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4th, 2022. I'm Jeff Co. Commissioner Andy Kerr here with Commissioners Craftharp and Commissioner

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Stahlkempir. Our clerk this morning is Ms. Glen and our host is Ms. Winkworth, who will

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handle requests for public comment and public testimony sign up in the chat for those of

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you joining us virtually. There are several ways to join our hybrid meeting, all of which

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are listed on our website at Jeffco.us. Hybrid meetings are held in person and virtually.

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You're always welcome to reach out to the board on the county's website at Jeffco.us or

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by email at comish at Jeffco.us. We will start with the pledge of allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the nice summer and to the Republic for which it stands

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one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice.

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Next on our agenda is public comment as a reminder the board will take up to 15 minutes

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at the beginning of the meeting and if needed additional comment will be taken at the end

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of the meeting on items not listed on the agenda.

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If you are here in person and have not signed up to give public comment please use the sign

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of sheets out in the hall.

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If you are here in person and wish to speak during public comment please come down near

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the front and have a seat and you will be called up one at a time.

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If you are joining us virtually, please log into our meeting using a computer and send

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a note to Miss Winkworth in the chat with your full name, address, and the topic.

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The chat function is only seen by the host and no comments are retained in the record.

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And let me see.

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Is there anyone in the room that is planning on to speak during public comment?

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and

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we,

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for public comment,

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okay, that will be public testimony a little bit later so we will get you at that point and we have no public comment online at this time.

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So during our hearing portion we will have opportunities to speak to particular agenda items and we will also have another opportunity for

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public comment at the end of the meeting for those who were unable to speak during this segment.

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Next, we have a proclamation for domestic violence awareness.

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Commissioners, please join me at the podium.

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that violence in my home suggests impact in the state's entire community is a precursor to so many others.

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When children witness or experience violence in my home,

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that's how children feel in this public.

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Without intervention, children are a hyper-risk for school-failing

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Substances abuse, repeat victimization, and perhaps most tragically perpetrated violence

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later.

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None of us can solve this crisis together by using every tool that I'm supposed to do.

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Using to never back down or give up, we can make a real difference in our votes and the

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information.

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Yes, microphones might be useful.

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As I mentioned, we have guests with us this morning.

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We have DA King, we have Todd Reaves, Division Chief of Investigations, and Family Tree Chief

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Impact Officer Tina Higman.

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DA King, would you like to say a few words?

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Thank you so much for those who have taken the time to recognize domestic violence awareness

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month.

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All of us who have worked on behalf of domestic violence survivors do that because we want

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and give voice to the voiceless.

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We want to offer a helping hand

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and give someone the feeling of safety

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that is sometimes so hard to find.

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But in preparation for today,

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I looked back at our comments from last year

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because we do this every year.

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And my question was, well, what are we doing, right?

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So last year we ushered in porch light into our community,

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our family justice center.

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And porch light really gives the opportunity

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for people to find those things, their voice, a little bit of safety, tools to keep going,

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whether they want to be part of law enforcement or not.

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And that is really starting to embed itself in our community in an incredibly meaningful way,

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because it brings so many services together for our survivors.

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But what we also need to start thinking about now that we have this avenue

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for people to seek support and services, is how we get to the cyclical nature of abuse.

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There is of course the cyclical nature within the relationship, but there is also the

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cyclical nature within the family. And as a board member of Portlite and as your district attorney,

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I'm committed to finding new ways to break down that barrier, that cycle. Because that's really how

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we have a meaningful impact, as the commissioners mentioned, to this greater community problem that domestic

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domestic violence poses.

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Recently, our law enforcement partners committed to taking additional investigative steps

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in order to help find ways to corroborate the adult victim, ways for children to be heard

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and for families to really start a healing process, and that's something we will continue

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to do as leaders within this community, and knowing full well how much domestic violence

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not only hurts the individual, but it has a tumbling effect down through families and down through communities as a whole.

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We have to start addressing that larger issue together.

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So let's keep doing things, and I look forward to reporting back to you on next year about what else we've done to help address domestic violence in the community.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you, DA King.

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Let's see Chief Reeves.

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Thank you, Commissioner Kerr.

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I'm Todd Reeves and the Division Chief with the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office.

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And I'm here today on behalf of the Sheriff's Office to represent the importance and

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the value of the awareness and domestic violence.

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This morning when I came into work, there was many members of our Family Crimes Investigations

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Unit, figuring they were coming here to show the support.

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Unfortunately, they were there because of a serious domestic violence that occurred last

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night that left a wrath of destruction all the way down to 85.

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That same family crimes unit has investigated and reviewed over 1,350 cases in just the

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last 12 months.

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Our victim services unit has responded out on 440 calls to offer services and provide

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services for victims of domestic violence in just the last 12 months.

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We don't have to look very far to have an example of some of the wrath and issues that the DA had spoken about.

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Less than a month ago on September 10th, deputies of the Jefferson County Sheriff's Department investigators responded to a call for service in which a man during a custody child exchange had shot and killed the mother of a two year old and a six year old.

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He had locked the two-year-old and the six-year-old in the house and then proceeded to kill himself.

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The two-year-old and the six-year-old, the only family members were not even living in this country.

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Fortunately for our victim services unit, they were able to bring resources in to be able to support these children.

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But the impact that's going to have to this family forever is unimaginable and not something that any of us want to work with.

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I do want to also offer the thanks and appreciation to family tree and porch light.

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The resources that you provide for our victim services and for the victims and the community

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are outstanding.

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For district attorney king and all of the work that your office does and the fortitude

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to continue to press forward is amazing.

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For the commissioners and everyone here today, thank you for bringing awareness to this incredibly

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horrible ill in society and hopefully we can get better and we can as soon eradicate all

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these problems.

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Thank you.

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Tina Hagueman.

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Good morning and thank you.

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I'm Tina Hagueman, Chief Impact Officer at Family Tree.

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My pronouns are she, her hers and I'm pleased to be here to represent Family Tree and tell

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you a bit about our programs and services.

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Family Tree partners with all people to prevent and overcome the interconnected issues of

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child abuse, domestic violence, and homelessness to promote safety, healing, and stability across

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generations. We started as a partnership in Jefferson County with Jefferson County and now

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expanded to the entire Metro Denver area. We provide services including residential and housing

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programs to serve people who have experienced homelessness. We have child abuse programs like

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safe here, Colorado, domestic violence, outreach and legal advocacy programs that are co-located

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at porch light, and roots of courage, which is our confidential emergency shelter for persons

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fleeing domestic violence in their children. Not today, not just today, not just this month,

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but always. We ask you to acknowledge the strength, courage, and resilience of domestic violence

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survivors who must repeatedly prioritize their safety and the safety of their children

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and loved ones.

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And specifically, I want to recognize the two 27 adult survivors and 20 children who

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are family to clients that are currently housed in our home at last program.

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They, most of them and many of them went through our roots of courage, a shelter, they may

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We have gone through our legal advocacy program and our domestic violence advocacy program,

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and Family Tree was able to house them.

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They now are in apartments, they are receiving comprehensive case management, and they are

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able to stay in that apartment for up to two years as they stabilize their lives.

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I also want to thank the advocates and helping professionals who are here today who are unable

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able to be here today because they are working with survivors and especially thank our family

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tree team who is amazing. For your commitment to your work, for always centering the safety

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of survivors and providing essential guidance and support to every person who seeks our help.

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Thank you. To everyone who is here today, whether in person or virtually, I ask you to address

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domestic violence within your own life to support healthy relationships and family safety,

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to share information about family tree, about porch light, about all domestic violence and healthy

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services, to learn about domestic violence, and how to help to teach your children about consent

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and respect, and above all to always believe and support survivors. Thank you.

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And thank you all for joining us this morning and what you do for the citizens of Jefferson County is important.

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So thank you for your leadership regarding this pressing issue.

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I will now read our proclamation.

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Whereas, launched nationwide in October 1987, Domestic Violence Awareness Month is a way to connect

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in unite individuals and organizations working on domestic violence issues while raising awareness

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for those issues. And, whereas, domestic violence affects millions of people in the United States,

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causes significant harm to the physical and mental health of survivors and their families,

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undermines their economic stability and overall well-being and is a stain on the conscience of our country.

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Whereas we honor the tremendous dedication of advocates and service providers,

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honor the courage and resilience of survivors, and recommit ourselves to standing with them for safety, dignity, and justice.

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where as we call upon everyone to speak out against domestic violence and support efforts to educate young people about healthy relationships centered on respect, support victims and survivors in your own families and networks

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and to support the efforts of victim advocates, service providers, health care providers and the legal system as well as the leadership of survivors and

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working to end domestic violence.

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Now, therefore, be it proclaimed by the Jefferson County Board of Commissioners of the

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State of Colorado that the month of October 2022 be declared as domestic violence awareness

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month in this county.

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Can I ask for our speakers to come back up, please?

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I'll be presenting this proclamation to DA King,

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and actually we're going to invite everyone

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up for for a picture. So you

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have to stay down here and make sure there's enough room for everyone.

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You guys can either come down on the front row.

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Ready?

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Did you put one thing in?

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You know if they say it's one of the reasons it's full current.

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I don't know.

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Oops.

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Russ.

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Can you grab that door?

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Thanks.

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Yes.

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Or Chris.

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Yes.

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Russ was furthest back.

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It was furthest back.

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Great.

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Thank you, everyone.

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Next we have the approval of the minutes from September 27th, 2022.

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May I have a motion to approve, please?

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You may.

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I move for the approval of the minutes dated September 27th, 2022.

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Second.

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This is proper motion and a second.

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Ms. Glenn, will you please call the vote?

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Commissioner Kraftbart?

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Yes.

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Commissioner Dalkenberg?

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Yes.

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Commissioner Kurt?

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Aye.

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And that passes unanimously.

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Next, we have four items on the consent agenda.

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Commissioners, would either of you like to take an item off the consent agenda?

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No.

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No, thanks.

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May I have a motion to approve item 7.1 through 7.4?

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You may, I move for the approval of consent agenda item 7.1 through 7.4.

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Second.

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Proper motion and a second, Ms. Glenn, will you please call the vote.

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Commissioner Cropthorpe?

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Yes.

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Commissioner Dalkamper?

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Commissioner Curve?

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And that passes unanimously.

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We have no agenda items on our regular agenda.

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We do have a financial update from Mario Neal.

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Welcome, Ms. O'Neal and team.

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Good morning, commissioners.

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Good morning.

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We're here today to do our quarterly economic and financial update.

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and presenting today we have Tiana Rivera, she'll be doing the economic analysis update for you and Andrea and

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Angela will be doing the financial update. Just to note before we get started we have changed the format of this

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presentation and we've changed some of the date ranges and we would welcome feedback from you. So I will go ahead and

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turn it over to Tiana.

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Good morning. Thank God and move to the next slide please. Thank you.

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When reviewing stats for economy, we want to see steady growth, price stability, and

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a healthy workforce mix.

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Real gross domestic product GDP decreased at an annual rate of 0.6 percent in the second

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quarter of 2022.

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In quarter one, 2022, US GDP shrink on an annualized basis of 1.4 percent.

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This is down from 6.9 percent in Q4 of 2021.

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one. The boxes on the left show the five variables that impact real GDP. Private sector supply chain

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refers to private inventory investment decreases and wholesale trade such as motor vehicles.

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Housing investments refers to residential fix investments such as home building and remodeling

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that were reduced due to higher interest rates. Federal government spending describes the

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decrease in non-defense spending such as the sale of crude oil from the strategic petroleum reserve.

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state and local government spending as a result of a decrease investment in structures.

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Experts increased, led by industrial supplies and materials as well as travel services.

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Consumer spending increased in housing, utilities and gasoline.

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Does this indicate a recession?

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Looking at quarter two, 2022 data, here are the key recessionary indicators to determine if this might be a concern or not.

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The Klein and Rail GDP. Yes, there has been a minor decline in the past two quarters.

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The Klein and Rail income. Yes, year-of-a-year, average hourly earnings declined by 3.1%,

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and weekly earnings declined by 3.9%. This set the national level and the local numbers

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are not available at this update.

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The Klein and Employment. No. Employment and Jeff Co. grew by 4,284 jobs since Q1 in 2022.

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2. Decline an industrial production? Yes. Private sector supply chain has reduced from

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ongoing pandemic related impacts. Decline and wholesale retail sales? No. Retail sales

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in Jeff Co has increased year-to-year 8.9%. At a recent presentation at the 10 county meeting,

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the state chief economist Greg Sybetsky said maybe to the concerns of a recession.

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Next slide please.

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The retail sales data from the Colorado Department of Revenue is current

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through June 2022. Year-over-year retail sales have increased by 8.9%. The chart on the right

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shows retail sales by industry where the top five industries show the adjustments and consumer spending

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since the pandemic, such as the significant increase of 175.4% at hobby stores. The bottom five shows

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the impact of supply chain constraints and inflation on industries such as

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manufacturing reducing by 1.8%.

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Next slide.

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The rise in inflation makes the

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cost of goods and services less predictable, and the value of our dollar doesn't

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go as far. The US Federal Reserve and most other central banks target a 2%

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inflation rate per year. While this shows a decrease from 9.1 to 8.2% from our last

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update, there still is uncertainty in the economic climate. The Denver Aurora Lakewood consumer

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price index, CPI, shows the change of prices paid by consumers since 2019, with the most recent

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reporting from July 2022. The two most notable impacts depicted on the graph are all types of gasoline,

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which increased year-over-year by 33.9 percent, and food at home groceries increased by 13.6 percent.

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This measures the impact of inflation on essential goods and affordability for our community members.

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Next slide.

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Since the last update on June 7th, Jeff Co. unemployment decreased by approximately 2000 individuals,

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which is a decrease of 17.5%.

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The 3% unemployment rate in Jeff Co. is slightly lower than the state of Colorado's 3.4%.

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In quarter two, 2022, there were 17,403 open positions for 9,818 individuals

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on unemployment. The open position mean wage is lower than the mean employed wage, which

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makes it more difficult for job seekers to afford living and working in Jessica. As

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you can see, housing increased significantly, and as a result, it's less affordable for

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the average earner. To make these stats more relatable, here's a recent MIT study that

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describes the living wage ranges in Jeffco. A living wage is 42,241 for a single employed

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adult, 116,345 for two employed adults with two children, 104,324 for a single employed

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adult with two children. Looking at the study compared to the mean open position wage,

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a single-employed adult and two-employed adults with two children would earn a living wage,

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but the single-employed adult with two children would not. This is the same outcome for the mean-employed

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wage. Looking at the mean open position wage, all three groups could not afford the median

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single-family home. The two-employed adults with two children could afford the median

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in town, home, or condo, but the other groups could not.

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This is the same outcome with the mean employed wage.

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Looking at the economic signals,

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that indicate signs of an upcoming recession,

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such as two consecutive periods of real GDP decline,

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inflation rate, the decline of real income,

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and decrease in investments such as supply chain,

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it is inconclusive of this will result in a recession.

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The two indicators that are not in support of a recession

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are an increase in employment and increase in retail sales.

