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okay i've got at least my one of my

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assistant county attorneys on with me

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yeah i already went doggy

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all right um

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all right we'll get this meeting started

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to the jefferson county board of

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supervisors

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i'm darren hamilton chairman and uh

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we'll uh call this meeting to order

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uh let's start by acknowledging the

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minutes from the previous meeting

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all right i have a motion by uh demit

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second by saint quest

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uh to approve the minutes from the

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previous meeting

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all those in favor say i i all those

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opposed

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same sign motion carries

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um the next two

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items are

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our part of the county engineer's

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responsibility and he's not here so

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we're gonna

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move on up to um

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let's see do we have paperwork for

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uh discuss and consider board of

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supervisors civil service

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commission

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oh i think you're going to need

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assignments well

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that involves scott as well i had no

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idea on cell service division i assumed

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that maybe that was

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from chauncey because susie's term

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expired

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and i think he was wanting to do an

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interim

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appointment so to speak until after the

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election

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and i don't know if he was asking it

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because susan's his appointment

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well we have pat mcmahon on with us pat

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maybe you can answer this question about

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the uh civil service

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uh yeah my understanding is that the

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hold on just a second

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i gotta get some volume up on you here

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okay now go ahead the terms of the folks

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who were up this year

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uh expired on june 30.

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so i think we have one that needs to be

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either reappointed or

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uh newly appointed and i think that you

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folks had one as well but

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um i wasn't involved directly in those

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conversations that's just my

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understanding

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okay all right so

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um

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who's currently on under us

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uh pat are you still there no

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depends what you ask okay

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uh i show um that adam stafford expires

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in october of 21.

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joe ledger expires in october of 23

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and susie's the only one that

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is up and is is she october of this year

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or was it june october of last year

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we don't have anybody expiring until

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october of 21.

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poor choice of words whose term is is

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up until october of 21.

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okay uh well if that's the case then it

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is just us

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and um um we will uh

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we'll do what we need to do so uh i

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don't know why i was thinking that it

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was uh one of those kind of like the

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supervisors where there's two at one

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time and then one at

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two years staggered so uh okay well then

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there's nothing for you guys to do there

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send you something eventually okay thank

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you thank you pat

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all right uh scott kleiner county

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engineer has joined us

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so we're going to move back to meet with

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okay so of course i've done blading

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did a culvert replacement of 1 10th

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and ditching some more on miracle

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further to the south and ironwood

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and um equipment maintenance

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mowing shoulders gravels and tables

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we're into yellow now on the basement

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got five holes repaired on packwood road

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v64 rock hall angle

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and shoulder maintenance on kelp north

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i got a couple rooms for you to check

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out for somebody

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just talked about that

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there's uh somebody that liked it

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and just north like just down that hill

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that first little hill

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on the west side there's a big like

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tractor tire or something right by the

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edge of the road

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well these tractors she just wanted to

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think about that

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but my point is tractors are going to

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start moving here pretty quick and

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trucks we need to get it fixed because

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it just it's the edge of the room and

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just at least now it needs a

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flag on that but

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and the other one is on nutmeg just have

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them go out and really look at that i

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did that yesterday and there's

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a couple of bitcoins on there and that's

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three weeks or so

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more um between there and selena read

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yeah it's been awfully dry but um

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both commercial uh people are hauling

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yeah well because of all the dryers

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that's where okay at with road crews

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all right we'll move on to uh consider a

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resolution to accept

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proposal by calvin burns and associates

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for

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bridge inspection and rating program

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we have a resolution in front of it that

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says be it resolved by the jefferson

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county board of supervisors to accept

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the proposal by calvin burns and

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associates

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incorporated for the 2021 bridge

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inspection and rating program

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to be accepted for jefferson county

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by signature of the board of supervisors

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chair

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correct yes they're going to

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reinspect 79 structures in 2021

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for a long sum fee of 17 370 dollars

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there it's required that load rating

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computations

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be done including on any new

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of the rating trucks i mean meaning

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trucks that are

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now allowed to be on there that weren't

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allowed to be there before

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and uh update the scour evaluations

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do uh fracture critical inspections

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those those are bridges that if one

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component goes there's no redundancy and

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little things live ago and

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track let's see

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anyway various items there so for load

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reading computations

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those are 125 dollars each

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and it depends on how many they have to

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do and

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updated scour evaluations 105

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each bridge has that that's done on

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fraction critical 400 each and they

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estimate that those three things

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would cost around six thousand dollars

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and if there's anything else that we ask

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them to do like

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if somebody wants to take a heavy truck

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for a heavier truck over a bridge

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and they give you the how their load is

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spread out

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they the boards can determine if

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we could give a special permit for that

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truck to go over

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and might be things like don't go more

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than 5 miles per hour

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and no braking on the

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to get that special permit that they

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need to pay the cost of the

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there is a charge

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that's um in the state statutes

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but over reducing

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some of the numbers of bridges

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well if we put a single tank cart on

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something that was

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a bridge before like 20 feet of greater

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then a single tank car is not going to

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be

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20 feet or greater so that takes one out

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come find an 18 foot long bridge and we put two tanker cars in because

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that's what it says it's supposed to

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have

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then we have a new bridge that goes on

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our

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inventory

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and someday they might rate that a

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little bit lower and we get some money

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out of

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it being a bridge but um

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tommy we have eliminated silently

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probably eliminated

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right you got you don't have any width

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restrictions anymore

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and no low limits and i'm not liable to

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have a name for

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40 50 years

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right

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to approve the resolution all those in

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favor say hi all those opposed same sign

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motion carries

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maybe i can go back

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thank you sir

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okay we'll move on to consider a

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resolution to accept

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okay we did that one sorry um

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discuss and consider signing group

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letter

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and that would be the group clutter that

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was spoken to us at our last meeting

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about uh oversized trucks

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and um platoon type trucking

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the extra weight vehicles

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um yeah that we spoke about so

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and there's there's not on a

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signing letter really what it means is

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that um

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yeah okay i have the motion from

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sandquest a second

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from dim it to go ahead and

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add our names to the letter that's being

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submitted for

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um reconsideration of increasing weights

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on trucking across the united states as

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well as

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through our county and the state body

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all those in favor say i all those opposed same sign

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motion carries

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it is to try and stop

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increased weights on on highways

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this doesn't change their dynamic at all

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it doesn't affect their ability to uh

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haul their their product to

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wherever right is that suggested by the

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government

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here

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okay um we're going to discuss stop sign

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on 110th

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in pleasant plain

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we've asked the mayor of pleasant plain

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to come and be with us today

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okay um thank you so much

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all right um a little bit of history on

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this

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uh previous county engineer had

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authorized a stop sign to be placed at

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west street and 110th

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street in pleasant plain which is on the

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west side of town

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the history on it was is that uh it was

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felt that people were speeding through

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pleasant plain

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and they were wanting to use it as a

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traffic control device

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there were not warrants which are

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designations given as to whether traffic

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control devices are needed at a

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particular

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intersection because of traffic volume

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turning movements or accident history

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which this location had met none of

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those requirements

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and it's the county's position that

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the stop sign should not be there um

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it is the county highway 110th street is

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the county highway that goes to the

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west out of pleasant plain and

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uh there are some things that can be

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changed

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to lessen the speed

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coming into town by moving to signs

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locations we have proposals for that

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extending uh extending the 55 mile an

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hour speed limit

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farther to the west as you're going on

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in town

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uh changing the 55

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mile an hour speed limit that's

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currently going west

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to a 45 mile an hour speed limit at that

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location where the

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speed limit is reduced all the way to 25

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mile an hour coming in

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we lengthen the distance of the speed

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zone

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ahead area we currently have a

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sign out there that that says that

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but it's it's much closer than what it

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is

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that would make um the speed limit start reducing

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at uh which is quince

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avenue to the west

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additional speed zone head sign

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to the west of the city london line so

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that right people are where they need to

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be

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going 45 and say london

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what input is the community

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in the letter that i sent you it was

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outlined by the

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county attorney that since it is pretty well known that the sign

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isn't enforced

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out there that it presents a hazard or a

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problem to the county in that if there

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is an accident that happens

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because someone doesn't obey the stop

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sign that's currently there

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then the sound the county can be held

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liable for what happens with that

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accident

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and with no um no

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history of that intersection or no

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turning movements

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to warrant a sign being there in the

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first place it should not have been

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erected uh is what the county's position

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is

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so that it should come down even though

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a previous county engineer

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had uh designated to put up a sign out

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there

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it was not because there was anything

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that

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actually warranted and i'm not sure

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well obviously it isn't it is

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i've seen people i pulled in there just

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to

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turn around while documenting where

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signs were

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i saw two people go through the stop

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sign

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without stopping i mean they may have

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slowed down a little bit

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um that was all it did to slow down

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and uh stop signs there's you're

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supposed to stop that there's supposed

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to be

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enforced that you come to a full stop

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there should be a stop sign coming from

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the other

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way if if it's warranted that a stop

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sign before that that low case should be

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through three will stop

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west

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and then put one up going east now

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there's both of them on both sides

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i'm going out of town from the inventory

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but out of town they can run faster

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there's nothing there they've passed the

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church already to pass

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uh west street they have to

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come back down so there's no need for

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adoption

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well if they're going into

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there's supposed to be a resolution

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or an ordinance that says that they're

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supposed to be

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they would have to say there's two stops

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on there and they

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have to be predicated on that there

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being warrants to have one there

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if people slow down to the speed limits

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that are posted

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then they shouldn't have to stop there

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let me ask a question and this is

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that's impact in here so

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first question do you know when that had

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both stop signs was that originally

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pleasant planes idea or was it just

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there

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yeah okay and that that answers that

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question

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the second part of the question then is

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if an

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ordinance is required who's required to

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pass that ordinance the city of pleasant

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plain or the county board of supervisors

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and the third part of that then is is

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that if it's the city of pleasant plain

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they pass an ordinance is it not their

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responsibility to enforce that

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organization

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oh populations below 500.

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so i mean i'll let that

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yeah did you hear the questions that lee

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had

415
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yes i did uh so this is a county roadway um

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and so it's um

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as such the county has jurisdiction over that roadway

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uh kind of like highway one running

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through the city of fairfield right

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so it would be the county's

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uh responsibility to do that and it

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would be

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whether it's the county's responsibility

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or the city's responsibility to enforce

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uh the sheriff provides

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uh uh you know

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law enforcement coverage for pleasant

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planes so we're really talking about the

429
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same entity

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so let me go back to you said about

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highway one but there are stop lights

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along highway one now i'm not advocating

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i'll keep the stop sign i just want to

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be clear

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there's stop lights along highway one

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that a local

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law enforcement can write me a ticket

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for running that stoplight

439
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any law enforcement can write a write a

440
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ticket for violation of a traffic

441
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ordinance but you said whose authority

442
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or whose responsibility is it uh you

443
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know each municipality has

444
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a law enforcement um

445
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provides law enforcement for their

446
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community pleasant plane does that by

447
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contracting with our sheriff's office

448
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so our sheriff's office can do it but

449
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the state patrol could do it

450
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anybody that saw it could do it right

451
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but who established the stoplight is

452
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,120
what i'm saying to the city of fairfield

453
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or did the state of iowa uh i'm guessing

454
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it was a joint

455
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thing because you can't we can't the

456
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city can't put anything

457
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uh on highway one without approval from

458
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the state

459
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,120
okay that answer that's what i wanted to

460
00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:06,480
know is it's so this is

461
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,400
we're actually almost comparing apples

462
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to apples here

463
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,240
well except that we have jurisdiction on

464
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wasn't playing right

465
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that's what i'm saying so if we were in

466
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agreement with pleasant plane we could

467
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establish that stop sign

468
00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:24,480
uh sort of sort of okay

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00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,600
uh i'm looking at the the statute that

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is

471
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of concern for um our office chelsea

472
00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:32,000
talk to me a little bit about this this

473
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morning before he left but um

474
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it's in the code state code that talks

475
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about traffic enforcement it says that

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um you know drivers have to follow uh

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traffic control devices

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placed in accordance with the provisions

