1 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,960 e 2 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,920 e 3 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,920 e 4 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,880 e e 5 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:40,319 90 well 90 minutes but I 6 00:02:40,959 --> 00:02:49,319 don't it are you ready okay and we're back we reconvene the Ken County Board 7 00:02:47,959 --> 00:02:55,480 of Commissioners meeting in a work session regarding the 8 00:02:52,599 --> 00:03:00,720 budget Mr Baker good afternoon I think it's 9 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:05,000 afternoon uh after 12 uh Kelsey Waker candy County 10 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:11,280 Administrator uh I am here with uh department heads and staff to present 11 00:03:07,239 --> 00:03:15,000 the 2025 budget we have um a presentation for you all you have 12 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:22,239 binders that were handed out in your seats they have um they have the this 13 00:03:18,879 --> 00:03:25,720 presentation so you have a a paper copy they have the spreadsheet that was 14 00:03:23,799 --> 00:03:30,000 included in the board packet so you have that more in detail um and they have 15 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:35,879 some other information that you'll and then they have the full ifs 2025 16 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:40,480 preliminary budget this is not the official certified official budget this 17 00:03:38,599 --> 00:03:46,239 is our this is actually our third working draft there's already probably 18 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:51,599 maybe um some changes that will be made to this so just remember in today's 19 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:55,519 discussion um the overall departments those are pretty much solidified that's 20 00:03:53,400 --> 00:04:00,200 why we're presenting this information but there are some other maybe quazi 21 00:03:57,599 --> 00:04:05,720 government um health insurance that are still kind of fluid numbers within this 22 00:04:02,799 --> 00:04:12,680 budget um that we haven't finalized quite yet Minister Baker before you go 23 00:04:08,599 --> 00:04:17,919 into the kind of the uh yeah the details uh give us a quick background of the 24 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:22,240 process how when you start how how you process with the different departments 25 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:26,680 and how you arrive at at this preliminary I was going to do that oh 26 00:04:24,639 --> 00:04:30,680 good I didn't see it on on the it's not on 27 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:36,720 there um so the 2025 budget 28 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:40,840 Focus so when I start meeting with each department um initially we have it on 29 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:45,400 the agenda the department had agenda in May and we start scheduling those 30 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:50,240 one-on-one meetings with each department in June I like to have initial meetings 31 00:04:48,280 --> 00:04:54,039 with department heads just to have an idea that's when we're just having a 32 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:58,880 conversation we don't have maybe numbers finalized by any means but we're just 33 00:04:56,199 --> 00:05:03,440 having conversations So within those conversations I have an idea that we're 34 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:08,759 going to be doing a landfill we're looking at a cell construction so Gary 35 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:13,039 then tells me that's a big number right and so then we're looking at Human 36 00:05:10,199 --> 00:05:18,520 Services and when in talking with each department in June and July I look for 37 00:05:15,919 --> 00:05:22,400 common themes and at your rad and Bridge work session Mel talked about 38 00:05:20,280 --> 00:05:28,319 preservation and planning for the county moving forward so that process entails 39 00:05:25,759 --> 00:05:34,000 meeting with department heads in June meeting with them possibly again for a 40 00:05:30,479 --> 00:05:38,000 second or a third meeting in July and really that's what it entails it's 41 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:43,520 meeting with the staff figuring out where we want to come and present our 42 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:49,319 preliminary budget fine-tuning FTE how many are we um how many should we 43 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:54,560 approve for the 2025 budget what is being requested um and what's the 44 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:58,400 analysis is there background information of why it's being requested are we not 45 00:05:56,639 --> 00:06:03,199 meeting deadlines things like that are we looking at technology and so all 46 00:06:01,479 --> 00:06:08,880 those things come into play but really June and July um all the finance staff 47 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:14,400 administrator are work and department heads are fine-tuning next year's budget 48 00:06:12,759 --> 00:06:18,840 sometimes we have to wait for numbers and so we can't put things in um and 49 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:24,759 really that's the overall process you really work on the budget from when it's 50 00:06:21,599 --> 00:06:28,160 approved to when it you're um continuously there's never a time when 51 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:32,520 you're not necessarily working on a budget and that not just probably the 52 00:06:30,639 --> 00:06:36,599 administrator that's our CFO that's our finance staff that's our department 53 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:42,000 heads I think this we do a really good job of being um staying on top of the 54 00:06:39,599 --> 00:06:47,039 budget and staying on top of the planning moving forward and so one of 55 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:52,680 the common themes surrounding 2025 budget was planning um you'll hear Scott 56 00:06:51,039 --> 00:06:56,919 from our it Department talk about planning with technology we need of the 57 00:06:55,120 --> 00:07:02,400 game and maybe spend a little bit more to get us up to speed on spending uh 58 00:06:59,599 --> 00:07:07,120 planning with our Levy and Reserve goals um later on this year you'll hear with 59 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:11,319 our financial audit for 2023 where we're coming in with our reserves you heard 60 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:14,919 from CLA last year that we have healthy reserves the recommended amount is three 61 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:20,240 to five months we're sitting about eight and a half months so we have overall 62 00:07:17,039 --> 00:07:24,560 very healthy reserves uh Implement new technology um I've said before we 63 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:28,680 continue to analyze FTE and that's something that our HR department is 64 00:07:26,199 --> 00:07:33,280 continuously doing within departments if they're needed if or not how do we look 65 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:37,759 at that do we are we understaffed are we overstaffed how can we collaborate with 66 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:42,280 other departments how do we utilize technology so this all plays a role with 67 00:07:39,919 --> 00:07:45,879 our planning department restructures building assessments and staff 68 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:50,120 development one thing that I think as the as an administrator I think is truly 69 00:07:47,759 --> 00:07:55,400 important is professional development we can't expect staff to be supervisors 70 00:07:53,159 --> 00:08:00,360 when we have not done the work to train them and set them up for Success um to 71 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:06,479 be a successful super supervisor without that training and so one thing we're 72 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:11,400 looking at for 2025 and this is kind of a common them again in all departments 73 00:08:08,759 --> 00:08:16,000 is Staff Development and providing professional development trainings for 74 00:08:13,479 --> 00:08:23,400 All County Employees these are preliminary numbers 75 00:08:19,759 --> 00:08:29,759 um as of right now the proposed budget is at 48,4 30,000 that's the gross Levy 76 00:08:27,759 --> 00:08:36,479 um this year our program our County program Aid increased um 77 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:42,800 overall last year we received about 3.2 million this year we receiving 78 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:46,959 3.3 as of right now um with these numbers in the budget um we're sitting 79 00:08:45,279 --> 00:08:53,360 at an eight and a half percent which I think is uh a really good area to start 80 00:08:50,959 --> 00:08:57,279 and so on today's agenda we're going to hear from the budget planning from our 81 00:08:54,920 --> 00:09:02,000 department heads um after they're done I'll kind of go over and re recoup 82 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:05,519 everything go over some Levy amounts where we're sitting at where some 83 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:09,000 recommendations would be and I'm also going to be looking for feedback from 84 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:14,839 the County Board where do you want the levy to come in at um and that will help 85 00:09:12,079 --> 00:09:20,320 guide these final this final month um for putting in numbers and putting in a 86 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:23,440 preliminary Levy amount um we'll go over wages the levy history and then if 87 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:28,040 there's any questions um and so from here I'm going 88 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:31,040 to hand it off to Val our County Assessor 89 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:46,120 morning or good afternoon good afternoon Mr chair and Commissioners I am Valore 90 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:53,360 County Assessor and I'm just going to go over some basic information here I big 91 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:59,399 part of our budget is um staff and we do have to go through a lot of training um 92 00:09:55,680 --> 00:10:02,800 we do have um this is our first year of true 93 00:10:00,519 --> 00:10:06,920 County this is our first year of true County so we no longer receive the 94 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:12,839 income payments from our billing for our services so that was for 2024 and moving 95 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:17,040 forward that will also remain the same that we no longer receive any income 96 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:22,720 from our billing but when we did take on the 4,400 additional Parcels we did not 97 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:27,800 um add in a full-time employee to replace our local assessors each of my 98 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:32,600 staff did agree to take on the extra three 630 part Parcels amongst the seven 99 00:10:30,519 --> 00:10:37,959 staff that are doing the on the ground work and viewing and inspecting the 100 00:10:34,519 --> 00:10:42,800 parcels um but by doing true County we are improving our efficiency improving 101 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:47,880 our quality of assessment and this is a great opportunity to communicate with 102 00:10:45,560 --> 00:10:51,800 the taxpayers of these districts and you know sell our services and so they 103 00:10:50,079 --> 00:10:56,040 understand where we're going and what we're doing we did also have a really 104 00:10:53,480 --> 00:11:00,480 nice article that showed up in the paper um last Friday so I don't know if you 105 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:06,360 had an opportunity to read that also our staff um is a huge investment for our 106 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:11,000 office because of the um the first three years of any staff it takes about 107 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:15,279 $10,000 to train them to get them to the three-year point where they're mandated 108 00:11:12,839 --> 00:11:20,240 AMA lure and then after that we have about 50 to 60 hours of continuing 109 00:11:17,399 --> 00:11:26,880 education for each staff after that so education is a huge piece of our budget 110 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:33,200 and um we have had you know wages and benefits is retention has a huge part um 111 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:37,720 that you know as a county that we haven't had any change in staff and that 112 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:41,440 is a very good thing for us um other costs in our office are obviously the 113 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:45,800 printing costs of valuation notices that go out that's a a fairly large expense 114 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:51,440 and then the appraisal and tax court costs which um that is in the budget and 115 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:57,800 you know if it's needed we use it and based on you know what petitions we do 116 00:11:53,800 --> 00:12:02,800 get over the year and that is about what I have for you 117 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:06,560 thank you um any questions and before I before I open the floor for questions or 118 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:13,079 comments um I think I heard you say almost out of the out of the U get-go 119 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:18,360 was staff is the primary expense and I'm sure you got pencils and need equipment 120 00:12:15,560 --> 00:12:22,920 but basically staff is is the major portion of your budget yes that's 121 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:27,760 correct all right any questions or coms 122 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:34,880 and uh go ahead well thank you Mr chair 123 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:40,560 first off nice article in the West Central Tribune very well done trying to 124 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:46,160 explain a very complicated process and that was very well done um so don't have 125 00:12:44,199 --> 00:12:50,639 your budget in front of us of course but you're not adding any staff then no we 126 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:55,199 just taking on all this additional on top of this all correct you're still 127 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:59,880 going to be able to try to do uh reviews every uh five years all of them yes we 128 00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:04,000 have to visit properties that's State mandated and 129 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:08,760 then when when we get audited I have to report what hasn't been inspected in 130 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:14,959 that threeyear time and we actually had three Parcels on my audit last week so 131 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:19,800 so far so good so I I think one of the questions that's going to be begging all 132 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:26,480 of us is your budget go up or down or stay the same as last year it went up 133 00:13:22,959 --> 00:13:30,720 like 360 thou going forward to the new year it's going to stay flat from last 134 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:35,680 year it went up I think we got for the two County yeah what yeah and that was 135 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:41,399 in the board pment based off each department so that's also in your binder 136 00:13:38,959 --> 00:13:46,519 as well and also was in the board packet and so this time we kind of want to flow 137 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:52,440 through this the directors for doing their presentations and so I think if 138 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:55,959 there are any FTE that are added that'll be talked about but overall there 139 00:13:54,399 --> 00:14:01,519 weren't many the the reason I asked there 140 00:13:58,399 --> 00:14:05,160 weren't any is added for 2025 the reason I asked the question is because in your 141 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:10,959 uh early in the presentation you're going to ask us for um our thoughts on 142 00:14:08,639 --> 00:14:16,759 is 8.5 the right number or isn't it and so it does relate to you know the 143 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:21,519 Departments is because we did have a significant uh wage and benefit increase 144 00:14:19,759 --> 00:14:27,519 last year which I assume comes out of the Department's budgets those 145 00:14:23,839 --> 00:14:32,680 increases thank you all right any other questions for Bale well thank you very 146 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:37,880 much thank you and I agree that that article really helps if people read it 147 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:42,680 uh helps them to understand the process because I just got that recently about 148 00:14:40,399 --> 00:14:46,959 why is my evaluation so much higher than someone else's and we have to do it one 149 00:14:45,399 --> 00:14:52,800 at a time if they read the article we can educate them several of yes thank 150 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:56,279 you all right up next Mark Thompson auditor treasur 151 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,120 what do you hit just return 152 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:15,120 here perfect good morning good 153 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:19,880 afternoon uh trying to keep this here short uh again our the I'm I'm speaking 154 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:24,079 not only for the auditor office today but also including the records and the 155 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:29,040 license bureau departments um our primary focus is 156 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:32,839 service to the public and taxpayers candyi 157 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:37,480 County we're also responsible for the collection and distribution of property 158 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:42,360 taxes to cities townships and schools and to the various funds in the 159 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:46,560 county uh we're responsible for paying the County's bills in a time of 160 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:50,880 Mayor responsible for submitting an annual financial statement to the County 161 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:57,120 residents showing the County's fiscal Health we oversee the county election 162 00:15:53,399 --> 00:16:01,399 processes to assure accurate election results we provide reporting services 163 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:07,040 for property transactions such as deeds and mortgages 164 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:14,319 and verifying with that we verify correct legal descriptions on those doc 165 00:16:10,959 --> 00:16:19,399 documents we record Vital Statistics birth and death 166 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:25,000 records marriages military discharges and notary 167 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:30,440 commissions the license bureau they provide licensing services such as 168 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:35,240 vehicle registration and title transfer automobile license tabs renewals renewal 169 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:40,839 of driver's license and DNR watercraft snowmobiles and ATV 170 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,839 registration and title 171 00:16:41,399 --> 00:16:54,160 transfers primary increase in in the auditor recorders and the license bureau 172 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:54,160 departments is primarily um 173 00:16:55,480 --> 00:17:04,160 payroll we also continuously look at the auditors and the records and the license 174 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:09,520 bu staff duties and processes to find ways to be more 175 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:13,000 efficient budget amounts outside of payroll are fairly consistent from year 176 00:17:11,679 --> 00:17:18,679 to year while taking on inflationary 177 00:17:15,439 --> 00:17:24,240 results so we do have some some increases but those are 178 00:17:21,679 --> 00:17:27,439 minimal um the budget for elections however will with the implementation of 179 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:33,080 newer technology advance ments to assure 180 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:38,679 election security we'll see costs rising in the future in future election 181 00:17:36,360 --> 00:17:44,840 Cycles we are focused on applying for any and all grants that come available 182 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:52,360 to offset those Rising costs associated with election equipment and software and 183 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:57,440 with that are there any questions again uh I think the the significant change in 184 00:17:54,640 --> 00:18:00,660 our budget is due to payroll we do have increases in other areas but those are 185 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:04,760 are [Music] 186 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:09,039 minimal Mr chair thank you I I appreciate those comments because one of 187 00:18:06,159 --> 00:18:14,320 my major concern is is that the payroll or uh salaries employees salaries are 188 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:19,440 placed on the levy and so we know