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We will continue to watch the indicators to determine if the concerns of a recession are valid.

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Workforce has grown to the point where there are more jobs and job seekers.

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But through inflation, rising housing costs, and lower open position mean wage,

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it has been less affordable to live and work in Jeffco.

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Next slide, please.

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I will now turn over the financial update over to Andrea.

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Thanks,

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Tiana.

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Next page, please.

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As a summary of the status of ARPA fund allocations,

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presented here are the various task forces.

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We have 55 million approved by the BCC,

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with 3 million spent so far.

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The spending is primarily made up of ARPA oversight,

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county legal services, and the peak program.

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There are 32 million in projects moving forward to briefing,

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with approximately 25 million set aside as placeholders.

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In the appendix is a list of the projects if you want more details.

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We have a BCC work session on 1025 where we will continue our discussion on the overall ARPA allocations.

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Next slide, please.

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Here are grants serving as alternative funding sources for the county.

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Those with the asterisks have been awarded and the others have been submitted by the ARPA team.

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The State ARPA IHOP grant is for the 15-year strategic housing study plan.

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The State OBH ARPA grant is to support JCMH in suicide prevention.

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We welcome any questions or feedback. Thank you.

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Great, thank you, commissioners.

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I have one or two quick follow questions for you. Thanks so much for a great presentation.

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really appreciate hearing these quarterly reports on how our local economy is doing what unemployment looks like, retail sales and more.

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And I'm wondering, you know, Mary, you've been a part of this process over the last number of years as we've weathered COVID, as we've allocated CARES Act money,

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ARPA dollars especially with attention to our local small businesses and many of them weathered

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COVID others struggled. Can you step back and just give us your observation about the 35.6 million

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that helped with economic recovery from ARPA dollars and some of those CARES Act dollars and what

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you think those have meant for local businesses, what we've observed locally because of that funding

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and our work with our chamber presidents as well to be very targeted and strategic.

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And I would say that of course we did do a lot of programs during the CARES Act to help

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local business and the chambers and overall I would say that we have seen an improvement

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in small businesses and I don't know if we'd want to, Tiana do we have that one slide does

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it talk about the different sectors in Jefferson County

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but I would say you know especially when

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Can you take a look at how employment has improved in the last quarter and how retail sales have improved in the last quarter?

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I think those are two strong indicators for how businesses overall are doing.

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I wouldn't make a broad statement to say that every business is doing well.

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I think just in terms of people feeling comfortable and getting out, we're seeing a lot more of that.

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And I do think that that's helping the overall business market.

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But just in general, I think that the programs we have put in place have done a lot to support local business.

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I know, thank you for that.

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I know one of the things we worked really hard on in terms of allocating those dollars in a thoughtful way was to help keep as many businesses open as possible.

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As you look over the last two years or so of the pandemic, do you have an idea of what our data look like for

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local businesses, including businesses that closed their doors, businesses that were able

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to continue or percentage is roughly.

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I do not have that information with me now, but I can get that for you.

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That would be great. Thank you.

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And I'd be curious to know how it compares to other counties our size in the central area.

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As we check on that and provide that to you.

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Thank you very much.

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And thanks to the whole team for all the work that you've done on this presentation and also

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throughout the pandemic and as we work on recovery too.

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I just wanted to point out, if we go back to the second slide, the second graph,

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ARPA funding update,

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then yes, that one, the 175% growth in sporting goods.

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At least half of that is because of a certain lacrosse player I know.

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So, I just wanted to point out the Kerr family doing their part to help out with the sporting goods industry.

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in Jefferson County.

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Of course, also a significant growth in hobby sales.

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Musical instruments under if there are any glass flutes that I digress.

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I don't think I have any other question.

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We, of course, under the fund status by our, our task force, we, of course, want to get the goal is to get all of those into the actual column as soon as possible.

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What do you see as some of the funds that will be spent next and soonest and the most?

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I need to think about what we have queued up in procurement right now.

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I know that Roden Bridge has a number of projects going forward.

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So we should see some spending in that area.

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We did have the housing master plan approved, so we should see, I'm not sure if that's showing

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as actual yet, I don't believe that's been paid.

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So that project should be underway shortly.

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Help me remember team.

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What other things do we have queued up?

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But the

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wildfire work, we do have some of that underway now too.

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But as we get more and more projects, it just takes a little while to work it through

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the system to get things rolling.

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But there's a lot of activity, countywide going on, on getting these ARPA projects in place.

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Great.

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And so at this point, have we allocated the full, the 113 does look like that?

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Not yet, we have made recommendations for the entire 113.

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We do have some savings that we can look at some of those other urgent projects that were brought forward by leadership in April of this year.

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But we do have the work session scheduled for October 25th.

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And we'll be bringing several briefing papers forward to you so some of those projects can get kicked off if they're approved.

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And a couple of other projects that we have placeholders that we're just really looking

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for some direction on, like do you want us to move forward with this or would you prefer

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us to do something else?

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Great.

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Thank you.

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Any other questions?

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Just one quick follow-up on your question in Mary's comment so that October 25th session

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should then wrap up in addition to the guidance you'd like from the board on those placeholders,

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the ARPA funding that we currently have,

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or is there yet another chunk?

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Most of it, it would.

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We are, you know, we experience savings in projects,

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so we roll that into the contingency that we have set aside,

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so that will allow us to make additional decisions.

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Great. Thank you.

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Great. Thank you, and Mary, please let your whole team know

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that we really appreciate coming in,

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giving us this information and all the hard work you're doing.

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Thank you so much. I'll let them know.

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Thank you.

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Next is the hearing consent portion of our meeting.

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We have one item on the consent agenda.

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Ms. Glenn, will you please read hearing consent agenda item 11.1 into the record.

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Resolution CC22-264, case number 21120021RZ.

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Golden Automotive Holdings, Owner Applicant, Golden Automotive Group Holdings, LLC, Location-155-911-156-0115701, West Colfax Avenue,

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A proximate area, 9.79 acres, purpose to rezone from commercial one and commercial two to plan to development to allow for hail protection structures to be added to the existing automotive sales uses case manager, Heather got their list.

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Great. Thank you. Is there anyone in the audience would like to remove this item from

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the consent agenda? The sweep-worth is there anyone joining us virtually would like

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to remove this item from the consent agenda? There is not.

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Commissioners would either of you like to pull this item off the consent agenda. No, thanks.

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May I have a motion to approve the consent agenda item 11.1?

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You may move for the approval of hearing consent agenda item 11.1.

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In.

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Proper motion.

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In a second, Ms. Glenn, will you please call the roll.

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Commissioner Crafthark.

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Yes.

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Commissioner Dalkenberg.

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Yes.

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Commissioner Kerr.

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I, in that passes unanimously.

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Next, we will move to the hearing regular portion of our meeting.

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We have two items.

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Ms. Glenn, will you please read hearing regular agenda 12.1 into the record?

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Resolution CC22-265, case number 22-104-558 AM, applicant, Jefferson County, location,

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unincorporated Jefferson County, purpose to amend Section 15 and 39 of the zoning

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resolution to update wildfire mitigation regulations to amend chapter three of the transportation

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design and construction manual to update driveway and private road standards.

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Amendments to chapter three are no longer proposed at this time and to update other sections

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of the zoning resolution and land development regulations as appropriate to change references

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to the title of Section 39, Case Manager, Cassidy Clements, and Heather Gutherrless.

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Great. Thank you. Next we'll go to our Planning and Zoning Division, Heather Gutherrless,

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and Cassidy Clements for a brief presentation on 12.1.

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We're having a little bit of technical difficulty if we get like one second.

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No problem.

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Thank you so much.

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Okay, thank you. Sorry for the delay. I think we have figured it out and we are ready

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to be made the presenter.

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Okay,

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so let me just share my screen and we will get the start of this morning.

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Right? Good morning. Thank you for your patience and thank you for your time this morning. My name is Cassidy Climates. I will be presenting the proposed changes to the zoning resolution when the wildfire regulation update phase 2.

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So

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this morning I will be talking you through the previous changes that planning and zoning

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staff has presented to you and the Board of County Commissioners has approved.

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We'll talk about the referral process, the background for the request for a proposal

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and the changes that we have proposed, and then we'll go into the proposed changes in the

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zoning resolution, staff findings, and future phases.

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So the previous changes that you all have seen before to the zoning resolution was to require

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all building permits in the wildfire overlay district to require a

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defensible space permit or any size of addition or type of structure. We also

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required the request for proof of fire protection to all building permits and

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we corrected some locations of board of adjustment language within that section.

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And I would like to note, originally staff was proposing to modify the language in

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the transportation, design, and construction manual regarding driveways and public streets

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and roads to address some concerns that the International Wildfire Urban Interface

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Code contained.

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We received some concerns from some professional engineers and from the community, so we have

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removed that proposal language at this time.

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We will be bringing back those changes to the transportation, design, and construction manual

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at a later date.

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So, today we will only be focusing on the zoning resolution changes.

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The referral process, staffs and out two referral periods to agencies and organizations to receive feedback.

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We had a community meeting in late June to meet with the community to receive feedback from the first referral of the proposed changes.

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We sent out notification using notify me to registered HOAs and people signed up for notification of regulation amendments. And we also had meetings with the Fire Marshalls Group, the Planning Commission and Board of County Commissioners briefings.

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Some comments we received between the first and the second referral of the proposed regulation changes. We received some requests to allow fire districts to approve defensible space standards. We received concerns about the continued use of the 6.302 document as the

457
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,960
guiding document within the zoning resolution at this time.

458
00:45:36,220 --> 00:45:40,480
We received concern about the application of defensible space to new construction only

459
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,340
and concern about the language regarding off-site road improvements.

460
00:45:47,870 --> 00:45:51,070
Some background on the request for proposal that is currently out.

461
00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:57,650
So planning staff has been working with emergency management and transportation and engineering

462
00:45:57,650 --> 00:46:05,450
to complete a request for a proposal to receive a comprehensive overhaul of quite a few documents.

463
00:46:05,970 --> 00:46:14,510
These documents include a community wildfire protection plan and research for future updates of our wildfire regulations.

464
00:46:15,570 --> 00:46:25,290
The information that we gain from this RFP will immediately correlate with phase three of our wildfire regulation updates.

465
00:46:25,290 --> 00:46:32,630
And it also contains a public outreach plan with a comprehensive attempt to receive public

466
00:46:32,630 --> 00:46:37,730
input and insight in the Community Wile Fair Protection Plan and Phase 3 of the Regulation

467
00:46:37,730 --> 00:46:38,230
Updates.

468
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:46,240
So, let's talk about proposed revisions that staff is recommending approval of today.

469
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:53,140
First, we're going to look at Section 15, which is the landscaping section of the zoning

470
00:46:53,140 --> 00:46:53,740
resolution.

471
00:46:54,620 --> 00:46:59,900
All of the proposed language within section 15 are regulations from the International

472
00:46:59,900 --> 00:47:04,460
Wildman Urban Interface Code, or as I will refer to it as the I-WUE.

473
00:47:05,660 --> 00:47:10,560
This code has been and will continue to be a guiding document for planning and zoning

474
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,820
as it is the international standard for wildfire protection.

475
00:47:15,300 --> 00:47:21,140
We cannot necessarily put in a full comprehensive update and follow every code within the I-WUE,

476
00:47:21,140 --> 00:47:27,380
So we have been looking for things that will really help Jefferson County move forward in fire protection.

477
00:47:27,900 --> 00:47:30,860
We find that those things would be within the landscaping section.

478
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:37,000
That fire restrictive landscaping shall be considered within the wildfire urban interface,

479
00:47:37,420 --> 00:47:44,540
or are we overly district? We would like to restrict landscaping within 10 feet of power poles.

480
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:50,420
To add language requiring that all mulch shall be comprised of nonflammable materials,

481
00:47:50,420 --> 00:47:58,860
I.e. rock and require a vegetation management plan as a form of mitigation with specific site development plan applications.

482
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:09,380
So as you can see, the top photo that is shown before you is an example of using all fire-resistive landscaping and

483
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,960
multi-materials that are non-flammable like rock.

484
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:19,360
And then the second image before you is the restriction of landscaping within 10 feet of power pulse

485
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,560
just to give you a visual perspective of both.

486
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:27,100
The proposed revisions to Section 39

487
00:48:27,970 --> 00:48:31,860
are a title change to the Wildland Urban Interface

488
00:48:31,860 --> 00:48:33,680
or WUE Overlay District.

489
00:48:34,460 --> 00:48:37,820
This is to be consistent with state and federal regulations

490
00:48:38,370 --> 00:48:40,360
and to be consistent with that I, WUE,

491
00:48:40,620 --> 00:48:43,180
or that international Wildland Urban Interface Code.

492
00:48:44,060 --> 00:48:48,400
We've also proposed a term change from licensed Forester,

493
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,120
which is existing in the code now,

494
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,800
to a wildfire, interface fire specialist.

495
00:48:53,240 --> 00:48:55,180
Because through this process, we found out

496
00:48:55,180 --> 00:48:57,480
that there is no such thing as a licensed forrister.

497
00:48:57,980 --> 00:48:59,340
And so we wanted to just make sure

498
00:48:59,340 --> 00:49:02,460
that we were using incorrect terminology.

499
00:49:03,540 --> 00:49:05,380
We have also added a time limit

500
00:49:05,380 --> 00:49:06,780
on defensible space permits.

501
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,940
So a defensible space permit will be active

502
00:49:09,940 --> 00:49:12,400
and applicable for a three-year time frame.

503
00:49:13,580 --> 00:49:16,380
And we've added that zone one defensible space standard

504
00:49:16,380 --> 00:49:18,160
should be completed around driveways,

505
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,660
which is ten feet on either side of a driveway and

506
00:49:24,570 --> 00:49:25,870
then some housekeeping updates.

507
00:49:25,870 --> 00:49:33,790
We are proposing changes to the table of contents in section 911 and 42 to reflect that title change

508
00:49:33,790 --> 00:49:40,590
of section 39, so changing it from the wildland, excuse me, changing it to the wildland urban

509
00:49:40,590 --> 00:49:41,850
interface overly district.

510
00:49:46,340 --> 00:49:50,160
The Planning Commission heard the case on September 14 and recommended

511
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:56,900
approval of this case with a five to two vote. The two no votes cited concerns about

512
00:49:56,900 --> 00:50:00,920
having a professional engineer to determine whether the alternative standards requested

513
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:08,840
are sufficient, and cited concerns about having the engineer stamp those sets of relief

514
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,740
instead of a fire protection district. This is one of the reasons why we have removed

515
00:50:13,740 --> 00:50:18,640
those changes to the transportation design and construction manual. At this time, we would

516
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,360
like more time to confer with engineers

517
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,760
and fire protection districts

518
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,620
to see what the right set of languages to move forward.

519
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,240
So we anticipate that this will be presented to you all

520
00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:34,580
as a piece of an update to the transportation design

521
00:50:34,580 --> 00:50:36,280
and construction manual at a later date

522
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,480
from our engineering department.

