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[2:40] don't it are you ready okay and we're
back we reconvene the Ken County Board
[2:47] of Commissioners meeting in a work
session regarding the
[2:52] budget Mr
Baker good afternoon I think it's
[2:57] afternoon uh after 12 uh Kelsey Waker
candy County
[3:02] Administrator uh I am here with uh
department heads and staff to present
[3:07] the 2025 budget we have um a
presentation for you all you have
[3:13] binders that were handed out in your
seats they have um they have the this
[3:18] presentation so you have a a paper copy
they have the spreadsheet that was
[3:23] included in the board packet so you have
that more in detail um and they have
[3:28] some other information that you'll and
then they have the full ifs 2025
[3:32] preliminary budget this is not the
official certified official budget this
[3:38] is our this is actually our third
working draft there's already probably
[3:43] maybe um some changes that will be made
to this so just remember in today's
[3:48] discussion um the overall departments
those are pretty much solidified that's
[3:53] why we're presenting this information
but there are some other maybe quazi
[3:57] government um health insurance that are
still kind of fluid numbers within this
[4:02] budget um that we haven't finalized
quite yet Minister Baker before you go
[4:08] into the kind of the uh yeah the details
uh give us a quick background of the
[4:14] process how when you start how how you
process with the different departments
[4:19] and how you arrive at at this
preliminary I was going to do that oh
[4:24] good I didn't see it on on the it's not
on
[4:28] there um
so the 2025 budget
[4:33] Focus so when I start meeting with each
department um initially we have it on
[4:38] the agenda the department had agenda in
May and we start scheduling those
[4:43] one-on-one meetings with each department
in June I like to have initial meetings
[4:48] with department heads just to have an
idea that's when we're just having a
[4:52] conversation we don't have maybe numbers
finalized by any means but we're just
[4:56] having conversations So within those
conversations I have an idea that we're
[5:01] going to be doing a landfill we're
looking at a cell construction so Gary
[5:06] then tells me that's a big number right
and so then we're looking at Human
[5:10] Services and when in talking with each
department in June and July I look for
[5:15] common themes and at your rad and Bridge
work session Mel talked about
[5:20] preservation and planning for the county
moving forward so that process entails
[5:25] meeting with department heads in June
meeting with them possibly again for a
[5:30] second or a third meeting in July and
really that's what it entails it's
[5:35] meeting with the staff figuring out
where we want to come and present our
[5:40] preliminary budget fine-tuning FTE how
many are we um how many should we
[5:45] approve for the 2025 budget what is
being requested um and what's the
[5:52] analysis is there background information
of why it's being requested are we not
[5:56] meeting deadlines things like that are
we looking at technology and so all
[6:01] those things come into play but really
June and July um all the finance staff
[6:06] administrator are work and department
heads are fine-tuning next year's budget
[6:12] sometimes we have to wait for numbers
and so we can't put things in um and
[6:17] really that's the overall process you
really work on the budget from when it's
[6:21] approved to when it you're um
continuously there's never a time when
[6:26] you're not necessarily working on a
budget and that not just probably the
[6:30] administrator that's our CFO that's our
finance staff that's our department
[6:34] heads I think this we do a really good
job of being um staying on top of the
[6:39] budget and staying on top of the
planning moving forward and so one of
[6:44] the common themes surrounding 2025
budget was planning um you'll hear Scott
[6:51] from our it Department talk about
planning with technology we need of the
[6:55] game and maybe spend a little bit more
to get us up to speed on spending uh
[6:59] planning with our Levy and Reserve goals
um later on this year you'll hear with
[7:04] our financial audit for 2023 where we're
coming in with our reserves you heard
[7:08] from CLA last year that we have healthy
reserves the recommended amount is three
[7:13] to five months we're sitting about eight
and a half months so we have overall
[7:17] very healthy reserves uh Implement new
technology um I've said before we
[7:22] continue to analyze FTE and that's
something that our HR department is
[7:26] continuously doing within departments if
they're needed if or not how do we look
[7:30] at that do we are we understaffed are we
overstaffed how can we collaborate with
[7:35] other departments how do we utilize
technology so this all plays a role with
[7:39] our planning department restructures
building assessments and staff
[7:43] development one thing that I think as
the as an administrator I think is truly
[7:47] important is professional development we
can't expect staff to be supervisors
[7:53] when we have not done the work to train
them and set them up for Success um to
[7:58] be a successful super supervisor without
that training and so one thing we're
[8:03] looking at for 2025 and this is kind of
a common them again in all departments
[8:08] is Staff Development and providing
professional development trainings for
[8:13] All County
Employees these are preliminary numbers
[8:19] um as of right now the proposed budget
is at 48,4 30,000 that's the gross Levy
[8:27] um this year our program our County
program Aid increased um
[8:33] overall last year we received about 3.2
million this year we receiving
[8:38] 3.3 as of right now um with these
numbers in the budget um we're sitting
[8:45] at an eight and a half percent which I
think is uh a really good area to start
[8:50] and so on today's agenda we're going to
hear from the budget planning from our
[8:54] department heads um after they're done
I'll kind of go over and re recoup
[8:59] everything go over some Levy amounts
where we're sitting at where some
[9:03] recommendations would be and I'm also
going to be looking for feedback from
[9:06] the County Board where do you want the
levy to come in at um and that will help
[9:12] guide these final this final month um
for putting in numbers and putting in a
[9:17] preliminary Levy amount um we'll go over
wages the levy history and then if
[9:22] there's any
questions um and so from here I'm going
[9:26] to hand it off to Val our County
Assessor
[9:38] morning or good afternoon good afternoon
Mr chair and Commissioners I am Valore
[9:43] County Assessor and I'm just going to go
over some basic information here I big
[9:49] part of our budget is um staff and we do
have to go through a lot of training um
[9:55] we do have um this is our first year of
true
[10:00] County this is our first year of true
County so we no longer receive the
[10:04] income payments from our billing for our
services so that was for 2024 and moving
[10:10] forward that will also remain the same
that we no longer receive any income
[10:14] from our billing but when we did take on
the 4,400 additional Parcels we did not
[10:20] um add in a full-time employee to
replace our local assessors each of my
[10:25] staff did agree to take on the extra
three 630 part Parcels amongst the seven
[10:30] staff that are doing the on the ground
work and viewing and inspecting the
[10:34] parcels um but by doing true County we
are improving our efficiency improving
[10:40] our quality of assessment and this is a
great opportunity to communicate with
[10:45] the taxpayers of these districts and you
know sell our services and so they
[10:50] understand where we're going and what
we're doing we did also have a really
[10:53] nice article that showed up in the paper
um last Friday so I don't know if you
[10:57] had an opportunity to read that also our
staff um is a huge investment for our
[11:03] office because of the um the first three
years of any staff it takes about
[11:08] $10,000 to train them to get them to the
three-year point where they're mandated
[11:12] AMA lure and then after that we have
about 50 to 60 hours of continuing
[11:17] education for each staff after that so
education is a huge piece of our budget
[11:23] and um we have had you know wages and
benefits is retention has a huge part um
[11:30] that you know as a county that we
haven't had any change in staff and that
[11:35] is a very good thing for us um other
costs in our office are obviously the
[11:39] printing costs of valuation notices that
go out that's a a fairly large expense
[11:44] and then the appraisal and tax court
costs which um that is in the budget and
[11:49] you know if it's needed we use it and
based on you know what petitions we do
[11:53] get over the year and that is about what
I have for you
[12:00] thank you um any questions and before I
before I open the floor for questions or
[12:04] comments um I think I heard you say
almost out of the out of the U get-go
[12:09] was staff is the primary expense and I'm
sure you got pencils and need equipment
[12:15] but basically staff is is the major
portion of your budget yes that's
[12:20] correct all
right any questions or coms
[12:29] and
uh go ahead well thank you Mr chair
[12:33] first off nice article in the West
Central Tribune very well done trying to
[12:37] explain a very complicated process and
that was very well done um so don't have
[12:44] your budget in front of us of course but
you're not adding any staff then no we
[12:48] just taking on all this additional on
top of this all correct you're still
[12:52] going to be able to try to do uh reviews
every uh five years all of them yes we
[12:58] have to visit
properties that's State mandated and
[13:01] then when when we get audited I have to
report what hasn't been inspected in
[13:06] that threeyear time and we actually had
three Parcels on my audit last week so
[13:11] so far so good so I I think one of the
questions that's going to be begging all
[13:16] of us is your budget go up or down or
stay the same as last year it went up
[13:22] like 360 thou going forward to the new
year it's going to stay flat from last
[13:28] year it went up I think we got for the
two County yeah what yeah and that was
[13:32] in the board pment based off each
department so that's also in your binder
[13:38] as well and also was in the board packet
and so this time we kind of want to flow
[13:43] through this the directors for doing
their presentations and so I think if
[13:49] there are any FTE that are added that'll
be talked about but overall there
[13:54] weren't
many the the reason I asked there
[13:58] weren't any is added for 2025 the reason
I asked the question is because in your
[14:03] uh early in the presentation you're
going to ask us for um our thoughts on
[14:08] is 8.5 the right number or isn't it and
so it does relate to you know the
[14:14] Departments is because we did have a
significant uh wage and benefit increase
[14:19] last year which I assume comes out of
the Department's budgets those
[14:23] increases thank you all right any other
questions for Bale well thank you very
[14:30] much thank you and I agree that that
article really helps if people read it
[14:36] uh helps them to understand the process
because I just got that recently about
[14:40] why is my evaluation so much higher than
someone else's and we have to do it one
[14:45] at a time if they read the article we
can educate them several of yes thank
[14:50] you all right up next Mark Thompson
auditor treasur
[14:59] what do you hit just return
[15:07] here
perfect good morning good
[15:11] afternoon uh trying to keep this here
short uh again our the I'm I'm speaking
[15:18] not only for the auditor office today
but also including the records and the
[15:22] license bureau
departments um our primary focus is
[15:27] service to the public and taxpayers
candyi
[15:30] County we're also responsible for the
collection and distribution of property
[15:34] taxes to cities townships and schools
and to the various funds in the
[15:40] county uh we're responsible for paying
the County's bills in a time of
[15:44] Mayor responsible for submitting an
annual financial statement to the County
[15:48] residents showing the County's fiscal
Health we oversee the county election
[15:53] processes to assure accurate election
results we provide reporting services
[15:59] for property
transactions such as deeds and mortgages
[16:04] and verifying with that we verify
correct legal descriptions on those doc
[16:10] documents we record Vital
Statistics birth and death
[16:16] records marriages military
discharges and notary
[16:22] commissions the license bureau they
provide licensing services such as
[16:27] vehicle registration and title transfer
automobile license tabs renewals renewal
[16:33] of driver's license and DNR
watercraft snowmobiles and ATV
[16:37] registration and title
[16:41] transfers primary increase in in the
auditor recorders and the license bureau
[16:49] departments is primarily um
[16:55] payroll we also continuously look at the
auditors and the records and the license
[17:00] bu staff duties and processes to find
ways to be more
[17:06] efficient budget amounts outside of
payroll are fairly consistent from year
[17:11] to
year while taking on inflationary
[17:15] results so we do have some some
increases but those are
[17:21] minimal um the budget for elections
however will with the implementation of
[17:26] newer
technology advance ments to assure
[17:30] election security we'll see costs rising
in the future in future election
[17:36] Cycles we are focused on applying for
any and all grants that come available
[17:41] to offset those Rising costs associated
with election equipment and software and
[17:47] with that are there any questions again
uh I think the the significant change in
[17:54] our budget is due to payroll we do have
increases in other areas but those are
[18:00] are
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[18:02] minimal Mr chair thank you I I
appreciate those comments because one of
[18:06] my major concern is is that the payroll
or uh salaries employees salaries are
[18:11] placed on the levy and so we know that
the levy number is really being used for
[18:17] that as much as possible so I really
appreciate feedback from all the all the
[18:21] people reporting today you know is a
primary Le uh primary salaries or not so
[18:27] thank you for sharing that
yeah anyone else I'm just looking at so
[18:33] when I when I typically look at a budget
um it by the way it would be really nice
