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All right, it's 6 o'clock. 6 o'clock
we'll call a meeting order. We'll start

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with the pledge

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algiance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic

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for which it stands. One nation under
God, indivisible, liberty and justice

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for all.
>> All right. Thank you everybody for

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coming out tonight. Um,
is there any additions or deletions or

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corrections to the agenda?
>> I do have one ad under uh my report

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would be uh I5 and it's uh related to
the election lecture we talked about.

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» Anybody else? Not take a motion to
approve.

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» Make the motion to approve.
>> Thank you, Ryan. Do we have a second?

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» I'll second.
>> Thank you, Sheldon. All in favor? I

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» oppos. Thank you.
>> Consent agenda. Is there any item on

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there you'd like to discuss? If not,
I'll take a motion to approve.

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» The motion to approve. Thank you, Ryan.
Do we have a second?

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» I'll second.
>> Thank you, Mel. All in favor?

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» I.
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Up next is
visitors to the council. Right. We have

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no visitors. Um, we'll go to the mayor's
report. I just got one quick item on

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that. School's going to be starting
soon. Please be patient with the buses

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out there. Please be patient with the
students out there crossing. They're not

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always going to push crosswalk button.
Just watch out for them.

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You know, sometimes they get in a hurry
and forget. So, just be patient, work

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with them, know that traffic's going to
get a little slow. They're in front of

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the school before you start, before you
leave. Just just a little public service

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so you don't forget. Um that's it.
Public forum. We have one card. Shannon

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Peters. If you like come up to the
podium with name, address.

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» Hi, good evening everyone. Um my name is
Shannon Peters. I live at 603 Street

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Northwest.
I'm here today to voice my strong

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objection to the placement of the new
ground loaned solar array on the Cassen

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public lawn and library. This public
utility footprint is 125 ft away from my

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front door, completely destroying my
neighborhood view, impacting my property

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value, and threatening I don't know if
you've done a solar glare um reflective

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gr glare study.
What makes this situation even

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completely more accept unacceptable is
the double standard. If I, as a

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taxpaying person, wanted to put ground
mounted solar system in my yard, the

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city's zoning ordinance outright bans me
from doing so to protect the

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neighborhood character.
Yet, the library roof couldn't

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structurally support these panels. So,
the city gave itself a pass, deciding

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it's perfectly fine to dump an
industrial ugly footprint on the public

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lawn right in front of my living room.
I do support green energy, absolutely,

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but I do not support discriminatory
discriminatory zoning. This is an R1.

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The library is in residential one. And
the total lack of transparency that led

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to this layout, I don't know where it
came from.

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The city should hold its residents, The
city should not hold its residents to a

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standard of community harmony that it
refuses to practice itself. You've

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already laid the um concrete. You've put
the post in. You've got the stands

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there. Now, um it's ugly. Um you've left
25 ft from the curb to the first post or

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I'm sorry, you've left 16 ft from the
first post to the curb.

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Um
it's just ugly. Um I would like um you

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to make public for all three that you
have put up um that I'm that I'm aware

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of. I would like to make um see the
glint and glare assessment for all three

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of those in the neighborhood. I would
like the city to commit um commit to a

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binding cityf funed mitigated plan that
includes a highquality privacy fence or

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a dense row of mature trees on that
property so that I do not have to look

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at your ugly solar system.
My other concern is the safety of the

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community and children that play there.
The kids that do their cartwheels there,

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play hideand go seek there. If you're
not putting a fence up around there,

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shame on you.
Um, also

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this permit that was given to me by Ian
the other day, $10,000. Is that for the

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total project for that public library
project? That's the assessed value. That

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is fraud. I took this to three
electricians today. They said the

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electrical alone would cost probably 8
to10 grand. So what are you doing? You

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got $103,000
grant money, which by the way is my

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taxpayer money and everyone in this
room's taxpayer money. Ridiculous. What

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are you doing with the rest of it? Um,
you have failed your community.

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I'm just saying you have failed me. You
have failed the community with putting

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this in a neighborhood right in the
front of somebody's living room.

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If you want, I can show you pictures if
you'd like them, but I'm sure you're you

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know what you've done.
just disgusting. You should be ashamed

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of yourselves.

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I would like a written response to my
questions and how you're going to deal

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with this within 10 days. Thank you.
>> Thank you.

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» We'll put that under staff to

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» Okay. Um that's the only card I had for
public forum. There's no public hearing

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committee report
EDA.

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» All right. So, the first item that I
have for you this evening is the uh

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draft subordination agreement that was
presented to the EDA at our meeting

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earlier this month. Um so it has to do
with um Elite Marketing Investments and

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Joe Lonzo's business. Um so long time
ago, at least 10 years ago, the EDA did

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give a loan in the amount of $90,000 to
um that business um to aid in their to

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assist in their relocation here to
Cassen. Um fast forward to today, the

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balance on that loan is just over
55,000.

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Um but since then um
another lender MBT Bank has given Elite

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additional loans. Um but after all of
that, the EDA's mortgage on the property

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um just across the street here, the
EDA's position is in first place ahead

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of all the subsequent leans on the
property.

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Um, so the request here with a
subordination agreement would move the

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EDA from first position um down to third
position behind the the bank's existing

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um loan on the property and um the
proposed 475,000

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letter of credit that would go towards
Elite for the purpose of um operation

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operational expenses.
Uh I did have the city attorney review

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the subordination request
and she had recommended that the EDA not

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agree to the subordination agreement
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since it does place more risk on the EDA
by moving it from first down to third

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position. Um
however um Mr. Alonzo did come to the

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EDA meeting early this month and there
was a rather long uh discussion that we

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had. Um so we learned a bit more about
the situation from his perspective. Um

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he had also shared a a Mims report that
he had prepared um in advance of asking

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for um the additional letter of credit
from the bank um placing the value of

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his property closer to uh 1.2 just under
$1.2 $2 million.

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Um we discussed a few alternatives to
the subordination agreement. Um one of

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which was to uh instead of the third
position take a second position behind

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the bank's um existing lean but still
ahead of the proposed $475,000

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letter of credit. Um Mr. Mr. Lonzo said
that the bank wouldn't wouldn't agree to

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that um positioning. Um we also
discussed the option of wiping out Mr.

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Lonzo's existing loan but then um taking
that third position and lending him back

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the remaining balance but at a higher
interest rate considering the increased

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risk to the EDA. Um but Mr. Lonzo was
not in favor of that idea either. Um but

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at the end of all of that, the EDA um
did end up recommending approval of the

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subordination agreement as as was
drafted. Um so that is what is before

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consideration of you tonight.
As it's noted, it says we're third, but

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technically according to M MBT Bank,
they would roll both of their loans into

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one, and that would make us technically
second because they classified theirs.

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Yes, it's two loans, but they would
recover them as one.

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» Yes.
>> So, so that would put us back, that was

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where the EDA discussed it. That would
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originally when we did the loan.
And then when he had to rebuild the

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building, we became the only loan on it
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» that's why we're in first position.
>> That's why we moved to first. But so

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technically we're not third. We'd be
second

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even though it list cuz MBT would just
roll said that's they count that as one

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loan. Even though it shows as two paper
trails in the bank, they would they look

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at it as one. That was part of the
reasoning the EDA went back and said,

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"Well, then we're second." And he plus
he's never missed a payment from the

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beginning.

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» If that's what I recall from that
meeting.

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» Yeah. Yep. How long was the time frame
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» He's got 10 years left.
>> 10 years left.

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» Yeah. He's about halfway through.
>> No payments missed.

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» No pay. We did give them a year off when
the building went under fire and they

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had to rebuild.
So that's why it's a little over half

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left due on it because he he was allowed
a year grace period due to the rebuild.

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» Right.
>> Even at that he's the payments have been

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timely and
>> he's lived up to all the other all the

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other agreements in the contract.
He's held true on that. Okay.

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» And there's still value in that one
building that would cover everything.

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That was that was the logic of the EDA
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» So, is any we got any questions for Ann
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for a motion? I
>> I had one more.

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» Yes.
>> So, the it's just MBTL that's listed in

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that. Is there a third party?
>> It would just be between MBT and and us.

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Okay. There's just those two parties and
that could move us to the second.

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» Yeah. I mean, yeah, they'll still have
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» the line of credit and the loan,
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» they're like packaged.
>> They package it, but they still leave it

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as two separate because it's two
separate interest rates for them, but

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they count that as one if they had to
foreclose

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be anything.
So that would put us second technically,

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but it in logistics, yes, it is third,
but the bank looks at it as more of a

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one two. So
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in there to be covered is enough for us
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» Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz he's at 750,000.
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» Yeah. Up, you know, and that's up too on
their credit form, you know. So, and

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that building appraising according to
the report you have in here shows like a

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1 almost 1.2 million.

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Oh, any other questions or concerns?
I guess I would take a motion to

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approve
the subordination agreement. Make the

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motion to approve the subboard and
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» Ryan, do we have a second?
>> I'll second.

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» Sheldon. All in favor?
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» I post. Okay.
Next on your EDA ready.

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» Yep. So, next item in there is the
second half investment um going towards

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ready. Um the EDA has been an investor
and ready for a few years now. Um

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through that we've um been a participant
in the communities council and um you'll

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c recall last year the um the housing
roundt that was had over in Byron. Um,

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more recently we did have kind of a
group meeting with the other investor

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communities um, just to talk more about
the future of the group and strategic

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planning as far as regional economic
development goes. Um, and so at the EDA

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meeting earlier this month, um, there
was a motion to recommend investing for

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the second half of of this year. So that
would take us through the end of this

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year. Um you'll see the invoices
included in the packet. If there's any

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questions,

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we did did voice our opinion at the EDA
level that we want to see more out of

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them. So I mean they did send a little
packet, but it's almost like you got to

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force them to do it. So,
you know, so they are aware and there's

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other cities that voiced their same
opinions that yeah, you say you want to

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help, but where's, you know, in where's
more input for us?

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» So, what did we get out of the first
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» Uh, well, they've been talking about the
that strategic planning and all of that.

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I think that's where u most of it has
gone. They tried applying for a few

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different grants to um actually like
develop an actual written plan. Don't

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think they were successful. Um but that
is a lot of where the time was was spent

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in this first half of the year.
>> Ian meets with them monthly.

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» Yeah.
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» Um they do provide support on different
you know economic development

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initiatives. Um they've been talking a
lot about different things in in the

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that are coming to Rochester and the
Mayo area and the the different

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projects. I mean that's part of the
reason that we want to see more from

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them. I mean if we were pretty clear
like we want something tangible. You

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know economic development work can be
hard. It doesn't always generate what

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you want it to generate. But doing an
event like for example like that housing

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forum a couple years ago was beneficial.
I told him I said you know you need to

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do something like that regularly because
then I can see what tangibly you know

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even if it you know it's not forcing
someone to build here but at least it's

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it's bringing that tangible thing there.
And it was interesting, you know, I

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think everyone at the meeting was kind
of doing the Minnesota nice thing right

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until the last 15 minutes when I said
that. And then all the other cities kind

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of chimed up and said the exact same
thing. And some of them were even a

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little bit more demonstrative than than
than we were. But but it was it was good

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for them to know like put your money
where your mouth is, you know, kind of a

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» do you need a motion on that? Yes.
>> I would look at a motion to approve the

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second payment.
make the motion to approve that second

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payment.
>> Brian, do we have a second?

