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the land of the most great people. This
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was made and helped build this
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this land in its original stewards and
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seeing none we'll move right into
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Okay. So, our first presentation is a
food cycle presentation municipal food

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waste diversion program and we have
Maddie who's just joining us.

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Hello. Can you hear me? Okay.
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>> Perfect. Thank you so much. I'll just

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Okay, I believe you can see that. Okay.
So, good evening, mayor, members of

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council, and staff. Thank you for having
me. My name is Maddie from I am the uh

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programs account executive at food cycle
science and I'm here tonight to discuss

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a framework for sustainable food waste
management uh for the town of caps

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casing. So food cycle science is a proud
Canadian company and we're based in

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Ottawa Ontario. We were founded in 2011
by a team of engineers, scientists and

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food waste experts and we are just 100%
focused on food waste diversion

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solutions. And so to do that we've
created the food cyclare. Uh we provide

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our solution to the retail level. So you
can find us um in stores. We also

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partner with businesses, not for-profit
organizations, schools, and finally

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municipalities like yours, which is of
course the reason I'm here today talking

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to you. So to date, we've partnered with
more than 175 municipalities across

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Canada. We're in nine provinces and two
territories from rural uh remote and

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small communities to densely populated
cities helping them divert their food

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waste and save on waste management
costs. In Ontario, we have 110

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communities. So, it's our most populated
province of partnerships. Um and nearby

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to those municipalities that would be
closest would be um Cochran, Kirkland

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Lake, and Horn Plane.
So over the last few years, the issue

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surrounding food waste has become a
common topic of discussion for many

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reasons. Uh one of the reasons is that
when food waste is improperly disposed

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of in the landfill, it produces the
greenhouse gas methane. It produces so

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much methane that if worldwide food loss
and waste were actually a country, it

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would be the third highest greenhouse
gas emitting nation behind China and the

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US. So it's very substantial. And then
when we're talking about, you know,

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reducing our carbon footprint, really
food waste isn't something that we

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should be ignoring. It truly is the
lowhanging fruit to making an impact.

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And the solution is extremely simple and
it's right in front of us. You can buy

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less, you can use your leftovers, but
then when the time comes to dispose of

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what's left, you can do that properly.
So, how does this impact municipality

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like cap scing? Well, since food waste
makes up about half of household waste,

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it actually causes landfills to fill up
very quickly. Um, as you know, operating

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a landfill is very expensive for
municipality. And so, you do of course

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want to try and extend the lifespan for
as long as possible. Um, and then, you

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know, as mentioned, when organic waste
is put into the landfill, it produces

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methane gas. Uh and with the major focus
being put on our emissions, um reducing

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our food waste is going to be a priority
given it's a solvable challenge. We're

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seeing across Canada some provincial
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municipalities to implement source
separate organic programs and we do

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expect these pressures will just
increase. And then the community level

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food waste in the garbage means more
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or uh trips to the disposal site. It
also causes odors which is unpleasant

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for us of course but it's really
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raccoons who do love to rubbish through
our trash and obviously that can cause

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some issues. So ultimately if we remove
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eliminate all of these concerns and
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the community.
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thinking yes this is a problem but
haven't you solved it already? And sure

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there are a few solutions out there. So
there's green bins which are common in

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big cities with high population density
and the right infrastructure. However,

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these can be cost prohibitive or
operationally challenging to implement

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especially in more rural or remote
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country green bins struggle to get high
participation rates. So it means they

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aren't necessarily solving the problem.
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might backyard compost. And I'm sure
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solution. Uh but unfortunately backyard
compost composting has some issues. It's

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not um feasible for everybody depending
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year- round solution and there's still
the concern about it attracting bears

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and wildlife to your backyard. And then
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organic waste into the landfill, but as
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costly and harmful to the environment.
So with the food cyclinger, we make food

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waste easy to manage and do that right
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actually supposed to play. There we go.
Uh, so essentially, uh, the Food Cycle

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is just a kitchen appliance. It's about
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really simple to use. You put your food
waste into the machine, push the button,

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and then in a matter of hours, uh, it's
been recycled. So, it handles all types

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of food waste, including dairy, meat,
bones, and pits. It can be used anywhere

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with a plug. So, most people will keep
it in their kitchen, but you could put

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it in a basement or a heated garage if
you had one. Each cycle takes about 4 to

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8 hours to complete. So an overnight
cycle is the best time to run it. And it

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uses about 1 kilowatt hour of power,
which would cost about 10 to 15 cents

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per cycle. The resulting um end product
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resource that has many beneficial um
uses, and I'll go over that in the next

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slide.
So um as I said, it's a nutrient-rich

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byproduct that you're left with. We call
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that's been um reduced in weight and
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dry and an inert biomass, but still has
uses. So, you can add it to your garden

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soil right at home like a fertilizer.
You could add it to any type of backyard

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composting system. Um, it integrates
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You could drop it off at a compost site,
a local farm, community garden, or, you

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know, if you had a green bin, you can
add it to that. But there really are so

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many uses um for it. And um we at Food
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figure out the best way to manage it as
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So from an environmental standpoint,
when you look at the carbon footprint of

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the food cycler, the impact is really
clear. So over a 7-year period, which is

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about the lifespan, the food cycler has
a net negative carbon uh it has a carbon

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footprint. So the graph on the left
breaks down those emissions. And of

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course, there are some upfront emissions
that you encounter from manufacturing,

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energy use, and end of life disposal. Um
but these are far outweighed by the

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emissions that are avoided from food
waste just not ending up in the in the

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landfill. So it results in a net
negative carbon footprint. Um and that

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you can feel good about using this.
So in addition to the environmental

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impacts, the traditional method of
managing organic waste uh meaning a

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green bin or something similar um is a
heavily burdened system with costs at

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every step. But, you know, the food
cyclinger is a decentralized approach

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that avoids unnecessary additional costs
from um, you know, labor or greenhouse

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gas emissions from trucking an improper
food waste breakdown. Um, so the food

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waste that's created in the home can
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Now, for residents, one of the b biggest
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the experience is. So, you know,
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an ick factor. Um, it's smelly, it's
wet, it's moldy, it creates a bit of a

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mess. But because the food cycler turns
it into a dry, sterile, and odorless end

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product, the ick factor is gone. So
you're not going to have smells from

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your uh kitchen garbage can anymore. But
of course, one of the best reasons or

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the best results of using the food
cyclinger is now there's just a lot less

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garbage going to the curb. So on
average, households are putting out

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about 35 less garbage bags per year um
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And so here's a photo I wanted to share.
It's um one of our residents in Ar Prior

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um sent this to us after using the food
cyclinger for a week. So it's just that

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little bag of garbage uh she was left
with at the end of the week. So made a

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big difference in her life.
So our food cyclinger program is an

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established and proven solution for food
waste management uh with the results to

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prove it. We have participation rates
over 90% um a recommendation rate of

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about 96% and then finally on average
households are diverting about 250 kg of

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food waste per year. So to put that into
perspective if every occupied household

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in capiscasing had a food cycler we can
estimate that you would divert about 947

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metric tons of food waste from your
landfill each year which is a a big big

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number. So, our med school programs uh
it begins with a 12-week pilot phase to

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test the viability of our solution in
your community before you consider maybe

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going full communitywide. Um so, how it
works is residents would sign up to

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receive a fully subsidized food
cyclinger from you um the municipality

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and then over 12 weeks they use their
food cyclinger at home and they track

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the number of cycles that they've ran um
each week. At the end, participants keep

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their food cyclinger and keep using it.
um we get them to submit that that data

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to us along with answering a few more
brief questions so we can measure the

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program success. We then compile all of
the results into a final report or a

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study, a feasibility study um and
present that back to you um along with

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staff so that we can you know evaluate
the program and make changes and plan

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for any future expansion.
So for the initial pilot I would

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recommend about a 100 household program.
I think that would be a great place to

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start and we would ideally start with
the Eco 3 because it's flexible. So, we

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have two models. The Eco 5, I believe,
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Um, we can, you know, chat about which
model would be best, but I think for the

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purposes of this, the Eco3, um, makes
most sense to start. So, if you fully

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subsidize 100 Eco3s, that would be an
investment of about $30,000 plus

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shipping and taxes. Um, but of course
this is just a starting point. So happy

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to chat more and figure out what would
be the best for your needs and your

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budget.
So included in that program uh with the

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pricing is our team support. And so I
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You know, most programs don't fail
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of adoption. Residents are confused and
small frustrations add up quickly. So we

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don't just drop off equipment and leave.
Um, we assign a dedicated program

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manager to your community and we provide
res ready readyto use communications.

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Um, and making sure that residents just
have everything they need to get started

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from day one. Um, we also do our best to
take uh staff like the workload off of

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staff's desk because we know
implementing a program like this is a

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lot of work. So, we're handling
troubleshooting questions, warranties

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questions, um, just making sure that
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that. Uh and so yeah, I would welcome
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the fight against food waste as I think
your community would be a great fit for

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this uh the benefits of this program.
All I ask is my presentation uh be

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accepted as information and if there's
any interest in partnering with us on a

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pilot program that you refer to staff
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So thank you so much. I'll stop sharing
my screen and I'm happy to answer any

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>> Thanks Mandy for the presentation. I

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believe we received presentation on this
probably about three two three years

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ago. Um and uh I'm not sure if it was
yourself but thanks for coming back and

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not forgetting about us. Are there any
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that methane count as excess methane?
Uh if well it depends on what kind of

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system but um if they were using the
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landfill I think that wouldn't count as
a methane excess methane but

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» that's not detrimental that methane is
not detrimental to the entire it's being

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burned and used for energy.
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a gas capture. Yeah.
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» Thank you very much for the uh for the
presentation. Um just just a couple

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questions. One financial but also one uh
more technical about the logistics of

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the use of the uh of the device. Um one
of the other I backyard compost and do

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it year round even cap spacing and and
uh find a way to make it work. But one

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of the I think the primary frustration I
have is when you do not have access to

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the compost for many many many years.
What is the turnaround time to generate

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usable compost with this particular
device?

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» Yeah. Oh, that's a great question. I
wish I had a number off the top of my

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head, but I it I don't I think it's I
have the answer in um a soil amendment

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guide. So, we've created a resource that
we can use, but it does turn around

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quicker because you're shrinking the
size of the food waste. So, it's just

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really small particles. Um, it does help
your backyard composter get up to speed

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faster and then turn around quicker. So,
yeah, you're not going to be waiting

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months. It would be like years. It would
be like uh maybe 3 months, but I can

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actually get you the numbers and I'll
send you that guide as well so you can

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look at it.
>> Okay, perfect. Thank you. Um the other

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the other question I had was you you
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capacics specifically if everyone in
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the food waste from the landfill be
about let's say thousand tons to make it

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uh simple. Um, do you have supporting
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model uh, modeled information that can
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terms of
>> um, the the saved uh, capital cost in

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terms of deferring the need to expand or
build a new uh, landfill to support

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staff to uh, to uh, do an analysis to
show the the benefit on a life cycle

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basis of such an advice.
>> Yes. Yeah, we do. That's a great

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question and so I'm happy to work with
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calculator using um it wasn't created by
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environmental consultant um called
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calculator um so that we can you know
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and then figure out what you know that's
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of um for a landfill. So happy to do
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» Perfect. Thank you.
>> All right. Any other questions? Bruce,

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» happy to date any restaurant. Yeah,
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» So, the units that we that I was talking
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restaurants. Um, but we are in the
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would be applicable for restaurants. So,
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» What about grocery stores also?
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little bit too small for grocery stores.
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grocery store, but um we currently don't
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» Okay. Thank you very much.
>> Thank you.

