[0:14] me
[0:37] okay i've got at least my one of my
[0:40] assistant county attorneys on with me
[0:54] yeah i already went doggy
[1:08] [Music]
[1:09] all right um
[1:12] all right we'll get this meeting started
[1:14] to the jefferson county board of
[1:15] supervisors
[1:16] i'm darren hamilton chairman and uh
[1:20] we'll uh call this meeting to order
[1:24] uh let's start by acknowledging the
[1:26] minutes from the previous meeting
[1:30] all right i have a motion by uh demit
[1:33] second by saint quest
[1:35] uh to approve the minutes from the
[1:37] previous meeting
[1:38] all those in favor say i i all those
[1:41] opposed
[1:42] same sign motion carries
[1:45] um the next two
[1:49] items are
[1:55] our part of the county engineer's
[1:57] responsibility and he's not here so
[1:59] we're gonna
[2:00] move on up to um
[2:04] let's see do we have paperwork for
[2:09] uh discuss and consider board of
[2:11] supervisors civil service
[2:13] commission
[2:17] oh i think you're going to need
[2:18] assignments well
[2:21] that involves scott as well i had no
[2:24] idea on cell service division i assumed
[2:26] that maybe that was
[2:29] from chauncey because susie's term
[2:32] expired
[2:33] and i think he was wanting to do an
[2:36] interim
[2:37] appointment so to speak until after the
[2:39] election
[2:41] and i don't know if he was asking it
[2:42] because susan's his appointment
[2:45] well we have pat mcmahon on with us pat
[2:48] maybe you can answer this question about
[2:51] the uh civil service
[2:53] uh yeah my understanding is that the
[2:55] hold on just a second
[2:57] i gotta get some volume up on you here
[3:01] okay now go ahead the terms of the folks
[3:04] who were up this year
[3:05] uh expired on june 30.
[3:09] so i think we have one that needs to be
[3:12] either reappointed or
[3:14] uh newly appointed and i think that you
[3:16] folks had one as well but
[3:18] um i wasn't involved directly in those
[3:20] conversations that's just my
[3:21] understanding
[3:23] okay all right so
[3:26] um
[3:30] who's currently on under us
[3:35] uh pat are you still there no
[3:40] depends what you ask okay
[3:44] uh i show um that adam stafford expires
[3:48] in october of 21.
[3:53] joe ledger expires in october of 23
[3:56] and susie's the only one that
[4:00] is up and is is she october of this year
[4:03] or was it june october of last year
[4:07] we don't have anybody expiring until
[4:09] october of 21.
[4:11] poor choice of words whose term is is
[4:14] up until october of 21.
[4:17] okay uh well if that's the case then it
[4:20] is just us
[4:21] and um um we will uh
[4:25] we'll do what we need to do so uh i
[4:28] don't know why i was thinking that it
[4:30] was uh one of those kind of like the
[4:31] supervisors where there's two at one
[4:33] time and then one at
[4:34] two years staggered so uh okay well then
[4:38] there's nothing for you guys to do there
[4:39] we'll
[4:40] send you something eventually okay thank
[4:42] you thank you pat
[4:45] all right uh scott kleiner county
[4:48] engineer has joined us
[4:49] so we're going to move back to meet with
[4:52] the county engineer
[5:02] okay so of course i've done blading
[5:05] on dirt and gravel roads
[5:11] did a culvert replacement of 1 10th
[5:16] and ditching some more on miracle
[5:20] further to the south and ironwood
[5:25] and um equipment maintenance
[5:29] mowing shoulders gravels and tables
[5:35] we're into yellow now on the basement
[5:38] striping
[5:39] very good and uh
[5:42] got five holes repaired on packwood road
[5:47] v64 rock hall angle
[5:51] 1 10 between green tree and ivy
[5:55] and shoulder maintenance on kelp north
[5:59] of gear
[6:00] in front of man boxes
[6:04] i got a couple rooms for you to check
[6:05] out for somebody
[6:08] just talked about that
[6:12] there's uh somebody that liked it
[6:17] and just north like just down that hill
[6:19] that first little hill
[6:21] on the west side there's a big like
[6:23] tractor tire or something right by the
[6:25] edge of the road
[6:28] well these tractors she just wanted to
[6:29] think about that
[6:31] but my point is tractors are going to
[6:33] start moving here pretty quick and
[6:35] trucks we need to get it fixed because
[6:37] it just it's the edge of the room and
[6:39] just at least now it needs a
[6:41] flag on that but
[6:45] and the other one is on nutmeg just have
[6:47] them go out and really look at that i
[6:49] did that yesterday and there's
[6:50] a couple of bitcoins on there and that's
[6:53] going to have traffic here in front of
[6:55] three weeks or so
[6:57] more um between there and selena read
[7:02] [Music]
[7:08] yeah it's been awfully dry but um
[7:11] both commercial uh people are hauling
[7:14] that
[7:27] yeah well because of all the dryers
[7:43] that's where okay at with road crews
[7:46] yeah
[7:47] all right we'll move on to uh consider a
[7:50] resolution to accept
[7:51] proposal by calvin burns and associates
[7:54] for
[7:55] bridge inspection and rating program
[7:58] we have a resolution in front of it that
[8:00] says be it resolved by the jefferson
[8:02] county board of supervisors to accept
[8:04] the proposal by calvin burns and
[8:06] associates
[8:07] incorporated for the 2021 bridge
[8:10] inspection and rating program
[8:12] to be accepted for jefferson county
[8:15] by signature of the board of supervisors
[8:17] chair
[8:21] correct yes they're going to
[8:24] reinspect 79 structures in 2021
[8:29] for a long sum fee of 17 370 dollars
[8:36] there it's required that load rating
[8:39] computations
[8:40] be done including on any new
[8:43] of the rating trucks i mean meaning
[8:46] trucks that are
[8:47] now allowed to be on there that weren't
[8:50] allowed to be there before
[8:52] and uh update the scour evaluations
[8:57] do uh fracture critical inspections
[9:02] those those are bridges that if one
[9:04] component goes there's no redundancy and
[9:07] little things live ago and
[9:10] track let's see
[9:15] anyway various items there so for load
[9:18] reading computations
[9:21] those are 125 dollars each
[9:25] and it depends on how many they have to
[9:26] do and
[9:28] updated scour evaluations 105
[9:31] each bridge has that that's done on
[9:34] fraction critical 400 each and they
[9:37] estimate that those three things
[9:39] would cost around six thousand dollars
[9:44] and if there's anything else that we ask
[9:46] them to do like
[9:49] if somebody wants to take a heavy truck
[9:51] over
[9:52] for a heavier truck over a bridge
[9:57] and they give you the how their load is
[10:00] spread out
[10:01] they the boards can determine if
[10:05] we could give a special permit for that
[10:08] truck to go over
[10:09] and might be things like don't go more
[10:11] than 5 miles per hour
[10:13] and no braking on the
[10:26] to get that special permit that they
[10:29] need to pay the cost of the
[10:43] there is a charge
[10:47] that's um in the state statutes
[10:51] but over reducing
[10:54] some of the numbers of bridges
[11:01] well if we put a single tank cart on
[11:04] something that was
[11:06] a bridge before like 20 feet of greater
[11:11] then a single tank car is not going to
[11:14] be
[11:14] 20 feet or greater so that takes one out
[11:16] but if we
[11:18] come find an 18 foot long bridge and we put two tanker cars in because
[11:24] that's what it says it's supposed to
[11:25] have
[11:26] then we have a new bridge that goes on
[11:29] our
[11:29] inventory
[11:32] and someday they might rate that a
[11:36] little bit lower and we get some money
[11:37] out of
[11:38] it being a bridge but um
[11:42] tommy we have eliminated silently
[11:45] probably eliminated
[11:52] right you got you don't have any width
[11:55] restrictions anymore
[11:57] and no low limits and i'm not liable to
[12:00] have a name for
[12:02] 40 50 years
[12:07] right
[12:16] to approve the resolution all those in
[12:19] favor say hi all those opposed same sign
[12:23] motion carries
[12:50] maybe i can go back
[13:05] thank you sir
[13:10] okay we'll move on to consider a
[13:12] resolution to accept
[13:13] okay we did that one sorry um
[13:17] discuss and consider signing group
[13:19] letter
[13:20] and that would be the group clutter that
[13:22] was spoken to us at our last meeting
[13:25] about uh oversized trucks
[13:29] and um platoon type trucking
[13:32] the extra weight vehicles
[13:36] um yeah that we spoke about so
[13:40] and there's there's not on a
[13:43] signing letter really what it means is
[13:46] that um
[13:55] [Music]
[14:00] yeah okay i have the motion from
[14:03] sandquest a second
[14:04] from dim it to go ahead and
[14:08] add our names to the letter that's being
[14:11] submitted for
[14:12] um reconsideration of increasing weights
[14:15] on trucking across the united states as
[14:19] well as
[14:19] through our county and the state body
[14:22] all those in favor say i all those opposed same sign
[14:27] motion carries
[14:33] it is to try and stop
[14:36] increased weights on on highways
[14:45] this doesn't change their dynamic at all
[14:48] it doesn't affect their ability to uh
[14:51] haul their their product to
[14:55] wherever right is that suggested by the
[14:59] government
[15:00] here
[15:03] okay um we're going to discuss stop sign
[15:06] on 110th
[15:07] in pleasant plain
[15:12] we've asked the mayor of pleasant plain
[15:14] to come and be with us today
[15:16] okay um thank you so much
[15:37] all right um a little bit of history on
[15:40] this
[15:41] uh previous county engineer had
[15:44] authorized a stop sign to be placed at
[15:47] west street and 110th
[15:50] street in pleasant plain which is on the
[15:54] west side of town
[15:57] [Music]
[15:59] the history on it was is that uh it was
[16:02] felt that people were speeding through
[16:04] pleasant plain
[16:05] and they were wanting to use it as a
[16:07] traffic control device
[16:09] there were not warrants which are
[16:13] designations given as to whether traffic
[16:16] control devices are needed at a
[16:18] particular