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this chapter and the provisions of the

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chapter say that local authorities

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in their respective jurisdictions shall

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place and maintain

483
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traffic control devices upon highways in

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their jurisdiction

485
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as they deem necessary and as

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uh as indicated uh

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by the state manual and specifications

488
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so when scott's talking about whether

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it's warranted or not and whether it

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meets the criteria

491
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those are things that need to be

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taken care of in order for the sign to

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be properly placed and if the sign is

494
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not properly placed

495
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and we actually catch somebody run that

496
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stop sign and they come in and they

497
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say look this this sign is not warranted

498
00:25:31,679 --> 00:25:33,200
or it's not properly placed

499
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then we can't prosecute it okay

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00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,320
so it's not just a matter of counting

501
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degrees city agrees we're just going to

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put it up

503
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,559
um there's more to it than that and so

504
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that's what scott's talking about in

505
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terms of whether it's warranted or not

506
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warranted and what the studies show

507
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and the appropriate way under the manual

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to

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regulate traffic uh given the data

510
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and if if those things don't um

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aren't all in line um then

512
00:26:01,279 --> 00:26:04,559
uh enforcement on the legal side can be

513
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very difficult

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if not uh you know prohibited

515
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so it's um those are the things that

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concern us

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so by definition scott it's not

518
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warranted

519
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okay

520
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,960
how much traffic goes through there in a

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day

522
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there's a hundred 180 vehicle count i

523
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:26,960
believe it is

524
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coming through there um on the east west

525
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road

526
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right and we don't have a count

527
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on west street

528
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yeah that's the 180 vehicles per day

529
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,480
on both ways yeah that would be going

530
00:26:52,480 --> 00:27:01,430
both directions

531
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:08,630
yes they call that an average count

532
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so

533
00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:17,919
we can't take no action

534
00:27:17,919 --> 00:27:21,039
on it we can't authorize him to remove

535
00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:22,720
it but i don't think we need to he has

536
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,080
the authority to do that because it

537
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,039
doesn't mean

538
00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:26,640
i understand that right now doesn't meet

539
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,080
the requirements and i don't believe

540
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,159
there was a resolution by the county to

541
00:27:30,159 --> 00:27:32,640
ever put it out there in the first place

542
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:37,830
that the board would have approved

543
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:43,990
i don't remember tom ever coming before

544
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:50,870
but again

545
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,399
we don't have the authority to take any

546
00:27:52,399 --> 00:27:54,000
action but i don't think we need to have

547
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,360
the authority because i think it falls

548
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:56,799
under the engineer

549
00:27:56,799 --> 00:28:00,950
adam

550
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,760
i i think that um i think that you're

551
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:04,480
right

552
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:10,070
uh one okay

553
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:16,559
there we go oh my god

554
00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:18,399
no i think i think you're right i mean i

555
00:28:18,399 --> 00:28:19,679
you know unless there was

556
00:28:19,679 --> 00:28:21,600
some official action that needs to be

557
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,039
undone uh

558
00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:25,120
then i don't think you need to take any

559
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:26,080
official action

560
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,159
here uh i think it's part of the county

561
00:28:28,159 --> 00:28:30,480
engineer's responsibility to

562
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,640
you know maintain signage along our

563
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,640
roadways just as i read

564
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,159
and that includes uh removing

565
00:28:38,159 --> 00:28:39,919
of signs that are not appropriate we've

566
00:28:39,919 --> 00:28:41,440
done that in other instances where

567
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,960
things have been posted by

568
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,360
you know adjoining landowners or

569
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,159
whatever

570
00:28:46,159 --> 00:28:47,679
and so that would be similar the thing

571
00:28:47,679 --> 00:28:49,520
is that this has been at that location

572
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,399
for a while so

573
00:28:50,399 --> 00:28:52,960
you probably you know it is appropriate

574
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,399
to sort of publicize it

575
00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:56,399
and make sure that people are aware that

576
00:28:56,399 --> 00:28:58,799
you know that uh that intersection

577
00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:02,320
um is changing um and uh you know do our

578
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,399
best to get our information out there

579
00:29:04,399 --> 00:29:07,200
well we would need to go ahead people if

580
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,679
we're going to do the

581
00:29:08,679 --> 00:29:12,159
speed limit and pass

582
00:29:12,159 --> 00:29:14,640
resolution regarding that i don't have

583
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,880
anything ready on that i've

584
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,559
been wanting to see what the board and

585
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:23,840
pat and the mayor might all have to say

586
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,679
about it today

587
00:29:27,679 --> 00:29:30,799
well i mean obviously uh

588
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:32,640
according to the county attorney's

589
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,279
office falls into your jurisdiction and

590
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:36,960
if you want to change the signs

591
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:45,420
your resolution to do something but

592
00:29:45,430 --> 00:29:53,029
[Music]

593
00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:56,000
i mean you can check it out and uh pick

594
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:56,480
up

595
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,159
90 percent of the people that go through

596
00:29:58,159 --> 00:29:59,679
there well i

597
00:29:59,679 --> 00:30:02,399
think to play devil's advocate if they

598
00:30:02,399 --> 00:30:03,760
don't look at the speed limit signs they

599
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,360
don't look at the stop sign either

600
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,440
which well i know the stop sign slows

601
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,149
them down

602
00:30:10,159 --> 00:30:14,149
well that's the only thing

603
00:30:14,159 --> 00:30:15,440
and that's an excellent point you

604
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,039
brought up an excellent point and that's

605
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:19,120
exactly goes back to the point that that

606
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,799
was making

607
00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:23,919
that because they blow through it

608
00:30:23,919 --> 00:30:25,679
even though they're they're slowing down

609
00:30:25,679 --> 00:30:27,600
in their 170 they're going through the

610
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,360
45 they're going through it

611
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,720
which proves the county at risk

612
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:49,430
if an accident occurs there because a

613
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,480
in your argument you actually

614
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,679
um make the point uh like

615
00:30:55,679 --> 00:30:59,200
against keeping this behind there okay

616
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:44,789
if anything why not

617
00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:49,350
or

618
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,600
because nothing's right nothing's ever

619
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,519
happened to put it up there in the first

620
00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:54,480
place

621
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,240
and it's not been warranted there's not

622
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,679
been a resolution

623
00:31:57,679 --> 00:32:01,440
it's just simply a unenforceable

624
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,039
uh sound it's not unlike a situation

625
00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:07,760
it's it's not exactly apples to apples

626
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,760
but it's not unlike the situation we had

627
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,159
out at osage

628
00:32:12,159 --> 00:32:14,720
we had two deaths on osage since they

629
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,480
put in the bypass

630
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,600
and we as the board of supervisors felt

631
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,039
that was an unsafe um intersection

632
00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:26,159
and it needed to be changed and we asked

633
00:32:26,159 --> 00:32:28,000
the dod for safety monitoring and they

634
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,840
would give me the determination that it

635
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:30,960
was not

636
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,880
a safety issue what criteria they used i

637
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:35,519
don't know

638
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:38,799
but my point simply is is that

639
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:40,320
in this particular instance beauty is

640
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,000
not in the eyes of the beholder wrapped

641
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,840
forward

642
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,039
business safety ain't you coming into

643
00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:47,440
town

644
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,559
because you get overtime over with

645
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:52,640
vehicles

646
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,840
they don't pay attention to the stop

647
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,440
sign

648
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,720
and boys shouldn't be stopping down

649
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,559
why can't the stop sign be there when

650
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:04,320
literally was there 13 years

651
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,679
ago how are you becoming illegal now

652
00:33:07,679 --> 00:33:20,549
i don't have an answer for

653
00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:23,200
and maybe it wasn't legal 13 years ago

654
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,240
but it was put in 13 years ago illegally

655
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,080
how do you know it wasn't an ordinance

656
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,360
did you like that

657
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:38,799
yes we did there is an ordinance

658
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:41,519
well there's definitely no possibility

659
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:43,840
of it being awarded to one stop sign

660
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,679
from one direction

661
00:33:45,679 --> 00:33:49,919
um if it was warranted to put it in

662
00:33:49,919 --> 00:33:53,120
going um from the west to the east that

663
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,640
it should have been warranted to go in

664
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,880
there from the east to the west

665
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,519
uh it would but wow

666
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:03,840
it wasn't necessarily warranted it was

667
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,840
just

668
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,840
would have been there if there were two

669
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,280
stops on it but you still have to

670
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,240
have a warranted stop signs needed there

671
00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:14,720
and

672
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:18,960
you have to get a resolution or an

673
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,240
ordinance that

674
00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:22,960
says that there's going to be a stop

675
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,760
sign and that makes it enforceable

676
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,800
and we don't have any of that there and

677
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,639
don't it's not really worth it to put a

678
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:32,000
stop sign there

679
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,760
okay if people are going the speed

680
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,040
limits that

681
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,760
are posted there then they're then

682
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,359
they're not going to have an accident at

683
00:34:39,359 --> 00:34:40,000
that

684
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,480
intersection because of somebody coming

685
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,599
from the west

686
00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:45,679
i mean coming from west avenue west

687
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:58,550
street whether it

688
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,240
are the conflict vehicles and uh

689
00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:06,000
there's no church there's not that many

690
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,160
so i mean you're supposed to warn it as

691
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,240
to whether it's going to be a crash

692
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:10,720
there

693
00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:14,240
because of somebody a lot of

694
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:16,240
vehicles coming out of west street not

695
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:21,670
turning them inside

696
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,599
and if people are going to speeds that

697
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:27,680
are posted there then that's not going to happen people

698
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,599
are going to stop at west street to let

699
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:31,520
the vehicle go by let's go in the speed

700
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,200
limit

701
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,359
there's no one's creeping in my way yeah

702
00:35:35,359 --> 00:35:36,240
we're not dropping

703
00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:38,160
that's what you own for us is the speed

704
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,280
limit okay but we ain't got no way

705
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,240
it's impossible to put up a pre-sign

706
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:45,040
that says

707
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,680
fashion slow ahead or you know how you

708
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,640
see these

709
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,880
well my idea is to put up the signs that

710
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,040
have the arrow ahead with the seat there

711
00:35:55,040 --> 00:36:09,270
and that tends to so people found more

712
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,760
right well out on um

713
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,359
gear yeah gear and we looked at an

714
00:36:17,359 --> 00:36:19,760
intersection there

715
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,839
and we didn't choose to put a four-way

716
00:36:21,839 --> 00:36:22,960
stop there we

717
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,880
put uh revise the speed limit head signs

718
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:27,280
and

719
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,200
different different things so that when

720
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,320
you got

721
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,240
not necessarily at that intersection

722
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:33,440
with the kelp then

723
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,400
once you got into town with uh gear at

724
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,870
12

725
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,040
it's a lot more noticeable now that it's

726
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,480
25 miles per hour

727
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,520
on the west side of that intersection

728
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,520
than it was when the side was in the

729
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:48,720
shade on the

730
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:53,349
east side of that intersection

731
00:36:53,359 --> 00:36:55,920
but oh there's there's countless

732
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,280
examples but one thing

733
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,000
is you're never supposed to use the stop

734
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:00,960
sign

735
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,240
just simply for speed control it's not

736
00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:05,440
warranted

737
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,960
for that it's rewarded by

738
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,720
your conflicts that you have at an

739
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:12,640
intersection

740
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,040
and with people going through not not

741
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,640
paying attention or

742
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,119
obeying that stop sign that's there now

743
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:21,359
you're not getting

744
00:37:21,359 --> 00:37:25,280
it's not uh effective the way it is

745
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,320
there's a lot of obey and then who's

746
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:28,960
going to be your

747
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,960
uncle who wants to get killed and they

748
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,280
can't find out

749
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,000
but there's no indication whatsoever

750
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,599
that taking the stock sign out

751
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:40,960
is going to increase or decrease

752
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,079
accidents now are you taking the b3

753
00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:46,400
would you close the door the feed limit

754
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:51,290
fine i'm going to slow traffic

755
00:37:51,290 --> 00:38:02,790
[Music]

756
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,839
guess when it gets a ticket you're gonna

