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[0:28] » my Jason
[0:57] Instagram. Can I get some more?
Straight up. Bye.
[1:36] as well.
[1:59] » You stand in the planning.
[2:12] Thank you.
[3:35] We may stand.
>> We acknowledge and are honored to be on
[3:38] the land of the most great people. This
territory is covered by treaty n that
[3:42] was made and helped build this
community. We recognize the history of
[3:46] this land in its original stewards and
we commit to learning from them and
[3:50] working towards reconciliation.
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[4:26] agenda.
[4:39] » Moved by councelor, seconded by
councelor that the agenda be approved as
[4:43] amended.
>> All in favor?
[4:47] Great. declaration hearing interest and
general out
[4:53] seeing none we'll move right into
presentations and I believe we'll have
[4:56] to move to B because we don't have
Maddie here right now so
[5:02] » is Good that.
[5:23] Okay. So, our first presentation is a
food cycle presentation municipal food
[5:27] waste diversion program and we have
Maddie who's just joining us.
[5:32] Hello. Can you hear me? Okay.
>> So, Maddie, go ahead. The floor is
[5:37] yours.
>> Perfect. Thank you so much. I'll just
[5:39] share my screen.
[5:49] Okay, I believe you can see that. Okay.
So, good evening, mayor, members of
[5:55] council, and staff. Thank you for having
me. My name is Maddie from I am the uh
[6:00] programs account executive at food cycle
science and I'm here tonight to discuss
[6:03] a framework for sustainable food waste
management uh for the town of caps
[6:08] casing. So food cycle science is a proud
Canadian company and we're based in
[6:13] Ottawa Ontario. We were founded in 2011
by a team of engineers, scientists and
[6:18] food waste experts and we are just 100%
focused on food waste diversion
[6:22] solutions. And so to do that we've
created the food cyclare. Uh we provide
[6:27] our solution to the retail level. So you
can find us um in stores. We also
[6:32] partner with businesses, not for-profit
organizations, schools, and finally
[6:36] municipalities like yours, which is of
course the reason I'm here today talking
[6:40] to you. So to date, we've partnered with
more than 175 municipalities across
[6:47] Canada. We're in nine provinces and two
territories from rural uh remote and
[6:52] small communities to densely populated
cities helping them divert their food
[6:56] waste and save on waste management
costs. In Ontario, we have 110
[7:01] communities. So, it's our most populated
province of partnerships. Um and nearby
[7:06] to those municipalities that would be
closest would be um Cochran, Kirkland
[7:11] Lake, and Horn Plane.
So over the last few years, the issue
[7:17] surrounding food waste has become a
common topic of discussion for many
[7:20] reasons. Uh one of the reasons is that
when food waste is improperly disposed
[7:24] of in the landfill, it produces the
greenhouse gas methane. It produces so
[7:29] much methane that if worldwide food loss
and waste were actually a country, it
[7:33] would be the third highest greenhouse
gas emitting nation behind China and the
[7:37] US. So it's very substantial. And then
when we're talking about, you know,
[7:41] reducing our carbon footprint, really
food waste isn't something that we
[7:44] should be ignoring. It truly is the
lowhanging fruit to making an impact.
[7:49] And the solution is extremely simple and
it's right in front of us. You can buy
[7:53] less, you can use your leftovers, but
then when the time comes to dispose of
[7:57] what's left, you can do that properly.
So, how does this impact municipality
[8:02] like cap scing? Well, since food waste
makes up about half of household waste,
[8:07] it actually causes landfills to fill up
very quickly. Um, as you know, operating
[8:11] a landfill is very expensive for
municipality. And so, you do of course
[8:15] want to try and extend the lifespan for
as long as possible. Um, and then, you
[8:20] know, as mentioned, when organic waste
is put into the landfill, it produces
[8:23] methane gas. Uh and with the major focus
being put on our emissions, um reducing
[8:28] our food waste is going to be a priority
given it's a solvable challenge. We're
[8:33] seeing across Canada some provincial
governments are putting pressure on
[8:36] municipalities to implement source
separate organic programs and we do
[8:40] expect these pressures will just
increase. And then the community level
[8:44] food waste in the garbage means more
frequent collection trip collection uh
[8:48] or uh trips to the disposal site. It
also causes odors which is unpleasant
[8:53] for us of course but it's really
attractive for animals like bears and
[8:56] raccoons who do love to rubbish through
our trash and obviously that can cause
[9:00] some issues. So ultimately if we remove
food waste from the garbage we can
[9:04] eliminate all of these concerns and
greatly reduce the amount of waste in
[9:07] the community.
Now at this point I'm sure you're
[9:11] thinking yes this is a problem but
haven't you solved it already? And sure
[9:15] there are a few solutions out there. So
there's green bins which are common in
[9:18] big cities with high population density
and the right infrastructure. However,
[9:22] these can be cost prohibitive or
operationally challenging to implement
[9:26] especially in more rural or remote
areas. We also just see across the
[9:30] country green bins struggle to get high
participation rates. So it means they
[9:34] aren't necessarily solving the problem.
And then some people in your community
[9:38] might backyard compost. And I'm sure
we'd all agree this is really the ideal
[9:42] solution. Uh but unfortunately backyard
compost composting has some issues. It's
[9:47] not um feasible for everybody depending
on your living situation. It's not a
[9:51] year- round solution and there's still
the concern about it attracting bears
[9:55] and wildlife to your backyard. And then
finally, you could continue to put
[9:58] organic waste into the landfill, but as
mentioned, the long-term impacts are
[10:03] costly and harmful to the environment.
So with the food cyclinger, we make food
[10:08] waste easy to manage and do that right
in the home. Um, I think this is
[10:12] actually supposed to play. There we go.
Uh, so essentially, uh, the Food Cycle
[10:16] is just a kitchen appliance. It's about
the same size as an air fryer. It's
[10:19] really simple to use. You put your food
waste into the machine, push the button,
[10:23] and then in a matter of hours, uh, it's
been recycled. So, it handles all types
[10:28] of food waste, including dairy, meat,
bones, and pits. It can be used anywhere
[10:32] with a plug. So, most people will keep
it in their kitchen, but you could put
[10:35] it in a basement or a heated garage if
you had one. Each cycle takes about 4 to
[10:40] 8 hours to complete. So an overnight
cycle is the best time to run it. And it
[10:44] uses about 1 kilowatt hour of power,
which would cost about 10 to 15 cents
[10:49] per cycle. The resulting um end product
that you're left with is a nutrient-rich
[10:54] resource that has many beneficial um
uses, and I'll go over that in the next
[10:58] slide.
So um as I said, it's a nutrient-rich
[11:04] byproduct that you're left with. We call
it foodalizer. It's just your food waste
[11:08] that's been um reduced in weight and
volume, leaving it, you know, completely
[11:12] dry and an inert biomass, but still has
uses. So, you can add it to your garden
[11:17] soil right at home like a fertilizer.
You could add it to any type of backyard
[11:21] composting system. Um, it integrates
well into a leaf and yard waste system.
[11:26] You could drop it off at a compost site,
a local farm, community garden, or, you
[11:31] know, if you had a green bin, you can
add it to that. But there really are so
[11:34] many uses um for it. And um we at Food
Cycle Science will help your community
[11:39] figure out the best way to manage it as
well.
[11:42] So from an environmental standpoint,
when you look at the carbon footprint of
[11:45] the food cycler, the impact is really
clear. So over a 7-year period, which is
[11:50] about the lifespan, the food cycler has
a net negative carbon uh it has a carbon
[11:54] footprint. So the graph on the left
breaks down those emissions. And of
[11:58] course, there are some upfront emissions
that you encounter from manufacturing,
[12:02] energy use, and end of life disposal. Um
but these are far outweighed by the
[12:06] emissions that are avoided from food
waste just not ending up in the in the
[12:10] landfill. So it results in a net
negative carbon footprint. Um and that
[12:15] you can feel good about using this.
So in addition to the environmental
[12:19] impacts, the traditional method of
managing organic waste uh meaning a
[12:23] green bin or something similar um is a
heavily burdened system with costs at
[12:27] every step. But, you know, the food
cyclinger is a decentralized approach
[12:31] that avoids unnecessary additional costs
from um, you know, labor or greenhouse
[12:36] gas emissions from trucking an improper
food waste breakdown. Um, so the food
[12:40] waste that's created in the home can
just be managed right there in the home.
[12:45] Now, for residents, one of the b biggest
benefits we hear is how easy and clean
[12:49] the experience is. So, you know,
typically food waste is associated with
[12:52] an ick factor. Um, it's smelly, it's
wet, it's moldy, it creates a bit of a
[12:56] mess. But because the food cycler turns
it into a dry, sterile, and odorless end
[13:01] product, the ick factor is gone. So
you're not going to have smells from
[13:04] your uh kitchen garbage can anymore. But
of course, one of the best reasons or
[13:10] the best results of using the food
cyclinger is now there's just a lot less
[13:13] garbage going to the curb. So on
average, households are putting out
[13:17] about 35 less garbage bags per year um
as a result of using the food cyclinger.
[13:22] And so here's a photo I wanted to share.
It's um one of our residents in Ar Prior
[13:27] um sent this to us after using the food
cyclinger for a week. So it's just that
[13:30] little bag of garbage uh she was left
with at the end of the week. So made a
[13:34] big difference in her life.
So our food cyclinger program is an
[13:39] established and proven solution for food
waste management uh with the results to
[13:43] prove it. We have participation rates
over 90% um a recommendation rate of
[13:48] about 96% and then finally on average
households are diverting about 250 kg of
[13:55] food waste per year. So to put that into
perspective if every occupied household
[14:00] in capiscasing had a food cycler we can
estimate that you would divert about 947
[14:06] metric tons of food waste from your
landfill each year which is a a big big
[14:11] number. So, our med school programs uh
it begins with a 12-week pilot phase to
[14:17] test the viability of our solution in
your community before you consider maybe
[14:21] going full communitywide. Um so, how it
works is residents would sign up to
[14:26] receive a fully subsidized food
cyclinger from you um the municipality
[14:30] and then over 12 weeks they use their
food cyclinger at home and they track
[14:34] the number of cycles that they've ran um
each week. At the end, participants keep
[14:38] their food cyclinger and keep using it.
um we get them to submit that that data
[14:43] to us along with answering a few more
brief questions so we can measure the
[14:47] program success. We then compile all of
the results into a final report or a
[14:52] study, a feasibility study um and
present that back to you um along with
[14:56] staff so that we can you know evaluate
the program and make changes and plan
[15:01] for any future expansion.