[16:18] intersection because of traffic volume
[16:22] turning movements or accident history
[16:25] which this location had met none of
[16:28] those requirements
[16:31] and it's the county's position that
[16:34] the stop sign should not be there um
[16:38] it is the county highway 110th street is
[16:41] the county highway that goes to the
[16:43] west out of pleasant plain and
[16:47] uh there are some things that can be
[16:49] changed
[16:50] to lessen the speed
[16:54] coming into town by moving to signs
[16:58] locations we have proposals for that
[17:02] extending uh extending the 55 mile an
[17:06] hour speed limit
[17:08] farther to the west as you're going on
[17:10] in town
[17:11] uh changing the 55
[17:15] mile an hour speed limit that's
[17:17] currently going west
[17:19] to a 45 mile an hour speed limit at that
[17:22] location where the
[17:23] speed limit is reduced all the way to 25
[17:26] mile an hour coming in
[17:29] we lengthen the distance of the speed
[17:32] zone
[17:33] ahead area we currently have a
[17:37] sign out there that that says that
[17:40] but it's it's much closer than what it
[17:43] is
[17:45] that would make um the speed limit start reducing
[17:52] at uh which is quince
[17:56] avenue to the west
[18:00] [Music]
[18:09] additional speed zone head sign
[18:13] to the west of the city london line so
[18:15] that right people are where they need to
[18:17] be
[18:17] going 45 and say london
[18:21] what input is the community
[18:31] in the letter that i sent you it was
[18:33] outlined by the
[18:34] county attorney that since it is pretty well known that the sign
[18:41] isn't enforced
[18:43] out there that it presents a hazard or a
[18:46] problem to the county in that if there
[18:48] is an accident that happens
[18:50] because someone doesn't obey the stop
[18:53] sign that's currently there
[18:55] then the sound the county can be held
[18:56] liable for what happens with that
[18:59] accident
[19:00] and with no um no
[19:03] history of that intersection or no
[19:06] turning movements
[19:07] to warrant a sign being there in the
[19:10] first place it should not have been
[19:12] erected uh is what the county's position
[19:16] is
[19:16] so that it should come down even though
[19:19] a previous county engineer
[19:21] had uh designated to put up a sign out
[19:24] there
[19:25] it was not because there was anything
[19:28] that
[19:28] actually warranted and i'm not sure
[19:37] well obviously it isn't it is
[19:40] i've seen people i pulled in there just
[19:43] to
[19:44] turn around while documenting where
[19:46] signs were
[19:47] i saw two people go through the stop
[19:49] sign
[19:50] without stopping i mean they may have
[19:52] slowed down a little bit
[19:55] um that was all it did to slow down
[20:01] and uh stop signs there's you're
[20:03] supposed to stop that there's supposed
[20:05] to be
[20:06] enforced that you come to a full stop
[20:09] there should be a stop sign coming from
[20:11] the other
[20:11] way if if it's warranted that a stop
[20:14] sign before that that low case should be
[20:17] through three will stop
[20:33] west
[20:36] and then put one up going east now
[20:39] there's both of them on both sides
[20:41] i'm going out of town from the inventory
[20:45] but out of town they can run faster
[20:49] there's nothing there they've passed the
[20:50] church already to pass
[20:52] uh west street they have to
[20:55] come back down so there's no need for
[20:57] adoption
[20:59] well if they're going into
[21:08] there's supposed to be a resolution
[21:12] or an ordinance that says that they're
[21:15] supposed to be
[21:16] they would have to say there's two stops
[21:18] on there and they
[21:19] have to be predicated on that there
[21:22] being warrants to have one there
[21:24] if people slow down to the speed limits
[21:27] that are posted
[21:28] then they shouldn't have to stop there
[21:31] let me ask a question and this is
[21:34] that's impact in here so
[21:38] first question do you know when that had
[21:42] both stop signs was that originally
[21:44] pleasant planes idea or was it just
[21:46] there
[21:48] yeah okay and that that answers that
[21:51] question
[21:51] the second part of the question then is
[21:54] if an
[21:54] ordinance is required who's required to
[21:56] pass that ordinance the city of pleasant
[21:58] plain or the county board of supervisors
[22:00] and the third part of that then is is
[22:02] that if it's the city of pleasant plain
[22:05] they pass an ordinance is it not their
[22:07] responsibility to enforce that
[22:08] organization
[22:10] oh populations below 500.
[22:14] so i mean i'll let that
[22:17] yeah did you hear the questions that lee
[22:21] had
[22:22] yes i did uh so this is a county roadway um
[22:29] and so it's um
[22:32] as such the county has jurisdiction over that roadway
[22:36] uh kind of like highway one running
[22:38] through the city of fairfield right
[22:41] so it would be the county's
[22:45] uh responsibility to do that and it
[22:48] would be
[22:50] whether it's the county's responsibility
[22:51] or the city's responsibility to enforce
[22:53] uh the sheriff provides
[22:55] uh uh you know
[22:58] law enforcement coverage for pleasant
[23:00] planes so we're really talking about the
[23:02] same entity
[23:04] so let me go back to you said about
[23:08] highway one but there are stop lights
[23:09] along highway one now i'm not advocating
[23:11] i'll keep the stop sign i just want to
[23:13] be clear
[23:14] there's stop lights along highway one
[23:16] that a local
[23:17] law enforcement can write me a ticket
[23:19] for running that stoplight
[23:22] any law enforcement can write a write a
[23:24] ticket for violation of a traffic
[23:26] ordinance but you said whose authority
[23:28] or whose responsibility is it uh you
[23:30] know each municipality has
[23:32] a law enforcement um
[23:36] provides law enforcement for their
[23:37] community pleasant plane does that by
[23:40] contracting with our sheriff's office
[23:41] so our sheriff's office can do it but
[23:43] the state patrol could do it
[23:44] anybody that saw it could do it right
[23:47] but who established the stoplight is
[23:48] what i'm saying to the city of fairfield
[23:51] or did the state of iowa uh i'm guessing
[23:54] it was a joint
[23:55] thing because you can't we can't the
[23:57] city can't put anything
[23:59] uh on highway one without approval from
[24:02] the state
[24:02] okay that answer that's what i wanted to
[24:05] know is it's so this is
[24:06] we're actually almost comparing apples
[24:08] to apples here
[24:10] well except that we have jurisdiction on
[24:12] wasn't playing right
[24:13] that's what i'm saying so if we were in
[24:16] agreement with pleasant plane we could
[24:18] establish that stop sign
[24:20] uh sort of sort of okay
[24:24] uh i'm looking at the the statute that
[24:27] is
[24:27] of concern for um our office chelsea
[24:30] talk to me a little bit about this this
[24:32] morning before he left but um
[24:35] it's in the code state code that talks
[24:38] about traffic enforcement it says that
[24:41] um you know drivers have to follow uh
[24:43] traffic control devices
[24:46] placed in accordance with the provisions
[24:47] this chapter and the provisions of the
[24:49] chapter say that local authorities
[24:51] in their respective jurisdictions shall
[24:54] place and maintain
[24:55] traffic control devices upon highways in
[24:57] their jurisdiction
[24:58] as they deem necessary and as
[25:02] uh as indicated uh
[25:05] by the state manual and specifications
[25:09] so when scott's talking about whether
[25:11] it's warranted or not and whether it
[25:12] meets the criteria
[25:15] those are things that need to be
[25:19] taken care of in order for the sign to
[25:21] be properly placed and if the sign is
[25:23] not properly placed
[25:25] and we actually catch somebody run that
[25:27] stop sign and they come in and they
[25:29] say look this this sign is not warranted
[25:31] or it's not properly placed
[25:33] then we can't prosecute it okay
[25:36] so it's not just a matter of counting
[25:38] degrees city agrees we're just going to
[25:39] put it up
[25:40] um there's more to it than that and so
[25:42] that's what scott's talking about in
[25:43] terms of whether it's warranted or not
[25:45] warranted and what the studies show
[25:47] and the appropriate way under the manual
[25:50] to
[25:51] regulate traffic uh given the data
[25:54] and if if those things don't um
[25:58] aren't all in line um then
[26:01] uh enforcement on the legal side can be
[26:04] very difficult
[26:05] if not uh you know prohibited
[26:08] so it's um those are the things that
[26:10] concern us
[26:12] so by definition scott it's not
[26:14] warranted
[26:15] okay
[26:18] how much traffic goes through there in a
[26:20] day
[26:22] there's a hundred 180 vehicle count i
[26:25] believe it is
[26:26] coming through there um on the east west
[26:29] road
[26:30] right and we don't have a count
[26:33] on west street
[26:42] yeah that's the 180 vehicles per day
[26:50] on both ways yeah that would be going
[26:52] both directions
[27:01] yes they call that an average count
[27:08] so
[27:14] we can't take no action
[27:17] on it we can't authorize him to remove
[27:21] it but i don't think we need to he has
[27:22] the authority to do that because it
[27:24] doesn't mean
[27:25] i understand that right now doesn't meet
[27:26] the requirements and i don't believe
[27:28] there was a resolution by the county to
[27:30] ever put it out there in the first place
[27:32] that the board would have approved
[27:37] i don't remember tom ever coming before
[27:44] but again
[27:50] we don't have the authority to take any
[27:52] action but i don't think we need to have
[27:54] the authority because i think it falls
[27:55] under the engineer
[27:56] adam
[28:00] i i think that um i think that you're
[28:03] right
[28:04] uh one okay
[28:10] there we go oh my god
[28:16] no i think i think you're right i mean i
[28:18] you know unless there was
