After public comment, probably?
It's a very good idea to tell me.
It's a very easy.
I found out after it's a good message.
Yeah, I see him here.
Thank you.
Oh, God.
It's one.
Oh, I'm here.
I've got to call me like an hour ago.
This is up right.
Good, do you usually have to say down?
Okay, seven o'clock. We'll go and call the meeting order. First item is the pledge of allegiance.
We'll
have a comment on agenda items only, anyone that's got public comment on agenda items
presented tonight, you have five minutes, just state your name and address, any comments
on agenda items going once?
I look
cordray address of 25-04 Highway K-18 Johnson City Kansas.
Thank you and I'd like to speak about the zoning of my property.
It is commercial zone right now and we are asking for it to be residential.
Where's your property?
I didn't see it.
New business.
Six C.
No worries.
Thank you.
You're good.
That's all.
Yeah.
Do you have any comments?
What do you want to talk about that subject?
I need it to go back to the commission for further consideration.
I don't know why we are commercial property.
There's only access.
One access off of the K-18.
K-DOT won a lot more access.
The high road behind got shut down because your gas line is completely abandoned.
It's all broken up between all eight lots and for some reason,
I don't know why, we're still residential.
We're still commercial, but you want to change it to residential.
Correct.
It's a house of single family dwelling that's been there since 1962.
It's been used as a resident since 1962.
So Zones already pushed this to the big question on this out or not?
So we had a hearing on April 2nd, the planning commission is making a recommendation
tonight.
I am actually going against the border and I'm going to be asking that to be sent back to the planning commission.
We got some other information after the fact of the hearing and I believe the planning commission needs to hear it so they can make an accurate just.
Okay. What was the board's recommendation?
They they denied the recommendation for.
To make it to make it presidential.
How long have you lived there?
Oh, since September of 2012.
There's a church, then a single family residence, then a tin shed business, then our house.
We have another acre, and then there's another gentleman up on the hill.
They're all broke up.
I mean, if there was something that was going to have to be there, they would end up having to buy everybody out,
or it just couldn't be a big commercial development,
especially with the access of how the property comes in.
I mean, there's only that one road,
right after that stop light, right over the hill,
it's not really a good spot to have a access.
I understand why I paid out,
won't allow something bigger or, you know.
Sounds like there's more to the story
in a Mr. Strack and guess, we're working on that.
So it's gonna be sent back to the board
for further determination.
Thank you, guys. That's what that's what he's going to be able to discuss that to us.
That's what he's going to bring to us. Okay. Thank you, guys. Thank you.
Thank you. And just for the commission to be aware by statute, if they make a recommendation,
the commission can adopt it by a majority vote.
Or if you want to override it, you have to override it by a two, third authority.
Or by a majority, you can just send it back to them for further findings.
And then by your next meeting, I'll have to hear it and then sit back to you with where
refinedings recommendations they make.
So you're saying we can't just send it back as well.
You can.
But then when it comes.
But the thing is, is to override their recommendation.
You have to have a four out of five basically vote in favor of that.
Gosh.
And so that's why those are your different options by statute.
Oh, because it has to do it.
So Mr. Freckman's recommendation can be send it back.
And then when it comes back in front of you, after they rehear it, you can vote by
majority of the way you want to vote.
Thank you.
Any other public comment on agenda items only?
Please state your name and address sir.
That was my address of 735 Westburg since I just said the Kansas.
I'm trying to get to know all this is what we got.
Shooting a bow and I can see it.
I don't think that's an agenda in tonight's sir.
This will be discussed under public comment.
Public comment at the end of the day.
Okay.
He will get a chance to speak but not yet.
That's it.
It's a lot of part of the meeting.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
No worries.
This will be interesting.
Did you sign up?
Did you sign in tonight to do that?
Come on down.
All right.
I'm here to make comment on the special use permit application.
I believe it is in the agenda item or my here at the wrong time as well.
Yes, I think it is.
Okay.
Sounds good.
So again, as I said, here through from Gramwich properties.
here to speak on behalf of our new tenants who have applied for this special use permit to bring in a new tattoo
parlor business to town. So, as two tattoo artists come in from San Antonio, Texas area, they've got a pretty significant
following through military ties there. And I guess that with that military, with that two business,
people find an artist that they're really good with, they want to continue to work with them.
So enough of their clientele has moved to the region, they'd like to come and open up a shop.
And so, again, contacted me, we have a building open, because of the zoning for that, obviously it has to go through, had to go through a special use permit.
I don't know if you guys have heard get or what kind of right up you get, but it did go through the BCA for consideration was ultimately turned down.
Do to our short-sightiness, we were not present at that BZA meeting, and so there was a significant presence through the neighboring property, which was the next step dance studio.
They definitely mobilized their parents to go and speak against the approval of this because they were not in favor of the business next to theirs.
I don't believe that it was given fair consideration for a few reasons.
One, I feel it was a bit disingenuous that the people that were there against it,
I believe that a substantial percentage of those already have tattoos,
so to feel like that's a negative business to have next to you.
I don't feel like that's accurate,
and then, sorry, let's must spot, additionally there
are some significant number of other special use, or not special uses of businesses that
are permitted based on the zoning there.
For example, drinking establishment, gun shop, or self-service laundry, so would we consider
that any of those uses are more compatible with a dance studio next door than a tattoo shop.
I would argue that customers going inside getting a tattoo and a closed building,
you know, that's less subtrusive than a lot of the permissible alternatives that could be going into that shop.
that building. I have spoken with the applicants that the business owners are trying to open up here.
They've expressed that they do not allow any loitering outside of the front of their shop,
so that wouldn't be a concern. Again, they're out of Texas, so they're unable to be here,
so I'm just speaking on their behalf a little bit.
So the, sorry, the nature of
Get studio participants tend to be minors unable to drive themselves to and from they get dropped off by a parent by a guardian
Typically my daughter went there as well. You drop your kid off. You stay you watch. You pick them up when you go
So these kids are ushered in and out of this business. So even if they're working, sir, they are
Shep around in and out of this business. And so
Another concern it was brought up when this failed to go through the VCA.
There was a parking concern brought up.
It doesn't.
The tattoo shop doesn't inherently take excessive parking.
And so I don't see how it would be a concern unless the opposition's goal is to preserve
all the parking for some other use and not allow us to have any other business ability.
So I don't see that as being a concern.
We also have a private parking lot next to the dance studio that's available for their use.
And those two buildings are the only two buildings on that entire block.
So they actually have less of a parking restriction in the majority of our downtown.
So a couple of last things, we have the, we have set of precedents that we allow tattoo
parlors. So I'll wrap it up. We allowed tattoo parlors. We've allowed two down
town already, one over off 18th, all under the same special use permit procedure.
Similarly, there's that, you know, Marshall Arts Studio, DF Studio downtown. This isn't a
different circumstance. So, in closing, I would ask that you go ahead and vote to
allow the tattoo shop, special use permit, that we do not send it back to the BZA because
ultimately it would have to come back to this board or final approval even if it were approved
by the BZA. So thank you for your time.
I have a question.
Mr. Francis, the first tattoo farmer in juncture city is located in the strip center right
by where your office is correct.
Right. Have you had any trouble outside that tattoo partner? Many years you've and right now I see it's moved down to the corner. Right.
But how long have you been there in that area? So I've been here now.
About 20 years have worked here. You've ever seen any fights outside the time.
I've never had a fight to my knowledge, I've seen any activity where there was need for them to be called out.
You couldn't put me on that maybe it's happened at some point, but you know that can happen ball-marter anywhere else
We're outside of the Institute
Right exactly
When you got fighting parents, yeah, it happened
We have a city commissioner in the same strip. I don't think we had to worry about it
Other businesses
You
Redthate to
Looks like a floral shop
What's there? What else is there?
We have a floral shop for a long time.
There was first national and exchange bank.
The flower shop.
Movie theater.
Yeah.
Movie theater across the way.
A couple of hairs.
Salons.
Extreme store.
For a minute.
There was a county.
County office there.
It was a youth.
The recruiting clinic is there.
Yep.
Air Force recruiting office.
Armed forces had a place there.
Yeah.
That's the Air Force.
No.
It was significant number.
and it's not a situation where it's good for the, and not for me,
I haven't right next to me, my kids come in and out of there,
I've never felt unsafe, never felt like that's many concern.
Thank you.
Tattoo Park was used to be a legal engine,
and the City Commission passed an ordinance, and years ago,
and allowed the first tattoo part to go in that strip center,
where now located, it's just moved a little bit.
True.
My question is for our city attorney, so if we were to vote on this and we, that we get
into that conflict, like we got into with the automotive shop that wanted to go in or the,
not necessarily because if you, if you vote on it, is this one coming to you to a special
use? Because there are other commercial zoning areas where it's conditional you, or the BCA could
just done it on their own, because of the nature of the zoning here that's not conditional
use or this kind of commercial zoning under our current zoning code. So what it is, that's
why it's before you. Now, since the recommendation is to deny you'd have-
To have a two-thirds majority or more to vote in favor of allowing it, we'll be surprised to ask in
behalf of branch properties. If you wanted to deny it, invite some of the majority of you just
accept their recommendation or you can send it back to the BZA for further findings that
comes back. And then back in front of you, it's going to have to anyway, whatever way you vote,
the pre-war tonight is by some of the majority, but the special use and now one was
additional.
Yeah, this is a totally different.
This is a process where it comes here for a final decision, the other one, the city
ordinances provided for that lower board to make the final decision.
Okay.
I may.
They're in Texas, right?
Yes.
I think that the guy that came to see me knew up through that one day about the permit.
He was opening, he was from San Antonio, he was opening up a tattoo shop.
The two gentlemen opening, it's Caesar, kind of is all this.
Very fictional guy, very nice guy.
That'd be very nice guy.
I feel the same.
Thank you.
Any other public comment on agenda items?
Going once?
Going twice.
So, consent agenda any questions for staff?
Yeah, I'd like to take items I and Jay often just have an explanation of change order for the water system repairs for the country club lane, six inch line, and also the other change order for the wastewater treatment
change order.
letter I is Ray that's the go ahead you want to talk about the water line you're putting in.
Mr. Mayor commissioner's item why is the a change order that we did for country
cuddling because we're doing that as part of the street minutes project that lines broken
at least four or five times in the last two years and for us to make that repair before they
went and build an overlay and I think but we went to prior commission and we brought that
before you and I think you guys are agreed on that, do that.
So is that the country club lane and the other part of country club is all scheduled for the street repair?
Correct.
With Eisenhower, Eisenhower worked drive Eisenhower's social country club lane and country club terrors are all in that 25 street maintenance.
So this will go all the way up the hill.
Then to the right, as you go ahead.
I think Country Club terms know it over like this was where that connection point is right there I believe
just before the housing authority. This is that connection and this is that piece of section that breaks all the time.
Why is it break? Excuse me. Why is it break?
Just the pipe. Sometimes it's this well-conditioned. Sometimes the pipes hold certain things that happen to it.
We have those issues with these pipes sometimes because it's been there quite a few years.
Is that a PVC?
We use and we utilize in PVC?
Dr. Lyon is what worked out.
Dr. Lyon, Dr. Lyon.
Dr. Lyon, Dr. Lyon is not that old street?
Why would it be?
No, I mean, but when you have a sore condition sometimes,
cause problems with the Dr. Lyon.
And so that's why, and where is it then, and sometimes the pressures and the type of things,
that the tuberculent inside that pipe causes you some issues.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
And then item J, as part of the contract for the wastewater treatment, the contract allowed
for allowance of a million dollars to any kind of change orders that might be coming
forth because they didn't want to delay the project, because some of these parts that
they've ordered takes a long time and that if it's one of those things where you have
to be by American Act and some of these parts take a long time to get so they didn't want
hold up that project, but it was built into the contract for a million-dollar allowance.
Well, this is a deduction.
This is a deduction.
Right.
But it was a deduction.
Well, that's not a cost.
But it's part of that allowance.
Say it in money.
Right.
