[0:01] offer a motion that Miss Kim Adams be
[0:04] immediately suspended through December
[0:06] the 5th with pay due to
[0:10] insubordination pending further
[0:12] investigation we also asking that Miss
[0:15] Shannon Wagner meet with Miss Adams on
[0:18] 1119 24 in order to retrieve any
[0:21] personal belongings that she may need
[0:23] during that time frame she's also asked
[0:25] to surrender all keys and IDs in any
[0:27] other property of Jones County dur the
[0:30] period of suspension Miss Adams is asked
[0:33] to appear at the next vaa regular board
[0:37] meeting to be held on 12 524 at
[0:41] 4M it has been properly motioned do I
[0:44] hear a
[0:49] second been properly motion and second
[0:51] on the motion all those in favor of the
[0:54] motion please raise your
[0:57] hand those against by the same sign
[1:01] motion carries read the motion
[1:06] again the next item on the uh agenda is
[1:10] item number seven which is public
[1:13] comments
[1:30] excuse me
[2:26] you remember a mon and give you a phone
[2:31] call thatone I HR
[2:35] issue I had I had HR is
[3:00] I said there
[3:24] Ed let me say this at your request I
[3:28] call this individual I don't know this
[3:30] individual I don't even
[3:34] know I to this
[3:37] individual office
[3:39] evener May her exper could
[3:43] Beed that was the
[4:03] I didn't get I didn't get a complaint
[4:05] but let me just say this I think on
[4:07] several
[4:14] meeting I am receiv
[4:45] a lot of what chair just
[4:48] said it's hard to believe that we can we
[4:52] can sit here and say we didn't know we
[4:53] didn't know we didn't know hey you all
[4:56] have annual training that teaches you
[4:59] know to run
[5:01] this so you can't say you didn't know I
[5:05] find it very ironic that the chairman is
[5:08] going to make a comment to the only
[5:10] person that can give them legal advice
[5:12] to let them run the meeting as the
[5:14] chairman instead of uh making chairman
[5:17] and
[5:18] advice when you didn't reach out for the
[5:20] last 12 weeks that we've been going
[5:22] through this mess hadn't reached out at
[5:25] all you say you didn't know this you
[5:26] didn't know that you didn't ask even you
[5:29] had the chairman of our board contact
[5:32] you you had the emails being sent back
[5:34] and forth from where they were sent to
[5:37] our HR Director but yet nothing's done
[5:40] except we didn't know you knew on
[5:43] September the 3 when those when those
[5:46] staff members came out and said
[5:48] something you should have known there
[5:50] was going to be a hostile work
[5:51] environment from that point on everybody
[5:54] that came up here earlier tonight and
[5:55] talked said there was not a problem they
[5:58] were all friends they for each other get
[6:00] CES for each other everybody was happy
[6:01] everybody was good until they came out
[6:04] and said something you don't think that
[6:07] is part of the reason why there's a
[6:09] hostile work environment because that
[6:11] divided the
[6:12] department that's nobody's
[6:14] responsibilities but Tony and y'alls to
[6:17] know that's a problem and not do
[6:19] anything about it because if you didn't
[6:22] think when they came out that there was
[6:24] going to be a problem and then the the
[6:26] department fall apart like it does
[6:28] because everybody said there was not a
[6:30] problem until then except for years ago
[6:33] when the people that left for the same
[6:36] reason so but I do want to clarify one
[6:40] thing chairman you've called for votes
[6:42] tonight asked for a a hand raising
[6:45] that's a that's a roll call vote but
[6:47] you're not raising your hand are you not
[6:49] voting
[6:53] or okay so when there's only three
[6:55] people on this board you got to have
[6:57] three people to make a quum right
[7:00] that's right in order to make a quorum
[7:01] it's he required to vote the law says
[7:03] that the appreciate you can quote the
[7:06] law now you didn't know what the
[7:07] attorney was going to tell you five
[7:09] minutes ago if you finished you ask me a
[7:11] question okay and I'm answer you a
[7:13] question okay and I'm not going to raise
[7:15] my voice like I got pretty good hear
[7:18] okay and I hope you do too so I ra my
[7:20] voice but according to what I read ier
[7:23] to the attorney tax consist
[7:32] is still three of of a five okay is not
[7:36] three of a
[7:38] m
[7:39] no three member board is the three
[7:42] members here is a Corum but you ask me
[7:45] and I told you minimum number
[7:48] tax I didn't that I asked what a for was
[7:51] what
[7:53] it how many does it take to pass a vote
[7:56] two
[8:02] but let me say this in in in reading the
[8:04] state law it says that when there is a
[8:07] vacancy on the board of tax assess and
[8:10] the Board of Commissioners should
[8:12] immediately work to replace those
