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So with that right into the record, I'd like to call this meeting to order.

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Before we start on today's business, I'll do a quick roll call of supervisors to make sure we have a quorum.

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Supervisor Green Douglas, you there?

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Yes, I'm here.

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Supervisor Porter?

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And supervisor Retic?

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Yes, I'm here.

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Before we get into the first item in our agenda,

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I'd like to take just a moment of personal liberty.

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Johnson County suffered a terrible loss the other day with the passing of our assistant

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Rhodesman at Superintendent Mike Hennis.

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Mike was a county employee for well over 30 years.

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He was a person without a position of great responsibility.

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I can just say personally, I liked Mike a lot.

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He was a really, really nice guy, a fun guy to be around, a smart guy.

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I can't even imagine how much the department is going to miss him, how much his family's

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going to miss him and how much his community is going to miss him.

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So I'd like to start this meeting if everybody would indulge me with just a moment of silence

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and honor of my kindness.

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Thank you. Okay. First time on our agenda is public comment for any

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items not on the agenda. So if you have something you'd like to mention to the board and it

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is not on the agenda, now would be the time, is there anybody with anything to bring to the board

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that is not on today's agenda?

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Okay. Hearing nothing, we'll move on to our work session, business,

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the first item there, is discuss recommendation from the ad hoc epony committee or a new epony

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for Johnson County. Lisa, you want to take the reins here?

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I sure would. So first of all, I'd just would like to welcome those from the committee

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who are on the phone or listening in. And we have a committee of approximately 11 people

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with probably eight or so in attendance at each meeting, we had two recommendations, as you

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see in your packet, we have the bios of both of the people who were discussed, and we had decided

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ahead of time that we would go by at 4 L of E of votes.

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And, first of all, I love surprises

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and I love to have this being revealed

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for the first time right now.

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Before we hear from the committee

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and a few people to make the recommendation,

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I would like to say that some of the people

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who are in on this call and who will be speaking this morning

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are descendants of our recommendation.

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And so I'm going to turn this over right now to Leslie Shalom, who came forward with a lot of research on a person and let her go with that, Leslie.

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Thank you, Lisa.

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I want to acknowledge first that the research that I've circulated to you and advanced

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came from both Sonia Jackson, the great niece of Lulu Marl-Johnson and myself.

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together what we uncovered was an extraordinary person's life. Dr. Lulu Murl Johnson's experience,

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her activism and her professional achievements. We feel really represent the best of Iowa

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and the best of Johnson County, her farm to faculty experience really exemplifies our

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county's unique contribution to the state and opportunity for a world-class education as

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well as professional and occupational mobility. And very importantly, because Lulumurl, Johnson,

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was African American, her experience is noteworthy for illuminating the significant challenges

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that black islands and black Iowa women, in particular, have faced in overcoming institutional

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racism, sexism, and discrimination.

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I don't want to repeat everything that you've had a chance to read in advance, I'll simply

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note that Johnson was born into a very successful farming family in a small south western Iowa

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town in Taylor County, the only black family in their town for the first decades of the

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20th century. Her parents and her grandparents came out of slavery, a path that many

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19th century and early 20th century black islands were sadly familiar with, I'll point

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out that the family at that time and then into the 20th century had very close ties with

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some of the leading lights of Johnson County, well acknowledged already in the naming of schools,

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etcetera.

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And I will point out that when Johnson attended the University of Iowa, it was both

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a haven for leading black intellectuals and activists, but also a place where racial discrimination

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was rampant. And Dr. Johnson was among those who very courageously challenged discrimination.

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including making sure that segregation was made clear,

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and costly to those who wished to enforce it,

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as well as to the Black students who were expected to bear that burden.

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and her PhD, she was among a very elite group

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Black women in the country, she was one of 10 Black women who had earned a Ph.E. at a U.S.

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university,

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and she then followed a really substantial professional career teaching at a

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number of historically black colleges and universities, ending her career at

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but also the deep of women.

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She retired in 1971 to her home in Delaware that she shared with her long-time

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partner, you know, Johnson, and became a world traveler,

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and she really left behind a fairly important legacy

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And that was really a nice highlight, Leslie, and I believe we have her niece on the phone

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correct.

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We have actually a number of Johnson's descendants joining us today, and if it's all right,

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I'll name them all.

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We have her nephew, Don Jackson.

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We have her niece in law and Jackson.

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We have three great nieces, Cheryl Jackson, Kim Jackson,

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and Sonja Jackson.

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And Sonja, you were going to speak, were you not?

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Yeah, but I would just like to say, you know, thank you so much for this honor of our beloved

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grandma.

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We have hoped to have recognition for her ever for her accomplishments in Iowa, and I think

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that this is such a fitting recognition for her.

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People Newot Lula, as the tremendous intellectual and academic and activists, we knew

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her as our very personicity and special relative.

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We taught us so much and who instilled her deep values in all of us.

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So we're honored and grateful on her behalf and very excited about the eponym committee.

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Thank you.

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Aranya, anyone else from Dr. Johnson's family was this big?

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Yes, this is on her nephew.

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She was a discipline

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for a tube

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just about in.

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Thank you, anyone else?

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Okay, we're hearing then.

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I would be happy to be an eponym committee.

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I'd like to recommend to the Johnson County Board of Supervisors

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that our new eponym is Dr. Lulu Murrell Johnson.

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Thank you, Lisa.

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So first of all, in terms of process here,

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I just want to thank our committee.

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First of all, for the work,

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we are really happy that so many people took an interest

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and that so many people with such outstanding scholarly backgrounds

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participated to help us in terms of getting to this point.

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I definitely want to thank Dr. Johnson's family for your participation and it's,

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I think I can speak for everybody that does our hearts proud to hear the pride that you all have.

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I think probably the best way for us to proceed is to just first of all get a quick

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drop hole from the board to make sure that we want to move forward in this way and then

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if assuming we get yeses then I'd like to have our assistant county attorney Ryan Moss

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talk a little bit about what we'd have to do process wise to to effectuate this change

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if anything so board members is everybody comfortable with this with this the epanimous

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advised by the committee I certainly am as well I think I heard everybody there so

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I just couldn't get in this agenda. I wanted to thank David McCartney or was the first

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person that at least reached out to me this is just William Merle Johnson's aim and to give

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some history on her background and so I don't know that he's on the call today I didn't

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hear anything, but I just want to thank him coming to this advice.

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It sounds like we are unanimous and that's great.

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I also think it's worth thanking everybody who...

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You offered thoughts.

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I'm very intrigued also by Sylvanis. I've got to admit he was a gentleman I knew nothing about and I'm really pleased that I do now.

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And I hope that moving forward maybe we can even do something to sort of just recognize his contributions to this community as well. Ryan, would you mind talking about what we need to do to make this change?

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Sure, good morning.

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It's just a county attorney Ryan Moss.

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I actually have not been tasked with that research project.

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I know that Janet has been looking into it and that a number of our summer interns

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were working on developing that research and what I would be happy to do

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since we're at this stage is connected with Janet and we're

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and package that the products of that research and circulate it with the blood for along with some recommendations on process.

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Okay. You have it too.

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Okay, super.

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Yeah, right if I may.

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Yeah.

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You have our committee members.

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We're the locker clerk that Ryan mentioned.

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I'm Tiffany Rivera and David Rappenekker.

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I don't know if they're on the call or not, but if either of you are, please go ahead.

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and feel free to speak up.

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Okay, maybe they're not on the call today,

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but I had done some research into this prior to the committee

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being formed if you change the actual namesake.

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There's a complete and arduous process.

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I could find nothing throughout the geographic names

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or anything, the board of geographic names on changing

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in an acronym. So that's the legal lay person.

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Do you think that's right there?

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And actually, Lisa, this is Ryan.

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That matches with some of the initial, the initial impressions that Susie and I

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reached in the beginning when the topic was first brought on.

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But then, like I said, those law clerks that you mentioned,

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Did dig into it more and I'm just ignorant of the products of that research be happy to find that and circulate it

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I guess what excuse me what I was thinking is

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Ideally once we get the legal stuff

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Button down and know what we need to do

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I think it would be great to do two things one would be to figure out some kind of signage or

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Monument type thing that we could do

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probably at the county buildings and the other would be to have some kind of ceremony and hopefully

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the the many Johnson descendants that are on the phone call with us today some of you could

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come when we schedule such a thing obviously got some some things to overcome with COVID and what not but

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I think that would be great other board members and he thoughts.

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Yes, right. This is Roy Fan, and I think it would be an honor to have a celebration in her name.

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Where the community could celebrate as well, so I totally agreed.

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So maybe moving forward, we can, if the committee is still willing to stay together a little longer,

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we can task you with the idea of planning a celebration and we'll just have to wait and figure

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out exactly when we can do that based on attorneys' recommendations and of course a few

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other things like what the family availability is and that sort of thing. Does that sound

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good, everybody? Yeah, Rod, this is Lisa. What kind of timeline are you thinking if it is?

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I guess I don't have a preconceived notion.

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I know that if we did some kind of nice sign or plaque or something,

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it would probably take a couple months to get created,

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I'm sure, because we'd have to first of all get it written

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and run it by some of our experts for accuracy,

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and we'd want to make sure the family liked it,

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and then we'd have to get it created.

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So I mean, it's going to be a little while, I guess.

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well, we can, we can stay in touch with the committee and kind of, we can come up with something,

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but I think part of the decision there would be where this is going to be displayed

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because that would be tremendous size.

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You have any ideas or thoughts on that?