[18:38] to have a percent increase or decrease
so a percentage one but I look for flags
[18:43] and one of the things I saw here was one
that went from 6,000 license buau from
[18:48] 6,000 to
55,000 um and so to me that's wow how
[18:54] come that such a and there's I'm sure a
good uh reason for that like your
[18:59] election year we're going to have a lot
more expense than in a non-election year
[19:02] but um which account number was that you
said license I'm looking under license
[19:07] bureau I'm looking at colored sheet we
got it's probably the synopsis of your
[19:13] you know C was well
[19:22] you
okay um I can look for it later but
[19:28] those are the things that as I look at a
summary of a budget um it's nice to see
[19:33] the percent change or and the flaged
items and so that one jumped out at me
[19:39] as a big a big change and always usually
an explanation for it but curious what
[19:45] that might be but we'll move on because
of time no I think you had K do you know
[19:50] what the what is the act
[19:55] title 42
[20:01] it just says license bureau oh the oh
the overall I see what you're talking
[20:05] about I okay I thought it was one
particular li no no just the license bu
[20:09] 6600 to 55,000 sure yeah total I see all
right thank you
[20:20] y okay Human
Resources is
[20:25] Mart good afternoon Connie Mort uh Human
Resources Director for candy oh high
[20:32] County um mine is going to be a very
short report I don't really have a lot
[20:36] of increases in my budget outside of um
the two staff members that are in my
[20:41] department myself and our HR generalists
our HR generalist has also taken on uh
[20:48] the additional responsibilities of
payroll um so she does payroll from
[20:53] start to finish at this time um she had
taken over part of it last year and now
[20:58] she has taken over the entire process so
that has run very much more smoothly uh
[21:04] without an increase in salary in my
department things I'd like to uh kind of
[21:11] highlight today for you is it's not on
my slide but so far we have had 51
[21:17] postings uh job postings in the county
to date uh that's in
[21:23] 2024 um and we also I guess again took
on payroll
[21:28] right now um I am doing my recruiting
and purchasing recruiting software
[21:34] through neogov and that is a line item
on my budget as you probably see there
[21:39] uh for 2024 it will be 15, 670 was my
current outstanding bill in 2024 excuse
[21:46] me um other ongoing expenditures for
onboarding software starting in
[21:52] 26
it's we're still looking at some options
[21:56] in that so we won't be ready to
implement onboarding software to make
[22:01] that a seamless um self-serving process
until
[22:06] 2026 so for 2025 we won't have an
expenditure for that but just for future
[22:11] planning we will have uh an expenditure
for onboarding software if we go down
[22:16] that road and that can be anywhere from
one vendor is starting out at
[22:21] $117,000 for onboarding software for a
county of our size with the amount of
[22:26] employees that we have to anywhere to
$29,000 so it depends on your vendor and
[22:32] what some of those um processes look
like and some of the other services that
[22:36] they provide but those again are still
in the planning stages and won't affect
[22:40] the 2025
budget uh the expense of going paperless
[22:44] I know that it will talk a little bit
about this too but we are looking at
[22:48] what the indexing software and where
those um records will um now be stored
[22:56] uh we would like to go paper l and that
would be including our Personnel files
[23:00] and our payroll files if you've been in
the administrative conference room you
[23:04] see all of those file cabinets in there
those are those are all paper and so
[23:09] that would be part of our process going
forward then ongoing General and
[23:13] Leadership training uh administrator
Baker kind of touched on this a little
[23:18] bit as well we are having a countywide
mandatory um harassment training program
[23:25] here on Thursday it will be over at uh
the Emergency Operations Center it is
[23:32] mandatory for all employees if the
employees cannot possibly be there
[23:37] physically there will be a recorded one
that will be um they will be required to
[23:43] view and so we will do that through our
no software as well uh the cost of that
[23:47] is just over $3,000 that's going to be
pretty representative of what any other
[23:53] trainings that we were able to get
through this provider as well and so
[23:57] we're looking at at doing doing some of
those trainings in uh
[24:01] 2025 and those are in my budget under
Professional
[24:07] Services any other questions Mr chair
thank you kind of like the last question
[24:15] I see your budget is $3,000 under and
with the salary increases and so forth
[24:21] uh how did you accomplish that there was
some is there one big item or something
[24:25] no there was there was some line items
that historically I had not used a lot
[24:30] of um and so I was able to cut some some
fees there um I did reduce profession my
[24:37] professional um Services budget by a
little bit but it was just it was maybe
[24:43] three or four line items that I was able
to historically just take down a little
[24:48] bit so I don't have a very big budget so
it's it's a it's a very small budget but
[24:54] uh over 200,000 so yes yes yeah good job
thank you thank you any other questions
[25:00] yeah any other
questions thanks Connie thank
[25:04] you I assume we're doing this in the
order of what they're in our booklets so
[25:09] attorney Shane Baker County attorney
Shane
[25:18] Baker Shane Baker candy County attorney
on this year's budget we have no staff
[25:25] increases as far as positions no special
[25:31] projects um most of our budget comes
through salary and then there's some
[25:36] others a lot of that is driven sometimes
by the case load and work we're
[25:42] doing um we had some areas go up like
Professional Services and books and
[25:47] employee travel um so my presentations
is a little unique in the senses in the
[25:54] sense that I point out volatilities that
can come up from
[25:58] year to year time to time um first it's
Technology based um from the time I've
[26:04] started in this office to now it's
really gone from paperless to a lot of
[26:08] processing by um electronic means so
that means as you know a few years ago
[26:13] we got a new case management software
system fortunately we had a grant for
[26:18] 140,000 um during Co funding for that
but that helps Drive other costs because
[26:25] now that's how the core operates
business they're going to need need a
[26:28] new have juvenile filings by E charging
so we need to get that although I think
[26:34] I can get that under this year but
that's an example of how the tech drives
[26:39] costs it can drive it because law
enforcement gathers a lot of information
[26:43] from body cams there's so much done that
way these days um legal research is
[26:50] electronic so it's not book but it's
um West
[26:56] law and we do our research
online of course they have almost like
[27:02] these large Cable packages where they
have all sorts of options
[27:07] that that's worth that's worth getting
because you just very narrow it down to
[27:11] say just Minnesota law very narrow area
it' be more
[27:16] prohibitive
so um and then evidence making evidence
[27:21] for courts you know we may have
situations where we got to remove or
[27:25] redact certain information from our
data
[27:30] so we will continue to see Tech kind of
driving how our costs operate which
[27:36] leads us into
transcription um it's a lot of stuff's
[27:41] done by Body Cam and it's not the
standard um voice activated digital or
[27:49] recording equipment that makes
transcriptions a little harder some of
[27:53] the equipment
that um some law enforcement agencies
[27:57] have used are not compatible for making
transcriptions so that cost then gets
[28:02] pushed down to us and we got to find
providers to who do that not all those
[28:07] there's some things Sheriff's Office
Still Still does and some equipment but
[28:11] that they do more than what other law
enforcement agencies we work with do and
[28:16] of course
with that driving certain cost for
[28:20] needing the transcripts for use in court
is we have a very diverse population in
[28:25] this County so that leads to to our
issue number three is translations um
[28:31] whether it's our victim Services
individuals meeting with Witnesses and
[28:35] victims on cases and we need a
translator there to provide that service
[28:41] or we need
transcripts translated both with Spanish
[28:45] and English on them to help us have the
evidence we need for court um but that
[28:50] also presents an opportunity maybe
working with human services where we can
[28:54] maybe have economies of scale where how
we go about getting
[28:59] Services provided for
translation um training that's been
[29:05] discussed already a few times but um we
certainly try to find as many lowcost
[29:12] items as we can but put on by the County
attorneys Association but there are
[29:17] other Law related subjects for example I
have two attorneys next month and I know
[29:23] Sheriff's Office is sending some people
to a mental health and crime um
[29:28] education training because we're seeing
a lot of those issues pop up over and
[29:33] over and over again in the community and
staff are need to be trained to know how
[29:38] to what's
[29:42] the new issues in the field and be up to
speed on those areas so it's not also on
[29:50] Law related subjects it's also on
leadership since
[29:53] 2016 I've been sending staff to Vision
24 de what's now the lead program there
[29:59] it's a leadership program
and so we that's about
[30:06] $1,100 per person per year but it's well
worth it because whether their
[30:12] department head or just a Frontline
attorney they there leaders in the areas
[30:18] where they're working and whether it's
in court committee meetings what have
[30:22] you you need trained
staff um and then that brings us to
[30:27] Talent
um and that's more that's more about
[30:30] turnover what I'm trying to say there
and since last year we've been operating
[30:36] an internship program we had one intern
last summer we had one in the fall and
[30:42] we had one this past summer and that's
been beneficial in two ways we were able
[30:47] to fit that in our
budget but we've had such turnover the
[30:51] whole legal profession Prosecuting
profession has seen a lot of Staffing
[30:55] changes but this helped us weather the
storm we had one attorney who left us in
[31:01] at the end of March but we had already
lined up an intern for the summer so
[31:06] that bridged us to our new person
starting just a few weeks or a week
[31:12] ago
[31:17] um and that new person who started I
should mention that's the one we had
[31:20] interning this past fall so basically
it's building a farm team of potential
[31:26] hires and and whether it's for us it
worked out that way I mean we had
[31:31] some job hostings where we one time we
had two applicants and that was after
[31:37] not getting any of the first go around
other times it's been kind of four three
[31:43] so when you have limits on the
applications you want to bring in as
[31:48] create the environment that you can get
more talent coming in and that worked
[31:53] for us this last time so
[31:58] we hope to continue that throughout the
summer because you never know when
[32:01] you'll have someone depart for something
else any questions any questions
[32:08] commissioner B yeah thank you Mr chair U
are are they paid internships our are
[32:14] yes yeah which makes sense I'm not
saying no no no no um I assume so but I
[32:19] just want to be clear on that and your
budget seems you know pretty reasonably
[32:24] priced reasonably priced that's probably
not the word I want but it seems very
[32:28] reasonable actually what was unusual
about that is I actually called Karen
[32:31] Anderson because our salary went down
okay and I was one from the 2024 PL I
[32:39] was wondering what where did that come
from because that made no sense yeah
[32:43] during the changes but there was
fluctuations during the year and then we
[32:47] had a very experienced attorney leaveing
replaced with a someone just out of law
[32:53] school one more just a followup comment
too uh interesting presentation uh
[32:58] thinking of body C cameras uh I always
just think of the sheriff's department
[33:03] about you know they have to wear them
they got them but there's all these
[33:07] other things connected with it that your
department has to go through too as well
[33:11] it's also just the volume of use these
things it's not just that they're used
[33:14] to them at all it's like everything is
on body cam then when they're speaking
[33:18] with the witnesses or offenders or
victims a lot of times that is by Body
[33:24] cam it was interesting thank you for
sharing other
[33:29] questions all right thanks ATT Baker
Community Corrections Tam ocean I saw
[33:36] you leave and then I didn't see you come
[33:42] back good afternoon I think I sent
everybody into a little panic when I
[33:45] walked out the
door um I gotta move it for there we go
[33:52] um so Community Corrections um in in
your packet in the slide talks a little
[33:57] bit about all of the things we do in our
department to address Public Safety um
[34:01] as we know um Community Corrections is
pretty critical in addressing long-term
[34:06] Public Safety we have specialized units
um and we work with you know all levels
[34:11] of supervision from the start of a
criminal justice case at a bail study
[34:16] all the way to when somebody comes out
on a life sentence review um which we've
[34:21] had many of
lately the main drivers that you would
[34:25] see in our budget at this point like
everybody else we're looking at um
[34:29] Staffing costs for a variety of
different things but some of those I
[34:33] would like to talk about is we have some
offsets right so my budget is mostly
[34:39] County funding but on the other hand I
also we have state funding because the
[34:43] state has some requirements for what
they are supposed to fund and then we
[34:47] actually have been lucky enough to be
participate in two Grant projects this
[34:51] in the next coming upcoming years that
have offset some of those costs for us
[34:55] um when we talk about State funding we
were really successful in changing some
[35:00] of our state funding last year as you
know um instead from $800,000 to1 1.4
[35:06] million around dollars that we're
getting annually from the state when we