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» Any other questions?
>> All right. Well, thanks very much,

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Maddie, for your presentation and uh
we'll take it in for information. We'll

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get back to you if there's interest.
>> Thank you so much for having me. Hope

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you have a great rest of your meeting.
>> You as well.

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All right. Now we have a presentation
from East Link. Um, and we have a Amanda

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in the audience. So for yours, Amanda,
>> evening

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for the opportunity for being able to
present in front of all of you this

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evening. So East Lake is very excited uh
that we have launched mobile services

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here in Spacing. Uh, it's a long time
coming. So uh, we are very excited about

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this upcoming launch. So, we're going to
go through a few things uh with this

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launch and what this means for our
customers here in the community.

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So, we're going to go through what is
the East Link mobile network, uh what

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our launch plans look like, and how we
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So, East Link is a mobile network. It's
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that this works with MBNO, which is a
footage term that you'll hear me uh

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using throughout this, is a mobile
virtual network is where we purchase the

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ability to essentially resell services
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that are available from Telos. So
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virtual network operator in this case
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we can operate without building our own
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that is brought in from the mobile
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our own towers in the community as well.
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investment into the community. That's
how the program works. And the design

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behind this and the reasoning behind MDO
in the first place and why the

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government has allowed this to happen
through CRTC is that it allows more

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competition within the community, which
means consumers get a better price. So

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it helps drive down price on your
telecommunication services which is what

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the government and CRTC is looking for
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this works as well uh we can actually go
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So we are launching uh it was
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end of June. We actually launched on
Tuesday July 7th. So mobile is now

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available here in the community. Uh, I
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week and we will be able to answer
questions for any of our customers here

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in town. Not even only on the mobile
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from the mobile standpoint, but we've
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community. Max speed used to be 350
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service in cap. So, that's very exciting
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were going to launch in June. We would
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kind of lines up with a a big week in
July. So uh we've also done um obviously

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this presentation we're here in the
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all. And we have also agreed to do a
sponsorship for Catholics this coming

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weekend which is obviously a fun and
exciting initiative here in the

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community. We've done the event before
and it was a lot of fun to get to talk

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to some of our customers
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anticipating that we would be here on a
quarterly basis set up so that people

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have a place that they can actually come
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about services, about mobile services.
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with these MBN launches. So we've now
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showing up. So cap phrase, the the idea

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behind how we do this is always that we
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It's not a, you know, come into town, we
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not come back again. The idea is to
maintain that momentum and continue

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being present in the community. We have
representatives that work in this

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community uh and that are proud to
represent the Eastland brand. So that

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will continue.
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word being able to in front of all of
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of uh local media. So whether that's
paid advertising through Facebook uh and

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through Meta, those are things that we
do in order to be able to get the word

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out that mobile services are launching.
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received an email as well from our
marketing team indicating uh that mobile

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services are launching. It allows them
to be able to bundle their services

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which actually lowers their bill. So
it's an exciting opportunity for

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customers here. Now our team as well
will be present. So, I'll be here as

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well as one of our uh representatives
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questions that come up from consumers.
Other than that, that is pretty much it

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in a nutshell. We just wanted to be able
to represent the company and be able to

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proudly announce that his mobile
services are now available in caps.

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» Well, thank you very much, Amanda, and
welcome to our community, and again,

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thank you for the sponsorship, Capra.
Much appreciated. Are there any

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questions uh for anybody? Go ahead. Um,
thank you for the presentation. I was

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just curious, so other than coming this
week to the mall, do you guys plan on

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having a physical office here on the
mall? So, at the moment, no. But that

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doesn't mean that things will change.
So, as basically the company continues

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to grow and we continue to be able to
offer more products that are available

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to consumers, the the writing is on the
wall of expansion continuing without

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with the company. So over time, yes, I
can see that potentially happening down

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the road. As of right now, our plan is
to continue to come on a quarterly basis

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from a sales perspective, but also be
able to answer any questions at any

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time. Uh I've had communication with
some members of uh the team here at the

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city or at the town and I've been able
to have great discussions with them. So

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now it just opens up further
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» Okay. Thank you. Thank you.
Thanks very much for the presentation

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and just a question about the cost model
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pursuing as compared to some of the
other providers. Is it the is the

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attempt to uh and maybe it's contained
by the infrastructure you you lease or

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or or purchase on? Will you be uh in the
the same vein as a as a Bell or a Telus

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in terms of um higher price point uh
products and plans or is the intent to

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be a discount service um you know like
the uh like a smaller niche provider? I

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think FHO might be an example of of
something where you can offer people who

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don't have the demand for uh unlimited
features who want something uh smaller

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and more affordable.
>> What's absolutely so great question uh

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the idea is always that we are going to
lead the market. So we want to make sure

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that uh the price point that we're
coming to the table at is very

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competitive. part of FBNO the process
with FNO is that it drives down actually

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that price amongst competitors as well
because when we're able to come in and

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sell that product uh the same product
that other teleos are are selling for a

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reduced price point that helps bring
down that cost overall. So, as an

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example, when we launch MBNO, the plans
that are available can start as low as

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20 gigs of data and then they can go up
as high as uh 60 to 80 gigs. And in

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those plans, they're all rollover data
as well. So, consumers are able anything

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that's unused will roll over to the
following month and continue to build

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for them as well. So, uh the plans are
very competitive. Plans range in about

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the $50 mark for a full service plan.
Uh, and then there's also savings that

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are available. If you are an existing
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WLAN services as well. There's a $10
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» Thank you.
>> Welcome.

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» Thank you very much for your
presentation.

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» Thank you very much.

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» All right. Uh, moving right to start
with the finance announcer Dennis.

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» Yeah. The first item is a request to
fers the insurance recommendation by

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council approve addition of serial
security insurance coverage coalition

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obtained through the council broker
broker link at an individual criminal

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cost of $10,31
purpose of this report recommend that

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cashing add cyber security insurance
coverage to existing program and qualify

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financial protection start related to
incidents and technology based business.

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Um are there any questions or comments
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had it but then um yeah what what's the
deductible and coverage on on this?

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I don't remember the deductible any
we received it just

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» I thought the same thing as you so when
cars

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» there's there's minimal coverage right
now but let's say you had an incident

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that you know 10,000
Your insurance premium is not a lot if

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you ever get a cyber attack.
>> I've been through it with another

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corporation. Although that's that's
cheap because it costs a lot more

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» pay the rent.
>> But from with your experience, you

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figure this is a good deal.
>> Absolutely.

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» Well, the aggregate cost. So the land is
2 million.

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» It's what million is there? 2 million
and up. That's uh I know I've heard

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there are some companies that have had
to go and pay Bitcoin and all that just

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2 million is not a lot. When you're
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and see if a little bit additional maybe
a little bit additional would cost that

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much more
>> maybe like the $5 million coverage.

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What's our what would be like how do you
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is it in terms of
>> in terms of what the the risk is

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» I think once we do uh purchase the uh
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and and actual
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I'm lost words here scenarios where they
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any weaknesses that could be prone to
cyber attacks. Uh, and they will

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continue testing on a regular basis. Uh,
>> and they'll send you information. Don't

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» That's right. So, they do a full
analysis they did and and they check

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everything from pay to receiving
uh electronic uh transfers to just our

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emails, anything that's technology
based. So, we have a large

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infrastructure of technology. So I think
this is the right step to go to and and

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it will be tested. Our fire will
probably be tested on a regular basis at

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the same time which we already do but
the the insurance provider will do that.

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The the other thing that would be
perhaps just like any other insurance is

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to understand how much effort that goes
into prevention uh could reduce premiums

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or reduce the obligation to pay
deductibliedness by having certain

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policies in place certain protections in
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» Exactly. Uh so understanding how much
flexibility there is to um to control uh

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how how much we we you have to pay for
such a a protection is would be good to

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understand as well. uh Northern Ontario
wires is going through this uh this

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effort there's a I mean it's regulated
where uh small utilities because of the

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exposure these attacks affecting um the
electrical distribution network are

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putting in a lot of effort to uh to uh
to to minimize any any such uh event

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from preventing electricity that's why I
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» from our standpoint what is the impact
of shutting down wastewater treatment or

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shutting the drinking water system as a
result of an attack. I suspect it's like

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the impact could be in the millions. So,
it's

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» probably pretty important to
>> I think that my recommendation would be

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start with this
insurance premium now and do the risk

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management the testing to see if we do
have some vulner vulnerabilities

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anywhere. So then after that we can
tailor the the coverage that we need.

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Any idea what the cost would be to cover
those vulnerabilities to correct them?

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There's probably some cost involved with
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» Yeah, I don't have an idea.
>> Not much. May not only be the premium,

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but they come in and say, "Well, you got
to do this, do that,

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» can make it easily add another $20,000,
but I don't."

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» Yeah. So, we won't know until we do the
>> assessment, they exercise on the

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assessment to know what our risks are.
>> I know the hospital went through this.

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Uh
>> that's what

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» yeah about 3 4 years ago maybe maybe
>> it was pretty uh intense really tough.

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» I bet you they'd love to have paid that
>> our insurance did uh come up with uh bit

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of the money which was good. Out of
pocket I believe was uh the hospital was

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almost $2 million
>> and the rest was covered. It was all

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through bitcoin. It was all rushing out.
So

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00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:40,000
» they had some of the personal
information from uh some people. So this

412
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:45,040
will make the recommendation we go ahead
with that. Um second item is for

413
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:49,440
information correspondence from ministry
of municipal affairs housing changes to

414
00:35:47,359 --> 00:35:52,800
strong mayor framework recommendation
that council received the correspondence

415
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:57,680
from ministry of municipal affairs and
rehousing regarding some changes to the

416
00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:04,480
strong mayor framework as as
information. the town

417
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:07,720
correspondent waited June 23rd 26 from
the honorable

418
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:17,040
» uh black uh minister of minister affairs
and housing regarding some changes to

419
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:22,000
the strong framework that is that
regulatory amendments have been made to

420
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:28,800
the building regulation 53rd/22 under
the municipal act 2011 these amendments

421
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:34,880
come to force June 22nd 2046 six and
apply to Trump mayor Mis. Any questions

422
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:38,480
or comments on that?
>> Not related to this one. I did have one

423
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:44,560
more I just remembered I wanted to ask
about the previous item. Uh and it was

424
00:36:41,359 --> 00:36:50,480
just whether the the insurance cost was
going to be a 20 26 budget line item or

425
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:53,839
uh for future
>> 2026.

