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Good evening. I would like to call the order of the Kaiser City Council in regular session. It is Monday, February 3rd, 2025, and ask our city recorded a please call roll. Councillor Persons?

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Councillor Courses? Councillor Courses? Mayor Christopher?

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I'm sorry.

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Bear Clark.

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Thank you.

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Council President Star.

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Here.

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Councillor CRISPR.

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Here.

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Councillor Dran.

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You have Councillor Latifer.

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Here.

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Thank you very much.

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If you are able, I ask you to rise and all join us in the pledge of allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

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And do the Republic for which it stands.

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One nation, I'm a God,

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invisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you all very much.

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It is my pleasure this evening to go to our special

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Orders of Business, which is the Proclamation for Black History Month.

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And I would like to invite up,

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carry Brown and Tais Road to introduce our speaker for this evening.

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Are you coming? No, it's just that carry. Okay.

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Yes, please.

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I thought, uh, uh, Tai is going.

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No.

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Yes, if you would.

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If you would please.

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You have to be at the microphone so they can hear.

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Make sure you can hear, but as microphone on.

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But I think everybody can hear me.

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No, television has to.

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I have carried good teachers.

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This is Brown.

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It's recorded, right?

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Television has to hear you.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Please.

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All right.

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Yep.

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Thank you.

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Is it on?

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Okay, so I am so happy to be here tonight and to be able to see Johnny whom I have known for more than a couple of decades.

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We go, I haven't seen him in years, but you know, you have those kinds of friends that you haven't seen forever and when you meet up it's like all times.

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So, Johnny and I go back to the days when he, I would order a city, and I used to do multicultural

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presentation for a city of Kaiser School District, and that was like 25 to 30 years ago.

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Anyway, I would like to just read a little bit about Dr. Johnny Lake.

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to me, he has always been Johnny, but he's really a doctor. Johnny Lake is a nationally certified

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and internationally recognized educator and speaker in programs focused on race culture equity,

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inclusion leadership diversity, implicit bias, community building, cross cultural interactions

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and ethics. He serves as a teacher, writer and storyteller in the US, Europe, Turkey, Australia,

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and Canada. Dr. Wright worked as an associate professor of education in counseling at the

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university level and also served as a child therapist for children and adolescents for over

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10 years. He is a strong advocate for children and families and has focused on developing

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strategies and curriculum to disrupt bullying behaviors of children. He graduated from

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the University with a B.S. in history and was awarded the Phi Beta

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Kappa designation for excellence. He received his master degree and PhD in

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educational leadership, policy management and organization from the University of Oregon.

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He also holds a K-12 Administrator Certification from the same university and is

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an Administrator on Special Assignment in Eugene. He is a former member and chairman for

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State of Oregon Commission on Black Affairs and Former Education Chair for the NWACP.

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He's a former resident of Kaiser.

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His son still lives in Kaiser and grandchildren, and they are here tonight.

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Please welcome, Johnny.

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He is going to share a little bit about the importance of Black History Month for him.

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Thank you.

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You know, you make a mistake when you give a professor five minutes.

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But I'm going to squeeze as much as I can into this five minutes.

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The first place I called home was right down the street on Shemai Road when I first came to Oregon.

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My son was born on the bed down at 839 Shemai Road north.

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He's about 50 years old now.

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So these 25 years seems kind of short.

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I wrote something so I wouldn't be editorializing.

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Change is difficult for human beings, yet we live in a world that is in constant change.

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In fact, if a living organism or organization stops changing, is there.

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But people are creatures of habit, and we resist change. It makes us uncomfortable.

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But it is a law of nature that living things do change and adapt in order to survive.

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My ancestors, as recently as one generation ago, were not allowed to vote.

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To go to school, to eat in restaurants, to stay in hotels, to occupy certain jobs or positions,

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to be safe and interacting with law enforcement or public agencies, or even walking down the street.

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That change considerably in my lifetime.

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But I do believe we're having to continue to work for a change.

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I saw white-only signs when I was a little boy.

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And once again, I see signs that only white people are going to be chosen for certain opportunities.

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This coded in certain ways so that merit is said to be the line for who gets to be hired

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and merit oftentimes is related to who someone is.

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My ancestors were denied the rights of voted to all citizens of the U.S.

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Education was considered as unnecessary for many of my ancestors,

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and in fact, you could be killed for learning to read.

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Together, PowerPoint, last minute, I just wanted us to look at a little bit of our history.

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We informed the set of passes not dead, it's not even passed.

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Next slide, please.

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I'll send this to all of you if you want to review it a little more.

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Next slide.

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Oregon was the only state ever admitted into our union with a racial exclusion act in its Constitution.

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Next slide please.

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The 15th Amendment, Oregon legislator, legislature denied ratification in 1870 and in three additional votes over the next 80 years.

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It was not ratified in our state until 1959. Next slide.

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I'll skip that one. Next slide.

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Well, maybe we'll go back. I'll just let you listen to that and that'll be the last part of mine.

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conversation because this is a historical record that really speaks to all of us today. So let it play.

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You know, I'm really good in the right, I'm really good in the right, I'm really good in the right of school.

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To good schools now, no you don't want to go with white people. I don't even, you know, go and all bored on this thing, but I believe,

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God, people ought to be given good school, and I believe we ought to be given right to go in to whatever you qualify to go into, and I believe we ought to be given right to vote.

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And I remember him looking at me, first say I'd lend kind of sweetly and condescending and said, you know you still got to disease, I know you think you cured, but you're not cured.

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So you're talking, are you sitting there talking and I don't know what's nice and I know

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you're good man. Talking about giving me this, giving me that right. You talking about

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giving me something that I was born with just like you was born with it. You can't give

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me the right to be a human being. I'm born with that right. Now you can keep me from having

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that. If you've got all the policemen and all the jobs on your side, you can deprive me

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But you can't give it to me.

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And I was born with it just like you was.

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I got it.

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I had a profound effect on me.

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I was furious with him.

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You try to be kind to these people.

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You see it.

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Give me an inch and they'll take an ale.

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But the more reflect on it, the more profoundly it effected.

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And I realized this was where it really was.

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Couldn't give them something that they were born with.

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Just like I was born with.

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Tidal to it.

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Same way.

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I was entitled with it.

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On F. Kennedy.

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I'm not satisfied until every American enjoys his full constitutional rights.

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If a Negro baby is born and this is true also for the Reekens and Mexicans, in some

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of our cities, he has about one half as much chance to get through high school as a white

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baby.

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He has one third as much chance to get through college as a white student.

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He has about a third as much chance to be a professional man and about half as much chance

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to own a house.

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He has about four times as much chance that he'll be out of work in his life as the white baby.

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I think we can do better.

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I don't want the talents of any American to go to waste.

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John F. Kennedy.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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Carrie, did you want to introduce our student?

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You know?

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Jane is.

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Jane, come on down over to introduce Miss Marion Pope team.

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Hi, this is Amari Young.

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she is an 18-year-old senior at Sprite High School. She is very involved within her community.

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She is currently the Miss Mary and Folk County teen advocate for equality or excuse me.

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Sorry, she's currently, she's currently Miss Mary and Folk County's teen

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and advocate for equality and representation of black Americans. I'm already participates in

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school's leadership program and is the elected spirit coordinator for her senior class.

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Let's all welcome Amari.

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Hello everyone, yes my name is Amari Young and today I'll be performing a poem for you guys

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that I wrote originally and it is called Hair Towards Heaven.

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They say my hair is interesting and they want to touch it if that's okay.

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I feel like a part of me dies when they approach it no matter what I summon the words to say.

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Not because I feel like a show, or that they don't know what it took for me to grow it.

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But because there is so much that I had to say that they simply didn't know and lacked the strength to show it.

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They feel inclined to occupy my space, regardless of the location.

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Ignoring the scowel on my face, are my defensive inclination.

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Funny how people can take possession of things in their heads that are connected to my body.

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It's a reminder of times of my ancestors who have far less space to speak of these things and the ability to stop it.

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Who advocates for the black child that sits on history's broad shoulders?

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We squabble in between a lovable mountains sitting as obstacles and boulders.

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We live in breathe as a testament of freedom while you just sit with that stare.

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And on my worst day of fighting those mountainous struggles, you ask to touch my hair.

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What if my hair is mine and it grows on me and doesn't belong to you?

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Would you ask to touch it if I was seen as human and not a speck of school to view?

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The black child that flowers regardless in a sea of newly poured concrete that sprouts a flower

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in the cracks of 400 years of history's lies and to see.

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To an America that knows its people, even those that built this country for free.

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The black child that fades and is ever growing will always reside in me.

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I will advocate for that child and also for those this country doesn't see.

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Just remember, as you gaze, you may have never seen hair like mine in all its ways.

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I thought it was beautiful, well, I think so too, and that's just fine.

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But pause for a moment and respect the history of defines.

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Before you touch, take a step to be aware and think about why do you want to touch my hair.

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Thank you.

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Let's give another round of applause and thank you to Dr. John Lake and to Mr. Mario.

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I will now read the proclamation and ask both of them to join me in accepting this

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proclamation for Black History Month. Whereas Black History Month celebrates rich cultural heritage,

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triumphs and universities that are in integral part of our country's history. And whereas 50 years

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after the first celebrations, then President Gerald R.

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For officially recognized black history month, at the country's 1976 by Centennial, and called on Americans to quote,

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seize the opportunity to honor the two often neglected accomplishments of black Americans in every area of endeavor throughout our history, and quote,

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And whereas Dr. Carter G. Woodson found her of the association for the study of African American

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life and history, first had the idea of this month-long celebration in 1926, out of

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concern that black children were not being taught about their ancestors' achievements in American

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schools.

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And whereas the 2025 theme is African Americans and Labor, which focuses on the various and

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in ways that working and work of all kinds intersect with the experiences of black people.

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And whereas 2025 marks the 100 year anniversary of the creation of the brotherhood of sleeping

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car, porters and maids by a labor organizer and civil rights activist, a Philip Randolph,

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which was the first black union to receive a charter in the American Federation of Labor.

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And whereas Martin Luther came to an your incorporated issues outlined by Randolph March's

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Randolph's March on Washington movement, such as economic justice into the poor people's

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campaign, it which he established in 1967.

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And whereas the people of Kaiser recognize and celebrate their accomplishments, contributions

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and achievements of our Black community members.

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Therefore, I, Kathy Clark, married the City of Kaiser, do hereby proclaim the month of February

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2025 as Black History Month and urge all the people of Kaiser to heed the call to study the history of Black Americans' responses and support efforts to establish safe spaces, institutions, communities, and homes where Black Lives can be sustained, fortified, and respected.

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Ladies and gentlemen, Black History Month.

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Thank you very much.

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Well, Bruce Lee and Deja,

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being joined on the way back then.

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The challenge is something

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you know,

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operation of love.

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I can't do that.

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Yeah, I can't do that.

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I can't

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do that.

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I can't do that.

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Okay, ready?

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First set.

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Start to look happy.

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I can't do that.

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Okay, look at me.

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For those of you who don't know, Ron Berkeley, he's very involved with the Kennedy Family Council,

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so glad to have him here with us tonight.

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And Ms. Deja, who is Marlene's granddaughter, is also here with us tonight.

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So again, thank you all very much.

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And thank you for coming and making time in your busy schedules to share with us tonight.

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We really appreciate it.

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We will now go to our next sort of business and that will be committee reports.

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Make it my, oh, I love my glasses up there.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I'm like, it's not on my head.

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All right.

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So I'm going to start off with a couple of committee reports and then we will go to the

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Adam on the agenda for the Community Diversity Engagement Committee.

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So I'd like to invite up Harris Thankser to talk about traffic safety.

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If you would.

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City Council president and council members.

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I'm her thankser.

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I'm a longtime member for traffic bike ways in pedestrian committee.

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I'm here tonight to give an update on our last meeting,

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which was the first meeting of 2025 for our committee.

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The first thing we did in we did spend a little time

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is the election of new officers for the committee, Michael DeBlossi, was the new chair, and

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tentatively, Brenda Lam will be the vice chair.

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It wasn't a very long meeting, but we did have some input from the neighborhood.

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Lisa and Robert Baker from Kaiser were came to talk about some issues related to speeding from

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the roundabout on Virgilaine to Lock Haven and they had some information to share with us

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which we are clearly going to put on our project review sheet and try to monitor that

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and work with the police and public works possibly do some studies in the near future.

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The other one that we got issue but this came up several months ago and they prepared

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a neighborhood traffic management program was Park Meadow and they were wanting a speed study.

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Fortunately, the speed study was going on while we spoke at the meeting, so that information

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will be coming at our next meeting.

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Also, we know that we're maintaining our project spread rate, the list of projects in the issues that we people bring to us or people on the committee have brought so we can kind of monitor whether what kind of actions are being taken or whose jurisdictions some of them are so we can get it whether it's to the transit district ODOT or I'm going to name county issue.

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We did get kind of an FYI for our February meeting that we will be hearing about some issues,

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especially from the Northwest Kaiser Neighborhood Association, about speeding on Windsor Island

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and street racing on Windsor Island in Lockham.

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So that'll be our next, we'll hear about that this next month.

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As I said, it was kind of a quick, quicker meeting than we generally have, but it was a good one to get to start the new year.

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Is there any questions?

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Any questions from Mr. Thanks, sir?

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I have one, are going to be doing any helmet fittings and so forth between now and the next couple months, or is that pretty much a spring thing?

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And that is generally a spring thing and again, we're hoping and wanting from anybody in the

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community businesses or organizations to help with a helmet fund because we haven't bought

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any helmets just yet, but it doesn't take very long to get those helmets once we have

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some money.

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We have a few helmets right now, so if somebody calls or contacts us, we can fix them with

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health at right now, but our projects generally is spring and we're working possibly with

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wet all elementary for another bike skills event and with the fire department and maybe

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Salem Health. That's another possibility. And of course we always work with the fire department.

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Wonderful. Thank you so much. Really appreciate it. Thank you.

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Um, for report on greater no with these kinds of neighbor association, Tammy Kans.

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You signed up.

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We're doing that?

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Okay.

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No?

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Okay.

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I will set that aside.

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Anybody else here for committee report that I missed?

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Nope.

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Let's go to item 5A then.

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The community diversity engagement committee.

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Point message, the manager.

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Thank you.

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Madam Mayor, Council of the City Recorder.

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How's this item?

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Thank you.

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Is this visit?

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Okay.

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Mayor and City Council.

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On January 21st, you adopted New Council rules of procedure and it states that each member

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will make a one-member appointment to the volunteer courney committee and the community of

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our senior engagement committee as allowed in Council resolutions for a two-year term.

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So that's item tonight is for you to make this appointment for the two-year term or you

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quite changed your resolution yet? That's later down on the agenda. So right now they are technically

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pretty outcomes. Well, then I've got a question of procedure because in the rules of procedure

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adopted on January 21st it said quote,

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these rules supersede any individual resolutions relating to

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specific committees. So these rules now supersede the committee diversity engagement

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resolution, as I understand it, unless I am mistaken in my interpretation of Mr. Lindsey

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with that B-correct, that this piece will supersede?

