1 00:01:10,100 --> 00:01:11,500 Well, 2 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:49,760 you'll 3 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,720 get 4 00:02:33,500 --> 00:02:37,440 what I'm going to do is what I'm going 5 00:03:13,660 --> 00:03:29,120 to 6 00:03:51,620 --> 00:03:52,980 do with the camera. 7 00:04:05,510 --> 00:04:07,410 Hi guys, how are you? 8 00:04:08,110 --> 00:04:10,470 We're trying to make the work done right now. 9 00:04:10,710 --> 00:04:13,810 And by the way, because I feel it's going to be a good condition. 10 00:04:14,410 --> 00:04:18,870 And I'm going to try to turn my camera around and just kind of kind of 11 00:04:18,870 --> 00:04:25,090 Can around to see if I can join and use my camera. 12 00:04:25,430 --> 00:04:26,890 My phone is a camera to see. 13 00:04:28,790 --> 00:04:34,910 So hopefully it'll work. It's really echo in here because the building is empty. Can you hear me okay? 14 00:04:35,790 --> 00:04:38,490 Yeah, almost yes, most part. 15 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,720 Okay. So I see people in 16 00:04:46,660 --> 00:04:48,260 Barbara's hanging in. 17 00:04:50,580 --> 00:04:52,640 We're also waiting on the architect. 18 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,900 the government should be here in a few minutes. 19 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:22,960 Hi Joel. 20 00:11:30,750 --> 00:11:31,690 What did they say was happening? 21 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:38,020 Did they meet you? 22 00:12:04,010 --> 00:12:04,250 Okay. 23 00:12:04,250 --> 00:12:08,120 I can't hear anybody. 24 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:09,900 Okay. 25 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,020 What were you saying, cable? 26 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:17,620 I can hear me. 27 00:12:19,530 --> 00:12:20,750 I can hear you, Joel. 28 00:12:21,390 --> 00:12:22,770 I can hear you. 29 00:12:25,590 --> 00:12:26,630 I can hear you. 30 00:12:30,030 --> 00:12:30,370 I can't. 31 00:12:30,690 --> 00:12:31,330 Can't you hear me? 32 00:12:51,700 --> 00:12:53,560 Guys, I'm going to call back in. 33 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:54,420 Okay. 34 00:12:54,420 --> 00:12:54,980 And 35 00:13:18,980 --> 00:13:23,280 we have the guests on with us as well as we're just our team. 36 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:33,700 What was that, Barbara? 37 00:13:34,380 --> 00:13:39,820 And it's just wondering if the guests or the business owners were joining us as well this afternoon. 38 00:13:40,020 --> 00:13:40,660 Sorry, I wasn't clear. 39 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,440 Yes, that's my belief, but I think that we're waiting on there. 40 00:13:45,780 --> 00:13:47,040 Not sure, not sure. 41 00:14:28,030 --> 00:14:30,890 Joe, what are we discussing today? 42 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:51,460 I guess what I would like to discuss is get the height squared away so they can move on 43 00:14:51,460 --> 00:14:55,240 and continue developing the plan. 44 00:14:58,530 --> 00:14:59,890 I guess when we get started. 45 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:07,500 That's what I'll probably point out. I think there's a lot of still moving pieces that 46 00:15:10,220 --> 00:15:14,260 I think they could change the final outcome. 47 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:16,720 Okay. 48 00:15:20,990 --> 00:15:22,330 Based on the drawing I've seen. 49 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,960 But that's, I mean, it seems like everybody's over there. 50 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,120 Yeah, we've got a park park, is Ricky there? 51 00:15:34,610 --> 00:15:36,550 So, what you see is that? 52 00:15:37,590 --> 00:15:44,350 So, this solution shows the building as a set to act 53 00:15:44,350 --> 00:15:46,650 way geophagetic on the front. 54 00:15:46,670 --> 00:15:48,830 To give that 45 degree from straight. 55 00:15:49,610 --> 00:15:51,870 And if we've got it to work, we've got it to work. 56 00:15:54,470 --> 00:15:55,370 Let's get them. 57 00:15:55,630 --> 00:15:57,690 Again, we need to get the meeting started. 58 00:15:57,690 --> 00:16:08,690 officially right. Okay, I'm this time we'll go to order the design view commission 59 00:16:08,690 --> 00:16:13,770 during 18 2020 special call meeting via zoom meetings. 60 00:16:16,550 --> 00:16:19,990 We got body, we had body, we had body. 61 00:16:19,990 --> 00:16:29,430 see just trying to get back online. Yeah, see we connect them. Yeah, so so so but we have 62 00:16:29,430 --> 00:16:36,690 Barbara face line we got Kimberly light four. Tamari is not here. So far that I know. 63 00:16:38,270 --> 00:16:46,610 No, it's not. So we can we got three four. I guess we can start four, right? That's three. 64 00:16:47,930 --> 00:16:51,610 So, okay. So, I guess we can get started on it. 65 00:16:52,570 --> 00:16:53,390 Do we have a quorum? 66 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,400 We got three out of five. 67 00:16:59,300 --> 00:17:00,520 And by joining. 68 00:17:07,500 --> 00:17:08,540 I'll get her back. 69 00:17:11,210 --> 00:17:13,390 Yeah, one body to be here. 70 00:17:18,050 --> 00:17:18,850 What happened to Bonnie? 71 00:17:22,650 --> 00:17:25,210 She's having, I think she's having some connection issues. 72 00:17:25,630 --> 00:17:27,010 Okay, we'll take a session on a call. 73 00:17:27,870 --> 00:17:29,670 Okay, we got some movement. 74 00:17:29,670 --> 00:17:30,110 Nice to meet 75 00:17:37,180 --> 00:17:38,480 you. 76 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:43,400 Oh 77 00:17:51,940 --> 00:17:54,780 thank 78 00:18:02,270 --> 00:18:02,270 you. 79 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:35,880 Wow. 80 00:18:36,540 --> 00:18:44,540 I don't know I just some thing dug up up there anyway, the host. 81 00:18:46,220 --> 00:18:47,900 So we got less people now. 82 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,080 So we got serious connectivity issues. 83 00:18:56,340 --> 00:18:57,620 I like it on the front. 84 00:18:57,620 --> 00:19:03,840 I think that resessing it on the back gives a different a better view for the tinnitus, but 85 00:19:11,190 --> 00:19:13,190 there we go. There's cable back. 86 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:46,220 All right, what's we're supposed to get back? That's a little bit of a 87 00:20:46,220 --> 00:20:46,520 are 88 00:20:49,020 --> 00:20:58,300 you a side table and they be outside I mean you 89 00:20:58,300 --> 00:21:06,130 break and we've got better lighting outside if well the thing for being outside is 90 00:21:06,130 --> 00:21:10,590 there's so much traffic we're not gonna be able to hear because of cars yeah okay 91 00:21:10,590 --> 00:21:17,070 there's Bonnie Bobby's about hey Bonnie we missed you can we call this an order now 92 00:21:17,070 --> 00:21:23,730 Yeah, let's go. So we got, we just, we, we call the meeting to order. We have now bodies, 93 00:21:24,530 --> 00:21:26,890 sugarabbi, Barbara Casey Lane, 94 00:21:29,070 --> 00:21:33,830 Barbara either. Yes, I'm here. And we got Kimberly light for 95 00:21:33,830 --> 00:21:43,970 and temporary dowel. It's not present. But we have a, a motion to approve the agenda for today's 96 00:21:43,970 --> 00:21:50,070 Special meeting. I'll make a motion. I'll make a motion to approve the agenda for the day, special meeting. 97 00:21:50,990 --> 00:21:52,430 All in favor say aye. 98 00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:53,050 I still can. 99 00:21:53,730 --> 00:21:54,570 Any opposed? 100 00:21:55,810 --> 00:21:56,210 All right. 101 00:21:56,750 --> 00:21:58,930 We move on to winners keep all businesses. 102 00:21:59,290 --> 00:22:01,290 Not all businesses new business. 103 00:22:01,750 --> 00:22:05,430 We're not talking about restaurant loft apartments, 128 South Main Street. 104 00:22:06,650 --> 00:22:06,950 All right. 105 00:22:07,850 --> 00:22:09,890 So, go ahead David. 106 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,800 Well, Mr. Dave, I'll get you going. 107 00:22:18,140 --> 00:22:20,060 Yeah, here we go. Yeah, I'll hear you now. 108 00:22:21,900 --> 00:22:31,250 Look at the summer, since Tuesday, a lot of things cleared in our 109 00:22:31,250 --> 00:22:39,430 variable loader in the option D on the outside. Is that correct? 110 00:22:40,860 --> 00:22:45,500 Correct. We're breaking up, but I think. Yeah, we can hear you in the first, before you say 111 00:22:45,500 --> 00:22:52,080 actually be David. Yeah. The black he's talking about the black lower. 112 00:22:55,660 --> 00:22:56,820 He's a person. 113 00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:12,020 Maybe they shouldn't connect to Wapah. Y'all connected to Wapah. 