1 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:34,020 It's 7 p.m. We're going to get the meeting started, caught over the regular meeting, August regular meeting of the 2 00:01:34,020 --> 00:01:40,480 District of Village City Council. City Secretaries are quorum. Yes, sir. And first we have the 3 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,820 invocation and pledge by a student pastor of the Church of Jersey Village just to 4 00:01:44,820 --> 00:01:45,120 Johnson. 5 00:01:51,750 --> 00:01:55,870 Let's pray. Father, thank you for this moment in time to get the 6 00:01:55,870 --> 00:02:03,030 gather together and discuss the important issues in the city or we know that you care about 7 00:02:03,030 --> 00:02:05,970 the City of Jersey Village we know that you care about this meeting and I just 8 00:02:05,970 --> 00:02:10,290 pray to you with bless the efforts of all involved and we find common ground 9 00:02:10,290 --> 00:02:13,790 Lord and may you just you bless this city going forward since you used to name 10 00:02:13,790 --> 00:02:21,490 my praying amen. I just do a pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States 11 00:02:21,490 --> 00:02:27,510 of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God 12 00:02:27,510 --> 00:02:31,470 indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. 13 00:02:43,660 --> 00:02:50,940 We're going to move right into the fun stuff today, the 2026, 2027 municipal budget and tax rates. 14 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,020 Adam, see one to Jennifer Brown. 15 00:03:01,930 --> 00:03:06,150 Thank you, Mayor. Sorry. My computer is not responding. I'm trying to get the item pulled up. 16 00:03:06,990 --> 00:03:19,130 So the first item on the agenda is receiving the 2026 calculations from the tax assessor collector for the no new revenue tax rate 17 00:03:19,130 --> 00:03:20,850 and the voter approval tax rate. 18 00:03:21,330 --> 00:03:23,350 If we could do public comments before. 19 00:03:24,310 --> 00:03:24,830 I'm sorry. 20 00:03:25,550 --> 00:03:26,950 Thank you for a much. 21 00:03:28,310 --> 00:03:28,590 Yes. 22 00:03:30,250 --> 00:03:30,650 It's not. 23 00:03:33,620 --> 00:03:33,760 Yep. 24 00:03:34,500 --> 00:03:36,680 No, it's got to be before this. 25 00:03:36,740 --> 00:03:37,800 I was just going down the list. 26 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,020 And also, it's fine to do them after if there was a public hearing 27 00:03:43,020 --> 00:03:46,060 for the because the budget public hearing was last time. 28 00:03:46,380 --> 00:03:47,660 Yeah, we're taking actions. 29 00:03:47,900 --> 00:03:48,960 They're going to have to be. 30 00:03:49,420 --> 00:03:50,920 And there's only one. 31 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:51,880 Kimberly Annale. 32 00:03:56,220 --> 00:03:56,640 Thank you, Tony. 33 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,700 My name is Kimberly Annale and I live at 1-5-601 34 00:04:08,700 --> 00:04:17,400 Singapore Lane. As my 59th installment on tourist village, it may feel heroic to say no more 35 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:24,820 taxes, but then what happens to your community, the activities and camaraderie to secure because 36 00:04:24,820 --> 00:04:29,960 there is no funding for services that make it such a wonderful place to live. Not many employees 37 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:35,400 who would want to risk losing quality career development, nor employee loyalty based on the 38 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:40,860 chance of a sharp and tinsel putting them out of a job. And not just in the job, specialty 39 00:04:40,860 --> 00:04:46,280 roles that misguided by the roles and laws of the Texas legislature, because a city secretary 40 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:53,420 is not just a secretary. To help offset the need of county appraisal district-based property 41 00:04:53,420 --> 00:04:59,640 taxes, the revenue from shopping and eating in Jersey Village first can be the cure. 42 00:05:00,460 --> 00:05:04,920 There are approximately 200 places to shop and eat within the City Limits of Jersey 43 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:05,420 Village. 44 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:11,400 If you are not too sure, you can check the address on Google Maps or hk.org to make sure 45 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,200 you are patronizing locally. 46 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:20,420 The minimum combined 2026 sales tax rate for Jersey Village Texas is 8.25%. 47 00:05:20,420 --> 00:05:24,520 This is the total of state, county, and city sales tax rates. 48 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,920 The Texas Cells Tax Rate is currently 6.25%. 49 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,600 The Jersey Village City Cells Tax Rate is 1%, 50 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,340 plus the Jersey Village Crime Control District's half percent, 51 00:05:37,780 --> 00:05:43,400 and the Jersey Village Fire Control Prevention and Emergency Services District's half percent. 52 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,500 There are calculators that show how much your purchase is divided 53 00:05:47,500 --> 00:05:49,440 from state and local tax amounts. 54 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:55,140 This may even help with the decision of where to buy from and have delivered to. 55 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:04,120 Enter the price without tax such as $50 times 2.8.25 total tax equals 53.13 of which 56 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,120 state taxes, $3.13. 57 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:13,920 There is villages 50 cents, crime control district is 25 cents, and fire control district is 25 cents. 58 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:21,880 When we speculate that with all the cars for sale parking lots we have, why isn't that helping? 59 00:06:22,780 --> 00:06:27,800 Texas taxes, vehicle sales separately from general sales tax. 60 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,920 The motor vehicle sales tax rate is a flat 6.25%. 61 00:06:33,620 --> 00:06:39,860 Only the state portion with no local city, county, or transit authority add-ons. 62 00:06:39,860 --> 00:06:45,480 The total is the same whether you bind Houston, Dallas, Austin, or Jersey Village. 63 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:52,500 With the advent of online shopping, the delivery location is typically where the cell's tax money is received. 64 00:06:53,440 --> 00:07:02,680 The cell's, the tax rate applies to your order will be the combined state and local tax rates of the address where your order is delivered to or fulfilled from. 65 00:07:03,140 --> 00:07:08,480 These factors can change between the time you place in order or when your shipment is complete 66 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:13,500 as making sure what needs to be sent from where and where to as finalized. 67 00:07:14,220 --> 00:07:18,660 In addition to the tax revenue distribution, shopping and eating with 68 00:07:18,660 --> 00:07:22,740 interest village also increases the livelihood of these businesses, 69 00:07:23,260 --> 00:07:26,640 making them more inclined to remain within our little town. 70 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,600 So although it may be more convenient to stop at a pharmacy and 71 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,160 pharmacy in your work, we have two close to home. 72 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:43,140 Even if there are several chain stores and eateries along your Saturday errands route, stop into our storefronts first. 73 00:07:43,620 --> 00:07:46,300 It is quite nice when you become a regular at locations. 74 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,780 The employees begin to notice and remember you. 75 00:07:50,260 --> 00:07:55,620 It really increases that small town vibe that we all love about your civilage. 76 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:56,300 Thank you. 77 00:07:59,020 --> 00:08:00,180 Thank you. 78 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,840 Now we can move to the budgets. 79 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:11,540 See one discussion consideration resolution 2026-37 and the 80 00:08:11,540 --> 00:08:14,840 calculations of the no new revenue rate Jennifer Brown. 81 00:08:18,050 --> 00:08:23,510 So earlier this month we received the no new revenue tax rate and 82 00:08:23,510 --> 00:08:27,810 voter approval tax rate calculations from the Harris County 83 00:08:27,810 --> 00:08:30,450 tax assessor collector who is our designated 84 00:08:30,450 --> 00:08:35,830 tax assessor for record and for actual collections. 85 00:08:37,790 --> 00:08:43,690 So part of the section 26.04 of the tax code, 86 00:08:44,190 --> 00:08:47,390 City Council needs to formally receive these 87 00:08:47,390 --> 00:08:50,350 calculations from the tax assessor. 88 00:08:50,830 --> 00:08:54,750 Included as part of the agenda item is the actual worksheet 89 00:08:54,750 --> 00:09:07,570 That determines the calculation of these tax rates as well as the notices that are published in association with these calculations. 90 00:09:08,470 --> 00:09:21,790 The resolution before you, 26-26-37 is simply just recognize that you have received these calculations from the tax assessor. 91 00:09:21,790 --> 00:09:26,150 We've also included the certified estimate from the Harris County 92 00:09:26,150 --> 00:09:27,790 Harris Central Prasal District. 93 00:09:28,530 --> 00:09:30,890 They have not certified values yet. 94 00:09:30,970 --> 00:09:32,950 They anticipate doing that in September. 95 00:09:33,970 --> 00:09:38,310 And so we are conducting these calculations using 96 00:09:38,310 --> 00:09:40,190 the certified estimates of value, 97 00:09:40,470 --> 00:09:44,790 which is an acceptable substitute for the certified values. 98 00:09:46,490 --> 00:09:48,750 And that would be happy to answer any questions. 99 00:09:48,750 --> 00:09:56,010 So to clarify tonight, for this item in particular, this is not Council deciding on anything 100 00:09:56,010 --> 00:09:57,650 we're just receiving it. 101 00:09:58,090 --> 00:10:04,270 This is simply receiving, noting the fact that you have received these calculations from 102 00:10:04,270 --> 00:10:05,370 the tax assessor. 103 00:10:07,900 --> 00:10:15,060 Jennifer, just for purposes of explanation, could you explain what the no-new revenue tax 104 00:10:15,060 --> 00:10:20,040 rate is and what the voter approval tax rate is, just in a general sense. 105 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:32,460 Absolutely. The no new revenue tax rate is the tax rate that levies the same amount of revenue as last year's tax rate on properties that were taxed in both years. 106 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:44,940 So basically it excludes any new value. It also adjusts for any lawsuits that settled in during the tax year 2025 or prior your refund. 107 00:10:44,940 --> 00:10:54,140 And so what we had quite a few, and so that is all taken into account in the voter, in the 108 00:10:54,140 --> 00:10:55,420 no new revenue tax rate. 109 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:02,020 The voter approval tax rate is you take the no new revenue maintenance and operations 110 00:11:02,020 --> 00:11:08,320 rate and you are allowed to grow that by three and a half percent and then you add the rate 111 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:13,320 that is required to service your debt for the following year and then that becomes your voter 112 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:14,120 approval rate. 113 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:14,120 I 114 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,040 feel like this form has gotten a whole lot longer. Maybe we have a motion. 115 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:30,540 It has. I'll motion to a pervolution 2026-37. 116 00:11:32,380 --> 00:11:38,100 All second. A motion that's second. All those in favor. All those against. 117 00:11:39,580 --> 00:11:42,620 Brian, there's a little bit of delay, I think. That was in favor, right? 118 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:44,380 Yes, approve. 119 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:51,460 Motion passes unanimously moving on to C2 discussion and consideration of ordinance 120 00:11:51,460 --> 00:11:57,600 2026-21 adopting the annual budget city manager awescent lease. 121 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:02,280 Mayor and councilors before you is a proposed budget that we've modified since the last 122 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:03,740 time council looked at it. 123 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,180 After the July budget meeting, council director has to look at it to add some items into 124 00:12:07,180 --> 00:12:07,660 there. 125 00:12:07,660 --> 00:12:10,660 They want to see some pay adjustments for some positions. 126 00:12:11,900 --> 00:12:14,000 Staffings analysis as well. 127 00:12:14,620 --> 00:12:16,200 So I reviewed the salary adjustment 128 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,600 mouth says you remember from the budget book 129 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,020 that was tentatively had barely finished 130 00:12:21,020 --> 00:12:22,040 compiling the information. 131 00:12:22,660 --> 00:12:24,080 So tonight we're recommending three positions 132 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,520 for adjustment, court administrator, 133 00:12:25,820 --> 00:12:27,580 parks and recommender and public works manager. 134 00:12:28,500 --> 00:12:30,980 Court administrators, it's 15,000 below public works 135 00:12:30,980 --> 00:12:33,920 measures 13 and parks and recommender is 6,000. 136 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,560 Those total $34,000. 137 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:40,520 The six positions not addressed this year would remain consideration for next year. 138 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:45,060 Two of the employees were hired within the last six months and compensation adjustments at this stage of their tenure. 139 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,120 I think we can probably hold off on. 140 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:52,140 There are many four positions ranked among the top 12 highest compensated employees in the prior calendar year. 141 00:12:52,580 --> 00:12:56,320 So I think we can look at those in future years as well. 142 00:12:57,020 --> 00:12:59,620 We're also proposing to change in health insurance plans. 143 00:12:59,620 --> 00:13:05,880 the bulk of that is later on in the agenda, but we'll save about $82,000 of Council approves 144 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,960 those changes there. 145 00:13:08,660 --> 00:13:12,540 We believe we can complete the fire department sewer line project in this current fiscal 146 00:13:12,540 --> 00:13:15,040 year, so that reduces the line by $75,000. 147 00:13:16,460 --> 00:13:19,280 We currently have one position open for building maintenance. 148 00:13:19,780 --> 00:13:23,940 We're proposing to not fill that for six months with savings of $31,000. 149 00:13:24,020 --> 00:13:28,940 We remove some intern wages, and we've also authorized the over time and the streets department. 150 00:13:28,940 --> 00:13:31,740 So all of those are approximately $200,000. 151 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,120 So the budget tonight still has a fund balanced 152 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,020 drawdown of approximately $7.86 million 153 00:13:37,020 --> 00:13:38,540 for the city campus project, 154 00:13:38,740 --> 00:13:40,040 which is a state-of-council priority. 155 00:13:40,940 --> 00:13:42,600 The fund balances have been built up over the years 156 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,600 as a facility reserved for the construction 157 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,180 slash renovation of public facilities owned and operated 158 00:13:47,180 --> 00:13:48,380 by the city of Jersey Village 159 00:13:48,380 --> 00:13:51,280 as per resolution in 2007-46. 160 00:13:52,180 --> 00:13:54,460 The city's fund balance policy requires a minimum reserve 161 00:13:54,460 --> 00:13:56,800 equal to 90 days of annual recurring expenditures. 