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I don't necessarily have to top in my head, but I guess that's something we could, we could

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certainly start talking about trying to get feedback, whether it's inside or outside if there's

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one thing or three things or exactly how this works, I don't have any preconceived ideas

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So the committee could probably then also recommend a place where there's plaque.

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Got it.

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where it would be, how it would look, that kind of stuff. Obviously, we want to keep in contact

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with the family so that they're satisfied with anything that we would want to do.

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Is that sound okay to the committee folks? You're willing to do just a little more work?

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If we're going to do something outside,

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it would be nice if we could do something like

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they do historic occasions or even that natural locations, those all weather boards that

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We'll give you a photograph or two and some actual written history.

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You know, that they cost a little bit of money, but they're just much more at successful

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people to get the history.

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I mean, obviously, inside you can have room for, if we're going to go outside, I'd really

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like it that people could approach the history.

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And there are a lot of ways to do that, but I'm willing to money to do it right.

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Yeah. I agree. I, you know, I think, you know, we've got conservation as use some of those signs.

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It's some of their properties and they're, they're, yeah, they're durable and informative and work really well.

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We have experience in creating those things for the historic forefarm Donna Brooks's

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Intimately Familiaroth. What the process is and how to construct this to you. So, we can get some guidance on to do that, do it right.

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And as far as a celebration, you know, we're getting close to winners, so it's going to be

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hard to do.

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Well, sign is up, go ahead and do the naming,

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and we'll be further along in COVID and maybe

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back to good weather.

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We're going to try and make sure that the size of various teams are going to be the best

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I can't tell who's speaking there. Somebody's got a mute their phone, I think. Thank you. There we go.

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Anyway, I like the idea that committee kind of, I mean, up with ideas and whatnot, but

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we ought to tell him that.

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that's all I wanted to say.

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I was thinking, perhaps when you were talking to Janet,

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it occurred to me that having the QR code also

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would be a way to then be able to give even more information

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not all in one place.

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Yeah, and they also do these phone call-in things,

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where you dial a number, and it will read you to history,

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because all across the country.

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So, yeah, that'd be good to for ADA compliance.

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Yeah, I'm cool to, if you need to know a budget number

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just Alice, but I think that we should do it right.

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That's all I want to say.

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Yeah, well, well, timing is good because we're going

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into a budget season and we know this might take a little while.

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So I hope we'll just committee members,

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you can continue to talk about how this would look and how we

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It's celebrated and maybe we celebrated a couple times and just I think the important things

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keeping in touch with her family so that we can so that we can move forward.

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Well, good.

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I will be in touch with the committee then, where I sign then I will touch base and figure

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things out.

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Thank you, committee, for your work.

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Yeah, thank you, committee, very much.

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We appreciate all your efforts and to the family of Dr. Johnson.

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Congratulations, and thank you for giving us access to this wonderful lady.

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Absolutely, thank you, Alan.

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I forgot to mention that two of us in the family are the University of Iowa alumni as well,

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so thank you to everybody we appreciate your recognition of Aunt Lula.

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Thank you.

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That's a pleasure.

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Okay, anything else on this board members?

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We'll move on.

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Item number two on our agenda.

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I am pretty sure Jasper Sard has asked us to skip over today.

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So we're not going to have anything with item number two.

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There is something in your packet you can read, but we don't have any action.

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Item number three on our agenda is to discuss change order number two.

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So why are we not discussing this?

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Basically, Josh, Josh isn't ready, I guess, is probably the easiest way to say it.

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That was not my understanding.

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Hey, Rob, this is Josh from Sergeant PDS director.

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Okay, there he is.

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So, if you wanted to talk about it, I am ready, but I just think we're pulled a

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split.

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September

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and then we would come back to this

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meeting.

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I said it before and past meetings and last December we listened to and considered a very large number of proposed amendments.

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We revisited that again in July.

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listen to and consider both times we actually did adopt some of the amendments that they put

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forth and others we did not and frankly I don't want to keep on revisiting the same thing

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over and over again until they get what they want. I think we need to say once we you know consider

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that and discuss it and then made a decision that we're done.

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So that's where it came to last.

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And I agree with Lisa.

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I think this has been asked, settled and decided.

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Well, one of the things we are having trouble with is that's not the opinion of our planning

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and zoning commission.

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And you know where I stand on that.

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And that's part of the difficulty Josh is dealing with.

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Well, they can make you the recommendation they want, but that doesn't mean we have to take it up.

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Well, I think I guess Ryan, do you want to play in on that?

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We have that question, honestly.

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I mean, we already took this up. We already voted. I agree with Lisa.

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Assistant County Attorney Ryan Moss, I will just address the, and I think it is also briefly

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touched upon in the letter or the memo that Josh prepared to your attention that was

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circulated in response to the, the, the Farm Bureau communication, and that is the manner

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in which possible text amendments come to this body. And they can come really one of four ways.

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This body can initiate a text amendment or a map amendment. I'll confine it to text amendments.

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So this body can initiate a text amendment, which then essentially would be probably in the form of

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something that you are consulting with professional staff to develop and then...

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Refer to the Planning and Zoning Commission to be properly noticed, you know, published notice and then heard for a recommendation of either denial approval or conditional approval, which then comes back to you all.

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Zoning text amendments can also be originated by the zoning administrator, whomever that is currently that's Josh.

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uh... zoning text amendments can be

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uh... initiated by uh... members of the public which we've seen

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at least to my knowledge to since uh... january one by the farm bureau and one by

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a construction entity that uh... had a development application twitch that zoning

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text amendment related

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and then the fourth way is through

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action by the planning and zoning commission whereby they

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essentially draft their own zoning text amendment, which then would essentially come to them

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after being properly publicly noticed and hearing and then they would make again make

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that recommendation.

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So all of those text amendments go through the Planning and Zoning Commission for a denial

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approval or conditional approval and you all are familiar with what those tend to look like,

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whether we're talking about the omnibus UTO from back in December or we are talking about

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single one-off map amendments or text amendments.

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So that's I think when you're talking about action by the planning and zoning commission

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they would have to draft their own proposed amendment which they are entitled to do and this

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body provided there's agreement among the majority could also direct staff to draft a particular

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zoning text amendment, which we've seen, I mean, that was the genesis of the UDO rewrite

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enough date to begin with, so I'm speaking generally rather than on a specific case.

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I guess that was sort of me trying to make the point that Josh needs direction because this

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is happening to him, he can't control it, and he's sort of asking for as our assistance.

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And that's where we're at.

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I still think there's really easy fix to this, but we don't have three votes to do it,

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and that's to get a new planning and zoning commission.

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When did we vote on that? I'd like to vote for that.

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I guess I would say there's nothing new in what our bureau sent and I have no desire to

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have staff but in any more time on it.

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If planning and zoning wants to draft something then they should do that but I do not believe

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our staff has to continue to spend time.

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And hopefully, we already decided, multiple times, in the actual UDO, in the amendments that

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were punged, and so I have no desire to have fastened any more time on this.

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Period.

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Well, if there are three people that are interested, I'd be more than happy to put

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planning and zoning commission on the agenda next week.

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I'm for it.

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I'm sorry, Ray San, I couldn't hear that.

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I said I would forward it for you.

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You're for it. Okay.

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So I'm not to sure what we're for, what we're not for.

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Discussing whether or not we want to continue with our existing planning and zoning commission

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or going the route of seeding a new one.

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Okay, very good.

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And aren't we currently already advertising for two to placement?

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Probably.

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Yeah, Mike says yes.

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Yes.

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And when is the deadline on that, does anyone know?

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I think we've already had a deadline.

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We just don't get applicants.

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We haven't had applicants the deadline passed.

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And now we're down to only unincorporated folks who can even apply.

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I mean, the legislature set it up to where we won't have qualms.

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Then what do we do?

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Well, I'd rather not have a qualm than have people doing damage.

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And I think we're at the point of people doing damage.

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I would be not a qualm.

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They can't meet.

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That means no.

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Nothing could ever happen, Ryan.

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I mean, we're going to have to know that because we don't have any applicants for the two openings we have.

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Who, you know, I couldn't answer that question for you.

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So if we did not have a planning and zoning commission,

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the only thing that would come to the board are a site plan

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and final-plat application, that application

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or

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wanted to take us to the future land use plan.

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And I've got a feeling that if we went a month without a planning and zoning commission,

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MMS and Heart Frederick and a lot of builders would be really quick to get people to apply

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to fill those seats and we'd have a few applicants so we could look at.

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Oh, they need to be getting some applicants already.

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I mean, we've just been struggling for years.

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So now we're even more limited on who can apply.

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So I heard me and Roy Sand definitely say we wanted this on next week.

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Yes.

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Okay, Pat, yes and Lisa, you're a yes?

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I'm a yes, yeah.

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Okay, that's at least four.

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So we'll put that on the agenda for next week.

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Josh, do you want to add more on what's actually on there for today?

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So, yes, so in the memo that I said, I just wanted to respond to some key assertions

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that the John's Accounting Farm Bureau was making in their letter that they sent

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to the Board of Supervisors that state at September.

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And those assertions, they primarily deal with the September 14 planning and zoning commission meeting.

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And those are in the memo. I can answer questions if you would like.

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And in the second part of the

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month of Maria just

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to take up, I attempted to highlight those

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checked as briefly as I wanted to get some kind of indication from the

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board in form

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at the October Plan for the Sony Commission meeting.

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When the PMZ Commission directed me to place on the agenda and item to discuss HF

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about in the memo.

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Josh is, you know, as I said earlier, I mean, I didn't say this part, but we're in compliance with the House file, and everything that they are asking for, we've already discussed or decided not to do, and so that I think should be our response.

