking grant for $30,000.
Uh I don't know that we've gotten an

673
00:59:00,799 --> 00:59:08,720
official award letter yet.
>> So once we get that, we'll um bring it

674
00:59:06,559 --> 00:59:13,359
to the next board meeting for acceptance
of [clears throat] the grant. This is a

675
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:20,799
grant that is a planning grant um that
requires a 50% match. Um but uh even

676
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:27,200
though there is depending on the cost 25
to $30,000 a lot of that can be covered

677
00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:32,640
by inind hours and volunteer hours um
having a plan like that in place will

678
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:37,680
score us much higher if we apply for
grants for sidewalks for instance. Um so

679
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:43,760
I think it's an important uh plan to
have so that we can apply for grants for

680
00:59:40,079 --> 00:59:48,400
sidewalks and other um items that we
would or projects that we would

681
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:52,720
undertake. Anyway, so uh and that's it.
There's a lot of the other stuff I think

682
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:56,760
is in your report.
>> Any questions for Mr. S?

683
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,631
» All right.
[clears throat]

684
01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:10,000
Miss Lucari is not here. Um I do know
human services um

685
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:13,599
they did not meet um they met at the
beginning of December before our last

686
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:21,200
meeting but have not met um this month.
I know they are continually working um

687
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:27,200
with St. James Episcopal Church on the
food bank. Um they did get an email

688
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:34,480
today because the federal pause on SNAP
and um a bunch of the food uh federal

689
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:40,079
food programs um their uh status uh with
the Aderondac food bank is

690
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:48,880
paused if you will until um that stuff
restarts back up. So, um the food bank

691
01:00:43,599 --> 01:00:56,240
is um working just off of donations. Um
and they will be uh receiving onethird

692
01:00:52,720 --> 01:01:00,400
of the money raised by during the change
round up around the holidays. So, they

693
01:00:58,319 --> 01:01:03,680
should be getting that. If anybody does
want to make a donation to the food bank

694
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:10,160
and they want to make it via credit card
or debit card, those um those donations

695
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:14,720
can still be made through um Cornell
Cooperative Extension through their

696
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:19,440
website and you can actually earmark uh
which food bank you want that or food

697
01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:25,680
pantry um in the county you want that to
go to. Um so they're doing great work.

698
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:32,000
Um I mean you never want to see numbers
high in a food bank. Um but they have

699
01:01:29,599 --> 01:01:38,079
been um really pounding the payment and
getting the word out and they have been

700
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:42,559
seeing um triple quadruple the numbers
of what we ever saw when the food pantry

701
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:46,880
was here. So um I commend them on their
work. Um

702
01:01:45,599 --> 01:01:53,280
anybody have any questions about the
human services committee that I can take

703
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:58,400
back to um Miss Lucari?
All right. Uh Mr. Walters has met with

704
01:01:55,520 --> 01:02:03,599
me um a couple times about comprehensive
plan special board. I know there are a

705
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:12,720
lot of stakeholder interviews um that
are going on. I put um her uh Dr. An in

706
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:18,720
touch with um Bosable Valley uh this
week uh to talk about uh the school

707
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:23,760
profile for the comprehensive plan. Um I
have included um our highway department

708
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:28,559
along with you two on the highway
committee um to speak to her as well

709
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:32,160
about our needs through the highway
department. She's already had a

710
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:38,480
conversation with Mr. Mintz in water and
sewer. Um she is going to be talking to

711
01:02:36,079 --> 01:02:42,720
Nicole um and North Country Rural
Development about the work that we've

712
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:48,319
been doing um in economic development.
So that can get in the plan as well. Um

713
01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:52,559
she's got a list of like 25 uh
stakeholder interviews that she is

714
01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:57,760
doing. Um a lot of those have been
recommended by the comprehensive plan

715
01:02:54,319 --> 01:03:03,119
special board themselves. Um and she
also put together and submitted to the

716
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:11,839
comprehensive plan special board. Um I
think it was 180 page draft community

717
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:16,400
profile. um which is um got quite a few
comments back from the board members um

718
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:21,760
for updates and detail and
clarification. So they are hard at work

719
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:26,079
on the comprehensive plan. We should be
seeing a draft of the plan sometime

720
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:32,640
around springtime and they have their
next comprehensive plan special board. I

721
01:03:28,799 --> 01:03:37,480
believe it is on Monday night at 6:30
>> the night. Oh, maybe

722
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:42,240
» Oh, we're a week early because first
fell on a Thursday.

723
01:03:41,119 --> 01:03:45,520
» So, it's on the 19th.
>> Okay.

724
01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:50,240
» Yeah. At 6:30.
>> Um, am I forgetting anything?

725
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:55,724
» No. Just thank you to everybody that's
working with um Dr. Holland. The

726
01:03:52,799 --> 01:04:00,240
community is super thorough and
[clears throat] a really valuable um

727
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:04,720
document for us to have moving forward.
and it's um last strong because of

728
01:04:02,559 --> 01:04:09,039
everybody that shared their expertise
and knowledge with Dr. Holland. So

729
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:13,440
appreciate everybody making the time to
speak with her and contribute.

730
01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:14,480
» Thank goodness for Holy Walk.
>> Yeah.

731
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:18,240
» Yes.
>> Truly.

732
01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:27,440
» That's been amazing work.
>> Um yeah. So um moving on to the

733
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:32,319
supervisor's report. Um correspondence.
I mean, just to follow, um, actually off

734
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:37,359
of the comprehensive plan special board,
um, I was contacted by the APA, um, to

735
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:40,640
go present at one of their board
meetings. It was actually going to be

736
01:04:39,039 --> 01:04:47,039
the board meeting on the 22nd of this
month. Um, but I got bumped because they

737
01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:53,520
had more important business than me. Um,
but I am going to be, um, I'm employing

738
01:04:51,760 --> 01:05:01,119
Mr. Walters and the comprehensive plan
special board their knowledge to um help

739
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:07,200
me develop about a 30 to 40 minute uh
presentation that I can give to the APA

740
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:12,000
board about what we have been doing. Um
the reason I've been asked to speak to

741
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:16,000
the APA is because of the economic
development work we've been doing. um

742
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:24,480
the work that we've been doing with the
Essex County Land Bank and um some of

743
01:05:19,119 --> 01:05:31,039
the the trials that we have um with uh
the Hamlet um and I am going to be

744
01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:35,839
calling back to um a discussion that
Supervisor Douglas had at the APA about

745
01:05:33,839 --> 01:05:42,240
the possibility of Hamlet expansion
because of the buyouts of uh the FEMA

746
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:47,440
buyouts from Irene and storms prior to
that. So, um it's going to be a good

747
01:05:44,319 --> 01:05:51,680
opportunity to really uh showcase in
front of the entire APA board um the

748
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:57,920
needs of the town of Jay. So, I'm really
excited for that. It uh will probably be

749
01:05:55,440 --> 01:06:01,920
either now the the February or March
meetings that I will go present for

750
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:08,880
that.
Um, next thing of correspondence I have

751
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:14,960
is um the Essex County Suicide
Prevention Team has request the use of

752
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:20,079
the J Village Green. Um, they would like
to um they would like to have a race

753
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:24,880
beginning at the J Village Green head
towards Upper Jay on Route 9 end. Um,

754
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:29,520
they asked if I knew of any events
happening on June 7th from 9 to 2 at the

755
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:36,240
J Green Green. Um, asking how they can
reserve the space. Um and um

756
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:40,720
they're then also going to reach out to
GEMS to to utilize the theater space. I

757
01:06:39,039 --> 01:06:46,720
don't know if it'll be ready by then. Um
that's a question for them. So um this

758
01:06:43,839 --> 01:06:54,960
was a request brought through the human
services committee um and missing

759
01:06:50,799 --> 01:07:02,640
um to bring to the board. So, um, we
don't really have a use policy per se,

760
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:08,240
um, for the J Green. Um, and I don't,
uh, I don't foresee, um, anything

761
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:12,079
happening on June 7th, unless you guys
are aware of anything.

762
01:07:09,599 --> 01:07:16,799
» I'm going to say we'll confuse it, but
we don't like specify correcting

763
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:23,039
it. Correct.
>> So, and the thing I also um want to make

764
01:07:20,559 --> 01:07:28,160
clear to them is with and I'm sure
because it's being um this is actually

765
01:07:25,599 --> 01:07:33,839
being put on by Essex County, the
suicide prevention team, which is

766
01:07:30,319 --> 01:07:38,960
through um health services and possibly
the brief coalition. Uh they'll be

767
01:07:36,559 --> 01:07:42,799
dotting all of their eyes and crossing
all of their tees because I'm sure if it

768
01:07:41,039 --> 01:07:46,240
gets on Mr. Manning's desk at the
county. He'll make sure they have all

769
01:07:44,799 --> 01:07:50,880
necessary permits.
>> Are we going to have to sign a facility

770
01:07:49,359 --> 01:07:53,760
and provide insurance?
>> Yeah, we can have them sign that same

771
01:07:52,799 --> 01:07:57,599
exact use permit.
>> Yeah, we can cross out some of the stuff

772
01:07:55,599 --> 01:08:01,839
just so that they clean it up. Anybody's
heard their response. I don't know what

773
01:07:59,839 --> 01:08:04,720
is the race on our roads.
>> It is on state roads.

774
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:10,400
» State roads. Okay. So, we're only
concerned with green,

775
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:18,480
» right? So, so, um, so I will take uh a a
motion and a second to allow them to use

776
01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:23,839
to use the space um filling out a um a
permit and providing insurance.

777
01:08:21,759 --> 01:08:29,520
» A motion by Mr. McDonald, second by Mr.
Sour. Any discussion?

778
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:35,120
None. All those in favor signify by
saying I.

779
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:41,279
» Anybody opposed? Motion carries.
Um boy, this must be the Mr. Walters

780
01:08:38,319 --> 01:08:46,080
hour of the meeting. Um because he had
also reached out to me um in a memo. Um

781
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:51,359
this had actually been brought up by a
couple of other residents in the town of

782
01:08:47,440 --> 01:08:58,480
Jay. Um it was um I know it is a concern
over in Lewis. Um but this is uh Mr.

783
01:08:55,920 --> 01:09:07,640
Walters actually put this in a memo in a
request uh to the town of J board. The

784
01:09:02,159 --> 01:09:07,640
APA is considering um a

785
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:18,960
155 millimeter hower barrel testing site
in Lewis. Um and I did not really

786
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:25,359
understand what a hower was until um Mr.
Walters being a retired US Army colonel

787
01:09:22,239 --> 01:09:31,600
explained what a howitzer actually is.
Um it's not a line of sight um weapon.

788
01:09:29,199 --> 01:09:40,640
It is actually a you lob something from
here and it may land two or three miles

789
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:46,799
down range. Um they are loud. Um so he
does he did um give us a lot of

790
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:52,960
information. Um this project was before
the APA. um they actually pulled it out

791
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:58,480
of one of their um one of their
hearings, made a hearing for itself

792
01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:03,040
because of the amount of comments they
got about it um and the concerns they

793
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:08,239
had about it. There was supposed to be a
meeting in December which got postponed.

794
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:14,159
The meeting is now going to be happening
uh the hearing is now scheduled for

795
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:21,600
February 4th. Uh Mr. Walters is asking
us um as a board um as the board of the

796
01:10:18,159 --> 01:10:26,560
town of Jay um to
uh let the APA know that we do not

797
01:10:24,159 --> 01:10:32,239
support this project project. Um I do
wish he was here tonight to answer any

798
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:40,960
questions. Um but um I am bringing that
before the board if we would like to um

799
01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:45,679
just state our um disapproval of this
testing range just over the mountain um

800
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:52,520
in Lewis.
>> I'd like to make a motion that the town

801
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:52,520
of Gay formally

802
01:10:52,719 --> 01:11:00,800
expresses its uh objection to the APA
approving

803
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:04,159
That should permit.
>> Do I have a second?

804
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:09,760
» I'll second that motion.
>> Second by Miss Doer discussion.

805
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:15,040
» I don't know enough about it to really
comment on it tonight.

806
01:11:12,159 --> 01:11:17,440
» It's I'm going to abstain from any
motion on it.

807
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:22,000
» I would as well, but I just I don't
know. I mean, we're in a different town.

808
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:25,760
We're telling another town to
>> So, this isn't actually being done by a

809
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,280
town. It is a private
>> I see that

810
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:32,080
» testing company.
>> Yeah. Right. But I still don't know

811
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:35,800
enough about it to make it educated.
>> We need to do this.

812
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:44,080
» I believe it's time.
>> It is time.

813
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:49,520
» It's the location is just across the
mountain range right on the other side.

814
01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:54,000
» I understand where it is, but I just
>> Yeah. No, I'm

815
01:11:51,679 --> 01:11:59,120
just saying there may be noise concerns
for town residents, number one. And

816
01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:07,199
number two, just in general, I think for
the rather part I don't personally don't

817
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:13,120
see a need for such a facility or test
range or whatever you want to call it.

818
01:12:10,239 --> 01:12:16,840
» Are they making them do noise reduction
processes or anything?

819
01:12:18,239 --> 01:12:30,640
» So this is I uh I did email this out to
you um earlier today. I just got it um

820
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:35,360
on Monday, Tuesday. Um so uh and Mr.
Walter was in my office sort of

821
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:40,239
explaining um
this um and he does live off of Black

822
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:47,560
Mountain Road
>> which would kind of be

823
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:47,560
» Yep. So I guess

824
01:12:47,679 --> 01:12:52,480
» yeah,
>> I guess I would go on even though I

825
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:58,320
haven't read all this yet because we
just got it. But I guess I would go on

826
01:12:55,199 --> 01:13:04,600
and I would vote for this only because
Walter's recommendation.

827
01:13:00,480 --> 01:13:04,600
I know his background and

828
01:13:05,679 --> 01:13:12,400
is there going to be any waste? I mean,
let's say they get this permit these

829
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:17,159
things up all the time. What happens to
all the residual waste? Maybe battery

830
01:13:14,159 --> 01:13:17,159
assets.

831
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:29,760
» So there is a there is in this uh if I
could um sort of um keep this as a

832
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:35,920
discussion of the board. Um
the their permit they're asking to be

833
01:13:32,719 --> 01:13:40,800
able to fire 30 times per year on
weekdays between 10:00 a.m. and 400 p.m.

834
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:46,400
for 5 years. The noise will be
considerable and clearly audible under

835
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:53,120
noise normal conditions 15 to 30 miles
away. Um I don't know the only thing

836
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:56,159
that I could sort of equate to this um
was when I was growing up when they used

837
01:13:54,640 --> 01:14:00,560
to blast at the quarry.
>> I knew when six o'clock in the morning

838
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:05,840
was because that's when our house shook.
>> Um so um I felt like we were on Mary

839
01:14:03,679 --> 01:14:10,560
Poppins.
But it's it's the type of thing if you

840
01:14:08,719 --> 01:14:14,640
guys don't feel comfortable, we can
always if we want to hold a special

841
01:14:12,719 --> 01:14:21,040
meeting to be able to discuss this to
give you guys time to read it. I think

842
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:25,280
anytime we try to send a letter um from
this board, it would carry a lot more

843
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:29,760
weight being unanimous other than a
divided vote. So I am I am okay with

844
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:32,000
tableling this um
>> and get some response put from the

845
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:37,840
committee.
>> Yep. We could definitely do that. try to

846
01:14:34,719 --> 01:14:43,280
get people to um put in writing. I know
the APA has done this already. The APA

847
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:49,600
may push this off again. Once again, it
was supposed to be on the docket in

848
01:14:45,679 --> 01:14:51,600
December and has been moved um moved to
February 4th.

849
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:54,400
» I mean, I've heard about it, but I
haven't paid a lot of attention because

850
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:57,120
it was a list. So,
>> well, I definitely want you guys to be

851
01:14:55,760 --> 01:15:02,239
able to read it before you make a
decision. Has it has it come up in front

852
01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:08,080
of the county and has the county board
supervisors discussed it at all?

853
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:16,480
» It has not come up to the county. Um I
do think in part um

854
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:22,880
the um outgoing supervisor I believe was
in favor of this project. Um, so I don't

855
01:15:19,199 --> 01:15:27,600
think it was brought up because
that's usually where a resolution comes

856
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:33,760
to the county from is usually from the
town supervisor. Um, we have not heard

857
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:37,199
anything from the incoming supervisor of
the county.

858
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:40,400
» What about the other neighboring town
with town?

859
01:15:38,239 --> 01:15:44,320
» I have not heard from any other town.
>> I mean, I can also reach out to those

860
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:47,280
supervisors about it as well.
>> Absolutely.

861
01:15:45,440 --> 01:15:52,560
» Very much. I would just say I I have
followed this story through the fall. Um

862
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:57,679
I know they did aformational meeting in
the town of Lewis and um the gentleman

863
01:15:55,040 --> 01:16:01,920
who owns unconventional concepts spoke
and did a presentation so it may be

864
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:06,239
worth inviting him to be a guest at a
meeting and share that information. Um,

865
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:10,719
what I learned from some of that is the
company currently operates over in

866
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:15,440
Lewis, I believe. Um,
there's a cold war missile silo over

867
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:21,360
there where they do explode ordinance.
And the difference with this project is

868
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:27,600
that this would be above ground. Um, so
it' be out of doors, no muffled sound.

