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Welcome to the uh September 3rd edition
of the Jericho Select Board meeting. I

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want to start by welcoming Laura Durham
who is our new town administrator. Um

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for those of you paying attention, Paula
is still with us. Paula is going back to

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her old role of assistant town
administrator and we do thank her for

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her time even though we did that last
meeting. Worth calling out again.

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In order to make our meetings more
efficient, we are limiting public

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comment to the beginning of the meeting.
The public to be heard section.

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Select board meetings are in the public,
not of the public. Please do not use the

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chat on Zoom for anything other than
technical issues. Please be respectful

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and please keep public comments to 3
minutes or less. And then one note for

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um for Donna for the minutes since we
have two Lauras um in the minutes you

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can just refer to them as Laura D and
Laura C. I think that will work going

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forward.
With that said, is there any public to

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be heard?

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And with that, we'll move on to our
first agenda, which is to appoint

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Nicholas near Jesse to the mobs farm
committee with a term expiring in 2029.

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Do you want to just give us a little
chat about what uh you're welcome to

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come up or you're welcome to talk from
there. Whatever works better for you.

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» Okay, I'll talk from here I guess. Um so
uh moved to Jericho in 2023 from Milton,

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originally from Franklin County. Uh just
love Mobs period as a resource. uh walk

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my dogs there pretty much every day of
the week. Trying to think of how to be

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of any kind of service to the community
and uh kind of flipping that uh sense of

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uh you know pull towards mobs and just
thinking that if one way that I could at

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least contribute to maintaining what it
already is. So that's kind of me. I'm a

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psychotherapist. I work in South
Burlington as well as home um private

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practice formerly a lot of agencies and
hospital settings and that kind of thing

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services. So yeah, happy to answer any
questions but just generally motivated

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to uh join the committee

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questions from the board.
>> We can make a motion if we're ready.

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» Welcome.
>> Thank you. Yeah, thanks for agreeing to

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serve and uh we'll we'll [clears throat]
see how your vote goes here.

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» Well, I'd like to make a motion to
appoint Nicholas near Jesse to the Mobs

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Farm Committee with a term expiring in
2029.

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» I will second that.
>> All those in favor say I.

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» I.
>> Welcome. Thank you.

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» Congratulations.
>> Congratulations.

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» Congratulations, Pete. You got another
member. [laughter]

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» Yeah.
>> Thank you. Disrespect to the town.

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» What are you riding? What's your bike?
>> Uh, it's Roder today.

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» Okay, nice.
>> Enjoy.

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» Thank you.
>> Thanks.

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» Thank you.
>> Uh, next on the agenda is to review and

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consider approval of the letter to
residents regarding unregistered dogs.

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I did read it. I'm personally okay with
it since it's coming from me. What do

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you all think? Did you have any updates
to it?

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» I think it was fine, but uh, Claudine
also looked at it too, I'm assuming. are

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legal like did we need to have legal
counsel look at it or no

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» I don't
>> no I think it's a pretty standard we

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said same letter we send every time
>> great fabulous

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» yeah
I make a motion

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» well thank official
>> okay uh I make motion to approve the

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letter to residents regarding
unregistered dogs

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» I second the motion
>> all those in favor say I Hi. And if you

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have the letter handy, I can sign it.

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» Uh, next is review and consider approval
of the errors and omissions from the

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listers. Lori, I think Lori is on.
>> Yeah. Hi, Lori.

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» Oh, we can't hear you, Lori. There we
go. Did I unmute?

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» So, this this one is on a um we this
year when we were doing the reappraisal,

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we went through the state pays a per
parcel payment to the town and they

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require us to put contiguous parcels
together to combine them. And during the

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reappraisal, we also reset up a
commercial database. So, this is the

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dentist office over off of Raceway. And
when it got combined, the one lot that

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got combined with the other, they never
inactivated that account. So the

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gentleman got a tax bill for one lot
twice

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because it was already combined. So he
got two tax bills. One of them he

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shouldn't have gotten. So that's what
this is for is to wipe that tax bill

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away because it's already on the other
law.

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So the first the first tax bill that he
got the correct one that had the right

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value that included both.
>> Yes, it did. Yes. Okay. From the

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commercial database and then he also got
a got one for the law land of the land

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behind the dentist office um which
should have been inactivated.

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» Okay.

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» Questions from the board?
>> Nope.

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Almost
[clears throat] done.

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» No, it's a short one today. Uh,
>> do we have to state like the location or

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anything in the motion?
>> Uh, it was I can give you that. It was

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Raceway 22 Raceway and 26 Raceway.
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Where is it? I make a I make a motion to
approve the error and emissions for uh

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22 and 26 Race Ray Road from the
listers.

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» That works.
>> Close enough.

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» I will second that.
>> All those in favor say I.

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» I.
>> Thanks.

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» Thanks, Lori.
Next is review and consider approval of

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the letter to Nemer to make Paula Olind
the new

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» I didn't understand this word the cloud
administrator

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» what does cloud mean

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» you work you work in a cloud all day
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» is that is that what they mean
>> but what is what are the

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» like literally like to log in and
>> giving her access I think giving her

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access to the numerous database on. I
don't know if Okay.

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» resource.
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» So, it's just it's literally just a
login.

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» It's the administrative log for the the
attempt.

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» Should I know what Nimmerich is?
>> Nimrich is the company that we that we

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contracted with to do all of our
reappraisals.

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» Yeah. Oh, gotcha. I I I'm fine with
this, but I would also say we should

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probably go through and do a quick audit
of like is there anyone else who has

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access to anything town related then
that shouldn't you know what I mean? If

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so, what I'm bringing here is Linda had
cloud-based program access incorrectly

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and she looks like she still had that
cloud-based access. So, are there any

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other things where it's like
>> she had it correctly but then when she

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» left the job did she still have access?
>> Exactly. like at work when we offboard

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somebody there's like a whole process
right make sure they're remove you know

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it has their thing whatever so I wonder
if we need to

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» have a little do
>> we can confirm with

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» yeah and and but but
>> other than nimick like other like other

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like other
>> and also maybe just come up with a

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little document that says hey so and so
leaves let's make sure they're removed

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from all these things

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» anyway I'm I'm fine with
Do we need a motion for that?

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» Anyone have any other questions?

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» I make a motion to approve the letter to
NEMRC to make Paul Holstein our new

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cloud administrator.
>> I will second that.

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» All those in favor say I.
>> I.

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» I.
[laughter]

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» No. No. Select board updates.
>> Update.

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» Uh let's start with um we'll start we'll
start with you, Chris. We'll start there

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and we'll work our way this way.
>> Okay. I have a bunch.

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» A bunch too.
>> Missed a meeting.

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» Okay. So, Jericho.
>> What's he saying?

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» Sorry. Go ahead.
>> The one guy without an email.

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[laughter]
>> We should have a little thread just

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illegal, but it's not secure. It's not
secure. [laughter]

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Okay. Jargo Town Library um building
project first. Uh we are preparing bid

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documents and expect those to go out
late October or early November aiming

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towards spring construction. Um
I've reviewed as part of that process

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civil engineering plans, structural
plans, and architectural plans.

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There are minor revisions to me on all
of those. Um,

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and there's a bid narrative package or
bid package narrative component which

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I've reviewed and there are revisions
coming with that. I've spoken to the

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local roofing contractor Jericho roofing
who is just to confirm that they are in

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fact still on board to donate the
roofing and they are standing seam metal

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roof. They will provide all new roof
sheathing um vented ridge cap.

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» They're going to reshath it too.
>> Wow.

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» So um there's three local guys who own
the business or own the business. Um,

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» yep.
>> Anyway, I don't have their names in

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front of me, but
>> I know two of their names. I don't know

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who
>> Yeah. So, um, anyway, it was very nice.

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uh, I'm going to review the plans, the
architectural plans with the library

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board of trustees soon, just to let them
know. They've the new chair has been

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copied on them, but I just want to get
in front of them and run through it with

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them. Um
and then the architects s are suggesting

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that we have some hazardous material
testing done of the library

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uh prior to construction.
It's not necessary, but they're

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suggesting it because if there is and
they don't think that there's likely to

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be anything, but if there is something
and you know about ahead of time, it's

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not a change order and a surprise add to
the cost. Um, so there's a firm in

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Wilston. So, I don't know if we seems
like a good idea to me. But, um,

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» what do you think that would be like
like look like for for digging like

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» No, it's more like in the building.
>> It's more like in the building like lead

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paint would be a sort of obvious one.
>> Yeah. You're guaranteed. There's no

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point testing them for that. And uh
sometimes if there's depending on what

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the flooring like old flooring products
in bathrooms can have

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» insulation and stuff or
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somewhere um
>> yeah that makes sense.

