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[0:04] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for making paper copies, so much easier.
[0:09] Sure. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
[0:15] This is just exactly what the slide is going to be.
[0:20] Thank you. Thank you for coming this morning. Now I'm afraid of warning.
[0:23] with stuff especially in the weather.
[0:25] I'm so nice out there.
[0:27] Thank you.
[0:28] Maybe just a quick housekeeping item.
[0:31] We have scheduled a tour with WCAG integrated.
[0:37] Next Thursday before Council meeting at 4 p.m.
[0:42] Are you still interested in doing that?
[0:44] Or we can postpone it.
[0:47] We can kick it down the road.
[0:49] Where is the WCAG?
[0:50] It's still landfill.
[0:53] Okay.
[0:55] Is that something we still want to do?
[0:58] Where do you want to do it?
[0:59] It's something that they collect from their suggested and at the time change so that's
[1:04] a good idea and I think it's a good idea.
[1:06] But tying lies, I don't know if it works for it.
[1:09] It's kind of hard on the council base.
[1:10] We reschedule it from another day.
[1:12] I would say.
[1:12] It's kind of hard on the council base.
[1:15] We reschedule it from another day.
[1:16] We reschedule.
[1:17] And then we thought, you know, depending on what happens today,
[1:20] because you've been used that time for.
[1:22] Or excessive budget stuff.
[1:24] So we're going to cancel that.
[1:27] We're going to remind you to call it.
[1:33] Well, here's the best time of the year.
[1:37] Yeah.
[1:39] The first schedule, we know we're maybe a few weeks behind the schedule.
[1:43] But we think there's still plenty of time to go through a budget.
[1:48] address all of your concerns and all of your issues.
[1:53] As I go into this budget, we know that just by the nature of governmental budgeting
[1:58] it's complex, it's not as easy as just a simple budget because there are always
[2:05] so many funds involved.
[2:08] You have a fund for a different purpose.
[2:11] There's restrictive revenues, what you can spend money on.
[2:15] There are lots of complaints that our hope is to simplify it best we can today, we never
[2:24] still have numbers, but we hope to have this kind of an overview discussion today.
[2:32] We've planned a follow-up meeting to dive a little deeper with the department, and if you
[2:37] want to do that, we'll kind of maybe ask at the end of the meeting if that's our next step.
[2:42] next step might be. Our objective always with the budget is to give you the best information you
[2:51] can give you. And, you know, it's the city council's budget, you set policy, and we try to
[2:58] create a budget around the direction you would like the city to go. So, please don't think it. It's
[3:04] our budget and our feelings are going to be heard if you don't, you know, except what we're doing,
[3:08] because if you're a budget, we just want to give you the best information available,
[3:12] not only for this year, but as we start thinking about the future years as well, you know what, what's coming down the road.
[3:21] And we don't spend a little time this morning, kind of looking out, you know, three years, some projects that need to happen.
[3:30] And just to see no of it there coming.
[3:34] After we finish today, we want to ask you what the next step is, so we want to take your
[3:41] feedback in your comments, just as a preliminary thing, we've done our best to work with
[3:48] the Department Head closely, over the last six weeks, probably, we think we've got a pretty
[3:54] feel for their needs,
[3:59] but obviously we don't want to speak for them because they're the experts
[4:04] but want to least convey what we're hearing. And in our purposes to make the best use of city
[4:12] resources to accomplish what we need to. Okay, we have to start with discussion, we have a short
[4:21] a dream on budgeting, governmental budgeting, so here we go,
[4:35] there's a lot of pocketable.
[4:36] Right?
[5:27] I can see that.
[7:03] That's how we feel about it.
[7:10] I don't know how you're familiar with our emissions statement.
[7:14] to turn hands to present a future with quality and good life in KZL, to the delivery of effective
[7:21] efficient and equitable services. That's something we talk about as staff, and we take it
[7:29] to heart.
[7:30] We want to deliver the most effective and efficient services and build the quality of community.
[7:38] If you think about community in case of women in the next time, we're going to have to think.
[7:47] That's a lot of people saying when I talk about community, I think that's what makes the case also so great.
[7:54] But as we look at the budget, we want to focus on that sense of community and there are
[8:01] three areas that we want to talk about, operations, managed use to the assets and resources
[8:07] for cost effective and efficient delivery of services, maintain the expected level of service,
[8:15] employees develop and maintain competent qualified dedicated and well-trained employees who are
[8:24] have the investment and city infrastructure providing the highest level of service delivery
[8:29] and staying ahead of the main obstacle.
[8:32] I think the question is, what does that really look like?
[8:37] Maybe just an example of this past week.
[8:42] On Tuesday night we had a fire on a fireball.
[8:47] It was about 430 flight of cloud growth.
[8:50] And we're going to happen.
[8:52] And within 30 minutes, we had 10 guys from the towering part of a global list.
[9:00] And we had some, especially equipment there.
[9:06] Working on high voltage lines, working power lines up and taking the power full down.
[9:11] And to me, that's what that's all about.
[9:17] And then Wednesday, I went to my grandson in baseball game and I went there to
[9:23] deworms and park and I bet there were thousands of kids and parents and grandparents there
[9:29] in the fields were nice, they were marked, they were people there, you know, that's what we're all
[9:35] about.
[9:36] Later that night I went up on the hill and talked to the guy there monitoring the flood situation
[9:43] And they're up there taking care of things.
[9:49] And I think for us, that's the most exciting part of being part of the city government.
[9:54] We've here involved in so many different things.
[9:57] And you're providing something of real value to a city.
[10:03] And I think all employees take that seriously.
[10:08] When it comes to capital investment infrastructure, we're going to talk about maintaining
[10:18] routine maintenance schedules, we're going to talk about computers and talk about vehicles.
[10:22] We're talking about parking improvements.
[10:25] There's a need to maintain those that capital infrastructure.
[10:30] So with that kind of as an overview, we're going to maybe go on reverse order.
[10:34] We want to talk about capital investment and infrastructure and get more and more of a higher level
[10:42] Work and then we want to talk about employees and then talk about
[10:47] some reason
[10:49] and we think we can
[10:52] be out here by name. So
[10:54] So I said, let's are
[10:55] So with that I'm gonna
[10:59] Let me say one thing first
[11:00] But I'm going to let Lee like talk about capital investment, but none of this could have been done with that Lee by. I appreciate, you know,
[11:10] for the last four weeks that huge effort for Lee by taking on this.
[11:16] I've been shifted some other responsibilities, so he's taking the lead on this and just to make it easy to do so many good things for this.
[11:27] So let's see if I can have a wiggle.
[11:29] We have a wiggle.
[11:30] We have a wiggle.
[11:32] So capital, I just wanted to find what we mean, the term capital.
[11:37] You hear that a lot, just in general.
[11:39] And for our purposes today, when we talk about capital,
[11:43] we're talking about the equipment, tangible projects,
[11:50] equipment that costs more than $4,000.
[11:52] We have to draw a threshold line in every pair and so there's a good amount, but as Dean mentioned, if we go back to this, really, there's these three main categories, there's operations, you know, the cost of this maintain maintenance, employees, the cost of paying employees, and then capital.
[12:15] So that outside of operations and paying employees, road projects, fine trucks, fine trailers,
[12:24] fine compressors, fire trucks, that's all candle.
[12:29] So that's the first section we're going to go through is anything defined by capital.
[12:34] Now there may be large purchases that are not capital.
[12:38] For example, we spend a lot of money on road maintenance, and that's just to maintain
[12:44] the row. That's more on the operations category, not so that's not capital, but we're going to
[12:49] put it in a new row, we'll put it in a new water line, that'll be part of our capital schedule.
[12:55] So any questions about what capital means? We've really tried to organize it and make it clear on
[13:02] what's coming down the pipe. So that's what we're going to go through is you'll see four years
[13:09] on the next few slides. Last year, the current year, so fiscal year 24, and then kind of what's ahead looking ahead the next two years.
[13:22] And not only back up real quick, I'm going to break capital into five categories, so there's buildings,
[13:30] self explanatory improvements.
[13:34] That's improvements are kind of like parks, playgrounds, that sort of thing.
[13:39] Infrastructure, you can think of that as water lines, roads, power lines, equipment, that'll be trailers, air compressors, that kind of thing, and that'd be a cool.
[13:54] Let's start with buildings.
[13:56] So this is an overview of the whole city, all funds, the general fund portion is kind of a
[14:02] top to sections. This is all the building capital asset purchases that we're budgeting
[14:09] and what's kind of coming down the pipe. The items in red, we did not include in our budget
[14:17] In the funds summaries, but we have them on here is talking points
[14:24] Just to be clear what what numbers are
[14:27] We're included so the red are not included in the final
[14:30] Yeah, when we are numbers we need to consider because they're things that when we look at the funds summaries that the end those amounts are not included
[14:38] So when he taken a minute, I mean, yeah, just take what we can look at some of these
[14:47] the fire station. There's been discussing over several years about when is the right timing
[15:00] I think we believe, and I think Jared G. Harris and Wood agree,
[15:05] it's probably not this kind of year.
[15:08] When we look at the service calls, there are about 20% of all service calls are for that area.
[15:16] So maybe this is something that could be delayed or should be done.
[15:21] Not only because of the capital cost, but the operational cost that comes with it.
[15:27] So, you know, you know, you have the ability, you have to step ahead.
[15:33] So, I think that is something that is coming, but in our view probably not as urgent as we might have thought a year ago or two years ago.
[15:46] We've worked it on the location, there's that still influence.
[15:51] I think that's probably the important thing above all, is to get the right location.
[16:04] And if we didn't already have a location, we would want to spend money sooner rather than later to get the spot in your response.
[16:11] But I think the location works well.
[16:15] There's a discussion about the Operations Center,
[16:18] power of public work facility.
[16:20] We have an assessment done.
[16:24] And this was everything.
[16:25] I mean, this was the site improvement.
[16:28] So we had a justing operation center.
[16:30] It was a new facility.
[16:32] And just became out of our reach at $36 million.
[16:38] But something needs to be done there at some point.
[16:42] and maybe what we do is we just build up just a power facility and make do in the
[16:50] operation center with some input nuts. So something that's coming down the road.
[16:59] Operation operation center replace the roof. I know you've been down there and we've got
[17:04] buckets everywhere catching the leeks. So if we put in nothing at all we have to do something there
[17:11] to repair that question.
[17:14] So 36 million, if we were to build a, we were to add, you know, facility, all together
[17:24] that would that be significant or less, if we just, if we scaled it down, well, just building
[17:31] a brand new facility all together on the same property, well, that's what that is, it's a
[17:35] But I'm interested in the class three, the 36.
[17:38] The class three have the existing facility.
[17:41] Okay, class side input, much.
[17:43] I thought that was just so consistent.
[17:46] What is the first column?
[17:48] What is that?
[17:48] It's a good, that's correct.
[17:50] That's correct.
[17:50] It's quite interesting, and it's just,
[17:52] so it's really, it doesn't need to be there.
[17:54] And cross that out of it.
[17:55] Yes, it's a, it's a, it's a simple mistake.
[17:58] That's all.
[17:58] Just to kind of give you an idea,
[18:00] what projects we budget last year,
[18:02] or what we're trying to finish between now and sharing.
[18:05] You know, the doors are issue, right?
[18:08] Right, I mean, they've been completely happy.
[18:10] Okay, so they've been going to do this.
[18:11] You're right, the important column is the second one.
[18:13] That's what's in the upcoming budget, the number
[18:16] they included in the budget.
[18:18] So you talked 36 million because I've
[18:20] you had to make number 36.
[18:23] Yeah, we've talked in the same.
[18:25] I thought I thought 10 million is what I thought.
[18:28] Oh, I'm sorry if I thought 3 million in my mind.
[18:32] I thought from last year.
[18:35] So I think if you built just a power facility, or if you'd be 12 to 14, you'd be right there.
[18:43] This is a disnumbered view side of everything, and this is our listing.
[18:47] The only thing that I just had as far as what's this.
[18:50] Yes, the 19th.
[18:51] It's a 36 million.
[18:53] I'm just seeing it right now, like compared to even the fire station.
[18:58] It's not reachable.
[18:59] I mean, that was a thing for that if we were to do everything, it's not reachable.
[19:08] So, why is it so much more than to say the fire station, like, did it just have?
[19:11] Because it was a duplicity plus re-having.
[19:14] Because it's just a facility.
[19:16] It's just a facility on the left.
[19:18] It's just a facility on the left.
[19:22] It's walking through the existing facility.
[19:25] Actually thought the bones were pretty.
[19:28] So I think in a much way to work putting money into the roof and how I think as a city would be more
[19:35] productive to improve the existing site versus in a huge, there is a six-fifteen dollar.
[19:44] Yeah, for us.
[19:45] And our entire panel of operations center in place the roof is, we don't think there's going to be that much.
[19:53] And we would use existing fund balance within the capital projects fund.
[19:58] So, that is not really going to affect
[20:02] the operation done to do it, yeah, it's not going to affect
[20:05] operation going forward to just kind of keep that in mind.
[20:10] You think you need a power to put out a source of a task?
[20:14] No, you can't have a button for that.
[20:17] The junior hygiene, that is something that
[20:21] Cole is working closely with the school district.
[20:24] When they remodel the casual junior high,
[20:27] is the religion museum and we pay a portion of that cost and we can use it.
[20:32] And that is something that we need to look for because the biggest we really have in recreation is the amazing space.
[20:43] So let's come and down the park.
[20:46] Okay, you asked the question about using power monies, that way.
[20:50] Yeah, for can we use that for the earth?
[20:52] Since they're housing there, I had not exclusively, but I don't know.
[20:55] I think we could, okay, so right now we just have it all in the capital projects fund, but I'm sure we could just by allocating a portion to the power fund.
[21:03] I mean, whatever you guys think, that's it.
[21:04] No, we shouldn't be kidding.
[21:05] We've got a business use, 3% of that uses, I already made it.
[21:10] 3% of what we thought should be power.
[21:13] And likewise, we've got sort of a fund for.
[21:17] It's just how it bucked a money.
[21:19] But we could just by doing that.
[21:20] And then I think this is one of the way that you want to, these are commitment already.
[21:29] That's our existing get service.
[21:31] That's our bill.
[21:31] Are there any lower payments?
[21:33] There's manual for those.
[21:34] For the police station, I'm in City Hall.
[21:36] The police station runs off in 231.
[21:41] And City Hall runs off in 234.
[21:46] So we're down the road, but maybe we're to the fire station, wait until 2003 you'd want.
[21:55] And that's a long way down, but those are the kind of things we want to think about.
[22:00] But I give the impression, for me, that she, for instance, says, we're okay to push at least a year or two.
[22:06] I think so. I want to speak formally, but I think so.
[22:10] Okay, I think losing for heights as a put in personally, I feel like it's put in back in years.
[22:21] We had a conversation with your lights.
[22:26] So they said, this next fiscal year they're committed to farming too.
[22:30] And after that, they would seriously consider coming back.
[22:34] Oh, they're not as well.
[22:36] I don't know, probably.
[22:38] What do you mean?
[22:39] Why would they say that?
[22:41] Well, because it doesn't change after this being worked closer.
[22:46] And we do a fantastic job, and they had great service from Keyesville.
[22:51] And it just makes a lot of sense.
[22:53] And they're not committed beyond this next fiscal year.
[22:56] Yeah, the question is though.
[22:59] How much did they pay? I don't know. We haven't talked about it.
[23:01] They have to pay.
[23:02] They have to pay. They're sure.
[23:04] They're sure. But I think they recognize that.
[23:06] They know they got to get deal for them.
[23:07] We can provide better service. Yeah.
[23:10] Then pharmacum.
[23:11] Do you think geographically we can?
[23:12] I think that would be great if we could count them out.
[23:15] Okay. I'll put them again.
[23:16] Yes. This just makes more sense.
[23:18] We can share it with us so much.
[23:20] Great. And they understand that.
[23:22] So that's one of the time comes we can meet with their council on our council.
[23:25] because I feel like a lot of the heartburn and don't, and you can start it down, and do
[23:30] what I just think. I feel like a lot of the heartburn they have is they feel like they're not
[23:33] involved in the decisions we're making. And I just think if we can come together and meet with them
[23:40] more openly, be more likely to come to life as successful resolution.
[23:46] Yeah, so Mike is a two-year point, Mike, that's true. And if they come back, then that would be
[23:51] I hope you love this. Any questions on Bill Lake? What needs are there?
[23:56] So, what's a realist? I mean, I guess when you see 36 million you go whole crap.
[24:02] You know, but how big of a building? What's realistic, you know?
[24:06] That's 20,000 square feet, but then what it was?
[24:08] 10,000 square feet. Was it 10,000 square feet?
[24:10] You can't remember. We'd like this one. We'd like to know that the height of the,
[24:15] It was actually kind of the supply chain demand and this was when you're going to when you're going to
[24:22] Home Depot and buying a sheet of wood for $50 now they're back down to like $20 and
[24:29] So there could be a
[24:32] analysis that comes from let's say it's a block building let's say $25,000
[24:36] time to buy $500. This is $500 square foot. That's a lot of, that's a lot of, that's a
[24:44] 1,2,5. Yeah.
[24:48] You know, we're talking about just the power to leave. Yeah. Now I'm curious
[24:52] with the existing building. I think it needs to be renovated even the office space. I went to
[24:58] the kitchen and I have the handles are broken off. Yeah. So I think the whole thing probably
[25:05] It's a federation and then it knows that their bays are quite big enough and wondering if we could just keep the bays and then build on it, they just using the existing wall.
[25:18] Like things like that, we really kind of dive into like section by section, the pricing and that out and what that will look like as far as renovating, maybe adding on to the building here and there.
[25:30] So usually what you do when you have, you know, we do everything what they can't but usually
[25:35] what you do when you have a situation like that, you go out for a request for the proposal
[25:39] to accept several architectural firms who have done jobs with that line and they come in
[25:45] and they interview you to do a needs assessment and do what you need, then they go back through
[25:49] and they do like a preliminary thing and everybody reviews it and everybody sees it at that point
[25:54] and you kind of agree to it and at that point then you put out a request for the proposal
[25:59] for the design of a building.
[26:02] So before you get to that, you go through a hole inside to ask
[26:05] And I have about 36 million for that.
[26:08] Which are accomplished.
[26:09] Yeah, it's considered I get to basically throw,
[26:12] again, into the building.
[26:14] We've done a lot of we plan there.
[26:16] And it gets right down to actually building and facilities.
[26:18] We still have to do that.
[26:20] Right, right there.
[26:21] But one of the saying is we got for our T,
[26:24] we own all the stuff that those,
[26:26] because we pay those guys what $400 or $500,000 to $200,000 to $200,000.
[26:34] So we're asking if we have the information that they release some of the information, right?
[26:42] I mean, as I said, through some of that information, I guess, and it's ours, right?
[26:48] Even though they put it together, so we can use that as they are part of our piece of the post.
[26:54] Right, but what you can do is totally, totally different part of it, totally different part of it, totally different part of it.
[27:00] Because that's what we're going to do.
[27:03] The last two years, keep what you have 30 cents a million, and to me, it's just like, no, I'm just out of the question.
[27:09] But I just don't want to push off.
[27:14] We're renovating parts of the facility that makes it better.
[27:16] And the workers in, like, what's top priority?
[27:20] New day, okay, and so it doesn't it's hard of the discussion of Dean or anybody is you know, you look at you talk to the police station
[27:28] in the city hall
[27:29] What our debt requirements are you know what we're doing on a new basis
[27:34] What would we be able to fit you know, what additional because that almost gives you like the net top dollar. Yeah, what kind of payment would we be able to do
[27:45] without
[27:47] I need stress or you know
[27:49] I don't know the answer is it.
[27:52] I know you don't love this head.
[27:53] You have my, whatever selling land that's the city owns, but, right behind, right, we own
[28:00] that land that's right behind and we're not even using.
[28:03] The butts up against the garden, remember everything about the red in your tree?
[28:07] Just saying it like, why would you just keep it though and keep putting in revenue
[28:12] in for every year?
[28:14] We don't, we don't treat it, and that would be ready for it.
[28:17] That's right, it's like eventually you will need it. I guarantee eventually we have one type of revenue or maybe
[28:23] I guess
[28:27] If it's never going to give you
[28:31] Yeah, we're not going to give you
[28:34] Yeah, we're not going to give you
[28:36] I'm going to go.
[28:37] Yeah, I'm going to go.
[28:40] I'm going to go.
[28:41] I'm going to go.
[28:43] Sorry.
[28:44] No.
[28:45] I was just thinking.
[28:46] I can't get there.
[28:48] No.
[28:49] No.
[28:49] OK.
[28:50] Which one do I just speak one at a time?
[28:52] Yes.
[28:53] I can't get it.
[28:54] I did.
[28:55] I just had a quick question on the property behind.
[29:01] I assumed that was just a property where the power of their story
[29:05] be quite mad. Some curious who's paying that.
[29:09] 5,000.
[29:11] Well, there's a different shop area that no one's paying for that.
[29:15] But beyond that, there's an area that I'm not sure that landscaping
[29:21] because it's rising. Oh, so we all have a structure.
[29:25] Okay, I'm going to get to realize that.
[29:30] That's a lot of improvements. Next slide.
[29:35] So this should, should we be looking to break that, you know, here's, do you break that
[29:43] into different projects, you know, do you need, you know, as an empowered building, if
[29:49] that's necessary.
[29:49] I mean, how do you break it into different projects?
[29:51] Like, I think that we have much to finish today and overall we're taking good notes and
[29:57] then we can say we've got the sense from the camera.
[30:00] I'm sorry that we wanted us to take a closer look at what to do down the operation center, whether it be, just go to the central building for power or what.
[30:10] And then we'll do the department hands and come up with a plan.
[30:16] I don't think we're asking the council, do you know the plan?
[30:19] Yeah, I think you give us a report on what you'd like to have and we'll develop a plan.
[30:24] I have two things to say, I agree with that approach, and I would like to start moving
[30:29] to start immediately to see what we can start improving, and then also I would be inclined
[30:37] right off the bat to say no to another existing stand-alone building for power, because I think
[30:45] there's resources that are kind of lost that can be shared to some degree, maybe, and so I just
[30:50] We're closely at that, like the cost benefit of being a stand-alone versus sharing
[30:59] some walls and some resources, and there's where it was such a big property to attach.
[31:08] Can the advantage of if you only have it be a power building, as you could theoretically
[31:11] just use our fund to build that building, and have the power fund get even if it's not
[31:18] I'm coming total cash out of pocket that they're the ones responsible for making the payment on that.
[31:24] When you do that, you will issue bonds, revenue bonds, scaring tape on your electric utility to pay for that bill.
[31:33] Not thinking like that too.
[31:35] Kitchen.
[31:36] Again, when you're saying the ones you start combining the two buildings,
[31:40] I mean, maybe yeah, you can get a percent of that losses,
[31:43] but what you're going to do with it, then all of a sudden,
[31:45] Yeah, based off of, like, the proper, and then we would be using other
[31:51] to build it, how much percentage of that to be responsible.
[31:54] That's going to be, I meant, we've got, okay, improvements.
[32:01] As we've mentioned, these are being a heart-type improvement.
[32:08] We're working with column in 24.
[32:11] That was already committed, there was a P.O. signed on that, that's a station of learning system.
[32:19] So that was already committed in 24.
[32:22] There's a 14 minutes and we've talked about capital replacing the heating and air conditioning system.
[32:28] Flip the operation center on the right button.
[32:32] And as you go down 24, we look at routine playground replacement.
[32:39] And I have a total of 12 cross in playgrounds, and anything in blue is funded through
[32:47] in back fees.
[32:50] So.
[32:50] And then I have a total of just 7 playgrounds.
[32:53] One side of it.
[32:55] And I think that's what where is that?
[32:58] Oh, so pay for it.
[32:59] Good 24.
[33:01] Okay.
[33:02] So it's in, but it's being paid for later.
[33:06] No.
[33:06] It's not the end of the replacement.
[33:08] My understanding is replacement.
[33:10] Getting for 24.
[33:11] Maybe just replace it.
[33:12] Maybe coax.
[33:15] It's a brand new one.
[33:18] It's a brand new one.
[33:18] It's a brand new one.
[33:19] Is that the one across from the cemetery?
[33:22] Yeah, yeah.