114 00:23:15,410 --> 00:23:16,030 They're the 115 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,040 home. One no wait. 116 00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:24,940 All right. Yeah. No. What out again? OK. There you go. 117 00:23:26,700 --> 00:23:33,020 All right. So I was just saying when the smoke cleared Tuesday, we had come up with a consensus that 118 00:23:33,020 --> 00:23:39,920 option B, the color scheme, design of the exterior of option B was what was agreed upon? 119 00:23:39,980 --> 00:23:43,180 The darker color, right? The black is a bottom view. 120 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:51,940 Correct. The way that's the point option B. Now, during that time, the architect, the adult 121 00:23:51,940 --> 00:24:00,580 session and others come up with some drawing so show you in a minute. It will show us the patio. 122 00:24:03,620 --> 00:24:12,200 Speed back, speed back, so these staggered back for the loss, the ways incorporated that idea into it. 123 00:24:13,260 --> 00:24:16,340 And I'll explain that more detail in a minute. 124 00:24:16,340 --> 00:24:24,780 The other thing was about was the height of course and right now the weight is from the size wall 125 00:24:24,780 --> 00:24:32,820 to the very top of the top of the very top wall, the 47 feet forances. So that's a 126 00:24:37,940 --> 00:24:41,840 top 127 00:25:06,610 --> 00:25:16,210 of the 128 00:25:16,210 --> 00:25:20,210 We can hear you. 129 00:25:20,790 --> 00:25:21,490 We can hear you. 130 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:24,360 Hello. 131 00:25:25,180 --> 00:25:25,700 Welcome. 132 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,440 Okay, can you hear me now? 133 00:25:31,020 --> 00:25:32,100 I can hear you. 134 00:25:32,180 --> 00:25:33,260 I cannot see you. 135 00:25:33,260 --> 00:25:34,000 I can hear you. 136 00:25:39,980 --> 00:25:40,620 Okay. 137 00:25:44,900 --> 00:25:45,060 Okay. 138 00:25:45,980 --> 00:25:46,200 I can hear you. 139 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:46,520 Excuse me. 140 00:25:48,700 --> 00:25:49,800 Everybody hear me. 141 00:25:49,980 --> 00:25:50,800 Say this. 142 00:25:52,180 --> 00:26:01,780 Let me know if we lose it, but what we do is suggest you call the front of the building. 143 00:26:07,220 --> 00:26:09,380 I think we lost you. 144 00:26:25,420 --> 00:26:28,600 All right. 145 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:33,080 Can you hear us okay? 146 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,940 I hear you now. 147 00:26:35,940 --> 00:26:52,720 I think you have to give that a chance for you to think of that very well, and if you can see from the drawing, there's a version that you can do. 148 00:26:53,060 --> 00:26:54,780 Hey, I think you'll have to film it. 149 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,260 And the version is to be back on. 150 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:58,580 We'd like to be back on. 151 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,260 It's like a pillow bottom. 152 00:27:00,260 --> 00:27:11,650 It was still at that point. No, we cannot see you. We saw. We can hear you in and out, but. 153 00:27:11,650 --> 00:27:16,510 Your picture is frozen. Yeah, your picture is frozen. I'm in and out as well. 154 00:27:20,090 --> 00:27:20,610 Hey, cable. 155 00:27:21,490 --> 00:27:26,830 I'm checking to see if anybody remembers what the fig tree Wi-Fi password is. 156 00:27:27,510 --> 00:27:29,770 because, yeah, it's not everything at all. 157 00:27:29,770 --> 00:27:31,790 To log in to save tree. 158 00:27:34,030 --> 00:27:37,510 But can they, will it come through the far wall, though? 159 00:27:37,790 --> 00:27:38,890 I don't know. 160 00:27:39,630 --> 00:27:44,530 I'm thinking that if you can check to see if you could see that Wi-Fi as an option. 161 00:27:45,070 --> 00:27:49,770 I'm trying to see if I have any remembrance of what it was. 162 00:27:55,820 --> 00:27:58,820 One of the bad, it's not happening from the back. 163 00:28:02,500 --> 00:28:03,380 Or Clay. 164 00:28:04,540 --> 00:28:06,280 Wait, no, it doesn't. Then the website. 165 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:07,760 They do. 166 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:08,440 They open. 167 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,340 Because at this point, I mean, we know what the inside of the building looks like. 168 00:28:16,460 --> 00:28:19,640 So if they can go to play arts, Clayton, then that would be cool. 169 00:28:24,580 --> 00:28:29,160 Yeah, if you can stand outside, you know, we rather hear the noise, 170 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:37,700 car noise and being able to see and hear it then nothing and nothing. Yeah. We could try 171 00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:43,780 if they can step aside away from those brick buildings. Maybe they can get better signal. 172 00:28:51,940 --> 00:28:56,440 Well, we can talk about it. I mean, we already started a facial meeting. 173 00:28:57,140 --> 00:29:02,300 The Joel, can I ask you a question? Is it your understanding that the client is on the broad 174 00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:10,340 or from the South Main Street sidewalk from the South Main Street sidewalk. That's I think that's what I was able. 175 00:29:10,460 --> 00:29:18,000 From there of 45 feet. 47 feet, but it seems like this, the 40th level. They pushed the 176 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:27,430 build them back 47. They pushed the build them back, which might be high, but I'm leaning towards, 177 00:29:27,430 --> 00:29:41,450 You know, they can go 35 feet and angle it and they can go higher if, you know, you know, if, if, if, if, if, if you need to be on either side of, of the building. 178 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:50,000 So, and I think 47 if you go by that rule, they can, it's still possible. 179 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:59,640 Okay, so what you're saying is that it's not a good boy case, it's too possible. 180 00:30:00,020 --> 00:30:03,580 We'll take the bill back from the street to give some relief, visually. 181 00:30:04,580 --> 00:30:13,640 Yeah, so I'm leaning towards just to keep it, keep it within the rules and not trying to reinvent. 182 00:30:14,740 --> 00:30:24,460 So if you get in front of the building, so if you can go straight up 35 feet and then angle it at 45 feet, 183 00:30:24,460 --> 00:30:38,000 And then if you need to feed more, so once you angle it, then you can go higher, but from the street, you see 35 and then, like, for example, you can set back the second level, 184 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:46,060 second level of harmony, you can set that back, but the first one could be right against the facade and the same thing on the back. 185 00:30:46,060 --> 00:30:53,440 Yeah, it doesn't do us any advantage to do it to do that. We just, we just said both of them back. It's not a problem. 186 00:30:53,980 --> 00:31:00,520 Okay. The way the drawing shows, the way this drawing shows, this drawing shows the front facade. 187 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,940 Okay, this painted this color. 188 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,960 And these people standing here, they're at the perfect level because the building sits back about eight feet. 189 00:31:09,180 --> 00:31:12,200 Oh, yeah, we don't see that well, but that's pretty cool. That's good. 190 00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:14,680 Yeah, it really looks good. 191 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:20,800 And then we just go up with the back portion sheer, you know, sheer matter. We think that much will. 192 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:28,720 Because we don't gain anything, it's not that we, we don't gain anything inside the living units by staggering one of the other. 193 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,460 Because the living units are towards the rear. 194 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,700 So, and what up front facade can demonstrate? 195 00:31:33,340 --> 00:31:37,840 And what about the back? Because the back, it seems like you're existing wall facade. 196 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:45,700 It's a lot lower than your original drawing, so I mean, you can gain some height from that on the back on broad street. 197 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:52,720 What happens to the back? Because the back is about 9 or 10 feet below grade, you have that. 198 00:31:52,740 --> 00:32:00,840 Then once you get up to that level, at the main floor level, it goes up the main floor level, which is about 10 feet. 199 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,220 And then there are other two levels. 200 00:32:03,420 --> 00:32:08,940 So that's why it seems like it's higher, that is actually the same, but you have a lower section 201 00:32:08,940 --> 00:32:09,440 in the back. 202 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,300 And we try to give us some definition by putting voice in the back where the back and these 203 00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:14,480 are. 204 00:32:14,620 --> 00:32:18,280 So it does step back, create shadows, and create voids back there. 205 00:32:19,580 --> 00:32:23,300 We couldn't take anything out of that as for a step in the back where you had it, because 206 00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:28,660 we would lose so much in the units, it just makes it no practical to even have units up there. 