GOOD MORNING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO TODAY'S MEETING, UH, TODAY OF SEPTEMBER THE 22ND. UH, THIS IS A REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOSTON COUNTY. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COURT, UH, AT SOME TIME, UH, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, UH, THERE'S SOME SIGN IN SHEETS, UH, THERE AT THE, UH, TABLE. AND, UH, WE ALSO, IF YOU HAVE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT YOU WISH TO ADDRESS AT THAT TIME, WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE, UH, TIME TO DO THIS. SO, UH, WE WILL BEGIN THIS MORNING WITH OUR INVOCATION, AND, UH, I'VE ASKED, UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE TO DO THAT, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, BOTH FLAGS, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE REMARKS FROM VISITORS. SO IF YOU'LL PLEASE STAND WITH Y'ALL, PRAY WITH ME. I KNOW. GRACIOUS, HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ALWAYS COME TO YOU. THANK YOU FOR OUR MANY BLESSING. WE JUST ASKED TODAY TO BLESS WE CITIZENS, WE YOU TO GIVE US WISDOM TO DO THE RIGHT THINGS FOR OUR CITIZENS OF KAMAN COUNTY. WE ALSO ASK YOU TO BLESS YOUR EMPLOYEES. WE ASK YOU TO BLESS THE SOLDIERS THAT ARE IN HARM'S
WAY, AND THAT YOU SEND THEM BACK TO US IN YOUR TIME. WE ALSO ASK YOU TO SEND US THE MUCH NEEDED RAIN FOR HERE. AMEN TO DO FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TWO, THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL ON HONOR THE FLAG, I ALLEGIANCE TO BE THE ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVIDUAL. AMEN. OKAY. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT, UH, ARE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COURT. I BELIEVE MOST OF THEM HAVE, UH, TO DO WITH ITEMS NUMBER 12 AND 13 ON THE, UH, SCHOOL ZONE, THE SCHOOL BUS CAMERA. AND WE CAN WAIT UNTIL THAT TIME, OR IF YOU WOULD, UH, LIKE TO COME UP NOW, WE CAN ENTERTAIN, UH, UH, OR HEAR YOUR, HEAR YOUR COMMENTS. NOW. IT'S JUST WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE TO DO. LET'S START WITH ITEM 12 FIRST. IF, IF THE COURT WAS SO OBLIG, UH, WE HAVE, UM, WE MAY DO THAT HERE IN A MOMENT, BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO TO GO AHEAD AND GET THE OPENING, UH, PART OF OUR, WE HAVE SOME, UH, UH, RESOLUTION WE NEED TO READ HERE JUST IN A MOMENT. AND LET ME DO THAT AND PERHAPS WE CAN, UH, CHANGE SOME ITEMS AROUND HERE ON THE, UH, AGENDA. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO DO THAT. OKAY. UH, FIRST ITEM ON THE, UH, AGENDA OF ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE, I HAVE NOTHING TO UH, PRESENT WITH THAT. WE DO HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, AND IT DOES, UH, TALK ABOUT THE ACCEPTANCE ITEM OF MAY IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE MINUTES FOR THE AUGUST 25TH, 2014, SEPTEMBER THE FIFTH, 2014, SEPTEMBER THE EIGHTH, AND SEPTEMBER THE 15TH, 2014, UH, MINUTES OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT. WE ALSO HAVE, ITEM ME IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING VEGETATION OF THERE F SMITH LEE OR, UH, KENNETH BAKER FOR THE KAUFMAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. UH, WE HAVE ADAM C TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING AN AGREEMENT WITH THE, UH, PROJECT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF OAK RIDGE, UH, TO INSTALL NO TRUCK SIGNS IN KAMAN COUNTY PRECINCT ONE, UH, ITEM D IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A ATION OF MATT JONES FOR THE KAUFMAN COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE. AND ITEM E IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PROCLAIMING THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 5TH THROUGH OCTOBER THE 11TH. THIS NATIONAL FOUR EIGHT WEEK IN, UH, CA COUNTY. UH, GENTLEMEN, WHAT'S YOUR ON? COMMISSIONER SHANE MAY SET MOTION. COMMISSIONER, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? DO WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES THIS MORNING FROM THE, UH, COUNTY, UH, FOUR H GROUP? I THINK WE SUPPOSED TO HAVE SOME YOUNG LADIES HERE, AND SO YOU FOR COME DOWN. GOOD, HOW ARE YOU? ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A PROCLAMATION, UH, DECLARING, UH, OCTOBER 5TH THROUGH THE 11TH AS NATIONAL FOUR H CLUB WEEK. AND I'LL READ THIS TO YOU. WHEREAS THE KAMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS PROUD TO HONOR THE FOUR H, UH, YOUTH DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM OF THE TEXAS A AND M AGRILIFE EXTENSION SERVICE FOR 107 YEARS OF PROVIDING EXPERIENCE BASED EDUCATION TO YOUNGSTERS THROUGHOUT THE LONE STAR STATE. AND WHEREAS THIS ADMIRABLE PROGRAM, WHICH SEEKS TO, UH, PROVIDE A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR THE WHOLE CHILD, INCLUDING HEAD, HEART, HANDS, AND HEALTH, HELPS YOUNG TEXANS TO ACQUIRE KNOWLEDGE, DEVELOPS LIFE SKILLS AND FORM ATTITUDES TO ENABLE THEM TO BECOME SELF-DIRECTED, PRODUCTIVE, AND CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY. AND
WHEREAS IT IS MORE, IT IS MORE THAN 535,000 URBAN, SUBURBAN AND RURAL YOUTH PARTICIPATES RANGING IN, UH, PARTICIPANTS RANGING IN AGE, FROM AGE TO 19, HEALTH, DIVERSE ETHNIC AND SOCIOECONOMIC VAST BACKGROUNDS, AND TRULY REPRESENT ACROSS SECTION OF THIS STATE. WHEREAS THIS, UH, PROGRAM UNDOUBTED COULD NOT HAVE ACHIEVED THE SUCCESS THAT IT HAS TODAY. WERE NOT FOR THE SERVICES OF MORE THAN 32,000 VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE GIVEN GENEROUSLY OF THEIR TIME, TALENTS, ENERGIES, AND RESOURCES FOR THE YOUTH OF TEXAS. AND WHEREAS THROUGHOUT ITS, UH, PROUD HISTORY, THE FOUR H PROGRAM HAS DEVELOPED POSITIVE ROLE MODELS FOR COUNTLESS TEXAN AND, UH, THROUGH ITS INNOVATIVE AND INSPIRING PROGRAMS, CONTINUES TO BUILD CHARACTER AND TO INSTILL THE VALUES THAT HAVE MADE OUR STATE STRONG AND GREAT. NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE COLORADO COUNTY COMMISSIONER COURT HEREBY DESIGNATES OCTOBER THE FIFTH THROUGH THE 11TH 2014 AS NATIONAL FOUR EIGHT YOUTH TEXAS AND COMMEND THE FOUR EIGHT YOUTH DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM OF THE TEXAS A AND M AGRILIFE EXTENSION SERVICE, AND THE MANY MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE MADE THE PROGRAM A SUCCESS. AND THIS IS SIGNED BY ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AND MYSELF. LADIES, CONGRATULATIONS. WE APPRECIATE YOUR, YOU'D LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING. OKAY. , ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? UH, THEY DO A GREAT JOB THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTY AND WE HAVE SOME, UH, WORKERS WITH THE EXTENSION SERVICE THAT READY DO PROVIDE GREAT LEADERSHIP. WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR PARTICIPATION. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE WITH US THIS MORNING. WE'D LIKE TO INVITE YOU TO OKAY, GOOD. WELL, WE ARE, WE'RE GOOD FOR BREAKFAST. SO LET'S, LET'S DO A, THE AGENDA IS A HEARING THAT WE CLOSE THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING AS WE CAN. AND, UH, THIS IS ITEM THREE AND TO CONSIDER THE COUNTY CLERK'S, UH, RECORDS ARCHIVE PLAN AS PRESENTED BY THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE ONE 18.025. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ENTER INTO A PUBLIC HEARING? UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION. MR. . ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. OKAY. WE'LL BEGIN THE HEARING AND, UH, LET JUST USE, PRESENT THE INFORMATION FOR US. AND I KNOW EVERYBODY'S HERE FOR THE RECORDS ARCHIVE FUNDING PLAN. UM, BASICALLY THE RECORDS ARCHIVE FUNDING PLAN IS, UM, IT'S A FEE PAID WHEN THE PERSON SUBMITS A DOCUMENT TO THE COUNTY CLERK FOR FILING A RECORDING AND THE FEES ARE PLACED INTO A SPECIAL ACCOUNT AND THEY CAN ONLY BE USED FOR THE COUNTY CLERK FOR THE PRESERVATION AND RESTORATION OF THE COUNTY RECORDS. UH, THE CODE SAYS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE, BEFORE COLLECTING THE SPEED, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FUNDING OF IT, AND THEN THE ANNUAL PLAN IS PRESENTED FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY ONE THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE, UH, UH, COUNTY, UH, CLERK'S RECORDS ARCHIVE PLAN AS PRESENTED BY MRS. HUGHES? ANYONE TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY COMMENTS CONCERNING THIS PLAN? NOT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONER ROSA MAKES THAT MOTION. COMMISSIONER MANNING SECONDS. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE COUNTY CLERK'S ANNUAL RECORDS ARCHIVE PLAN AS DISCUSSED IN THE PUBLIC. SO, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MRS. HUGHES? WAS THIS YES, SIR, IT WAS ACTUALLY. OKAY. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT THE, UH, COUNTY CLERK'S, UH, RECORDS OF ARCHIVES PLAN. MAY COMMISSIONER SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION. COMMISSIONER MAN SECONDS. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, WE ALSO, KAREN COOPER WILL PRESENT THE, UH, AUDIT FOR REPORT FOR THE, UH, MONTH OF, UH, AUGUST. MS. COOPER? YES, SIR. UH, ON YOUR GENERAL FUND, YOUR, THIS IS FOR AUGUST 31ST, 2014. YOUR 11 MONTHS BENCHMARK IS AT 91.7%. THE GENERAL FUND REVENUES ARE AT 94.95%, WHICH IS ABOVE THAT BENCHMARK, BUT THE FEES ARE STILL LOW. THAT SHOULD BE COMING IN. I JUST WANT YOU TO MAKE AWARE OF THE LAND THAT IS KEEPING THAT PERCENTAGE UP THAT WE DID NOT BUDGET FOR. YOUR EXPENDITURES FOR THE GENERAL FUND ARE AT 84.9%, WHICH IS BELOW EVERYBODY'S KIND OF STAYING BELOW THEIR BUDGET, WHICH IS A GOOD THING. HOPEFULLY WE WE'LL CLOSE GOOD OR THIS END OF THIS MONTH AND ADD TO OUR FUND BALANCE, UM, YOUR MAIN ROAD AND BRIDGE REVENUES AND TRANSFERS. YOUR REVENUES ARE AT 98% AND THE TRANSFERS TO YOUR ROAD AND BRIDGE ARE AT 96%. UH, ALL FOUR, UH, ROAD AND BRIDGE INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNTS ADDED TO ABOUT 81% IN REVENUES AND 67.8 IN EXPENDITURES. YOU HAVE COLLECTED A HUNDRED MORE THAN A HUNDRED PERCENT ON YOUR ROAD BOND AND YOU HAVE, UH, DELEGATED ABOUT 9% YOU SPENT ON THAT SO FAR ON THOSE DIFFERENT PROJECTS. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE AUDITOR ON THE, UH, MONTHLY REPORT FOR, UH, AUGUST? NOT, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT AS PRESENTED. SO MAY, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? UH, ALSO THE MONTHLY TREASURER REPORT FROM, UH, MR. COUNTRYMAN. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT. ARE WE GOING TO NEED TO DO, UH, HAVE, UH, SHORT TERM? UH, OKAY. SO WE SHOULD BE OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE, UH, TREASURER NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE TREASURER FOR COURT AS PRESENTED. HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. ZA. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. MAN. MOTION? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. THANK YOU. UH, JOHN, UH, ITEM NUMBER, UH, NINE, UH, SEVEN IS TO IFF TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPRO EARLY VOTING DATES, TIMES, AND PLACES FOR THE NOVEMBER GENERAL ELECTION, WHICH IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER, I BELIEVE. ABSOLUTELY. EARLY VOTING STARTS OCTOBER 20TH. AND THE EARLY VOTING SITES ARE THE SAME AS THEY NORMALLY ARE, WHICH IS THE ANNEX AND THE THREE SUB COURTHOUSES. UH, YOU'LL NOTE THAT, UH, THE ANNEX IS OPEN 12 HOURS A DAY DURING EARLY VOTING. UH, THE MAIN POLLING SITE, ONCE YOU GO OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND IN THE COUNTY, THE MAIN POLLING SITE IS REQUIRED TO GO OVER 12 HOURS A DAY. THE, UH, ALTERNATIVE, THE OTHER SITES ARE NOT REQUIRED. WHAT WE'VE DONE IS OPEN THEM SEVERAL DAYS A WEEK, 12 HOURS A DAY ANYWAY, JUST FOR THE HELP THOSE IN THE OTHER AREAS. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE TO APPROVE THE, UH, EARLY VOTING DATES TIMES TO PLACE THIS FOR THE NOVEMBER ELECTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER ROSA, SECOND MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED TANYA, WHILE YOU'RE UP, ITEM NUMBER A IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER WHETHER TO VOTE ELECTRONIC OR PAPER FOR THE NOVEMBER ELECTION, INCLUDING EARLY VOTING AND ELECTION. THAT'S CORRECT. I DID GIVE YOU EACH SOME GENERAL OPTIONS AND AN IDEA OF COSTS. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE GO THE SAME DIRECTION WE WENT IN THE PRIMARY, WHICH IS ELECTRONIC VOTING FOR EARLY VOTING AND PAPER FOR VOTING TODAY.
YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THEIR COST CIRCUM THERE GOING WAYS IF YOU VOTING DIRECTION. OKAY. I AGREE WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION. THAT GIVES PEOPLE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE. THEY CHOOSE FORM OF A MOTION. COMMISSIONER? YES, WE HAD A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A ITEM NUMBER NINE IS TO HEAR FOR PAM PORTER TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A RESOLUTION, UH, 20 DEFENSE COUNTY. THIS IS THE STATE GRANT THAT IS GIVEN TO ALL COUNTY. UH, LAST YEAR OR FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR, UH, WE RECEIVED A FORM OF GRANT, UH, IN THE, UH, TOTAL AMOUNT OF $162,000. PART OF THAT 65,000 WAS FOR, UH, A SPECIAL ONE TIME PAYMENT PORTION THAT THE LEGISLATURE APPROVED THIS LAST YEAR. AND THEN OUR REGULAR, UH, FUNDING YEAR GRANT WAS FROM 30, I'M SORRY, 96,000. UH, THIS IS THE GRANT THAT GOES, UH, TOWARDS, UH, HELPING PAY THE DEFENSE COST. IT DOESN'T GO VERY FAR, BUT IT CERTAINLY HELPS US IN THAT REGARD. AND I BELIEVE THE PROJECTED ALLOCATION WE RECEIVED THIS YEAR, UH, IS ESTIMATED TO BE AT 89,123. UH, TO DO THAT, WE MUST HAVE THIS RESOLUTION BEFORE THEY SEND US OUR FUNDING. SO, UH, THAT I'M MISSING. YOU GOT IT ALL. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OR ON THE, UH, BASELINE COUNTY BASELINE 79, THAT WAS IN, I BELIEVE 2001. SO WHEN, WHEN THE PROGRAM STARTED MOST, WE RECEIVED THE MOST ANY OF ADDONS. DOES THIS GO TOWARDS OUR PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE OR DOES IT GO TO COURT? PART OF THAT, WE HAVE TWO GRANTS. THERE'S FORMULA GRANT. ONE GOES STRICTLY TO FUND THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE. YES, SIR. UH, FOR, UH, MENTAL HEALTH CASE MANAGER AND ATTORNEY AND THEIR BENEFITS. BUT THIS COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEY RIGHT. ONLY GOES CCPS. NO, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE REALLY, UH, NEED TO WORK ON. OUR C PS GRANT. UH, WE DON'T GET A GRANT FOR CCPS, BUT BUDGETED ABOUT HUNDRED 60,000 IF I WOULD RECALL. AND WE'RE, WE'RE WAY OVER THAT. UH, WE'RE AT HUNDRED SOMETHING THOUSAND. YEAH, WE'RE NEARLY HUNDRED THOUSAND CPS CASES. WE, THERE IS SOME DISCUSSION MAY CONTRIBUTING TOWARDS THAT. UH, BUT THAT WILL HAVE TO BE, UH, HAVE TO COME OUT NEXT. APPROVE RESOLUTION. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK TO ACCEPT, UH, THE RESOLUTION, APPROVED RESOLUTION AND APPLY FOR THE 2015 INGEN DEFENSE FORMULA GRANT PROGRAM. SECOND FROM MAN. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. NUMBER 10 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING AN ORDER REGARDING KA COUNTY RULES AND REGULATIONS, UH, GOVERNING SOLICITATION PERMIT PROCESS. UH, AND I BELIEVE, UH, THIS IS A, UH, SOMETHING THAT IS NEW TO OUR COUNTY. IT'S NOT DUE TO SOME OF THE CITIES IN THE COUNTY, UH, BUT IT IS AN AREA, UH, THAT WE NEED, UH, PROBABLY TO, UH, TO LOOK AT BECAUSE WE'RE BEGINNING TO HAVE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE SOLICIT ON CORNERS OUT IN THE COUNTY. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER THOSE ARE LEGITIMATE, UH, SOLICITATIONS OR JUST, UH, MAYBE A SCAM. HOPEFULLY THEY'RE NOT A SCAM, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW. JOHN, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THIS? UM, I, I'D ASK REBECCA BERG IF SHE'S HERE. SHE DID. I JUST SHARED THE, UM, WELL, SHARON FIRST CAME TO OUR OFFICE AND ASKED HIM TO DO A BRIEFING MEMO TO YOU GUYS, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAD ATTACHED THERE AT THE TIME. UM, HIS TWO MAIN CONCERNS WERE WHAT DOUG WAS SPEAKING ABOUT AS FAR AS THE LEGITIMACY OF THE SOLICITATION AND MAKING SURE THAT IT WASN'T A SCAM. AND THEN HIS ALSO SENT CONCERN WAS THEY HAD BEEN RECEIVING REPORTS OF PEOPLE,
UM, ON STREET CORNER OR MAYBE GOING THROUGHOUT THE ROAD AND, YOU KNOW, IN BETWEEN THE LANES SO THAT MAYBE THE SAFETY OF THE PERSON WHO'S ACTUALLY DOING THIS SOLICITATION, AND THEN ALSO THE VEHICLES WHO WERE DRIVING THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION. SO THOSE WERE HIS MAIN CONCERNS. AND THEN, UM, HE SPOKE TO SMITH COUNTY AND THEY RECENTLY IMPLEMENTED A PERMIT PROCESS AND REGULATIONS THAT SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE. AND, UM, WE DRAFTED A VERY SIMILAR REGULATION, UH, TO DEAL WITH ISSUE. AND THAT'S THE SECOND PAGE. YOU'LL GET THE REGULATIONS FIRST, AND THEN ON THE LAST PAGE YOU'LL GET THE ACTUAL PERMIT. AND, UM, SHERIFF'S, UH, MAIN IDEA WAS TO IMPLEMENT ENFORCEMENT THROUGH THE DIFFERENT PRECINCT CONSTABLE'S OFFICES. SO THE PERMIT WOULD BE FILLED OUT BY THE GROUP THAT WANTED TO ASSOCIATE, UM, FOR DONATION, AND THEN THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE WOULD APPROVE THAT AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE THAT PERMIT AND THAT TIME SLOT AVAILABLE TO, UM, WHEREVER THE GROUP IS. I THINK THAT'S BASICALLY IT. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT? I JUST, UH, I'M A LITTLE CURIOUS AS TO WHAT A $1 MILLION LIABILITY INSURANCE POLICY COST. WHICH PAGE IS THAT ON? THAT'S ON, UH, PAGE TWO. IS IT INSIDE THE REGULATIONS NUMBER SIX? I BEG YOUR PARDON. IS THAT INSIDE THE REGULATIONS? YES, MA'AM. SAYS SOLICITOR SHALL PROVIDE A 1 MILLION LIABILITY INSURANCE POLICY COVER DAMAGES THAT MAY ARISE. SOLICITATION AND COMMISSIONER ALLEN DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, BUT, UM, I CAN, WELL, I JUST, I'M JUST CURIOUS. I'M, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO A SOLICITATION, BUT I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO BE GETTING HURT TO BE KNOCKING ON WINDOWS AND ALL THAT STUFF, UH, STOPPING CARS BY STEPPING IN FRONT OF THEM, WHAT HAVE YOU. BUT, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FILLED, FILLED THE BOOT CAMPAIGN THAT, UH, I THINK IS VERY BENEFICIAL TO THEM. AND I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE, WHAT THE PREMIUM ON THAT LIABILITY POLICY CAUSED THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT GO TO COLLECTING MONEY, YOU KNOW, AND THEY SPEND MORE THAN THEY COLLECT ON AN INSURANCE POLICY. I JUST A LITTLE CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY A GREAT QUESTION. AND I'VE CIRCLED THAT IT'S NUMBER SIX, CORRECT. THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT? YES, MA'AM. AND I'LL LOOK INTO THAT ISSUE AND THEN, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN RESOLVE THAT SO THAT WE'RE NOT PROHIBITING ANYONE THAT DEFINITELY HAS A LEGITIMATE, UH, SOLICITATION OR CAMPAIGN THAT THEY'RE PART OF. A FEE HAS NOT YET BEEN SET PERMIT. NO, IT HAS NOT, NOT AT THIS TIME THAT REQUIRE, UH, SO WHICH SECTION ARE YOU REFERRING? WELL, SAME NUMBER FOUR ITEM. OKAY. ON THE LAST PAGE FOR THE PERMIT, UM, I'M TRYING TO SEE IF THERE'S A CORRELATION AND IT SAYS B IN THAT SECTION AS WELL. UM, IN MY DISCUSSION WITH THE SHERIFF, HE DIDN'T MENTION THAT THERE WOULD BE A FEE. SO IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WASN'T, BUT, UM, MAYBE IF IT BECAME AN ISSUE OR SOME FOR SOME REASON YOU GUYS WANTED TO PASS A FEE IN THE FUTURE, THEN THAT WOULD GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE DONE TO MAKE THE 1 MILLION LIABILITY INSURANCE POLICY, UH, HAVE, UH, STIPULATIONS. THERE WERE MAYBE SOME CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT. WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT BE ALL IN THE WELL, CERTAINLY, UH, WE COULD HAVE THAT. UM, I, I I THINK WHAT IT IS IS JUST SOMETHING FINANCIAL SOLVENCY. SO YOU DON'T HAVE AD HOC GROUPS SHOWING UP SAYING, OH, WE WANT TO SOLICIT ESSENTIALLY, MANY ENTITIES ALREADY HAVE LIABILITY POLICIES IN PLACE. SO COULD I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? COULD THAT BE LIKE, MAY BE REQUIRED OR THAT NOT? WE COULD FOR PROFIT ENTITIES. SO WILL EACH OF THESE PERMITS BE, UH, CONSIDERED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OR, OR THE UH, UH, PRECINCT CONSTABLES IT? YEAH, BE THE PRECINCT CONSTABLE, BUT I THINK COMMISSIONER'S COURT OUGHT HAVE OVERSIGHT ON THESE, UH, SO THAT IF IT GIVES SOMEBODY LIKE, OR, OR THE CLUB OR LIONS CLUB THAT, THAT WE CAN WAIVE THEIR FEES. MOST OF THE LEGITIMATE ORGANIZATIONS DO HAVE THE LIABILITY INSURANCE. WHAT, WHAT THIS POLICY IS TRYING TO IS THOSE WHO DON'T, WHO ARE THE JUST FLY BY NIGHT SHOW UP IN TON COUNTY AND START TRYING TO
MAKE MONEY, UH, SPEAK THOSE OF CHURCHES, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE OUT DALLAS OR WHATEVER. WE HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING THAT WHEN WE PULL UP THERE AND GET A CALL SAYING ROAD WINDSHIELD MONEY, WE DON'T HAVE NO WAY OF OUT. RIGHT. THEN IF THAT'S THE CASE WE PERMIT, WE CAN GO THERE AND SAY, DO YOU HAVE A PERMIT? THEY SAY, NO. OKAY, YOU NEED TO LEAVE. HERE'S THE PROCESS. YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND GET THE PERMIT. RIGHT. I DUNNO ABOUT THE FEE. IF, IF YOU WANT TO PUT A FEE ON IT, THE THING ABOUT IT'S THAT WE NEED SOMETHING WE CAN GO TO MAKE AND SAY, HERE'S THE DEAL, IF YOU HAVE A PERMIT, YES. OKAY. YOU NEED TO GO BY THE REGULATIONS BECAUSE YOU, YOU'RE GIVEN THE REGULATIONS AND THE RULES. WE GET THE PERMIT ON WHAT, HOW YOU DO THIS. IF THEY DON'T HAVE THAT, THEN WE CAN SEND THEM TO THE PROPER CONSTABLE TO GET THAT PERMIT. NO, WE HAD A ROOF THAT SHOWED UP AT 25 78 AND 9 8, 7 WEEKS AGO AND HAVE NO IDEA WHO THEY WERE. UH, I BELIEVE THEY WERE SOLICITING FOR A CHURCH OUTTA DALLAS. YEAH. AND OUTTA DALLAS. AND UH, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY HAVE BEEN LEGITIMATE, MAY NOT HAVE BEEN, BUT, UH, VERY AGGRESSIVE. VERY AGGRESSIVE. I THINK THIS IS A WAY TO TRY TO, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME REGULATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE LEGITIMATE. SO WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE, GENTLEMEN? I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING ADDED IN HERE. UH, UNDER NUMBER 10, IT SAID THERE SHOULD BE NO MORE THAN TWO SOLICITORS PER TRAFFIC LANE. UH, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IN THERE THAT, UH, UH, THERE'D BE THAT THE SOLICITORS NEED TO BE LIKE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE ROAD, BE, YOU KNOW, ON THAT CURB NOT STANDING ON THE WHITE LINE. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU GOT A LANE OF TRAFFIC HERE AND A LANE OF TRAFFIC HERE. THEY DON'T NEED TO BE STANDING ON THAT WHITE LINE, WHICH WAS THE CASE IN MAYBANK THIS WEEKEND. AND THAT IT WAS JUST REALLY SCARY. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD SOME YOUNG KIDS OUT THERE, THEY WERE TAKING THE DONATIONS AND THEY WERE STANDING RIGHT ON THE WHITE LINE AND THE CAR'S GOING, WELL, IT'S A GREEN LIGHT. I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM ON THE SIDE OF, OF THE ROAD IN A TRAFFIC STOP SO THEY CAN SOLICIT THEIR DONATIONS OFF THE CURB INSTEAD OF STANDING ON THE WHITE. OKAY. ARE, UH, WOULD YOU LIKE FOR, UH, THE DA'S OFFICE TO GO BACK AND MAYBE REWORK THIS WITH SOME OF THESE ADDED COMMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE AND, UH, I BELIEVE SO. WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S GONNA BE AN APPLICATION LEAD STATUS SET NOW OR DECIDE WE CHARGE FIRE DEPARTMENT, TRY AND RAISE MONEY, WHATEVER WE NEED TO SET, CHARGE A FEE OR JUST HAVE THEM SIGN UP WITH, JUST FILL OUT THE PERMIT. JOHN, CAN WE PUT SOME KIND OF LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT, UH, WOULD REQUIRE HIM TO NOT FEED, BE AT AN INTERSECTION UNLESS THERE WAS A MEDIAN OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A SAFE SPOT FOR THEM TO STAND AT INSTEAD OF JUST A, A LINE DIVIDING OPPOSING TRAFFIC DIRECTIONS? IN MOST TOWNS, THERE IS SOME SORT OF MEDIAN, WELL SEE AT THE, AT THE RED LIGHT WHERE THEY SOLICITED MAYBANK. NO, THERE'S NO MEANING A THE CITY, THE CITY SHOULD HAVE THEIR OWN REGULATIONS. YEAH. THE ADDRESS, THE ISSUE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT'S DEFINITELY NOT SAFE FOR THROUGH TRAFFIC. STAND ON. IT'S NOT TRYING TO GIVE YOU A DIRTY LOOK. YOU SO, WELL, I MEAN, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, INTERSECTION. IT'S TURNING TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A SAFE SITUATION, RIGHT? IT'S NOT A SAFE AREA. CAN WE, UH, TENTATIVELY APPROVE THE, UM, PERMIT PROCESS AND PUT SOME WARRANT IN THERE THAT ALLOW, WE CAN DO THAT OR WE CAN TAPE IT COME BACK WITH REVISION LATER ON. THAT MIGHT BE THE CLEANEST WAY TO DO IT. UH, I WOULD, I THINK YOU'VE WRITTEN DOWN WHAT THE CONCERNS WERE AND IF GENTLEMEN, IF YOU HAVE OTHER, UH, COMMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE NEXT MEETING. ALRIGHT, I HAVE MOTION COMMISSIONER, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM NUMBER 10 AND WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER. ALL IN FAVOR TO SAY AYE. AND ONE OTHER ITEM, UH, NUMBER 11
TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REVIEWING STATEWIDE AUTOMATED VICTIM NOTIFICATION SERVICE, UH, A MAINTENANCE GRANT CONTRACT BETWEEN THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL AND, UH, TALKING TO HIM. UH, THIS IS THE, UH, CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE, UH, OPERATED WITH OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WITH THE OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. UH, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY THROUGH THAT. I'LL, ANY MOTION OR ANY COMMENTS THAT ANYBODY HAS, UH, ABOUT THAT THIS IS A STANDARD CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE, UH, EACH YEAR, UH, TO, UH, ASSIST THE PEOPLE THAT ARE VICTIMS OF, UH, CRIME, THE CONTRACT. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK THAT WE REVIEW THIS CONTRACT. ONE QUICK QUESTION. DO OKAY, DOES THIS GO, IS THIS ALLOCATED THROUGH THE JAIL? I DON'T THINK IT GOES FOR PAGE 14. JAIL COST COURT. YEAH. IT HAS NO COURT COST. IT HAS COST FOR JAIL. 14. DOES THAT GO TO, UM, HOW, HOW IS THAT ADMINISTERED AMOUNT GOES TO THE GENERAL FUNDS? IT'S PAID THROUGH WHAT, WHAT, UH, A FREE IS THE COMPANY THAT WE CONTRACT WITH. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TURNED AROUND AND PAYS THEM. WE DON'T ACTUALLY GET THE MONEY ANYMORE. SO WE NEVER SEEN THE MONEY. NO, THE A PAY FOR THE SERVICE FOR US UNDER THE, WE STILL HAVE AND WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK AND SECOND COMMISSIONER FURTHER QUESTION. KIM, DID THAT ANSWER YOUR WELL, I WAS KIND OF WONDERING IF IT WENT THROUGH OUR BUDGET. IF IT GOES, IT DOES GO THROUGH A IT DOES. I IT CAME STRAIGHT. THE A PAY THE FREE DIRECTLY, BUT IT HAS TO BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF OUR BUDGET. RIGHT? IT'S AN IN AND OUT. IT COMES IN REVENUE AND GOES OUT AS AN ONCE WE GET IT. OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS TWO CONTRACTS. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY CHANGES. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER, SECOND. COMMISSIONER MANNING. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A. THOSE OPPOSED. ALRIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 12 IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON THE REGULATION OF CAL COUNTY TEXAS HOLDING A MOTOR VEHICLE OWNER LIABLE FOR THE OWNER'S MOTOR VEHICLE OPERATING IN A SCHOOL ZONE IN EXCESS OF POSTED SPEED LIMITS AND IMPOSING A CIVIL PENALTY FOR VIOLATION OF THIS REGULATION. I POINT OUT THAT THERE ARE TWO REGULATIONS. ONE OF THEM IS FOR A SCHOOL ZONE VIOLATION, WHICH WOULD BE IN A SCHOOL ZONE AREA. AND THE OTHER ONE IS FOR CAMERAS TO GO ON SCHOOL BUSES. AND THAT IS WHAT ITEM NUMBER 13 IS. UH, TO BEGIN THE DISCUSSION, WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER 12 AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE, UH, SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE SIGNED UP, UH, TO DISCUSS THE SCHOOL BUS CAMERA. UH, BUT WE ALSO HAVE, UH, GENTLEMAN DAVID ISABEL, UH, FROM KAUFMAN THAT IS HERE TO DISCUSS ITEM NUMBER 12. AND THEN IF, HOLD OFF ON DISCUSSING ITEM NUMBER 13. UH, WE WOULD, UH, APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT. SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO FIRST IS, UH, HAVE THE, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, UH, AND MR. ISABEL IF YOU COME FORWARD. JUDGE, DO YOU WANNA PRONOU PARDON THE TIME LIMIT? YEAH, WE DO HAVE A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. UH, AND I'LL ASK MS. USEDHE TO BE OUR OFFICIAL TIMEKEEPER ON THAT. SURE. ALRIGHT. ACTUALLY, MY COMMENTS APPLY TO BOTH 1213 EQUALLY. OKAY. SO, UM, WHEN YOU TOOK THIS OFFICE, YOU SWORN AN OATH TO SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. BUT YOU COME HERE TODAY WITH ITEMS 12 AND 13 TO VIOLATE THAT OATH. 'CAUSE ARTICLE FIVE OF THE BILL OF RIGHTS, BETTER KNOWN AS THE FIFTH AMENDMENT, STATES THAT NO PERSON SHALL BE DEPRIVED LIFE, LIBERTY, OR PROPERTY WITHOUT DUE PROCESS OF LAW. YOU WILL TAKE OUR DUE PROCESS OF LAW AWAY IF YOU PASS THIS ARTICLE. SIX STATES THAT THE ACCUSED SHALL ENJOY THE RIGHT TO BE CONFRONTED WITH THE WITNESSES AGAINST HIM TO HAVE COMPULSORY PROCESS FOR OBTAINING WITNESSES IN HIS FAVOR, AND TO HAVE THE ASSISTANCE OF COUNSEL FOR DEFENSE. THIS WILL ALSO TAKE THIS AWAY FROM THE CITIZENS OF KAUFFMAN COUNTY. AND WHILE THESE AMENDMENTS