So it's, you can bring those into, right.
And that's why I put on the consent agenda.
It's a deduction at our cost.
You think we would oppose that?
Say it again.
Do you think we would oppose a deduction?
You might.
Very funny.
Thank you.
All right, thank you.
Any other questions about the consent agenda as presented?
I'll make a motion that we have brought the consent agenda as presented.
Nice second time.
The move that second is ready for their discussion.
All of their motion respond by saying aye.
Follow post-same sign.
Motion carries.
We have two proclamations.
First proclamation is for the peace officers of Memorial Day and police week.
We're as the Congress of the United States by a resolution passed in October 1962,
designated May 15 each year as peace officers of Memorial Day, and the week in which
the 15th falls as police week, and we're as all just city police officers currently serve
our community combat in crime and a general public on a daily basis.
And we're as the safety and well-being of the citizens of this community, we're in the hands
of these dedicated law enforcement personnel, and we acknowledge the importance of their
important to their pursuit of justice.
Now, therefore, I, Pat Land,
is Mayor of the City of Justice City
to hear by proclaim May 15, 2025,
peace officer's memorial day,
and May 11th through the 17th, 2025 as police week.
Yeah, what do you know?
All right.
Next, we have, so you'll just see a proclamation
for National Public Works Week, May 18 through 24, 2025.
Whereas public work services provided in our community
an integral part of the system every day live and whereas the support of an understanding
and an informed citizenry is vital to the efficient operation of public work systems and
programs such as water supply, sewer, streets, and highways, public buildings and
solid waste collection and whereas the health, safety and comfort of this community
greatly depends on these facilities and services and whereas the quality and effectiveness
of these facilities as well as their planning, design and construction are vitally dependent
upon the efforts and skill of public works officials, and we're as the efficiency of the qualified
and dedicated personnel at the staff of public works departments and materially influenced by
the people's attitude and understanding of the importance of the work that they perform.
Whereas the year 2025 marks a 65th annual national public works week sponsored by the American Public
Now, therefore, I Pat Lannis, Mayor of the City of Jackson City.
You hereby proclaim the week of May 18th through 24 or 225
National Public Works Week in Jackson City.
And call upon all citizens and civic organizations
to equate themselves with the work and services
in which our public work staff provides.
They recognize the contributions which are staff and officials
make every day and bringing and providing safe,
efficient quality public services.
No,
we got a special presentation about a Gerald Trimble, or Gerald Trimble, of the planning manager
of Flint Hills, Metropolitan Planning Organization on EV Readiness.
Welcome.
Thank you.
Good evening, commissioners.
I hope you got a chance to look at this.
I'm going to go through this fairly quickly.
I'm going to have seen this once or more already.
I just wanted to update you.
We have finished this plan.
So to start,
to start, I will turn it on.
on
button. All right, now we're going.
Nope.
This is set to mouse instead of
sorry.
We're updating the system in here.
It's user error.
All right, thank you.
Okay.
Are these the slides or the PowerPoint?
That's the PowerPoint that I have.
What do you do?
Okay, interesting.
I mean, it's just the slides, but...
Usually there's animation, but that's okay.
I just want to be clear, this report and the MPO,
we are not pushing or putting electric vehicles.
All, this is not an action plan, this is shall do this.
We should be doing this, really just to gauge where our region is that today,
and what we can do to be ready if and when EVs become a major player in our region,
which they are not right now.
Three main categories of vehicles, light utility vehicles, all of us drive day to day,
agriculture, heavy trucking. The focus of the plan is on light vehicles. The focus
at the national level is on light vehicles. They pretty much said the heavy stuff
will be at a later time. That's according to the US blueprint for transportation decarbonization.
Any types of electric vehicles, plug in hybrid electric vehicles, and then battery electric vehicles.
We all call electric vehicles the battery electric vehicle. That's what we're talking about again.
the focus. Charging infrastructure, there are three levels of charging. Level one charging is just
like plugging in a vacuum in your home straight into at 120 volt. Level two and level three are
what this plan focuses on. Level two, you can see there takes, you know, two to eight hours to charge
your vehicle. People put them and they install them outside of businesses and their homes and so on.
Level three is also known as the best charging or best fast charge take, you know, 15 to 40 minutes to charge
Most of your vehicle, 150 miles and 15 minutes is the Tesla
These are more of a gas station sort of things. You're not going to be installing a level three charger in your home
I suppose you could but you would not
ever gee has something that I know
which under city has it demand pricing.
If you want to use it, you pay for it.
You are on one of the four plans on the bottom.
The summer peak plan, time there,
which I am signed up on, has very cheap power for some of the time,
and also as the most effective residential rates
that every G offers, and you can see that on the left of the level two.
So if you charge over night in the morning,
it's going to cost you four cents a kilowatt hour.
If you want to charge on the summer after noon, 100 degrees,
you can do it but it's going to be 24 cents per kilowatt hour. Now, level three is not
programmed. Level three charging, these are charges that are on the world. They are market
weight. They are whatever demand is pulling on the grid, you're going to pay. They set a price
live. So, you could pay as little as you know, 10 cents or you could pay 60 per kilowatt hour.
It's whatever is being pulled on the grid. So, we just talked about demand pricing, demand pricing
is incredibly effective on influencing when people charge, and so 80 to 90% of charging is done at night at home.
But just 10% or 10 to 15% on average is done outside.
And the other thing that's key here is that these even level 2 and level 3, these are using AI, they're smart chargers.
So when places where they have a big concern is, well, what if everyone plugs all their electric vehicles at once?
Like, what if a large apartment complex, all of a sudden everyone was driving EVs, what's going to happen?
Well, there are places where this is happening, and so basically the charger knows I've got 20 cars charged charging right now
I have until this time overnight to charge them. They require this many kilowatt hours and
leveling things out and so it's not just plugging everything straight into the wall and pulling all this power
it is manipulating the local grid to do so.
Day-to-day driving we've all been doing the gas station. You know we all have most of us have gas vehicles
Does anyone here have an electric vehicle?
I have a high British car.
I just bought one too.
I didn't buy the electric vehicle.
I don't have one.
But we've all been driving gas vehicles for a long time.
And we all know how it works.
You get up Monday morning.
For example, the car's empty.
You filled up with the gas station.
You drive it for a few days, four or five days until you have to fill up and great.
That's the gas station model.
That's how we've lived the last 120 years.
EVs day to day are not that.
You wake up.
It's charged.
you drive it, you plug it back in at night, you wake up in charge. It is a cell phone, it is
a cell phone model. Range anxiety is a huge concern, but most people, not a big deal, especially
for those people that have them.
Longer trips, it's a different story. We all know how we drive when gas is the same thing
in the day-to-day. But with EVs, you wake up in charge, you go as far as you can, and then
there are level three fast chargers out there, I guess, there are other places to top you off
So you get home.
It's worth noting that over 95% of trips and nights
dates are under 100 miles.
Evied range.
Last year, the average electrical vehicle had 284 miles of range
that includes low wind, some low wind, like Nissan
leaves and things of that nature.
You can see here that mileage on most newer vehicles is much higher.
Maintenance is a huge thing.
The old one vehicles, they're expensive.
According to AAA, the average maintenance on an
$1452 a year in 2024. EVs on average are 30% less, the main reason for that are just less components to
wrong. The powertrain has 200 parts compared to 1,400 in a gas vehicle. This is the less to make pain.
Simple graph here, the bottom line, there's less things, there's no spark plugs, there's no time e-belts, there's no valves, there's all these things.
Tires are more expensive. They require special processes to make. They require EVs are incredibly powerful, so they have to handle that torque, all these sorts of things.
Not only do they cost 30% or they also only last for about 30,000 miles on average, less if you're extremely aggressive driver with all that power it's easy, but on average about 30,000.
So I plotted out here how much it cost you over the life span of your vehicle of 150,000 miles.
So regular gas vehicle, you know, you change about 50, you change about 100.
There was a thousand dollars for the set.
You've spent 2,000 bucks.
You can see the difference, 2,000 to 5,200.
The 30% less is including these costs.
And tires are the major costs.
Talking with some automotive folks the other day from Little Apple Honda Toyota, that we're at.
This higher past career thing.
They basically said other than tires. There is no maintenance. So, very cheap thing to you.
What did it talk about new vehicle sales? I mentioned they're not a big deal in our region yet, but there were 78 million vehicles sold across the world last year,
22 vehicles. The United States accounted for just under 16 million of those, and we were 8% electric, but China sold 31 million vehicles. They were at 41%.
And locally, Kansas sold 88,000 of those 78 million.
In our three county region, we were about to maybe 3% electric.
Before last year, which, by the way, 2% was the highest we'd ever been as you can see on the graph on the right bottom right.
But before that, when we were less than that, there were already over 200 and the region, most of them were in Manhattan, about 200 of them in Manhattan.
Kansas City, though last year was a six, seven percent
luxury vehicles.
And the point of this is that we're not Kansas City,
we're not California, we're not China, we're the Flint Hills
area, but again, we're doing this report to look and see
where we're at and what's coming.
And the other thing is we would like to accommodate people
that are coming to our city, our cities, and also profit
from them, you know, if they're coming, let's make money.
If they're passing by us, let's have them stop here instead
of enabeling, which has a bunch of charging fast DC fast chargers.
This is where the charges are located in the region.
This is an outdated map.
There is one public charger in Junction City now, down on South Washington, at the pharmacy
it is available.
It's a level two.
The other thing that we had heard the hospital had a level two charger installed for
doctors that come in.
I contacted them that is no longer accurate, but they do have a hookup for doctors to
So folks coming in from outside are looking
I'm pretty sure you guys fall suit with every other
governing body we've talked to you have no interest in operating the private enterprise the
goal here is to see what we can do. Again if it's a private business push what can we do to make it easy to do.
So right now we have 20 stations not very many we have that's a level two not a ton not a ton of
We have three level three chargers. Those are all in the Manhattan area at Cardio or
Yeah, does anybody done analysis?
I mean, I don't like to count everything out, but is anybody done an analysis off of margin is for those chargers in Manhattan or anywhere else?
No, but we did get data from evergy last week
evergy
three or four chargers in Manhattan
on public property that they own. I did get used to rates from them, but I don't know what the profit is
But the profit margin, they didn't mention that.
Well, that'd be skewed because they provided the power.
So they, yeah, they've been there for free.
But that was the interesting, if you could find out what, yeah.
It's quite honestly, it's so new everywhere that we don't have that information.
I can ask around for it.
I'd like to know it as well.
We are going to, we do have some metrics.
We are, we can do, okay, yeah, please check it out.
Because I want to counter down.
I mean, if I'm making things city, I mean, lower time.
I mean, anything, I work.
I have trouble believing that the level 3 charges are making money in our level 2 potentially.
I will say the ones of one, the two and one me go, one is owned by the electric cooperative
there, blue stem, but one is owned by ironclad, which is the little popping of all over to use it.
So we did some GIS analysis, bottom line here is the dark of the color, the more primalocation
for electrical charges, and so here's junction cities, zoomed in specifically and you can
off a chestnut, and in the high 70, for the level 2 charges alone would be the ideal location
in the commercial on 6th street by the dealin.
We also did a level 3, these year long range trips.
Without doubt, the number 1 destination, where the level 3 charges should go in the entire
region, on chestnut, or ash, maybe even south Washington, off of ice, without doubt.
I won't get into it, but there is federal legislation, well, I will get into it.
Center legislation through bill, dictated the nevy program, that dictates that there be a level
three-fash charger, every alternative corridor across the nation within every 50 miles.
I-70 is an alternative fuel corridor.
There are a bunch in the abling, and there is some of Maple Hill, and they're very well
could be some going in at K99 by Alma.
Even if they do go in at Alma, Alma to abling is 52 miles.
By law of the federal government, we have to have one on I-70 there, and it should go in
They're on hold currently, but yes, there have been the last two years and we've been working with Mickey and others to try to get someone to apply for that.