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» I will second.
>> Thank you.

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» With the provision that I would like to
see like at the end of the year, are we

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getting anything out of this?
>> Sure.

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» Sounds good to me.
>> Yeah, I agree. So, we have a motion to

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second. All in favor? I
>> oppose. Thank you.

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» Excuse me.
>> You guys use your microphone.

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» Oh, sorry, Dave. Thank you.

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All right. Um, next planning commission
public works preliminary and final plat.

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» Yes. So, at the planning commission
meeting just last Monday, we did have a

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public hearing to discuss the
preliminary plat of the public works

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subdivision. Um, I'll just show it up
here on the map. So, you're all familiar

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with the public works site. It's
actually uh right now it's just one

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parcel just shy of 80 acres out on 16th
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Um so it includes the actual public
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and everything, the wastewater treatment
facility, um quite a lot of open space

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um in the middle areas and the far
extent to the north. Um and some wooded

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acreage on the um the east side of
Masten Creek up over here. Um so with

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this preliminary plat um it would divide
the entire parcel up into um five

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different parcels labeled 1 2 3 4 and
five um as you can see on the plaid up

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here. Um so a couple things with this
proposal.

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Um since
access is only provided via 16th Street

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Northeast and then a drive that comes
off of it. Um some of these lots are

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going to not have direct um frontage off
of the public street. Um so to remedy

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that situation um we do have an access
easement running through um the entirety

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of the lot, almost the entirety of the
parcel um which would provide access to

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um those lots that don't have the the
exact um access off of the public

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street. Um so you'll see in the
resolutions we've got a couple of

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things. Um one is just um making sure
that the declaration that's included in

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the packet as exhibit B. Um having the
city attorney review that and

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everything. Make sure it's all ship
shape before um we actually move to

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record the plat and the access agreement
to go the access easement to go with it.

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Um let's see. There were a few comments
that came up during the public hearing.

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Um,
some of them having to do with this

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proposed lot five um down in the
southeast corner. Um, right now it's

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it's just wooded acreage. Um, I did
share that one proposal by the city was

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to um develop it possibly as a single
family residential housing. Um, however,

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a lot of those present felt that it
would be better utilized as a public

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city park. Um, but I just want to
reiterate that, um, the single family

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housing was just a proposal. Um, and the
effect of approving these plat lock, um,

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that proposal in by any means. Um, so I
just want to share that with everyone.

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Um, and then there were some comments
about the land owners out here to the

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east. Um, they expressed wanting to have
some access to a portions of their

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property, although it also sounded like
they did have access already. um um

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little bit of a a situation there, but
um even with that

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I think I don't think there were any
issues that would have um there weren't

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any issues that the planning commission
felt um would have prevented them from

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recommending approval of these plat. So
um in your packets you do have the

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preliminary and final plat together um
separate resolutions for each um any

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questions.

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No questions.
So we need to prove the preliminary

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plant first,
right? That's right. So, I would guess

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I'd look for a motion to approve the
preliminary plan for the cast and public

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works subdivision.
>> Make that motion. Ryan, do we have a

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second?
>> I'll second.

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» Sheldon. All in favor?
>> I.

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» Next. Uh, the final plat.
We look for a resolution to or a motion

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to approve that resolution.
>> Make the motion. Brian, do we have a

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second?
>> A second.

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» Thank you, Sheldon. All in favor?
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» I
>> Thank you. Um

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the exhibit B the the access agreement,
you'll need Is there any questions or

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concerns in that from anybody?
>> Yeah, I mean, as far as access, we do a

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an easement back in there. Um, that is a
waste. That is our water treatment

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plant. You know, that's
who comes and goes driving right around

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there. It is off by itself. A little
concerning in my opinion. And granted,

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somebody could go back there, but
anyway, there's no gates, right?

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» Well, the the plant is gated off.
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» the plant is. So, then this road would
kind of go along that just know. So, I

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don't know if you you can't really see
the fence on there, but it is fenced

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there. And they actually I think earlier
this year we reinstalled new gates

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there. So they're those are the ones
they they got approved in I think

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February. But yeah, so this does kind of
head up behind Berts but there kind of

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between where they store some of the the
soil borings and things like that. But

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» but yeah,
>> that was the only concern. Just little.

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» Mhm.
>> Well, and it's all property still owned

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by the city,
>> right? Correct.

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» And the far is the far lot. That's
farther north. Lot one. Is that where

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the
>> Yeah, on the west side of that. That's

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» is the solar, right?
>> That's right.

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» Brandon, mayor, if I could.
>> Yes.

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» Um, just to be clear, um, you mentioned
to access anybody going back there. So,

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if we have an access agreement, that's
only going to be dedicated to that

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property. So, it's not going to be
necessarily public access. It's going to

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be access just for that specific
property. So, if they were to put solar,

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whatever, up there, um, or farm it as it
is today, be accessed just for that

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property owner. So that'll be in the
access agreement. So it's not a public

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access.
>> I'm good.

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» Everybody's gone through and looked over
the specifics of the agreement.

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So
with that, I guess I would take a motion

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to approve.
>> Make the motion to approve.

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» Ryan, do we have a second?
>> I'd second.

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» Thank you. No. All in favor? I
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» thank you.
>> Next up, old business.

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» Colarium.
I'll just preface this and I'll let

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Linda and Ian take over because I mean
maybe Linda probably the one here. Um,

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so this is a project we talked a little
bit uh earlier this year about um

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possibly doing an improvement at the
cemetery site by adding Colar and we're

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seeing a lot more of the cremations and
um so this is a this is a kind of a want

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not a need but we do think it would
extend the life of um letting people

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obviously have burials here in Cassen.
Um so I think that Linda and Ian work

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together and Linda I'll let you take it
over there. She's included the one that

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she thinks might be the best choice to
start with I think. Is that kind of what

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you're looking at Linda? It is it is
that is um the one that Ian and I kind

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of agreed on. Uh the price is on there.
We are responsible for the concrete pad

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foundation that goes on and the crane
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» microphone
>> using grab microphone.

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» Sorry. Sorry.
Um we are responsible for the concrete

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pad that the the uh columbarium will sit
on and the crane rental to lower it onto

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that. Um
each niche

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will hold two.
So if if there's a couple that want to

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be together in one, um the stones are
then etched by the company that we buy

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this for.
Um they are very reasonable and that

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would be they would so that all the
printing and everything is uniform.

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It would all go up to that company. This
company is in

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shoot Krookton.
>> Yeah. Yeah. A Minnesota company.

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» A Minnesota company.

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Yep. So this is the 64 niche. So there's
room for 128 people.

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» So it averages out to about $1,000.
>> What

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» averages out was estimated cost is 64.
>> That's for the concrete pad and the

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crane rental.
>> Just the pad. Oh going down.

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» No, the 64,000. That's only for the
colarium. That's not the cement pad and

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the crane rental.

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» It is more expensive. Um, we would
charge more for this too cuz right now a

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cemetery lot is $775.
We were thinking if they bought a niche

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um to raise it up to $2,000
because then they could put two in there

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and it would be then like $1,000 per
person, but charge $2,000 for each

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niche.

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Um the cemetery is nothing that we ever
make money on.

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Uh we're lucky if we ever break even.
Um, but Tim found, where did you find

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the money?
>> I I think, you know, we're planning

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using some of the reserve funds there.
You know, it's one of those things

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where, you know, people come and they
still want to be buried here if they can

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be. And, you know, you're running out of
lots that are desirable lots and like I

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said, we're seeing the cremation. So,
like I said, at the end of the day, it's

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a want. It's not something that you have
to approve. I think isn't going to

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necessarily cost the taxpayers anything.
You know, we'll we'll use the reserve

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funds from the cemetery. Um but you know
if you you don't want to do it you know

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that's fine too. It's something we've
talked about for a couple years just

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sort of kicked around and you know the
question is do we want to pursue it or

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not? If we don't then you know I don't
you know I think staff has brought you

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what they found and
>> we've been we've been putting we've put

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new fencing in. We've tried to keep
making updates. This sounds like a good

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one if we can use
>> right. Our goal is to try and keep that

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as attractive as it can be you know and
and I think you know we've been able to

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do that over the last couple years for
sure.

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» How many
>> We're not out of lots. We we actually we

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have a lot left. Um there's a lot along
the trailer court side that are on that

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side. There's um some on the west road
down towards the front and there's some

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back in the souththeast corner. I mean
we must have

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three 400 lots left,
>> right?

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» How much
>> we have a lot.

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» How much space does this take up? I
mean, how many lots would we have to

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take out of lots and turn to this?
>> We would only take out one block, which

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is eight lots.
>> Eight lots. Okay.

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» We put it towards the front by the uh
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» building there.
>> Why did you pick 64 versus the 96

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or
>> cost?

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» Cost. Okay.

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I'd like before we would go forward with
this, I would like a little bit of a

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number on a concrete pad and crane
rental. Just a rough estimate. You know,

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if we could bring that back to a next
meeting just so we have an idea of what

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we possibly
>> cost. Yeah,

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» I know it's an estimate. It won't be
exact, but I think that would

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» we should be able to come up with
something.

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» Yeah.
So, if we could have that by the next

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meeting, we could just table us until
then.

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» I can do that.
>> Well, I'm fine with that. We want to

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make sure you guys get all the
information you need.

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» All right. Thank you. Up next, old
business. We got the fireh hall rental.

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So, we've discussed this a few times.
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I guess
my opinion is we we said that let staff

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pick a rate for a nonprofit and bring it
back to us

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and then, you know, cuz they seem to
know exactly what goes into each thing.

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So that would be my recommendation is
we'd let staff set it right and bring it

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back and forward it on.
But any thoughts from everybody else?

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» That's fair. We want to find a good plan
for this and

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» sure we're helping people but also not
>> hurting anyone.

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» Yes, that's our goal. I mean we want to
make sure that it works for everybody.

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» Yep.
>> Am I allowed to ask a question?

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» Yeah. Are you talking fireman staff?
like the staff of the fire department.

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» We're we're looking at if a nonprofit
rate for when people want to use the

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fire room, right?
>> Where the truck bay is.

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» Yeah.
>> Yep.

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» So, who's going to make that decision?
>> We'll have staff direct staff.

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» Yeah. We will talk to the fire the fire
department as well, ministry of staff.

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Yep.
>> Yep. So, that way the whole fire

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department
>> So, basically, you're talking you want

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to create a nonprofit rate and you want
us to try and talk to them, see what

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kind of number we can come up with.
>> Yes. Okay. and make it work

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for everybody. No pressure. So, if you
could bring that back,

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» if anybody has any other questions, I
mean, I guess that, you know, we talked

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about it last time and I know,
>> you know, it's a question of do you want

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to do the nonprofit rate or not?
>> I think we do. I think we do. I think we

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have enough interest from folks for
that. So, I think that's probably fair.

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And then I know Linda has been looking
at it and she's talked with uh, you

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know, people about things, too. And so,
yeah, I think that should be something

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that we can come up with. them. Um,
you know, the biggest push back is going

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to be from folks who are from the
general public who are going to say,

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"Well, why do we have to pay which is
probably going to be more, you know, if

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they're using the same facility?" I
mean, that's that's just so you're

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aware, that's probably the biggest push
back would be is, well, if I'm doing X,

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Y, and Z, why do I have to pay more? And
I mean, I think, you know, the argument

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has to be, well, the nonprofits are
providing a service to the to the

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residents or to the community. Um, and
that's if somebody came in, that's what

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I would tell them. might say, "Well,
that's why the council decided to do a

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nonprofit rate as well as the regular
rates."