[8:14] members I'll P back on I'm just telling
[8:17] you what the language says sir I
[8:19] appr I don't these MERS
[8:23] okay Council I would ask that you
[8:26] research that and see if that is act
[8:33] okay the chairman I am I am completely
[8:36] disappointing this board I will make one
[8:38] other comment since we got 10 last time
[8:40] we got 10 minutes it looks like
[8:43] um there was a comment made about the
[8:45] meeting here I think one of the ladies
[8:47] in the office made a comment about U
[8:49] some of the staff members saying that I
[8:51] wanted to fire them all I think M Morgan
[8:53] said something about it before I went
[8:54] back and listened to that and what I
[8:56] said was we've got a problem we want to
[8:59] know what the problem is and we want it
[9:01] fixed if it's his board that's the
[9:03] problem it needs to be fixed if it's the
[9:06] uh department head is the problem it
[9:08] needs to fixed if it's the staff is the
[9:10] department it needs to be fixed and I
[9:14] stand on that all day long whatever the
[9:16] problem is but I will remember remind
[9:18] y'all the the head of this process sits
[9:22] in these
[9:23] seats and I asked you three times it's
[9:25] the third time what are y'all going to
[9:27] do and your answer is
[9:29] to suspend we just did so yeah you
[9:33] suspended the one person that brought
[9:35] the problem to life that's an
[9:37] embarrassment I will Echo what James
[9:39] Collins said before I would recommend
[9:40] all three of y'all resign your position
[9:42] because you're incompetent and you're an
[9:43] embarrassment to this County period well
[9:46] let me tell you this sir I thank you for
[9:48] your comments I don't agree with
[9:50] them but you can say what you
[9:56] say yes sir anybody else
[10:05] how you
[10:30] they r
[11:06] talked
[11:29] I
[12:12] anybody
[12:13] else let me chairman um unless again I'm
[12:19] skimming very quickly the policies and
[12:22] procedures um specific to this board
[12:26] unless there's something I'm missing in
[12:28] my scheming it would require the
[12:30] majority votee of the a total board so
[12:34] it would require three votes for you to
[12:36] pass anything unless there's something
[12:39] that I'm missing as an quick
[12:43] schem no ma'am the total board is still
[12:45] five you're a
[12:48] five yes but to pass anything and have
[12:51] the Quorum you've got to have three that
[12:53] vote alike right so what we need to do
[13:00] oh I'll let you finish yes
[13:09] sir
[13:11] so I don't remember how many years ago
[13:13] but I know Tony has offended some
[13:17] people um whether it
[13:19] be Brash talk
[13:22] or the nature of his demeanor but that's
[13:26] not reason to take off or fire some
[13:29] somebody um there have been a lot of
[13:32] properties that have been put on the
[13:33] rooll um and some of those same
[13:36] individuals have some
[13:38] concerns um these properties were not on
[13:41] the rules for what five six seven
[13:44] years um you don't get commended for
[13:47] that you get slapped on the wrist
[13:50] evidently um there's been
[13:53] talk about addressing some of the issues
[13:56] and the only thought thought that I had
[14:00] was that you had
[14:02] to incite what was incited on September
[14:07] 3rd for it to happen because you
[14:09] couldn't do it
[14:14] yourself there's been a long issue
[14:19] with maybe how he does business or who
[14:23] it impacts and the reality is
[14:27] that at the end of the day
[14:29] more properties have been put on the tax
[14:31] R since he's been here than any other
[14:35] time and at the end of the day we went
[14:40] through State and then we had an
[14:43] arbitration hearing and at that last
[14:48] hearing they
[14:51] said that he was
[14:54] clear and
[14:57] that the new sales ratio was 33% which
[15:00] was higher than the
[15:03] 31 then the data that's used to see if
[15:08] he's sales chasing was within range so
[15:12] he was not sales chasing the other data
[15:16] and I don't remember all the the the
[15:18] numbers or the names was also in line
[15:21] which said that whatever he was doing
[15:23] was
[15:24] congruent in the sales
[15:26] study so
[15:29] if that is the case and Jones County was
[15:32] Vindicated as was the
[15:36] department then the events of September
[15:39] 3rd were not
[15:43] warranted but it happened in that same
[15:48] meeting said that we'll protect you in
[15:51] the
[15:53] hallway yes ma'am I was standing right
[15:55] there and I
[15:56] heard correct thank you
[15:59] amen amen they counties too right so so
[16:03] it gave the impression that there was
[16:05] some wrongdoing because it wasn't to
[16:07] protect him or them it was the
[16:11] individuals that came up to speak if
[16:13] they had been whistleblowing and the
[16:17] office was out of order the arbitrators
