1 00:00:00,500 --> 00:00:07,980 Okay, good morning, Jefferson County Board of Commissioners. It is March 12, 2025, and it is 815. 2 00:00:08,540 --> 00:00:15,280 We're going to get started with our administrative session, which is our department heads, electeds, and 3 00:00:24,180 --> 00:00:35,900 So I feel like I gave a pretty good update last time I was here this is can you is this go through Lindsey can you hear me all right. 4 00:00:37,420 --> 00:00:41,520 I really don't have too much more to add we just swore in Brad Hamlin. 5 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,380 you're just came back to us to fill that ATV position yesterday. 6 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,320 Other than that, I almost said no report. 7 00:00:50,540 --> 00:00:51,400 I feel like it's just a chair. 8 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,620 But other than that, yeah, I don't really have too much more than that. 9 00:01:00,900 --> 00:01:02,180 Yep. Yeah. 10 00:01:05,940 --> 00:01:09,440 I lack of doing things for sure. But people 11 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,360 are going to prison. That's part of it. 12 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,820 didn't get some long-term stays out of the jail, so yeah, 13 00:01:21,980 --> 00:01:26,900 how was your conversation with the City of Maghars? 14 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:51,020 There hasn't been anything since, they really reached out. I was supposed to have a meeting with Chief Plumber on Monday, but I didn't make that meeting, so hopefully I'll catch up with him next week and get some more news on some of that. 15 00:01:51,020 --> 00:01:54,700 That may reach out to Will, figure out where they're at. 16 00:01:55,500 --> 00:01:57,900 And staffing wise, where you at. 17 00:02:03,140 --> 00:02:10,880 Technically, minus those LATCF positions were fully staffed on the patrol side. 18 00:02:11,660 --> 00:02:19,240 We do have one retirement coming up in May, and so we'll have to fill that position but 19 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,940 as far as the jail goes. I think we're still lacking one or two positions. 20 00:02:27,130 --> 00:02:27,810 Still recruiting 21 00:02:27,810 --> 00:02:31,310 on everything. Still recruiting. Still recruiting on the front office staff position. 22 00:02:32,270 --> 00:02:38,170 We got quite a few applicants for that. I think we were sitting around 18 applicants. Anything 23 00:02:41,410 --> 00:02:45,650 else? Any other questions? Yes. See you at the ranch. 24 00:02:50,330 --> 00:02:56,890 there's a lot going on but so I know some people are waiting on things. I promise 25 00:02:56,890 --> 00:03:01,970 I'm you're on my list but if you need something urgent call me. 26 00:03:05,590 --> 00:03:05,990 I won't 27 00:03:05,990 --> 00:03:08,110 elaborate on a lot of things going on. Good 28 00:03:11,020 --> 00:03:12,340 morning Phil. Good morning. 29 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,200 Community Development is rolling along. We're seeing a lot of permits and 30 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,900 applications coming in for single-family dwelling structures, 31 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:25,340 department that kind of thing. We have two staff notes I wanted to share with you. 32 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,460 Tony has been out for a bit. She's in the KDSRA via text that she'll be back on 33 00:03:29,460 --> 00:03:34,100 Monday, so I'm really looking forward to that. The other is our sanitary in 34 00:03:34,100 --> 00:03:39,600 Matt just informed me this morning that he has accepted a job and his last day 35 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:46,900 will be June 5th. So we've we've been proactive in terms of June 5th. Yes. So we've 36 00:03:46,900 --> 00:03:52,000 been proactive in terms of outreach on that, so we should be in a good place for that transition. 37 00:03:52,740 --> 00:03:57,920 And like I mentioned, I'm smiling because it's time to be back on Monday, and I can certainly use the help. 38 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,040 So, that's it. 39 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:10,480 Well, it's exciting to hear the increase in permits and activity, I'm sure it's going to continue to grow. 40 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:18,340 And I think we had mentioned earlier, keep a close eye on that, and if there is staffing 41 00:04:18,340 --> 00:04:23,300 needs, because I feel like it's going to continue to go increase. 42 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:30,260 Let us know ahead of time so we can maybe be proactive and not have a big gap in there 43 00:04:30,260 --> 00:04:31,660 where everyone's really struggling. 44 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:32,320 Sure. 45 00:04:33,740 --> 00:04:40,180 I'll be talking to Jeff and about it is I think we should be doing some forecasting on planning 46 00:04:40,180 --> 00:04:45,940 a little bit more there's quite a bit in play that I we just need more coverage there and with 47 00:04:45,940 --> 00:04:50,220 that level of coverage is I don't know what that staff will be asking and talking to have about 48 00:04:50,820 --> 00:04:53,800 that as we as we move forward and 49 00:04:56,390 --> 00:05:03,880 have we had much help as far as your desk for some planning 50 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:14,890 projects or is that still in the process contracted services we have we have reached out and we've 51 00:05:14,890 --> 00:05:31,670 engage two consultants. One has done some planning work in terms of applications. But the higher level, the more difficult stuff, neither consultant is available or kind of wanting to do what's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a tough find right now. 52 00:05:32,010 --> 00:05:38,730 We know how to do it. Staff knows how to do a lot of it, but it does get to higher level that it just is so complicated. 53 00:05:38,730 --> 00:05:51,070 If there is a little bit of help in play, if you see things come in, if there's something that you can believe off of your plate, give to one or two of them. 54 00:05:51,490 --> 00:05:51,650 Yes. 55 00:05:52,130 --> 00:05:52,330 Okay. 56 00:05:52,790 --> 00:06:04,370 So the county has also engaged Dave Allen, David Allen on a project or two and so we're both using consultant at a level and then David Allen's playing room with something. 57 00:06:04,370 --> 00:06:04,990 The 58 00:06:08,610 --> 00:06:10,610 game has the budget process gone. 59 00:06:10,970 --> 00:06:11,850 It's going well. 60 00:06:11,990 --> 00:06:12,350 Good morning. 61 00:06:12,570 --> 00:06:14,630 Give us a lease, Jefferson County Finance Director. 62 00:06:15,550 --> 00:06:17,290 Yeah, working hard at budget. 63 00:06:17,710 --> 00:06:20,330 I'm about three quarters of the way done with it. 64 00:06:20,490 --> 00:06:23,550 Gearing up to present a draft budget 65 00:06:23,550 --> 00:06:25,810 to the County Administrative Officer 66 00:06:25,810 --> 00:06:28,030 and the Budget Officer, Commissioner Simmelink. 67 00:06:28,310 --> 00:06:29,790 So looking forward to presenting that. 68 00:06:30,130 --> 00:06:33,310 Had a good day of meetings with both of them 69 00:06:33,310 --> 00:06:34,990 as well as a few different departments. 70 00:06:35,070 --> 00:06:37,250 I think we worked through a lot of questions 71 00:06:37,250 --> 00:06:41,830 and concerns for those various departments and have those ones pretty nailed down. 72 00:06:42,310 --> 00:06:48,290 I will be sending out an email to department director shortly just reminding you dates for budget hearings. 73 00:06:48,290 --> 00:06:53,550 We're about a month out from that as well as those of you who have not submitted a budget narrative yet. 74 00:06:53,870 --> 00:07:00,430 I'll be sending you a template basically what you submitted last year so you can kind of build a budget narrative for this year. 75 00:07:01,050 --> 00:07:08,050 So, be looking for that for me. I'll need that by the end of next week. So, get that out. 76 00:07:10,050 --> 00:07:18,310 I am back to being fully staffed. I had some staff out with some sick families and then out at conference for the past couple of weeks. 77 00:07:18,310 --> 00:07:25,590 So, it's been kind of light in the finance department, juggling some duties between the desks but everybody's back and healthy now. 78 00:07:25,750 --> 00:07:28,730 So, looking forward to the rest of the month of March. 79 00:07:34,630 --> 00:07:45,130 Hi, good morning, Katie Russell, Public Health, just working on budgets and work plans. 80 00:07:45,670 --> 00:07:49,790 We have our TPEP work plan we turned in on Monday, so that was exciting. 81 00:07:50,590 --> 00:07:58,290 And then we also have maternal child health that's coming up and an STI HIV plan. 82 00:07:58,290 --> 00:08:01,990 And so a lot of work plans, a lot of budgeting happening right now. 83 00:08:02,530 --> 00:08:07,710 We're also starting to look to the summer and our outreach event. 84 00:08:08,110 --> 00:08:14,730 So we have just a couple of things that we're hoping to do on a regular basis, like every 85 00:08:14,730 --> 00:08:15,110 other week. 86 00:08:15,770 --> 00:08:22,030 And then just big events here and there throughout the summer. 87 00:08:22,270 --> 00:08:26,650 So we're starting to look forward to that and figure out how we're going to staff that 88 00:08:26,650 --> 00:08:33,730 and some of our plans and supplies and things, so that's exciting. We're heading to Jefferson County 89 00:08:33,730 --> 00:08:41,130 Middle School on Friday to do their career days, so hopefully we'll plant some seeds and some 90 00:08:41,130 --> 00:08:49,350 middle schoolers to become public health employees in the future. So now I became decided to become a nurse 91 00:08:49,350 --> 00:08:54,350 This is middle school career day, so hopefully something will happen there. 92 00:08:55,230 --> 00:08:56,490 Anyways, that's it for us. 93 00:09:01,310 --> 00:09:08,350 Kate Simpke, county clerk, earlier this week we had our first key 94 00:09:08,350 --> 00:09:12,590 that meeting, that stands for Property Values Appeal Board. 95 00:09:13,090 --> 00:09:19,010 We will be hearing two petitions, the board will, next Friday, the 21st. 96 00:09:19,010 --> 00:09:35,050 Just preparing now for the special district election, we have a total of potential 55 candidates, 13 of those candidates are shared positions from the Shoots County. 97 00:09:36,550 --> 00:09:45,510 So far we have about 22 individuals who have filed for special district positions out of 42. 98 00:09:45,510 --> 00:09:54,050 two. So we're just kind of halfway there. I called or sent emails last week reminding 99 00:09:54,050 --> 00:10:01,290 the districts and I will do one more time. That's Friday. The deadline is the 20th. So next 100 00:10:01,290 --> 00:10:02,710 week is the deadline. 101 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:09,380 The final. There will be four measures on the ballot, two measures 102 00:10:09,380 --> 00:10:21,740 to the MAC. One, the library is asking, have a levy end, the lake Chinook fire and rescue. 103 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:32,060 Also, we'll be asking the public for money. In preparation for this election, we mailed out 104 00:10:32,060 --> 00:10:39,200 119 inactive notices as a second reminder to those voters whose signatures we either 105 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,280 challenged or who had a name change that was for the November election. 106 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,920 It's just part of our routine process. 107 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:55,100 We challenged 1.3 signatures or 155 out of 12,000 voted ballots that we received. 108 00:10:55,100 --> 00:11:01,760 So, we inactivate them if they didn't respond, and then we give them another opportunity 109 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:02,580 reminding them. 110 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,200 We need an updated signature is really what we're looking for. 111 00:11:07,460 --> 00:11:15,500 And then finally, but I would mention that the Secretary of State, as Reid will be 112 00:11:15,500 --> 00:11:18,900 stopping by, for a visit, April 14th. 113 00:11:18,900 --> 00:11:19,680 And 114 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:28,820 I've just a yearly update and face-to-face conversation. 115 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,880 Generally, that's something that the new secretary likes to do, is visit all the counties. 116 00:11:35,300 --> 00:11:48,760 So yeah, the last visit, I visited with the office and asked if it would be okay if we 117 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:57,840 We had representatives from the PCP's come, and they were very amiable to that, the previous administration. 118 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:10,660 So, I'll probably do the same here too, and see if they would like some company, I'd like to meet a few more members of our community. 119 00:12:12,060 --> 00:12:12,520 That's it. 120 00:12:13,620 --> 00:12:14,400 Thanks, Kate. 121 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:15,820 More than that. 122 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,180 Morning commissioners Matt Paulson, Public Works director. 123 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:24,620 So in public works we're busy with recruitment still, still looking at different applications 124 00:12:24,620 --> 00:12:28,400 and working through that. 125 00:12:28,620 --> 00:12:34,820 We have started our wheat program, Spray'n, so getting going with that. 126 00:12:35,340 --> 00:12:41,260 Working on a hazard mitigation grant through OEM and we're up to about 9 million for the 127 00:12:41,260 --> 00:12:50,880 of palisades, so just rock ball and different mitigation measures or the different geologic 128 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:59,820 features that happen down there, so hopeful on that one, but with OEM, there are some uncertainty 129 00:12:59,820 --> 00:13:02,100 with funding and different things, but working through that. 130 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:04,760 And that's focused down there at the coast. 131 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:10,920 Yeah, pretty much rimmed around from the boat ramp on the other side, so quite a few 132 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:18,420 miles of Jordan Road that you know is affected by rockfall on a regular basis so that's 133 00:13:18,420 --> 00:13:26,500 to do with you know scaling you know some netting possibly maybe some blasting some of 134 00:13:26,500 --> 00:13:32,440 the overburden so it's quite a large project you know one thing with OEM they're looking 135 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:39,380 for a 25% match so you know finding a couple million dollars I think we could probably 136 00:13:39,380 --> 00:13:45,740 partner or state parks and possibly PGE, but I guess we'll just work through those 137 00:13:45,740 --> 00:13:50,020 details as things happen, but it's a pretty good project for us. 138 00:13:51,740 --> 00:13:57,060 Also working on the capital improvement payment maintenance master plan, that was going 139 00:13:57,060 --> 00:14:01,120 well, so we're looking at all of our roads that have had deferred maintenance for decades 140 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:07,600 and come up with a plan to really address the issues that are happening with those roads. 141 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:14,840 And then we're also working on that safety action, transportation safety action plan. 142 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:20,220 So that one, hopefully, will have funding for it soon and put that plan into work. 143 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,760 Also working on the Pony Butte Paving Plan. 144 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:30,160 So that one's, we had them redesign it, so we have a really good plan now, so I'll present 145 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:36,020 that to the board and just present some options that we have with that road. 146 00:14:37,060 --> 00:14:41,460 Other than that, we're crushing rock, our rock crushers have been humming, so we're 147 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,500 doing well with getting our stockpiles built back up. 148 00:14:45,700 --> 00:14:49,700 We're also grading some roads and fixing potholes and sign work. 149 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,180 So, yeah, things are going well. 150 00:14:53,340 --> 00:14:53,700 What's your name? 151 00:14:56,300 --> 00:14:56,700 Feather. 152 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,560 You know, they came out with that. 153 00:15:00,140 --> 00:15:21,320 That new round of funding with the Congressional Directorate's spending. So I reached out to our contact there and I can't remember her name. But she said, do not apply this year that we are still in the running. We're just waiting for the Oregon budget to pass. Once that passes, then the project will get going. 154 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:26,160 Well, 155 00:15:31,100 --> 00:15:33,200 I think once the budget gets passed, 156 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:40,620 and funding's approved and those projects that were selected, I think, you know, the ball 157 00:15:40,620 --> 00:15:46,600 starts rolling in. I don't know if we'll get to it, you know, this fall. I mean, it's 158 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:54,520 a possibility. Our plan, yeah. Our plan is done. I mean, we pretty much designed the new 159 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,680 bridge. We just need to get the funding and... 160 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:06,460 I guess, because I just was in a question from the situation, is it we would have to 161 00:16:06,460 --> 00:16:08,780 reapply for this money through the state? 162 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:09,880 No. 163 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:11,020 Through the feds. 164 00:16:11,460 --> 00:16:11,580 No. 165 00:16:13,340 --> 00:16:18,200 So our project was a portion, or it was approved. 166 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,000 I think you don't have to get allocated money. 167 00:16:23,660 --> 00:16:26,980 Yeah, I think they have to get the budget balanced and passed. 168 00:16:26,980 --> 00:16:31,920 the state. The state. That's what she said. She said state budget. 169 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:34,940 But you're 170 00:16:34,940 --> 00:16:40,280 talking possibly started working to fall. Is that what you said? If if it all came 171 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:46,480 together. I mean that would be the hope. Otherwise next fall once the water gets 172 00:16:47,100 --> 00:16:56,340 shut off. So 26. But where are we at with the bridge that got closed 173 00:16:56,340 --> 00:17:02,860 November, Eureka? Yes. We're still, I mean we shorted up, we shorted up and then did they get 174 00:17:02,860 --> 00:17:09,960 reinspected or how, what is that process? We got reinspected and everything is as it was with 175 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:17,840 the temporary shorting. Okay, okay. So we still have a weight restriction and it's probably a short-term 176 00:17:21,390 --> 00:17:27,810 allowance for that weight restriction. Yeah and they'll continue to monitor it, you know. They 177 00:17:27,810 --> 00:17:32,590 inspect our bridges every year, so it'll be re-inspected again. 178 00:17:34,650 --> 00:17:35,430 But with that 179 00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:40,710 temporary shoring, they said it could last seven years, ten years. 180 00:17:41,650 --> 00:17:47,770 We got a little bit of time. No. It's not immediate threat, but what that did is 181 00:17:47,770 --> 00:17:53,090 it put us in line, you know, the way bridges work, they go off a sufficiency 182 00:17:53,830 --> 00:18:00,590 So once it's determined to have no capacity, which this bridge did, it went from having 183 00:18:00,590 --> 00:18:06,450 several thousand pound load capacity to zero, or I asked them, can I write a bicycle 184 00:18:06,450 --> 00:18:06,970 across it? 185 00:18:07,030 --> 00:18:07,470 And they said no. 186 00:18:08,170 --> 00:18:11,670 They said close the road, and that's how severe it was. 187 00:18:12,090 --> 00:18:14,850 They said we're sending someone out to see if the bridge is still standing. 188 00:18:16,410 --> 00:18:21,370 And the bridge is in good condition, but just the way they inspect, the way they look 189 00:18:21,370 --> 00:18:26,630 look at the timber structure, what it's going to do is allow us to really move our application 190 00:18:26,630 --> 00:18:30,070 up as, you know, this is an emergency. 191 00:18:32,860 --> 00:18:33,520 So, okay. 192 00:18:33,900 --> 00:18:39,160 Well, keep that on our radar because I think it'd be good for us to go out and look at it 193 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:46,420 like we had talked about and see how valuable that bridge is or if we direct some more focus 194 00:18:46,420 --> 00:18:53,760 to other things or if that's a necessity and we need to make sure that that stays open 195 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:58,360 so I think it'd be good to go out there the three of us at some point this spring and 196 00:18:58,360 --> 00:19:04,700 take a look at it, assess it, if we need to reach out to the the neighboring community to see what 197 00:19:04,700 --> 00:19:12,660 the need is for that and just value that on priority this spring. So yeah. 198 00:19:16,140 --> 00:19:18,420 They are, but I think it's a ways out. 199 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:23,920 Yeah, I asked Josh Bailey at North Unit, you know, what if we just put some culverts 200 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:29,600 in and he says, well, you can put a couple of eight foot culverts inside my side and 201 00:19:30,780 --> 00:19:34,400 he wasn't real sure on the hydraulics, but he thought that might be an option. 202 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,900 But we just want to make sure whatever we do, it aligns with their master plan. 203 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:45,500 We don't want to waste, you know, resources putting something in that they can't use when they do pipe it. 204 00:19:49,620 --> 00:19:51,520 Well, let's continue to talk about that. 205 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:57,900 Well, and I'm also just thinking of putting a whole new bridge, and then they put a pipe in and... 206 00:19:57,900 --> 00:19:59,780 Yeah, well, it's the bridge, yeah. 207 00:20:00,820 --> 00:20:02,980 Yeah, because the bridge is a million and a half. 208 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,200 I mean, why spend that resource if they're going to pipe it? 209 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:12,880 Yeah, that's all because I'm going to invite it right where 210 00:20:18,740 --> 00:20:26,600 you at with a staff map or down three mechanic and no we have two mechanics 211 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,180 two mechanics. Yeah, just three road workers. Great. 212 00:20:37,790 --> 00:20:42,650 You're right. Good morning, Ray Salise, Jefferson County 213 00:20:42,650 --> 00:20:49,610 the assessor. Yesterday, I attended public hearing before the House Revenue Committee 214 00:20:49,610 --> 00:20:56,750 at the Capitol regarding House Bill 3518. As you know, this is relating to assessment 215 00:20:56,750 --> 00:21:02,890 and taxation funding. It was very well attended, standing room only. I estimate maybe 70 people 216 00:21:03,450 --> 00:21:09,110 in their many testimonies. The bulk of the testimonies were in favor of House Bill 3518. 217 00:21:09,110 --> 00:21:15,290 Interestingly, though, there were two opposed testimonies, and they came from the Special 218 00:21:15,290 --> 00:21:20,710 District's Association. They want to get more information on some of the language in 219 00:21:20,710 --> 00:21:26,970 the bill. I think they're concerned about, well, all special districts are concerned about 220 00:21:26,970 --> 00:21:31,750 their money. They're usually single-purpose taxing districts, and they're really watching 221 00:21:31,750 --> 00:21:37,950 their nickels and their dimes. And rightly so. So I think we would invite them to the table 222 00:21:37,950 --> 00:21:41,370 absolutely to engage in the discussion and look at the issue. 