[0:07] Johnston City Council: We're good.
[0:09] Johnston City Council: Let's go ahead and call the Johnson City  Council Meeting Number 26 -16 to order. Cindy, roll call, please. Councilmember Cope? Here. Evans? Here. Martin? Here. Reddy?
[0:21] Johnston City Council: Burkhart. Burkhart.
[0:26] Johnston City Council: I want to welcome
[0:28] Johnston City Council: everyone that is in the audience this evening. If you're here for an item that is on the agenda, we would ask you to wait until that item to come up, and for those to come before at that time. If you are here for an item that is not on the agenda.
[0:46] Johnston City Council: The next item on the agenda is the Pledge of Allegiance.
[0:58] Johnston City Council: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God.
[1:08] Johnston City Council: Indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
[1:17] Johnston City Council: Next item on the agenda is the agenda approval. Mike, any other changes to the agenda? That this evening. House any changes?
[1:28] Johnston City Council: Seeing none, do we have a motion to approve the agenda?
[1:33] Johnston City Council: We have a motion and a second. Any discussion?
[1:37] Johnston City Council: Cindy, vote, please. Councilmember Evans? Yes. Martin? Yes. Burkhart? Yes. Cope? Yes. Motion passed.
[1:45] Johnston City Council: Next item on the agenda is public communications. We have no scheduled public communications this evening. Is there anyone in the audience or online who would like to address the Council on an item that is not on the agenda?
[1:59] Johnston City Council: Sir, you want to approach the podium and give us your name and address?
[2:09] Johnston City Council: Thank you for mayor of Council, my name is Jason Zilk. I'm a Johnston resident at 5425 Northwest 90th Street.
[2:17] Johnston City Council: I wanted to bring up the proposed Bucees' development that was recently announced just across the city line of Urbandale, near 100th Street and North Park Drive.
[2:27] Johnston City Council: From the information that has been released, this would be a very significant development of approximately 74,000 square feet, more than $16 million in investment, more than 200 jobs, and a…
[2:39] Johnston City Council: Projected 5 million visitors per year.
[2:42] Johnston City Council: I'm not here tonight to say that Buc-ee's is necessarily good or bad for the area. It can certainly bring economic development to the metro. My concern is that although the property is Urbandale
[2:53] Johnston City Council: Many of the effects of the development of this size may not stop at the Urbandale city limits. I would like to ask for the Johnston staff or the Council has already been in communication with Urbandale regarding this proposal, and if not, I would encourage the City to become involved while the project is still early in the approval process.
[3:11] Johnston City Council: In particular, I hope Johnston will ask to participate in or review a comprehensive traffic impact study that considers Honda Street and Johnston neighborhoods, as well as issues such as lighting, drainage, emergency services, infrastructure costs, and potential impacts on nearby residential properties.
[3:31] Johnston City Council: I understand that the final land use decision belongs to Urbandale, but because the site is so close to Johnson, I believe that it is a situation where cooperation between the two cities, Iowa DOT, and regional transportation plans would benefit everyone.
[3:46] Johnston City Council: A project expected to attract millions of visitors each year should really be studied as a regional project, rather than having the analysis and having the city updates. Thank you.
[4:01] Johnston City Council: And I'll just say that, I personally agree.
[4:05] Johnston City Council: But, yes, we will be having a conversation with everybody now. I don't know if they're necessarily required to have a conversation with us, but we will be… we'll be talking to their mayor and staff.
[4:16] Johnston City Council: Thank you.
[4:18] Johnston City Council: Is there anybody else in the audience that would like to address council on an item that is not on the agenda?
[4:26] Johnston City Council: If not, we'll move on to the next
[4:31] Johnston City Council: agenda item, and that is public hearings, and we have one scheduled public hearing, is this… how do I handle this? So we don't have to do it. So we had one public hearing that's been canceled, so…
[4:49] Johnston City Council: Next item on the agenda is the consent agenda.
[4:53] Johnston City Council: Do we have a motion to approve the consent agenda. So, we have a motion and a second. Any discussion?
[5:01] Johnston City Council: Senator, please? Councilmember Martin? Yes. Burkhart? Yes. Cope? Yes. Evans? Yes.
[5:08] Johnston City Council: Motion passed. I would just bring to the Council's attention, there are a number of…
[5:12] Johnston City Council: reports
[5:14] Johnston City Council: on various topics.
[5:21] Johnston City Council: The next item on the agenda is the non-consent agenda, item 7A, consider second reading of ordinance Number 1163, amending Chapter 69.13 of the code, to modify parking along Northwest 62nd Avenue during school drop-off and pickup hours.
[5:49] Johnston City Council: Good evening. No comments have been received to date. Staff has worked with communications along with the Johnston School District to create this, educational flyer, to help, educate, folks with the changes in the current lawsuit.
[6:06] Johnston City Council: How to navigate through the on street parking through the queuing.
[6:10] Johnston City Council: We have,
[6:13] Johnston City Council: plan to push that out electronic, or distribute electronically, over to Lawson. They were going to, distribute that to their parents, prior to school starting, and we would push that out on our social media page on our, in our website project page.
[6:29] Johnston City Council: We did have some discussion at the last meeting about maybe creating some flexible language to address early outs. The…
[6:38] Johnston City Council: early out, flexibility. We had that discussion, and we believe that's why it was scheduled for 8 to 4, in the previous.
[6:49] Johnston City Council: there's really not a way to create that flexibility in that language that we looked at. I believe that we get folks understanding that during drop-off and payoff times.
[7:01] Johnston City Council: we may limit those issues that we have on the road. The only other option would be just to list it, no parking, 8 to 4, and I don't think we want to…
[7:16] Johnston City Council: Be happy to answer any questions.
[7:22] Johnston City Council: Anyone else have any questions for Matt?
[7:27] Johnston City Council: I'm fine with not addressing You already have an issue, as long as it doesn't become an enforcement issue.
[7:33] Johnston City Council: Because I presume that might be the challenge, right? You have a specific hour time in there, and now we're enforcing it differently than the hour time, just listed.
[7:43] Johnston City Council: But if it doesn't become a problem, then it doesn't become a problem, I suspect it.
[7:49] Johnston City Council: Yeah, that's funny.
[7:51] Johnston City Council: So I'm not trying to create a problem and say that if it works out and there's not an issue, great. But I think we just… I don't want it to become a force of an issue, which it could potentially be.