757
00:38:05,839 --> 00:38:06,800
get them there

758
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,160
i guess it would be the sheriff's

759
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,079
department yeah but they just had to

760
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:16,710
re-talk on their own

761
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:18,880
they sit and talk on their phones at the

762
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,960
north in the town not the south end of

763
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,510
town

764
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,040
not the north end of the town where they

765
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,990
could be

766
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:51,109
but i've never seen anybody here

767
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:52,480
but then they'd have to come and ask

768
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,079
permission from the county to be able to

769
00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:55,680
put it up on that location

770
00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:00,320
right i think well the sheriff has

771
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,599
sheriff's office can put out a uh sign

772
00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:04,400
that

773
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,720
indicates how fast people are coming in

774
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:07,839
yeah right

775
00:39:07,839 --> 00:39:09,920
and they've they've just did that

776
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,040
recently

777
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,560
out here on grimes and it seems

778
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,720
but i've noticed it seems to slow people

779
00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:18,800
down

780
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,520
and i probably want to when we put up

781
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:22,960
those signs you probably

782
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,960
want the sheriff's office to put their

783
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,040
radar detection with the speed

784
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,359
indication sign out there for a while

785
00:39:31,359 --> 00:39:33,920
and make people more aware of the fact

786
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:34,400
that

787
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:42,480
they need to slow down

788
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,359
oh you had another there was another

789
00:39:45,359 --> 00:39:46,960
stop sign and another

790
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,079
small community that they put up just

791
00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:52,320
from one direction

792
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,880
with the thought of speed control but

793
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,400
that has since been

794
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:03,990
removed by everybody's agreement so

795
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,200
well this ain't getting no place um well

796
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:13,510
can we have this term can i have to turn

797
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,640
sure that's that's perfectly fine we

798
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,079
don't have a meeting

799
00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:20,400
about the third monday of each month so

800
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,160
it'll be

801
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,440
third monday in september which is

802
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,630
uh

803
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,720
24th of september okay

804
00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:38,480
now before it ever

805
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,480
go ahead with the resolutions about

806
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,160
speed limits because

807
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,160
those are reasonable anyway and uh

808
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,560
go ahead and do that i mean well yeah

809
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,160
you can have everything all

810
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,119
put in place ready to go but we can wait

811
00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:55,920
until the 21st of september

812
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,000
uh after their counter of your city

813
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:58,960
attorney has had

814
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,800
a chance to look at everything that the

815
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,640
county attorney has looked at

816
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:08,069
when it comes to this so that uh

817
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:11,119
just for a matter of uh

818
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:14,800
i don't know but reach out to your city

819
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,400
attorney and have them

820
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:33,030
contact county attorney's office and

821
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,720
harvest season and

822
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:39,760
do you have any objections about what

823
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,880
putting on the speed limit

824
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,000
out there at the city limit line and

825
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:46,720
then

826
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:55,910
you might

827
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,440
it is the county accounting jurisdiction

828
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:00,240
on that

829
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:03,520
because of the i mean even through town

830
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,160
because they have less than 500

831
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,319
population

832
00:42:08,319 --> 00:42:11,990
which is not like fairfield

833
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,440
where fairfield would really have to say

834
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:16,160
um

835
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:22,950
roads going through therapy

836
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,800
okay all right

837
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,119
we'll look to talk to you on the 21st

838
00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:31,359
what time is your meetings

839
00:42:31,359 --> 00:42:39,190
seven o'clock and where the uh community

840
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:51,829
yep okay thank you

841
00:42:51,839 --> 00:43:03,589
all right

842
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:05,680
so next we're going to move on to

843
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,119
discuss and consider board of

844
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:09,200
supervisors civil service commission we

845
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:17,589
already did that

846
00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:19,599
now we're going to discuss and consider

847
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:23,270
weed commissioner change

848
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,720
okay we each received um

849
00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:30,550
letters on this

850
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,359
um i gotta send your phone like a

851
00:43:33,359 --> 00:43:35,680
comment before we start

852
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,680
it would have been helpful to do this at

853
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,599
the start of the budget here this

854
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:43,200
is coming because florida health got

855
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:43,920
this piece

856
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,599
back to them within budget year

857
00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:49,839
and all this kind of stuff should not be

858
00:43:49,839 --> 00:43:52,720
p small that should go as a package

859
00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:56,390
just my personal opinion

860
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:08,560
well i i yeah

861
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,670
and uh

862
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,040
so i reached out to brent to scott

863
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,760
and i also called mark and i talked to

864
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,520
melissa

865
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,040
and while certainly what what dan

866
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,400
is is recommending is

867
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,870
can be done um

868
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:36,000
it does increase

869
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,640
does require reporting changes in terms

870
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:39,760
of

871
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:49,270
salaries

872
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,200
and if um we control this work

873
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:57,119
then it has to be designated on this

874
00:44:57,119 --> 00:44:59,760
time sheet for lack of a better word

875
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:00,400
which would

876
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,240
fall to the responsibility of both the

877
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:04,079
individual trying to keep track

878
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:07,280
of time which agreement for

879
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,440
real that it would be minimal but

880
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,920
nonetheless keep track of the time

881
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,720
then report that time to mark who then

882
00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:16,480
adjusts

883
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,359
their time sheet to reflect what portion

884
00:45:19,359 --> 00:45:20,800
comes out of their own department what

885
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,599
portion comes out of the recommendation

886
00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:25,920
uh our road crew generally speaking i

887
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,440
think scott and i are in agreement with

888
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,720
this they're paying attention to the

889
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:33,440
road as well they should be

890
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,720
and we never have had somebody go out

891
00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:37,280
and just

892
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,720
you know cruise down the road and look

893
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:40,640
to see if d you've got

894
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:46,240
noxious weeds we recognize that

895
00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:50,400
we state that the property owner is

896
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,319
responsible for the noxious means of the

897
00:45:52,319 --> 00:45:53,119
nation

898
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:55,200
not the county so it's their

899
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,400
responsibility to mitigate those

900
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,000
whatever they happen to be um

901
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,000
i think correctly from wrongdoing we

902
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,760
pretty well handle it by complaint

903
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,040
or if you happen to be out there in the

904
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,750
second video

905
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,950
right

906
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,720
so it goes back to what i said you know

907
00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:16,480
our road crew guys are out doing

908
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,000
something they're not specific unless

909
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,520
you know unless you get a complaint then

910
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,359
brent must have to go out respond would

911
00:46:23,359 --> 00:46:24,640
have to go out or you

912
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,720
send billy out or whatever my point is that

913
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:32,230
um

914
00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:35,280
we have budgeted three thousand dollars

915
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,640
to recommission wheat commission is

916
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,240
under the board of supervisors

917
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:41,119
and correctly points that out uh i did

918
00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:42,800
talk to those hudson they're willing to

919
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,319
take it on and do it while they're doing

920
00:46:44,319 --> 00:46:46,000
their nuisance work

921
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,240
and you know when they're going out and

922
00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:50,160
in fact in a lot of instances it might

923
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,839
aid in a better nuisance a little bit

924
00:46:51,839 --> 00:46:53,280
because a lot of the weeds and stuff

925
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,520
that we run into on property are

926
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,630
not just wheat

927
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,839
and so it would be

928
00:47:01,839 --> 00:47:03,760
i don't know if we i don't know that i

929
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,160
would say that it would be

930
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,280
um don't misunderstand how this sounds

931
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,640
any greater coverage or any i mean okay

932
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,480
what we're just simply saying is is that

933
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:15,920
in the process

934
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,880
and again if there's a complaint as does

935
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:19,440
damn

936
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,720
they would review it but there would be

937
00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:24,400
they would do it for the three thousand

938
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,400
dollars

939
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,880
how much time do you spend in the air

940
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,800
again

941
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,599
average the average over the past nine

942
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:35,119
years was 49

943
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:38,319
hours a year this past fiscal year was

944
00:47:38,319 --> 00:47:41,510
61 hours

945
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,640
what was the uh increase due to

946
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,880
well that was averaged over nine years

947
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,440
right but this last year you said there

948
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,559
was 61.

949
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:55,520
so it's gradually gone up as people you

950
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:56,079
know now

951
00:47:56,079 --> 00:47:57,760
they've called me to complain about

952
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,680
leading up the website on the

953
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:06,000
third week county website

954
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,240
okay and i do of the three thousand

955
00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:09,359
dollars that

956
00:48:09,359 --> 00:48:12,240
uh is allowed to you what portion of

957
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:14,640
that goes to your recertification

958
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,319
and um schooling that's required

959
00:48:18,319 --> 00:48:20,400
of the weed commissioner there's

960
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,160
publication

961
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,040
so that's part of the budget every every

962
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:25,520
april

963
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,280
put out a public legal code and then

964
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:34,160
uh education um

965
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,200
i usually go to the aims to the

966
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,520
wheat commissioner's conference right so

967
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:40,240
there's cross

968
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:43,280
there it's about 300 right

969
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,200
here um and then the rest

970
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,240
is for actually the

971
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:52,319
rest of it is really for if you need to

972
00:48:52,319 --> 00:48:53,839
hire somebody

973
00:48:53,839 --> 00:48:57,599
go out and do spraying or mowing

974
00:48:57,599 --> 00:49:00,480
like a third party to go on some of your

975
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,400
property and do that work

976
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,200
which i've never had to do that i've had

977
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,559
to write letters and then have the

978
00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:07,440
attorney

979
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,880
i'll write legal letters to people

980
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,920
and usually they'll respond

981
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:19,520
so i haven't had that but the total of that three thousand dollars all

982
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,040
of those things that you just spoke

983
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:21,440
about

984
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,520
come out of that three thousand dollars

985
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,440
minus what you

986
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,599
your hourly rate is when you're out

987
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:29,839
there with it

988
00:49:29,839 --> 00:49:32,160
so we're not talking about just three

989
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,000
thousand dollars here we're talking

990
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,309
probably in the vicinity of it

991
00:49:38,319 --> 00:49:40,400
okay just a second ago you said it

992
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,839
didn't so that was why i was asking

993
00:49:42,839 --> 00:49:46,480
again publication

994
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,119
education and then if we did need to

995
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:50,160
hire someone

996
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,559
which i've never had to so that money's

997
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:54,079
been spent on that

998
00:49:54,079 --> 00:49:58,240
so and then about nine years ago

999
00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:01,119
the board of supervisors said the

1000
00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:02,559
recommissioner's budget

1001
00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:07,589
can

1002
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:10,000
basically pay the environmental health

1003
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:10,640
department

1004
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,800
for the time that the sanitarians spent

1005
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,240
on weekends so

1006
00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:16,400
the beginning when i first took it on

1007
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,599
which was

1008
00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:19,440
supervisor said oh by the way the

1009
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,960
sanitarian usually does the wheat

1010
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,559
pressure

1011
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:25,410
so there's no there's no um

1012
00:50:25,410 --> 00:50:26,640
[Music]

1013
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,480
compensation for the time that the

1014
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:29,680
sanitarium

1015
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:35,349
spent on means the first like six years

1016
00:50:35,359 --> 00:50:37,599
and then board decided to do that

1017
00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:38,559
compensation

1018
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:52,829
so that's

1019
00:50:52,839 --> 00:50:59,510
yes

1020
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,280
as far as russ goes we don't

1021
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:02,720
particularly have a dog behind it's just

1022
00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:03,359
simply

1023
00:51:03,359 --> 00:51:04,960
i didn't get the impression from scott

1024
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,480
that he was particularly enamored with

1025
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,559
the idea um

1026
00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:11,280
but as i look at it with the 61 hours

1027
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,960
we're talking about an hour a week i

1028
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,200
mean how can that be

1029
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,960
um no i'm not i'm not

1030
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,480
completely oblivious to the fact that

1031
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,720
you may have six hours this week

1032
00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:24,480
and no hours for the next six weeks i

1033
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,319
understand

1034
00:51:26,319 --> 00:51:29,920
what my my point simply is is that

1035
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,160
if all we're required to do is have a

1036
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,839
wheat commissioner

