1 00:00:00,500 --> 00:00:07,980 Okay, good morning, Jefferson County Board of Commissioners. It is March 12, 2025, and it is 815. 2 00:00:08,540 --> 00:00:15,280 We're going to get started with our administrative session, which is our department heads, electeds, and 3 00:00:24,180 --> 00:00:35,900 So I feel like I gave a pretty good update last time I was here this is can you is this go through Lindsey can you hear me all right. 4 00:00:37,420 --> 00:00:41,520 I really don't have too much more to add we just swore in Brad Hamlin. 5 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,380 you're just came back to us to fill that ATV position yesterday. 6 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,320 Other than that, I almost said no report. 7 00:00:50,540 --> 00:00:51,400 I feel like it's just a chair. 8 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,620 But other than that, yeah, I don't really have too much more than that. 9 00:01:00,900 --> 00:01:02,180 Yep. Yeah. 10 00:01:05,940 --> 00:01:09,440 I lack of doing things for sure. But people 11 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,360 are going to prison. That's part of it. 12 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,820 didn't get some long-term stays out of the jail, so yeah, 13 00:01:21,980 --> 00:01:26,900 how was your conversation with the City of Maghars? 14 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:51,020 There hasn't been anything since, they really reached out. I was supposed to have a meeting with Chief Plumber on Monday, but I didn't make that meeting, so hopefully I'll catch up with him next week and get some more news on some of that. 15 00:01:51,020 --> 00:01:54,700 That may reach out to Will, figure out where they're at. 16 00:01:55,500 --> 00:01:57,900 And staffing wise, where you at. 17 00:02:03,140 --> 00:02:10,880 Technically, minus those LATCF positions were fully staffed on the patrol side. 18 00:02:11,660 --> 00:02:19,240 We do have one retirement coming up in May, and so we'll have to fill that position but 19 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,940 as far as the jail goes. I think we're still lacking one or two positions. 20 00:02:27,130 --> 00:02:27,810 Still recruiting 21 00:02:27,810 --> 00:02:31,310 on everything. Still recruiting. Still recruiting on the front office staff position. 22 00:02:32,270 --> 00:02:38,170 We got quite a few applicants for that. I think we were sitting around 18 applicants. Anything 23 00:02:41,410 --> 00:02:45,650 else? Any other questions? Yes. See you at the ranch. 24 00:02:50,330 --> 00:02:56,890 there's a lot going on but so I know some people are waiting on things. I promise 25 00:02:56,890 --> 00:03:01,970 I'm you're on my list but if you need something urgent call me. 26 00:03:05,590 --> 00:03:05,990 I won't 27 00:03:05,990 --> 00:03:08,110 elaborate on a lot of things going on. Good 28 00:03:11,020 --> 00:03:12,340 morning Phil. Good morning. 29 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,200 Community Development is rolling along. We're seeing a lot of permits and 30 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,900 applications coming in for single-family dwelling structures, 31 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:25,340 department that kind of thing. We have two staff notes I wanted to share with you. 32 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,460 Tony has been out for a bit. She's in the KDSRA via text that she'll be back on 33 00:03:29,460 --> 00:03:34,100 Monday, so I'm really looking forward to that. The other is our sanitary in 34 00:03:34,100 --> 00:03:39,600 Matt just informed me this morning that he has accepted a job and his last day 35 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:46,900 will be June 5th. So we've we've been proactive in terms of June 5th. Yes. So we've 36 00:03:46,900 --> 00:03:52,000 been proactive in terms of outreach on that, so we should be in a good place for that transition. 37 00:03:52,740 --> 00:03:57,920 And like I mentioned, I'm smiling because it's time to be back on Monday, and I can certainly use the help. 38 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,040 So, that's it. 39 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:10,480 Well, it's exciting to hear the increase in permits and activity, I'm sure it's going to continue to grow. 40 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:18,340 And I think we had mentioned earlier, keep a close eye on that, and if there is staffing 41 00:04:18,340 --> 00:04:23,300 needs, because I feel like it's going to continue to go increase. 42 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:30,260 Let us know ahead of time so we can maybe be proactive and not have a big gap in there 43 00:04:30,260 --> 00:04:31,660 where everyone's really struggling. 44 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:32,320 Sure. 45 00:04:33,740 --> 00:04:40,180 I'll be talking to Jeff and about it is I think we should be doing some forecasting on planning 46 00:04:40,180 --> 00:04:46,100 a little bit more there's quite a bit in play that we just need more coverage there and with that 47 00:04:46,100 --> 00:04:52,420 level of coverage is I don't know what the staff will be asking and talking about that as we as we move 48 00:04:52,420 --> 00:04:52,660 for. 49 00:04:55,730 --> 00:04:58,070 And have we have... 50 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:31,570 Much help as far as your desk for some planning projects or is that still in the process of contracted services. We have we have reached out and we've engaged two consultants. One has done some planning work in terms of applications, but the higher level, the more difficult stuff, neither consultant is available or kind of wanting to do. It's it's it's it's a tough fine right now. 51 00:05:31,570 --> 00:05:38,730 Now, we know how to do, it's definitely how to do a lot of it, but it does get to a higher level that it's just so complicated. 52 00:05:39,170 --> 00:05:48,070 It's something hard, but there is a little bit of help in play as you see things come in if there's something that you can relieve off of your plate. 53 00:05:48,590 --> 00:05:48,830 Yes. 54 00:05:48,990 --> 00:05:50,990 Give it to one or two of them. 55 00:05:51,510 --> 00:05:51,650 Yes. 56 00:05:52,130 --> 00:05:52,330 Okay. 57 00:05:52,770 --> 00:05:52,890 Yes. 58 00:05:53,130 --> 00:05:58,850 So we, the county has also engaged Dave Allen, Dave and Allen on a project or two. 59 00:05:58,850 --> 00:06:04,390 and so we're both using consultant at a level and then David Allen's playing role with something. 60 00:06:08,450 --> 00:06:10,530 Gabe, how's the budget process going? 61 00:06:10,870 --> 00:06:12,330 It's going well. Good morning. 62 00:06:12,650 --> 00:06:14,550 Gabriel Sleece, Jefferson County Finance Director. 63 00:06:15,530 --> 00:06:20,250 Yeah, I'm working hard at budget. I'm about three-quarters of the way done with it. 64 00:06:20,430 --> 00:06:27,050 I'm hearing up to present a draft budget to the County Administrative Officer and the Budget Officer, 65 00:06:27,270 --> 00:06:29,790 Commissioner Similink, so looking forward to presenting that. 66 00:06:29,790 --> 00:06:34,990 That had a good day of meetings with both of them as well as a few different departments. 67 00:06:35,030 --> 00:06:39,210 I think we worked through a lot of questions and concerns for those various departments 68 00:06:39,210 --> 00:06:41,790 and have those ones pretty mailed down. 69 00:06:42,390 --> 00:06:47,770 I will be sending out an email to department director shortly just reminding you dates for 70 00:06:47,770 --> 00:06:48,310 budget hearings. 71 00:06:48,310 --> 00:06:53,090 We're about a month out from that as well as those of you who have not submitted a budget narrative 72 00:06:53,090 --> 00:06:53,570 yet. 73 00:06:53,850 --> 00:06:58,250 I'll be sending you a template basically what you submitted last year so you can kind of 74 00:06:58,250 --> 00:07:00,430 build a budget narrative for this year. 75 00:07:01,470 --> 00:07:02,970 So be looking for that from me. 76 00:07:03,030 --> 00:07:06,010 I'll need that by the end of next week. 77 00:07:06,530 --> 00:07:08,130 So get that out. 78 00:07:10,050 --> 00:07:12,330 I am back to being fully staffed. 79 00:07:12,330 --> 00:07:15,650 I had some staff out with some sick families 80 00:07:15,650 --> 00:07:18,330 and then out at conference for the past couple of weeks. 81 00:07:18,330 --> 00:07:20,570 So it's been kind of light in the finance department, 82 00:07:20,890 --> 00:07:23,230 juggling some duties between the desks. 83 00:07:23,370 --> 00:07:25,610 But everybody's back and healthy now. 84 00:07:25,610 --> 00:07:28,830 So we're looking forward to the rest of the month of March. 85 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:39,420 Hi, good morning, Katie Russell, public health. 86 00:07:41,060 --> 00:07:45,160 Just working on budgets and work plans. 87 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,780 We have our TPEP work plan we turned in on Monday, so that was exciting. 88 00:07:50,580 --> 00:07:54,800 And then we also have maternal child health that's coming up 89 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,300 and an STI HIV plan. 90 00:07:58,300 --> 00:08:02,000 And so a lot of work plans, a lot of budgeting happening right now. 91 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:07,740 We're also starting to look to the summer and our outreach events. 92 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:14,740 So we have just a couple of things that we're hoping to do on a regular basis like every 93 00:08:14,740 --> 00:08:15,140 other week. 94 00:08:15,780 --> 00:08:22,020 And then just big events here and there throughout the summer. 95 00:08:22,260 --> 00:08:26,680 So we're starting to look forward to that and figure out how we're going to staff that 96 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:32,400 you know some of our plans and supplies and things so that's exciting. We're 97 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:37,160 heading to Jefferson County Middle School on Friday to do their career days 98 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:43,780 so hopefully we'll plant some seeds and some middle schoolers to become public 99 00:08:43,780 --> 00:08:49,540 health employees in the future. So now I became decided to become a nurse as 100 00:08:49,540 --> 00:08:56,060 middle school career day so hopefully something will happen there. So anyways that's 101 00:08:56,060 --> 00:08:56,480 for us. 102 00:09:01,300 --> 00:09:08,360 Kate Simke, county clerk. Earlier this week, we had our first key 103 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:14,280 meeting that stands for Property Values Appeal Board. We will be hearing two 104 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:19,080 petitions. The board will next Friday, the 21st. 105 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:23,960 Just preparing now for the 106 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:31,420 special district election. We have a total of potential 55 candidates. 13 of 107 00:09:31,420 --> 00:09:38,200 those candidates are shared positions from the Shoots County. So far we have 108 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:45,540 about 22 individuals who have filed for special district positions out of 42. 109 00:09:46,380 --> 00:09:53,840 So we're just kind of halfway there. I called or sent emails last week from 110 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,540 I'm mining the districts and I will do one more time. 111 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:57,860 That's Friday. 112 00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:59,980 The deadline is the 20. 113 00:10:00,530 --> 00:10:14,050 So, next week is the final. There will be four measures on the ballot, two measures relate to the MAC. One, the library is asking. 114 00:10:14,050 --> 00:10:25,950 have a levee and the Lake Chinook fire and rescue. Also, we'll be asking the public for money. 115 00:10:27,530 --> 00:10:35,990 In preparation for this election, we mailed out 119 inactive notices as a second reminder 116 00:10:35,990 --> 00:10:41,230 to those voters whose signatures we either challenged or who had a name changed. 117 00:10:41,230 --> 00:10:45,930 that was for the November election, it's just part of our routine process. 118 00:10:47,700 --> 00:10:55,010 We challenged 1.3 signatures, or 155 out of 12,000 voted ballots that we received. 119 00:10:55,570 --> 00:11:01,770 So we inactivate them, if they didn't respond, and then we give them another opportunity 120 00:11:01,770 --> 00:11:06,190 to remind them, we need an updated signature is really what we're looking for. 121 00:11:06,190 --> 00:11:15,510 And then, finally, but I would mention that the Secretary of State, as Reid will be 122 00:11:15,510 --> 00:11:18,990 stocking by, for a visit, April 14th. 123 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:27,660 And just a yearly kind of update and peace-to-face conversation. 124 00:11:27,660 --> 00:11:28,600 The right thing. 125 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,880 Generally, that's something that the new Secretary likes to do is visit all the counties. 126 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:48,760 So, yeah, the last visit I visited with the office and asked if it would be okay if we 127 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:56,800 had representatives from the PCP's come and they were very amiable to that, the previous 128 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:04,600 administration so I'll probably do the same here too and see if they would like some company, 129 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:12,680 like to meet a few more members of our community. That's it. 130 00:12:13,660 --> 00:12:14,400 Thanks, Kate. 131 00:12:15,300 --> 00:12:21,500 Good morning, commissioners. Matt Paulson, Public Works Director. So, in Public Works, we're busy with 132 00:12:21,500 --> 00:12:28,400 Recruitment still, still looking at different applications and working through that. 133 00:12:28,580 --> 00:12:36,280 We have started our wheat program sprain, so getting going with that, working on a hazard 134 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:42,320 mitigation grant through OEM, and we're up to about 9 million for the cove palisades, 135 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:51,400 So, just rock ball and different mitigation measures for the different geologic features 136 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:59,280 that happen down there, so hopeful on that one, but, you know, with OEM, there are some 137 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,080 uncertainty with funding and different things, but working through that. 138 00:13:02,540 --> 00:13:04,740 And that's focused down there at the coast. 139 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:09,400 Yeah, pretty much rimmed around from the boat ramp all the way to the other side. 140 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:16,220 And so quite a few miles of Jordan Road that was affected by rock ball on a regular basis. 141 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:26,520 So that's a deal with scaling, some netting, possibly, maybe some blasting, some of the 142 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:27,060 overburden. 143 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,200 So it's quite a large project of that time. 144 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,040 One thing with OEM, they're looking for a 25% match. 145 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:40,080 So, you know, finding a couple million dollars, I think we could probably partner with state 146 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:47,380 parts and plus we PGE, but I guess we'll just work through those details as things happen. 147 00:13:47,820 --> 00:13:50,020 But it's a pretty good project for us. 148 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:55,740 Also working on the capital improvement payment maintenance master plan. 149 00:13:56,140 --> 00:13:57,420 That was going well. 150 00:13:57,700 --> 00:14:02,820 So we're looking at all of our roads that have had deferred maintenance for decades and come 151 00:14:02,820 --> 00:14:07,620 them up with a plan to really address the issues that are happening with those roads. 152 00:14:10,020 --> 00:14:14,840 We're also working on that safety action, transportation safety action plan. 153 00:14:15,580 --> 00:14:20,220 So that one, hopefully, will have funding for it soon and put that plan into work. 154 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,740 Also working on the Ponybutte Paving Plan. 155 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:30,160 So that one's, we had them redesigned it, so we have a really good plan now, so I'll present 156 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:37,840 that to the board. Just present some options that we have with that road. Other than that 157 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:44,020 we're crushing rock or rock crushers have been humming so we're doing well with getting 158 00:14:44,020 --> 00:14:49,420 our stockpiles built back up. We're also grading some roads and fixing potholes and sign 159 00:14:49,420 --> 00:14:52,760 work so yeah things are going well. 160 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:59,580 What's one feather you know they came out with that 161 00:15:00,140 --> 00:15:21,320 That new round of funding with the Congressional Directorate's spending. So I reached out to our contact there and I can't remember her name. But she said, do not apply this year that we are still in the running. We're just waiting for the Oregon budget to pass. Once that passes, then the project will get going. 162 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:26,160 Well, 163 00:15:31,100 --> 00:15:33,200 I think once the budget gets passed, 164 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:40,620 and funding's approved and those projects that were selected, I think, you know, the ball 165 00:15:40,620 --> 00:15:46,600 starts rolling in. I don't know if we'll get to it, you know, this fall. I mean, it's 166 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:54,520 a possibility. Our plan, yeah. Our plan is done. I mean, we pretty much designed the new 167 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,680 bridge. We just need to get the funding and... 168 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:06,460 I guess, because I just was in a question from the situation, is it we would have to 169 00:16:06,460 --> 00:16:08,780 reapply for this money through the state? 170 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:09,880 No. 171 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:11,020 Through the feds. 172 00:16:11,460 --> 00:16:11,580 No. 173 00:16:13,340 --> 00:16:18,200 So our project was a portion, or it was approved. 174 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,000 I think you don't have to get allocated money. 175 00:16:23,660 --> 00:16:26,980 Yeah, I think they have to get the budget balanced and passed. 176 00:16:26,980 --> 00:16:31,920 the state. The state. That's what she said. She said state budget. 177 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:34,940 But you're 178 00:16:34,940 --> 00:16:40,280 talking possibly started working to fall. Is that what you said? If if it all came 179 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:46,480 together. I mean that would be the hope. Otherwise next fall once the water gets 180 00:16:47,100 --> 00:16:56,340 shut off. So 26. But where are we at with the bridge that got closed 181 00:16:56,340 --> 00:17:02,860 November, Eureka? Yes. We're still, I mean we shorted up, we shorted up and then did they get 182 00:17:02,860 --> 00:17:09,960 reinspected or how, what is that process? We got reinspected and everything is as it was with 183 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:17,840 the temporary shorting. Okay, okay. So we still have a weight restriction and it's probably a short-term 184 00:17:21,390 --> 00:17:27,810 allowance for that weight restriction. Yeah and they'll continue to monitor it, you know. They 185 00:17:27,810 --> 00:17:32,590 inspect our bridges every year, so it'll be re-inspected again. 186 00:17:34,650 --> 00:17:35,430 But with that 187 00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:40,710 temporary shoring, they said it could last seven years, ten years. 188 00:17:41,650 --> 00:17:47,770 We got a little bit of time. No. It's not immediate threat, but what that did is 189 00:17:47,770 --> 00:17:53,090 it put us in line, you know, the way bridges work, they go off a sufficiency 190 00:17:53,830 --> 00:18:00,590 So once it's determined to have no capacity, which this bridge did, it went from having 191 00:18:00,590 --> 00:18:06,450 several thousand pound load capacity to zero, or I asked them, can I write a bicycle 192 00:18:06,450 --> 00:18:06,970 across it? 193 00:18:07,030 --> 00:18:07,470 And they said no. 194 00:18:08,170 --> 00:18:11,670 They said close the road, and that's how severe it was. 195 00:18:12,090 --> 00:18:14,850 They said we're sending someone out to see if the bridge is still standing. 196 00:18:16,410 --> 00:18:21,370 And the bridge is in good condition, but just the way they inspect, the way they look 197 00:18:21,370 --> 00:18:26,630 look at the timber structure, what it's going to do is allow us to really move our application 198 00:18:26,630 --> 00:18:30,070 up as, you know, this is an emergency. 199 00:18:32,860 --> 00:18:33,520 So, okay. 200 00:18:33,900 --> 00:18:39,160 Well, keep that on our radar because I think it'd be good for us to go out and look at it 201 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:46,420 like we had talked about and see how valuable that bridge is or if we direct some more focus 202 00:18:46,420 --> 00:18:53,760 to other things or if that's a necessity and we need to make sure that that stays open 203 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:58,360 so I think it'd be good to go out there the three of us at some point this spring and 204 00:18:58,360 --> 00:19:04,700 take a look at it, assess it, if we need to reach out to the the neighboring community to see what 205 00:19:04,700 --> 00:19:12,660 the need is for that and just value that on priority this spring. So yeah. 206 00:19:16,140 --> 00:19:18,420 They are, but I think it's a ways out. 207 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:23,920 Yeah, I asked Josh Bailey at North Unit, you know, what if we just put some culverts 208 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:29,600 in and he says, well, you can put a couple of eight foot culverts inside my side and 209 00:19:30,780 --> 00:19:34,400 he wasn't real sure on the hydraulics, but he thought that might be an option. 210 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,900 But we just want to make sure whatever we do, it aligns with their master plan. 211 00:19:38,900 --> 00:19:45,500 We don't want to waste, you know, resources putting something in that they can't use when they do pipe it. 212 00:19:49,580 --> 00:19:51,520 Well, let's continue to talk about that. 213 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:58,060 Well, and I'm also just thinking of putting a whole new bridge and then they put a pipe in and... 214 00:19:58,060 --> 00:19:59,780 Yeah, well, it's recent, yeah. 215 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:09,340 Yeah, because the bridge is million and a half. I mean, why, why spend that resource if they're going to fight that? Yeah, that's all pins on when they're going to fight. Right. 216 00:20:18,260 --> 00:20:21,640 Where are you at with staff, Matt? We're down three. 217 00:20:24,060 --> 00:20:28,980 Mechanic and no, we have two mechanics. Two mechanics. Yeah, just three road workers. 218 00:20:36,950 --> 00:20:43,230 Great. Good morning, race to lease. Jefferson County assessor. 