523
00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:42,410
And staff finds that the amendments

524
00:50:42,410 --> 00:50:44,230
to the zoning resolution proposed today

525
00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:47,330
will establish clear concise and comprehensive documents

526
00:50:47,810 --> 00:50:50,010
that meet the needs of our community and the county.

527
00:50:50,730 --> 00:51:00,170
So the amendments are consistent with county, state, and federal standards, and that they're in the best interest of the health, safety, and general welfare of Jefferson County and its community.

528
00:51:00,990 --> 00:51:10,290
We and the Planning Commission are recommending approval of this case, but ultimately, it is you the Board of County commissioners that approve the proposed regulation amendments.

529
00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:11,650
Thank you so much.

530
00:51:13,790 --> 00:51:16,250
Great. Thank you. Commissioners, questions?

531
00:51:16,850 --> 00:51:21,090
I just have one quick clarifying question and I'm going to try and read my handwriting here.

532
00:51:21,270 --> 00:51:26,910
I think it was G or C302, the defensible space standard, and you were talking about

533
00:51:26,910 --> 00:51:28,570
community feedback that you had received.

534
00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:33,810
And there was concern that the defensible space was only for new construction.

535
00:51:34,570 --> 00:51:39,930
And I just wanted to come back to that because it's, if I understand correctly, that a standard

536
00:51:39,930 --> 00:51:45,330
would apply to people, for example, correct me if I'm wrong, who pull a building permit

537
00:51:45,330 --> 00:51:51,730
And for example, might want to change their deck, or perhaps they need a new roof, correct?

538
00:51:52,210 --> 00:51:58,910
So when people talked about new construction only, were they referring to those kinds of examples or new builds?

539
00:51:59,290 --> 00:52:02,250
Or was it more about, and what do we do with existing property?

540
00:52:02,410 --> 00:52:08,450
Because in some ways this helps us get at existing properties as well, should they need to make some home improvements?

541
00:52:09,250 --> 00:52:12,290
Absolutely, I think you just nailed it right there with your last comment.

542
00:52:12,290 --> 00:52:20,850
So the concern was that the application of defensible space permits is only for construction and not for existing homes.

543
00:52:21,310 --> 00:52:34,810
So at this time with the changes that were made within the last regulation update and phase one, any construction, so an addition to a deck, a detached garage, anything requires a defensible space permit.

544
00:52:34,810 --> 00:52:39,910
The concerns that we received were about the inequitable application of

545
00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:44,110
defensible space within the county if it's new versus old.

546
00:52:44,690 --> 00:52:49,630
But like you said, it is our way of capturing defensible space standards on properties

547
00:52:49,630 --> 00:52:51,510
that may not have been up kept throughout the years.

548
00:52:51,810 --> 00:52:55,510
And so anytime a building permit is pulled, that is our time to be able to capture

549
00:52:56,310 --> 00:52:58,830
defensible space inspections and standards on a property.

550
00:52:59,810 --> 00:53:00,390
Do you want to move?

551
00:53:00,390 --> 00:53:04,570
I was just going to note that there are some building permits that would not require

552
00:53:04,570 --> 00:53:10,390
defensible space such as internal remodels of like a kitchen or a basement and also re-roafing

553
00:53:10,390 --> 00:53:13,370
and reciting permits do not require defensible space permits.

554
00:53:13,570 --> 00:53:18,870
So there are some exceptions to that but generally if there are any exterior changes, a defensible

555
00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:20,070
space permit would be required.

556
00:53:21,070 --> 00:53:25,570
And let me just do one more quick clarification so I'm making sure I'm understanding this

557
00:53:25,570 --> 00:53:25,810
correctly.

558
00:53:26,330 --> 00:53:30,310
Also if I'm a developer and there's a property that I'm going to develop, let's say I'm

559
00:53:30,310 --> 00:53:34,350
could have built five new homes in the wildland urban interface, somewhere in Evergreen.

560
00:53:35,150 --> 00:53:40,170
I'm still required, under this, to ensure that there's defensible space and should we

561
00:53:40,170 --> 00:53:48,270
pass these other recommendations, flame ignition resistant vegetation and those other recommendations

562
00:53:48,270 --> 00:53:49,390
that we may correct.

563
00:53:49,810 --> 00:53:54,790
The defensible space and the ignition resistant materials still apply to those new builds as

564
00:53:54,790 --> 00:53:54,970
well.

565
00:53:54,970 --> 00:53:59,290
Yes, so we're really tackling it on, we're doing our best to tackle it on both fronts.

566
00:54:00,170 --> 00:54:00,910
Yes, that is correct.

567
00:54:01,230 --> 00:54:01,350
Okay.

568
00:54:04,090 --> 00:54:04,970
Thank you.

569
00:54:05,150 --> 00:54:07,070
So thank you very much for the information.

570
00:54:07,530 --> 00:54:10,110
I don't know if some of what you're talking about relates to this.

571
00:54:10,610 --> 00:54:12,990
But let me ask this, I've received numerous emails.

572
00:54:13,870 --> 00:54:20,010
The same email, so I think it's a coordinated effort about feedback.

573
00:54:20,010 --> 00:54:24,550
back, so if you could talk about who you got, which fire districts you got feedback from,

574
00:54:24,830 --> 00:54:30,470
what kind of feedback you got from them, and specifically the emails that I received concerns

575
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:34,710
about are about Golden Gate, Fire Protection District Board, and the community.

576
00:54:35,110 --> 00:54:36,650
Did we receive feedback from them?

577
00:54:37,150 --> 00:54:39,030
Have they had a chance to review and comment?

578
00:54:39,650 --> 00:54:42,330
All of these emails are requesting a six-month delay.

579
00:54:43,350 --> 00:54:49,830
Why would we, if we have not heard from Golden Gate, if we have not asked them, why would

580
00:54:49,830 --> 00:54:56,170
we not do a six, I don't know, why six months? I mean, that's unclear to me why it's not two hours

581
00:54:56,930 --> 00:55:01,930
to review, but why would we not delay this until we're able to get their feedback?

582
00:55:02,610 --> 00:55:09,190
Absolutely. Thank you so much for that question. So, staff sends out notice to the fire marshals

583
00:55:09,190 --> 00:55:15,050
of the local fire protection districts and we met with the fire marshal groups within the county.

584
00:55:15,050 --> 00:55:22,370
So that fire marshal group that we meet with once a month contains the fire marshal's from every fire protection district than the county.

585
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:25,870
It appears that and

586
00:55:28,430 --> 00:55:32,130
some of the referrals also include the chiefs of the fire protection districts.

587
00:55:33,130 --> 00:55:43,190
Yeah, so it appears that there might have been a breakdown between the fire marshal, the chief, and the boards within the fire protection districts.

588
00:55:44,110 --> 00:55:55,890
in the circumstance, but we feel as if the, we went through the proper procedure of notification of the representatives of the Fair Protection Districts.

589
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:14,040
Yeah, if I could just add as kind of an example as far as how we make sure that we get people notified, I guess I would see this concern similar to homeowners association where the county solicits information about who is the correct,

590
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:18,660
person from each of the fire districts, the water and sanitation districts, from homeowners

591
00:56:18,660 --> 00:56:25,580
associations, and we really rely then on that contact person to disseminate the information.

592
00:56:26,220 --> 00:56:31,360
It sounds like perhaps in this situation, our contact may not have done the appropriate

593
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:36,840
dissemination of information, and that is very difficult for us to police, however, people

594
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:43,320
are also welcome to come and register for the notify me, for regulation and plan updates,

595
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:52,980
so that they receive them information directly to them, and so that is another option for people that want to be involved in regulation and plan updates.

596
00:56:54,180 --> 00:57:03,400
So what I'm hearing, let me just make sure I'm hearing that we solicited it. We asked them for feedback, but we did not receive feedback from them. Is that what you're saying?

597
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:11,260
No. Golden Gate Canyon was at the meetings that we attended. The Golden Gate Canyon Fire

598
00:57:11,260 --> 00:57:16,820
District Fire Martial was there, and we did receive comments that we don't have anything in writing,

599
00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:22,340
I have to say, but we did at the meetings. I remember them commenting that they agreed with the

600
00:57:22,340 --> 00:57:29,500
proposed changes. So we received comments from the fire chief, but we are there other people in

601
00:57:29,500 --> 00:57:33,300
Golden Gate? Why are we getting all these emails? Are there other people in Golden Gate

602
00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:40,060
that did not have the opportunity to submit their feedback? I'm trying to understand.

603
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,540
I mean, it's not just one person, and it's obviously a coordinated effort, so somebody

604
00:57:44,540 --> 00:57:49,800
is displeased, and I'm trying to get my fingers around why somebody is displeased.

605
00:57:50,780 --> 00:57:55,800
And we haven't received that letter ourselves from planning staff, but from what you're

606
00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:02,320
saying it sounds like there may be a disconnect between the fire chief and maybe the fire board

607
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:08,200
and the information that was conveyed from the chief to the board and perhaps the board did not

608
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:15,880
get the information that they were interested in. Okay is there anybody else that we have not

609
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:21,180
gotten feedback from or we've not heard back from? I mean have we heard back from all of the other

610
00:58:21,180 --> 00:58:26,760
fire districts or wherever it is that's supposed to be the point person to be able to give feedback?

611
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:33,160
Yeah, so we have not, like the Golden Gate Fire District, we haven't necessarily received

612
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:39,060
the written feedback, because I think a lot of the fire districts were indicating at the

613
00:58:39,060 --> 00:58:45,540
Fire Martials meetings that they were fine with the proposed language, but we did reach out to all

614
00:58:45,540 --> 00:58:48,480
the fire districts, the fire districts are very good at attending those fire

615
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:54,020
marshals meetings. So we feel confident that they were

616
00:58:54,020 --> 00:58:55,500
are aware of the changes.

617
00:58:57,910 --> 00:59:02,550
And we've heard back from everybody else, whether it's at that meeting

618
00:59:03,270 --> 00:59:08,250
in conversations, I mean is there anyone else that's outstanding that we just haven't heard from?

619
00:59:11,100 --> 00:59:18,740
I can't think of anyone that we haven't heard from. We've met with foresters, we've met with

620
00:59:18,740 --> 00:59:24,320
engineers at this point. We've had comprehensive conversations about these regulation updates.

621
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:25,780
Okay, thank you.

622
00:59:28,850 --> 00:59:31,050
Any other questions at this point?

623
00:59:34,140 --> 00:59:37,240
Okay. We will move into public testimony.

624
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:43,920
If you would like to provide public testimony on this issue, please come down to the front,

625
00:59:44,100 --> 00:59:49,740
have a seat and we'll be called up to the podium one at a time. If you're joining us virtually,

626
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:59,620
If you're joining us virtually, please use the chat function to let the host know you would like to testify.

627
01:00:00,020 --> 01:00:06,960
On this issue, we're only taking public testimony on this issue. Each person will have three minutes

628
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:12,400
and persons who are registered by their associations to testify on this item, and that our within

629
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,020
notification areas will have 10 minutes.

630
01:00:18,540 --> 01:00:22,020
My script says we'll take speakers in the hearing

631
01:00:22,020 --> 01:00:27,340
room first. I'm going to amend that a little. We will take people who are in the hearing

632
01:00:27,340 --> 01:00:36,680
room first that signed up on our new advanced sign-up system. And I believe that covers everyone

633
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:44,860
we have in the room at this point. So, Mr. Green, does that include you? Great. Yes, please

634
01:00:44,860 --> 01:00:54,580
come on up. And thank you for signing up ahead of time through our system. I hope you found it easy

635
01:00:54,580 --> 01:00:59,480
and congratulations on being the very first person

636
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,480
to have signed up through that system

637
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,360
and that is why you get to go first.

638
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:07,220
Thank you, Commissioner.

639
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,400
And it's very nice to be here and meet you.

640
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:11,560
I haven't been up here.

641
01:01:11,980 --> 01:01:13,380
I was at the planning commission

642
01:01:13,380 --> 01:01:14,520
but haven't been in front of the commission

643
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:15,680
for a long time.

644
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:17,680
However, there I am.

645
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,120
So I am a board member

646
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,200
on the Golden Gate Fire Protection District.

647
01:01:22,580 --> 01:01:23,180
Excuse me, sir.

648
01:01:23,180 --> 01:01:24,680
Can we get you for an answer?

649
01:01:26,100 --> 01:01:33,020
Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

650
01:01:33,220 --> 01:01:33,860
So help you, God.

651
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:34,880
I do.

652
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:39,760
May I have you state your name, spell it, and your address for the record as well.

653
01:01:40,700 --> 01:01:44,240
Steve Green, S-T-E-V-E-G-R-E-E-N.

654
01:01:44,700 --> 01:01:51,400
And my address is 619-12th Street, number 188, Golden Colorado, 80402.

655
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:51,460
No.

656
01:01:54,940 --> 01:01:55,320
Am I good?

657
01:01:55,780 --> 01:01:55,880
Okay.

658
01:01:58,500 --> 01:01:59,520
So I'm sorry.

659
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:05,140
Are you representing yourself or are you representing the district today or you did send

660
01:02:05,140 --> 01:02:05,660
you a letter?

661
01:02:06,260 --> 01:02:06,380
Great.

662
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:07,300
And I do want to.

663
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,180
I assume you received a letter because I heard you speak about it.

664
01:02:11,380 --> 01:02:13,920
So you will have ten minutes since you're representing it.

665
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:14,120
Thanks.

666
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:15,060
I probably don't need ten.

667
01:02:15,180 --> 01:02:16,400
But you may have questions for me.

668
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:16,780
You're welcome.

669
01:02:16,900 --> 01:02:18,100
Or stat.

670
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:18,860
So.

671
01:02:18,860 --> 01:02:24,020
So, I've been elected three times on the Golden Gate Protection District Board,

672
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:28,160
most recently on May 3rd, and it's taken a while to get up the speed.

673
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:33,900
I was elected probably because, and three new board members because of a lot of dissatisfaction.

674
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:40,620
So, I've been in Colorado 50 years and our fire district is 50 square miles pretty much just west of here.

675
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:46,300
I believe it extends from the center of US Highway 6 up to Geneva Glade,

676
01:02:46,300 --> 01:02:52,000
which is that back Crawford Golds Road and all the way up to the Guilpin County line and approximately down the Mount Galbraith.

677
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:53,320
So it's right here.

678
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:54,220
It's our backyard.

679
01:02:56,580 --> 01:03:04,680
So I'm asking you, as the letter said, to please delay because we have not had a chance to review this.

680
01:03:05,140 --> 01:03:10,880
I know that the county has done staff has done an effort the best they can because it's not difficult.

681
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:12,520
It's not easy to reach everybody.

682
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:13,200
It's difficult.

683
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,380
But we were not informed.

684
01:03:17,860 --> 01:03:19,920
The board never discussed it in a meeting.

685
01:03:20,220 --> 01:03:21,300
The community was unaware.

686
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:25,640
I only became aware in June, but we had just been elected.

687
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,640
So there was a lot to take care of.

688
01:03:29,700 --> 01:03:31,900
Let me go on a little further here and see.

689
01:03:36,540 --> 01:03:38,660
These wildfire codes and regulations.

