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OK. I'm not ready. All right, well, welcome to the January February,

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February 18th, 25, Jefferson Transit Authority board meeting. The last time I'll

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be at the wheel here just for a few minutes. So I'm gonna annoy you guys one last

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time with the The roll call quiz. Um,

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favorite song about a bus. And I'll start off, of course, um, America by Simon and

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Garfunkel. Talk a bit about a bus, you know, on that one. Good one. first show I

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ever saw rock show as a, as a teenager was the The Who, so I'll go with Magic Bus.

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That's, that's a good one.

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Look up songs with the bus.

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No, I, I want my mind the beginning of. That I, I'm Heather Dudley a lot. I think

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I've met almost everybody, but if not, I'm new county commissioner and my um favorite

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song about a bus, I may not be able to come up with the actual name, but it's um

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it's about, it's, I think it's called the MTA. And it's a folk song. We never, we

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never returned. His fate is still unlearned that you've never heard that one. I'm

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looking at

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somebody who gets on a bus, then rides and rides and rides because he he's lost his

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fare, so he needed to be in Jefferson County and my dad sung that song like my whole

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life.

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I dancing on screen here with David. Hey, I'm David Faber. Um, I mean, obviously

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I think Ben had identified. I have an 18 month old right now, so Wheels and the Bus

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is in constant rotation. Um, I've also routinely used uh the song We Like to Party

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by the Venga Boys, which is a ridiculous like Europop song from like '99 to clear

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out a party at the end of the night. So that's, that's mostly about a bus, the Venga

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bus. Perfect. Excellent, Rick.

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The only thing I can think of it's not my favorite song would be Wheels on the Bus

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and also whatever it was for the Magic School bus, having kids growing up with that

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time frame.

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Oh yeah,

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that's good that's a good one. Hi, Vivian. Actually, I choose Muddy Waters, bus rider.

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Uh, OK. OK, excellent. All right, well, that, you know, staff.

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Oh wait, Ben, you forgot me. He's on, by the way, Heidi's on the phone, she's in

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transit, but she's listening in. Yeah, I'm listening in and then mine, mine is not.

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Oh, you just went under a tunnel.

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Oh, pretty. Get it when she comes back. Toss it in when you get come back in. We,

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we're not hearing you right now. About a bus, but it's about moving right along.

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Oh. What what's it called? Oh sorry, you didn't hear me. Moving right along by the

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Muppet, yeah, OK, OK, right on. You wanna toss one in for fun. Oh, I'm gonna have

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to go with Rosa Parks by Outkast.

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OK, it's Jamie.

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How does that one go? I know.

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Oh. We were just talking about how we do not sing in public.

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I should say that. Are there any of the drivers that sing or do anything like that?

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Uh, I have a drummer, Mike, one time he was doing the shuttle for wooden boat and

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he actually had everybody singing um row row row your boat in a round he was driving

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the wood boat shuttle.

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Anybody else wanna toss one in. Can't think of a bus song. I can only think of the

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vehicles. That's pretty fun.

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It's Transportation in general. It's a song called Contact. We're learning about

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each other.

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OK, so we have a quorum. It was enough, we had enough songs to pronounce it,

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um. Let's see this. I'm looking at my script here. Thank you for the script, Kelly.

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Um, I guess we do the public comment before we do the officers, so um. Public comment.

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Does any member of the public wish to give public comment? I see somebody here. If

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you are online, please raise your hand. If you're on the phone, press 9 to raise

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your hand and 6 to unmute. Anybody in the room? OK Anybody online?

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A couple online, but no one's raising their hand.

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All right. OK, well, we're on the first topic, reorganization of the board. So this,

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this is my last time at the wheel, handing the wheel over to somebody. Um, I have

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a motion ready if anybody wants to hear, but I'm gonna open the floor to anybody

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else who has a motion. We're talking about

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uh yeah, and vice chair and so um with us was the vice chair. He told me he was.

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Uh, full disclosure, I reached out to Greg to see if he'd be interested in doing

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vice chair since we need somebody on county. I figured, you know, you're still catching

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everything coming at you, but

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and um. And somebody who's been on the board a long time. No, I'm not sure if staff

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is gonna be uh like into it, but yeah, I'd be excited. That was well, but anybody's

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welcome to make a motion right now if they prefer and any other ideas, yeah. I'm

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totally supportive of your proposal, Ben. I served as chair the year before this

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last one when you were vice chair, and that was a good pairing, and I feel like,

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yeah, super supportive of John and Greg, so just wanna add my support to the team

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there. OK, well, anybody's OK, I'm gonna start, I'll make a motion there. For um

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John Noak to be chair and Greg Brotherton to be vice chair for this for this next

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year. Oh second there. Vivian, you said you had reached out to John. He's been,

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you know this has been coming for a while. He's already not to. I see, I see that

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too,

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and he said like I'm gonna miss that first meeting. Yes, we have a seasoned.

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Person here to do to hand over to you.

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I think I was, I was interrupting Vivienne. She did a second, yeah, so did a 2nd.

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All anybody any discussion. On favor. Um. Are you opposed?

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I did say I. there. OK, that passes. And speaking of passes, all right, thank you,

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Ben. Thank you everyone for your confidence.

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Uh, I'll just keep uh hewing to the, uh, the agenda, though I have no script. That's

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fine. No, no, I, I'll go off both. Um, so next up is new agenda items. Do we have

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any other new agenda items to talk about? Yeah. OK. Great. Um, moving right along.

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Easy, uh, finance reports. Miranda, you want to take us through the finance reports?

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Yes, so actually I'm gonna start off with um two discussion points, and then I'm

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gonna move into finance. So, um, the first discussion point that um we are bringing

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to the board is, um, improper reporting improper governmental action. Um, one of

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the things that we, uh, in the finance committee, uh, identified last year is that

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we wanted to start, uh, revisiting some of these, um, governance topics, um, specifically,

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um, some of the policies that affects the board as well as staff, and, um, so we'll

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start doing some deeper dives into our, our finance and doing some budget 101 and

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finance 101. so we're bringing this, um. Policy in front of the board as an just

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an educational and informational topic today. Um, so I'm gonna outline the reporting

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process for both employees and board members, and we're gonna highlight the protections

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against retaliation. So Jefferson Transit encourages employees and board members

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to report any improper improper governmental actions um conducted by staff, um. This

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policy aligns with federal, state, and local laws to maintain integrity and accountability

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of Jefferson Transit. Um, so improper governmental actions, these are violations

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of law, abuse of authority, threats to public safety, or gross waste of public funds.

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Um, exclusions in this case, uh, include employee grievances, personal disputes,

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um, or sorry, personnel disputes,

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um, and collective bargaining issues that are not covered under this policy, and

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retaliatory actions are any negative impact on employment or board participation

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due to reporting an issue. So the reporting procedures um are I just to summarize,

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um, I'm not gonna dive too deep into it because I do. want this information there,

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but um we do have a packed meeting today. So, um I have outlined the reporting procedures,

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um, employees and board members should first report their concerns to an immediate

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supervisor or the board chair. Um, if the concern involves uh Jefferson Transit leadership,

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reports should go to the general manager or a designated official, um, I would imagine

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that's the board chair. Um, in emergencies, individuals may report directly to an

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appropriate government agency. Um, if, if concerns are not adequately addressed internally,

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reports can be, uh, escalated to an external oversight agency. Um, Jefferson Transit

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strictly prohibits retaliation against employees and board members who report in

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good faith. Uh, retaliation complaints can be escalated internally and formally filed

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with a state administrative law judge. Um, and the external reporting agencies, um,

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if the internal resolution is not satisfactory, employee and board members, um, have

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the right to report concerns to the following. So we have the Washington State Auditor's

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Office, um, financial and procedural misconduct, um, complaints can be uh directed

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there. Our executive ethics board, those are ethical violations, Office of Administrative

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Hearings, these are retaliation complaints. Uh, the Attorney attorney General's office,

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legal violations, uh, Federal Transit Administration, uh, Federal Transit misconduct,

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uh, you can classify that however you want. And watch out Public Transportation division,

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these are transit specific concerns. So, um, This policy covers both

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employees and board members. It provides the information, um, and the avenue to report

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any potential misconduct or suspicion of misconduct. Um, you have the right to report

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something if you feel like something is that. Adding up if, if something doesn't

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make sense. Um, of course, we, we try to be very transparent in how we make decisions

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and things here at Jefferson Transit, and uh we would hope that you would communicate

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with Nicole if there's any concern first. But, um, you know, sometimes these are

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necessary and as a board should have the information to be able to report these things

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and and investigate. So I wanted to present that information to the board. Um, does

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the board have any questions about this policy or a procedure? Yeah, I just that

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designated official thing. Should we make that clear what that means? Um, I, yeah,

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I suppose it, it, I I kind of outlined it as in like, well, what if it's the board

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chair, you know, um, it's kind, you know, we, I think we have layers of governance

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here. Um, I think at that point, I would use designated official interchangeably

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with um Nicole, the board chair, or, uh, the external agency.

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But if you want to specifically define I'm just trying to imagine scenario where

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somebody really wants to know that. It could be different

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moves around too much to a diagram

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if you yeah. Appreciate the update. This is just information, right? OK, good. I

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was like,

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That's good information, especially when we go into audit. And, um, if the auditor

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is asking you, do you know how to report you can all with confidence say yes

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because. And this is different than a like a collective bargaining grievance as well.

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So just to be clear, the collective bargaining grievance, we have an internal process

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for, uh, employee employee grievances for represented staff, and, um, that is a process

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through the union, and then that escalates to, uh, mediation and then to PERC. So

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there's a whole, there's a whole separate process for that.

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Any other questions from Miranda on this policy?

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This is just no changes, just reviewing. No, just, just informational only, just

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doing an educational informational review. It's on to the next one. OK, so this

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next one, this is discussion purposes, um, I wanted, I wanted to bring, um,

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For the reserve policy in front of the board. I want to start a conversation around

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reviewing and potentially updating our reserves policy, and that, and this would

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be effective for the fiscal year 2026. So in reality, it's fiscal year 2025

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surplus that would be transferred in the fiscal year 2026. Um, so

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over the past decade, Jefferson Transit has built strong reserves to ensure financial

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stability and resilience, and with our current financial position, the board has

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expressed a desire to expand service and invest in rider facing improvements. While

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we're at, uh, while we are well positioned to do so, we must consider our future

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infrastructure needs and our long-term sustainability. So just to give a recap, um,

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our current reserve status as of 1231-2024, um, the 2025 operating budget was

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8.2 million. Uh, our projected 2024 surplus, this is our year-end surplus, um, this

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figure is pending based on our, uh, grants for the last quarter that we have yet

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to receive. Um, that, that surplus balance was $5.4 million. Our current reserve

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balances, and this is as of the end of December, this has changed, uh, but just slightly.

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Um, our capital checking had 1.2 million in it. The capital reserve had 13.8 million.

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Operating checking was 7.2 million, operating reserve is 7 million, and the

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unemployment reserve had 18,413 in that account.

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So, beginning this discussion point and things that I would like the board to begin

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considering um throughout the next year as we move towards 2026, um, is There's several

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key points in that I want to bring up is um the topic of balancing service expansion

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with our long-term infrastructure needs. Um, the board wants to see funds put into

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service expansion, and this is an important goal given where we are financially.

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Um, we do need to consider how our sustained service growth requires continued investment

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in our infrastructure, our vehicles, and our facilities. So we're thinking about,

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uh, well we, we're not thinking about it, we're doing it, we're going electric, right?

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So we need that infrastructure and we need to consider how continued investment in

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that capital supports our service growth needs. Um, so if we reduce our capital funding

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now, um, what does it look like in the future? Will we face funding gaps, uh, when

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projects like EV charging and the transit center upgrades become necessary? So I

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think we, that's a discussion point where we need to start thinking about how we

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can balance that. Um, for vehicle and fleet capacity limitations, our service expansion

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requires more buses, um, but the vehicle reserve is not keeping pace, so the current

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vehicle reserve, uh, is based around, um, A Gielig bus every 4 years. We know that

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the the EV buses are uh more expensive. So, um, the current reserve policy supports

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a bus replacement every 4 years, uh, with the electric buses costing 1 to 1.5% compared

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to diesel buses at probably about, I would say 5 to 7 at this point with inflation.

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Um, this policy is outdated, so I think that our reserve policy for vehicles would

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need to be reviewed. Um, expansion vehicles cannot be grant funded. Um, this means

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that if we are increasing the size of our fleet, they must be entirely funded by

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JTA reserves. And we need to discuss adjusting our reserve policy to better align

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with how our our changing fleet is will lead. And that may not be full size gillis.

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It might be smaller vehicles, and I think I just want us to start reviewing, well,

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what is that replacement plan? Let's talk about it. Um, So, short term rider

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benefits versus long-term stability, um, investing in our bus shelter stops and service

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frequency can enhance the rider experience now while keeping our reserves strong.

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However, if we overspend on our operations today, we risk future financial instability.

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So, we look at major capital projects like Haynes Place Transit Center upgrades,

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um, We have a couple that were that were slated to do this year, um, the Gateway,

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yes, there it is. Um, so the, I, it's not a, I'm not saying let's not do this. I,

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I, what I want to, uh, just bring about the point is that when we're thinking about

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these big expansions, um, how are we supporting those into the future with operations

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and our, our, our uh maintaining our capital infrastructure, um. And then the

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last point that I want to um bring forward for discussion is, um, so,

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Creating a measured expansion with our strategic investments, so we can incrementally

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enhance service while maintaining um a responsible reserve strategy. So, a

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potential solution would be a phased service expansion, um. Now, these are just points

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that are are not coming from the COA, but these are things that we hear, like evening

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and weekend service enhancements, uh, increased frequency on key routes, um, demand-based

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microtransit pilots. Um, so service improvements can be rolled out gradually while

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maintaining necessary reserves for capital projects. Miranda, can you talk about

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what the COA is for new? Yes, uh, the COAs are comprehensive, uh,

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operational analysis. So you guys reviewed it some in my orientation. Yes, so we

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had an update with them last week and uh they are presenting today? No, not today.

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No, OK, never mind. I like to hear microtransit they're microtransit. Yes, so, um,

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these are not. Suggestions in any way. I wanted to be more of a fluid, uh, idea starter,

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um, because what I'd like to do is bring this topic back for discussion over the

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next couple board meetings to prepare for fiscal year 2026. Um, the reserve policy

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we have set in place right now, that's going to be, uh, what we are following for

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this year when I go to do reserve transfers in April, um, because I don't think we're

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ready to To make that change right now. Um, I think it needs a, um, more focus on,

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uh, and discussion around how we're, how we might re-evaluate our reserves. So I

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think that, um, it, it's a good time right now, especially since we do have these

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big capital projects, and we're gonna start seeing how that's affecting our capital

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reserves. Um, but also that we, um, that we do have a fully funded, uh, operating

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reserve and, um, is that. The practice that we want to continue and uh we want to

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start seeing some more uh public facing um. Results. So, um,

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this really is just me starting the conversation. So the, the key points is, um,

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should we adjust our reserve policies, um, should we increase annual contributions

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to the vehicle reserve, uh, how do we balance service growth with necessary infrastructure

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investments? What are the board's priorities for capital versus operational spending

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in the coming years? Um, so I wanted to include all this information in here, um,

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and then Provide an opportunity to ask questions. If you would like to email me and

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get information from me, um, this will be a discussion point in the coming board

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meetings, so we'll have plenty of opportunity to hash it out. So this is also an

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informational topic. Letting the table. Any questions for Miranda right now about

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these new potential reserve policies or resetting the the capital and and operational

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reserve?

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Thoughts, I guess initial thoughts? I think it's a good idea to start

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a conversation about it seemed like. Kind of a no-brainer. Thanks Vivian, Rick.

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I just want to say I've been talking about this for the last 2 years. For the size

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of our agency and going all in on electric, and now with the current state of

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How the government's working and stuff like that, we need to back off the electric

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stuff. We're putting all of our money and all of our stuff in one basket, and here

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in the, in the future is we're, we're gonna be Thinking, oh, we probably should have

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done that. Let the bigger agencies find out what, you know, what's best for, for

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the industry, and then we follow later on. I mean, we're gonna be hurt in a couple

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of years. We keep going on this, uh, this electric bandwagon. It's it's not the right,

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it's not the right idea. Right, that's all I gotta say about it. And I've been talking

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about this for the last couple of years.