[35:10] approach the state at looking relooking
at that that's funding that we've been
[35:14] looking at for the last 25 years because
the state wasn't following through with
[35:17] their
requirements um we were not fully
[35:21] successful and so in the upcoming Years
Years we're going to be looking again at
[35:25] going back and discussing that with the
state about according to the workload
[35:29] studies and the state mandates they are
supposed to be funding us at a higher
[35:33] level so we'll continue to look at those
options as we go forward in particular
[35:38] you can also see a little bit in the
budget um it's not as apparent right now
[35:42] but it will be over time is the
legislature has um eliminated our
[35:47] ability to charge supervision fees going
forward and so that will affect our
[35:53] budget um and so as we kind of keep
going forward and what that is and some
[35:57] of our driving costs may be affected by
that so another area we've seen an
[36:03] increase in costs is drug testing um
that's substantially increased over the
[36:08] last couple years the cost of it um and
our state funding hasn't kept up and the
[36:14] supervision fees technically may go away
that we may not be able to charge those
[36:18] back going forward um another area that
we're seeing an increase in cost which
[36:23] is one of those areas in my department
that goes up and down um last year we
[36:27] saw increase um I expect one this year
is juvenile out of home placements and
[36:32] as we look at that it's very difficult
for us to predict what types of Auto
[36:37] home placements we're going to need for
juveniles in an upcoming year so we some
[36:41] years are lower or higher this year is a
higher year hopefully maybe in the
[36:44] future it'll be lower I I have no idea
how how to know when we're going to have
[36:48] be able to put what types of placements
and that cost is going to be be from
[36:52] year to
year um I think that's pretty much you
[36:57] know upcoming training and different
things of our grant we have a grant
[37:01] right now that's going to provide um
quite a bit of funding over the next
[37:04] three years for training um in
developing programs for um
[37:09] evidence-based practices and quality
assurance so that's going to be a huge
[37:13] Focus for us going
forward any questions
[37:18] for Miss lber go ahead commissioner
Dwayne so juvenile our home placement is
[37:25] that no we um for my department so all
of our departments here in the county
[37:31] have some juvenile out of home placement
cost just here where so um Social
[37:35] Services is going to have a cost that
they have to pay for the sheriff's
[37:38] department has a cost that they have to
pay for and Community Corrections has a
[37:41] cost that we have to pay for and so the
only individuals juveniles that we are
[37:45] looking at for those aut home placement
costs are individual juveniles who are
[37:49] under some type of probation supervision
so there are criminal charges um that
[37:54] have to be placed in a setting that we
have to pay for um so in this year's
[37:59] cases the the kids that we are looking
at that we're paying for have had some
[38:04] pretty significant higher end charges
and that means that that increases my
[38:07] budget from sex offenses to um assault
charges things that we we were not able
[38:13] to um manage in the community so so the
placement is like in a facility or it's
[38:19] in a facility yes right or
example I'm sorry what for example for
[38:24] example parade Lakes youth programs
actually the kids that we've been
[38:28] dealing with right now we've actually
had to have a higher level um even to
[38:31] the point where um this year we had one
at Redwing that we had to pay for which
[38:36] is you know the juvenile prison
so other
[38:44] questions yeah just a couple questions
reference to the placement for example
[38:48] PR L youth program do get a discounted
rate so that help we do and we're very
[38:53] involved with programming and making
sure that when we place kids at Prairie
[38:56] Lakes that we have a continuation of
program so that's why um myself and
[39:00] staff work very closely um I'm a part of
the board that we work with our facility
[39:06] here in our County so that we don't have
to send them out if we have a choice and
[39:10] can work forward with them and then just
a follow question if I may um you
[39:15] mentioned the additional State funding
which is fantastic U and you're feeling
[39:19] that's sustainable then going forward
because otherwise we going to have to
[39:23] look at staff and Levy up so our state
funding right now is um it will go
[39:29] forward where there's an issue with it
is the way our funding formula works
[39:33] it's based on the legislature appoints a
dollar amount for the state and the
[39:39] state then it's divided up and right now
what our funding formula did two years
[39:44] ago is it meant that it's Equitable
funding across the state no matter what
[39:48] delivery system you have we're still
working at the state level to determine
[39:53] how that study or work we have a
workload study coming up we have a
[39:57] variety of different things to stabilize
that funding get things situated but I
[40:02] would say the funding itself is there as
populations change it could change so we
[40:09] have a set amount for Community
Corrections funding across the state and
[40:14] if um all of a sudden our population
increased on what we were supervising
[40:20] and another Count's population decreased
we may have more additional funding
[40:24] coming from the state out of that pot or
vice person so if our probation funding
[40:29] is based on the work we're doing at the
state level I think the question always
[40:34] comes up uh to commissioner Berg's point
about sustainability is like grants like
[40:39] the or Grant or something you know yeah
so we do have a couple grants and we're
[40:42] we're very conscious of the fact of
those two crants we will Monitor and
[40:47] keep going forward and hopefully those
will be okay but no the state funding is
[40:51] not a grant it's it's ongoing funding
but it does have some fluctuation based
[40:55] on case loads
very good Jo thank you very much thank
[41:03] you Emergency Management is a here are
you gonna hand um he had to be at Kanas
[41:09] so I will do my best based off his notes
um so we have on here the weather radar
[41:15] Gap uh strategic planning with the
rescue squad and then overall awareness
[41:19] with the Emergency Management Programs
and our Rescue Squad um the weather Gap
[41:24] I would say ace Bonar our interm
director has done a phenomen phal job
[41:27] with us he he sits on state committees
he's making a lot of awareness regarding
[41:33] this at legislative uh levels as well um
I'm not going to do the joke as good as
[41:39] he is um but I'm gonna I'll read it uh
so I laugh when he gave me the note
[41:45] everyone sees The Radars apparently are
like sewer plants or group homes
[41:50] everyone sees the benefit but no one
wants them in their backyard and I just
[41:54] think that is a true Ace fashion so um I
hope I did that Justice um but there
[42:00] there's a whole lot of benefit for
having this um and there shouldn't be a
[42:04] cost for the county other than his time
he has done a lot of work going to
[42:08] different counties and educating other
County boards regarding what the weather
[42:13] Gap means and not just County boards but
legislators as well um Emergency
[42:18] Management also oversees the rescue
squad we just had our 75th Anniversary
[42:23] um ace and I are personally proud of the
work and the commitment that this group
[42:27] pass uh sometimes they go underlooked
many times but the the dedication that
[42:32] these members have to our Rescue Squad
um is beyond words I mean some of them
[42:37] are third generation Rescue Squad
members which is really telling of the
[42:41] commitment and time and the dedication
that they have to overall candyi County
[42:45] so some of the work that we're going to
be doing is looking at some strategic
[42:48] planning and priorities and making sure
that everyone's on on the same page with
[42:53] how we want this department to move
forward um what are the stat staing
[42:57] levels look like what does our equipment
look like and really G uh gauge where
[43:02] all the members are coming in at and
then finally awareness is a huge part of
[43:06] Emergency Management um from tabletop
exercises to evaluating our facilities
[43:13] to educating our own employees to
educating the public um one of the
[43:18] things that is a project that we've been
working on is the school reunification
[43:22] program and then you'll um that's
something you'll hear about at our
[43:25] September 3rd board meeting a will
provide an update on that and so it not
[43:30] just awareness to be proactive but we
also have to be reactive and going
[43:35] through those exercises and creating the
awareness and the response times
[43:40] regarding the train derailment or
windstorms or tornadoes and so just
[43:44] creating awareness about that is one
thing is a goal of ours is that we want
[43:48] to improve on moving moving
forward Mr thank you Mr chair going back
[43:54] to the radar Gap uh any guest
when that might come to
[44:01] fruition I I don't I know Ace is waiting
on a few different things but like I
[44:05] said he'll provide more of an update to
the Coney board at the September 3rd
[44:09] meeting I I'm shocked that there is such
a thing but it really makes sense now
[44:13] every storm comes I'm watching and Els
said there's no storm and EL boom
[44:17] there's a storm where was that before
you know yeah so it's very much needed
[44:21] and I I appreciate them working on that
and moving trying to move forward as
[44:25] fast as as we can and fill in that Gap
and also this really comment about the
[44:29] rescue squad what a good job they're
doing and trying to meet their needs as
[44:33] much as possible thank
you so I'm having a hard time finding
[44:38] out where he is on this here it doesn't
say emergency civil defense civil
[44:42] defense okay thank you that's
right actually went down a little yeah
[44:48] I'm making I'm making a couple notes
because some things are combined and so
[44:52] if I knew what was combined it would be
helpful to all right um Environmental
[44:59] Services Mr
[45:03] gear thank you Mr chairman Gary gear
Environmental Services director here uh
[45:07] this afternoon and bringing the uh
Environmental Services budget before you
[45:13] uh and just kind of going to touch on
the main drivers and the bigger items
[45:17] for Budget
2025 and uh the lfi cell construction
[45:22] will be is the significant driver this
year uh it's going to be completed uh
[45:28] which will include development of
295,000 cubic yards of waste disposal
[45:32] capacity and revenue generation through
2029 and uh potentially further if
[45:38] permit modifications which I'll touch on
in a minute uh allow for vertical
[45:42] expansion of the MSW disposal area uh it
involves placing 15,000 cubic yards of
[45:50] clay material
liner and 3.4 Acres of geom membrane
[45:55] liner uh Le collection pump piping
granular material as the barrier on top
[46:01] of the the Geo membrane liner and then
Frost protection mssw uh that's one
[46:08] piece you don't when as soon as you
build a cell and you got the piping
[46:11] under there and you're collecting the
leate we can't have it freeze
[46:14] immediately in November so uh we're a
lot of folks don't realize that but
[46:19] we're we're moving we we're considering
the fact that we're getting close to
[46:24] capacity with our current space
available Within mssw but then as we
[46:29] develop the new cell we actually push 4
to8 ft of mssw on top of that new cell
[46:34] that we be building in 2025 and then
we're technically backing up as we
[46:39] accept new waste then because we have
space available where that just came for
[46:43] but that provides us our Frost
protection for the leech a collection
[46:45] system underneath the cell construction
so a lot of moving parts to building a
[46:51] cell and a lot of work involved in doing
that uh additionally there'll be
[46:55] ultimate development Road uh
improvements within the landfill uh
[46:58] storm water conveyances and basins um
additional litter fence uh that we built
[47:04] two years ago that's been a significant
Improvement for us along the road and we
[47:09] will capture just the the approximately
700 ft going north yet and that would
[47:14] complete that uh piece for the litter
retention uh the permit modifications
[47:20] for the landfill we do are A Primitive
fil facility through the Minnesota po
[47:24] control agency uh we will renew in 2025
which would include uh requests for
[47:30] additional vertical expansion of the
mssw disposal are area uh we're looking
[47:35] at between 20 and 30 ft of additional
height and changing our slopes from what
[47:40] has been historically 5:1 to
3:1 and what we're doing of course is
[47:45] selling space and we can create more
volume and more space extend the life of
[47:49] the landfill so uh that is our desire as
we move forward in rep permitting
[47:55] because our ultimate capacity capacity
is approved through that permit so then
[47:59] the way to gain that space is through
height and slope so that is part of the
[48:05] plan for
2025 and then in addition uh lee8
[48:10] recirculation uh we would be proposing
but I can't keep glasses on or glasses
[48:15] off
um so recirculation of the leech eight
[48:21] uh which uh historically the only option
has been well historically we have
[48:25] trucked our leate through the last
number of years we've been using our Le
[48:28] treatment facility uh that has been
operational uh throughout this whole
[48:33] year now so we're gaining some traction
and success with that uh the the idea
[48:39] with the recirculation of the lee8 and
get it permitted to be able to do that
[48:43] would be that any downtime or
occurrences when we're not able to treat
[48:48] the leech a we can recirculate it
through the cell and not have to truck
[48:52] off site so again we're uh a little
extra uh liquid in the the mssw uh in
[49:00] our eyes will Aid in compaction of the
mssw which again is what we're after
[49:04] because more we can come back more space
we can uh maintain to uh continue to uh
[49:11] add disposal within that
so uh and just then I guess I mentioned
[49:16] that no no Trucking would be the goal
with that too that's kind of been the
[49:19] behind the scenes goal but I think we've
learned through our DRP process with the
[49:24] Lee treatment system that it isn't the