690
01:03:39,180 --> 01:03:43,640
They have a real impact on property owners and stakeholders in our district.

691
01:03:44,700 --> 01:03:47,660
sometimes they can be really difficult to comply with.

692
01:03:48,220 --> 01:03:54,160
Some of the water requirements in the IW UIC say things like

693
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:55,900
1500 gallons per minute.

694
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,840
I know we're not talking about that here. I'm just using that as an example.

695
01:03:59,380 --> 01:04:01,280
But they can be absolutely impossible in the mountains.

696
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:02,880
They'll stop people from developing

697
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,320
period or using the property.

698
01:04:07,420 --> 01:04:11,200
So I ask also, I strongly believe that our districts

699
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:17,000
should be able to continue with what we have always called the minimum alternative standards.

700
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,380
That means the district knows what's best in its district.

701
01:04:20,820 --> 01:04:25,900
They can assess its district and come up with reasonable solutions for people who may not be able to,

702
01:04:26,060 --> 01:04:33,220
for example, get by with a 12% grade, unless you want to really carve up the mountains.

703
01:04:33,460 --> 01:04:38,940
We have other ways to do that, which in the past had been the minimum alternative standards.

704
01:04:38,940 --> 01:04:49,770
I would really like, though, that we have a chance to review this more, and we asked for six months because we haven't seen it at all until recently.

705
01:04:50,650 --> 01:04:52,750
And then it gets changed quite a bit.

706
01:04:53,150 --> 01:04:54,490
At the planning commission meeting,

707
01:04:57,090 --> 01:05:00,190
it seems to have been changed since the planning commission meeting.

708
01:05:00,390 --> 01:05:03,970
Again, some things were pulled out of the plan, and that was only about two weeks ago.

709
01:05:04,350 --> 01:05:10,250
So again, there were changes that we would like to review with the community and the stakeholders.

710
01:05:11,190 --> 01:05:20,490
I would like to point out, though, it is the Fire Marshal's, they don't share with the community what goes on.

711
01:05:21,110 --> 01:05:25,970
I have been, I used to attend the Fire Marshal meetings when Randy was conducting a Miranda Rudolph.

712
01:05:26,750 --> 01:05:30,510
And he welcomed me, but recently I have not been welcome there.

713
01:05:31,130 --> 01:05:34,290
They have told me we don't want you to know what's going on.

714
01:05:34,690 --> 01:05:38,250
I have that in writing. Stay out of the way, we don't want you to get in the way.

715
01:05:38,250 --> 01:05:56,390
That's what our chief wrote our board and that's just unacceptable because the community wants to be able to be aware and participate in this process and I don't believe they have been able to so at the planning commission vote, it was a five to two vote.

716
01:05:57,030 --> 01:06:07,530
That's true, but it seemed to me that practical applications of this new wildfire code was some of the concerns of the planning commissioners.

717
01:06:07,530 --> 01:06:14,890
not just an engineering point of view, but they express that in the mountains, it's very difficult to

718
01:06:14,890 --> 01:06:20,110
practically apply some of these points without completely shutting down all development.

719
01:06:20,610 --> 01:06:23,630
And I do think some of the planning commissioners were very clear about that.

720
01:06:24,430 --> 01:06:29,530
I would also like to go on to say that the ICC, which stands for the International Code Council,

721
01:06:29,970 --> 01:06:32,250
is not an international body.

722
01:06:32,250 --> 01:06:36,390
It's got that name, but it's mostly applied here in the United States.

723
01:06:37,050 --> 01:06:43,510
And the IWUIC, which I, about 10 years ago, I reviewed the IWUIC with 12 other members

724
01:06:43,510 --> 01:06:51,250
of our district, and we wrote a report on the IWUIC of that time, which it changes.

725
01:06:51,930 --> 01:06:57,510
But we found there were many, many restrictions in there that were absolutely impossible to

726
01:06:57,510 --> 01:07:05,450
comply with, and I have that review, although it's somewhat outdated, so may not be that functional,

727
01:07:05,570 --> 01:07:13,910
but I do find that the IWIC is very hard to apply in our mountain district. We have a lot of specifics

728
01:07:13,910 --> 01:07:23,110
that need to be addressed individually. The principal space too is the best thing there is for stopping

729
01:07:23,110 --> 01:07:25,930
a structure fire in the wildfire,

730
01:07:28,270 --> 01:07:33,170
but to make it mandatory only for new constructions

731
01:07:33,170 --> 01:07:36,330
creates a situation which I've written you about.

732
01:07:36,610 --> 01:07:42,350
I don't see how that will be, without more discussion, to make this fair.

733
01:07:42,750 --> 01:07:44,330
I don't think it will be fair.

734
01:07:44,530 --> 01:07:45,830
I think it will lead to a lot of problems.

735
01:07:47,230 --> 01:07:52,150
So those are the reasons we asked you for delay, so we could review this with our community.

736
01:07:53,330 --> 01:07:56,530
I welcome any questions and pardon me if I'm a little bit nervous.

737
01:07:56,730 --> 01:07:57,710
I always get a little nervous up here.

738
01:07:58,730 --> 01:08:03,670
But I appreciate the opportunity to talk with you, and I do appreciate what Cassidy

739
01:08:03,670 --> 01:08:08,470
and Heather are in the name of safety in the community are trying to do, but I do think it

740
01:08:08,470 --> 01:08:10,030
needs to be refined a little bit more.

741
01:08:10,510 --> 01:08:14,150
And some of the wrinkles need to be ironed out, because I see some of them in there.

742
01:08:14,870 --> 01:08:15,490
Thank you.

743
01:08:15,910 --> 01:08:17,050
I have a couple of all too.

744
01:08:17,370 --> 01:08:17,450
Okay.

745
01:08:17,690 --> 01:08:18,410
Let me go to the first.

746
01:08:18,410 --> 01:08:25,350
First. Thank you very much for joining us. I appreciate it. So, am I understanding you correctly

747
01:08:25,350 --> 01:08:31,670
that your fire chief participated in the community process, but your fire chief chose to not

748
01:08:31,670 --> 01:08:38,050
share that information with the fire board and the community? He actually chose to

749
01:08:38,950 --> 01:08:46,130
intentionally deny that information. He's no longer our fire chief. He was dismissed recently.

750
01:08:49,350 --> 01:08:55,570
Okay. Thank you very much. And I'm sorry, congratulations on your election three times.

751
01:08:55,810 --> 01:08:58,670
I'm sorry for, it sounds like it's been an interesting process.

752
01:08:59,050 --> 01:09:04,770
It has been very, it's always interesting. So help me understand six of the six-month period.

753
01:09:06,830 --> 01:09:12,750
Why would it not be okay for us to delay for a week? Your fire board get together

754
01:09:13,550 --> 01:09:19,950
Thursday night, review it, and then get back to us and then we can bring this back up again next week.

755
01:09:20,510 --> 01:09:25,970
I'm not understanding the six months feels like a long time.

756
01:09:26,750 --> 01:09:32,010
I can't speak for everybody on the board and their schedules, but we're all volunteers.

757
01:09:32,650 --> 01:09:36,030
The community has not had a chance to review this.

758
01:09:36,690 --> 01:09:40,770
We've had meetings on the 6th of August, the 18th of August,

759
01:09:40,770 --> 01:09:48,490
The first of September, the 15th, I think, or the 14th of September, we have another meeting in two days where we're just swamped.

760
01:09:48,970 --> 01:09:49,750
That's one reason.

761
01:09:52,010 --> 01:09:53,730
Actually, those are a couple of reasons right there.

762
01:09:54,030 --> 01:09:59,010
It takes time to review this. I have not even read it all. It changes a little bit.

763
01:09:59,630 --> 01:10:07,730
I have read some alarming portions of it. I'm not against any particular thing. I don't know yet. I have to really sit down.

764
01:10:07,730 --> 01:10:20,170
These rules and regs are pretty easy just to say, yeah, adopt them, but sometimes the effects can be a little obscure and long and far reaching.

765
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:33,030
So that's why it's a dramatic development regulation that could really have an effect on many people's properties and on the environment.

766
01:10:33,030 --> 01:10:35,910
and some of the road standards sometimes can create,

767
01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:37,730
instead of a road that goes like this,

768
01:10:38,230 --> 01:10:39,510
it creates a road that does this,

769
01:10:39,670 --> 01:10:40,710
and then we have a new problem

770
01:10:41,070 --> 01:10:42,690
that the community doesn't like,

771
01:10:42,890 --> 01:10:44,430
that the mountains are getting all scarred up.

772
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:48,260
Good question.

773
01:10:48,820 --> 01:10:51,680
Well, I'm not good, but okay, go ahead.

774
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,640
Okay, thanks so much, Mr. Green, for coming.

775
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:55,780
You're welcome, thank you for the question.

776
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:57,720
Yeah, your comments and some of the concerns

777
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:58,680
that you're raising with us.

778
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:00,760
I think all three of us received the emails

779
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,160
that you heard, Commissioner Kraftarp,

780
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:03,660
mentioned a little bit earlier,

781
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:04,700
calling for the delay,

782
01:11:04,700 --> 01:11:14,700
But what was less clear, and I appreciate you're coming here today to fill in the gap, is why there was resistance and why there was an ask for a six month delay.

783
01:11:15,300 --> 01:11:17,640
I want to ask if, Cass, go ahead.

784
01:11:17,860 --> 01:11:21,660
I didn't understand what you didn't understand. Why there was resistance?

785
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:27,820
What I'm saying is that we got a lot of emails probably, and by a lot, I mean, six, seven, somewhere in that range.

786
01:11:27,820 --> 01:11:32,880
And the emails were all the same email and each email said something to the extent of

787
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:34,980
can you delay it or we have concerns.

788
01:11:35,460 --> 01:11:42,240
And so with one of the emails I responded and said can you say more about the why behind

789
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:42,740
your concerns.

790
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:47,940
So I just want to share that comment with you and some of the feedback one person shared

791
01:11:47,940 --> 01:11:52,600
nothing specific just at first glance it appears there are some proposed changes that effectively

792
01:11:53,180 --> 01:11:57,860
Effectively, stop new construction because of onerous creating two classes, newbies and

793
01:11:57,860 --> 01:11:58,960
old-grandfathered residents.

794
01:11:59,460 --> 01:12:03,800
I would like to just take a moment to pull up those two slides that you have that talk

795
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:08,300
about the changes that we're making, and I'd love to go through that just with you for a moment

796
01:12:08,300 --> 01:12:13,020
because I do hear what you're saying about the ivory codes, and in fact, I was at a conference,

797
01:12:13,060 --> 01:12:19,480
a two-day conference that's going on today in Colorado Springs with folks from ICC, fire

798
01:12:19,480 --> 01:12:45,520
our chiefs, community fire ambassadors and more, and while we're pulling up the slide with that information, I think that you're right, there are aspects of the will we code that require more work and in fact in Colorado, what we typically see our counties like Jefferson County, Boulder and others continuing to work with our fire chiefs and our communities to tailor aspects of the will we code that really work best for our communities.

799
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:55,640
We adopted a Pentex Z working with fire chiefs, developers are building director and others to really kind of think those those points through at the same time.

800
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,700
A lot of what's being proposed, we have this slide we could pull up for that.

801
01:12:59,140 --> 01:13:04,060
A lot of I'm just sort of stretching here while we're waiting for it, although it's relevant.

802
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:13,500
A lot of these issues that are proposed are really pretty standard components and for me and this is what I want to balance here.

803
01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:30,400
I mean, I would be open to considering holding off for a week, but six months seems awfully long, and here's why we're, as you know, we're the number one county in the state at risk for property loss due to wildfire risk.

804
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:35,080
We have some of the most extreme areas in the state right here in Jefferson County.

805
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:46,480
So I think there's a sense of urgency and we've also really dealt a deep dive with our task force which came back with several recommendations to the Board of County Commissioners.

806
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:57,240
What you see proposed came out of two years worth of work with that task force to really look at ways that were responsible and

807
01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:02,700
reflected best practice to help address greater defensible space, ignition resistant materials

808
01:14:02,700 --> 01:14:07,620
and more. And we've got to start somewhere. So that's part of the balance that I'm thinking

809
01:14:07,620 --> 01:14:14,840
of here. Is everything going to be perfect? No. But for me, this isn't opening a can of

810
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:20,240
worms or bigger questions. I feel like these are really pretty reasonable efforts that some

811
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:25,280
counties have already adopted. So as we look through some of these, I'm just wondering if

812
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:33,240
If there are any, even on this first slide, you know, the landscaping and 10 feet within

813
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:38,600
power poles, malt, is there anything that raises a red flag for you on this particular

814
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,960
screen, just that you want us to be aware of?

815
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:48,460
My main concern initially with what I wrote you initially, and when I wrote you that, I was

816
01:14:48,460 --> 01:14:56,800
writing you as from myself, which was creating a two-tiered system of punishments or fines where

817
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,980
where the principal space became mandatory for new consumers.

818
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:27,200
I see, but I haven't discussed this with the whole board. This is a pretty deep discussion. I see this as becoming a situation where one neighbor can pick on another neighbor. One neighbor that rules don't apply and the other neighbor does, but yet the neighbor who may be calling up about the property that he wants to report may have a worse situation, but those rules don't apply to him.

819
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:31,780
I don't understand how that can be enforced fairly.

820
01:15:33,180 --> 01:15:34,440
I've had a problem with that.

821
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,280
Now, maybe that's been removed, but I don't believe it has.

822
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:42,300
No, I think it's a critical component of some of the best practices

823
01:15:42,300 --> 01:15:47,100
we've seen in terms of helping to reduce wildfire risk in our rowy communities.

824
01:15:47,580 --> 01:15:48,340
Let me ask you this.

825
01:15:48,500 --> 01:15:51,140
Does Golden Gate have a fire ambassadors program?

826
01:15:51,940 --> 01:15:53,800
Are you a fire adapted community?

827
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:55,780
Do you have fire wise?

828
01:15:56,360 --> 01:16:12,880
Okay, we participate that in that we also have a community well for protection plan. We've been quite progressive on this. We've had a study by anchor point. We paid for we've had another study by Jefferson County, which was basically a copy of the anchor point study with a slight modifications.

829
01:16:15,020 --> 01:16:42,860
We are also very active community, if you haven't heard from other communities, our community has a central building where we meet, we discuss, it's always been a fairly informed community, and we don't have 6000 people in our community, we have, I believe it's under 1000, which may be slightly more affluent, slightly more aware, slightly more involved, although we still have an issue of people being involved.

830
01:16:42,860 --> 01:16:46,680
like you know throughout government, it's hard to get people involved.

831
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:53,280
They are after the fact, but they had a time, here I am, on the vault, and some other members.

832
01:16:53,480 --> 01:17:00,180
And part of the reason I asked too is, and I really appreciate the work that you all are doing to reduce wildfire risk in your community.

833
01:17:00,460 --> 01:17:09,160
And there's similar strategies that we see in Conifer and Evergreen and Pine and other parts of the high wildfire risk area in Jefferson County.