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Do you know which 18.2?

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18.2.

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Because I believe what was,

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um, I got sure.

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Okay, well, I'm trying to pull out, thank you.

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Just a minute.

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So, the first sentence on page 25 at the very bottom for the last sentence, it says,

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for council members appointments via council.

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These rules supersede any individual resolutions relating to the specific committees.

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So, the council member appointments via the council was for the council when the council

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Council members get appointed to Council committees as my understanding of it, whereas down below

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you'll see that it continues to say that I'm

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trying to find the additional one where

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it says that there's a resolution unless there's a different resolution in a different process.

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Oh, that's the sentence before that I believe.

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If I may, it's right before that, so the paragraph, as I read it, says, except for council members, all applicants above and above.

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For council member appointments via council, so these are the way I read it was the council makes, which is VCC and now CDC, these rules to proceed any individual resolutions relating to specific committees.

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Well, I'll say, it's up to the Council, I guess, what the specific interpretation of that is,

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my understanding of that was the win when it was changed, and this is just my understanding of it,

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but your understanding is what the governance and rules here as a group was, a lot of the underlying

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resolutions of each committee said that the mayor appointed the liaison. And so this was in my head was an attempt to say for council member appointments by a council meeting.

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The council appointing its own members to committees. That was when these rules supersede any individual resolutions.

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So, that was my understanding, but I don't, again, if you guys interpret your rules differently,

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you guys are the ones that their lower rules and the box stops with you guys.

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Well, the first sentence says, each house member as Ms. Bishop just read, that each

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council member will make a one member appointment to the VCC and the Community Nursing Engagement

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Committee for two year term. So, that was the change made two weeks ago. So, in order to be

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That is the process that needs to happen in order to be in compliance with the current rules.

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So we haven't changed anything.

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We haven't had that conversation which is obviously later on in our agenda.

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But that has two elements that had both the Council membership as well as the appointment process,

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which got put into that agenda item as well.

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And this is sort of, and I don't know if this is carte before the horse.

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I know historically we've done appointments early on in each agenda.

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Later on, there was also a resolution to bring the VCC or the CDC membership and appointment process and alignment with the VCC.

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And so it was anticipated that it was going to be a two-year term.

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And so we changed, in the process of changing your rules, we changed it to a two-year term.

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I assumed that this group would still want to vote for that that way, but they haven't done it yet.

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And so, you know, we're at a weird pause where we have non-conformity of our own rules.

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So, unless we want to, you know, quickly take up the resolution to bring those into two-year alignment.

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versus whether you want to proceed forward with them at a conformity and just say we want them to be two year terms because that's the last boat we took.

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You can do that as well.

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So,

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yeah, the way I read this was and the reason it well, it's on the agenda because there are vacancies as well, but this is the change made by the council. So, these are the rules that the council made about changing the appointment process.

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Helps us across. Thank you, Madam Mayor. May we make a suggestion. Since we have three different items with the CDC that we talk about them all together.

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We could take some sequentially and out of order. Is that the.

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The third they're all over the now.

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Right. We've got this. We've got item number here.

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We have eight, eight, eyes and eight, eight, eight, eight, and eight, and eight, eye, all three that are dealing with the commute diversity engagement committee.

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So we could either take this out of order the appointments and move it down to eight by before and eight, eight, and then we'll do those three in a row.

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But after I, so that conversation about

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whether or not you want to proceed with the resolution

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in item I, in particular, H is somewhat separate, but it is all related to the same

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committee. Is that the consensus of Council to move 5A to be after 8I?

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Yes.

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Is that correct?

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Hearing consensus, we will make that adjustment in the agenda.

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5A.

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All right.

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We will do that.

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All right.

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Thank you very much.

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Let's go to public comment.

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This time is provided for citizens to adjust the council on any matters.

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other than those on the agenda schedule for public hearing.

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There are two public hearing schedule for this evening.

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One is a resolution, a supplemental budget,

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a strong water fund, worker's compensation,

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and an item 70, which is resolution, supplemental budget,

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general fund, police operations, insurance proceeds.

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If you're here for that, stay tuned.

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In the meantime, before we go to a spoken comment,

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I do want to acknowledge written comment for the record.

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From David LaDaye, resident of Kaiser.

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Thank you regarding PERS retirement conflict and this is regarding the excellent work by our city staff in regards to PERS and our retirees.

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So thank you for that. From Daniel and Potter resident of Kaiser, concerns regarding Council from Tammy Kahn's resident of Kaiser, concerns regarding Council and Jacqueline Green,

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residents of Kaiser, concerns regarding changing rules of procedure, so those are all entered into

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the record under written comment.

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Okay, so I've got people signed up for public comment,

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so just for folks who haven't done this before, you'll be asked to state your name,

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your city of residence for the record, and you have five minutes, it's your turn to talk and

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ours to listen, and we would just, if we ask any questions, it'll just be clarifying questions,

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and we just asked the two direct comments to the presiding officer, which is Ma.

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And then we will try to listen as quietly and respectfully as we can to each and every person who wants to speak.

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Okay? So in no particular order, we will start with Kerry Brown.

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We would like to talk to us about the community first engagement committee.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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Stand by.

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did you want to do we just move that agenda item down you wanted to speak people in public

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okay carry if you would okay Councilor Joran thank you I just wanted to make a couple

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comments there's been a lot of talk out in the community by you know on Facebook on

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and I guess I've all been Facebook.

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But I wanted to talk about the community

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to diversity and engagement committee.

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We're asking to postpone this committee

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until we have a further, a better understanding

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of what DEI designation means for federal funding.

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I and I'm sure I speak for my fellow counselors,

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do not want to jeopardize our ability

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to secure federal funding for transportation infrastructure

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and safety improvements, and also at this time we don't have a full appointment, at least I didn't think we did, for this committee, so we should wait until all positions are filled before we move forward.

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And then I had another comment about some facts about the mayor or all appointments, I don't know.

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Before you proceed, Councillor Duran,

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while I appreciate you expressing your point of view,

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I would decline from saying that your comments reflect

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everybody on council, because I do not concur.

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Oh, okay.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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I did some research.

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Well, I now get into deliberations,

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so my concern is that your comments, and thank you,

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I appreciate that, but your comments are directly

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type to item eight I and that's really where that belongs or I'm sorry eight

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H so I do appreciate you while you make these comments at this point but we

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just moved all of that to that part of the agenda so we don't want to get into

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deliberation.

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We just get we just moved that. Thank you madam Mary.

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Thank you

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All right.

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We moved 85A to farther down in the agenda. So, deliberating on issues regarding that agenda item at this point would be out of order.

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I understand that, but this is in our agenda, I understand that, but this is time for public comment.

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So if you want to respond to something she says, that would be under that particular agenda item, but other than that, this is the time for public comment.

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And it's hard time to listen, so I would like to proceed with our public comment.

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I appreciate Councillor Dram that you have things that you would like to express.

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But we're going to need to listen to the public at this point if we may proceed.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for the clarification.

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Thank you.

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Ms. Brown.

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Thank you.

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Red light on.

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Get close.

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Oh, yes.

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Okay.

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All right.

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My name is Cuddy Dodd, Lee Brown, and I am known by members of this community as Keri.

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And I will proceed to read a statement that I prepared in regards to some of the proposals that are being addressed today in regards to the CDC.

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Okay, so as a long time Kaiser resident and member of the CDC committee, I would like to address some items on the council agenda.

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First, I would like to share the mission statement of the CDC.

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It exists to foster justice, diversity, equity and inclusion, and to strengthen our community through active listening and order to strengthen and encourage engagement,

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and understanding and empowerment and to advise the city council on issues that are critical

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to connecting our community.

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My opinion is that the CDC structure does not have to mirror that of the VCC.

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I don't see the need for this change.

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It's current structure that consists of three year terms for each citizen appointment with

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The option of reappointment has worked.

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Citizen members can communicate with counselor regarding such reappointments.

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Next, regarding the proposal to pause the CDEC meetings until the committee definitions,

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goals and direction are determined.

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The CDEC has worked hard since its inception to develop its mission statement.

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We have also a working document with the definitions.

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Our goals are clear.

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If the direction needs discussion, it can happen without

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pausing the meetings.

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This is an ongoing task because the needs of the community are fluid.

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I see no need to pause our meetings.

458
00:39:46,370 --> 00:39:49,510
I personally feel that the committee is being

459
00:39:49,510 --> 00:39:57,650
respected with this proposal. I have received many emails, phone calls and messages since

460
00:39:57,650 --> 00:40:04,970
the Council agenda was made public. The false who have contacted me are of the opinion that

461
00:40:04,970 --> 00:40:12,340
the Council real intent is to get rid of the CDC committee. Based on some of the comments and

462
00:40:12,340 --> 00:40:19,220
feedback with how observe some members of the council, I can see why this perception exists.

463
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,760
It is a perception and that's very important.

464
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,560
I have always advocated for transparency in all of our discussions.

465
00:40:28,340 --> 00:40:30,240
We had a work session that was cancelled.

466
00:40:31,060 --> 00:40:36,480
No one asked any CDC member for input when these proposals were made.

467
00:40:37,300 --> 00:40:44,280
We would like to be respectfully included in any discussion with the Council regarding any changes.

468
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,680
I have read the legal analysis regarding these proposals.

469
00:40:49,820 --> 00:40:52,420
I hope you listen to the members of the CDC.

470
00:40:53,300 --> 00:41:00,640
The people who have contacted me feel that the Council in its present makeup is not friendly to people of color.

471
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:11,740
And to people from marginalized communities, so it is up to me and others to be the listening ear and the voice for them.

472
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:18,060
I sincerely hope that you take my comments seriously and in the spirit of collaboration.

473
00:41:19,700 --> 00:41:21,460
And I just want to add a couple of items.

474
00:41:22,340 --> 00:41:28,460
I had a very, very brief conversation this evening with Councillor Colour.

475
00:41:28,460 --> 00:41:33,700
I have known consular color for years and years and years and years.

476
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:39,600
He shared with me the reason why he proposed a pause of the committee meeting

477
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:47,220
is because there was not a clear direction from the CDC for the last couple years.

478
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,840
And I just want to respond to that comment here.

479
00:41:52,880 --> 00:42:01,920
We have had two council members on the CDC for as long as I have been on that committee councilor

480
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:11,620
star and councilor read and if anybody on this councilor had any question or needed clarification,

481
00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:21,100
they could have come to us either through councilor star or council read or to any of our committee members

482
00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:27,220
and asked for direction, clarification, and that I don't think has ever happened.

483
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,900
And that's ever since, you know, I, uh, been on the kelly.

484
00:42:34,180 --> 00:42:35,940
Do I? I can't talk anymore.

485
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,660
We would have to, um, may, um, this brown finish was sent.

486
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:46,140
What? The, the five minutes is up. Okay, so I'm done. Yes, ma'am.

487
00:42:46,740 --> 00:42:49,820
Okay. Well, I'm not a professor, but I could talk and talk that past you.

488
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:59,080
Thank you for coming to the time, so I have a question for you.

489
00:42:59,220 --> 00:43:03,380
Thank you, Madam Mayor, first of all, thank you for being my appointee for the last year.

490
00:43:03,420 --> 00:43:07,460
And thank you, comfort cross. I appreciate working with you.

491
00:43:07,820 --> 00:43:13,400
You know, as the one person of color up here on this diet, I appreciate everything that you do.

492
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:14,980
Well, thank you so much.

493
00:43:15,860 --> 00:43:16,240
Thank you.

494
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,960
I was going to respond to our counselor, Christopher, but I guess I got cut off.

495
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,140
So we'll talk another time.

496
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,980
Unless Ms. Councilor Christopher wants to put

497
00:43:24,980 --> 00:43:28,180
into a form of a question, then you can do that.

498
00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:29,800
All right, you want the question?

499
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,180
It was just very good.

500
00:43:31,180 --> 00:43:32,060
OK, thank you.

501
00:43:32,140 --> 00:43:32,440
Thank you.

502
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,240
Next up, I have Jane Tichno.

503
00:43:54,100 --> 00:43:55,120
Hi, can you hear me, OK?

504
00:43:55,460 --> 00:43:55,480
Yes.

505
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,220
Does your name and city of residence for the record?

506
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:00,900
Hi, I'm Jane Tichno.

507
00:44:01,100 --> 00:44:02,540
I'm a resident of Kaiser.

508
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:12,780
I first want to say that my goal is to create and continue positive working relationships with all of you,

509
00:44:13,100 --> 00:44:19,300
because I believe that good leadership requires all of us to work together.

510
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,900
And right now, especially the voters are asking for that.

511
00:44:26,500 --> 00:44:36,260
I want to thank the speakers, the Marian Johnny, for giving us through time tonight and expressing their experience as black people in this community.

512
00:44:37,340 --> 00:44:54,040
As we celebrate Black History a month, it's just so ironic that we are having the conversation of eliminating or suspending diversity because we are fearful of losing out on funds.

513
00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:59,970
You know the

514
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:22,080
CDC brings a sense of belonging to Kaiser. I've been on the committee all of one month, but the little bit that I have heard is that it helps Kaiser understand who they are here and helps them learn about different local opportunities that they can be a part of.

515
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:26,720
Kaiser, you know, the people of Kaiser want to belong, they want to be connected.

516
00:45:27,300 --> 00:45:33,120
We have to foster that. We have to reflect that value. That is the expectation.

517
00:45:36,380 --> 00:45:45,720
The task that was given to us last month was to define the four words. And as it is documented

518
00:45:45,720 --> 00:46:07,040
in emails, I did that in partnership with others in the Kaiser community, non-white bodies giving their experience, giving their understanding of these words, helping us figure out what our mission is.

519
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:13,240
the city of Kaiser expects their work to be respected.

520
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:20,480
And so the fact that we would do this just days before,

521
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,220
we're supposed to affirm these definitions.

522
00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:25,680
I think it's just very interesting.

523
00:46:26,740 --> 00:46:30,760
And also to say that it's similar to this other committee

524
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:35,500
when you guys are creating positions like the vice president

525
00:46:35,500 --> 00:46:45,780
that I'm not sure offers any sort of help to the actual Kaiser voters is also very interesting to me.

526
00:46:46,220 --> 00:46:51,840
So if you really care about making sure that time is spent wisely,

527
00:46:52,660 --> 00:46:56,880
that I would suggest you reflect that also in your meetings.

528
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:07,760
DEI does not take away your opportunity to thrive.

529
00:47:08,300 --> 00:47:15,320
It has never taken away any opportunity from you to feed your family or to get the job

530
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:16,340
that you want.

531
00:47:16,820 --> 00:47:22,820
I see a lot of white bodies and positions of power up here.

532
00:47:23,460 --> 00:47:26,760
DEI does not take away anything from you.

533
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:53,560
And in fact, I see one young black woman sitting among all of you guys, and for you to have the audacity, the audacity to think that you can suspend this committee with this young woman sitting right here next to you, is absurd, and that is not the values of the voters that put you in these positions.