207 00:32:28,660 --> 00:32:30,500 It makes the units around. 208 00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:37,040 The original store, I think, that you're sitting in now, has what 12 or 15 209 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,780 seedlings, are you adjusting that ceiling height internally? 210 00:32:44,060 --> 00:32:48,400 It stays the same. And it what happens is above the ceiling, 211 00:32:48,460 --> 00:32:53,760 in front of the store, there's a parapet outside that goes up to two or three feet. 212 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,000 And then our floor store there. And the way we're going to keep from 213 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:05,860 this building. We're going to put columns about every 20 feet on both sides to match the historic 214 00:33:05,860 --> 00:33:10,920 aspect that is building. We'll box them out or have steel columns painted a color that 215 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,880 matches the brick or whatever. Those are going to go up, punch a small hole through this existing 216 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:27,980 ceiling all the way up to the roof and we're going to create a brand new floor that Hoover is at the 217 00:33:27,980 --> 00:33:37,820 But all the way up to support those new floors without the building, without the existing building have to take any of that loan. 218 00:33:38,260 --> 00:33:46,940 That's what we were going to do in the cafe when we were going to bounce or bump the front entrance back. 219 00:33:47,340 --> 00:33:54,300 Yeah, that's what I thought I needed to happen because I didn't see how those existing brick was going to be able to support that but that's structure. 220 00:33:54,940 --> 00:33:58,020 Because, especially in the end, we're not going to clear it. 221 00:33:59,060 --> 00:33:59,220 Okay. 222 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:00,820 So, so. 223 00:34:00,820 --> 00:34:01,540 Side walk. 224 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,500 But you're part of a wall, a slope from, from, from, 225 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,140 Main street towards broad street. 226 00:34:09,240 --> 00:34:10,200 It does slopes. 227 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:11,860 Yes. 228 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:13,640 Yes. So, what's going to happen? 229 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:13,920 Yeah. 230 00:34:14,020 --> 00:34:14,760 That's a slope. 231 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,700 That would be a, that would be a feeling. 232 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,380 On top of the existing brick with, with wood 233 00:34:22,380 --> 00:34:29,320 to match the second level, in the third level, so that'll be a feeling and because it does slow. 234 00:34:29,740 --> 00:34:35,920 But we're not going to rest, but it really hits the floor, the new floor, it's all supported by the structure. 235 00:34:36,460 --> 00:34:38,520 So that feeling has very little weight in the feeling. 236 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,440 Let me ask you to take a flash. 237 00:34:41,220 --> 00:34:49,140 Can you create two floors system, one for the front units and another one for the other units? 238 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:55,540 and you can you can lower because if you lower your your apartment units, you know, 239 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,750 you know, it helped with the skill of the building but it also helped with your flights. 240 00:34:59,940 --> 00:35:03,140 As in the back on Broad Street, you're talking about 57 feet. 241 00:35:04,860 --> 00:35:09,380 Hi. Right. Yeah. And I think they've been going there for a while over here. 242 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,340 Yeah. And they've been creating, we're not creating. 243 00:35:12,540 --> 00:35:17,780 But we're not creating a new 5 to 7 foot level. It's just the building is lower there. So if you 244 00:35:17,780 --> 00:35:24,960 you from the Grail back to the top, yes, 50, 50, but from the first street where it just looks 245 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:32,400 as a whole because the broad street is a brand new vignette, like it's going to be our new showcase 246 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:39,780 for Jonesboro. So to have one building that is substantially taller than everything else in the block 247 00:35:39,780 --> 00:35:45,420 is what the concern is. So on broad street it becomes more pronounced and height difference 248 00:35:45,420 --> 00:35:50,120 than even on Main Street, which I think is pretty extreme as it is already. 249 00:35:50,460 --> 00:35:57,980 Unless fig tree matched it sometime and added a second layer or Clayton art added to kind of balance it out. 250 00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:16,920 But right now it's just all by itself, I mean, let me ask David, excuse me, let me ask David, what was the final height for the Ferguson building with the deck? 251 00:36:24,420 --> 00:36:25,060 Yeah, 252 00:36:28,910 --> 00:36:41,860 with the, as it is now, right around, I think, close, like close to 31 and then it was made a little bit higher for the rooftop Mexican restaurant. 253 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:52,500 Then it's EA Madden building, we estimated 33 to 34, we'll probably close to 34 feet as it is right now. 254 00:36:55,030 --> 00:37:08,730 Okay, I was thinking that with the rooftop deck that it would go up a little higher, therefore wouldn't, you know, so different, but okay, that's the reason I'm trying to check the height for everything. 255 00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:19,870 Mr. Washington has these, this system, have you used this before another municipalities, the steel system you're talking about? 256 00:37:19,970 --> 00:37:23,370 No, it would be a wood system or still it could be the one. 257 00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:25,930 But the question is, you used all the time, 258 00:37:26,010 --> 00:37:27,190 but it's a pretty small structure. 259 00:37:27,990 --> 00:37:31,150 No, you know, in downtown, in downtown Fadeview, 260 00:37:31,570 --> 00:37:34,910 they have a twisted taco and they added the bar 261 00:37:34,910 --> 00:37:36,750 on the second level and the roof terrace. 262 00:37:37,150 --> 00:37:40,670 And when I went there, it does, that was the way. 263 00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:42,730 It was still being scary in all the way 264 00:37:42,730 --> 00:37:46,090 from the bottom, because that's the way it can support it. 265 00:37:46,630 --> 00:37:50,470 I don't see, I mean, that break is not reinforced. 266 00:37:50,470 --> 00:37:57,630 I don't, I don't, I don't know any string in here that would satisfy that, but yeah, life right. 267 00:37:57,790 --> 00:38:02,550 Washington is suggesting dust, I think, is a superstructure that's going to come inside. 268 00:38:04,690 --> 00:38:05,470 Which is new. 269 00:38:08,270 --> 00:38:10,930 And you can, you can make a quarter of structure. 270 00:38:12,570 --> 00:38:15,670 Yeah, because you're building on either side, helping to support, 271 00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:24,510 keep it up. So basically it has all its support from the bottom up to be able to hold its its its and to go up that high 272 00:38:24,510 --> 00:38:31,030 much higher than the rest. So that's got basically building a basically building the silver frame 273 00:38:31,630 --> 00:38:37,410 from the base all the way up and then it the floor structure goes above that. It's got all the time. 274 00:38:38,270 --> 00:38:45,330 Can I ask you a specific that the neighbors went on either side so if they chose to add a second layer 275 00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:56,830 at a future time that they could use that structure to help them build on, so it becomes an investment in the, in the, in the second story additions to everyone's building. 276 00:38:57,290 --> 00:38:57,630 Oh, not. 277 00:38:59,090 --> 00:38:59,690 No. 278 00:39:00,510 --> 00:39:01,590 That wouldn't work. 279 00:39:01,890 --> 00:39:03,250 You'd say you would call for me. 280 00:39:06,370 --> 00:39:15,550 Well, that, basically, which is suggestion is he, that he invests his money into, into a potential future support for someone else that may not ever happen. 281 00:39:15,550 --> 00:39:21,050 I've, it'd be exorbitant, it'd be expensive to do that. No, no, no, that's what I mean. 282 00:39:21,050 --> 00:39:23,270 I miss that. I'm sorry. 283 00:39:23,490 --> 00:39:24,510 They all have to be independent. 284 00:39:24,530 --> 00:39:28,430 The only thing I was asking is if they build this structure from the bottom up, you basically 285 00:39:28,430 --> 00:39:33,930 have an a standalone building. Does that benefit Clayton art and the fig tree if they 286 00:39:33,930 --> 00:39:38,430 should want it a later date to add a second floor that they can actually tie into that 287 00:39:38,430 --> 00:39:45,710 build on theirs with their own superstructures too, but it then becomes the start of 288 00:39:45,710 --> 00:39:51,810 a second floor edition project on all of Main Street, for all those little buildings. 