1037
00:51:34,839 --> 00:51:38,400
and put out public notice

1038
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,720
uh and respond to complaints i don't

1039
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:41,760
think

1040
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,440
um if the situation

1041
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,119
needed to be that we needed to go out

1042
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:48,800
and spray something we have people that

1043
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,119
can do that without hiring it

1044
00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:55,030
to the outsider

1045
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,480
but we wouldn't be doing it on private

1046
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:57,599
land anyway it would be the

1047
00:51:57,599 --> 00:51:59,359
responsibility of the proper home to do

1048
00:51:59,359 --> 00:52:00,720
it on private land

1049
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:03,040
they've been noticed that they're being

1050
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,480
uh or there's

1051
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:05,680
they've been certain notice that they

1052
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,599
need to eradicate the weeds now unless

1053
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:09,119
what you're saying is that they don't

1054
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:10,319
you do

1055
00:52:10,319 --> 00:52:12,559
right if they don't then then is that

1056
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:14,319
where we've already got the legal

1057
00:52:14,319 --> 00:52:15,520
requirement to actually

1058
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,440
then is that charged back to the

1059
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,670
property owner yeah

1060
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,640
and i'm not what i'm saying is is that

1061
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,800
um

1062
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:31,599
it if we'd act strictly on complaint

1063
00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:35,280
um then i see

1064
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:36,800
i don't see the need to budget three

1065
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,720
thousand dollars a year

1066
00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:41,599
number one number two uh if we act

1067
00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:45,359
strictly on complaint then i suppose

1068
00:52:45,359 --> 00:52:47,040
you know branch or somebody from the

1069
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,720
engineer's office could run out and see whether or not then you've got

1070
00:52:50,720 --> 00:52:52,319
to write the laws i guess the question

1071
00:52:52,319 --> 00:52:56,309
amen

1072
00:52:56,319 --> 00:52:59,440
and so what i'm saying is that

1073
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,520
without increasing the budget we have an

1074
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:02,640
entity that can do

1075
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,839
all of that right okay

1076
00:53:05,839 --> 00:53:08,559
however into darren's thought process i

1077
00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:08,880
think

1078
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,440
is and to dance we don't generally spend

1079
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,040
the entire enchilada

1080
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,520
during the course of the year correct

1081
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:22,630
but in this case if we uh gave it to

1082
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,200
for us it would be the entire enchilada

1083
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:26,400
they would make sure that they had a

1084
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,319
certification they could do this

1085
00:53:28,319 --> 00:53:30,640
i mean they you know as far as that

1086
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,000
aspect of it goes

1087
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,680
but why can't they just absorb this and

1088
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,240
what they're doing already

1089
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:40,000
i'm not saying that they can't i'm

1090
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:41,440
saying that

1091
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:45,270
um

1092
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,839
taking i mean i mean i could certainly

1093
00:53:47,839 --> 00:53:49,839
ask that question

1094
00:53:49,839 --> 00:54:05,109
for that

1095
00:54:05,119 --> 00:54:07,040
it's like what's next you know there's

1096
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,319
public health

1097
00:54:08,319 --> 00:54:16,790
board gets

1098
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,720
i asked dan that question are we talking

1099
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:20,160
immediately are we talking about

1100
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,359
the fiscal year his comment was

1101
00:54:23,359 --> 00:54:24,240
immediately

1102
00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:25,680
or you know he wanted to write the

1103
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,880
letter to bring everybody up to speed

1104
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,760
and so that's the reason that we're

1105
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:32,880
discussing it now

1106
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:46,390
is because yeah

1107
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,400
i don't know that's just my initial

1108
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:49,920
feeling i don't think

1109
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,680
the hours that you're putting in and i

1110
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,280
don't mean this this recently i just

1111
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:54,799
don't think it's an inordinate amount of

1112
00:54:54,799 --> 00:54:55,599
time

1113
00:54:55,599 --> 00:54:58,640
that you produced your hours at uh

1114
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,640
you know to the board of health but you

1115
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,559
also knew what you were getting into

1116
00:55:02,559 --> 00:55:04,799
when you asked to do that

1117
00:55:04,799 --> 00:55:20,160
you've

1118
00:55:20,170 --> 00:55:32,789
[Music]

1119
00:55:32,799 --> 00:55:35,839
so they're paying no to do it no

1120
00:55:35,839 --> 00:55:37,920
that was he talking now you just told

1121
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,680
him you just told him

1122
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,720
up until this year up until

1123
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:47,359
fiscal year 21 there's no reimbursement

1124
00:55:47,359 --> 00:55:49,680
from the commissioner's budget to the

1125
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,079
environmental health

1126
00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:54,240
i must have misunderstood i thought it

1127
00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:55,839
used to be yes

1128
00:55:55,839 --> 00:55:58,880
i misunderstood as well i think what dan

1129
00:55:58,880 --> 00:55:59,760
is saying

1130
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,520
if chris was here i think she would say

1131
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:02,640
correct because i know i've had

1132
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:03,599
conversations

1133
00:56:03,599 --> 00:56:06,000
with her in past years where they do

1134
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,040
track

1135
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,559
how much of his time is spent

1136
00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:13,839
right so i don't think

1137
00:56:13,839 --> 00:56:15,839
it has been now we should check with

1138
00:56:15,839 --> 00:56:17,280
chris before we

1139
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,880
verify that here's the reason we

1140
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,359
checked with chris and and my assumption

1141
00:56:23,359 --> 00:56:24,640
was the same as darren's

1142
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,839
mine was two based on

1143
00:56:28,839 --> 00:56:31,040
years that three thousand dollars it was

1144
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,079
for the cost

1145
00:56:32,079 --> 00:56:35,359
of the week commission now

1146
00:56:35,359 --> 00:56:39,040
if if you know if nobody's invoiced or

1147
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,720
has been reimbursed or

1148
00:56:40,720 --> 00:56:43,119
he didn't he didn't what do you want to

1149
00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:44,160
call it

1150
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,319
uh provide a claim whatever the case may

1151
00:56:46,319 --> 00:56:48,640
be the money was there for that purpose

1152
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,319
that's the reason the board put that

1153
00:56:50,319 --> 00:56:53,359
look if we're not going to do

1154
00:56:53,359 --> 00:56:56,160
if all the dan's done up to this point

1155
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,440
and i'm not saying this is small i'm

1156
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,799
just saying all that's been done up to

1157
00:56:58,799 --> 00:56:59,760
this point is

1158
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,079
the public notice the writing of the

1159
00:57:02,079 --> 00:57:03,040
letters

1160
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,160
uh and you know potentially all we ever

1161
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,200
have the hiring

1162
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,640
of somebody to go out and spray

1163
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,799
but we've never paid for it there was no

1164
00:57:12,799 --> 00:57:14,400
point to have three thousand dollars set

1165
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:15,839
aside in that bucket and there still

1166
00:57:15,839 --> 00:57:17,520
isn't

1167
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,200
you know now this year uh

1168
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,640
i don't know what made this year

1169
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,160
different other than you've reduced your

1170
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,000
hours so is the board of health getting

1171
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,760
reimbursed or are you getting paid

1172
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,200
so part of the negotiation to lower my

1173
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:33,760
hours

1174
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,359
lower my cost was because russ said

1175
00:57:37,359 --> 00:57:40,000
they would do the week commissioner part

1176
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:40,720
of it

1177
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:44,640
for nothing that's right

1178
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:48,799
okay and i said okay i will do it

1179
00:57:48,799 --> 00:57:51,119
environmental health will do it for zero

1180
00:57:51,119 --> 00:57:52,960
and that's for this fiscal year

1181
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,200
prior to this fiscal year yeah i would

1182
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,760
turn in a claim at the end of the year

1183
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,000
for the time that i spent doing

1184
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:00,960
commissioner

1185
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,839
things and therefore i would get

1186
00:58:03,839 --> 00:58:06,799
reimbursed from the lead commissioner

1187
00:58:06,799 --> 00:58:08,960
environmental health would get

1188
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:10,720
reimbursed from the weak commissioner's

1189
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:11,440
budget

1190
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,760
for that time that i spent okay so

1191
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,359
that's not going to happen this year all

1192
00:58:15,359 --> 00:58:16,240
right

1193
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,880
is that am i making myself clear yeah

1194
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:19,520
okay so

1195
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,280
it has been in the past you've changed

1196
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:22,640
it to this year that's right

1197
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,400
okay i misunderstood but i go back to my

1198
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:26,960
point

1199
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,640
it's it's not under the jurisdiction for

1200
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,799
the board of health

1201
00:58:30,799 --> 00:58:34,559
we could still not pay you correct

1202
00:58:34,559 --> 00:58:36,480
or to reimburse them for the time that

1203
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:37,920
you spend on that as part of the

1204
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:38,720
partnership

1205
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,480
so i guess the question then that needs

1206
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,160
to be answered from your

1207
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,599
perspective because you're the one

1208
00:58:43,599 --> 00:58:48,829
that's out there in the weeds

1209
00:58:48,839 --> 00:58:53,760
is our construction business in the

1210
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,599
unincorporated areas of the county

1211
00:58:55,599 --> 00:58:58,880
so good uh

1212
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,839
or in those communities that aren't

1213
00:59:02,839 --> 00:59:06,240
seward as we don't have it in account

1214
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,920
um are we so busy that

1215
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,920
uh it takes all your time now to do that

1216
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:16,240
as opposed to one hour a week well it's not what i wanted to

1217
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:21,430
point out so

1218
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,760
and i'm doing state mosquito

1219
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:24,720
surveillance

1220
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,640
right now so that's three three times a

1221
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,400
week i have to collect these fields

1222
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,200
that brings in more revenue in the whole

1223
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:32,880
commissioner budget

1224
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,119
okay and then i have the pool

1225
00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:37,200
inspections painting inspections tattoo

1226
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:38,319
inspections

1227
00:59:38,319 --> 00:59:40,880
i do i usually do the state well survey

1228
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:41,440
too

1229
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,319
this time here they decided not to do it

1230
00:59:44,319 --> 00:59:45,760
this year but they usually do it this

1231
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:46,799
time

1232
00:59:46,799 --> 00:59:50,000
um it's just and of course

1233
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,520
septic systems climate transfers

1234
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:57,829
how many steps

1235
00:59:57,839 --> 01:00:03,760
uh it was probably around 65 or so

1236
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,960
and what time did they putting in

1237
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:14,720
yeah mostly standard brokers

1238
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,079
and then and then there's time and

1239
01:00:16,079 --> 01:00:17,839
transfer instructions

1240
01:00:17,839 --> 01:00:23,510
that which brought in last let's go here

1241
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:27,200
so i'm going to go back to you um

1242
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,480
if i am stating this incorrectly please

1243
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:31,680
say so but i

1244
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,359
felt like that you would prefer not

1245
01:00:33,359 --> 01:00:34,960
being

1246
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,720
or in the engineering department or in

1247
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,829
the room commissioner

1248
01:00:40,839 --> 01:00:44,789
um

1249
01:00:44,799 --> 01:00:48,630
i can reach out to see

1250
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:53,349
what arrangements can be made

1251
01:00:53,359 --> 01:00:56,880
do you want to wait

1252
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,480
i want to be here do you want to wait

1253
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,079
till budget time before you make the

1254
01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:01,839
change and let this fiscal year

1255
01:01:01,839 --> 01:01:04,079
close i mean that's insane this will

1256
01:01:04,079 --> 01:01:05,599
kind of depend on what russ

1257
01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:15,990
says partially but that's my preference

1258
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,319
well things can be overlooked when it

1259
01:01:18,319 --> 01:01:20,000
comes to budget time

1260
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,680
that this was changed in september

1261
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,960
and now we're in march and it's like

1262
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,680
well what did we do then as soon as you

1263
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,200
remember oh yeah that was only part of

1264
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,000
the year

1265
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,079
right right when you look back

1266
01:01:36,079 --> 01:01:39,520
guys the opportunity into the budget

1267
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:40,000
year

1268
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,200
to uh just say russ says no

1269
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:44,799
we're not going to do it that way it