534
00:47:53,560 --> 00:48:03,600
I expect this Council not to bend out the knee to a fascist takeover.

535
00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:08,140
Be brave, be better than not.

536
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:14,080
We vote if you into these positions.

537
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:20,480
And right now, at a national level, we understand how these local spaces can be affected.

538
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:31,120
We recognize that because we are those people that will be affected, but we care about our neighbors and we will stand up for them and we expect you to do the same

539
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:42,140
So in a few days when we do have this committee, I hope that we will affirm the definitions that we work very hard to complete

540
00:48:42,140 --> 00:48:44,060
Thank you for your time

541
00:49:00,210 --> 00:49:04,110
Next up, we have Tayyiz Rodik to talk about the CTEC appointments.

542
00:49:12,150 --> 00:49:12,870
Can you hear me okay?

543
00:49:13,310 --> 00:49:15,070
I follow some tough acts, but that one.

544
00:49:17,500 --> 00:49:17,740
Okay.

545
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:19,440
My name is Tayyiz Rodik.

546
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,240
I'm a resident of Kaiser have been for the last 19 years.

547
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,160
As a former chair of the Community Engagement and Diversity Committee,

548
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:32,800
I'm here to request a city council consider postponing the item that is on the agenda tonight

549
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,360
to change the appointments for the Community Engagement and Diversity Committee.

550
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:42,300
My request is that you actually spend some time with the current members of the CDC who

551
00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:47,500
met in January so there has been a meeting and asked their opinions and thoughts on the

552
00:49:47,500 --> 00:49:51,820
matter before just moving, bullying ahead with a decision.

553
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:57,040
As some of you may recall, we had a joint session of this community diversity engagement

554
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:03,200
community and city council on September 23rd, 2024 and this was very much a topic that was

555
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:08,400
liberated and discussed in the community along with the VCC members, although not officially.

556
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:14,460
You may still choose not to adopt the CDC recommendations, as you certainly did not adopt

557
00:50:14,460 --> 00:50:19,600
the recommendation brought forth in the June 6 council meeting last year, but I'd like

558
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,480
to see the dialogue and conversation take place.

559
00:50:23,060 --> 00:50:27,660
My reservation and concern with the speed through which city council is deliberately moving

560
00:50:27,660 --> 00:50:33,180
this process is that it's meant to remove or replace the current members of the community,

561
00:50:34,220 --> 00:50:39,440
who have done outstanding job in getting a community engagement framework in place, which

562
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:44,900
you might have seen adopted by the city if you've noticed the increased number of postings

563
00:50:44,900 --> 00:50:46,840
on Facebook and Instagram.

564
00:50:48,460 --> 00:50:53,420
Furthermore, my most serious concern with some of these actions is that there is a deliberate

565
00:50:53,420 --> 00:50:59,240
intent of the city council to ultimately do away with the community engagement and diversity

566
00:50:59,240 --> 00:51:05,000
community. As this committee has faced noted opposition from councillors currently present

567
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,000
on city council. Thank you.

568
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,400
Thank you.

569
00:51:16,460 --> 00:51:18,900
Do you have a question? Do you have a question for...

570
00:51:18,900 --> 00:51:20,160
Jan just said something.

571
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,100
Would you would you like to ask the question of the speaker?

572
00:51:24,340 --> 00:51:26,060
Not of the speaker, no.

573
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:27,400
Okay, thank you.

574
00:51:27,460 --> 00:51:31,040
But we're not supposed to be having clapping in our meetings.

575
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:36,280
I'll remember that with what we have the library and other groups as well.

576
00:51:36,620 --> 00:51:37,340
Thank you.

577
00:51:38,770 --> 00:51:39,330
Thank you.

578
00:51:39,630 --> 00:51:41,090
I appreciate that.

579
00:51:42,570 --> 00:51:44,850
I'm now going to go to Jacqueline Green.

580
00:51:45,230 --> 00:51:45,990
It's public comment.

581
00:51:58,820 --> 00:52:01,280
My name is Jacqueline Green, I'm an advisor.

582
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:07,740
And it's too hard for me to mention I'm writing to sure something concerns I have with

583
00:52:07,740 --> 00:52:11,900
Council of Change in the World to procedures without community input.

584
00:52:12,700 --> 00:52:18,480
I have received some phone calls and messages from our community and they are very concerned

585
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:23,840
on why the rush to change the rules and not in our community input.

586
00:52:24,660 --> 00:52:30,660
It feels like you are trying to be deceitful and pull the wall of a Kaiser's eyes by rushing

587
00:52:30,660 --> 00:52:36,420
through this and not being forthcoming. Furthermore, changing how our city has been doing

588
00:52:36,420 --> 00:52:43,460
the things, does not seem to have the best interests of Kaiser families or best intentions

589
00:52:43,460 --> 00:52:50,660
for myself as a voter. The council is terrified voices for the community, not just yourself.

590
00:52:51,300 --> 00:52:57,600
Our voices are what should manifest. I am very sad and feel like Kaiser is going to take out

591
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:04,040
saying, and this is not why I choose to live here. I choose to be involved in this process

592
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:12,120
because I care and I community has enough challenges and should not have suffer for a person

593
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:12,800
agenda.

594
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:16,840
Thank you. Next

595
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,320
up I have Alex Miller.

596
00:53:39,500 --> 00:53:40,880
My name is Alex Miller.

597
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,060
I have lived in the

598
00:53:49,060 --> 00:53:56,960
I just see in the paper that we just had an election recently, and we elected to Mayor,

599
00:53:57,660 --> 00:54:03,920
and then I see in the paper that we have, for the paper.

600
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,860
So I don't know if Lyndon wrote this or last, but in Clark seems particularly offended

601
00:54:09,860 --> 00:54:13,020
by the changes that shook the mayor of the power to appoint people to committees.

602
00:54:13,900 --> 00:54:17,700
Under the revised procedures, the full council now will consider and decide such appointments

603
00:54:17,700 --> 00:54:22,520
Clark said this up in it a process used since the city was founded in 1982.

604
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:30,540
So my question I guess for the council is, is that true, are we changing something without

605
00:54:30,540 --> 00:54:36,140
public notice or public, I don't know if we voted on that, are we changing something that's

606
00:54:36,140 --> 00:54:38,980
been in place since 1982?

607
00:54:42,670 --> 00:54:51,350
to answer the question. Thank you. The rules were changed at the last council meeting at about

608
00:54:51,350 --> 00:54:57,730
of 61 to change the rules from the appointment process from the mayor making appointments

609
00:54:57,730 --> 00:55:03,430
for the non-volunteer coordinate committee positions to be a vote of the council. So, yes,

610
00:55:03,610 --> 00:55:09,770
that was the change that was made at the last council meeting. The rules were discussed at a work

611
00:55:09,770 --> 00:55:18,750
session on January 18 and a copies were sent out to the council shortly after three o'clock

612
00:55:18,750 --> 00:55:24,270
the day of the meeting and were published for public view after the meeting.

613
00:55:26,860 --> 00:55:30,740
A councilor, Dran, would you like to all add to that?

614
00:55:31,240 --> 00:55:37,120
A little background in 2020 before I was elected, before I was elected on council,

615
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:41,220
the city charter was amended by the vote of the people of Kaiser in a general election

616
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:47,560
that 2020 city charter amendment included eliminating the language that provided authorization

617
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:54,640
for the Office of Mayor to make all appointments to committees. So in this last month we were

618
00:55:54,640 --> 00:56:04,420
just aligning to that with our council rules to that amendment four years later. Yes.

619
00:56:04,420 --> 00:56:11,120
Well, we go through the rules in the past six to two days to do my sidewalk or I was going to have my property

620
00:56:12,100 --> 00:56:13,060
literally leaned

621
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:16,220
so I

622
00:56:16,220 --> 00:56:18,500
find that to be

623
00:56:18,500 --> 00:56:19,560
rather odd

624
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:25,120
Well, there's a lot of a lot of things in our code that we don't even see until we go specifically go through them

625
00:56:26,140 --> 00:56:30,680
Do you want me to get you a copy of the letter of the lean that I had because that was pretty clear?

626
00:56:32,940 --> 00:56:37,700
So I just find that odd. So if that's the answer we're going to get then I just just

627
00:56:37,720 --> 00:56:43,280
just reading the paper and I just find it odd that that's the excuse four years later that we're going to do this.

628
00:56:44,940 --> 00:56:50,340
So thank you for your time. Thank you. That was everybody I had signed up.

629
00:56:50,460 --> 00:56:53,240
Is there anyone else would like to trust the council under public comment?

630
00:56:55,220 --> 00:56:56,660
Come on down. Hi Rina.

631
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:03,440
And again, just to remind your name and city of residence for the record and you have five minutes.

632
00:57:04,500 --> 00:57:10,380
My name is Renak Gonzalez and I have been a room Kaiser since 1975.

633
00:57:12,340 --> 00:57:19,400
So, like the gentleman who just spoke, I read the paper and read things, so I wrote a statement

634
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,320
because we did have an election.

635
00:57:22,780 --> 00:57:26,420
And whether you agree with the election or not, there can't be power place.

636
00:57:27,100 --> 00:57:31,520
We had an election and we have to keep to what the people of Kaiser wrote it.

637
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,160
It doesn't feel very good as a citizen.

638
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,180
This long to open the paper and find out

639
00:57:38,180 --> 00:57:41,920
there was a three hour notice before you changed

640
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:42,400
the rules.

641
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:43,700
The public had no time.

642
00:57:43,860 --> 00:57:46,060
There was three hours from what I've read.

643
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,760
So recent changes to the council procedures,

644
00:57:50,220 --> 00:57:52,560
such as stripping the mayor's appointment authority,

645
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,320
and remaming her from boards like homeless alliance.

646
00:57:56,740 --> 00:57:59,460
She helped create, were passed with only three hours

647
00:57:59,460 --> 00:58:02,040
notice from public review from what I've read.

648
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:08,340
This raises urgent questions for me and other Kaiser citizens about whether we're meeting

649
00:58:08,340 --> 00:58:15,440
the spirit of Oregon's transparency law or our own city of Kaiser's.

650
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:22,380
We have used, let's see, Kaiser, I'm so nervous I don't know why, it was kind of me.

651
00:58:22,380 --> 00:58:29,360
We have used to ensure decisions are made openly with the public, not behind closed doors.

652
00:58:29,860 --> 00:58:39,320
If Kaiser's rules and procedures are being sideline, we must revisit the transparency and collaboration of the group.

653
00:58:40,220 --> 00:58:51,020
These changes implemented quickly, have denied us as residents, a meaningful chance to understand, engage with the decisions and reshape our city's government.

654
00:58:52,330 --> 00:58:58,590
This has led to a sense of disconnection. I thought a lot of people, people feel it doesn't

655
00:58:58,590 --> 00:59:06,750
power, they feel disconnected. It feels so like what? And these aren't just procedure

656
00:59:06,750 --> 00:59:14,270
tweaks. They alter how power is distributed in Kaiser decisions that profoundly impact

657
00:59:14,270 --> 00:59:21,550
our community. They deserve sunlight, scrutiny, and debate. Somebody's expertise does matter.

658
00:59:22,750 --> 00:59:28,410
Side lane and mayor with institutional knowledge of critical issues, like the homeless,

659
00:59:28,750 --> 00:59:33,190
the homeless, and now she's worked on for five or six years. I know some of you wanted to put

660
00:59:33,190 --> 00:59:40,230
16 years on it, but it's been five or six years. This harms our community's ability to solve

661
00:59:40,230 --> 00:59:41,370
problems effectively.

662
00:59:42,730 --> 00:59:46,490
My concern isn't who holds the power, but how the power is used.

663
00:59:46,970 --> 00:59:54,910
If the goal is fairness, why bypass the public democracy requires dialogue before decision,

664
00:59:56,510 --> 00:59:58,650
not performative debates after the fact.

665
00:59:59,030 --> 00:59:59,970
And I want our urge to say that.

666
01:00:01,260 --> 01:00:16,120
Revisit these changes with proper public notice. Commence to transparency moving forward. No more last minute votes with three hours, because some of you have decided this is how you want the situation to go.

667
01:00:18,500 --> 01:00:24,000
Prioritize collaboration, not power struggles to address Kaiser's real challenges.

668
01:00:24,860 --> 01:00:29,040
This isn't about, right, versus wrong, like I said, it's about rebuilding trust.

669
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:34,420
When residents feel ignored, they lose faith in their government.

670
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:39,300
Let's prove that Kaiser values integrity and open dialogue.

671
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,860
Let's commit to transparency and public engagement.

672
01:00:43,860 --> 01:00:54,240
I also want to encourage you to have a recall for the vice president, for the chairs, for the movies, those were not open to the public to have a decision.

673
01:00:55,060 --> 01:00:55,280
Thank you.

674
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,040
Thank you.

675
01:00:58,380 --> 01:00:59,180
Give a question.

676
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,220
Okay, oh, I'm sorry.

677
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,680
Um, council president, as far as the question for stuff.

678
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:08,460
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

679
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:13,080
Mr. Lindsey, so, um, sorry.

680
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:15,820
I'm, um, on day call, brain.

681
01:01:16,980 --> 01:01:23,300
Um, can you walk, just review the timeline that we've spent on the

682
01:01:23,300 --> 01:01:30,240
or roles, I think since it just walked through that, and then what the purpose of the

683
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:37,580
council roles are related to why they exist in terms of us up here at the DIS.

684
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,720
So I don't know if I'm being clear and I'm sorry.

685
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,720
No, I can try to answer that.

686
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:50,300
And this will be helpful because it is true that the paper might write certain things and there

687
01:01:50,300 --> 01:01:54,920
might be summed through to it and then they might have skipped over a few essential facts.

688
01:01:56,820 --> 01:02:06,140
So Council President Star brought up suggested changes to Council's procedures and rules

689
01:02:06,140 --> 01:02:09,600
on December 2nd to the Council meeting.

690
01:02:10,580 --> 01:02:18,620
At that time, the Council told me to or by consensus basically said, okay, go take these

691
01:02:18,620 --> 01:02:25,520
gestures and then leave open the window for anybody else on the council to offer suggestions

692
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:29,940
to changes to the rules to come back to the December 16 meeting.

693
01:02:30,500 --> 01:02:35,600
We brought all of those back in a red line form all of the suggested changes on December

694
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:44,560
16 and then at that time there was some discussion and then it got put over because the

695
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:49,640
was taking too long, and the meeting was taking too long, so it got put to the next meeting,

696
01:02:50,060 --> 01:02:58,420
which was January 6th, where the same exact rules and red lines were in that meeting as

697
01:02:58,420 --> 01:03:03,820
well. And there were, on both of these, there were agendas, line items that the staff report

698
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:11,700
and all of these rules existed, and properly noticed, and publicized, like, when I was due,

699
01:03:11,700 --> 01:03:19,380
And then after the 6th we were going to go and we were ordered to come back on the 21st

700
01:03:19,380 --> 01:03:24,700
so we put together a packet of those rules that we knew at the time knowing that on

701
01:03:24,700 --> 01:03:31,320
the January 18th we were going to also have a work session on Saturday morning.