834
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:16,380
And to my mind, it's not an either or for me it's all of the above in terms of best practices

835
01:17:16,380 --> 01:17:21,860
that we know help ensure to the best of our ability that a home owner has a home to

836
01:17:21,860 --> 01:17:27,380
come back to, that the local economy isn't disrupted or simply obliterated as we saw in

837
01:17:27,380 --> 01:17:32,140
campfire, that people can still get insurance which of course is a continued issue.

838
01:17:32,660 --> 01:17:37,340
So as we've worked with the task force over the last two years, we've really thought hard

839
01:17:37,340 --> 01:17:40,100
about what mitigation looks like in the county,

840
01:17:40,980 --> 01:17:43,420
inviting people to share their thoughts on that.

841
01:17:43,580 --> 01:17:44,420
What does that look like?

842
01:17:44,540 --> 01:17:46,200
What are we learning from fire ambassadors

843
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,160
in different fire adaptive communities like yours as well?

844
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:54,240
So, for me, this represents some of that really good,

845
01:17:54,480 --> 01:17:59,220
thoughtful approach with not trying to be overly burdensome

846
01:17:59,220 --> 01:18:02,120
or onerous and far from it in that approach.

847
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:05,340
So, I really appreciate the comments

848
01:18:05,340 --> 01:18:07,320
that you shared with us this morning.

849
01:18:07,460 --> 01:18:09,240
And I just wanted to dig in a little bit deeper

850
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:12,000
to see if there was anything in what you were seeing.

851
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:13,880
And if we could go to the next slide as well.

852
01:18:14,420 --> 01:18:16,360
You know, I have a hard time reading that.

853
01:18:16,480 --> 01:18:17,720
I'm writing the age work.

854
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:19,920
You have to be closer like classes.

855
01:18:20,380 --> 01:18:22,220
No, I'm further and bigger letters.

856
01:18:22,700 --> 01:18:24,000
I do. No, I understand.

857
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:25,400
I understand completely.

858
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:26,560
That helps.

859
01:18:28,340 --> 01:18:31,800
So I just, some of this feels fairly straightforward.

860
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:33,680
But I just wanted to make sure I'm not missing anything

861
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,740
in terms of the concern you're raising before we take a vote on this.

862
01:18:37,220 --> 01:18:39,440
Yes, please, please, any thoughts?

863
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:47,600
As less than a year ago, we saw 1,000 homes in superior burn down, of which I know two people

864
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:48,280
who lost their homes.

865
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:57,460
And we were all shocked and surprised because that's an urban area or sub-urban, where the

866
01:18:57,460 --> 01:19:01,740
houses are very close and the fire departments are close and the infrastructure is good.

867
01:19:01,740 --> 01:19:07,400
But up in the wooly, as we call it, the Wellland Urban Interface, it's very different.

868
01:19:07,900 --> 01:19:10,880
The houses are very separated from each other.

869
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:14,220
In our district, majority of people have 35 or more acres.

870
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:16,660
It's a very different situation.

871
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:24,180
I feel, although I can't say what your feelings are, that the superior fire has caused this

872
01:19:24,180 --> 01:19:25,180
to come to the forefront.

873
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:30,920
But I would like to remind you, they're very, very different situations, the WUI, and

874
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:35,900
what happened that day in that very windy day, and that very tightly constructed community.

875
01:19:35,900 --> 01:19:38,320
I say tightly with the buildings are very close together.

876
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,680
I would not argue with the vegetable space.

877
01:19:42,780 --> 01:19:45,400
I have it around all of my structures in my property.

878
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:53,300
I don't see though how you can mandate it on new and not on the old.

879
01:19:53,820 --> 01:19:56,560
And I'm not positive you should mandate on the old either.

880
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,840
I think education is really important.

881
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,740
Okay, I appreciate that perspective.

882
01:20:03,740 --> 01:20:10,500
I'll also add that Chief DeFeo was on our task force and also represented Golden Gate

883
01:20:10,500 --> 01:20:13,300
community as a member of that task force as well.

884
01:20:13,700 --> 01:20:17,700
But I will say that what we need to do is we need to look at the big picture.

885
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:23,460
And first and foremost, one of our top priorities is how do we keep our community safe, not only

886
01:20:23,460 --> 01:20:25,540
in Jefferson County, but across Colorado.

887
01:20:25,540 --> 01:20:32,600
because this issue isn't going away, we're going to continue to see growth and development in the wooey and population.

888
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:41,380
You know, the secrets out people love living in these forested areas, but we need to protect homes, lives, local businesses and more.

889
01:20:41,820 --> 01:20:45,760
So I just share that with you because for me there's a real sense of urgency about this work.

890
01:20:46,220 --> 01:20:52,760
And if this was something we had only thought about for a week or two as opposed to working with our task force on for two years or more,

891
01:20:53,500 --> 01:21:07,960
I might have, I might feel differently, I suppose I would be open if there's a motion to bring this back next Tuesday to give you some more time to look at it, but I'm certainly open to that conversation.

892
01:21:08,340 --> 01:21:17,800
But for me there is a sense of urgency in terms of moving forward with what is just basic best practice in terms of this effort, just to see where I'm coming from.

893
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:23,340
I would just like to add that rules themselves aren't making things safer.

894
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:29,840
It's the actions of people and if we just sometimes rules can really have

895
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:37,800
a owners effect on values and the communities and we can get top heavy on the rules.

896
01:21:39,260 --> 01:21:45,920
We have not had and I hope pretty God that we don't a measure wildfire come through our community.

897
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:52,840
We have seen them in other communities, but they have other distinguishing differences in ours.

898
01:21:53,340 --> 01:21:58,660
I do still think you should let it up to the fire districts to make these choices for

899
01:21:58,660 --> 01:22:01,440
the people who live in their districts and the stakeholders.

900
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:07,420
I don't believe, although you speak about the task force, we were not included.

901
01:22:09,890 --> 01:22:12,710
That's, people don't know what's going on in our community.

902
01:22:12,710 --> 01:22:22,410
Not until they're getting informed, I've informed them, they're concerned that rules could be passed that are really prohibitive to any development whatsoever.

903
01:22:23,570 --> 01:22:30,830
And the task force, at least our chief did not inform the board, the board never discussed it, on new on the board again, back on the board.

904
01:22:31,390 --> 01:22:40,990
And it wasn't discussed, so it may have been two years of task force discussion, but they omitted a key element stakeholders.

905
01:22:40,990 --> 01:22:42,010
Great.

906
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,620
Thank you very much. I appreciate all your time.

907
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:57,240
We do have one person to testify online, Julie Ramsteader. Julie, are you there?

908
01:22:58,500 --> 01:22:59,700
Yes, I'm here.

909
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:04,860
Great. Let's get you sworn in and then you can move forward.

910
01:23:06,540 --> 01:23:12,220
Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole

911
01:23:12,220 --> 01:23:14,920
truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God.

912
01:23:15,420 --> 01:23:15,860
I do.

913
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:21,040
May I please have you state your name and spell it as well as your address for the record.

914
01:23:22,020 --> 01:23:28,460
Julie, J-U-L-I-E, Ramsteader, R-A-M-S-T-E-T-T-E-R.

915
01:23:29,540 --> 01:23:39,340
and the address is 261 Golden Gate Canyon Road, and that's AO 403.

916
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,000
Great. Thank you. You have three minutes. Please go ahead.

917
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:55,920
I am representing myself as a homeowner, and although I do volunteer to help out the board,

918
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:59,780
I do not represent the board at this meeting.

919
01:24:01,700 --> 01:24:12,500
One of my concerns with this proposal on the 10-foot restriction of power on power poles,

920
01:24:13,580 --> 01:24:19,100
can you explain to me because I have multiple acres,

921
01:24:19,100 --> 01:24:29,140
and I can't pay a thousand dollars per tree and have bushes removed from these

922
01:24:29,140 --> 01:24:37,880
power poles that are across multiple acres and just kind of an FYI and this is

923
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:46,280
me being a little emotional but this isn't the wooie this is my home and it's been

924
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:53,100
in my family since 1860 so don't

925
01:24:55,340 --> 01:24:58,680
this is a problem I am all about

926
01:25:00,900 --> 01:25:07,480
defensible space but if you're gonna begin I need to have a garage build so

927
01:25:07,480 --> 01:25:12,620
and are you gonna tell me in order to have my garage built I have to cut ten

928
01:25:12,620 --> 01:25:21,580
feet of trees and bushes and all this away from the power lines? I can't do that.

929
01:25:24,540 --> 01:25:25,740
So my question is

930
01:25:25,740 --> 01:25:36,300
am I misunderstanding this or how would you propose people like me and know I agree with Steve

931
01:25:36,300 --> 01:25:46,300
There are a lot of affluent people up here, but there are also a plural hillbillies that have

932
01:25:46,300 --> 01:25:50,420
been up here forever that don't have money coming out at our ears.

933
01:25:56,010 --> 01:25:57,230
So that's all I have to say.

934
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:06,840
Great. Thank you, Miss Rams, that we will ask our staff when we get to that point

935
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:12,120
to answer your questions as best as possible.

936
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:13,700
Just double check.

937
01:26:14,260 --> 01:26:17,300
It was there any other information you wanted to pass along?

938
01:26:19,700 --> 01:26:24,620
I just wanted to let you know that we hadn't been informed.

939
01:26:25,220 --> 01:26:27,880
And I get it that that Jeff Co. does its best.

940
01:26:30,100 --> 01:26:34,580
And they put out these notices on the websites and stuff.

941
01:26:34,580 --> 01:26:45,020
We don't have, there's a requirement in our district that the board and the chief send out a newsletter.

942
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:50,420
Well, there's been a big shake up as you know the fire chief is gone.

943
01:26:51,100 --> 01:26:56,180
But in the past, we have not had that newsletter so nobody knows what's going on.

944
01:26:56,180 --> 01:27:03,860
And this just came to our attention. So yes, we get that you guys have done your due diligence.

945
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,600
We're just asking for a little more time.

946
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:10,460
I get that six months is a lot.

947
01:27:11,220 --> 01:27:22,440
But I also understand that one week is a lot too for for the current board members and the current fire in term fire chief.

948
01:27:22,440 --> 01:27:40,940
As they have other jobs as well and with the big shakeup that's going on with the fire department, there's everybody has so much more on their plate trying to get things smoothed out.

949
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:46,480
So that's all I'm saying if we could get a little more time.

950
01:27:47,440 --> 01:27:53,680
but I do understand what you're saying about six months is long time. I just, in my opinion,

951
01:27:54,520 --> 01:28:01,660
one week is not enough. I think we should at least get to, but that's my opinion.

952
01:28:02,500 --> 01:28:09,640
Great. Thank you very much. We appreciate your testimony. Is there anyone else who would like to

953
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:18,460
provide public testimony on this case. And there's no one in the room, just double check online,

954
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:24,360
doesn't look like we have anyone online. So public testimony on this issue is now closed.

955
01:28:25,540 --> 01:28:35,740
I will ask Heather and Cassidy if there's some information we can share to answer some of the

956
01:28:35,740 --> 01:28:36,640
questions you've heard?

957
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:39,180
Absolutely. Thank you so much, Chairman.

958
01:28:40,100 --> 01:28:42,460
I would first like to start this by saying,

959
01:28:43,020 --> 01:28:47,640
any input of how we can better achieve communication

960
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:50,420
with the community is always welcome.

961
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:54,920
I know in planning and zoning it is critical to what we do

962
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:56,300
to receive public input.

963
01:28:56,580 --> 01:28:59,680
So, if there's any mention of how we can do it better,

964
01:28:59,940 --> 01:29:04,340
is it do we publish the notify me things and push that more?

965
01:29:04,340 --> 01:29:07,600
or any input would be incredible to the community.

966
01:29:07,980 --> 01:29:09,080
I just wanted to put that out there.

967
01:29:09,340 --> 01:29:12,300
So, I want to address a few things.

968
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:14,600
Mr. Green is correct that these standards

969
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:18,140
in the I-WUE could be imposing

970
01:29:18,140 --> 01:29:20,120
on the mountain community in Jefferson County.

971
01:29:20,340 --> 01:29:25,200
There's a reason why we have not put in a blanket regulation update

972
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,780
just adopting all of the codes within the I-WUE.

973
01:29:28,940 --> 01:29:30,740
That is why we have picked certain standards

974
01:29:30,740 --> 01:29:36,380
within the IWUE that we think can elevate the wildfire protection within Jefferson County.

975
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:41,160
We are continuing to look at that document that is something that we would like to look at

976
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:46,280
quite a bit with the RFP and see how it can be applied through research through the county

977
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:51,780
and other ways that we don't see as staff without staff's time. So the ones the things that are

978
01:29:51,780 --> 01:29:58,180
proposed right now from the IWUE we think are the most applicable and most seamless transition type

979
01:29:58,180 --> 01:29:58,740
Thanks.

980
01:30:00,750 --> 01:30:26,210
So, there was a comment about the changes from the planning commission. Nothing was added to the regulation. There were no red marks from the planning commission taken here. It was just a removal of that transportation design and construction manual language because of the concerns that we heard. We do note that there does need to be more work with that language before it gets adopted by you all board county commissioners.

981
01:30:27,930 --> 01:30:31,430
So I want to make a comment about the defensible space standards.

982
01:30:32,010 --> 01:30:35,990
The standards requiring defensible space for building permits was originally put into

983
01:30:35,990 --> 01:30:38,830
place and adopted by the Board of County Commissioners in 1995.

984
01:30:40,010 --> 01:30:42,330
So that has been in place for quite some time.

985
01:30:42,790 --> 01:30:48,710
It wasn't until last year that we put it into place for detached structures and additions

986
01:30:49,290 --> 01:30:50,430
of any size.

987
01:30:50,430 --> 01:30:56,790
before it was for additions over 400 square feet or new single family dwellings.

988
01:30:57,150 --> 01:31:02,130
So we have we upped it last year to include detached structures, detached non-habitable living space,

989
01:31:02,490 --> 01:31:05,110
and any kind of addition like a deck.

990
01:31:07,710 --> 01:31:11,290
Concerning with Ramsteaders comments about the concerns about the 10-foot restrictions

991
01:31:11,290 --> 01:31:15,050
around power poles that would be onerous to homeowners, absolutely.

992
01:31:15,890 --> 01:31:19,250
So this language was added to the landscaping section of the zoning resolution,

993
01:31:19,250 --> 01:31:43,970
So it will be applicable at the time of site development plan, or applicable at the time of subdivision plat, so that that language will be applied to commercial developments or new single family dwelling or multi-family dwelling subdivisions that come in, it will not be something that is applied at the time of building permit for a single home owner.

994
01:31:44,750 --> 01:31:59,950
Right, so to clarify, if Miss Ramsteader had power poles going through her property and there was vegetation less than 10 feet from those power poles, she would not be required under what we're voting on today to mitigate that and to pay for it.

995
01:32:00,190 --> 01:32:09,950
This deals only with new development moving forward to ensure that we're being smart about where we place vegetation and it's not close up to those power poles.

996
01:32:09,950 --> 01:32:12,190
Okay, that's really helpful, thank you, of course.