DEAL WITH CRIMINAL CASES, SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU DECLARE THE PENALTY FOR THESE VIOLATIONS TO BE CIVIL DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT THIS VIOLATION IS A CRIMINAL OF A CRIMINAL STATUTE. IF YOU VOTE IN FAVOR OF THESE ITEMS, YOU WILL VIOLATE BOTH OF THESE ARTICLES, AND YOU DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY BY TAKING THIS OFFICE TO VIOLATE THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THE BURDEN OF PROOF LIES WITH THE COUNTY TO PROVE WHO VIOLATED THE CRIMINAL STATUTE, NOT SIMPLY BECAUSE SOMEONE OWNS A PIECE OF PROPERTY REGISTERED IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. NOW, LET'S GET DOWN TO THE REAL ISSUE HERE. THIS IS NOTHING BUT A POINT TO GENERATE REVENUE. YOU HAVE CONTRACTUALLY FOUND THE TAXPAYERS OF THIS COUNTY TO PAY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF MONEY TO A TS UNDER THIS CONTRACT. UNLESS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PEOPLE VIOLATE THESE LAWS TO GENERATE THE REVENUE UNDER THIS, TO PAY THIS CONTRACT WITHOUT THE REVENUE OF THE FINES GENERATED, THE TAXPAYERS ARE ON THE HOOK TO PAY A TS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF MONEY. I THINK THE MONEY THAT IS NOT GENERATED FROM THESE FINES SHOULD COME DIRECTLY OUT OF THE POCKETS OF THE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED THIS AGREEMENT AND AGREED TO THIS. AND THAT IS NOT THE TAXPAYERS OF THIS COUNTY. THIS IS YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON ITEM NUMBER 12 DEALING WITH THE SCHOOL ZONE CAMERAS? RAY, YOU'RE NOT SIGNED UP, BUT LEAVE YOU ON HERE, SO COME, COME FORWARD. THANK YOU, JUDGE. THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT. BY THE WAY, THE GENTLEMAN HERE, UH, JUDGE THE, UH, NAME OF THE COMPANY THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH THE CAMERAS, IS THAT A S THE AMERICAN TRAFFIC SOLUTIONS? YES, THEY HAVE REPRESENTATIVES HERE TODAY. OKAY. AMERICAN IONS. OKAY. NOW LET ME ASK YOU THIS. DID, DID PART OF THE GENERATION OF THIS, UH, PARTICULAR ITEM COME FROM A CHILD BEING KILLED ON A BACK A COUPLE YEARS AGO? DID SOMETHING, DID, DID, DID SOMETHING COME UP ABOUT THAT IN THIS? WELL, WE PUT ON WHICH PROGRAM? ON THE SCHOOL BUS PROGRAM? YES. YES. THERE WAS A CHILD THAT WAS, UH, KILLED GETTING OFF THE SCHOOL BUS ABOUT FOUR MILES. UH, OKAY, LET, LEMME JUST GIVE YOU HIGHWAY THROUGH EDUCATOR. EDUCATOR HERE. LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE DEFINITION HERE. POLITICS, THE SCIENCE OF GOVERNMENT, POLITICAL AFFAIRS, METHODS, OPINIONS AND SCH. NOW THERE'S, THERE'S A, UH, UH, IN REALITY RIGHT NOW, THE CURRENT DEFINITION THAT WE LIKE IS THE ART OF MANIPULATING THE MASSES TO ACHIEVE A GOAL THROUGH A USE OF AN EMOTIONAL ISSUE. OKAY? NOW, BACK IN 19, I'M SORRY, 2005, WE HAVE A DOCUMENT HERE. IT SAYS ALL, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY, AS IT WAS CALLED IN A CS WAS THIS COMPANY THAT WE'RE USING AROUND HERE. THEY HAD MANY PACKS SET UP AND DANGLE THE CARROT OF REVENUE BEFORE CITY COUNCILS AND OTHERS AND CREDIT TO, TO DONATE TO THEIR CAMPAIGNS. THEY ALSO, THIS SAME COMPANY ALSO PAID A PUBLIC RELATIONS FIRM IN WASHINGTON, DC TO LOOK INTO ANY STORIES INVOLVING CHILDREN AS HIT OR HOT BY, HIT BY RED LIGHT RUNNERS TO OVERSIZE THEM OR THEIR MAXIMUM EMOTIONAL ISSUE. THAT WAS IN 2005. SAME COMPANY. NOW, TEXAS RESIDENTS HAVE VOTED TO HOUSE RED LIGHT CAMERAS EVERY TIME THEY'VE APPEARED ON THE BALLOT IN DAYTON HOUSTON, BAYTOWN LEAGUE, CITY COLLEGE STATION, OTHERS MARGINS BY 77%. THE PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENT IN CLEVELAND VARIES ITS LANGUAGE FROM THE HOUSTON PROGRAM. THE CITY OF CLEVELAND SHALL, UH, UH, SHALL NOT USE, UH, PHOTOGRAPHIC TRAFFIC SIGNAL ENFORCEMENT SYSTEM TO CIVILLY, CRIMINALLY, ADMINISTRATIVELY ENFORCE ANY STATE LAWS OR CITY ORDINANCES AGAINST THE OWNER OR RESIDENT. THE VEHICLE OPERATED IN VIOLATION OF A TRAFFIC CONTROLLED SIGNAL. THIS PROPOSED CHARTER A IN STATES, NOR SHALL THEY COLLECT ANY MONEY FROM ANY RESIDENT OR NOTICE OF ANY VIOLATION ISSUED IN ITS WHOLE OR PART IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OF PHOTO PHOTOGRAPHIC SIGNAL ENFORCEMENT SYSTEM 36. THIS IS ROBIN 36. WE NEED, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE ELSE WISH TO, UH, COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 12, 12 AND 13? UH, I'M LINE 12 AND 13TH AT THE SAME TIME. THANK YOU, JUDGE. I'M JOHN COOK AND I'VE, UH, DONE SOME RESEARCH ON THIS AND I'M JUST NOT SURE HOW WE HANDLED THAT HERE LOCALLY, BUT I KNOW HOW MARY HORN HANDLED IT. AND DENTON COUNTY, I BELIEVE THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE THAT THE A PS PEOPLE TALKED TO IN THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM. WHEN THEY LOOKED AT THIS PROGRAM, THEY PUT A FREE PERSON PANEL TOGETHER TO LOOK AT IT. SPENT MONTHS DOING THAT
AND WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH, UH, ACTUALLY THE ANSWER WAS NO. WHEN THEY DECIDED, WHEN IT CAME TO COURT AND DECIDED TO DO THIS, AND THE REASON THEY DECIDED THAT BECAUSE THERE'S LEGISLATIVE PROBLEMS WITH THIS CONTRACT AND THAT SHE FELT LIKE THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE FIRST. SO THEY DID LITTLE EL FIRST CAMERAS ON SCHOOL BUSES. THAT WAS THEIR FIRST DRIVE TO DO THIS, AND THEY'RE INVESTIGATING THAT NOW, BUT THEY HAD A THREE MAN, MAN PANEL THAT WENT THROUGH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAD DONE HERE. I HAVE NO IDEA. I THOUGHT THERE WAS PROBABLY SOME SORT OF INVESTIGATION GOING ON WITH THAT AND THAT PEOPLE WERE LOOKING AT THE LEGISLATIVE ASPECTS OF THIS LIABILITY ASPECTS OF IT'S OTHER THINGS. WE'VE GOT THREE DIFFERENT, UH, GROUPS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS. WE HAVE CITY, THE CITY COUNCIL, WE HAVE THE SCHOOL BOARD, WE HAVE THE COUNTY, ALL THREE OF THOSE. I JUST CAN'T SEE HOW THEY CAN WORK TOGETHER. SOME OF THE CITIES ARE SAYING THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THIS. SO WHEN WE HAVE SUCH ANIMOSITY OUT THERE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE PASSED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE AND THEY'RE JUST MAJOR ISSUES WITH IT. SO I WOULD REALLY RECONSIDER DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE SO EXPENSIVE AND WE DON'T, AND WE HAVE, THERE'S NO STUDY THAT SAYS WE NEED THIS. THERE NEEDS TO BE STUDIES MADE. THERE NEEDS TO BE STUDIES, UH, ABOUT THE LEGISLATION OF IT. THERE JUST NEEDS TO BE STUDIES. AND I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO LOOK AT THIS MORE CLOSELY UNLESS YOU'VE HAD AN INVESTIGATION ALREADY, SOME PANEL OR SOME GROUP THAT CAME TOGETHER TO DO THAT BESIDES THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PUSHING IT. SO I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE A RECONSIDERATION OF ALL THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JUDGE. OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? WE HAVE, UH, YES, SIR. HERE. MY NAME IS JOE AND I YES, SIR. THANK OPPORTUNITY. I'D LIKE TO, JUST FOR A QUICK, HOW MANY PEOPLE IN HERE ARE OPPOSED TO THIS? OKAY, SO WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT, I BRING TOGETHER 20 OR 25 PEOPLE THAT I'VE TALKED TO THAT SAYS, UH, THEY'RE OPPOSED TO IT. SO MY, MY QUESTION WOULD BE WHY NOT PUT IT ON A BALLOT? WHY PUT IT ON ON A PROPOSAL? PUT A PROPOSITION, SAYS, OKAY, IF'S HERE'S WHAT WE CONSIDER DOING, SO LET'S DO IT BECAUSE YOU ARE, YOU ARE ALLEGED BY THE PEOPLE OF COPMAN COUNTY. SO LET'S GIVE THE PEOPLE OF COPMAN COUNTY THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY YES OR NO. THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS COMPANY IS DIDN'T, THEY'RE NOT HERE REALLY TO YET TO MAKE MONEY. AND, AND I, I OPPOSE TO MAKING MONEY OFF THE CITIZEN OF TON COUNTY. ONE OF THE BIGGEST VIOLATORS THAT I FOUND OUT WE'RE TALKING LOT OF PEOPLE IS KIDS THAT ARE LATE FOR SCHOOL ARE ONE OF THE BIGGEST VIOLATORS WE GOING TO. ARE WE GOING TO SEND THE, THE, THE, UH, TICKETS TO THEIR PARENTS AND BE, AND THEY LET THE PARENTS BE BLAME FOR SOMETHING THAT, THAT THE CHILD, YOU KNOW, WAS JUST HAVE SOME MIND TRYING TO GET YOU THROUGH. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE QUESTIONED AND A LOT OF, A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED BEFORE WE CONSIDER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, NEXT. MS. JOSIE. JOSIE. YES, SIR. JULIE JOSIE. MORNING JUDGE WOOD AND COMMISSIONERS. I TOO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE SCHOOL SCHOOL BUS CAMERA ISSUE. AND IN ADDITION TO, UH, THE OTHER GENTLEMAN PREVIOUSLY HAVE STATED, WE ALL KNOW THAT WE HAVE FIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES THAT ARE BEING PAID BY THE TAXPAYERS OF COTON COUNTY. THEY ARE THE LOCAL SCHOOL POLICE, THE CITY POLICE, THE CONSTABLES, THE SHERIFF DEPUTIES, AND OUR TEXAS HIGHWAY PATROL. SOME OF YOU DESIRE TO HIRE A SIXTH PARTY TO FIX A PROBLEM THAT, IN MY OPINION, DOES NOT EXIST. THE TAXPAYERS HIRED YOU TO BE RESPONSIBLE WITH OUR TAX MONEY AND WE ARE GOING TO HOLD YOU ALL ACCOUNTABLE. I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO DO THE JOB WE HIRED YOU TO DO AND NOT WASTE OUR MONEY ON CREATING MORE BUREAUCRACIES, CREATING MORE NEED TO TAX US TO DEATH. THIS IS APPROVED. IF THIS IS APPROVED, IT WILL CAUSE SUBSTANTIAL WORKLOAD FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT UNDER ARTICLE FOUR, LIKELY REQUIRING THE HIRING OF ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES, WHICH WILL PUT ANOTHER ADDITION TO THE TAXPAYERS FAILURE OF THE BUS CAMERAS TO PROVIDE AN AVERAGE OF AT LEAST THREE VIOLATIONS EACH OVER A FOUR DAY PERIOD WILL RESULT IN THE COUNTY BEING FINED $50 PER DAY PER CAMERA, OR $1,000 MY FRIENDS PER BUS PER MONTH. THIS WILL SURELY HAPPEN BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT THAT NUMBER OF VIOLATIONS HAPPENING. IF THIS RESOLUTION IS NOT ADOPTED, THEN PERHAPS THERE WILL NOT BE ENOUGH TEETH IN THE LAW TO SUPPORT THIS REPREHENSIBLE CONTRACT
BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND A TS. AND WE, THE TAXPAYERS CAN AVOID PAYING THE MILLIONS IN FINES, FEES, DUPLICATED SERVICES, COST, AND PERSONAL COSTS THAT THIS CONTRACT YOU'LL OBLIGATED THE TAX PAYING VOTING CITIZEN TO OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS. THIS COURT SHOULD NOT ENTER INTO THIS AGREEMENT WHERE THE COUNTY IS HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR HIRING AND MANNING CAMERAS, FUEL INSURANCE, MAINTENANCE, AND PAYING FINES. OUR TAXES ARE NEEDED FOR OUR ROADS AND TO PREPARE FOR ESSENTIAL FUTURE NEEDS OF OUR COUNTY. PLEASE VOTE NO. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. GO BACK UP TO, UH, TOP. LARRY . I BELIEVE YOU WERE THE TOP. LIZ, LARRY. THAT'S OKAY. SORRY. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY. I WANT TO TALK SOME SOMEWHAT ABOUT THE COST. UM, IT'S REPORTED THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE A COST OF THE COUNTY, AND THAT'S NOT TRUE. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHEN THIS CONTRACT BEGINS. IT SAYS HERE IN THE CONTRACT THAT IT BEGINS THE MONTH FOLLOWING, UH, THE FIRST CITATION ISSUED BY THE LAST INSTALLED CAMERA. SO MAYBE THE CONTRACT HASN'T BECOME EFFECTIVE YET. UH, ACCORDING TO WHAT I READ IN THE CONTRACT, EVERYTHING IS THE COST OF THE COUNTY AND THERE'S VERY LITTLE OF ANY BENEFITS AT ALL. WE'RE GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL EXPENSES RELATING TO THE VEHICLES SUCH AS THE INSURANCE, UH, UH, FOR ANY INSTALLED EQUIPMENT IN THE, UH, VEHICLES. IF WE DECIDE TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACTS EARLY, WE'RE GONNA PAY $95,000 PER CONTRACT OR PER CAMERA THAT'S APPROVED. AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT NOW, THERE'S FIVE CAMERAS HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR FIVE VEHICLES. THE COST OF $475,000 IF WE WANT TO GET OUT OF IT NOW. AND THAT'S IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY SCHOOL BUS CAMERAS. AND THOSE ARE GOING TO COST $10,800 A PIECE EACH TO GET OUT OF, UH, IF, UH, ACCORDING TO THIS ON ARTICLE 19 HERE, UH, AT THE TIME OF THE EXECUTION OF DISAGREEMENTS, UNDERSTANDING OF THE PARTIES THAT A S AND SERVICES PROVIDED HERE UNDER ARE NOT SUBJECT TO FEDERAL, STATE, OR LOCAL TAXES, INCLUDING THE NON LIMITED TO EXCISE SALES USED PROPERTY OR SIMILAR TEXAS AND SO ON. THAT MEANS THAT WE CAN BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING THEIR STATE AND FEDERAL TAXES IN ARIZONA, UH, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A COST TO THEM. THEY CANON THE COUNTY AN INVOICE, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT. WE'RE GONNA GET 40% OF THE REVENUE, OR THEY'RE GONNA GET 40% OF THE REVENUE OFF OF THE MOBILE CAMERAS AND 50% OFF THE SCHOOL BUS CAMERAS. UH, WE'RE GONNA ALSO GONNA BE FINE HERE. UH, THE CUSTOMER SHALL PROVIDE, WELL EACH PART OF THE COST. I'LL, UH, SUMMARIZE 'EM SHORTLY. THE CUSTOMER SHALL PROVIDE STAFFING FOR THE VEHICLE AND DEPLOY EACH VEHICLE FOR 12 CALENDAR MONTH, AVERAGE OF AT LEAST 160 HOURS PER MONTH. THAT MEANS DURING THE SUMMER WHEN THE VEHICLES AREN'T OUT THERE, WE'RE STILL LIABLE. THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, BASICALLY IT'S GONNA COST US 160 HOURS TIMES $50. THAT'S $8,000 PER, UM, PER UNIT TIMES FIVE UNITS. THAT'S GONNA BE $40,000 A MONTH TIMES TWO MONTHS. THAT'S GONNA BE AN $8,000 COST TO THE COUNTY FOR THE TWO MONTHS THAT THE SCHOOL IS NOT IN SESSION. UM, FOR THE START, WE'RE GONNA COST THE COUNTY 2,900, NOT $2,900 PER CAMERA PER MONTH FOR US NOT ISSUING THE CITATIONS. THAT'S THE COST OF THE COUNTY OF $14,500. THERE IS A LOT OF COST TO THE COUNTY IN THIS. THE REVENUE SHARING. UH, IF THERE ARE NOT ADEQUATE VIOLATIONS HERE, IF THE NUMBER, AVERAGE NUMBER OF VIOLATIONS DETECTIVE FALLS BELOW 0.75 IN ANY GIVEN MONTH AVERAGE THE COST, ALL THE CAMERAS INSTALLED IN THE BUSES, CUSTOMER SHALL PAY. CUSTOMER THAT'S CLOSE TO TAXPAYER SHALL PAY A TSA FLAT FEE OF $50 PER SCHOOL BUS CAMERA PER SCHOOL DAY. THAT EQUATES TO $10,000. THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY. UH, A TS SHALL PROVIDE THE CUSTOMER WITH A, UM, IF THIS GOES TO COURT, THEY'RE GONNA PROVIDE AN EXPERT WITNESS ONLY FOR THE FIRST TWO. THEN THE COUNTY'S GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR ALL THE OTHER EXPERT WITNESSES. THE, UH, THE, UH, JUDGE OR JP MAY HAVE TO HIRE THE EXPERT WITNESSES AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THE EXPERT WITNESSES TO TESTIFY AGAINST US, AND THEY'RE GONNA RULE IN WHO ARE GONNA RULE IN OURS OF THE COUNTIES. IT ALSO SAYS HERE, UNDER 1.3 0.11, CUSTOMER SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MOVING ANY PORTABLE CAMERA SYSTEMS FOR ONE LOCATION TO ANOTHER. AND, AND CUSTOMER WILL PROVIDE OPERATORS TO MAN ANY CAMERA SYSTEMS MOUNTED IN A VEHICLE.