426
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:57,520
» It will be a 206 add.
>> Yeah.

427
00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:00,720
» Our premium starts out with July 1st.
>> Okay. So you have half of the year and

428
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:10,359
half the others to really
>> So it's only it's only a $5,000 increase

429
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:10,359
add-on for 2020. Okay. Thank you.

430
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:17,599
Report. There's no other questions.
>> All right. Plate services council

431
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:22,720
Newton.
>> I have one for tonight. Mr. Mayor for

432
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:27,680
information letter from Minister
Ministry of Municipal Affairs and

433
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:31,920
Housing Amendments Parkland dedication
regulation

434
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:36,800
recommendation. The council received the
correspondence from the Ministry

435
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:42,160
of Municipal Affairs and Housing
regarding amendments to Ontario

436
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:46,960
regulation 509/20
community benefits charges and apartment

437
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:51,920
land as information
and John would you want to put that face

438
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:57,200
on this one?
>> Yeah. Um basically the government it's

439
00:37:54,880 --> 00:38:01,200
one of their many amenities to the plan
that help streamline development housing

440
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:05,760
development uh basically created in
Frank allows developers uh the

441
00:38:03,839 --> 00:38:12,640
opportunity to propose lands that be
dedicated to for parkland versus

442
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:16,640
municipal planning um professionals that
would kind of dictate where they're

443
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:23,359
giving you more of an opportunity to
developers to

444
00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:28,560
recommend something that may not be as
suitable for um development but such as

445
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:31,920
easements or
restrictions. Uh maybe you could

446
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:37,760
dedicate that instead of using clients
plan. You also have to have uh an

447
00:38:35,359 --> 00:38:46,839
opportunity for a kill process that land
tribunal and you also um if it's right

448
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,839
uh there's some u

449
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:52,680
notice noticing and um

450
00:38:53,520 --> 00:39:00,400
sorry
to the case

451
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:05,440
required to do that now. So we'll have
to review our official plans in the

452
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:09,520
process of being uh
uh the draft. So we'll have to make sure

453
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:14,160
that any provisions that are in the
official plan would likely change the

454
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:21,960
plan or dedication part. We'll have to
review the extend process procedures and

455
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,960
also our site control make sure that

456
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:32,560
identification is uh reflected and also
um

457
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:36,720
sorry I lost I guess my apologies the
heat the heat

458
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:41,839
and also we don't actually have a
frontline meditation bylaw so we have

459
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:47,839
policies and provisions within our plan
of the new filing capac doesn't actually

460
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:52,880
have that dialogue aligning to how our
clients think you. So in the event that

461
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:57,119
we do um decide to move forward with
this because we have a PL sub division

462
00:39:54,880 --> 00:40:04,040
that's establishing itself and we want
to designate X amount of land for a park

463
00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:04,040
we have to come up with a

464
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,880
question

465
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:14,880
any questions on this
be it for myself.

466
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:21,040
» All right thanks C Newton protective
service and emergency management counc

467
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:24,720
» thank you Mr. May there um four items on
the agenda

468
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:32,000
for the committee. The the first is a
for information item is the fire

469
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:36,960
department left a report for June. Um
trusting u everyone had a chance to read

470
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:41,200
it. Highlights are just that there were
15 calls in in June including a

471
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:49,040
structural fire and a scrapard fire that
destroyed 23 vehicles and 84 calls here

472
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:55,040
to date. And uh the NFPA um course for
pump operator training is uh 85%

473
00:40:52,560 --> 00:41:00,960
complete. Uh was there highlights uh
from my perspective? Not that they

474
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:07,839
built.
>> No, you you were you were right. Uh

475
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:13,680
yeah, we we did respond to two major
incident. Uh like you read uh we did

476
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:21,280
respond to a scrapyard fire that
destroyed 23 cars. Uh it was out of town

477
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:25,920
but because we signed an agreement few
months ago with the province uh this

478
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:34,319
fire we're going to be able to recoup
the cost of this fire. Okay. Um

479
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:38,560
and I'm pretty happy that uh most of the
staff did complete their pump operator

480
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:43,920
course. Everyone that was registered to
the course took the did complete the

481
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:48,720
course and the testing we had issue with
the testing with the scheduling the

482
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:52,800
testing and the testing will be done in
August. We just received I think it's

483
00:41:50,800 --> 00:42:00,000
last week the confirmation from the
province

484
00:41:54,880 --> 00:42:05,920
that to be honest uh June was a month
>> question on the covering for the the

485
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:13,040
fire outside the town. You said we will
be reimbursed at what rate of pay?

486
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:15,359
» Uh almost $600 per hour
>> 200

487
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:21,319
» six
>> 600 $600

488
00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:21,319
» per truck

489
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:28,319
and what's that?
>> Say uh it's the office of fire marshall

490
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:30,480
that's going to reimburse us.
>> Okay.

491
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:34,240
» Yeah.
>> Is that

492
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:40,160
enough?
it to be honest because of the cost the

493
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:48,280
because of the capital cost of our
pumper uh it will never be enough man

494
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:48,280
it's it's a starting point

495
00:42:49,359 --> 00:42:56,680
» so to top of my head uh for this fire
top of my head

496
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:02,119
I think we're going to be able to recoup
around $8,000

497
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:21,119
Thank you very much.
>> Perfect.

498
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:29,040
» Any other questions or the report?
>> All right. Uh next item on the agenda is

499
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:34,000
um just to report on levels of service
for interventions outside of casing

500
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:38,800
limits.
Um this is for council discussion and

501
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:43,839
consideration. Uh there are two
recommendations.

502
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:47,200
Recommendation number one recommended
that municipal council give

503
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:51,119
consideration to continue to allow the
CAP fire department to respond outside

504
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:56,480
municipal boundaries of the town of CAP
in accordance with its operational

505
00:43:53,359 --> 00:43:59,839
procedure ops 34 out of town boundaries
response that was developed by the fire

506
00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:04,000
department.
And the recommendation number two is

507
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:09,440
recommended that council enter into a
mutual aid and automatic aid agreements

508
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:13,920
with the following municipalities.
Township of Valita Hardy, Township of

509
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:18,880
Obisatica, Township of Bloom Beam,
Township of Folk Strickland, Township of

510
00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:25,920
Rock Falls, Town of Hurst, Town of
Coffin, Township of Matis Balote.

511
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:30,400
Um, automatic aid agreements would allow
a town of Cap to continue providing

512
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:34,800
expectation services within the
municipality of the town of Tohovatica

513
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:39,839
and the municipality of the township of
Belita Cardi.

514
00:44:37,359 --> 00:44:43,680
And recommendation number three, it is
recommended that council make the

515
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:47,760
necessary representations to the
government of Ontario to obtain support

516
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:52,560
for the indirect costs incurred by the
town of Cath for interventions outside

517
00:44:49,839 --> 00:44:59,480
its territorial bound boundaries, excuse
me, as outlined in the attached report.

518
00:45:03,359 --> 00:45:12,480
question. Um the automatic agreements
will allow town cap to continue

519
00:45:09,359 --> 00:45:19,119
providing extra services within the news
township of San Township.

520
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:24,079
Why only those two
>> because the has its own and so does

521
00:45:22,319 --> 00:45:28,319
» okay
>> it's exactly that.

522
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:31,319
» Okay.
Um

523
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:36,359
» can I can I add one thing to this?

524
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:44,720
actually these two municipality doesn't
have any extrication tools and I don't

525
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:51,280
know since when but for years and years
we do respond uh on these two

526
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:57,280
municipalities uh for extrication
and it's just to um

527
00:45:54,960 --> 00:46:04,079
signing automatic automatic aid
agreement it's it's just to uh make sure

528
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:09,599
that we have the proper uh agreement in
place because extrication it's a

529
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:16,079
municipal responsibility. It's not a
provincial responsibility. Currently we

530
00:46:12,319 --> 00:46:21,119
do that as good corporate citizen, good
neighbor. Uh but it's a local

531
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:27,040
municipality responsibility. So if we
sign a automatic agreement with them,

532
00:46:23,839 --> 00:46:30,880
that's mean when they when an
election happen in these two

533
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:38,640
municipalities, we're going to get
called. We're going to respond as we do

534
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:44,560
today, but uh the local township will
claim the province and we will be able

535
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:49,119
to recoup this amount.
Okay. And yeah, this is one of the

536
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:53,920
reason
>> but but the town the municipality will

537
00:46:51,200 --> 00:47:00,000
only reimburse reimburse us the amount
that the provinces province allows.

538
00:46:56,720 --> 00:47:07,119
» Exactly. What if what if those costs are
a lot higher? Uh I see you go there and

539
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:11,680
there's an employee suffers and it's on
weekly redundancy for years and years

540
00:47:09,359 --> 00:47:15,079
and years. Who picks up that bill?
>> It's the

541
00:47:17,839 --> 00:47:27,079
the other cost that the town of CA could
get over the years.

542
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:34,880
If it's that it's my recommendation
number three, uh because the amount of

543
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:40,480
the province that's going to pay the
local township and the local township

544
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:46,960
will reimburse us will to be honest, it
will never be enough. So recommendation

545
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:52,560
number three, we have to do proper uh
the proper we have to do representation

546
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:57,040
the province to uh
increase the cost uh the amount that

547
00:47:54,720 --> 00:48:04,359
they would pay
or it's something that we we could stop

548
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,359
doing it.

549
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:14,560
» All right, please. Um, but don't you
think the the leverage we have here is

550
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:20,640
in is in the in stopping doing it? I
mean, if if our fear is that our own

551
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:25,359
members are, you know, could could could
be dangerously affected by an

552
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:30,319
extrication in a neighboring community,
our leverage to the province is, you

553
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:35,680
know, there we can't do it for 600
bucks. That's not and so we're going to

554
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:40,240
stop doing it. And in the stopping doing
it, maybe places like Oakadic and

555
00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:44,880
Valerita can maybe get a grant to
purchase their own extrication equipment

556
00:48:41,839 --> 00:48:50,319
and then maybe have uh those services
within their own community and we're not

557
00:48:46,319 --> 00:48:54,640
necessarily affected by by the
extrication of of people out of a

558
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:58,960
vehicle and that we we experience more
and more going forward. So I think I

559
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:03,839
think honestly the solution to it would
be to pull out of it to say, "Hey, we're

560
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:08,000
going to operate these services within
our own community because that's what we

561
00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:13,920
pay for. Those are the services we
provide to our own community and um if

562
00:49:12,319 --> 00:49:17,920
if something does happen within our
community, then we know what we're we're

563
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:23,200
up against. But, you know, if we're
responding to motor vehicle uh accidents

564
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:28,400
along the highway everywhere and it's
increasing at uh dramatic pace until

565
00:49:26,559 --> 00:49:30,800
there is plenty of highway 11, I don't
know what you know what it's going to

566
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:37,200
look like in the future, but certainly
wouldn't that be the the ideal situation

567
00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:43,880
we want to reflect to the government.
I just

568
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:43,880
» uh the only thing I can say

569
00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:50,119
deep

570
00:49:54,640 --> 00:50:02,960
because they were responding in Ed Clara
and Mariam and Spalty between Mawa and

571
00:50:00,559 --> 00:50:10,960
Deep River and did it stop and the
province did nothing about that nothing.