[8:02] Johnston City Council: Yeah, I agree. I would like to monitor that and see if we have… that does create any issues. Otherwise, we may have enforcement issues, on the other hand, if we're no parking for 8 to 4 and folks are parking in that. Go back to the 8 to 4. I'm just trying to figure out…
[8:20] Johnston City Council: how you deal with the times when you have early dismissal because of snow, or whatever, and so then you're not in those exact limits of your stuff.
[8:31] Johnston City Council: Any other questions for Matt?
[8:34] Johnston City Council: Now, does this one more need to… An officer?
[8:39] Johnston City Council: When the time, yeah, when the time's appropriate to wait for a green account.
[8:46] Johnston City Council: If there are no other questions from that, I would ask if we have a motion to approve second Meeting Board Number 964.
[8:55] Johnston City Council: I'm listening.
[8:56] Johnston City Council: Second. A motion and a second? Discussion?
[9:00] Johnston City Council: City vote, please? Councilmember Burkhardt? Yes. Cope? Yes. Evans? Yes. Martin? Yes.
[9:08] Johnston City Council: Do we have a motion to waive?
[9:11] Johnston City Council: through reading and put out from public shaman.
[9:15] Johnston City Council: Second?
[9:16] Johnston City Council: We have a motion and a second discussion? Singapore, please. Councilmember Cope? Yes. Evans? Yes. Martin? Yes. Burkhart? Yes.
[9:24] Johnston City Council: Once you pass.
[9:26] Johnston City Council: Moving on to 7C, consider approval of resolution number 26-147, approving the site plans for the 121 Business Park.
[9:37] Johnston City Council: Would it be coming on?
[9:39] Johnston City Council: I hope so, I bought 7B.
[9:42] Johnston City Council: Consider Second Meeting of Ordinance Number 1164, amending Chapter 63.04 of the City Code to revise the speed regulations on Northwest 100 and Northwest 107th Streets.
[9:57] Johnston City Council: Yes, at our previous, at our first reading, we passed the first reading as, there was some discussion about giving more, public input.
[10:09] Johnston City Council: Staff has not received any public comment at this time, but my understanding is Council has received some public comment about this free event as well. So, at our August 3rd meeting, we did start working with our communications team designing now postcards.
[10:26] Johnston City Council: On that survey topic. They did go out on Friday, the 14th, so we've had some folks that received them on Saturday, some that received them today.
[10:37] Johnston City Council: On the map they… that we sent out, we did,
[10:43] Johnston City Council: Which is kind of hard to read, but you can see the yellow on the, left side of the screen there is 107, and right heading through the center of that yellow, would be 100th Street.
[10:55] Johnston City Council: So, we did, take the roadways off for those folks that do utilize, 100 and 107, maybe not just the folks that live right along the roadway.
[11:05] Johnston City Council: We did get results back, or we got preliminary results back. We had roughly 199 folks that have responded to that over the weekend and today, and we had about, 163 folks that said no, don't.
[11:22] Johnston City Council: Lower the speed limit, and you had roughly, 63 folks that say, yes, please lower the speed limit.
[11:28] Johnston City Council: So, roughly 82% and 18%.
[11:31] Johnston City Council: Split.
[11:40] Johnston City Council: be happy to answer any questions. Let me ask some of the people that meeting at the postcard until today.
[11:46] Johnston City Council: Correct.
[11:48] Johnston City Council: Some of those may not have been… they didn't get their mail over the weekend, or they may have gotten delivered, yesterday. These are very preliminary results. We can send it out.
[11:56] Johnston City Council: To over 700 residents, so we still have results that will be coming in. And we would likely… should have all those out.
[12:05] Johnston City Council: Most of those are whatever we're gonna be seen by the time.
[12:09] Johnston City Council: And I asked you this question earlier, Matt, and maybe we don't have an answer to it yet, maybe I don't know. Is there a way to sort the responses so that we know…
[12:20] Johnston City Council: So that we can see…
[12:23] Johnston City Council: How the people who actually live along those roads, and who would be most directly impacted because of their driveways.
[12:30] Johnston City Council: read out into those roads. Impact from a safety perspective.
[12:37] Johnston City Council: Can we pull those out separately from those that just travel the road to get to work, get to school, or whatever it might be?
[12:45] Johnston City Council: Maybe they weren't separated by, street address, so that we can… we didn't want to limit it, because you may have multiple drivers, you know, husband and wife, at the same address, so it is being tracked by their IP address that they submit that on.
[13:00] Johnston City Council: We did look at that. They haven't had my IP address flood.
[13:05] Johnston City Council: The, survey had, The match we've had are 3 votes for 1 IP address, or one computer.
[13:13] Johnston City Council: Okay.
[13:14] Johnston City Council: So, there isn't a way for us to separate those.
[13:19] Johnston City Council: Because it isn't my address, it's why I'm… it isn't mine.
[13:23] Johnston City Council: Right.
[13:25] Johnston City Council: Well, as I shared with you earlier, obviously, it seems to me it makes kind of sense that the perspective of people that live right along the road will view it differently than the people who just travel it.
[13:36] Johnston City Council: Correct. And, you know, those that just are using the road to get to work or get to school.
[13:41] Johnston City Council: They may, you know, they may…
[13:45] Johnston City Council: They may prefer for it to be a higher speed limit.
[13:50] Johnston City Council: And staff's recommendation was still below the speed limit. The new trailer that was put out there with two and a half crossings. We've had requests for crossings on 107.
[14:00] Johnston City Council: That we'll still have to have conversations about moving solos. We're gonna have new crossings across that road, so…
[14:08] Johnston City Council: Sash recommendations to all of this.
[14:14] Johnston City Council: Other questions from that?
[14:20] Johnston City Council: Do we have a motion to approve the second reading of Ordinance CB1164? So moved.
[14:25] Johnston City Council: Second. We have a motion and a second. Any vote, please? Councilmember Evans? Yes. Martin? Yes. Burkhart? No. Cope? Yes. Motion passed.
[14:36] Johnston City Council: Item 7C, consider approval of resolution number 26-147.
[14:42] Johnston City Council: Approving of site plans for 141 Business Park.
[14:59] Johnston City Council: 141 Business Park LLC submitted the following site plan for development of three office slash environmental buildings for more than 110,000 population square feet. The property was annexed into the city in August of 2018. It is suspectedly zoned by a cultural reserve.
[15:16] Johnston City Council: district. It was then rezoned to the IC Industrial Commerce
[15:20] Johnston City Council: The zoning District, which became our EQ General Employment District in June of 2022. The funding plot for 141 Business for our Plot 1 was approved in February of 2026.