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» Can we not do we not have to deal with
that paint?

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» Can we not have to deal with it?
>> The way lead paint works is

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» you have to have it uh encapsulated.
>> Yeah. Yeah. There's very specific

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requirements that you have to do in
order to do any work on a

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» it depends on what
>> basically your contractor has to be

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certified to work with
>> but don't you have to like put it into a

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big bag and scrape it all off and
>> that's part but the people you hire need

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to be certified to do that
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it done I think is probably a good idea
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» I mean they should as long as they're
not testing for lead paint I mean you

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just have to assume that it has it.
>> It probably need to assume

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» there's no way to the only way you can
like you'd have to like you have to do

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what's it's called like negative testing
like you have to come and like do this

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very very thorough thing otherwise you
have to assume that it has you have to

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even if you built a wall in the middle
of that thing and you painted it

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» it's considered lead paint unless you
get a certification so you building

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» Yeah.
>> Yeah. and because it most certainly has

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it.
>> Right. Right. Yeah.

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» Okay. I will reach out to them and talk
to them about it.

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» And then so the new library director
search um Laura D and I and Brandon Ale

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the chair of the board of trustees are
the hiring team and we have

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uh six applicants. It's an international
pool um of applicants. Uh and we will

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we're preparing for the interviews and
we'll be doing the interviews very soon

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I would think. Um
so yeah we've got a list of questions

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from the library that they used for the
previous interviews and we will you know

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probably use those as the basis for
interviews we do now. Um so yeah that

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will happen soon. Um
so then on to [clears throat] the

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Packard Road property. Uh Justin Willis
has been chipping away at this very

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steadily um which is really great. He
has reviewed uh the location of the

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water lines from Champlne Water District
and um has confirmed the setbacks that

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they need for that. It pushes the
building back a little bit but it still

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works.
Um he has requested and received the

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final 2018 storm water plans from
Watershed Consulting and he's imported

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that into his drawings
and he's met with an analyst from the

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state drinking water and groundwater
protection division to review the site

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and our plans and that consultant had no
concerns.

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Um and then just today he sent me
further updates.

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he is proposing that we use a septic
design that works for the four

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bedroomedroom two two-bedroom duplexes
um or

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a duplex with two two bedroom
>> total four bedrooms

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» total four bedrooms yes
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which works with the a mount system a
typical mount traditional mount system

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on the site he said if we really wanted
to push the capacity we could do a more

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expensive system, but in my opinion, if
we're trying to do affordable housing, I

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think we would probably not want to do
that. Um, which is how he what he

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thinks. Also,
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he's going to do a final review with the
watershed management division

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of the proposal, and he thinks they
could probably do it with a through a

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desktop review, but if not, um,
[clears throat]

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he would meet him on the site and I
could join him for that. Um,

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[clears throat]
So he thinks we're we are essentially

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probably ready to go with this property.
He he is suggesting at this point that

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we have a title search done by the town
attorney just to make sure that there's

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no nothing in the history of this
property that would prevent

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» moving forward
>> moving forward. So I think we should

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probably do that. Um,
and he is uh willing, he said he hasn't

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put a lot of time into this yet, which I
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he said he's if if we are in fact moving
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would, you know, either do this proono
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whenever you see him next, be sure to
thank him for who?

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» Justin.
>> Yeah. Thank him for all of this work

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because it's really um it's really moved
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» and he's prepared
>> which this is moving along. We we

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probably need to have a warned
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mean? Like where we're talking about it
and not just an update so somebody

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interested would see it on the agenda
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» and we haven't yet spent any money on
it. Um Right. But just in general the

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fact we're getting to a title search
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» and maybe I don't know, Peter. Do you
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» Um
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Chris was done talking, I was going to
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going to actually put a house on this?
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» Like what what individual is?
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» Like is it are we going to sell the
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sale, right? or is the JCDC going to
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» Yeah, I guess we can
>> put something to think about.

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» Put on the agenda.
>> Put it on an agenda and then have that

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conversation about what's the plan.
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» I
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» Personally, I wouldn't necessarily care
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the priority should be affordable
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» Oh, 100%. 100%.
>> Whatever the best path to get that

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» Yeah.
>> is would be fine with me. Yeah.

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» Um, but this path
>> might be Habitat actually.

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» Well, it might be. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Which would also be It just feels like

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the type of thing that the JC not that I
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just kind of feels like what we're at
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» Yeah. What we've done to date is sort of
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>> it could actually move forward.

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» The digital is like why can't we develop
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it's looking like oh wait we can. Yes.
You've done some like is this actually

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possible? Seems clearly heading like yes
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make a plan.
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>> so maybe the next step would be to Would

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you be willing to come to our next
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» When's the next meeting? It's after It's
after Oh, we're not doing one in

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September.
>> Oh, wait. No, September. What are we

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doing?
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meeting. So we could put on the agenda
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» What is the date? Uh, it' be the 24th.
>> I'm out of town.

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» All right. You don't need to cancel
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» There you go. Yeah. We got a house to
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» You have to build.
>> Why don't I change our town? Get on the

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vote, please.
>> Uh, you could I mean, you could ask

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Justin.
>> Yeah, maybe we'll just add it to the

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next select board meeting and then that
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people can
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But no, that's really good progress.
>> That's Yeah. And he even did a

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preliminary site plan that shows where
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would be and the setbacks.
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» Yes. I think he's underelling himself,
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uh I did the farmers market last week
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» which was nice. It was, you know,
relatively low-key. uh chatted with

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Trevor Squirrel for a while. Um chat
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the Riverside project and what that was
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so that was good. Um,
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Christian Shaheen about this, and I I I

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think that the best strategy for us is
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» Well, to make a list of
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assign dates to those,
>> right? so that it becomes something that

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actually gets done and then figure out
how to help them do the work.

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» I did mention to the the meeting that
you couldn't make it last time we

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appointed a new person and one of the
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» we're probably going to be sending him a
little more work. Are you comfortable

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with that?
>> He seemed okay with it. So

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» yes, that's excellent. So and you know
Chris Shaheen so we can decide how how

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to best help them. he suggested you know
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um but if we can't manage it with
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you know help from the PC or anyway I
don't know what the answer is but I

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think the starting point is to say these
are the projects we want you to take on

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this is the sequence these are the dates
we will help you do it

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okay that's it for five updates.
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» uh yeah, sorry. Go ahead. Um,
in no particular order, um, we have

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talked a little bit about the 5% and 10%
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that finalized because
um, we need to have people need to

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understand that before Tommy reimagine
when public questions are a possibility

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and the time to explain that to folks or
a logical time is this open house on

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October 17th.
>> So, I'd like to try to get that

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formalized by the board before the 17th
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next meeting or the meeting after for us
to go through it, read it, talk about

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it, decide. Yep, that's our rule. Um,
and I think the biggest and there's the

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piece of just understanding the what the
5% statute means and then what the we

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need to clean up the 10% rule, the 10%
local Jericho policy. We need to either

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kill it completely or restate it in a
way that's legal. Um, so we need to take

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action around that one way or another
>> because of what you were saying last

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meeting about the way it was that
>> the way of is written isn't really

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» isn't really legal.
>> Yeah.

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» Um, did the TMR group
>> have any further thoughts after our

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meeting with them about
they had a different reading on it than

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» that was the DEI group.
>> Oh.