572
00:50:07,359 --> 00:50:17,599
So if you're driving now between Madawa
and Deep River

573
00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:22,640
east of Biset Creek to Deep River,
uh now it's fixed because Ranchil took

574
00:50:19,839 --> 00:50:28,640
over but for probably two three years
it's probably more h it has no

575
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:34,680
extrication services and the province
didn't do anything because that was a

576
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,680
mun responsibility.

577
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:44,160
It's a topic that
>> I find the liability I find the

578
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:48,079
liability for the blue spelling is risk
is too high. It could be very very

579
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:52,160
expensive. It may never happen. There is
a certain amount of of risk there. The

580
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:57,760
other thing is what do we do with the
other villages the other towns the ones

581
00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:01,319
that we do have in
no there's

582
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:12,720
» okay the other town. Okay. So
recommendation number two has two topics

583
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:17,839
okay one it's for edificucation for
valarity and foracetica

584
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:24,640
okay this is for education but the other
topic too is about automatic aid for

585
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:29,280
water shuttle okay
outside of

586
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:35,040
the the area protected by hydrants and
also it's to conclude mutual agreement

587
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:39,599
which we don't have uh with any
municipality

588
00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:46,960
when we need more resources on scene for
working fire, structural fire. Okay. Uh

589
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:53,040
down south uh to be honest, most of the
municipality they have both type of

590
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:58,000
agreements in order to subsidize
uh the additional resources when it's

591
00:51:55,839 --> 00:52:04,960
needed.
I I will give you just a quick example.

592
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:13,920
Okay, for a house fire in meal 20
regular bungaloo, okay, when it's fully

593
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:20,079
involved, okay, we need an average 400
gallon of water per minute. Okay, our

594
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:28,640
tanker truck, we have one tanker, can
shuttle between 80 to 110 gallon per

595
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:34,079
minute. So we're we need more water each
time we have a working fire outside of

596
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:39,440
the uh the area protected by
addressance. Okay, it's why we need

597
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:44,119
automatic agreement for water shuttle
and mutual aid agreement for staffing.

598
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:51,480
So recommendation number two has two
different meanings here.

599
00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:59,040
Oops.
>> Number two, uh, if you're starting to

600
00:52:56,720 --> 00:53:03,520
travel down the burst and conquer,
that's long distances,

601
00:53:01,359 --> 00:53:08,480
very long distance. I've traveled them
35 years, seen a lot of accidents along

602
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:15,599
the highways. Now you're really opening
up a can of orders for them. We at night

603
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:20,880
time, early morning, late night remove
everything like that. It's a high risk.

604
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:25,280
» Okay. Uh have we ever thought about
using local contractors? They all have

605
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:31,160
garbage pay
everyone.

606
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,160
Why can't we use them?

607
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:37,440
» A few thing about that. Okay. Few thing
about that. First of all, mobile

608
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:44,160
contractor. Yes, they could have water
tanker. The tank it's normally too big

609
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:49,280
to do fire
>> water shuttle. Okay. Because in order to

610
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:54,800
fire a shuttle, a tank should be between
1500 to 2,000 gallon. Larger than that,

611
00:53:52,319 --> 00:54:00,880
that will screw up the water shuttle
process. This is the first thing. Okay.

612
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:06,400
For in term of mutual aid, as an
example, okay, I think it's two months

613
00:54:03,359 --> 00:54:13,440
ago, Earth had a major fire downtown.
Okay. They needed more resources. not f

614
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:19,760
not right from the get-go for what 3 4
hours later after the fire started. So

615
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:27,920
time in in this case time it's not in
the essence okay last in 2024 we were

616
00:54:24,079 --> 00:54:34,640
called in Cochran and we went in Cochran
okay it's sometime it's just to provide

617
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:39,760
additional resources to because the
local resources need to rest need a

618
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:47,920
break it's the reason why so the
distance sometime it's not really the

619
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:51,400
main priority it's to be able to do some
staffing rotation.

620
00:54:51,920 --> 00:55:03,839
» Well, we have enough staff to rotate on
our end protecting our account

621
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:10,640
» at no time. At no time, we will leave we
will we will let uh the community

622
00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:16,640
without proper fire protection at no
time. And if we're called I don't know

623
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:22,240
in I don't know in in matise for to
provide support and we can't we don't

624
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:28,760
have enough resources at that time sorry
we can't go it's not an obligation we're

625
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,760
not obliged to

626
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:40,160
but it's us that we have the most
uh number of working fires per years on

627
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:47,480
the highway 11. So
sometime we could re we could request a

628
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:47,480
bit more than they will we will provide.

629
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,680
Mutual aid agreement.

630
00:56:18,559 --> 00:56:26,799
I think we're doing that right now. Um,
so and um

631
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:34,040
» what what does what does it entail for
capis casing to become to to enter into

632
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:34,040
an agreement of mutual aid?

633
00:56:35,359 --> 00:56:40,400
» So they they will help us and we in turn
will help them. I think we're already

634
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:45,079
doing that.
>> So I I don't know why we need the

635
00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:13,160
Okay. All these things are written in a
mutual agreement. Okay. So, okay.

636
00:57:18,319 --> 00:57:21,319
Okay.

637
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:33,559
Okay.

638
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:48,359
Exist
support in in the exceptional case.

639
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:48,359
It's the reason why. Okay.

640
00:57:54,480 --> 00:58:01,119
» One one of the other reasons for
formalizing

641
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:06,559
um an agreement in this is otherwise
there's nothing necessarily ensuring

642
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:12,480
that there is a commitment to receive
aid or to provide aid. So organizations

643
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:18,160
will if you're evaluating someone's
emergency response capability and you

644
00:58:14,319 --> 00:58:25,280
say well we we count on this company or
this town to provide us uh response

645
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:28,640
services. Okay. How do you know they're
going to come? we have a mutual

646
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:34,559
agreement and insurance companies will
rely on that um to say okay you can you

647
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:38,880
can say you have this additional support
potentially to help you respond to in

648
00:58:37,119 --> 00:58:43,440
the absence of it being formal so I
don't think you can just to say that

649
00:58:41,599 --> 00:58:47,359
something has happened or we're doing it
anyway outside of an agreement isn't

650
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:51,280
necessarily something that can be relied
on their insurance benefits to being

651
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:58,760
able to say you have a breed
that's another reason for listen not

652
00:58:55,359 --> 00:58:58,760
example Okay.

653
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,000
Okay.

654
00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:16,760
Okay. That was a commercial building
downtown. Okay. Threetory building.

655
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,760
Okay.

656
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:32,160
Cat pumper. that that they were flowing
water 80 firefighter on scene. Okay. For

657
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:36,240
24 hours. How can I with our current
resources? How can I get 80

658
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:41,480
firefighters? Totally impossible. How
can I get four pumpers? Totally

659
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,480
impossible.

660
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:55,559
Planning in case of a fire for 31 Queen
Street right behind uh I think it's CIBC

661
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,559
Bank. Okay.

662
00:59:57,599 --> 01:00:08,079
Three pumpers. I think it's 30ish or 40
firefighters.

663
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:13,599
Okay. As with and I can't justify you. I
can't justify I cannot justify to you to

664
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:20,799
have a department with three pumpers,
50, 60 firefighters. The cost will be a

665
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:27,760
astronomical for one fire, three or five
fires per years. No, I prefer paying

666
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:33,680
each time mutual aid. And by the same
token, we we're going to save money

667
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:37,400
because we're not required to have a
huge department.

668
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:49,119
» Is there any question?
>> So, so you you mentioned that that um in

669
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:53,839
the mutual aid agreement uh WSID is
written into that. So, you you're

670
01:00:50,799 --> 01:00:57,760
covered under WSIB. Correct.
>> Wait. Yeah. Wait.

671
01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:04,319
» So why wouldn't you be able to have the
same kind of uh arrangements around uh

672
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:08,280
extrication?
>> A very good question.

673
01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:25,119
It's negotiation.
So we can negotiate that with the other

674
01:01:22,319 --> 01:01:28,760
the other municipalities.
It's all about negotiation.

675
01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:39,079
I just want to remind you that in ext if
we go back to the extra extrication

676
01:01:36,079 --> 01:01:39,079
topic

677
01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:43,240
profile extrication

678
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:51,359
it's going to cost between $50 to
$75,000

679
01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:58,640
just for the equipment. the initial
training would be around $20,000

680
01:01:55,760 --> 01:02:02,400
plus the skills maintenance.
So it's very expensive. So for smaller

681
01:02:00,799 --> 01:02:10,559
municipalities, it's probably better to
conclude an agreement with us. Uh and

682
01:02:07,839 --> 01:02:13,559
just uh having us responding when it's
required.

683
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:23,520
Go ahead. Are all the other
municipalities are they all included

684
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:28,640
already?
>> No, they're not equipped for

685
01:02:25,839 --> 01:02:33,280
extrication. You're talking doing a
motor vehicle extrication. If it's that

686
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:39,680
they're not equipped with fire, any fire
or anything like that.

687
01:02:36,079 --> 01:02:44,839
» They have pumpers and they have tankers.
Some has only a pumper, some as boat.

688
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:50,960
» All right. Bruce, does your question
relate to are they in favor of agreeing

689
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:54,440
to us?
>> I want to guess

690
01:02:55,119 --> 01:02:58,119
open

691
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,640
just

692
01:03:04,079 --> 01:03:10,359
my recommendation number two is to start
a discussion with other municipalities.

693
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:25,200
No.
>> So this is I guess strategic is to one

694
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:29,760
enter into or open the discussion to uh
enter into appropriate agreements to

695
01:03:28,319 --> 01:03:32,559
there is negotiation with those
agreements too if there especially uh

696
01:03:31,359 --> 01:03:37,599
when it comes to cost like the
extreation. So there is uh there can be

697
01:03:35,599 --> 01:03:41,760
a question of what is the appropriate
compensation to supplement what we would

698
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:46,319
get from the province by doing it
outside the municipal boundaries. And

699
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:50,319
three, the third recommendation is to
pursue appropriate compensation either

700
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:56,599
through the province or some other
arrangement uh through the agreement if

701
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,599
it can be

702
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:10,480
you bring to us the example of the
mutual aid agreement that the WSID of

703
01:04:07,039 --> 01:04:18,319
the other municipality covers our
firefighters.

704
01:04:13,359 --> 01:04:23,440
I saw both. I saw the two types. I saw
that the local municipality when they go

705
01:04:21,039 --> 01:04:28,720
and support the other municipality
assume their own WSIB responsibility and

706
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:35,960
I saw that it's the other municipality
that could assume I saw both. Okay. But

707
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,960
again, it's negotiation.