1270
01:01:44,799 --> 01:01:46,559
gives you the opportunity to explore

1271
01:01:46,559 --> 01:01:48,880
other options before you make a decision

1272
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,839
right now it's kind of rushed

1273
01:01:50,839 --> 01:01:55,750
right

1274
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:57,599
actually it's a good time to bring it so

1275
01:01:57,599 --> 01:01:59,119
this is time to

1276
01:01:59,119 --> 01:02:02,390
look at options right

1277
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:06,160
i think if there's some

1278
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,680
kind of engineering departments out

1279
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,680
there to

1280
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,359
take care of the wheat conditioning i

1281
01:02:13,359 --> 01:02:14,799
mean they must have

1282
01:02:14,799 --> 01:02:16,960
i mean there's some people that have

1283
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,559
somebody that takes care of all the

1284
01:02:18,559 --> 01:02:20,160
planting

1285
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,760
and doesn't does a lot of things

1286
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,760
with um with those kinds of related

1287
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:28,559
issues

1288
01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:30,960
but it's still all in the right way i

1289
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,680
mean i don't know how you have

1290
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:37,119
i guess we should actually speak to

1291
01:02:37,119 --> 01:02:38,799
one of these counties that are listed

1292
01:02:38,799 --> 01:02:40,240
here johnson musk

1293
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,760
team scott benton iowa dallas

1294
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,640
des moines henry and wapelo counties

1295
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,559
have their wheat commissioners

1296
01:02:48,559 --> 01:02:51,839
on their county roadways so

1297
01:02:51,839 --> 01:02:55,119
henry and wappalow are smaller than

1298
01:02:55,119 --> 01:02:58,480
i think the rest of those

1299
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,799
like scott county they they've got

1300
01:03:00,799 --> 01:03:03,200
probably three times as many staffers

1301
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,039
well that's the thing that's the thing

1302
01:03:05,039 --> 01:03:07,039
if if

1303
01:03:07,039 --> 01:03:11,039
you reach out to these counties um

1304
01:03:11,039 --> 01:03:13,440
and i can call their county supervisors

1305
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,039
and i can talk to mark at the next

1306
01:03:15,039 --> 01:03:16,799
school meeting okay the reason i say

1307
01:03:16,799 --> 01:03:18,559
that is is because i would like to know

1308
01:03:18,559 --> 01:03:20,240
whether or not they have somebody on

1309
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:20,799
staff

1310
01:03:20,799 --> 01:03:24,160
time that does that what their policies

1311
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,599
are before it's not going to be a

1312
01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:29,280
decision that i make but i think it's

1313
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,200
information about me

1314
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:32,960
because if we're talking if we're

1315
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,280
talking about what we're doing with dan

1316
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,039
and maybe we've taken advantage of dan

1317
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:38,000
over the years but if we're talking

1318
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:39,280
about what we're doing with dan as

1319
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:40,400
opposed to

1320
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,039
bringing a body on you know even

1321
01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:44,160
part-time

1322
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,319
with benefits i in other words paying

1323
01:03:46,319 --> 01:03:47,839
the ideas paying me

1324
01:03:47,839 --> 01:03:50,400
um and maybe we've had the best of both

1325
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:51,520
worlds here

1326
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,880
i'm not saying that we haven't but um

1327
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,319
here's an opportunity to get all your

1328
01:03:56,319 --> 01:03:57,520
ducks involved before you make a

1329
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:58,319
decision

1330
01:03:58,319 --> 01:04:01,119
right and i know maybe that's not what

1331
01:04:01,119 --> 01:04:03,440
you want at this point but we're

1332
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:07,359
you know we're about three and

1333
01:04:07,359 --> 01:04:09,920
we're starting we're not even through

1334
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:10,400
the first

1335
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,520
quarter of this fiscal year

1336
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,680
so yeah no i didn't that might be one of

1337
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,119
the decisions and that's fine i just

1338
01:04:19,119 --> 01:04:20,880
felt content

1339
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,319
because i put environmental health first

1340
01:04:24,319 --> 01:04:26,280
and then

1341
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:37,990
[Music]

1342
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,760
and go ahead and talk to bruce let's see

1343
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,039
what he says

1344
01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:42,640
so like you say now is a good time to

1345
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,720
have a discussion so we can get some

1346
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,039
information

1347
01:04:47,039 --> 01:04:50,160
so i will i'll do that what scott's

1348
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,839
preference is

1349
01:04:52,839 --> 01:05:07,190
um

1350
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,839
if you could just look those up and then

1351
01:05:09,839 --> 01:05:10,720
email me

1352
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,720
well especially henry because that's one

1353
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:14,960
yeah but i can call i can call

1354
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,520
greg muller and i can call jerry parker

1355
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:18,960
and get those answers

1356
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,839
it's just you know or jim carrey for des

1357
01:05:21,839 --> 01:05:23,520
moines county in fact i have a meeting

1358
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:27,839
with well not with jerry with reagan and

1359
01:05:27,839 --> 01:05:33,359
jim um about two weeks so i can bring that up you know as far as

1360
01:05:33,359 --> 01:05:34,799
that part goes

1361
01:05:34,799 --> 01:05:40,470
um

1362
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,319
so we're going to reach out to those

1363
01:05:42,319 --> 01:05:44,400
folks

1364
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,680
but it may be appropriate to to

1365
01:05:47,680 --> 01:06:03,109
reach out to the engineer's office

1366
01:06:03,119 --> 01:06:05,359
if they're reimbursed that way or if

1367
01:06:05,359 --> 01:06:06,559
that's just

1368
01:06:06,559 --> 01:06:08,640
a duty that's covered by the road

1369
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:09,680
department

1370
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,319
they may have an assistant a county

1371
01:06:12,319 --> 01:06:13,680
engineer to the assistant county

1372
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,079
engineer i don't know

1373
01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:18,720
just they may have multiple duties of

1374
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:20,400
course now aaron has mentioned that he's

1375
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,000
got a couple hours a week that he's

1376
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,440
trying to fill

1377
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:28,850
so anyway one other thing

1378
01:06:28,860 --> 01:06:51,750
[Music]

1379
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,839
they need to be certified because

1380
01:06:53,839 --> 01:06:55,119
they're actually uh

1381
01:06:55,119 --> 01:07:11,589
they're doing they're not they're not

1382
01:07:11,599 --> 01:07:15,039
so to operate the boomer you have to be

1383
01:07:15,039 --> 01:07:16,240
certified

1384
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,760
uh because it it has some

1385
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:39,750
amount of uh herbicide in the blades protecting the ground

1386
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:45,430
looking for

1387
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,319
there's certain properties where where

1388
01:07:48,319 --> 01:07:50,400
the county owns the land

1389
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,119
next to the road so we take care of

1390
01:07:53,119 --> 01:07:53,680
those

1391
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:57,119
but it would be an expansion of duties

1392
01:07:57,119 --> 01:07:58,799
to be

1393
01:07:58,799 --> 01:08:00,880
having to deal with private property

1394
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,349
owners

1395
01:08:03,359 --> 01:08:08,829
and and nobody in the office was

1396
01:08:08,839 --> 01:08:10,960
certified

1397
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,799
okay all right we'll bring this up later

1398
01:08:14,799 --> 01:08:17,359
and uh we'll have more discussion on it

1399
01:08:17,359 --> 01:08:18,000
before the

1400
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,040
uh budget time starts thank you yep

1401
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:24,640
thank you all right let's uh move on

1402
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,679
to discuss and consider property tax

1403
01:08:27,679 --> 01:08:31,829
suspensions

1404
01:08:31,839 --> 01:09:13,269
um yeah that would be good

1405
01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:16,719
appears we have four of these

1406
01:09:16,719 --> 01:09:19,839
that we're looking at while we're still

1407
01:09:19,839 --> 01:09:21,120
waiting for mark

1408
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:25,510
and this is the annual

1409
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,719
oh and that yes sorry i

1410
01:09:28,719 --> 01:09:30,640
missed that one laying in my pile thank

1411
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,159
you abby

1412
01:09:32,159 --> 01:09:35,440
i appreciate that so we have five

1413
01:09:35,440 --> 01:09:45,189
actually that we're looking at

1414
01:09:45,199 --> 01:09:49,440
all uh right talking about the

1415
01:09:49,440 --> 01:09:52,880
property tax suspensions

1416
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,320
um we have four of them

1417
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:59,360
laid out here that your office and one

1418
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:00,960
that's a

1419
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,320
written request um

1420
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:04,960
[Music]

1421
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,040
is there any comments or anything that

1422
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:08,400
we need to know about this

1423
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,040
and how this is going to reflect most of

1424
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,830
it

1425
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:18,149
um

1426
01:10:18,159 --> 01:10:23,270
but the ones from dhs are basically

1427
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,000
right which are the four that we have

1428
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,440
printed

1429
01:10:27,440 --> 01:10:31,280
from your offices okay so i would make a

1430
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:31,760
motion

1431
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,920
to approve those property tax

1432
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:35,440
suspensions

1433
01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:40,550
uh that were eligible through dhs

1434
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,199
okay we have four of them that were

1435
01:10:43,199 --> 01:10:44,480
approved through

1436
01:10:44,480 --> 01:10:47,920
dhs we have emotions from endemic and a

1437
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:49,360
second from sandquist

1438
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,960
to approve those all those in favor say

1439
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:54,000
aye

1440
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,880
all those opposed same sign motion

1441
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:58,000
carries

1442
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,920
all right now uh this one concerning the

1443
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:06,950
johnsons

1444
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,520
is there anything specific that we need

1445
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:10,880
to know about this mark

1446
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:22,709
that is coming through your office

1447
01:11:22,719 --> 01:11:26,159
no this was a written request

1448
01:11:26,159 --> 01:11:28,960
coming through this is the one that has

1449
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:29,360
gone

1450
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:32,400
through the usda it was best road

1451
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,480
from a mortgage way back in the early

1452
01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:35,440
90s

1453
01:11:35,440 --> 01:11:38,640
and somehow we

1454
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,760
were doing suspensions

1455
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:46,080
as though they weren't through dhs after

1456
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:50,080
quite a bit of looking into it

1457
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,040
on our part we found that that is

1458
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:54,800
supposed to be escrow

1459
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,480
the usda is supposed to be taking care

1460
01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:58,320
of it so in that sense

1461
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:01,199
mr johnson is correct the part that mr

1462
01:12:01,199 --> 01:12:02,719
johnson didn't understand was

1463
01:12:02,719 --> 01:12:05,280
he still opposed that but that's between

1464
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:06,800
him and the usda

1465
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,920
so these taxes should not be suspended

1466
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,000
because the usda should be paying them

1467
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:13,600
as they are

1468
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,159
okay and the fact is is that he was

1469
01:12:16,159 --> 01:12:18,800
paying his monthly well

1470
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:22,960
for state of uh

1471
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:24,400
and they were supposed to be setting

1472
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,560
aside x amount of dollars out of that

1473
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,360
taxes they failed to do so it's his

1474
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:30,560
property

1475
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:34,640
so to speak and he's responsible for it

1476
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,760
but he gave them the money this is

1477
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,760
sorry i don't know no no that's fine

1478
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,040
this wasn't the

1479
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:46,239
same there was that guy that was in here

1480
01:12:46,239 --> 01:13:01,110
not long ago

1481
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:06,080
no this is the one that comes every year

1482
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,199
so it's good information to know that

1483
01:13:09,199 --> 01:13:13,199
yeah there was quite a bit of

1484
01:13:13,199 --> 01:13:16,560
a past new balance right that usda

1485
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:26,950
has taken

1486
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,440
so there's there's really no action that

1487
01:13:29,440 --> 01:13:31,360
the board can take when it comes to this

1488
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:32,320
application

1489
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,400
then that's what we're hearing doesn't

1490
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:35,840
it

1491
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,800
okay are you still on if we don't act on

1492
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:39,199
it

1493
01:13:39,199 --> 01:13:42,239
yes pat is still with us yes make sure

1494
01:13:42,239 --> 01:13:45,679
do we just just simply by motion deny

1495
01:13:45,679 --> 01:13:48,960
the application or is there some warning that we need to include in