219 00:20:44,030 --> 00:20:52,370 Yesterday, I attended public hearing before the House Revenue Committee at the Capitol regarding House Bill 3518. 220 00:20:53,110 --> 00:20:57,830 As you know, this is relating to assessment and taxation funding. 221 00:20:58,270 --> 00:21:01,110 It was very well attended, standing room only. 222 00:21:01,270 --> 00:21:05,170 I estimate maybe 70 people in their many testimonies. 223 00:21:05,710 --> 00:21:09,130 The bulk of the testimonies were in favor of House Bill 3518. 224 00:21:09,130 --> 00:21:15,290 Interestingly, though, there were two opposed testimonies, and they came from the Special 225 00:21:15,290 --> 00:21:16,490 Districts Association. 226 00:21:17,470 --> 00:21:21,070 They want to get more information on some of the language in the bill. 227 00:21:21,810 --> 00:21:27,170 I think they're concerned about, well, all special districts are concerned about their 228 00:21:27,170 --> 00:21:27,410 money. 229 00:21:27,950 --> 00:21:32,830 They're usually single-purpose taxing districts, and they're really watching their nickels 230 00:21:32,830 --> 00:21:33,350 and their dimes. 231 00:21:34,470 --> 00:21:35,190 And rightly so. 232 00:21:35,190 --> 00:21:41,350 So I think we would invite them to the table, absolutely, to engage in the discussion and look at the issue. 233 00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:46,350 But overwhelmingly, the support was in favor of this House Bill. 234 00:21:46,590 --> 00:21:51,430 So I ask the commissioners, please support House Bill 35-18. 235 00:21:54,270 --> 00:21:56,170 Yeah, I think we got AOC. 236 00:21:57,010 --> 00:22:02,390 I don't know what it has to do with it, but I don't know at this point. 237 00:22:02,390 --> 00:22:11,150 That'll happen. There's plenty of bills out there. And so yeah, they know AOC's really had a focus on that 238 00:22:11,850 --> 00:22:18,670 and I'm sure the staff were there. Yes, AOC testified in favor. We all met at AOC's building 239 00:22:18,670 --> 00:22:25,370 and walked over from there. Yeah, well cool family event. Thank you for going over and being a part 240 00:22:25,370 --> 00:22:30,410 of that. I know it's important bill for only our county but counties across the state 241 00:22:30,410 --> 00:22:39,650 right trained to keep keep things floating and getting our reimbursements of the work 242 00:22:39,650 --> 00:22:44,870 that you do right. Well thank you for your support. Yeah. Good 243 00:22:47,020 --> 00:22:57,500 morning. Good morning. It feels like 244 00:22:58,100 --> 00:23:03,700 Are you guys receiving calls about VA cuts, about our office closing? 245 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:04,260 Okay. 246 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:05,620 We are too. 247 00:23:05,860 --> 00:23:06,480 Just think you know. 248 00:23:07,420 --> 00:23:12,440 So there's a lot of fear and panic out there with all the stuff I'm going to use. 249 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:21,200 So formally, I haven't received anything from OBV or VA about any cuts, okay? 250 00:23:21,420 --> 00:23:26,820 So whatever amount to share is just stuff I've gathered together to try to see what's 251 00:23:26,820 --> 00:23:30,860 happening it and so you know what's being put out there and why people are 252 00:23:30,860 --> 00:23:39,720 freaking out. So on the news and online you'll find that they're going to be 253 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:47,420 starting to cut it June 2025 this year, approximately 83,000 jobs and that's 254 00:23:47,420 --> 00:23:54,840 about 15% of the workforce. 30% of the workforce are veterans and half of those 255 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,020 veterans are the same that are employed by the VM. 256 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,100 90% of the gay workers are in the health care side. 257 00:24:03,020 --> 00:24:05,680 So they're looking to go back to staffing levels 258 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,400 at 2019 levels. 259 00:24:08,180 --> 00:24:10,300 The problem that people are concerned about 260 00:24:10,300 --> 00:24:12,300 is this is before the PAC-DAC pass 261 00:24:12,300 --> 00:24:15,020 where they open up health care to millions of veterans, 262 00:24:15,260 --> 00:24:18,400 they add in like 20 cancers to the presumptive list 263 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,060 for Gulf War, they add more presumptive to the aging 264 00:24:21,060 --> 00:24:31,180 large list, so they're worried that that's going to affect health care, and then there 265 00:24:31,180 --> 00:24:35,800 are people who are always, anytime anything happens, friends go and shut down who will 266 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,840 worry about their benefits, because they rely on those benefits to pay their mortgage 267 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,380 and support their families. 268 00:24:42,380 --> 00:24:51,900 So, the new VA Secretary of the Collins, he reports that they're getting recommendations 269 00:24:51,900 --> 00:24:57,600 from DOGE, but DOGE is not making the decision about the cuts that he and his staff are 270 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:58,920 making decisions about the cuts. 271 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:27,640 May is still saying that they're going to accomplish this without making cuts to healthcare, or to compensation benefits, or fetching benefits to veterans and beneficiaries, and that they're still going to hire for more than $300,000, sorry, $300,000, mission, critical positions, and the focus is serving veterans better than before, you know, in that, in doing so requires organization and change. 272 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:36,140 I do an interview he had and he is aware of outdated systems that I'm not sure if you guys 273 00:25:36,140 --> 00:25:40,600 know the part of the problem with the VA was in slow was the health record site is the 274 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,740 system they're using is over 30 years old. 275 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,660 They've been trying, they've been saying they're going to update it for the last 8 years and 276 00:25:47,660 --> 00:25:49,860 all this money that's been spent is still not done. 277 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:56,240 So he is aware of the outdated technology and says it's nowhere it needs to be. 278 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:03,740 So, you know, when people call the office, I'm just trying to assure them that we are still open, 279 00:26:04,140 --> 00:26:09,200 because people are surprised when they call and call the back or just like they say we're 280 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:16,720 closed. So I tell, you know, we're county employees, like I have no knowledge of us being 281 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:22,360 refunded or cut or anything like that, you know, and we're still proceeding on and, you know, 282 00:26:22,360 --> 00:26:25,800 So if anything changes with funding or health care, 283 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,060 anything like that, as soon as I know something definitive, 284 00:26:28,460 --> 00:26:29,060 I'll let them know. 285 00:26:29,540 --> 00:26:32,440 So I'm just telling them you can either wait it out 286 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,380 and see what happens, or if you're really 287 00:26:34,380 --> 00:26:36,900 that concerned about it, then you can contact 288 00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:40,260 the VA Secretary yourself, or you're nervous of Congress 289 00:26:40,260 --> 00:26:41,800 and tell them you're concerned. 290 00:26:43,060 --> 00:26:48,240 But I mean, other than that, I have no power 291 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,660 to control anything that happens at that level. 292 00:26:50,660 --> 00:26:59,740 So I'm hoping that we're going to see what updated tech, you know, and things are, you know, 293 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,680 going to run more smoothly with all of this, but I. 294 00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:11,250 So anyway, hopefully things will calm down. 295 00:27:11,550 --> 00:27:18,770 So on a different note, we are on the agenda for today for out-of-state travel. 296 00:27:18,770 --> 00:27:20,190 It's 8.3. 297 00:27:23,140 --> 00:27:29,460 The afternoon of March 26, OVB is asking to be on their interview of their panel 298 00:27:29,460 --> 00:27:38,540 for the training team, so I'll be unavailable during that time, but I mean I'll still be in 299 00:27:38,540 --> 00:27:46,640 the office. The welcome home veterans dinner is Saturday, March 29, 4 o'clock. That's in the doors 300 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:54,200 open their wrap up. That's the annual spaghetti feed. And Gabe, 301 00:27:56,810 --> 00:27:57,810 thank you so much for 302 00:27:57,810 --> 00:28:02,750 Julio. You guys have been helping me a lot with all these random people who are 303 00:28:02,750 --> 00:28:07,910 wanting checks now instead of paying by credit card can 3%. There was a lot of money 304 00:28:07,910 --> 00:28:12,150 that way so they've been having to cut quite a bit of checks for me lately with my 305 00:28:12,150 --> 00:28:17,030 grant money so I appreciate it and feel for the issue data. I emailed you guys 306 00:28:17,030 --> 00:28:22,830 last week, the tinier kind of playoffs, trying to project like what the population is going 307 00:28:22,830 --> 00:28:32,150 to be here and whatever. And then the gym and pool passes that I have with the grant 308 00:28:32,150 --> 00:28:38,930 money from OVBA. I have a few of those left and there's still probably about 20 music lessons 309 00:28:38,930 --> 00:28:48,430 on the left, joint plenoids, just put out their spring semester online, so, I'm sorry, 310 00:28:49,270 --> 00:28:50,930 that's all I got right now. Thank you. 311 00:28:51,410 --> 00:28:56,950 That's a great thing. Yeah, we can. 312 00:28:57,630 --> 00:29:01,670 I can wait. I mean, I would put back a lot this morning, I put a sign. 313 00:29:01,870 --> 00:29:05,310 Does Kevin have any other appointments that you can need to cover? 314 00:29:06,730 --> 00:29:13,210 No, I got to take care of it, but I made it back in time, so we're good, thank you. 315 00:29:13,570 --> 00:29:20,570 Well, thank you, Laura. I know it's definitely a challenging time with what's going on on the feds 316 00:29:20,570 --> 00:29:26,970 and even a little bit on the state side, so appreciate you reaching out to all your clients 317 00:29:26,970 --> 00:29:32,050 and settling their nerves a little bit. 318 00:29:32,050 --> 00:29:44,890 And I think a lot of what's going on, we need to be a little patient and trust that our federal government is going to take care of such an important role for our citizens. 319 00:29:46,290 --> 00:29:56,350 And so I think we promise them and great advice as if they do have concerns to reach out to their federal leaders and voice those concerns. 320 00:29:56,350 --> 00:29:59,670 because it's very impactful when it comes from. 321 00:30:00,050 --> 00:30:29,250 The veterans, and how it's going to affect their lives or their finances. So, if you need anything from us on that, let's go. I think we should. We're making public health. Get a message out to our veterans. I know that we're not covering more speed shots on the gay, VA, some, some issues there. 322 00:30:30,050 --> 00:30:46,890 to do a Joey press release to get some good messaging out there as far as why I have 323 00:30:47,660 --> 00:30:56,510 an update on the physical therapy. They are not taking VA matters. I think the veterans 324 00:30:56,510 --> 00:31:06,310 that had, you know, the authorization, I think, you know, there, at least in my case, you know, they received them through that authorization, and then, what's the authorization from them? 325 00:31:07,290 --> 00:31:10,850 So we were not able to resolve that issue, unfortunately. 326 00:31:13,930 --> 00:31:14,450 in the RSV shots. 327 00:31:14,450 --> 00:31:14,490 There's a lot of things to do. 328 00:31:14,490 --> 00:31:14,730 So... 329 00:31:15,570 --> 00:31:16,370 That's the... 330 00:31:17,610 --> 00:31:18,130 That's the... 331 00:31:18,130 --> 00:31:18,370 Oh, the game. 332 00:31:18,570 --> 00:31:19,210 That's the... 333 00:31:19,210 --> 00:31:20,030 The DCL. 334 00:31:20,370 --> 00:31:20,630 Yep. 335 00:31:21,290 --> 00:31:22,310 Well, I'll... 336 00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:22,710 I'll... 337 00:31:22,710 --> 00:31:24,670 what does my concern do you directly in the movie? 338 00:31:24,970 --> 00:31:26,610 I'll put it in the... 339 00:31:26,610 --> 00:31:30,050 Okay, yeah, because I haven't heard anything about... 340 00:31:30,050 --> 00:31:32,510 I'll have to check in the RSV shots. 341 00:31:32,510 --> 00:31:34,430 Well, I don't think it could be. 342 00:31:34,650 --> 00:31:35,670 Or, yeah, I think it could be. 343 00:31:35,670 --> 00:31:37,330 A code that China could be willing to run. 344 00:31:38,090 --> 00:31:39,550 There's not everything's free anymore. 345 00:31:39,670 --> 00:31:40,010 They're funding. 346 00:31:40,590 --> 00:31:40,990 Yeah. 347 00:31:41,470 --> 00:31:44,110 So, we'll talk about that. 348 00:31:44,250 --> 00:31:44,510 Okay. 349 00:31:45,230 --> 00:31:47,570 And then you're thinking maybe getting some posted. 350 00:31:47,930 --> 00:31:48,930 Well, I think there's some posted. 351 00:31:48,930 --> 00:31:50,590 Of course, constituents are, you know, 352 00:31:50,690 --> 00:31:52,210 the folks that she takes care of, 353 00:31:52,270 --> 00:31:55,690 those who wants to be alerted 354 00:31:55,690 --> 00:31:57,970 as to what their process is going to pull. 355 00:31:58,270 --> 00:31:58,950 That's why. 356 00:31:59,330 --> 00:31:59,450 Yeah. 357 00:31:59,510 --> 00:31:59,930 Here's why. 358 00:32:01,510 --> 00:32:05,470 I know what's like to say we're going down a rabbit hole, I don't want to go down so 359 00:32:05,470 --> 00:32:06,130 we can hold. 360 00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:06,770 Okay. 361 00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:09,010 Diane, come on. 362 00:32:09,530 --> 00:32:10,030 Good morning. 363 00:32:10,930 --> 00:32:12,710 Diane, how was all of the HR director? 364 00:32:14,930 --> 00:32:18,230 So we are going to view when it's gone on. 365 00:32:18,550 --> 00:32:21,670 In addition to our normal HR, it's going to be really fun. 366 00:32:22,750 --> 00:32:27,550 We have some of our program that's starting on June 16th and that's the program where we 367 00:32:27,550 --> 00:32:32,870 higher, I still feel there's a lot of change that we're in some kind of, 368 00:32:33,210 --> 00:32:38,390 either like a great school kind of program, college, or whatever. 369 00:32:38,610 --> 00:32:39,830 They're going on to something like that. 370 00:32:40,670 --> 00:32:43,550 So we're going to be reaching out to Madras, the program I school, 371 00:32:45,690 --> 00:32:50,530 and all the CSC campuses and other community colleges to see if there are kids 372 00:32:50,530 --> 00:32:50,910 going back. 373 00:32:51,370 --> 00:32:53,150 So I'm going to want to work with us. 374 00:32:53,150 --> 00:32:57,910 And then that starts on Jesus' feet. 375 00:32:58,990 --> 00:33:02,950 And then we are, we've been working on the Affordable Care Act 376 00:33:02,950 --> 00:33:06,130 reporting that was the issue contract saved by a sign 377 00:33:06,130 --> 00:33:07,330 of course, and I'm not sure. 378 00:33:08,490 --> 00:33:10,790 So I had to submit a $2,200 divorce to them. 379 00:33:10,970 --> 00:33:12,790 And so that was also been in and we're 380 00:33:12,790 --> 00:33:17,130 going to go free and go to care for the fidelity people, 381 00:33:17,210 --> 00:33:18,110 but that was a big vote. 382 00:33:20,030 --> 00:33:28,130 And then we had, and thank you, Gabe, for your help with, we had some, we've run some reports and we hope to sneak from the patterns. 383 00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:46,970 And then, working on a military memo policy that will help us putting some protocol in place for one military week and how we have benefits. 384 00:33:46,970 --> 00:33:52,410 We don't have anybody in that church right now, but I think it's really good to be. 385 00:33:53,790 --> 00:34:02,770 And then we are working with a public health restructure who is on that. 386 00:34:03,150 --> 00:34:09,410 And our state committee meeting is next Wednesday in the 19th and 7th Anniversary of this. 387 00:34:09,410 --> 00:34:14,630 And we just asked what we did inspections of all of our sites. 388 00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:18,750 So we're going to talk about that with the safety of the union. 389 00:34:19,930 --> 00:34:23,950 And then the other thing I want to mention is because the OAS supervise 390 00:34:23,950 --> 00:34:24,450 of trade. 391 00:34:24,770 --> 00:34:29,410 There's an opportunity for a supervisor training through CIS and that's 392 00:34:29,410 --> 00:34:33,170 where insurance general has a lot of research through that. 393 00:34:33,330 --> 00:34:36,350 So we can actually slide up with this very instance of training 394 00:34:36,350 --> 00:34:46,290 $30 and it's 10 to 12 on the 15th April 15th and then four they can go to the Dallas 395 00:34:46,290 --> 00:34:48,330 and it's 10 to 12. 396 00:34:48,630 --> 00:34:52,050 I'm sorry, 10 to 2 and I'm sorry. 397 00:34:52,050 --> 00:34:56,010 And it's kind of just a different overview of Supervisor, 398 00:34:56,770 --> 00:34:59,850 you know, really lives in laws and things like that. 399 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:08,500 So, if you guys have any supervise, if you want us on that, it's a great opportunity to 400 00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:20,280 be in the department, you know, there's a lot to all the directors. And I try to figure out 401 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,880 how I get back in a little bit more time, and I hit the envelope and then it's time to get 402 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,540 So I have to figure out how to get that to everybody. 403 00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:39,040 Morning, 404 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,300 Tony Anderson, Billings and Ground Stractors. Sorry for my tardiness. I'm running a little late this morning. 405 00:35:47,340 --> 00:35:49,780 I was hoping to be fully staffed by the end of the day. 406 00:35:49,780 --> 00:35:53,920 Okay, apparently he declined yesterday afternoon. 407 00:35:54,900 --> 00:36:05,360 So back to the draw board on that, so building, excuse me, building some grounds on continuing 408 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:13,240 to Miller Lumber, tear that building down, get all that debris hauled off, access control 409 00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:16,000 we got installed yesterday up and running at the jail facility. 410 00:36:16,340 --> 00:36:21,020 So next stop this can be for own probation, we got the panel plugged in and IT logged on 411 00:36:21,020 --> 00:36:27,740 and everything, so making progress with excess control panels, and then Hippie Joe's 412 00:36:27,740 --> 00:36:32,740 place, the property farm property on Birch and Clackamus. 413 00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:40,300 There was some garbage debris out there, we got cleaned up, we ended up hauling some 414 00:36:40,300 --> 00:36:47,500 material and blocking off that gate, so hopefully we'll limit that in the future, and then be 415 00:36:47,500 --> 00:36:51,960 hit the ground strong with the turf grass management, so grass thatch and 416 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:57,440 plugging that stuff so we've started to roll juniper hills part the grass 417 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:03,680 up a juniper hills park level that off so turf grass is a growing so yeah time 418 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:04,920 of year is easy season. 419 00:37:08,410 --> 00:37:11,810 Flags yeah they shoot I got that notification tracking 420 00:37:11,810 --> 00:37:18,010 number um yesterday I think it was her last night so yeah they're on their way 421 00:37:18,010 --> 00:37:22,170 Three flags are on their for three flag holes are on their way delivered. So 422 00:37:26,430 --> 00:37:27,050 More 423 00:37:29,380 --> 00:37:35,460 the cemetery about the fairgrounds. Oh, I hear about flag holes and flags 424 00:37:36,980 --> 00:37:38,220 Me too 425 00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:41,840 Thanks Tony 426 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,240 No report 427 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:46,920 The chair 428 00:37:52,220 --> 00:38:04,440 No, I just I feel like I'm I'm just really quiet up here. I feel like I should say but I try and reach out to you guys with questions as I have them throughout the week and so sometimes I'm here. 429 00:38:05,180 --> 00:38:11,820 Feel like all my questions have been answered so I don't have any further questions other than be patient. 430 00:38:12,020 --> 00:38:16,120 I know, you know, with the VA and everything you can reach out to the people. 431 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,980 There's a lot of concerns financially right now with a lot of different entities, and 432 00:38:21,980 --> 00:38:23,820 I just have been always cautioning patients. 433 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:30,140 I think that we have some business people in the White House right now, and they're just 434 00:38:30,140 --> 00:38:39,240 reconstructing their, you know, they're just going in and getting things revamped and everything. 435 00:38:39,660 --> 00:38:44,580 So just patients think that when they say that the disease is going to be fixed and better 436 00:38:44,580 --> 00:38:45,260 than what it was. 437 00:38:45,260 --> 00:38:50,940 I trust that it will be, so I just think that people just need to be cautioned with patience. 438 00:38:53,340 --> 00:38:54,580 That's it, it's all for me. 439 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:04,020 She said no more. 440 00:39:05,780 --> 00:39:06,520 There's your time. 441 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:19,000 I've probably submitted 10, 9, test loads in the last five, six days as well as on 442 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,540 the things that are practiced in general. 443 00:39:23,860 --> 00:39:28,840 They did interviews on the regional solutions for our area. 444 00:39:29,380 --> 00:39:33,880 They identified the candidates, the candidates most of us know, and I think it's really fantastic 445 00:39:49,060 --> 00:39:57,140 Thank you for your help with the letters, there is a bunch of bills that could positively 446 00:39:57,140 --> 00:39:59,980 or a negative way affect the county and so thank you for all your support. 447 00:40:00,750 --> 00:40:30,730 And the only thing I wanted to say was we had our meeting about strategic planning for the county, with Sarah. I can't remember her last thing. She was senior Wilson. And I thought that was really productive. Doing overarching kind of plan from the county base, which would pull in a lot of your guys' plans. I know Matt's been working on a bunch with his department. But kind of just getting every 448 00:40:30,730 --> 00:40:37,650 everything to fit in somewhat seamlessly and prioritize things and have a good vision 449 00:40:37,650 --> 00:40:44,950 for the future for this county and set some precedence of what's important to our community 450 00:40:45,620 --> 00:40:56,570 which will track with some of the finances we do have and the limited about that. 451 00:40:56,570 --> 00:41:08,750 So that process has been started and we'll keep going through that and bring bring more you guys in at a more in-depth level here shortly with that. 452 00:41:09,110 --> 00:41:20,010 The other thing is, quick to have a ranch tonight. I think Sheriff's going to be there. What's are you going on going? 