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I'm a clerk here.

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It's rise for the pledge.

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I pledge allegiance to black.

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I think I have a state to support.

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To the republic, the resistance, the relation, the power of the guy in the discipline, the

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government meeting, justice, or all. On the Texas flag, all the way to the Texas.

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when we're going to stay alive.

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Goodwill

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County Commissiones Court.

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For today, September 4, 2026, 9am is now in session.

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How's everybody doing this morning?

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Good.

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Gender Item number three public testimony.

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We have one Mr. Jeremiah Murray.

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Please introduce yourself to the court.

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My name is Gerald Murray. I'm a candidate for justice of the peace and precinct five in order to grow in the surrounding area.

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I won the primary and election and I am unopposed in the general election in November. I expect to take office in January of 2027.

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I am therefore interested in the budget for 2027 when I will take office.

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I am concerned about a proposal to limit J.P. office offices to one clerk and limit their salary.

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I have heard that the J.P. precinct five office very often needs more than one clerk to keep up with demand.

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Placing a limitation on salary does not allow for inflation or other economic factors and would make it difficult to hire qualified applicants.

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I've been told that truncities have gone down in numbers, but how can we know if those numbers will remain down?

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I have also heard that civil cases have gone up in precinct five and placed an additional workload on the clerk.

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The clerk needs sick leave, has vacation, or needs to be put out, needs to be out of the office for training.

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I believe it would be prudent to have a backup to cover that absence.

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The current just as a piece has hired and utilized additional clerks during her term to keep up with demand.

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Why should I be limited in hiring an additional clerk when I take office in January by find that there is a need?

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That seems to me like it will only undermine the office.

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I propose that the J.P. office in precinct Fib will continue to be allowed to hire an additional clerk if needed as they have in the past.

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And that salary will not be capped if it allowed to be fair and practical.

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My goal is to provide the best possible service to the constituents of precinct Fib.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Anybody else would like to address the court at this time?

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Good morning, Judge.

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Commissioners.

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Michael Garra.

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Jim most county attorney.

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I'm here today joined by the district judge, the county court at law judge, the district

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attorney, and the director of adult probation.

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Rubin O'Ledio.

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We are here as we move forward with today's RFQ on the jail evaluation to put our position

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on the record regarding the current jail situation.

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I have a prepared statement and this will be posted to our page later this morning.

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So everybody can know exactly what is being said here this.

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Jim Wells County's jail crisis requires an immediate and practical solution. We cannot continue spending more than $100,000 every month to house inmates and other counties, while usable capacity in our own 88-bed jail remains offline.

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In years past, this jail consistently passed aid inspections, including unannounced inspections, with the same staffing and personnel budget.

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As recently as August of last year, it housed 74 inmates.

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Today, it houses fewer than 40.

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The Commissioners Court deserves specific documented answers.

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How many beds are unavailable?

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Why is each area unusable?

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What repairs are required?

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What will they cost?

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How long will they take?

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And can the work be phased to restore beds quickly?

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General statements are no longer sufficient.

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When taxpayers are paying six figures each month, and these expenses are draining county reserves.

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We also disagree with the implication from the sheriff's recent interview that anyone on the court side

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has asked him to simply release inmates without appropriate court orders.

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That has not happened.

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The courts, prosecutors, defense attorneys, and probation officers have worked together

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to reduce unnecessary detention through lawful bonds.

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Crete trial supervision, probation, ankle monitors, and expedited case resolutions.

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Every release must be authorized by a court and supported by the law and the facts.

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No one is advocating the release of violent, dangerous or high risk offenders merely to create jail space.

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It was also disappointing that at Wednesday's budget hearing, the sheriff did not request additional funding

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to repair the jail or restore its existing capacity.

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Instead, he requested approximately $1.4 million more to continue housing inmates outside

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of Jim Wells County.

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That request funds the continuation of the problem and is not a solution for it.

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At this point, I personally don't believe a completely new jail is necessary, but if the

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commissioners court eventually chooses that option, the earliest realistic bond election

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would be May of 2027, even if approved, which is not a sure thing given the amount of long-term

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debt taxpayers already carry, particularly those taxpayers here in Dallas, a new facility

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could take another two and a half to three years to complete. Three more years of outsourcing

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at the present rate would cost our taxpayers at least $3.6 million without creating a single

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permanent bed in the meantime.

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Our immediate course should be clear,

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determined precisely why the existing beds

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are unavailable, obtain credible repair estimates,

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fund the necessary work, and restore the gel to its rated capacity.

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We must fix what we have.

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Continue delay only transfers taxpayer money to other counties,

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while depleting the reserves, Jim Wells County may need

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in the future emergency.

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The present course is unsustainable

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time for a documented repair plan is now. Thank

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you. Thank you. Thank you.

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You're going to have a chance to respond during budget hearing.

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So now. Yeah, you will, but I mean, you have your expenses coming up. So you, you can, you can speak during.

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What anybody else like to address all this time?

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Every nine will move forward, agenda item number four, Norma Salas Grant Administrator

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4.1.

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Discussed to sit or take action to award the architectural engineering firm, one of the most

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county jelly value mentioned project, number 2026-cj001.

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Good morning, Judge commissioners and everyone.

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We're here today with our evaluation of our RFQ.

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The RFQs were turned into our evaluation committee and Mr. Fettis is here with the report.

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Judge and Commissioner Schquart, JC Fettis, Jim Wells County Clerk, and also a part of the committee that

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that evaluates any project that comes to the...

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To the county. And we did have five

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different proposals.

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And each one is listed and the total that they received.

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The committee has given Turner Ramirez architects with the highest total, as the recommendation from the committee.

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Motion to approve, Judge.

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Our motion.

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Motion to approve Turner Ramirez architects is the

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second.

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I have a motion and a second for the discussion.

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So we do have

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standard omitis architect as the first one and the recommended.

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And then we have Brotis associated with the second

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one.

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Do we schedule the presentation at some point in this architect?

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Yes, or we can.

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We have a motion in a second, just to get this for knowledge or knowledge,

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if I

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mean, this is not going to be funded to any grant or anything, this is going to be funded through the county budget, so during the presentations if we feel the commission's court feel like that would be an issue with Turner and Ramirez, we can go to the second one.

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But I was going to point that out, perhaps it would be good to maybe amend the motion and say

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because they are ranked, so the next would be brought us, and then frankly, sergeant.

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So maybe if we could announce the rankings, so that we have it on record that if the negotiations

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with the highest ranking applicant doesn't go through, then we move on to number two and so on.

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If number two, the negotiation doesn't work with Brottis, then we move on to Brinkly Sergeant,

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and then ICE, and then Butler Cohen.

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So maybe adopting the sheet as presented with Turner

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Ramirez being the primary, the starting point, in other words.

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I'll amend my motion and make motion to accept a list that was given to us by Mr. Peters.

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I'll show you in the turn of the meeting, there's a number one architect, and then wrote

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as an Associate Second, Brinkly Sergeant, Winnington Architects Third, and then International

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Consulting Engineers Fourth, but in the Coan Advisory Fifth.

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Second.

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Okay, have a minute motion, and a second, is there any further discussion, and we'll try to

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if that presentation is possible.

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We need to make a rush on it, but if there's none, all the people say aye.

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All the full same sign.

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Motion carries.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Gender item number five.

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Budget works out number two.

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Five point one, full twenty twenty seven budget works up session.

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We're going to go ahead and go.

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Thank you.

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We're going to go ahead and go into the Vudget Workshop and

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review.

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It's a continuation from the Vudget Workshop 1.

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You're in 2027, the proposed budget, revenues that expenditures, using the no new revenue tax rate, brought us a negative $648,997.55, we went ahead or the safety for safety.

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To have a safety net, we approved the proposed budget as 0.787.

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Does that would bring us $1,474,98.

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We made a point to have the understanding that we wanted to continue with the goal

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that we have two years ago.

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We were able to have the same tax rate.

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So, approved last two years.

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We wanted to say we want to approve this year,

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which is 0.767.

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And that would bring us 800,

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800,

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800, 800, 800, 891, 538,

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I'm pausing because I was thinking about the other number.

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that would check that the tax rate is 0.767 and it would bring us the 891,538 dollars.

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The difference is we started this budget hearings in the black 14,372 cents.

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So that being said, we're moving forward to improving and disapproving the recommendations or the requests.

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So the first one on the list is the county judges non-departmental.

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These were the contract maintenance which was the implementation of a software and case management system,

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which was eye docket. We now have a case management system that we feel is going to be more

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efficient. It's going to be able to run our cases a little quicker through our justice and

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civil courts and our district and county attorneys offices. So that being said, we had an increase

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a request and an increase of 68,200 to fund that case management system.

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the other one is sell safety payments, which is an increase in 1,000.

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So that's 69,200.

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These are both absolutely needed.

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increases. So that being said, I entertain a motion. We have proved that.

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What's the safety pinion for? Safety, safety child is what we get from Mary, Mary,

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you'd like to explain that a little more about her child safety pinion.

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It gets this

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First into several different entities for the y'all.

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Yeah, I get a go first.

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This is some days required by law, right?

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Something that we can avoid.

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Oh, hi.

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They're not thinking that it's not.

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Thank you.

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Motion to approve item, Mr. Disha.

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I'll read a motion.

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Oh, you did?

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OK, second.

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I'll second.

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I'll have a motion, a second.

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Any further discussion?

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All the papers say.

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Aye.

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On a closing sign.

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Motion carries.

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The second one is a county court at law

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and it was to move a hard time into a full time position

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and that would cost a total of 34,422.

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I don't know you want to expound again on a judge or

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We want to just, we want to request you to come out as a least, thank you very much.

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I'll judge, I do, I just stated, 34,000. Actually, that would be the total, currently, that would just be an increase of 15,000 is what I'm asking for our budget.

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Cindy, one of the very part, because that's what's on the 34,000 votes on the sheet.

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So the 15,000 is for the salary portion to move up being placed a full timer. I do have to add the French benefit to include to the budget, because it's actually adding a full time position.

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So that's where the additional amount comes in at the 34,000 that you're looking at, 34,000, 4, 20,000.

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Judge, this position help you expand out more cases.

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It has helped the office for greatly Mr. Clayton, I'm going with a secretary for the office

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and she has been a big help to the office.

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You know why I did provide you guys a Commissioner's Court with a list of her duties.

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I think she's been in a pretty, an analysis of this office, you know,

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And this into that, I mean, she would have a little bit more time with the office.

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I definitely think that office will run a lot more efficient.

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And, of course, we'll have it turned out to be.

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This county court of law has been an existence for 12 years.

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Yes, sir.

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It's always been under funded.

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Back in 2016, we took away the secretary.

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So he's trying to reinstate what we took away eight, ten years ago.

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It's a very busy court, you know, it's probably what, I mean, you process hundreds of cases every month, you know, to do it with two secretaries, it's really a commend you, you know, because for 12 years, you know, it's it's struggled, and I think it can become more efficient, you know, we have another secretaries.

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Thank you for that. Yes sir.

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Or clerk whatever whatever it is.

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Commissioners, I can I can

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reaffirm what the judge is saying.

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The employee he's talking about Mr.

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Guma has has become the primary court manager for the criminal

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Docket.

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As he said, we meet at least two times a month,

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sometimes more.

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Our docket's average more than 50 cases each time.

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So we're and and this is again,

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this is one of the methods that we're using

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to address the jail capacity issue.

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So, this is a very important position and it can help us in more than one way, not just by moving the cases on the criminal document, but addressing the overcrowding situation.

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Thank you for that.

237
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First of all, I would be sure if you were going to ask a question.

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Hey.

239
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I'm sorry.

240
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I mean, I don't think I was going to say would be if there's any way, I know we're only supposed to go 29 hours a week.

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I mean, like, every once in a while, you can go over or whatever because just by adding a new employee,

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that's already 12, 13, 40 businesses in need.

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That's like, adding $19,000 for the French benefits if you could, you know, work it in that way.

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And the only thing also about, I know with Mr. Garcia said was, you know, back when you lost a secretary,

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But with all new softwares coming in 10 years, it makes things more efficient, more easier, faster, you know, things get done faster.

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But then, you know, if I'm not for sure, you know, about this jail situation, if that can help.

247
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And if it does, if we do have somebody in the jail situation gets better and stuff, then if she's not needed, would be willing to go down.

248
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It's always when you go up, you never go,

249
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everybody's down.

250
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I understand.

251
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You see, that's all I was in.

252
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Okay, thank you.

253
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I like to echo what Mr. Garcia said.

254
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It's not really putting in a new full timer.

255
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It's just adding it to a full timer.

256
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And if it's going to help us process more case loads,

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I can't see why we can't so you guess to it.

258
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It certainly has.

259
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And her, she's taken on the,

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some of the workload of my court administrative court manager.

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So that allows them to be a little bit more efficient as well in the process in their cases because they all handle

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This thing boom has to kind of take in the industry to the lead, but she is kind of responsible for all or our criminal

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Docket so that allows me or I record administrator

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And all our civil matters as well. And so, and this bed is handles all our CPS cases, juvenile,

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attorney general cases. And let me also handle the public matter. So that allows him,

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if he's a mother a little bit to be able to be a little bit better in processing those cases.

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You have, of course, on a weekday basis. Pretty much just to say.

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Every week, pretty much. If not, it's very seldom that you don't.

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Every other week, we definitely have Mondays.

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We have our criminal jacket on Tuesdays.

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We'll be our civil day.

272
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Wednesdays is our CPS day and Thursdays is our attorney general day.

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And we leave Friday's open for any visiting judges and need to come in to handle any cases that I may have a conflict on.

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But within those weeks, that's every other week.

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But within those weeks, we also have documents for civil, civil matters.

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When there's visiting judges, your officer has to do all the work.

277
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Yes, no they do they they coordinate the they put together the dock in the coordinate with the

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it in judge and his staff and then getting those schedule.

279
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Michael haven't heard all the comments and everything. I'll make a motion to approve the increase.

280
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Second. I have a motion in a second. Any further discussion?

281
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I'll say aye. All the same sign. Motion carries. Thank you, Judge.

282
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Thank you. Thank you.

283
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Thank you.

284
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collection fees

285
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3000

286
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Not here to there

287
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Judge are you online?

288
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I think I was just omitted. I think I'm good now.

289
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Can you hear me sir?

290
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Yes sir, we can hear you now.

291
00:27:12,380 --> 00:27:15,600
Okay, good morning County Judge Commissioners and all other county officials

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Judge met JP3

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Going off of our numbers for this year

294
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We're requesting, our office is requesting an additional 3,000 on our collection side as of now.

295
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We're at a negative 1540 for the year.

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That's up to July, 2026.

297
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Ultimately, the money comes back to the county, minus a small percentage that goes to the collection agency.

298
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So, ultimately, it does come back to the county last year.

299
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We finished that negative 122470.

300
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So, we're just trying to increase it a little bit to be able to cover those collection fees.

301
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Motion.

302
00:28:03,290 --> 00:28:05,070
I have a motion in a second.

303
00:28:05,270 --> 00:28:06,330
Is there any further discussion?

304
00:28:07,810 --> 00:28:08,770
All the things we say aye.

305
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All the polls same sign.

306
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Motion carries.

307
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Thank you.

308
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Thank you.

309
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Thank you.

310
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Just a piece of precinct five.

311
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This is the clerical position.

312
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I was one that brought this up last time.

313
00:28:35,980 --> 00:28:38,980
Whenever it was 87-507, that's when ever,

314
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precinct fire was doing all truencies,

315
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and they had two full-time and two one-part-time.

316
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Right now they have being done with one full-time employee,

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and that's why we brought it down to 55.

318
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And even at $55, there's still $23,000 left in there if you wanted to hire a part-time employee.