708
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:43,280
have a hard time to how do you put
somebody from one payroll to another

709
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:47,119
payroll and telling them under WSID? I
just don't understand

710
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:52,520
what you're saying and I think it's a
good idea. It's just a recording.

711
01:04:53,039 --> 01:05:02,640
» I never saw in action when
the local municipality wanted to charge

712
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:06,799
the other one. I never for WS universa
but I just saw the written ones.

713
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:11,680
Okay.
>> A copy of the written one.

714
01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:15,160
» I don't have a any copy with me now.
>> No no but

715
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:23,359
» one of the one of the ways in which
one of the ways in which I think it

716
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:27,440
would work is similar to u say for
example I think of of the mill huge

717
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:31,359
individuals with procurement of hot
services.

718
01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:36,960
uh or any corporate uh corporation doing
so, you want to ensure that the the

719
01:05:33,839 --> 01:05:41,280
company you are hiring has WSAB coverage
is in good standing with WSIB.

720
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:47,359
Alternatively, if if depending on the
size of them or if they're just scaling

721
01:05:43,359 --> 01:05:51,760
up a new uh a startup, they may not have
that kind of uh administrative

722
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:57,039
infrastructure in place and you can come
you can say you can fall under our WSID

723
01:05:54,240 --> 01:06:00,000
cover. So, so one organization submits
the claim and allows it to be done for

724
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,960
an injured worker.
>> Something like that.

725
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:08,880
» Something like that is how I could see
it working. I don't know if it applies

726
01:06:05,119 --> 01:06:13,280
to each day before you don't
die. Now, who's going to be here? like

727
01:06:10,799 --> 01:06:17,680
if if I'm negotiating a contract, I
would be thinking, all right, if we go

728
01:06:15,359 --> 01:06:23,440
to respond in your community and support
uh an emergency response incident,

729
01:06:20,799 --> 01:06:27,920
uh would you cover if there is a an
injury up to including a delayed PTSD

730
01:06:26,559 --> 01:06:32,240
response, something like that, then it
will fall under your municipalities WCIB

731
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:38,799
and
uh benefits insurance policy. And if

732
01:06:35,599 --> 01:06:45,039
it's written into agreement then
have to get some involvement for

733
01:06:43,039 --> 01:06:49,680
» I don't know the the details of it but
conceptually that's

734
01:06:47,119 --> 01:06:52,160
a good idea the negotiation started
there would be a longer

735
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:59,119
no
>> it's just for WSI purposes so for the

736
01:06:55,039 --> 01:07:05,680
full time WSI is based on their up to
the maximum but for WID coverage for a

737
01:07:02,319 --> 01:07:10,559
municipality it is uh for each volunteer
firefighter, the municipality needs to

738
01:07:08,319 --> 01:07:15,839
pay the maximum coverage per fire
volunteer firefighter. So say we have

739
01:07:13,039 --> 01:07:20,240
21, we need to pay the maximum. So if it
would be um included in your mutual aid

740
01:07:18,559 --> 01:07:24,880
agreement then it would be my
understanding that both municipalities

741
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:28,440
would need to supplement their numbers
and that could be

742
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:35,039
» so it's not just you can't just decide
today I'm going to pay for 15 or like

743
01:07:33,039 --> 01:07:38,400
because I have an incident right we have
them on a roster this is how many we're

744
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:42,240
paying
>> and and it's paid on a yearly basis I'm

745
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:45,119
not sure how that would differ that's
for volunteer group right but couple

746
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,720
times
different but most of our surrounding

747
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:54,319
municipalities are also on on a
volunteer group basis

748
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:57,440
whereas we have a foundation.
Thanks for the info. It sounds like

749
01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:02,400
there's a I mean there's obviously
interest in protecting uh not incurring

750
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:08,880
unnecessary liability while at the same
time uh continue to provide uh you know

751
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:12,960
a service for our neighboring
communities and also be in receipt of of

752
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:17,600
that mutual service when it's
appropriate. So again, that won't be in

753
01:08:15,359 --> 01:08:22,159
the details. So uh we can't do that
unless we have an endorsement to go talk

754
01:08:20,719 --> 01:08:26,960
about these with with the other
communities and formulate an appropriate

755
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:31,920
policy for us that works. If we're in
support of continuing to do that, um you

756
01:08:30,239 --> 01:08:34,960
can we can bring all this information to
the table that everyone's interested in

757
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:39,120
understanding as part of them.
>> It's all a meeting in itself just to go

758
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:43,040
through the Yeah.
>> Yeah.

759
01:08:40,799 --> 01:08:46,799
I don't think it's a thing to decide
tonight.

760
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:50,880
» Well, I this was just for consideration.
I don't think there's an ask right now.

761
01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:54,560
It was simply to hear the concerns and
and uh give direction to continue.

762
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,839
» Yeah.
>> Is that what is that all because there's

763
01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:01,440
no
>> direction decision the hard direction

764
01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:06,400
that's being requested other than to
discuss and consider? And and I think to

765
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:10,640
your point, I mean, what what we're
talking about here also lends really

766
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:15,839
well to the next your next item on there
as well for lift assists and for the for

767
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:20,880
dies.
>> So is there any other discussion on this

768
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:25,199
first just on the low service and and uh
responding outside of town cap? Has

769
01:09:23,199 --> 01:09:31,199
anyone talked to the volunteers
themselves? They volunteer perhaps Jason

770
01:09:28,480 --> 01:09:35,440
have they volunteered to go hold on. I
think that may be an important item you

771
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:39,920
got to check on
cuz now you're going to need it could be

772
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:44,480
standard period to find away from their
family have volunteers.

773
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:49,199
It's a probably it's two different work
groups. One is a permanent work group,

774
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:54,000
one's volunteer work. Maybe have
communication before we go too move

775
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:54,000
forward.

776
01:09:55,360 --> 01:10:00,960
Like any other workplace policy, it's
important, I think, to gather feedback

777
01:09:59,440 --> 01:10:04,960
from
from the employees. But ultimately, it's

778
01:10:02,719 --> 01:10:10,159
the the direction or it's a policy
setting that occurs at our level. And uh

779
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:13,920
if if we feel it's important to provide
the service, then that's really just a

780
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:19,520
condition of continuing to be But that's
not true, K. That's not true because our

781
01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:21,920
volunteers are for CAT.
you're adding on to something beyond

782
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,880
that.
>> Well, well, from what I'm hearing, we're

783
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:28,000
not adding on. It's already It's already
three to five. It's already three to

784
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:31,360
five calls. It's only three to five
calls a year and you already provide

785
01:10:29,199 --> 01:10:36,000
that service anyway. We're just talking.
>> All I'm saying is to have a have

786
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:39,920
communication with the crews and ask
them if they're for this.

787
01:10:38,239 --> 01:10:45,920
» Saying it's important to consult with
them regarding policy, but but we don't

788
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:51,199
give workers a veto over what our policy
directions are. So if there's a

789
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:56,400
consideration of links to volunteers, we
have to think that it's part of the risk

790
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:59,199
that costbenefit analysis for sure
whether you're going to do something or

791
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:03,199
not if that's uh if you're not if you're
afraid or not where volunteers come.

792
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:07,920
But policy comes first and then we
consult on that policy to see if it

793
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:11,760
continues to make sense and we're just
trying to inform ourselves as to what

794
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:16,120
the policy should be that we set uh in
regards to these types of incidents.

795
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:30,520
Appreciate the comments. Uh any other
discussion or uh questions about this?

796
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:30,520
Okay, we'll move on to the

797
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:39,320
No, I'm good. I took notes. Uh I took
note

798
01:11:43,199 --> 01:11:51,199
letter with other details. It's just to
start the top the result the report was

799
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:55,159
just to start the conversation the
discussion at council level.

800
01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:02,719
» All right. Third item on the agenda.
This is a request to enter into an

801
01:12:01,199 --> 01:12:07,840
agreement for the provision of third
response services with Cochran District

802
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:13,360
Services Board within the limits of the
town of Capiscation. Recommendation is

803
01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:16,800
that council receive the report entitled
agreement with the Cochran District

804
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:21,040
Service Board and authorize the clerk
and the mayor to execute the agreement

805
01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:25,280
with CBS. Furthermore, the council
direct the fire chief to proceed with

806
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:32,360
the implementation of the third response
services in accordance with the timeline

807
01:12:28,239 --> 01:12:32,360
outlined in the report.

808
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:46,199
» Yes. Uh this topic was brought um
productive services

809
01:12:55,199 --> 01:13:04,640
what I'm talking about here is very
simple. Okay. Uh it's and you will see

810
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:08,800
we already doing it on a part-time
basis. Okay.

811
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:28,400
CPR. So, noral sign uh short of breath,
chest pain. Okay,

812
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:38,400
the list it's it's I put the list in the
report. Okay, so it's uh it's it's I

813
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:44,800
think it's at at the last page. Okay. Uh
we uh when when we did the work with CD

814
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:50,560
SAB we determined that the department
would respond to an average of 200 calls

815
01:13:47,679 --> 01:13:56,080
a year less than one call a day to these
type of calls. Okay. The dur the average

816
01:13:53,760 --> 01:14:03,840
duration of one of these calls it's be
it's around 20 minutes that doesn't

817
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:10,480
create any burden on our workload. So uh
and the training required to do that

818
01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:17,440
it's a it's the it's a first
medical first responder which is a 40

819
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:25,280
hours course provided by DAB.
Um it has for the training it has no

820
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:31,600
cost. It's all paid by DAB. We already
have all the equipment. Uh what when I

821
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:41,120
did the analysis uh I expect that would
cost us around $400 per year of diesel

822
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:46,080
uh 200 calls an average of 20 30 minutes
max that like I said that will not

823
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:53,679
create any burden on our workload and
the calls happen during the day during

824
01:14:48,239 --> 01:15:01,360
the night. Uh going back to the WSIB or
the PTSD topic. Okay. I did some

825
01:14:58,159 --> 01:15:05,800
research. I consult one of the largest
the second largest department in Canada.

826
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:30,880
They since then, so five, seven years
after they implement a proper medical

827
01:15:27,199 --> 01:15:36,159
first responder course and since then
because staff are trained properly at

828
01:15:33,679 --> 01:15:42,560
the right level, they don't have a
single out of 2600 firefighters a single

829
01:15:39,440 --> 01:15:50,640
firefighter on PTS is due to medical
response. Okay. So I did I did the did

830
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:55,120
the I did the research on that. Um
what else? What can I currently

831
01:15:53,120 --> 01:16:04,159
currently when we don't have any
ambulance in town? Okay we do call we do

832
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:09,920
get called for medical emergency medical
uh when life people have like their life

833
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:16,560
is threatening. Okay, we get the call.
We do respond.