453 00:41:23,630 --> 00:41:34,570 I think Matt's playing on going. Tony is playing on going. So I think do we have some discussion later on of topics? 454 00:41:42,450 --> 00:41:43,570 Okay, okay. 455 00:41:45,890 --> 00:41:58,380 Well, okay. Well, thank you for coming tonight. I know they're important topics. So that can be me. So yeah, Phil. 456 00:42:00,580 --> 00:42:04,860 I'm not sure if you have any questions about that. 457 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,920 We were required to send out a notice on the set and five people. 458 00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:12,860 I'm sure if you have any questions about the set and the position, 459 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,900 I'm just going to go to the point where it's going to be a good question. 460 00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:17,880 It's okay to share. 461 00:42:18,620 --> 00:42:22,940 The rest is actually back at the base of that, but... 462 00:42:26,300 --> 00:42:26,820 Okay. 463 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:50,150 Yeah, anything else? Okay, well thank you all and I hope you guys have a good day. 464 00:43:01,790 --> 00:43:07,650 Okay, good morning. Welcome back from our administrative session. If I could have everyone 465 00:43:07,650 --> 00:43:09,870 please stand for the political legions. 466 00:43:15,850 --> 00:43:21,650 The political legions to the flag of the United States and America and to the Republic 467 00:43:21,650 --> 00:43:29,150 for which it stands one nation under God and indivisible with liberty and justice for the 468 00:43:30,510 --> 00:43:31,970 morning there. Good morning there. 469 00:43:33,350 --> 00:43:34,830 Would you join me in prayer this morning? 470 00:43:35,330 --> 00:43:39,050 Dear Heavenly Father, we just want to thank you for your provision for all the things 471 00:43:39,050 --> 00:43:43,210 that we do in this land and God we ask for the people that you would bring peace 472 00:43:43,210 --> 00:43:48,170 and unity of the people of our land and God that you would give us the opportunity 473 00:43:48,170 --> 00:43:53,290 to prosper in this land and so Lord is our county leaders are making decisions 474 00:43:53,690 --> 00:43:57,230 on our behalf. I pray that you would give them wisdom and God do 475 00:43:57,230 --> 00:44:01,650 also give them favor once they've made those decisions. So thank you for everything, thank 476 00:44:01,650 --> 00:44:05,670 you for all these people being here to represent. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. 477 00:44:13,340 --> 00:44:19,500 Okay, so we are going to get started with public comment and it looks like we got quite a 478 00:44:19,500 --> 00:44:26,020 few people in the room. So if we can keep everything to three minutes, if there's any reason 479 00:44:26,020 --> 00:44:32,820 why you need more than that, please let me know, but let's try and keep things to three minutes 480 00:44:34,460 --> 00:44:40,160 with all the people that may want to talk. So who is first? 481 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:44,400 No one? 482 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:46,260 Online? 483 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:59,980 Come on up, come on. I'm aware of the historical society, so we'll give you three 484 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,220 Three minutes and five seconds. 485 00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:24,900 We're coming, so we'll definitely give you a little bit more time. I think we've been working on some of this for a while. I'm going to appreciate you guys coming and kind of giving us an update on where you're at. Ready? 486 00:45:47,340 --> 00:45:51,800 Do we go? Yeah. Go ahead. Please state your name for the record, please. My name is Tony Ahern. 487 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,400 and representing the Jefferson County Historical Society. 488 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,000 My name is Tom Matting, also with the Historical Society. 489 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,540 And we were here a couple of months ago back in December, 490 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,980 regarding the potential of the county, 491 00:46:08,140 --> 00:46:11,620 potentially partnering with us to establish a museum 492 00:46:11,620 --> 00:46:15,780 at the historic Methodist Church in Madders. 493 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,720 We brought the idea before the board back in December 494 00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:25,940 as we had a closing date, because we've made an offer to purchase that church building. 495 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:32,220 So we had to kind of rush it to get here before you, because we don't feel we can move forward 496 00:46:32,220 --> 00:46:39,260 without partnership with the county. And since that December meeting, we've had the building 497 00:46:39,260 --> 00:46:46,480 thoroughly inspected, and have some local contractors come in to give us assessments, and we've come away 498 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:51,420 They even more committed to the idea that the building would make an excellent local museum. 499 00:46:52,860 --> 00:46:58,240 Another evolution we've had since we've talked to you is that as an organization we've 500 00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:05,360 decided we wanted to move very frugally with it and kind of do our remodel in phases and 501 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:10,560 with phase one being things we needed to do just to get open and some of the basics. 502 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:17,820 And we were also asked by the commissioners back in December for information about what 503 00:47:17,820 --> 00:47:26,520 other counties comparable in size and population in their rural settings and what those counties 504 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:33,120 do for local museums and we've come up with a report on that that we've had and it's in 505 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,720 back it as well. And so that brings us to today. 506 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,060 We've also, after December, Commissioner 507 00:47:42,060 --> 00:47:47,860 Wunch volunteered or was assigned to work with us and he's met with us a couple of times 508 00:47:47,860 --> 00:47:53,840 and he's kind of helped keep us on track. It certainly hasn't made any commitments at 509 00:47:53,840 --> 00:48:01,480 all for you guys, unfortunately. But I know my place. Yeah, he's been very helpful and has 510 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:02,480 to help keep us on track. 511 00:48:03,300 --> 00:48:05,300 And we've come up with this presentation. 512 00:48:05,860 --> 00:48:08,140 It hasn't changed much from December, 513 00:48:11,340 --> 00:48:15,520 but anyway, we hope that we could go over it a little bit. 514 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:23,500 Again, we're hoping for it's a 6,000 square foot building. 515 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,540 We're looking to remodel just the upstairs. 516 00:48:27,540 --> 00:48:28,820 It's a two-story building. 517 00:48:28,820 --> 00:48:39,000 We're the first phase to get going. We're targeting the upstairs and our current contract 518 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:46,820 hasn't changed except for the extension date and it's for $300,000, $200,000 at closing 519 00:48:46,820 --> 00:48:50,020 plus $100,000 within the next two years. 520 00:48:53,400 --> 00:49:05,800 And what we're hoping to do, we have kind of a budgeted target of 300,000 to 325 for first phase remodeling. 521 00:49:06,660 --> 00:49:09,340 So try to hustle through this. 522 00:49:11,140 --> 00:49:17,880 So basically on page two, skip to what we're here for is the request to the county. 523 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:23,160 What we're hoping for is one time $400,000 commitment. 524 00:49:23,780 --> 00:49:27,860 $200,000 would be towards the purchase of the building and 525 00:49:27,860 --> 00:49:32,020 another $200,000 would be a kickstart to our remodel fund. 526 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:39,500 And the Historical Society, we're happy and eager to contribute $100,000. 527 00:49:40,620 --> 00:49:44,020 We love to be able to do all of it, but that's what we can afford. 528 00:49:44,020 --> 00:49:49,880 And we are eager to put in $100,000 to the purchasing fund. 529 00:49:52,940 --> 00:49:59,740 And along with that, what we are hoping for is the county's commitment for $100,000. 530 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:12,760 Annually, for a period of time, first ability, our sustainability, I should say, for an annual commitment to help us with staffing and other expenses. 531 00:50:16,330 --> 00:50:31,810 But one thing I was thinking, if the county could commit to $200,000 to the purchase, if they could do another $200,000 for the remodel, and if they could commit to that $100,000 a year sustainability. 532 00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:40,970 Over six years that would be a $1 million commitment to our local museum, to local history, and our culture. 533 00:50:42,650 --> 00:50:50,930 And that would help us immensely on getting grants, because grants is going to be the other foundation that we have. 534 00:50:52,510 --> 00:50:59,270 And every grant provider requires local buy-in, and that would just be it for us. 535 00:50:59,270 --> 00:51:02,630 If you guys doing that, you know, we could move forward very strong. 536 00:51:05,310 --> 00:51:13,230 And if you have the, we're obviously we have an open yet, but we do have budget estimates 537 00:51:13,230 --> 00:51:23,050 and we're looking at, you know, frugally a $200,000, $205,000 revenue streams for the year, 538 00:51:23,490 --> 00:51:27,970 and see annual expenses eats that almost up. 539 00:51:27,970 --> 00:51:40,000 So, and of course, obviously, these are just projections, you know, a year away or so from opening, but you can see that the county's $100,000 commitment is vital to us. 540 00:51:42,570 --> 00:51:50,650 You know, grant programs we target, there's a lot of local grants being foundation, roundhouse is based out of sisters. 541 00:51:51,830 --> 00:51:57,170 We will be going after these people, they'd be a constant effort for us. 542 00:51:57,910 --> 00:52:08,230 What we depend on at $100,000 from the county, or some kind of structure to where the county helps us pay for a director. 543 00:52:08,730 --> 00:52:15,750 And that director would be spending a lot of his or her time looking for grants and keeping us financially. 544 00:52:15,750 --> 00:52:16,930 The 545 00:52:19,720 --> 00:52:26,040 other, you know, ideas we have moving forward financially is work hard with local corporations and businesses. 546 00:52:28,300 --> 00:52:32,100 But, you know, we're confident that we could move forward with this. 547 00:52:32,380 --> 00:52:36,080 And one thing we think it's important too is our organization. 548 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,180 The Historical Society has been around for 50 years. 549 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,880 And we had a museum back in the 1970s. 550 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:51,780 Yeah, the 1970s, the 1990s and had to close when it was at the old courthouse due to structural issues. 551 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:59,680 And since then there's been at least three major efforts to bring another museum to town. 552 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:07,060 And they've all kind of fell apart without really through any fault of the historical society. 553 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:15,500 I'm not sure there's very few historical societies in the state of Oregon that can financially 554 00:53:15,500 --> 00:53:16,880 handle their own museum. 555 00:53:17,100 --> 00:53:21,480 They all need help in the local entity, like usually the counties. 556 00:53:24,860 --> 00:53:29,260 So we're certainly not a fly-by-night organization that's asking for your help. 557 00:53:29,380 --> 00:53:30,700 We've been around for a long time. 558 00:53:30,700 --> 00:53:35,160 And we have the equipment or the exhibits ready to go. 559 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:41,250 So we think we'll be a good partner. 560 00:53:42,670 --> 00:53:47,550 In the last part of the presentations and trying to speed through this, I might make 561 00:53:47,550 --> 00:53:48,370 three minutes. 562 00:53:50,430 --> 00:53:52,010 I think you're passed, but good job. 563 00:53:52,590 --> 00:53:58,720 Anyway, the last couple of pages is our report, the counties, I think we have about 11 or 564 00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:05,700 12 of them here that have the various ways, the different counties that are comparable 565 00:54:05,700 --> 00:54:12,740 to Jefferson contribute and partner with their, for their local museum operations. 566 00:54:14,260 --> 00:54:19,560 You know, it's pretty impressive, basically every county is involved. 567 00:54:21,180 --> 00:54:28,700 You know, I think right now Jefferson County gives us $10,000 a year, which is appreciate 568 00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:36,860 I believe at one point, when we were looking at opening a museum at Westside, the budget line item got kicked up to 30. 569 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,880 And but only if we had a museum to operate. 570 00:54:41,820 --> 00:54:44,440 So, so we're hoping we can go from 30 to 100. 571 00:54:45,700 --> 00:54:48,800 And we think that lines up well with these other counties. 572 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,540 You know, we think we're a healthier county. We have more tourists than a lot of these counties. 573 00:54:56,220 --> 00:54:57,520 So yeah, there we are. 574 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:27,700 Any questions or anything you guys want to throw in? Yeah, so just a little bit. I, to my fellow commissioners, I wanted to bring the historical society kind of just to get updated where they're at. Mainly after the building inspection and the mean with the contractor just to see where this building lies as far as structural and all that. And I spoke with the contractor one-on-one. 575 00:55:27,700 --> 00:55:32,000 and thought the bones were really good about building. 576 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,200 There is some work that needs to be done, 577 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,160 but there's not a huge issue. 578 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,700 The local contractor also mentioned, 579 00:55:43,460 --> 00:55:46,960 I think something that intrigues this group 580 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,800 is the history of the building itself, 581 00:55:50,300 --> 00:55:51,620 and how fitting that is. 582 00:55:52,780 --> 00:55:57,400 So yeah, mainly I just wanted the group to update you 583 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,600 kind of bring you up to speed with some of the conversation. 584 00:56:01,260 --> 00:56:12,740 It is a big ass financially, and that's what I told the group, and that's a lot for the 585 00:56:12,740 --> 00:56:21,540 county to take on, but I think there's conversations of where we want to be as a county to help because 586 00:56:21,540 --> 00:56:27,280 you are a great organization, and I think we are probably one of the only counties that 587 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:34,340 doesn't have any kind of museum, and in today's society history sometimes just falls off 588 00:56:34,340 --> 00:56:45,620 and it's an important piece to value where we've been as a society, and remember that, and 589 00:56:45,620 --> 00:57:14,180 and some of the education, whether it's with the schools or tourists, it's a valuable piece and we do have a rich history in this county and at what level can we help? I don't know, but appreciate the update and would like to work towards some kind of process to kind of help keep things going and especially with the direction of these two. 590 00:57:14,180 --> 00:57:23,160 But more if you guys have any questions of specifics of funding, what their vision is, 591 00:57:24,020 --> 00:57:28,380 I kind of wanted to open up to you guys to direct anything to them. 592 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:34,740 If you want to have them do any research or work or whatnot. 593 00:57:35,620 --> 00:57:41,720 So my question is, and my concern is, is I know that you guys are set on this building, 594 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:51,520 but dumping $500,000 into renovating this building couldn't I'm looking at the 595 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:57,240 fairgrounds has two historical buildings on site is there a benefit to 596 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:02,780 pursuing grants and to building a new facility in that area where the public 597 00:58:02,780 --> 00:58:09,400 already is familiar with and people already go so especially as the fairgrounds 598 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:17,000 complex is doing more outreach and having more venues throughout the year, is that not 599 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,940 a better location to build a building that can be more visible in the public? 600 00:58:22,580 --> 00:58:28,880 The fact we went down that road for about a year working with Fair Board, and it was 601 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:29,660 a good relationship. 602 00:58:30,460 --> 00:58:37,980 We talked about doing a joint structure like an event center on one side in our museum 603 00:58:37,980 --> 00:58:43,020 on the other, but it got to where I'm thinking that was going to be $4 million, you know, 604 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:47,920 when you were $3.5 or $5 million. And you know, when you talk about building a brand 605 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:55,200 new building and everything, that would have to go in at that. So, you know, when you think 606 00:58:55,200 --> 00:59:03,420 about those kind of dollars versus $500,000, you know, again, that's what we want to be 607 00:59:03,420 --> 00:59:07,000 for, but we want to do things that we can afford. 608 00:59:08,460 --> 00:59:12,360 Yeah, there are pluses and minuses about being at the fairgrounds. 609 00:59:12,580 --> 00:59:18,400 Because there, maybe you guys looked into getting any partners, like say reach out to 610 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:26,320 Warm Springs and see if a portion of the building can be utilized to display 611 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:30,980 Warm Springs and there could be some funding opportunities from them as well to contribute. 612 00:59:30,980 --> 00:59:38,740 At this point, we haven't looked at anybody for interior museum operations since we don't 613 00:59:38,740 --> 00:59:39,340 have one yet. 614 00:59:39,620 --> 00:59:44,380 That's the kind of thing, though, that as soon as we have the building secured in a 615 00:59:44,380 --> 00:59:48,160 hard plan, that's when we go hard at partners. 616 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:57,680 And partners are going to want to see what we've done, what's behind us at this end as well. 617 00:59:58,660 --> 00:59:59,980 I'd like to just... 618 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,560 Kind of echo some of the things that Commissioner once said. You know, museums are important. They tell us who we were. They tell us who we are. And, and it also is a community a sense of where we're headed. It's, I'd say it's as important an organ to the community as schools and libraries or the stores downtown in terms of. 619 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,120 letting people, you know, take pride in their community. 620 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:41,060 And so I really, you know, I just like to see us move forward. 621 01:00:41,060 --> 01:00:44,700 And again, you know, the big part of moving forward is 622 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:49,600 showing to, I mean, we are part of the Oregon Cultural Trust. 623 01:00:49,860 --> 01:00:52,920 The museum already is connected with it. 624 01:00:54,100 --> 01:00:57,860 But in order to get some return from those organizations, 625 01:00:57,860 --> 01:01:03,980 They really need to see what, you know, how is the rest of the community standing behind us? 626 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:12,200 And I think that shows up in some of these other counties, how they are funded. 627 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,880 They get, they all say they get grants, but a lot of it, you know, 628 01:01:16,940 --> 01:01:22,000 the basis for that is showing that they have local community support from governmental agencies. 629 01:01:23,700 --> 01:01:36,850 So basically what I'm getting down here is you're asking the county for 1.4 million over the course of six years 400,000 now and then a million or six years. 630 01:01:38,270 --> 01:01:46,890 For now, well, two towards the purchase of the building, two towards the kick start 631 01:01:46,890 --> 01:01:49,790 are remodeling, so that's four total. 632 01:01:50,370 --> 01:01:56,650 And then when I mentioned it, and then 100,000 a year for sustainability, and what I said 633 01:01:56,650 --> 01:02:02,570 as a pivot was, if you'd committed for six years, that would be a million total over six 634 01:02:02,570 --> 01:02:02,930 years. 635 01:02:05,550 --> 01:02:13,330 I know just on a lot of these other counties they have bonds that are helping to fund 636 01:02:13,330 --> 01:02:13,510 it. 637 01:02:14,210 --> 01:02:15,250 Also TRT funds. 638 01:02:15,650 --> 01:02:23,470 If you guys thought about going out for a bond at all, my biggest concern is it's 639 01:02:23,470 --> 01:02:28,810 a lot to ask financially and I would love to know where our constituents are on this 640 01:02:28,810 --> 01:02:29,250 issue. 641 01:02:29,250 --> 01:02:46,890 You know, when you're talking about, you know, over the next six years, the tap of an officer's position is this at a level right now when we are trying to fund staff at various levels in the county. 642 01:02:46,890 --> 01:02:50,710 Is this something that our community wants now or in five years. 643 01:02:50,710 --> 01:03:00,310 I'd really like to be able to see where our constituents are on this and but once again 644 01:03:00,310 --> 01:03:04,950 I'm bringing it back to a bond I know you know I mean there's some significant 645 01:03:05,770 --> 01:03:08,950 numbers here in some of these other counties that are that are funded through bonds 646 01:03:08,950 --> 01:03:16,170 is that something that you guys have thought about or I would say the plan the loose plan 647 01:03:16,170 --> 01:03:25,770 is to open, establish, be a good museum, and then go ask the county, what do you think of us, do you want us to keep us here or not? 648 01:03:26,610 --> 01:03:32,170 But I think if we have nothing to show them, then that would be a hard vote. 649 01:03:34,370 --> 01:03:45,050 I, you know, my guess is, although, like, Crick County, I would assume that they were all established before they got the local support for a bond. 650 01:03:45,470 --> 01:03:51,390 But that's definitely what we would, our goal and our hope, would be to establish a bond. 651 01:03:51,390 --> 01:04:00,590 And so a commitment of $100,000 a year for the next six years, and then also the building, 652 01:04:01,210 --> 01:04:04,170 being that it's an old structure. 