Magic Bullet that there will just never
[49:28] be any Trucking there is going to be
issues in timing uh when things are
[49:32] either broke down or not functioning for
some Reas so being able to recirculate
[49:36] will be a big plus for us in our permit
to be able to uh inove compaction go
[49:42] ahead commissioner yeah thanks uh this a
SE well it's kind of part of the budget
[49:46] I suppose um with all the rain this year
that's probably been a huge issue with
[49:51] uh it it hasn't been as bad as maybe uh
past
[49:57] situations we've done I believe a little
better job of storm water management on
[50:01] the facility we used to uh went and it's
it depends on the timing of the cell as
[50:07] well see we have a lot of uh MSW in the
current cell so we have absorption so
[50:13] we're a little bit delayed there's a
delay in leei coming through it doesn't
[50:17] rain rain today and we see it tomorrow
so it there's a little bit of a bounce
[50:22] with that of knowing that exactly but
we've also done a better job of storm
[50:26] water managing
we used to have a fair amount of runoff
[50:28] into our cells that we've really worked
to not allow to happen anymore so uh we
[50:35] are you're trying to just treat leech a
and not additional water so that's kind
[50:40] of what I just had said to uh the storm
water uh conveyances and basins we can
[50:47] develop and work those as best as
possible and it helps our chances to
[50:51] keep the additional rain water and I
understand rain water right on the sale
[50:55] yes but it's pretty much just sell then
that you're yes correct okay so that's
[51:00] the big gain or the
buer Mr thank you so what I hear you
[51:05] saying the leage system is working
fairly well this year it's it has been
[51:10] operational we we still are Desiring a
higher percentage of permeate which is
[51:16] the clean water going out of it and the
concentrate which is what we also
[51:20] recirculate into our cell but we're
we're operational which has been a you
[51:26] know it's been two steps forward one
step back for a number of years of
[51:28] course but we're it's going well this
year and one other followup question any
[51:34] uh chemicals new chemicals that we have
to be aware of that you have to be aware
[51:38] of uh to test
for I would I would I would say not not
[51:44] anything new that we're uh we are and we
had implemented posos testing last year
[51:49] already too that's just kind of the the
hot uh Front Burner one that we're
[51:54] watching for but we had already already
been monitoring for that and then
[51:58] testing for a of course a laundry list
of chemicals through our sampling that
[52:02] we do and uh nothing that we are not
finding anything in our monitoring Wells
[52:09] that is coming from any cell we've
constructed so we're we're pleased with
[52:14] our reporting results good thank
you okay I'll keep trying to go here
[52:21] um oh and well I do want to add one
other piece with the Dr the DRP that
[52:26] we're under and you know we're at some
point we need to get that pulled into
[52:30] our facility permit as well um
and it's good to know that we're we're
[52:36] getting consistent production out of our
treatment system do we wish it was would
[52:42] have been working better sooner have we
invested a lot yes we have but all mssw
[52:47] landfills have just been informed that
they need to have a DRP and a way to
[52:51] treat their leech Aid within five years
so I credit the board and past
[52:57] administration and staff that uh worked
uh stuff you next out to introduce and
[53:05] try a Le treatment facility uh because
we are on the front side of a lot of of
[53:12] a path that's coming for everybody else
so at least we're I believe in a good
[53:16] position for what we have done and uh
moving
[53:20] forward jumping to equipment uh as
another budget driver for 2025 uh a new
[53:26] tra to Dozer The the current one we have
is on the 5-year program that we've been
[53:30] under for the years that I've been
around so that's this a a replacement
[53:35] but it is a significant item looking to
go to a full-on dozer instead of a
[53:40] crawler uh a crawler is kind of a hybrid
between uh payloader and and Dozer and
[53:46] the Dozer as we're phasing which the
crawler was used primarily in our
[53:50] demolition cell and that phasing out
will uh a true Dozer will be a better
[53:56] piece of equipment for landfill
operators uh primarily in the MSW cell
[54:01] and again a big plus for providing the
compaction that we're looking for
[54:07] um that's it for the landfill just a
quick highlight on Planning and Zoning
[54:12] then as well salaries are the main
driver there uh number of permits that
[54:17] we've averaged are just over 600 over
the last five years uh average fees
[54:22] we've received
357,000 uh there's been 4 new homes
[54:27] permitted this year so those are just
some of the things again salaries main
[54:31] driver uh the ssts low interest stolen
that's a septic system program it's been
[54:38] a great program over the years a lot of
money has been uh loaned at a low
[54:42] interest rate through that um and in
recent years we've got the income based
[54:47] grant program available as well uh and
that in conjunction with the glacial
[54:51] Lake Sewer District you know we're
covering a lot of properties that have
[54:56] good Waste Water treatment and
Improvement in the long term so good
[54:59] things going on there so that is all I
have for Environmental Services unless
[55:05] there was further I guess I got some
questions Midstream but if there's
[55:08] anything further I just make a couple of
comments um you know technology is
[55:14] defined as not just equipment but ideas
too and uh really have to commend you
[55:19] for I mean we the GLA Lake Sewer
District does the same thing we don't
[55:23] want storm water being treated in the
sewer district because it's expensive
[55:26] and keeping that storm water out is I
think a great uh move forward and then
[55:32] the recirculation you know instead of
hauling It Away pump it back on and give
[55:36] it a few more days buy some time as it
re or rep percolates I think that was
[55:41] also a good idea couple of big goals for
us through the new permit C thank you
[55:45] all right thank you
[55:49] all Andy you haven't had enough of us
yet look at back yeah let me hit you
[55:58] okay Andy after Andy
is I'll make your short and sweet
[56:04] gentlemen um so most of my operational
budgets I was able to have no changes
[56:11] with the acception of some of the larger
ones and those driving factors of course
[56:17] are wages and benefits um I did have to
raise utilities on three
[56:26] four of those budgets
um I wish I would have had a little
[56:32] foresight that uh when was going to
start charging us a uh fee for natural
[56:39] gas now too otherwise I would have
raised up my budget a little bit more um
[56:45] but we'll see what happens there Mr
chair can I ask excuse me where are you
[56:50] on the budget here I mean what oh not on
there what's the name of it oh I have
[56:56] all over okay yeah overall it's like 15
okay right that's why I can't
[57:04] find so there's nothing big on any of my
operational budget should be fun one uh
[57:14] fun 15 and fun
16
[57:18] um the major changes will be to fund
13 which is our abil
[57:26] fund
um so if you look at each of the numbers
[57:33] on a 2025 budget those numbers
reflect the capital Improvement plan so
[57:42] how much will be spent in each one of
those
[57:44] facilities um to go over uh next year's
Capital Improvement plan um we have uh
[57:52] the attorney's office we have the
elevator that's going to be a big line
[57:57] item I did hire an engineering firm to
write the specs for that is that not
[58:03] nothing I can
do um Library we have a proposed roof um
[58:10] the main air conditioner which is
original to the building so 25 years
[58:16] old um we have some a split unit to put
in in the
[58:21] uh the it room um some vfds for for
controlling the
[58:27] fans um County office building we have
the elevator that should be right around
[58:33] $95,000 um Public Works would be
replacing the majority of the INF floor
[58:39] heat boilers um they've come to their
end of the life um we had replaced one
[58:45] last year
ready and plan is for uh in-house staff
[58:51] to paint the facility next
year and law enforcement center um we
[58:57] have uh building water pumps and drives
um we do not have enough water pressure
[59:05] out here so we have to have supplemental
pumps to keep the water pressure up in
[59:12] the building not only for showers and
stuff but for mainly the fire system to
[59:18] keep the code
[Music]
[59:21] um they're failing we've had replaced
Parts on the 10 there now it's just dep
[59:27] part was
$7,000
[59:30] um so we got that coming down the pipe
uh maintenance garage um that's coming
[59:37] on 20 years
old um we're looking at the boilers over
[59:42] there and that's about it but you know
that comes to a price tag of $960,000
[59:51] amongst all
facilities and then you know I I'm going
[59:56] to calculate another 5% on top of that
for inflation um so that's another
[1:00:04] $48,000 so we're nearing a million
dollars for the capital Improvement plan
[1:00:08] next year and what have we been putting
away for
[1:00:12] that 1.3 so we're staying ahead of it
yes okay thank you um any questions for
[1:00:21] Andy what I'm going to suggest if I
think this is getting a little long for
[1:00:27] those of you who have reported I think
it's safe for you if you want to leave
[1:00:31] free to leave and and uh we're not going
to ask any more questions
[1:00:36] afterwards we'll get our answers another
time thank you all right thanks
[1:00:45] Andy SC
[1:00:56] afternoon try to Breeze through this a
little bit
[1:01:01] um so we've got a few priorities for
this director Scott hoveland IT
[1:01:07] director um so we got a few priorities
for this year
[1:01:11] uh as a whole we tried to stay pretty
close to where we were um at up a bit um
[1:01:19] cyber Security's been a big thing in the
last couple of years um so and as you
[1:01:24] know we've had a couple of recent events
that have thrown us a curve um we've
[1:01:29] invested a lot of money and ironically
the things we invested money on were
[1:01:34] things that had issues so sometimes you
can't win um but those uh those tools
[1:01:40] that we've implemented are um because of
Regulation from the FBI the
[1:01:46] DCA um and so we've purchased some
things that we've been really benefited
[1:01:53] from what you've given us through arpa
funds uh we're going to continue those
[1:01:58] and next year I think we'll be okay uh
be prepared for some other numbers if we
[1:02:03] don't have other grants to pay for those
incoming
[1:02:06] years um we've been working with modern
modernization of different it systems
[1:02:12] throughout the county uh number of our
departments have brought up that it has
[1:02:18] been involved with uh whether we're
looking at HR uh scanning or um bringing
[1:02:25] some of our on Prem uh applications to
the cloud uh we're looking at various
[1:02:32] things and with all of those bring
questions
[1:02:36] concerns U stress so um and money so um
there as we've seen there's there's
[1:02:44] money invested here to have it on Prem
there are some benefits to having it in
[1:02:49] the
cloud um but sometimes that cost us a
[1:02:52] little more money too do it that way um
we've done some pilot projects with
[1:02:59] candra County and several counties
throughout the state to try to be ahead
[1:03:03] of some of these
initiatives and that's been beneficial
[1:03:07] we're trying to get some group
purchasing so that we can drive down
[1:03:11] pricing that's what we did with our Sim
project that we have implemented uh
[1:03:16] without that big group we would have
paid significantly
[1:03:20] more
uh operational expenditures uh
[1:03:27] that's that's where we're kind of
getting hit um we've got licensing that
[1:03:32] unfortunately Microsoft doesn't ever
charge us less than they did the year
[1:03:36] before our backup software our you know
all kinds of stuff
[1:03:41] um that's where you know I guess as we
were looking at budgets I could not have
[1:03:47] a level budget there because of an
uncontrolled um
[1:03:51] fee we're looking at this next year to
probably move to Office 365 for the
[1:03:57] whole County uh what that looks like is
probably about
[1:04:00] $100,000 and we can take care of that
through some of our arpa funds but
[1:04:05] that's not a one-time cost that is an
ongoing cost from and I think I've
[1:04:10] talked to a few of you he said hey we
just gave you money for this well guess
[1:04:14] what here here's what once we go and put
our foot in the water um we're going to
[1:04:19] invest
that
[1:04:22] um we're always trying to keep up to
date with our our our servers our PCS
[1:04:27] you know we've got a load on a truck
right now for the county office building
[1:04:31] so we're always trying to keep our staff
working to keep our the rest of the
[1:04:35] county staff up to date so we're not uh
fighting old
[1:04:39] equipment um and then security within
that infrastructure too we've invested a
[1:04:45] lot of money there to again back to the
cyber security what do we have to do to
[1:04:50] keep candy County
function um some of the other things
[1:04:55] we've done this year and we're going to
continue to do next year we've done some
[1:04:58] Innovation with our technology uh
including as you're looking here at your
[1:05:03] uh consoles in front of you U that was
one of our big Investments through arpa
[1:05:08] dollars uh we're this next year we'll be
looking at boardrooms and things like
[1:05:12] that to make them more usable for County
staff uh and then the last would be
[1:05:17] Personnel
um as we know that's not something that
[1:05:23] with our salary changes that's been a
bigger amount um but that's what we can
[1:05:28] do we're going to look at some different
on call um benefits for our staff right
[1:05:33] now it's kind of a comp time one for one
and so we're going to look at that
[1:05:36] through this next year um again I don't
know that that'll be a big expenditure
[1:05:41] in the future but down the
line so um with this like I said we have
[1:05:48] greatly benefited from the decisions
that have been made to give the the IT
[1:05:53] department uh financial assistance
through grants
[1:05:56] uh we're going to invest those things to
do the right thing however um in coming
[1:06:03] years we're going to be asking for more
money or more or we're going to be
[1:06:07] continually looking for Grants to fund