289 00:39:53,010 --> 00:39:53,970 But he said no. 290 00:39:54,090 --> 00:39:55,610 I don't have a solution for that. 291 00:39:56,350 --> 00:39:57,810 The solution I have, they can hire me. 292 00:39:57,950 --> 00:39:59,470 We can design something for them. 293 00:40:00,030 --> 00:40:01,870 I have a solution like to see a review. 294 00:40:03,090 --> 00:40:04,690 No, I think no. 295 00:40:11,470 --> 00:40:21,330 I'm not sure how we address the young legislation about the back of the building. I mean, it is what it is and try to fight. 296 00:40:27,020 --> 00:40:31,000 So talking David about camouflaging fire skates? 297 00:40:33,020 --> 00:40:35,040 Yes. But we talked about the debate of the 298 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,820 talking really. Right. Was that doable 299 00:40:36,820 --> 00:40:39,220 that camouflaged the fire skates at the back? 300 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,640 No, we talked about the, they were going to the fire 301 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,680 Marshall mentioned. The fire Marshall mentioned on that 302 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,200 that that we'd be able to keep being improved as to how 303 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,920 the fire skates that wouldn't be on these 304 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,240 point with the allow you fire each person inside the 305 00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:53,880 apartment to have a fire skate ladder that they could 306 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,200 hang over the top of the back to get down. So wouldn't be 307 00:40:58,140 --> 00:41:07,580 Okay, okay, it's not the throw beside a case of a fire, okay, yeah, it's with a scape out the front. 308 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:15,200 Well, they can escape out front or the back because we've designed it with the help back and zone both ends. 309 00:41:17,300 --> 00:41:19,840 Oh, that's very far back units. 310 00:41:22,380 --> 00:41:22,940 That's a back there. 311 00:41:23,140 --> 00:41:25,160 There's a back there out of the rear master. 312 00:41:26,340 --> 00:41:27,880 There's a back there out of the rear master. 313 00:41:28,340 --> 00:41:29,880 And there's a back there out of the front of the building. 314 00:41:30,140 --> 00:41:31,760 So they have, they can do it both ways. 315 00:41:32,220 --> 00:41:34,260 Okay, so are there, then. 316 00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:36,560 Okay, there are two units per floor. 317 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:37,040 That's right. 318 00:41:37,300 --> 00:41:38,360 Okay, that's cool. 319 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,080 So it goes from front to back. 320 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:40,840 I got you. 321 00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:43,120 Okay. 322 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,860 One of the things we really wanted to do is we, 323 00:41:47,020 --> 00:41:48,220 in this perspective option, 324 00:41:48,220 --> 00:41:54,980 we show windows on the side on both sides but it's just dreaming because we know we can't do that 325 00:41:54,980 --> 00:41:58,780 because at some point somebody may be able to next to them and they can't put windows on the side 326 00:41:58,780 --> 00:42:03,480 but we're just showing what it will look like with the hands and we show that in the plan too. 327 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:08,860 Now if he passed the air right on both sides, we're just building windows. That's something we'll have to discuss. 328 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:17,300 You know, guys, something to think about with the height, I get it. It's 47 feet as tall, 329 00:42:17,300 --> 00:42:27,180 certainly would stick out. But if you're on board with a concept of four apartments, two on each 330 00:42:27,180 --> 00:42:33,700 level, and you certainly want the ten foot ceilings as opposed to this eight or nine, 331 00:42:34,740 --> 00:42:39,560 you're automatically looking at 40 feet right there. So you're talking about the difference between 332 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:48,080 40 feet, which you absolutely must have in 47 feet. So, you know, I realize that maybe it's 333 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:52,680 simplifying a little bit much, but kind of puts in perspective a little bit too. 334 00:42:54,580 --> 00:42:55,600 With the beach unit. 335 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:04,160 Well, I mean, they're about to go ahead. They're far, well, down the middle. 336 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,480 So they're about 13 feet, we side. 337 00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:10,080 It's about 13 feet. 338 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,440 I have to look at the plan here. 339 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,540 But he did this. 340 00:43:14,060 --> 00:43:17,540 Just enough to create living room space, bedroom space. 341 00:43:18,500 --> 00:43:20,580 I mean, these are tight units, but they work. 342 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:33,680 So David, when you say, we wanted the ceiling high to be higher. 343 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,640 I thought that was what it was really upon. 344 00:43:37,940 --> 00:43:41,860 That was certainly make a nicer dwelling in a bigger price point. 345 00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:50,710 I think condos like these I think nine feet would be an adequate 346 00:43:52,850 --> 00:43:55,510 and that's where the 347 00:43:55,510 --> 00:44:00,590 that's where we're showing in any way in their plans right like we're not forcing them 348 00:44:00,590 --> 00:44:11,950 still in high. No, no that's okay we've actually done two options one with nine 349 00:44:11,950 --> 00:44:16,250 to see the hikes, the other one with higher chin for ceiling hikes. 350 00:44:16,770 --> 00:44:16,850 Okay. 351 00:44:17,790 --> 00:44:19,990 The chin is definitely appealing for sales. 352 00:44:21,970 --> 00:44:24,910 So nine foot, a lot of it's going to put you at 45 degrees. 353 00:44:26,210 --> 00:44:31,630 Now, I think the biggest, the biggest you for me and for my structural engineers to move 354 00:44:31,630 --> 00:44:37,210 fast is we need to make sure that we can go at step in the building by which we think 355 00:44:37,210 --> 00:44:38,650 everybody agrees that's nice. 356 00:44:38,650 --> 00:44:44,610 and having it at a perfect level of height and not down on the height and not on top of the rules. 357 00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:47,510 Okay, we really what we need to know. 358 00:44:48,530 --> 00:44:51,550 All right, okay. Yeah, that's what I was getting at. 359 00:44:51,670 --> 00:44:59,970 I mean, I think we need to lock that lock thing on on what kind of height we're going to be able to accept or improve recommend basically recommend. 360 00:45:00,850 --> 00:45:30,050 And then, so that you can give moving on, because there is to be a lot of elements, you know, the first aid, the trade, and you have to deal with how we, you know, bring those people out of the building, and we're going to have to add more doors, in this, all the elements that still need to be, you know, looking to, but I think, I'm at the time, myself, so I think the big, the big kids to get the hype. 361 00:45:31,010 --> 00:45:39,730 settle. The foys, the foys, when you, when you, when you, when you put it 362 00:45:39,730 --> 00:45:44,150 into the back, are you talking about only on the front or on both sides? 363 00:45:45,590 --> 00:45:50,090 On, on, on all the on the front, on the building lines up with, in the building lines 364 00:45:50,090 --> 00:46:00,810 up with the sides, all the way back, in the back, in the back, in the back, yeah, 365 00:46:00,810 --> 00:46:08,250 building and if you look, if you step the building back and you go 35 feet high, you know, 366 00:46:08,370 --> 00:46:16,730 from the front and then you go in an angle, 45 degree angle, you probably, you know, you probably 367 00:46:16,730 --> 00:46:23,390 okay with that height probably, we have to see a drum that illustrates that probably on the front. 368 00:46:23,390 --> 00:46:32,370 I do think that looks good, yeah, if you look at, I don't know if you have the pages of 369 00:46:32,370 --> 00:46:38,270 front of you, but A5 point B, then you have the pages in front of you, Mr. Villas, a collaboration. 370 00:46:39,350 --> 00:46:51,090 Yeah, do, or somewhere in the computer, A5 point A5 dot B, that's a page, that's a very 371 00:46:52,090 --> 00:46:56,090 Yeah, that's going to be option B-A-5. 372 00:46:57,470 --> 00:47:01,090 It'll be on the, it'll look like this. 373 00:47:05,230 --> 00:47:07,610 I'll show you. 374 00:47:07,610 --> 00:47:08,890 Even from our last meeting. 