702
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:36,720
That Saturday morning work session pretty much entirely was consumed by the rules.

703
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:43,800
It was a four hour and 20 minute meeting and at that meeting and if you looked in the package tonight,

704
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,840
you can even see the minutes about the discussion of that meeting.

705
01:03:48,260 --> 01:03:57,420
And they basically discussed the exact same potential rule changes that had been in the packet on December 16th,

706
01:03:57,700 --> 01:04:03,480
as January 6th, as well as for January 21st.

707
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,720
because we released the packet information

708
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,440
about a week ahead of time.

709
01:04:08,660 --> 01:04:11,360
So we released the packet on January 15th

710
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:12,400
for the 21st meeting.

711
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,440
So we didn't know exactly what changes were going to

712
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,840
the final tweaks on the workshop at the 18th.

713
01:04:18,980 --> 01:04:23,680
So in the packet, we put all of the red line information

714
01:04:24,260 --> 01:04:27,660
to the suggested rule changes, knowing that maybe

715
01:04:27,660 --> 01:04:32,440
a few of those would get tweaked at the January 18th workshop.

716
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:37,560
So, what we did was we actually put in those changes and then we put in statements that said,

717
01:04:37,940 --> 01:04:42,160
we understand that these might be slightly tweaked at the January 18th workshop.

718
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:47,160
And so, we will make sure that there's a physical copy on the dias,

719
01:04:48,140 --> 01:04:51,060
for January 21st, if there's any changes whatsoever.

720
01:04:51,500 --> 01:04:55,080
So, those physical copies were up on the dias for everybody to see,

721
01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:01,460
and to discuss plus they discussed it for four hours and 20 minutes on the 18th,

722
01:05:01,460 --> 01:05:05,280
which there was a recording of and references to in the staff report.

723
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,160
So there was a decent amount.

724
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:14,500
I bet you're all told, we're probably almost eight hours into discussion on the rules

725
01:05:14,500 --> 01:05:17,020
between all of these meetings.

726
01:05:17,700 --> 01:05:24,860
And so I just want people to go away, not thinking that there was only three hours and notice

727
01:05:24,860 --> 01:05:30,160
that three hours of notice wasn't even noticed to the public that three hours was.

728
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:36,600
As a courtesy, I tried to get my edits done and sent to the Council, so they could see.

729
01:05:36,980 --> 01:05:40,120
So I sent it individually, so they could just put eyes on it before the meeting.

730
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:47,700
And then we made the copies and made those copies available here of what happened in the open at the work session on January 18.

731
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:57,840
So, and each time we put it on the agenda and made sure that everybody knew what the subject of the discussion was going to be.

732
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:04,300
Anybody could have come in and watched and as you can tell anybody who signs up to speak gets five minutes

733
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:07,980
Was there another part of your question?

734
01:06:10,090 --> 01:06:12,330
Sorry, yes, there was a part B

735
01:06:14,790 --> 01:06:21,590
So I think really just making sure and asking if you could

736
01:06:22,990 --> 01:06:26,670
Discuss the purpose of the cultural rules like I know when I

737
01:06:26,670 --> 01:06:37,050
I came on to Council, I had an orientation, and they were explained to me as how we operate

738
01:06:37,050 --> 01:06:39,990
amongst ourselves and conduct our business.

739
01:06:40,210 --> 01:06:47,570
So I'm just looking to you to clarify that in regards to, um, sure, thank you.

740
01:06:48,330 --> 01:06:53,550
Um, here's one of the things that I know my predecessor said about this position as he,

741
01:06:53,550 --> 01:06:56,230
Somebody had said to him and he thought it was interesting

742
01:06:56,230 --> 01:06:59,730
is that this position was also known as the explainer

743
01:06:59,730 --> 01:07:00,150
in chief.

744
01:07:00,770 --> 01:07:04,190
So somebody who would actually try to say exactly what's

745
01:07:04,190 --> 01:07:06,150
happening, so I don't mind playing that role whatsoever.

746
01:07:07,770 --> 01:07:11,830
So the public, every elector in the city,

747
01:07:12,290 --> 01:07:14,330
is who gives these guys their power.

748
01:07:15,250 --> 01:07:17,430
And where that comes from is the city charter.

749
01:07:18,110 --> 01:07:21,210
And so the voters actually, in order to even

750
01:07:21,210 --> 01:07:23,930
change the charter you have to go back to the voters every time.

751
01:07:24,750 --> 01:07:29,070
So the charter is where exactly the powers exist for these guys.

752
01:07:29,870 --> 01:07:34,650
And under the charter, it says that the Council must adopt rules

753
01:07:34,650 --> 01:07:37,290
to govern committees, members, and proceedings.

754
01:07:38,250 --> 01:07:40,710
So the Council has to adopt the rules that are going to govern

755
01:07:40,710 --> 01:07:45,450
not only the committees and the people who operate on those committees

756
01:07:45,450 --> 01:07:47,810
in themselves, but then also all the proceedings.

757
01:07:47,810 --> 01:07:53,210
So then you turn to the rules, the rules are then, basically, how they're supposed to treat

758
01:07:53,210 --> 01:07:59,070
each other, how they're supposed to come up with committees and what the rules of decorum

759
01:07:59,070 --> 01:08:01,950
are and if people complain how do we respond.

760
01:08:03,350 --> 01:08:12,010
And so basically try to put forth, you know, a set of guidelines so that we all, or I should

761
01:08:12,010 --> 01:08:16,790
say we all, they all agree, how they're going to handle matters as they come up in proceedings

762
01:08:16,790 --> 01:08:18,930
because a lot can happen in a meeting, right?

763
01:08:19,090 --> 01:08:21,130
Well, 100 people can show up, right?

764
01:08:23,670 --> 01:08:26,070
So these are supposed to be operating guidelines

765
01:08:26,070 --> 01:08:26,910
that they follow.

766
01:08:27,390 --> 01:08:30,230
And what's interesting is, they even

767
01:08:30,230 --> 01:08:33,410
say that notice how her mayor does a nice job of running

768
01:08:33,410 --> 01:08:34,990
mean, she's the president officer.

769
01:08:35,010 --> 01:08:38,010
She runs the meeting and make sure

770
01:08:38,010 --> 01:08:40,110
that these rules are being followed.

771
01:08:40,350 --> 01:08:42,210
And she's very good at knowing those.

772
01:08:42,550 --> 01:08:44,510
And so that's why you saw even earlier

773
01:08:44,510 --> 01:08:46,450
when we were talking about who gets to say what,

774
01:08:46,450 --> 01:08:48,470
or maybe you don't get recognized at the time.

775
01:08:48,730 --> 01:08:52,970
It's because these rules say when you can be recognized by the mayor,

776
01:08:53,190 --> 01:08:55,390
and so you don't interrupt each other, so it's not total chaos.

777
01:08:55,970 --> 01:08:58,350
And then they also reference parliamentary rules,

778
01:08:58,510 --> 01:09:00,450
just in case things get too out of order.

779
01:09:00,790 --> 01:09:05,090
We go back to Roberts rules and say this is how you make a motion,

780
01:09:05,290 --> 01:09:07,870
or this is how you change things or swap things around.

781
01:09:08,250 --> 01:09:12,970
So the rules really exist to make sure that the way they run their meetings

782
01:09:12,970 --> 01:09:19,070
and the way that they appoint to their committees are all understood and followed.

783
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:26,520
So, I'll have a follow-up question, Mr. Lindsey.

784
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:30,500
The council advised President of

785
01:09:30,500 --> 01:09:36,500
position was not in a prior published version of the rules. Is that true? Prior to January

786
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:42,500
18th. So, that was an addition of an entire section. Correct? Yeah, that was an addition

787
01:09:42,500 --> 01:09:44,800
to the 14.3.

788
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:45,660
Yeah, yeah, correct.

789
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:47,540
So that was not prior published.

790
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,520
The rules regarding the community versus engagement

791
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:56,940
community appointments with that was that in a prior version prior to January 18th.

792
01:09:56,980 --> 01:09:58,920
Are you talking the resolution?

793
01:09:59,420 --> 01:10:02,740
No, I'm talking about in the rules section 18.2.

794
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,600
The change to the appointment process for the community

795
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,820
diversity engagement committee to make it like the

796
01:10:09,820 --> 01:10:15,180
on to a quarantined committee was not in a prior version of those rules that have been published

797
01:10:15,180 --> 01:10:16,020
is that correct?

798
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,840
I'm not, I'm not sure certain about that.

799
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,000
I don't want to answer in the affirmative.

800
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:28,520
It wouldn't surprise me, frankly, because there was some discussion, I was ordered to come

801
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:36,380
back in January with changing the CDC rules to match that of the VCC.

802
01:10:36,380 --> 01:10:43,320
And so it's entirely possible that we made that change along the way, so it could have been in January.

803
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:49,480
I will affirm that no, they were not in a prior version, so I do have another copy.

804
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:55,760
So those two were changes made on January 18th and then in the January 21 version.

805
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,520
So neither of one of those were seen by the public prior to.

806
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:20,520
As far as ordering the change regarding the community first engagement committee, it was, it was, it was a, and other business items that I brought up regarding changing the two voting council members to one non-voting liaison and Councilor Christopher added that we also discussed the change from.

807
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:28,360
The point is being, as they are now to match the volunteer-quening committee, my understanding

808
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:32,680
was it would be brought back for conversation, so I was quite surprised to see it in the

809
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:32,960
rules.

810
01:11:33,500 --> 01:11:38,860
But they are in the rules, they were adopted by the council and they are as they stand at

811
01:11:38,860 --> 01:11:39,720
this time.

812
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,180
But neither one of those was in a prior version.

813
01:11:45,700 --> 01:11:47,460
So I just want that for clarification.

814
01:11:47,460 --> 01:11:52,460
All right, anybody else would like to adjust the council at this time?

815
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:54,460
Yes, come on down.

816
01:12:02,670 --> 01:12:02,990
Is this on?

817
01:12:05,730 --> 01:12:07,990
Hi, my name is Ramito Navarro Jr.

818
01:12:07,990 --> 01:12:08,990
I'm a Kaiser resident.

819
01:12:09,310 --> 01:12:11,630
Thank you, Mayor City Councilor City staff,

820
01:12:12,410 --> 01:12:14,590
for allowing me the opportunity to speak tonight.

821
01:12:15,710 --> 01:12:17,230
I didn't have anything written.

822
01:12:17,410 --> 01:12:19,110
I wasn't really prepared to speak,

823
01:12:19,470 --> 01:12:23,390
but I just felt empowered by the Black History Month presentation

824
01:12:23,390 --> 01:12:30,630
presentation that we had today. I mean, it was really awesome and highlighting kind of the historical context of how we've

825
01:12:31,630 --> 01:12:34,310
Disadvantaged communities of color and were specifically

826
01:12:35,070 --> 01:12:37,170
Black people and

827
01:12:37,170 --> 01:12:41,110
And it just reminded me that not 60 days ago

828
01:12:41,470 --> 01:12:43,510
In this same chamber

829
01:12:43,510 --> 01:12:51,050
We deprived a young black woman from being appointed the first black woman on Kaiser City Council

830
01:12:51,810 --> 01:13:00,170
And so I hope that you will reflect on that and especially considering that at the same meeting later on,

831
01:13:00,410 --> 01:13:06,710
we're going to be discussing whether we're going to continue the CDC, the community diversity engagement committee.

832
01:13:06,710 --> 01:13:15,970
It just is very telling that those two things are happening so close together.

833
01:13:17,270 --> 01:13:32,050
And I think that the fact that we had a city counselor tonight that declared herself as the only Latina on the city council when Mayor Clark herself has Latina roots.

834
01:13:32,690 --> 01:13:37,630
And so I just want to highlight something that I had read recently where it talked about

835
01:13:37,630 --> 01:13:41,250
how in the United States we have 65.2 million Latinos.

836
01:13:41,890 --> 01:13:46,430
That means that there's 65.2 million different ways to be Latino.

837
01:13:47,230 --> 01:13:51,530
Nobody is just Latino because of the way that they look, the way that they talk, the language

838
01:13:51,530 --> 01:13:52,310
that they speak.

839
01:13:53,250 --> 01:13:58,070
So I think that that's a testament to why we need to continue this community diversity

840
01:13:58,070 --> 01:14:04,210
engagement committee, and I think it will really be beneficial to counselors to be engaged in

841
01:14:04,210 --> 01:14:08,910
that committee, instead of just assuming that it's not serving a purpose. Thank you.

842
01:14:09,850 --> 01:14:10,730
Thank you very much.

843
01:14:14,480 --> 01:14:16,900
Does there anyone else who would like to adjust the counsel tonight

844
01:14:16,900 --> 01:14:20,160
under public comment? Come on down.

845
01:14:30,440 --> 01:14:33,720
Does your mind your name is due residence for record? Thank you.

846
01:14:34,420 --> 01:14:39,700
Good afternoon. My name is Benita Picasso, and I am a resident of Kaiser. Thank you for giving

847
01:14:39,700 --> 01:14:46,300
the opportunity to come and talk to you. And maybe I am here just again inspired by everyone that

848
01:14:46,300 --> 01:14:55,940
has spoken in front of me or before me. I want to come in and really just again ask for your

849
01:14:55,940 --> 01:14:59,980
consideration when you decide about whether we want it.

850
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,980
Limited A, the CDC, CDC Council, think about the representation. What is that going to do for us, people of color of the city of Kaiser? You are here to represent us, we are a voice, you are a voices, allow us to be represented. It's not about, I think, one of the major concerns that I have heard as being part of one, a part of the council, has been

851
01:15:29,980 --> 01:15:38,180
the work that we do. And if we have done enough to engage the community and I want to ask

852
01:15:38,180 --> 01:15:45,580
the same question back to you. The leaders of this community are you doing enough to engage

853
01:15:45,580 --> 01:15:58,100
the people of color and welcoming them to come into these sessions. It's not just about a

854
01:15:58,100 --> 01:16:05,520
members of it but it is a role for you as the leaders of this main community. What are you doing to

855
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:12,920
welcome them and to make us feel safe to come to these meetings and voice our opinion or hear what is

856
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:20,020
happening within our own city. We are a high percent Latino community 12 percent for the city of Kaiser.

857
01:16:20,740 --> 01:16:25,280
There are, and I'm just a portion of it, there's a lot of other communities, underserved communities,

858
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:30,480
under surpopulation, they're going through the same thing, and I can tell you from personal

859
01:16:30,480 --> 01:16:34,840
experience and from personal feedback, they don't want to attend because they don't feel

860
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:35,260
welcome.

861
01:16:36,660 --> 01:16:38,680
And you represent that.

862
01:16:38,900 --> 01:16:46,300
This is all the leaders you represent that, you make that a welcome environment, or you close

863
01:16:46,300 --> 01:16:47,680
the door for us.

864
01:16:48,340 --> 01:16:54,960
So I encourage you that before we start questioning other committees, question yourself,

865
01:16:54,960 --> 01:17:07,500
What am I doing as a leader to welcome everyone to have a voice and to end to really think about what are we doing for the next generation?