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» Yeah. Do we set that where do we draw
that line on the non where the nonprofit

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go? That would be an important thing to
me. Is it local

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» kind of a thing? That would be
>> Well, I mean that's the hard part like

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00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:56,159
because if you set a nonprofit rate,
it's not going to matter whether it's,

415
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,640
you know, the folks at Carisher or one
of the other, you know, local ones or if

416
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,200
it's,
>> you know, the Eagles Teleathon or

417
00:32:59,919 --> 00:33:04,320
something like that, you know. I mean, I
think you probably have to just kind of

418
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,720
have one. I mean, because you don't want
to do an out of town nonprofit or

419
00:33:05,679 --> 00:33:09,360
something. I just think you get to be
too,

420
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:13,600
» but we were adding a caveat that they
have to have the firemen there. They're

421
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,679
they're hiring the firemen. So, as long
as the firemen are there,

422
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,000
» right?
>> That's the caveat that goes with these

423
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,600
nonprofits
>> because it is all it is the fire

424
00:33:19,919 --> 00:33:26,159
department's equipment and they have to
maintain it, move it, bring it back in

425
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,760
and be there to m to supervise it. That
was the whole

426
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,440
» We want to make sure they're 100%
comfortable with what's going on

427
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:36,159
» because I know the fire department has
said in the past that they've didn't

428
00:33:34,159 --> 00:33:40,320
want to rush we weren't able to support
the um you know function last year from

429
00:33:38,399 --> 00:33:42,720
post you know the post problem because
it

430
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:45,120
» it didn't fit very well with what the
fire department wanted to have. So

431
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:49,200
» yeah.
>> So

432
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:54,159
» so is just so that I'm crystal clear on
this I mean both of these instances the

433
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:58,799
the fire relief association is gaining a
benefit because of the sale of alcoholic

434
00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:04,000
beverages. What happens if we have a
group that wants a nonprofit that wants

435
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:08,320
to come in and use the entire facility,
but they are not selling alcoholic

436
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:14,000
beverages and therefore there's no
benefit to the fire relief association.

437
00:34:11,839 --> 00:34:20,000
» That's where the caveat comes in where
as long as the firemen

438
00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:22,560
» are there in some
as hired as some

439
00:34:21,839 --> 00:34:26,720
» okay
>> um it

440
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:32,639
for some event. Okay.
>> Because both the the Blaine Halverson

441
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:36,800
and the Karen share hire well not hire
but have the firemen there and the

442
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:42,240
firemen get the profits from there but
the firemen are there and that's where

443
00:34:39,359 --> 00:34:46,639
any nonprofit that came in would have to
have the firemen there in some capacity.

444
00:34:45,919 --> 00:34:53,200
» Okay.
>> As long as the firemen agree, I would

445
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:57,680
think that they're going to be there in
some capacity. I don't know. Maybe

446
00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:01,599
they'd have firemen, I don't know,
watching bounce houses or I I don't

447
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,240
know, you know,
>> something that I mean, the fire

448
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,560
department is going to have to talk to
us. They're going to they're going to

449
00:35:05,359 --> 00:35:09,359
have to communicate with us like saying,
"Okay, yes, we're going to be there."

450
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,680
They're okay with it because in the long
run, I mean, I'm not moving the trucks

451
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,480
in and out. I don't have the ability to
do it myself. They're going to have to

452
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:18,240
be there. So, yeah.
>> Linda, how many nonprofits would you say

453
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:23,160
we have renting that space now?
>> Oh, these are the only two.

454
00:35:19,839 --> 00:35:23,160
» Two. Okay.

455
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:29,200
You guys came in last time. Is this are
we moving towards the direction you were

456
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:33,520
hoping to or is this
>> I mean absolutely. I think so. I mean I

457
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:37,839
think just taking the effect of like
thinking critically about the nonprofits

458
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:41,680
and how we like we definitely all of
this funding goes right back to KM

459
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:45,760
residents. So I think I love that idea
and it just gives us more money to be

460
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:50,000
able to put back into the community. I
mean and we understand the fire the fire

461
00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:53,359
department is incredibly helpful. Um
they're wonderful men and women that are

462
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:58,720
there every you know the last two years
for us and so um I mean if we can get it

463
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:02,160
as low as possible that's the goal right
I mean I realistically I know it costs

464
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:05,839
money for us to be there and I
understand that and I I definitely want

465
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:09,680
the city and the fire department to
break even but if we can come to

466
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:14,000
something of like not making a profit
off of it that would be I mean

467
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:18,320
preferable you know because none of us
are trying to make a profit you know our

468
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:21,520
caterer is donating 15 to 20% back to us
this where you know everybody is

469
00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:25,760
donating something. So that's I think
what we're looking for is just like a

470
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:29,680
break even cost would be awesome
>> because we we do give a lot back to the

471
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:33,359
community.
>> Yeah. No problem.

472
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,599
» Yeah, I think I think we should be able
to have some for you on the 9th.

473
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:41,040
» Perfect. Yeah.
>> Try and have this all finalized.

474
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:47,839
» Thank you.
>> Up next, uh request for proposal for

475
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:49,760
auditors. You'll see those in your
packet.

476
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:55,040
» Yeah, I'll let Sarah talk to that.
>> Yeah. So, we sent out an email to eight.

477
00:36:52,480 --> 00:37:00,560
We got three back and you can see the
the pricing in there.

478
00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:06,560
There's really no decision to make
because of the differential. So,

479
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:11,440
resonate. It was significantly cheaper.
>> Yeah.

480
00:37:09,359 --> 00:37:17,880
They're
thousands of dollars cheaper.

481
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,880
» 10 and $13,000. Yeah.

482
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:26,960
» Anybody got any questions for Sarah?
>> Give me a motion.

483
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:34,240
» So, if not, I guess I would look for a
motion to approve a three-year

484
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:37,760
commitment with Conresnic for our annual
audit.

485
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:41,280
» I'll make the motion.
>> I'll second.

486
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:45,280
» Thank you, Ryan. All in favor?
>> I I

487
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:50,240
» Thank you. Thank you for reaching out to
him and getting back. Appreciate it. And

488
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:54,880
I don't think that was much different
than the past contracts.

489
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:57,680
» Yeah, apparently the last time it was
similar.

490
00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:03,520
» Yeah.
All right.

491
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:08,839
Uh up next, we got the 2012 joint powers
agreement with Dodge County on the ice

492
00:38:05,839 --> 00:38:08,839
arena.

493
00:38:09,359 --> 00:38:17,119
We're looking at I'd like a motion to
direct staff pursuant to the 2012 joint

494
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:20,640
powers agreement that a city is exe
executing its right to end its current

495
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:26,960
position as the operator of the Dodge
County Ice Arena. So in our contract we

496
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:33,280
have to give them a fourmonth notice if
we would like to talk to and change the

497
00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:37,680
contract.
So

498
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:44,480
that was just
I would look for a motion to have staff

499
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:48,160
notify the county
>> that we would like to discuss

500
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:52,000
» like to discuss the terms of the Yes.
>> I'll make that motion.

501
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:56,880
» We have a motion. Do we have a second?
>> A second.

502
00:38:54,000 --> 00:39:01,040
» There any other questions? Not I would.
All in favor? I

503
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:03,599
» I
>> reach out to stat county.

504
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:10,160
» Thank you.
>> Thank you. All right. New business. We

505
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:13,320
have the SRO agreement.
This is

506
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:19,200
» so both the uh KM and the Z SRO
agreements are similar to the last

507
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,960
agreements we had for the last two
years. Um only changes are some uh

508
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:27,920
statutory changes that we had to add for
language for SRO duties. And about the

509
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:32,560
financial changes too.
>> Uh ju just the the same percentages that

510
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:35,520
we had before.
>> What are the differences in language

511
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:39,320
that were statutory?
>> All the SRO duties

512
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:48,680
» which we were already doing that stuff
was just reporting into the contract.

513
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:54,839
Is this a two-year contract?
>> Two two years each. Yes.

514
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,359
Just as a reminder, the cameras don't
turn on while they're in the building

515
00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:01,280
talking to kids. They when they wear
their cameras,

516
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,320
» those aren't
>> that's up to them if they want to

517
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,760
activate it for some reason. So, if they
think it's could be a criminal event,

518
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,960
then they would. It's not be it's not
recording 24/7.

519
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:14,240
» Yeah. Okay.
>> And the schools has gone through the

520
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:19,599
contract.
>> Uh CAM has already agreed to it and said

521
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:24,560
they have uh their next meeting.
>> Okay. Okay.

522
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:28,160
meetings tomorrow.
>> Okay.

523
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:34,599
» I work there.
>> Okay. Um, does anybody else got any

524
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,599
questions for the chief on SRO?

525
00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:40,079
» Okay. Do we have to approve of both or
one?

526
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:44,000
» Make one motion to approve both the Z
SRO agreement and the KM SRO agreement.

527
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:49,599
» So, I'd look for a motion to approve
both SRO agreements. One with Cass and

528
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:52,880
Manavville School and one with the Zed.
>> Do I have to abstain since I work for

529
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:57,520
the district? Hope so.
>> I was gonna say

530
00:40:55,200 --> 00:41:00,640
I have no position as far as I know.
>> No, I don't.

531
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:04,000
» The bone and get him a camera over
there. He'll be all set. You know,

532
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:08,000
» I never thought to ask that after 5
years. I probably thought I should have.

533
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:11,359
Okay. Doesn't hurt to ask, but no, you
should be good.

534
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:13,920
» Get in trouble. I'll make the motion to
approve.

535
00:41:12,319 --> 00:41:17,359
» We have a motion. Do we have a second?
>> I'll second.

536
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:21,240
» Thank you, Sheldon. All in favor? I
>> oppos. Thank you.

537
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:29,920
budget presentation.
So, so earlier tonight, obviously, we

538
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:34,720
had our long range uh planning meeting
with Mr. Rubani. Um we did uh meet with

539
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,920
department heads, spent a lot of time
and Sarah spent a lot of time meeting

540
00:41:36,319 --> 00:41:42,079
with them in data entry. So, I
appreciate her work on that. Um think

541
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:45,599
we've uh this is kind of our first look
at the budget. And included in your

542
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:49,040
packet, you have a couple of items. Um
one is kind of what I call the budget in

543
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:53,119
brief. It's just the top sheet. It shows
you the the numbers from the library,

544
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:57,359
the general fund, economic development,
um the debt service, capital levies, as

545
00:41:55,520 --> 00:42:04,480
well as the tax abatement levies. Um and
you can see there the numbers um biggest

546
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:10,880
changes in the budget for um 2027 or
healthcare that continues to be an area

547
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:16,640
of uh increased cost. I think right now
what was the projection, Linda? Uh I

548
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:20,880
think we put in the budget 20% but um
Bill was talking 12 to 15.