162 00:13:57,380 --> 00:14:02,920 for fiscal $27, that threshold is $3. just under $3.8 million. The projected fiscal 163 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:08,840 $27 opening fund balance is just under $12.6 million. The proposed budget has a draw 164 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:15,100 down of $7.86 million, which would reduce the fund balance to $4.726 million. Of that 165 00:14:15,100 --> 00:14:20,620 $85,000 is designated for the compensated absences, leaving an undesignated balance above 166 00:14:20,620 --> 00:14:26,780 all required reserve amounts of approximately $846,000. So the plan drawdown keeps us 167 00:14:26,780 --> 00:14:32,980 above the 90 day policy floor by approximately 931,000 with the undezing 168 00:14:32,980 --> 00:14:36,740 aid imbalance plus the 85,000 compensated absences set aside. 169 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,140 So the final budget here is based on proposed 170 00:14:39,140 --> 00:14:45,080 out, AdValorum tax rate of 0.817625, which is 0.003 171 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,100 higher than the tax rate for fiscal 26. 172 00:14:48,060 --> 00:14:51,300 For the average homeowner, with the valuation of home with 173 00:14:51,300 --> 00:14:55,440 $342,000, your estimated tax increase would be $20 and 48 cents 174 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,740 for the year for an over $65 that's $17. 175 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:09,360 I head to fiscal 28. We anticipate that that service rate to be decreasing by about .03 or 3 cents, which would bring our total tax rate below 80 cents for fiscal 28. 176 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:20,460 When the pool bond is put out for a vote and the voters approved that last fall, we estimated the increase in property taxes for this year would be about $75 for a homeowner with the residential exemption in 45 for anything over 65. 177 00:15:20,460 --> 00:15:23,400 So we're saying well below those projections. 178 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,780 Public hearing was held on this back on July 21st. 179 00:15:26,900 --> 00:15:30,040 Several changes, all of those are listed in the report here below. 180 00:15:30,260 --> 00:15:32,740 The combined income statements are attached as well. 181 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,460 Final line item allocation report is in the packet for council's review. 182 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,720 Total budget, 97.56 million excluding interfund transfers, 183 00:15:42,420 --> 00:15:47,600 with 58.67 million in capital projects and 38.93 million in operating expenditures. 184 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:53,420 Funding sources include 71.5 and 9 million revenues and 25.97 from fund balances, which is 185 00:15:53,420 --> 00:15:57,620 for capital projects and capital replacement funded from existing funds, including the 186 00:15:57,620 --> 00:15:59,060 bond proceeds and fund balances. 187 00:15:59,700 --> 00:16:03,360 With that, happy to answer any questions the council might have on this proposed budget. 188 00:16:05,020 --> 00:16:10,320 Also, you talked about the pool bond, and looking back 189 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:17,800 away from prior year projections, basically it was the as a result of passing the pool bond. 190 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:28,440 The debt service rate would basically generate or cost the residents anywhere between $64, 191 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,760 $177 per year. 192 00:16:33,620 --> 00:16:42,780 So, we're raising, we are raising the tax rate by a very small increment, but not enough to cover the school bond. 193 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,600 I'm sorry, school bond. The pool bond. 194 00:16:50,020 --> 00:16:51,360 Can you talk about that for a second? 195 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,900 Yeah, and Jennifer might have to jump in a little bit. She knows these are a little bit better than I do. 196 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:01,740 But we have not yet sold that pool bond, and we don't anticipate selling that pool bond until the next fiscal year, 197 00:17:01,740 --> 00:17:08,940 So that we'll have the some rolling off parse and another piece of the debt service rate that we're proposing is 198 00:17:09,660 --> 00:17:15,000 the bulk of our debt service will be from utility expenses, water and sewer lines. 199 00:17:15,340 --> 00:17:21,040 And so we're proposing to use a little bit of the fund balance from the utility fund to covers the 200 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,000 to cover debt service fund balance requirements by policy. 201 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:38,760 And then, in looking through the information presented, specifically pages 30 through 32, 202 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:49,040 you had the proposed budget numbers, and then you had changes in the proposed budget 203 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,600 as presented this evening. 204 00:17:50,600 --> 00:18:02,700 So, the items you mentioned are some of the things that you looked at, but looking at those pages, there are a lot of other things that you went back into the budget and kind of revise. 205 00:18:02,900 --> 00:18:03,960 Is that correct? 206 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:18,520 For instance, on page 30, general fund, increase, add back file file, add decrease, adjust allocation to FCP. 207 00:18:21,310 --> 00:18:23,190 No, I'm sorry, that was the same. 208 00:18:23,530 --> 00:18:27,210 Did you make any other adjustments in the other funds other than the things that you mentioned? 209 00:18:27,830 --> 00:18:29,930 And if you could, could you talk about those a little bit? 210 00:18:30,530 --> 00:18:36,790 So we did make some adjustments mainly in the debt service funds and the utility funds. 211 00:18:37,750 --> 00:18:44,530 We, since we received the updated estimates from our financial advisor, we incorporated the 212 00:18:44,530 --> 00:18:50,390 more accurate debt service payments and transfers between the debt service fund or the utility 213 00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:57,670 fund to the debt service fund. And then we also adjusted the tax revenues in the debt service 214 00:18:57,670 --> 00:19:04,410 fund and the transfer in from the park bond. Are the pool bonds, sorry, into the debt 215 00:19:04,410 --> 00:19:10,650 percent. Did you make any other adjustments on light item, for instance, 216 00:19:13,380 --> 00:19:14,520 or are they pretty 217 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:25,060 much as proposed? Pretty much as proposed. We did adjust a couple of line items in the 218 00:19:25,060 --> 00:19:29,940 capital replacement fund. We added replacing the generators at the water plants, which 219 00:19:29,940 --> 00:19:36,260 was not included in the initial proposed budget. And then we reconciled our contributions 220 00:19:36,260 --> 00:19:43,260 to the capital or a placement fund based on our vehicle and equipment replacement plan. 221 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,420 And so that there were some adjustments based on that. 222 00:19:48,580 --> 00:19:51,220 Those didn't get included, didn't get entered into the system 223 00:19:51,220 --> 00:19:54,980 and the initial filed budgets they didn't get captured. 224 00:19:59,170 --> 00:20:04,890 And then we also reallocated some expenses to the fire control district 225 00:20:04,890 --> 00:20:08,830 and to the crime control district from the general fund. 226 00:20:08,830 --> 00:20:12,650 And so that's basically drawing down on those fun balances a little bit. 227 00:20:13,010 --> 00:20:13,090 Yes. 228 00:20:14,610 --> 00:20:20,070 I will say, as a matter of exercise, I like a little stress on the budget because I think 229 00:20:20,070 --> 00:20:25,610 and I talked to Austin about it, I liked the department heads, I like the city to really 230 00:20:25,610 --> 00:20:28,910 look at the budget critically and say these things we really need. 231 00:20:30,090 --> 00:20:34,450 So I know it's, I know it's hell on you guys to go through that, but I think that exercise 232 00:20:34,450 --> 00:20:41,370 as worthwhile. And I appreciate the work that you guys put into it to make it happen. 233 00:20:41,670 --> 00:20:45,670 But I do like that a little stress on it. I think it produces good results. 234 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:57,900 I was just going to say as compared to, you know, year over year, you may recall that 235 00:20:57,900 --> 00:21:04,160 a meeting or two ago we had a discussion regarding the over 65 of exemption and potentially 236 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:09,880 adjusting that. And as a result of that discussion, we decided to take no action to leave 237 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:15,320 it where it is. And at that time, we also discussed, and I mentioned, well, I would be comfortable 238 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:23,040 leaving it where it is, as long as the tax rate stays flat. In the course of, since May, we've 239 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:30,260 had discussions about the funding of the phase one, and going all the way back to December, January 240 00:21:30,260 --> 00:21:40,340 of last year after the voters in November did not support the $21.6 million bond. As we're 241 00:21:40,340 --> 00:21:46,040 deciding how to move forward, I was of the mindset and through this summer, it was of the 242 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:51,640 mindset that rather than using all of the reserve's access of the required reserve in the general 243 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:59,640 fund that we should look at perhaps using only a part of it and allowing the voters to vote on 244 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:05,320 a bond for phase one, because without additional funds, we would certainly need a bond 245 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,760 for phase two. 246 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:13,880 Notwithstanding those discussions, the consensus among Council was that because of the funds 247 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:20,040 available, approximately 8 million excess of the required reserve in the general fund, that 248 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:26,920 we would move forward with a budget that uses those funds and doesn't require a bond while 249 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,660 that's not personally what I would prefer to do. I recognize and respect that that's the 250 00:22:31,660 --> 00:22:36,940 decision of other Council members moving more towards the pay as you go. I will say that as 251 00:22:36,940 --> 00:22:44,020 a result of the budget meeting, which we had several weeks ago, the first lengthy one here, 252 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:50,380 and then discussions that followed including discussions between Austin and individual Council members, 253 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:59,320 recognising the residents concern over, for example, the having four firefighters available 254 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:05,060 on a fire truck that considerable efforts were made to make adjustments to the budget, 255 00:23:06,980 --> 00:23:14,520 to try to do our best to minimize any increase in the tax rate. But at the same time, provide the level 256 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:20,040 services that are being provided. And I think that Jennifer, you and Austin have done a very 257 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:26,080 admirable job in making those adjustments. And I think that that dialogue has been very 258 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:31,960 good. One thing just as a matter of comparing last year to this year that I would advocate for 259 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:37,660 is before going into the budget season next year. We really try to cover a lot in that budget 260 00:23:37,660 --> 00:23:43,480 session. And it's really difficult because there are so many departments, so many particulars, 261 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:48,480 And you don't really have an opportunity to delve into the real details. 262 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:49,940 And it might be an idea. 263 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,720 I'm just throwing this out as a suggestion, not as an action item. 264 00:23:52,740 --> 00:23:59,860 But it might be an idea that before going into budget season, maybe in Q2, or I guess 265 00:23:59,860 --> 00:24:08,040 Q1, I'm not in the first quarter of 2027 or early in the second quarter, to have maybe some 266 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,520 workshop sessions where we would take some individual departments and talk about what they anticipate. 267 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:17,900 the budget is going to be so we could have a more robust discussion over those issues. 268 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,060 But breaking it up, not trying to do it all at once, in that way, when we actually get 269 00:24:22,060 --> 00:24:29,500 to the budget session, as we had just recently, I think we can cover more ground, because 270 00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:31,660 we will have addressed a lot of it. 271 00:24:31,820 --> 00:24:35,660 But at any rate, I just wanted to provide that as a recap, say that I thought that the 272 00:24:35,660 --> 00:24:37,340 budget process this year went well. 273 00:24:37,340 --> 00:24:43,660 Well, I understand a lot of residents' concerns about we don't want the tax rate to increase. 274 00:24:44,660 --> 00:24:47,080 There is a very slight increase here. 275 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:53,360 We do have to remember that the pool bond that, you know, that's something that the voters voted on 276 00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:55,420 and that will increase the debt service. 277 00:24:56,140 --> 00:25:01,700 We also have to remember that we're living in a world where everything costs a little more than it did yesterday 278 00:25:01,700 --> 00:25:09,460 and we're doing our best as a city to address and compensate people and pay all the expenses 279 00:25:09,460 --> 00:25:16,140 and provide the level of services while still being cognizant of how that may stress taxpayers. 280 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:22,740 So I just wanted to say that and primarily thank you Austin and Jennifer for the work that you did on the budget. 281 00:25:22,740 --> 00:25:23,360 I 282 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,300 do have a question. 283 00:25:35,020 --> 00:25:36,580 I was going to say, thank you. 284 00:25:36,740 --> 00:25:40,280 That was actually, I agree with a lot of what you just said. 285 00:25:42,580 --> 00:25:44,820 Just a question, and I feel like we talked about this, 286 00:25:44,940 --> 00:25:46,140 and I just don't remember. 287 00:25:47,380 --> 00:25:49,020 How many interns do we have? 288 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,520 Right now we have two. 289 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,900 We're looking to probably add another one next year, 290 00:25:56,060 --> 00:25:58,100 but we found a partnership that we can utilize 291 00:25:58,100 --> 00:26:00,220 with the University of Houston where they would pay them, 292 00:26:00,220 --> 00:26:05,540 rather than us having to pay them, which would be very helpful. 293 00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:11,380 So there would be like three total, one, the city doesn't pay, and then the other two. 294 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,880 So the 40 that's listed in here is split between the two interns. 295 00:26:17,900 --> 00:26:18,200 Correct. 296 00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:24,080 It's more our base if we can get somebody to work a little few more hours every year than 297 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,300 that's kind of where that comes from. 298 00:26:33,740 --> 00:26:39,360 question, I'm just kind of bringing it up, but I think this is something, I think it's too 299 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:46,000 laid, this is already passed, but there was discussion about adding a line item each month for 300 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:55,300 citizens to pay directly for trash collection and recycling fee. And I do want to say, pick you back 301 00:26:55,300 --> 00:27:01,420 enough what Simon said. You know, I think Austin and Jennifer, you guys did a really great job 302 00:27:01,420 --> 00:27:03,120 and working on the budget. 