223 00:21:42,270 --> 00:21:46,370 But overwhelmingly the support was in favor of this House Bill. 224 00:21:46,570 --> 00:21:49,270 So I asked the commissioners. 225 00:21:49,290 --> 00:21:51,430 Please support House Bill 3518. 226 00:21:54,290 --> 00:21:56,130 Yeah, I think we got AOC. 227 00:21:56,990 --> 00:21:58,490 I don't know what else to get extended. 228 00:21:59,390 --> 00:22:03,450 Yeah, that'll happen. 229 00:22:03,450 --> 00:22:04,850 There's plenty of bills out there. 230 00:22:04,850 --> 00:22:13,550 and so yeah they know AOC's really had a focus on that and I'm sure the staff 231 00:22:13,550 --> 00:22:19,410 were there. Yes AOC testified in favor we all met at AOC's building and walked 232 00:22:19,410 --> 00:22:25,210 over from there. Yeah well cool family event. Thank you for going over and being a 233 00:22:25,210 --> 00:22:30,150 part of that. I know it's a important bill for only our county but counties across the 234 00:22:30,150 --> 00:22:36,750 stay trained to keep things floating and getting our 235 00:22:37,370 --> 00:22:40,270 reimbursements of the work that we do. 236 00:22:42,210 --> 00:22:43,530 Well, thank you for your support. 237 00:22:44,010 --> 00:22:44,110 Yeah. 238 00:22:44,490 --> 00:22:44,910 That's right. 239 00:22:47,620 --> 00:22:48,340 Good morning. 240 00:22:48,620 --> 00:22:49,040 Good morning. 241 00:22:49,540 --> 00:22:51,160 It feels like Monday morning. 242 00:22:51,420 --> 00:22:52,400 It's going to take on a crazy back. 243 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:53,260 I'll make it back. 244 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:53,640 Right. 245 00:22:53,780 --> 00:22:56,640 So I'm actually going to have a question for you. 246 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:05,040 So, um, are you guys receiving calls about VA cuts, about our office closing, okay, we 247 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:11,160 are too, just so you know, um, so there's a lot of fear and panic out there, um, with 248 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:18,740 all the stuff on the news, so, um, formally I have to receive anything from OBV or VA 249 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:24,820 about any cuts, okay, so whatever about to share is just stuff I gather together to try 250 00:23:24,820 --> 00:23:30,700 to see what's happening in it and so you know what's being put out there and why people 251 00:23:30,700 --> 00:23:40,500 are freaking out. So on the news and online you'll find that they're going to be starting 252 00:23:40,500 --> 00:23:49,240 to cut it June 2025 this year. It's approximately 83,000 jobs and that's about 15% of the workforce. 253 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:58,020 At 30% of the workforce are veterans and half of those veterans are disabled that are employed by the VA. 254 00:23:58,620 --> 00:24:02,140 90% of the VA workers are in the health care side. 255 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,420 So they're looking to go back to staffing levels at 2019 levels. 256 00:24:08,180 --> 00:24:15,060 The problem that people are concerned about is this is before the PAC-DAC pass where they open up health care to millions of veterans. 257 00:24:15,060 --> 00:24:19,420 friends, they added like 20 cancers to the presumptive list for Gulf War, they added 258 00:24:19,420 --> 00:24:21,680 more presumptuous to the aging orange list. 259 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:31,820 So they're worried that that's going to affect health care and then there are people are 260 00:24:31,820 --> 00:24:36,720 always any time anything happens for as government shut down who will worry about their benefits 261 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:42,360 because they rely on those benefits to pay their mortgage and support their families. 262 00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:52,420 So the new VA secretary, the Collins, he reports that they're getting recommendations from 263 00:24:52,420 --> 00:24:57,800 DOGE, but DOGE is not making the decision about the cuts that he and his staff are making 264 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:58,960 decisions about the cuts. 265 00:24:59,540 --> 00:25:04,420 He is still saying that they're going to accomplish this without making cuts to health care or to 266 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:11,100 compensation benefits or fetching benefits to veterans and beneficiaries, and that there 267 00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:14,460 there are still going to hire for more than $300,000. 268 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,360 Sorry, $300,000, mission-critical positions. 269 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,000 And the focus is serving veterans better than before. 270 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,600 And that, in doing so requires organization and change. 271 00:25:28,940 --> 00:25:31,300 I do an interview he had. 272 00:25:31,420 --> 00:25:33,320 And he is aware of outdated systems. 273 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,560 I'm not sure if you guys know the part of the problem with the VA 274 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,480 with being slow with the health 275 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,700 requisites, the system they're using is over 30 years old. 276 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,620 They've been trying, they've been saying they're 277 00:25:44,620 --> 00:25:46,740 going to update it for the last eight years. 278 00:25:47,620 --> 00:25:49,860 And all this money that's been spent is still not done. 279 00:25:50,380 --> 00:25:52,980 So he is aware of the outdated technology 280 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,240 and says it's nowhere it needs to be. 281 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,200 So, you know, when people call the office, 282 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,740 I just try to assure them that we are still open, 283 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,820 because people are surprised in the call 284 00:26:05,820 --> 00:26:12,740 call the backer. I can't just think they were closed. So I tell it we know we're county employees 285 00:26:12,740 --> 00:26:20,800 like I have no knowledge of us being funded or cut or anything like that you know and we're still 286 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:26,760 proceeding on and you know if anything changes with funding or health care anything with that as soon 287 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:31,740 as I know something definitive I'll let them know so you know I'm just telling them you can either 288 00:26:31,740 --> 00:26:33,400 or wait it out and see what happens, 289 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,440 or if you're really that concerned about it, 290 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,220 then you can contact the VA Secretary yourself 291 00:26:38,220 --> 00:26:41,820 or your members of Congress and tell them you're concerned. 292 00:26:43,060 --> 00:26:44,760 But I mean, other than that, 293 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:48,240 like, you know, I have no power 294 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,680 to control anything that happens at that level. 295 00:26:51,340 --> 00:26:55,340 So I'm hoping that we're going to see 296 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,740 what updated tech, you know, 297 00:26:57,860 --> 00:26:59,740 and things are, you know, 298 00:26:59,740 --> 00:27:10,790 I'm going to run more smoothly with all of this, but I, so anyway, hopefully things will 299 00:27:10,790 --> 00:27:11,270 calm down. 300 00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:19,250 So on a different note, we are on the agenda for today for out-of-state travel, it's 301 00:27:19,250 --> 00:27:20,110 8.3. 302 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:30,200 The afternoon of March 26, OVB is asking to be on their interview of their panel for the 303 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:38,560 training team so I'll be unavailable during that time but I mean I'll still be in 304 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:45,780 the office. The welcome home veteran's dinner is Saturday March 29th 4 o'clock 305 00:27:45,780 --> 00:27:52,240 that's when the doors open they're wrap up that's the angels to get a key and 306 00:27:55,910 --> 00:28:00,950 Gabe thank you so much for Julio you guys have been helping me a lot with all these 307 00:28:00,950 --> 00:28:08,350 random people are wanting checks now instead of paid by credit card because 3% it was a lot of money that way 308 00:28:08,350 --> 00:28:12,650 So they've been having to cut quite a bit of checks for me lately with my grant money 309 00:28:12,650 --> 00:28:20,490 So I appreciate it and feel for the PSU data. I emailed you guys last week the tinier kind of way out. I was trying to 310 00:28:20,490 --> 00:28:23,330 project like what the population is going to be here 311 00:28:23,330 --> 00:28:30,030 And then the gym and full passes what I have 312 00:28:31,150 --> 00:28:39,650 with the grant money from OVA. I have a few of those left and there's still probably about 20 music lessons left. 313 00:28:40,330 --> 00:28:50,330 Joyful noise, just put out there spring semester online, so that's all I got right now. 314 00:28:50,330 --> 00:28:50,930 Thank you. 315 00:28:55,050 --> 00:28:56,990 Yeah, we can. 316 00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:58,310 I can't wait. 317 00:28:58,650 --> 00:29:01,670 I went back to office this morning, I put a sign. 318 00:29:01,870 --> 00:29:05,330 Does Kevin have any other appointments that you can need to cover? 319 00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:06,910 No. 320 00:29:07,810 --> 00:29:09,510 I've got to take care of it. 321 00:29:09,710 --> 00:29:10,570 And I made it back in time. 322 00:29:10,790 --> 00:29:11,470 So we're good. 323 00:29:11,730 --> 00:29:13,150 Okay, thank you. 324 00:29:13,490 --> 00:29:14,450 Well, thank you, Laura. 325 00:29:14,570 --> 00:29:19,370 I know it's definitely a challenging time with what's going on. 326 00:29:19,370 --> 00:29:24,910 on the fence and then even a little bit on the state side so appreciate you 327 00:29:24,910 --> 00:29:32,030 reaching out to all your clients and settling their nerves a little bit 328 00:29:32,030 --> 00:29:39,490 and I think a lot of what's going on we need to be a little patient and trust 329 00:29:39,490 --> 00:29:44,210 that our federal government is going to take care of such an important role for 330 00:29:44,210 --> 00:29:51,470 citizens, and so I think people call me then, and I'm great advice as as they do you have 331 00:29:51,470 --> 00:29:58,370 concerns to reach out to their federal leaders and voice those concerns, because it's very 332 00:29:58,370 --> 00:29:59,630 very impactful when it comes from. 333 00:30:00,050 --> 00:30:29,270 The veterans and how it's going to affect their lives or their finances. So, if you need anything from us on that, let us know. Thank you. I think we should, we're making public health, get a message out to our veterans. I know that we're not covering more speed shots on the gay, VA, some, some issues there, 334 00:30:29,270 --> 00:30:52,470 do a joint press release to get some good messaging out there as far as why I have an update on the physical therapy, they are not taking B.A. 335 00:30:54,930 --> 00:31:00,670 I think the veterans that had, you know, the authorization, I think, you know, they're 336 00:31:00,670 --> 00:31:01,590 always in my case. 337 00:31:01,730 --> 00:31:05,650 You know, they received them through that authorization, and then what's the authorization 338 00:31:05,650 --> 00:31:06,310 from them? 339 00:31:07,250 --> 00:31:10,910 So we were not able to resolve that issue, unfortunately. 340 00:31:15,050 --> 00:31:16,410 So it's a little different. 341 00:31:17,450 --> 00:31:18,390 It's a little different. 342 00:31:18,570 --> 00:31:19,130 That's us. 343 00:31:20,570 --> 00:31:29,230 Yeah, well, I'll, I'll wish my concerns to you directly in the movie because I haven't heard anything about 344 00:31:29,230 --> 00:31:32,730 the, I'll have to check in the RSV shots. 345 00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:35,630 Well, it could be, or, yeah, yeah. 346 00:31:35,630 --> 00:31:36,330 I'll go with the shot. 347 00:31:36,510 --> 00:31:36,950 I could be sure. 348 00:31:37,350 --> 00:31:37,830 I don't know. 349 00:31:38,150 --> 00:31:39,550 Not everything is free anymore. 350 00:31:39,670 --> 00:31:40,030 No funding. 351 00:31:40,610 --> 00:31:40,990 Yeah. 352 00:31:41,330 --> 00:31:44,010 So, we'll talk about that. 353 00:31:44,250 --> 00:31:44,530 Okay. 354 00:31:45,010 --> 00:31:47,590 I mean, you're thinking maybe getting something posted. 355 00:31:47,870 --> 00:31:49,910 Well, I think we're forcing constituents, 356 00:31:49,910 --> 00:31:52,210 or you know, the folks that she takes care of, 357 00:31:52,270 --> 00:31:55,650 everyone's a need to be alerted 358 00:31:55,650 --> 00:31:57,970 as to what their process is going to pull. 359 00:31:58,290 --> 00:31:58,950 That's why. 360 00:31:59,350 --> 00:31:59,950 Here's why. 361 00:32:01,550 --> 00:32:04,430 I know what's like, say, we're going down a rabbit hole. 362 00:32:04,590 --> 00:32:05,190 I don't want to go down. 363 00:32:05,410 --> 00:32:06,050 So we're going to roll. 364 00:32:06,650 --> 00:32:06,770 Okay. 365 00:32:08,110 --> 00:32:09,010 Diane, come on. 366 00:32:09,070 --> 00:32:10,050 Hey, I mean, morning. 367 00:32:10,990 --> 00:32:12,730 Diane, who was on the HR director? 368 00:32:14,730 --> 00:32:21,070 So, we are going to view, when we start on, in addition to our mobile, HR, security, 369 00:32:21,290 --> 00:32:21,650 development. 370 00:32:22,690 --> 00:32:27,530 You know, some of our program is starting on June 16th, and that's the program that we 371 00:32:27,530 --> 00:32:27,890 hire. 372 00:32:28,370 --> 00:32:30,190 I still feel there's a lot of change. 373 00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:38,390 We're in some kind of trade school kind of program, college, or whatever. 374 00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:39,830 They're going on to something like that. 375 00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:47,810 So we're going to be reaching out to Madras over high school, and all of us, the SCAC campuses, 376 00:32:48,130 --> 00:32:50,930 and then some other community colleges to see if there are kids coming back. 377 00:32:51,390 --> 00:32:52,910 So I'm going to have one to request. 378 00:32:54,390 --> 00:32:57,710 And then that starts on James and Steve. 379 00:32:58,970 --> 00:33:05,330 And then we've been working on the Affordable Care Act reporting that was the issue contract, 380 00:33:05,330 --> 00:33:07,590 I said, you know, I was not a person, I'm not much of a person. 381 00:33:08,570 --> 00:33:10,770 So I had this event at 21 reports to them. 382 00:33:11,010 --> 00:33:13,450 And so, I was also admitted and never going to go free 383 00:33:13,450 --> 00:33:17,130 and then there are some fidelity people, 384 00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:19,510 but that was a big, but I'm not going to have that. 385 00:33:20,610 --> 00:33:23,870 And then we, and thank you, Gabe, for your help with. 386 00:33:24,630 --> 00:33:26,050 We had some, we've run some reports 387 00:33:26,050 --> 00:33:28,510 and then we hope to see if that works out. 388 00:33:28,510 --> 00:33:46,970 And then we're working on a military memo policy that will help us putting some sort of protocol in place for one military week and then we have benefits. 389 00:33:46,970 --> 00:33:52,470 We don't have anybody in that church right now, but I'm just going to take a look at the view. 390 00:33:53,910 --> 00:33:59,310 And then we are working with a public health restructure, 391 00:33:59,710 --> 00:34:05,950 when she went on that, and then our state committee meeting is next. 392 00:34:06,830 --> 00:34:12,170 One stay in the 19th and 17th Anniversary of this, and we just passed what we did. 393 00:34:19,490 --> 00:34:25,590 And then the other thing I want to mention is because the OSC advice is, there's an opportunity 394 00:34:25,590 --> 00:34:32,390 for a supervisor training through CIOS and that's where insurance general has a kind 395 00:34:32,390 --> 00:34:33,190 of recharge for them. 396 00:34:33,330 --> 00:34:39,510 So we can actually slide up with this very inexpensive training for $30 and it's 10 to 12 397 00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:48,250 on the 15th, April 15th, and then 4th, they can go to the Dallas and get some of them. 398 00:34:48,510 --> 00:34:49,370 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 399 00:34:49,890 --> 00:34:50,150 Two. 400 00:34:51,210 --> 00:34:52,030 And I'm sorry. 401 00:34:52,490 --> 00:34:57,630 And it's kind of just a bit of an overview of Supervisor, you know. 402 00:34:58,130 --> 00:35:00,410 Realism, laws, and big section of regulation. 403 00:35:00,890 --> 00:35:03,010 It's just two-six Supervisor. 404 00:35:03,510 --> 00:35:06,930 So if you guys have any Supervisor you want to sign up for, 405 00:35:06,930 --> 00:35:15,590 It's a great opportunity to get in the carpool, and I'm kind of in, you know, 406 00:35:15,850 --> 00:35:21,050 compared to about 12 directors, and I try to just figure out how to get back in the 407 00:35:21,050 --> 00:35:25,630 world, and I hit the enrol button the next time you have it immediately, so if I have 408 00:35:25,630 --> 00:35:29,810 a figure out how to get that to everybody, I think we're going to create an account for them, 409 00:35:40,830 --> 00:35:48,470 I'm sorry for my tardiness running real late this morning, I was hoping to be fully 410 00:35:48,470 --> 00:35:59,790 staffed by the end of the day, apparently he declined yesterday afternoon, so back to 411 00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:08,930 Building, excuse me, building some grounds on continuing to Miller Lumber, tear that building 412 00:36:08,930 --> 00:36:14,630 down, get all that debris hauled off, access control we got installed yesterday up 413 00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:15,990 and running at the jail facility. 414 00:36:16,390 --> 00:36:20,990 So next stop, this can be prone probation, we've got the panel plugged in and IT logged on 415 00:36:20,990 --> 00:36:21,390 and everything. 416 00:36:21,770 --> 00:36:28,670 So making progress with access control panels, and then hippie Joe's place, the property 417 00:36:28,670 --> 00:36:37,910 farm property on Birch and Clackamas. There was some garbage debris out there. We got cleaned 418 00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:44,190 up, we ended up hauling some material and blocking off that gate so hopefully we'll limit that 419 00:36:44,190 --> 00:36:51,390 in the future and then be hitting the ground strong with turf grass management. So grass 420 00:36:51,390 --> 00:36:57,450 that's in plugging that stuff so we're starting to roll juniper hills park the grass 421 00:36:57,450 --> 00:37:03,990 up the juniper hills park level out off so turf grass is a grown so yeah time of year 422 00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:05,690 busy season flags 423 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:14,640 yeah they shoot I got that notification tracking number um yes 424 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:19,000 during the day I think the last or last night so yeah they're on their way three flags are on their 425 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,080 for three flat holes are on their way. 426 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,160 We've delivered you so. 427 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:23,540 Easy. 428 00:37:25,980 --> 00:37:26,880 Thank you. 429 00:37:27,820 --> 00:37:28,420 Thank you. 430 00:37:29,340 --> 00:37:31,880 For the cemetery, not the fairgrounds. 431 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,340 Oh, I hear about flat holes and blacks. 432 00:37:36,340 --> 00:37:36,720 All black. 433 00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:37,940 Me too. 434 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:41,740 Thanks, Tony. 435 00:37:43,340 --> 00:37:44,220 No report. 436 00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:45,540 Wow. 437 00:37:46,140 --> 00:37:46,900 Is it the chair? 438 00:37:52,260 --> 00:38:16,100 No, I just, I feel like I'm just really quiet up here. I feel like I should say, but I try and reach out to you guys with questions as I have them throughout the week and so sometimes when I'm here, I feel like all my questions have been answered so I don't have any further questions. Other than be patient. I know, you know, with the VA and everything, you can reach out to the people. 439 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,980 There's a lot of concerns financially right now with a lot of different entities, and 440 00:38:21,980 --> 00:38:23,820 I just have been always cautioning patients. 441 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:29,940 I think that, you know, we have some business people in the White House right now, and they're 442 00:38:29,940 --> 00:38:38,980 just reconstructing their, you know, they're just going in and getting things revamped in 443 00:38:38,980 --> 00:38:39,260 everything. 444 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:44,560 So just patients, I think that when they say that the VA is going to be fixed and better 445 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,180 than what it was, then I trust that it will be, 446 00:38:48,420 --> 00:38:50,540 so I just think that people just need to be cautioned 447 00:38:50,540 --> 00:38:50,940 patients. 448 00:38:53,220 --> 00:38:53,640 That's it. 449 00:38:54,140 --> 00:38:54,520 It's all for me. 450 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:55,720 For sure, it's a link. 451 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,400 I thought we had a good Lindsay. 452 00:39:01,540 --> 00:39:01,820 Good Lindsay. 453 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:03,420 She said no more. 454 00:39:03,420 --> 00:39:04,060 She said no more. 455 00:39:05,860 --> 00:39:06,520 There's your time. 456 00:39:09,780 --> 00:39:13,740 Just a, I probably submitted 10, 9. 457 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:20,700 test loads in the last five, six days as well as one of the things that affect us in terms of the injection. 458 00:39:23,660 --> 00:39:28,840 They did interviews on the regional solutions for our area. 459 00:39:29,380 --> 00:39:32,180 They identified candidates and candidates for most of us know. 460 00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:33,940 I think it's going to be fantastic. 461 00:39:34,820 --> 00:39:36,160 If he picks the job, 462 00:39:42,340 --> 00:39:45,460 he has some individual things to discuss. 463 00:39:49,060 --> 00:39:49,660 Perfect. 464 00:39:49,660 --> 00:39:53,120 Well, thanks for your help with the letters. 465 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:58,500 There is a bunch of bills that could positively or negatively affect the county. 466 00:39:58,700 --> 00:40:01,100 And so I think you probably will have that on my act. 467 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:08,700 And the only thing I wanted to say was we had our meeting about strategic planning for 468 00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:15,500 the county with Sarah, I can't remember her last name, her last name, her last name, and I 469 00:40:15,500 --> 00:40:21,480 I thought that was really productive doing a overarching kind of plan from the county 470 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,500 base, which would pull in a lot of your guys' plans. 471 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:31,940 I know Matt's been working on it with his department, but kind of just getting everything to fit 472 00:40:31,940 --> 00:40:39,260 in somewhat seamlessly and prioritize things and have a good vision for the future for this 473 00:40:39,260 --> 00:40:47,500 county and set some precedence of what's important to our community, which will track 474 00:40:47,500 --> 00:40:56,580 with some of the finances we do have and the limited about that. 475 00:40:56,940 --> 00:41:03,640 So that process has been started and we'll keep going through that and bring more of you 476 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:18,860 and at a more in-depth level, here shortly, without the other thing is Crooked River Ranch tonight, I think Sheriff's gonna be there, what are you planning on going? 