[15:31] Johnston City Council: The property is on E2, it has to meet the following, both regulations A30, but front setbacks, a 10 feet side yard setback, 35 foot, rear yard setback, minimum lot area of 20,000 square feet, and a minimum lock weight of 100. The overall site implies, with the both regulations, as well as each individual, proposed lot.
[15:54] Johnston City Council: The development area does not include any existing trees exceeding a 6-inch caliber diameter that require preservation. The total property is
[16:02] Johnston City Council: 450,290 square feet, with a requirement to dedicate 25%, or 112,572. The open space, the post section exceeds that requirement by providing 48%, or 262,862.
[16:18] Johnston City Council: Sorry if you don't miss.
[16:20] Johnston City Council: The property's probably about 113 trees and 113 shrubs. It is closing 122 trees and 244 shrubs. The overall site compliance, as well as the region, as well as the open space.
[16:35] Johnston City Council: The… there is, 22 landscape buffer is generally required along the entire enrollment property line, which the… this.
[16:44] Johnston City Council: side right here. Pursuant to Table 182.2, as a search property is zoned E2, and the property to the north is zoned C3. However, the Johnston Code of Ordinances states that buffers shall not be required of a property adjacent to a utility corridor. The search property is adjacent to a utility corridor along the northern property line of 54 caps.
[17:06] Johnston City Council: Staff does note that one of the issues of approval that we have is waiver of that, renting for staff work.
[17:19] Johnston City Council: So, we'll be doing that.
[17:21] Johnston City Council: That is the main reason for that.
[17:22] Johnston City Council: The site will be accessed via Northwest Huntington County Court. Northwest Huntington Court currently consisted of rural crossroad, rural cross-section Roadway, public improvement plans and associated legal agreements for those park improvements, are currently under review by city staff.
[17:40] Johnston City Council: approval of public improvement plans and Meeting agreements will be required prior to the approval of construction planning.
[17:47] Johnston City Council: 130 parking spaces are required for the overall development, 142 are proposed. I have them broken down by the office and the warehouse components that we have been assigned for
[17:59] Johnston City Council: Councilmember Sassini.
[18:00] Johnston City Council: Electronic vehicle charging, so 1% of parking spaces that equates to 1 EV space. Bicycle parking will be provided. The detailed links to the site will be served by existing city water and sanitary systems, located on the east of Northwest 410 Court. All lines and mates located within the parking lot.
[18:20] Johnston City Council: The public has been reviewed needs all fire protection requirements. A roundup will be collected by any, opposed to pension reason as on block A.
[18:31] Johnston City Council: And so she probably was not within any sport collections.
[18:37] Johnston City Council: as the property is zoned, the geopassing be following architectural requirements, which is at least 30% Class A, no more than 70% Class B, and no more than 25% Class C.
[18:50] Johnston City Council: that it ultimately meets all architecture requirements. Lots 1 and 2 are going to A and B have 100% Class B on the western facade. That is because the, as noted in 185.03 of the Johnston ordinances in this.
[19:08] Johnston City Council: That office on space intervisible on public street in any districts are exempt from the architectural regulations.
[19:14] Johnston City Council: Oh.
[19:16] Johnston City Council: If I can answer any questions you may have, contact me about it. Carl some questions?
[19:23] Johnston City Council: Mayor, I have two. What is happening for the road there? Is it 110? Yeah, it's 110th. There's no landscaping shown along it, there is no sidewalk along there.
[19:38] Johnston City Council: There might have been a plan to fill the trail. What is… what is the future landscape for that road? The future landscape for the road is not in the comp plan as a… requiring street trees in that road, so…
[19:51] Johnston City Council: what we have, what the next meeting is, is there. That can change the program, how many requirements you choose is for
[19:59] Johnston City Council: which is not Chevrolet
[20:03] Johnston City Council: And there's… is there a trail along there? A closed trail? The construction plans for our sale… still in process. I don't have time exactly about headquarters. But it's not part of the development to build this trail and put this landscape…
[20:18] Johnston City Council: Great. The construction of the road is part, but not part of the development.
[20:24] Johnston City Council: As currently designed? Yes.
[20:27] Johnston City Council: The interior sidewalk circulation, there's quite a few places where they cross through the parking lot. I didn't see any sidewalk details. Are we, asking for ABA ramps? That is something that we have, we've discussed and have outlined.
[20:50] Johnston City Council: I see that the landscape, architect is here. I was wondering if I could address some questions to him.
[20:57] Johnston City Council: Do you need anything specific to pull up? No, this'll be good.
[21:08] Johnston City Council: Good evening, Mark Burke, Civil Engineering Consultants representing 141 Business Park LLC.
[21:16] Johnston City Council: She represented at 1.41 Business Park, LLC.
[21:19] Johnston City Council: To answer one of your first questions on that, there… in regards to landscaping along a public street, there is a 16-inch gassing that runs parallel with 110th park that has a 50-foot.
[21:37] Johnston City Council: 50, but no building easement. So, we have tried to show, I should say, 30 feet, plus 30 feet on each side of the easement that you don't want trees, but we have sunk a few trees here and there, within the easement area, so…
[21:52] Johnston City Council: Could you just maybe show where… is these now on the north side or the south side?
[21:59] Johnston City Council: I'm a landscaping phone here, but… Well, Jacob can come, so…
[22:07] Johnston City Council: Here's just the physical one of the rest.
[22:11] Johnston City Council: Pretty great.
[22:13] Johnston City Council: Can you pull up the landscape plan?
[22:25] Johnston City Council: Take a break.
[22:30] Johnston City Council: Yep.
[22:35] Johnston City Council: Yeah, so the yellow dash, orange dash line, is the 21… Yes.
[22:41] Johnston City Council: So, you've got the right-of-way line, you've got the easement line in here.
[22:48] Johnston City Council: Leaves with mine in here, We've got a 30-foot requirement for…
[22:55] Johnston City Council: For a business of planting trees away from…
[22:59] Johnston City Council: The aspect itself relates, and they want to use it.
[23:03] Johnston City Council: So, with all that, all those requirements within G, you know, we try to keep…
[23:09] Johnston City Council: 90s away from the easement as much as possible, those trucks, they don't have a problem with trucks.
[23:21] Johnston City Council: Did you have some?
[23:23] Johnston City Council: It does not show… the stash line here, I believe.
[23:30] Johnston City Council: you can put recreation rail.
[23:35] Johnston City Council: It's like the 100-foot mark, right?
[23:37] Johnston City Council: Did you also have restrictions on the west side of the property, in terms of a gas line, utility, etc, in terms of landscape. Can you show the west side of the property?
[23:53] Johnston City Council: So, there, there are no reasons to uncover the property alone here. This is the, basically the off-ramp here at 141, and that's on the property here, or further up, I guess.