303 00:27:03,460 --> 00:27:05,280 So I would say great job, Cudos. 304 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:06,700 I wish we could have got all the way there 305 00:27:06,700 --> 00:27:08,400 in terms of not having to increase the rate at all, 306 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,920 because I made a commitment not to do that. 307 00:27:11,180 --> 00:27:13,360 But my thought is if on top of that, 308 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,480 we also added that additional fee for trash collection, 309 00:27:18,540 --> 00:27:19,700 which, I don't know what the amount was, 310 00:27:20,020 --> 00:27:22,500 I was thinking it was kind of maybe say $20 a month, 311 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,680 or something along those lines. 312 00:27:24,940 --> 00:27:26,660 My impression would be that would have been enough 313 00:27:26,660 --> 00:27:27,900 to close the gaps. 314 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,200 I wanted to see if you guys agreed with that, 315 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,880 had any comments there. 316 00:27:37,070 --> 00:27:40,630 My experience with this and I'm only gonna speak for my 317 00:27:40,630 --> 00:27:48,890 experience. When you start messing with people's trash and their water you might 318 00:27:48,890 --> 00:27:57,720 end up with a lot more or many more impacts to that than than the savings but I 319 00:27:59,260 --> 00:28:07,420 understand the I understand where you're going with that but I because I 320 00:28:10,970 --> 00:28:10,970 thought 321 00:28:12,490 --> 00:28:21,110 I think trust fees are a good revenue source at some point, but like I said earlier, I like a little stress on the budget. 322 00:28:21,310 --> 00:28:26,210 I think it forces staff to look at the expenditure side before they look at the revenue side. 323 00:28:27,050 --> 00:28:29,990 So I think we still have some room on the expenditure side. 324 00:28:30,250 --> 00:28:36,870 That if we need at some point in the future, if we need to balance a budget and we need to cut expenditures, I think there is still room there. 325 00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:48,030 So, you know, the Oak Creek cliche, we don't have a revenue problem, we've got spending problem, we don't have any problems, but I like the exercise of looking at the expenses first. 326 00:28:48,790 --> 00:28:55,330 Another thing, you know, at our last meeting we did all have a consensus that we wanted the tax rate to be the same. 327 00:28:55,970 --> 00:29:00,830 Knowing that the tax rates comprised of two components, the M&O component and the debt service component, 328 00:29:00,830 --> 00:29:08,190 with our debt service component increasing with a flat tax rate, it necessarily means that the 329 00:29:08,190 --> 00:29:15,410 M&O rate will decrease. So we would expect staff to do more with less. So I did have some 330 00:29:15,410 --> 00:29:21,330 discussions with Austin and we may have gotten there, but what I proposed was a flat M&O rate, 331 00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:27,870 M&O rate this year as it was last year, and then increased the debt service rate to whatever the 332 00:29:27,870 --> 00:29:34,030 that service is. And again, with Austin said, there was a, a $6.5 million bond that was approved by the voters. 333 00:29:34,150 --> 00:29:41,610 There was a cost to that. And that will hit that debt service rate. So, a general question I didn't have time to look at it. 334 00:29:42,050 --> 00:29:49,690 But is our M&O rate this year the same as last year? And is it more or less? 335 00:29:57,620 --> 00:29:59,920 And what, how is our debt service rate as compared to last? 336 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:00,780 Last year. 337 00:30:06,390 --> 00:30:24,090 Well, if you don't have it available, that's okay. I mean, but we've got to recognize that increasing debt. If we don't change the tax rate, it will necessarily decrease the M&O rate, which will decrease the operating expenses basically. 338 00:30:24,090 --> 00:30:29,390 Sorry, I had the wrong version of my worksheet open so I was trying to open the correct one. 339 00:30:30,330 --> 00:30:39,450 So what we're proposing is a slight increase on the MNO rate compared to the 2025 tax rate 340 00:30:39,450 --> 00:30:43,790 and it is a slight decrease on the debt service component. 341 00:30:44,530 --> 00:30:52,830 We are using some additional utility revenues to fund the fund balance policy and the debt service fund, 342 00:30:52,830 --> 00:30:59,790 which by right, you know, more than half the debt service and that in that fund is going to be utility debt. 343 00:30:59,790 --> 00:31:02,570 So it makes sense to have the utility fund contribute. 344 00:31:03,550 --> 00:31:06,370 And so because of that, we were able to lower the debt service rate slightly. 345 00:31:07,330 --> 00:31:11,290 Okay, so what deal we're all is 0.033, which is one third of one cent. 346 00:31:11,610 --> 00:31:12,030 Is that correct? 347 00:31:13,590 --> 00:31:20,470 So given in 2018, given debt service, given all the factors that you guys are dealing with, I think it's fairly commendable. 348 00:31:24,530 --> 00:31:37,870 Jennifer, one other question with respect to the schedule of death service on page 43 because this obviously goes to the in part to the death service calculation or the death service rate rather. 349 00:31:38,790 --> 00:31:46,190 So the 2027 rate that's calculated does that include the drawdown on the six and a half million dollar pool bond. 350 00:31:46,190 --> 00:31:51,550 It does not. So because we have not sold that debt yet, we are not allowed to love the 351 00:31:51,550 --> 00:31:57,650 attacks for it. So we are planning to sell that debt at a premium with some capitalized 352 00:31:57,650 --> 00:32:02,690 interest that would cover the first year's interest payment. We would not actually be making 353 00:32:02,690 --> 00:32:10,290 principal payments on that debt until fiscal year 2028. And because we are paying off the 2016 354 00:32:10,290 --> 00:32:18,050 refunding bonds. This 2027 is our last year of debt service. So that is naturally falling off and we will 355 00:32:18,050 --> 00:32:24,190 actually see a decrease in the debt service rate because of that even with adding the pull bond 356 00:32:24,190 --> 00:32:32,810 in next year. So just those top two figures, the the 2027 debt service is 3.4 million and the 2028 357 00:32:32,810 --> 00:32:39,990 with the drop-off is 2.5 out of 5 million. That'll be increased because of the pool bond, 358 00:32:40,410 --> 00:32:45,970 but it's not going to increase it back to what the 2027 rate is. Is that a fair statement? 359 00:32:46,090 --> 00:32:48,610 That's correct. Okay. Thank you. 360 00:32:53,660 --> 00:32:59,860 Just one other comment. When Simon was talking, we were talking. He talked about phase one, 361 00:33:00,220 --> 00:33:05,840 the project, and his desire to have a bond. I'd like to point out one thing, 362 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:14,900 that the money for the money of the budget for phase one is essentially coming from a facility 363 00:33:14,900 --> 00:33:19,200 replacement fund. Years ago that fund was set up for this very purpose. 364 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:22,780 So we're not 365 00:33:22,780 --> 00:33:28,220 drawing down on our 90 day reserve. We have plenty of excess money to handle emergencies. 366 00:33:28,220 --> 00:33:36,780 But just to kind of reiterate that the money that will be used on phase 1, it's a city hall 367 00:33:36,780 --> 00:33:42,800 was coming from a facility replacement fund and that was set up for this very purpose. 368 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,440 So that it wasn't necessary to issue debt that we could pay for 369 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:48,200 at a fund balance. 370 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,340 So it is by design. 371 00:34:05,270 --> 00:34:16,630 And also when I looked because you said it was a it's 0.003 so for I think I read was a 342, the house, the taxable that. 372 00:34:20,580 --> 00:34:24,200 I had all these page numbers written down and then I lost them, I don't know what I did. 373 00:34:26,810 --> 00:34:28,270 342 pages 24. 374 00:34:33,450 --> 00:34:34,150 Okay, so 375 00:34:36,550 --> 00:34:41,710 there's a paragraph in there where you described that. 376 00:34:41,710 --> 00:34:50,890 And I think, annually, that it was like $20 or something, the difference or whatever. 377 00:34:50,930 --> 00:34:51,750 $20 and $40. 378 00:34:51,950 --> 00:34:53,870 So, what I did 379 00:34:56,590 --> 00:35:03,650 was I looked at my house and I looked at the taxable value because that's 380 00:35:03,650 --> 00:35:05,430 what it's measure on. 381 00:35:05,430 --> 00:35:12,490 And I looked at, I did the formula, double-checked it and saw what we spent in taxes. 382 00:35:15,210 --> 00:35:25,150 This year and then I took the same value and went ahead and put the new tax rate or the proposed tax rate that's in the packet. 383 00:35:26,250 --> 00:35:32,310 And the difference was maybe like $8. I think the increase is going to be $8 annually. 384 00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:35,710 does that sound remotely close to you, Jennifer, 385 00:35:36,010 --> 00:35:37,310 since you're the numbers person? 386 00:35:39,710 --> 00:35:41,490 I'm sorry, can you repeat that? 387 00:35:42,470 --> 00:35:45,790 My home, my taxable value, it's a little under 300. 388 00:35:46,930 --> 00:35:50,790 So I went in and I took the current tax rate 389 00:35:50,790 --> 00:35:56,330 and then the proposed tax rate, which is 0.003 above what we have now. 390 00:35:56,870 --> 00:36:01,090 And when I calculated it, I had to do it a couple times 391 00:36:01,090 --> 00:36:05,110 because it was only like an $8 difference annually. 392 00:36:06,510 --> 00:36:08,010 So I'm just sad, like I did it right, 393 00:36:08,190 --> 00:36:10,370 you think that that's sensible or okay, yes. 394 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,040 To answer your question, Greg, 395 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,440 you're asking about the 300's of a cent, 396 00:36:23,860 --> 00:36:27,680 the split out between that service 397 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,220 and maintenance operations. 398 00:36:30,220 --> 00:36:37,080 It's in c.7 on pages 184, 185 where it breaks it out. 399 00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:44,400 and explains it. And then to your other point, talking about the facilities replacement fund, 400 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:52,660 that was a resolution 2007-46 that was specifically designated for, as you described, what 401 00:36:52,660 --> 00:36:55,120 we're experiencing now with this new facility. 402 00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:12,040 Any further discussion? 403 00:37:20,370 --> 00:37:23,610 And there's a specific motion for this item. 404 00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:31,150 In the packet, but it's 405 00:37:31,150 --> 00:37:38,130 approved ordinance, 2026, 21 of the City of Jersey Village Texas stopping the annual budget for fiscal year beginning October 1, 406 00:37:38,190 --> 00:37:47,650 2026 ending September 30, 2027, appropriateing the sums set forth their end in authorizing expenditure funds in accordance with the adopted budget. 407 00:37:53,010 --> 00:37:54,650 Someone to make that motion is second. 408 00:37:54,970 --> 00:37:59,630 I'll make a motion to approve ordinance number 2226-21. 409 00:38:00,210 --> 00:38:01,630 I'll second. 410 00:38:02,330 --> 00:38:08,670 I have a motion as second. I'll now call Pointing to Council Member by name to take a record vote once your name is called answer 411 00:38:08,670 --> 00:38:13,690 I signify your approval of the motion or need to signify your disapproval. 412 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:29,060 Council Member Britain. Council Member. Council Member Hughes. Council Member Holden. Council Member Rossi. Council Member McColley. 413 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:43,600 Let the record reflect on motion carried if that is the case in motion carries, now we're 414 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:49,740 going to move on to C3 conduct, a separate vote to ratify the property tax increase 415 00:38:49,740 --> 00:38:53,900 to reflect on the 2026 to 2027 budget adopted today. 416 00:38:54,260 --> 00:38:54,860 Jennifer Brown. 417 00:38:55,700 --> 00:38:56,100 Thank you, Mayor. 418 00:38:56,100 --> 00:39:04,740 So, because this budget will raise more property taxes than last year's budget in total, 419 00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:20,100 by $98,805 or 0.28. 0.82% and of that, 24,836 is tax revenue to be raised from new property, 420 00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:27,480 added to the tax roll this year. Texas local government code section 102.007 421 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:32,880 requires that we hold a separate vote apart from the budget and apart from the tax rate 422 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,860 adoption to ratify that tax revenue increase and so that's what this item is doing. 423 00:39:44,260 --> 00:39:46,140 It doesn't have to be a record vote just as simple. 424 00:39:46,220 --> 00:39:46,660 Yep. 425 00:39:46,660 --> 00:39:47,300 ratify it. 426 00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:50,620 Recommended motion is in the fact that 427 00:40:01,820 --> 00:40:06,000 I'm moved to ratify the property tax increase 428 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,520 Reflected in a fiscal year, 2026, 2027, budget has adopted. 429 00:40:12,540 --> 00:40:13,820 Have a motion news, second. 430 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:15,240 I'll second. 431 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,000 Motion is second, all those in favor. 432 00:40:19,580 --> 00:40:20,680 All those opposed. 433 00:40:22,380 --> 00:40:22,980 Naked. 434 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:24,760 Motion passes. 435 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,340 Moving on to item C4, 436 00:40:27,460 --> 00:40:30,880 conducted public hearing on the proposed 2026 tax rate. 437 00:40:47,460 --> 00:40:49,940 Now, call to order this public hearing on the tax. 438 00:40:49,940 --> 00:40:54,060 Tax rate increase everyone's desire to speak of the Syrian should complete a public hearing 439 00:40:54,060 --> 00:40:58,020 comic crime present at the sea secretary. The purpose of this public hearing is to give all interested 440 00:40:58,020 --> 00:41:10,320 part of persons the right to express support for or opposition to the proposed tax rate of 0.821375 per 100 441 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,460 of rate that is not greater than the voter approval tax rate. As a result, 442 00:41:14,620 --> 00:41:18,380 Georgia village does not require to hold an election at which voters may accept or reject 443 00:41:18,380 --> 00:41:23,320 proposed tax rate. This means the City of Jersey village is proposing to increase taxes for the 444 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:29,480 2026 tax year. I would now like to request the City Finance Secretary Jennifer Brown, 445 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,700 summarized the subject of this public hearing. 446 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:39,560 Thank you. So we are because the city is proposing 447 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:46,220 at tax rate. The published proposed tax rate was what you all voted on on July 21st, 448 00:41:46,220 --> 00:41:55,240 the 0.821-375. That is what we're having the public hearing on. You can adopt anything 449 00:41:55,240 --> 00:42:01,780 up to that tax rate this evening. Since that tax rate is above the no new revenue tax rate 450 00:42:01,780 --> 00:42:12,500 of 0.00558, we are required to hold a public hearing. The notice was published in the August 451 00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:21,700 11, or you remember what day, Courtney, that was the week before it was, it was the Friday 452 00:42:21,700 --> 00:42:25,620 before August 11, I can't remember, the 7th, sorry. 