K.0 shipped to the focus. All the interstates in Kansas are our alternative fuel corridors, but so it's 54 or 400 in the southern part of the state and they had basically zero.
And so K.0 said we got to fill those gaps there before we fill the 70 mile and 80 mile gaps.
Going to Denver you're you're looking good. I was in goodland three weeks ago and driving to see some family and stop
I at the 24-7 and goodland Kansas and I noticed there were two chargers. I know it's a construction. So I went talk to the
The the court of the store and just asked casually
Did your chargers get in the use she said yeah, so much so we're building full so I mean that's good
Good, so people on I seven year using it. Yeah, I was thinking maybe sapper others
That would be.
Saffron others would be the other one.
Somewhere in there.
There are requirements with that net-be program and this has been, this has been the
issue.
It has to have 24-hour Wi-Fi.
It has to have 24-hour bathrooms.
You have to have business-hour services into food, some shopping, a gas station will work,
but somewhere where someone could go for 20 minutes, 30 minutes to charge up.
And then, quite honestly, the grants are competitive, looking at the ones that we're awarded,
they can't be at the back of the parking lot, it needs to be in good locations if it
So here's a close-up of the level three for Junction City.
One of the talk about future demand and energy.
So, well, we'll get to energy in a minute.
Our consultant did some modeling.
They looked at the stuff on the bottom right there.
They said, okay, if in 2030, they did three different scenarios of low medium and high.
Modeling to me, which we probably won't get to in Junction City.
But potentially we'll see.
So it says, okay, if in 2030, 10% of vehicles are electric, this many are SUVs and stands
and the average sedan requires this many kill a lot of hours and power and so on.
So you get this total amount of power needed and they looked at how much of that charging
would be done at home, 88% versus 12% public, so on and so forth, basically in that scenario
you have 45 megawatts of power a day that would be wired to charge 10% of electric vehicles
in 2030 in our region. 45 megawatts.
The number one thing we heard when we did public surveys last year
was that the grid can't handle EVs in mass, like we can't handle it. Big concern of ours as
well, so we had stakeholder group in energy was the clear number one stakeholder in that. I mean,
it's their power that we are buying. Lots of takeaways from that. I will also want to mention
who we had. We had this senior manager of electrification, this family for all of energy to look at
where we are at today, what's coming in terms of demand,
what's going offline?
What do they need to do to meet those demands?
That is his thought, that we had the person to talk to.
It was an incredibly informative meeting.
You two key talking points here.
Utilities, energy is incorporating
future demand from EVs into their long range planning.
The other thing is that he does not foresee
any future challenges in meeting the generation
and transmission demand from future EV adoption
in our region. In our region is the key. They do expect issues in Kansas City and
denser cities in areas, but in our region, they do not. We'll get into that in more detail.
We asked in multiple ways, point blank. Yes. Same answer every time. On the top, you can see
energies, basically percentage of power mix. You can see in 2005, we are 52% full. You can see
they're going in 20, 40 going away. So, in last year they were 34 percent, 34 percent,
coal, 30 percent, 26 percent, yeah, 30 percent wind in 26 percent, natural gas. I mentioned 45
megawatts of power needed 20, 30, either planning on top of things they're taking offline,
they're planning on adding another 360 megawatts in general. And so basically any EV adoption is going
to be a ministerial, compared to what they're getting.
And here's another big thing that is important.
We're all worried about EV chargers, charging our cars,
data centers are a much bigger issue.
So every time you chat, GPT takes 10 times a day and a third.
So you can have fun, but you're costing yourself
enough money down the road.
So in the future, data centers are the big issue.
I just said that every G told us that we
are going to be just fine, I think so.
But that does not mean the grid of today is just going to be just fine.
It's going to require investment in upgrades and transmission and distribution.
Absolutely, but they've done studies.
They've cited studies from independent oversight groups like KCC and there are three key findings from the studies.
Number one, revenues from each charging are more than paying back the investment costs to the power generators.
I don't know about the private business selling.
Those profits are expected to drive down costs for all users, whether you have an EV or not.
Basically, they're selling energy at night that you should just go in the new.
Now they have customers for it, so they're making money day and night now when the demand was low.
And number three, the investments being driven by EVs are modernizing and upgrading the grid,
which is something we know needs to happen anyway. They're just pushing it.
So those are the three key talking points after talking to the energy.
Now, as far as what we can do locally, there are a few recommendations.
I hope you had a chance to read them, but, you know, the idea here is to make this as
painless as possible and to think about the future.
Number one, thinking about parking, incorporating electric vehicles into all aspects of
what the future may be.
It is cheaper to do something today than tomorrow.
There are a lot of places that are much further along in the adoption of EV, and they're
a lot of money to retrofit parking lots, apartments, all these sorts of things and wishing
they did done it five years ago. So, recommendation is 10 to 40 percent of parking spaces
should be EV ready, conduit laid in there, thinking about where the transmission would go to
access those, things of that nature, some cities are going 80 to 100 percent now that they're
seeing the riding on the wall. We're not there, so we're advising 10 to 40 percent. Also thinking,
okay, if a business wants to come in and you have parking minimum parking requirements,
The business knows how much parking they need, but if they want to push EVs, maybe that
EV parking space counts for two or three or four or five spaces, so it allows them to put
the money for what they see as they need into the EV charging instead of into more parking
that they don't think they'll need.
Things of that nature.
Standards for curbside parking, we don't have great answers for you here.
It's easy when it's on a parking lot or it's on a private property of a business.
What about if someone wants to put it in the public right of way?
And so there are places like Kansas City that are testing these things.
We'll have more on that, but it's a problem.
You can't see the photo here, but behind this photo
is a picture from Aggieville in Manhattan,
where the Tesla is plugging in his electric vehicle
across the public side, walking into a private business.
That's what we don't want to see.
Like to see, potentially you can think about this,
having an application, whatever your permitting process is,
do you need it for electric vehicle?
If you do, what would that look like?
Again, think about them for all things you're doing.
parks planning engineering all these different things buildings are a key thing. There are new international codes out there that are saying okay
Make sure your utility rooms have room for future panels so you can add these upgrades later
Put the conduit in now think about these things talk to the energy company today in the planning process to see what needs to be done
Just think about it because it is expensive to go back in later
No parking garages here, but it is recommended to have an EV point person just someone with a
or maybe a call valley, that could be the person.
We're looking to have an EV group.
Through the NPO since it is transportation related,
it was something that will probably meet once a year to start,
just to put updates.
There are, and just keep everybody kind of in the conversation.
And the other thing I wanted to add is that the chamber.
EVERGY now has a fleet advisory tool.
There are a lot of fleets both private.
I mean, if you've been to Kansas City, you've seen an Amazon vehicle.
It's an electric vehicle.
Every single one of them is electric.
There are cities, small cities that are converting over to electric just because of the maintenance costs.
So, averaging now has this free advisory tool. We're trying to learn more about that.
A little difficult to get a hold of, but we're hoping to learn more.
They're looking to help provide information to any business that wants to do it.
So, once we get that we'd like to share that with the Chamber and maybe having an event where folks come in if they are interested.
These are just clips from the report if you have a chance to look through it.
The other thing I wanted to talk about very briefly, I created some cost calculators.
We all know how to calculate how much our gas costs in our car, you know, miles per gallon,
cost per gallon, gas and so on.
It's not as simple with electric vehicles, so if you go under...
The website, there's three cost calculators. You can mess around with, you can select by vehicle type and change the cost of gas and change the amount of charging and where you'll charge and it will on the fly put those costs in there. So you can see what it would cost to go to Kansas City for a day in a gas vehicle, a personal electrical vehicle and so on. So it's generally much cheaper.
Everything is on our website.
I think that's all I had. Thank you very much. I take questions.
I don't have any questions, but I just want a, um, when I was a child, which is in too long.
Oh, I was born in 95, so I'll let you do the math. I was told by the year 2000, I was always told,
or it was going around at the, by the year 2025, we'll have flying car.
And it doesn't seem that we're getting there, but after this presentation, it's, you're getting close to something.
So I appreciate you, bro. Oh, yeah.
Don't hold your breath with the phone.
Anything else?
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Thanks, Jen.
Thanks, we have a request for Gary County Employee Tax Force to start the big sister's program.
They're not here, so we'll get that one there.
We have a request from Jeff CYMCA.
Welcome.
Thank you.
Before we go on up.
Hey, Kim, do we have to skip it? Can we not approve that?
Why? Because they're not here. The big brother program?
They're looking for donations, so that's why they're not here.
I
think you might have all gotten that's fine.
Take care, but we
are looking to redo our basketball floor.
Our gym floor here. We have done a lot of remodeling in the past eight months.
much needed remodeling, not really remodeling, we are fixing structural walls that needed
it, a lot of work in the pool area, but I think we need, it is time to redo our basketball
court.
Did I get this?
Yeah.
So, I am just looking for donations and funding for a new basketball court.
The second page in your little packet that I just gave you.
This is just kind of a breakdown of what we offer the community and how many people touch in the community with any of our programs.
These are numbers from 2024.
We have the evening supper meal that we feed 18 and under kids, a free supper meal Monday through Friday.
Saturday they get a sack lunch and the summer we do the summer program.
But last year alone we serve 53,000 meals.
If you go to the next page, this is a duplicated number, so the supper meals won't change,
but if we have a child that is enrolled or is participating in our basketball program,
we count that as one person, but if they have practice three days a week, we have touched,
we've provided a service to them three days a week.
So like the sports practices and games and things like that,
we've touched or provided services to 28,000 kids in our community and surrounding communities.
So these are just kind of numbers that we help the community with.
You know, we have a lot of coaches in this room right now.
We have parents in our before and after school care.
We have people who work out at our facility.
We have people who use, you know, a lot of our different programs.
So I really feel that we provide programs for everybody in this community, whether it's
our before and after school program, our early childhood program where we send early childhood
educators into parents, new parents' houses to help, you know, teach new parents what is developmentally
for their children from 0 to 5, then we've got the youth sports programs and we have the
active older adult programs.
The last two pages are just kind of what we have been spending our money on at the Y. So
we don't really have a lot of additional funds for a new basketball court.
We're really
short presentation, but that's kind of what we're looking for. I would love to say we would
of $15,000, but I go around and I ask people for $20 dollars to $60,000 dollars.
So, so far, well, our entire project is going to cost $2.6 million, which is much
what we have.
Are there any funds that we can tap into or any extras that we have that we want?
The answer is yes.
Okay.
We've parted the larger wires so you get it.
So it's a big misconception of how the wire works.
We are part of the YUSA, however, like McDonald's is part of McDonald's America.
We pay every month to be a YMCA.
So there's not a lot of funding that they funnel down into the penit-wise, but we don't
offer.
There are everything that we get is through private donations, membership fees and program fees.
So all the other construction you already have funding for all that?
Yes.
That's already.
But that's pretty much all we have.
Understood.
But those are huge numbers.
Yeah.
Huge.
How did you do that?
I like to think that we run a great program.
Whether it's our before and after school program, the food program.
dollar military. Oh yeah, that's a lot of saving. Yeah Ted was here for 40 years and
saved everything that he could. Awesome. Yeah I think our YMCA and our REC centers are very
essential and important to our community so I would love to see us support in any kind of way we can.
Amber I was going to I'm glad to see you here. I know what you're doing the community. I've sat down
with you for, and I definitely want to help.
The problem is this, you're asking for money
for basketball court, we have our own basketball courts,
we have to write, man, I was really hoping to see you
because I thought you were going to ask for what you do
on the second page you showed here that fee, you know,
5,000, 53,000 meals, right, to need you children, right?
At risk food program, right?
And I would, we use our basketball court.
Yeah, but that, I mean, that's our overflow.
We, you know, if you've been to the Y, you've seen our little snack area, it's got three
lunchroom, well, two lunchroom tables, and that's it.
That's where we feed the program.
I mean, before I left today at five o'clock, we'd already served, I mean, like, 16 people
came in at one time just to get their meal.
So, I mean, we overflow into the basketball court.