[28:19] some official action that needs to be
[28:21] undone uh
[28:23] then i don't think you need to take any
[28:25] official action
[28:26] here uh i think it's part of the county
[28:28] engineer's responsibility to
[28:30] you know maintain signage along our
[28:32] roadways just as i read
[28:34] and that includes uh removing
[28:38] of signs that are not appropriate we've
[28:39] done that in other instances where
[28:41] things have been posted by
[28:42] you know adjoining landowners or
[28:45] whatever
[28:46] and so that would be similar the thing
[28:47] is that this has been at that location
[28:49] for a while so
[28:50] you probably you know it is appropriate
[28:52] to sort of publicize it
[28:54] and make sure that people are aware that
[28:56] you know that uh that intersection
[28:58] um is changing um and uh you know do our
[29:02] best to get our information out there
[29:04] well we would need to go ahead people if
[29:07] we're going to do the
[29:08] speed limit and pass
[29:12] resolution regarding that i don't have
[29:14] anything ready on that i've
[29:16] been wanting to see what the board and
[29:20] pat and the mayor might all have to say
[29:23] about it today
[29:27] well i mean obviously uh
[29:30] according to the county attorney's
[29:32] office falls into your jurisdiction and
[29:35] if you want to change the signs
[29:36] your resolution to do something but
[29:45] [Music]
[29:53] i mean you can check it out and uh pick
[29:56] up
[29:56] 90 percent of the people that go through
[29:58] there well i
[29:59] think to play devil's advocate if they
[30:02] don't look at the speed limit signs they
[30:03] don't look at the stop sign either
[30:05] which well i know the stop sign slows
[30:07] them down
[30:10] well that's the only thing
[30:14] and that's an excellent point you
[30:15] brought up an excellent point and that's
[30:17] exactly goes back to the point that that
[30:19] was making
[30:20] that because they blow through it
[30:23] even though they're they're slowing down
[30:25] in their 170 they're going through the
[30:27] 45 they're going through it
[30:29] which proves the county at risk
[30:32] if an accident occurs there because a
[30:49] in your argument you actually
[30:52] um make the point uh like
[30:55] against keeping this behind there okay
[30:59] if anything why not
[31:44] or
[31:49] because nothing's right nothing's ever
[31:51] happened to put it up there in the first
[31:53] place
[31:54] and it's not been warranted there's not
[31:56] been a resolution
[31:57] it's just simply a unenforceable
[32:01] uh sound it's not unlike a situation
[32:05] it's it's not exactly apples to apples
[32:07] but it's not unlike the situation we had
[32:09] out at osage
[32:12] we had two deaths on osage since they
[32:14] put in the bypass
[32:16] and we as the board of supervisors felt
[32:19] that was an unsafe um intersection
[32:23] and it needed to be changed and we asked
[32:26] the dod for safety monitoring and they
[32:28] would give me the determination that it
[32:29] was not
[32:30] a safety issue what criteria they used i
[32:34] don't know
[32:35] but my point simply is is that
[32:38] in this particular instance beauty is
[32:40] not in the eyes of the beholder wrapped
[32:42] forward
[32:43] business safety ain't you coming into
[32:47] town
[32:47] because you get overtime over with
[32:50] vehicles
[32:52] they don't pay attention to the stop
[32:54] sign
[32:57] and boys shouldn't be stopping down
[33:00] why can't the stop sign be there when
[33:02] literally was there 13 years
[33:04] ago how are you becoming illegal now
[33:07] i don't have an answer for
[33:20] and maybe it wasn't legal 13 years ago
[33:23] but it was put in 13 years ago illegally
[33:26] how do you know it wasn't an ordinance
[33:28] did you like that
[33:29] yes we did there is an ordinance
[33:38] well there's definitely no possibility
[33:41] of it being awarded to one stop sign
[33:43] from one direction
[33:45] um if it was warranted to put it in
[33:49] going um from the west to the east that
[33:53] it should have been warranted to go in
[33:54] there from the east to the west
[33:56] uh it would but wow
[34:01] it wasn't necessarily warranted it was
[34:03] just
[34:05] would have been there if there were two
[34:07] stops on it but you still have to
[34:11] have a warranted stop signs needed there
[34:14] and
[34:14] you have to get a resolution or an
[34:18] ordinance that
[34:20] says that there's going to be a stop
[34:22] sign and that makes it enforceable
[34:25] and we don't have any of that there and
[34:28] don't it's not really worth it to put a
[34:30] stop sign there
[34:32] okay if people are going the speed
[34:33] limits that
[34:35] are posted there then they're then
[34:37] they're not going to have an accident at
[34:39] that
[34:40] intersection because of somebody coming
[34:42] from the west
[34:43] i mean coming from west avenue west
[34:45] street whether it
[34:58] are the conflict vehicles and uh
[35:02] there's no church there's not that many
[35:06] so i mean you're supposed to warn it as
[35:08] to whether it's going to be a crash
[35:10] there
[35:10] because of somebody a lot of
[35:14] vehicles coming out of west street not
[35:16] turning them inside
[35:21] and if people are going to speeds that
[35:23] are posted there then that's not going to happen people
[35:27] are going to stop at west street to let
[35:29] the vehicle go by let's go in the speed
[35:31] limit
[35:33] there's no one's creeping in my way yeah
[35:35] we're not dropping
[35:36] that's what you own for us is the speed
[35:38] limit okay but we ain't got no way
[35:41] it's impossible to put up a pre-sign
[35:44] that says
[35:45] fashion slow ahead or you know how you
[35:47] see these
[35:48] well my idea is to put up the signs that
[35:52] have the arrow ahead with the seat there
[35:55] and that tends to so people found more
[36:09] right well out on um
[36:13] gear yeah gear and we looked at an
[36:17] intersection there
[36:19] and we didn't choose to put a four-way
[36:21] stop there we
[36:22] put uh revise the speed limit head signs
[36:26] and
[36:27] different different things so that when
[36:29] you got
[36:30] not necessarily at that intersection
[36:32] with the kelp then
[36:33] once you got into town with uh gear at
[36:36] 12
[36:38] it's a lot more noticeable now that it's
[36:41] 25 miles per hour
[36:42] on the west side of that intersection
[36:45] than it was when the side was in the
[36:47] shade on the
[36:48] east side of that intersection
[36:53] but oh there's there's countless
[36:55] examples but one thing
[36:57] is you're never supposed to use the stop
[37:00] sign
[37:00] just simply for speed control it's not
[37:04] warranted
[37:05] for that it's rewarded by
[37:08] your conflicts that you have at an
[37:10] intersection
[37:12] and with people going through not not
[37:15] paying attention or
[37:16] obeying that stop sign that's there now
[37:19] you're not getting
[37:21] it's not uh effective the way it is
[37:25] there's a lot of obey and then who's
[37:28] going to be your
[37:28] uncle who wants to get killed and they
[37:30] can't find out
[37:33] but there's no indication whatsoever
[37:36] that taking the stock sign out
[37:37] is going to increase or decrease
[37:40] accidents now are you taking the b3
[37:44] would you close the door the feed limit
[37:46] fine i'm going to slow traffic
[37:51] [Music]
[38:02] guess when it gets a ticket you're gonna
[38:05] get them there
[38:06] i guess it would be the sheriff's
[38:08] department yeah but they just had to
[38:10] re-talk on their own
[38:16] they sit and talk on their phones at the
[38:18] north in the town not the south end of
[38:20] town
[38:23] not the north end of the town where they
[38:25] could be
[38:28] but i've never seen anybody here
[38:51] but then they'd have to come and ask
[38:52] permission from the county to be able to
[38:54] put it up on that location
[38:55] right i think well the sheriff has
[39:00] sheriff's office can put out a uh sign
[39:03] that
[39:04] indicates how fast people are coming in
[39:06] yeah right
[39:07] and they've they've just did that
[39:09] recently
[39:11] out here on grimes and it seems
[39:14] but i've noticed it seems to slow people
[39:16] down
[39:18] and i probably want to when we put up
[39:21] those signs you probably
[39:22] want the sheriff's office to put their
[39:26] radar detection with the speed
[39:29] indication sign out there for a while
[39:31] and make people more aware of the fact
[39:33] that
[39:34] they need to slow down
[39:42] oh you had another there was another
[39:45] stop sign and another
[39:46] small community that they put up just
[39:50] from one direction
[39:52] with the thought of speed control but
[39:54] that has since been
[39:56] removed by everybody's agreement so
[40:04] well this ain't getting no place um well
[40:07] can we have this term can i have to turn
[40:13] sure that's that's perfectly fine we
[40:16] don't have a meeting
[40:18] about the third monday of each month so
[40:20] it'll be
[40:24] third monday in september which is
[40:27] uh
[40:30] 24th of september okay
[40:34] now before it ever
[40:38] go ahead with the resolutions about
[40:40] speed limits because
[40:42] those are reasonable anyway and uh
[40:46] go ahead and do that i mean well yeah
[40:48] you can have everything all
[40:50] put in place ready to go but we can wait
[40:53] until the 21st of september
[40:55] uh after their counter of your city
[40:58] attorney has had
[40:58] a chance to look at everything that the
[41:00] county attorney has looked at
[41:02] when it comes to this so that uh
[41:08] just for a matter of uh
[41:11] i don't know but reach out to your city
[41:14] attorney and have them
[41:16] contact county attorney's office and
[41:33] harvest season and
[41:36] do you have any objections about what
[41:39] putting on the speed limit
[41:42] out there at the city limit line and
[41:46] then
[41:46] you might
[41:55] it is the county accounting jurisdiction