that the levy number is really being used for 189 00:18:17,120 --> 00:18:24,640 that as much as possible so I really appreciate feedback from all the all the 190 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:30,080 people reporting today you know is a primary Le uh primary salaries or not so 191 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:36,480 thank you for sharing that yeah anyone else I'm just looking at so 192 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:40,280 when I when I typically look at a budget um it by the way it would be really nice 193 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:45,360 to have a percent increase or decrease so a percentage one but I look for flags 194 00:18:43,120 --> 00:18:50,600 and one of the things I saw here was one that went from 6,000 license buau from 195 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:56,520 6,000 to 55,000 um and so to me that's wow how 196 00:18:54,600 --> 00:19:00,679 come that such a and there's I'm sure a good uh reason for that like your 197 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:05,600 election year we're going to have a lot more expense than in a non-election year 198 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:10,840 but um which account number was that you said license I'm looking under license 199 00:19:07,799 --> 00:19:17,520 bureau I'm looking at colored sheet we got it's probably the synopsis of your 200 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,520 you know C was well 201 00:19:22,159 --> 00:19:30,280 you okay um I can look for it later but 202 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:36,919 those are the things that as I look at a summary of a budget um it's nice to see 203 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:42,520 the percent change or and the flaged items and so that one jumped out at me 204 00:19:39,039 --> 00:19:47,360 as a big a big change and always usually an explanation for it but curious what 205 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:53,840 that might be but we'll move on because of time no I think you had K do you know 206 00:19:50,679 --> 00:19:53,840 what the what is the act 207 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,880 title 42 208 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:07,559 it just says license bureau oh the oh the overall I see what you're talking 209 00:20:05,799 --> 00:20:14,360 about I okay I thought it was one particular li no no just the license bu 210 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:17,159 6600 to 55,000 sure yeah total I see all right thank you 211 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:29,799 y okay Human Resources is 212 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:34,440 Mart good afternoon Connie Mort uh Human Resources Director for candy oh high 213 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:40,039 County um mine is going to be a very short report I don't really have a lot 214 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:45,360 of increases in my budget outside of um the two staff members that are in my 215 00:20:41,679 --> 00:20:50,840 department myself and our HR generalists our HR generalist has also taken on uh 216 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:55,760 the additional responsibilities of payroll um so she does payroll from 217 00:20:53,240 --> 00:21:01,720 start to finish at this time um she had taken over part of it last year and now 218 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:08,840 she has taken over the entire process so that has run very much more smoothly uh 219 00:21:04,679 --> 00:21:14,600 without an increase in salary in my department things I'd like to uh kind of 220 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:20,200 highlight today for you is it's not on my slide but so far we have had 51 221 00:21:17,279 --> 00:21:26,880 postings uh job postings in the county to date uh that's in 222 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:32,400 2024 um and we also I guess again took on payroll 223 00:21:28,679 --> 00:21:36,799 right now um I am doing my recruiting and purchasing recruiting software 224 00:21:34,159 --> 00:21:44,000 through neogov and that is a line item on my budget as you probably see there 225 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:49,960 uh for 2024 it will be 15, 670 was my current outstanding bill in 2024 excuse 226 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:54,080 me um other ongoing expenditures for onboarding software starting in 227 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:58,840 26 it's we're still looking at some options 228 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:05,400 in that so we won't be ready to implement onboarding software to make 229 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:09,200 that a seamless um self-serving process until 230 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:14,640 2026 so for 2025 we won't have an expenditure for that but just for future 231 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:19,000 planning we will have uh an expenditure for onboarding software if we go down 232 00:22:16,559 --> 00:22:24,080 that road and that can be anywhere from one vendor is starting out at 233 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:30,039 $117,000 for onboarding software for a county of our size with the amount of 234 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:34,840 employees that we have to anywhere to $29,000 so it depends on your vendor and 235 00:22:32,799 --> 00:22:38,720 what some of those um processes look like and some of the other services that 236 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:41,799 they provide but those again are still in the planning stages and won't affect 237 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:46,320 the 2025 budget uh the expense of going paperless 238 00:22:44,360 --> 00:22:51,080 I know that it will talk a little bit about this too but we are looking at 239 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:59,000 what the indexing software and where those um records will um now be stored 240 00:22:56,679 --> 00:23:02,960 uh we would like to go paper l and that would be including our Personnel files 241 00:23:00,919 --> 00:23:06,799 and our payroll files if you've been in the administrative conference room you 242 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:11,400 see all of those file cabinets in there those are those are all paper and so 243 00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:16,640 that would be part of our process going forward then ongoing General and 244 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:22,039 Leadership training uh administrator Baker kind of touched on this a little 245 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:29,480 bit as well we are having a countywide mandatory um harassment training program 246 00:23:25,679 --> 00:23:34,760 here on Thursday it will be over at uh the Emergency Operations Center it is 247 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:40,159 mandatory for all employees if the employees cannot possibly be there 248 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:44,679 physically there will be a recorded one that will be um they will be required to 249 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:50,799 view and so we will do that through our no software as well uh the cost of that 250 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:54,880 is just over $3,000 that's going to be pretty representative of what any other 251 00:23:53,279 --> 00:23:58,880 trainings that we were able to get through this provider as well and so 252 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:04,159 we're looking at at doing doing some of those trainings in uh 253 00:24:01,559 --> 00:24:06,720 2025 and those are in my budget under Professional 254 00:24:07,919 --> 00:24:18,159 Services any other questions Mr chair thank you kind of like the last question 255 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:23,279 I see your budget is $3,000 under and with the salary increases and so forth 256 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:27,520 uh how did you accomplish that there was some is there one big item or something 257 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:34,039 no there was there was some line items that historically I had not used a lot 258 00:24:30,399 --> 00:24:41,000 of um and so I was able to cut some some fees there um I did reduce profession my 259 00:24:37,399 --> 00:24:45,240 professional um Services budget by a little bit but it was just it was maybe 260 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:51,880 three or four line items that I was able to historically just take down a little 261 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:57,960 bit so I don't have a very big budget so it's it's a it's a very small budget but 262 00:24:54,760 --> 00:25:01,840 uh over 200,000 so yes yes yeah good job thank you thank you any other questions 263 00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:07,039 yeah any other questions thanks Connie thank 264 00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:11,880 you I assume we're doing this in the order of what they're in our booklets so 265 00:25:09,159 --> 00:25:14,120 attorney Shane Baker County attorney Shane 266 00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:31,279 Baker Shane Baker candy County attorney on this year's budget we have no staff 267 00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:31,279 increases as far as positions no special 268 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:38,559 projects um most of our budget comes through salary and then there's some 269 00:25:36,679 --> 00:25:44,760 others a lot of that is driven sometimes by the case load and work we're 270 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:52,080 doing um we had some areas go up like Professional Services and books and 271 00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:57,159 employee travel um so my presentations is a little unique in the senses in the 272 00:25:54,960 --> 00:26:01,640 sense that I point out volatilities that can come up from 273 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:06,399 year to year time to time um first it's Technology based um from the time I've 274 00:26:04,679 --> 00:26:12,000 started in this office to now it's really gone from paperless to a lot of 275 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:15,039 processing by um electronic means so that means as you know a few years ago 276 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:22,279 we got a new case management software system fortunately we had a grant for 277 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:27,360 140,000 um during Co funding for that but that helps Drive other costs because 278 00:26:25,159 --> 00:26:32,679 now that's how the core operates business they're going to need need a 279 00:26:28,679 --> 00:26:36,000 new have juvenile filings by E charging so we need to get that although I think 280 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:42,080 I can get that under this year but that's an example of how the tech drives 281 00:26:39,039 --> 00:26:46,720 costs it can drive it because law enforcement gathers a lot of information 282 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:54,399 from body cams there's so much done that way these days um legal research is 283 00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:59,600 electronic so it's not book but it's um West 284 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:03,960 law and we do our research online of course they have almost like 285 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:09,880 these large Cable packages where they have all sorts of options 286 00:27:07,159 --> 00:27:14,320 that that's worth that's worth getting because you just very narrow it down to 287 00:27:11,679 --> 00:27:17,720 say just Minnesota law very narrow area it' be more 288 00:27:16,159 --> 00:27:24,080 prohibitive so um and then evidence making evidence 289 00:27:21,679 --> 00:27:28,840 for courts you know we may have situations where we got to remove or 290 00:27:25,919 --> 00:27:33,880 redact certain information from our data 291 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:38,840 so we will continue to see Tech kind of driving how our costs operate which 292 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:45,600 leads us into transcription um it's a lot of stuff's 293 00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:51,279 done by Body Cam and it's not the standard um voice activated digital or 294 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:54,600 recording equipment that makes transcriptions a little harder some of 295 00:27:53,039 --> 00:28:00,440 the equipment that um some law enforcement agencies 296 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:03,919 have used are not compatible for making transcriptions so that cost then gets 297 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:08,840 pushed down to us and we got to find providers to who do that not all those 298 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:14,240 there's some things Sheriff's Office Still Still does and some equipment but 299 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:18,399 that they do more than what other law enforcement agencies we work with do and 300 00:28:16,919 --> 00:28:23,159 of course with that driving certain cost for 301 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:28,640 needing the transcripts for use in court is we have a very diverse population in 302 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:33,000 this County so that leads to to our issue number three is translations um 303 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:38,600 whether it's our victim Services individuals meeting with Witnesses and 304 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:42,399 victims on cases and we need a translator there to provide that service 305 00:28:41,159 --> 00:28:47,360 or we need transcripts translated both with Spanish 306 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:52,279 and English on them to help us have the evidence we need for court um but that 307 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:57,080 also presents an opportunity maybe working with human services where we can 308 00:28:54,679 --> 00:29:01,919 maybe have economies of scale where how we go about getting 309 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:09,320 Services provided for translation um training that's been 310 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:15,720 discussed already a few times but um we certainly try to find as many lowcost 311 00:29:12,159 --> 00:29:20,399 items as we can but put on by the County attorneys Association but there are 312 00:29:17,159 --> 00:29:25,000 other Law related subjects for example I have two attorneys next month and I know 313 00:29:23,159 --> 00:29:30,799 Sheriff's Office is sending some people to a mental health and crime um 314 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:36,919 education training because we're seeing a lot of those issues pop up over and 315 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:42,000 over and over again in the community and staff are need to be trained to know how 316 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,000 to what's 317 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:51,880 the new issues in the field and be up to speed on those areas so it's not also on 318 00:29:50,279 --> 00:29:56,640 Law related subjects it's also on leadership since 319 00:29:53,760 --> 00:30:02,720 2016 I've been sending staff to Vision 24 de what's now the lead program there 320 00:29:59,559 --> 00:30:09,960 it's a leadership program and so we that's about 321 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:16,279 $1,100 per person per year but it's well worth it because whether their 322 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:19,720 department head or just a Frontline attorney they there leaders in the areas 323 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:24,559 where they're working and whether it's in court committee meetings what have 324 00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:28,480 you you need trained staff um and then that brings us to 325 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:33,519 Talent um and that's more that's more about 326 00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:38,960 turnover what I'm trying to say there and since last year we've been operating 327 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:44,919 an internship program we had one intern last summer we had one in the fall and 328 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:49,039 we had one this past summer and that's been beneficial in two ways we were able 329 00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:54,200 to fit that in our budget but we've had such turnover the 330 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:59,000 whole legal profession Prosecuting profession has seen a lot of Staffing 331 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:03,720 changes but this helped us weather the storm we had one attorney who left us in 332 00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:09,600 at the end of March but we had already lined up an intern for the summer so 333 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:15,480 that bridged us to our new person starting just a few weeks or a week 334 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,480 ago 335 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:24,600 um and that new person who started I should mention that's the one we had 336 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:29,279 interning this past fall so basically it's building a farm team of potential 337 00:31:26,919 --> 00:31:34,639 hires and and whether it's for us it worked out that way I mean we had 338 00:31:31,679 --> 00:31:39,919 some job hostings where we one time we had two applicants and that was after 339 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:46,080 not getting any of the first go around other times it's been kind of four three 340 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:50,799 so when you have limits on the applications you want to bring in as 341 00:31:48,679 --> 00:31:57,399 create the environment that you can get more talent coming in and that worked 342 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,399 for us this last time so 343 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:04,799 we hope to continue that throughout the summer because you never know when 344 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:11,279 you'll have someone depart for something else any questions any questions 345 00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:16,399 commissioner B yeah thank you Mr chair U are are they paid internships our are 346 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:21,519 yes yeah which makes sense I'm not saying no no no no um I assume so but I 347 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:26,440 just want to be clear on that and your budget seems you know pretty reasonably 348 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:30,120 priced reasonably priced that's probably not the word I want but it seems very 349 00:32:28,039 --> 00:32:36,120 reasonable actually what was unusual about that is I actually called Karen 350 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:41,039 Anderson because our salary went down okay and I was one from the 2024 PL I 351 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:44,600 was wondering what where did that come from because that made no sense yeah 352 00:32:43,159 --> 00:32:50,200 during the changes but there was fluctuations during the year and then we 353 00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:55,519 had a very experienced attorney leaveing replaced with a someone just out of law 354 00:32:53,080 --> 00:33:02,000 school one more just a followup comment too uh interesting presentation uh 355 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:05,240 thinking of body C cameras uh I always just think of the sheriff's department 356 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:09,200 about you know they have to wear them they got them but there's all these 357 00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:13,360 other things connected with it that your department has to go through too as well 358 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:16,960 it's also just the volume of use these things it's not just that they're used 359 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:21,639 to them at all it's like everything is on body cam then when they're speaking 360 00:33:18,519 --> 00:33:26,559 with the witnesses or offenders or victims a lot of times that is by Body 361 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:33,639 cam it was interesting thank you for sharing other 362 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:40,720 questions all right thanks ATT Baker Community Corrections Tam ocean I saw 363 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,720 you leave and then I didn't see you come 364 00:33:42,159 --> 00:33:47,639 back good afternoon I think I sent everybody into a little panic when I 365 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:55,039 walked out the door um I gotta move it for there we go 366 00:33:52,159 --> 00:33:59,360 um so Community Corrections um in in your packet in the slide talks a little 367 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:03,960 bit about all of the things we do in our department to address Public Safety um 368 00:34:01,919 --> 00:34:09,399 as we know um Community Corrections is pretty critical in addressing long-term 369 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:14,399 Public Safety we have specialized units um and we work with you know all levels 370 00:34:11,839 --> 00:34:19,079 of supervision from the start of a criminal justice case at a bail study 371 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:23,000 all the way to when somebody comes out on a