That's why we do have the big curtain that we got donated by Rotary Optimus upon us to
separate the basketball court in half so we can still play over here and we can throw down our other
labels.
Yeah, I was just going to finish my comment here that I would gladly like at least to vote
for some funds that maybe help with that program because I wouldn't feel right providing my
to basketball court that we have to maintain ourselves, you know. So, taxpayer money,
people, and hey, if you ever provide that service, why would we pay somebody else for their
own, right? But something that we don't provide is feeding our hungry children, right, in this community,
and there's a lot of them. So, anyways, those are my thoughts. Thank you, Amber, for being here.
That was my concern was that we have our own basketball courts and other equipment that we have to
That was mine, concerned as well, so are you expressing it?
Well, I have a concern about the city of precedent for any other organization to come in here.
Help with their facilities.
I mean, churches, everything else.
I mean, I get it, the need, and I get it, the great things that you do,
but I'm concerned about taking public funds and putting it into private entity.
So, they in that, I will be glad to make a donation to your effort.
personally,
but I just don't feel good about using public funds for that, so that's just my opinion.
We have to think about not only today, but today going forward.
Because we have a lot of people with their hand now.
We've had recent requests.
People are starting to come because we are helping other entities.
And we really don't have any guidelines.
It really puts you on the spot because we've had other activities come in.
And there's really no accounting that we're not asking for any accounting of any kind from
some of these that we've granted recently.
This is a 501C3, though, correct?
it's not a church. You need anything for the pool. Yes, we are out there right now, scraping it.
We are going to be painting really fort to be filled, hopefully mid-June and then open back up again,
early summer. I mean money. Oh yeah. I mean we're getting a new air handling unit in the back,
the units that were overhead,
haven't worked as long as I've been there
and that's been 18 years.
So we just bought a $300,000 air handling unit
system that is sitting over and while me go right now.
And another thing that's happening too, just FYI,
people are coming in, that we haven't budgeted things
or coming in after we've said our budget.
And we've had four or five, six come in, and we just need to decide what we're going to do.
We need a new ceiling in our 12-3, we need center gym, I mean, that's going to be a couple of years.
So we didn't budget for that either.
So that's kind of, I'm talking about external.
I don't understand, but I mean, there's always recurring costs.
Yeah, but that's something that I'm not in our budget.
But this budget, see, I'm in that business.
I don't know if you'll ask.
Yeah, I would consider, I would.
line item for the external ass, and then we can have set aside, and we can approve.
Yeah, I think that's a great idea that ask people who want to make an ask that they come in,
we set aside in the amount, and that way we have a limit.
They come in, they make a presentation.
We can say yes or no, or sort of that.
Doesn't have to be, you don't have to start big, but I think he's ad hoc.
It's Pandora's Box, man.
I'm really worried about that.
But if you set a certain amount and once it's done, it's done.
It's like, well, then you've got to wait till our next budget.
I've just thrown out ideas.
So what we've done is you have a GL code set aside for time to donate.
And you have a little bit of money left in that.
So it's budgeted, but it's in that one GL code for these unforecasted budgets.
So if the donations you have made have not come out of the budget,
it's come out of this one set alone.
And we did the food pantry, we didn't plan on that, that was another grant because it serves
a community.
So, I mean, there's things I get, I just, I just, we've walked a lot.
Yeah, and I think that we also have to, you know, I hear what you say I'm here and I understand,
totally where you're coming from, but also I look at things like we voted to spend
15,750 on a survey, it's been city, which to me, I mean, yeah, I get it.
We need to improve it.
I want to improve it.
I've been advocate about spending, like why I'm Seattle, life and places and locations
for our children to go and stay out of trouble, but to me, that just was a total waste of
funds when we, you know, I can go in there and tell you guys what we need to do to spend
city.
we didn't have to spend almost $16,000 to do so.
Whereas we have a YMCA that serves our community
and they do a bunch of different wonders and works
and our community for our youth and adults,
as well as elders.
So, you know, I get it, but we kind of got to also look at that.
We, what's important?
What's really important?
That's 15,750 on Spence City just to me.
What's the timeline for your pool?
The pool or the floor?
For a least summer.
Everything's pretty much early summer.
We would like to have everything up for a least summer.
So you have the rest of the funding for the floor already?
We have some funding for the floor, yes.
There are 45,000 or what?
And change for whatever?
Right.
And I am going to the county as well on 9.
Thank you.
I think I've got lots of money.
I know it. Well, I've been told no a lot from them, but I go back every year.
To go.
Well, I'd like to move authorize $7,500 of the $15,000 request for the floor for the YMCA.
Do you think they'll get the other half from the county?
I don't know.
Something that's better than nothing,
though.
I'll get your information.
There's a motion on the floor, is there a second?
I'll second that. It's been moved in seconds or any further discussion.
I hear what you're saying.
The county was in agreement already. I would acquiesce.
Okay, let me amend my motion. What if I would like to amend my motion, say, that if the county will give
$7,500 that city initiative went to for a total of $15,000.
Second floor.
And we could reconsider depending upon what happens.
It's been moved in a second as any further discussion.
Following fair of the motion respond by saying aye.
All opposed same sign.
Oh, man.
Motion carries.
All right.
Thank you.
I'd like to let you know.
Absolutely.
I'd like to let you know.
Okay, next we have appointment for request to point John Tripot to the Library Board for your turn and begin May 1st, 2025 and April 30th, 29th.
So moved.
Mr. Tripot, I would say he goes around the neighborhood and he picks up trash all the time.
He's very good citizen. I think he volunteers at the Opera House.
Yep.
that he's a good board member.
Yes, very good.
I'm so sorry.
Who's second?
It was moved in.
I did.
I'm moved in.
Secondary.
Further discussion.
I'll bear the motion respond by saying aye.
Aye.
Opposite.
Ms. Board?
Mayor's Commissioner, Christopher Schragg asked me to be a
development director.
I stand before you today, bringing ordinance G1313, amendment orders to chapter 5, 10,
article 1, codes appeals board.
This amendment is to rectify some of the issues to the board members that we would be accepting
applications from mostly tradesmen and commercial contractors so that they would be able to help
us update the new codes for the city. As of right now we have adopted the codes for the IBC
or the ICC for 2012. I'm looking to actually have those codes updated to 2024. Normally this is a
process that's done every four years. As you can tell we haven't done it in quite some time.
These codes will be for the building codes and ordinances that you guys put into it back for the process of building the city for greater value
So the staff is recommending that you guys approve a motion for approval for ordinance 213 a amendment for chapter 510 article one of code to peel board and I'm willing to take any answers or questions that you may have.
Is this the IPMC stuff?
This is that you already have a nice guess.
I'll make a motion now.
We will.
I'll second that.
Move that second.
Is there any further discussion?
I'll in favor of the motion respond by saying I actually.
That's a roll.
I vote.
Yes.
Motion carries.
Next time consideration of ordinance.
S.
Three, three, zero, six.
to resume property from I.L. Light Industrial District to C.S. Service Commercial District for the common address of 409 Skyline Drive.
Mayor's Commissioner on April 2nd, the Planning Commission had a hearing to overhear the recommendation from the owner of one accord to take a parcel from Light Industrial to Service Commercial.
What they would like to do with the property is go ahead and make it into a banquet hall here within city limits.
The board was a vice that there are seven other surrounding community.
They seemed that they deemed it fit that it would fit to the community.
The nation was being close to the bowling alley, the church, and other organizations around there.
And due to this, it's the verity of the hotel over by Walmart shutting down for a little while.
There was a mass issue of not having such areas to have weddings and things of that nature.
So one accord brought that to us. The recommendation from the board is the motion for approval.
that have the parcel 409 cell or skyline drive
rezone from light industrial service commercial.
And I'm willing to take any questions that you may have.
That's, is that the building on the corner?
That is correct. Yes.
And this is right across the street from where the parking for the motel is.
We're going to clear all that down while that parking will be gone.
Correct. But the parking across the street from that building is actually owned by one
or not where the hotel is, but directly it brought.
They actually owned that parking lot
and they were utilizing that parking lot instead.
So move.
Sounds pretty ambitious to me,
but I had half a second to your motion
in terms of their projections,
but it's been moved into a second, sir.
Yeah, just looking at,
moving in second and second,
is there any further discussion?
I have some concerns about parking as well.
kind of halfway residential area not really though but I guess they also have access to
the space behind the building as well or storage units and so on.
So the staff did recommend during that meeting that was some of the issues that were brought up
that the parking would be concerned. That's where we learned about the parking lot across the
street. With the residential being there it has been advised to them that if we needed to
later on down the road that we can allow to have what you call it, I'm so sorry, special
special news permit for that so that we can go over like noise waivers and things
of that nature if there's problems with residential areas.
So the number of people that could be in that building versus so many vehicles, for all
that we were exactly at all that.
That has been calculated.
So once it gets changed over,
planning industrial service commercial,
the fire marshal will have to go back out,
once done with the renovations on the inside.
And then the maximum oxygen can see,
well, actually, they have to be updated.
What's the projection though?
I'm so sorry.
What's the projection of the occupancy?
I mean, it really depends.
It's all based off of the number of exits,
how many rooms are gonna be in there.
things of that nature. There's quite a few evaluation there and plus the square footage of
that building. Yeah, it's just kind of hard to tell from a red square on a map. Correct. Yes.
So that's my hundred
plus. Okay, so not not huge. No. It would be kind of challenge for a
Okay.
It's only 60 cars.
Okay.
Any further discussion?
I'll clear the motion.
Respond by saying aye.
I actually, oh my god.
It's a red.
It's a.
We're going to go.
Hold on.
Yes.
Motion carries.
Next time.
Senator Shoren, it's S-3308, returning the rezoning of 2.504 and 2.503O, C-18 Highway from C-N neighborhood,
commercial district to RS suburban residential district, back to planning and zoning commission
for further consideration.
So, the gentleman spoke about this earlier.
Again, I am making a recommendation that it be sent back to the Planning Commission for
further review after the hearing is sitting down with the call valley in the city engineer.
There has been some further light that was shed on that area and what the plan was.
Unfortunately, the planning commission did not hear about that.
So when they made their judgment, they were making the recommendation of denying the ordinance.
But I feel with what was brought to light that is brought back to the planning commission that they can make further judgment on it.
So moved.
And second, any further discussion?
Just so the commission is aware, when you send it back, you need to give a reason for why you do not approve or disapproved.
So it would be a statement of that reason why you're doing it.
I said, so move it based on his mind.
I said, there you go.
Send it back to 30 to listen to the presentation.
Some of the methods.
I just want to be clear.
Got it.
Any further discussion?
Thank you, roll call.
Yes.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
I'm curious next time because the
situation ordinance S3309, the Nile of the special use permit at 131 West 9th Street. Again,
Mayor and commissioners on April 2nd, the planning commission overheard the hearing for
special use permit for 131 was nice street for the tattoo parlour shop at the location. Under
the zoning that it is now, it is not permitted or permitted uses or conditional use. Usives
so they were asking for a special use. During that time the staff recommended that the planning
commission not only factors from the Supreme Court case of 1978, but also the ordinance that
set forth for how we should be out the social departments.
Once that was given and there was a lot of residents that came in from the dance studio,
not only through email, but also showing up hearing, stating that they would not agree
with having the tattoo part of the shop next to their business.
They didn't see that the two businesses clashed well together.
They were not a pose of a new tattoo shop, but they were a pose of the location.
I will state that this morning I did get another application from Mr. Caesar, who was the original for this one as well.
For another location that is going to be off of sixth street, this is my understanding that if this could fall through today that they would be moving out to sixth street where they would be requiring another special use permit for that tattoo shop.
Are you able to pull up the map?
I don't know exactly what was there. I can't say that the building is going to be out of here and a half, if I believe correctly.
You're supposed to be a club.
Yeah, you're supposed to be a bar in horse.
That's what a map I was showing by was in Shavals looking at the right building.
It's the white top building right there as well.
And then the parking lot right next to that is the bank and then just to the left of that on the left corner where the gray attached to the same building.