So for the initial pilot I would
[15:06] recommend about a 100 household program.
I think that would be a great place to
[15:09] start and we would ideally start with
the Eco 3 because it's flexible. So, we
[15:14] have two models. The Eco 5, I believe,
is what your public works team is using.
[15:18] Um, we can, you know, chat about which
model would be best, but I think for the
[15:22] purposes of this, the Eco3, um, makes
most sense to start. So, if you fully
[15:27] subsidize 100 Eco3s, that would be an
investment of about $30,000 plus
[15:32] shipping and taxes. Um, but of course
this is just a starting point. So happy
[15:36] to chat more and figure out what would
be the best for your needs and your
[15:39] budget.
So included in that program uh with the
[15:44] pricing is our team support. And so I
think this is really where we stand out.
[15:48] You know, most programs don't fail
because of the tools, they fail because
[15:51] of adoption. Residents are confused and
small frustrations add up quickly. So we
[15:56] don't just drop off equipment and leave.
Um, we assign a dedicated program
[16:00] manager to your community and we provide
res ready readyto use communications.
[16:04] Um, and making sure that residents just
have everything they need to get started
[16:09] from day one. Um, we also do our best to
take uh staff like the workload off of
[16:14] staff's desk because we know
implementing a program like this is a
[16:17] lot of work. So, we're handling
troubleshooting questions, warranties
[16:21] questions, um, just making sure that
your staff don't have to um, do any of
[16:26] that. Uh and so yeah, I would welcome
the town of Capus casing as a partner in
[16:31] the fight against food waste as I think
your community would be a great fit for
[16:34] this uh the benefits of this program.
All I ask is my presentation uh be
[16:38] accepted as information and if there's
any interest in partnering with us on a
[16:42] pilot program that you refer to staff
for a report and recommendation.
[16:47] So thank you so much. I'll stop sharing
my screen and I'm happy to answer any
[16:51] questions.
>> Thanks Mandy for the presentation. I
[16:54] believe we received presentation on this
probably about three two three years
[16:59] ago. Um and uh I'm not sure if it was
yourself but thanks for coming back and
[17:04] not forgetting about us. Are there any
questions from the table? Go ahead.
[17:09] » If the landfill site is using the
methane for uh generating energy, does
[17:17] that methane count as excess methane?
Uh if well it depends on what kind of
[17:24] system but um if they were using the
methane to like a gas capture kind of
[17:29] landfill I think that wouldn't count as
a methane excess methane but
[17:35] » that's not detrimental that methane is
not detrimental to the entire it's being
[17:40] burned and used for energy.
>> Yes, I think that's the point. Yeah. Of
[17:43] a gas capture. Yeah.
Thank you.
[17:50] » Thank you very much for the uh for the
presentation. Um just just a couple
[17:56] questions. One financial but also one uh
more technical about the logistics of
[18:02] the use of the uh of the device. Um one
of the other I backyard compost and do
[18:10] it year round even cap spacing and and
uh find a way to make it work. But one
[18:16] of the I think the primary frustration I
have is when you do not have access to
[18:20] the compost for many many many years.
What is the turnaround time to generate
[18:25] usable compost with this particular
device?
[18:29] » Yeah. Oh, that's a great question. I
wish I had a number off the top of my
[18:32] head, but I it I don't I think it's I
have the answer in um a soil amendment
[18:39] guide. So, we've created a resource that
we can use, but it does turn around
[18:42] quicker because you're shrinking the
size of the food waste. So, it's just
[18:46] really small particles. Um, it does help
your backyard composter get up to speed
[18:51] faster and then turn around quicker. So,
yeah, you're not going to be waiting
[18:55] months. It would be like years. It would
be like uh maybe 3 months, but I can
[19:00] actually get you the numbers and I'll
send you that guide as well so you can
[19:03] look at it.
>> Okay, perfect. Thank you. Um the other
[19:08] the other question I had was you you
threw out a figure around um saying for
[19:14] capacics specifically if everyone in
town were to use this device to divert
[19:19] the food waste from the landfill be
about let's say thousand tons to make it
[19:23] uh simple. Um, do you have supporting
information or um, uh, spreadsheets or
[19:32] model uh, modeled information that can
be used to calculate uh, cost benefit in
[19:37] terms of
>> um, the the saved uh, capital cost in
[19:43] terms of deferring the need to expand or
build a new uh, landfill to support
[19:48] staff to uh, to uh, do an analysis to
show the the benefit on a life cycle
[19:54] basis of such an advice.
>> Yes. Yeah, we do. That's a great
[19:57] question and so I'm happy to work with
staff on that. We've created um a
[20:00] calculator using um it wasn't created by
us. It was a third party um
[20:05] environmental consultant um called
Cambium. So they put together a
[20:09] calculator um so that we can you know
talk to municipalities, get waste data
[20:13] and then figure out what you know that's
going to look like in terms of the ROI
[20:17] of um for a landfill. So happy to do
that if there is interest.
[20:23] » Perfect. Thank you.
>> All right. Any other questions? Bruce,
[20:27] » happy to date any restaurant. Yeah,
please.
[20:31] » So, the units that we that I was talking
about today are too small for
[20:35] restaurants. Um, but we are in the
process of developing a larger unit that
[20:39] would be applicable for restaurants. So,
it would cycle about 75 L of food waste
[20:44] per day.
[20:48] » What about grocery stores also?
Yeah. So, the unit that the 75 L is a
[20:54] little bit too small for grocery stores.
I mean, it depends on the size of the
[20:57] grocery store, but um we currently don't
have one that is that size.
[21:02] » Okay. Thank you very much.
>> Thank you.
[21:04] » Any other questions?
>> All right. Well, thanks very much,
[21:08] Maddie, for your presentation and uh
we'll take it in for information. We'll
[21:12] get back to you if there's interest.
>> Thank you so much for having me. Hope
[21:15] you have a great rest of your meeting.
>> You as well.
[21:22] All right. Now we have a presentation
from East Link. Um, and we have a Amanda
[21:27] in the audience. So for yours, Amanda,
>> evening
[21:33] for the opportunity for being able to
present in front of all of you this
[21:36] evening. So East Lake is very excited uh
that we have launched mobile services
[21:41] here in Spacing. Uh, it's a long time
coming. So uh, we are very excited about
[21:46] this upcoming launch. So, we're going to
go through a few things uh with this
[21:50] launch and what this means for our
customers here in the community.
[21:56] So, we're going to go through what is
the East Link mobile network, uh what
[22:01] our launch plans look like, and how we
plan on showing up.
[22:07] So, East Link is a mobile network. It's
a virtual mobile network. So the way
[22:13] that this works with MBNO, which is a
footage term that you'll hear me uh
[22:17] using throughout this, is a mobile
virtual network is where we purchase the
[22:22] ability to essentially resell services
uh on the existing national platforms
[22:27] that are available from Telos. So
Eastlink is able to operate as a mobile
[22:32] virtual network operator in this case
here in County Spacy, which means that
[22:36] we can operate without building our own
home towers for the first seven years.
[22:40] Through that time, over that span of
seven years, we're taking the revenue
[22:44] that is brought in from the mobile
customers and reinvesting and building
[22:48] our own towers in the community as well.
So over the seven years, there is an
[22:52] investment into the community. That's
how the program works. And the design
[22:56] behind this and the reasoning behind MDO
in the first place and why the
[23:00] government has allowed this to happen
through CRTC is that it allows more
[23:04] competition within the community, which
means consumers get a better price. So
[23:08] it helps drive down price on your
telecommunication services which is what
[23:12] the government and CRTC is looking for
out of this program. So the way that
[23:17] this works as well uh we can actually go
to the next slide. Sorry.
[23:22] So we are launching uh it was
anticipated that we would launch at the
[23:26] end of June. We actually launched on
Tuesday July 7th. So mobile is now
[23:31] available here in the community. Uh, I
will be set up at Model City Mall this
[23:36] week and we will be able to answer
questions for any of our customers here
[23:41] in town. Not even only on the mobile
side, but also our existing customers.
[23:45] Over the last little while, there's been
an investment in the community, not only
[23:48] from the mobile standpoint, but we've
also upgraded our services in the
[23:52] community. Max speed used to be 350
megabytes speed. Now, we offer gig
[23:56] service in cap. So, that's very exciting
and it's a big investment on East Simp's
[24:01] part.
on.
[24:07] So the timeline was a little bit
different. It was anticipated that we
[24:10] were going to launch in June. We would
presented in June. Uh now everything
[24:14] kind of lines up with a a big week in
July. So uh we've also done um obviously
[24:20] this presentation we're here in the
community this week uh and doesn't add
[24:25] all. And we have also agreed to do a
sponsorship for Catholics this coming
[24:31] weekend which is obviously a fun and
exciting initiative here in the
[24:34] community. We've done the event before
and it was a lot of fun to get to talk
[24:38] to some of our customers
moving forward in the fall. Uh
[24:42] anticipating that we would be here on a
quarterly basis set up so that people
[24:46] have a place that they can actually come
to and ask questions about their bill,
[24:50] about services, about mobile services.
And that's kind of the plan that we take
[24:55] with these MBN launches. So we've now
launched MBNO in uh Elliot Lake, Blind
[25:01] River, Cochran, and Cascading.
[25:07] So as I said, this is how we plan on
showing up. So cap phrase, the the idea
[25:11] behind how we do this is always that we
want to be present in the community.
[25:16] It's not a, you know, come into town, we
launch mobile services, get out and then
[25:21] not come back again. The idea is to
maintain that momentum and continue
[25:25] being present in the community. We have
representatives that work in this
[25:29] community uh and that are proud to
represent the Eastland brand. So that
[25:33] will continue.
And then obviously with spreading the
[25:37] word being able to in front of all of
you is part of that. and then any type
[25:42] of uh local media. So whether that's
paid advertising through Facebook uh and
[25:47] through Meta, those are things that we
do in order to be able to get the word
[25:51] out that mobile services are launching.
Each of our customers uh would have
[25:55] received an email as well from our
marketing team indicating uh that mobile
[25:59] services are launching. It allows them
to be able to bundle their services
[26:03] which actually lowers their bill. So
it's an exciting opportunity for
[26:07] customers here. Now our team as well
will be present. So, I'll be here as
[26:11] well as one of our uh representatives
and we'll be able to answer those
[26:15] questions that come up from consumers.
Other than that, that is pretty much it
[26:20] in a nutshell. We just wanted to be able
to represent the company and be able to
[26:24] proudly announce that his mobile
services are now available in caps.