477 00:41:23,540 --> 00:41:33,300 I think Matt's playing on going Tony is playing on going so I think do we have some discussion 478 00:41:33,300 --> 00:41:52,020 later on of topics. Yeah okay well okay well okay well okay we'll thank you for coming 479 00:41:52,020 --> 00:41:58,390 tonight I know they're important topics so that community so yeah so 480 00:42:04,550 --> 00:42:08,930 I think we were required to send a notice on the set of five people, 481 00:42:09,330 --> 00:42:12,850 certainly the five participants in the process about the subdivision. 482 00:42:13,530 --> 00:42:16,990 We just sent them to the high court to make sure that we have the question. 483 00:42:17,250 --> 00:42:17,890 It's okay to share. 484 00:42:18,450 --> 00:42:20,670 The rest is actually back at the base of our budget. 485 00:42:26,380 --> 00:42:26,820 Okay. 486 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:28,280 It was just been fun. 487 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:29,080 I got to say. 488 00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:29,960 How's it? 489 00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:30,220 Yeah. 490 00:42:30,540 --> 00:42:32,260 No, I didn't share a game with you last year. 491 00:42:33,220 --> 00:42:33,980 It's been awesome. 492 00:42:47,780 --> 00:42:52,440 Okay, good morning. 493 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,660 Welcome back from our administrative session. If I could have everyone 494 00:43:07,660 --> 00:43:09,620 Please stand for the pleasure of allegiance 495 00:43:15,060 --> 00:43:28,060 to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God and indivisible with liberty and justice. 496 00:43:30,420 --> 00:43:31,160 Good morning, dear. 497 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,820 Did you join me in front of this morning? 498 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,040 Dear Heavenly Father, we just want to thank you for your provision, for all the things 499 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:44,020 that we do in this land, and God we ask for the people that you would bring peace and unity 500 00:43:44,660 --> 00:43:49,480 of the people of our land, and God that you would give us the opportunity to prosper in this land. 501 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:54,440 And so Lord, our county leaders are making decisions on our behalf. 502 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:59,780 I pray that you would give them wisdom and God you would also give them favor once they've made those decisions 503 00:43:59,780 --> 00:44:05,720 So thank you for everything. Thank you for all these people being here to represent. And Jesus name we pray. Amen. 504 00:44:13,340 --> 00:44:16,420 Okay, so we are going to get started with 505 00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:20,900 public comment and it looks like we got quite a few people in the room 506 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:27,540 So if we can keep everything to three minutes if there's any reason why you need more than that 507 00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:35,740 please let me know let's try and keep things the three minutes with all the 508 00:44:35,740 --> 00:44:41,440 people about me want a doc so who is first no 509 00:44:44,230 --> 00:44:47,230 one online come 510 00:44:53,310 --> 00:44:54,310 on come on 511 00:44:54,310 --> 00:44:59,970 we can I I'm aware of the historical society so I'll give you three 512 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,220 Three minutes and five seconds. 513 00:45:09,220 --> 00:45:24,900 We're coming so we'll definitely give you a little bit more time. I think we've been working on some of this for a while. I'm going to appreciate you guys coming and kind of giving us an update on where you're at. Ready. 514 00:45:47,340 --> 00:45:51,820 Do we go? Yeah. Go ahead. Please state your name for the record. Please. My name is Tony Ahern. 515 00:45:51,820 --> 00:45:55,380 in representing the Jefferson County Historical Society. 516 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,000 My name is Tom Matting, also with the Historical Society. 517 00:46:01,300 --> 00:46:04,560 And we were here a couple months ago back in December, 518 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,980 regarding the potential of the county, 519 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,640 potentially partnering with us to establish a museum 520 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,780 at the historic Methodist Church in Madders. 521 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,700 We brought the idea before the board back in December 522 00:46:19,700 --> 00:46:25,940 as we had a closing date, because we have made an offer to purchase that church building. 523 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:34,260 So we had to kind of rush it to get here before you, because we don't feel we can move forward without partnership with the county. 524 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:40,360 And since that December meeting, we've had the building thoroughly inspected. 525 00:46:41,300 --> 00:46:44,700 And I have some local contractors come in to give us assessments. 526 00:46:44,700 --> 00:46:51,400 and we've come away even more committed to the idea that the building would make an excellent local museum. 527 00:46:52,900 --> 00:47:00,880 Another revolution we've had since we've talked to you is that as an organization we've decided we wanted to move very frugally with it 528 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:08,320 and kind of do our remodel in phases and with phase one being things we needed to do just to get open. 529 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:14,420 and you know some of the basics and we were also asked by the commissioners 530 00:47:14,420 --> 00:47:19,600 back in December for information about what other counties comparable in size 531 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:26,940 and population in their rural settings and what those counties do for 532 00:47:26,940 --> 00:47:33,100 local museums and we've come up with a report on that that we've had and it's in 533 00:47:33,100 --> 00:47:36,700 packet as well. And so that brings us to today. 534 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,060 We've also, after December, Commissioner 535 00:47:42,060 --> 00:47:47,860 Wunch volunteered or was assigned to work with us and he's met with us a couple of times 536 00:47:47,860 --> 00:47:54,660 and he's kind of helped keep us on track, certainly hasn't made any commitments at all for you guys, 537 00:47:54,660 --> 00:48:02,020 unfortunately. But I know my place. Yeah, he's been very helpful and has helped keep us 538 00:48:02,020 --> 00:48:05,100 It's on track and we've come up with this presentation. 539 00:48:05,860 --> 00:48:15,260 It hasn't changed much from December, but anyway, we hope that we can go over it a little 540 00:48:15,260 --> 00:48:15,520 bit. 541 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:23,520 Again, we're hoping for it's a 6,000 square foot building. 542 00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:30,160 We're looking to remodel just the upstairs, it's a two story building, the first phase 543 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:30,920 to get going. 544 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,700 We're targeting the upstairs. 545 00:48:36,780 --> 00:48:41,940 And our current contract hasn't changed, except for the extension date. 546 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:49,940 And it's for $300,000, $200,000 at closing plus $100,000 within the next two years. 547 00:48:53,420 --> 00:49:05,800 And what we're hoping to do, we have kind of a budgeted target of 300,000 to 325 for first phase remodeling. 548 00:49:06,660 --> 00:49:09,320 So try to hustle through this. 549 00:49:11,150 --> 00:49:17,880 So basically on page two, skip to what we're here for is the request to the county. 550 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:23,180 What we're hoping for is one time $400,000 commitment. 551 00:49:23,780 --> 00:49:27,880 $200,000 would be towards the purchase of the building, and 552 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,020 another $200,000 would be a kickstart to our remodel fund. 553 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:39,100 And the historical society, we're happy and eager to contribute $100,000. 554 00:49:40,620 --> 00:49:44,020 We love to be able to do all of it, but that's what we can afford. 555 00:49:44,020 --> 00:49:55,500 and we are eager to put in $100,000 to the purchasing fund and along with that what we are hoping 556 00:49:55,500 --> 00:50:04,480 for is the county's commitment for $100,000 annually for a period of time, first ability or 557 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:12,760 sustainability I should say for an annual commitment to help us with staffing and other expenses. 558 00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:23,150 But, you know, one thing I think, and if the county could commit to $200,000 to the purchase, 559 00:50:23,490 --> 00:50:31,830 if they could do another $200,000 for the remodel, and if they could commit to that $100,000 a year sustainability, 560 00:50:33,190 --> 00:50:40,950 over six years that would be a $1,000,000 commitment to our local museum, to local history, and our culture. 561 00:50:42,810 --> 00:50:47,590 and that would help us immensely on getting grants 562 00:50:47,590 --> 00:50:50,970 because grants is going to be the other foundation that we have. 563 00:50:52,370 --> 00:50:56,690 And, you know, every grant provider requires local buy-in 564 00:50:56,690 --> 00:50:59,290 and that would just be, that would be it for us. 565 00:50:59,870 --> 00:51:02,630 If you guys doing that, you know, we could move forward very strong. 566 00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:15,870 Obviously, we haven't opened yet, but we do have budget estimates and we're looking 567 00:51:15,870 --> 00:51:25,110 at, you know, frugally, a $200,000, $205,000 revenue streams for the year, and see annual 568 00:51:25,110 --> 00:51:27,930 expenses eats that almost up. 569 00:51:27,930 --> 00:51:40,010 So, and of course, obviously, these are just projections, you know, a year away or so from opening, but you can see that the county is $100,000 commitment is vital to us. 570 00:51:42,530 --> 00:51:50,650 You know, grant programs, we target, there's a lot of local grants being foundation, roundhouse is based out of sisters. 571 00:51:51,830 --> 00:51:55,310 We will be going out for these people. 572 00:51:55,450 --> 00:51:57,170 They'd be a constant effort for us. 573 00:51:57,910 --> 00:52:02,210 What we depend on at $100,000 from the county, 574 00:52:02,990 --> 00:52:08,210 or some kind of structure to where the county helps us pay for a director. 575 00:52:08,730 --> 00:52:12,830 And that director would be spending a lot of his or her time looking for grants. 576 00:52:13,830 --> 00:52:16,710 And keeping us financially strong. 577 00:52:19,150 --> 00:52:24,530 The other, you know, ideas we have moving forward financially is work hard with local 578 00:52:24,530 --> 00:52:31,590 corporations and businesses, but, you know, we're confident that we could move forward 579 00:52:31,590 --> 00:52:32,090 with this. 580 00:52:32,430 --> 00:52:36,010 One thing we think it's important, too, is our organization. 581 00:52:36,630 --> 00:52:43,410 The Historical Society has been around for 50 years, and we had a museum back in the 70, 582 00:52:43,410 --> 00:52:51,170 the 1970s, the 1990s, and had to close when it was at the old courthouse due to structural 583 00:52:51,170 --> 00:52:58,710 issues. And since then, there's been at least three major efforts to bring another 584 00:52:58,710 --> 00:53:05,490 museum in the town, and they've all kind of fell apart without really, through any 585 00:53:05,490 --> 00:53:11,470 fall to the historical society. I'm not sure there's very few historical societies 586 00:53:11,470 --> 00:53:16,870 in the state of Oregon that can financially handle their own museum. 587 00:53:17,110 --> 00:53:21,470 They all need help locally and to do like usually the counties. 588 00:53:24,850 --> 00:53:29,290 So we're certainly not a fly-by-night organization that's asking for your help. 589 00:53:29,350 --> 00:53:30,670 We've been around for a long time. 590 00:53:31,090 --> 00:53:41,240 We have the equipment or the exhibits ready to go, so we think we'll be a good partner. 591 00:53:42,380 --> 00:53:48,380 In the last part of the presentations and trying to speed through this, I might make three minutes. 592 00:53:50,460 --> 00:53:56,960 I think you're passed, but we're going to give you the last couple of pages is our report of all the counties. 593 00:53:57,380 --> 00:54:06,380 I think we have about 11 or 12 of them here that have the various ways, the different counties that are comparable to Jefferson. 594 00:54:06,380 --> 00:54:11,380 and contribute and partner with their four 595 00:54:11,380 --> 00:54:12,740 of their local museum operations. 596 00:54:14,860 --> 00:54:16,340 It's pretty impressive. 597 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,580 Basically every county is involved. 598 00:54:21,340 --> 00:54:25,580 I think right now Jefferson County gives us $10,000 a year 599 00:54:26,380 --> 00:54:28,760 which is appreciated. 600 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,420 I believe at one point when we were looking at opening a museum 601 00:54:33,420 --> 00:54:40,440 West Side, the budget line item got kicked up to 30 and but only if we had a museum 602 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:47,800 top. So we're hoping we can go from 30 to 100 and we think that lines up well 603 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:52,000 with these other counties. You know, we think we're a healthier county. We have 604 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,540 more tourists than a lot of these counties. 605 00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,520 So yeah, there we are. Is any questions 606 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,340 Is there anything you guys want to throw in us? 607 00:55:03,220 --> 00:55:08,120 Yeah, so just a little bit, I, to my fellow commissioners, 608 00:55:08,220 --> 00:55:10,800 wanted to bring the Historical Society, kind of just to get 609 00:55:11,650 --> 00:55:15,980 updated where they're at, mainly after the building inspection 610 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,360 and the meeting with the contractor, just to see where this 611 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:24,320 building lies, as far as structural and all that. 612 00:55:24,780 --> 00:55:27,700 And I spoke with the contractor one-on-one. 613 00:55:27,700 --> 00:55:32,040 and thought the bones were really good of that building. 614 00:55:32,620 --> 00:55:35,180 There is some work that needs to be done, 615 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,160 but there's not a huge issue. 616 00:55:40,420 --> 00:55:42,700 The local contractor also mentioned, 617 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,960 I think something that intrigues this group 618 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,800 is the history of the building itself, 619 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,600 and how fitting that is. 620 00:55:52,780 --> 00:55:57,420 So yeah, mainly I just wanted the group to update you 621 00:55:57,420 --> 00:56:03,840 kind of bring you up to speed with some of the conversation. It is a big 622 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:12,720 ask financially and that's what I told the group and that's a lot for the 623 00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:20,060 county to take on but I think there's conversations of where we want to be as a 624 00:56:20,060 --> 00:56:25,660 county to help because you are a great organization and I think we are probably 625 00:56:25,660 --> 00:56:31,320 one of the only counties that doesn't have any kind of museum in today's 626 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:40,660 society history sometimes just falls off and it's an important piece to value 627 00:56:40,660 --> 00:56:46,280 where we've been as a society and remember that and in some of the 628 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:52,100 education whether it's with the schools or tourists it's a valuable piece and we 629 00:56:52,100 --> 00:56:58,940 do have a rich history in this county and at what level can we help I I don't 630 00:56:58,940 --> 00:57:05,040 know but appreciate the update and would like to work towards some kind of 631 00:57:07,260 --> 00:57:13,040 process to kind of help keep things going and especially with the direction of 632 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:21,840 these two but more if you guys had any questions of specifics of funding what 633 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:28,400 their vision is, I kind of wanted to open it up to you guys to direct anything to them. 634 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:34,720 If you want to have them do any research or work or whatnot. 635 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:41,680 So my question is, and my concern is, is I know that you guys are set on this building, 636 00:57:42,540 --> 00:57:51,520 but dumping $500,000 into renovating this building, I'm looking at the 637 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,980 Fairgrounds has two historical buildings on site. 638 00:57:55,900 --> 00:58:05,160 Is there a benefit to pursuing grants and to building a new facility in that area where the public already is familiar with? 639 00:58:05,340 --> 00:58:15,420 And people already go, especially as the fairgrounds complex is doing more outreach and having more venues throughout the year. 640 00:58:16,060 --> 00:58:21,960 Is that not a better location to build a building that can be more visible in the public? 641 00:58:22,580 --> 00:58:29,040 The fact we went down that road for about a year working with Fairboard and it was a good 642 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:29,660 relationship. 643 00:58:30,260 --> 00:58:37,960 We talked about doing a joint structure like an advanced center on one side in our museum 644 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:38,560 on the other. 645 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:44,600 But I gosh, I was thinking that was going to be $4 million, you know, with $3.5, $5 million. 646 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:49,040 dollars. And, you know, when you talk about building a brand new building, everything 647 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:57,440 that would have to go in to that. So, you know, when you think about those kind of dollars 648 00:58:57,980 --> 00:59:05,620 versus $500,000, you know, again, that's what we want to be for, but we want to do things 649 00:59:05,620 --> 00:59:12,320 that we can afford. Yeah, there are pluses and minuses about being at the fairgrounds. 650 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:30,980 Is there, maybe you guys looked into getting any partners like, say, reaching out to Warm Springs and seeing if a portion of the building can be utilized to display Warm Springs and there could be some funding opportunities from them as well to contribute? 651 00:59:30,980 --> 00:59:37,500 At this point, we haven't looked at anybody for interior museum operations since 652 00:59:37,500 --> 00:59:42,500 we don't have one yet. That's the kind of thing, though, that as soon as we 653 00:59:42,500 --> 00:59:48,160 have the building secured in a hard plan, that's when we go hard at partners. 654 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:56,980 And partners are going to want to see what we've done, what's behind this at this 655 00:59:56,980 --> 00:59:59,960 as well. I'd like to just... 656 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,540 Kind of echo some of the things that Commissioner once said. You know, museums are important. They tell us who we were. They tell us who we are. And it also is a community a sense of where we're headed. It's, I'd say it's as important an organ to the community as schools and libraries or the stores downtown in terms of. 657 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,120 letting people, you know, take pride in their community. 658 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:41,040 And so I really, you know, I just like to see us move forward. 659 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:44,700 And again, you know, the big part of moving forward is 660 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:49,600 showing to, I mean, we are part of the Oregon Cultural Trust. 661 01:00:49,860 --> 01:00:52,940 The museum already is connected with it. 662 01:00:54,100 --> 01:00:57,860 But in order to get some return from those organizations, 663 01:00:57,860 --> 01:01:03,980 They really need to see what, you know, how is the rest of the community standing behind us? 664 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:12,200 And I think that shows up in some of these other counties, how they are funded. 665 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,880 They get, they all say they get grants, but a lot of it, you know, 666 01:01:16,940 --> 01:01:22,000 the basis for that is showing that they have local community support from governmental agencies. 667 01:01:23,460 --> 01:01:31,810 So basically what I'm getting down here is you're asking the county for 1.4 million over the course of six years. 668 01:01:32,590 --> 01:01:36,790 400,000 now and then a million or six years. 669 01:01:38,350 --> 01:01:49,810 For now, well, two towards the purchase of the building, two towards the kickstart are remodeling, so that's four total. 670 01:01:49,810 --> 01:01:58,870 And then what I mentioned and then a hundred thousand a year for sustainability and what I said is if it was if you'd committed for six years 671 01:01:58,870 --> 01:02:08,470 That would be a million total oh million over six years got you got you six years. Okay, I know just on a lot of these other counties 672 01:02:10,210 --> 01:02:15,230 They have bonds that are helping to fund it also to our tea funds 673 01:02:15,230 --> 01:02:23,710 If you guys thought about going out for a bond at all, my biggest concern is it's a lot 674 01:02:23,710 --> 01:02:29,250 to ask financially and I would love to know where our constituents are on this issue. 675 01:02:29,770 --> 01:02:35,310 You know, when you're talking about, you know, over the next six years, the tap of an 676 01:02:35,310 --> 01:02:45,170 officer's position is this, is this at a level right now when we are trying to fund 677 01:02:45,170 --> 01:02:50,270 staff at various levels in the county. Is this something that our community wants now or in five 678 01:02:50,270 --> 01:03:00,310 years? I'd really like to be able to see where our constituents are on this. But once again, 679 01:03:00,390 --> 01:03:06,990 I'm bringing it back to a bond. I know there's some significant numbers here in some of these 680 01:03:06,990 --> 01:03:10,890 other counties that are funded through bonds. Is that something that you guys have thought about? 681 01:03:10,890 --> 01:03:25,810 Absolutely. I would say the plan, the loose plan, is to open, establish a good museum, and then go ask the county what do you think of us do you want us to keep us here or not? 682 01:03:26,630 --> 01:03:32,210 But I think if we have nothing to show them, then that would be a hard vote. 683 01:03:34,370 --> 01:03:40,750 I, you know, my guess is, although, like, Crick County, I would assume the plan was, they 684 01:03:40,750 --> 01:03:45,050 were all established before they got the local support for a bond. 685 01:03:45,470 --> 01:03:51,390 But that's definitely what we would, our goal and our hope, would be to establish a bond. 686 01:03:51,830 --> 01:04:00,590 And so, a commitment of $100,000 a year for the next six years, and then also the building, 687 01:04:01,190 --> 01:04:06,990 being that it's an old structure, and there's going to be continued maintenance on it. 688 01:04:07,110 --> 01:04:10,790 Is that something that the county would be financially obligated for, or is that? 689 01:04:11,410 --> 01:04:17,290 I would think we've talked about this, if the county wanted to buy it, then the county would maintain it. 690 01:04:17,450 --> 01:04:22,110 But our take is if you just help us buy it, then that's on us. 691 01:04:23,210 --> 01:04:28,850 But that's another negotiation thing, like maybe say, who knows? 