[24:05] Johnston City Council: the partial in here. So basically, we are shortened by a number of overstory plantings, some ornamental plantings,
[24:14] Johnston City Council: Connabirds, roots, conifers and shrubs.
[24:17] Johnston City Council: Moreover, along the way.
[24:21] Johnston City Council: And so my only comments to the developer would be that this is a very important new
[24:30] Johnston City Council: development for the City of Johnston. It's going to be seen by hundreds of thousands of people weekly.
[24:37] Johnston City Council: Considering that this is one of the busiest corridors that, we have locally, the 141, and, I'm just saying to you that…
[24:48] Johnston City Council: I looked at the number of trees that were required, and the number of trees we got, and you are over the number, but I kind of wanted to see a little bit more.
[24:59] Johnston City Council: you know, more landscapes, more trees. I actually don't really care as much about shrubbery, and also large… you must not like landscapers, because you've got, like, 65 crimson cookies barbary on land.
[25:13] Johnston City Council: I don't know if you've ever… have you ever picked trash out of the barberry shop? It's not wrong. There you go. There you go.
[25:25] Johnston City Council: And also, chokecherry, while they are native, the birds and the deer, or not, the rabbits and deer will eat them to the ground before they ever get in here. So I'm just saying to you, a few extra trees.
[25:38] Johnston City Council: A little extra landscaping would be appreciated. I guess I'll look to our own city to deal with the landscaping around the trail when that's…
[25:49] Johnston City Council: That's great.
[25:56] Johnston City Council: Mark Boppinset, 1003 Northwest Ridge Road, Anthony, 141 Business Park. I will.
[26:06] Johnston City Council: Visit the bar, do less drugs.
[26:09] Johnston City Council: I 100% agree with you. They're a maintenance nightmare that no one wants to take care of once it's up.
[26:21] Johnston City Council: Trees are much easier, much more aesthetically poisoned.
[26:26] Johnston City Council: I get… you get more bang for the buck with some trees. And I do find out there's a trail, an 8-foot trail around the water area. That will be halfway trees. You'll add some more trees than what is your… that would be great. Because I know that on the west side, there's another gas line, so I hope it's something else that you have thought of.
[26:45] Johnston City Council: We're… we're off of that gas.
[26:48] Johnston City Council: A little bit, yeah. And there's, like, a thousand-foot, 1,100-foot walking trail around here.
[26:56] Johnston City Council: And I appreciated that you were putting that in there for the people that work there, and to get out, and also, hopefully, we'll have some bike traffic. Eventually, we're trying to get a trail permit.
[27:09] Johnston City Council: the Johnston area up to this area, I'm not sure where that'll be, but I appreciate all of that, so thank you. Yeah. And, and I, I will tell everybody that Mark never classed together. I've had fun with picking up.
[27:26] Johnston City Council: Thank you, brother.
[27:29] Johnston City Council: Any other questions? Mayor, I do have a follow-up. I just need some clarification from Jacob, if possible. Can you give explanation again as to…
[27:42] Johnston City Council: why they're prescribing a 100% class
[27:49] Johnston City Council: B, is that what I heard, on the west side, and why that would be wrong. So, Chapter 185… Chapter 185.0 for B, outlines when the architecture standards are,
[28:08] Johnston City Council: There are 5. The… it also outlines the exceptions. One of those exceptions outlined 185.03.C, which is all facades facing or visible from a public street into the district.
[28:21] Johnston City Council: That is why. So building C would be the status would be used on the Iowa 141.
[28:29] Johnston City Council: And then, blocks 1 and 2 are going to say A and B would not be visible while not.
[28:37] Johnston City Council: Is the off-ramp not considered a public street?
[28:42] Johnston City Council: You want to be able to see it from… you want to be able to see the rears of buildings that you need.
[28:48] Johnston City Council: I guess I'm failing to see that I wouldn't be able to see the beam.
[28:59] Johnston City Council: In that… Through that JP waterway.
[29:04] Johnston City Council: I can answer the question why it's precast instead of…
[29:08] Johnston City Council: Brick is because there are loading docks, and you have to backfill the loading docks, or because it's waterfall.
[29:16] Johnston City Council: You're…
[29:17] Johnston City Council: Parliament. You have to backfill that, you have to have a structure that's physically going to withstand that pressure.
[29:25] Johnston City Council: I'm happy.
[29:27] Johnston City Council: that boulder.
[29:30] Johnston City Council: Do you think… I don't know, I can't picture enough of the elevation there, but with a outlot that is a pond.
[29:39] Johnston City Council: it looks like I'd be able to see most of the backside of me. That's why we're going to heavily treat walking through it.
[29:50] Johnston City Council: to… to obscure that value side. Yes.
[29:56] Johnston City Council: You have to have a structure that physically can withstand the pressure Having that wall there.
[30:05] Johnston City Council: I know that, you know, we've yet to finalize a lot of the fine print with regard to development agreements and potential incentives, and property tax bills haven't helped any of us move that forward to the level we wanted, but I know when the first conversations came forward and discussions happened at the Economic Development Ad Hoc Committee, and at different points.
[30:28] Johnston City Council: one of the comments made was what was shared again, or reminded by Councilmember Martin tonight, was how important this parcel is to be an area, and we want that to be good-looking from all sides.
[30:43] Johnston City Council: And that's where I guess I'm getting hung up from the standpoint of… of…
[30:49] Johnston City Council: waiting for trees to develop to obscure a portion of that, overlooking, or to some extent, I don't agree that this won't be visible from
[30:59] Johnston City Council: from a public roadway, and therefore doesn't need to apply that same level of materials. And so, to some extent, I don't know if there's other provisions that should be asked for here other than staff just agreeing that that's the case. An offering, to me, is still a public roadway.
[31:25] Johnston City Council: I certainly understand the architectural and, moreover, engineering requirements to be able to put the type of purpose that's there. It's a matter of making sure that
[31:37] Johnston City Council: And we have that obscured from the start.
[31:42] Johnston City Council: or… We have a quality material that's required on all the sides that are required.
[31:50] Johnston City Council: This is a… So there's no Class A material that would… work. Framing.
[31:58] Johnston City Council: The Class A material that we're using on the other three sides is brick.
[32:03] Johnston City Council: Which takes a wall to adhere the brick to.
[32:08] Johnston City Council: And there's nothing that you can put 4 foot of sand on against this.
[32:12] Johnston City Council: I would be afraid as hell that that wall would blow out, it would…
[32:18] Johnston City Council: I mean, I… that would just be a nightmare. And not to argue with you, but that's a highway, state highway.