[26:30] » Well, thank you very much, Amanda, and
welcome to our community, and again,
[26:32] thank you for the sponsorship, Capra.
Much appreciated. Are there any
[26:36] questions uh for anybody? Go ahead. Um,
thank you for the presentation. I was
[26:41] just curious, so other than coming this
week to the mall, do you guys plan on
[26:46] having a physical office here on the
mall? So, at the moment, no. But that
[26:51] doesn't mean that things will change.
So, as basically the company continues
[26:55] to grow and we continue to be able to
offer more products that are available
[26:58] to consumers, the the writing is on the
wall of expansion continuing without
[27:04] with the company. So over time, yes, I
can see that potentially happening down
[27:09] the road. As of right now, our plan is
to continue to come on a quarterly basis
[27:14] from a sales perspective, but also be
able to answer any questions at any
[27:18] time. Uh I've had communication with
some members of uh the team here at the
[27:24] city or at the town and I've been able
to have great discussions with them. So
[27:28] now it just opens up further
opportunities for us.
[27:31] » Okay. Thank you. Thank you.
Thanks very much for the presentation
[27:36] and just a question about the cost model
or service model uh east might be
[27:42] pursuing as compared to some of the
other providers. Is it the is the
[27:45] attempt to uh and maybe it's contained
by the infrastructure you you lease or
[27:51] or or purchase on? Will you be uh in the
the same vein as a as a Bell or a Telus
[27:59] in terms of um higher price point uh
products and plans or is the intent to
[28:06] be a discount service um you know like
the uh like a smaller niche provider? I
[28:12] think FHO might be an example of of
something where you can offer people who
[28:16] don't have the demand for uh unlimited
features who want something uh smaller
[28:22] and more affordable.
>> What's absolutely so great question uh
[28:26] the idea is always that we are going to
lead the market. So we want to make sure
[28:31] that uh the price point that we're
coming to the table at is very
[28:35] competitive. part of FBNO the process
with FNO is that it drives down actually
[28:40] that price amongst competitors as well
because when we're able to come in and
[28:45] sell that product uh the same product
that other teleos are are selling for a
[28:50] reduced price point that helps bring
down that cost overall. So, as an
[28:55] example, when we launch MBNO, the plans
that are available can start as low as
[29:00] 20 gigs of data and then they can go up
as high as uh 60 to 80 gigs. And in
[29:05] those plans, they're all rollover data
as well. So, consumers are able anything
[29:09] that's unused will roll over to the
following month and continue to build
[29:13] for them as well. So, uh the plans are
very competitive. Plans range in about
[29:19] the $50 mark for a full service plan.
Uh, and then there's also savings that
[29:24] are available. If you are an existing
ESLink customer, you will save on your
[29:28] WLAN services as well. There's a $10
discount on your Wland services.
[29:34] » Thank you.
>> Welcome.
[29:38] » Thank you very much for your
presentation.
[29:40] » Thank you very much.
[29:45] » All right. Uh, moving right to start
with the finance announcer Dennis.
[29:50] » Yeah. The first item is a request to
fers the insurance recommendation by
[29:55] council approve addition of serial
security insurance coverage coalition
[30:00] obtained through the council broker
broker link at an individual criminal
[30:05] cost of $10,31
purpose of this report recommend that
[30:11] cashing add cyber security insurance
coverage to existing program and qualify
[30:18] financial protection start related to
incidents and technology based business.
[30:24] Um are there any questions or comments
on that? I think I thought we already
[30:28] had it but then um yeah what what's the
deductible and coverage on on this?
[30:38] I don't remember the deductible any
we received it just
[30:59] » I thought the same thing as you so when
cars
[31:02] » there's there's minimal coverage right
now but let's say you had an incident
[31:06] that you know 10,000
Your insurance premium is not a lot if
[31:12] you ever get a cyber attack.
>> I've been through it with another
[31:14] corporation. Although that's that's
cheap because it costs a lot more
[31:18] » pay the rent.
>> But from with your experience, you
[31:21] figure this is a good deal.
>> Absolutely.
[31:30] » Well, the aggregate cost. So the land is
2 million.
[31:34] » It's what million is there? 2 million
and up. That's uh I know I've heard
[31:40] there are some companies that have had
to go and pay Bitcoin and all that just
[31:46] 2 million is not a lot. When you're
talking
[31:51] and see if a little bit additional maybe
a little bit additional would cost that
[31:55] much more
>> maybe like the $5 million coverage.
[32:01] What's our what would be like how do you
assess exposure to uh a cyber security
[32:06] is it in terms of
>> in terms of what the the risk is
[32:10] » I think once we do uh purchase the uh
the insurance they do a lot of testing
[32:17] and and actual
>> um
[32:21] I'm lost words here scenarios where they
will test our systems to see if we have
[32:27] any weaknesses that could be prone to
cyber attacks. Uh, and they will
[32:32] continue testing on a regular basis. Uh,
>> and they'll send you information. Don't
[32:38] » That's right. So, they do a full
analysis they did and and they check
[32:41] everything from pay to receiving
uh electronic uh transfers to just our
[32:50] emails, anything that's technology
based. So, we have a large
[32:56] infrastructure of technology. So I think
this is the right step to go to and and
[33:01] it will be tested. Our fire will
probably be tested on a regular basis at
[33:07] the same time which we already do but
the the insurance provider will do that.
[33:13] The the other thing that would be
perhaps just like any other insurance is
[33:18] to understand how much effort that goes
into prevention uh could reduce premiums
[33:25] or reduce the obligation to pay
deductibliedness by having certain
[33:30] policies in place certain protections in
place.
[33:34] » Exactly. Uh so understanding how much
flexibility there is to um to control uh
[33:40] how how much we we you have to pay for
such a a protection is would be good to
[33:45] understand as well. uh Northern Ontario
wires is going through this uh this
[33:51] effort there's a I mean it's regulated
where uh small utilities because of the
[33:56] exposure these attacks affecting um the
electrical distribution network are
[34:01] putting in a lot of effort to uh to uh
to to minimize any any such uh event
[34:08] from preventing electricity that's why I
was asking
[34:12] » from our standpoint what is the impact
of shutting down wastewater treatment or
[34:16] shutting the drinking water system as a
result of an attack. I suspect it's like
[34:21] the impact could be in the millions. So,
it's
[34:24] » probably pretty important to
>> I think that my recommendation would be
[34:27] start with this
insurance premium now and do the risk
[34:33] management the testing to see if we do
have some vulner vulnerabilities
[34:37] anywhere. So then after that we can
tailor the the coverage that we need.
[34:42] Any idea what the cost would be to cover
those vulnerabilities to correct them?
[34:46] There's probably some cost involved with
that.
[34:49] » Yeah, I don't have an idea.
>> Not much. May not only be the premium,
[34:52] but they come in and say, "Well, you got
to do this, do that,
[34:55] » can make it easily add another $20,000,
but I don't."
[34:59] » Yeah. So, we won't know until we do the
>> assessment, they exercise on the
[35:04] assessment to know what our risks are.
>> I know the hospital went through this.
[35:09] Uh
>> that's what
[35:11] » yeah about 3 4 years ago maybe maybe
>> it was pretty uh intense really tough.
[35:15] » I bet you they'd love to have paid that
>> our insurance did uh come up with uh bit
[35:21] of the money which was good. Out of
pocket I believe was uh the hospital was
[35:26] almost $2 million
>> and the rest was covered. It was all
[35:30] through bitcoin. It was all rushing out.
So
[35:32] » they had some of the personal
information from uh some people. So this
[35:38] will make the recommendation we go ahead
with that. Um second item is for
[35:42] information correspondence from ministry
of municipal affairs housing changes to
[35:47] strong mayor framework recommendation
that council received the correspondence
[35:50] from ministry of municipal affairs and
rehousing regarding some changes to the
[35:55] strong mayor framework as as
information. the town
[36:01] correspondent waited June 23rd 26 from
the honorable
[36:07] » uh black uh minister of minister affairs
and housing regarding some changes to
[36:14] the strong framework that is that
regulatory amendments have been made to
[36:18] the building regulation 53rd/22 under
the municipal act 2011 these amendments
[36:25] come to force June 22nd 2046 six and
apply to Trump mayor Mis. Any questions
[36:32] or comments on that?
>> Not related to this one. I did have one
[36:36] more I just remembered I wanted to ask
about the previous item. Uh and it was
[36:41] just whether the the insurance cost was
going to be a 20 26 budget line item or
[36:48] uh for future
>> 2026.
[36:51] » It will be a 206 add.
>> Yeah.
[36:55] » Our premium starts out with July 1st.
>> Okay. So you have half of the year and
[36:59] half the others to really
>> So it's only it's only a $5,000 increase
[37:04] add-on for 2020. Okay. Thank you.
[37:11] Report. There's no other questions.
>> All right. Plate services council
[37:17] Newton.
>> I have one for tonight. Mr. Mayor for
[37:20] information letter from Minister
Ministry of Municipal Affairs and
[37:24] Housing Amendments Parkland dedication
regulation
[37:29] recommendation. The council received the
correspondence from the Ministry
[37:34] of Municipal Affairs and Housing
regarding amendments to Ontario
[37:38] regulation 509/20
community benefits charges and apartment
[37:44] land as information
and John would you want to put that face
[37:49] on this one?
>> Yeah. Um basically the government it's
[37:54] one of their many amenities to the plan
that help streamline development housing
[37:58] development uh basically created in
Frank allows developers uh the
[38:03] opportunity to propose lands that be
dedicated to for parkland versus
[38:08] municipal planning um professionals that
would kind of dictate where they're
[38:14] giving you more of an opportunity to
developers to
[38:20] recommend something that may not be as
suitable for um development but such as
[38:25] easements or
restrictions. Uh maybe you could
[38:30] dedicate that instead of using clients
plan. You also have to have uh an
[38:35] opportunity for a kill process that land
tribunal and you also um if it's right
[38:42] uh there's some u
[38:48] notice noticing and um
[38:53] sorry
to the case
[38:58] required to do that now. So we'll have
to review our official plans in the
[39:02] process of being uh
uh the draft. So we'll have to make sure
[39:07] that any provisions that are in the
official plan would likely change the
[39:11] plan or dedication part. We'll have to
review the extend process procedures and
[39:17] also our site control make sure that
[39:22] identification is uh reflected and also
um
[39:29] sorry I lost I guess my apologies the
heat the heat
[39:35] and also we don't actually have a
frontline meditation bylaw so we have
[39:39] policies and provisions within our plan
of the new filing capac doesn't actually
[39:43] have that dialogue aligning to how our
clients think you. So in the event that
[39:50] we do um decide to move forward with
this because we have a PL sub division
[39:54] that's establishing itself and we want
to designate X amount of land for a park
[39:59] we have to come up with a
[40:04] question
[40:09] any questions on this
be it for myself.