869
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:31,440
And I think it's really important for
the town of J residents to hear more

870
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:36,800
about it. I share Mr. Walter's concerns
about noise. Um, there's plenty of

871
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:40,640
noises in the town of Jay. I know,
especially in fall and winter when

872
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:45,760
leaves start falling off the trees. I
have a friend who lives a mile away,

873
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:49,520
they can hear my beagle bark. Um,
and you know, in fall when people are

874
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:53,920
sighting in guns for hunting season, you
can hear that up and down at the valley.

875
01:16:51,199 --> 01:16:58,480
So, noise certainly carries. It's just
what kind of noise and is it appropriate

876
01:16:55,920 --> 01:17:03,840
for our community and our community
character and uh the way of life that

877
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:10,000
people um value and want in the town of
Jay. Uh to me, this crosses that line

878
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:12,960
and it's just not really um a benefit to
our community. I think it would be

879
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:18,000
really unfortunate if it happens and it
would have a big big impact on quality

880
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:21,560
of life here.
So the next appointment

881
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:35,760
» would it make sense to request not
necessarily objective to it? Would that

882
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:43,440
be something we all could agree on but
maybe request them to have the the owner

883
01:17:40,239 --> 01:17:49,040
operator to have a public hearing in the
town of J or something that extent? I

884
01:17:45,679 --> 01:17:55,120
could to I I could reach out to this
unconventional concepts. Um

885
01:17:52,560 --> 01:18:01,040
I believe there is possibly a town of J
resident who works for them. Um and I

886
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:06,640
can reach out to them to see if we could
maybe maybe that special meeting could

887
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:09,199
be an information session for us all if
everybody is good in that.

888
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:11,920
» I don't even know what the purpose of it
is.

889
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:16,960
» I will reach out to try to get somebody
here. Maybe maybe at the same time maybe

890
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:20,080
uh get another neighboring town.
>> Yep. I'll try to reach out to do some

891
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,440
leg work because we got the facility
here that

892
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,679
» Yes.
>> 200 people out there.

893
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:28,000
» Perfect.
>> Great idea. I will reach out to them.

894
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:29,600
Everybody in favor of tableling this and
reaching out.

895
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:32,600
» Yes.
>> Perfect.

896
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:49,440
» All right. Next on to some updates. Um
the uh New York class update um is here

897
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:52,840
uh with this month's um interest in the
amount of

898
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,640
uh 9,929.84.

899
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:08,760
for uh 2025
we made $183,461.14

900
01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:17,760
worth of interest
um which is

901
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:23,719
if I remember we budgeted $175,000 worth
of interest or somewhere about that um

902
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:23,719
for 2025

903
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:32,320
um the financial report you're seeing
here is part of the supervisor's

904
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:38,640
financial report Um,
this is not a final complete 2025

905
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:45,360
financial report. Um,
Michelle did run through um a lot of

906
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:50,080
this to do a mock, if you will, um,
reconciliation, but there are still

907
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:55,600
several bills coming in through January
that are 2025

908
01:19:52,640 --> 01:20:00,120
um, bills. So, um, we will have a more
complete report for you next month.

909
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:11,440
uh wastewater facility upgrades. I know
uh Mr. Mintz um had mentioned that the

910
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:18,719
wastewater facility upgrade is
approaching substantial completion. Um

911
01:20:14,159 --> 01:20:24,960
we are working on the ban and grant
closeout. Um, we are really waiting for

912
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:30,640
the last major general contractor um,
invoice um, which will help us uh, get

913
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:35,360
the rest of the million-doll grant for
that project. Um, DFC has been on

914
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:41,600
several calls with us. We've been
talking to our bonding council at ORIC.

915
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:46,560
Um, and also with Mr. Manning's been on
those calls. Uh, I've tried to find

916
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:53,920
every friend that I can find to be on
that call and EFC still outnumbers us.

917
01:20:49,840 --> 01:21:00,320
So, um, it is a heavy lift and I thank
Community Resource uh, for their

918
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:05,440
extensive help. I met with Hannah Neely
yesterday. She has an Excel spreadsheet

919
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:09,360
for that project that goes across eight
different pages, has money broke out

920
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:13,040
between us, Blackbrook, how much we
paid, how much we've owed, what we've

921
01:21:11,199 --> 01:21:19,040
used to pay it. Um, it's a pretty
impressive form. So, um, that is nearing

922
01:21:16,719 --> 01:21:23,280
completion. Um, we will need to and
we're finding out what the final amount

923
01:21:20,719 --> 01:21:26,880
will be. Um, we will have to pay some
principal of the ban that we've been

924
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:32,239
using for two years. It will be an
offcycle payment in April. um we will

925
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:39,280
have the amounts that we will need to
pay to close out that ban um and then

926
01:21:36,239 --> 01:21:46,239
take over the long-term financing with
EFC would happen at the end of June. So

927
01:21:42,719 --> 01:21:50,960
um long story short, projects nearing an
end.

928
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:55,600
uh the DEC uh water meter mandate and
water upgrades once again while Hannah

929
01:21:53,280 --> 01:22:02,480
was here from community resources um
talked about applying for WEIA uh which

930
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:07,760
would be part of the CFA in July um we
would need to get this listed with EFC

931
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:13,920
um and have a finance plan. So we would
need to go through the bonding um of the

932
01:22:10,159 --> 01:22:20,400
project. Um, this is the water meter
updates and all of the shortterm

933
01:22:17,199 --> 01:22:27,520
recommendations that were made in the uh
facility report, water upgrade report

934
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:34,880
that was uh done um last February.
Uh we do already have a GIGP grant which

935
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:41,199
we were awarded for 600,000. That is a
stackable grant so we can keep going

936
01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:46,639
after funding. Um the one problem that
um Hannah did tell me is once we go

937
01:22:44,159 --> 01:22:51,520
after and correct me if I'm wrong Dan
once we actually make a resolution for

938
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:56,880
bonding to the project there is a time
frame um to get that project done or

939
01:22:55,040 --> 01:23:02,080
started
>> I think so. Um and so we would really

940
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:10,400
need to um have all of our ducks in the
row to apply for WEIA. Um which would be

941
01:23:05,679 --> 01:23:18,159
a 50 uh 50/50 split grant for the entire
cost. Um then once the GIGP is put into

942
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:23,760
that and then whether we with the income
survey um community profile uh income

943
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:30,080
survey that Mr. Vince is working on we
could get a hardship um grant which

944
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:33,760
would make it 60/40 as opposed to 50/50.
Um so just wanted to bring that to

945
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:38,159
everybody's attention that we are
working and looking at that. Um we may

946
01:23:36,239 --> 01:23:45,120
be bringing something to the board over
the next few months.

947
01:23:40,239 --> 01:23:53,679
Um the J and Upper J EV chargers um are
ready to be installed. Um, I do need a

948
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:59,120
resolution to prepay Apex Energy um in
invoice 18624,

949
01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:06,480
$3,389
for the J Green, and a resolution to

950
01:24:01,440 --> 01:24:11,520
prepay Apex um invoice 18263,
$13,73

951
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:19,440
for the upper JV charger. And these
amounts um are reimburseable from the

952
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:22,080
ZEV 2022 ZEV grant.
>> I'll make that

953
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:25,840
» motion by Mr. Sour. A second.
>> I'll second it.

954
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:29,360
» Miss Dwire, discussion
being none. Roll call vote, please.

955
01:24:27,440 --> 01:24:32,960
» The one the one in the park is they
touch base with Paul on digging.

956
01:24:32,159 --> 01:24:38,080
» Yes.
>> Yeah. When we know get a line in time to

957
01:24:36,480 --> 01:24:41,520
know when they're going to go in, we
will be reaching out to Chris and to

958
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:45,040
Paul so we know.
>> Week of January 19.

959
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:48,400
» Is it gay date?
>> Well, you say January.

960
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:51,840
» January 19th.
>> The week of next Well, not next week,

961
01:24:50,480 --> 01:24:56,800
week after.
>> You're going to be digging in January.

962
01:24:54,159 --> 01:25:03,120
» Good luck.
>> I got some ice breakers. Breakers.

963
01:25:00,239 --> 01:25:08,719
» Any other discussion?
Being non roll call vote, please.

964
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:11,440
» Yes.
>> Yes.

965
01:25:10,159 --> 01:25:14,960
» Yes.
>> Yes.

966
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:18,239
» No.
>> Motion carries.

967
01:25:17,199 --> 01:25:21,239
» That was for both of them.
>> Yep.

968
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:32,000
Um just an update on the El Forks
Historic District.

969
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:36,880
um letters have gone out to contributing
buildings in um historic district. Um

970
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:43,360
one of the reasons I do know that those
letters have went out is one of the

971
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:48,639
buildings sent an uh email um including
me saying that they were um on the state

972
01:25:46,159 --> 01:25:55,360
historic register.
They are for the historic district but

973
01:25:52,000 --> 01:26:03,120
not for an individual building like the
Graves Mansion or the Tahas Lodge. um

974
01:26:00,639 --> 01:26:08,719
those uh contributing buildings, that
letter um gives them information that

975
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:14,960
they can contact um
Shipo at the state um to see what what

976
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:20,400
benefits um are out there for their
specific contributing building.

977
01:26:18,239 --> 01:26:26,080
Uh River Road reconstruction. I'm just
leaving that on my supervisor's list

978
01:26:22,719 --> 01:26:30,480
because um we do have to go back out
there in the spring um to just look and

979
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:36,639
see if we need to do any lawn repair um
and we need to um work on actually

980
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:43,280
repairing the road. Um, so I did bring
that. I met with the freshwater center

981
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:49,199
um and talked to Gary um and Kelly about
that that we need to um look at that to

982
01:26:46,159 --> 01:26:53,320
see how we can shore up um along the
river there in the road.

983
01:26:54,960 --> 01:27:02,800
Um next thing I have on my list um is uh
Main Street. I brought this up already,

984
01:27:00,239 --> 01:27:09,920
so um I'll just quickly touch base about
being awarded the $315,000 grant. Uh

985
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:16,400
microenterprise grant um is the next
topic. Um

986
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:24,080
we uh we need to we got we heard back
from um HCR um which approved our grant

987
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:30,960
review committee. The two applications
that um qualified um for this round um

988
01:27:28,480 --> 01:27:39,679
went to our grant review committee. Uh
they met on Tuesday and they recommended

989
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:45,159
that um Fair and Square Renovations and
Property Maintenance. Um they requested

990
01:27:42,159 --> 01:27:45,159
$16,65346.

991
01:27:46,239 --> 01:27:55,159
Um the recommendation from the grant
review committee is to uh award that

992
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:55,159
entire amount of $16,65346.

993
01:27:56,080 --> 01:28:05,000
Um the second uh applicant was Young
Studio and Gallery requesting

994
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:05,000
$12,636.92.

995
01:28:05,440 --> 01:28:13,960
The committee um recommended they be
fully awarded as well $12,636.92.

996
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:24,560
um we just need to um pass a resolution
to award uh the applicants recommended

997
01:28:22,159 --> 01:28:30,800
by the grant review committee and I will
report this back to the Essex County

998
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:36,719
IDA. Um they are the ones who are
actually uprunning this these project

999
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:41,040
costs and then we'll get reimbursed um
from CDBG. So if I can have a motion and

1000
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:44,960
a second motion
>> Miss Dwer second

1001
01:28:43,199 --> 01:28:52,639
» Mr. McDonald discussion.
>> Yeah, just curious some for what the

1002
01:28:48,639 --> 01:29:00,560
idea what they using grant money for.
>> I don't know exactly. Um, I believe Fair

1003
01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:06,320
and Square um is um a property
maintenance company and I believe they

1004
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:12,480
are expanding their business um and
utilizing that money to expand their

1005
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:17,840
business and I think Young Studio uh and
Gallery are expanding um product lines

1006
01:29:16,239 --> 01:29:23,920
and all of this falls in line with the
regulations of the microenterprise

1007
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:28,800
grant. Um so there is still money out
there. So, I know that there are um

1008
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:33,280
several people who did not apply during
the first round um because there was a

1009
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:38,480
lot of talk that this grant isn't good
for anybody, so why did we get it? Um

1010
01:29:35,679 --> 01:29:42,159
so, there are now some examples of
people utilizing this grant and I

1011
01:29:40,639 --> 01:29:46,719
believe it can help grow some of the
small businesses that are in our town.

1012
01:29:44,239 --> 01:29:51,840
So, if anybody is interested in this, I
can put them in touch with the Essex

1013
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:56,000
County IDA. Um, and this grant was a
$200,000 grant and we're only utilizing

1014
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:59,199
less than
>> the next deadline.

1015
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:01,040
» There isn't a deadline site yet.
>> Okay.

1016
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:06,400
» So, you can apply, still apply.
>> Can still apply. Yep. Absolutely. We'll

1017
01:30:03,679 --> 01:30:11,199
be announcing that. Um, and in order to
apply, there is a a dayong workshop that

1018
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:15,280
gets put on by the small business
development. um in order to apply, they

1019
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:20,320
actually walk you through the
application, um help you work through

1020
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:26,320
your financials because you do have to
turn financials over for this grant

1021
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:31,520
opportunity. Um and then the program is
um actually it's administered by the

1022
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:36,080
IDA, but it is also overseen by the
Essex County IDA to make sure that all

1023
01:30:33,679 --> 01:30:40,800
pro project guidelines are actually met
during the grant period. Um, brick close

1024
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:45,679
out for this would be uh in the summer
of 2027.

1025
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:48,639
Any other discussion?
>> Uh, businesses throughout the entire

1026
01:30:47,679 --> 01:30:51,920
town of J. Right.
>> Correct.

1027
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:55,199
» And it because it was a town of J
project, they do have to reside within

1028
01:30:54,159 --> 01:30:58,000
the town of J. Got it.
>> But the business has to be within the

1029
01:30:57,120 --> 01:31:01,840
town of J.
>> And there's some income restrictions.

1030
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:08,320
» There are income restrictions. So the
income restrictions are for um the

1031
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:17,120
actual business owner or if it is
creating a a a low to the median income

1032
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:21,040
job um it is allowed for that as well.
Any other discussion

1033
01:31:19,199 --> 01:31:26,560
being none all those in favor signify by
saying I.

1034
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:36,440
» Anybody opposed? Motion carries.
Uh Grove update. Gro is done open. Um,

1035
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:36,440
these are some final invoices. Um,

1036
01:31:41,679 --> 01:31:49,520
and I've just seen I put one of these
resolutions under the wrong topic. Um,

1037
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:56,199
resolution is the prepaid H&T
engineering invoice 3109 for the sum of

1038
01:31:53,199 --> 01:31:56,199
$1,580.

1039
01:31:56,960 --> 01:32:03,000
37
because the um

1040
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:13,760
» this should be the last one, right?
>> This is the last bill. Balance due

1041
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:19,280
usually takes the overall cost and
includes contingency and they probably

1042
01:32:16,239 --> 01:32:23,679
could not um
I will check on that and get back to

1043
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:26,840
you. Did they take off for not spraying
the lines?

1044
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:36,000
» Spraying the yellow lines.
>> That wouldn't be with the engineer. That

1045
01:32:33,440 --> 01:32:41,679
was in those bills with last month.
>> No, that um

1046
01:32:39,679 --> 01:32:46,239
I will also double check on this, but
just so I can get prepay approval for

1047
01:32:44,239 --> 01:32:51,600
this to pay the 1580.
>> Okay. Second. Uh

1048
01:32:48,719 --> 01:33:00,040
» Mr. Forbes discussion
being none. Roll call vote please.

1049
01:32:53,440 --> 01:33:00,040
» Do do you want resolution? That's more

1050
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:07,360
» um
roll call vote please. Tammer.

1051
01:33:05,679 --> 01:33:10,400
» Yes. [clears throat]
>> Yes.

1052
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:12,719
» Yes.
>> Yes.

1053
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:16,120
» Yes.
>> Motion carries.

1054
01:33:19,440 --> 01:33:27,600
So the next resolution that I have on
here I should have actually had up with

1055
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:31,440
our wastewater facility. Um this is when
I saw the name I was like that's not a

1056
01:33:29,199 --> 01:33:37,120
Gro pipeline isn't doing any work at
Gro. Um so this is a resolution prepaid

1057
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:41,159
pipeline mechanical invoice number four
in the amount of $2.94

1058
01:33:42,480 --> 01:33:53,120
» by Mr. McDonald. Second Mr. orbs
and I believe for pipeline this is their

1059
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:59,560
final invoice.
Any other discussion

1060
01:33:55,199 --> 01:33:59,560
» being none roll call vote please?

1061
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:02,600
» Yes.

1062
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:09,480
» Yes.
>> Yes.

1063
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:09,480
» Yes. Motion carries.

1064
01:34:10,239 --> 01:34:16,960
Um just an update. The solar panel um on
the highway garage is up and running.