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» Oh, you mean who came in and talked to
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I'm pretty convinced that they
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» right okay
>> the the situation but at the end which I

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think they kind of at the end it was Sue
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T I can't think of
>> I can't think of his name

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» um but I think at the end they just sort
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people are confused we see you guys to
make it clear what the rules are and we

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want the rules to be as accessible as
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» I think that that is
>> lowering the threshold where possible I

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think is kind of the intent
>> yeah so the so the big pieces are

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restating,
deciding what we want to say about the

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10% rule, either killing it off or
writing it in a way that's lines up with

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statute.
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is there some threshold below 5%
where we are willing to put something

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onto a town meeting day agenda to be
discussed refined and made into statute

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made into a Australian ballot
>> and voted on at that meeting. You mean

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» voting on the language to then put on
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» Right. So the very quick version for
Chris and Amy is that if someone walks

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in with so the only way to get a public
question onto the we vote everything by

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Australian ballot.
>> If someone walks in here with 5% of the

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town signing a petition that language is
already defined and so it just goes to

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Australian ballot. There's no need to
talk about it in a town meeting day sort

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of way.
The only way that something can get into

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a town meeting day, big group, full town
discussion is if we put it on the agenda

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for
that budget review day

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and so only we can do that because if
somebody petitions us, it's a done deal

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and the language is already finalized.
We can't adjust the language. But if we

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put something, for example, there was
some talk last year that someone's going

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to be coming to us with the Palestinian
referendum or and which never happened,

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but that would have been something that
we could have put onto the public

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questions discussion as a topic to be
debated. We would debate it. We would

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change this word to that word and adjust
this and amend that and then finalize

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that language in that meeting. And then
that final language would then go to the

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Australian ballot. Yeah.
>> The only way for that process to happen

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is if we put something on
the warning for the public questions

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budget review meeting.
>> What we talked about when just the three

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of us were here was or maybe I I
whatever I brought it up is we could

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have a lower bar. So if it 5% is I think
around 250 people. if we said we don't

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want to be any we don't want to say oh
just come to us and put something on

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there and we'll and we'll put it in
front of the whole town it's important

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to you it's important to us and so that
someone walks in with some whack job

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thing and now we're caught but so we
were talking about is there some bar

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that we feel like is enough
people that we feel comfortable saying

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yep we'll talk about that we'll talk
about that and adjust the language and

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if you can if people show up at the
budget review meeting the public

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questions portion and debate it and come
up with language and then approve a vote

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to put that language on the Australian
ballot, then we'll do it. And the number

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that I threw out when we when it was
just three of us was if we have like a

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100 signatures. So if someone gets a
hundred senators in town about we want

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to discuss as a town putting the
Palestinian issue into a conversation

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have a debate come up with final
language and then vote that language yes

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or no to be allowed on the Australian
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» because you're thinking that 250 is a
high bar.

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» If they hit 250, we're out of it
legally. It's the like.

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» But the reason you're suggesting this at
all is that you think that might be 250

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is a lot of signatures to get.
>> No, because if they get 250,

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we're looking for a way for our for the
town of Jericho to debate issues to

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debate like referendums and ideas and
things that are important to the town

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and have that end up on the Australian
ballot. If someone gets a petition and

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gets 250 sign that I'm making that
number up people on the on YouTube,

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that's it's like 227 or something. But
if someone reaches that 5% there's no

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discussion. There's no town meeting
discussion. There's no the language has

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been finalized. It goes directly to
Australian ballot. The question is how

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do we get something how does someone get
something into a townwide persontoperson

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conversation which then eventually ends
up in the Australian ballot. And what um

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Gay said to me last year, she said that
she was saying she didn't say it in a

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judgmental way but she said you guys
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That should have been a public question.
How should should the town How should

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the town How should the town of Jericho
should the town and how should we fund

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this $200,000 request from the Jericho
town library? That would be a public

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question that we could all debate.
>> Get to the language of and then put that

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final language on the Australian ballot
because we were all like, "We don't know

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what to do." And she's like, "You guys
were not sure what to do." And that

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would have been a thing you could have
said in town, hey, what do you want to

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do? How do you want to phrase this
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the Australian ballot.
>> My question is, do we feel like the

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people that show up, the quantity of
people that show up are representative

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sample?
>> Yeah.

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» The Yes, that's true. But what I always
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for 150 years, those people made all the
decisions 100% with no input from

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anybody else. that group of people,
which as someone in the meeting that I

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was in recently said are all the weird
people who like enjoy this silly town

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stuff and are overly involved in all
this,

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all they can do is decide what goes on
the Australian ballot. So if my feeling

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is that like if a 100 people want some
topic to be discussed and voted on the

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Australian ballot, that's enough for me
personally be like, "Yep, we'll have

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that discussion in a public questions
meeting." And then that final language,

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if that body approves it, will then go
to the Australian ballot, which the

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whole town can vote on.
>> That the public question would be

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debated at the budget.
>> At the budget review,

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» budget review. Yeah.
>> Yep. Yeah. It would be debated and

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» the threshold. I mean, I guess we have
to talk about it on the agenda, but it

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should be the threshold should be budget
related. Like your example of the

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Palestinian question, it it doesn't
relate to our budget. So,

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» right.
don't have to replace don't have to

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relate to the budget.
>> Should should our threshold be if it's

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budget related if it's if it's just
something that's just a social issue?

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» Well, if it's budget related, someone
can just stand up to the meeting and

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say, "I want to I'd like to I'd like to
I'd like to make an amendment." One

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person can stand up and make an
amendment to the budget and take out

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$20,000 to whatever.
>> Yeah.

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» But the people at the meeting could
decide not to put it on the ballot.

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Yeah, that's I was going to make that
point on your on your point about the

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library. Like we had already decided
like just using that because it's our

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most recent example.
>> Let's say we had said instead of saying

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» we're going to send this to the ballot,
we're going to have the voters decide on

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the library repair.
>> It sounds like what Gay is saying

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00:30:35,679 --> 00:30:43,600
instead of doing that, we should have
said let's consider putting this on the

420
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:49,360
ballot and we'll bring it to that that
meeting and talk about it. And so if

421
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:53,039
they had said
not to put it on the ballot Yeah. like

422
00:30:51,679 --> 00:30:56,720
it's hard for me to imagine. So we would
have just said, "Okay, then we're just

423
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,520
doing it. We're just doing the 200,000."
>> No, we would have said

424
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,039
» or we're not doing it at all.
>> We're not doing it at all.

425
00:31:00,159 --> 00:31:05,279
» We're not doing either. Okay.
>> We would have said no.

426
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:08,240
Sorry. The the vote the the people at
town meeting decided they're not going

427
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,600
to fund that.
>> Which is scary.

428
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:16,080
» Yeah. But again, we're
>> especially if it's something that we the

429
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:20,399
five of us agreed well,
>> but we were we were we were

430
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:23,919
» the board agreed the board voted in
favor of doing it,

431
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:28,000
» but the board was very we were all over
the place what to do with that and we

432
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:31,919
were not we were uncomfortable. I mean,
I personally was like, how do I say no?

433
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:35,760
If I say no, we're shutting down the
library forever. that I might think

434
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:41,360
that's the right thing to do personally,
but that's that's like a huge issue and

435
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:46,080
how do I not say yes? But so I feel like
we were very uncomfortable with how that

436
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:50,240
all played out and
>> but that's a really interesting example

437
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:55,039
because at the meeting there were a lot
of loud voices opposed to it and at the

438
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,519
vote it was overwhelmingly that's a
really good point.

439
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,159
» Yeah, that's a really good point about
the representation.

440
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:05,440
» The representation at these meetings.
Yeah, that that's a little bit in my

441
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:10,000
opinion that's democracy. And I think
that if that language had been on if

442
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:13,679
that had been a public question, the
library would have had a lot of people

443
00:32:11,919 --> 00:32:16,000
there.
I think it would have I think if that

444
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:20,320
was a public question, it would have
gone through more easily. There would

445
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:24,080
have been much le
to positive comments at that meeting

446
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,480
would have been massively skewed the
other way.

447
00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:31,039
» I don't know. They had a lot of people
that they that that came to that meeting

448
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:34,320
that I've never seen at a meeting before
>> that were there for that. I think they

449
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:39,440
packed it pretty well.
>> I think we also, speaking for myself, I

450
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:45,200
think that we someone I said this a
while ago. Um we are the executive

451
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:52,480
branch of the town government and the
people are the legislative branch. And I

452
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:57,760
feel like we need to be not so cautious
and afraid of asking the legislative

453
00:32:55,679 --> 00:33:04,640
branch to do things and approve things
that if that if the town if someone

454
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:09,919
packs the the the packs the room on
something and it doesn't make it onto

455
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:15,039
the ballot then that's tomorrow. I mean,
like I said, like those people, the the

456
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:18,720
few people who show up used to run town
meeting, used to make all the decisions,

457
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:27,320
used to add money to the budget, used to
defund stuff on the fly, and nobody else

458
00:33:22,159 --> 00:33:27,320
had any input at all. So, we are already

459
00:33:27,679 --> 00:33:34,960
» lessening the power of that group. But I
feel like we if we don't give that group

460
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:39,600
» some real genuine input, then we're just
making that meeting. We've kind of

461
00:33:37,679 --> 00:33:45,120
neutered town meeting day and made and
made that tmri just a fake meeting.