[40:12] » All right thanks C Newton protective
service and emergency management counc
[40:17] » thank you Mr. May there um four items on
the agenda
[40:22] for the committee. The the first is a
for information item is the fire
[40:26] department left a report for June. Um
trusting u everyone had a chance to read
[40:34] it. Highlights are just that there were
15 calls in in June including a
[40:39] structural fire and a scrapard fire that
destroyed 23 vehicles and 84 calls here
[40:44] to date. And uh the NFPA um course for
pump operator training is uh 85%
[40:52] complete. Uh was there highlights uh
from my perspective? Not that they
[40:58] built.
>> No, you you were you were right. Uh
[41:04] yeah, we we did respond to two major
incident. Uh like you read uh we did
[41:11] respond to a scrapyard fire that
destroyed 23 cars. Uh it was out of town
[41:18] but because we signed an agreement few
months ago with the province uh this
[41:24] fire we're going to be able to recoup
the cost of this fire. Okay. Um
[41:30] and I'm pretty happy that uh most of the
staff did complete their pump operator
[41:36] course. Everyone that was registered to
the course took the did complete the
[41:40] course and the testing we had issue with
the testing with the scheduling the
[41:46] testing and the testing will be done in
August. We just received I think it's
[41:50] last week the confirmation from the
province
[41:54] that to be honest uh June was a month
>> question on the covering for the the
[42:03] fire outside the town. You said we will
be reimbursed at what rate of pay?
[42:09] » Uh almost $600 per hour
>> 200
[42:14] » six
>> 600 $600
[42:18] » per truck
[42:21] and what's that?
>> Say uh it's the office of fire marshall
[42:26] that's going to reimburse us.
>> Okay.
[42:29] » Yeah.
>> Is that
[42:32] enough?
it to be honest because of the cost the
[42:37] because of the capital cost of our
pumper uh it will never be enough man
[42:43] it's it's a starting point
[42:49] » so to top of my head uh for this fire
top of my head
[42:56] I think we're going to be able to recoup
around $8,000
[43:12] Thank you very much.
>> Perfect.
[43:16] » Any other questions or the report?
>> All right. Uh next item on the agenda is
[43:24] um just to report on levels of service
for interventions outside of casing
[43:32] limits.
Um this is for council discussion and
[43:36] consideration. Uh there are two
recommendations.
[43:41] Recommendation number one recommended
that municipal council give
[43:45] consideration to continue to allow the
CAP fire department to respond outside
[43:49] municipal boundaries of the town of CAP
in accordance with its operational
[43:53] procedure ops 34 out of town boundaries
response that was developed by the fire
[43:58] department.
And the recommendation number two is
[44:01] recommended that council enter into a
mutual aid and automatic aid agreements
[44:07] with the following municipalities.
Township of Valita Hardy, Township of
[44:11] Obisatica, Township of Bloom Beam,
Township of Folk Strickland, Township of
[44:16] Rock Falls, Town of Hurst, Town of
Coffin, Township of Matis Balote.
[44:23] Um, automatic aid agreements would allow
a town of Cap to continue providing
[44:28] expectation services within the
municipality of the town of Tohovatica
[44:33] and the municipality of the township of
Belita Cardi.
[44:37] And recommendation number three, it is
recommended that council make the
[44:42] necessary representations to the
government of Ontario to obtain support
[44:45] for the indirect costs incurred by the
town of Cath for interventions outside
[44:49] its territorial bound boundaries, excuse
me, as outlined in the attached report.
[45:03] question. Um the automatic agreements
will allow town cap to continue
[45:09] providing extra services within the news
township of San Township.
[45:16] Why only those two
>> because the has its own and so does
[45:22] » okay
>> it's exactly that.
[45:26] » Okay.
Um
[45:31] » can I can I add one thing to this?
[45:37] actually these two municipality doesn't
have any extrication tools and I don't
[45:42] know since when but for years and years
we do respond uh on these two
[45:48] municipalities uh for extrication
and it's just to um
[45:54] signing automatic automatic aid
agreement it's it's just to uh make sure
[46:00] that we have the proper uh agreement in
place because extrication it's a
[46:06] municipal responsibility. It's not a
provincial responsibility. Currently we
[46:12] do that as good corporate citizen, good
neighbor. Uh but it's a local
[46:18] municipality responsibility. So if we
sign a automatic agreement with them,
[46:23] that's mean when they when an
election happen in these two
[46:29] municipalities, we're going to get
called. We're going to respond as we do
[46:33] today, but uh the local township will
claim the province and we will be able
[46:41] to recoup this amount.
Okay. And yeah, this is one of the
[46:47] reason
>> but but the town the municipality will
[46:51] only reimburse reimburse us the amount
that the provinces province allows.
[46:56] » Exactly. What if what if those costs are
a lot higher? Uh I see you go there and
[47:03] there's an employee suffers and it's on
weekly redundancy for years and years
[47:09] and years. Who picks up that bill?
>> It's the
[47:17] the other cost that the town of CA could
get over the years.
[47:27] If it's that it's my recommendation
number three, uh because the amount of
[47:32] the province that's going to pay the
local township and the local township
[47:37] will reimburse us will to be honest, it
will never be enough. So recommendation
[47:43] number three, we have to do proper uh
the proper we have to do representation
[47:48] the province to uh
increase the cost uh the amount that
[47:54] they would pay
or it's something that we we could stop
[48:00] doing it.
[48:06] » All right, please. Um, but don't you
think the the leverage we have here is
[48:11] in is in the in stopping doing it? I
mean, if if our fear is that our own
[48:18] members are, you know, could could could
be dangerously affected by an
[48:22] extrication in a neighboring community,
our leverage to the province is, you
[48:27] know, there we can't do it for 600
bucks. That's not and so we're going to
[48:32] stop doing it. And in the stopping doing
it, maybe places like Oakadic and
[48:38] Valerita can maybe get a grant to
purchase their own extrication equipment
[48:41] and then maybe have uh those services
within their own community and we're not
[48:46] necessarily affected by by the
extrication of of people out of a
[48:52] vehicle and that we we experience more
and more going forward. So I think I
[48:57] think honestly the solution to it would
be to pull out of it to say, "Hey, we're
[49:02] going to operate these services within
our own community because that's what we
[49:06] pay for. Those are the services we
provide to our own community and um if
[49:12] if something does happen within our
community, then we know what we're we're
[49:16] up against. But, you know, if we're
responding to motor vehicle uh accidents
[49:19] along the highway everywhere and it's
increasing at uh dramatic pace until
[49:26] there is plenty of highway 11, I don't
know what you know what it's going to
[49:29] look like in the future, but certainly
wouldn't that be the the ideal situation
[49:33] we want to reflect to the government.
I just
[49:39] » uh the only thing I can say
[49:47] deep
[49:54] because they were responding in Ed Clara
and Mariam and Spalty between Mawa and
[50:00] Deep River and did it stop and the
province did nothing about that nothing.
[50:07] So if you're driving now between Madawa
and Deep River
[50:13] east of Biset Creek to Deep River,
uh now it's fixed because Ranchil took
[50:19] over but for probably two three years
it's probably more h it has no
[50:26] extrication services and the province
didn't do anything because that was a
[50:31] mun responsibility.
[50:36] It's a topic that
>> I find the liability I find the
[50:39] liability for the blue spelling is risk
is too high. It could be very very
[50:46] expensive. It may never happen. There is
a certain amount of of risk there. The
[50:50] other thing is what do we do with the
other villages the other towns the ones
[50:55] that we do have in
no there's
[51:03] » okay the other town. Okay. So
recommendation number two has two topics
[51:09] okay one it's for edificucation for
valarity and foracetica
[51:15] okay this is for education but the other
topic too is about automatic aid for
[51:21] water shuttle okay
outside of
[51:26] the the area protected by hydrants and
also it's to conclude mutual agreement
[51:32] which we don't have uh with any
municipality
[51:36] when we need more resources on scene for
working fire, structural fire. Okay. Uh
[51:44] down south uh to be honest, most of the
municipality they have both type of
[51:49] agreements in order to subsidize
uh the additional resources when it's
[51:55] needed.
I I will give you just a quick example.
[52:00] Okay, for a house fire in meal 20
regular bungaloo, okay, when it's fully
[52:09] involved, okay, we need an average 400
gallon of water per minute. Okay, our
[52:16] tanker truck, we have one tanker, can
shuttle between 80 to 110 gallon per
[52:24] minute. So we're we need more water each
time we have a working fire outside of
[52:31] the uh the area protected by
addressance. Okay, it's why we need
[52:37] automatic agreement for water shuttle
and mutual aid agreement for staffing.
[52:45] So recommendation number two has two
different meanings here.
[52:52] Oops.
>> Number two, uh, if you're starting to
[52:56] travel down the burst and conquer,
that's long distances,
[53:01] very long distance. I've traveled them
35 years, seen a lot of accidents along
[53:06] the highways. Now you're really opening
up a can of orders for them. We at night
[53:12] time, early morning, late night remove
everything like that. It's a high risk.
[53:19] » Okay. Uh have we ever thought about
using local contractors? They all have
[53:23] garbage pay
everyone.
[53:27] Why can't we use them?
[53:31] » A few thing about that. Okay. Few thing
about that. First of all, mobile
[53:35] contractor. Yes, they could have water
tanker. The tank it's normally too big
[53:41] to do fire
>> water shuttle. Okay. Because in order to
[53:46] fire a shuttle, a tank should be between
1500 to 2,000 gallon. Larger than that,
[53:52] that will screw up the water shuttle
process. This is the first thing. Okay.
[53:58] For in term of mutual aid, as an
example, okay, I think it's two months
[54:03] ago, Earth had a major fire downtown.
Okay. They needed more resources. not f
[54:09] not right from the get-go for what 3 4
hours later after the fire started. So
[54:16] time in in this case time it's not in
the essence okay last in 2024 we were
[54:24] called in Cochran and we went in Cochran
okay it's sometime it's just to provide
[54:31] additional resources to because the
local resources need to rest need a
[54:36] break it's the reason why so the
distance sometime it's not really the
[54:44] main priority it's to be able to do some
staffing rotation.