549
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:24,560
» So we're hoping that that can drop down
but I know as council's kind of guide in

550
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:28,880
the past to be conservative with that.
Um so you know and last year we did have

551
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:33,280
a really large deductible increase too
which has mitigated some of that but um

552
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:38,240
so anyway that's a big increase. Uh the
other is the uh police department with

553
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:41,359
that position as you're you're aware um
that was added. So there's a little bit

554
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:46,880
larger than standard jump in their
budget too. Um otherwise, you know,

555
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:51,440
overall debt levies are flat. Um you
could see there that that's not changing

556
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:55,520
much. Um the library fund does have a
little increase too and part of that is

557
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:59,599
their health care as well. Um you know,
and and the tough part about for them is

558
00:42:57,599 --> 00:43:03,200
so much of their budget is staff. You
know, probably I don't know 85% of their

559
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:07,040
budget actually comes down to healthcare
and wages for their staff. And so the

560
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:11,520
truth is even when somebody just
switches from single coverage to family

561
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:15,520
coverage, you know, that's 12 to $20,000
a year depending on what option they

562
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:19,119
pick. So I mean, you know, the they do
the department heads to do the best job

563
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,440
they can going off of previous years, as
you're aware. You know, libraries had

564
00:43:20,319 --> 00:43:24,079
some changes in staffing over the last
three years, too. So, and they're going

565
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,319
to continue to have some changes in
staffing. I don't know. I think we'll

566
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:29,839
get that probably in our next packet. We
do have a library staff person who's,

567
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:33,520
you know, taking a different position.
So, you know, they, you know, they do

568
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,720
the best they can, but that is why they
see a little bit larger jump than

569
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:42,000
normal. Um, most of it's related to
wages and benefits there. Um, so, you

570
00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:45,359
know, I I think, you know, we're at, you
know, a number that's it's well under

571
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,480
where a lot of cities are coming in. I'm
happy about that. We expect to get it

572
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:51,599
lower. You know, as those healthcare
numbers come in, they firm up. That'll

573
00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:56,079
be something that we'll be gladly glad
to cut. Um, otherwise, um, we do have

574
00:43:54,079 --> 00:44:00,800
the clear doc document in there and
Sarah can bring it up maybe or do you

575
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:04,240
have access to bring it up, Ian? I do.
>> Um, and Sarah can talk to any points

576
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,839
that she wants to highlight there, too.
I think it's um, you know, you've got

577
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,839
the PDF in your packet, but also the
link is available online and I think

578
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,359
send
>> everybody the link.

579
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,760
» Yeah, I think she emailed it out to
everybody. We will have that on the

580
00:44:12,319 --> 00:44:17,200
city's web page and we also will put
that on Facebook. So, if members of the

581
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:21,680
public want to take a look at the budget
and it's got the um, audited financials

582
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:25,280
from 25. It's got this year's budget
number and then it has the budget number

583
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:28,640
for 27. So, people will be able to see
kind of that that bar chart and the

584
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:34,319
graphs. they can kind of see where the
trend is. Uh we don't have a lot of

585
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:36,640
capital items next year. Um in fact um
you know there are a number of areas

586
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:41,359
where they're they reduce their capital
cost to a certain extent. Um and you

587
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:44,880
know we're hoping that interest rates
come down a little bit as well as fuel

588
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:48,640
cost. Fuel cost is something that was
kind of an unplanned force spike this

589
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:53,280
year. Um and that's on a federal level.
There's not a lot of control we have

590
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:55,680
over that. Um so some departments see a
lot more use of that. Obviously the

591
00:44:54,400 --> 00:45:00,000
police department sees a lot more use
there. They also have some more capital

592
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:04,240
items. I know that. Um and and the good
news is Josh is going to present that in

593
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:08,079
September. He'll be here. I think we're
planning on uh the police department and

594
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:12,319
also public works parks. So, some of the
biggest general fund line items will be

595
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:15,839
here to talk about their their needs
because there's a lot of technological,

596
00:45:14,319 --> 00:45:20,480
you know, changes coming for Josh and
for the body warn cameras that kind of

597
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:25,599
that data stuff is still um I don't want
to say it's it's exploding in cost, but

598
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:28,640
you know, it's going up pretty fast and
we're hoping that if we lock in some

599
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,680
longer term agreements, maybe it'll kind
of mitigate some of those costs, but it

600
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:36,480
seems like every year there's another
thing the state requires or something

601
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:40,400
like that. So um yeah, otherwise we
consider the staff to be fully staffed

602
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:44,800
at this time. There is um if you look at
the admin budget, um we do have some

603
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:49,920
additional money for training there um
for additional staffing. We we have been

604
00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:54,240
notified that one of our staff uh will
be retiring, two of them actually in the

605
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,960
next year or so. But um we want to be
able to possibly bring some people on a

606
00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:01,760
little early to do some training in
house because um last time on the

607
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:06,960
finance department it was difficult um
hiring outsource. Thankfully, we have

608
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:11,520
some good um you know, clerk um kind of
employees possibly may be able to fill

609
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:14,640
Linda's job internally. Um but you never
know. And we just felt like it would be

610
00:46:13,359 --> 00:46:17,200
it would be beneficial to have that
budgeted um ahead of time just so

611
00:46:16,319 --> 00:46:21,920
because we know that those those
vacancies are coming in the next 18

612
00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:24,079
months. So,
I don't know, Sarah, if you have

613
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,000
anything else you want to highlight on
there. No,

614
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,880
» if you want.
>> But yeah, take a look at it. You know,

615
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:32,640
we'll have those department head
presentations in September. Um, as I

616
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:35,359
said, hopefully did we would we know
when healthcare is coming in? Did we get

617
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:38,160
that earlier date?
>> Coming till October.

618
00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:41,599
» October. Okay. I know in the past we've
we haven't gotten till next year. We're

619
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:45,359
going to change it so we get our numbers
in July. We're going to change it to a

620
00:46:43,359 --> 00:46:49,440
December 1st start date.
>> Like to see some highlight.

621
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:54,000
» The insurance would go through the end
of the year, but the rates would change

622
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:59,680
December 1st, but that means we get our
new rates July 1st.

623
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:08,800
» It's okay. So, your HSA plan, your
insurance runs calendar year, but um the

624
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:13,440
the um rate change would start December
1st

625
00:47:10,319 --> 00:47:20,400
where next year when we do this,
we can actually stay in the 27 rate. So,

626
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:26,079
whatever we get for next year, we would
renew at that same rate.

627
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:29,680
» Okay.
the way Bill was explaining it to me.

628
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:33,680
» So,
>> because we wouldn't change plans, we'd

629
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:38,640
just keep going.
>> Okay.

630
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,720
» So, that's our plan for next year.
>> Yeah.

631
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,599
» Because that would make budgeting a lot
easier.

632
00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:44,800
» Yeah.
>> Right. To to know earlier would give us

633
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:47,839
that shity. Absolutely.
>> So, yeah, if you have any questions,

634
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:51,680
feel free to contact me or contact
Sarah, reach out to her. Um, glad to run

635
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:55,520
through it with you. If you want to go
line by line, we can do that. you know,

636
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:59,200
it's easier when we do it one-on-one or
two-on-one or whatever, but you know, uh

637
00:47:57,839 --> 00:48:03,440
the budget's all going to be available
online and uh you know, we're certainly

638
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:08,440
looking for feedback on it, hoping that
uh we can get that number whittleled

639
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:08,440
down. Absolutely. So,

640
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:16,960
» all right. Thank you for all that work
on that.

641
00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:21,599
Uh next, administrators report.
>> Sure. And I'll just uh highlight a few

642
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:25,280
things here kind of um LGA announced uh
the new amounts there. Uh our numbers

643
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:28,880
are pretty flat. You know, it's they
didn't do any increase at the state

644
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:31,440
level. Um so it's it's pretty flat, but
thankfully that's been certified. So

645
00:48:30,319 --> 00:48:35,200
we'll receive that funding for next
year. That still is a good chunk of

646
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:39,200
change there. Uh state revenue tops the
forecast by about 400 million in July.

647
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:42,640
So Minnesota Management and Budget
released their report. So, you know, it

648
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:46,400
sounds like their numbers are
stabilizing. So that's a that's a

649
00:48:44,319 --> 00:48:50,079
positive. Obviously, they'll have their
their late November, early December

650
00:48:48,319 --> 00:48:52,720
report, and they'll use that for their
next two-year budget. So, the state's

651
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:58,800
kind of in the middle of their benium
budget. Um the 27 street and utility

652
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:03,040
projects. Um thankfully, we're coming to
a close. Uh hopefully, right, give

653
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:06,640
Brandon some thanks there for pushing
and proddding people along. But, um

654
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:09,680
Southwest Reconstruct that it's been all
paved. The the bottom coat is anyways.

655
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:13,440
They haven't got the top coat on as far
as I know yet. A lot of the sod's been

656
00:49:11,359 --> 00:49:17,119
laid out there. Um, Main Street, uh,
seal coating and striping, as far as I

657
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:20,400
know, it went very well. You know, we
had some folks who say, "Oh, you know, a

658
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:22,960
lot of the work got done before
businesses even opened up in the

659
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:26,079
morning." So, that was great. I think it
looks really sharp. Um, they did widen

660
00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:30,319
the parking lane, so we're really happy
about that. Um, so that's done. Um,

661
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,640
water tower project, to be honest with
you, the water tower itself has made a

662
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:36,000
lot of progress. We're still kind of
waiting on the booster station, and

663
00:49:33,839 --> 00:49:39,599
that's a matter of when that shows up,
they can hook it up and we can actually

664
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:42,160
get things going. that that's, you know,
something that Brandon can probably

665
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:45,920
answer before me and maybe he can't even
because it's kind of a that's the tough

666
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:49,440
part of the of the uh the market is
supposed to be coming. So,

667
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:52,720
» yeah. So, hopefully that um otherwise uh
the Reagan edition, if you've been up

668
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:56,000
that way, they've made a ton of progress
up there, too. The retaining walls

669
00:49:54,160 --> 00:50:00,240
almost finished. A lot of units have
been built. Um so that you know, and you

670
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,400
know, I haven't been in. I'd like to I'd
like to get in see what one of those

671
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:05,359
units look like because it's it's good
to be able to talk about it. Same thing

672
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:08,720
for the fourth lane flats apartment
building that has some occupants. I

673
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:13,599
don't know how many yet, but it's it's
up and operational. Um, we'll watch how

674
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:17,440
that goes. Um, Brandon's going to talk
about street feasibility. Let's see

675
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:21,839
here. 27 budget. We we kind of talked
about that already. I did include some

676
00:50:19,359 --> 00:50:27,200
numbers in the packet um from Dodge
Cent's audit. So, their ambulance fund

677
00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:30,319
performed well last year, so that's a
plus. Um, you know, I've got a note in

678
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:33,040
here. You know, in the past, we
contributed 5,000 for training

679
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:37,040
equipment. Last year, we contributed
12,000. Um if the city council would

680
00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:40,640
like to continue to contribute at that
higher level um certainly you can direct

681
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:44,480
direct me to you know we we can
certainly see if we can find some

682
00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:47,920
funding for them um you know planning
and zoning talked about that and then uh

683
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:52,000
the farmers market which we'll talk
about during the round table at the end.