653 01:04:04,890 --> 01:04:06,950 And there's going to be continued maintenance on it. 654 01:04:07,070 --> 01:04:09,790 Is that something that the county would be financially obligated for? 655 01:04:10,150 --> 01:04:10,810 Or is that? 656 01:04:11,810 --> 01:04:13,550 I would think we've talked about this. 657 01:04:13,930 --> 01:04:17,410 You know, if the county wanted to buy it, then the county would maintain it. 658 01:04:17,410 --> 01:04:21,130 But our take is if you just help us buy it, 659 01:04:21,170 --> 01:04:22,130 then that's on us. 660 01:04:23,190 --> 01:04:25,510 But that's another negotiation thing, 661 01:04:25,750 --> 01:04:28,850 like maybe say, who knows? 662 01:04:29,210 --> 01:04:31,030 But I mean, like if the county would say, 663 01:04:31,150 --> 01:04:34,030 well, we'll give you say 75,000 a year, 664 01:04:34,170 --> 01:04:36,590 but we will maintain your building or whatever. 665 01:04:37,790 --> 01:04:40,950 If you guys decide you want to go forward to us, 666 01:04:41,030 --> 01:04:43,190 then we can kind of work out the details. 667 01:04:43,190 --> 01:04:55,810 Okay, and then also on staff and you know helping you $100,000 a year and you know $189,000 what is $120 668 01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:59,720 ,000 for staffing 669 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:28,720 If these grants don't go through or a bond doesn't go through in six years, are we going to be asked to continue this? 100,000? I mean, is it going to be a perpetuity? Is it going to be? I'm just, my mind's just going to go into that room. You know, that's hard to predict. You guys may, we may be so awesome. Hey, let's give you 200,000 a year or we may have a really poor museum. We're done. 670 01:05:29,260 --> 01:05:32,780 We would gamble on ourself to say that you would be happy with this. 671 01:05:33,420 --> 01:05:34,960 But it's hard to say in six years. 672 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,900 Hopefully we'd have a bond that you guys can step away from. 673 01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:44,880 Just curious on the lease that we have, 674 01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,100 but we're on Fifth Street or whatever. 675 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:48,900 How long was that? 676 01:05:49,140 --> 01:05:49,860 How long was that lease? 677 01:05:50,300 --> 01:05:51,220 I don't know, Laudie. 678 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:51,740 You know? 679 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:52,880 It's been a month and a half. 680 01:05:55,780 --> 01:06:00,000 What is your timeline on your offer? 681 01:06:00,780 --> 01:06:09,120 a great question. Mr. Simlink, that is the end of April. So we would we hope to have a decision 682 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:13,580 or a plan moving forward by the way, because we've already asked for one extension. 683 01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:28,120 What kind of a building were you guys looking at when it was $3.5 to $5 million? 684 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:32,680 Oh, we were just working with the fair board and we were talking like a steel building. 685 01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:44,860 Yeah, it wasn't a Taj Mahal bill. No, but but but quite large, you know, it's, you know, 686 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:53,600 because the Fair Board wanted a large exhibition and an event center. And we were, you know, 687 01:06:53,720 --> 01:07:00,920 this one is about 6,500 square feet with the two floors. And out there, I think we were 688 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,100 we're talking like 4,000. 689 01:07:02,380 --> 01:07:04,760 We had needed at least, so 690 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:08,020 large structures. 691 01:07:09,950 --> 01:07:12,260 You know, you have a great question about 692 01:07:12,260 --> 01:07:16,700 the historical buildings out there, 693 01:07:17,620 --> 01:07:20,060 the home and the school. 694 01:07:20,820 --> 01:07:23,000 And there's a lot of historical societies 695 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,180 that have things within their counties 696 01:07:26,180 --> 01:07:28,920 that they protect and are part of. 697 01:07:29,580 --> 01:07:32,020 And certainly, we wouldn't lose sight of those 698 01:07:32,860 --> 01:07:38,220 It was a big part of the historical society since they were put out there. 699 01:07:38,300 --> 01:07:41,220 I know the House was dropped in the 1970s, I think. 700 01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,780 So we will continue to keep good care of those. 701 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,940 And we're always out there during the fair to give tours. 702 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:51,000 And I love that. 703 01:07:51,060 --> 01:07:52,440 And I still a showcase piece for some. 704 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:53,980 I've been on multiple tours out there. 705 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:54,940 I love those old buildings. 706 01:07:54,940 --> 01:08:21,410 But that's a big, I guess, concern or just point of interest for me is, you know, if you're going to have potentially 25,000 people throughout the year visiting that area versus, I mean, how many people in our community even know where this building is located. 707 01:08:21,410 --> 01:08:28,790 So other than if you know the history of it, I think there's more people that come down 708 01:08:28,790 --> 01:08:34,430 fifth street than go on fairgrounds and you know our plan is you know maybe put a big 709 01:08:34,430 --> 01:08:38,570 sign up on the odd fellows buildings say hey three blocks down it's your county museum. 710 01:08:39,130 --> 01:08:44,450 So we think it'll be very visible it's an iconic building that's in pretty much every 711 01:08:44,450 --> 01:08:51,110 old photo of Madras and I think another thing you brought up and it's a good point but 712 01:08:51,110 --> 01:08:54,790 But if we buy that building for $300,000, 713 01:08:55,070 --> 01:08:58,550 that's probably a good buy even if we bail out of it 714 01:08:58,550 --> 01:09:01,350 and move into a museum that somebody builds force 715 01:09:01,350 --> 01:09:02,070 at the fairground. 716 01:09:02,730 --> 01:09:08,610 It's in the $300,000 and a half a city block. 717 01:09:10,570 --> 01:09:16,570 So I think it makes good sense just as a purchase 718 01:09:17,430 --> 01:09:21,750 that alone saving the most iconic building to have. 719 01:09:23,070 --> 01:09:23,590 Go ahead. 720 01:09:24,310 --> 01:09:24,730 No, no, no, no. 721 01:09:24,890 --> 01:09:30,770 I was going to say to me, the museum is Jefferson County Museum. 722 01:09:30,970 --> 01:09:34,950 It's not just that building, one of the buildings of the Fairfields. 723 01:09:36,890 --> 01:09:38,370 It's the agon. 724 01:09:39,450 --> 01:09:43,150 It's the threshing bee. 725 01:09:43,530 --> 01:09:44,470 I mean, it's all those of them. 726 01:09:44,470 --> 01:09:49,370 And it's a living or, and this is just a way to help sustain it. 727 01:09:50,730 --> 01:09:53,330 So that's why we didn't have to go forward. 728 01:09:53,570 --> 01:09:53,630 Yeah. 729 01:09:54,170 --> 01:09:54,230 Yeah. 730 01:09:58,100 --> 01:09:59,700 What do you guys? 731 01:10:00,210 --> 01:10:06,350 What would you suggest as a move forward or a timeline, or what, what should we expect? 732 01:10:09,980 --> 01:10:33,050 I might need to noodle on it a little bit. I mean, I mean, obviously you gave us some some the things that we asked for. I think that's fantastic. I'm a little privy to where we stand with budget right now, and it's not pretty. Of course, we haven't gotten to any kind of conclusion on anything, but you know, this is an essence creating a completely new department. 733 01:10:34,870 --> 01:10:42,730 I'm not necessarily paying member, updated paying member, but I'm consistently a member 734 01:10:42,730 --> 01:10:44,170 at points in time during the year. 735 01:10:46,330 --> 01:10:47,510 So I'd have to abstain, I guess. 736 01:10:47,610 --> 01:10:55,450 I guess I have to abstain, but like I said, I think if your timeline is towards the end 737 01:10:55,450 --> 01:11:01,690 of April, it gives us a little bit of a runway to keep it kind of top of mind here and have 738 01:11:01,690 --> 01:11:07,070 some conversations. I know I can reach out to each, I know everybody in this room to 739 01:11:07,070 --> 01:11:10,770 be able to talk through what things I'm thinking, et cetera. 740 01:11:12,870 --> 01:11:13,790 I haven't done my 741 01:11:13,790 --> 01:11:16,830 diligence as far as contacting other commissioners and other counties, 742 01:11:17,130 --> 01:11:21,650 you know, Gany and Krupp, for instance, Klamath would be a good one to go to as 743 01:11:21,650 --> 01:11:27,270 well as see how they kind of do things. We offered the grant services, you know, we 744 01:11:27,270 --> 01:11:37,880 offered global grants to look into anything on their behalf or do we know of 745 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:41,680 anything that's out there that we could conceivably get our hands on if we suck 746 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:47,840 you know stuck stuck global grants on them 747 01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:52,080 What's wrong with your voice? 748 01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:28,260 Is it outside the purview of CBG grants? 749 01:12:28,940 --> 01:12:31,580 Is this kind of a project outside of a community block grant? 750 01:12:32,300 --> 01:12:36,500 Um, and so we looked in and out when we were looking at Fairgrounds. 751 01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:43,020 Community development block grants provide a lot of things but they will not build the museum. 752 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:45,420 Not by a little thing, huh? 753 01:12:45,900 --> 01:12:46,860 We're not building one. 754 01:12:49,900 --> 01:12:52,960 Fairgrounds, I still call it a museum, let's call it something else. 755 01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:54,260 Community space. 756 01:12:55,000 --> 01:13:01,560 But we did look into that, but the other thing with grants, you know, we're real confident 757 01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,460 like the Roundhouse Foundation, even the Bean Foundation. 758 01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,280 We think we can really hit the ground running. 759 01:13:08,660 --> 01:13:13,340 And, you know, as a historical society, I think that opens the door for us to get a lot 760 01:13:13,340 --> 01:13:13,820 of grants. 761 01:13:14,820 --> 01:13:18,380 You know, we're not all professional grant writers and I'm sure we could use that. 762 01:13:18,380 --> 01:13:22,920 Yeah, I know I think I think that's a that's a huge tool that we've in the city 763 01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:28,460 You know, and this is a kind of a joint. Yeah, and if you're gonna be asking them for money as well 764 01:13:29,060 --> 01:13:33,140 This is a by the way. Have you have you had counsel with them yet? 765 01:13:33,780 --> 01:13:35,980 You guys are it only one of them so far 766 01:13:39,580 --> 01:13:41,140 No, that would be in the future 767 01:13:42,780 --> 01:13:48,040 And yeah, but we think it would be a really excellent addition to the city matters too 768 01:13:48,380 --> 01:13:52,110 So, yeah, we go to the city there. 769 01:13:52,770 --> 01:13:53,710 Seek their support. 770 01:13:55,070 --> 01:13:58,030 Well, I think I'll tell you where I stand right now at this moment. 771 01:13:58,190 --> 01:14:00,910 I'd kind of like to visit with some of you individually. 772 01:14:01,450 --> 01:14:04,250 And, you know, Mark, you continue your work. 773 01:14:04,510 --> 01:14:06,110 You can be in this pretty well. 774 01:14:06,230 --> 01:14:07,550 I'm very appreciative of that. 775 01:14:10,500 --> 01:14:14,520 Knowing what our deadline is is important. 776 01:14:16,260 --> 01:14:19,840 So, stop being non-committal or committal. 777 01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:25,920 Well, I wouldn't throw out an I shouldn't maybe talk out of turn but we have a hundred thousand dollars ready 778 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:32,500 Yeah, so if you get to the budget in time and you want to say we'll let we'll do a hundred now 779 01:14:32,500 --> 01:14:35,680 And then save that your second hundred for two years down 780 01:14:36,820 --> 01:14:40,520 Because it's two hundred now get a hundred and twenty-one months 781 01:14:41,260 --> 01:14:41,700 Potentially 782 01:14:42,580 --> 01:14:48,640 We can we're trying not to we're trying to save what we have in order so we can invest in the remodel 783 01:14:49,540 --> 01:14:54,880 I think it would be, I think it would be, I think we would lend credence to even having 784 01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:59,980 in those conversations with being, you know, say hey, we're, we've 785 01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:18,540 If you feel it's important, show your skin. And some of those things. And like I said, I think the other thing is we try to getting the building captured. I don't think that's the problem. I really don't. I think it's the sustainability of it into the future. 786 01:15:19,060 --> 01:15:26,180 You know, you got your one third of the way there with what's already in the budget that thanks to Commissioner Ayer back in the day. 787 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:40,000 So, you know, like I said, I'm not kicking the can, but let's get serious about having conversations and you continue the work that you've been doing and it was loop forward. 788 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:46,380 Yeah, no, and that's part of the reason why I wanted to bring him here today was to to refresh this conversation 789 01:15:46,380 --> 01:15:53,560 Knowing that the end of April is kind of a deadline for purchase of the property and and give them feedback of 790 01:15:54,120 --> 01:16:01,880 What they need to do in the meantime and then I was planning to invite them back with more more information 791 01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:09,660 Direction from you guys once or twice and see where we can get to before the end of April was my thought process time wise 792 01:16:09,660 --> 01:16:18,060 this way. Who's the property over there? Link? It's Link, the group that's behind you. 793 01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:27,280 Very, very familiar. Thank you. Any more questions or directions or you guys want to reach 794 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:35,880 out to them individually? Yeah, I think that I'll be reaching out and I'm going to be reaching 795 01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:42,260 not some others to see kind of what our options I know that I'm coming late into the game 796 01:16:42,260 --> 01:16:45,940 you guys have been talking about this for a while apparently so I'm trying to get caught 797 01:16:45,940 --> 01:16:51,880 up so it's it's one of those things right you know my mind's always going a hundred miles 798 01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:56,160 an hour and I'm sure that 90% of the stuff that's popping into my mind you guys have already 799 01:16:56,160 --> 01:17:01,980 hit and covered so just want to all right but thank you for coming here today. 800 01:17:01,980 --> 01:17:08,520 Do you have a, before you had, do you have a scheduled meeting coming up yesterday? 801 01:17:13,340 --> 01:17:17,800 Why did, did you want to come and go, I just thought, hey, it would be great to capture 802 01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:23,820 all in the same, same ring, okay, this is, I know where to get hold of him, I know where 803 01:17:23,820 --> 01:17:30,360 to find you, I know where to find you, and you, this, but this is a large element of our 804 01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:38,680 So, yeah, I think direction is maybe reach out to some private people at some level. 805 01:17:38,780 --> 01:17:46,740 The county is interested and you reach out to some private partners and I think you can 806 01:17:46,740 --> 01:17:51,740 definitely say we're interested in helping you at some level and see what the buy-in is 807 01:17:51,740 --> 01:17:52,760 from some of them. 808 01:17:53,020 --> 01:17:59,960 So, the more we can get certain partners, at least a warm buy-in and wanting to help, I think 809 01:17:59,960 --> 01:18:03,480 it helps make things stronger as a whole. 810 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:05,440 So, yeah. 811 01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:07,120 All right. 812 01:18:07,260 --> 01:18:07,460 Thank you. 813 01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,380 So, these three minutes were like, for the long run. 814 01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:09,700 Yeah. 815 01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:16,560 And then, yeah, Jeff, can you connect them with global grants 816 01:18:24,780 --> 01:18:25,180 opportunities? 817 01:18:37,450 --> 01:18:37,550 Of course. 818 01:18:37,550 --> 01:18:38,970 It's too late to ask a capital to request. 819 01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:46,160 Yeah. 820 01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:47,280 Okay. 821 01:18:47,700 --> 01:18:48,400 Thank you very much. 822 01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:49,080 Thank you guys. 823 01:18:49,420 --> 01:18:49,820 Thanks. 824 01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:51,960 Okay. 825 01:18:54,520 --> 01:19:01,820 Good morning. Good morning. May or do you name for the name for the record please. 826 01:19:01,820 --> 01:19:09,180 John Standell, Mayor Matilda, it seems like 4 out of 10 is 9-7-7-4-1. 827 01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:13,240 So, pardon me? 828 01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:20,300 I don't know if I want to sit down, but anyway, 829 01:19:23,580 --> 01:19:27,840 we submitted a letter to Jeff in the city 830 01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:31,140 to help the grant deaf wasn't here. 831 01:19:31,480 --> 01:19:35,060 I gave it the game and he said that for a half years 832 01:19:35,060 --> 01:19:37,980 he needs to go before the commissioners 833 01:19:37,980 --> 01:19:43,120 were trying to get assistance to have the county 834 01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:48,960 or Brian with the county sheriff's office 835 01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:53,260 to write us a grant for a generator 836 01:19:53,980 --> 01:19:55,940 pursue a grant for a generator. 837 01:19:55,940 --> 01:19:59,840 So we're going in the toilet. 838 01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:30,540 I'll put in half a mobile generator with transfer switches in our facility. The Department of Energy just recently came out and said that if you 70% likelihood there will be more brownouts. So that is one of the things regarding the city and Natalius. And then regarding the VFW and the fly poll, we submitted our vice commander. And the commander submitted the vote. 839 01:20:30,540 --> 01:20:37,500 whether to you, we've got time, we'll forget the Memorial Day thing, we'd rather do it right, 840 01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:39,920 do it once. 841 01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:47,400 And then the V of W is attempting to mend our differences with the Jefferson County Senior. 842 01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:50,340 We think it's moving positively. 843 01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:59,020 And we are pleased that the Redmond Community Center 844 01:20:59,020 --> 01:21:03,640 is got a grant from St. Charles that everyone 845 01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,820 helped the community center. 846 01:21:08,140 --> 01:21:10,740 The overall thing includes us. 847 01:21:11,140 --> 01:21:16,100 And I just submitted for a grant for $6,500 848 01:21:16,340 --> 01:21:21,780 to improve the office situation as the senior center. 849 01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:23,200 And that is installed. 850 01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:25,940 There's still a few other items. 851 01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,900 We met with the fairer board, and that went positive. 852 01:21:30,900 --> 01:21:43,520 We asked them to consider replacing the flag bulls and also allowing us that the W to 853 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:51,560 have it permanent spot inside the fairer grounds during fairer and perpetuity throughout 854 01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,080 were us private. 855 01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:04,980 And then, let's see. So, take a look at the flagpole issue, after 856 01:22:04,980 --> 01:22:11,440 the cemetery. We get time, and you'll do whatever you want. And then, regarding the museum, 857 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:20,560 I'm actually the advocate of the museum as a part of the fairgrounds because of the 858 01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:43,610 So I had a question on your generators and your one generator multiple transmit switches. 859 01:22:44,330 --> 01:22:49,870 So what would this generator be powering the entire city? 860 01:22:49,870 --> 01:23:01,630 the public works department, the city hall and the depot separately, because we can't 861 01:23:01,630 --> 01:23:07,550 afford true generators, you guys got your big generators, what with those 100 kilowatt 862 01:23:07,550 --> 01:23:08,270 or something? 863 01:23:13,610 --> 01:23:13,990 Nobody. 864 01:23:14,530 --> 01:23:14,790 Somebody. 865 01:23:15,270 --> 01:23:20,370 We've got two big generators, we don't need that, we're asking for a 30 kilowatt generator, 866 01:23:20,370 --> 01:23:28,290 to be able to move it, and we're going to incorporate our own welder with that trailer so we 867 01:23:28,290 --> 01:23:31,330 can weld on the movie. 868 01:23:33,110 --> 01:23:33,270 All right. 869 01:23:34,050 --> 01:23:37,470 Have you talked to Skidjula at all about the generators at all? 870 01:23:38,090 --> 01:23:38,650 Right. 871 01:23:38,990 --> 01:23:39,510 Brainskidjula. 872 01:23:39,770 --> 01:23:39,870 Yeah. 873 01:23:40,390 --> 01:23:49,310 Well, I have just a conversation, just a book, John, we can't do it because of you along. 874 01:23:49,310 --> 01:23:57,910 We have to have counsel to write it and give them the letter from the city, but I have 875 01:23:57,910 --> 01:24:06,470 talked about your generators that you just prepared, so that sounds really fun. 876 01:24:06,870 --> 01:24:11,530 I'm a big advocate for military guys, I'm talking about the operations that I think. 877 01:24:12,370 --> 01:24:18,930 I actually think the fairgrounds, the museum, the library should look at that whole thing 878 01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:32,560 Is this the work that you've done with them? 879 01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:41,100 This is what I asked them to present us with something official and then my plan is 880 01:24:41,100 --> 01:24:42,600 I talked to Tony about this. 881 01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:54,880 So my plan is that Tony and I will go up there and take a look and then he'll give me his good bad 882 01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:59,980 and nuggles and then hopefully either... 883 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:26,440 All of us, some representatives from the VFW and Tony can go over and find a middle ground. And if the price tag is too big on this, then we're going to have to go for some outside funding for different things or some donations. So we need to. But that's all part of it. So this was the first. I just was making sure that this was this. I want this. So I asked for the three things. 884 01:25:26,440 --> 01:25:29,220 The use of B word, the bond thing, 885 01:25:32,350 --> 01:25:38,730 there you go, but no, I think that this was thank 886 01:25:38,730 --> 01:25:45,790 you for this and tell the guys I appreciate the timeliness of this as well just so that 887 01:25:45,790 --> 01:25:51,230 we can have everything in black and white officially and then we can move forward. 