[41:59] on that
[42:00] because of the i mean even through town
[42:03] because they have less than 500
[42:06] population
[42:08] which is not like fairfield
[42:12] where fairfield would really have to say
[42:15] um
[42:16] roads going through therapy
[42:22] okay all right
[42:26] we'll look to talk to you on the 21st
[42:29] what time is your meetings
[42:31] seven o'clock and where the uh community
[42:39] yep okay thank you
[42:51] all right
[43:03] so next we're going to move on to
[43:05] discuss and consider board of
[43:07] supervisors civil service commission we
[43:09] already did that
[43:17] now we're going to discuss and consider
[43:19] weed commissioner change
[43:23] okay we each received um
[43:26] letters on this
[43:30] um i gotta send your phone like a
[43:33] comment before we start
[43:35] it would have been helpful to do this at
[43:37] the start of the budget here this
[43:39] is coming because florida health got
[43:43] this piece
[43:43] back to them within budget year
[43:47] and all this kind of stuff should not be
[43:49] p small that should go as a package
[43:52] just my personal opinion
[43:56] well i i yeah
[44:08] and uh
[44:11] so i reached out to brent to scott
[44:15] and i also called mark and i talked to
[44:17] melissa
[44:19] and while certainly what what dan
[44:23] is is recommending is
[44:26] can be done um
[44:30] it does increase
[44:36] does require reporting changes in terms
[44:38] of
[44:39] salaries
[44:49] and if um we control this work
[44:53] then it has to be designated on this
[44:57] time sheet for lack of a better word
[44:59] which would
[45:00] fall to the responsibility of both the
[45:02] individual trying to keep track
[45:04] of time which agreement for
[45:07] real that it would be minimal but
[45:09] nonetheless keep track of the time
[45:11] then report that time to mark who then
[45:14] adjusts
[45:16] their time sheet to reflect what portion
[45:19] comes out of their own department what
[45:20] portion comes out of the recommendation
[45:23] uh our road crew generally speaking i
[45:25] think scott and i are in agreement with
[45:27] this they're paying attention to the
[45:28] road as well they should be
[45:33] and we never have had somebody go out
[45:36] and just
[45:37] you know cruise down the road and look
[45:38] to see if d you've got
[45:40] noxious weeds we recognize that
[45:46] we state that the property owner is
[45:50] responsible for the noxious means of the
[45:52] nation
[45:53] not the county so it's their
[45:55] responsibility to mitigate those
[45:58] whatever they happen to be um
[46:02] i think correctly from wrongdoing we
[46:04] pretty well handle it by complaint
[46:05] or if you happen to be out there in the
[46:07] second video
[46:09] right
[46:12] so it goes back to what i said you know
[46:14] our road crew guys are out doing
[46:16] something they're not specific unless
[46:18] you know unless you get a complaint then
[46:21] brent must have to go out respond would
[46:23] have to go out or you
[46:24] send billy out or whatever my point is that
[46:28] um
[46:32] we have budgeted three thousand dollars
[46:35] to recommission wheat commission is
[46:36] under the board of supervisors
[46:38] and correctly points that out uh i did
[46:41] talk to those hudson they're willing to
[46:42] take it on and do it while they're doing
[46:44] their nuisance work
[46:46] and you know when they're going out and
[46:48] in fact in a lot of instances it might
[46:50] aid in a better nuisance a little bit
[46:51] because a lot of the weeds and stuff
[46:53] that we run into on property are
[46:55] not just wheat
[46:58] and so it would be
[47:01] i don't know if we i don't know that i
[47:03] would say that it would be
[47:06] um don't misunderstand how this sounds
[47:09] any greater coverage or any i mean okay
[47:12] what we're just simply saying is is that
[47:14] in the process
[47:15] and again if there's a complaint as does
[47:18] damn
[47:19] they would review it but there would be
[47:22] they would do it for the three thousand
[47:24] dollars
[47:26] how much time do you spend in the air
[47:28] again
[47:30] average the average over the past nine
[47:33] years was 49
[47:35] hours a year this past fiscal year was
[47:38] 61 hours
[47:41] what was the uh increase due to
[47:44] well that was averaged over nine years
[47:48] right but this last year you said there
[47:51] was 61.
[47:52] so it's gradually gone up as people you
[47:55] know now
[47:56] they've called me to complain about
[47:57] leading up the website on the
[48:01] third week county website
[48:06] okay and i do of the three thousand
[48:08] dollars that
[48:09] uh is allowed to you what portion of
[48:12] that goes to your recertification
[48:14] and um schooling that's required
[48:18] of the weed commissioner there's
[48:20] publication
[48:22] so that's part of the budget every every
[48:25] april
[48:25] put out a public legal code and then
[48:29] uh education um
[48:34] i usually go to the aims to the
[48:37] wheat commissioner's conference right so
[48:39] there's cross
[48:40] there it's about 300 right
[48:43] here um and then the rest
[48:47] is for actually the
[48:50] rest of it is really for if you need to
[48:52] hire somebody
[48:53] go out and do spraying or mowing
[48:57] like a third party to go on some of your
[49:00] property and do that work
[49:02] which i've never had to do that i've had
[49:05] to write letters and then have the
[49:06] attorney
[49:07] i'll write legal letters to people
[49:10] and usually they'll respond
[49:13] so i haven't had that but the total of that three thousand dollars all
[49:19] of those things that you just spoke
[49:21] about
[49:21] come out of that three thousand dollars
[49:23] minus what you
[49:25] your hourly rate is when you're out
[49:27] there with it
[49:29] so we're not talking about just three
[49:32] thousand dollars here we're talking
[49:34] probably in the vicinity of it
[49:38] okay just a second ago you said it
[49:40] didn't so that was why i was asking
[49:42] again publication
[49:46] education and then if we did need to
[49:49] hire someone
[49:50] which i've never had to so that money's
[49:52] been spent on that
[49:54] so and then about nine years ago
[49:58] the board of supervisors said the
[50:01] recommissioner's budget
[50:02] can
[50:07] basically pay the environmental health
[50:10] department
[50:10] for the time that the sanitarians spent
[50:12] on weekends so
[50:14] the beginning when i first took it on
[50:16] which was
[50:17] supervisor said oh by the way the
[50:19] sanitarian usually does the wheat
[50:20] pressure
[50:22] so there's no there's no um
[50:25] [Music]
[50:26] compensation for the time that the
[50:28] sanitarium
[50:29] spent on means the first like six years
[50:35] and then board decided to do that
[50:37] compensation
[50:38] so that's
[50:52] yes
[50:59] as far as russ goes we don't
[51:01] particularly have a dog behind it's just
[51:02] simply
[51:03] i didn't get the impression from scott
[51:04] that he was particularly enamored with
[51:06] the idea um
[51:08] but as i look at it with the 61 hours
[51:11] we're talking about an hour a week i
[51:12] mean how can that be
[51:15] um no i'm not i'm not
[51:18] completely oblivious to the fact that
[51:20] you may have six hours this week
[51:22] and no hours for the next six weeks i
[51:24] understand
[51:26] what my my point simply is is that
[51:29] if all we're required to do is have a
[51:32] wheat commissioner
[51:34] and put out public notice
[51:38] uh and respond to complaints i don't
[51:40] think
[51:41] um if the situation
[51:45] needed to be that we needed to go out
[51:47] and spray something we have people that
[51:48] can do that without hiring it
[51:51] to the outsider
[51:55] but we wouldn't be doing it on private
[51:56] land anyway it would be the
[51:57] responsibility of the proper home to do
[51:59] it on private land
[52:00] they've been noticed that they're being
[52:03] uh or there's
[52:04] they've been certain notice that they
[52:05] need to eradicate the weeds now unless
[52:07] what you're saying is that they don't
[52:09] you do
[52:10] right if they don't then then is that
[52:12] where we've already got the legal
[52:14] requirement to actually
[52:15] then is that charged back to the
[52:17] property owner yeah
[52:21] and i'm not what i'm saying is is that
[52:24] um
[52:26] it if we'd act strictly on complaint
[52:31] um then i see
[52:35] i don't see the need to budget three
[52:36] thousand dollars a year
[52:38] number one number two uh if we act
[52:41] strictly on complaint then i suppose
[52:45] you know branch or somebody from the
[52:47] engineer's office could run out and see whether or not then you've got
[52:50] to write the laws i guess the question
[52:52] amen
[52:56] and so what i'm saying is that
[52:59] without increasing the budget we have an
[53:01] entity that can do
[53:02] all of that right okay
[53:05] however into darren's thought process i
[53:08] think
[53:08] is and to dance we don't generally spend
[53:11] the entire enchilada
[53:13] during the course of the year correct
[53:15] but in this case if we uh gave it to
[53:22] for us it would be the entire enchilada
[53:25] they would make sure that they had a
[53:26] certification they could do this
[53:28] i mean they you know as far as that
[53:30] aspect of it goes
[53:32] but why can't they just absorb this and
[53:35] what they're doing already
[53:38] i'm not saying that they can't i'm
[53:40] saying that
[53:41] um
[53:45] taking i mean i mean i could certainly
[53:47] ask that question
[53:49] for that
[54:05] it's like what's next you know there's
[54:07] public health
[54:08] board gets
[54:16] i asked dan that question are we talking
[54:18] immediately are we talking about
[54:20] the fiscal year his comment was
[54:23] immediately
[54:24] or you know he wanted to write the
[54:25] letter to bring everybody up to speed
[54:28] and so that's the reason that we're
[54:31] discussing it now