[33:23] Because my wife just went there.
[33:24] Sidel went with another one.
[33:26] And she said it's...
[33:29] Wish she had a lot of issues with the rooms.
[33:32] Oh really?
[33:33] Yeah.
[33:33] It's just small kids, I guess small.
[33:36] Oh, yeah, they're just small.
[33:38] They're very young.
[33:39] But maybe they're all chosen.
[33:41] Yeah, that's just called a question.
[33:43] That's how cold they will do it.
[33:44] And maybe maybe there was a miscommunication there.
[33:46] Maybe it's not just quail, but we could clarify with cold.
[33:51] Yeah, maybe there are more improvements that are going to be done.
[33:55] Yeah.
[33:56] Okay.
[33:57] I think they got him in red.
[33:59] Trevor spills.
[34:00] Trevor spills.
[34:17] We'll take our responsibility for that area and the agreement stage within three years, the day of this agreement, a passing part shall be,
[34:34] established, sitting with developing open space within five years in the
[34:39] beta of the agreement, it will challenge, include amenities such as
[34:43] towns, pick of all course, cross-claw, course, grasp, ponds,
[34:46] billions, walking trails.
[34:50] Where are we in terms of time-wide?
[34:53] Is it this way or time-barking?
[34:54] You need to do something if we just progress there.
[34:58] What is, I'm sorry, what are we talking about?
[35:05] I think we did some analysis of what they would cost to do all the amenities that they would like, and it was closer to 3.8 million.
[35:14] Do you have a picture of the
[35:19] drawing that I don't want to paint?
[35:23] So this is a good approval for yes.
[35:25] I think it has two people on board to think it's got.
[35:29] So like if this is 200 north going right here, right, and then you've got the church right here.
[35:40] So it's got like a pickle walk forward right here.
[35:44] One of the things back here that they put in is a community garden.
[35:49] Oh yeah, that's nice.
[35:50] It's like on the other one.
[35:51] And it's really cool.
[35:52] They've designed it so that there's even a spot for like people who have to come in real chairs or
[35:58] or electric chairs or whatever they have a section in the boxes or raised up.
[36:04] So this design is really the middle as a field.
[36:09] They have, additionally, a pump track.
[36:12] So because in the contract we said that we wouldn't do a part of the thing that they may assign
[36:17] was that we weren't going to do a skate park and a pump track.
[36:22] Isn't it different?
[36:22] It really stuck to skate park.
[36:24] Well, I think it's local.
[36:25] the pump truck, the marketing, the marketing, the marketing is over here,
[36:32] the bathrooms, and stuff like that, the billion.
[36:34] It's a beautiful design, the question is, how much do we really want to spend?
[36:40] I think coal would say, not 3.6.
[36:43] No, that dollar is not going to give it back.
[36:46] No.
[36:47] I wish we could.
[36:48] Why would we sell it in this first to money to do original?
[36:51] Okay.
[36:52] What is that property?
[36:56] I'm not sure if you can.
[36:59] Part of the issue is that, I mean part of the issue, I think that one of the things that we've
[37:06] made me years, years, years ago people made a mistake with 200 North, of by 15, is they didn't plan ahead on how they wanted people to see K's bill when they got off the freeway.
[37:18] And as a result, we have a very unattractive, like, you know, first, three blocks of case and then we've got scattered buildings, but you know, it seems like she would be perfect.
[37:30] To say we should have had it be like there should have been a requirement that you have certain amount of wood or roof ain't whatever, just like Park City.
[37:39] So I bring all that up because we're going to have the last day of this corridor and we're getting off and they're going to see, we're coming to, maybe, coming matter.
[37:51] And so, the park actually will be in nice, I mean, we've got to be thinking about the fact that that's going to be.
[37:59] That's what you're going to see.
[38:01] I have one thought to that.
[38:03] So you know that.
[38:04] Parked down in sick George.
[38:05] We talked to that.
[38:06] So the dinosaur there.
[38:06] There's a dinosaur part.
[38:08] He has a train.
[38:09] And it's you met.
[38:10] That question.
[38:11] The park was designed for not only just.
[38:17] For organs because of disabilities.
[38:20] And whatnot.
[38:21] And I heard the the action.
[38:23] The church actually put a bunch of money.
[38:25] I didn't know.
[38:26] It might have been some graph money.
[38:27] It's a beautiful part of people coming all over to experience it.
[38:33] I'm not aware of a part around Davis County that is for kids with disabilities,
[38:39] things like that. And so that could be something I would like to look into if we could
[38:46] talk to. If there isn't a part, talk to the judge, talk to different groups and organizations,
[38:52] just like the grass to see if we can't really develop that beautiful park.
[38:58] And we're going to think it goes to your point, John.
[39:00] And then the question again is, what level would funding give what
[39:04] of somebody, where you want to get the end end there?
[39:06] Yeah, and what level of funding do you want to, what level of funding kind of
[39:09] really, really, really, really?
[39:11] Yeah, and that's a lot of work.
[39:13] So I want to speak for Cole and you can clarify him,
[39:16] but I think he would probably say to maintain our current parks and to keep up
[39:22] to throw a 3.8 million at that is just not feasible right now.
[39:27] So that's kind of a lot of our stewards.
[39:29] Lower on his priority right now.
[39:31] He's more concerned with being the main element,
[39:35] being able to maintain our current stuff and staff.
[39:37] Can't make things like we did plan your part.
[39:40] Yeah, I think that's good.
[39:41] Yeah, so it will start with growth in a billion
[39:43] and then a year or two years down we could add stuff.
[39:46] Yeah, and I think the way I look at these
[39:48] minutes it's just start the element. It doesn't ever say it's a thingy state. Okay. So I think we get it.
[39:54] And that's why we want you to be a nice field for us to go. It's a little farther. It's looking into like when I brought up.
[40:02] When that would have a staff member start looking into or is a child.
[40:08] It's probably something that we start driving. I would think.
[40:12] Okay. Because the possibilities of the park, those are nice.
[40:14] So it's been said that they have a very nice interviewer.
[40:16] There's a lot of problems with the actual problem.
[40:19] But it also goes into what Dean Lee might have said.
[40:25] You do a face approach, let's start by whatever, I don't want to think that it was
[40:32] because let's start doing something that also gives time to study and see what brand
[40:38] where the money may be out there to help go to that face approach.
[40:41] And I think connected with the future funding is that that would be eligible for
[40:47] in that free expense, but there's always an opportunity cost where you spend it
[40:52] there and what's what's not going.
[40:55] It's where you get the case will get to an Asian coming.
[40:58] Is that better to spend in factories there rather than here?
[41:03] Those are kind of things we need to.
[41:06] We need to understand the feedback.
[41:10] Right.
[41:11] behind your park, we're paying for that with to a self-tacterial bond, a three-in-fact freeze,
[41:19] and that will drop off in 25.
[41:21] That's that 207.
[41:23] Okay, so that's the evaluation.
[41:25] That's the impact piece.
[41:26] So it's not like we're going to get that back into the budget.
[41:30] But we have the money.
[41:31] We have the money.
[41:31] We have the money.
[41:32] We have the money.
[41:35] We have the money.
[41:37] We have the money.
[41:41] projects fund. So not necessarily general fund money. That's in that separate bucket there.
[41:48] It's to keep that in mind.
[41:52] But as far as capital projects funding, are we produced by NAS?
[41:58] Yes, these are the parts. I guess, I want to define that. Because there are different
[42:12] there's a command, there are transcripts from the general fund. So the council,
[42:18] establishes whatever that matters. I mean, just to give you an idea, there's a
[42:22] fund balance and a capital project, so 3.3 million as of 2030, 2022. So, that's the
[42:31] bucket of money in there, and that's how you want to defend it. Can I get you a part
[42:36] by one thing? Yes.
[42:37] you said that the red is not included in the amount. Yeah, as I look, the red is included in the
[42:44] amount. It's included in the photo, but it's not in the fun. When we, at the end, when we show the
[42:50] fun summaries and like what's the gap close, they're not in the night. I just, I just didn't notice.
[43:07] It's totally
[43:08] I live in the cemetery, it's a canyon, it comes down, a lot of people slide up the canyon and do whatnot.
[43:16] I would be curious to what can this thing that would do something similar to what for heights did in a trail, a week trail,
[43:24] and I'm wondering is that something that I could probably, well, I was going to go talk to farmers and start working that, but is that something that I think, if it's even in the realm of pasta.
[43:35] So I can go up and talk to Cole about that.
[43:38] Okay, he's probably the best.
[43:40] Okay, he's on that.
[43:41] And before we move on, sorry, I also want to read,
[43:45] I talked to Cole about this before,
[43:47] but there's a reservoir across the street
[43:48] from my house.
[43:50] So I just put that on people's radar if that's something
[43:52] that we could try to do.
[43:53] And if you try to talk to Mayor Petro about it too,
[43:55] because they did something similar with one of their reservoirs.
[43:58] So I'm a fishery kind of thing.
[44:00] Yeah, yeah.
[44:01] We've talked about that later, it's a great idea.
[44:02] Yeah, so you would be awesome to be able to paddle board any right. Yeah, and a couple of these things I think I would like to do it for as well
[44:10] to see start determining what do we need to do? Do we need to put out our beer right one up?
[44:18] How much money should we allocate to?
[44:21] Yeah, I get what you hear. Take good notes because when all of a sudden we want to assimilate what you want us to kind of agree with.
[44:27] I don't know.
[44:29] Because I know.
[44:31] Hold this probably.
[44:32] I'm gonna make your calls.
[44:33] I'm gonna make that.
[44:35] I'm gonna make five years.
[44:37] We need to be taking notes.
[44:39] Why does it more is that?
[44:41] I don't know.
[44:42] I was just...
[44:44] But I think it's gonna five years five years five years.
[44:47] I think there's a lot of things in here.
[44:49] I was like that.
[44:49] I was like, start that much driving.
[44:51] I think you said that.
[44:53] It's a bit like that.
[44:54] Okay, maybe just once quick, I don't want to.
[44:56] We finish up a few months, we're looking at the very last area.
[45:00] Round 5, legislative tax, the council, a few minutes, two years ago, and Paris didn't involve with that.
[45:10] The funding approved for 24 includes the basketball courts, the Barnes Park.
[45:17] And then we all had wrestling parking and then finish up the parking law.
[45:24] And the important one was, was mostly, we had the remaining quarter from ramping the balance to a grant.
[45:33] Yeah, that's 340 is offset by money coming from the county this year.
[45:38] So that includes lighting up there, too.
[45:41] I think there's a street light.
[45:44] I think there's a problem.
[45:45] You would be next.
[45:46] That should be factored in since it is a well-invested area, it's for safety.
[45:50] Yeah, I think with regard to, I mean, projects been led, I mean, contracts been awarded.
[45:56] And so that would be an extra later, you know, you're talking, but it's not in the current plan.
[46:04] I think, very good thing, did they approve or recommend it any other, any other things to ramp, ramp?
[46:13] I think it's very much in my recovery.
[46:15] That's really, and this is just Catholic.
[46:18] Yeah, we'll cover the rest.
[46:19] Yeah, we'll cover the rest.
[46:19] Yeah, we'll cover the rest.
[46:20] They kind of weren't meeting last before we were in.
[46:24] It was second iteration on projects.
[46:27] So I haven't been there.
[46:29] I mean, just to give you an idea, in addition to these capital,
[46:32] there's another 35,000 that they approved to fund project earlier.
[46:39] And we'll cover that later.
[46:41] You know, this is just the capital of California portion of it.
[46:46] Okay.
[46:46] Thank you.
[46:48] The infrastructure.
[46:50] These are the things you sort of put in order.
[46:55] Why these are hidden?
[46:57] Because they're very underground.
[46:59] You've got to have this all important.
[47:01] This is everything minus power.
[47:03] Power has its own slide.
[47:05] So those look at road.
[47:07] And again, as Levi mentioned, this was not include retained maintenance, so the crap
[47:14] seating and all that stuff, we're probably half million, but just with maintenance, it's
[47:21] not included on capital.
[47:23] These are improvements and enhancements, new improvement.
[47:29] So we talked about the work in line roundabout that we're going to start working on,
[47:34] soon. The bond balance project is wrapping up. And as we move forward with 24 through 26,
[47:45] the two big projects will be pressed to grow and 200 more.
[47:51] Can you quickly, like, if you go down this really fast, you know, can you say what's
[47:57] like the four underneath that ZEC road funds is it is a so they're broken out in the
[48:02] funds so all that is going to be in the road fund it has a road fund that's money that
[48:06] we collect what do we get to the summaries it will show you how to walk
[48:10] free so if you look at yeah the membership tie I was in the west edge front regional council
[48:17] board meeting SG and all of these projects come from the city that we're recommending
[48:22] we put in for those purchases yeah we're hoping that 5 million for two or more
[48:27] Okay, we haven't received anything yet.
[48:32] It wasn't on the list, but we're on the list.
[48:34] Okay, I didn't say that.
[48:35] Okay.
[48:36] Where are we?
[48:37] I talked to our engineer.
[48:38] Where are we on the 200 North?
[48:40] Is that kind of still the, I mean, that we were saying in 24.
[48:44] So coming budget, we're going to start the design on 200 North.
[48:48] That's three hundred thousand dollars.
[48:49] Okay.
[48:50] I would just quickly, well, we're not in about a, like to see if it would be feasible
[48:56] to line 200 victories, like similar to Main Street in Farmington.
[49:02] I talked to the engineer about it and kind of mentioned, like, oh, that wasn't really,
[49:07] it weren't really thinking of trees, whenever talking off 200.
[49:11] I was going to talk to Farmington to see how wide that Main Street is.
[49:15] I think our focus would be if we were to do trees as to focus downtown.
[49:19] How could tourism mainstream as a most active network because the turn of north is a
[49:26] Heavenly traffic
[49:26] Women through is too long, but I think it would be difficult to do trees on
[49:31] No, I'd like your idea of light straight lights
[49:34] Yeah, we have the
[49:35] Yeah, I do I would like to see them continue. It's too late. I don't know that we had a picture. Okay, I thought that was a great idea
[49:46] I'm still just top to farm ten and see how wide that means through it is just to see if that could even be a relevant possibility
[49:55] Why didn't the park trips a little bit so it isn't really wide road and we are treasony
[50:02] Maybe second wars all the way up who a job
[50:05] I was both looking for Josh and I don't know, but quick, he's all.
[50:08] Yeah.
[50:09] I love those.
[50:10] Just a reaction on the point.
[50:13] This is a big one.
[50:13] Yeah, no.
[50:14] Okay.
[50:14] That's what I think this is.
[50:16] Okay.
[50:17] Another big project is the last thing we've scored more.
[50:20] $8 million.
[50:22] It was.
[50:22] We're setting 10.
[50:24] That's the actor road.
[50:26] It goes.
[50:27] I'm already got a paper.
[50:29] It is.
[50:30] Yeah, I'll bring.
[50:31] Yeah, because this is a red.
[50:32] It's not a red, so it's not.
[50:34] Well, it's included, but it's offset by money coming in to pay for it.
[50:39] So, yeah, connector road, what we like to say is that is not, you know, be some city money's
[50:45] well, the most green that is money coming to us all day.
[50:47] Without you, for me.
[50:48] You've already received five and a half million of that.
[50:51] Okay.
[50:51] And to the bank, we're clicking interest on it, so.
[50:55] Without it, we had to collect it 14.5 million to that ground.
[50:58] but we had to push some of ours towards the part.
[51:02] I mean, it's the combined it, right?
[51:04] Right, it's part of with farming.
[51:06] And right, it's $14.5 million in this one total project.
[51:09] And it's been funded through.
[51:11] It was county anchors.
[51:12] So you're done with your channel on the table structure.
[51:15] We're just better not.
[51:16] Because we're the last.
[51:17] That was our big thing was, because we're the last one
[51:19] to go in, we've got to not be the ones.
[51:21] But we would have, I'd have to break it into a three-part project.
[51:25] It's all right, one project.
[51:26] So there is extra money due, they're gonna have to pull me up
[51:34] for this room in, because going from
[51:40] from my 15, if it's shippered the design, it's shippered.
[51:43] Sometimes, you're gonna shepard have some ideas.
[51:45] And then it's 9.50 north and then it's around the next, the inner chain, the outer chain,
[51:49] the outer chain.
[51:50] So there's that part, the comes off of shepard laying, it comes over the overpass of the freeway
[51:55] and the inner ties into that right, and the discharging to adjust our boundary.
[51:59] That was the effect on our investment, you know, that's my follow-up.
[52:02] This should all be based on this doll paper.
[52:05] But okay, here's my question.
[52:07] Is anybody been in contact with Jeff?
[52:11] Like, I heard a river that you sold tied to Symphony?
[52:15] Yeah.
[52:16] You did.
[52:17] Oh, yeah.
[52:18] You did.
[52:18] Yeah.
[52:19] I don't believe it.
[52:21] Good question, sir.
[52:23] There's a lot of the land down the whole city.
[52:25] What do you mean?
[52:26] You know, you're maybe...
[52:26] I agree.
[52:28] I'll see you in the next video.
[52:30] I don't think so. I don't know. I don't know. That's why I was very sick of it and you heard what the deal was.
[52:45] It's my guess and that maybe is, I did it for my guess, was that he sold the whole thing and then now he's rubbing it back.
[52:56] And then I add another three, I don't know the deal, he tells me that I heard, was he sold them all the past year and I heard you around it, he kept the barn, the stuff for now.
[53:04] And this ivory has the option on the piece next to it.
[53:09] Yeah, they've got that option for a lot of four years here.
[53:15] But you're not saying that a million doesn't include us doing that.
[53:20] Doing the angel to sunset aspect of the project.
[53:27] Okay, so row the shift to water.
[53:31] And these are related to roads.
[53:32] If we're going to do the road, we probably ought to make the water system improvements as well.
[53:38] I'll turn it off and press one.
[53:41] Here's what you need to circle.
[53:44] The 4.5 and the 2.7.
[53:48] Where is that?
[53:49] It goes in the 20...
[53:51] What do I want to tell you?
[53:52] I want to tell you, sir.
[53:52] I want to tell you, sir.
[53:53] I want to tell you.
[53:54] That's a big reach.
[53:57] I mean, that's a big reach for a huge reach.
[54:00] Yeah, and when you look at the water fund summary toward the end of our discussion, you know, kind of see.
[54:06] Right.
[54:08] Oh, yeah.
[54:09] Yeah.
[54:10] When the water fund revenue for the entire years, about $3.6 million.
[54:16] And when you operate on that and do improvements, and we have those kind of numbers,
[54:23] we want that you may want to look at is bonding for those two projects.
[54:28] Okay, so one of the things that I get a little frustrated with is unfunded man
[54:32] So when you're given us these numbers, could you please somehow maybe tell us what the revenue stream would be for those?
[54:38] Does I'm trying to?
[54:39] I'm trying to mention Jacqueline.
[54:40] Okay, that's what I mean in this case you're saying it's bonding, but there's a lot of things in here
[54:44] because we talk about all these little projects that they cost money.
[54:49] Everyone up and there's just unfunded man.
[54:51] At least you can tell us what the revenue is.
[54:53] Yeah, we're trying to get over you and we get in the fun stuff.
[54:56] and they'll see you at that.
[54:57] All right, thank you.
[54:59] So it's a stormwater fund of $2 million in $25 similar.
[55:03] Where's that a different deal?
[55:05] Yeah, I'm actually different because we received
[55:08] the answer you found in that one.
[55:10] That's the amount of jobs and graduates and others
[55:13] were working on.
[55:14] Yes, that's a good one.
[55:16] So Dean,
[55:19] so these are the water places
[55:20] that are going in conjunction with the road things going
[55:25] not here, right?
[55:26] So, and I don't need to talk about this.
[55:29] Is it possible at all while doing this
[55:32] to also put power in your ground, or does that not work that way?
[55:36] Like, you can't put power in your ground piece of the time.
[55:40] You can, I'm afraid, that's a pretty expensive way to be expensive.
[55:45] I'm just going to share it, maybe it was more cost-effective.
[55:48] You did a lot of the roads, okay, in there.
[55:49] Probably more cost-effective, but still probably,
[55:52] I think it asks about, but I just, I figure, we're going to have them open up already.
[55:59] If there's any way at all to do that, if it's, and maybe it's not at that, and maybe the
[56:05] part is better for you to say that.
[56:08] Probably I was in Austin, and TF, we can afford it.
[56:13] Okay, and then last, maybe it's an RPA fund, we're certainly going to have those private projects
[56:18] going on and they're funded through that RPA money.
[56:21] I think we can now should come to the dean, where would sidewalks be?
[56:31] They would generally be included in there, but it would be an operational cost.
[56:36] Okay, I can show that.
[56:36] Yeah, like we came in there.
[56:39] The next page on infrastructure is electric infrastructure.
[56:46] Again, in blue are the impact fields for projects.
[56:51] It was a project, it was Ryan's been talking about the two big certification projects.
[56:57] I think that you can see some other projects.
[57:02] Those people down there.
[57:02] You'll notice it's kind of broken into these sections.
[57:05] Like, top is the impact fee facilities plan.
[57:08] Dean can probably speak more to it, but we've done studies and we have...
[57:13] There's an impact fee study plan.
[57:15] So that's the top part and then there was a long range study plan done.
[57:19] that this is what was recommended as part of that study and then there's additional below that so
[57:28] just to me to stay on track with those studies that were done in these are the costs that
[57:34] are part of that. And then we do new line construction every year and we budget about half
[57:46] So, why do we need new infrastructure?
[57:49] So, I mean, I asked that question because for more, I said,
[57:52] we want to go into development and this and develop a result of that.
[57:57] We can take the line with, it's like, it's a great placement.
[58:01] So, we look at facilities and they're 35 years or so.
[58:06] It's time for the placement.
[58:07] Okay, that's just, it's just normal.
[58:08] We need to have the definition of capital because it's new to the placement of maintenance.
[58:16] You can see one row there that doesn't have any numbers in it at all.
[58:21] Yeah, like that one.
[58:23] That's a good one.
[58:24] That's there to give the column here big enough.
[58:28] Generation facility.
[58:29] A lot of municipal power systems have their own generation.
[58:34] If you look at that, they have generators.
[58:37] which have shaved an awful lot of elite power costs off the top when we can kick on those generators.
[58:47] I think Highland was just putting a new system in there.
[58:52] We have a perfect location for that.
[58:56] We've got the burn lane sub because there's an high pressure gas line that goes right through the city.
[59:02] We could tap into that and put generators there.
[59:07] That's probably a $50 million project.
[59:11] Really? That's it.
[59:14] What would the ROI be on that?
[59:17] I mean, how much could we say by doing something like that?
[59:20] We'd have to determine that.
[59:22] Not usually.
[59:23] We're 25 years.
[59:25] We're 25 years.
[59:26] The power commission may talk about that.
[59:29] That actually, after talking about,
[59:32] And it sounds like it's something we really need to consider doing, but 50 million is way more than what they do out.
[59:41] I think it's going to be very, very wrong. I just don't know if they're familiar with it.
[59:44] It's your product check.
[59:45] One of the, one of the options I think about the guys that have been helping with the power stuff company.
[59:53] They come in and they build those things.
[59:55] They take on a capital.
[1:00:00] It's gone by, I think they've east of the tower back, maybe a little higher, but they don't have to take on the verb.
[1:00:08] And that's what they were referring to.
[1:00:11] And that's how UNP, I think, did it for Ira, they identified it as a UNP project.
[1:00:18] And then they entered into a local agreement, how they were just a UNP for that.
[1:00:23] Yeah, and there doesn't affect city bonding or city resources, just an agreement.
[1:00:28] And they can't take it.
[1:00:29] And I'm just saying we don't have to go through the U.S.
[1:00:31] First something like that.
[1:00:33] I think that would be interesting.
[1:00:35] Yeah.
[1:00:35] Because that's what that solar guy is doing.
[1:00:37] I think that pitch that he's given to the cities is talking all the solar plant.
[1:00:43] You just have to provide you with the land.
[1:00:45] They could see or build it or whatever.
[1:00:49] And he just figured out how to get tax credit.
[1:00:52] It's in all kinds of empty cells.
[1:00:54] His tax credits were doing the solar key cells into other companies.
[1:00:57] that are needing tax credits on their business.
[1:01:01] So, it's like, it's just a,
[1:01:03] it's just a, it's like, during the next level.