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No, sometimes you just have to say no, and that's our response to Farm Bureau, there's no matter how much you want to play politics and part of some politics.

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Oh, this is Pat. Yesterday it was my recommendation that we tried to set up a meeting with Mark Ogden and Jerry Anderson.

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I think it's important to, and there are some real issues here.

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But I do think it's important to be available to have those discussions where everybody's at the table.

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It doesn't mean that that, you know, what the outcome is.

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But it means that we're willing to have the conversation, conversations no matter how many times that we need to do that.

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And for me as a supervisor, I take that really seriously and I am going to be available any time as long as it's reasonable to have those conversations.

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questions, comments, anything for Josh?

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Did you want to add something to

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Ryan?

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Okay. Okay.

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Obviously if board members if you want to talk to Josh

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after this on your own feel free otherwise we'll go ahead and move on. Thank you Josh.

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So Rod, I just want to make sure so it sounds like that at least three

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And then I can expect this to be on an agenda.

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That's what I'd like to do.

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I guess I'm not clear if there are, and I heard Pat say that.

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Is there another supervisor wants to do that?

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Do you just want to, well, is there another supervisor wants to do that?

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I guess is the question.

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And is that to look at the commission itself?

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I mean, no, no, that's separate.

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this is this is having Josh wait and respond until after the meeting on September 30th.

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Yeah, I don't know. I I'm so confused at this point. I I feel like we've had those meetings.

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I feel like we have them at the table multiple times.

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So I think Josh needs to

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you hear from everybody so he's got clear direction.

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Who are I said what I wanted to say?

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Okay.

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That's independent.

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Well, I'm going to be done with this and I mean, you guys have spent enough time on it.

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You have other people too.

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Josh, what do you want to, what do you want?

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So, I've made my recommendations in the memo.

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I don't think that the changes can

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be taken up and we do that

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RP or

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the definition

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applied

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to

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defy a beer or what even.

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This is the only

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thing

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I'm advocating is that we have this meeting on September 30th, so we can come together, you know, have a conversation, so everybody understands each other and that this would be on the agenda.

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October 7th. Again, that's all I'm advocating is that we continue forward, reach out to

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Farm Bureau. So again, we can have the discussion and talk through just like Josh did,

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those issues that we have.

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And Rod, my understanding is that you would support that.

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Yes, I am fine with having that meeting.

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So I think what Josh needs to know is, is that

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One other person wants to have that meeting so he can schedule the meeting if not, he will not schedule the meeting.

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You just need, okay, I'll be that other person for you to go ahead and have this meeting.

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We really need to have this meeting because they can't continue to come back every time to keep making the amendments.

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We have work with them. I'm just trying to get an understanding, and I know you're saying that you want to go and talk with them.

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I have no problem with that.

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But if you think that they're not going to just keep coming back here, I mean, this is just going to keep happening.

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And Josh and Nate are just going to have to keep spending more and more time chasing ghosts.

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But we do have control over that.

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We have control over it. He's done a memo. That's good enough. It's on the agenda right now.

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Our bureau knew it was on the agenda that they could be here talking.

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I mean, how many times do we have to talk about the same thing, over and over and over again?

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This because we didn't get their way on the unified development ordinance.

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I'm advocating for one more meeting.

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And I think it's important.

461
00:48:52,910 --> 00:48:55,390
The last one, Pat, or the next time you're going to do it again.

462
00:48:55,610 --> 00:48:59,190
I mean, sooner or later, staff has spent enough time on this.

463
00:48:59,430 --> 00:49:02,070
I think it's important to note where staff is spending the time

464
00:49:02,070 --> 00:49:03,790
as with the planning and zoning commission.

465
00:49:08,770 --> 00:49:13,070
So if we want to save them time, that's where we can do that.

466
00:49:15,410 --> 00:49:23,350
And, you know, there are rules about getting rid of people, and their election of duties, and so prove that.

467
00:49:26,870 --> 00:49:31,210
I don't know that that's the law, but we can talk about that next week when that's on the agenda.

468
00:49:32,110 --> 00:49:34,150
That would be great, Ryan. Can you get it ready?

469
00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:42,260
Excuse me. This is Nancy Tomkivitz with the auditors office.

470
00:49:42,500 --> 00:49:48,560
I just got a little lost on the dates. You have two meeting dates that you've talked about September 30.

471
00:49:48,820 --> 00:49:51,600
Okay, I can't hear you at all. It's right at your name.

472
00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:54,320
Okay, I'll try again. How's this better?

473
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,200
Just for the purpose of the public record, I'm trying to keep track of the meeting dates and

474
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:04,060
who's meeting is it the planning and you've talked about a 10 or 30th meeting and then again,

475
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,760
another meeting on October 7th. Both of those are Wednesdays.

476
00:50:07,940 --> 00:50:10,820
Are they work session meetings? Are they with the P&Z Commission?

477
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,300
Could you just restate it?

478
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:20,360
The tentative meeting on September 30th would be with Mark Ogden and Jerry Anderson from Farm Bureau.

479
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:26,900
I think Josh, in his out of work session, you play all, okay. Thank you. That's what

480
00:50:26,900 --> 00:50:33,720
was confusing to me. But then on the October 7th date, you're talking about, that's

481
00:50:33,720 --> 00:50:38,760
the date that Josh mentioned earlier on this discussion that worked on the work session.

482
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:40,800
Thank you.

483
00:50:42,890 --> 00:50:44,150
Josh, anything else?

484
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,900
I think that I have my direction.

485
00:51:06,980 --> 00:51:07,540
You know, it

486
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:29,400
doesn't sound

487
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:35,060
like it. Thank you. All right, Bencola soon. This will be on a future agenda then.

488
00:51:36,690 --> 00:51:42,630
Yeah. Well, we'll talk to you about that if necessary. Yeah. OK. Thanks.

489
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:49,500
OK. Next on our agenda is

490
00:51:49,500 --> 00:51:54,420
discussed. Change order number one with the Grange Incorporated in the amount of

491
00:51:54,420 --> 00:52:02,720
$4,627.24 for clear quick watershed improvement project did package 1 division 11.

492
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:03,560
Donna.

493
00:52:04,220 --> 00:52:08,100
Donna Brooks, grants coordinator this morning for your review and discussion.

494
00:52:08,820 --> 00:52:13,080
I have changed order 1 with Lagrangian Incorporated, this pertains to division 11 of

495
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,820
bid package 1 of our clear quick watershed improvement project.

496
00:52:16,820 --> 00:52:27,240
This change order is for an additional $4,627.24 to the original contract amount of $137,931.25.

497
00:52:28,060 --> 00:52:36,040
The purpose of this change order is to prevent reduce erosion at the pond pipe out that site by incorporating stone,

498
00:52:36,460 --> 00:52:42,540
extending the pipe outlet to an existing waterway, and repairing a tile that was damaged at the north edge of this pond.

499
00:52:42,540 --> 00:52:49,040
It is the recommendation of the project engineer and our clear quick water shed coordinator, John Raffin,

500
00:52:49,180 --> 00:52:51,580
who is on the phone and available to answer any questions.

501
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:52,720
Should you have them?

502
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:58,520
To move forward with a proposed improvements that are outlined in this change order and to ensure

503
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:03,240
that best practice or best management practices are followed and ultimately results are achieved.

504
00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:07,250
Questions for Donna?

505
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:14,260
Do we have this on my formal agenda then?

506
00:53:16,460 --> 00:53:23,900
it's tomorrow okay board members any questions thank you thank you have a great day

507
00:53:23,900 --> 00:53:31,580
you too okay next up we have discussed Johnson County Armory and Veterans Memorial

508
00:53:31,580 --> 00:53:37,480
Expansion Phase 4 and Gary Bosen eyelers with us good morning Gary good morning

509
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:44,640
Good morning can you hear me all good everyone hear me that's a yes so I'll wait for Mike to pull

510
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:51,020
up, but I'm here today to ask for expansion as a veteran's memorial to reserve the green space

511
00:53:51,020 --> 00:53:56,340
west of the current memorial where the tree that was damaged and Doratio was no longer there.

512
00:53:56,580 --> 00:54:02,860
I've got a picture coming up on the screen that will describe our tentative plans.

513
00:54:03,860 --> 00:54:08,440
Important to note, there will be no additional costs to the Board of Supervisors budget to the

514
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:14,140
county budget. This will be paid for strictly by use of memorial funds and sale of future

515
00:54:14,140 --> 00:54:24,160
I'm calling them etchings, so in lieu of engraving on a brick, we're going to do etchings on black granite, 84 inches tall by 48 inches wide.

516
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,740
They'll be room for 112 spaces,

517
00:54:29,340 --> 00:54:30,660
waiting for that to come up on the screen.

518
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:38,100
Pardon the draft, I've got herky scheduled for some cute, computer-rated drafting with Gary Yoder in the near future,

519
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:43,960
but we're going to extend the walkway using pedestrian mob bricks to repurpose those.

520
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:49,240
have already courted with the City of Iowa City Engineer staff to obtain those bricks.

521
00:54:50,500 --> 00:54:54,060
And then I've coordinated with Watts Monument to add the go-head rod side.

522
00:54:54,340 --> 00:54:57,880
Well, so Gary, is this like to scale as far as you?

523
00:54:58,160 --> 00:54:59,320
Yeah, it's pretty to scale.

524
00:54:59,500 --> 00:55:05,800
It's just extending the walkway straight west to the existing cement side walk.