life sentence review um which we've 372 00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:27,200 had many of lately the main drivers that you would 373 00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:31,079 see in our budget at this point like everybody else we're looking at um 374 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:36,040 Staffing costs for a variety of different things but some of those I 375 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:41,480 would like to talk about is we have some offsets right so my budget is mostly 376 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:45,720 County funding but on the other hand I also we have state funding because the 377 00:34:43,839 --> 00:34:49,040 state has some requirements for what they are supposed to fund and then we 378 00:34:47,240 --> 00:34:52,919 actually have been lucky enough to be participate in two Grant projects this 379 00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:58,160 in the next coming upcoming years that have offset some of those costs for us 380 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:02,160 um when we talk about State funding we were really successful in changing some 381 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:08,119 of our state funding last year as you know um instead from $800,000 to1 1.4 382 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:12,640 million around dollars that we're getting annually from the state when we 383 00:35:10,359 --> 00:35:16,160 approach the state at looking relooking at that that's funding that we've been 384 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,359 looking at for the last 25 years because the state wasn't following through with 385 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:23,480 their requirements um we were not fully 386 00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:27,320 successful and so in the upcoming Years Years we're going to be looking again at 387 00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:31,640 going back and discussing that with the state about according to the workload 388 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:35,359 studies and the state mandates they are supposed to be funding us at a higher 389 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:39,880 level so we'll continue to look at those options as we go forward in particular 390 00:35:38,359 --> 00:35:44,839 you can also see a little bit in the budget um it's not as apparent right now 391 00:35:42,599 --> 00:35:50,319 but it will be over time is the legislature has um eliminated our 392 00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:56,119 ability to charge supervision fees going forward and so that will affect our 393 00:35:53,240 --> 00:36:00,760 budget um and so as we kind of keep going forward and what that is and some 394 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:06,319 of our driving costs may be affected by that so another area we've seen an 395 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:11,640 increase in costs is drug testing um that's substantially increased over the 396 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:17,200 last couple years the cost of it um and our state funding hasn't kept up and the 397 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:21,480 supervision fees technically may go away that we may not be able to charge those 398 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:24,920 back going forward um another area that we're seeing an increase in cost which 399 00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:29,839 is one of those areas in my department that goes up and down um last year we 400 00:36:27,319 --> 00:36:34,640 saw increase um I expect one this year is juvenile out of home placements and 401 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:38,880 as we look at that it's very difficult for us to predict what types of Auto 402 00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:43,040 home placements we're going to need for juveniles in an upcoming year so we some 403 00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:47,359 years are lower or higher this year is a higher year hopefully maybe in the 404 00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:50,960 future it'll be lower I I have no idea how how to know when we're going to have 405 00:36:48,839 --> 00:36:54,040 be able to put what types of placements and that cost is going to be be from 406 00:36:52,839 --> 00:36:59,480 year to year um I think that's pretty much you 407 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:02,680 know upcoming training and different things of our grant we have a grant 408 00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:07,160 right now that's going to provide um quite a bit of funding over the next 409 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:11,040 three years for training um in developing programs for um 410 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:15,560 evidence-based practices and quality assurance so that's going to be a huge 411 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:21,520 Focus for us going forward any questions 412 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:29,520 for Miss lber go ahead commissioner Dwayne so juvenile our home placement is 413 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:32,720 that no we um for my department so all of our departments here in the county 414 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:36,599 have some juvenile out of home placement cost just here where so um Social 415 00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:39,640 Services is going to have a cost that they have to pay for the sheriff's 416 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:43,599 department has a cost that they have to pay for and Community Corrections has a 417 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:47,119 cost that we have to pay for and so the only individuals juveniles that we are 418 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:51,640 looking at for those aut home placement costs are individual juveniles who are 419 00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:56,760 under some type of probation supervision so there are criminal charges um that 420 00:37:54,359 --> 00:38:01,880 have to be placed in a setting that we have to pay for um so in this year's 421 00:37:59,839 --> 00:38:06,160 cases the the kids that we are looking at that we're paying for have had some 422 00:38:04,119 --> 00:38:11,440 pretty significant higher end charges and that means that that increases my 423 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:17,200 budget from sex offenses to um assault charges things that we we were not able 424 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:22,280 to um manage in the community so so the placement is like in a facility or it's 425 00:38:19,319 --> 00:38:26,800 in a facility yes right or example I'm sorry what for example for 426 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,400 example parade Lakes youth programs actually the kids that we've been 427 00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:34,480 dealing with right now we've actually had to have a higher level um even to 428 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:39,440 the point where um this year we had one at Redwing that we had to pay for which 429 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:42,760 is you know the juvenile prison so other 430 00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:50,960 questions yeah just a couple questions reference to the placement for example 431 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:54,720 PR L youth program do get a discounted rate so that help we do and we're very 432 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:58,520 involved with programming and making sure that when we place kids at Prairie 433 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:03,520 Lakes that we have a continuation of program so that's why um myself and 434 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:08,800 staff work very closely um I'm a part of the board that we work with our facility 435 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:13,160 here in our County so that we don't have to send them out if we have a choice and 436 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:16,720 can work forward with them and then just a follow question if I may um you 437 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:22,119 mentioned the additional State funding which is fantastic U and you're feeling 438 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:27,079 that's sustainable then going forward because otherwise we going to have to 439 00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:31,920 look at staff and Levy up so our state funding right now is um it will go 440 00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:37,240 forward where there's an issue with it is the way our funding formula works 441 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:42,240 it's based on the legislature appoints a dollar amount for the state and the 442 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:46,440 state then it's divided up and right now what our funding formula did two years 443 00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:50,960 ago is it meant that it's Equitable funding across the state no matter what 444 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:55,720 delivery system you have we're still working at the state level to determine 445 00:39:53,079 --> 00:39:59,560 how that study or work we have a workload study coming up we have a 446 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:05,960 variety of different things to stabilize that funding get things situated but I 447 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:11,319 would say the funding itself is there as populations change it could change so we 448 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:18,119 have a set amount for Community Corrections funding across the state and 449 00:40:14,319 --> 00:40:23,160 if um all of a sudden our population increased on what we were supervising 450 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:27,040 and another Count's population decreased we may have more additional funding 451 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:31,760 coming from the state out of that pot or vice person so if our probation funding 452 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:37,280 is based on the work we're doing at the state level I think the question always 453 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:41,240 comes up uh to commissioner Berg's point about sustainability is like grants like 454 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:45,000 the or Grant or something you know yeah so we do have a couple grants and we're 455 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:48,839 we're very conscious of the fact of those two crants we will Monitor and 456 00:40:47,319 --> 00:40:53,640 keep going forward and hopefully those will be okay but no the state funding is 457 00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:57,920 not a grant it's it's ongoing funding but it does have some fluctuation based 458 00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:02,520 on case loads very good Jo thank you very much thank 459 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:13,160 you Emergency Management is a here are you gonna hand um he had to be at Kanas 460 00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:17,599 so I will do my best based off his notes um so we have on here the weather radar 461 00:41:15,839 --> 00:41:21,280 Gap uh strategic planning with the rescue squad and then overall awareness 462 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:26,160 with the Emergency Management Programs and our Rescue Squad um the weather Gap 463 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:30,720 I would say ace Bonar our interm director has done a phenomen phal job 464 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:37,440 with us he he sits on state committees he's making a lot of awareness regarding 465 00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:42,839 this at legislative uh levels as well um I'm not going to do the joke as good as 466 00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:47,800 he is um but I'm gonna I'll read it uh so I laugh when he gave me the note 467 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:51,920 everyone sees The Radars apparently are like sewer plants or group homes 468 00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:56,720 everyone sees the benefit but no one wants them in their backyard and I just 469 00:41:54,000 --> 00:42:02,280 think that is a true Ace fashion so um I hope I did that Justice um but there 470 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:07,000 there's a whole lot of benefit for having this um and there shouldn't be a 471 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:11,119 cost for the county other than his time he has done a lot of work going to 472 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:16,079 different counties and educating other County boards regarding what the weather 473 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:20,760 Gap means and not just County boards but legislators as well um Emergency 474 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:25,920 Management also oversees the rescue squad we just had our 75th Anniversary 475 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:29,839 um ace and I are personally proud of the work and the commitment that this group 476 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:35,319 pass uh sometimes they go underlooked many times but the the dedication that 477 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:39,440 these members have to our Rescue Squad um is beyond words I mean some of them 478 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:43,440 are third generation Rescue Squad members which is really telling of the 479 00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:47,200 commitment and time and the dedication that they have to overall candyi County 480 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:51,359 so some of the work that we're going to be doing is looking at some strategic 481 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:55,440 planning and priorities and making sure that everyone's on on the same page with 482 00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:59,160 how we want this department to move forward um what are the stat staing 483 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:04,760 levels look like what does our equipment look like and really G uh gauge where 484 00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:10,200 all the members are coming in at and then finally awareness is a huge part of 485 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:15,160 Emergency Management um from tabletop exercises to evaluating our facilities 486 00:43:13,319 --> 00:43:19,960 to educating our own employees to educating the public um one of the 487 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:23,800 things that is a project that we've been working on is the school reunification 488 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:27,359 program and then you'll um that's something you'll hear about at our 489 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:32,720 September 3rd board meeting a will provide an update on that and so it not 490 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:38,240 just awareness to be proactive but we also have to be reactive and going 491 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:41,680 through those exercises and creating the awareness and the response times 492 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:45,760 regarding the train derailment or windstorms or tornadoes and so just 493 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:50,559 creating awareness about that is one thing is a goal of ours is that we want 494 00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:57,599 to improve on moving moving forward Mr thank you Mr chair going back 495 00:43:54,119 --> 00:44:04,079 to the radar Gap uh any guest when that might come to 496 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:06,960 fruition I I don't I know Ace is waiting on a few different things but like I 497 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:11,400 said he'll provide more of an update to the Coney board at the September 3rd 498 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:15,240 meeting I I'm shocked that there is such a thing but it really makes sense now 499 00:44:13,559 --> 00:44:18,680 every storm comes I'm watching and Els said there's no storm and EL boom 500 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:23,520 there's a storm where was that before you know yeah so it's very much needed 501 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:27,960 and I I appreciate them working on that and moving trying to move forward as 502 00:44:25,359 --> 00:44:30,960 fast as as we can and fill in that Gap and also this really comment about the 503 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:36,280 rescue squad what a good job they're doing and trying to meet their needs as 504 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:40,800 much as possible thank you so I'm having a hard time finding 505 00:44:38,599 --> 00:44:45,880 out where he is on this here it doesn't say emergency civil defense civil 506 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:49,960 defense okay thank you that's right actually went down a little yeah 507 00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:54,480 I'm making I'm making a couple notes because some things are combined and so 508 00:44:52,800 --> 00:45:02,079 if I knew what was combined it would be helpful to all right um Environmental 509 00:44:59,079 --> 00:45:02,079 Services Mr 510 00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:10,599 gear thank you Mr chairman Gary gear Environmental Services director here uh 511 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:15,480 this afternoon and bringing the uh Environmental Services budget before you 512 00:45:13,839 --> 00:45:18,680 uh and just kind of going to touch on the main drivers and the bigger items 513 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:24,920 for Budget 2025 and uh the lfi cell construction 514 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:29,599 will be is the significant driver this year uh it's going to be completed uh 515 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:35,920 which will include development of 295,000 cubic yards of waste disposal 516 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:40,480 capacity and revenue generation through 2029 and uh potentially further if 517 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:47,280 permit modifications which I'll touch on in a minute uh allow for vertical 518 00:45:42,599 --> 00:45:51,920 expansion of the MSW disposal area uh it involves placing 15,000 cubic yards of 519 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:58,520 clay material liner and 3.4 Acres of geom membrane 520 00:45:55,400 --> 00:46:05,040 liner uh Le collection pump piping granular material as the barrier on top 521 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:10,079 of the the Geo membrane liner and then Frost protection mssw uh that's one 522 00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:12,280 piece you don't when as soon as you build a cell and you got the piping 523 00:46:11,240 --> 00:46:18,400 under there and you're collecting the leate we can't have it freeze 524 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:23,040 immediately in November so uh we're a lot of folks don't realize that but 525 00:46:19,839 --> 00:46:26,280 we're we're moving we we're considering the fact that we're getting close to 526 00:46:24,359 --> 00:46:31,960 capacity with our current space available Within mssw but then as we 527 00:46:29,079 --> 00:46:37,280 develop the new cell we actually push 4 to8 ft of mssw on top of that new cell 528 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:41,200 that we be building in 2025 and then we're technically backing up as we 529 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:44,280 accept new waste then because we have space available where that just came for 530 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:48,680 but that provides us our Frost protection for the leech a collection 531 00:46:45,839 --> 00:46:53,520 system underneath the cell construction so a lot of moving parts to building a 532 00:46:51,359 --> 00:46:56,920 cell and a lot of work involved in doing that uh additionally there'll be 533 00:46:55,200 --> 00:47:02,040 ultimate development Road uh improvements within the landfill uh 534 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:07,400 storm water conveyances and basins um additional litter fence uh that we built 535 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:12,760 two years ago that's been a significant Improvement for us along the road and we 536 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:17,720 will capture just the the approximately 700 ft going north yet and that would 537 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:22,359 complete that uh piece for the litter retention uh the permit modifications 538 00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:28,040 for the landfill we do are A Primitive fil facility through the Minnesota po 539 00:47:24,319 --> 00:47:32,599 control agency uh we will renew in 2025 which would include uh requests for 540 00:47:30,599 --> 00:47:37,720 additional vertical expansion of the mssw disposal are area uh we're looking 541 00:47:35,839 --> 00:47:42,920 at between 20 and 30 ft of additional height and changing our slopes from what 542 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:48,000 has been historically 5:1 to 3:1 and what we're doing of course is 543 00:47:45,559 --> 00:47:53,000 selling space and we can create more volume and more space extend the life of 544 00:47:49,839 --> 00:47:57,319 the landfill so uh that is our desire as we move forward in rep permitting 545 00:47:55,359 --> 00:48:01,720 because our ultimate capacity capacity is approved through that permit so then 546 00:47:59,839 --> 00:48:07,319 the way to gain that space is through height and slope so that is part of the 547 00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:13,119 plan for 2025 and then in addition uh lee8 548 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:17,880 recirculation uh we would be proposing but I can't keep glasses on or glasses 549 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:23,839 off um so recirculation of the leech eight 550 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:27,400 uh which uh historically the only option has been well historically we have 551 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:31,640 trucked our leate through the last number of years we've been using our Le 552 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:36,280 treatment facility uh that has been operational uh throughout this whole 553 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:40,760 year now so we're gaining some traction and success with that uh the the idea 554 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:46,000 with the recirculation of the lee8 and get it permitted to be able to do that 555 00:48:43,079 --> 00:48:50,280 would be that any downtime or occurrences when we're not able to treat 556 00:48:48,319 --> 00:48:55,559 the leech a we can recirculate it through the cell and not have to truck 557 00:48:52,440 --> 00:49:02,680 off site so again we're uh a little extra uh liquid in the the mssw uh in 558 00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:06,799 our eyes will Aid in compaction of the mssw which again is what we're after 559 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:13,160 because more we can come back more space we can uh maintain to uh continue to uh 560 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:18,319 add disposal within that so uh and just then I guess I mentioned 561 00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:21,760 that no no Trucking would be the goal with that too that's kind of been the 562 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:26,880 behind the scenes goal but I think we've learned through our DRP process with the 563 00:49:24,319 --> 00:49:30,359 Lee treatment system that it isn't the Magic Bullet that there will just never 564 00:49:28,599 --> 00:49:34,480 be any Trucking there is going to be issues in timing uh when things are 565 00:49:32,799 --> 00:49:39,400 either broke down or not functioning for some Reas so being able to recirculate 566 00:49:36,839 --> 00:49:45,280 will be a big plus for us in our permit to be able to uh inove compaction go 567 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:49,079 ahead commissioner yeah thanks uh this a SE well it's kind of part of the budget 568 00:49:46,839 --> 00:49:56,240 I suppose um with all the rain this year that's probably been a huge issue with 569 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:59,559 uh it it hasn't been as bad as maybe uh past 570 00:49:57,240 --> 00:50:06,240 situations we've done I believe a little better job of storm water management on 571 00:50:01,799 --> 00:50:11,880 the facility we used to uh went and it's it depends on the timing of the cell as 572 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:15,880 well see we have a lot of uh MSW in the current cell so we have absorption so 573 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:20,240 we're a little bit delayed there's a delay in leei coming through it doesn't 574 00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:24,400 rain rain today and we see it tomorrow so it there's a little bit of a bounce 575 00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:27,319 with that of knowing that exactly but we've also done a better job of storm 576 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:32,079 water managing we used to have a fair amount of runoff 577 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:38,760 into our cells that we've really worked to not allow to happen anymore so uh we 578 00:50:35,839 --> 00:50:43,799 are you're trying to just treat leech a and not additional water so that's kind 579 00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:48,640 of what I just had said to uh the storm water uh conveyances and basins we can 580 00:50:47,079 --> 00:50:54,000 develop and work those as best as possible and it helps our chances to 581 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:58,160 keep the additional rain water and I understand rain water right on the sale 582 00:50:55,599 --> 00:51:01,599 yes but it's pretty much just sell then that you're yes correct okay so that's 583 00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:08,520 the big gain or the buer Mr thank you so what I hear you 584 00:51:05,319 --> 00:51:14,400 saying the leage system is working fairly well this year it's it has been 585 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:19,160 operational we we still are Desiring a higher percentage of permeate which is 586 00:51:16,799 --> 00:51:23,680 the clean water going out of it and the concentrate which is what we also 587 00:51:20,799 --> 00:51:27,480 recirculate into our cell but we're we're operational which has been a you 588 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:31,280 know it's been two steps forward one step back for a number of years of 589 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:36,640 course but we're it's going well this year and one other followup question any 590 00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:41,720 uh chemicals new chemicals that we have to be aware of that you have to be aware 591 00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:47,680 of uh to test for I would I would I would say not not 592 00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:52,400 anything new that we're uh we are and we had implemented posos testing last year 593 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:56,839 already too that's just kind of the the hot uh Front Burner one that we're 594 00:51:54,880 --> 00:52:01,079 watching for but we had already already been monitoring for that and then 595 00:51:58,839 --> 00:52:07,119 testing for a of course a laundry list of chemicals through our sampling that 596 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:11,599 we do and uh nothing that we are not finding anything in our monitoring Wells 597 00:52:09,079 --> 00:52:17,000 that is coming from any cell we've constructed so we're we're pleased with 598 00:52:14,319 --> 00:52:24,480 our reporting results good thank you okay I'll keep trying to go here 599 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:28,640 um oh and well I do want to add one other piece with the Dr the DRP that 600 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:34,240 we're under and you know we're at some point we need to get that pulled into 601 00:52:30,119 --> 00:52:38,599 our facility permit as well um and it's good to know that we're we're 602 00:52:36,839 --> 00:52:43,799 getting consistent production out of our treatment system do we wish it was would 603 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:49,200 have been working better sooner have we invested a lot yes we have but all mssw 604 00:52:47,319 --> 00:52:55,000 landfills have just been informed that they need to have a DRP and a way to 605 00:52:51,920 --> 00:53:01,520 treat their leech Aid within five years so I credit the board and past 606 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:08,559 administration and staff that uh worked uh stuff you next out to introduce and 607 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:14,440 try a Le treatment facility uh because we are on the front side of a lot of of 608 00:53:12,799 --> 00:53:19,160 a path that's coming for everybody else so at least we're I believe in a good 609 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:22,920 position for what we have done and uh moving 610 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:28,160 forward jumping to equipment uh as another budget driver for 2025 uh a new 611 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:32,599 tra to Dozer The the current one we have is on the 5-year program that we've been 612 00:53:30,319 --> 00:53:38,200 under for the years that I've been around so that's this a a replacement 613 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:43,599 but it is a significant item looking to go to a full-on dozer instead of a 614 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:49,240 crawler uh a crawler is kind of a hybrid between uh payloader and and Dozer and 615 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:54,200 the Dozer as we're phasing which the crawler was used primarily in our 616 00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:58,119 demolition cell and that phasing out will uh a true Dozer will be a better 617 00:53:56,839 --> 00:54:04,839 piece of equipment for landfill operators uh primarily in the MSW cell 618 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:10,760 and again a big plus for providing the compaction that we're looking for 619 00:54:07,559 --> 00:54:14,319 um that's it for the landfill just a quick highlight on Planning and Zoning 620 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:19,520 then as well salaries are the main driver there uh number of permits that 621 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:24,680 we've averaged are just over 600 over the last five years uh average fees 622 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:29,799 we've received 357,000 uh there's been 4 new homes 623 00:54:27,319 --> 00:54:36,040 permitted this year so those are just some of the things again salaries main 624 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:40,079 driver uh the ssts low interest stolen that's a septic system program it's been 625 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:45,720 a great program over the years a lot of money has been uh loaned at a low 626 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:50,200 interest rate through that um and in recent years we've got the income based 627 00:54:47,240 --> 00:54:53,520 grant program available as well uh and that in conjunction with the glacial 628 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:57,559 Lake Sewer District you know we're covering a lot of properties that have 629 00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:03,000 good Waste Water treatment and Improvement in the long term so good 630 00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:06,640 things going on there so that is all I have for Environmental Services unless 631 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:10,400 there was further I guess I got some questions Midstream but if there's 632 00:55:08,119 --> 00:55:16,480 anything further I just make a couple of comments um you know technology is 633 00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:21,880 defined as not just equipment but ideas too and uh really have to commend you 634 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:25,160 for I mean we the GLA Lake Sewer District does the same thing we don't 635 00:55:23,240 --> 00:55:29,520 want storm water being treated in the sewer district because it's expensive 636 00:55:26,839 --> 00:55:34,599 and keeping that storm water out is I think a great uh move forward and then 637 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:38,799 the recirculation you know instead of hauling It Away pump it back on and give 638 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:43,280 it a few more days buy some time as it re or rep percolates I think that was 639 00:55:41,319 --> 00:55:48,400 also a good idea couple of big goals for us through the new permit C thank you 640 00:55:45,839 --> 00:55:48,400 all right thank you 641 00:55:49,960 --> 00:56:01,400 all Andy you haven't had enough of us yet look at back yeah let me hit you 642 00:55:58,319 --> 00:56:08,200 okay Andy after Andy is I'll make your short and sweet 643 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:14,520 gentlemen um so most of my operational budgets I was able to have no changes 644 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:22,160 with the acception of some of the larger ones and those driving factors of course 645 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:30,400 are wages and benefits um I did have to raise utilities on three 646 00:56:26,799 --> 00:56:35,359 four of those budgets um I wish I would have had a little 647 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:42,480 foresight that uh when was going to start charging us a uh fee for natural 648 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:47,920 gas now too otherwise I would have raised up my budget a little bit more um 649 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:53,359 but we'll see what happens there Mr chair can I ask excuse me where are you 650 00:56:50,200 --> 00:57:01,200 on the budget here I mean what oh not on there what's the name of it oh I have 651 00:56:56,240 --> 00:57:10,119 all over okay yeah overall it's like 15 okay right that's why I can't 652 00:57:04,359 --> 00:57:17,079 find so there's nothing big on any of my operational budget should be fun one uh 653 00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:23,280 fun 15 and fun 16 654 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:28,480 um the major changes will be to fund 13 which is our abil 655 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:38,359 fund um so if you look at each of the numbers 656 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:43,960 on a 2025 budget those numbers reflect the capital Improvement plan so 657 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:48,480 how much will be spent in each one of those 658 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:54,839 facilities um to go over uh next year's Capital Improvement plan um we have uh 659 00:57:52,480 --> 00:58:00,640 the attorney's office we have the elevator that's going to be a big line 660 00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:04,480 item I did hire an engineering firm to write the specs for that is that not 661 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:12,160 nothing I can do um Library we have a proposed roof um 662 00:58:10,039 --> 00:58:20,599 the main air conditioner which is original to the building so 25 years 663 00:58:16,799 --> 00:58:26,319 old um we have some a split unit to put in in the 664 00:58:21,799 --> 00:58:30,079 uh the it room um some vfds for for controlling the 665 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:36,799 fans um County office building we have the elevator that should be right around 666 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:41,920 $95,000 um Public Works would be replacing the majority of the INF floor 667 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:46,839 heat boilers um they've come to their end of the life um we had replaced one 668 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:54,520 last year ready and plan is for uh in-house staff 669 00:58:51,440 --> 00:59:02,720 to paint the facility next year and law enforcement center um we 670 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:10,119 have uh building water pumps and drives um we do not have enough water pressure 671 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:15,720 out here so we have to have supplemental pumps to keep the water pressure up in 672 00:59:12,559 --> 00:59:20,250 the building not only for showers and stuff but for mainly the fire system to 673 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:24,440 keep the code [Music] 674 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:28,839 um they're failing we've had replaced Parts on the 10 there now it's just dep 675 00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:34,280 part was $7,000 676 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:38,640 um so we got that coming down the pipe uh maintenance garage um that's coming 677 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:47,160 on 20 years old um we're looking at the boilers over 678 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:53,839 there and that's about it but you know that comes to a price tag of $960,000 679 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:58,880 amongst all facilities and then you know I I'm going 680 00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:04,079 to calculate another 5% on top of that for inflation um so that's another 681 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:11,319 $48,000 so we're nearing a million dollars for the capital Improvement plan 682 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:16,359 next year and what have we been putting away for 683 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:25,359 that 1.3 so we're staying ahead of it yes okay thank you um any questions for 684 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:29,760 Andy what I'm going to suggest if I think this is getting a little long for 685 01:00:27,599 --> 01:00:34,760 those of you who have reported I think it's safe for you if you want to leave 686 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:39,559 free to leave and and uh we're not going to ask any more questions 687 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:44,319 afterwards we'll get our answers another time thank you all right thanks 688 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:49,400 Andy SC 689 01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:03,640 afternoon try to Breeze through this a little bit 690 01:01:01,079 --> 01:01:09,960 um so we've got a few priorities for this director Scott hoveland IT 691 01:01:07,079 --> 01:01:14,680 director um so we got a few priorities for this year 692 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:21,000 uh as a whole we tried to stay pretty close to where we were um at up a bit um 693 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:26,119 cyber Security's been a big thing in the last couple of years um so and as you 694 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:32,039 know we've had a couple of recent events that have thrown us a curve um we've 695 01:01:29,039 --> 01:01:37,280 invested a lot of money and ironically the things we invested money on were 696 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:44,400 things that had issues so sometimes you can't win um but those uh those tools 697 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:50,319 that we've implemented are um because of Regulation from the FBI the 698 01:01:46,799 --> 01:01:55,000 DCA um and so we've purchased some things that we've been really benefited 699 01:01:53,240 --> 01:02:01,240 from what you've given us through arpa funds uh we're going to continue those 700 01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:05,520 and next year I think we'll be okay uh be prepared for some other numbers if we 701 01:02:03,559 --> 01:02:10,480 don't have other grants to pay for those incoming 702 01:02:06,599 --> 01:02:15,480 years um we've been working with modern modernization of different it systems 703 01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:20,240 throughout the county uh number of our departments have brought up that it has 704 01:02:18,119 --> 01:02:29,039 been involved with uh whether we're looking at HR uh scanning or um bringing 705 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:34,760 some of our on Prem uh applications to the cloud uh we're looking at various 706 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:42,039 things and with all of those bring questions 707 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:48,160 concerns U stress so um and money so um there as we've seen there's there's 708 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:50,520 money invested here to have it on Prem there are some benefits to having it in 709 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:56,839 the cloud um but sometimes that cost us a 710 01:02:52,880 --> 01:03:01,720 little more money too do it that way um we've done some pilot projects with 711 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:04,559 candra County and several counties throughout the state to try to be ahead 712 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:09,000 of some of these initiatives and that's been beneficial 713 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:13,200 we're trying to get some group purchasing so that we can drive down 714 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:17,960 pricing that's what we did with our Sim project that we have implemented uh 715 01:03:16,119 --> 01:03:22,880 without that big group we would have paid significantly 716 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:28,400 more uh operational expenditures uh 717 01:03:27,319 --> 01:03:34,680 that's that's where we're kind of getting hit um we've got licensing that 718 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:39,599 unfortunately Microsoft doesn't ever charge us less than they did the year 719 01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:45,200 before our backup software our you know all kinds of stuff 720 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:50,160 um that's where you know I guess as we were looking at budgets I could not have 721 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:54,960 a level budget there because of an uncontrolled um 722 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:59,440 fee we're looking at this next year to probably move to Office 365 for the 723 01:03:57,119 --> 01:04:03,279 whole County uh what that looks like is probably about 724 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:08,319 $100,000 and we can take care of that through some of our arpa funds but 725 01:04:05,079 --> 01:04:12,279 that's not a one-time cost that is an ongoing cost from and I think I've 726 01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:17,240 talked to a few of you he said hey we just gave you money for this well guess 727 01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:20,640 what here here's