1065
01:34:16,159 --> 01:34:21,920
» Hey,
>> um

1066
01:34:18,480 --> 01:34:27,440
the training has been very spotty. They
worked with the highway guys on it one

1067
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:33,840
day and then of course the internet was
out for a week and a half and um

1068
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:40,639
I sort of got told how I can log into
it. Um I did log in today at 1:00 and

1069
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:49,040
today um the highway garage at 1:00.
today alone had um created 37 kilowatts

1070
01:34:45,440 --> 01:34:52,480
today for the world. So
>> um you don't want them know the days

1071
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:56,239
that cloud your snow.
>> No, I have I have solar panels and I'm

1072
01:34:54,639 --> 01:35:01,120
looking at it every day.
>> One day it was 2 kilow but still 2

1073
01:34:59,440 --> 01:35:08,390
kowatts is 2 kow.
>> As Mr. Mint pointed out it's running a

1074
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:13,239
uh 100 watt light bulb for 20 hours.
>> [laughter]

1075
01:35:10,239 --> 01:35:13,239
» So,

1076
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:20,560
» yeah, that's great.
>> Yes.

1077
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:26,080
» Um, I just want to update you the salt
shed uh site plan. Um, I did sign that

1078
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:32,880
contract we approved last month. I'm an
MJ engineering. Uh, we'll be working on

1079
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:38,080
that around um the weather um fund
balance policy. Um

1080
01:35:35,440 --> 01:35:42,719
» that that is just about done. We had a
few tweaks. We met with Councilman Sour

1081
01:35:40,719 --> 01:35:48,400
and Mr. Manning. We met before the
meeting just made a few tweaks. We'll

1082
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:56,800
send out the final
final to board email before. Perfect.

1083
01:35:53,040 --> 01:36:00,800
That's great to know. Good.
Um,

1084
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:05,040
next thing is the community center
energy audit which we talked about um

1085
01:36:02,639 --> 01:36:10,320
and confirmed that that meeting is
January 20th at 2 o'clock. Um, I will be

1086
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:16,480
I made a note Mr. Manning to send you
the invite.

1087
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:23,040
» Never mind, Mr. Sour already be.
>> All right. Next, um, have uh the New

1088
01:36:20,239 --> 01:36:29,840
York City Association of Towns Training.
Um, I need approval for overnight

1089
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:37,199
travel, um, for our judge, for myself
and Michelle, um, and for, uh, Mr.

1090
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:43,040
Forbes as well.
>> Motion by Mr. McDonald. A second.

1091
01:36:42,239 --> 01:36:48,560
» I'll second,
>> Miss Dwire. Discussion.

1092
01:36:46,159 --> 01:36:53,040
» Yeah, I have a question. So, for I think
I mean this New York City gets

1093
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:57,119
expensive. What's I mean, I think
is there's only one town board member

1094
01:36:54,800 --> 01:37:02,960
going and that's fine but I think we
should set a policy as a town board to

1095
01:36:59,440 --> 01:37:08,080
only allow attendance of this conference
once per term. Uh the reason why I say

1096
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:15,280
it is because all of that information
the training is available online and um

1097
01:37:13,440 --> 01:37:21,199
yeah going to a city for three or four
days on how many nights it is three

1098
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:26,320
nights is uh quite a costly endeavor. um
and uh you know maybe for a supervisor

1099
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:31,280
um should be once a year because it's
good networking and so forth but I think

1100
01:37:28,639 --> 01:37:34,560
more so for other um officers and
employees

1101
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:39,520
um
I I feel once once per term once every

1102
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:44,320
four years more than sufficient for that
training um I will just be the devil's

1103
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:50,719
advocate for that because I know you did
say um it is good for the supervisor for

1104
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:57,600
networking which I totally agree And
there is a chance um right now I sit on

1105
01:37:54,000 --> 01:38:05,360
AOT's uh resolution committee um which
is the pipeline to get on to the AOT

1106
01:38:01,199 --> 01:38:12,880
board. Um if I get on the board I get
paid by AOT to go down. Um but it is I

1107
01:38:10,159 --> 01:38:20,480
can say my first year I went I was like
this is kind of um it was less than what

1108
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:26,239
I expected. Um, and then as I came back,
um, I found myself, um, reaching out to

1109
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:31,040
the people I hadworked with. Um, some of
the classes I had took, uh, really had

1110
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:36,239
ideas that popped into my head that were
good things for the town. Um, it is a

1111
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:41,040
great place in that trade show. Um, one
of the things that, um, we are going to

1112
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:48,080
be talking about is our accounting
system. um which our accounting system

1113
01:38:44,480 --> 01:38:54,080
as well as the
um

1114
01:38:50,639 --> 01:38:59,199
our budgeting software, our software for
our highway department, um our our

1115
01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:04,639
software for our town clerk, for our
codes. There are several vendors down

1116
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:09,679
there. There's a vendor fair which is um
really useful for us to go to to start

1117
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:16,719
to get different companies to compare
quotes um to test products um to set up

1118
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:22,480
dates to test products as well. Uh so it
has been very informative. Um I know

1119
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:30,080
Michelle there is uh when she has gone
down she has sought in um New York

1120
01:39:26,639 --> 01:39:34,719
retirement uh meetings which they seem
to change something every year um about

1121
01:39:32,480 --> 01:39:38,719
how to report how we utilize our
accounting to report. Um she has been

1122
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:43,679
learning more about budgeting and
financial stuff which has been great.

1123
01:39:41,199 --> 01:39:49,520
Um, yes, a lot of the stuff is online as
well. Um, but I have found that I do

1124
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:52,639
carry um a lot of that stuff with me um
throughout the year. So, yeah,

1125
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:56,320
» I just wanted to add that to the
discussion and I want to add to it. Two

1126
01:39:54,239 --> 01:39:59,920
years ago when I went, it wasn't a full
cost of the town of Jay because I did

1127
01:39:58,480 --> 01:40:03,119
not have a room charge in the town of
Jay.

1128
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:06,639
» Yeah. No, still I mean it was tax more
than going to Albany for a meeting.

1129
01:40:05,199 --> 01:40:09,360
» I would class.
>> Yeah. Yeah, I mean

1130
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:12,480
I
>> if you want to make it one

1131
01:40:11,440 --> 01:40:16,560
» per
>> board member, not per term, but one

1132
01:40:14,159 --> 01:40:22,159
board member a year because there may be
a year that if it's your turn, you can't

1133
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:25,360
make it. But if it was someone else's
term, but they've already gone.

1134
01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:28,480
» Yeah. But I don't think that board
members do need I mean, there's

1135
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:33,760
learning, but again, if I learn
something and I go online, uh I mean to

1136
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:39,440
send you know what is the cost per for
the hotel is like 300 bucks and

1137
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:44,480
you know, PDMS and I mean right there on
time square and you know I understand

1138
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:52,239
that we need a big location to host all
the people and you know maybe six to 7%

1139
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:57,040
of the towns are you know down south but
it's really costly for small towns like

1140
01:40:54,719 --> 01:41:05,280
ours to send you know four or five
people and um and for what I personally

1141
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:12,000
feel I haven't gone um so I can't for
that But I compare it with the seen

1142
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:15,440
agendas and u you know the newly elected
training and all that information is

1143
01:41:13,679 --> 01:41:19,679
available online. That's you know I'm
really interested in learning and

1144
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:24,880
teaching ourselves about town board and
governors and governance and

1145
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:29,440
let's go online and do it that save the
taxpayer some money. That's all I'll

1146
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:34,560
say. Well, I'll also add um as part of
the resolutions committee, we did make

1147
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:39,920
some changes to the bylaws um for New
York State Associations of Towns and one

1148
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:44,480
of the provisions that was in the
original bylaws was that it had to be

1149
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:48,800
held President's weekend,
>> right?

1150
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:54,239
» Um and it had to be held in New York. We
actually removed the requirement for it

1151
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:59,920
to be held in New York. We also remove
the requirement that it needs to happen

1152
01:41:56,400 --> 01:42:04,880
um over president's weekend. Um so we
may actually see this moving around the

1153
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:11,440
state. Um and there may not be the need
or desire for anybody want to tra travel

1154
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:15,920
to Rochester or it may be less than one
year

1155
01:42:12,159 --> 01:42:20,960
» which I doubt but it might be in Albany
like not as many people would know.

1156
01:42:19,119 --> 01:42:23,840
There's a lure in New York City. Well,
there's also the cost of being in New

1157
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:25,920
York City.
>> Yes.

1158
01:42:24,639 --> 01:42:30,560
» I'm saying for people to go.
>> Correct. Well, that's what I'm saying.

1159
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:37,679
There's a cost for it because there it
is also the association of towns annual

1160
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:42,639
business meeting. So, you have to be
there in person to vote and represent

1161
01:42:40,159 --> 01:42:46,320
your town for the resolutions that
associations towns

1162
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:50,239
» and the voting person for Jay or for
Eddie Town is the supervisor.

1163
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:54,159
» Nope. We passed a resol as one of our
organizational resolutions. Makes me the

1164
01:42:52,480 --> 01:42:56,159
delegate. It makes Mr. Ford the
>> author. That's great. Got it.

1165
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:59,520
» So,
>> but it's it's a great it's a great

1166
01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:02,400
conversation to have and I'm glad you
started it. Um

1167
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:07,119
» well, I'll have one more thing too
because you're saying me to sit from a

1168
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:11,040
computer and listen to someone speak.
Yeah. But if you haven't been to a

1169
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:15,440
meeting down there, it's hard to say,
but I found that when I'm in the meeting

1170
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:19,600
down there in New York,
uh, not only is it what you learn in the

1171
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:21,920
class, but it's all the other questions
from the other towns that ask the

1172
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:28,159
presenter,
>> you got that wrong, too. You know, and I

1173
01:43:25,199 --> 01:43:31,040
mean there's there's something to it in
my opinion.

1174
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:34,480
» Yeah. No, no, I don't doubt maybe
>> but I don't disagree with the cost

1175
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:39,199
analysis but
>> again I mean let them do it in all you

1176
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:42,560
know fair for all the towns more
central.

1177
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:46,560
» Yeah.
>> Any other discussion?

1178
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:49,679
Be none. All those in favor signify by
saying I.

1179
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:54,000
» Anybody opposed?
>> Uh this is the association of town here.

1180
01:43:52,159 --> 01:43:58,080
» Okay. [laughter] We're still
>> still on the overnight.

1181
01:43:56,080 --> 01:43:59,679
» Okay.
All in favor?

1182
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:07,520
» I.
>> Anybody opposed? Motion carries.

1183
01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:10,520
Next, um is the 2026 insurance premiums.
Um

1184
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:20,639
I need a resolution to prepay. Uh it's
on several different invoices. I'm on

1185
01:44:16,639 --> 01:44:25,080
invoice 45945 through 45948.
Um it's a total of $93,953.75

1186
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:36,800
for the removal of our policies with
NBT. Um the insurance is Nimer

1187
01:44:33,662 --> 01:44:42,960
[clears throat] and um believe it or not
last year we had a 10-month policy and

1188
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:49,360
that 10-month policy
was $81,000

1189
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:53,760
approximately. This year, the 12-month
policy is 93,000. So, if you break it

1190
01:44:51,360 --> 01:45:00,000
down per month, the cost of the policy
went down per month by 3%. Um, we will,

1191
01:44:57,280 --> 01:45:06,159
because this is our second year, um,
this is our first renewal with Nimmer,

1192
01:45:02,159 --> 01:45:16,080
we had a 14 $15,000 credit with Nimer,
um, we get 7 and a half $7,500 back um,

1193
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:19,520
in uh, check in April from NIMER. So, if
I can have a resolution to prepay that

1194
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:26,159
those invoices.
>> Mr. McDonald. Second.

1195
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:31,119
» Mr. Sour. Um, any further discussion?
>> Be none. Roll call vote, please.

1196
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:35,280
» Yes.
>> Yes.

1197
01:45:32,719 --> 01:45:39,800
» Yes.
>> Yes. Motion carries.

1198
01:45:41,199 --> 01:45:48,480
» I turned over the wrong sheet.
Uh, next I want to bring uh to

1199
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:52,320
everybody's attention um we were
supposed to have a public hearing

1200
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:59,280
tonight at 6:45 for the slack and scale
exemption. Um, our lovely newspaper that

1201
01:45:56,000 --> 01:46:02,960
we have as an official newspaper um only
accepts legal ads uh certain days during

1202
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:09,280
the week because they only publish
Tuesday through Saturday. Um and with

1203
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:15,280
the holiday the public hearing notice um
the required public hearing notice did

1204
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:19,360
not get um into the paper on time. So
that's why we are not discussing this

1205
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:24,719
today. Um this is just to amend the
sliding scale exemption that we already

1206
01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:30,560
did talk about for those um $1
increments um up through the sliding

1207
01:46:27,440 --> 01:46:38,400
scale. So, I would like to set a public
hearing date um and time for uh the

1208
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:44,719
meeting next month, which is February
12th.

1209
01:46:41,199 --> 01:46:47,719
February 12th at 6:45 uh for a public
hearing.

1210
01:46:48,639 --> 01:46:57,280
» Well, we won't know. That's right. So
>> that may be a different

1211
01:46:53,440 --> 01:47:04,480
» So uh February 12th, 6:45
um p.m. right before the 7 o'clock

1212
01:47:00,159 --> 01:47:09,119
meeting um next month.
Um

1213
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:14,480
I wanted to bring this up uh because the
Essex County tax auction um is going to

1214
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:21,119
be happening later this month. Um, I sat
on a committee at the county on how to,

1215
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:27,199
um, get some of those properties in the
Essex County Landmake's hands um to be

1216
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:34,320
able to help move along the effort of
affordable housing in Essex County.

1217
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:40,880
Uh the problem with uh trying to get
land into the land bank's hands is the

1218
01:47:37,440 --> 01:47:45,760
Tyler Henipin um court case um and then
the preceding New York State law about

1219
01:47:43,280 --> 01:47:54,560
tax forclosure options that you need to
pay any surplus uh that is made in an

1220
01:47:50,639 --> 01:47:59,679
auction back to the uh original property
owner. Um there's a lot of work that

1221
01:47:57,520 --> 01:48:05,920
goes into that and there sometimes are
not people that you can find um that own

1222
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:12,080
those properties. They've just let them
go. They've been in estates that have no

1223
01:48:08,239 --> 01:48:16,639
descendants. Um so there are two ways
for the land bank to now get uh

1224
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:24,480
properties from a tax sale. the land
bank can either uh bid in the open

1225
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:30,400
auction and that is the going rate um or
they we can pull properties off the tax

1226
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:36,159
sale, do appraisals of those properties
and then have the land bank pay what

1227
01:48:33,119 --> 01:48:41,600
would be surplus um above what is owed
in taxes. Um I'm bringing this up for

1228
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:46,480
discussion doesn't have to happen
because there's very few properties in

1229
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:51,679
the town of Jay. Um, but there are a few
properties the land bank was interested

1230
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:56,480
in getting in and some other towns are
bringing this up to talk about doing it.

1231
01:48:53,840 --> 01:49:02,639
Um, and that would be to
um utilize up to $20,000 worth of

1232
01:48:59,920 --> 01:49:09,040
occupancy tax funds for the land bank to
bid on uh essentially our behalf, if you

1233
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:14,639
will, um, to acquire properties um, to
to purchase in that tax sale

1234
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:19,119
» in town. in only the town of Jay.
>> There's no buildings though, right? No,

1235
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:26,480
» there
two buildings. Um, one is the property

1236
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:33,000
we cleaned up over in Jersey on B Lane.
>> The other is the Blaze property that

1237
01:49:28,480 --> 01:49:33,000
sits on the corner next to Jersey Bridge

1238
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:42,800
here on the corner next.
>> So, um, just bringing it up for

1239
01:49:40,639 --> 01:49:46,159
discussion. I'm I don't even want to be
the one to make the resolution. Um I

1240
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:49,760
just want to answer questions if you
guys have any questions.

1241
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:55,760
» Both will be demo.
>> Um I have not done a site visit. They do

1242
01:49:53,760 --> 01:50:02,880
come in and do inspections of those
buildings and try to decide whether demo

1243
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:08,239
is the way to go. And they they do have
that um same grant.

1244
01:50:06,480 --> 01:50:12,080
» What's that? That was already down.
>> Yeah, we just removed the garbage

1245
01:50:10,719 --> 01:50:15,280
because it was a health hazard.
>> Oh, that was we did before. That's

1246
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:19,440
right.
>> So, you're proposing to let them spend

1247
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:21,760
over 20,000 on either one of these two
properties.

1248
01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:26,080
» That those are the only two properties
they could really bid on. They couldn't

1249
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:30,880
bid on the vacant land.
>> They could bid on vacant land, but

1250
01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:35,679
there's a lot of unknowns in vacant
land. Um, these two are very desirable

1251
01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:39,440
because they have water sewer, which is
why the property in upper J was

1252
01:50:37,679 --> 01:50:44,239
desirable because it's on water. It's
why the property that they we they

1253
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:49,360
applied and won grant funding to tear
down the old cross property at Jay.

1254
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:51,679
They're desirable because there's a lot
of known.