[32:27] Johnston City Council: It's not a public city street.
[32:32] Johnston City Council: I'd ask our legal counsel… Do our ordinances apply to state highways?
[32:42] Johnston City Council: I mean, I don't know that there's a different definition of street in the city code, but, I mean, a street… under Iowa law, a highway is a street, a road is a… it's all the same form.
[32:54] Johnston City Council: And I think part of this goes to the discussion.
[32:57] Johnston City Council: that Councilman Bernard kind of highlighted is… You sort of have…
[33:03] Johnston City Council: kind of building standards that we require in code, and this is… and you're asking, and I think you're making a very reasonable argument for a lower standard.
[33:14] Johnston City Council: But you're also asking for a tip instead that's rather robust.
[33:20] Johnston City Council: 10 years, 75%. That's not on the discussion today, but that's… and I know… and I realize that that's all been part of the discussion. So I think for us.
[33:29] Johnston City Council: That's the… For us, if we're gonna make it provide a TIF incentive.
[33:34] Johnston City Council: That sort of helps reduce your property tax for…
[33:38] Johnston City Council: One of the, sort of, benefits from a city standpoint is we're getting a building that we really think needs
[33:45] Johnston City Council: The precast will be painted to match brick.
[33:53] Johnston City Council: Okay. I mean, as far as I know, we could put a brick texture on it, but it can't be brick and…
[34:01] Johnston City Council: metal, it used that. Physically, it won't… it won't stand up to what needs to happen. It has to be absurd.
[34:09] Johnston City Council: strength, quality. Yeah, and I think it's got… I think your argument there, you know way more about that than I do, so I'm certainly willing to accept that argument. But I think the trade-off is obviously from the standpoint of
[34:23] Johnston City Council: You're also asking for a free significant incentive from the city, and we want to make sure we're
[34:30] Johnston City Council: If we're going to provide that incentive, we're getting the best possible-looking building. I don't care if it's public street or not. That's irrelevant to me. I'm not getting into some legal argument about whether… Well, I can look in, but it's a street that I can always get to have a brick pattern on the previous.
[34:48] Johnston City Council: Yeah, I think, and again, that might be probably part of the discussion that they mess around, especially as part of your tip mask.
[34:53] Johnston City Council: Because I don't know that that's ever gone through the council yet, or where that is in the process, so… I don't think you can tell the difference between…
[35:03] Johnston City Council: A precast that has a great look to it, and…
[35:09] Johnston City Council: Yeah, and so again, I think… I think we're certainly trying to make sure that we're being fair.
[35:16] Johnston City Council: But we're also… as a council member, we're taking property… when we provide an ascendant, we're providing you…
[35:25] Johnston City Council: a reduction in your property tax. You're getting the rebate sensitive, right? And I think we want to make sure that
[35:32] Johnston City Council: we're getting the maximum benefit out of that, and I think that's what the hell into that.
[35:38] Johnston City Council: So the trade-off for us is obviously usually the building materials.
[35:43] Johnston City Council: Mark, I appreciate you being creative about it, so… Say what your options are, and then…
[35:50] Johnston City Council: But, suggest this, yes.
[35:57] Johnston City Council: Council on the other motions?
[35:59] Johnston City Council: I guess I would agree, too, with that. I appreciate that approach as well.
[36:05] Johnston City Council: Any other questions, Council?
[36:09] Johnston City Council: If not, do we have a motion to approve resolution number 26-147. I have a motion and a second. Further discussion? I have a comment.
[36:20] Johnston City Council: I just wanted to, thank Councilman Burkhart and
[36:24] Johnston City Council: and hope for their thoughtful comments on this, and I do think that as we… as our council works together, which we… I think we do really well, the pointing out that the… all sides of the buildings and… and a quality development is something that we have
[36:44] Johnston City Council: fixed our eye on several times, and I'm hoping that staff will hear what we have to say about
[36:53] Johnston City Council: Looking a little harder at some of these developments, and…
[36:58] Johnston City Council: I don't think that what we're asking for is huge, and as you say, there's tips involved here. We're going to be involved in here, so I appreciate both of your comments, and I appreciate where this council is moving a little bit more, a little bit more intentional, and looking at things a little closer.
[37:17] Johnston City Council: Appreciate it.
[37:21] Johnston City Council: Any other further… any… any other further discussion?
[37:28] Johnston City Council: If not, stand up, please. Councilmember Martin? Yes. Burkhardt? Yes. Cope? Yes. Evans? Yes.
[37:35] Johnston City Council: Item 70, consider approval fees in the amount of $1,479,216.35. This is approval from second.
[37:46] Johnston City Council: Do you have a motion or a second? Discussion?
[37:49] Johnston City Council: City Boys? Councilmember Burkhart? Yes. Cope? Yes. Evans? Yes. Martin? Yes.
[37:56] Johnston City Council: We'll come out here.
[37:58] Johnston City Council: He's working for me, so… I'm pausing, saying, okay, right now.
[38:13] Johnston City Council: He's plugging in his… sticking yours out, plugging his in.
[38:17] Johnston City Council: We'll pause for a sec.
[38:20] Johnston City Council: Do you need to come up here, or do you have a… put up here, I'm sorry.
[38:26] Johnston City Council: Are you running the ring? Yep.
[38:28] Johnston City Council: Thank you.
[38:54] Johnston City Council: Okay, I just wanted to give you an update, a new update on the park. I think I sent something to you guys in July via email with some stuff. The contractor's on site, so the end is almost here.
[39:08] Johnston City Council: Just to kind of recap, we had some issues in the spring, a little rain, and, we knew that the area was a wetland, just didn't really know how bad it was until we kind of cleared up some of the area. We got Snyder and TK Concrete to come up with a plan, and then TK had to do some other projects, based on some other projects around town, but they started out last week, and…
[39:33] Johnston City Council: I bring in extra filters.
[39:35] Johnston City Council: We have redone where the little dog area is, is now right here where this dirt pile is, so you're gonna come up in the sidewalk, and it'll be on your right, instead of on your left.
[39:46] Johnston City Council: And…
[39:51] Johnston City Council: The TK countries are supposed to be done by September 4th, weather permitting. They're working today, which is nice to see. So, once they get in and they approve the project, then, park staff will go in and see this area, hopefully we can get, some good growth. I have a couple other pictures I was going to show of the,
[40:14] Johnston City Council: Can I have lunch?