888 01:25:51,230 --> 01:26:00,910 So, across the board, VFW, I think, for Charlie Mike, moving forward, continuing to mention 889 01:26:00,910 --> 01:26:09,090 it sounds good with the Jefferson County seniors, we would appreciate that they reported 890 01:26:09,090 --> 01:26:17,190 to you one other thing. We'd like to put our sign out in front of the community center. 891 01:26:21,110 --> 01:26:25,490 We use the same vendor that we use, and we'll pay for it. 892 01:26:26,110 --> 01:26:30,930 We use the same vendor that, I don't know if I could help with these on that deal or not. 893 01:26:32,310 --> 01:26:39,490 But rub graphics did their signage out trying, and we'll use the same vendor, same motif. 894 01:26:40,950 --> 01:26:42,670 We'd like you to consider that. 895 01:26:44,410 --> 01:26:53,530 And then we have the quasi and perpetuity a sign of our own, our, we have a play kind 896 01:26:53,530 --> 01:27:00,770 of visual representation of ourselves in the community, so it's not just for, you know, 897 01:27:00,910 --> 01:27:03,750 out in the periphery of the nowhere else. 898 01:27:05,170 --> 01:27:09,070 Is that somewhere in your being a shameless plug of your event coming up the end of the 899 01:27:09,070 --> 01:27:09,470 month here? 900 01:27:09,630 --> 01:27:09,770 Yeah. 901 01:27:09,770 --> 01:27:21,670 2019 we have our big dinner, sponsored by the BFW and we're hit, you're all of course invited. 902 01:27:22,710 --> 01:27:29,590 And by the way, part of our mending deal with the Jefferson County seniors is a congregate. 903 01:27:29,750 --> 01:27:35,970 We are offering up some discount so they can get in because you know, most of people are poor. 904 01:27:37,210 --> 01:27:42,610 Otherwise, they wouldn't be eating at the community center. 905 01:27:43,290 --> 01:27:46,070 So, something five blocks off or down. 906 01:27:46,350 --> 01:27:48,870 I can't remember what Mike did. 907 01:27:49,290 --> 01:27:52,130 But I'm subordinate to them. 908 01:27:52,550 --> 01:27:56,030 I'm the judge advocate, much lower position. 909 01:27:56,630 --> 01:27:59,090 Both those guys are operating at 100%. 910 01:27:59,090 --> 01:28:01,990 I'm operating at 70%. 911 01:28:03,030 --> 01:28:04,390 That's pretty much it. 912 01:28:04,390 --> 01:28:15,930 All right, thank you Sean, thank you George Kirk 150 Northeast Tenshreet a.k.a. 70 100 Southwest 913 01:28:15,930 --> 01:28:23,010 Shadow Road. So a couple of concerns is with like you know everybody's hurting for budgets and 914 01:28:23,010 --> 01:28:28,350 funding being cut you know like the city talked about last night they're looking but possibly a 915 01:28:28,350 --> 01:28:35,710 dollar budget shortfall, you know, the fire department asking for a bond this year, the library 916 01:28:35,710 --> 01:28:40,750 wants to expand, they're asking for a bond this year. The MAC is asking for a bond this year to 917 01:28:41,850 --> 01:28:49,230 to sustain the operate. I think that the historical society should ask the public for a bond to see 918 01:28:49,230 --> 01:28:56,270 if that's what we really want. I mean, if they ask for maybe like 25 cents per thousand or something 919 01:28:56,270 --> 01:29:26,250 might be able to be approved, but I think it would be very irresponsible of all three commissioners if they just decided to give $100,000 of my or and everybody in the county's money way, especially with a lot of my friends, family, that people who could river, we would prefer that you give $100,000 here in Mr. Pollock so we could have a share of running around out there, you know, patrolling and keeping it safe out there, not that they don't get called, but you know, it's always 920 01:29:26,250 --> 01:29:32,590 nice to have a deputy you know present just we don't call but have a deputy 921 01:29:32,590 --> 01:29:36,510 president prevents crime prevention sees a deputy old crap a better not speed 922 01:29:36,510 --> 01:29:39,810 or better not commit crimes with nobody here but if you never see a deputy 923 01:29:39,810 --> 01:29:44,230 you're more likely to commit crimes but I think the $100 a thousand a year would 924 01:29:44,230 --> 01:29:48,670 be very irresponsible because you're going up 90 percent if you're given ten 925 01:29:48,670 --> 01:29:52,370 thousand now you go to a hundred thousand you're going 90 percent up and then 926 01:29:52,370 --> 01:29:59,810 $200,000 for building, you can put $200,000 to buy the building and then $200,000 to also 927 01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:08,020 Remodel. Another concern is, so what if you do throw $500,000 of 200 for the building, $200 for 928 01:30:08,020 --> 01:30:13,420 construction, and $100,000 for operation costs? There's going to be change orders to fix 929 01:30:13,420 --> 01:30:18,480 the building, so that really, it's always change orders when you're doing remodeling, so 930 01:30:18,480 --> 01:30:23,940 it's going to cost more. It's just not feasible. Another concern is, if they do open, we give 931 01:30:23,940 --> 01:30:32,040 five hundred thousand dollars a half a million dollars and then they realize oh we can't operate 932 01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:37,260 on this money that we already have we're gonna have to come ask for two hundred and fifty to sustain 933 01:30:37,260 --> 01:30:43,640 and they can't do it so then they just close so then that will be big news if you give five hundred 934 01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:49,260 thousand dollars right away in the first year and they just close because they're not open and I 935 01:30:49,260 --> 01:30:52,740 believe there's grants and they should ask the public because if you just give five hundred 936 01:30:52,740 --> 01:30:58,920 thousand dollars away then they realize we can't operate and they close. I guarantee you 937 01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:04,140 that there will be three brand new commissioners. If you lose half a million dollars we're 938 01:31:04,140 --> 01:31:07,400 money. Thanks for your comments George. Thanks. 939 01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:14,960 We do have revenue that comes in a multitude 940 01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:24,220 of different assets and there are specific ways we can spend that money and can't spend 941 01:31:24,220 --> 01:31:33,700 eventually go to something like this, whether it's their whole ask or not, is beside the point, but some of that money can't go to the sheriff. 942 01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:50,100 And currently with the sheriff's update today is he's fully staffed on the patrol side with what the original FTE was for the last two, two and a half years. 943 01:31:50,100 --> 01:32:04,080 We've gave them latitude to hire two extra patrol staff, and those positions are still open, so we are supporting the sheriff, and we understand that, but thanks for your comments. 944 01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:11,960 Thanks, George. 945 01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:14,100 Laura. 946 01:32:14,100 --> 01:32:22,540 I wanted to follow up to Mr. Stamford's comment, I'm sorry, Laura Moore, Jefferson County 947 01:32:22,540 --> 01:32:25,380 Veterans Service Office regarding the signage on the senior center. 948 01:32:26,060 --> 01:32:32,960 I just want you to also, if you're going to look at doing the VFW to consider where the 949 01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:35,980 American Legion is in that, because they also meet there. 950 01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:44,600 So I think, you know, if they also want signage and probably appropriate to do that, you know, at the same time. 951 01:32:44,780 --> 01:32:47,680 So there's just a thought. 952 01:32:48,420 --> 01:32:49,200 Thank you. 953 01:32:49,300 --> 01:32:49,620 Thanks, Lauren. 954 01:33:03,220 --> 01:33:04,260 Thank you. 955 01:33:04,260 --> 01:33:04,660 Thank you. 956 01:33:04,660 --> 01:33:05,360 Thank you. 957 01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:05,960 Thank you. 958 01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:09,640 Do we need anyone online? 959 01:33:12,130 --> 01:33:14,990 I think Laura, was she wanting to try to get out of here? 960 01:33:15,090 --> 01:33:16,970 I don't want to wait on the sign. 961 01:33:17,110 --> 01:33:20,850 I want to make sure that if you didn't say anything, 962 01:33:21,390 --> 01:33:24,210 that anybody that wants to sign piece of motion, 963 01:33:24,430 --> 01:33:26,610 tell me my suggestion is that that building 964 01:33:26,610 --> 01:33:30,570 that the senior organization is really pleased to, 965 01:33:31,090 --> 01:33:33,030 that nothing may be purchased, 966 01:33:33,310 --> 01:33:35,610 allocated or anything that totally goes for the system. 967 01:33:35,610 --> 01:33:36,230 Yep. 968 01:33:36,230 --> 01:33:42,750 In the past, someone has come in, said they had a plan, and it looks to be something to 969 01:33:42,750 --> 01:33:43,310 install. 970 01:33:43,850 --> 01:33:44,170 Yep. 971 01:33:44,490 --> 01:33:44,590 No. 972 01:33:45,010 --> 01:33:45,810 A hundred percent. 973 01:33:46,030 --> 01:33:47,070 This is county property. 974 01:33:47,330 --> 01:33:52,330 We need to go through the proper channels, regardless of if it's privately funded or not. 975 01:33:52,570 --> 01:33:58,330 It needs to be approved through Tony, and if Tony needs assistance come through us, but it 976 01:33:58,330 --> 01:34:05,250 is county property, and there is a process, whether there's any kind of improvements need 977 01:34:05,250 --> 01:34:14,130 be approved through Tony. So thank you for that reminder. No more public comment? Okay Bora, 978 01:34:14,610 --> 01:34:20,690 thank you for your patience. We'll get you in and out. I have two things in there. Eat two. 979 01:34:20,790 --> 01:34:26,670 Two and eight three. Okay, let's do eat two real quick which is uh looks like a correction to our 980 01:34:26,670 --> 01:34:35,470 copy your contract what's the correction yeah 981 01:34:41,480 --> 01:34:45,800 the when I sent these last 982 01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:51,000 signed contract they responded saying that the PO number was incorrect and 983 01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:59,720 then that also they were incorrect on the the per copy price is actually lower 984 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:29,380 All right. Move to sign the corrected canon contract acknowledgement in Lina purchase order for veteran service office previously signed on February 12th, 2025 as m-028-25. That's signed by the chair. Second. Your motion and a second any further discussion? All those in favor of the corrected con canon contract? Please state by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Motion carries. And eight, three. 985 01:35:29,380 --> 01:35:32,300 or at a state travel. 986 01:35:36,380 --> 01:35:41,320 So this is the conference we attend every year nationally. 987 01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:47,780 It travels all over the US and this year it's going to be in Kentucky. 988 01:35:50,440 --> 01:35:56,520 So just important to note just so you know for budget is that generally the conference 989 01:35:56,520 --> 01:36:00,680 is held in May or June most years but this year is going to be held in July 990 01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:07,760 which is going to be a new fiscal year for us so and then the one next year is in Reno and 991 01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:14,540 that was in May so we're going to have two conferences in one fiscal year so I'm asking for 992 01:36:14,540 --> 01:36:21,600 permission to attend but also you know carry out those those funds so we can fund both of those 993 01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:28,680 in the same fiscal year. Yeah it makes sense. Perfect. My motion to authorize for out-of-state travel 994 01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:30,200 for Lowermore and Kevin Ellensberg. 995 01:36:30,420 --> 01:36:33,840 Do attend the 2025 National Association of County Veteran Service 996 01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,920 Officer Conference, July 13 through 18, 2025. 997 01:36:38,660 --> 01:36:39,140 Second. 998 01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:41,200 You got a motion and a second. 999 01:36:41,300 --> 01:36:42,260 Any further discussion? 1000 01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:47,560 All those in favor of the out of state travel for lower and Kevin, 1001 01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:48,820 please state by saying aye. 1002 01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:49,160 Aye. 1003 01:36:49,940 --> 01:36:50,100 Aye. 1004 01:36:50,380 --> 01:36:51,060 Motion carries. 1005 01:36:51,900 --> 01:36:52,660 Thank you so much. 1006 01:36:52,660 --> 01:36:53,140 Great day, Laura. 1007 01:36:53,260 --> 01:36:53,620 Thank you. 1008 01:36:53,620 --> 01:36:54,640 in 1009 01:37:02,190 --> 01:37:09,250 formal time, the 13th of all time, which is our Madras Aquatic Center in 1010 01:37:09,250 --> 01:37:13,950 recreation district. All right, come on up, 28 minutes behind schedule. 1011 01:37:26,290 --> 01:37:26,830 Good morning 1012 01:37:26,830 --> 01:37:32,370 commissioners. Good morning. Names for the record when you get a chance. So for 1013 01:37:32,370 --> 01:37:37,130 the record, Courtney Sneat, executive director of the MAC Recreation District in 1014 01:37:37,130 --> 01:37:39,550 and Janelle Lewis, our board vice chair, 1015 01:37:39,790 --> 01:37:41,490 is here with you as well, how's it going? 1016 01:37:42,050 --> 01:37:48,510 And else, we didn't expect to give you a 22-page slideshow, 1017 01:37:49,310 --> 01:37:50,650 but I wanted to take this opportunity 1018 01:37:50,650 --> 01:37:52,970 to give you a bunch of information about stuff that's going on. 1019 01:37:53,110 --> 01:37:54,250 So I'm not going to go through all of it, 1020 01:37:54,350 --> 01:37:56,410 but you have it in case you want to take a look at it, 1021 01:37:57,510 --> 01:37:58,790 and ask any questions. 1022 01:38:00,290 --> 01:38:03,130 So as you scroll through, we've got some history. 1023 01:38:03,650 --> 01:38:05,550 I wanted to just touch base real quick 1024 01:38:05,550 --> 01:38:10,650 that we do have a number of planning documents and have done quite a bit of 1025 01:38:10,650 --> 01:38:15,130 community outreach over the last few years to try and identify what the 1026 01:38:15,130 --> 01:38:20,090 priorities are of the communities that we serve within the district. And if you 1027 01:38:20,090 --> 01:38:25,270 go to the next one, right now in our 10-year master plan we're focused on 1028 01:38:25,270 --> 01:38:32,030 sustainability which is the first piece of the feedback we received that the 1029 01:38:32,030 --> 01:38:36,230 district needs to kind of get our house in order and figure out how to operate sustainably. 1030 01:38:36,890 --> 01:38:44,630 And so that's what we're doing with the measures that are on the ballot in May, and 1031 01:38:45,170 --> 01:38:48,630 the goal of that is to not have to come before you in the future and ask for tax 1032 01:38:48,630 --> 01:38:51,390 anticipation loans, which is why we are here this morning. 1033 01:38:52,250 --> 01:38:59,310 So Lindsay, if you want to just want it to remind you, if you go back one, we give all 1034 01:38:59,310 --> 01:39:03,190 All second graders at the 599J School District swim lessons every year. 1035 01:39:03,490 --> 01:39:07,930 This is a picture of our Worms Springs Cade second graders this year, and I'm life-garning 1036 01:39:07,930 --> 01:39:11,930 in the background because we don't have enough staff right now, right? 1037 01:39:12,270 --> 01:39:16,250 That should not be a photo, so if you want to go to the next thing. 1038 01:39:17,590 --> 01:39:22,270 In this presentation, one of the things that we had the board look at in the last few months 1039 01:39:22,270 --> 01:39:27,930 is really defining what sustainability means and trying to demonstrate the things that 1040 01:39:27,930 --> 01:39:32,770 we're currently able to do versus the things that we know we should be doing as a responsible 1041 01:39:32,770 --> 01:39:39,010 public organization that is required to follow at least 15 different state codes and laws 1042 01:39:39,010 --> 01:39:40,470 and rules just as you all are. 1043 01:39:41,050 --> 01:39:46,010 So the next few pages, if you just want to click through, kind of talk through the definitions 1044 01:39:46,010 --> 01:39:51,770 of sustainability and identify, you know, what happens if the measures pass within the first 1045 01:39:51,770 --> 01:39:56,270 couple years, within the next three to five years, and then also tries to identify what 1046 01:39:56,270 --> 01:39:59,830 we're already doing. And so as you kind of go through the next three or four 1047 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:28,740 You can see there's not a lot of underlined things because there's not a lot of things we can currently do with the funding level that we have. I also have in the presentation some data for you about participation numbers. Despite having to cut programs and services over the last few years, our participation rates are all up in all the things that we do. And so this kind of shows you how aquatics has grown over the years, land-based programming, which is sports and enrichment. 1048 01:40:29,900 --> 01:40:34,800 And then overall, you know, in the last year, we've just seen a boom in folks participating. 1049 01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:40,720 If you want to go to the next one, this is a breakdown of programs that require pre-registration. 1050 01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:46,120 So this is swim lessons, all of our different sports programs, tackle football, flag football, 1051 01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:47,180 soccer, all the things. 1052 01:40:47,700 --> 01:40:53,000 And you can see that over the last few years, our participation is booming in these activities. 1053 01:40:53,700 --> 01:40:58,660 If you go to the next slide, there's a lot of talk out there about our lack of open 1054 01:40:58,660 --> 01:41:04,380 and swims. Part of that is it requires about $1,500 to run an open swim for three hours 1055 01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:12,900 and we recover about $600 of that with fees. So property taxes subsidize us being able 1056 01:41:12,900 --> 01:41:18,240 to be open for open swim. But despite cutting it, we've got the highest number of people participating 1057 01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:23,300 in open swims and it's a supply and demand thing. So now that we only offer them twice a 1058 01:41:23,300 --> 01:41:27,240 months, they're full, and we're able to cover the cost of offering that. 1059 01:41:28,140 --> 01:41:33,320 If you go to the next slide, this is just a, it's hard to read, but it's a visual representation 1060 01:41:33,860 --> 01:41:37,660 of overall program participation since 2018-19. 1061 01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:44,480 Our data prior to that is, I don't trust it, I'm just going to say it that way, but you 1062 01:41:44,480 --> 01:41:49,780 can see that during the asterisk year that we will not talk about, it was really low in 1063 01:41:49,780 --> 01:41:51,280 them, it's just been booming since. 1064 01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:57,500 And we expect that trying to continue growing if the measures successfully pass. 1065 01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:03,340 If you go to the next slide, also another really important piece is memberships. 1066 01:42:03,480 --> 01:42:08,080 Most of those are, as you can see in that far right, third party health insurance. 1067 01:42:08,260 --> 01:42:10,520 Most of those are supported by Medicare. 1068 01:42:11,220 --> 01:42:14,320 So it's for our seniors who are doing fitness workouts in the morning. 1069 01:42:14,340 --> 01:42:19,700 If you come up to the pool between 9 and 11, you'll see probably 20 to 40 people in there exercising 1070 01:42:20,340 --> 01:42:24,500 because it's way easier to do in the water than it is on land once you get to a 1071 01:42:24,500 --> 01:42:30,460 certain age. I want to go to the next slide. So I just I want you guys to have 1072 01:42:30,460 --> 01:42:33,740 this information in case you're asked and I also am trying to get it out as 1073 01:42:33,740 --> 01:42:37,960 much as possible. If the measures don't pass our current reduced hours will be 1074 01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:42,000 reduced further. I'm not even sure as I've been working on the budget that we're 1075 01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:46,780 going to be able to be open for the hours that are presented here because we'll go 1076 01:42:46,780 --> 01:42:52,940 So down to three staff, right now we've got about 20 to 30 staff members, seasonally depending 1077 01:42:52,940 --> 01:42:58,120 on when that is, we will go down to three staff members if the measures don't pass because 1078 01:42:58,120 --> 01:43:02,960 instead of funding people to do programming, we're going to have to fund facility improvements 1079 01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:08,660 because we're caught in a really tricky situation financially. 1080 01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:14,200 If we have any mechanical or capital figures, we're going to be looking to all of our friends 1081 01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:19,060 and partners across Jefferson County as well as grants and there's not a lot of grants 1082 01:43:19,060 --> 01:43:24,400 for maintenance repairs to try and fund it and if we can't find that money then we will 1083 01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:29,020 close until we can save enough money. That puts us in another tricky situation because 1084 01:43:29,020 --> 01:43:33,900 we'll lay everybody off and then it'll be tough to get folks to come back. If you go to the 1085 01:43:33,900 --> 01:43:38,540 next slide I just want to point out that third bullet point if the measures don't pass that 1086 01:43:38,540 --> 01:43:43,180 we'll have to explore options for someone else taken over operation of the recreation district 1087 01:43:43,180 --> 01:43:47,020 and you all are on our list so we'll be looking to the county or the city of 1088 01:43:47,020 --> 01:43:50,980 Madras or somebody maybe a private organization to take over operating the 1089 01:43:50,980 --> 01:43:56,200 district because at the point at which those measures don't pass we don't 1090 01:43:56,200 --> 01:44:01,700 really have another option. That's out of pool. I'm sorry. That's out of pool. That's 1091 01:44:01,700 --> 01:44:06,200 everything. That's a aquatic facility. That's sports enrichment all the 1092 01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:09,800 different programs. If the measures don't pass the board is going to be talking 1093 01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:14,720 about it. Our next board meeting March 19th, not offering any sports or land-based activities 1094 01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:23,500 next year. So that 250 kids that were in basketball will not be in basketball. We are in a severe 1095 01:44:24,100 --> 01:44:29,980 budget pickle. And that's the reason last year the measures were put on the ballot. They 1096 01:44:29,980 --> 01:44:37,440 failed by one failed by about 95 votes. And that's why the board is chosen to put it on again. 1097 01:44:37,440 --> 01:44:42,560 I'm not sure that there is the will to put it on again if it doesn't pass this time. 1098 01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:47,580 And so we're talking about super significant impacts and reductions. 