1255
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:55,600
» I just [clears throat] worry about the
bestest.

1256
01:50:52,719 --> 01:51:00,080
» Well, the tear down and anything
remediation of that stuff, they can get

1257
01:50:57,920 --> 01:51:05,040
grant funded. And the reason the land
bank utilizing the land bank to do this

1258
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:10,560
work is they have the ability to go
after grant money to tear down a

1259
01:51:07,199 --> 01:51:16,480
building. They also have a grant uh a
cross mod program. It's called move in

1260
01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:22,560
New York um that they have
they have I think it's up to 32 um cross

1261
01:51:20,159 --> 01:51:27,360
mod homes. Cross mod is just a modular
home set on a full basement. Um, and

1262
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:32,719
they already have been approved because
they've done one of those properties in

1263
01:51:29,199 --> 01:51:37,760
Nukem. And that is just that money New
York State pays for essentially the land

1264
01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:41,440
bank will pay for it. New York State
will reimburse the land bank and then

1265
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:45,119
they can go do another project.
>> So would there be an opportunity for the

1266
01:51:43,199 --> 01:51:52,239
town to recoup to 20 or is this an
investment?

1267
01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:57,440
» This would be um an investment. Um I I
Mr. Manning, as we were talking about

1268
01:51:54,400 --> 01:52:01,840
that that policy with the land bank, was
there a recruitment amount from the land

1269
01:51:59,920 --> 01:52:06,159
bank or it was essentially
>> the policy for the land bank has many

1270
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:10,960
things in it, but there is one section
that

1271
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:15,599
the county may appropriate monies for
those purposes and there's no

1272
01:52:12,480 --> 01:52:19,040
recruitment. But I think uh you're not
going to get any recruitment of your

1273
01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:22,800
monies, but you're still coming out on
the on the better end of the stick there

1274
01:52:21,440 --> 01:52:25,679
if you have to take care of these
properties or and they're blighted

1275
01:52:24,480 --> 01:52:30,400
properties. That's that's the main
thing. Vacant land's a good idea. When

1276
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:34,400
you want to do a low moderate income
housing, but we got to take care of some

1277
01:52:32,239 --> 01:52:37,599
of our blight and these two houses are
in a mess as far as the states are

1278
01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:39,199
concerned. It's like who's on first. You
just don't know.

1279
01:52:38,159 --> 01:52:42,800
» I guess that's where I was going with
it.

1280
01:52:39,440 --> 01:52:46,719
» Both of them are the abatement. they
would take care of it, not us.

1281
01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:49,840
» We wouldn't worry about it. 20,000 is
actually cheap

1282
01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:53,440
» because I know the the one that we're
tearing down in King Valley right now

1283
01:52:51,520 --> 01:52:58,800
cost people 45 grand.
>> Just to let you know, the cost of the

1284
01:52:56,000 --> 01:53:03,360
cost of the the Tom Cross property ended
up costing them $70,000 to remove.

1285
01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:09,520
» So, I I I mean, I would hate to see them
going into some slamlord that bids and

1286
01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:13,760
wins on it. I would rather the land bank
getting them those two properties and

1287
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:18,239
either converting them to something
useful or something you know taxes

1288
01:53:16,560 --> 01:53:22,960
» it would be converted to housing
ultimately

1289
01:53:19,599 --> 01:53:27,360
» or it may not it may just be light like
the blaze house it's on the corner

1290
01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:30,880
» I don't know if you want to build there
right unless you want to put a clock or

1291
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:37,440
something there or don't want to
speculate and think you know state's gen

1292
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:41,520
you're gonna get a windfall but anyway
Uh so just keep in mind when we dealt

1293
01:53:40,000 --> 01:53:48,719
with the cross property,
>> we did split what taxes what

1294
01:53:46,159 --> 01:53:54,719
anytime there are taxes on a property.
Um if the town of Jay is not made whole,

1295
01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:59,360
we actually uh the county makes us whole
on every one of our tax warrants.

1296
01:53:56,560 --> 01:54:03,920
» Um so we with the Tom Cross property
when it was donated to us, we passed a

1297
01:54:01,679 --> 01:54:09,280
resolution. spent occupancy tax to pay
half of those um taxes back to the

1298
01:54:06,639 --> 01:54:17,040
county. So essentially we were both made
whole. So that um it cost us

1299
01:54:13,440 --> 01:54:20,400
less than $7,000 to have a $70,000
remediation

1300
01:54:18,719 --> 01:54:22,639
» in this instance. I mean the tax auction
is on the 21st of January.

1301
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:25,119
» Correct.
>> So if you want to do something with a

1302
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:29,040
land bank, you're going to have to do it
quickly. If they were are going to bid

1303
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:31,840
on one or both of these properties,
you'd want to have a contract with them

1304
01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:33,520
and say, you know, we'll we'll give you
up for this amount of money.

1305
01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:36,880
» Yep.
>> And then you've got to do this. You've

1306
01:54:35,119 --> 01:54:40,560
got to tear it down within a certain
time period. You got to cart all the

1307
01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:46,560
stuff away within a certain time period.
Uh and then you can have, you know, uh

1308
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:51,760
if not, we either want our money back or
or something. But anyway, the thing

1309
01:54:48,639 --> 01:54:57,520
about the auction is, which is the best
situation, is the bid at the auction

1310
01:54:54,480 --> 01:55:04,239
sets the bar for any surplus that's
supposed to go back to the property

1311
01:55:00,159 --> 01:55:08,719
owner. Uh, so whatever the bid is,
anything, you know, there won't be any

1312
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:12,719
surplus back to the property owner. Um,
but there will be still back taxes. No.

1313
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:16,639
And back taxes will also be correct.
>> So that's that's the best of both

1314
01:55:14,239 --> 01:55:21,119
worlds. Yep. And so I mean I really
would recommend if you want those two

1315
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:22,080
places torn down that that we hop to it
with them.

1316
01:55:21,679 --> 01:55:27,040
» Yeah.
>> And uh we develop a contract that

1317
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:31,520
protects us but also incentivizes them
to to bid at that auction because if if

1318
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:35,440
it goes if it if there isn't a bid at
the auction but we do it the other way

1319
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:40,320
where we get the appraisal the whole
nine yards. Um

1320
01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:44,320
» there could be a yeah there would be a
more of a surplus

1321
01:55:41,920 --> 01:55:47,440
» and that's the best way to handle it.
And if you've got that 20,000 from

1322
01:55:46,719 --> 01:55:49,360
roost.
>> Yep.

1323
01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:54,719
» Uh
I think personally uh two things. I

1324
01:55:53,119 --> 01:56:00,880
think it's great that you'd be removing
that blight and it also looks great for

1325
01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:04,960
you as a political board. Come to that
and that's a great idea, Matt.

1326
01:56:02,639 --> 01:56:11,119
» Yes. Yeah. I I would I would like to
propose a resolution that we authorize

1327
01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:16,800
Matt to sign an agreement with the land
bank to

1328
01:56:13,599 --> 01:56:22,400
utilizing our tax money and I guess
10,000 to bid on up to 10,000 on each of

1329
01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:26,960
those properties
uh and sign an agreement the issued by

1330
01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:29,119
attorney Manning
>> and I have to protect the town's

1331
01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:34,080
interest
>> and I have talked to the land bank they

1332
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:36,639
would actually bid have the money bid
the money they would only

1333
01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:39,599
» ask for
>> ask for the money reimburse them if they

1334
01:56:39,119 --> 01:56:44,080
want
>> do they want is it better to divide it

1335
01:56:43,360 --> 01:56:51,320
» I would say
>> better to ear market 10,000 for each

1336
01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:51,320
property or just say 20,000 depending on

1337
01:56:55,280 --> 01:57:00,159
it don't matter to us
>> but it's

1338
01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:04,560
I know how to count
>> yeah [laughter]

1339
01:57:01,040 --> 01:57:07,440
and so there's no tax is paid and those
are

1340
01:57:05,119 --> 01:57:09,599
» I think it cleans two properties up.
>> Yeah. and

1341
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:15,199
» can I have a
>> and they defaulted so they can't come

1342
01:57:11,199 --> 01:57:20,639
back and say you know the motion the
motion is to authorize

1343
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:25,679
Matt Stanley Supervisor Stanley to sign
an agreement with the land bank to

1344
01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:31,679
utilize up to $20,000 of reimbursement
up to $20,000 of occupancy tax money to

1345
01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:37,040
bid on those two specified properties
and enter into an agreement and authorly

1346
01:57:34,639 --> 01:57:40,480
attorney Manning to you know protect the
town of

1347
01:57:38,239 --> 01:57:46,400
and ensure that work gets done within
certain time frames that

1348
01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:52,239
reasonable um
which I'll lead to

1349
01:57:49,599 --> 01:57:53,920
» leave up to the money until they're all
done with

1350
01:57:52,960 --> 01:57:58,239
» correct.
>> So I'll second that. question is how did

1351
01:57:55,840 --> 01:58:05,520
you come up with the 20 reason or
>> um I came up with the 20 because uh

1352
01:58:01,440 --> 01:58:12,080
talking to um Nikki at Essex County Land
Bank looking at previous tax sales um me

1353
01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:19,599
knowing the condition especially of Bert
Street and this one um we think that

1354
01:58:15,679 --> 01:58:24,320
both of those properties um she feels
confident that she she doesn't want to

1355
01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:25,920
bid more than that especially on either
property.

1356
01:58:25,119 --> 01:58:30,880
clean,
>> right? So,

1357
01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:36,159
» but it comes down to $2,000 more or
something, they're going to kick in for

1358
01:58:34,639 --> 01:58:40,400
it. Does it set a limit for them to bid
only that much money on?

1359
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:47,280
» It does kind of set that limit because I
mean, they've got 17 other towns that

1360
01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:52,080
might have the same idea, but maybe not
because I know we talked about the land

1361
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:55,119
or the county seating some of the money.
That's why it's in the policy. But I put

1362
01:58:53,840 --> 01:59:00,719
May,
>> but it's too it's too it's almost too

1363
01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:03,520
late for this one for the policy.
>> Yeah, there is no money in the budget

1364
01:59:02,719 --> 01:59:05,920
this year. Correct.
>> And I use the word may there because

1365
01:59:05,599 --> 01:59:08,560
right
>> I don't account.

1366
01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:13,040
» So if no other tenants put money in, we
do. They still may kick in extra money.

1367
01:59:10,719 --> 01:59:17,280
They may. They absolutely may because
what I will what I will tell you is they

1368
01:59:16,239 --> 01:59:20,880
have
>> they were kind of overwhelmed with how

1369
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:23,199
many properties they had
>> expecting to get some out of this tax

1370
01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:27,360
sale. Right
>> now that we it's almost there.

1371
01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:30,239
» This is the time to jump on this. I'm
telling you right now, you're never

1372
01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:35,440
going to have this kind of
>> deal. And that's a good idea came up.

1373
01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:39,119
» Well, I'm wondering should we go 25? I
mean, I don't know if we're that close

1374
01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:44,960
and lose out for
>> bucks or something. I don't know. uh

1375
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:50,239
» go up to 25, but I don't know.
>> Why don't you uh go 20 with them?

1376
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:54,320
» You can authorize Matt if he wants to go
to the tax sale

1377
01:59:52,239 --> 01:59:57,840
to say, "Yeah,
I think you're gonna the one on the

1378
01:59:56,480 --> 02:00:03,520
corner."
>> My supposition is shot. I mean, and it's

1379
02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:05,440
not very big. And who the heck wants to
live on that corner?

1380
02:00:04,639 --> 02:00:10,400
» Yeah.
>> Maybe Mr. deal with like a play for a

1381
02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:14,480
yard, but he'd have to tear it down. It
cost him 50,000 for us, especially if it

1382
02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:17,920
was asbestous.
>> So,

1383
02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:21,920
sees it online. I mean,
>> yeah.

1384
02:00:19,360 --> 02:00:29,280
» That is kind of the problem with we do
have there are a couple of properties.

1385
02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:35,520
Tom Cross property is a great example.
It what came up in a tax sale. He bought

1386
02:00:32,159 --> 02:00:40,320
it, noticed that it was going to cost
more money to renovate it or do anything

1387
02:00:38,480 --> 02:00:44,159
with it, didn't pay any of the taxes,
and it essentially was going to go back

1388
02:00:41,520 --> 02:00:49,840
on the tax sale until we intervened and
and were able to remove that. And it was

1389
02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:56,239
a land bank um thing that we knew it was
having um talked to uh the funeral home

1390
02:00:53,920 --> 02:01:01,520
operators who bought that patode
building and torn that down. that cost

1391
02:00:58,239 --> 02:01:05,760
them as a nonprofit $35,000 and other
people in J are very happy that it's

1392
02:01:05,360 --> 02:01:09,040
gone.
>> Yep.

1393
02:01:06,320 --> 02:01:14,639
» The fact that I mean he
>> we had to fight with some of the

1394
02:01:11,920 --> 02:01:19,920
supervisors to be able to fashion it
that way because

1395
02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:24,639
» you know the taxes were much more than
what was paid. Uh, another thing to to

1396
02:01:22,000 --> 02:01:31,679
note is, uh, even if it goes through tax
sale auction and let's say you bid on it

1397
02:01:28,080 --> 02:01:35,920
and you bid 20,000, the board can say,
"We're not going to allow you to bid on

1398
02:01:33,440 --> 02:01:38,560
that. Uh, sorry, it's in the terms and
conditions. We feel that we want to do

1399
02:01:37,360 --> 02:01:44,159
something else with it." Then they can
park it, do it all over again. Uh so

1400
02:01:41,920 --> 02:01:50,539
that if you feel you got a slum lord
hanging out there um hate that

1401
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:54,960
discriminate against you slum lords
[laughter]

1402
02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:58,800
but you can make that known of the board
say [clears throat] no we I went to the

1403
02:01:57,119 --> 02:02:03,280
television with a case like that and won
it

1404
02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:06,480
» um I won't say who it was but it was a
guy with a lot of money like a

1405
02:02:04,320 --> 02:02:11,199
millionaire but um
>> so that's an option too if if you get

1406
02:02:08,480 --> 02:02:15,760
out bid all is not lost you tell the the
board says because when we do the tax

1407
02:02:13,280 --> 02:02:18,639
sale the board has to pass and say yes
these we accept these but we don't

1408
02:02:17,520 --> 02:02:22,239
accept this one that one and that one
because we have uses for them or the

1409
02:02:20,239 --> 02:02:25,760
county J may have uses for them or we
don't think we got a lot enough money or

1410
02:02:24,159 --> 02:02:32,639
we don't we just don't like the
situation and you don't have to say why

1411
02:02:30,880 --> 02:02:35,040
» awesome any other discussion
>> reimbursement up to 20

1412
02:02:34,000 --> 02:02:38,239
» correct
>> yeah just if they get them for 10 it's

1413
02:02:37,119 --> 02:02:41,840
even better
>> so just to summarize everything we

1414
02:02:39,840 --> 02:02:46,880
talked about here. This is Roose or this
is occupancy tax money. So money that is

1415
02:02:44,639 --> 02:02:50,159
paid by visitors to town that stay at
motel, correct?

1416
02:02:48,000 --> 02:02:55,599
» Airbnbs, BRBOs's
>> comes back to Jay, remember from that

1417
02:02:52,719 --> 02:03:00,000
county policy of how to spend this fund.
Blighted properties is one of the uses

1418
02:02:58,080 --> 02:03:04,480
for this. So it's an appropriate use of
the funds. Um, as far as you know what

1419
02:03:02,880 --> 02:03:07,599
we've heard from the community, I know
we've all heard it going through

1420
02:03:05,760 --> 02:03:12,480
election cycles in the last five years
and specifically during the

1421
02:03:09,760 --> 02:03:17,679
comprehensive plan process which is at
what two years. Um just I think this

1422
02:03:15,119 --> 02:03:22,560
really hits um the persistent concerns
of our community which is of course

1423
02:03:19,280 --> 02:03:27,199
number one affordable housing um main
street revitalization removing blight in

1424
02:03:24,800 --> 02:03:31,440
the downtown core um and what's really
come through in the

1425
02:03:29,760 --> 02:03:36,080
uh comprehensive plan like you said
supervisor Stanley is this idea of

1426
02:03:33,360 --> 02:03:40,080
hamlet infill where oable corks J upper
J um are the places in our town where

1427
02:03:38,639 --> 02:03:43,440
the most development is allowed by the
APA it's the place where we have

1428
02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:47,840
services available
um it's beneficial to all of us if we

1429
02:03:45,119 --> 02:03:52,639
can get more users in those using those
services. I know from Mr. Mintz we have

1430
02:03:49,520 --> 02:03:58,960
plenty of capacity for new users. Um so
we're putting people where we can where

1431
02:03:55,040 --> 02:04:04,320
we want them and um land bank are owner
occupied houses only. So we're bringing

1432
02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:09,280
people maybe a family right into town
and um just bringing life back to

1433
02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:14,159
downtown. So I like this idea a lot. I
think it's fantastic.