[54:51] » Well, we have enough staff to rotate on
our end protecting our account
[54:58] » at no time. At no time, we will leave we
will we will let uh the community
[55:07] without proper fire protection at no
time. And if we're called I don't know
[55:13] in I don't know in in matise for to
provide support and we can't we don't
[55:19] have enough resources at that time sorry
we can't go it's not an obligation we're
[55:25] not obliged to
[55:29] but it's us that we have the most
uh number of working fires per years on
[55:37] the highway 11. So
sometime we could re we could request a
[55:42] bit more than they will we will provide.
[55:56] Mutual aid agreement.
[56:18] I think we're doing that right now. Um,
so and um
[56:24] » what what does what does it entail for
capis casing to become to to enter into
[56:29] an agreement of mutual aid?
[56:35] » So they they will help us and we in turn
will help them. I think we're already
[56:39] doing that.
>> So I I don't know why we need the
[57:02] Okay. All these things are written in a
mutual agreement. Okay. So, okay.
[57:18] Okay.
[57:30] Okay.
[57:36] Exist
support in in the exceptional case.
[57:43] It's the reason why. Okay.
[57:54] » One one of the other reasons for
formalizing
[57:57] um an agreement in this is otherwise
there's nothing necessarily ensuring
[58:03] that there is a commitment to receive
aid or to provide aid. So organizations
[58:09] will if you're evaluating someone's
emergency response capability and you
[58:14] say well we we count on this company or
this town to provide us uh response
[58:21] services. Okay. How do you know they're
going to come? we have a mutual
[58:26] agreement and insurance companies will
rely on that um to say okay you can you
[58:32] can say you have this additional support
potentially to help you respond to in
[58:37] the absence of it being formal so I
don't think you can just to say that
[58:41] something has happened or we're doing it
anyway outside of an agreement isn't
[58:45] necessarily something that can be relied
on their insurance benefits to being
[58:48] able to say you have a breed
that's another reason for listen not
[58:55] example Okay.
[59:00] Okay.
[59:05] Okay. That was a commercial building
downtown. Okay. Threetory building.
[59:13] Okay.
[59:22] Cat pumper. that that they were flowing
water 80 firefighter on scene. Okay. For
[59:28] 24 hours. How can I with our current
resources? How can I get 80
[59:34] firefighters? Totally impossible. How
can I get four pumpers? Totally
[59:38] impossible.
[59:44] Planning in case of a fire for 31 Queen
Street right behind uh I think it's CIBC
[59:52] Bank. Okay.
[59:57] Three pumpers. I think it's 30ish or 40
firefighters.
[1:00:03] Okay. As with and I can't justify you. I
can't justify I cannot justify to you to
[1:00:10] have a department with three pumpers,
50, 60 firefighters. The cost will be a
[1:00:17] astronomical for one fire, three or five
fires per years. No, I prefer paying
[1:00:24] each time mutual aid. And by the same
token, we we're going to save money
[1:00:31] because we're not required to have a
huge department.
[1:00:40] » Is there any question?
>> So, so you you mentioned that that um in
[1:00:46] the mutual aid agreement uh WSID is
written into that. So, you you're
[1:00:50] covered under WSIB. Correct.
>> Wait. Yeah. Wait.
[1:00:55] » So why wouldn't you be able to have the
same kind of uh arrangements around uh
[1:01:01] extrication?
>> A very good question.
[1:01:17] It's negotiation.
So we can negotiate that with the other
[1:01:22] the other municipalities.
It's all about negotiation.
[1:01:29] I just want to remind you that in ext if
we go back to the extra extrication
[1:01:36] topic
[1:01:39] profile extrication
[1:01:44] it's going to cost between $50 to
$75,000
[1:01:49] just for the equipment. the initial
training would be around $20,000
[1:01:55] plus the skills maintenance.
So it's very expensive. So for smaller
[1:02:00] municipalities, it's probably better to
conclude an agreement with us. Uh and
[1:02:07] just uh having us responding when it's
required.
[1:02:16] Go ahead. Are all the other
municipalities are they all included
[1:02:21] already?
>> No, they're not equipped for
[1:02:25] extrication. You're talking doing a
motor vehicle extrication. If it's that
[1:02:30] they're not equipped with fire, any fire
or anything like that.
[1:02:36] » They have pumpers and they have tankers.
Some has only a pumper, some as boat.
[1:02:44] » All right. Bruce, does your question
relate to are they in favor of agreeing
[1:02:48] to us?
>> I want to guess
[1:02:55] open
[1:03:00] just
[1:03:04] my recommendation number two is to start
a discussion with other municipalities.
[1:03:16] No.
>> So this is I guess strategic is to one
[1:03:21] enter into or open the discussion to uh
enter into appropriate agreements to
[1:03:28] there is negotiation with those
agreements too if there especially uh
[1:03:31] when it comes to cost like the
extreation. So there is uh there can be
[1:03:35] a question of what is the appropriate
compensation to supplement what we would
[1:03:40] get from the province by doing it
outside the municipal boundaries. And
[1:03:43] three, the third recommendation is to
pursue appropriate compensation either
[1:03:48] through the province or some other
arrangement uh through the agreement if
[1:03:53] it can be
[1:04:00] you bring to us the example of the
mutual aid agreement that the WSID of
[1:04:07] the other municipality covers our
firefighters.
[1:04:13] I saw both. I saw the two types. I saw
that the local municipality when they go
[1:04:21] and support the other municipality
assume their own WSIB responsibility and
[1:04:26] I saw that it's the other municipality
that could assume I saw both. Okay. But
[1:04:32] again, it's negotiation.
[1:04:36] have a hard time to how do you put
somebody from one payroll to another
[1:04:40] payroll and telling them under WSID? I
just don't understand
[1:04:45] what you're saying and I think it's a
good idea. It's just a recording.
[1:04:53] » I never saw in action when
the local municipality wanted to charge
[1:04:59] the other one. I never for WS universa
but I just saw the written ones.
[1:05:05] Okay.
>> A copy of the written one.
[1:05:09] » I don't have a any copy with me now.
>> No no but
[1:05:16] » one of the one of the ways in which
one of the ways in which I think it
[1:05:20] would work is similar to u say for
example I think of of the mill huge
[1:05:25] individuals with procurement of hot
services.
[1:05:29] uh or any corporate uh corporation doing
so, you want to ensure that the the
[1:05:33] company you are hiring has WSAB coverage
is in good standing with WSIB.
[1:05:38] Alternatively, if if depending on the
size of them or if they're just scaling
[1:05:43] up a new uh a startup, they may not have
that kind of uh administrative
[1:05:49] infrastructure in place and you can come
you can say you can fall under our WSID
[1:05:54] cover. So, so one organization submits
the claim and allows it to be done for
[1:05:58] an injured worker.
>> Something like that.
[1:06:00] » Something like that is how I could see
it working. I don't know if it applies
[1:06:05] to each day before you don't
die. Now, who's going to be here? like
[1:06:10] if if I'm negotiating a contract, I
would be thinking, all right, if we go
[1:06:15] to respond in your community and support
uh an emergency response incident,
[1:06:20] uh would you cover if there is a an
injury up to including a delayed PTSD
[1:06:26] response, something like that, then it
will fall under your municipalities WCIB
[1:06:30] and
uh benefits insurance policy. And if
[1:06:35] it's written into agreement then
have to get some involvement for
[1:06:43] » I don't know the the details of it but
conceptually that's
[1:06:47] a good idea the negotiation started
there would be a longer
[1:06:51] no
>> it's just for WSI purposes so for the
[1:06:55] full time WSI is based on their up to
the maximum but for WID coverage for a
[1:07:02] municipality it is uh for each volunteer
firefighter, the municipality needs to
[1:07:08] pay the maximum coverage per fire
volunteer firefighter. So say we have
[1:07:13] 21, we need to pay the maximum. So if it
would be um included in your mutual aid
[1:07:18] agreement then it would be my
understanding that both municipalities
[1:07:22] would need to supplement their numbers
and that could be
[1:07:28] » so it's not just you can't just decide
today I'm going to pay for 15 or like
[1:07:33] because I have an incident right we have
them on a roster this is how many we're
[1:07:36] paying
>> and and it's paid on a yearly basis I'm
[1:07:40] not sure how that would differ that's
for volunteer group right but couple
[1:07:44] times
different but most of our surrounding
[1:07:46] municipalities are also on on a
volunteer group basis
[1:07:51] whereas we have a foundation.
Thanks for the info. It sounds like
[1:07:56] there's a I mean there's obviously
interest in protecting uh not incurring
[1:08:00] unnecessary liability while at the same
time uh continue to provide uh you know
[1:08:06] a service for our neighboring
communities and also be in receipt of of
[1:08:11] that mutual service when it's
appropriate. So again, that won't be in
[1:08:15] the details. So uh we can't do that
unless we have an endorsement to go talk
[1:08:20] about these with with the other
communities and formulate an appropriate
[1:08:24] policy for us that works. If we're in
support of continuing to do that, um you
[1:08:30] can we can bring all this information to
the table that everyone's interested in
[1:08:33] understanding as part of them.
>> It's all a meeting in itself just to go
[1:08:37] through the Yeah.
>> Yeah.
[1:08:40] I don't think it's a thing to decide
tonight.
[1:08:43] » Well, I this was just for consideration.
I don't think there's an ask right now.
[1:08:48] It was simply to hear the concerns and
and uh give direction to continue.
[1:08:54] » Yeah.
>> Is that what is that all because there's
[1:08:56] no
>> direction decision the hard direction
[1:08:59] that's being requested other than to
discuss and consider? And and I think to
[1:09:04] your point, I mean, what what we're
talking about here also lends really
[1:09:08] well to the next your next item on there
as well for lift assists and for the for
[1:09:13] dies.
>> So is there any other discussion on this
[1:09:18] first just on the low service and and uh
responding outside of town cap? Has
[1:09:23] anyone talked to the volunteers
themselves? They volunteer perhaps Jason
[1:09:28] have they volunteered to go hold on. I
think that may be an important item you
[1:09:32] got to check on
cuz now you're going to need it could be
[1:09:38] standard period to find away from their
family have volunteers.
[1:09:42] It's a probably it's two different work
groups. One is a permanent work group,
[1:09:46] one's volunteer work. Maybe have
communication before we go too move
[1:09:51] forward.
[1:09:55] Like any other workplace policy, it's
important, I think, to gather feedback
[1:09:59] from
from the employees. But ultimately, it's
[1:10:02] the the direction or it's a policy
setting that occurs at our level. And uh
[1:10:08] if if we feel it's important to provide
the service, then that's really just a
[1:10:12] condition of continuing to be But that's
not true, K. That's not true because our
[1:10:16] volunteers are for CAT.
you're adding on to something beyond
[1:10:21] that.