319
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And that was still leave $6,000 for adequate cushion for future raises.

320
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And that's if there was an extra part-time hired.

321
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,800
And it's like I said again, I'll say it again about news software,

322
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new softwares come up, things get done faster, it's more efficient and we're trying to balance

323
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the budget and I mean all I know is getting by with one right now if a part time is well there's money in there for part time at 55.

324
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:54,680
I know that the stock salary was back in 2025 was $32,000 and it reflects the 87,000

325
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for this coming cycle.

326
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So there's something...

327
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And Commissioner.

328
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:14,180
Yeah, they're proposing to accept that before, but it's a talking 25, I'm just going back to what, yeah, the history of spending, and it was not 87, Cindy's going to be.

329
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:28,660
Yeah, I just wanted to clarify. So the expense that you're seeing on there is the actual expense for the one full time position is what Mr. Garcia is talking about. So that's, that's just actual, just because the full time and part time were unused.

330
00:30:29,340 --> 00:30:34,540
going on for a couple of years now. So they just have been vacant. So on use. So the 32

331
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Mr. Garcia is talking about is the actual expense for the one position that that is felt. Yes,

332
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:50,000
that's what's left is actually for a part time and a full time. Yeah. So what's on the request right now that you're looking at is

333
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:58,100
you're right. It was the request to was to def fund. I guess remove one full time position. So what's left is one full time and one

334
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part-time position, plus the JP, of course.

335
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And there's cushion, right, right, right.

336
00:31:05,820 --> 00:31:09,100
That number that's left in that line item can be interchanged.

337
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:30,740
I haven't seen the numbers, but I haven't seen the numbers, but I just want, I'm just concerned

338
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is there enough cushion, because currently the clerk is invading not as well as she

339
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should be to cover that entire office. From what I understand, she's practically overwhelmed and

340
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needs help like immediately. So this is just a hearsay because I don't go to the JP court

341
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because I have not been elected yet, but I would just be concerned that there'll be enough of

342
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by comfort zone there and the budget to be able to hire a part timeer and give the current

343
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clerk a raise to keep her because in order to keep somebody in a position, of course,

344
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you've got to pay them fairly and practically, thank you very much.

345
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:30,540
you will have some wages because you get a full time in a part time limit, right there, which takes a lot of work, you're off of the full time.

346
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,300
Exactly. So she has two full time and a part time budget.

347
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Zero, a couple miles a week now.

348
00:32:48,750 --> 00:32:49,190
Recommendation.

349
00:32:50,370 --> 00:32:53,710
So we're cutting it to from me.

350
00:32:55,500 --> 00:32:56,600
Get rid of the full time.

351
00:32:58,730 --> 00:32:59,830
So get rid of the full time.

352
00:32:59,830 --> 00:33:07,050
So we have one full time and one right now neither one of those are filled, so there is

353
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one full time time.

354
00:33:08,150 --> 00:33:10,750
Besides the ones that are good, there's only a way.

355
00:33:11,290 --> 00:33:12,650
So there's going to be one extra full time.

356
00:33:13,610 --> 00:33:17,910
Right now there is because we're cutting away that.

357
00:33:18,150 --> 00:33:21,370
Because the full time does only be a full time and a part time.

358
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With cushion.

359
00:33:30,750 --> 00:33:31,570
And I'm taking a motion.

360
00:33:33,330 --> 00:33:34,130
So what's the motion?

361
00:33:38,420 --> 00:33:39,200
What's the motion?

362
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:46,540
I make a motion for the justice of the piece to be as presented on here for this way.

363
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,420
We brought it down to 55,000.

364
00:33:52,340 --> 00:33:57,120
We're getting rid of the 32, 445, and French benefits for a full time.

365
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,200
Which leaves money enough for a full time and a part time.

366
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,220
If needed.

367
00:34:05,260 --> 00:34:07,920
Are you removing one full time?

368
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:08,300
Yes.

369
00:35:10,030 --> 00:35:24,090
Good. Did y'all vote on the very first portion of that in regards to the J.P. salary? Y'all discuss the clerical but not? Is that all one motion a total?

370
00:35:24,630 --> 00:35:28,950
No. We're going to apologize to the million discussed the salary.

371
00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:48,550
Salary on JP's when JP's come in, they've been taken down to 50's, so the 50,000 mark and I think it was just over looked so brought it up because four years ago all JP's were brought down to 50.

372
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,700
Except for one, right?

373
00:35:52,700 --> 00:36:07,260
Well, JT3 was lower than 50 against because of the workload. I'm not for sure why. But then he came back in and we approved it to brought up this year at another commissioner's court.

374
00:36:07,260 --> 00:36:15,970
didn't get their office currently not currently they're all at not all I don't have the

375
00:36:15,970 --> 00:36:24,130
salary schedule in front of me but I believe J.P. 3 J.K. 4 and 5 are all at the 54 75.

376
00:36:24,890 --> 00:36:30,250
That was with them. Yeah, but they started. Oh yes, back started at 50. All of them even J.P. 3.

377
00:36:30,370 --> 00:36:37,730
J.P. 3 was a little lower and I believe the next year he got that little bit of increased

378
00:36:37,730 --> 00:36:42,210
So where they were all at 50 or whatever I guess 50 was the amount.

379
00:36:42,310 --> 00:36:48,930
So now them three particular precincts are all at a that same amount.

380
00:36:49,430 --> 00:36:52,730
Otherwise at that time in that year.

381
00:36:54,790 --> 00:36:57,830
Except for using three they all got moved down.

382
00:36:58,610 --> 00:36:59,110
Correct.

383
00:37:00,830 --> 00:37:03,630
They're all even including six to correct.

384
00:37:03,630 --> 00:37:06,970
a precinct one and six are at a different salary.

385
00:37:07,290 --> 00:37:08,170
That's right.

386
00:37:08,530 --> 00:37:09,710
And that's historic too.

387
00:37:09,870 --> 00:37:13,390
Because six used to do trunc before, before five did.

388
00:37:14,210 --> 00:37:15,450
So they were already higher.

389
00:37:17,090 --> 00:37:18,610
So one and six are a little bit higher.

390
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:21,270
The other three are all at the same level.

391
00:37:23,010 --> 00:37:26,210
I'm just going to make a comment judge on this for whatever

392
00:37:26,210 --> 00:37:27,750
it's worth it.

393
00:37:27,910 --> 00:37:30,310
I've heard in the past somebody decides to run for a position

394
00:37:30,310 --> 00:37:33,750
And they realize how much the pay is, that's what you're running for.

395
00:37:34,410 --> 00:37:38,310
And I know it's all right here to increase or decrease.

396
00:37:39,390 --> 00:37:41,010
But if an individual's running for that spot,

397
00:37:43,370 --> 00:37:43,770
at that price,

398
00:37:43,870 --> 00:37:44,830
and then we're not going to down.

399
00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:49,500
Is it the right thing to first do this?

400
00:37:49,620 --> 00:37:50,360
My comment.

401
00:37:55,430 --> 00:37:58,310
Well, there's still going to be a Agency of the Court.

402
00:37:58,310 --> 00:38:03,910
I think three,

403
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,560
I think he doesn't have truancy.

404
00:38:14,810 --> 00:38:16,010
Is there any further discussion?

405
00:38:17,130 --> 00:38:17,490
Minority.

406
00:38:17,770 --> 00:38:25,930
I make a motion for the JPE precinct five to be at 50,000.

407
00:38:26,050 --> 00:38:26,850
Over the year.

408
00:38:28,990 --> 00:38:29,850
for a second,

409
00:38:39,150 --> 00:38:40,190
multi-dives.

410
00:38:48,220 --> 00:38:50,500
County attorney, I don't think there was any

411
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,360
difference in the bottom line, there were just some changes.

412
00:38:56,380 --> 00:39:02,040
That's correct, the state supplement increased, and so that creates a corresponding decrease on the

413
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,820
county portion.

414
00:39:04,420 --> 00:39:08,040
And we have already, I think that's going to be taken up.

415
00:39:08,180 --> 00:39:09,180
Next Friday.

416
00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:13,220
The budget member or no.

417
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:24,280
So what you're seeing right now is the for the for next year because we did get that clarification on the state supplement for county attorney.

418
00:39:24,860 --> 00:39:33,680
This year it was adopted the same way. So you'll see the next budget amendment on the next commissioner court to correct that.

419
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,620
To reflect those numbers for this year's budget.

420
00:39:38,380 --> 00:39:39,940
That's what we just submitted.

421
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,200
We really have to approve or disapprove this.

422
00:39:42,460 --> 00:39:47,620
This is a little bit more only because that's what the numbers need to reflect in the budget.

423
00:39:47,740 --> 00:39:49,880
Any time I make a change it needs to be approved.

424
00:39:51,140 --> 00:39:52,720
I'm making most of it approved.

425
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:53,240
Second.

426
00:39:54,220 --> 00:39:55,520
I'm a multi-dimensional person.

427
00:39:55,740 --> 00:39:56,500
Any further discussion?

428
00:39:58,100 --> 00:39:58,840
All of them say aye.

429
00:39:59,600 --> 00:39:59,880
Opposed.

430
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:00,960
Motion carries.

431
00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:14,410
Tax successor collector, $200 on gasoline, all in little goods, make a motion, we're

432
00:40:14,410 --> 00:40:18,190
approved. Second, of a motion in a second, any further discussion?

433
00:40:19,410 --> 00:40:23,870
All of those there, aye. All the following things on motion carries,

434
00:40:26,210 --> 00:40:27,470
this ma'am.

435
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:31,350
Information technology, I think originally,

436
00:40:33,590 --> 00:40:36,290
when it was presented, was presented that we were going

437
00:40:36,290 --> 00:40:54,830
increase of 292,000, but after Mr. Cindy's meeting with Mr. Silver, that's just an increase of 99,000 to his current budget, not 292,000.

438
00:40:55,190 --> 00:41:05,290
Yes, that's correct. I did clarify because what's already in the budget. He just wanted to, with the breakdown, he showed y'all, it's a 292, 878.

439
00:41:06,290 --> 00:41:13,050
total to the budget, not in addition, so the increases the 1996 is what he's requesting.

440
00:41:13,630 --> 00:41:20,350
Motion to approve item the request from my team. Technology, I get 96 motion in a second.

441
00:41:20,590 --> 00:41:27,170
Honourable say aye. Aye. All same sign. Motion carries. That's basically in the facility.

442
00:41:27,170 --> 00:41:29,350
I'm going to put

443
00:41:32,710 --> 00:41:38,430
out some buildings, rental of space. I know we rent a couple of spaces.

444
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:53,710
I don't for sure we have one rental coming up in December. So that $10,000 is to cover any increases.

445
00:41:54,350 --> 00:41:57,390
And if there's no increases, would there not money will not expand.

446
00:41:58,990 --> 00:42:04,670
I'll make a motion when you approve second I have a motion in the second is there any further discussion

447
00:42:05,770 --> 00:42:10,550
All in favor say aye. Aye. All the post same sign motion carries

448
00:42:14,290 --> 00:42:16,230
possible precinct three

449
00:42:16,770 --> 00:42:20,890
He's not here today, but I know he we had several

450
00:42:23,030 --> 00:42:23,990
Rick West

451
00:42:25,470 --> 00:42:25,950
and

452
00:42:25,950 --> 00:42:37,510
Once Miss Cindy, when you added the branch, the total amount is $81,659.

453
00:42:39,980 --> 00:42:40,660
Yes, Jen.

454
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:41,500
That is correct.

455
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:47,760
I think the initial request that Constable Long provided was just the salary portion.

456
00:42:48,020 --> 00:42:49,460
So I did add the fringe benefit.

457
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,460
So that's total in your scene on the work.

458
00:42:53,860 --> 00:42:58,820
And for that first one, the salary, the only way we could adjust it is if he would

459
00:42:58,820 --> 00:43:03,380
and went into the salary, what is it called?

460
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:04,940
What are you going to commit?

461
00:43:05,140 --> 00:43:05,880
That's correct.

462
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:06,940
That wasn't done.

463
00:43:06,940 --> 00:43:07,860
That was not done.

464
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:15,440
If you did not receive the letter within the five days of the proposed budget being filed,

465
00:43:15,980 --> 00:43:22,260
then where the court is not allowed to make any changes to elected official salaries.

466
00:43:23,420 --> 00:43:28,280
So what that in essence, what it means is once we file the proposed budget,

467
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:35,360
any elected official that would like to grieve his, his, or her salary, to increase.

468
00:43:35,980 --> 00:43:42,540
You have to submit the request within five days and then go to the Grievous Committee, the Grievous Committee.

469
00:43:43,300 --> 00:43:47,040
Well, approve or disapprove and present to the Commission's vote.

470
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:53,220
That was not done, so that request cannot be approved.

471
00:43:55,070 --> 00:43:56,690
And then we have travel

472
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,500
and his current travel

473
00:44:04,670 --> 00:44:07,890
that 186, that's all together, right?

474
00:44:08,310 --> 00:44:12,770
That's correct. That's part of the grievance amount that he would have to agree.

475
00:44:13,150 --> 00:44:14,610
That goes into agreement also.

476
00:44:16,050 --> 00:44:16,750
So we can't.

477
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:18,050
We've got to put that on.

478
00:44:24,020 --> 00:44:29,740
So we work real hard to get that even out among all the Constables that we are even now.

479
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:30,600
We are even now.

480
00:44:30,740 --> 00:44:34,440
At 186 so I would I would recommend against

481
00:44:35,020 --> 00:44:41,840
Throwing that out of balance again. I know he's had to go pick up some prisoners. Well, I don't know if he had to

482
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:46,440
But he did go pick up some prisoners out of county and

483
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:54,120
He wants to he wants to be compensated for that, but he's already got that's what the travel allowance is for

484
00:45:01,230 --> 00:45:08,650
That travel is on sale, which is not on sale, it's not considered salary, right?

485
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:11,150
If I'm not mistaken, the last time.

486
00:45:11,390 --> 00:45:15,330
Yeah, travel is just part of the salary here to...

487
00:45:15,330 --> 00:45:16,230
Yes, that's correct.

488
00:45:16,730 --> 00:45:26,450
So, back in the year before I came, several travel were,

489
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,440
I make sure I'm seeing this right.

490
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,800
You're going to go into your W2 form, right?

491
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:42,640
Yes, it's part of a, yes, it's a calculated amount for the retirement and taxes.

492
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,200
So back then when they approved it and went and went to the views?

493
00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:54,110
Yeah, anytime there is an increase, then it goes through the, not agreements.

494
00:45:54,110 --> 00:46:05,090
It's just, it was proposed, it's already in the budget and as long as the notifications were published in the paper.

495
00:46:05,090 --> 00:46:05,970
Okay, I don't know.

496
00:46:05,970 --> 00:46:06,810
That was a procedure.

497
00:46:07,590 --> 00:46:08,910
It was put in the proposal.

498
00:46:08,910 --> 00:46:10,290
It was put in the proposed budget.

499
00:46:10,610 --> 00:46:11,150
That's the different.

500
00:46:11,150 --> 00:46:11,270
It was put in the proposed budget.

501
00:46:12,030 --> 00:46:12,310
Yes.

502
00:46:12,850 --> 00:46:13,110
Understood.

503
00:46:15,010 --> 00:46:18,550
Okay, so we cannot address that one either.

504
00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:44,160
And he has postage of $280 increased by $40 and conference and associations 500.

505
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:45,600
He was a question.

506
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,380
Did you have to?

507
00:46:48,380 --> 00:46:49,800
I need about $2,000.

508
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:50,640
Oh, definitely.

509
00:46:54,570 --> 00:46:55,210
Oh, yes.

510
00:46:55,590 --> 00:46:56,970
I see that one on top here.