453 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,360 We didn't get our calculations in time to publish when we normally publish, so it was published 454 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:38,240 on Friday, August 7th, in the Houston Chronicle, the notice of the public hearing and of 455 00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:45,300 proposed tax rate, and at this time, at this meeting, after you receive and hear all persons 456 00:42:45,300 --> 00:42:51,100 wishing to speak on the tax rate, then you may vote to consider the tax rate after the 457 00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:58,080 public hearing. And if you do not adopt the tax rate at this meeting, then you'll need to state 458 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,760 the date time and place for action on the tax rate. 459 00:43:04,100 --> 00:43:06,860 Thank you. Now you all do your best, but 460 00:43:06,860 --> 00:43:10,520 County does wait till the last possible moment to get you the information. 461 00:43:12,420 --> 00:43:17,860 Anyone else, desire to speak during this public hearing for the tax rate increase. 462 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,800 Seeing anyone else desire to speak, I close this public hearing on the tax rate increase. 463 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:32,680 And we move to item C5 to discuss, consider approval, the motion to set the tax rate for debt service for tax year 26. 464 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,260 general for real. 465 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,640 We have the next two items are to propose the two components 466 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:53,860 of the tax rate. By law we have to adopt the tax rate in two pieces. The maintenance 467 00:43:53,860 --> 00:43:59,140 and operations rate and the debt service tax rate. The debt service tax rate 468 00:43:59,140 --> 00:44:07,700 recommended to fund the budget that you just adopted is .152647 per $100 of 469 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,720 a 470 00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:22,940 service tax rate go down from last year. 471 00:44:25,210 --> 00:44:31,850 So part of that is the fact that we are shifting those funds over from the utility fund 472 00:44:31,850 --> 00:44:40,010 to support the fund balance in the debt service fund and because of that we were able to 473 00:44:40,010 --> 00:44:42,350 not love the as much on the debt service side. 474 00:44:43,190 --> 00:44:45,390 It's about $300,000. 475 00:44:45,390 --> 00:44:55,610 I understand that correctly, a balance that exists in the utility fund was moved from the utility fund into the debt service fund, 476 00:44:56,170 --> 00:44:59,910 which, and routinely, there's money moved from the utility fund into the debt server. 477 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,000 And as far as the movement of the funds from the U.S. Fund, because... 478 00:45:02,540 --> 00:45:07,780 Yes, so the debt service fund is supporting debt that we issued on behalf of the utility fund. 479 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:14,220 We have a fund balance policy equal to 10 percent of the following year's debt service, 480 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:22,080 so including the new debt that we're about to sell that component of the debt service 481 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:26,220 causes that required fund balance to go up. 482 00:45:26,820 --> 00:45:32,340 And as far as the movement of the funds from the utility fund into the debt service fund, 483 00:45:33,140 --> 00:45:37,180 that didn't cause the utility fund to go below the required reserved it. 484 00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:38,040 Not at all. 485 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:38,980 I didn't think it would. 486 00:45:39,140 --> 00:45:40,140 Thank you. 487 00:45:46,300 --> 00:45:47,600 Any other discussion or the motion? 488 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:57,320 Make a motion to adopt a debt service tax component of the tax rate of .152.647 per hundred dollars taxable value for the tax year. 489 00:45:58,020 --> 00:45:58,540 2026. 490 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:07,340 I'll second, have a motion in the second, all of those in favor, motion passes unanimously. 491 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:14,560 We go on to item C6, discussing considerable approval of the motion to set the tax rate 492 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,660 for the maintenance and operation for tax year 2026, Jennifer Brown. 493 00:46:19,580 --> 00:46:28,500 So this item is to adopt or make a motion on the actual value for the maintenance and operations tax rate. 494 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:35,580 And so in order to fund the budget that you just adopted as recommended by the City Manager, 495 00:46:36,020 --> 00:46:43,220 a maintenance and operations tax rate of 0.664978 is needed to fund that budget. 496 00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:53,380 And I believe that I did not update the rest of this agenda item correctly, so I'm going to ignore that no new revenue, 497 00:46:53,380 --> 00:46:55,180 M&O rates, that's not correct. 498 00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:01,220 So you are not permitted to set a rate higher than 0.712332. 499 00:47:02,660 --> 00:47:05,320 And so we're not recommending anything about that. 500 00:47:06,180 --> 00:47:11,220 This motion would be for the M&O rate of 0.664978. 501 00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:22,310 What do you think is pushing that M&O in your personal opinion of? 502 00:47:26,100 --> 00:47:31,140 Is it just like the cost of benefits or increasing like things like that like little examples here and there? 503 00:47:31,860 --> 00:47:40,100 So I mean, overall you all saw the increases that were in the budget this year. We are seeing cost of salary and benefits increasing. 504 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:46,980 We are seeing fuel costs increased and just in general things are more expensive today than they were last year. 505 00:48:14,780 --> 00:48:24,640 move to adopt maintenance and operations rate at 0.6649-78 per hundred dollars of taxable value for 20 for the tax year 2026. 506 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:26,260 I'll start again. 507 00:48:28,300 --> 00:48:32,680 The motion is second. All those in favor? All those against? 508 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:34,300 Nay. 509 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:36,500 Motion carries. 510 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:45,220 We're going to item C7 discussion consideration ordinance 2026-22 providing the levying collection of ad dorm taxes, 511 00:48:45,220 --> 00:48:46,860 Jennifer Brown. 512 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:58,240 So this I keep thinking this is a touch screen it's not sorry. So this 513 00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:03,040 is the ordinance to adopt the tax rate based on the two components that you all 514 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:12,960 just voted on with this 0.664978 for maintenance and operations and 0.152647 that 515 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:26,240 gives us a total tax rate of 0.817625, which as we discussed earlier was a 0.3 cent in 0.003 increase 516 00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:34,040 on the tax rate. It is above the known revenue rate, but below the voter approval rate. 517 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:40,020 There is a specific motion that needs to be made in adoption of this tax rate and it is 518 00:49:40,020 --> 00:49:52,320 I move that the property tax rate be increased by the adoption of a tax rate of 0.817625 which is effectively a 2.13% increase in the tax rate. 519 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,500 So however, makes that motion that would need to be stated that way. 520 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:04,260 In addition, we have statements included on the ordinance in the ordinance adopting the tax rate. 521 00:50:04,260 --> 00:50:11,500 that says that the tax rate for maintenance and operations is effectively being raised by a 1.54% 522 00:50:11,500 --> 00:50:18,280 and that that piece of the tax rate will raise taxes for maintenance and operations on a $100,000 523 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,600 home by approximately $8.49 compared to last year. 524 00:50:25,150 --> 00:50:28,610 And so our recommendation is for you all to 525 00:50:28,610 --> 00:50:37,790 adopt ordinance number 2026-22 to that the property tax rate be increased by the adoption 526 00:50:37,790 --> 00:50:46,290 of a tax rate of .817625, which is effectively a 2.13% increase in the tax rate consisting 527 00:50:46,290 --> 00:50:54,030 of a maintenance and operations rate of .664978 per $100 a taxable value and an interest 528 00:50:54,030 --> 00:50:59,170 and thinking fund tax rate, a point one, five, two, six, four, seven per one hundred 529 00:50:59,170 --> 00:51:00,290 of taxable value. 530 00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:13,940 Common clarification says I move that the property tax rate 531 00:51:13,940 --> 00:51:20,500 being increased by adoption of 0.8176, which is effectively a 2.13% increase. 532 00:51:24,340 --> 00:51:27,140 It's not a 2.13% 533 00:51:27,140 --> 00:51:30,900 increase. It is in some world that the state, man. 534 00:51:30,900 --> 00:51:38,880 Yes, compared to the no new revenue tax rate. Yeah, but but basically we're raising it one third of one cent 535 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,940 Which is 536 00:51:41,460 --> 00:51:45,020 Much less than two point two point so I 537 00:51:46,020 --> 00:51:48,720 Don't know if you can speak to I 538 00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:53,580 Again begin to understand most of the stuff that's a state sends down. I understand what the end result is 539 00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:59,400 But all that to say that we're not having a 2.1% increase in our tax rate 540 00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:08,440 It's this language is mandate by the state and really nothing we can do about it and I don't know if you care to explain that or not classroom we can't. 541 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,980 So I just ran the calculation real quick. 542 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:19,400 The actual tax rate compared to last year's tax rate is going up 0.368 to 7%. 543 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:25,560 But because we have to follow the truth in taxation this is the way the statement has to read. 544 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:32,720 it's all based on the no new revenue tax rate calculation, which I confused myself in the previous 545 00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:44,800 item regarding the M&O tax rate and the actual M&O tax rate, the no new revenue rate is 0.654883. 546 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:55,340 That's where it's getting the increase on the M&O piece, but the overall is based on an 80 cent 547 00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,800 tax rate, which is, I don't know, I didn't help me much, but thank you. 548 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:01,240 I know. 549 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,740 It's very confusing and I've been doing this for a long time. 550 00:53:09,860 --> 00:53:12,240 Far call when a lot is put down the state. 551 00:53:12,940 --> 00:53:15,340 They basically don't want you to get any new revenue, 552 00:53:15,740 --> 00:53:20,320 and the only way to not have a tax increase 553 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,080 is cutting services, cutting expenses, 554 00:53:23,540 --> 00:53:26,680 because the real world, those prices go up. 555 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:31,320 And you can say you're going to keep things flat. 556 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:32,560 You're not going to have an increase. 557 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,960 But their calculations are basically 558 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,360 it's based off of what we would have brought in last year. 559 00:53:40,500 --> 00:53:45,440 And the rate goes down because the praises go up. 560 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,200 And there's absolutely no way to get around the word increase 561 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,340 unless you start cutting core services. 562 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:55,420 That is correct. 563 00:53:55,420 --> 00:54:00,500 You raise one penny of new revenue, then you're raising taxes according to the state. 564 00:54:02,900 --> 00:54:10,740 The way I summed it up is that basically our SES value is relatively flat across as an aggregate, 565 00:54:11,460 --> 00:54:18,960 and their tax rate is essentially flat. So flat assess value and flat tax rate essentially, statistically. 566 00:54:27,370 --> 00:54:28,550 Anybody have the motion? 567 00:54:29,490 --> 00:54:37,290 I'll make a motion to adopt ordinance number 2026-22 for the property value tax rate being 568 00:54:37,290 --> 00:54:42,930 increased by the adoption of the tax rate of 0.817625. 569 00:54:45,050 --> 00:54:48,290 So, unfortunately, I can't take that one. 570 00:54:48,770 --> 00:54:50,470 I mean, that has to be worded by a red. 571 00:54:50,750 --> 00:54:51,070 Sorry. 572 00:54:51,630 --> 00:54:56,470 You have to read that big number that Greg was just, he did read the number, but he missed 573 00:54:56,470 --> 00:55:03,170 the percentage increase. Read that statement. Okay. I'm moved at the property tax rate being 574 00:55:03,170 --> 00:55:13,610 increased by the adoption of a tax rate of 0.18765, which is effectively a 2.13% increase 575 00:55:13,610 --> 00:55:19,150 in the tax rate. Thank you. You have a motion. Now, call upon each member. 576 00:55:19,150 --> 00:55:27,150 on a clarity there was a miss that was misread slightly said 0.187 it was 0.817. 577 00:55:27,670 --> 00:55:29,270 Oh, thank you for the important. 578 00:55:30,250 --> 00:55:31,340 All right, we're in get there. 579 00:55:33,130 --> 00:55:42,850 I move that the property tax rate be increased by the adoption of a tax rate of 0.817625, 580 00:55:42,850 --> 00:55:47,950 which is effectively a 2.13% increase in the tax rate. 581 00:55:50,740 --> 00:55:52,740 and I'll second that motion. 582 00:55:53,140 --> 00:55:54,700 But motion and seconds. 583 00:55:56,240 --> 00:55:58,040 Now call upon each member for record vote, 584 00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,880 which name is called, answer I, 585 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,160 to signify your approval, 586 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:02,600 the motion or native signify 587 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,380 to disapproval, council member Britain. 588 00:56:08,980 --> 00:56:10,560 Council member Hughes, aye. 589 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:12,720 Council member Holden, aye. 590 00:56:13,380 --> 00:56:14,300 Council member Rossi. 591 00:56:15,140 --> 00:56:15,160 Aye. 592 00:56:15,780 --> 00:56:16,620 Council member McColley. 593 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:18,060 Nay. 594 00:56:20,530 --> 00:56:21,310 Motion carries. 595 00:56:21,910 --> 00:56:27,050 We now move on to City Manager's report, Austin Blix. 596 00:56:29,260 --> 00:56:31,860 Mayor and councillors, the report is in front of you. 597 00:56:32,140 --> 00:56:34,880 Tonight, happy to answer any questions that you might have. 598 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,400 One thing that you won't see in the City Manager report, 599 00:56:38,700 --> 00:56:41,900 but we would do want to talk council about slightly sadness 600 00:56:41,900 --> 00:56:46,580 but to yesterday fire chief Mark Bitz announced his retirement 601 00:56:46,580 --> 00:56:48,540 in January of 27. 602 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:56,160 We have a few moments with them. We'll have a transition coming here shortly, but I did want to make a council aware of his impending retirement. 603 00:57:08,380 --> 00:57:12,240 I'm happy for you. I'm really sad for us. 604 00:57:13,650 --> 00:57:15,530 Do we have to accept it? 605 00:57:16,530 --> 00:57:18,330 That doesn't take constant action. Sorry. 