866
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:16,300
What are we doing for the next person that are going to come in behind your shoes? What are we doing as an example for them?

867
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:22,400
We have some youth counselor here. How is that feeling for you?

868
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:38,140
So tap into that, be a leader that welcomes on, that it's diverse, and instead of hiding away and just eliminating diversity, fight for it, because that is your community.

869
01:17:38,900 --> 01:17:51,300
That is who we are, and we want to fight, we want a representation, we want you to fight for us, and if you're not willing, I encourage you to step away so that someone else can take the spot.

870
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:53,720
Thank you.

871
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:03,140
Thank you. Anyone else would like to address the council this evening?

872
01:18:17,990 --> 01:18:23,710
This name is the president. Is it on? It is. Okay. I'm Sherry Lowell's, and I'm the

873
01:18:23,710 --> 01:18:31,410
den Kaiser for 40 years. We're for the Salem Kaiser School District. And I just have a question.

874
01:18:33,370 --> 01:18:39,750
We just had an election for our mayor. And I wanted to know how the person that didn't

875
01:18:39,750 --> 01:19:08,750
ended up being on the council. How does that happen? I don't understand. I mean, explain the process to me how that happened and you couldn't have had so many of color. Instead of appointing her, I don't understand. Nothing against you, or I'm just saying, I don't get it. It seems to me like, and then with all this stuff going on to me, it seems like really sour sour grapes about an election that didn't go the way most people wanted to go. It's all I want to say.

876
01:19:12,590 --> 01:19:22,890
Does anybody want to, I mean, could have staff talk about what the process is for the appointment unless that was a rhetorical question?

877
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:33,880
Okay, so there was a resignation by Robert Hussman, who is Council position number five.

878
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:47,740
And since we were in the middle of an election cycle, the council voted to amend our rules of procedure to change the timeframe for that appointment to occur after the election.

879
01:19:48,980 --> 01:19:57,320
So with that change after the election, we had three people apply for the position of councilor number five.

880
01:19:57,320 --> 01:20:08,980
That was Councillor Christopher, Julie Ann Ray Joy and Tammy Kahn's, all three of them submitted their applications to the city council that we could read in advance.

881
01:20:09,940 --> 01:20:16,000
And then our process is that each of them comes and makes a presentation to the city council and special session.

882
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:24,840
And then after which the council votes to select this successor, it takes four votes to make the appointment.

883
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:36,180
And Ms. Christopher received four votes, four, and was then a small in that evening as per council rules to complete the term for position number five.

884
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,260
That's how the appointment process is done.

885
01:20:40,700 --> 01:20:41,960
Thank you for that question.

886
01:20:42,260 --> 01:20:46,920
And Senator council rules a procedure of people would like to read the details on that.

887
01:20:47,340 --> 01:20:51,340
Is there anyone else who would like to address the council this evening under public comment?

888
01:20:52,460 --> 01:20:53,080
Mr. Lake.

889
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:53,940
Dr. Lake.

890
01:21:02,410 --> 01:21:08,130
Yes sir. Thank you for the chance to speak again. I didn't understand the context of this whole conversation

891
01:21:08,670 --> 01:21:11,210
So I gave you a little bit of academic

892
01:21:12,130 --> 01:21:18,710
Information. I give you a little personal information. I sit in front of you. I'm not 100 years old

893
01:21:19,650 --> 01:21:25,470
My father was a good man with my behind tried to make good man out of me did a pretty good job

894
01:21:26,250 --> 01:21:34,150
My papa was bedridden my whole life. I used to go sit in the bed with him. I don't remember much about him, but he was a kind man. That's what I remember.

895
01:21:35,610 --> 01:21:41,870
My father before him got married in 1870 at 21 years old. We have the paperwork worked.

896
01:21:43,250 --> 01:21:45,310
Which means he was born in slavery.

897
01:21:46,710 --> 01:21:51,030
As property, bought and sold like a cow or horse and a pig.

898
01:21:52,170 --> 01:22:07,610
Between me who said here in front of you, and my ancestor who was bought and sold in this democracy that's lived how many men, two, my father and my grandfather, and I knew both of them in my lifetime.

899
01:22:09,110 --> 01:22:14,530
My ancestor who was enslaved would get killed if they called him reading, so his education was zero.

900
01:22:14,530 --> 01:22:21,470
My papa went to the second grade. He could barely sign his name. He used to sign the ex a lot of times.

901
01:22:22,310 --> 01:22:27,870
My father went to eighth grade in broken segregated schools where the books were the discard books from the white school.

902
01:22:31,580 --> 01:22:36,820
My first four years were spent in the same school that my father went to.

903
01:22:37,740 --> 01:22:43,320
Where our books were the discard books from the white school. That's me.

904
01:22:44,580 --> 01:22:48,860
My son, who was here, and my grandson, who lived here in Kaiser,

905
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:54,140
are the first generation in my family that's had a full and fair

906
01:22:54,140 --> 01:22:57,180
equal educational opportunity in America.

907
01:22:58,380 --> 01:23:01,900
My son, Sean Lake, who lives right down the street.

908
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,720
This is why this history is so important.

909
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,140
We're going to put slavery like this a thousand years ago.

910
01:23:11,480 --> 01:23:19,120
It's not, and so the more knowledge we have, knowledge is power, and we are the diverse society.

911
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:25,860
I appreciate all of the speakers who came up because they gave me a little personal context for this,

912
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:28,700
and this is how we learn about each other.

913
01:23:29,860 --> 01:23:31,940
I got integrated in the schools at fifth grade.

914
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:37,180
First grade all black, second grade all black, third grade all black, fourth grade all black, fifth grade.

915
01:23:37,180 --> 01:23:38,860
I'm in the classroom with all white kids,

916
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:40,880
so I'm the only black kid in the class.

917
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:43,960
Probably the most knucklehead white boy

918
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:47,620
from the white school came in and see what's right next to me.

919
01:23:48,220 --> 01:23:50,220
He looked at me and screwed his nose up.

920
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:52,280
I looked at him and screwed my nose up too,

921
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,080
because I was the same kind of kid he was.

922
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:56,680
We were fighting before that they was over.

923
01:23:58,740 --> 01:24:00,280
And once we got to Pacano out of the street,

924
01:24:00,460 --> 01:24:01,860
guess who became my best friend?

925
01:24:03,460 --> 01:24:04,720
Did he stop being white?

926
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:07,280
Did I stop being black?

927
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:09,600
So what change?

928
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:13,360
I tell the story to look kids because I want them to understand what changed.

929
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:15,740
How much we knew about each other?

930
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,040
And we found out something about each other that was very, very important.

931
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:24,060
We found out we were a lot of like more than we were different.

932
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:27,760
He and I were told the principal's office together, a whole bunch of times.

933
01:24:29,260 --> 01:24:33,540
Had nothing to do with being a white boy or black boy, we were two knuckleheads who would get into stuff.

934
01:24:34,420 --> 01:24:36,960
I go back to Tennessee now. I see that man.

935
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:44,620
He didn't get as tall as me. I don't feel like 5.10. He's got a belly that hangs out of his belt now because he don't work out and drinks bill with his boys all the time.

936
01:24:45,380 --> 01:24:53,160
But when I see him, I see my friend. When he sees me, I will guarantee you he don't see all that some black man. He sees his friend.

937
01:24:54,260 --> 01:25:03,280
And so if you think about this as leaders of a community and I think they request a really appropriate, how are we shaping our community for our children?

938
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:09,660
And for the future, do they have opportunities to learn about each other, to interact with each other?

939
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:11,300
Hopefully, without a fight.

940
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:18,800
So that if we look forward into the future, we want this diversity to be our strength for our community,

941
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,020
not something that divides us.

942
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,840
And I think education is at the center of that work.

943
01:25:25,440 --> 01:25:30,120
What are you doing to educate yourself about our community?

944
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:36,580
What are you doing to help lead and guide other people to be educated about our community?

945
01:25:37,700 --> 01:25:40,380
That's what I want to say. Thank you. Thank you.

946
01:25:44,710 --> 01:25:47,870
Is there anyone else who'd like to adjust the council under public comment tonight?

947
01:25:49,390 --> 01:25:50,710
I knew you have to follow that

948
01:25:52,070 --> 01:25:56,690
All right. Thank you very much. I appreciate it every comments this evening under public comment

949
01:26:00,780 --> 01:26:01,700
at this time

950
01:26:01,700 --> 01:26:03,320
We're going to go to our

951
01:26:03,940 --> 01:26:10,840
time of public hearings, and we do have two on the schedule for this evening. Item 7A is a

952
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:17,160
resolution, a supplemental budget for the Stormwater Fund Workers Compensation. The public hearing

953
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:18,680
is now open, city manager.

954
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:25,400
Not American Council, this is the city manager Tim Woodmouth, both of these public hearing

955
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:25,660
items.

956
01:26:26,300 --> 01:26:26,820
Thank you.

957
01:26:26,980 --> 01:26:27,420
Mr. Wood.

958
01:26:28,740 --> 01:26:30,080
I'm not American City Council,

959
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:36,300
but when, gosh, I got to myself here for a second.

960
01:26:43,290 --> 01:26:45,890
Okay, so tonight we have two supplemental budgets to prepare.

961
01:26:46,570 --> 01:26:51,950
The first one is related to our workers' compensation policy, as you folks know during

962
01:26:51,950 --> 01:26:59,270
budget process when we put our budget together, we record the minimum base and out for our premium.

963
01:27:00,030 --> 01:27:06,210
Then as claims are received, we do a supplemental budget to transfer from contingency to the appropriate

964
01:27:06,210 --> 01:27:14,070
line item to reflect the claims received. Typically, the base premium is roughly around $68 to $70,000

965
01:27:14,070 --> 01:27:21,490
in a given year, and the maximum premium is roughly $260,000. So we have quite a spread where we could

966
01:27:21,490 --> 01:27:28,090
actually receive claims. Most years, we do make out quite well because we're below the

967
01:27:28,090 --> 01:27:32,050
mass from premium maps, so we actually have quite a bit of savings. Unfortunately this year,

968
01:27:32,190 --> 01:27:39,210
we do need to make a budget adjustment and transfer of $27,600 from contingency to personal

969
01:27:39,210 --> 01:27:44,390
services to provide for workers compensation claims. And with that, I would address any questions.

970
01:27:44,390 --> 01:27:45,770
Thank you very much.

971
01:27:45,950 --> 01:27:48,530
Are there any questions of the staff report?

972
01:27:50,210 --> 01:27:55,050
All right, is there anyone here who'd like to address the council on this agenda item?

973
01:27:55,070 --> 01:27:57,090
I have nobody's signed up,

974
01:27:59,290 --> 01:28:01,350
nobody's rushing for the front, okay?

975
01:28:02,330 --> 01:28:05,610
Council, do you need any additional information prior to closing this public hearing?

976
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:11,580
Public hearing is now closed, Council President Star?

977
01:28:12,140 --> 01:28:12,960
I think I'm out of my mind.

978
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:17,600
I move the Kaiser City Council Lead Operations Law Center R2025,

979
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:21,240
Authorization for Supplemental Budget, Stormwater Fund,

980
01:28:21,500 --> 01:28:22,680
Workers' Compensation.

981
01:28:23,660 --> 01:28:23,920
Second.

982
01:28:24,660 --> 01:28:27,160
This has been moved on seconds at the College of City Council of

983
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:30,760
Doppositions R2025, Authorization for Supplemental

984
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,380
Budget, Stormwater Fund, Workers' Compensation.

985
01:28:35,300 --> 01:28:36,240
Any further discussion?

986
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:39,520
All in favor please, signify by saying aye.

987
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:41,940
Opposed signify by saying no.

988
01:28:41,940 --> 01:28:49,280
for an objection. Motion passes unanimously. That takes us to item 7B, which is a resolution

989
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:55,660
supplemental budget. General fund police operations insurance proceeds. The public hearing is now

990
01:28:55,660 --> 01:29:01,540
open. Mr. Wood. Not a mayor city council. The second adjustment tonight is related to our police

991
01:29:01,540 --> 01:29:06,960
department. Unfortunately, we've had a few accidents over the last year or so and we have received

992
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:11,760
insurance proceeds. We would like to appropriate those. Recognize those insurance proceeds

993
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:16,580
and appropriate them to add to our repair and maintenance account to continue the vehicle

994
01:29:16,580 --> 01:29:17,280
fleet.

995
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:24,840
And with that, we'd like to recognize $43,700 insurance proceeds and dedicate that to the

996
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,200
police department for the repair and maintenance line item.

997
01:29:27,580 --> 01:29:29,200
And with that, I'd be free to address any questions.

998
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:29,900
Thank you.

999
01:29:30,100 --> 01:29:30,800
Thank you very much.

1000
01:29:30,940 --> 01:29:33,080
Are there any questions from Mr. Wood?

1001
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:35,840
All right.

1002
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:36,900
Thank you very much.

1003
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:41,940
Is anyone here who would like to address the council under this agenda item?

1004
01:29:41,940 --> 01:29:45,460
I'm this public hearing, I have nobody to sign up,

1005
01:29:48,950 --> 01:29:49,570
all right?

1006
01:29:50,070 --> 01:29:54,710
Seeing none, anything further for Council Fire to close in the public hearing.

1007
01:29:57,390 --> 01:29:59,370
Public hearing is now closed, Council President Star.

1008
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:21,940
It's a move down second at the Kansas City Council adapter, resolution R2025, authorization for supplemental budget, general fund, please, operations insurance proceeds.

1009
01:30:22,900 --> 01:30:27,600
All in favor, please signify the saying aye, aye, aye, aye, any opposed signify the saying

1010
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:31,960
no, no objection, motion passes unanimously.

1011
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:34,480
That concludes our public hearings for this evening.

1012
01:30:34,980 --> 01:30:36,920
We'll now go into administrative action.

1013
01:30:37,660 --> 01:30:42,200
The first item is a request to join the Salem Chamber of Commerce City Manager.

1014
01:30:43,480 --> 01:30:45,520
Madam Mayor Council, Mr. Woodhouse, a second.

1015
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:47,020
Thank you, Mr. Wood.

1016
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:51,920
Thank you, Madam Mayor City Council, at the January 21st meeting the Council requested

1017
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:56,860
the city staff bring back information regarding the city of Kaiser joining the Salem Chamber

1018
01:30:56,860 --> 01:30:57,680
of Commerce.

1019
01:30:58,380 --> 01:31:02,760
The city manager and I met with the chamber and they went over their various membership

1020
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:03,500
options.

1021
01:31:03,900 --> 01:31:07,880
It was recommended that the city of Kaiser based off of the number employees, the size of

1022
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:12,620
our organization that we joined the Salem and China Chamber of Commerce at the convener level.

1023
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:16,220
The convener level is $3,000 per year.

1024
01:31:17,220 --> 01:31:20,040
With that, we have a bunch of different benefits

1025
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:21,380
that the city could enjoy.