1099 01:44:48,700 --> 01:44:53,180 If you go to the next slide, because I like to end on a positive note, if it measures 1100 01:44:53,180 --> 01:44:55,240 past, we'll be able to triple our hours. 1101 01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:59,860 That's all dependent on how quickly we can onboard staff to help. 1102 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:27,580 We will provide those hours at the back. So I'm not sure part of that is contingent upon the discussion with you all about the tax anticipation loan. So we'll get to that in a moment. But the goal is to triple the hours by next summer with those staffing adjustments. So you can see right now we're operating during the school year with 27 to 30 hours a week open to the public. And we would go to 61 hours a week, which is a doubling during the school year. 1103 01:45:27,580 --> 01:45:30,160 and to 76 hours a week during the summer. 1104 01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:33,660 So this gets us really excited. 1105 01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:35,420 And then if you go to the next slide, 1106 01:45:35,620 --> 01:45:37,060 we can begin the process. 1107 01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:39,080 We have to redo our locker room walls. 1108 01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:41,880 I don't know if anybody remembers a few years ago. 1109 01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:44,180 I don't know if you're sure. 1110 01:45:44,460 --> 01:45:47,140 A few short years ago, it came out that the walls were not put 1111 01:45:47,140 --> 01:45:48,600 in properly into our locker rooms. 1112 01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:50,620 They were done with drywall in a wet environment. 1113 01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:52,440 And so they're crumbling from the inside out. 1114 01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:54,760 We've got about three to five years to replace them. 1115 01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:59,280 It's about a 1.2 estimated million dollar project to do that. 1116 01:45:59,480 --> 01:46:04,120 And so in addition to that, we have new aquatic health codes we'll have to follow, which 1117 01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:06,780 I'll also talk about in a second, when that project comes up. 1118 01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:09,620 So that may actually be more than 1.2 million because of that. 1119 01:46:10,580 --> 01:46:14,900 Anyway, we're really excited about the possibility of partnering with the county on programming, 1120 01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:20,280 on Shared Comes Park, and all kinds of other fun things should the measures pass. 1121 01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:22,140 We want to go to the next slide. 1122 01:46:22,140 --> 01:46:26,880 Okay, I needed to take a moment and talk about this because this is new and your county 1123 01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:32,500 health department will be responsible for implementing these rules and holding us accountable 1124 01:46:32,500 --> 01:46:33,340 for following them. 1125 01:46:34,100 --> 01:46:40,960 In our state's infinite wisdom, they have adopted the Model Health, Model Aquatic Health 1126 01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:45,920 Code, which is a best practice document for operating an Aquatics facility, both as it relates 1127 01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:49,740 to the asset itself and how we operate with staffing in the pool. 1128 01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:56,760 And I just brought for visual impact, all of those yellow tabs are money, that we currently 1129 01:46:56,760 --> 01:47:01,540 are not spending, that we will be spending because of these new regulations that the state 1130 01:47:01,540 --> 01:47:01,900 has. 1131 01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:08,120 So, kindly giving us two weeks to respond to, that they're implementing mid-March. 1132 01:47:08,740 --> 01:47:13,640 I don't know what the timeline is for us being shut down for not being in compliance, but 1133 01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:18,900 I can tell you that every pool east of the cascades is in non-compliance with these new rules. 1134 01:47:18,900 --> 01:47:22,980 We met a few weeks ago in how to discussion about it. 1135 01:47:23,300 --> 01:47:32,360 So it's about $150,000 next year that we'll have to invest because of this asset management 1136 01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:36,800 related stuff, preventative maintenance stuff that as a small district we just don't have 1137 01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:38,420 in place that will now be required. 1138 01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:46,120 Lots of documentation that we don't currently have on preventative maintenance, staffing 1139 01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:51,820 levels that are higher than what we currently have. We're close to best practice on staffing 1140 01:47:51,820 --> 01:47:55,080 levels. We've done some work over the last three years, but we're not quite compliant. 1141 01:47:56,580 --> 01:48:01,980 And so we're waiting with beta breath to see if they're going to give us a runway to 1142 01:48:01,980 --> 01:48:06,680 come into compliance, or if it'll be a, hey, March 15th, we're going to shut you down if 1143 01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:10,360 you're not in compliance. I hope they don't go that route. I hope they give us until at least 1144 01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:18,880 January of 26. I'm kind of hoping for January of 27. Because like I said, and I'm the facilities 1145 01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:27,340 guy right now. So you're saying we're one of only 10 states that have adopted these standards. 1146 01:48:27,420 --> 01:48:31,520 That's correct. And what are some of the examples of these standards? 1147 01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:38,560 So for the one that's super impactful is how they're calculating bather load. 1148 01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:43,140 Beta load is the number of people and bodies that can be in the water at one time. 1149 01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:46,440 Right now our building occupancy is 375. 1150 01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:50,100 The new Beta load calculations limit us to 158. 1151 01:48:51,420 --> 01:48:55,320 So that's one significant example that impacts how we operate. 1152 01:48:55,500 --> 01:49:00,680 Another one is we're required to have a lifeguard at the top of the slide and the bottom of the 1153 01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:01,000 slide. 1154 01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:05,560 Right now we have a deck attendant who's a 14 year old implementing rules at the top 1155 01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:06,180 of the slide. 1156 01:49:06,180 --> 01:49:08,340 But now we'll have to put two lifeguards. 1157 01:49:08,540 --> 01:49:16,280 So instead of spending $14 an hour, we'll be spending $56 an hour for every hour that we have the slide open. 1158 01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:20,300 So it's, and people get very angry if the slide isn't that way. 1159 01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:23,700 And so there's that children get very angry. 1160 01:49:23,820 --> 01:49:24,340 And they'll appear. 1161 01:49:24,860 --> 01:49:28,000 Is there, is there any, couldn't go on the slide while they were there for Rex? 1162 01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:28,500 Oh, yeah. 1163 01:49:28,580 --> 01:49:32,480 Is there anything we can do about this now reaching out to people doing that kind of stuff? 1164 01:49:32,480 --> 01:49:34,560 summarize it and give me a give me a 1165 01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:37,720 I'll forge you my comments that I made to the yeah 1166 01:49:38,540 --> 01:49:40,940 Kelly will whip out a lot of going to 1167 01:49:40,940 --> 01:49:42,060 J absolutely 1168 01:49:43,700 --> 01:49:46,140 ORPA and SDAO is also involved 1169 01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:50,820 I mean they literally we found out at the SDAO conference February 8th that 1170 01:49:50,820 --> 01:49:54,800 comments were open and were extended to February 25th and that it would be 1171 01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:56,080 implemented March 1st 1172 01:49:58,740 --> 01:49:59,760 State of work. There you go. 1173 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:24,320 So I just, I wanted to bring this to your attention because as a huge impact and the whole aquatic's professionals community is. We want to do best practice. Should it be the law? No, no, no, you said something earlier that east side, you know, east side versus west side. What's the difference? Well, we met as an east side. We have a dry sideers meeting that we do every quarter. So it's, we do too. 1174 01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:28,960 Or Boardman, Hermiston, Ontario, the Mac, 1175 01:50:30,100 --> 01:50:31,160 Primeville, Sisters. 1176 01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:34,520 It's like all of us that have facilities on this side of the map. 1177 01:50:34,620 --> 01:50:36,680 But the rules aren't different for Eastern and Western. 1178 01:50:36,900 --> 01:50:37,620 No, no, no, no. 1179 01:50:37,620 --> 01:50:39,260 Okay, so this impacts everybody. 1180 01:50:39,480 --> 01:50:42,020 And to all it's in hills, they have their own, you know, 1181 01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:43,480 they have a lot of money. 1182 01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:46,120 They have their own legislative people that are on this, too. 1183 01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:51,560 But, you know, we don't have those kind of resources as dry ciders, 1184 01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:53,560 which is why we meet together. 1185 01:50:54,580 --> 01:50:55,140 There you go. 1186 01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:56,000 What hurts? 1187 01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:57,960 So you said you and Matilda, right? 1188 01:50:58,020 --> 01:50:58,520 You're Hermiston? 1189 01:50:58,800 --> 01:50:58,980 Yep. 1190 01:50:59,780 --> 01:51:01,720 Who else would be a big, big player? 1191 01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:02,600 Boardman. 1192 01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:04,400 Ontario. 1193 01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:06,240 LaGrand. 1194 01:51:07,660 --> 01:51:08,080 Union. 1195 01:51:08,440 --> 01:51:08,920 Malala. 1196 01:51:09,300 --> 01:51:11,700 It's not dry ciders, but they have a small district. 1197 01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:14,140 Beautiful place, too. 1198 01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:14,900 Court County. 1199 01:51:15,740 --> 01:51:15,920 Really? 1200 01:51:16,380 --> 01:51:18,000 They have their outdoor pool during the summer. 1201 01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:20,140 I mean, some of the outdoor pools in the summer 1202 01:51:20,140 --> 01:51:22,180 have different rules than what we do. 1203 01:51:22,540 --> 01:51:25,120 I'm assuming Kanita is also impacted potentially 1204 01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:27,060 as an aquatic facility. 1205 01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:30,560 I'm assuming that Redmond is impacted 1206 01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:32,700 as they're building an aquatic facility 1207 01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:35,240 because there's also a whole bunch of new rules 1208 01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:37,240 about building new facilities that we, 1209 01:51:37,940 --> 01:51:39,680 unless we substantially alter, 1210 01:51:39,900 --> 01:51:40,880 which we can't get an answer with, 1211 01:51:40,940 --> 01:51:44,140 that means I'm guessing we're doing locker rooms 1212 01:51:44,140 --> 01:51:45,440 as substantially altering. 1213 01:51:46,020 --> 01:51:47,160 Then you have to come into compliance 1214 01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:47,920 with the building stuff. 1215 01:51:47,920 --> 01:52:20,110 That's cool. So you said you don't know what the penalties are for non-compliance quite yet because there is there in your dry ciders meeting is there a consensus that you know can be united front on OK, yes, I would say even be with the Aquatics professionals community. There's a united for good because that's always a good way to get your voice. Yeah, do you want to go to the next one? Why I'm really here. So 1216 01:52:20,650 --> 01:52:26,430 Historically, the county has given us a tax anticipation loan to get us through July to November 1217 01:52:26,430 --> 01:52:31,610 when property tax revenues come in. It's a loan. It's mutually beneficial. Y'all make 6% 1218 01:52:31,610 --> 01:52:36,530 interest off of us. And then we get to have cash flow for those months before the property 1219 01:52:36,530 --> 01:52:42,590 taxes come in. This year it's even more critical. We are looking to end the fiscal year in a deficit. 1220 01:52:43,490 --> 01:52:49,650 And so those funds would be super helpful in May and June to get us through that piece. And then 1221 01:52:49,650 --> 01:52:51,670 and also to get us through to November. 1222 01:52:52,170 --> 01:52:55,750 If the measures pass, we need, we hope, 1223 01:52:56,350 --> 01:52:59,310 to try and hire staff as soon as humanly possible 1224 01:52:59,310 --> 01:53:00,730 so that we can ramp up our hours. 1225 01:53:00,830 --> 01:53:02,610 Because when people vote and they see it passed, 1226 01:53:02,830 --> 01:53:05,310 they're gonna expect that we have the hours immediately. 1227 01:53:06,150 --> 01:53:08,910 It's gonna take us a minute to get people lifeguards certified 1228 01:53:08,910 --> 01:53:10,630 and hired and all that kind of stuff. 1229 01:53:11,630 --> 01:53:14,150 So if we have a larger tax anticipation loan, 1230 01:53:14,450 --> 01:53:17,130 last year you gave us 250,000. 1231 01:53:17,130 --> 01:53:20,310 and we use 212,000 of it. 1232 01:53:22,430 --> 01:53:26,190 This year we're hoping for 400,000 so that we can, 1233 01:53:26,250 --> 01:53:27,730 like I said, quickly on board new staff. 1234 01:53:29,170 --> 01:53:32,150 If the measures don't pass, we won't need 400,000. 1235 01:53:32,390 --> 01:53:34,150 Part of it's going to depend on what the board decides 1236 01:53:34,670 --> 01:53:36,330 if we're going to operate the pool this summer, 1237 01:53:37,210 --> 01:53:40,950 if we're going to do any programming, what that looks like. 1238 01:53:41,570 --> 01:53:45,450 Because if we do, if the measures don't pass, 1239 01:53:45,450 --> 01:53:50,250 will be probably laying staff off like the middle of June as soon as we're done 1240 01:53:50,250 --> 01:53:52,710 with the school year and I don't know what kind of staffing we'll have for the 1241 01:53:52,710 --> 01:53:57,650 summer so it could be that we need less but within that tax anticipation loan 1242 01:53:57,650 --> 01:54:03,250 50,000 of it is earmarked to replace our domestic water heater I've got to 1243 01:54:03,250 --> 01:54:08,830 reset her we call her her she's very temperamental got her about 30 times a 1244 01:54:08,830 --> 01:54:17,210 day right now to try and keep the showers warm. She's 20 years old, 17 years old, operating 24 1245 01:54:17,210 --> 01:54:22,650 seven. So I got some quotes. The quotes came back at about 42,000. So I've got a little bit of 1246 01:54:22,650 --> 01:54:27,250 a buffer in there just in case they've got to replace piping and that kind of stuff. But again, 1247 01:54:27,250 --> 01:54:32,550 that's all part of the loan that we will repay and that we are paying 6% interest on. So 1248 01:54:32,550 --> 01:54:39,270 So we're hoping that the county is still open to providing that tax anticipation loan as 1249 01:54:39,270 --> 01:54:42,890 I said, a mutually beneficial loan to us. 1250 01:54:43,410 --> 01:54:49,890 So I love, you know, loans versus just grant, my name's given out, or whatever. 1251 01:54:53,260 --> 01:54:57,400 So you typically asked for 200,000, you want to double that to 400,000? 1252 01:54:57,400 --> 01:54:57,880 Right. 1253 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:09,220 If you don't receive the $400,000, $50,000 out of that $200, we'll still go to the heater, okay? So if it, if, 1254 01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:32,160 if it doesn't pass, you just, you said that, um, you won't need all the $400,000. So my thought is, can we give you, is it possible to give you the current loan of $200,000? And then, if it's, 1255 01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:37,680 Passes come back for the remainder of what you need or is that yes 1256 01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:40,640 Last year was 250 1257 01:55:41,420 --> 01:55:47,640 So I would ask you to keep it. That's what I had that number down 250 and then when you said 200 1258 01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:51,480 I was like oh, where am I used to be 200 than it got up last year. Okay 1259 01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:56,220 Part of it is that we close every September and we do a lot of maintenance and things 1260 01:55:56,220 --> 01:56:01,380 And so we have a lot of expenses that month before we get our taxes in so the 250 helps us 1261 01:56:02,160 --> 01:56:08,400 deal with that. So yes, it would be totally reasonable and acceptable and helpful to get 1262 01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:12,820 the 250 kind of approved. And then if the measures pass, we can come back and ask for 1263 01:56:12,820 --> 01:56:13,420 the additional. 1264 01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:17,580 Is that a problem with our budget? Oh, is that going to be good to work with our budget? 1265 01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:25,200 Okay. No, not in the funds that we typically utilize to provide this anticipation. Okay. 1266 01:56:25,660 --> 01:56:30,840 It would help us. Commissioner Taylor to have a sense of whether or not the commission 1267 01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:35,340 would approve up to that 400 so that as we're doing our budgeting and planning 1268 01:56:35,340 --> 01:56:39,660 that we have a sense if that's an option or if I need to figure out 1269 01:56:39,660 --> 01:56:42,580 alternatives or really hit home that we're not going to be able to increase 1270 01:56:42,580 --> 01:56:51,880 staffing until January. I my personal belief just begin for myself as I I really 1271 01:56:51,880 --> 01:56:57,440 want to wait and see what our community says before I commit to that much more 1272 01:56:57,440 --> 01:57:02,420 alone because my fear is if we give you $400,000, that's the ability to pay it back if 1273 01:57:02,420 --> 01:57:09,200 it doesn't go through. And so it comes back. It comes right out. Okay. You just pull 1274 01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:13,360 it right out. You just pull it right out of property taxes. So it goes to that money. 1275 01:57:14,160 --> 01:57:18,920 100% guarantee it gets paid out. Okay. Okay. 1276 01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:24,920 I'm on board with supporting the pool. I'm on board 1277 01:57:24,920 --> 01:57:30,740 to support in the pool for what you're asking if our constituents approve it. 1278 01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:35,380 If I could, if I could say support in the district, because it's more than the pool, it's 1279 01:57:35,380 --> 01:57:38,040 also all the space in the enrichment and all the things. 1280 01:57:39,580 --> 01:57:43,720 We're trying to help people remember to see the whole thing. 1281 01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:52,280 Yeah, no, I think myself included, I see no reason why we wouldn't continue the $250,000 1282 01:57:52,280 --> 01:57:58,060 Now, wait and see how the voters feel about the measure. 1283 01:57:58,620 --> 01:58:03,740 And if they're in support, I definitely want to be that good partner and bridge that gap. 1284 01:58:04,720 --> 01:58:06,540 And so I think it comes down to the voters. 1285 01:58:06,540 --> 01:58:14,380 If they support the work you guys are doing and what you're proposed, I would be the vote of yes, 1286 01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:20,580 how can we help you get there with this guarantee approval by the voters? 1287 01:58:20,580 --> 01:58:24,300 So yeah, that's where I'm at. 1288 01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:29,680 I just want to add really briefly that there's a really active group right now that I'm 1289 01:58:29,680 --> 01:58:35,760 a part of the back of the MACRD going out and marketing the measures. 1290 01:58:36,180 --> 01:58:38,180 So there's two measures again this year. 1291 01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:39,500 We have to dissolve and reform. 1292 01:58:39,940 --> 01:58:41,240 It is not a bond. 1293 01:58:42,020 --> 01:58:43,480 It's to dissolve the district. 1294 01:58:43,480 --> 01:58:46,840 You have to vote yes on that and then vote yes to reform. 1295 01:58:46,840 --> 01:58:53,220 So we're really trying to get the messaging out because we were only short by 95 votes on the dissolving part 1296 01:58:53,220 --> 01:59:00,160 And I think it was very confusing for our constituents last year and so I do not think it was a lack of support 1297 01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:05,800 I think it was the confusion of the ballot and so that's why we're pretty aggressively getting out there with the two yeses 1298 01:59:06,340 --> 01:59:11,120 So trying to spread that word it's voting yes twice if you really do want to support 1299 01:59:11,120 --> 01:59:16,540 No. No. No. Thank you to the commissioners for supporting that measure. Yeah. No, it's 1300 01:59:16,540 --> 01:59:22,020 confusing. I think when we all started this conversation previously, it was confusing 1301 01:59:22,020 --> 01:59:28,460 to us as well as you guys and like all that happened. So the confusion from the voter standpoint 1302 01:59:28,460 --> 01:59:36,120 is challenging. And so I hope you guys success in that education piece because it's difficult 1303 01:59:36,120 --> 01:59:37,820 to explain that. 1304 01:59:38,420 --> 01:59:41,120 So Jeff had something like that. 1305 01:59:41,720 --> 01:59:44,400 If you guys are, kind of, it sounds like 1306 01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:48,620 I can't wish to be on the level of 400 in the past. 1307 01:59:49,080 --> 01:59:50,420 Who could do one moment? 1308 01:59:51,480 --> 01:59:52,440 That says 250. 1309 01:59:53,240 --> 01:59:56,940 If 250 is supposed to be that only first, 1310 01:59:57,280 --> 01:59:59,040 but the payment on the last day at November. 1311 02:00:14,700 --> 02:00:29,100 What I want to know is how valuable is the $50,000 earmark for that domestic water? How does it relate to operations as of today? Is it just a pain in the butt? Because you're going to reset it 30 times? Or is it just flat we're not providing hot water to people taking charge? Depends on the day. 1312 02:00:31,120 --> 02:00:35,960 I mean, if I had, if I had money sitting in a bank account would have been replaced six months ago. 1313 02:00:37,700 --> 02:00:39,640 I mean, it would have been replaced. 1314 02:00:39,860 --> 02:00:46,820 It's more like also customers has faction like having small children that get cold in the pool really easily can't go warm up. 1315 02:00:47,580 --> 02:00:48,920 Right. Well, that's my point. 1316 02:00:49,120 --> 02:00:57,280 I think I've been an advocate in this conversation about the 250 loan and then an advocate for the 50,000 just because it is an asset. 