525
00:55:06,140 --> 00:55:12,460
The tree that's there is gone, so I'd ask for the reserve that entire little island between

526
00:55:12,460 --> 00:55:18,200
side walk in the solar panel fence for future expansion. I'm absolutely fine with that.

527
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:26,140
My only concern is I don't want to get too close to the fence simply because I don't want

528
00:55:26,140 --> 00:55:30,720
the panels interfering with the memorial or the memorial interfering with the panels.

529
00:55:31,240 --> 00:55:36,200
So the walkway extending to the south, we could buffer that with some more landscaping.

530
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:41,220
That

531
00:55:41,220 --> 00:55:45,600
to expansion down the road if our first two grants, so we could definitely

532
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:46,080
discuss.

533
00:55:46,700 --> 00:55:51,420
Even if it was back just a little I would hate it if they had to like fix the

534
00:55:51,420 --> 00:55:55,980
fence or something and somebody who said you're standing on my, you know, my

535
00:55:55,980 --> 00:55:56,720
loved ones.

536
00:55:57,180 --> 00:56:03,520
So the good point that I will reiterate, I hadn't yet mentioned that, but the

537
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,640
peg, the bricks, the walkway, is not for engraving.

538
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:12,960
that's a walkway only just also be on that taller monument yes or no more brick and

539
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:17,740
grating and we we didn't do brick and grating on the last phase on the pet mall bricks only on

540
00:56:17,740 --> 00:56:23,260
the raised beds good good good it's probably less of an issue but still just leaving a little

541
00:56:23,260 --> 00:56:28,200
bit of space I think would be would be wise so yes we can we can work with the last

542
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:33,540
skaters I'm gonna get another bit or two quarter two before we move forward but that's what

543
00:56:33,540 --> 00:56:38,680
asking for us so we don't need to revisit this if we expand again is to just kind of reserve

544
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:46,020
that spot that island. I'm going to have the utilities folks come out and mark I don't believe

545
00:56:46,020 --> 00:56:49,620
there's anything there I've got pictures from the last time we did that but just to be safe.

546
00:56:52,300 --> 00:57:00,880
Questions for Gary? Gary it's you know thank you very much for taking this project on and continuing with

547
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:05,240
but glad people are interested in it, and thank you.

548
00:57:05,540 --> 00:57:06,140
You're welcome.

549
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:10,880
Any other questions for Gary?

550
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,300
When do you plan on having this start and finish?

551
00:57:19,540 --> 00:57:20,740
Starts yesterday.

552
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,740
Once I get a couple more quotes,

553
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:24,940
we'll do some advertising.

554
00:57:25,420 --> 00:57:27,500
I do have about 10 orders that people

555
00:57:27,500 --> 00:57:30,720
have sent me without any advertising,

556
00:57:31,460 --> 00:57:33,160
just like two years ago in May,

557
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:39,440
May 30 of 2018 is when we last asked for expansion and I had about 10 stand-by orders.

558
00:57:40,860 --> 00:57:47,960
So my one contractor that I've contacted so far for the walkway can start this fall.

559
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:52,500
Some of the larger landscaping businesses can't start until spring.

560
00:57:53,200 --> 00:58:01,680
So I think as far as selling, I'm going to meet with my commission one more time to lock in a price per sale,

561
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,860
And once I have a couple more estimates to determine that rate, and then we'll start advertising

562
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:08,640
and watts monument.

563
00:58:09,380 --> 00:58:12,440
I've not asked for a deadline, but we've been working for months to get this ready.

564
00:58:13,620 --> 00:58:14,700
So COVID-19 related.

565
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:19,840
I can't say for sure, but we're ready to break ground on the walkway this fall.

566
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,280
I don't want to anticipate the grant until.

567
00:58:23,900 --> 00:58:26,720
Talk me through the funding.

568
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,120
Obviously, it's not tax dollars.

569
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:34,620
are going into this, but do we have to approve the expenditure? Will you have to come to us

570
00:58:34,620 --> 00:58:36,440
with a request? Will you have that budget?

571
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:42,440
We did not do that. We had to work session only back in May of 2018. We continued with

572
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:50,040
the original sale price of the bricks from 2013. When we started with $75, we raised that

573
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:57,460
to $200 and that was to compensate for the increased cost of inflation and supplies, etc.

574
00:58:57,460 --> 00:59:03,320
but we did not discuss that previously the price, most important part is there will be

575
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:07,580
no cost additional. I would like to maybe amend bullet number two on associated costs,

576
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:14,340
which I submitted. I wrote no cost to the county. I think I want to add no additional cost to the

577
00:59:14,340 --> 00:59:19,640
county. The reason I'm stating that is because of my estimates so far on the work.

578
00:59:21,060 --> 00:59:24,800
I just are a little higher than what the commission and I agreed on. We voted last

579
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:30,640
month on a hundred and fifty per order. I'm totally in favor of this. I just want

580
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:35,360
to make sure that when the auditor's office gets a claim. Okay. They feel as though

581
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:42,380
it's got the proper approval to pay the claim. So up until this point, not one

582
00:59:42,380 --> 00:59:48,300
sat has been spent with county funds. I understand that's not my concern. I just

583
00:59:48,300 --> 00:59:54,060
want to make sure that some vendor doesn't. So the funds on a payment because the

584
00:59:54,060 --> 00:59:56,180
or his office doesn't feel like they have authority.

585
00:59:56,420 --> 00:59:57,940
So the funds that he goes through the order,

586
00:59:58,120 --> 00:59:59,920
they go through the job's counting it.

587
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:09,640
Community foundation. Yes, so that right. Yes, and right now our balance is $9,750 and 43 cents.

588
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:14,320
Then you can spend down and you'll get reimbursed by the sale of the etchings.

589
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:22,700
We've separated our county budget from the Memorial Fund, so when this money comes in for this, it goes to the foundation, knocked out stairs.

590
01:00:22,700 --> 01:00:29,120
that answered my question. Thank you. Board members, other thoughts or questions for Gary?

591
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:35,780
Well, this looks really good, Gary, and thank you for showing us what you're thinking.

592
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,380
It looks great, and we look forward to seeing the finished product.

593
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:45,800
So, I've got a prool to have that spot reserved, so we don't need to revisit this in two years.

594
01:00:46,260 --> 01:00:50,180
I believe so, but let's just make sure we'll do a quick roll call, make sure we're ready.

595
01:00:50,180 --> 01:00:57,890
great. Lisa, you okay with that? Yeah. And Recyan?

596
01:01:04,300 --> 01:01:04,760
Recyan?

597
01:01:07,340 --> 01:01:07,520
Yeah.

598
01:01:07,740 --> 01:01:15,080
Gra. Okay, thank you. Do you know? Yes. Yes. And I will obviously keep you informed

599
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:20,940
of all that plans expansion, et cetera. But that's a way for now. Thank you. Very good. Thank you.

600
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:28,640
I'm going to suggest that we take a quick break and we will come back and chat about our telephone

601
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:29,500
line capacity.

602
01:01:45,570 --> 01:01:50,570
Are we ready? Okay, let's go back in session. We are at item number

603
01:01:50,570 --> 01:01:55,230
five in our agenda and that is discuss expanding the county's telephone line capacity.

604
01:01:56,990 --> 01:02:01,550
Good morning. Good morning, board. I'm Bill Harning, IT director. I have Shannon in

605
01:02:01,550 --> 01:02:07,310
this with me who takes care of our phone system for the most part. So I've been asked to come before

606
01:02:07,310 --> 01:02:10,970
to talk about phone lines and the availability.

607
01:02:11,430 --> 01:02:16,270
There has been concern, raised, since COVID happened,

608
01:02:16,290 --> 01:02:18,190
and we're doing a lot of call-in sessions,

609
01:02:19,830 --> 01:02:21,630
that we may run out of lines.

610
01:02:21,970 --> 01:02:25,710
And in fact, on August 26, during one of your,

611
01:02:25,710 --> 01:02:32,650
it was a work session, due to issues with IQ M2,

612
01:02:32,830 --> 01:02:35,750
that was unable to be used more people called in,

613
01:02:35,750 --> 01:02:39,710
and we actually did have one or two people come up with a busy signal.

614
01:02:40,650 --> 01:02:44,850
From our research, we found our system only told us that we had,

615
01:02:44,930 --> 01:02:48,850
we still had a line available, even though people were not able to get in

616
01:02:48,850 --> 01:02:52,490
and apparently there was also a phone glitch at that time and it sounded like

617
01:02:52,490 --> 01:02:56,250
for my understanding, people got dropped off and had to redile in which

618
01:02:56,250 --> 01:02:57,450
obviously caused a problem.

619
01:02:58,350 --> 01:03:01,950
So we have been watching our availability of lines,

620
01:03:01,950 --> 01:03:09,290
As you are, I think aware at this point, we have two PRIs, is what they're called.

621
01:03:09,390 --> 01:03:12,750
Each of those lines produce 24 phone lines for us.

622
01:03:12,770 --> 01:03:20,530
We buy them in a bundle, as a PRI, the first PRI, two of those lines are used for overhead.

623
01:03:20,790 --> 01:03:23,010
So that manages the two systems.

624
01:03:23,370 --> 01:03:29,250
So in reality, we have 46 available phone lines at any time for the county.

625
01:03:29,250 --> 01:03:32,610
And that is right now for all of Johnson County.

626
01:03:33,910 --> 01:03:39,290
So that means 46 lines called in, or if we have a person calling out,

627
01:03:39,330 --> 01:03:40,770
that will suck up one of those lines.