>> Well, well, from what I'm hearing, we're
[1:10:23] not adding on. It's already It's already
three to five. It's already three to
[1:10:26] five calls. It's only three to five
calls a year and you already provide
[1:10:29] that service anyway. We're just talking.
>> All I'm saying is to have a have
[1:10:33] communication with the crews and ask
them if they're for this.
[1:10:38] » Saying it's important to consult with
them regarding policy, but but we don't
[1:10:43] give workers a veto over what our policy
directions are. So if there's a
[1:10:48] consideration of links to volunteers, we
have to think that it's part of the risk
[1:10:54] that costbenefit analysis for sure
whether you're going to do something or
[1:10:57] not if that's uh if you're not if you're
afraid or not where volunteers come.
[1:11:03] But policy comes first and then we
consult on that policy to see if it
[1:11:06] continues to make sense and we're just
trying to inform ourselves as to what
[1:11:09] the policy should be that we set uh in
regards to these types of incidents.
[1:11:19] Appreciate the comments. Uh any other
discussion or uh questions about this?
[1:11:26] Okay, we'll move on to the
[1:11:32] No, I'm good. I took notes. Uh I took
note
[1:11:43] letter with other details. It's just to
start the top the result the report was
[1:11:49] just to start the conversation the
discussion at council level.
[1:11:56] » All right. Third item on the agenda.
This is a request to enter into an
[1:12:01] agreement for the provision of third
response services with Cochran District
[1:12:05] Services Board within the limits of the
town of Capiscation. Recommendation is
[1:12:10] that council receive the report entitled
agreement with the Cochran District
[1:12:14] Service Board and authorize the clerk
and the mayor to execute the agreement
[1:12:18] with CBS. Furthermore, the council
direct the fire chief to proceed with
[1:12:22] the implementation of the third response
services in accordance with the timeline
[1:12:28] outlined in the report.
[1:12:38] » Yes. Uh this topic was brought um
productive services
[1:12:55] what I'm talking about here is very
simple. Okay. Uh it's and you will see
[1:13:01] we already doing it on a part-time
basis. Okay.
[1:13:18] CPR. So, noral sign uh short of breath,
chest pain. Okay,
[1:13:26] the list it's it's I put the list in the
report. Okay, so it's uh it's it's I
[1:13:32] think it's at at the last page. Okay. Uh
we uh when when we did the work with CD
[1:13:42] SAB we determined that the department
would respond to an average of 200 calls
[1:13:47] a year less than one call a day to these
type of calls. Okay. The dur the average
[1:13:53] duration of one of these calls it's be
it's around 20 minutes that doesn't
[1:13:59] create any burden on our workload. So uh
and the training required to do that
[1:14:06] it's a it's the it's a first
medical first responder which is a 40
[1:14:12] hours course provided by DAB.
Um it has for the training it has no
[1:14:21] cost. It's all paid by DAB. We already
have all the equipment. Uh what when I
[1:14:28] did the analysis uh I expect that would
cost us around $400 per year of diesel
[1:14:37] uh 200 calls an average of 20 30 minutes
max that like I said that will not
[1:14:43] create any burden on our workload and
the calls happen during the day during
[1:14:48] the night. Uh going back to the WSIB or
the PTSD topic. Okay. I did some
[1:14:58] research. I consult one of the largest
the second largest department in Canada.
[1:15:20] They since then, so five, seven years
after they implement a proper medical
[1:15:27] first responder course and since then
because staff are trained properly at
[1:15:33] the right level, they don't have a
single out of 2600 firefighters a single
[1:15:39] firefighter on PTS is due to medical
response. Okay. So I did I did the did
[1:15:46] the I did the research on that. Um
what else? What can I currently
[1:15:53] currently when we don't have any
ambulance in town? Okay we do call we do
[1:15:59] get called for medical emergency medical
uh when life people have like their life
[1:16:07] is threatening. Okay, we get the call.
We do respond.
[1:16:12] Okay. Um, what else? Uh, what else did I
miss here? Um,
[1:16:24] it's different than lift assist. I'm not
talking about lift assist. Lift assist
[1:16:30] or fire related call. Because even if we
don't do tiered response,
[1:16:37] we will still doing lift assist because
it's an assistance to another the
[1:16:43] another agency. Okay. What I'm talking
about is if public are on scene and we
[1:16:49] showed up at the same time, we will
support them package the patient and the
[1:16:54] ambulance and the ambulance leave and
respond go back the station. If for any
[1:16:59] reason we show up first we will
administer what is as per the protocol
[1:17:05] as per what the level of training that
firefighter has and we will as soon on
[1:17:10] scene they we they will package the
patient put in the ambulance leave to
[1:17:16] the hospital. Okay. Uh currently
it's happen it's happened we do medical
[1:17:24] call and one show up on the package and
they leave. So that we instead of doing
[1:17:29] a few times a year, we're going to do it
200 times a year.
[1:17:35] » We uh I got I did receive a lot of
comments from the full-time staff. Okay.
[1:17:43] Oh, by the way, doing that will not
create any overtime at all. No
[1:17:49] backfilling because that will be done on
shift. Okay. It's only the on shift
[1:17:54] firefighter that will respond to med
calls.
[1:17:57] Also
uh if we are on a working fire or if we
[1:18:03] are not available for any reason because
it's not our core services we will not
[1:18:08] do it we will not provide this level of
service okay so when I receive
[1:18:18] Wait.
[1:18:26] Agreement.
[1:18:46] Okay.
[1:18:51] Okay.
By doing that, that's mean we would get
[1:18:56] called more often within our town
limits. Okay. within our town limits and
[1:19:03] because we're going to respond to motor
vehicle collisions a little bit more
[1:19:07] often. I expect be 30 times more than
what we do now within our town limit.
[1:19:12] That's mean we're going to be able to
claim 30 times
[1:19:18] $600
>> to the we're already doing it right now,
[1:19:23] but we're not getting paid.
>> Oh, currently no. Currently we don't we
[1:19:28] don't respond to this these motor
vehicle collision. We respond only when
[1:19:32] extrication is required in our town
limit.
[1:19:35] » Okay.
>> Okay.
[1:19:44] » Okay.
[1:19:58] Um, so you say it's going to take you 40
hours to get everybody up to snuff. How
[1:20:04] long is the pumper course?
>> Uh, 40 hours.
[1:20:09] » Yeah. You know, we've been working on
the pumper course for the last two and a
[1:20:15] half years, three years, and we're just
doing we're 80% 80. Well, okay. So, two
[1:20:21] years, one one year, whatever. Like,
we're 80% complete. What makes you think
[1:20:25] we'll be able to complete the 40hour
course to like shouldn't we be shouldn't
[1:20:31] we be addressing our our core
our core race all night? Uh, so fighting
[1:20:37] fires, making sure that we can hold a
gun, a host,
[1:20:41] » you know what I mean?
>> Okay. And I'm just putting that out
[1:20:45] there because I mean it's the obvious.
Sorry.
[1:21:02] because of their personal schedule.
Okay. So, first responder course will be
[1:21:09] done on the full-time
full-time firefighter schedule when they
[1:21:14] are at work. So
I would say six eight weeks to be
[1:21:20] completed.
[1:21:26] » They're providing the training.
>> Provide the training.
[1:21:29] » Oh, they're not paying the full cup.
[1:21:36] » They're already
[1:21:41] » on
>> Oh,
[1:21:43] » yeah. The trans.
>> Okay.
[1:21:46] Article five of the project agreement.
All medical training cost and cost
[1:21:52] associated with the maintenance of
equipment and staff qualification shall
[1:21:56] be the exclusive responsibility of CD
SAB.
[1:22:12] Come on. Um, it's a chef.
[1:22:20] » Uh, when when I when I started to work
on that, I got a lot of comments from
[1:22:28] the full-time staff about the mo mostly
about the implementation. Okay. And the
[1:22:34] implementation will be done on three
three different phases. LAR
[1:22:41] starting to respond to motor vehicle
collision within our town limit. Okay,
[1:22:45] this is the first the second phase after
training is fully completed. So January
[1:22:51] 1st that's going to be sh a shadowing
period for uh three months. So they're
[1:22:57] going they're going to respond at the
same time then the ambulance the
[1:23:01] paramedics and they're going to shadow
them. They're going to just support them
[1:23:05] see what they do just to make them more
much more comfortable. Okay. And the
[1:23:12] last phase, phase number three, that
it's the full implementation.
[1:23:30] Fore
[1:23:41] service.
[1:23:53] Okay.
[1:23:59] service.
[1:24:05] Okay.
[1:24:17] This is just to name a few that we know.
[1:24:36] See today it's good the relationship
between peric and firefighter is good
[1:24:42] because firefighter are not there to
steal peric jobs
[1:24:49] would have been a different story but
now it's we're past that.
[1:25:03] Any
[1:25:07] other questions or uh
[1:25:12] yeah well two weeks it's uh the
recommendation for
[1:25:25] » all right
recommendation stands. Uh fourth item
[1:25:34] is a request to enter into an agreement
with global medic to accept the donation
[1:25:39] of a wildland fire skid system.
Recommendation is that council enter
[1:25:45] into the agreement with a global medic.
>> Okay.
[1:25:52] See, Global Medic, it's a nonprofit
organization
[1:26:03] municipal all across Canada. Okay.
Global Medic provide to uh fire
[1:26:12] department
what it's nameland fires kit. It's a
[1:26:17] It's a It's a It's a water tank,
portable pump,
[1:26:22] high pressure portable pump with hoses.
Okay. And it's used to fight brush and
[1:26:30] forest fire. When I say brush fire, we
have a ton of brush fire br we have a
[1:26:35] ton of possibility of brush fire around
town. So within our town limit, I said,
[1:26:40] "Okay." So they want to they contact us
and they offered to us uh this piece of
[1:26:46] equipment Timmens will get will get two
uh they at as today they already
[1:26:52] distributed 600 fire kit throughout the
country. Okay. And the value of the fire
[1:26:59] kit it's around $6,000. So I put few
pictures here. Okay. On page uh page
[1:27:06] page four of the report. Okay. So uh
that doesn't this to use the system.
[1:27:14] It's not required to have a specific
training. Uh it's not a specific it's
[1:27:20] not a special piece of equipment. It's
just an add-on an addition to our piece
[1:27:25] of equipment that we it will be useful
to protect our community.