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All right, um, I'll, I'll say, I think it's great to talk about these reserves, you

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know, as, as you might see the, I mean, this is a very healthy reserve that we have,

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and I think Defining those buckets as we move forward is really going to inform the

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strategy, whether it's, you know, guiding towards or away from electric vehicles,

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you know, as Rick would have, or, you know, maybe he's talking hydrogen. I don't

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know. No, probably not. But, um, I think there are really important conversations.

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I think that the COA like should come first, to a degree, you know, understanding

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and really kind of agreeing on our path. That's kind of our strategic document. I

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know we have a strategic plan and the TPP and all that, but for me, Making Jefferson

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Transit a real functional transportation agency for our really challenging county

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is, is something that is uh um a big lift for us to, you know, Yeah, to be someone

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to be able to commute from Quiling or, or, you know, get their groceries or get to

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their healthcare appointments, you know, conveniently from Port Ludlow, these are

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all questions that I think about, and we also think about the efficiencies of, you

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know, focusing in Port Townsend or Port Hadlock where you have the density that really

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like speaks to normal transit agencies. So, yeah, you know, yeah, for example, but,

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um. Uh, I, I just, I think it's, it's great, you know, we have strong reserves. I

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don't think there's no, no budget that you're going to see that is healthier than

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the transit budget, budget, um, and Yeah, we, we should dream with, with uh guard

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rails, so I appreciate it. I just, I wanna add, I just wanna, um, kudos to what Greg

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just said, couldn't agree more. And, you know, I think our comprehensive operational

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analysis is gonna give us some road maps, and we may want to invest to get down those

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roads and um That's what I would like to see us do is, you know, use our operational

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analysis to define the path forward. So it's, it's good that we're doing this reserve

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consideration at this time, but um I'm really excited to see what the COA says and

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And how we might be able to flex to implement some of what the um COA guides us towards,

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so. Couldn't agree with you more, Greg. Thanks for adding a road metaphor to it.

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That was moving, moving right along down here Brennan Brennan right now. Uh, that's

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great. Any other thoughts to share initially, and I think Miranda, thank you for

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the offer. If you have questions or followups, reach out to Miranda to inform future

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conversations about this. It's good you're on the finance. Oh right, and I just saw

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on the script on the tag as well. So yeah, OK, yeah. Yeah,

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2 more meetings a month. That's a question the um this table. It has the operating

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reserve fund, capital reserve fund, revenue vehicle reserve fund, etc. Is that a,

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that's a summary of the current reserve policies. So what you've got in reserves

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right now is significantly than that. Got it. It, it, it, it, um,

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our reserves meet our policy at the maximum allowed. OK, so, uh, if we're funding

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our operating reserve for a maximum of 1 year of operations, um, we, we are 100%

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funded to change at this moment for 2025 we're not 100% funded, but as we do our

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reserve transfers this year, we will be, yeah, so that's been very good to us. Yeah,

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it has. OK, thank you.

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Last call for any other thoughts? Yeah.

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Oh, sure. Um, I'll just jump in here. I think I may be the longest serving member

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on this board or even amongst staff who are still uh working uh with JTA. Um, when

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I came on, uh, JTA was still in the kind of hangover period after the Great Recession,

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where for a while. Um, you know, the JTA was scraping bottom. I mean, we were, we

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were moments from needing to do pretty significant cuts, uh, up on fumes, so to speak,

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to continue the transportation metaphors. Um, and so for a long time, we've been

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on a, a pathway of building good reserves, um, to, to make sure that we're not in

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that position. I think we're really, I mean, we, we've breezed past the point that

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I thought we should have been converting a lot more of the money. Into operations,

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um, I'm, I'm glad, you know, we're always thinking about trying to make sure any

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operations we introduce are sustainable, uh, if we do end up in an economic downturn.

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But you know, I look at our reserves right now, and I think about what someone who

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is an enemy of public transportation would say, and that they would say like we're

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just a money pinata waiting to be beaten over the head. I'm surprised that, honestly,

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that the media has not picked up on just how significant. Our reserves have expanded

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without us expanding much in the way of operations. Um, I, I do think it's important

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that we do it responsibly, which again, I really appreciate staff's approach to this,

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but I do think we really need to start looking at ways and, you know, putting more

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service on the road. So I would like to respond to that. Steph is fully committed

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to putting additional service on the road, and we budgeted for that in 2025, um,

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but really the The issue that Jefferson Transit has been having is not a financial

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issue, but it's staffing. So I, I can't introduce new service if I don't have someone

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to drive that bus. Um, so I think, I think we're in a better place right now. Um,

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we've got another class of operators starting with 3. Um, so we're excited about

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that, um, and we're looking forward to adding additional service on that we had talked

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about this year. So I do hear you. We are excited. We're, we would like to put more

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service on the road. Right. I, I'm so I really was not trying to throw you under

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the bus, uh, continuing metaphors where, um, I, I mean, I really do appreciate that

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that is indeed the intention. On the part of staff really to and and the way we passed

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the budget for this year to to put that service on the road that it's not necessarily

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financial, but I'm glad that I think we really need to. That needs to be our trajectory,

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and I appreciate that's what it is.

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All right, we should probably move on to the actual finance reports now. Well, I

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was just gonna add that I'm, I'm not ready to jettison the transition to electrification

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and I'll be interested to see what the COA says, and if we are moving to microtransit,

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are there smaller, more affordable electro electric options, but I'm, I'm fully not

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ready to jettison um that aspiration that we set together. So just wanted to

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say that out loud.

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OK. Um, so I do have I have the, uh, uh, preliminary 2024 year-end,

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uh, financials, and we have January. I'm not gonna deep dive too deep into January

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because this first month, you can't really make decisions based off of what one month.

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The budget tracking is, uh, it's, it's, you know, it's. It's front loaded cause we

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got a lot of 2025 expenses that occur at the beginning of the year. And, um, so February

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and March are gonna be more informative for you. So we're gonna talk about, uh, December.

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Um, sales tax revenue, uh, October 2024, which was remitted in December 2024 for

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the month of October, year over year it increased 9% compared to 2023. Uh, for November

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2024, remitted in January of 2025, um, the month of November increased 45%.

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That's a huge significant number. I do not know what we were not doing in 2023 in

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November that we did in 2024. 0, there we go.

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um, it is, it is construction related. Uh, we just, it feels like we've had like

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the fishery stuff for years now, and they just, they're always there, um. So the

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total accumulated sales tax increase for 2024, year over year is 9%. Uh, this is

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a continuing trend for us. Uh, we do not have operating revenue as of January 2024,

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so we don't collect fares there. Um, so, total operating expenses for uh 2024 is

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12.4% under budget. Uh, our labor was 3.3% under budget, benefits was

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12.6% under budget. Services and user fees were 41.1% under budget. Uh, materials

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and supplies consumed was 28.1% under budget. Utilities was about 1% over budget.

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So I think we, we came in pretty close on that one, but we did start to see those

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rising costs. Our casualty and liability, that is our insurance uh coverage was 3.5%

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under budget. Our taxes was 88.3%. But again, that's not because we're not paying

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it right. If we budgeted for fares and we stopped, uh, we stopped collecting fares.

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So we do put a contingency in there, but we are paying our taxes, so we wanna call

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it.

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Um, our miscellaneous expenses was 45.2% under in the packets. Um, I did

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provide a, um.

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Kind of a breakdown of what those miscellaneous expenses were

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as right. Yes, it's it's as requested, those miscellaneous expenses will be broke

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out, broken out now, um. If there's a specific question you have on what those miscellaneous

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expenses are, um, Just please let me know. I can explain it further. Um, for the

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most part, the, the one in December is, um, is a reimbursement for uh

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one of our field or not field one of our supervisors who's um does our CDL testing.

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So it's a reimbursement for uh relicensing costs.

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Um, and then you will also see that miscellaneous breakdown is in uh January's report,

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so it does break down specifically what went into that miscellaneous, um, and if

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you're looking at the financial statements, there is a miscellaneous transaction

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detail, and that is on page 27 of the packet. And that shows, um, primarily those

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expenses are going to be uh dues and subscriptions to external organizations, membership

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fees, um, some travel or uh supervisors, um, and then, um, we have some uh

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Membership fees that we accrue out over the year and that that'll be um Under the

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January 25 month and journal entries, and I, I will do a better job of explaining

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what those are. I realized that they just say the same thing. So, uh, I will be more

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detailed than that in my next report. Um,

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5.9% under for our leases and rentals, um. And that's what I have for

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our financials. Does the board have any questions about 2024 or even January cause

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I'm not, I'm not going to leave it there. You had a comment? Oh it's just silly to

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say I'm glad that the in the other breakdown that miscellaneous has a miscellaneous

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category also. Yes,

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you know, you can't categorize everything. There's always gonna be that weird one-off

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thing and. Gets thrown in there. I want to share one thing just on, on tax revenue,

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sales tax revenue that I might have reported incorrectly at the last meeting, so

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I wanna make sure I corrected is that our treasurer Stacy Preda had identified in

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our budget meeting kind of that that separation of big, big projects from the normal

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retail sales tax for 2020. For and I might have been. I'll just say the correction

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now, which is uh retail sales tax went down 4% in 2024. So those sales tax did go

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up that difference, you know, between that 9%, 9, 9% for October, but I, I think

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it was like 8% over the year or something. So I went down 4% and up 12% based on

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large projects. So probably just uh I know you've always really does.

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I'd say those budget meetings are probably be a value add for you actually.

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A good. OK we have one tomorrow morning. We do 8:30. Um,

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any other questions or comments on the finance report? All right, we'll move on to

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a fairly beefy consent agenda. Um, I move to prove. And move to approve the consent

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agenda is presented. I like that. Becket, any questions, conversation?

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The none all in favor of approving the consent agenda as presented indicate by saying

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I I I. And opposed. Alright, that is unanimous. On

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to new business. I believe we have a presentation about the four corners. We do,

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and Kelly will be um inviting our guests over.

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Welcome. And

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is Christian here?

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Yeah, he's online too. OK.

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I am here for you guys. Yeah, Christian. Right. So we are so excited

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to have Shannon Thompson with um Barker Creek Consulting along with Sydney um with

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Barker Creek Consulting and Christian, I'm not gonna pronounce your last name, Christian,

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with the with the SETI architects, and we are um here today to talk

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about the property, the 111 property. We had some discussions last year about some

410
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Uh, rising costs, some construction costs, um, we had changed project managers, so,

411
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uh, Barker Creek is, um, our official project manager for, um, the facilities building.

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Side note, they're also the project manager for the 3rd Maintenance bay and they're

413
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doing a great job. And every time we get off a meeting, I'm so excited that um that

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they are project managers. Um, so with their guidance, uh, we had started working

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with um Christian at the SEI Architects. Christian came out and had some good conversations

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with staff about What we need in a facility, um, what kind of space we need,

417
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um, for not only vehicles but also staff. So, um, originally we were looking at

418
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constructing a space for our facilities crew. They are being displaced because of

419
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the 3rd maintenance bay. Uh, so they are, um, losing their space, their home, so

420
00:40:29,659 --> 00:40:34,699
we need, we need a new space for them, um, and then that kind of morphed into what

421
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else, um, would, would we want to see how space, uh, the end of last year I told

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the board that I'd like to move forward with, um, the full board having some discussions

423
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about our next steps. Um, so that's what we're, we're doing here today, and I thought

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that Shannon and Christian could help guide us through, um, through a conversation.

425
00:40:58,449 --> 00:41:02,739
Uh, you bet. I think what I'll do is I'll kick things off and then we'll turn the

426
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time over to Christian to kind of walk us through the pieces. But just a little bit

427
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of history, uh, I'm sure, so, uh, you know, as we start to develop uh design and

428
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planning and, and we, we, we, we saw what you had originally planned and we started

429
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to ask questions and some of these questions, um, you know, uh, we just want to make

430
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sure. That, that what is being planned and designed for in your, in your project,

431
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not only uh

432
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Uh oh. And I froze up.

433
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Take it away. I can kind of fill in the gaps where he's going with this. He wants

434
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to make sure that what's being designed not only fulfills the immediate need of the

435
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design, but we also plan for the future as well so that Um, as you get more money

436
00:41:53,969 --> 00:41:58,007
for more capital projects, you can add that bus was, that's a drive-through bus wash.

437
00:41:58,129 --> 00:42:03,169
You can add other things, but how the project was set up previously, it didn't take

438
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into account the future. And so that's one of the things we wanted to focus on with

439
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this.

440
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Thanks good pen in there. You wanna walk us through the site. Is that the next phase?

441
00:42:19,004 --> 00:42:24,006
Yeah, so, um, I think now we can kind of turn it over to Christian to walk through

442
00:42:24,006 --> 00:42:29,439
what he's kind of put together. We've worked together on some slides. Um, I'm not

443
00:42:29,439 --> 00:42:33,989
sure who has the slide deck or if we, if Christian, you can share the screen or.

444
00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:40,012
Yeah, I, I do have it up so I can share a screen. Let's give uh Shannon a moment

445
00:42:40,012 --> 00:42:44,479
though if I see you're back with us. Yeah, I just started, I started talking to the

446
00:42:44,479 --> 00:42:45,084
ether, you know.

447
00:42:47,679 --> 00:42:51,629
Everybody disappeared for a second and I was like, whoa, what happened? But, uh,

448
00:42:51,008 --> 00:42:55,004
I, I think what we're, we're really trying to do is we're gonna give Chris some time

449
00:42:55,004 --> 00:43:00,000
to kind of walk through what we heard so far, what some of your needs that you, your

450
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,006
future needs may be, be, even though they aren't included in the current project,

451
00:43:04,679 --> 00:43:09,011
we still want to hear about them and plan for them. You know, um, again, I, I don't

452
00:43:09,011 --> 00:43:12,035
know the analogy I said was we don't want to paint ourselves into a corner, and I

453
00:43:12,035 --> 00:43:16,062
don't know if you guys heard that or not before I got, I got cut out, but, uh, um,

454
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so taking, taking the site as a complete unit and going, OK, this is what the need

455
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is for maintenance. This is where we can put it without impacting what the future

456
00:43:26,709 --> 00:43:31,082
needs may be and uh really having some thoughtful process into what that looks like.

457
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Um, so with that, I think uh I'll turn the time over to Beetti, let them, um, kind

458
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of walk us through what we heard and what we've uh come up with so far and, and I'll

459
00:43:45,002 --> 00:43:49,919
let you guys ask some questions and see if we can uh start the process here. Sure.

460
00:43:50,919 --> 00:43:56,629
All right, well, thank you. Uh, it's nice to meet all of you. Um. And I, you know,

461
00:43:56,709 --> 00:44:04,036
we are early in this process, so. You know, I, but I think it's, it's good that to

462
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kind of keep you up to speed um and make sure that, you know, where we're going with

463
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:16,076
this is in alignment um with with the board. So can you guys see my screen, uh, the,

464
00:44:16,084 --> 00:44:18,469
the slide up here? OK, great.