834
01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:20,760
Okay. Um, what else? Uh, what else did I
miss here? Um,

835
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:34,960
it's different than lift assist. I'm not
talking about lift assist. Lift assist

836
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:40,320
or fire related call. Because even if we
don't do tiered response,

837
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:47,360
we will still doing lift assist because
it's an assistance to another the

838
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:51,520
another agency. Okay. What I'm talking
about is if public are on scene and we

839
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:56,719
showed up at the same time, we will
support them package the patient and the

840
01:16:54,080 --> 01:17:02,000
ambulance and the ambulance leave and
respond go back the station. If for any

841
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:07,040
reason we show up first we will
administer what is as per the protocol

842
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:13,760
as per what the level of training that
firefighter has and we will as soon on

843
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:20,560
scene they we they will package the
patient put in the ambulance leave to

844
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:27,440
the hospital. Okay. Uh currently
it's happen it's happened we do medical

845
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:31,520
call and one show up on the package and
they leave. So that we instead of doing

846
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:41,120
a few times a year, we're going to do it
200 times a year.

847
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:46,000
» We uh I got I did receive a lot of
comments from the full-time staff. Okay.

848
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:52,159
Oh, by the way, doing that will not
create any overtime at all. No

849
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:56,400
backfilling because that will be done on
shift. Okay. It's only the on shift

850
01:17:54,480 --> 01:17:59,679
firefighter that will respond to med
calls.

851
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:05,760
Also
uh if we are on a working fire or if we

852
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:11,280
are not available for any reason because
it's not our core services we will not

853
01:18:08,719 --> 01:18:18,120
do it we will not provide this level of
service okay so when I receive

854
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,640
Wait.

855
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,880
Agreement.

856
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:49,960
Okay.

857
01:18:51,760 --> 01:19:00,159
Okay.
By doing that, that's mean we would get

858
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:05,840
called more often within our town
limits. Okay. within our town limits and

859
01:19:03,679 --> 01:19:10,480
because we're going to respond to motor
vehicle collisions a little bit more

860
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:14,080
often. I expect be 30 times more than
what we do now within our town limit.

861
01:19:12,719 --> 01:19:20,640
That's mean we're going to be able to
claim 30 times

862
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:25,520
$600
>> to the we're already doing it right now,

863
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:30,239
but we're not getting paid.
>> Oh, currently no. Currently we don't we

864
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:35,040
don't respond to this these motor
vehicle collision. We respond only when

865
01:19:32,719 --> 01:19:36,080
extrication is required in our town
limit.

866
01:19:35,440 --> 01:19:39,080
» Okay.
>> Okay.

867
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:47,080
» Okay.

868
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:07,280
Um, so you say it's going to take you 40
hours to get everybody up to snuff. How

869
01:20:04,719 --> 01:20:12,320
long is the pumper course?
>> Uh, 40 hours.

870
01:20:09,679 --> 01:20:18,480
» Yeah. You know, we've been working on
the pumper course for the last two and a

871
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:23,040
half years, three years, and we're just
doing we're 80% 80. Well, okay. So, two

872
01:20:21,440 --> 01:20:27,840
years, one one year, whatever. Like,
we're 80% complete. What makes you think

873
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:34,719
we'll be able to complete the 40hour
course to like shouldn't we be shouldn't

874
01:20:31,199 --> 01:20:38,560
we be addressing our our core
our core race all night? Uh, so fighting

875
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:42,000
fires, making sure that we can hold a
gun, a host,

876
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:47,199
» you know what I mean?
>> Okay. And I'm just putting that out

877
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:50,199
there because I mean it's the obvious.
Sorry.

878
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:12,320
because of their personal schedule.
Okay. So, first responder course will be

879
01:21:09,440 --> 01:21:18,320
done on the full-time
full-time firefighter schedule when they

880
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:23,960
are at work. So
I would say six eight weeks to be

881
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,960
completed.

882
01:21:26,480 --> 01:21:33,080
» They're providing the training.
>> Provide the training.

883
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:33,080
» Oh, they're not paying the full cup.

884
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,719
» They're already

885
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:44,719
» on
>> Oh,

886
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:50,640
» yeah. The trans.
>> Okay.

887
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:54,480
Article five of the project agreement.
All medical training cost and cost

888
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:59,440
associated with the maintenance of
equipment and staff qualification shall

889
01:21:56,639 --> 01:22:02,440
be the exclusive responsibility of CD
SAB.

890
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:18,600
Come on. Um, it's a chef.

891
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:30,800
» Uh, when when I when I started to work
on that, I got a lot of comments from

892
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:37,520
the full-time staff about the mo mostly
about the implementation. Okay. And the

893
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:43,520
implementation will be done on three
three different phases. LAR

894
01:22:41,199 --> 01:22:49,199
starting to respond to motor vehicle
collision within our town limit. Okay,

895
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:54,560
this is the first the second phase after
training is fully completed. So January

896
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:59,120
1st that's going to be sh a shadowing
period for uh three months. So they're

897
01:22:57,679 --> 01:23:03,120
going they're going to respond at the
same time then the ambulance the

898
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:07,360
paramedics and they're going to shadow
them. They're going to just support them

899
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:14,080
see what they do just to make them more
much more comfortable. Okay. And the

900
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:18,280
last phase, phase number three, that
it's the full implementation.

901
01:23:30,480 --> 01:23:33,480
Fore

902
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,840
service.

903
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:56,360
Okay.

904
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:02,040
service.

905
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:08,040
Okay.

906
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:23,560
This is just to name a few that we know.

907
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:44,800
See today it's good the relationship
between peric and firefighter is good

908
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:49,080
because firefighter are not there to
steal peric jobs

909
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:56,440
would have been a different story but
now it's we're past that.

910
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:06,280
Any

911
01:25:07,679 --> 01:25:12,040
other questions or uh

912
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:20,760
yeah well two weeks it's uh the
recommendation for

913
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:36,320
» all right
recommendation stands. Uh fourth item

914
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:43,120
is a request to enter into an agreement
with global medic to accept the donation

915
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:51,360
of a wildland fire skid system.
Recommendation is that council enter

916
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:56,080
into the agreement with a global medic.
>> Okay.

917
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:59,080
See, Global Medic, it's a nonprofit
organization

918
01:26:03,440 --> 01:26:14,400
municipal all across Canada. Okay.
Global Medic provide to uh fire

919
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:20,000
department
what it's nameland fires kit. It's a

920
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:26,159
It's a It's a It's a water tank,
portable pump,

921
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:33,360
high pressure portable pump with hoses.
Okay. And it's used to fight brush and

922
01:26:30,639 --> 01:26:36,960
forest fire. When I say brush fire, we
have a ton of brush fire br we have a

923
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:43,600
ton of possibility of brush fire around
town. So within our town limit, I said,

924
01:26:40,159 --> 01:26:50,159
"Okay." So they want to they contact us
and they offered to us uh this piece of

925
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:56,159
equipment Timmens will get will get two
uh they at as today they already

926
01:26:52,639 --> 01:27:02,560
distributed 600 fire kit throughout the
country. Okay. And the value of the fire

927
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:11,920
kit it's around $6,000. So I put few
pictures here. Okay. On page uh page

928
01:27:06,480 --> 01:27:16,880
page four of the report. Okay. So uh
that doesn't this to use the system.

929
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:22,719
It's not required to have a specific
training. Uh it's not a specific it's

930
01:27:20,639 --> 01:27:29,280
not a special piece of equipment. It's
just an add-on an addition to our piece

931
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:33,239
of equipment that we it will be useful
to protect our community.

932
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:39,880
I'm available for a question.

933
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:46,960
I've seen the I mean this one's pretty
straightforward. There's no uh there's

934
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:53,600
no cost fills a gap. We've already had
some uh say rush fire, forest fire

935
01:27:50,080 --> 01:28:00,120
incidents. Um
>> okay, that's

936
01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:00,120
how transh.

937
01:28:04,639 --> 01:28:13,840
» It's a good question. uh if we get this
piece of equipment we will get probably

938
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:20,000
by the third weeks or last week of
August. So the brush fire season will be

939
01:28:16,719 --> 01:28:25,040
almost over. So it's either first of all
I will contact my colleague at public

940
01:28:22,719 --> 01:28:34,239
work to see if he has an available
trailer. If not for 202 2027 I will

941
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:39,480
budget a trailer to put this kid on it.
>> Yeah. You have some you have some pretty

942
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:39,480
good welders in there.

943
01:28:40,639 --> 01:28:44,760
They're very they're very kind.

944
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:58,480
I think
>> I think it's a great opportunity and tr

945
01:28:55,920 --> 01:29:06,880
to be honest we should we should uh
accept this donation and this donation

946
01:29:01,679 --> 01:29:12,719
is made or will be made with no uh with
no uh with no condition. We're going to

947
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:12,719
own it.

948
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:22,560
That's good.
That's unless there's any other

949
01:29:20,480 --> 01:29:27,760
questions, comments, concerns. That's it
for executive services agenda.

950
01:29:24,639 --> 01:29:33,600
» Thanks, Council Mon.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh,

951
01:29:30,719 --> 01:29:37,920
so request 2026 capital budget amendment
presented a road intersection upgrade

952
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:43,360
and deferral of Niagara Street in St.
Clair Avenueing project. The

953
01:29:40,639 --> 01:29:48,880
recommendation is that council approve
the peneti road intersection upgrade

954
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:54,960
project as a 2026 capital expense
increasing the 2026 capital budget

955
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:59,199
expenditures by approximately 189,000
and that council approved the

956
01:29:56,480 --> 01:30:04,239
postponement of the Niagara Street and
Sinclair Avenue resurfacing project from

957
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:10,000
2026 to 2027
and that the associated 2026

958
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:14,639
construction budget allocation of 23
35,000 for the Niagara Street and St.

959
01:30:12,239 --> 01:30:19,840
Clair Avenue resurfacing project be
removed from the 2026 capital budget

960
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:25,040
resulting in an estimated net reduction
in 2026 capital expenditures of

961
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:30,639
approximately 46,000.
Before I open up to question, I think

962
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:36,239
this is uh Paul's last meeting, so I'd
like to thank him for uh his service at

963
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:45,360
the town of Caps.
Any questions on that? Is that subject?

964
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:50,880
» Is the um engineering done for street?
>> Um no. So we got a draft uh last week.

965
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:56,719
So we need to review and then go through
with the engineers. We expect uh maybe

966
01:30:54,719 --> 01:31:01,760
another month to six weeks before the
design would be completed for that

967
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:07,360
project. So this is allows us a little
bit more time to refine the design and

968
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:10,840
be confident with um the but that we
would um

969
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:20,080
see there's not that that much structure
work being done. Is this a project that

970
01:31:17,679 --> 01:31:25,480
could possibly be pushed forward once we
know the estimated costs

971
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:30,800
» could earlier than
>> you're referencing Niagara and St.

972
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:33,520
Clair?
>> Yes.

973
01:31:31,440 --> 01:31:37,760
» Well, the idea was to do that project
this year.

974
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:42,239
» Um,
this is just a means of um potentially

975
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:47,040
saving a little bit of money this year
by moving that project to next year.