628
01:03:41,290 --> 01:03:45,350
So we have 46 phone calls either inbound or outbound combined.

629
01:03:45,730 --> 01:03:46,550
Can I ask a question, Bill?

630
01:03:46,630 --> 01:03:46,830
Sure.

631
01:03:47,010 --> 01:03:51,970
When you say for all of Johnson County, does that count, you know, seats and secondary roads?

632
01:03:52,730 --> 01:03:55,170
Yes, that's so that's courthouse, everybody.

633
01:03:56,470 --> 01:03:56,650
Yep.

634
01:03:56,650 --> 01:04:01,470
Yeah, we are all networked together, everyone's on the theme phone system.

635
01:04:02,610 --> 01:04:10,010
We do have analog lines, some external lines that get ported into the PRI, so I don't know

636
01:04:10,010 --> 01:04:11,990
we've got what it does in or so.

637
01:04:12,630 --> 01:04:15,290
Mostly the analog phone lines are used for alarms.

638
01:04:15,790 --> 01:04:20,230
Alarm's in fact is, but we do have calling lines, so if we had that kind of problem, we

639
01:04:20,230 --> 01:04:24,650
have a physical phone line that for some departments would have an actual physical line that

640
01:04:24,650 --> 01:04:25,790
could call in as well.

641
01:04:25,790 --> 01:04:31,070
they are ported what they call ported into our trunk so they're used as part of the additional

642
01:04:31,070 --> 01:04:38,750
lines that are out there. But it doesn't add to the count of 46 lines even though there's other

643
01:04:38,750 --> 01:04:45,590
lines. So they would replace a broken 46 line system but not add to because they're ported in.

644
01:04:45,710 --> 01:04:53,350
So if you call a number that's a separate analog line it would get trumped ported into the group of

645
01:04:53,350 --> 01:05:01,290
numbers anyway. So since the problem we've always been watching our count. I mean, so we pay attention to the availability of full lines.

646
01:05:01,410 --> 01:05:05,310
I mean, you know, we feel like that's part of our job. We should understand what's going on.

647
01:05:05,630 --> 01:05:13,690
We have not seen, you know, even since COVID happened, high usage into our second set of full lines.

648
01:05:13,730 --> 01:05:21,270
Our first 24 is where we operate most of the time and occasionally bump up into that second available 24 lines.

649
01:05:21,270 --> 01:05:24,670
So, over the past three months,

650
01:05:27,290 --> 01:05:30,750
at the total, yeah, 28 meetings in the last three months.

651
01:05:31,450 --> 01:05:39,630
And out of those 28 meetings, only six of them did we actually get into more than half of the second set of available lines.

652
01:05:39,710 --> 01:05:43,650
So, we used 12 or more of the 24 available lines.

653
01:05:44,410 --> 01:05:48,990
Twice was high 22 and a 23 when you had the problem.

654
01:05:49,970 --> 01:05:56,270
So all the rest of the time, we were bumping up into that second, you know, always having 12, basically, we always had 12 lines available.

655
01:05:56,990 --> 01:06:04,510
And this picture is a momentary picture in time. It's not, you only had those 12 lines available through your whole meeting.

656
01:06:04,990 --> 01:06:08,490
You know, the calls come in and out of the county all the time, right? So those numbers change.

657
01:06:09,110 --> 01:06:13,170
These are the peak usage, right? So that momentary issue.

658
01:06:13,630 --> 01:06:18,210
Most of these, if you sit there and look at the data, you'll see that number go up and then immediately start dropping it off.

659
01:06:19,830 --> 01:06:35,470
The way we track this is we look at we take a snapshot of how many lines are used every five minutes, so I don't have a minute by minute representation, but every five minutes we go out and say how many lines are used right that to a lot, how many lines are used right that to a lot,

660
01:06:35,470 --> 01:06:42,690
type activity, so it gives us a good look at it, average wise and when you start averaging all the days in the last three months,

661
01:06:42,690 --> 01:06:47,210
We usually, the average really is one of those 24 lines

662
01:06:47,210 --> 01:06:49,570
are in use at any time during the day.

663
01:06:49,850 --> 01:06:53,830
Between 7 a.m and 7 p.m. and we took out the midnight hours

664
01:06:53,830 --> 01:06:55,890
because if you had those zeros and it,

665
01:06:55,890 --> 01:06:56,830
the lower is not even lower.

666
01:06:57,010 --> 01:06:59,990
So we tried to do it, well it's realistic to, you know,

667
01:07:00,110 --> 01:07:02,970
when the county is still in a state to five or something.

668
01:07:03,150 --> 01:07:04,510
7 to 7. 7 7.

669
01:07:05,470 --> 01:07:08,310
Because we do a lot of people do start early in the day

670
01:07:08,310 --> 01:07:10,230
and as a transfer of role contest, there's people calling

671
01:07:10,230 --> 01:07:13,930
first thing in a morning, and then obviously they stayed later at night.

672
01:07:14,270 --> 01:07:20,450
Well, I wanted to include your 530 PM meetings, which is why I went to 7 PM, and I did

673
01:07:20,450 --> 01:07:26,150
note that on all of the, I captured three of your 530 PM meetings, and we never got into

674
01:07:26,150 --> 01:07:28,450
the second PRI on those meetings.

675
01:07:30,970 --> 01:07:35,670
So, really, for us, that's why we didn't come to you and say we had a phone line problem.

676
01:07:35,670 --> 01:07:41,670
You know, I understand you had a problem that one night and yes, as you saw the email that was passed around

677
01:07:41,670 --> 01:07:46,430
There is certainly the potential if you had a

678
01:07:46,430 --> 01:07:47,790
a public meeting that

679
01:07:49,570 --> 01:07:58,050
A PDS meeting that a hundred people wanted to attend from outside and and due to COVID and they all tried to call in we could not we couldn't support that

680
01:07:58,050 --> 01:07:59,930
We have 46 lines

681
01:08:00,510 --> 01:08:05,650
46 connections that's it the 47th caller gets a busy signal 48th caller gets a busy signal

682
01:08:06,350 --> 01:08:11,970
Now, with that many people, our feeling is you had a problem a lot of that had to do it because

683
01:08:11,970 --> 01:08:13,550
of IQM2 not being available.

684
01:08:14,190 --> 01:08:16,270
They couldn't listen so then they're going to call in.

685
01:08:17,430 --> 01:08:21,970
We'll make sure that doesn't happen again, obviously, or do our best to make sure that doesn't

686
01:08:21,970 --> 01:08:22,390
happen again.

687
01:08:22,410 --> 01:08:27,770
That should help alleviate your problem, but I'm not here to tell you whether you should

688
01:08:27,770 --> 01:08:28,590
or shouldn't buy lines.

689
01:08:28,590 --> 01:08:38,070
If you feel that is the need, we certainly can add another PRI or add additional lines to our availability.

690
01:08:39,210 --> 01:08:44,190
That being said, I will bring up the access center, which is coming online later this year,

691
01:08:44,850 --> 01:08:50,850
when we get to have that conversation with them, they are asking for 30 phones, and Shannon,

692
01:08:51,010 --> 01:08:55,050
I have had this discussion without talking to them as a group, but we feel we'll probably

693
01:08:55,050 --> 01:09:01,310
want to add us another PRI at that time in other 24 lines to make sure that we don't come

694
01:09:01,310 --> 01:09:07,690
up short on phone lines with bringing on 30 additional phones to an access center that we feel

695
01:09:07,690 --> 01:09:13,830
like there's going to be a fair amount of phone activity. But that's not here yet so we weren't

696
01:09:13,830 --> 01:09:22,030
ready to purchase that information. So let me just follow up on that if I can. So I mean they're

697
01:09:22,030 --> 01:09:29,690
on being open in January. So you think we're going to need another PRI for January for sure.

698
01:09:30,290 --> 01:09:30,290
Correct.

699
01:09:32,410 --> 01:09:38,370
So to address any PDS complaints between now and then the only difference.

700
01:09:38,970 --> 01:09:43,290
I mean we don't have the difference we'll be paying for a couple of months before we have to pay for it

701
01:09:44,650 --> 01:09:51,290
So this, you know, I didn't think this was the cost of doing business COVID and we should get it.

702
01:09:52,350 --> 01:09:58,090
We'll need it anyway and, you know, if after we're through COVID, we can get rid of some lines.

703
01:09:58,330 --> 01:09:59,550
We can have that discussion.

704
01:10:02,140 --> 01:10:08,360
Yeah, our, our feel right now without having the discussion with the access center until they actually come up and start running.

705
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:12,100
It's hard, you know, you can make a lot of assumptions of what they're going to do.

706
01:10:12,100 --> 01:10:17,080
But based on that type of facility, Shannon and I feel like that is probably going to suck

707
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,060
up a fair amount of lines on a pretty routine basis.

708
01:10:20,620 --> 01:10:25,200
And rather than, absolutely, they're built because mobile crisis is a large part of that

709
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:25,640
too.

710
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:32,020
And, you know, they had missing a lot of their actions through phone call.

711
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:33,000
Sure.

712
01:10:33,660 --> 01:10:39,140
So, we feel like we will need that line, but we weren't planning on that until later until

713
01:10:39,140 --> 01:10:44,100
was the email came out in the concern about the public

714
01:10:44,100 --> 01:10:44,880
acts against.

715
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:49,340
So in that process, we reached out to our provider area on an

716
01:10:49,340 --> 01:10:51,820
asked, what would it take to add that?

717
01:10:52,180 --> 01:10:57,280
We are purchased with them right now, and this

718
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:58,340
gets a little technical.