375 00:47:09,670 --> 00:47:10,010 I'll show you. 376 00:47:11,710 --> 00:47:11,970 Yeah. 377 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:15,280 I'll show you here. 378 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:16,920 Yeah, so what happens is. 379 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,480 What extra floor are we not? 380 00:47:20,780 --> 00:47:21,740 Say that one time, Bonnie. 381 00:47:28,660 --> 00:47:37,260 you got to see that? Okay, we haven't got the new revised. Yes. Yeah, this is the latest 382 00:47:37,260 --> 00:47:43,320 revised, so this revision is the existing front, this is the paraphrad of the existing front. 383 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:50,020 This is the building sitting back about eight feet back, and that's what you would see from elevation point. 384 00:47:50,860 --> 00:48:01,980 Now, it's still designed, this one's designed to be sitting on top of the roof, so it's a little lower, so our overall height drops about four or five feet. 385 00:48:03,540 --> 00:48:08,840 What he's straight back, and it comes in, it helps with the outcome of the state, from the state of the 43. 386 00:48:10,380 --> 00:48:19,780 Yes, and this overall height is 43 feet five inches, because we're not only set it back, we also set it down on top of the roof, not the parapet. 387 00:48:19,780 --> 00:48:25,120 on the top of the roof, and we'll start our simple structure from there and build around that and go vertical. 388 00:48:26,140 --> 00:48:31,720 That's more difficult because we're forcing us to deal with the existing structure, which is already fragile. 389 00:48:33,380 --> 00:48:34,980 Yeah, but you're creating a new system, right? 390 00:48:37,300 --> 00:48:38,560 Well, yes. 391 00:48:39,620 --> 00:48:45,940 But we have to deal with everything on the sides here, and on the sides here, at the section level. 392 00:48:45,940 --> 00:48:50,680 And when we do our building section, just go clear all this up for you, but that's what this 393 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:51,180 will look like. 394 00:48:52,380 --> 00:48:56,580 Now, let me show you the other drawing of what it would look like from the back of this 395 00:48:56,580 --> 00:48:57,000 option. 396 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,960 Then I'll show you a third drawing would build a sitting up front and not pushed back. 397 00:49:06,060 --> 00:49:07,620 So, this is the rear of the building. 398 00:49:09,580 --> 00:49:15,640 From the bottom all the way up, you have a, from the bottom, you go up and you have railings 399 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:20,200 about 10 feet up off of the terrace level from the Honda building. 400 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:28,600 And then you have the rest of the existing building here, and then above that, thank you so much. 401 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:29,880 That's a lot higher. 402 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:30,840 So let me start over. 403 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:37,140 So this is the lower level, down here, right here, with the terrace we're going to put in 404 00:49:37,140 --> 00:49:38,220 so you can go in from the back. 405 00:49:38,980 --> 00:49:39,820 Then you have a balcony. 406 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,700 This is the main level where we are now. 407 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,620 You'll be able to go out the back of here to go and join views on the back street. 408 00:49:47,220 --> 00:49:53,580 And all this to get revised as a goal is choosing the type of railings and all that to be historic. 409 00:49:54,220 --> 00:49:58,060 Once you get to the top, then the new building starts here, two levels. 410 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:06,800 And these are set back of three or four feet to create voids so that you have shadows and glazing. 411 00:50:07,700 --> 00:50:10,320 But that's the best we could do is line it up, 412 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:15,440 but set it back inside to get the same amount of room inside 413 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,020 without losing square footage. 414 00:50:18,180 --> 00:50:19,760 It's a very difficult problem. 415 00:50:23,460 --> 00:50:25,100 You know what you see up here, 416 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,240 if you see up here is way in the front, 417 00:50:27,620 --> 00:50:28,800 really we shouldn't even show it. 418 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,920 It's way in front at the street level. 419 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,320 This is a back top level maximum. 420 00:50:34,580 --> 00:50:44,980 But you take this back in one, two units on the back, can you lower them closer to where 421 00:50:44,980 --> 00:50:51,220 they exist in, pop and ease instead of rebuilding your property with your brick. 422 00:50:53,630 --> 00:50:59,950 If we do that building height, if we do that, well, because it slopes from front to back, 423 00:50:59,950 --> 00:51:06,310 If we do that, Mars will take the whole floor system out here, the whole ceiling system and create a new floor system. 424 00:51:06,870 --> 00:51:11,170 That's what we try to avoid because if you do that back here, it's like a crochet. 425 00:51:12,010 --> 00:51:15,150 You're scraping the front of the pie to get it to be level. 426 00:51:16,490 --> 00:51:20,730 I know you know what I'm talking about most of you is because it's because it drops further back here. 427 00:51:20,770 --> 00:51:26,350 There doesn't a front. You're going to be like, it's like a pie wedge that you're creating. 428 00:51:27,770 --> 00:51:32,230 It'd make it where it'd be very difficult to do that, it's still maintain the integrity 429 00:51:32,230 --> 00:51:33,010 and the front. 430 00:51:41,170 --> 00:51:43,710 Let me show you a side view, maybe you'd understand it. 431 00:51:47,380 --> 00:51:49,140 You're creating a new floor system, correct? 432 00:51:51,810 --> 00:51:52,690 Yes, sir. 433 00:51:53,770 --> 00:52:01,290 So, if we look down from the side, this is the front street, this is the back. 434 00:52:01,570 --> 00:52:06,290 This is where it drops all the way down in the back, where my hand is here. 435 00:52:06,290 --> 00:52:12,890 This is a lower level way down from here to here is, you know, almost 50 feet or so. 436 00:52:13,370 --> 00:52:19,290 In the front, you're only talking about from the street level here up to here. 437 00:52:20,070 --> 00:52:22,290 I'm sorry, from here up to here. 438 00:52:23,250 --> 00:52:27,430 We're going to street level to here versus great level to here. 439 00:52:28,130 --> 00:52:34,610 So what I'm saying is, if we drop this down to this point where the prophet is back here, 440 00:52:34,610 --> 00:52:42,530 Because it's paired with a slope from here up to here, you then have to shave and cut this part of the floor where you might as well take the floor out. 441 00:52:43,130 --> 00:52:46,730 So we try to move or above the floor with the whole thing. 442 00:52:47,150 --> 00:52:49,530 And we'll start and we'd have to stir being the existing building. 443 00:52:50,130 --> 00:52:54,730 So there'll be some infield with developing our sections, but that's the only way we can see that work. 444 00:52:56,470 --> 00:53:02,650 I think the key is, let us develop those sections and show you how that work, how we support that. 445 00:53:04,070 --> 00:53:15,530 That's my because there's going to be a lot of circulation happens that you have to look into and 446 00:53:20,300 --> 00:53:20,940 I'm in general. 447 00:53:25,530 --> 00:53:28,870 It doesn't, it's not feasible. 448 00:53:28,870 --> 00:53:35,530 then for the client to only put up one floor because then I think we'd be satisfied if you're not 449 00:53:35,530 --> 00:53:42,650 having extra height of that extra floor and you get to add two, two, two unit that are four. 450 00:53:45,150 --> 00:53:52,350 Two is a floor. Wow, I can't do four anymore. He's saying this totally unfeasible to do two 451 00:53:52,350 --> 00:53:56,950 to be able to get a ROI, a returning investment, 452 00:54:01,620 --> 00:54:03,560 to satisfy the high required requirement. 453 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:10,920 What kind of structure is that? What the decisions existing, the existing structure that 454 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:26,040 existing is a wood structure that is a wood structure that's a wood structure that's a wood structure that's 455 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:26,700 process, 456 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:37,100 mine's to get my, oh, no, there, they, they, they have to get it there, based on a Google 457 00:54:37,100 --> 00:54:42,900 picture, I saw, so the practice slopes, and also the roof, the actual roof membrane is actually 458 00:54:42,900 --> 00:54:50,800 slopes towards back, so the structure kind of slopes. So, you know, they're played by lowering the 459 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:56,700 The only way of having to chair out the existing roof training. 