CUSTOMER WILL ADD THE VEHICLE AND EQUIPMENT, UH, CONTAIN THERE INTO HIS INSURANCE POLICY. SO I SAY, YOUR TIME IS UP. IT'S $250,000 PER EMPLOYEE. THAT'S COSTING US FOUR 10 YEARS. COSTS $4 MILLION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WOULD BE RICHARD JACKSON FROM GOOD MORNING JUDGE. GOOD MORNING. UH, NOW I'M, I'M DOING, I'M GONNA START OFF A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. MY UNDERSTANDING, YOU'RE JUST VOTING ON RESOLUTIONS OF WHETHER CITIZENS ARE GOING TO BE, UH, BE, UH, CHARGED CIVIL, UH, CHARGES ON, ON RUNNING RED LIGHT. YES. CONTRACT CONTRACTS ALREADY SIGNED. CORRECT. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT CONTRACTS. I, I'M A JUST OLD SCHOOL TEACHER, BUS DRIVER, ET CETERA. AND, UH, I'VE TAUGHT MESQUITE FOR, UH, 29 YEARS. DROVE A BUS THERE 29 YEARS, GO BACK TO CATTLE MILLS FOR THREE, ABOUT FOUR YEARS LEFT OFF THERE. AND IN ALL THOSE YEARS, I'M COUNT ONLY TWO HANDS. HOW MANY CARS WERE IN MY BUS, YOU KNOW, IN A DATE IN A YEAR. I HAVE NOT HAD THAT MANY PEOPLE RUN BUSES. BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS CONTRACTS GOES, I'VE READ CONTRACTS, I'VE SIGNED NEW CONTRACTS. THIS ONE'S POORLY WRITTEN FOR US AND SIGNED BY YOU GUYS. AND, UH, THOSE WHO VOTED FOR THIS SHOULD BE ASHAMED. TWO OF YOU EVEN VOTED OUT OF OFFICE BECAUSE OF . THIS, I HAVEN'T LIVED IN COFFMAN COUNTY VERY LONG, BUT I'VE LIVED HERE LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW, UH, WHEN THINGS ARE NOT GOING RIGHT, PEOPLE ARE NOT HOLDING FOR THE THE PUBLIC. ALRIGHT, WAS THERE A STUDY DONE ON THIS? THAT'S MY QUESTION. WE WE'RE LISTENING TO YOU RIGHT NOW. THERE HAVE BEEN STUDIES DONE ACROSS THE NATION. NO, HERE, WAS THERE STUDY DONE HERE BY Y'ALL WE'RE THE CONTRACTOR OR THE PEOPLE WE'RE ENTERING INTO THE CONTRACT? WE'LL GIVE YOU ALL THAT INFORMATION. WELL SEE. THERE WASN'T A STAY DONE PER SE FOR US, I'M SURE. WHY NOT? I DON'T KNOW. WHAT IS THE RESPONSE FROM, UH, THE DIFFERENT CITIES AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ABOUT THIS? I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING GOOD FROM THE PEOPLE I KNOW. UH, THE TERMS ARE VERY AMBIGUOUS. THEY ALL LEAD TO THE CONTRACTOR GETTING ALL THE MONEY, GETTING OUT OF ALL THE RESPONSIBILITY AND PUTTING IT BACK ON THE TAXPAYER. I, FOR ONE AND TAXING UP. I, I HATE, I DON'T MIND PAYING MY FAIR SHARE, BUT I SURE HATE PAYING EXTRA WHEN I DON'T HAVE TO. AND BECAUSE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE INSENSITIVE TO THE NEEDS, WE'RE IN A POOR ECONOMY AT BEST HAS BEEN FOR YEARS, AND YET YOU ARE SPENDING MONEY LIKE IS GOOD YEARS AND IT IS NOT GOOD YEARS. UH, I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, WHEN YOU COME TO THESE RESOLUTIONS, IF YOU VOTE FOR THIS FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE TO PAY CIVIL LIABILITIES TO THIS, WHETHER YOU'RE IN OFFICE OR NOT, WHETHER YOU'RE GOING OUT THIS YEAR OR NOT, THAT YOUR FRIENDS NEIGHBORS ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE UP FOR THIS. I, AND YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, JIMMY WEAVER, I BELIEVE IS NEXT ON THE LIST. MORNING GENTLEMEN. I DON'T THINK I COULD ADD MUCH TO WHAT'S BEEN SAID. NOW. I, I GOT THIS CONTRACT A FEW WEEKS AGO FROM THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS IN CALL. AND ONE THING THAT I CAN ADD, IF THAT HADN'T BEEN BROUGHT UP, THERE'S ALSO, THERE ARE LOCAL AGREEMENTS WITH THIS THAT GOES TO THE SCHOOL BOARDS AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT PROPAGATE THEM TO BE PARTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THIS, AN IMPLEMENTATION OF IT. THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST ONES WORST CONTRACT AND, AND DISINGENUOUS ON TOP OF THAT TO USE KIDS AS A REASON TO FACILITATE NOTHING MORE THEIR REVENUE STREAM. THIS IS RIDICULOUS. NOW, RACE AT 77% OF THE PEOPLE VOTED IT OUT IN BB COUNTY. MY COMMISSION BROUGHT IT UP. IT'S MORE LIKE 80 OR 90% IN THIS COUNTY. THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE AGAINST US. IT'S UNBELIEVABLE. THIS IS JUST, THIS IS JUST THE TIP OF THE SIERRA RIGHT NOW. WHEN THIS GETS OUT AND EVERYBODY HEARS ABOUT IT, WE MAY ALL BE FOR
A JOB. UH, THAT'S ALL I GOTTA SAY. I WOULD, UH, I WOULD URGE TODAY TO NOT VOTE FOR ANY MORE LANGUAGE TO BE ADDED TO THIS CONTRACT. I WOULD STOP ANYTHING FROM THIS TIME FORWARD BEING ADDED TO THIS AGREEMENT. THAT'S HOW SERIOUS IT'S, THANK YOU, MR. WEAVER. . THANK YOU, JUDGE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. AS A DISCIPLE OF JESUS CHRIST. IT, IT, IT IS MY OBLIGATION TO HIM TO SHOW HIS LOVE TO OTHERS GENTLEMEN, I I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THIS AGREEMENT THAT SHOWS ANY OF THE LOVE OF JESUS CHRIST TO THE CITIZENS OF KAUFMAN. AND THAT CONCERNS ME. THE, THE LOVE THAT'S BEING SHOWN APPEARS TO BE TO A COMPANY FROM ARIZONA. AND, AND, AND WHEN I'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE IN PEOPLE APPROACHING BANKS AND VENTURE CAPITALISTS TO TRY TO GET THOSE PEOPLE WITH MONEY TO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR PROJECT, GENERALLY, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT I'VE EVER HAD A BANKER OR AN INVESTMENT BANK OR AN EQUITY HOLDER FUND A BUSINESS IN A MANNER THAT KAUFMAN COUNTY IS CHOOSING TO FUND THIS BUSINESS. 30 SECONDS. THERE'S NOT BEEN, AND I'M NOT COMPLETELY KNOWLEDGEABLE, BUT I I THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR COUNTY WITH TREMENDOUS DOWNSIDE RISK, AS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED, THERE SHOULD BE AN EXTENSIVE SERIOUS EFFORT TO RESEARCH IN COUGHLIN COUNTY. IS THERE ENOUGH VIOLATIONS THAT ARE OCCURRING FOR THE COUNTY TO REQUIRE THIS SORT OF RADICAL INTERVENTION WHEN WE ALL LOOK AT OUR LEGACIES IN THE CONTEXT OF SHOWING THE LOVE OF JESUS CHRIST, WHO LOVE AND THAT LEGACY WILL BE EXAMINED ONE DAY? DO WE WANT THAT LEGACY TO BE THE LEGACY OF OTHER COMMISSIONER'S COURTS WHERE WE'VE TAKEN TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND OVERPAID FOR A SPECIFIC CITY LOT THAT STILL STANDS UNUSED? IS THE LEGACY GOING TO BE LITIGATION THAT'S LEFT TO FUTURE COMMISSIONER'S, COURTS THAT COST HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO RESOLVE? IS IT GOING TO BE A LEGACY WHERE A COURT HAS GRANTED AN ENTITY, THE USE OF A COUNTY BUILDING RENT FREE FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME? I DON'T BELIEVE THIS COURT WANTS TO HAVE THIS AS ITS LEGACY. THANK YOU, JOAN. THANK YOU. RIGHT. UH, I BELIEVE NOW THE, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE REGISTERED TO SIGN UP. I BELIEVE EVERYONE HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. AND I WOULD, UH, ASK THE, UH, AUDIENCE HERE TODAY. WE'VE SET THE PATIENTLY HERE AND LISTEN TO THE COMMENTS OF, UH, THOSE THAT HAVE CHOSEN TO SPOKE TO SPEAK. I'M SORRY. AND NOW, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND THAT SAME COURTESY, UH, TO THE REPRESENTATIVES THAT ARE HERE TODAY FROM A TS AND ALSO FROM JOHN LONG, WHO HAS WORKED WITH, UH, THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM A TSI THINK MANY OF THE, I'M HERE ANYWAY. PARDON? I'M HERE. RIGHT. UH, UH, UH, MANY OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TODAY, UH, THIS CONTRACT HAS BEEN A WORK IN PROGRESS AND, UH, MANY OF THE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP ARE NO LONGER IN THE, UH, ORIGINAL CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE AFTER QUITE A BIT OF WORK AND NEGOTIATION WITH THE A TS. AND SO, UH, MR. HITER IS HERE AND HE IS THE CHIEF LEGAL COUNSEL, UH, WITH UH, A TS AND HE'S HERE TODAY. AND I BELIEVE MR. HITER, YOU'VE HEARD ALL THE COMMENTS THAT BEEN MADE HERE TODAY. I HAVE. AND, UH, JOHN, IF YOU WOULD, UH, KIND OF START TO TELL WHAT HAS OCCURRED OVER THE LAST, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS, UH, WITH THIS CONTRACT AND THE PROTECTIONS THAT ARE NOW BUILT INTO CONTRACT FOR KAMAN COUNTY AS FAR AS THE FINANCIAL RAMIFICATIONS ARE CONCERNED. SURE. UM, GEORGE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT BETTER THAN I CAN, BUT I, I RECALL THAT WE HAD, UH, CAN'T SPEAK UP FOR, I'M SORRY. WE HAD VOTED ON, LEMME GO OVER
THE COURT HAD VOTED ON THE CONTRACT, AND THEN THERE WERE ADDITIONAL CONCERNS THAT AROSE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS REGARDING, UH, INDEMNIFICATION AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN A LAWSUIT. IT FELT THAT A LAWSUIT, A LEGAL CHALLENGE WAS, UH, A CERTAINTY 'CAUSE IT'S HAPPENED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. AND, UM, AND, AND DEALING WITH THAT. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF MEETINGS. THERE WERE DIFFERENT CHANGES TO THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT THAT, UH, THERE WERE MADE BY TON COUNTY. I THINK THEY ALL HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED, UH, BY A TS. AND AS PART OF OUR REVIEW, I THINK, UH, YOU ALSO HAVE COUNCIL LOOK AT THIS AND IS THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION COUNTY MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR. THAT'S RIGHT. AND SO, UH, A LOT OF, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE, HAVE LOOKED AT THIS OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS AND, AND THERE'S BEEN A FAIR AMOUNT OF ADDED OR CLARIFIED SINCE THE INITIAL CONTRACT, WHICH I THINK WAS BACK IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR. GEORGE, WOULD YOU, UH, NOW WOULD YOU KIND OF, UH, ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE HERE TODAY THAT, UH, UH, MAY HAVE BEEN CHANGED, UH, SINCE THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT WAS, UH, INITIATED? I THINK YES. YES, SIR. HAPPY TO. UH, I THINK THAT MOST OF, UH, THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE CONTRACT AFTER THE CONTRACT WAS SIGNED, WE WERE HAPPY TO DO THAT, HAVE BEEN AS A RESULT OF DISCUSSIONS AND FRANKLY, A REQUEST BY THE COUNTY, UM, TO MAKE A FEW CHANGES TO THE CONTRACT. WE WERE HAPPY TO DO THAT. UM, AND I THINK THE LEVEL OF REVIEW OF THIS CONTRACT, UH, ACROSS THE STATE, NOT ONLY BY JOHN, BY TAG, BY THE FORMER CHIEF JUSTICE OF TEXAS, UH, ALL ACROSS THE BOARD, UH, HAVE PUT THIS PROGRAM IN, IN, IN A VERY GOOD POSITION FOR THE COUNTY. I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS. I WANT TO BE CLEAR, THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY NO QUOTAS ON THE SPEED CAMERA VANS. AND ON TOP OF THAT, THE SCHOOL BUS CAMERAS, THOSE REVENUES ARE BACKSTOP BY THE SCHOOL CAMERAS, THE, THE SCHOOL DOUBLE CAMERAS. SO THIS IS A SITUATION THAT, AND, AND IN THIS CONTRACT, AS LONG AS THE CONTRACT IS, IS ABIDED BY, AS LONG AS THE CAMERAS ARE DEPLOYED, IT'S NOT GOING TO COST THIS COUNTY ANYTHING. AND I'M, I'M A NATIVE TEXAS, I'M, I'M BORN AND RAISED HERE. I'M NOT COMING HERE TO, TO SELL BILL OF GOODS. I'M HAPPY TO, TO WALK THROUGH ANY QUESTIONS I HAVE AS FAR AS THE, UH, AND I CAN ADDRESS A FEW OF THE COMMENTS. I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FROM THE COURT OR OTHERWISE. AS FAR AS THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THE CAMERAS, THERE HAVE BEEN SEVEN US COURTS OF APPEALS, THE SECOND HIGHEST COURTS IN THE LAND, ONE STEP SIDE OF THE US SUPREME COURT THAT HAVE UPHELD THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THESE PROGRAMS, TREATING THESE VIOLATIONS OF CIVIL. AND FOLKS WHO GET ONE OF THESE TICKETS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WHO WAS DRIVING THE CAR. THAT, AND THEY HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. BUT AGAIN, I GO BACK TO THE FACT THAT THERE ARE NO QUOTAS IN THIS CONTRACT THAT ARE NOT BACKSTOP BY THE SCHOOL ZONE SPEED. THE LIKELIHOOD, THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE COUNTY COMING OUT OF POCKET FOR THIS CONTRACT AS LONG AS THE VANS ARE DEPLOYED IS ZERO. UM, A COUPLE OF THE, THE THINGS, AND I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS 'EM, I'M NOT SURE HOW RELEVANT THEY'RE, BUT I WAS TAKING NOTES IS PTS WAS UH, REFERENCED AS A CS, WHICH IS NOW XEROX. THAT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT COMPANY. THAT WAS NOT US. UM, THE, THE, UH, I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THERE WERE A COUPLE REFERENCES MADE TO RED LIGHT CAMERAS. THESE ARE NOT OBVIOUSLY RED LIGHT CAMERAS. THE, UM, PROGRAMS. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A SCHOOL ZONE BUS FOR SCHOOL ZONE SPEED PROGRAM PUT ON THE BALLOT ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY THAT HAS BEEN VOTED DOWN. UH, THE HOUSTON REFERENDUM ON RED LIGHT CAMERAS, RED LIGHT CAMERAS WAS 52 48, NOT 77. UM, 48. UH, FACE AGAINST. COULD I ASK HIM TO SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT OR AT LEAST TURN TOWARDS US? I BELIEVE THE COURTS ALREADY KNOW ALL THIS INFORMATION. WE'RE THE ONES THAT'S HERE TO HEAR. MAYBE YOU CAN KIND OF TURN THE, TURN AROUND A LITTLE BIT AND MOVE THE
MICROPHONE AROUND. SORRY FOR THANK YOU, SIR. UM, LEMME SEE. Y'ALL ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING AT S'S TAXES. I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT. THAT IS, UH, WE PAY OUR TAXES. UM, THE CONTRACT IS WRITTEN TO DISCUSS 160 HOURS. THAT'S AN AVERAGE OF THE YEAR. SO WHETHER OR NOT THESE ARE DEPLOYED DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, THE AVERAGE OF THE YEAR, IF YOU DEPLOY SEVEN TO SEVEN, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S 12 HOURS A DAY. NOW UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COUNTY MAY NOT CHOOSE TO DO THAT, THE AVERAGE OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR BEING 160 MONTHS AND YOU HAVE SUMMER SCHOOL, THAT'S ASK ALL OF THIS IS AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COUNTY, HOW THEY CHOOSE TO DEPLOY WHEN THEY CHOOSE TO DEPLOY. UH, I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT, UH, THERE IS A 25% THRESHOLD, UH, THAT I BELIEVE THE COUNTY HAS ADOPTED, THAT UNLESS YOU'RE TRAVELING 25% OVER THE POSTED SPEED, YOU'RE NOT GETTING A TICKET. UM, THE REASON IN THE CONTRACT FOR THE TWO EXPERT WITNESSES IS WE'VE BEEN IN SITUATIONS WHEN JOHN AND I HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, UM, IS BY THAT TIME THE COURT SHOULD TAKE JUDICIAL NOTICE OF HOW THESE CITATIONS ARE DRAWN AND ISSUED. UM, AND I, I GUESS I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COURT OR IF YOU'D LIKE, UH, TO ENTERTAIN OTHER QUESTIONS. I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS THEM. UH, THIS, WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE PUBLIC COMMENT, SO THIS IS THE DISCUSSION THE COURT WILL NOW HAVE. THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF HAVING THE COMMENT AT THE BEGINNING OF THESE SESSIONS. SO I'LL NOT ALLOW ANY OTHER PARTICIPATION FROM THE PUBLIC. THIS IS A DECISION FOR THE COURT TO BE MAKING HERE. JUST IN A, IN A FEW MOMENTS, JOHN, YOU ASKED SOMETHING YOU WISH TO SAY. YEAH. COULD, COULD YOU ADDRESS, UH, THE IMPORTANCE OF PASSING THE REGULATIONS? 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S COURT TODAY. HAPPY. SO AS THE COURT HAS ALREADY OBSERVED, THIS CONTRACT HAS ALREADY BEEN ENTERED INTO. AND, UM, THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S REGULATIONS ARE TO ADDRESS HOW IS, IS TO ADDRESS THE GOLF LAW AND IT ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT THE, UH, UH, JP COURTS HAVE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THESE VIOLATE THE ISSUE AND HOW YOU GET PAYMENT. SOME PEOPLE PAY VOLUNTARILY, SOME PEOPLE SAY, I'M NOT GONNA PAY. THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO SAY WHENEVER THEY GO AND RENEW THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE, THEY HAVE TO PAY THEM IF THEY'RE OUTSTANDING. IS THERE, I I I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. 'CAUSE IT'S NOT A CRIMINAL ACTION FOR PASSING THE CIVIL ACTION RELATED TO IT'S GIVING DIRECTIONS TO THE JPS. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S ENFORCEMENT. IT'S ENFORCEMENT. IT'S ENFORCEMENT LAND. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE, AND I BELIEVE THIS HAS BEEN WORKED THROUGH IS THE INDEMNIFICATION OF THE COUNTY. CORRECT. IF THE COUNTY IS, UH, UH, SUED BY AN INDIVIDUAL OR A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WHO, UH, STANDS THE LIABILITY FOR THAT KAMAN COUNTY OR ATTS SO THAT THOSE, THAT LANGUAGE HAS BEEN WORKED OUT WITH TAX WITH, UH, YOUR COUNTY ATTORNEY, MR. LONG AND WITH A TS. AND THE WAY THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN IS, UH, ASSUMING THERE IS A LAWSUIT CHALLENGING THE ENFORCEABILITY OF THIS PROVISION, A TS WOULD ASSUME THAT DEFENSE IN CLOSE WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH MR. LONG OR WHOEVER Y'ALL DESIGNATE. UM, AND THEN WE EXPECT THAT CHALLENGE TO COME, YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY EARLY IN MOST PROGRAMS IF THEY DO. AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY WE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN DEFENDING THOSE CHALLENGES, UM, UNIFORMLY. SO A TS WOULD HOLD, UH, KAUFMAN COUNTY, UH, THERE WOULD BE NO RESPONSIBILITY ON MEYER PARK TO DEFEND THAT. SO THAT'S CORRECT. IF, IF THERE IS A LAWSUIT, WE WOULD WORK WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND, AND TO TAKE A STEP BEYOND THAT. IN THE UNLIKELY SCENARIO, THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED. BUT IN THE SCENARIO WHERE, UM, THE COURT WOULD ORDER A REFUND, 100% A TS IS COMMITTED TO MAKING AVAILABLE 100% OF WHAT WE HAVE PAID ON ON THIS PROGRAM. OKAY. WOULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UH, LEAD IN TO THE PROGRAM? I BELIEVE THERE IS A TIME BEFORE THE PROGRAM STARTS WHERE THERE WILL BE A MASS PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN THAT'S CORRECT WITH PARENTS AND TEACHERS AND COMMUNITIES ABOUT THE PROGRAM AND, UH, HOW IT'LL BE OPERATED. COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT, SIR? AS AS I, AS I LIKE