511
00:46:57,030 --> 00:47:02,130
Requested a deputy for prison $3,042,680, $40.

512
00:47:02,130 --> 00:47:02,210
I

513
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:17,380
think back when we made those cuts in 2016, all the cost of this loss to the deputy

514
00:47:18,620 --> 00:47:28,140
and right now I received one of them remains without a deputy so I'm making motion that

515
00:47:28,140 --> 00:47:29,220
it remains that way.

516
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:30,000
I'm making a motion.

517
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:30,600
Oh, you can make a motion.

518
00:47:30,940 --> 00:47:31,020
Okay.

519
00:47:32,620 --> 00:47:33,120
I want motion.

520
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:33,560
Second.

521
00:47:33,780 --> 00:47:34,860
Is there any further discussion?

522
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:36,920
All the papers say aye.

523
00:47:37,660 --> 00:47:40,720
of post-same sign, motion carries,

524
00:47:52,730 --> 00:47:56,430
no, we have to go back to that.

525
00:47:57,170 --> 00:48:01,410
So the travel also, it died because we didn't go to agreement,

526
00:48:03,850 --> 00:48:04,790
postage $40,

527
00:48:07,340 --> 00:48:08,520
motion to approve.

528
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,000
Thirded.

529
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,260
I would motion the second.

530
00:48:11,720 --> 00:48:12,840
Any further discussion?

531
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:21,500
on the TSI. I will oppose the same sign. Motion carries increase of $500 in conference

532
00:48:21,500 --> 00:48:22,440
and associations.

533
00:48:25,050 --> 00:48:29,290
Motion to approve. Second. I will most of you second. Any further discussion

534
00:48:30,110 --> 00:48:44,610
on the TSI. I will go to same sign. Motion carries. Okay. I want to make this want to

535
00:48:44,610 --> 00:48:56,990
Okay, so we addressed the two salaries, which was the constable and the travel, and then

536
00:48:56,990 --> 00:49:06,850
deputy constable, we could address that one also, and then we addressed postage and competencies.

537
00:49:06,970 --> 00:49:09,270
No other requests on that one, right?

538
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:09,770
The

539
00:49:26,380 --> 00:49:29,960
next one is the Sheriff's Department.

540
00:49:37,770 --> 00:49:40,270
More in the Judge Commissioners.

541
00:49:40,430 --> 00:49:42,730
I'm just got a bigger sheriff for Jim Wells County.

542
00:49:43,710 --> 00:49:52,810
First I would just like to say the opening vicious attack on me is not founded in any.

543
00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:57,330
I don't know if any statement I've ever made.

544
00:49:57,330 --> 00:49:59,970
I'm using the court, I'm using any of the j-

545
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:29,640
Not doing their job of releasing people, of holding people on lawfully. I don't know where that came from, but I would like to address those. If there's any statement I've ever made, it's just been to show the fact that the prisoner detention is not solely tied, even though it's on my budget. It's not completely determined by me. I've never said anything negative about any of these, the other departments. So I've not to know where that actually came from.

546
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,840
whether there are rumors whether there are actual statements I'd like to see them so I can address them

547
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:40,720
because I've never stated anything like that because I don't believe that. I believe that every one of them are doing their jobs appropriately

548
00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:58,940
and I've never said anything contrary to that. So that was completely unjust. Now moving forward for the

549
00:50:58,940 --> 00:51:00,740
is facing a difficult budget year.

550
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:01,720
Understand that.

551
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,460
We want to to help for fiscal 2027.

552
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,580
I'd like to commit additional 200,000.

553
00:51:08,940 --> 00:51:10,980
That's legally available from the Sheriff's Office

554
00:51:10,980 --> 00:51:14,460
As a force response to our computer hardware, software,

555
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,200
technology, licensing, subscription,

556
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,300
and related law enforcement system expenses.

557
00:51:23,180 --> 00:51:25,280
And these are so that these attacks

558
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,440
pairs won't have to provide.

559
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,420
will help the general funds are 2027.

560
00:51:30,860 --> 00:51:36,540
This is a practical way that I can help address the current fiscal situation that we're in.

561
00:51:36,980 --> 00:51:44,320
This will provide the necessary services for the jail, dispatch, investigative records, and public safety operations.

562
00:51:46,420 --> 00:51:57,300
This doesn't change the legal requirements for what I have to do to use the asset for the funds, but I can't use them for that.

563
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:06,900
And also, this is going to say that we're trying to do what I can do to help the county

564
00:52:06,900 --> 00:52:15,340
take the burden off the taxpayers in fiscal this fiscal year, in 2026, I've either spent or

565
00:52:15,340 --> 00:52:18,740
allocated around a million dollars from asset for which it funds.

566
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:24,920
And in 2027, I've already got around 500,000 set aside.

567
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:33,580
of additional, like I said, additional 200,000, I believe I can do. I do this in good faith,

568
00:52:33,780 --> 00:52:40,780
trying to help solve problems. Again, the statement that we've read in the beginning during

569
00:52:40,780 --> 00:52:48,700
public testimony, I don't know what I came from. That doesn't help solve problems.

570
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:54,120
I've never

571
00:52:54,120 --> 00:53:01,060
against the county attorney, and it's all I'd like to see it, so I can address it.

572
00:53:01,300 --> 00:53:02,020
It's all I have.

573
00:53:05,980 --> 00:53:08,040
Okay, so we have

574
00:53:15,270 --> 00:53:21,950
a whole small request on two, three, four, three,

575
00:53:30,850 --> 00:53:35,610
four, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, ten, ten, ten, ten, ten, ten, ten, ten, ten, ten, ten, ten, ten, ten, ten, ten, ten, ten.

576
00:53:37,970 --> 00:53:42,010
That total $1.9 million.

577
00:53:46,060 --> 00:53:51,560
The first one is salary for deputy over

578
00:53:55,820 --> 00:53:57,940
time, $35,000.

579
00:54:03,220 --> 00:54:04,780
What I'm trying to do

580
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,480
is I'm trying to grasp.

581
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:12,520
I'm trying to grasp this.

582
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,960
I'm trying to understand it, I'm trying to wrap it around my head.

583
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,420
I

584
00:54:20,710 --> 00:54:25,850
don't understand how it can jump from

585
00:54:28,350 --> 00:54:41,250
nearly three years ago, two years ago, from running the budget, what we had it, to having to increase why I'm almost $2 million.

586
00:54:46,060 --> 00:54:46,760
And

587
00:54:49,070 --> 00:54:59,370
what we're trying to do is we're trying to make sure you have what you have to do your job.

588
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:14,270
All these other requests that you have is the 1.4 million. Because what we have to do all together

589
00:55:16,700 --> 00:55:21,080
is make sure that at 1.4 is not spent.

590
00:55:22,140 --> 00:55:24,080
I'm not even talking about the other requests.

591
00:55:24,260 --> 00:55:31,200
The other requests, I don't even know if I can even consider approving.

592
00:55:35,470 --> 00:55:45,500
We have to do every single thing we can at the shares department to make sure things are

593
00:55:45,500 --> 00:55:47,600
getting done as efficient as possible.

594
00:55:50,620 --> 00:55:52,700
The 1.4,

595
00:55:56,580 --> 00:56:01,160
I don't want to say I understand because I still don't approve, even though

596
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:05,380
I know it might be spent if that makes any sense.

597
00:56:08,780 --> 00:56:09,340
Because

598
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:16,640
I'm afraid that if we approve that 1.4, guess what,

599
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:19,600
we're going to spend that

600
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:23,640
1.4 and that 1.4 is going to be on there a fall on year two.

601
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,040
I don't want to approve this,

602
00:56:32,510 --> 00:56:34,330
and we let go of the gas.

603
00:56:38,710 --> 00:56:51,670
We need to do everything we can, 110%, and what I question, Sheriff, is the amount of inmates

604
00:56:51,670 --> 00:56:53,090
that we can house in there.

605
00:56:53,090 --> 00:57:02,330
And I know we had a presentation earlier and they made the point, they made good points too.

606
00:57:02,410 --> 00:57:09,490
And that's one of their biggest questions that need to be addressed because

607
00:57:12,020 --> 00:57:15,620
we should be able to.

608
00:57:17,620 --> 00:57:18,160
And especially.

609
00:57:20,380 --> 00:57:26,200
With the amount of painters we have right now, which we're almost fully stopped for it.

610
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:31,100
Yes, fully safe with lacking too.

611
00:57:34,290 --> 00:57:42,210
It's undermining the inclination that we can do better and have to do better and need to do better

612
00:57:43,910 --> 00:57:51,750
to house more inmates here, to cut the bleed because our constituents, our taxpayers need to understand

613
00:57:51,750 --> 00:57:57,210
when we house inmates somewhere else.

614
00:57:57,210 --> 00:58:05,570
We're not only getting a bill to house them, we're getting medical bills and we're getting

615
00:58:05,570 --> 00:58:12,970
prescription bills and we're trying, we're trying, I know you're trying, I'm not saying

616
00:58:12,970 --> 00:58:13,210
that.

617
00:58:13,670 --> 00:58:16,090
That's not what I'm saying.

618
00:58:17,950 --> 00:58:20,190
These are things that have to be done.

619
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:26,740
the more we have here, the less we pay over there.

620
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,160
And to

621
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,240
approve today, 1.9,

622
00:58:35,870 --> 00:58:38,110
let me explain it,

623
00:58:38,210 --> 00:58:40,630
the way a county judge is gonna seize this.

624
00:58:41,070 --> 00:58:45,990
The way I see it is, we're trying to stay at the 0.767,

625
00:58:47,030 --> 00:58:47,390
okay?

626
00:58:48,010 --> 00:58:52,030
I'm not just saying this to pool stuff out of my head,

627
00:58:52,990 --> 00:58:54,270
or a lack of a better word.

628
00:58:55,110 --> 00:59:02,550
I'm saying this because I'm looking forward, we have an evaluation of our gel that's fixing

629
00:59:02,550 --> 00:59:06,290
to be completed and we just approve the architects and engineers.

630
00:59:07,770 --> 00:59:14,570
So if the recommendation is that we're going to go out for a bond for a new gel,

631
00:59:17,500 --> 00:59:17,700
we are

632
00:59:17,700 --> 00:59:21,740
looking at raising taxes by three cents, okay?

633
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:34,040
We're at 767 right now. 0.767. If we raise taxes at all right now here by the 25th of September.

634
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:36,860
1 cent,

635
00:59:41,780 --> 00:59:43,220
0.77,

636
00:59:46,270 --> 00:59:50,010
we have to go out for a bond for $28 million to raise it 3 cents.

637
00:59:50,510 --> 00:59:52,470
We're going to hit our cap at 80.

638
00:59:55,420 --> 00:59:59,980
Sure. This is what I see. This is what I look at. This is.

639
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:12,360
Make sure that we stay here because we don't stay here. We can't do this. Any type of catastrophe that we have, we will not be able to address.

640
01:00:16,090 --> 01:00:19,650
That's the bottom line. Those are the facts.

641
01:00:19,650 --> 01:00:21,750
I'm not pulling no punches.

642
01:00:22,050 --> 01:00:25,070
I'm not doing anything if it was the share of department.

643
01:00:25,190 --> 01:00:30,150
It was the DAs of whoever's department was, I'd be saying the same thing.

644
01:00:30,950 --> 01:00:35,110
The only thing that's going to save us if our valuations are higher.

645
01:00:36,550 --> 01:00:37,770
And we get more revenue.

646
01:00:40,500 --> 01:00:43,580
This is what causes a county judge to lose sleep at night.

647
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:52,240
And I'm not trying to be trying to put on this show or anything like that.

648
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:57,620
I'm stating the facts and I'm stating the facts about the 1.9 request

649
01:01:01,710 --> 01:01:02,490
for it.

650
01:01:04,090 --> 01:01:05,830
I got several things to say.

651
01:01:06,010 --> 01:01:13,230
One is I don't think that building a new jail given our current situation is a proper solution.

652
01:01:14,470 --> 01:01:17,470
I've never said we need to go build a new jail.

653
01:01:18,610 --> 01:01:23,510
And the reason I don't I say that is because housing an inmate across the street

654
01:01:23,510 --> 01:01:30,910
costs about it's over $300 a day. We're paying $70 a day at my recounting for $75 a day

655
01:01:32,070 --> 01:01:37,790
at think of a deal and about $73 a day at Jim Hall County. What we need to do is

656
01:01:37,790 --> 01:01:42,910
need to house as many inmates as we can possibly here because of the amount of money a cost to run

657
01:01:42,910 --> 01:01:47,910
the facility stays the same. You're correct and we will evaluate that and we'll want to house

658
01:01:47,910 --> 01:01:51,990
as many inmates as we can but you also get understand that we're having to transport back and forth

659
01:01:51,990 --> 01:01:56,810
court and all these things we have to make room for for those things when they when they

660
01:01:56,810 --> 01:02:04,150
happen. So we have to we have to we have to make space to fill the space above for for court.

661
01:02:05,610 --> 01:02:11,850
And so the daily inmate housing that we can house daily changes depending on what the court

662
01:02:11,850 --> 01:02:17,670
schedule is and what our transport schedules are. I will operate the jail as efficiently as I can

663
01:02:17,670 --> 01:02:20,990
staying within the Texas Commission on jail standard rules and regulations.

664
01:02:20,990 --> 01:02:24,970
When I violate those, you don't want me to because it involves an old county.

665
01:02:26,590 --> 01:02:27,930
I'm not saying we need to build a jail.

666
01:02:28,150 --> 01:02:30,070
I'm saying if we're going to keep this jail elite,

667
01:02:30,070 --> 01:02:31,210
we need a plan.

668
01:02:31,570 --> 01:02:33,990
We need a long-term plan.

669
01:02:34,770 --> 01:02:39,710
Until then, we need to, if one door goes down, that 12 inmates I can't,

670
01:02:39,830 --> 01:02:44,330
if the toilet doesn't flush in one door, that could be 12 inmates I cannot house there.

671
01:02:45,050 --> 01:02:47,530
Now, I got to get that fixed as soon as I can.

672
01:02:47,530 --> 01:02:51,690
But then it's something else goes down if they intercom one intercom goes down

673
01:02:52,630 --> 01:02:55,030
Then I have to move 12 inmates

674
01:02:55,030 --> 01:02:59,550
You know depending on which dormant it is that's what affects the daily

675
01:03:00,650 --> 01:03:02,870
amount of inmates I can house in the jail

676
01:03:03,930 --> 01:03:04,450
I

677
01:03:04,450 --> 01:03:10,090
We need to estimate we need the assessment so we know how to move forward and a long-term plan

678
01:03:10,090 --> 01:03:12,510
I'm not advocating building a jail next year

679
01:03:12,510 --> 01:03:16,610
I'm not advocating raising blood. I'm not advocating any of that we need to repair the jail

680
01:03:16,610 --> 01:03:22,030
so that we don't have the toilets messing up, the intercombs not working, so that I can

681
01:03:22,030 --> 01:03:25,350
house as many inmates as I possibly can in that jail.

682
01:03:25,850 --> 01:03:33,990
But to say, we need to hire additional staff, no, because it is still cheaper to house inmates

683
01:03:33,990 --> 01:03:37,350
on contract than it is for us to house a mobile cost street.

684
01:03:37,930 --> 01:03:41,310
But we have to have the facility because we have to book them in, we have to take inmates

685
01:03:41,310 --> 01:03:43,450
from other agencies, we have to do all of these things.