462
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:49,039
» It's
a discussion. I Yeah, I guess we should

463
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:53,279
have an agenda item about it because
there's

464
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:56,320
I don't agree. I I I hear what you're
saying and I know that person told you

465
00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:00,399
about the legislative body. I think the
point of moving to Australian ballot was

466
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:07,760
because that small group of people who
had time to show up on a Tuesday morning

467
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:11,599
» had that time and other people who don't
were essentially silent. Sure, if there

468
00:34:09,919 --> 00:34:14,639
was something important enough, they
could have made arrangements and gotten

469
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:19,119
there. But I thought that I kind of
think of that as the whole point of

470
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:24,480
like, you know, you have 150 people
passing the budget. Well, and it's it

471
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:28,960
it'd be similar with the library thing
or a public question. So, like we're

472
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:33,440
going to decide we're gonna let let's
say there's 190 people that go there.

473
00:34:30,879 --> 00:34:39,919
So, if a 100 people vote one way or the
other, it decides if something

474
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:45,280
disappears from the ballot from the
other 2,000 people's ability to say yes

475
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:49,800
or no. I think I don't agree with that.
190 people is a whole lot more than

476
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,800
five.

477
00:34:49,839 --> 00:34:55,359
» Right now we're the ones
>> who decide that. [sighs]

478
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,880
» Yeah.
>> So now it's just free people can now

479
00:34:57,839 --> 00:35:02,640
kill the town library.
>> But if we had decided it belongs on the

480
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,119
ballot,
>> right? I I feel like I feel like the

481
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,640
negative,
>> right? So So to have a hundred people

482
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:15,200
say no, it doesn't belong in the ballot
feels feels wrong.

483
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:19,280
» If who had
I hear what you're saying,

484
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:25,760
» but you're saying 100 people is more
than five. Let's say the five of us vote

485
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:31,920
on what the Palestinian thing we think
it belongs on the ballot.

486
00:35:27,839 --> 00:35:36,800
» 100 people out of the 190 decide no, it
doesn't. It just disappears from the so

487
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:41,040
you took that you took that choice from
the other 2,000 people. But we can we

488
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:44,320
can it to you the pal take it away from
the library which is kind of a loaded

489
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:47,200
thing just to the Palestinian.
>> If we all felt like the Palestinian

490
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,160
thing is really important to this town
and we feel like it's important

491
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,560
politically and d we can just put stuff
on the ballot.

492
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:57,119
» Right. But what you're proposing is we
let them take it off.

493
00:35:54,000 --> 00:36:01,599
» No. We can No. No. If we think
something's important, the five of us,

494
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:04,720
we can put whatever we want on the
Australian ballot.

495
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:06,800
» Right. If somebody walks in the door,
>> right,

496
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:10,720
» and has something they feel is important
and they've got a hundred signatures in

497
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:15,920
this fictitious situation and we're not
really one way or the other on it,

498
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:20,240
» then we they've got a 100 signatures,
it's important to them, it's not super

499
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:23,839
important to us. They they can bring it
to the full town and the full town can

500
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:27,599
decide what the final language will be
on the ballot and whether it goes on the

501
00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:31,520
ballot or not. But for example, the DEI
committee just came to the just came to

502
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:34,320
the three of you and said, "Hey, what's
in the ballot?" and you said, "Yep, that

503
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,079
makes sense. Let's put on the ball,
right?"

504
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:39,200
» And you can still do that. We can still
do that,

505
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:43,839
» right? But but
so going back to the library thing, you

506
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:50,240
said that Gay thought that we should
have brought that to those people. So

507
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:54,320
what exactly was she looking?
We have not decided. Well, you made that

508
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:58,160
as a passing comment that that how the
how the library thing was laid out, how

509
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:02,960
the decision was made about
>> $50,000 per year versus $200,000 all at

510
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,359
once and kind of all that stuff. She
said

511
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:08,720
» that should have been and this is
probably shouldn't quote her in public

512
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,040
like yeah probably intend but she was
just like that should have been a public

513
00:37:09,839 --> 00:37:16,200
question that should have been debated
by more than just the board,

514
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,200
» right?

515
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:21,359
» But there's no scenario where she's
lobbying. I I know we're using this

516
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:26,160
example, but it's really important
because

517
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:30,880
» I'm not sure I'm getting it.
>> So, if we did that, we brought it

518
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:34,160
forward.
What exactly is she looking for us to

519
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:39,119
bring? What should we have done? Should
we have said, should this go to the

520
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:42,480
ballot or should this just vote at all
or you know what I mean?

521
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,560
» I think what she meant was h
>> how was it paid?

522
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,440
» How is it structured?
>> 50 a year for

523
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:50,960
» $20,000 up front. Was it going to be a
year before a year or is it

524
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:54,079
» you know I don't I don't know this is a
year ago and I don't remember.

525
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:59,359
» So but that so that was one we decided
we decided to put that on the ballot.

526
00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:03,280
And so what you're saying is
>> if we hadn't decided for for a different

527
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,920
one for the Palestinian one we're saying
blah blah blah.

528
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,400
» We say it's not important to us. Doesn't
feel like it's something we care about.

529
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,359
We're not going to put on the ballot.
But if someone gets 100 signatures

530
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,480
» then we
>> now we'll allow the the meeting people

531
00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:18,640
to debate it.
>> Okay. And if it if you can get it past

532
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:22,400
those 190 people, then it will get on
the Australian ballot will vote.

533
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:26,480
» Okay, so there's that scenario. But walk
me through if we had said yes.

534
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,079
» Yep. We're putting the Palestinian
language on the ballot.

535
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,839
» Yep.
>> Is that up for debate?

536
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,599
» No.
>> Okay.

537
00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:35,920
» Because we have because we're in charge.
>> Well, I think then that

538
00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:40,640
» only So only when we say no
>> are we suggesting a 100 votes gets

539
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:44,400
brings it to that meeting to be
discussed. I guess the I guess the

540
00:38:41,839 --> 00:38:48,560
procedure might be if you want the rule
to be that everyone in car in in town

541
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:53,440
has to have a pink car, come to us at a
meeting, ask us to put it in the ballot

542
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:59,599
and if we say yes, then you're all set.
If we say no now, no. But if you get a

543
00:38:57,359 --> 00:39:03,760
100 signatures, then we'll make it a
public question that will be debated by

544
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:07,280
the town and the out the final language
will come out of that meeting and get

545
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:12,160
voted up or down and then that language
will go on the Australian ballot. Even

546
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:15,200
though we think it's a stupid rule, if a
hundred of you think it's important to

547
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:19,359
have pink cars,
>> then we'll bring it

548
00:39:17,359 --> 00:39:22,960
we'll take it from our room to a room
full of everybody Yeah.

549
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,920
» who can show up and discuss it. And if
those people all amend it and find

550
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:29,680
language that they all agree on or
enough of them agree on, then it goes to

551
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,760
Australian ballot and gets voted up or
down.

552
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,960
» Are you saying you have to have 50% or
more of those people that are at town

553
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,599
meeting day then voting on that? Is that
your thought or is it like more 60% or

554
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:44,839
is it
>> No, we can budget. So

555
00:39:41,839 --> 00:39:44,839
» um

556
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:52,480
I'm for the most part other than I
>> It's just weird to only do it if the

557
00:39:49,359 --> 00:39:56,079
answer is no. I think that you
>> we're not giving them power to say

558
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:59,440
you're not putting that pink car thing
on the ballot even though you you five

559
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,320
wanted that on there. That's the dumbest
thing I've ever heard.

560
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:05,440
» I think you say it in a different way. I
think like it doesn't have to be

561
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:09,599
something that we've shot down either.
It's like if you come to town meeting

562
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,839
day reimagined with 100 signatures, you
don't have to come to us.

563
00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:14,800
» You're allowed to discuss it.
>> You can come and you can discuss

564
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:18,240
whatever you want. Well, you need you
need to bring a 100 signatures to us

565
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,000
ahead of time
>> because it needs to be on the agenda for

566
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,119
that,
>> right?

567
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,880
» Someone needs to bring a 100 signatures
to us. And if I want that in the easy

568
00:40:25,359 --> 00:40:30,560
way, like it'd be great if you guys
would just sign up for my pink car idea.

569
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:34,320
» Oh, you don't like it? Okay, no worries.
So, I I have a second way to get my my

570
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:38,240
work done. My first thing is I want you
guys to agree paint car is the way to

571
00:40:35,839 --> 00:40:42,079
go. If you all disagree, okay, that's my
first attempt. My second attempt is get

572
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:46,560
a 100 signatures and bring that to you.
Now, will you listen to me? I think

573
00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:48,560
» well we still disagree but we'll discuss
it.

