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and especially budget time. So, at least

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around. the cheese sat

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>> Just some housekeeping items as a

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reminder. These little devices um that

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are green, those are what are recording.

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keeping the minutes. So

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So we always start with our mission

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statement as everyone's becoming

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familiar with but uh enhance the present

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and future quality of community life in

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Kazville through the delivery of

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effective efficient and equitable

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services. It's all about we deliver

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services as that's our mission city. uh

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we do that with the employees and I

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think something that I always try to

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remember is that the mission that we

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have to deliver services to residents to

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enhance quality of life is done with

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employees and so it's not a uh mutually

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exclusive type of thing. It's it's we're

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all in the in the same boat together.

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>> Yay Marin.

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Okay, I will be passing around two

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buckets. Please feel free to take one

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types of M&M's. Regular, mini.

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mini, peanut. They're all different and

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everyone probably has a favorite or has

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even found themselves in the mood for

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peanut butter with almonds as their

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usual go-to. But at the end of the day,

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they're all M&M's. And let's face it,

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they're all pretty darn tasty. Budgets

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and city government departments can feel

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a lot like that. We all have different

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priorities and focuses and expertise and

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perspectives, but at the end of the day,

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we are all M&M's.

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Unique individuals on the same team with

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the same goal to enhance the quality of

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life in Tesville.

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>> The second bucket holds fidget spinners,

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specifically gear fidget spinners. These

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gears represent all the Keysville

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all part of the same machine. It takes

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every single one of us in this room,

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mayor, council, Jason, department heads,

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plus every single employee to keep the

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system of Quesville City moving. May we

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go into today's budget meeting

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respecting each other's opinions,

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keeping an open mind, and being

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strategic with our decisions while

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letting the city mission statement guide

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us. To my fellow department heads, thank

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you for all of your focus,

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collaboration, hard work, and wisdom to

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make this budget what it is. It was very

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clear how much you care about your

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employees and the city throughout our

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discussions. [clears throat] I'm very

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proud of the hard work we all put into

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the budget this far, and I'm excited for

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mayor and council to see what we have

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prepared. We welcome your feedback and

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your questions and hope that you feel

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the care and dedication that was put

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into this budget. I'm proud to be on a

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team of every single one of you. And

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you. Also, I figured if today gets too

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stressful for anyone, at least we can

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have a sweet treat and our OWN PERSONAL

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done. I've been through so many budget

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part processes over the years and this

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year has been really cool. Um, not only

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has there been a ton of hard work by and

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we really been very creative uh with the

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approach and I hope you'll see that

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today when we go through try really hard to look at the needs of the

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city but also be very conscious and and

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thoughtful creative on how we can fund

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the needs that we have without blowing

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up you know the budget or or doing a

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major truth in taxation As everyone

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knows, last year we had a 32% truth and

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taxation that was approved by the city,

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but because of some technicalities, new

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legislation at the state level, many

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cities throughout the state didn't get

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their truth and taxation, including

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Cavesville. So, we kind of started in a

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hole this year, 32% um what was budgeted

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this year did not come in. And so,

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that's kind of our starting point uh

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just to fund what we've already, you

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know, are are paying for as a city. But

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there's been a lot of thought and

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creativity in in finding out how to fun

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things. Um, we're not going to get there

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all at once, but uh, we have a plan and

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get where we need to be and and take

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care of our mission statement. So, next

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fund today, personnel, things like that.

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wouldn't be until April 17th. That'd be

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a Friday the 17th, getting everybody a

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break. Um and that's when we would be

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talking in April 17th about enterprise

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funds and things. Uh

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through tenative budgets and then we're

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looking at a budget hearing um at the

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first council meeting of June and then a

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an adoption of the final or truth and

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taxation um by uh by August. So there is

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some new state legislation. We're

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mindful of that as well. It's tweaking

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>> Why would you I do have a question. Are

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sure. Thanks, ma'am. Um, did everyone

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is that is that it? I don't need to pass

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» Thank you.

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and uh budget objectives. Of course, we

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Operations, employees, capital. It's all

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about investing and in taking care of

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our residents. We do that by ensuring

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that we have we can meet our expected

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levels of service. We're training and recruiting, retaining the types of

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employees we need to to to provide those

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services and of course stay ahead of the

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maintenance curve with our capital uh

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and infrastructure needs. Next slide.

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personnel at the end. Although personnel

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is the biggest chunk, the most important

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piece of the budget. Any city's budget

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budget, personnel. That's because cities

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are service organizations, they they

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provide services. And so, we thought

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the general fund, and then get into

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special revenue and other parts of the

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budget. So with that, uh, next slide,

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these positions before. This has sort of

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made for new staff. Uh, over the last

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those requests trying to, you know,

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added two staff. Um, as you all know,

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net net uh increase this year. We've got

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those needs. I I think I'm going to draw

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your attention to a couple of things

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negative one there on utility billing

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supervisor. That was Holly's position.

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filled, but we're not filling it. Um

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found a way to to manage without that

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two cash receiving clerks up front at

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the front counter. Um for those of you

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which of the two, but uh we are

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eliminating one of those positions. Um,

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positions, we are looking at adding a

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deputy fire chief. That's been something

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that's been talked about for many years.

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fire department. Again, 184,000 is what

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deputy fire chief. Um we're also looking

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administrative assistant Ariel who many

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of you know extremely qualified capable

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um young lady and she Ariel is currently

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working 30 hours a week. She's it's a

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benefited position. The only change

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benefited position. So, we're not

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to get some support in admin, especially

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trying to fill positions, advertise,

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recruit, and and uh especially on

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payroll. Right now, we just have Brenda

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uh Bugmire that just basically runs

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payroll as a oneman show. And it's

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extremely hard for her to ever even just

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take a vacation because payroll's got to

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be done every two weeks like clockwork.

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And so [clears throat] having an extra

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person there that can backfill that can

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help with that would be extremely useful

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as well. Um it's been a need that uh

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Dean talked about for a long long time.

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Um and we'd like to be able to fill that

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need by

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um part of is is eliminating

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[clears throat] a couple of those

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positions and then creating a new

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position that we think would be a better

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allocation of our resources. Um, I will

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say that even though the proposal is for

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a full-time human resource specialist,

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what we would actually do there is go

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out and recruit for a part-time uh

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person. And if we can fill that need

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with a part-time person, um, then we'll

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do that. But in case we just don't get

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the the kind of level of of expertise

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and and quality that we need in a a

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part-time staff, we want to be able to

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go back and then recruit for a full-time

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if if needed. But we're we're hopeful

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that we can fill that with a part-time

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position. So that's that's [snorts] the

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staffing proposals. Um any questions so

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far?

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Okay.

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>> I do have one question. I remember a

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conversation where maybe someone from

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the front counter was going to help with

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payroll

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sort of split those responsibilities. Is

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that not

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>> um that? So good question.

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We find that that the level of expertise

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needed to do HR and pay her is a little

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bit more than what we think we've got

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currently.

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>> Okay.

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» All right. So, overview of personnel.

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Um, we've done a couple things. Marin

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has and and Parker, but uh in the past

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when we've done our budget projections

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for personnel, we've we've always

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budgeted um the cost for health

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insurance based on every what everyone's

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eligible for. Everyone in the city is

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eligible for a family plan. And the

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majority do have family plans for health

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insurance, but some don't. And um what

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we found is sometimes we're a little

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over um we're a little higher than we

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need to be in our but in our

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projections. And so we tried to refine

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that a little bit and um Miranda and

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Park have kind of dove in there and uh

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and and try to budget this year based on

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more of our actual costs for health

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insurance. So you'll see some I guess

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some refinement or some I guess quote

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unquote savings there.

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Uh next over the market study. So this

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is something that's always been a little

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bit of an enigma I think for a lot of

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people. You know when we say where do we

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want to be within the market? What does

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market even mean? Um, for the last

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number of years, our our target has been

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within 5% of the average of the market.

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Um,

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but again, what does market mean? And so

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we we kind of got into this this year

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and we've defined market as Davis County

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primarily. There are some positions

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where you can't use Davis County. For

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example, power department. There's only

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one other power department in the

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county, Bountiful. So, we have to look

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out. you have to look at Brigham City

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and others that have power departments

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outside of Davis to get a reasonable

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scale of of uh comparators, but for the

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most part that market study is just

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looking at Davis County where where do

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we compare uh among our peers right here

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in our own footprint. Um now that's not

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to say that somebody couldn't take a job

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in Oram or St. George or Logan even. I

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mean we've seen that happen. It happens

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all the time. But we feel like this I

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feel like this is giving us a reasonable

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um snapshot of where the market is. Um

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and it's not perfect, but I think at

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least it's more transparent. And so we

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again we've we've used our market. We've

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we are still within the 5% of average.

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That target has not changed this year.

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Although I would like over time to

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continue to to work towards getting us

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closer to average at least um just to

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maintain the the quality of employees

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that our residents expect and service

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levels that they expect and and it's

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extremely costly and challenging when we

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lose people. Um there's a lot of

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anecdotes that I hear almost every month

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about the difficulty and challenge of

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replacing employees who we've lost and

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we lose employees constantly. Um just in

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the last couple of months we've lost the

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number of employees in the water

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department um police, fire. It's a

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constant churn and there's a cost to the

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city in that. Not just a dollar cost of

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having to go out, recruit, train, all

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that, but the cost of losing that um

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institutional knowledge and the training

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is significant. Um and and it takes more

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than one person sometimes to to backfill

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those positions. And even with that,

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it's not enough because it just again,

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you can't replace years of experience um

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just with the next man up. And so that's one of the advantages we feel I

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feel of of trying to make sure that

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we're competitive in the market. Um and

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so all in all, as we look at the

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adjustments that would be needed to

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maintain our our our current target that

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we've had for the last few years of

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within 5% of average, you're looking at

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an a market adjustment to salaries of

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about 2.6 65% on on average.

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Um next over health insurance. Um so

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it's been mentioned um you know a lot of

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cities out there uh provide health

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insurance uh to their elected officials

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and we looked at that um and and that's

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correct. Just looking again if we're if

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we're looking at uh what does Davis

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County do? Kind of treating our elected

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officials the same way we try to we're

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proposing to treat our employees. What

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does the market say about elected

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officials? Um, you know, starting this

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year, for example, um, we started adding

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the cost of living adjustment that

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employees get to council because rather

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than waiting five years or more to look

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at council salaries, let's just continue

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to make sure that we're we're we're

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keeping up with other cities. And and

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part of that, I think, is looking at

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health insurance. Um, so we did a survey

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um of 10 other cities in Davis County

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and found that three of those of 10

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cities that we got information back from

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do provide health insurance to their to

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their elected officials and those are

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the larger cities, Clearfield,

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Bountiful, North Salt Lake. Um there

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might be others too, but of the the 10 I

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heard from, North Salt Lake, Bountiful,

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and Clearfield, they provide health

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insurance to their elected officials.

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So, we l looked at the cost of that

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would be about $141,000

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um a year assuming every elected

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official took the family plan. Um so,

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that's in this current proposal,

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proposed budget. Um down in the bottom

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left corner there, assumptions. So,

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every year we kind of try to gauge what

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personnel costs are going to do and we

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put in some assumptions. Um, one thing

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we've we've kind of talked about offline

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a little bit uh with some council

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members and the mayor is getting away

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from the idea of debating whether we do

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a merit or how much of a merit increase

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we do every year. Um, the merit increase

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is how employees move through their

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range. So, when they're hired at, you

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know, starting salary, employees are

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trying to gauge new employees,

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especially how long is it going to take

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until I top out, get to the max of my

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range? And every city that you'll see

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has pretty much a structured uh system

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of how they get employees, move them

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through their salary ranges from bottom

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to top. Um and and I think the word

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merit has really confused a lot of

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people like what does that mean? Like if

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most employees are getting that, is that

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really a merit? And and you know, we we

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kind of dug into the history of this

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like why did we call it a merit in the

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first place? and and it's a little bit

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of semantics I guess but the expectation

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was always that employees would get that 3% every year. Um that doesn't mean

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that everyone gets it. Um you know we do

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manage employees some some employees

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don't get it. Um some employees get

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managed out of the city if if we have

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performance problems and that happens

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more often than you might realize. Um,

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we keep that kind of confidential

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because it's personnel, but we are

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constantly doing performance improvement

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plans, managing employees and making

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sure the the performance is where it

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needs to be. A little bit of history too

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on the merit increase. So, back in up

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until about 2017, the city had a step

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system. Um, meaning you you kind of got

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these rigid um plan [clears throat]

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steps to move you through your salary

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range. And there was a chart that kind

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of showed step 1 2 3 4 [clears throat]

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all the way to the top. And on average,

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um, and correct me if I'm wrong, anybody

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that knows, but I'm going off my memory

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now, but I think it was 5% on average

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that employees were getting as they

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moved through the range.

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>> Um,

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>> four and a half

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>> four and a half%. Thank you. So 4 and a

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half%.

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And then in 2017, we switched over to um

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what Shane called the merit system. And

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so that was a 3% annual merit increase

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that employees would get. Um, and then

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if employees were kind of stellar, then

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they could get a 1 and a.5% increase on

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top of that 3% merit. So in other words,

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you were still eligible for the 4 1/2%

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if you were if you were a good employee.

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Somewhere around COVID, we eliminated

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that 1 and a.5% bonus and went just to

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the 3% uh merit. And then you know in

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recent the last couple of years um even

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the 3% merit has kind of been again a a

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debated topic and and kind of confusing

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on what it means but what we like to do

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going forward in order to stay

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competitive with other cities and kind

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of ensure new recruits and current

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employees like what is how do I move

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through the range? We want them to feel

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that there's a plan that they they can

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move through the range as long as

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they're performing. I mean obviously

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again if there's performance issues we manage those separately but there

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would be a 3% annual step increase that

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employees would get um as they are

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trained as they learn as they grow

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become more valuable to the city. This is how we would retain them by

537
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,559
giving them that 3% step every year

538
00:21:32,559 --> 00:21:34,949
until they hit the hit the top and

539
00:21:34,949 --> 00:21:36,720
[clears throat] and so it would rather

540
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,320
than a structure like this dollar amount

541
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:39,600
is step one this dollar amount is step

542
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,720
two etc. we would just say your step is

543
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,600
3% and then you continue to get 3% until

544
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,520
you bump, you know, hit the top of the

545
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,600
uh the range. Um, other cities do this

546
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,000
as well. For example, ORM does a 3% step

547
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,559
every year. Um, it's not unusual to just

548
00:21:54,559 --> 00:21:56,720
go off a percentage rather than a a set

549
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,799
dollar amount. Um, but I think this is

550
00:21:58,799 --> 00:22:00,880
also easier to manage as well. somebody

551
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,440
comes in, you know, um as a promotion,

552
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:04,720
for example, comes in mid-range

553
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,440
somewhere, um they can start getting on

554
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,679
that 3% system rather than having to

555
00:22:09,679 --> 00:22:11,600
kind of arbitrarily

556
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,400
um artificially put them onto a step.

557
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,720
It's it's kind of tricky that way. But

558
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,400
anyway,

559
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,039
this again is an attempt to kind of just

560
00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:24,480
set the expectation and clarify what it

561
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,240
is and hopefully just set that as

562
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,480
something we can not have to debate

563
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,799
every year. uh this is part of our

564
00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:34,240
salary plan, our our compensation plan

565
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,480
and and that allows us to tell new

566
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,480
recruits this is our our salary plan. We

567
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:39,919
have a plan that gets you to the top

568
00:22:39,919 --> 00:22:43,600
just like every other city does. Um so

569
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,520
with that said, is is there any question

570
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,799
about moving retitling this to a step? I

571
00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:50,240
think that's a more accurate way to

572
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:51,679
describe what it actually is and what

573
00:22:51,679 --> 00:22:55,360
was what it was intended to be.

574
00:22:55,360 --> 00:22:58,559
>> I think it takes away the angst. So I I

575
00:22:58,559 --> 00:22:59,919
think it provides a little bit more

576
00:22:59,919 --> 00:23:02,640
predictability.

577
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,760
>> So I think it sure is nice for employees

578
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:06,400
to know.

579
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,080
>> Yeah. And and most other systems like

580
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,520
you said use it. I know the government

581
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,840
uses it, the state uses it. It's just a

582
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,919
predictable system for people who are in

583
00:23:13,919 --> 00:23:15,840
public service.

584
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,919
>> That's a great point, Mayor. It is a lot

585
00:23:17,919 --> 00:23:19,039
of people from the private sector go,

586
00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:20,640
"Wait a minute, you're going to 3% every

587
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,760
year." Um, and you know, it is just the

588
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,919
way it's set up. As obviously most

589
00:23:25,919 --> 00:23:28,320
people know, if you work in a government

590
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,640
sector, whether it's federal or local or

591
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,880
what, you're probably making a lot less

592
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:38,000
when you come in um than you would in a private. But it's also set up that

593
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,679
you can work your way up to a higher

594
00:23:39,679 --> 00:23:41,600
salary through that that structured step

595
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,400
system. And so that that's again when we

596
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,240
look at how we are competitive, how we

597
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,360
attract and retain a reasonably good

598
00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:51,120
workforce that this is one of the ways

599
00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:52,799
that we think will help us and it'll

600
00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:55,520
help us avoid um some of those other

601
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,120
costs like I said too of losing good

602
00:23:57,120 --> 00:23:59,120
employees. We want to we're we're never

603
00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:01,120
going to retain 100% of employees.

604
00:24:01,120 --> 00:24:03,039
That's not our plan of course, but we

605
00:24:03,039 --> 00:24:04,960
want to we want to do a reasonable job

606
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,720
of being competitive and this is one of

607
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,159
those those uh keys. And I can I just

608
00:24:10,159 --> 00:24:12,720
point out that that's in line with the

609
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,720
adopted mission statement. The mission

610
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,840
statement I think is fantastic

611
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,919
and the supplement that was adopted with

612
00:24:19,919 --> 00:24:21,600
the mission statement. The first two

613
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,400
items in that the goals, the how is the

614
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,200
mission statement is accomplished.

615
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,200
Number one is seek out and maintain a

616
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,039
competent workforce that is courteous

617
00:24:31,039 --> 00:24:33,039
and sensitive to the needs of the

618
00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:36,080
community. And number two, properly

619
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,919
train and equip city personnel to

620
00:24:37,919 --> 00:24:44,240
perform safe and productive service. And I I think we've talked about it

621
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,880
before. When when the city is

622
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,039
successful, when good things happen,

623
00:24:49,039 --> 00:24:53,440
when the community is taken care of and the services are efficient and

624
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,880
equitable, it's because

625
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,720
all of us in this room are supporting

626
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,200
the people at the front desks and in the

627
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,919
patrol cars and in engines and at parks

628
00:25:03,919 --> 00:25:06,880
and on water leaks and power outages.

629
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,440
We're supporting them and giving them

630
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,520
what they need to do their job. And so

631
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,279
I think that's good to point out that

632
00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:17,600
this is in line with what we've already

633
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,600
established.

634
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,080
>> Thanks Josh. Yeah, spot spot on.

635
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,799
>> Jason, is anything on the slide up for

636
00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:27,120
conversation or we specifically

637
00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:29,200
>> All this is up for conversation. Yeah,

638
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,520
what we've done here that's a great um

639
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,320
question, Council Member Hunt. So what

640
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,080
we've done as staff is try to take to

641
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,000
their our best you know recommendations

642
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,679
what we think is going to put the city

643
00:25:39,679 --> 00:25:42,640
in a good spot knowing taking all the

644
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,640
feedback we've heard from you know

645
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,320
strategic planning meetings with council

646
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,720
about what's valuable about our mission

647
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,799
statement what we're trying to do to

648
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:52,480
guarantee we're taking care of our

649
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,120
residents um and taking feedback from

650
00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:56,640
the department has on what they what

651
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,640
their needs are and then making kind of

652
00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,919
the difficult decisions of all right

653
00:25:59,919 --> 00:26:02,000
here's what we think we should propose

654
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,559
but all of this is up for question, for

655
00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:07,279
discussion. Um, anything on this slide

656
00:26:07,279 --> 00:26:12,000
or any slide really for that matter is is up for question. And I and I

657
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,159
should have started out earlier. I

658
00:26:14,159 --> 00:26:16,080
talked in the beginning about a

659
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,080
different approach that we're taking.

660
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,520
So, in the past, um, we kind of just

661
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,360
threw everything at the council and

662
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:24,559
said, "Here's the budget for this

663
00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:25,840
department, this department, and kind of

664
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,520
went through a lot of line items." What

665
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,400
we try to hone in on here is just what's

666
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,000
changing. what are the big significant

667
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,120
things that you really need to pay

668
00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:36,159
attention to because every year the m

669
00:26:36,159 --> 00:26:38,000
the large majority of our expenditures

670
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,520
are just the same thing every single

671
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,919
year. Um they're not changing now. Yes,

672
00:26:41,919 --> 00:26:43,360
they're going up by inflation and things

673
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:45,919
like that, but what we try to focus on

674
00:26:45,919 --> 00:26:47,840
here are what are the changes to the

675
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,720
budget and help guide drive the

676
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,320
discussion towards those items so that

677
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:53,840
you can really focus on in on what's

678
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,240
probably most important. Um, of course,

679
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,000
you'll get the full packet of the budget

680
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,440
to to review every line item. um and

681
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,120
question. But for this the purpose of

682
00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:04,400
these work sessions, we want to really

683
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,080
focus the discussions on what's most

684
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,240
important, what's changing um and

685
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,159
highlight those those items. We feel

686
00:27:10,159 --> 00:27:11,840
like that's more transparent, will be

687
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,720
more productive in terms of how we

688
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,279
discuss the budget.

689
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:19,520
Um any any questions so far about

690
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,960
anything other than

691
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,520
>> Can I just add that I think in a year

692
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,440
like this when we're already struggling,

693
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,679
I don't know that we need to add health

694
00:27:27,679 --> 00:27:29,200
insurance for council members. Like I'm

695
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,960
aware that I can just say no for myself,

696
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,679
but I just think $141,000

697
00:27:33,679 --> 00:27:36,640
when we've already got like a 32% right

698
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,440
32 deficit is

699
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,120
>> is a lot for me. Like I would be a lot

700
00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:42,320
more comfortable moving it to a

701
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,799
different year or I mean not doing it at

702
00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:46,080
all, but moving it to a different year

703
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,000
>> and I think it's just been presented as

704
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,080
this is what's happening. But yeah.

705
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,640
>> Well, I most of us most of us probably

706
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,600
don't need it either.

707
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,679
>> Yeah. So I don't know. I that I just

708
00:27:55,679 --> 00:27:58,159
wanted to put that out there so that it

709
00:27:58,159 --> 00:27:59,679
could be up for consideration when

710
00:27:59,679 --> 00:28:00,399
moving forward.

711
00:28:00,399 --> 00:28:04,159
>> Put something out there. Um I I I think

712
00:28:04,159 --> 00:28:07,600
that's what leadership should do. Uh

713
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,000
there there's been previous years where

714
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,520
department heads have talked about like,

715
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,600
hey, if it if it helps uh accomplish the

716
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,159
overall mission to have department

717
00:28:18,159 --> 00:28:21,760
heads, you know, avoid cost of living or

718
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,840
merit increases.

719
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,720
uh if it helps get what we need for the

720
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,559
people doing the work,

721
00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:32,559
>> then let's do it. And and I think Jason

722
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:34,399
uh hit the nail on the head in a

723
00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:36,799
previous discussion with me of that is

724
00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:38,960
doing the the right thing for the wrong

725
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,720
reasons. Um and and I I think that's

726
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,240
noble to recognize the difficulty.

727
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,880
Um, but as I think we've looked at this,

728
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,600
um, I I think some people could try and

729
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,600
say, well, are you guys trying to pander

730
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,039
to people? It's no, like there's value

731
00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:02,480
at each level of the organization and

732
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,360
things like benefit and things like pay

733
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,600
are how you

734
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,080
recognize that value and you retain that

735
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,080
value. and and an elected position

736
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,039
to me is no different than hey, we have

737
00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:19,840
value from the guy that is going to go

738
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,240
out and fix the water leak and we have

739
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,760
value from experienced council people,

740
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,000
for example, that

741
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,039
they've been around the block and you

742
00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:33,039
know, hey, does a potential benefit,

743
00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:34,640
hey, they might already have it, so they

744
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,640
don't elect to take it, but does that

745
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,600
benefit being there help incentivize

746
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,520
other good people to come and

747
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,960
participate in in city council and

748
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,120
acknowledge the contribution. We know

749
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,600
that you guys aren't in it for uh

750
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,559
getting rich. Uh and and I think uh as

751
00:29:54,559 --> 00:29:57,919
you can work and acknowledge that uh I I

752
00:29:57,919 --> 00:30:00,720
don't think it's

753
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,080
a negative thing.

754
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,640
Nice to see you guys. Uh I did talk to

755
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,760
other cities that that do this um said

756
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,840
what you know why do you do it? What

757
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,919
what's what have you seen as the pros

758
00:30:13,919 --> 00:30:15,440
and cons? And and what I heard from

759
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,520
those cities is it helps us uh you know

760
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,440
attract and retain good elected

761
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,120
officials. Uh it's it's hard uh in to to

762
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,159
as you guys know you were up late last

763
00:30:28,159 --> 00:30:29,679
night and then you know first thing back

764
00:30:29,679 --> 00:30:31,360
to here and you've got you got other

765
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,120
responsibilities and jobs obviously to

766
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,440
take care of but what this has done for

767
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,320
some cities is help them attract people

768
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,000
that otherwise couldn't afford literally

769
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,000
to to take the time off dedicate to to

770
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,240
running for council. So there there's

771
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,080
that to consider. I know a lot of

772
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,520
there's a lot of affluent residents in

773
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,520
Cesville, but not everybody can afford,

774
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,679
you know, that and and to take that time

775
00:30:51,679 --> 00:30:54,399
off. Um, so it is that is one

776
00:30:54,399 --> 00:30:56,946
consideration to to think about. But

777
00:30:56,946 --> 00:30:57,600
[clears throat] anyway,

778
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,919
>> could I uh just real quick? Yeah. I mean

779
00:30:59,919 --> 00:31:02,799
I I guess I've always wondered

780
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:06,559
um when folks elect not to take health

781
00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:09,360
insurance or not to take a benefit are

782
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,799
there ever uh options in lie of I mean

783
00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:14,399
I'm just looking at the fact that okay

784
00:31:14,399 --> 00:31:16,240
it's not

785
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,840
you talking about employees

786
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,840
>> yeah not employees

787
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,919
>> I have in other places and I'm on Eric's

788
00:31:21,919 --> 00:31:24,640
insurance but we don't have a like a

789
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,120
payment in li of

790
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,440
>> we we offer that for our place Yeah, I

791
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,919
mean I just I mean I don't I like I I

792
00:31:31,919 --> 00:31:34,559
know that you know maybe in in the grand

793
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:36,000
scheme of things maybe that ends up

794
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,559
costing more because we are saving from

795
00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:40,240
the people that don't take advantage of

796
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,679
the health insurance even though we

797
00:31:41,679 --> 00:31:42,720
budget for it,

798
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:43,360
>> right?

799
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,039
>> But um but that's you know I look at

800
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:50,000
this like uh I you just divide it by

801
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,000
six, right? Divide it by six and then

802
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,720
divide it by 12 and it's $1,900 per

803
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,640
person.