719
01:10:58,500 --> 01:11:00,900
So they're copper-wired PRI.

720
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:05,260
So the phone windscreen provides the kind of

721
01:11:05,260 --> 01:11:05,820
centrally.

722
01:11:05,820 --> 01:11:06,580
Century links, excuse me.

723
01:11:06,580 --> 01:11:12,440
provides the connectivity we buy the surface through areas, so they use the local providers

724
01:11:12,440 --> 01:11:17,820
copper wires to make that connection. When we asked about doing that, adding another one,

725
01:11:18,020 --> 01:11:25,060
they said, we know we want to switch you to a over-fiber connection, so they have fiber cable that

726
01:11:25,060 --> 01:11:29,480
would bring it in. Instead of using sensory links wires, they would do their own system.

727
01:11:30,340 --> 01:11:34,740
So then, immediately, they said that was a little bit cheaper, it's about $140 a month cheaper

728
01:11:34,740 --> 01:11:38,820
to do it that way. So we said, what about let's move them all over? Because the other problem

729
01:11:38,820 --> 01:11:43,300
is we couldn't trunk those together. So they said, I can add you this one, but you can't

730
01:11:43,300 --> 01:11:48,220
roll it over for your existing 46. That's not going to work. Let's get them all onto the

731
01:11:48,220 --> 01:11:54,500
fiber, get them all so they're all available lines for the county. So anyway, we can get that done.

732
01:11:54,780 --> 01:12:01,880
It's probably a 30 to 45 day rollout. Now we will ask them to do all efforts to try to do that

733
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:07,280
quicker, but just to let you know, we're not going to be able to turn this on in a week.

734
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,300
It's like they said, they're normal a lot of time, it's 30 to 45 days.

735
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:15,280
We will push and try to get that sooner, but I can't make any promises that's going to happen.

736
01:12:16,380 --> 01:12:21,240
And since this is clearly a COVID-related expense, I haven't checked with Dan or Donna,

737
01:12:21,540 --> 01:12:24,500
but we can see if that would qualify for reimbursement.

738
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:30,740
Well, okay, so, but if we're going to continue to use it, then doesn't it make?

739
01:12:30,740 --> 01:12:36,260
But we could do it in for a month, for a few months that you're saying we need to do it for the center of the.

740
01:12:36,740 --> 01:12:36,980
Yeah, right.

741
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,020
I mean, however, that's all fine.

742
01:12:40,260 --> 01:12:45,300
I mean, the process will take a little bit to get some additional lines if we want to go that route.

743
01:12:45,340 --> 01:12:52,040
We will switch them all over onto the fiber base system, get away from the centrally copper wires.

744
01:12:52,260 --> 01:12:56,200
We've talked to him about adding redundancy out at secondary roads.

745
01:12:56,900 --> 01:12:59,400
Because that's how we have it set up now with our copper wires.

746
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:03,520
We have 24 come in here downtown and 24 delivered it's secondary road.

747
01:13:03,660 --> 01:13:07,460
So if we have a physical problem, we maintain at least 24 lines.

748
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:13,180
We would want to try to do the same thing with the fiber and have both access points

749
01:13:13,180 --> 01:13:16,680
so that we have redundancy and not leave us without a phone system.

750
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:24,220
We purchase internet access from them so that they work quite well with us.

751
01:13:24,220 --> 01:13:28,220
And so we'll do our best to make that happen.

752
01:13:29,020 --> 01:13:32,320
So board members, questions for Bill or Shannon?

753
01:13:35,340 --> 01:13:38,140
No, I think we need it though. I'm for it.

754
01:13:40,090 --> 01:13:44,190
I'm okay with that. I hear Pat, Lisa, everybody else?

755
01:13:45,670 --> 01:13:49,230
Yeah, yeah. I'm for it.

756
01:13:49,230 --> 01:13:52,350
Okay, sounds like we've got unanimous agreement then.

757
01:13:52,350 --> 01:13:59,710
So you're agreeing to add at 21 additional PRI, 24 additional lines to the system.

758
01:13:59,810 --> 01:14:01,010
And to move everything, moving.

759
01:14:01,050 --> 01:14:02,250
And to move it to the structure.

760
01:14:03,930 --> 01:14:09,170
So can we, I'm asking you now, can I start the process and get everything done where they'll

761
01:14:09,170 --> 01:14:15,610
have a new contract for us to sign and bring that at a later date to you, can I bring that

762
01:14:15,610 --> 01:14:17,230
do I need to bring it to another work session?

763
01:14:17,310 --> 01:14:21,930
Do you want me to bring that directly to, I think we're telling you to go ahead and do

764
01:14:21,930 --> 01:14:24,430
the work will prove the claim as it comes.

765
01:14:24,430 --> 01:14:25,390
As it comes, okay.

766
01:14:25,730 --> 01:14:27,690
I'd move along as quickly as you can.

767
01:14:28,170 --> 01:14:31,270
I will push them as hard as I can to get that down right away.

768
01:14:32,130 --> 01:14:39,170
And then I guess the other thing is, I know that PDS has a little bit of concern about

769
01:14:40,550 --> 01:14:43,510
the October night meeting that we'll have here.

770
01:14:43,510 --> 01:14:48,390
And I think we just need to honestly ask them and we can work with some of the folks

771
01:14:48,390 --> 01:14:58,330
To try to stagger maybe when people are calling in saying like look if you want to call in for this or that application wait till this time, you know

772
01:14:58,330 --> 01:14:59,970
So I think we can work to make sure

773
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,900
Further than nobody gets shut out, and honestly it sounds like after that it won't be an issue.

774
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:15,040
So, true. And another option you would have is to fire up a Zoom meeting as part of your meeting. You could still have your call in and provide a Zoom meeting as well.

775
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:23,880
So, if you have people down in through Zoom that are have mics and information, you know, their computer will handle that instead of doing a phone line.

776
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:30,900
So having that as an additional option might help alleviate some of those, for those technical, more technical savvy.

777
01:15:31,300 --> 01:15:31,480
Okay.

778
01:15:31,740 --> 01:15:32,160
Consistuous.

779
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:34,140
All right.

780
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,000
Well, thank you for that info.

781
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:38,320
And it sounds like we're moving ahead.

782
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:38,900
Thanks a lot.

783
01:15:39,220 --> 01:15:39,620
Thank you.

784
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:40,780
You guys have a great day.

785
01:15:41,140 --> 01:15:41,860
You too.

786
01:15:43,380 --> 01:15:43,740
Okay.

787
01:15:44,900 --> 01:15:49,280
Next on our agenda is discussing agreement with IID Bailey to prepare

788
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:54,980
Post reports for the ground emergency medical transportation or GEMT program.

789
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:55,400
Fiona.

790
01:15:55,740 --> 01:15:55,940
Hi.

791
01:15:56,540 --> 01:15:56,760
Hi.

792
01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:01,660
This is no different than last year that, you know, you all were good with moving forward

793
01:16:01,660 --> 01:16:06,580
with IBLA has been a pleasure to work with and so we would like to go ahead and work

794
01:16:06,580 --> 01:16:07,520
with them again this year.

795
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:12,800
The GMT has been a nice addition and we'd like to go ahead and continue.

796
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:20,660
And can you remind us roughly how much more of this brought in this past fiscal year?

797
01:16:20,940 --> 01:16:28,300
Oh goodness. Our state share sits around 400,000.

798
01:16:29,060 --> 01:16:31,500
Pretty good return on a $2,000 bus.

799
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:31,960
Yes.

800
01:16:33,380 --> 01:16:39,800
And you do expect because we're going to have before it was kind of projected and now we have

801
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:43,100
actual costs and so you do expect it's going to be a little bit lower in this upcoming

802
01:16:43,100 --> 01:16:43,200
year.

803
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:47,240
That is that is the realistic number based out of our.

804
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:54,080
The young as you know, I last week in the claims was a fairly large claim of us came

805
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:55,280
back to state.

806
01:16:55,700 --> 01:16:55,740
Yep.

807
01:16:55,980 --> 01:16:58,300
Was that because of an audit or why?

808
01:16:58,480 --> 01:17:00,340
No, that's that's the norm.

809
01:17:00,940 --> 01:17:05,160
Last year our first invoice was for an amount comparable to that.

810
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:11,980
they some of their invoices are for six months period of time and then once they get

811
01:17:11,980 --> 01:17:17,780
that first invoice out then it goes on to a monthly. So the next one will probably

812
01:17:17,780 --> 01:17:23,320
be about $10,000 so it's usually a big one up front and then smaller ones for the remainder

813
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:31,240
of that fiscal year but it all lines up with the percentage that we get to keep versus what

814
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:37,380
we send you features. The claim was us paying them and that's why I was wondering if it was

815
01:17:37,380 --> 01:17:43,380
related to an audit? Nope, it's all part of the intergovernmental transfer agreement which you guys

816
01:17:43,380 --> 01:17:50,280
also signed last year and will have again on your 30th work session. So it's just we get all the money

817
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:56,740
and then we have to transfer some of it to the agent. I get it. Yep, thank you. I just needed to hit me over the

818
01:17:56,740 --> 01:17:57,620
No problem.

819
01:17:57,620 --> 01:17:58,440
Similar to the records.

820
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:00,660
Then we have to give them their share.

821
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:01,260
Exactly.

822
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:02,900
Well, it's a big check.

823
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:04,860
All right.

824
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:06,460
Well, I'm poor of this.

825
01:18:06,460 --> 01:18:07,480
I barely think.

826
01:18:07,620 --> 01:18:08,000
Thank you.