1434
02:04:12,159 --> 02:04:16,960
Austin, any other discussion?
>> I just thought I was going to make this

1435
02:04:15,360 --> 02:04:20,639
point. These houses will come out, come
out, come out, come out and Matt and I

1436
02:04:18,880 --> 02:04:25,440
have tried to figure out a way to get to
them, but it would there was no other

1437
02:04:22,719 --> 02:04:29,679
way. This is the best option. There's no
other way that would cost us not. And I

1438
02:04:27,520 --> 02:04:33,599
remember everybody there people, why
don't you take care of this house? They

1439
02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:38,880
don't have money, you know?
>> Yeah. I'm I'm all I can go forward and

1440
02:04:36,080 --> 02:04:44,480
go do all this stuff, but in the end
you're going to be out 60 70,000

1441
02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:49,840
» and occ the occupancy tax is less than
10 years that it's been in effect. Is

1442
02:04:46,560 --> 02:04:52,800
that right? Oh, no. It's been in effect
22 years,

1443
02:04:50,639 --> 02:04:54,159
» but initially it wasn't shared with that
and it was only

1444
02:04:53,760 --> 02:04:59,599
» right
>> 2% then became 3%.

1445
02:04:57,119 --> 02:05:02,480
» And when it became 3% 5 years ago, they
shared 1% with towns or something and

1446
02:05:01,520 --> 02:05:06,239
then the%
>> well it used to be 3% they added 2% so

1447
02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:10,960
it's a total of 5%.
>> Yeah. When the towns get back the other

1448
02:05:08,400 --> 02:05:15,360
2% and that's based upon a formula. It's
based I don't

1449
02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:19,040
if you want to know about the formula I
can sort of Yeah. I've read about it and

1450
02:05:17,440 --> 02:05:23,679
I forget it every time. I'll read about
it again.

1451
02:05:21,360 --> 02:05:29,119
» No, I just think it's great to your
point. Um, this has been a longterm

1452
02:05:26,400 --> 02:05:31,280
problem and now we have res resources to
deal with it and we're dealing with

1453
02:05:30,320 --> 02:05:36,000
that. So, that's great.
>> Yeah, this is a good way to handle other

1454
02:05:33,840 --> 02:05:39,159
pieces of property that come down. We're
just having

1455
02:05:40,639 --> 02:05:47,840
» if there's no other discussion. Any
other discussion? I'm sorry. Be none.

1456
02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:47,840
Roll call vote, please.

1457
02:05:48,639 --> 02:05:52,719
Yeah.
>> Yes.

1458
02:05:51,440 --> 02:05:55,040
» Yes.
>> Yes.

1459
02:05:54,239 --> 02:05:58,560
» Yes.
>> Motion carries.

1460
02:05:55,920 --> 02:06:07,280
» Nice job.
>> Next, we have just resolutions. Um the

1461
02:06:00,960 --> 02:06:12,239
next uh bill um is for
uh to prepay New York State retirement.

1462
02:06:10,480 --> 02:06:17,440
$955
for the annual bill. Just to tell you

1463
02:06:15,280 --> 02:06:23,440
about this, this was where we chose last
meeting to pay the bill early so we

1464
02:06:21,199 --> 02:06:29,360
wouldn't pay an extra like $1,500. It
was um we postmarked, we sent the check

1465
02:06:27,520 --> 02:06:34,960
out the day after the meeting. It was
postmarked, wasn't received by New York

1466
02:06:31,920 --> 02:06:41,440
State Retirement before the date of
December 15th. Um they tacked on this uh

1467
02:06:39,679 --> 02:06:46,880
$955.
we want to pay it down now because if it

1468
02:06:44,560 --> 02:06:52,000
goes in any later than February 1st,
they tack on another 5.9%

1469
02:06:50,239 --> 02:06:56,880
um
daily interest. So, we just would like

1470
02:06:54,719 --> 02:07:01,760
to get this out now, get it paid for.
It's $955.

1471
02:06:58,719 --> 02:07:10,199
» Make it
motion by Mr. Forb, second by Mr.

1472
02:07:04,639 --> 02:07:10,199
McDonald. Um, any further discussion?

1473
02:07:12,320 --> 02:07:19,199
» Well, I told Michelle I said next year
we don't pay this early. We keep the

1474
02:07:17,440 --> 02:07:25,199
money in New York class and then we'll
send the check out in 26 like we posted.

1475
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:29,000
Uh, any other discussion? Being none,
roll call vote, please.

1476
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:34,320
» Yes.
>> Yes.

1477
02:07:33,040 --> 02:07:39,003
» Yes.
>> Yes. Motion carries.

1478
02:07:36,960 --> 02:07:44,719
Um
[clears throat] a resolution to accept

1479
02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:51,320
the fourth quarter of 2025 sewer billing
in the amount of

1480
02:07:48,320 --> 02:07:51,320
$18,375.

1481
02:07:52,480 --> 02:08:00,239
» Motion by Mr. Sour, second by Miss
Dwire. Any discussion being none. All

1482
02:07:57,760 --> 02:08:05,760
those in favor signify by saying I. I.
>> Anybody opposed? Motion carries. Um we

1483
02:08:03,840 --> 02:08:11,679
did a resolution to move personal to
sick roll over sick time payout comp

1484
02:08:08,159 --> 02:08:17,880
time from 2025 for the highway. Um this
is to do the same um for my office. Um

1485
02:08:18,079 --> 02:08:25,840
» if I can get a resolution
motion by Mr. Sour second by Miss Dwer.

1486
02:08:24,480 --> 02:08:31,440
Uh any discussion?
>> Yes. So Mrs. Carol Greenway actual has

1487
02:08:29,199 --> 02:08:37,040
572 hours
>> of sick time.

1488
02:08:33,040 --> 02:08:43,199
» And how long can one that just continues
>> continues to build? Um and then when you

1489
02:08:39,920 --> 02:08:50,239
retire with New York State um it can add
to your years of service retirement.

1490
02:08:48,079 --> 02:08:55,840
» It can also be donated to our our land
or our sick bank if at some point in

1491
02:08:52,639 --> 02:08:59,520
time she will cash out on it. Right. at
some point.

1492
02:08:57,119 --> 02:09:03,320
» Um,
one would better off,

1493
02:09:04,000 --> 02:09:09,760
I guess, a policy issue, but at some
point in time, there's an impetive they

1494
02:09:08,000 --> 02:09:12,719
accumulate a certain amount of hours and
just pay them out.

1495
02:09:10,960 --> 02:09:15,360
» Sick time I don't think gets paid out.
It goes to your years of service for

1496
02:09:15,119 --> 02:09:20,079
depends
>> what your policy says, but generally

1497
02:09:17,280 --> 02:09:24,400
sick time doesn't vacation get paid.
>> Okay. So, it doesn't get paid out. No,

1498
02:09:22,960 --> 02:09:30,320
but I I mean different policies are
different, but generally ones I've seen

1499
02:09:26,159 --> 02:09:36,400
is vacation, you can keep up to 30.
>> Uh I sick you don't

1500
02:09:33,679 --> 02:09:41,440
» and uh and then a lot of policies say,
look, you know, you got 565 hours of

1501
02:09:38,480 --> 02:09:45,520
sick time, you're not using it all.
You're not going to just be sick because

1502
02:09:43,679 --> 02:09:47,440
you want to follow through with it
before,

1503
02:09:46,079 --> 02:09:51,599
» right? Yeah. I mean,
>> but that depends on what your policy

1504
02:09:48,960 --> 02:09:54,599
says. I I don't know what
>> Okay.

1505
02:09:54,719 --> 02:09:57,760
» Yeah.
>> Yeah.

1506
02:09:56,960 --> 02:10:02,000
» Yeah.
>> Uh any other discussion?

1507
02:10:00,159 --> 02:10:04,960
» Be none. All those in favor signify by
saying I.

1508
02:10:03,520 --> 02:10:10,639
» Anybody opposed?
>> Motion carries. Next resolution is a

1509
02:10:08,480 --> 02:10:17,639
resolution to prepay EMR, the November
invoice for patient revenue um for 1,00

1510
02:10:13,840 --> 02:10:17,639
or yeah, $1,7514.

1511
02:10:18,719 --> 02:10:21,840
Take it. I'll
>> second.

1512
02:10:19,840 --> 02:10:29,079
» Motion by Mr. Forb, second by Mr.
McDonald. Any discussion?

1513
02:10:24,800 --> 02:10:29,079
» Be none. Roll call vote, please.

1514
02:10:29,280 --> 02:10:34,560
» Yes.
>> Yes.

1515
02:10:33,199 --> 02:10:39,360
» Yes.
>> Yes.

1516
02:10:35,840 --> 02:10:45,520
» Yes. Motion carries.
>> Um,

1517
02:10:42,239 --> 02:10:51,520
I want to bring this up um just now to
your attention. It was one of our

1518
02:10:47,040 --> 02:10:58,239
audited bills. um for the 2026 uh PubW
works which is now GWorks which is

1519
02:10:53,280 --> 02:11:05,840
moving from um it's moving from being
computer-based to being cloud-based. Um

1520
02:11:01,679 --> 02:11:10,960
this invoice was for $2,556
for the yearly license for that program

1521
02:11:08,880 --> 02:11:16,239
there. Uh I am going to be bringing back
to the board as it moves into the cloud.

1522
02:11:14,639 --> 02:11:23,760
Um there is going to be a two-year
commitment. um which is going to um cost

1523
02:11:21,520 --> 02:11:29,280
$10,000 to complete this program over
the next two years. $5,000 a year. So,

1524
02:11:26,239 --> 02:11:33,199
it doubles in price per year. Um this is
just something I want to plant a seed

1525
02:11:30,800 --> 02:11:40,560
with you guys. Um software costs are
starting to um explode. Um I did get a

1526
02:11:38,639 --> 02:11:48,480
uh we went through a software trial
during the summer. Um it was for

1527
02:11:44,960 --> 02:11:53,520
accounting, budgeting, um highway. It
had an interface on our website um so

1528
02:11:51,280 --> 02:11:57,760
that uh people could actually put
requests into the highway department

1529
02:11:54,960 --> 02:12:03,520
from the website. It allowed people to
pay um bills to the town clerk to get

1530
02:12:01,599 --> 02:12:08,560
building permits and pay for them online
and and there was a lot huge amount of

1531
02:12:06,400 --> 02:12:13,599
stuff in the suite. The original cost
was uh $50,000 and that was to uh

1532
02:12:11,920 --> 02:12:20,480
migrate all of our current information
into that system. Um I did talk them

1533
02:12:17,119 --> 02:12:26,960
down to $35,000 and I've been letting
them sit [snorts] and simmer um because

1534
02:12:24,719 --> 02:12:31,199
if they can go from 50 to 35, they can
go lower than that. Um, so I just wanted

1535
02:12:29,840 --> 02:12:36,400
to bring this to your attention that I'm
out there sort of shopping for softwares

1536
02:12:33,440 --> 02:12:45,520
software uh programs um to be able to
provide better and more accurate service

1537
02:12:39,199 --> 02:12:50,480
um to our to our town. Um
oh there was one more thing I wanted to

1538
02:12:48,239 --> 02:12:54,560
bring up. Oh yes, did you?
>> Yeah.

1539
02:12:51,199 --> 02:13:01,440
» Um uh procurement policy. Uh two years
ago, we updated our uh procurement

1540
02:12:58,159 --> 02:13:08,000
policy um just to allow the highway
super um attendant to uh be able to

1541
02:13:05,520 --> 02:13:11,920
purchase things without board approval
um from $1,500

1542
02:13:10,000 --> 02:13:18,079
up to
um $2,500.

1543
02:13:13,920 --> 02:13:25,920
I'm just asking um that today we
actually update uh with a resolution um

1544
02:13:21,679 --> 02:13:31,199
to update the town of J um procurement
policy that those amounts are actually

1545
02:13:28,719 --> 02:13:38,800
put in and not just separated by
highway. Um it allows department heads

1546
02:13:35,599 --> 02:13:43,119
um or authorized purchasers to provide
um within their budget purchases up to

1547
02:13:41,360 --> 02:13:50,639
$2,500.
Um and so on page three you will see

1548
02:13:47,599 --> 02:13:54,560
that amount used to be 0 to $1,500 and
then the second thing was 1,500 to

1549
02:13:53,040 --> 02:14:00,560
5,000.
uh just asking to make through the

1550
02:13:58,560 --> 02:14:10,000
entire
um procurement policy that it's 0 to

1551
02:14:03,119 --> 02:14:16,400
$2,500 251 2500 and 1 cent to 5,000 um
up for um goods and materials,

1552
02:14:13,920 --> 02:14:20,239
professional services, um and public
works contracts.

1553
02:14:18,480 --> 02:14:24,880
Matt I what I did is I made that
ubiquitous throughout the whole of

1554
02:14:22,560 --> 02:14:30,079
sections three four and five which are
pages three four and five that amount 0

1555
02:14:27,599 --> 02:14:36,320
to 1,500 then change 0 to 2500 for
purchase of goods for uh uh public works

1556
02:14:34,079 --> 02:14:43,199
contracts which you really want have to
worry too much or professional services

1557
02:14:39,520 --> 02:14:47,199
so it's the same so part of head or you
be able to make purchases up to $2,500

1558
02:14:45,679 --> 02:14:50,800
of the initial threshold of each each
one of these

1559
02:14:49,199 --> 02:14:54,079
I'll I'll move resolution
>> motion by Mr. McDonald. Can I have a

1560
02:14:53,119 --> 02:14:57,880
second?
>> Mr. Forbes. Discussion.

1561
02:14:58,639 --> 02:15:06,360
» Being none, can I have a roll call vote,
please?

1562
02:15:03,360 --> 02:15:06,360
» Yes.

1563
02:15:07,679 --> 02:15:12,000
» Yes.
>> Yes.

1564
02:15:09,440 --> 02:15:18,320
» Motion carries.
That is all I have for my supervisor's

1565
02:15:14,079 --> 02:15:23,199
report. Um, does anybody have any events
um that are coming up?

1566
02:15:20,400 --> 02:15:29,360
» Uh, our outdoor recreation community
meeting January 22nd, Thursday, 700 p.m.

1567
02:15:27,119 --> 02:15:32,880
here.
>> This is for the work.

1568
02:15:30,800 --> 02:15:35,920
» Uh, this is the parks and open space
committee inviting the community to come

1569
02:15:34,560 --> 02:15:36,880
in and learn about everything we're
working on.

1570
02:15:36,480 --> 02:15:42,239
» Okay.
>> From work to dog park to conference plan

1571
02:15:39,520 --> 02:15:46,320
to volunteer parks and trail day in
April.

1572
02:15:43,280 --> 02:15:51,760
» Perfect. Any other amendments?
Uh, we'll go around and do board

1573
02:15:48,079 --> 02:15:56,239
comments, Mr. Ford. Um, I touched on it
last month about the the U property over

1574
02:15:54,960 --> 02:16:00,719
here where we have our sand pen on
Johansson property. Hadn't had much luck

1575
02:15:59,119 --> 02:16:05,679
in the past month with holidays and
whatnot. I also didn't have all the

1576
02:16:03,199 --> 02:16:08,960
information they wanted. Um, I know
Dan's been busy. he was going to get me

1577
02:16:07,199 --> 02:16:12,320
over the
um

1578
02:16:10,880 --> 02:16:17,360
description of the properties and all
that that their lawyer wanted.

1579
02:16:15,199 --> 02:16:22,320
I'm asking if it would be easier if I
just gave the information to Dan and let

1580
02:16:19,840 --> 02:16:26,480
him do it or do you want me to take
another month and try to but I need more

1581
02:16:24,719 --> 02:16:28,800
information though.
>> Dan, would you like to take that project

1582
02:16:28,159 --> 02:16:32,319
on?
>> Yeah, I told Steve that I was

1583
02:16:30,719 --> 02:16:36,960
» Okay, I'll give you a copy this.
>> I'm okay. and and that you know if we

1584
02:16:35,439 --> 02:16:40,880
did get something like that that's
something you touched on earlier with

1585
02:16:38,399 --> 02:16:44,800
John about expanding the
>> handlet

1586
02:16:42,880 --> 02:16:51,280
property is within that
>> correct and um I know you and I had

1587
02:16:49,280 --> 02:16:53,359
talked about there is some of that
property that sits within the hamlet

1588
02:16:52,960 --> 02:16:57,840
correct
>> um I have reached out to the Essex

1589
02:16:54,800 --> 02:17:03,280
County IDA reached out to the land bank
um pretty much anybody who would listen

1590
02:17:00,639 --> 02:17:12,960
um because it is in the hamlet it would
be a good property to find um some

1591
02:17:09,439 --> 02:17:18,960
investor to come in to build some sort
of housing um to expand because we all

1592
02:17:16,960 --> 02:17:23,519
know the biggest problem that we have
not only within our town but within our

1593
02:17:21,040 --> 02:17:29,760
school district is we are losing
families and by losing families taxes

1594
02:17:27,439 --> 02:17:34,639
are going up. Um we're not be able to
provide the same services at the school.