686
01:03:43,450 --> 01:03:52,170
So we need to make it that. I agree. We need as many indicators we can house over there. We will we have to comply with the deal

687
01:03:52,170 --> 01:03:59,370
the test the laws that govern the the operation of the deal that's all that's all I'm trying to do

688
01:04:00,530 --> 01:04:01,130
Now

689
01:04:02,050 --> 01:04:06,670
Whatever they didn't pass you know, I don't know if we had

690
01:04:08,010 --> 01:04:13,350
Someone made a statement judge and I'm not trying to say anything negative about it

691
01:04:13,350 --> 01:04:19,110
that it was unformed about at one point we had 87 inmates being housed at the jail.

692
01:04:19,290 --> 01:04:22,330
That's technically that's impossible because we're only rated at 88.

693
01:04:23,630 --> 01:04:27,370
And if we go over 90 percent, you got to also have outstanding technical commission on jailstanders.

694
01:04:28,170 --> 01:04:32,510
We cannot, if we have 88 beds, let's just say that they were all working and that we could

695
01:04:32,510 --> 01:04:34,710
house that many, which we can't.

696
01:04:34,810 --> 01:04:39,630
But let's say they were, there is still, if you go over 90 percent, you got to have headroom.

697
01:04:39,630 --> 01:04:44,670
If you go over 80% is where the text commission on jail standards recommends that you stay,

698
01:04:45,130 --> 01:04:47,710
if you go over 90% and they come down and ask questions,

699
01:04:47,890 --> 01:04:49,970
just why you're over 90%.

700
01:04:49,970 --> 01:04:54,130
And then they put into a place to get that number back down.

701
01:04:54,990 --> 01:04:57,130
So just because you have this number of beds,

702
01:04:57,950 --> 01:04:59,210
even if everything was operational.

703
01:05:00,530 --> 01:05:09,150
Now, that you need to, if you want to, the county attorney to look at those rules and regulations, that's fine.

704
01:05:09,610 --> 01:05:10,970
I don't know. That's why they had.

705
01:05:11,390 --> 01:05:15,870
I don't, I haven't heard anybody use that number.

706
01:05:16,630 --> 01:05:22,710
The number I use last on Tuesday or Wednesday was 74.

707
01:05:24,330 --> 01:05:33,430
because I think last year, we house 74 this year, we're housing this and 4th, and I think

708
01:05:34,070 --> 01:05:41,430
that's a big disparity where we are at and where we can be.

709
01:05:41,810 --> 01:05:46,050
And what we would definitely look into that and do the best we can, but like I said, we need

710
01:05:46,050 --> 01:05:52,150
the repairs done, we talked about doing repairs, you're going out for RFQs, we decided to wait

711
01:05:52,150 --> 01:05:57,250
those to be got that the RFQ's back is that true is that correct? That's what we decided

712
01:05:57,250 --> 01:06:02,070
what's the best thing to do? Maybe there's some miscommunication because

713
01:06:04,090 --> 01:06:09,290
or what's not being used right now we can't wait for that we need if there's some

714
01:06:09,290 --> 01:06:15,510
if there's some some repairs that we can do now that we can house some that's get it done.

715
01:06:15,510 --> 01:06:27,110
get it done because that evaluation is going to be done. I am thinking we won't get that for another 90 days.

716
01:06:27,170 --> 01:06:32,790
So I'm talking about the old jail side and the reason I want to hold on that is because we can only house

717
01:06:32,790 --> 01:06:39,310
medium of minimum security inmates in the old jail side. So we were talking about repairs on the old

718
01:06:39,310 --> 01:06:44,990
side with the bars, they're just bars, they're not. We can't use those to house medium or

719
01:06:44,990 --> 01:06:50,670
high security inmates anymore according to text commission on jail standards. So we may have one

720
01:06:50,670 --> 01:06:56,590
maybe three inmates tops, the trusty type of inmates that we can put there and we still put them

721
01:06:56,590 --> 01:07:03,450
there. But to go and fix everything over there to me is a waste of tax dollars because you can

722
01:07:03,450 --> 01:07:11,010
I can house those other inmates at Maverick County at $70 a day instead of $323 a day.

723
01:07:11,050 --> 01:07:14,130
So how many can you house on the New York part?

724
01:07:15,030 --> 01:07:19,430
I'd have to get, I mean, I don't have the numbers in front of me, I'm just over here trying to answer.

725
01:07:20,110 --> 01:07:25,050
I know that we're definitely what we're at.

726
01:07:25,170 --> 01:07:26,910
I'll see if we can increase what we're doing.

727
01:07:27,330 --> 01:07:30,250
I'll look and we'll look at the jail standards rules again.

728
01:07:30,810 --> 01:07:32,130
I'll reevaluate them.

729
01:07:32,670 --> 01:07:37,000
It's it's it will definitely do the best we can but it's not going to be

730
01:07:38,610 --> 01:07:39,610
Enough look

731
01:07:39,610 --> 01:07:41,710
When you run the arrests

732
01:07:42,810 --> 01:07:44,510
Reports since 2021

733
01:07:45,450 --> 01:07:50,130
They're pretty much the same in 2022. They spike for some reason but other than that they've been pretty well

734
01:07:50,130 --> 01:07:54,830
1800 arrests per year and it hasn't changed

735
01:07:54,830 --> 01:08:01,150
Now the what has changed is a violent nature of the rest and I've never said anything about the course

736
01:08:01,150 --> 01:08:07,890
because when we have, when we go from a misdemeanor and you know, and the judges or whatever

737
01:08:08,510 --> 01:08:14,870
the J.P. or whatever bonds they sent, I've never questioned that, that's not my lane.

738
01:08:14,890 --> 01:08:20,850
I'll try to stay in my lane. But the number of arrests have not increased. The violent nature of the

739
01:08:20,850 --> 01:08:27,550
offences may have increased. And so that could be contributing to a lot of this.

740
01:08:30,410 --> 01:08:35,990
I don't, once the rest is made, that's all, that's all I can do.

741
01:08:36,390 --> 01:08:41,890
The rest is up to, and this may be where I'm getting the judges and the courts and the

742
01:08:41,890 --> 01:08:45,250
probation, they're like, I'm attacking, I'm not attacking them for doing their job.

743
01:08:46,170 --> 01:08:48,190
I don't want to let anybody go on a person out of jail.

744
01:08:49,490 --> 01:09:02,210
I'm just saying that everybody is coming at me and attacking me for something that's on my line out on budget that many departments touch that I can't control.

745
01:09:03,170 --> 01:09:03,990
That's what I'm saying.

746
01:09:04,790 --> 01:09:11,310
Now, I don't think the judges or the JPEs or probation, I think they have to do their job as well.

747
01:09:11,310 --> 01:09:24,910
This is something that we all have to face. It's something we all have to come to together and to and work together on, but coming in and attacking me, or saying something I've never said, I don't understand. That's not going to solve anything.

748
01:09:24,910 --> 01:09:30,410
So let's really back to budget.

749
01:10:07,570 --> 01:10:12,430
So aside from the 1.4 for President attention,

750
01:10:15,100 --> 01:10:24,910
we have another 528,527 dollars in request.

751
01:10:25,670 --> 01:10:29,510
Is that counting the 200,000, I took off?

752
01:10:30,970 --> 01:10:41,350
So here we have a computer hardware and software that was 128,000 requested, is that what's going to take?

753
01:10:41,610 --> 01:10:42,670
I'll take that off.

754
01:10:42,850 --> 01:10:46,630
What 200,000 is what I'm going to add to the budget for a computer hardware software.

755
01:10:47,430 --> 01:10:54,390
Anything else that comes up for like, for example, replacing computers which I authorized yesterday, stuff like that.

756
01:10:54,390 --> 01:11:00,910
Okay, so the 528 minus 200,000, 32857,

757
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:12,760
32857, 32857.

758
01:11:18,730 --> 01:11:20,510
Send the on-prisitor detention,

759
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:29,060
on-prisitor detention.

760
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,180
We have a separable

761
01:11:34,420 --> 01:11:41,460
line item somewhere in a budget other than the sheriff's department.

762
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:57,420
If we approve anything of this sort of the 1.4 million, just like it was mentioned earlier,

763
01:11:58,940 --> 01:12:02,340
it will continue to be on the share of budget,

764
01:12:04,370 --> 01:12:06,990
even if we rectify the problem.

765
01:12:07,570 --> 01:12:07,590
Correct?

766
01:12:10,190 --> 01:12:10,850
What's the question?

767
01:12:10,850 --> 01:12:21,250
Okay, so if we add 1.4 million prisoner detention into his current budget, and his current budget.

768
01:12:24,500 --> 01:12:25,740
Do you really put any other questions?

769
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:26,400
Yes, sir.

770
01:12:26,820 --> 01:12:28,040
Six hundred.

771
01:12:28,580 --> 01:12:29,360
Current budget.

772
01:12:30,300 --> 01:12:33,580
8.769 for 2026.

773
01:12:33,620 --> 01:12:35,140
8.769.

774
01:12:36,060 --> 01:12:37,980
Page 33.

775
01:12:41,140 --> 01:12:43,720
That was estimated for 2026.

776
01:12:43,720 --> 01:13:01,040
only 27, the proposed budget is $7,7 million, $1,140,512, so if we add the $1.4, that's going to increase it to $8.5.

777
01:13:02,140 --> 01:13:06,060
Okay, so if we

778
01:13:09,030 --> 01:13:15,810
do that, I'm just going to be like that every time coming here.

779
01:13:16,690 --> 01:13:24,730
we put that in a different spot where it doesn't increase his budget by the bottom line.

780
01:13:25,550 --> 01:13:30,630
Because if we do that, is it be harder to take it off later on down real quick?

781
01:13:30,990 --> 01:13:33,890
Not necessarily. I mean, every budget year you all have the,

782
01:13:34,990 --> 01:13:40,450
they have the room to, it will be a freezer decrease. But as far as a prisoner detention,

783
01:13:41,250 --> 01:13:45,570
I mean, that particular expense is a share of department expense. So,

784
01:13:45,570 --> 01:13:48,050
for financial and accounting purposes and principles.

785
01:13:48,290 --> 01:13:49,230
It does have to be in there.

786
01:13:49,990 --> 01:13:51,990
Now, can I, and I know that this sheriff's question,

787
01:13:52,970 --> 01:13:57,950
he had asked before if we can item my prisoner,

788
01:13:58,570 --> 01:14:02,410
transport, prisoner, what was the other line item?

789
01:14:02,570 --> 01:14:04,430
I wanted to separate detention from transport.

790
01:14:05,010 --> 01:14:06,950
Yeah, so I mean, I can create those two.

791
01:14:06,990 --> 01:14:08,510
I can split them up.

792
01:14:08,530 --> 01:14:10,650
Could you put any reserve and contingency

793
01:14:10,650 --> 01:14:11,870
for the sheriff's department?

794
01:14:12,330 --> 01:14:13,810
And that would be another option

795
01:14:13,810 --> 01:14:15,230
because I could do that as well.

796
01:14:15,230 --> 01:14:22,370
I mean, but it's still going to be in the sheriff's department as it should be, but yes, we can do a reserve for contingency just in the sheriff's department.

797
01:14:23,130 --> 01:14:26,390
Well, uh, it's not, we'll that affect the SB 22 money.

798
01:14:26,410 --> 01:14:30,070
And I understand what you're saying, Judge, and I agree with you.

799
01:14:30,310 --> 01:14:35,450
We don't want to raise it where if we can get this under control and the prisoner attention shuts comes down.

800
01:14:36,010 --> 01:14:41,930
The role is, from here to here, if we lower the sheriff's office budget, we lose the SB 22 money, which I don't want to lose.

801
01:14:41,930 --> 01:14:45,930
that's I think that's what the just concern is would be my concern.

802
01:14:47,430 --> 01:14:50,610
We would not because right now it has not been.

803
01:14:51,230 --> 01:14:54,930
We haven't decreased it but we could if we did.

804
01:14:55,710 --> 01:14:59,910
Put it aside in a reserve for contingency in the sheriff's department.

805
01:15:00,980 --> 01:15:07,620
And that estimate of 1.4, and we go from 600,000 to 2 million, what the 1.4.

806
01:15:09,540 --> 01:15:14,790
That estimate is what we need.

807
01:15:16,090 --> 01:15:26,190
Based on the 2020-6 projections, it's at 2.23, but I believe that we can, again, try to increase

808
01:15:26,190 --> 01:15:32,250
me looking at what we can increase before I even came here. Try to increase. More inmates

809
01:15:32,250 --> 01:15:38,070
we house over there trying to separate the transport. We're doing a lot of transport ourselves

810
01:15:38,990 --> 01:15:42,810
with overtime, but we're obviously running out of overtime too.

811
01:15:43,270 --> 01:15:47,550
But I think that we can maintain. I'm trying to try to maintain.

812
01:15:47,630 --> 01:15:50,510
Don't do the best I can to maintain at that point.

813
01:15:51,550 --> 01:15:57,690
So I just commissioners, I don't think, if you, you raised it by 1.4 million, it was going

814
01:15:57,690 --> 01:16:00,070
to happen next year, 1.9 to 2 million.

815
01:16:00,910 --> 01:16:07,610
I don't think we should increase any amount and of that detention funding,

816
01:16:10,010 --> 01:16:11,550
you know, along

817
01:16:11,550 --> 01:16:17,230
with being an elected official, come to responsibility and the problem is to come with it.

818
01:16:17,230 --> 01:16:20,690
So I'm against any increase

819
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:29,320
in Brazil.

820
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:34,400
I just like to say just one thing, which I've said over and over again, which still

821
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:42,880
remains true, is I am statutorily obligated to accept all the inmates that come into this

822
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:44,000
county jail.

823
01:16:44,260 --> 01:16:45,600
That's the least one no matter.

824
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:51,360
I know that we're not the only county facing these issues.

825
01:16:51,540 --> 01:16:54,800
I think there's start county.

826
01:16:55,340 --> 01:16:56,920
Maybe a couple of other counties.

827
01:16:57,460 --> 01:17:01,640
I think we need to collaborate with them

828
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:05,560
to see what they're doing with the rest

829
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:07,380
with different type of offenses.

830
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:12,020
Maybe we can adopt some of those procedures

831
01:17:12,020 --> 01:17:16,660
and alleviate some of some of the issues that we have.

832
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:24,020
I think if it oozes to call the different counties and collaborate with them,

833
01:17:25,220 --> 01:17:27,960
to save as much as we can.

834
01:17:28,020 --> 01:17:33,060
Every single penny that we could save by adopting any of those procedures

835
01:17:33,060 --> 01:17:34,540
that they're doing.

836
01:17:39,420 --> 01:17:45,180
I'd like to say a few other things, you know, we have expenses from Joe Detention and Joe

837
01:17:45,180 --> 01:17:53,300
Medical expenses from year 2020. 23, 24, they started going up. 23 was 3,067 for

838
01:17:53,300 --> 01:18:02,160
attention 24 they bumped up to 454,000 okay 25 I'm double to 725,000 or

839
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:10,000
inmate housing then 2026 1.739 I could understand there was a gradual increase

840
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:16,840
but a dramatic increase of almost over a million dollars that's just too much

841
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:28,760
for me to swallow. Also medical expense is been a consistency to the year 2025, 206, it doubled

842
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:37,440
437,000 dollars in medical expense, hospital medical expense. Only 5 was 173,000. So those

843
01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:43,080
numbers to me, they're just too extremely high, too extremely of a jump.

844
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:52,240
I agree with you. I don't like the numbers either. The simple hard, just honest answer

845
01:18:52,240 --> 01:19:01,780
to that is that statutorily the county has to pay those funds. They have to take an

846
01:19:01,780 --> 01:19:13,060
inmate, take care of the medical costs. If they're in our custody and they have to have a

847
01:19:13,060 --> 01:19:15,120
would be liable if we did not.

848
01:19:15,440 --> 01:19:18,680
Uh, we, I mean, I don't like them either.