692 01:04:28,850 --> 01:04:36,630 But I mean like if the county would say we'll give you say 75,000 a year, but we will maintain your building or whatever 693 01:04:36,630 --> 01:04:38,450 You know if you if you guys 694 01:04:39,170 --> 01:04:43,190 Side you want to go forward to us then we can kind of work out the details 695 01:04:43,190 --> 01:04:48,310 Okay, and then also on staff and you know helping you $100,000 a year 696 01:04:51,090 --> 01:04:51,550 and 697 01:04:51,550 --> 01:04:55,810 And, you know, 189,000, what is 120 698 01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:59,620 ,000 for staffing? 699 01:05:00,780 --> 01:05:04,420 If these grants don't go through or a bond, 700 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,160 it doesn't go through in six years, 701 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,180 are we gonna be asked to continue this? 702 01:05:09,260 --> 01:05:11,600 100,000, I mean, is it gonna be a perpetuity? 703 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:16,760 Is it gonna be, I'm just, my mind's just going that route. 704 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:18,640 Yeah, well, you know, that's hard to predict. 705 01:05:18,820 --> 01:05:22,760 You guys may, we may be so awesome to get ahead. 706 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:28,700 Okay, let's give you 200,000 a year, or we may have a really poor museum, so we're done. 707 01:05:29,500 --> 01:05:34,120 We would gamble on ourselves to say that you would be happy with this, but it's hard 708 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:34,920 to say in six years. 709 01:05:35,420 --> 01:05:37,880 Hopefully, we'd have a bond that you guys could step away from. 710 01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:48,760 Just curious on the lease that we have, we're on fifth, third, or whatever, how long is 711 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:48,880 that? 712 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:49,820 How long is that lease? 713 01:05:50,300 --> 01:05:51,200 I don't know, Loddy. 714 01:05:55,680 --> 01:06:00,020 What is your timeline on your offer? 715 01:06:01,340 --> 01:06:01,920 Great question. 716 01:06:02,660 --> 01:06:05,320 Mr. Simmelink, that is the end of April. 717 01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:11,680 So we hope to have a decision or an plan moving forward by then. 718 01:06:11,980 --> 01:06:13,560 Because we've already asked for one extension. 719 01:06:22,980 --> 01:06:28,120 What kind of a building were you guys looking at when it was $3.5 to $5 million? 720 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:32,680 dollars. We were just working with the fair board and we were talking steel building. 721 01:06:35,540 --> 01:06:43,160 Yeah. He should have decided. Yeah. It wasn't a Taj Mahal building. No, but but but quite large. 722 01:06:43,420 --> 01:06:50,560 You know, it's, you know, because the fair board wanted a large exhibition in an event center 723 01:06:51,460 --> 01:06:57,940 and we were, you know, this one is about six thousand five hundred square feet with the two floor 724 01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:04,780 And out there, I think we were talking like 4,000, we needed at least a couple of so 725 01:07:06,860 --> 01:07:08,020 large structures. 726 01:07:09,620 --> 01:07:20,060 You know you have a great question about the historical buildings out there, the home and the school. 727 01:07:20,820 --> 01:07:28,780 And there's a lot of historical societies that have things within their counties that they protect and are harder. 728 01:07:28,780 --> 01:07:35,180 And certainly, we wouldn't lose sight of those places because those have been a big 729 01:07:35,180 --> 01:07:38,200 part of the historical society since they were put out there. 730 01:07:38,340 --> 01:07:41,220 I know the house was dropped in the 1970s, I think. 731 01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,800 So we will continue to keep good care of those. 732 01:07:46,180 --> 01:07:48,920 And we're always out there during the fair to give tours. 733 01:07:49,580 --> 01:07:50,980 And I love that. 734 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:52,400 Still a showcase piece for us. 735 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:53,960 I've been on multiple tours out there. 736 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:54,920 I love those old buildings. 737 01:07:54,920 --> 01:08:21,360 But that's a big, I guess, concern or just point of interest for me is, you know, if you're going to have, potentially 20, 25,000 people throughout the year visiting that area versus, I mean, how many people in our community even know where this building is located. 738 01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:28,780 So other than if you know the history of it, I think there's more people that come down 739 01:08:28,780 --> 01:08:35,260 fifth street and go on fairgrounds and our plan is to maybe put a big sign up on the 740 01:08:35,260 --> 01:08:38,600 odd fellows building and say, hey, three blocks down, it's your county museum. 741 01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:40,960 So we think it'll be very visible. 742 01:08:41,460 --> 01:08:47,100 It's an iconic building that's in pretty much every old photo of Madras back in. 743 01:08:47,100 --> 01:08:53,520 And I think another thing you brought up, and it's a good point, but if we buy that building 744 01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:59,620 for $300,000, that's probably a good buck, even if we bail out of it and move into a 745 01:08:59,620 --> 01:09:02,060 museum that somebody builds force at the fairground. 746 01:09:02,900 --> 01:09:08,620 It's $300,000, and a half a city block. 747 01:09:09,980 --> 01:09:20,420 So, you know, I think it makes good sense just as a purchase that alone saving the most 748 01:09:20,420 --> 01:09:21,740 iconic building in town. 749 01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:32,720 What's going to say to me the museum is Jefferson County Museum is not just that building 750 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:43,820 for the buildings of the Fairfield. It's the agon. It's the threshing bee. I mean, it's 751 01:09:43,820 --> 01:09:51,740 all those of them. It's a living organ. And this is just a way to help sustain them. So that's 752 01:09:51,740 --> 01:09:54,260 why we need to have this forward. Yeah. Yeah. 753 01:09:58,110 --> 01:10:02,370 But what do you guys, what would you suggest as a move forward 754 01:10:02,370 --> 01:10:06,370 or a timeline, or what we expect. 755 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:11,960 I'm going to need to noodle on it a little bit. 756 01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,660 I mean, obviously, you gave us some things that we asked for. 757 01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:16,700 I think that's fantastic. 758 01:10:17,700 --> 01:10:21,180 I'm a little privy to where we stand with budget right now, 759 01:10:21,180 --> 01:10:22,460 and it's not pretty. 760 01:10:23,380 --> 01:10:28,500 Of course, we haven't gotten to any kind of conclusion 761 01:10:28,500 --> 01:10:30,800 on anything, but this is an essence 762 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,020 of creating a completely new department. 763 01:10:33,020 --> 01:10:40,400 me. You know, I'm not, you know, I'm not necessarily paying member, updated paying member, 764 01:10:40,540 --> 01:10:46,820 but I consistently am a member at points and times during the year. So I'd have to 765 01:10:46,820 --> 01:10:54,460 abstain, I guess, I guess I have to abstain. But you know, like I said, I think if your timeline 766 01:10:54,460 --> 01:11:00,780 is towards the end of April, it gives us a little bit of a runway to keep it kind of top 767 01:11:00,780 --> 01:11:05,100 a mind here and have some conversations. I know I can reach out to each, I know everybody 768 01:11:05,100 --> 01:11:10,780 in this room to be able to talk through what things I'm thinking, et cetera. 769 01:11:12,900 --> 01:11:13,480 I haven't 770 01:11:13,480 --> 01:11:17,240 done my diligence as far as contacting other commissioners and other counties, you know, 771 01:11:17,300 --> 01:11:22,860 Gany and Critt, for instance, climate would be a good one to go to as well as see how they 772 01:11:22,860 --> 01:11:30,860 kind of do things. Have we offered the grant services, you know, we offered global grants 773 01:11:30,860 --> 01:11:38,980 to look into anything on their behalf or do we know of anything that's out there that 774 01:11:38,980 --> 01:11:46,900 we could conceivably get our hands on if we suck, you know, stuck, stuck global grants 775 01:11:46,900 --> 01:11:47,920 on them. 776 01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:31,020 Is it outside the purview of CBG grants, is this kind of a project outside of a community 777 01:12:31,020 --> 01:12:31,600 block grant? 778 01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:39,240 And so we looked in and out when we were looking at the Fairgrounds community development 779 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:43,100 block grants provide a lot of things but they will not build the museum. 780 01:12:44,020 --> 01:12:44,860 Not by a little thing. 781 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:46,880 We're not building one. 782 01:12:49,940 --> 01:12:52,940 Fairgrounds, let's don't call it a museum, let's call it something else. 783 01:12:53,720 --> 01:13:00,480 community space. But we did look into that. But the other thing with grants, you know, 784 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:05,980 we're real confident, like the Roundhouse Foundation, even the Bing Foundation, we think 785 01:13:05,980 --> 01:13:11,400 we can really hit the ground running. And, you know, as a historical society, I think 786 01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:16,520 that opens the door for us to get a lot of grants. You know, we're not all professional 787 01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,380 grant writers, and I'm sure we could use that. 788 01:13:18,380 --> 01:13:22,920 Yeah, I know I think I think that's a that's a huge tool that we've in the city 789 01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:28,480 You know, and this is a kind of a joint. Yeah, and if you're gonna be asking them for money as well 790 01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:33,140 This is a by the way. Have you have you had council with them yet? 791 01:13:33,780 --> 01:13:35,980 You guys are it only one of them so far 792 01:13:39,580 --> 01:13:41,600 No, that would be in the future, okay 793 01:13:42,780 --> 01:13:48,060 And yeah, but we think it would be a really excellent addition to the city of Madras too 794 01:13:48,380 --> 01:13:54,090 So yeah, we go to the city to seek their support. 795 01:13:54,870 --> 01:13:58,030 Well, I think I'll tell you where I stand right now at this moment. 796 01:13:58,190 --> 01:14:03,650 I'd kind of like to visit with some of you individually and, you know, Mark, you continue 797 01:14:03,650 --> 01:14:04,250 your work. 798 01:14:04,510 --> 01:14:06,130 You can be in this pretty well. 799 01:14:06,210 --> 01:14:14,520 I'm very appreciative of that and knowing what our deadline is is important. 800 01:14:16,220 --> 01:14:19,860 So stop being non-committal or committal. 801 01:14:19,860 --> 01:14:25,880 Well, I would throw out an I shouldn't maybe talk out of time, but we have $100,000 ready. 802 01:14:26,420 --> 01:14:33,340 So if you get to the budget in time and you want to say, well, we'll do 100 now and 803 01:14:33,340 --> 01:14:35,960 then save that your second 100 for two years down the road. 804 01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:44,140 Because it's 200 now, yeah, 100 in 24 months, so potentially we can move forward on it. 805 01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:44,940 We're trying not to. 806 01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:48,640 We're trying to save what we have in order so we can invest in the remodel. 807 01:14:49,540 --> 01:14:54,880 I think it would be, I think it would be, I think we would lend credence to even having 808 01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:59,980 those conversations with being, you know, say, hey, we're, we've 809 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:18,520 If you feel it's important, you feel it's important to show your skin, you know, and some of those things. And like I said, I think the other thing is we try to getting the building captured. I don't think that's the problem. I really don't. I think it's the sustainability of it into the future. 810 01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:26,180 You know, you got your one third of the way there with what's already in the budget that thanks to Commissioner Ayer in back in the day. 811 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:39,980 So, like I said, I'm not kicking the can, but let's get serious about having conversations and you continue the work that you've been doing and it was loop forward. 812 01:15:39,980 --> 01:15:46,380 Yeah, no, and that's part of the reason why I wanted to bring them here today was to to refresh this conversation 813 01:15:46,380 --> 01:15:53,560 Knowing that the end of April is kind of a deadline for purchase of the property and and give them feedback of 814 01:15:54,120 --> 01:16:01,880 What they need to do in the meantime and then I was planning to invite them back with more more information 815 01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:09,660 Direction from you guys once or twice and see where we can get to before the end of April was my thought process time wise 816 01:16:09,660 --> 01:16:18,060 That's why. Who's the property over there? Link? It's Link the group that's behind you. 817 01:16:19,020 --> 01:16:28,320 Very, very familiar. Thank you. Any more questions or directions or you guys want to reach out to them individually? 818 01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:36,460 Yeah, I think that I'll be reaching out and I'm going to be reaching out some others 819 01:16:36,460 --> 01:16:40,740 to see kind of what are options. 820 01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:42,240 I know that I'm coming late into the game. 821 01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,920 You guys have been talking about this for a while apparently, so I'm trying to get caught 822 01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:46,200 up. 823 01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:49,720 So it's one of those things, right? 824 01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:54,640 You know, my mind's always going 100 miles an hour and I'm sure that 90% of the stuff 825 01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:56,740 that's popping into my mind you guys have already hit and covered. 826 01:16:56,740 --> 01:17:05,760 So just want to all right, but thank you for coming here today you have a before you had do you have a scheduled meeting 827 01:17:13,260 --> 01:17:19,760 Why did did you want to come and go I just thought hey would be great capture all in the same same ring 828 01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:26,020 Okay, I know where to get hold of him. I know where to find you. I know where to find you and you 829 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:38,680 So, yeah, I think direction is maybe reach out to some private people at some level. 830 01:17:38,780 --> 01:17:46,600 The county is interested and you reach out to some private partners and I think you 831 01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:51,420 can definitely say we're interested in helping you at some level and see what the buy-in 832 01:17:51,420 --> 01:17:57,840 is from some of them, so the more we can get certain partners, at least a warm buy-in 833 01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:03,460 and wanting to help, I think it helps make things stronger as a whole. 834 01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:09,380 So, thank you. So, these three minutes were like, for the long run. 835 01:18:11,060 --> 01:18:16,560 And then, yeah, Jeff, can you connect them with global grants, 836 01:18:24,220 --> 01:18:25,180 opportunities? 837 01:18:25,180 --> 01:18:25,440 these. 838 01:18:37,250 --> 01:18:38,990 It's too late to ask some capital to request. 839 01:18:45,620 --> 01:18:48,840 Yeah. Thank you very much. Thank you, 840 01:18:48,980 --> 01:18:52,020 guys. Thanks. Okay. 841 01:18:54,780 --> 01:19:01,000 Good morning. Good morning. May or do you name for the name for the 842 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:29,300 record please but anyway I we submitted a letter to Jeff in the city to help a 843 01:19:29,300 --> 01:19:35,900 grant, death wasn't here, I gave it the game and he said that's perhaps needs to go 844 01:19:35,900 --> 01:19:44,040 before the commissioners were trying to get assistance that have the county, the 845 01:19:45,180 --> 01:19:54,740 Ryan, the county sheriff's office to write us a grant for a generator, pursue a 846 01:19:54,740 --> 01:20:02,420 grant for a generator. So we're going to, in the toll list, we want to put in, have a mobile 847 01:20:02,420 --> 01:20:09,720 generator with transfer switches in our facility. The Department of Energy just recently came out 848 01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:19,120 and said that for 70% likelihood there'll be more ground out. So that is one of the things regarding 849 01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:25,100 the city of Matholias. And then regarding the VWO and the 850 01:20:25,100 --> 01:20:31,200 fly bowl, or vice commander, and commander of the letter to you, 851 01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:36,280 we've got time, we'll forget the Memorial Day thing. 852 01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,860 We'd rather do it right. We'll do it once. 853 01:20:40,380 --> 01:20:49,100 And then the VW is attempting to mend our differences with the 854 01:20:49,100 --> 01:21:01,120 moving positively. And we are pleased that the Redmond Community Center has got a grant 855 01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:09,400 from St. Charles that everyone has helped with the Community Center. The overall thing 856 01:21:10,460 --> 01:21:21,280 I just submitted for a grant for $6,500 to improve the office situation at the senior 857 01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:25,940 center and that has installed a few other items. 858 01:21:27,550 --> 01:21:35,620 We met with the fairer board and that went positive, we asked them to consider replacing 859 01:21:35,620 --> 01:21:47,360 including the flag bulls and also allowing us that the W to have a permanent spot inside 860 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:59,300 the fairgrounds during the fair perpetuity throughout for us, and then let's see. 861 01:21:59,300 --> 01:22:08,880 So, take a look at the flagpole issue at the cemetery, we get time, we do what I do 862 01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:09,320 much. 863 01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:17,140 And then, regarding the museum, I'm actually an advocate of the museum as a part of the 864 01:22:18,580 --> 01:22:25,880 fairgrounds because of the continuity of operations and stuff, like a whole lot of kitchen 865 01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:44,030 So I had a question on your generators and your one generator multiple transfer switches, correct? 866 01:22:44,510 --> 01:22:49,810 So what would this generator be powering the entire city? 867 01:22:49,810 --> 01:23:01,310 the portions public works department, the city hall and the depot separately because we 868 01:23:01,310 --> 01:23:07,610 can't afford three generators, you guys got your big generators, with those 100 kilowatt 869 01:23:07,610 --> 01:23:08,430 or something, 870 01:23:12,620 --> 01:23:23,880 somebody, somebody, but then we got two big generators, we don't need 871 01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:31,340 And we're going to incorporate our own welder with that trailer so we can weld on the movie. 872 01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:33,260 All right. 873 01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:37,460 Have you talked to Skidjula at all about the generators at all? 874 01:23:38,180 --> 01:23:38,640 Right. 875 01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:39,500 Frames Kidjula. 876 01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:39,860 Yeah. 877 01:23:40,380 --> 01:23:44,080 Well, we have just a conversation. 878 01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:46,420 Just a quick shot. 879 01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,320 We can't do it because of you alone. 880 01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:57,900 We have to have counsel to write it and give them the letter from the city, but I have 881 01:23:57,900 --> 01:24:06,240 talked about, you know, your generators that you just prepared, so that sounds really 882 01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:06,460 positive. 883 01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:13,000 I'm a big advocate for military guys and community operations, that's why I think, I actually 884 01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:18,960 think the fairgrounds, the museum, the library should look at that whole thing. 885 01:24:28,690 --> 01:24:32,570 Is this the work that you've done with them? 886 01:24:33,410 --> 01:24:40,650 This is what I asked them to present us with something official with, and then my plan 887 01:24:40,650 --> 01:24:50,310 is, I talked to Tony about this, so my plan is that Tony and I will go up there and take 888 01:24:50,310 --> 01:25:00,290 to look and then he'll give me his good bad nuggles and then hopefully either myself 889 01:25:00,290 --> 01:25:05,490 or all of us some representatives from the VFW and Tony can go over and find a middle ground. 890 01:25:06,650 --> 01:25:11,710 And if the price tag is too big on this then we're going to have to go for some outside 891 01:25:11,710 --> 01:25:19,730 funding for different things or some donations so we need to ... but that's all part of it. 892 01:25:19,730 --> 01:25:20,590 So this was the first act. 893 01:25:20,630 --> 01:25:22,610 I was just making sure that this was this. 894 01:25:22,910 --> 01:25:26,370 I want this to be, yeah, so I asked for the three things. 895 01:25:26,370 --> 01:25:29,210 If you use a B word, the bond thing, 896 01:25:32,260 --> 01:25:33,980 I don't want to use the word. 897 01:25:34,340 --> 01:25:35,120 There you go. 898 01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:42,580 But no, I think that this was thank you for this and tell the guys I appreciate. 899 01:25:43,020 --> 01:25:48,260 The timeliness of this as well, just so that we can have everything in black and white officially. 900 01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,180 And then we can move forward. 901 01:25:51,180 --> 01:25:58,500 So, across the board, BFW, I think we're Charlie Mike, 902 01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:00,900 over the board of continuing to mention, 903 01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:05,840 it sounds good with the Jefferson County seniors. 904 01:26:06,580 --> 01:26:11,240 We would appreciate if they reported to you one other thing. 905 01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:17,180 We'd like to put our sign out in front of the community center. 906 01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,660 BFW post, 1, 2, 1, 4, 1. 907 01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:25,500 We use the same vendor that we use and we'll pay for it. 908 01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:29,320 We use the same vendor that I don't know if I could help 909 01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:30,980 do a lease on that deal or not. 910 01:26:32,480 --> 01:26:35,560 But rub graphics did their signage out trying 911 01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:39,480 and we'll use the same vendor, same motif. 912 01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:42,660 We'd like you to consider that. 913 01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:53,540 And then we have the quasi and perpetuity, a sign of our own, our, we have a play kind 914 01:26:53,540 --> 01:26:58,200 of visual representation of ourselves in the community center. 