TO SAY, THIS IS NOT A GOTCHA PROGRAM. THERE IS NO SECRET AGENDA. WE DO NOT TRY TO DEPLOY THESE IN ANY SECRET WAY. THESE ARE OPEN AND OBVIOUS, AND PART OF THAT INCLUDES PUBLIC EDUCATION, EXTENSIVE PUBLIC EDUCATION, BORN THE COST BORN BY A CS, UM, AND YOU KNOW, IF, IF NO ONE SPEEDS AND NO ONE RUNS PAST THE SCHOOL BUS, THERE ARE NO VIOLATIONS ISSUES. THIS IS ABOUT SAFETY, PUBLIC SAFETY, CHILDREN'S SAFETY, AND YEAH, SURE, WE ARE A FOR-PROFIT COMPANY, BUT THE REASON THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE DO IS BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF SPEEDERS IN THE SCHOOL ZONE. BUT THOSE STATISTICS, REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY COME, OF WHERE THE PROGRAM IS, IS ROLLED OUT OVERWHELMINGLY SHOW AND A HUNDRED PERCENT SHOW THAT VIOLATIONS COME DOWN. COMPLIANCE COMES INTO COMPLIANCE MORE. UH, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE PARTS OF THE PROGRAM. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? I HAVE A COUPLE. SURE. UH, UNDER TERMS THAT THIS AGREEMENT SHALL COMMENCE UPON THE EFFECTIVE DATE AND SHALL CONTINUE FOR A TERM OF 10 YEARS, BEGINNING ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE MONTH, FOLLOWING THE FIRST ISSUED CITATION FROM THE LAST INSTALL CAMERA SYSTEM IN THE FIRST SET OF APPROVED CAMERAS TO BE INSTALLED, THESE CARD DATES. SO IF WE DON'T PASS THIS RESOLUTION, UM, WILL THIS MAKE IT INEFFECTIVE IF WE NEVER IMPLEMENT THESE CITATIONS? IF WE NEVER ISSUE A CITATION, DOES THIS CONTRACT NO. AND VOID THE CONTRACT HAS BEEN SIGNED AND ENTERED INTO. BESIDES THAT, I THINK I NEED TO PROBABLY DEFER TO YOUR CITY COUNTY ATTORNEY ON, UH, ON THE PASSAGE ON THE RELEVANCY OF TODAY'S PASSAGE OF THE IS IS THE CONTRACT IS IN PLACE, THE PROGRAM IS ABLE TO OPERATE TODAY. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THAT JOB ABOUT THE CONTRACT'S IN PLACE? I THINK THAT'S CORRECT. I THINK THE CONTRACT IS CURRENTLY ALREADY ASKED, BUT DOES THAT ANSWER HIS QUESTION? WELL, MY, MY ISSUE IS, IS IF WE DO NOT ISSUE A CITATION, THEN WE HAVE NO START DATE. BECAUSE THE START DATE, AS I EXPLAINED WHAT I JUST READ, IS AFTER THE FIRST CITATION IS ISSUED. SO IT'S NOT IN EFFECT THE CONTRACT, THE CONTRACT'S NOT IN EFFECT YET BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T ISSUED A CITATION YET. THE CONTRACT TERM FROM WHEN THE TERM BEGINS TO WHEN THE TERM ENDS IS NOT IN EFFECT, THE CONTRACT HAS BEEN ENTERED INTO IT IS ACTIVE AND ACTUALLY VANS HAVE BEEN DELIVERED. SO THE CONTRACT IS ACTIVE, IT'S BEEN SIGNED. WELL, THIS COMES UP BECAUSE WHEN THE PROGRAM GOES LIVE, SO IF WE, IF WE, UM, LEMME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. IF WE SEND THE TER AND BECAUSE OF PUBLIC EDUCATION, IT'S DELAYED A MONTH OR WHATEVER, THE CONTRACT ACTUAL RUNS FROM THE DATE OF THE FIRST ISSUED VIOLATION TO THE LAST, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS LATER. ALTHOUGH THAT'S THE SEMANTICS, THAT PERMANENTLY THE AGREEMENT, BUT THE CONTRACT HAS BEEN SIGNED, IT IS ACTIVE, BUT FANS HAVE BEEN DELIVERED. OKAY. UH, ANOTHER QUESTION I REALLY APOLOGIZE. I DON'T MEAN TO SIT HERE WITH MY BACK TO YOU. I APOLOGIZE. I GOT A QUESTION FOR JACK. JACK, IS THIS CONSIDERED A VENDOR CONTRACT? A VENDOR CONTRACT? YES. I'M NOT HERE. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT A VENDOR CONTRACT SHOULD GO OUT FOR BID. UH, THE COUNTY'S NOT PAYING ANY MONEY. WE'RE NOT, NOT COST ANYTHING. SO IT DOESN'T MAKE US HAVE TO, WE'RE NOT COOPERATING PROCUREMENT LAW. IT'S ALSO ON, UH, YES, IT'S ON COOPERATIVE. SO WE HAVE, IT'S ON A COOPERATIVE, WHICH MEANS WE DON'T HAVE BID OUT, PLUS WE'RE NOT SPENDING MONEY. JACK. YES, WE ARE GONNA SPEND MONEY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE MEN FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT PUT THESE CAMERAS OUT EVERY DAY. WE'RE GONNA HAVE OUR JPS HAVING THE WHOLE COURT AND, AND ALL THIS. AND THIS IS COUNTY MONEY THAT WE'RE GONNA BE SPENDING TO ENFORCE HIS, UH, HIS, UH, COMPANY'S, UH, CONTRACT. AND SO, UH, IT SHOULD BE, UH, ARE WE GONNA SPEND $6? OH, WE'RE GONNA SPEND MORE THOUSAND 10 YEARS YOU GET OUT THIS THING. I WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS AND EXPLAIN EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE'RE GOING SPEND WITH, UH, WE GOT THIS CONTRACT FROM FRIDAY MORNING, NO, FRIDAY AFTERNOON BEFORE
A MONDAY COURT. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY IDEA THAT OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY AND OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY DID NOT READ THIS THING AND COME TO US AND EXPLAINED TO US THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT IS IN THIS CONTRACT. LIKE YOU WOULD'VE, YOU COME AND YOU TELL US EACH TIME HOW MUCH OUR CONTRACT'S GONNA COST AND WHAT WE'RE PAYING IN OUR FEES AND, AND YOU BRING THAT TO US AND DO IT. UH, LIKE I THINK WE SHOULD ONLY THAT CONCERN UNDERSTAND, NOT CONCERN ME AT ALL. RIGHT, I UNDERSTAND. UNLESS WE'RE WRITING A CHECK FOR 50. I UNDERSTAND. BUT LIKE I SAID, CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONTRACT BEING . I GOT MAYBE ONE MORE QUESTION. SURE. UM, UNDER THE GENERAL CUSTOMER IMPLEMENTATION REQUIREMENTS, UM, 1.3 0.1, CUSTOMERS SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MOVING ANY PORTABLE CAMERA SYSTEM FROM ONE LOCATION TO ANOTHER. AND I KNOW TRAILERS WERE DISCUSSED AND VEHICLES WERE DISCUSSED. THIS IS, AND CUSTOMER WILL PROVIDE OPERATORS TO MAN, ANY CAMERA SYSTEM MOUNTED THE VEHICLE. SO WE MUST, UH, HAVE A DEPUTY WITH THIS VEHICLE. NO, SIR. UM, THE, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND THE OPTION IS STILL AVAILABLE, THE OPTION WAS A TS PERSONNEL CAN MOVE AND RELOCATE THE VEHICLES. THERE'S A DIFFERENT PRICING SCHEME FOR THAT, BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE ARE ABLE TO DO. BUT THESE CAMERAS NEED TO BE DEPLOYED IN THE MORNING, AT LEAST THE THE SCHOOL ZONE CAMERAS, THE, UM, SCHOOL BUS CAMERAS ARE OBVIOUSLY AFFIXED TO THE BUS. THESE CAMERAS CAN BE, UH, DEPLOYED IN THE MORNING AND PICKED UP IN THE AFTERNOON OR, UH, UNDER THE SCHOOL BUS SAFETY CAMERA ENFORCEMENT. IF CUSTOMER OPTS TO HAVE A TS INSTALLED SCHOOL BUS CAMERAS ON ONE OR MORE BUSES THAT ARE NOT ON THE LIST OF RECOMMENDED BUS, BUS ROUTE, CUSTOMER AGREES TO PAY ATS OR 50 FOR SCHOOL, SAY FOR BUS. WHAT? EXPLAIN THAT. WOULDN'T THE ROOFS, WOULDN'T ANY ROOF QUALIFY FOR THIS? OR WHO, WHO PICKS THE ROOF? THE, THE ROOFS NEED TO BE MUTUALLY AGREEABLE, UH, BETWEEN THE, THE COUNTY AND A TS. SO AS LONG AS THOSE ROUTES, THOSE BUSES ARE AGREED TO, THEN WE ARE GOOD TO GO. AND AT S'S FEES WILL INCREASE AFTER TWO YEARS, BY 2% A YEAR. SO THAT, THAT IS A STANDARD COSTED LIVING INCREASE, KEEP UP WITH INFLATION THAT WE SEEN ELSEWHERE. VERY COMMON. SO IT GOES FROM 40% TO 42. IT, IT SHALL NOT EXCEED. BUT ALL OF THOSE ARE, I MEAN, IF, IF THE COST OF, IF THE COST OF LIVING, IF THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF INFLATION DOESN'T GO UP, THEN, UH, BY THAT AMOUNT, UH, A SIMPLE PHONE CALL WILL WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT, THAT CONTRACT. WE CAN'T JUST DO A SIMPLE PHONE CALL. NO, BUT I'M SAYING IT GOES WITH, WE DON'T, WE DON'T JUST BLANKET THAT. I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CALL THE COUNTY AND SAY, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THIS INDEX. IS THAT BASED ON CPI? YES, SIR. THIS SAYS, UH, AT S'S FEES WILL INCREASE IN JANUARY EACH YEAR BY THE GREATER OF A 2% OR BE THE PERCENTAGE CHANGE IN THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX. SO IS THAT NOT, SAY IT'S GOING GO AT LEAST 2% PER YEAR? THAT IS, THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN EASILY TAKE CARE OF. WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED INCREASE. EACH TOOK CARE OF THAT. BEFORE YOU COME TODAY, WE, WE, THIS IS THE QUIET LINE HERE. THIS IS DONE WITH ALL THE FEES. IT'S UNBELIEVABLE. I I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. I THINK SOME OF THE CONCERN I'M CUTTING YOU OFF, SORRY, COMMISSIONER, THAT THE CITIZENS THAT ARE HERE THAT AREN'T SPEAKING, AND MAYBE YOU CAN HELP US WITH THIS A LITTLE BIT, IS A LAWSUIT, UH, TRO, LIBERTY COUNTY, UH, EARLY WILEY, THE DA AND JOHN AND I WORKED TOGETHER. AND SO I THINK THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT THAT ISSUE, AND YOU MAY NOT EVEN BE FAMILIAR WITH THAT CASE. IS YOUR COMPANY, IS THERE A DISTINCTION ABOUT THAT AND HOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? I I YOU'RE NOT EVEN FAMILIAR A TRO AGAINST THAT, THAT A TS FILED SUIT LAST MONTH, WHICH THIS IS SAY SEPTEMBER, JULY, AUGUST. HAVE ANY IDEA? I'M GENERAL COUNSEL OF THE COMPANY. YEAH. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE IS NO LAWSUIT IN LIBERTY COUNTY INVOLVING ANY TRO THAT A TS IS INVOLVED IN. OKAY. AND,
AND, AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, WE, WE JUST HAVE THE CONCERN IS THAT THERE'S CITIZENS THERE HAD AN ISSUE AND THAT, AND THAT A TS FILED A TRO TO BLOCK THOSE CITIZENS FROM THEIR COMPLAINTS. AND I'M, AND I APOLOGIZE, THAT WAS A MAY 10TH SITUATION, SO THAT'S BEEN LONGER AGO. ARE YOU FAMILIAR AT ALL WITH THAT CASE OR THAT ACCIDENT? CAN YOU TELL ME, UH, LIBERTY COUNTY, WHAT, WHAT CITY IS THAT? IS THAT A RED LIGHT CAMERA CUSTOMER? YES. OKAY. AND LIBERTY COUNTY, IS THAT CLEVELAND, TEXAS? THAT WAS, UH, LET ME READ THE HEAD NOTE TO YOU AND I APOLOGIZE. UHHUH, IT WAS TO BLOCK HOUSTON RESIDENTS FROM VOTING IN 2011, AND THEY, IT WAS TAKEN TO THE US COURT OF APPEAL. UM, THERE WAS PRIVATE CITIZENS, A TEA PARTY GROUP HAD LED A SIGNATURE DRIVE FOR A BALLOT PETITION. AND THE COURTS, UH, REACHED, UH, I'M JUST READING IT FROM THIS HEADNOTE POLICE, TEXAS COURT UPHELD THE DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES WHO REJECTED A TS ATTEMPT TO PRESERVE THEIR BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY. I THINK WHAT IT'S SAYING, IF I READ IT PRETTY QUICKLY, IS THAT IT SUSTAINED AT S'S CONTRACT PROBABLY. AND THE TEA PARTY GROUP CAME IN AFTERWARDS TRYING TO STOP THE ENFORCEMENT OF THAT, THAT, ARE YOU FAMILIAR AT ALL WITH THAT? SO THERE HAVE BEEN, UM, SEVERAL GROUPS, GROUPS THAT HAVE, UH, FILED SUIT OR WHAT HAVE YOU, BASED ON REFEREND PRINCIPLES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. EVERY ONE OF THOSE HAS BEEN PUT DOWN. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT IT IS. UM, AND THE ONLY, I WANNA BE CAREFUL, I SAY THIS, I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M ACCURATE. THE ONLY ONE IN RECENT YEARS, IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS WHERE A TS WAS A PARTY, ACTUALLY A TS WAS A PARTY TO THE LAWSUIT, WAS INVOLVED IN THE CITY OF HOUSTON RED LIGHT CAMERA PROGRAM WHERE THEY FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST A TS TO GET OUT OF THE CONTRACT. OKAY. AT THE TIME THAT THE, AFTER THE REFERENDUM HAD PASSED. OKAY. AND THE, AND THE COURT IN THAT INSTANCE, AGAIN, THE CITY FILED A LAWSUIT TO ASK THE COURT WHAT THEIR OBLIGATIONS WERE. IN WINDING DOWN THE CONTRACT, THE COURT FOUND THAT THIS SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN PUT ON THE BALLOT IN THE FIRST PLACE. I UNDERSTAND. SO IT WAS MORE OF A SPECIFIC ISSUE ABOUT THE PLACEMENT ON THE BALLOT. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND THAT, THAT ELECTION WAS DECLARED. I THINK THAT IS THAT ISSUE, PERHAPS I'M NOT FAMILIAR. I'M ASKING A QUESTION BECAUSE WE CUT THE, THE, THE CITIZENS' OFFICE. I'M, I'M LIKE, AND JUST A QUESTION I HAD, BUT IN THIS INSTANCE RIGHT HERE, THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT THREE, TWO HAS VOTED, AND THAT'S WHY YOU KEEP SAYING CONTRACT IS PASSED. I UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS, BUT WE HAVE A CONTRACT AT THIS POINT. AM I CORRECT? AM I MISSING? SO NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PASSING OF THE RESOLUTIONS FOR ENFORCEMENT. AND SO I THINK, AND, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT EVEN AFTER THE CONTRACT WAS SIGNED, THE INDEMNIFICATION ISSUES CAME UP. WE HAD GONE BACK AND, AND WORKED THROUGH LANGUAGE ON THAT. HAPPY TO DO, AND THIS IS AGAIN, A, A PARTNERSHIP. OKAY. QUESTION FROM THE COMMISSION COMMENTS. I I DID NOT INTEND TO, UH, YES. TO AGREE TO THIS, TO PERPETUATE THIS, THIS BAD CONTRACT ANY FORM. I'M NOT PLANNING ON PICKING POCKETS OF MY TAX THAN I HAVE ALREADY. I'LL GO BACK TO THE VERY FIRST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS . WASN'T THAT THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE? WE TALKED ABOUT SAFETY, STUDENT SAFETY WAS THE REASON THAT I ASKED THAT THE CONTRACTOR AND I REMAIN THAT WAY. WE, UH, DO HAVE, UH, THE DAY WE SIGNED THE CALL, THE DAY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT VOTED TO APPROVE THIS, IT WAS A THREE, TWO VOTE. I BROKE THE TYPE VOTE THAT DAY. THERE WAS A CHILD THAT WAS HIT IN A SCHOOL ZONE IN CORNING ON A BICYCLE. WE'VE HAD A CHILD THAT WAS KILLED ON HIGHWAY 34, NORTH OF HERE, ABOUT FOUR MILES. THE DRIVER DID STOP. THAT WAS ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. I WAS DRIVING HOME, NOT, OH, A MONTH OR TWO AGO. AND THERE WAS A SCHOOL BUS ACROSS AN ISD SCHOOL BUS STOPPED ON HIGHWAY 34 LETTING OFF A CHILD. THE BUS WAS HEADED EAST, THE CAR WAS GOING WEST, THE CHILD GOT IN FRONT OF THE BUS. LUCKILY THE STOP, THE CHILD STOPPED. THE CAR KEPT GOING FORWARD. AND HAD THE CHILD WALKED IN FRONT OF THE BUS, THAT CHILD MIGHT HAVE, THE CAR MIGHT HAVE STOPPED OR IT MIGHT NOT HAVE. WHEN IT COMES TO THE LIFE OF A CHILD, I'M SORRY, I'M GOING TO ALWAYS COME DOWN ON THE LIFE OF THE CHILD, AND I'M TELLING YOU, IF WE ARE A