[1:01:05] It's total broker.
[1:01:06] But he's figured it out.
[1:01:08] So then he just charges these charge fees,
[1:01:12] each charges the fee, and you pay maybe a little bit more
[1:01:16] than you would if you'd bill your own,
[1:01:17] but you don't have to bill it with the panel or the rest.
[1:01:20] Take all the rest.
[1:01:20] John, I wonder if you could,
[1:01:22] you might talk more about this and talk to the mayor
[1:01:25] I'll do that.
[1:01:28] Yes, on.
[1:01:30] On one.
[1:01:31] On the other.
[1:01:32] Okay.
[1:01:34] Let's see that.
[1:01:35] We'll have to go to the next recital letter.
[1:01:37] That's the guy here.
[1:01:38] We'll go to the next recital.
[1:01:44] This is the recital.
[1:01:45] We put that.
[1:01:45] That's the recital number here.
[1:01:47] These are just two equipment items that we've programmed for this year.
[1:02:04] We currently have at least purchase $4,000 and $24 the last year, and then we've been doing a similar program going forward at $25 or $26.
[1:02:18] So I'd love you to anything else to be done within the thousands of living equipment
[1:02:24] that are placed on, yeah, to be crushed in a police department, but when they throw it,
[1:02:30] when they give these numbers out, and I'm not, I'm sure they do their due diligence
[1:02:35] as well, but did these tend to be a little higher than normal or pretty exact, or how
[1:02:41] do they figure out the exact number of cases?
[1:02:43] Well, most department actually, we'll get proposals,
[1:02:47] we'll get that to get that to be able to.
[1:02:48] So this is the pit proposal number, is it?
[1:02:54] Probably.
[1:02:55] Probably, it's probably reached out to the supplier
[1:03:00] and said, what is it called, light fitness, or...
[1:03:02] For example, we started using the equipment.
[1:03:05] That's probably a particular place,
[1:03:07] and some of the stuff we have there.
[1:03:08] That's really good.
[1:03:09] It's quite reasonable, you can do it.
[1:03:11] Yes, as far as the process, dude.
[1:03:12] like, is there any, is everyone puts in their recommendations for the budgets? Is there any oversight?
[1:03:23] Typically, where is that company? City of Culture that goes to her and says,
[1:03:26] you approach the budget amount and when it comes time to purchase that, including requirement.
[1:03:32] Okay.
[1:03:33] And then let's go out and put it up to three bit.
[1:03:35] Is it some of the stuff I'm wondering, like, if there's equipment that's still good enough,
[1:03:43] It's not just with that, but everything down the line.
[1:03:46] Well, I think that was back to our point about get ahead in the maintenance curve.
[1:03:53] You know, with capital item to buy capital item and keep up on them and keep maintained.
[1:04:00] And you know, by giving the standing desk 17,000.
[1:04:05] But that's better.
[1:04:07] That's probably a new requirement.
[1:04:09] You'll be doing it.
[1:04:11] That's probably.
[1:04:11] That's not the only one.
[1:04:12] I get enough of this.
[1:04:13] The police station just has the, we'll see the rest right now.
[1:04:16] I'll just stay in home.
[1:04:16] So they want to get.
[1:04:17] They want to get the rest.
[1:04:18] There's a seven thing balance.
[1:04:20] And that's in 25.
[1:04:21] That's just going to 25.
[1:04:22] It's not here.
[1:04:23] I understand that.
[1:04:24] But it's just, it's just seems kind of crazy.
[1:04:27] And the public's on that.
[1:04:28] It's something grand for standard desk.
[1:04:32] I think you know how many, how many, how many.
[1:04:34] How many does it give you?
[1:04:35] My office bought me a sandwich desk, the waste of money. I don't like it. I don't like it. I think it's the most.
[1:04:41] I just can't really fill it up one day. It's there. But you still think it's there.
[1:04:46] And they like little treadmills in there.
[1:04:47] Yeah.
[1:04:48] And I'm not necessarily a pencil. I'm just saying.
[1:04:50] That's a pretty fine.
[1:04:52] I really got more and more.
[1:04:54] Well, I think that's part of your, as we go through these.
[1:04:57] Keep in mind these items.
[1:04:59] stuff you want at the end, you're going to have to think how do we, you want that thing to
[1:05:04] serve?
[1:05:05] I don't know.
[1:05:08] Yeah.
[1:05:08] Yeah.
[1:05:09] Yeah.
[1:05:10] Yeah.
[1:05:11] Yeah.
[1:05:12] Yeah.
[1:05:13] Yeah.
[1:05:16] Yeah.
[1:05:17] And once you have a big picture of everything, like, where are you, is we're going to have to make cuts with the far, work for high situation.
[1:05:25] And looking at some of the stuff, and like, we really need to start figuring out.
[1:05:29] And that's what we're going to be doing.
[1:05:30] Maybe, or you can talk to this specific department ahead and get it over for me.
[1:05:34] That's the other thing in general.
[1:05:38] It's okay.
[1:05:39] Last one.
[1:05:40] We can't do this in vehicles.
[1:05:46] It's definitely going to be general fun.
[1:05:49] I'm going to do this for the first time.
[1:05:52] So G-finition is requesting the requirements to get in the cycle.
[1:06:00] That's a 24-month deal.
[1:06:03] So it's interesting that you just received a variety one.
[1:06:06] this year, another brand new one last year. So yeah, last two years, last three years, we have two
[1:06:13] new languages and we pay about 260 for those. Now they're pricing them at 432 with a two-year
[1:06:22] belt. And the money's at front, right? This one is not. Okay. So this is one that is included in the budget
[1:06:30] And it's why we probably, you want to move forward, we can order, but not pay for it in 24.
[1:06:37] I would like more scrutiny on this after what we went to at the fire trucks.
[1:06:42] And what we tried to state is, yeah, what we made, well, well, I'm not comfortable moving forward.
[1:06:52] Okay, getting in the ambulance right off the bat, especially if we've got two.
[1:06:55] once a month.
[1:06:58] Yeah, it was part of the
[1:07:00] thought asked because we were looking at building the new fire station at this one
[1:07:05] or just something just because you feel like we need to yeah.
[1:07:10] How long do you think how long was last pretty much the life?
[1:07:15] Yeah, it's quite short.
[1:07:17] My end is I mean, you know, in first part of those first
[1:07:19] and you looked at the last of the back came here, but then you get in that one's now and they're running
[1:07:23] the wheels off of them five years many feet five or six from them five or six and have a chance of running
[1:07:30] Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Well, there you get the whole thing.
[1:07:33] Who do you think is the point where you're going to do that?
[1:07:35] It's not a great idea.
[1:07:37] It's like that.
[1:07:38] And I don't think that's a great idea.
[1:07:40] It takes the tires every year, because you get some amount of money.
[1:07:43] I think it's a point where they're out of warranty.
[1:07:46] That's what you look at.
[1:07:47] That's what I was kind of like.
[1:07:49] You look at this.
[1:07:51] What's they're out of warranty?
[1:07:53] Yeah.
[1:07:53] You look at the warranty.
[1:07:54] You look at the warranty.
[1:07:55] You look at the warranty.
[1:07:59] We drive every day and we drive it much more for our sleep and the ambulance is our
[1:08:06] public job.
[1:08:07] No, the ambulance is here, but a wave or a heart.
[1:08:10] I'm usually wave or you may be saying, well, yeah, I just think we could probably slow down a little
[1:08:19] bit.
[1:08:20] That's what I need to do.
[1:08:21] That would be very exciting.
[1:08:24] This year, again, we're facing a 24-month build.
[1:08:29] That's the easiest you've been for getting here, and the same is through the Derek truck.
[1:08:33] You have a low $450,000 for granted.
[1:08:37] That's a two-year bill.
[1:08:39] What did the Derek thank you?
[1:08:41] The above.
[1:08:42] The other bucket went okay.
[1:08:45] So if I may love
[1:08:51] our prior apartment, but and she will say this himself.
[1:08:55] Very expensive insurance policy.
[1:08:57] And I know it's unpopular about I still I think would be interested in doing some sort of a study to see what are not in the long term we could say money by going to a fire district with fire intended for heights.
[1:09:11] Because we're not telling you that the kind of awful wants to offload dispatch services.
[1:09:17] Yeah.
[1:09:17] It just seems to me that if we're already having to
[1:09:22] just take over dispatch or go through Bountiful or whoever we decide to go through for dispatch
[1:09:26] that it might just give us to take it all under and see if we can get a better price on all of it.
[1:09:31] Yeah.
[1:09:31] Yeah.
[1:09:32] That's good.
[1:09:33] Yeah.
[1:09:35] Districts aren't always the...
[1:09:38] Yeah.
[1:09:39] I know Senator Bill, I had about experience with district, but what can you do for district is because it's on taxing energy.
[1:09:48] And so you should, you should, you should, the tax burden from the city to the rest, I guess.
[1:09:57] But because of that, is that silver taxing energy.
[1:09:59] Going from the way we dispatched notes to unify or consolidate a dispatched, and it has just a lot more, which is where it is.
[1:10:09] I mean just to look at what I'm not saying, I'm pretty sure 100% it would be in that, but if we can save people money, it's hard about wanting to give up the ability ourselves to try to keep those costs down by going to a district and a district then where it's out of our hand we can.
[1:10:25] We have a lot of cases involved, and then the rest of our replacement schedule is what
[1:10:34] we've established.
[1:10:36] So, please be able to start at $47,000 and that's where we've placed in poor vehicles
[1:10:39] for a year, and if you have 30 bus officers talking about that for a week, five or six-year
[1:10:46] rotations.
[1:10:47] So, one of the, what we're talking about being able, is that I was a real proponent of pushing
[1:10:54] rotation vehicles and having that, but that was based on the fact that we were going to
[1:10:59] buy like F150, something that was very popular to sell and then come to find out we bought
[1:11:04] some electric cars. Well electric cars after you put 100,000 miles on the four-by-year-old
[1:11:09] over-work, so that's enough. Because you got by the boundaries, the boundaries cost as much as
[1:11:13] the cars do. So they're also the trade-honors, it's no good anymore. So that whole time,
[1:11:19] part of it. Let's get a fleet and do a fleet and rotate a fleet. And I thought that's exactly what they're going to do and they did the complete opposite. So now I don't know where to go with the fleet.
[1:11:31] I think police may be an exception because we're doing the different way you're saying on the other side of that.
[1:11:39] Yeah, my guys can drive that one, 50s, and I know the police wanted to look at, if there were
[1:11:46] efficiencies and using electric vehicles, and I think there's some savings, but we still need to
[1:11:53] evaluate long-term of every now and last option.
[1:11:56] I mean, realistic, but I said, I was hoping we'd get a fleet, because the fleet vehicles
[1:12:02] go, they sell the open market, the private market, for a really good amount.
[1:12:07] you get a good return, we've all seen that and we know that it was well, unless you pick a vehicle, nobody wants.
[1:12:14] You're a pretty example, Mike, the police department had an F-150, but they kept one year.
[1:12:21] They sold it in about everyone, and then that cost was $1,500.
[1:12:26] Yeah, yeah, $1,500. It doesn't matter. We can buy on a discount, selling at $1,000.
[1:12:32] It's $1,000. It's about $1,000. It's about $1,000. It's about $1,000.
[1:12:34] a ton of vehicle? Yeah. So yeah, we're trying to do those stuff. I thought I'd
[1:12:39] do it, and we thought electric vehicles, I knew, I knew. I'd get to my point to that.
[1:12:44] There might be a few vehicles, where the cost benefit would be much, a more
[1:12:51] paper if it wasn't out of truck. Folks that really just don't need to
[1:13:09] Yeah.
[1:13:10] Question on the capitalize.
[1:13:16] Yeah.
[1:13:17] Yeah.
[1:13:17] We question.
[1:13:17] You're at it.
[1:13:18] Great.
[1:13:19] Question.
[1:13:20] Sure.
[1:13:22] I've been to five minutes.
[1:13:27] I've
[1:13:31] been to five minutes.
[1:13:33] Thank you.
[1:13:35] You think it's big?
[1:13:36] Yeah.
[1:13:38] I think it's a big.
[1:13:39] I think it's a big.
[1:13:40] I don't know.
[1:13:41] What's your name?
[1:13:43] I think we have to get trees on the 100th.
[1:13:45] I think so too all the way, but yeah, yeah.
[1:13:47] I was gonna, I want to see how wide barring it is.
[1:13:50] Yeah, we're gonna mention that.
[1:13:51] Yeah, we should do that.
[1:13:52] But they're planning on widening 200, 200 does not need
[1:13:58] any more room service.
[1:13:59] Well, I think that's available.
[1:14:02] I don't know, I agree.
[1:14:03] I'm full of your app.
[1:14:04] I think it can be, I think, for the kids to need to be wide.
[1:14:08] Is there so much traffic on it?
[1:14:09] I think it'll be a lot more friendly if we add more space
[1:14:13] and more lanes.
[1:14:14] I would love to add bike lanes to it.
[1:14:17] We'll see, I don't know, they have trees of bike lanes.
[1:14:19] They keep it single way, all directions.
[1:14:22] Well, if we want to do bike lanes, I think we have to do like a protected bike lane.
[1:14:26] But honestly, when you look at,
[1:14:29] Do you have any biker's going to the north?
[1:14:32] I have a bike all by being in this city before.
[1:14:35] I don't know, I don't know, I'm going to do it anymore.
[1:14:37] But I try to avoid it now when you go to the north.
[1:14:41] But if you look at Zion, how many people go to Zion, it's just one and one out of them.
[1:14:48] And that's humiliating, humiliating people.
[1:14:52] Yeah, but they also can artificially tell you who can go in.
[1:14:56] They stopped it so people can't describe in anymore.
[1:14:58] No, no, no, I'm not talking about the actual part.
[1:15:03] It's one day to one hour.
[1:15:07] I would like, no, I would be never talking about that.
[1:15:11] A few hundred is it basically well sung 200 now.
[1:15:16] I would always remain that about it.
[1:15:18] I don't think we need four ways.
[1:15:21] Do you know, it's never been going to get worse than it is now.
[1:15:25] I'm hungry.
[1:15:26] I live off with you.
[1:15:27] You're right, and I fall off, and I'm doing it every day.
[1:15:31] I avoid 200 whenever possible, because I think I'm going to drive on.
[1:15:34] I would never ride my bike there, because I would be tired.
[1:15:37] I don't know.
[1:15:38] I started riding my bike.
[1:15:40] I only got one that I want, but it's nice coming down the trail, but then coming from
[1:15:45] the trail up 200 north there, it's like, yep.
[1:15:48] Yeah.
[1:15:48] Funny commission.
[1:15:49] When we did the general fun, we said, maybe we should put bikes on that main part of 200,
[1:15:53] but we should make a bike route through the neighbor who's just one walk over.
[1:15:56] What are you looking at doing?
[1:16:00] I'm looking at you.
[1:16:02] Like you can't stay on one side of the road.
[1:16:04] I'm like when you get to the top.
[1:16:06] I'm like, it's well.
[1:16:07] There you go.
[1:16:09] What's up?
[1:16:10] I'm like...
[1:16:11] I don't know.
[1:16:12] That sounds good.
[1:16:13] That sounds good.
[1:16:18] Now it's just an easy.
[1:16:19] He's been set last couple years.
[1:16:21] Yes, he's been set last couple years.
[1:16:24] He's been set last couple.
[1:16:25] Oh, you just finally finally back.
[1:16:27] Oh, dear.
[1:16:28] What do be saying, John?
[1:16:29] He said fine, it had even bought bites about it.
[1:16:33] So it's pretty fun.
[1:16:34] It's something to be said and
[1:16:39] we're talking to hundreds of questions.
[1:16:43] Yeah.
[1:16:43] Yeah, whatever.
[1:16:45] Well we need to, you always have to look at the other ones.
[1:16:49] Let's just look.
[1:16:50] Let's just look at the another one,
[1:16:50] look at the other one.
[1:16:51] Look at the other one.
[1:16:51] That's good.
[1:16:53] Yeah.
[1:16:53] So, what are you talking about?
[1:16:54] Let's start.
[1:16:55] I'm gonna just hand sort of.
[1:16:57] Yeah.
[1:16:57] Right over the border.
[1:16:58] Oh, hello, I will be with you.
[1:17:01] Wait, he's put 200 calories with him.
[1:17:04] I'll see you on my table.
[1:17:06] It sounds like a movie.
[1:17:07] A pull up.
[1:17:08] It sounds like a movie.
[1:17:10] It looks like right in the gallery sat bagel.
[1:17:12] It's about 245.
[1:17:14] Well, I've heard you try it without worries about it.
[1:17:16] It's just what you're just doing.
[1:17:18] What's it?
[1:17:19] What's it?
[1:17:19] What's it?
[1:17:20] What's it?
[1:17:21] What's it?
[1:17:22] What's it?
[1:17:22] What's it?
[1:17:23] What's it?
[1:17:24] I'm going to worry about this guy in actually, about $45,000.
[1:17:30] That's always been in the plan to make a line here.
[1:17:34] Or like, in some other facilities, we've noticed that when I first started.
[1:17:37] Oh, yeah, I was going to say everything that's going on.
[1:17:39] I mean, you go back to East, you go into where.
[1:17:43] It's probably not really the best.
[1:17:45] So beyond the law to watch what they really need with the traffic.
[1:17:51] So do you need us the traffic in the air?
[1:17:53] Yeah, but they have a lot of traffic too.
[1:17:55] We're here.
[1:17:56] We definitely wouldn't.
[1:17:58] I don't see that.
[1:17:58] That's what nasty tree sits.
[1:18:00] Yeah.
[1:18:01] That's what I'm saying.
[1:18:05] Well.
[1:18:06] I just think four lanes were two.
[1:18:07] I think we'll put a protected bike lane.
[1:18:10] That's right.
[1:18:10] We got to do it.
[1:18:11] Like the raised protected bike lane.
[1:18:13] We're a big brother.
[1:18:14] One, two, one.
[1:18:15] That would be nice.
[1:18:17] It would be nice.
[1:18:17] It would be nice.
[1:18:17] Yeah.
[1:18:19] And I was trying to...
[1:18:20] I was trying to...
[1:18:21] I was trying to...
[1:18:21] Yeah.
[1:18:22] I was trying to...
[1:18:23] I didn't even do it. I walked all the way back and I'm down here because it's still even
[1:18:29] little. It's still dangerous, but I don't really want to do it.
[1:18:32] I don't really want to do it. I don't really want to do it.
[1:18:34] I don't really want to do it. I would never.
[1:18:40] I think it's a really good show.
[1:18:41] But so, I like to begin with the thing that I'm going to be whatever.
[1:18:44] There's a case where I'm going to have to do different things that we're doing for mental health,
[1:18:50] physical activity, and one other one.
[1:19:21] Okay, so I think we can, oh and food and I think we can have a community garden as
[1:19:23] I mean, I don't know what we would do to fundraise it.
[1:19:26] But, I don't know.
[1:19:28] I don't know what we would do to fundraise it.
[1:19:29] Yeah.
[1:19:29] Put it in the walls.
[1:19:31] Yeah.
[1:19:44] Yeah.
[1:19:44] You know.
[1:19:46] Sure.
[1:19:48] I think about it.
[1:19:49] Okay.
[1:19:49] That's what I get.
[1:19:51] So you're on.
[1:19:52] We can just throw this back out.
[1:19:56] We don't care about it.
[1:19:59] I was going to throw this one now.
[1:20:01] I was just out of watch out for meeting there increasing eight and a half percent.
[1:20:06] Wow.
[1:20:07] Okay.
[1:20:07] Can somebody please unpack that product and tell them I need eight and a half percent.
[1:20:13] Everybody.
[1:20:14] I will.
[1:20:15] And we have this mayor's text going around about.
[1:20:18] I'm sorry.
[1:20:20] I'm sorry.
[1:20:21] I'm sorry.
[1:20:21] I'm sorry.
[1:20:21] You're recording.
[1:20:23] Okay.
[1:20:23] That's good.
[1:20:25] Okay.
[1:20:29] Good luck.
[1:20:32] Okay.
[1:20:32] I want a lot of preface this morning with, again, we're trying to give you the best information
[1:20:38] that we can, and then you're the decision makers.
[1:20:43] So as we go through this employee discussion, we want to give you what we're hearing, what
[1:20:50] we're seeing out there, and then you evaluate.
[1:20:54] So, the first one is a listing, our human resources schedule, this consists of all some
[1:21:06] employees by the Department and by the remaining, we may have asked a couple of people on that.
[1:21:14] And we asked each department to consider what their needs are and what they see going forward and regards to staffing.
[1:21:27] I'm going to say it up front, so no one panics.
[1:21:32] There are several ask, not one of these is included in the budget.
[1:21:38] Okay, none of these are included.
[1:21:39] at the very bottom.
[1:21:41] So for this fiscal year, the ASC was 11 new positions.
[1:21:44] And this is the total wage and benefits.
[1:21:48] But none of what that would be, of what that would cost.
[1:21:52] And but none of that is included so far.
[1:21:55] So I'll leave it within a minute.
[1:21:55] And that's based on the direction we Council gave us.
[1:21:59] We think it was going to be different enough.
[1:22:03] We have not defined any question about buttons.
[1:22:06] Just so you know, these are the ASC.
[1:22:08] We still have to be part of to say here the needs calendar.
[1:22:13] So, my department, accounting court,
[1:22:18] they're more and more accounting requirements that we're being asked to be.
[1:22:23] And I'm killing poorly by and Brenda.
[1:22:26] And there's a need there.
[1:22:28] And so that would be my...
[1:22:30] We're asking for a question. We're asking for a crew leader. We're asking for a shift from a part-time to a full-time position. So you can see the cost and the savings. Again, this is just, this is combined bench, but it's more not going to pay than 87,000.
[1:22:48] I'm just a little bit about it.
[1:22:50] Yeah.
[1:22:50] Yeah.
[1:22:52] That's a little bit.
[1:22:54] Yeah.
[1:22:54] Yeah, too.
[1:22:57] All coming.
[1:22:58] Thank you.
[1:22:59] Thank you.
[1:22:59] And getting kind of a real pleasure.
[1:23:02] On the heart and heart seat, you know, like one of the things that they don't do is help.
[1:23:07] We can make it a lot much less.
[1:23:10] People there can be at our right.
[1:23:12] On a tear.
[1:23:12] We're involved.
[1:23:13] Well, I just don't know.
[1:23:14] I just don't know.
[1:23:14] I don't have to use them a question, so how much is he computed it all at the savings
[1:23:19] and the needs of group for who not having those people around and to then be a retired
[1:23:24] or I've only talked about that, and you're right, John, we have the question as we can't
[1:23:28] hire enough seasonal folks, so let's spend less on seasonal and hire a full time, and so there
[1:23:35] would be some mass savings there for sure.
[1:23:38] I think there's a lot more inclined to give him, like what he was asking for if he could
[1:23:43] show how he's going to pay for, but I'm going to call him later on beat.
[1:23:47] Yeah, there can be a similar thing I've seen a lot of, there'd be some savings here.
[1:23:52] And we're just 20,000 won't be saved and we do that switch and I call specifically does
[1:24:00] have like letters that he put together justifying these requests and I'm sorry I should
[1:24:06] have printed those for you.
[1:24:07] But I think probably give it a much cost in the end.
[1:24:11] And so, all of all send those out to see,
[1:24:14] you can see his justification for these requests.
[1:24:19] But, because, so a quick question, it's a, like,
[1:24:21] really, there, maybe 7,000, that's a better
[1:24:24] than everything.
[1:24:25] And what approximately, what would that be in salary?
[1:24:29] Like, if you'd like to live in 50, I guess.
[1:24:33] I'd be okay.
[1:24:34] I'd be okay, I'd be okay.
[1:24:37] It's about 30% or 30% of the case for benefit.
[1:24:41] Okay, so you can rough numbers there.
[1:24:45] It's difficult.
[1:24:46] And then you can see going forward to what they would hope anticipate.
[1:24:53] Scroll down.
[1:24:55] We've got a Canadian development.
[1:24:57] I think y'all understand what the board
[1:25:02] is.
[1:25:08] maintenance worker, and then how do we get information off so that's something that's
[1:25:15] come up?
[1:25:17] We've had discussion about it, but I would have a number of time to do that, but again,
[1:25:24] it's not another group in the budget.