915 01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:03,780 It's not just for, you know, out in the periphery of nowhere else. 916 01:27:04,860 --> 01:27:09,080 Is not somewhere in your being a shameless plug of your event coming up the end of the 917 01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:09,480 month here? 918 01:27:09,480 --> 01:27:21,660 Yeah, 29th we have our big dinner sponsored by the BFW and we're if you're all of course invited 919 01:27:23,020 --> 01:27:29,800 by the way part of our mending deal with the Jefferson County seniors is a congregate we 920 01:27:30,340 --> 01:27:36,100 are offering up some discount so they can get in because you know most of people are poor 921 01:27:37,300 --> 01:27:42,620 Otherwise they wouldn't be eating at the community center. 922 01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:46,200 So something five votes offered to him. 923 01:27:46,340 --> 01:27:52,100 I can't remember what Mike did, but I'm subordinate to that. 924 01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:56,040 I'm the judge at because much lower position. 925 01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:59,080 Both those guys are operating at 100%. 926 01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,720 I'm operating at 70%. 927 01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:04,380 That was pretty much it. 928 01:28:04,380 --> 01:28:08,040 Alright, thank you Sean. Thank you. 929 01:28:11,060 --> 01:28:14,140 George Kirk 1-5-0, North East Tenshreet, 930 01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:21,440 aka 70-100 Southwest Shad Road. So a couple of concerns is with like you know 931 01:28:21,440 --> 01:28:25,040 everybody's hurting for budgets and funding being cut you know like the city 932 01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:29,160 talked about last night they're looking possibly a million dollar budget 933 01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:33,700 It's shortfall, you know, and the fire department 934 01:28:33,700 --> 01:28:36,540 asking for a bond this year, the library wants to expand. 935 01:28:36,740 --> 01:28:37,960 They're asking for a bond this year. 936 01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:42,800 The MAC is asking for a bond this year to stay in the 937 01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:43,140 operate. 938 01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,980 And I think that the historical society should ask the 939 01:28:47,980 --> 01:28:51,620 public for a bond to see if that's what we really, 940 01:28:51,620 --> 01:28:52,180 really want. 941 01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:55,880 I mean, if they ask for maybe like 25 cents per thousand 942 01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:57,300 or something, it might be able to be approved. 943 01:28:57,300 --> 01:29:04,540 But I think it would be very irresponsible of all three commissioners if they just decided to give a hundred thousand dollars of my 944 01:29:04,540 --> 01:29:10,400 Your and everybody in the county's money away, especially with a lot of my friends family that 945 01:29:11,100 --> 01:29:11,340 River 946 01:29:12,620 --> 01:29:14,520 We would prefer that you give a 947 01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:20,100 Hundred thousand dollars here in mr. Pollock so we could have a share of run around out there 948 01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:25,900 You know patrolling and keeping it safe out there not that they don't get called, but you know 949 01:29:25,900 --> 01:29:28,780 It's always nice to have a deputy, you know, 950 01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:31,560 present, just what I've called, 951 01:29:31,900 --> 01:29:33,840 but have a deputy president prevents crime, 952 01:29:34,020 --> 01:29:34,320 prevention. 953 01:29:34,820 --> 01:29:36,680 See, the deputy old crap, a better not speeder, 954 01:29:36,740 --> 01:29:38,280 better not commit crimes than nobody here. 955 01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:39,800 But if you never see a deputy, 956 01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:41,700 you're more likely to commit crimes. 957 01:29:42,260 --> 01:29:45,260 But I think the $100,000 a year would be very irresponsible, 958 01:29:46,480 --> 01:29:48,020 because you're going up 90%. 959 01:29:48,020 --> 01:29:50,500 If you're giving them 10,000 now, you go to $100,000, 960 01:29:50,540 --> 01:29:53,920 you're going 90% up, and then $400,000 for building, 961 01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:59,860 you can purchase $200,000 to buy the building, and then $200,000 to also. 962 01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:08,020 Re-model, another concern is, so what if you do throw $500,000 of 200 for the building, 200 for 963 01:30:08,020 --> 01:30:13,440 construction, and $100,000 for operation costs? There's going to be change orders to fix 964 01:30:13,440 --> 01:30:18,480 the building, so that really, it's always change orders when you're doing remodeling, so 965 01:30:18,480 --> 01:30:23,940 it's going to cost more. It's just not feasible. Another concern is, if they do open, we give 966 01:30:23,940 --> 01:30:32,040 five hundred thousand dollars a half a million dollars and then they realize oh we can't operate 967 01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:37,260 on this money that we already have we're gonna have to come ask for two hundred and fifty to sustain 968 01:30:37,260 --> 01:30:43,640 and they can't do it so then they just close so then that will be big news if you give five hundred 969 01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:49,260 thousand dollars right away in the first year and they just closed because they're not open and I 970 01:30:49,260 --> 01:30:52,740 believe there's grants and they should ask the public because if you just give five hundred 971 01:30:52,740 --> 01:30:58,920 thousand dollars away then they realize we can't operate and they close. I guarantee you 972 01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:04,380 that there'll be three brand new commissioners. If you lose a half million dollars we're money. 973 01:31:04,940 --> 01:31:07,400 Thanks. Thanks for your comments George. Thanks. 974 01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:14,960 We do have revenue that comes in a multitude 975 01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:21,500 of different assets and there's specific ways we can spend that money and can't spend that money. 976 01:31:21,500 --> 01:31:26,660 So there is money that could potentially go to something like this, whether it's their 977 01:31:26,660 --> 01:31:31,100 whole ask or not, is beside the point. 978 01:31:31,700 --> 01:31:33,700 But some of that money can't go to the sheriff. 979 01:31:34,220 --> 01:31:42,320 And currently with the sheriff's update today is he's fully staffed on the patrol side 980 01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:50,080 with what the original FTE was for the last two, two and a half years. 981 01:31:50,080 --> 01:32:04,080 We've gave them latitude to hire two extra patrol staff, and those positions are still open, so we are supporting the sheriff, and we understand that, but thanks for your comments. 982 01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:11,960 Thanks, George. 983 01:32:13,580 --> 01:32:14,100 Laura. 984 01:32:14,100 --> 01:32:22,540 I wanted to follow up to Mr. Stamford's comment, I'm sorry, Laura Moore, Jefferson County 985 01:32:22,540 --> 01:32:25,380 Veterans Service Office regarding the signage on the senior center. 986 01:32:26,060 --> 01:32:32,620 I just want you to also, if you're going to look at doing the VFW to consider where 987 01:32:32,620 --> 01:32:40,380 the American Legion is in that because they also meet there, so I think if they also want 988 01:32:40,380 --> 01:32:47,700 signage and probably appropriate to do that, you know, at the same time. So there's just just a thought. 989 01:32:48,440 --> 01:32:49,640 Thank you. Thank you, thanks, Laura. 990 01:32:49,860 --> 01:32:56,960 Thank you for putting on our commander, Mike Williams, there's also many of us have the interaction. 991 01:32:58,420 --> 01:33:01,480 You can also kind of be there. 992 01:33:02,700 --> 01:33:06,020 Do we have any other public comment in the room, real quick? 993 01:33:06,660 --> 01:33:09,660 do we need anyone online? 994 01:33:11,950 --> 01:33:14,990 I think Laura is, was she wanting to try to get out of here? 995 01:33:15,050 --> 01:33:20,870 I have a way out of the sign that I want to make sure that if you get the same thing 996 01:33:20,870 --> 01:33:26,610 that anybody that wants to sign piece of motion, tell me my suggestion is that that building 997 01:33:26,610 --> 01:33:33,570 that the senior organization is really pleased to, that nothing may be purchased out of 998 01:33:33,570 --> 01:33:35,610 the green thing that goes through the system? 999 01:33:36,150 --> 01:33:36,270 Yep. 1000 01:33:36,450 --> 01:33:40,870 In the past, someone's come in, said they had a plan, 1001 01:33:41,230 --> 01:33:43,530 and then they said you know something to install them. 1002 01:33:44,050 --> 01:33:45,810 Yep, no, 100%. 1003 01:33:45,810 --> 01:33:47,050 This is county property. 1004 01:33:47,350 --> 01:33:49,250 We need to go through the proper channels, 1005 01:33:49,430 --> 01:33:52,330 regardless of if it's privately funded or not. 1006 01:33:52,570 --> 01:33:54,470 It needs to be approved through Tony. 1007 01:33:54,870 --> 01:33:57,970 And if Tony needs assistance come through us, 1008 01:33:58,010 --> 01:33:59,290 but it is county property. 1009 01:33:59,570 --> 01:34:00,830 And there is a process, 1010 01:34:00,830 --> 01:34:07,150 this, whether there's any kind of improvements need to be approved through Tony. 1011 01:34:07,350 --> 01:34:09,630 So thank you for that reminder. 1012 01:34:10,470 --> 01:34:11,770 No more public comment? 1013 01:34:13,190 --> 01:34:17,610 Okay, Bora, thank you for your patience, we'll get you in and out. 1014 01:34:17,870 --> 01:34:19,370 I have two things in there. 1015 01:34:20,110 --> 01:34:20,690 Eat two. 1016 01:34:20,810 --> 01:34:21,530 Two and eight three. 1017 01:34:21,770 --> 01:34:28,890 Okay, let's do eight two real quick, which looks like a correction to our copier contract. 1018 01:34:28,890 --> 01:34:29,930 copy your contract? 1019 01:34:32,970 --> 01:34:34,310 What's the correction? 1020 01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:45,780 Yeah, the when I sent these last 1021 01:34:45,780 --> 01:34:51,000 signed contract, they responded saying that the PO number was incorrect and 1022 01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:59,760 then that also they were incorrect on the the per copy price is actually lower. 1023 01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:14,400 All right, move to sign the corrected canon contract acknowledgement in Lena purchase order for veteran service office previously signed on February 12th, 2025 as m-028-254 that signed by the chair. 1024 01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:15,340 Second. 1025 01:35:15,860 --> 01:35:18,180 The motion and a second any further discussion? 1026 01:35:19,500 --> 01:35:22,940 All those in favor of the corrected con canon contract? 1027 01:35:23,440 --> 01:35:24,800 Please state by saying aye. 1028 01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:27,800 I'm I motion carries and 1029 01:35:29,020 --> 01:35:30,220 E3 or 1030 01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:32,280 out of state travel 1031 01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:37,400 so this is the 1032 01:35:38,700 --> 01:35:41,320 conference we attend every year nationally 1033 01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:46,240 it travels all over the US in this year it's going to be in 1034 01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:47,800 Kentucky 1035 01:35:50,300 --> 01:35:51,220 so just 1036 01:35:51,220 --> 01:35:55,120 important to know just so you know for budget is that 1037 01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:58,180 generally the conference is held in May or in the 1038 01:35:58,180 --> 01:36:03,180 June, most years, but this year is going to be held in July, which is going to be a new fiscal year for us. 1039 01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:12,180 So, and then the one next year is in Reno, and that was in May, so we're going to have two conferences in one fiscal year. 1040 01:36:13,260 --> 01:36:22,640 So I'm asking for permission to attend, but also carry out those funds so we can fund both of those in the same fiscal year. 1041 01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:24,140 Yeah, it makes sense. 1042 01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:24,400 Different. 1043 01:36:25,020 --> 01:36:25,260 Okay. 1044 01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:26,040 Perfect. 1045 01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:30,180 My motion to authorize, for out-of-state travel for Laura Moore and Kevin Ellensburg, 1046 01:36:30,380 --> 01:36:35,260 do attend the 2025 National Association of County Veteran Service Officer Conference, July 1047 01:36:35,260 --> 01:36:36,800 13th through 18th, 2025. 1048 01:36:38,620 --> 01:36:39,100 Second. 1049 01:36:39,900 --> 01:36:41,200 You got a motion in a second. 1050 01:36:41,300 --> 01:36:42,260 Any further discussion? 1051 01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:48,540 All those in favor of the out-of-state travel for Laura and Kevin, please state by saying 1052 01:36:48,540 --> 01:36:48,820 aye. 1053 01:36:49,020 --> 01:36:49,160 Aye. 1054 01:36:52,620 --> 01:36:54,280 Great day, Laura. Thank you. 1055 01:37:02,270 --> 01:37:03,290 Informal time. 1056 01:37:03,930 --> 01:37:05,430 13, welcome. 1057 01:37:06,530 --> 01:37:09,270 Which is our Madras Aquatic Center in 1058 01:37:09,270 --> 01:37:10,510 Operation District. All right. 1059 01:37:10,790 --> 01:37:11,530 Come on up. 1060 01:37:12,210 --> 01:37:13,950 28 minutes behind schedule. 1061 01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:27,560 Good morning commissioners. 1062 01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:28,220 Good morning. 1063 01:37:28,580 --> 01:37:31,080 Names for the record when you get a chance. 1064 01:37:31,860 --> 01:37:32,740 So for the record, 1065 01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:33,620 Courtney Snead, 1066 01:37:33,660 --> 01:37:35,280 executive director of the 1067 01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:37,140 Black Recreation District in 1068 01:37:37,140 --> 01:37:37,800 Janelle Lewis, 1069 01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:40,120 our board vice chair is here 1070 01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:40,880 with me as well. 1071 01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:52,980 We didn't expect to give you a 22 page slideshow, but I wanted to take this opportunity to give you a bunch of information about stuff that's going on. 1072 01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:58,800 So I'm not going to go through all of it, but you have it in case you want to take a look at it and ask any questions. 1073 01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:04,960 So let's scroll through. We've got some history. I wanted to just touch base 1074 01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:10,320 real quick that we do have a number of planning documents and have done quite 1075 01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:15,120 a bit of community outreach over the last few years to try and identify what the 1076 01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:19,940 priorities are of the communities that we serve within the district. And let's 1077 01:38:19,940 --> 01:38:25,280 if you go to the next one. Right now in our 10-year master plan we're focused on 1078 01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:32,320 sustainability which is the first piece of the feedback we received that the district 1079 01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:36,240 needs to kind of get our house in order and figure out how to operate sustainably. 1080 01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:45,660 And so that's what we're doing with the measures that are on the ballot in May and the goal 1081 01:38:45,660 --> 01:38:49,620 of that is to not have to come before you in the future and ask for tax anticipation loans 1082 01:38:49,620 --> 01:38:51,400 which is why we are here this morning. 1083 01:38:52,180 --> 01:38:59,300 So Lindsay, if you want to just want it to remind you, if you go back one, we give all 1084 01:38:59,300 --> 01:39:03,160 second graders, the five or nine jays school district swim lessons every year. 1085 01:39:03,500 --> 01:39:07,960 This is a picture of our Worm Springs Cade second graders this year and I'm life-garning 1086 01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:12,860 in the background because we don't have enough staff right now, all right, that should 1087 01:39:12,860 --> 01:39:14,220 not be a photo. 1088 01:39:14,660 --> 01:39:20,320 So if you want to go to the next thing, in this presentation, one of the things that we 1089 01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:25,040 We had the board look at in the last few months is really defining what sustainability means 1090 01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:30,240 and trying to demonstrate the things that we're currently able to do versus the things 1091 01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:36,240 that we know we should be doing as a responsible public organization that is required to follow 1092 01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:40,440 at least 15 different state codes and laws and rules, just as you all are. 1093 01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:46,040 So the next few pages, if you just want to click through, kind of talk through the definitions 1094 01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:51,600 of sustainability and identify, you know, what happens if the measures pass within the 1095 01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:56,040 first couple years, within the next three to five years, and then also tries to identify 1096 01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:57,040 what we're already doing. 1097 01:39:57,360 --> 01:40:01,120 And so as you kind of go through the next three or four, you can see there's not a lot 1098 01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:06,800 of underlined things because there's not a lot of things we can currently do with the funding 1099 01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:07,760 level that we have. 1100 01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:15,020 I also have, in the presentation, some data for you about participation numbers, despite 1101 01:40:15,020 --> 01:40:19,980 having to cut programs and services over the last few years, our participation rates are all up 1102 01:40:19,980 --> 01:40:26,140 in all the things that we do. And so this kind of shows you how aquatics has grown over the years, 1103 01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:32,080 the end-based programming, which is sports and enrichment. And then overall, you know, the last 1104 01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:36,300 year we've just seen a boom in the in folks participating. If you want to go to the next one, 1105 01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:41,980 this is a breakdown of programs that require pre-registration. So this is swim lessons, 1106 01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:45,620 all of our different sports programs tackle football, 1107 01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:47,220 soccer, soccer, all the things. 1108 01:40:47,860 --> 01:40:49,820 And you can see that over the last few years, 1109 01:40:49,940 --> 01:40:53,000 it's just participation is booming in these activities. 1110 01:40:53,780 --> 01:40:55,360 If you go to the next slide, 1111 01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:59,040 there's a lot of talk out there about our lack of open swims. 1112 01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:02,180 Part of that is it requires about $1,500 1113 01:41:02,500 --> 01:41:04,400 to run an open swim for three hours. 1114 01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:08,900 And we recover about $600 of that with fees. 1115 01:41:08,900 --> 01:41:15,040 So, property taxes subsidize us being able to be open for open swim, but despite cutting 1116 01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:20,080 it, we've got the highest number of people participating in open swims and it's a supply 1117 01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:20,820 and demand thing. 1118 01:41:21,500 --> 01:41:25,960 So, now that we only offer them twice a month, they're full and we're able to cover the 1119 01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:27,240 cost of offering that. 1120 01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:33,340 If you go to the next slide, this is just a, it's hard to read, but it's a visual representation 1121 01:41:33,340 --> 01:41:37,720 of overall program participation since 2018-19. 1122 01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:42,220 Our data prior to that is, I don't trust it. 1123 01:41:42,380 --> 01:41:43,960 I'm just gonna say it that way. 1124 01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:47,200 But you can see that during the asterisk year that 1125 01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:49,880 we will not talk about, it was really low in them. 1126 01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:51,120 It's just been booming since. 1127 01:41:52,440 --> 01:41:54,500 And we expect that trying to continue growing 1128 01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:57,500 if the measures successfully pass. 1129 01:41:58,340 --> 01:42:00,140 If you go to the next slide, 1130 01:42:00,140 --> 01:42:03,340 And also, another really important piece is memberships. 1131 01:42:03,380 --> 01:42:08,100 Most of those are, as you can see in that far right, third party health insurance. 1132 01:42:08,260 --> 01:42:13,320 Most of those are supported by Medicare, so it's for our seniors who are doing fitness 1133 01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:14,320 workouts in the morning. 1134 01:42:14,420 --> 01:42:19,700 If you come up to the pool between 9 and 11, you'll see probably 20 to 40 people in there exercising 1135 01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:24,740 because it's way easier to do in the water than it is on land once you get to a certain 1136 01:42:24,740 --> 01:42:25,040 age. 1137 01:42:26,300 --> 01:42:28,080 You want to go to the next slide. 1138 01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:34,540 So, I just, I want you guys to have this information in case you're asked, and I also am trying to get it out as much as possible. 1139 01:42:34,900 --> 01:42:38,740 If the measures don't pass, our current reduced hours will be reduced further. 1140 01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:44,720 I'm not even sure as I've been working on the budget that we're going to be able to be open for the hours that are presented here, 1141 01:42:45,900 --> 01:42:47,760 because we'll go down to three staff. 1142 01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:55,960 Right now, we've got about 20 to 30 staff members, seasonally depending on when that is, we will go down to three staff members. 1143 01:42:55,960 --> 01:43:01,160 If the measures don't pass, because instead of funding people to do programming, we're 1144 01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:07,400 going to have to fund facility improvements, because we're caught in a really tricky 1145 01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:08,680 situation financially. 1146 01:43:10,020 --> 01:43:14,180 If we have any mechanical or capital figures, we're going to be looking to all of our friends 1147 01:43:14,180 --> 01:43:19,100 and partners across Jefferson County, as well as grants, and there's not a lot of grants 1148 01:43:19,100 --> 01:43:22,500 for maintenance repairs, to try and fund it. 1149 01:43:22,500 --> 01:43:26,040 And if we can't find that money, then we will close until we can save enough money. 