PRO-LIFE COURT, WHICH I'M SURE IF I WENT AROUND THIS TABLE AND ASKED THAT QUESTION, THAT WOULD BE YES, WE ARE. SO WE'RE PRO-LIFE BEFORE THE CHILD IS BORN. WHY ARE WE NOT PRO-LIFE TO PROTECT THAT CHILD AFTER THE CHILD IS BORN AND IS ON ITS WAY TO SCHOOL? IF WE HAD, IF I, I, I FEEL LIKE IF I HAD TOOK THE TIME, UH, I COULD HAVE FILLED UP THIS ROOM WITH CROSSING GUARDS AS TEACHERS AND OTHERS THAT WILL TELL YOU THIS IS A COMMON OCCURRENCE IN SCHOOL ZONES. I DROVE A BUS FOR 10 YEARS AND THE GENTLEMAN, I BELIEVE MR. UH, THAT YOU SPOKE, THAT YOU, YOU GOT A FEW YEARS ON ME ON THE BUS DRIVING. I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I CAN TELL YOU BACK WHEN I DROVE THE BUS IN THE SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES, EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T HAVE THE TRAFFIC WE HAVE TODAY IN CALTON COUNTY, I HAD PEOPLE THAT WOULD PASS MY SCHOOL BUS WHILE IT WAS STOPPING AND UNLOADING CHILDREN. TODAY, WHAT COMPLICATES IT EVEN MORE IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF DEVICES SUCH AS CELL PHONES, AS YOU ARE AWARE, AND PEOPLE NOW CITIES, MOST CITIES HAVE PASSED REGULATIONS THAT YOU CANNOT USE A CELL PHONE IN A SCHOOL ZONE. SOME STILL DO, BUT THERE IS A REGULATION, THERE IS A PENALTY AGAINST THAT. THAT IS ANOTHER REASON THAT I BELIEVE THIS PROGRAM IS EFFECTIVE, UH, WILL BE AFFECTED. AND IF IT SAVES ONE LIFE CHILD, I THINK IT'S WORTH IT ALL. AND I'M SORRY IF PEOPLE DISAGREE. I KNOW THIS IS AN EMOTIONAL ISSUE. UH, BUT THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM AND I SUPPORT THE PROGRAM AND WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAM. DO YOU FEEL LIKE, JUDGE, JUST I'M NOT TAKING, I'M SORRY, I, THIS IS A MEETING OF THE COURT. I'VE MADE MY STATEMENT, I'VE GOT OBJECT QUESTIONS FOR ATTORNEY HERE. IF LEGISLATURE COMES BACK IN SESSION NEXT TIME AND OUTLAWS LEASE, WHAT, WHO, WHO PAYS THE COST ON YOU THAT'S KEEPING THIS IN PLACE? WELL, THE, SO LET ME TAKE YOU BACK TO KIND OF THE, THE RED LIGHT CAMERA WORLD WHERE PROGRAMS WERE IN PLACE AND THEN THE LEGISLATURE ACTING, WHICH GOES TO THE TENURE CONTRACT. UM, WHEN BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE PASSED RED LIGHT CAMERA LAWS, THERE WERE A LOT OF CITIES AND COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS DEPLOYING RED LIGHT CAMERA PROGRAMS, UM, UNDER THEIR AL AUTHORITY, WHICH IS THE SAME AS WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE. WHEN THE LEGISLATURE CAME IN AND SAID, I'M GONNA PUT SOME STRUCTURE AROUND THIS DISCRETION OF THE COUNTY, I BELIEVE JUDGE, UH, JU, FORMER JUSTICE, CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE SUPREME COURT PHILLIPS CORRECT, HAS REVIEWED THIS PROGRAM AND HAS GIVEN IT A CLEAR, UH, TO MOVE FORWARD OR CLEAR OPINION TO MOVE FORWARD. THAT THAT'S CORRECT. TOM PHILLIPS, THAT THAT'S CORRECT. FORMER JUSTICE OF THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT. 20 YEARS FOR 20 YEARS. UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT, JUDGE, AND, AND I SAY THIS AGAIN, UM, LAST TIME I WAS HERE, YOU LOOKED ME IN THE EYE AND SAID, GIMME YOUR WORD. YOU'RE GONNA BE A, A GOOD VENDOR. YOU'RE GONNA WORK WITH US. I THINK TO DATE, WE HAVE DONE THAT WITH MODIFICATIONS TO THE CONTRACT. AFTER THE CONTRACT WAS SIGNED, YOU STILL HAVE MY WORD THAT GOING FORWARD, WE'LL BE RESPECTFUL, HONORABLE VENDOR THAT WILL WORK WITH YOU, MAKE THIS PROGRAM SUCCESSFUL AND PROTECT CHILDREN. SO YOU'RE GONNA TAKE ALL THE FINES, FEES THAT COULD BE RELATED ON THE COUNTY, COUNTY CONTRACT. WE HAVE JOB, I'M SORRY IF YOU'LL, WE, WE, WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WITH TAC WITH NUMEROUS, WE'RE TALKING COUNTY. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER AGENCIES, OTHER AGENCIES. , I HAVE WORKED TO BE WITH, WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO THE FULLEST DEGREE ON THIS CONTRACT. THERE HAVE TO BE, WE ARE, WE ARE DEPLOYING A LOT OF EQUIPMENT IN THE COUNTY. THERE'S A CONTRACT WE BE DOING OURSELVES. WE COULD HAVE DONE THIS JOB OURSELVES. SAME ABOUT TAXPAYERS, PAYERS, A LOT OF MONEY. THERE IS, THERE IS NO, IF WE'D HAVE USED THIS PROBLEM EXISTED. WE GOT THIS PROBLEM ON FRIDAY, SAID BOB MONDAY MORNING AND IT WAS TWO. YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. UH, OUR, I KNOW DA DIDN'T READ IT. SHE TOLD ME SHE DIDN'T READ IT. THAT'S WHY I SENT JOHN LONG. HE CAN HE READ IT FOR ME. , DON'T ME THROW HIM IN THE BUS. COMMER CHECK. YES. SO YOU'RE TAKING ALL THE OBLIGATION AWAY FROM THE COUNTY AS FAR AS HAVING PAID FOR THESE CAMERAS. THERE IS NO FORM THAT CORRECT. THERE IS NO QUOTA SYSTEM TO THESE CAMERAS. COMMISSIONER, THERE IS NO QUOTA SYSTEM. ALL FEES AS LONG AS, AS LONG AS THE CAMERAS ARE. WELL, IT CLEARLY STATES IN THE SCHOOL BUS AND THOSE, THOSE
THAT HAVE ISSUED THREE QUARTERS OF THE CITATION PER DAY PER, THEY'RE NOT USUALLY AGREE ON THE BUS. I ASSUME THAT NO, THAT'S ON ANY BUS. I THINK THAT THE LANGUAGE SAYS MUTUALLY AGREED BELIEVE THERE ARE, AND SCHOOL BUS CAN, AND, AND REGARDLESS, THOSE FUNDS ARE BACKSTOP BY THE, UM, SCHOOL ZONES. SO YOU HAVE TO RIDE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SCHOOL ZONING TICKETS TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T COST YOU A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER MONTH FOR EACH SCHOOL BUS CAMP IN THE SEPARATION. AS LONG AS THEY'RE PLACED ON BUS ROUTE BUSES THAT EVERYBODY AGREES. EXPLAIN THIS TO ME. I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY, JOHN, SIR. MADAM DA. THIS PRICING OPTION IS CONTINGENT UPON DETECTION OF AN AVERAGE OF AT LEAST 0.75. WHAT PAGE? WHAT PAGE? PAGE 12. I'M THAT'S OKAY. PAGE 12. UM, RIGHT ABOVE 2.0 WITH THE DOUBLE AS REVENUE. ALRIGHT. IS THIS EXHIBIT A? NO, HE'S, HE WHAT NAME THE DOCUMENT YOU'RE READING. UH, LEMME IT IS UNDER, YEAH. EXHIBIT A. YEAH. OKAY. IT SAYS THIS PRICING OPTION IS CONTINGENT UPON DETECTION OF AN AVERAGE OF AT LEAST 0.75 VIOLATIONS PER DAY PER BUS. IF THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF VIOLATIONS DETECTED FALLS BELOW 0.75 IN ANY GIVEN MONTH AVERAGE ACROSS ALL INSTALLED BUSES, CUSTOMERS SHALL PAY A TSA FLAT FEE OF $50 PER SCHOOL BUS CAMERA PER DAY. THAT'S $12,000 PER YEAR PER SCHOOL BUS CAMERA. IF THEY DON'T ISSUE 0.75 VIOLATIONS PER DAY ON AVERAGE, AND THAT'S ON ANY GIVEN MONTH. SO YOU COULD PICK ANY MONTH OUT OF THE YEAR THAT DOESN'T MEET THAT AND, AND APPLY THIS STATEMENT HERE AND WE WILL OWE THEM 12,000. OWE YOU $12,000 PER YEAR PER SCHOOL BUS CAMERA FOR EVERY CAMERA SCHOOL BUS CAMERA. WE HAVE. I'VE GOT QUESTION. IS THAT NOT TRUE, COMMISSIONER? ARE YOU SEEING 0.75 AS LESS THAN ONE VIOLATION PER BUS? YEAH, THAT MEANS YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE FOUR, SAY YOU HAVE FOUR CAMERAS OUT, YOU GOTTA ISSUE THREE TICKETS. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE. I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A LOT TO ME, BUT MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW. MEAN 0.75 IS LESS THAN ONE. YES. OKAY. MM-HMM . IT'S THREE QUARTERS. WELL, YOU'RE THE MATH GUY. I'M JUST, I'M JUST SAYING HERE IS GOOD WITH NUMBERS THAT NOT OUR AVERAGE, OUR AVERAGE VIOLATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE THREE A DAY. YEAH. EXCELLENT. WELL, WHAT I WANT IS HOW MANY OF THESE SYSTEMS DO YOU HAVE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS? WE HAVE, UH, SEVERAL. WHAT IS THE STATE? SEVERAL. WE HAVE A, I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT CONTRACTS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. NOW, THE OVERALL AVERAGE ACROSS THE STATE, ACROSS THE COUNTRY IS TWO TO THREE OF THEM PER SCHOOL. BUS PER AGREE UPON SCHOOLS. THAT'S RIGHT. NOW THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR THE CITY OR THE COUNTY, WHOEVER'S CONTRACTING, WANTS TO INSTALL IT ON A SPECIFIC BUS. AND WE AGREE TO THAT AND WE AGREE TO DO THAT. AND THAT'S WHY IT SAYS WE AGREED. WELL, THAT'S ON THE ADDITIONAL BUSES, NOT IN THE ORIGINAL ROOM. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. UH, I GOT A QUESTION FOR OUR AUDITOR. WHAT I WANTED TO ASK HER, DID WE IN THE BUDGET PUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS INTO THIS SCHOOL BUS, UH, ISSUE? YES. YOU DID. AT MY DIRECTION. I'M NOT BUDGET OFFICER COMMISSIONER MY AUDITOR, SIR. AND I DID, YES. OKAY. SO YOU'RE TELLING ME IF, IF WE DON'T ISSUE 4 75 VIOLATIONS PER DAY PER SCHOOL BUS CAMERA, THEN YOU'RE GONNA TAKE $12,000 A YEAR PER SCHOOL BUS CAMERA OUT OF OUR REVENUE OF THE CITATIONS THAT ARE ISSUED IN THE SCHOOL ZONE. IS THAT WHAT SHE JUST SAID? I I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES, BUT I THINK YOU'RE ASSUMING THAT ZERO ARE BEING APPROVED AS GOING NOT BEING ZERO, WERE BEING ISSUED 0.75. IF IT FALLS BELOW THAT, THAT'S, THAT TRIGGERS OUR FINER FEE OF $12,000 PER YEAR. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT.
UNDER THAT SCENARIO, WHICH IS JOHN, ALMOST, ALMOST, ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. BUT LET'S SAY THAT THERE IS $11,000 BROUGHT IN, THEN THERE WOULD BE A $1,000 THAT WOULD BE PAID FOR FROM THE REVENUES ON THE SCHOOLS. IF YOU HAVE A BUS CAMERA THAT IS, UH, THAT THE SCHOOL AND THE, UH, A S AGREED ON, AND IT'S IN AN AREA WHERE THE VIOLATIONS START DECLINING, THAT CAMERA CAN BE MOVED. MOST SCHOOL DISTRICTS KNOW. MOST DRIVERS KNOW WHERE THE HOT AREAS ARE. ABSOLUTELY. AND, UH, WHERE WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT DO NOT FOLLOW THE LAW AND DO NOT STOP. SO THOSE CAMERAS CAN BE MOVED ONE BUS TO ANOTHER IF IT'S NECESSARY. ABSOLUTELY. HAVE SCHOOL APPROVAL OR SUPPORT ON THIS. TO START WITH, SCHOOL DISTRICTS WERE THE ONE, ACTUALLY, THIS WAS BROUGHT TO ME BY THE, UH, COFFMAN AND IT WAS BROUGHT, UH, BECAUSE OF THE ACCIDENT THEY HAD ON HIGHWAY, UH, 34 WITH THE CHILD. UH, THEY'RE, UH, UH, OTHER, UH, INSTANCES ACROSS THE COUNTY WHERE WE DO HAVE BUSES THAT ARE VIOLATED AS FAR AS, UH, AS FAR AS RUNNING THEIR STOP SUIT. AND SO OUR, THE GOAL WOULD BE THAT THOSE PEOPLE THAT DO THAT WOULD BE GIVEN A CITATION AND SLOW DOWN. I WOULD CONTINUE TO SAY THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE, UH, MUCH PUBLICITY ABOUT THIS FOR THE FIRST 30 DAYS BEFORE IT GOES EFFECT, UH, PEOPLE WILL BE GIVEN FAIR WARNING, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WILL BE ABLE BE WORKING WITH EACH OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND COMMUNITIES TO IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM ON A AS NEEDED BASIS. WE HAVE FIVE CARS THAT WILL BE SPREAD ACROSS THE COUNTY, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S 60 OR SEVEN CAMPUSES, I THINK ACROSS THE COUNTY NOW. MAYBE NOT THAT MANY, BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CAMPUSES ACROSS THE COUNTY THAT WILL BE. SO WE HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS ON HOW NUMBER 12, COMMISSIONER, WELL, I GOT ONE WARNING ON THE WARNING PERIOD. IT SAYS, UH, $2,900 PER CAMERA PER MONTH, UH, FEE PLUS $2 PER ISSUE. I GUESS THAT'D BE A WARNING NOTICE IT SAYS NOTICE. SO WE HAVE FIVE CARS, SO THAT'S ALMOST $15,000 WE'RE GONNA OWE YOU FOR THE WARNING PERIOD. IS THAT CORRECT? THEY'RE NOT CUSTOMER STAFFED. PARDON? THIS IS THAT, THAT'S THEY'RE CUSTOMER STAFF. I'M, I'M HAPPY TO, TO ADDRESS THAT. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THE COUNTY HAS DECIDED WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GONNA DO A WARRANT PERIOD. IT'S GONNA LARGELY DEPEND ON THE JUDGE, UH, DISCRETION ON THAT. UH, IF YOU CHOOSE TO THOSE FEES, THAT'S BASICALLY DEPLOYMENT OF THE CAR AND WHAT IT COSTS US TO, TO PRINT AND MAIL A COLOR CITATION. THAT'S A WARNING. THOSE FUNDS GET BANKED AND ONCE REVENUES FROM A LIVE PROGRAM START OPERATING, THERE'LL BE SOME DRAFTS. SO YOU'RE GOING TO DO A WARNING PERIOD FOR A MONTH ON FIVE VANS. THAT'S ROUGHLY $15,000 PLUS HOWEVER MUCH, UH, COMES IN. UH, HOWEVER MANY NOTICES GO OUT AT $2 A PIECE. THOSE WILL NOT BE FROM A CHECK WRITTEN FROM THE COUNTY. THOSE WILL APPLIED AGAINST THE REVENUES THAT COME IN FROM THE PROGRAM EVENTUALLY. I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT IN CONTRACT BEFORE WE YOU STAND AND TELL US THINGS ARE GONNA HAPPEN. THE NATURE OF, OF THE BILLING THAT IS, IS ARRANGED IN THE CONTRACT. IT, I MEAN, THAT'S HOW IT WOULD WORK. THAT'S HOW, HOW IT DOES WORK, JOHN, THAT DOES SAY CUSTOMER STAFFING. WE'RE THE CUSTOMERS OF THAT VEHICLE. SO WE'RE NOT CUSTOMER STAFF. AND, AND AS FAR AS STAFFING, IT SAYS THAT THE, THE VEHICLES HAVE TO BE MANAGED. NOW, IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT TAKEN OUTTA, I'D LIKE TO SEE ANYTHING TAKEN OUTTA CONTRACT THAT YOU JUST RELATE TO THAT, UH, YOU SAID WE DON'T HAVE TO ABIDE BY ONCE, ONCE THIS I, AND WELL IMPLEMENTED, BUT START DATE, DETECTIVE START DATE HASN'T STARTED YET BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T ISSUED CITATION. THE, THE, THE PRICING PER, PER CAMERA FOR WARRANT PERIOD IS, AS IT SAYS, IS HOW THE FUNDS GET PAID. THAT'S THE, I MEAN, THAT'S HOW WE WOULD, THAT'S HOW IT'S TO MAKE JOHN. SO, SO THE, THE SMALLER FRONT ADDRESSES WHAT
YOU HAD SAID, GEORGE, THE, UH, ON THE FAR RIGHT HAND COLUMN, COLUMN ON PAGE 11 PAYMENT FEES PERIOD. THAT'S CORRECT. SHALL PAID OUT THE RECEIPT OF PROGRAM REVENUES ON RECEIPT. SO IT IS, WE DON'T PAY THE MONEY UNTIL WE IT, AND THAT'S, THAT'S STANDARD AGAIN, IT IS IN THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT IT COUNTY TO HAVE TO THAT ONCE THEY START COMING, WHAT IF THERE ARE ANY, IF THERE ARE NEVER ANY REVENUE FROM IT TO BE PAID FROM, THEN IT WOULDN'T KEEP PAID. SO YOU WOULD EFFECT, EFFECT, HAVE A PROGRAM ISSUING WARNINGS PER MONTH AND THEN ASSUMING THE WARNINGS WERE A HUNDRED PERCENT SUCCESSFULLY, YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE A PAID VIOLATION. AND THE IT WOULD NEVER BE PAID. IT JUST PAID OUT OF PROGRAM REVENUE. IF THERE ARE NO PROGRAM REVENUE, THEN IT'S NOT PAID. DO I HAVE A, YOU SAID THAT THERE SOME LANGUAGE HAVE BEEN CHANGED IN THIS. HE WENT ALONE, UH, TO PROTECT COUNTY. ANY FURTHER LANGUAGE THAT HE SAID HE'S GOING TO THE POSSIBILITY POSSIBLY WE HE HAVE IN THERE RIGHT NOW THAT YOU SEE IN THIS CONTRACT? ARE WE GOOD? ARE WE GOOD TO GO FIRST? I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE JUST POSTED FOR THE TWO REGULATIONS, THAT KIND OF BUSINESS, MY FOCUS FOR TODAY, I THAT ANYTHING YOU SAID IS CHANGING THE REGULATIONS TODAY. ADDRESS QUESTIONS ABOUT , UM, WHAT YOU SAID THAT'S NEW TODAY, JUDGE. UM, WELL THE, YEAH, THE COMMISSIONER, UM, NO OFFENSE, NO, NO. COMMISSIONER BROUGHT UP THE QUESTION OF CPI AND THAT DOESN'T CHANGE FOR TWO YEARS, BUT IF YOU WANTED TO JUST HAVE IT AS STRAIGHT CPI, I'D BE WILLING TO DO THAT. OKAY. BUT WE CAN, I MEAN, AGAIN, THAT'S TIME NOW AND TWO YEARS FROM NOW, I WOULD'VE TO HAVE ALL THE FINE SPEEDS, OBLIGATIONS, THE COUNTY, THERE'S NO REASON FOR US TO BE THE PIG. ALL THE COSTS WHEN IT DOESN'T WORK, TURN ALL THIS EQUIPMENT BACK IN 91ST YEAR PRORATED FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. UH, I, I SAID NO REASON TO PUT OUR THIS COUNTY FINANCIAL RISK PERIOD. WHAT ABOUT OUR STUDENTS? I LOVE OUR STUDENTS. I'M ALL FOR IT. THIS IS NOT GOING TO DETER ANYBODY THAT I THINK WE HAD TO ACCIDENT ON 30. UH, CHIEF EVANS NOT RELATED TO THIS. I UNDERSTAND IT WAS AN ILLEGAL ALIEN, POSSIBLY ATED THAT RAN AROUND THE SCHOOL BUS. I'M SURE HE COULD NOT READ THIS CONTRACT BY NOT EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE THIS, THIS, I MEAN, IT'S ALL IN THE NAME OF SAFETY, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO, IT'S NOT GONNA KEEP SOMEONE THAT IS OUT OF THEIR NORMAL SENSE FROM DOING WHATEVER THEY'RE GONNA DO. WE HAVE FIVE POLICING AGENCIES THAT CAN DO THIS JOB AND ARE DOING AND DOING A GOOD JOB. WE HAVE VERY, VERY FEW BUSINESSES IN THE COUNTY. OKAY, ITEM NUMBER 12. UH, I'M, UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, I TOO, AND I TELL YOU, I PAY A LOT IN COUNTY IN SCHOOL TAXES EVERY YEAR AND HAVE HERE IN THIS GOOD COUNTY. BUT I, IT, UH, I TRUST MY CHARLES POLICE DEPARTMENT, I MEAN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM TO TAKE CARE OF IT. AND THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB. IF MY, MY LIGHTS ARE ON EVERY DAY. IF MY DRIVE THROUGH, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE, UH, PEOPLE'S FEES. THEY'RE ALWAYS VERY COURTEOUS AND SO I THINK, UH, I'M GONNA COOK PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTY. I CONTEND THAT THERE ARE FIVE POLICING AGENCIES THAT WORK IN THE SCHOOL ZONE AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE AROUND THE SCHOOL BUSES TO A GOOD JOB. OKAY. ALRIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER 12? DISCUSS AN ACT ON A REGULATION OF COFF COUNTY TEXAS HOLDING A MOTOR VEHICLE OWNER LIABLE FOR THE OWNER'S MOTOR VEHICLE OPERATING IN, IN THE FUEL ZONE IN EXCESS POSTED SPEED LIMITS AND IMPOSING A CIVIL PENALTY. FOR VIOLATION OF THIS TION ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO EITHER APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE. I