465
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And um. Let's see here. I gotta hide my Controls, so they're not in the way. All

466
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right. Um, and so, you know, initially the, the, the goal for, for our involvement

467
00:44:33,078 --> 00:44:41,005
was to help, um, you know, with um sort of completing the, the process that had been

468
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started for a, um, you know, a, a place for the facilities department um to go. Um,

469
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as Nicole mentioned them being displaced on the property and so, you know, sort of

470
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as we got involved in that and we started asking questions as Shannon mentioned,

471
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we just want to make sure that we're taking into account, you know, the larger picture

472
00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:06,959
and so, you know, kind of the goals for our planning study at this point because

473
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we're not designing a new building yet, you know, but we're sort of working towards

474
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that. But first it's just kind of understanding. Um, where is it that we need to

475
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go? So we want to look at, you know, what are the options for the 111 property, what's

476
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the best use for that? How can it support what's going on on the main campus, you

477
00:45:27,199 --> 00:45:33,078
know, planning for for future improvements, um, you know, we. I heard when I was

478
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out there about, you know, some planned additional electric charging stations going

479
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in, the need for a future drive-through bus wash, you know, there's there's a few

480
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other things that are kind of on the wish list or or or kind of, you know, in the

481
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pipeline. And so we just want to make sure we're taking all of that into account

482
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as we're looking at. The you know moving pieces around on here and making sure that

483
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we're, you know, got room for buses to move on the site and taking the utility connections

484
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into account. And so part of our goal for this is to, you know, you know, draw some

485
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of this stuff and plan on the site so that we have a place for it, as well as try

486
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to put some construction cost budgets down for some of these improvements that we

487
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know enough about to be able to describe them. Um, so that you know you guys can

488
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have that as information for future planning and future budgeting, and then obviously

489
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like I said, we want to be looking at the bigger picture of this. So at the same

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time as we're trying to solve programmatic practical needs within the campus, we

491
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also want to be making sure that what we're doing, you know, makes sense from a community

492
00:46:42,025 --> 00:46:49,085
environmental impact standpoint as well. Um, and so, Let's see

493
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here. All right, so kind of what we understand so far from talking with Nicole and

494
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her team, um, I, you know, we need a space for the facilities crew, an office space

495
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for them to work, a workshop space that's large enough for them to do what they need

496
00:47:08,056 --> 00:47:15,055
to do, and storage for the equipment and and parts that they have

497
00:47:15,949 --> 00:47:21,001
and need to have storage for. Um, we also heard that there's currently not adequate

498
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space for doing the training and driver testing maneuvers on the site and that some

499
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additional space and pavement space for that would be really useful. Um, and so we're

500
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taking that into account. We've also talked about, you know, that that it would be

501
00:47:39,939 --> 00:47:47,009
practical to have a second vehicle entry into the fenced area of the of the yard,

502
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and then we also, as I mentioned, we want to make sure we're taking into account

503
00:47:51,419 --> 00:47:56,005
safe, efficient, you know, circulation for buses and vehicles within the yard and

504
00:47:56,005 --> 00:48:01,449
on the site, um. It would appear that the proposed improvements we're talking about

505
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are going to have an impact on the trail that goes around the yard right now outside

506
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of the fence, and then there is the future Discovery Trail, and so, you know, the

507
00:48:14,409 --> 00:48:19,649
idea is we're going to need to make alterations to the trail that's on site. Can

508
00:48:19,649 --> 00:48:23,929
it connect to that discovery trail? What might that look like? What are some things

509
00:48:23,929 --> 00:48:28,949
we might want to keep in mind there and then. You know, we also want to make sure

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that we're planning a strategy that's going to be, you know, efficient, cost effective

511
00:48:33,389 --> 00:48:38,075
around utilities, right? So any new occupiable buildings or structures that we're

512
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going to place on either the main property or the 111 property, they're going to

513
00:48:42,083 --> 00:48:48,034
need utility services. So what's the best strategy for serving those? And getting

514
00:48:48,034 --> 00:48:53,979
those connected and then some of the future things that that we've heard so far as

515
00:48:53,979 --> 00:48:58,979
we've talked about this is, um, you know, at at some point a drive through automatic

516
00:48:58,979 --> 00:49:05,419
bus wash is going to really make Uh, some operational efficiencies for, for the,

517
00:49:06,009 --> 00:49:13,639
for you guys as you expand service and and whatnot, then we need to make sure that

518
00:49:13,929 --> 00:49:18,209
we're planning for any additional parking and vehicle storage that you might need

519
00:49:18,209 --> 00:49:24,011
on site. Um, and then, you know, as as you're talking about with the transition to

520
00:49:24,011 --> 00:49:28,939
electric vehicles, making sure that we've got, you know, that we're not impacting

521
00:49:28,939 --> 00:49:34,051
space or infrastructure that's going to be needed for um charging those vehicles

522
00:49:34,051 --> 00:49:41,239
on site. And then a couple other things that we heard is that there's some space

523
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for record storage that's needed, that the current space in the building is kind

524
00:49:45,028 --> 00:49:52,006
of not meeting the standards for records, and so some new space might be something

525
00:49:52,006 --> 00:49:56,679
that wants to be planned for that, as well as the possibility that there might be

526
00:49:56,679 --> 00:50:02,084
future need for additional offices there on the site somewhere. So those those are

527
00:50:02,084 --> 00:50:08,026
kind of some of the needs that we've heard so far. Um, and, um, you know, as, as,

528
00:50:08,031 --> 00:50:12,879
as we get into this, we might hear about some more or discover some more, um, but

529
00:50:12,879 --> 00:50:17,189
that's kind of, kind of where where we're at after just, you know, a couple of weeks

530
00:50:17,189 --> 00:50:23,003
of uh of discussions on this. Any, any questions on this, um, before I, before I

531
00:50:23,003 --> 00:50:24,059
move on or or thoughts on that?

532
00:50:28,059 --> 00:50:30,058
Go ahead and move on, Christian. All right.

533
00:50:32,189 --> 00:50:38,009
Uh, and so, you know, kind of one of the things that we identified, um, Quickly,

534
00:50:38,129 --> 00:50:44,399
as we've gotten started on this, is that there currently doesn't exist a survey for

535
00:50:44,399 --> 00:50:51,001
the two properties together. So there are drawings from the construction of the main

536
00:50:51,001 --> 00:50:59,001
facility from approximately 2014. Um, and then there was some survey work done on

537
00:50:59,001 --> 00:51:06,082
the 111 property when when the previous sort of process was started for

538
00:51:06,082 --> 00:51:11,086
that, but there's not a coherent survey that sort of documents the existing as built

539
00:51:11,086 --> 00:51:17,739
conditions on the main campus together with the 111 property, so. Um, one of the

540
00:51:17,739 --> 00:51:22,053
things that we propose is to move forward with having a surveyor come out and do

541
00:51:22,053 --> 00:51:29,439
a complete survey of both parcels, and then, and that will really help us to locate

542
00:51:29,439 --> 00:51:33,899
the utilities, the underground utilities on site, make sure that we're documenting

543
00:51:33,899 --> 00:51:38,084
the required easements for those so that again we're not placing proposed structures

544
00:51:38,084 --> 00:51:45,189
on top of stuff that where they can't go. Um, and then, um, one of the other things

545
00:51:45,189 --> 00:51:49,031
that that came up, you know, as we're talking about utilities and connecting things

546
00:51:49,031 --> 00:51:54,083
and permitting and things like that, is that there may be some advantages to combining

547
00:51:54,083 --> 00:52:00,179
the two parcels into a single tax parcel. Um, so that you know for permitting purposes

548
00:52:00,179 --> 00:52:06,739
and utility service purposes we might see some some efficiency. So we're going to

549
00:52:06,739 --> 00:52:11,054
dive into that in a little bit more depth at this point it's just the right now we

550
00:52:11,054 --> 00:52:17,729
just have the intent to study that further and understand the pros and cons for that.

551
00:52:17,739 --> 00:52:24,077
But you know, initially our thought on this was that Um, you know, for water meters

552
00:52:24,077 --> 00:52:31,012
and electrical meters and service, you know, having a single point of service for,

553
00:52:31,129 --> 00:52:36,029
for the property would make sense when you have two tax parcels, you can end up in

554
00:52:36,029 --> 00:52:40,053
situations where you need to have separate meters for each property and separate

555
00:52:40,053 --> 00:52:45,037
service for them, and so there's additional, you know, long term sort of operational

556
00:52:45,037 --> 00:52:50,058
charges that can come with that and so. Um, kind of looking, looking at, at things

557
00:52:50,058 --> 00:52:55,086
from that standpoint, there may be some advantages to move forward with, uh, combining

558
00:52:55,086 --> 00:52:57,003
the two parcels into one.

559
00:52:59,032 --> 00:53:04,056
All right, um, so the kind of the schedule, I don't, is this text too small? I can,

560
00:53:04,639 --> 00:53:11,000
I can zoom in on this a little bit. That's good. OK. Um, but essentially, you know,

561
00:53:11,056 --> 00:53:15,000
our initial part of this was just sort of understanding the problem a little bit.

562
00:53:15,004 --> 00:53:20,006
So for the starting in in January, um. We had kind of a kickoff meeting and then

563
00:53:20,889 --> 00:53:25,889
in February, um, I went out to the site, actually it was the end of January, I was

564
00:53:25,889 --> 00:53:30,000
out there. But anyway, as we've been in this, uh, this initial few weeks of this

565
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,889
of just sort of gathering information, understanding the problem. And now we're kind

566
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of moving into, you know, developing some plans, so. We're gonna move forward with

567
00:53:39,003 --> 00:53:44,079
trying to understand the the context of the site and the utilities on it, um, and,

568
00:53:44,082 --> 00:53:51,026
and creating some diagrams for it, while we, we will be sort of waiting for the completion

569
00:53:51,026 --> 00:53:57,052
of the survey work. And so we're going to get that finalized survey hopefully sometime

570
00:53:57,052 --> 00:54:01,084
in March so that we can then overlay that with some of the initial studies that we've

571
00:54:01,084 --> 00:54:09,004
done and just you know, use that to further inform our work and so the kind of the

572
00:54:09,004 --> 00:54:14,033
plan is to develop several options through March and then come back to you guys in

573
00:54:14,033 --> 00:54:19,669
at your April meeting with, you know, potentially a single kind of recommended plan.

574
00:54:19,076 --> 00:54:25,409
It might have sort of two options still at that point, but the idea is explore a

575
00:54:25,409 --> 00:54:29,699
couple of options during March and potentially narrow that down to a preferred approach

576
00:54:30,057 --> 00:54:35,082
for the 111 parcel in the overall site. Um, to talk about at your April meeting.

577
00:54:35,939 --> 00:54:40,062
So that's kind of the, the overall schedule, um, of, of where we'd like to get to

578
00:54:40,062 --> 00:54:47,001
in the next couple months. Any questions on that? Questions I can't see folks online

579
00:54:47,001 --> 00:54:49,729
but just speak up if you have a question or a comment for Christian.

580
00:54:58,083 --> 00:55:03,056
All right, well, I will, I will move on ahead. So we also started some, just again,

581
00:55:03,057 --> 00:55:07,689
trying to understand the problem, um, we talked with the facilities' crew, kind of

582
00:55:07,689 --> 00:55:11,949
what they're doing. Out there what they would like to be able to do and what their

583
00:55:11,949 --> 00:55:16,689
needs are and started to develop an initial program of spaces, you know, what kinds

584
00:55:16,689 --> 00:55:20,909
of spaces do they need, how big do they need to be, what happens inside of those

585
00:55:20,909 --> 00:55:25,051
so that we can help right size them, and then, you know, we started with an initial

586
00:55:25,051 --> 00:55:30,075
test fit of like how big is big, like when we put all of those programmatic needs

587
00:55:30,075 --> 00:55:36,439
together, um. And start to think of it in terms of a building that could hold all

588
00:55:36,439 --> 00:55:42,075
those activities, how big does it need to be and so kind of our first stab at that

589
00:55:42,076 --> 00:55:47,006
that needs, you know, further discussion and review is, you know, we came up with

590
00:55:47,006 --> 00:55:54,949
approximately 29,003,000 square feet. Would seem to be about the right size, um,

591
00:55:55,028 --> 00:55:59,036
to, to hold all of the the things that they need and give them some elbow room for

592
00:55:59,036 --> 00:56:05,036
future uh future work and and future needs. And then also, as we're talking about

593
00:56:05,036 --> 00:56:11,052
planning for a drive through bus wash building, we need to understand how big is

594
00:56:11,052 --> 00:56:16,051
that, so that, uh, again we can kind of plan where does it need to go and how much

595
00:56:16,008 --> 00:56:22,002
space around it do we need for the buses to maneuver. Um, and so, you know, we, we've

596
00:56:22,002 --> 00:56:27,004
done a few of these facilities and so looking at some of our past projects, we pulled

597
00:56:27,004 --> 00:56:32,909
in. One of our freestanding drive-through bus wash plans, and it's also in that same

598
00:56:32,909 --> 00:56:40,008
kind of size range, 2700 square feet, plus or minus. Hey Chris, Christian, this is

599
00:56:40,008 --> 00:56:46,036
Heidi, and I'm sorry, I'm off camera, but I'm driving and I just, um, how you mentioned

600
00:56:46,036 --> 00:56:49,083
past projects and I thought this might be a good place to interject this question.

601
00:56:50,159 --> 00:56:56,056
How do you, um, factor in like planning for future growth? Like, do you, you know,

602
00:56:56,006 --> 00:57:01,032
when you say you, um, met with the facilities team and estimated that a building

603
00:57:01,032 --> 00:57:07,026
of about, I think you said around 3000 square feet would be good. I, are we planning

604
00:57:07,026 --> 00:57:14,939
for Any increment in future growth or future need. We want to be able to

605
00:57:14,939 --> 00:57:19,001
do that, yeah, so I, you know, I've started the conversation about what might the

606
00:57:19,001 --> 00:57:26,005
future needs look like, um, and, and already, you know, this was what what we planned

607
00:57:26,005 --> 00:57:31,979
here in terms of that 2900 square feet is kind of, you know, a little bit bigger

608
00:57:31,979 --> 00:57:37,669
than um. What their current footprint is, right, for, for, for what they're doing.

609
00:57:37,709 --> 00:57:41,679
And so this already gives them some additional expansion, um, but we do want to test

610
00:57:41,679 --> 00:57:48,389
that out against what are some of the, the planned, um. Future needs for that and

611
00:57:48,389 --> 00:57:53,031
so that over the next month we're going to be continuing to to do that right to try

612
00:57:53,031 --> 00:57:57,629
to identify it, it's always a little challenging right to have a crystal ball and

613
00:57:57,629 --> 00:58:02,028
kind of know what's coming. And so sometimes it's just that we say, well, we don't

614
00:58:02,028 --> 00:58:06,639
really know what else might be needed, but um let's make sure that there's additional

615
00:58:06,639 --> 00:58:13,000
space on site where we might play something, right? So like one of the goals for

616
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:18,075
this is that there's quite a bit of material that's currently stored in some aging,

617
00:58:19,159 --> 00:58:26,009
um, metal, you know, container boxes on site. Um, it'd be prudent to try to provide,

618
00:58:26,001 --> 00:58:33,034
you know, covered dedicated storage space for that material now, but then we might

619
00:58:33,034 --> 00:58:38,034
be doing in our, as we look at the overall site is thinking about where might some

620
00:58:38,034 --> 00:58:44,979
future storage like that go right if future shipping container type storage was going

621
00:58:44,979 --> 00:58:50,058
to be added on site. To accommodate an unforeseen need, um, you know, where, where,

622
00:58:51,229 --> 00:58:55,057
where might it go and have a place dedicated for that type of future expansion, right?

623
00:58:55,629 --> 00:59:00,075
I, I, I think in a nutshell, you know, one of the things as we go through this process,

624
00:59:00,087 --> 00:59:04,085
things get vetted out. One of the things that we heard after we talked with staff

625
00:59:04,085 --> 00:59:09,639
about this design was, was, hey, you know, we have a real need for record storage,

626
00:59:09,077 --> 00:59:16,209
um, that, that, and, and so that is not included into this. And then we have a need

627
00:59:16,209 --> 00:59:20,001
for maybe some future office space and, and, well, that's not included in these,

628
00:59:20,002 --> 00:59:25,055
and, and holistically, We want to look at your site as a whole. Where would it best

629
00:59:25,055 --> 00:59:32,081
serve um JTA to have those needs? Is it in this auxiliary structure or is it in a,

630
00:59:32,939 --> 00:59:36,007
a structure that's attached to your existing structure? These are things that we

631
00:59:36,007 --> 00:59:40,031
need to kind of vet out to kind of help you make those decisions. All, you know,

632
00:59:40,469 --> 00:59:44,003
like I said earlier, this bus wash, it's not in our current scope to, to design you

633
00:59:44,003 --> 00:59:50,053
a bus wash, but We want to make sure that we can fit a bus wash. And so, uh, Basetti's

634
00:59:50,053 --> 00:59:54,079
done a bus wash. I've done a bus wash with uh Central Kitsap School District, and

635
00:59:54,079 --> 00:59:59,037
we have uh a facility here that we've, we've done that with and so we have a pretty

636
00:59:59,037 --> 01:00:04,053
good idea what that footprint needs to be like, um, so we can accommodate where to

637
01:00:04,053 --> 01:00:07,929
put this building for you. So all of those things are being considered as we move

638
01:00:07,929 --> 01:00:13,729
through this. Can I ask just specifically on the storage on the, the, the 2900 square

639
01:00:13,729 --> 01:00:18,006
foot building, is that Record storage plus more storage, is that, am I interpreting

640
01:00:18,006 --> 01:00:22,389
that correctly? No, so this plan actually doesn't take into account the record storage.