[16:20] would have said so and the county would
[16:22] not have been
[16:23] Vindicated that's the problem I have
[16:26] where did it start
[16:30] to my fellow Commissioners I understand
[16:33] there's a
[16:34] frustration but at the end of the day we
[16:37] don't have to stoke any
[16:41] fires because there was so much
[16:44] commentary about the sky is falling the
[16:47] world is at an end and we're going to
[16:49] have to pay this money back and be in
[16:51] debt this and be charged this parcel
[16:53] none of that came to fruition
[17:03] so I know that the fire was stoked
[17:09] here and when they came they added more
[17:13] to
[17:14] it which is much to do about
[17:18] nothing if it was my decision I'd fire
[17:22] them
[17:23] both because you can't us cert my
[17:26] authority in my department still have a
[17:29] job I know you wouldn't do it
[17:32] say there's no way because it causes a
[17:36] problem in the office and it did because
[17:39] they thought they had whistleblower
[17:43] protection and what happened was an
[17:45] innocent bystander got caught in The
[17:52] Fray I don't know what would make an
[17:54] officer hit
[17:56] somebody it doesn't make sense
[17:59] I don't understand why someone who would
[18:02] file a complaint on a paper that she
[18:05] printed on a Thursday running to the
[18:07] human resource department will wait till
[18:09] Friday
[18:12] morning to take it to the authorities
[18:15] walking past human resources and a
[18:17] sheriff make it make
[18:20] sense as a commissioner of this County
[18:23] and I've been here the
[18:24] longest I'm highly disappointed in US
[18:29] because we had a way to manage
[18:34] this never have I been here and an
[18:38] employee got
[18:40] arrested doesn't make
[18:45] sense I don't get
[18:47] it but tonight you all ruled and you
[18:50] were favorable that was
[18:52] nice wouldn't have been me because I've
[18:55] seen people fired for Less
[18:58] I
[19:01] hope that this department does what's
[19:05] needed to be done to set every mind
[19:07] clear and every record straight and I
[19:10] hope you go to $106
[19:13] $130 a square foot then everybody in
[19:17] this County will have something to
[19:19] say because then it'll really be an
[19:23] issue and I understand his compassion
[19:26] for trying not to hurt the the tax
[19:28] perence and he said that I didn't feel
[19:30] like and the state said that's not your
[19:33] job so he was wrong in that
[19:36] regard let us do our job bring the
[19:40] values up to
[19:41] 106 130 and then let us roll back the
[19:44] millit
[19:46] rate and let the nashing of
[19:49] teeth happen on our
[19:53] watch threers board it's ironic that the
[19:57] only incompetent board is the
[20:00] Blackboard I'm going to say
[20:02] it
[20:04] when and I defend it let me tell you
[20:08] something when when I sat
[20:11] here and y'all
[20:13] allowed that zoning and planning to put
[20:17] containers in my
[20:19] district but you won't allow them to put
[20:22] them in your District that's a problem
[20:24] erene should not sit on two boards
[20:26] that's in the ordinances yall allow it
[20:29] for years y'all know what's right and
[20:31] y'all do what's wrong and y'all allowed
[20:33] it when I said that board was
[20:34] incompetent it need to be replaced
[20:35] nobody thought it because it was okay
[20:37] because it was in my district but it's
[20:39] wrong it's in the ordinance
[20:45] clearly I'm sorry is that 10 minutes
[20:48] dang it my bad
[20:50] sorry I don't think I use my
[20:54] minutes how many morees
[20:58] [Music]
[21:01] thank
[21:02] you reason I call commissioner Martin
[21:04] out for being wrong when he wants to
[21:06] bring race into an issue nobody fired
[21:08] the two white people that were on this
[21:10] board they chose to leave so that has
[21:13] nothing to do with us when he talked
[21:15] about stoking fires up here that came
[21:17] after two employees that Tony asked to
[21:20] come out and talk and tell us what the
[21:22] problem was that he was blaming on the
[21:24] state so that's another um
[21:27] misrepresentation of the truth the
[21:30] second the other parts of the story that
[21:32] really sound great although not very
[21:35] true from what I heard or anybody else
[21:37] in that room the state never said we
[21:40] were Vindicated of anything the state
[21:42] said you went up 2% but we are still far
[21:45] below the 40% that we should be
[21:48] at arrat the arbitrators their only
[21:52] decision was to listen to it they went
[21:54] into a closed session they came out with
[21:56] a decision to raise it up two points
[21:58] they didn't say anybody was Vindicated
[21:59] they didn't say the state was doing the
[22:01] I mean the county was doing the right
[22:02] thing they didn't say Tony was
[22:15] great all I know is we have failed the