those things sure keep looking for
[1:06:11] Grants what's that keep looking for
Grants yeah yeah well and I think that's
[1:06:15] just it I think as a county um I think
we're always looking for that right and
[1:06:20] and who is that and who's got time to do
it so um yes
[1:06:26] um so um with that like I said we're
trying to look at long-term Solutions
[1:06:31] not onetime Solutions onetime payments
and that's where we're at as far as
[1:06:38] technology for the
county any questions question cor just a
[1:06:43] comment and a question um have you seen
a lot of changes it over the years I can
[1:06:49] remember back uh when Jay helped me with
a floppy disc it's a long long way since
[1:06:55] then hasn't it been and uh you got a lot
of experience I appreciate that and
[1:06:59] you're doing a good job in that aspect
um one thing I hear from some of my
[1:07:04] meetings U is that we need a a room you
know with a good uh uh monitor you know
[1:07:12] for Zoom meetings and things like that
is there plan to set up one of the uh
[1:07:17] the meeting rooms building what we'll
start to see with as I talked about with
[1:07:20] our board um our different conference
rooms um something in so you can walk in
[1:07:25] with your laptop connect to the screen
and then you just that'd be really nice
[1:07:31] needed you know and as we see in this
building there are not enough there's
[1:07:35] not enough spaces to have big meetings
like that so but even the smaller rooms
[1:07:41] we do have we still get you know 10 15
20 people some of them so be nice to
[1:07:46] have one there thank you all right other
questions thank you Scott appreciate
[1:07:52] that I'm gonna pause for just a second
here we've got
[1:07:56] so the agenda initially said 90 minutes
for this and need just started at 11:
[1:08:01] we're approaching no start at noon
was no but start at about 11 so now
[1:08:10] we're quite a bit over is there any way
we could uh take five minutes well I'm
[1:08:15] just wondering if we could uh do the
rest of this at the next meeting I know
[1:08:19] we've already had staff waiting around
or we power through it because no we
[1:08:23] might have it another okay
I just wanted to ask all
[1:08:33] rightline good afternoon Caroline Khan
uh Health and Human Services director I
[1:08:37] know you guys have ifs reports um but
Carol puts together these really nice
[1:08:42] easy to follow would you like a copy of
those um I can pass those
[1:08:50] around a little EAS to walk
[1:08:56] oh mov
[1:09:00] over he's pred ready for me so uh today
I'd like to just talk to you a little
[1:09:05] bit about our themes for the upcoming
year and how we're really going to be
[1:09:08] focusing on optimizing our Synergy uh
we've been a health and human services
[1:09:12] department
for I believe since an Steen was our
[1:09:16] director is when we made that transition
um and we're still continuing to to way
[1:09:20] look for ways that we can leverage both
sides of our department to to really
[1:09:24] improve the work that we do um so we're
going to continue to focus on right
[1:09:28] sizing our initiatives and optimizing
our resources to streamline some of our
[1:09:32] processes and efficiencies some of those
things that you know Scott talked about
[1:09:36] in partnering with it uh we're looking
at moving forward with a tech program
[1:09:40] that allows like our text messages
instead of typing them out we can just
[1:09:44] cop click and drag uh and still meet
some of the requirements that we need
[1:09:49] but really decrease some of that staff
burden on areas such as that as well as
[1:09:54] things like we've talked about
uh with our caseworks and E signature
[1:09:57] and finding ways that we can use the
systems that we have or other systems to
[1:10:01] improve the way that we work um continue
to look at our organizational Frameworks
[1:10:07] and team designs so we've recently had
some changes within our Public Health
[1:10:11] Department under foundational Public
Health responsibilities and instead of
[1:10:14] adding staff really did an assessment of
capacity within our staff uh to see
[1:10:19] areas in which we could grow we've
identified some other areas of
[1:10:22] opportunity where we were able to ask um
our Services side what are areas that
[1:10:27] you need uh so we'll be moving forward
with looking to uh bring forward an
[1:10:31] opportunity to do jail parenting
programming and how can we work um for
[1:10:35] needs on one side and benefit from the
other and work together to accomplish
[1:10:40] some of those goals and that kind of
still rolls into like our our culture of
[1:10:44] shared services and team design and how
can Public Health and Human Services
[1:10:48] continue to to partner and and move
forward for things such as parenting
[1:10:53] education and others um and the again
continue to identify um and strategies
[1:10:59] to boost productivity for our and
satisfaction overall for our staff and
[1:11:03] our clients um with that comes some
changes as you can see if we'll I
[1:11:08] believe the public health one is on top
um Carol has done a remarkable job
[1:11:13] putting this in a nice easy format for
us so just to call out some areas in our
[1:11:18] revenues I really want to highlight that
foundational Public Health dollars uh it
[1:11:23] was really a strategy from the state to
make sure that this doesn't decrease our
[1:11:26] Levy um that's very important so you're
going to see a decrease um in candy
[1:11:31] ohigh County's Public Health request on
a levy but that's because our our team
[1:11:35] is doing such a great job and Carol's
team on the finance side is doing a
[1:11:38] great job on Revenue recapture and
providing Revenue delivered Services um
[1:11:43] so that the reason you're witnessing
that is because of this this these
[1:11:48] foundational dollars but it is a direct
result of the revenues that we are
[1:11:52] receiving for the services that we're
delivering to the community
[1:11:56] um we continue like everybody else to
look for Grants and utilize grants
[1:12:01] within the work that we do to to reach
our goals most of our um change that
[1:12:07] you'll see I know that it's probably
jumping out so I'm just going to address
[1:12:10] the elephant is that increase on our
health promotion line we've seen
[1:12:14] decreases a in availability for funding
to support areas like CTC and our Public
[1:12:19] Health has done a really good stewardly
job um and with that increase in Revenue
[1:12:24] uh we were still a ble to modify some
opportunities to still achieve those
[1:12:27] goals for like our child and teen
checkup and our other health promotion
[1:12:30] goals um and so we chose to allocate
putting in a few more dollars to
[1:12:35] maintain that consistency in our our
community impact um while still moving
[1:12:42] forward with a decrease on that Levy
request again if you move over to our
[1:12:47] Human Services side you'll see uh
modifications some of our Public's uh
[1:12:52] purchase of soil or our recoveries uh
there was a change in Parental fees uh
[1:12:57] from a legislative standpoint uh so we
are no longer able to collect those and
[1:13:02] that is where you'll see a majority of
that decrease under our recoveries line
[1:13:06] um other revenues we continue to move
forward and find ways that we can
[1:13:12] leverage the revenue opportunities that
we can get under our time study and um
[1:13:17] other areas uh Carol's team does a
really good job helping educate our
[1:13:21] staff especially with staff turnover to
make sure we're optimizing every
[1:13:24] opportunity to receive that state and
federal funding for the work that we do
[1:13:29] um and then if you move down you will
notice uh a shift in in Personnel that
[1:13:34] is our main about 64% of our budget does
go to Personnel so that is um
[1:13:40] able it's a it's a pretty hefty portion
but I think it's really stable if you
[1:13:44] look at the budget that you're looking
at from 2024 didn't yet allocate for
[1:13:49] those increases and we're having more
staff participate in our health
[1:13:52] insurance um so that's why you're
noticing that in increase there but
[1:13:56] overall I'm really impressed with the
way that candy ohigh county has been
[1:13:59] able to keep their per capita cost of of
Levy dollars spent on the Human Services
[1:14:05] delivery if you look at that uh number
our per capita cost is pretty in line
[1:14:10] from 2020 and if you look at the
Statewide per capita cost that they had
[1:14:14] a pretty significant increase so I think
it really goes to the Testament of the
[1:14:18] work that candy ohigh county has been
doing to maintain a stable Service
[1:14:22] delivery while um increased demands and
regulations and changes on the work that
[1:14:27] we do so I'd just like to highlight that
as
[1:14:32] well Mr thank you yeah per capita costs
um we're staying pretty reasonable there
[1:14:39] that's good still a lot of money per cap
when you think about Services uh but uh
[1:14:45] at least we're staying pretty much in as
we go along um I noticed also on here
[1:14:50] that the arpa funds you know they're
running out now we hired the staff with
[1:14:54] them and I'm assuming then for the
health or the for the Human Services
[1:14:58] Levy increasing by 463,000
um that's mainly Levy dollars for
[1:15:04] salaries for these positions having to
pick up the full amount for that as well
[1:15:09] and is there any new hires in this
position no going forward now we are
[1:15:15] still analyzing some needs but at this
point the budget we're putting forward
[1:15:18] doesn't have the FTE um we we'll always
find needs and desires but we still have
[1:15:22] to remain stewardly so we're going to
Contin to move forward with
[1:15:26] opportunities to see what we can do to
meet that need uh without the additional
[1:15:30] increase of Staffing at this and so the
the levy increases of mainly salaries
[1:15:34] and that we're trying to yep and then
the offset of that minor recovery
[1:15:39] reduction so that's kind of if you look
on that differential
[1:15:43] side yep
so okay thank you all right any other
[1:15:51] questions thank you I have a few
questions but I'll I'll ask
[1:15:55] at a different time because in the
interested time
[1:16:01] yeah members of the board M Public Works
director um on your screen is I've kind
[1:16:07] of done it in four four major areas this
is the
[1:16:11] proactive side of my budget the reactive
side is the maintenance side which is
[1:16:15] about three and a half million um I
didn't list that out because it's kind
[1:16:19] of what people expect this is what um we
are they they expect it to do forward
[1:16:26] thinking they kind of assume that we're
doing maintenance with that note
[1:16:31] um the other thing I don't have just for
the record is the glacial lakes will be
[1:16:36] coming up in October November that's an
Enterprise fund so that's not included
[1:16:40] in
here and I think that's oh and then so
[1:16:45] let's just start out with Capital
Equipment we have
[1:16:49] $778,000 of Capital Equipment we're
looking at and we're recommending that
[1:16:55] we split um that between Levy dollars
and buffer fund dollars we did have
[1:17:00] about 120,000 of that is eligible for
the buffer fund which would be the skid
[1:17:05] steer tra o conditioner stump grinder so
I is a as kind of a the administrator
[1:17:11] and I were thinking like if this is a
you know like a headd direction we can
[1:17:16] go this will help also the the levy
reduction because our Levy has remained
[1:17:21] the same for Public Works 4.7 and so
this would be one way that we have a
[1:17:26] revenue Source or an area that we could
use which is an eligible cost now this
[1:17:33] will leave at the end of the at the end
of 25 we'll still have a balance of
[1:17:37] about $700,000 in that so with these
purchases so you did I hear you looking
[1:17:46] for some sort of well to me it just
makes we were just we were just thinking
[1:17:51] like because it is a direct impact to
the levy it's not you don't need to make
[1:17:56] a vote but I'm just if the general
direction we we haven't done a lot of
[1:18:00] purchases with the buffer account but we
do and we can't and I guess the point I
[1:18:06] would make is that the money is there
continues to come in there's no sense in
[1:18:11] sitting on it so if we have eligible
purchases and eligible uses for that we
[1:18:16] may as well use it otherwise and granted
we have pretty good interest rates right
[1:18:20] now but money is there to use and on
that note one of the things that we were
[1:18:26] looking at buying in 2024 was the we're
buying the skider a trailer right now
[1:18:32] Austin uses just a pickup and then we
borrow one ton from public works and we
[1:18:36] would just um maybe get rid of his
pickup and go with a 250 or 3/4 so he
[1:18:41] can pull it so with that being said um
we would like there's no impact to the
[1:18:48] 24 budget but maybe to purchase that now
with the $24 it would still that was all
[1:18:55] calculated into this whole um balance of
the
[1:18:59] buffer anyway you can think about that
um but we would like to maybe proceed
[1:19:05] with that um as as administrator said
you know this is for us kind of a
[1:19:10] planning and preservation year um but I
do want to highlight four projects that
[1:19:15] we're going to be doing for safety
projects one is we're going to do the
[1:19:19] grade separation over the Burlington
Northern railroad tracks the the $9.6
[1:19:24] million grade
separation 're we're going to be doing
[1:19:28] uh 12 intersections with LED stop signs
we're going to throw in some where two
[1:19:33] of the sites will have rumble strips so
that's a big change we're going to have
[1:19:37] I believe uh 35 or so intersections with
with LED stop signs now U that because
[1:19:46] the state did an overb Buu last year um
we're going to be doing our grounding
[1:19:49] what reflective again this year through
the federal dollars and then um we do a
[1:19:55] off-road Trail project every year um and
we're doing one on Lake Avenue South and
[1:20:02] then one up from kind of the Bible Camp
Northerly on our County Road
[1:20:07] 95 uh construction is 25.2 million
that's 31 miles of Paving and overlay
[1:20:13] there is no construction in there but we
are going to be doing um some full depth
[1:20:18] Reclamation which is we have the grade
we're going to go all the way down into
[1:20:22] the gravel and then build it back up so
it's quasi the same as construction
[1:20:27] you'll have the same quality as a new
constructed Road and then the last um
[1:20:33] thing I want to point out uh maybe I'll