641
01:00:22,409 --> 01:00:27,058
This was specifically looking at the facilities related material that they have,

642
01:00:27,062 --> 01:00:33,389
you know, they've got quite a few small vehicles like lawn mowers.

643
01:00:34,076 --> 01:00:41,051
trailers, as well as, you know, a variety of, you know, fencing, scaffolding, signage,

644
01:00:41,076 --> 01:00:46,086
other, you know, various material that that is stored there on site. So just trying

645
01:00:46,086 --> 01:00:51,679
to make sure that we've got a place for that and a strategy for how it's it's kept

646
01:00:51,679 --> 01:00:52,399
and organized.

647
01:00:58,179 --> 01:00:58,054
Question.

648
01:01:00,439 --> 01:01:05,033
On we'll have a just a general question on the The training, the amount of pavement

649
01:01:05,033 --> 01:01:09,659
needed for training, is that, are we including the parking lot that's fairly spar

650
01:01:09,659 --> 01:01:15,061
sparsely used park and ride parking lot in that training? Pavement or do you have

651
01:01:15,061 --> 01:01:20,219
to do it completely without any other cars around? Are you referring to here or at

652
01:01:20,219 --> 01:01:26,082
hands here? We, we don't pull our buses. Um, our parking lot's not rated for. Oh

653
01:01:26,082 --> 01:01:27,005
yeah, especially with electric buses because they wait.

654
01:01:39,053 --> 01:01:44,919
I. All right, um, and so then the other thing that we've done, just again, it's like

655
01:01:44,919 --> 01:01:49,051
we don't, we don't have a complete survey of the property yet, but, uh, just using,

656
01:01:49,629 --> 01:01:55,149
you know, the aerial um information that is available. We started the like how big

657
01:01:55,149 --> 01:02:01,006
is big um exercise of, you know, it's like what do we see when we first start putting

658
01:02:01,006 --> 01:02:08,003
some stuff on here and understanding, um. The size of things. And so, um, kind of

659
01:02:08,003 --> 01:02:13,969
what the the red dotted rectangle here is is kind of shows the sort of minimum footprint

660
01:02:13,969 --> 01:02:21,899
that we need for the bus maneuvering that as an area. Obviously that can overlap

661
01:02:21,899 --> 01:02:28,026
with vehicle driveway and access, etc. right now. On site as we understand it, you

662
01:02:28,026 --> 01:02:33,659
know, that, you know, the footprint of that overlaps with, you know, bus and vehicle

663
01:02:33,659 --> 01:02:39,003
parking and storage. So in order to do the maneuvers on the site now, there's time

664
01:02:39,003 --> 01:02:43,058
invested in having to move a bunch of vehicles and stuff out of the way. So just

665
01:02:43,058 --> 01:02:50,034
looking at at how big is that, um, how big is this, you know, 3000 square foot facilities

666
01:02:50,034 --> 01:02:57,239
building, and how big is is a potential future bus wash building, um, you know. It's

667
01:02:57,239 --> 01:03:03,061
not necessarily a foregone conclusion that either of those needs to go on the 111

668
01:03:03,061 --> 01:03:07,052
parcel. I think one of the things that we want to study is some options that would

669
01:03:07,052 --> 01:03:12,199
say, gosh, would there be any reason why it would make sense for those to be, you

670
01:03:12,199 --> 01:03:18,053
know, on the main property and then use the 111 for more parking or vehicle storage.

671
01:03:19,059 --> 01:03:23,082
You know, I think that's got to be considered, but at least, you know, again as a

672
01:03:23,082 --> 01:03:28,082
test fit, the idea here was like, well, we'll leave the existing facility alone and

673
01:03:28,082 --> 01:03:32,979
just look at how big is the stuff that we're talking about and then particularly

674
01:03:32,979 --> 01:03:39,699
looking at maneuvering space needed so you can kind of see, you know, I dropped in

675
01:03:39,699 --> 01:03:44,939
some turning radiuses for for buses to sort of pull in and out of a drive through

676
01:03:44,939 --> 01:03:48,078
building. Um, so just making sure that the, you know, how big would the pavement

677
01:03:48,078 --> 01:03:54,052
area need around a a structure of that size. Uh, so this just kind of starts to give

678
01:03:54,052 --> 01:04:00,027
us a sense of like, you know, does it fit there, um, how much space does it take

679
01:04:00,027 --> 01:04:05,084
up, etc. those kinds of things. And so, you know, this isn't in any way a well thought

680
01:04:05,084 --> 01:04:10,879
through layout at at the moment. It's just a first step at understanding how big

681
01:04:10,879 --> 01:04:16,077
is this stuff we're we're talking about and um what issues might we see. Immediately

682
01:04:16,077 --> 01:04:21,649
bubbling to the surface as we as we get started on this. So we've got more plenty

683
01:04:21,649 --> 01:04:27,399
of more more work to do on it, but this was just kind of our are dipping our toe

684
01:04:27,399 --> 01:04:29,629
in the water. So to speak.

685
01:04:33,029 --> 01:04:37,055
Can I ask Christian, you, you talked about the, the need for more parking, but this

686
01:04:37,055 --> 01:04:41,058
doesn't incorporate that yet. So lots of these ideas are still just kind of,

687
01:04:43,969 --> 01:04:47,229
yeah, right, exactly, yeah, that's, that's not overlaid on this because we haven't

688
01:04:47,229 --> 01:04:51,469
really, we need to have some more conversations to understand, you know, how much

689
01:04:51,469 --> 01:04:56,079
parking would we want to be discussing. Um, you can see, you know, even as we overlay

690
01:04:56,079 --> 01:05:03,005
this on here, uh, we might be, you know, Interfering with some existing parking,

691
01:05:03,009 --> 01:05:06,889
so we'd want to be looking to, you know, where does that go and can we make sure

692
01:05:06,889 --> 01:05:11,037
that that's accommodated and then what how much additional vehicles would we need

693
01:05:11,037 --> 01:05:16,085
on here so as we sort of right size the amount of pavement and the you know potential

694
01:05:16,085 --> 01:05:22,055
perimeter of fencing, um. We got to start taking all that into account. So yeah,

695
01:05:22,629 --> 01:05:27,009
we haven't haven't gone so far as to address that yet. And can I also ask the uh

696
01:05:27,009 --> 01:05:31,699
the the kind of the top little square that connects the existing parking lot to below,

697
01:05:32,219 --> 01:05:36,229
that's not on 111, right? Is that part of the reason that we're talking about combining

698
01:05:36,229 --> 01:05:40,083
the pro the parcels because we're right now have a project that's that spans two

699
01:05:40,083 --> 01:05:47,929
parcels? Correct, yes. Mhm. Right. And and as I mentioned, you know,

700
01:05:48,003 --> 01:05:54,639
because the this Is a separate parcel from a utility standpoint, we want to look

701
01:05:54,639 --> 01:05:58,959
at, does it make sense to bring, you know, utility service off of the road to serve

702
01:05:58,959 --> 01:06:04,889
these or if we want to use the service from the main site and just connect those

703
01:06:04,889 --> 01:06:10,129
into it, that might be a reason for uh just combining this into a singular property.

704
01:06:11,629 --> 01:06:14,053
That process will probably take like a year though, right? If we want to do that,

705
01:06:14,006 --> 01:06:21,032
that's something we should start. Um, yes, it, it, it does take a little bit of time,

706
01:06:21,729 --> 01:06:27,409
typically from a permitting, you know, um, and utility standpoint, as long as the

707
01:06:27,409 --> 01:06:33,025
agencies involved understand that that process is underway, um, it's, it's typically

708
01:06:33,025 --> 01:06:39,979
not a barrier, um. Yeah, and it's very often that a lot of these parcel combinations

709
01:06:39,979 --> 01:06:44,077
and uh things don't happen until even after I, I construct the building. Like, uh,

710
01:06:44,078 --> 01:06:50,139
currently I'm doing a parcel merge on another project, um, that we just finished

711
01:06:50,139 --> 01:06:54,062
that had 3 parcels to it. So, it, it does, as long as like Christian said, as long

712
01:06:54,062 --> 01:06:57,689
as there's an understanding that that's what the plan is and it goes in that way,

713
01:06:58,026 --> 01:07:02,005
uh, we're good to go. That is really easy to work with, so.

714
01:07:06,053 --> 01:07:11,036
It's just just for the sake of getting bored in the public, um, the testing maneuver

715
01:07:11,036 --> 01:07:17,082
is that mainly break testing? We have seen that out here. Yes, so we do break testing.

716
01:07:17,909 --> 01:07:25,229
We're also doing testing for actual CDL exams. Um, there's phones and there's backing

717
01:07:25,229 --> 01:07:31,989
maneuvers. Um, Gary Maxfield is a third party tester, so we do quite a bit of testing

718
01:07:31,989 --> 01:07:36,229
for column transit, uh, KidsA Transit, and Mason Transit.

719
01:07:40,899 --> 01:07:45,026
At the bus barn facility for Central Kitsap School District, we have a testing rundown

720
01:07:45,026 --> 01:07:50,929
facility also that's heavy pave, concrete, and uh they, the state comes and does

721
01:07:50,929 --> 01:07:53,077
their testing there with the buses, so.

722
01:07:59,026 --> 01:08:04,699
So I think I would be interested in hearing from the board or anything, is there

723
01:08:04,699 --> 01:08:10,929
anything that we presented that is cause for concern? Are we moving in a direction,

724
01:08:11,034 --> 01:08:18,091
um. The board feels like we shouldn't be moving in. Christian, maybe you could

725
01:08:18,091 --> 01:08:23,043
stop sharing for a second. Yes, I hid my control though, so now I have to figure

726
01:08:23,043 --> 01:08:25,083
out how I sharing.

727
01:08:31,093 --> 01:08:37,969
Bear, bear with me while I uh figure that out. Uh, thoughts in the room first. board

728
01:08:37,969 --> 01:08:43,059
members, but might might just really based thought and I don't know all the details,

729
01:08:43,139 --> 01:08:47,139
but, you know, the idea of adding more cement, you know, I just wanna make sure it's

730
01:08:47,139 --> 01:08:51,179
not for the sake of it just in case maybe because you couldn't do that incrementally

731
01:08:51,179 --> 01:08:57,056
over time, I would think, you know, bunch of trees are coming down. Are we being

732
01:08:57,056 --> 01:09:00,799
as efficient as possible? I mean, I think they more or less addressed that, but I

733
01:09:00,799 --> 01:09:05,002
just, I guess that's a constant concern. I didn't, we're not necessarily taking all

734
01:09:05,002 --> 01:09:08,839
these trees down at this point, are we? We're talking about just planting the whole

735
01:09:08,839 --> 01:09:16,769
area. So right now, yeah, we're, we're looking to do a site plan um with

736
01:09:16,769 --> 01:09:22,778
the intention of going out for funding. OK and probably taking all the trees down

737
01:09:22,778 --> 01:09:28,378
at at that time because, yeah. Well, we do recognize that the ODT is going to be

738
01:09:28,378 --> 01:09:32,858
at the front end of the property and we still want to make sure that we're in line

739
01:09:32,858 --> 01:09:36,929
with that buffer and the easement that we agreement that we have with the county.

740
01:09:37,219 --> 01:09:43,169
Um, and we also don't want it to be like, uh, And pleasant, right, so we are, I think

741
01:09:43,169 --> 01:09:48,014
we are the earth, yeah, considering it, uh, taking that into consideration, but yeah,

742
01:09:48,029 --> 01:09:53,209
and I think that we do like aesthetics at transit, so we get a pretty bus in the

743
01:09:53,209 --> 01:09:53,569
lot. We

744
01:09:56,052 --> 01:10:00,189
help and girl over at. And I do think that one of the options, you know, that we,

745
01:10:00,529 --> 01:10:04,079
we will probably want to think about or look at it is like incremental phasing, right?

746
01:10:04,091 --> 01:10:10,031
So it could be that we say here's what we need, you know, in order to do the facilities

747
01:10:10,031 --> 01:10:16,109
building, and then, you know, if the bus wash is a future item, then the pavement

748
01:10:16,109 --> 01:10:20,029
associated with it may also be part of the future, right? You don't necessarily need

749
01:10:20,029 --> 01:10:27,018
to. Um, pave the entire area all at once. Um, it could be looked at as a, as a, you

750
01:10:27,018 --> 01:10:34,379
know, flip one in future. When it comes to contracting the pieces out, we will only

751
01:10:34,379 --> 01:10:39,074
do enough disturbance for whatever it is that we decided to build. So we're, we're

752
01:10:39,074 --> 01:10:46,279
not gonna like strip a lot, put gravel down everywhere. That's just not good, good,

753
01:10:46,041 --> 01:10:51,729
uh, management as far as uh. Because there's all kinds of implications that, that

754
01:10:51,729 --> 01:10:56,085
happen when you do that. One of them is stormwater, right? I, I, stormwater ponds,

755
01:10:56,093 --> 01:11:01,093
what do I do with it? How do I treat it. So, we're, we'll, we'll, we'll keep the

756
01:11:01,093 --> 01:11:07,609
impacts focused into the phases that we deliver them to you in. So, if that is phase

757
01:11:07,609 --> 01:11:12,029
one, this, uh, you know, uh, maintenance facility and phase two is a bus wash, they

758
01:11:12,029 --> 01:11:16,037
would be, have their own impacts, their own disturbance, their own removal, their

759
01:11:16,037 --> 01:11:24,006
own Uh, impacts in general. Now, one thing we will look at is if all of the impacts

760
01:11:24,006 --> 01:11:28,529
would, would require a storm pond of a certain size, we'll look at maintaining that

761
01:11:28,529 --> 01:11:33,279
we, we set aside enough to expand the pond or make it large enough at the time to,

762
01:11:33,037 --> 01:11:37,959
to deal with that. The problem with trying to build for the future is that the future

763
01:11:37,959 --> 01:11:44,068
codes are always changing on us. Yes. And because they're changing on us, we're always

764
01:11:44,068 --> 01:11:48,919
chasing our tail, hoping that, hey, let's put all these extra things in and then

765
01:11:48,919 --> 01:11:53,006
when we go to build it, we can't use any of it. And all that was wasted money. So

766
01:11:53,006 --> 01:11:57,899
we look at that stuff pretty high, uh, deeply. Speaking of water, just with the the

767
01:11:57,899 --> 01:12:04,066
bus washing. You know, with being on septic, how much does that limit the the design

768
01:12:04,066 --> 01:12:11,189
or something like that. I'm just curious, but that a big Reclaim reclaim. Yeah, so

769
01:12:11,189 --> 01:12:16,109
the all of the bus washes that I built are reclaimed water filter system. So the

770
01:12:16,109 --> 01:12:19,066
water, the only thing you're actually getting out is you're, you have to muck out

771
01:12:19,066 --> 01:12:26,035
the, the, the, the grit, yeah, after a while, but the water is constantly be

772
01:12:26,035 --> 01:12:31,079
recirculate recirculated. Um, is there some that runs out? Yeah, there is, and you're

773
01:12:31,079 --> 01:12:35,001
constantly putting more in because every time you drive a bus out, you've lost, you

774
01:12:35,001 --> 01:12:41,419
know, so many gallons of water, right? But uh um yeah, I, I have a, I mean, I'm,

775
01:12:41,529 --> 01:12:46,779
I'm happy to take people through the Central Kitsap School District uh bus wash anytime

776
01:12:47,001 --> 01:12:51,006
if anyone wants to see one, so. Let be in a bus going through it but

777
01:12:53,045 --> 01:12:54,509
like go to the car washing.

778
01:12:56,569 --> 01:13:00,799
I might be able to arrange that through a bus if you would like. It

779
01:13:03,259 --> 01:13:06,005
There's no room for a hydrogen fuel electrolyzer. It's, it's all right.