684
00:50:49,839 --> 00:50:55,839
So that's my report. Then I've got a
couple other things in here. As I said I

685
00:50:54,079 --> 00:50:59,839
mentioned the Dodge County
>> Yep. My Dodge County ambulance audit uh

686
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:03,440
numbers there. Um we've got our
conservation report from the electrical

687
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:06,559
system. uh the report from the state
revenue projects and then one of the

688
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:10,480
items we talked about with Mr. Bubani
tonight would be that I5 the electrical

689
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:14,400
borrowing and basically what I'm looking
for from council is direction if you'd

690
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,280
like to proceed with that this year or
not. Um otherwise I need to let folks

691
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,160
know that we're not going to be
proceeding with the electrical

692
00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:24,720
borrowing. We kind of will change change
gears. Included in your package you do

693
00:51:21,839 --> 00:51:29,359
have I5 you have that staff report. Um,
basically what this funding would be

694
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:33,920
going for would be the um, substation on
the north side. Last month is a good

695
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:39,280
example where we had that during the
fair, you know, Excel had a a

696
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:45,040
transmission line fail and I think uh,
Kassen was dark pretty much for 2 hours

697
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:48,160
thereabouts from about 6:00 until 8. You
know, there are a couple points of

698
00:51:46,319 --> 00:51:52,559
failure in that system and that was a
big one. Obviously, you know, we run off

699
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:55,280
of um, Excel's transmission system. In
the case of this substation, we'd be

700
00:51:53,839 --> 00:51:58,319
looking at it going off of Simpa's
transmission. Um, Simpa's southern

701
00:51:57,119 --> 00:52:02,079
Minnesota power. They're based out of
Rochester. So, um, we think it might

702
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:05,520
give us an option, you know, opportunity
to have a little bit more diversity in

703
00:52:03,359 --> 00:52:09,040
the in the power supply for the city.
Um, still can't guarantee there's never

704
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:12,160
going to be a failure obviously u when
they have a major transmission line goes

705
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,960
down like that. But, um, that's what
that project that's what the money's

706
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:18,960
for. That's what it's going toward is is
that substation project. So, I know for

707
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:22,400
us, we're looking at direction is as the
council, you know, if if we can get a

708
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:25,760
motion to move forward with that, that's
what we're looking for. Um, Mr. Bonnie's

709
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:29,040
kind of run some of the numbers and he's
got it here for you. We won't be

710
00:52:27,359 --> 00:52:33,040
increasing rates for it. It's a matter
of um we have prepared for that funding

711
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:36,800
wise. So, we think it's a good project
to provide more reliability for the

712
00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:40,480
electric grid.
>> And where is it going again?

713
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:44,400
» Um, well, that's one of the reasons we
approved that plat there for the the

714
00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:49,200
public works. It would actually be going
north of the north of the public works

715
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,520
building. And so there's the the public
works building that fronts off of 16th

716
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:55,040
Street and then there's a building
behind that that's kind of long and it's

717
00:52:53,359 --> 00:52:57,599
got like the salt sand storage. That's
the electrical building right now where

718
00:52:56,240 --> 00:53:01,839
they got most of their stuff stored. So
it would be going north of that.

719
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:06,319
» So what we'd end up doing is right now
we tap off of the on 16th Street we tap

720
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:09,520
off of the Excel sub there. So what we
would do is we would run a high trans

721
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:13,280
high voltage transmission from that
substation, the new one, down onto

722
00:53:11,359 --> 00:53:16,559
Simpa's line, which also runs along 16th
Street, and then that would run over to

723
00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:21,760
the Byron sub where their line goes, and
then their line proceeds into um

724
00:53:19,119 --> 00:53:26,400
Rochester. They also have a 161. So
that's a 69 KV. I know we're using

725
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:29,680
terminology here. 69 KV is it's the
lowest level of high voltage

726
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:33,760
transmission. The next level would be
161. So they also have a 161 line that

727
00:53:31,839 --> 00:53:36,960
runs along the railroad tracks. So if
you kind of if you go out you know if

728
00:53:35,839 --> 00:53:41,200
you can kind of almost you can see it
from 14 when you so the idea would be in

729
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:45,040
the future eventually you know he talked
about second barring potentially the

730
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:49,599
idea would be to create a ring around
castm so you'd have two substations you

731
00:53:47,359 --> 00:53:53,760
have one off of the 161 line and one off
of the 69 so that if you did have

732
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:56,960
something happen for example a tornado
or something like that where it knocks

733
00:53:55,119 --> 00:54:00,240
out one of those substations what you
can do is you can shunt the whole city

734
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:03,119
onto the other one and then you would
have that reliability so you wouldn't

735
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:08,240
see a failure with the
So obviously that's in the future, but

736
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:12,319
we do think that it would be beneficial
long term for for the community. So

737
00:54:10,319 --> 00:54:15,119
because even with all the efficiencies,
the power demand is is not going down

738
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:18,599
and we're still seeing quite a bit of
growth. So

739
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:29,119
» how big would the substation be?
>> What's that?

740
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:32,480
» How big? Um, well, I think it would be
smaller than what Excel's just for

741
00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:35,839
comparison purposes. You know, if you go
past Excel sub, we would it would

742
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:39,839
probably be smaller than that. What we
would probably do is we would we would

743
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:43,359
fence off an area similar to what Excel
has fenced off

744
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:47,839
» and we would have two spots for two
tubs. So, you'd have one 20 megawatt tub

745
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,720
and then you'd have space for another
just because you want to have that once

746
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,280
again the duplicate, you know, and if
you're putting it in then you want to

747
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:56,000
make sure you size it right because
after the fact

748
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,960
» once you, you know, you can't really go
back, you know. So Excel like when they

749
00:54:57,599 --> 00:55:02,480
upgraded their sub three or four years
ago, they had to basically go in and cut

750
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:05,280
down and tear out and put more gravel
and stuff. We think it would be better

751
00:55:03,599 --> 00:55:08,319
just to have that prepared kind of
already ahead. Even if it's just the

752
00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:12,079
fencing, we could put a concrete slab in
there later. That's not a big issue. But

753
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:16,640
um so I mean I would I would guess
that's a 5 acre parcel. So I'm guessing

754
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:20,960
we'd probably look at about uh 3/4 of an
acre to an acre we'd want to maybe have

755
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:23,680
fenced off.
>> I mean I know it's something we need.

756
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:29,880
It's something we've been talking about
for a while. Yeah.

757
00:55:25,839 --> 00:55:29,880
» So, you're looking at lot three.

758
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,160
» Yeah, that's right. Exactly. Yep. That'd
be that lot. That's, you know, behind

759
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,160
there
>> because that's the public.

760
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:40,079
» That's Flood Works and then there's the
electric building and then Yep. That's

761
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:42,720
4.6. It would be part of that. Yep.
Okay.

762
00:55:41,359 --> 00:55:46,079
» And that'd be the other, you know,
consideration is we'd have our battery

763
00:55:44,319 --> 00:55:50,680
storage in that area too potentially.
So, it would work in tandem. Yeah.

764
00:55:54,799 --> 00:55:58,000
What are you you looking for something
tonight?

765
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:01,119
» So yeah, if I can get a motion to
proceed with uh preparing a borrowing,

766
00:55:59,839 --> 00:56:03,920
you know, you're still going to you
know, as you know in the past, Mr. Ruban

767
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:07,040
will bring the documents in. You'll have
an opportunity if something doesn't look

768
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:10,640
right, then at that time we wouldn't
proceed with it, but we want to get that

769
00:56:08,799 --> 00:56:14,640
so I can kind of task him to get moving
on that. Do a rating call um with Sarah

770
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:18,160
and with with Mike and then we'd, you
know, be able to set that up. So

771
00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:21,359
probably early this fall, maybe October,
we would try and commit that borrowing

772
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:25,359
so that it gets on the calendar before
the end of the year.

773
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:30,400
» So just to be super clear, this having
this substation would diversify a little

774
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:34,559
bit more our power coming into town. It
would provide backups for emergencies

775
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:38,880
like we had with that.
>> Absolutely. I mean that that's probably

776
00:56:36,319 --> 00:56:42,319
the biggest the biggest plus to it is,
you know, in an emergency if Simpline

777
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:46,480
Line failed, you could still run off of
Excel if you if you needed to. Right.

778
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:50,240
» Right. And that's you know threequarters
of the year we don't have a lot of

779
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:55,040
issues you know fall winter spring cast
is a very heavy loaded summer it's air

780
00:56:52,559 --> 00:57:00,079
conditioning users and so we go all the
way from 2 and a half megawatts of load

781
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:04,079
on a on a kind of a quiet day in the
winter all the way up to 14 megawatts

782
00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:08,000
potentially of load in the summer. So I
mean it's a you know big big difference

783
00:57:06,319 --> 00:57:13,040
but but yeah I mean that that's where we
want to just provide that option for the

784
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:15,839
residents. So, and
all this borrowing this comes out of the

785
00:57:14,799 --> 00:57:18,880
electric fund.
>> That's right. Yeah. And it's been it's

786
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:22,480
something we do do the rate study every
5 years for. We prepared for it for a

787
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:25,760
project of this nature. Kind of that
handout he's giving you, you know, kind

788
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:30,079
of breaks down where we anticipate it
would be around $630,000 a year in

789
00:57:28,319 --> 00:57:33,280
borrowing, you know, payments. But
that's easily covered by our free cash

790
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:36,079
flow in the electric system right now.
So,

791
00:57:34,559 --> 00:57:39,119
» because I just wanted to make sure that
people know if we were looking at it's

792
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:41,200
not coming out of the levy. It's coming
up.

793
00:57:39,359 --> 00:57:47,160
» No, absolutely not. No. Sep. Totally
separate. And that's not why we run the

794
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:47,160
utilities the way we do. So,

795
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:55,520
» anybody else got any questions for Tim?
Concerns?

796
00:57:53,680 --> 00:58:02,400
» I just think it might be a good idea.
Um, this town isn't getting any smaller

797
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:06,640
and that's one of the things that
creates a big problem in the near

798
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:09,640
future, I see, without having an
upgrade.

799
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:19,599
With that, I would look to for a motion
for staff to move forward with

800
00:58:17,839 --> 00:58:22,079
the electric system borrowing.
>> Electric system borrowing.

801
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:24,880
» I'll make that motion.
>> Thank you, Mel. Do we have a second?

802
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:30,160
» I'll second.
>> Thank you, Sheldon. All in favor?

803
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:33,599
» I thank you, everybody.
>> And that's all I've got. I think that

804
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:37,599
was enough.
>> Okay. Up next we have the engineers

805
00:58:37,119 --> 00:58:41,359
report.
>> All right, more big items. So uh before

806
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:44,720
we jump into the two items on the
agenda, just wanted to note uh water

807
00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:48,640
tower painting. Um the painting
contractor is looking at it um city

808
00:58:46,559 --> 00:58:52,480
staff um citing the location of the
casting logo. So I think I sent uh

809
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:55,599
council location one on the south face,
northeast and northwest corner of the

810
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:59,359
tower. Three logos similar to the way
the other three other two are painted.

811
00:58:57,599 --> 00:59:02,799
Um, so unless council provides other
direction myself and I think I'll have

812
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,680
Ian come out tomorrow morning after our
staff meeting, we'll cite those with the

813
00:59:04,319 --> 00:59:08,319
tower contract unless you guys have
other directions or thoughts. So

814
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:11,839
» I just have a question.
>> Yeah, Ryan. Ryan, he's school's out. So

815
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:17,599
Ian, you're off the hook, but
>> yeah. No, I have we have you worked with

816
00:59:14,799 --> 00:59:21,599
other cities that have looked at
um

817
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:24,799
selling space on their water towers. Uh
we do sell space in our water towers for

818
00:59:23,839 --> 00:59:28,240
uh communications
>> logos.