460 00:54:58,260 --> 00:55:04,200 We would rule above that roof at the front parapet level and go straight back horizontally. 461 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,100 I understand that's that floor. 462 00:55:09,220 --> 00:55:13,880 That's the issue for me, that on the back. 463 00:55:14,420 --> 00:55:17,240 But in what creates our high degrees right there. 464 00:55:17,240 --> 00:55:23,100 Matt, Matt, I ask you a question Mr. Washington as I'm just looking and listening to what everyone is saying. 465 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:43,660 How, how, how soon would you be able to show us the systems and sections so that we understand, you know, just how you're planning to build it and why maybe even some of the hour suggestions are not working with how you guys plan to build this out so that everyone's on the same page. 466 00:55:43,660 --> 00:55:50,420 I think we can have sections done by Monday, Monday up to noon. 467 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,960 I've been able to email the sections in the further development of the plan, 468 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,940 because we're working on this every day. 469 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,040 I think I may have one potential solution. 470 00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:01,920 One potential solution might be this, 471 00:56:02,940 --> 00:56:03,880 since the roof slopes, 472 00:56:04,700 --> 00:56:08,060 we may be able to go and create steps inside the units 473 00:56:08,060 --> 00:56:12,620 to drop us down another couple feet on the front 474 00:56:12,620 --> 00:56:16,100 And then as you go towards the bed rooms in the back, drop it down another couple of feet 475 00:56:16,100 --> 00:56:18,840 that'll give us four feet, difference height in the back. 476 00:56:19,940 --> 00:56:22,660 But you still need four feet, four feet last time. 477 00:56:24,570 --> 00:56:28,430 It will be approximately four feet lower if we step it inside the units. 478 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,580 That's one for a schedule to do that. 479 00:56:33,300 --> 00:56:36,920 We step it from when you get past the kitchen, we step it down a couple, 480 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:41,100 when you get close to the master bedroom, we step it down two more feet that is. 481 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,340 And two feet would be four steps. 482 00:56:43,340 --> 00:56:46,020 So it's a total of eight steps, 483 00:56:48,540 --> 00:56:58,100 and approximately six steps, the seven-inch steps, can I do this? 484 00:57:00,100 --> 00:57:12,220 The operation I think that, you know, in general, I think we in favor of the development, you know, I think it'll be beneficial if you work a little work all day in 485 00:57:12,220 --> 00:57:14,360 working of how to make the work, 486 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,080 whether the elevator's gonna be, 487 00:57:16,740 --> 00:57:18,660 because not that we care about how the units 488 00:57:18,660 --> 00:57:19,720 are gonna be the inside, 489 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,200 but how you work that out, 490 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,260 gonna affect how you don't get people out, 491 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:31,820 and you may need some fire exterior in there. 492 00:57:32,340 --> 00:57:34,680 You know what I'm talking about about that? 493 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,320 And if our boss was all good with all that, 494 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,080 this is mainly, you guys would like exterior design elements. 495 00:57:42,340 --> 00:57:49,280 Yeah, but I understand that but in the workings of the inside it could impact how the outside is going to play that 496 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,080 So, so that's true 497 00:57:56,180 --> 00:58:02,980 Actually actually I have to just agree with you on that because the elevators are beyond the front glass 498 00:58:02,980 --> 00:58:08,800 So you won't see the elevators from the front side and through the glass 499 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:15,080 But you're going to have a fire exit from the inside of the building to the outside. 500 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,620 So fire means of egress, like you're going to have somebody. 501 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:19,640 That's what we're doing. 502 00:58:20,820 --> 00:58:20,980 Yeah. 503 00:58:21,180 --> 00:58:23,120 Yeah, we talked to the fire much about that. 504 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:28,860 He's got a, he's approved to talk further discussing, allowing us to help the clients 505 00:58:28,860 --> 00:58:33,800 use the stairs to get out in case of the, the ladders that you throw over the balcony 506 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,120 to get out in case of a fire. 507 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:41,100 Because that's the prevailing way it's done in counties around you 508 00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:49,020 So we were trying to you'll do something like that. So you have only excavator and no, no, any other stairwell going up and down 509 00:58:49,380 --> 00:58:56,670 So if the elevator's down, nobody can get in or out and chill that elevator's repair 510 00:58:56,670 --> 00:59:01,410 But if we if we put stairs in it's gonna eat up 511 00:59:02,070 --> 00:59:05,310 Yeah, I don't think, yeah, yeah. 512 00:59:05,310 --> 00:59:11,410 Yeah, I'm saying this because, you know, that's kind of, but, okay, so. 513 00:59:13,090 --> 00:59:15,930 Guys, let me inject something else in here. 514 00:59:16,110 --> 00:59:18,890 The design review as a design board. 515 00:59:20,550 --> 00:59:22,030 It takes some pressure off of y'all. 516 00:59:22,130 --> 00:59:23,990 Yeah, I don't have to approve a height, 517 00:59:24,150 --> 00:59:28,510 but that's put a mayor and council to that's why they made a big buck to decide that. 518 00:59:28,730 --> 00:59:32,150 So, y'all have to sort of have to approve a number for a height. 519 00:59:32,810 --> 00:59:33,250 How 520 00:59:35,780 --> 00:59:38,500 can we best help today? 521 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:45,060 Can you have a suggestion on how we can best help today to move it forward and what else we need? 522 00:59:47,940 --> 00:59:52,420 Well, you've already approved the option to be in terms of the colors in the general design. 523 00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,260 You've had a good input on the field. 524 00:59:55,260 --> 00:59:57,020 If you're sealing the fire, it's good. 525 00:59:57,220 --> 00:59:59,980 But you've also had good input on the front side. 526 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,320 For the patio, so that's all good stuff that's been worked out. 527 01:00:10,670 --> 01:00:25,510 Okay, so then we're so based on Barbara's question, we've satisfied what you guys need from us at this point, with just our vote on the color and the suggestion and the recommendation being. 528 01:00:25,810 --> 01:00:30,970 We're seeing by the architect and the owner of stepping it back. So we're. 529 01:00:30,970 --> 01:00:37,170 I mean, they've cast her lots with the height they want, so to speak. 530 01:00:37,270 --> 01:00:41,250 So that's going to be up to the council and mayor to decide what are they agree or disagree 531 01:00:41,250 --> 01:00:41,770 with that. 532 01:00:41,870 --> 01:00:47,390 And certainly what y'all provided is provided good input is to enhancing the design. 533 01:00:48,190 --> 01:00:48,450 Great. 534 01:00:49,690 --> 01:00:55,890 And then I think that our discussion is that I still have a level of discomfort at the height 535 01:00:55,890 --> 01:01:00,410 that they're proposing and we're trying to help them find a reasonable way to 536 01:01:00,410 --> 01:01:11,970 I wish the same business plan, but yet not throw off the whole aesthetics of Main Street by having a completely two story building put on top of the existing facade. 537 01:01:12,470 --> 01:01:24,050 So for me, my feedback is it's still too tall, and especially when on the broad street, you've actually gone a little even a more extreme to the height because of that. 538 01:01:24,050 --> 01:01:26,810 So the only reason I'm entering into conversation 539 01:01:26,810 --> 01:01:30,130 more was trying to find wind winds. 540 01:01:31,090 --> 01:01:32,830 But it sounds like you're right. 541 01:01:33,110 --> 01:01:34,910 You can are married to the plans, 542 01:01:35,130 --> 01:01:36,830 and you're not willing to take off a floor, 543 01:01:37,270 --> 01:01:39,450 which would keep us within the height constraints. 544 01:01:40,650 --> 01:01:42,230 And also look nice. 545 01:01:43,710 --> 01:01:45,270 So like you said, David, for me, 546 01:01:45,270 --> 01:01:47,110 I think that that's up to the council 547 01:01:47,110 --> 01:01:48,490 to decide those things. 