780
01:13:10,649 --> 01:13:15,919
I got, I got a question about bus wash. How often does a bus get washed?

781
01:13:18,979 --> 01:13:23,068
And you use every day or is it? No, right now what we have, we do have a reclaim

782
01:13:23,068 --> 01:13:29,399
system now, but it is not automated. That's wash. It's a bucket and brush. Wash takes

783
01:13:29,399 --> 01:13:36,319
almost 2 hours for large coach. So right now, uh we can accommodate washing 3 large

784
01:13:36,319 --> 01:13:42,043
coaches a day. Versus and we have to fit in all of, all of our other smaller vehicles

785
01:13:42,043 --> 01:13:46,054
and cutaways and everything so. That's what we're, that's what we're dealing with

786
01:13:46,054 --> 01:13:52,033
that we're talking, yeah. And the ones that we're talking about is a drive-through

787
01:13:52,033 --> 01:13:56,077
bus wash. And that's, that's so, and because it's a drive-through bus wash, they

788
01:13:56,077 --> 01:14:00,077
do it more frequently, especially during storms and after, you know, they spread

789
01:14:00,077 --> 01:14:04,047
gravel and crap all over the road. Those buses get dirty really quick and so they

790
01:14:04,047 --> 01:14:08,074
just run them through. Um, they do have an auxiliary bay on the outside that they

791
01:14:08,074 --> 01:14:12,979
can do some more detailed cleaning to them if they want to scrub them down. Um, but,

792
01:14:13,089 --> 01:14:17,052
uh, yeah, it's, I think when you're, when you're dealing with it more frequently,

793
01:14:17,077 --> 01:14:24,058
um, it's not, it's not as hard. Yeah. Right, but I, you know, I've seen a lot of

794
01:14:24,058 --> 01:14:31,007
life labor saving devices that turned out to make it more problematic in other ways.

795
01:14:33,229 --> 01:14:37,109
So if you have a bus wash that's easy to go through, then you're washing your bus

796
01:14:37,109 --> 01:14:42,097
every day as opposed to once a week maybe, and then you have all this water requirement,

797
01:14:43,027 --> 01:14:48,039
and it, you know, it kind of spirals. So I'm thinking you're addressing that kind

798
01:14:48,039 --> 01:14:54,549
of stuff when you're putting your plan together. Yeah, well, if, if, if we were asked

799
01:14:54,549 --> 01:14:59,009
to, to design you a bus wash, we would go through all of those steps and, and show

800
01:14:59,009 --> 01:15:03,779
you what that looks like. And we have several examples of some that are operating

801
01:15:03,779 --> 01:15:07,859
and we could get real-time feedback of how those uh clients like those bus washes

802
01:15:07,859 --> 01:15:11,859
and if they're working well for them. So, um, but yeah, I mean, we would certainly

803
01:15:11,859 --> 01:15:18,109
go through that it's, uh, And for, for our purposes, the bus wash is a big block

804
01:15:18,319 --> 01:15:22,012
that says, this is how big of a space we need to set aside for it to, so you could

805
01:15:22,012 --> 01:15:26,006
build it in the future. Unless you told us, hey, we, it's a real desire for us to

806
01:15:26,006 --> 01:15:30,016
have a bus wash and we would, we would elevate that at your direction, so.

807
01:15:32,079 --> 01:15:33,066
Rick, did you have a question?

808
01:15:35,279 --> 01:15:39,006
I, yeah, I, I have a question about the, the clearing of the property. So what it,

809
01:15:39,022 --> 01:15:45,819
what does it make sense to clear like a To clear it all at once and then just. Depending

810
01:15:45,819 --> 01:15:50,339
on the market conditions, so you get the most most money out of those trees that

811
01:15:50,339 --> 01:15:54,259
are there or whatever trees that are there. We don't have any trees that don't give

812
01:15:54,259 --> 01:16:00,459
us any money. Yeah, and, and when it comes to clearing, usually when it comes to

813
01:16:00,459 --> 01:16:05,339
clearing and we put stuff out and design, um, design bid bill because you're a public

814
01:16:05,339 --> 01:16:09,939
agency, that money, you know, it doesn't, it, it doesn't come back to you in the

815
01:16:09,939 --> 01:16:17,569
same way, right? You, you can't sell it. You can auction it. um, but usually what

816
01:16:17,569 --> 01:16:22,008
we do is, uh, we put that as part of the contractor's package and then they decide

817
01:16:22,041 --> 01:16:25,045
whether they want to lower their bid because if there's value in the timber, a lot

818
01:16:25,045 --> 01:16:28,062
of times they'll lower their bids because there's value in the timber or they'll,

819
01:16:28,081 --> 01:16:33,089
or they'll sell that timber. It just, it, it doesn't really, it's not really effective

820
01:16:33,089 --> 01:16:39,002
for a public agency to, to sell timber. I, I know, since, like, just a question I

821
01:16:39,002 --> 01:16:45,799
have. Yeah. It's a good question. Other questions? I just had a question about the

822
01:16:45,799 --> 01:16:53,052
um. Training On the, you know, on potentially new concrete. Is

823
01:16:53,052 --> 01:16:58,064
that you were, you mentioned that other counties are coming and using your space.

824
01:16:58,919 --> 01:17:03,068
Are they using JTA space now to do some of their training, or they're projecting

825
01:17:03,068 --> 01:17:07,072
that they would need to do that? They're not using our space for training, but for

826
01:17:07,072 --> 01:17:15,002
testing. So they come and do. A few hacking exercises and um

827
01:17:15,002 --> 01:17:22,000
kind of pull through they they they train at their their facility and then our third

828
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:26,399
party tester tests them in order for them to achieve their license. So think of it

829
01:17:26,399 --> 01:17:30,016
like the, the DOL drive test. Are you gonna get your license or not? That's what

830
01:17:30,016 --> 01:17:35,689
he's doing. OK. So my reason for asking is, is that a revenue source? Are you renting?

831
01:17:36,043 --> 01:17:41,109
Do they pay you to do it or it's just a an organizational kind of exchange? Several

832
01:17:41,109 --> 01:17:49,066
years. It was, we were at a critical point where we could not test CDL drivers, um,

833
01:17:49,669 --> 01:17:55,074
and transit as an industry came together and worked with the Department of Licensing

834
01:17:56,029 --> 01:18:03,001
to put together classes to Certified transit employees to be able to issue the third

835
01:18:03,001 --> 01:18:08,045
party tests. I mean, at one point, a Department of Licensing was down to 2 testers

836
01:18:08,045 --> 01:18:13,012
for the entire state and that's for trucks and buses. So really as an industry, we

837
01:18:13,012 --> 01:18:17,031
pooled our resources to say how do we make sure that that's not what's going to prevent

838
01:18:17,031 --> 01:18:25,014
us from service on the road. So we, um, we sent, um, someone to go certify

839
01:18:25,014 --> 01:18:30,669
every agency has someone representing them. So they train, we train our own staff

840
01:18:30,669 --> 01:18:34,479
and then we send our people to get because you can't, you can't test and you can't

841
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:40,919
train and test. So we train them uh to pass and then we send them to another agency.

842
01:18:41,209 --> 01:18:46,097
So it's uh check and balance and patting each other's backs on this we're supporting

843
01:18:46,097 --> 01:18:50,209
each other by being able to train our own employees and then send them to another

844
01:18:50,209 --> 01:18:56,049
agency for the test. So it's, it is more or less a requirement that we provide that

845
01:18:56,229 --> 01:19:03,509
facility and so. You know, when we look at it's great, yeah, when you do that sort

846
01:19:03,509 --> 01:19:09,047
of check and balance or that, you know, pro and con around creating more impervious

847
01:19:09,047 --> 01:19:15,087
surface versus keeping trees, you know, that's, that's what, that's what I was going

848
01:19:15,087 --> 01:19:19,859
through in my mind. And you need a certain amount of area to do the testing here.

849
01:19:20,109 --> 01:19:23,027
Yeah, that makes sense. OK, thank you for going through that with me.

850
01:19:25,091 --> 01:19:30,079
a great conversation. Any last questions for Christian or Shannon, or thoughts?

851
01:19:33,419 --> 01:19:33,091
There

852
01:19:35,259 --> 01:19:41,045
All good. OK, I appreciate the thoughtfulness. Oh wait, yeah, we appreciate your

853
01:19:41,045 --> 01:19:46,081
time and uh we'll continue to work and, and, and push, push this through and we'll

854
01:19:46,081 --> 01:19:51,879
report back to you in about 6 weeks. Really exciting. Thank you for your help. Thank

855
01:19:51,879 --> 01:19:52,279
you.

856
01:19:55,043 --> 01:19:58,399
All right, uh, makes the next thing easier to swallow, right? Let's architects.

857
01:20:02,049 --> 01:20:08,066
It's a great lead into that one. So we, uh, one of the recommendations was that we,

858
01:20:08,079 --> 01:20:15,079
um, we do a site plan for, um, for the two properties. So we, Jefferson Transit staff

859
01:20:15,079 --> 01:20:23,012
are requesting authorization to amend the SEI architects uh contract. Um, to allow

860
01:20:23,012 --> 01:20:30,879
for us to pay for that site plan. Site survey site survey here, does it include an

861
01:20:30,879 --> 01:20:37,109
Alta survey? Sorry, is it, does it include the actual UTA survey, the land survey,

862
01:20:37,189 --> 01:20:41,004
or just a, yeah, and it would be for both properties, so yeah.

863
01:20:44,035 --> 01:20:46,189
How does that get priced out?

864
01:20:48,569 --> 01:20:53,359
There's a there's an amendment to the the study contract attached to the resolution

865
01:20:53,359 --> 01:20:57,081
that explains um their cost proposal for that survey in addition to their original

866
01:20:57,081 --> 01:21:01,097
proposal for their services and it's on page.

867
01:21:03,459 --> 01:21:03,047
Mm

868
01:21:06,959 --> 01:21:07,064
91.

869
01:21:09,399 --> 01:21:13,089
So essentially it's a, it's a sub to the setti that is going out to do the land survey.

870
01:21:14,006 --> 01:21:17,025
So they've they've reached out to a land surveyor, they've got a pricey for him,

871
01:21:17,058 --> 01:21:19,022
and that's what was presented to you guys today.

872
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,089
And that total amount is 55,120.

873
01:21:33,035 --> 01:21:34,014
Other questions?

874
01:21:36,189 --> 01:21:40,959
Yeah, go ahead if you got a motion you'd like to make. Last month or two, but uh

875
01:21:40,959 --> 01:21:45,279
I'm going to approve the resolution 2506 authorizing the general manager to sign

876
01:21:45,279 --> 01:21:48,919
an amendment to the contract with Petti Architects.

877
01:21:52,209 --> 01:21:58,085
I'll second that it's Heidi. All right, by Ben. Any further conversation, questions?

878
01:22:00,024 --> 01:22:07,399
All in favor of approving resolution 2506 indicate by saying I. I They posed

879
01:22:08,097 --> 01:22:15,569
Extensions, all right, that is unanimous. Um, great. Next is the new tag chair introduction.

880
01:22:16,979 --> 01:22:24,005
So we are so excited to invite Linda, if you wanna come on over. Uh, Linda

881
01:22:24,005 --> 01:22:31,694
McIntyre is our new, um, tag chair. Uh, Debbie Yonke is, um, the vice

882
01:22:31,694 --> 01:22:37,435
chair, uh, so I think we've got a strong tag team, um, but we invited,

883
01:22:39,845 --> 01:22:44,995
so we invited Linda to introduce herself and, um, to speak with you for a few moments.

884
01:22:45,685 --> 01:22:50,484
Thanks, Nicole. I'm really excited to be here. I joined TA in, in, uh, July of this

885
01:22:50,484 --> 01:22:55,279
year, and I'm a relative newcomer to the Port Town to Port Townsend. Um, but I bring

886
01:22:55,279 --> 01:23:00,072
with me 30+ years of experience in transit and transportation and trail building,

887
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:05,259
mostly with the National Park Service over the last 20 years, just recently retired

888
01:23:05,259 --> 01:23:10,439
from that. Um, uh, but I do bring a practical sense also of 9 years working in a

889
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:17,229
public works department, so I have a keen interest in can you get it done, um. So,

890
01:23:17,024 --> 01:23:22,439
and, um, I also bring a background in grant writing too. I led the team that got

891
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:27,097
over $25 million for Grand Canyon for, for their fleet recapitalization two years

892
01:23:27,097 --> 01:23:32,068
ago. So, um, that's kind of my context is bringing those technical skills and and

893
01:23:32,689 --> 01:23:38,041
and fresh eyes maybe to what it is, all the good work that is being done by the board

894
01:23:38,041 --> 01:23:42,609
and by the staff for Jefferson Transit um agency. I've been so impressed by what

895
01:23:42,609 --> 01:23:47,014
I've seen so far and I'm excited about leading the team. I did want to take a moment

896
01:23:47,014 --> 01:23:51,169
to to um help you guys be aware of a small shift that we're doing when you're looking

897
01:23:51,169 --> 01:23:56,939
at our agendas, and we're gonna be adding some educational and advocacy topics in

898
01:23:56,939 --> 01:24:02,009
our role to advocate for transit to make us better advocates. So you'll see, um,

899
01:24:02,002 --> 01:24:05,779
kind of in general, you'll see two things on our agendas from now on. You'll see

900
01:24:05,779 --> 01:24:09,939
an educational topic, the one that's coming up in March is going to be how to use

901
01:24:09,939 --> 01:24:14,859
third-party navigation apps like Google Maps and Apple Maps and Transit and move.

902
01:24:15,033 --> 01:24:21,079
To be a transit writer. Why do you do that? Um, so something like a 1015 minute presentation,

903
01:24:22,129 --> 01:24:26,081
all of you are always welcome to listen in on that, you know, or to watch the recording

904
01:24:26,081 --> 01:24:30,979
or to ask us in advance if there's anything that you'd like to see in that presentation.

905
01:24:31,037 --> 01:24:35,045
But you'll see it come out in our agendas. Um, and in general, we'll also be adding

906
01:24:35,045 --> 01:24:39,029
it's like a topic of the day and then the first one up is going to be a left turn,

907
01:24:39,033 --> 01:24:44,033
right turn, I believe in a presentation update in March 1 after that in May is going

908
01:24:44,033 --> 01:24:50,002
to be on the link between affordable housing and transit. So topics that are of keen

909
01:24:50,002 --> 01:24:55,006
interest to Jefferson County, to the board, and to both um the city and the county

910
01:24:55,006 --> 01:25:00,012
as well. So a slight shift in that, you'll see that represented on the on the um

911
01:25:00,012 --> 01:25:04,959
agendas that you see, and certainly we welcome your feedback and your interests,

912
01:25:05,279 --> 01:25:08,759
um, and any adjustments you'd like to see and how we're doing because we're here

913
01:25:08,759 --> 01:25:11,083
to support. All of you and support the stuff.

914
01:25:13,339 --> 01:25:15,709
That's great. Thanks so much, Linda. What was your last. When are these meetings

915
01:25:15,709 --> 01:25:15,081
again, I believe is March 9th.

916
01:25:26,079 --> 01:25:27,045
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Yes, I

917
01:25:37,031 --> 01:25:40,979
see you on the 5th. Yeah, great, and we certainly appreciate it when we do these

918
01:25:40,979 --> 01:25:44,399
sessions, we're hoping to do something again like the equivalent of either 10 PowerPoint

919
01:25:44,399 --> 01:25:50,359
slides or 10 minutes, whatever format works, not to overdo it, introduce some things

920
01:25:50,359 --> 01:25:55,919
that might be a common interest to staff, the board, and to tag. So I, I look forward

921
01:25:55,919 --> 01:25:59,919
to working with. Yeah, likewise, your, your, your background and energy are, are

922
01:25:59,919 --> 01:26:03,709
very strong. So it's great. Debbie, Debbie Jake has been such a strong chair for

923
01:26:03,709 --> 01:26:07,319
tag as well. And such a fierce advocate for transit in Jefferson County. I mean,

924
01:26:07,052 --> 01:26:11,099
it's been a really, it's been a boon to have the group, and I'm I'm happy to join

925
01:26:11,099 --> 01:26:16,052
you on the 5th and at future TA meetings and thank you for your leadership. Looking

926
01:26:16,052 --> 01:26:19,319
forward to supporting everybody in the months and years to come.