go back to construction some of the
[1:20:37] notable projects we're going to be doing
next year is a Tri County
[1:20:41] Road we're going to be doing the College
Road um from 5 over to
[1:20:47] 41 um we'll be doing the bridge over
here and then um 7th Street in Wilmer or
[1:20:53] Our Kind Ro 41 from the fairgrounds up
to Walmer Avenue so those are kind of
[1:20:57] like your Flagship bigger projects that
you might see if you
[1:21:08] will it would be all of our County we
would
[1:21:12] start where 10 and two split and do the
10 and two little dance there and go all
[1:21:19] the way up then go all the way
North to
[1:21:25] a mile North I think of 102 I think it's
five
[1:21:31] miles yeah yep yep and we would what
we're looking at doing is an FDR and
[1:21:36] Paving grass line to Grass
line so it would be almost it would it
[1:21:42] would be the identical same road as
eight BL and North it would be the exact
[1:21:47] that look would be what that would be up
to is it not nope NOP no you can tell we
[1:21:55] love construction um the full depth
Reclamation uh on roads used for Highway
[1:22:01] 23 detours yeah people are going to be
very happy about that is that covered in
[1:22:05] the cost of the no uh orlane project by
the state no we don't get
[1:22:12] no
um not even close like it that's just a
[1:22:17] token
of feel good what you have to do to get
[1:22:22] yeah the inter agency cooperation
we use there incidentally you know we do
[1:22:27] use trunk highways as Rd tours as well
and we don't pay them anything so um on
[1:22:33] the budget side our
Revenue um we have 12 Revenue sources
[1:22:39] that we fund this program with I listed
the top six and as far as budget goes
[1:22:45] our Levy has not changed so 4.7 million
our budget changes because our budget
[1:22:53] fluctuates with construction Revenue so
it went from a little over 30 million
[1:22:58] last year to
32.16 um with that I believe that was
[1:23:07] and that 32 includes uh the bridge y
corre so in another year it might be six
[1:23:13] million for The Interchange at New
London yep so yeah that that's why this
[1:23:19] this
budget is a little hard to when when we
[1:23:23] show it in the budget report because if
you get a big Grant if you don't get a
[1:23:28] big Grant if you it it goes up and down
quite a
[1:23:33] bit all right any other questions no
good thank
[1:23:38] you CHF little break oh I'm sorry corki
requested a three minute break and I am
[1:23:44] going to set a timer
on you used to have a little thing with
[1:23:48] s I'm gonna set well no that was a 15
minute
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we reconvene the KY County Board of
[1:28:27] Commissioners sh welcome afternoon
chairman members of the board Eric tffs
[1:28:33] from cany County
Sheriff um well here to just give you
[1:28:37] some highlights for for blow lights
however you want to look at it for
[1:28:41] 2025 um as far as the Sheriff's Office
concerned when you're looking at your
[1:28:47] document um there's three main areas of
course the county jail falls under my
[1:28:55] budget uh Dispatch Center and then
there's one listed as Sheriff then also
[1:29:01] boat and water safety and and uh snow
bill Patrol and saf so those are small
[1:29:07] little things that are just taken care
of by grants and stuff
[1:29:11] so for your reference but one of the
biggest things that will probably happen
[1:29:17] in
2025 will be the purchase of a computer
[1:29:20] AED dispatch um records management
Corrections management
[1:29:24] civil process and law enforcement mobile
software currently we're running LG
[1:29:30] which we purchased for a really really
low price a long time ago um and uh
[1:29:37] they're sort of the company is sort of
ending it so to speak through lack of
[1:29:43] support and there's a few aspects of it
that don't currently work um we did kind
[1:29:49] of scramble in 20 when I first took
office in 2023 all of the uh law
[1:29:54] enforcement agencies that were using
letg were under the assumption turned
[1:29:59] out to be false information that letg
was just going to end of life at a
[1:30:02] certain time and not support its
software which would of course
[1:30:07] essentially us uh that didn't
happen but they have really backed off
[1:30:11] on their support so a lot of agencies
are looking at different different
[1:30:16] products that are out there um some
agencies have already gone Sterns County
[1:30:20] has gone to another replacement
um called Tyler
[1:30:26] Technologies um we're looking really
hard at some of these vendors right now
[1:30:32] and we're also looking at the
possibility of maybe being a host site
[1:30:37] for the outlying uh agencies that's
around us that's what Sterns County is
[1:30:41] actually doing with Benton County and a
few other agencies up there so there
[1:30:45] might be some Senate appropriation
appropriation funding available for that
[1:30:50] type of scenario but we're still kind of
exploring that so uh the next item would
[1:30:57] be we're going to trade in if it's worth
anything we still have the old style ATV
[1:31:03] we haven't upgraded to a side by side so
um we've been kind of on our wish list
[1:31:07] so we're looking at working with some of
the local businesses on that as well um
[1:31:14] far as Staffing one thing we're going to
try to explore we haven't posted for it
[1:31:19] yet but we will be shortly uh part-time
positions in the jail that will be
[1:31:23] correct directional officers that will
be assigned to court
[1:31:26] security that is in response to more
in-person uh Court hearings so things
[1:31:31] are moving away from virtual when we
were having virtual hearings the
[1:31:36] correctional officer that was escorting
the person to their hearing wasn't
[1:31:40] technically leaving the facility so
didn't really affect Staffing levels but
[1:31:45] when they leave and go to the courthouse
that affects the Staffing levels which
[1:31:48] are based on inade population that kind
of thing so now that we're doing more in
[1:31:51] person so we're going to explore
you know the word is
[1:31:57] that maybe part-time position will be
more you know desirable for some people
[1:32:02] out there we'll see so and then also a
medical secretary to assist with the uh
[1:32:07] medical records within the jail which
were required to
[1:32:10] maintain and Cooper who's coming up on
11 years of service um and be our German
[1:32:16] Shepherd Canine will be retiring at the
end of this year so the intent then
[1:32:20] would be to purchase another uh K9 in 20
25 but for that we we still have uh um
[1:32:28] donations that we had received from from
dunck and from the wi Area Community
[1:32:31] Foundation to fund that so any questions
nice and brief question for the sh so of
[1:32:38] the it's a significant increase of
nearly 10% what portion of that maybe
[1:32:43] it's a better question for
administrative Baker what portion of
[1:32:46] that would be Levy
dollars it's all Levy isn't it well is
[1:32:51] there any do we use any of the funds to
the jail is one of our um areas where we
[1:32:57] do have um Revenue positive Revenue uh
can we offset that with that Revenue
[1:33:05] um instead of using levies Levy
dollars I would recommend that um but
[1:33:13] the sheriff's budget is in the general
fund so therefore yes it is all
[1:33:19] ly all right thank you other questions
all the yes so all the software
[1:33:26] increases of a million plus is that Levy
them too they saying that's what I mean
[1:33:30] that yeah I can explain that further so
that will come from you know we a
[1:33:35] significant portion of that can come
from our 911 fund uh because you know
[1:33:40] the cad system for instance which is a
bulk of this you know we could it's a
[1:33:46] it's a pretty comprehensive Software
System it's everything from the the
[1:33:50] mobile system that your squad cars are
running that the each office
[1:33:54] using it's the management records
management system and the jail software
[1:33:59] for intaking booking in inmates
retaining uh records of them uh it's uh
[1:34:06] so that's the corrections management the
Civil process software and then of
[1:34:09] course our records management itself
because we hate we keep all of the uh
[1:34:13] Public Safety records for the county and
but yeah so areas of that
[1:34:19] software that directly relate to the
piece that was dispatch CER Center then
[1:34:24] that can come out of the 911 fund then
of course you know other agencies that
[1:34:28] contribute will be part of that as well
because Wilmer will be on the same
[1:34:32] system as us as well more likely okay so
all these that you listed here are not
[1:34:38] weren't budgeted items last year right
no they were not so really it's more
[1:34:45] than
$460,000 or whatever
[1:34:47] 40 a lost number whatever the uh 10%
increase this is on top of that
[1:34:55] correct yes yeah what fund would that
I'm sorry I missed your question so um I
[1:35:02] lost the uh the number but roughly 10%
increase the question I asked about the
[1:35:08] levy if that all comes out of the levy
and the answer was yes but then um then
[1:35:13] there's this we'll call it a million
dollars for the mobile software uh uh up
[1:35:18] replacement 33,000 and 120,000 so
roughly $1.2 million
[1:35:24] does that also come out of Levy or where
does that come from well medical
[1:35:28] secretary position we were discussing if
that would come out of the reserves the
[1:35:32] carry over yeah boarding Sheriff from
the jail Reserve what about the 1
[1:35:37] million one to two million on mobile
software so that that's just the total
[1:35:42] proc price of the U particular software
that we're looking at right now so
[1:35:48] that's total software and implementation
and everything so like it explained it
[1:35:53] could come come from you know some of
that's going to come from existing funds
[1:35:56] within the 911 fund that we have um some
could come from other agencies um if we
[1:36:02] end up being a host agency there could
be some possibility for Senate
[1:36:06] appropriation funds as well uh because
they're they
[1:36:11] funding like using the word
consolidation but at the combining of
[1:36:15] resources so like if we have you know
surrounding counties then um participate
[1:36:20] in the same uh software as us that would
be a cost savings for everyone and then
[1:36:27] so there uh St Louis county is actually
going through that process right now and
[1:36:31] I believe they I guess my bottom line
question is that do we have everything
[1:36:36] in and I know this is a draft but is
everything in the 88.5% proposed okay so
[1:36:43] if this is part of the levy then it's
already included in that
[1:36:46] 8.5 if this would come from existing
other funding sources as well as a Le so
[1:36:53] otherwise it's it's about what 1%
increase in the levy but it's not going
[1:36:57] to be totally one the
439,000
[1:37:04] so in other words that's that's my I
just want to know where the money's
[1:37:08] gonna come from so it's I'm not saying
what you requested and what's what you
[1:37:13] got have now you need so this how it's
all going to work yeah I I know I may
[1:37:17] have misunderstood too my role here but
I'm just uh pointing out some of the
[1:37:22] highlights
good so the the the software it may not
[1:37:27] even happen in 2025 we may stick with LJ
through that year the uh um yeah and
[1:37:34] then the and the can9 and that's that's
money we already have okay and if the
[1:37:39] software happens and I think I'm
understanding it now it then it would
[1:37:42] come out of um either grants or reserves
wouldn't we wouldn't add to the general
[1:37:48] fund correct where Sheriff tson was kind
of coming in with the slide and maybe I
[1:37:52] missed it from the beginning was part of
the um the directive I gave to
[1:37:58] department heads is what's planning even
if it's not 2025 planning what's
[1:38:03] upcoming and so this Pro process might
start in 2025 but it might not be
[1:38:09] implemented till 2026 so this is not
included in the budget so that 88.5% is
[1:38:16] everything that's included in your ifs a
little bit I can I can explain more um
[1:38:22] but some of stuff on his slide like that
medical secretary I know he's been
[1:38:26] having conversations with Connie and I
regarding you know maybe that comes from
[1:38:30] the carryover dollars from our reserves
because it's a part-time position there
[1:38:36] would be no benefits let's maybe look at
this more creatively um and really this
[1:38:41] is needed because of you know our ice
contract and all of the documentation
[1:38:46] that they're needed um they need to do
right now it's it's a lot of work for
[1:38:51] correctional officers and there they are
are already worked very hard with the
[1:38:56] amount of um individuals we have in our
County jail and so and like he said the
[1:39:01] the K9 we already have those funds so
these are just kind of upcoming things
[1:39:06] that are we're looking at moving forward
as well so when he comes back maybe does
[1:39:10] request to to utilize reserves or
something on um to outdate the board on
[1:39:16] this this is you would have had a heads
up so the medical secretary will happen
[1:39:21] in 2025
we're hoping because it is needed and
[1:39:25] it's causing a lot of distress with but
it's not in the
[1:39:28] 8.5% because it wouldn't need okay I
really feel strongly yet that any salary
[1:39:35] increases or positions be put on the
levy and not come out of reserves
[1:39:38] because then next year we're have to put
on the levy in addition to the increase
[1:39:43] over that year so I'm fine if but then
we should be in the in the
[1:39:48] levy so if that's the need there for for
those positions let's do it let's put it
[1:39:53] in the levy instead Tak on
reserves so my question Mr chair would
[1:39:59] it would it be are you talking the Jil
the reserves from the jail or okay so
[1:40:04] that's that's income so it's kind of
like you know paying for that position
[1:40:11] yeah it's not coming out of general fund
reserves it's it's just coming out of
[1:40:15] what excess the jail has so the jail is
basically for the medical secretary as
[1:40:19] well but but that position excuse me Mr
chair is
[1:40:24] it may be pay for that position for that
year but you're going to have to put
[1:40:27] that on the levy sooner or later and you
have to make that up am I am I correct
[1:40:31] on on that Karen well right now the jail
is
[1:40:35] carrying um a healthy reserve it would
it would pay those salaries for quite
[1:40:41] some time well there if the ice contract
were to change in the near future that's