976
01:31:44,639 --> 01:31:48,719
there's a appetite for uh councils
looking to move forward with it this

977
01:31:48,239 --> 01:31:53,440
year.
>> I'm just thinking of what it's going to

978
01:31:50,239 --> 01:32:00,159
cost extra next year.
>> The cheapest time to do it is now.

979
01:31:56,000 --> 01:32:06,880
» Yeah. So yeah always uh always you know
that's why we would like to continue um

980
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:11,760
reviewing projects like uh in person
and those designs are all nearing

981
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:16,520
completion that they be consideration
for for this year's construction season

982
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:16,520
still

983
01:32:19,679 --> 01:32:26,800
» there any other questions?
Well, just one, what's the driver for

984
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:32,800
this? Is it was it to flag off cost
saving opportunities as a result of

985
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:36,880
» the pretty much the snow
removal budget went overboard or is

986
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:40,719
what's coming up?
>> Yeah. So, a little bit we we had

987
01:32:38,239 --> 01:32:44,960
approved this project the the Bville
intersection upgrades that we council a

988
01:32:43,440 --> 01:32:49,920
few meetings ago where it was approved
to proceed. Um I had originally had it

989
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:55,920
as an operational cost that we were
going to divide the certain elements

990
01:32:51,679 --> 01:33:00,800
through operations. Um seeing that I
need to save some money operationally.

991
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:05,440
Um and then talking with the auditors
and knowing that this project more of a

992
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:10,639
capital project was an operational
project. Moving this into capital saves

993
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:15,679
operational money. plan to not
overextend on our capital commitments

994
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:22,480
for this year is to remove a project of
similar scope in uh in cost. Okay.

995
01:33:20,480 --> 01:33:27,600
» So I didn't want to just say let's spend
another 200,000 on this. Let's spend

996
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:32,320
200,000 by removing another house next
year. Okay. Thanks.

997
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:37,080
If I remember correctly, they said the
Niagara speak already

998
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:42,159
the engineering was approved and
>> it was the the construction was

999
01:33:41,679 --> 01:33:46,560
approved.
>> Yeah. So construction was person and

1000
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:53,520
then
>> so yeah just to uh clarify the Nag St.

1001
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:57,239
Clair is just a resurface area. It's not
an underground for

1002
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:07,199
the first
>> and we have enough for Nords. The Nords

1003
01:34:02,239 --> 01:34:11,040
uh is it probably qualifies for that and
that wasn't in the budget in the first

1004
01:34:08,639 --> 01:34:18,800
place. So
>> yeah look at that. Uh I think we got on

1005
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:22,239
another project so we can continue to
because

1006
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:26,199
» buying year after year. So we're going
to move that to the north person

1007
01:34:32,480 --> 01:34:35,719
that sh

1008
01:34:43,199 --> 01:34:49,520
we have we have enough for streets that
have that desperately need some

1009
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:54,199
attention. Um I think that's addressed
through the asset management. Okay.

1010
01:34:56,560 --> 01:35:01,159
» So Jamie's the one putting cones on all
the

1011
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:08,440
» Any other questions?

1012
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:17,040
» Thanks. Economic development and
community wellbeing and recreation.

1013
01:35:14,159 --> 01:35:22,960
» Thank you Harvard. Um so a request for
recreation department's monthly report

1014
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:28,960
for June 206. So the recommendation is
uh that council be the recreation

1015
01:35:25,440 --> 01:35:32,400
department remained um the recreation
department remained exceptionally active

1016
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:36,480
throughout June supporting major
community events maintaining key

1017
01:35:34,639 --> 01:35:40,960
recreational assets and preparing for a
busy summer season. Staff played a

1018
01:35:38,639 --> 01:35:46,400
significant role in the successful KDHs
90th reunion St. Jamington helping

1019
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:51,520
deliver events and infected visitors
celebrated Korean pride and showcase

1020
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:56,239
local uh facilities. The town's
recreation infrastructure continued to

1021
01:35:53,360 --> 01:36:00,719
see strong utilization. Um the ball
fields hosted extensive you school youth

1022
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:05,840
and adult programming demonstrating
their importance as one of capac's most

1023
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:10,080
heavily used summer recreation assets.
pool staff focused on launching summer

1024
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:14,080
programs, organizing cap kids parks and
sports programs, and coordinating

1025
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:19,199
registrations for swimming lessons and
junior lifeguards.

1026
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:23,600
Um, the town's parks and outdoor
activities remain important gathering

1027
01:36:21,440 --> 01:36:27,199
spaces throughout the month. The splash
bat and welcome families and school

1028
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:31,360
groups for side park hosted community
events and staff completed extensive

1029
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:36,239
maintenance on tennis court pickle ball
courts playgrounds and other outdoor

1030
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:40,800
facilities to ensure they remain safe
and enjoyable for residents. staff also

1031
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:44,320
led several strategic initiatives
including work on the cap specing

1032
01:36:42,480 --> 01:36:49,360
cemetery
uh columbarium

1033
01:36:47,199 --> 01:36:53,440
expansion project and efforts to
modernize cemetery record management

1034
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:57,679
seasonal students contributed
significantly to cemetery visitation and

1035
01:36:55,600 --> 01:37:01,199
maintenance helping preserve a
respectful and welcoming environment for

1036
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:05,760
Pacific
um just I just add a little quick note

1037
01:37:03,440 --> 01:37:11,679
here our community remains vibrant
healthy and um well loved. So thank you

1038
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:17,199
to everybody involved. You don't even
have time to uh look over the report of

1039
01:37:14,239 --> 01:37:21,600
all our successes.
>> A lot of great activities took place

1040
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:25,159
here. Was was your busiest June ever? My
first June here.

1041
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:30,600
Very busy.

1042
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:39,520
» Any questions, comments? No.
>> Just one comment. It it's great to walk

1043
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:44,719
around the style at night time and if
anyone ever says there's nothing new

1044
01:37:42,239 --> 01:37:51,520
because they don't want to do it.
>> You go by the golf course jam. Baseball

1045
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:59,560
feels jam bad. Soccer fields jam bad. Uh
pickle ball same thing. Like there's

1046
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:59,560
lots of things that do good on you guys.

1047
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:08,560
Um,
next item on the agenda is for

1048
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:13,679
information capacity economic
development monthly report for June July

1049
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:20,159
2026. So, a couple highlights here. Of
course, CAP raise uh great success.

1050
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:26,080
Again, sponsorships and funding are up.
Um, they've exceeded their expectation

1051
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:31,040
by a lot of money. In addition, CAP
raise received $55,000 in funding from

1052
01:38:29,199 --> 01:38:38,000
the government of Ontario through the
Experience Ontario program. So, we know

1053
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:45,440
that um the people working in our exev
department uh they're working very hard

1054
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:49,199
and uh we see great success there.
Congratulations to them and those teams

1055
01:38:47,679 --> 01:38:52,800
and her welcome center is very
welcoming.

1056
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:56,239
Is there any questions, comments about
that?

1057
01:38:54,719 --> 01:39:01,840
That's all for me.
>> Thanks Emry. Uh health council one item

1058
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:06,719
Mr. Mayor it's a request for support for
the MRI weight times to access

1059
01:39:04,480 --> 01:39:09,920
diagnostic imaging services
recommendation that council receive

1060
01:39:08,159 --> 01:39:15,119
correspondence from Mike Vashel or Mr.
Wakefield regarding NR times and access

1061
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:19,679
diagnostic imaging services and caps
facing and surrounding areas. And

1062
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:23,760
further council direct administration to
prepare letters of support advocacy

1063
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:27,920
regarding improved access to MRI and
diagnostic imaging services for the

1064
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:31,679
resident space and surrounding areas and
further that the advocacy letter be sent

1065
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:34,800
to the ministry of health der health
north and local member of provincial

1066
01:39:33,199 --> 01:39:41,840
parliament and other appropriate health
partners. The letters attached that Mr.

1067
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:45,119
has said um I know the hospital's
working towards the MR and I believe

1068
01:39:43,679 --> 01:39:49,360
yours though still
>> it's a matter of time but it's nice to

1069
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:50,320
have letters to speed things up.
>> Yeah,

1070
01:39:49,679 --> 01:39:54,560
» that's all I have.
>> I think the last time we met with

1071
01:39:51,679 --> 01:39:58,400
Minister Jones was last year around MRI
and and her indication was get a

1072
01:39:57,679 --> 01:40:01,920
» apply,
>> you know, get a a program together, get

1073
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:06,080
a plan together and so we're just
waiting to be with them.

1074
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:11,440
» So it's good that Shantal is working on
that night. Thank you.

1075
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:14,880
» That's it. Okay. So that concludes the
committee the whole adoption of the

1076
01:40:12,639 --> 01:40:17,840
minutes. We have a motion uh minutes of
the joint committee of the whole and

1077
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:20,960
council meeting held June 15th.
>> Moved by councelor man, seconded by

1078
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:25,040
councelor Jennison that the minutes of
the joint committees of the whole and

1079
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:29,520
council meeting held on June 15, 2026 be
adopted.

1080
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:34,320
» All in favor
carried. correspondence and average

1081
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:41,600
update. They have a request for to zone
programmed for highway 11 north. So,

1082
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:45,920
anybody want to tackle this one? Do
>> you have any comments on that?

1083
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:52,960
» Oh, yes. I read through it and we're
going to read a little bit, but that's

1084
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:57,920
fine. Um the um request kind of
puts into jeopardy. We we already have

1085
01:40:55,280 --> 01:41:03,600
monopolies on highway construction and I
don't think we want to see monopolies on

1086
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:11,520
highway towing uh hearing that think
maybe something can be done. Um I've

1087
01:41:07,119 --> 01:41:16,800
spoken to other Mr. Murray and Twitter
but others they say the biggest thing

1088
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:20,880
that takes time is not actually the
records but the OTP doing their

1089
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:25,520
investigation getting there. That's what
takes the most time. by hearing that the

1090
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:32,800
only thing I would like in the letter of
support that we want there in the last

1091
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:35,800
um second last paragraph
um

1092
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:48,440
I would had at the end in consultations
with all stakeholders

1093
01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:57,840
» and I don't remember exactly what it
But it's to make sure that all the

1094
01:41:54,800 --> 01:42:02,880
stakeholders, the co- truck operators,
the trucking companies, uh, everybody

1095
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:10,000
has the OP, everybody.
>> Yeah. They put a plan together, not just

1096
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:16,880
by one group. Mhm. But at the end costs
are involved and

1097
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:22,560
there's some astronomical to sometimes
>> and then and there's also the example

1098
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:27,119
what happens in Toronto which is pretty
sad.

1099
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:30,560
Just a comment on that. It is I thought
it was interesting how they bring a

1100
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:36,000
different perspective to our highway
issues about having a difficulty turning

1101
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:43,920
around anywhere on corridor 11 because
they don't have a paved sidewalk

1102
01:42:40,239 --> 01:42:49,520
shoulders and that uh this is another
aspect of why it's important to also get

1103
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:53,520
our two plus point. Oh, definitely it's
important because there would be less

1104
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:59,239
accidents, less
>> but even for them when they

1105
01:42:56,239 --> 01:42:59,239
Yeah.