[54:32] is because yeah
[54:46] i don't know that's just my initial
[54:48] feeling i don't think
[54:49] the hours that you're putting in and i
[54:51] don't mean this this recently i just
[54:53] don't think it's an inordinate amount of
[54:54] time
[54:55] that you produced your hours at uh
[54:58] you know to the board of health but you
[55:00] also knew what you were getting into
[55:02] when you asked to do that
[55:04] you've
[55:20] [Music]
[55:32] so they're paying no to do it no
[55:35] that was he talking now you just told
[55:37] him you just told him
[55:39] up until this year up until
[55:42] fiscal year 21 there's no reimbursement
[55:47] from the commissioner's budget to the
[55:49] environmental health
[55:52] i must have misunderstood i thought it
[55:54] used to be yes
[55:55] i misunderstood as well i think what dan
[55:58] is saying
[55:59] if chris was here i think she would say
[56:01] correct because i know i've had
[56:02] conversations
[56:03] with her in past years where they do
[56:06] track
[56:07] how much of his time is spent
[56:10] right so i don't think
[56:13] it has been now we should check with
[56:15] chris before we
[56:17] verify that here's the reason we
[56:20] checked with chris and and my assumption
[56:23] was the same as darren's
[56:24] mine was two based on
[56:28] years that three thousand dollars it was
[56:31] for the cost
[56:32] of the week commission now
[56:35] if if you know if nobody's invoiced or
[56:39] has been reimbursed or
[56:40] he didn't he didn't what do you want to
[56:43] call it
[56:44] uh provide a claim whatever the case may
[56:46] be the money was there for that purpose
[56:48] that's the reason the board put that
[56:50] look if we're not going to do
[56:53] if all the dan's done up to this point
[56:56] and i'm not saying this is small i'm
[56:57] just saying all that's been done up to
[56:58] this point is
[56:59] the public notice the writing of the
[57:02] letters
[57:03] uh and you know potentially all we ever
[57:06] have the hiring
[57:07] of somebody to go out and spray
[57:10] but we've never paid for it there was no
[57:12] point to have three thousand dollars set
[57:14] aside in that bucket and there still
[57:15] isn't
[57:17] you know now this year uh
[57:21] i don't know what made this year
[57:22] different other than you've reduced your
[57:24] hours so is the board of health getting
[57:26] reimbursed or are you getting paid
[57:29] so part of the negotiation to lower my
[57:33] hours
[57:33] lower my cost was because russ said
[57:37] they would do the week commissioner part
[57:40] of it
[57:40] for nothing that's right
[57:44] okay and i said okay i will do it
[57:48] environmental health will do it for zero
[57:51] and that's for this fiscal year
[57:52] prior to this fiscal year yeah i would
[57:55] turn in a claim at the end of the year
[57:57] for the time that i spent doing
[58:00] commissioner
[58:00] things and therefore i would get
[58:03] reimbursed from the lead commissioner
[58:06] environmental health would get
[58:08] reimbursed from the weak commissioner's
[58:10] budget
[58:11] for that time that i spent okay so
[58:13] that's not going to happen this year all
[58:15] right
[58:16] is that am i making myself clear yeah
[58:18] okay so
[58:19] it has been in the past you've changed
[58:21] it to this year that's right
[58:22] okay i misunderstood but i go back to my
[58:26] point
[58:26] it's it's not under the jurisdiction for
[58:28] the board of health
[58:30] we could still not pay you correct
[58:34] or to reimburse them for the time that
[58:36] you spend on that as part of the
[58:37] partnership
[58:38] so i guess the question then that needs
[58:40] to be answered from your
[58:42] perspective because you're the one
[58:43] that's out there in the weeds
[58:48] is our construction business in the
[58:53] unincorporated areas of the county
[58:55] so good uh
[58:58] or in those communities that aren't
[59:02] seward as we don't have it in account
[59:06] um are we so busy that
[59:09] uh it takes all your time now to do that
[59:11] as opposed to one hour a week well it's not what i wanted to
[59:16] point out so
[59:21] and i'm doing state mosquito
[59:23] surveillance
[59:24] right now so that's three three times a
[59:26] week i have to collect these fields
[59:28] that brings in more revenue in the whole
[59:31] commissioner budget
[59:32] okay and then i have the pool
[59:35] inspections painting inspections tattoo
[59:37] inspections
[59:38] i do i usually do the state well survey
[59:40] too
[59:41] this time here they decided not to do it
[59:44] this year but they usually do it this
[59:45] time
[59:46] um it's just and of course
[59:50] septic systems climate transfers
[59:53] how many steps
[59:57] uh it was probably around 65 or so
[1:00:03] and what time did they putting in
[1:00:06] yeah mostly standard brokers
[1:00:14] and then and then there's time and
[1:00:16] transfer instructions
[1:00:17] that which brought in last let's go here
[1:00:23] so i'm going to go back to you um
[1:00:27] if i am stating this incorrectly please
[1:00:30] say so but i
[1:00:31] felt like that you would prefer not
[1:00:33] being
[1:00:34] or in the engineering department or in
[1:00:36] the room commissioner
[1:00:40] um
[1:00:44] i can reach out to see
[1:00:48] what arrangements can be made
[1:00:53] do you want to wait
[1:00:56] i want to be here do you want to wait
[1:00:58] till budget time before you make the
[1:01:00] change and let this fiscal year
[1:01:01] close i mean that's insane this will
[1:01:04] kind of depend on what russ
[1:01:05] says partially but that's my preference
[1:01:16] well things can be overlooked when it
[1:01:18] comes to budget time
[1:01:20] that this was changed in september
[1:01:23] and now we're in march and it's like
[1:01:26] well what did we do then as soon as you
[1:01:29] remember oh yeah that was only part of
[1:01:31] the year
[1:01:32] right right when you look back
[1:01:36] guys the opportunity into the budget
[1:01:39] year
[1:01:40] to uh just say russ says no
[1:01:43] we're not going to do it that way it
[1:01:44] gives you the opportunity to explore
[1:01:46] other options before you make a decision
[1:01:48] right now it's kind of rushed
[1:01:50] right
[1:01:55] actually it's a good time to bring it so
[1:01:57] this is time to
[1:01:59] look at options right
[1:02:02] i think if there's some
[1:02:06] kind of engineering departments out
[1:02:09] there to
[1:02:11] take care of the wheat conditioning i
[1:02:13] mean they must have
[1:02:14] i mean there's some people that have
[1:02:16] somebody that takes care of all the
[1:02:18] planting
[1:02:20] and doesn't does a lot of things
[1:02:23] with um with those kinds of related
[1:02:27] issues
[1:02:28] but it's still all in the right way i
[1:02:30] mean i don't know how you have
[1:02:33] i guess we should actually speak to
[1:02:37] one of these counties that are listed
[1:02:38] here johnson musk
[1:02:40] team scott benton iowa dallas
[1:02:43] des moines henry and wapelo counties
[1:02:46] have their wheat commissioners
[1:02:48] on their county roadways so
[1:02:51] henry and wappalow are smaller than
[1:02:55] i think the rest of those
[1:02:58] like scott county they they've got
[1:03:00] probably three times as many staffers
[1:03:03] well that's the thing that's the thing
[1:03:05] if if
[1:03:07] you reach out to these counties um
[1:03:11] and i can call their county supervisors
[1:03:13] and i can talk to mark at the next
[1:03:15] school meeting okay the reason i say
[1:03:16] that is is because i would like to know
[1:03:18] whether or not they have somebody on
[1:03:20] staff
[1:03:20] time that does that what their policies
[1:03:24] are before it's not going to be a
[1:03:27] decision that i make but i think it's
[1:03:29] information about me
[1:03:31] because if we're talking if we're
[1:03:32] talking about what we're doing with dan
[1:03:35] and maybe we've taken advantage of dan
[1:03:37] over the years but if we're talking
[1:03:38] about what we're doing with dan as
[1:03:39] opposed to
[1:03:40] bringing a body on you know even
[1:03:43] part-time
[1:03:44] with benefits i in other words paying
[1:03:46] the ideas paying me
[1:03:47] um and maybe we've had the best of both
[1:03:50] worlds here
[1:03:51] i'm not saying that we haven't but um
[1:03:54] here's an opportunity to get all your
[1:03:56] ducks involved before you make a
[1:03:57] decision
[1:03:58] right and i know maybe that's not what
[1:04:01] you want at this point but we're
[1:04:03] you know we're about three and
[1:04:07] we're starting we're not even through
[1:04:09] the first
[1:04:10] quarter of this fiscal year
[1:04:13] so yeah no i didn't that might be one of
[1:04:17] the decisions and that's fine i just
[1:04:19] felt content
[1:04:20] because i put environmental health first
[1:04:24] and then
[1:04:26] [Music]
[1:04:38] and go ahead and talk to bruce let's see
[1:04:39] what he says
[1:04:41] so like you say now is a good time to
[1:04:42] have a discussion so we can get some
[1:04:44] information
[1:04:47] so i will i'll do that what scott's
[1:04:50] preference is
[1:04:52] um
[1:05:07] if you could just look those up and then
[1:05:09] email me
[1:05:10] well especially henry because that's one
[1:05:12] yeah but i can call i can call
[1:05:14] greg muller and i can call jerry parker
[1:05:17] and get those answers
[1:05:18] it's just you know or jim carrey for des
[1:05:21] moines county in fact i have a meeting
[1:05:23] with well not with jerry with reagan and
[1:05:27] jim um about two weeks so i can bring that up you know as far as
[1:05:33] that part goes
[1:05:34] um
[1:05:40] so we're going to reach out to those
[1:05:42] folks
[1:05:44] but it may be appropriate to to
[1:05:47] reach out to the engineer's office
[1:06:03] if they're reimbursed that way or if
[1:06:05] that's just
[1:06:06] a duty that's covered by the road
[1:06:08] department
[1:06:09] they may have an assistant a county
[1:06:12] engineer to the assistant county
[1:06:13] engineer i don't know