1150 01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:32,360 That puts us in another tricky situation because we'll lay everybody off and then it'll be tough to get folks to come back. 1151 01:43:33,260 --> 01:43:44,260 If you go to the next slide, I just want to point out that third bullet point, if the measures don't pass, that we'll have to explore options for someone else taken over operation of the recreation district and y'all are on our list. 1152 01:43:44,820 --> 01:43:51,400 So we'll be looking to the county or the city of Madras or somebody, maybe a private organization to take over operating the district. 1153 01:43:51,900 --> 01:43:57,300 Because at the point at which those measures don't pass, we don't really have another option. 1154 01:43:57,920 --> 01:43:58,860 That's out of pool. 1155 01:43:59,740 --> 01:44:00,040 I'm sorry? 1156 01:44:00,180 --> 01:44:00,900 That's out of pool. 1157 01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:02,140 That's everything. 1158 01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:06,880 That's a aquatic facility, that's sports enrichment, all the different programs. 1159 01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:10,300 If the measures don't pass, the board is going to be talking about it. 1160 01:44:10,300 --> 01:44:15,360 Our next board meeting, March 19th, not offering any sports or land-based activities next year. 1161 01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:20,360 So, that 250 kids that were in basketball will not be in basketball. 1162 01:44:21,580 --> 01:44:29,120 It's, we are in a severe budget pickle and that's the reason, last year the measures were put on the ballot. 1163 01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:37,440 They failed by, one failed by about 95 votes and that's why the board is chosen to put it on again. 1164 01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:42,580 I'm not sure that there's the will to put it on again if it doesn't pass this time. 1165 01:44:42,580 --> 01:44:47,600 And so we're talking about super significant impacts and reductions. 1166 01:44:48,700 --> 01:44:53,160 If you go to the next slide, because I like to end on a positive note, if the measures 1167 01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:58,340 pass will be able to triple our hours, that's all dependent on how quickly we can onboard 1168 01:44:58,340 --> 01:44:59,860 staff to help. 1169 01:45:02,060 --> 01:45:29,980 So I'm not sure, part of that is contingent upon the discussion with you all about the tax anticipation loan. So we'll get to that in the moment. But the goal is to triple the hours by next summer with those staffing adjustments. So you can see right now we're operating during the school year with 27 to 30 hours a week, open to the public and we would go to 61 hours a week, which is a doubling during the school year and to 76 hours a week during the summer. 1170 01:45:29,980 --> 01:45:36,220 summer. So, this gets us really excited. And then if you go to the next slide, we can 1171 01:45:36,220 --> 01:45:40,500 begin the process. We have to redo our locker room walls. I don't know if anybody remembers 1172 01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:47,620 a few years ago. A few years ago. I came out that the walls were not put in properly 1173 01:45:47,620 --> 01:45:51,520 entire locker rooms. They were done with drywall in a wet environment. And so, they're crumbling 1174 01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:56,680 from the inside out. We've got about three to five years to replace them. It's about a 1.2 1175 01:45:56,680 --> 01:46:02,900 estimated $1 million project to do that and so in addition to that we have new aquatic 1176 01:46:02,900 --> 01:46:06,360 health codes we'll have to follow which I'll also talk about in a second when that project 1177 01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:09,660 comes up so that may actually be more than 1.2 million because of that. 1178 01:46:10,580 --> 01:46:14,880 Anyway, we're really excited about the possibility of partnering with the county on programming, 1179 01:46:15,260 --> 01:46:20,280 on James Park and all kinds of other fun things should the measures pass. 1180 01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:22,160 You want to go to the next slide? 1181 01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:26,880 Okay, I needed to take a moment and talk about this because this is new and your county 1182 01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:32,500 health department will be responsible for implementing these rules and holding us accountable 1183 01:46:32,500 --> 01:46:33,340 for following them. 1184 01:46:34,480 --> 01:46:40,960 In our state's infinite wisdom, they have adopted the Model Health, Model Aquatic Health 1185 01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:45,920 Code, which is a best practice document for operating in Aquatics facility, both as it relates 1186 01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:49,720 to the asset itself and how we operate with staffing in the pool. 1187 01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:56,760 And I just brought for visual impact, all of those yellow tabs are money that we currently 1188 01:46:56,760 --> 01:47:01,320 are not spending, that we will be spending because of these new regulations that the 1189 01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:01,900 state has. 1190 01:47:02,740 --> 01:47:08,120 So kindly giving us two weeks to respond to, that they're implementing mid-March. 1191 01:47:08,740 --> 01:47:13,640 I don't know what the timeline is for us being shut down for not being in compliance, but 1192 01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:18,920 I can tell you that every pool east of the cascades is in noncompliance with these new rules. 1193 01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:22,960 We met a few weeks ago in how to discussion about it. 1194 01:47:23,300 --> 01:47:32,340 So it's about $150,000 next year that we'll have to invest because of this asset management 1195 01:47:32,340 --> 01:47:36,800 related stuff, preventative maintenance stuff that as a small district we just don't have 1196 01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:38,420 in place that will now be required. 1197 01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:46,120 Lots of documentation that we don't currently have on preventative maintenance, staffing 1198 01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:51,820 levels that are higher than what we currently have. We're close to best practice on staffing 1199 01:47:51,820 --> 01:47:55,080 levels. We've done some work over the last three years, but we're not quite compliant. 1200 01:47:56,580 --> 01:48:01,980 And so we're waiting with beta breath to see if they're going to give us a runway to 1201 01:48:01,980 --> 01:48:06,680 come into compliance, or if it'll be a, hey, March 15th, we're going to shut you down if 1202 01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:10,360 you're not in compliance. I hope they don't go that route. I hope they give us until at least 1203 01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:18,880 January of 26. I'm kind of hoping for January of 27. Because like I said, and I'm the facilities 1204 01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:27,340 guy right now. So you're saying we're one of only 10 states that have adopted these standards. 1205 01:48:27,420 --> 01:48:31,520 That's correct. And what are some of the examples of these standards? 1206 01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:38,560 So for the one that's super impactful is how they're calculating bather load. 1207 01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:43,140 Beta load is the number of people and bodies that can be in the water at one time. 1208 01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:46,440 Right now our building occupancy is 375. 1209 01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:50,100 The new Beta load calculations limit us to 158. 1210 01:48:51,420 --> 01:48:55,320 So that's one significant example that impacts how we operate. 1211 01:48:55,500 --> 01:49:00,680 Another one is we're required to have a lifeguard at the top of the slide and the bottom of the 1212 01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:01,000 slide. 1213 01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:05,560 Right now we have a deck attendant who's a 14 year old implementing rules at the top 1214 01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:06,180 of the slide. 1215 01:49:06,180 --> 01:49:08,340 But now we'll have to put two lifeguards. 1216 01:49:08,540 --> 01:49:16,280 So instead of spending $14 an hour, we'll be spending $56 an hour for every hour that we have the slide open. 1217 01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:20,300 So it's, and people get very angry if the slide isn't that way. 1218 01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:23,700 And so there's that children get very angry. 1219 01:49:23,820 --> 01:49:24,340 And they'll appear. 1220 01:49:24,860 --> 01:49:28,000 Is there, is there any, couldn't go on the slide while they were there for Rex? 1221 01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:28,500 Oh, yeah. 1222 01:49:28,580 --> 01:49:32,480 Is there anything we can do about this now reaching out to people doing that kind of stuff? 1223 01:49:32,480 --> 01:49:37,720 Summarize it and give me a give me a also I'll forge you my comments that I made to the yeah 1224 01:49:38,500 --> 01:49:46,120 Kelly will whip out. I love going. Oh RPA and SDAO is also involved 1225 01:49:46,700 --> 01:49:54,060 I mean they literally we found out at the SDAO conference February 8th that comments were open and we're extended to February 25th 1226 01:49:54,060 --> 01:49:56,000 And that it would be implemented March 1st 1227 01:49:58,740 --> 01:49:59,760 State of work there you go 1228 01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:06,640 Okay, so I just I wanted to bring this to your attention because it has a huge impact and the whole aquatic's professionals community is 1229 01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:10,180 We want to do best practice. Should it be the law? 1230 01:50:12,100 --> 01:50:17,440 No, no, no, you said something earlier that east side, you know, east side versus west side. Why what's the difference? 1231 01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:21,540 Well, we met as an east side. We have a dry sideers meeting that we do every quarter 1232 01:50:22,540 --> 01:50:24,540 So it's we do do 1233 01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:28,960 Or Portman, Hermiston, Ontario, the Mac, 1234 01:50:30,100 --> 01:50:32,320 Primeville, Sisters, it's like all of us 1235 01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:34,520 that have facilities on the side of the map. 1236 01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:36,680 The rules aren't different for Eastern and Western. 1237 01:50:36,900 --> 01:50:37,660 No, no, no, no. 1238 01:50:37,660 --> 01:50:39,240 Okay, so this impacts everybody. 1239 01:50:39,480 --> 01:50:41,440 And to all it's in hills, they have their own, 1240 01:50:41,580 --> 01:50:43,460 you know, they have a lot of money. 1241 01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:45,220 They have their own legislative people 1242 01:50:45,220 --> 01:50:46,120 that are on this too. 1243 01:50:48,020 --> 01:50:49,980 But, you know, we don't have those kind of resources 1244 01:50:50,660 --> 01:50:53,520 as dry-siders, which is why we meet together. 1245 01:50:54,540 --> 01:50:55,200 There you go. 1246 01:50:55,380 --> 01:50:56,000 What else? 1247 01:50:56,360 --> 01:50:57,920 So you said you, Matilda, right? 1248 01:50:58,060 --> 01:50:58,520 You're Hermiston? 1249 01:50:58,860 --> 01:50:58,980 Yep. 1250 01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:01,720 Who else would be a big, big player? 1251 01:51:02,220 --> 01:51:02,660 Boardman. 1252 01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:03,960 I'm going to do a new one. 1253 01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:04,520 I'm going to do a new one. 1254 01:51:05,780 --> 01:51:06,220 LaGrand. 1255 01:51:07,620 --> 01:51:08,060 Union. 1256 01:51:08,480 --> 01:51:12,060 Malala is not dry ciders, but they have a small district. 1257 01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:13,100 Beautiful. 1258 01:51:13,260 --> 01:51:14,140 Beautiful place, too. 1259 01:51:14,340 --> 01:51:14,900 Court County. 1260 01:51:15,700 --> 01:51:15,900 Really? 1261 01:51:16,420 --> 01:51:18,000 They have their outdoor pool during the summer. 1262 01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:22,180 I mean, some of the outdoor pools in the summer have different rules than what we do. 1263 01:51:22,180 --> 01:51:27,120 I'm assuming Kanita is also impacted potentially as an aquatics facility. 1264 01:51:28,500 --> 01:51:33,720 I'm assuming that Redmond is impacted as they're building an aquatics facility, because 1265 01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:38,400 there's also a whole bunch of new rules about building new facilities that we, unless 1266 01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:43,480 we substantially alter, which we can't get an answer with, that means I'm guessing we're 1267 01:51:43,480 --> 01:51:47,340 doing locker rooms as substantially altering, but then you have to come into compliance with 1268 01:51:47,340 --> 01:51:47,920 the building stuff. 1269 01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:54,540 That's cool. So, you said you don't know what the penalties are for non-compliance 1270 01:51:54,540 --> 01:52:03,000 quite yet. Is there in your dry sideers meeting? Is there a consensus that, you know, can 1271 01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:08,500 be united front on, okay, good. Yes. I would say even be with the Aquatics 1272 01:52:08,500 --> 01:52:12,660 Professionals community. There's a united front. Good. Because that's always a good way to get 1273 01:52:12,660 --> 01:52:13,500 your voice heard. Yeah. 1274 01:52:16,410 --> 01:52:18,870 Do you want to go to the next one? Why I'm really here. 1275 01:52:20,010 --> 01:52:25,570 So, historically the county has given us a tax anticipation loan to get us through July 1276 01:52:25,570 --> 01:52:28,130 to November when property tax revenues come in. 1277 01:52:28,310 --> 01:52:34,050 It's a loan, it's mutually beneficial, y'all make 6% interest off of us and then we get 1278 01:52:34,050 --> 01:52:37,390 to have cash flow for those months before the property taxes come in. 1279 01:52:38,010 --> 01:52:43,910 This year it's even more critical, we are looking to end the fiscal year in a deficit and 1280 01:52:43,910 --> 01:52:49,270 And so those funds would be super helpful in May and June to get us through that piece 1281 01:52:49,270 --> 01:52:51,670 and then also to get us through to November. 1282 01:52:52,250 --> 01:52:59,310 If the measures pass, we need, we hope, to try and hire staff as soon as humanly possible 1283 01:52:59,310 --> 01:53:02,890 so that we can ramp up our hours because when people vote and they see it pass, they're 1284 01:53:02,890 --> 01:53:05,350 going to expect that we have the hours immediately. 1285 01:53:06,110 --> 01:53:10,650 It's going to take us a minute to get people lifeguard certified and hired and all that kind of stuff. 1286 01:53:11,710 --> 01:53:17,650 So if we have a larger tax anticipation loan, last year you gave us 250,000 and we used 1287 01:53:19,170 --> 01:53:20,250 212,000 of it. 1288 01:53:22,470 --> 01:53:27,730 This year we're hoping for 400,000 so that we can, like I said, quickly on board new staff. 1289 01:53:28,950 --> 01:53:32,190 If the measures don't pass, we won't need 400,000. 1290 01:53:32,390 --> 01:53:35,810 Part of it's going to depend on what the board decides if we're going to operate the pool 1291 01:53:35,810 --> 01:53:42,190 the summer if we're going to do any programming, you know, what that looks like, because if 1292 01:53:42,190 --> 01:53:48,890 we do, if the measures don't pass, we'll be probably laying staff off like the middle 1293 01:53:48,890 --> 01:53:52,050 of June as soon as we're done with the school year. And I don't know what kind of staffing 1294 01:53:52,050 --> 01:53:57,070 we'll have for the summer. So it could be that we need less. But within that tax anticipation 1295 01:53:57,070 --> 01:54:03,590 loan, 50,000 of it is earmarked to replace our domestic water heater. I've got to reset 1296 01:54:03,590 --> 01:54:05,790 that her, we call her, she's very temperamental. 1297 01:54:06,890 --> 01:54:09,570 Got her about 30 times a day right now 1298 01:54:09,570 --> 01:54:11,810 to try and keep the showers warm. 1299 01:54:13,090 --> 01:54:17,570 She's 20 years old, 18 years old, operating 24 or 7. 1300 01:54:18,030 --> 01:54:19,270 So I got some quotes. 1301 01:54:19,470 --> 01:54:21,690 The quotes came back in about 42,000. 1302 01:54:21,830 --> 01:54:23,350 So I've got a little bit of a buffer in there, 1303 01:54:23,410 --> 01:54:25,090 just in case they've got a replace piping 1304 01:54:25,090 --> 01:54:25,890 and that kind of stuff. 1305 01:54:26,470 --> 01:54:28,430 But again, that's all part of the loan 1306 01:54:28,430 --> 01:54:32,170 that we will repay and that we are paying 6% interest on. 1307 01:54:32,170 --> 01:54:42,910 So we're hoping that the county is still open to providing that tax anticipation loan as I said, a mutually beneficial loan to us. 1308 01:54:43,410 --> 01:54:49,950 So I love, you know, loans versus just grant my name's given out or whatever. 1309 01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:57,400 So you typically asked for 200,000, you want to double that to 400,000. 1310 01:54:59,100 --> 01:55:05,180 If you don't receive the $400,000, $50,000 out of that $200, we'll still go to the heater. 1311 01:55:06,500 --> 01:55:10,280 So if it 1312 01:55:12,450 --> 01:55:18,990 doesn't pass, you just said that you won't need all the $400,000. 1313 01:55:18,990 --> 01:55:19,150 No. 1314 01:55:21,630 --> 01:55:29,010 So my thought is, can we give you, is it possible to give you the current loan of $200,000, 1315 01:55:29,530 --> 01:55:35,610 and then if it passes, come back for the remainder of what you need? 1316 01:55:36,250 --> 01:55:36,890 Where is that? 1317 01:55:37,450 --> 01:55:37,690 Yes. 1318 01:55:38,990 --> 01:55:43,910 Last year was 250, so I would ask you to keep it in the past. 1319 01:55:43,910 --> 01:55:50,070 That's what I had that that number down 250 and that the new he said 200 ago. Where am I used to it used to be 200 1320 01:55:50,070 --> 01:55:56,230 Then it got up last year. Okay. Part of it is that we close every September and we do a lot of maintenance and things. 1321 01:55:56,250 --> 01:56:02,950 And so we have a lot of expenses that month before we get our taxes in so the 250 helps us deal with that. 1322 01:56:03,690 --> 01:56:10,170 So yes, I would say it would be totally reasonable and acceptable and helpful to get the 250 kind of approved. 1323 01:56:10,170 --> 01:56:13,430 And then if the measures pass, we can come back and ask for the additional. 1324 01:56:13,430 --> 01:56:14,930 Is that a problem with our budget? 1325 01:56:15,210 --> 01:56:17,590 No, is that going to be good to work with our budget? 1326 01:56:18,950 --> 01:56:19,190 Okay. 1327 01:56:19,650 --> 01:56:24,310 No, not in the fund that we typically utilize to provide this anticipation. 1328 01:56:24,870 --> 01:56:25,210 Okay. 1329 01:56:25,730 --> 01:56:30,790 It would help us, Commissioner Taylor, to have a sense of whether or not the commission 1330 01:56:30,790 --> 01:56:36,510 would approve up to that 400 so that as we're doing our budgeting and planning, that we have 1331 01:56:36,510 --> 01:56:41,130 a sense if that's an option or if I need to figure out alternatives or really hit home 1332 01:56:41,130 --> 01:56:47,810 that we're not going to be able to increase staffing until January I my personal 1333 01:56:47,810 --> 01:56:53,130 believe just beginning for myself as I I really want to wait and see what our 1334 01:56:53,130 --> 01:56:59,110 community says before I commit to that much more alone because my fear is if 1335 01:56:59,110 --> 01:57:03,170 we give me $400,000 that's the ability to pay it back if it doesn't go through 1336 01:57:03,170 --> 01:57:05,730 and so it comes back. 1337 01:57:05,830 --> 01:57:09,690 It comes right out, you just pull it right out. 1338 01:57:09,690 --> 01:57:11,610 You just pull it out of, I love it. 1339 01:57:11,610 --> 01:57:12,570 The property taxes, so. 1340 01:57:12,790 --> 01:57:13,350 It goes with that money. 1341 01:57:14,270 --> 01:57:16,010 100% guarantee it gets paid out. 1342 01:57:16,590 --> 01:57:18,890 OK, OK, 1343 01:57:21,100 --> 01:57:22,660 I'm on board with supporting the pool. 1344 01:57:24,180 --> 01:57:25,760 I'm on board with supporting the pool 1345 01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:30,840 for what you're asking if our constituents approve it. 1346 01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:33,100 If I could say supporting the district. 1347 01:57:33,100 --> 01:57:38,080 district. Because it's more than the pool. It's also all the sports. Yes, enrichment, all the things. 1348 01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:45,300 We're trying to help people. You go. Remember it's the whole thing. You're right. Yeah, no, I think 1349 01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:54,900 myself included, I see no reason why we wouldn't continue the $250,000 now. Wait and see how the voters 1350 01:57:55,660 --> 01:58:02,640 feel about the measure. And if they're in support, I definitely want to be that good partner and 1351 01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:20,560 bridge that gap. And so I think it comes down to the voters. If they support the work you guys are doing and what you propose, I would be the vote of, yes, how can we help you get there with this guarantee approval by the voters? 1352 01:58:21,020 --> 01:58:24,260 So yeah, that's where I'm at. 1353 01:58:24,260 --> 01:58:29,680 I just want to add really briefly that there's a really active group right now that I'm 1354 01:58:29,680 --> 01:58:35,780 a part of the back of the MACRD going out and marketing the measures. 1355 01:58:36,220 --> 01:58:38,180 So there's just two measures again this year. 1356 01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:39,480 We have to dissolve and reform. 1357 01:58:39,980 --> 01:58:41,260 It is not a bond. 1358 01:58:42,020 --> 01:58:43,500 It's to dissolve the district. 1359 01:58:43,540 --> 01:58:46,840 You have to vote yes on that and then vote yes to reform. 1360 01:58:47,400 --> 01:58:52,280 So we're really trying to get the messaging out because we're only short by 95 votes on 1361 01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:56,520 the dissolving part and I think it was very confusing for our constituents last year. 1362 01:58:57,220 --> 01:59:00,180 And so I do not think it was a lack of support. 1363 01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:02,020 I think it was the confusion of the ballot. 1364 01:59:02,280 --> 01:59:05,600 And so that's why we're pretty aggressively getting out there with the two yeses. 1365 01:59:06,380 --> 01:59:11,080 So trying to spread that word, it's voting yes twice if you really do want to support. 1366 01:59:12,260 --> 01:59:14,540 Thank you to the commissioners for supporting that measure. 1367 01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:21,580 Yeah, no, it's confusing I think when we all started this conversation previously, it was 1368 01:59:21,580 --> 01:59:27,080 confusing to us as well as you guys and like all that happens so the confusion 1369 01:59:27,080 --> 01:59:32,760 from the voter standpoint is is challenging and so I hope you guys 1370 01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:38,440 success in that education piece because it is it's difficult to explain that so 1371 01:59:51,580 --> 01:59:57,180 That says 250, if 250 is what is true to that on 8th 1st, 1372 01:59:57,280 --> 01:59:59,200 but the payment on the last year in November. 1373 02:00:14,660 --> 02:00:35,960 What I want to know is how valuable is the $50,000 earmark for that domestic water? How does it relate to operations as of today? Is it just a pain in the butt? Because you're reset it 30 times, or is it just that we're not providing hot water to people taking charge? Depends on the day. I mean, if I had money sitting in a bank account would have been replaced six months ago. 1374 02:00:38,040 --> 02:00:39,680 I mean, it would have been a place. 1375 02:00:39,860 --> 02:00:44,980 It's more like also customers has factions like having small children that get cold in 1376 02:00:44,980 --> 02:00:46,820 the pool really easily can't go warm up. 1377 02:00:47,580 --> 02:00:48,920 Right. Well, that's my point. 