574
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:53,680
» But you you met her. I see. Yeah.
>> I I think you should still say it as um

575
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:57,520
we don't have to say no first. Yes. If
you come before and get it more like

576
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:01,280
that I almost want to take that out of
it entirely. Just like anybody can do

577
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:04,160
this but then we have to really well
publicize that

578
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:06,319
» because
>> and that's why

579
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:10,160
» because if they're hoping they'll say
yes and we don't give them an agenda

580
00:41:07,839 --> 00:41:12,240
item till November and then we say no
then they've only got

581
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,040
» Yeah. They've only got a minute.
Exactly.

582
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:19,760
» And that's why I want to get this
language settled so that at the open

583
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:23,440
house there can be a table about public
questions explaining how public

584
00:41:21,839 --> 00:41:26,960
questions get get
>> and if they get 250 signatures

585
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:30,560
» then we're our hands are tired.
>> So are we getting rid of the 10% section

586
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,319
all together?
>> We're proposing it. It sounds like we're

587
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:38,560
» I'm not proposing that. That's we we
need to we need to have

588
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:42,560
» we need to clean up the 10% like current
10% language is not legal. We need to

589
00:41:40,319 --> 00:41:44,960
clean it up and get it into legal
format.

590
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:49,359
» Yep.
>> The current language defines town

591
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:52,800
business versus not town business, which
are not two real things. What it is is

592
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:56,480
things the select board has the power to
do and things the people have the power

593
00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:00,480
to do.
>> Yeah.

594
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:03,440
» So, so much for our short meeting.
That's only my first item.

595
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:08,079
» Oh gosh.
So, can we So, Laura, D, and Eric, can

596
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:12,400
you guys figure out when to put that on
agenda so we can get it settled before

597
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:19,200
the 17th?
>> Is there someone in town or some person

598
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:23,920
who can help us? Not that I'm saying we
have we need it, but help us navigate

599
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:26,400
the discussion. It was quite informed on
this.

600
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:29,200
» Peter's the most informed person we got
on it, unfortunately.

601
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:35,640
» Yeah.
as a gay

602
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,640
» the LT

603
00:42:35,839 --> 00:42:40,800
» I mean I think we can do it without that
but if there is someone then

604
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:46,374
» I don't I mean
>> add more

605
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,374
he's retired [laughter]

606
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:52,960
» I can certainly lay it out
>> I'm not sure but I mean BLC BLC

607
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:56,960
» no you did a good job understanding that
whole within the power of the voters and

608
00:42:54,880 --> 00:43:01,200
that like I had no concept of that
before that so And the problem with that

609
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:05,280
is that the BLCT says you can't we can't
list the all the powers of the voters

610
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,079
all the time select board all you can do
is

611
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,800
» example
>> when someone gives you an example give

612
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,760
you something go come to us and we'll
tell you that in their power or yours.

613
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,560
» Yeah.
>> What am I signing here?

614
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:18,800
» The list of things.
>> Oh.

615
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:21,800
» Okay. The next Peter
>> um

616
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:31,040
uh open house roof. Um, Laura, I I comm
I've sent an email to all the people who

617
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:32,240
were asking to have tables at open
house.

618
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:37,040
» Okay.
>> I sent a second email to people who

619
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:40,400
didn't respond to my first email, not
naming names, but a few of them are in

620
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:44,000
this room. Um,
>> oh, I definitely didn't respond to any

621
00:43:41,839 --> 00:43:49,480
of those.
>> I read them. I didn't know I was

622
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:49,480
supposed to respond.

623
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:56,640
» The select board will be there.
>> The select board will have a table. Um,

624
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:59,599
» oh, I I I didn't realize that was a
question. I just I thought you were

625
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,160
maybe I was there. Yeah.
>> Okay. So,

626
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,280
» so those those emails went out. They're
coming back with responses which have

627
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:10,480
pretty much all been positive and like,
"Yep, we're going to do it."

628
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:16,560
» Um, Laura wrote put together Laura and S
Laura Crane and SJ put together

629
00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:20,640
um like a second communication
document

630
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:24,880
um to kind of lay out in more detail for
groups like here's what we're hoping

631
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:29,760
for. And the idea is to explain to
groups that it's not just about what do

632
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:32,560
you want, but it's about it's not just
about you getting information that you

633
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:36,720
want, but it's also you pitching
yourself to the community. Um, so you

634
00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:39,680
shouldn't be like, "Oh, we're all set in
my committee. We don't need any help."

635
00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:42,720
That's not what we're asking you for.
We're asking for you what do you what

636
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:46,319
what could what help could you use in
your committee, but also how can you

637
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:50,480
reach out and give people information
about the fact that you get money in our

638
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,359
budget and what do you do with it? that
that piece.

639
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:58,040
» Um, so there's my notes right there,
which are super super minor. Um,

640
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:04,000
» um, and we're going to start we're going
to do front porch forum posts every

641
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:08,480
three or four days starting at the
beginning of October about it. Um, I had

642
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:11,520
a question which I've gotten answered
through front porch forum. Town party is

643
00:45:10,319 --> 00:45:13,839
canceled.
>> So I don't know what that's all. Do you

644
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,800
know what that's about, Laura? Why do
you know what it is? Part

645
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:20,160
» I just saw I just saw it on front porch
forum. says because I couldn't find a

646
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:25,280
date that worked for the the board that
was setting it up. So that worked. So

647
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:31,599
» okay, that's a bummer.
>> Um TMRI committee met in January. No,

648
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:35,599
I'm sorry. Met and has chosen January
23rd as the date for the budget review

649
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:42,640
meeting and the public questions
meeting. Um we talked about I brought

650
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:47,920
back the Saturday idea to them and they
were like, "Okay, great. It's Saturday."

651
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:51,280
Um so that's settled. Um
>> the Saturday and then the

652
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,880
» Saturday
>> Saturday budget then break then

653
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,319
» yes public questions.
>> Public questions. Yep.

654
00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,480
» Cool.
>> And we need to iron out the details of

655
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:05,040
like okay public questions begin at this
time. What if the meeting goes long? How

656
00:46:03,359 --> 00:46:06,240
do we shorten the meeting to make it
tighter?

657
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:13,359
» Yeah.
>> Um etc. etc. And so related to that is I

658
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:18,480
wanted I think I I think for the TMRI
committee we as a board need to figure

659
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:22,560
out our budget schedule.
Um

660
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:26,079
has have you thought about that at all
yet Eric?

661
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:33,680
» Um
Laura and I met earlier this week um

662
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:39,599
maybe yesterday to talk about just kind
of introduce her to the budget. Um,

663
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:45,280
and I I think, you know, we kind of
agree that I think we've done a little

664
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:50,800
bit better at budget every year and yet
I still think that last year we ended up

665
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:56,400
kind of at the end kind of like we got a
lot to do. And so, you know, starting it

666
00:46:54,000 --> 00:47:03,119
sooner, but then trying to understand
from Paula like what when the like when

667
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:06,400
the numbers start coming in like some we
could start now, but if we don't have

668
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:10,800
half the numbers that we need to
understand that it's not going to be

669
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:15,200
much help. So, um,
but I do think we need to start working

670
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:21,359
budget discussions into.
So, I think I I think what we need to do

671
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:27,119
is I think we need a an agenda item for
next next meeting that says what does

672
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:32,800
the rest of the year look like as far as
budget and then maybe we from there we

673
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:37,520
um
you know I think during that agenda item

674
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:42,720
we'll talk about what's the format, how
do we want to think about it. Um, you

675
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:49,280
know, I I mentioned last year when we
started and and I mentioned to Laura and

676
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:56,240
Brian, um,
you know, I I find the transfers in and

677
00:47:52,560 --> 00:48:00,960
out to be the most confusing and scary
like right like so many years we've had

678
00:47:58,319 --> 00:48:05,359
the budget all dialed in like oh
>> 75 grand we forgot about one way or the

679
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:11,200
other like once sometimes it goes the
good way and you're like oh sweet and

680
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:16,720
other times you're like so I think if we
start there um at least focus on it

681
00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:21,280
early not that it not that it might not
change but I think anyway so just

682
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:25,040
talking about what those what those
meetings look like and how to how to get

683
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:28,079
that budget structured and ready so that
it's

684
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:32,480
you know you because you kind of want to
have a budget for them to consider for a

685
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:37,599
little while before they show up at the
budget meeting you know and it'd be nice

686
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:41,359
if if we had it out there for a few
weeks so people have time to consume it

687
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,400
and think about what questions they want
to ask and

688
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:48,240
» um
>> you know so anyway that's what I think

689
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,520
we should do you good with that
>> so next meeting we'll

690
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:57,119
» next meeting we'll have a budget
>> an agenda item about

691
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:59,760
» the rest of the rest of the year budget
>> okay

692
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:03,920
» planning should be is that good you guys
>> cool

693
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:10,640
» um in so in the so this is still under
TMRI in the name of trying to make that

694
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:19,040
meeting go better. Um, the TMRI
committee wants to have a meet wants to

695
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:22,640
have a meeting with you, Eric, and um,
maybe one other person from the board

696
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:26,559
and like one or two people from the
probably Dave and Gay, the Baron and Gay

697
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:30,880
from the TMRI committee to sort of talk
about what I think of as the lesson

698
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:36,079
plan. So, like meeting starts at 9:00
am. We want to do this first, then this,

699
00:49:34,559 --> 00:49:39,680
then this, and what's the flow going to
be and sort of what are what are some of

700
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:44,559
the hiccups that we anticipate and how
are we going to agree to deal with those

701
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:48,559
things along the way just to get the
board and the TMRI committee's ducks

702
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:51,920
sort of lined up on the same page about
what's going to happen that day.