1026
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:24,800
Staff, councilor, could attend a monthly forum,

1027
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:27,700
speaker series, lunchons, member pricing,

1028
01:31:27,940 --> 01:31:31,860
and events, those kind of things, specific to our event center,

1029
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:33,460
there is an advertising opportunities

1030
01:31:33,900 --> 01:31:38,000
that we could network and advertise to sale and businesses

1031
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:39,680
in organizations.

1032
01:31:41,100 --> 01:31:44,040
There's also online magazines, subscriptions.

1033
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:49,980
their quarterly 503 magazine and we would be listed in those as well.

1034
01:31:50,440 --> 01:31:53,980
Based off of the meeting that Adam Brown and I had,

1035
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:56,880
the city staff does feel like it would be benefit to the city

1036
01:31:56,880 --> 01:32:00,160
since we are kind of adjacent cities with the shared border.

1037
01:32:00,660 --> 01:32:03,500
So the city staff is recommending that we do move forward

1038
01:32:03,500 --> 01:32:05,840
and join the Salem Chamber of Commerce.

1039
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:07,800
And would that be free to address any questions?

1040
01:32:08,440 --> 01:32:09,100
Thank you.

1041
01:32:10,060 --> 01:32:12,180
I'll ask for questions of the staff report

1042
01:32:12,180 --> 01:32:17,980
And if you have down there, I'd like to invite up Mr. Tom Hoffert, the second director, and Jack

1043
01:32:17,980 --> 01:32:19,340
here, you want to come to?

1044
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:21,440
Okay, Tom's in.

1045
01:32:21,940 --> 01:32:22,220
All right.

1046
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:24,160
Thank you so much for joining us this evening.

1047
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:26,100
It's good to see you.

1048
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:28,060
I'm Adam Ayer, counselor.

1049
01:32:28,300 --> 01:32:29,360
It's great to be here.

1050
01:32:31,780 --> 01:32:40,320
I have learned a little bit more this evening and speaking with my peer at the Kaiser Chamber.

1051
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:46,160
And one thing I just want to share if I may, and this is probably not the presentation you

1052
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:51,880
thought you were going to get on a sales position, chambers of commerce stand for something

1053
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:58,360
completely uncontentious, and that is supporting small businesses, and our organization

1054
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:01,180
is tasked with doing that in our community.

1055
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:08,400
We also proudly partner with the Kaiser Chamber and share many members that are the same

1056
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:14,580
have a wonderful working relationship, I consider the executive director with Kaiser to be a

1057
01:33:14,580 --> 01:33:23,140
peer and somebody that I enjoy partnering with. I also hold the role of President of the Oregon

1058
01:33:23,140 --> 01:33:29,580
State Chamber. And so for me, I am looking at chambers of commerce in a very wide lens. We'll

1059
01:33:29,580 --> 01:33:36,840
certainly first serving the community of Salem. We have a lot that we feel we could offer,

1060
01:33:37,460 --> 01:33:42,780
municipality or government agencies, we have a number that she's to be members of our organization,

1061
01:33:43,060 --> 01:33:48,920
but I would suggest, of course, we want you to be supporting those in your community first,

1062
01:33:49,480 --> 01:33:55,180
and I would not be a big fan of us being a contentious item for your consideration.

1063
01:33:55,480 --> 01:34:04,110
We are open literally for everybody who is in business to be a member that we invite governments to be a member as well.

1064
01:34:06,670 --> 01:34:21,410
But we would want that done so when I figured a partnership and helping, but I will say with this commitment, whether the city of Kaiser chooses to be a chamber member or not, we are going to be your partner regardless.

1065
01:34:22,130 --> 01:34:33,310
We are interacting with your city council members and members of your community each day, we appreciate our Kaiser businesses that choose to be members of our chamber.

1066
01:34:33,750 --> 01:34:39,250
But I am very quick when somebody, a business from Kaiser is interested in tapping in our organization.

1067
01:34:39,530 --> 01:34:43,650
I'm very quick to start with a comment of, are you a member of the Kaiser Chamber?

1068
01:34:44,370 --> 01:34:48,070
Because we think that's very important that you are supporting local.

1069
01:34:48,650 --> 01:34:50,810
So I don't want to provide a lot of additional color.

1070
01:34:51,050 --> 01:34:54,690
I'd be happy to answer questions, but know that we are open to everybody in that business.

1071
01:34:55,350 --> 01:34:58,730
Choice of whether you join the Salem Chamber or not should not be a contentious one

1072
01:34:58,730 --> 01:35:05,110
And I would appreciate the professional courtesy that it is not in any way political.

1073
01:35:06,310 --> 01:35:14,250
I see some giggles, but I just wish to say that on record, we are not divisive organization

1074
01:35:14,250 --> 01:35:17,510
and I'd like to continue to know that.

1075
01:35:27,870 --> 01:35:28,710
Thank you very much.

1076
01:35:28,710 --> 01:35:30,690
to surprise, I have two questions.

1077
01:35:31,270 --> 01:35:34,110
Membership here is it, is it?

1078
01:35:35,190 --> 01:35:37,810
So let's say we join tomorrow.

1079
01:35:38,370 --> 01:35:40,630
Is our renewal due then next February

1080
01:35:40,630 --> 01:35:46,150
or do you renew for everybody the same time every year?

1081
01:35:46,550 --> 01:35:47,190
Yeah, a great question.

1082
01:35:47,450 --> 01:35:48,790
No, it is done on a monthly.

1083
01:35:49,630 --> 01:35:53,250
So we have a membership in the chambers

1084
01:35:53,250 --> 01:35:54,310
when you're in duration.

1085
01:35:55,110 --> 01:35:58,590
And then we rebuild on the month that they joins.

1086
01:35:58,590 --> 01:36:05,690
So if you were to join tomorrow, you would be effectively a member from February of 2025 through

1087
01:36:05,690 --> 01:36:13,850
January 31st of 2026 with a minor pro-rated for the days that you've missed in February.

1088
01:36:14,990 --> 01:36:21,130
But yes, we do invoice and our membership is yearly and it's based on the joint date of the

1089
01:36:21,130 --> 01:36:22,050
individual or company.

1090
01:36:22,430 --> 01:36:23,130
Thank you.

1091
01:36:23,350 --> 01:36:24,790
And I have a follow-up.

1092
01:36:25,250 --> 01:36:26,090
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1093
01:36:26,090 --> 01:36:49,330
So the benefits that were listed and reviewed in the staff report is, is there a, do we get so many tickets to, with that level that, the 3000 convener level, do you get so many tickets per month or is it a cost above the 3000 level?

1094
01:36:49,330 --> 01:36:53,950
Yeah, there are things like all the things that you have that were listed in here.

1095
01:36:54,310 --> 01:36:58,450
We do some bundling as you would expect a non-profit to do. So with your investment,

1096
01:36:58,690 --> 01:37:02,590
you have some complimentary things that come with that. But our signature events,

1097
01:37:02,630 --> 01:37:07,870
our key fundraisers would be above and beyond that. One of the members' benefits that is

1098
01:37:07,870 --> 01:37:13,570
most appealing for somebody joining at the convener level is our executive leadership council,

1099
01:37:13,570 --> 01:37:32,330
which is a very, it's a quarterly event that we bring in elected officials from the State City County all over to provide direct access to our business members can share their voice and have those conversations back and forth.

1100
01:37:32,950 --> 01:37:38,950
And then there are some benefits and tickets, as you mentioned, for a number of events, including the monthly forum lunch.

1101
01:37:39,690 --> 01:37:41,890
Thank you. Thank you, follow up for Tim.

1102
01:37:42,110 --> 01:37:43,850
Yes, Mr. Wood. Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1103
01:37:44,230 --> 01:37:45,090
Mr. Wood.

1104
01:37:48,270 --> 01:37:51,570
So, that's a big ticket, dollar amount.

1105
01:37:52,590 --> 01:37:58,530
Where are we at in terms of starting our budgeting process for next year,

1106
01:37:58,690 --> 01:38:01,350
which would take effect on July 1st?

1107
01:38:03,830 --> 01:38:06,810
I am in the heat of battle. Council President Start.

1108
01:38:07,590 --> 01:38:10,170
So, yes, the budgeting process has kicked off.

1109
01:38:10,170 --> 01:38:14,450
We're getting things ready, well, we have our long-range planning meeting in three weeks,

1110
01:38:14,530 --> 01:38:20,230
we'll have a fairly good mid-year update, but yeah, the budgeting process is on its way.

1111
01:38:20,630 --> 01:38:26,730
It's specific to this year, we do have a few dollars left in our dues and subscription

1112
01:38:26,730 --> 01:38:30,390
association membership kind of line item.

1113
01:38:30,550 --> 01:38:32,370
I think we have a couple thousand there.

1114
01:38:32,630 --> 01:38:37,310
We'll have to do some moving around if we want to move forward with this in the near future.

1115
01:38:37,310 --> 01:38:38,470
So, it's

1116
01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:42,820
one more, and then we're going to keep going down long.

1117
01:38:42,980 --> 01:38:49,860
Thank you. So, I just, I have to think that this might be something that might be

1118
01:38:49,860 --> 01:38:55,360
sentenced for staff to put into a budget request or something that would come and be built

1119
01:38:55,360 --> 01:39:00,800
in or recommended into the budget since we're, what, very emerging for me, June 5 months

1120
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:07,020
away, and we're getting ready to start the process. Is there a process for staff to put

1121
01:39:07,020 --> 01:39:11,200
their own budget request that would then come to the budget committee to consider?

1122
01:39:11,940 --> 01:39:12,260
Absolutely.

1123
01:39:13,140 --> 01:39:13,160
Okay.

1124
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:13,580
Thank you.

1125
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:14,320
Thank you.

1126
01:39:14,540 --> 01:39:15,040
Councilor Christopher.

1127
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:16,760
Thank you, Mayor.

1128
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:19,480
I think that was the question I was going to ask.

1129
01:39:20,220 --> 01:39:22,820
There's no reason that we have to do that in February.

1130
01:39:23,140 --> 01:39:26,640
We could make that part of the budget process and it could come before the budget committee.

1131
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:29,440
And it would just go in with our regular next year budget.

1132
01:39:31,380 --> 01:39:32,140
That is correct, yes.

1133
01:39:32,380 --> 01:39:35,580
Then we'd have citizen input on that too.

1134
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:38,300
Thank you.

1135
01:39:38,440 --> 01:39:39,120
Councillor Jren?

1136
01:39:40,660 --> 01:39:40,800
Okay.

1137
01:39:41,140 --> 01:39:42,260
You got your answer question.

1138
01:39:42,500 --> 01:39:43,320
Question answered.

1139
01:39:43,380 --> 01:39:44,100
Answer question.

1140
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:45,460
Something like that.

1141
01:39:46,540 --> 01:39:47,780
Mayor Clark, if I may.

1142
01:39:48,100 --> 01:39:49,340
I just want to provide some clarity.

1143
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:52,600
We were requested to make this presentation.

1144
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:57,900
And I want to be real clear that my staff did not come to City Council and say,

1145
01:39:58,220 --> 01:40:00,480
Hey, we know everybody's in budget crisis.

1146
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:03,020
Why don't we give $3,000 to our organization?

1147
01:40:03,020 --> 01:40:05,280
So I really need to be clear there.

1148
01:40:05,660 --> 01:40:09,100
It was requested that we bring information forward to you

1149
01:40:09,100 --> 01:40:10,700
and really reiterate again.

1150
01:40:10,700 --> 01:40:12,880
We will be working in partnership folks,

1151
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:15,980
whether you are a member of the Salem Chamber or not.

1152
01:40:16,700 --> 01:40:19,100
We do have, in some sense, a city of Salem,

1153
01:40:19,140 --> 01:40:23,000
as members in the light, but I just need that to be really clear

1154
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:26,040
that this impetus was asked of us as an organization

1155
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:27,960
and not in reverse.

1156
01:40:28,820 --> 01:40:35,280
And before I go to Councilor Kohler, I know that number of us do go to or have an invited

1157
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:43,300
to Salem Chamber events and the joint economic environment in which both of our cities

1158
01:40:43,300 --> 01:40:49,400
exist, there's, it's not like we're separated, maybe like a woodburn with their own chamber,

1159
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:55,900
but there's a lot of interplay between the two cities and all the businesses, and that's

1160
01:40:55,900 --> 01:41:01,480
that question came up and talking with Ms. Roche found out that Kaiser had been a member

1161
01:41:01,480 --> 01:41:03,460
a very, very long time ago.

1162
01:41:03,860 --> 01:41:06,740
I was actually shocked that you weren't a member, and that's okay.

1163
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:12,620
That just shows my commitment to you will always have an open door with us, whether you're

1164
01:41:12,620 --> 01:41:13,060
a member or not.

1165
01:41:13,300 --> 01:41:18,240
That's how that's conversation started and asked the question, why not and what if?

1166
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:23,800
Exploring those opportunities for, again, collaboration when many of us have those connections

1167
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:28,860
of already in play. So that's where that started. I'm going to go to Councillor Colour. He

1168
01:41:28,860 --> 01:41:35,500
has been standing up and then Councillor Cross. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Tom, thanks for coming

1169
01:41:35,500 --> 01:41:39,460
tonight. Is Salem a member of the Kaiser Chamber Commerce?

1170
01:41:41,620 --> 01:41:43,760
The city is Salem. I am now familiar

1171
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:49,140
with that. That would have to be a question for your executive record of the Kaiser Chamber.

1172
01:41:49,140 --> 01:41:52,160
Thank you.

1173
01:41:53,900 --> 01:41:58,100
So, Ms. Palardo, the Executive Director of the Kaiser Chamber of Commerce is here, and

1174
01:41:58,100 --> 01:42:02,680
Her answer is, no, the City of Salem is not a member of the Kaiser Chamber of Commerce.

1175
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:04,500
Follow up.

1176
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:05,300
Thank you.

1177
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:11,460
So, the $3,000 is based on the number of employees we have as a city.

1178
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:13,000
Is that what I understand?

1179
01:42:13,980 --> 01:42:14,640
That's correct.

1180
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:19,500
Our membership structures are based on employee count on the impact of the business.

1181
01:42:19,740 --> 01:42:21,660
The businesses have within our communities.

1182
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:24,260
And so that is a standardized function.

1183
01:42:25,060 --> 01:42:31,400
And I would encourage that that's very reasonable to have it based on employee count due to the size of businesses.

1184
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:33,820
And full transparency.

1185
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:35,640
Most of our members are for profit.

1186
01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:40,780
And really looking for an ad because the organization or conductivity organization.

1187
01:42:40,780 --> 01:42:56,300
So I have many times have been requested by non-profits and government agencies, can we have a special rate or something and I'm pretty proud of our organization that we really stay consistent that based on size.

1188
01:42:56,580 --> 01:43:02,000
Those are our indicators for kind of that price for admission.

1189
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:02,860
So

1190
01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:11,640
I understand that as an associate with the Kaiser Chamber, there are some things that were

1191
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:15,100
invited to any way as part of it, is that true?

1192
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:22,200
Our organization is open for both members and non-members and the vast majority of our programming.

1193
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:27,940
The only exception to that is our governmental affairs and business advocacy committee.