804
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,080
So, you know, I mean, if someone were to

805
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,399
say to me like, "Oh, yeah, you can take

806
00:32:02,399 --> 00:32:04,159
advantage of the health insurance or you

807
00:32:04,159 --> 00:32:06,559
can get an extra $1,000 a month, which

808
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:08,960
would be half of what the city's having

809
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,880
to pay for for your health insurance,

810
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,240
then that would to me, I mean, I would

811
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,760
have an easy choice there. But

812
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,919
obviously, I have health insurance being

813
00:32:19,919 --> 00:32:24,000
offered through my work. So, uh, that's

814
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,919
just something I think to ponder, I

815
00:32:25,919 --> 00:32:28,159
guess, maybe, or to think about is this

816
00:32:28,159 --> 00:32:30,080
concept because I think your concept is

817
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,080
correct that we do want to get good

818
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,519
people. Josh made a [clears throat] good

819
00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:40,080
point like that. And I do feel like you get good people,

820
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,360
you know, you kind of get what you pay

821
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,399
for in a lot of ways. And so a lot of

822
00:32:44,399 --> 00:32:46,159
public offices end up getting the people

823
00:32:46,159 --> 00:32:50,240
that retired or you know just don't I

824
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,799
mean in our case it's not what we're

825
00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:55,440
dealing with but

826
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,600
>> yeah those great great thoughts and and

827
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,480
um and Maren has been researching this

828
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,480
idea of you know what what would payment

829
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,960
and looked like and we've we've pulled

830
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,440
in uh they pulled in our our health

831
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,912
insurance broker GBS to to

832
00:33:09,912 --> 00:33:11,200
[clears throat] run numbers and give us

833
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,000
advice And so we are looking at that.

834
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,399
Like like you point out, council member

835
00:33:16,399 --> 00:33:19,200
uh Adams, it it's a little tricky

836
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,640
because with our employees in

837
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,960
particular, a lot of them aren't taking

838
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,720
that insurance now. So, if we start

839
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,640
offering something, then we're out of

840
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,240
the gate paying something we're not

841
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,559
already paying. And we're not sure like

842
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:33,279
what is it what's that, you know, right

843
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:36,159
number to to incentivize employees to to

844
00:33:36,159 --> 00:33:38,320
maybe take their spouse's insurance or

845
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,360
some other insurance that they might

846
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,200
have available to them and and then save

847
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,640
the city money because in the end goal,

848
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,880
that would be the the goal of it to save

849
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,559
the city money. If we could, you know,

850
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:48,799
get some employees off of our insurance,

851
00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:52,399
that would certainly be a big win. Um

852
00:33:52,399 --> 00:33:55,039
but uh and and I and I used that I did

853
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:58,720
this in one of my cities um way back. Uh

854
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,399
we offered I think it was $800 a year.

855
00:34:02,399 --> 00:34:05,760
Not not a lot of money. Um but we kind

856
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,760
of did a lot of surveying and research

857
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,119
and thought that was the right number

858
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:11,679
and we ended up kind of breaking even

859
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:13,359
there. I think there was one person that

860
00:34:13,359 --> 00:34:15,200
decided to take the 800 bucks and take

861
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,560
their spouse's insurance and then we

862
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,000
ended up paying a whole bunch of other

863
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,760
people that weren't getting that were

864
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,079
already off the insurance. You know, now

865
00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:26,320
they were getting 800 bucks. So, it's a little bit of a guessing game as

866
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,079
to what that right number is.

867
00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:32,800
>> I'm not necessarily suggesting at this point in time that you look at

868
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,240
changing the whole employee structure,

869
00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:39,280
but and I do feel like council

870
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,040
compensation is It's easy to say that's

871
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,720
separate from the, you know, from

872
00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:48,480
employees.

873
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,159
And so my thought is that if if there is

874
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:54,960
some heartache about the idea of of

875
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,400
adding 141 to the budget that that could

876
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,400
be an option. If you are interested

877
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,119
truly in offering a service, I don't

878
00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:06,720
know that I don't know personally if

879
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:10,240
Nate or or Abby or Mike or you know I

880
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:12,720
really don't know if if somebody would

881
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:14,320
actually take advantage of it. They

882
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,839
might,

883
00:35:15,839 --> 00:35:18,320
you know, we don't know how much

884
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,800
>> I don't know all of my council members

885
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,960
personal finances and how much they're

886
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,880
currently paying for health insurance

887
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,520
and what situation they're in. And so

888
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,560
that benefit could very well help a lot

889
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,720
of people. So I I I don't you know Abby

890
00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:35,359
I while I or Councilwoman Hunt while I

891
00:35:35,359 --> 00:35:38,000
respect what you're saying there

892
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,400
I I I I wouldn't want us to just dismiss

893
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,440
it without actually giving Council

894
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,680
Member Jackson and others the

895
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,040
opportunity to say like no actually

896
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,200
I could really use health insurance. But

897
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,920
if we want to save some money and not

898
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,640
budget that much, we could do a poll

899
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,800
amongst and say like, hey, who would

900
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,359
actually just take the in lie of and

901
00:36:01,359 --> 00:36:03,680
then all of a sudden it's 70 grand or

902
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,800
it's much less.

903
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,079
It's a thought,

904
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:09,680
>> something to think about.

905
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,660
>> Right. Great discussion. Um so

906
00:36:12,660 --> 00:36:14,480
[clears throat] kind of going back to so

907
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,720
under assumptions

908
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:20,240
um going to just step calling it a step

909
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:22,160
now. what what it truly is and is

910
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,800
intended. Uh the cola every year we look

911
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,880
at um in the past we've tried to for

912
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,160
most years in the past we've kind of

913
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,079
gone off of the Utah retirement system

914
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:35,599
URS's inflationary number. Um but we

915
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:37,359
haven't followed that in some years when

916
00:36:37,359 --> 00:36:39,515
it's been especially high. We also

917
00:36:39,515 --> 00:36:40,880
[snorts] look at other things you know

918
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,280
like uh social security and and

919
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,040
inflation. Um what what

920
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,640
pretty much every city does cola in some

921
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,680
way or another. Some cities um mix it in

922
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,400
with their overall. Some cities do it

923
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,920
every other year. Some cities just do it

924
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,359
straight across the board cola every

925
00:36:57,359 --> 00:36:59,920
year to keep up uh rather than doing big

926
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:02,960
leaps and bounds every other year. But

927
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,400
uh this year uh looking at what the

928
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,640
inflationary numbers are. For example, I

929
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,560
think is 2.6%, social security is 2.8%.

930
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,920
Is that right? So the 2.5% seems to be

931
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,680
right about in line with maybe a little

932
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,160
bit less even. But um this is just a

933
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,280
number that kind of keeps us

934
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,920
competitive. So uh every city's

935
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,960
adjusting their salary ranges pretty

936
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,560
much every year. Um and this just helps

937
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,800
us maintain that position in the market.

938
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,800
So if our position right now is within

939
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,079
5% of average, if we're not adjusting um

940
00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:40,240
for inflation, we're going to start

941
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:42,400
slipping down. And so again, this just

942
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,280
helps us maintain that that level. Uh it

943
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,720
also ensures that employees that are

944
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:48,880
kind of topped out of their range,

945
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,320
they're not getting any other increase

946
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,839
to their salary other than what might

947
00:37:51,839 --> 00:37:56,480
come through a cola. So um and then the

948
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,320
another assumption that we've built into

949
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,480
the the proposed budget as it is right

950
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,040
now is health insurance costs increasing

951
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,119
9.5%. We did get our rate renewal back

952
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:09,760
from the U of Health and that they came

953
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,119
in at 9, sorry, 9 and a half%. We asked

954
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:15,119
our broker to go back and market our

955
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:17,599
plan to other carriers, which they're

956
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:19,599
doing right now and we'll get renewed

957
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:21,280
rates [snorts] from other carriers as

958
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,359
well as maybe be able to negotiate with

959
00:38:23,359 --> 00:38:25,839
U of more now that we're looking at

960
00:38:25,839 --> 00:38:27,520
going to other carriers. We do this all

961
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,520
the time uh to try to make sure we're

962
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,760
getting the best rate possible. So, we

963
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,599
expect that we'll get get that rate down

964
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:35,680
a little bit, but right now it's

965
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,200
proposed at 9 and a half percent. That's

966
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,880
the built-in assumption. And what by the

967
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,400
way, that is 9 and a half% is not

968
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,280
terrible.

969
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,960
>> I [clears throat] think the market trend

970
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,560
right now we were told was what we're in

971
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:45,920
10 and a half% or something.

972
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,560
>> I know like one of the tech schools 11

973
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,520
and a half%.

974
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:49,760
>> Yeah.

975
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:50,880
>> And they were thinking that they were

976
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,480
getting a pretty good deal.

977
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,880
>> So, yeah, 10 11% is kind of the trend

978
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,680
right now industrywide. So, we're we're not shocked with the 9 and a half%

979
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,520
but we're also optimistic. Our claims um

980
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,720
we marketed last year and actually got a

981
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:08,079
little bit better rate from another

982
00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:11,040
carrier, but we opted to stay with U of

983
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,800
because we knew our claims were likely

984
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,040
to go way down and they have gone down

985
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,119
over the last year. So, that puts us in

986
00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:19,280
a better position to get even better

987
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,240
renewals or better um competitive rates

988
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:24,240
from other carriers, we think. And so

989
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:26,000
we'll see what those rates are and if if

990
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,520
it's the right year to jump ship and go

991
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,480
to PHP or another carrier, um we'll look

992
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,480
at those and our goal is to make sure

993
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,160
we're we're getting obviously the best

994
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,720
rate possible and with a good quality

995
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:39,520
insurance program.

996
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,880
Um next one over there, retirement. Um

997
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,760
so with our employer contributions going

998
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,680
down a little bit, half a percent that's

999
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,520
because investments have performed well

1000
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,119
over the last year. So that's a positive

1001
00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:53,520
thing. 12% went up 15%

1002
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:58,310
>> and then our um

1003
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,920
retention plan um that that's been

1004
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,280
brought up in the past. We're still

1005
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:04,800
doing some research on different ways

1006
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,880
that I know uh council member Adams I

1007
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,480
think you brought up one time like

1008
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,079
should we be looking at a way to do a

1009
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:13,119
retention plan. So um we've been

1010
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:14,640
studying that researching it and we're

1011
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,320
continuing that not quite ready to to

1012
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,960
present anything right now.

1013
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,359
Sorry, next slide.

1014
00:40:21,359 --> 00:40:23,119
So that's general fund uh special

1015
00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:27,839
revenue funds. All right. Uh ramp fund.

1016
00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:29,440
So

1017
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,200
uh the the annual ramp uh revenue we're

1018
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,680
getting is is 568,000.

1019
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,160
Some of the big ticket items that we're

1020
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,480
expecting and cold actually I should

1021
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:41,520
probably just turn this over to you. Do

1022
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:42,800
you want to speak to it?

1023
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,960
>> Sure. So the ramp board hasn't been

1024
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,880
officially yet. uh three members

1025
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,040
hopefully will be appointed uh at the

1026
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,720
next council meeting.

1027
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:51,040
>> Yes.

1028
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,760
>> Um so we can meet uh we plan to meet the

1029
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,760
second week of April. Uh the rampant

1030
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,359
board basically takes all the

1031
00:40:57,359 --> 00:40:59,760
applications that are submitted and uh

1032
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,000
reviews them and then recommends funding

1033
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:07,190
to um to the city council for approval.

1034
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,920
The 568,000 is what we've historically

1035
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,000
been receiving. And so that's what we

1036
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,400
project for expenditures

1037
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,000
already allocated by previous city

1038
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,319
councils is uh money down for the I call

1039
00:41:20,319 --> 00:41:24,079
money down but money allocated for the Kazel field house that we're

1040
00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:25,920
partnering with the school district on.

1041
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,760
So that's already kind of taken off the

1042
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,680
top. Um, so what's left after that is

1043
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,880
basically 200,000 to for the committee

1044
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,040
to

1045
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,880
appropriate or recommend to the city

1046
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,680
council. So

1047
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,040
one of the major applications this year

1048
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,400
is for part of a skate park that you've

1049
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,720
all been aware of. Uh, and then the

1050
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:48,240
other one what we call scholarships, but

1051
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:49,920
it's actually, you know, there might be

1052
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,079
outside entities. [clears throat] Mercy

1053
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:54,480
housing typically applies from person

1054
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,920
after school programming. Um, that the

1055
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,839
board was awarded to in previous years.

1056
00:41:59,839 --> 00:42:01,680
So those scholarships are are that kind

1057
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,040
of grant programming for kind of outside

1058
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,079
entities [snorts]

1059
00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:08,160
within Kisville

1060
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,040
that uh fulfill the mission of grant

1061
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,760
recreation arts museum and parks. And so

1062
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,319
that's kind of what uh the ramp fund

1063
00:42:16,319 --> 00:42:19,040
will look like this year. That 200,000

1064
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,440
may not break exactly how we're

1065
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,400
assuming, but that's kind of the initial

1066
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,640
projection. And for the skatepark,

1067
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,040
that's just one time, right? That's not

1068
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,400
an ongoing commitment or is it

1069
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:31,520
>> It's not an ongoing commitment. It's a

1070
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,680
onetime fund. So, if they want if the

1071
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,319
parks department wants to do additions,

1072
00:42:36,319 --> 00:42:40,400
they would have to reapply next year for [snorts] more funding. So, that's

1073
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:46,069
what they've applied for uh this year.

1074
00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:48,000
There's also money being applied for out

1075
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,480
of it for skate parks. 150,000 doesn't

1076
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,839
get you very far um

1077
00:42:53,839 --> 00:42:56,960
in today's construction world. So, um,

1078
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,520
but that's kind of what, uh, ramp looks

1079
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,480
like this year.

1080
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:03,119
>> Question.

1081
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:04,319
>> Yeah, [clears throat]

1082
00:43:04,319 --> 00:43:08,000
>> I don't see anything there for the&m.

1083
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,240
>> So, that that's part of the scholarship.

1084
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:12,880
So when I say when we say a college

1085
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,800
scholarship, so like this year there's

1086
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,680
been applications from uh Mercy Housing,

1087
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,079
from Creekide Elementary, from the

1088
00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:22,560
Historic Preservation Commission, uh for

1089
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,880
Lon Stewart um stuff. And so all of that

1090
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,920
is for the sake of slide, it just lumped

1091
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,480
into that quote scholarship. Maybe

1092
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,720
scholarship isn't the right word to use

1093
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:37,440
uh just in the uh other applications,

1094
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,200
but there are art components that have

1095
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,359
applied for this year. So,

1096
00:43:41,359 --> 00:43:42,880
>> if there's something that includes the

1097
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,880
anium, it'd be nice to show.

1098
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:50,069
>> Yeah, that's fair.

1099
00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:51,440
» Great.

1100
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,359
>> Um actually, Cole, do you want to talk

1101
00:43:53,359 --> 00:43:55,359
briefly about the cemetery?

1102
00:43:55,359 --> 00:43:56,880
>> Oh,

1103
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,280
perpetual care. Uh it's just an ongoing

1104
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,880
out of our perpetual care piece. So,

1105
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,040
with every

1106
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,200
burial or internal within the city. Part

1107
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,119
of the fee that there's a perpetual care

1108
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:09,920
fee that gets paid which is kind of like

1109
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,200
it says for in perpetuity and so we that

1110
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,520
money is held in reserve for you know

1111
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,440
ongoing perpetual care needs and one of

1112
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,400
the needs coming up this year is our uh

1113
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,079
perimeter fence. We started this last

1114
00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:26,160
year. Um our just due to elements, our

1115
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,079
the grout in our mix that was used many

1116
00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:31,920
years ago is is disintegrating. So we

1117
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,920
have some brick columns that are

1118
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,200
starting to um fall apart. And so that's

1119
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,839
just refurbishing the exterior fence,

1120
00:44:39,839 --> 00:44:42,480
rewelding some of the panels, and then a

1121
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,240
mason to fix the uh the caps and the

1122
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:49,040
brick columns that surround them. And

1123
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,359
that should be this 30 should finish

1124
00:44:51,359 --> 00:44:56,000
that uh that that refurbishment project.

1125
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,760
>> When do you see that project finishing

1126
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:58,560
up? Cole

1127
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,920
>> the cemetery fence this year that this

1128
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,000
would finish it.

1129
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,400
>> So and like I said that that perpetual

1130
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,319
ceremony is is a restricted room. It can

1131
00:45:08,319 --> 00:45:10,720
only be used for perpetual care. Um we

1132
00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:13,839
can't use it for like you know new

1133
00:45:13,839 --> 00:45:16,319
expansion or just for perpetual care

1134
00:45:16,319 --> 00:45:21,670
needs of the cemetery. And so that's why

1135
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,920
it's an existing [snorts] just keeping

1136
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,990
up. So

1137
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,160
» I can't remember if you mentioned it,

1138
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,160
Cole. Uh with the skate park, the

1139
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,560
150,000 from ramp, that's part of it.

1140
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,079
There's also other funding sources

1141
00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:37,599
that'll contribute from park impact

1142
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:38,079
fees.

1143
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:39,599
>> So we're asking for some for park impact

1144
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:41,920
fees to use some of our park impact fee

1145
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,760
to um

1146
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,440
>> We'll see that on the next slide.

1147
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,760
>> Oh, that's right. Yeah. Thanks, Mar.

1148
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,240
Um, perfect. And then, uh, the road

1149
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:51,839
utility fund. Uh, Josh, you probably

1150
00:45:51,839 --> 00:45:53,920
better to speak to this. [clears throat]

1151
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,400
Really, it's just wrapping up 200 North.

1152
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,440
Uh, the the the increase there of

1153
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,440
352,000

1154
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,160
uh, for operating. In the past, we've

1155
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,280
kind of pulled operating expenses out of

1156
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,599
general fund, but um, there's really no

1157
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:11,200
reason for that. We think if it's road

1158
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:12,720
expense, it should be coming out of road

1159
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:14,720
utilities. So there, that's why that's

1160
00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:16,079
going up a little bit. just a shifting

1161
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:19,599
of where we're funding that from and um

1162
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:23,200
and then just we're not doing as much um

1163
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,040
maintenance just mostly Josh you want to

1164
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,240
speak to that just kind of a bandwidth

1165
00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:27,760
thing it's it's one thing to throw money

1166
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,440
at a project but if you don't have the

1167
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,920
staff to you know pull that off

1168
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:37,280
>> the the 200 north project um has become

1169
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,760
uh fairly labor intensive uh because of

1170
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:48,240
utility conflicts that we're seeing on almost a daily bas basis. Um, so you

1171
00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:50,640
know, as police and fire can attest,

1172
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,280
we're hitting them up uh just about

1173
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,920
every other day about, hey, we've got to

1174
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,480
shut this down. We've got to terminate

1175
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,079
this.

1176
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:03,520
So, just from a a staff perspective,

1177
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,400
trying to pull on another project

1178
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,200
uh in addition to 200 North and then

1179
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,280
trying to prep for the potential for the

1180
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,760
Angel Street expansion

1181
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:18,160
um that we we pushed off preventing

1182
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,520
maintenance costs this year.

1183
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,079
>> When they going to start digging again?

1184
00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:25,599
>> On 200 North. Uh

1185
00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:27,359
we haven't really stopped.

1186
00:47:27,359 --> 00:47:29,839
>> Okay. We're still going. Yeah,

1187
00:47:29,839 --> 00:47:32,720
>> we just finished up the 8 in water line.

1188
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:35,520
Uh started this week on the 16inch water

1189
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:36,480
line.

1190
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,880
>> You see anywhere where we can anticipate

1191
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,200
even more gas lines being hit?

1192
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,800
>> Yeah%.

1193
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:43,680
>> Yeah, I know.

1194
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:44,560
>> Yeah, 100%.

1195
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:45,680
>> Thank you.

1196
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,960
>> Just like confirm that.

1197
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:49,520
>> Yeah.

1198
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,599
>> Hey, at least they're good. that that much I can't tell you is we'll

1199
00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:55,483
continue to have utility hits and

1200
00:47:55,483 --> 00:47:56,480
[clears throat]

1201
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,880
>> and most of those to the contractor's

1202
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,880
credit have been you know like we hit a

1203
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,319
boulder while we were digging through in

1204
00:48:04,319 --> 00:48:05,920
that boulder

1205
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,680
>> shoved a gas line out of the way or

1206
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:08,800
>> they're not actually

1207
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,319
>> USI yeah USIC didn't come out and mark

1208
00:48:12,319 --> 00:48:14,640
the gas and

1209
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,240
they dug right through it things like

1210
00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:19,040
that so

1211
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,319
yeah that's the only thing we can

1212
00:48:20,319 --> 00:48:22,480
guarantee is that it it'll continue to

1213
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:23,520
be

1214
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:24,559
>> like I said, at least they're good to

1215
00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:25,040
work with.

1216
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,520
>> But but we're anticipating that project

1217
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,280
uh wrapping up in in November and at

1218
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,319
least substantially complete.

1219
00:48:34,319 --> 00:48:35,760
>> That is definitely been a gift that

1220
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:36,400
keeps on

1221
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,119
>> Yeah, for sure. [laughter]

1222
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:42,000
>> Yeah. But it'll be nice to have out of

1223
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:42,480
their way.

1224
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,480
>> It'd be nice for Cody not to send a road

1225
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:45,040
closure.

1226
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:45,440
>> Yeah.

1227
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,000
That would be wonderful.

1228
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,079
Seth Seth has it on automatic like

1229
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:52,480
decline every time we send an email

1230
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,000
over. Nothing makes

1231
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,000
>> I just cut and paste my thank you. Thank

1232
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,363
you.

1233
00:48:58,363 --> 00:49:00,079
[laughter]

1234
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:01,200
>> Perfect.

1235
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,440
>> Thanks.

1236
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,960
>> And then we've got uh 16,000 plugged in

1237
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,359
for uh doing an updated uh

1238
00:49:09,359 --> 00:49:12,774
transportation utility fee study. Um,

1239
00:49:12,774 --> 00:49:14,400
[clears throat] as everyone knows, we

1240
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,160
that's a great source of revenue for us

1241
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:17,520
that we've been using for a number of

1242
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:18,640
years now. And

1243
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,280
>> I think the biggest thing is uh even

1244
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,599
aside from the potential of legislation

1245
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:27,200
that's discussed every year, um, our our

1246
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,640
transportation utility fee was

1247
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,920
established in 2018. And so the the

1248
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,800
prices of

1249
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,000
>> or the rate of that is 2018based

1250
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,319
and we're now

1251
00:49:40,319 --> 00:49:44,319
>> one to 400% increases in our cost. So

1252
00:49:44,319 --> 00:49:48,720
just want to reanalyze that 400

1253
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:51,359
>> and it was good to see this year that a

1254
00:49:51,359 --> 00:49:53,920
bill was passed on the tough and

1255
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,920
>> it so it's good where we

1256
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,839
>> it only took him eight years to prove

1257
00:49:57,839 --> 00:50:00,640
that you could do it. Right.

1258
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,359
Um hopefully that's done now and we can

1259
00:50:03,359 --> 00:50:06,559
move on um with any legislative issues.

1260
00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:10,000
But at any [clears throat] rate um any

1261
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,920
other questions on these ones? So next

1262
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,520
slide.

1263
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,640
Okay. RDA uh

1264
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,839
and oh darn Linda slipped out. Um so

1265
00:50:19,839 --> 00:50:22,720
really we we budget money every year out

1266
00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:27,599
of RDA uh for potential um expenditures.

1267
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:30,160
in this case. Um, you know, we might the

1268
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,400
CRA hopefully will be coming back and

1269
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,079
that'll take some money to to work with

1270
00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:37,440
Z public finance and others to to to put

1271
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,000
that together. So, we've got some money

1272
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,119
plugged in for now on on that. Uh, our

1273
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:45,599
fund balance is up to 1.2 million uh

1274
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:48,319
with RDA and there are specific things

1275
00:50:48,319 --> 00:50:50,079
that you can use that for and you can't.

1276
00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:51,599
So,

1277
00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:53,280
>> um,

1278
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,520
>> go for

1279
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,400
>> I would actually like to see you offer

1280
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,359
that to small businesses for loans at a

1281
00:51:01,359 --> 00:51:04,160
certain percent at least maybe 500,000

1282
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,200
of it because that's what it's all

1283
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:07,839
about.

1284
00:51:07,839 --> 00:51:10,720
>> Loans to do what? Just resurface

1285
00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:12,880
buildings paint. we some has somebody

1286
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,040
that can come with a proforma and wants

1287
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,200
to go on Main Street or something but

1288
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:18,800
they don't have the money to quite get

1289
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,640
going that we can loan them the money at

1290
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,480
a lower interest rate to help them

1291
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,359
because it will help enhance and so if

1292
00:51:25,359 --> 00:51:28,400
we do have a budget which I don't see us

1293
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,000
using for anything this year let's maybe

1294
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,599
offer that out and try to make some

1295
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:36,880
money back from it

1296
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:41,440
I do anticipate just Uh,

1297
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,559
this is way high level, but I do

1298
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:48,160
anticipate that the the hotel that comes

1299
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,880
in is probably going to approach us with

1300
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,440
some requests would be my guess.

1301
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,200
>> Uh, for whatever it might be, tax or

1302
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,839
some type of [snorts] assistance. I

1303
00:51:59,839 --> 00:52:03,359
guess that's fairly standard for them to

1304
00:52:03,359 --> 00:52:05,359
request of cities for the first little

1305
00:52:05,359 --> 00:52:07,920
bit. But [clears throat] um just kind of

1306
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,839
an FYI.

1307
00:52:09,839 --> 00:52:11,680
>> Jason, can you explain to me what this

1308
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,599
the RDA expense? That's how much we're

1309
00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:15,440
planning on spending this year.

1310
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:16,400
>> That's how much we have.

1311
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:16,800
>> The

1312
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,000
>> that's how much we have from the

1313
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:18,640
previous

1314
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,160
>> the the fund balance.

1315
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,839
>> No, no, that that's 70k. That's

1316
00:52:21,839 --> 00:52:23,599
>> Oh, the 70k. That's just what we plugged

1317
00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:26,079
in right now for potential expenditures

1318
00:52:26,079 --> 00:52:29,200
for next year. Um we budget most years

1319
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,359
to to spend some money out of RDA for,

1320
00:52:31,359 --> 00:52:36,079
you know, potential consultants like putting together the CRA. Uh, and a

1321
00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:38,000
lot of years, most years maybe, we don't

1322
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,119
really spend spend it, but should we put

1323
00:52:41,119 --> 00:52:44,000
the CRA back on and which I I'd like to

1324
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,480
do, um, then that's going to cost a

1325
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,040
little bit of money to to, you know, get

1326
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,200
a consultant on board and

1327
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,200
>> but so where does the 70k come from? Is

1328
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,880
that just coming from our general fund

1329
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,319
>> out of the fund balance? Yeah, out of

1330
00:52:56,319 --> 00:52:58,720
the RDA fund. Yeah, good question.

1331
00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:00,079
>> Wait, the RDA fund like

1332
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:02,720
>> No, no, there's some um property tax

1333
00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:04,400
specific for the RDA that we get. It's

1334
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:05,520
about 130,000.

1335
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:06,160
>> Thanks, M.

1336
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:06,400
>> Yeah.