1595
02:17:31,920 --> 02:17:39,840
So these are opportunities we need to be
looking at to try to expand not only the

1596
02:17:37,679 --> 02:17:43,599
town of Jay but the OA Valley school
district.

1597
02:17:42,319 --> 02:17:49,599
» Other than that, that's all I have.
>> Perfect. Thank you very much, Mr.

1598
02:17:45,679 --> 02:17:55,439
McDonald. U we talked about changing the
polling allowance which we switched to a

1599
02:17:53,439 --> 02:18:00,719
a company, but we don't need to change
anything the personnel policy because we

1600
02:17:57,120 --> 02:18:05,679
never set an amount there. Uh when Adam
and I put this together, so it just

1601
02:18:03,120 --> 02:18:09,519
states that they get a it'll be set at
this meeting here, which we did, which

1602
02:18:07,120 --> 02:18:11,840
is still a 100 bucks. Perfect. So
nothing in the personnel policy needs to

1603
02:18:10,960 --> 02:18:17,519
be changed.
>> Perfect. Uh do speaking of the personnel

1604
02:18:14,639 --> 02:18:22,000
policy or the uh employee handbook, do
we want to look at that this year to

1605
02:18:19,519 --> 02:18:26,160
make sure all the all the resolutions
that we have done thus far since that

1606
02:18:24,080 --> 02:18:30,880
update get put in the book? I believe
it's Olivia and I

1607
02:18:27,920 --> 02:18:33,439
» uh I think it's just you.
>> It was me.

1608
02:18:31,599 --> 02:18:37,920
» Yeah, [laughter]
>> it's you and me. I actually took her

1609
02:18:35,280 --> 02:18:42,960
out. That way that way I can make some
of the calls for you during the day. Um

1610
02:18:40,319 --> 02:18:47,280
and we can work with those companies. Um
I know Carol has taken every single

1611
02:18:45,439 --> 02:18:50,319
resolution we've done. She's got a book
that's got them inserted.

1612
02:18:49,280 --> 02:18:53,439
» So
>> yeah, these guys will just add them and

1613
02:18:52,800 --> 02:18:59,920
make it
>> correct. An updated book. Yep.

1614
02:18:56,000 --> 02:19:03,599
» Perfect. Good. You got anything else?
>> Mr. Sour,

1615
02:19:01,280 --> 02:19:08,319
» uh, couple things. Uh, hopefully quick.
I'm looking at the operating statement

1616
02:19:05,760 --> 02:19:12,800
as of December 31st.
>> Uh, sorry.

1617
02:19:10,160 --> 02:19:22,000
» Talking about Roost. Um, I think they
owe us some money. No, that uh so the

1618
02:19:18,960 --> 02:19:25,840
the operating statement the way Roose's
money works is that money those checks

1619
02:19:24,080 --> 02:19:29,599
come in and it's not Bruce who owes us
the money. Bruce never even actually

1620
02:19:27,519 --> 02:19:34,000
touches the money and everybody refers
to it as Roose's money. It all goes to

1621
02:19:31,840 --> 02:19:37,679
the Essex County Treasures and it's when
the Essex County Treasur feels like he

1622
02:19:35,760 --> 02:19:42,080
has time to be able to pull together all
the reports and send out the checks.

1623
02:19:39,920 --> 02:19:45,519
They're supposed to come out quarterly.
Um

1624
02:19:43,679 --> 02:19:50,800
we got I think the first or second
quarter I think we got the first quarter

1625
02:19:47,599 --> 02:19:57,439
in June or July. Um the second quarter
might have came in September, October.

1626
02:19:53,439 --> 02:20:02,880
Um so that money
the way it shows up on the operating

1627
02:20:00,240 --> 02:20:08,960
statement and the way we now budget it
that money has to be kept separate in a

1628
02:20:06,319 --> 02:20:14,640
fund that is of itself so that you can
track the money. So, what really needs

1629
02:20:11,439 --> 02:20:19,920
to happen is when we budget that, we
should be taking $100,000 or $150,000

1630
02:20:18,000 --> 02:20:24,000
that we budgeted that money out of that
fund, put it in the general fund, which

1631
02:20:22,080 --> 02:20:28,319
offsets everything within the budget.
>> When those checks come in, those checks

1632
02:20:26,240 --> 02:20:32,240
go directly into that account and we
have an accounting of how much money we

1633
02:20:30,319 --> 02:20:35,920
get from them. Um, because we get a
report at the end of the year of how

1634
02:20:33,840 --> 02:20:38,479
much occupancy tax money to us for the
year. So,

1635
02:20:36,640 --> 02:20:41,680
» um, and then we actually need to file a
report with the county with what we've

1636
02:20:40,319 --> 02:20:45,359
spent that money on and how it is
actually accounted for.

1637
02:20:42,640 --> 02:20:48,399
» So, how much did we get last year?
>> Um, one of them mistakenly got put in

1638
02:20:48,080 --> 02:20:50,560
there.
>> Yeah. Okay.

1639
02:20:48,880 --> 02:20:55,359
» The entry was never put in at the
beginning of the year for the $100,000

1640
02:20:52,720 --> 02:20:59,840
taken out of that account and put into
the general fund.

1641
02:20:57,200 --> 02:21:04,880
» So, we got 125.
>> I think we got 150 last year, but I can

1642
02:21:02,960 --> 02:21:10,000
get you that exact amount from the
report. There you go. Uh, which is a

1643
02:21:08,080 --> 02:21:13,359
followup question, but the other issue
now is aim related payments.

1644
02:21:12,000 --> 02:21:16,160
» Now, can I stop you for a second?
>> Yeah.

1645
02:21:13,760 --> 02:21:22,399
» Occupancy tax funds. Now, the new
reports um since Kathy um retired and

1646
02:21:19,600 --> 02:21:26,720
Michelle has taken this over um doing
the supervisor's report in your

1647
02:21:24,399 --> 02:21:31,680
financial statements you get from me,
there is a breakdown of all the accounts

1648
02:21:29,920 --> 02:21:35,200
of how much money is sitting in the
multifund and how much money is sitting

1649
02:21:33,920 --> 02:21:40,720
in New York class.
>> Um and then it adds up how much

1650
02:21:38,080 --> 02:21:44,000
» we have in that fund.
>> So, you can look at that amount there.

1651
02:21:42,640 --> 02:21:46,240
» Yeah. I know, but it doesn't say how
much you actually did get last year.

1652
02:21:45,840 --> 02:21:50,319
That's
>> correct. It has a running running total.

1653
02:21:49,120 --> 02:21:54,080
» Yes, you have.
>> Yep.

1654
02:21:51,920 --> 02:21:58,080
» Uh the second one on the AIM related
payment looks like you got paid double

1655
02:21:55,840 --> 02:22:02,240
last year. Was that because didn't you
didn't get the year before that was late

1656
02:21:59,760 --> 02:22:05,680
or did you get one this year or
>> That's what I would assume. What was

1657
02:22:04,880 --> 02:22:08,479
your question?
>> The aid related.

1658
02:22:07,840 --> 02:22:16,680
Oh, you know,
>> state uh state money. We usually $25,000

1659
02:22:12,160 --> 02:22:16,680
a year. We got 650 last year.

1660
02:22:17,600 --> 02:22:24,720
» That payment probably came late last
year, so it got put into this year's. I

1661
02:22:21,920 --> 02:22:30,000
will double check that for you.
>> Okay.

1662
02:22:26,880 --> 02:22:35,920
» Um and then just quickly, I know that
Upper J talking about Roose

1663
02:22:33,200 --> 02:22:40,800
talking about occupancy tax money. I
know APJ Arts Center and I think Liby

1664
02:22:39,040 --> 02:22:44,640
mentioned it. Did you mention it last
month? But

1665
02:22:42,000 --> 02:22:51,520
» yeah, they Yeah. No, I was just gonna
say I know that they are um severely

1666
02:22:48,640 --> 02:22:59,840
financially strapped and they probably
sending a proposal. This is a heads up

1667
02:22:54,479 --> 02:23:03,280
um you know for maybe some kind of
call it.

1668
02:23:00,479 --> 02:23:07,040
» So I will I will expand upon that.
>> Okay.

1669
02:23:03,680 --> 02:23:13,760
» They invited me. I had a meeting um and
I explained to them um we can definitely

1670
02:23:11,200 --> 02:23:22,160
pay for services that they provide to
the community. Um so um like we we

1671
02:23:18,960 --> 02:23:29,280
agreed today uh to $7,500 that goes to
GEMS. That $7,500 is for the uh 10

1672
02:23:27,359 --> 02:23:36,640
summer concert series and the
administration of that concert series.

1673
02:23:32,479 --> 02:23:42,640
Um, so I had recommended to them, is
there something you guys do that can be

1674
02:23:39,040 --> 02:23:47,600
a free admission to um, Town of J
residents um, that they can go to a

1675
02:23:45,520 --> 02:23:52,960
production there, see what it's like.
They may actually get something out of

1676
02:23:49,439 --> 02:23:59,520
that by finding new investors. They may
uh, be able to do 5050 sell like I know

1677
02:23:56,960 --> 02:24:05,280
gems at the concerts. they will they
will sell for donation food or I think

1678
02:24:02,800 --> 02:24:11,520
they do a 50/50. Um so those types of
things I feel in having gone to um the

1679
02:24:09,520 --> 02:24:14,960
upper J Art Center I think people need
to get through the door and understand

1680
02:24:13,840 --> 02:24:18,560
it's a hidden gem.
>> Oh it is

1681
02:24:15,760 --> 02:24:23,120
» um and I I feel there's a lot of people
in our town in our surrounding

1682
02:24:20,240 --> 02:24:30,720
communities that don't know that. Um, so
we can create um a service from the

1683
02:24:26,399 --> 02:24:35,840
upper J Art Center offering um open
houses that we maybe they can utilize

1684
02:24:33,359 --> 02:24:41,920
those funds to pay for a band. They can
put on a show or any of those types of

1685
02:24:38,399 --> 02:24:46,720
things. And once again, as uh Miss Dwire
um had actually pointed out, those are

1686
02:24:43,920 --> 02:24:53,200
uses for those occupancy tax funds um to
help encourage growth within the arts um

1687
02:24:50,880 --> 02:24:58,880
within programs that happen within the
town. Um so you are correct. They are

1688
02:24:56,080 --> 02:25:02,560
supposed to bring to the board. Um and I
have invited them if they would like to

1689
02:25:00,479 --> 02:25:10,640
present to the board um to be able to do
that so that we can see how and what

1690
02:25:05,600 --> 02:25:16,160
service the town um really really does
like to see or want to see. Um one of

1691
02:25:12,880 --> 02:25:20,080
the things I sort of I mean I just threw
out there we have the summer concert

1692
02:25:18,080 --> 02:25:24,880
series at the J Village Green on
Saturdays. You have the Saturday

1693
02:25:22,560 --> 02:25:32,720
concerts or the Thursday night concerts
in Wilmington. um as we start to build

1694
02:25:29,760 --> 02:25:36,800
out the Upper J parking area and I mean
I could see that place being a great

1695
02:25:35,040 --> 02:25:43,040
place for Upper Jay to sort of
congregate. Um maybe there's a concert

1696
02:25:39,359 --> 02:25:47,280
series or there's more of an event um
mini shows that happen during the year

1697
02:25:44,800 --> 02:25:54,640
there. Um those are things that I think
we as a board should be helping promote

1698
02:25:50,800 --> 02:26:00,399
um and encourage um within our town.
Agreed. So,

1699
02:25:57,200 --> 02:26:07,200
» uh, one more thing. So, short-term
rentals is becoming a really, um,

1700
02:26:05,680 --> 02:26:13,600
big issue. [clears throat] Um, you know,
a lot more people speaking up, you know,

1701
02:26:09,760 --> 02:26:18,319
against the town. Um what is you know
maybe Manning attorney Manning or you

1702
02:26:15,760 --> 02:26:22,240
can tell [snorts] us what was the my
understanding was that the state law

1703
02:26:19,920 --> 02:26:27,439
that the county had until the end of the
year to opt out of the state law or

1704
02:26:25,359 --> 02:26:31,840
something. So where are we at or where's
the county act? Um

1705
02:26:29,520 --> 02:26:35,200
» so you if you don't opt out you're in.
>> Yeah.

1706
02:26:32,319 --> 02:26:41,760
» Uh we already have a a hotel motel
occupancy tax law which uh covers

1707
02:26:39,200 --> 02:26:46,080
everything basically. And I revised it
years ago to include I I didn't know

1708
02:26:43,760 --> 02:26:53,359
they were called SDR, but uh by
definition includes that. Um we that law

1709
02:26:50,640 --> 02:26:58,960
at the county level. It is going to
expire in April. Um I was going to amend

1710
02:26:56,479 --> 02:27:04,080
that law to just as a belt suspenders
put in the states. Well, I have I

1711
02:27:01,120 --> 02:27:09,040
actually dictated on put in the states
language as to what SDR is to include it

1712
02:27:07,120 --> 02:27:13,600
just as suspenders although I don't need
it. Uh and there was some other changes

1713
02:27:10,720 --> 02:27:18,960
I made mimicking the states law also put
in a u sort of belt suspenders clause at

1714
02:27:16,800 --> 02:27:22,479
the end of our law that says you know
all terms and conditions of the existing

1715
02:27:20,560 --> 02:27:26,080
state law such and such a chapter law
blah blah blah uh not here not

1716
02:27:24,880 --> 02:27:32,160
consistent with this law here why
incorporated into this law so they write

1717
02:27:28,399 --> 02:27:36,640
whole damn state law and our law um and
so we're in the process of doing that um

1718
02:27:34,880 --> 02:27:42,960
I've kind of held off I've spoken to
other counties what they're doing and

1719
02:27:38,800 --> 02:27:48,640
I've also spoken to Airbnb and the RBO.
Um, you know, they're actually going to

1720
02:27:45,439 --> 02:27:54,160
have to right now they're putting up a
little bit of a, you know, they're

1721
02:27:51,840 --> 02:28:00,240
resistance to providing us with exact
names of people and you know where it's

1722
02:27:58,080 --> 02:28:03,439
crazy because the state law said they
say, "Oh, that's unconstitutional

1723
02:28:01,920 --> 02:28:07,600
violation of the 14th amendment." I'm
like rolling my eyeballs on the phone.

1724
02:28:06,080 --> 02:28:11,200
You know, okay, fine. Right out with the
state. the state has passed this

1725
02:28:08,960 --> 02:28:16,800
statute. It is law. So, we're getting
there. Um, we're not opting out. Um, you

1726
02:28:15,600 --> 02:28:20,720
know, there's debate as to whether they
should opt out, stay in. Some some

1727
02:28:18,960 --> 02:28:25,280
counties are not. They're opting out.
They're saying, "What what is your good

1728
02:28:22,319 --> 02:28:29,680
to us?" You know, u, but there I think
it's better to opt in because these

1729
02:28:28,240 --> 02:28:32,880
short-term rental people have to pay
their sales tax to the state. That's all

1730
02:28:31,520 --> 02:28:36,399
monitored. So, the state's going to get
that information and we strengthen

1731
02:28:34,880 --> 02:28:40,880
numbers. if there's if they're still
walking and giving us names of people

1732
02:28:38,880 --> 02:28:47,600
this they must be giving it to the state
so they'll be so anyway it's better to

1733
02:28:43,280 --> 02:28:52,720
op not opt in stay in opt out uh so
we're around that thing um I think they

1734
02:28:49,920 --> 02:28:58,319
extended the time it was the end of
December to opt out but I think they

1735
02:28:54,240 --> 02:29:02,240
extended that time to next year but
there's not it's doesn't matter to us

1736
02:29:00,880 --> 02:29:09,920
» and the Essex County Board of
Supervisors also um agreed to enter into

1737
02:29:06,560 --> 02:29:18,000
an agreement with Decker um
>> Decker Industries, which is a company

1738
02:29:12,560 --> 02:29:22,080
that monitors um reser or uh
>> it monitors short-term rentals. Yeah. So

1739
02:29:20,000 --> 02:29:27,359
that the county when the county is
starting to do enforcement of the county

1740
02:29:25,520 --> 02:29:32,560
local law,
they will know who is not registered,

1741
02:29:30,880 --> 02:29:37,520
which the New York state law says they
need to be registered with the local um

1742
02:29:35,359 --> 02:29:39,600
authority that has a registry, which is
the county,

1743
02:29:38,080 --> 02:29:43,200
» right? And if they don't comply with the
state law where they're barking at

1744
02:29:40,800 --> 02:29:48,720
certain little things in the state law
and in our what I put in our a lot is

1745
02:29:46,319 --> 02:29:51,680
then you don't get permits. your people
don't get permits. I won't look to the

1746
02:29:50,479 --> 02:29:55,359
to those bigger companies.
>> So,

1747
02:29:52,080 --> 02:30:00,560
» and technically Airbnb VRBO as part of
that law, they are not supposed to be

1748
02:29:57,200 --> 02:30:04,000
renting any short-term rental um through
their platform that is not registered on

1749
02:30:03,040 --> 02:30:07,840
the local authority.
>> Right. So there there are some

1750
02:30:06,080 --> 02:30:10,640
» so in terms of regulations it would be
good we don't have to go through it

1751
02:30:08,880 --> 02:30:15,840
today interest of time but it would be
good to get like a summary sheet of

1752
02:30:12,479 --> 02:30:20,960
exactly what does this state law
obligate

1753
02:30:17,920 --> 02:30:28,319
or require regulate in terms of
short-term rentals? Does it regulate

1754
02:30:25,040 --> 02:30:32,800
you know registry and you know having
somebody within a caretaker within an

1755
02:30:30,960 --> 02:30:35,200
hour's drive? Yeah. No,
>> you know what?