819
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:33,200
» Um no, I'll be quite honest. Like a
personal level, I'm surprised we haven't

820
00:59:29,599 --> 00:59:35,440
put uh banners and electrical um LED um
sponsorships on our water tower to be

821
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,960
quite honest with you, but that's just
kind of my thing.

822
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:41,280
» That's it's a thing now and I was just
wondering if that's

823
00:59:39,839 --> 00:59:43,359
» I haven't seen any towers that have had
it. Okay. I'm surprised that we haven't

824
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:47,599
to be honest with you.
>> Yeah, I know we we rent space on them,

825
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:50,160
but I more marketing based. Yeah. I
didn't know if that was something that

826
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:53,280
was coming down or if you've heard of
other cities that have looked into it.

827
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:56,000
» It's not or even just you know logos for
you know what

828
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:59,119
» businesses. Yeah. Mhm.
>> Not that we want to but if it brings in

829
00:59:57,839 --> 01:00:03,440
revenue. I didn't know if it was
something that's becoming the norm

830
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:05,920
business. It is
>> yeah

831
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,400
question.
>> Um just lighting them is the only thing

832
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:12,640
that we've seen from the from the ground
up. Rosemont St. Clouds um got a nice

833
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:17,920
one that's lit and then we light one
from St. Charles too there. So, so we

834
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:21,040
can talk about if you know if looks nice
during the day if we want to light that

835
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:25,040
more, we can have that conversation.
>> Yeah, I was just curious area. So,

836
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:27,520
» yeah. No, that they would like that.
>> St. Charles over by the interstate. St.

837
01:00:26,559 --> 01:00:29,680
Cloud on the interstate.
>> I understand that. No, I was just

838
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,640
curious.
>> I'm I'm surprised it hasn't been a

839
01:00:31,359 --> 01:00:36,079
bigger discussion on our history to be
honest with you. So

840
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:38,000
» So, okay. Unless you got any other
comments, we'll plan on doing that

841
01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:41,920
tomorrow.
>> All right. So, I'll jump into the agenda

842
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:46,319
tonight. Um, first item is First and
Second Avenue Northwest Reconstruction.

843
01:00:44,559 --> 01:00:49,920
Um this is something that was discussed
at the council workshop um and also

844
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:53,760
discussed tonight with Mike Bubani in
your financial kind of forecast and

845
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:56,799
foreshadowing. Um so in your council
packet is three items. Number one, the

846
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:59,599
feasibility report. Number two, we're
going to ask for resolution calling

847
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:03,440
public hearing on the improvements. And
then finally, a professional service

848
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:08,640
agreement with WHKS to to start uh doing
some engineering. So um to kind of close

849
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:11,200
on that, um ultimately um that's what
we're going to be asked tonight to start

850
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:14,240
incurring some significant costs for
this project. So, if there's anything

851
01:01:12,319 --> 01:01:17,599
that we need to discuss or delay, um,
now is the time, um, because we're going

852
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,720
to start some significant work on the
project if we move forward, I think

853
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:25,040
tonight. Um, so that's where we're at on
the highest level. Um, to talk about the

854
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:28,319
assessment process. I think we may have
may one counselor that may not be real

855
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:32,400
familiar with it. Um, the other ones
have been part of the process directly.

856
01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:35,680
So, um, it's been been uh, so they're
well aware of it. Um, so tonight is step

857
01:01:34,319 --> 01:01:39,920
number one of the special assessment
process. We're going to um discuss the

858
01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:44,480
report, potentially have the resolution
to approve the report and call the first

859
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:48,000
hearing on the improvements. Um and that
will be a hearing about a month from now

860
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:50,960
at your council meeting to thumbs up or
thumbs down the project. After a hearing

861
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:55,359
with the property owners, I'll do a
presentation going over this report. Um

862
01:01:53,119 --> 01:01:59,920
you'll hear comments um and then you'll
have a decision to continue on at that

863
01:01:57,359 --> 01:02:02,240
point. Um assuming we are moving on. Um
we will work through the winner. We'll

864
01:02:01,119 --> 01:02:05,280
have a polar meeting with the property
owners. We will bid the project. we'll

865
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:08,880
get some better cost and then you'll
have the final hearing on the

866
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:11,760
assessments which is the drop dead we
have to decide the assessments we're

867
01:02:10,079 --> 01:02:14,960
going to talk about some numbers tonight
um but we're not setting those if

868
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:18,240
there's questions comments that we want
to bring to the first hearing more than

869
01:02:16,319 --> 01:02:20,799
happy to do that um so we're not you
know the more clear that we can be

870
01:02:19,599 --> 01:02:24,079
throughout the process the better
because we are proposing special

871
01:02:22,319 --> 01:02:28,079
assessments and that can be politically
unpopular um or it takes political

872
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:32,000
capital to do that uh we all know why we
we do do that um so that's that's where

873
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:35,040
we're at on the highest level um so if
there's no questions I'll jump into the

874
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:40,000
report um and then obviously have
questions at the end um as needed. Okay.

875
01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:43,920
Um so again this is First and Second
Avenue Northwest reconstruction um is

876
01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:48,559
what we're calling it. Um this is
ultimately and there's a figure um one

877
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:53,839
in the report but uh is bounded by Third
Avenue um to the west which has been

878
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:57,200
recently reconstructed in 2017. Uh Main
Street to the south that was recently

879
01:02:55,280 --> 01:03:00,640
reconstructed in the early 2000s. It's
not so recent anymore but generally a

880
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:03,119
newer street and we've been providing
some maintenance on that to maintain

881
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:06,559
that street here. here as we talked
about tonight. Um and then on the east

882
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:10,000
of Highway 57, which obviously has been
reconstructed in the last couple years,

883
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:14,319
um full reconstruction up to Third
Street. Um so kind of three blocks north

884
01:03:12,079 --> 01:03:18,559
there. Um and then the two alleys behind
the businesses on Main Street from 57 to

885
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:21,359
2nd Avenue. Um we are not planning from
Second Avenue over to Third because

886
01:03:19,839 --> 01:03:24,960
that's recently been repaved and there's
a small amount of infrastructure. Um so

887
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:29,520
we don't think the bang for the buck is
quite there yet. So staff is comfortable

888
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:34,240
to not um include that alleyway. Um, so
that's what's included uh in the project

889
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:37,599
for footprint. Um, existing conditions.
Um, when I go to public works and say,

890
01:03:35,839 --> 01:03:41,599
"Where's your worst area in town? Where
are we going next?" After we did third,

891
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:45,200
fourth, and fifth, and southwest 57,
it's this area here. Um, if you go down

892
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:50,000
the alleyway now, it's blocked off
because we had another catch basin

893
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:53,520
collapse um by CAM Telecom. Um, if we
fixed one last year, we had a sewer

894
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:57,760
collapse or partially collapse. Um,
every time they jut that, they get a lot

895
01:03:54,799 --> 01:04:02,799
of sand. So, um, it's in a state of dis
disrepair. Um it's had it useful life.

896
01:03:59,839 --> 01:04:07,760
Um some of the streets on the uh first
street going into um HY there is in

897
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:12,079
really rough shape. Um so ultimately
that pavement is in um rough shape. So

898
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:15,599
we're looking at uh replacing that. Um
that's existing condition. Proposed

899
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:18,960
construction very typical of the
previous reconstruction we did in third,

900
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:22,559
fourth, and fifth or southwest. Full
reconstruction rebuilding the roadway.

901
01:04:21,039 --> 01:04:25,680
Um drain tile behind the back of the
curb. Sub drain services. We don't have

902
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:30,480
some pump pumping to the street. New
curb and gutter driveways. um new sewer,

903
01:04:28,319 --> 01:04:34,319
water, um increased storm sewer system
to prevent flooding and reduce the

904
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:38,000
frequency of flooding um like we've done
in um typically all of our

905
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:42,400
reconstructions. Um there is some notes
here. Um we ultimately stubbed out some

906
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:46,559
utilities from third, fourth, and fifth
and 57 um to accommodate that, including

907
01:04:45,039 --> 01:04:50,640
some larger storm sewers. We're kind of
setting this project all up ready to go.

908
01:04:48,799 --> 01:04:53,440
Um and then we also have some long
services that kind of go down the

909
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:57,280
boulevard. We'll extend some mains out.
did that a lot of that on third, fourth,

910
01:04:54,880 --> 01:05:01,680
and fifth um to ultimately so property
owners don't own services all the way um

911
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:04,960
to a side street to kind of square them
up and have them with traditional

912
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:09,200
service. Um there's a couple blocks that
are um don't have um sidewalk. There's

913
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:12,720
some gaps there specifically on First
Street that we're looking at filling. Um

914
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,119
and if you look jumping ahead to the
schedule, we do have a public meeting

915
01:05:14,079 --> 01:05:20,240
coming up. So that's some of the things
we'll talk about. um if you um continue

916
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:23,280
with the first hearing, uh we want to
ultimately sit down with those property

917
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:26,079
owners and and have some conversations
on what they feel about sidewalks. We

918
01:05:24,799 --> 01:05:30,400
feel pretty strong it's in the downtown
district. There's heavy pedestrian uses

919
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:34,559
there directly to our um local H high.
So um we have included that um in our

920
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:39,920
cost estimates, but again tonight we're
considering report. We'll work on final

921
01:05:36,319 --> 01:05:43,440
design back as we proceed. Um street
rightway and easements. Um nothing

922
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:47,520
really of the discuss there of
importance. Uh plenty of cost. You can

923
01:05:45,359 --> 01:05:51,359
see we're at about $4.7 million project
that includes everything. Um, as we said

924
01:05:49,839 --> 01:05:54,960
today of again an engineer looking at
something in a short amount of time just

925
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:59,200
come up with general cost there. Um, and
then recommend recommendations and

926
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:03,200
schedule. We do have a city assessment
policy of 30% total roadway. That's what

927
01:06:01,599 --> 01:06:06,720
we applied on third, fourth, and fifth
southwest. 57 was a little muddled with

928
01:06:05,359 --> 01:06:11,520
the state project, but ultimately we
kind of made it right um of that same

929
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:15,280
amount of a traditional street. Um, so
you can see the total amount to be

930
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:19,680
assessor is just under 800,000 based on
that policy. Um, it's a little bit

931
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:25,200
unique. Um, it's not as residential as
Southwest or third, fourth, and fifth

932
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:29,839
was. Um, but we ultimately apply the RE
unit. Uh, we have 159 which is higher

933
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:32,640
than what we generally see. So again, we
don't need to work on that number yet

934
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:37,200
tonight. Um, as we move forward, that
number comes down and it's a non-issue.

935
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:41,839
Um, but I'll hold on the conversation of
talking about RUS to maybe the end. Um

936
01:06:39,599 --> 01:06:45,680
but ultimately we are proposing our use.
Um we can consider that because we are

937
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:48,160
ultimately assessing um some of the
alleyways. So maybe we want to do that a

938
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:53,200
little differently. It's going to be a
discussion um later on tonight or um in

939
01:06:51,039 --> 01:06:58,480
the future. Um so moving forward to
schedule again um this is the first um

940
01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:02,400
consideration of the feasibility report
and then a resolution to call the public

941
01:07:00,559 --> 01:07:06,559
hearing um on the hearing on the
improvements. We get to work, talk to

942
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:10,960
neighbors, do the design, come back this
winter, um present the plans, go off for

943
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:13,599
bids. We have bids we know hard to
mount. Therefore, we can talk about the

944
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:17,200
final assessment mounts with the
property owners at that time. That'll be

945
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:20,559
this winter. Um and then assuming
everything moves forward, we finalize

946
01:07:19,039 --> 01:07:24,240
the assessments at that hearing. We
award contract we're constructing in 27

947
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:26,880
and finishing things up. And as Tim
mentioned earlier in the meeting, uh we

948
01:07:25,599 --> 01:07:30,240
kind of pair this project down not only
for financing, but what's a realistic

949
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:35,599
project size that a contractor can get
done. Um, so that's what we have before

950
01:07:32,799 --> 01:07:38,559
you tonight. Um, construction cost. I
won't go in detail there, but you can

951
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:43,520
see we broke it up into street,
sidewalk, sanitary sewer, storm sewer.