APPROVE IT. DISCUSSION, UH, DISCUSSION. I HOPE THIS IS MY LEGACY. ALLUDED TO IT. IT WAS, I WANTED BE THAT I'M DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO PROTECT MY KIDS. THIS IS NOT ABOUT MAKING MONEY IF IT MAKES ANY MONEY OR NOT, BUT IT'S WHAT REFERRED TO A LOT OF TIMES IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AS A CALMING DEVICE. ONCE YOU HAVE SOMETHING AFTER THERE, THEY SEE SOMETHING AFTER THERE. DO YOU SLOW DOWN? WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE HIGHWAY AT 80, YOU DON'T SEE A HIGHWAY PATROL FOR 40 MILES, BUT YOU SEE A HIGHWAY PATROL ALONGSIDE THE ROAD TWO OR THREE TIMES. GUESS WHAT? YOU DRIVE BACK DOWN TO SEVEN BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT GET THAT TICKET. IT'S A CALMING DEVICE. IT'S NOT CONDITION CITATIONS, JUST THEIR PRESENCE HELPS GET THAT JOB DONE. SO YOUR MOTION IS TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 12TH. ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE A SECOND SHERIFF'S CARD? I'LL SECOND THIS MOTION AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY. UH, I'M HERE FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING RIGHT NOW AND CAN'T BE HERE, WHO HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN WHO ARE LIVING IN THE RURAL AREAS OF THIS COUNTY, THAT SCHOOL BUSES RUN UP AND DOWN EVERY DAY THAT I PERSONALLY WITNESS. YOU SAY THERE'S NO VIOLATIONS. I PERSONALLY WITNESSED PEOPLE RUNNING UP AND DOWN THE ROAD, GOING AROUND SCHOOL BUSES. THE KID GET HALFWAY OUT IN THE ROAD AND THEY NEARLY GET KNOCKED OFF IN THE BAR DITCH, YOU KNOW, AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE ONE CHILD'S LIFE, IT IS PRICES. YOU CANNOT PUT A PRICE ON IT. ONE CHILD WHO MAY GROW UP TO BE THE GOVERNOR OF THIS STATE MAY GROW UP TO BE THE JUDGE, THE COMMISSIONER, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. YOU CAN'T EVER TELL WHO IT'S GOING TO BE. AND I'M HERE TO TRY TO PROTECT THOSE KIDS AND PROTECT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING TODAY, WHO'VE GOT ALL THESE YOUNG KIDS IN SCHOOL WHO ARE RIDING THE SCHOOL BUSES. SO I SECOND MOTION. OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND. UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY, WE HAVE A VOTE. THREE, TWO, APPROVING ITEM NUMBER 12. UH, ITEM NUMBER 13 IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON THE REGULATION OF CA COUNTY, TEXAS HOLDING A MOTOR VEHICLE ON LIABLE FOR THE OWNER'S MOTOR VEHICLE OPERATOR THROUGH DISREGARD OR IN DISREGARD THE SCHOOL BUS SIGN AND IMPOSING A CIVIL PENALTY FOR VIOLATION OF THIS. HAVE A MOTION CONCERNING THIS. SO MAY HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK. SECOND, THE MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. PARDON? I APPRECIATE ALL Y'ALL BEING HERE TODAY GIVING US YOUR VIEWPOINTS ON I REALLY DO. I I LISTEN. WROTE DOWN ON YOU SAID OUR VIEWPOINTS COMMISSIONER. YES, SIR. BUT I HAVE NOT HAD ONE TELEPHONE CALL, ZERO TELEPHONE CALLS AT MY OFFICE OPPOSING THIS. NOBODY KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT IT, SIR. I MEAN, YOU DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE LAST MONDAY. SO HOW WE SUPPOSED TO KNOW ABOUT IT? I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU SUPPOSED TO KNOW ABOUT IT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU, YOU THE COMMISSIONER SCHOOL. WE SUPPOSED TO BE POSTED ABOUT IT. WE HAVE A SECOND. DO WE HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE COURT? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. SO OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIED. UH, WITH A FREE TWO VOTE. UH, ITEM NUMBER 14. AND WE'VE GOT ANOTHER MEETING. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, UH, TAKE A RECESS FOR HERE. JUST A MOMENT. UH, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU MR. S FOR BEING HERE. UH, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND CONDUCT, UH, ITEM NUMBER 14 TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER REQUESTING PROPOSAL FROM HDA REGARDING, UH, OR REGARDING APPROVED VENDORS FOR THE RADIO COMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT OR THE COUNTYWIDE DISPATCH CENTER COUNTY. UH, GENTLEMEN, IF YOU'RE AWARE, WE STILL, I'D ASK YOU TO REMAIN SILENT IF YOU'RE AWARE. DISPATCH CENTER IS NEW. ALSO AWARE, EQUIP, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BUY THOSE OFF OF CONTRACTS AND TRY TO CONTACT ALL THE H VENDORS COUNCIL PACKET
USING THE ONE, THE COOPS START OFF USING THE VERY, OKAY, THIS STARTS THE PROCESS. SO THIS BUILDING GOES UP, THIS IS THE NEXT STEP OF THAT. THIS IS THAT 700 THAT IS, THAT'S THE HIGHEST LEVEL. WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO CHANGE FREQUENCY. GEORGE, STEVE, WHO AND GEORGE TOP OF THAT. BUT STEVE HAS DONE, HAD TO WORK ON THIS, WHO'S OUR RADIO EXPERT AND, UH, I'LL OVER STEVE COMMISSIONER. UH, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US COULD EVER SAY THAT. WE'LL NEVER HAVE TO CHANGE THIS AGAIN. IS THIS THE ULTIMATE LEVEL THAT'S OUT THERE? THIS IS WHERE EVERYBODY IS GOING NOW TO ACHIEVE THE BEST COMMUNICATIONS AND SAFETY FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIREFIGHTER. WILL THIS COMMUNICATE WITH WARNING SYSTEM? YES SIR. IT'LL, YES SIR. EVERY SYSTEM BY FEDERAL REGULATION THAT WILL BE INTEROPERABLE WITH ALL, UH, SEVEN AND 800 MEGAHERTZ SYSTEMS. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I THINK WE MAKE SURE WHAT WE BUY. ARE THESE UNITS GETTING SMALLER NOW AS, AS THEY GET FASTER ON THE RADIAL? IT ACTUALLY, NO, THE, THE ACTUAL SIZE OF THE UNITS IS STILL ABOUT THE SAME. UH, SOME RADIO SYSTEMS YOU CAN GET SMALLER RADIOS, BUT, UH, COMING FROM THE FIRE SERVICE, IF YOU GET 'EM TOO SMALL, MAKES 'EM TOO EASY TO LOSE. SO YOU WANT 'EM BIG ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN GRAB 'EM AND HANG ON. THIS IS JUST FOR HAND DOWN MOBILE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING FROM THE DISPATCH ALL THE WAY UP TO THE, SO THIS IS NEW RADIOS FOR THE DISPATCH CENTER, FOR THE CARS, FOR THE , FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE WANT TO LOOK AT IT IN TWO PHASES. ONE FOR DISPATCH TO GET IT UP AND RUNNING. AND THEN SECOND PHASE WOULD BE TO PUSH THE 700 STUFF OUT TO ALL THE UH, PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE COUNTY STARTING WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO ARE CARS NOW THAT ARE NOT ON THE 700, WILL THEY BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THIS? YES. THIS HAS A CONTINGENCY IN THERE SO THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND ANY UNITS THAT ARE NOT ON THE 700 SYSTEM WILL STILL BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THIS. WE DON'T WANNA BUY HALF THE SYSTEM AND THEN COME BACK WHEN WE GET THIS AND SAY, OH WELL WE HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS TO CHANGE OUT EVERY, WELL UNIT, EVERY FIRE DEPARTMENT, EVERY HANDHELD. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ALL OF THE COUNTY EQUIPMENT NOW IN THAT WE HAVE NOT LOOKED AT ANYTHING FOR THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS AT THIS POINT. ONE THING YOU KNOW THAT'S GONNA BE UP TO YOU IS TO HOW IF, IF AND WHEN WE DO FUND OR HELP FUND VOLUNTEERS TO GET THE EQUIPMENT, THE WAY THE SYSTEM WILL BE DESIGNED SO THAT THEY CAN STAY IN THE VHF AS LONG AS NECESSARY UNTIL THEY CAN AFFORD IT OR WE CAN AFFORD TO HELP THEM AFFORD IT. WELL, MY QUESTION WOULD BE, UH, CAN THE SDS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE AN ESD, CAN THEY CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS UH, THE RADIO FIRE DEPARTMENTS? YES, SIR. WE ALREADY HAVE THEM. THE ESDS CAN HELP HELP THEM TO PURCHASE THOSE RADIOS. I THOUGHT MY THOUGHT WAS MAYBE ON THE S ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE COULD PURCHASE MAYBE THE MOBILE UNITS FOR THE, THEIR EQUIPMENT AND MAYBE THEY COULD PURCHASE THE HANDHELD UNITS OR SOMETHING, BE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM AND, AND THAT PART IS UP TO, UP TO YOU GUYS. MAY I ASK A QUESTION? I HAVEN'T BEEN INCLUDED IN ON ANY OF THIS, SO I DIDN'T PUT ANYTHING IN THE BUDGET. HOW WE NO MA'AM. AND YOU, WE, THIS WILL HAVE TO BE FINANCED. OKAY. YEAH, THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. WE'LL EITHER DO A LEASE PURCHASE OR SOME PART OF A SHORT TERM LOAN. I MEAN WE HAVE NO MUCH NO MA'AM. THAT'S PURPOSE OF HAVING JACK GO OUTSIDE AND DO THAT. I THINK WE'VE GOT A STARTING NUMBER. WRONG HOPE, HIGH END. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF, FIVE NUMBER. WE EXPECT TO COME DOWN WHILE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND E EACH OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK
TO ON HT A CI KNOW FOR A FACT EACH OF 'EM HAVE SOME TYPE OF FINANCING HELP SELL THEIR PRODUCTS. AND THIS WILL BE MULTIPLE BRANDS, NOT JUST ONE BRAND. WELL, WE, WE WANT TO TRY AND KEEP IT AS ONE, ONE BRAND POSSIBLE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU WE'RE ACCEPTING THIS FROM. YES, YES, YES. ALRIGHT. MOTION. MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, CONSIDER REQUESTING FOR WE HAVE A MOTION. THANK YOU FROM COMMISSIONER ROSALE. MR. SHANE, I SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE BOTH GENTLEMEN, UH, I BELIEVE WE WILL TAKE A RECESS AT 1125 AND GO OUT TO OUR OTHER MEETING, UM, TRANSPORTATION. AND THEN WE WILL RECONVENE JUST AS SOON AS THAT MEETING IS COMPLETED AND WE'LL FINISH. YOU GONNA BE ABLE TO TAKE NOTES? YOU GOT IT? OKAY. MOTION WHEN YOU COME BACK OUT. RECESS. AND IT'S ONE 15. HAVE MOTION COMMISSIONER CLARK. SECOND. SECOND. COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER 15 AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS LINE ITEM TRANSFER. ALRIGHT, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YOU ARE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE THE NEXT ONE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. RIGHT? SEE, I REALLY SHOULD HAVE IT DONE ALREADY, BUT PAPER YET. ONES OVER 5,000, SIR. JUST ONES OVER 5,000. UH, THE ONES OVER 5,000 WAS, UH, IN THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT, OUR INSURANCE AND GENERAL LIABILITY WAS FOR 65 37. BUT WE LOWERED THE AUTOMOBILE LIABILITY BY THE SAME AMOUNT. UH, AUTOPSY WENT UP, HAD TO GO UP 14,500 BECAUSE WE GOT A, WHEN IT 20 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS. BILL. BILL FROM DALLAS COUNTY. AND WE LOOKED AT IT TO COUNT ALL THE DIFFERENT AUTOPSIES THAT HAD BEEN DONE. HOW, HOW FAR BACK THAT WINDOW? UH, I THINK IT WAS JUST FOR COURT OF LAST MONTH. COURT OF SEPTEMBER. OH REALLY? SEPTEMBER. YES SIR. WE'VE GOT ALL, USUALLY WE'RE GETTING ALL THE BILLS CURRENT, BUT ABOUT THE ONLY ONE WE'RE NOT IS LIKE ON COURT FOREIGN ATTORNEYS BECAUSE THEY HOLD THOSE UNTIL THEY GET TO TRIAL AND ALL THAT. OKAY. UH, YOU MAKE 5,000 UM, CHARITIES, COURT AND RELIEF, WHICH IS DEPARTMENT 6 56. THIS IS WHERE ALL YOUR INDIGENT DEFENSE COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEYS ARE PAID OUT OF IN CPS. WE HAD TO INCREASE THE CPS ATTORNEYS BY $90,000. SO WE HAD TO LOWER THE DIFFERENT OTHER LINE ITEMS BY THAT AMOUNT MADE UP FOR TO BE ABLE TO PAY THE LIST. UH, THERE WERE SOME SOLUTIONS I WANNA CHECK ON. YEAH, I THINK THE, I WAS GONE THE DAY THEY MET, BUT THE DEFENSE I THINK MET HAD TALKED WITH THE UNION C PS ATTORNEY AND UH, HE'S A FORMER COUNTY JUDGE AND UH, ALSO THINK WAS A DISTRICT JUDGE, COUNTY COUNTY AND HE, UH, WHICH I MEAN HE OBSERVED. AND SO I THINK THAT BEING SLOWED DOWN, SLOWED DOWN DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE. ONE THAT SOUNDS, UH, IN DEPARTMENT 6 9 7, WHICH IS YOUR COMPUTER INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, THE LANDLINES HAD WENT UP AND WE HAD TO ADD 20,005 11 TO IT. UH, CELL PHONES AND AIR CARDS WE HAD UP TO 7,500. WE REDUCED THE ELECTION SOFTWARE BECAUSE WE ONLY PAID FOR HER MAINTENANCE FEES IN THE YEAR AND HER TAX ASSESSOR SOFTWARE. UH, THE NEXT ONE OF 5,000 WAS FOR COMMISSIONER SHANE. UH, THAT WAS HIS $91,252 PAYMENT TO PAY OFF HIS BUYBACK. WE GOT AN $85,000 TRANSFER FRIDAY. I VERIFIED IT BECAUSE HE CALLED ME AND ASKED ME FOR INFORMATION TO SEND IT TO US. SO I HAD TO UP IT 6,200 TO BE ABLE TO PAY THE BILL. OKAY, LEMME BUY THAT. UM, ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCT FOUR ON PARTS AND REPAIRS. WE HAD TO UP 40,000, BUT HE TOOK THAT AWAY FROM HIS TOOLS AND NEW EQUIPMENT
AND I THINK THAT WAS THE ONLY ONES THE 5,000 COMMISSION. UM, THE AMENDMENT OPERATING LEASE IN PRECINCT THREE SHOWS $85,000 PAYMENT AND UH, INCREASE IN THE SALE OF THE EQUIPMENT WAS 85,000 FROM EAST TEXAS MAC THAT WE RECEIVED. THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS A $500. AND, UM, FOR THE CHILDCARE CENTER, SHE, YOU REMEMBER HER LAST REPORT THAT SHE, I DON'T REMEMBER SHE PRE PRESENTED IT TO JUDGE, PRESENTED IT TO YOU. SHE, WE ADDED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BECAUSE SHE SHORTHAND SHORTHANDED COULDN'T. RIGHT. SHE, BECAUSE OF BEING SHORTHANDED AND HAVING ALL THE EXTRA CHILDREN, SHE'S GOTTEN WAY MORE REVENUE FROM THE STATE THAN SHE HAD ACTUALLY BUDGET FOR. SO WE HAD TO ADJUST HER FULL-TIME. PART-TIME WORKERS, UH, THAT SHE HAS COME IN TO HELP AND, UH, INCREASE SOME OTHER LINE ITEMS BECAUSE OF THE EXTRA KIDS. SHE HAD, YOU KNOW, HOUSE CLEANING SUPPLIES, GROCERIES OFFICE, MEDICAL SCHOOL SUPPLIES AND THINGS. AND WE INCREASED HER REVENUE LINE ITEM BY 49,000. SHE GOT MORE THAN THAT, BUT THE ONLY ALLOTTED THAT WE HAD HAVE, BECAUSE THEN THE REST OF IT'LL ROLL OVER HER BALANCE NEXT TIME SHE GETS IN A FULL. AND THEN THE LAST ONE WAS PAGE ALL BY ITSELF AND IT WAS FOR JUVENILE PROBATION WHERE WE MOVED THAT MONEY AROUND, USED ALL THE STATE MONEY AND NOT THE COUNTY. GOOD. ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT AUTOPSY FOR MONTH OF AUGUST? HOW MANY? WAS IT 29,000? NOT ENOUGH. 50? NO SIR. TRANSFER WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONSIDER OR TO APPROVE THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS. SECOND MANNING AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CHANG. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? I HAVE A QUESTION. DID YOU SEE THERE WERE BUDGET AMENDMENTS? MM-HMM . DID YOU APPROVE THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS? WE NEED A SEPARATE MOTION FOR THOSE. NO. OH, I THOUGHT MOTION. I I MAY WE APPROVE THE BUDGET ALSO. OKAY. AS WELL AS THE LINE LIE. ALRIGHT. EVERYBODY AGREE? ALRIGHT. YEAH, WE CAN HANDLE. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS THE DISCUSS THE FOR PAYMENT. AND UH, DID YOU SAY, WELL SECOND I HADN'T GOT THERE YET BECAUSE I NEED YOUR PERMISSION. MR. UH, I GOT THE PAPERWORK LATE FRIDAY AND THERE ARE BILLS FOR PAYMENT TO PAY BANK COURT SOUTH THE, THE PAYOFF AND I HAVE TO WRITE THEM A CHECK TODAY FOR 91,000 252 49. I'VE ALREADY RECEIVED THE EIGHT 5,000. SO IT'S JUST THE ADDITIONAL SIX THAT I NEED TO PAY, BUT IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE SCHEDULE. OKAY. AND I WANTED Y'ALL TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I HAD TO DEAL WHEN Y'ALL, WHEN Y'ALL DO A LEASE OR A BUYBACK, I HAVE TO GET A LETTER FROM THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY. I HAVE TO GET INSURANCE AND ALL THIS STUFF COVERED AND ALL THET SCHEDULES THAT ALL HAS TO BE PUT TOGETHER. THEN I HAVE TO TAKE AND HAVE THE COUNTY JUDGE CUT THEM A CHECK IF I HAVE TO CUT THEM A CHECK. AND IT TAKES A LITTLE PROCESS TO GET ALL THIS TOGETHER. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S KIND OF LIKE A LAST MINUTE BRUSH TO GET THAT DONE. YES SIR. HONOR, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? WARN HAVE TO DO THAT? NO, I MEAN YOU'LL SEE THE CHECK, IT'LL COME ON ANOTHER REGISTER, BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW AGAIN THAT MUCH I WOULD WANT NOT WANT TO NOT TELL YOU. I RATHER TELL YOU UP FRONT IF IT'S GONNA CUT THAT CHECK. OKAY. OKAY. DO YOU UH, DO YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND INFORM THE COURT? I'M FIXING TO. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, I GOT A LETTER FROM THE