849
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:20,140
Uh, I can make sure I get all right.

850
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,160
I don't, I don't, I wish we could bring them down.

851
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:26,740
If there was something I could do, I'll tell you what, you guys don't, probably don't know

852
01:19:26,740 --> 01:19:28,660
maybe I should, uh, make a log.

853
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,280
I have hospitals building me every time.

854
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:39,280
I have a curve that checks every bill, uh, Mr. Smithwick, and I, I sign a denial on payment

855
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:43,080
two or three denials every single day from

856
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:16,640
Do we owe this bill or would we not? I'm already doing that. I've been doing that. I don't know if it was being done before, but I am doing that. If they were in our custody and we took them there, we owe the bill. And I can't legally not provide the medical care.

857
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:25,400
I don't know. I don't know how else to say it. That's, that's a law. I don't, I don't not the numbers either.

858
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:29,920
And I said, we're not the only county dealing with this.

859
01:20:32,330 --> 01:20:35,390
There was changes to the law on the court side, when it has to

860
01:20:35,390 --> 01:20:45,690
do with certain violent offenders and then being able to get bond, they have to buy by those

861
01:20:45,690 --> 01:20:51,630
rules and those new laws that were established. I understand that. I agree with it.

862
01:20:53,570 --> 01:20:59,650
But a lot of these things are what contributes to this. It's not one day I decided to spend

863
01:20:59,650 --> 01:21:04,570
more money. It doesn't go in my pocket. It's not like I decided one more day just to keep

864
01:21:04,570 --> 01:21:06,190
everybody in jail,

865
01:21:08,260 --> 01:21:12,000
you know, we need to come together and find the solution, I agree.

866
01:21:13,380 --> 01:21:16,780
But blaming one person and telling them what's on your budget and I know I'm so you need

867
01:21:16,780 --> 01:21:17,540
to fix it.

868
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:18,740
That's not going to solve it.

869
01:21:35,530 --> 01:21:42,670
We don't have a lot for any money for the prison or detention and, like the sheriff said,

870
01:21:42,670 --> 01:21:46,990
you know, it's not up to him and he doesn't know how many people are going to cause problems

871
01:21:46,990 --> 01:21:48,610
in Jim Wells County and they're going to come.

872
01:21:49,290 --> 01:21:54,570
If we don't a lot for any money in the extra money, then where are they going to go?

873
01:21:54,870 --> 01:21:55,510
What are we going to do?

874
01:21:55,710 --> 01:22:02,390
That's, some has to be done, you know, yeah, we're going to get the gel fixed, but I mean,

875
01:22:05,450 --> 01:22:06,550
you know, he has no control.

876
01:22:07,330 --> 01:22:15,310
How many people are coming in every day that the JPEs take care of or, you know, how fast the

877
01:22:15,310 --> 01:22:17,590
the courts are going through or whatever, I mean,

878
01:22:20,490 --> 01:22:22,450
we can't also have an open checkbook

879
01:22:22,450 --> 01:22:27,850
either. I said, we can't have an open checkbook either.

880
01:22:31,670 --> 01:22:33,410
I'm just making that statement, not

881
01:22:33,410 --> 01:22:36,930
to me off what you said. I just, I know understand what you're saying, but I'm just saying

882
01:22:36,930 --> 01:22:43,950
that the county cannot have an open checkbook for every extreme expense at everybody. I mean,

883
01:22:44,070 --> 01:22:49,110
some departments go over. I mean, we all stay with under budget and it's, it's hard,

884
01:22:49,130 --> 01:22:54,990
it's complicated. But you know, we do what we can and I think every department should do the

885
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:02,340
there's no doubt that you're going to spend over $600,000. There's no doubt that

886
01:23:02,340 --> 01:23:05,520
the exact amount we do not know.

887
01:23:07,580 --> 01:23:09,820
I think, you know, setting aside a

888
01:23:09,820 --> 01:23:18,700
reserving contingency would be an option, but I just don't know. You're saying

889
01:23:18,700 --> 01:23:27,540
something about, you can house somebody out of the county cheaper than you can

890
01:23:27,540 --> 01:23:29,540
we need a million tour.

891
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:34,860
Because there's, I've looked at several different models

892
01:23:35,460 --> 01:23:41,920
that we can go to, but it always boils down to,

893
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:43,960
we have to have a booking area.

894
01:23:44,220 --> 01:23:46,320
So unless you shut down the entire jail,

895
01:23:46,660 --> 01:23:49,420
which cuts out all of the maintenance,

896
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:54,060
all of the electricity, everything that goes

897
01:23:54,060 --> 01:23:57,360
with having a facility, you're not going to really

898
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:01,980
save enough money because you still have to book them in, they still have to be a place for

899
01:24:01,980 --> 01:24:05,460
you to hold them, you still have to feed them, you still until you can, and then you can

900
01:24:05,460 --> 01:24:09,080
try to look at, maybe just having a booking is holding in that transport amount.

901
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:14,060
This is not a long-term solution because what if something happens to one of our contracts?

902
01:24:15,260 --> 01:24:19,160
You know, so I decided that's not the best option to go.

903
01:24:19,480 --> 01:24:23,360
Now, we need someone to do an assessment for us.

904
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:28,560
I thought I would argue whoever wins up doing it, I don't want to care, but we need

905
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:35,780
a professional to do that assessment to get a long-term plan that you guys can agree on

906
01:24:35,780 --> 01:24:37,180
and work with.

907
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:42,720
In the meantime, I think we need to give it the deal that we have operational, because the

908
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:53,340
money on my amount of money it costs to have the facility open your, you might as well

909
01:24:53,340 --> 01:24:59,960
You know, I've said over $300 a day, it's still that cost is still going to be there whether you have five inmates there or whether you have 70 inmates there.

910
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:15,740
We have a lot of money to house 75 prisoners within our budget. We've always had it. You know, it's hard to understand why all of a sudden we don't have enough money in the budget.

911
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:17,240
You know, the other side of what I'm saying.

912
01:25:17,860 --> 01:25:28,140
I know what you're saying, but you're wrong and the fact that whenever the ADP went from, it was about 65, when it went up to 65, they started how they already started housing out of county.

913
01:25:28,140 --> 01:25:31,620
And when it out to 75, they were already housing out of county.

914
01:25:32,260 --> 01:25:37,180
So even though you're seeing an ADP number there, there was still contracts with those out of county.

915
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:38,960
For any of the budget, you know, those,

916
01:25:39,480 --> 01:25:44,480
they're talking about up until, yeah, I don't understand that.

917
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:45,300
That part of it served.

918
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:51,920
But up until, you know, way back when when you had 40 inmates, yes, our facility was,

919
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:52,280
was there.

920
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,900
There was even the expansion was done in 2004, I believe.

921
01:25:56,900 --> 01:26:03,240
You know, up until then there was 40 inmates in the jail. I could still hold 40 inmates in the jail.

922
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:08,900
But when the ADP started rising before even I became sure of contract for already.

923
01:26:09,020 --> 01:26:11,700
May 2017 there was a contract made. I don't know how much it was used.

924
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:16,820
But I know for a fact in 2024 there were already when I came here there.

925
01:26:16,980 --> 01:26:18,960
There were already housing inmates outside this county.

926
01:26:19,480 --> 01:26:22,340
This is not something this was a trend has been going

927
01:26:22,340 --> 01:26:27,200
uh uh uh uh uh uh uh not just one I became sheriff and that's what it's being betrayed, that's not true.

928
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:29,000
This chain was already happening.

929
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,000
They were already housing out of people out of county when I'd out here.

930
01:26:32,440 --> 01:26:33,480
When I was left the Sheriff.

931
01:26:35,340 --> 01:26:36,500
It was already on the rise.

932
01:26:47,140 --> 01:26:56,120
If we go with uh with your your proposal, we we're certainly we're not gonna be able to hold the light on the, on the text rate.

933
01:27:03,770 --> 01:27:05,570
The reason we have

934
01:27:05,570 --> 01:27:09,570
our goals and objectives were keeping the tax rate.

935
01:27:09,650 --> 01:27:15,990
The way it is is because in the past, we have approved

936
01:27:15,990 --> 01:27:19,050
up to a negative $2 million budget.

937
01:27:21,010 --> 01:27:23,570
Without having to go to the taxpayers.

938
01:27:24,970 --> 01:27:29,930
And right now, I do not want to go to the taxpayers, right now.

939
01:27:30,130 --> 01:27:31,150
I do not.

940
01:27:31,510 --> 01:27:35,390
And I'm not only because I don't want to do that to the taxpayers,

941
01:27:37,020 --> 01:27:41,880
but also because of the threshold that I spoke about earlier.

942
01:27:45,060 --> 01:27:47,160
So, it's 1027,

943
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:51,580
I'm going to recess for 10 minutes.

944
01:49:42,580 --> 01:49:59,940
Your most County Commissioners Court, for today, September 4, 2026, went to recess at 10.27 a.m., it is 10.48, and we are coming back to regular.

945
01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:13,160
I had a concern here on the jaylers, the request for overtime. And my concern is that if we're not, the

946
01:50:13,160 --> 01:50:14,080
jails not fully,

947
01:50:16,540 --> 01:50:24,620
it's full with the inmates, which maxed out at what is it, 70, we only have 33,

948
01:50:24,940 --> 01:50:27,240
and why would we need an overtime for it?

949
01:50:30,590 --> 01:50:32,070
That's one of my concerns there.

950
01:50:36,550 --> 01:50:46,390
The deal is not messed up at holding 33 in late the overtime, you have to understand it too.

951
01:50:46,690 --> 01:50:47,530
I've already explained this.

952
01:50:48,150 --> 01:50:54,130
We sometimes have to clear out inmates and bring other inmates in to the court.

953
01:50:54,670 --> 01:51:01,430
They would bring those inmates back or keep some of those here depending on what the court has determined.

954
01:51:03,350 --> 01:51:08,330
Some inmates we house here because of, you know, I'm going court processes.

955
01:51:09,070 --> 01:51:13,250
The overtime is for when people are doing, trying to limit the number of contract,

956
01:51:13,290 --> 01:51:15,110
transports they're doing, they do.

957
01:51:15,270 --> 01:51:16,950
And plus, to be honest with you,

958
01:51:18,970 --> 01:51:22,930
the MHMR transports, the juvenile transports, it's more

959
01:51:22,930 --> 01:51:30,550
than just inmates, those can't wait for me to set up with a contract to do those transports.

960
01:51:30,550 --> 01:51:35,710
So the overtime is spent on doing covering shift,

961
01:51:36,170 --> 01:51:38,430
or doing transports that we do ourselves.

962
01:51:39,870 --> 01:51:40,750
We still do that.

963
01:51:41,690 --> 01:51:45,530
I've, it's not that we only use contract transport.

964
01:51:49,850 --> 01:51:54,850
I'm sure if I know you committed 200,000.

965
01:51:55,090 --> 01:51:57,250
For the computer hardware software,

966
01:51:59,310 --> 01:52:02,310
is there any more of that you can use for OT for overtime?

967
01:52:02,310 --> 01:52:08,130
I have been, I will continue to do whatever I have to do to keep the community safe in public safety.

968
01:52:09,110 --> 01:52:11,310
These are what I'm asking for.

969
01:52:13,850 --> 01:52:20,910
Like I said, if that is my requested budget, whatever you give me, I'm gonna do my best.

970
01:52:22,530 --> 01:52:24,050
I'll come back to you if any more.

971
01:52:24,050 --> 01:52:31,610
But I have used, I have used, like I said, it's probably over a million, but right about

972
01:52:31,610 --> 01:52:38,810
close to a million, and July was 930, over 930, $3,000,000 out of that simple for

973
01:52:38,810 --> 01:52:44,050
your funds for law enforcement related expense, that I have used to try to offset taxpayer

974
01:52:44,050 --> 01:52:44,570
dollars.

975
01:52:44,810 --> 01:52:49,450
I will continue to do that as much as I can, I have obligations, I have to, you know, vehicles,

976
01:52:49,730 --> 01:52:53,550
I have to pay for all of those things, I just have to make sure I can complete those

977
01:52:53,550 --> 01:52:59,190
obligations. So it's not that I'm not already doing it. I am.

978
01:53:07,120 --> 01:53:10,820
President attention, we cannot ignore it.

979
01:53:11,980 --> 01:53:13,140
We know it's an issue.

980
01:53:16,770 --> 01:53:18,010
And if we ignore it,

981
01:53:20,860 --> 01:53:22,280
then we may hear

982
01:53:22,280 --> 01:53:24,840
have some backlash when we do our audit.

983
01:53:25,180 --> 01:53:30,220
Have our audit completed. So that was the question that I have for

984
01:53:30,220 --> 01:53:31,720
natural advisors.

985
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:43,220
So we have to do something on the, on the, on the, on the, on the

986
01:53:43,220 --> 01:53:47,540
prisoner detention and whatever we do there,

987
01:53:50,820 --> 01:53:54,000
we will put in a reserve for

988
01:53:54,000 --> 01:54:06,220
and keep a close eye on it and do valid transfers or budget transfers to address them.

989
01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:13,560
Now, the issue at hand is

990
01:54:18,230 --> 01:54:22,770
how many of these are from a prisoner detention.

991
01:54:22,770 --> 01:54:34,720
and so we have prisoner detention, prisoner hospital, and prisoner detention hospital

992
01:54:34,720 --> 01:54:40,340
and those are the only two, sure?

993
01:54:40,860 --> 01:54:42,920
And then for the prisoner detention?

994
01:54:44,020 --> 01:54:44,540
Yes.

995
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:48,380
Right now, the prisoner detention is also,

996
01:54:49,260 --> 01:54:53,380
We'll include it in the transport, yes, in the rest.

997
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,460
Further further prisoner detention?

998
01:55:03,340 --> 01:55:11,920
Yes. Right now the prison detention is also included in the rest.

999
01:55:17,490 --> 01:55:23,210
So, that being said, we do have to do something about the prison detention.

1000
01:55:23,210 --> 01:55:38,190
And my recommendation for the court is still remaining with the same tax rate, 0.767

1001
01:55:40,150 --> 01:55:49,150
because with the 767 anything other than President attention is going to lower our negative

1002
01:55:49,150 --> 01:55:49,990
from last year.

1003
01:55:50,030 --> 01:55:52,010
That means we're making tremendous progress.

1004
01:55:52,010 --> 01:55:56,750
The only issue is the prisoner detention.

1005
01:55:58,130 --> 01:56:07,410
So that being said will remain the same tax rate

1006
01:56:12,820 --> 01:56:15,740
where we'll address the prisoner detention.

1007
01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:19,700
And at the end of the year, next year,

1008
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:23,420
where over it's going to hit our fund balance.

1009
01:56:25,100 --> 01:56:27,660
And we won't have to raise taxes right now

1010
01:56:27,660 --> 01:56:33,700
or do anything of the sort to go to our tax predicts.

1011
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:39,900
So what we got a figure right now is that number.

1012
01:56:41,970 --> 01:56:45,730
And if we want to approve any other of the requests

1013
01:56:46,350 --> 01:56:48,870
aside from President or detention.

1014
01:56:49,670 --> 01:56:52,570
Judge, I'm kind of question, and it's a two-part question,

1015
01:56:53,090 --> 01:56:57,910
because I just was reminded of this, if you do increase

1016
01:56:57,910 --> 01:57:24,910
that amount, and even if you call it a contingency fund, and this probably a question for Cindy, does calling it a contingent budgeting take it out of the SB 1022 consequence, and because once we put that in, if you, if next year we don't need it and try to reduce it, it could have a consequence on SB 22, and the second part of my question is,

1017
01:57:24,910 --> 01:57:31,110
What if that happens? Is that consequence only to the share of the department or would it affect me?