[1:25:26] Okay.
[1:25:29] Oh yeah.
[1:25:30] Zingos.
[1:25:30] Quarter monkey.
[1:25:32] Okay.
[1:25:32] I wouldn't say that.
[1:25:34] Okay.
[1:25:35] I don't know.
[1:25:36] Police department.
[1:25:38] They're asking for an office clerk and, you know, chief public speaking there is that,
[1:25:43] we could take one of the desk officers away and then put them in the field.
[1:25:51] Right now we have an officer full time and the.
[1:25:54] That's being the desk.
[1:25:55] Yeah, it's getting able to go out into the field and have someone more administrative point.
[1:26:00] And that'd be someone that departments can share.
[1:26:03] Yeah, that would help us too, on the other side.
[1:26:06] So it's just that this district could be scheduling for other departments as well.
[1:26:09] For example, like there's a lot of invoices that go out for getting reimbursed for over time shifts,
[1:26:16] and they work in other agencies.
[1:26:18] It's pretty typical in other departments, other cities, where the police department has staff to do those.
[1:26:24] right now, you guys like me and Cheryl, we do those on the admin side. So that was three
[1:26:30] at bar time because we could maybe shift that to that new person. But then maybe you
[1:26:35] would need a third.
[1:26:37] Well, I just want to talk about that here.
[1:26:39] I was just going to be honest, you just worry, if you have less to do it.
[1:26:41] But that was more for other things, but yeah, that could be harder than I was saying.
[1:26:45] I didn't even carry for us or someone who's a little more skill level.
[1:26:47] Okay.
[1:26:48] So okay, do you need someone that actually has perseverance, but this desk person could maybe
[1:26:53] be shared.
[1:26:55] Yeah, like maybe put it on the monitor's at all. I mean, I guess that was in the quest for a plan or something.
[1:27:00] Yeah, I think her ass would be somewhat of what you asked about so much we don't have a baby coach and ladies.
[1:27:11] So a little more technical.
[1:27:13] So what would they need the office clerk to do? I'm just wondering how technical is that?
[1:27:16] Maybe it would be more someone just to fill, be there in person to fill the case people
[1:27:21] walk in and set up a full-time officer, so like you've got to fill, and then to just
[1:27:27] help with a lot of the administrative lobe that is there with the languages and other things.
[1:27:35] But you've been the police.
[1:27:36] You've been the police.
[1:27:36] You've been the police.
[1:27:36] You've been the police.
[1:27:37] You've been the police.
[1:27:41] You've been the police.
[1:27:45] This is something that every other department who has, we're lacking, is more of the chemistry
[1:27:52] of stuff.
[1:27:53] And when every other person has it, and they're pleased and hard.
[1:27:59] I know you're looking there out.
[1:28:02] Why did you focus on your two new sergeants?
[1:28:10] I think if I recall all of his, just to find that was that we have a lot of younger officers and he would really like to get more leadership, more high-level sergeants to help coast the younger officers we have right now.
[1:28:28] I think that was part of that, two sergeants.
[1:28:32] I'm looking at the H3 sergeant.
[1:28:36] Five, five, five already?
[1:28:38] Eight sergeants?
[1:28:40] Seven, seven.
[1:28:41] So if you want to get two more next year or two next year?
[1:28:45] I'm going to talk to my corporate points at the end of the year.
[1:28:48] So if you can talk to him more about the reasons for that.
[1:28:53] Okay.
[1:28:53] On the next three, two, three department.
[1:28:57] Chief has asked me for a 50 chief fire marshal, and then he suggested that we create additional
[1:29:08] staffing, 3D firefighters. So that will be offset with the part-time position. And then
[1:29:18] you look down the road in 2020-6. That was our initial question when it was the thinking
[1:29:24] to get an administration here.
[1:29:28] There's the members there.
[1:29:30] So, EE, just to explain that negative in 1993 a little more.
[1:29:35] So, right now, we have a part-time firefighter who is on staff 24-7,
[1:29:41] a one-shift filled with a part-time guy constantly.
[1:29:46] And so, his thought is, we'll take that shift off,
[1:29:49] which will then we'll pay less to the part-time wages,
[1:29:52] and then hire three new firefighters to fill that 24-hour shift every day.
[1:30:00] So that's kind of the savings versus cost. And he also thinks that that will help reduce some of the over time pay.
[1:30:12] And so there's about a 70,000 difference right there, but maybe a little less over time pay goes down.
[1:30:20] That was a little bit,
[1:30:24] but that was his thing, and we didn't really want to do this is more like 70 or 60.
[1:30:29] And then we'll ask you, yes, because those kind of net ones, that's the same thing as in the past centuries.
[1:30:36] And the last request is from power department, the leader technician.
[1:30:43] Very damaging.
[1:30:46] And to the leader tech.
[1:30:48] That's more of a specialize.
[1:30:50] So you would go out and especially on course with customers, and you would make sure that all the readings are being actually read.
[1:30:58] Oh, I thought we, I thought they were on me.
[1:31:01] They are, but they're still making sure you just don't have that in person.
[1:31:06] They're trying to assemble it totally.
[1:31:09] Oh, really?
[1:31:10] It's not just a meter.
[1:31:12] Right.
[1:31:13] It's more of a tackle.
[1:31:16] Go back to your mom pocket.
[1:31:21] You go look at a number, you write it down, and you can see it.
[1:31:25] Okay, well, again, those are needs, we think, I think you can look at those and say there
[1:31:32] is a reasonable request and we want them.
[1:31:35] You can not include them, it's called a lot, a bunch of things.
[1:31:41] I mean,
[1:31:44] we just like a question.
[1:31:47] You say they're reasonable, you just presented that 11 goals and employees in one year.
[1:31:55] That's reasonable, right?
[1:31:57] I think if you were going to be part of the parliament and say, what are you going to need?
[1:32:02] I'd say, yeah, I think I could justify my department.
[1:32:05] It's an economic question.
[1:32:07] I've been willing to do the same thing.
[1:32:10] You're right when you look at it, I mean, yeah.
[1:32:12] Yeah, and I'm looking at the big because the money comes out of a buck, and you just presented us 11 full-time employees on here.
[1:32:21] I mean, you're talking to this.
[1:32:22] That is overwhelmed.
[1:32:25] But I mean, two more.
[1:32:26] They're not funded.
[1:32:27] I don't fund it.
[1:32:28] I get it.
[1:32:30] How many employees does City Council have?
[1:32:33] 120.
[1:32:34] So, basically, when I was at the market, I was at the market.
[1:32:37] I was at the market.
[1:32:38] I was at the market.
[1:32:38] I was at the market.
[1:32:38] I'm not sure enough, but like, you know, through a little bit of fire, and I don't need
[1:32:42] to, because you have to feel it's only for our shift.
[1:32:45] No, we saw the data stay okay, almost 10% but over the last year we've grown 10% of the fire
[1:32:52] events, or people, or something, just something to offset that I really wouldn't, I'd also
[1:32:57] love to be able to see a historic over the last five years, how many people have moved, that
[1:33:02] would help me.
[1:33:02] We could look at that.
[1:33:03] Yeah.
[1:33:04] The biggest, the biggest bump there is going to be fire.
[1:33:07] We've got a three-day teen in three years three to 18 in three years
[1:33:15] There's your big because of the time
[1:33:17] Already it's fair and many can they just hire a service model?
[1:33:21] But I first left to see we have three full kind of captains is all
[1:33:25] And that made one position and everyone you know every everybody else is all here
[1:33:35] Yeah, I think that discussion about that
[1:33:38] Okay
[1:33:42] Okay, that's good.
[1:33:43] And so what point can you and how it does?
[1:33:46] Well, I think when there's a giraffes
[1:33:48] you just do your role with eight people.
[1:33:51] Are now we role with eight people.
[1:33:52] Well, it's like last, me and Richard
[1:33:54] love the fire chief of firemen
[1:33:56] and we're talking yesterday specifically
[1:33:58] on how much the fire industry has changed.
[1:34:02] In 1995, if you got a fire alarm,
[1:34:06] we've done that fire station.
[1:34:08] There'd be 30 people there in a year,
[1:34:09] we'd have to bust your and just to make a beat
[1:34:12] to get somewhere. That's when it was a volunteer and part-time paid and there was a lot of
[1:34:17] camaraderie. A lot of that. That's changed. The coal volume was in two or three, four,
[1:34:22] hundred, five hundred columns up to 15. It's gone to a professional department now. There were
[1:34:26] times as a battalion chief up in through heights where the house on fire asking for a second
[1:34:31] engine and I couldn't get one out of my city. So there's been a transition from that.
[1:34:37] 30, 35 volunteers to happen in Manit with full-time people to make sure we can get those pieces and equipment out of there and the band has gotten greater.
[1:34:47] So I know he says we've gone from three full-time to 18 full-time.
[1:34:52] Oh, we've really done it.
[1:34:53] We've gone from three full-time to 18 full-time and lost the 35 part-time volunteers that used to be there.
[1:35:02] But literally I mean there was guys like me. He's got our cell migrating to
[1:35:06] We were in the city all day long every day, you know, and that's how we got out of here a lot of
[1:35:11] But you still have that anymore
[1:35:13] So it's just been a huge transition and it's growing pains
[1:35:17] And it's been a tough one but fun and it's been constantly and I'm part of the problem
[1:35:23] I was part of the problem. Meced off our cell. Like you said in those guys in Larkin because we were just here
[1:35:28] and we went to every call. We were, and we prolong happened to make that transition for a long time.
[1:35:37] But when you did make that transition, it's been very expensive.
[1:35:42] But to Dean's point, what you're saying about, we want to send, send 8.
[1:35:48] Does that mean we send 8 fighters to each call? Like, we send less fighters to each call?
[1:35:54] It's more about the staff and if you do want to staff with eight full-time people, you may not send all eight, but they're still people here.
[1:36:00] And John, you should recall the discussion we had.
[1:36:03] You send an engine out of this.
[1:36:05] Are you sending an ambulance out of here?
[1:36:07] And then you send a paramedics with them.
[1:36:09] That's four of that eight.
[1:36:10] Your city is completely before we added these after people.
[1:36:16] There was nobody else here. There was nobody in the city.
[1:36:19] So, we have created that insurance policy that has cost us a little bit of money, that
[1:36:26] where if we have a buyer or something, we are able to take that second call because all
[1:36:33] these other cities are in the same position we're in.
[1:36:35] They're getting calls at the same time or whatever we've had to up our game as far as that insurance
[1:36:41] policy goes.
[1:36:42] And it's very costly and to go back to six, and that's why you got the eight because if you send the ambulance and the paramedics out of there
[1:36:50] You don't want to send it to me. I'm not saying go back to six, but based all but I'm just telling you why the eight is there and that's why we've funded those extra because there was a surprise remember we funded those extra two positions which man
[1:37:01] six more guys
[1:37:03] It's because we needed to be able to get that apparatus out of here and covered adequately
[1:37:09] for those of them. And they come in three. And because there's a 24-hour shift. Yeah. Yeah, they come in a three.
[1:37:15] But it's all right now. We have eight E1s have mine. Right now we have E2. We would stay.
[1:37:22] Because it's not it'd be then become nine divided by three, so it'd be three.
[1:37:29] This is really the final.
[1:37:30] And I'll, as reshaves the three. Well, in this case, it's no additional people, really. Because you're, you're staffing it with a part time person, it's just moving that part time.
[1:37:41] It's kind of the final part of that transition like was talking about where one, if we were to do this part, we would now have zero part time staffed.
[1:37:50] It would be all over the world.
[1:37:53] Yeah.
[1:37:53] No, wait a minute.
[1:37:54] She has intentions where to keep the part.
[1:37:56] Part time.
[1:37:57] Yeah.
[1:37:57] Those still help out of that.
[1:37:59] To be back for all the vacations over.
[1:38:01] Yeah.
[1:38:02] So that one.
[1:38:03] It really doesn't necessarily.
[1:38:05] Be quick.
[1:38:06] That's it.
[1:38:06] Who's still going to be paying the part time?
[1:38:08] No, because we won't be paying up for a 24 hour shift.
[1:38:12] Constantly.
[1:38:13] It's the number of seven.
[1:38:14] The same phrase.
[1:38:14] That was the same.
[1:38:15] Well, that one, 93 is purely the 24 hour shift.
[1:38:19] seven days a week that we pay a part-time person now. That will drop off and go to the three
[1:38:25] full-time. And we will still have a pool of part-time people to fill in when people take off.
[1:38:32] The part-time transitions more to just fill in as needed as opposed to weeks we staff one part-time
[1:38:38] person constantly. So where's the expense though for when they fill in, when with those times when
[1:38:46] the land for people who are sitting in those types of things because those, it's that doesn't
[1:38:52] happen to the part time budget. Yeah, we budgeted her that. Okay. Okay.
[1:39:00] So in their part time,
[1:39:01] if someone has needed, are they on standby and we still pay them hourly? No, they don't
[1:39:06] get paid until they commit. So there's no schedule for them, they're just on call. Yeah, they
[1:39:10] and actually use their ships.
[1:39:12] Cowboys out.
[1:39:12] Big James, look at us and we're going to be on vacation.
[1:39:16] We're going to be on a new field of shift.
[1:39:19] And right now, when it comes to overtime shifts,
[1:39:21] we have full-time guys filling in for other full-time guys,
[1:39:24] and then we end up paying a lot and overtime.
[1:39:27] And Chief, as part of this, he would try to shift in more tone.
[1:39:32] If there is a fellowship, let's first offer
[1:39:34] to a part-time person, so when I pay to overtime,
[1:39:38] And that's where we might have a little more savings in over time, but kind of shifting our mentality a little bit.
[1:39:48] Okay.
[1:39:49] What's the same?
[1:39:50] Good morning.
[1:39:52] Yeah.
[1:39:54] So,
[1:39:57] and there's the part, you know, because this has been independently by each of these partners.
[1:40:04] Are there any of these positions on you?
[1:40:06] and look at him, the answer is probably no one.
[1:40:08] And then eventually we'll put it for the police department
[1:40:11] that might be able to help that out to help for it.
[1:40:14] Is there anything else that potentially
[1:40:16] you hire one, you can do too, Josh?
[1:40:21] I think there's a pretty special one.
[1:40:22] I can, yeah, like, so you get your hire lawyer
[1:40:26] with an MBA, and they can work for you, then.
[1:40:32] So, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean,
[1:40:33] I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean,
[1:40:34] I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean,
[1:40:37] You think that's realized?
[1:40:39] Is there any training that you can do with current employees that can help them fill
[1:40:44] like Samel in this position, the planner, is there any training that you can do with current
[1:40:50] employees that can help them, and then they're all looking pretty hard, but they would be less
[1:40:56] expensive.
[1:40:56] Are they hiring someone else?
[1:40:58] Are they?
[1:40:58] I've seen a lot of us all here planning out there.
[1:41:02] And for example, when you could look at the position of the arm,
[1:41:08] and to give them more training on a good, very mind-each code,
[1:41:15] when they're not really, we stop now.
[1:41:25] You're welcome.
[1:41:27] Okay, we're going to send it off.
[1:41:30] If that wasn't fun enough, we'll be moving it actually.
[1:42:03] And that's a good point, right, because as we've talked in the government heads, it's okay, and listen up, you too.
[1:42:12] We told them, hurry on, we want you to put it there, but we're going to let you know that we're not going to include it in the budget, because an angry priority is current employees.
[1:42:27] They understand that they understand that I, we did not agree on these numbers.
[1:42:33] So that's that way, he's into the next slide.
[1:42:41] All right, charge scheduling.
[1:42:47] Pull the market.
[1:42:48] Just a minute, Greg.
[1:42:50] Excuse me.
[1:42:51] Well, we're going to look at the HR schedule first.
[1:42:54] No, we're going to get right.
[1:42:56] Mark it.
[1:42:57] Just a little bit.
[1:42:58] Just a little bit.
[1:43:00] Thanks.
[1:43:00] I'm sorry.
[1:43:01] Come on.
[1:43:01] Yeah, you're right.
[1:43:05] We'll see you.
[1:43:06] And this was the discussion we had last year about what should
[1:43:11] So, what should our target be when we're looking at market adjustment?
[1:43:18] And we're going to keep the employees up with market.
[1:43:22] What should the target be?
[1:43:24] We've used the Utah retirement system.
[1:43:28] And what they do is they take the average of the previous 12 months and come up with another
[1:43:36] other views the CPI. The CPI last year was 6.2. The CPI for the Western region this year
[1:43:47] is 7.7. So we've got the increased cost that we're all facing.
[1:43:56] What does the amp mean for CPI?
[1:43:58] Why does the amp mean for CPI?
[1:43:59] Why does the amp mean for CPI?
[1:44:02] Yeah, so this is what you're writing for.
[1:44:06] This is what we've done over the last few years
[1:44:10] and what the URS rates the best last few years.
[1:44:15] I can't tell you how we'll land.
[1:44:18] In my all my years, I've never seen the wage, pressure, and we're experiencing in the city ever.
[1:44:29] And, you know, there's an article I read last night that Utah is one of the top five states for the most difficult place for first time on bars.
[1:44:39] Yeah, yeah.
[1:44:41] Yeah.
[1:44:41] Yeah, yeah.
[1:44:41] It's just crazy up there.
[1:44:43] I mean, Mike and I had this discussing everything that's implemented.
[1:44:48] You know, but I do want to make clear the US that's a percent.
[1:44:52] What does they do?
[1:44:53] But they don't pay that.
[1:44:55] They pay a maximum of 4 percent.
[1:44:57] They banked on the next year.
[1:44:58] And they're going to do an extra bit of a lot of that.
[1:44:59] So what?
[1:45:00] So it's delayed. Yeah, it's delayed. So like next year, it's 2% of the vote of four again, it's the next year's one and they need to catch up. They'll go to what it catches up. Keep catching up if you take it.
[1:45:10] But he doesn't get until the end. But they don't do it up for us.
[1:45:15] Let's go to the next. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. But let's go to the next slide.
[1:45:23] and this is all I wanted to do about a couple of years in the CTI.
[1:45:28] This is what people do.
[1:45:31] Or, I guess they are competitors.
[1:45:33] And they're doing a lot of things.
[1:45:35] And this is what they did in regards to marketing adjustments.
[1:45:42] So I was just going to say what would be helpful
[1:45:44] is to know what their budgets are rather than.
[1:45:48] So you're going to get into that?
[1:45:50] They're told me budgets.
[1:45:51] Well, just so we can compare our budget to their budget, you know, yeah, we don't have that, we can get that.
[1:45:58] Well, it looks gross and it doesn't have a full screen.
[1:46:02] Do you saw that slide that it has like, very taxing.
[1:46:05] Yeah, we'll get a little bit to that.
[1:46:10] So you can see a lot of them targeted generally what the CPI was, is that?
[1:46:20] And I, the conference I went to, which, you know, all the finance directors in the state were
[1:46:28] there.
[1:46:28] And there's a lot of discussion back and forth.
[1:46:30] So this is just data's county, but from the conversations I had, just, I think this
[1:46:35] is a pretty good snapshot just of the state as a whole, like, a lot of people were in those,
[1:46:41] you know, eight, nine, ten range total for last year,
[1:46:47] on what they actually did.
[1:46:49] So, explain this to me, wouldn't,
[1:46:51] so, all the merit, okay.
[1:46:53] Yeah, so it's made,
[1:46:53] because sometimes you got a factor in,
[1:46:56] you know, maybe they did a less of a market,
[1:46:58] but then they do a higher merit,
[1:46:59] and so I think you got to look at that.
[1:47:01] So we need to do a 8% in the context.
[1:47:03] Yeah, close to it.
[1:47:05] Well, yeah.
[1:47:05] Well, of course, we have a five.
[1:47:07] Okay, when you're talking merit,
[1:47:08] What percentage? What percentage of boys got the 3% because 3% is the max they can and that's where it's not
[1:47:14] Yeah, like this isn't total apples apples. Yeah, there's every city does it look that I can give you zero
[1:47:19] I give N1 Mike and like that 8% was not everyone got it on the max 3%
[1:47:24] But just to kind of give you a rough idea
[1:47:27] That is an actual map
[1:47:29] But we allow the arm heads to give to their home
[1:47:33] is that we've been in a certain amount of budget. So as an apartment, I have a hundred dollars.
[1:47:39] And so we budget, oh, Max, assuming everyone can get the full amount, and then what actually happens is somewhere less than that.
[1:47:47] Do we have a questionnaire?
[1:47:49] What did that happen?
[1:47:50] Yeah.
[1:47:51] We took the script.
[1:47:52] That's another thing.
[1:47:53] It's discretionary.
[1:47:54] We took out again.
[1:47:55] So that's not like it was a...
[1:47:58] I put it on what percentage of employees got the full merit we were eligible.
[1:48:02] We can find that out. I'll just be curious. My guess is that it's probably
[1:48:06] Really sure there's something on the know because that it'd be it make big difference to me if I don't play it got 4.75 or an 8% increase
[1:48:14] Well, that they got any merit or no. Yeah, but but also keep in mind there. There were several positions
[1:48:21] You're all be the top of the range
[1:48:24] So the merit is it?
[1:48:26] Yeah, if you're at your range, you don't get mad at all, are you don't?
[1:48:30] So you're the long-term employees that were in the bucket.
[1:48:35] So the only way they get more is the fee and like the production, or just their pay scale.
[1:48:43] And again we're just trying to give the information.
[1:48:45] No, no, I'm actually not.
[1:48:47] I just, and I just come from a 27-year military group where I just have to give 1.5 or 1.
[1:48:57] you know, and when I retired for the last, you know, and that maybe would have been like
[1:49:03] a lot of years, but, you know, in industry, I've been tickled pink every year, it's about
[1:49:10] 3%.
[1:49:11] What do you think you're making when you're actually good?
[1:49:13] Oh, yeah.
[1:49:14] It's, yeah.
[1:49:15] When I was working in a heck of a lot harder than active duty, you know, officer, you know,
[1:49:22] 3% with it is pretty sweet.
[1:49:24] And 4.5% actually, 8%.
[1:49:26] I mean, Gary's what the military did the last couple years.
[1:49:30] It's like a big chance to see the whole country.
[1:49:33] I think they haven't been super-sicated.
[1:49:35] They have something they've got that much.
[1:49:37] I mean, you know.
[1:49:39] Well, I just know the government haven't done a huge show.
[1:49:42] Well, we're living with, you know, the charter is still getting, you know,
[1:49:44] it was probably two and a half, maybe three years.
[1:49:47] And they have not.
[1:49:48] There's not a lot.
[1:49:50] So it was more than we had gotten in the past.
[1:49:55] Okay, so that's right.
[1:49:58] That's right.
[1:49:58] That's right.
[1:49:59] That's right.
[1:50:01] Eight percent.
[1:50:03] It was out of this next one.
[1:50:04] Eight percent plus the three.
[1:50:07] So I love it.
[1:50:09] I'm going to look at that.
[1:50:11] The next one.
[1:50:12] There was a chance.
[1:50:13] I'm not a question.
[1:50:17] The meeting back in July, whatever that was, what was it this day, New York?
[1:50:23] The state did a, this is House Bill 8.
[1:50:25] In fact, in June 15th, 723, 5% of the American increase, 3.75 tb compensation, 2.5% discretionary pay and a separate thing for higher education.
[1:50:41] And then they did some other benefits for health insurance and action contributions.
[1:50:49] We give education benefits.
[1:50:51] I feel like that's what it wants right now.
[1:50:53] Like you think that education is a bit of a headache.
[1:50:55] They want now.
[1:50:56] You stuck your work for you.
[1:50:57] But now if you start working with that,
[1:51:00] I'll start doing it.
[1:51:01] Do we do it like that?
[1:51:02] We do that.
[1:51:04] We have to listen to people.
[1:51:06] how we get employees so I don't want to get that the degree of national research.
[1:51:11] So let's see how the market is in here now and then you're going to pick this up.
[1:51:15] I'm just seeing it. It's more affordable than I've seen about 75 or whatever.
[1:51:20] Unless you want to. Sorry Dean.
[1:51:23] No, no, I'm just trying to be. Stay in here wherever you're coming at.
[1:51:27] Okay, this slide here is pretty much lean because this is about two weeks for the work on charts.