997
01:32:13,570 --> 01:32:17,730
That is what I have, and just to reiterate again, the road standards that we're discussed

998
01:32:17,730 --> 01:32:20,930
with in the testimony have been removed from consideration today.

999
01:32:22,130 --> 01:32:26,490
Which helps with Mr. Green's concern about, you know, would there be switchbacks and what

1000
01:32:26,490 --> 01:32:29,830
would that look like on, you know, given that more steep topography?

1001
01:32:30,250 --> 01:32:30,430
That's good.

1002
01:32:30,450 --> 01:32:30,990
Okay, great.

1003
01:32:31,190 --> 01:32:31,510
Thank you.

1004
01:32:36,860 --> 01:32:41,120
I did have two questions.

1005
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:50,680
Cassidy, you mentioned in your original presentation that there are things we can't here in Jefferson County.

1006
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:52,920
We can't consider in the IWUE.

1007
01:32:53,820 --> 01:33:03,540
Can you be a little more specific about what those things are that are in the IWUE that we don't consider here in Jeffco?

1008
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:08,120
I think Mr. Green might have mentioned at least one.

1009
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:09,860
Yeah, it's the water standards.

1010
01:33:11,460 --> 01:33:17,260
So there's quite a bit in the eye, will we, that we need to think about more and maybe

1011
01:33:17,260 --> 01:33:24,140
use as a structure for our regulation, but change certain details that might make it better

1012
01:33:24,140 --> 01:33:25,820
and more applicable to Jefferson County.

1013
01:33:26,180 --> 01:33:33,460
What Mr. Green mentioned about the water standards, it essentially is a requirement for how

1014
01:33:33,460 --> 01:33:37,860
much a well produces and a well must produce X amount and I'm so sorry I don't want to

1015
01:33:37,860 --> 01:33:42,940
state the number because I do not want to state it incorrectly but it is an astronomically

1016
01:33:42,940 --> 01:33:48,220
high number compared to the wells that produce in the county. When we started looking at

1017
01:33:48,220 --> 01:33:52,460
the regulations I pulled some well permits that I had recently looked at for a building

1018
01:33:52,460 --> 01:33:57,860
permit and there was no well that even came close to producing what the I will be requested

1019
01:33:57,860 --> 01:34:06,000
it produce for fire protection measures. So that is something that we know will be restrictive

1020
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:10,580
in building in the mountain community, and we know that wells and our aquifers cannot produce

1021
01:34:10,580 --> 01:34:17,620
to that amount. So that is something that we will not be taking forward because it is almost impossible.

1022
01:34:18,100 --> 01:34:23,460
But we can take that kind of structure in that section of the eye and look at components of that

1023
01:34:23,460 --> 01:34:27,980
fire mitigation to ask our fire protection districts, what regulations can we potentially

1024
01:34:27,980 --> 01:34:32,340
put into place that assist you in this kind of fire protection mechanism.

1025
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:37,640
So, I will use a great guiding document for us, but it is not something that we intend

1026
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:42,220
on recommending that you all put into place entirely.

1027
01:34:43,700 --> 01:34:55,220
All right. Thank you. And I think it's the previous slide. It's the fourth bullet that

1028
01:34:55,220 --> 01:35:02,940
talks about this. Yeah, that one at the Zone 1 Defensible Space that should be completed

1029
01:35:02,940 --> 01:35:09,720
around driveways since the section three materials around roads. You're saying we're not going

1030
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:16,560
to be that have been pulled out but this around driveways is still in that is correct okay I'm

1031
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:25,540
just trying to get the fine point between what's on with the driveways and in roadways so roadways

1032
01:35:25,540 --> 01:35:34,060
is out driveways is in yes and this will be essentially 10 feet of fire mitigation on either side of

1033
01:35:34,060 --> 01:35:38,340
a driveway that will be completed by the wildfire

1034
01:35:38,340 --> 01:35:41,640
interface fire specialist at the time of their inspections,

1035
01:35:41,940 --> 01:35:43,300
their initial and final inspections.

1036
01:35:44,140 --> 01:35:44,260
Great.

1037
01:35:48,100 --> 01:35:55,820
And I just, I'll just say that as far as the,

1038
01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:01,120
this is an issue between having new regulations

1039
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:17,140
that to a certain degree apply to new construction and Mr. Green, what you brought up about neighbors who have been there and new neighbors coming in and how all that works.

1040
01:36:17,860 --> 01:36:22,960
And it seems to me I'm dividing this. There are three possibilities.

1041
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:33,500
Either we keep everyone under the current standards, which I don't think protects our communities.

1042
01:36:35,480 --> 01:36:44,820
We make everyone, we make new regulations applicable to everyone and I'm guessing that our

1043
01:36:44,820 --> 01:36:52,620
county attorney might have some things to say to me if we try to tell people who have

1044
01:36:52,620 --> 01:37:02,180
owned their land as long as Julie's family has owned land that to force a bunch of new

1045
01:37:02,180 --> 01:37:09,020
regulations on long-term property owners, there would be some serious issues with that.

1046
01:37:09,260 --> 01:37:17,340
Although personally, I think that would probably make our communities as safe the safest we possibly

1047
01:37:17,340 --> 01:37:24,740
could. The third alternative is somewhere in between and it sounds like we've been working

1048
01:37:24,740 --> 01:37:36,280
in that space already around new construction being subject to slightly different regulations.

1049
01:37:36,900 --> 01:37:42,340
And we've already been operating in that space. I think we need to continue operating in that

1050
01:37:42,340 --> 01:37:50,400
that space might not be exactly where, if I were in charge, I would have a speed, but

1051
01:37:51,340 --> 01:37:54,940
so with that, commissioners, other questions or comments?

1052
01:37:55,540 --> 01:37:56,460
Yes, thank you.

1053
01:37:56,700 --> 01:37:57,420
Commissioner Cretler.

1054
01:37:57,780 --> 01:38:00,300
Thank you very much for all the work that you all have done.

1055
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:02,880
This is a real dilemma for me on one half.

1056
01:38:03,480 --> 01:38:05,840
On one hand, I really support all the work that you've done.

1057
01:38:06,060 --> 01:38:07,860
I understand that you've had community meetings.

1058
01:38:07,860 --> 01:38:13,560
people gave input at meetings that you felt like you really had the community support.

1059
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:20,180
You've done a lot of work on this. Fire is absolutely a high priority.

1060
01:38:20,540 --> 01:38:22,740
Fire prevention is a high priority in our community.

1061
01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:28,980
Waiting six months pushes us into a new fire season.

1062
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:32,440
I mean, I understand all those pieces.

1063
01:38:32,440 --> 01:38:39,520
I just can't move forward with a community saying we didn't have the opportunity to have

1064
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:39,780
input.

1065
01:38:41,180 --> 01:38:46,980
Six months is just not reasonable if we were to look at a month.

1066
01:38:47,500 --> 01:38:52,260
I think that that gives time for people who even are volunteers, even are working, doing

1067
01:38:52,260 --> 01:38:55,480
this as a second job, to be able to pull a meeting together,

1068
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:02,420
to be able to pull a town

1069
01:39:02,420 --> 01:39:05,600
I would, I just think that that would be pretty reasonable.

1070
01:39:06,480 --> 01:39:11,020
So as much as it pains me, I just want to let my colleagues know as the motion maker,

1071
01:39:11,220 --> 01:39:14,300
I'm not going to be able to make a motion on this item.

1072
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:19,300
And if you all make a motion, I would anticipate I may not be able to support it.

1073
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:31,340
Any other questions or comments?

1074
01:39:52,820 --> 01:39:59,580
I'm getting some feedback about what we already have scheduled for next week.

1075
01:39:59,580 --> 01:40:11,800
week. And I understand that that would still be a little bit quick. In certain cases,

1076
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:25,340
I do feel like we do need to move ahead. So I would offer up that doing the one week

1077
01:40:25,340 --> 01:40:36,460
delay, allowing people to send us more feedback, possibly get questions answered from planning

1078
01:40:36,460 --> 01:40:44,940
and zoning if needed. For example, the questions that Ms. Ramsteader brought up, I believe

1079
01:40:45,620 --> 01:40:53,360
were addressed here. Since our testimony is closed, I can't confirm that, but it sounds

1080
01:40:53,360 --> 01:41:10,180
It sounds like that question at least was answered and it seems like we do have some space on our agenda for next week, next Tuesday that we might be able to fit this in.

1081
01:41:10,180 --> 01:41:17,820
So, I would put out there if someone would like to make a motion to move this out one week

1082
01:41:17,820 --> 01:41:22,920
and also pointing out that we are,

1083
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:32,340
that some of the regulations, especially around Section

1084
01:41:32,340 --> 01:41:40,320
3 have already been, I don't know if remanded is exactly the right word but some of the regulations

1085
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:50,960
that were brought up before the Planning Commission have been taken off the item that we have been asked to vote on today.

1086
01:41:51,980 --> 01:41:59,880
So with that, I will ask if there is a motion for hearing regular agenda item 12.1.

1087
01:42:01,700 --> 01:42:04,960
Chair, let me just ask a quick follow, clarifying question.

1088
01:42:05,180 --> 01:42:09,540
I'm open to moving this to next week and making that motion.

1089
01:42:09,860 --> 01:42:15,940
I just want to understand we've closed public comment or public testimony on this issue.

1090
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:19,020
Will we be reopening it next Tuesday?

1091
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:23,840
And I certainly think if people want to speak to the board, we should have that option available.

1092
01:42:24,440 --> 01:42:30,300
It would be my intention to reopen public testimony on this item next week.

1093
01:42:30,620 --> 01:42:32,460
Perfect, and I support that as well.

1094
01:42:33,300 --> 01:42:37,240
So I'd like to, do you want to make a comment before I do make a motion?

1095
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:37,700
Okay.

1096
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:48,000
So I appreciate that we're looking at, not moving this forward today, but we've heard from

1097
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:51,680
the Golden Gate Fire Board that one week is not reasonable.

1098
01:42:52,740 --> 01:43:01,460
So to move forward, to do one week is not helpful, which is why I had suggested to look at something that might be a little more reasonable.

1099
01:43:02,820 --> 01:43:08,880
I mean, if we were to say we had to do a community meeting and come up, you know, within a week, it would be hard for us.

1100
01:43:10,180 --> 01:43:19,540
So, I want to suggest, like, whereas six months is too long, I think a week we've already

1101
01:43:19,540 --> 01:43:21,780
heard from them doesn't work.

1102
01:43:22,620 --> 01:43:24,240
So, a couple of reactions to that.

1103
01:43:24,300 --> 01:43:28,420
I'm happy to make a motion to move this out to next Tuesday and then also ensuring that

1104
01:43:28,420 --> 01:43:30,460
we're opening it up to any public testimony.

1105
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:35,780
I think the couple of concerns that we heard here today have already been addressed by planning

1106
01:43:35,780 --> 01:43:40,580
and zoning, which is exactly why we take this opportunity to hear from our public about concerns

1107
01:43:40,580 --> 01:43:42,180
that you have so we can address them.

1108
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:44,900
The concern about the power poles came up.

1109
01:43:45,020 --> 01:43:51,360
We address that, that's new development only as part of planning and other development

1110
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:53,980
plans that come before us regarding the power poles.

1111
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:58,920
We also address the roads, that's been taken out, and further work is going to be done on

1112
01:43:58,920 --> 01:43:59,460
that issue.

1113
01:43:59,460 --> 01:44:09,920
And so I would like to move that item 12.1 is move to our agenda next Tuesday to allow

1114
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:15,560
anyone in our community, including the Golden Gate community, to look at some of the

1115
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:21,580
proposed revisions to policy that have been stated here this morning and to please come

1116
01:44:21,580 --> 01:44:26,880
back with any thoughts that you might have next Tuesday or certainly to email or contact

1117
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:32,640
with any questions you may have, and I would also extend that invitation, of course, to everyone in our community.

1118
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:38,300
Again, to me, it would be different if this was an issue we just started working on.

1119
01:44:38,460 --> 01:44:41,740
It's been in the works for some time, it's based on best practice.

1120
01:44:42,180 --> 01:44:48,620
Regarding communities in the Rui and we very much want to make sure that we're engaging our community every step of the way.

1121
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:53,160
There's no question about that, and that's why I think it is really important to reopen public testimony.

1122
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:59,680
If you can't be here either in person or virtually you can always reach us by phone directly or certainly by email.

1123
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:07,820
And the more information you can share if you're for against or you have questions, the better. So with that, that is my motion.

1124
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:31,800
And I'm going to second that motion. And the reason why is that I'm going back through my going back through my email and trying to say it's, it's been several weeks since we've been getting emails from whether

1125
01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:37,640
their board members or other folks who live in the Golden Gate Fire Protection about

1126
01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:39,060
this for several weeks.

1127
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:44,380
And most of the emails are very, very similar, if not exactly the same.

1128
01:45:44,980 --> 01:45:55,080
So there is an organization, a small organization out there around that are having this discussion.

1129
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:57,700
So I don't see this as we're just waiting a week.

1130
01:45:57,700 --> 01:46:05,540
There's already been several weeks of people in the Golden Gate Fire Protection District having these conversations,

1131
01:46:05,900 --> 01:46:13,060
sharing information with each other, gathering feedback, at least to the extent of sending information to us.

1132
01:46:13,300 --> 01:46:23,460
So I see that we've already been getting, we're not just waiting a week for more information, we've been getting feedback,

1133
01:46:23,460 --> 01:46:27,960
back, we've been getting information, so we're extending that one more week.

1134
01:46:29,660 --> 01:46:35,800
And I, well, I'll stop there at that point.

1135
01:46:36,140 --> 01:46:41,900
And Chair, can I just clarify for the record, the motion will be to continue item 12.1

1136
01:46:41,900 --> 01:46:48,480
until next Tuesday, and at that time, the board will reopen testimony on this matter.

1137
01:46:48,480 --> 01:46:57,220
That is correct. And encouraging folks to send questions to both the commissioners and planning

1138
01:46:57,220 --> 01:47:04,800
and zoning as early as possible so that those can be addressed when we reopen this next

1139
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:05,060
week.

1140
01:47:08,990 --> 01:47:14,610
Any other questions or comments? Okay, Ms. Glenn, will you please call the vote?

1141
01:47:15,550 --> 01:47:20,390
Commissioner Kratlar? No. Commissioner Dalkimper? Yes, Commissioner Kerr?

1142
01:47:20,390 --> 01:47:22,910
I, and that motion passes.

1143
01:47:23,790 --> 01:47:28,910
Next, we move on to, and first of all, thank you to everyone who has given us feedback.

1144
01:47:29,410 --> 01:47:35,130
Thank you to our staff who have presented this to us at this point.

1145
01:47:35,970 --> 01:47:43,750
And we look forward to continue information and feedback by next Tuesday.

1146
01:47:44,110 --> 01:47:44,550
Thank you.

1147
01:47:47,460 --> 01:47:50,180
Next, we move on to item 12.2.

1148
01:47:50,180 --> 01:47:55,280
Ms. Glenn, will you please read hearing agenda item 12.2 into the record.