[40:17] Johnston City Council: So, as you know, we accepted that project, and came in a couple weeks after that. I think this is about 3 weeks ago, and we're already getting some good growth in there. So… so we're hopeful that we can get some good grass established. We might be able to go in sooner. Once they get disturbed in, we can probably start seeing some of it now, as long as they're not even going to disturb it, and infecting people should stay around and outside of that. So,
[40:41] Johnston City Council: As soon as we get grants established and let dogs in there, we will. Our plan was that if people signed up for a 2027 dogwork pass, they could have the rest of 26 kind of as a freebie, to come check it out and enjoy.
[40:56] Johnston City Council: So we're hoping that we do have a grand opening dog, ribbon cutting, sometime in October.
[41:05] Johnston City Council: True good morning.
[41:07] Johnston City Council: No, my questions?
[41:09] Johnston City Council: So,
[41:12] Johnston City Council: One question I've got, and so I'm looking at one of the attachments, Jeff, is this dog park wetland delineation.
[41:21] Johnston City Council: Fat.
[41:25] Johnston City Council: And you're in a different item.
[41:27] Johnston City Council: outside of the miracle.
[41:35] Johnston City Council: So, you've got highlighted here are the various wetlands, and the wetland number one…
[41:43] Johnston City Council: appears to be the area that has been a problem area of the wet spot. Yes. That's where everything flows to. So, wetland 2 and 3 are smaller, and they flow 2, 1, and that's where the water usually stays, and that's outside of the fence.
[42:02] Johnston City Council: So, my question is, so I sort of think about wetland.
[42:07] Johnston City Council: or a wet spot, is how do you keep the water once it's kind of in an area? Like, typically, we have, like, a detention pond, right? And that, it's got… it's like a pump. It's deep, it has some depth to it, and it helps dire size, or whatever, and it keeps the water there.
[42:25] Johnston City Council: So…
[42:27] Johnston City Council: How do we… how do we ensure… because it doesn't appear that we're creating an actual time here. This appears to be more of, like, an overflow situation.
[42:39] Johnston City Council: Yes. Which so much concerns me as you take a situation where you get heavy rain, right? You get 3-4 inches of rain over a period, or it's a period of heavy rains, and that all the wetlands stay west.
[42:56] Johnston City Council: And we're not… and then we have… then it gets hard to manage. Like, you can't get in there to mow, you can't get in… so I'm concerned…
[43:06] Johnston City Council: That we're not… We don't really manage the water.
[43:12] Johnston City Council: So, what the board are doing right now is they're basically getting rid of Wetland 2 and most of 3 by pushing everything to 1. And then the sidewalk is sort of acting like a berm that should keep everything to that northeast corner of the park. So, I guess that's… so…
[43:31] Johnston City Council: Which of these renderings that were attached?
[43:36] Johnston City Council: reflects.
[43:37] Johnston City Council: Dave.
[43:39] Johnston City Council: What are these renderings coming?
[43:42] Johnston City Council: reflect the hearing.
[43:44] Johnston City Council: Because it would be helpful if we had, like, a rendering and a wet labs.
[43:48] Johnston City Council: Combined in one.
[43:53] Johnston City Council: This is what I sent to you guys, earlier, and if you look at this area where my cursor's moving, that's the wetland area one.
[44:05] Johnston City Council: So here's the sidewalk. The small dog area was gonna be on this side of the park, which is wet. It's now moved into… this area's being all raised up.
[44:18] Johnston City Council: From the parking lot all the way to wherever the entrance is going to be. So all this is going to slope and push everything to Wetland 1.
[44:34] Johnston City Council: And so this, this drawing here, Reflects, kind of, the revised…
[44:41] Johnston City Council: The grading and the cleansing. The grading. Go ahead. Correct me if I'm wrong, Jeff, is the…
[44:48] Johnston City Council: the red area, is that where the additional grading is occurring in? Yes.
[44:53] Johnston City Council: Is it really sloping from that northwest corner to the south of the east, around the river, back up to the Wetland 1, is that what's proposed? Yes.
[45:09] Johnston City Council: So, could you,
[45:11] Johnston City Council: So it's sloping… the water will flow from where to where? West to east. So everything… everything from… everything from Casey's, and Little League, and then there is an outlet over here in the corner of the park, everything pretty much goes to the low area, which is wetland water.
[45:36] Johnston City Council: And so, what you're saying is that this sidewalk that kind of comes in here, sort of.
[45:42] Johnston City Council: Starts from the west and then turns to… So, you know, east.
[45:48] Johnston City Council: will act as a firm to keep the water in that spot. Yes. And that will then… so the area that is
[45:55] Johnston City Council: I guess the larger dog.
[46:00] Johnston City Council: area, and that should stay dry, because it's got some filter in there. Sure. There is probably a little bit of air that we didn't want to touch, in here. There's a little strip. It usually drains faster than some of the other ones do. And that's the location where we're thinking about putting our rainbow bridge, the Eagle Sound is building, so you would have access to get through that
[46:23] Johnston City Council: If there's less gaining water at the time. So, if it rained today, it might be a little wet tomorrow, and you can still get across that area.
[46:31] Johnston City Council: by using this bridge. Yeah, yeah.
[46:50] Johnston City Council: No, I think I did. Mayor Mann. There's an attachment that does depict to the sidewalk and the current parking, as well as an extension of the trail that has 3 different highlighter colors on it. Can you explain what those designations mean? Yeah, so that was the…
[47:13] Johnston City Council: email that I sent you guys, before I kind of had these drawings, was that the blue spot was kind of where the red areas were, so we were going to build up the green area to push everything to the purple area.
[47:34] Johnston City Council: My, my only other comment on, on…
[47:37] Johnston City Council: this project, or on the kayak, I appreciate the fact that you're kind of giving them a try before they, well, after they bought it, 2026 access, is the fact that I really just want to see
[47:52] Johnston City Council: that grass takeoff as much as possible. And I cringe a little bit in even indicating that that's going to be open during usable months of this year yet.
[48:04] Johnston City Council: When in fact, I really hope that we can just get that grass to take off.
[48:08] Johnston City Council: So that it's a 2027 usable feature.
[48:17] Johnston City Council: I also do have some questions regarding a communication we received.
[48:21] Johnston City Council: To our dais tonight.
[48:23] Johnston City Council: If… but I want to make sure that other council members get their questions answered regarding this project.
[48:30] Johnston City Council: Any other questions for Jeff? Randy?
[48:36] Johnston City Council: Thank you, Jeff. Oh, wait, I guess we have one. I do, I do have more questions.