what once we go and put our foot in the water um we're going to 728 01:04:19,559 --> 01:04:24,839 invest that 729 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:29,440 um we're always trying to keep up to date with our our our servers our PCS 730 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:32,880 you know we've got a load on a truck right now for the county office building 731 01:04:31,319 --> 01:04:38,400 so we're always trying to keep our staff working to keep our the rest of the 732 01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:43,440 county staff up to date so we're not uh fighting old 733 01:04:39,799 --> 01:04:48,000 equipment um and then security within that infrastructure too we've invested a 734 01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:52,599 lot of money there to again back to the cyber security what do we have to do to 735 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:56,760 keep candy County function um some of the other things 736 01:04:55,720 --> 01:05:00,920 we've done this year and we're going to continue to do next year we've done some 737 01:04:58,279 --> 01:05:05,640 Innovation with our technology uh including as you're looking here at your 738 01:05:03,319 --> 01:05:10,240 uh consoles in front of you U that was one of our big Investments through arpa 739 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:14,440 dollars uh we're this next year we'll be looking at boardrooms and things like 740 01:05:12,119 --> 01:05:19,760 that to make them more usable for County staff uh and then the last would be 741 01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:25,319 Personnel um as we know that's not something that 742 01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:29,880 with our salary changes that's been a bigger amount um but that's what we can 743 01:05:28,359 --> 01:05:35,839 do we're going to look at some different on call um benefits for our staff right 744 01:05:33,319 --> 01:05:39,640 now it's kind of a comp time one for one and so we're going to look at that 745 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:43,400 through this next year um again I don't know that that'll be a big expenditure 746 01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:50,640 in the future but down the line so um with this like I said we have 747 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:55,039 greatly benefited from the decisions that have been made to give the the IT 748 01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:59,000 department uh financial assistance through grants 749 01:05:56,799 --> 01:06:05,599 uh we're going to invest those things to do the right thing however um in coming 750 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:09,520 years we're going to be asking for more money or more or we're going to be 751 01:06:07,119 --> 01:06:13,640 continually looking for Grants to fund those things sure keep looking for 752 01:06:11,799 --> 01:06:18,200 Grants what's that keep looking for Grants yeah yeah well and I think that's 753 01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:22,520 just it I think as a county um I think we're always looking for that right and 754 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:30,359 and who is that and who's got time to do it so um yes 755 01:06:26,599 --> 01:06:34,880 um so um with that like I said we're trying to look at long-term Solutions 756 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:39,599 not onetime Solutions onetime payments and that's where we're at as far as 757 01:06:38,279 --> 01:06:46,520 technology for the county any questions question cor just a 758 01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:52,079 comment and a question um have you seen a lot of changes it over the years I can 759 01:06:49,839 --> 01:06:58,000 remember back uh when Jay helped me with a floppy disc it's a long long way since 760 01:06:55,400 --> 01:07:01,760 then hasn't it been and uh you got a lot of experience I appreciate that and 761 01:06:59,279 --> 01:07:08,400 you're doing a good job in that aspect um one thing I hear from some of my 762 01:07:04,079 --> 01:07:14,599 meetings U is that we need a a room you know with a good uh uh monitor you know 763 01:07:12,559 --> 01:07:19,039 for Zoom meetings and things like that is there plan to set up one of the uh 764 01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:22,160 the meeting rooms building what we'll start to see with as I talked about with 765 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:27,920 our board um our different conference rooms um something in so you can walk in 766 01:07:25,359 --> 01:07:33,599 with your laptop connect to the screen and then you just that'd be really nice 767 01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:38,119 needed you know and as we see in this building there are not enough there's 768 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:43,960 not enough spaces to have big meetings like that so but even the smaller rooms 769 01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:50,680 we do have we still get you know 10 15 20 people some of them so be nice to 770 01:07:46,319 --> 01:07:54,480 have one there thank you all right other questions thank you Scott appreciate 771 01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:59,440 that I'm gonna pause for just a second here we've got 772 01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:05,799 so the agenda initially said 90 minutes for this and need just started at 11: 773 01:08:01,279 --> 01:08:12,760 we're approaching no start at noon was no but start at about 11 so now 774 01:08:10,839 --> 01:08:17,560 we're quite a bit over is there any way we could uh take five minutes well I'm 775 01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:21,199 just wondering if we could uh do the rest of this at the next meeting I know 776 01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:25,960 we've already had staff waiting around or we power through it because no we 777 01:08:23,359 --> 01:08:29,120 might have it another okay I just wanted to ask all 778 01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:40,480 rightline good afternoon Caroline Khan uh Health and Human Services director I 779 01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:44,839 know you guys have ifs reports um but Carol puts together these really nice 780 01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:48,920 easy to follow would you like a copy of those um I can pass those 781 01:08:50,359 --> 01:08:55,239 around a little EAS to walk 782 01:08:56,159 --> 01:08:59,359 oh mov 783 01:09:00,159 --> 01:09:07,120 over he's pred ready for me so uh today I'd like to just talk to you a little 784 01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:11,080 bit about our themes for the upcoming year and how we're really going to be 785 01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:14,199 focusing on optimizing our Synergy uh we've been a health and human services 786 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:18,719 department for I believe since an Steen was our 787 01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:22,560 director is when we made that transition um and we're still continuing to to way 788 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:26,759 look for ways that we can leverage both sides of our department to to really 789 01:09:24,759 --> 01:09:30,440 improve the work that we do um so we're going to continue to focus on right 790 01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:34,759 sizing our initiatives and optimizing our resources to streamline some of our 791 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:38,400 processes and efficiencies some of those things that you know Scott talked about 792 01:09:36,199 --> 01:09:42,520 in partnering with it uh we're looking at moving forward with a tech program 793 01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:46,759 that allows like our text messages instead of typing them out we can just 794 01:09:44,159 --> 01:09:51,000 cop click and drag uh and still meet some of the requirements that we need 795 01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:56,040 but really decrease some of that staff burden on areas such as that as well as 796 01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:59,320 things like we've talked about uh with our caseworks and E signature 797 01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:04,239 and finding ways that we can use the systems that we have or other systems to 798 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:09,239 improve the way that we work um continue to look at our organizational Frameworks 799 01:10:07,199 --> 01:10:12,920 and team designs so we've recently had some changes within our Public Health 800 01:10:11,440 --> 01:10:16,600 Department under foundational Public Health responsibilities and instead of 801 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:21,199 adding staff really did an assessment of capacity within our staff uh to see 802 01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:24,960 areas in which we could grow we've identified some other areas of 803 01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:29,239 opportunity where we were able to ask um our Services side what are areas that 804 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:33,480 you need uh so we'll be moving forward with looking to uh bring forward an 805 01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:37,719 opportunity to do jail parenting programming and how can we work um for 806 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:42,640 needs on one side and benefit from the other and work together to accomplish 807 01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:47,239 some of those goals and that kind of still rolls into like our our culture of 808 01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:51,239 shared services and team design and how can Public Health and Human Services 809 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:55,600 continue to to partner and and move forward for things such as parenting 810 01:10:53,120 --> 01:11:01,239 education and others um and the again continue to identify um and strategies 811 01:10:59,199 --> 01:11:06,320 to boost productivity for our and satisfaction overall for our staff and 812 01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:10,679 our clients um with that comes some changes as you can see if we'll I 813 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:15,679 believe the public health one is on top um Carol has done a remarkable job 814 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:20,199 putting this in a nice easy format for us so just to call out some areas in our 815 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:25,000 revenues I really want to highlight that foundational Public Health dollars uh it 816 01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:29,320 was really a strategy from the state to make sure that this doesn't decrease our 817 01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:33,280 Levy um that's very important so you're going to see a decrease um in candy 818 01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:37,000 ohigh County's Public Health request on a levy but that's because our our team 819 01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:40,199 is doing such a great job and Carol's team on the finance side is doing a 820 01:11:38,440 --> 01:11:45,639 great job on Revenue recapture and providing Revenue delivered Services um 821 01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:50,480 so that the reason you're witnessing that is because of this this these 822 01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:54,000 foundational dollars but it is a direct result of the revenues that we are 823 01:11:52,639 --> 01:11:59,480 receiving for the services that we're delivering to the community 824 01:11:56,239 --> 01:12:03,280 um we continue like everybody else to look for Grants and utilize grants 825 01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:08,719 within the work that we do to to reach our goals most of our um change that 826 01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:12,159 you'll see I know that it's probably jumping out so I'm just going to address 827 01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:16,440 the elephant is that increase on our health promotion line we've seen 828 01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:21,080 decreases a in availability for funding to support areas like CTC and our Public 829 01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:26,239 Health has done a really good stewardly job um and with that increase in Revenue 830 01:12:24,440 --> 01:12:29,280 uh we were still a ble to modify some opportunities to still achieve those 831 01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:33,920 goals for like our child and teen checkup and our other health promotion 832 01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:38,159 goals um and so we chose to allocate putting in a few more dollars to 833 01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:45,639 maintain that consistency in our our community impact um while still moving 834 01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:50,280 forward with a decrease on that Levy request again if you move over to our 835 01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:55,400 Human Services side you'll see uh modifications some of our Public's uh 836 01:12:52,600 --> 01:13:00,520 purchase of soil or our recoveries uh there was a change in Parental fees uh 837 01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:03,760 from a legislative standpoint uh so we are no longer able to collect those and 838 01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:09,800 that is where you'll see a majority of that decrease under our recoveries line 839 01:13:06,719 --> 01:13:14,120 um other revenues we continue to move forward and find ways that we can 840 01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:19,560 leverage the revenue opportunities that we can get under our time study and um 841 01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:22,960 other areas uh Carol's team does a really good job helping educate our 842 01:13:21,159 --> 01:13:26,280 staff especially with staff turnover to make sure we're optimizing every 843 01:13:24,440 --> 01:13:31,360 opportunity to receive that state and federal funding for the work that we do 844 01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:36,840 um and then if you move down you will notice uh a shift in in Personnel that 845 01:13:34,159 --> 01:13:43,480 is our main about 64% of our budget does go to Personnel so that is um 846 01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:46,520 able it's a it's a pretty hefty portion but I think it's really stable if you 847 01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:50,800 look at the budget that you're looking at from 2024 didn't yet allocate for 848 01:13:49,239 --> 01:13:54,199 those increases and we're having more staff participate in our health 849 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:58,040 insurance um so that's why you're noticing that in increase there but 850 01:13:56,520 --> 01:14:02,199 overall I'm really impressed with the way that candy ohigh county has been 851 01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:07,800 able to keep their per capita cost of of Levy dollars spent on the Human Services 852 01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:12,280 delivery if you look at that uh number our per capita cost is pretty in line 853 01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:16,639 from 2020 and if you look at the Statewide per capita cost that they had 854 01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:19,639 a pretty significant increase so I think it really goes to the Testament of the 855 01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:25,639 work that candy ohigh county has been doing to maintain a stable Service 856 01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:29,920 delivery while um increased demands and regulations and changes on the work that 857 01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:32,120 we do so I'd just like to highlight that as 858 01:14:32,639 --> 01:14:42,040 well Mr thank you yeah per capita costs um we're staying pretty reasonable there 859 01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:47,719 that's good still a lot of money per cap when you think about Services uh but uh 860 01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:52,239 at least we're staying pretty much in as we go along um I noticed also on here 861 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:56,400 that the arpa funds you know they're running out now we hired the staff with 862 01:14:54,159 --> 01:15:01,239 them and I'm assuming then for the health or the for the Human Services 863 01:14:58,159 --> 01:15:06,920 Levy increasing by 463,000 um that's mainly Levy dollars for 864 01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:11,960 salaries for these positions having to pick up the full amount for that as well 865 01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:17,159 and is there any new hires in this position no going forward now we are 866 01:15:15,480 --> 01:15:21,000 still analyzing some needs but at this point the budget we're putting forward 867 01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:24,960 doesn't have the FTE um we we'll always find needs and desires but we still have 868 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:27,679 to remain stewardly so we're going to Contin to move forward with 869 01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:32,760 opportunities to see what we can do to meet that need uh without the additional 870 01:15:30,440 --> 01:15:37,360 increase of Staffing at this and so the the levy increases of mainly salaries 871 01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:41,480 and that we're trying to yep and then the offset of that minor recovery 872 01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:45,440 reduction so that's kind of if you look on that differential 873 01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:53,600 side yep so okay thank you all right any other 874 01:15:51,679 --> 01:15:56,880 questions thank you I have a few questions but I'll I'll ask 875 01:15:55,480 --> 01:16:00,080 at a different time because in the interested time 876 01:16:01,199 --> 01:16:10,159 yeah members of the board M Public Works director um on your screen is I've kind 877 01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:14,080 of done it in four four major areas this is the 878 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:17,880 proactive side of my budget the reactive side is the maintenance side which is 879 01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:23,239 about three and a half million um I didn't list that out because it's kind 880 01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:27,760 of what people expect this is what um we are they they expect it to do forward 881 01:16:26,159 --> 01:16:34,320 thinking they kind of assume that we're doing maintenance with that note 882 01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:38,760 um the other thing I don't have just for the record is the glacial lakes will be 883 01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:41,320 coming up in October November that's an Enterprise fund so that's not included 884 01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:47,199 in here and I think that's oh and then so 885 01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:51,679 let's just start out with Capital Equipment we have 886 01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:58,600 $778,000 of Capital Equipment we're looking at and we're recommending that 887 01:16:55,280 --> 01:17:03,760 we split um that between Levy dollars and buffer fund dollars we did have 888 01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:08,480 about 120,000 of that is eligible for the buffer fund which would be the skid 889 01:17:05,440 --> 01:17:14,159 steer tra o conditioner stump grinder so I is a as kind of a the administrator 890 01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:18,719 and I were thinking like if this is a you know like a headd direction we can 891 01:17:16,199 --> 01:17:25,120 go this will help also the the levy reduction because our Levy has remained 892 01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:30,480 the same for Public Works 4.7 and so this would be one way that we have a 893 01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:35,679 revenue Source or an area that we could use which is an eligible cost now this 894 01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:43,480 will leave at the end of the at the end of 25 we'll still have a balance of 895 01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:48,760 about $700,000 in that so with these purchases so you did I hear you looking 896 01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:54,040 for some sort of well to me it just makes we were just we were just thinking 897 01:17:51,719 --> 01:17:58,360 like because it is a direct impact to the levy it's not you don't need to make 898 01:17:56,239 --> 01:18:03,400 a vote but I'm just if the general direction we we haven't done a lot of 899 01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:09,440 purchases with the buffer account but we do and we can't and I guess the point I 900 01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:13,679 would make is that the money is there continues to come in there's no sense in 901 01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:19,280 sitting on it so if we have eligible purchases and eligible uses for that we 902 01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:23,760 may as well use it otherwise and granted we have pretty good interest rates right 903 01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:30,080 now but money is there to use and on that note one of the things that we were 904 01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:34,639 looking at buying in 2024 was the we're buying the skider a trailer right now 905 