1018
01:57:31,230 --> 01:57:36,910
Because I also get and so does Carlos has been 22 money or would it affect all three of our office?

1019
01:57:37,430 --> 01:57:42,870
So in response to the first question, I think it'll go into the second question. So the first question.

1020
01:57:44,230 --> 01:57:52,430
I think the solution in I-Journey research is what judges kind of alluding to is on the 1.4 million

1021
01:57:52,430 --> 01:58:00,170
that it just will not be put in the sheriff's department line item, but essentially in a

1022
01:58:00,170 --> 01:58:04,810
reserve for contingency in general fun. So it's not even touching the sheriff's

1023
01:58:04,810 --> 01:58:12,770
department budget. So obviously still an expense to general fun. But once he has

1024
01:58:12,770 --> 01:58:19,130
reached his threshold, if y'all leave it where it sits right now, it's 600,000. So as he

1025
01:58:19,130 --> 01:58:27,250
reaches that 600,000, let's say April, he reaches a 600,000, or June, or anything after that.

1026
01:58:27,650 --> 01:58:34,530
He would have to request a budget amendment from reserve for contingency, because that money

1027
01:58:34,530 --> 01:58:40,130
will be sitting not in his expense, but in the general fund reserve for contingency, bring

1028
01:58:40,130 --> 01:58:46,030
it's a court and court approves as it is necessary.

1029
01:58:46,890 --> 01:58:52,990
So that way it will not affect, because yes, it would affect all the other entities

1030
01:58:52,990 --> 01:58:54,750
as far as S.B. is concerned.

1031
01:58:56,090 --> 01:59:00,750
So that would be the solution to put it in general fund reserve for contingency.

1032
01:59:01,410 --> 01:59:08,210
Okay, and but as the year progresses and we are moving money from the reserve to the

1033
01:59:10,750 --> 01:59:19,350
And let's say in 2028, we don't need as much any more budgeted in there and we try to come down.

1034
01:59:19,910 --> 01:59:27,630
That's what triggers because you can't use, they don't want SB 22 to offset to create a savings for the county.

1035
01:59:27,910 --> 01:59:31,190
Yeah, so the safeguard would be to keep it in the reserve for contingency.

1036
01:59:31,250 --> 01:59:33,370
And that will keep it free of the SB 22 current.

1037
01:59:33,370 --> 01:59:33,730
Correct.

1038
01:59:34,490 --> 01:59:42,530
Okay, because I have three employees that completely depend on, I know yourself, Carlos, and, of course, the

1039
01:59:42,530 --> 01:59:47,170
Sheriff's Department has a big chunk that goes to his employees as well.

1040
01:59:48,250 --> 01:59:51,710
We're not going to totally approve this, I'm sure, the point for you.

1041
01:59:52,690 --> 01:59:59,970
Well, you would have to approve, if that's about y'all want to go, you would have to approve the one point.

1042
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:04,760
We need to call, uh, representative from the SB-20 to a verifall.

1043
02:00:04,780 --> 02:00:11,240
Yeah, we can definitely, it's still a moving budget. I mean, we don't finalize and y'all don't adopt the budget till 28th.

1044
02:00:11,340 --> 02:00:22,060
I believe we had a little bit of a change on that, yes. So, yes. So, if we need to call in another workshop to discuss updated numbers, we can, we can do that.

1045
02:00:23,580 --> 02:00:24,940
Okay. Now,

1046
02:00:27,890 --> 02:00:32,530
the question is, what are we going to prove and what are we not going to

1047
02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:35,000
do?

1048
02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:36,200
I

1049
02:00:40,160 --> 02:00:41,900
think the 1.4

1050
02:00:44,980 --> 02:00:48,320
is non-agosible,

1051
02:00:51,860 --> 02:00:57,940
the prison detention hospital that brings us up to 1.7.

1052
02:01:12,230 --> 02:01:18,830
I have a question. Can the prisoner of transport be excluded from the prison or detention

1053
02:01:18,830 --> 02:01:20,770
reserve or contingency?

1054
02:01:24,450 --> 02:01:31,850
Can you exclude the expense of a prisoner transport from the reserve

1055
02:01:31,850 --> 02:01:35,390
content you see when you need the money for prison retention?

1056
02:01:37,030 --> 02:01:41,670
So, in other words, just to signate it to prisoner detention and not transport.

1057
02:01:43,870 --> 02:01:51,030
I mean, I can create a prisoner transport expense line item, but as the proposed budget

1058
02:01:51,030 --> 02:01:53,850
there would be zero dollars in there right now.

1059
02:01:54,390 --> 02:01:58,510
So if you would want to split that 600,000 of that,

1060
02:01:58,710 --> 02:02:01,970
that's in his detention and split it out,

1061
02:02:02,030 --> 02:02:05,330
like 200 for transport and 400 to detention,

1062
02:02:06,130 --> 02:02:07,710
y'all would have to make that decision now.

1063
02:02:07,770 --> 02:02:10,470
I think I was out of that reservant contingency,

1064
02:02:10,470 --> 02:02:12,710
would have to be approved by the court anyway.

1065
02:02:12,750 --> 02:02:13,870
That is correct.

1066
02:02:13,910 --> 02:02:16,350
I really didn't win the...

1067
02:02:17,170 --> 02:02:19,970
But is it going to be limited only to detention, though?

1068
02:02:19,970 --> 02:02:22,110
We'll be trying for anything else.

1069
02:02:22,330 --> 02:02:23,050
That's correct.

1070
02:02:23,110 --> 02:02:23,210
Right.

1071
02:02:23,430 --> 02:02:23,910
Okay.

1072
02:02:24,490 --> 02:02:27,950
So anything that falls into tension and currently what falls in prison or detention

1073
02:02:27,950 --> 02:02:32,090
are the transport bills and the housing bills.

1074
02:02:32,750 --> 02:02:34,670
And just as long as it goes to the court.

1075
02:02:34,950 --> 02:02:35,070
Yes.

1076
02:02:35,250 --> 02:02:35,370
Yes.

1077
02:02:35,490 --> 02:02:36,670
So it would be the.

1078
02:02:38,050 --> 02:02:39,050
And it will have to.

1079
02:02:39,170 --> 02:02:39,850
I'd like to.

1080
02:02:41,710 --> 02:02:42,190
Yeah.

1081
02:02:42,330 --> 02:02:43,970
It's probably this it's sort of.

1082
02:02:45,070 --> 02:02:46,210
Just just for my.

1083
02:02:46,770 --> 02:02:47,250
My.

1084
02:02:47,250 --> 02:02:54,510
understand and you know like when we have a commissar score meeting, could you provide the

1085
02:02:54,510 --> 02:03:00,770
number of preserves you have housing here in Alice and the ones that you're transporting?

1086
02:03:01,750 --> 02:03:11,290
That way we can we can I have an update of how the expenses are occurring, right?

1087
02:03:12,190 --> 02:03:17,230
So starting maybe the next couple of commissar score meeting at

1088
02:03:17,230 --> 02:03:23,390
at the beginning you can, in public speaking you know, just tell us okay, we're housing 35

1089
02:03:23,390 --> 02:03:30,010
prisoners here, 60 over there. It would be something that I would like to have, you know,

1090
02:03:30,110 --> 02:03:35,010
just just to, uh, joker, the expense.

1091
02:03:37,490 --> 02:03:39,330
So I'd give it to the judge, but I know that there

1092
02:03:39,330 --> 02:03:43,750
could be a rolling quorum kind of issue with those kind of emails I've been told.

1093
02:03:43,750 --> 02:03:50,450
reason I don't send it out to everybody that that one that I send breaks it down how many

1094
02:03:50,450 --> 02:03:51,750
amateurs are elsewhere.

1095
02:03:54,690 --> 02:03:59,010
I mean we could he just want to know like each commissioner's court

1096
02:03:59,830 --> 02:04:07,910
for that day. I may be able to help Sheriff because we get from from Sergeant Salas we get

1097
02:04:09,570 --> 02:04:15,190
So every Tuesday, for the past couple of Tuesdays, I've been sending it out to basically

1098
02:04:15,190 --> 02:04:20,670
everybody and the criminal justice stakeholders for the same reason, I only copy the

1099
02:04:20,670 --> 02:04:23,570
judge because I can't copy the whole court.

1100
02:04:23,910 --> 02:04:23,930
Right.

1101
02:04:23,930 --> 02:04:24,410
That's right.

1102
02:04:24,590 --> 02:04:29,910
So if you all want, you can come to a judge's office and Isabelle can print one out for

1103
02:04:29,910 --> 02:04:30,150
you.

1104
02:04:30,490 --> 02:04:35,570
But we do that every Tuesday and it has it broken down by total number of inmates, total number

1105
02:04:35,570 --> 02:04:40,410
inmates here. Recently, it's been fabricated in Jim Hogg because I don't think we're using

1106
02:04:40,410 --> 02:04:45,610
geo at least recently anymore. Not as I said, they're more difficult to deal with this.

1107
02:04:45,870 --> 02:04:51,270
Yeah. So, but that comes out every Tuesday. Usually we get it before noon and by five o'clock

1108
02:04:51,270 --> 02:04:59,610
that day, it goes out to all the judges, clerks, staff, probation, everybody can get copied on that.

1109
02:05:20,980 --> 02:05:21,900
I recommend

1110
02:05:25,930 --> 02:05:27,710
that we,

1111
02:05:38,520 --> 02:05:39,160
one point

1112
02:05:47,060 --> 02:05:53,830
for President attention and President of the hospital, and we keep a close eye on it.

1113
02:05:54,390 --> 02:05:57,490
We'll put that on the paper for continues.

1114
02:06:00,430 --> 02:06:12,700
As far as the other ones, I can't approve those or I can't approve those or I can't approve those or rules.

1115
02:06:21,460 --> 02:06:26,340
So you want to approve a million five the server constituency

1116
02:06:27,420 --> 02:06:32,820
which would be available, you know, in case we need it, you know, right?

1117
02:06:34,120 --> 02:06:34,280
And

1118
02:06:36,040 --> 02:06:36,840
And the

1119
02:06:36,840 --> 02:06:39,440
the rest judge for what, what are you talking about?

1120
02:06:39,600 --> 02:06:40,480
Yes sir.

1121
02:06:45,740 --> 02:06:46,940
Well, yeah

1122
02:06:47,760 --> 02:06:48,360
that

1123
02:06:48,360 --> 02:06:50,180
kept a lease payment.

1124
02:06:52,580 --> 02:06:54,080
What is that, Cindy?

1125
02:06:55,620 --> 02:07:05,200
It looks like I guess the Sherkin explained better, but it looks like he was just trying to deduct that and maybe allocate it to some other line items, is that correct?

1126
02:07:06,140 --> 02:07:17,080
So I bought all the vehicles for the Sheriff's Office through Acid Fortressal to try to help this work.

1127
02:07:17,080 --> 02:07:21,240
Traditionally you've given a $50,000 a year for that that purpose

1128
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:24,800
This year I took and

1129
02:07:24,800 --> 02:07:31,420
The stupidity that to help balance the budget, so if you if you if you prove and did not all the rest of that

1130
02:07:31,880 --> 02:07:38,060
They did just you just come into 50,000, but if you if you

1131
02:07:38,060 --> 02:07:38,720
You know

1132
02:07:39,600 --> 02:07:46,900
Again, I'm trying to do the best. I can I all the vehicles that I need to be replaced about them all out of asset four hundred funds

1133
02:07:47,960 --> 02:07:58,260
but I could use that $50,000 for Deputy overtime if you're going to cut everything else because right now you don't have enough money in there to pay for the holiday pay.

1134
02:07:58,560 --> 02:08:06,900
There is no there really is no Deputy overtime. It's whatever staff is working the holidays that every other county employee has to is off.

1135
02:08:07,520 --> 02:08:10,660
Then that's still fall short even paying them their holiday pay.

1136
02:08:14,950 --> 02:08:24,410
So, there's going to be 1.5 in contingency, the bills come in, he exceeds whatever you have there on your budget.

1137
02:08:25,390 --> 02:08:26,670
The bills are still coming in.

1138
02:08:30,640 --> 02:08:32,120
Do we approve this approve?

1139
02:08:34,340 --> 02:08:38,380
You know, it's just, we only approve the transfer and that's it.

1140
02:08:38,460 --> 02:08:39,560
The money's still going to be there.

1141
02:08:41,100 --> 02:08:45,860
Yes, the money is, if you do approve the 1.5 in the reserve for contingency,

1142
02:08:45,860 --> 02:08:53,060
that's placing the money in the budget to where if and when he needs the amount then that's

1143
02:08:53,060 --> 02:08:57,960
when it would have to come to commissioner's court for approval but I mean I get what you're

1144
02:08:57,960 --> 02:09:03,700
saying the services are already rendered at that point and it's hard for you know to deny it.

1145
02:09:07,760 --> 02:09:13,700
I mean, the goal is not to use the two million, but I mean.

1146
02:09:16,980 --> 02:09:21,880
Yeah, well, if you, surely, we're going to use up the 600.

1147
02:09:22,540 --> 02:09:23,720
And then how much of that?

1148
02:09:23,780 --> 02:09:26,320
So you're saying 1.5 in addition to the 600?

1149
02:09:27,680 --> 02:09:29,400
Or does that include the 600?

1150
02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:31,500
That's in addition to the 600.

1151
02:09:32,060 --> 02:09:34,620
Because we're saying we're going to spend $2 million.

1152
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:29,220
Now, I really need to answer to that question, because this becomes the floor from here on. And in 2028, if we want to, we say, okay, we got under control. We need to come down. And we cut that could, that could, we could be punished for that under Senate Bill 22 and that's why that's why we have it in the reserve. Well, that's my question. Is that calling it something else? Because it really, that's just a, yeah, that's just a name.

1153
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:32,240
that does, does the, does the comptroller care?

1154
02:10:32,420 --> 02:10:34,960
Yeah, we'll have to clarify it with the SB representative.

1155
02:10:36,620 --> 02:10:40,300
Well, otherwise, it correct me if I'm wrong.

1156
02:10:40,460 --> 02:10:48,340
I mean, the one point, the reason I say 1.5 is because the request for President attention is 1.4.

1157
02:10:48,880 --> 02:10:53,240
And then we're given another 100 to the, the President attention hospital.

1158
02:10:53,560 --> 02:10:58,620
But the, the one, if you're going to do a 100 or an entertain the additional 100 for

1159
02:10:58,620 --> 02:11:02,090
attention hospital. That's that's totally separate that's its own line idea.

1160
02:11:03,760 --> 02:11:06,460
Okay, so so then it'll be 1.4

1161
02:11:06,460 --> 02:11:08,590
1.4 for the

1162
02:11:09,760 --> 02:11:11,380
for the reserve of contingency

1163
02:11:14,390 --> 02:11:18,050
and then 100,000 for the

1164
02:11:21,150 --> 02:11:22,650
the prisoner detention hospital.

1165
02:11:25,160 --> 02:11:30,720
Now that's why I asked earlier that $2 million is accurate

1166
02:11:31,410 --> 02:11:33,520
as we can make it right.