[1:06:16] just they may have multiple duties of
[1:06:18] course now aaron has mentioned that he's
[1:06:20] got a couple hours a week that he's
[1:06:22] trying to fill
[1:06:23] so anyway one other thing
[1:06:28] [Music]
[1:06:51] they need to be certified because
[1:06:53] they're actually uh
[1:06:55] they're doing they're not they're not
[1:07:11] so to operate the boomer you have to be
[1:07:15] certified
[1:07:16] uh because it it has some
[1:07:19] amount of uh herbicide in the blades protecting the ground
[1:07:39] looking for
[1:07:45] there's certain properties where where
[1:07:48] the county owns the land
[1:07:50] next to the road so we take care of
[1:07:53] those
[1:07:53] but it would be an expansion of duties
[1:07:57] to be
[1:07:58] having to deal with private property
[1:08:00] owners
[1:08:03] and and nobody in the office was
[1:08:08] certified
[1:08:10] okay all right we'll bring this up later
[1:08:14] and uh we'll have more discussion on it
[1:08:17] before the
[1:08:18] uh budget time starts thank you yep
[1:08:21] thank you all right let's uh move on
[1:08:24] to discuss and consider property tax
[1:08:27] suspensions
[1:08:31] um yeah that would be good
[1:09:13] appears we have four of these
[1:09:16] that we're looking at while we're still
[1:09:19] waiting for mark
[1:09:21] and this is the annual
[1:09:25] oh and that yes sorry i
[1:09:28] missed that one laying in my pile thank
[1:09:30] you abby
[1:09:32] i appreciate that so we have five
[1:09:35] actually that we're looking at
[1:09:45] all uh right talking about the
[1:09:49] property tax suspensions
[1:09:52] um we have four of them
[1:09:56] laid out here that your office and one
[1:09:59] that's a
[1:10:00] written request um
[1:10:03] [Music]
[1:10:04] is there any comments or anything that
[1:10:07] we need to know about this
[1:10:08] and how this is going to reflect most of
[1:10:11] it
[1:10:14] um
[1:10:18] but the ones from dhs are basically
[1:10:23] right which are the four that we have
[1:10:26] printed
[1:10:27] from your offices okay so i would make a
[1:10:31] motion
[1:10:31] to approve those property tax
[1:10:33] suspensions
[1:10:35] uh that were eligible through dhs
[1:10:40] okay we have four of them that were
[1:10:43] approved through
[1:10:44] dhs we have emotions from endemic and a
[1:10:47] second from sandquist
[1:10:49] to approve those all those in favor say
[1:10:52] aye
[1:10:54] all those opposed same sign motion
[1:10:56] carries
[1:10:58] all right now uh this one concerning the
[1:11:01] johnsons
[1:11:06] is there anything specific that we need
[1:11:09] to know about this mark
[1:11:10] that is coming through your office
[1:11:22] no this was a written request
[1:11:26] coming through this is the one that has
[1:11:28] gone
[1:11:29] through the usda it was best road
[1:11:32] from a mortgage way back in the early
[1:11:34] 90s
[1:11:35] and somehow we
[1:11:38] were doing suspensions
[1:11:41] as though they weren't through dhs after
[1:11:46] quite a bit of looking into it
[1:11:50] on our part we found that that is
[1:11:53] supposed to be escrow
[1:11:54] the usda is supposed to be taking care
[1:11:56] of it so in that sense
[1:11:58] mr johnson is correct the part that mr
[1:12:01] johnson didn't understand was
[1:12:02] he still opposed that but that's between
[1:12:05] him and the usda
[1:12:06] so these taxes should not be suspended
[1:12:09] because the usda should be paying them
[1:12:12] as they are
[1:12:13] okay and the fact is is that he was
[1:12:16] paying his monthly well
[1:12:18] for state of uh
[1:12:22] and they were supposed to be setting
[1:12:24] aside x amount of dollars out of that
[1:12:26] taxes they failed to do so it's his
[1:12:29] property
[1:12:30] so to speak and he's responsible for it
[1:12:34] but he gave them the money this is
[1:12:37] sorry i don't know no no that's fine
[1:12:39] this wasn't the
[1:12:41] same there was that guy that was in here
[1:12:46] not long ago
[1:13:01] no this is the one that comes every year
[1:13:06] so it's good information to know that
[1:13:09] yeah there was quite a bit of
[1:13:13] a past new balance right that usda
[1:13:16] has taken
[1:13:26] so there's there's really no action that
[1:13:29] the board can take when it comes to this
[1:13:31] application
[1:13:32] then that's what we're hearing doesn't
[1:13:34] it
[1:13:35] okay are you still on if we don't act on
[1:13:38] it
[1:13:39] yes pat is still with us yes make sure
[1:13:42] do we just just simply by motion deny
[1:13:45] the application or is there some warning that we need to include in
[1:13:48] that or do we just not ask on that
[1:13:51] right you can you cannot act on it you
[1:13:53] can deny it you can do
[1:13:55] either of those things
[1:14:08] to deny the property tax expansion
[1:14:13] for james and joanne johnson
[1:14:18] based on the information that's part of
[1:14:21] their escrow with investigating
[1:14:25] all right i have a motion from dimmett a
[1:14:27] second from sandquist
[1:14:28] to deny this application from property
[1:14:31] tax suspension
[1:14:32] for james and jolene johnson
[1:14:36] all those in favor say hi hi
[1:14:40] all those opposed same sign motion
[1:14:43] carries
[1:14:45] so thank you very much mark i appreciate
[1:14:48] the information that you gave us
[1:14:53] okay now we'll move on to make committee
[1:14:58] reports
[1:15:03] they're working on establishing
[1:15:06] community
[1:15:09] in a indicators survey which they
[1:15:11] typically do
[1:15:13] some examples are for some of the
[1:15:14] children of poland organizations and out
[1:15:17] of three counties support jefferson
[1:15:18] county's
[1:15:19] lowest lifers grandmother received
[1:15:24] during first trimester children are in
[1:15:27] kindergarten with preschool experience
[1:15:30] and there's several of these but um this
[1:15:32] is the kind of thing that they
[1:15:35] look at with their indicators of success
[1:15:39] basically
[1:15:40] so i thought that might be of interest
[1:15:43] um
[1:15:43] [Music]
[1:15:44] then i also had brilliant
[1:15:48] summit which was through the iowa rural
[1:15:52] development commission
[1:15:53] with um joshua
[1:15:58] and that was virtual this year normally
[1:16:01] it would be somewhere
[1:16:02] up north but it turned it was thursday
[1:16:05] and friday so it was
[1:16:06] informative to learn what other
[1:16:08] communities are doing and
[1:16:10] some of the innovative things going on
[1:16:13] um
[1:16:14] met with
[1:16:15] [Music]
[1:16:17] a citizen and a person is the marketing
[1:16:20] director for the well who's coming
[1:16:22] um to fairfield and of course code has
[1:16:25] slowed them down they kind of
[1:16:27] we're going to announce right around
[1:16:28] koga then they have announced now but
[1:16:30] they're coming and so
[1:16:31] they wanted to meet with me about
[1:16:34] poverty and resources and things like
[1:16:36] that in careful so i spent some time
[1:16:38] with them the other day
[1:16:40] and gave them information about that
[1:16:45] food insecurity um
[1:16:49] and workforce development they're down
[1:16:51] to
[1:16:53] we need and workforce development local
[1:16:55] board which is
[1:16:56] like 14 counties so it's not local as in
[1:16:59] jefferson county
[1:17:01] but the way it's being redundant which
[1:17:04] is good 51
[1:17:05] of the members need to be businesses
[1:17:07] which is great that's the way it should
[1:17:09] be
[1:17:10] and they need two more businesses i
[1:17:12] asked one in town and they weren't able
[1:17:14] to
[1:17:15] right now put their time commitments
[1:17:20] that they need females because with any
[1:17:23] of these boards like this you need to
[1:17:24] have a gender balance and other
[1:17:26] requirements of the state
[1:17:28] so if there's any businesses out there
[1:17:30] that are interested in this most of it's
[1:17:32] virtual right now
[1:17:34] um please let me know
[1:17:37] lee um i think
[1:17:41] nothing you're sharing met with the
[1:17:43] steve at the radio station last week and
[1:17:45] i think
[1:17:47] if my calculations are correct you will
[1:17:49] meet next month
[1:17:51] i'll meet in october because you still
[1:17:53] won't be eligible so
[1:17:55] um that will be my small song okay
[1:17:58] all right thank you for doing that lee
[1:18:01] i've been on the month before so i
[1:18:03] thought it would be good if we had
[1:18:05] making parents up there uh i had a
[1:18:08] meeting with
[1:18:09] uh semco this week
[1:18:12] we had a public hearing off of
[1:18:16] through an environmental engineering
[1:18:18] firm that
[1:18:19] tracks movement of
[1:18:22] ground gas through monitoring wells
[1:18:26] and we have found that
[1:18:29] we only have one monitoring well out
[1:18:31] there that has
[1:18:33] a hazard of methane gas
[1:18:36] leaching through it we have put into
[1:18:40] place mitigation
[1:18:41] strategy so that we can uh
[1:18:44] monitor the wealth more closely and find
[1:18:47] out how far
[1:18:48] that contamination spreads
[1:18:52] it's in keokuk county that's that's
[1:18:55] where the landfill is
[1:18:56] at uh sits right it's
[1:19:00] well on the site uh the wells are are
[1:19:02] placed on the perimeter of the site
[1:19:04] so that they can monitor what is running
[1:19:07] out from
[1:19:08] the landfill there are some cells that
[1:19:10] aren't lined
[1:19:12] out there and those are the ones that
[1:19:13] are being monitored more closely than
[1:19:15] the ones that are lined uh they also look for leakage
[1:19:20] which is
[1:19:22] biomaterial that that flows through the
[1:19:24] ground along with it
[1:19:26] we do a real good job of collecting that
[1:19:29] putting it into
[1:19:30] a retaining pond and then pumping that
[1:19:33] pond and taking it to
[1:19:35] different sewage treatment facilities in
[1:19:37] order to be able to have that
[1:19:38] process to go back out into the
[1:19:40] environment at that point in time
[1:19:42] so where's nothing coming from do i know