1317 02:00:57,840 --> 02:01:01,500 Now, whether you guys run or not in the future, that's to be told here soon. 1318 02:01:01,500 --> 02:01:08,340 right so somebody's going to need a $50,000 water heater at some point you know 1319 02:01:08,340 --> 02:01:13,880 if this I mean it's not going to sit up their idle no matter what right so I 1320 02:01:13,880 --> 02:01:19,200 would be an advocate for doing 300 at this time to allow them 250 you just kind 1321 02:01:19,200 --> 02:01:24,380 of look at 250 is hey this is operations that gets them through the 50 is this 1322 02:01:24,380 --> 02:01:31,160 tangible piece of equipment that is necessary for the you know to make it run and 1323 02:01:31,160 --> 02:01:34,180 And like I said, if you're going to, it's all not marketing, if you're going to 1324 02:01:34,180 --> 02:01:38,780 tell people, hey, we need you to pass these bonds, and I would have if you had 1325 02:01:38,780 --> 02:01:42,360 warm showers, you know, and I don't want that to be a, I don't want that to be 1326 02:01:42,360 --> 02:01:48,300 a detriment. So there's no difference. Again, coming back to my eyes anyways, there's 1327 02:01:48,300 --> 02:01:52,180 no difference between loan and your 350 because it's collected, we collected 1328 02:01:52,180 --> 02:01:56,000 anyways. We're going to get paid. That's a guarantee that, you know, the 1329 02:01:56,000 --> 02:02:00,520 community needs to understand fully that this isn't a giveaway. This is your 1330 02:02:00,520 --> 02:02:07,220 money that's coming in and if you tell me I need it right now that's fine. I do I do admire 1331 02:02:07,220 --> 02:02:11,000 the other commissioners and I'm not putting words hopefully not putting words in your mouth but 1332 02:02:11,000 --> 02:02:16,960 I do admire the fact that we want to see what the pulse of the community is as to what it's going 1333 02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:25,320 to look like but I don't think fifty thousand dollar water heater is too much of an ask that's my own 1334 02:02:26,020 --> 02:02:29,580 But they can use 50 grand out of the 250 in the meantime, all right? 1335 02:02:29,940 --> 02:02:37,160 Because you used 212 to the last year up until the taxes came in, so November 8th. 1336 02:02:37,160 --> 02:02:40,980 Well, and frankly, the measures don't pass and we're at the 250, we're not even going 1337 02:02:40,980 --> 02:02:44,720 to use that, because the pool might be shut down and we won't be doing any other programming 1338 02:02:44,720 --> 02:02:45,400 or activities. 1339 02:02:46,280 --> 02:02:48,140 So 300,000 wouldn't change? 1340 02:02:48,140 --> 02:02:48,400 Right. 1341 02:02:48,640 --> 02:02:50,240 I actually think 250 is okay. 1342 02:02:50,760 --> 02:02:53,100 I mean, I appreciate the sentiment, for sure. 1343 02:02:53,740 --> 02:02:58,580 because then we can plan to actually replace it in May June instead of waiting until September 1344 02:02:58,580 --> 02:03:05,680 because that 250 will come in May 1st so that's actually super helpful in itself to keep it at 1345 02:03:05,680 --> 02:03:13,480 the 250 but I mean I would rather not because I think when we calculate interest it would not be calculated 1346 02:03:13,480 --> 02:03:21,500 on the extra 150 until we get it in July so I'd rather not pay 6% on that 50,000 if I can save it. 1347 02:03:21,500 --> 02:03:24,560 So you just snatched it from the victor, the jaws of victory here. 1348 02:03:24,780 --> 02:03:25,480 It's fine. 1349 02:03:26,580 --> 02:03:26,820 Fine. 1350 02:03:27,020 --> 02:03:27,820 I appreciate it. 1351 02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:29,660 Oh, that's fine. 1352 02:03:31,200 --> 02:03:38,660 Is that something we would entertain as Jess Proposal of 250 May 1st? 1353 02:03:38,660 --> 02:03:39,380 May 1st. 1354 02:03:39,400 --> 02:03:46,900 And then if both measures pass July 1st, increasing it up to 400. 1355 02:03:46,900 --> 02:03:51,560 and so another 150 July for dependent on the measures. 1356 02:03:52,440 --> 02:03:55,620 So it's more streamlined, everything's set in place 1357 02:03:55,620 --> 02:03:58,220 and as soon as that vote count, 1358 02:03:59,380 --> 02:04:02,600 you guys know we know and there's a plan. 1359 02:04:03,320 --> 02:04:04,740 Is that, no, that's great. 1360 02:04:07,000 --> 02:04:08,520 We need a motion for that. 1361 02:04:08,740 --> 02:04:11,840 No, we'll do a loan agreement. 1362 02:04:12,240 --> 02:04:15,420 I have Alexa work to see if they can get it on there 1363 02:04:15,420 --> 02:04:17,060 or whatever your next board meeting. 1364 02:04:17,060 --> 02:04:19,180 March 19th. 1365 02:04:21,330 --> 02:04:21,770 I'll give that. 1366 02:04:22,850 --> 02:04:24,010 Alexis Browning in work. 1367 02:04:24,630 --> 02:04:25,470 No pun intended. 1368 02:04:27,170 --> 02:04:28,650 As always, thank you, Lexi. 1369 02:04:29,370 --> 02:04:31,270 So, staff directed. 1370 02:04:32,190 --> 02:04:32,550 Thank you. 1371 02:04:33,810 --> 02:04:37,670 What, uh, just, uh, this doesn't put pay any. 1372 02:04:37,950 --> 02:04:38,530 I know you can't. 1373 02:04:39,150 --> 02:04:41,550 What is the, uh, are we having town halls? 1374 02:04:41,710 --> 02:04:44,490 We haven't, are we going to get really serious about. 1375 02:04:45,670 --> 02:04:47,550 Not saying that you're not serious, but. 1376 02:04:47,550 --> 02:04:59,270 I know that the back of the MACRD local action committee is active, they've been tabling 1377 02:04:59,270 --> 02:04:59,450 it. 1378 02:05:12,420 --> 02:05:20,780 No, we're just going to be sending blackmailers, firing cars, being present at local events. 1379 02:05:21,120 --> 02:05:26,880 Anyone has feedback? I just came out with the postcard. Scott Taylor is our spokesperson 1380 02:05:26,880 --> 02:05:36,060 person this year and I'm the Vice Chair for that committee. What the building 1381 02:05:36,060 --> 02:05:43,680 itself, the bond on the building, it's done win. June, this June, 2025. So we have 1382 02:05:43,680 --> 02:05:49,860 two months or three months to pay on it basically. Then it goes away. Yes. That's why 1383 02:05:49,860 --> 02:05:53,400 we're trying to roll that into the permanent tax rate that we're establishing. 1384 02:05:54,380 --> 02:05:58,420 or it goes completely away so that it will keep the current tax rate. 1385 02:05:58,520 --> 02:06:04,980 Yeah, no, I've understood it. I just was curious because I hear conflicting things. 1386 02:06:05,180 --> 02:06:08,660 I thought it was coming up soon and then I've got other people coming out. 1387 02:06:08,840 --> 02:06:11,020 No, the other beer. That's not true. 1388 02:06:12,040 --> 02:06:18,360 To the measures do not pass, we will levy the bond next year for an amount to pay back alone 1389 02:06:18,360 --> 02:06:22,000 that the general fund has to make to the debt service fund to make the final payment 1390 02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:29,940 because of the PG&E tax refund situation so we will levy convoluted much less than we have 1391 02:06:29,940 --> 02:06:34,960 historically to make that general loan payment back if the measures do not pass. 1392 02:06:35,080 --> 02:06:38,960 All right we've got staff got everybody got idea what we're doing direction. 1393 02:06:40,340 --> 02:06:50,240 Yes thank you guys absolutely hey boss man do we think yeah let's take a quick little break we're 1394 02:06:50,240 --> 02:06:54,540 We're behind schedules and then we'll come back and jump through some of these things 1395 02:06:54,540 --> 02:06:59,660 real quick. So let's be back in three minutes. 1396 02:07:09,940 --> 02:07:17,900 Okay, welcome back. Let's go back to the beginning here. I would entertain a motion on the consent 1397 02:07:17,900 --> 02:07:22,480 agenda. There's one move to approve consent agenda six one through six three second. 1398 02:07:25,300 --> 02:07:26,860 Any further discussion? 1399 02:07:27,060 --> 02:07:32,340 All those in favor of approval of consent agenda item 612 and 3. 1400 02:07:32,600 --> 02:07:33,460 Please state by saying aye. 1401 02:07:33,620 --> 02:07:33,800 Aye. 1402 02:07:34,780 --> 02:07:35,160 Aye. 1403 02:07:35,540 --> 02:07:36,120 Motion carries. 1404 02:07:38,280 --> 02:07:41,400 Good executive session that we're late for at 10 p.m. 1405 02:07:41,780 --> 02:07:46,080 6 o'clock Board of Commissioner Meeney and Senator Ranch tonight. 1406 02:07:46,080 --> 02:07:49,160 And 8-1 GIS. 1407 02:07:56,020 --> 02:07:57,840 Yeah, can you do it please. 1408 02:08:00,160 --> 02:08:02,460 Any staff update on this? 1409 02:08:06,470 --> 02:08:06,810 State one. 1410 02:08:07,110 --> 02:08:13,230 Standard MOU with City of Madras for GIS transfer of information. 1411 02:08:18,080 --> 02:08:24,360 I know it's a data sharing agreement that I have reviewed, but I don't know what it entails. 1412 02:08:24,600 --> 02:08:26,080 That's a GIS moisture for sure. 1413 02:08:26,980 --> 02:08:30,840 If we were going to send a letter to somebody that would know what would be I'd put on the 1414 02:08:30,840 --> 02:08:31,480 front of the envelope. 1415 02:08:31,820 --> 02:08:31,920 Boo. 1416 02:08:33,820 --> 02:08:34,780 G-I-S. 1417 02:08:36,300 --> 02:08:36,700 Ray? 1418 02:08:42,520 --> 02:08:43,420 Ray is on there. 1419 02:08:43,880 --> 02:08:44,360 Are you there, Ray? 1420 02:08:47,400 --> 02:08:47,480 Cool. 1421 02:08:49,440 --> 02:08:50,300 He's running down. 1422 02:08:51,520 --> 02:08:51,760 Come here. 1423 02:08:51,920 --> 02:08:52,640 Keep going. 1424 02:08:52,760 --> 02:08:53,020 I'll go. 1425 02:08:53,320 --> 02:08:53,800 That's great. 1426 02:08:54,000 --> 02:08:54,180 Come here. 1427 02:08:54,200 --> 02:08:54,320 Okay. 1428 02:08:54,780 --> 02:08:55,960 Let's go eight four. 1429 02:09:00,540 --> 02:09:04,160 The motion to prove the salary change order for Isaac Blair building inspector two. 1430 02:09:05,240 --> 02:09:05,640 Six. 1431 02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:13,900 I think this is just continuing Isaac stepping up and 1432 02:09:13,900 --> 02:09:18,220 open us in that interim and some vacancies. 1433 02:09:18,560 --> 02:09:22,260 So appreciate Isaac for doing that and want to make sure he's 1434 02:09:22,260 --> 02:09:25,040 compensated for that extra work that he's doing. 1435 02:09:26,160 --> 02:09:27,160 Any further discussion? 1436 02:09:27,920 --> 02:09:30,900 All those in favor of the salary changer for Isaac? 1437 02:09:31,300 --> 02:09:32,400 Please state by saying aye. 1438 02:09:32,920 --> 02:09:38,280 All right. Hi, motion carries back to 8-1 with our GIS 1439 02:09:39,320 --> 02:09:45,180 Exchange of data with the city of Madras. Ray, thank you. Good morning, commissioners, 1440 02:09:45,320 --> 02:09:50,760 Racelese Jefferson County Assessor's Office. This is our memorandum of understanding, 1441 02:09:51,220 --> 02:09:56,820 same as what we established with Jefferson County soil and water district and it's just for our 1442 02:09:56,820 --> 02:09:59,980 annual subscription. You've already approved that MOU. It's the same. 1443 02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:09,930 Okay. Okay. Thank you for that. I will motion to approve the memorandum of 1444 02:10:09,930 --> 02:10:14,470 understanding between Jefferson County and the city of Madras for the exchange of GIS data. 1445 02:10:16,580 --> 02:10:22,180 Second. A motion of the second. Any further discussion on the motion? 1446 02:10:24,400 --> 02:10:24,640 All 1447 02:10:24,640 --> 02:10:25,780 those in favor say aye. 1448 02:10:28,940 --> 02:10:35,620 I. I mean, I think he's not playing around with it. Motion carries. 1449 02:10:35,620 --> 02:10:38,080 Please, that was for you, Will. 1450 02:10:41,040 --> 02:10:42,700 Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate it. 1451 02:10:42,760 --> 02:10:43,240 Thank you, Ray. 1452 02:10:43,760 --> 02:10:43,980 Appreciate it. 1453 02:10:48,060 --> 02:10:48,780 I'm correct. 1454 02:10:48,920 --> 02:10:50,100 If I'm wrong, staff. 1455 02:10:50,440 --> 02:10:51,700 We are scratch and eat five. 1456 02:10:53,480 --> 02:10:53,700 Okay. 1457 02:10:55,670 --> 02:10:56,450 We're under needed. 1458 02:10:57,790 --> 02:10:59,310 Eight sex is this Tony? 1459 02:10:59,910 --> 02:11:00,190 Eight sex. 1460 02:11:00,850 --> 02:11:01,010 Yes. 1461 02:11:01,310 --> 02:11:06,050 Change order for our Sheriff's Office public health storage building. 1462 02:11:06,770 --> 02:11:12,210 change order number two is the mobile health clinic plug-in. It's a 220 plug-in. 1463 02:11:12,570 --> 02:11:18,950 It can be added so they can keep their clinic, mobile clinic or batteries 1464 02:11:18,950 --> 02:11:26,190 charge things cool. The HVAC permits that we normally cover. They went ahead 1465 02:11:26,190 --> 02:11:30,330 and purchased them just because the contractor purchased them because of 1466 02:11:30,330 --> 02:11:35,110 timing. So he purchased them and then so this is basically counting for those 1467 02:11:35,110 --> 02:11:41,270 cost. Change order three is the electrical overhead doors. So the contractor 1468 02:11:41,270 --> 02:11:46,170 originally thought that that was part of the bid. So he purchased them and is 1469 02:11:46,170 --> 02:11:51,350 willing to eat that cost. But there is a change order for $7,200 for getting 1470 02:11:51,350 --> 02:11:55,310 the electricity to six grudge. Yeah, six grudge door. 1471 02:12:00,220 --> 02:12:04,720 I like him eating the cost. I do think it's going to be beneficial just to have 1472 02:12:04,720 --> 02:12:11,740 electric roll up over manual or because of the variety of staff they'll be using the doors 1473 02:12:12,400 --> 02:12:14,660 both on public outside and sheriff's side. 1474 02:12:14,680 --> 02:12:18,360 Trying to initial cost, we try to keep costs as low as we could just so. 1475 02:12:18,560 --> 02:12:19,640 Absolutely, and I appreciate that. 1476 02:12:20,980 --> 02:12:22,660 There is a value for sure. 1477 02:12:22,740 --> 02:12:27,300 Yep, huge value and we're getting this counted rate and that value. 1478 02:12:29,260 --> 02:12:30,460 Okay, all motion approved. 1479 02:12:30,640 --> 02:12:33,740 The purchase requisition form sheriff's office and public health storage, 1480 02:12:33,740 --> 02:12:37,720 building change order number two and number three in the amount of $12,200. 1481 02:12:38,320 --> 02:12:38,640 Second. 1482 02:12:39,440 --> 02:12:41,880 The motion in a second, any further discussion. 1483 02:12:43,200 --> 02:12:50,220 I just want to appreciate staff for keeping the project lean and 1484 02:12:50,220 --> 02:12:56,980 mean and on line with the estimate and the budget, so I appreciate that. 1485 02:12:57,260 --> 02:13:01,300 And we went and saw it last week and it's really good and 1486 02:13:01,300 --> 02:13:06,740 going to benefit both departments well and thank you departments for working together 1487 02:13:06,740 --> 02:13:15,460 and leveraging your finances to have this asset and it's easier for both. 1488 02:13:15,920 --> 02:13:21,620 So appreciate it. Any further discussion? All those in favor of the purchase 1489 02:13:21,620 --> 02:13:25,340 requisition form for the change order of number two and number three please 1490 02:13:25,340 --> 02:13:29,120 signify by saying aye aye motion carries 1491 02:13:29,120 --> 02:13:31,560 thank you thank you Tony 1492 02:13:34,510 --> 02:13:36,970 e7 is that you Jeff 1493 02:13:37,790 --> 02:13:41,290 8 7 is yes it's the actual action you 1494 02:13:41,290 --> 02:13:45,150 guys took last week to read through the 1495 02:13:45,150 --> 02:13:46,810 job description for the public work 1496 02:13:46,810 --> 02:13:48,370 structure okay 1497 02:13:50,990 --> 02:13:52,410 I'll move to sign the 1498 02:13:52,410 --> 02:13:53,490 salary change order for Matt 1499 02:13:53,490 --> 02:13:57,050 palison the great one at public work 1500 02:13:57,050 --> 02:13:57,530 director. 1501 02:13:59,660 --> 02:14:07,400 I'll second it motion in a second any further discussion all those in favor please 1502 02:14:07,400 --> 02:14:19,460 signify by saying aye aye motion carries do we have Robert yet okay just let me know when he's 1503 02:14:19,460 --> 02:14:26,860 available I think he's doing some travel this morning so elected official reports do you have any other 1504 02:14:26,860 --> 02:14:33,160 elected updates sheriff gave a 1505 02:14:37,380 --> 02:14:41,000 do you have anything if so chime in don't 1506 02:14:43,780 --> 02:14:44,020 see 1507 02:14:44,020 --> 02:14:49,200 anyone else department head reports Katie 1508 02:14:51,250 --> 02:14:53,870 Tony Diane any other reports 1509 02:14:55,370 --> 02:14:56,110 Okay, 1510 02:14:58,190 --> 02:14:59,570 we'll come back to Robert. 1511 02:15:00,590 --> 02:15:30,570 County Council report. Okay, thank you. County administrative officer. Yeah, it's going back to the Ed Coe discussion regarding the $10,000 invoice to remain a platinum member. Front of you is the interlocal, sorry, the memorandum of understanding between the city of Madras and Ed Coe on page three, 2.6. The question was if there is a need for 1512 02:15:30,570 --> 02:15:34,410 us to continue to be a platinum member for the extra seat. 1513 02:15:34,730 --> 02:15:43,320 So in that paragraph, it says that for the period of this MOU, the city and county 1514 02:15:43,320 --> 02:15:46,720 will each have one appointed representative serving on the Edco board. 1515 02:15:47,140 --> 02:15:51,940 Additional seats may be retained through ongoing platinum membership already in place. 1516 02:15:56,440 --> 02:15:59,400 So we get one seat, maybe, in a platinum member. 1517 02:15:59,600 --> 02:16:03,440 What is the makeup with the program? 1518 02:16:04,080 --> 02:16:09,020 So yeah, so I was kind of going the other way sorry my coworker yeah so we 1519 02:16:09,020 --> 02:16:14,020 get one member for being a partner of the local program and so if we 1520 02:16:14,020 --> 02:16:17,440 continue to be a platinum member I would say this year is the year that we 1521 02:16:17,440 --> 02:16:21,940 would then have some type of decision for you all to make on who would take 1522 02:16:21,940 --> 02:16:28,320 the platinum level seat a new seat a new seat and I know we would still have a 1523 02:16:28,320 --> 02:16:32,980 a commissioner or potential through the program. 1524 02:16:33,280 --> 02:16:33,760 Yes. 1525 02:16:34,040 --> 02:16:37,080 So there'd be one, what other seats do we have with the program? 1526 02:16:38,020 --> 02:16:39,280 The city would have one. 1527 02:16:39,560 --> 02:16:40,380 The city would have one? 1528 02:16:40,560 --> 02:16:44,440 If the city and the county each independently do a $10,000 1529 02:16:44,440 --> 02:16:47,860 and then we'd have another one seat each that they would appoint. 1530 02:16:48,780 --> 02:16:50,760 And then you would appoint as well. 1531 02:16:51,180 --> 02:16:51,440 Okay. 1532 02:16:51,680 --> 02:16:52,180 You would select. 1533 02:16:53,500 --> 02:16:56,480 When we had some early discussions in the kind of the program 1534 02:16:56,480 --> 02:17:24,340 I'm going to make up Will and I, and maybe John and Kim and who else, you know, talk to potentially about trying to bring back some financial partners to help fund the local program and potentially how you would, the county may have been, it just made a 10,000 level and then look to that community partner that's also contributing to our local program and offer this as a kind of a care. 1535 02:17:24,340 --> 02:17:30,560 If you come in at a certain level and buy down the cost of the local program, don't tell 1536 02:17:30,560 --> 02:17:35,320 John Stark or Brenna, but you can have a seat on the board for not having to pay 10,000 1537 02:17:35,320 --> 02:17:41,580 of your own platinum level but maybe 5,000 to our local program and you can have a seat 1538 02:17:41,580 --> 02:17:43,160 or something like that. 1539 02:17:46,760 --> 02:17:52,500 So the question is do we want to continue at the $10,000 level to have that additional 1540 02:17:52,500 --> 02:17:55,920 When is this decision need to be? 1541 02:17:56,260 --> 02:17:58,780 I think the invoice is a calendar year invoice, 1542 02:17:58,780 --> 02:18:04,400 so we're approaching some level of tardiness. 1543 02:18:04,920 --> 02:18:05,260 Tardiness? 1544 02:18:07,410 --> 02:18:08,910 2025 dues. 1545 02:18:09,710 --> 02:18:10,570 The invoice was dated. 1546 02:18:11,250 --> 02:18:15,970 Do we have a potential interest 1547 02:18:18,080 --> 02:18:24,130 in that extra seat, 1548 02:18:25,230 --> 02:18:28,110 if we were to do something like that through the program? 1549 02:18:29,310 --> 02:18:33,090 I haven't heard anything but my guess is we would if we offered it. 1550 02:18:33,270 --> 02:18:35,670 Offered the opportunity to one of your programs, you know, 1551 02:18:35,750 --> 02:18:40,390 it could be one of your folks that you've been appointed to the local advisory group 1552 02:18:41,030 --> 02:18:45,750 until for a year and see what you want to do kind of a yearly decision. 1553 02:18:47,270 --> 02:18:52,050 I personally think that continuing with this for at least another year, 1554 02:18:53,510 --> 02:19:12,510 especially as we're going through our strategic plan of our county and developing a strategic plan, I think it would be beneficial to continue this for another year and at least have another seat of the table to kind of help in our transition of implementing our, it comes down to implementing our strategic plan for our county and it comes to economic development. 1555 02:19:17,280 --> 02:19:17,720 I 1556 02:19:22,260 --> 02:19:28,320 don't know. I'm torn because I'd like to say I'd rather say I'm not going to take 1557 02:19:28,320 --> 02:19:33,160 that 10 out of the budget, but I'd almost say I'd rather have our program director having 1558 02:19:33,160 --> 02:19:38,700 some tools in their tilt tool belt to achieve with that 10,000 as opposed to having another 1559 02:19:39,400 --> 02:19:44,060 representative. I mean, I think at some point that table is so huge, you know, it's size 1560 02:19:44,060 --> 02:19:48,160 of this room going around. I don't know what another voice from this community is going 1561 02:19:48,160 --> 02:19:52,060 to do. I mean the possibility of selling it, if you will, for half. 1562 02:19:54,760 --> 02:19:56,120 But like I said, 1563 02:19:56,120 --> 02:19:59,320 I'd kind of rather have, rent a head with an extra 10,000. 1564 02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:29,520 Is in the budget for ancillary stuff, you know, we've talked to, we've talked videos, we've talked, you know, advertising, you know, those types of things that would be a bigger picture of how we sell this community to this county to outsiders, you know, as opposed to another just another Z voting member who cares. That's true. I don't know. But what's, can I gas, can I ask, when you can do your comments, still, but I mean, 1565 02:20:29,520 --> 02:20:31,520 Brenna, would you come up? 1566 02:20:32,660 --> 02:20:35,720 What is the advantage disadvantage in your opinion? 1567 02:20:36,940 --> 02:20:37,060 Yeah. 1568 02:20:40,520 --> 02:20:41,780 Yeah, that's a really good question. 1569 02:20:41,960 --> 02:20:44,440 And I think, you know what, it really does, 1570 02:20:44,620 --> 02:20:46,580 and I don't mean to give you the diplomatic response, 1571 02:20:46,580 --> 02:20:48,620 but I think it really does come down to preference. 1572 02:20:49,500 --> 02:20:53,380 I would never argue against more tools in the toolbox, so to speak. 1573 02:20:54,360 --> 02:20:57,640 We also have a really great group at the local level on the local board, 1574 02:20:57,800 --> 02:21:00,320 so I could see where that would be a great opportunity as well. 1575 02:21:00,960 --> 02:21:04,540 but again it really comes down to preference but like I said I would never say 1576 02:21:04,540 --> 02:21:10,200 no to more tools in the toolbox. But we have you, we have Mark, no matter what. 1577 02:21:10,440 --> 02:21:16,180 City has two spots, am I correct? They have two. Correct, they have two. 1578 02:21:16,920 --> 02:21:21,100 I guess my point is that if we had 10,000 I'd rather go dangle that carrot out in 1579 02:21:21,100 --> 02:21:26,200 front of our business, you know, our business is et cetera and say hey can 1580 02:21:26,200 --> 02:21:31,800 you matches five on doing this project or whatever you know and we have something to pull 1581 02:21:31,800 --> 02:21:40,140 from as opposed to there's no there's nothing in the in the pantry you know that's mine 1582 02:21:40,140 --> 02:21:48,020 that's good we only have so much money in this area and is this money better suited to keep 1583 02:21:48,020 --> 02:21:56,300 open-ended for potential options well the story we've never done this work I mean literally 1584 02:21:56,300 --> 02:22:03,540 We have never been aggressive, you know, so to have 10,000 to go get aggressive and then 1585 02:22:03,540 --> 02:22:11,240 We've leveraged that 10,000 to your business community to say $100,000 whatever ends up being versus 1586 02:22:12,320 --> 02:22:15,240 Going and more than a seat every so often. 