That's informational.
Yes, that's correct.
And then right there on the left top corner where the gray building gray square is that's where the dance studio was.
that's where we've got a lot of residents, family members that attend that's, uh,
grant studio came in and discussed their, um, not wanting to have the two businesses next to each
other. Um, part of the factors that is stated in the eight golden factors,
one happens to be parking. The other one is the combat of a compatibility of the businesses next
to each other in the surrounding area. Um, and then what is the downfall of not accepting the special
use permit for person that is actually requesting it, what is the judgment for that? Are they going
to lose is a greater fact than approving it in things of that nature? We do have another
tattoo parlour that's on the Mexican or something. That Mr. God frees down the road on to
a 10th street or between 10th and 9th correct correct yes now the difference between the
two of those is if you actually look at Mr. Goffrey's Mr. Goffrey's actually owns that
business why would he fight himself on saying hey this doesn't have to put this I'm not opposed
to a new tattoo, I just don't think that's the right location and they met the criteria
with their decision to deny the request with the eight factors and you just said that he's
going to open up injunction city on another location, which is a plot he has a plot, yes ma'am.
Hoping to.
We've already have a couple of tattoo places off of six streets so they'll still be able
to come to our community and provide that his services to his clients.
So the bill, he's looking for is one of the wide roof.
Correct.
The day the city is one of the gray roof.
What's a little black roof?
What is that?
I'm not exactly sure what is it in that bill.
So there is a buffer there.
There is a buffer there.
Yes.
That's the dance studio.
That's the next one.
Okay.
Go ahead and tell Grail and Grail, I guess.
Thank you.
Another building in front of Jefferson.
That was good.
Okay. So there is no buffer. Okay. Thank you.
How long is the dance studio been there?
A little over 20 years? 20 years? Okay. Just asking. Nice to know. But as the landlord indicated,
you could put in a bar there. Again, yes, you could. But again, there would there would be some
lack of a fit coming back using the golden factors of things of that nature.
There's the, this is the building right here.
This used to be a bowling alley.
I think that, I don't see the problem.
Yeah, I don't see a problem.
I, it sounds like we're trying to, you know, just, I appreciate the public's input.
And I know some people have come in who have, who oppose this request.
but I don't see a problem with it really, as I said earlier,
they weren't here.
The tattoo partners used to be illegal.
They were all over in Ogden.
I'm supporting our planning commission.
We asked them to volunteer.
They're trying to be on that board to bring us to this point.
I'll be supporting the planning commission.
And again, Mr. Sice said, you guys are more than welcome
to overrule it by a two-thirds vote.
You can also vote to approve the ordinance,
or you can also send it back for further
do the planning commission if you seem fit.
Yeah, the last time the board is owning a piece.
Did a action for the carlot for people voted,
not to go along to appeal that decision.
So I think we ought to be consistent.
I kind of feel like we should do what we did with the last item,
and then they're back for you.
Let them kind of rethink it, make another decision on it,
and bring it back to us for further decision.
Well, I'd like to support the gentleman.
I don't see an issue that I do like the idea
that Harry has a plan for B.
So I mean, if six street works best for him,
but I definitely don't want to make plan B just because
of the building next door, the neighbor.
Because these seem very professional.
I've known many people who work at tattoo parlors.
And I don't see any problem within.
Now, if it was a bar or something like that,
would people come in and talk to caters or something like that?
Or, I don't know what it's called, a liquor stores
and stuff like that, that'd be a problem.
But people are a place of business.
And it's going to be wanted to be a community
that to not like a giant.
So it doesn't take much parking.
So, I don't mind supporting them, but then again, he's not here to say what I gladly go somewhere else because, you know,
correct. Yeah, I do know Francis is here to speak on their behalf, which he did earlier,
because they are not in in state. You know the location on 6th. I believe it's 635 or 632
6th Street. It's very close to the other tattoo parlour shop just down the road from them on 6th.
That's Dylan's block, right?
See four groups?
Cross them, Dylan's.
Yes, that's right.
That's right.
So I'll make a motion that we approved this special use
permit at 1.31.
I have strict.
Yeah, I'll second that.
It's been moved in seconds, very further discussion.
Just to, yes, what's the vote have to be?
It's a third.
Mr. Ciri, Terry.
So I was just checking the code to make sure it was.
Yeah.
But what is the current motion on that?
to approve it, to approve it.
So, to approval.
Yes, so you want to go against the recommendation of it.
You need a two-thirds, which will be a four out of five,
we need a vote to all overrule the recommendation of the BZA here.
Thank you.
So, we're approving the motion is to approve that the Nile,
for the special release permit?
No, that's not what we'll say.
It's to approve the.
through the festivities permit. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. The motion is the overall
that the BZA is and then to approve a special use permit. That's one that
clarify. That was struggling. So thank you. Okay. Any further discussion?
So we'll call vote.
I approve. Yes.
Yes.
Motion carries.
Next item.
Change to the police department request to approve the purchase slash replacement of three vehicles in the amount of two hundred and three thousand.
One hundred and ninety six dollars and sixty eight cents.
Mayor commissioners. Good evening. All right. So what we have before you tonight
is a request to purchase three Chevy Silverados, a little backstory on the Silverados
when COVID hit, Chevy was unable to produce police package towers, which historically been the
vehicle of the Police Department for the last 15 years or so.
We switched to Dodge Durango's during COVID.
We have had terrible terrible terrible luck with the Dodge Durango's.
They have not worked out very well for us.
They have had a lot of mechanical issues.
They have not held up well to the rigors of police vehicles.
And so, we last year purchased two Silverados that are currently on patrol.
They have been operating very, very well.
They've held up very well, mechanically, they are rock stars.
We haven't had any issues with them at all.
We also have three Silverados in our unmarked fleet, which are admin and investigation vehicles.
Those vehicles are between five and nine years old.
And we have not had any problems with them either in the time that we've had them.
And so we are looking to bring in more of the Silverados to the fleet.
A couple of other talking points here.
We are requesting two of these Silverados that will be for patrol use.
They will be marked out as police vehicles.
And they will have all of the equipment inside of them.
That's all included in the price.
So, our turn key vehicles, as soon as we get them in, they'll be able to hit the street and be operational.
One of those vehicles will be in a administrative vehicle, the only difference between it and the patrol vehicles will be, it will not have a push bumper on the front and will not have a cage and back, other than that, it will have all of the emergency lights and equipment in it as well as the pursuit package beefed up
drive train and that sort of thing.
That vehicle will become chief of police's vehicle.
That will be the vehicle that will be his daily driver,
but it will also be available for him to respond 24-7-2 scenes,
and it will be available to control officers
and uniform personnel should we need another vehicle.
We currently have some admin vehicles that are advised by patrol
because of our issues with derangos.
And so we have some of those in the fleet currently that are being operational.
One of the things in here that you'll see is that we are looking to use these as replacement vehicles.
Meaning we have vehicles that are ready to leave the fleet and we'll be leaving the fleet.
We have three vehicles that these are going to replace. They're marked out here in your stuff here.
Just to note, the 2013 Chevy Tahoe that will be leaving, I understand it only has 76,000 miles on it.
That is the oldest vehicle in our fleet, and those are very hard miles, that vehicle.
Now that it's 12 years old has really started aging, aging, and it is inching up on our maintenance quite a bit.
It's been having a lot of issues, it currently has some AC issue to keep it on the street.
We are going to put those vehicles on auction, meaning we're going to sell them, so we will be able to bring somebody in to offset some of the cost of replacement.
We anticipate those three vehicles bring in between 12 and 18,000 on the auction just because of the nature of the auctions.
We also have four other vehicles that are aged out and are being removed from the fleet.
They also will be auctioned off and we anticipate those bringing somewhere between 16-5 and 22-5 in on that.
The reason I highlight that in the 25 budget for approved $485,000 for replacement of three vehicles.
We've been on a three year vehicle rotation each year for the past several budgets.
That is to replace our vehicles in a manner to where the old ones are going out before they become a maintenance issue.
However, the three trucks since they are not SUVs, they are a little bit more expensive and the total cost for the three of those is that
200 and 3,000 and
Where's my number so I'd say it correctly?
$196.68, thank you for that.
That is a shortfall of $18,196.68,
between that cost and what was budgeted.
That's because you budgeted a derango for that vehicle.
That's huge.
We budgeted for SUVs.
We did look at trying to get Tajos.
They're still not available package,
and we do not want to get more derango's with the issues
that we've had with them, we would request that the money that comes in from auctioning off
these seven vehicles be applied to that shortfall so that there is no budgetary impact
on that side.
The quotes are attached in there. They have everything. I'd be happy to answer
any other questions that you guys might have.
You said you're, you're also going to auction
for the vehicles. Correct. Are those needing be replaced as well or? So those vehicles are some
of our support vehicles or vehicles that were replaced in the fleet and waiting to see if other
city departments can maybe utilize them. But it's time to just get rid of them. They're not worth
passing on. Oh, we're not coming up. Correct. Maybe you're saying we're getting all this done for
getting rid of it. Yes. Now what we set up is whenever a department such a police department
option off of vehicle, those proceeds was back into that department. If codes get to
their vehicles, they'll go back in the cup. So the option off of their vehicles will
cover that cost difference.
Yeah, that's sense.
Do you have any questions?
Yep.
It's a revolution.
I make the mission we approve the purchase of the three vehicles in the amount of
2,000, two hundred three thousand one hundred ninety six dollars and six eight cents.
Exactly.
I've been moving in secondly for their discussion.
I have a question.
how it was the usual life span for our vehicles.
So our SUVs, we typically plan between three and four years.
The trucks we anticipate four or five years.
So any further questions?
All fair of the motion respond by saying aye.
Follow those seems on motion carriers.
Thank you.
Thanks, we have the chance to see please from a request
for approval to apply for the yearly pet co-grant.
Uh, this is for, um, we're seeking approval to apply for the yearly pet co grant.
This is something that the animal shelter, um, applies for every year, uh, director
Gray apologizes.
She can't be here today.
She's out of state.
Um, so the vacation.
Just saying she's she's on vacation.
I was trying not to bust her out.
They have to bust her out.
Yeah.
She's on vacation.
She's having a good time.
Historically, we usually receive between 15 and 20,000 on the grant.
There are no matching funds to the city.
There's no administrative duties to the city, other than keeping track of what we spend the funds on.
Typically, those are utilized for cage replacement.
And then we also spray a newter vouchers for people that can't afford to get their pets fixed.
It's nice.
Make a motion that we approve.
of my second request as presented.
That being.
It's been moved in seconds or any further discussion.
I'll refer the motion respond by saying aye.
I'll post same sign.
Motion carries.
Thank you.
Next we have release of the lean on 434 West 7th Street.
It was American mission.
We had a previous one meeting or two ago with these means
that were done by the commission signed by Mayor
back in 1991 that either were paid off or it wasn't me.
I wasn't on that.
It seems like I've ever, I was.
That guy.
You're the mayor?
No.
Never.
I never had that privilege.
All right.
That's right.
I'm here at your pleasure.
Careful.
I know.
Yeah.
Good advice.
Now, there were these lines that were done, so the race we've been found now that
transfer, transacted, all that gets stuff.
And so these were 10-year leans.
So as a 2001, it looks like either they should have been paid off,
or in my opinion, they probably we don't have much of a
statute of limitations with borrowers from going forward
and trying to act on it.
And so a lot of these are there.
And it's been 24 years since that they would have
Sure, it's expired.
And so it's my recommendation that we release that, release that lean and go. That way they can transact and feel a still be on the tax rules.
I'd make the mission really release the lean on 434 West 7th Street.
Yeah.
I second that.
It's been moved and secondly for their discussion.
I'll confer the motion respond by saying aye.
Aye. Aye.
I all post same side motion carries.
Next we have lean release for 2016 North Washington.
Mr. Mayor, Commissioner is basically the identity of the previous one, different property and kind of the same boat.
Make the motionary release the lean for 1216 North Washington.
Second.