703
00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:56,240
» They're trying to control me a little
bit better. That makes sense.

704
00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:59,040
» Uh, I I agree with that. It's a good
strategy.

705
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:05,359
» That's what they're doing, but
Um,

706
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:11,359
in more TMRI information is the
parameters for budget changes. Last year

707
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:13,359
we set it at 33 or $36,000 was the limit
of the

708
00:50:11,839 --> 00:50:15,599
» We did it based on
>> We did it based on the size of the

709
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:17,760
budget,
>> right?

710
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:21,839
» Or of the
>> proposed part of the budget,

711
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:24,160
» right? Exa Exactly. Right.
>> Right.

712
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:29,119
um
uh they've gotten a lot of feedback that

713
00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:32,559
that made people angry and made people
feel like there's no point in coming to

714
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:35,040
this. So, we need to talk I told them
that we would talk about that we would

715
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,440
talk about that about what the
parameters for the budget conversation

716
00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:42,480
are going to be.
>> Yeah.

717
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:47,640
» Um so, that's it for the TMRI stuff. Are
there any questions on those things

718
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,640
before I go to my next thing?

719
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:57,920
» You thinking you're thinking? I am
thinking um yes there was

720
00:50:55,280 --> 00:51:03,040
people who did not like that limit and
yet there were people who did not like

721
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:07,040
that the previous year so much money had
been spent on the fly or committed on

722
00:51:05,839 --> 00:51:10,640
the fly for those
>> right we were trying to balance those

723
00:51:08,319 --> 00:51:13,359
two things we we came up with those
numbers

724
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:16,960
» there has to be something I think
>> I agree what if I mean I think you

725
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:20,480
should still have something like a limit
but then it has to go to Australian

726
00:51:18,319 --> 00:51:25,520
ballot like okay yeah if you want
$100,000 to for whatever,

727
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:28,319
» but now we can we can say that. Yes. But
now it's going to be on

728
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:32,640
» we had that we had we we just had three
other we had two other numbers too.

729
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:35,359
» But yeah, it's maybe that we just I know
we had the whole whatever. I forget

730
00:51:34,319 --> 00:51:39,440
exactly what they were. But
>> so maybe we didn't hit the sweet spot

731
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:42,079
with that big hitter, but
>> Well, and they just they also just

732
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:44,880
didn't understand it. I just did I just
don't think I piece

733
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:49,359
» they thought they thought I was saying
that if the budget item was more than

734
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:51,839
33,000 we couldn't talk about it which I
don't know how they got that

735
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:56,800
» that's the other piece is that we need
to communicate all the information about

736
00:51:54,000 --> 00:52:01,200
town meeting about that discussion
before well before the discussion so

737
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:04,319
that everyone's on boards with TMRI
people as they're doing all their

738
00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:07,599
promotional stuff they can include that
information so it's not a surprise the

739
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:12,000
night of
>> Yep.

740
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:15,280
Um,
okay. So, that's it for TMRI. Nothing.

741
00:52:13,839 --> 00:52:18,800
That's We're good.
>> I'm good.

742
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:21,920
» Okay. Um, Eric, we need to schedule our
radio show.

743
00:52:19,839 --> 00:52:23,599
» Yes.
>> Be so good.

744
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,720
» I'm so excited.
>> So excited that afterward after the

745
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:30,640
meeting?
>> Yeah.

746
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:34,880
» Okay. Um, have we announced Laura Durham
on Front Punch Forum?

747
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:39,359
» No, I will do that. I
should have earlier. I didn't. I will.

748
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:41,599
» So, you got to do that. No.
You have a front account.

749
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,559
» She does.
>> Excellent.

750
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:49,359
» The first thing I text her and like I'm
sure five people had already told her,

751
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:52,911
"You're gonna you're gonna want to tap
into this. Just [laughter]

752
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:57,200
» maybe lurk on Facebook.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Maybe a couple.

753
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,680
» Don't go to Fit. Don't go to F.
>> Don't go to Yeah, but you hear the

754
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:04,160
chatter.
>> I know. Just skip it all together.

755
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:08,319
» I just just Nothing good happens at all.
>> Okay. um local options t tax we talked

756
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:12,400
about and sort of said like oh yeah
let's look into this. We want to look we

757
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:15,680
want to
>> we should decide right now if that's

758
00:53:14,319 --> 00:53:19,280
something we want to consider for this
year or not.

759
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,839
» I think we shouldn't I think we
shouldn't decide that right this second.

760
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:25,359
which put on
>> I think I'm deciding if we want to

761
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,280
decide I'm deciding if we want to put
that on the consider if we want to

762
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:31,119
consider
>> I do I'll go out and say like I would

763
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:33,760
love to warn that and and have a real
conversation about it with

764
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:37,200
» so would I
>> okay me too

765
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,760
» great you got three
>> October

766
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:43,119
» beautiful it's going to be a busy one
>> October

767
00:53:41,119 --> 00:53:45,760
» maybe like second week of October or
second uh meeting of October

768
00:53:45,359 --> 00:53:50,400
» okay
>> when we do that if it's possible to get

769
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:53,760
like how much revenue estimated
If that's like

770
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:56,559
» you got to Google it like like because
it's all Amazon like how many Amazon

771
00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:00,880
sales are like
>> you can call you can we can someone can

772
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:04,640
come I don't know if it's Laura or me or
somebody can call the tax department

773
00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:07,359
» and they can give you estimates.
>> Yeah.

774
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,200
» Yeah. Okay. That would be great to have.
>> Yeah. Exactly.

775
00:54:08,559 --> 00:54:12,160
» Right. If [clears throat] it's only
going to raise six grand upset people

776
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:16,000
that's probably
>> we're not into it.

777
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:19,040
» Yeah. Um,
and then these are, as I was going

778
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:22,240
through meetings, I said three follow-up
questions, which of course aren't

779
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:25,680
follow-ups for you because you weren't
here, but and I'm sorry, I'm guessing

780
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:30,720
you'll have no answer to these because
you shouldn't, but if you could just

781
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:37,359
kind of your radar, Bernie, um, Pocket
had asked us to talk to VR about

782
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:40,480
guidance on traffic calming.
>> Um,

783
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:46,880
» we did reach out, um, and we're waiting
to hear back. Um, so the the contact

784
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:51,839
that we have Daniel something uh is
putting us is is trying to connect us

785
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:57,680
with a regional planner. Um, so we're
waiting to hear back. So all followed up

786
00:54:54,720 --> 00:55:00,559
again I think Tuesday and got the
response that

787
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:03,520
» is a regional planner like the CCRPC
like Chitten County Regional Planning

788
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:09,119
Commission.
>> No, with V trans. So, um, this was her

789
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:14,960
contact cuz the his followup was to, um,
request to Bernie's request was for us

790
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:19,520
to reach out to VR, which we did, and
they have a regional contact.

791
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:25,040
» Vans has their own regional group. Okay.
>> But we have not connected yet.

792
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:28,720
» Okay. Awesome. Um,
Paula was going to look at all of our

793
00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:33,680
emails and figure out which ones can be
de deactivated.