1149
01:47:56,000 --> 01:48:14,100
Resolution CC22-266, case number 22-108-535RZ rezoning, case name 14405, West 52nd Avenue,

1150
01:48:14,100 --> 01:48:26,680
Official Development Plan, owner, Luciano Basnardo and Jennifer M. Skills, location 14405 West 52nd Avenue,

1151
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:35,940
approximate area 1.36 acres, purpose to rezone from suburban residential 1 to a planned

1152
01:48:35,940 --> 01:48:42,580
development based on restricted residential quarter acre to allow the future subdivision

1153
01:48:42,580 --> 01:48:49,460
of the property into three lots for single family detached units, case manager Fritz Clawson.

1154
01:48:50,900 --> 01:48:59,320
Great, thank you, and we will go to our planning and zoning division, Mr. Clawson, for a brief presentation on item 12.2.

1155
01:48:59,920 --> 01:49:03,060
Thank you. Oh, I just got my permission to share. Hang on.

1156
01:49:13,630 --> 01:49:21,710
Okay, yes, thank you. As stated, we are here to look at 1-4405, West 52nd Avenue Official Development Plan.

1157
01:49:21,710 --> 01:49:33,910
case number 22-108-535RZ located on West 52nd Avenue between Gladiola and

1158
01:49:33,910 --> 01:49:42,450
Eldridge. It's more zoomed out there West 52nd again Eldridge on the West and

1159
01:49:42,450 --> 01:49:49,750
Indiana over here. Oh wait, I'm sorry, I keep getting less backwards. Indiana on the

1160
01:49:49,750 --> 01:49:53,690
The West and Elterds on the East there, and there's the site on West 52nd.

1161
01:49:56,370 --> 01:50:03,570
The zoning surrounding the site, the property in question is currently zoned SR-1, suburban

1162
01:50:03,570 --> 01:50:04,350
residential one.

1163
01:50:04,670 --> 01:50:07,370
It's surrounded by properties with a variety of zoning.

1164
01:50:08,290 --> 01:50:19,070
North and East is the solar-green planned development, single-family homes, I believe it's

1165
01:50:19,070 --> 01:50:26,510
in the process of development, currently, to the West Agricultural, to zone the property

1166
01:50:26,510 --> 01:50:31,270
to the South, suburban residential one, and more blend development areas.

1167
01:50:33,550 --> 01:50:39,290
The request is to rezone to a blend development that will conform to the restricted residential

1168
01:50:39,290 --> 01:50:44,230
quarter acre, also known as RR-1 quarter, zone district of the zoning resolution.

1169
01:50:44,710 --> 01:50:49,470
It would cap the number of dwelling units on the property at three and require a minimum

1170
01:50:49,470 --> 01:50:57,270
modest size of 12,500 square feet, which is actually an increase from the restricted residential

1171
01:50:57,270 --> 01:51:07,010
one-quarter at 10,890. The rest of the standards would stay the same with an exception that

1172
01:51:07,010 --> 01:51:12,630
I'll get to in just a second. The current zoning versus the proposed zoning

1173
01:51:12,630 --> 01:51:17,690
see on the chart up here. Current zoning is allows for single-family detached residential

1174
01:51:17,690 --> 01:51:19,490
and limited agricultural uses.

1175
01:51:20,810 --> 01:51:24,170
This proposal would allow a single family detached residential,

1176
01:51:25,050 --> 01:51:28,690
no limited agricultural reduce the minimum lot size

1177
01:51:28,690 --> 01:51:33,150
from one acre to 12,500 with a maximum of three in the property,

1178
01:51:33,390 --> 01:51:35,970
three dwelling, three lots for dwelling units in the property,

1179
01:51:36,790 --> 01:51:41,530
would reduce the setbacks to 20 foot front setback,

1180
01:51:41,850 --> 01:51:44,850
10 foot side setback, 20 foot side to street, 20 foot rear,

1181
01:51:44,850 --> 01:51:51,410
here with setbacks for accessory structures being the same as the primary structure setbacks.

1182
01:51:51,750 --> 01:52:00,570
There are a few provisions in the ODP that you may see in there, let me pull that up so

1183
01:52:00,570 --> 01:52:01,570
I can read those out to you.

1184
01:52:03,330 --> 01:52:07,710
I think there was a little bit of confusion at planning commission about what those meds,

1185
01:52:07,710 --> 01:52:08,710
so I'd like to explain it.

1186
01:52:09,390 --> 01:52:25,790
So, where it says required setbacks for the existing single family dwelling shell B side setback two feet from west property line, we are setback five feet from north property line and required setbacks for the existing detached garage shall be five feet from the north property line.

1187
01:52:26,630 --> 01:52:38,690
This refers to the house that is currently on the property there, you see it's pretty close to the ditch there and fairly close to the west.

1188
01:52:38,690 --> 01:52:44,830
property line. So those, the, because the lot lines will be established in the

1189
01:52:44,830 --> 01:52:51,210
plat, that's sort of to give a little bit of room so that we don't create

1190
01:52:51,210 --> 01:52:57,230
a non-conforming condition when the property is divided in the plat, because

1191
01:52:57,230 --> 01:53:02,550
currently the existing house meets setbacks to the rear, but if the lot line were to

1192
01:53:02,550 --> 01:53:08,270
be drawn at the ditch, it would be pretty close. So that's why there are specific

1193
01:53:08,270 --> 01:53:21,290
setbacks for the existing house, they would not apply to a new house after the property is subdivided, and if a new house were to be built on the lot closest to West 52nd.

1194
01:53:21,830 --> 01:53:28,610
So again, those are just two sort of legalized the existing condition under the new ODP.

1195
01:53:30,770 --> 01:53:36,430
Okay, looking at the rezoning criteria, of course, section 60 of the zoning resolution states

1196
01:53:36,830 --> 01:53:40,630
in reviewing proposed rezoning applications, planning commission and the Board of County

1197
01:53:40,630 --> 01:53:44,170
commissioners should consider the following criteria, excuse me, may consider the following

1198
01:53:44,170 --> 01:53:50,690
criteria, compatibility with the existing allowable land uses in the surrounding area, degree of conformance

1199
01:53:50,690 --> 01:53:54,730
with applicable land use plans, ability to mitigate negative impacts on the surrounding area,

1200
01:53:54,730 --> 01:53:58,790
availability of infrastructure and services and effective on health safety and welfare of

1201
01:53:58,790 --> 01:54:03,130
residents and landowners in the surrounding area, A, to look at compatibility.

1202
01:54:04,790 --> 01:54:08,690
The predominant land use in the area is residential with some agricultural uses.

1203
01:54:08,930 --> 01:54:15,230
There is a significant amount of residential one zoning nearby with a minimum lot size of

1204
01:54:15,230 --> 01:54:18,370
12,500, which matches the proposed rezoning.

1205
01:54:18,890 --> 01:54:23,010
And most of the agricultural two properties in the area are significantly less than the required

1206
01:54:23,010 --> 01:54:28,030
10 acre minimum lot size. General lot sizes range from a minimum lot size of just over

1207
01:54:28,030 --> 01:54:34,610
7,500 square feet in knee cottages and fair amount lay in ODP, which is quarter mile

1208
01:54:34,610 --> 01:54:40,930
from the southwest to about five acres. Maximum building height proposed of 35 feet matches

1209
01:54:40,930 --> 01:54:45,690
allowed building height and surrounding area. Therefore, we find the applicants proposed

1210
01:54:45,690 --> 01:54:49,510
residential uses compatible with the existing and allowable land uses in the surrounding

1211
01:54:49,510 --> 01:54:54,070
area, as it is residential land use, with comparable lot sizes and other standards to many

1212
01:54:54,070 --> 01:54:54,810
lots in the area.

1213
01:54:55,810 --> 01:55:00,590
Okay, B, conformance to comprehensive master plan, of course, this is broken up into four

1214
01:55:00,590 --> 01:55:05,030
categories, land use, physical constraints, community resources, and infrastructure, water

1215
01:55:05,030 --> 01:55:05,690
and services.

1216
01:55:06,550 --> 01:55:12,590
For land use, subject property is an area 10 of the North Plains area plan of the Comprehensive

1217
01:55:12,590 --> 01:55:18,430
Master Plan, which is recommended for maximum density of 2.5 million units per acre.

1218
01:55:18,430 --> 01:55:28,730
The applicants proposed three lot maximum on the existing 1.37 acres would get come out

1219
01:55:28,730 --> 01:55:35,390
to 2.22 dwelling units per acre, so it's meeting that land use recommendation, North Plains

1220
01:55:35,390 --> 01:55:41,530
area plan as other policies, including houses do not be placed on slope squared and 30%,

1221
01:55:41,530 --> 01:55:47,850
subject property is relatively flat, do not contain any such slopes, comprehensive master plan

1222
01:55:47,850 --> 01:55:52,550
recommends a mix of housing with which the proposed rezoning contributes to in the surrounding area.

1223
01:55:53,890 --> 01:55:58,450
Physical constraints, there are no mapped flood plans or geologic hazards associated with

1224
01:55:58,450 --> 01:56:04,150
the subject property. We don't have any concerns related to physical constraints and find that

1225
01:56:04,730 --> 01:56:08,790
proposals in conformance with the physical constraint section of the comprehensive master plan.

1226
01:56:09,870 --> 01:56:14,730
Community resources, proposal was sent out on referral to Jefferson County Historical Commission,

1227
01:56:15,410 --> 01:56:17,010
which resulted in no concerns.

1228
01:56:17,650 --> 01:56:19,470
The properties are not near any historic sites.

1229
01:56:19,710 --> 01:56:23,270
We find the policies and goals of the community resources section

1230
01:56:23,270 --> 01:56:24,770
of the plan have generally been met.

1231
01:56:25,790 --> 01:56:27,710
And finally, infrastructure, water, and services.

1232
01:56:27,910 --> 01:56:30,330
There are no concerns with the existing infrastructure,

1233
01:56:30,330 --> 01:56:34,650
water availability and services for the proposed land use.

1234
01:56:35,130 --> 01:56:37,470
We'll look at it more when we come back to it

1235
01:56:37,470 --> 01:56:39,390
in infrastructure and services in part D.

1236
01:56:40,870 --> 01:56:48,710
Okay. See mitigation of impacts. The proposed rezoning seeks to allow a maximum of three

1237
01:56:48,710 --> 01:56:53,510
single-family detached dwellings in a residential area. Staff finds impacts to the surrounding

1238
01:56:53,510 --> 01:56:58,150
area will be minimal. Primary impact will be to the transportation network, which according

1239
01:56:58,150 --> 01:57:03,170
to our transportation engineering division, is adequate to accommodate the small amount of additional traffic.

1240
01:57:04,290 --> 01:57:09,210
Okay, D, availability of water, excuse me, infrastructure and services, not just water.

1241
01:57:10,030 --> 01:57:14,190
The applicant has provided evidence showing that North Table Mountain Water and Sanitation

1242
01:57:14,190 --> 01:57:18,330
will provide water and sewer services to the subject property, fair amount fire protection

1243
01:57:18,330 --> 01:57:22,710
district, provides emergency rescue and fire protection services to the property, Jefferson

1244
01:57:22,710 --> 01:57:27,650
County Sheriff's Office provides law enforcement services, and Jefferson County Schools has stated

1245
01:57:27,650 --> 01:57:32,510
that the impacted schools would be adequate to house the anticipated students from the development.

1246
01:57:32,510 --> 01:57:38,730
Therefore, we have no concerns with the adequacy of the infrastructure and public services available for this proposal.

1247
01:57:40,190 --> 01:57:45,390
Finally, E effect upon the health safety and welfare of the residents and landowners in the surrounding area.

1248
01:57:45,730 --> 01:57:54,950
The staff finds that the proposed zoning will not negatively impact the health safety and welfare of residents and landowners in the surrounding area.

1249
01:57:55,310 --> 01:58:00,890
There are no known unmitigated impacts with a development that would impair that health safety and welfare of the surrounding area.

1250
01:58:01,730 --> 01:58:06,570
community notification, applicant posted signs on the property, Jefferson County mailed

1251
01:58:06,570 --> 01:58:12,650
postcards to neighboring property owners, notified HOAs within one mile in conformance

1252
01:58:12,650 --> 01:58:18,090
with our regulation. Regulations, plural. During the processing of the application, we did

1253
01:58:18,090 --> 01:58:25,310
not receive any comments about this case. Our findings, then in general. First, the proposed

1254
01:58:25,310 --> 01:58:30,650
single-family detached residential land use is compatible with the existing and allowed single

1255
01:58:30,650 --> 01:58:32,570
will family detached residential land uses

1256
01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:34,030
in the surrounding area.

1257
01:58:34,550 --> 01:58:36,710
Proposal is in general conformance

1258
01:58:36,710 --> 01:58:37,970
with a comprehensive master plan

1259
01:58:37,970 --> 01:58:40,430
as it meets the land use and density recommendations

1260
01:58:40,430 --> 01:58:41,790
in the north plains area plan

1261
01:58:41,790 --> 01:58:44,890
and is in conformance with other applicable sections

1262
01:58:44,890 --> 01:58:46,110
of the plan goals and policies.

1263
01:58:47,110 --> 01:58:50,310
Three, the ability to mitigate the negative impacts

1264
01:58:50,310 --> 01:58:51,650
of the proposed land use

1265
01:58:52,080 --> 01:58:53,770
upon the surrounding area have been considered

1266
01:58:53,770 --> 01:58:55,830
and no negative impacts were identified.

1267
01:58:56,190 --> 01:58:58,910
Four, the subject property is currently served

1268
01:58:58,910 --> 01:59:02,190
by the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office, Fair Mount Fire Protection, and North

1269
01:59:02,190 --> 01:59:03,570
Table Mountain Water and Sanitation.

1270
01:59:04,330 --> 01:59:08,710
The existing infrastructure and services are adequate and available to serve the proposed

1271
01:59:08,710 --> 01:59:09,230
land uses.

1272
01:59:09,890 --> 01:59:14,190
Finally, the proposed land use will not result in significant impacts to the health safety

1273
01:59:14,190 --> 01:59:16,810
and welfare of the residents and landowners in the surrounding area.

1274
01:59:18,570 --> 01:59:23,470
Looking at the process broadly, we are here at the rezoning phase review of proposed zoning

1275
01:59:23,470 --> 01:59:28,250
and sporting documents, reviewing the case against the rezoning criteria, planning commission

1276
01:59:28,250 --> 01:59:33,210
and of course Board of County Commission hearings, following this, should the application be approved,

1277
01:59:33,390 --> 01:59:39,730
it will move to the preliminary and final plan process, public process to subdivide the property,

1278
01:59:39,950 --> 01:59:44,250
subject to approval, then finally, calling that any administrative permits,

1279
01:59:44,610 --> 01:59:47,810
grading permits, building permits that are needed to actually build houses.

1280
01:59:49,210 --> 01:59:53,370
Just to look at the planning commission hearing, very briefly, on September 14th,

1281
01:59:53,370 --> 01:59:59,210
The case was scheduled on the consent agenda, it was moved to regular to allow for public testimony.