606 00:57:22,700 --> 00:57:26,560 So the police department, you highlighted your sergeants. So I thought that was... 607 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,080 I thought you did a good job in that. That was really good. 608 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,960 there's a tremendous amount of experience and specialized training in that group of residents. 609 00:57:35,820 --> 00:57:38,910 Don't realize that or some don't, so I'm glad that you put that in there. 610 00:57:40,580 --> 00:57:46,060 Public works. So this came up. I was sent an email about 611 00:57:46,820 --> 00:57:57,060 It was kind of cute, but the water, the village drive, the water plant on village was shut down. 612 00:58:01,140 --> 00:58:06,260 And we had a new resident, which I'm so glad it was such a good question, so I figured I'd mention it. 613 00:58:06,260 --> 00:58:16,580 So we have three water plants to our working and supplying our water. 614 00:58:17,890 --> 00:58:20,100 On Seattle and on West. 615 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:25,920 So I just thought if anyone was wondering where our water is coming from, we do have 616 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,280 other water. 617 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:32,380 But anyway, so I'm really glad that she reached out and when you have questions like that, 618 00:58:32,380 --> 00:58:36,060 If something isn't clear, please feel free to reach out to us. 619 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,460 We're happy to find those answers for you. 620 00:58:38,980 --> 00:58:45,580 Also, with this recently, is it selenium, selenium, 621 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,800 exceedants in that village water treatment plant? 622 00:58:51,900 --> 00:58:55,220 Texas A&M Engineering Extension Services is coming out. 623 00:58:55,260 --> 00:58:58,620 Can you give us a little bit more information about that? 624 00:59:01,250 --> 00:59:02,330 We know they're coming. 625 00:59:02,410 --> 00:59:03,010 They're going to help us out. 626 00:59:03,010 --> 00:59:08,570 going to do some investigations with us. I don't have the specifics at this point in time. 627 00:59:09,730 --> 00:59:11,350 And does that cost the city anything? 628 00:59:11,670 --> 00:59:15,270 No, that's a free service that they offer to communities around the state. 629 00:59:16,070 --> 00:59:20,610 So they've got a lot of expertise, the whole educational program up there about that. 630 00:59:21,350 --> 00:59:27,070 They help cities out, so everybody can get a little real-world experience and help cities in a 631 00:59:27,070 --> 00:59:34,570 effective way? Well, I was really glad to see that. This is happening. I also wanted to 632 00:59:34,570 --> 00:59:40,610 recognize another strongment at Jersey Meadow. The reports that the course has generated 633 00:59:40,610 --> 00:59:47,990 3.5 million in gross. So, basically any remainder, I'm sorry, revenue for the remainder of 634 00:59:47,990 --> 00:59:54,790 the year is net profit correct. I read that right. Okay, I'm just saying that's kind of cool. 635 00:59:55,490 --> 00:59:59,570 and I saw her report on the Milky Way camps. 636 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,840 It's really a place to see that it was a success. So glad to see that. Also, I want to thank, sorry. 637 01:00:08,100 --> 01:00:12,140 I would say the camps made a profit of $6,000. 638 01:00:16,220 --> 01:00:24,180 Thank you. And Park crews, you're doing a lot of work, and if just want you to know, and what 639 01:00:24,180 --> 01:00:30,600 I know that you guys are doing a lot of work on the scenes and we really appreciate all that. 640 01:00:30,620 --> 01:00:35,180 I'll let you put into our city and I 641 01:00:37,740 --> 01:00:39,880 also want to say that I appreciate the outreach 642 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:48,880 to prospective businesses and existing businesses looking to expand along with the restaurant week campaign. 643 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:54,140 So thank you to staff for actively working to bring outside dollars into our local businesses. 644 01:01:00,190 --> 01:01:04,530 I think also the city manager report will move to the consent agenda. 645 01:01:06,190 --> 01:01:10,970 The motion to consider the approval of the minutes from last meeting. 646 01:01:11,810 --> 01:01:13,670 I'll make a motion. 647 01:01:13,950 --> 01:01:14,530 I'll second. 648 01:01:14,750 --> 01:01:15,870 The motion is second. 649 01:01:16,170 --> 01:01:17,170 All is in favor. 650 01:01:19,430 --> 01:01:20,010 Passes. 651 01:01:20,010 --> 01:01:21,490 We want to regular agenda. 652 01:01:21,990 --> 01:01:24,970 Discussion and consideration and resolution in 2638. 653 01:01:24,970 --> 01:01:30,450 accepting the proposal of group health benefit services and authorizing the city manager to 654 01:01:30,450 --> 01:01:35,110 enter into an agreement with SIGNA for medical dental and physician, Lori Capps. 655 01:01:36,210 --> 01:01:40,770 Good afternoon, Council. So in order to remain competitive with the boy group health benefits, 656 01:01:41,110 --> 01:01:46,670 we recently solicited silk proposals from vendors for group health benefits for medical dental 657 01:01:46,670 --> 01:01:51,990 and vision. Currently, we're with the United Health Care for these services, but due to 658 01:01:52,830 --> 01:01:57,670 fluctuation and rate to city opted to solicit cell proposals for qualified vendors. 659 01:01:58,490 --> 01:02:06,210 We did this in similar process in 2003, where we got RFPs for help benefit consultants and help care vendors. 660 01:02:07,750 --> 01:02:16,790 Our benefit consultant hub was responsible for these vendors, and then we got the following companies that responded to the RFP. 661 01:02:17,910 --> 01:02:24,370 So, once these RFEs are with the submissions, we're brought in, we evaluated those based 662 01:02:24,370 --> 01:02:31,630 on evaluations criteria, and then after those we are recommending to change medical to 663 01:02:31,630 --> 01:02:34,570 envision to seeing that from your own health care. 664 01:02:35,510 --> 01:02:39,610 I'm in addition to these changes, we recommend transitioning from a single medical plan, 665 01:02:39,730 --> 01:02:44,910 so currently we have one, we want transition to a dual offering, like is an invoice flexibility, 666 01:02:46,190 --> 01:02:48,950 to choose plans that meets their health care and on their needs. 667 01:02:50,290 --> 01:02:53,150 So we have two recommended plans, one is they sing a PPO plan 668 01:02:53,150 --> 01:02:55,790 and then the other one is a hadaductible plan. 669 01:02:57,370 --> 01:03:01,170 Offering both of these, it aligns to the benefits that packages with current 670 01:03:01,170 --> 01:03:05,090 market trends and it also gives employees flexibility and 671 01:03:05,090 --> 01:03:05,830 select and coverage. 672 01:03:07,130 --> 01:03:10,070 The recommendation dual option, it will help increase total 673 01:03:12,830 --> 01:03:19,150 premiums. But approximately 6.4% compared to 29.2, renewal increase proposed by United Health Care. 674 01:03:20,730 --> 01:03:25,190 So we're also recommending to change dental and vision insurance to United Health Care as well. 675 01:03:26,750 --> 01:03:35,770 Dental had a approximately 3% increase. Vision was a 22% decrease. In addition to this, 676 01:03:35,770 --> 01:03:40,870 is off, so offering $10,000 in wellness dollars to the city, and also the $5,000 677 01:03:40,870 --> 01:03:44,530 technology and communication allowance as well, which will help cover some of those costs. 678 01:03:45,830 --> 01:03:50,630 Overall, we'll save approximately $82,000 dollars across all funds for the upcoming fiscal 679 01:03:50,630 --> 01:03:51,050 year. 680 01:03:52,490 --> 01:03:57,890 Based upon this, based upon the review, the staff and hub, international, up-and-fifth consultant, 681 01:03:58,950 --> 01:04:03,930 the SINGA proposal provides the best overall value balancing competitive benefits, employee 682 01:04:03,930 --> 01:04:06,950 each voice provider access and long-term financial stability. 683 01:04:07,970 --> 01:04:09,790 If you have any questions, please let me know. 684 01:04:10,530 --> 01:04:13,550 Really quick before we get into it. 685 01:04:14,110 --> 01:04:17,330 On the resolution, on page 330, 686 01:04:19,650 --> 01:04:23,010 so where it says staff recommends that the proposal from 687 01:04:23,010 --> 01:04:27,270 United Health Care has that been updated to say Signa, 688 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:32,800 I'll look at it right now. 689 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:33,660 I'll make sure it's correct. 690 01:04:36,300 --> 01:04:42,420 And just to clarify, that's just the wear as clause, that the section 1 and section 2 does say signify. 691 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:45,460 Am I looking at the wrong one? 692 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:50,220 No, the wear as does incorrectly reverence hub. 693 01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,200 Okay, I just want to make sure we have the right one that's signing. 694 01:04:57,850 --> 01:05:05,970 And Austin, in this packet on the healthcare, isn't that one of the adjustments that you made to reduce? 695 01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:07,410 Yes, sir. 696 01:05:11,370 --> 01:05:22,770 What's our total premium cost for health if you have health insurance and dental and stuff on the health insurance side? Do you have an annual cost? 697 01:05:23,130 --> 01:05:27,370 Total like with employee contribution in city contribution or 698 01:05:28,130 --> 01:05:32,390 Just total premiums regardless of where we're. 699 01:05:32,670 --> 01:05:33,930 I can put that real quick for 700 01:05:41,060 --> 01:05:42,300 you. Maybe. 701 01:05:53,340 --> 01:06:00,180 So total health insurance is about 1.7 million for just the health insurance. 702 01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:11,520 Let me employ you, so we just at 120, roughly 115 approximately. 703 01:06:11,780 --> 01:06:12,400 But 115. 704 01:06:20,420 --> 01:06:21,800 Did you have to shop around for that? 705 01:06:22,100 --> 01:06:24,280 Were you the one shopping around for the health insurance? 706 01:06:24,300 --> 01:06:25,000 How does that go? 707 01:06:25,140 --> 01:06:26,580 Our benefit consultant does. 708 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:30,120 So the process is we sent out for RFP. 709 01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:31,220 Those results come back. 710 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,160 We evaluate and then based on what they send us, 711 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:38,140 go back out and negotiate and that's how we get our final rates. 712 01:06:39,940 --> 01:06:43,840 Now this is really probably you've done question, but is it similar where you have to go 713 01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:49,800 for like a lowest bitter type of thing or is this something that you kind of go side-by-side 714 01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:51,700 with all of them and then this is your recommendation. 715 01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:07,690 How long have we been with United 716 01:07:07,690 --> 01:07:12,950 Health Care? Two years. Have we had sign up during your term? No sir. 717 01:07:20,390 --> 01:07:21,430 Is all of it a two-year 718 01:07:21,430 --> 01:07:26,250 guarantee. No, so our medical rates will be a one year and then our vision 719 01:07:26,250 --> 01:07:29,330 and dental is a two year term. 720 01:07:41,630 --> 01:07:45,670 Austin, I'm sorry. this has a, has you 721 01:07:45,670 --> 01:07:54,260 united cheer, premium loss ratio with us at all, and what were we? We were, I 722 01:07:54,260 --> 01:07:58,100 have to look it up, but it was over a hundred, and a hundred and a-one. Don't 723 01:07:58,100 --> 01:08:02,140 forget me on that exact, but it was, we have a high loss ratio. I'm sorry, a hundred 724 01:08:02,140 --> 01:08:06,300 18. Don't put me on that exact number. It was over 100. I can look at it. But it's 725 01:08:06,300 --> 01:08:10,220 we have a high loss ratio. So we're probably experiencing some market conditions 726 01:08:10,220 --> 01:08:14,120 and some plan or some census conditions as well. 727 01:08:28,580 --> 01:08:30,620 Yes. Okay. There's another discussion on your motion. 728 01:08:33,430 --> 01:08:39,170 I'll make a motion to approve resolution 2026-38. 729 01:08:40,930 --> 01:08:42,570 Oh, second. Have a motion. 730 01:08:42,570 --> 01:08:46,730 in a second, all those in favor, most of the classes. 731 01:08:47,510 --> 01:08:49,630 We've got a regular agenda item G2, 732 01:08:49,630 --> 01:08:53,490 discussion and possible action regarding public 733 01:08:53,490 --> 01:08:55,110 open meetings act. 734 01:08:55,390 --> 01:08:56,670 The text is what it means act. 735 01:08:57,030 --> 01:08:58,150 Council member Rossi. 736 01:08:58,610 --> 01:09:00,210 OK, give me a second when you get to it. 737 01:09:10,690 --> 01:09:11,010 OK. 738 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:21,740 So I'll go and read it, I guess. 739 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:22,720 Do you guys need me read it? 740 01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:23,160 Or do you do? 741 01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:24,940 OK, I'll just read it. 742 01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:25,500 All right. 743 01:09:25,500 --> 01:09:34,860 Texas government code establishes the requirements governing meetings, do you have a summary? 744 01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,640 Yeah, that would be even better, thank you. 745 01:09:38,300 --> 01:09:42,940 Okay, so I request these exhibits because Tom affects how all of us conduct city business, 746 01:09:42,980 --> 01:09:47,700 rather than relying on anyone's interpretation, including mine, I thought it would be helpful to 747 01:09:47,700 --> 01:09:55,140 have the actual law and guidance in the records, so council and the public can see what the rules are. 748 01:09:55,500 --> 01:09:56,500 So, 749 01:09:58,700 --> 01:10:27,270 so what I did was I submitted exhibits to Tommy, our city attorney, he looked over it and to make sure that everything was accurate and over to Courtney, so I don't know how you want me to 750 01:10:27,270 --> 01:10:33,590 everything. What I try to do is, and I'm a former teacher, so I try to look at things 751 01:10:33,590 --> 01:10:38,710 how, how is it that I would want to receive information, how would anyone want to receive information. 752 01:10:39,370 --> 01:10:47,090 So first I put in a little overview of it. I understand that we all signed a certificate if you 753 01:10:47,090 --> 01:10:57,250 would say, hey, we did the training, we understand Toma, and what I realized talking to 754 01:10:57,250 --> 01:11:03,830 since I've been on council talking to people in the community and hearing a lot of questions. 755 01:11:04,450 --> 01:11:10,370 I realize that a lot of people don't know why we do things the way we do up here. 756 01:11:11,350 --> 01:11:14,170 And so, and a lot of it has to do with the Texas Open Meetings Act. 757 01:11:14,650 --> 01:11:19,430 And so, I thought it was only fitting to put it on the agenda because that way we can all talk about it. 758 01:11:19,430 --> 01:11:22,430 And I also put like frequently asked questions, 759 01:11:22,590 --> 01:11:25,730 so things have heard people ask me in there. 760 01:11:26,050 --> 01:11:28,510 And a little reference guide, if you want to look them up, 761 01:11:29,330 --> 01:11:32,670 and TML, which is text-manusmalade guidance, 762 01:11:33,550 --> 01:11:38,270 is sort of, once it's where I go to get a lot of information, 763 01:11:38,490 --> 01:11:42,370 we receive emails from them, we go to things with them. 764 01:11:42,570 --> 01:11:43,790 So anyway, 765 01:11:47,580 --> 01:11:50,340 I just think that it's never a bad thing 766 01:11:50,340 --> 01:11:57,700 to be reminded what we're doing and why we're doing things in general. 767 01:12:00,140 --> 01:12:00,520 Yeah, coming. 768 01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:01,640 I think it's good information. 769 01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:07,700 And I think the public, the more information we can get, the public, is very beneficial. 770 01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:13,960 Because sometimes it looks like we do things haphazardly, very unorthodox. 