1337
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,319
>> To to which RDA

1338
00:53:08,319 --> 00:53:08,800
>> Wait,

1339
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:09,920
>> the current one we have?

1340
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:10,559
>> Yeah, the current one.

1341
00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:11,599
>> Okay. The current the one that's over

1342
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:11,760
there.

1343
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,119
>> Yeah, we get revenue every year.

1344
00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:13,520
>> Okay.

1345
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:14,000
>> Yeah.

1346
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:14,880
>> Okay. Thanks.

1347
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,079
>> And so we just budget 70,000 of expenses

1348
00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:20,000
each year.

1349
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,359
>> And that's restricted to what we can use

1350
00:53:21,359 --> 00:53:23,040
it for.

1351
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,640
>> I mean, we can actually use that for

1352
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,319
Melinda when she's working on it, right?

1353
00:53:26,319 --> 00:53:28,240
You can actually

1354
00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:30,800
pay Melinda the portion of some things

1355
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,319
when she's working on it, or can you

1356
00:53:32,319 --> 00:53:37,200
not? Uh, I don't know. I I there I know

1357
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:38,800
there's when we when we use it, we

1358
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,640
there's a very specific list of things

1359
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,520
you can and can't, but um

1360
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,720
>> I I do know too that's as a lot of you

1361
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:48,480
been very involved with the legislative

1362
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,640
policy committee and the youth, the

1363
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,640
league. There's a lot of discussion

1364
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:57,200
about uh tip um legislation and and what

1365
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,480
you can and can't use that for and how it gets tracked and things like

1366
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,800
that. So, that might continue to be on

1367
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,599
the radar. [snorts] Um, as for now,

1368
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:08,160
we've got a little bit of flexibility on

1369
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,559
how we use that money. And, um, you

1370
00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:12,160
know, sometimes things will pop up. A

1371
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:13,680
couple years ago, we had an opportunity

1372
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,200
to try to acquire some, um, land for

1373
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,880
parking downtown. And unfortunately,

1374
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,520
they didn't take us up on it. But it's

1375
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:22,880
nice that we have that money available

1376
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,400
when opportunities pop up because

1377
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,720
sometimes out of nowhere maybe, you

1378
00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:28,960
know, a developer needs something that's

1379
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,599
really a good investment for the city

1380
00:54:31,599 --> 00:54:34,559
and and if it's a a reasonable use of

1381
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:36,160
RDA funds, it's nice to have those

1382
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,720
available as well. Um, but we'd love to

1383
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:40,880
explore the CRA again. I I'd like to

1384
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,200
see, you know, us continue to work

1385
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,000
towards that and and maybe I don't know

1386
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,680
if any of you have been to Vernal in the

1387
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,680
last couple years, but holy cow, they

1388
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,920
have turned that downtown into an

1389
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,760
amazing destination. They've done a lot

1390
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,079
of small business loans to help them do

1391
00:54:56,079 --> 00:54:58,400
facade improvements and they've used

1392
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,319
their um their tiff money for that. So,

1393
00:55:02,319 --> 00:55:03,920
I think there will be opportunities to

1394
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,000
continue to to work on stuff like that

1395
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,559
and help our businesses.

1396
00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:11,280
um NBA fund. So this is where another

1397
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,680
area that credit to Marin really got

1398
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,960
creative. Um so our municipal building

1399
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,640
authority is just how we pay for the

1400
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,240
bonds on the police station and the city

1401
00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:24,640
hall. And as everyone knows, I think the bonds are going to be retired by

1402
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,960
2031 for the police station, 2034 for

1403
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,520
city hall. Um those are significant

1404
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,319
payments every year. But what we

1405
00:55:32,319 --> 00:55:39,440
realized is we've got a fund balance in those um in those in the MVA fund and

1406
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,119
we're like why why do we carry a fund

1407
00:55:41,119 --> 00:55:43,119
balance that should be used to to pay

1408
00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:45,599
off the bonds and so I think the reason

1409
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:47,760
why we've kept that in there is because

1410
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,359
in a year where a general fund is

1411
00:55:49,359 --> 00:55:51,839
especially tight it might be nice to be

1412
00:55:51,839 --> 00:55:55,440
able to um to pull money from that fund

1413
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:56,720
balance which is exactly what we're

1414
00:55:56,720 --> 00:55:58,400
doing right now. you know, we we

1415
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,079
realized general fund is very tight this

1416
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:02,480
year and we're already in a hole with

1417
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,559
the the truth and taxation the last

1418
00:56:04,559 --> 00:56:06,960
year. So, we thought this is a great

1419
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,640
opportunity to pull from some of that

1420
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,960
MBA fund balance and also we've got a

1421
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,799
fund balance in the the public safety

1422
00:56:12,799 --> 00:56:17,680
impact fee. Um, and so that three gosh,

1423
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,319
my eyes are so bad. 353

1424
00:56:20,319 --> 00:56:21,839
um

1425
00:56:21,839 --> 00:56:25,119
is a is a very reasonable and typical

1426
00:56:25,119 --> 00:56:27,200
use for for that impact fee to pay off

1427
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,240
those police station bonds. So, um,

1428
00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:31,920
that's what we're proposing to do. And

1429
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,040
because, uh, we're able to do that, pull

1430
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,119
from some of those fund balances and use

1431
00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:38,720
some of those impact fees, we're able to

1432
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:40,960
lower our general fund transfer by quite

1433
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,920
a bit. And so, um,

1434
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,440
>> so did I hear you right? You said that

1435
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,200
we could use that MPA fund from public

1436
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,760
safety to pay off the bond on the light

1437
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,160
on the post or police station.

1438
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,160
>> That the impact fee?

1439
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:56,880
>> No. So,

1440
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,319
>> pay towards it or pay it off?

1441
00:56:58,319 --> 00:57:02,160
>> The public safety impact fee uh the

1442
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,079
impact fee study specifically talks

1443
00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:06,720
about the police station bond. So, any

1444
00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:08,799
of the public safety impact fees can be

1445
00:57:08,799 --> 00:57:09,599
paid

1446
00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:12,640
>> towards that. towards this police.

1447
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,240
There's not enough to pay it off right

1448
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:14,640
now.

1449
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,559
>> Okay. But a chunk of it. Yes.

1450
00:57:16,559 --> 00:57:18,319
>> Okay. Great.

1451
00:57:18,319 --> 00:57:18,720
>> Okay.

1452
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:19,200
>> Yep.

1453
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,839
>> Jason, do you want to MBA stands for?

1454
00:57:21,839 --> 00:57:24,319
>> Municipal Building Authority. It's just

1455
00:57:24,319 --> 00:57:26,880
the the the fund that we use to pay off

1456
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,920
the the bonds on the buildings. Um

1457
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,240
specifically this building and police

1458
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,160
right now.

1459
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,480
>> So yeah, good question. MBA stands for

1460
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,094
Masters of Business Administration.

1461
00:57:39,094 --> 00:57:41,750
>> [laughter]

1462
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:42,559
» graduate degrees.

1463
00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:44,334
>> All right. We're paying for degrees

1464
00:57:44,334 --> 00:57:45,280
[laughter]

1465
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,359
from general fund

1466
00:57:47,359 --> 00:57:49,359
general funds. What you're saying?

1467
00:57:49,359 --> 00:57:51,760
>> Yeah. So, we don't Yeah. Typically, we

1468
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,599
budget a big transfer from general fund,

1469
00:57:53,599 --> 00:57:54,000
but now

1470
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,920
>> and then we won't have to. Okay. Great.

1471
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,040
Brilliant.

1472
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,440
>> Thanks.

1473
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,990
>> Um All right. That service

1474
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,760
» if I'm missing anybody's hands or not

1475
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:06,960
like um like

1476
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,720
>> Sorry, we're not even raising them. cuz

1477
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,000
I

1478
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,599
>> everyone's blurry. I think I'm going to

1479
00:58:11,599 --> 00:58:13,200
get my eyes fixed like in a couple

1480
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:13,760
months. There's

1481
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:14,559
>> Oh, it's life. Let's

1482
00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:17,359
>> tell it.

1483
00:58:17,359 --> 00:58:19,920
>> Um I've got a complicated situation.

1484
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:20,400
Lifeanging.

1485
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,480
>> Oh, it is life changing. [laughter]

1486
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,160
>> I I was born with something that they

1487
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,910
have yet to cure. So, um hopefully

1488
00:58:26,910 --> 00:58:27,680
[laughter]

1489
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,400
>> hopefully

1490
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,319
um so dev service on the end there. So,

1491
00:58:32,319 --> 00:58:34,480
use of fund balance. Same concept there.

1492
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,559
We're able to use some of our we got a a

1493
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:37,760
fund balance we've been carrying in our

1494
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,520
debt service one. Why have a fund

1495
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,440
balance? Like let's put that to work.

1496
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:41,760
>> Yeah.

1497
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,839
>> Um so again, we're we're able to lower

1498
00:58:43,839 --> 00:58:46,160
some of our transfers from the general

1499
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,160
fund as a result of using some of that

1500
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,799
fund balance. Um

1501
00:58:50,799 --> 00:58:52,720
any anything else you'd add, Mir any of

1502
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,000
those?

1503
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,520
>> No, that's only about half of the fund

1504
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:56,880
balance. So

1505
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,599
>> I mean it's not depleting it.

1506
00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:02,079
>> It's not depleting it. There's really no

1507
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:03,920
rhyme or reason to have it anyways, but

1508
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,599
so we could use it all if you guys want,

1509
00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:07,680
but we just started with half.

1510
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,920
>> I kind of I kind of like using a little

1511
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,599
bit this year, maybe a little bit in the

1512
00:59:11,599 --> 00:59:14,799
future just because it eases us into

1513
00:59:14,799 --> 00:59:16,691
um

1514
00:59:16,691 --> 00:59:18,319
[clears throat] you know, if we lower

1515
00:59:18,319 --> 00:59:20,240
the general fund transfer all in one

1516
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:21,920
thing this year, it's going to be a

1517
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,040
little more painful next year. Um

1518
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,119
potentially the way I I see it. So maybe

1519
00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:29,119
we can ease into it, lower it a little

1520
00:59:29,119 --> 00:59:30,400
bit this year because it's a big year

1521
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,640
with what we're already looking at with

1522
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,760
truth and taxation. But yeah, Min's

1523
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,200
absolutely right. Like we could use it's

1524
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:43,510
all there for us to use. Um and

1525
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,680
thanks. All right. So capital projects

1526
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:51,359
fund. Um the top one there is the long

1527
00:59:51,359 --> 00:59:54,640
discussed operation center. Um, most of

1528
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,319
the operation center is going to be paid

1529
00:59:56,319 --> 00:59:57,920
for out of the enterprise fund because

1530
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,960
it's it's power, it's water, utility

1531
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,400
fees that would pay for that, but

1532
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:03,839
there's a little bit that does get used

1533
01:00:03,839 --> 01:00:05,359
by parks and and some of the general

1534
01:00:05,359 --> 01:00:09,040
fund uh departments. And so, this

1535
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,359
represents some of that cost. There's

1536
01:00:11,359 --> 01:00:13,119
really two ways we can look at operation

1537
01:00:13,119 --> 01:00:16,000
center. Um, we'd like to pull the

1538
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,599
trigger and just start working on that.

1539
01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:18,799
It's it's only going to get more

1540
01:00:18,799 --> 01:00:21,359
expensive. We found a much more cost-e

1541
01:00:21,359 --> 01:00:22,960
effective way to handle the needs right

1542
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,960
now than what was proposed a couple of

1543
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,319
years ago when we were looking at close

1544
01:00:26,319 --> 01:00:31,119
to $40 million project. But um the 966

1545
01:00:31,119 --> 01:00:33,520
966,000 that represents if we go ahead

1546
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:34,880
and pull the trigger on doing the whole

1547
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,680
thing. Um which entails the operation

1548
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,760
center expansion.

1549
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,319
Um also we've got asphalt that's 30

1550
01:00:42,319 --> 01:00:45,440
years old now that needs to be replaced.

1551
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,040
and and the one that's the most

1552
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,559
important and I should probably turn

1553
01:00:48,559 --> 01:00:50,559
this over to

1554
01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:53,040
Cole and Moren to talk about, but it's

1555
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,760
that fuel island. Um, you might recall

1556
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,880
we were approached by the state uh last

1557
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,920
year that we have no choice but to bring

1558
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,200
that fuel island up to code or up to

1559
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,799
state um regulations standards. So, we

1560
01:01:08,799 --> 01:01:11,599
have to do that. Um, I believe, correct

1561
01:01:11,599 --> 01:01:13,839
me if I'm wrong, we have to do the

1562
01:01:13,839 --> 01:01:15,839
deadline's technically July of this

1563
01:01:15,839 --> 01:01:19,119
year, but we understand that there's a

1564
01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:21,520
>> they'll give us a six-month extension.

1565
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,760
So, otherwise, if we don't do anything,

1566
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,280
they'll cut off, they'll red tag our

1567
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,920
fuel, and so our fuel won't be able to

1568
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,680
be delivered to the operation center.

1569
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,640
So, effectively, we will be cut off from

1570
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:36,160
all fuel access at the off center um

1571
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:37,200
because of our

1572
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,000
>> So, everybody comes. Yeah. Yeah. Fire

1573
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,000
station

1574
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,839
get real busy

1575
01:01:43,839 --> 01:01:46,240
at the fire station.

1576
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:49,920
>> Fire station isn't quite as big. So

1577
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:50,640
more often

1578
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,079
>> have a refueling truck there and it's

1579
01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:54,559
just not convenient to travel to the

1580
01:01:54,559 --> 01:01:55,920
motors and track.

1581
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,200
>> Yeah. Generally some parks in mainly bus

1582
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,470
and police.

1583
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,280
That's that's the one we have to do.

1584
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,200
>> Just like the government

1585
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:12,640
otherwise um we get red tag by the state

1586
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:13,839
of Medicare. So

1587
01:02:13,839 --> 01:02:16,160
>> it basically boils down to our pipe pipe

1588
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,270
is underground

1589
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:26,710
protection because it has no protection

1590
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,200
» there's no work on replacing any gadget.

1591
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:29,839
So

1592
01:02:29,839 --> 01:02:31,839
>> is there issue with it safely or

1593
01:02:31,839 --> 01:02:32,480
environmental [clears throat]

1594
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:32,799
like

1595
01:02:32,799 --> 01:02:34,240
>> environmental the gas leaking?

1596
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:35,280
>> I mean not that it matters. I'm just

1597
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:35,839
curious

1598
01:02:35,839 --> 01:02:38,000
>> gas leaking in the ground. It can't be

1599
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:41,040
and the pipes are you know 30 35 years

1600
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,839
old and so the tank itself is getting

1601
01:02:43,839 --> 01:02:46,240
water in the outer shell. [snorts]

1602
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:47,200
So

1603
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:48,559
>> reuse that tank

1604
01:02:48,559 --> 01:02:51,280
>> but the main driver is the underground

1605
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,960
fuel line. So

1606
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,240
>> then

1607
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,160
>> I think we'll we'll get into the

1608
01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,839
operations center probably a little bit

1609
01:02:59,839 --> 01:03:01,920
more right M we're cold next time

1610
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:02,880
because we'll be talking about

1611
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,720
enterprise fund and that's that's where

1612
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:06,079
the bulk of

1613
01:03:06,079 --> 01:03:07,760
>> that's going to come out of but we did

1614
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,200
want to highlight that some of that is

1615
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,520
going to be coming out of general fund.

1616
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:11,920
So

1617
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:12,960
>> no capital projects

1618
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:17,599
>> or sorry thank you capital projects. Um

1619
01:03:17,599 --> 01:03:21,200
>> so Jason what does the or mean? Um um it

1620
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,720
just means okay so we can either do the

1621
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,960
operation center the whole thing which

1622
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:28,880
includes the fuel island or we can just

1623
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,720
do the fuel island only but we have to

1624
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,400
do at least the fuel island because of

1625
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,240
what we were just got

1626
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:35,760
>> what was just describing

1627
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,119
>> sure like column

1628
01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:38,319
>> good question

1629
01:03:38,319 --> 01:03:39,599
>> like I'll choose the 60 that's

1630
01:03:39,599 --> 01:03:41,520
definitely no um

1631
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,079
>> so 966 or 60,000 right

1632
01:03:44,079 --> 01:03:44,960
>> that's our choice

1633
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:46,554
>> either

1634
01:03:46,554 --> 01:03:47,359
[laughter] well

1635
01:03:47,359 --> 01:03:48,000
>> got it

1636
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,079
>> although keep in mind that the 960 66 is

1637
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:51,520
just going to go up and up and up every

1638
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,119
year if we don't tackle that operation

1639
01:03:53,119 --> 01:03:53,839
center. So,

1640
01:03:53,839 --> 01:03:54,720
>> okay.

1641
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,000
>> Have a longterm view when you're looking

1642
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:56,960
at the

1643
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:01,280
>> the first one like just an example our asphalt out there. Josh is the

1644
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,319
asphalt expert, but it's

1645
01:04:04,319 --> 01:04:06,079
>> sturdy

1646
01:04:06,079 --> 01:04:09,680
with no treatments on it. So, it's just

1647
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,440
granted it's at the center and you know

1648
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,000
it's not public but we have a lot of

1649
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,000
>> Yeah. But it's wear and tear on trucks

1650
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:20,240
and tires [snorts] and people, right?

1651
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:21,280
And Cole, do you want to talk about

1652
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:22,960
those other two? West Davis corridor and

1653
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,000
the other improvements.

1654
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,520
>> Sure. The West Davis corridor is the

1655
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,559
money that we're getting from uh UDOT

1656
01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:33,359
for the West Davis for Trail. Currently have RFQ out

1657
01:04:33,359 --> 01:04:36,319
right now. Um came this month to select

1658
01:04:36,319 --> 01:04:38,640
the landscape architect to work with us.

1659
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,160
I'm cutting up some designs.

1660
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:41,039
>> Excuse [clears throat] me.

1661
01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:44,160
>> So that's 630,000. Uh once we have a

1662
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,799
plan in place, we submit that to UD for

1663
01:04:46,799 --> 01:04:49,760
approval. They'll give us a a first

1664
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,160
chall of 315,000

1665
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,480
that we can then use to start our trans

1666
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,440
then the remaining 13 or 315,000 from UD

1667
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,440
do is a reimbursement meaning we spend

1668
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:03,280
it UD do reimburse reimbures us. So on

1669
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,200
that project we're only project we're

1670
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,160
only spending the 630,000 which is what

1671
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:12,240
UD do um has awarded us for that. So and

1672
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,000
that project has to be completed by

1673
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,400
September of 2027.

1674
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:20,240
Um, and so, uh, once we get an architect

1675
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,640
on board, we'll come with some concept

1676
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:26,160
ideas, um, some spot improvements that

1677
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:27,760
we can do, whether it's at trail heads,

1678
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,640
intersection or the onoff ramps, um,

1679
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,680
some way finding signage, um, things

1680
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:35,520
like that. So, it's yet to be determined

1681
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,160
what that actually will look like, but,

1682
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,280
uh, that's what that is. And then the

1683
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,000
improvements, that's uh some park impact

1684
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,440
fee. Uh skate park, add another 200,000

1685
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:51,119
to what we're asking out of ramp just to

1686
01:05:51,119 --> 01:05:52,640
give the skatepark a little more

1687
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,039
sustenance, make it a little bit bigger.

1688
01:05:55,039 --> 01:05:58,000
And then crossing it just to continue to

1689
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,119
improve. Um it's a HOA park that we

1690
01:06:01,119 --> 01:06:03,440
inherited and so everything in that park

1691
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:04,559
is

1692
01:06:04,559 --> 01:06:07,039
>> from the HOA. So some of it doesn't meet

1693
01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:10,079
kind of what we do as our standards. So,

1694
01:06:10,079 --> 01:06:13,760
um that's just a nice stab of just doing

1695
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,720
some small improvements to that park.

1696
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:18,960
With that park with 950 North and

1697
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,319
Sunset, we do have that currently with

1698
01:06:22,319 --> 01:06:25,520
blue line design for master planning

1699
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,760
street and overall park improvements uh

1700
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,559
down the road.

1701
01:06:32,559 --> 01:06:35,520
Just the trash. to just shred our parts,

1702
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,520
removing our old wooden ones and going

1703
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,599
with the Disney ones we're putting in

1704
01:06:39,599 --> 01:06:42,799
that have branded cable city branding

1705
01:06:42,799 --> 01:06:45,920
and things like that. So

1706
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,760
trash are expensive.

1707
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:48,960
>> Yeah,

1708
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,039
>> just 50 grand. Holy cow.

1709
01:06:51,039 --> 01:06:52,880
>> I wish I thought we were expensive.

1710
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,440
>> We're talking about trash cans. Trash.

1711
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,520
>> Yeah, they're the the ones that hold the

1712
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,119
rubber liners in.

1713
01:06:59,119 --> 01:07:00,799
>> We have to put those in cuz the rubber

1714
01:07:00,799 --> 01:07:05,029
ones just roll all over. So

1715
01:07:05,039 --> 01:07:07,119
That also includes park ranches that

1716
01:07:07,119 --> 01:07:14,470
we're creating as well. So

1717
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:15,359
» good job.

1718
01:07:15,359 --> 01:07:17,440
>> Do we want to take a break or keep

1719
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:18,079
going?

1720
01:07:18,079 --> 01:07:22,319
>> Yeah. Um, we got 10:13. So

1721
01:07:22,319 --> 01:07:24,079
>> how's everyone keep going?

1722
01:07:24,079 --> 01:07:25,599
>> Yes, please.

1723
01:07:25,599 --> 01:07:26,640
>> Yeah. Push through.

1724
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:28,960
>> Energy up, man. Let's get

1725
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:30,720
>> This is This is good information.

1726
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,520
>> Wait. And I like the energy of

1727
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,400
>> He wants a He wants a monster.

1728
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,000
>> Okay. What did he just say?

1729
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:41,119
>> Give me a break.

1730
01:07:41,119 --> 01:07:43,039
>> He looks like he's completely

1731
01:07:43,039 --> 01:07:48,549
>> Wait. feels like he's stretch

1732
01:07:48,559 --> 01:07:50,240
like it's like

1733
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:54,136
>> let's go to council MEETING

1734
01:07:54,146 --> 01:07:58,069
[laughter]

1735
01:07:58,079 --> 01:08:03,349
down

1736
01:08:03,359 --> 01:08:06,559
» Mike loves hugs like

1737
01:08:06,559 --> 01:08:08,799
>> you know those pictures that they post

1738
01:08:08,799 --> 01:08:10,720
Mike's like this the whole time

1739
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:12,640
>> like literally standing like this arms

1740
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,480
bleed to the

1741
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,719
He doesn't make contact with any living.

1742
01:08:16,719 --> 01:08:19,120
>> Do not touch me.

1743
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:20,400
>> Nope. He does not.

1744
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,990
>> He's so funny.

1745
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,520
» This is actually really good. And I wish

1746
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,600
you would have just started bluff

1747
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,199
>> with what?

1748
01:08:29,199 --> 01:08:30,080
>> Bluff.

1749
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:31,440
>> Bottom line up front.

1750
01:08:31,440 --> 01:08:32,319
>> Oh, I'm sorry.

1751
01:08:32,319 --> 01:08:34,319
>> I'm not reading a 38 page email. Give me

1752
01:08:34,319 --> 01:08:34,960
two sentences.

1753
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:36,080
>> I know this is going to be good news.

1754
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,799
That's why I'm excited to get to it.

1755
01:08:38,799 --> 01:08:40,080
>> But I think I'm the only one that knows

1756
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:40,799
this.

1757
01:08:40,799 --> 01:15:15,110
>> This is one of the best. Good news.

1758
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:32,470
Are you

1759
01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:41,157
speaking like

1760
01:15:41,167 --> 01:15:43,750
[music]

1761
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,159
» Okay, I think we'll go ahead and get

1762
01:15:46,159 --> 01:15:52,292
back to uh back to business.

1763
01:15:52,302 --> 01:15:58,229
» [snorts]

1764
01:15:58,239 --> 01:15:59,199
» Oh, please.

1765
01:15:59,199 --> 01:16:01,120
>> Okay, this is what maybe we should have

1766
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,120
started with. This is the bottom line up

1767
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,560
front, but not up front. [laughter]

1768
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:07,920
>> Bottom line up middle.

1769
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:08,800
>> Bottom line. Get it.

1770
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:10,960
>> Bottom line at the end.

1771
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,280
>> Middle.

1772
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:17,199
>> Uh, all right. So, total gap. We started

1773
01:16:17,199 --> 01:16:19,520
here with a $3.5 million gap and

1774
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:22,480
actually was worse before we

1775
01:16:22,480 --> 01:16:23,840
>> cut a lot of things out of the budget

1776
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:28,320
but um so we we've talked about the

1777
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,960
$1,795,000

1778
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,120
that was the truth and taxation amount

1779
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:34,560
that we would have we should have

1780
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:37,840
brought in to the city this current year

1781
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,560
as we talked about didn't happen. Um, so

1782
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,560
we kind of started out in that $1.7

1783
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:44,719
million hole to begin with just to fund

1784
01:16:44,719 --> 01:16:47,920
current ongoing expenditures. That

1785
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:49,040
includes everything from just

1786
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:52,000
inflationary costs of what we've already

1787
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,719
got going on in the city plus the new

1788
01:16:54,719 --> 01:16:56,480
sergeant position and the deputy city

1789
01:16:56,480 --> 01:16:59,199
attorney that we added and of course the

1790
01:16:59,199 --> 01:17:02,960
um cost for the the gymnasium.

1791
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:04,480
So,

1792
01:17:04,480 --> 01:17:07,520
and on top of that $1.7 million hole, we

1793
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,000
had an additional deficit of 1.7 million

1794
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,880
from other just

1795
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:14,719
>> like we said, we're get there's

1796
01:17:14,719 --> 01:17:16,960
continuing inflationary costs, new

1797
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,600
requests, al those sorts of things. So,

1798
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,239
this is where we got creative and and

1799
01:17:22,239 --> 01:17:23,520
this is kind of just the tip of the

1800
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:24,960
iceberg. There was there was so much

1801
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,679
work done by Marin and Parker to kind of

1802
01:17:27,679 --> 01:17:29,760
figure things out and and look at every

1803
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,760
line item of the budget, find ways to

1804
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,320
fund things, but we were able to reduce

1805
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,760
that gap um

1806
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,719
by by taking some fund balance out of a

1807
01:17:40,719 --> 01:17:42,159
few of those funds like we talked about.

1808
01:17:42,159 --> 01:17:44,320
MBA fund balance was there, debt service

1809
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:48,000
fund. Um then we're also proposing that

1810
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,760
we take out a million dollars out of our

1811
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,719
general fund reserves. Um that's what we

1812
01:17:52,719 --> 01:17:54,400
had proposed last year as well as a

1813
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,120
million dollars out. Um and so we're

1814
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:58,960
proposing that as a baseline. We take a

1815
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:00,719
million out and as a baseline we started

1816
01:18:00,719 --> 01:18:02,719
looking at the 32% getting that back

1817
01:18:02,719 --> 01:18:05,280
what we should have gotten and on top of

1818
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,679
pulling out like I said MBA debt service

1819
01:18:07,679 --> 01:18:11,280
and public safety impact fees. So where

1820
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,679
that puts us is a proposed truth and

1821
01:18:13,679 --> 01:18:16,719
taxation of 33.95%.