Move in second name further discussion.
So one was released of lean and this one was lean release.
You called that to?
Yeah.
It's what you need to do in the mirror.
Nice play on work.
Any further discussion?
All in favor of the motion respond by say aye.
Aye.
Opposed same side motion carries.
Thank you.
We've all done finished business discussion of four or eight West seven three dangerous
sensitive structure.
Mayor commissioners.
So this started back in a 22 kind of speeding up eight you guys signed a resolution or
303 marking the property danger sent on safe.
Throughout the 22 through 24, the landowner was making small movements on repairing
the facility, or the residents at the time, and November of 24, the Commission did
grants Mr. Bach an extension so that he can at least get the rear foundation completed so
He can start the remodel.
He has, at this time, completed that.
As you can see from the pictures, it started from one section.
This is the newest pictures from the 29th.
As you can see, it's completed.
The foundation underneath the house
and started the foundation for the add-on.
The original state of the foundation was actually crumbling
underneath itself, as you can see here.
Who's our last years?
Those are the last year's correct.
No, don't worry.
So within that six-month extension has made the required improvements to the residents and at this time the staff recommends granting another six-month extension all the way out until November of 2025 to ensure that he can complete the rest of the work.
also permitting that the during the permitting process that he understands that a licensed plumber
and electrician will be need to be added onto the work so that the residents can be up to
code and build correctly under our work.
It's been moved in a second. Any further discussion?
Who's the owner? Mr. Bok. Bok. Bok. Bok. Bok. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Okay, I'm going to have to say now I've done some work for Mr. Booker.
Farewell.
He said Mr. Bach, I didn't start with that.
Sorry.
Any further discussion?
All in favor of the motion respond by saying aye.
Aye.
All opposed, same sign?
I'm saying one session.
Motion carries next time.
Consideration or request to solicit the bids for the demolition of the
structures located at 508 South Adams.
So, again, back in January of 25, the commission rejected all submitted bid for demolition.
At that time, Mrs. Aggie came in and mentioned that to the staff in front of me and the commission in front of me,
that she would have the work commenced starting to be done March of this year.
She indicated that the exterior work would be scheduled to commence one week from March 20, or 2025 with the rest of the work being as early as August of 2025.
To this date, there has been no permits pulled.
Our have been submitted.
No construction activity has commenced on the property.
This staff therefore requested authorization to proceed to solicitor bid.
for the structure located at 508 West Adam Street.
I will say that I did receive a forwarded message
from Mrs. Brown, who works at my office.
Ms. Aggie reached out to her today at 9.12.
stating that the work had been delayed
and probably started until either late May or June
in the 25th timeframe,
and that she would be on site for the duration
of the project, which is what she also told you at the last meeting.
She advised that she was not able to attend this meet medical treatment that she has surgery
on the eighth, so she would not be able to be here to talk with you guys.
I did give her some vids on the property prior to, and there was some start dates.
I think there were March in the June or something like that.
I think there was broken up in different things from anywhere from some foundation work to
and other structural work inside, I mean, outside that would make the property look a lot more
you know, better on the outside, but she had to work with the insurance company, but she has
chains. The insurance company took care of the roof. I think it was a $30,000 roof that's on the house.
But they were holding off on doing any more, so she's been fighting that son. I think it's
the USAA, she's been sitting there trying to get the insurance to help her out.
But I told her her time is running out. She's going to have to have some answers for you guys.
So I mean, if you could give her a little bit more time, she might be able to come up with what the funds needed to start the project.
Yeah, what's your name?
Dominette Booker.
Yeah, I was thinking of the same team, maybe giving you some more time.
She does live out of state.
What was the concentration?
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. The yard's been cleaned up, so that's been good.
I don't see any insurance coming to give in or money for sighting or
they show the porch falling down and all that. I mean, real real
adamant about this that it happens. I mean, I've been holding off to you.
If I can see, I don't see the other stuff happening. I kind of agree with this.
She's going to take a construction loan. Yep. I grant. So my only
observation is if that house were actually renovated it would have quite a bit of value and it's really
does it look like it doesn't look like it's actually a pretty nice house on the inside not
of course and everything else and so that's what I said it's good there's a little bit of
spots damage from the roof that was but had some issues but nothing major nice wood floors
through it walls nice foundation okay yeah it looks pretty good except except for the front
up there. We're like front porch is at the one walls laying in another part of
Butler and some and then there's some blocks I think on the side that you're coming
out. You want to do a sad Sunday in 60 days or something or do you think?
I did what I like I said I do know that she's going under 3 on the 8th of this week of this
morning. If he can start work in the next month, we'll get a sad Sunday in 60 days. You want
to do that?
Now, I think you ought to tell her to paint the house.
Get started.
I agree.
Really?
I mean, that's easy work.
I mean, it's a lot of scraping because it's been going so long.
But if she just put a little paint on it, clean it up.
Yep, we got my help all of it in there.
And there's contractors ready to go to work.
A lot of people I know live on Adams.
Again, just so I can reiterate, the property has to be safe and habitable for to come off the dangerous and unsafe.
Good point.
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you, sir.
90 days.
You want 60 day update or what do you want?
I would be willing to do 60 days.
60 days and do an update.
Yes.
We've been extension after extension.
Is there no progress then we can.
Yeah.
She's got money or she doesn't.
Let me make a motion that we give her a 60 days.
Extension.
60 extension and have an update.
to the second meeting in July?
Do that?
Yes.
I'll second that.
I'll move the second.
Any further discussion?
I do have a question.
If she cannot really get this done and some investor would come in and say that they're going to do it,
I'm serious.
I mean, we have about seven.
I've got something for Commissioner comments just about that.
Well, then I'll just hold off.
But I think my hold off until then.
Okay, so an answer to your question, yes, that is possible, but it does not stop the
condemnation process from starting according to our ordinance.
They would have to make significant progress to the property for us to continue for me
to bring it to you, to say, hey, I would like you to give you the grant and extension, or
I believe that they're not committing to what we've given them, therefore demolition is our
only option.
But if her problem, if there's some reason that she can't get it done, and she decides to sell it to someone, and someone would come in and say, hey, someone that was credible, I mean there are probably lots of people, just your chances in the room he might want to do it.
But if they would come in and make that presentation, we could, we could extend it.
Correct.
That is your will, yes.
Thank you.
Any other discussion?
All in favor of the motion respond by say aye.
Aye.
All opposed same sign.
Motion carries.
Thank you.
Now we have public comment.
I'm going to request the Council to be limited to five minutes.
First please state your name and address.
First we have Mary Snipes.
Welcome.
So good evening.
We're talking to Mike.
Because sometimes my wife from TV.
I mean from my.
at home. I'm not talking into my good evening, American missioners. My name is Mary Snipes.
Two, two, two. East, 15th Street. So I'm here to bring up a concern of mine's
ground in area.
I know there are and have been gatherings and meetings concerning grant
avenue to try to fix it up a little bit. I want to bring up that if grant avenue is supposed
to look nice, then the area on the east side should look nice as well.
I know and understand that cities have different situations, but citizens need to straighten
up their home and yard,
or some people call it long.
I notice more children in my area.
traffic is heavy especially on Franklin and Monroe and there are a lot of individuals
that speak and of course I think about the kids a lot.
To me a lot of the homes or
houses should be torn down if you ride down Franklin as I mentioned the view
not inviting. And I don't know if you guys have taken that right on the
side, but it is not inviting.
Some areas, some areas where, and once
call, we vitalize areas over there. And to me is not revitalized.
To me, it looks
terrible.
Of course, there used to be a lot going on on
east side, clubs,
prostitutes.
There, I remember living over there and there was
someone that was found in a vehicle years ago.
And their life was taken.
So, please
understand. There are a lot of homes, houses, and areas of junction city that need some TLC
or need to be torn down.
So that's one of my concerns and I want to mention that as we were
riding around, we noticed that the parks around the city are really good. Really looking good. And I
notice that the Martin Luther King Park on the east side is starting to have some construction
over there. So, I really do feel that that is necessary because a lot of the kids in
up trying to cross Washington Street and going over to Washington Elementary, which of course
sometimes we have to stop and, you know, help the kids across the street from Washington going
to the elementary school.
So that's my concern and thank you guys for listening because
you know I'm all about safety. Thank you. Thank you. City Manager, can we go look into the
Let's see what we can do.
Thank you.
Next we have April Factor.
Good evening. My name is April Feckner. I live at 637 with I commute back and forth from my house to Fort Riley, every day. There's three street lights out on Grand Avenue at this time. Also, there's a black vehicle with one tire and three jacks in the parking lot of consa. The vehicle's been there at least two weeks.
It could be a safety hazard for children, adults.
Also, the lights are in Washington Street, from Sonic to Donald's, are all out.
It's completely dark.
Stop lights or streets.
No, street lights.
Completely dark.
Unsafe, terrible.
It's been like that for the last two and maybe a week and a half.
So, that was, that's all my concerns, a family member said that the alleys, the roads and the alleys look better than our own junction city streets.
We're getting turns on the alleys.
So, the police department I had a chat this past week about the lights and street lights out,
and put it on the patrol watch when they're out to track all these lights.
Good, thank you.
Awesome. Next we have Kirk Douglas.
Welcome.
Welcome. Thank you. Yes, my name is Kirk Douglas, not in the 735 West
Verse. My concern is, um, top 3 close their hero range down. The boat that I mean,
do can be called the bail. And there's no place in Johnson City where you can
should or test your arrows out or test your or test the equipment out. Well, I've
got some pictures here that I may on set. Yeah, there's no place in Junction City
but there is a place right outside of Junction. Sportsman acres. I'm just giving you
an information there. Give him a ride. Yeah, I'll take you whenever you want to go. We can
Wow, there you go, you let me show what you want.
You did it to the next stop at the phone that I made for this.
It's really cool.
I mean, the arrows cannot go through if you happen to miss.
Well, I mean, I mean, you use a crossbow, sometimes you jerk by accident.
I mean, nobody's perfect with the crossbow.
Where's this located?
This is behind my nephew's house on Jefferson, the alleyway.
So you guys created like that?
Yeah, we will be quick on it.
This is the alleyway, and he has come there.
I don't know, are you acts in this room?
I'm not sure that's really allowed, sir.
Well, she's got an order.
There's an issue, an error.
You have an ordinance that says that.
Yeah, you have an ordinance that cannot shoot.
an arrow, or a bow, or anything, considering that, and the city limits is correct.
That's true.
He came to see me about it.
We talked about it.
So not understand.
What we're trying to get it, this mantle, or that we can't shoot, or bow, or target, with no reflections,
I mean, there's no...
I mean, do you guys have land, are you guys in, like, towards the county, I mean, like,
hey, excuse me.
Why?
I didn't go to the podium, so.
Yes, sir.
What's in all here?
You go to the public and hear your.
It's like, in between, it's on their, it's on their place.
I live a residence.
And then it's between the garage, it's on their property, but there's no houses, so we use the old building.
We put it all up and we set it all up so we can shoot our arrows because the 31st is 30 seasons.
And we went and they damn sure everything is set up and we got lasers on our arrows that we can double check.
And then we could find two of it, but we want to know is can we get an ordinance change to where we can go out and shoot that boy, so we go on the river and shoot it.
Well, it's public safety issue and I don't think that's ever going to be allowed anywhere.
No sir.
At a license facility with all the safety measures in place.
Otherwise you'd have everybody just going out in the backyard.
But how would you fix that?
I don't know.
I mean, I don't know.
But if I had a private seat then so I guarantee you never see a shoe because you can't see a shoe
Oh, that's like I was flying over the fence
I'm gonna hang out with a little part over the damn fence when that's a
It's an easy car for me and stuff happens
Okay, I just see you're a non-hunter
Because I guarantee you after trying to hunt so they don't get you to go
You ain't gonna see me in the next county
you know, you did my just
just hang up your balls on the one
yeah, you're you're right. I probably
made a very good hunter.