1378 02:00:49,120 --> 02:00:55,020 I think I've been an advocate in this conversation about the 250 loan and then an advocate for the 1379 02:00:55,020 --> 02:00:57,300 50,000 just because it is an asset. 1380 02:00:57,820 --> 02:01:02,220 Now, whether you guys run or not in the future, that's to be told here soon, right? 1381 02:01:02,220 --> 02:01:12,500 So somebody's going to need a $50,000 water heater at some point, you know, if this, I mean it's not going to sit up their idle no matter what, right. 1382 02:01:12,920 --> 02:01:19,580 So I would be an advocate for doing 300 at this time to allow them to 50. You just kind of look at it. 1383 02:01:19,600 --> 02:01:22,340 250 is, hey, this is operations that gets them through. 1384 02:01:22,340 --> 02:01:31,000 So the 50 is this tangible piece of equipment that is necessary for the, you know, to make it run. 1385 02:01:31,120 --> 02:01:36,580 And like I said, if you're going to, it's all not marketing, if you're going to tell people, hey, we need you to pass these bonds. 1386 02:01:37,260 --> 02:01:40,100 And I would have if you had warm showers, you know. 1387 02:01:40,200 --> 02:01:43,760 And I don't want that to be a detriment. 1388 02:01:44,580 --> 02:01:48,020 So there's no difference, again, coming back to my eyes anyways. 1389 02:01:48,020 --> 02:01:52,760 there's no difference between alone in your 350 because it's collected we collected anyways 1390 02:01:52,760 --> 02:01:57,940 we're gonna get paid that's a guarantee that you know the community needs to understand fully that 1391 02:01:57,940 --> 02:02:04,720 this isn't a giveaway. This is your money that's coming in and if you tell me I need it right now 1392 02:02:04,720 --> 02:02:10,160 that's fine I do I do admire the other commissioners and I'm not putting words hopefully not putting 1393 02:02:10,160 --> 02:02:16,060 words in your mouth but I do admire the fact that we want to see what the pulse of the community is 1394 02:02:16,060 --> 02:02:24,040 as to what it's going to look like. But I don't think $50,000 water heater is too much 1395 02:02:24,040 --> 02:02:25,620 of an ask. That's my own opinion. 1396 02:02:26,340 --> 02:02:29,580 Well, they can use 50 grand out of the 250 in the meantime, all right? 1397 02:02:29,940 --> 02:02:36,980 Did you use 212 to the last year up until the taxes came in, so November, right? 1398 02:02:37,160 --> 02:02:41,160 Well, and frankly, the measures don't pass and we're at the 250. We're not even going to use 1399 02:02:41,160 --> 02:02:44,740 that because the pool might be shut down and we won't be doing any other programming 1400 02:02:44,740 --> 02:02:51,260 our activities. So 300,000 wouldn't change? I actually think 250 is okay. I mean I appreciate 1401 02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:57,520 the sentiment for sure because then we can plan to actually replace it in May June instead of 1402 02:02:57,520 --> 02:03:03,440 waiting until September because that 250 will come in May 1st. So that's actually super helpful 1403 02:03:04,020 --> 02:03:09,940 in itself to keep it at the 250. But I mean I would rather not because I think when we calculate 1404 02:03:09,940 --> 02:03:18,360 interest. It would not be calculated on the extra 150 until we get it in July. So I'd rather not 1405 02:03:18,360 --> 02:03:24,040 pay 6% on that 50,000 if I can save it. So you just snatched it from the victor the jaws of 1406 02:03:24,040 --> 02:03:34,160 victory here. It's fine. I appreciate it. That's fine. Is that something we would entertain as 1407 02:03:34,160 --> 02:03:45,100 just proposal of 250 May 1st and then if both measures pass July 1st 1408 02:03:45,100 --> 02:03:51,520 increasing it up to 400 so another 150 July 1st dependent on the measures 1409 02:03:51,520 --> 02:03:57,840 so it's more streamlined everything's set in place and as soon as that vote 1410 02:03:57,840 --> 02:04:08,300 count. You guys know we know and and there's a plan is that no that's great. We need a motion for 1411 02:04:08,300 --> 02:04:15,640 that. No we'll we'll do a loan agreement. I have Alexa work to see if they can get it on there or 1412 02:04:15,640 --> 02:04:19,240 whatever. When's your next board meeting? March 19th. 1413 02:04:21,390 --> 02:04:21,770 I'll get that. 1414 02:04:21,770 --> 02:04:24,030 The world's 28, Alex is drowning in work. 1415 02:04:24,810 --> 02:04:25,470 No pun intended. 1416 02:04:27,170 --> 02:04:28,550 As always, thank you, Lexington. 1417 02:04:29,250 --> 02:04:31,290 So, staff directed. 1418 02:04:32,190 --> 02:04:32,550 Thank you. 1419 02:04:34,030 --> 02:04:37,670 What, just to, this doesn't put pay any. 1420 02:04:37,910 --> 02:04:38,710 I know you can't vote. 1421 02:04:39,190 --> 02:04:41,550 What is the, are we having town halls? 1422 02:04:41,730 --> 02:04:44,490 We haven't, are we gonna get really serious about, 1423 02:04:45,670 --> 02:04:47,530 not saying that you're not serious, but. 1424 02:04:49,590 --> 02:04:59,250 So I know that the back the MACRD local action committee is active they've been tabling 1425 02:04:59,250 --> 02:05:14,700 at major events as a public employee I'm not you can't write 100% no we're just going 1426 02:05:14,700 --> 02:05:18,280 of reasoning, blackmailers, flaring cars, 1427 02:05:19,020 --> 02:05:20,780 and even president at local events. 1428 02:05:21,120 --> 02:05:22,560 Anyone has feedback? 1429 02:05:22,880 --> 02:05:24,080 I just came out with the postcard. 1430 02:05:24,660 --> 02:05:27,780 Scott Taylor is our folks person this year, 1431 02:05:29,500 --> 02:05:32,540 and I'm the vice chair for that committee. 1432 02:05:33,520 --> 02:05:38,020 What, the building itself, the bond on the building, 1433 02:05:38,440 --> 02:05:39,860 it's done win. 1434 02:05:40,500 --> 02:05:43,180 June, this June, 2025. 1435 02:05:43,180 --> 02:05:48,000 So we have two months or three months to pay on it basically, then it goes away. 1436 02:05:48,240 --> 02:05:53,400 Yes, that's why we're trying to roll that into the permanent tax rate that we're establishing. 1437 02:05:54,400 --> 02:05:59,300 Or it goes completely away so that it will keep the current tax rate essentially. 1438 02:05:59,540 --> 02:06:01,800 Yeah, no, I've understood it. 1439 02:06:02,100 --> 02:06:04,980 I just was curious because I hear conflicting things. 1440 02:06:04,980 --> 02:06:08,380 I thought it was coming up soon, and then I've got other people coming. 1441 02:06:08,660 --> 02:06:09,500 No, nothing in the future. 1442 02:06:09,940 --> 02:06:11,000 That's what I've heard. 1443 02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:17,960 If the measures do not pass, we will levy the bond next year for an amount to pay back 1444 02:06:17,960 --> 02:06:22,000 alone that the general fund has to make to the debt service fund to make the final payment 1445 02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:24,980 because of the PG&E tax refund situation. 1446 02:06:26,380 --> 02:06:32,380 So we will levy convoluted much less than we have historically to make that general loan 1447 02:06:32,380 --> 02:06:32,900 payment back. 1448 02:06:33,180 --> 02:06:33,520 Sounds good. 1449 02:06:33,680 --> 02:06:34,800 If the measures do not pass. 1450 02:06:34,800 --> 02:06:38,440 All right, everybody got staff got everybody got an idea of what we're doing. 1451 02:06:38,800 --> 02:06:38,980 Direction? 1452 02:06:39,920 --> 02:06:40,440 Yes. 1453 02:06:41,020 --> 02:06:41,100 Good. 1454 02:06:41,620 --> 02:06:42,820 Thanks for commissioners. 1455 02:06:43,020 --> 02:06:43,800 Thank you guys. 1456 02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:47,060 Hey boss man, do we think? 1457 02:06:47,620 --> 02:06:49,800 Yeah, let's take a quick little break. 1458 02:06:50,000 --> 02:06:55,960 We're behind schedules and then we'll come back and jump through some of these things real quick. 1459 02:06:56,220 --> 02:06:59,680 So let's be back in three minutes. 1460 02:07:01,220 --> 02:07:01,780 Okay, 1461 02:07:10,790 --> 02:07:11,790 welcome back. 1462 02:07:12,970 --> 02:07:15,150 Let's go back to the beginning here. 1463 02:07:15,390 --> 02:07:18,170 I would entertain a motion on the consent agenda. 1464 02:07:18,170 --> 02:07:20,090 There's one move to approve consent agenda. 1465 02:07:20,290 --> 02:07:21,470 6-1-3-6-3. 1466 02:07:21,870 --> 02:07:22,430 Second. 1467 02:07:23,950 --> 02:07:24,730 That a boy. 1468 02:07:25,450 --> 02:07:26,850 Any further discussion? 1469 02:07:27,050 --> 02:07:27,190 Nope. 1470 02:07:27,810 --> 02:07:30,370 All those in favor of approval of consent agenda, 1471 02:07:30,610 --> 02:07:32,350 item 6-1-2-3. 1472 02:07:32,550 --> 02:07:33,430 Please state by saying aye. 1473 02:07:33,630 --> 02:07:33,770 Aye. 1474 02:07:33,770 --> 02:07:43,430 5, motion carries, good executive session that we're late for at 10 p.m. 6 o'clock board 1475 02:07:43,430 --> 02:07:49,370 commissioner meeting at Calcutta Ranch tonight, 8 1 GIS. 1476 02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:57,900 Yeah, can you please. 1477 02:08:00,040 --> 02:08:01,460 Any staff 1478 02:08:01,460 --> 02:08:02,540 update on this 1479 02:08:05,680 --> 02:08:11,940 date one standard MOU with City of Madras for GIS transfer of 1480 02:08:13,240 --> 02:08:13,760 information 1481 02:08:17,890 --> 02:08:21,710 I know it's a data sharing agreement that I have reviewed but I 1482 02:08:21,710 --> 02:08:28,250 don't know what it entails that's a GIS for sure if we were going to send a letter 1483 02:08:28,250 --> 02:08:31,470 to somebody that would know what would be I'd put on the front of the envelope 1484 02:08:31,470 --> 02:08:31,910 two. 1485 02:08:33,920 --> 02:08:36,720 G-I-S. Ray? 1486 02:08:42,460 --> 02:08:44,380 Ray is on there. Are you there, Ray? 1487 02:08:49,360 --> 02:08:50,300 He's running down. 1488 02:08:51,540 --> 02:08:54,180 I'm gonna keep going, I'll go ask Ray to come back. 1489 02:08:54,200 --> 02:08:55,960 Okay, let's go eight four. 1490 02:09:00,660 --> 02:09:04,180 The motion to prove the salary change order for Isaac Blair Building Inspector, two. 1491 02:09:05,220 --> 02:09:05,620 Six. 1492 02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:13,420 The motion in a second, any further discussion? I think this is just continuing Isaac stepping 1493 02:09:13,420 --> 02:09:18,220 and open us in that interim and some vacancies. 1494 02:09:18,540 --> 02:09:20,160 So appreciate Isaac for doing that 1495 02:09:20,160 --> 02:09:23,060 and want to make sure he's compensated 1496 02:09:23,060 --> 02:09:25,060 for that extra work that he's doing. 1497 02:09:26,140 --> 02:09:27,160 Any further discussion? 1498 02:09:27,880 --> 02:09:30,900 All those in favor of the salary change order for Isaac. 1499 02:09:31,280 --> 02:09:32,420 Please state by saying aye. 1500 02:09:33,700 --> 02:09:33,860 Aye. 1501 02:09:34,200 --> 02:09:34,820 Motion carries. 1502 02:09:35,600 --> 02:09:40,620 Back to 8-1 with our GIS exchange of data 1503 02:09:40,620 --> 02:09:43,520 with the City of Madras. Ray, thank you. 1504 02:09:43,740 --> 02:09:45,200 Good morning, commissioners, 1505 02:09:45,320 --> 02:09:47,240 Racial East Jefferson County Assessor's Office. 1506 02:09:48,200 --> 02:09:50,740 This is our memorandum of understanding. 1507 02:09:51,320 --> 02:09:53,740 Same as what we established with Jefferson County 1508 02:09:53,740 --> 02:09:55,160 soil and water district. 1509 02:09:55,820 --> 02:09:57,620 And it's just for our annual subscription, 1510 02:09:57,820 --> 02:10:00,260 you've already approved that, MOU, it's the same one. 1511 02:10:00,720 --> 02:10:00,740 Okay. 1512 02:10:02,580 --> 02:10:03,840 Thank you for that. 1513 02:10:04,280 --> 02:10:05,680 That, Ray. Appreciate it. 1514 02:10:07,740 --> 02:10:09,800 I will motion to approve the memorandum 1515 02:10:09,800 --> 02:10:11,200 of understanding between Jefferson County 1516 02:10:11,200 --> 02:10:14,520 and the City of Madras for the exchange of GIS data. 1517 02:10:16,680 --> 02:10:16,860 Second. 1518 02:10:17,780 --> 02:10:18,940 I've got a motion in a second. 1519 02:10:19,060 --> 02:10:22,180 Any further discussion on the motion? 1520 02:10:24,440 --> 02:10:25,140 All those in favor? 1521 02:10:25,480 --> 02:10:25,780 Say aye. 1522 02:10:28,910 --> 02:10:29,070 Aye. 1523 02:10:30,690 --> 02:10:30,850 Aye. 1524 02:10:32,050 --> 02:10:34,590 I think he's not playing around today. 1525 02:10:34,910 --> 02:10:35,610 Motion carries. 1526 02:10:36,650 --> 02:10:38,070 That was for you, Will. 1527 02:10:41,150 --> 02:10:42,170 Thank you, Jones. 1528 02:10:42,350 --> 02:10:42,570 Thank you, Jones. 1529 02:10:42,570 --> 02:10:42,690 Appreciate it. 1530 02:10:42,750 --> 02:10:43,210 Thank you, Ray. 1531 02:10:43,470 --> 02:10:43,930 Appreciate it. 1532 02:10:47,890 --> 02:10:51,790 I'm correct me if I'm wrong staff. We are scratch and eat five 1533 02:10:53,030 --> 02:11:06,100 Okay, who longer needed 8 sex is this Tony? It's six yes change order for our Sheriff's Office public health storage building 1534 02:11:06,780 --> 02:11:14,520 Change order number two is the mobile health clinic plug-in. It's a 220 plug-in to be added so they can keep 1535 02:11:14,520 --> 02:11:23,500 their clinic or batteries charge things cool. The HVAC permits that we 1536 02:11:23,500 --> 02:11:28,180 normally cover. They went ahead and purchased them just because the contractor 1537 02:11:28,180 --> 02:11:33,080 purchased them because of timing. So he purchased them and then so this is 1538 02:11:33,080 --> 02:11:39,420 basically counting for those costs. Change order three is the electrical overhead 1539 02:11:39,420 --> 02:11:44,440 doors. So the contractor originally thought that that was part of the bed. So 1540 02:11:44,440 --> 02:11:49,500 he purchased them and is willing to eat that cost. But there is a change order for 1541 02:11:49,500 --> 02:11:55,100 $7,200 for getting electricity to $6,000. Yeah, $6,000. 1542 02:11:55,360 --> 02:11:56,660 I like 1543 02:12:00,860 --> 02:12:05,080 him eating the cost. I do think it's going to be beneficial just to have an electric 1544 02:12:05,080 --> 02:12:12,840 roll with over manual. Because of the variety of staff they'll be using the doors, both on 1545 02:12:12,840 --> 02:12:14,640 public outside and share of side. 1546 02:12:14,640 --> 02:12:15,920 I'm trying to initial cost. 1547 02:12:16,020 --> 02:12:18,340 We try to keep costs as low as we could, just so. 1548 02:12:18,500 --> 02:12:19,640 Absolutely, and I appreciate that. 1549 02:12:20,140 --> 02:12:20,240 Yep. 1550 02:12:21,080 --> 02:12:22,660 There is a value for sure. 1551 02:12:22,740 --> 02:12:26,280 Yep, huge value, and we're getting discounted rate 1552 02:12:26,640 --> 02:12:27,320 and that value. 1553 02:12:27,840 --> 02:12:31,060 Okay, all motion to approve the purchase, 1554 02:12:31,280 --> 02:12:32,820 requisition form, sheriff's office, 1555 02:12:32,940 --> 02:12:35,100 and public health storage building change order number two 1556 02:12:35,100 --> 02:12:37,740 and number three in the amount of $12,200. 1557 02:12:38,360 --> 02:12:38,640 Second. 1558 02:12:39,420 --> 02:12:41,860 The motion in a second, any further discussion. 1559 02:12:41,860 --> 02:12:53,180 I just want to appreciate staff for keeping the project clean and mean and online with 1560 02:12:53,180 --> 02:13:00,660 the estimate and budget so appreciate that and we went and saw it last week and it's 1561 02:13:00,660 --> 02:13:05,700 really good and we're going to benefit both departments as well and thank you departments 1562 02:13:05,700 --> 02:13:12,020 for working together and leveraging your finances to have this asset. 1563 02:13:14,160 --> 02:13:17,080 It's easier for both, so appreciate it. 1564 02:13:17,460 --> 02:13:18,360 Any further discussion? 1565 02:13:19,580 --> 02:13:24,880 All those in favor of the purchase requisition form for the change order of number two and number three. 1566 02:13:25,140 --> 02:13:26,720 Please signify by saying aye. 1567 02:13:26,940 --> 02:13:27,100 Aye. 1568 02:13:27,920 --> 02:13:28,120 Aye. 1569 02:13:28,460 --> 02:13:29,060 Motion carries. 1570 02:13:29,960 --> 02:13:30,940 Thank you, Mr. Smith. 1571 02:13:30,940 --> 02:13:31,500 Thank you, Tony. 1572 02:13:35,110 --> 02:13:36,930 8-7 is that you, Jeff? 1573 02:13:38,250 --> 02:13:45,150 8-7 is, yes, it's the action from the action you guys took last week to read through the 1574 02:13:45,150 --> 02:13:47,230 job description for the Public Works Director. 1575 02:13:50,500 --> 02:13:56,800 Okay, I'll move to sign the salary change order for Matt Palison, the great one at Public 1576 02:13:56,800 --> 02:13:57,540 Works Director. 1577 02:14:00,130 --> 02:14:00,510 I'll second. 1578 02:14:00,990 --> 02:14:02,090 Get a motion in a second. 1579 02:14:02,230 --> 02:14:03,130 Any further discussion? 1580 02:14:05,660 --> 02:14:08,400 All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. 1581 02:14:08,400 --> 02:14:10,340 Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. 1582 02:14:11,140 --> 02:14:11,500 Motion carries. 1583 02:14:13,800 --> 02:14:15,980 Do we have Robert yet? 1584 02:14:16,540 --> 02:14:17,180 Okay. 1585 02:14:17,620 --> 02:14:19,920 Just let me know when he's available. 1586 02:14:20,660 --> 02:14:22,880 I think he's doing some travel in this morning. 1587 02:14:23,180 --> 02:14:25,980 So, elected official reports. 1588 02:14:26,260 --> 02:14:29,600 Do you have any other elected updates, Sheriff? 1589 02:14:30,440 --> 02:14:30,820 Yes, sir. 1590 02:14:31,640 --> 02:14:32,280 Gabe. 1591 02:14:37,210 --> 02:14:38,330 Hey, do you have anything? 1592 02:14:38,930 --> 02:14:40,150 If so, chime in. 1593 02:14:43,300 --> 02:14:44,620 Don't see anyone else. 1594 02:14:46,380 --> 02:14:47,660 Department of Head Reports, 1595 02:14:50,680 --> 02:14:53,740 Kedi, Tony, Diane, any other reports? 1596 02:14:55,400 --> 02:14:56,100 Okay, 1597 02:14:58,150 --> 02:14:59,550 we'll come back to Robert. 1598 02:15:00,590 --> 02:15:30,570 County Council report. Okay, thank you. County administrative officer. Yeah, it's going back to the Ed Coe discussion regarding the $10,000 invoice to remain a platinum member. Front of you is the interlocal, all right, we're sorry, the memorandum of understanding between the city of Madras and Ed Coe on page three, 2.6. The question was if there is a need for 1599 02:15:30,570 --> 02:15:34,410 us to continue to be a platinum member for the extra seat. 1600 02:15:34,730 --> 02:15:43,560 So in that paragraph, it says that for the period of this MOU, the city and county will 1601 02:15:43,560 --> 02:15:46,720 each have one appointed representative serving on the Edco board. 1602 02:15:47,140 --> 02:15:51,940 Additional seats may be retained through ongoing platinum membership already in place. 1603 02:15:56,640 --> 02:15:59,400 So we get one seat, maybe, in a platinum member. 1604 02:15:59,600 --> 02:16:03,440 What is the makeup with the program? 1605 02:16:04,120 --> 02:16:08,460 So, yeah, so I was kind of going the other way, sorry, my coworker. 1606 02:16:08,560 --> 02:16:13,000 Yeah, so we get one member for being a partner of the local program. 1607 02:16:13,280 --> 02:16:23,720 And so if we continue to be a platinum member, I would say this year is the year that we would then have some type of decision for you all to make on who would take the platinum level seat. 1608 02:16:24,000 --> 02:16:24,840 A new seat. 1609 02:16:25,020 --> 02:16:26,440 A new seat. 1610 02:16:26,440 --> 02:16:33,000 We would still have a commissioner or potential through the program. 1611 02:16:33,640 --> 02:16:33,760 Yes. 1612 02:16:34,040 --> 02:16:34,640 There would be one. 1613 02:16:34,900 --> 02:16:37,080 What other seats do we have with the program? 1614 02:16:38,020 --> 02:16:39,280 The city would have one. 1615 02:16:39,580 --> 02:16:40,360 The city would have one. 1616 02:16:40,580 --> 02:16:47,860 If the city and the county each independently do $10,000, then we would have another one seat each that they would appoint. 1617 02:16:48,820 --> 02:16:50,740 And then you would appoint as well. 1618 02:16:51,160 --> 02:16:51,460 Okay. 1619 02:16:51,660 --> 02:16:52,220 You would select. 1620 02:16:53,040 --> 02:17:00,000 When we had some early discussions in the kind of the program makeup Will and I and maybe John and 1621 02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:07,420 Kim and who else you know talked to potentially about trying to bring back some financial partners to help 1622 02:17:07,420 --> 02:17:15,720 fund the local program and potentially how you would the county may then participate at a 10,000 level and then 1623 02:17:15,720 --> 02:17:23,360 look to that community partner that's also contributing to our local program and offer this 1624 02:17:23,360 --> 02:17:29,280 as a kind of a care. If you come in at a certain level and buy down the cost of the local program 1625 02:17:29,880 --> 02:17:35,320 don't tell John Stark or Brenna but you can have a seat on the board for not having to pay 10,000 1626 02:17:35,320 --> 02:17:42,700 of your own platinum level but maybe 5,000 to our local program and you can have a seat or something 1627 02:17:42,700 --> 02:17:51,740 like that. Okay. So the question is do we want to continue at the $10,000 level to have 1628 02:17:51,740 --> 02:17:58,780 that? When is this decision need to be? I think the invoice is a calendar year invoice. 1629 02:17:59,380 --> 02:18:05,280 So we're approaching some level of tardiness. tardiness? 1630 02:18:07,470 --> 02:18:10,590 2025 dues. The invoice was created. 1631 02:18:11,030 --> 02:18:15,990 do we have a potential interest 1632 02:18:18,100 --> 02:18:26,570 in that that extra seat if we were to do 1633 02:18:26,570 --> 02:18:31,290 something like that through the program? I haven't heard anything but my guess is 1634 02:18:31,290 --> 02:18:35,010 we would if we offered it offered the opportunity to one of your 1635 02:18:35,010 --> 02:18:39,130 programs you know it could be one of your folks that you have pointed to the 1636 02:18:39,130 --> 02:18:45,770 local advisory group until per a year and see what you want to do kind of a yearly decision. 1637 02:18:47,510 --> 02:18:54,450 I personally think that continuing with this for at least another year, especially as we're 1638 02:18:54,450 --> 02:18:59,430 going through our strategic plan of our county and developing a strategic plan, I think it'd be 1639 02:19:00,070 --> 02:19:04,350 beneficial to continue this for another year and at least have another seat of the table 1640 02:19:04,350 --> 02:19:10,170 So to kind of help in our transition of implementing our, it comes down to implementing our strategic 1641 02:19:10,170 --> 02:19:11,070 plan for our county. 1642 02:19:11,330 --> 02:19:12,530 It comes to economic development. 1643 02:19:16,800 --> 02:19:17,700 Well, I 1644 02:19:22,240 --> 02:19:28,320 don't know, I'm torn because I'd like to, I'd rather say, I'm not going to take 1645 02:19:28,320 --> 02:19:33,160 that 10 out of the budget, but I'd almost say I'd rather have our program director having 1646 02:19:33,160 --> 02:19:38,720 some tools in their tilt tool belt to achieve with that 10,000 as opposed to having another 1647 02:19:39,380 --> 02:19:39,860 representative. 1648 02:19:39,860 --> 02:19:45,320 I mean, I think at some point that table's so huge, you know, it's the size of this room going around. 1649 02:19:45,780 --> 02:19:48,500 I don't know what another voice from this community is going to do. 1650 02:19:49,080 --> 02:19:53,980 I mean, the possibility of selling it, if you will, for half, you know. 1651 02:19:55,200 --> 02:20:03,620 But like I said, I'd kind of rather have, rent a half, an extra $10,000 that is in the budget for ancillary stuff. 