927
01:26:21,459 --> 01:26:29,007
Thank you. All right, questions or comments for Linda? Welcome aboard. Thank you

928
01:26:29,007 --> 01:26:30,759
so much.

929
01:26:34,039 --> 01:26:40,062
All right, back to the agenda here, moving right along. So we have uh the resolution

930
01:26:40,062 --> 01:26:44,099
2507. Nicole, you want to tee up the drug and alcohol policy. I'm gonna do it. Miranda.

931
01:26:47,058 --> 01:26:54,259
OK, so Resolution 2507 is our drug and alcohol policy update. Uh, this is focused

932
01:26:54,259 --> 01:26:59,056
on safety sensitive employee testing. So, to align with an updated Federal Transit

933
01:26:59,056 --> 01:27:04,069
Administration guidance, uh we are proposing revising the safety sensitive employee

934
01:27:04,069 --> 01:27:10,399
list in our policy to remove dispatchers, as their regular duties do not meet the

935
01:27:10,399 --> 01:27:17,319
FTA's safety sensitive uh criteria. This change um ensures our compliance and optimizes

936
01:27:17,319 --> 01:27:23,004
the allocation of testing resources. So what FTA found is that they had a lot of

937
01:27:23,004 --> 01:27:30,083
um Employees or people in the pool that were not meeting their safety sensitive uh

938
01:27:31,109 --> 01:27:35,709
hours, like the level of time that they actually spend performing safety sensitive

939
01:27:35,709 --> 01:27:40,509
duties. Um, and they were realizing that uh it was diluting their testing pool, so

940
01:27:40,509 --> 01:27:43,087
they weren't testing the people that were actually behind the wheel or performing

941
01:27:43,087 --> 01:27:51,008
safety sensitive, um. So just as reference our dispatchers, um, do not do

942
01:27:51,008 --> 01:27:58,209
safety sensitive, um, more than 50% of their time, and In terms of what safety sensitive

943
01:27:58,209 --> 01:28:03,012
as a dispatcher is, and that means real-time turn by turn traffic direction of buses.

944
01:28:03,045 --> 01:28:09,879
Um, you know, our operation staff put together really great routes and detours. Um,

945
01:28:10,129 --> 01:28:15,049
so the, it's never a turn by turn situation. It's very rare that we're doing turn

946
01:28:15,049 --> 01:28:22,089
by turn directions for our, our operators. Um, so, while it was a hard pill to swallow

947
01:28:22,089 --> 01:28:28,089
at first, um, we are removing our dispatchers from that safety sensitive list. That

948
01:28:28,089 --> 01:28:34,609
does not mean that they are not subject to the rest of our testing policies, so they

949
01:28:34,609 --> 01:28:42,279
would still be subject to our reasonable suspicion, pre-employment, return to. Return

950
01:28:42,279 --> 01:28:50,052
to duty testing, um, and potentially we could implement a non-DOT random program

951
01:28:50,052 --> 01:28:55,000
here at Jefferson Transit, um, and the policy language is reflected to support that

952
01:28:55,000 --> 01:29:00,047
implementation. I will tell you, uh, I don't think we have the resources and the

953
01:29:01,077 --> 01:29:07,945
it doesn't, our staffing level does not necessitate it at this time. Um, we. did

954
01:29:07,945 --> 01:29:14,105
introduce in our last contract the possibility to have a relief dispatch or we had

955
01:29:14,105 --> 01:29:20,826
relief dispatch relief drivers, which means that any represented staff member who

956
01:29:20,826 --> 01:29:28,425
was a CDL carrier and passed our training requirements for drivers would be able

957
01:29:28,425 --> 01:29:35,082
to step into a relief driver position. We have one dispatcher who potentially could

958
01:29:35,771 --> 01:29:42,972
apply for that and fill that position as well as dispatch. In that case, we would

959
01:29:42,972 --> 01:29:47,492
have to see if they meet the 50% or more. If they're not doing it 50% or more, they

960
01:29:47,492 --> 01:29:51,521
would not be subject to this as well. So this is why the discussion came up as to

961
01:29:51,651 --> 01:29:56,731
it wasn't an easy thing for us to to to go from A to B here. We had many discussions

962
01:29:56,731 --> 01:30:01,819
about what that would look like for Jefferson Transit. So, um, supervisors and managers

963
01:30:01,819 --> 01:30:06,058
will only be included in the pool if safety sensitive tasks occupy more than 50%

964
01:30:06,058 --> 01:30:11,027
of their work time, um, and all of our employees remain subject to the drug and alcohol

965
01:30:11,027 --> 01:30:17,093
testing, um, under our broader JTA policy, um, excluding a DOT random testing unless

966
01:30:17,093 --> 01:30:23,062
they are designated safety sensitive. So we um are the the redline version of the

967
01:30:23,062 --> 01:30:27,068
drug and alcohol policy was included in the packet, and we are asking, uh, requesting

968
01:30:27,068 --> 01:30:33,399
the board to approve resolution 2507 updating Jefferson Transit's drug and alcohol

969
01:30:33,399 --> 01:30:38,031
policy. There's only one change really under random testing pretty much, is that

970
01:30:38,031 --> 01:30:43,229
right? Yes, and the and the the appendix where we remove dispatch and we we drop

971
01:30:43,229 --> 01:30:50,095
it down. We take it from sensitive to non-sensitive, yeah. Questions

972
01:30:50,095 --> 01:30:58,029
on drug and alcohol policy changes proposed. Makes sense. It's

973
01:30:58,029 --> 01:31:00,056
an easy update because we updated this last year,

974
01:31:02,209 --> 01:31:09,037
yeah. I guess my only question is you in the random testing section, you said the

975
01:31:09,037 --> 01:31:14,549
language in the red line says that they will be subject to due to regulated random

976
01:31:14,549 --> 01:31:19,089
drug and alcohol testing. I thought you were saying that you were just reserving

977
01:31:19,089 --> 01:31:22,359
the right to to implement that. Is that,

978
01:31:25,339 --> 01:31:32,007
am I missing non DOT. So they could be subject to non- DOT random. Well this says

979
01:31:32,007 --> 01:31:37,099
employee employee employees classified as safety sensitive will be subject to DOT.

980
01:31:38,012 --> 01:31:43,229
So if they've already, if you've identified safety sensitive, so if they're on list

981
01:31:43,229 --> 01:31:50,509
in Appendix A, they are safety sensitive. It's the, the, um. Non-safety sensitive

982
01:31:50,509 --> 01:31:58,339
classified per DOT testing, we could have a non-DOT test, a random program, uh, at

983
01:31:58,339 --> 01:32:03,005
this moment in time that would be zero employees, potentially one employee. It's

984
01:32:03,005 --> 01:32:05,859
really hard to design randoms around one employee

985
01:32:08,033 --> 01:32:15,359
so we. We built the policy for potential growth. Uh, we get more staff that want

986
01:32:15,359 --> 01:32:20,045
to become relief drivers. Um, we didn't want to have to revisit this, so that makes

987
01:32:20,045 --> 01:32:25,799
perfect sense. Thank you for describing it, just clarifying that difference. Other

988
01:32:25,799 --> 01:32:28,002
questions about resolution 2507.

989
01:32:33,083 --> 01:32:39,779
Um, I, I can, I can make a motion. I think you're using the summaries, right, to

990
01:32:39,779 --> 01:32:45,049
make your motion. I'm following along, right? I would make a motion a motion to,

991
01:32:45,259 --> 01:32:53,075
um, adopt resolution 25-07 updated JTA drug and alcohol policy. I'll

992
01:32:53,075 --> 01:32:56,045
second that. David seconds.

993
01:33:02,169 --> 01:33:06,043
Heather with her first JTA motion further comments or questions. All right, all in

994
01:33:06,043 --> 01:33:08,081
favor of the motion on the floor, indicate by saying aye.

995
01:33:10,209 --> 01:33:17,299
Right. And he opposed. The abstentions, all right, passes unanimously onto the transit

996
01:33:17,299 --> 01:33:25,016
coordination grant. So, I, I did include um some background information about the

997
01:33:25,016 --> 01:33:33,000
transit um coordination grant, um. So in the fall, Jefferson Transit, Clallam Transit,

998
01:33:33,008 --> 01:33:39,093
and Jefferson County applied for a transit coordination grant with Washad. Um, we

999
01:33:39,093 --> 01:33:47,000
were successful in that grant. The premise behind that grant was to help agencies,

1000
01:33:47,209 --> 01:33:54,027
um, coordinate, um. Getting getting individuals to a Washington State Ferry. So only

1001
01:33:54,027 --> 01:34:01,047
select um counties um were permitted to apply for this grant. Um, again, we were

1002
01:34:01,047 --> 01:34:09,031
successful with the idea being that we have identified the Gateway Visitor Center

1003
01:34:09,031 --> 01:34:15,669
as a location where possibly Clallam Transit and Jefferson Transit could make a connection.

1004
01:34:16,089 --> 01:34:20,093
With the 123 straight shot, Clallam's 123 straight shot, which runs from Port Angeles

1005
01:34:20,093 --> 01:34:26,299
to the Bainbridge Island ferry, and then Jefferson Transits um Kingston Express,

1006
01:34:26,037 --> 01:34:33,359
which runs between Port Townsend and the Kingston Ferry terminal. Um. Jim Fetzer

1007
01:34:33,359 --> 01:34:38,859
and I had had some good conversations about what it would look like if, if our two

1008
01:34:38,859 --> 01:34:44,008
communities were able to share that service so that we're not duplicating um services

1009
01:34:44,008 --> 01:34:49,000
so that, you know, each agency isn't sending a bus to the exact same place. The roundabout,

1010
01:34:49,279 --> 01:34:54,334
uh, the new roundabout last He, um, really did allow for a safe connection place.

1011
01:34:54,415 --> 01:34:59,694
We had been, um, really kind of thinking about some different places and had ruled

1012
01:34:59,694 --> 01:35:05,694
out, um, the Discovery Bay area is, is really not a safe place to do that. So this

1013
01:35:05,694 --> 01:35:11,339
presented itself as an, um, as an option. Uh, so applied for the grant. We were successful

1014
01:35:11,339 --> 01:35:16,077
with our grant application. This grant has a really tight turnaround. We have from,

1015
01:35:16,779 --> 01:35:24,006
uh, January through June 30th to spend our money. Jefferson Transit did ask Jefferson

1016
01:35:24,006 --> 01:35:30,074
Transit, uh, with the other entities applied for a $100,000 grants. Um, really our

1017
01:35:30,074 --> 01:35:38,002
goal was to create a site plan. At the Gateway Visitor Center, uh, we would be looking

1018
01:35:38,002 --> 01:35:45,052
at paving that lot, um. Looking at adding some bus shelters, uh, restrooms,

1019
01:35:45,919 --> 01:35:52,016
um, for future restrooms, um, Commissioner Brotherton would like to see a food cart.

1020
01:35:52,072 --> 01:35:59,479
They're also taking into account some EV chargers, um, so really kind of looking

1021
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:05,052
at what we could do to make that, uh, space a connection point for transit, but also

1022
01:36:05,052 --> 01:36:11,169
the community and visitors at large. Um, Commissioner Brotherton has been um in the

1023
01:36:11,169 --> 01:36:16,074
meetings with us, so when we're meeting to discuss this project, we put out, uh,

1024
01:36:16,085 --> 01:36:23,095
I say we. Jamie put out an RFQ and we again had a

1025
01:36:23,095 --> 01:36:31,091
really tight turnaround. We uh the group identified SCJ Alliance as um as uh the

1026
01:36:31,091 --> 01:36:37,027
engineer, the engineering group, uh, to work on this. 3 applications that, right?

1027
01:36:37,047 --> 01:36:44,029
Yes, we had 3 applications. I don't remember what all three the names of the other

1028
01:36:44,029 --> 01:36:51,649
two. I just 2nd and 3rd place we went with SCJ, um, so attached you will find,

1029
01:36:52,049 --> 01:36:58,759
um. You'll find the resolution um SCJ's, uh, oh, actually, sorry, I'll step back.

1030
01:36:58,089 --> 01:37:06,075
First, we are asking for um authority for me to sign the grant agreement,

1031
01:37:07,129 --> 01:37:12,002
and then moving on past that, we would be asking for authorization for me to sign

1032
01:37:12,529 --> 01:37:16,729
um a contract with um SCJ Alliance.

1033
01:37:19,018 --> 01:37:20,016
Questions?

1034
01:37:25,379 --> 01:37:31,054
I have a question about the flow of the grants. I mean, there's been all this uproar

1035
01:37:31,054 --> 01:37:32,077
about federal

1036
01:37:34,459 --> 01:37:41,085
funding and whatnot. Is it Is this grant stable? I mean, can we count on it?

1037
01:37:43,004 --> 01:37:47,529
We can this grant is funded by the um Washington State Climate Commitment Act, so

1038
01:37:47,529 --> 01:37:53,359
it's state funds. It's not coming from a federal source. But it would be who has

1039
01:37:53,359 --> 01:37:58,669
to be as quick as we could about doing everything with it, right? Right. I don't

1040
01:37:58,669 --> 01:37:59,819
have a choice, really.

1041
01:38:05,072 --> 01:38:07,589
Amy and should be stressing about this. I turned it around grant around this fast?

1042
01:38:07,075 --> 01:38:14,029
No, no, no a procurement this fast. So, um, yeah, this has been like we're eating

1043
01:38:14,029 --> 01:38:20,814
feet on this. So Vivian, to answer your question, um, was that requires that We expend

1044
01:38:20,814 --> 01:38:28,535
this, this grant by June 30th. So really, we had less than 6 months to, um, to

1045
01:38:28,535 --> 01:38:33,495
spend this money. And really, we're using this money just for the development of

1046
01:38:33,495 --> 01:38:40,375
a site plan so that later on this year, we can go out for, um, another type of grant

1047
01:38:40,375 --> 01:38:46,004
to actually do the construction. So this will, this, um, This grant will allow us

1048
01:38:46,004 --> 01:38:50,439
to just develop the site plan, so then we can move forward with um grant applications

1049
01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:52,169
in the fall. Maybe

1050
01:38:54,279 --> 01:39:01,008
there is grant money for it in the fall. Yeah. We, we are going to um proceed as

1051
01:39:01,008 --> 01:39:03,319
if there will be. OK.

1052
01:39:08,012 --> 01:39:14,031
I mean, and even if there isn't, you've still got a plan that you can search. Having

1053
01:39:14,031 --> 01:39:20,079
shovel ready projects means finding it, it, it really does make your ability to get

1054
01:39:20,079 --> 01:39:26,027
into a grant and get grant where it's so much easier. You know, concept plans are

1055
01:39:26,027 --> 01:39:30,669
really hard for them to kind of, you get more buy-in, more support when you've got

1056
01:39:30,669 --> 01:39:38,279
shovel ready. Does it help that it's cross agency more than just. In terms of grants

1057
01:39:38,279 --> 01:39:44,091
and this was a unique grant because it was very focused on uh transit and transit

1058
01:39:44,091 --> 01:39:52,037
connections to uh. The ferry system. And it almost seemed like it was designed specifically

1059
01:39:52,037 --> 01:39:56,939
for this idea that we had like someone was listening and they're like, let's design

1060
01:39:56,939 --> 01:40:01,006
a grant for them because they need it. Remarkable the timing of all this, it's all

1061
01:40:01,006 --> 01:40:06,022
coming together. Connecting the fast ferry, the Kingston fast ferry connector and

1062
01:40:06,022 --> 01:40:11,066
this great shot is also just a huge growth opportunity for partnership with Transit.