[1:19:44] for sure um the methane comes
[1:19:46] from the decomposition of material out
[1:19:49] there
[1:19:50] in the fill and what i'm doing that is
[1:19:53] in my
[1:19:53] work with food waste we send so much
[1:19:56] food waste
[1:19:58] to the landfill that that's
[1:20:01] can be a cause
[1:20:10] [Music]
[1:20:11] a root cause of what causes that
[1:20:14] what brings that methane out but um
[1:20:18] it is something that can be recommended
[1:20:20] to the public that if they've got
[1:20:22] food waste such as potato peelings or
[1:20:25] cucumber peelings or whatever try to
[1:20:28] compost that yourself
[1:20:30] on site rather than running it down a
[1:20:32] garbage disposer
[1:20:34] or putting it into the trash to be taken
[1:20:36] away by the
[1:20:39] trash outlet that we have here in the
[1:20:42] community and other communities around
[1:20:44] um the the one key
[1:20:48] thing that that the environmental
[1:20:50] engineer
[1:20:51] said and he works for a large number
[1:20:55] of landfills across the state of iowa
[1:21:00] we are the only landfill that over the
[1:21:02] last five-year time period have been
[1:21:05] able to lower
[1:21:06] our tipping fees because of how the
[1:21:08] waste is handled
[1:21:10] out at our landfill and he says that screams volumes about the people
[1:21:16] that
[1:21:17] we have in place out there to not only
[1:21:19] be the contractor for the site
[1:21:21] to compact all the trash and to monitor
[1:21:24] the cells and the life of the cells
[1:21:27] as well as the director that we have on
[1:21:29] site out there
[1:21:31] we do very well we're pretty much a
[1:21:34] zero gain when it comes to
[1:21:37] money that's taken into the landfill we
[1:21:39] have to put money aside for
[1:21:42] future cells that may be put online or
[1:21:45] have to be constructed
[1:21:47] and purchase surrounding
[1:21:51] land to the landfill in order to do that
[1:21:54] right now the neighbors were all
[1:21:56] notified um
[1:21:58] within what was it uh anybody that's
[1:22:01] within
[1:22:04] 250 or 300 feet of the landfill itself
[1:22:08] as a neighboring property owner who was
[1:22:09] notified of this public
[1:22:11] meeting we only had one person that was
[1:22:13] there and that's
[1:22:14] uh mike hadley who is also on the board
[1:22:17] he's the supervisor in keokuk county
[1:22:20] um he has property that sits right next
[1:22:23] to the landfill itself and
[1:22:25] he says he's had no no problems with
[1:22:28] what's been going on
[1:22:29] over the years out there and uh we have
[1:22:32] been doing
[1:22:33] really well and we
[1:22:36] are already discussing whether we want
[1:22:38] to change our meetings from
[1:22:40] monthly to quarterly because
[1:22:44] uh at one time a monthly meeting was
[1:22:47] necessary because
[1:22:49] things were kind of in a disarray out
[1:22:51] there
[1:22:52] and now with the leadership that we have
[1:22:54] we feel more comfortable
[1:22:55] that if we don't necessarily have any
[1:22:58] item that truly needs to be
[1:23:00] on discussion at that meeting that we
[1:23:03] not have a meeting that month
[1:23:05] we also found that through this coded
[1:23:07] time period
[1:23:08] that a quarterly meeting was more
[1:23:11] effective
[1:23:12] for us so i think we're we're
[1:23:15] trying to at least think about moving
[1:23:17] that direction
[1:23:19] so the landfill has been doing good you
[1:23:22] can still
[1:23:24] as a private individual you can still
[1:23:26] take your garbage out
[1:23:28] the landfill if you clean out your house
[1:23:30] you want to get rid of it all
[1:23:31] take it out there you can um it's good
[1:23:34] if you call
[1:23:35] ahead of time they will accommodate you
[1:23:38] if you show up
[1:23:39] gate now previously they weren't doing
[1:23:41] that because
[1:23:42] of coven restrictions and
[1:23:45] the staff out there is
[1:23:49] five total people so
[1:23:53] if someone was having to come down with
[1:23:55] something then the whole staff would be
[1:23:57] quarantined which means the whole
[1:23:59] landfill would be quarantined which
[1:24:00] means
[1:24:01] nothing would come in even from
[1:24:03] commercial haulers
[1:24:04] in that case so we found that there's
[1:24:08] a lot of a lot of electronic means that
[1:24:13] we've utilized during this covid time
[1:24:15] period that allows
[1:24:16] truck drivers to stay in their trucks
[1:24:18] people that bring
[1:24:19] trash out to stay in their vehicles
[1:24:22] while it's being taken off
[1:24:24] by the workers there at the plant
[1:24:28] you don't have to hand them a ticket any
[1:24:31] longer they can get the tickets
[1:24:32] electronically for what they brought out
[1:24:35] for weight and cost and all of that you
[1:24:38] can also pay
[1:24:39] either there or you can pay
[1:24:41] electronically now
[1:24:43] for that so we will continue those types of
[1:24:50] activities
[1:24:51] and move more towards a quote hands-free
[1:24:56] situation when it comes to people
[1:24:58] bringing in waste and leaving the site so uh
[1:25:03] those those are some real positives that
[1:25:05] we came from
[1:25:07] not only the review that we do uh with
[1:25:10] our
[1:25:10] environmental engineer for the site but
[1:25:12] as well as
[1:25:13] site management and bill slu
[1:25:16] so i think we we do extremely well out
[1:25:20] there
[1:25:21] all right um we'll move on to any public
[1:25:24] comments that we might have here
[1:25:28] anything you'd like to comment on i
[1:25:30] guess
[1:25:31] sure um
[1:25:50] and i'm used to
[1:26:01] and and you know listed out some things
[1:26:05] may be true
[1:26:10] [Music]
[1:26:20] i thought that i was always free to be
[1:26:22] able to
[1:26:23] do whatever i wanted to in the country
[1:26:26] um
[1:26:27] and so not only does it come as a shock
[1:26:30] but
[1:26:31] you know it's it's being it's i feel
[1:26:33] like it's being forced on me
[1:26:36] you know that's being posed on me and if
[1:26:39] i don't do it
[1:26:40] i'm threatened with a fight
[1:26:43] or a video so i'm trying to adjust to that
[1:27:02] um
[1:27:06] start cleaning it up but at the same
[1:27:09] time i'm wondering
[1:27:10] and why why is there this ordinance is it
[1:27:26] necessary
[1:27:28] can people who live in their country
[1:27:33] remotely i'm at the end of the ground
[1:27:36] road there might be one or two cars that
[1:27:39] come down that road each day
[1:27:43] and i have one neighbor
[1:27:53] and i don't expect
[1:27:56] to talk with lee on that with
[1:28:00] i don't expect any special treatment you
[1:28:02] know because of my situation or whatever
[1:28:04] i know you have to handle it equally for
[1:28:08] everybody
[1:28:09] if you're going to have an ordinance it
[1:28:10] has to be across the line
[1:28:13] so um so i'm wondering is it possible
[1:28:16] that you guys can consider
[1:28:19] this ordinance is it totally necessary
[1:28:23] is it cost worthy
[1:28:25] or is it something that needs to be
[1:28:27] there
[1:28:29] so that's that's my question
[1:28:33] is it something that should be willing
[1:28:34] to consider
[1:28:37] is it productive you know is it
[1:28:40] that's a great question yeah i mean
[1:28:43] there's a lot of people who won't live
[1:28:45] in the country
[1:28:46] and not be bothered by anybody you know
[1:28:51] that's the 64-hour question um when you
[1:28:55] weigh that against the cost
[1:28:57] um that's something you know it's an
[1:28:59] actual question one that we've arm
[1:29:01] wrestled with not just this
[1:29:04] makeup on previous boards um as
[1:29:07] i indicated to you during our
[1:29:09] conversation uh my problem has always
[1:29:12] been and
[1:29:13] i'm sure pat's still listening he gets
[1:29:15] tired of listening to me but nonetheless
[1:29:18] i've always been
[1:29:22] i've never had a dog in the hunt if you
[1:29:24] want to repeal it or if we don't want to
[1:29:26] enforce it then let's repeat it it's
[1:29:27] always been my mantra but if we're not going to
[1:29:31] repeat it then it has to be enforced
[1:29:34] equally equal application and
[1:29:37] we can't in my estimation i may be wrong
[1:29:40] but in my estimation if it's in the
[1:29:43] unincorporated areas of the county which
[1:29:45] is where the ordinance applies
[1:29:47] i can't make the distinction of whether
[1:29:49] or not you're on the end of a gravel
[1:29:50] road or you have a neighbor
[1:29:53] and by definition that definition is
[1:29:56] what's outlined in the nuisance
[1:29:58] so if i have a neighbor on the one hand
[1:30:01] whose property is is not congested with vehicles with
[1:30:06] weeds with dilapidated buildings
[1:30:09] it directly affects the value of their
[1:30:11] property i can verify that through the
[1:30:13] county assessor's office it has an
[1:30:14] impact
[1:30:16] plus you know it also
[1:30:20] we had one down here in the southwest
[1:30:21] corner of
[1:30:24] town actually it's actually surrounded
[1:30:25] by town but it's one of those
[1:30:27] islands that we talk about
[1:30:31] the property was absolutely at one point
[1:30:33] was a gorgeous property but
[1:30:35] this this individual had a passion for
[1:30:37] bringing things in
[1:30:38] we drove it wrong i mean it was and yet
[1:30:42] there was a three four hundred thousand
[1:30:44] dollar home next to it
[1:30:45] that was being impacted
[1:30:49] by it but if i tell this individual that
[1:30:52] you have to remove the cars you have to
[1:30:54] do this
[1:30:55] in terms of equal application i don't
[1:30:57] see how i can make a distinction
[1:30:59] based on definition as to where
[1:31:03] that nuisance is located if it's defined
[1:31:06] as a nuisance in the ordinance it's a
[1:31:08] nuisance whether it's at the end of the
[1:31:09] road
[1:31:10] or whether you have a neighbor and
[1:31:12] conversely
[1:31:15] i have a property down in what i call
[1:31:18] the darkest parts of the continent just
[1:31:20] north of the mountaineer county line
[1:31:22] there's no neighbor down there