[48:42] Johnston City Council: Gotcha. Did you get an email from, or a letter and some photos from Carolyn Christensen? Yep, and I called her back this morning. We've taken care of the,
[48:56] Johnston City Council: planter, taking the trees and weeds out of it. The reason why we, didn't mow in that area along the plume was because the last time we mowed, it was so wet that we almost slid into the plume as we were mowing.
[49:11] Johnston City Council: We usually mow up to the plume, but this last time we were able to, so that's the cause of that, and we're gonna be out there this week taking care of that. And then this fall, when we go to trim out a lot of our trees, and we're gonna take care of the pine trees.
[49:25] Johnston City Council: Thank you very much. Thanks for addressing that with her, and then also, giving us that.
[49:29] Johnston City Council: That's always appreciated.
[49:31] Johnston City Council: We're not done with it yet. So, the Oxborough Trail.
[49:39] Johnston City Council: I noticed that, as I forwarded to you and Mike did today, a green, a Facebook post on the Green Meadows West page. Some frustration that folks have expressed because…
[49:52] Johnston City Council: Well, the trail is awesome, and it's beautiful. The bill dirt on the edges of the trail is not gonna happen, and it's been several weeks. And so, if you're on the trail, and you would somehow fall off the trail, it's… I don't think you'd feel particularly safe. So I noticed today, you put signs on closing the trail.
[50:12] Johnston City Council: The contractor should have had barricades up until the trail was usable, but I think that they got pushed off or moved, during the process, and they, they got pulled out to go do a job, and closed them down, but we were supposed to be back last week working on it, and they know the weather, they weren't able to last, he emailed me back, and they were gonna try and get that finished this week.
[50:34] Johnston City Council: Okay, so you're, you're open.
[50:36] Johnston City Council: would be that this week, that they would be working on getting that filter. Yes. And that would allow the trailer.
[50:45] Johnston City Council: Yes. And then we're going to start to carry out the section up to King's Row, and getting that all finished. Okay.
[50:53] Johnston City Council: But I, you know, that's… it's been a really nice project, and I think it's been great because we've been able to do more footage of the trail.
[51:01] Johnston City Council: than you originally thought, because the bids came in. Yeah, that's… I mean, our bid was half price almost estimated, so when a lot of us had those two sections in the area. So that's… that's awesome, but the lack of the lawn delay and the filter has been sort of frustrating. Yes. And I think, and frankly, a safety list, that we…
[51:22] Johnston City Council: I think didn't handle as well as we probably should have.
[51:25] Johnston City Council: Making sure that Sure.
[51:27] Johnston City Council: than access. And I think this is one of the issues I've got, or a little concerned I've got, is that we're,
[51:35] Johnston City Council: Allowing, kind of, public access to
[51:39] Johnston City Council: before we release them, and how we handle that, I think we really need to think about that.
[51:45] Johnston City Council: And I think that's… that was true of the kayak launch, where you had public access to it.
[51:51] Johnston City Council: But with no real communication to the residents that, hey, this… we're not… this hasn't been released, and… so the citizens don't have… they don't know what's going on.
[52:01] Johnston City Council: True… the same is true of the dog. And I think the same is true with this trailer as well. So I do think we need to become a policy, or an app, or… it's not a policy issue, or it's just a…
[52:15] Johnston City Council: implementation, or accountability, or whatever it is, I think we need to work on making sure that we're, you know, appropriately monitoring those contractors to… if the project isn't completed, then they shouldn't have been, you know, having public access to it.
[52:35] Johnston City Council: We need, based on approval.
[52:38] Johnston City Council: Appreciate you some efforts.
[52:41] Johnston City Council: Jeff, since Councilman Cope burned up that project, I did walk it today, just out of curiosity.
[52:48] Johnston City Council: He knows clothes. He knows clothes. I said, well, that's really working well.
[52:59] Johnston City Council: I'm just curious, how are they going to bring that filter in? Because the vegetation on both sides of the trail is going to be, you know, 6, 7 feet tall. The trail is thick, it's about 4 or 5 inches thick. I need to see them bring in heavy equipment.
[53:18] Johnston City Council: on the trail.
[53:20] Johnston City Council: So, like, well, when they remove it, they are also trucking, they can go anywhere on the trailer. They have to stay within the mowed areas of it. Well, there isn't anything mowed around the side of the trail.
[53:32] Johnston City Council: Yeah, so they'll probably have to drive on the side with, or they're picking up a small, like, rubber-type vehicle and drive on the trail. We're gonna drive trucks on it to plow and everything, so a skid loader is gonna be less weight than what…
[53:45] Johnston City Council: we would, we would probably be carrying it on. I'll just follow up on them and ask them how they're gonna do that, because I don't want to, you know, compromise the trail now that it's…
[53:54] Johnston City Council: This really is a very nice trail.
[53:57] Johnston City Council: I guess I don't have any concern about knocking some of the legislation going. I don't back up anyway. Right.
[54:04] Johnston City Council: Well, they get more concerned about their education closer to the roadway than I think they do.
[54:09] Johnston City Council: the trail itself, but anyway, why don't you just follow up on that and make sure that…
[54:14] Johnston City Council: Again, one other update I just thought about, we got VINs back from Dewey Park, to replace the trail there and take out what's there. It came in at $34,000, so less than what we anticipated. We were also applying for a REA grant to maybe help fund that.
[54:31] Johnston City Council: And then we also have bids coming in for 62nd Street in front of a HEPA over here. I wanted to see what that number looks like compared in this, to make sure we have enough funds to do both of those with our trail overlay, but those projects will be starting here very soon, so we'll push out some communication when that starts.
[54:51] Johnston City Council: So we're replacing kernel in front of a different one? It's… so it was, it was basically, it's two 5-coat.
[54:59] Johnston City Council: Sidewalks put together that have a crack in the middle of it, and it slopes everything to their parking lot, so we're gonna make it nice, 10 foot, no tire drivers in the middle, and have it sloped floating from their parking lot.
[55:16] Johnston City Council: Thank you. Good evening.
[55:21] Johnston City Council: Sorry. If not, let's hear from her?
[55:30] Johnston City Council: Just wanted to give a brief update on… A 67 after that.
[55:35] Johnston City Council: Market.
[56:09] Johnston City Council: Okay, the water main installation along 62nd Avenue, which was really the first portion of this project, has neared completion near Beaver Drive. There will be some additional arming work that takes place when they remove Beaver Drive and close it down.
[56:28] Johnston City Council: If you recall, early on when we were, looking at staging this project, we were in a stage one, was really, after the water main completion was 54th to 51st.
[56:39] Johnston City Council: Street here, so…
[56:42] Johnston City Council: What the contractor has asked to do, they've put in a request to kind of flip the staging. They've got san… they've got water management, but they've got sanitary sewer due to the American power poles still being in place.