548 01:01:49,250 --> 01:01:49,770 No. 549 01:01:50,330 --> 01:01:53,530 I'll also recommendation as a design review committee 550 01:01:53,530 --> 01:02:09,530 And my recommendation, I mean, my personal obligation, I would like to see, you know, keep the 35 feet on both sides, taking from the street levels or not from the basement level from from from the street levels, particularly on broad street, which should help you because 551 01:02:10,890 --> 01:02:17,010 35 free high, and then you can go 45 degree angle, and then you can state the 552 01:02:17,010 --> 01:02:22,310 verb, whatever you need to accommodate those higher seedings or whatever, that will be my 553 01:02:22,310 --> 01:02:28,150 recommendation and we are having to go into details about things like that. How you want to 554 01:02:28,150 --> 01:02:34,610 accomplish that, I'll be up to you, and you can choose not to do any setback from the front 555 01:02:34,610 --> 01:02:42,030 on the first level, because it meets the 35 field height, but on the second level, they 556 01:02:42,030 --> 01:02:46,730 will may have to be set back a little bit, just to compare with the 45 degree angle rule. 557 01:02:47,050 --> 01:02:52,290 And this is, this is in line with many cities, many, and I'm sure comfortable recommending 558 01:02:53,990 --> 01:02:58,290 that, the, the, the, the, the, the, the consummate, the side otherwise. 559 01:02:59,570 --> 01:03:08,890 I thought you agreed on the set, but we showed it, set it back from the perfect level, back in feet, and then you left the 45. 560 01:03:09,590 --> 01:03:24,350 And that's fine. And your building might be higher, but what I'm saying is that you may already be on the 35 with a 45 degree angle and still comply with 47, 48, 49. So that's what I'm saying. 561 01:03:24,350 --> 01:03:28,150 but we don't have anything to see how it's working, 562 01:03:28,930 --> 01:03:33,290 but that would be my basically 35 free, 563 01:03:35,410 --> 01:03:36,910 and then 45 degree angle, 564 01:03:37,490 --> 01:03:38,870 and whatever height you need it, 565 01:03:38,870 --> 01:03:46,050 to be 47 feet in a still comply with that rule. 566 01:03:46,270 --> 01:03:47,070 You follow me? 567 01:03:47,750 --> 01:03:47,950 No? 568 01:03:49,730 --> 01:03:50,910 So is that your recommendation? 569 01:03:52,090 --> 01:03:53,890 That's what I'll feel comfortable, 570 01:03:53,890 --> 01:03:56,050 recommend because 571 01:03:58,260 --> 01:04:03,780 he's still got plenty to work around those rules and how to make all this 572 01:04:03,780 --> 01:04:07,000 happen and make it work. 573 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:14,580 I think what you say is I think I hear you saying is the way we've shown all the 574 01:04:14,860 --> 01:04:20,660 the stretch where sets back of the paper you like that and that's from the ground level 575 01:04:20,660 --> 01:04:31,780 It has a 45 chamfer, but if you measure it is still, if you measure it, an angle plane is still that I've seen, it's still a bit around 45 feet. 576 01:04:32,220 --> 01:04:34,660 Yeah, yeah, I'm just fine. What are you looking at? 577 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:41,390 Yeah, but it's fine because he said, if you're at the street right here. 578 01:04:42,410 --> 01:04:46,450 If you look at the photos, let me share my screen. 579 01:04:46,450 --> 01:04:54,110 If you look up this way, I'll set it for you, but because the bill says back, I said it back, but he's saying maybe we have to set this second floor. 580 01:04:54,330 --> 01:04:55,510 I'll look at the wall. 581 01:04:57,830 --> 01:05:01,630 Let me show you mine. 582 01:05:02,050 --> 01:05:03,030 You're showing me the screen. 583 01:05:10,130 --> 01:05:12,630 You see this live right here? 584 01:05:12,950 --> 01:05:13,310 Can you see? 585 01:05:13,630 --> 01:05:15,370 Am I showing the screen or not? 586 01:05:17,780 --> 01:05:18,860 This is my screen. 587 01:05:19,540 --> 01:05:20,800 Your screen's favorite. 588 01:05:21,940 --> 01:05:22,460 Oh, no. 589 01:05:23,020 --> 01:05:34,170 How do I? I'm going to like you got like a dome kind of structure here. This is next up. No, I always see as your dick. 590 01:05:34,170 --> 01:05:39,030 My next up. No. I'll say with it now. 591 01:05:39,030 --> 01:05:39,890 Is he enough? 592 01:05:42,410 --> 01:05:45,250 Yeah. So what you're saying is. 593 01:05:46,310 --> 01:05:51,150 I see you sit back. This is what you set me originally. What we did was we did better than that. 594 01:05:51,150 --> 01:05:53,150 We said it back, and we would straight up with it. 595 01:05:53,210 --> 01:05:57,130 We didn't come back over over the scale 50th hand. 596 01:05:57,430 --> 01:05:58,030 And that's fine. 597 01:05:58,190 --> 01:06:00,330 I know over, that's fine. 598 01:06:00,810 --> 01:06:00,970 That's fine. 599 01:06:00,970 --> 01:06:01,230 Yeah, that's fine. 600 01:06:01,390 --> 01:06:02,290 We get that. 601 01:06:02,490 --> 01:06:04,610 Well, I'm saying that you can reclaim all of that 602 01:06:04,610 --> 01:06:06,690 or some of these two if you need to. 603 01:06:06,830 --> 01:06:09,190 And on the back, the same rule. 604 01:06:09,670 --> 01:06:12,310 And that if you go over a couple of feet over here, 605 01:06:12,470 --> 01:06:14,790 like for example here, then you can apply for a variance, 606 01:06:14,970 --> 01:06:16,610 and I think we'll be open for that, 607 01:06:16,970 --> 01:06:17,890 because the majority 608 01:06:20,900 --> 01:06:23,220 may understand this. 609 01:06:23,220 --> 01:06:50,980 So the front we okay with you straight up, but I see all the difference in it. You said it on top of the roof at the front roof. We dropped it down to the top of the roof and then it goes straight back, but keep in mind the roof slopes continually. So that we still infield there. So that's why you got your difference in height at the blue versus the top. Yes. And this is now moving the pan to move your screen to the back of the building. 610 01:06:53,860 --> 01:06:54,520 This is the back. 611 01:06:55,540 --> 01:06:58,600 Look, we're at the front now. Can you go to the back section? 612 01:06:59,220 --> 01:07:02,840 This is the front. Can you pan to the back? 613 01:07:03,660 --> 01:07:05,500 You see this is great. 614 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:06,760 For all to the back. 615 01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,260 Scroll to the back. 616 01:07:08,780 --> 01:07:10,280 The black side view. 617 01:07:10,700 --> 01:07:11,320 I just, I know. 618 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:11,540 Thank you. 619 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,260 So that one. 620 01:07:15,020 --> 01:07:16,020 What's the only thing? 621 01:07:16,260 --> 01:07:20,040 I think what Barbara's concerned was in terms of the height. 622 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,480 If we could somehow set it back and get some variance there. 623 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,300 Bonnie, Bonnie's concerned. 624 01:07:25,820 --> 01:07:27,320 Bonnie, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Bonnie. 625 01:07:28,900 --> 01:07:34,680 I don't see, I'm having a hard time with that one, because that directly affects the size of the units inside. 626 01:07:34,860 --> 01:07:36,500 And it's going to take some square footage out. 627 01:07:36,780 --> 01:07:39,020 We already limited to a small unit as it is. 628 01:07:39,260 --> 01:07:42,540 I mean, it would literally make the bedroom unusable at the master bedroom. 629 01:07:47,260 --> 01:07:50,020 So I don't know how we get past that impact. 630 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:55,580 Now, sitting it down from where we handed up here on the private level to this level, 631 01:07:55,580 --> 01:08:01,880 way you have the lower level with the scale figure is. Essentially we have to take the ceiling 632 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:08,220 out just read that that become the bottom of our four system and just do it that way which 633 01:08:08,220 --> 01:08:14,280 we can make work but is more specific for the owner to do it that way. But it helps with the height 634 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:20,860 that Bonnie was concerned about. So the whole height restrictions will we all sort of fight in here. 635 01:08:33,260 --> 01:08:52,380 I think the other thing is, I think there has to be compromise. I think there has to be compromise because also the decision is on city council as it relates to the variance and if the applicant is saying we're willing to work with the height on the front end, we can accommodate the back end, based upon we still need to be able to see. 636 01:08:52,380 --> 01:08:55,820 to make the return back. I think that's the reasonable accommodation. 637 01:08:56,380 --> 01:08:59,820 Yes, it is. Very much so. 638 01:08:59,980 --> 01:09:03,060 Ricky, I didn't think that you were selling them. I thought they were apartments. 639 01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:08,860 My apartments, you still got to make money off of them. Even if it's a dollar rent per day, 640 01:09:08,980 --> 01:09:11,480 you still got to make money off them. I repraved it. 641 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,960 The owner has to make back his original investment on this property. 