1063
01:40:11,975 --> 01:40:17,095
Well, and, and like Nicole said that, you know, that this has been a, a bored, uh,

1064
01:40:17,345 --> 01:40:22,265
topic for years about how to connect with the straight shot. And, you know, really

1065
01:40:22,265 --> 01:40:25,865
from a safety perspective, transit's concern was those left hand turns across the

1066
01:40:25,865 --> 01:40:32,544
highway. Uh, and we know that 104, uh, is not great for accidents. It's, you know,

1067
01:40:32,584 --> 01:40:38,058
101 and 104 seem to be some of the worst highways. So, You know, and left hand turns,

1068
01:40:38,062 --> 01:40:44,839
if you, if you look at the insurance, uh, left hand turns are up there, um, and Some

1069
01:40:44,839 --> 01:40:48,072
of the more dangerous ones, especially when you're in a gilly bus. Uh, people don't

1070
01:40:48,072 --> 01:40:53,279
gauge how slow you're going to take that train, um, or, you know, they think they

1071
01:40:53,279 --> 01:40:58,479
can beat the bus. Uh, so you get, you get some reckless driving when it comes to

1072
01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:03,056
buses because people are like, I don't want to get stuck. Yeah. And so, uh, this

1073
01:41:03,056 --> 01:41:08,008
roundabout, I think, um, we really, we talked about how to navigate and we thought,

1074
01:41:08,024 --> 01:41:11,895
well, you know, A lot of people are against roundabouts, but transit, we love them.

1075
01:41:12,995 --> 01:41:16,314
They eliminate left hand turns for us and we love them. And the straight shot in

1076
01:41:16,314 --> 01:41:18,765
Discovery Bay, those stops are not even um stops really. They're actually they're

1077
01:41:18,765 --> 01:41:19,035
just someone's property that doesn't even I mean I've been talking to the property

1078
01:41:19,035 --> 01:41:19,174
really frustrated. I mean, Was kind of

1079
01:41:31,314 --> 01:41:37,529
um playing some some uh. I don't know. There, there's, there's mixed feelings about

1080
01:41:37,529 --> 01:41:43,049
who owns those spots shelter. They said they don't own the shelters, that the shelter

1081
01:41:43,049 --> 01:41:45,169
is actually from Olympics. I mean, it's so this would really make the straight shot

1082
01:41:51,081 --> 01:41:57,049
as well. And also the Dungeness line too, having a place where the Dungeness can

1083
01:41:57,049 --> 01:42:00,939
stop where you can park your car and leave it. Yeah, no, so it's great, David, go

1084
01:42:00,939 --> 01:42:05,319
ahead. Yeah, I just wanted to say I'm very supportive of uh anything that increases

1085
01:42:05,319 --> 01:42:11,091
inter interoperability of various uh public transit systems. So I think this is fantastic,

1086
01:42:11,959 --> 01:42:17,000
helping get people out to uh Port Townsend, Jefferson County without having to drive

1087
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:24,093
a car. Uh, so I will happily move to approve resolution 25-08. And I'm happy to

1088
01:42:24,093 --> 01:42:30,529
second this because it, it gets more people on the bus, which is our number one goal,

1089
01:42:30,649 --> 01:42:31,002
right?

1090
01:42:34,054 --> 01:42:38,029
All right, just before this, do we foresee this changing the route schedule at all

1091
01:42:38,029 --> 01:42:45,569
if we're kind of, yeah. Right now the the two services don't line up, so we, but

1092
01:42:45,569 --> 01:42:51,064
right now, um, call and transit is running the straight shot more frequently than

1093
01:42:52,033 --> 01:42:57,062
um. Kingston Express, so. It's completely doable.

1094
01:42:59,669 --> 01:43:03,095
Any other conversation before we, yeah, go ahead, Rick. Yeah, I just like to point

1095
01:43:03,095 --> 01:43:06,259
out that I did suggest this 3 years ago.

1096
01:43:11,027 --> 01:43:15,509
Name it after Rick. how long it takes for an idea to Well, I was shot down then and

1097
01:43:15,509 --> 01:43:19,085
just like talking about the electric buses, it takes some perspective when you're

1098
01:43:19,085 --> 01:43:25,083
not, when you're not a politician, you think with things differently. I think that

1099
01:43:25,083 --> 01:43:31,209
and take that in mind. Right. Common sense, common sense outweighs other things.

1100
01:43:32,031 --> 01:43:37,069
Yeah, I think, uh, Nicole and, and staff too were motivated by the new roundabout

1101
01:43:37,069 --> 01:43:40,087
which made this possible, right? So I mean things have changed, you know, but you

1102
01:43:40,087 --> 01:43:44,047
know, watch out, they're not really politicians either,

1103
01:43:46,069 --> 01:43:53,002
so which stands. Um, all right. All in favor of the motion on the floor approving

1104
01:43:53,002 --> 01:43:54,939
resolution 2508.

1105
01:43:58,054 --> 01:44:03,859
Did you get by saying hey. All right. Rick Burton, stop. I'm, I'm, I'm down for that.

1106
01:44:04,189 --> 01:44:09,018
OK, next up, still connected, do you want to talk about STJ Nicole? Yes, so, um,

1107
01:44:09,189 --> 01:44:17,031
again, with Jamie's quick work, uh, we were able to identify SCJ Alliance as um as

1108
01:44:17,031 --> 01:44:22,014
what we believe to be the best um option for moving forward with the cycling. Um,

1109
01:44:22,149 --> 01:44:29,069
so we have included a resolution authorizing um me to sign a contract with with SCJ.

1110
01:44:31,005 --> 01:44:38,069
Can I just ask what were the points? Was it, uh, were they? Less expensive, better,

1111
01:44:38,016 --> 01:44:43,012
uh, better deliverables, both. What made you choose them just in a nutshell. So with

1112
01:44:43,012 --> 01:44:47,006
an architectural and engineering, um, solicitation like this, you actually, uh, you

1113
01:44:47,006 --> 01:44:51,047
don't get to bring price into it. So it's a request for qualifications. So basically,

1114
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:56,002
we explain the project in a scope of work, um, when I put out a request for qualifications

1115
01:44:56,002 --> 01:45:01,027
and then anybody that responds, um, we have weighted scoring criteria that is listed

1116
01:45:01,027 --> 01:45:07,066
in the RFQ. That then we just take the, take the submissions that we get and so we

1117
01:45:07,066 --> 01:45:14,058
have a, a team of people that evaluate, um, and score each firm, each response, and

1118
01:45:14,058 --> 01:45:18,047
then we make a cumulative score of each one and whoever is the highest scoring, we

1119
01:45:18,939 --> 01:45:23,005
start there. This was, thank God we're able to come to an agreement on the, on the

1120
01:45:23,005 --> 01:45:27,709
price of the scope and fee with SCJ cause, uh, you start with your highest, highest

1121
01:45:27,709 --> 01:45:32,319
scoring firm. And negotiate a scope and fee with them at that point, if you can't

1122
01:45:32,319 --> 01:45:36,008
come to an agreement about that, then you move on to the next highest scoring firm.

1123
01:45:36,002 --> 01:45:41,339
So, um, thankfully, SCJ was our highest scoring, and we were able to negotiate an

1124
01:45:41,339 --> 01:45:47,004
acceptable scope of work fee with them and get this contract today. So, um, and I'm

1125
01:45:47,004 --> 01:45:49,839
happy to share with you if you want to see any of the scoring documents or anything

1126
01:45:49,839 --> 01:45:53,919
that we used or the other submissions, um, shoot me an email and I'm happy to share

1127
01:45:53,919 --> 01:46:01,039
those with you, just on that. on the, on the contract negotiation. So it's just

1128
01:46:01,039 --> 01:46:07,509
remarkable to be how much SSCJ Alliance works in this community, which can be a really

1129
01:46:07,509 --> 01:46:10,709
great thing because they, I, you know, they know this community well. I worked with

1130
01:46:10,709 --> 01:46:14,091
them on a project in downtown Port Townsend 10 years ago. They've, you know, they've

1131
01:46:14,091 --> 01:46:20,095
been. Working here a lot, but, um, it also always just kind of puts it on my radar

1132
01:46:20,095 --> 01:46:25,799
like, is it a foregone conclusion that we're always choosing CJ or we, you know,

1133
01:46:26,069 --> 01:46:29,002
I just I'm interested in, you know, why they're great.

1134
01:46:32,027 --> 01:46:34,000
Yeah, yeah. So anyway, thanks for entertaining that.

1135
01:46:36,279 --> 01:46:42,005
OK. Well, I would uh welcome a motion approving resolution 2509. So there's more

1136
01:46:42,005 --> 01:46:43,027
questions.

1137
01:46:45,629 --> 01:46:51,045
Um, do we already have a motion? I would move to approve resolution resolution 2509

1138
01:46:51,045 --> 01:46:57,006
authorizing the general manager to sign a contract with SCJ Alliance. Second.

1139
01:46:59,062 --> 01:47:06,729
Any further questions or comments? All in favor of approving resolution 2509 as presented

1140
01:47:06,729 --> 01:47:08,002
indicate by saying aye.

1141
01:47:10,939 --> 01:47:16,379
All right, only 13 minutes behind schedule. I guess we're gonna have to have slightly

1142
01:47:16,379 --> 01:47:18,045
abbreviated reports from, but we'll ask what's going on. Hm.

1143
01:47:21,819 --> 01:47:28,016
OK. I, um So in your packet is my full report, and so I will not read it to you,

1144
01:47:28,459 --> 01:47:34,649
um. Something exciting that we did yesterday was all staff training day, um, and

1145
01:47:34,649 --> 01:47:39,729
that's a, um, we have it on President's Day, so we're not operating service, um,

1146
01:47:39,081 --> 01:47:46,169
but it's an opportunity for all staff to get together and um just use some big group

1147
01:47:46,169 --> 01:47:51,068
training as well as breaking up into groups to do some individualized training. Um,

1148
01:47:51,689 --> 01:47:56,279
it is the only opportunity we have, um, because you cannot otherwise get all of the

1149
01:47:56,279 --> 01:48:01,149
operators together in one room, um, unless you're doing that on a Sunday, and that's,

1150
01:48:01,279 --> 01:48:02,459
I don't like that.

1151
01:48:04,759 --> 01:48:10,002
Um, so, but it was a really good day. We did, um, some harassment training, um.

1152
01:48:14,689 --> 01:48:20,009
So we're all clear now what we can and cannot do in the workplace. We, um, reviewed

1153
01:48:20,009 --> 01:48:27,099
benefits. We talked about some safety goals, um, we gave an agency update. Um, we

1154
01:48:27,099 --> 01:48:34,043
all had lunch together, um, and then from there operators, um, broke out, um, to

1155
01:48:34,043 --> 01:48:39,075
Hayne's place. Um, the morning session was at the Legion hall. We are no longer able

1156
01:48:39,075 --> 01:48:46,075
to fit all of our staff in this room. Uh, so, uh, uh, drivers went to, um, Hayne's

1157
01:48:46,075 --> 01:48:53,979
place, um, mechanics were here, um. ItsA Transit, um, came and did a

1158
01:48:53,979 --> 01:48:58,779
great presentation for mechanics on the electric bus, so some, some good training

1159
01:48:58,779 --> 01:49:04,002
there facilities, did some training, um, Sarah and her team did some training as

1160
01:49:04,002 --> 01:49:10,779
well on Uh, with Easter Seals, um, and then, um, admin staff did some training on

1161
01:49:10,779 --> 01:49:17,043
Microsoft 365 and kind of some of the um options that we have as far as uh bringing

1162
01:49:17,043 --> 01:49:23,149
us up into the present. So, very good day overall, we're pretty excited about all

1163
01:49:23,149 --> 01:49:30,149
staff Trading Day. I hope the staff was as excited as we were. Um, other than that,

1164
01:49:30,031 --> 01:49:34,091
um, again, I'll let you read all of, all of my report. I gave a brief update on our

1165
01:49:34,091 --> 01:49:37,959
projects, um, but I will turn it over to

1166
01:49:44,024 --> 01:49:49,081
Amy yesterday. It was a really good day. We did the operators um for our portion.

1167
01:49:49,093 --> 01:49:56,049
We did mock accident drills with front door evacuations of an ADA passenger and rear

1168
01:49:56,049 --> 01:50:00,049
door evacuations. Um, so it was a really productive.

1169
01:50:02,089 --> 01:50:07,077
Um, on my report, I just would like to highlight that on January 17th, we sent Jim

1170
01:50:07,077 --> 01:50:13,045
Springer, our field supervisor, and a supervisor vehicle to represent Jefferson Transit

1171
01:50:13,045 --> 01:50:18,359
for Sean Yin's Memorial, who is the transit operator that was murdered in Seattle.

1172
01:50:18,089 --> 01:50:22,959
Um, seems like that happened a long time ago, but I just wanted to bring that up.

1173
01:50:23,037 --> 01:50:30,005
I was also there. Um, we had some snow, don't know if you guys noticed. Seems like

1174
01:50:30,005 --> 01:50:36,001
a long time ago too, so that disrupted some service, went really well. I redid the

1175
01:50:36,001 --> 01:50:42,959
weather plan for reroutes and we canceled minimal service. Um, we were communicating

1176
01:50:42,959 --> 01:50:48,006
all on the same page, making sure no one was stranded. Um, over and on the east end

1177
01:50:48,006 --> 01:50:52,799
they got a lot or the west end, they got a lot of snow, so they had to cancel service

1178
01:50:52,799 --> 01:50:59,002
for a day, but we had that up and running, um, in the after the next afternoon. Um,

1179
01:50:59,229 --> 01:51:05,018
yeah, like Nicole said, we have, hopefully 32 for sure, transit operators starting

1180
01:51:05,018 --> 01:51:11,043
on the 24th. That's how volatile, um, this driver shortage and staffing thing is.

1181
01:51:11,509 --> 01:51:15,091
Literally, when I wrote this, it was 4. I had to change it to 3, and now it's like

1182
01:51:15,091 --> 01:51:21,052
might be 2. but we're trying, we're, we're triers cause we are committed to putting

1183
01:51:21,052 --> 01:51:26,669
extra service on the road, like straight up, that's like always on on our minds of.

1184
01:51:27,039 --> 01:51:30,014
on you guys, like, you can't do 70 hours a week. That's buckle up.

1185
01:51:33,149 --> 01:51:37,087
So the ridership again, we're, we're comparing from the year before instead of always

1186
01:51:37,087 --> 01:51:44,009
going back to 2019, and things look better when we do that, um, except for forks.

1187
01:51:44,189 --> 01:51:49,509
They talk is that's, you know, on our radar this year when we get, um, staffing and

1188
01:51:49,509 --> 01:51:54,049
training set up for me to go over there and our new marketing person. And do some

1189
01:51:54,049 --> 01:51:59,045
social media, um, and really hit that area and do better over there. We just have

1190
01:51:59,045 --> 01:52:03,093
to figure out what it is we need to do. Can I give you one note on that. I talked

1191
01:52:03,093 --> 01:52:08,077
to the Claylock Lodge, and they are incredibly dependent on JTokC because they often

1192
01:52:08,077 --> 01:52:13,089
have about half their staff or seasonal employees that often don't have cars, so

1193
01:52:13,089 --> 01:52:19,000
they rely on Jaok to go shopping and you know, the Aberdeen, so. That's a good, you

1194
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:24,000
know, probable about a good percentage of your population is coming from that seasonal

1195
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:30,095
staff at, at Claylock. We, I think we do see that uptick in the summer, the play

1196
01:52:30,095 --> 01:52:35,939
love writers, it's that core that baseline that we're, we're looking at, I think,

1197
01:52:36,039 --> 01:52:43,091
yeah. Can I ask you, in going from 4 to 3 to 2, um, applicants or

1198
01:52:43,091 --> 01:52:49,037
potential new employees, do you see any Are there trends in that that you're seeing

1199
01:52:49,037 --> 01:52:54,083
consistently? What is it that's making them accept a job application? I mean, I know

1200
01:52:54,083 --> 01:53:00,229
there's all kinds of other trends about how many the applicant pool in general, but

1201
01:53:00,229 --> 01:53:05,014
when you see accepted applications and then they never make it to their first day.