[1:40:47] going to
change are and I think nobody's
[1:40:52] questioning the need no just how we do
it yeah what bank we we take what fund
[1:40:57] we take it out of CU When we approve
this Levy after a while whatever percent
[1:41:03] it ends up being um is that 125 for the
secretary coming being added to that or
[1:41:10] is it out of your F and I think I heard
the answer those are really small
[1:41:13] details in the grand scheme of things 1%
is 350,000 I mean those are things that
[1:41:18] Karen and I administr but three of those
makes it gives you another percent I
[1:41:22] don't those are things Eric and I have
had conversations if we would add a
[1:41:26] correctional officer if the medical
secretary would have we needed if
[1:41:30] something were to happen with contract
those are things we have right this is
[1:41:35] just Eric's Department if you get
30,000 another department you add them
[1:41:40] all up and pretty soon you've got
another percent on the on the
[1:41:45] budget deal Eric if if that dispatching
part of it if that breaks
[1:41:54] are you like in trouble or you got some
way to keep it going I guess that's my
[1:41:59] if it's something that's going to break
and it's going to be broke then I know
[1:42:03] that's a lot of money but you need that
yeah I I know what you're saying it was
[1:42:08] kind of the fear early on um but uh know
it's it's a company that's been so the
[1:42:13] reason we got it for such a good price
many years ago is because we were one of
[1:42:16] the first people that bought into it
they were they were like a startup and
[1:42:20] they they gave us a really good deal I
think right around 250 50,000 we paid
[1:42:24] for that entire system um but you know I
as things happen as companies change
[1:42:30] hands and then you know they they sort
of you know how technology they sort of
[1:42:35] just make things become outdated
intentionally so the company that
[1:42:39] currently owns what we're using offers
another product and they they want to
[1:42:44] push you to that you know so I mean the
support is still there the company still
[1:42:47] exists it's not like they but you know
the the the scramble or the
[1:42:53] the Panic that we experienced a little
over year a little over a year ago was I
[1:42:57] think just a rumor amongst probably
these companies you know it was kind of
[1:43:01] a mess so M Mr yeah so at at my
Emergency Services Board we had we had a
[1:43:08] big conversation about this a lot of
these providers they they kind of got
[1:43:12] you because at when they first sell it
to you they go we got support but then
[1:43:17] after about five years they go yeah
we're not going to support this year
[1:43:21] anymore but we have a you on here and so
that's where they they kind of get
[1:43:26] everybody and everybody feels like what
how can we do what we do about this and
[1:43:31] there really isn't you're kind of stuck
I mean y I'm glad we didn't there were
[1:43:36] some counties that jumped onto something
really quick um and I'm glad we didn't
[1:43:40] because now we have the advantage of
being able to sit back and look at this
[1:43:45] product that we're really interested in
that is currently being put uh to work
[1:43:49] or to put to use in Sterns County and uh
to see how it goals for them and uh
[1:43:54] especially that part where where Benton
is actually is is going to be
[1:43:58] participating as a user within so Stern
already got B County on board it's it's
[1:44:04] kind of neat so I'm glad we're able to
to see that to let that them kind of
[1:44:08] Blaze the trailer so to
speak all right well thanks Sheriff
[1:44:15] right free to go all right thanks
veteran services I don't see Trish here
[1:44:20] so I assume administrator breaker is
going to handle this one
[1:44:23] TR was unable to be here so I'll just do
a a quick recap
[1:44:28] um information on the slide what we're
trying to do within the veteran services
[1:44:32] officer or veteran service office um we
did increase the pums for the advisory
[1:44:38] council members that's been talked about
and so that was added in the budget um
[1:44:43] we're planning multiple veterans events
throughout the county but those events
[1:44:47] are paid for through the grant that we
get through the state which we get that
[1:44:52] $10,000 Trish was just here to approve
that contract so that's what um pays for
[1:44:58] the majority of those outings and some
of that is in kind or um different free
[1:45:05] events and things like that throughout
the community um and then we're working
[1:45:10] with St Cloud standown and bringing food
to Veterans um who are struggling
[1:45:15] financially um or have uh personal
burdens things like that to deliver uh
[1:45:21] five to 10 boxes a week so they're
narrow down um some of those veterans
[1:45:25] that would be able to be able to have
that service one thing we're also
[1:45:29] working on is providing a timely
newsletter with the information that
[1:45:33] we're working on um and then some sort
of mass communication so we can send out
[1:45:38] a text where all veterans that sign up
receive the same information a reminder
[1:45:43] if there's an event reminder for the
advisory Council different things like
[1:45:47] that and so we are working um we're
working with Melissa actually be on a
[1:45:53] software that's been utilized in our
Emergency Management and then we'll
[1:45:56] eventually be working with Scott to see
if there's other solutions that we're
[1:45:59] able to
use so that's a wrap up for all the
[1:46:02] department heads reasoning why and I
think I said this a lot before was the
[1:46:07] reasoning why I had departments had
department head heads come and present
[1:46:11] is because this is an increase in the
levy I wanted you to hear not just from
[1:46:16] me um because of the raise uh increase
in the levy I wanted you to hear it from
[1:46:21] them that these are the needs that I
hear from them on determining whether or
[1:46:26] not it's approved or denied in the
overall budget and so one thing I I
[1:46:31] think we'll start doing this maybe every
other year not every year we need to do
[1:46:34] this presentation like I said before
some counties do it some counties don't
[1:46:39] um but I think it's really important to
hear from All County departments and for
[1:46:42] you to hear from them because that's
what I'm hearing when I present to you
[1:46:47] the final Levy so moving forward the
wages so this is something I also
[1:46:52] included at the TNT meeting as well um
so included is the full-time wages for
[1:46:57] 2025 2026 and 2027 that's just a look
ahead on what we're seeing so this does
[1:47:04] include um the steps in Cola and um this
also fluctuates um like Shane said
[1:47:13] sometimes when you have someone retire
and they're at the the top of the scale
[1:47:17] and you have you bring someone in and
there at a step one or two that makes a
[1:47:21] huge difference if somebody's coming in
taking our insurance things like that
[1:47:25] health insurance plays a role in all of
that and so um this is always a moving
[1:47:29] Target but this is the best guesstimate
that we have for 26 and 27 and to note
[1:47:35] 26 would be the end of our three-year
contracts uh and so 27 would be a new
[1:47:40] contract and I don't um I think the
staff have really appreciated the wage
[1:47:44] increase and the the relook at the the
insurance and the benefits and in
[1:47:50] conversations you know Connie and I have
already talked T won't be here um for
[1:47:55] going into 27 I don't feel that we'll
need to relook at our wage we might
[1:47:58] modify our wage scale and maybe relook
at the percentage in between steps how
[1:48:04] many people are at a step 10 and kind of
re-evaluate that but I don't for see
[1:48:09] coming to the board and asking for an
increase um I I got a question Karen do
[1:48:16] you have the 2024 numbers for for those
um but if you had the total I do not
[1:48:26] have those with me okay I could get
those though and send okay and then um
[1:48:31] this does not include I think this year
if I understand right this year I
[1:48:35] understand we still have the
uh we still have the health Reserve
[1:48:42] health health insurance Reserve but I
don't see health insurance or is that in
[1:48:47] here some 25 26
27 no so we don't have our final health
[1:48:53] insurance numbers for 25 and so that's
something that we um we receip numbers
[1:48:59] this morning I'll I'll get into that um
but if you give me one second I'll
[1:49:05] have and if you if you could do the
total that's good
[1:49:10] enough of full-time wages part-time
wages overtime wages F and P you
[1:49:15] received that in the TNT presentation
yeah do you have them in front of you
[1:49:19] okay
[1:49:31] 2024 was 36987 300 and that was all
included in the TNT presentation from 20
[1:49:40] yeah would you repeat that again
36 um for 2024 fulltime wages were 34
[1:49:47] m987
300 parttime wages we estimated at 3
[1:49:53] 96,000 OT wages we estimated at
445,000 F Pera we estimated at
[1:50:01] 5,577 300 totaling
41,46 that's the number I'm looking 41
[1:50:08] million you talk fast
41,46
[1:50:16] 1100 okay thank
you and so go there's a lot of moving
[1:50:22] parts right now um I was at my regional
meeting that we host here in Wilmer a
[1:50:28] couple weeks ago and I was asking other
counties where they're at and on the
[1:50:32] preliminary Levy and they were like oh
my gosh we're not even close yet Kelsey
[1:50:35] where are you you're really ahead of the
game and so there's a lot of moving
[1:50:39] parts from today until September 16th
now and that's where today really the
[1:50:46] budget work session how I look at this
is really the guidance and direction
[1:50:51] from you not to get in the weed that's
my job to do that work is really the
[1:50:54] guidance to when I get to the September
16th that we can approve that you can
[1:51:00] approve that Levy September 3rd I'll
provide an update to the board on where
[1:51:04] we're coming in it so we're still kind
of fine-tuning things
[1:51:10] um that's typically how this work
session should work then is um you know
[1:51:16] Gathering that information looking for
guidance from the board the next slide
[1:51:20] would be the Quasi government requests
that come into the county um you can see
[1:51:25] there's an additional column it says
requested 2025 those are all the amounts
[1:51:32] that have been
requested and the total at the bottom
[1:51:36] and then you see the last column there
is recommended
[1:51:39] 2025 these are the recommendations that
I have put
[1:51:44] in how do you reach how do you arrive at
those
[1:51:47] recommendations I base it off the levy
so however what's requested for the
[1:51:56] 2025 that's in that 8.5% Levy so when I
say that
[1:52:02] 88.5% don't take that to heart because
if you were to look at me and Nod say
[1:52:08] Kelsey go with that recommended that
amount that already lowers the
[1:52:13] levy in on the quasa
government I'm sorry I'm a little
[1:52:19] confused on that yeah you're which one
you're talking about with if you were to
[1:52:24] look at the requested 2025 yeah those
are all in the ifs budget that got us to
[1:52:30] that 8.5% ly right but if I were to put
in the recommended that already lowers
[1:52:36] that 88.5% Levy oh gotta yeah okay thank
you for the
[1:52:42] explanation but so yeah so the the the
requested is the
[1:52:48] 8.5
no you or the I'm talking about the
[1:52:54] total uh recommendation for the
levy it's not really a recommendation or
[1:53:01] where it would be at if we accepted it
today right y if we accepted the
[1:53:06] recommend your recommended instead of
the requests no the request the request
[1:53:11] yeah so I'm sayfe yeah okay and I'm okay
with that I think it's right
[1:53:18] on and so these are you know I I lowered
so like s swcd they requested that
[1:53:26] 536 536,000 I lowered that to 350,000
now this doesn't I I want to really
[1:53:33] preface this doesn't mean I don't
support the S swcd and support the water
[1:53:38] initiative this is in order if the board
at the end of this work session says
[1:53:42] Kelsey I really would like you to get in
get the levy to a six to a six seven and
[1:53:47] a half% then that is what I'm going to
look at to cut um and so that's where um
[1:53:55] some of my
recommendations there is some areas of
[1:54:00] improvement and so if we wanted to use
one-time exception funds like reserves
[1:54:05] things like that what we did with s swcd
this for 2024 we approved their request
[1:54:12] at
285,000 but then the board approved to
[1:54:16] pull $300,000 from the building fund
reserves for their new building and so
[1:54:22] are there is some wiggle room when I say
if we couldn't approve the the entire if
[1:54:28] you wouldn't want to approve the entire
requested
[1:54:32] amount Mr chair thank you so with with
the soil and water request for the
[1:54:38] 536 what is all that for
then wages that is all for wages exactly
[1:54:45] okay so this would be an ongoing request
I mean or or that it's in the it's going
[1:54:49] to be built in the levy so each year
then if we did the full
[1:54:54] amount typically their requests don't go
down but in this instance it could go
[1:55:00] down I you know that's really up to that
operating board like if you can see CCT
[1:55:05] in 2024 requested
20,500 and in 2025 they requested 20,000
[1:55:13] so it's not typical that you're going to
see a a quasi government entity go down
[1:55:18] in their request um but because of the
jump from with s swcd from 285 to 536
[1:55:26] you might see that go back down or kind
of even out a little bit but I I'm not
[1:55:30] sure on that so I because I I I may
misunderstand this but is some of the
[1:55:37] requests including uh matches local
matches fromc yeah not from the these
[1:55:43] are straight County Levy requests but I
mean are they used for match so if
[1:55:49] there's less projects in another year it
can go down yeah yeah yeah and there is
[1:55:53] a I'm just going to throw this out here
there is a way to meet that without
[1:55:59] using Levy dollars and that's those
excess dish funds that that are they
[1:56:04] qualify for water yeah so and that
account still continues to build even
[1:56:10] with the what they're taking out so we
could you know what's going to get lost
[1:56:15] the first one taken off the list is
games nor because it was the last one on
[1:56:21] so
and those are things absolutely that I
[1:56:25] can look at and we can we could utilize
the repairing $8 and um I could still
[1:56:30] keep it at the 350,000 and we could use
the the buffer dollars to offset that