952
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:46,480
Um, and then water mane um to show the
grand total there. Um, with the idea

953
01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:49,520
that the enterprise funds are going to
be participating in paying for the

954
01:07:48,319 --> 01:07:54,079
project, the portions that are not
assessed. Um, so we break that up to

955
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:57,520
help um Sarah and staff work on that.
Um, and then I'll go to the figure

956
01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:01,839
number one with all the pretty colors on
it. Um, should look familiar. We've um

957
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:07,200
seen these before on 57 and Southwest
and we assess those projects. But uh um

958
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:09,440
in blue is a one RU. Um a house is a
house is a house. We're rebuilding

959
01:08:08,319 --> 01:08:13,440
neighborhoods. Everybody in that
neighborhood if they own a traditional

960
01:08:11,119 --> 01:08:17,359
size house gets one RU um for their
portion. You can see on the westand side

961
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:20,880
there we have some residential houses in
purple that are a half. Um those were

962
01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:24,080
assessed a half with the Third Avenue
project. So we're only going to assess

963
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:28,239
them half to make a hole with the
overriding concept that one RU one

964
01:08:26,480 --> 01:08:32,719
residential equivalent is what they
would be assessed in modern time

965
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:35,839
assessments. Similarly on 57 there in
red we don't have any assessments there

966
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:40,640
because they were assessed a full one
with the 57 project. So um again with

967
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:43,920
the spirit that they're one RU um they
would be zero. Um you can see some other

968
01:08:42,480 --> 01:08:48,239
ones in yellow there. Um those are
currently four RUS. You can see HY um

969
01:08:46,719 --> 01:08:51,759
there would be four. they did get
assessed four on the third avenue in the

970
01:08:50,480 --> 01:08:56,239
back side of their project. So that'd be
eight. Um and that is all broken down um

971
01:08:54,319 --> 01:09:01,440
in the notes in the role that I have on
the next sheet. Um and then similarly

972
01:08:58,719 --> 01:09:06,239
cam telecom there about four houses for
RUS is kind of our thinking there. Um in

973
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:09,199
green there one and a half for those
properties there. They're larger

974
01:09:07,440 --> 01:09:14,640
commercial properties so you know maybe
they have larger needs wer water and

975
01:09:12,159 --> 01:09:20,480
sewer services etc. more frontage um
incurring more cost there is one and a

976
01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:25,279
half reu um similar there for u Denmark
um that property there couple properties

977
01:09:22,799 --> 01:09:28,880
they did get one on the 57 project but
they also have an alley access so there

978
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:34,159
could be potentially some more benefit
there and then all the properties along

979
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:36,719
but budding the alley at a half RU um
they were assessed with Main Street all

980
01:09:35,440 --> 01:09:40,400
their sewer and water services come off
of Main Street but they do have an alley

981
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:44,159
access so the thought there is there's
some benefit to having a new alley and

982
01:09:42,159 --> 01:09:48,480
storm sewer through So I've assigned
that to half. We struggled internally on

983
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:52,080
kind of what we'd recommend. So I think
that could be a point of discussion. Um

984
01:09:50,719 --> 01:09:55,920
but I think it should be something it
shouldn't should not be zero is going to

985
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:59,920
be our recommendation. So if it's a half
0.25 a full one that's unfortunately as

986
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:03,520
a council you guys get to make those
hard decisions. I can only recommend. So

987
01:10:02,159 --> 01:10:07,199
um that's where I that's where I fell on
as a half. I thought that was a good

988
01:10:04,719 --> 01:10:13,040
starting point. Um and ultimately where
where we were at um and we came up with

989
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:18,239
the the RUS we came up with. Um so again
we'll have soon we move forward in that

990
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:21,760
hearing we can start talking about these
REU concept with property owners. This

991
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:24,800
is above and beyond what technically we
have to share with them but myself as an

992
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:27,440
engineer to get the numbers I have to do
it. So let's share it and get it out

993
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:30,800
there early. We've done that on other
projects and then we can start kicking

994
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:36,239
things around on where things land um
after the fact. So, um, that's the

995
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:41,280
pretty picture of the RUS. Um, breaking
that down again to RUS, you take the 30%

996
01:10:38,480 --> 01:10:43,679
of the street cost, calculate your RUS,
um, and then come up with the

997
01:10:42,159 --> 01:10:46,960
assessment. And I do have some notes in
there because it is important. Um, we're

998
01:10:45,679 --> 01:10:50,000
even going to send notices of the ones
that were zeros because, um, they're

999
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:53,679
part of the project. So, I want to be
crystal clear. Um, we owe that to

1000
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:56,800
taxpayers and these property owners why
they'd get zero or why somebody'd be off

1001
01:10:55,520 --> 01:11:01,679
the hook, if you will, will not off the
hook. They got it when we did 57. Um, so

1002
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:05,760
that's why the notes are on there. um to
be transparent. So then you could start

1003
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:07,920
sizing up why, you know, why is HY only
four? Well, they got four on third,

1004
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:11,199
fourth, and fifth. So they're
technically eight. So if eight's the

1005
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:15,600
number, well then let's roll with it. Um
if the council directs otherwise, we can

1006
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:18,320
we can we can adjust and then obviously
when we have the final assessment

1007
01:11:16,719 --> 01:11:22,400
hearing, they can object to that in
person and then we can even we can even

1008
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:25,600
adjust it at that point if needed. So um
that's the the gist of what we got.

1009
01:11:24,239 --> 01:11:29,440
Again, the assessment, I won't go into
that unless you like to go into more

1010
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:32,960
depth. Um but that's the feasibility
report. Um, and I'll pause there, mayor,

1011
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:35,440
if anybody has any questions. Happy to
answer them.

1012
01:11:34,239 --> 01:11:38,440
» So, anybody got any questions for
Brandon?

1013
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:43,120
Okay,
we're good.

1014
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,760
» All right. Easy off. Well, then like I
said, there is a resolution um to call

1015
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:50,320
on the public hearing on the
improvements um ultimately a resolution

1016
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:54,640
laying out um that you've considered it
um deemed it necessary um to ultimately

1017
01:11:52,719 --> 01:12:00,400
move forward with this hearing. Um, and
then attached to the resolution is the

1018
01:11:58,239 --> 01:12:03,600
notice of public hearing. That is the
notice that will be sent to the property

1019
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:06,400
owners. Um, so Linda and I got some work
to get some mailings out to these

1020
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:11,600
property owners. Um, and then the
hearing will be held on September 23rd,

1021
01:12:08,719 --> 01:12:14,880
um, 2026. Um, and the impact assessment
will also go in the newspaper. So, the

1022
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:19,520
special assessment process is pretty
rigorous. Um, and we will send notices

1023
01:12:17,199 --> 01:12:22,239
to property owners in the newspaper um,
based on the assessment role that you

1024
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:27,040
guys has considered. So, I'd ask for
your consideration of that resolution.

1025
01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:31,040
Okay.
I would look for a motion

1026
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:34,320
for the resolution calling a public
hearing on improvements on First and

1027
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:37,440
Second Avenue Northwest reconstruction.
>> I'll make the motion.

1028
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,920
» Ryan, do we have a second?
>> I'll second.

1029
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:43,280
» Mel, all in favor?
>> I.

1030
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:46,400
» All right. Thank you.
>> All right. And then last related to this

1031
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:51,679
item, um, is our engineering contract to
ultimately um, do the engineering from

1032
01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:54,800
start to finish? um meaning survey all
the way through construction including

1033
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:58,080
the work that we just did here tonight.
Um so you can see that professional

1034
01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:02,400
service agreement in your council packet
um includes project management meetings

1035
01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:06,159
um topographic survey feasibility report
we just presented preliminary final

1036
01:13:04,239 --> 01:13:10,719
design assessment assistance we'll work
with staff on getting those assessments

1037
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:14,480
um processed calling the hearing get in
the newspaper etc. um construction

1038
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:18,239
administration, so having weekly
construction meetings, um getting

1039
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:21,760
construction staking, etc., and then
observation, um to observe the

1040
01:13:20,159 --> 01:13:24,880
contractor and report quantities back so
we make payments like we did today on

1041
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:28,400
some other projects, um is all included
in that engineering agreement. So, I'll

1042
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:31,120
pause there and answer any questions you
may have, mayor and councel.

1043
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:35,600
» Does anybody get any questions for
Brandon? No.

1044
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:38,800
» So, we'll look for a motion to approve
the professional service agreements with

1045
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:41,840
the engineering department.
>> I'll make the motion to approve the

1046
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,920
professional service agreement. Brian,
do we have a second?

1047
01:13:43,199 --> 01:13:46,000
» A second.
>> Thank you, Sheldon. All in favor?

1048
01:13:45,679 --> 01:13:49,760
» I
>> I.

1049
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:52,400
» That concludes that item, I think,
mayor.

1050
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:56,400
» So, move on to the second item. Uh, the
2026 lead service line replacement. So,

1051
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:59,120
I think lead service line, I think, we
all should be experts in that now. So,

1052
01:13:57,679 --> 01:14:04,320
it's been a it's been a it's been a
process, but uh past actions for the

1053
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:07,679
council's been um ultimately the the
federal government through the Minnesota

1054
01:14:05,679 --> 01:14:11,120
PFAS um had some funding available for
us to go find services. So we went door

1055
01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:14,400
to door um through our sump pump
inspection program. We had some

1056
01:14:12,159 --> 01:14:18,560
self-reporting um activities. Um we did
some work on the back end looking at

1057
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:21,840
newer houses. Um so we ultimately found
some services that have um in our case

1058
01:14:20,480 --> 01:14:25,120
is galvanized. We don't have any lead
but galvanized is the same as lead in

1059
01:14:23,440 --> 01:14:28,640
their eyes. Um to be ultimately
replaced. You approved us to move

1060
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:32,320
forward with engaging the PFA to
ultimately secure some funding to get

1061
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:37,360
the replacement. So tonight asking for
your consideration of a resolution to

1062
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:41,360
award the bid uh for the 2026 lead
service line replacement project. Um as

1063
01:14:39,679 --> 01:14:46,560
you can see there the low bid is CAM
excavation at 195,841

1064
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:50,000
and I'm sad to report CAM excavation has
nothing to do with KM. It actually is a

1065
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:53,920
contractor out of Mano. So I know we're
getting a local local person but we are

1066
01:14:51,679 --> 01:14:58,159
not. Um and you can see I had nine bids
there um as we bid the project on

1067
01:14:56,080 --> 01:15:01,920
Tuesday. Um, so we surprisingly have
seen a fair amount of these contractors

1068
01:15:00,159 --> 01:15:05,440
bidding the work, which is good. Um, Kim
Excavation also got Manville's um,

1069
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:09,199
project, so we're going to be working
with them. Um, but they're relatively

1070
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:14,000
newer. Um, some of the recent references
I've checked out. Um, so we're prepared

1071
01:15:11,199 --> 01:15:18,400
to recommend them um, to award tonight.
Uh, with that said, I will note on the

1072
01:15:16,159 --> 01:15:21,600
bottom paragraph of the resolution, it
does say conditional approval for the

1073
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:26,400
Minnesota PFA, which is ultimately
paying for this project. Um, and is

1074
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:29,760
ultimately you are, um, resolving
tonight that the proper city official

1075
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:32,320
authorized execute that agreement with
the PFA, which we don't have in our

1076
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:36,080
hands yet. So unless you're
uncomfortable with that, um I think

1077
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:39,440
myself and staff um are ultimately
looking for you guys to approve this

1078
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:43,040
with that condition that we um will
assign that agreement or are authorized

1079
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:47,520
to sign that agreement with the PFA to
ultimately get reimbursed for this work.