1587 02:22:15,340 --> 02:22:17,540 And that's truly a testament to your work already. 1588 02:22:17,880 --> 02:22:23,260 I mean, this early on, I am below, I'm crazy excited. 1589 02:22:23,260 --> 02:22:25,340 Yeah, we're going to do a great job. 1590 02:22:25,500 --> 02:22:26,300 Thank you. 1591 02:22:26,300 --> 02:22:30,200 So you're suggesting not even being a member at all? 1592 02:22:30,600 --> 02:22:31,160 We're a member. 1593 02:22:31,360 --> 02:22:32,180 We're still a member. 1594 02:22:32,360 --> 02:22:32,540 Correct. 1595 02:22:32,800 --> 02:22:36,300 But we have representation with him as the head coach person. 1596 02:22:36,520 --> 02:22:36,680 Yes. 1597 02:22:37,020 --> 02:22:41,140 And we have not an additional step at all. 1598 02:22:41,560 --> 02:22:46,880 So like bronze, gold, platinum, you're not suggesting step down. 1599 02:22:47,400 --> 02:22:52,580 We're suggesting we have a program at 90, yeah. 1600 02:22:52,580 --> 02:22:59,820 Whatever. Yeah, yeah, we've invested higher to be in the program have the same 1601 02:22:59,820 --> 02:23:06,840 representation we had, so we have put more money in, but if we were to stay at 1602 02:23:06,840 --> 02:23:11,920 this platinum level, we would have another seat, so we'd be ramping up the seat. 1603 02:23:12,400 --> 02:23:17,270 But it would be a voting member. So Mark's a voting member, Brenna's not. If I'm 1604 02:23:17,270 --> 02:23:29,110 If I'm out of line tell me you're correct. So mark is a voting member if you paid the 10,000 for additional voting member that delutes the 98 1605 02:23:30,110 --> 02:23:35,790 It doesn't dilute the 98 other votes. Let's put it that way any more than having just one 1606 02:23:36,590 --> 02:23:41,950 This is the savings, I guess and put that money to work on the ground here 1607 02:23:42,690 --> 02:23:53,270 It's what with whatever potential need maybe and so kind of put that in more of a contingency 1608 02:23:53,270 --> 02:23:59,810 or whatever versus membership or an evolution program is what it is. 1609 02:24:00,010 --> 02:24:06,130 And then you build a fund, you literally, big vision would be to build a fund by going 1610 02:24:06,130 --> 02:24:12,570 going to the folks that utilize it go mostly from this community and saying, hey, could you 1611 02:24:13,190 --> 02:24:20,190 chip in? I don't know that they even were on the advisory, but I think they would understand 1612 02:24:20,190 --> 02:24:25,990 the value that they would get out of it at that point if we have some seed money to start 1613 02:24:25,990 --> 02:24:26,290 with. 1614 02:24:27,250 --> 02:24:32,510 Yeah, I mean we'll just say so that similarly the other small or sorry I shouldn't say smaller 1615 02:24:32,510 --> 02:24:38,970 the more rural community, so Crook County, Prainville, Sisters, they have their local boards 1616 02:24:38,970 --> 02:24:42,070 function much in the same way as to kind of what you're describing. 1617 02:24:42,730 --> 02:24:48,430 So this is a conversation that we hear very often and again I hate to give you guys the diplomatic 1618 02:24:48,430 --> 02:24:53,450 answer but I put that back in your cart and what you're thinking from that standpoint. 1619 02:24:53,450 --> 02:24:59,910 I will also mention being newer to EDCO in terms of the platinum membership, I am not entirely 1620 02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:28,240 I'm really sure what that actually outlines. I've been focusing primarily on the local board level, but I could get more information. If you guys think that would be, or sorry, if you all think that would be more helpful, and come back to you, whatever you think would help you inform your decision. I kind of, I agree with what Kell has been saying. And if all of this is going to do is just provide $10,000 for the regional ed co and watch more. 1621 02:25:29,460 --> 02:25:39,480 continue to focus on VIN. If this $10,000 can be more beneficial use here for you in Jefferson County, we always go that route. 1622 02:25:41,420 --> 02:25:45,060 Okay. We need... 1623 02:25:45,060 --> 02:25:46,020 No, the direction. 1624 02:25:46,420 --> 02:25:49,520 I got direction. I'll communicate back to Mr. Stark. 1625 02:25:50,100 --> 02:25:50,200 Okay. 1626 02:25:50,700 --> 02:25:57,240 And then the budget, you know, do it the same there, I think it's just, yeah, it just wrote 1627 02:25:57,240 --> 02:26:01,400 whatever we labeled out, we have a kind of a catch-all lack of better term and fund 1628 02:26:01,400 --> 02:26:08,180 250 economic development, which is then labeled economic development in this year's 1629 02:26:08,180 --> 02:26:16,160 budget. There's over 300,000 allocated. But I think, like on kind of the yellow side thing 1630 02:26:16,160 --> 02:26:23,420 on your Excel sheet is that that the message is that we're would steeply putting 10,000 1631 02:26:23,420 --> 02:26:29,840 aside as program local program assistance is very enhancement or whatever. Does that 1632 02:26:29,840 --> 02:26:36,520 make sense? Or do you not even need to do that? I would say you get confused because if 1633 02:26:36,520 --> 02:26:41,880 we have an ed code program line we try and put in the amount that we're committed to or 1634 02:26:41,880 --> 02:26:49,400 the IJA between the three cities in us and so to see that go to for example with 96 to 106 but 1635 02:26:49,400 --> 02:26:55,040 then next year the actual only 96 or it would fluctuate I would encourage to stick it out of the 1636 02:26:55,040 --> 02:27:00,520 economic development line and if we get a pattern going then we can look at another GL line. 1637 02:27:01,320 --> 02:27:07,000 Well you'll have to have a catch all four if we got contributions from business. 1638 02:27:07,000 --> 02:27:13,840 from this is the intent of which I really like was not in the room is that the city is now the fiscal agent so any any 1639 02:27:15,020 --> 02:27:20,100 Any would go to income with it. Yeah outside of the program would filter into the city 1640 02:27:21,320 --> 02:27:21,800 Okay 1641 02:27:23,100 --> 02:27:23,580 Okay 1642 02:27:24,200 --> 02:27:24,680 direction 1643 02:27:25,900 --> 02:27:28,880 Thank you, Brenna. Thank you, and did ill 1644 02:27:30,220 --> 02:27:31,840 So glad to have you here 1645 02:27:31,840 --> 02:27:36,260 excited when I had the opportunity to interview you and think you're doing a 1646 02:27:36,260 --> 02:27:41,560 great job and look forward to what you're gonna do over the next year. Thank you 1647 02:27:41,560 --> 02:27:42,120 so much. 1648 02:27:44,660 --> 02:27:53,410 Okay, Robert's there. Okay, Robert, you have a Department of Head 1649 02:27:53,410 --> 02:27:55,050 Update. Can you hear us? 1650 02:27:59,510 --> 02:28:01,570 You must hear us but we can't hear you yet. 1651 02:28:06,920 --> 02:28:07,600 Not not that 1652 02:28:07,600 --> 02:28:10,580 great at lip reading so we're still working on it. 1653 02:28:24,340 --> 02:28:25,940 More waiting Jeff do you have 1654 02:28:25,940 --> 02:28:32,960 anything else? There's a report down. You might have to change your mic. I do not. 1655 02:28:34,080 --> 02:28:36,340 Whether report? No other report. 1656 02:28:38,990 --> 02:28:41,530 So you guys go through your reports and potentially 1657 02:28:41,530 --> 02:28:50,390 then read the executive session while Robert sees the audio change. I don't know. 1658 02:28:50,390 --> 02:29:04,490 I'm having such memory loss. I can't remember what we talked about regarding Miller. What was our, what do we kind of Miller, the discussion was to talk about that in the executive session. 1659 02:29:05,090 --> 02:29:07,670 Okay. Thank you. 1660 02:29:10,320 --> 02:29:11,460 Which is the old guy. 1661 02:29:11,840 --> 02:29:12,840 It's all right. 1662 02:29:13,060 --> 02:29:13,980 You're the new one. 1663 02:29:16,160 --> 02:29:18,680 OK, so Jeff is good. 1664 02:29:20,380 --> 02:29:21,420 Commission discussion. 1665 02:29:21,640 --> 02:29:23,360 Is there anything commissioner Taylor? 1666 02:29:24,820 --> 02:29:26,680 No, not this week. 1667 02:29:28,420 --> 02:29:28,920 Is there someone? 1668 02:29:31,820 --> 02:29:33,900 Well, it's not a, if it comes, it's up, it comes. 1669 02:29:34,100 --> 02:29:35,260 So I don't fix it. 1670 02:29:37,220 --> 02:29:39,560 E-O-C-A tomorrow. 1671 02:29:40,320 --> 02:29:41,020 It's been canceled. 1672 02:29:41,620 --> 02:29:42,200 Well, it has been canceled. 1673 02:29:42,220 --> 02:29:42,360 Yeah. 1674 02:29:42,360 --> 02:29:42,760 I don't know. 1675 02:29:43,640 --> 02:29:45,220 You're not getting that update. 1676 02:29:48,740 --> 02:29:48,940 Okay. 1677 02:29:51,840 --> 02:29:53,220 And not rescheduled. 1678 02:29:53,480 --> 02:29:54,400 Not rescheduled. 1679 02:29:54,640 --> 02:29:54,760 Okay. 1680 02:29:55,140 --> 02:29:55,460 Thank you. 1681 02:29:55,580 --> 02:29:56,560 We're off to the office. 1682 02:29:56,620 --> 02:29:57,340 You guys turn it out. 1683 02:29:57,440 --> 02:29:58,620 Oh, there we go. 1684 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:29,940 Thanks, Robert. We'll jump right into what you got for us. So, yeah, as you guys know, I, what you may have in front of you is just some changes that I'm proposing and structure. Two of the three positions have existed already, which are a week positions for which you and I'll just this officer excite in the adult side to my knowledge. The leads have been used. 1685 02:30:29,940 --> 02:30:35,740 this in about five to six years, our last lead on the juvenile side was Lacey Delacruz, 1686 02:30:36,340 --> 02:30:41,020 and then the adult side was Andy Pointer. Lacey is obviously the deputy director now 1687 02:30:41,020 --> 02:30:47,420 and Andy Pointer has left. I'm going to introduce the wanting to re put these positions 1688 02:30:47,420 --> 02:30:53,600 within the organization to just offer opportunity for growth with the staff that we currently 1689 02:30:53,600 --> 02:31:02,980 have an in-house. Both are, I would guess, consider a role so they're not new FTEs. They would be given to 1690 02:31:02,980 --> 02:31:12,940 officers that are already within the organization. Five percent raised for Out of County residents and 1691 02:31:12,940 --> 02:31:20,060 seven half percent raised for in-county residents. We would be, hopefully, with your guys as approval, 1692 02:31:20,060 --> 02:31:23,960 these would take effect June 21st of 2025. 1693 02:31:25,640 --> 02:31:30,680 I think some of the benefits for me would just be having that leadership 1694 02:31:31,440 --> 02:31:37,200 with more of the ground troops being able to just focus more on the vision 1695 02:31:37,200 --> 02:31:43,280 of terms of accountability for our quality of standards in terms of contact, 1696 02:31:43,280 --> 02:32:00,440 on visits, assessments, as you guys know, on the juvenile side we're seeing a lot of growth and on the adult side, the states changing a lot of their expectations of us in terms of standards, assessments. 1697 02:32:01,440 --> 02:32:11,020 Some of the things that I can necessarily put the attention I would like to have, so having an adult lead to be able to focus on those things. 1698 02:32:12,020 --> 02:32:18,620 And then the third part of the structure change would be creating a supervisor for the 1699 02:32:18,620 --> 02:32:25,520 adult side, and that would look like turning Lacey Dallacruz, who is currently deputy director 1700 02:32:25,520 --> 02:32:31,760 of just the juvenile department, two deputy director of both the adult and juvenile side of 1701 02:32:31,760 --> 02:32:38,600 things, part of that sugar would require her to become a certified adult for information 1702 02:32:38,600 --> 02:32:45,820 officer that would include her going to the academy for the six weeks. She would become 1703 02:32:45,820 --> 02:32:47,340 fire and police pose. 1704 02:32:49,920 --> 02:32:54,940 Jeff and I and HR have kind of talked about what the raise was. 1705 02:32:55,140 --> 02:32:57,880 If she would go from 29 to 30, 1706 02:33:00,750 --> 02:33:08,260 effective, if they've approved June 21st. Again, she would 1707 02:33:08,260 --> 02:33:15,400 most of her time, not most of her time, but it's a 60-40 split, 60 being juvenile, 40 adult 1708 02:33:15,840 --> 02:33:21,020 in terms of the FTE and then also in terms of how we would cover her salary. 1709 02:33:22,360 --> 02:33:29,440 I think the benefit to this is cost savings for the juvenile department or detention costs. 1710 02:33:29,940 --> 02:33:35,560 I hope to kind of offset some of that by moving over some of her costs to the adult budget 1711 02:33:35,560 --> 02:33:36,960 which is a little bit more healthy. 1712 02:33:38,060 --> 02:33:43,880 Again, creating that supervisor on the adult side, 1713 02:33:43,960 --> 02:33:47,120 what I'm at at the office, and also what I am there to 1714 02:33:47,120 --> 02:33:50,040 and being able just to have someone to collaborate 1715 02:33:50,040 --> 02:33:54,200 with more closely in terms of what we're doing on the 1716 02:33:54,200 --> 02:33:54,940 adult side. 1717 02:33:56,040 --> 02:33:59,200 And I think it's also just giving more incentive to 1718 02:33:59,200 --> 02:34:02,520 keep lazy around. She's been with the county for 17 1719 02:34:03,160 --> 02:34:06,060 years. And I think it's just continuing to help her with 1720 02:34:06,060 --> 02:34:11,320 career development, including more multimedia, so I'm 1721 02:34:11,320 --> 02:34:14,900 heard within the county. So I don't, I'm going to 1722 02:34:14,900 --> 02:34:17,340 rambla a little bit now, but if there's any questions 1723 02:34:17,340 --> 02:34:19,800 or anything I could answer, please let me know. 1724 02:34:20,520 --> 02:34:29,680 So you said June 21st for this potential change. Why June 21st, 1725 02:34:29,680 --> 02:34:35,360 rather than like a July 1st, and for budgeting purposes, I'm 1726 02:34:35,360 --> 02:34:42,640 sure it's not going to be payroll. Payroll. Payroll. Payroll. Payroll. Here it starts on the 21st. So what we use 1727 02:34:42,640 --> 02:34:51,200 does interchangeably July 1st, June, really, June 21st. So we try to make sure you guys know it would be the real 1728 02:34:51,200 --> 02:34:58,440 effective days of June 21st. But. Hey, Robert, are we in the first session of our 1729 02:34:58,440 --> 02:34:59,640 biannual budget from 1730 02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:29,240 The community justice funding specifically for adults. Are we in the first or second year of that biennium, the second year? We're in the second. So the outlooks of, the outlooks of the next, I mean, you have, you have reserves, you have, you have lots of accessible ways for the sustainability of this, I guess in my question, or my point. 1731 02:35:30,080 --> 02:35:32,440 What's the outlet for next biennium? 1732 02:35:33,240 --> 02:35:36,400 Well, we, I'm actually at OACD right now. 1733 02:35:36,660 --> 02:35:41,360 We're just speaking on that and the comments are AOC. 1734 02:35:41,700 --> 02:35:47,480 Our BOCC has been very supportive of the growth of adult community corrections. 1735 02:35:48,300 --> 02:35:53,860 And they're the gas in terms of what we received the last biennium to this biennium. 1736 02:35:54,200 --> 02:35:57,340 And it seems like we're getting the local support we need. 1737 02:35:57,340 --> 02:36:03,880 And we'll actually be going tomorrow to the Capitol Building to advocate for ourselves 1738 02:36:03,880 --> 02:36:09,900 for an $18.18 for each adult on supervision. 1739 02:36:10,780 --> 02:36:18,080 So really back to your questions, if it proves it would be a substantial growth in terms 1740 02:36:18,080 --> 02:36:21,820 of what we would receive compared to prior bionyms. 1741 02:36:22,280 --> 02:36:23,660 What are you at right now? 1742 02:36:24,040 --> 02:36:25,080 So you said 18, 18? 1743 02:36:25,920 --> 02:36:34,080 That's what they ask is, well, we received last time based off of our population, it was about 2.2 million. 1744 02:36:35,260 --> 02:36:37,560 It's given the full app. 1745 02:36:39,880 --> 02:36:44,520 We know probably won't happen. It would be 3.5. 1746 02:36:46,280 --> 02:36:55,600 by any. So what's the breakdown for adult currently? Wasn't it like 16 or 15? I 1747 02:36:55,600 --> 02:37:01,820 think you had mentioned it here recently. I think it's even lower than that 1748 02:37:01,820 --> 02:37:07,260 because it's often a case study that was long before my time. I don't know off 1749 02:37:07,260 --> 02:37:13,180 the top of my head. So you're basically asking to be fully funded over there and 1750 02:37:13,180 --> 02:37:18,000 and currently we're probably funded per individual about 80% of what the actual cost is? 1751 02:37:19,380 --> 02:37:27,340 Yeah, I mean, our budget, I think, is reflective of what we're doing well, 1752 02:37:28,040 --> 02:37:33,690 or Steve, the population that we have with staff that we have, 1753 02:37:34,730 --> 02:37:41,370 so even if not given the full budget, we would still receive approximately, 1754 02:37:41,370 --> 02:37:49,390 If not more, we will receive the last biennium because our population has maintained through 1755 02:37:49,390 --> 02:37:52,430 COVID where a lot of these other populations have dropped. 1756 02:37:53,170 --> 02:38:00,170 We're still making up about 1.16 of the population in terms of people on suit provision. 1757 02:38:03,970 --> 02:38:10,790 Which we basically have a higher population of people on suit provision compared to our general population. 1758 02:38:10,790 --> 02:38:16,890 people in our county compared to other counties, which is a good and bad thing. 1759 02:38:20,090 --> 02:38:26,430 One question, tell me if I'm crazy, but it seems to me I ran across something the other 1760 02:38:26,430 --> 02:38:34,310 day that they're asking, they might be coming back to asking us for another bite at that 1761 02:38:34,310 --> 02:38:35,110 time study. 1762 02:38:35,430 --> 02:38:38,090 Is that sound familiar to you? 1763 02:38:41,150 --> 02:38:46,550 Yes, because they want to do a new one to kind of get reflected. Sorry, I'm walking around. 1764 02:38:47,590 --> 02:38:57,550 But yeah, they may ask, so we can get more accurate in terms of what we're doing with people on the cost. 1765 02:38:58,190 --> 02:39:04,350 But it serves me right. When we did that time study, they didn't use it. They were like, nah, that's not good enough. 1766 02:39:05,090 --> 02:39:16,150 Right, right. They didn't. And so that's more of some of the frustration like because it's showing, hey, this is how much it's costing to supervise to rehabilitate someone. 1767 02:39:17,050 --> 02:39:29,650 Because it would be huge amount compared to what we actually get in terms of the budget. I mean, it would be a lot more kind of unrealistic compared to what they've approved and given us. 1768 02:39:29,650 --> 02:39:34,090 So, yeah, it wasn't utilized how we hoped for it. 1769 02:39:35,070 --> 02:39:36,190 Well, I'm very supportive of this. 1770 02:39:36,230 --> 02:39:45,890 I think this allows growth and obviously some opportunities to capture some of these out of a very strong adult side. 1771 02:39:47,170 --> 02:39:50,030 So, I'd be advocate for this change. 1772 02:39:50,630 --> 02:39:51,410 Okay. It's a motion. 1773 02:39:52,690 --> 02:39:53,530 Is it a motion? 1774 02:39:54,310 --> 02:39:54,850 Do we need a motion? 1775 02:39:54,850 --> 02:39:58,450 to have a motion. 1776 02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:07,120 Do you want to see you could make a motion to reorganize the community justice adult and juvenile 1777 02:40:07,120 --> 02:40:12,940 department as presented, including the new job description of deputy director. 1778 02:40:13,740 --> 02:40:19,000 Some moved. Second. Okay, you got a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? 1779 02:40:20,240 --> 02:40:26,180 So this would be given staff, it's good the ability to do all these things and then probably 1780 02:40:26,180 --> 02:40:29,480 getting a little more fine detail of what that's looking like, is that? 1781 02:40:29,860 --> 02:40:32,220 The motion before you would would implement it. 1782 02:40:32,740 --> 02:40:32,980 Implemented. 1783 02:40:33,020 --> 02:40:39,820 June, June 21st as presented and what we would work with Robert on going out for the recruitment 1784 02:40:39,820 --> 02:40:46,460 for those two leads at some point, I know he would be able to make an offer until we get closer 1785 02:40:46,460 --> 02:40:46,920 to the June. 1786 02:40:51,020 --> 02:40:52,680 Any further discussion? 1787 02:40:55,060 --> 02:41:02,720 All in favor of supporting the restructuring of adult and juvenile. 1788 02:41:03,300 --> 02:41:04,780 Please state by saying aye. 1789 02:41:05,060 --> 02:41:05,220 Aye. 1790 02:41:06,220 --> 02:41:06,420 Aye. 1791 02:41:07,180 --> 02:41:08,100 Motion carries. 1792 02:41:08,620 --> 02:41:09,000 Thanks Robert. 1793 02:41:09,660 --> 02:41:10,460 Thank you guys here. 1794 02:41:10,600 --> 02:41:11,020 It should be bad. 1795 02:41:11,240 --> 02:41:11,960 Good luck tomorrow. 1796 02:41:11,960 --> 02:41:13,780 Thank you, bye. 1797 02:41:19,100 --> 02:41:22,240 Anything further for discussion today? 1798 02:41:25,200 --> 02:41:26,360 Remember we're going to recess. 1799 02:41:27,040 --> 02:41:28,180 We are going to recess. 1800 02:41:28,980 --> 02:41:31,600 So do I have a script council? 1801 02:41:36,270 --> 02:41:38,550 We're going to go in executive session. 1802 02:41:38,910 --> 02:41:41,590 Are we going to need to come back for any decisions? 1803 02:41:42,090 --> 02:41:44,270 I do not see any need to come back. 1804 02:41:44,270 --> 02:41:49,270 Okay, I guess if we do we could always make that decision tonight. 1805 02:41:49,970 --> 02:41:50,630 That's true. 1806 02:41:50,870 --> 02:41:53,650 Yeah, you're going to be recess until six. 1807 02:41:53,850 --> 02:41:55,570 Yeah, we are going to go into executive session. 1808 02:41:55,750 --> 02:42:00,230 We will then recess for our six o'clock in Cricut River Ranch. 1809 02:42:00,370 --> 02:42:05,110 If there's any decisions that need to be made, we will do them there tonight. 1810 02:42:05,790 --> 02:42:07,970 So I will read the script. 1811 02:42:09,550 --> 02:42:12,710 The Jefferson County Board of Commissioners will now meet an executive session 1812 02:42:12,710 --> 02:42:14,750 to consider real property transaction. 1813 02:42:15,090 --> 02:42:23,590 The executive session is held pursuant to ORS192.006602E, 1814 02:42:24,090 --> 02:42:26,130 which allows the commission to meet an executive session 1815 02:42:26,130 --> 02:42:30,110 to deliberate with persons designated by the governing body 1816 02:42:30,110 --> 02:42:32,330 to negotiate real property transaction. 1817 02:42:35,030 --> 02:42:37,750 Representatives of the media and designated staff 1818 02:42:37,750 --> 02:42:40,530 shall be allowed to attend the executive session. 1819 02:42:40,910 --> 02:42:43,490 All of the members of the public are asked to leave the room. 1820 02:42:43,490 --> 02:42:49,010 Representatives of the news media are specifically directed not to report on any of the deliberations 1821 02:42:49,010 --> 02:42:54,130 during the executive session except to state the statutory section and the purpose of the 1822 02:42:54,130 --> 02:42:59,710 executive session. Specifically, the news media is restricted to reporting that the Board 1823 02:42:59,710 --> 02:43:09,550 of Commissioners met an executive session pursuant to ORS192.6602E to deliberate with persons designated 1824 02:43:09,550 --> 02:43:12,610 by the governing body to negotiate real property transactions. 1825 02:43:13,550 --> 02:43:16,530 No discussion may be made in executive session. 1826 02:43:16,710 --> 02:43:23,190 At the end of the session, we will recess and reconvene 1827 02:43:23,190 --> 02:43:25,870 at our cooking over ranch meeting at 6 p.m.