1496
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,920
that or do we just not ask on that

1497
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,760
right you can you cannot act on it you

1498
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,520
can deny it you can do

1499
01:13:55,520 --> 01:14:08,870
either of those things

1500
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:13,120
to deny the property tax expansion

1501
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:18,630
for james and joanne johnson

1502
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,199
based on the information that's part of

1503
01:14:21,199 --> 01:14:25,110
their escrow with investigating

1504
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,440
all right i have a motion from dimmett a

1505
01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:28,960
second from sandquist

1506
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,600
to deny this application from property

1507
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:32,719
tax suspension

1508
01:14:32,719 --> 01:14:36,960
for james and jolene johnson

1509
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:40,560
all those in favor say hi hi

1510
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:43,199
all those opposed same sign motion

1511
01:14:43,199 --> 01:14:45,360
carries

1512
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,560
so thank you very much mark i appreciate

1513
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:53,350
the information that you gave us

1514
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:58,590
okay now we'll move on to make committee

1515
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:03,350
reports

1516
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:06,080
they're working on establishing

1517
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:09,270
community

1518
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,840
in a indicators survey which they

1519
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:13,280
typically do

1520
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:14,880
some examples are for some of the

1521
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,040
children of poland organizations and out

1522
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:18,880
of three counties support jefferson

1523
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:19,440
county's

1524
01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:24,480
lowest lifers grandmother received

1525
01:15:24,480 --> 01:15:27,040
during first trimester children are in

1526
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:30,239
kindergarten with preschool experience

1527
01:15:30,239 --> 01:15:32,640
and there's several of these but um this

1528
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,040
is the kind of thing that they

1529
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:39,440
look at with their indicators of success

1530
01:15:39,440 --> 01:15:40,320
basically

1531
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,120
so i thought that might be of interest

1532
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:43,570
um

1533
01:15:43,570 --> 01:15:44,719
[Music]

1534
01:15:44,719 --> 01:15:48,080
then i also had brilliant

1535
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:52,080
summit which was through the iowa rural

1536
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:53,440
development commission

1537
01:15:53,440 --> 01:15:58,239
with um joshua

1538
01:15:58,239 --> 01:16:01,360
and that was virtual this year normally

1539
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:02,719
it would be somewhere

1540
01:16:02,719 --> 01:16:05,040
up north but it turned it was thursday

1541
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:06,560
and friday so it was

1542
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,000
informative to learn what other

1543
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,239
communities are doing and

1544
01:16:10,239 --> 01:16:13,120
some of the innovative things going on

1545
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:14,080
um

1546
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:15,000
met with

1547
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,440
[Music]

1548
01:16:17,440 --> 01:16:20,320
a citizen and a person is the marketing

1549
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:22,960
director for the well who's coming

1550
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,360
um to fairfield and of course code has

1551
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,040
slowed them down they kind of

1552
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:28,400
we're going to announce right around

1553
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:30,320
koga then they have announced now but

1554
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:31,760
they're coming and so

1555
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,159
they wanted to meet with me about

1556
01:16:34,159 --> 01:16:36,400
poverty and resources and things like

1557
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,400
that in careful so i spent some time

1558
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,560
with them the other day

1559
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:45,360
and gave them information about that

1560
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:49,040
food insecurity um

1561
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,840
and workforce development they're down

1562
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:53,120
to

1563
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,679
we need and workforce development local

1564
01:16:55,679 --> 01:16:56,640
board which is

1565
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,280
like 14 counties so it's not local as in

1566
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,199
jefferson county

1567
01:17:01,199 --> 01:17:04,080
but the way it's being redundant which

1568
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:05,760
is good 51

1569
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,760
of the members need to be businesses

1570
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:09,440
which is great that's the way it should

1571
01:17:09,440 --> 01:17:10,400
be

1572
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,480
and they need two more businesses i

1573
01:17:12,480 --> 01:17:14,480
asked one in town and they weren't able

1574
01:17:14,480 --> 01:17:15,280
to

1575
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:20,719
right now put their time commitments

1576
01:17:20,719 --> 01:17:23,120
that they need females because with any

1577
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:24,719
of these boards like this you need to

1578
01:17:24,719 --> 01:17:26,480
have a gender balance and other

1579
01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:28,320
requirements of the state

1580
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,960
so if there's any businesses out there

1581
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:32,960
that are interested in this most of it's

1582
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:34,719
virtual right now

1583
01:17:34,719 --> 01:17:37,840
um please let me know

1584
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:41,120
lee um i think

1585
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,520
nothing you're sharing met with the

1586
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:45,520
steve at the radio station last week and

1587
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,120
i think

1588
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,440
if my calculations are correct you will

1589
01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:51,280
meet next month

1590
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,040
i'll meet in october because you still

1591
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,040
won't be eligible so

1592
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:58,239
um that will be my small song okay

1593
01:17:58,239 --> 01:18:01,520
all right thank you for doing that lee

1594
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:03,760
i've been on the month before so i

1595
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,600
thought it would be good if we had

1596
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,480
making parents up there uh i had a

1597
01:18:08,480 --> 01:18:09,199
meeting with

1598
01:18:09,199 --> 01:18:12,400
uh semco this week

1599
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:16,239
we had a public hearing off of

1600
01:18:16,239 --> 01:18:18,159
through an environmental engineering

1601
01:18:18,159 --> 01:18:19,440
firm that

1602
01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:22,880
tracks movement of

1603
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:26,159
ground gas through monitoring wells

1604
01:18:26,159 --> 01:18:29,280
and we have found that

1605
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,520
we only have one monitoring well out

1606
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,040
there that has

1607
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:36,960
a hazard of methane gas

1608
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:40,080
leaching through it we have put into

1609
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:41,840
place mitigation

1610
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,880
strategy so that we can uh

1611
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,360
monitor the wealth more closely and find

1612
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:48,800
out how far

1613
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:52,550
that contamination spreads

1614
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,520
it's in keokuk county that's that's

1615
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:56,880
where the landfill is

1616
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,000
at uh sits right it's

1617
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,800
well on the site uh the wells are are

1618
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:04,640
placed on the perimeter of the site

1619
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,280
so that they can monitor what is running

1620
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:08,239
out from

1621
01:19:08,239 --> 01:19:10,880
the landfill there are some cells that

1622
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:12,159
aren't lined

1623
01:19:12,159 --> 01:19:13,760
out there and those are the ones that

1624
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:15,600
are being monitored more closely than

1625
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:20,560
the ones that are lined uh they also look for leakage

1626
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:22,159
which is

1627
01:19:22,159 --> 01:19:24,560
biomaterial that that flows through the

1628
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:26,400
ground along with it

1629
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:29,199
we do a real good job of collecting that

1630
01:19:29,199 --> 01:19:30,239
putting it into

1631
01:19:30,239 --> 01:19:33,280
a retaining pond and then pumping that

1632
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:35,199
pond and taking it to

1633
01:19:35,199 --> 01:19:37,199
different sewage treatment facilities in

1634
01:19:37,199 --> 01:19:38,560
order to be able to have that

1635
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:40,880
process to go back out into the

1636
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:42,880
environment at that point in time

1637
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:44,800
so where's nothing coming from do i know

1638
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,800
for sure um the methane comes

1639
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,920
from the decomposition of material out

1640
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:50,640
there

1641
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,199
in the fill and what i'm doing that is

1642
01:19:53,199 --> 01:19:53,679
in my

1643
01:19:53,679 --> 01:19:56,719
work with food waste we send so much

1644
01:19:56,719 --> 01:19:58,480
food waste

1645
01:19:58,480 --> 01:20:01,760
to the landfill that that's

1646
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:10,220
can be a cause

1647
01:20:10,230 --> 01:20:11,280
[Music]

1648
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,560
a root cause of what causes that

1649
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:18,400
what brings that methane out but um

1650
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,480
it is something that can be recommended

1651
01:20:20,480 --> 01:20:22,320
to the public that if they've got

1652
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:25,600
food waste such as potato peelings or

1653
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,159
cucumber peelings or whatever try to

1654
01:20:28,159 --> 01:20:30,239
compost that yourself

1655
01:20:30,239 --> 01:20:32,960
on site rather than running it down a

1656
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:34,080
garbage disposer

1657
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,719
or putting it into the trash to be taken

1658
01:20:36,719 --> 01:20:39,280
away by the

1659
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,239
trash outlet that we have here in the

1660
01:20:42,239 --> 01:20:44,800
community and other communities around

1661
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,000
um the the one key

1662
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,159
thing that that the environmental

1663
01:20:50,159 --> 01:20:51,360
engineer

1664
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:55,760
said and he works for a large number

1665
01:20:55,760 --> 01:21:00,159
of landfills across the state of iowa

1666
01:21:00,159 --> 01:21:02,880
we are the only landfill that over the

1667
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,040
last five-year time period have been

1668
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:06,000
able to lower

1669
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,639
our tipping fees because of how the

1670
01:21:08,639 --> 01:21:10,320
waste is handled

1671
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:16,560
out at our landfill and he says that screams volumes about the people

1672
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:17,040
that

1673
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,920
we have in place out there to not only

1674
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:21,920
be the contractor for the site

1675
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,960
to compact all the trash and to monitor

1676
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,280
the cells and the life of the cells

1677
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,520
as well as the director that we have on

1678
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:31,679
site out there

1679
01:21:31,679 --> 01:21:34,880
we do very well we're pretty much a

1680
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,920
zero gain when it comes to

1681
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:39,920
money that's taken into the landfill we

1682
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,400
have to put money aside for

1683
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,600
future cells that may be put online or

1684
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,199
have to be constructed

1685
01:21:47,199 --> 01:21:51,040
and purchase surrounding

1686
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:54,719
land to the landfill in order to do that

1687
01:21:54,719 --> 01:21:56,639
right now the neighbors were all

1688
01:21:56,639 --> 01:21:58,639
notified um

1689
01:21:58,639 --> 01:22:01,920
within what was it uh anybody that's

1690
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,239
within

1691
01:22:04,239 --> 01:22:08,159
250 or 300 feet of the landfill itself

1692
01:22:08,159 --> 01:22:09,840
as a neighboring property owner who was

1693
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:11,440
notified of this public

1694
01:22:11,440 --> 01:22:13,760
meeting we only had one person that was

1695
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:14,639
there and that's

1696
01:22:14,639 --> 01:22:17,760
uh mike hadley who is also on the board

1697
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,239
he's the supervisor in keokuk county

1698
01:22:20,239 --> 01:22:23,199
um he has property that sits right next

1699
01:22:23,199 --> 01:22:25,520
to the landfill itself and

1700
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,400
he says he's had no no problems with

1701
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:29,760
what's been going on

1702
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,800
over the years out there and uh we have

1703
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:33,360
been doing

1704
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:36,480
really well and we

1705
01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:38,639
are already discussing whether we want

1706
01:22:38,639 --> 01:22:40,560
to change our meetings from

1707
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:44,159
monthly to quarterly because

1708
01:22:44,159 --> 01:22:47,360
uh at one time a monthly meeting was

1709
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:49,199
necessary because

1710
01:22:49,199 --> 01:22:51,440
things were kind of in a disarray out

1711
01:22:51,440 --> 01:22:52,239
there

1712
01:22:52,239 --> 01:22:54,480
and now with the leadership that we have

1713
01:22:54,480 --> 01:22:55,840
we feel more comfortable

1714
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,239
that if we don't necessarily have any

1715
01:22:58,239 --> 01:23:00,480
item that truly needs to be

1716
01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:03,120
on discussion at that meeting that we

1717
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,280
not have a meeting that month

1718
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:07,600
we also found that through this coded

1719
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:08,800
time period

1720
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,280
that a quarterly meeting was more

1721
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:12,400
effective

1722
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,520
for us so i think we're we're

1723
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,840
trying to at least think about moving

1724
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:19,360
that direction

1725
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:22,880
so the landfill has been doing good you

1726
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:24,080
can still

1727
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,880
as a private individual you can still

1728
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:28,400
take your garbage out

1729
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,800
the landfill if you clean out your house