1756
02:30:33,520 --> 02:30:39,280
» This is just what they have right now.
It's just a registry law. So, it doesn't

1757
02:30:37,520 --> 02:30:44,160
have anything that about three things I
think they have, which uh I'm counseling

1758
02:30:41,520 --> 02:30:49,120
the county to get invol to have one is
what everybody's got to have a exit map

1759
02:30:47,120 --> 02:30:53,280
on their place. Another is you got to
have fire extinguishers. Another one is

1760
02:30:50,640 --> 02:30:55,680
you got to have insurance. And I might
be

1761
02:30:53,760 --> 02:30:58,080
» and you have to self-certify that you
are code compliant.

1762
02:30:56,640 --> 02:31:02,319
» That's what I want to do for the county
because I don't want to be

1763
02:30:59,439 --> 02:31:08,240
» the state law says that. uh that you
have supervisor. Okay. Well, I I don't

1764
02:31:05,040 --> 02:31:12,399
want to be
my point I explained to the supervisor

1765
02:31:10,720 --> 02:31:16,960
is that we're not getting involved in
going out and you got your fire

1766
02:31:14,800 --> 02:31:20,160
extinguisher because it's not we don't
want to get involved in that. It's a

1767
02:31:18,240 --> 02:31:23,840
registry. I don't know why they flew in
three or four little silly they're not

1768
02:31:22,000 --> 02:31:30,399
silly. They're important. Insurance is
important. Safety is important. An exit

1769
02:31:27,920 --> 02:31:34,040
is not important because it'll be dark
and it's

1770
02:31:34,240 --> 02:31:37,760
the hell out.
>> You could exit the first window.

1771
02:31:36,319 --> 02:31:40,319
» That's right. That's right.
>> Oh, wait a minute. Let me check the map.

1772
02:31:39,760 --> 02:31:43,920
» Yeah,
>> you got to go that way. [laughter]

1773
02:31:42,160 --> 02:31:48,560
» Well, I would say I mean two of us.
>> So, there are no there are no real

1774
02:31:45,439 --> 02:31:55,920
regulars. two of us at a forum before
the election uh were in favor of some

1775
02:31:51,520 --> 02:32:00,960
sort of you know town regulation um
supporters of myself who said Republic

1776
02:31:58,720 --> 02:32:06,080
and said we were in favor of some sort
of regulation safety regulations and so

1777
02:32:03,040 --> 02:32:11,920
forth. So I'd like to make good
personally on my commitment I made which

1778
02:32:09,200 --> 02:32:18,000
I've stated before too that you know I
don't know how we have a committee and

1779
02:32:14,240 --> 02:32:22,960
you know we all maybe the town committee
um you know residents or business owners

1780
02:32:21,520 --> 02:32:30,000
for the rental owners should be part of
it but uh at some point I mean this year

1781
02:32:26,240 --> 02:32:35,040
I think it's it's getting
pretty tough out there in terms of you

1782
02:32:32,399 --> 02:32:39,920
know it's becoming an issue in town and
uh a divisive issue we don't want to get

1783
02:32:37,600 --> 02:32:43,520
to the point where it's
overly divisive either so

1784
02:32:41,600 --> 02:32:47,359
» so it sounds like you would like us to
make a short-term rental task force And

1785
02:32:45,920 --> 02:32:50,560
it sounds like you were volunteering to
be the chair.

1786
02:32:48,399 --> 02:32:55,200
» Not volunteering to be the chair, but I
that's why I'm careful with what I'm

1787
02:32:52,240 --> 02:33:00,800
saying that I think, you know, maybe
it's a community task force. Obviously,

1788
02:32:57,760 --> 02:33:03,359
we have mediation with it. But
yeah,

1789
02:33:01,200 --> 02:33:07,040
» I definitely think if we're going to be
looking and making recommendations to

1790
02:33:05,040 --> 02:33:09,760
this board, um there should be somebody
from this board on that task force as

1791
02:33:09,280 --> 02:33:14,720
the chair
>> who wants to retire early.

1792
02:33:13,686 --> 02:33:19,120
» [laughter]
>> So, I'm just going to put that out

1793
02:33:16,479 --> 02:33:23,120
there. Anybody who who would like to be
>> as that that chair, I think it's a good

1794
02:33:21,600 --> 02:33:27,200
conversation to have, but I also think
that Tyler needs to have people who are

1795
02:33:25,760 --> 02:33:31,040
both sides of the issue.
>> I think that conference special board

1796
02:33:29,200 --> 02:33:36,240
has functioned really well with Wall-E
as a chair and he's not a board member.

1797
02:33:34,080 --> 02:33:42,080
» So, I think there's possibility that a
qualified volunteer could um chair that

1798
02:33:39,439 --> 02:33:45,760
task force and do a really nice job. Uh,
I'm curious, you know, short-term

1799
02:33:43,520 --> 02:33:50,640
rentals are businesses. Are there any
members of ARPA that are short-term

1800
02:33:47,920 --> 02:33:55,760
rental
of them there? And and I I know quite a

1801
02:33:53,120 --> 02:34:01,680
few short-term rental. I know a lot of
people on the acres property owner

1802
02:33:57,680 --> 02:34:06,880
associations that are really um pushing
for regulation. I'm not one of them as I

1803
02:34:03,920 --> 02:34:11,040
mean not to that extent. Um, but you
know, there's there's it's becoming a

1804
02:34:08,800 --> 02:34:15,040
divisive issue and uh I would
absolutely, you know, we need to have

1805
02:34:12,880 --> 02:34:18,800
Main Street businesses on there because
they benefit from it. We need to have

1806
02:34:16,960 --> 02:34:24,800
short-term rental owners on on the task
force and uh I think the town board

1807
02:34:21,359 --> 02:34:28,800
should identify and seek out, you know,
or solicit but make a decision on who

1808
02:34:27,600 --> 02:34:34,080
goes on it. They don't want to leave it
to the task force themselves to uh

1809
02:34:32,080 --> 02:34:36,720
» a lot of these people just plain don't
want that.

1810
02:34:35,359 --> 02:34:40,319
» Yeah. You know
>> those are the ones

1811
02:34:38,560 --> 02:34:42,560
and sometimes it's the homeowner that's
the problem.

1812
02:34:40,720 --> 02:34:44,800
» It's not about regulations. They don't
care about regulations. PL don't want

1813
02:34:44,560 --> 02:34:49,359
that.
>> Well, and those are the people that are

1814
02:34:47,920 --> 02:34:54,080
there [clears throat] are there are some
opponents that

1815
02:34:52,160 --> 02:34:58,319
with any, you know, you got some bad
short-term rental hosts, but you also

1816
02:34:55,920 --> 02:35:02,000
got some homeowners that are the problem
of the short-term rental host. I I

1817
02:34:59,920 --> 02:35:07,680
agree. And that's why we need, you know,
>> so what I would recommend um so we don't

1818
02:35:04,880 --> 02:35:12,399
sit and debate this all night here. Um,
I would like at least one person to come

1819
02:35:09,680 --> 02:35:17,280
back with a good idea of how we want to
structure a short-term rental task

1820
02:35:14,399 --> 02:35:24,560
force. Um, then we can put out for
volunteers. If nobody here wants to be

1821
02:35:19,840 --> 02:35:28,560
that chair, maybe we can, um, look for a
champion who does want to. And I think

1822
02:35:26,800 --> 02:35:32,720
that person who would be the chair of
that board would be somebody who is

1823
02:35:30,479 --> 02:35:37,680
neither for nor against. Um, that way
they're very impartial to the subject.

1824
02:35:34,640 --> 02:35:41,120
Um, so think good over this this month
and uh let's bring it back up. I'll

1825
02:35:39,680 --> 02:35:43,920
actually put it on my supervisor's
report so it can be a topic of

1826
02:35:43,120 --> 02:35:46,240
discussion.
>> Thank you.

1827
02:35:45,520 --> 02:35:49,520
» Anything else, sir?
>> And I'm done.

1828
02:35:48,800 --> 02:35:53,280
» Wow,
>> that was short.

1829
02:35:50,800 --> 02:35:55,439
» If I could give you pneumonia
pneumonia, you wouldn't talk so long.

1830
02:35:54,560 --> 02:36:00,880
» You're right. You did.
>> Miss Dwire.

1831
02:35:56,720 --> 02:36:04,520
» Um, happy new year. looking forward to a
productive 2026.

1832
02:36:06,160 --> 02:36:12,720
» Wow.
>> She is. I was a little [laughter]

1833
02:36:11,040 --> 02:36:17,040
» forgot everything.
>> All right. Um,

1834
02:36:16,319 --> 02:36:21,359
one thing,
>> Mr. uh, I don't want to sound like a

1835
02:36:19,200 --> 02:36:25,680
church lady, but you guys all now have a
copy of the procurement policy. So,

1836
02:36:23,200 --> 02:36:30,319
bring it to you every day. Make sure
Chris gets one, too, so that we And I

1837
02:36:28,240 --> 02:36:34,080
know I I know you know what's going on,
but it's good to have just in case.

1838
02:36:32,720 --> 02:36:38,160
» Email to us as well.
>> Yes, I can because to be honest with

1839
02:36:36,000 --> 02:36:43,560
you, every time I go to look for it,
>> I email it to you for the meeting.

1840
02:36:46,563 --> 02:36:55,880
[laughter]
>> Perfect. Uh, any more audience comments?

1841
02:36:51,840 --> 02:36:55,880
» Yep. Come right on up, sir.

1842
02:36:56,640 --> 02:37:03,000
you were talking about or whatever about
the range.

1843
02:37:03,280 --> 02:37:10,640
It's not just the noise that I'd be
worried about. I'd be worried about what

1844
02:37:07,760 --> 02:37:17,160
type of rounds being sent down range.
There are explosive ones, non-exlosive,

1845
02:37:14,160 --> 02:37:17,160
radioactive,

1846
02:37:17,200 --> 02:37:25,520
armoring. And the other thing is who's
going to clean up the mess? I've lived

1847
02:37:22,000 --> 02:37:32,319
in two areas, not where they had it, but
it ended up affecting people further

1848
02:37:29,439 --> 02:37:37,359
away because of ground contamination and
then they ended up

1849
02:37:34,560 --> 02:37:42,720
having the taxpayers have to clean up
the mess. Who's going to remove it?

1850
02:37:41,040 --> 02:37:46,399
And who's going to clean it up if it
don't explode?

1851
02:37:45,760 --> 02:37:50,520
» Thank you.
>> Thank you. Thank you very much.

1852
02:37:57,680 --> 02:38:06,479
Um, okay. So, I have some questions.
You're talking about the short-term

1853
02:38:02,720 --> 02:38:12,200
rentals and um since they are a
business, do they have to have a New

1854
02:38:08,720 --> 02:38:12,200
York State inspection?

1855
02:38:12,960 --> 02:38:21,040
You know, like for safety, do they have
the fire um extinguishers and all that?

1856
02:38:18,479 --> 02:38:28,479
Are they on the coal and whatever? Do
are they required to have those?

1857
02:38:25,439 --> 02:38:33,840
Because I actually have cleaned children
rentals and there's nothing posted in

1858
02:38:31,120 --> 02:38:41,920
there. There's nothing. No inspection,
no New York State anything,

1859
02:38:37,359 --> 02:38:51,760
no fire exits, nothing. So that's just
one of my questions. Um, another one,

1860
02:38:46,160 --> 02:38:57,600
the EV station in um, upper J or in J. I
was here for the town hall meeting with

1861
02:38:53,600 --> 02:39:03,359
Michael Cashman and he said going
electric in the north country is a total

1862
02:39:00,640 --> 02:39:09,359
waste. So why do we have to have a
charging station?

1863
02:39:06,240 --> 02:39:15,359
Nobody stops and spends the night in
Upper J. They want to go to Lake Placid,

1864
02:39:12,399 --> 02:39:19,840
you know. I I mean even motel in Upper J
is closed

1865
02:39:17,120 --> 02:39:25,439
so there's no place to stay in Upper J.
>> Did he specifically say total waste or

1866
02:39:23,680 --> 02:39:29,120
was that your interpretation? Was those
the words you used?

1867
02:39:27,840 --> 02:39:30,720
» Total waste.
>> You said

1868
02:39:29,920 --> 02:39:35,120
» I said
>> you said that Mr. Cashman said

1869
02:39:32,560 --> 02:39:40,240
» Mr. Cashman did say that. He said to go
electric here in the north country would

1870
02:39:37,439 --> 02:39:43,680
be a total waste. That's exactly what he
>> had EV chargers with him and

1871
02:39:41,760 --> 02:39:47,280
electrification in terms of the
buildings.

1872
02:39:45,120 --> 02:39:53,359
» No, he was talking about electric
vehicles. So it total if electric

1873
02:39:50,160 --> 02:39:58,720
vehicles are a total waste up here
then why would you want an electric be a

1874
02:39:55,920 --> 02:40:02,399
little charging?
>> Well, if if that's what he said, which I

1875
02:40:00,880 --> 02:40:07,920
I don't necessarily
>> ask Mr. Stanley. He was there.

1876
02:40:04,479 --> 02:40:13,200
» I would totally disagree with him.
Well, another thing I was brought up was

1877
02:40:10,560 --> 02:40:20,000
electric buses. And he said it would be
difficult for our bus to get to Shay and

1878
02:40:17,040 --> 02:40:25,439
back home without it being charged. He
said electric buses are not something

1879
02:40:22,960 --> 02:40:29,600
you can look at for around here in the
north country. It's just not feasible.

1880
02:40:27,680 --> 02:40:37,040
» Agree 100%.
Just like the the the ban on on gas

1881
02:40:33,040 --> 02:40:44,319
stoves and so forth which was repealed.
I agree both both that and and that the

1882
02:40:40,800 --> 02:40:52,800
you know the ban of you know whatever uh
fossil fuel burning heat and um cooking

1883
02:40:49,600 --> 02:40:56,399
that was repealed and those were stupid.
>> Yes, they were

1884
02:40:53,680 --> 02:41:00,960
» completely stupid. completely because
she doesn't know anything about what

1885
02:40:58,080 --> 02:41:05,359
she's talking about above all. So
everything is in New York City. And

1886
02:41:02,479 --> 02:41:12,399
that's exactly what he said was New York
City could benefit from going total

1887
02:41:08,800 --> 02:41:18,080
electric vehicle over any other place in
New York State because there are so many

1888
02:41:15,200 --> 02:41:23,040
people, so many vehicles and they only
do hop skip and jump. They I don't they

1889
02:41:20,960 --> 02:41:27,520
don't travel 30 miles to Platsburg or
anything like that and then have to

1890
02:41:24,560 --> 02:41:31,920
charge a vehicle. They could, you know,
just roll around the corner and they've

1891
02:41:29,760 --> 02:41:37,680
got everything they need. The other
question I have is um where you want to

1892
02:41:34,960 --> 02:41:43,280
put that EV station in Upper J that is
considered a flood zone. And the reason

1893
02:41:40,319 --> 02:41:49,120
I know is because my house used to sit
where you have that park and I was

1894
02:41:46,319 --> 02:41:53,280
bought out by the federal government
to move to be out of the flood zone. So

1895
02:41:52,399 --> 02:41:59,680
why would you put
>> it's an elevated spot and it's that the

1896
02:41:56,319 --> 02:42:05,920
EV charger head is going to be
approximately on top of that four or

1897
02:42:02,240 --> 02:42:09,359
five feet four feet above the ground.
There's nothing wrong with having

1898
02:42:07,120 --> 02:42:14,240
electric wires. electric wires in pools.
There's electric wires in rivers, in the

1899
02:42:11,120 --> 02:42:18,880
ocean. The you have ingground electric
wires. So the electric wire is not an

1900
02:42:16,560 --> 02:42:23,920
issue. The head of the charger is about
4 feet over that on this spot there,

1901
02:42:22,080 --> 02:42:29,439
which is an elevated spot, well above
the flood level.

1902
02:42:25,680 --> 02:42:36,160
» Okay. So I was flooded out twice in that
area. The first time the ice went

1903
02:42:33,439 --> 02:42:40,960
through, totally wiped out the walls in
our mobile home. just wiped them right

1904
02:42:38,000 --> 02:42:47,200
out. The second time we were flooded, we
had over 4 ft of water, just water

1905
02:42:44,640 --> 02:42:51,680
inside the mobile home.
And and you're telling me that that's

1906
02:42:49,520 --> 02:42:57,319
» your your objections your objections
have been registered. We disagree. Thank

1907
02:42:54,319 --> 02:42:57,319
you.