1080
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:51,040
Um there's a small chance there be some
cost associated with this project, but I

1081
01:15:49,199 --> 01:15:54,159
don't think we're there yet. Um if
things don't go well, which we're a

1082
01:15:52,480 --> 01:15:57,360
little uneasy about, but it is what it
is. We think most of it will be in re

1083
01:15:55,600 --> 01:16:01,280
reimbured, but if we don't find some
refined some other things, um we'll have

1084
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:06,080
that conversation. But um not too
concerned about that yet. So I'll pause

1085
01:16:03,199 --> 01:16:09,760
there answering any questions there. So
there's if you're there there's a cap on

1086
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:14,320
the amount that you can do per service.
So depending on what we find and we have

1087
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:18,880
some con construction consistency, we
may exceed that which is $25,000 a

1088
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:22,719
service. We're like 18 right now. So
there could be some fluctuation on how

1089
01:16:20,239 --> 01:16:26,719
the bids ultimately are paid out. So if
we exceed that cap, but we're not

1090
01:16:24,239 --> 01:16:31,840
expecting it, but there is a cap on how
things work out. So, um, we have an 10

1091
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:36,960
in there and you can see it's, you know,
it's less than that. So,

1092
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:41,199
and I presumably the city's interested
in the agreement with the PFA to recover

1093
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:43,360
the costly for our property owners. And
we've got a fair amount of

1094
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:46,480
participation, too. We've sent notices
in the agreement that the council

1095
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:51,120
approved to the property owners to
ultimately sign off on us doing the work

1096
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:54,000
before uh we go do the work to limit
some liability in the city side. So,

1097
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:57,360
we're getting those received and some of
our staff have met with those property

1098
01:16:55,199 --> 01:17:01,199
owners too already. So, um, we're off
and running and it's a good service.

1099
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:04,719
Somebody has it. Um, reach out to that
number that's on there, learn about the

1100
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:08,159
service or call city hall to, um, learn
more, have them verify your service cuz,

1101
01:17:06,719 --> 01:17:13,360
um, it's not going to go away if it's if
it's there. So, here's a chance to get

1102
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:17,920
it done for free. So,
okay. Does anybody got any questions for

1103
01:17:15,679 --> 01:17:22,400
Brandon on this?
I would take a motion to approve the

1104
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:28,520
resolution awarding
the bid for the 20 26 lead service line

1105
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,520
replacement.

1106
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,600
» Thank you, M.
>> We have a second.

1107
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:36,400
» Second.
>> Thank you, Ryan. All in favor?

1108
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:40,400
» I opposed. Motion carried. Thank you.
>> It's all I had tonight. 16th Street

1109
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:44,000
should be other than I guess not all I
had tonight. All other than 16th Street

1110
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:46,800
should be open here I think next week.
So I think they just got some signage.

1111
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:49,760
They striped it. So people are still
going down it. I seen they put the road

1112
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:52,320
close sign back up.
>> Yeah. So,

1113
01:17:51,199 --> 01:17:55,440
» got around that pretty.
>> Are we putting no parking signs

1114
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,280
» on the 8th?
>> Yes.

1115
01:17:55,840 --> 01:18:00,080
» Yeah. They're they're going to be in I
think tomorrow or early next week.

1116
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:02,000
» Yeah. In the bike lane.
>> The countyy's putting them in. They

1117
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:05,000
weren't in. So,
>> y

1118
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:14,960
» Okay. Thank you.
>> Uh nothing under personnel

1119
01:18:12,719 --> 01:18:17,520
attorney. Do we want to just hold on to
that one for a second? Just do

1120
01:18:16,159 --> 01:18:20,080
correspondence. All right, we'll finish.
We could finish our regular schedule and

1121
01:18:19,199 --> 01:18:24,640
then go into that.
>> You want to do the round table and then

1122
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:29,120
» Yeah, let's talk about the round table.
Um, so everyone got an email from a

1123
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:32,560
couple of folks in town here about this
farmers market. At least I think

1124
01:18:31,199 --> 01:18:37,440
everybody got there. Did everybody take
a look at that? Um, so they asked uh in

1125
01:18:35,199 --> 01:18:40,800
that email to to talk about it and I had
correspond with and I think I CCD you on

1126
01:18:39,440 --> 01:18:43,600
that um
>> told the lady that you know we could

1127
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:46,719
talk about it and we put on an agenda if
they wanted to come and talk more to us

1128
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:50,320
about it. But I guess I'm just trying to
get your feedback, you know, initially

1129
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:54,000
what your thoughts are. I mean, I think
the idea of a farmers market sounds

1130
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:57,840
great. I don't know that the city owning
it or operating is feasible really. You

1131
01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:01,920
know, she kind of alludes to that in the
email, but um we certainly just like any

1132
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:05,600
other event in town. You know, we
provide barricades or we help with

1133
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:09,280
parking, that kind of thing. I think
that uh we certainly would do what we

1134
01:19:07,199 --> 01:19:12,000
felt was legal to support it if people
wanted to give it a try because I mean,

1135
01:19:10,480 --> 01:19:15,040
I think that it would be it would be
really nice to see something like that.

1136
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:18,560
I these folks are willing to put their
effort into it. So I don't have any

1137
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:22,640
objections to it initially. I need more
details obviously. Um and to let them

1138
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:26,000
know that like just legally speaking us
owning and operating it seems unlikely.

1139
01:19:24,159 --> 01:19:28,719
You know it's it's not dissimilar to
like the the festival in the park where

1140
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:32,480
we have a private group that runs that
which by the way want to thank all those

1141
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:35,440
volunteers. Um a lot of compliments.
Obviously the weather always contributes

1142
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:38,800
when it's really nice out. It helps but
they did a great job this year and I

1143
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:41,840
think it went really smoothly. similar
in the way where I could see where if

1144
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:44,640
they want to do a farmers market, maybe
even at Veterans Park or something like

1145
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:48,000
that could make it into a little bit
bigger event. Um, obviously there's

1146
01:19:46,480 --> 01:19:51,520
different towns where it works better in
some places it doesn't work as well, but

1147
01:19:50,239 --> 01:19:54,800
um, you know, I I didn't have any
objections to their actual proposal.

1148
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:57,760
Just want to know more about it.
Anything you've got there, Sheldon?

1149
01:19:56,320 --> 01:20:00,080
» No. No.
>> Be nice to see something like that come

1150
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:03,280
to town.
>> Okay. So, if they want to come present

1151
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:06,560
some information to
>> Yeah. So, I I think I invited her to

1152
01:20:04,719 --> 01:20:10,320
come. I'll let her know maybe September,
either the 9th or 23rd would work. I

1153
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:13,040
mean, it's probably not real feasible to
do a lot the rest of this year. I mean,

1154
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:16,320
kind of at the tail end of the produce
season anyways, but um try and get

1155
01:20:15,199 --> 01:20:19,040
something maybe they can get something
ready for next year then.

1156
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:21,840
» Okay. Well, that's what I'll do. I'll
see what our calendar schedule looks

1157
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:25,120
like and if we have some available time,
then we could slot them in.

1158
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:29,120
» And that's all I have really for that.
It's just wanted to see where you guys

1159
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:35,520
were at with that. So,
>> round table. Can I ask about the

1160
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:39,120
Reagan? Is it Reagan? Rean
>> Rean edition. Yep.

1161
01:20:36,480 --> 01:20:42,320
» Yep. Are they They've got the path in.
Are they almost finished with their

1162
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:45,040
phase one?
>> Yeah. Yeah.

1163
01:20:43,199 --> 01:20:50,080
» Okay. I know we had made some
contingencies on phase two. We had a lot

1164
01:20:47,679 --> 01:20:54,000
of concerns from citizens about phase
two and when that gets started with

1165
01:20:51,679 --> 01:20:57,360
their connections to 57 or 16th, where
are we at with are they contacted you at

1166
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:59,040
all about phase two?
>> Answer.

1167
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:01,760
» Well, yeah, go ahead.
>> Yeah, I would say they've not only

1168
01:21:00,719 --> 01:21:04,000
talked us about phase two, they've
talked to us about phase three

1169
01:21:02,719 --> 01:21:07,600
potentially going to the east. they
they're well aware of that that

1170
01:21:05,199 --> 01:21:12,560
requirement of phase 2 is needs to be
punched out to 57 um as part of the

1171
01:21:10,719 --> 01:21:16,000
approval of phase 2. So they acquired
that property so they're aware of it. So

1172
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:19,280
» does the road have to be put in while
they're doing phase 2 before after

1173
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:22,159
that's my
>> the discussion we had. I maybe

1174
01:21:20,719 --> 01:21:26,080
» yeah we need to figure that out.
>> Have to probably go back and look at

1175
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:29,600
that because to your point you have what
is what's phase two? Is it the start of

1176
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:32,560
utility construction phase two or is it
the start of home building construction

1177
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:35,679
in phase two or is it opening of phase
two? I don't know if that's been

1178
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:38,960
addressed or was addressed in the
council approval.

1179
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:41,600
» We can we can rehash that.
>> Review the meeting minutes for that.

1180
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:45,520
» Yeah, I think that might be important.
So, I've had some people reach out and

1181
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:48,320
ask they're concerned about I certainly
think before

1182
01:21:46,719 --> 01:21:52,000
» I would certainly say before there are
people living and occupying those um if

1183
01:21:50,719 --> 01:21:54,960
they're building new town homes or
whatever. I think before the traffic

1184
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:57,199
increase would come, we would definitely
want to have that road punched through

1185
01:21:56,159 --> 01:22:00,560
if possible. Yeah.
>> Um that would make sense to me. That was

1186
01:21:58,719 --> 01:22:04,320
a big concern from from citizens was
traffic and flow and

1187
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:07,679
» yes we can talk about that tomorrow our
staff meeting.

1188
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:13,840
» Sounds good. Okay.
>> All right. That's it then. Uh I'll thank

1189
01:22:12,159 --> 01:22:18,159
everybody for coming. We will be doing a
close session. You're more than welcome

1190
01:22:15,440 --> 01:22:23,040
to stay in another room while we're
having our close session discussion and

1191
01:22:20,639 --> 01:22:28,080
come back. If not, thank you for coming
tonight.

1192
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:31,080
Tim, you know,
hang.

1193
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:38,800
» Yeah, we can be sure to come to the