771 01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:20,340 We're somewhat dismissive, we're all those things that we know we aren't. 772 01:12:20,340 --> 01:12:39,000 But perhaps, I think there's two things I think I'd like you to address, however, I'd also like to say, perhaps this handout, this exhibit B, at a few city council meetings so that people understand what we're doing and how we're doing it. 773 01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:44,020 And since they've frequently asked questions about the council meetings, it'd be a great 774 01:12:44,020 --> 01:12:48,760 handout along with the agenda perhaps at the next couple meetings so that people have 775 01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:49,160 a reference. 776 01:12:50,580 --> 01:12:56,080 But one of the criticisms we hear a lot about is executive session and public comment. 777 01:12:56,500 --> 01:13:00,300 People will stand up and ask questions and we don't answer. 778 01:13:00,940 --> 01:13:06,640 Or we go in an executive session for a specific reason, do you want to talk about that at all? 779 01:13:06,900 --> 01:13:07,700 Or do you want? 780 01:13:07,700 --> 01:13:10,720 Well, Tommy is definitely an expert, so. 781 01:13:13,620 --> 01:13:20,220 So I can, I mean, maybe it's easier just someone's signal when I should stop talking about 782 01:13:20,220 --> 01:13:20,820 open meetings. 783 01:13:23,020 --> 01:13:29,120 And this, going back to the budget item, you know, this is the time of year where I 784 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:34,140 sit in a lot of meetings and I apologize on behalf of the legislature for making your 785 01:13:34,140 --> 01:13:41,020 ridiculous things that happen. I mentioned also like the problem in that statement is the word 786 01:13:41,020 --> 01:13:46,560 rate because it's not a rate to rate percent increase and there's a lot of problems in 787 01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:55,380 health calculated but open meetings is another one of those issues where in addressing, I mean, 788 01:13:55,560 --> 01:14:03,220 transparency, open meetings is incredibly important but in addressing it, the great irony 789 01:14:03,220 --> 01:14:06,480 is, the legislature has made it very difficult 790 01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:11,160 if not practically impossible to do what a lot of folks expect, 791 01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,140 which is, I'm going to show up at a city council meeting. 792 01:14:14,220 --> 01:14:15,180 I'm going to ask a question. 793 01:14:17,110 --> 01:14:18,270 I want that question to be answered. 794 01:14:19,770 --> 01:14:23,030 And 90% of the meetings I sit in, the people that are up 795 01:14:23,030 --> 01:14:25,610 on the dice, they want more than anything to answer 796 01:14:25,610 --> 01:14:28,070 that question right there on the spot and they can't. 797 01:14:28,330 --> 01:14:30,430 And it's open meetings that prevent some from doing that, 798 01:14:30,990 --> 01:14:34,050 because because in the past there have been abuses of them. 799 01:14:34,050 --> 01:14:39,710 And so they require you list the specific subject matter on the agenda before you discuss it. 800 01:14:40,350 --> 01:14:46,490 And that makes procedurally the public comment thing extremely difficult. 801 01:14:48,050 --> 01:14:50,990 And, you know, coincidentally there have even been situations, I was one recently, 802 01:14:52,890 --> 01:14:58,230 where when some members of the public were asking questions and one council member said, 803 01:14:58,490 --> 01:14:59,070 well, you know what? 804 01:15:00,210 --> 01:15:08,110 Take off my council member had, and I'm going to put all my public comment hat, and I'm going to go out and I'm going to make a statement under public comment as a member of the public. 805 01:15:08,310 --> 01:15:24,050 And answer all those questions. And the court said, no, you can't do that. You don't get just like a judge. Can't take off their robe. They're always a judge. Same thing with city council members. You don't get to pick and choose. Otherwise it'd be super easy to frustrate the whole purpose of the open meeting, exact. 806 01:15:25,670 --> 01:15:27,610 What was the other executive session? 807 01:15:28,230 --> 01:15:30,510 I mean, generally speaking, executive session, 808 01:15:30,650 --> 01:15:35,430 the kind of the high level basis for all of the exceptions, 809 01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,320 is, well, there's one, there's protection 810 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:41,420 of attorney client privilege. 811 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:45,900 And it's important to realize, you know, everyone thinks, 812 01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,900 well, that's protecting a council member, 813 01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:53,700 or a person's privilege, like it's an individual thing. 814 01:15:53,700 --> 01:15:58,880 that's protecting the city's privilege because in protecting the city's privilege you protect 815 01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:04,680 the taxpayers taxes that get paid to the city and that's that comes directly from the Texas 816 01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:12,720 Supreme Court which is why not just they not just put a high premium on the importance of 817 01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:17,920 attorney client privilege on anything I mean that's that's goes back 200 years in case of 818 01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:25,580 But in the government context, it has an even more sacrosanct premium attached to it, because 819 01:16:25,580 --> 01:16:30,860 the government's privilege is the taxpayers' privilege, and that means it's every citizen's 820 01:16:30,860 --> 01:16:31,200 privilege. 821 01:16:32,900 --> 01:16:37,500 So that's the, you know, when we're in an executive session under attorney client, that's 822 01:16:37,500 --> 01:16:38,480 the basis for that. 823 01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:44,760 There's a basis for personnel, which is to protect public officials and employees. 824 01:16:46,380 --> 01:16:58,700 And that's for the public official or employee, just, you know, it's a public official or employee that's being discussed as the discussion whether they want to bring it out in the open or let them do it in the executive session. 825 01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:02,240 It's actually not councils privilege to exercise. 826 01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:13,900 And so it's that when they're in executive session under that, that's why they're there because the person that's being discussed would rather, you know, whatever the issue is not be aired. 827 01:17:13,900 --> 01:17:19,520 all the other privileges generally relate to negotiations. 828 01:17:20,540 --> 01:17:27,900 So there's economic development negotiations, there is real property negotiations, and 829 01:17:27,900 --> 01:17:34,420 that same purpose with, that I mentioned with what gets attached to attorney client, 830 01:17:34,480 --> 01:17:40,330 because it protects the interest of the taxpayers, protecting the city's position in 831 01:17:40,330 --> 01:17:45,630 association protects the taxpayer dollars that are used ultimately in that negotiation. 832 01:17:46,490 --> 01:17:49,130 And so that's kind of the source for all of the, you know, really three categories, 833 01:17:49,730 --> 01:17:51,330 personnel attorney client, negotiations. 834 01:17:52,430 --> 01:17:57,630 So we use executive session if we're negotiating a real estate transaction and we're talking 835 01:17:57,630 --> 01:18:03,110 about terms and price and the details of that transaction, if there's a lawsuit and we're 836 01:18:03,110 --> 01:18:07,270 discussing a settlement that needs to be confidential, that's an executive session. 837 01:18:07,270 --> 01:18:14,290 So, it's not a desire not to be transparent, it's kind of to what time it says, it's to protect the city's interest. 838 01:18:15,510 --> 01:18:17,510 So, but I think those are very good points. 839 01:18:17,750 --> 01:18:30,990 I have for what it's worth, I've had situations where we've had a one entity that insisted on doing the RFP scoring process in a public meeting. 840 01:18:30,990 --> 01:18:38,050 And because they did it in a public meeting, it made the negotiation, they just completely 841 01:18:38,050 --> 01:18:39,410 frustrated it. 842 01:18:39,670 --> 01:18:46,550 I mean, they had every bid, had every other bidders, number, against it, they had all 843 01:18:46,550 --> 01:18:49,890 their weaknesses, strong suits, and so when they finally selected someone, it was, and 844 01:18:49,890 --> 01:18:58,110 that's one reason they could have arguably done that in an executive session because of 845 01:18:58,110 --> 01:18:58,830 what was being discussed. 846 01:18:58,830 --> 01:19:07,190 they feel comfortable with it, and that is the purpose, it's there they end up selecting a really 847 01:19:07,190 --> 01:19:10,110 good contractor for an extremely high price. 848 01:19:12,860 --> 01:19:16,100 So that also just to add to the council members 849 01:19:16,100 --> 01:19:23,520 or anyone really for that matter, excuse me, in the executive session is not to discuss those 850 01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:29,220 matters outside of executive session. Yeah, in fact that's the highest penalty in open meetings, 851 01:19:29,220 --> 01:19:31,640 It's revealing the contents of executive session. 852 01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:35,160 It's a class B, misdemeanor, I think. 853 01:19:36,860 --> 01:19:39,620 That's the, it's the highest criminal penalty attached. 854 01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:46,260 And I say this all the time, because we can talk about what 855 01:19:46,260 --> 01:19:47,480 the fine levels are. 856 01:19:47,620 --> 01:19:50,540 I'm up to five years in prison or something like that. 857 01:19:51,020 --> 01:19:53,180 No one is ever gone to jail for open meetings, violations. 858 01:19:53,940 --> 01:19:56,060 There are some that probably should have. 859 01:19:56,060 --> 01:20:01,140 But all generally it is a hefty fine. 860 01:20:01,260 --> 01:20:03,960 I don't know if anyone that wouldn't gladly pay 861 01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:06,980 every last dollar of that fine to avoid the news article 862 01:20:06,980 --> 01:20:09,920 that comes out the day those charges are announced 863 01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:15,280 because that article is always written 864 01:20:15,980 --> 01:20:19,360 not from a, it was just a technical violation of the open meeting 865 01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,060 that it is written as, this is public corruption 866 01:20:22,060 --> 01:20:24,100 at its finest regardless of what was happened 867 01:20:24,100 --> 01:20:29,080 And half the time those issues are not rampant corruption. 868 01:20:29,420 --> 01:20:36,380 They are people just being ignorant of maybe a specific requirement under open meetings or a little bit loose with some of the processes. 869 01:20:37,580 --> 01:20:44,580 So it's that the news article is what I always worry about the most, because that's the most unforgiving thing. 870 01:20:48,630 --> 01:20:50,430 What was the other one you had? Was that the one? 871 01:20:52,730 --> 01:20:53,530 Okay, 872 01:20:55,610 --> 01:21:03,970 so I have the first question here is why are council meeting, why are council meeting agendas posted? 873 01:21:05,170 --> 01:21:10,650 And I gave an answer and that kind of also sort of falls into that as well. 874 01:21:12,210 --> 01:21:21,610 The quorum piece could you kind of give an overview about what that agendas for all the things about the agendas so we can all 875 01:21:21,610 --> 01:21:31,810 Yeah, so basically open meetings requires you, the simplest way to put it is the legislature 876 01:21:31,810 --> 01:21:37,490 requires that you tell people when you're going to meet, what you're going to talk about 877 01:21:37,490 --> 01:21:41,730 and then when you meet, they want you to only talk about those things. 878 01:21:42,030 --> 01:21:44,730 That's time, place, subject matter, discussion. 879 01:21:45,530 --> 01:21:47,510 That's all that's required to be on the agenda. 880 01:21:50,230 --> 01:21:57,570 But that is a lot, and the reason, of course, the purpose is, it's not a lot, it's 881 01:21:57,570 --> 01:22:00,190 three, you know, time-place subject matter. 882 01:22:00,530 --> 01:22:07,810 But the purpose for all of that is because the citizens have a right to know, the subject 883 01:22:07,810 --> 01:22:11,360 matter that's being discussed, before it's being discussed, and the legislature has put the 884 01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:19,700 I already on the right to know rather than the right to answer questions and resolve issues 885 01:22:19,700 --> 01:22:24,480 quickly, which is that's the tension that we come into with the, you know, we have a question 886 01:22:24,480 --> 01:22:25,240 in public comment. 887 01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:29,500 We really want to answer, it's not posted on the agenda, it's not, it's not being answered 888 01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:34,620 because the city can't, it's not being answered because the legislature says the city 889 01:22:35,440 --> 01:22:35,920 can't. 890 01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:37,500 At least not in that meeting. 891 01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:40,200 We should do a pretty good job. 892 01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:42,440 Our generous are very detailed. 893 01:22:42,820 --> 01:22:46,760 They describe exactly what we are interested in doing. 894 01:22:49,220 --> 01:22:56,100 No secret of a fan of efficiency and is having a goal and a direction we're headed. 895 01:22:56,980 --> 01:22:57,660 I read this agenda. 896 01:22:57,860 --> 01:23:03,680 I done a chat a little bit with Connie and have a direction that I think going ahead with it. 897 01:23:04,420 --> 01:23:09,440 There's nothing on the item that says that we are going to adopt a resolution tonight. 898 01:23:09,940 --> 01:23:11,600 So we're not going to be adopting a resolution. 899 01:23:12,380 --> 01:23:22,740 I have a draft for us to discuss and then it will be next month's agenda to actually adopt it. 900 01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:29,740 Because I don't want to characterize why you brought this up because I think it was for a lot of different reasons in talking with you. 901 01:23:31,060 --> 01:23:37,360 And, but a big part of it was recently the town hall event, which, you know, you 902 01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:44,250 know, I discussed not trying to rehash at all how the agenda was or wasn't posted. 903 01:23:45,790 --> 01:23:51,970 But it brought up some consideration of how do we go forward and addressing the matter. 904 01:23:52,470 --> 01:23:57,710 Even when you cancel my argument, he's not here, this is not at all for a specific council member. 905 01:23:57,710 --> 01:24:05,910 it just brought up a fact that a council member can reserve a space using their position 906 01:24:05,910 --> 01:24:12,610 at no cost to them. And that space could be used for a lot of different things. It's supposed 907 01:24:12,610 --> 01:24:22,270 to be for their purposes and elected official. They can also choose to pay for it and use it 908 01:24:22,270 --> 01:24:26,530 or campaign purpose, or even city purpose, they just pay for it. 909 01:24:28,210 --> 01:24:33,090 But I wrote up a resolution that you've gotten for you to summarize it. 910 01:24:33,210 --> 01:24:39,510 It basically has a narrowly focused trigger that when using the position of elected official 911 01:24:39,510 --> 01:24:45,870 to rent a space, such as the Civic Center or the golf course or somewhere, and the event 912 01:24:45,870 --> 01:24:50,950 is open to the public, then it is the responsibility of the Council Mayor to initiate a public 913 01:24:50,950 --> 01:24:59,170 posting the event through the city secretary that meeting must be posted so that everyone can 914 01:24:59,170 --> 01:25:09,190 attend. The problem right now is if you have an event but you don't post that event on the 915 01:25:09,190 --> 01:25:15,630 city's website, on the city's building, then you are prohibiting member other members of the council 916 01:25:15,630 --> 01:25:21,890 from attending that meeting and hearing comments from the citizens and so if we're going to try 917 01:25:21,890 --> 01:25:30,130 to promote the best transparency and open communication and hearing everyone then everyone should be 918 01:25:30,130 --> 01:25:37,310 allowed to attend. This does not exempt or preclude any requirement of the Texas Meet Open Meetings Act 919 01:25:37,310 --> 01:25:43,350 and if a council member wanted to they could just pay the reservation and not post as long as 920 01:25:43,350 --> 01:25:45,830 there's no violation of the Texas meeting act, 921 01:25:45,870 --> 01:25:46,750 which is what occurred. 