827
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:11,560
It's similar to the reconciliation that we've always had to do with case management.

828
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:13,780
If that helps people.

829
01:18:15,860 --> 01:18:16,040
Okay.

830
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:17,780
So everybody's okay with this.

831
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:18,980
It sounds like.

832
01:18:19,180 --> 01:18:19,400
Yeah.

833
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:19,980
And it's on for tomorrow.

834
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:21,040
And it's on for tomorrow.

835
01:18:21,260 --> 01:18:21,560
Thank you.

836
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:22,660
Thank you.

837
01:18:22,660 --> 01:18:23,780
Thank you very much.

838
01:18:25,340 --> 01:18:25,820
Okay.

839
01:18:25,820 --> 01:18:32,080
Okay, next discuss fiscal year 2022 budget schedule, John.

840
01:18:32,700 --> 01:18:34,540
Hello, John, Hanofford budget analyst.

841
01:18:35,940 --> 01:18:40,940
Okay, so we at terms out we ran into a few conflicts in the dates.

842
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:46,960
So I think we just need to hammer those out and whatever works best for you guys.

843
01:18:47,140 --> 01:18:50,960
And then we can have a final schedule put together.

844
01:18:52,080 --> 01:19:00,640
Hey, John, it's you know, I didn't have a conflict with ISAC, I just wanted to make sure you knew it and can use other people did.

845
01:19:02,970 --> 01:19:06,170
I think that was December 7th and 8th.

846
01:19:06,470 --> 01:19:14,250
And just for one, I'm just to point out everybody on Monday, January 4th, you're a tentatively plan to meet from 130 to 4.

847
01:19:14,390 --> 01:19:20,890
Remember that that morning, you live your organizational meeting, just want to point out to you for the morning meeting.

848
01:19:21,990 --> 01:19:27,890
The generally aren't that long, but there's no promise how long that would be.

849
01:19:28,870 --> 01:19:34,030
And John, you took out a MLK day from this, too, is that correct?

850
01:19:34,190 --> 01:19:35,310
Yes, that is correct.

851
01:19:36,910 --> 01:19:43,830
So basically, the January 19th and 20th, I just pushed those up a day.

852
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,680
It was Monday and Tuesday, and I was Tuesday and Wednesday.

853
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:55,930
Yeah, I guess the I-SAC thing so I mean they have it on their schedule but it really seems unusual that

854
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,720
People would get together in a large group

855
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:07,200
Given this I don't know if they are so I don't know if that's it may be all online. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, I mean

856
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:11,860
I don't know if you want to move those days or just leave on my

857
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:17,690
Did anybody have plans to do anything with I-SAC during that time?

858
01:20:20,330 --> 01:20:26,610
It wasn't even awesome, the department had, I just brought it up, I mean, I didn't know

859
01:20:26,610 --> 01:20:31,790
if it would be online if people would be teaching classes or what,

860
01:20:37,050 --> 01:20:39,250
uh, well we could

861
01:20:39,250 --> 01:20:43,570
probably even, even if it was that day and they did have something we could work around

862
01:20:43,570 --> 01:20:45,370
their schedule probably.

863
01:20:46,130 --> 01:20:47,250
Yeah, I think so too.

864
01:20:47,370 --> 01:20:47,890
Okay.

865
01:20:49,190 --> 01:20:52,530
Okay, so tentatively now we'll just leave those days as they are.

866
01:20:52,530 --> 01:21:02,050
All right, one of the things that I would like to do is on Tuesday, December 15th.

867
01:21:02,650 --> 01:21:11,050
We have conservation and MHDS and historically those have always been later in the process

868
01:21:11,050 --> 01:21:16,530
because they have their waiting for things to happen, their conservation's waiting to talk

869
01:21:16,530 --> 01:21:18,350
to their board, blah, blah, blah.

870
01:21:18,350 --> 01:21:30,550
So I'd actually like to move them from Tuesday, December 15th to January 12th, Tuesday, January 12th.

871
01:21:31,030 --> 01:21:44,750
And that would be along with we talk some about the black grants and also that would be the tentatively scheduled as the day of your first vote on the decision packages.

872
01:21:44,750 --> 01:21:47,750
if that would be okay.

873
01:21:48,350 --> 01:21:52,050
So John, do you then leave the MHDS and conservation balls?

874
01:21:53,450 --> 01:21:57,130
No, I'd move MHDS and conservation balls.

875
01:21:57,130 --> 01:22:00,110
Both of them, I'm sorry, I just heard conservation.

876
01:22:00,470 --> 01:22:02,310
So move them to anywhere you want?

877
01:22:02,950 --> 01:22:06,530
Uh, January Tuesday, January 12th.

878
01:22:09,620 --> 01:22:13,800
But then you'd still keep the block ran decisions and the first.

879
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:15,180
Yeah, and the vote.

880
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:16,780
That's a pretty long meal.

881
01:22:16,780 --> 01:22:32,700
It kind of does seem like a lot, I don't know what to think about that. I guess if things run over, we could push some things into Tuesday and maybe things from Tuesday and to Wednesday, or I don't know.

882
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,520
Well, okay, let's think.

883
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:39,360
I just really think they really need to, they're going to ask to be moved.

884
01:22:39,860 --> 01:22:42,280
Should we, to some point?

885
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:45,800
So here's just a thought for board members.

886
01:22:47,460 --> 01:22:52,900
What if we went Tuesday, January 12th,

887
01:22:53,020 --> 01:22:58,380
we moved those two that you suggested, to the 12th,

888
01:22:58,420 --> 01:23:02,340
and then we moved the 12th to the afternoon of the 13th

889
01:23:02,340 --> 01:23:02,880
of January.

890
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:07,360
OK, because we should have board members

891
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:09,720
should have one stay after noon reserved.

892
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:19,020
That seems like a lot more doable, plus you have a little bit of process in time for

893
01:23:19,020 --> 01:23:20,400
before we make the decision.

894
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:24,040
Yeah, you'd have at least 24 hours to think about it.

895
01:23:24,260 --> 01:23:24,340
Yeah.

896
01:23:24,500 --> 01:23:25,340
That's true.

897
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:28,200
Makes sense.

898
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:29,540
Okay.

899
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,740
And that would be like a one or a one, 30 or something.

900
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:40,450
And so then you're just going to get rid of Tuesday at the 15th.

901
01:23:40,450 --> 01:23:47,590
we'll just go away. Yeah. Okay. I just have one thing though on the 12th. We'll still be

902
01:23:47,590 --> 01:23:54,310
the afternoon, right? Yeah. Conservation and mental health. Yes. Okay, because I can't do

903
01:23:54,310 --> 01:23:55,690
the morning. Okay.

904
01:24:01,330 --> 01:24:05,310
All right. That would be great. And then you'll make those edits and

905
01:24:05,310 --> 01:24:11,470
send it back over to us for a. Yeah. Final that we can all print off and post. And. Yeah.

906
01:24:14,950 --> 01:24:15,430
That's

907
01:24:15,430 --> 01:24:23,970
that I already went ahead and changed was the last two items, which is your informal vote and formal vote on the budget itself.

908
01:24:24,690 --> 01:24:36,470
That moved to March 18, 25, which is later in March than we typically have done it, but we should be okay, it's just we have to get it.

909
01:24:36,470 --> 01:24:41,510
you know, in the state system before the end of March, and Dana says that we'd already

910
01:24:41,510 --> 01:24:46,390
be in there well before that. We got 15 more days now than we used to have. Yeah.

911
01:24:47,090 --> 01:24:52,410
All right, great. Or do members have anything else for John with the schedule

912
01:24:52,410 --> 01:24:59,530
is here? No, John, when we, we're, um, this episode that back to us, so we have a clean copy.

913
01:24:59,950 --> 01:25:07,880
Sure. Thank you. Yeah, I'll go downstairs to it right now and email it to you. Okay. All right.

914
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:08,620
Thank you.

915
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:09,640
Thank you.

916
01:25:10,260 --> 01:25:11,720
Thank you.

917
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:12,180
Okay.

918
01:25:13,440 --> 01:25:20,500
Next on our agenda is discussing on bargaining appeals, job, reevaluation, recommendations,

919
01:25:21,940 --> 01:25:23,860
and we've got Kami here with us.

920
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:24,560
Good morning.

921
01:25:24,860 --> 01:25:25,260
Good morning.

922
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:27,320
So, Kami, our chef, human resources.

923
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:35,520
So before you that were included in your packet, should have been all of the reevaluation

924
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:36,360
recommendations.

925
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:48,780
I believe there were nine total job positions titles that were included, so employees met with the HR compensation team.

926
01:25:49,180 --> 01:25:57,740
We also met with supervisors and department heads of the affected job titles to get their input as well before it was rescoord.

927
01:25:57,900 --> 01:26:04,700
So all of them were met with evaluated and rescoord and then these are the recommendations coming before you.

928
01:26:07,770 --> 01:26:11,470
So are there, do you have any questions on any of those?

929
01:26:13,550 --> 01:26:16,410
Well, I think I'd do maybe.

930
01:26:17,510 --> 01:26:20,130
And I think it might just be wording.

931
01:26:23,660 --> 01:26:26,400
So can you walk me through the finance administrator one?

932
01:26:26,940 --> 01:26:26,980
Absolutely.

933
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:35,660
And I did speak with the, one of, I know the liaison's for the supervisor as well, or for this position.

934
01:26:36,940 --> 01:26:44,360
So, we, in the submission, the evaluation information that was submitted for this position,

935
01:26:45,140 --> 01:26:53,200
there was some added information that would be needed to be added to the job description.