[1:56:36] cost to get it up to that 5
530 no so let's say I would use Levy use
[1:56:43] County Levy dollars at that point oh yes
yes yes got it y yeah so then we would
[1:56:47] use the repairing a to like offset that
difference right I think it's that we
[1:56:51] should consider I go ahead oh I actually
I think this is a year that that we
[1:56:56] could go 8.5 I know it's a big jump but
I think we looking back historically
[1:57:01] we've done so well and this is kind of
an adjustment and yet moving forward
[1:57:05] with some um some positive things taking
place meeting the needs out there so I'm
[1:57:10] com comfortable with what you what's
there at 8.5 without digging into more
[1:57:15] and going have more questions like I
said it's going to change but I I I I
[1:57:19] see yeah and there's a couple things
though we go to the next slide for the
[1:57:23] 2025 proposed Levy that you know the
listed gross Levy that we're had that
[1:57:27] we're at that's where I'm at yeah yep
that 48 million the 2025 CPA yep County
[1:57:34] program Aid and our 2024 net Levy was
that 38 million and so that jump right
[1:57:39] now is that 10 right there and so um I
had this slide too and I think this is a
[1:57:45] really just transparent basic sixth
grade math level like telling how we get
[1:57:51] there and so after CPA we you know we
minus that off we get to that 45 million
[1:57:56] so the landfill cell construction which
Gary talked about in the heavy equipment
[1:58:01] purchase that um combined was 3.6
million and so I have taken that out of
[1:58:09] the reserves and so when we get to our
that's how we get to that 88.5% I'm not
[1:58:15] including the landfill cell construction
project within that
[1:58:20] 8.5% preliminary level it's a wash with
the reserve yes right and it's
[1:58:24] absolutely and it's a one time expense
and so that has been done in the past
[1:58:29] and so that's why we went with that
8.5 that's the proper use service
[1:58:35] right
um and so the levy history in this is I
[1:58:40] kind of have gone over this in the past
two and so we've really kept it under a
[1:58:46] 5% so I appreciate your comment Corky
regarding that 8.5%
[1:58:52] um but some next steps are um thank you
to all the staff all the department
[1:58:58] heads we I mean I think I've been
working on this budget longer than any
[1:59:01] other administrator in the state of
Minnesota I feel like um and the staff
[1:59:05] we talk about this almost at every
monthly if unless we've had to cancel a
[1:59:09] department head meeting we talk about
the
[1:59:11] budget um and so it's really the
direction from the County Board where's
[1:59:16] that sweet spot that the board is
looking for are you comfortable with
[1:59:19] that 8% because there's still some
moving Parts like I said health
[1:59:22] insurance it's a 5050 split so employer
and employee it's that 5050 split we put
[1:59:28] in for a
20% um we had uh Connie and Lisa were on
[1:59:33] a call this morning with a finalized
number or their their proposal um but I
[1:59:39] want to wait to talk with them but
that's a lot lower than that 20% so we
[1:59:43] could probably see a good 300,000 come
out of the budget right there that quasi
[1:59:50] governmental come out of the budget or
be added to it come out of the budget
[1:59:55] and so um the Quasi government if I put
in that recommended we use some of the
[1:59:59] repair need that's probably another
160,000 give or take so right there is
[2:00:04] almost a percent and a half so and then
if we were to use any of the reserves
[2:00:10] and I don't if we go with that higher
Levy we shouldn't have to use if the
[2:00:14] board is okay with going with the higher
Levy we honestly shouldn't have to use
[2:00:18] any of our reserves to for the
preliminary Lev I I guess for me I feel
[2:00:24] comfortable um going with that because
then that gets us from where we should
[2:00:29] have been for 24 moving forward going
into 25 for 26 and 27 it Le it levels
[2:00:35] out that Levy um so the reason I asked
that about the
[2:00:41] 2024 and this does not include insurance
I think last year Karen was like three4
[2:00:46] of a million dollars that we use a of
reserves to cover the health health
[2:00:50] benefits
maybe even 850,000
[2:00:54] 600 but there's all that that's a finite
147,000 there's a finite account amount
[2:01:00] there so at one point that probably has
to get added in here no I don't think we
[2:01:06] have I don't think this year we'll have
to use our no not this year but but in
[2:01:10] 2026
2027 so without the insurance in here
[2:01:15] and I'll get to my point in a minute I
did a calculation from 2024 our current
[2:01:19] year so next year just just because of
wages part-time overtime that whole
[2:01:26] package we go up
5.2% following year is 5.2% as it's
[2:01:32] proposed here the following year after
that is
[2:01:35] 6.3 so I think it's 100% reason that
we're at 8.2 because or whatever because
[2:01:42] there's other inflation involved besides
wage inflation you know the cost of fuel
[2:01:48] can go up the cost of pencils can go up
and so if just if you took the
[2:01:54] wage inflation if you will and took
General inflation you probably at that
[2:01:59] 8% and I know people are
saying I get it because we're paying
[2:02:05] more at the store for salaries and
McDonald's is paying more and so they
[2:02:10] get it when you have to raise wages and
most of our cost is wages and I
[2:02:16] absolutely and that's very typical when
it comes to any business I just have uh
[2:02:22] yeah so I you know this is a big concern
for me too you know it's hard because
[2:02:26] Farmers you know they their income is
going down when we're going to be going
[2:02:31] up but I talked to a county commissioner
I can't remember which conference it was
[2:02:35] we were at and he'd been a commissioner
for close to 30 years and he said you
[2:02:41] have to go he said your budget almost
has to follow inflation or he said you
[2:02:46] get in trouble if you don't and and and
it happens really quick he said and it's
[2:02:51] hard to dig up out of that so I don't
like that it's eight and a half but I I
[2:02:57] understand it you
know we we have to be yeah I'm saying it
[2:03:02] times I'm the only one here up for
election that is but you know but I I I
[2:03:07] get it but at the same time you know as
a you know land owner it's hard to
[2:03:13] stomach it but but I you we're stuck I
mean you have inflation and that factors
[2:03:20] into a big and if you look at our his
we've been pretty good well and and
[2:03:24] actually probably Mr CH we've been
pretty good because other counties the
[2:03:30] last couple years they've all been
almost I many were a lot higher on their
[2:03:35] Levy than we were cities yeah oh in the
cities and yes you know uh a county
[2:03:42] commissioner once told me that it's you
shouldn't always pride yourself on
[2:03:45] having a low Levy Y and sometimes that's
hard to wrap your head around that's
[2:03:50] hard to tell your
constituents um and that's hard coming
[2:03:55] into a county that's always consistently
had a low Levy and here I am disrupting
[2:04:00] every apple cart there is but I think
the work that we're doing also shows it
[2:04:06] and I think one thing I wanted to end on
when you go back to the beginning slide
[2:04:10] is the planning and I think I really
credit the staff to this work we're not
[2:04:15] only just planning what we're doing with
our roads which seems to get a lot of
[2:04:20] air time but we're also going to be
looking at strategic planning with the
[2:04:24] board what is the vision what are the
goals for the county we're planning
[2:04:28] Caroline's doing a phenomenal job
looking at our staffing and our
[2:04:32] technology and how do we better serve
our clients and our
[2:04:36] constituents um how do we better serve
with technology and that all kind of
[2:04:41] encompasses that planning and not that
we haven't done a good job and I we have
[2:04:46] done a good job but we want to continue
to do a good job with that and so I
[2:04:51] think to 20 for 2025 if we can really
dig in and get some planning done to set
[2:04:58] us up for 26 and set us up for 27 you
all will be aware of what is coming down
[2:05:04] the pipe for a budgetary request and so
I'll end it at that I think I have a
[2:05:11] good gauge on the8 and a half% the the
one comment I have that I don't know if
[2:05:16] that'll be the preliminary because we'll
I'll kind of fine-tune some numbers I'm
[2:05:20] not going to just cushion it just to
cushion it um but we'll fine tune some
[2:05:24] numbers in between now and September 3rd
at the September 3rd meeting I will
[2:05:29] provide just a short update of where
we're at um with the levy and then at
[2:05:34] that September 16th they'll come with a
resolution on the final preliminary Levy
[2:05:39] so there are some more questions well I
guess and I'm just going to be the
[2:05:43] devil's advocate here because I talked
to somebody and I won't say what county
[2:05:46] it was this weekend and they're going to
come in at 12% so my question is I know
[2:05:52] it's high but is it high enough to start
as a preliminary is it high enough I
[2:05:58] mean you have to ask the question even
though we don't want to even think about
[2:06:02] you didn't say that with all the
[2:06:06] department write that down I think
Caroline said it best when there's
[2:06:10] always she said it best there's always
needs and desires for more Staffing
[2:06:15] right right but we have to be Steward
right well and like I said I'm just I'm
[2:06:20] just saying it because it needs to be
yes I'm not saying I want to do it
[2:06:23] either but I'm just I think that's where
we're looking at the planning I will be
[2:06:27] honest in the in Department 880 I know
if it um Shane Tammy Joe some
[2:06:33] departments added training dollars
within their budget I did add dollars
[2:06:38] within the 880 which is kind of the um
depart the commissioner's budget I would
[2:06:43] call it under Professional Services I
cush I shouldn't say cushion but I added
[2:06:48] dollars in there for training not only
just training but also strategic
[2:06:52] planning if we have public committee
events um and so I don't always like to
[2:06:58] cushion the budget on that because we
have such a large budget um and I would
[2:07:04] to be honest I don't know if there's is
a lot of cushion these we've really fine
[2:07:08] tune on where we code things in line
items where we're pulling it out of
[2:07:13] who's paying for what um sort of thing
so we've really fine-tuned that and
[2:07:18] that's has been set up by that my
predecessor as well well and I don't
[2:07:22] know other than one other Western County
that is this well with you know
[2:07:27] Financial reserves so kudos to Larry for
doing that for me to come in as a new
[2:07:33] administrator that's really healthy um
to come in with really healthy reserves
[2:07:38] to work off budgets in this time Mr yeah
so going back on like Soil and Water are
[2:07:44] we going to is there consensus that we
can take out of that buffer strip money
[2:07:50] to help meet their goal so that they can
access you know funds I mean they they
[2:07:56] have a lot of projects they want to do
and there's a lot of money available if
[2:08:01] they can I think I have the consensus
now that would still all be approved at
[2:08:05] the September 16th okay when we do that
then I'll explain you'll see that in the
[2:08:10] budget I'll have this I'll um have the
budget presentation numbers in the board
[2:08:16] package all right great thank so I got a
question it's my last question um
[2:08:22] you your budget and the commissioner's
budget is down by about 8% or something
[2:08:29] like that how will that affect what
we're is that because we were going to
[2:08:34] take a pay cut I'm just kidding your
wages are up to you so we haven't added
[2:08:38] that in there get that so your W your
department will increase depending on
[2:08:43] what you do for your wages um we don't
do that until until December um but how
[2:08:49] how does how do you you know what's that
35,000 has that been over budg budgeted
[2:08:55] over the years is that why you're able
to for the Commissioners yeah and your
[2:09:01] you're down 14 you're down 14,000 too
you didn't know that wages yeah but I Mr
[2:09:08] CH my feeling is it's a budget we'll go
with it you know both of our budgets we
[2:09:15] do what we have to do if some training
comes up and we meet meet the max we'll
[2:09:19] still probably find a way to do it you
know so it's I think we're okay no I I
[2:09:25] mean I'm just
curious from 24 to 25 how it could go
[2:09:31] down in in our case 35,000 in your case
14,000 and maintain what we've been
[2:09:36] doing e either for our wages or our
because our our travel and our our all
[2:09:43] policy and all that stuff comes out of
there too right for you guys yep yep
[2:09:49] cover all or was it you're typically a
little over on your travel okay um but
[2:09:55] you're really I think I don't
have why wouldn't we increase it a
[2:09:59] little bit rather than decrease it to
make sure that so we don't go over well
[2:10:04] it it could be a one-time thing one time
year thing take reses you typically
[2:10:09] don't do
that all five always go um come out of
[2:10:14] reses if they have an idea what you want
your wages or to go up we can certainly
[2:10:22] put that in the budget well they're not
going to change much I would think not
[2:10:25] like hen County
want what I'm seeing is that but I mean
[2:10:30] if you're thinking 5% right but if we've
been using pretty much what's been
[2:10:36] budgeted for 23 to 24 to 25 wouldn't you
go just add 3% to it just like we did
[2:10:43] for the employees and call that the
number rather than you know go down 35
[2:10:50] didn't last you didn't take AE correct
that didn't make $35,000 difference for
[2:10:56] this year
right but we can put something in for 25
[2:11:03] but that W only erase that whole 35,000
what even a 3%
[2:11:10] increase yeah 3 maybe when you add p and
all that stuff to I I don't think have a
[2:11:15] budget breaker and I just think we
should leave and vote on it not I'm not
[2:11:19] supporting a we increase
[2:11:26] no budget
work thank you for your time um longer
[2:11:31] than 90 minutes but we'll get the hang
of this you know we're not going to do
[2:11:36] the department head every year but I
think um that's all I have that was okay
[2:11:41] and if we want have questions we can
probably ask you or Karen if we have
[2:11:46] a but we're
[2:11:49] not and then we will
[2:11:53] Jour holy I
[2:11:59] got is this going to be on YouTube too