922 01:25:47,550 --> 01:25:49,590 And there was no violation of the Texas 923 01:25:49,590 --> 01:25:51,230 of the meeting act at all, 924 01:25:51,810 --> 01:25:54,410 but thinking future councils down the road, 925 01:25:54,610 --> 01:25:56,270 what's good policy to have, 926 01:25:56,550 --> 01:25:59,190 good policy would be that if you're using your position, 927 01:25:59,430 --> 01:26:02,270 you post it so that everyone can be there. 928 01:26:05,290 --> 01:26:08,290 So, and I've just read this, 929 01:26:08,970 --> 01:26:11,690 but it would still have to go through your review, though. 930 01:26:11,750 --> 01:26:13,070 You don't, well, I just say, 931 01:26:13,070 --> 01:26:15,010 we're not, I don't have any issue with this. 932 01:26:15,010 --> 01:26:19,810 And one, I think, it's generally just a good policy. 933 01:26:21,170 --> 01:26:24,970 Any open meetings question that I ever get that's like, should we post an agenda? 934 01:26:25,770 --> 01:26:26,570 There are certain times. 935 01:26:26,730 --> 01:26:30,030 I've been like, no, you don't need to post an agenda for a Super Bowl party. 936 01:26:30,550 --> 01:26:31,350 And I've gotten that question. 937 01:26:31,490 --> 01:26:34,810 I've gotten that question this year, not for anyone. 938 01:26:38,190 --> 01:26:41,110 But the answer is almost always, why not? 939 01:26:41,290 --> 01:26:43,830 It's right up there with like, do I need to take the oath of office? 940 01:26:43,830 --> 01:26:45,170 Like, yeah, why not? 941 01:26:45,490 --> 01:26:47,670 It's you don't ever get in trouble for too much notice, 942 01:26:47,830 --> 01:26:49,650 and you don't ever get in trouble for too many others. 943 01:26:52,330 --> 01:26:58,570 And it covers the posted agenda, covers it all issues. 944 01:27:00,130 --> 01:27:01,970 And which is something I know there's a lot of confusion 945 01:27:01,970 --> 01:27:03,750 about, like notice of possible quorum, 946 01:27:03,790 --> 01:27:05,110 and things like that to get posted. 947 01:27:05,750 --> 01:27:08,370 It's only the agenda that covers all issues. 948 01:27:09,310 --> 01:27:12,050 So if you know that there may be a quorum, 949 01:27:12,370 --> 01:27:13,570 and you're going to be discussing this in business, 950 01:27:13,570 --> 01:27:14,770 I think it's just good practice. 951 01:27:15,910 --> 01:27:22,450 I don't, for what it's worth, I absolutely don't think any of that was what was going on 952 01:27:22,450 --> 01:27:29,870 with that brought all this up. In fact, and I will say, the gathering issue related to open meetings 953 01:27:29,870 --> 01:27:35,690 is one of the most confusing issues with open meetings, because no one believes it, but it's 954 01:27:35,690 --> 01:27:40,010 like just listening to counts. Like you've done at little all council members could just 955 01:27:40,010 --> 01:27:47,410 it in the same room quietly, not saying anything, anyone and have a third party talk at them. 956 01:27:47,650 --> 01:27:48,250 And that counts. 957 01:27:48,330 --> 01:27:53,050 And the reason is, because when the issue, the legislature was trying to address when they 958 01:27:53,050 --> 01:27:59,910 wrote it, was staff briefings, and that's why they wrote this language, and again, one of 959 01:27:59,910 --> 01:28:06,470 those issues where they fixed one problem and made a whole bunch of other problems, or at least 960 01:28:06,470 --> 01:28:09,970 issues that were harder to navigate because now we're 961 01:28:09,970 --> 01:28:11,950 roping on a whole bunch of stuff. 962 01:28:13,030 --> 01:28:15,990 But the primary issue is that if it's city hall, 963 01:28:16,690 --> 01:28:18,810 that's kind of when you can trigger more easily 964 01:28:18,810 --> 01:28:20,750 the gatherings definition. 965 01:28:21,970 --> 01:28:25,510 And so just essentially the way I read this is, 966 01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,820 if we're going to reserve space, let's city secretary 967 01:28:29,820 --> 01:28:32,500 know so we can post notice and we're all going to go. 968 01:28:33,260 --> 01:28:44,660 So, for example, if I wanted to have a gathering here and I posted could I just put on the agenda 969 01:28:45,940 --> 01:28:52,420 discussion regarding Jersey Village, like how specific or not specific does the item need to be? 970 01:28:52,900 --> 01:28:56,300 I don't think you can put, I don't think in a gen item can be. 971 01:28:56,360 --> 01:29:00,400 I mean there are some people that take the view that the word budget means you can talk about anything 972 01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:09,180 that the city does. And I know there is some validity to that. It's anything related to the 973 01:29:09,180 --> 01:29:14,820 budget that the city does. But the idea being, yeah, the agenda item is city that is any 974 01:29:14,820 --> 01:29:20,180 in all Jersey Village city business. But is that specifically detailed enough to satisfy the subject 975 01:29:20,180 --> 01:29:28,600 matter, description requirement? I don't think it is. But I have language I put on other types of events 976 01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,160 where you just, I mean, what are the questions? 977 01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,280 Everyone knows what questions get brought up the most. 978 01:29:34,700 --> 01:29:37,760 And you can put those in a, in a notice that says, 979 01:29:37,780 --> 01:29:39,640 these are the types of topics that are going to be, 980 01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:40,580 and you may get a nod ball. 981 01:29:40,740 --> 01:29:42,640 It's not on that list. 982 01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:45,080 And if that comes up, like, you know, 983 01:29:45,780 --> 01:29:47,100 that's a unposting subject matter. 984 01:29:47,860 --> 01:29:49,060 So you have a half a pass on that, 985 01:29:49,380 --> 01:29:51,440 but you can cover 99% of them. 986 01:29:52,300 --> 01:29:53,960 And for what it's worth, there are some cities 987 01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:59,880 to have a policy, Austin is one and granted. 988 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:09,280 This is, this may be a little bit of, you know, a perfect example of, like, a government 989 01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:14,520 entity, like, well, we need to put a process in place that just completely beats the whole thing 990 01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:25,940 down. But it definitely satisfies the open meetings. Anyone that wants to attend a council gathering 991 01:30:25,940 --> 01:30:33,830 where they're going to ask questions is required email essentially an RSVP to the city one week 992 01:30:35,050 --> 01:30:39,490 before and the question that they're going to ask and then the city when they post the agenda 993 01:30:39,490 --> 01:30:45,570 they go the agenda is and then they attach every email that they receive as the subject 994 01:30:45,570 --> 01:30:51,430 matter of what's going to be discussed and so people show up and that's how they satisfy 995 01:30:51,430 --> 01:30:53,210 Open meetings. 996 01:30:53,670 --> 01:30:58,890 Well, and they just pass legislation last year, I think, on the timing when that agenda 997 01:30:58,890 --> 01:31:01,190 posts, Courtney, what is the timing? 998 01:31:01,990 --> 01:31:05,170 It's three business days before the meeting. 999 01:31:06,350 --> 01:31:09,910 So to calculate that today, we meet on Tuesday. 1000 01:31:10,670 --> 01:31:14,090 The three business days are Monday, Friday, Thursday. 1001 01:31:14,590 --> 01:31:17,110 So we have to post no later than Wednesday. 1002 01:31:17,110 --> 01:31:19,850 because you have to have those three business days 1003 01:31:19,850 --> 01:31:21,610 between your posting and the meeting. 1004 01:31:23,110 --> 01:31:25,830 A week's note, a week's note is for that. 1005 01:31:26,270 --> 01:31:27,230 You mentioned gatherings, 1006 01:31:27,770 --> 01:31:29,870 I mentioned it in here as well in my questions. 1007 01:31:31,770 --> 01:31:35,230 If all council ends up at a July 4th celebration, 1008 01:31:35,790 --> 01:31:37,970 that's not the same, that does not require any. 1009 01:31:38,330 --> 01:31:39,370 It's absolutely not the same. 1010 01:31:39,570 --> 01:31:41,370 And that's, there's a whole bunch of exceptions, 1011 01:31:42,710 --> 01:31:46,630 educational seminars, we all used to go to Barbie Freeman 1012 01:31:46,630 --> 01:31:56,190 House for Republican events every quarter, the entire council attended because it was a county 1013 01:31:56,190 --> 01:31:57,630 event that happened often. 1014 01:31:57,790 --> 01:31:58,370 And that's the thing. 1015 01:31:58,450 --> 01:32:04,930 If the event is being held by someone else and whatever city business is brought up is incidental 1016 01:32:04,930 --> 01:32:05,430 to the event. 1017 01:32:06,230 --> 01:32:08,830 That's the key word is incidental to the event. 1018 01:32:08,930 --> 01:32:12,850 The event is not being held for the core purpose of discussing whatever was brought up. 1019 01:32:12,850 --> 01:32:17,210 then it is not covered by open meetings. 1020 01:32:17,990 --> 01:32:20,830 Now that doesn't mean you can make it covered by open meetings 1021 01:32:20,830 --> 01:32:23,450 by entering into a huge discussion on that incidental 1022 01:32:23,450 --> 01:32:25,050 comment when it gets brought up. 1023 01:32:25,530 --> 01:32:28,830 But that's the trigger word is incidental to the event. 1024 01:32:31,310 --> 01:32:34,350 You mentioned a agenda versus posting a core may meet. 1025 01:32:35,410 --> 01:32:38,990 There's not my intent with this to cause them to post a full agenda. 1026 01:32:43,010 --> 01:32:46,210 Do you want my general thoughts on notice a core possible core? 1027 01:32:46,210 --> 01:32:51,550 And so one thing that you said there was we're certainly 1028 01:32:51,550 --> 01:32:54,150 under the impression that it counts in our holds and event, 1029 01:32:55,630 --> 01:32:58,810 that if a quorum appeared, they're talking about city business, 1030 01:32:58,930 --> 01:33:00,510 that city business had to stop. 1031 01:33:03,130 --> 01:33:07,910 Can we just posting counsel that a quorum may meet enough? 1032 01:33:09,210 --> 01:33:12,070 And the practice, and this is one of those, you know, 1033 01:33:12,290 --> 01:33:14,950 when the law changes under open meetings, 1034 01:33:14,950 --> 01:33:21,050 There are certain practices everyone keeps in place and they still do and I don't know this for a fact 1035 01:33:21,050 --> 01:33:30,110 I'm guessing a little bit the the walking quorum language in open meetings used to be as a as one appellate or as the 1036 01:33:30,530 --> 01:33:32,050 Court of Criminal Appeal said 1037 01:33:33,190 --> 01:33:36,070 Hopelessly unconstitutionally vague and 1038 01:33:36,070 --> 01:33:42,070 It the language was you can't conspire to circumvent the open meetings act, which is like 1039 01:33:42,070 --> 01:33:44,690 Just it's just very very broad 1040 01:33:46,210 --> 01:33:52,990 And the idea was, if we post a notice of course possible quorum, it's very hard to argue 1041 01:33:52,990 --> 01:33:57,830 that we're conspiring to circumvent the act, if we're posting a notice that we all may 1042 01:33:57,830 --> 01:34:00,350 be in the same place and we accidentally talk about something. 1043 01:34:00,930 --> 01:34:06,270 I'm guessing that's kind of why that it bullet proofs the old language of walking quorum 1044 01:34:06,270 --> 01:34:06,750 a little bit. 1045 01:34:06,990 --> 01:34:12,470 Walking quorum has completely been redone and it doesn't, it wouldn't really address any 1046 01:34:12,470 --> 01:34:19,790 that. But I still have never recommended that anyone's stopped doing it and no one actually wants 1047 01:34:19,790 --> 01:34:25,530 to stop doing it because it just adds another layer of transparency just to let everyone know 1048 01:34:25,530 --> 01:34:29,770 that there's going to be, you know, and frankly it's helpful to the council members, the council 1049 01:34:29,770 --> 01:34:33,090 would may find out, oh, there's going to be some other council members here, we need to make sure 1050 01:34:33,090 --> 01:34:33,890 that 1051 01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:40,200 I'm posting this as helpful to the public because we all have our little niches of people that 1052 01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:42,820 we know, but everyone knows the city website. 1053 01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:47,040 And so by posting it, gets it out to more people. 1054 01:34:48,770 --> 01:34:51,290 So you mentioned walking quorum. 1055 01:34:51,630 --> 01:34:54,490 There's a lot of great area there, in my opinion. 1056 01:34:56,350 --> 01:34:59,110 But two council members simply talking to each other 1057 01:34:59,110 --> 01:35:01,250 is not considered a walking quorum. 1058 01:35:03,110 --> 01:35:04,290 OK, I just want to. 1059 01:35:05,470 --> 01:35:06,290 A walking quorum. 1060 01:35:06,430 --> 01:35:08,590 Give us some examples of walking quorum. 1061 01:35:08,590 --> 01:35:14,330 I'm walking, so we'll start off with two council members talking together and walking 1062 01:35:14,330 --> 01:35:18,370 corpsmen to open meetings was essentially redefined after it was held to be hopelessly 1063 01:35:18,370 --> 01:35:18,830 vague. 1064 01:35:19,030 --> 01:35:25,830 It was redefined to add more specificity to each of the steps and so it is a communication 1065 01:35:25,830 --> 01:35:31,950 between one council member intentionally communicating with another council member knowingly 1066 01:35:32,780 --> 01:35:35,430 that that communication will result in a corps. 1067 01:35:35,430 --> 01:35:39,110 So, two council members talking, no issue. 1068 01:35:40,470 --> 01:35:44,130 One council member then goes to a third person 1069 01:35:45,010 --> 01:35:47,710 and talks to that third person about the issue. 1070 01:35:48,870 --> 01:35:52,070 The open meetings violation, I mean, of course, 1071 01:35:52,870 --> 01:35:58,260 backing up open meetings means what the DA thinks it means. 1072 01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:01,840 That's kind of the, I don't know if it's an old joke, 1073 01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,740 But it's certain, and that's true. 1074 01:36:05,060 --> 01:36:08,040 Like they may take a really broad interpretation and say, 1075 01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:13,100 well, it's the second and third people that both violate it. 1076 01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:14,680 I think strictly reading the act, 1077 01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:17,240 it's only the second person, assuming the third person 1078 01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:19,760 doesn't know that number one has been talked to. 1079 01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:21,740 The third person knows number one has been talked to you. 1080 01:36:22,300 --> 01:36:25,860 Then it would be two and three is the problem. 1081 01:36:26,420 --> 01:36:28,700 It wouldn't be a problem for one under the old language. 1082 01:36:28,700 --> 01:36:37,120 One would still be an issue because there isn't that knowing intent that was attached to it. 1083 01:36:37,620 --> 01:36:40,860 And so that, and that was the largest issue that the legislature cleaned up. 1084 01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:50,720 But essentially it's a series of individual communications that results in a quorum walking quorum amongst body. 1085 01:36:52,900 --> 01:36:54,340 You know, the foul thoughts coming. 1086 01:36:56,160 --> 01:37:03,260 The most famous example, of course, being the, the, I keep thinking it's the Mayor in San Antonio, 1087 01:37:03,500 --> 01:37:07,100 and I feel terrible if it's not because it's, because at this point I pretty much bad 1088 01:37:07,100 --> 01:37:07,900 and I'll say it in Antonio. 