Mr. Douglas, there is places that you
could go one day, start your
arrow. Right. But I'm just saying that's
I think. Right. You know, I'm one day
trip to you. Yeah, I'm just saying
sometimes, you know, the 30
person's coming up real quick.
I understand. Well, if you can
over lasers on the arrows and get
an Uber asking is that we can
zero, not shoot the damn arrows, but we can zero in with a laser, so in the other words,
our stove, our pans and everything is accurate to the two, the red.
Do you not shoot the arrows?
Not shooting really, not shooting.
Yeah.
But, you know, I don't know what somebody's calling the police and they were shooting.
Actually, we're not shooting.
We're zeroing.
So what's the problem?
But did that go right here?
It's a problem.
Because we got, the police got called on the saying that we were shooting.
We were actually zeroing.
Did they investigate?
Yes, they investigated.
They saw the holes in the target.
I know.
But so they assumed, because we took the targets out the country and we started.
Did you bring the target back?
Okay, did you get charged?
Well, they said we can't shoot.
What?
They're shooting.
Zeroing.
As long as there's zeroing.
Mr.
It's tight.
Okay.
Let me ask you a question.
If you see somebody with an arrow in a prophole and hold on the target.
Yep.
That's exactly what I'm talking about.
What's the point?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, what's the matter?
I think they still have to prove that, well, he's got proof, he's got holes in the valentine.
That doesn't matter.
I mean, Jesus, I don't want to get an idea.
I got an idea.
Take a picture of your issue and then date on it and show the police that those holes have been there.
That's why we got right here. I got holes in my laser.
But when we zero in the bowels, using my laser, it's in, it's in the, the bolt is in the crossbow.
That's only where you can zero back.
I see. And only you can zero this guy in with the pin, is that you've got to put pin.
I don't have a cop, see you, put it that way in.
You're not sure. I draw back and you're not sure.
You're still not shooting, you're not shooting.
No, but what happens at the top feed you pull it back like this making sure it's really
Then you're good yeah, but it's the one I'm talking about
But all you movies is like, right, they start to talk back and double see what you're looking at.
I ain't shot it yet.
All right, that's real simple.
Mr. Douglas, I think you can work with the police.
We're going to move.
Well, I'm just saying it's crazy.
Think you could work it out.
Thank you.
Appreciate that.
You're turkey.
Gobble gobble.
So, next we'll go on an executive session.
You guys got a second?
Do you have one?
Go to the comment.
Okay, you didn't sign in.
I think we extended that courtesy to Mr. Francis.
Well, that was on agenda item.
That's right.
Well, this can be on that same agenda item if you like.
Okay.
Brad Johnson, 1161 St. Mary's.
I set that codes board.
Hi.
Appreciate it, Rhanna.
I mean that zoning board, planning committee, I abstain from that vote.
The considerations weren't just the fact that we had a great deal of youth and turnout for
that hearing.
The considerations were for the fact that the next step to answer has been here for 20 years.
They bring 60 plus patrons, a couple of times a week over here to jump to the city from
line, I'm Manhattan, all the surrounding communities, they do their shopping here while the
kids are dance.
I mean, there were some considerations that you guys might have overlooked a little bit.
I mean,
I think I'd appreciate if you guys did give that consideration, maybe it stood behind
your board, but you did a point, maybe send it back to us, maybe consult with us, I understand
the votes done. I think it was a little bit biased considering that Mr. Gordon, you're a tenant,
and you made that emotion. You're a tenant of Mr. Francis. There's a little conflicting
in my opinion. And you also advocate for more youth activities. There's many of those patrons
that will not be back here when that tattoo goes in. Just letting you know. So let's find
Thank you.
Now we'll go to executive session.
I want to read the.
Through that commission recess for an executive session for many.
How long do you think?
I think 10 to 15 minutes.
10 to 15 minutes.
If you need to you can extend it later.
Come back and extend it.
minutes at nine or eight fifty five p.m. to include the City Manager, the City Attorney,
the Society of Finance Director, and the Justice City Department Fire Chief,
thought with the City Attorney regarding the pinion litigation in twenty four
dash CV-15 and the ongoing EMS Negotiate Theory County. The justification for the
executive session is to protect the Attorney client privilege and is provided by KSA-75-4319v2.
The open meeting is to resume this room at 905 p.m.
For a second.
It's been a month and a second and a further discussion.
I'll fair the motion.
Respond by saying aye.
I'll close.
Excuse me.
This is not a part of our unifactor.
No actions are...
I was falling asleep from my...
Venture all the nations.
Be careful with that.
Here you say that too.
That's all of you.
I just started now.
Care for back in session.
I moved to return something executive session where no decisions were made and no actions were taken.
Your second?
Second.
The move and second.
Any further discussion?
Have we ever say aye?
Aye.
Opposed?
Abstain.
Thank you.
We'll move on to commissioner comments.
Mr. Goodeers.
All right.
Oh.
I don't know how long time since we had this meeting.
All right.
weeks plus, right, with the extra week we had in there. But I know we had Easter. We had the
death of Pope Francis. A lot of activities happening in the community. I want to give a shout
out to Gary County,
a historic society who put on the Gary County Pioneer Days school days.
Over 600 people shut up to that. It was a great event out there.
I know someone's going to talk about it.
I'll let Josh talk about 12th Street, the grand opening pad, yes.
But then, I also seen something on Brigade Baseball is coming back and they're looking
for some sponsors that will help shout through some of the players.
So, host families, host families, thank you, perfect.
So if you're able to, so please, shout through these young players, and then lastly, I just
I want to see a great job to Josh and his team out there,
the parks looking great, and you heard the comments now,
they're just going around there, and there's also a bunch
of things that activities happen in the next Saturday.
Let me get this right.
Balloons, bands, and barbecues down at the airfield,
so go support that to be a lot of fun.
Armed Forces Day on May 17 as well, so that's it.
Thank you.
Mr. Paneer, I'm usually don't have a lot to say,
I'm going to have a lot of several topics tonight.
When we update...
These codes.
We need to give consideration if they don't have a grandfather clause in them. And what that means is if you like your car as a gas engine in it.
If the government will come and tell you, you have to get rid of your gas engine and in electric motor. That's what we call a violation of due process. You're taking a property without compensation.
We've had someone come to town and one
to spend about a million dollars on a building from
out of town and they were told that they had to put
in fire suppression.
I don't know all the nuances, but I think we need to have
some kind of a standard whereby there are houses that have
knob and tube electrical services in them.
this. We don't tell them you have to upgrade your electrical system. We don't do that because
it's not the American way. So I think we need to consider some of these codes. They've kind
of gotten away from these. I think these styles could verify that they're in the past. They've been
grandfathered clauses in international codes. So I want, you know, just think about the concept
when people have a building and they want to sell it to someone and someone wants to make a
or use that's authorized in the zone that we don't make them spend millions of dollars to bring up that property to a current code.
So that's number one. Just think about that. Number two, I would like to ask if there's some kind of consensus that we could do something to honor DJ Giddens who was a product of this community who's been drafted into the NFL,
whether we give him opportunity for a key of the city or a resolution, wishing him well.
I'd like to do you have any problem with that, something that would recognize him,
maybe he could come here and we could have the mayor present him with a key of the city.
As he gets, we get a lot of good press when he's been playing for all of the mentioned
junctions city and he's really humble young man and I think we ought to recognize him.
So I'm going to give it to something.
Coronado Park, it looks really great.
We need to, there's been a lot of use of that
with that new equipment, somewhat surprised at how much use.
We need to do something with the tennis court, though.
And we need to, we need to, when we do something,
we talked about taking care of what we have.
It's really nice.
We have a good nice playground, but right up
to, we've got a tennis court that doesn't look good.
And I think we need to focus on when we do something we do it comprehensively, and the street,
right by that, I talked to the mention this to the city manager, the street right by that,
from Jefferson down to Washington, has some horrible pot holes that is totally eroding, and it needs to be on the list.
It's not right to have something really nice, and then something that's not what we wanted to be.
Just go look at that by Casey's, go look at that street.
It's really bad.
I've got a list.
I'm going to give the city manager to supplement
some of the things that we've done.
And we're going to do.
But I think we really need to pay attention to places around
the post office, around places where
the community gathers that are important.
And a lot less fix them up.
It's not leaving them off the list, just because they're
maybe hard to spec.
You know, it's easy to spec a road that's a mile long.
It's not so easy, necessarily to spec an intersection.
The one on spruce, going down spruce by spruce and Madison.
That's embarrassing.
And across from the county building, that curve has been broken for months.
I mean, it's okay to say we're short-staffed, but to have it look like that.
months and months and months, it's embarrassing. A lot of people go there and they get, they get
through driver's license. We need to take pride. We need the city needs to do and demonstrate
leadership. If we want other people to fix up their things, we need to have our our act together
as a community as a city. Finally,
two things. I'd like the people on Grand Avenue that own
buildings. They've really done a nice job the staff with Wildcat Motors. We've got a few
tires left there, but that place has really been cleaned up.
And we need other owners, a long-grand Avenue,
to do some things, to whether they paint, clean, fix up,
and it would really help.
I'm just getting that wildcat motors cleaned up.
It looks so much, I encourage you to drive out there
and see what's happened.
I'm sure it wasn't easy, and there's some other places
that need attention.
But I hope that we can be gentle when we deal with people,
But at the same time, get the job done.
And finally, that gentleman that did the restoration
of that restaurant across from Conza,
if you remember that, he said, I want to renovate this property
so I can live in it, and then I'm going to open a shop.
Well, I didn't recall that we put some kind
of a time limit on me, I talked to him.
And he's doing this renovation out of his pocket.
And he had to move back out to Milford, so it slowed down his renovation of that property.
So I'd like to take another look at that and give him a little more time to, so he could move
into that property and still work on that.
The rental part that he did, I mean, the residential part that he did looks really good.
So I want to thank Cuanus for the work that they did on Coronado Park.
It really looks good.
Thank you.
That's all.
Thank you.
What are they talking about putting pickleball or something?
Yeah, he's got.
He's got plants for it over here.
Yes.
Cuanus.
We were there for the ribbon cutting.
I thought that's what they brought up that they were going to redo that area up there.
Yes.
about, but you put pickleball courts up the history park, right?
Yes, so they all have lines already, but this been, I don't know, some of these when they start to, the surface starts to get away from you.
You could, I think there's got to be some kind of a treatment that you can put on it rather than just let it sit there and just blow up.
So we need to pay attention, because it's expensive to do those court.
So that's all. Thank you.
And I remember we did put the time frame on a general right avenue by the six months.
That's what he told six months, so they didn't anything.
Chris, originally first came to you guys.
It was done with Mr. Dinkle.
He was given a year's time span that it done.
At that time he was making no renovations to the actual restaurant itself.
He only made renovations living court, which was not the original agreement that you guys
from an interim to have a special use.
I think he said he was going to do the residence first.
Negative.
And then he brought it back to me because it was that he could not
have an extension on that original special use.
So he went back to the B's, the A, asked for a new special use.
I said that I would be OK granting him a six-month extension on the special use
for him to live orders.
As long as he was making renovations to the restaurant and that the restaurant would
up and running within the new gear. He did not make any movements with any permits or anything
that towards the restaurant, so therefore his special use expired and was taken away.
So that's why he was having to move. Now during that time that he had the special use,
instead of making the repairs on the restaurant that he owned, he was actually out in the community
helping other restaurants and other organizations instead of working on his own property.
So, again, I think it was his decision on being able to have this special use and not
utilizing it to his potential.
Therefore, I had to uphold, guys, put me in charge of, and that's why he had no longer
lives there.
So, he'd have to reapply.
He would have to, if he would like to do it, he would have to reapply the BTA would have to,
or excuse me, the planning commission would have to grant him the recommendation to bring
forth to you guys.
And then, again, as you guys see tonight, you can overrule it, you guys can agree with
organs or you can go with the recommendation of the planning commission.
Thank you for a clarify that. Very well. Thank you sir. I do we have done some stuff on that one.
I'm done with my call. I mean.