794
00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:36,960
We did get a list from and we're
actually meeting with them tomorrow

795
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:39,920
morning with it. Um, so we should be
able to have

796
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:44,480
» with the tech group people. It looked
like all of them were active. That's

797
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:49,440
probably a good head start to making
sure that anyone who needs to be rolled

798
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:52,480
off to to the earlier point like all
these people if they have access to

799
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:55,119
anything else besides just to
>> it. I would be careful about thinking

800
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:58,880
that they're active because like I'm the
JCDC the Jericho

801
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,920
» community
>> corporation community develop

802
00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:05,119
corporation chair and I don't use that
email. I've gotten a couple emails and I

803
00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:08,640
ignore them and because they're because
they're proforma stuff and so I was

804
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:12,000
thinking it might be worth just sending
an email unless it's unless they can see

805
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:15,599
like no no this planning commission
chair has 8,000 emails in the last week

806
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:21,400
but if there's any that look like
they're sparse.

807
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,400
Um

808
00:56:21,839 --> 00:56:30,319
and then oh and this is file this under
super minor and no one probably cares.

809
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:35,839
Um Paul was going to look into getting
our

810
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:40,480
town website to be.gov rather than.org
because our emails are all.gov and our

811
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:43,920
website is.org.
>> Yeah. And you see like Yep. All and

812
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:47,599
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> You got it. And but once we do that,

813
00:56:45,839 --> 00:56:51,119
we'll have to change all of our
letterhead as well.

814
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:55,280
» Everything. So,
>> um, will we

815
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:59,040
I will see what more I can learn when
because I did watch I think they came up

816
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:03,520
at the last meeting and and she and I
talked about it. The current provider

817
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:07,760
for our website
>> um did it

818
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:14,559
» plus
uh it'sorg so we can have a discussion

819
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:19,520
and um I think we I was trying to figure
out if we still own the.gov. We do

820
00:57:17,119 --> 00:57:21,680
because right when you type in.gov it
goes through that

821
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,480
» right.
>> Um

822
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:31,200
» so that's part of the civic
>> that was her understanding. So weird

823
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:36,559
» like you get aorg of discussion.
>> I'd be surprised by that. Yeah.

824
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:42,960
» I don't know much about domain name
stuff to be honest. I I I just don't I

825
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:46,799
just think this is
>> I get that it's an anomaly, but it

826
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:50,160
should be pretty far down on the
priority list of things to worry about.

827
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,680
» We want consistency. We need
consistency.

828
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:56,559
» Yeah.
>> So, probably paying for two domains if

829
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,960
if one links to the other.
>> Although, you still will be.

830
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,960
» Yeah. Yeah.
>> It's just the other way.

831
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,599
» Yeah.
>> Okay. That's all I got. That's it.

832
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:08,160
» That's it.
>> Nothing. Yep.

833
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,440
» Thank you. You've been working hard.
Laura

834
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:14,559
» um
>> LC

835
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:18,799
» LC I have very little um the tech policy
I was going to work on some of the

836
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:23,440
feedback I got from last meeting and I
did not do it and I have no good excuse

837
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:29,200
other than I needed a break from the
topic [laughter] um and I was working on

838
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:34,559
other town things. How's that? Um, but I
got a email from a resident who asked

839
00:58:32,079 --> 00:58:40,960
for an update to the Jericho towns
people about the red mill and I

840
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:46,160
forwarded it to Laura D Paula, but I
didn't understand the context of the

841
00:58:42,799 --> 00:58:51,280
question if anyone has old red mill.
>> Well, I I don't mean what is the update

842
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:56,480
that we might get. I wonder if that's
related to you guys remember town

843
00:58:53,440 --> 00:59:01,040
meeting day in 23
uh where we like stopped funding for

844
00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:02,799
like there was a fiveyear funding we did
one year

845
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:07,839
» an exemption
>> yeah that's it about the big old

846
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:10,480
concrete things are still there and it
junky

847
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:16,000
» I mean there's there's three things
right exactly there's there's one thing

848
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:22,079
where the year that I ran so I started
paying more attention of course um

849
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:28,880
that's the year that We passed a
um whatever you call it a tax a tax

850
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:34,720
thing to to every every year for
whatever 10 years or 15 years we're

851
00:59:31,359 --> 00:59:38,640
going to give them $1876 or whatever
>> $100

852
00:59:36,319 --> 00:59:42,240
or whatever. There's a there's a line in
your tax

853
00:59:39,359 --> 00:59:44,319
» $18,000 $18,65,
right?

854
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:48,079
» For 1865, the year they were
incorporated or whatever, right?

855
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:51,680
» A tax. We're going to give them $18,000
a year for 10 years.

856
00:59:49,599 --> 00:59:56,000
» Yep. So So that's on everybody's tax
bill. So they they may be asking for

857
00:59:53,680 --> 01:00:01,839
that reason. Two,
we basically immediately spent all of

858
00:59:58,559 --> 01:00:06,799
that money um to work with engineering
firms to shore up the wall. and the town

859
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:12,079
was involved for reasons that are really
really really confusing. Um, and I just

860
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:15,839
don't think
I don't think anybody knew. I think I

861
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:19,680
stayed confused, but I'm not sure
anybody really understands why the

862
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:23,119
town's doing it when we don't own that
building.

863
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:25,280
» Katherine McMain does aside she
explained it to me once. I was like,

864
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,000
"What?" Like,
>> yeah, but she's explained it to me

865
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:32,079
probably 10 times and I still don't get
it. Um, it doesn't mean it's not

866
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:35,760
» the Historical Society.
>> Yeah. or is it your own thing?

867
01:00:33,839 --> 01:00:40,160
» But so we were involved in the project
for a couple re I know a few of the

868
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:43,599
reasons. We can get grants easier. We
we're a municipality. We have a

869
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:48,559
relationship with the state and with
some of the so like there's been a bunch

870
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:53,280
of stuff done there. And so Mike, it
could be about that or that that repair

871
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,440
work.
>> Yeah.

872
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:58,720
» That engineering work which which just
kept ballooning right every time. All

873
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:03,040
right, we'll put this out to bid. Well,
none of the biders want to do it unless

874
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:07,040
you also do this other huge gigantic
thing. Okay, so we've got to figure that

875
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:11,359
in and then you Anyway, so there's that
whole thing that basically a lot of

876
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:14,559
really good effort has gone in but
nothing has happened. So they might be

877
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:22,160
asking about that or they might be
asking about the tax exempt thing where

878
01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:26,720
in meeting of 23 there was a floor vote.
It was just one of the typically they're

879
01:01:23,839 --> 01:01:32,400
prefuncter kind of things like shall the
churches be exempt shall sell us such

880
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:37,119
and such. So and so somebody said well I
don't know if we want to exempt them and

881
01:01:34,799 --> 01:01:40,319
we made a we made a
>> did one year instead of five or

882
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:44,160
whatever. So those are the three things
that come to mind as far as I know.

883
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:47,680
» I I can't remember but I assume that
they do something for the town report

884
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:51,040
every year right?
>> I guess though they might they might put

885
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,839
something in there. I don't know. So,
well, maybe I'll just ask the person

886
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:56,960
what kind of update they were asking
about.

887
01:01:54,319 --> 01:01:59,599
» They ask for kind of a generic update.
>> But it should be it shouldn't be us,

888
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,960
though. It really should be the
historical society.

889
01:02:00,559 --> 01:02:04,400
» Okay.
>> Unless they want to know what we're

890
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,880
doing with the money we collected from
them. I feel like we owe them that

891
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:09,599
answer. But, um,
>> do you do you want me to follow up with

892
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,920
her or do you do you want
>> We can follow up with her.

893
01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:15,520
» Just say what what are the kinds of
things you're looking for? Okay.

894
01:02:13,359 --> 01:02:19,440
» Yeah,
>> those are my guesses. Could be something

895
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:24,240
completely different. guesses. Yeah,
>> it was 20 just quickly Google. It was

896
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:29,920
2021 that we started at 18,000 and
change. So, it's only going to be gone

897
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:32,640
in 5 years.
>> That's true.

898
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:38,720
» Oh, that reminds me. We have to do
another um select board newsletter.

899
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:41,839
So, why don't I pull some stuff from the
uh minutes and then you all can add to

900
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,440
it.
>> Great.

901
01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:48,079
» What you're going to want to do is
listen to Peter and I's radio show. that

902
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:53,720
you're going to it and then it's all
done.

903
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:53,720
» As long as we're doing a newsletter

904
01:02:54,153 --> 01:02:56,173
[laughter]

905
01:02:58,319 --> 01:03:02,440
responsible for pulling it together.

906
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:15,480
» I don't I don't have any updates. I do
have an executive session topic. Um but

907
01:03:10,319 --> 01:03:15,480
I don't think I have any updates. Um,

908
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:21,359
oh, did we remove the wastewater updates
from that?