01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:39,080 Austin uses just a pickup and then we borrow one ton from public works and we 906 01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:44,960 would just um maybe get rid of his pickup and go with a 250 or 3/4 so he 907 01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:52,520 can pull it so with that being said um we would like there's no impact to the 908 01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:59,000 24 budget but maybe to purchase that now with the $24 it would still that was all 909 01:18:55,199 --> 01:19:02,360 calculated into this whole um balance of the 910 01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:08,600 buffer anyway you can think about that um but we would like to maybe proceed 911 01:19:05,480 --> 01:19:14,000 with that um as as administrator said you know this is for us kind of a 912 01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:17,560 planning and preservation year um but I do want to highlight four projects that 913 01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:21,560 we're going to be doing for safety projects one is we're going to do the 914 01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:25,639 grade separation over the Burlington Northern railroad tracks the the $9.6 915 01:19:24,199 --> 01:19:31,639 million grade separation 're we're going to be doing 916 01:19:28,159 --> 01:19:35,840 uh 12 intersections with LED stop signs we're going to throw in some where two 917 01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:42,560 of the sites will have rumble strips so that's a big change we're going to have 918 01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:48,600 I believe uh 35 or so intersections with with LED stop signs now U that because 919 01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:51,960 the state did an overb Buu last year um we're going to be doing our grounding 920 01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:59,520 what reflective again this year through the federal dollars and then um we do a 921 01:19:55,560 --> 01:20:04,760 off-road Trail project every year um and we're doing one on Lake Avenue South and 922 01:20:02,159 --> 01:20:10,840 then one up from kind of the Bible Camp Northerly on our County Road 923 01:20:07,440 --> 01:20:15,679 95 uh construction is 25.2 million that's 31 miles of Paving and overlay 924 01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:21,000 there is no construction in there but we are going to be doing um some full depth 925 01:20:18,199 --> 01:20:24,199 Reclamation which is we have the grade we're going to go all the way down into 926 01:20:22,239 --> 01:20:29,840 the gravel and then build it back up so it's quasi the same as construction 927 01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:35,679 you'll have the same quality as a new constructed Road and then the last um 928 01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:39,360 thing I want to point out uh maybe I'll go back to construction some of the 929 01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:43,719 notable projects we're going to be doing next year is a Tri County 930 01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:50,040 Road we're going to be doing the College Road um from 5 over to 931 01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:55,639 41 um we'll be doing the bridge over here and then um 7th Street in Wilmer or 932 01:20:53,360 --> 01:21:00,760 Our Kind Ro 41 from the fairgrounds up to Walmer Avenue so those are kind of 933 01:20:57,679 --> 01:21:04,880 like your Flagship bigger projects that you might see if you 934 01:21:08,199 --> 01:21:15,719 will it would be all of our County we would 935 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:23,000 start where 10 and two split and do the 10 and two little dance there and go all 936 01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:28,800 the way up then go all the way North to 937 01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:34,600 a mile North I think of 102 I think it's five 938 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:39,280 miles yeah yep yep and we would what we're looking at doing is an FDR and 939 01:21:36,639 --> 01:21:44,159 Paving grass line to Grass line so it would be almost it would it 940 01:21:42,440 --> 01:21:49,800 would be the identical same road as eight BL and North it would be the exact 941 01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:58,520 that look would be what that would be up to is it not nope NOP no you can tell we 942 01:21:55,560 --> 01:22:03,719 love construction um the full depth Reclamation uh on roads used for Highway 943 01:22:01,159 --> 01:22:09,560 23 detours yeah people are going to be very happy about that is that covered in 944 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:13,600 the cost of the no uh orlane project by the state no we don't get 945 01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:19,560 no um not even close like it that's just a 946 01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:25,040 token of feel good what you have to do to get 947 01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:30,000 yeah the inter agency cooperation we use there incidentally you know we do 948 01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:35,719 use trunk highways as Rd tours as well and we don't pay them anything so um on 949 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:41,920 the budget side our Revenue um we have 12 Revenue sources 950 01:22:39,199 --> 01:22:50,960 that we fund this program with I listed the top six and as far as budget goes 951 01:22:45,719 --> 01:22:56,120 our Levy has not changed so 4.7 million our budget changes because our budget 952 01:22:53,320 --> 01:23:00,639 fluctuates with construction Revenue so it went from a little over 30 million 953 01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:10,000 last year to 32.16 um with that I believe that was 954 01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:15,760 and that 32 includes uh the bridge y corre so in another year it might be six 955 01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:20,600 million for The Interchange at New London yep so yeah that that's why this 956 01:23:19,639 --> 01:23:26,400 this budget is a little hard to when when we 957 01:23:23,719 --> 01:23:31,480 show it in the budget report because if you get a big Grant if you don't get a 958 01:23:28,159 --> 01:23:36,320 big Grant if you it it goes up and down quite a 959 01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:42,320 bit all right any other questions no good thank 960 01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:45,920 you CHF little break oh I'm sorry corki requested a three minute break and I am 961 01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:53,440 going to set a timer on you used to have a little thing with 962 01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:56,440 s I'm gonna set well no that was a 15 minute 963 01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,320 e 964 01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:56,320 e 965 01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:26,320 e 966 01:25:53,239 --> 01:25:56,239 e 967 01:26:23,239 --> 01:26:26,239 e 968 01:26:53,239 --> 01:26:56,239 e 969 01:27:23,119 --> 01:27:27,159 e e 970 01:28:23,119 --> 01:28:30,840 she we reconvene the KY County Board of 971 01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:34,360 Commissioners sh welcome afternoon chairman members of the board Eric tffs 972 01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:39,920 from cany County Sheriff um well here to just give you 973 01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:45,040 some highlights for for blow lights however you want to look at it for 974 01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:51,280 2025 um as far as the Sheriff's Office concerned when you're looking at your 975 01:28:47,440 --> 01:28:58,880 document um there's three main areas of course the county jail falls under my 976 01:28:55,719 --> 01:29:04,960 budget uh Dispatch Center and then there's one listed as Sheriff then also 977 01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:09,199 boat and water safety and and uh snow bill Patrol and saf so those are small 978 01:29:07,679 --> 01:29:15,080 little things that are just taken care of by grants and stuff 979 01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:18,239 so for your reference but one of the biggest things that will probably happen 980 01:29:17,239 --> 01:29:23,199 in 2025 will be the purchase of a computer 981 01:29:20,679 --> 01:29:27,119 AED dispatch um records management Corrections management 982 01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:33,480 civil process and law enforcement mobile software currently we're running LG 983 01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:40,080 which we purchased for a really really low price a long time ago um and uh 984 01:29:37,239 --> 01:29:45,400 they're sort of the company is sort of ending it so to speak through lack of 985 01:29:43,199 --> 01:29:51,320 support and there's a few aspects of it that don't currently work um we did kind 986 01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:55,600 of scramble in 20 when I first took office in 2023 all of the uh law 987 01:29:54,239 --> 01:30:01,400 enforcement agencies that were using letg were under the assumption turned 988 01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:05,880 out to be false information that letg was just going to end of life at a 989 01:30:02,719 --> 01:30:09,840 certain time and not support its software which would of course 990 01:30:07,679 --> 01:30:14,159 essentially us uh that didn't happen but they have really backed off 991 01:30:11,719 --> 01:30:18,760 on their support so a lot of agencies are looking at different different 992 01:30:16,719 --> 01:30:24,800 products that are out there um some agencies have already gone Sterns County 993 01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:29,000 has gone to another replacement um called Tyler 994 01:30:26,199 --> 01:30:33,520 Technologies um we're looking really hard at some of these vendors right now 995 01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:40,000 and we're also looking at the possibility of maybe being a host site 996 01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:43,159 for the outlying uh agencies that's around us that's what Sterns County is 997 01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:48,159 actually doing with Benton County and a few other agencies up there so there 998 01:30:45,440 --> 01:30:53,520 might be some Senate appropriation appropriation funding available for that 999 01:30:50,719 --> 01:31:01,040 type of scenario but we're still kind of exploring that so uh the next item would 1000 01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:06,040 be we're going to trade in if it's worth anything we still have the old style ATV 1001 01:31:03,440 --> 01:31:10,440 we haven't upgraded to a side by side so um we've been kind of on our wish list 1002 01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:17,080 so we're looking at working with some of the local businesses on that as well um 1003 01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:22,199 far as Staffing one thing we're going to try to explore we haven't posted for it 1004 01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:24,840 yet but we will be shortly uh part-time positions in the jail that will be 1005 01:31:23,679 --> 01:31:28,679 correct directional officers that will be assigned to court 1006 01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:34,840 security that is in response to more in-person uh Court hearings so things 1007 01:31:31,639 --> 01:31:38,320 are moving away from virtual when we were having virtual hearings the 1008 01:31:36,679 --> 01:31:42,840 correctional officer that was escorting the person to their hearing wasn't 1009 01:31:40,239 --> 01:31:46,760 technically leaving the facility so didn't really affect Staffing levels but 1010 01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:50,159 when they leave and go to the courthouse that affects the Staffing levels which 1011 01:31:48,440 --> 01:31:55,119 are based on inade population that kind of thing so now that we're doing more in 1012 01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:59,760 person so we're going to explore you know the word is 1013 01:31:57,119 --> 01:32:04,679 that maybe part-time position will be more you know desirable for some people 1014 01:32:02,199 --> 01:32:09,040 out there we'll see so and then also a medical secretary to assist with the uh 1015 01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:13,119 medical records within the jail which were required to 1016 01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:18,239 maintain and Cooper who's coming up on 11 years of service um and be our German 1017 01:32:16,440 --> 01:32:24,159 Shepherd Canine will be retiring at the end of this year so the intent then 1018 01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:30,320 would be to purchase another uh K9 in 20 25 but for that we we still have uh um 1019 01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:36,159 donations that we had received from from dunck and from the wi Area Community 1020 01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:40,800 Foundation to fund that so any questions nice and brief question for the sh so of 1021 01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:44,920 the it's a significant increase of nearly 10% what portion of that maybe 1022 01:32:43,639 --> 01:32:47,920 it's a better question for administrative Baker what portion of 1023 01:32:46,480 --> 01:32:54,280 that would be Levy dollars it's all Levy isn't it well is 1024 01:32:51,040 --> 01:33:01,560 there any do we use any of the funds to the jail is one of our um areas where we 1025 01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:09,360 do have um Revenue positive Revenue uh can we offset that with that Revenue 1026 01:33:05,679 --> 01:33:15,280 um instead of using levies Levy dollars I would recommend that um but 1027 01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:19,440 the sheriff's budget is in the general fund so therefore yes it is all 1028 01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:28,600 ly all right thank you other questions all the yes so all the software 1029 01:33:26,199 --> 01:33:33,560 increases of a million plus is that Levy them too they saying that's what I mean 1030 01:33:30,679 --> 01:33:37,320 that yeah I can explain that further so that will come from you know we a 1031 01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:42,400 significant portion of that can come from our 911 fund uh because you know 1032 01:33:40,679 --> 01:33:48,000 the cad system for instance which is a bulk of this you know we could it's a 1033 01:33:46,119 --> 01:33:52,600 it's a pretty comprehensive Software System it's everything from the the 1034 01:33:50,159 --> 01:33:57,239 mobile system that your squad cars are running that the each office 1035 01:33:54,480 --> 01:34:01,960 using it's the management records management system and the jail software 1036 01:33:59,239 --> 01:34:07,360 for intaking booking in inmates retaining uh records of them uh it's uh 1037 01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:10,600 so that's the corrections management the Civil process software and then of 1038 01:34:09,199 --> 01:34:16,440 course our records management itself because we hate we keep all of the uh 1039 01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:22,520 Public Safety records for the county and but yeah so areas of that 1040 01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:26,119 software that directly relate to the piece that was dispatch CER Center then 1041 01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:30,480 that can come out of the 911 fund then of course you know other agencies that 1042 01:34:28,199 --> 01:34:35,920 contribute will be part of that as well because Wilmer will be on the same 1043 01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:41,320 system as us as well more likely okay so all these that you listed here are not 1044 01:34:38,239 --> 01:34:46,000 weren't budgeted items last year right no they were not so really it's more 1045 01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:52,800 than $460,000 or whatever 1046 01:34:47,960 --> 01:35:00,040 40 a lost number whatever the uh 10% increase this is on top of that 1047 01:34:55,560 --> 01:35:05,560 correct yes yeah what fund would that I'm sorry I missed your question so um I 1048 01:35:02,639 --> 01:35:10,679 lost the uh the number but roughly 10% increase the question I asked about the 1049 01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:15,199 levy if that all comes out of the levy and the answer was yes but then um then 1050 01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:21,760 there's this we'll call it a million dollars for the mobile software uh uh up 1051 01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:26,080 replacement 33,000 and 120,000 so roughly $1.2 million 1052 01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:30,639 does that also come out of Levy or where does that come from well medical 1053 01:35:28,480 --> 01:35:35,400 secretary position we were discussing if that would come out of the reserves the 1054 01:35:32,239 --> 01:35:40,040 carry over yeah boarding Sheriff from the jail Reserve what about the 1 1055 01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:46,000 million one to two million on mobile software so that that's just the total 1056 01:35:42,719 --> 01:35:50,320 proc price of the U particular software that we're looking at right now so 1057 01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:54,480 that's total software and implementation and everything so like it explained it 1058 01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:59,239 could come come from you know some of that's going to come from existing funds 1059 01:35:56,040 --> 01:36:04,520 within the 911 fund that we have um some could come from other agencies um if we 1060 01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:09,239 end up being a host agency there could be some possibility for Senate 1061 01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:12,719 appropriation funds as well uh because they're they 1062 01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:17,199 funding like using the word consolidation but at the combining of 1063 01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:24,320 resources so like if we have you know surrounding counties then um participate 1064 01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:29,239 in the same uh software as us that would be a cost savings for everyone and then 1065 01:36:27,119 --> 01:36:33,360 so there uh St Louis county is actually going through that process right now and 1066 01:36:31,199 --> 01:36:39,239 I believe they I guess my bottom line question is that do we have everything 1067 01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:44,480 in and I know this is a draft but is everything in the 88.5% proposed okay so 1068 01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:49,960 if this is part of the levy then it's already included in that 1069 01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:55,199 8.5 if this would come from existing other funding sources as well as a Le so 1070 01:36:53,159 --> 01:36:59,560 otherwise it's it's about what 1% increase in the levy but it's not going 1071 01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:02,560 to be totally one the 439,000 1072 01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:12,280 so in other words that's that's my I just want to know where the money's 1073 01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:16,040 gonna come from so it's I'm not saying what you requested and what's what you 1074 01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:20,080 got have now you need so this how it's all going to work yeah I I know I may 1075 01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:24,040 have misunderstood too my role here but I'm just uh pointing out some of the 1076 01:37:22,719 --> 01:37:29,719 highlights good so the the the software it may not 1077 01:37:27,159 --> 01:37:36,520 even happen in 2025 we may stick with LJ through that year the uh um yeah and 1078 01:37:34,199 --> 01:37:40,760 then the and the can9 and that's that's money we already have okay and if the 1079 01:37:39,119 --> 01:37:45,719 software happens and I think I'm understanding it now it then it would 1080 01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:50,040 come out of um either grants or reserves wouldn't we wouldn't add to the general 1081 01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:55,440 fund correct where Sheriff tson was kind of coming in with the slide and maybe I 1082 01:37:52,159 --> 01:38:00,840 missed it from the beginning was part of the um the directive I gave to 1083 01:37:58,719 --> 01:38:06,880 department heads is what's planning even if it's not 2025 planning what's 1084 01:38:03,639 --> 01:38:12,800 upcoming and so this Pro process might start in 2025 but it might not be 1085 01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:19,480 implemented till 2026 so this is not included in the budget so that 88.5% is 1086 01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:24,800 everything that's included in your ifs a little bit I can I can explain more um 1087 01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:28,320 but some of stuff on his slide like that medical secretary I know he's been 1088 01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:32,840 having conversations with Connie and I regarding you know maybe that comes from 1089 01:38:30,639 --> 01:38:38,440 the carryover dollars from our reserves because it's a part-time position there 1090 01:38:36,239 --> 01:38:43,880 would be no benefits let's maybe look at this more creatively um and really this 1091 01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:48,639 is needed because of you know our ice contract and all of the documentation 1092 01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:53,480 that they're needed um they need to do right