1822
01:18:16,719 --> 01:18:18,560
That that would fund everything that

1823
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:22,299
we've just thrown at you. Um,

1824
01:18:22,299 --> 01:18:23,679
[snorts]

1825
01:18:23,679 --> 01:18:25,520
so not not too bad considering we're

1826
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:27,040
getting quite a bit out of out of that.

1827
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:28,719
We're getting the new position, the

1828
01:18:28,719 --> 01:18:31,120
deputy chief position

1829
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:34,159
and uh the the HR specialist and all the

1830
01:18:34,159 --> 01:18:34,800
other

1831
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:36,400
>> No, we haven't shown them yet.

1832
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:37,840
>> Inflation costs,

1833
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,239
>> but that is not and and knowing that we

1834
01:18:40,239 --> 01:18:42,880
did not get any taxes last year. Our

1835
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:44,239
taxes actually went down a little bit

1836
01:18:44,239 --> 01:18:44,880
last year.

1837
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:45,360
>> Correct.

1838
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:45,760
>> Right.

1839
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,360
>> Just so that people know, this is not a

1840
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,800
double tax year situation. We're not We

1841
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,560
didn't get anything last year,

1842
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:54,800
>> right? Yeah. Great point. LA and that's

1843
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:55,920
something that's going to be a big

1844
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:57,679
challenge with just making sure we're

1845
01:18:57,679 --> 01:19:00,159
communicating to the public. You're

1846
01:19:00,159 --> 01:19:01,600
there was a lot of talk about raising

1847
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,040
taxes last year for the different

1848
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:04,560
projects, the gymnasium, everything

1849
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,520
else. But in reality, what happened, of

1850
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,080
course, was our tax rate actually went

1851
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:13,760
down last year a little bit. So, as far

1852
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:16,880
as revenue goes, um on the the box there

1853
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,040
to the right,

1854
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:20,719
um

1855
01:19:20,719 --> 01:19:23,520
so that we're budgeting conservatively,

1856
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:27,120
a 2% sales tax is what we've kind of

1857
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:28,960
seen as the trend for the last what 5

1858
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:32,000
years we're in. So, we feel like that's

1859
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:33,760
probably appropriate to just continue to

1860
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:37,360
budget 2%. Um,

1861
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:42,239
and then, uh, using more fund balance.

1862
01:19:42,239 --> 01:19:44,640
We've also got some new revenue sources

1863
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:46,560
that that are coming in. And thanks to

1864
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:48,880
Chief Ericson, uh, the wildland fire I

1865
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:49,840
don't know, Chief, you want to kind of

1866
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:51,920
talk about those two underlined items,

1867
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,000
the wildland fire revenue,

1868
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,080
>> the fire inspections. It it's actually

1869
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:58,880
surprising and and when I show these and

1870
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,760
you'll see it on the the 2025 rollup

1871
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:04,400
that I do next council meeting on the

1872
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:07,360
19th, but uh it's interesting just for a

1873
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,239
twoe deployment after we pay overtime

1874
01:20:10,239 --> 01:20:13,120
and we pay the individual wages, we end

1875
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:16,719
up making about 35 grand.

1876
01:20:16,719 --> 01:20:20,080
>> Yeah, it is. And and they only allow uh

1877
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,080
the system only allows you to go out two

1878
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,000
weeks at a time. Now, if we stayed four

1879
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:25,840
weeks, we can go send another crew to

1880
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,640
replace them. But yeah, to have and we

1881
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,199
don't do the we would actually make less

1882
01:20:31,199 --> 01:20:33,440
money sending a brush truck. So, we send

1883
01:20:33,440 --> 01:20:35,679
a paramedic ambulance and it's it's been

1884
01:20:35,679 --> 01:20:36,800
very good for us.

1885
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,320
>> And the guys make money and

1886
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:39,679
>> Yeah. They make money

1887
01:20:39,679 --> 01:20:40,400
>> and the city

1888
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:41,440
>> and everybody's happy.

1889
01:20:41,440 --> 01:20:41,679
>> Yeah.

1890
01:20:41,679 --> 01:20:42,640
>> To be honest with you.

1891
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:43,199
>> So smart

1892
01:20:43,199 --> 01:20:46,320
>> because we end up getting about 78 bucks

1893
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,080
an hour for a paramedic.

1894
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:48,560
>> That's great.

1895
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:51,280
>> And they're they work 16our days is what

1896
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:52,960
they can put down on. So

1897
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:54,320
>> and that's what you kept that older

1898
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:55,120
ambulance for.

1899
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:56,560
>> That's why we kept the older ambulance.

1900
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:57,280
That is correct.

1901
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:58,800
>> So smart and good experience for them

1902
01:20:58,800 --> 01:20:59,360
too.

1903
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,120
>> But we've had to take some money our

1904
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,280
initial year and not to just keep going

1905
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,920
on about this. Sorry. But uh that

1906
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,360
initial year we had to buy sleeping

1907
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:09,600
bags. Then we had to buy some tents and

1908
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:11,920
stuff like that. So that's all factored

1909
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,640
in when I show you this slide. Uh so we

1910
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:16,320
don't have any of those overhead costs

1911
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,800
anymore, right? So, and then we used

1912
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,120
that money to buy a life pack for that

1913
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:22,560
air pack because you have to have one

1914
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,320
and life packs aren't cheap as you well

1915
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,760
know. Um, and then we just put a slide

1916
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:31,199
system in. We didn't buy this $63,000

1917
01:21:31,199 --> 01:21:33,360
auto loader system. We already had a

1918
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,840
gurnie and we spent 9 grand and just

1919
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:37,840
bought a load system in there.

1920
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,840
>> So, in case they had to transport. So,

1921
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:41,920
we saved a lot of money just doing that.

1922
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:42,400
>> That's fantastic.

1923
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,199
>> But, it's paid for itself as far as

1924
01:21:45,199 --> 01:21:48,000
being tall. No, that no, we still are

1925
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:51,430
being recorded,

1926
01:21:51,440 --> 01:21:53,199
» but it's been good. Thank you. And then

1927
01:21:53,199 --> 01:21:54,800
we haven't been charged on that last one

1928
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,000
there. We haven't been charging

1929
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,000
inspection fees. Our inspection fee has

1930
01:21:58,000 --> 01:21:59,520
been there. We haven't changed anything.

1931
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,600
It's been here since even before my

1932
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,000
time. Uh so now we're just enforcing it.

1933
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:04,960
That's all.

1934
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:06,639
>> And that's that's based on how many

1935
01:22:06,639 --> 01:22:10,639
businesses that we inspect. So

1936
01:22:10,639 --> 01:22:12,320
>> that's normal.

1937
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,400
>> Oh yeah. Yeah. Totally. we we get

1938
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:15,280
charged. And

1939
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:16,400
>> I'm just going to throw this in there

1940
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,120
from a facility standpoint. I do really

1941
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:22,000
appreciate Chief and uh

1942
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,320
>> Sean Sean coming through and doing these

1943
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,880
in inspections of our own facilities

1944
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,360
because it does make a difference for us

1945
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,360
just having someone coming in and

1946
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:34,400
inspecting our own facilities regularly.

1947
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,560
So, just a shout out to that. Well,

1948
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:39,840
thank you. Cuz Sean has really he's

1949
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:41,440
really helped out the past year and a

1950
01:22:41,440 --> 01:22:43,840
half, you know, hiring him part time. He

1951
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:45,840
knows what he's doing. He's, you know,

1952
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,560
he's a captain out of Hill and he's he

1953
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,719
just he does a great job.

1954
01:22:50,719 --> 01:22:52,480
>> He's been very helpful for us.

1955
01:22:52,480 --> 01:22:55,199
>> Not good. Good.

1956
01:22:55,199 --> 01:22:56,639
>> An angry man half the time.

1957
01:22:56,639 --> 01:22:58,639
>> Uh, next slide. [clears throat]

1958
01:22:58,639 --> 01:23:01,920
>> So, what does that do to us in terms of

1959
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:03,600
compared to other cities? We're

1960
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:05,840
currently have been for many years the

1961
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,800
third lowest tax rate in Davis County of

1962
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:13,679
the 15 cities. If this uh 33.95%

1963
01:23:13,679 --> 01:23:15,280
increase were to go into effect, it

1964
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:18,560
would put us at the eighth of 15 cities

1965
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,719
between Syracuse and Centerville. And

1966
01:23:20,719 --> 01:23:22,320
this is assuming that none of these

1967
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,159
other cities adjust

1968
01:23:24,159 --> 01:23:26,560
>> yeah their their rates. So we expect

1969
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:27,679
that a lot of cities are going to be

1970
01:23:27,679 --> 01:23:29,120
adjusting their rates. So even with the

1971
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:30,639
33.95%

1972
01:23:30,639 --> 01:23:32,239
we still may be lower than what it's

1973
01:23:32,239 --> 01:23:35,600
showing um right there. But just to kind

1974
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,840
of give you a little bit of reference

1975
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,560
how we would be doing

1976
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,360
and uh all right items being funded.

1977
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,120
This is you know we talked about using

1978
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:46,719
about a million dollars of fund balance.

1979
01:23:46,719 --> 01:23:48,400
This is the these are the major projects

1980
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:49,840
that we're talking about using fund

1981
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:51,760
balance for. We try to stick to one-time

1982
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,480
type projects um because you can't rely

1983
01:23:54,480 --> 01:23:56,560
on fund balance to fund ongoing things

1984
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:59,440
obviously um and I might just turn that

1985
01:23:59,440 --> 01:24:00,800
over to department heads to kind of talk

1986
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,320
about these different projects. So,

1987
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,000
um, maybe starting with government

1988
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,600
buildings up in the upper left.

1989
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:09,199
>> All right. So, government buildings are

1990
01:24:09,199 --> 01:24:11,920
two items there. The fire department, we

1991
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,880
have a a stuckco issue on the would be

1992
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,520
the souththeast corner of the building

1993
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,159
over there by the generator area. For a

1994
01:24:20,159 --> 01:24:21,840
lot of years, we have issues with the

1995
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,400
roof and runoff. It would actually run

1996
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,120
down the wall. Uh, the stuckco is

1997
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:28,800
actually starting to uh, well, it has

1998
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:30,960
been for a while. Uh, but that's

1999
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,600
repairing the stucco on that whole north

2000
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:35,440
or southeast corner of the building over

2001
01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:38,480
in the generator area. Um, anticipating

2002
01:24:38,480 --> 01:24:43,040
that once we tear that off, we may find some

2003
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:45,040
>> potentially some more issues that we

2004
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:48,239
maybe weren't aware of. So, um, we have

2005
01:24:48,239 --> 01:24:49,679
fixed the roof. The roof up there now

2006
01:24:49,679 --> 01:24:52,080
has a gutter, so it pulls the rain away

2007
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,000
from from the actual side of the

2008
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,560
building. Uh, and then the HVAC

2009
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,639
replacement and upgrades. It's just a

2010
01:24:58,639 --> 01:25:01,360
continual thing with just the size of

2011
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:05,120
our facilities is uh HVAC upgrades. Uh,

2012
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:06,560
I've got two units over in the

2013
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,880
recreation building. Um, one of them

2014
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:11,280
they're twinning off each other. One of

2015
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:14,560
the twins is uh not working.

2016
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,360
Unfortunately, this winter we had a mild

2017
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,600
winter, so we didn't need the heat that

2018
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,239
it normally would would pump out. So, we

2019
01:25:22,239 --> 01:25:24,639
have that. I have one unit at the fire

2020
01:25:24,639 --> 01:25:27,040
station that uh we're watching and then

2021
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:28,800
there's one more unit of the operation

2022
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:32,639
center. It's a RTU rooftop unit that uh

2023
01:25:32,639 --> 01:25:34,400
is

2024
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:37,600
original to the building 1992.

2025
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:41,679
So it's uh so those are the the two big

2026
01:25:41,679 --> 01:25:44,639
items from government buildings.

2027
01:25:44,639 --> 01:25:46,639
So

2028
01:25:46,639 --> 01:25:48,000
>> Chief, you want to talk about the camera

2029
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:49,280
for the bay there?

2030
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:50,400
>> Yeah, I didn't know it was going to be

2031
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:51,920
on here. We were just going to take it

2032
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:53,760
from our our uh

2033
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:54,560
>> Oh, that's right.

2034
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:56,000
>> our building. So,

2035
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:57,280
>> that's right. I forgot that.

2036
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:58,960
>> I don't need to do anymore. Yeah.

2037
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:00,320
>> Perfect. So, that might actually be

2038
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:00,800
going away.

2039
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:02,639
>> We we don't have any cameras in our bays

2040
01:26:02,639 --> 01:26:03,360
on the south side.

2041
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:04,000
>> Oh, you don't?

2042
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,080
>> No. So, we're going to put cameras on

2043
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,239
the south side. And then we we do have

2044
01:26:08,239 --> 01:26:11,920
quite a few accidents uh out out in

2045
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:13,360
front of our building and stuff. So, it'

2046
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:14,719
be nice to have a camera out there.

2047
01:26:14,719 --> 01:26:15,440
>> Oh, yeah.

2048
01:26:15,440 --> 01:26:16,719
>> That's all.

2049
01:26:16,719 --> 01:26:18,800
>> Plus, don't you get like uh sometimes

2050
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:19,679
people walking in there?

2051
01:26:19,679 --> 01:26:23,840
>> Oh, no. high school kids. It's awesome.

2052
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:25,679
>> We want them to be safe.

2053
01:26:25,679 --> 01:26:26,719
>> Yes, we do.

2054
01:26:26,719 --> 01:26:28,800
>> That's right. [snorts]

2055
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:30,320
>> Uh [clears throat] information systems.

2056
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,280
Uh Ryan, you want to talk about those?

2057
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:36,880
>> Yeah. So, um I'm proposing that we that

2058
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,280
we install a

2059
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,679
or we renovate this AV system in this

2060
01:26:41,679 --> 01:26:44,800
room. Um we have quite a few technical

2061
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:46,400
problems

2062
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,639
um with the system.

2063
01:26:48,639 --> 01:26:51,520
It's uh it's been problematic for

2064
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,120
several years actually since we

2065
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:54,800
installed the system. It was installed

2066
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:59,520
with um it was installed in 2021 and we

2067
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:01,679
just just at the time that the city was

2068
01:27:01,679 --> 01:27:05,040
built or the the the city hall was was

2069
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:09,360
uh renovated and at the time they put in

2070
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:13,280
um near end of life equipment. And so in

2071
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,560
order for us to fix this some of the

2072
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:17,760
problems we're having, technical

2073
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,639
problems, it's going to um require us to

2074
01:27:20,639 --> 01:27:23,600
replace that that backend equipment. So

2075
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:25,760
it's it's rather expensive, but we'd

2076
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:27,679
like to improve some things, too. We

2077
01:27:27,679 --> 01:27:30,159
want to drop the the mic the speakers so

2078
01:27:30,159 --> 01:27:33,040
they're pendant mics. Um there's a lot

2079
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,040
of reverb in this in this space and we

2080
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:38,239
have lots of complaints with um audio.

2081
01:27:38,239 --> 01:27:40,480
So, um,

2082
01:27:40,480 --> 01:27:41,360
>> perfect.

2083
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:44,080
>> That's that's that's basically there.

2084
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:46,239
>> So, just a

2085
01:27:46,239 --> 01:27:48,320
>> question. I know we spent a lot of money

2086
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,400
when we did this addition to put all

2087
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,880
this special audio and video equipment

2088
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:53,920
in this room.

2089
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:54,320
>> Yeah.

2090
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:55,920
>> We've already spent Is there no

2091
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:59,520
warranty, no nothing? No guarantee. I

2092
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:03,440
mean, we spend a lot of extra money. You had to spend a lot of extra money

2093
01:28:03,440 --> 01:28:05,840
for this room. So, so it's an

2094
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:10,239
interesting topic and discussion, but we actually went out to the to the

2095
01:28:10,239 --> 01:28:13,520
vendor and um we asked them to fix it.

2096
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:15,736
Um they did do some things. We

2097
01:28:15,736 --> 01:28:18,080
[clears throat] we we did upgrade these

2098
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,000
mics here. So, the mics we're using

2099
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,960
today um but there was some problems

2100
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:25,360
with these these mics at the DIS and we

2101
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:29,600
replaced those. Um,

2102
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:32,560
we um

2103
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:36,696
we we uh need to

2104
01:28:36,696 --> 01:28:37,280
[snorts]

2105
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:38,719
I lost a train of thought where I was

2106
01:28:38,719 --> 01:28:41,760
going, but um we did spend a lot of

2107
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,000
money. We we actually went out to um

2108
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,639
pull audio and had them reprogram this

2109
01:28:46,639 --> 01:28:48,960
whole system because there was there was

2110
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,040
a lot of problems and and problems with

2111
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,600
bugs in the system. And so they came in,

2112
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,080
they reprogrammed it. um they spent six

2113
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:57,920
months doing it and at the end it really

2114
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,560
didn't fix it and we told them that we

2115
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:02,639
weren't going to pay them for the work.

2116
01:29:02,639 --> 01:29:06,159
And so so we've we put a lot of effort

2117
01:29:06,159 --> 01:29:09,600
into trying to fix it, but uh the real

2118
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:12,639
fixes are hardware and having another

2119
01:29:12,639 --> 01:29:14,800
vendor coming in and and reprogramming

2120
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:18,320
it. So it it it's unfortunate that the

2121
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:20,080
way that it was happening.

2122
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,880
>> Is that 115 the premier system or is

2123
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:24,960
that just sort of an average system?

2124
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:26,480
Good, better, best.

2125
01:29:26,480 --> 01:29:28,080
>> This would just be an average system.

2126
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:28,400
Yeah.

2127
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:30,000
>> For 115,000.

2128
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:31,520
>> Yeah.

2129
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:32,000
>> Wow.

2130
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:35,360
>> Yeah. 115. Um [sighs] the cost of this

2131
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:37,760
equipment is going up all the time.

2132
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:39,600
>> Yeah. When we put it in it was around

2133
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:43,679
40,000. Um but they put in inferior

2134
01:29:43,679 --> 01:29:45,040
equipment essentially. So,

2135
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:46,960
>> and we can't go back at all. There's

2136
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:48,080
it's been too long.

2137
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:51,199
>> No, we we've made efforts to do that,

2138
01:29:51,199 --> 01:29:53,840
but but uh it's not going to happen.

2139
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:56,159
>> They put in what was the spec.

2140
01:29:56,159 --> 01:29:57,440
>> Yeah.

2141
01:29:57,440 --> 01:29:58,320
>> Project. So,

2142
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:01,360
>> I thought we uh

2143
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:02,639
we upgraded.

2144
01:30:02,639 --> 01:30:02,880
>> Yeah.

2145
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:05,840
Okay. That's frustrating.

2146
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:07,600
>> But we know you've done your research.

2147
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:09,280
I'm not I'm not disparaging you. I'm

2148
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:10,400
just saying that's a frustrating

2149
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:11,360
situation.

2150
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:13,360
>> Yeah. [clears throat] It's it's uh it's

2151
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:16,159
really frustrating. We've had um

2152
01:30:16,159 --> 01:30:17,760
>> many council meetings. You guys don't

2153
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,639
see this because we fix it prior, but

2154
01:30:20,639 --> 01:30:22,639
>> um we're constantly having to reboot

2155
01:30:22,639 --> 01:30:23,760
this system

2156
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:25,840
>> and so pretty much every meeting we're

2157
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:28,239
rebooting it um in order for it to work.

2158
01:30:28,239 --> 01:30:30,080
But we've had many meetings where it

2159
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,560
just doesn't work or or it's problematic

2160
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:34,080
at the beginning and we have to come in

2161
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:36,560
and fix it. So, um it wasn't too long

2162
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:38,000
ago that we had a planning commission

2163
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:41,920
meeting where um the the meeting started

2164
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:46,000
and um it just wasn't recording and so

2165
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:49,120
they had to wait until I could get here.

2166
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:50,880
>> It was, you know, 30 minutes later

2167
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:54,560
before they started the meeting. So, um

2168
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:57,280
I think we've seen over the last year or

2169
01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:59,840
two that the system is continuing to

2170
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:03,280
degrade and and so there's some concern,

2171
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:04,719
you know, whether or not we're going to

2172
01:31:04,719 --> 01:31:06,239
continue to have more and more problems

2173
01:31:06,239 --> 01:31:07,760
with it. So,

2174
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:08,159
>> um

2175
01:31:08,159 --> 01:31:10,880
>> Okay. So,

2176
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:14,320
uh, I I think that this is this is

2177
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:16,320
probably

2178
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:19,360
like the highest estimate of cost and

2179
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:23,040
I'm hoping to, um, refine this as we get

2180
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:25,440
closer, as we get approval to move

2181
01:31:25,440 --> 01:31:25,840
forward,

2182
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:28,880
>> be fixed this calendar year potentially

2183
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:29,760
if you

2184
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:32,080
>> in 2027 calendar year. Yeah, we would

2185
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:38,550
fix it. Try. Yeah, we try to fix it. So,

2186
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:39,280
Okay.

2187
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:42,000
>> No, she's saying before December.

2188
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:43,280
>> That's what she means.

2189
01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:44,880
>> She means before December. She means

2190
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:46,960
before.

2191
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:48,719
>> I I realize this fiscal year starts in

2192
01:31:48,719 --> 01:31:51,679
July, but this year would it be fixed

2193
01:31:51,679 --> 01:31:53,199
this calendar year 2020?

2194
01:31:53,199 --> 01:31:54,560
>> Um, we would try to fix it. Yeah.

2195
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:56,400
Between Yeah, we would start July.

2196
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:56,639
>> Okay.

2197
01:31:56,639 --> 01:31:57,280
>> And then

2198
01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:01,840
>> Thank you for clarification, everyone.

2199
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:04,719
>> Perfect. uh you want to touch on any

2200
01:32:04,719 --> 01:32:06,639
software upgrade for the fuel system.

2201
01:32:06,639 --> 01:32:10,159
>> So in conjunction with the uh the fuel

2202
01:32:10,159 --> 01:32:13,600
um the capital fund fuel island

2203
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:15,679
um

2204
01:32:15,679 --> 01:32:22,239
the fleet departments asked that we upgrade their software for the

2205
01:32:22,239 --> 01:32:25,120
fuel system. Um it currently integrates

2206
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:30,239
with um our uh elements software which

2207
01:32:30,239 --> 01:32:35,040
is the fuel or which is the fleets

2208
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:38,400
um management software. And because the

2209
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:41,440
current fuel master software is is

2210
01:32:41,440 --> 01:32:43,280
really old, it's having a hard time

2211
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:46,719
interfacing with uh the the the

2212
01:32:46,719 --> 01:32:50,000
management software. Um but this would

2213
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:51,520
improve

2214
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:53,760
you know the overall

2215
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:58,480
management of the fuel system. So

2216
01:32:58,480 --> 01:33:02,719
that's the request from fleet.

2217
01:33:02,719 --> 01:33:04,480
>> Is that also because citrix is going

2218
01:33:04,480 --> 01:33:06,000
away too?

2219
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,000
>> Citrix Citrix is going away too. Yeah.

2220
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,320
>> So doesn't fuel master live on Citrix?

2221
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:12,719
>> Yes it does. Yeah. Yeah. So actually

2222
01:33:12,719 --> 01:33:14,159
yeah we're in the process of getting rid

2223
01:33:14,159 --> 01:33:16,960
of Citrix. So, Citrix does have a cost

2224
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:19,280
and that would Yeah, it would it

2225
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:22,320
wouldn't like replace the cost, but it

2226
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:24,560
would just be something we would remove

2227
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:30,080
from how we're running it. Yeah, this this software is all web- based.

2228
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,560
So, it would just just run, you know, in

2229
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:35,120
a on a web browser essentially. We would

2230
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:36,560
have a backend server where it all

2231
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:39,440
connects to and um but the guts of the

2232
01:33:39,440 --> 01:33:41,760
pedestal would be updated in this as a

2233
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:44,719
part of this. So, yeah.

2234
01:33:44,719 --> 01:33:46,239
I think it's a good time to do it. If

2235
01:33:46,239 --> 01:33:48,000
we're going to do, you know, an upgrade

2236
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:51,920
to the fuel system, we're going to do an

2237
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:54,000
upgrade to the fuel island, then we

2238
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,159
might as well just make an upgrade to

2239
01:33:56,159 --> 01:33:57,760
the software and bring it up to a

2240
01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:01,600
standard. So, um, you want me to move to

2241
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:02,320
the next one?

2242
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:02,639
>> Yeah.

2243
01:34:02,639 --> 01:34:04,960
>> So, the UPS battery backup for the

2244
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:07,520
police station. Um, we've had a couple

2245
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:10,639
battery backups fail in the last year,

2246
01:34:10,639 --> 01:34:12,719
um, at the police station.

2247
01:34:12,719 --> 01:34:18,000
um we replaced those with batteries that we had in other buildings and so we

2248
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:21,040
kind of scabbed uh together a fix. Um

2249
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:23,199
but these batteries were installed in

2250
01:34:23,199 --> 01:34:26,080
2018 when the building was put together.

2251
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:29,840
So they just need to be replaced. Um

2252
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:32,320
yeah,

2253
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,560
I think

2254
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:37,440
>> what is a UPS battery backup?

2255
01:34:37,440 --> 01:34:39,760
So the

2256
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:41,840
>> the the police station currently has a

2257
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:43,040
generator.

2258
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:43,360
>> Okay.

2259
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:45,280
>> And the generator supplies power when

2260
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:46,880
the power goes out to the police

2261
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:47,440
station.

2262
01:34:47,440 --> 01:34:48,320
>> Yep.

2263
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,560
>> And but the time that it takes the

2264
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:52,480
generator to kick on and the and and the

2265
01:34:52,480 --> 01:34:57,840
time the power goes out and that's what the battery backup protects.

2266
01:34:57,840 --> 01:34:58,639
It

2267
01:34:58,639 --> 01:35:00,800
>> it protects those few minutes between

2268
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:02,880
the generator and the and the power

2269
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:06,800
going out. That way I know.

2270
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:09,199
Okay, thank you. No more questions.

2271
01:35:09,199 --> 01:35:09,760
>> Thanks.

2272
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:11,600
>> Apparently, Seth is not part of this

2273
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:12,239
team.

2274
01:35:12,239 --> 01:35:13,440
>> No more questions. [laughter]

2275
01:35:13,440 --> 01:35:16,719
>> Seth installed the audio visual.

2276
01:35:16,719 --> 01:35:19,526
>> Oh, that's what the audio visual system.

2277
01:35:19,526 --> 01:35:21,199
[laughter]

2278
01:35:21,199 --> 01:35:21,840
>> Thank you, Sam.

2279
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:23,360
>> I was going to use this when it was my

2280
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,120
turn.

2281
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:27,520
>> Good demonstration.

2282
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,660
>> Yeah. No questions for police.

2283
01:35:30,660 --> 01:35:31,040
[laughter]

2284
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:34,149
>> Correct.

2285
01:35:34,159 --> 01:35:37,679
Mission accomplished. Uh actually, Cole,

2286
01:35:37,679 --> 01:35:39,280
do you want to try uh talk about these

2287
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:40,000
ones?