1089 01:37:09,440 --> 01:37:14,420 But I want to say it's, it's a city was a city in Barric County for sure. 1090 01:37:15,380 --> 01:37:43,880 But, essentially, there was seven or eight members on council camera and, you know, the mayor was sitting in the office said, all right, three of you first three come in and said, all right, here's what we're going to do this, this, this and this, what are your, what are your opinions, what are your votes, and they said, okay, all right, all right, number three and he was going into a council positions one, two, three, all right, number three, 1091 01:37:44,480 --> 01:37:47,780 you're out, Council Member Four come in, explain that. 1092 01:37:48,020 --> 01:37:49,680 All right, Council Member's one and two, you're out, 1093 01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:50,760 Council Member Lee come in. 1094 01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:52,720 So there's never a war, there's never a quorum in the room 1095 01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:54,660 at the same time, and of course the quorum was like, 1096 01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:58,400 that's, you know, like, thank goodness for bad criminals 1097 01:37:58,900 --> 01:38:01,960 that it was that easy to identify, 1098 01:38:02,180 --> 01:38:05,380 but that's kind of the, that was the first big case on it. 1099 01:38:09,860 --> 01:38:12,260 And, and all community, all forms of communication count, 1100 01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:16,640 texting, emailing, does not, it can be the same chat room, 1101 01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:22,980 say, anything, which in the context of the internet, there's a whole bunch of endless questions 1102 01:38:22,980 --> 01:38:29,400 about what constitutes communication. I still don't like the idea of if someone even makes 1103 01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:36,140 a post on Facebook, just liking it. Because if someone says, well, I think we should do this, 1104 01:38:36,860 --> 01:38:43,400 and then two people like that, I mean, do we have a walking corner? Again, again, depends 1105 01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:50,340 what the DA thinks. But that's the, that would be the risk. I, I, I, I don't have any 1106 01:38:50,340 --> 01:38:55,020 issue with end open meetings allows for some communication online, but you can imagine 1107 01:38:55,020 --> 01:38:59,660 the legislature wrote that language when message boards were really big. If you've ever 1108 01:38:59,660 --> 01:39:05,380 followed college football recruiting, BBS boards, that's basically what's written into the code 1109 01:39:05,380 --> 01:39:10,100 is the permissible form of communication amongst council members on the internet is the city 1110 01:39:10,100 --> 01:39:12,000 You can set up a... 1111 01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:13,860 Well, it's important for you. 1112 01:39:14,540 --> 01:39:15,700 Because we're in the 80s. 1113 01:39:16,420 --> 01:39:16,480 All right. 1114 01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:20,680 Connie, your motion recommended actions give direction to staff. 1115 01:39:20,940 --> 01:39:25,080 I provided some possible action or possible direction towards staff. 1116 01:39:25,220 --> 01:39:27,340 I think staff would prefer anything to be in writing. 1117 01:39:28,020 --> 01:39:31,980 Is there any specific action that you're looking to make here? 1118 01:39:32,460 --> 01:39:32,780 No. 1119 01:39:33,060 --> 01:39:34,160 I actually wasn't playing. 1120 01:39:34,300 --> 01:39:36,360 I just put that in the item just in case. 1121 01:39:36,780 --> 01:39:37,180 I don't know. 1122 01:39:37,180 --> 01:39:40,200 just because I'm used to putting that kind of language together. 1123 01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:45,740 But I just wanted to make sure that we all understand, 1124 01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:49,680 especially the public comments which we were talking about earlier, 1125 01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:54,900 we're not trying to avoid anyone or when things come up, 1126 01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:55,900 that we're not trying to answer, 1127 01:39:56,020 --> 01:39:59,620 we're not up here, trying to not answer questions, 1128 01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:02,120 or not engage, that if it is not on the agenda, 1129 01:40:02,420 --> 01:40:03,600 we cannot discuss it. 1130 01:40:04,420 --> 01:40:06,640 And so, and it's becoming up a lot 1131 01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:13,200 with since I've been on council and I just wanted to, I just think that things like this 1132 01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:22,540 never hurts to just have a little refresher and I'm happy to share what if you share it, 1133 01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:27,760 we can put it out, the questions, the Q&A or whatever, it's fine with me, that's really all that 1134 01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:36,580 it was. If you guys wanted to do resolution, I will say if, like let's say Austin is contacted maybe, 1135 01:40:38,140 --> 01:40:44,860 about possibly having one of us having or any of us having an event here that is that we're 1136 01:40:44,860 --> 01:40:51,140 not paying for that maybe Austin communicate that with Courtney immediately or have all 1137 01:40:51,140 --> 01:40:55,620 of us copy Courtney on something like that so that where she's aware it just in case an agenda 1138 01:40:55,620 --> 01:40:56,740 does have to be posted. 1139 01:40:57,060 --> 01:41:01,580 We need any council member using their position should be going to the city manager to book 1140 01:41:01,580 --> 01:41:06,120 it but the resolution I put the responsibility on the council member. 1141 01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:11,120 And I use the term council member the same way as the charter it includes me. 1142 01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:13,540 I think that's reasonable. 1143 01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:17,260 Does anybody have any comments or objection to anything here? 1144 01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:22,920 Well then I will, I've already said that the court will pass that through the review. 1145 01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:24,000 Come back next month. 1146 01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:28,200 And now we're going to move on to Mayor and council comments. 1147 01:41:29,380 --> 01:41:31,120 And so we'll start off. 1148 01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:34,380 I think we've started off down there. 1149 01:41:34,580 --> 01:41:36,580 Councillor McCrey, McCulley. 1150 01:41:38,980 --> 01:41:39,940 Hey, appreciate it. 1151 01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:41,940 Sorry, I could not be there in person today. 1152 01:41:42,900 --> 01:41:46,920 I do want to reiterate to the public and to council as well. 1153 01:41:47,100 --> 01:41:52,980 I really do appreciate the work that Austin has done on this budget. 1154 01:41:53,900 --> 01:41:56,320 I know I voted against it, but I really wanted to. 1155 01:41:56,540 --> 01:41:57,920 And I made a commitment that I wouldn't. 1156 01:41:58,700 --> 01:41:59,700 So I didn't want to go back on that. 1157 01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:03,340 but the fact that the taxes are only getting raised 1158 01:42:03,340 --> 01:42:05,740 at a very small amount is I think pretty impressive 1159 01:42:05,740 --> 01:42:06,820 to the work that you guys did, 1160 01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:08,460 so I really do appreciate that. 1161 01:42:10,300 --> 01:42:14,960 With that being said, in terms of overall impact to citizens, 1162 01:42:15,580 --> 01:42:18,060 there's some also some really big stuff coming up, 1163 01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:19,520 not only in the school district, 1164 01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:22,200 but Harris County as well, 1165 01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:25,700 so those are gonna have in terms of real dollar spent, 1166 01:42:25,780 --> 01:42:27,080 a much bigger impact 1167 01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:28,960 and what we're talking about here. 1168 01:42:29,860 --> 01:42:33,520 So my request is all of this in really pay attention 1169 01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:35,660 to that that's something that's coming up here 1170 01:42:35,660 --> 01:42:37,520 that's going to have a really big impact on your lives. 1171 01:42:38,220 --> 01:42:40,200 So thank you. 1172 01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:42,200 Councilman Rossi. 1173 01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:47,820 Well, I do want to thank staff and everyone 1174 01:42:47,820 --> 01:42:54,080 who did take the time to, you guys worked really hard on this. 1175 01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:55,140 So I appreciate it. 1176 01:42:55,140 --> 01:43:00,000 I spoke with you about it, Austin, so I appreciate that. 1177 01:43:00,700 --> 01:43:03,280 I still want to thank, when I was going through everything, 1178 01:43:03,620 --> 01:43:06,940 I want to thank Congressman, Wesley Hunts Office, again, 1179 01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:10,440 for the $1 million federal funding to JB. 1180 01:43:11,260 --> 01:43:12,740 I think that is wonderful. 1181 01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:16,180 Also, our fire department was busy. 1182 01:43:16,980 --> 01:43:19,420 They stopped by the high school, saw the post, 1183 01:43:19,700 --> 01:43:21,420 and you were doing your inspections. 1184 01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,060 I didn't know there was something called Wet the Band. 1185 01:43:24,060 --> 01:43:30,080 I thought that was kind of cute, so I think that's kind of, you know, I just want to say thank you for that and don't forget 1186 01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:40,520 Dueling Piano is coming up Friday. There's a lot happening in our city and it's a good reminder that even when we don't agree on every issue 1187 01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:49,540 We share the same community. It's great to see so many people engaged and invested in our community and I look forward to all of us continuing to work together 1188 01:43:49,540 --> 01:43:54,540 to keep JV a great place to call home. 1189 01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:56,340 Councillor Ritten. 1190 01:44:00,100 --> 01:44:04,000 I want to also reiterate the appreciation for the staff. 1191 01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:08,800 Being able to work through the challenges that we had. 1192 01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:10,040 Pretty impressive. 1193 01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:19,760 I want to note the positivity of our golf course and the management that make that happen. 1194 01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:22,920 so amazing. 1195 01:44:25,340 --> 01:44:35,160 Chief Bits, I just got to say I was thinking about it and I think that was 1196 01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:42,360 really the first volunteer work that I probably have ever done. It's 2008. 1197 01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:47,540 My wife and I just moved into Jersey Village. There's this packet to be a volunteer 1198 01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:52,720 fire department. I actually thought it was for cooking for the firefighters or maybe 1199 01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:58,900 getting to wash their fire trucks. I don't think we were here a week or two and I'd 1200 01:44:58,900 --> 01:44:59,780 already filled up the packet. 1201 01:45:00,050 --> 01:45:10,610 And I actually met with you and Frank Mar, who's no longer here, Curtis and Rob Missle. 1202 01:45:12,310 --> 01:45:16,910 So, I've only been in the neighborhood for two, three weeks, possibly. 1203 01:45:17,290 --> 01:45:23,370 What was the third week was my first day as a volunteer firefighter with the Jersey Village Fire Department. 1204 01:45:23,370 --> 01:45:26,750 that was Hurricane Ike. 1205 01:45:27,570 --> 01:45:32,250 So, watching what you've done with this fire department 1206 01:45:33,350 --> 01:45:37,130 and leading the men and women of the fire department 1207 01:45:37,130 --> 01:45:42,290 and our city and the programs that you have overseen 1208 01:45:42,290 --> 01:45:46,650 and developed, I cannot say enough, 1209 01:45:47,030 --> 01:45:48,930 and you will truly be missed. 1210 01:45:49,650 --> 01:45:50,930 Thank you for all that you've done. 1211 01:45:52,660 --> 01:46:08,740 Councilor Hughes, just want to thank everybody who stayed and either viewed the council meeting in person or over the video, appreciate your participation, the comments, the emails that have come. 1212 01:46:09,300 --> 01:46:16,640 Just a quick correction. Council member Britain, you said Frank Moore is no longer here. He's actually no longer in the room. 1213 01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:21,720 Man, lots of clear, just a point of play, right? 1214 01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:31,760 Chief Bits, just saddened to hear that you're leaving, but hopefully it's your opportunities 1215 01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:34,800 or what you're doing, retiring, whatever. 1216 01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:37,280 I'm sure we'll learn more in any event. 1217 01:46:38,300 --> 01:46:42,640 And I know you're here for a while, but anyway, deeply, I'm saddened that you're leaving. 1218 01:46:43,460 --> 01:46:45,780 But always wishing you the best, appreciate your service. 1219 01:46:45,780 --> 01:46:50,320 appreciate all the service of the police and of our department. Thank you. 1220 01:46:52,460 --> 01:46:57,280 I'd like to revisit the budget, tax rates, moment meeting questions, and I'm just kidding. 1221 01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:04,080 Staff, thank you for your hard work on the budget. I'm always the 1222 01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:10,380 standard at the breadth of knowledge that you have. We find the most hidden question you guys always 1223 01:47:10,380 --> 01:47:15,400 have an answer, and that's very commendable. So thank you for the work. It doesn't go unnoticed. 1224 01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:19,320 You guys, the whole staff, you guys do a fantastic job. 1225 01:47:20,020 --> 01:47:26,280 Mark Bitz, we're going to see if we can make your last four months as difficult as possible. 1226 01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:29,760 I'm stuck. 1227 01:47:31,980 --> 01:47:35,800 You've been a main stage of your as a village and you will be a mess and congratulations 1228 01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:36,720 on your retirement. 1229 01:47:37,020 --> 01:47:41,660 I can tell you that I can speak very highly of retirement so far so good. 1230 01:47:42,100 --> 01:47:45,540 So I hope you enjoy it and thank you for your service to the city. 1231 01:47:50,390 --> 01:47:54,730 If staff did a very good job with the budget, I appreciate all your hard work, Austin, 1232 01:47:54,930 --> 01:47:56,790 Jennifer, everyone that helped you. 1233 01:48:01,300 --> 01:48:08,220 Chief, I remember you called me as going home from the police academy and say, 1234 01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:10,600 hey, can you stop by the office on your way home? 1235 01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:15,240 This is my 21st birthday and you started my career off. 1236 01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:26,440 And if amount of mentorship and time you put into me and those first several years, I greatly appreciate. 1237 01:48:30,260 --> 01:48:32,780 Thank you very much for all you've done for the city. 1238 01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:41,220 A little sad here that you're deciding to retire, but it is very well deserved. 1239 01:48:42,820 --> 01:48:45,720 And it looks forward to seeing what happens next. 1240 01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:49,720 I hear retirement's great thanks, so. 1241 01:48:53,620 --> 01:48:56,400 Remind everybody that schools back in session, 1242 01:48:56,540 --> 01:48:58,500 you can certainly feel it in the traffic, 1243 01:48:59,880 --> 01:49:03,460 but keep an eye out for kids moving around bus stops and schools 1244 01:49:05,380 --> 01:49:08,580 and come out to doing pianos on Friday night, 1245 01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:09,700 should be a great show. 1246 01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:12,700 It has been every year, so thank you very much. 1247 01:49:12,700 --> 01:49:15,340 And that's the end of the meeting, 848. 1248 01:49:19,260 --> 01:49:19,900 Thank you.