[1:51:34] one slide for the light. We took a look at all our positions. One by one did a market analysis
[1:51:46] of the paid ranges. So it's not actual pay. It's the range paid for that position.
[1:51:55] And if you look to the far right, we're the maximum range. We had about 38% of our
[1:52:01] that we're above average, and remember it's an average member.
[1:52:07] Hi, Bethany.
[1:52:08] It's a secret.
[1:52:10] So we took for each position, we had a city.
[1:52:13] A bunch of cities we compared to, we took all of them,
[1:52:17] and it was the average of all those cities,
[1:52:19] and that's what we compared with our average.
[1:52:22] So if you look at the above average,
[1:52:25] most of those positions,
[1:52:26] and we guess are probably related to...
[1:52:30] What you did last year for the police officers, I think most of those in the range above average, which is, we want to be above average, I think, we've got some below average, we've got a few positions that are significantly below average.
[1:52:48] I think our recommendation would be that aside from the fact that with what you do with
[1:52:56] market justice of COLA, you're probably a handful of positions, five, six, maybe we need
[1:53:03] to adjust the A-Rache for completely.
[1:53:08] So the answer is one of them, a system-finaster appears one of them, there's a couple of
[1:53:15] part of that. Probably five or six and we need to adjust the range. That doesn't necessarily mean
[1:53:21] that the bigger increase, it just sends the message that, you know, that position is worth
[1:53:29] more so much, it gives a potential to the end. Now, there might be a few exceptions if you're already
[1:53:35] at the top of there, do a range. I would suggest that you move them with the top. So how does that factor
[1:53:42] with the proposal, with new employees, you have it kind of broken out to why increases to a
[1:53:50] position, shouldn't it? Yeah, we'll get that. If I like it, that's coming up. In fact, we can
[1:53:56] go right to that now, which was a conversation. Can we get a little history first? Because I want
[1:54:02] to go, we'll see Janet Tammy recall this, because I have to turn not to want to be able to think
[1:54:09] outside of just one year. Okay. So as I recall, you two helped me. First year I got an
[1:54:15] account book. We readjusted the entire pay for the entire city and increased it to a new,
[1:54:21] we went with that. We did a big study survey. They brought in, increased a lot of the positions,
[1:54:28] and those positions had a lot of growth area. And then, that's that 29th year.
[1:54:35] Yeah, whatever, first year it was, we approved that, and we approved that compensation schedule.
[1:54:41] So we raised it then quite a bit, which was very costly at the time.
[1:54:48] And so, we have done a fairly recent cost analysis and adjustment of all the equipment.
[1:54:56] Yeah, we went from a...
[1:54:58] I don't know.
[1:54:58] This is a different way of clapping.
[1:55:01] But it ended up in the front end.
[1:55:03] Oh, yes.
[1:55:04] I'm looking for a way that we did.
[1:55:05] We did.
[1:55:05] We did.
[1:55:06] We both did.
[1:55:07] We both had a great step plan to a pay range plan.
[1:55:10] All that's right.
[1:55:11] And it took everybody.
[1:55:12] Yeah, yeah.
[1:55:13] It took quite a few people up.
[1:55:15] Yeah.
[1:55:15] But I think what we're saying is based on the revitalized study there is the last two
[1:55:21] or three years of in crazy with what's happening out there.
[1:55:26] And we're not going to be there.
[1:55:28] You know, even when we did that, you were still making time bucks an hour at the restaurant about 50 and they're paying 50 bucks.
[1:55:37] Well, that's the only thing I'm trying to say, don't make it sound like we've done nothing for employees.
[1:55:41] Well, we've done more than employees in the five, four years that I've been, three years I've been here in the mids, it's for 35 years for me.
[1:55:48] And I don't want to hold that back.
[1:55:50] I hate to use that example, but it has been significantly different than when I was here previously.
[1:55:57] Yeah, I think what we're saying out there is a question we're keeping up and I think it's, you know,
[1:56:04] if you look at these rates and then you look, I think it shows this recent study and reflecting
[1:56:12] that other city's the last couple of years and then it is doing stuff and it's a, it's a fishball
[1:56:20] Oh, it is.
[1:56:21] And so the father weighed yours.
[1:56:23] We've been at Syracuse.
[1:56:24] It's best for me.
[1:56:25] It's true.
[1:56:25] And that's why you're everyone in the county knows.
[1:56:29] And it's the dog chase.
[1:56:30] But yeah.
[1:56:30] We'll look who we do with, with thank you for working in a foot.
[1:56:34] The foot.
[1:56:35] Yeah.
[1:56:36] Yeah.
[1:56:37] We're sure we're going to.
[1:56:39] Absolutely.
[1:56:39] What happened though?
[1:56:40] It's carrying over from the police to.
[1:56:43] I've been everywhere.
[1:56:44] Everybody else.
[1:56:45] Which we said would.
[1:56:47] Yeah.
[1:56:47] Well, that's what nature.
[1:56:49] You can tough decision.
[1:56:53] I won't point in time, is it because I maybe this is just not a state or the way
[1:56:59] it's gonna be spun.
[1:57:00] Try to look like it might.
[1:57:01] Can I work if you want more money?
[1:57:05] You have to come.
[1:57:08] They have to ask for it.
[1:57:09] If you have to
[1:57:12] have that here or is it typically always just sort of decided and get the
[1:57:20] I think we've been talking to people coming and saying, we don't know.
[1:57:23] I think we've been talking to people coming and saying, we don't know.
[1:57:25] I think there are a lot of people who have been sent to that new location.
[1:57:28] And they said, here's our group plan.
[1:57:29] Here's what the council approved for Spanish and Crescent increases.
[1:57:34] I mean, we switched from the staff plan to go away from,
[1:57:37] you just get a lot of them at a step increase.
[1:57:39] Yeah.
[1:57:40] They were there.
[1:57:41] They were there.
[1:57:47] And that's where that three percent, you know, is kind of in my face, then that's where you're going to get a discretion on the Department of Health.
[1:57:57] Okay, let's go.
[1:58:03] So this is our current plan, so fiscal year 23, what you adopted last year, these are the numbers before any market adjustments.
[1:58:14] So whatever a market percentage you agree to, that will adjust these numbers up that much, but these are just the ranges of current.
[1:58:26] I don't think we need to spend a lot of time here. We've got it. You can look at it.
[1:58:32] And as we write it says, our process is that we take the existing plan and then we adjust it based on the market, and then there are a few positions we need to target.
[1:58:49] And yeah, these are going to find on here like those five in the max.
[1:58:55] So currently this is just the, this is the 2020-23 compensation. This hasn't got any other numbers included in it that the proposed date percent in place.
[1:59:07] So you have that anywhere in this.
[1:59:11] We could, that's not a, we don't have any evidence.
[1:59:15] I don't have it in here.
[1:59:17] You know, what is what's, like, with an 8% yes, but then we do have is when we start talking
[1:59:23] about the fun summaries, we have factored that in an 8% plus 103 as far as our tables.
[1:59:34] And that's in the fun summaries for their bags.
[1:59:39] And then at the bottom, these are just a few additional pay, you know, all of their compensations and programs, you know,
[1:59:49] like the city authors, just per day in the man,
[1:59:53] small children and birthsments.
[1:59:55] And with the war pay is right there.
[1:59:58] And we have included...
[2:00:00] The 10% increase to keep up with Mark, for Mayor Council. So that's part of the book.
[2:00:08] Wait, we're getting any increase? Right here. This is the proposed 24 miles.
[2:00:16] So that a little bit of a misunderstanding is everything else is 23.
[2:00:20] That's what's beginning to fall aside amount.
[2:00:23] I think we did everything on it for years.
[2:00:26] I think we did.
[2:00:26] We did what I want to say.
[2:00:27] I mean 98, 100, and a year in school.
[2:00:31] It's a circle of more.
[2:00:32] I know.
[2:00:32] I have a few moment.
[2:00:34] We've had a chance to try it.
[2:00:36] I want to say hello or anything.
[2:00:43] I should say,
[2:00:43] but you know,
[2:00:44] I see text from we're kind of going to the fourth or the end of the world.
[2:00:47] It's like I would be open to increasing the state.
[2:00:50] I think I need more.
[2:00:52] So you know, I would be open to the end of the state.
[2:00:54] Yeah, but I mean,
[2:00:56] maybe not for me. I'm sure. I just didn't depend on what we do. It's just one bit.
[2:01:03] But the same is true for your perception too. I'm actually agreeing with the council as well.
[2:01:09] I didn't even open the money, but you still have experiences in gas. And people I think put in
[2:01:14] basically, you know, and this is for future councils too, not just that.
[2:01:20] And as we did the study, we looked at a lot of cities to help cover health and church for
[2:01:26] We have a lot of them.
[2:01:28] We have a lot of them.
[2:01:29] We have a lot of them.
[2:01:30] We have a place that we're doing.
[2:01:33] What's it called?
[2:01:33] A rec center that they get a discount to.
[2:01:36] That's what we're doing.
[2:01:37] You have a discount to.
[2:01:41] You have a discount to.
[2:01:43] Six positions that probably would be book that as far as you
[2:01:48] increasing the maximum.
[2:01:50] Do you have those listed out there?
[2:01:52] I don't know, but I always get them for those of them too.
[2:01:54] Okay, so we can start our environmental.
[2:01:56] We'll do that.
[2:02:00] Okay.
[2:02:08] There we.
[2:02:10] I think.
[2:02:10] Follow the year.
[2:02:11] I think that's going to.
[2:02:14] I'll talk about.
[2:02:15] I'm trying to line our type of things.
[2:02:17] A huge piece of.
[2:02:20] The whole class or rail.
[2:02:24] I think we've been fortunate last.
[2:02:27] several years, and the following increases the trend. For most cities, the
[2:02:33] row asks them to make more than about seven or eight percent increase in the
[2:02:36] third year.
[2:02:39] The 80, and eight percent, maybe 1,000, 1,000, 2,023 percent, 2,021
[2:02:47] of the negative. 22 is a hold, and 23 is a—they're proposing a 3 percent increase.
[2:02:56] I feel really good about all.
[2:02:59] I feel really good about all.
[2:03:03] And that's it, I think.
[2:03:06] I think we've got this program going.
[2:03:08] We develop to give relationship with our brokers and.
[2:03:12] And the University of Utah is a health insurance coverage and they're a smart insurance.
[2:03:16] Great coverage.
[2:03:17] Yeah, that's great.
[2:03:19] The cost shared allocation is the city page 85% of the cost and the city and the employee pays 15%.
[2:03:25] Is that statement made it, is that sort of a requirement?
[2:03:28] Because I know, you know, an industry we used to do 80, 20, sometimes 100, now we do 50, 50.
[2:03:35] That's, that's where we've done for several years.
[2:03:38] I think it's fairly common.
[2:03:39] You can make it correctly for cities to just 100 percent.
[2:03:42] Lots of cities do 100 percent.
[2:03:45] And that's come up a few times.
[2:03:46] Do we do 100 percent on the employee and then charge for families?
[2:03:50] No.
[2:03:50] 85, 15, all the way to the land, depending on, they're not depending, regardless of what it is.
[2:03:57] What does that mean?
[2:03:59] What does that mean?
[2:04:01] The total health insurance cost of the land here, to the city, but nothing, no, I'm talking about it.
[2:04:06] In the end of the land, what does that mean about?
[2:04:09] About 300,000.
[2:04:10] That's 300,000.
[2:04:10] That's 1,200.
[2:04:12] That's 1,200.
[2:04:12] That's 1,200.
[2:04:13] Yeah.
[2:04:13] That's a really good deal.
[2:04:15] I mean, yeah.
[2:04:16] Jerry, it's one of the money that he's too good to do.
[2:04:18] Yeah.
[2:04:18] So I have a system of hours per eight hundred dollars for the sale.
[2:04:23] I'm using it.
[2:04:28] I'm getting insurance like mine.
[2:04:29] And then I have about 13,000.
[2:04:31] So that's how it works, no?
[2:04:34] It helps insurance obviously.
[2:04:35] The biggest piece of dental insurance.
[2:04:37] We offer that under the same cost share allocation.
[2:04:40] And it's been a hold for four years now.
[2:04:44] Really increases.
[2:04:45] Yeah, it is.
[2:04:46] We've got a good one.
[2:04:47] We've got a good one.
[2:04:48] We've got a good one.
[2:04:51] that's the largest one.
[2:04:54] Right, that's the largest one.
[2:04:58] I do want to mention the only thing that I,
[2:05:02] how you recommend the ad and it's not a huge cost of vision.
[2:05:09] We have vision coverage, but the employee pays everything.
[2:05:14] We have supplemental caregivers on cancer, accidental others, but the employee pays, if they want it, they pay for it.
[2:05:23] Okay, I'm sorry about that.
[2:05:24] I'm sorry for terms of skill that they want.
[2:05:25] Yeah, and if those are, like I said, it would be a sound for a cost.
[2:05:30] We do pay long term Christianity.
[2:05:33] Okay.
[2:05:36] One thing is an employee assistant plan for mental health, behavioral health issues.
[2:05:42] wrong.
[2:05:45] Um it's not really providing.
[2:05:47] But just.
[2:05:48] Yeah we've got-
[2:05:48] We got kids playing for art as a small.
[2:05:50] Yeah, but we're like, three and three.
[2:05:52] Yeah, there are always something like that.
[2:05:56] But, um, that's not really probably,
[2:05:57] I mean, it's not what I'm saying,
[2:05:59] you know, it's not what we're talking about.
[2:06:00] Yeah, you know, it's not like it's not like,
[2:06:00] it's not like, you know, it's not like,
[2:06:01] it's not like, it's not like, you know,
[2:06:02] we're talking about it like, you know.
[2:06:05] Yeah.
[2:06:06] clients for free and that's for that.
[2:06:08] Look, they're two things going on.
[2:06:10] There's the mental health crisis.
[2:06:12] You can call a crisis line and get health or areas coverage through behavioral health as part of your insurance plan.
[2:06:21] So, you go there and you go to mental health specialists instead of a regular doctor.
[2:06:26] What I'm suggesting is there's something else called an employee assistance plan, which
[2:06:33] employee the AT&T can go directly for behavioral health issues, and the cost is about $800 a month
[2:06:44] for the city.
[2:06:45] Total?
[2:06:47] Total?
[2:06:47] Or there are all employees?
[2:06:48] All employees?
[2:06:50] And I think in a long term, that's enough right now.
[2:06:54] Yeah, that's true.
[2:06:54] I think the EEP that I was familiar with in the past had a restriction, like if you were going for OCD, you could go, there's a list of EAP groups, people on their EAP, you can go 10 times to that person forward, that problem.
[2:07:19] It's not interpetual cancer, but there's something where LCD, the block was held on, which we're
[2:07:26] recommending is going to do in the digital visits.
[2:07:28] That's a great one.
[2:07:30] I mean, it's hard. It can be frustrating. I will say the past what was frustrating is that they have to lose this list of people. And they eat that one.
[2:07:37] It's just awesome times it's green arrow because these guys have signed up, but at least it's something.
[2:07:44] And we have a whole time mental help.
[2:07:47] We do the best work, like harmless.
[2:07:50] The words that this is like family.
[2:07:52] You're thinking about the police.
[2:07:54] Yeah, but it was supposed to be for all people.
[2:07:56] Maybe it's like, yeah, but not like, but not like, not like, yeah, but all about.
[2:08:01] This is like, you're, this is like, you're, this is like, this is like, this is like, yeah.
[2:08:05] Let me tell you what drove this whole thing.
[2:08:07] As we, every quarter we did kind of a snapshot of how our group is doing.
[2:08:13] It turns twice.
[2:08:16] And January 23, we had, we had 98 members seeking behavioral health.
[2:08:26] I had a 437 coverage, so I think we could do that.
[2:08:32] Oh, okay.
[2:08:34] 20 by 45%.
[2:08:35] The 25% asked it for,
[2:08:38] Victor.
[2:08:39] I'm sorry, sorry.
[2:08:40] You know,
[2:08:41] that's last year,
[2:08:43] but that was about 22 through 22.
[2:08:46] Yeah.
[2:08:47] That became a learning to be.
[2:08:49] You became a learning.
[2:08:51] What's going to be?
[2:08:52] It's going to be higher.
[2:08:53] I don't know how they would be how you actually have to benefit.
[2:08:57] Because of that, I felt the need to see what else was out there.
[2:09:01] Go ahead and pull you.
[2:09:02] So this, yeah.
[2:09:03] I don't know you want to just allow them to just have it built into their project.
[2:09:07] I can tell you how to stay here.
[2:09:09] So they don't have to get a referral for all tourists, right?
[2:09:11] I mean, it was fine.
[2:09:12] It wasn't a month, right?
[2:09:13] I think this is a no-brainer.
[2:09:14] Yeah, for sure.
[2:09:15] And there are absolutely, here's an office in Infermington.
[2:09:18] Oh, really?
[2:09:19] I don't know.
[2:09:19] Why a question?
[2:09:21] How are you?
[2:09:22] you say, 100 years, 100 a month.
[2:09:24] Mom, it wasn't a month.
[2:09:25] That was a year, like 10 years, 10 years ago.
[2:09:28] We don't qualify for this, guys.
[2:09:29] Just say, no.
[2:09:30] Oh, come on.
[2:09:31] I don't want to see you.
[2:09:32] I'm just, I, if we can all go,
[2:09:34] I'm going to go to the one I take.
[2:09:36] Oh, you can't.
[2:09:37] You guys already see one?
[2:09:39] I see you, I see one.
[2:09:41] You don't even know how to do it.
[2:09:43] You can't do it.
[2:09:43] I have a sign in the agreement here.
[2:09:47] I think I'm going to go to the point where I'm going to do part of our plan.
[2:09:50] I think that's a good fit within our benefits budget and that's a good amount of dollars.
[2:09:58] Yeah, that's great.
[2:10:00] Well, thank you.
[2:10:01] And that's a great benefit.
[2:10:04] Yeah.
[2:10:05] Yeah, I think that's a great amount of money.
[2:10:08] I don't know.
[2:10:09] I don't know.
[2:10:10] I don't know.
[2:10:13] So we're talking 8% for inflation.
[2:10:19] And yet, it's still in additional three from there, so I love you for a second.
[2:10:24] That's what we're going to do.
[2:10:28] I've seen it.
[2:10:30] It's great.
[2:10:30] That's why you've got hard going.
[2:10:32] Just to know how to do it.
[2:10:34] It's not always sentiment, I guess.
[2:10:36] I feel like they are expecting that to be honest.
[2:10:40] I feel like we're at a point and you can talk to department heads, because they
[2:10:44] would know more than I do, but just in my conversations with
[2:10:48] They see the URS rates, and they kind of know that we've trimmed in with those, and they see what other cities have done.
[2:10:56] I feel like they're kind of expecting this.
[2:10:57] You know, but they don't actually get that money, right?
[2:11:01] They talk URS, but you don't actually get it.
[2:11:05] But it comes.
[2:11:06] That's interesting.
[2:11:06] Eventually they're pretty smart.
[2:11:08] Yeah, absolutely.
[2:11:09] So, okay, so if there's an 8% cost of living in the URS,
[2:11:13] can. There's also a bill that says the max they can give in one year is 4%. So like if the next year
[2:11:20] it's only 3% then they can add one of those 8% that they did it to make you play catch up and tell
[2:11:28] you get it. But instead of that huge hit on the budget, they space it out over years, eventually they
[2:11:35] catch up. They just don't pay that. And 8% you're talking to this government. You are. You are. You are.
[2:11:42] I always support percentage of the state and it's a state of the more percentage.
[2:11:48] But let me put it as well.
[2:11:51] Okay, yeah.
[2:11:51] I'm wrong.
[2:11:52] Yeah.
[2:11:52] No, you're absolutely right.
[2:11:54] But that is the target that we have used over a number of years.
[2:11:59] We have never experienced this at one site shows increased over 4%.
[2:12:05] That's the target that we've used.
[2:12:07] Many other entities out there have used a different target.
[2:12:11] They've used the CPI Western Regional CPI, so if we say URS, that is our target, it may not be the target of the market out there.
[2:12:24] If you understand what I mean?
[2:12:25] Yeah, I don't understand the CPI was 7.7.
[2:12:27] Yeah, a little bit less.
[2:12:29] But that means in three years from now, when everyone is doing one or two percent again, we would be four.
[2:12:35] If you want to more.
[2:12:36] and so it gets tricky because if you're gonna do it that way you got to remember and you got to
[2:12:40] stand tall and it's actually easy to do it.
[2:12:44] We can do it and it's better to do it.
[2:12:48] But as it now sits, any percent everyone gets a make-recent for a year.
[2:12:54] About a year.
[2:12:54] It doesn't hurt for doing it.
[2:12:56] Yes, I know.
[2:12:58] It doesn't hurt.
[2:12:59] It doesn't hurt for doing it.
[2:13:00] It doesn't hurt for doing it.
[2:13:00] It doesn't hurt for doing it.
[2:13:05] It doesn't hurt for doing it.
[2:13:06] three depending on your level. But it's like you're a slumps next year or whatever. It won't.
[2:13:14] But that would definitely. If it weren't go down, could we keep ours this like we know we
[2:13:19] pulled a loan if we feel like we didn't throw raise it right?
[2:13:22] No, if it weren't for a certain industry, that's all we have. We have to leave a problem.
[2:13:26] That's the answer. Yeah, you are just smaller and we're not required to do that.
[2:13:31] Yeah. No, I just, it's our best work.
[2:13:34] It's just things like a great game.
[2:13:35] It's a tough little discourse for someone who doesn't need it.
[2:13:39] I mean, what you know where it is.
[2:13:41] Is there a business idea?
[2:13:42] How do you deal with that?
[2:13:43] You need it constantly.
[2:13:44] You know, John?
[2:13:46] And I have the memorable moment in the last few years.
[2:13:50] Like, I'm down.
[2:13:52] You know what I'm saying?
[2:13:52] Yeah.
[2:13:53] He also said to that is,
[2:13:53] But that's why I know the results is to have every one of these.
[2:13:56] The rates that I'm seeing on here are much lower than we pay on the government side.
[2:14:00] Like, for our employees that we have to hire, we have to pay.
[2:14:03] Yeah, so the opposite is, you know, you're making a lot less probably on this level, but you have a great pension, and you get the bump in
[2:14:12] There's the ability, there's more stability, there's more
[2:14:15] Both of the trees.
[2:14:16] Oh, that's what I've heard.
[2:14:17] That's what I've heard.
[2:14:18] Right.
[2:14:18] That's what I've heard.
[2:14:19] So it's steady.
[2:14:20] Some of it's going to take to the end.
[2:14:22] Let's just give it a go.
[2:14:23] Yeah.
[2:14:24] Yeah.
[2:14:27] I appreciate that.
[2:14:28] I appreciate that.
[2:14:29] I have a paycheck every two weeks.
[2:14:31] and you don't have to worry about
[2:14:32] we communicate because that's it
[2:14:34] we don't care about it
[2:14:36] if we don't approve a budget
[2:14:38] do you hear something on page action?
[2:14:40] is it like the government?
[2:14:42] yes, we do
[2:14:43] we don't have a budget
[2:14:45] we don't have a budget
[2:14:47] we don't have a budget
[2:14:48] we don't have a budget
[2:14:50] we don't have a budget
[2:14:52] we don't have a budget
[2:15:00] We're going to take that with two men right now.
[2:15:08] We're going to take that with two men right now.
[2:15:33] You know what I'm talking about, and I think it's really good to keep you by your lunch.
[2:15:41] Okay, let's go, guys.
[2:15:43] More super.
[2:15:44] Good night.
[2:15:44] Yeah, hi, can we go there too?
[2:15:47] So when we started nervous discussion, we talked about buttons.
[2:15:51] The funds have organized for a unique purpose to their governmental funds and their price funds.
[2:16:00] The enterprise funds, as you know, are primarily utility-based and governmental or service charge or tax-based.
[2:16:12] So the first thing we're going to talk about is general stock.
[2:16:17] I think we can go get a test or a vehicle go get a fine print when we press that.
[2:16:23] We're just trying to distract you from the bar and the reason.
[2:16:27] I'm sorry, like that was rude.
[2:16:29] Sorry, Dean, the head.
[2:16:30] We're also just going to stay.
[2:16:32] Just going to set this up.
[2:16:34] This is a long stretch.