IX AND UH, PAYROLL DEPOSIT WAS NOT MADE ON TIME. IT WAS BECAUSE THEIR PROCESS, YOU HAVE TO GO ON THEIR SITE, THEIR WEBSITE, AND THERE'S THREE PAGES THAT YOU HAVE TO CLICK THROUGH TO ACTUALLY FINALLY SUBMIT THE WITHHOLDING, THE SOCIAL SECURITY MEDICARE. THE THIRD PAGE WASN'T SUBMITTED. UM, MR. COUNTRYMAN WROTE HIM A LETTER AND ASKED HIM TO WAIVE THAT PENALTY AND THEY REFUSED ABOUT THIS FRIDAY. AND THE REASON WHY THEY SAY THEY REFUSED IT IS BECAUSE IN HIS LETTER HE SAID HE HAD A GOOD HISTORY OF MAKING TIME DEPOSIT. HOWEVER THEY'VE REVIEWED IT, IT HADN'T BEEN. SO I ASKED MR. COUNTRYMAN WHAT HAD BEEN DONE IN THE PAST BECAUSE I WAS FIXING TO WRITE A LETTER MYSELF AND HE SAID HE KNEW OF NOTHING. SO I ASKED MY PAYROLL CLERK AND WITHOUT THEM GOING TO THEIR SUPERVISOR, THEY WROTE LETTERS TO HAVE THE IRS WASTE AND OTHER THINGS THAT NOBODY EVER KNEW OF. SO THE IRS IS REFUSING TO WAIT. I'VE GOT PAY THEM 38,000 76, 40. FINE. WE BEEN ON FIELD, I THINK FOR A OF TWO, THREE MONTHS. SHE, WE TRY TO PAY AGAIN, BUT I THINK THEY, THEIR MONEY, I HAVE TO HAVE THEM PAID BY SEPTEMBER 30TH ARE THEY'RE GONNA CHARGE ME MORE PENALTY OF INTEREST AND I THE LETTER BECAUSE I WANT Y'ALL, I'M TELLING THE NO SIR. I MEAN BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE ARE PUT IN POSITIONS AND THEY DO THEIR JOB AND THEY MAKE INNOCENT MISTAKES. WE ALL MAKE THEM AND NO ONE SAID NOTHING TO THE SUPERVISOR SO NOTHING CAN BE DONE. HOW FAR BACK KNOW THE STATE JUDGE? UH, ONE IS OVER TWO YEARS OLD. ONE HAPPENED IN DECEMBER OF 2013. THAT'S WHEN, UH, THE PAYROLL CLERK HAD BEEN MOVED TO MY APARTMENT AND DID IT ON THE SOFTWARE. AND THAT LETTER I NEVER SAW, ALTHOUGH IT WAS ADDRESSED TO ME FROM THE IRS AND THERE WAS A LETTER WRITTEN ASKED FOR IT TO BE WAIVED EXTRA 9 26 AND IT WAS, BUT IT WASN'T ON PAYROLL, IT WAS ON A MISTAKE. SO IT REALLY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ACTUAL PAYROLL. IT WAS A REPORT THAT HAD BEEN FILED INCORRECTLY. I CAN STILL WRITE A LETTER, BETTER SEND IT CHECK, I'LL SEND THE CHECK AND I MEAN IF THEY DECIDE IT, THEY'LL REFUND OUR MONEY, BUT I JUST HATE FOR PENALTY AND INTEREST. NOTICE JAIL. WHAT PENALTY AND INTEREST, WHAT DO THEY CHARGES? UH, THERE'S A DIFFERENT RATE ON THERE. IT'S DIFFERENT RATES THAT THEY CHARGE. IT DEPENDS ON HOW THEY'RE DOING IT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL, THEY'LL EVEN CONSIDER MINE. IT SAYS YOU CAN HAVE CPA REPRESENT YOU IF YOU WANTED TO GO FIGHT IT IN COURT COUNTY AUDITOR, THAT OUGHT BE AS GOOD AS. SO I'M GONNA, I'M WRITE A LETTER. I'M WRITE I'LL IF Y'ALL APPROVE THAT HAVE WELL THAT'S WHAT I WONDER. WE OUGHT TRY TO USE WAY AHEAD. SEND THEM THE MONEY. WE OUGHT EXHAUST IF YOU DON'T PLAN THE PENALTIES. OH YEAH. 38,000, NOT ZERO. I THINK THE GOES UP CONSIDERED SEPTEMBER. THAT'S VERY POSSIBLE. WITH, WITH THOSE TWO ADDED THE 91,000 FROM THE BANK COURT AND THE IRS, THE BILLS ARE GONNA BE 1,000,060 8,000 5 63 WHERE THEY HAD BEEN 9 38. SO
Y'ALL NEED TO LOOK AT THESE REGISTERS. HAS THE EMPLOYEE BEEN INSTRUCTED NOT TO DO THAT AGAIN? UH, THE PERSON THAT GETS THE MAIL DOWN AT THE SOUTH CAMPUS HAS BEEN TOLD INCOMING FROM IS IS LAID ON MY DESK BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO STAY ON TOP OF. MAKE AN ERROR. THERE'S AGLIT SOFTWARE OR SOMETHING SO THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE TO PAY THAT. ANYBODY ELSE WANTED TO SEE THIS? IS THERE DOCUMENTATION AS TO WHO RESPONSIBLE? WHAT? WHAT YOU SAYING SIR? IS THERE DOCUMENTATION SAYING WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT HAPPENING HAPPEN AGAIN THIS TIME I'M GUESSING NOTHING GONNA HAPPEN. OKAY. THE PROCESS REPERCUSSIONS THE PROCESS WITH THE NEW PAYROLL, THE WAY WE DO IT NOW, HR DOES ALL THE PAYROLL MAINTENANCE, ANY CHANGES, ANY NEW EMPLOYEES NEW, ANY ADDITIONS AND DELETIONS, WE ACTUALLY PROCESS THE CHECKS OFF THE TIME TEACHING SYSTEM IS IMPORTED INTO TW. WE STAMP THE CHECKS, SHE BRINGS ME THE REGISTER AND THE REPORTS AND I VERIFY THAT'S THE AMOUNTS THAT, UH, IS SUPPOSED TO BE PAID OUT OF THE FUNDS. THEN THOSE CHECKS ARE TAKEN TO THE COUNTY TREASURER AND STAFF AND THE PERSON THAT DOES THE DISBURSEMENT ACTUALLY PAYS THE PAYROLL TAX THAT WITHHOLD THEM. WE DON'T, DEB USED TO DO IT WHEN SHE WORKED IN THE COUNTY TREASURERS BECAUSE THAT WAS HER JOB TO DO THAT. BUT NOW UM, OTHER PEOPLE DO THAT ONE SHEET. YES. SO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'VE GOT EVERYBODY PROGRAMMED IF SOMETHING COMES TO MY RRS TOO ON MY SIDE, YES SIR. OKAY. DO, YES SIR. UNDER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES? MM-HMM . THE SPY GLASS GROUP? YES SIR. FOR 27,000. WHAT IS THAT? THAT'S THEIR FIRST HALF OF PAYMENT OF THE PHONE AUDIT. YOU CAN'T IT THOUGH BE WE'RE PAYING 54,000. WHERE DID THE I KNOW WE SIGNED A CONTRACT. WERE THEY SAVED MONEY ON WAS TAKEN AWAY. NINE ONE CALL ID MM-HMM . NOBODY ASKED AND SAID DO YOU WANT CALL ID YOU DON'T WANT CALL ID, I THOUGHT THE IT DEPARTMENT CONTACTED EVERYBODY BECAUSE I KNOW THEY DID COMMISSIONER AND IT BACK. I'D LIKE TO YOU LOOK AT THEIR BILL YOU CONTRACT FOR, THAT'S JUST THE INVOICE THAT THEY SEND DETAILING WHICH PHONES ARE DISCONNECTED AND WHERE THE SAVINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE SEEING ARE COMING FROM. BEFORE THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE BILL IS 54,000. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SAVE THE A MONTH. I THINK IT WAS. IS IT MORE TO THIS? YEAH, THERE'S MORE. THERE'S MORE TO IT IN GEORGE IS THE ONE THAT'S BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH, BECAUSE I TOLD HIM I PAY THE BILL UNTIL HE SAID HE WAS SATISFIED THAT WE HAD THOSE PULLED ON THE REPORT. UH, IN OR VISION IN GEORGE SAID HE DIDN'T SEE THOSE SAVINGS. SO HE WENT BACK TO THE BOARD, AGREED ON THEY DID SOME ADDITIONAL WORK. NO, THIS IS JUST HALF FROM MONEY. YES. YES SIR. PAYING HALF, UH, THAT WHAT THEY AGREED UPON, THAT'S ALL WE OWE. IT'S NOT THE 54,000 OWE 54, BUT THEY AGREED TO BREAK TWO PAYMENTS THIS YEAR. HOW
WE JUST HAD THIS DONE, WE HAD THE SAME STUDY DONE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO. REMEMBER THAT? MY QUESTION IS WHY DID OUR LAST GUY, IS THIS A BRAND NEW PROGRAM? THEY COME UP WITH THE D-R-I-E-I-R CONTRACT NOT UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, THAT HAD NOT BEEN LOOKED AT IN WHAT, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS? MM-HMM . IS WHAT, UH, GEORGE TOLD ME AND I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT. SO I SENT THE GENTLEMAN TO GEORGE SINCE GEORGE IS OVER THAT ON THE PHONE LINES AND CELL AND EVERYTHING AND THEY WENT BACK AND FORTH AND AGREED THAT THEY WERE GONNA GO THROUGH AND SEE BECAUSE THE PHONE COMPANIES WERE REAL BAD ABOUT ADDING STUFF TO YOU. IT BECAUSE YOU DUNNO, WE DID NOT HAVE TO PAY SEVERAL, SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS. YEAH, LIKE 30, 34,000 BILL IS GOING FROM ONE CONTRACT TO ANOTHER CONTRACT. MY QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT DID IS THIS? UNLESS THIS BRAND NEW THING THEY COME UP WITH, WHY THAT THAT WE 50 GRAND. WHY WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO HIRE PEOPLE, WATCH . CAN GEORGE, I MEAN HE'S IT, HE SAYS THAT'S THE AUDITOR'S JOB AND I TOLD HIM NO IT'S NOT. NO, IT THAT'S JUST AN ANALYSIS THAT I MAYBE A MONTH AGO ON THE SETTING THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SENDING LAST THREE TO FOUR MONTHS MY CELL PHONE BILL AT HOME. YOU HAVE TO WATCH MY CALL. HAVE A CLUE WHAT IT, THEY KEPT SENDING ME A MESSAGE BECAUSE I HAVE FIVE PEOPLE ON MY PHONE THAT MY DATA PLAN WAS GOING OVER. WE KEPT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT BECAUSE WE FAMILY. SO JIM, NOT ONE, HE GOT ONE THE MESSAGES, HE AND I JUST BECAUSE HE HAD THIS LING IS REALLY, REALLY BAD. THIS, UH, AVERAGE MONTH SALES ONLY 2359 FROM AT&T AND ONLY 60, WE SPENT 50,000 THAT NO, THERE'S ANOTHER PART OF IT THAT YOU'RE STILL WORKING ON. I HOPE SO. OTHERWISE WE'D GOOD QUITE UNDERSTAND. IT'S UP LAST BILL FOR $50,000. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE, SHOULD WE HAVE TO PAY A COMPANY TO WATCH OUR PHONE BILLS? WE SIGNED A CONTRACT. YOU DID. YOU SIGNED THEY GET PAID ON THE SAVINGS, BUT THEY SAVE, THEY GET THE, THEY THEIR CONTRACT SAYS THEY GET THE FIRST YEAR SAVINGS. SO IF WE DID NOTHING, WE'VE PAID THAT. BUT WE A YEAR THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS, THREE, FOUR YEARS ANSWER NO, YOU COULDN'T ANSWER. BUT I PROBABLY, BECAUSE SOMEBODY BEING PULLED IN MANY, MANY DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS TAKING CARE OF SO MUCH, THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO ACTUALLY DO THAT PART AND PAY ATTENTION TO IT. NOT MEANING TO, IT JUST HAPPENS. I MEAN THAT'S ONE THING YOU GOTTA REALIZE. THAT'S ONE THING I PAY. I'M GONNA PAY YOUR PHONE BILLS, I'M GONNA PAY YOUR ELECTRIC BILLS AND YOUR GAS BILLS AND YOUR WATER BILLS. Y'ALL, YOU KNOW NOT TO GET DISCONNECTED OR ADDED ON THAT SHEET. I THINK IT'S BILL, THERE IS A BILL HERE NINE DATED 11 24 13.
IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR OUR, NO, IT'S NOTUNCOMMON ONED OR SOMETHING. WE JUST SAW THAT WE START ON NEW OCTOBER SOMETHING EPTEMBER. IS THAT YEAH, THAT'S, YOU RECEIVE THE SERVICE OF THE PRODUCT. IT'S GONNA GO IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET THIS YEAR DOES DEPENDS ON THE SERVICE DAY. SHOULD YES. AND JUST BECAUSE WE TURNED IT IN OCTOBER ONE, THE DATE INVOICE, WHAT TRIGGERS THE ONE'S DUE? YES. SOMETIMES IT STILL DEPENDS ON THE, THE SERVICE DATE BECAUSE WE ONE THAT SAYS OCTOBER ONE, BUT IT'S FOR THE 9TH OF SEPTEMBER. YOU REMEMBER THE JACK AND POS COULDN'T COVER THE MONEY. Y'ALL HAD LET THE SO HAVE TO LIKE REPAIR THE POD AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. AND BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T RECEIVE THE SERVICE UNTIL LIKE 120 DAYS AFTER THE CLOSE, THE AUDITORS MADE ME PUT IT IN THE NEW, THIS CURRENT YEAR BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T, LEMME PUT IT IN THE LAST YEARS UNDER A CHARITY'S. UM, SCOTT SMITH GOT PAID 50. THAT WAS FOR A UM, A DEPOSITION STATEMENT OF FACTS OR SOMETHING. I REMEMBER LIKE A NUMBER COMPARED TO MRS. UH, DON DONNA HILL AND UH, OUTTA THE DISTRICT COURT. WHEN SHE HAS TO DO THOSE COURT, DO WE HAVE TO PAY FOR ANY OF THAT? WE HAVE TO PAY FOR IT INITIALLY AND THEN WE'LL SUBMIT A, UH, INVOICE TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. YOU SHOULD BE REIMBURSED ALL THAT BACK. WHAT WOULD IT CAME IN KE COUNTY COURT OF LAW, DIDN'T IT? YEAH. AND SHOULD SAY VERSUS I THINK IT'S A CASE AS FAR AS ALL THE CASE INFORMATION. WE DON'T GET THAT FOR THE COURT REPORTING. WHEN THE JUDGE ASSIGNED ON JUDGE, THIS IS WHAT YOU PLAN, SAY WHAT COURT IS. COUNTY COURT OF LAW CAME NO COUNTY COURT OF LAW. COUNTY COURT JUDGE JUDGE JONES. I'M GONNA BE READING THE PROJECT PROGRAM. PROJECT SOMETHING TRIAL. YES. UM, SHE ORDERED SOME, UM, RECORDING C DV D CD THINGS AND THE MURDER GRANT WOULDN'T PAY FOR IT. SO SHE PAID FOR IT ON HER BUDGET. SO IT BEEN PAID FOR, FOR THE, WE THOUGHT THAT THE, THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE WOULD APPROVE IT AND YOU WOULDN'T SO SHE PAID FOR IT WAS FOR THE PROSECUTION? YES. OKAY. HOW MUCH WAS THE SEVEN AND 61? YEAH, WE'VE NOTICED THE LAST TIMES SENT THINGS DOWN TO WHY, WHY SHE JUST DECIDED IN PAY. IS THIS EQUIPMENT DONE? IS THIS WHAT IT'S CD FOR DD YES.
IT'S SOME THE PARTIES SHE WON'T USE IT. NO, NO, SHE'S ALREADY GIVEN IT TO THEM. TO YOU. SHE HAS PAID FOR IT ON HER BUDGET. WHY WOULDN'T, OKAY. THAT'S WHAT WE, WELL SHE'LL DO THAT. LIKE SHE GOT A THOUSAND DOLLARS DONATION, VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT STUFF. AND WHEN SHE BOUGHT THE STUFF THAT WAS LIKE THOUSAND 30, 7,039 AND SHE'LL PAY 39 OUTTA HER BUDGET JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS THE SAME STUFF. SHE'S PRETTY GOOD. STUFF LIKE THAT. THE OTHER THING, WHAT'S HAPPENING, I THINK DOWN GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, THE STAFF THAT ARE THERE. I THINK WHAT I DID A LOT. TURNOVER. YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'VE YOU 65. MM-HMM. AND THAT, I GUESS THAT WAS THE HOME FOR, IS THAT FOR THE ENTIRE TIME YOU'VE BEEN THERE, HOW WE THINK. SO I, I'M CURIOUS WHAT THE PER DAY WELL, YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN IF THEY'RE PHYSICALLY SOMEBODY SITTING WITH THEIR EYES ON I SURE. 27 DAYS FOR 27 DAYS. 27 DAYS, PUT THEM AND 300 HOURS. HERE'S, HERE'S THE STORY. WORKING ON THE, UH, THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE WILL PAY FOR THAT, BUT THEY WON'T PAY FOR OVERTIME. SO WHAT THEY TOLD DO IS GO BACK ON BASIS. NO YOU DON'T. . 26 HOUR. 26 AN HOUR. IS THERE ANY WAY YOU COULD NOT DO THAT? IS THAT A CONSTABLE OVER THERE? A HUNT COUNTY CONSTABLE THAT KILLED HIS WIFE OR SOMETHING AND TRANSFERRED. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE, YEAH, IT WAS A ONE ONE. YOUR GUYS, YOU GOT ONE STILL MARKETING THE 11,000. I THINK THAT WAS, THAT'S PROBATION. THAT STATEMENT. THAT'S NOT OUR OH, OKAY. THEY'RE MY KW. REMEMBER IT NOW. I NEVER KNOW WHAT STATEMENT. WELL, IT'S SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO KEEP UP WITH, SO DON'T WORRY ABOUT ASKING YOU QUESTIONS. YOU, YOU ASKED HIM, WAS THAT YOUR COFFEE OR NO? OKAY. HAVE WASH. YEAH. ONE THEM IN MY STACK, HE TAKES THEM HOME. I'M SELLING THIS PAPER BY THE GROUND RECYCLING. I HAD MINE HIGHLIGHTED. SO WE SHOULD HAVE OUR, OUR NICE BUDGET BOOKS BACK FROM PRINTERS. YEAH, I GOT STACK
RENDITIONS OF IT. RECYCLING. WELL, MAYBE NEXT YEAR YOU ALREADY BE BROKE IN. IT WON'T BE SO BAD. I DUNNO IF I'LL EVER GET USED TO THAT. . I DON'T THINK WE CAN BREAK YOU, MAN. NO, YOU GONNA HAVE TO BETTER, HEY, COFFEE. I THINK THEN YOU DIDN'T HAVE THIS ONE OVER HERE. TRYING TO PROVE COULD WAS ALREADY. THAT HELPS WHEN EVERYBODY WOULD SAY ONE SITTING. CAN'T FIND. THAT'S A, WELL, I DON'T HAVE THE SHEET SIGN. WHO DOESN'T SIGN IT? I THINK Y'ALL SIGNED IT ALL. YEAH, Y'ALL SIGNED IT. ALL RIGHT HERE. REIGN IT. YES SIR. YES. ALRIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING TO PAY THE BILLS. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. COMMISSIONER ROSA MOTION. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY I, AYE THOSE ONE THING BEFORE WE ADJOURN, UH, THE NEXT MEETING OF COURT'S, THREE WEEKS. IT'S NOT UNTIL OCTOBER THE 13TH OR I HAVE TALKED WITH PROZAC FROM, UH, THE ENGINEERING FIRM AND YEAH. KYLE FINLEY ABOUT HAVING A MEETING ON OCTOBER THE SIXTH. IS EVERYBODY AVAILABLE? WE'VE GOT SOME ISSUES KNOW PENDING ON THAT CHECKLIST WE WANTED TO DO AND THEN WE STILL GOT THE OTHER ISSUE ON CONT OR WHATEVER IT WAS. I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. WHAT DAY IS THAT ON NINTH MONDAY. OKAY. MONDAY, OCTOBER THE SIXTH. I THOUGHT WE'D START AT NINE O'CLOCK IF THAT'S OKAY. AND UH, SO IF WE HAVE SOME OTHER ITEMS WE CAN HAVE YEAH, COULD BE A REGULAR, IT'D BE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSION WITH THEM ABOUT, BUT I'D ALRIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MR. MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION. MR. YOUR FAVOR A THANK YOU VERY MUCH.