now it's it's a lot of work for 1093 01:38:51,119 --> 01:38:58,800 correctional officers and there they are are already worked very hard with the 1094 01:38:56,400 --> 01:39:04,239 amount of um individuals we have in our County jail and so and like he said the 1095 01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:08,119 the K9 we already have those funds so these are just kind of upcoming things 1096 01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:13,520 that are we're looking at moving forward as well so when he comes back maybe does 1097 01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:18,520 request to to utilize reserves or something on um to outdate the board on 1098 01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:23,560 this this is you would have had a heads up so the medical secretary will happen 1099 01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:27,599 in 2025 we're hoping because it is needed and 1100 01:39:25,639 --> 01:39:31,960 it's causing a lot of distress with but it's not in the 1101 01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:37,040 8.5% because it wouldn't need okay I really feel strongly yet that any salary 1102 01:39:35,199 --> 01:39:41,199 increases or positions be put on the levy and not come out of reserves 1103 01:39:38,480 --> 01:39:46,119 because then next year we're have to put on the levy in addition to the increase 1104 01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:51,199 over that year so I'm fine if but then we should be in the in the 1105 01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:55,760 levy so if that's the need there for for those positions let's do it let's put it 1106 01:39:53,760 --> 01:40:01,440 in the levy instead Tak on reserves so my question Mr chair would 1107 01:39:59,199 --> 01:40:07,280 it would it be are you talking the Jil the reserves from the jail or okay so 1108 01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:13,440 that's that's income so it's kind of like you know paying for that position 1109 01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:17,760 yeah it's not coming out of general fund reserves it's it's just coming out of 1110 01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:22,440 what excess the jail has so the jail is basically for the medical secretary as 1111 01:40:19,440 --> 01:40:25,920 well but but that position excuse me Mr chair is 1112 01:40:24,119 --> 01:40:29,960 it may be pay for that position for that year but you're going to have to put 1113 01:40:27,440 --> 01:40:34,920 that on the levy sooner or later and you have to make that up am I am I correct 1114 01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:40,159 on on that Karen well right now the jail is 1115 01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:45,360 carrying um a healthy reserve it would it would pay those salaries for quite 1116 01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:48,800 some time well there if the ice contract were to change in the near future that's 1117 01:40:47,480 --> 01:40:55,239 going to change are and I think nobody's 1118 01:40:52,000 --> 01:41:00,760 questioning the need no just how we do it yeah what bank we we take what fund 1119 01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:07,560 we take it out of CU When we approve this Levy after a while whatever percent 1120 01:41:03,719 --> 01:41:11,840 it ends up being um is that 125 for the secretary coming being added to that or 1121 01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:15,840 is it out of your F and I think I heard the answer those are really small 1122 01:41:13,440 --> 01:41:20,880 details in the grand scheme of things 1% is 350,000 I mean those are things that 1123 01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:24,760 Karen and I administr but three of those makes it gives you another percent I 1124 01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:29,280 don't those are things Eric and I have had conversations if we would add a 1125 01:41:26,679 --> 01:41:32,920 correctional officer if the medical secretary would have we needed if 1126 01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:38,360 something were to happen with contract those are things we have right this is 1127 01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:42,000 just Eric's Department if you get 30,000 another department you add them 1128 01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:50,840 all up and pretty soon you've got another percent on the on the 1129 01:41:45,199 --> 01:41:57,080 budget deal Eric if if that dispatching part of it if that breaks 1130 01:41:54,360 --> 01:42:01,440 are you like in trouble or you got some way to keep it going I guess that's my 1131 01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:06,560 if it's something that's going to break and it's going to be broke then I know 1132 01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:12,119 that's a lot of money but you need that yeah I I know what you're saying it was 1133 01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:15,440 kind of the fear early on um but uh know it's it's a company that's been so the 1134 01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:18,280 reason we got it for such a good price many years ago is because we were one of 1135 01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:22,159 the first people that bought into it they were they were like a startup and 1136 01:42:20,719 --> 01:42:28,440 they they gave us a really good deal I think right around 250 50,000 we paid 1137 01:42:24,199 --> 01:42:33,719 for that entire system um but you know I as things happen as companies change 1138 01:42:30,199 --> 01:42:38,360 hands and then you know they they sort of you know how technology they sort of 1139 01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:41,760 just make things become outdated intentionally so the company that 1140 01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:46,199 currently owns what we're using offers another product and they they want to 1141 01:42:44,199 --> 01:42:49,880 push you to that you know so I mean the support is still there the company still 1142 01:42:47,639 --> 01:42:55,280 exists it's not like they but you know the the the scramble or the 1143 01:42:53,639 --> 01:42:59,520 the Panic that we experienced a little over year a little over a year ago was I 1144 01:42:57,280 --> 01:43:04,840 think just a rumor amongst probably these companies you know it was kind of 1145 01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:09,840 a mess so M Mr yeah so at at my Emergency Services Board we had we had a 1146 01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:15,080 big conversation about this a lot of these providers they they kind of got 1147 01:43:12,639 --> 01:43:18,880 you because at when they first sell it to you they go we got support but then 1148 01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:25,239 after about five years they go yeah we're not going to support this year 1149 01:43:21,440 --> 01:43:29,199 anymore but we have a you on here and so that's where they they kind of get 1150 01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:34,239 everybody and everybody feels like what how can we do what we do about this and 1151 01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:38,400 there really isn't you're kind of stuck I mean y I'm glad we didn't there were 1152 01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:43,320 some counties that jumped onto something really quick um and I'm glad we didn't 1153 01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:46,679 because now we have the advantage of being able to sit back and look at this 1154 01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:52,040 product that we're really interested in that is currently being put uh to work 1155 01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:56,480 or to put to use in Sterns County and uh to see how it goals for them and uh 1156 01:43:54,280 --> 01:44:02,080 especially that part where where Benton is actually is is going to be 1157 01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:06,360 participating as a user within so Stern already got B County on board it's it's 1158 01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:11,239 kind of neat so I'm glad we're able to to see that to let that them kind of 1159 01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:18,599 Blaze the trailer so to speak all right well thanks Sheriff 1160 01:44:15,159 --> 01:44:22,199 right free to go all right thanks veteran services I don't see Trish here 1161 01:44:20,599 --> 01:44:26,080 so I assume administrator breaker is going to handle this one 1162 01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:30,880 TR was unable to be here so I'll just do a a quick recap 1163 01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:36,520 um information on the slide what we're trying to do within the veteran services 1164 01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:40,719 officer or veteran service office um we did increase the pums for the advisory 1165 01:44:38,480 --> 01:44:45,560 council members that's been talked about and so that was added in the budget um 1166 01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:49,920 we're planning multiple veterans events throughout the county but those events 1167 01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:55,040 are paid for through the grant that we get through the state which we get that 1168 01:44:52,159 --> 01:45:00,800 $10,000 Trish was just here to approve that contract so that's what um pays for 1169 01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:07,599 the majority of those outings and some of that is in kind or um different free 1170 01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:12,639 events and things like that throughout the community um and then we're working 1171 01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:18,400 with St Cloud standown and bringing food to Veterans um who are struggling 1172 01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:22,639 financially um or have uh personal burdens things like that to deliver uh 1173 01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:27,520 five to 10 boxes a week so they're narrow down um some of those veterans 1174 01:45:25,679 --> 01:45:31,599 that would be able to be able to have that service one thing we're also 1175 01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:36,679 working on is providing a timely newsletter with the information that 1176 01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:40,840 we're working on um and then some sort of mass communication so we can send out 1177 01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:45,320 a text where all veterans that sign up receive the same information a reminder 1178 01:45:43,239 --> 01:45:50,199 if there's an event reminder for the advisory Council different things like 1179 01:45:47,159 --> 01:45:54,679 that and so we are working um we're working with Melissa actually be on a 1180 01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:58,199 software that's been utilized in our Emergency Management and then we'll 1181 01:45:56,679 --> 01:46:00,639 eventually be working with Scott to see if there's other solutions that we're 1182 01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:05,080 able to use so that's a wrap up for all the 1183 01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:09,320 department heads reasoning why and I think I said this a lot before was the 1184 01:46:07,159 --> 01:46:14,000 reasoning why I had departments had department head heads come and present 1185 01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:19,880 is because this is an increase in the levy I wanted you to hear not just from 1186 01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:23,239 me um because of the raise uh increase in the levy I wanted you to hear it from 1187 01:46:21,599 --> 01:46:28,440 them that these are the needs that I hear from them on determining whether or 1188 01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:33,280 not it's approved or denied in the overall budget and so one thing I I 1189 01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:36,679 think we'll start doing this maybe every other year not every year we need to do 1190 01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:40,679 this presentation like I said before some counties do it some counties don't 1191 01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:44,000 um but I think it's really important to hear from All County departments and for 1192 01:46:42,679 --> 01:46:49,920 you to hear from them because that's what I'm hearing when I present to you 1193 01:46:47,119 --> 01:46:55,040 the final Levy so moving forward the wages so this is something I also 1194 01:46:52,239 --> 01:47:01,080 included at the TNT meeting as well um so included is the full-time wages for 1195 01:46:57,599 --> 01:47:09,920 2025 2026 and 2027 that's just a look ahead on what we're seeing so this does 1196 01:47:04,480 --> 01:47:15,280 include um the steps in Cola and um this also fluctuates um like Shane said 1197 01:47:13,599 --> 01:47:18,800 sometimes when you have someone retire and they're at the the top of the scale 1198 01:47:17,199 --> 01:47:23,000 and you have you bring someone in and there at a step one or two that makes a 1199 01:47:21,159 --> 01:47:26,760 huge difference if somebody's coming in taking our insurance things like that 1200 01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:32,040 health insurance plays a role in all of that and so um this is always a moving 1201 01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:37,800 Target but this is the best guesstimate that we have for 26 and 27 and to note 1202 01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:43,000 26 would be the end of our three-year contracts uh and so 27 would be a new 1203 01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:47,360 contract and I don't um I think the staff have really appreciated the wage 1204 01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:52,159 increase and the the relook at the the insurance and the benefits and in 1205 01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:57,239 conversations you know Connie and I have already talked T won't be here um for 1206 01:47:55,119 --> 01:48:02,040 going into 27 I don't feel that we'll need to relook at our wage we might 1207 01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:06,599 modify our wage scale and maybe relook at the percentage in between steps how 1208 01:48:04,719 --> 01:48:12,040 many people are at a step 10 and kind of re-evaluate that but I don't for see 1209 01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:21,480 coming to the board and asking for an increase um I I got a question Karen do 1210 01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:28,480 you have the 2024 numbers for for those um but if you had the total I do not 1211 01:48:26,159 --> 01:48:32,960 have those with me okay I could get those though and send okay and then um 1212 01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:39,320 this does not include I think this year if I understand right this year I 1213 01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:45,840 understand we still have the uh we still have the health Reserve 1214 01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:50,880 health health insurance Reserve but I don't see health insurance or is that in 1215 01:48:47,679 --> 01:48:56,360 here some 25 26 27 no so we don't have our final health 1216 01:48:53,560 --> 01:49:02,639 insurance numbers for 25 and so that's something that we um we receip numbers 1217 01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:08,159 this morning I'll I'll get into that um but if you give me one second I'll 1218 01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:13,560 have and if you if you could do the total that's good 1219 01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:17,639 enough of full-time wages part-time wages overtime wages F and P you 1220 01:49:15,679 --> 01:49:22,639 received that in the TNT presentation yeah do you have them in front of you 1221 01:49:19,639 --> 01:49:22,639 okay 1222 01:49:31,639 --> 01:49:43,119 2024 was 36987 300 and that was all included in the TNT presentation from 20 1223 01:49:40,239 --> 01:49:49,400 yeah would you repeat that again 36 um for 2024 fulltime wages were 34 1224 01:49:47,760 --> 01:49:56,920 m987 300 parttime wages we estimated at 3 1225 01:49:53,199 --> 01:50:04,480 96,000 OT wages we estimated at 445,000 F Pera we estimated at 1226 01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:11,599 5,577 300 totaling 41,46 that's the number I'm looking 41 1227 01:50:08,440 --> 01:50:14,599 million you talk fast 41,46 1228 01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:26,159 1100 okay thank you and so go there's a lot of moving 1229 01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:30,199 parts right now um I was at my regional meeting that we host here in Wilmer a 1230 01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:33,800 couple weeks ago and I was asking other counties where they're at and on the 1231 01:50:32,199 --> 01:50:36,920 preliminary Levy and they were like oh my gosh we're not even close yet Kelsey 1232 01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:42,760 where are you you're really ahead of the game and so there's a lot of moving 1233 01:50:39,239 --> 01:50:49,280 parts from today until September 16th now and that's where today really the 1234 01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:53,040 budget work session how I look at this is really the guidance and direction 1235 01:50:51,119 --> 01:50:57,880 from you not to get in the weed that's my job to do that work is really the 1236 01:50:54,960 --> 01:51:03,079 guidance to when I get to the September 16th that we can approve that you can 1237 01:51:00,440 --> 01:51:07,440 approve that Levy September 3rd I'll provide an update to the board on where 1238 01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:13,400 we're coming in it so we're still kind of fine-tuning things 1239 01:51:10,599 --> 01:51:18,159 um that's typically how this work session should work then is um you know 1240 01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:22,840 Gathering that information looking for guidance from the board the next slide 1241 01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:28,920 would be the Quasi government requests that come into the county um you can see 1242 01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:33,280 there's an additional column it says requested 2025 those are all the amounts 1243 01:51:32,159 --> 01:51:38,040 that have been requested and the total at the bottom 1244 01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:42,599 and then you see the last column there is recommended 1245 01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:46,679 2025 these are the recommendations that I have put 1246 01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:51,320 in how do you reach how do you arrive at those 1247 01:51:47,880 --> 01:51:56,239 recommendations I base it off the levy so however what's requested for the 1248 01:51:56,800 --> 01:52:05,560 2025 that's in that 8.5% Levy so when I say that 1249 01:52:02,719 --> 01:52:10,599 88.5% don't take that to heart because if you were to look at me and Nod say 1250 01:52:08,599 --> 01:52:16,960 Kelsey go with that recommended that amount that already lowers the 1251 01:52:13,639 --> 01:52:21,840 levy in on the quasa government I'm sorry I'm a little 1252 01:52:19,079 --> 01:52:27,639 confused on that yeah you're which one you're talking about with if you were to 1253 01:52:24,199 --> 01:52:34,320 look at the requested 2025 yeah those are all in the ifs budget that got us to 1254 01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:40,960 that 8.5% ly right but if I were to put in the recommended that already lowers 1255 01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:45,920 that 88.5% Levy oh gotta yeah okay thank you for the 1256 01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:50,320 explanation but so yeah so the the the requested is the 1257 01:52:48,440 --> 01:52:57,840 8.5 no you or the I'm talking about the 1258 01:52:54,560 --> 01:53:03,800 total uh recommendation for the levy it's not really a recommendation or 1259 01:53:01,599 --> 01:53:08,920 where it would be at if we accepted it today right y if we accepted the 1260 01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:13,480 recommend your recommended instead of the requests no the request the request 1261 01:53:11,440 --> 01:53:17,560 yeah so I'm sayfe yeah okay and I'm okay with that I think it's right 1262 01:53:18,119 --> 01:53:30,280 on and so these are you know I I lowered so like s swcd they requested that 1263 01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:35,320 536 536,000 I lowered that to 350,000 now this doesn't I I want to really 1264 01:53:33,159 --> 01:53:40,960 preface this doesn't mean I don't support the S swcd and support the water 1265 01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:44,840 initiative this is in order if the board at the end of this work session says 1266 01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:50,480 Kelsey I really would like you to get in get the levy to a six to a six seven and 1267 01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:57,920 a half% then that is what I'm going to look at to cut um and so that's where um 1268 01:53:55,599 --> 01:54:03,119 some of my recommendations there is some areas of 1269 01:54:00,679 --> 01:54:08,599 improvement and so if we wanted to use one-time exception funds like reserves 1270 01:54:05,679 --> 01:54:12,880 things like that what we did with s swcd this for 2024 we approved their request 1271 01:54:12,159 --> 01:54:19,639 at 285,000 but then the board approved to 1272 01:54:16,679 --> 01:54:25,199 pull $300,000 from the building fund reserves for their new building and so 1273 01:54:22,599 --> 01:54:29,920 are there is some wiggle room when I say if we couldn't approve the the entire if 1274 01:54:28,199 --> 01:54:34,960 you wouldn't want to approve the entire requested 1275 01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:41,480 amount Mr chair thank you so with