642 01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,900 We want to help him do that. 643 01:09:20,460 --> 01:09:22,300 And the very successful. 644 01:09:24,530 --> 01:09:27,050 And while I do think it's a good thing, 645 01:09:27,310 --> 01:09:30,090 I do think the overwhelmingly 646 01:09:30,090 --> 01:09:32,550 if there is an issue that the HID or a pitch, 647 01:09:32,950 --> 01:09:34,790 that it would be on your main street, 648 01:09:34,930 --> 01:09:36,850 I do not know if that's the same argument. 649 01:09:37,290 --> 01:09:39,230 A broad street and what I also don't know 650 01:09:39,230 --> 01:09:41,130 is if we get in front of Mayor and Council 651 01:09:41,130 --> 01:09:42,790 if the decision is going to be, 652 01:09:42,790 --> 01:09:44,710 if we are marketing the downtown district, 653 01:09:45,790 --> 01:09:48,390 revitalization efforts as it relates to getting them to the pitch. 654 01:09:48,590 --> 01:09:49,630 If Mayor and Council is going to say, 655 01:09:49,710 --> 01:09:50,690 we're going to set the standards 656 01:09:50,690 --> 01:09:53,370 because we want to ensure that we're able to get the templates 657 01:09:53,370 --> 01:09:56,330 sellers for these other developments that may or may not come. 658 01:09:56,650 --> 01:09:59,510 Because you'll limit it on space as far as I'm going to. 659 01:09:59,570 --> 01:10:02,110 Absolutely. And I would like to make a recommendation 660 01:10:02,110 --> 01:10:04,030 that the council decide that on the height. 661 01:10:04,070 --> 01:10:05,550 That is within their firm view. 662 01:10:05,930 --> 01:10:08,290 And I think we've given, you know, our thoughts here. 663 01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:12,430 And I agree, Barbara. 664 01:10:12,610 --> 01:10:16,990 I think that we've given our input on what we think it will look like 665 01:10:16,990 --> 01:10:18,570 based on the information that we have, 666 01:10:18,710 --> 01:10:21,370 but the actual height restrictions are up to the city council. 667 01:10:21,370 --> 01:10:34,030 And we've just been trying to find win-win so that they can accomplish their business goals at the same time within what this little strip of his historic Jonesboro looks like, right? 668 01:10:35,650 --> 01:10:44,330 And then what's on the staff perspective, what we'll do, if council is angry with whatever that hide is that maximum hide is again we want scale. 669 01:10:44,910 --> 01:11:10,370 Whatever that maximum idea is, then we're going to come back and present drawing to the design review committee and say, Hey, look, this is what the hide is, can none of us do anything about it. That's why there are the legislative bodies. This is what it looks like. And if we go all the way down right now, we're just comparing apples to orange is because the building will be standing beside nothing at that level. But if we have the opportunity to develop air rights to all of these buildings, this is what it will look like at that scale. 670 01:11:11,570 --> 01:11:15,850 Yeah, and I'm personally looking at from, if everybody does the same thing. 671 01:11:16,530 --> 01:11:21,050 We just, my, I just wanted to, to, 672 01:11:24,030 --> 01:11:26,810 my recommend, can we be David off to the console? 673 01:11:29,010 --> 01:11:37,730 And I would like to, I mean, 35 degrees with a 45 degree angle thing make that work as 674 01:11:37,730 --> 01:11:38,650 as you can. 675 01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:40,530 And I believe that there will be 676 01:11:40,530 --> 01:11:42,410 made the buildings and high flats 677 01:11:42,410 --> 01:11:44,770 that they're more economical in the city, 678 01:11:45,850 --> 01:11:49,330 because believe me, one, two, three, three feet higher. 679 01:11:49,710 --> 01:11:51,530 You know, impact the cost dramatically 680 01:11:51,530 --> 01:11:55,030 once you start dealing with the stair requirements and all that. 681 01:11:55,550 --> 01:11:59,490 So, and also, I think that it's nice to be developed further 682 01:11:59,490 --> 01:12:02,210 so that you look at all these moving elements 683 01:12:02,210 --> 01:12:05,230 so that, you know, because in my impact, they're outside. 684 01:12:09,430 --> 01:12:14,330 So one of the things I'll also share with you, so I had the opportunity to speak with Mr. 685 01:12:14,450 --> 01:12:19,490 Washington and see some of Mr. Washington working. I'm not going to show you that from what I've seen in 686 01:12:19,490 --> 01:12:24,230 Amaging and being ready to say that or is saying like he's been doing architecture work for the most part. 687 01:12:25,650 --> 01:12:25,890 Sure. 688 01:12:26,410 --> 01:12:29,230 Talk about that. We're excited to have you. 689 01:12:30,050 --> 01:12:31,050 Thank you. 690 01:12:31,050 --> 01:12:32,550 Where needs it? 691 01:12:34,220 --> 01:12:41,200 So we're glad to be, we're glad to be able to come up with something so quickly. 692 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:43,920 We're literally working on this project every day. 693 01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:49,260 So I would say about the Monday afternoon, we will have building sections developed, 694 01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:53,440 so you can, I think it can give you a better relationship idea of the building, 695 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:55,300 to the units, to the ground. 696 01:12:56,280 --> 01:13:01,120 I would do all I can to come up with a solution for the rear, 697 01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:05,340 that'll be more satisfactory. We'll do the best we can. But I think that the steps 698 01:13:05,340 --> 01:13:09,040 section is key how we can do it. Save as in a way to drop stairs inside 699 01:13:10,140 --> 01:13:17,080 to allow for the units to look smaller from the back. But that creates challenges on the roof. 700 01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:23,200 They were going to have step roofs. Everything creates a challenge. So we just have to see 701 01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:28,120 as you know, Mr. Venus. Yeah. But yeah, but I mean, 702 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:39,460 But online, we open for the development and we are the other day, you know, the community is going to be looking at this building and this development and we wanted to be beautiful as well as financially feasible. 703 01:13:40,620 --> 01:13:43,940 So, I mean, just how this time works, you know. 704 01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:46,140 So. 705 01:13:46,140 --> 01:13:46,240 Okay. 706 01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:47,680 Yeah. 707 01:13:47,860 --> 01:13:48,600 So we're with you. 708 01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:50,180 We're there. 709 01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:56,340 I think when you see our next series of developments over the next few days. 710 01:13:56,340 --> 01:14:02,080 I think in a shed, even more light, I think you may be even more in line with what we're talking about here. 711 01:14:02,220 --> 01:14:06,340 What do the best of you in to make it closer to the recommendations you have? 712 01:14:07,620 --> 01:14:10,820 So, obviously, you guys have put a lot of work into this too. We appreciate it. 713 01:14:11,060 --> 01:14:11,360 Yeah. 714 01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:14,960 So, thank you so much. 715 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:17,720 Thank you. 716 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:18,520 Thank you. 717 01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:20,080 So, 718 01:14:25,180 --> 01:14:28,620 what I was going to be our decision here? 719 01:14:28,620 --> 01:14:29,000 decision. 720 01:14:31,130 --> 01:14:34,670 Yeah. I recommendation. So I have up to the council. Go ahead, David. 721 01:14:36,210 --> 01:14:41,250 That you go ahead. My recommendation is to pass it to Council to make the decision on the height. 722 01:14:41,390 --> 01:14:46,670 We've made our, you know, recommendations, put our thoughts out there and I think they can do that and help them give you forward. 723 01:14:50,380 --> 01:14:53,120 And you're going to option B on the color. 724 01:14:56,700 --> 01:14:59,660 Yes, the darker one, the darker one. Yes, the darker one. Yes, the darker one. Yes, the dark, low facade. 725 01:15:06,020 --> 01:15:11,780 Is that your motion, Barbara? Is my motion, aye, 726 01:15:17,700 --> 01:15:25,040 aye, aye, any opposed? All right. That's the motion. So we put down to the 727 01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:33,760 cop poured their decision and we okay we just we just made our comment you know we don't 728 01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:39,880 have any recommendations or so all right 729 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,120 may I make the motion to adjourn or that's right 730 01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:51,420 that's right any second I second it all the papers say aye 731 01:15:54,270 --> 01:15:55,910 then you're both great okay 732 01:15:55,910 --> 01:16:19,920 Thank you very much and look forward to it. Thank you all. Thank you so much.