2288
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:43,040
>> Parks parks uh Barnes tower. In this

2289
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:45,520
current budget year, we were uh we got

2290
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:48,239
some money to do some starting our tower

2291
01:35:48,239 --> 01:35:50,719
upgrade tower. The concrete upgrades to

2292
01:35:50,719 --> 01:35:53,520
our Barnes Tower. Barnes Park was built

2293
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:57,120
originally up in 1990 in the early

2294
01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:58,800
199091.

2295
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:00,719
Um with the tens of thousand people, we

2296
01:36:00,719 --> 01:36:02,400
have a lot of tripping hazard. We got a

2297
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:03,600
lot of settling and movement in our

2298
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:05,520
concrete on the upper deck, which is

2299
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:07,760
what we call the tower up there at

2300
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:09,520
Barnes. So, we we did some things this

2301
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:12,880
year uh to alleviate some of our most

2302
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:15,040
concerning trip hazards, but we

2303
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:16,960
continually have just a lot of issues

2304
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:20,239
with uneven concrete and with the tens

2305
01:36:20,239 --> 01:36:21,440
of thousands of people are out there

2306
01:36:21,440 --> 01:36:24,560
weekly, um we're just it's an, you know,

2307
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:27,120
an accident waiting to happen. Um so

2308
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:30,000
that request is just to continue to move

2309
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:34,239
forward with um replacing some concrete

2310
01:36:34,239 --> 01:36:36,239
tripping hazards. We thought the money

2311
01:36:36,239 --> 01:36:37,600
we had this year would go a little bit

2312
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:40,000
farther than it than it did, but just

2313
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:42,159
the way the costs are, it didn't go

2314
01:36:42,159 --> 01:36:45,280
quite as far as we um were hoping. We

2315
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:46,239
knew that this was going to be a

2316
01:36:46,239 --> 01:36:49,920
multi-year project anyways. Um so that's

2317
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:53,199
what that money would be for. Barnes

2318
01:36:53,199 --> 01:36:55,280
Park Pavilion restroom shingles and rock

2319
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:58,080
replacement. The Barnes Park pavilion is

2320
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:00,080
pavilion one. The restroom shingles are

2321
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:03,520
on the main restroom. The old restroom

2322
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:06,400
that was built 1986. Um just the

2323
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:09,600
asphalt's degraded. Um

2324
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:11,760
it's just in time for new new shingles

2325
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:15,360
and new roof um on those facilities. And

2326
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:17,679
then the rock replacement is at Pioneer

2327
01:37:17,679 --> 01:37:20,000
Park on the pavilion. Even though it's a

2328
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,080
new park, the uh the rocking was

2329
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:24,000
installed on the columns and the stuff

2330
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:27,199
around there is uh just falling off. And

2331
01:37:27,199 --> 01:37:29,840
what we've learned is just the way that

2332
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:31,520
it was installed originally and it was

2333
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:34,800
installed by Masons and um their labor

2334
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:38,239
warranty was only um a year and so

2335
01:37:38,239 --> 01:37:39,840
there's no warranty.

2336
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:42,800
>> There was no warranty left on that. So

2337
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:47,040
the the new masons that we've talked to give us some quotes uh their

2338
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:49,119
recommendation is we pull all the rock

2339
01:37:49,119 --> 01:37:52,639
off, take the existing mortar, um either

2340
01:37:52,639 --> 01:37:55,040
it's it's a flat mortar or a flat rock

2341
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:58,000
and just gluing it, sticking it back on

2342
01:37:58,000 --> 01:37:59,760
isn't going to solve the the long-term

2343
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:02,719
problem. So it's taking it off, tearing

2344
01:38:02,719 --> 01:38:04,960
the existing mortar bed off and then

2345
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:08,639
reattaching it um new. So that's what

2346
01:38:08,639 --> 01:38:10,960
that is. And then the water conservation

2347
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:12,800
at the fire station. We had money this

2348
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:15,280
year that we're using to do some areas

2349
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:17,199
at the fire station on the back of kind

2350
01:38:17,199 --> 01:38:18,719
of the employee parking lot area

2351
01:38:18,719 --> 01:38:22,239
removing grass that's not it just

2352
01:38:22,239 --> 01:38:23,760
doesn't make sense to have grass in

2353
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:27,280
certain areas anymore. and that and so

2354
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:28,960
what we're asking this year is up would

2355
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:30,560
be on the main street side to remove all

2356
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:32,880
the grass and the park strip and replace

2357
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:35,600
it with a uh with a concrete off. It

2358
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:38,560
would actually be uh similar to exactly

2359
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:40,719
what you see out front here on this

2360
01:38:40,719 --> 01:38:42,960
block. We used to replace the the mo

2361
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:47,040
strip with the the concrete that does

2362
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:50,719
take us dot per minute to do that. Um

2363
01:38:50,719 --> 01:38:53,679
it's ready to go out here. So

2364
01:38:53,679 --> 01:38:55,760
those are those three

2365
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:56,639
>> water conservation.

2366
01:38:56,639 --> 01:38:58,800
>> It's water. We're trying to eliminate

2367
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:00,719
grass where grass doesn't make sense.

2368
01:39:00,719 --> 01:39:02,400
And the fire station's a great example

2369
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:04,239
where we'll keep it in certain areas,

2370
01:39:04,239 --> 01:39:05,440
but there's certain areas of the fire

2371
01:39:05,440 --> 01:39:07,920
station where it doesn't make sense.

2372
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:10,480
Like grass around the flag pole,

2373
01:39:10,480 --> 01:39:11,520
>> right?

2374
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:13,199
>> It just doesn't make sense to have grass

2375
01:39:13,199 --> 01:39:15,679
there that And so those are things that

2376
01:39:15,679 --> 01:39:17,840
were just eliminating grass where it

2377
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:20,080
just doesn't make sense anymore and just

2378
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:21,679
going to some raw. We'll still have some

2379
01:39:21,679 --> 01:39:24,320
planting material like some shrubs and

2380
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:26,159
trees and stuff, but just eliminating

2381
01:39:26,159 --> 01:39:27,360
turf grass.

2382
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:28,480
>> Okay.

2383
01:39:28,480 --> 01:39:30,080
>> We did some project out of farms park

2384
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:33,920
this year. Um they're in small area

2385
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:36,960
there on 200 north by the pretty

2386
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:41,990
football field.

2387
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:44,880
» Great. Thanks, Seth. Uh cool. Is that

2388
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:48,734
the police stuff? Oh, I'd love to

2389
01:39:48,734 --> 01:39:52,320
[clears throat] the vehicles. That's

2390
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:54,400
pretty normal to what we've done in the

2391
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:56,159
past. That the issue we have right now

2392
01:39:56,159 --> 01:39:58,400
is we're

2393
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:00,239
even with our older vehicles, some of

2394
01:40:00,239 --> 01:40:01,920
them we've had a lot of issues this

2395
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:05,119
year. Uh this warm detective vehicle in

2396
01:40:05,119 --> 01:40:07,119
particular, we've put a motor and a

2397
01:40:07,119 --> 01:40:10,159
transmission in it in the last

2398
01:40:10,159 --> 01:40:11,440
I don't know, some of them are kicking

2399
01:40:11,440 --> 01:40:13,360
our butt. They're not lasting like they

2400
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:14,880
used to, just like anything they make

2401
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:17,600
anymore. Um,

2402
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:19,280
so that just helps us kind of stay on

2403
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:22,080
track with replace if replacing older

2404
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:24,400
vehicles, trying to get them out of the

2405
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:27,040
fleet because they're just

2406
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:29,360
they're costing us so much between

2407
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:33,040
downtime and parts. Um, yeah, that'll

2408
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:35,920
just help us stay on track. The

2409
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:38,000
emergency operations center, a lot of

2410
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:40,000
what Ryan just talked about with council

2411
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:43,760
chambers. We're having issues in our

2412
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:46,880
ELC. The thing with our ELC is it's

2413
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:51,040
become a big part of our operation. Um

2414
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:54,000
we have a lot of meetings. We have a lot

2415
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:57,040
of training. Like just the inter

2416
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,280
department training by itself, we train

2417
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:01,119
two to four times a month because of the

2418
01:41:01,119 --> 01:41:04,159
shifts we work. But we we try to record

2419
01:41:04,159 --> 01:41:08,790
them. It doesn't work. Um

2420
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:10,159
you can pitch in whenever you want.

2421
01:41:10,159 --> 01:41:11,360
>> Yeah. Some some of the issues we're

2422
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:13,360
having with the EOC is that the the

2423
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:17,600
floor boxes in the floor have have uh

2424
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:20,159
u they're they're having water condense

2425
01:41:20,159 --> 01:41:23,679
inside the box and it's caused all the

2426
01:41:23,679 --> 01:41:27,440
wiring in the floor to to basically just

2427
01:41:27,440 --> 01:41:30,880
be fried essentially so it doesn't work.

2428
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:34,800
>> Um that same wiring is is also in the

2429
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:36,639
wall. So what we need to do is we need

2430
01:41:36,639 --> 01:41:38,320
to go in there and replace all the

2431
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:41,280
wiring. Um,

2432
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:45,440
Mike Blackham suggested uh that we put

2433
01:41:45,440 --> 01:41:47,440
uh vents on the top of those floor boxes

2434
01:41:47,440 --> 01:41:48,639
and I think that's going to work. We're

2435
01:41:48,639 --> 01:41:49,920
gonna we're going to actually do that.

2436
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:53,440
That'll be a lowcost uh fix for those

2437
01:41:53,440 --> 01:41:54,960
floor boxes so we don't have this

2438
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:57,280
problem in the future.

2439
01:41:57,280 --> 01:41:59,520
>> Can't you just buy the desk?

2440
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:06,629
>> It doesn't fix the wire.

2441
01:42:06,639 --> 01:42:07,520
That would be a hint.

2442
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:10,320
>> This all the equipment in the EOC or in

2443
01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:13,040
the EOC was was installed in 2018 when

2444
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:15,920
the when the building was built.

2445
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:16,880
>> 2014.

2446
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:18,880
>> Was it 2014?

2447
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:21,600
>> Yeah. It hasn't been replaced since. Um

2448
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:24,000
and uh it's the same time frame we had

2449
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:25,360
with the battery backup. So they were

2450
01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:26,800
all they were all kind of at the same

2451
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:29,440
time. Um

2452
01:42:29,440 --> 01:42:33,440
but uh that system is we we've

2453
01:42:33,440 --> 01:42:34,880
a couple years ago we had it

2454
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:37,360
reprogrammed. um trying to make some

2455
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:40,159
make it better, but it's it's continuing

2456
01:42:40,159 --> 01:42:43,360
to have problems. So, um there's a lot

2457
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:45,199
of things that don't work. They that we

2458
01:42:45,199 --> 01:42:48,080
have uh speakers in the system or u mics

2459
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:49,679
in the in the ceiling that aren't that

2460
01:42:49,679 --> 01:42:52,239
aren't functioning correctly and um they

2461
01:42:52,239 --> 01:42:54,560
can't do remote meetings in that in that

2462
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:56,159
space anymore.

2463
01:42:56,159 --> 01:42:58,719
um that they're having the same problem

2464
01:42:58,719 --> 01:43:00,159
that we're having here at city hall

2465
01:43:00,159 --> 01:43:02,960
where their DSP their backend equipment

2466
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:07,760
is um it's um out of out of date. We

2467
01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:10,639
can't get parts for it and um anyway

2468
01:43:10,639 --> 01:43:13,440
it's it's just it's it's [snorts] almost

2469
01:43:13,440 --> 01:43:15,040
how how old would that be for that would

2470
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:15,760
be over

2471
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:19,600
>> 2014 So that'd be 12 years old.

2472
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:25,199
>> Yeah. as far as electronics go, that's pretty good to get 12 years out

2473
01:43:25,199 --> 01:43:26,800
of it, especially out of a system like

2474
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:29,679
this. So, um,

2475
01:43:29,679 --> 01:43:32,480
so this is this is what we're requesting

2476
01:43:32,480 --> 01:43:36,560
to replace that AV equipment in the EOC.

2477
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:38,159
One of the big things I would say about

2478
01:43:38,159 --> 01:43:40,480
that is if we do have like we run our

2479
01:43:40,480 --> 01:43:42,639
end of the 4th of July out of there. If

2480
01:43:42,639 --> 01:43:44,320
we had a major incident that that's

2481
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:45,920
where we would run it out of. I don't

2482
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:48,159
none of us including Ryan are

2483
01:43:48,159 --> 01:43:49,679
comfortable that we would be able to

2484
01:43:49,679 --> 01:43:51,840
>> we wouldn't be able to run any kind of

2485
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:53,679
emergency out of that space at currently

2486
01:43:53,679 --> 01:43:56,480
the way it is. Yeah.

2487
01:43:56,480 --> 01:44:00,239
>> The mobile biometric scanners. Uh I

2488
01:44:00,239 --> 01:44:02,320
don't know. I don't this year there was

2489
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:08,070
a bill ran last year. This scanner is to

2490
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:08,719
it's [snorts and clears throat] not to

2491
01:44:08,719 --> 01:44:11,679
track people, but it's to fingerprint

2492
01:44:11,679 --> 01:44:14,480
like a if we can't verify who somebody

2493
01:44:14,480 --> 01:44:17,440
is or there's certain citations we hand

2494
01:44:17,440 --> 01:44:20,719
out, have you roll a fingerprint.

2495
01:44:20,719 --> 01:44:22,400
Last year, bill got introduced and

2496
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:26,320
passed with a deadline of I think it was

2497
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:29,920
this year. Um this year they extended it

2498
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:32,719
into 27, but there's no fiscal note on

2499
01:44:32,719 --> 01:44:36,320
this bill. Um but we will all be every

2500
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:39,520
agency in the state will be required to

2501
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:42,400
have them uh in their patrol vehicles

2502
01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:44,560
and use them. The [snorts] only reason

2503
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:47,040
they pushed back, they gave a little bit

2504
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:48,960
more time had nothing to do with cities

2505
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:51,679
being able to fund it. It had to do with

2506
01:44:51,679 --> 01:44:54,320
the CAD systems

2507
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:56,480
talking to the state. Right now, there's

2508
01:44:56,480 --> 01:45:00,080
no way to export the fingerprint file to

2509
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:02,639
the state to get back information or

2510
01:45:02,639 --> 01:45:05,760
even log the information.

2511
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:08,560
Um, so yeah, the state that's a

2512
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:11,119
requirement by the state. The range

2513
01:45:11,119 --> 01:45:12,800
shed,

2514
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:15,840
we've been working a lot with Bountiful

2515
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:18,560
and they've agreed. Bountiful city PD

2516
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:21,679
has their own uh range and [snorts]

2517
01:45:21,679 --> 01:45:24,560
they've agreed to let us cities have

2518
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:26,800
their own sheds there to keep all their

2519
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:28,560
supplies in. So you're not transporting

2520
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:30,960
them all the time. And they've agreed to

2521
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:34,800
let us do it. Let us let Kisville keep a

2522
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:36,400
shed there with our own stuffing and use

2523
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:38,320
it whenever we want.

2524
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:40,159
>> Not sure what you guys did to make the

2525
01:45:40,159 --> 01:45:43,119
legislature so mad, but all the thousand

2526
01:45:43,119 --> 01:45:45,760
bills that got presented this year, 500

2527
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:48,639
of them were public safety related.

2528
01:45:48,639 --> 01:45:49,920
That's crazy.

2529
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:53,280
>> It's Yeah.

2530
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:54,719
>> Yeah. It was a rough year.

2531
01:45:54,719 --> 01:45:56,000
>> I don't have anything else to do

2532
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:58,000
>> to say the least. It was a rough year

2533
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:00,719
for public safety. I I will say for the

2534
01:46:00,719 --> 01:46:02,239
EOC

2535
01:46:02,239 --> 01:46:04,239
when it was [clears throat] built, it

2536
01:46:04,239 --> 01:46:06,480
was specifically built to operate as the

2537
01:46:06,480 --> 01:46:09,199
EOCC. So in case did get a windstorm, a

2538
01:46:09,199 --> 01:46:11,199
major earthquake or whatever, that

2539
01:46:11,199 --> 01:46:13,679
building is built to withstand a a much

2540
01:46:13,679 --> 01:46:16,080
heavier earthquake, all that much better

2541
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:18,880
than the fire station would ever do. Um

2542
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:21,920
and it was built at the time that that

2543
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:24,800
would become our absolute headquarters

2544
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:27,633
for uh city council would go there,

2545
01:46:27,633 --> 01:46:28,719
[clears throat] department heads would

2546
01:46:28,719 --> 01:46:31,040
go there, all operations would go out of

2547
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:34,320
there. So it it is pretty important to

2548
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:38,480
keep that as the EOC functioning. It's

2549
01:46:38,480 --> 01:46:39,840
another one of those things that you

2550
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:41,520
hate to have to have, but you have to

2551
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:43,520
have it. And that building is

2552
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:46,480
specifically built for it.

2553
01:46:46,480 --> 01:46:47,040
So,

2554
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:50,400
>> I will say this, when it was new, I ran

2555
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:54,320
a I ran a custodial abduction out of the

2556
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:57,199
EOC with the the abduction response

2557
01:46:57,199 --> 01:46:59,679
team, the countywide team. It was

2558
01:46:59,679 --> 01:47:01,600
phenomenal. They even commented on that

2559
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:03,119
when they left like this room was

2560
01:47:03,119 --> 01:47:05,360
perfect for what had happened over those

2561
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:10,159
two days. If that happened today, I we

2562
01:47:10,159 --> 01:47:11,360
could spread out throughout the

2563
01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:12,719
building. We would there [clears throat]

2564
01:47:12,719 --> 01:47:15,280
it just it add one more factor to an

2565
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:17,440
already massive problem that's just

2566
01:47:17,440 --> 01:47:19,520
>> I mean it was bill so that things could

2567
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:21,760
be kept in the closets if there was a

2568
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:23,280
major incident they would be able to be

2569
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:25,600
rolled out of the closets put out

2570
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:28,480
operations logistics everything could

2571
01:47:28,480 --> 01:47:29,440
operate

2572
01:47:29,440 --> 01:47:32,320
>> well your number one thing that goes

2573
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:34,159
wrong in any afteraction report is

2574
01:47:34,159 --> 01:47:36,000
communication and if we're not taking

2575
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:37,679
care of our communication we're failing

2576
01:47:37,679 --> 01:47:41,430
already Right.

2577
01:47:41,440 --> 01:47:42,880
» One thing I'd like to point out with the

2578
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:46,480
EOC is that uh when I was talking to a

2579
01:47:46,480 --> 01:47:48,080
couple of these vendors, they they said

2580
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:50,000
that if we're doing the EOC and the

2581
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:51,920
council chambers AV at the same time and

2582
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:54,800
there will be cost savings there. So,

2583
01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:56,560
because the programming will be very

2584
01:47:56,560 --> 01:48:00,080
similar, the hardware will be similar,

2585
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:03,600
will just be easier to to to do overall.

2586
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:03,920
So,

2587
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:05,119
>> that makes sense, right?

2588
01:48:05,119 --> 01:48:08,080
>> Yeah.

2589
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:10,080
So again, these are all one time fund

2590
01:48:10,080 --> 01:48:13,679
kind of we're using fund balance

2591
01:48:13,679 --> 01:48:15,600
for whatever constellation it might be.

2592
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:17,760
We we really wrestled with uh some of

2593
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:21,280
these um because they are expensive

2594
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:23,440
uh and at the end of the day just uh

2595
01:48:23,440 --> 01:48:25,199
like it's been discussed, we feel like

2596
01:48:25,199 --> 01:48:27,520
these are things that are needed um and

2597
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:29,199
we want to stay ahead of the maintenance

2598
01:48:29,199 --> 01:48:31,440
curve and not just continue to defer

2599
01:48:31,440 --> 01:48:33,280
every single item. Even though we have a

2600
01:48:33,280 --> 01:48:34,639
lot of items later we're going to share

2601
01:48:34,639 --> 01:48:36,480
that we are deferring. We know we need

2602
01:48:36,480 --> 01:48:38,080
to stay up on some of these and they're

2603
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:40,560
only going to get expensive, more

2604
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:43,840
expensive if we we don't uh try to take

2605
01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:46,400
care of some of these things. Um so,

2606
01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:48,719
yep. Operations overview. Thanks.

2607
01:48:48,719 --> 01:48:50,400
Deferred. All right. So, here's where we

2608
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:52,719
get into some things that were

2609
01:48:52,719 --> 01:48:54,560
operational.

2610
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:56,719
>> Well, this is Cole. Do you want to talk

2611
01:48:56,719 --> 01:48:57,600
about this? Sure.

2612
01:48:57,600 --> 01:48:58,960
>> We're [laughter] not doing

2613
01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:00,880
>> No, we're banning.

2614
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:03,840
>> Baby Jesus.

2615
01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:06,080
>> No, no, no. So this this was uh this

2616
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:08,400
wasn't we have our baseline we we

2617
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:11,199
currently have this was increasing our

2618
01:49:11,199 --> 01:49:14,239
baseline to expand make it look a little

2619
01:49:14,239 --> 01:49:15,119
bit better. So,

2620
01:49:15,119 --> 01:49:17,520
>> and Jason said, "No,

2621
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:18,239
>> Jason,

2622
01:49:18,239 --> 01:49:20,320
>> well, [laughter]

2623
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:21,679
tell you

2624
01:49:21,679 --> 01:49:25,270
>> finally

2625
01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:27,760
Mike's like, "No, cut it."

2626
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:30,380
>> Finally, we said no to something.

2627
01:49:30,380 --> 01:49:30,880
[laughter]

2628
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:33,119
>> So, so what we will still do what we

2629
01:49:33,119 --> 01:49:34,639
currently have been doing. That hasn't

2630
01:49:34,639 --> 01:49:35,040
changed.

2631
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:35,360
>> Okay.

2632
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:37,199
>> Uh the increase was to do a few more

2633
01:49:37,199 --> 01:49:39,840
trees, a few more um

2634
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:41,040
>> deer families.

2635
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:43,199
>> Yeah. Our dearies our dear families are

2636
01:49:43,199 --> 01:49:44,560
toast. Well, they did blow over,

2637
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:46,719
>> but they live their life. Um,

2638
01:49:46,719 --> 01:49:47,360
>> takes me back.

2639
01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:48,719
>> Yeah, we we used to be able to do a lot

2640
01:49:48,719 --> 01:49:50,239
of this in the house. We just don't have

2641
01:49:50,239 --> 01:49:52,960
the staff to to spend two months uh

2642
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:54,800
hanging Christmas lights. So, all this

2643
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:57,040
is contracted, which in a sense makes a

2644
01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:58,080
lot of sense because it

2645
01:49:58,080 --> 01:49:58,800
>> Yeah, they take it down.

2646
01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:00,239
>> They take it down. They store the

2647
01:50:00,239 --> 01:50:02,480
lights. We do all that stuff. So, this

2648
01:50:02,480 --> 01:50:06,159
18,000 was an increase of our of our

2649
01:50:06,159 --> 01:50:08,960
current budget. So, this just goes back

2650
01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:11,199
to our current budget. So, we won't

2651
01:50:11,199 --> 01:50:13,600
improve anything. it would just remain

2652
01:50:13,600 --> 01:50:15,280
the status quo.

2653
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:15,760
>> Okay.

2654
01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:17,280
>> So, we will still do Christmas holiday

2655
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:17,760
lining

2656
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:19,840
>> as long as they're white.

2657
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:21,679
>> We thought the white turned out really

2658
01:50:21,679 --> 01:50:23,679
good last year, so we want to keep that.

2659
01:50:23,679 --> 01:50:25,600
So,

2660
01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:27,760
>> thanks. Uh Ryan, you want to touch on

2661
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:28,080
these?

2662
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:29,920
>> Yeah. So, currently we use OnBase for

2663
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:33,520
our document management system. It's pretty much used across the board

2664
01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:36,960
for the city. Um,

2665
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:38,719
everybody knows about the big push for

2666
01:50:38,719 --> 01:50:41,679
AI and uh you've all used chaty fatigue

2667
01:50:41,679 --> 01:50:44,639
and whatnot, but um and and know how

2668
01:50:44,639 --> 01:50:46,880
easy it is to find things with with some

2669
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:50,960
of those AI tools. Um

2670
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:53,360
this is uh this was just a request that

2671
01:50:53,360 --> 01:51:01,760
uh we made to uh integrate on base with um some AI to make to make uh

2672
01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:05,600
searching documents and and uh all kinds

2673
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:07,322
of documents make searching

2674
01:51:07,322 --> 01:51:09,040
[clears throat] documents easier to

2675
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:11,440
provide you know easier information

2676
01:51:11,440 --> 01:51:16,159
that's specific to our our uh

2677
01:51:16,159 --> 01:51:20,800
our onbase application. So, um it's

2678
01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:22,320
obvious it's not going to happen this

2679
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:24,560
year, but um you know, I think that the

2680
01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:32,239
usefulness of AI is going to continue to increase and we're going to um we're

2681
01:51:32,239 --> 01:51:33,760
going to find it more useful to have

2682
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:37,119
these kind of things. So, um we'll look

2683
01:51:37,119 --> 01:51:39,040
forward to having this in the future

2684
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:41,199
sometime.

2685
01:51:41,199 --> 01:51:43,679
um for for support for door and uh

2686
01:51:43,679 --> 01:51:47,679
camera systems. Um we were requesting

2687
01:51:47,679 --> 01:51:52,239
a a contract with um our access control

2688
01:51:52,239 --> 01:51:55,599
um company that we use um to kind of

2689
01:51:55,599 --> 01:51:58,560
help us

2690
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:02,960
uh optimize our our camera system. And

2691
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:05,760
right now we have we have uh basically

2692
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:11,040
four servers that work together to uh

2693
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:13,520
um record and manage our cameras

2694
01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:16,400
essentially. And that's uh it it needs

2695
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:19,840
some help beyond my expertise. So we

2696
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:21,599
were we were hoping to get some money to

2697
01:52:21,599 --> 01:52:24,480
kind of uh help facilitate that

2698
01:52:24,480 --> 01:52:28,960
optimization. Um and um

2699
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:31,440
it uh they also do support for the door

2700
01:52:31,440 --> 01:52:34,400
access and and um there's some

2701
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:36,080
optimization that we can do there to

2702
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:38,560
kind of help with management of users

2703
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:43,440
and and doors and whatnot. So um yeah,

2704
01:52:43,440 --> 01:52:45,280
that's what we were going to try to do

2705
01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:49,760
there. Great. Thanks, Ryan. Next slide.

2706
01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:52,080
Uh so this kind of a summary of the new

2707
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:54,480
changes or the new items. Um, most of

2708
01:52:54,480 --> 01:52:56,800
these that we've talked about, I don't

2709
01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:58,560
know that we've talked about the 88

2710
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:00,320
compliance yet, did we?

2711
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:00,960
>> We have not.

2712
01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:03,199
>> You want to touch on that? That 17,000?

2713
01:53:03,199 --> 01:53:06,000
>> Yeah. So, um,

2714
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:09,440
in 2024, the Justice Department, um,

2715
01:53:09,440 --> 01:53:12,239
under title two of the ADA,

2716
01:53:12,239 --> 01:53:15,199
um, required

2717
01:53:15,199 --> 01:53:17,280
cities,

2718
01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:20,880
states, and other governments to,

2719
01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:23,280
uh, meet the WA

2720
01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:27,679
WCAG 2.1 level accessibility standards

2721
01:53:27,679 --> 01:53:32,000
that I don't understand the the acronyms

2722
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:33,679
and the mumbo jumbo behind behind that.