[1:31:24] uh as far as living there's there's a
[1:31:27] property owner to the south there that
[1:31:28] owns some land
[1:31:31] um but the property is
[1:31:34] you know overgrown vehicles some of them
[1:31:36] were in the in the right of way
[1:31:37] so on and so forth but that person has
[1:31:41] exactly the same
[1:31:44] almost identical set of circumstances
[1:31:46] that you do
[1:31:47] it turns up nobody around to complain
[1:31:52] so for me personally i'm not speaking to
[1:31:55] the other two for me personally
[1:31:57] if we're going to have it it has to be
[1:32:00] applied equally to everybody in the
[1:32:02] county irrespective of what their
[1:32:05] location is in terms of absent that
[1:32:10] if you ask me um
[1:32:13] am i opposed to repeating it i think it
[1:32:17] serves a purpose
[1:32:18] but only if we apply it equally well the
[1:32:20] other piece of that
[1:32:22] and pat maybe you can add the detail
[1:32:25] there is a state
[1:32:26] law that also has
[1:32:29] pieces of the ordinance so even if we
[1:32:32] repealed the ordinance
[1:32:34] there still are certain i believe it's
[1:32:36] health and safety
[1:32:38] requirements that everybody has to have
[1:32:41] i don't know your specific items if it's
[1:32:44] a health
[1:32:45] but um so that that would still be the
[1:32:49] case
[1:32:52] and we do have to uh and i mean i've not
[1:32:55] been out
[1:32:56] to your place so i don't know if it
[1:32:58] necessarily applies but there are
[1:32:59] hazardous substances which actually
[1:33:02] includes you know combustible items
[1:33:06] and so um i think that goes
[1:33:10] into what b said yeah
[1:33:14] so um
[1:33:19] again if if you want like like i said to
[1:33:21] you
[1:33:22] yes you have the right to appeal um
[1:33:25] the appeal would be centered around
[1:33:27] excuse me the items listed
[1:33:29] in your letter as to whether or not
[1:33:31] those nuisance exists
[1:33:33] by definition and that's what we would
[1:33:35] go by is that nuisance defined and if it is
[1:33:39] then
[1:33:40] it's in the stance we
[1:33:44] as far as as far as timelines go as i
[1:33:47] indicated to you and i also talked to
[1:33:50] our compliance officer about this
[1:33:52] he's an agreement as long as you're
[1:33:55] showing progress
[1:33:56] we're not going to put the hand down as
[1:33:58] far as that partner goes
[1:34:00] it's when we get ignored or we don't
[1:34:02] show up in court or
[1:34:03] whatever those situations are but we
[1:34:05] have to move to the next step
[1:34:08] we're asking you to mitigate the
[1:34:09] nuisance but we're also well aware that
[1:34:11] sometimes
[1:34:12] that mitigation process is not something
[1:34:14] that can be done day after tomorrow
[1:34:27] this is my first term so we started
[1:34:30] it was more to only so what happened we
[1:34:33] got an
[1:34:34] increased number of complaints so many
[1:34:38] that the year i was chair i think i had
[1:34:41] like 23 letters at least now because the
[1:34:43] board
[1:34:44] did all these and we thought
[1:34:47] we need a better system if we're going
[1:34:49] to get all these complaints so that we're fair and
[1:34:53] not you know we have somebody that
[1:34:55] this is what they do so we contracted
[1:34:58] with russ
[1:34:59] so we're trying to now that we have a
[1:35:03] process in place that's more
[1:35:06] objective and not subjective then
[1:35:09] there will be a time when you need to
[1:35:11] evaluate that and say okay
[1:35:13] is it worth the money we're spending on
[1:35:16] that
[1:35:16] and the other side of that is some of
[1:35:19] the complaints come from this we've
[1:35:21] already
[1:35:22] mentioned the neighbors and in your case
[1:35:25] that's not an issue
[1:35:26] but someday if you have a different
[1:35:28] neighbor it could become one
[1:35:30] so this is probably one of the most
[1:35:32] challenges that we get because
[1:35:35] it's difficult you know it really
[1:35:40] don't live out is
[1:35:45] we moved into town my wife was dying of
[1:35:48] cancer in
[1:35:50] 2000. she moved into town for a small
[1:35:53] period of time
[1:35:54] she passed away and then my son and i
[1:35:57] moved
[1:35:57] back out there and then
[1:36:01] we were out there for a while and he was young when she died
[1:36:23] out of the house one thing oh and go
[1:36:25] back out there
[1:36:26] so i'm in the process now i'm trying to
[1:36:28] build something
[1:36:29] out there
[1:36:33] so and all my feelings
[1:36:36] once i'm living out there taking care of
[1:36:39] stuff
[1:36:41] but right now it's in transition well
[1:36:44] for the immediate it sounds like you
[1:36:45] have a work hard and that's great
[1:36:47] yeah yeah so that's gonna show
[1:37:02] one we wanted it to be looked at black
[1:37:04] and white
[1:37:06] and the reason for that is is because
[1:37:08] you and i are
[1:37:09] long time friends and it's difficult if
[1:37:13] not
[1:37:13] impossible to look at you objectively
[1:37:17] because relationship okay
[1:37:20] and or if we had just say scott for
[1:37:23] example
[1:37:24] okay being a county engineer and then
[1:37:27] how do i
[1:37:27] enforce a complaint that i get
[1:37:31] from this individual then this
[1:37:33] individual says well wait a minute
[1:37:35] you didn't do anything about dinner
[1:37:38] okay and i think that would concur then
[1:37:42] that
[1:37:43] really your legal legs don't really
[1:37:45] exist at that point and it it did as
[1:37:49] de-indicated took the burden off of us
[1:37:50] the subjectiveness of it off of us and
[1:37:53] gave it to an individual who just
[1:37:55] strictly looks at it in black and white
[1:37:57] terms
[1:37:58] and so therefore it's applied equally i
[1:38:00] go back to my original statement um i
[1:38:05] do believe that it's necessary it
[1:38:07] wouldn't break my heart if it was
[1:38:08] repealed
[1:38:10] only in the context that if we're not
[1:38:12] going to apply it equally to everybody
[1:38:14] we're going to pick and choose then i
[1:38:16] don't want it but if we're going to have
[1:38:18] it
[1:38:19] then we've got to apply it equally
[1:38:20] across yeah
[1:38:42] well you're not the lone ranger we've
[1:38:44] had lots of conversations
[1:38:46] uh and you know uh
[1:38:50] if you got a few minutes before you
[1:38:52] leave i mean before you
[1:38:53] go to where take a drive out west on old
[1:38:56] 34
[1:38:58] um on the south side of the road you
[1:39:01] can't
[1:39:02] miss it okay so this has been an ongoing
[1:39:06] problem that we've been trying to
[1:39:07] correct
[1:39:08] and it to me epitomizes the issue
[1:39:11] but for us to have any enforcement
[1:39:13] leverage
[1:39:14] on that property we have to be
[1:39:18] even-handed with everybody else
[1:39:24] you go it's just beyond where you turned
[1:39:27] south to go straight
[1:39:28] south into libertyville um it's it's
[1:39:31] over the railroad bridge and then off on
[1:39:33] the left-hand side
[1:39:34] yeah that's the thrill of
[1:39:38] [Music]
[1:39:52] yeah yeah you go underneath the freeway
[1:39:54] you keep going
[1:39:55] to the west as 34 used to go to ottumwa
[1:39:59] uh you go across the burlington northern
[1:40:02] bridge
[1:40:03] there the the libertyville corner is
[1:40:05] just uh before the
[1:40:07] bridge that goes over the railroad
[1:40:09] tracks once you're over that bridge
[1:40:11] it's off on the left-hand side about
[1:40:13] three houses down
[1:40:16] and it's like lee said you cannot
[1:40:19] miss it when you drive
[1:40:31] it's what we deal with
[1:40:38] so um yeah you're welcome
[1:40:41] thanks for coming in and and talking
[1:40:43] about it
[1:40:44] well i really enjoyed sitting here
[1:40:48] watching you guys
[1:40:52] all right okay um i would accept a
[1:40:55] motion to allow claims and approve
[1:40:57] reports
[1:40:59] okay i have a motion from dimmitt a
[1:41:01] second from sandquist
[1:41:02] all those in favor say aye hi all those
[1:41:05] opposed same sign
[1:41:07] motion carries uh discuss and consider
[1:41:10] nuisance properties
[1:41:13] i mean pat and i have been going back
[1:41:15] and forth about
[1:41:18] extracurricular uh enforcement issues
[1:41:23] he's worked very hard i don't know that
[1:41:26] we're at a point where we can
[1:41:28] my overriding concern is that
[1:41:32] we some power or another put a process
[1:41:35] in place i mean we've got the oranges i
[1:41:36] think it spells it out
[1:41:37] pat like say has been working on it um
[1:41:41] but i think the board now has to decide
[1:41:44] how much
[1:41:45] they're willing to expend on some of
[1:41:48] these properties
[1:41:49] that have not come into compliance in
[1:41:52] some cases
[1:41:53] for extended periods of time were being
[1:41:55] ignored
[1:41:56] even though they've been fined when
[1:41:57] there's been a judgment issue it's as
[1:42:00] i'm pat's going to shoot me for this but
[1:42:03] um the ongoing
[1:42:07] uh as far as i'm concerned it's an
[1:42:09] emergency exist by reason of the
[1:42:11] continuing maintenance of the nuisance
[1:42:13] as far as i'm certain a perfect example
[1:42:15] out west of town that's continuing
[1:42:17] maintenance
[1:42:19] and um i think that we have
[1:42:22] we've given them notice to abate uh they
[1:42:25] were
[1:42:26] they did
[1:42:41] we can remove that private property and
[1:42:44] i don't know the answer to that
[1:42:52] okay so that concludes
[1:42:57] the meeting here in the office we are
[1:43:00] having a road tour this morning
[1:43:02] with the county engineer to go out and
[1:43:05] look at some
[1:43:07] problems or positives that are out there
[1:43:09] that have been going on with us i'd like
[1:43:11] to thank everybody for joining us for
[1:43:13] the meeting today
[1:43:14] and uh we'll get this posted up thank
[1:43:17] you
[1:43:22] i have a motion from dimmitt from
[1:43:24] sandquist to adjourn
[1:43:26] all those in favor say aye aye all those
[1:43:29] opposed same
[1:43:30] sign motion carries