1202
01:53:05,027 --> 01:53:10,109
What trends are you seeing in there? I would say the only trend would be they've

1203
01:53:10,109 --> 01:53:15,075
changed their mind, but then also, um, have to have them drug tested and then they

1204
01:53:15,075 --> 01:53:21,041
have to pass. Um, for their permits for the CDL, and so they're just not making it

1205
01:53:21,041 --> 01:53:22,919
through those steps, is that

1206
01:53:25,068 --> 01:53:30,569
from uh my experience in operations and going through that. What I noticed is that

1207
01:53:30,569 --> 01:53:35,609
it takes a specific person to to be a transit driver. The, the, the work and the

1208
01:53:35,609 --> 01:53:41,075
schedule and the skill set is very unique and it's not for everybody and um. One

1209
01:53:41,075 --> 01:53:47,043
other thing that we noticed is that when you come from private to public, that transition

1210
01:53:47,043 --> 01:53:53,058
from uh The public is very regimented. We got a lot of policies and rules and not

1211
01:53:53,058 --> 01:53:58,052
everyone. apt to that. And so, I think it does make it a little bit more challenging

1212
01:53:58,052 --> 01:54:04,919
when you're trying to grab from a, uh, a wider applicant pool. And I would say that

1213
01:54:04,919 --> 01:54:10,509
Jefferson Transit is, uh, is somewhat unique in that, uh, we offer driver training

1214
01:54:10,509 --> 01:54:18,001
for like, we train for CDL. A lot of agencies, uh, hire CDL only. Um, We are seeing

1215
01:54:18,001 --> 01:54:23,087
more agencies start doing that, uh, but the, the training cost is, uh, can be extensive.

1216
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:28,259
So on that note, I mean, are we, are we doing enough to screen out people who we

1217
01:54:28,259 --> 01:54:35,014
truly won't. yeah, we've, we, I mean, we've been very selective about who we decide

1218
01:54:35,014 --> 01:54:39,689
to interview. And I will say, back when I was a metro driver when I applied here,

1219
01:54:39,979 --> 01:54:44,919
I had 24 people and I thought, I'm not gonna get this job. I mean, it was really

1220
01:54:44,919 --> 01:54:48,041
competitive. And right now, it's like you get a couple of applications and you're

1221
01:54:48,041 --> 01:54:50,041
like, thanks, but no thanks.

1222
01:54:52,209 --> 01:54:55,095
And it's not like you can hire people who aren't qualified or suited for the job.

1223
01:54:56,004 --> 01:55:03,399
You just, you can't. That's public safety and Yeah, uh, that's tough. Before we move

1224
01:55:03,399 --> 01:55:07,859
away from Amy cause I know we only have a few minutes. I do wanna say that when it

1225
01:55:07,859 --> 01:55:15,018
snows. So Amy is up at 3:45 and uh we're all up

1226
01:55:15,018 --> 01:55:21,109
and up. Have you seen, have you seen the cameras, Nicole? And we're driving over

1227
01:55:21,109 --> 01:55:26,589
Mount Walker and um we're hitting all of the routes before the drivers do. So when

1228
01:55:26,589 --> 01:55:32,035
we say like, oh, there's a snow event, it's a really, it makes for a a long day,

1229
01:55:32,043 --> 01:55:37,879
a long week, um, but really kudos to Amy because she, um, is really just kind of

1230
01:55:37,879 --> 01:55:42,899
monitoring the weather and the Uh, the cameras and, um, Can I ask you a question

1231
01:55:42,899 --> 01:55:45,022
that you don't have to answer now? I appreciate the compliment, but you're going

1232
01:55:45,022 --> 01:55:50,006
to move on, but, uh, someone complained about the county's traffic cameras, of which

1233
01:55:50,006 --> 01:55:55,419
there's one on Central Road, um, but that's actually a PUD camera. And when I reached

1234
01:55:55,419 --> 01:55:59,037
out to them about why it wasn't updating, they said, oh, we'll take a look at it,

1235
01:55:59,419 --> 01:56:03,049
and also as we do this fiber work, are there other county roads that you'd like to

1236
01:56:03,049 --> 01:56:06,009
have cameras on? Oh yes.

1237
01:56:09,379 --> 01:56:14,041
List my own my own great idea because you know I don't think just my street is really

1238
01:56:14,041 --> 01:56:15,062
the one that we should put it on. So you have to do it in front of your work when

1239
01:56:15,062 --> 01:56:15,669
you're at home

1240
01:56:31,035 --> 01:56:33,075
you can't make it. I could look out like oh it's so bad here. I usually do and then

1241
01:56:33,075 --> 01:56:34,054
I you know don't want to

1242
01:56:38,054 --> 01:56:38,006
like it looks from here.

1243
01:56:40,129 --> 01:56:44,589
My brain goes to, oh, I should now add Greg to the my little text chain and say.

1244
01:56:48,529 --> 01:56:48,899
Yeah, yeah, it's the worst.

1245
01:56:53,068 --> 01:56:57,569
All right, sorry, we're short of time, but yeah, I think, I think, yeah, that's about

1246
01:56:57,569 --> 01:57:01,045
it. So yeah, Kingston is on the way up. That's a popular route and we're excited

1247
01:57:01,045 --> 01:57:05,799
to say that we're, that's one of the first routes we will probably do in addition

1248
01:57:05,799 --> 01:57:11,319
to along with Brennan. So these things are on our mind with this comprehensive um

1249
01:57:11,319 --> 01:57:18,169
operations, and it's like, let's let's go, let's go. Pass it on to Sarah.

1250
01:57:19,319 --> 01:57:25,549
Um, so for the mobility side, um, on all staff training day yesterday, the dispatchers

1251
01:57:25,549 --> 01:57:30,024
and customer service, um, we had a sensitivity training, and it was really focused

1252
01:57:30,024 --> 01:57:36,259
on, um, a communications and people with people with disabilities and Um, dealing

1253
01:57:36,259 --> 01:57:40,379
with difficult customers and all sorts of things that happen when people call in

1254
01:57:40,379 --> 01:57:46,979
or come into our facility. Um, it went really well and um we were appreciative of

1255
01:57:46,979 --> 01:57:52,006
Easter seals. They, they offer some really great trainings. Uh, for the van pool,

1256
01:57:52,649 --> 01:57:58,005
we have launched it officially. We sent out letters and um our website is up and

1257
01:57:58,005 --> 01:58:03,025
running with um all new documents and everything's kind of revamped. So we're looking

1258
01:58:03,025 --> 01:58:09,029
forward to it and we're gonna continue some outreach with it. Uh, and then with other

1259
01:58:09,029 --> 01:58:15,509
community outreach for there was quite a few this past few months, um, I'll do really

1260
01:58:15,509 --> 01:58:20,064
quickly. We went to an event at Habitat for Humanity for the Mason Street project,

1261
01:58:20,079 --> 01:58:27,027
um, and then uh went to the city planning for the EBA routes, um, and we've been

1262
01:58:27,027 --> 01:58:34,075
working with Dash on the mobility and. Um, in the city, um, we are partnering with

1263
01:58:34,075 --> 01:58:39,062
the Jefferson County Farmers Market, so we've been meeting with Tanya Burkett of

1264
01:58:39,062 --> 01:58:44,419
Usawa Consulting. I hope I said that correctly, um, and then Dash members as well,

1265
01:58:44,045 --> 01:58:47,075
and we're going to be doing some training over there for the booth to make sure that

1266
01:58:47,075 --> 01:58:53,027
they're accessible and can try to teach um what they can do to meet others' needs

1267
01:58:53,027 --> 01:59:00,049
and kind of be aware on that ADA end. Uh, and then we're also gonna be, um, Kelly

1268
01:59:00,049 --> 01:59:05,033
and I have a meeting with the librarian at Saylor Post Elementary to do the literacy

1269
01:59:05,033 --> 01:59:10,097
night again. We're really excited about that. And that's about it. Um, and for dialeride

1270
01:59:10,097 --> 01:59:17,569
ridership, it's, it was slightly down in November and December, but, um, that's usual.

1271
01:59:17,649 --> 01:59:21,959
It slows down a little bit after the holiday season. Um, overall though, it's going

1272
01:59:21,959 --> 01:59:26,379
up. Can you remind us quickly what the requirements are for the VA pool. It's great

1273
01:59:26,379 --> 01:59:30,529
to hear that program going up, but who qualifies to be able to use the VA pool? Um,

1274
01:59:30,066 --> 01:59:37,029
it's going to be a commute, so you're either starting or ending in Jefferson County,

1275
01:59:37,062 --> 01:59:44,008
and then it's a group of Minimum of 3, yeah, and

1276
01:59:44,959 --> 01:59:49,629
Miranda used to do it minimum of 3, and we did the house bill change too, so it used

1277
01:59:49,629 --> 01:59:54,005
to be 5 and I almost said 5. I was like I have to think about that for a second.

1278
01:59:54,068 --> 02:00:02,016
It's 3. So we, we redid the pricing structure to make it. More affordable and really

1279
02:00:02,016 --> 02:00:07,149
particularly hoping to reach some areas where transit or buses might not reach. Um,

1280
02:00:07,052 --> 02:00:12,129
so, yes, please spread the word about it. And um it's really based on daily round

1281
02:00:12,129 --> 02:00:18,879
trip vehicle miles and um each person pays their portion, and that's that. It's not

1282
02:00:18,879 --> 02:00:22,006
going to be a lot of different price points trying to figure out who should pay what,

1283
02:00:22,609 --> 02:00:26,759
and um I feel that's pretty affordable. Thanks. Thanks, Sarah.

1284
02:00:28,779 --> 02:00:34,189
OK, I'll just touch base on uh what I did with facilities on training since we, we

1285
02:00:34,189 --> 02:00:40,339
know what mechanics did with the gilig. Um, we covered uh bloodboard pathogen cleanup,

1286
02:00:40,939 --> 02:00:45,779
for cleaning up the spills and biohazard cleanup spills and what to watch for. Um,

1287
02:00:45,091 --> 02:00:50,099
we went in and how to read an SDS sheet and where those were contained, and then

1288
02:00:50,099 --> 02:00:56,029
SDS sheet is a safety data sheet. We have to have a safety data sheet on all chemicals

1289
02:00:56,029 --> 02:01:01,007
on premise that we use. It has multiple, a lot of information in there some 15 pages

1290
02:01:01,007 --> 02:01:03,097
long, some are too, but it's basically.

1291
02:01:06,109 --> 02:01:10,529
What is, is it a corrosive? Is it an explosive, you know, those type of things? What

1292
02:01:10,529 --> 02:01:16,000
kind of PPE you need to be wearing, you know, is it an air tint is an inhaling irritant,

1293
02:01:16,008 --> 02:01:20,000
and everything else. So you get information off that, what to do if you swallow it

1294
02:01:20,000 --> 02:01:25,093
or if it gets on you or anything. Um, so we covered that. And then, um, how to do

1295
02:01:25,093 --> 02:01:32,004
what's called secondary containment labeling. If you take a chemical out of its original

1296
02:01:32,004 --> 02:01:35,359
container, and you're mixing a smaller bottle, you have to have a certain type of

1297
02:01:35,359 --> 02:01:39,839
labeling on that, and you get a lot of that information from your SDS sheets if you

1298
02:01:39,839 --> 02:01:46,016
don't have it on your original container. And then also we did um how to handle a

1299
02:01:46,016 --> 02:01:47,007
fuel spill out on our fuel island.

1300
02:01:49,479 --> 02:01:57,459
And, and go ahead litter. Not to play kitty litter off with the course absorbed that's

1301
02:01:57,459 --> 02:02:01,077
like the Damaceous earth, uh, something that's more porous because all the kitty

1302
02:02:01,077 --> 02:02:05,259
litter does is get a little bit on the outside of it doesn't really absorb it. We

1303
02:02:05,259 --> 02:02:06,039
all call it kitty litter.

1304
02:02:09,025 --> 02:02:12,095
Um, some of my other stuff for the of course the 3rd Bay project and the 111, which

1305
02:02:12,095 --> 02:02:18,027
we've all covered, um, but I just want to add in that we are going to be rolling

1306
02:02:18,027 --> 02:02:24,569
right into, um, getting our conductive charging started. Pretty close to after the

1307
02:02:24,569 --> 02:02:30,000
3rd bay is finished, so we're gonna be pretty busy in the yard again uh this year,

1308
02:02:30,025 --> 02:02:33,085
cause after that, it's gonna be some replacement of concrete, but that's for, that's

1309
02:02:33,085 --> 02:02:39,049
for a later meeting. Good question for you. When are we gonna get our next electric

1310
02:02:39,049 --> 02:02:42,779
bus? Um, I think Jamie mentioned

1311
02:02:44,819 --> 02:02:47,229
maybe towards the end she's saying towards the end of this month. I'm going, no,

1312
02:02:47,031 --> 02:02:54,229
not yet. I'm not ready. They said late late this month early next month, 6022. It's

1313
02:02:54,229 --> 02:02:58,043
already popped up on our little screen that we can monitor the buses. I kept getting

1314
02:02:58,043 --> 02:03:03,279
these notices about about this vehicle and I'm like going. Is not ours isn't going

1315
02:03:03,279 --> 02:03:07,064
anywhere. What's to keep popping? But it was 6:02 popping up. I'm just excited that

1316
02:03:07,064 --> 02:03:09,439
we can go from bus to bus and

1317
02:03:12,002 --> 02:03:14,091
online in May. So we'll have our third

1318
02:03:16,529 --> 02:03:20,000
begin. And we have some improvements on on the ones going forward from the one we

1319
02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:25,006
have now. So, but 601's been doing great. It's been out on the road and performing

1320
02:03:25,006 --> 02:03:32,779
well, so very happy there. And just on staff update, we still have the janitor and

1321
02:03:33,859 --> 02:03:39,729
One more maintenance cleaner position open at this time. Sorry to rush the reports.

1322
02:03:40,043 --> 02:03:43,091
Great information. A lot of good work coming. Does that, that concludes the reports?

1323
02:03:43,097 --> 02:03:49,064
Yes, I got a real fast. Yeah. How did that bus, how did that bus perform in the snow

1324
02:03:49,064 --> 02:03:55,052
and cold weather? It usually doesn't go out in the snow. We haven't been able to

1325
02:03:55,052 --> 02:03:59,879
put it out in the snow. We were gonna put it out another day, but, uh, but with the

1326
02:03:59,879 --> 02:04:04,087
cold temperature, sometimes it takes too long to do the pre-warming. It wasn't ready

1327
02:04:04,087 --> 02:04:10,459
by the time the driver came in. Our doesn't have the diesel, so it doesn't have the

1328
02:04:10,459 --> 02:04:15,006
preheater, but we do have a preconditioning that we can do on the vehicle ahead of

1329
02:04:15,006 --> 02:04:20,079
time. Um, I think we just have to get more comfortable in what's called driving it

1330
02:04:20,079 --> 02:04:26,189
in turtle mode. The turtle mode will shut off after a little while if it's been preconditioned

1331
02:04:26,189 --> 02:04:31,549
up to a certain time. You can't drive it past 45 miles an hour. But generally, from

1332
02:04:31,549 --> 02:04:35,066
the time they get from here to the park and ride and then start off on their next

1333
02:04:35,066 --> 02:04:40,075
route, it'll come out of turtle mode. It'll finish its warm up, so to speak. So that's

1334
02:04:40,075 --> 02:04:44,043
still a little bit of a learning curve there, but we will have a diesel preheater

1335
02:04:44,043 --> 02:04:52,002
in the next vehicles, which will help warm it up and keep it warmer. En route,

1336
02:04:52,569 --> 02:04:56,069
especially with the heating, we all know that really drains a lot with an electric

1337
02:04:56,069 --> 02:05:01,033
vehicle, and so we and better batteries, so we should get the better range what we're

1338
02:05:01,033 --> 02:05:08,439
getting now. Actually during the winter. OK. Thanks, Rick.

1339
02:05:08,066 --> 02:05:12,419
Um, on to public comment. I believe we have one more public comment period. Sorry

1340
02:05:12,419 --> 02:05:17,001
we're a little late. Is there anyone with the public? No, no, no public online, I

1341
02:05:17,001 --> 02:05:21,979
don't think. Anyone that's online, you can hit the raise hand button if you'd like

1342
02:05:21,979 --> 02:05:25,079
to make a public comment or if you're on the phone, 9 to raise your hand.

1343
02:05:29,006 --> 02:05:35,012
OK, I will close public comment and next month we'll see you in April. See the tag

1344
02:05:35,012 --> 02:05:37,319
and Linda in March, of course, can't forget,

1345
02:05:39,529 --> 02:05:43,959
and uh we'll be back with our, our regular program with our new chair John Noak in

1346
02:05:43,959 --> 02:05:46,064
April. So I'm sure we'll be on time in April that we're adjourned. Thanks everybody.