2723
01:53:33,679 --> 01:53:35,199
But this is a request from the legal

2724
01:53:35,199 --> 01:53:36,800
department so that we [clears throat]

2725
01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:40,719
can uh we can update our website to meet

2726
01:53:40,719 --> 01:53:44,239
ADA compliance essentially. Um basically

2727
01:53:44,239 --> 01:53:50,400
what this is is a suite of software that looks on our website. It it uh

2728
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:52,880
evaluates it for ADA compliance. It

2729
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:55,360
makes the updates to those to those

2730
01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:58,000
pieces. Um

2731
01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:00,800
and uh and then and it publishes those

2732
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:04,480
pieces so we meet meet ADA compliance.

2733
01:54:04,480 --> 01:54:06,400
Um

2734
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:08,320
but uh some of the things that we need

2735
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:10,880
to like address on the website are um

2736
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:14,400
all documents, all forms, all images,

2737
01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:16,159
all videos,

2738
01:54:16,159 --> 01:54:17,760
pretty much everything on the website.

2739
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:21,360
So um

2740
01:54:21,360 --> 01:54:21,920
>> yeah,

2741
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:23,760
>> Brian, what does that mean? ADA

2742
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:25,840
compliance. What what does that mean?

2743
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:28,639
So, um just be able to enhance hearing

2744
01:54:28,639 --> 01:54:30,320
or braille or

2745
01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:33,679
>> it's it's uh mostly related to like um

2746
01:54:33,679 --> 01:54:35,760
for example like on every picture in a

2747
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:36,880
website there's like a

2748
01:54:36,880 --> 01:54:37,760
>> description of it

2749
01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:40,000
>> a line that they that that you put in

2750
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:41,599
that describes what that picture is,

2751
01:54:41,599 --> 01:54:42,480
right?

2752
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:44,960
>> Um it's more than that,

2753
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:48,960
>> but but PDF documents, documents, um

2754
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:51,760
everything have to have that that

2755
01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:53,840
>> reader ability. Yeah. So, I'm not

2756
01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:56,639
exactly sure what all it all entails.

2757
01:54:56,639 --> 01:55:00,159
Um, yeah. So,

2758
01:55:00,159 --> 01:55:02,159
uh, it's obviously a concern for legal

2759
01:55:02,159 --> 01:55:04,159
because they've they've reached out to

2760
01:55:04,159 --> 01:55:06,719
Jason and me to to try to figure out

2761
01:55:06,719 --> 01:55:08,400
what we need to do to to bring our

2762
01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:10,320
website up to compliance. So, they

2763
01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:14,239
obviously see it as a liability. This is

2764
01:55:14,239 --> 01:55:16,639
>> a state law.

2765
01:55:16,639 --> 01:55:17,840
>> It isederal.

2766
01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:20,639
>> It's a federal law. It's DOJ.

2767
01:55:20,639 --> 01:55:22,960
>> Yeah.

2768
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:25,040
Yeah. Another one of the expensive

2769
01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:28,159
things that uh just have to do it

2770
01:55:28,159 --> 01:55:29,520
unfortunately. Fortunately,

2771
01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:32,000
unfortunately, but it is expensive.

2772
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:33,199
>> Um

2773
01:55:33,199 --> 01:55:34,960
>> the the download speeds. You want to

2774
01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:36,239
talk really quickly?

2775
01:55:36,239 --> 01:55:39,599
>> Um so, and maybe this is something Seth

2776
01:55:39,599 --> 01:55:42,719
can chime in on, but uh currently

2777
01:55:42,719 --> 01:55:46,355
uh Kim is running into lots of issues

2778
01:55:46,355 --> 01:55:47,360
[clears throat]

2779
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:52,159
at the at the police station. Uh

2780
01:55:52,159 --> 01:55:54,080
the the police department, they have a

2781
01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:56,480
video system, the dash cam and the body

2782
01:55:56,480 --> 01:55:59,040
cam system. Essentially what it does is

2783
01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:01,760
it brings video in from the vehicles and

2784
01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:04,560
it pushes it to the cloud. Um it also

2785
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:06,800
takes body cam video and pushes it to

2786
01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:11,440
the cloud. Um that video is 4K so it's

2787
01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:13,520
uh it's it's very slow and update

2788
01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:15,920
uploading. Um but the biggest problems

2789
01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:21,040
are with um redaction. So, uh, Kimberly

2790
01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:23,840
over there, when she has to when she's

2791
01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:27,119
has been requested video, she has to go

2792
01:56:27,119 --> 01:56:31,920
in and redact it. It can be hours and hours and hours of 4K video

2793
01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:34,320
that she's having to redact. And so her

2794
01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:36,239
process is she has to download it from

2795
01:56:36,239 --> 01:56:37,599
the cloud because that's where it's

2796
01:56:37,599 --> 01:56:40,159
stored. Download it from the cloud. She

2797
01:56:40,159 --> 01:56:42,320
does the redaction then uploads it. And

2798
01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:45,520
um, our one gig connection um, you know,

2799
01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:49,199
is is is slow for that kind of process.

2800
01:56:49,199 --> 01:56:51,440
Um, and so the police department is

2801
01:56:51,440 --> 01:56:54,239
requesting that we update our our

2802
01:56:54,239 --> 01:56:57,119
connection to 10 gig.

2803
01:56:57,119 --> 01:56:58,719
Um,

2804
01:56:58,719 --> 01:57:01,360
we are set up for 10 gig. Our firewalls

2805
01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:03,520
are set up for 10 gig. Our core switches

2806
01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:06,800
are set up for 10 gig. Um, and you'll

2807
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:08,560
see in a later slide that we're we're

2808
01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:10,159
requesting that we're going to replace

2809
01:57:10,159 --> 01:57:14,560
the um the PD switches. And so those PD

2810
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:17,119
switches will be capable of 10 gig. And

2811
01:57:17,119 --> 01:57:18,719
so what the police department is asking

2812
01:57:18,719 --> 01:57:21,599
for is uh to update our internet

2813
01:57:21,599 --> 01:57:24,480
connection service from 1 gig to to 10

2814
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:28,719
gig. This represents the cost uh plus

2815
01:57:28,719 --> 01:57:33,280
some hardware um for the the addition of

2816
01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:37,040
that service. So yeah, I I think roughly

2817
01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:44,080
we spend about $1,100 a month on one gig service and to add 10 gig,

2818
01:57:44,080 --> 01:57:46,639
it's going to be another $500.

2819
01:57:46,639 --> 01:57:47,119
So

2820
01:57:47,119 --> 01:57:47,840
>> reoccurring.

2821
01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:48,960
>> So they're What's that?

2822
01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:50,239
>> Reoccurring, right? Not one time. This

2823
01:57:50,239 --> 01:57:50,480
is

2824
01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:52,239
>> one. Yeah, reoccurring. Yeah. Every

2825
01:57:52,239 --> 01:57:53,360
month. Yep.

2826
01:57:53,360 --> 01:57:55,280
>> How how many hours, Seth, are the guys

2827
01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:56,719
sometimes spending just uploading their

2828
01:57:56,719 --> 01:57:57,679
body cam stuff?

2829
01:57:57,679 --> 01:57:59,599
>> That's what I was just going to say. So,

2830
01:57:59,599 --> 01:58:02,560
we have some vehicles have taken, so

2831
01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:05,360
typical shift is 12 hours in patrol.

2832
01:58:05,360 --> 01:58:07,520
We've had vehicles sit and have to run

2833
01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:10,000
while they're doing this. Uh, we've had

2834
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:12,719
one sit for eight almost nine hours and

2835
01:58:12,719 --> 01:58:16,080
still didn't clear the whole uh hard

2836
01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:18,800
drive or storage. Uh, Kimberly's had

2837
01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:23,119
cases that have taken days. So every

2838
01:58:23,119 --> 01:58:26,320
almost every case we we do a lot of we

2839
01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:28,560
do a lot of our calls in pairs now for

2840
01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:30,480
safety

2841
01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:32,719
and just for instance in a vehicle

2842
01:58:32,719 --> 01:58:34,960
there's four cameras

2843
01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:38,560
the front back uh inside the vehicle

2844
01:58:38,560 --> 01:58:39,360
plus the body

2845
01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:42,639
>> and they're all 4K Uh where it's

2846
01:58:42,639 --> 01:58:45,199
impacting us is our grammar requests

2847
01:58:45,199 --> 01:58:49,119
have gone up. Uh getting a case to the

2848
01:58:49,119 --> 01:58:51,760
prosecutor's office. That's probably our

2849
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:53,760
biggest one because there we have

2850
01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:55,440
depending on the case we have time

2851
01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:57,040
limits and when it has to be there, how

2852
01:58:57,040 --> 01:58:59,582
fast it has to be there, excuse

2853
01:58:59,582 --> 01:59:00,320
[clears throat] me, where they'll

2854
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:03,040
release our suspect.

2855
01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:05,679
So for us, we looked at it a couple of

2856
01:59:05,679 --> 01:59:08,719
ways. Our vehicles were are wearing out.

2857
01:59:08,719 --> 01:59:11,119
Run times really hard on them. Plus the

2858
01:59:11,119 --> 01:59:14,000
down just the downtime. Um I was talking

2859
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:16,400
to a newer officer the other day and

2860
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:18,400
when I when I got to the office and when

2861
01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:19,679
I was leaving at the end of the day he

2862
01:59:19,679 --> 01:59:22,239
was parked in the same place. So I I

2863
01:59:22,239 --> 01:59:25,119
picked on him and

2864
01:59:25,119 --> 01:59:26,719
he didn't know how to take it cuz he

2865
01:59:26,719 --> 01:59:27,679
>> we just want to know why

2866
01:59:27,679 --> 01:59:29,599
>> he was leaving he could only leave to go

2867
01:59:29,599 --> 01:59:32,880
to a call and come back to the office

2868
01:59:32,880 --> 01:59:34,880
because he had so much stored in his

2869
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:38,320
vehicle that he well any free time

2870
01:59:38,320 --> 01:59:40,560
instead of being out driving around and

2871
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:42,080
doing [snorts] traffic or just being

2872
01:59:42,080 --> 01:59:44,320
seen he couldn't do it. He had to sit at

2873
01:59:44,320 --> 01:59:47,520
the office and let his vehicle run while

2874
01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:49,840
it sucked the information out of his

2875
01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:52,560
car. Um,

2876
01:59:52,560 --> 01:59:55,280
>> Kimberly's even tried when she downloads

2877
01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:57,360
them to redact them, she'll leave it

2878
01:59:57,360 --> 01:59:58,960
running when she leaves at night and

2879
01:59:58,960 --> 02:00:00,639
come back in the morning. Sometimes it's

2880
02:00:00,639 --> 02:00:01,440
done.

2881
02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:03,760
>> Sometimes a disc or

2882
02:00:03,760 --> 02:00:05,679
>> disc I think

2883
02:00:05,679 --> 02:00:08,560
>> not a disc. Not a disc drive.

2884
02:00:08,560 --> 02:00:10,239
>> Everything's on the cloud now.

2885
02:00:10,239 --> 02:00:11,920
>> Yeah.

2886
02:00:11,920 --> 02:00:16,400
And the 4K thing is a big deal. Uh

2887
02:00:16,400 --> 02:00:19,679
you've just the redaction part itself is

2888
02:00:19,679 --> 02:00:21,679
the whole thing's been technology is

2889
02:00:21,679 --> 02:00:23,920
great until it's not. It's just been

2890
02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:24,800
very hard work.

2891
02:00:24,800 --> 02:00:26,639
>> Ryan dumb question. Instead of going to

2892
02:00:26,639 --> 02:00:28,400
the cloud, can it just go to their own

2893
02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:30,560
specific server for this and make it

2894
02:00:30,560 --> 02:00:31,520
fast?

2895
02:00:31,520 --> 02:00:36,560
>> Yeah. So um so we c we previously we had

2896
02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:38,800
a system that was dumping it to our own

2897
02:00:38,800 --> 02:00:41,599
storage locally and uh that was working

2898
02:00:41,599 --> 02:00:44,400
well. It it was 10 it was 1080p so it

2899
02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:46,639
was one quarter of the actual size of

2900
02:00:46,639 --> 02:00:49,679
what we're what we're doing. Um but

2901
02:00:49,679 --> 02:00:52,800
Motorola bought out WatchGuard and and

2902
02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:57,119
Motorola uh made a change that that only

2903
02:00:57,119 --> 02:00:59,360
allows

2904
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:03,440
um cloud hosted video and almost all the

2905
02:01:03,440 --> 02:01:06,480
vendors are moving to cloud hosted type

2906
02:01:06,480 --> 02:01:10,560
services. So there isn't an option for

2907
02:01:10,560 --> 02:01:14,480
um local storage for video anymore. Um,

2908
02:01:14,480 --> 02:01:17,119
and that's that's that's pretty much I

2909
02:01:17,119 --> 02:01:18,800
mean when you talk about anything,

2910
02:01:18,800 --> 02:01:20,800
everything's going to the cloud and and

2911
02:01:20,800 --> 02:01:22,159
this is one of those things.

2912
02:01:22,159 --> 02:01:23,760
>> When we were looking at different

2913
02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:27,760
vendors for body camera and car camera,

2914
02:01:27,760 --> 02:01:29,520
>> the top [clears throat] four maybe even

2915
02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:32,560
five companies that do it that

2916
02:01:32,560 --> 02:01:34,239
>> they were all forced into subscription

2917
02:01:34,239 --> 02:01:36,000
and they were all forced into cloud

2918
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:37,840
storage when we looked at all of them.

2919
02:01:37,840 --> 02:01:40,560
>> Yeah, there is some advantages to cloud

2920
02:01:40,560 --> 02:01:46,560
storage. It's obviously less work for uh the police department or it but

2921
02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:48,400
um because we don't have to manage the

2922
02:01:48,400 --> 02:01:50,800
updates on the servers or you know

2923
02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:53,920
manage the security profiles there. Um

2924
02:01:53,920 --> 02:01:56,960
but there's there's you know other

2925
02:01:56,960 --> 02:01:59,679
problems so that we're running into. So

2926
02:01:59,679 --> 02:02:01,440
one thing I will say about the 10 gig

2927
02:02:01,440 --> 02:02:04,800
internet connection is while it benefits

2928
02:02:04,800 --> 02:02:07,599
the police department greatly, it's it's

2929
02:02:07,599 --> 02:02:09,360
across the board. So it actually

2930
02:02:09,360 --> 02:02:11,840
benefits every single connection in the

2931
02:02:11,840 --> 02:02:14,239
city. So operations,

2932
02:02:14,239 --> 02:02:18,400
admin, fire department, um cemetery,

2933
02:02:18,400 --> 02:02:21,119
everybody would get access to

2934
02:02:21,119 --> 02:02:27,199
connection. So um it would benefit our backups that go to Richfield. And um

2935
02:02:27,199 --> 02:02:30,400
so you know, I'm while this is a police

2936
02:02:30,400 --> 02:02:33,520
department request, it it does have um

2937
02:02:33,520 --> 02:02:36,159
wide reaching benefits.

2938
02:02:36,159 --> 02:02:38,960
>> Well, thank you. just uh you know

2939
02:02:38,960 --> 02:02:40,239
obviously

2940
02:02:40,239 --> 02:02:43,199
>> as you know I know very little about IT

2941
02:02:43,199 --> 02:02:45,440
technology but I thought the whole part

2942
02:02:45,440 --> 02:02:48,639
of the fiber was was going to be make

2943
02:02:48,639 --> 02:02:51,440
the speed so fast that you could never

2944
02:02:51,440 --> 02:02:53,520
overrun that fiber.

2945
02:02:53,520 --> 02:02:55,520
>> Yeah. The reason why we can get 10 gig

2946
02:02:55,520 --> 02:02:57,119
is because we have fiber.

2947
02:02:57,119 --> 02:02:57,679
>> Okay.

2948
02:02:57,679 --> 02:03:01,599
>> So if we if we were on like a a DSL or

2949
02:03:01,599 --> 02:03:03,520
cable modem or whatever we wouldn't have

2950
02:03:03,520 --> 02:03:06,639
the option for 10 gig. Okay. So, so that

2951
02:03:06,639 --> 02:03:08,560
that's that is that is the benefit of

2952
02:03:08,560 --> 02:03:10,639
Fiverr.

2953
02:03:10,639 --> 02:03:11,119
>> Thank you.

2954
02:03:11,119 --> 02:03:14,639
>> Great. Thanks. Uh the last one there, uh

2955
02:03:14,639 --> 02:03:18,880
10,000 for PR services. So, we felt uh

2956
02:03:18,880 --> 02:03:20,639
that we can do a better job with

2957
02:03:20,639 --> 02:03:22,400
communications to residents. It's

2958
02:03:22,400 --> 02:03:24,480
something that we've been wanting to do

2959
02:03:24,480 --> 02:03:27,040
more and more of. A lot of cities you'll

2960
02:03:27,040 --> 02:03:29,599
see actually have a full-time public

2961
02:03:29,599 --> 02:03:31,599
information officer or even a department

2962
02:03:31,599 --> 02:03:33,760
that you know just devoted towards

2963
02:03:33,760 --> 02:03:36,719
communications rolling out video content

2964
02:03:36,719 --> 02:03:38,800
and all kinds of information that for

2965
02:03:38,800 --> 02:03:41,040
social media and right now we don't

2966
02:03:41,040 --> 02:03:42,480
really have anything that's kind of

2967
02:03:42,480 --> 02:03:44,159
other duties as assigned friend Marie to

2968
02:03:44,159 --> 02:03:47,440
do newsletter and and uh and where other

2969
02:03:47,440 --> 02:03:48,480
people may have a little bit of time

2970
02:03:48,480 --> 02:03:51,520
here and there but we have a contracted

2971
02:03:51,520 --> 02:03:54,239
LinkedIn group as some of you know to do

2972
02:03:54,239 --> 02:03:56,159
a little bit on call when we have a

2973
02:03:56,159 --> 02:03:58,800
need, a project that we want to prepare

2974
02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:00,719
some content for, they're there. So, we

2975
02:04:00,719 --> 02:04:02,480
that's going to cost a little bit. Just

2976
02:04:02,480 --> 02:04:06,320
as an example, yesterday I met with uh

2977
02:04:06,320 --> 02:04:08,639
LinkedIn and I working we're working

2978
02:04:08,639 --> 02:04:10,320
with the Catalyst Center, the Davis

2979
02:04:10,320 --> 02:04:11,920
School District Catalyst Center. That's

2980
02:04:11,920 --> 02:04:13,679
where they're teaching high school

2981
02:04:13,679 --> 02:04:16,320
students um like career type of skills

2982
02:04:16,320 --> 02:04:17,920
where they graduate with a certificate

2983
02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:19,440
or college credits towards different

2984
02:04:19,440 --> 02:04:21,599
things. And one of those areas is video

2985
02:04:21,599 --> 02:04:24,400
production. And so they have agreed to

2986
02:04:24,400 --> 02:04:27,440
for free uh put together a video series

2987
02:04:27,440 --> 02:04:28,960
for the city. So it'll spotlight

2988
02:04:28,960 --> 02:04:31,280
different departments. We can put these

2989
02:04:31,280 --> 02:04:34,239
one minute videos out um spotlighting

2990
02:04:34,239 --> 02:04:35,840
fire, police, you know, water

2991
02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:38,000
department. And uh I think it's going to

2992
02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:39,360
be really cool. So we're excited about

2993
02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:41,040
that. But that's an area where, you

2994
02:04:41,040 --> 02:04:42,400
know, maybe we can run it by Langden

2995
02:04:42,400 --> 02:04:44,080
Group and say, "Hey, help us write a

2996
02:04:44,080 --> 02:04:46,320
story board or, you know, give us some

2997
02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:48,159
guidelines on some good content that

2998
02:04:48,159 --> 02:04:49,920
residents would find interesting and and

2999
02:04:49,920 --> 02:04:51,679
informative." So that's what that's

3000
02:04:51,679 --> 02:04:53,199
about. I'll put a blurb on that in the

3001
02:04:53,199 --> 02:04:55,360
city manager report as well. Uh under

3002
02:04:55,360 --> 02:04:56,800
the efficiencies, we've already talked

3003
02:04:56,800 --> 02:04:59,119
about most of these. Uh so where you saw

3004
02:04:59,119 --> 02:05:02,480
under the road fund, we saw uh an

3005
02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:05,731
increase. We're seeing uh a savings on

3006
02:05:05,731 --> 02:05:05,760
>> [clears throat]

3007
02:05:05,760 --> 02:05:07,040
>> uh operations cuz we're just

3008
02:05:07,040 --> 02:05:08,880
transferring those costs uh now over

3009
02:05:08,880 --> 02:05:11,599
into the road fund. Likewise down there

3010
02:05:11,599 --> 02:05:13,840
at the bottom uh transfers to from

3011
02:05:13,840 --> 02:05:16,880
general fund to MBA and debt service. Um

3012
02:05:16,880 --> 02:05:18,719
you saw that we were seeing an increase

3013
02:05:18,719 --> 02:05:21,520
in those funds. That's because we're

3014
02:05:21,520 --> 02:05:23,040
using fund balance and we're actually

3015
02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:25,360
seeing a savings now in the general fund

3016
02:05:25,360 --> 02:05:27,040
side of it. So that's where that savings

3017
02:05:27,040 --> 02:05:28,560
is coming from. And then non-election

3018
02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:31,040
year. So savings there on election

3019
02:05:31,040 --> 02:05:35,599
costs. Uh next slide. So just

3020
02:05:35,599 --> 02:05:36,880
>> just a couple more slides and we're

3021
02:05:36,880 --> 02:05:39,679
done. Capital. All right. So this these

3022
02:05:39,679 --> 02:05:41,199
are the deferred items we talked about

3023
02:05:41,199 --> 02:05:42,719
and I'll try to just run them really

3024
02:05:42,719 --> 02:05:46,159
quick unless people want to jump in. But

3025
02:05:46,159 --> 02:05:49,119
uh scissors left. Scissors scissor lift.

3026
02:05:49,119 --> 02:05:53,599
Um, we can rent that, right, Cole? And

3027
02:05:53,599 --> 02:05:54,560
so we're going to

3028
02:05:54,560 --> 02:05:55,840
>> we do

3029
02:05:55,840 --> 02:05:59,119
>> not do that. Um,

3030
02:05:59,119 --> 02:06:01,840
refinish the bay floors. It's been 25

3031
02:06:01,840 --> 02:06:03,280
years, whatever, chief.

3032
02:06:03,280 --> 02:06:06,480
>> 26 years. So, that's going to be needed.

3033
02:06:06,480 --> 02:06:10,480
Uh, but going to kick that at least

3034
02:06:10,480 --> 02:06:13,920
another year. uh we had budgeted 1.5

3035
02:06:13,920 --> 02:06:17,280
million uh to do some fire station um

3036
02:06:17,280 --> 02:06:20,560
expansion should especially should we

3037
02:06:20,560 --> 02:06:22,639
defer for a long long time the westside

3038
02:06:22,639 --> 02:06:24,960
fire station. So obviously considering

3039
02:06:24,960 --> 02:06:28,320
that the west side fire station is being

3040
02:06:28,320 --> 02:06:31,360
looked at and for for a bond issue or a

3041
02:06:31,360 --> 02:06:34,079
general obligation valid issue uh we're

3042
02:06:34,079 --> 02:06:35,280
going to hold on this until we know

3043
02:06:35,280 --> 02:06:38,159
what's going on with the fire station um

3044
02:06:38,159 --> 02:06:40,159
under community development. So, we've

3045
02:06:40,159 --> 02:06:42,159
kicked several things down the road

3046
02:06:42,159 --> 02:06:44,480
here. Uh, we've talked about a

3047
02:06:44,480 --> 02:06:46,400
comprehensive code update. Our codes are

3048
02:06:46,400 --> 02:06:49,920
just really in need of uh an overhaul,

3049
02:06:49,920 --> 02:06:53,040
an update. Um, we're trying to just do

3050
02:06:53,040 --> 02:06:54,880
those a little bit at a time, but I

3051
02:06:54,880 --> 02:06:56,239
think until we actually get somebody to

3052
02:06:56,239 --> 02:06:57,840
come in and just do an overhaul with us,

3053
02:06:57,840 --> 02:07:00,000
it's going to take a long, long time to

3054
02:07:00,000 --> 02:07:02,079
get those updated. Uh, but we're going

3055
02:07:02,079 --> 02:07:04,079
to kick that one for a little bit more.

3056
02:07:04,079 --> 02:07:06,639
Uh, the 5-year capital or sorry, 5-year

3057
02:07:06,639 --> 02:07:11,360
general plan update. Um, so this is one

3058
02:07:11,360 --> 02:07:12,719
that I know the council might have some

3059
02:07:12,719 --> 02:07:15,840
input on. Um, our current general plan

3060
02:07:15,840 --> 02:07:19,760
was updated or adopted in 2022. So we're

3061
02:07:19,760 --> 02:07:22,560
now going on four years to do it.

3062
02:07:22,560 --> 02:07:26,400
>> Um, it's a major project to do that. Um,

3063
02:07:26,400 --> 02:07:28,239
it's $150,000.

3064
02:07:28,239 --> 02:07:30,480
And like I said, every one of these

3065
02:07:30,480 --> 02:07:32,320
things we've kind of wrestled on like,

3066
02:07:32,320 --> 02:07:34,239
uh, should we I mean, some of those

3067
02:07:34,239 --> 02:07:36,719
items that you saw put in for fund

3068
02:07:36,719 --> 02:07:38,880
balance use, we kind of had in, then we

3069
02:07:38,880 --> 02:07:41,119
had out, and in. Same thing with some of

3070
02:07:41,119 --> 02:07:43,280
these where it's just I know that we'd

3071
02:07:43,280 --> 02:07:44,800
like to do it, but we thought, well,

3072
02:07:44,800 --> 02:07:47,920
let's just maybe kick this one year and

3073
02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:51,920
do uh general FL plan update next year,

3074
02:07:51,920 --> 02:07:54,320
but that's again for discussion for

3075
02:07:54,320 --> 02:07:58,639
council. if how you feel about that. Um,

3076
02:07:58,639 --> 02:08:01,119
again, 2022 was when our current plan

3077
02:08:01,119 --> 02:08:04,960
was last adopted. And then the BLP and

3078
02:08:04,960 --> 02:08:06,639
Z, that's business license and planning

3079
02:08:06,639 --> 02:08:08,239
and zoning study and just kind of

3080
02:08:08,239 --> 02:08:09,599
figuring out are we charging the right

3081
02:08:09,599 --> 02:08:12,320
fees. Um, and rather than outsource

3082
02:08:12,320 --> 02:08:14,880
that, we think we can um do that study

3083
02:08:14,880 --> 02:08:18,239
inhouse. Uh, under parks, we've got a

3084
02:08:18,239 --> 02:08:20,719
couple of mowers uh and a well a mower

3085
02:08:20,719 --> 02:08:23,520
and a sprayer that um are in need of

3086
02:08:23,520 --> 02:08:24,800
replacement.

3087
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:28,480
um or addition to the fleet on this the

3088
02:08:28,480 --> 02:08:30,400
sprayer is an additional sprayer, right,

3089
02:08:30,400 --> 02:08:31,520
Cole? But

3090
02:08:31,520 --> 02:08:33,520
>> um we thought let's see if we can push

3091
02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:37,360
off on that one. Um capital projects

3092
02:08:37,360 --> 02:08:40,079
down here in the bottom left.