1167
02:11:35,600 --> 02:11:36,080
Okay

1168
02:11:46,440 --> 02:11:48,200
anybody else have anything

1169
02:11:51,320 --> 02:11:54,540
Yes, if the Commissioner Court approves that amount,

1170
02:11:57,410 --> 02:12:00,750
I'm concerned because whatever you

1171
02:12:00,750 --> 02:12:05,450
approve that amount and next year you have a bigger problem. I understand that, you know,

1172
02:12:05,450 --> 02:12:11,650
you're going to put this amount, but from what I see as far as the track record here, I don't

1173
02:12:11,650 --> 02:12:17,930
see no decline in anything, it's just increasing, increasing, increasing, you know, so you guys better

1174
02:12:17,930 --> 02:12:27,480
compared it for next year. So the reason why we have to do this is because we know we

1175
02:12:27,480 --> 02:12:35,700
have a problem. If we don't, if we ignore it and not put it in the budget, then we're

1176
02:12:35,700 --> 02:12:42,700
taking a risk on getting the right up and our audit. You know, this is why I say when

1177
02:12:42,700 --> 02:12:47,360
when one mistakes happen or when things like this happen,

1178
02:12:48,360 --> 02:12:51,260
it's much more than just a commission's court

1179
02:12:51,260 --> 02:12:52,800
making a yes or no.

1180
02:12:53,500 --> 02:12:56,380
There are some things that can happen with our audience.

1181
02:12:57,340 --> 02:12:59,940
There are some things that can happen with other things

1182
02:12:59,940 --> 02:13:04,980
that if we don't address them now,

1183
02:13:07,450 --> 02:13:08,610
let's go and pay, we're gonna pay later.

1184
02:13:09,110 --> 02:13:14,470
And that's why we utilize our financial advice,

1185
02:13:14,490 --> 02:13:23,990
or CPAs to give us these answers, because I don't want to not do this and it looks like we're

1186
02:13:23,990 --> 02:13:29,050
ignoring the problem. We know we have a problem, we know we have to address it one way or another.

1187
02:13:30,230 --> 02:13:35,350
And the way we're going to do that is we're going to put it in the reserve for a contingency.

1188
02:13:36,730 --> 02:13:41,970
We're going to keep our same tax rate, not putting it on the taxpayers' backs.

1189
02:13:43,270 --> 02:13:49,070
And if we go over next year, it's going to come out of the phone bound.

1190
02:13:50,210 --> 02:13:52,670
Is that what we want to do also?

1191
02:13:52,990 --> 02:13:55,430
No, we want to keep our phone bound.

1192
02:13:55,610 --> 02:13:59,730
But we have this persistent problem we have right now.

1193
02:13:59,910 --> 02:14:02,770
And we have to address it this way.

1194
02:14:03,410 --> 02:14:08,690
So we could satisfy all avenues of our systems.

1195
02:14:11,310 --> 02:14:13,150
So, I just want to say something.

1196
02:14:14,090 --> 02:14:19,090
By no means am I saying that I'm against the deal, I know we have a nation and then we need

1197
02:14:19,090 --> 02:14:20,090
to address it.

1198
02:14:20,490 --> 02:14:30,470
I just don't agree with the number that it's that we're, there's so many other things that

1199
02:14:30,470 --> 02:14:37,710
we need to address to be able to create more space here, all of us together, not just him,

1200
02:14:37,710 --> 02:14:40,850
not just this guy, not just all of us,

1201
02:14:40,970 --> 02:14:41,870
something needs to get changed,

1202
02:14:42,370 --> 02:14:44,430
but we all have to come to a number of words.

1203
02:14:45,610 --> 02:14:47,990
Not so high, I mean, you mean, I mean,

1204
02:14:48,330 --> 02:14:49,210
I've always said to my family,

1205
02:15:00,050 --> 02:15:29,830
Five and you're spending six, you don't need another job, you just need to spend less. What are we doing? We all went through that. I went through that. I came in with 32 employees. I have 17, 18 right now to try to increase their pay. And we do our own roads, or we can't sub it out. There's so many things we can do. And I'm not saying that you're not doing it. I'm not saying that I'm doing it. I just say that all of us in Jim was counting have to do our part and all the way in other. And figure out what can we do? There's a lot of areas we can cut. We have to try something different.

1206
02:15:30,050 --> 02:15:38,590
just throw money at it. I don't agree throwing money at it. It's, you know, I wish with the number

1207
02:15:38,590 --> 02:15:40,610
wouldn't increase a lot more than what

1208
02:15:42,660 --> 02:15:48,340
we did last year. But that's my opinion. Okay. Okay.

1209
02:15:49,380 --> 02:15:58,020
Should I number? I mean, that this could be a baseline number. If we think if you want a

1210
02:15:58,020 --> 02:16:04,840
a smaller number would you consider something on that number there on the one before.

1211
02:16:06,700 --> 02:16:15,340
So based on 2026 projections, when I gave my budget, I didn't want to ask for everything.

1212
02:16:16,000 --> 02:16:18,200
We were looking at a projection of 2.23.

1213
02:16:18,200 --> 02:16:25,420
I'm already expecting to try to mitigate that number,

1214
02:16:27,860 --> 02:16:33,110
the two million, I mean, the things

1215
02:16:33,110 --> 02:16:35,990
continue the way they are, that's where it's going to be.

1216
02:16:37,170 --> 02:16:41,890
I don't, I'm not going to lie to you, and that's just the truth.

1217
02:16:44,450 --> 02:16:50,030
Now the projections are just a projection based on what we were at in 26 when I created the

1218
02:16:50,490 --> 02:16:57,110
proposal. But that projection was at 2.23 million. So I cut that out because I think we can try

1219
02:16:57,570 --> 02:17:06,190
to manage that to keep it at 2 already. So I've already cut that part out. I mean,

1220
02:17:08,270 --> 02:17:14,210
that's where it looks like it's going to go. And if it's in contingency, and it doesn't go

1221
02:17:14,210 --> 02:17:19,390
there great, right? I mean, I'm going to do the best I can. I'm not going to spend the 2 million

1222
02:17:19,390 --> 02:17:30,290
I don't even, like I said, I don't tell the DPS or APD or any other agency to go rest more people.

1223
02:17:31,470 --> 02:17:34,770
That's, you know, we're just operating the way law enforcement operates.

1224
02:17:36,910 --> 02:17:39,230
And this is what we're at.

1225
02:17:40,940 --> 02:17:43,040
Like I said, the number of arrests that stayed consistent.

1226
02:17:44,560 --> 02:17:49,060
You know, it's not just Jim Wells County Sheriff's office inmates over there.

1227
02:17:49,060 --> 02:17:52,220
It's every agency that operates in this county.

1228
02:17:53,000 --> 02:17:56,500
In fact, we don't even have half of them, or do most county,

1229
02:17:56,520 --> 02:17:58,300
not even half, or do most county inmates.

1230
02:18:00,600 --> 02:18:01,420
Glad to be my guess.

1231
02:18:01,560 --> 02:18:03,180
I mean, I haven't run a number of foods.

1232
02:18:03,740 --> 02:18:05,080
I have looked at them a while back.

1233
02:18:10,640 --> 02:18:14,800
And as far as I understand, if it's in contingencies and we don't use it,

1234
02:18:15,860 --> 02:18:16,620
that's good.

1235
02:18:18,420 --> 02:18:21,660
And it doesn't affect, if it doesn't affect as between two, which was my concern.

1236
02:18:21,660 --> 02:18:38,320
And the amount we have on there, if you don't use it, it remains there, and it's not affecting our current tax rate, not affecting our current budget per se,

1237
02:18:41,970 --> 02:18:49,930
and if you don't use it, basically do it, and it don't get, it don't hit our phone balance.

1238
02:18:49,930 --> 02:18:50,410
So,

1239
02:18:52,750 --> 02:19:01,190
I just don't want to put that we're going to add a half a million dollars and what's

1240
02:19:01,190 --> 02:19:09,690
needed is 1.5 or 1.4, you know, now if that 1.4, I just didn't come up with it, I mean,

1241
02:19:10,590 --> 02:19:12,650
I think, Cindy,

1242
02:19:14,790 --> 02:19:24,470
would you agree that that 1.4, it's the mark or if it's last, let me know and I'll recommend it last.

1243
02:19:25,170 --> 02:19:30,450
I just need to make sure that it's going to hit the mark with the information that I've been providing.

1244
02:19:31,310 --> 02:19:38,530
I mean, I think you're getting the 1.4 from the sheriff's request because he has $600,000 in there.

1245
02:19:38,530 --> 02:19:50,750
I think his goal was to get 2 million because the sheriff is projecting that. I mean, if you're asking for estimates, the way the expenses are going, that's the way he's going.

1246
02:19:51,290 --> 02:19:59,970
Now we're looking for solutions to decrease that expense. If the sheriff is going to commit to that increase, hopefully we have a

1247
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:01,140
It's been $2 million.

1248
02:20:01,760 --> 02:20:02,320
We don't.

1249
02:20:03,340 --> 02:20:05,240
Well, I don't want to.

1250
02:20:05,740 --> 02:20:10,960
The fact is, if we can house more inmates over there in the world, I mean,

1251
02:20:11,040 --> 02:20:15,200
I've been thinking about ways to reduce this for a long time.

1252
02:20:16,620 --> 02:20:19,060
And I'm working to continue to do our best.

1253
02:20:19,980 --> 02:20:22,200
And it, I would hope I could.

1254
02:20:22,520 --> 02:20:24,220
I mean, I can't sit in a promise you, yes, I can.

1255
02:20:24,460 --> 02:20:25,780
Because I have laws that I have to follow.

1256
02:20:25,780 --> 02:20:32,880
But at the same time if you know, depending on the transport and everything there's so many things that are unpredictable

1257
02:20:32,880 --> 02:20:35,800
I don't know how many people are going to be arrested next month

1258
02:20:35,800 --> 02:20:37,920
Because too many people too many agencies involved

1259
02:20:38,440 --> 02:20:43,200
But all I can do is run the gels efficiently as I can and

1260
02:20:43,200 --> 02:20:44,780
And that and

1261
02:20:46,100 --> 02:20:48,080
That's pretty much all I can do and I will do that

1262
02:20:48,080 --> 02:20:49,700
I mean that this is a request.

1263
02:20:49,780 --> 02:20:50,220
We

1264
02:20:50,220 --> 02:20:57,920
We, you know, if we go back, you know, and nobody has, you know, the estimate, what's

1265
02:20:57,920 --> 02:21:04,820
the reason for estimate, I'll go back to 500,000 if you ask me, but the projections

1266
02:21:04,820 --> 02:21:12,560
that I gave you is on is basically estimated based on what we spent in 2026.

1267
02:21:12,560 --> 02:21:20,040
So, when I got to, when I got with the auditor and got the, the most updated.

1268
02:21:23,600 --> 02:21:32,520
So, in August, our year, well, year-to-date expense, true numbers for 2020-26 is 1.2.

1269
02:21:33,360 --> 02:21:40,500
And that's what I had to think, 1.2 million through August in actual prison or detention.

1270
02:21:40,500 --> 02:21:43,620
And so that's a combination of the housing and transport.

1271
02:21:44,240 --> 02:21:48,580
OK, so an relaxuality, the 1.4 is a conservative number then.

1272
02:21:48,580 --> 02:21:55,040
Yes, right, because I did back off 200, not to say the 0.23.

1273
02:21:55,500 --> 02:21:59,520
If I've rejected it, it's 2.23, and I saw one with a conservative number.

1274
02:22:00,240 --> 02:22:04,920
So at the projected expenditures through the end of this year,

1275
02:22:05,080 --> 02:22:08,920
you're looking to make it up to true it up and be 1.62 million.

1276
02:22:08,920 --> 02:22:14,980
And there's no reason to believe that that's going to go down next year unless you put some money in that line item for repairs.

1277
02:22:15,500 --> 02:22:25,100
Otherwise it's just, if you don't repair it, if you don't spend money repairing some of the cells, there's no reason to believe he's not going to have to spend that much next year as well.

1278
02:22:25,420 --> 02:22:26,720
Understand, understand completely.

1279
02:22:26,980 --> 02:22:29,960
I mean, we can redirect, I mean, and that's, you know, court.

1280
02:22:30,040 --> 02:22:35,960
I know this is just the shares request, but absolutely, if we're looking to, you know, repair the gel,

1281
02:22:35,960 --> 02:22:42,960
but many are repairing the gel, which is the goal to house back to the 70 or whatever the number is.

1282
02:22:44,340 --> 02:22:46,420
That's not in here as a request though,

1283
02:22:49,730 --> 02:22:50,630
but it's.

1284
02:22:50,890 --> 02:22:53,010
I've been making repairs to the gel.

1285
02:22:53,730 --> 02:22:58,890
If we keep that same line out of them there, we should be able to make some of those repairs.

1286
02:22:59,150 --> 02:23:08,250
We also need to, obviously, we need to estimate the assessment done, but we're still making repairs to the gel all the time.

1287
02:23:08,250 --> 02:23:13,310
I have that in the budget and I've been doing that since, you know, I came in.

1288
02:23:13,930 --> 02:23:18,890
So we're continuing to do that, it's just, it's an old, old game.

1289
02:23:19,110 --> 02:23:22,750
I need to know, it's the 1.4 conservative number.

1290
02:23:26,410 --> 02:23:28,850
If you're appropriating money, just that's a number.

1291
02:23:38,100 --> 02:23:39,060
Okay, so

1292
02:23:41,460 --> 02:23:44,120
does anybody have any else on the app

1293
02:23:49,560 --> 02:23:50,500
or recommend?

1294
02:23:56,010 --> 02:24:05,890
So, I'll make a motion that we have through the 1.4 and the reserve for contingencies, for President attention,

1295
02:24:07,990 --> 02:24:11,370
and 100,000 to the President's attention.

1296
02:24:15,450 --> 02:24:18,050
All the other ones are denied.

1297
02:24:18,990 --> 02:24:20,590
And you put it in contingency, right?

1298
02:24:20,910 --> 02:24:21,270
Senator.

1299
02:24:32,510 --> 02:24:35,770
That would have to be brought to a commissioner's court.

1300
02:24:39,890 --> 02:24:43,050
When it's in reserve for contingency, it's just sitting there.

1301
02:24:43,310 --> 02:24:46,030
So anytime it gets moved out, it has to be brought to court.

1302
02:24:46,030 --> 02:24:53,210
I mean, whoever submits the request, more than likely, county judge would have mixed the

1303
02:24:53,210 --> 02:24:59,830
request because it's in general fun, I mean, it can go out to a line item and expense line

1304
02:24:59,830 --> 02:24:59,970
Thanks for watching, and I'll see you in the next video.

1305
02:25:01,500 --> 02:25:06,100
The reserve for contingency isn't just for terrorist partners.

1306
02:25:07,360 --> 02:25:14,220
We're going to have for the lack of better work control of where that money goes if one is requested.

1307
02:25:14,620 --> 02:25:15,180
Right.

1308
02:25:15,600 --> 02:25:21,900
And it's going to be up to us to approve or disapproval on whichever way we want to, not whichever we want to use it.

1309
02:25:22,020 --> 02:25:24,820
If the intent is for his retention.

1310
02:25:30,170 --> 02:25:36,890
Judge Commissioner, let's say Turner Dominguez gets the bid, his award finally awarded the bid.

1311
02:25:37,010 --> 02:25:43,770
It makes their recommendation, hopefully by the end of this year, where is that going to get paid from?

1312
02:25:44,070 --> 02:25:44,810
This year?

1313
02:25:45,410 --> 02:25:46,630
We've got a pay from this year's budget.

1314
02:25:46,870 --> 02:25:52,230
Not them, whatever they recommend as the fix, where is that going to get paid from?

1315
02:25:52,750 --> 02:25:54,150
Well, that's what we're going to have to see.

1316
02:25:54,290 --> 02:25:58,730
We're going to have to review what they recommend.

1317
02:25:58,730 --> 02:26:05,690
how much it costs and like like we said earlier, it's not going to be a quick fix unless

1318
02:26:05,690 --> 02:26:11,270
it's it's it's minor repairs that we have from courthouse and buildings that we can we can utilize.