[22:20] state requirements for the second year
[22:22] in a row and looking that way for the
[22:25] third year according to what they've
[22:27] told us so when we don't do anything for
[22:30] 2 years we're required to do something
[22:33] we were not we're not we are a lot
[22:35] better than we were from 31.4 to 33.9
[22:38] that's obvious but we're nowhere near
[22:41] where we're supposed to be based on the
[22:42] state guidelines and for us to say that
[22:45] we were Vindicated by that we weren't
[22:48] Vindicated by anything we were told what
[22:51] our problems are and they still are and
[22:53] the only stoken that was was done was
[22:56] after everything started blowing
[22:59] up and I have no problem being told I
[23:02] stoked the fire not when a fire needs to
[23:04] be stoked the one thing I heard from
[23:06] somebody tonight was this department
[23:07] will never be the same I hope not I hope
[23:11] it is never the same because this
[23:12] department is where we got us is got us
[23:14] to where we are now this department this
[23:16] board it starts at the top goes all the
[23:18] way down I agree I wouldn't have fired
[23:21] uh the two of them tonight I would have
[23:22] already fired
[23:25] somebody thank you Mr K
[23:28] did that close
[23:30] out iuse my
[23:33] minut you you just provide information
[23:37] person this is public comments
[23:39] commissioner Martin said that we're
[23:41] totally Vindicated in the last meet when
[23:44] I got up here last the first time I got
[23:47] up here September
[23:49] 3rd I
[23:51] said we our grades were all over the
[23:55] place they are they were I I said we had
[23:59] way too many
[24:01] overrides due to sales
[24:03] chasing they were I said we needed to
[24:06] start doing sales ratio studies instead
[24:09] of just throwing numbers at
[24:11] neighborhoods in the last two meetings
[24:14] Tony has St set stood up here and said
[24:17] he's fixing the sales ratios we're
[24:20] starting to do sales ratios he said
[24:22] we're going to CH we change the
[24:25] grades everything I said he said we're
[24:28] now working on correcting him how y'all
[24:31] can not see the problem is beyond me he
[24:36] stood up there and said that he is
[24:38] fixing the three main problems I
[24:42] outlined are y'all that blind you cannot
[24:45] see it it's on record it's on YouTube
[24:49] look at
[24:51] it let's pause for a second I ask for
[24:56] civility I to be of calm minds and calm
[25:01] thoughts I can tell you at this point
[25:04] the chair is totally disappointed with
[25:05] those
[25:06] people because they have not shared fair
[25:10] or civility in their they've done
[25:14] all for that reason for that
[25:18] reason we serve at the pl and our
[25:21] appointed
[25:22] Meers but we're not a lap dog I'm not
[25:25] one and I'm not going to be one and I'm
[25:28] going to say
[25:30] this hopefully in the future if you
[25:33] can't retain yourself with a certain
[25:35] level of fairness
[25:37] andil then we as a board will turn a
[25:42] blind ey
[25:47] and thank you anyone else
[26:01] yeah I'm Elizabeth Williams I live in gr
[26:12] Georgia I so
[26:16] incredibly
[26:20] disappointed in everything in a lot of
[26:25] things I raised my children I've had
[26:29] children of all colors right now I have
[26:33] seven and I've had every color Under the
[26:36] Sun and I'm going to tell you I've
[26:38] always looked at the
[26:41] facts I don't care what color the facts
[26:43] are that's what I'm looking at I'm a
[26:46] researcher and I'll look at the
[26:48] research and I think that's what needs
[26:50] to be done here look at the facts take
[26:53] out any comment you could possibly have
[26:55] written down somewhere whatever look at
[26:58] the facts look at the numbers look at
[27:00] the numbers on the paper look at what
[27:02] the numbers are going to
[27:03] be make your decisions from that all
[27:06] this hoopla about black white whatever
[27:08] that's
[27:09] crap it's the numbers numbers don't
[27:13] lie they
[27:15] don't I know statistics back and forth
[27:18] left and
[27:20] right numbers don't
[27:24] lie and that's what needs to be looked
[27:26] at all these com all this whatever
[27:29] whatever whatever that's just drama and
[27:31] I always teach my kids you stay out of
[27:33] it you look at the numbers what are the
[27:36] whatever those numbers are make your
[27:38] decisions on
[27:40] that this drama is too
[27:44] much we're a county we don't deserve all
[27:46] this drama we deserve you all to look at
[27:49] the numbers and make the decisions
[27:51] accordingly that's what we deserve as
[27:53] taxpayers we don't care about your drama
[27:56] don't care about their drama nobody's
[27:57] drama we care about the numbers and how
[28:00] that affects
[28:01] us especially when your mom with seven