3093
02:08:40,079 --> 02:08:42,480
>> Uh trappers. So there's there's no way

3094
02:08:42,480 --> 02:08:44,960
we've got $3.8 million to do with

3095
02:08:44,960 --> 02:08:46,800
trappers right now, but hopefully we can

3096
02:08:46,800 --> 02:08:49,599
continue to save up for that and and do

3097
02:08:49,599 --> 02:08:51,679
that. That's the project over by the

3098
02:08:51,679 --> 02:08:53,840
do-it-yourself skate park.

3099
02:08:53,840 --> 02:08:56,800
uh into 200 north and then the 950 north

3100
02:08:56,800 --> 02:08:59,199
improvements. Um

3101
02:08:59,199 --> 02:09:00,079
you want to talk about what that

3102
02:09:00,079 --> 02:09:00,800
entails? Cool.

3103
02:09:00,800 --> 02:09:02,400
>> That was just the streetscape there as

3104
02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:05,840
you enter exit the West Davis corridor

3105
02:09:05,840 --> 02:09:08,320
there at 950 north just improving the

3106
02:09:08,320 --> 02:09:11,599
streetscape along 950 north up to Quail

3107
02:09:11,599 --> 02:09:15,599
Crossing Park and then down Sunset um

3108
02:09:15,599 --> 02:09:18,159
until you hit the the creek. So that's

3109
02:09:18,159 --> 02:09:21,199
what that money was was just yeah

3110
02:09:21,199 --> 02:09:23,440
improvements betterments on the

3111
02:09:23,440 --> 02:09:24,880
streetscape

3112
02:09:24,880 --> 02:09:26,639
>> and that's not the part of the money we

3113
02:09:26,639 --> 02:09:28,400
already got from you.

3114
02:09:28,400 --> 02:09:31,520
>> No no that that the WDC money can't be

3115
02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:33,040
used for this because it's not a

3116
02:09:33,040 --> 02:09:34,639
>> it's not part of the West Davis corridor

3117
02:09:34,639 --> 02:09:37,040
trail. So

3118
02:09:37,040 --> 02:09:39,119
>> we we've done some planning or are doing

3119
02:09:39,119 --> 02:09:41,760
some planning right now right with

3120
02:09:41,760 --> 02:09:43,199
>> plan and so when we do have funding

3121
02:09:43,199 --> 02:09:45,599
available we'll we'll have a plan we can

3122
02:09:45,599 --> 02:09:47,920
execute off of.

3123
02:09:47,920 --> 02:09:49,520
These are all tough ones because this is

3124
02:09:49,520 --> 02:09:51,040
one I know that when we were doing our

3125
02:09:51,040 --> 02:09:52,800
strategic planning meetings last year,

3126
02:09:52,800 --> 02:09:54,480
the some of the council voiced an

3127
02:09:54,480 --> 02:09:56,880
interest in like let's do more to really

3128
02:09:56,880 --> 02:10:01,520
enhance the city so it looks nice and like that included enhancing some of

3129
02:10:01,520 --> 02:10:04,159
our entrances. So coming off of West

3130
02:10:04,159 --> 02:10:05,920
Davis onto 950, that's one of those

3131
02:10:05,920 --> 02:10:07,920
areas that we'd love to make look nice,

3132
02:10:07,920 --> 02:10:10,239
add some trees and things, but again,

3133
02:10:10,239 --> 02:10:11,760
it's an expense and we thought, All

3134
02:10:11,760 --> 02:10:13,920
right, maybe this is when we kick down

3135
02:10:13,920 --> 02:10:16,560
the road one more year and see if we can

3136
02:10:16,560 --> 02:10:18,560
save up a little bit. I know we we can't

3137
02:10:18,560 --> 02:10:20,000
we don't have the bandwidth probably to

3138
02:10:20,000 --> 02:10:23,679
do everything, but um

3139
02:10:23,679 --> 02:10:25,440
anyway, all these are up for discussion

3140
02:10:25,440 --> 02:10:27,119
input if if the council has strong

3141
02:10:27,119 --> 02:10:30,400
feelings. uh under the police uh we've

3142
02:10:30,400 --> 02:10:33,040
that parking lot gate has been broken

3143
02:10:33,040 --> 02:10:36,400
for forever pretty much couple years.

3144
02:10:36,400 --> 02:10:37,599
>> Yeah.

3145
02:10:37,599 --> 02:10:38,400
>> Um

3146
02:10:38,400 --> 02:10:40,480
>> that amounts only to do one

3147
02:10:40,480 --> 02:10:40,800
>> Yeah.

3148
02:10:40,800 --> 02:10:42,560
>> one side [clears throat]

3149
02:10:42,560 --> 02:10:44,320
>> that's just to do the south side.

3150
02:10:44,320 --> 02:10:44,960
>> Yeah.

3151
02:10:44,960 --> 02:10:47,760
>> So just a security thing but one of

3152
02:10:47,760 --> 02:10:49,119
those things that we've kind of kicked

3153
02:10:49,119 --> 02:10:51,440
down the road. Same with the drone. Um

3154
02:10:51,440 --> 02:10:53,119
kick down the road. Do you want to talk

3155
02:10:53,119 --> 02:10:54,400
about what the drone's for so people

3156
02:10:54,400 --> 02:10:55,679
understand?

3157
02:10:55,679 --> 02:10:58,000
>> Yeah. So [clears throat]

3158
02:10:58,000 --> 02:11:00,239
the drone

3159
02:11:00,239 --> 02:11:02,000
>> I can't remember the there's an acronym

3160
02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:05,360
for what they call it now but there

3161
02:11:05,360 --> 02:11:06,960
>> it's great that we can like we've been

3162
02:11:06,960 --> 02:11:08,880
able to call on Josh and we've been able

3163
02:11:08,880 --> 02:11:10,639
to call on fire chief and his people to

3164
02:11:10,639 --> 02:11:12,560
come out. One of the biggest things we

3165
02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:16,079
were missing there is timing u how fast

3166
02:11:16,079 --> 02:11:18,159
we respond to this agencies that are

3167
02:11:18,159 --> 02:11:20,800
using them. They're making sure most of

3168
02:11:20,800 --> 02:11:22,320
them that are operating them now have

3169
02:11:22,320 --> 02:11:25,280
drones on every shift. Um, and the

3170
02:11:25,280 --> 02:11:27,599
significance of that is speed because

3171
02:11:27,599 --> 02:11:29,520
time is our biggest friend and our worst

3172
02:11:29,520 --> 02:11:31,280
enemy.

3173
02:11:31,280 --> 02:11:37,760
The when we looked into it, there's an aspect we we can't get from

3174
02:11:37,760 --> 02:11:40,079
the help we get is there's an interior

3175
02:11:40,079 --> 02:11:43,199
drones that they're starting to use for

3176
02:11:43,199 --> 02:11:46,000
uh not only officer or fire safety, but

3177
02:11:46,000 --> 02:11:48,159
the safety of the people in the house.

3178
02:11:48,159 --> 02:11:51,360
Um, interior drones are they can be

3179
02:11:51,360 --> 02:11:54,880
tactical or or not, but there's drones

3180
02:11:54,880 --> 02:11:57,440
specific that fly through a building.

3181
02:11:57,440 --> 02:12:00,239
Um, if they get knocked down, they have

3182
02:12:00,239 --> 02:12:02,639
the capability of blowing themselves

3183
02:12:02,639 --> 02:12:05,599
around and picking themselves back up.

3184
02:12:05,599 --> 02:12:08,400
It's it's become a huge part of public

3185
02:12:08,400 --> 02:12:12,079
safety. Um,

3186
02:12:12,079 --> 02:12:13,520
yeah,

3187
02:12:13,520 --> 02:12:16,159
>> great for searching for lost. Yeah. And

3188
02:12:16,159 --> 02:12:17,679
that and that's where the timing thing

3189
02:12:17,679 --> 02:12:20,000
comes in is the searching for whether

3190
02:12:20,000 --> 02:12:23,679
it's a lost elderly person at Apple Tree

3191
02:12:23,679 --> 02:12:26,639
to our guy that walked away up on the

3192
02:12:26,639 --> 02:12:27,920
top of Crestwood.

3193
02:12:27,920 --> 02:12:29,040
>> You're probably one of the few

3194
02:12:29,040 --> 02:12:30,320
departments around that don't have a

3195
02:12:30,320 --> 02:12:30,560
drone.

3196
02:12:30,560 --> 02:12:32,239
>> We're the only one in the county that

3197
02:12:32,239 --> 02:12:33,440
doesn't have a drone program.

3198
02:12:33,440 --> 02:12:34,480
>> Doesn't make sense. Really?

3199
02:12:34,480 --> 02:12:34,960
>> Right now.

3200
02:12:34,960 --> 02:12:37,920
>> We don't need insurance. Get a drone.

3201
02:12:37,920 --> 02:12:41,040
>> Yeah. Can I speak to you?

3202
02:12:41,040 --> 02:12:44,236
>> Um, I was in a conference in Denver

3203
02:12:44,236 --> 02:12:46,800
[snorts] in October and and I

3204
02:12:46,800 --> 02:12:48,719
>> I went to a drone. They were talking

3205
02:12:48,719 --> 02:12:50,719
about the significance of a helicopter

3206
02:12:50,719 --> 02:12:53,440
and a drone and like just the different

3207
02:12:53,440 --> 02:12:56,480
use for all of them and

3208
02:12:56,480 --> 02:12:57,760
there was probably 100 people in the

3209
02:12:57,760 --> 02:12:59,840
room when they asked who doesn't have a

3210
02:12:59,840 --> 02:13:01,520
drone program. I was the only one who

3211
02:13:01,520 --> 02:13:03,040
raised their hand.

3212
02:13:03,040 --> 02:13:05,280
>> But it just because it's become such a

3213
02:13:05,280 --> 02:13:10,427
big part of public safety.

3214
02:13:10,437 --> 02:13:13,109
» [laughter]

3215
02:13:13,119 --> 02:13:14,880
» I like to be different. I like to be the

3216
02:13:14,880 --> 02:13:15,280
person.

3217
02:13:15,280 --> 02:13:16,800
>> Yes, you do. That's why I love you.

3218
02:13:16,800 --> 02:13:18,320
>> Raises their head.

3219
02:13:18,320 --> 02:13:24,079
>> You're like, "Sometimes I drone on."

3220
02:13:24,079 --> 02:13:25,679
>> Yes.

3221
02:13:25,679 --> 02:13:27,040
>> All right. I mean, you were complaining

3222
02:13:27,040 --> 02:13:29,920
that I wasn't talking. So, you are

3223
02:13:29,920 --> 02:13:31,840
>> Who was complaining about that?

3224
02:13:31,840 --> 02:13:33,599
>> I was.

3225
02:13:33,599 --> 02:13:36,480
>> So, um

3226
02:13:36,480 --> 02:13:38,400
I feel like uh

3227
02:13:38,400 --> 02:13:40,320
I'm going to

3228
02:13:40,320 --> 02:13:43,187
>> remember that Abigail.

3229
02:13:43,187 --> 02:13:43,599
[laughter]

3230
02:13:43,599 --> 02:13:45,440
>> So, never to kind of try to wrap this

3231
02:13:45,440 --> 02:13:47,280
up. I know everyone's kind of tired out

3232
02:13:47,280 --> 02:13:50,480
and um been on boarding, but uh yeah,

3233
02:13:50,480 --> 02:13:52,719
we're also deferring the alignment

3234
02:13:52,719 --> 02:13:54,239
system. There's a system that would help

3235
02:13:54,239 --> 02:13:56,480
us just do more in-house

3236
02:13:56,480 --> 02:14:00,960
uh um gosh, preventative maintenance and

3237
02:14:00,960 --> 02:14:04,079
alignments. Uh but we're going to kick

3238
02:14:04,079 --> 02:14:07,119
that one down the road. the Arctic Wolf

3239
02:14:07,119 --> 02:14:09,199
software we talked about. Um that's just

3240
02:14:09,199 --> 02:14:11,280
kind of cyber security type stuff and we

3241
02:14:11,280 --> 02:14:12,880
think there's a state system that will

3242
02:14:12,880 --> 02:14:16,639
kind of maybe help us do some of that this would have done. So we're

3243
02:14:16,639 --> 02:14:19,119
going to try that right in a nutshell.

3244
02:14:19,119 --> 02:14:22,159
Um major capital requests. So here's

3245
02:14:22,159 --> 02:14:24,320
where we get into

3246
02:14:24,320 --> 02:14:25,440
um

3247
02:14:25,440 --> 02:14:27,280
>> these are duplicates right because they

3248
02:14:27,280 --> 02:14:30,239
were funded by fund balance but

3249
02:14:30,239 --> 02:14:31,040
>> um

3250
02:14:31,040 --> 02:14:34,639
>> so the the total is is duplicated or

3251
02:14:34,639 --> 02:14:37,360
duplicates in the total. Yes. Yep.

3252
02:14:37,360 --> 02:14:38,560
>> So, um

3253
02:14:38,560 --> 02:14:40,320
>> the Barnes Tower concrete bleacher

3254
02:14:40,320 --> 02:14:41,840
that's funded by Fun Balance, but it's

3255
02:14:41,840 --> 02:14:43,280
still a capital

3256
02:14:43,280 --> 02:14:44,639
>> item.

3257
02:14:44,639 --> 02:14:46,480
>> Uh yeah. Did we talk about the mower,

3258
02:14:46,480 --> 02:14:47,679
the brush mower?

3259
02:14:47,679 --> 02:14:49,920
>> You want chat on that? Talk about that.

3260
02:14:49,920 --> 02:14:51,280
>> So, this is a mower that we currently

3261
02:14:51,280 --> 02:14:55,440
don't we don't have. We have a lot we we

3262
02:14:55,440 --> 02:14:57,920
have a lot more increasing in weed lots.

3263
02:14:57,920 --> 02:14:59,760
We've always had weed lots, but we've

3264
02:14:59,760 --> 02:15:02,320
currently been using u some of our old

3265
02:15:02,320 --> 02:15:05,760
just rider turf mowers, but it really is

3266
02:15:05,760 --> 02:15:07,280
getting to the point it just doesn't

3267
02:15:07,280 --> 02:15:10,480
work. The mowers get beat up so bad. Um,

3268
02:15:10,480 --> 02:15:13,040
and so this mower is just a specially

3269
02:15:13,040 --> 02:15:16,320
designed just for uh

3270
02:15:16,320 --> 02:15:18,800
non manicured turf, like just brush

3271
02:15:18,800 --> 02:15:21,119
mowing with the on and off ramps for

3272
02:15:21,119 --> 02:15:23,520
West Davis, I-15,

3273
02:15:23,520 --> 02:15:25,599
things like that that we uh they're just

3274
02:15:25,599 --> 02:15:27,360
trying to do using some makeshift.

3275
02:15:27,360 --> 02:15:29,760
That's what that is. And the utility car

3276
02:15:29,760 --> 02:15:32,079
replacement is just we have a a utility

3277
02:15:32,079 --> 02:15:34,239
card at Barnes Park that's we're leaking

3278
02:15:34,239 --> 02:15:38,000
oil into the engine and

3279
02:15:38,000 --> 02:15:40,000
we we hope

3280
02:15:40,000 --> 02:15:42,320
>> we hope that we can get it till July. Um

3281
02:15:42,320 --> 02:15:44,159
but it's it's just a replacement. The

3282
02:15:44,159 --> 02:15:46,079
utility cart's a replacement for an

3283
02:15:46,079 --> 02:15:47,760
existing card out there that we use for

3284
02:15:47,760 --> 02:15:50,639
all of our ball fields. Um and just

3285
02:15:50,639 --> 02:15:53,360
throughout the park at Barnes Park. So

3286
02:15:53,360 --> 02:15:54,880
the other two I've already talked about.

3287
02:15:54,880 --> 02:15:55,679
So

3288
02:15:55,679 --> 02:15:57,679
>> perfect. under fire. I know we talked

3289
02:15:57,679 --> 02:15:59,520
about the cameras already, the deputy

3290
02:15:59,520 --> 02:16:01,280
fire chief vehicle. Anything you want to

3291
02:16:01,280 --> 02:16:02,719
say to that, Chief?

3292
02:16:02,719 --> 02:16:04,400
>> I have a question on that. Does it have

3293
02:16:04,400 --> 02:16:06,400
to be a specialized vehicle?

3294
02:16:06,400 --> 02:16:09,440
>> Can't we just pay towards someone?

3295
02:16:09,440 --> 02:16:14,790
>> No, because they got to respond with

3296
02:16:14,800 --> 02:16:17,040
Does it have to special? Okay.

3297
02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:18,079
>> Prius is going to work.

3298
02:16:18,079 --> 02:16:19,520
>> I didn't know what

3299
02:16:19,520 --> 02:16:23,840
>> Just a little Prius. Yeah,

3300
02:16:23,840 --> 02:16:25,920
I I just read that they're the best for

3301
02:16:25,920 --> 02:16:28,249
clearing intersections.

3302
02:16:28,249 --> 02:16:29,360
[laughter]

3303
02:16:29,360 --> 02:16:31,760
>> I read that

3304
02:16:31,760 --> 02:16:39,910
just GBT.

3305
02:16:39,920 --> 02:16:41,679
» It wasn't a big deal.

3306
02:16:41,679 --> 02:16:44,000
>> Excuse me on you.

3307
02:16:44,000 --> 02:16:46,000
>> Thank you, John. Thank you for taking

3308
02:16:46,000 --> 02:16:47,920
>> Thank you everybody. So, that's it. Uh

3309
02:16:47,920 --> 02:16:49,200
everything else we've talked about

3310
02:16:49,200 --> 02:16:53,840
already on this list. Uh so next slide

3311
02:16:53,840 --> 02:16:56,639
that's that's our uh presentation for

3312
02:16:56,639 --> 02:16:59,359
today. So any questions? We're going to

3313
02:16:59,359 --> 02:17:01,920
send out these slides as well and I know

3314
02:17:01,920 --> 02:17:05,040
you'll have more to digest here, but

3315
02:17:05,040 --> 02:17:07,040
we're happy to meet oneonone or or bring

3316
02:17:07,040 --> 02:17:09,599
up questions in the next meeting. Is

3317
02:17:09,599 --> 02:17:11,120
there is there a feeling that we need to

3318
02:17:11,120 --> 02:17:14,080
have follow-up discussions and schedule

3319
02:17:14,080 --> 02:17:15,840
another

3320
02:17:15,840 --> 02:17:19,120
um workshop on this the items we've

3321
02:17:19,120 --> 02:17:21,439
talked about or do you we could talk

3322
02:17:21,439 --> 02:17:22,880
about those in council meeting as well

3323
02:17:22,880 --> 02:17:24,719
if you want.

3324
02:17:24,719 --> 02:17:27,120
>> There's one just texted me and she said

3325
02:17:27,120 --> 02:17:29,359
she forgot to hit record. Is it okay if

3326
02:17:29,359 --> 02:17:30,880
we do the whole thing again?

3327
02:17:30,880 --> 02:17:32,719
>> Okay, everybody take a break. We're

3328
02:17:32,719 --> 02:17:33,599
going to redo.

3329
02:17:33,599 --> 02:17:36,479
>> Jason, I I appreciate everything you

3330
02:17:36,479 --> 02:17:38,000
guys have done. I think this is

3331
02:17:38,000 --> 02:17:40,800
fantastic. We looked at a a significant

3332
02:17:40,800 --> 02:17:42,800
raise last year which did make us sick

3333
02:17:42,800 --> 02:17:44,399
but we had some good justifications for

3334
02:17:44,399 --> 02:17:46,960
it and to not be able to have to

3335
02:17:46,960 --> 02:17:50,800
replicate that plus an additional huge

3336
02:17:50,800 --> 02:17:53,200
is so helpful. So thank you for looking

3337
02:17:53,200 --> 02:17:56,080
at it in a creative way because

3338
02:17:56,080 --> 02:17:58,319
we already know what we've done and it's

3339
02:17:58,319 --> 02:18:00,240
not something that we ever want to do

3340
02:18:00,240 --> 02:18:02,559
but we had some some good reasons for

3341
02:18:02,559 --> 02:18:04,479
the agenda stuff. and Mike has

3342
02:18:04,479 --> 02:18:06,559
>> I just have one question and and it's

3343
02:18:06,559 --> 02:18:08,080
just from going through and listening

3344
02:18:08,080 --> 02:18:11,439
and seeing everybody and all that is I I

3345
02:18:11,439 --> 02:18:13,920
feel like there is one position that I

3346
02:18:13,920 --> 02:18:15,760
would love to see maybe come in as

3347
02:18:15,760 --> 02:18:17,519
part-time started. I know I'm not one

3348
02:18:17,519 --> 02:18:19,439
that likes to add employees. I really

3349
02:18:19,439 --> 02:18:22,080
don't. But I think that police secretary

3350
02:18:22,080 --> 02:18:23,920
over there that has to do all that

3351
02:18:23,920 --> 02:18:25,840
camera work and redaction and stuff to

3352
02:18:25,840 --> 02:18:27,359
get that stuff ready for our attorneys

3353
02:18:27,359 --> 02:18:29,599
on Monday that go I guess then they go

3354
02:18:29,599 --> 02:18:32,800
through all the cases. Um,

3355
02:18:32,800 --> 02:18:34,719
I would love I rather than hit us up

3356
02:18:34,719 --> 02:18:37,040
with a full-time employee, is there any

3357
02:18:37,040 --> 02:18:40,240
way that maybe we can work something

3358
02:18:40,240 --> 02:18:44,479
that I because she she appears I've seen

3359
02:18:44,479 --> 02:18:46,559
everybody. she had if she's sick or

3360
02:18:46,559 --> 02:18:49,439
something or has no backup whatsoever, I

3361
02:18:49,439 --> 02:18:51,040
don't know how the cases would move

3362
02:18:51,040 --> 02:18:55,040
forward, but she she spends, like I

3363
02:18:55,040 --> 02:18:58,800
said, she'll spend 4 days redacting a

3364
02:18:58,800 --> 02:19:02,960
case off of uh a 2-hour call that there

3365
02:19:02,960 --> 02:19:04,880
are four officers with four cameras

3366
02:19:04,880 --> 02:19:07,519
there and she gets a grandma act for it.

3367
02:19:07,519 --> 02:19:10,000
So, she has to get all that. Is there

3368
02:19:10,000 --> 02:19:12,719
any does that make sense to you, Seth?

3369
02:19:12,719 --> 02:19:15,679
talk to your chief and

3370
02:19:15,679 --> 02:19:17,679
>> I would rather I'd love to see something

3371
02:19:17,679 --> 02:19:19,439
like that cuz I see it coming.

3372
02:19:19,439 --> 02:19:20,000
>> Yeah.

3373
02:19:20,000 --> 02:19:22,719
>> Can we try to do it with maybe I'll say

3374
02:19:22,719 --> 02:19:24,960
15 hours a week or something to start

3375
02:19:24,960 --> 02:19:27,439
with 10 hours a week and see how it goes

3376
02:19:27,439 --> 02:19:28,639
if it helps.

3377
02:19:28,639 --> 02:19:30,479
>> Yeah, anything will help at this point

3378
02:19:30,479 --> 02:19:33,200
>> because out of everything that we went

3379
02:19:33,200 --> 02:19:36,719
through and saw, I kind of felt like she

3380
02:19:36,719 --> 02:19:39,280
was the one getting

3381
02:19:39,280 --> 02:19:40,080
people.

3382
02:19:40,080 --> 02:19:41,359
>> You don't have to pay benefits and

3383
02:19:41,359 --> 02:19:43,439
stuff. That's why I say start out part

3384
02:19:43,439 --> 02:19:44,080
time strictly.

3385
02:19:44,080 --> 02:19:45,920
>> I'm just saying two part time. Then you

3386
02:19:45,920 --> 02:19:47,519
have someone to offset, you know, if you

3387
02:19:47,519 --> 02:19:49,280
have vacation or sick instead of one

3388
02:19:49,280 --> 02:19:49,920
full time.

3389
02:19:49,920 --> 02:19:51,600
>> Oh, I don't Yeah, that's why I want part

3390
02:19:51,600 --> 02:19:53,600
time. That's why I'm suggesting part

3391
02:19:53,600 --> 02:19:54,720
time. I'm saying two people.

3392
02:19:54,720 --> 02:19:55,840
>> Oh, you're saying two part time.

3393
02:19:55,840 --> 02:19:57,600
>> Two part time instead of one full time

3394
02:19:57,600 --> 02:19:58,960
because it's still cheaper than having

3395
02:19:58,960 --> 02:19:59,600
to pay.

3396
02:19:59,600 --> 02:20:01,520
>> Yeah, that's start out with just the one

3397
02:20:01,520 --> 02:20:03,439
part-time and see what it helps her

3398
02:20:03,439 --> 02:20:07,200
with. See how much that helps her. Yeah,

3399
02:20:07,200 --> 02:20:10,000
I think any help is great because to

3400
02:20:10,000 --> 02:20:14,399
your point, if if she calls in sick,

3401
02:20:14,399 --> 02:20:16,800
Cindy can do some of it, but then in

3402
02:20:16,800 --> 02:20:20,240
turn, if if Kimberly's gone,

3403
02:20:20,240 --> 02:20:22,240
Cindy also has to run everything else at

3404
02:20:22,240 --> 02:20:25,520
the same time. She'll So, she'll man the

3405
02:20:25,520 --> 02:20:28,560
front, all the walk, all her foot. Yeah.

3406
02:20:28,560 --> 02:20:29,359
So,

3407
02:20:29,359 --> 02:20:30,720
>> it's completely up to her.

3408
02:20:30,720 --> 02:20:31,359
>> Yeah. Anyhow,

3409
02:20:31,359 --> 02:20:32,800
>> how she

3410
02:20:32,800 --> 02:20:35,200
>> Yeah. distributes those out. But at

3411
02:20:35,200 --> 02:20:39,280
least maybe let's look at a let's just

3412
02:20:39,280 --> 02:20:42,319
for let's say a 10 15 hour a week

3413
02:20:42,319 --> 02:20:44,800
part-time person

3414
02:20:44,800 --> 02:20:46,479
help her and get through [clears throat]

3415
02:20:46,479 --> 02:20:48,960
her day.

3416
02:20:48,960 --> 02:20:51,760
>> We do that HR position Jason was talking

3417
02:20:51,760 --> 02:20:56,000
about part-time. It's only 29,000.

3418
02:20:56,000 --> 02:20:59,359
So So I would assume his police would be

3419
02:20:59,359 --> 02:21:00,080
similar.

3420
02:21:00,080 --> 02:21:01,840
>> That would be a huge bang for the Would

3421
02:21:01,840 --> 02:21:04,560
you be okay if I built in two or just

3422
02:21:04,560 --> 02:21:05,200
one?

3423
02:21:05,200 --> 02:21:06,800
>> I think just start one. Let's just start

3424
02:21:06,800 --> 02:21:08,640
one and see how. And then she says,

3425
02:21:08,640 --> 02:21:11,680
"This has been a great help."

3426
02:21:11,680 --> 02:21:12,960
>> We need to go fulltime.

3427
02:21:12,960 --> 02:21:13,600
>> Great.