1319
02:26:12,750 --> 02:26:18,910
So we don't have a line item for whatever right now there's no line item so if if we do

1320
02:26:18,910 --> 02:26:28,010
if we do want to add money for that we can we can add it to this and understand that it's

1321
02:26:28,010 --> 02:26:34,870
The intent is for President 1.4 for President attention and we add something for that.

1322
02:26:35,390 --> 02:26:37,310
It is the intent is for that.

1323
02:26:38,130 --> 02:26:39,790
But we don't know.

1324
02:26:40,230 --> 02:26:42,470
We don't know how much.

1325
02:26:43,230 --> 02:26:44,250
That's the whole issue.

1326
02:26:44,490 --> 02:26:46,150
We don't know the amount of money.

1327
02:26:57,840 --> 02:26:57,980
Sure.

1328
02:26:58,120 --> 02:27:03,200
If you have a line item amount for the repair and maintenance of jail for $130,000.

1329
02:27:03,200 --> 02:27:13,010
So you used other than money only 44,252 to do repairs roughly?

1330
02:27:14,130 --> 02:27:18,430
I don't know that I know that we have done a lot of repairs.

1331
02:27:18,670 --> 02:27:26,970
I've replaced a few units and everything else that's what I was saying is that we do use the money

1332
02:27:26,970 --> 02:27:28,530
to further repairs.

1333
02:27:28,530 --> 02:27:35,470
the issue would be that of the old side of the jail whether I mean because there's

1334
02:27:35,470 --> 02:27:43,190
plumbing and other more expensive costs there but yes we use that money to prepare the

1335
02:27:43,190 --> 02:27:49,770
jail. I don't I believe we probably spent more than a last year we spent more than that.

1336
02:27:50,390 --> 02:27:54,750
I don't know if that's exact number that we have right now.

1337
02:28:00,000 --> 02:28:03,000
But I thought that repairs were under your ear.

1338
02:28:04,120 --> 02:28:04,820
We have hold.

1339
02:28:05,180 --> 02:28:07,080
You guys, you got his line, I don't know for repairs.

1340
02:28:07,260 --> 02:28:09,780
And I got six hundred thousand and four

1341
02:28:17,200 --> 02:28:17,460
hell.

1342
02:28:17,540 --> 02:28:20,520
For that matter, for the fact that that matter is

1343
02:28:23,260 --> 02:28:27,640
some of the repairs that we're doing this year and some of the ACs

1344
02:28:27,640 --> 02:28:29,520
and stuff like that that we've done this year.

1345
02:28:30,020 --> 02:28:31,380
We're not going to have those expenses.

1346
02:28:31,580 --> 02:28:33,340
They're expenses next year.

1347
02:28:34,480 --> 02:28:35,820
So, I mean, I'm very tight.

1348
02:28:35,820 --> 02:28:44,740
I'm very concerned with that budget line item, so we will have someone, or that.

1349
02:28:45,380 --> 02:28:53,400
I just don't know what the final number is, like I said, there's 600,000 in it.

1350
02:29:03,060 --> 02:29:14,140
Okay, so I have the most on the table, or the 1.4 and 100, I'll be for the second, I'll

1351
02:29:14,140 --> 02:29:15,340
change that.

1352
02:29:15,820 --> 02:29:18,960
I have a motion in the second. Is there any further discussion?

1353
02:29:22,690 --> 02:29:29,310
I'll have a favor to say aye. Aye. Aye. I'll have a poll safe sign. Aye. Motion carries.

1354
02:29:34,670 --> 02:29:35,650
Thank you. Thank you.

1355
02:29:50,790 --> 02:29:52,450
You would now probation department.

1356
02:29:56,810 --> 02:29:59,390
Okay, we'll go with the adult probation department.

1357
02:30:02,160 --> 02:30:03,700
What are you guys doing, Commissioner?

1358
02:30:04,380 --> 02:30:04,920
Audit sir.

1359
02:30:05,760 --> 02:30:10,720
Basically, I guess the request we made was to benefit a program that actually addresses the issues that

1360
02:30:10,720 --> 02:30:13,100
have been discussed today, the gel over crowding.

1361
02:30:13,400 --> 02:30:13,820
Rubin Valedio.

1362
02:30:14,080 --> 02:30:14,580
Rubin Valedio.

1363
02:30:18,900 --> 02:30:19,660
Rubin Valedio.

1364
02:30:19,660 --> 02:30:19,900
Rubin Valedio.

1365
02:30:19,900 --> 02:30:21,020
Rubin Valedio.

1366
02:30:21,300 --> 02:30:23,080
Rubin Valedio.

1367
02:30:27,460 --> 02:30:28,500
Rubin Valedio.

1368
02:30:28,520 --> 02:30:29,520
Rubin Valedio.

1369
02:30:31,000 --> 02:30:31,840
Rubin Valedio.

1370
02:30:31,840 --> 02:30:32,000
Rubin Valedio.

1371
02:30:32,000 --> 02:30:32,240
Rubin Valedio.

1372
02:30:32,240 --> 02:30:33,560
Rubin Valedio.

1373
02:30:33,560 --> 02:30:40,500
COVID limitations were taken away, and resources that we provide for our clients when the magistrates

1374
02:30:40,500 --> 02:30:46,120
or the judges request county pay or CSD pay for monitors that have increased in prices well.

1375
02:30:47,240 --> 02:30:55,320
That's the justification right now. Like I said, the number that was provided was based on numbers

1376
02:30:55,320 --> 02:31:02,720
when this program began. Now they've tripled or caught group. We have 1596 to be precise and

1377
02:31:02,720 --> 02:31:03,420
1,400.

1378
02:31:06,360 --> 02:31:09,880
Thank you for the discussion.

1379
02:31:11,420 --> 02:31:12,220
There we say aye.

1380
02:31:12,900 --> 02:31:14,260
Opposing sign.

1381
02:31:15,400 --> 02:31:16,000
Opposing carries.

1382
02:31:17,140 --> 02:31:18,380
You know probation department.

1383
02:31:29,900 --> 02:31:31,280
I have nothing.

1384
02:31:31,540 --> 02:31:33,580
You just basically what I had.

1385
02:31:33,900 --> 02:31:34,800
As far Wednesday.

1386
02:31:36,360 --> 02:31:37,460
As far as the increase.

1387
02:31:40,270 --> 02:31:40,470
Nothing.

1388
02:31:40,890 --> 02:31:41,850
Nothing else.

1389
02:31:42,230 --> 02:31:42,790
Make a motion.

1390
02:31:42,990 --> 02:31:43,830
We approve.

1391
02:31:46,870 --> 02:31:49,830
I'll post the same sign, motion carries.

1392
02:31:50,550 --> 02:31:51,950
Thank you.

1393
02:31:52,030 --> 02:31:54,450
County agent, yes, for $500.

1394
02:31:56,810 --> 02:31:58,170
For the.

1395
02:31:58,210 --> 02:32:00,030
Uh, remember, what was it?

1396
02:32:01,030 --> 02:32:01,710
Expense.

1397
02:32:01,950 --> 02:32:03,390
What was it, what was it, exactly?

1398
02:32:03,710 --> 02:32:06,310
Agent, uh, have.

1399
02:32:06,410 --> 02:32:06,670
Vehicle.

1400
02:32:07,830 --> 02:32:09,850
You know, just $500.

1401
02:32:09,850 --> 02:32:16,410
I would recommend second, second, motion, and second, I would say aye.

1402
02:32:16,410 --> 02:32:16,790
Aye.

1403
02:32:17,250 --> 02:32:18,410
On a full height and sign.

1404
02:32:19,370 --> 02:32:20,090
Also carries.

1405
02:32:23,010 --> 02:32:24,310
Missioners, I think.

1406
02:32:24,630 --> 02:32:25,530
Delper based on the answer?

1407
02:32:25,850 --> 02:32:27,010
Yes, we have a doubt.

1408
02:32:30,150 --> 02:32:31,850
That was only one.

1409
02:32:33,510 --> 02:32:34,550
The freezing course.

1410
02:32:34,770 --> 02:32:35,130
Yes, sir.

1411
02:32:35,250 --> 02:32:37,910
And all the changes are within my budget to just transfer.

1412
02:32:37,910 --> 02:32:39,950
and for I don't think we need to approve that.

1413
02:32:42,290 --> 02:32:44,650
It seems concept is Michael, would you like some pictures?

1414
02:32:44,690 --> 02:32:45,990
I make a motion with approval.

1415
02:32:46,270 --> 02:32:46,610
Second.

1416
02:32:47,170 --> 02:32:48,910
I will motion a second, any further discussion?

1417
02:32:49,850 --> 02:32:50,770
All the people say aye.

1418
02:32:51,430 --> 02:32:52,570
All the full same sign.

1419
02:32:53,190 --> 02:32:54,850
All the areas are

1420
02:32:57,320 --> 02:32:57,760
done.

1421
02:32:59,220 --> 02:33:00,020
I'd like to say something.

1422
02:33:06,960 --> 02:33:10,820
I think it's just trying to get together in a form of committee

1423
02:33:10,820 --> 02:33:12,480
to complete them getting salaries.

1424
02:33:12,760 --> 02:33:14,600
For all positions, they're elected officials.

1425
02:33:15,420 --> 02:33:18,020
All I'm going to get an example here on

1426
02:33:18,020 --> 02:33:25,080
to say you have a constable and just about every four years they get a new electric

1427
02:33:25,080 --> 02:33:30,340
official electric official. And say it's at 43,000. Then you have a hospital that's been there

1428
02:33:30,340 --> 02:33:37,560
for 30 years. He's got his raises in his races in the 68. Well just because you're running

1429
02:33:37,560 --> 02:33:44,100
for that position, you're going to get 68 because it doesn't make sense. You're doing the same thing

1430
02:33:44,100 --> 02:33:49,800
that is possible, stay at precinct one, precinct six,

1431
02:33:50,520 --> 02:33:52,200
because this one's been there for 30 years,

1432
02:33:53,200 --> 02:33:55,540
getting all the bumps and bumps.

1433
02:33:58,000 --> 02:33:58,740
That doesn't make sense.

1434
02:34:01,760 --> 02:34:03,580
And I don't understand, you know,

1435
02:34:03,580 --> 02:34:05,660
when you say this, you're running for that position.

1436
02:34:06,400 --> 02:34:07,680
You're running for a position,

1437
02:34:08,440 --> 02:34:10,780
to me, is running better.

1438
02:34:11,880 --> 02:34:13,200
You know, it's the change thing,

1439
02:34:19,310 --> 02:34:35,710
I don't understand why four years ago, it was automatically down, and then this one's not because well we're running for that, they're running for that position, they're running for that amount.

1440
02:34:35,710 --> 02:34:42,090
And then this just makes sense, you know, I think, you know, maybe I need to put on a

1441
02:34:42,090 --> 02:34:46,830
pressure for something, something easy to be done about salary. And that means even

1442
02:34:46,830 --> 02:34:56,330
commissioners, you know, just everybody else, but that's everybody. You know, there

1443
02:34:56,330 --> 02:34:59,970
It's been there for twenty-five thirty years, got all their bumps in.

1444
02:35:00,430 --> 02:35:08,170
And then somebody runs for this one that every four years has been changing and changing, so it's the difference, say 43 and 68.

1445
02:35:09,390 --> 02:35:12,130
It's a big difference. Same job.

1446
02:35:13,230 --> 02:35:19,790
Lot of money. And that's tax care money. I can tell that I need to get that on the board.

1447
02:35:19,870 --> 02:35:20,070
Sure.

1448
02:35:26,720 --> 02:35:27,240
Okay,

1449
02:35:32,410 --> 02:35:45,620
so I know we originally said that we would come on the 18th and we moved it to the 21st, but we did have a have a meeting or a

1450
02:35:45,620 --> 02:35:53,660
Cindy did with Carlos Rodriguez, our supervisor, and he had a post our

1451
02:35:55,900 --> 02:36:04,290
rate newspaper and it has to post for 10 days.

1452
02:36:05,400 --> 02:36:17,640
So what we got to do is we're going to have to wait until the 28 to a crew.

1453
02:36:17,640 --> 02:36:28,600
Monday the 28th. So in our schedule, we have Tuesday the 29th and Wednesday the 30th

1454
02:36:28,600 --> 02:36:36,780
as if needed dates. So I guess the 20th is that Monday,

1455
02:36:40,820 --> 02:36:42,840
right? September 28th is that Monday.

1456
02:36:43,900 --> 02:36:47,600
We all have to be present, so I want to make sure that everything is good.

1457
02:37:09,170 --> 02:37:12,330
So I give the text from,

1458
02:37:17,900 --> 02:37:19,260
did you get it wrong?

1459
02:37:23,890 --> 02:37:25,390
Founders are going

1460
02:37:29,260 --> 02:37:33,360
to have to make any changes or just for you.

1461
02:37:51,060 --> 02:37:53,180
This thing fell off. Okay. Can you hear me? Okay.

1462
02:37:53,420 --> 02:37:56,480
So it looks like, and this is going to address, I think,

1463
02:37:56,480 --> 02:38:02,880
which was concerned is that y'all can, and this is from our independent auditor

1464
02:38:02,880 --> 02:38:04,860
that was texting judge.

1465
02:38:06,760 --> 02:38:26,840
In regards to the reserve for contingency, there it is, that's a difference, but that you can, I guess, put the specifications as far as only for emergencies or unexpected costs for the sheriff's department.

1466
02:38:26,840 --> 02:38:28,900
basically are in the perspective of.

1467
02:38:28,960 --> 02:38:34,840
So, if that's the wording that I don't know if you have to go back to it.

1468
02:38:35,040 --> 02:38:36,060
Well, that's what he's saying.

1469
02:38:36,180 --> 02:38:38,340
We're not naming it reserved for contingencies.

1470
02:38:38,840 --> 02:38:42,800
No, but you can put like the disclosure on how to be.

1471
02:38:43,220 --> 02:38:44,700
Not just.

1472
02:38:45,040 --> 02:38:45,520
Yeah.

1473
02:38:45,860 --> 02:38:46,580
All right.

1474
02:38:46,580 --> 02:38:48,340
Okay, so we're good there.

1475
02:38:49,200 --> 02:38:49,680
The.

1476
02:38:49,920 --> 02:38:53,480
So we'll be adopting the 2027.

1477
02:38:53,480 --> 02:39:06,500
2020, Jim Wells County budget will be ratified in the property tax for 2027 and set the tax rate for 2026 on Monday, September 28.

1478
02:39:10,290 --> 02:39:10,610
Correct.

1479
02:39:11,510 --> 02:39:12,870
Yes, 9 in.

1480
02:39:15,790 --> 02:39:28,570
At that time, Cindy will have all the changes that we made today and we'll have the total.

1481
02:39:28,570 --> 02:39:31,350
Well, we all have to be present, sir.

1482
02:39:32,330 --> 02:39:34,270
All present, and we have a record vote.

1483
02:39:36,010 --> 02:39:39,150
So, we'll have all the final numbers.

1484
02:39:40,950 --> 02:39:48,890
And I'll give a review before we complete everything we need to complete.

1485
02:39:53,130 --> 02:39:58,510
Other than that, I think the budget hearings have served their purpose.

1486
02:39:59,290 --> 02:39:59,970
We trust it.

1487
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:10,000
Keep the same tax rate. And whatever was approved has been approved, it's needed. It's not something that

1488
02:40:11,200 --> 02:40:18,460
wish this or anything like that. So that being said, I commend everybody. Thank you all very much.

1489
02:40:18,740 --> 02:40:21,260
Anybody else want to just court this time?

1490
02:40:24,640 --> 02:40:26,260
Hearing none, can I entertain a motion?

1491
02:40:27,160 --> 02:40:36,020
Second, I will most in the second, in the further discussion, all together see I, I will oppose some sign, ocean carries.