936
01:26:53,980 --> 01:26:59,140
Completely agree with the addition that needs to be done, but the job description would have to be completely,

937
01:26:59,140 --> 01:27:02,480
or to be updated in order for us to use that information.

938
01:27:02,480 --> 01:27:06,480
So then I guess my question is are we, is the recommendation

939
01:27:06,480 --> 01:27:09,920
that they have to wait a year or that they could make

940
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:15,560
those changes, run them through the HR, run them through

941
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:19,780
the supervisors, assuming the changes are made,

942
01:27:19,860 --> 01:27:20,660
then it would be effective?

943
01:27:20,780 --> 01:27:22,240
Yes, so the second there.

944
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:25,980
So once the job description is updated, then it would

945
01:27:25,980 --> 01:27:29,940
get re-evaluated again in what using the safe tools.

946
01:27:30,940 --> 01:27:35,180
Okay, it wasn't clear to me if the person had to wait a year.

947
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:36,560
No, I apologize for that.

948
01:27:36,700 --> 01:27:37,380
No, that's okay.

949
01:27:37,380 --> 01:27:40,400
It's just a quirk of the form, I guess, a little bit.

950
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:44,000
So once it was updated completely, then it would be re-evaluated.

951
01:27:47,700 --> 01:27:52,440
Because this evaluation when they're appealing, they're appealing their actual job description that they have.

952
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:54,760
We can't change the job description at the time.

953
01:27:57,500 --> 01:27:57,760
Okay.

954
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,020
Board members, any other questions?

955
01:28:00,020 --> 01:28:00,780
I'm

956
01:28:08,460 --> 01:28:20,130
not hearing any so given that do we have this on Mike at all or we'll put it on next week next week so we're for you folks

957
01:28:21,930 --> 01:28:22,990
Doesn't work for you

958
01:28:25,110 --> 01:28:30,710
Okay, board members that okay if they're ready put this on for formal next week. Yes

959
01:28:32,010 --> 01:28:33,050
Okay, yep

960
01:28:33,050 --> 01:28:35,890
All right, we appreciate your work on this.

961
01:28:36,190 --> 01:28:36,810
Thank you.

962
01:28:36,910 --> 01:28:37,430
Thank you.

963
01:28:37,550 --> 01:28:37,850
Can we?

964
01:28:37,990 --> 01:28:40,030
This is your last official day here.

965
01:28:40,070 --> 01:28:40,570
It is.

966
01:28:41,430 --> 01:28:42,970
Well, good luck.

967
01:28:43,870 --> 01:28:48,310
But thank you for your dedicated dedication and service to Johnson County.

968
01:28:48,650 --> 01:28:50,690
And I just really appreciate it working with you.

969
01:28:50,690 --> 01:28:50,970
Great.

970
01:28:51,230 --> 01:28:51,610
Thank you.

971
01:28:51,690 --> 01:28:51,730
Good luck.

972
01:28:52,030 --> 01:28:52,050
Good luck.

973
01:28:52,310 --> 01:28:52,670
Thank you.

974
01:28:52,950 --> 01:28:52,970
Good luck.

975
01:28:52,970 --> 01:28:53,690
It has a lot.

976
01:28:53,690 --> 01:28:56,890
consumer rate chart services, I just always found

977
01:28:56,890 --> 01:28:58,590
can be to be a joy to work with, work

978
01:28:58,590 --> 01:29:03,330
go through on many interviews for applicants and she's

979
01:29:03,330 --> 01:29:05,910
always prepared and always friendly and always helpful

980
01:29:05,910 --> 01:29:08,550
and it's a great representative for Johnson County,

981
01:29:08,710 --> 01:29:09,450
so I appreciate that.

982
01:29:09,450 --> 01:29:10,250
Thank you very much.

983
01:29:10,530 --> 01:29:11,950
Yeah, thank you.

984
01:29:12,250 --> 01:29:13,710
All right, thank you.

985
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,180
OK, moving on, operational issues

986
01:29:18,180 --> 01:29:19,780
with the Board of Supervisors office.

987
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:20,680
Anybody have anything?

988
01:29:20,820 --> 01:29:22,280
Let's see, you skipped something.

989
01:29:22,500 --> 01:29:23,620
You skipped number nine.

990
01:29:24,060 --> 01:29:24,640
Oh, I'm sorry.

991
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:32,340
sure did. My apologies. Number nine was to discuss county response to COVID-19 pandemic. Can't

992
01:29:32,340 --> 01:29:37,620
anybody have anything there? And, Rod, the reason I said that because I do have a thing. I did

993
01:29:37,620 --> 01:29:42,820
want to report that after I discussion last week about an email received from a constituent

994
01:29:42,820 --> 01:29:49,080
concerned about the sheriff's office, not following the face covering regulation. I reached out

995
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:55,220
the sheriff who responded to my email immediately. He was in the morning for training at the

996
01:29:55,220 --> 01:29:59,980
time of the occurrence and referred me to major dollars all for the details. Steve and I

997
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,680
We talked last Friday. He assured me they were compliant with the regulation. Unfortunately, this was a situation where an employee went out to the lobby area to help this individual and forgot his mask. When confronted, the employee apologized and immediately went back to his work area, retrieved the mask and returned to the lobby to help the constituent. In the sheriff's office employees are wearing masks when in public areas, or during public meetings, for example,

998
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:37,200
interviewing deputies. If they are in their offices, or work areas, and are at least six

999
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:42,520
feet apart, then they have the option of not wearing a mask. Everyone is provided PPE,

1000
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:49,300
and they are encouraged to take home PPE for protection of themselves and family. I want to stress

1001
01:30:49,300 --> 01:30:56,420
that today there have been no COVID-19 positive cases at the jail or the sheriff's office.

1002
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:05,420
Yeah thanks Pat for sharing that actually it's too bad Kami walked out the door because I did

1003
01:31:05,420 --> 01:31:12,200
also find that Kami had come up to me after the last meeting and said for what it was worse

1004
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:19,160
she had just worked on a number of interviews there and had been over at the Sheriff's Office

1005
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:25,500
for a couple of days and had seen what seemed to be to her 100% compliance so that was in line

1006
01:31:25,500 --> 01:31:26,780
of what she had seen as well.

1007
01:31:27,940 --> 01:31:35,880
So, I had a concern about something that was said there because there's nothing in the

1008
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:42,860
public health county or city ordinance that allows you to be inside unless you were in a private

1009
01:31:42,860 --> 01:31:45,940
office, even if you're six feet apart.

1010
01:31:48,440 --> 01:31:53,960
So, if you're in a bulletin situation, it doesn't matter whether you're six feet apart.

1011
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:56,640
You still are required to have a face covering.

1012
01:31:59,870 --> 01:32:02,350
I do not have the regulation in front of us.

1013
01:32:02,370 --> 01:32:04,950
I know practice here at the administration building

1014
01:32:04,950 --> 01:32:10,790
is that if we are in a work area with multiple deaths,

1015
01:32:11,070 --> 01:32:12,870
if people stay six feet apart,

1016
01:32:14,210 --> 01:32:16,990
that they have the option of not wearing the mask.

1017
01:32:17,130 --> 01:32:18,850
And that's what's happening at the sheriff's office.

1018
01:32:18,870 --> 01:32:21,730
That is not the county ordinance or rules.

1019
01:32:22,250 --> 01:32:23,710
I do not have an in front of me.

1020
01:32:37,890 --> 01:32:44,850
Well, we can do that for us.

1021
01:32:48,750 --> 01:32:51,070
Anything else on COVID-19?

1022
01:32:54,270 --> 01:32:59,530
OK, hearing none, moving on, operational issues of the Board of Supervisors office.

1023
01:32:59,530 --> 01:33:01,150
Nothing, Mike.

1024
01:33:03,620 --> 01:33:07,600
Okay. Then the next thing on our agenda is evaluation and goal setting.

1025
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:15,720
This is a possible closed session. Persona I will code section 21.5, parent one, parent I.

1026
01:33:16,300 --> 01:33:21,000
To evaluate the professional competency of an individual who's appointment, hiring, performance

1027
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:25,800
or discharge is being considered. When necessary to prevent needless and irreparable injury

1028
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:30,820
to that individual's reputation. In that individual requests to close session, I do

1029
01:33:30,820 --> 01:33:35,540
have assigned request for closed session for the ambulance director, so I would entertain

1030
01:33:35,540 --> 01:33:37,740
a motion to go into closed session.

1031
01:33:39,510 --> 01:33:40,350
So moved.

1032
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:42,900
Second day, my quarter.

1033
01:33:44,420 --> 01:33:47,540
Move by height and second by quarter, discussion?

1034
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:49,240
Roll call.

1035
01:33:49,780 --> 01:33:49,800
Red.

1036
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:52,800
Red.

1037
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:54,780
Aye.

1038
01:33:55,380 --> 01:33:55,840
Hyden.

1039
01:33:56,220 --> 01:33:56,560
Aye.

1040
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:57,120
Sullivan.

1041
01:33:57,720 --> 01:33:57,900
Aye.

1042
01:33:58,260 --> 01:33:58,460
Porter.

1043
01:33:59,940 --> 01:34:00,160
Aye.

1044
01:34:00,660 --> 01:34:01,360
Green Douglass.

1045
01:34:03,140 --> 01:34:07,660
Okay, motion carries, we're going to take a quick break, break things down, and we will

1046
01:34:07,660 --> 01:34:10,080
be back, and when we return, we'll be in close session.

1047
01:34:12,550 --> 01:34:13,030
It goes there.