1194
01:43:28,540 --> 01:43:32,540
Every member receives one vote per business.

1195
01:43:32,540 --> 01:43:42,980
So, you could send 10 people to one of those meetings, but you would have one vote in equity for all the members, so there's equal weight.

1196
01:43:46,070 --> 01:43:46,290
Good.

1197
01:43:47,050 --> 01:43:47,590
Councillor Cross.

1198
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:51,240
I don't think I really have a question.

1199
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:52,420
Just comment.

1200
01:43:52,680 --> 01:44:00,920
There is, as we've learned even with the payroll tax, there is a great number of citizens of residents that drive from Kaiser to Salem to work there.

1201
01:44:00,940 --> 01:44:04,660
I think the Salem Chamber and Kaiser Chamber do a phenomenal job.

1202
01:44:04,660 --> 01:44:10,760
I'm looking out there. I see Angela. I think she's a vice president of membership in Jackie and Misty and Larry Jackson.

1203
01:44:11,380 --> 01:44:14,400
So we are very intertwined and I appreciate that collaboration.

1204
01:44:15,480 --> 01:44:16,320
As do we?

1205
01:44:16,480 --> 01:44:16,980
All right.

1206
01:44:17,380 --> 01:44:23,660
Well, thank you so much for being here and for answering our questions and for the partnership that

1207
01:44:23,660 --> 01:44:27,160
And the support that Steve Kaiser, you know,

1208
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:28,440
continues to show our business community.

1209
01:44:28,780 --> 01:44:33,100
It's very important for us to support us.

1210
01:44:33,220 --> 01:44:34,720
Small businesses are local businesses,

1211
01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:37,160
as they both grow here and thrive here.

1212
01:44:37,460 --> 01:44:38,420
So thank you for your work.

1213
01:44:38,740 --> 01:44:41,080
Well, you appreciate this support you do for our local businesses.

1214
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:43,040
Thank you.

1215
01:44:43,300 --> 01:44:43,860
Anything further?

1216
01:44:44,620 --> 01:44:45,640
All right, thank you.

1217
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:52,600
So at this time, we have a couple of decision points

1218
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:56,580
we could either join now or look to do something

1219
01:44:56,580 --> 01:44:59,520
is part of the budget process, what is the pleasure of the council?

1220
01:45:02,540 --> 01:45:03,960
Council of Christopher?

1221
01:45:06,170 --> 01:45:13,030
If the Council agrees, I'd rather wait till the budget process, because it's, you're getting started on it now, right, Tim?

1222
01:45:14,090 --> 01:45:15,550
I don't know if that's a council, that's correct, yes.

1223
01:45:15,690 --> 01:45:23,390
And so, I guess what I would ask is could that be added to the list of staff recommended?

1224
01:45:27,690 --> 01:45:33,770
It couldn't

1225
01:45:33,770 --> 01:45:38,110
There's another seven citizens that would join the City Council

1226
01:45:38,110 --> 01:45:39,190
in making that decision.

1227
01:45:39,510 --> 01:45:40,350
I'm not opposed.

1228
01:45:40,850 --> 01:45:45,330
I just think that there's no, I didn't hear a urgent need

1229
01:45:45,330 --> 01:45:46,450
to do it today.

1230
01:45:46,870 --> 01:45:50,070
So I prefer to do it inside the budget process

1231
01:45:50,070 --> 01:45:51,370
of council degrees.

1232
01:45:52,650 --> 01:45:53,410
Council across?

1233
01:45:53,650 --> 01:45:54,530
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1234
01:45:55,350 --> 01:45:58,270
Since we do have those dollars in the dues and memberships,

1235
01:45:58,590 --> 01:46:01,450
I don't see a problem with moving forward.

1236
01:46:02,350 --> 01:46:02,830
Thank you.

1237
01:46:04,590 --> 01:46:13,110
So, we've got a couple of, while we put a motion on the table, Delvert, Liberate, and then take a vote on which direction we want to go.

1238
01:46:13,670 --> 01:46:16,790
Council President Charles, would you really put one of those on the table?

1239
01:46:18,450 --> 01:46:27,470
Would you, would like me, may I, may I suggest, I would like to entertain a motion that the kind of city council will join the Salem's Chamber of Commerce?

1240
01:46:28,770 --> 01:46:30,230
So, would anybody like to make that motion?

1241
01:46:32,740 --> 01:46:34,560
I just, I'll make the motion for discussion.

1242
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:37,660
Thank you. It's been moved. I'm looking for a second.

1243
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:43,240
Second. It's moved in second. It's because the city council joined the Salem Chamber of Commerce.

1244
01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:45,760
Yes,

1245
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:54,120
no, I said I'll make the motion. So we can discuss. I'm sorry. Thank you. Thank you.

1246
01:46:54,920 --> 01:47:05,200
So the motion has been made in seconded discussion. Thank you, Madam Mayor. So how much Tim do you say we have left in the in the do's line item?

1247
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:12,220
I think we have about 2000, so I'll have to move some money around if you folks decide to move forward.

1248
01:47:12,900 --> 01:47:14,220
Yeah, I'm not sure that's fair.

1249
01:47:16,440 --> 01:47:23,420
I mean, I want us to become a member, but I don't want us to like go over our budget item for the year

1250
01:47:23,420 --> 01:47:25,980
if we can budget it for the next fiscal year.

1251
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:29,160
So I think it's an important thing to do that.

1252
01:47:29,160 --> 01:47:35,780
So maybe if all the questions I'll go to Councilor Cross, what is the other line item you would like to take that from?

1253
01:47:36,820 --> 01:47:37,300
Possibly.

1254
01:47:38,020 --> 01:47:45,120
I would have to look somewhere within the administrative services fund probably supplies or something like that.

1255
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:46,220
Or TOT?

1256
01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:55,220
Because I hope we get our Kaiser now, we, we, our members of the Kaiser Chamber, and are we not?

1257
01:47:56,340 --> 01:48:04,740
We've got burdened members in this standing, there's be like 1,000 out of that, so that'll be one possibility there.

1258
01:48:05,460 --> 01:48:11,500
But again, I would leave it to you. I'm not going to micromanage that.

1259
01:48:12,140 --> 01:48:23,620
I want to make sure there's plenty of reserve in the TOT for the ongoing conversations with the efforts with our Kaiser Chamber, so I don't want to undercut that.

1260
01:48:23,620 --> 01:48:28,840
Councillor Crosst. Thank you, Madam Mayor. That actually was my question because I believe with the last

1261
01:48:28,840 --> 01:48:32,240
conversation we had that there was plenty left over even with our commitment to Kaiser

1262
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:38,360
Chamber and the TOT. Not plenty, but enough for that thousand. I see looking at me, Tim.

1263
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:47,120
Just fine, 20. You're planning on my plan, you're a different. We do have, we do have

1264
01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:52,070
contingency dollars available within the TOT that, I mean if need be, we can, we can

1265
01:48:52,070 --> 01:48:56,850
allocate it. So. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

1266
01:48:57,250 --> 01:48:58,050
Kelsey, was this already?

1267
01:48:58,710 --> 01:49:05,230
No, I just, I, we have, we don't have the money in the budgeted by an item.

1268
01:49:05,250 --> 01:49:09,730
I recognize you have contingency, but I would like to see us.

1269
01:49:11,550 --> 01:49:18,270
Do so as part of the budget process, which is why I asked that question and where we were in the budgeting process.

1270
01:49:18,270 --> 01:49:25,490
But I do think it's a good idea to work together, but I think we should wait for the budget process.

1271
01:49:26,230 --> 01:49:27,250
Thank you, Councilor Christopher.

1272
01:49:29,170 --> 01:49:29,310
Okay.

1273
01:49:30,230 --> 01:49:32,030
Councilor Dren, no comment.

1274
01:49:32,990 --> 01:49:36,470
Anything for the one council to the motion, Councilor Colour?

1275
01:49:37,010 --> 01:49:37,970
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1276
01:49:38,010 --> 01:49:39,130
I'm against joining.

1277
01:49:40,290 --> 01:49:40,590
Okay.

1278
01:49:42,250 --> 01:49:42,890
Thank you, much.

1279
01:49:44,290 --> 01:49:44,730
I'm sorry.

1280
01:49:46,290 --> 01:49:46,830
Do you want to repeat?

1281
01:49:48,370 --> 01:49:57,230
Councilor minimum at minimum I would like to put it in the budget part of the budget process, but I'm against joining now.

1282
01:49:58,630 --> 01:49:59,010
All right.

1283
01:49:59,170 --> 01:49:59,590
Thank you.

1284
01:50:00,190 --> 01:50:01,250
Ready for the question?

1285
01:50:01,970 --> 01:50:02,470
All in favor.

1286
01:50:02,750 --> 01:50:04,390
Please see the Father saying aye.

1287
01:50:05,490 --> 01:50:06,910
The Father saying no.

1288
01:50:09,450 --> 01:50:11,090
Motion passes the motion fails.

1289
01:50:11,090 --> 01:50:23,090
And so, the direction I'm hearing from Council is that by consensus to put this into the budget process for the 2026-2027 budget year.

1290
01:50:23,670 --> 01:50:26,190
Is there anybody who opposes that?

1291
01:50:26,310 --> 01:50:28,350
There's no opposition, Mr. Wood.

1292
01:50:29,130 --> 01:50:31,590
Madam Merrick, we do the 2526 budget.

1293
01:50:31,850 --> 01:50:34,550
Yeah, 2526 is probably better.

1294
01:50:34,910 --> 01:50:35,570
Okay, thank you.

1295
01:50:35,630 --> 01:50:36,290
I'll give you the hearing.

1296
01:50:36,890 --> 01:50:37,050
Yeah.

1297
01:50:38,210 --> 01:50:39,590
Thank you for the clarification.

1298
01:50:39,590 --> 01:50:46,270
and so for the 25, 26 budget year and have that be included in that budget theory process.

1299
01:50:47,370 --> 01:50:48,830
There is no objection from Council.

1300
01:50:49,630 --> 01:50:49,730
All right.

1301
01:50:49,850 --> 01:50:51,110
Thank you very much.

1302
01:50:52,410 --> 01:50:52,670
All right.

1303
01:50:52,830 --> 01:50:58,270
Let's go to item A to B, which is event center fee waiver, Kaiser Chamber of Commerce State

1304
01:50:58,270 --> 01:50:59,670
of the city.

1305
01:50:59,890 --> 01:51:00,850
Ms. Seenander?

1306
01:51:03,290 --> 01:51:04,390
Thank you, Madam Mary.

1307
01:51:04,990 --> 01:51:07,530
Ms. Ehm, Council this is with the Citizenship Manager.

1308
01:51:08,970 --> 01:51:09,070
What?

1309
01:51:09,430 --> 01:51:09,770
What?

1310
01:51:09,770 --> 01:51:14,210
Madam Mayor of City Council, the Kaiser Chamber of Commerce has requested a waiver of the

1311
01:51:14,210 --> 01:51:20,090
U.S.P. for the annual state of the city lunch form on March 11, 2025. The letter requesting

1312
01:51:20,090 --> 01:51:25,110
the fee waiver is attached, the registration fee for the event is $15 for chamber members

1313
01:51:25,110 --> 01:51:32,450
and $20 for non-numbers. The chamber is requested access to IRSB on March 11 from 10am to 2pm.

1314
01:51:33,110 --> 01:51:39,270
The facility U.S.P. for the time period is $375, and that does include the 25% discount for

1315
01:51:39,270 --> 01:51:44,790
as your case five or one seeing on profit organizations, in addition, the Chamber has requested

1316
01:51:44,790 --> 01:51:48,130
use of the stage and AV equipment for an additional $250.

1317
01:51:49,290 --> 01:51:54,610
City staff believe that this meets the requirements outlined in the ordinance and resolutions

1318
01:51:54,610 --> 01:51:58,610
and is recommending that the council approve the request waiver.

1319
01:51:59,550 --> 01:52:00,450
With that, if there's any questions.

1320
01:52:01,230 --> 01:52:01,910
Thank you very much.

1321
01:52:01,990 --> 01:52:05,590
Are there any questions on the staff report or the proposal in the packet?

1322
01:52:05,590 --> 01:52:11,270
All right, you're a nun, Council President Star, we'll put you a motion on the table, please.

1323
01:52:11,730 --> 01:52:15,770
I move the Kaiser City Council approve the requested waiver of the Events Center U.S.

1324
01:52:15,770 --> 01:52:24,510
fee of $650, but charged the refundable security deposit of $750 for the Kaiser Chamber of Commerce State

1325
01:52:24,510 --> 01:52:27,510
of the City event on March 11, 2025.

1326
01:52:28,350 --> 01:52:33,530
This has been moved and seconded has the City Council approved the requested waiver of the

1327
01:52:33,530 --> 01:52:39,830
event center, use fee of $50, but charge the refundable security deposit of $750,

1328
01:52:40,810 --> 01:52:45,410
but the Kaiser Chamber of Commerce State of the City event on March 11th, 2025.

1329
01:52:46,350 --> 01:52:52,010
Any discussions? All in favour? Was that a mochi I

1330
01:52:55,020 --> 01:52:58,760
would love to? Would you like to come up and tell us a little about this?

1331
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:04,580
I want to acknowledge and invite up the Executive Director, Corey Flardo.

1332
01:53:07,120 --> 01:53:09,340
And thank you, Elsa Dram.

1333
01:53:13,070 --> 01:53:14,330
Hey, I am Corey Flardo.

1334
01:53:14,650 --> 01:53:18,290
I live in Kaiser and I am Executive Director at the Kaiser Chamber of Commerce.

1335
01:53:20,010 --> 01:53:23,750
So thank you for hosting this event once again to want to tell a little bit about it for

1336
01:53:23,750 --> 01:53:26,330
people who may like to know more.

1337
01:53:26,590 --> 01:53:32,650
Yeah, this is an event that we partner with the City and you, Mayor Clark, to come

1338
01:53:32,650 --> 01:53:36,210
and share information about the state of our city.

1339
01:53:36,690 --> 01:53:40,530
So often times Mayor Clark will share just the happenings

1340
01:53:41,130 --> 01:53:44,730
that have, excuse me, that we've gone through it in the year.

1341
01:53:46,630 --> 01:53:50,990
And then her plans to lead the city into the next year.

1342
01:53:51,450 --> 01:53:54,010
We would love to have, you know, everybody there.

1343
01:53:54,170 --> 01:53:58,230
If you can come, council and staff and then people in the audience,

1344
01:53:58,610 --> 01:54:00,530
I think we should show up and support our city.

1345
01:54:00,530 --> 01:54:03,770
in, like I've heard many times tonight, all worked together.

1346
01:54:05,810 --> 01:54:06,570
Any questions?

1347
01:54:07,090 --> 01:54:07,570
Happy to.

1348
01:54:07,710 --> 01:54:08,470
Happy to answer.

1349
01:54:10,230 --> 01:54:11,210
Well, thank you.

1350
01:54:11,370 --> 01:54:15,770
And thank you to the Chamber of Commerce for hosting this year and year over year.