1106
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:05,280
Yeah,
>> it's one company asking for this and I

1107
01:43:02,639 --> 01:43:09,159
think you have to listen to everybody
both of this probably

1108
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:17,520
just to add to that
agree with the you know the obviously

1109
01:43:14,639 --> 01:43:22,080
the monopoly concern around it
guaranteeing business to one to provide

1110
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:27,360
benefits. I support in principle the MTO
reviewing the restricted tolling zone

1111
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:33,040
subject to broad consultation with all
the all the appropriate stakeholders for

1112
01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:37,840
sure. Um I guess I take I take the the
concern of this word that it's really

1113
01:43:34,639 --> 01:43:43,119
about unregulated driver with wasted uh
towing that is that is occurring that is

1114
01:43:40,239 --> 01:43:47,679
that is uh that's causing the issues and
uh but I I still think we should from a

1115
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:51,360
regional safety perspective still ask
the MTO to review how best to address

1116
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:56,159
this.
>> Yeah.

1117
01:43:54,320 --> 01:44:01,520
» Poland.
>> Yes. So uh so there's no problem in in

1118
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:08,840
changing the resolution to have it
reflected the way that um council has

1119
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:08,840
has gi

1120
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:16,000
uh for information notice aerial
herbicide projects

1121
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:22,880
for us.
We haveformational letter appreciation

1122
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:27,679
from the found for grocery donations.
We have information correspondence from

1123
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:32,639
Minister Minister of Northern Economic
Development Growth and OHF Seek

1124
01:44:29,679 --> 01:44:37,840
opportunities. I think that's uh a nudge
to maybe get some applications uh for

1125
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:43,440
some of the projects we might have out
there. Um so we'll we'll definitely take

1126
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:48,080
that in consideration
um for information correspondence from

1127
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:52,880
for in regards to Northern Shield Energy
Corridor.

1128
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:55,199
Does this does the proposed route pass
near Cal?

1129
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:59,920
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. It was very vague when initially

1130
01:44:57,600 --> 01:45:04,400
announced it had it on a map and you
know it had it in Alberta and it had it

1131
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:08,000
in Sarnia because if it went through
Ontario you hope that you might have

1132
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:13,199
been close to that but it is I think
it's following the history. It would

1133
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:18,400
only make sense to to to follow the
existing uh a lot of lines that are

1134
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:23,480
there today. Rightways are there,
infrastructure to get from the highway

1135
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:23,480
to there

1136
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:30,400
at all.
No, there's

1137
01:45:26,639 --> 01:45:33,040
» there's going to be uh it's it's initial
stages and there's going to be some

1138
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:37,840
consultation obviously that's going to
have to happen and who knows how long it

1139
01:45:34,719 --> 01:45:41,119
might take but certainly
>> sir it sounds like if it is going to go

1140
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:45,040
there would be opportunity for some
economic development outreach just for

1141
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:49,119
you know staging jobs and the
construction of the

1142
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:54,800
» so if consultations occurring we can
make those pitches and kind of sounds

1143
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:54,800
like the energy

1144
01:45:55,840 --> 01:46:03,000
Yeah, in central east
central not going back.

1145
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:14,000
So all in all good news. Uh for
information and thank you letter from

1146
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:17,520
the Timmons District Hospital
and that would conclude that we have a

1147
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:21,920
committee the whole recommendations mill
staff report nil motions and notice of

1148
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:26,560
motions. We have motion to approve a
one-year extension of the sports palace

1149
01:46:24,239 --> 01:46:31,760
skate shop in session agreement.
>> Moved by councel second by councelor.

1150
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:34,960
Whereas Tony Cap spacing entered into a
sports palace skate shop concession

1151
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:38,880
agreement with Mike Bowden for the
provision of skate shop services at with

1152
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:43,360
sports palace and whereas the committee
reviewed the matter at its meeting held

1153
01:46:40,480 --> 01:46:48,159
on June 15, 2026 and recommended that
the existing agreement be extended for a

1154
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:52,159
one-year period. And whereas the town
wishes to maintain uninterrupted skate

1155
01:46:50,159 --> 01:46:57,679
shop services at the sports palace for
the 2026 2027 season. And whereas the

1156
01:46:56,080 --> 01:47:03,040
concessionire has advised the town of
his intention to retire following the

1157
01:46:59,440 --> 01:47:07,920
2026 2027 season. Noras the one-year
extension will provide the town with

1158
01:47:06,159 --> 01:47:11,440
additional time to evaluate future
service delivery options and develop an

1159
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:16,000
appropriate succession plan for the
continued operation of the sports palace

1160
01:47:14,159 --> 01:47:20,320
skate shop. Now therefore, be it
resolved that council approve a one-year

1161
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:24,880
extension of the sports palace becoming
session agreement with my potent

1162
01:47:21,920 --> 01:47:29,920
effective August 1st, 2026 and expiring
July 31st, 2027. And further that all

1163
01:47:28,239 --> 01:47:34,320
terms and conditions of the original
agreement remain in full force and

1164
01:47:32,159 --> 01:47:38,800
effect except as amended by this
one-year extension. And further that the

1165
01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:42,639
clerk be authorized to execute the
one-year extension agreement on behalf

1166
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:48,719
of the corporation of the town cap
state. All in favor?

1167
01:47:46,239 --> 01:47:52,719
Carried. Motion approve the 2026 capital
budget amendments for Brenville Road

1168
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:56,480
intersection upgrades in Niagara Street
Sinclair Avenue reservicing project.

1169
01:47:54,719 --> 01:47:59,600
» Moved by councelor Newton, seconded by
councelor Dennis that council approve

1170
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:04,800
the Brunettville Road intersection
upgrades project as a 2026 capital

1171
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:08,960
expense increasing the 2026 capital
budget expenditures by approximately

1172
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:12,159
$189,000.
And that council approved the

1173
01:48:10,159 --> 01:48:17,600
postponement of the Niagara Street and
St. Clair Avenue resurfacing project

1174
01:48:14,239 --> 01:48:23,360
from 2026 to 2027 and that the
associated 2026 construction budget

1175
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:28,639
allocation of 235,000 for the Niagara
Street and St. Clair Avenue Resurfacing

1176
01:48:25,679 --> 01:48:33,760
project be removed from the 2026 capital
budget resulting in an estimated net

1177
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:39,360
reduction in 2026 capital expenditures
of approximately $46,000.

1178
01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:42,880
» All in favor?
Carried. Motion to support and review

1179
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:46,800
the restricted towing zone for highway
11 and northern corridor.

1180
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:50,880
» Moved by councelor, seconded by
councelor man. Whereas highway 11 is a

1181
01:48:49,199 --> 01:48:54,320
critical transportation corridor for the
northern Ontario supporting res

1182
01:48:52,719 --> 01:48:58,880
emergency services, commercial
transportation and key economic sectors

1183
01:48:56,800 --> 01:49:03,679
including mining, forestry and energy.
And whereas the town caping has received

1184
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:08,480
correspondence from Walton Payton LLP
legal council for mate Oker requesting

1185
01:49:06,719 --> 01:49:13,360
that the
long lap ring zone highway 11 northern

1186
01:49:11,119 --> 01:49:18,239
corridor be designated as a restricted
towing zone under the towing and storage

1187
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:21,920
safety and enforcement act 2021. And
whereas the correspondence identifies

1188
01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:25,760
concerns regarding the absence of a
formal towing protocol along Highway 11

1189
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:30,719
and north, including longer weight
times, duplication of towing efforts,

1190
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:35,199
roadside solicitation, inefficient
response, and increased safety concerns.

1191
01:49:33,199 --> 01:49:40,159
And whereas many sections of Highway 11
in Northern Ontario are single lane

1192
01:49:37,119 --> 01:49:44,159
highways in each direction and delays in
clearing disabled vehicles or collision

1193
01:49:42,159 --> 01:49:48,800
scenes can create significant safety
risks, traffic disruptions, and impacts

1194
01:49:46,480 --> 01:49:53,199
to emergency respon.
And whereas a regulated towing framework

1195
01:49:51,119 --> 01:49:56,880
may assist in promoting faster and safer
housing clearance, ensuring appropriate

1196
01:49:55,119 --> 01:50:00,400
training and equipment standards,
supporting transparent and fair towing

1197
01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:04,480
practices, and reducing the time
emergency personnel are required to

1198
01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:07,920
remain on scene. Now therefore, be it
resolved that council courts town caps

1199
01:50:06,480 --> 01:50:12,080
and received the correspondence from
Walton Heighten LLP regarding the

1200
01:50:10,159 --> 01:50:16,639
request for a tow zone program for
Highway 11 North and further that

1201
01:50:14,159 --> 01:50:20,800
council support in principle a review by
the Ministry of Transportation of the

1202
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:26,080
establishment of a restricted towing
zone or similar related towing framework

1203
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:30,320
for Highway 11 Northern Corridor and to
have proper consultations with all

1204
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:33,920
stakeholders and further that a copy of
this resolution beed to the Ministry of

1205
01:50:32,480 --> 01:50:37,440
Transportation.
The sorry, Minister of Transportation,

1206
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:41,679
Minister of Northern Economic
Development and Growth, Ontario

1207
01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:46,480
Provincial Police, James VOP Detachment
Board to the Ministry of Transportation

1208
01:50:44,159 --> 01:50:51,199
Tollbone Pilot Program, FA NAMA in
effectiveness follows along the Highway

1209
01:50:48,159 --> 01:50:56,719
11 urban corridor.
>> All in favor?

1210
01:50:54,480 --> 01:51:00,719
General items and new foreman. And with
that, I'd like to welcome our you

1211
01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:05,480
foreman, Mai, who's sitting in the back
there. Welcome to the team. No, thank

1212
01:51:02,480 --> 01:51:05,480
you.

1213
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:12,000
» Actually, that that wasn't new new form
and it was new business. There was none,

1214
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:14,800
but you are new business today.
>> Security.

1215
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:18,080
» Okay. We also have a motion for cyber
security. Sorry.

1216
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:21,920
» Moved by councelor Dennis, seconded by
councelor man that council approve the

1217
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:25,920
proceeding with the addition of the
purchase for cyber security insurance

1218
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:29,920
coverage with the liability amount of $2
million.

1219
01:51:27,119 --> 01:51:34,000
» All favor.
Uh bylaws no motion approve the

1220
01:51:32,239 --> 01:51:39,040
confirmatory bylaws. Sorry.
>> Move by council seconded by councel that

1221
01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:42,880
bylaw number 4709 being a bylaw to
confirm the proceedings of council be an

1222
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:45,440
accident that the fulfill be a fixed
there too and that the bylaw be signed

1223
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:50,080
by the mayor and clerk.
>> All in favor

1224
01:51:47,599 --> 01:51:53,760
carried motion to adjurnn.
Moved by council me seconded by

1225
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:58,280
councelor Dson that the meeting be
adjourned at 7:51 p.m.