Questioner. Thank you. As Commissioner Geteris stated earlier there's been a lot going on
especially in the last three weeks that we got, which kind of felt weird. A lot of people came
to me last week. Like you guys are not meeting tonight. I'm like no, it's not the first
tools they had a month. But Jack K had their talent show posted by Mr. Rahim Milton.
And it was a, I mean, it was phenomenal. I mean, those kids really just rocked out. I mean,
the sea of talent that we have in juxtapes city is truly amazing. I was not able to attend
the global party that night. And I'm really kicking myself about it because I've been advocating for
But I was at the talent show and I saw it so I tried to go and get a couple of my little cousins to go and by the time we made it
We just didn't make it in time. I also attended the night at the shelter
I'll try to put on here and just to see the work that those guys are doing and the things that they're trying to do to get back
You know and full standing
Operating as a 24 hour shelter. I am totally in support with them. I really enjoyed myself. I thought it was an amazing event to see
The ribbon cut in that corner, not all park really went well.
I like that, I like all the updates, I'm getting a lot of feedback on that.
I'd like to give thanks to Mr. Marvin Williams, Mr. Playboy.
They both worked down at the 12th Street Rec Center.
Marvin Williams is no longer employed to parks and rec,
but you might as well say he is the way he's there,
the way he's coaching kids, the way, you know, the kids' respect to him.
And our UV's a leader for our UV.
I just want to thank both of those gentlemen, Mr. Clayborne,
does an excellent job.
We're keeping the 12th Street wreck and check
and safe for all of our youth to attend.
So I want to say thank you to both of those guys.
I also don't want to put anyone on the spot,
but I don't want to ask Andrew,
if you wouldn't mind on your comment,
if you can kind of address some of these problems
or having with technical issues,
I'm getting that so much
and people just want transparency on it.
So if you don't mind,
don't have for me, I really appreciate you, sir.
other than that love juncture city continue to keep moving. Thank you. Thank you.
That's one of the junior or two C awards ceremony. Really amazing, a bunch of kids we have in
our town. I guess the thing that really got me is how they cheer for each other. I mean it was up and
down. It was a two-hour award ceremony and everybody walked away with something and it didn't
or who the kid was, everybody else was in their court just cheering them on.
It was really amazing to see.
I had an idea with our houses that come to us for demolition was I think there are some
of these properties that might be salvageable and even though a property owner may not be here
or whatever may not have the funds, could we have a group of contractors that the code
if I could call to say communicate with the property
under to purchase their property as is.
Not for crazy money, but what it's going to cost
to turn this thing down.
And I mean, if they can get a reasonable price,
then they run a bit, but run a bit,
we keep a property on the tax rolls.
So before it even comes to us to schedule demolition
and all that, have that like an in-between step.
If we have builders in good standing here in junction city,
we have a list of the co-director can use to go through and say,
hey, this house is under our watch.
It's coming to do.
Here's the property owner's phone number.
Would you like to have a chance at that?
It's just to something I was thinking,
I'm just, how do we keep from just going from a wreck
to tearing something down, then we have an empty lot.
So just something to think about, I'd like the Coast Director and other staff kind of put
their heads together and see if I'd be doing, let's see, ten of the opening of the
Internet, the Twister Internet Gaming Center, the Twister Community Center, that was
really quite an event.
The Cornell Department looks amazing, we're getting more arcs work done, I'm glad that
the majority of the commission supported that stuff.
I think it's really important if it was up to me.
We'd be buying parking equipment every year,
put into his town because you get so much back.
People see that and they want to get their kids out
and do stuff.
I mean, just a few days at that.
Equipment's been a coronado.
Man, there's people there all the time,
which is awesome.
So congrats to Josh and his team
and all the hard work you guys are putting in.
So that's really great.
That's all I have.
That's really good.
All the comments that the commissioners are making, especially Mr. Paner, about the conditions of certain streets, alleys and parks in the city or spot on, you're not wrong.
But the issue is not in your lane, it's my lane. The reason it's not in your lane is I haven't presented the information to you for a decision on how much money I'm going to be asking for to correct these situations.
Next meeting on the 20th, I will have a PowerPoint slide for you on me asking you for money and support to fix all these.
Right now, I'll be briefing you next week on that and I'm looking.
That's all I have thanks.
Thank you.
As discussed, I'm going to meet with a mediator on the MS litigation tomorrow.
That takes us.
And then my end of next week will have things turned in on the BZA on the test not litigation.
and basically doing a trial and simply a facts and trying to judge them on that one.
Just give them where we're at, so.
Thank you.
Go.
Mr. Wilcox, this one's ideas? Mr. Osmour.
closer to the interchange. We're within their criteria within a thousand fifteen hundred feet or
whatever. We talked to Brahms, who on the lot next to Arby didn't want nothing to do with it.
Talk to Crocker Burl, didn't want nothing to do with it. Talk to Greg Young, hands who had the
truck stop, didn't want anything to do with it. We talked to Walmart, didn't want anything to do with it.
So we've made an effort. We've made a submittal. He was a million dollar project with 75
I've come from K-Dop, 25 from the city, but then there was another avenue for 12% of that money.
You could come back from K-Dop because they were dealing with federal funds.
There are companies out there at that time that would buy that 25% interest from the city,
wouldn't know anything in the day.
Just thought that through out.
We have tried for an EV station.
We wanted level 3s.
K-Dop wanted 2 level 3s and 2s slow.
Nobody's going to sit there for me to ask.
with a car chart and let's stay on all night.
But then they're got to get up the middle of the night
to let somebody else in.
So we were pushing pretty hard for the level three.
We got plans prepared, made it all the semettals,
but for some reason, they didn't build right enough,
close enough to the energy.
We have made an effort, and again,
I'd recommend doing it again,
but if there's the grant money coming back up,
because there are many dollar projects.
When you start putting the numbers together.
And that's on hold right now.
Yeah, the whole thing is wonderful.
Anyhow, I just wanted to brief you on that.
Thank you.
This is a movie of a new HR director.
Would you like to introduce her?
Krista, please stand up.
I told her I wouldn't put her on the spot tonight, but I guess I am now.
Krista, very frapp.
Arizona.
Moving up here soon and she is our new HR director.
And she's awesome.
You
guys are like my second time here,
but I really enjoy who I'm working with.
I see a lot of opportunity to streamline and make the employee experience and their recruiting
experience better and get out into the community and see what we can do about training
up some of our young and start filling some of these roles that we'll need.
So I'm just really happy to be here.
So thank you.
Thank you.
Welcome.
Mr. Gray.
It's a bunch of events.
We have come up.
It's been City on May 16th.
We have adult skate night from 6 to 9.
for May 16th, sorry, the Friday, and May 17th, the Felix Knives Foundation is putting on a
into school eight fundraiser at Skin City, and then on May 17th in the morning of the community
center, we have our big bricks and trucks event in public department, please department,
we're all bringing vehicles to that. So the kids can see them all, and then on May 30th we have
an open state from 5 to 9, and then our glow party went extremely well. We had over 100 kids in the
Everyone's aiming that comes out for this, there's a lot more people not thought there was going to be there
It went really good. I really appreciate everybody for that
Like that we're meeting I mean in the contractor Thursday for the tennis courts that corner on Hammond Park to get those looked at and see what we can cost and I'll ask them about
The longevity of them because I mean even we had some mess ups at like on Park they've had to come back and fix because they can catch him and repaint over
I'm so looking at in the future
Yeah, it's in July.
I need to paint those backwards too.
Yeah.
For sure, no.
These are a lot of work there.
Sure.
I don't have that any.
But I'll be giving you a call.
That's okay.
I'm here to speak for the.
I'm going to continue to do it till we all get our.
Back together.
And then we've hired a recreation coordinator for the 12th
community center.
Name is Jackie.
She's starting to get her along.
Currently she's with the AmeriCorps.
Working out of the nature center.
she does summer camps out there and tons of trail working programs, and she's very excited.
And she's not like I said, I told you her eyes lit up when I told her we had a break
of bands, so she can take the kids around at parks during summer camps, except that we're
going to start doing. And then we have hired a gonna hire a golf course superintendent named Tim
Rubel, and he's going to start mid this month, and Nick Younger is a previous parks director,
and golf course superintendent, I highly recommend it to them. So that's it.
Thank you.
Let's try Barra.
Chief Nichols?
Mr. Schragn guess.
I think you've had enough time with the micro and another.
This is a few things, Mayor.
Just so everybody knows the weather is getting warmer.
So please do you do diligence when you're going out to swim.
Also with that being stated, this is the busiest part of my department season.
We will be traveling around looking for bright issues,
All grass trash trash things of that nature when you guys are making your
Cuts on your lawn and your shrubs be sure that you blow them back into your yard
They cannot be staying in the street or washing down in the wastewater
It damages the wastewater plants and things of that nature and it's also an ordinance within the city
Number two of the last thing I will state is just on the few comments from the commissioners when I am updating the codes
I've already made it clear to my people that we are going to head and do just what you are
saying, Mr. Nare. The property that you are talking with the new codes it has given me
an easier access of making the judgements not pushing young entrepreneurs or businesses out of
the city. I've been working closely with the ICC writer out of which at all and also which
talk of community development director. They write 100 minutes a year for their codes. That is
something that you guys can also do. I make myself do as well when these issues come up. Again,
I know there's been several issues that were brought up in our code from some of the
developers. It is easiest me going to them coming to you and saying, hey, I believe this should be
an ordinance. Allow me to do the research and then bring that ordinance for to you that you can make
best judgeman of what is being built in our city. So I will be doing that my due diligence when
I bring this code aboard and when I appoint or when I have the applications of your due diligence
point that committee as we were doing. And then the last thing that was brought up. If you do make repairs
to your house and you open in part of the house up and your code is out of date, not in tube,
You will have to change it according to the ordinance that this commission has put forth.
As soon as that wall is opened up and I see it or my inspector see it, it does have to be replaced.
It is part of the code.
So say that I'm coming in here and I'm about to replace that wall right there.
As soon as I open that dry wall up and I look at the electoral and if it is out of the code that is adopted within the city,
I have to let that client know that they have to bring it up today.
They do not have to do the whole house because I cannot assume done through the oil, but as soon as I can see it or my inspector see it
It has to come up to code
That is all I have for tonight. Thank you. Chief like us
So this degree community health care foundation raised a lot of money over a thousand over their sponsor supporters and for last year
And we have 24 of these little guys
These are the AEDs, they're in RB equals PD.
And some of the Parks and Recs buildings as well,
as county, that nature and milk are center.
So, they're getting easier and easier to use.
If a child you push the child,
but tells you when the shock pushes flashing the shock button,
but these are AEDs that are getting used
around our city and counties.
Thank you, Bill, care foundation.
Very good.
I turn around, but it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
Let's try it out tonight.
Mr. Nero?
All right, so I got two things.
One is the audio visual for the room here.
The live stream failed again tonight.
Last Friday we did have a local company that specializes in
AB equipment come in, review the room.
They are working on a plan of what changes we could do to upgrade the mics,
the TVs, the whole system.
A lot of the equipment that we have was stuff that's left over from
the commission used to meet over in the actual municipal building and so it's kind of out of date.
It's time for an upgrade.
And so we're working on that process.
We have another company, a second company, a space out of what kind of which Tyre is going to come in.
Give the 15th to take the look as well and give us their recommendations.
So we can have kind of opposing bids to kind of look at what we'll need to move forward on.
And then the second thing is last Thursday, we move our email system over to junctioncity-ts.gov.
So we are using our.gov email addresses which match our city website.
If you send to the ACTS.com emails, they should still come through though.
So there shouldn't be any disruption in email anymore.
We did have some issues last week in the beginning of this week that we've been working through on emails getting bounced back.
But I think we're pretty much good to go there now.
There might still be ones or two of these out there and address those as they come up.
That's all, yeah.
Thank you.
Sir, motion to adjourn.
All the favors, yeah?
All right.
We're up.
I'm gonna get more of you.
Thank you.
I like you.