[2:16:35] So sorry, there's been a lot of numbers and stuff.
[2:16:38] So we'll try to get through it.
[2:16:39] But this is where it all comes together.
[2:16:41] Right?
[2:16:41] We've talked about capital peace.
[2:16:43] We've talked about the personnel cost.
[2:16:46] Now, this is going to add in operations and then look at it as a whole.
[2:16:50] So we're taking about 100 pages of information, trying to summarize it, but we've gone 20.
[2:16:59] It's going to be a lot of pages looking like this.
[2:17:03] So, very well, this is good.
[2:17:06] So again, the column is listed as actual, but in 2022, this is going to be our current
[2:17:15] budget and that's the change budget. Can you actually tell me what you're saying that the difference
[2:17:21] between the actual and budget is right there in the first quarter? I don't know if it was an
[2:17:24] ordinary port. The audit report says that's the amount of budget. It was a thought of that actual
[2:17:30] money budget. It's like $19330,000, but we actually got it over $20,000,000. You gotta be careful too.
[2:17:37] Yeah, it's actual. $23 is the current budget we're working on for two different years.
[2:17:41] Okay, so that's not the 22 budget compared to the 22 actual. That's the 20 budget versus the 22 actually spent in 22 years.
[2:17:52] This is yeah, that's the sorry.
[2:17:57] That's the actual revenue that we're receiving in 2022 that's your estimated guess for what we're going to receive in 20 30 our current one and this is next. So this is three different years.
[2:18:07] So it's not always, so give me, give me a ask, what do you remember what our budget was,
[2:18:13] what we thought we would receive in 2022? How much we, or we have that, what tried to pick
[2:18:19] what, you know, how many numbers do we want to throw at, you know, what did I do sell now? Okay,
[2:18:24] we don't have to show. It's not going to show, but we could add that column in and you guys,
[2:18:29] maybe just for curious, is that our budget, do, you know, our world, I'm trying to, we're probably
[2:18:35] to have like 14,000 for our current year.
[2:18:43] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so the kind of clear it up for me in revenues, you estimated
[2:18:52] that we would get 14,330,000, that was the budget in 2023, and for 2024, you're estimating
[2:19:01] that we're going to receive for two million dollars.
[2:19:05] Yes.
[2:19:05] Thank you.
[2:19:06] Thank you.
[2:19:07] And then the difference is from time to time.
[2:19:11] So it's ended.
[2:19:12] I do a talk about what you were talking about based on the current year.
[2:19:16] So we're saying that there will be some new memories available to the city.
[2:19:22] There's a tax category.
[2:19:25] Most of that is this tax.
[2:19:27] But you were in the E5, 100,000 dollars, it was sales tax.
[2:19:35] And it was also interesting, but to point out, the last three months and sales tax have been flat.
[2:19:45] Yeah, they've been flat.
[2:19:47] So every month we've been saying increases over a period.
[2:19:53] So we still think it's a good number.
[2:19:56] And being with that, just the simple with that be people are spending as much in our city.
[2:20:04] Thank you.
[2:20:05] Yeah, I don't want to.
[2:20:06] Not really.
[2:20:06] You have to remember how sales tax works.
[2:20:10] It's.
[2:20:11] It's pointed to the one percent local option sales tax.
[2:20:15] So everything you buy.
[2:20:17] Because you want to.
[2:20:18] We're saying it sales tax local option sales tax.
[2:20:22] 50% of it goes to point of sale and 50% goes to population distribution.
[2:20:32] So if there's a dollar and local to sales tax 50 cents goes right to KZL, 50 cents goes
[2:20:39] to state and then it's distributed back based on your population.
[2:20:46] Our biggest chunk comes from the population distribution, not the point of sale distribution.
[2:20:52] So we benefit from the station parks and because half of that money goes to a bucket and then split to all the cities.
[2:21:01] So we have here in the state.
[2:21:04] More than age.
[2:21:05] Worked.
[2:21:05] Is this a state?
[2:21:06] Yeah.
[2:21:06] So it's like parties.
[2:21:07] So we have everywhere.
[2:21:09] Yeah.
[2:21:10] Yeah.
[2:21:10] Because half to that money goes to that.
[2:21:12] So small cities.
[2:21:13] They don't have a big social deal.
[2:21:15] They don't have a big social deal.
[2:21:16] They don't have a big social deal.
[2:21:19] the situation about how we load parts of your, I don't know, yeah, so we get a my local
[2:21:24] okay, I'm paying not that quickly for K's bill, would that make much of a difference
[2:21:29] to you?
[2:21:29] Oh, yeah, absolutely.
[2:21:30] Yeah, half of our own stuff.
[2:21:31] Yeah, that's half.
[2:21:32] Yeah, half up front.
[2:21:33] Yeah, yeah, half up front.
[2:21:35] Yeah, so people over the climate.
[2:21:37] And it used to be a 75% or a 25% split, but they want to more see the re out there, fighting
[2:21:43] for dollars, so they split us saying, okay, those cities don't have a big impact
[2:21:49] mommy centers, get a fit more than they had in the past.
[2:21:55] Notice that working to legislate, then you get two of sales tax.
[2:21:58] I'm taking it in there.
[2:21:59] On the food?
[2:22:00] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2:22:01] They'll just be out.
[2:22:02] It would be unfair to us.
[2:22:04] You ready to do that?
[2:22:05] They're also saying, too, and they may not affect the local office sales tax.
[2:22:10] Just the state portion.
[2:22:13] So when you're sales tax is so unfair to you,
[2:22:16] a lot, so I don't want to push out of that.
[2:22:19] I just think that the problem with taxes, we gotta get the money so far.
[2:22:25] So, okay, as far as revenue changes,
[2:22:27] kind of for services we think you're additional money.
[2:22:31] And what we've done here is we've tried to explore every option out there to shift it from a property tax to another way to collect it.
[2:22:49] We've started for service of recharge our enterprise funds for providing governmental services, like fleet and IT, and to like us our RPA, we allocate some of that to the enterprise funds, because we spend time with power.
[2:23:05] So, we have read down those formulas, and we think we can reasonably say we can charge our enterprise funds, and we've shifted more to that we've shipped it more.
[2:23:16] So the city essentially is charging enterprise funds.
[2:23:20] So I heard there are some good revenues available.
[2:23:25] I think the key thing to remember is last year in order to make the balance.
[2:23:31] Make the budget balance.
[2:23:34] We'll use the tractor and we'll use reserves.
[2:23:39] And we did it two part.
[2:23:40] We did it for capital projects.
[2:23:44] We did it for some operating costs and then the last minute we did it for additional operating costs
[2:23:51] when it was for hikes and yeah because we thought when we made the decision to not have
[2:23:57] two to five cities we thought it was going to be about seven thousand dollars or so and then yeah
[2:24:03] there you go okay so yes we'll we'll we'll we'll we'll be a little bit of ketchup you might not we'll
[2:24:12] million if you look at the combined increases of all these revenues, what does that about a
[2:24:19] amount of a million of them do you think? We're having to increase that we've tried to add
[2:24:24] into the budget on the general fund side. So, to carry you, after you remember that we got
[2:24:29] being in our audit for having too much energy. Oh no, I'm not saying. I just was trying to understand
[2:24:34] with one point two, because I remember when we made that decision and I totally agree with the decision,
[2:24:40] And we just kind of kind of followed the part of that part.
[2:24:44] I was in church.
[2:24:45] Yeah, important.
[2:24:47] I've built it this way.
[2:24:48] I don't know how many of those are increased.
[2:24:51] If there's any silver nothing at all, interest rates are up.
[2:24:55] We're getting a lot more interest now.
[2:24:57] Yeah.
[2:24:57] We're getting a lot more interest.
[2:24:59] But that also plays into the argument.
[2:25:01] Share using pump balance.
[2:25:03] The lose interest rates.
[2:25:04] So they're always.
[2:25:05] Yeah.
[2:25:06] They're always.
[2:25:07] Yeah.
[2:25:10] Okay, let's just roll in here.
[2:25:13] Could have heard of an encrypted one when we got a person.
[2:25:16] Okay, that's all you have to do.
[2:25:18] I was not talking about it, too.
[2:25:20] I was like, it's not somebody that worked fine.
[2:25:23] You know, we don't need to send lots of them.
[2:25:26] We've been asked, how do we compare?
[2:25:28] That doesn't suit us.
[2:25:29] What are we going to ask?
[2:25:31] We've been asked, how do we compare?
[2:25:32] That doesn't suit us.
[2:25:32] That doesn't suit us.
[2:25:33] you soon, because you've spent a lot of there.
[2:25:37] Yeah, we're pretty low right now.
[2:25:39] Apparently for copy questions.
[2:25:42] And this is based on Master.
[2:25:44] This is last year.
[2:25:46] This is actually a part of the experience.
[2:25:47] Are we going to be going to the world?
[2:25:48] What do you think?
[2:25:48] We're going to have some research.
[2:25:51] I did not realize that.
[2:25:52] I thought we were going to have a product.
[2:25:53] I did too.
[2:25:54] And after a few minutes, I learned this.
[2:25:57] I'm going to be a product.
[2:25:57] I'm going to be a product.
[2:25:59] Yeah.
[2:25:59] What effect did you get?
[2:26:00] I thought I could have a product.
[2:26:01] The fact that the next slide, this is sales tax per capita, this is as a June 30th, 22.
[2:26:13] So we looked on the state tax commission website, total sales tax revenue, and then we divided it by population, and we looked at the sales tax per capita number.
[2:26:25] You're a little wild.
[2:26:28] Costco.
[2:26:28] You're a typical average.
[2:26:30] Even if you have Syracuse who's going to put up, they're going to keep going up.
[2:26:35] Why, why is that?
[2:26:36] Just development.
[2:26:37] You're a little scared.
[2:26:42] You're a good Costco.
[2:26:43] You're a people, but Costco.
[2:26:47] You're a Costco.
[2:26:48] I know.
[2:26:49] You got it.
[2:26:50] It's a bit of a tape of safety.
[2:26:52] You don't even.
[2:26:52] And if you, you know, if you, you know, a 10-year-old in the approach or a $3,000 difference
[2:26:57] times $3,000 to $3,000 people, you know, that's what we have a lot of good significant.
[2:27:05] What we're working on, guys, we're getting a turn to the test.
[2:27:09] Okay, so this is the first one that we've talked about the 8% plus 3% merit if we've budgeted
[2:27:24] that full amount, this is the cost to do that. If you have a 30C apartment and with the
[2:27:35] total cost is,
[2:27:39] I guess no exception is on the count, so that's the 10 percent.
[2:27:46] So, this budget, your total for 6, 30, 20, includes 11 percent increase, 24.
[2:27:59] That includes the eight percent of the perception of those people who are already popular.
[2:28:06] They shall get your non-congenerate.
[2:28:08] Understand, but did you budge it for that?
[2:28:11] So it's still in the budge.
[2:28:12] Eight percent of money down there.
[2:28:15] And how many do you put it in?
[2:28:18] In fact, there's in people that are at the top.
[2:28:20] They wouldn't get the three, but everyone else who was eligible would get the opportunity.
[2:28:25] So overall, it's 10% to all those who are capable.
[2:28:30] Where's the 1591 next page?
[2:28:33] 500 per page.
[2:28:36] Oh, sorry.
[2:28:36] No, I know.
[2:28:37] I'm just, oh, so this is, so we're not even doing this right now.
[2:28:42] One deficit of 73.
[2:28:44] That's the one that just came to a part of the year.
[2:28:47] Oh, okay.
[2:28:47] That's just, we haven't done the deficit.
[2:28:49] I have a question on the city manager.
[2:28:54] I thought that was coming down.
[2:28:57] That's the food.
[2:28:58] This is the food.
[2:28:59] This is benefits and way to answer.
[2:29:02] This is just pay.
[2:29:04] This is all the benefits included in that number.
[2:29:07] If it would have been under the previous wage,
[2:29:11] it would have been higher than what the house wanted to change.
[2:29:14] Okay.
[2:29:16] So it is coming out a little bit.
[2:29:18] Okay.
[2:29:19] Okay.
[2:29:20] I think that's the first round box.
[2:29:21] Next thing we've done to is operating.
[2:29:24] You can see by telephone, data department, what is this?
[2:29:27] A lot of data box.
[2:29:30] And honestly, most of these are just increases that we're seeing, for example, information services.
[2:29:42] Remember that when you can buy work project and you kept it for 20 years and we have
[2:29:46] You know, so it doesn't happen anymore.
[2:29:49] Yeah, I know.
[2:29:49] So subscribe.
[2:29:50] Yeah.
[2:29:51] We're going to club with them.
[2:29:54] And there are 20% increases.
[2:29:56] They're not 3% increases.
[2:29:57] We're going to do this.
[2:29:58] We're going to do this.
[2:30:00] All right, we're here, we're here as most of the most experienced situations as well.
[2:30:04] We're here as much as possible.
[2:30:06] Is this speaking, sir?
[2:30:08] So you're still in press line?
[2:30:10] We're just in the last day.
[2:30:12] I just hope you guys can.
[2:30:12] Yeah, so this is the thing, we've heard of your action.
[2:30:15] I'm not going to let you talk to any of you, right?
[2:30:17] Well, we haven't, I don't think you tried to work for it.
[2:30:19] I think we've done a good job.
[2:30:21] I don't think we've done a good job.
[2:30:21] I remember working with you.
[2:30:22] Can you remember, how much work did you three do you think?
[2:30:23] Yeah, I think so.
[2:30:25] Okay, I think we're hearing you guys out here.
[2:30:27] That's what I'm talking about.
[2:30:29] This is ours, we kind of want you to see the eyes of mine.
[2:30:34] That's what I'm talking about.
[2:30:34] It's getting, I see.
[2:30:36] Okay.
[2:30:37] It's trying to control us.
[2:30:37] Yeah, let's try that.
[2:30:40] Thanks.
[2:30:41] All right.
[2:30:42] There is one thing that you're doing.
[2:30:43] We've added.
[2:30:45] And we had a cyber security on it.
[2:30:47] Yes, we did.
[2:30:49] Yeah.
[2:30:49] We're one of 17 cities to participate.
[2:30:53] And nothing wrong.
[2:30:54] No, we scored okay for a while.
[2:30:58] And I think we're just a little bit of a lot of cities out there, it's certainly better.
[2:31:04] But there still was one recommendation for a program called Artteak Wolf, with monitors
[2:31:13] traps on a non-going basis. That's about $90.
[2:31:18] Thank you.
[2:31:19] Yeah.
[2:31:19] Every year.
[2:31:20] I'm a little bit lonely.
[2:31:22] I'm a little bit lonely.
[2:31:23] You know, all the juniors that just put the program in there.
[2:31:27] They get along very quickly.
[2:31:29] I know.
[2:31:30] Here's your bill.
[2:31:31] Every year forever.
[2:31:32] Hey, we're excited.
[2:31:33] I got a question.
[2:31:33] I want to fall behind.
[2:31:35] I'm trying to keep up with this.
[2:31:36] So I'm going to go back to this first year.
[2:31:38] You should.
[2:31:39] But like, you've got some of the like public works in here at 778,000.
[2:31:43] And that's general fun.
[2:31:45] So you're not.
[2:31:45] Is that including the enterprise?
[2:31:47] No.
[2:31:48] It's just kind of a question.
[2:31:49] It's just kind of a one-on-one portion.
[2:31:52] And so would enterprise funds be in a different one
[2:31:56] or would enterprise also cover some of it?
[2:31:59] We had an OK one.
[2:32:00] All right.
[2:32:00] So that clears that nine of price funds in this one.
[2:32:04] What's the difference between the first page and the second one?
[2:32:09] What's the second thing?
[2:32:10] Do we need to see this title right here?
[2:32:13] Personal.
[2:32:14] So that this is personal.
[2:32:15] I didn't catch that.
[2:32:16] employee came back to it. The next one is operating. So non-capital and then the third one will
[2:32:24] be capital next we'll talk about. So those are the three main categories too.
[2:32:29] So it's playing that to me like like it's a city manager. Okay I get the first page that's the
[2:32:34] way doesn't benefit us yes. Then I go to the next page. She says operating non-capital but just the
[2:32:42] stock rate paper, so, oh, flies, post-clips and whatever you got a picture of, that's included.
[2:32:49] So the 18,000 is on top of the, yes. These are all in the distance, in the horizon.
[2:32:57] In a medical shock, in the area, every very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very much.
[2:33:05] Okay, operating, and then, you take that, yeah, how is life?
[2:33:11] It's just an action.
[2:33:12] It's just an action.
[2:33:13] It's just an action.
[2:33:13] It's just an action.
[2:33:15] People are what we do all day.
[2:33:17] So now they don't know.
[2:33:19] Did that make sense?
[2:33:20] Yeah.
[2:33:21] The next one is Levi said it was capital.
[2:33:24] And this is a summary of the detail we looked at in the first part of our meeting.
[2:33:29] Right.
[2:33:30] So for example, part of our meeting.
[2:33:32] Right.
[2:33:33] So for example, part of our meeting.
[2:33:34] So that's nothing over 4,000.
[2:33:37] All right.
[2:33:38] Something like equipment, turtlenee, tentacles and...
[2:33:43] I don't want to use that.
[2:33:44] I don't want to use it.
[2:33:45] I don't want to use it.
[2:33:48] That's six thousandth of coffee machine, legal or IT.
[2:33:53] That's switches and servers.
[2:33:56] Stuff like that.
[2:33:57] The detail that we looked at on those first few slides.
[2:34:00] We looked at for capital.
[2:34:07] Next one is combined.
[2:34:09] Sorry, it's a very silly question, but if I tackle these dimensions, we're over 4,000.
[2:34:16] There are two expenditures for $100,000.
[2:34:22] Sorry, that split.
[2:34:25] Planning and zoning and building is one copy machine that costs 6,000.
[2:34:30] We said, what are these?
[2:34:31] This is one of the few that I have in my mind.
[2:34:34] Good great question.
[2:34:35] I don't even think about that.
[2:34:37] But really, that's one machine.
[2:34:38] Oh, we just, we elevated it. So, I'm probably going to allocate it on that one.
[2:34:43] So, here we are in the case, the band we use, here's our other band we use.
[2:34:51] We're going to have work, stand up to us.
[2:34:54] Hopefully, if you can perform it all, we can do it all.
[2:34:56] So, tell us what that means, as far as capturing, how much of a rate increased is that we point to.
[2:35:03] A property to actually.
[2:35:05] So, you know, you hold the rate,
[2:35:08] And when you give a citizen number, still use a $400,000,000,000,000,000,000.
[2:35:13] We need a six hundred.
[2:35:16] Okay.
[2:35:16] If we were to this plug that right now, all property tax increase, it would be a 42% increase.
[2:35:25] And then the dollar amount would be $19.38 a month per a day.
[2:35:29] 600,000,000.
[2:35:30] total annual increase for each resident. He'll be $232 annually increases.
[2:35:38] So instead of costing $500 to the case of, without the amenities, it would be $7.
[2:35:44] Yeah, the total right now for a 600,000 house is $5.48 and that would increase to $7.81 a year.
[2:35:53] increase until they're in case of 50% increase. No, no, no, no, no, no. There's a 42% increase.
[2:36:00] Of 47, 48, 548 to what? To 781. 781 a year until the main case goes and have the minimum
[2:36:07] in use of the case in the city. 20, 20 years a month. No, and again, what you're saying, the costs,
[2:36:15] but also in one year, you're doing half of what they've been having.
[2:36:22] which last year 50% increase, which is why I think it's a good idea to do a tier of every year.
[2:36:27] Yeah, but even still, like even if we've done it last year, where it was 1.2, then we would be talking about our two years.
[2:36:34] We would double the cost of living here.
[2:36:37] Kind of, isn't it two years ago?
[2:36:39] Did it over the two years ago?
[2:36:41] If we had done it last year, the numbers this year would go less.
[2:36:45] Oh, it would be a 1.2, so it would be, it would be a 1.1.
[2:36:48] Right.
[2:36:49] I guess.
[2:36:50] So, can you ask a big hit for sure if you've done this?
[2:36:52] So, what about the same?
[2:36:54] But, so, for the course of two years, you have to pay $150 per cent.
[2:36:59] What do you mean, what are you giving that?
[2:37:01] And it's just, can I keep giving?
[2:37:02] If we have proved it, raise your, raise your, raise your, prove the ball of the buzzer.
[2:37:06] You're a negative course.
[2:37:08] But that is also not included in the employees.
[2:37:11] It's not included in the grocery store.
[2:37:13] Which is $890,000 per cent.
[2:37:14] This is, this is all.
[2:37:17] This is all.
[2:37:17] This is something.
[2:37:20] We're trying to give that a story, yes, so all, like what you said you were talking about isn't going to be included in the budget.
[2:37:27] The new position for investors.
[2:37:34] That's the break of that number. That's exactly right. Okay. No, I know. I'm saying, though, it doesn't include the new employee, which is another 900 grant.
[2:37:45] Correct. We're seeing, like, not a shortage. So just for clarification, we're basically two million, the other nine six thousand.
[2:37:53] That's the gap to get.
[2:37:55] Yeah.
[2:37:56] I was under the impression that we would be, would be, yeah, much less than that.
[2:38:01] And a third of that in the right.
[2:38:04] Well, if we don't, you know, trying to cover the pretty issue of fun now,
[2:38:09] then we'll be on the other side.
[2:38:11] So that's probably what we want to talk about.
[2:38:14] What do you want to talk about?
[2:38:15] How much do we have on a fun balance right now?
[2:38:17] I'm sorry for general fuzz.
[2:38:21] I'm sorry for general fuzz.
[2:38:23] I'm sorry for general fuzz.
[2:38:25] I'm sorry for general fuzz.
[2:38:28] General fuzz.
[2:38:30] Seven fuzz.
[2:38:31] Right now we have seven fuzz.
[2:38:33] Well, not as a June June 30 2022.
[2:38:37] Not factoring in like her here.
[2:38:39] We're actually going to be courier.
[2:38:40] We're down about two today.
[2:38:42] We're going to be courier.
[2:38:43] I mean, we factored in that plug last year.
[2:38:45] And so currently we're going to dip into our fun balance of that seven five.
[2:38:50] Do you think that will be getting up?
[2:38:53] This is a good one.
[2:38:54] It's hard to say.
[2:38:56] We're still going to pass for money to pay for the public truck.
[2:39:02] Okay.
[2:39:03] Okay.
[2:39:04] It's a favor.
[2:39:05] Maybe maybe I'm only one that I want to see this.
[2:39:08] But you gave us the numbers that this would cost.
[2:39:14] on the 600,000 dollar home, you know, the 71,000, all that stuff.
[2:39:22] We've got 1% into these.
[2:39:25] Can you give me though?
[2:39:28] Here is a 2,000, 1.5 million.
[2:39:33] So, what is this job, what it would be like if it was 90%.
[2:39:39] Oh, you're talking, like, lower, high, high, high.
[2:39:41] I just like to see what coal it got all like I have a number what each percentage we
[2:39:46] coal it is so
[2:39:51] So right yeah
[2:39:58] about you want to see what you want to see
[2:40:02] I want to see what the coal right because I mean I mean again I would love to get out of
[2:40:11] How much is it in there because we got the freedom that's down. We can't just. Yeah, and again, we don't want any decisions today. Right.
[2:40:19] You know, it's just pretty good to think about and digest and talk about the next time.
[2:40:24] Let me tell you where I'm at. A lot of information stood out a lot more to go.
[2:40:28] I don't want to just get this in months. This body at a council meeting.
[2:40:33] I don't care if we have to have forward sessions going down there.
[2:40:36] I want to be able to, we get a council meeting and we barely get to talk and so I don't want it to be.
[2:40:43] This is the 10 of the budget is what we propose adopt or not.
[2:40:47] That's our very last slide is where we go next.
[2:40:50] And we want to go this section.
[2:40:53] Exactly.
[2:40:53] Okay.
[2:40:53] I'm going to move this along.
[2:40:56] Where are we now?
[2:40:57] Where are we going to go?
[2:40:59] We're going to go this section.
[2:41:00] We're going to go this section.
[2:41:05] We're going to go this section.
[2:41:05] We're going to go this section.
[2:41:08] So that was General Fund summary, that's just General Fund.
[2:41:11] We'll switch to the other funds and it'll be simpler and we'll try to cruise through.