[28:03] freaking kids you care about the numbers
[28:06] I don't care about none of your drama
[28:07] not one bit of
[28:09] it I do care about treat being treated
[28:12] fairly and equally as we all do that's
[28:15] our right as United States citizens of
[28:17] America is to be treated fairly and
[28:21] equally and we don't want to be told
[28:23] that a blind eye is going to be
[28:25] turned we're expecting you all to take
[28:27] it all into account when it comes to the
[28:30] numbers that man is telling you
[28:33] numbers take in the
[28:35] numbers put aside any feelings you have
[28:38] or whatever whatever I get it but when
[28:40] people that know more than you do take
[28:42] in the numbers listen to them that is
[28:44] the one thing I've learned in life
[28:45] listen to the people that know more than
[28:47] I
[28:48] do listen to them I've listen to y'all
[28:52] I've been listening to y'all for quite
[28:53] some time y'all don't know everything
[28:55] they don't know everything but the
[28:56] numbers don't
[28:59] lie I've never had a math equation
[29:02] that's worked out correctly be a lie
[29:05] never I've never ran statistics and had
[29:08] it be a complete lie when it's ran
[29:10] correctly never and I've been doing it a
[29:12] long time a very long
[29:17] time look at your numbers make your
[29:19] decisions the right way and just my God
[29:22] least in drama out of it and be
[29:23] respectful to us taxpayers because we
[29:25] deserve you to look at the numbers and
[29:27] do what's right
[29:29] right thank
[29:31] you anyone
[29:35] else well that'll close out the public
[29:38] comment portion of our meeting now Mr BR
[29:41] we need to go back and revote on the one
[29:46] two
[29:47] four five items do we need to restate
[29:51] them and just go
[29:55] back you said you didn't vote on
[29:58] anything I didn't vote on anything so I
[30:01] just need to go back
[30:03] and you just corrected us by reading the
[30:06] legal V is not a valid okay and we
[30:11] follow legal counsel and I thank you for
[30:13] that so to correct that there five items
[30:17] that we voted well really we had five it
[30:25] Ved so we need to restate those motions
[30:30] how you how you ad I will I
[30:43] commission
[30:49] coms
[30:53] that's so it's a little bit of a tricky
[30:59] situation um I don't know that it would
[31:01] be completely
[31:03] improper when I tell them they can't
[31:06] vote on something after comments it is
[31:09] usually a new matter that has come up
[31:12] during
[31:13] comments and so if you want to move
[31:15] forward with addressing it tonight then
[31:18] yes you would have to each item have all
[31:22] three of you V okay we'll do that since
[31:25] you brought it to our attention now we
[31:27] know right um yes and we w we don't want
[31:29] to be in Def because none of those V
[31:31] will okay so let me roll through these
[31:35] votes chair calls for a motion on the
[31:38] approval of today's
[31:40] agenda hear a motion on that
[31:43] item second call for the vote all show
[31:47] by ra your hands motion
[31:53] carries the next item approve of the
[31:55] minutes from November 724 regular
[31:58] executive session chff calls for a
[32:07] motion I hear second on that
[32:10] motion call for the vote all those in
[32:12] favor of the motion raise your
[32:15] hand next item approval of the time
[32:18] limit of two minutes for each taxpayer
[32:20] to address the board of tax assess at a
[32:22] meeting this will update the policy and
[32:25] procedures man
[32:28] properly moved do I hear second I been
[32:30] properly moved second all the vote
[32:32] approve this amendment raise your
[32:37] hand the next item is approval of four
[32:40] VA Homestead exemptions chair calls for
[32:43] a
[32:44] motion hear second proper motion to
[32:48] Second it vote all in favor raise your
[32:52] hands uh chair calls for a approval of
[32:55] the executive session to address person
[32:58] issues hear a motion on that
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[33:03] second call for the vote all Inay that
[33:06] motion please raise your
[33:08] hand and the last itemer
[33:14] to chair calls for a motion ENT back
[33:17] into session a motion on that
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[33:22] second second in favor of the motion
[33:25] please ra hand
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[33:38] toin pending investigation we are
[33:51] asking during that time frame she also
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[34:09] moot do I hear
[34:10] second all in favor of the motion please
[34:13] raise your
[34:14] hand chair calls for an adjournment of
[34:17] tonight's meeting motion on that
[34:21] item seconder motion second forj this
[34:25] meeting ised
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