1730
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:31,920
you want to get rid of it all

1731
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,880
take it out there you can um it's good

1732
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:35,760
if you call

1733
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:38,159
ahead of time they will accommodate you

1734
01:23:38,159 --> 01:23:39,040
if you show up

1735
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,440
gate now previously they weren't doing

1736
01:23:41,440 --> 01:23:42,320
that because

1737
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:45,360
of coven restrictions and

1738
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:49,840
the staff out there is

1739
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:53,199
five total people so

1740
01:23:53,199 --> 01:23:55,600
if someone was having to come down with

1741
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:57,520
something then the whole staff would be

1742
01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:59,120
quarantined which means the whole

1743
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:00,960
landfill would be quarantined which

1744
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:01,760
means

1745
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:03,360
nothing would come in even from

1746
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:04,880
commercial haulers

1747
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:08,880
in that case so we found that there's

1748
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:13,199
a lot of a lot of electronic means that

1749
01:24:13,199 --> 01:24:15,199
we've utilized during this covid time

1750
01:24:15,199 --> 01:24:16,239
period that allows

1751
01:24:16,239 --> 01:24:18,639
truck drivers to stay in their trucks

1752
01:24:18,639 --> 01:24:19,679
people that bring

1753
01:24:19,679 --> 01:24:22,159
trash out to stay in their vehicles

1754
01:24:22,159 --> 01:24:24,320
while it's being taken off

1755
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:28,320
by the workers there at the plant

1756
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:31,120
you don't have to hand them a ticket any

1757
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:32,719
longer they can get the tickets

1758
01:24:32,719 --> 01:24:35,679
electronically for what they brought out

1759
01:24:35,679 --> 01:24:38,000
for weight and cost and all of that you

1760
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:39,199
can also pay

1761
01:24:39,199 --> 01:24:41,760
either there or you can pay

1762
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:43,679
electronically now

1763
01:24:43,679 --> 01:24:50,880
for that so we will continue those types of

1764
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:51,760
activities

1765
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:56,639
and move more towards a quote hands-free

1766
01:24:56,639 --> 01:24:58,800
situation when it comes to people

1767
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:03,520
bringing in waste and leaving the site so uh

1768
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,679
those those are some real positives that

1769
01:25:05,679 --> 01:25:07,040
we came from

1770
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:10,159
not only the review that we do uh with

1771
01:25:10,159 --> 01:25:10,639
our

1772
01:25:10,639 --> 01:25:12,800
environmental engineer for the site but

1773
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:13,679
as well as

1774
01:25:13,679 --> 01:25:16,800
site management and bill slu

1775
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:20,400
so i think we we do extremely well out

1776
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:21,679
there

1777
01:25:21,679 --> 01:25:24,800
all right um we'll move on to any public

1778
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:28,000
comments that we might have here

1779
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,239
anything you'd like to comment on i

1780
01:25:30,239 --> 01:25:31,840
guess

1781
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:50,870
sure um

1782
01:25:50,880 --> 01:26:01,430
and i'm used to

1783
01:26:01,440 --> 01:26:05,440
and and you know listed out some things

1784
01:26:05,440 --> 01:26:10,150
may be true

1785
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:20,470
[Music]

1786
01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:22,239
i thought that i was always free to be

1787
01:26:22,239 --> 01:26:23,760
able to

1788
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:26,560
do whatever i wanted to in the country

1789
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:27,600
um

1790
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:30,880
and so not only does it come as a shock

1791
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:31,360
but

1792
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,600
you know it's it's being it's i feel

1793
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,719
like it's being forced on me

1794
01:26:36,719 --> 01:26:39,760
you know that's being posed on me and if

1795
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:40,639
i don't do it

1796
01:26:40,639 --> 01:26:43,760
i'm threatened with a fight

1797
01:26:43,760 --> 01:27:02,830
or a video so i'm trying to adjust to that

1798
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:06,629
um

1799
01:27:06,639 --> 01:27:09,840
start cleaning it up but at the same

1800
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:10,960
time i'm wondering

1801
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:26,560
and why why is there this ordinance is it

1802
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,800
necessary

1803
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:33,360
can people who live in their country

1804
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:36,400
remotely i'm at the end of the ground

1805
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,600
road there might be one or two cars that

1806
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,270
come down that road each day

1807
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:53,270
and i have one neighbor

1808
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:56,400
and i don't expect

1809
01:27:56,400 --> 01:28:00,080
to talk with lee on that with

1810
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,639
i don't expect any special treatment you

1811
01:28:02,639 --> 01:28:04,880
know because of my situation or whatever

1812
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:08,000
i know you have to handle it equally for

1813
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:09,440
everybody

1814
01:28:09,440 --> 01:28:10,800
if you're going to have an ordinance it

1815
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,600
has to be across the line

1816
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,639
so um so i'm wondering is it possible

1817
01:28:16,639 --> 01:28:19,760
that you guys can consider

1818
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:23,199
this ordinance is it totally necessary

1819
01:28:23,199 --> 01:28:25,040
is it cost worthy

1820
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:27,520
or is it something that needs to be

1821
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:29,199
there

1822
01:28:29,199 --> 01:28:33,120
so that's that's my question

1823
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:34,560
is it something that should be willing

1824
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,830
to consider

1825
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,960
is it productive you know is it

1826
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,600
that's a great question yeah i mean

1827
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:45,040
there's a lot of people who won't live

1828
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:46,880
in the country

1829
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:51,040
and not be bothered by anybody you know

1830
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:55,600
that's the 64-hour question um when you

1831
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:57,520
weigh that against the cost

1832
01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:59,840
um that's something you know it's an

1833
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:01,280
actual question one that we've arm

1834
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:04,709
wrestled with not just this

1835
01:29:04,719 --> 01:29:07,920
makeup on previous boards um as

1836
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:09,199
i indicated to you during our

1837
01:29:09,199 --> 01:29:12,239
conversation uh my problem has always

1838
01:29:12,239 --> 01:29:13,199
been and

1839
01:29:13,199 --> 01:29:15,679
i'm sure pat's still listening he gets

1840
01:29:15,679 --> 01:29:18,719
tired of listening to me but nonetheless

1841
01:29:18,719 --> 01:29:22,229
i've always been

1842
01:29:22,239 --> 01:29:24,320
i've never had a dog in the hunt if you

1843
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:26,159
want to repeal it or if we don't want to

1844
01:29:26,159 --> 01:29:27,760
enforce it then let's repeat it it's

1845
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:31,600
always been my mantra but if we're not going to

1846
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:34,400
repeat it then it has to be enforced

1847
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:37,440
equally equal application and

1848
01:29:37,440 --> 01:29:40,639
we can't in my estimation i may be wrong

1849
01:29:40,639 --> 01:29:43,080
but in my estimation if it's in the

1850
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:45,280
unincorporated areas of the county which

1851
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,520
is where the ordinance applies

1852
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:49,280
i can't make the distinction of whether

1853
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:50,639
or not you're on the end of a gravel

1854
01:29:50,639 --> 01:29:53,199
road or you have a neighbor

1855
01:29:53,199 --> 01:29:56,000
and by definition that definition is

1856
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,320
what's outlined in the nuisance

1857
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:01,040
so if i have a neighbor on the one hand

1858
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:06,000
whose property is is not congested with vehicles with

1859
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:09,120
weeds with dilapidated buildings

1860
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:11,280
it directly affects the value of their

1861
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:13,120
property i can verify that through the

1862
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:14,960
county assessor's office it has an

1863
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:16,000
impact

1864
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:20,320
plus you know it also

1865
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:21,920
we had one down here in the southwest

1866
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:24,159
corner of

1867
01:30:24,159 --> 01:30:25,920
town actually it's actually surrounded

1868
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:27,679
by town but it's one of those

1869
01:30:27,679 --> 01:30:31,270
islands that we talk about

1870
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,840
the property was absolutely at one point

1871
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:35,280
was a gorgeous property but

1872
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:37,440
this this individual had a passion for

1873
01:30:37,440 --> 01:30:38,880
bringing things in

1874
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:42,320
we drove it wrong i mean it was and yet

1875
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:44,159
there was a three four hundred thousand

1876
01:30:44,159 --> 01:30:45,840
dollar home next to it

1877
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:49,520
that was being impacted

1878
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:52,239
by it but if i tell this individual that

1879
01:30:52,239 --> 01:30:54,239
you have to remove the cars you have to

1880
01:30:54,239 --> 01:30:55,280
do this

1881
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:57,440
in terms of equal application i don't

1882
01:30:57,440 --> 01:30:59,760
see how i can make a distinction

1883
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:03,679
based on definition as to where

1884
01:31:03,679 --> 01:31:06,639
that nuisance is located if it's defined

1885
01:31:06,639 --> 01:31:08,159
as a nuisance in the ordinance it's a

1886
01:31:08,159 --> 01:31:09,520
nuisance whether it's at the end of the

1887
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:10,239
road

1888
01:31:10,239 --> 01:31:12,800
or whether you have a neighbor and

1889
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:15,590
conversely

1890
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,480
i have a property down in what i call

1891
01:31:18,480 --> 01:31:20,239
the darkest parts of the continent just

1892
01:31:20,239 --> 01:31:22,639
north of the mountaineer county line

1893
01:31:22,639 --> 01:31:24,800
there's no neighbor down there

1894
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:27,040
uh as far as living there's there's a

1895
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:28,880
property owner to the south there that

1896
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:31,199
owns some land

1897
01:31:31,199 --> 01:31:34,320
um but the property is

1898
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:36,320
you know overgrown vehicles some of them

1899
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:37,920
were in the in the right of way

1900
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:41,840
so on and so forth but that person has

1901
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:44,320
exactly the same

1902
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:46,400
almost identical set of circumstances

1903
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:47,600
that you do

1904
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:52,870
it turns up nobody around to complain

1905
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,040
so for me personally i'm not speaking to

1906
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:57,840
the other two for me personally

1907
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,400
if we're going to have it it has to be

1908
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:02,320
applied equally to everybody in the

1909
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:05,840
county irrespective of what their

1910
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:10,480
location is in terms of absent that

1911
01:32:10,480 --> 01:32:13,760
if you ask me um

1912
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:17,040
am i opposed to repeating it i think it

1913
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:18,320
serves a purpose

1914
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:20,880
but only if we apply it equally well the

1915
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:22,159
other piece of that

1916
01:32:22,159 --> 01:32:25,040
and pat maybe you can add the detail

1917
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:26,000
there is a state

1918
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:29,600
law that also has

1919
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,239
pieces of the ordinance so even if we

1920
01:32:32,239 --> 01:32:34,159
repealed the ordinance

1921
01:32:34,159 --> 01:32:36,719
there still are certain i believe it's

1922
01:32:36,719 --> 01:32:38,000
health and safety

1923
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:41,120
requirements that everybody has to have

1924
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:44,719
i don't know your specific items if it's

1925
01:32:44,719 --> 01:32:45,920
a health

1926
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:49,520
but um so that that would still be the

1927
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,550
case

1928
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:55,920
and we do have to uh and i mean i've not

1929
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:56,719
been out

1930
01:32:56,719 --> 01:32:58,080
to your place so i don't know if it

1931
01:32:58,080 --> 01:32:59,679
necessarily applies but there are

1932
01:32:59,679 --> 01:33:02,560
hazardous substances which actually

1933
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:06,080
includes you know combustible items

1934
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:10,080
and so um i think that goes

1935
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:14,320
into what b said yeah

1936
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:19,110
so um

1937
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:21,760
again if if you want like like i said to

1938
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:22,159
you

1939
01:33:22,159 --> 01:33:25,440
yes you have the right to appeal um

1940
01:33:25,440 --> 01:33:27,280
the appeal would be centered around

1941
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,760
excuse me the items listed

1942
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:31,199
in your letter as to whether or not

1943
01:33:31,199 --> 01:33:33,520
those nuisance exists

1944
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:35,840
by definition and that's what we would

1945
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:39,679
go by is that nuisance defined and if it is

1946
01:33:39,679 --> 01:33:40,960
then

1947
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:44,320
it's in the stance we