1282
02:00:00,500 --> 02:00:20,920
One member of the public, a neighbor, or not the immediate neighbor, but down the street. Provided testimony regarding this neighbor had concerns about compatibility, traffic concerns, and especially concerns about the impact to the water table. As he is on a well, isn't our agricultural well user in the area.

1283
02:00:22,940 --> 02:00:30,480
Following that public testimony, the planning commission voted to approve the rezoning. And so here we are today, Board of County Commission.

1284
02:00:30,480 --> 02:00:32,780
is charged with reviewing the request, staff report,

1285
02:00:32,980 --> 02:00:34,340
and planning commission recommendation,

1286
02:00:35,060 --> 02:00:37,140
receiving testimony and evidence on the application,

1287
02:00:37,700 --> 02:00:39,220
and approving or denying the request.

1288
02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:41,140
That concludes my presentation.

1289
02:00:41,420 --> 02:00:43,740
Happy to answer any questions you might have.

1290
02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:46,760
Great, thank you, Mr. Clausen.

1291
02:00:46,920 --> 02:00:49,260
Commissioners, do you have any questions for Mr. Clausen?

1292
02:00:52,930 --> 02:00:56,810
All right, next we'll hear from the applicant for 12.2.

1293
02:00:57,430 --> 02:01:01,470
Ms. Glenn, would you please swear in each of the presenters

1294
02:01:01,470 --> 02:01:04,310
if there's more than one for the applicant.

1295
02:01:08,410 --> 02:01:10,990
Luciano, Busnardo, are you with us?

1296
02:01:13,700 --> 02:01:14,800
You may be on there as Lou.

1297
02:01:19,490 --> 02:01:20,390
So you can go on there.

1298
02:01:21,190 --> 02:01:21,650
Hi, Lou.

1299
02:01:21,890 --> 02:01:22,270
How are you?

1300
02:01:22,390 --> 02:01:26,990
We're going to get you sworn in, and then you'll have your time to present.

1301
02:01:29,280 --> 02:01:34,520
Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole

1302
02:01:34,520 --> 02:01:37,220
truth, and nothing but the truth so help you God.

1303
02:01:37,940 --> 02:01:38,760
I do.

1304
02:01:39,600 --> 02:01:45,260
May please have you state your name and spell it as well as your address for the record.

1305
02:01:47,060 --> 02:01:56,740
First name, Luciano, LUC, I-A-N-O, last name, Buznardo, B-U-S-N-A-R-D-O.

1306
02:01:56,740 --> 02:02:06,580
So, property address is 1-4-0-5, west 52nd Avenue, our Vata 8,000-2.

1307
02:02:11,810 --> 02:02:12,870
You may proceed.

1308
02:02:22,050 --> 02:02:33,050
Basically, what Mr. Clausen stated is that we are in the process of re-zoning to a public

1309
02:02:33,050 --> 02:02:44,470
development and we are looking to build two properties on the backside which is about 40,000 square feet

1310
02:02:45,170 --> 02:02:55,090
total land space which falls under the guidelines and the developer that's building to the north

1311
02:02:55,090 --> 02:03:05,950
and east of us is in the process of getting the approval of building road to the east side of

1312
02:03:05,950 --> 02:03:16,890
my property, which would be FIG court and so we would have access on to FIG court and then add

1313
02:03:16,890 --> 02:03:29,750
on to 52nd. We don't have any issues with, you know, water and sewer. So, and that's basically,

1314
02:03:30,110 --> 02:03:37,510
you know, I've been on this property since 2012. And the current home that we live in,

1315
02:03:37,750 --> 02:03:46,210
that Mr. Klassen, have referred to, was built in 1912. And we're currently living in that.

1316
02:03:46,210 --> 02:03:59,190
That's a little bit small for us, so that was our reasoning for building another home and then adding a second home on the back property backside of the property for our children.

1317
02:04:06,200 --> 02:04:08,460
And that's it. That's all I have to say on it.

1318
02:04:09,460 --> 02:04:16,940
Okay. Great. Thank you very much. Commissioner, do you have any questions for our presenter questions?

1319
02:04:22,630 --> 02:04:22,970
All right.

1320
02:04:24,490 --> 02:04:30,410
Next we will move into public testimony if you would like to provide public testimony on this issue.

1321
02:04:30,870 --> 02:04:35,710
Let me just double check here in the room if we have anyone for public testimony.

1322
02:04:37,190 --> 02:04:41,550
Mr. Anslow, you're not here for this, okay?

1323
02:04:41,550 --> 02:04:46,130
and let me check no

1324
02:04:50,550 --> 02:04:55,470
public testimony for 12.2. So we'll go through everything then.

1325
02:04:56,370 --> 02:05:04,170
All right, so public testimony is now closed. Mr. Closson, do you have any

1326
02:05:04,170 --> 02:05:12,490
response to public testimony? No, I don't. Thank you. And do you have any

1327
02:05:12,490 --> 02:05:16,010
a response to the presentation by the applicant.

1328
02:05:16,450 --> 02:05:19,570
I don't, but if you have any questions for me, I may have an answer to them.

1329
02:05:20,030 --> 02:05:20,190
Great.

1330
02:05:21,310 --> 02:05:25,750
So does anyone have any questions or comments for anyone else at this point?

1331
02:05:26,910 --> 02:05:27,950
I have a motion.

1332
02:05:28,890 --> 02:05:29,410
Great.

1333
02:05:29,530 --> 02:05:33,590
May I have a motion for hearing regular agenda item 12.2?

1334
02:05:33,950 --> 02:05:34,370
You may.

1335
02:05:34,590 --> 02:05:38,250
I move for the approval of hearing regular agenda item 12.2.

1336
02:05:38,770 --> 02:05:39,290
Second.

1337
02:05:39,290 --> 02:05:42,450
That is a proper motion and a second, Ms. Glenn.

1338
02:05:42,550 --> 02:05:43,630
Will you please call the vote?

1339
02:05:43,970 --> 02:05:44,810
Commissioner Kraftbar?

1340
02:05:45,010 --> 02:05:45,150
Yes.

1341
02:05:45,590 --> 02:05:46,650
Commissioner Dahlkimper?

1342
02:05:46,790 --> 02:05:46,910
Yes.

1343
02:05:47,310 --> 02:05:48,130
Commissioner Kerr?

1344
02:05:48,370 --> 02:05:48,550
Aye.

1345
02:05:48,930 --> 02:05:50,230
And that passes unanimously.

1346
02:05:50,810 --> 02:05:54,990
Thank you, Mr. Busnardo, for sticking with us this morning

1347
02:05:54,990 --> 02:05:56,350
and for your presentation.

1348
02:05:56,750 --> 02:06:00,050
And thank you, Mr. Clawson.

1349
02:06:00,590 --> 02:06:03,930
Next on our agenda is a second round of public comment.

1350
02:06:04,450 --> 02:06:07,570
Does anyone who has not provided public comment today wish

1351
02:06:07,570 --> 02:06:10,650
to speak to a topic that was not on today's agenda.

1352
02:06:13,320 --> 02:06:15,040
Not here for that, either, Mr. Ansela.

1353
02:06:15,900 --> 02:06:16,040
Okay.

1354
02:06:16,940 --> 02:06:21,540
And doesn't look like we have anyone to comment on line.

1355
02:06:21,800 --> 02:06:23,500
Next, we have reports, commissioners.

1356
02:06:23,660 --> 02:06:24,620
Do you have any reports?

1357
02:06:25,720 --> 02:06:27,720
Let me start with Commissioner Crafler.

1358
02:06:28,440 --> 02:06:29,140
Yes, thank you.

1359
02:06:29,260 --> 02:06:33,060
So I want to thank the staff at the Cabrini Shrine

1360
02:06:33,060 --> 02:06:37,440
for the tour on Thursday.

1361
02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:47,100
on one of the days. Yes, yes, it was very informative, very interesting, so that was helpful.

1362
02:06:47,780 --> 02:06:56,520
Congratulations to the Westminster Chamber for a successful awards event on Friday, and then thank you to LEAF,

1363
02:06:56,740 --> 02:07:05,400
the Latino Education Achievement Foundation, was able to participate in their golf tournament event.

1364
02:07:07,440 --> 02:07:08,020
That's it.

1365
02:07:08,860 --> 02:07:09,700
Thank you.

1366
02:07:09,860 --> 02:07:10,840
Commissioner Delkumper.

1367
02:07:11,260 --> 02:07:11,400
Great.

1368
02:07:11,580 --> 02:07:12,340
Thank you so much.

1369
02:07:12,600 --> 02:07:19,100
Was pleased to represent Jefferson County in the Colorado Fire Commission at a conference

1370
02:07:19,100 --> 02:07:24,140
yesterday in Colorado Springs with leaders from California, Texas, New Mexico, and Colorado.

1371
02:07:24,860 --> 02:07:29,340
Talking about how we address some of the various issues we were talking about just a few minutes

1372
02:07:29,340 --> 02:07:36,380
ago in terms of ensuring our communities stay safe, that they're resilient to wildfire,

1373
02:07:36,380 --> 02:07:39,580
and covered a lot of ground in that panel discussion

1374
02:07:39,580 --> 02:07:41,980
and also during the conference as well.

1375
02:07:42,480 --> 02:07:46,160
Also huge congrats to Jeff Goh Public Libraries

1376
02:07:46,740 --> 02:07:48,880
celebrating their 70th anniversary

1377
02:07:49,340 --> 02:07:52,380
and that theme continued through their conference yesterday

1378
02:07:52,380 --> 02:07:55,200
was pleased behalf of the Board of County Commissioners

1379
02:07:55,200 --> 02:07:58,620
to express our deep gratitude to librarians

1380
02:07:58,620 --> 02:08:01,660
and the entire team for their innovation

1381
02:08:01,660 --> 02:08:06,020
and the important work that they do every day

1382
02:08:06,020 --> 02:08:11,180
in our community. It was really great. The theme continued throughout the conference

1383
02:08:11,180 --> 02:08:15,120
in terms of calling it that 70s conference. So when you walked in you felt like you went

1384
02:08:15,120 --> 02:08:19,960
back in time since many people really embraced that and took it to heart and were dressed

1385
02:08:19,960 --> 02:08:24,180
as a phages walked out of the 70s. So it was really great to see everyone and express

1386
02:08:24,180 --> 02:08:28,340
our gratitude. And then finally a big thanks to everyone who turned out for our telephone

1387
02:08:28,340 --> 02:08:34,160
town hall last week on the county budget. Great input, lots of good questions and again

1388
02:08:34,160 --> 02:08:36,180
and really appreciate everyone who took the time out

1389
02:08:36,180 --> 02:08:37,060
to participate.

1390
02:08:39,940 --> 02:08:40,800
Great, thank you.

1391
02:08:42,020 --> 02:08:44,980
Let's see, telephone, town hall, check,

1392
02:08:45,420 --> 02:08:48,540
Mother Cabrini Shrine, tour, check.

1393
02:08:49,540 --> 02:08:54,860
Also on Mother Cabrini yesterday was Mother Cabrini Day

1394
02:08:54,860 --> 02:08:55,880
here in Colorado.

1395
02:08:56,920 --> 02:09:01,140
And so just wanted to extend my thanks

1396
02:09:01,140 --> 02:09:05,100
to the legislature after I had left.

1397
02:09:05,100 --> 02:09:20,560
And if you didn't know, I had been there before, they decided this, but they did make Mother Cabrini day a state holiday in a compromise between different opinions on the whole thing.

1398
02:09:20,560 --> 02:09:29,580
Also last week, I did attend with staff our I-70 collaborative effort.

1399
02:09:30,160 --> 02:09:38,160
It was great to get updates on the pending construction around Floyd's Hill.

1400
02:09:38,420 --> 02:09:45,560
There will be some pieces of that part of the construction that will happen in Jefferson County.

1401
02:09:45,560 --> 02:09:52,300
the vast majority of it will be happening in Clear Creek County but there are some portions

1402
02:09:52,300 --> 02:10:00,900
of a wildlife overpass and some other pieces that will happen in Jefferson County and those will

1403
02:10:00,900 --> 02:10:06,560
happen first to before they get to the major construction down in Clear Creek but I've got

1404
02:10:06,560 --> 02:10:15,320
an update on that. Also had some updates around the public transportation options

1405
02:10:15,560 --> 02:10:45,020
For folks wishing to get from the front range along the I-70 corridor, you might bus staying has been around for a while, but also the newer, smaller, quicker, more convenient paguses has also been running in really encouraging folks to check that out if you need to get the stop right here in Jefferson County at the federal center.

1406
02:10:45,020 --> 02:10:54,660
stop, and they have various stops going up the I-70 corridor year-round, seven days a week,

1407
02:10:55,260 --> 02:11:05,720
and a quick, easy, and convenient, and I recommend people to check that out. We also was part of my

1408
02:11:05,720 --> 02:11:17,160
I subcommittee on the Colorado Opioid Abitment Council, not to spill any beans, Commissioner

1409
02:11:17,160 --> 02:11:23,000
Dalkempir, but we did approve requests from the various regions.

1410
02:11:23,320 --> 02:11:28,980
So I won't, you know, if you haven't heard anything official, I don't want to say anything

1411
02:11:28,980 --> 02:11:34,180
more than that, but we did approve requests from various regions.

1412
02:11:34,180 --> 02:11:50,540
And then also on Friday with other commissioners from around CCI we did get some information on various ballot, statewide ballot initiatives that you will see on your ballot.

1413
02:11:51,220 --> 02:11:59,340
And there are some interesting ones, statewide ballot initiatives coming with that.

1414
02:11:59,340 --> 02:12:12,980
And just want to ask everyone, make sure you hug your kids tight with that Madam County attorney.

1415
02:12:13,760 --> 02:12:21,860
I have nothing to report today, thank you, Madam Interim County Manager.

1416
02:12:22,500 --> 02:12:38,080
Just one thing I wanted to extend our thanks for Julie Stoy's work, she's been here for 14, 15 years now, and this is her last public hearing with us, so sad to see her go but wishing her well in her future.

1417
02:12:40,320 --> 02:12:41,160
We

1418
02:12:45,830 --> 02:12:55,490
wish it was a full room of a standing applause, but since we didn't have the controversial

1419
02:12:55,490 --> 02:13:02,890
land use cases to bring everyone in today, but Julie, thank you for your service to the

1420
02:13:02,890 --> 02:13:03,250
county.

1421
02:13:04,130 --> 02:13:07,270
You will definitely be missed.

1422
02:13:08,350 --> 02:13:09,430
Thank you.

1423
02:13:10,770 --> 02:13:21,010
With that, once again, after a very efficiently run meeting, we are running ahead, so we're

1424
02:13:21,010 --> 02:13:29,770
going to look to start our briefings at 10.30, which is a little bit earlier than scheduled.

1425
02:13:30,190 --> 02:13:35,790
So if you know anyone that needs to know that we are moving up half an hour, please let

1426
02:13:35,790 --> 02:13:40,750
them now. And with that, these hearings are adjourned.