[2:41:18] This is RDA.
[2:41:20] Sure.
[2:41:21] So this is the redevelopment agency.
[2:41:24] Our only redevelopment current is the Smith that we did.
[2:41:29] When was that?
[2:41:29] I mean, years ago.
[2:41:31] So we are benefiting from that plan.
[2:41:33] we get about 135,000 in property taxes from that RDA, and most of it just goes into fund balance.
[2:41:46] And current year, this 62,000, 50 of that is projected for a new design on mainstream belief.
[2:41:54] So that will have to set some design standards for mainstream, which will definitely be the best study.
[2:42:00] And then the remaining is just some additional operating for different
[2:42:05] partnerships and professional technical costs.
[2:42:10] So, what does that RDA expire?
[2:42:12] Do you want to carry one here?
[2:42:15] Or if we get the capital on 20 million,
[2:42:17] we'll go to the end of that.
[2:42:20] Any questions on, man?
[2:42:22] That was.
[2:42:23] At least I couldn't.
[2:42:26] MBA, the primary reason, just in a bowl, this is ARP.
[2:42:32] We've talked about that.
[2:42:33] That was fun if it came in and we're doing those major fibre projects.
[2:42:38] All we're stripping money won't be just in the pool.
[2:42:40] We got all the money last year and I were just spending it on the fibre and
[2:42:45] that's putting all that in.
[2:42:48] And also we pay for stewards, position, just, you know,
[2:42:51] I don't know, it's very minus to fund the police to help position.
[2:42:56] So that's a good point, because it's a four year gap
[2:43:00] with the RPA money.
[2:43:03] So that position is funded with the RPA.
[2:43:07] When I get the RPA expires, we'll just...
[2:43:10] And then we'll just put it in here.
[2:43:12] Then we have time to decide if that's up to me.
[2:43:13] We're three months.
[2:43:17] That comes out of that bucket right now.
[2:43:24] We're talking about, well, you saw the public, we were doing it here in the sources of the road utility feed, we've classed the road with the gasoline tax, the transportation, the interest income, the other amount of money we're seeing anticipated coming in, and we would talk about projects with that project.
[2:43:50] Do you want to work with the press with the operating includes one of the major sort of data?
[2:43:58] So it leads to me like this is a wash.
[2:44:01] Yeah.
[2:44:01] One of them is at a wash page.
[2:44:06] Which is absolutely right?
[2:44:10] The only thing that would be different is that we had some extra money and decided to do an extra row
[2:44:16] project or something like that.
[2:44:21] Okay, okay, next one, I'm going to add a little bit of RAM, so you've talked about RAM.
[2:44:28] We created a new special revenue fund, we're going to just FYI, so it's not part of the
[2:44:37] general fund, it's now it's on separate revenue fund and track these things.
[2:44:45] When you look at RAM taxes, right now there's plenty of time to hide it in that.
[2:44:50] We're turning about for 50.
[2:44:52] We have any equipment for this year.
[2:44:54] We kept it artificially low.
[2:44:57] We'd recommend you continue to do that.
[2:45:00] Has that, we'll just have to go back to the reserves, so when we get a major project, we'll have those homes in the open.
[2:45:07] So what we've, what they agreed to do, just the other night, that 35,000 is to fund.
[2:45:16] How do you say say that?
[2:45:18] We'll talk about it.
[2:45:18] We'll talk about it.
[2:45:19] We'll talk about it.
[2:45:20] It's 10,000 for a HACA program.
[2:45:23] It's a HACA.
[2:45:25] It's a group that's a cultural group that they have.
[2:45:29] So they do like a fair or this will help fund the event that they have, you know, it's
[2:45:38] native land.
[2:45:38] You know what it is for Mexico, you know, the best cheese in the world.
[2:45:42] One of my favorite places in the entire world is of all the Mexico.
[2:45:45] Is that their cheese or the best cheese?
[2:45:47] Yeah, and they do a huge event, and that's a huge event.
[2:45:49] Yeah, I can park you there.
[2:45:52] And this will fund it as a, I swear around.
[2:45:55] They've done it all the wrong in the sense, so this is, well, that's great.
[2:45:58] So this is a good thing.
[2:46:00] This is 10,000 for Wahaqa, 4,500 for Francis P.
[2:46:05] Catholic School Program, a thousand dollars for the harmonic winds of you.
[2:46:10] 10,000 for the case with historic preservation.
[2:46:14] What are they doing with that?
[2:46:15] Historical markers.
[2:46:16] It says, I don't know what you're doing.
[2:46:18] Oh, I do know.
[2:46:20] Yeah.
[2:46:20] They were thankful with you.
[2:46:22] That's basically they're going to go to the,
[2:46:25] like 12 or 13 of the historical sites and things that have like a plaque
[2:46:32] in the front, plaque, some front, so like when you walk in front and you can read about like
[2:46:38] what you know, if they're worth this year, then 9900 or music all the time.
[2:46:44] That was an angel. No, the angel things are going to be separate.
[2:46:48] Okay, and the online museum is for what? That's what I'm seeing in, and I'm not exactly
[2:46:55] I think they're creating, they're creating and that we have a virtual, like they're documenting and taking pictures and all of them, like kids and all of them.
[2:47:04] It's really interesting to see that.
[2:47:05] There's a kind of concept.
[2:47:06] People can store these as well.
[2:47:08] And it's sort of getting why did you go over the light and can't we guess you're something to do it there?
[2:47:14] And then the capital, we talked about the four farms park, fast basketball courts, 225.
[2:47:24] Yeah.
[2:47:25] by with the rail. My trip was a restaurant. Yeah, but you might touch it and
[2:47:32] play it, right? I'm going to put it straight. You're like, where, where, where,
[2:47:36] later comes the clenched string. And yeah. There's an injury there that's, it's real
[2:47:40] life store. They're going to put in a, a restroom there for the trail. And then eventually
[2:47:46] partner maybe like, you know, they might put like a little bit of a little bit like a little
[2:47:51] like track by track there to escape part right there.
[2:47:55] And I talked about that thing,
[2:47:57] talked about that during things that would just be down the road.
[2:48:00] It would be down the road.
[2:48:01] But now that you've got the bathrooms,
[2:48:03] it just makes that much easier.
[2:48:06] I think I get rid of the food.
[2:48:08] Yeah, that's it.
[2:48:09] MBA.
[2:48:10] I think.
[2:48:10] The third is my marriage.
[2:48:12] I know we talked about for the police station,
[2:48:17] So you know, this is my good, come to the general fund.
[2:48:23] So you know, when we're looking at all these projects and we're trying to figure out
[2:48:29] where revenue is good to realize when these things expire, when you're thinking about other
[2:48:39] is like a fire station or those types of things because you can only have so many bonds
[2:48:47] out in one city at one time and you've gone out of hand. Okay, you find out what you have
[2:48:53] as a spinning problem. And so you need to look at these and these and we have to do. We have
[2:49:00] bonds for those but you probably should plan your next bonding expenditure or needs based on
[2:49:08] the way you get a revenue source that's going to come back that's going to go away from somewhere else.
[2:49:13] So you're creating revenues with revenue source in the way to these.
[2:49:17] Because creating a revenue source anytime you bond is basically attached in areas.
[2:49:23] Yeah.
[2:49:23] Yeah.
[2:49:24] Separate from what this $1.2 million you're talking about.
[2:49:28] Are two people in the world?
[2:49:29] I think that's a good point too.
[2:49:32] I mean, I would love to get to the point of the city to where we have.
[2:49:36] We are meeting all of our needs, but we are putting away funds and increasing our road,
[2:49:42] funding, increasing our sidewalk for a couple of days.
[2:49:47] So we actually see real more cooking and improvement across the city.
[2:49:53] And just in the audience, we're not trying to look in reality.
[2:49:57] That same exact issue came up about six or eight years ago.
[2:50:00] And that council, I think you were on at that time, created the road fund.
[2:50:05] more than it was to see road fun, general fun, and money, the only and creating that road impact
[2:50:12] fee has made it so we've been able to do so much more, you see the big lows, because it's a
[2:50:20] unbelievable amount of no losses, because the road is a lie drive, so that's not your
[2:50:34] There was a response period of time, and they just said no, it was time for a period that would give you that.
[2:50:41] There was, there was a lot of aches on it. They were going to say, you know, right.
[2:50:47] Okay, congrats to us.
[2:50:49] We're still paying to a fire station, a fire truck, we're sorry.
[2:50:54] I mean, we have to have some more of those annual payments that we're making.
[2:51:01] So this amount too.
[2:51:04] So just a question because you and had a proposal for who ambulance in here, what is the old one paid for when you're one more year?
[2:51:14] Twenty-four and twenty-four and then it paid for both of us. So then we would have a revenue source at that time.
[2:51:21] And that's why I think as we start looking at ways to make this work.
[2:51:24] We would kick out that ambulance and we'd say it's way to here and it was to a least purchase of 80,000 here rather than 400,000 over here.
[2:51:34] Oh yeah.
[2:51:35] And I think it was a good kind of thing we want to have.
[2:51:37] Right.
[2:51:38] That's a good idea.
[2:51:38] We'll say it in a couple of years.
[2:51:40] And just because I think you had this class so much longer.
[2:51:44] I know it would be nice to say.
[2:51:47] You could go a couple more years.
[2:51:48] You're still at a revenue source,
[2:51:49] that you could build up in a capital agreement fund for that ambulance, rather than just immediately,
[2:51:56] and that's where I'm trying to find out where some of these are expiring and we need to replace.
[2:52:02] And I think people back and look at that capital with casual, we showed the expiration rate.
[2:52:06] If it drops off, then that's a nice one. Because I hate, I mean it seems like
[2:52:11] if you drop something off and you don't your market to stay there, then it gets pushed into the
[2:52:19] I come up with all the pain, but I think that's a good action for everyone to put that on pause
[2:52:26] and leave it right out with that and develop.
[2:52:35] We have a talk about this, but this is the capital projects fund. So that 845, that's the summary of kind of the detail we looked at earlier. That's 650,000 for the off-center group replacement.
[2:52:54] $150,000 for the playground replacements, $45,000 for wellness park trail.
[2:53:04] That's that A45.
[2:53:07] This 207 is what we transfer out of the capital, to the debt service we just looked at
[2:53:12] to pay for that.
[2:53:14] To pay for the Pioneer Park, so there's the money coming in.
[2:53:18] Here's it here.
[2:53:19] It is coming out of the capital project fund.
[2:53:24] I'm sorry, capital, you brought me to you.
[2:53:27] What is it, Sam?
[2:53:28] That's where we're at.
[2:53:29] The capital projects fund.
[2:53:31] I want you brought me.
[2:53:34] So,
[2:53:38] the questions on that.
[2:53:40] I do have a question.
[2:53:43] You showed this here and just a question as to what?
[2:53:49] This is the revenue.
[2:53:50] And it's 1,152,000, yes, and you're showing
[2:53:55] expenditures of 1,250,000, but yeah, these are impact fees.
[2:54:00] Is everything that you've got included in this impact fee eligible?
[2:54:05] The only things in this impact fee eligible are the,
[2:54:10] the hot towel oil crossing playground,
[2:54:13] that's 150,000.
[2:54:16] And I guess the williness and hark train,
[2:54:18] We're starting to find your public support in front of you.
[2:54:22] So yeah, that 2.07, that gets transferred over, that's also in packed fees.
[2:54:27] So really the only thing not in packed fees on this is the 650,000 of the
[2:54:31] ops center where we've been placed in here.
[2:54:34] We've noticed that here.
[2:54:36] It's built into that 845.
[2:54:40] So you go back to the app and we'll start with, you'll see the 650 plus in your detail
[2:54:44] Well, you're getting the one million 502 right here, yeah, but that's coming from
[2:54:54] recapital listing.
[2:54:56] Okay, from Fun Balance.
[2:55:01] From the beginning, you're going to transfer in $580,000 from Fun Balance from the previous
[2:55:08] to get to this revenue?
[2:55:11] Yes.
[2:55:13] And I wanted to give you a chance for a bit use new stuff like that.
[2:55:18] Okay,
[2:55:21] yeah.
[2:55:21] Okay, here's a little one.
[2:55:22] We've got fuel cleaner, I want to find just minor items.
[2:55:28] Continue there.
[2:55:31] Looking at a, I'm going to call that,
[2:55:34] Criminal cremation garden.
[2:55:36] A section of the cemetery will be designated for cremation.
[2:55:40] So this 25 right here capital is to start the design for the cremation garden, which will have additional costs over the next year.
[2:55:52] It's like four phases down the road.
[2:55:54] I feel like a pudding green.
[2:55:58] There's going to be some, it's going to tie into this thing that we're talking about.
[2:56:02] We're going to have that angel in the middle of the ceremony for that.
[2:56:07] And we had to dive a little bit, you know, young, and then we'll not have anything else.
[2:56:12] And ultimately the green, green meetings, we coming much more popular and it saves, saves, saves, saves, saves, saves, saves, saves, so it's a good, it's not just the initial start of the design.
[2:56:22] Well, the next several years, there'll be more, you have to build that.
[2:56:27] My build will be a part of the course.
[2:56:29] Let me try again.
[2:56:32] So I guess you use the eyeballs.
[2:56:35] Yeah.
[2:56:35] The question I'm talking about is something that you've included in the budget because you're
[2:56:43] planning on doing it or is this something that is a wish that we would have in the future?
[2:56:50] No, it's in the budget because we're planning on doing it.
[2:56:52] All right.
[2:56:53] So it's not like those items there.
[2:56:55] We're cutting out.
[2:56:56] You know, it has option to be taken out.
[2:56:58] I think that again, it's perpetual care.
[2:56:59] Most of you are going to be interested in what you're using to pay for this.
[2:57:04] Okay, the last one we're going to have funds is ligament, that's where we have ligament, we are
[2:57:10] in interest and then get the case under the cost of the data and the library, we're talking
[2:57:16] in the services of the case of the library.
[2:57:20] And how much longer will that go?
[2:57:22] It's longer than that.
[2:57:23] It's longer than that.
[2:57:24] That's a good opportunity.
[2:57:26] And are we just having the interest that we make off of it is what has been, so it will never go away.
[2:57:32] We take the corpus and then each year we add 10% of our interest earnings to the corpus
[2:57:41] and then an interest earnings are available for the or what like when we gave the 20,000 to the library.
[2:57:48] So it's on both. Okay, that's all governmental funds. Now we're switching to the enterprise funds.
[2:57:56] on the first one here is water, and this one's a little bit different because on one page
[2:58:01] we've got the fundamental revenues and the expenses. So you can see the candidate budget
[2:58:10] column and water sales are about 3.6 million dollars a year. We have a closet here, and
[2:58:18] this one is well. So, we're going to continue to give out the attributes plug in order
[2:58:25] to make the way to find the order. And a lot of it is capital X, that appears to be
[2:58:33] the order. I think a given example, the retainer and the retainer and the funbelts.
[2:58:40] Okay, that's funbelts. It's actually money that's sitting there like a savings accounting
[2:58:45] into our money if you have to pay for a kind of project.
[2:58:48] We can't enter our enterprise fund to just retain our regional fund, right?
[2:58:51] Center right now.
[2:58:52] Yes.
[2:58:52] We have a million four in there and you're done by an on-taking,
[2:58:56] 400, 700, and 60.
[2:58:58] Right now we have 1.2 million of impact fee balance,
[2:59:01] a water, and 4.2 of unrestricted balance.
[2:59:04] So there's six million in the benefit.
[2:59:07] So that's what we're plugging through the year.
[2:59:09] We're getting some of our reserves to make the budget work.
[2:59:14] But keeping in mind that down the road we've got those two big projects, that's not an inhibition to that team of inclusively, actually.
[2:59:23] This is the fifth.
[2:59:24] This is all.
[2:59:25] This is parable.
[2:59:26] Yeah, this is where I get really, really confused.
[2:59:34] Me too, because there is literally 4 million dollar to then spend in a fun balance that's not actually earmarked.
[2:59:44] So anywhere.
[2:59:45] That is it.
[2:59:47] But 4 million.
[2:59:47] Are you talking 4 million?
[2:59:48] Just under water.
[2:59:50] Just under water.
[2:59:52] That is under water.
[2:59:53] There is 4 million dollars that is not spoken for for anything.
[2:59:59] With more.
[3:00:00] I say a scope of water. The goods come down the pipe and water. And what are those projects? I don't even know they are. You do what they are, too, and what they are.
[3:00:07] What if there is anything I can tell you, is tell your kids, don't be brain surgeons, tell them to buy higher units in the road construction.
[3:00:16] That's because they make more than heart surgeon doing more.
[3:00:19] So tell your kids to do body equipment.
[3:00:22] I'm going to that business.
[3:00:23] So I think the takeaway is, I mean,
[3:00:26] you look at the tenderies, you can find balance,
[3:00:27] you see money's there.
[3:00:28] We have to think more than just, I get it.
[3:00:31] Again, we have to,
[3:00:32] but
[3:00:35] how you just pack on it.
[3:00:37] I don't know what replacing just the waterline
[3:00:40] in 200 North is going to cost $4.5 million.
[3:00:44] So you're going to see the heart engine, you're seeing the offer.
[3:00:51] Yes, they have replaced the secondary water for me. I guess this was just the concern looking at our balance and looking at, you know, the fact that we have to plug six animals at 600,000 in the current year.
[3:01:06] It should probably be a discussion of increasing water rates if we're going to commit to these projects next year's.
[3:01:15] there's no way to pay for them without bonding and then you're talking about adding
[3:01:19] additional bonding to the bonds we are, you have the regular source would be water not
[3:01:27] I get it, general fund, and there it is, I mean it's a revenue stream to make that bond
[3:01:34] we have to raise water rates to make that revenue stream and then you lower, I'm going to
[3:01:44] Okay, what's the tough decision? I'm going to make. Yeah, 0.5 million. Okay, so right now, we're not right now. We're not deciding.
[3:01:52] I don't have time in the right now. We're just right now. We're doing 500, 700 and we're almost 600 from the, from the, from the 2 million.
[3:02:00] So what I want to do is I want to make sure that I have the end of this, so right now I'm going to put down 5.2mm of unrestricted tons.
[3:02:10] I want to put that. I want to have that number. I have all these one more done.
[3:02:14] It's actually six, it's four point two hundred publicities are, one point two impact fees, right?
[3:02:18] What impact does that work between 32 and 22?
[3:02:21] And that's as of, yeah.
[3:02:22] So that's not included.
[3:02:23] And that's not included.
[3:02:24] What I want you to do about it was six eighty that's been coming out of the one point.
[3:02:27] And the third you can do the 10 tower, right?
[3:02:30] Yeah.
[3:02:30] You look at water cash right now, as it marks the reverse of sitting at 2.3 million.
[3:02:36] 3.4 million.
[3:02:38] You know, and you're committing to those projects this year with when you pay 200,000 for the
[3:02:43] design costs. You're committing to those 4.5 down the road. I guess that's what you need to be aware of.
[3:02:51] So this year we're paying it for the costs that design design.
[3:02:55] So the question becomes, if you're not a good judge, it's just something to be done.
[3:02:59] Yeah, why would we pay the design at right now? We don't know that we're going to do the 4.5 million.
[3:03:05] I'm sorry.
[3:03:06] I don't like it, Josh. I'll tell you. You've got to do something.
[3:03:08] You've got to do it.
[3:03:09] Okay, but you're telling me 4.5 minute, just for the waterlight.
[3:03:16] That is nothing to do with replacing the curb, the go to the road.
[3:03:19] They ask all of all that stuff.
[3:03:23] So that's what I'm getting.
[3:03:23] So that's where I'm getting.
[3:03:24] He's never seen.
[3:03:26] I believe he did.
[3:03:27] We hope they are.
[3:03:28] I hope they are too.
[3:03:30] I mean we hope.
[3:03:31] You don't pay for that.
[3:03:32] But it's hard for me.
[3:03:33] I mean what you're asking me to do though.
[3:03:37] Here now.
[3:03:38] you ask me to make my budget decisions based on that for a point of something million in two years.
[3:03:44] Right.
[3:03:44] And to you, design your work, I don't.
[3:03:47] Is that absolutely down the whole range structure?
[3:03:50] You just have to factor in your work.
[3:03:52] I'm going to the roadside.
[3:03:54] That's the end.
[3:03:55] You're going to run up the main tool.
[3:03:57] You're going to talk to the times three up to 11.
[3:04:01] That's it.
[3:04:02] To the boundary.
[3:04:03] That's just one really important thing.
[3:04:06] That's the upper part.
[3:04:07] more partners or maybe more.
[3:04:09] We could be a part of that.
[3:04:11] Hey, Dean, just walk back to this.
[3:04:13] I wonder if some of these, if we do have like another work session, some of these big projects coming out and maybe it would be awful to have a director come and say hey,
[3:04:24] oh, you know, you're here for what you're asking?
[3:04:26] Yeah, I'm so glad I'm a better understand.
[3:04:28] Yeah, I love you 52.
[3:04:31] You got anything?
[3:04:32] You think he has anyone who's wondering?
[3:04:33] I don't know.
[3:04:34] I'm going to one 30.
[3:04:35] Let's have a sit.
[3:04:36] Good question.
[3:04:38] Oh, we have to just be on that.
[3:04:40] All right.
[3:04:41] Well, yes.
[3:04:42] We'll get a chance to come in.
[3:04:43] I can do it.
[3:04:44] Sir utility.
[3:04:45] Nobody can help.
[3:04:46] Most of it goes second.
[3:04:47] So we're just doing.
[3:04:50] Let's see.
[3:04:54] Here's another point.
[3:04:57] Excuse me.
[3:04:58] Excuse me.
[3:04:59] It tells me.
[3:05:00] It tells us initially it looks like we're going to have to raise our rates again.
[3:05:08] So retain their names, that means we have 2.6 right now that it's actually nothing.
[3:05:14] That's what we're using.
[3:05:16] I'll tell you the balance now.
[3:05:18] We're using retain your names.
[3:05:21] But current impact feed balance is 2.5 million.
[3:05:27] The unrestricted balance is 9.2 million.
[3:05:30] So 2.5 and 90 percent.
[3:05:32] As of June 2022,
[3:05:35] we're going to tell you those numbers again.
[3:05:37] Impact fee balance, 2.5,
[3:05:43] unrestricted,
[3:05:43] unrestricted,
[3:05:44] 9.2.
[3:05:45] We don't know.
[3:05:45] It's 9 months ago.
[3:05:47] That's not factoring in this 2.6 plug.
[3:05:50] We just put in there.
[3:05:50] What does that mean then?
[3:05:53] It means that it's going to,
[3:05:54] we're going to use that.
[3:05:55] Okay, some of the unrestricted.
[3:05:57] Probably.
[3:05:58] Well, so we're down about $2 million.
[3:06:01] This year.
[3:06:01] So, we're already dipping into those balances, but those are the most current
[3:06:10] version of the numbers we have,
[3:06:14] they're not even the years numbers, though, and I
[3:06:16] don't realize that we were behind for like two or three months, but for eight of the
[3:06:20] months, we were black, not in the red. So, what's the year? It's getting worse no
[3:06:25] matter. Well, you know what kind of those things that you want to know, year to
[3:06:29] 2223? Yeah, we're two million in the hole right now. Okay, two million in the hole from what you had budget
[3:06:35] It's a purchasing power for the entire year. Not budget. It's just comparing actual revenues to actual expenditures
[3:06:42] Yearday, we're two million negative for 23. That's a more safe as if Mark's 30 first and you're kind of just from January to then
[3:06:50] All right
[3:06:51] But you are two two years a lie to March to the on March. Okay, actual numbers. Two million. All right
[3:06:58] Okay, that way a little bit.
[3:06:59] And actually, one July, we actually had two point, two point sampling and nine point sampling.
[3:07:05] As of, yeah, at the beginning of one July, 2020, our balance is where what I told you.
[3:07:11] Yeah, we're going to go to the end of the week.
[3:07:13] I'm living in a half, yeah, I'm living in December, December, December, December, December, December.
[3:07:17] Yeah, I mean, but for the year, we're doing million down.
[3:07:20] So we're about to laying down, and then for next year, we're factoring another.
[3:07:24] And then it's going to have six laying down.
[3:07:26] So it's showing healthy balance.
[3:07:28] So that's what I mean, you can sit here and...