1948
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:47,360
as far as as far as timelines go as i

1949
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:50,239
indicated to you and i also talked to

1950
01:33:50,239 --> 01:33:52,159
our compliance officer about this

1951
01:33:52,159 --> 01:33:55,120
he's an agreement as long as you're

1952
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:56,480
showing progress

1953
01:33:56,480 --> 01:33:58,719
we're not going to put the hand down as

1954
01:33:58,719 --> 01:34:00,080
far as that partner goes

1955
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:02,239
it's when we get ignored or we don't

1956
01:34:02,239 --> 01:34:03,440
show up in court or

1957
01:34:03,440 --> 01:34:05,920
whatever those situations are but we

1958
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:08,080
have to move to the next step

1959
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:09,679
we're asking you to mitigate the

1960
01:34:09,679 --> 01:34:11,600
nuisance but we're also well aware that

1961
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:12,719
sometimes

1962
01:34:12,719 --> 01:34:14,719
that mitigation process is not something

1963
01:34:14,719 --> 01:34:27,110
that can be done day after tomorrow

1964
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:30,239
this is my first term so we started

1965
01:34:30,239 --> 01:34:33,760
it was more to only so what happened we

1966
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:34,239
got an

1967
01:34:34,239 --> 01:34:38,080
increased number of complaints so many

1968
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:41,119
that the year i was chair i think i had

1969
01:34:41,119 --> 01:34:43,760
like 23 letters at least now because the

1970
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:44,159
board

1971
01:34:44,159 --> 01:34:47,760
did all these and we thought

1972
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:49,440
we need a better system if we're going

1973
01:34:49,440 --> 01:34:53,280
to get all these complaints so that we're fair and

1974
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:55,440
not you know we have somebody that

1975
01:34:55,440 --> 01:34:58,320
this is what they do so we contracted

1976
01:34:58,320 --> 01:34:59,600
with russ

1977
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:03,360
so we're trying to now that we have a

1978
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:06,480
process in place that's more

1979
01:35:06,480 --> 01:35:09,600
objective and not subjective then

1980
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:11,119
there will be a time when you need to

1981
01:35:11,119 --> 01:35:13,040
evaluate that and say okay

1982
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:16,159
is it worth the money we're spending on

1983
01:35:16,159 --> 01:35:16,880
that

1984
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:19,840
and the other side of that is some of

1985
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:21,679
the complaints come from this we've

1986
01:35:21,679 --> 01:35:22,639
already

1987
01:35:22,639 --> 01:35:25,040
mentioned the neighbors and in your case

1988
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:26,560
that's not an issue

1989
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:28,320
but someday if you have a different

1990
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:30,159
neighbor it could become one

1991
01:35:30,159 --> 01:35:32,880
so this is probably one of the most

1992
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:35,199
challenges that we get because

1993
01:35:35,199 --> 01:35:40,950
it's difficult you know it really

1994
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:45,109
don't live out is

1995
01:35:45,119 --> 01:35:48,800
we moved into town my wife was dying of

1996
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:50,080
cancer in

1997
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:53,600
2000. she moved into town for a small

1998
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:54,560
period of time

1999
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:57,199
she passed away and then my son and i

2000
01:35:57,199 --> 01:35:57,679
moved

2001
01:35:57,679 --> 01:36:01,360
back out there and then

2002
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:23,270
we were out there for a while and he was young when she died

2003
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:25,440
out of the house one thing oh and go

2004
01:36:25,440 --> 01:36:26,800
back out there

2005
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:28,719
so i'm in the process now i'm trying to

2006
01:36:28,719 --> 01:36:29,920
build something

2007
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:33,669
out there

2008
01:36:33,679 --> 01:36:36,800
so and all my feelings

2009
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,280
once i'm living out there taking care of

2010
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:41,830
stuff

2011
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:44,239
but right now it's in transition well

2012
01:36:44,239 --> 01:36:45,920
for the immediate it sounds like you

2013
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:47,520
have a work hard and that's great

2014
01:36:47,520 --> 01:37:02,790
yeah yeah so that's gonna show

2015
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:04,800
one we wanted it to be looked at black

2016
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:06,639
and white

2017
01:37:06,639 --> 01:37:08,239
and the reason for that is is because

2018
01:37:08,239 --> 01:37:09,840
you and i are

2019
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:13,440
long time friends and it's difficult if

2020
01:37:13,440 --> 01:37:13,760
not

2021
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:17,040
impossible to look at you objectively

2022
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:20,320
because relationship okay

2023
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:23,360
and or if we had just say scott for

2024
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:24,239
example

2025
01:37:24,239 --> 01:37:27,119
okay being a county engineer and then

2026
01:37:27,119 --> 01:37:27,920
how do i

2027
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:31,199
enforce a complaint that i get

2028
01:37:31,199 --> 01:37:33,119
from this individual then this

2029
01:37:33,119 --> 01:37:35,600
individual says well wait a minute

2030
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:38,639
you didn't do anything about dinner

2031
01:37:38,639 --> 01:37:42,480
okay and i think that would concur then

2032
01:37:42,480 --> 01:37:43,440
that

2033
01:37:43,440 --> 01:37:45,679
really your legal legs don't really

2034
01:37:45,679 --> 01:37:49,040
exist at that point and it it did as

2035
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:50,960
de-indicated took the burden off of us

2036
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:53,760
the subjectiveness of it off of us and

2037
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:55,199
gave it to an individual who just

2038
01:37:55,199 --> 01:37:57,119
strictly looks at it in black and white

2039
01:37:57,119 --> 01:37:58,400
terms

2040
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:00,480
and so therefore it's applied equally i

2041
01:38:00,480 --> 01:38:05,199
go back to my original statement um i

2042
01:38:05,199 --> 01:38:07,600
do believe that it's necessary it

2043
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:08,960
wouldn't break my heart if it was

2044
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:10,639
repealed

2045
01:38:10,639 --> 01:38:12,480
only in the context that if we're not

2046
01:38:12,480 --> 01:38:14,960
going to apply it equally to everybody

2047
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:16,400
we're going to pick and choose then i

2048
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,719
don't want it but if we're going to have

2049
01:38:18,719 --> 01:38:19,199
it

2050
01:38:19,199 --> 01:38:20,639
then we've got to apply it equally

2051
01:38:20,639 --> 01:38:42,709
across yeah

2052
01:38:42,719 --> 01:38:44,719
well you're not the lone ranger we've

2053
01:38:44,719 --> 01:38:46,400
had lots of conversations

2054
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:50,320
uh and you know uh

2055
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:52,159
if you got a few minutes before you

2056
01:38:52,159 --> 01:38:53,840
leave i mean before you

2057
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:56,960
go to where take a drive out west on old

2058
01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:58,880
34

2059
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:01,840
um on the south side of the road you

2060
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:02,239
can't

2061
01:39:02,239 --> 01:39:06,080
miss it okay so this has been an ongoing

2062
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:07,440
problem that we've been trying to

2063
01:39:07,440 --> 01:39:08,000
correct

2064
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:11,600
and it to me epitomizes the issue

2065
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:13,760
but for us to have any enforcement

2066
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:14,880
leverage

2067
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:18,719
on that property we have to be

2068
01:39:18,719 --> 01:39:24,470
even-handed with everybody else

2069
01:39:24,480 --> 01:39:27,040
you go it's just beyond where you turned

2070
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:28,080
south to go straight

2071
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:31,360
south into libertyville um it's it's

2072
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:33,760
over the railroad bridge and then off on

2073
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:34,800
the left-hand side

2074
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:38,780
yeah that's the thrill of

2075
01:39:38,780 --> 01:39:52,229
[Music]

2076
01:39:52,239 --> 01:39:54,480
yeah yeah you go underneath the freeway

2077
01:39:54,480 --> 01:39:55,840
you keep going

2078
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:59,840
to the west as 34 used to go to ottumwa

2079
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:02,400
uh you go across the burlington northern

2080
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:03,600
bridge

2081
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:05,840
there the the libertyville corner is

2082
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:07,440
just uh before the

2083
01:40:07,440 --> 01:40:09,119
bridge that goes over the railroad

2084
01:40:09,119 --> 01:40:11,440
tracks once you're over that bridge

2085
01:40:11,440 --> 01:40:13,600
it's off on the left-hand side about

2086
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:16,000
three houses down

2087
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:19,119
and it's like lee said you cannot

2088
01:40:19,119 --> 01:40:31,910
miss it when you drive

2089
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:37,990
it's what we deal with

2090
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:41,280
so um yeah you're welcome

2091
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:43,679
thanks for coming in and and talking

2092
01:40:43,679 --> 01:40:44,800
about it

2093
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:48,239
well i really enjoyed sitting here

2094
01:40:48,239 --> 01:40:52,310
watching you guys

2095
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:55,760
all right okay um i would accept a

2096
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:57,600
motion to allow claims and approve

2097
01:40:57,600 --> 01:40:59,440
reports

2098
01:40:59,440 --> 01:41:01,119
okay i have a motion from dimmitt a

2099
01:41:01,119 --> 01:41:02,800
second from sandquist

2100
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:05,840
all those in favor say aye hi all those

2101
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:07,440
opposed same sign

2102
01:41:07,440 --> 01:41:10,880
motion carries uh discuss and consider

2103
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:13,280
nuisance properties

2104
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:15,840
i mean pat and i have been going back

2105
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:18,750
and forth about

2106
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:23,360
extracurricular uh enforcement issues

2107
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:26,000
he's worked very hard i don't know that

2108
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,480
we're at a point where we can

2109
01:41:28,480 --> 01:41:32,800
my overriding concern is that

2110
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:35,040
we some power or another put a process

2111
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:36,480
in place i mean we've got the oranges i

2112
01:41:36,480 --> 01:41:37,920
think it spells it out

2113
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:41,600
pat like say has been working on it um

2114
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:44,000
but i think the board now has to decide

2115
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:45,600
how much

2116
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:48,080
they're willing to expend on some of

2117
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:49,199
these properties

2118
01:41:49,199 --> 01:41:52,239
that have not come into compliance in

2119
01:41:52,239 --> 01:41:53,199
some cases

2120
01:41:53,199 --> 01:41:55,440
for extended periods of time were being

2121
01:41:55,440 --> 01:41:56,400
ignored

2122
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:57,679
even though they've been fined when

2123
01:41:57,679 --> 01:42:00,639
there's been a judgment issue it's as

2124
01:42:00,639 --> 01:42:03,920
i'm pat's going to shoot me for this but

2125
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:07,520
um the ongoing

2126
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:09,760
uh as far as i'm concerned it's an

2127
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:11,199
emergency exist by reason of the

2128
01:42:11,199 --> 01:42:13,360
continuing maintenance of the nuisance

2129
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:15,440
as far as i'm certain a perfect example

2130
01:42:15,440 --> 01:42:17,040
out west of town that's continuing

2131
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:19,199
maintenance

2132
01:42:19,199 --> 01:42:22,800
and um i think that we have

2133
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:25,520
we've given them notice to abate uh they

2134
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:26,639
were

2135
01:42:26,639 --> 01:42:41,109
they did

2136
01:42:41,119 --> 01:42:44,000
we can remove that private property and

2137
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:52,950
i don't know the answer to that

2138
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:57,360
okay so that concludes

2139
01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:00,080
the meeting here in the office we are

2140
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,239
having a road tour this morning

2141
01:43:02,239 --> 01:43:05,280
with the county engineer to go out and

2142
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:07,119
look at some

2143
01:43:07,119 --> 01:43:09,760
problems or positives that are out there

2144
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:11,520
that have been going on with us i'd like

2145
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:13,360
to thank everybody for joining us for

2146
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:14,320
the meeting today

2147
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:17,520
and uh we'll get this posted up thank

2148
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:22,310
you

2149
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:24,800
i have a motion from dimmitt from

2150
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:26,239
sandquist to adjourn

2151
01:43:26,239 --> 01:43:29,199
all those in favor say aye aye all those

2152
01:43:29,199 --> 01:43:30,000
opposed same

2153
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:33,920
sign motion carries