[1:27:35] I'm available for a question.
[1:27:40] I've seen the I mean this one's pretty
straightforward. There's no uh there's
[1:27:44] no cost fills a gap. We've already had
some uh say rush fire, forest fire
[1:27:50] incidents. Um
>> okay, that's
[1:27:56] how transh.
[1:28:04] » It's a good question. uh if we get this
piece of equipment we will get probably
[1:28:10] by the third weeks or last week of
August. So the brush fire season will be
[1:28:16] almost over. So it's either first of all
I will contact my colleague at public
[1:28:22] work to see if he has an available
trailer. If not for 202 2027 I will
[1:28:29] budget a trailer to put this kid on it.
>> Yeah. You have some you have some pretty
[1:28:35] good welders in there.
[1:28:40] They're very they're very kind.
[1:28:50] I think
>> I think it's a great opportunity and tr
[1:28:55] to be honest we should we should uh
accept this donation and this donation
[1:29:01] is made or will be made with no uh with
no uh with no condition. We're going to
[1:29:09] own it.
[1:29:16] That's good.
That's unless there's any other
[1:29:20] questions, comments, concerns. That's it
for executive services agenda.
[1:29:24] » Thanks, Council Mon.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh,
[1:29:30] so request 2026 capital budget amendment
presented a road intersection upgrade
[1:29:35] and deferral of Niagara Street in St.
Clair Avenueing project. The
[1:29:40] recommendation is that council approve
the peneti road intersection upgrade
[1:29:45] project as a 2026 capital expense
increasing the 2026 capital budget
[1:29:51] expenditures by approximately 189,000
and that council approved the
[1:29:56] postponement of the Niagara Street and
Sinclair Avenue resurfacing project from
[1:30:01] 2026 to 2027
and that the associated 2026
[1:30:07] construction budget allocation of 23
35,000 for the Niagara Street and St.
[1:30:12] Clair Avenue resurfacing project be
removed from the 2026 capital budget
[1:30:17] resulting in an estimated net reduction
in 2026 capital expenditures of
[1:30:22] approximately 46,000.
Before I open up to question, I think
[1:30:27] this is uh Paul's last meeting, so I'd
like to thank him for uh his service at
[1:30:33] the town of Caps.
Any questions on that? Is that subject?
[1:30:40] » Is the um engineering done for street?
>> Um no. So we got a draft uh last week.
[1:30:48] So we need to review and then go through
with the engineers. We expect uh maybe
[1:30:54] another month to six weeks before the
design would be completed for that
[1:30:59] project. So this is allows us a little
bit more time to refine the design and
[1:31:03] be confident with um the but that we
would um
[1:31:11] see there's not that that much structure
work being done. Is this a project that
[1:31:17] could possibly be pushed forward once we
know the estimated costs
[1:31:25] » could earlier than
>> you're referencing Niagara and St.
[1:31:30] Clair?
>> Yes.
[1:31:31] » Well, the idea was to do that project
this year.
[1:31:34] » Um,
this is just a means of um potentially
[1:31:41] saving a little bit of money this year
by moving that project to next year.
[1:31:44] there's a appetite for uh councils
looking to move forward with it this
[1:31:48] year.
>> I'm just thinking of what it's going to
[1:31:50] cost extra next year.
>> The cheapest time to do it is now.
[1:31:56] » Yeah. So yeah always uh always you know
that's why we would like to continue um
[1:32:03] reviewing projects like uh in person
and those designs are all nearing
[1:32:09] completion that they be consideration
for for this year's construction season
[1:32:13] still
[1:32:19] » there any other questions?
Well, just one, what's the driver for
[1:32:24] this? Is it was it to flag off cost
saving opportunities as a result of
[1:32:29] » the pretty much the snow
removal budget went overboard or is
[1:32:34] what's coming up?
>> Yeah. So, a little bit we we had
[1:32:38] approved this project the the Bville
intersection upgrades that we council a
[1:32:43] few meetings ago where it was approved
to proceed. Um I had originally had it
[1:32:48] as an operational cost that we were
going to divide the certain elements
[1:32:51] through operations. Um seeing that I
need to save some money operationally.
[1:32:58] Um and then talking with the auditors
and knowing that this project more of a
[1:33:03] capital project was an operational
project. Moving this into capital saves
[1:33:08] operational money. plan to not
overextend on our capital commitments
[1:33:13] for this year is to remove a project of
similar scope in uh in cost. Okay.
[1:33:20] » So I didn't want to just say let's spend
another 200,000 on this. Let's spend
[1:33:24] 200,000 by removing another house next
year. Okay. Thanks.
[1:33:30] If I remember correctly, they said the
Niagara speak already
[1:33:37] the engineering was approved and
>> it was the the construction was
[1:33:41] approved.
>> Yeah. So construction was person and
[1:33:44] then
>> so yeah just to uh clarify the Nag St.
[1:33:51] Clair is just a resurface area. It's not
an underground for
[1:33:57] the first
>> and we have enough for Nords. The Nords
[1:34:02] uh is it probably qualifies for that and
that wasn't in the budget in the first
[1:34:08] place. So
>> yeah look at that. Uh I think we got on
[1:34:15] another project so we can continue to
because
[1:34:20] » buying year after year. So we're going
to move that to the north person
[1:34:32] that sh
[1:34:43] we have we have enough for streets that
have that desperately need some
[1:34:46] attention. Um I think that's addressed
through the asset management. Okay.
[1:34:56] » So Jamie's the one putting cones on all
the
[1:35:04] » Any other questions?
[1:35:08] » Thanks. Economic development and
community wellbeing and recreation.
[1:35:14] » Thank you Harvard. Um so a request for
recreation department's monthly report
[1:35:19] for June 206. So the recommendation is
uh that council be the recreation
[1:35:25] department remained um the recreation
department remained exceptionally active
[1:35:30] throughout June supporting major
community events maintaining key
[1:35:34] recreational assets and preparing for a
busy summer season. Staff played a
[1:35:38] significant role in the successful KDHs
90th reunion St. Jamington helping
[1:35:44] deliver events and infected visitors
celebrated Korean pride and showcase
[1:35:48] local uh facilities. The town's
recreation infrastructure continued to
[1:35:53] see strong utilization. Um the ball
fields hosted extensive you school youth
[1:35:58] and adult programming demonstrating
their importance as one of capac's most
[1:36:03] heavily used summer recreation assets.
pool staff focused on launching summer
[1:36:07] programs, organizing cap kids parks and
sports programs, and coordinating
[1:36:12] registrations for swimming lessons and
junior lifeguards.
[1:36:16] Um, the town's parks and outdoor
activities remain important gathering
[1:36:21] spaces throughout the month. The splash
bat and welcome families and school
[1:36:25] groups for side park hosted community
events and staff completed extensive
[1:36:29] maintenance on tennis court pickle ball
courts playgrounds and other outdoor
[1:36:33] facilities to ensure they remain safe
and enjoyable for residents. staff also
[1:36:38] led several strategic initiatives
including work on the cap specing
[1:36:42] cemetery
uh columbarium
[1:36:47] expansion project and efforts to
modernize cemetery record management
[1:36:51] seasonal students contributed
significantly to cemetery visitation and
[1:36:55] maintenance helping preserve a
respectful and welcoming environment for
[1:36:59] Pacific
um just I just add a little quick note
[1:37:03] here our community remains vibrant
healthy and um well loved. So thank you
[1:37:09] to everybody involved. You don't even
have time to uh look over the report of
[1:37:14] all our successes.
>> A lot of great activities took place
[1:37:18] here. Was was your busiest June ever? My
first June here.
[1:37:27] Very busy.
[1:37:32] » Any questions, comments? No.
>> Just one comment. It it's great to walk
[1:37:37] around the style at night time and if
anyone ever says there's nothing new
[1:37:42] because they don't want to do it.
>> You go by the golf course jam. Baseball
[1:37:47] feels jam bad. Soccer fields jam bad. Uh
pickle ball same thing. Like there's
[1:37:54] lots of things that do good on you guys.
[1:38:02] Um,
next item on the agenda is for
[1:38:06] information capacity economic
development monthly report for June July
[1:38:10] 2026. So, a couple highlights here. Of
course, CAP raise uh great success.
[1:38:16] Again, sponsorships and funding are up.
Um, they've exceeded their expectation
[1:38:23] by a lot of money. In addition, CAP
raise received $55,000 in funding from
[1:38:29] the government of Ontario through the
Experience Ontario program. So, we know
[1:38:33] that um the people working in our exev
department uh they're working very hard
[1:38:40] and uh we see great success there.
Congratulations to them and those teams
[1:38:47] and her welcome center is very
welcoming.
[1:38:50] Is there any questions, comments about
that?
[1:38:54] That's all for me.
>> Thanks Emry. Uh health council one item
[1:38:59] Mr. Mayor it's a request for support for
the MRI weight times to access
[1:39:04] diagnostic imaging services
recommendation that council receive
[1:39:08] correspondence from Mike Vashel or Mr.
Wakefield regarding NR times and access
[1:39:13] diagnostic imaging services and caps
facing and surrounding areas. And
[1:39:16] further council direct administration to
prepare letters of support advocacy
[1:39:21] regarding improved access to MRI and
diagnostic imaging services for the
[1:39:25] resident space and surrounding areas and
further that the advocacy letter be sent
[1:39:29] to the ministry of health der health
north and local member of provincial
[1:39:33] parliament and other appropriate health
partners. The letters attached that Mr.
[1:39:38] has said um I know the hospital's
working towards the MR and I believe
[1:39:43] yours though still
>> it's a matter of time but it's nice to
[1:39:46] have letters to speed things up.
>> Yeah,
[1:39:49] » that's all I have.
>> I think the last time we met with
[1:39:51] Minister Jones was last year around MRI
and and her indication was get a
[1:39:57] » apply,
>> you know, get a a program together, get
[1:40:00] a plan together and so we're just
waiting to be with them.
[1:40:04] » So it's good that Shantal is working on
that night. Thank you.
[1:40:08] » That's it. Okay. So that concludes the
committee the whole adoption of the
[1:40:12] minutes. We have a motion uh minutes of
the joint committee of the whole and
[1:40:16] council meeting held June 15th.
>> Moved by councelor man, seconded by
[1:40:19] councelor Jennison that the minutes of
the joint committees of the whole and
[1:40:22] council meeting held on June 15, 2026 be
adopted.
[1:40:27] » All in favor
carried. correspondence and average
[1:40:31] update. They have a request for to zone
programmed for highway 11 north. So,
[1:40:37] anybody want to tackle this one? Do
>> you have any comments on that?