1652 02:20:03,620 --> 02:20:09,520 You know, we've talked to general, we've talked videos, we've talked, you know, advertising, 1653 02:20:09,760 --> 02:20:15,980 you know, those types of things that would be a bigger picture of how we sell this community 1654 02:20:15,980 --> 02:20:23,160 to this county to outsiders, you know, as opposed to another, just another V voting member 1655 02:20:23,160 --> 02:20:28,660 who cares, that's true. I don't know. But what's, can I gas, can I ask, then you can do your 1656 02:20:28,660 --> 02:20:34,560 comments, too, but I mean, Rena, would you come up? What is the advantage disadvantage 1657 02:20:35,100 --> 02:20:37,060 in your opinion? Yeah. 1658 02:20:40,560 --> 02:20:43,720 Yeah, that's a really good question. And I think, you know what, 1659 02:20:43,820 --> 02:20:47,220 it really does, and I don't mean to give you the diplomatic response, but I think it 1660 02:20:47,220 --> 02:20:52,640 really does come down to preference. I would never argue against more tools in the toolbox, 1661 02:20:52,640 --> 02:20:57,960 so to speak. We also have a really great group at the local level on the local board, so 1662 02:20:57,960 --> 02:21:02,140 could see where that would be a great opportunity as well. But again, it really 1663 02:21:02,140 --> 02:21:05,900 comes down to preference, but like I said, I would never say no to more tools 1664 02:21:05,900 --> 02:21:12,280 in the toolbox. But we have you and we have Mark, no matter what. City has two 1665 02:21:12,280 --> 02:21:17,820 spots, am I correct? They have two. Correct, they have two. I guess my point is 1666 02:21:17,820 --> 02:21:22,960 that if we had 10,000, I'd rather go dangle that carrot out in front of our business 1667 02:21:22,960 --> 02:21:28,000 business, you know, our business is et cetera and say, hey, can you match us five on doing 1668 02:21:28,000 --> 02:21:33,440 this project or whatever, you know, and we have something to pull from, as opposed to, 1669 02:21:34,740 --> 02:21:38,580 there's nothing in the pantry, you know. 1670 02:21:39,520 --> 02:21:40,540 That's my way of. 1671 02:21:40,800 --> 02:21:48,380 We only have so much money in this area and is this money better suited to keep open 1672 02:21:48,380 --> 02:21:51,880 and ended for potential options. 1673 02:21:53,690 --> 02:21:55,190 Well, historically, we've never done this work. 1674 02:21:55,830 --> 02:21:58,770 I mean, literally, we have never been aggressive. 1675 02:21:59,270 --> 02:21:59,870 Yeah, you know. 1676 02:22:00,350 --> 02:22:02,750 So to have 10,000 to go get aggressive, 1677 02:22:02,750 --> 02:22:06,710 and then we've never leveraged that 10,000 to your business 1678 02:22:06,710 --> 02:22:10,590 community to say, hey, 100,000, whatever ends up being 1679 02:22:10,590 --> 02:22:15,210 versus going and warming a seat every so often. 1680 02:22:15,310 --> 02:22:17,550 And that's truly a testament to your work already. 1681 02:22:17,870 --> 02:22:18,950 I mean, this early on, 1682 02:22:18,950 --> 02:22:30,550 I am blown. I'm I'm crazy. Excited for any of them. Great job. Thank you. So are you so you're suggesting not even being a member at all? 1683 02:22:30,550 --> 02:22:46,930 We're a member. There was still a member. Correct. But we have representation with him as the head coach person. Yes. And we have not not an additional step at all. So like bronze, gold, platinum, you're not suggesting step down. 1684 02:22:46,930 --> 02:22:55,710 We're just doing the same, we have a program at 90, yeah, whatever, yeah, we've invested 1685 02:22:55,710 --> 02:23:03,790 a higher to be in the program, have the same representation we had, so we have put more 1686 02:23:03,790 --> 02:23:11,090 money in, but if we were to stay at this platinum level, we would have another seat, so we'd 1687 02:23:11,090 --> 02:23:16,070 But it would be a voting member, so Mark's a voting member, Brenna is not. 1688 02:23:16,630 --> 02:23:18,370 If I'm out of line, tell me. 1689 02:23:18,610 --> 02:23:19,150 Nope, you're correct. 1690 02:23:19,390 --> 02:23:22,230 So Mark is a voting member. 1691 02:23:22,750 --> 02:23:29,150 If you paid the $10,000 for additional voting member that dilutes the $98. 1692 02:23:30,430 --> 02:23:32,890 It doesn't dilute the $98 other votes. 1693 02:23:33,250 --> 02:23:33,910 Let's put it that way. 1694 02:23:34,130 --> 02:23:35,750 Any more than having just one. 1695 02:23:36,610 --> 02:23:41,570 is the savings, I guess, and put that money to work on the ground here. 1696 02:23:43,890 --> 02:23:53,230 With whatever potential you need, maybe, and so kind of put that in more of a contingency 1697 02:23:53,230 --> 02:23:59,790 or whatever, versus a local program, is what it is. 1698 02:23:59,790 --> 02:24:06,110 And then you build a fund, you literally, big vision would be to build a fund by going 1699 02:24:06,110 --> 02:24:12,590 to the folks that utilize it go mostly from this community and saying, hey, could you 1700 02:24:13,130 --> 02:24:13,950 chip in? 1701 02:24:14,750 --> 02:24:20,190 I don't know that any of them are on the advisory, but I think they would understand 1702 02:24:20,190 --> 02:24:25,990 the value that they would get out of it at that point if we have some seed money to start 1703 02:24:25,990 --> 02:24:26,270 with. 1704 02:24:27,290 --> 02:24:33,630 Yeah, I mean, we'll just say so that similarly the other small or sorry Asian say smaller, the more rural community. 1705 02:24:33,990 --> 02:24:42,050 So Crook County, Prainville, Sisters, they have their local boards function much in the same way as to kind of what you're describing. 1706 02:24:42,630 --> 02:24:45,850 So this is a conversation that we hear very often. 1707 02:24:46,510 --> 02:24:53,430 And again, I hate to give you guys the diplomatic answer, but I put that back in your cart and what you're thinking from that standpoint. 1708 02:24:53,430 --> 02:25:02,170 I will also mention being newer to EDCO in terms of the platinum membership, I am not entirely sure what that actually outlines. 1709 02:25:02,450 --> 02:25:06,150 I've been focusing primarily on the local board level, but I could get more information. 1710 02:25:06,790 --> 02:25:15,830 If you guys think that would be, or sorry, if you all think that would be more helpful and come back to whatever you think would help you inform your decision. 1711 02:25:17,950 --> 02:25:30,950 I agree with what Kelly has been saying, and if all of this is going to do is just provide $10,000 for the regional edco, and who watch more continued focus on Vend. 1712 02:25:32,230 --> 02:25:39,450 If this $10,000 can be more beneficial use here for you in Jefferson County, we always go that route. 1713 02:25:42,230 --> 02:25:46,190 Okay, we need a direction. 1714 02:25:46,410 --> 02:25:47,050 I got direction. 1715 02:25:47,130 --> 02:25:49,530 I'll communicate back to Mr. Stark. 1716 02:25:50,090 --> 02:25:50,210 Okay. 1717 02:25:51,230 --> 02:25:54,730 And then budget, you know what, do it that way. 1718 02:25:54,730 --> 02:25:55,250 It's the same. 1719 02:25:55,770 --> 02:25:56,630 Yeah, I think it's the same. 1720 02:25:56,630 --> 02:26:01,170 Yeah, just whatever we labeled out, we have a kind of a catch-all, lack of better term 1721 02:26:01,170 --> 02:26:07,830 and fund 250 economic development, which is then labeled economic development in this 1722 02:26:07,830 --> 02:26:08,390 year's budget. 1723 02:26:08,390 --> 02:26:10,750 There's over 300,000 that are located in here. 1724 02:26:11,570 --> 02:26:17,050 But I think kind of the yellow side thing on your Excel sheet 1725 02:26:17,050 --> 02:26:20,530 is that the message is that we're 1726 02:26:20,530 --> 02:26:27,030 steeply putting 10,000 aside as local program 1727 02:26:27,030 --> 02:26:29,410 assistance or enhancement or whatever. 1728 02:26:29,710 --> 02:26:30,130 Does that make sense? 1729 02:26:30,950 --> 02:26:32,550 Or do you not even need to do that? 1730 02:26:33,890 --> 02:26:36,690 I would say you get confused because if we 1731 02:26:36,690 --> 02:26:41,130 We have an ed code program line, and we try and put in the amount that we're committed 1732 02:26:41,130 --> 02:26:43,930 to for the IJA between the three cities in us. 1733 02:26:44,690 --> 02:26:50,350 And so to see that go to, for example, with 96 to 106, but then next year, the actual 1734 02:26:50,350 --> 02:26:55,750 is only 96, or it would fluctuate, I would encourage to stick it out of the economic development 1735 02:26:55,750 --> 02:26:56,190 line. 1736 02:26:56,310 --> 02:27:00,490 And if we get a pattern going, then we can look at another GL line. 1737 02:27:00,990 --> 02:27:07,650 Well, you'll have to have a catch all for if we got contributions from business from business 1738 02:27:07,650 --> 02:27:14,570 This is the intent which I really like was not in the room is that the city is now the fiscal agent so any any 1739 02:27:15,170 --> 02:27:20,130 When go through income with and yeah outside of the program would filter into the city 1740 02:27:20,130 --> 02:27:31,410 made me manage that. Okay, direction? Thank you, Brenna. Thank you, Brenna. And Ditto, so glad to have 1741 02:27:31,410 --> 02:27:36,770 you here. I'm excited when I had the opportunity to interview you and thank you're doing a great job 1742 02:27:37,410 --> 02:27:42,130 and look forward to what you're going to do over the next year. Thank you so much. 1743 02:27:44,630 --> 02:27:45,150 Okay. 1744 02:27:47,540 --> 02:27:52,460 Robert's there. Okay, Robert, you have a... 1745 02:27:52,460 --> 02:27:55,060 Department of Head update. Can you hear us? 1746 02:27:59,490 --> 02:28:01,550 You must hear us, but we can't hear you yet. 1747 02:28:06,900 --> 02:28:10,480 Not that great at lip reading, so we're still working on it. 1748 02:28:24,180 --> 02:28:27,020 More waiting, Jeff. Do you have anything else? 1749 02:28:28,740 --> 02:28:31,960 There's a report down. You might have to change your mic. 1750 02:28:32,320 --> 02:28:32,900 I do not. 1751 02:28:33,940 --> 02:28:35,140 whether report. 1752 02:28:38,850 --> 02:28:43,070 So you guys go through your reports and potentially then read the 1753 02:28:43,070 --> 02:28:50,790 read the executive session while Robert sees it. It is audio change. I don't know. I'm 1754 02:28:50,790 --> 02:28:58,630 having such memory loss. I can't remember what we talked about regarding Miller. What was 1755 02:28:58,630 --> 02:29:03,650 are what do we kind of Miller the discussion was to talk about that in the 1756 02:29:03,650 --> 02:29:07,750 executive session. Okay. Thank you. 1757 02:29:10,400 --> 02:29:13,580 Thank you. Okay. All right. Okay. 1758 02:29:16,540 --> 02:29:18,240 So Jeff is 1759 02:29:18,240 --> 02:29:25,860 good. Commission discussion. Is there anything commissioner Taylor? No, not 1760 02:29:25,860 --> 02:29:26,400 this week. 1761 02:29:38,680 --> 02:29:39,600 EOCA tomorrow. 1762 02:29:40,360 --> 02:29:41,020 It's been canceled. 1763 02:29:41,600 --> 02:29:42,220 Well it has been canceled. 1764 02:29:42,220 --> 02:29:42,340 Yeah. 1765 02:29:42,760 --> 02:29:43,260 Oh no. 1766 02:29:43,640 --> 02:29:45,200 Not with that update. 1767 02:29:48,760 --> 02:29:48,940 Okay. 1768 02:29:51,720 --> 02:29:53,220 And not rescheduled. 1769 02:29:53,500 --> 02:29:54,440 Not rescheduled. 1770 02:29:54,660 --> 02:29:54,760 Okay. 1771 02:29:55,120 --> 02:29:55,480 Thank you. 1772 02:29:55,560 --> 02:29:56,560 We're all out of the office. 1773 02:29:56,640 --> 02:29:57,320 You guys should get out. 1774 02:29:57,540 --> 02:29:58,620 Oh, there we go. 1775 02:29:59,160 --> 02:29:59,460 Gotcha. 1776 02:29:59,460 --> 02:29:59,820 Nothing. 1777 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:29,940 Thanks, Robert. We'll jump right into what you got for us. So, yeah, as you guys know, I, what you may have in front of you is just some changes that I'm proposing and structure. Two of the three positions have existed already, which are a week positions for which you and I'll just this officer excite in the adult side to my knowledge. The leads have been used. 1778 02:30:29,940 --> 02:30:35,740 this in about five to six years, our last lead on the juvenile side was Lacey Delacruz, 1779 02:30:36,340 --> 02:30:41,020 and then the adult side was Andy Pointer. Lacey is obviously the deputy director now 1780 02:30:41,020 --> 02:30:47,420 and Andy Pointer has left. I'm going to introduce the wanting to re put these positions 1781 02:30:47,420 --> 02:30:53,600 within the organization to just offer opportunity for growth with the staff that we currently 1782 02:30:53,600 --> 02:31:02,980 have an in-house. Both are, I would guess, consider a role so they're not new FTEs. They would be given to 1783 02:31:02,980 --> 02:31:12,940 officers that are already within the organization. Five percent raised for Out of County residents and 1784 02:31:12,940 --> 02:31:20,060 seven half percent raised for in-county residents. We would be, hopefully, with your guys as approval, 1785 02:31:20,060 --> 02:31:23,960 these would take effect June 21st of 2025. 1786 02:31:25,640 --> 02:31:30,680 I think some of the benefits for me would just be having that leadership 1787 02:31:31,440 --> 02:31:37,200 with more of the ground troops being able to just focus more on the vision 1788 02:31:37,200 --> 02:31:43,280 of terms of accountability for our quality of standards in terms of contact, 1789 02:31:43,280 --> 02:32:00,440 on visits, assessments, as you guys know, on the juvenile side we're seeing a lot of growth and on the adult side, the states changing a lot of their expectations of us in terms of standards, assessments. 1790 02:32:01,440 --> 02:32:11,020 Some of the things that I can necessarily put the attention I would like to have, so having an adult lead to be able to focus on those things. 1791 02:32:12,020 --> 02:32:18,620 And then the third part of the structure change would be creating a supervisor for the 1792 02:32:18,620 --> 02:32:25,520 adult side, and that would look like turning Lacey Dallacruz, who is currently deputy director 1793 02:32:25,520 --> 02:32:31,760 of just the juvenile department, two deputy director of both the adult and juvenile side of 1794 02:32:31,760 --> 02:32:38,600 things, part of that sugar would require her to become a certified adult for information 1795 02:32:38,600 --> 02:32:45,820 officer that would include her going to the academy for the six weeks. She would become 1796 02:32:45,820 --> 02:32:47,340 fire and police pose. 1797 02:32:49,920 --> 02:32:54,940 Jeff and I and HR have kind of talked about what the raise was. 1798 02:32:55,140 --> 02:32:57,880 If she would go from 29 to 30, 1799 02:33:00,750 --> 02:33:08,260 effective, if they've approved June 21st. Again, she would 1800 02:33:08,260 --> 02:33:15,400 most of her time, not most of her time, but it's a 60-40 split, 60 being juvenile, 40 adult 1801 02:33:15,840 --> 02:33:21,020 in terms of the FTE and then also in terms of how we would cover her salary. 1802 02:33:22,360 --> 02:33:29,440 I think the benefit to this is cost savings for the juvenile department or detention costs. 1803 02:33:29,940 --> 02:33:35,560 I hope to kind of offset some of that by moving over some of her costs to the adult budget 1804 02:33:35,560 --> 02:33:36,960 which is a little bit more healthy. 1805 02:33:38,060 --> 02:33:43,880 Again, creating that supervisor on the adult side, 1806 02:33:43,960 --> 02:33:47,120 what I'm at at the office, and also what I am there to 1807 02:33:47,120 --> 02:33:50,040 and being able just to have someone to collaborate 1808 02:33:50,040 --> 02:33:54,200 with more closely in terms of what we're doing on the 1809 02:33:54,200 --> 02:33:54,940 adult side. 1810 02:33:56,040 --> 02:33:59,200 And I think it's also just giving more incentive to 1811 02:33:59,200 --> 02:34:02,520 keep lazy around. She's been with the county for 17 1812 02:34:03,160 --> 02:34:06,060 years. And I think it's just continuing to help her with 1813 02:34:06,060 --> 02:34:11,320 career development, including more multimedia, so I'm 1814 02:34:11,320 --> 02:34:14,900 heard within the county. So I don't, I'm going to 1815 02:34:14,900 --> 02:34:17,340 rambla a little bit now, but if there's any questions 1816 02:34:17,340 --> 02:34:19,800 or anything I could answer, please let me know. 1817 02:34:20,520 --> 02:34:29,680 So you said June 21st for this potential change. Why June 21st, 1818 02:34:29,680 --> 02:34:35,360 rather than like a July 1st, and for budgeting purposes, I'm 1819 02:34:35,360 --> 02:34:38,100 sure it's not going to be payroll. Payroll. Payroll. Payroll. 1820 02:34:38,240 --> 02:34:42,640 Here it starts on the 21st. Okay. Okay. So what we use 1821 02:34:42,640 --> 02:34:46,560 those interchangeably, July 1st, June, really, June 21st. So 1822 02:34:46,560 --> 02:34:51,200 we try to make sure you guys know it would be the real 1823 02:34:51,200 --> 02:34:52,960 effective days. June 21st. But 1824 02:34:53,660 --> 02:34:58,440 Hey, Robert, are we in the first session of our 1825 02:34:58,440 --> 02:35:08,040 a biennial budget from the community justice funding specifically for adults. Are we in 1826 02:35:08,040 --> 02:35:10,540 the first or second year of that biennium? 1827 02:35:10,780 --> 02:35:11,760 The second year. 1828 02:35:11,900 --> 02:35:21,680 We're in the second. So the outlooks of the next, I mean you have reserves. You have lots 1829 02:35:21,680 --> 02:35:30,900 of accessible ways for the sustainability of this, I guess, in my point. What's the outlook 1830 02:35:30,900 --> 02:35:39,680 for next biennium? Well, I'm actually at OACD right now. We're just speaking on that and the 1831 02:35:39,680 --> 02:35:48,600 comments are AOC. Our BOCC has been very supportive of the growth of adult community corrections and 1832 02:35:48,600 --> 02:35:53,840 And they're the gaskin terms of what we received the last biannium to this biannium. 1833 02:35:54,220 --> 02:35:59,920 And it seems like we're getting the local support we need, we'll actually be going to 1834 02:35:59,920 --> 02:36:08,840 mart of the capital building to advocate for ourselves for an $18.18 for each adult 1835 02:36:08,840 --> 02:36:09,840 on supervision. 1836 02:36:10,780 --> 02:36:12,800 That's really back to your questions. 1837 02:36:12,800 --> 02:36:20,440 If approved, it would be a substantial growth in terms of what we would receive compared 1838 02:36:20,440 --> 02:36:21,820 to prior bionyms. 1839 02:36:22,280 --> 02:36:25,140 What are you at right now, so you said 18-18? 1840 02:36:26,120 --> 02:36:32,680 That's what they ask is, what we receive last time based off of our population that was 1841 02:36:32,680 --> 02:36:42,160 about 2.2 million, if given the full ask, which we know probably won't happen. 1842 02:36:42,160 --> 02:36:47,060 And it would be 3.5s by any. 1843 02:36:48,440 --> 02:36:52,980 So what's the breakdown for adult currently? 1844 02:36:53,360 --> 02:36:55,360 Wasn't it like 16 or 15? 1845 02:36:55,580 --> 02:36:59,380 I think you mentioned it here recently. 1846 02:36:59,840 --> 02:37:02,260 I think the people lower than that because it's 1847 02:37:02,260 --> 02:37:05,260 enough on a case study that was long before my time. 1848 02:37:06,400 --> 02:37:08,160 I don't know off the top of my head. 1849 02:37:08,160 --> 02:37:14,860 So you're basically asking to be fully funded over there and currently we're probably funded 1850 02:37:14,860 --> 02:37:18,100 per individual about 80% of what the actual cost is? 1851 02:37:19,400 --> 02:37:27,300 Yeah, I mean our budget I think is reflective of we're doing well. 1852 02:37:27,880 --> 02:37:33,700 We're working at a high capacity of the population that we have and staff that we have. 1853 02:37:33,700 --> 02:37:42,820 So even if not given the full budget, we would still receive approximately, if not more, 1854 02:37:43,000 --> 02:37:49,960 we would receive the last biennium because our population has maintained through COVID 1855 02:37:49,960 --> 02:37:56,900 where a lot of these other populations have dropped, we're still making up about 1.16 1856 02:37:56,900 --> 02:38:07,020 of the population in terms of people on supervision which is we basically have a higher population 1857 02:38:07,020 --> 02:38:13,020 of people on supervision compared to our general population of people in our county compared 1858 02:38:13,020 --> 02:38:16,940 to other counties which is the good and bad thing. 1859 02:38:20,280 --> 02:38:26,640 One question, tell me if I'm crazy but it seems to me I ran across something the other day 1860 02:38:26,640 --> 02:38:34,620 that they're asking, they might be coming back to asking us for another bite at that time 1861 02:38:34,620 --> 02:38:38,060 study. Is that, does that sound familiar to you? 1862 02:38:40,180 --> 02:38:46,540 Yes, because they want to do a new one to kind of get reflected. Sorry I'm walking around. 1863 02:38:47,760 --> 02:38:56,620 But yeah, they may ask so we can get more accurate in terms of what we're doing with people 1864 02:38:56,620 --> 02:39:02,060 before on the cost. But that serves me right. When we did that time study, they didn't use it. 1865 02:39:02,160 --> 02:39:08,660 They were like, ah, that's not good enough. Right. Right. They didn't. And so that's more 1866 02:39:08,660 --> 02:39:14,420 of some of the frustration like because it's showing, hey, this is how much it's costing to supervise 1867 02:39:14,420 --> 02:39:20,840 to rehabilitate someone because it would be huge amount compared to what we actually get in terms 1868 02:39:20,840 --> 02:39:29,560 So if the bite should, I mean, it would be a lot more kind of unrealistic compared to what they've approved and given us. 1869 02:39:30,000 --> 02:39:33,800 So yeah, it wasn't utilized, how we hoped for. 1870 02:39:34,640 --> 02:39:45,940 Well, I'm very supportive of this. I think this allows growth and obviously some opportunities to capture some of these out of a very strong adult side. 1871 02:39:45,940 --> 02:39:54,860 So I'd be I'd advocate for this change. Okay, it's a motion. Is it a motion? Do we need a motion? 1872 02:39:55,660 --> 02:39:58,400 Yeah, do we have a motion? 1873 02:40:00,440 --> 02:40:07,080 If you wanted to, you could make a motion to reorganize the community justice adult and juvenile 1874 02:40:07,080 --> 02:40:12,960 department as presented including the new job description of deputy director. 1875 02:40:12,960 --> 02:40:19,020 So moved. Second. Okay you got a motion and a second is there any further discussion. 1876 02:40:20,100 --> 02:40:26,180 So this would be given staff, excuse the ability to do all these things and then probably 1877 02:40:26,180 --> 02:40:30,680 getting a little more fine detail of what that's looking like. Is that the motion before 1878 02:40:30,680 --> 02:40:36,800 you would would implement it in June, June 21st as presented and what we would work with 1879 02:40:36,800 --> 02:40:44,440 Robert on going out for the recruitment for those two leads at some point. I know he would be 1880 02:40:44,440 --> 02:40:46,920 able to make an offer until we get closer to the Jew. 1881 02:40:50,780 --> 02:40:52,480 Any further discussion? 1882 02:40:55,120 --> 02:41:04,460 Paul is in favor of supporting the restructuring of adult and juvenile. Please state by saying 1883 02:41:04,460 --> 02:41:08,140 Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Motion carries. 1884 02:41:08,620 --> 02:41:10,460 Thanks Robert. Thank you guys here. 1885 02:41:10,560 --> 02:41:11,940 It should be bad. Good luck tomorrow. 1886 02:41:12,700 --> 02:41:13,740 And thank you. Bye. 1887 02:41:19,240 --> 02:41:22,180 Anything further for discussion today? 1888 02:41:24,960 --> 02:41:26,360 Just remember we're going to recess. 1889 02:41:27,040 --> 02:41:31,600 We are going to recess. So do I have a script council? 1890 02:41:36,330 --> 02:41:38,630 We're going to go in executive session. 1891 02:41:38,950 --> 02:41:41,550 Are we going to need to come back for any decision? 1892 02:41:41,550 --> 02:41:48,130 decisions. I do not see any need to come back to E. I guess if we do, we could always make 1893 02:41:48,130 --> 02:41:54,050 that decision tonight. That's true. Yeah, you're going to be recess until six. Yeah. We 1894 02:41:54,050 --> 02:41:59,650 are going to go into executive session. We will then recess for our six o'clock in Crook 1895 02:41:59,650 --> 02:42:05,070 and River Ranch. If there's any decisions that need to be made, we will do them there tonight. 1896 02:42:05,070 --> 02:42:07,950 I will read the script. 1897 02:42:09,550 --> 02:42:13,410 The Jefferson County Board of Commissioners will now meet an executive session to consider 1898 02:42:13,410 --> 02:42:14,750 real property transaction. 1899 02:42:15,090 --> 02:42:25,170 The executive session is held pursuant to ORS192.00.6602E, which allows the commission to 1900 02:42:25,170 --> 02:42:30,950 meet an executive session to deliberate with persons designated by the governing body to negotiate 1901 02:42:30,950 --> 02:42:32,350 real property transaction. 1902 02:42:35,060 --> 02:42:40,040 Representatives of the media and designated staff shall be allowed to attend the executive 1903 02:42:40,040 --> 02:42:44,600 session. All other members of the public are asked to leave the room. Representatives of 1904 02:42:44,600 --> 02:42:49,340 the news media are specifically directed not to report on any of the deliberations during 1905 02:42:49,340 --> 02:42:54,440 the executive session except to state the statutory section and the purpose of the executive 1906 02:42:54,440 --> 02:43:00,320 session. Specifically, the news media is restricted to reporting that the Board of Commissioners 1907 02:43:00,320 --> 02:43:09,560 met an executive session pursuant to ORS192.6602E to deliberate with persons designated 1908 02:43:09,560 --> 02:43:12,560 by the governing body to negotiate real property transactions. 1909 02:43:13,680 --> 02:43:16,540 No discussion may be made in executive session. 1910 02:43:16,720 --> 02:43:24,540 At the end of the session, we will recess and reconvene at our Cricut River Ranch meeting 1911 02:43:24,540 --> 02:43:25,920 at 6 p.m.