[3:07:30] I was going to include what the right increase is, is that help level up?
[3:07:36] We'll see a catch-up in a bit, but you know, five percent versus.
[3:07:42] Yeah, we've kept you in that five percent projected.
[3:07:45] Yes, just included.
[3:07:46] Yes, just included.
[3:07:46] This area, when we lost a bunch of money, there were two power plants offline.
[3:07:51] The war was, oh no, I got all that.
[3:07:54] But I mean, you didn't do anything.
[3:07:56] But even then we're still down to a million bucks a year.
[3:07:59] Take it all of it into consideration if they think I'm back up with that and we can give it us
[3:08:03] Yeah, that's what they're saying
[3:08:06] So and those are preliminary numbers like we're going to go throw out it. We're going to do here in the adjustments
[3:08:11] Those are good to change
[3:08:13] Yeah, yeah, that's what we can see
[3:08:20] Okay, you
[3:08:20] So by the way, he's gonna make an awesome call.
[3:08:23] Sorry.
[3:08:24] What's the status quo possible?
[3:08:26] And also under any three-month delay,
[3:08:28] I think he will be on the cruise ready and cruise.
[3:08:33] I'm sure if you begin to care about it.
[3:08:35] We're really, literally, pushing forward...
[3:08:38] Yeah, we can fit that on my ass.
[3:08:39] We could do that.
[3:08:41] Okay.
[3:08:42] We could be trying to make that any way
[3:08:43] as we could be on this country.
[3:08:45] Yeah, this is it.
[3:08:46] If we can make that work.
[3:08:47] You can have this if you'd like.
[3:08:47] There are a couple of weird questions back.
[3:08:49] I mean, we have three-year vision this way, I think. I think it's great, we're going to point you something about it.
[3:08:54] Yeah, I think that's how we work with the weeds.
[3:08:58] We're kind of tired of hearing that, yeah.
[3:09:00] Kind of as we build for Davis Weber.
[3:09:04] Seeing you read about it and there you say before.
[3:09:07] We don't build for that.
[3:09:08] We're going to call it a personal chart and for it.
[3:09:11] Okay.
[3:09:13] Santation.
[3:09:17] Those things are going to go up to, just say no.
[3:09:20] Yeah.
[3:09:20] They're going to have to use their mouth, they're better.
[3:09:24] They've got a shortfall of about 2.1 million.
[3:09:28] Yeah.
[3:09:28] We're passionate to us.
[3:09:32] I think we're actually predicting right now.
[3:09:35] We're doing a bit of a loss.
[3:09:37] And then they're off.
[3:09:38] We're going
[3:09:44] to do something just a little bit of it.
[3:09:48] That is, that's the transfer.
[3:09:53] You know, we say we allocate RS, our salary to the enterprise funds.
[3:09:57] I think that factors that there might be some, but that also includes transfers.
[3:10:06] Yeah, we're plugging a positive and positive in this time, so this is a good number.
[3:10:12] Oh, yes.
[3:10:12] I don't know where to pick up.
[3:10:15] So we have to just figure out, no, I'm going to treat it to be less than, you know, less.
[3:10:20] We're plugging revenue because we don't have the revenues so we don't have the revenues.
[3:10:23] I think that's still your answer.
[3:10:25] I'm going to give in.
[3:10:26] Put a month in the hotel.
[3:10:27] You're right.
[3:10:28] I'm sorry.
[3:10:31] Okay.
[3:10:33] Yeah.
[3:10:34] But we're not going to do it.
[3:10:35] Okay.
[3:10:36] Here's our last slide.
[3:10:38] That was 559.
[3:10:41] What do you guys do?
[3:10:41] I'll go there next to you.
[3:10:42] We suggest having as many work meetings as we can.
[3:10:45] Yeah.
[3:10:45] I think everyone's okay with that.
[3:10:48] And then the next work meeting will be called, you know, where we should do a silly ask that is
[3:10:55] We come today, I'm not afraid he's worked for you.
[3:10:59] Make it.
[3:11:00] We do the same thing and we'll bring the party to one by one.
[3:11:03] Yeah, these people work.
[3:11:04] If they need to come in on a Saturday, I'll come in on a Saturday.
[3:11:07] I'll come in on a Saturday.
[3:11:07] Yeah, I will tell you.
[3:11:07] This is how we work enough.
[3:11:09] Yeah.
[3:11:09] Yeah, too.
[3:11:10] And I have a chance to say, John, and where are you?
[3:11:13] Well, I think he's got a job.
[3:11:15] I mean, I know the fact that I'm going to be 10.
[3:11:18] I think I'm going to let my son in, then I'm a black school.
[3:11:21] We've tried to do it, but I don't know if I can do it.
[3:11:23] We can talk about Friday, that's what I mentioned.
[3:11:25] We've been trying to do it.
[3:11:26] We've tried to do it.
[3:11:27] That's what you guys just worked at.
[3:11:28] So it's all been trying to get us better.
[3:11:31] But, you know, I got a couple meetings.
[3:11:33] We're just trying to do more things.
[3:11:34] This week is our office week, but it's okay.
[3:11:37] If we just start doing a little bit.
[3:11:38] No, we don't.
[3:11:39] How late did you go mid-diet by that?
[3:11:41] We would do.
[3:11:42] I can't.
[3:11:42] I can't.
[3:11:43] It's just like, you know, because I can be fun.
[3:11:45] There's a word after a filter.
[3:11:48] What you look like.
[3:11:50] I don't think we have to.
[3:11:52] See, you know, and deadline is May 18.
[3:11:55] And even then, that's not our deadline.
[3:11:57] We can just atten it.
[3:11:58] We can play it with fun balance.
[3:12:01] And then, and then.
[3:12:01] And then.
[3:12:01] We can play it with fun balance.
[3:12:02] And then.
[3:12:02] And then.
[3:12:03] We have to decide whether we're going to take the taxation.
[3:12:06] You know, we're going to take that.
[3:12:07] We're going to take that.
[3:12:09] We're going to take that.
[3:12:11] So it sounds like for sure you want to meet next Friday with department heads, I think they're kind of planning on it.
[3:12:18] I'll give you my own grades, I remember.
[3:12:20] Can we talk up?
[3:12:22] But can I, is there a direction?
[3:12:25] I feel like we need to give you a direction.
[3:12:27] Yeah.
[3:12:27] A little bit.
[3:12:28] And what I want you guys to chime in.
[3:12:30] This is just Mike's one fifth of the Council directions.
[3:12:33] is no new personnel, you come back to us and tell us how we're going to make up this 2.2 million dollar deficit.
[3:12:43] Okay. So we asked, I have a view, okay, is that you sit down with each department next week and then you ask that same question.
[3:12:54] How come in, should we best do that?
[3:12:56] Will they come in?
[3:12:58] Okay.
[3:12:59] Okay.
[3:12:59] So let's say 880-30 or 839-930.
[3:13:03] Okay.
[3:13:04] Okay.
[3:13:05] It won't be a good one.
[3:13:06] Yeah.
[3:13:06] This is good.
[3:13:09] Okay.
[3:13:13] So let's take a look at the same thing.
[3:13:16] We'll look at capital, just for them.
[3:13:19] We'll look at personnel just for them.
[3:13:23] We'll look at operating.
[3:13:24] This is their apartment.
[3:13:25] Just for each department.
[3:13:27] Okay.
[3:13:28] I think we'll reach out to them beforehand if we have.
[3:13:32] Oh, there's a question.
[3:13:33] Oh, yeah.
[3:13:33] Go ahead and check it out.
[3:13:34] If you're in the end, OK, because I know Shane had a really issue.
[3:13:37] I haven't talked to the department head about him being there.
[3:13:40] No one.
[3:13:40] No, but they're going to come to us.
[3:13:41] OK.
[3:13:42] Because if you want to make a job for before.
[3:13:44] Yeah, yeah.
[3:13:45] Yeah.
[3:13:45] OK.
[3:13:45] But now we're doing the interview process.
[3:13:47] You see, manager.
[3:13:48] What?
[3:13:49] Sure.
[3:13:49] It's not a significant amount of time.
[3:13:51] I don't know.
[3:13:53] We're going to be very anxious.
[3:13:56] They want to get there.
[3:13:57] They're just to explain to you as members from their side.
[3:14:01] Good.
[3:14:02] Have a question, John, that's what I'm talking about.
[3:14:04] Well, it's just, I mean, it's a thing.
[3:14:06] It's a totally side of the ocean.
[3:14:08] And like, one of the reasons I would never be a good boss,
[3:14:11] because I could not fire somebody.
[3:14:15] Like, I would hire, and I would just keep hiring more people.
[3:14:19] So you'd move out and put it in the sink?
[3:14:22] But I guess that, like, so that's why it's like,
[3:14:25] we kind of stick my stomach even asked if it's like we can fill any positions or you're losing stuff like this or
[3:14:43] you're talking about layoffs but we're not asking that there's not less work we're just asking them to do more.
[3:14:52] So, I don't think there's any, I'm not looking at any kind of issue with reduction in force, I'm saying instead of adding.
[3:15:00] So we're asking you to do more in what we've been told already our people are overworked or whatever and they need more people, I guess. So I'm not looking at any kind of a reduction.
[3:15:11] I'm not at all. I'm not at all. I was trying to figure out, because I remember very simple with what we're hearing what we're seeing is they won't more people, not less people. And so we're just going to try to take those people they want and add it to what they then personnel they have.
[3:15:26] I don't know.
[3:15:27] Is that important?
[3:15:28] In the corporate world, what's happening right now is that it's the same amount of order.
[3:15:34] And the same amount of work that they're laying in people.
[3:15:36] I don't know that.
[3:15:37] Yeah.
[3:15:37] I mean, like, metronic just, you know, sweeping away up like 10 people.
[3:15:42] But in Metroni, my division.
[3:15:44] Is there less work being done?
[3:15:45] Because there's not many people in capital city.
[3:15:47] It's just, they're just eliminating things in their city.
[3:15:51] Marketing positions there.
[3:15:53] The things that we provide for people in cities.
[3:15:55] You can't. There's never a reduction in that. It's always an increase. As soon as you get one more family to live in the city, you have more people to take care of.
[3:16:05] And that's fine. I just, you know, it's kind of like, we don't understand. We rely on our directors to look at it and say like these guys are working hard and hopefully they're taking like somebody appears to not be working as hard to be able to be like,
[3:16:22] We need to work hard.
[3:16:24] You know, I just like, if we got somebody, like you said at the record, the director sees,
[3:16:29] well, this guy's, you're busy, but maybe instead of 40 hours, he's busy 30 and we're
[3:16:34] doing, maybe I can help shift some of the work to this guy and make him a little bit.
[3:16:38] Yeah, we don't go through that kind of thing.
[3:16:40] Yeah, so I just can work really well.
[3:16:43] Yeah, you go.
[3:16:44] That would be a guy.
[3:16:46] Okay.
[3:16:47] Well, that's good.
[3:16:48] What concerns I have?
[3:16:49] Like the capital equipment request, there's so much equipment,
[3:16:55] but my job might be probably a good point of that.
[3:16:58] Ambulance, it's just things to scrutinize,
[3:17:01] and to, yeah, it's hard to see all this.
[3:17:03] I can guide you, it's like we've given you some
[3:17:05] where each one of these is a line item.
[3:17:08] That is story.
[3:17:09] And we can pull out of this line item.
[3:17:11] What do you talk with the part much?
[3:17:12] If you want to look at every line item,
[3:17:14] you have the detail for capital.
[3:17:16] the operational is more summer and you'll have that detail but if you want to say
[3:17:20] why is this going up 100 grand and you can drill down it out and still like every
[3:17:25] point every ask needs to be addressed from the department heads and yeah but I understand
[3:17:30] my image caution that if you're going to start a question in like a
[3:17:34] a $6,000 copy that's going to be two things then we're talking $2.4 million
[3:17:41] Yeah, I have a threshold of what's with this.
[3:17:44] No, I understand that, but when you add everything up, it's 2.2 mil.
[3:17:49] With all.
[3:17:50] That's what I'm saying.
[3:17:50] When you're adding it all up, you're still there.
[3:17:53] So if you can get down at that level of weed,
[3:17:57] I think there's a, I have to trust my department heads.
[3:18:01] And I, you know.
[3:18:03] Yeah, I see orders.
[3:18:03] And I need to put the heat on.
[3:18:05] So, you know, for maybe a Ferrari thing,
[3:18:07] but there's a lot of it is okay and I'm totally understand the capital purchased planning.
[3:18:16] You know that here's what industry says, this is what we found that these things are going to
[3:18:20] last for extra 100 years. So I need to put in my blood to get down there. And I think that's what they've done.
[3:18:26] We now it's fair question. Can I go instead of five years, I'm going to say it's, yeah, we're even
[3:18:32] And in a year, you're a space Air Force guy, how often do you see this space, you know,
[3:18:39] a space equipment at last a decade longer than they predict.
[3:18:44] Where's your point?
[3:18:44] I think I think I can tell you the three things, some of these things are said because everyone
[3:18:50] should be annoying.
[3:18:51] We have that much of the depth that I do think the $6,000 dollar things are.
[3:18:56] That's not going to make it a bit under deficit.
[3:18:58] No.
[3:18:59] I under no.
[3:18:59] I think you said I'm that careful, but to direct the work before I'm going to have to go.
[3:19:03] I agree with the advocacy, you know?
[3:19:06] I don't, yeah, and I don't, I mean, I really think it's capital for this aisle, see.
[3:19:10] I really don't see that much here.
[3:19:12] Well, no, I guess the point I'm trying to make is, yes, as a council, we shouldn't be in it,
[3:19:16] like going through every scene, I think.
[3:19:19] But is that we, there's so many requests on here, and I don't know what the cop here's like,
[3:19:24] but I guess that we go to the manager, right?
[3:19:26] to determine, should it really be on here?
[3:19:30] Is it absolutely necessary to do this?
[3:19:33] Yeah, for my view, 90s, 90s, 90s, 90s, I wouldn't be on it,
[3:19:36] and we'll say, actually, we necessarily want about that.
[3:19:39] And everyone's the only thing I did is, it's necessary to maybe
[3:19:43] we can shift it, doesn't take good in necessity.
[3:19:48] And we just have to make some major changes there.
[3:19:51] Well, what you're talking about, Nate, this stuff that you're talking
[3:19:54] about the ambulance, all that stuff. That does not affect the 2.2 that we're looking at.
[3:20:00] I'm going to do this all the time.
[3:20:01] I don't think that's enough for me.
[3:20:03] But there is no 2 because it's not an ongoing event.
[3:20:07] I don't know.
[3:20:07] They're more than going to an ongoing event.
[3:20:09] Yes, we do.
[3:20:10] Christian, I think you would say that.
[3:20:12] You'll see that sort of, you know, that's important.
[3:20:14] That's nice.
[3:20:15] Oh, it's all right here.
[3:20:18] You should take practice at conversations.
[3:20:21] What is one of these?
[3:20:25] Yeah, the point I'm trying to make is more creative analytics, but my product is, I would rather not see this on here all together and have that factored in the next year we're going to have pretty simply off.
[3:20:42] It does like that as a direction to give us the work of our conversation and that's just one wish that we've done
[3:20:54] There's no fingers, that's a you know, I guess what I'm saying is I would like to be flushed even a little more
[3:21:03] That's hard looking all I think they know you can do is trust us to experience
[3:21:09] And I'm going to look at the capital of interest in my honestly other than shifting a year or something.
[3:21:15] I don't know, see anything that's really, I mean, I'm seeing a lot of that.
[3:21:20] Yeah, it was.
[3:21:21] How do you taste that?
[3:21:22] And the prices seem fairly reasonable for what puts into them.
[3:21:26] I think I go back to then it's all in the Hong Kong policy like you talk in that 150 version of an EV.
[3:21:33] And that's that's a discussion I think.
[3:21:37] We thought we were going to be better and it was just all for something.
[3:21:43] Yeah.
[3:21:43] We thought we were going to be better and it was just all for something.
[3:21:46] So the direction you're going forward to have much.
[3:21:49] And we want to see if we can.
[3:21:52] Before we start talking about truth.
[3:21:53] And I think you don't can permanently.
[3:21:56] I think that's it.
[3:21:57] You can probably find it with any jar.
[3:22:00] And then we'll flash this one back up on here and say.
[3:22:03] What direction do you want us to do? We've got a capital personnel operational ready to gather increases use of them all
[3:22:10] But I really like you to when you have your department and meeting this week
[3:22:15] Tell them say
[3:22:17] Give us how how they expect us to pay for this to point to me
[3:22:22] I want to know what they think
[3:22:23] I'll tell you what they think it should raise taxes
[3:22:25] That's all that's not the answer I'm looking for that's the only answer they got
[3:22:31] That's not what I want to see at two problems. I understand you can probably do any taxes, lower, but I also want to see cats at the same time. I'm not there saying, if we don't beat them, the level of service that you're asking us to make, and they're co-hosted, and so should we do that?
[3:22:49] It wasn't like kind of what we're asking them to do, is that way we have to make the budget.
[3:22:53] They bring what they think is a feasible budget for their department and the committee.
[3:22:58] They've already left stuff off.
[3:23:00] Yeah, yeah, they could give you a list of, and I wish we could have them better put the wish list out.
[3:23:06] Oh, yeah, they're working really hard to do the job.
[3:23:10] This is my great presentation.
[3:23:11] Give me a chance to respond.
[3:23:13] I think several of these have been years and this was fantastic.
[3:23:16] Yeah, we really tried to make it simpler.
[3:23:19] We're just going to work for the last year.
[3:23:22] We're just going to work for the last year.
[3:23:23] So this is so much easier in my life coming with people.
[3:23:25] Right on.
[3:23:27] So thank you.
[3:23:27] All this is done.
[3:23:29] Yeah.
[3:23:29] We can do this.
[3:23:30] I don't like it.
[3:23:31] Yeah.
[3:23:31] Down together for babies.
[3:23:33] Yeah.
[3:23:34] It's like you actually took it out.
[3:23:35] Thank you.
[3:23:37] Well, thank you for taking time.
[3:23:39] So one time we wanted to show you four.
[3:23:41] And then you got to go in and say,
[3:23:43] I know I have one from eight to nine.
[3:23:45] I don't know if I have the one from,
[3:23:47] but between 9 and 11 that I can either miss or you know.
[3:23:51] So I just, I don't have that schedule.
[3:23:55] Do you want to email the entire group?
[3:23:57] Yeah, when will you have that schedule?
[3:23:59] Five minutes after the call.
[3:24:01] Okay, okay.
[3:24:02] I just, it's my day off, I don't know.
[3:24:04] And then it will send us out of calendar
[3:24:06] until it's going to turn to it.
[3:24:08] We'll kind of shoot for nine o'clock or 10 o'clock.
[3:24:17] I'm going to have like an hour for this department.
[3:24:27] I don't think that's a power of 40 minutes.
[3:24:29] It sounds like we need it for hours.
[3:24:31] I think like legal is 15 minutes.
[3:24:35] Josh, we want to flyer just because we want to go through it.
[3:24:38] Josh made one full hour. She forwarded me one full hour. Yeah, she hurts and even I think we had a schedule of 30 to 45 minutes
[3:24:47] But if you have I mean we've questioned if you want to ask three yeah, we've covered
[3:24:55] Okay, so you won't be able to be in
[3:25:08] listed, because obviously it's a priority, it's listed, but could they even take it a step
[3:25:13] further to rank? You could say if you had to cut some water or could that be told to them
[3:25:20] to prepare for the B9 gas? Like, just have it in your mind, like, what's absolute loss for the city?
[3:25:27] What do you mean? What do you mean? I don't know what they included. I hope they do.
[3:25:36] because you're not going to be mad though, you know.
[3:25:39] You're going to be kind of nice here to hear what you're doing.
[3:25:41] Because you're not faster and they have with you their budgets.
[3:25:44] And we don't see that process.
[3:25:46] I think everybody's done that for against us.
[3:25:48] Yeah, I think the problem from our end, too, is like absolutely none of these questions
[3:25:53] have anything to do with questioning trust.
[3:25:55] How do you do this?
[3:25:56] You've been there.
[3:25:57] But when we go out and face the public,
[3:26:00] it's not that I don't trust the director,
[3:26:02] or I need to know everything that they go through.
[3:26:06] And that they tell me, point blank,
[3:26:08] there's absolutely nothing we can't do without
[3:26:10] that we put up with this.
[3:26:12] Then that allows me to confidently go out
[3:26:14] to my neighbors and say, that's why I see you.
[3:26:18] And so you're the one to have tough drum.
[3:26:21] But if you want to have cancer, you're done.
[3:26:24] Well, in reality, this 600,000 is maybe 25% of the half
[3:26:30] Break things and then really in the beach water bit more.
[3:26:33] We're safer. My husband.
[3:26:35] Yeah, like that safer reason.
[3:26:37] Personally, you don't hit us a lot, high, is that?
[3:26:39] That's okay. Yeah.
[3:26:41] I think that was a lie.
[3:26:42] No, don't we like every night?
[3:26:43] We're talking about.
[3:26:47] You're a degenerate.
[3:26:48] We don't.
[3:26:49] You can't buy a house.
[3:26:50] We have to do it.
[3:26:51] I don't have to do it.
[3:26:53] We have to do it.
[3:26:55] I don't have to do it.
[3:26:56] I don't have to do it.
[3:26:56] I don't have to do it.
[3:26:59] I don't have to.
[3:27:01] We'll use what it was on, but the amount that this or you see is like, whenever I get
[3:27:05] making one, we'll try to read the county, we'll get the county, we'll get the county
[3:27:08] and we'll read it on the value of your house, we'll always wait less than what their
[3:27:13] salary is on. Because they use, like, six years, seven percent factor. Yeah, it's a percentage
[3:27:21] that they use of what, you know, they're praise value, they do market, they do market value,
[3:27:27] to do a system on you. And residential property assessed value gives 55% of mortgage value.
[3:27:34] Yeah. So, and don't end the increase, though, when we talked about like an increase in
[3:27:39] truth and taxation, when you said it would be, were you looking at the assessed value or the
[3:27:44] market value of 600,000? The assessed, it's based on the assessed value. So, doing a 600,000 was
[3:27:53] actually like doing a 1.2 million dollar. It would be more, that would be more recent.
[3:27:57] Yes. Okay. Thank you. Is that what you said?
[3:28:01] Make a sense. Yeah. So it would be a radically, it could be a little bit less.
[3:28:05] I mean, you know, not everybody's living in a million-dollar home in case well.
[3:28:09] I mean, I think that they're assessed by you on their longest problems.
[3:28:12] That was a little bit more.
[3:28:13] Well, sort of like, can we need to don't turn it forward?
[3:28:16] That is a good point.
[3:28:17] Yeah.
[3:28:18] I would think he's based on a self-taught even.
[3:28:20] Maybe nice, you know.
[3:28:22] You would have to be a self-taught.
[3:28:24] Yeah.
[3:28:24] Is that right off the bat, then it could be a proof that I'm going to try to hear.
[3:28:30] I'm trying to think what you have is what you're looking for.
[3:28:32] It is.
[3:28:33] It's a treatment taxation ban.
[3:28:34] I don't know if it's just market value or something.
[3:28:36] This is market value.
[3:28:38] We'll look.
[3:28:39] Okay.
[3:28:40] Well, regardless of the ideas we need to know,
[3:28:43] when we say that it's going to be a percentage increase of what, you know,
[3:28:49] You're the taxes assessment, it's 600,000, that's it, but if you're market value, but they don't have
[3:28:56] even sent out the market value, like I've never seen on my documents saying, like here's the
[3:29:01] market value, like here's the market value.
[3:29:05] It's look, it's like it's always way more than what they're.
[3:29:08] I don't know what a crack that.
[3:29:09] No.
[3:29:13] I think it would be helpful for us to hear the directors to know what steps they've taken
[3:29:26] to do more without, because I think it helps us prepare for the truth and taxation.
[3:29:34] So we can speak to, like, this is why the staff is smart.
[3:29:37] The boys have done a lot of last year in addition to speaking to the boys.
[3:29:47] I'm going to emotionally close the major.
[3:29:51] Bye.
[3:29:53] Bye.
[3:29:54] I'll start for you.
[3:29:55] Okay.
[3:29:56] Hello.
[3:29:58] Here's a stop for you.