3428
02:21:13,600 --> 02:21:15,280
>> Maybe we have to wait on the next budget

3429
02:21:15,280 --> 02:21:17,120
year to add someone else, right? Because

3430
02:21:17,120 --> 02:21:19,520
we don't like to do a midterm.

3431
02:21:19,520 --> 02:21:22,080
>> I mean, you we can always do amendments

3432
02:21:22,080 --> 02:21:23,520
budget amendment, but I know

3433
02:21:23,520 --> 02:21:25,120
>> it just seemed like there was a huge

3434
02:21:25,120 --> 02:21:25,600
need for

3435
02:21:25,600 --> 02:21:28,160
>> the budget amendments are normal. I know

3436
02:21:28,160 --> 02:21:30,800
that you guys don't like it,

3437
02:21:30,800 --> 02:21:33,439
>> but technically

3438
02:21:33,439 --> 02:21:35,760
>> transparency and all of that, like it's

3439
02:21:35,760 --> 02:21:38,880
normal for them to come more often than

3440
02:21:38,880 --> 02:21:40,319
we have been doing in the past.

3441
02:21:40,319 --> 02:21:42,640
>> But if it's a, you know, if it's a

3442
02:21:42,640 --> 02:21:45,040
schedule for you

3443
02:21:45,040 --> 02:21:47,200
>> offered as a part-time job for so many

3444
02:21:47,200 --> 02:21:48,960
hours a week, there's so probably a lot

3445
02:21:48,960 --> 02:21:50,880
of people around here that would be

3446
02:21:50,880 --> 02:21:52,720
interested in it. And

3447
02:21:52,720 --> 02:21:54,960
>> part time is is very lucrative. It's how

3448
02:21:54,960 --> 02:21:56,880
you worked into your court request for

3449
02:21:56,880 --> 02:21:58,720
your full-time. I mean, originally that

3450
02:21:58,720 --> 02:22:00,880
was only a 10hour a week job. Then it

3451
02:22:00,880 --> 02:22:03,040
became a 20 your secretary.

3452
02:22:03,040 --> 02:22:03,439
>> Yeah.

3453
02:22:03,439 --> 02:22:05,600
>> And then a 30 and now it's become full.

3454
02:22:05,600 --> 02:22:08,160
But it's taken 10 or so years to get to

3455
02:22:08,160 --> 02:22:11,040
that point. That's good. That's good to

3456
02:22:11,040 --> 02:22:12,640
see how that works.

3457
02:22:12,640 --> 02:22:15,359
>> Yeah. It's plus part-time. I mean just

3458
02:22:15,359 --> 02:22:17,120
on our job alone. Now it was part-time

3459
02:22:17,120 --> 02:22:19,280
with benefits 30 hours a week, but we

3460
02:22:19,280 --> 02:22:21,920
had 115 applicants first three days

3461
02:22:21,920 --> 02:22:22,960
>> for part time.

3462
02:22:22,960 --> 02:22:25,840
>> Yeah. So

3463
02:22:25,840 --> 02:22:28,720
>> part time is very lucrative here.

3464
02:22:28,720 --> 02:22:32,000
>> I have not had a part-time applicant in

3465
02:22:32,000 --> 02:22:34,000
8 years

3466
02:22:34,000 --> 02:22:35,439
>> for full-time jobs.

3467
02:22:35,439 --> 02:22:36,240
>> No, for [snorts] part time.

3468
02:22:36,240 --> 02:22:37,760
>> Oh, for part time.

3469
02:22:37,760 --> 02:22:38,240
>> So

3470
02:22:38,240 --> 02:22:39,439
>> have you post?

3471
02:22:39,439 --> 02:22:42,710
>> Yes. [clears throat and laughter]

3472
02:22:42,720 --> 02:22:45,520
» Yeah, we are.

3473
02:22:45,520 --> 02:22:47,498
>> Yeah, here I'll post one and then

3474
02:22:47,498 --> 02:22:53,349
[laughter] we just set

3475
02:22:53,359 --> 02:22:55,600
Oh, now you're

3476
02:22:55,600 --> 02:22:56,640
>> something I [laughter] do want to

3477
02:22:56,640 --> 02:22:58,160
technically you are the deputy chief

3478
02:22:58,160 --> 02:23:00,800
right now.

3479
02:23:00,800 --> 02:23:03,040
>> Something I do want to uh while we have

3480
02:23:03,040 --> 02:23:04,800
all the department heads here that I do

3481
02:23:04,800 --> 02:23:08,000
want to uh ask you to think about with

3482
02:23:08,000 --> 02:23:10,319
employees ask especially when you ask

3483
02:23:10,319 --> 02:23:12,399
for new employees

3484
02:23:12,399 --> 02:23:15,120
um or even with the ones you have. I

3485
02:23:15,120 --> 02:23:18,560
I've been thinking recently that there's

3486
02:23:18,560 --> 02:23:21,760
an option maybe if you feel like

3487
02:23:21,760 --> 02:23:24,960
somebody can take on more responsibility

3488
02:23:24,960 --> 02:23:30,160
to pay them more money for that versus

3489
02:23:30,160 --> 02:23:32,560
hiring a new person. And I hope that

3490
02:23:32,560 --> 02:23:34,720
that's always an alter like an option

3491
02:23:34,720 --> 02:23:37,120
that you that you can ponder that we

3492
02:23:37,120 --> 02:23:40,720
would accept readily. Um, you know, I

3493
02:23:40,720 --> 02:23:42,720
just try and think of like are there

3494
02:23:42,720 --> 02:23:45,840
ways that we can fulfill what our

3495
02:23:45,840 --> 02:23:48,399
department heads need but also not have

3496
02:23:48,399 --> 02:23:52,080
to incur the cost of an entire employee.

3497
02:23:52,080 --> 02:23:55,760
And um sometimes I think thinking out of

3498
02:23:55,760 --> 02:23:57,520
the side of the box of like, okay, I've

3499
02:23:57,520 --> 02:23:58,720
got these four people. Well, I could

3500
02:23:58,720 --> 02:24:01,680
really use a fifth. Or I could ask the

3501
02:24:01,680 --> 02:24:03,920
four people, hey, are you willing to

3502
02:24:03,920 --> 02:24:06,080
take on a couple a little bit more

3503
02:24:06,080 --> 02:24:08,399
responsibility, and I'm going to give

3504
02:24:08,399 --> 02:24:12,960
each of you 10 grand more a year for

3505
02:24:12,960 --> 02:24:15,200
doing that.

3506
02:24:15,200 --> 02:24:18,479
That's 40 grand on the budget, but it

3507
02:24:18,479 --> 02:24:21,200
doesn't cost where it normally would

3508
02:24:21,200 --> 02:24:23,280
have cost us 100red to hire that

3509
02:24:23,280 --> 02:24:26,319
employee. And so I I know that you

3510
02:24:26,319 --> 02:24:28,080
probably are already doing that and you

3511
02:24:28,080 --> 02:24:29,760
may already say, "Oh yeah, my people are

3512
02:24:29,760 --> 02:24:32,800
stretched too thin." But I just, you

3513
02:24:32,800 --> 02:24:34,720
know, I just think that that's so much

3514
02:24:34,720 --> 02:24:38,240
more palatable or also an idea to and I

3515
02:24:38,240 --> 02:24:41,280
think people would probably welcome the

3516
02:24:41,280 --> 02:24:43,040
idea and probably would make them feel

3517
02:24:43,040 --> 02:24:44,880
pretty excited to get a little bit extra

3518
02:24:44,880 --> 02:24:48,160
money to to, you know, and incentivize

3519
02:24:48,160 --> 02:24:51,520
them to do a little bit extra. So,

3520
02:24:51,520 --> 02:24:53,600
>> I don't disagree at all, but keep in

3521
02:24:53,600 --> 02:24:55,600
mind throwing money at it is a

3522
02:24:55,600 --> 02:24:57,600
short-term fix. Just don't forget about

3523
02:24:57,600 --> 02:24:58,720
that.

3524
02:24:58,720 --> 02:24:59,200
>> Well,

3525
02:24:59,200 --> 02:25:00,960
>> it's not a longterm that's that

3526
02:25:00,960 --> 02:25:02,640
shouldn't be your long-term plan because

3527
02:25:02,640 --> 02:25:03,359
it doesn't work

3528
02:25:03,359 --> 02:25:06,000
>> for an employee, right? But but but

3529
02:25:06,000 --> 02:25:08,720
sometimes I think that I don't know

3530
02:25:08,720 --> 02:25:10,240
maybe I'm wrong but sometimes I think

3531
02:25:10,240 --> 02:25:16,080
you hire another person and then maybe you're observing throughout the

3532
02:25:16,080 --> 02:25:17,520
year and you're like boy it kind of

3533
02:25:17,520 --> 02:25:19,600
seems like they don't have a ton to do

3534
02:25:19,600 --> 02:25:22,800
all the time or whatever and and so yeah

3535
02:25:22,800 --> 02:25:24,800
from a short term I think it is short

3536
02:25:24,800 --> 02:25:26,665
term but like to the Mike's point

3537
02:25:26,665 --> 02:25:29,120
[snorts] with this you know rather than

3538
02:25:29,120 --> 02:25:31,600
jumping straight to hiring a second

3539
02:25:31,600 --> 02:25:34,479
person to review the videos you could

3540
02:25:34,479 --> 02:25:36,000
start with part-time. Well, another

3541
02:25:36,000 --> 02:25:38,319
option would be if there's somebody in

3542
02:25:38,319 --> 02:25:40,080
the office, I'm guessing there isn't,

3543
02:25:40,080 --> 02:25:42,160
but if there was somebody in the office

3544
02:25:42,160 --> 02:25:44,240
who seems like, oh man, they kind of

3545
02:25:44,240 --> 02:25:45,760
seems like they're sitting around like

3546
02:25:45,760 --> 02:25:49,920
they're I definitely need them, but I

3547
02:25:49,920 --> 02:25:52,160
can see that they could use like be

3548
02:25:52,160 --> 02:25:55,120
like, okay, hey, so and so, if we paid

3549
02:25:55,120 --> 02:25:57,600
you an extra 10 grand, would you start

3550
02:25:57,600 --> 02:26:01,120
reviewing the videos also? You know, and

3551
02:26:01,120 --> 02:26:03,520
you're like, they're like, heck yeah.

3552
02:26:03,520 --> 02:26:06,399
So, uh, versus if you said to

3553
02:26:06,399 --> 02:26:07,600
them, hey, we want you to start

3554
02:26:07,600 --> 02:26:10,399
reviewing videos as part of your job

3555
02:26:10,399 --> 02:26:12,160
description, they're going to be like,

3556
02:26:12,160 --> 02:26:15,680
what the I'm already, you know, so that

3557
02:26:15,680 --> 02:26:17,680
I that's the type of stuff

3558
02:26:17,680 --> 02:26:21,200
>> that would be incredibly helpful in in

3559
02:26:21,200 --> 02:26:24,240
specific situations to be able to

3560
02:26:24,240 --> 02:26:26,560
>> maximize efficiencies where currently

3561
02:26:26,560 --> 02:26:28,880
like there there is this blurb in a lot

3562
02:26:28,880 --> 02:26:30,880
of job descriptions of other duties as

3563
02:26:30,880 --> 02:26:37,600
assigned, but it's like, oh man, that is a big freaking stretch to have

3564
02:26:37,600 --> 02:26:39,760
this position

3565
02:26:39,760 --> 02:26:42,160
>> also pick up this [snorts] random thing.

3566
02:26:42,160 --> 02:26:44,560
And I think a lot of departments are

3567
02:26:44,560 --> 02:26:46,000
probably in the same boat. You know, if

3568
02:26:46,000 --> 02:26:48,800
we if we could find the ability to do

3569
02:26:48,800 --> 02:26:50,720
that, I' I've got about half of my

3570
02:26:50,720 --> 02:26:52,640
department that's at the max of their

3571
02:26:52,640 --> 02:26:55,359
scale. So, even if there was a way to

3572
02:26:55,359 --> 02:26:57,760
navigate that a little bit, I think

3573
02:26:57,760 --> 02:26:59,280
>> it it it's probably not going to solve

3574
02:26:59,280 --> 02:27:02,640
every situation, but it is we're working

3575
02:27:02,640 --> 02:27:04,160
with council as we're interacting with

3576
02:27:04,160 --> 02:27:08,720
the community. If we can show, hey, when a budget request is coming, it's

3577
02:27:08,720 --> 02:27:11,680
coming after we have exhausted

3578
02:27:11,680 --> 02:27:13,439
>> all these other efforts and

3579
02:27:13,439 --> 02:27:17,040
>> the other opportunities. So,

3580
02:27:17,040 --> 02:27:18,800
>> just something to something to keep in

3581
02:27:18,800 --> 02:27:21,200
mind. I think it's obviously a lot more

3582
02:27:21,200 --> 02:27:24,160
palatable to me to, you know, when it's

3583
02:27:24,160 --> 02:27:27,680
an employee, it comes with all of the

3584
02:27:27,680 --> 02:27:30,880
compounding elements versus when it's

3585
02:27:30,880 --> 02:27:34,640
extra money. We can I'm like, "Oh, okay.

3586
02:27:34,640 --> 02:27:36,720
Yeah, that's totally worth it, right?

3587
02:27:36,720 --> 02:27:39,439
You need the help and it's a band-aid

3588
02:27:39,439 --> 02:27:42,880
maybe, but also maybe it's a just

3589
02:27:42,880 --> 02:27:44,000
something to think about

3590
02:27:44,000 --> 02:27:45,600
>> editing, right?

3591
02:27:45,600 --> 02:27:47,840
>> Sometimes you do or you need a

3592
02:27:47,840 --> 02:27:49,600
transition. good health insurance for

3593
02:27:49,600 --> 02:27:50,240
the council.

3594
02:27:50,240 --> 02:27:50,880
>> Mhm.

3595
02:27:50,880 --> 02:27:52,640
>> So

3596
02:27:52,640 --> 02:27:54,319
>> maybe if you take health insurance, you

3597
02:27:54,319 --> 02:27:56,319
add a little bit. Yeah. 10 hours over

3598
02:27:56,319 --> 02:27:57,760
the police station.

3599
02:27:57,760 --> 02:27:58,240
>> So

3600
02:27:58,240 --> 02:27:58,720
>> yeah.

3601
02:27:58,720 --> 02:27:59,600
>> Okay, cool.

3602
02:27:59,600 --> 02:28:00,960
>> You want to see it out?

3603
02:28:00,960 --> 02:28:01,920
>> What are you saying?

3604
02:28:01,920 --> 02:28:03,520
>> I'm just I'm just saying if I'm just

3605
02:28:03,520 --> 02:28:04,880
saying

3606
02:28:04,880 --> 02:28:07,680
>> um

3607
02:28:07,680 --> 02:28:10,240
I don't know. Whatever you guys think.

3608
02:28:10,240 --> 02:28:12,479
>> I'm thinking if if we could take that

3609
02:28:12,479 --> 02:28:14,560
140 for council insurance that was

3610
02:28:14,560 --> 02:28:16,080
included, maybe we could fund some of

3611
02:28:16,080 --> 02:28:18,000
these other things that like drones. I

3612
02:28:18,000 --> 02:28:19,439
think the police department should have

3613
02:28:19,439 --> 02:28:19,760
drones.

3614
02:28:19,760 --> 02:28:20,880
>> I think they should have drones.

3615
02:28:20,880 --> 02:28:22,240
>> I really think so, too.

3616
02:28:22,240 --> 02:28:23,840
>> I think they should have drones, and I'm

3617
02:28:23,840 --> 02:28:27,120
okay um not getting insurance, but I

3618
02:28:27,120 --> 02:28:28,960
don't know what how everyone else thinks

3619
02:28:28,960 --> 02:28:30,560
as council, but I think we should think

3620
02:28:30,560 --> 02:28:31,040
about that.

3621
02:28:31,040 --> 02:28:33,600
>> You can anymore you can buy a fairly

3622
02:28:33,600 --> 02:28:36,160
inexpensive drone that has infrared on

3623
02:28:36,160 --> 02:28:38,080
them and picture taken and night vision

3624
02:28:38,080 --> 02:28:40,240
and all that crap, which is stuff they

3625
02:28:40,240 --> 02:28:41,439
would use

3626
02:28:41,439 --> 02:28:43,600
>> and they're not that expensive anymore.

3627
02:28:43,600 --> 02:28:45,280
>> Well, these guys want the ones that can

3628
02:28:45,280 --> 02:28:48,880
carry your body. [laughter] Those funds

3629
02:28:48,880 --> 02:28:49,600
are expensive.

3630
02:28:49,600 --> 02:28:50,560
>> Oh, no. We don't want those.

3631
02:28:50,560 --> 02:28:52,160
>> You don't want space.

3632
02:28:52,160 --> 02:28:53,520
>> I'm just saying I think I think you

3633
02:28:53,520 --> 02:28:55,920
should I think that's an essential thing

3634
02:28:55,920 --> 02:28:57,359
>> for your for your department and

3635
02:28:57,359 --> 02:28:59,520
extension.

3636
02:28:59,520 --> 02:29:01,200
>> They have certain requirements though

3637
02:29:01,200 --> 02:29:02,800
that you have to remember. I mean, we

3638
02:29:02,800 --> 02:29:04,960
got our drone a handful of years ago and

3639
02:29:04,960 --> 02:29:06,240
ours were 10 grand.

3640
02:29:06,240 --> 02:29:06,720
>> Yeah.

3641
02:29:06,720 --> 02:29:09,120
>> For one drone. So, their drone I'd

3642
02:29:09,120 --> 02:29:12,240
imagine is in that 15 to 20 range.

3643
02:29:12,240 --> 02:29:13,760
>> Yeah. DJI is not around.

3644
02:29:13,760 --> 02:29:14,960
>> Does it have tasers on it?

3645
02:29:14,960 --> 02:29:18,479
>> Well, they couldn't get those anyway.

3646
02:29:18,479 --> 02:29:20,640
There's a there's a scary like Chinese

3647
02:29:20,640 --> 02:29:22,560
accent voice where you can talk to

3648
02:29:22,560 --> 02:29:25,590
people

3649
02:29:25,600 --> 02:29:26,880
right now.

3650
02:29:26,880 --> 02:29:28,880
>> Yeah. It's funny cuz

3651
02:29:28,880 --> 02:29:30,240
>> they're worried about critical

3652
02:29:30,240 --> 02:29:32,080
infrastructure.

3653
02:29:32,080 --> 02:29:34,720
>> But he can but he can use it.

3654
02:29:34,720 --> 02:29:36,080
>> He's going to fly the critical

3655
02:29:36,080 --> 02:29:39,600
infrastructure way before we buy it.

3656
02:29:39,600 --> 02:29:41,840
>> I will say this, most agencies are still

3657
02:29:41,840 --> 02:29:43,840
there using DJI anyway.

3658
02:29:43,840 --> 02:29:45,120
>> Yeah, there's training that goes along

3659
02:29:45,120 --> 02:29:46,399
with it, too.

3660
02:29:46,399 --> 02:29:49,600
Oh, you got we purchased our drone 2 3

3661
02:29:49,600 --> 02:29:53,280
years ago and it came with a a classroom

3662
02:29:53,280 --> 02:29:58,399
opportunity. So, me uh one of the GIS

3663
02:29:58,399 --> 02:30:01,520
guys, firefighter went and attended.

3664
02:30:01,520 --> 02:30:02,960
>> And one of the things the Catalyst

3665
02:30:02,960 --> 02:30:05,120
School does have, they have a drone

3666
02:30:05,120 --> 02:30:07,439
program and they're more than willing to

3667
02:30:07,439 --> 02:30:09,680
work with cities to help their students

3668
02:30:09,680 --> 02:30:12,560
get along and they can help you too. And

3669
02:30:12,560 --> 02:30:14,560
we we send one off we have one officer

3670
02:30:14,560 --> 02:30:17,439
that he that he proposed this. We send

3671
02:30:17,439 --> 02:30:18,960
him to a training every year even though

3672
02:30:18,960 --> 02:30:21,439
we don't have the program so that he is

3673
02:30:21,439 --> 02:30:24,000
up to date if we have these guys come

3674
02:30:24,000 --> 02:30:26,240
out that what law enforcement if there

3675
02:30:26,240 --> 02:30:28,960
is restrictions he's aware before we

3676
02:30:28,960 --> 02:30:29,600
just let people

3677
02:30:29,600 --> 02:30:31,359
>> he's been going to driver's ed just in

3678
02:30:31,359 --> 02:30:33,760
case that vehicle comes along.

3679
02:30:33,760 --> 02:30:34,960
>> You have one don't [laughter] you?

3680
02:30:34,960 --> 02:30:37,040
>> Yeah. It seems makes no sense for me for

3681
02:30:37,040 --> 02:30:39,680
you to send a guy that is on duty.

3682
02:30:39,680 --> 02:30:40,479
>> Yes. to go

3683
02:30:40,479 --> 02:30:42,319
>> to go do a thing for the police.

3684
02:30:42,319 --> 02:30:43,439
>> Last time.

3685
02:30:43,439 --> 02:30:45,280
>> Yeah, Farmington Fire has a pretty good

3686
02:30:45,280 --> 02:30:46,880
drone program. We talked about that,

3687
02:30:46,880 --> 02:30:47,359
too.

3688
02:30:47,359 --> 02:30:49,840
>> They do. We we when we had this missing

3689
02:30:49,840 --> 02:30:51,359
person's

3690
02:30:51,359 --> 02:30:53,920
>> fire sent a guy with a drone, we went up

3691
02:30:53,920 --> 02:30:56,080
with our drone and and there was a delay

3692
02:30:56,080 --> 02:30:58,800
obviously from when the need was there

3693
02:30:58,800 --> 02:31:00,479
to when we got there. And we were

3694
02:31:00,479 --> 02:31:02,160
limited in what we could do with our

3695
02:31:02,160 --> 02:31:04,080
drone. It doesn't have all the same

3696
02:31:04,080 --> 02:31:05,040
capabilities.

3697
02:31:05,040 --> 02:31:06,319
>> They use them for accident

3698
02:31:06,319 --> 02:31:07,920
investigations. Well, we learned that

3699
02:31:07,920 --> 02:31:09,359
batteries were important because it was

3700
02:31:09,359 --> 02:31:10,720
kind of a warm day and we went through

3701
02:31:10,720 --> 02:31:12,240
batteries like you would

3702
02:31:12,240 --> 02:31:14,399
>> burn them like crazy. But like

3703
02:31:14,399 --> 02:31:16,880
Department of Public Safety

3704
02:31:16,880 --> 02:31:19,920
as well as UD do like all of the UD do

3705
02:31:19,920 --> 02:31:22,720
um incident response vehicles, those are

3706
02:31:22,720 --> 02:31:24,560
all licensed drone operators and when

3707
02:31:24,560 --> 02:31:26,399
there's an accident, they fly that with

3708
02:31:26,399 --> 02:31:30,240
LAR and they take a 3D model of that

3709
02:31:30,240 --> 02:31:32,080
site immediately.

3710
02:31:32,080 --> 02:31:34,720
>> And and I mean it's amazing. We'd like

3711
02:31:34,720 --> 02:31:37,040
it because we're going to fire uh the

3712
02:31:37,040 --> 02:31:38,479
media if they want to fly their drones,

3713
02:31:38,479 --> 02:31:40,160
but you can't stop them. But soon as our

3714
02:31:40,160 --> 02:31:43,040
drone goes up, theirs has to go down.

3715
02:31:43,040 --> 02:31:45,680
>> So, we fly just for that, too.

3716
02:31:45,680 --> 02:31:49,190
>> Anyway, something.

3717
02:31:49,200 --> 02:31:50,319
» Thanks, Jason.

3718
02:31:50,319 --> 02:31:52,240
>> Thanks, Mayor. Thank you, everybody, for

3719
02:31:52,240 --> 02:31:53,520
all the work. And

3720
02:31:53,520 --> 02:31:54,880
>> you want me to put the drone in the

3721
02:31:54,880 --> 02:31:56,960
budget?

3722
02:31:56,960 --> 02:31:57,760
>> Sounds like

3723
02:31:57,760 --> 02:31:58,479
>> I say yes.

3724
02:31:58,479 --> 02:31:59,040
>> Yes,

3725
02:31:59,040 --> 02:32:02,240
>> I say yes. But

3726
02:32:02,240 --> 02:32:04,560
>> talk mosquito. They just bought a new

3727
02:32:04,560 --> 02:32:06,319
one that does all their surveillance and

3728
02:32:06,319 --> 02:32:08,880
it's a good one and they've got a lot of

3729
02:32:08,880 --> 02:32:10,080
everyone sober.

3730
02:32:10,080 --> 02:32:11,840
>> Do do you need sort of a roll call vote

3731
02:32:11,840 --> 02:32:13,359
for that or are we good?

3732
02:32:13,359 --> 02:32:16,160
>> Um I think this is good. I mean we we'll

3733
02:32:16,160 --> 02:32:18,479
present you know more information and

3734
02:32:18,479 --> 02:32:20,080
then there'll be an ultimate

3735
02:32:20,080 --> 02:32:20,560
>> Yeah.

3736
02:32:20,560 --> 02:32:21,439
>> Okay.

3737
02:32:21,439 --> 02:32:23,040
>> But this has been great. Thank you

3738
02:32:23,040 --> 02:32:24,800
everyone. Thank you especially Marina

3739
02:32:24,800 --> 02:32:26,880
Parker for all the this is just kind of

3740
02:32:26,880 --> 02:32:28,319
the tip of the iceberg of what you're

3741
02:32:28,319 --> 02:32:29,680
seeing and all the work that they did

3742
02:32:29,680 --> 02:32:32,479
behind the scenes to vet so many things

3743
02:32:32,479 --> 02:32:34,720
and think outside of the box. So, Emory,

3744
02:32:34,720 --> 02:32:36,240
>> thank you. Thank you for

3745
02:32:36,240 --> 02:32:36,880
>> Thank you for everything.

3746
02:32:36,880 --> 02:32:39,680
>> Thank you, Emory.

3747
02:32:39,680 --> 02:32:41,200
>> I didn't think that we could go better

3748
02:32:41,200 --> 02:32:42,640
than last night with the sewer district,

3749
02:32:42,640 --> 02:32:48,389
but I think you just delivered

3750
02:32:48,399 --> 02:32:49,439
the grapes and cheese.

3751
02:32:49,439 --> 02:32:51,280
>> So, I think I think we're good to not

3752
02:32:51,280 --> 02:32:53,760
have a meeting uh later this month. We

3753
02:32:53,760 --> 02:32:55,439
had

3754
02:32:55,439 --> 02:32:57,760
>> So, the next uh budget work session

3755
02:32:57,760 --> 02:33:00,560
would be then on Friday, April 17th at

3756
02:33:00,560 --> 02:33:05,190
9:00. Okay.

3757
02:33:05,200 --> 02:33:05,680
» Great.

3758
02:33:05,680 --> 02:33:06,240
>> Good. Thank you.

3759
02:33:06,240 --> 02:33:07,359
>> All right. Thank you.

3760
02:33:07,359 --> 02:33:13,020
>> Thank you.

3761
02:33:13,030 --> 02:33:16,309
[laughter]

3762
02:33:16,319 --> 02:33:18,080
» Yeah. Fair.

3763
02:33:18,080 --> 02:33:21,120
>> I'm a fire