with the soil and water request for the 1276 01:54:38,239 --> 01:54:48,000 536 what is all that for then wages that is all for wages exactly 1277 01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:51,800 okay so this would be an ongoing request I mean or or that it's in the it's going 1278 01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:57,440 to be built in the levy so each year then if we did the full 1279 01:54:54,639 --> 01:55:02,480 amount typically their requests don't go down but in this instance it could go 1280 01:55:00,199 --> 01:55:09,000 down I you know that's really up to that operating board like if you can see CCT 1281 01:55:05,679 --> 01:55:15,560 in 2024 requested 20,500 and in 2025 they requested 20,000 1282 01:55:13,159 --> 01:55:21,599 so it's not typical that you're going to see a a quasi government entity go down 1283 01:55:18,679 --> 01:55:28,119 in their request um but because of the jump from with s swcd from 285 to 536 1284 01:55:26,199 --> 01:55:34,800 you might see that go back down or kind of even out a little bit but I I'm not 1285 01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:40,520 sure on that so I because I I I may misunderstand this but is some of the 1286 01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:46,119 requests including uh matches local matches fromc yeah not from the these 1287 01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:51,400 are straight County Levy requests but I mean are they used for match so if 1288 01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:56,119 there's less projects in another year it can go down yeah yeah yeah and there is 1289 01:55:53,840 --> 01:56:01,840 a I'm just going to throw this out here there is a way to meet that without 1290 01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:08,199 using Levy dollars and that's those excess dish funds that that are they 1291 01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:13,440 qualify for water yeah so and that account still continues to build even 1292 01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:18,360 with the what they're taking out so we could you know what's going to get lost 1293 01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:22,760 the first one taken off the list is games nor because it was the last one on 1294 01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:27,400 so and those are things absolutely that I 1295 01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:34,040 can look at and we can we could utilize the repairing $8 and um I could still 1296 01:56:30,920 --> 01:56:39,239 keep it at the 350,000 and we could use the the buffer dollars to offset that 1297 01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:45,119 cost to get it up to that 5 530 no so let's say I would use Levy use 1298 01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:49,320 County Levy dollars at that point oh yes yes yes got it y yeah so then we would 1299 01:56:47,159 --> 01:56:54,760 use the repairing a to like offset that difference right I think it's that we 1300 01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:58,800 should consider I go ahead oh I actually I think this is a year that that we 1301 01:56:56,360 --> 01:57:02,800 could go 8.5 I know it's a big jump but I think we looking back historically 1302 01:57:01,079 --> 01:57:08,320 we've done so well and this is kind of an adjustment and yet moving forward 1303 01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:12,480 with some um some positive things taking place meeting the needs out there so I'm 1304 01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:16,400 com comfortable with what you what's there at 8.5 without digging into more 1305 01:57:15,199 --> 01:57:21,840 and going have more questions like I said it's going to change but I I I I 1306 01:57:19,880 --> 01:57:26,079 see yeah and there's a couple things though we go to the next slide for the 1307 01:57:23,480 --> 01:57:29,800 2025 proposed Levy that you know the listed gross Levy that we're had that 1308 01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:37,159 we're at that's where I'm at yeah yep that 48 million the 2025 CPA yep County 1309 01:57:34,040 --> 01:57:43,440 program Aid and our 2024 net Levy was that 38 million and so that jump right 1310 01:57:39,400 --> 01:57:48,079 now is that 10 right there and so um I had this slide too and I think this is a 1311 01:57:45,119 --> 01:57:54,159 really just transparent basic sixth grade math level like telling how we get 1312 01:57:51,159 --> 01:57:59,400 there and so after CPA we you know we minus that off we get to that 45 million 1313 01:57:56,800 --> 01:58:05,520 so the landfill cell construction which Gary talked about in the heavy equipment 1314 01:58:01,800 --> 01:58:12,560 purchase that um combined was 3.6 million and so I have taken that out of 1315 01:58:09,320 --> 01:58:18,040 the reserves and so when we get to our that's how we get to that 88.5% I'm not 1316 01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:22,840 including the landfill cell construction project within that 1317 01:58:20,159 --> 01:58:27,440 8.5% preliminary level it's a wash with the reserve yes right and it's 1318 01:58:24,679 --> 01:58:31,480 absolutely and it's a one time expense and so that has been done in the past 1319 01:58:29,159 --> 01:58:37,520 and so that's why we went with that 8.5 that's the proper use service 1320 01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:42,639 right um and so the levy history in this is I 1321 01:58:40,840 --> 01:58:49,760 kind of have gone over this in the past two and so we've really kept it under a 1322 01:58:46,440 --> 01:58:56,199 5% so I appreciate your comment Corky regarding that 8.5% 1323 01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:59,880 um but some next steps are um thank you to all the staff all the department 1324 01:58:58,320 --> 01:59:02,719 heads we I mean I think I've been working on this budget longer than any 1325 01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:07,520 other administrator in the state of Minnesota I feel like um and the staff 1326 01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:11,159 we talk about this almost at every monthly if unless we've had to cancel a 1327 01:59:09,719 --> 01:59:14,599 department head meeting we talk about the 1328 01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:17,679 budget um and so it's really the direction from the County Board where's 1329 01:59:16,239 --> 01:59:20,320 that sweet spot that the board is looking for are you comfortable with 1330 01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:25,040 that 8% because there's still some moving Parts like I said health 1331 01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:30,159 insurance it's a 5050 split so employer and employee it's that 5050 split we put 1332 01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:35,679 in for a 20% um we had uh Connie and Lisa were on 1333 01:59:33,960 --> 01:59:40,800 a call this morning with a finalized number or their their proposal um but I 1334 01:59:39,400 --> 01:59:47,560 want to wait to talk with them but that's a lot lower than that 20% so we 1335 01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:52,320 could probably see a good 300,000 come out of the budget right there that quasi 1336 01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:57,679 governmental come out of the budget or be added to it come out of the budget 1337 01:59:55,199 --> 02:00:01,679 and so um the Quasi government if I put in that recommended we use some of the 1338 01:59:59,520 --> 02:00:07,239 repair need that's probably another 160,000 give or take so right there is 1339 02:00:04,639 --> 02:00:12,000 almost a percent and a half so and then if we were to use any of the reserves 1340 02:00:10,159 --> 02:00:16,000 and I don't if we go with that higher Levy we shouldn't have to use if the 1341 02:00:14,239 --> 02:00:21,119 board is okay with going with the higher Levy we honestly shouldn't have to use 1342 02:00:18,199 --> 02:00:27,000 any of our reserves to for the preliminary Lev I I guess for me I feel 1343 02:00:24,079 --> 02:00:32,199 comfortable um going with that because then that gets us from where we should 1344 02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:40,280 have been for 24 moving forward going into 25 for 26 and 27 it Le it levels 1345 02:00:35,800 --> 02:00:44,400 out that Levy um so the reason I asked that about the 1346 02:00:41,760 --> 02:00:48,480 2024 and this does not include insurance I think last year Karen was like three4 1347 02:00:46,719 --> 02:00:52,040 of a million dollars that we use a of reserves to cover the health health 1348 02:00:50,520 --> 02:00:57,599 benefits maybe even 850,000 1349 02:00:54,280 --> 02:01:02,800 600 but there's all that that's a finite 147,000 there's a finite account amount 1350 02:01:00,800 --> 02:01:07,440 there so at one point that probably has to get added in here no I don't think we 1351 02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:12,280 have I don't think this year we'll have to use our no not this year but but in 1352 02:01:10,639 --> 02:01:17,119 2026 2027 so without the insurance in here 1353 02:01:15,239 --> 02:01:23,480 and I'll get to my point in a minute I did a calculation from 2024 our current 1354 02:01:19,920 --> 02:01:28,599 year so next year just just because of wages part-time overtime that whole 1355 02:01:26,239 --> 02:01:34,199 package we go up 5.2% following year is 5.2% as it's 1356 02:01:32,280 --> 02:01:39,440 proposed here the following year after that is 1357 02:01:35,199 --> 02:01:44,639 6.3 so I think it's 100% reason that we're at 8.2 because or whatever because 1358 02:01:42,560 --> 02:01:50,679 there's other inflation involved besides wage inflation you know the cost of fuel 1359 02:01:48,119 --> 02:01:57,320 can go up the cost of pencils can go up and so if just if you took the 1360 02:01:54,360 --> 02:02:02,800 wage inflation if you will and took General inflation you probably at that 1361 02:01:59,719 --> 02:02:08,040 8% and I know people are saying I get it because we're paying 1362 02:02:05,840 --> 02:02:13,320 more at the store for salaries and McDonald's is paying more and so they 1363 02:02:10,960 --> 02:02:18,880 get it when you have to raise wages and most of our cost is wages and I 1364 02:02:16,000 --> 02:02:24,480 absolutely and that's very typical when it comes to any business I just have uh 1365 02:02:22,639 --> 02:02:29,320 yeah so I you know this is a big concern for me too you know it's hard because 1366 02:02:26,880 --> 02:02:33,920 Farmers you know they their income is going down when we're going to be going 1367 02:02:31,239 --> 02:02:38,719 up but I talked to a county commissioner I can't remember which conference it was 1368 02:02:35,719 --> 02:02:44,440 we were at and he'd been a commissioner for close to 30 years and he said you 1369 02:02:41,840 --> 02:02:49,599 have to go he said your budget almost has to follow inflation or he said you 1370 02:02:46,520 --> 02:02:54,119 get in trouble if you don't and and and it happens really quick he said and it's 1371 02:02:51,239 --> 02:02:59,119 hard to dig up out of that so I don't like that it's eight and a half but I I 1372 02:02:57,760 --> 02:03:03,679 understand it you know we we have to be yeah I'm saying it 1373 02:03:02,239 --> 02:03:09,400 times I'm the only one here up for election that is but you know but I I I 1374 02:03:07,159 --> 02:03:17,560 get it but at the same time you know as a you know land owner it's hard to 1375 02:03:13,599 --> 02:03:22,520 stomach it but but I you we're stuck I mean you have inflation and that factors 1376 02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:27,320 into a big and if you look at our his we've been pretty good well and and 1377 02:03:24,639 --> 02:03:31,960 actually probably Mr CH we've been pretty good because other counties the 1378 02:03:30,040 --> 02:03:39,320 last couple years they've all been almost I many were a lot higher on their 1379 02:03:35,960 --> 02:03:44,480 Levy than we were cities yeah oh in the cities and yes you know uh a county 1380 02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:49,159 commissioner once told me that it's you shouldn't always pride yourself on 1381 02:03:45,920 --> 02:03:52,679 having a low Levy Y and sometimes that's hard to wrap your head around that's 1382 02:03:50,800 --> 02:03:57,679 hard to tell your constituents um and that's hard coming 1383 02:03:55,719 --> 02:04:03,800 into a county that's always consistently had a low Levy and here I am disrupting 1384 02:04:00,599 --> 02:04:08,559 every apple cart there is but I think the work that we're doing also shows it 1385 02:04:06,679 --> 02:04:12,520 and I think one thing I wanted to end on when you go back to the beginning slide 1386 02:04:10,719 --> 02:04:18,840 is the planning and I think I really credit the staff to this work we're not 1387 02:04:15,639 --> 02:04:22,400 only just planning what we're doing with our roads which seems to get a lot of 1388 02:04:20,800 --> 02:04:26,559 air time but we're also going to be looking at strategic planning with the 1389 02:04:24,840 --> 02:04:30,639 board what is the vision what are the goals for the county we're planning 1390 02:04:28,840 --> 02:04:34,000 Caroline's doing a phenomenal job looking at our staffing and our 1391 02:04:32,079 --> 02:04:39,199 technology and how do we better serve our clients and our 1392 02:04:36,360 --> 02:04:44,400 constituents um how do we better serve with technology and that all kind of 1393 02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:48,880 encompasses that planning and not that we haven't done a good job and I we have 1394 02:04:46,239 --> 02:04:55,079 done a good job but we want to continue to do a good job with that and so I 1395 02:04:51,320 --> 02:05:02,079 think to 20 for 2025 if we can really dig in and get some planning done to set 1396 02:04:58,400 --> 02:05:09,559 us up for 26 and set us up for 27 you all will be aware of what is coming down 1397 02:05:04,480 --> 02:05:14,040 the pipe for a budgetary request and so I'll end it at that I think I have a 1398 02:05:11,159 --> 02:05:18,800 good gauge on the8 and a half% the the one comment I have that I don't know if 1399 02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:22,079 that'll be the preliminary because we'll I'll kind of fine-tune some numbers I'm 1400 02:05:20,639 --> 02:05:27,559 not going to just cushion it just to cushion it um but we'll fine tune some 1401 02:05:24,599 --> 02:05:31,480 numbers in between now and September 3rd at the September 3rd meeting I will 1402 02:05:29,239 --> 02:05:36,159 provide just a short update of where we're at um with the levy and then at 1403 02:05:34,360 --> 02:05:41,679 that September 16th they'll come with a resolution on the final preliminary Levy 1404 02:05:39,079 --> 02:05:45,159 so there are some more questions well I guess and I'm just going to be the 1405 02:05:43,360 --> 02:05:48,480 devil's advocate here because I talked to somebody and I won't say what county 1406 02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:55,480 it was this weekend and they're going to come in at 12% so my question is I know 1407 02:05:52,000 --> 02:06:00,599 it's high but is it high enough to start as a preliminary is it high enough I 1408 02:05:58,199 --> 02:06:05,199 mean you have to ask the question even though we don't want to even think about 1409 02:06:02,239 --> 02:06:05,199 you didn't say that with all the 1410 02:06:06,719 --> 02:06:13,000 department write that down I think Caroline said it best when there's 1411 02:06:10,960 --> 02:06:18,440 always she said it best there's always needs and desires for more Staffing 1412 02:06:15,360 --> 02:06:21,679 right right but we have to be Steward right well and like I said I'm just I'm 1413 02:06:20,280 --> 02:06:25,840 just saying it because it needs to be yes I'm not saying I want to do it 1414 02:06:23,119 --> 02:06:30,480 either but I'm just I think that's where we're looking at the planning I will be 1415 02:06:27,480 --> 02:06:35,920 honest in the in Department 880 I know if it um Shane Tammy Joe some 1416 02:06:33,639 --> 02:06:41,960 departments added training dollars within their budget I did add dollars 1417 02:06:38,599 --> 02:06:46,040 within the 880 which is kind of the um depart the commissioner's budget I would 1418 02:06:43,920 --> 02:06:50,320 call it under Professional Services I cush I shouldn't say cushion but I added 1419 02:06:48,079 --> 02:06:55,040 dollars in there for training not only just training but also strategic 1420 02:06:52,040 --> 02:07:00,360 planning if we have public committee events um and so I don't always like to 1421 02:06:58,079 --> 02:07:05,760 cushion the budget on that because we have such a large budget um and I would 1422 02:07:04,079 --> 02:07:11,360 to be honest I don't know if there's is a lot of cushion these we've really fine 1423 02:07:08,400 --> 02:07:16,840 tune on where we code things in line items where we're pulling it out of 1424 02:07:13,840 --> 02:07:20,679 who's paying for what um sort of thing so we've really fine-tuned that and 1425 02:07:18,639 --> 02:07:25,480 that's has been set up by that my predecessor as well well and I don't 1426 02:07:22,840 --> 02:07:30,920 know other than one other Western County that is this well with you know 1427 02:07:27,719 --> 02:07:35,880 Financial reserves so kudos to Larry for doing that for me to come in as a new 1428 02:07:33,079 --> 02:07:41,719 administrator that's really healthy um to come in with really healthy reserves 1429 02:07:38,199 --> 02:07:47,599 to work off budgets in this time Mr yeah so going back on like Soil and Water are 1430 02:07:44,800 --> 02:07:53,679 we going to is there consensus that we can take out of that buffer strip money 1431 02:07:50,199 --> 02:07:59,400 to help meet their goal so that they can access you know funds I mean they they 1432 02:07:56,760 --> 02:08:03,639 have a lot of projects they want to do and there's a lot of money available if 1433 02:08:01,360 --> 02:08:08,800 they can I think I have the consensus now that would still all be approved at 1434 02:08:05,280 --> 02:08:14,000 the September 16th okay when we do that then I'll explain you'll see that in the 1435 02:08:10,719 --> 02:08:19,040 budget I'll have this I'll um have the budget presentation numbers in the board 1436 02:08:16,840 --> 02:08:26,960 package all right great thank so I got a question it's my last question um 1437 02:08:22,719 --> 02:08:32,320 you your budget and the commissioner's budget is down by about 8% or something 1438 02:08:29,480 --> 02:08:36,639 like that how will that affect what we're is that because we were going to 1439 02:08:34,079 --> 02:08:41,239 take a pay cut I'm just kidding your wages are up to you so we haven't added 1440 02:08:38,719 --> 02:08:46,119 that in there get that so your W your department will increase depending on 1441 02:08:43,239 --> 02:08:52,599 what you do for your wages um we don't do that until until December um but how 1442 02:08:49,119 --> 02:08:57,960 how does how do you you know what's that 35,000 has that been over budg budgeted 1443 02:08:55,719 --> 02:09:04,920 over the years is that why you're able to for the Commissioners yeah and your 1444 02:09:01,320 --> 02:09:11,840 you're down 14 you're down 14,000 too you didn't know that wages yeah but I Mr 1445 02:09:08,960 --> 02:09:17,199 CH my feeling is it's a budget we'll go with it you know both of our budgets we 1446 02:09:15,040 --> 02:09:21,000 do what we have to do if some training comes up and we meet meet the max we'll 1447 02:09:19,239 --> 02:09:27,840 still probably find a way to do it you know so it's I think we're okay no I I 1448 02:09:25,079 --> 02:09:34,559 mean I'm just curious from 24 to 25 how it could go 1449 02:09:31,559 --> 02:09:39,760 down in in our case 35,000 in your case 14,000 and maintain what we've been 1450 02:09:36,920 --> 02:09:45,239 doing e either for our wages or our because our our travel and our our all 1451 02:09:43,679 --> 02:09:52,400 policy and all that stuff comes out of there too right for you guys yep yep 1452 02:09:49,280 --> 02:09:57,639 cover all or was it you're typically a little over on your travel okay um but 1453 02:09:55,159 --> 02:10:01,559 you're really I think I don't have why wouldn't we increase it a 1454 02:09:59,760 --> 02:10:06,440 little bit rather than decrease it to make sure that so we don't go over well 1455 02:10:04,280 --> 02:10:10,520 it it could be a one-time thing one time year thing take reses you typically 1456 02:10:09,119 --> 02:10:18,760 don't do that all five always go um come out of 1457 02:10:14,639 --> 02:10:23,840 reses if they have an idea what you want your wages or to go up we can certainly 1458 02:10:22,040 --> 02:10:27,840 put that in the budget well they're not going to change much I would think not 1459 02:10:25,559 --> 02:10:34,040 like hen County want what I'm seeing is that but I mean 1460 02:10:30,840 --> 02:10:40,119 if you're thinking 5% right but if we've been using pretty much what's been 1461 02:10:36,239 --> 02:10:46,440 budgeted for 23 to 24 to 25 wouldn't you go just add 3% to it just like we did 1462 02:10:43,079 --> 02:10:53,760 for the employees and call that the number rather than you know go down 35 1463 02:10:50,280 --> 02:10:59,079 didn't last you didn't take AE correct that didn't make $35,000 difference for 1464 02:10:56,360 --> 02:11:06,400 this year right but we can put something in for 25 1465 02:11:03,639 --> 02:11:13,119 but that W only erase that whole 35,000 what even a 3% 1466 02:11:10,040 --> 02:11:17,320 increase yeah 3 maybe when you add p and all that stuff to I I don't think have a 1467 02:11:15,440 --> 02:11:23,239 budget breaker and I just think we should leave and vote on it not I'm not 1468 02:11:19,320 --> 02:11:23,239 supporting a we increase 1469 02:11:26,400 --> 02:11:34,119 no budget work thank you for your time um longer 1470 02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:37,920 than 90 minutes but we'll get the hang of this you know we're not going to do 1471 02:11:36,520 --> 02:11:43,480 the department head every year but I think um that's all I have that was okay 1472 02:11:41,480 --> 02:11:49,480 and if we want have questions we can probably ask you or Karen if we have 1473 02:11:46,239 --> 02:11:49,480 a but we're 1474 02:11:49,559 --> 02:11:53,239 not and then we will 1475 02:11:53,360 --> 02:11:56,960 Jour holy I 1476 02:11:59,119 --> 02:12:03,440 got is this going to be on YouTube too