909
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:25,440
» We did.
>> I was in charge of this agenda, too.

910
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:28,599
» Where's Paul when you need it?
>> I know.

911
01:03:29,119 --> 01:03:34,880
» I did have a So, I'll give a wastewater
update. Uh, I did have I did connect

912
01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:43,200
with Kate yesterday just because we
haven't connected in a while. Um, we're

913
01:03:38,319 --> 01:03:49,760
we're giving DNK feedback on what we
want the parameters to look like for the

914
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:53,280
90% per. They they have sent that to
them. They haven't heard back, but they

915
01:03:51,359 --> 01:03:58,880
think that's just due to some scheduling
stuff. Um,

916
01:03:55,760 --> 01:04:02,480
so I'm still hoping that we have the 90%
per for our next meeting, which is the

917
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:07,200
Monday
the 20some, 21st maybe. No, I think it's

918
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:12,720
Isn't it sooner than that?
>> No,

919
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:16,400
Monday the 21st is the next meeting. Um,
I don't know that we'll have it, but I

920
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:21,200
I'm holding out hope that we do
>> because I think we need it. Um,

921
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:27,520
but yeah, things are going things are
going well there. Lot to decide once we

922
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:30,000
get that 90%. So, that's all I have.
Amy,

923
01:04:28,319 --> 01:04:36,799
» uh, nothing major. I have one thing for
ES. Um, but you sparked my mind. we

924
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:41,599
should sit down and talk about the uh
the town report and just

925
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:45,920
making it look pretty for this year and
and continuing on with that. So, I I'll

926
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:49,280
put a pin in that to just shoot you an
email.

927
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:52,280
» Um good. That's it for me.
>> Laura,

928
01:04:52,720 --> 01:05:02,640
» um I appreciate I still would like to,
you know, continue to meet with and just

929
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:09,520
keep learning. So connect with me, get
me information. Paula has been

930
01:05:05,359 --> 01:05:13,760
incredible. I've been consuming a lot
meeting

931
01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:20,799
» so that I can be as responsive as I can.
Um and also um really getting to know

932
01:05:17,359 --> 01:05:25,760
some of the other um committee members
and um regulars that come to the

933
01:05:23,039 --> 01:05:33,119
meeting. So listening, I'm certainly
welcome to meeting our uh community

934
01:05:29,359 --> 01:05:36,240
members and um keep it up when anytime
you're going to the farmers market. I I

935
01:05:35,039 --> 01:05:41,520
know there's only a little bit of time
left, but want to make sure I'm just uh

936
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:46,799
connecting as much as possible and and
reaching out and getting to know

937
01:05:44,319 --> 01:05:48,640
as much as I can. You relatively quick.
>> You have the list of when we're all

938
01:05:47,839 --> 01:05:52,400
going to be at farmers market.
>> I was gonna say when's the next one?

939
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:55,680
» Uh it must be next week. I think
>> the 24th I thought.

940
01:05:53,839 --> 01:05:57,359
» Okay, two more weeks.
>> Oh, September.

941
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,559
» Uhhuh.
>> I think that's me.

942
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:03,280
» Yeah, it is you. Let me I'll I'll bring
it up.

943
01:06:01,039 --> 01:06:05,680
» Is it just me or is it me and then
somebody else?

944
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:10,400
» I feel like you did a double one time
and I forget when that was

945
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:13,200
» probably shouldn't be that day because I
think you have JCDC that night that

946
01:06:12,079 --> 01:06:16,720
you're the chair of.
>> Yeah,

947
01:06:14,559 --> 01:06:19,920
» I'm bringing it up right now. September
24th. Peter Peter.

948
01:06:18,319 --> 01:06:24,640
» Yeah.
>> And it goes till what? 6:30. Uh yeah,

949
01:06:22,559 --> 01:06:26,400
you start breaking down at
>> 6:30.

950
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:29,599
» 6:30. Yeah,
>> I was driving out of the parking lot at

951
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:32,240
6:33.
>> Yeah, it does not take long to break

952
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:36,559
down.
>> I think I can do a lot of towns.

953
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,599
» I did not bring my calendar, so I'll let
you know.

954
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,640
» Oh, okay.
>> December 24th. I could come and close

955
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:44,319
that down.
>> That would be great.

956
01:06:41,599 --> 01:06:48,880
» Do the whatever it is. 4:30 to 7,
>> right?

957
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:55,359
» I mean, JCDC starts at 6:30. It's fine.
I can I can start it. roll in 6:45 if

958
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,720
you want.
>> I don't mind.

959
01:06:55,839 --> 01:07:00,160
» We'll figure it out. She'll
>> know. We'll figure it out. The other

960
01:06:58,559 --> 01:07:05,599
thing I wanted to ask about just in
terms of I think sounds like we're

961
01:07:02,319 --> 01:07:10,400
agenda's pass two or three meetings, but
I want to not lose track of um the

962
01:07:08,319 --> 01:07:15,200
impact fees. I really like the
suggestions that Chuck made at the last

963
01:07:12,079 --> 01:07:20,000
meeting about impact fees and how to um
make them progressively funded rather

964
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:25,119
than just regressively flat amounts. So,
I like that idea to talk about that.

965
01:07:21,599 --> 01:07:31,200
» Yep. Okay.
>> That's good.

966
01:07:28,319 --> 01:07:35,280
» All right. Um, next on the agenda is
approve the meeting minutes of August

967
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:39,000
20th.
>> I had one thing.

968
01:07:41,119 --> 01:07:47,520
» So, the way this works, I think, do you
know this works, Laura?

969
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:51,599
» Sorry, I'm not following.
>> Sorry, Laura Durham.

970
01:07:49,039 --> 01:07:56,960
» Okay. I think we I think we make I think
we make a we make changes to this and

971
01:07:53,839 --> 01:08:00,240
then you write them down and then
>> send it to Donna or

972
01:07:59,359 --> 01:08:02,720
» I don't know how it works.
>> You're gonna you're going to write down

973
01:08:01,359 --> 01:08:05,359
the changes and then you're going to ask
Paula and Paula will tell you what

974
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,640
» Okay.
>> Yeah. So yeah, you do have to kind of I

975
01:08:07,359 --> 01:08:11,359
don't know what the best way for you to
want to do this is but

976
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:14,960
» I think she I think I think generally
Paula writes down the line we're talking

977
01:08:13,359 --> 01:08:20,600
about and then like writes down word for
word what we say. Yeah.

978
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:20,600
» So on line 374

979
01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:27,120
um the previous sentence begins it was
brought up that if we use the two

980
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:32,960
biggest sites which are also the least
expensive comma and I want to after it

981
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:40,159
says least expensive I want to add at a
gallon at a dollars per gall sorry are

982
01:08:37,199 --> 01:08:43,400
the least expensive in terms of dollars
per gallon

983
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:51,719
because they aren't the least expensive
They're the most expensive, but they're

984
01:08:47,359 --> 01:08:51,719
the least expensive, dollars per gallon.

985
01:08:53,199 --> 01:09:02,080
And then on line 376,
it in the middle of the sentence, it

986
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:06,880
says it costs less to develop. And I
want to say it costs less in dollars per

987
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:09,880
gallon to develop more capacity
initially.

988
01:09:13,440 --> 01:09:18,120
And then the last thing was on line 402.

989
01:09:18,719 --> 01:09:24,880
Um
in parentheses in the previous line it

990
01:09:21,839 --> 01:09:31,080
says though he is not sure we can even
ask him to be there. It should be them

991
01:09:27,679 --> 01:09:31,080
to be there.

992
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:39,080
» That's all I had.

993
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:49,520
All right. I make a motion to approve
the meeting minutes as amended for

994
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:52,480
August 20th.
>> I second that.

995
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:54,080
» All those in favor say I.
>> I.

996
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:58,400
» I.
>> I'd like to make a motion going to

997
01:09:55,280 --> 01:10:03,040
executive session for the purposes of
real estate and personnel because

998
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:06,400
premature disclosure of that information
would be detrimental for the parties

999
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:11,280
involved. And I would like to take a
moment and think about Paula Holstein

1000
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:14,480
Holstein and invite Lauren Durham.
>> I second the motion.

1001
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:17,600
» All those in favor say I.
>> I. Good night everybody.

1002
01:10:17,593 --> 01:10:21,360
[laughter]
>> Quickly before I go, there's no um

1003
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:25,159
warrants tonight.
>> You didn't mention sign.

1004
01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:29,719
» Thank you. Yeah. Good night.