[1:40:42] » Oh, yes. I read through it and we're
going to read a little bit, but that's
[1:40:47] fine. Um the um request kind of
puts into jeopardy. We we already have
[1:40:55] monopolies on highway construction and I
don't think we want to see monopolies on
[1:41:00] highway towing uh hearing that think
maybe something can be done. Um I've
[1:41:07] spoken to other Mr. Murray and Twitter
but others they say the biggest thing
[1:41:13] that takes time is not actually the
records but the OTP doing their
[1:41:18] investigation getting there. That's what
takes the most time. by hearing that the
[1:41:23] only thing I would like in the letter of
support that we want there in the last
[1:41:28] um second last paragraph
um
[1:41:41] I would had at the end in consultations
with all stakeholders
[1:41:48] » and I don't remember exactly what it
But it's to make sure that all the
[1:41:54] stakeholders, the co- truck operators,
the trucking companies, uh, everybody
[1:42:00] has the OP, everybody.
>> Yeah. They put a plan together, not just
[1:42:05] by one group. Mhm. But at the end costs
are involved and
[1:42:13] there's some astronomical to sometimes
>> and then and there's also the example
[1:42:19] what happens in Toronto which is pretty
sad.
[1:42:24] Just a comment on that. It is I thought
it was interesting how they bring a
[1:42:28] different perspective to our highway
issues about having a difficulty turning
[1:42:33] around anywhere on corridor 11 because
they don't have a paved sidewalk
[1:42:40] shoulders and that uh this is another
aspect of why it's important to also get
[1:42:46] our two plus point. Oh, definitely it's
important because there would be less
[1:42:51] accidents, less
>> but even for them when they
[1:42:56] Yeah.
[1:42:59] Yeah,
>> it's one company asking for this and I
[1:43:02] think you have to listen to everybody
both of this probably
[1:43:10] just to add to that
agree with the you know the obviously
[1:43:14] the monopoly concern around it
guaranteeing business to one to provide
[1:43:19] benefits. I support in principle the MTO
reviewing the restricted tolling zone
[1:43:25] subject to broad consultation with all
the all the appropriate stakeholders for
[1:43:29] sure. Um I guess I take I take the the
concern of this word that it's really
[1:43:34] about unregulated driver with wasted uh
towing that is that is occurring that is
[1:43:40] that is uh that's causing the issues and
uh but I I still think we should from a
[1:43:46] regional safety perspective still ask
the MTO to review how best to address
[1:43:51] this.
>> Yeah.
[1:43:54] » Poland.
>> Yes. So uh so there's no problem in in
[1:43:59] changing the resolution to have it
reflected the way that um council has
[1:44:05] has gi
[1:44:09] uh for information notice aerial
herbicide projects
[1:44:13] for us.
We haveformational letter appreciation
[1:44:18] from the found for grocery donations.
We have information correspondence from
[1:44:24] Minister Minister of Northern Economic
Development Growth and OHF Seek
[1:44:29] opportunities. I think that's uh a nudge
to maybe get some applications uh for
[1:44:36] some of the projects we might have out
there. Um so we'll we'll definitely take
[1:44:40] that in consideration
um for information correspondence from
[1:44:45] for in regards to Northern Shield Energy
Corridor.
[1:44:51] Does this does the proposed route pass
near Cal?
[1:44:54] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. It was very vague when initially
[1:44:57] announced it had it on a map and you
know it had it in Alberta and it had it
[1:45:02] in Sarnia because if it went through
Ontario you hope that you might have
[1:45:06] been close to that but it is I think
it's following the history. It would
[1:45:11] only make sense to to to follow the
existing uh a lot of lines that are
[1:45:15] there today. Rightways are there,
infrastructure to get from the highway
[1:45:20] to there
[1:45:23] at all.
No, there's
[1:45:26] » there's going to be uh it's it's initial
stages and there's going to be some
[1:45:31] consultation obviously that's going to
have to happen and who knows how long it
[1:45:34] might take but certainly
>> sir it sounds like if it is going to go
[1:45:39] there would be opportunity for some
economic development outreach just for
[1:45:43] you know staging jobs and the
construction of the
[1:45:46] » so if consultations occurring we can
make those pitches and kind of sounds
[1:45:51] like the energy
[1:45:55] Yeah, in central east
central not going back.
[1:46:07] So all in all good news. Uh for
information and thank you letter from
[1:46:10] the Timmons District Hospital
and that would conclude that we have a
[1:46:15] committee the whole recommendations mill
staff report nil motions and notice of
[1:46:19] motions. We have motion to approve a
one-year extension of the sports palace
[1:46:24] skate shop in session agreement.
>> Moved by councel second by councelor.
[1:46:29] Whereas Tony Cap spacing entered into a
sports palace skate shop concession
[1:46:33] agreement with Mike Bowden for the
provision of skate shop services at with
[1:46:36] sports palace and whereas the committee
reviewed the matter at its meeting held
[1:46:40] on June 15, 2026 and recommended that
the existing agreement be extended for a
[1:46:46] one-year period. And whereas the town
wishes to maintain uninterrupted skate
[1:46:50] shop services at the sports palace for
the 2026 2027 season. And whereas the
[1:46:56] concessionire has advised the town of
his intention to retire following the
[1:46:59] 2026 2027 season. Noras the one-year
extension will provide the town with
[1:47:06] additional time to evaluate future
service delivery options and develop an
[1:47:09] appropriate succession plan for the
continued operation of the sports palace
[1:47:14] skate shop. Now therefore, be it
resolved that council approve a one-year
[1:47:18] extension of the sports palace becoming
session agreement with my potent
[1:47:21] effective August 1st, 2026 and expiring
July 31st, 2027. And further that all
[1:47:28] terms and conditions of the original
agreement remain in full force and
[1:47:32] effect except as amended by this
one-year extension. And further that the
[1:47:37] clerk be authorized to execute the
one-year extension agreement on behalf
[1:47:40] of the corporation of the town cap
state. All in favor?
[1:47:46] Carried. Motion approve the 2026 capital
budget amendments for Brenville Road
[1:47:50] intersection upgrades in Niagara Street
Sinclair Avenue reservicing project.
[1:47:54] » Moved by councelor Newton, seconded by
councelor Dennis that council approve
[1:47:58] the Brunettville Road intersection
upgrades project as a 2026 capital
[1:48:02] expense increasing the 2026 capital
budget expenditures by approximately
[1:48:06] $189,000.
And that council approved the
[1:48:10] postponement of the Niagara Street and
St. Clair Avenue resurfacing project
[1:48:14] from 2026 to 2027 and that the
associated 2026 construction budget
[1:48:20] allocation of 235,000 for the Niagara
Street and St. Clair Avenue Resurfacing
[1:48:25] project be removed from the 2026 capital
budget resulting in an estimated net
[1:48:31] reduction in 2026 capital expenditures
of approximately $46,000.
[1:48:37] » All in favor?
Carried. Motion to support and review
[1:48:41] the restricted towing zone for highway
11 and northern corridor.
[1:48:44] » Moved by councelor, seconded by
councelor man. Whereas highway 11 is a
[1:48:49] critical transportation corridor for the
northern Ontario supporting res
[1:48:52] emergency services, commercial
transportation and key economic sectors
[1:48:56] including mining, forestry and energy.
And whereas the town caping has received
[1:49:00] correspondence from Walton Payton LLP
legal council for mate Oker requesting
[1:49:06] that the
long lap ring zone highway 11 northern
[1:49:11] corridor be designated as a restricted
towing zone under the towing and storage
[1:49:15] safety and enforcement act 2021. And
whereas the correspondence identifies
[1:49:20] concerns regarding the absence of a
formal towing protocol along Highway 11
[1:49:24] and north, including longer weight
times, duplication of towing efforts,
[1:49:28] roadside solicitation, inefficient
response, and increased safety concerns.
[1:49:33] And whereas many sections of Highway 11
in Northern Ontario are single lane
[1:49:37] highways in each direction and delays in
clearing disabled vehicles or collision
[1:49:42] scenes can create significant safety
risks, traffic disruptions, and impacts
[1:49:46] to emergency respon.
And whereas a regulated towing framework
[1:49:51] may assist in promoting faster and safer
housing clearance, ensuring appropriate
[1:49:55] training and equipment standards,
supporting transparent and fair towing
[1:49:58] practices, and reducing the time
emergency personnel are required to
[1:50:02] remain on scene. Now therefore, be it
resolved that council courts town caps
[1:50:06] and received the correspondence from
Walton Heighten LLP regarding the
[1:50:10] request for a tow zone program for
Highway 11 North and further that
[1:50:14] council support in principle a review by
the Ministry of Transportation of the
[1:50:18] establishment of a restricted towing
zone or similar related towing framework
[1:50:22] for Highway 11 Northern Corridor and to
have proper consultations with all
[1:50:28] stakeholders and further that a copy of
this resolution beed to the Ministry of
[1:50:32] Transportation.
The sorry, Minister of Transportation,
[1:50:36] Minister of Northern Economic
Development and Growth, Ontario
[1:50:39] Provincial Police, James VOP Detachment
Board to the Ministry of Transportation
[1:50:44] Tollbone Pilot Program, FA NAMA in
effectiveness follows along the Highway
[1:50:48] 11 urban corridor.
>> All in favor?
[1:50:54] General items and new foreman. And with
that, I'd like to welcome our you
[1:50:58] foreman, Mai, who's sitting in the back
there. Welcome to the team. No, thank
[1:51:02] you.
[1:51:05] » Actually, that that wasn't new new form
and it was new business. There was none,
[1:51:08] but you are new business today.
>> Security.
[1:51:12] » Okay. We also have a motion for cyber
security. Sorry.
[1:51:16] » Moved by councelor Dennis, seconded by
councelor man that council approve the
[1:51:19] proceeding with the addition of the
purchase for cyber security insurance
[1:51:23] coverage with the liability amount of $2
million.
[1:51:27] » All favor.
Uh bylaws no motion approve the
[1:51:32] confirmatory bylaws. Sorry.
>> Move by council seconded by councel that
[1:51:36] bylaw number 4709 being a bylaw to
confirm the proceedings of council be an
[1:51:40] accident that the fulfill be a fixed
there too and that the bylaw be signed
[1:51:44] by the mayor and clerk.
>> All in favor
[1:51:47] carried motion to adjurnn.
Moved by council me seconded by
[1:51:52] councelor Dson that the meeting be
adjourned at 7:51 p.m.