1908
02:42:57,439 --> 02:43:04,960
» Okay. Um
I would like to comment on this

1909
02:43:01,280 --> 02:43:08,880
gentleman's concern about Lewis.
Um,

1910
02:43:06,720 --> 02:43:14,479
Councilman Duer, you seem to be more
concerned about the noise than anything

1911
02:43:11,920 --> 02:43:20,160
else. And and he brought up several
things that were much more important

1912
02:43:17,520 --> 02:43:25,280
than noise level because like you said,
there's so much noise here in town,

1913
02:43:23,280 --> 02:43:29,920
but we don't tell people, well, you
know, you got to slow down. You have to

1914
02:43:26,800 --> 02:43:35,520
do this or that. But anyway, I was
concerned that um you were more

1915
02:43:32,800 --> 02:43:42,560
concerned over noise than anything else.
Um the other thing I wanted to know is

1916
02:43:39,280 --> 02:43:48,080
what is to become the Hollywood Theater?
I mean, they I don't know what they've

1917
02:43:44,960 --> 02:43:53,600
done to it. I heard it was gutted. I I
don't know because that's a business on

1918
02:43:50,640 --> 02:43:56,640
Main Street and it could be utilized
>> privately owned. Nothing to do with us.

1919
02:43:55,279 --> 02:44:02,560
privately owned. They spent a lot of
money. They gutted it and they put um

1920
02:43:58,960 --> 02:44:06,240
inflation in there and part of the drag
show was a fundraiser so they can spend

1921
02:44:04,720 --> 02:44:10,800
more money because they need to raise
money to get that business open.

1922
02:44:09,040 --> 02:44:14,960
» And what would that business be? Do you
know

1923
02:44:12,240 --> 02:44:18,240
» theater or kind of a community
>> performing arts

1924
02:44:15,680 --> 02:44:26,640
» performing arts center?
Um so the microenterprise grant is that

1925
02:44:23,279 --> 02:44:31,120
um can the business use that for payroll
if they're creating a job within their

1926
02:44:29,680 --> 02:44:33,920
business?
>> Yes, they can. Yep.

1927
02:44:32,319 --> 02:44:37,600
» For a low to moderate income job that
they are creating with the use of the

1928
02:44:36,560 --> 02:44:43,920
grant.
>> Okay. Um I have been to the Upper J Art

1929
02:44:40,399 --> 02:44:48,240
Center. It is a wonderful place. Um they
also have a liquor license. I don't know

1930
02:44:45,520 --> 02:44:52,319
if anybody knows that, but that might be
something that

1931
02:44:50,240 --> 02:44:57,200
I don't know. Bars draw people. I'm not
a bar person, but they do draw people.

1932
02:44:54,880 --> 02:45:02,960
And I went to a play that they had over
at the Methodist church there in Upper

1933
02:44:59,680 --> 02:45:07,120
J. There was absolutely wonderful. So, I
I have been to a couple of their shows

1934
02:45:04,800 --> 02:45:12,319
and I I would defin I have supported
them. I will say that. Um, I would like

1935
02:45:10,160 --> 02:45:18,640
to know what the cost was for the solar
panel on the town of the town of Jake

1936
02:45:15,680 --> 02:45:22,560
Garage or wherever it is.
And it only generates enough energy for

1937
02:45:21,200 --> 02:45:29,600
one light bulb.
>> That's one specific one specific day.

1938
02:45:26,399 --> 02:45:34,960
Uh, in December, January, February, the
solar production is very low obviously

1939
02:45:32,960 --> 02:45:42,160
because of the shorter days and the snow
potential on the solar panels. Um but uh

1940
02:45:39,200 --> 02:45:48,080
on average um if it meets the if it if
it you know like others it's going to

1941
02:45:45,120 --> 02:45:55,680
generate about between 65,000 65 and
70,000 kilowatt hours uh saving the town

1942
02:45:52,240 --> 02:46:01,439
at the today's electricity rate u
potentially between 15 and $20,000 a

1943
02:45:58,319 --> 02:46:07,279
year. The cost to the town was about
$45,000 net somewhere on that number.

1944
02:46:04,720 --> 02:46:13,359
So, we expect we expect to break even
within three years. And then we have and

1945
02:46:09,680 --> 02:46:18,720
it's 25 year 30-year warranty that we're
going to be benefiting the taxpayers of

1946
02:46:15,840 --> 02:46:23,600
the town of Jade are are going to be
saving about $150,000

1947
02:46:21,520 --> 02:46:29,120
over the life of that system.
>> Okay. So, I I actually asked someone

1948
02:46:25,600 --> 02:46:36,000
that has solar panels, and I mean they
have solar panels, and they're very

1949
02:46:34,319 --> 02:46:40,240
coste effective people. Let's put it
that way. They want to know where the

1950
02:46:38,240 --> 02:46:45,920
money's going. And I So, I asked them
about their solar panels, and on

1951
02:46:42,800 --> 02:46:50,080
average, it takes 10 years for so solar
panel to pay for itself.

1952
02:46:47,760 --> 02:46:54,399
» On average, without the grants, we got
grants. The cost of the system was of

1953
02:46:52,319 --> 02:46:59,120
$165,000.
The town of Jay's out of pocket cost was

1954
02:46:57,279 --> 02:47:03,120
roughly 45. Don't quote me on the spec
exact numbers. They're available if you

1955
02:47:00,960 --> 02:47:09,439
want to do request it from the town
office. You can do that. Uh but based on

1956
02:47:05,760 --> 02:47:14,160
that exactly the 10 year break even and
we pay a third of typical cost. So about

1957
02:47:12,560 --> 02:47:16,960
three year break even
>> plus the size of this panel make more

1958
02:47:16,160 --> 02:47:22,399
electricity.
>> Yes. So, talking about properties that

1959
02:47:19,600 --> 02:47:28,319
are in disarray, um there's a property
over here on the corner by the bridge. I

1960
02:47:24,399 --> 02:47:32,240
believe it was owned by John Patnau, and
I'm pretty sure it's condemned. I have

1961
02:47:30,479 --> 02:47:36,319
not gone up to the window and looked at
what's written on the papers or typed.

1962
02:47:34,640 --> 02:47:43,600
And then, of course, the one that's on
the corner of Forge and Church Lane that

1963
02:47:39,520 --> 02:47:48,800
John Patnau also owned at one time. Um,
I was just wondering if maybe those are

1964
02:47:45,600 --> 02:47:53,279
properties that the Essex County Land
Bank might be interested in. It's you

1965
02:47:51,760 --> 02:47:55,920
got to demolish them. There's there's
just

1966
02:47:53,680 --> 02:48:01,760
» wondering if they get on a tax sale most
likely. But I will say that place over

1967
02:47:58,640 --> 02:48:06,319
here next to TOPS has been purchased.
They came in, got a building permit to

1968
02:48:04,399 --> 02:48:10,680
uh remove the garage, and I believe
they're going to start work on the

1969
02:48:07,680 --> 02:48:10,680
house.

1970
02:48:12,479 --> 02:48:21,120
Okay. Um,
>> New York City trip.

1971
02:48:17,680 --> 02:48:26,399
I don't know why four people have to go,
but then I'm questioning what Mr.

1972
02:48:23,439 --> 02:48:32,160
McDonald brought up. I think it was you.
Why do you need so many people to go?

1973
02:48:29,040 --> 02:48:37,120
And if you you didn't bring it up. Okay.
I'm sorry. Um, so whomever brought it

1974
02:48:35,439 --> 02:48:41,279
up.
How many rooms? And I want to thank you

1975
02:48:39,520 --> 02:48:45,200
for paying for your own room. I really
do. Thank you very much.

1976
02:48:42,640 --> 02:48:50,399
» We split it with room to
>> So, um, do you share a room or does

1977
02:48:48,319 --> 02:48:54,160
everybody have their own individual? I
mean, Michelle would have to have their

1978
02:48:52,000 --> 02:48:57,920
own room, of course. But I mean, did two
guys share a room? I mean, you can get

1979
02:48:56,399 --> 02:49:01,840
two beds.
>> I stayed in Wilmington's room with my

1980
02:48:59,680 --> 02:49:07,760
wife last time.
This time, on the reciprocating end,

1981
02:49:05,200 --> 02:49:11,760
she's going to be staying in my room. So
they reap the benefit of not paying for

1982
02:49:10,479 --> 02:49:15,160
him this year.
>> And to clarifying

1983
02:49:17,200 --> 02:49:22,160
her
>> and Tina Tina did that as well with

1984
02:49:19,680 --> 02:49:27,520
Wilmington
spot. So both towns are paying full.

1985
02:49:25,520 --> 02:49:32,120
» Well, I appreciate that because
>> we should all get a spous neighboring

1986
02:49:29,120 --> 02:49:32,120
town.

1987
02:49:33,760 --> 02:49:40,080
» Okay. Um, I
>> Oh, you took a lot of notes tonight.

1988
02:49:38,000 --> 02:49:44,720
» Yes, I did. Um,
>> I wanted to become more involved and the

1989
02:49:43,040 --> 02:49:48,399
only way to do that is to take notes and
to ask questions.

1990
02:49:46,720 --> 02:49:53,200
» You said something about the New York
State retirement. They said they um you

1991
02:49:51,279 --> 02:49:58,479
didn't they didn't receive the check
until after the date. But if you're a

1992
02:49:56,399 --> 02:50:03,120
business in New York State and even the
federal government, they go by the

1993
02:50:00,720 --> 02:50:07,200
postmark. And I know that because I used
to work for the post office and there

1994
02:50:05,680 --> 02:50:10,640
were certain people in Upper J that
would come in and say, "I have to have

1995
02:50:08,720 --> 02:50:15,040
this postmarked today. It's my quarterly
income tax. Make sure it gets

1996
02:50:12,479 --> 02:50:19,040
postmarked." So why wouldn't they
recognize that postmark? The

1997
02:50:16,880 --> 02:50:23,200
» problem that is things aren't postmarked
in your town anymore.

1998
02:50:22,240 --> 02:50:28,080
» No,
>> they go to Connecticut. They've changed

1999
02:50:25,520 --> 02:50:31,040
a lot. The post United States Post
Office has sent out a communication

2000
02:50:30,160 --> 02:50:34,160
recently. Yeah,
>> I said you can't count. You're not going

2001
02:50:32,880 --> 02:50:37,760
to get your
>> mail postmarked at the local post

2002
02:50:36,000 --> 02:50:42,960
office. They're going to close down. I
guess they have 200 hubs. I don't know

2003
02:50:39,840 --> 02:50:45,760
if it was all in New York State or but
they're now going to be 60. And you're

2004
02:50:44,319 --> 02:50:50,399
right. Instead of going to Albany, which
only would mean a day that you a day or

2005
02:50:48,399 --> 02:50:54,720
later that you get your mail and it gets
postmarked. It has to go to hundreds of

2006
02:50:52,960 --> 02:50:59,359
miles away, which could be three, four
days before it gets postmarked. So

2007
02:50:57,120 --> 02:51:04,240
there's tons of problems that poses for
government, for taxpayers, the IRS, for

2008
02:51:02,479 --> 02:51:10,080
things like this. So it's probably
that's the situation here. Uh so my

2009
02:51:07,120 --> 02:51:13,760
recommendation to my because I have a
lot of deadlines where I have to have a

2010
02:51:11,520 --> 02:51:17,840
postmark. Uh it won't get postmarked,
but I will get the damn post office to

2011
02:51:15,760 --> 02:51:21,920
stamp something on there and give me a
receipt so that I could say, "Hey, it's

2012
02:51:20,000 --> 02:51:25,920
not my problem." So there is there is
this is going to be a big problem. I've

2013
02:51:23,439 --> 02:51:29,514
been noticing in my business half of the
stuff that I'm getting doesn't even have

2014
02:51:27,760 --> 02:51:30,880
a postmark on it. [clears throat]
[laughter]

2015
02:51:30,479 --> 02:51:35,200
So
>> when it goes machines, it's just flying

2016
02:51:33,520 --> 02:51:39,760
in two or three letters that go through
and you know, but okay. So that was my

2017
02:51:38,800 --> 02:51:43,680
question there.
>> You can look it up online. They've got a

2018
02:51:41,279 --> 02:51:53,080
new circular walks right through the
whole you know basically it's too bad.

2019
02:51:48,479 --> 02:51:53,080
Well, post pretty much

2020
02:51:54,080 --> 02:52:01,680
» Yeah. The night did all the food mailing
for people for dinner for Christmas. We

2021
02:52:00,560 --> 02:52:04,160
were afraid that they weren't going to
get them before Christmas.

2022
02:52:02,560 --> 02:52:07,439
» Yeah. They got their letter January.
>> Yeah.

2023
02:52:06,193 --> 02:52:13,040
[clears throat]
>> So, okay. Thank you very much. I

2024
02:52:09,920 --> 02:52:18,319
appreciate it. I I appreciate the county
new york.gov so I can go there and um

2025
02:52:16,240 --> 02:52:21,880
read about what's going on.
And um

2026
02:52:23,040 --> 02:52:32,960
this might be a bad question.
Did you want to become a councilman

2027
02:52:30,960 --> 02:52:39,600
because you wanted to do something for
your town or for the money?

2028
02:52:36,720 --> 02:52:44,240
» That's an easy one.
>> I won't answer that. I I hope you have

2029
02:52:41,600 --> 02:52:49,439
seen and if you go on the town website
like you referenced that the activity,

2030
02:52:47,040 --> 02:52:54,160
the work that this town board is putting
in, you know, all of us and the town

2031
02:52:52,479 --> 02:53:00,479
employees
uh and and and the passion that we bring

2032
02:52:57,120 --> 02:53:07,040
to this to this town and and and the
amount of time um is sufficient to show

2033
02:53:04,560 --> 02:53:10,560
you that we're here because we care
about the town and we're passionate

2034
02:53:08,880 --> 02:53:15,520
about the town and we want to see the
town thrive and I think the town board

2035
02:53:12,800 --> 02:53:20,640
has done a good job um as a whole
including the town employees.

2036
02:53:17,279 --> 02:53:26,880
» Okay. So I volunteered
as a Cub Scout master and a Cub Scout

2037
02:53:24,160 --> 02:53:34,000
leader and well they don't call them
dead mothers anymore but um for nine

2038
02:53:29,520 --> 02:53:38,560
years in this building we held scouts.
Okay. And I volunteered for nine years.

2039
02:53:36,720 --> 02:53:44,080
I didn't say anything to anybody. I
didn't ask for anything. I didn't get

2040
02:53:40,240 --> 02:53:48,800
paid for. I also was part of the upper
Jire Department auxiliary when they had

2041
02:53:46,080 --> 02:53:54,399
one. I didn't get paid. I was president
of that twice. I didn't get paid. I

2042
02:53:51,760 --> 02:53:59,120
didn't get any glory, nothing like that
because of the work I had done. Um, I

2043
02:53:57,680 --> 02:54:02,800
volunteered at the thrift shop in
Wilmington. Again, I don't get paid. I'm

2044
02:54:02,080 --> 02:54:06,399
not looking for
>> I want to stop you there. This is not

2045
02:54:04,720 --> 02:54:10,160
the only
I would say you call it job or whatever

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you want to call it engagement that we
all have. We all have full-time jobs the

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town council and I can assure you that
everyone here is doing a lot more other

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volunteer work aside from our town
duties. So what you were just describing

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I'm sure many of us are engaged in many
other organizations or I know for a fact

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they are as we all are. So, so
>> you think that it's okay for you to

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collect that 6,000 whatever?
>> I believe so. Yes.

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» Otherwise, otherwise
and and and you can run for office. Do

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02:54:47,120 --> 02:54:55,200
you have anything else other than other
>> I go around on the roads in the spring

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02:54:53,200 --> 02:54:58,000
and summer and into the fall and I pick
up trash.

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02:54:57,120 --> 02:55:03,359
I [cough and clears throat] don't I have
an adopt a highway sign on Springfield

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Road, but I go all the way around.
>> You're not the only one.

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» And I would also say if you aren't
already aware the highway department

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will come and collect that trash so that
you don't have to pay to dispose of it.

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02:55:12,640 --> 02:55:17,359
I know we do that for
>> I know I I have talked to the highway

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02:55:16,399 --> 02:55:20,160
department or
>> I just want to make sure you're not

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02:55:18,720 --> 02:55:29,680
incurring expenses for
>> I leave it at the um station in um just

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outside of St. to park and um I have
actually left bags a number of bags on

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the side of the road and called the town
and said I did this you need to help me

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out with picking this up if you would
and they have done so

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02:55:43,680 --> 02:55:54,399
but I just wanted you to know that I
don't sit on my butt all the time and

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complain you may think I do later so I
appreciate the time you put in and I

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hope you have a good evening.
>> Thank you very much. Any other comments?

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Being none, our next meeting, regular
board meeting is February 12th, um 2026

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02:56:06,880 --> 02:56:15,439
at 7 p.m. here. Uh we do not need any
executive session tonight. Um so I will

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take a motion for adjournment. So move,
>> Mr. McDonald. The second,

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» Miss Dwire. It is 9:55.
We are adjourned.