[56:56] Johnston City Council: We're very close to where that sanitary sewer sits, and we've got a lot of sand in this area. So, as in America continues to work to the west.
[57:05] Johnston City Council: The hope is that they can flip stages, work from the east back to the west, those phones will be down when they go to work in that area, likely early next year.
[57:17] Johnston City Council: So, they've requested to, jump to Stage 2.
[57:23] Johnston City Council: where we don't have sanitary sewer in this area for it to be constructed. The… what they were requesting to do first would be to close this intersection, which has always been in the project to do, and then they would continue to work back to the west up to about 49th Street is about where we would
[57:42] Johnston City Council: equity this year.
[57:44] Johnston City Council: With that, we've reminded them that we've got a holiday coming up. The closure for the intersection is a 3-week time period. Those are calendar days. So, rain or shine, they've got 3 weeks to do their work and get that intersection back over.
[58:02] Johnston City Council: With that, we,
[58:05] Johnston City Council: I started working on communications to notify residents and businesses that are on there. They'll have the detour coming through this area using
[58:14] Johnston City Council: Beaver Drive at 66, up to Morley, and then folks out there will have to use Johnston Drive, and go out to Morley. So, just wanted to get kind of a phone update on the request that the contractor has put in, and…
[58:31] Johnston City Council: They plan to start that September 8th, which is the day after Labor Day. We would not close the intersection prior to morning rush hour, so we're gonna have to probably have a 9 a.m. closure.
[58:43] Johnston City Council: To get that set up, just to at least get the room, and then they have to…
[58:48] Johnston City Council: That way itself in regards to the rest of them.
[58:51] Johnston City Council: operate the person.
[58:54] Johnston City Council: I'm sorry, where she met?
[58:58] Johnston City Council: I'll be praying for good weather. This is going to be very painful for those of us who live off Northwest Beaver.
[59:05] Johnston City Council: It's gonna be very painful for those of us that use Beaver Drive to get to work.
[59:12] Johnston City Council: And all of the concrete plans that I said, we're gonna hear all of that downshifting up and down, and they'll be all over the, you know, up and down the…
[59:23] Johnston City Council: the connection over to my head. It would be… That's it.
[59:27] Johnston City Council: Yeah, the goal is to get the intersection back in place,
[59:31] Johnston City Council: In that duration, and then they can…
[59:34] Johnston City Council: Reopen the intersection and continue to work to the west.
[59:37] Johnston City Council: So this isn't all one stage either, like it's shown, but it is broken into smaller stages.
[59:44] Johnston City Council: So we can get folks in and out better. And we have been in communication with the school district as well.
[59:50] Johnston City Council: Sorry.
[59:51] Johnston City Council: Work through all those long plans, but we've had previous conversations with them.
[59:59] Johnston City Council: So where do you have your cursor right now?
[1:00:01] Johnston City Council: That would stay open. I mean, the buses could go to there, and then go get out of the neighborhood. It's just this… this intersection here for 3 weeks, and then they start… No, 3 weeks just at the intersection. Right, just at that intersection.
[1:00:17] Johnston City Council: But then do they have to close from there all the way up to… 49? Yeah. No. They will be doing this in sections and stages. Okay. So that we can keep access to businesses, the apartment buildings, we have to build frontage roads. We just believe that when we close down for winter shutdown.
[1:00:37] Johnston City Council: They'll be just to the east of 49th Street, which will allow buses to get to here. There will be a temporary connection back at this intersection for the winter, and then the contractor will have to finish the rest next year.
[1:00:50] Johnston City Council: That's what I found.
[1:00:53] Johnston City Council: They put in the travelers.
[1:00:55] Johnston City Council: I mean, is it just gonna sit there fenced in on weekends and nobody's work at?
[1:01:00] Johnston City Council: for the intersection itself, for the beaver closure? I mean, that's up to the contractor, but we've given them 21 days to get that work completed.
[1:01:12] Johnston City Council: So if they choose not to work on those days, that's up to them, but…
[1:01:18] Johnston City Council: likely they'll be working weekends, maybe not Sunday, but we would anticipate Saturday working way up.
[1:01:25] Johnston City Council: Not what surprised you if they don't like the holidays?
[1:01:30] Johnston City Council: Looking back to the contract, this wasn't necessarily listed.
[1:01:35] Johnston City Council: As a penalty, as substantial completion?
[1:01:39] Johnston City Council: So, I don't know if there's an actual monetary penalty to that, but…
[1:01:46] Johnston City Council: Who's the contractor? Contractor is, all-star concrete, but the underground is…
[1:01:55] Johnston City Council: The sun is going on again.
[1:02:01] Johnston City Council: Any other questions for Matt?
[1:02:10] Johnston City Council: Any other staff comments?
[1:02:21] Johnston City Council: Aye.
[1:02:24] Johnston City Council: I just wanted to appreciate, a presentation we had on Centerfall 24-72
[1:02:31] Johnston City Council: I think just a couple items that I think are pretty clearly outlined, but it sounds like, so looking towards the end of September, there'll be a presentation to the,
[1:02:40] Johnston City Council: Yeah, I could not.
[1:02:42] Johnston City Council: HR Finance Committee, and then I presume there'll be a work session and some of a presentation, another work session, to kind of look at, alright.
[1:02:52] Johnston City Council: You know, teacher.
[1:02:54] Johnston City Council: Identifying the potential between 693,000.
[1:02:58] Johnston City Council: So that's what that would be. And I guess the other thing I would encourage is sort of be mature, is that…
[1:03:05] Johnston City Council: As we look at all those processes, reviewing those plan dead, Expenses. Meet part of that.
[1:03:13] Johnston City Council: So…
[1:03:14] Johnston City Council: I do just want to call out a couple of those things, but I do appreciate the work and thought and effort that you wanted to invite me.
[1:03:22] Johnston City Council: Councilmember.
[1:03:25] Johnston City Council: brief, I would just ask you to, keep your eyes and ears peeled for, kids and buses and everyone as school starts back up in the next couple of weeks, or actually next week from that standpoint, and so, practice a little extra patience, if you would, as everybody's learning their routes and routes and
[1:03:44] Johnston City Council: And, going about the merry way to learn to be the best possible driver.
[1:03:49] Johnston City Council: 24th, I believe?
[1:03:57] Johnston City Council: I have none anymore.
[1:03:58] Johnston City Council: Nothing, thank you.
[1:04:03] Johnston City Council: Anything else come before he comes to the seat?
[1:04:08] Johnston City Council: No, that's true.