1351
01:54:15,890 --> 01:54:20,570
I think this is an important opportunity to each year to kind of do a recap since so much

1352
01:54:20,570 --> 01:54:27,310
happens in our community every year to give that kind of summary and kind of a vision forward

1353
01:54:27,310 --> 01:54:31,910
is a real great opportunity, and I appreciate the opportunity to do that.

1354
01:54:32,390 --> 01:54:34,490
Absolutely. Councillor Christopher.

1355
01:54:37,490 --> 01:54:42,190
Coring where is Kaiser Chamber Greeders tomorrow?

1356
01:54:44,110 --> 01:54:45,570
I love you. Nice and prompt.

1357
01:54:47,430 --> 01:54:54,610
We will be at the City of Kaiser Event Center, hearing from the Lily Vaughn about the great

1358
01:54:54,610 --> 01:55:00,290
happenings at the city events center, which we are so grateful for. You guys have blessed us

1359
01:55:00,290 --> 01:55:08,370
year over year with the use of the center, and we get to do our wonderful events that benefit you guys

1360
01:55:08,370 --> 01:55:16,110
and us, and just a fun note, you might see this one over here on May 2nd if you're a lady dressed up

1361
01:55:16,550 --> 01:55:22,730
with our theme, Greece Lightning, for the Perci action. So we're also really grateful for that.

1362
01:55:22,730 --> 01:55:25,170
I couldn't attend last month because I was,

1363
01:55:25,170 --> 01:55:26,250
I think it was out of town.

1364
01:55:27,410 --> 01:55:30,970
So I appreciate pushing that fee waiver forward.

1365
01:55:31,790 --> 01:55:34,130
And like I've said before, we're happy to pay deposit

1366
01:55:34,130 --> 01:55:37,450
and then they additional use of items in the event center.

1367
01:55:37,630 --> 01:55:39,750
We want to make sure that it's well taken care of

1368
01:55:39,750 --> 01:55:43,930
and that we can leave it better than we've left it.

1369
01:55:44,290 --> 01:55:46,930
Better than we arrived when we used it,

1370
01:55:46,990 --> 01:55:47,910
if that makes sense.

1371
01:55:49,190 --> 01:55:50,890
Oh, I haven't followed all of it.

1372
01:55:53,030 --> 01:56:09,990
Tell us about, we're members of the Kaiser Chamber, that's right, and do we have a comparable membership to what is being proposed by the Salem Council and that's what I want to know, because you charge a lot less money.

1373
01:56:10,330 --> 01:56:16,430
That's right, so currently the city of Kaiser sits at our mission level membership, which is our second tier member.

1374
01:56:16,430 --> 01:56:30,910
Our lowest space is 330, mission is 599 in our executive level is 1199 and we you guys are currently at mission level.

1375
01:56:31,750 --> 01:56:33,790
So you pay 599 annually.

1376
01:56:35,190 --> 01:56:36,650
Is that comparable to what?

1377
01:56:36,650 --> 01:56:58,630
So in terms of benefits and so forth, I do not know, we could ask our city staff to look at the comparable services that we are subscribing for, and to make sure we're at the level that's appropriate for not only our business size, but also the appropriate interaction with the community.

1378
01:56:59,490 --> 01:57:00,830
So this is a good question to ask.

1379
01:57:00,830 --> 01:57:09,050
Thank you for the question. Thank you. So Mr. Wood, I think you heard that that I request for additional information.

1380
01:57:09,690 --> 01:57:17,130
I know you're a hip-deep in the budget, but if you could add that to, you know, something for this process.

1381
01:57:17,750 --> 01:57:19,010
Thank you. Councillor Crosse.

1382
01:57:19,550 --> 01:57:25,670
Thank you, Madam Eric. So what I'm hearing just to clarify is that we can just like we're putting that line item for budget discussion.

1383
01:57:26,190 --> 01:57:29,690
We can put in the higher level of kind of their chamber for budget discussion.

1384
01:57:34,170 --> 01:57:40,710
Councillor, cross. Yeah, well we can look into it. I'm not sure whether there's

1385
01:57:41,310 --> 01:57:48,450
is based on buying a certain level or by it like it is with Salem. It's by the number

1386
01:57:48,450 --> 01:57:54,690
employees have. We have a flat rate for businesses to choose which membership they

1387
01:57:54,690 --> 01:58:00,610
want to come in on. The difference is how we provide services. So there's

1388
01:58:00,610 --> 01:58:07,490
different management of your membership with the money that you give us to pay for your

1389
01:58:07,490 --> 01:58:12,350
membership. We do, you know, if you're going to pay a stop dollar, we're going to do the

1390
01:58:12,350 --> 01:58:16,810
things for you, because that's what you're paying us to do. If you're going to be a business

1391
01:58:16,810 --> 01:58:21,110
member, then we are going to walk alongside you and encourage you to do all the things, but

1392
01:58:21,110 --> 01:58:27,750
teach you how to do it. So with that in all jam, we can absolutely bring that back to you. Thank

1393
01:58:27,750 --> 01:58:28,810
Thank you.

1394
01:58:28,930 --> 01:58:29,750
Thank you very much.

1395
01:58:30,010 --> 01:58:30,410
There you go.

1396
01:58:30,790 --> 01:58:31,230
Thank you.

1397
01:58:31,510 --> 01:58:31,610
All right.

1398
01:58:31,710 --> 01:58:32,130
Thank you.

1399
01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:34,720
Okay.

1400
01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:35,500
We do have a motion.

1401
01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:36,360
The second on the table.

1402
01:58:36,940 --> 01:58:37,700
Oh, Councillor Colour.

1403
01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:39,880
Just a real quick question.

1404
01:58:41,180 --> 01:58:47,280
So, if we were doing the same type of level for Salem, as we're doing Kaiser, shouldn't we

1405
01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:49,400
do the $1100 membership?

1406
01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:55,400
That's what we just, so we just kind of, we've just funded that to our staff to bring

1407
01:58:55,400 --> 01:58:57,680
back in the budgetary process.

1408
01:58:57,680 --> 01:59:01,660
and then we're going to get back to the motion on the table.

1409
01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:05,220
So yes and put in call for the question.

1410
01:59:06,500 --> 01:59:07,740
I'll inform you, please think about this thing.

1411
01:59:08,220 --> 01:59:09,360
Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.

1412
01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:10,680
And he posted the file by saying no.

1413
01:59:11,820 --> 01:59:14,760
Reading no objection. Motion passes unanimously.

1414
01:59:16,020 --> 01:59:21,320
I've had a request that we take a recess for a bio-struct break.

1415
01:59:21,540 --> 01:59:24,920
So we will reconvene at 815. We are in recess.

1416
02:12:26,640 --> 02:12:32,760
Officity Council is now back in session. We are going to go to item 8C, which is to consider the

1417
02:12:32,760 --> 02:12:38,020
population request from Casa of Marion County recognizing foster care awareness month. City manager.

1418
02:12:38,880 --> 02:12:42,460
Thank you, Madam Marion Council. So you recorded this as a sign.

1419
02:12:43,480 --> 02:12:44,520
Was this it?

1420
02:12:45,240 --> 02:12:49,720
Mayor and City Council. On Monday, January 27th, we received a request for a

1421
02:12:50,440 --> 02:12:55,100
from Vanessa Nordike, the executive director of Casa of Marion County.

1422
02:12:55,600 --> 02:13:00,060
She's looking to recognize foster care awareness month in May of 2025.

1423
02:13:00,500 --> 02:13:06,680
She's asked if she could come and present and have the proclamation read at a meeting in April or May.

1424
02:13:07,200 --> 02:13:11,460
And with the new council rules of procedure, it's time to now to look at this.

1425
02:13:12,520 --> 02:13:13,980
All right, thank you very much.

1426
02:13:14,660 --> 02:13:19,700
Any questions on the request for the proclamation on foster care awareness month?

1427
02:13:19,700 --> 02:13:22,280
What else goes in the start?

1428
02:13:23,360 --> 02:13:29,220
Ms. Bissette, have we gotten anything on child abuse prevention month, which is in April?

1429
02:13:31,760 --> 02:13:34,920
Have you gotten a request for that yet, or is it on the approved list?

1430
02:13:35,060 --> 02:13:36,060
I don't know. Sorry.

1431
02:13:36,460 --> 02:13:37,480
It is full-knight recovery.

1432
02:13:37,580 --> 02:13:40,620
It is not on the approved list. I have not seen the request to come in yet.

1433
02:13:40,820 --> 02:13:40,920
Okay.

1434
02:13:40,920 --> 02:13:43,000
I just like to make sure we keep that in mind.

1435
02:13:44,180 --> 02:13:45,240
It's an annual.

1436
02:13:46,060 --> 02:13:47,460
And so, yes, it's one that we do annually.

1437
02:13:48,280 --> 02:13:54,220
So yes, this one that here to four I have issued annually, yes, and that's an April.

1438
02:13:54,880 --> 02:13:54,900
Correct.

1439
02:13:56,680 --> 02:14:01,500
And generally we invite, right, like we have in the past.

1440
02:14:02,320 --> 02:14:09,040
So that would be one that would be issued, and I believe it was on the list that you included here in the packet if I remember correctly.

1441
02:14:09,160 --> 02:14:11,500
Yes, we're looking at April one for that.

1442
02:14:11,860 --> 02:14:15,260
for, yes, right here to your question, time in one

1443
02:14:15,260 --> 02:14:17,640
proclamation schedule for April 1, city council meeting

1444
02:14:17,640 --> 02:14:19,080
challenges prevention months.

1445
02:14:19,260 --> 02:14:23,540
So that would be a yes, and then there are openings for one

1446
02:14:23,540 --> 02:14:25,220
on April 21st.

1447
02:14:25,320 --> 02:14:27,100
We do have three scheduled for May 6.

1448
02:14:27,140 --> 02:14:31,640
So we're going to have to spread that out between May 6

1449
02:14:31,640 --> 02:14:33,980
to May 19th.

1450
02:14:34,100 --> 02:14:35,520
With that any further questions?

1451
02:14:36,860 --> 02:14:39,260
OK, council president, star, would you be willing

1452
02:14:39,260 --> 02:14:40,140
to put emotional on the table?

1453
02:14:40,140 --> 02:14:50,980
I moved to approve the Proclamation Request from Casa of Marine County Recognizing Foster Care Awareness Month at the City Council meeting to be determined.

1454
02:14:52,920 --> 02:14:52,960
Second.

1455
02:14:53,440 --> 02:14:57,760
It's been moved and seconded that the Kansas City Council approved, oops, there we go.

1456
02:14:58,140 --> 02:14:59,960
The Reclamation Request from Casa of America.

1457
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:07,500
Any recognizing foster care, awareness month, a meeting to be determined, what I would like to do is

1458
02:15:07,500 --> 02:15:14,560
let that for April 21st, because we already have on April 1st and already may 6th, and this

1459
02:15:14,560 --> 02:15:20,960
would be getting in preparation for the May events. So I would request that to be, we insert the

1460
02:15:20,960 --> 02:15:27,600
day April 21st. Does the move are accept? Accept? Does the second accept? Yes. Thank you very much.

1461
02:15:27,600 --> 02:15:29,080
the motion is presented.

1462
02:15:30,660 --> 02:15:31,540
Anything further?

1463
02:15:32,680 --> 02:15:34,200
All in favor of signify was saying aye.

1464
02:15:35,160 --> 02:15:35,220
Aye.

1465
02:15:35,400 --> 02:15:35,880
Opposing of aye.

1466
02:15:35,880 --> 02:15:36,440
The signify was saying no.

1467
02:15:37,380 --> 02:15:38,080
Your no objection.

1468
02:15:38,640 --> 02:15:39,800
Motion passes unanimously.

1469
02:15:40,240 --> 02:15:42,080
This is all worth you on the.

1470
02:15:42,080 --> 02:15:42,240
On the.

1471
02:15:42,260 --> 02:15:42,480
On the language.

1472
02:15:42,820 --> 02:15:43,960
Thank you.

1473
02:15:44,240 --> 02:15:48,020
That takes us to item eight in D, which is resolution claiming an exemption.

1474
02:15:48,620 --> 02:15:54,560
exception under the Kaiser Park snatching program for Gold Star Memorial Monument, Mr. Brown.

1475
02:15:54,840 --> 02:15:55,420
See you, Nedger.

1476
02:15:59,680 --> 02:16:01,740
Public Works Director Bill, lawyer?

1477
02:16:02,160 --> 02:16:03,120
I'll take this one.

1478
02:16:03,320 --> 02:16:04,060
Mr. Lawyer.

1479
02:16:04,580 --> 02:16:05,700
Thank you, Madam Mayor. Council.

1480
02:16:06,840 --> 02:16:11,440
The Kaiser Gold Star Families Memorial Monument Committee is received approval and support

1481
02:16:11,440 --> 02:16:15,350
from the City Council to place a Gold Star Memorial in Ryan J. Hill Memorial Park.

1482
02:16:16,200 --> 02:16:19,560
The committee is raised to date about $10,000 in funds for the project.

1483
02:16:19,560 --> 02:16:24,960
The committee's goals to have the memorial completed by September 28, 2025, which is the

1484
02:16:24,960 --> 02:16:30,560
Gold Star of Mothers and Family Memorial Day, which has begun preparing the site for the

1485
02:16:30,560 --> 02:16:34,760
Morton Memorial to be installed, the fundraising efforts continued by the committee to reach

1486
02:16:34,760 --> 02:16:35,640
their goal.

1487
02:16:36,500 --> 02:16:40,400
The Kaiser Parks and Recreation Advisory Board approved a motion to approve the $10,000

1488
02:16:40,400 --> 02:16:46,140
for the matching grant and request Council's exception to the policy to pay in advance

1489
02:16:46,140 --> 02:16:47,440
of completion of the project.

1490
02:16:48,040 --> 02:16:52,480
The Park Sports grant program is a reimbursement program.

1491
02:16:53,120 --> 02:16:57,660
And so they're asking council for an exception to that program to allow for this

1492
02:16:57,660 --> 02:17:02,580
funding to be released to meet the goal of having the order placed in April so they

1493
02:17:02,580 --> 02:17:05,920
can meet their September 28th completion goal.

1494
02:17:06,000 --> 02:17:11,360
Funds are available in the 2425 City Council adopted Park Services Fund, specifically

1495
02:17:11,360 --> 02:17:13,500
the grant program line item.

1496
02:17:14,260 --> 02:17:21,160
Approval of this exception, policy exception will allow the money to be ordered in time to meet the goal of completion in September that mentioned.

1497
02:17:21,900 --> 02:17:25,140
City Council approval is needed to allow this policy exception.

1498
02:17:25,820 --> 02:17:35,340
Staff recommends Council adopt the top but the attached resolution of putting a policy exception to the parks grant program to allow funds to be provided for the Gold Star World project.

1499
02:17:35,720 --> 02:17:36,580
I'd be happy to answer your questions.

1500
02:17:37,360 --> 02:17:39,820
Thank you very much, other questions from Mr. Lawyer.

1501
02:17:41,130 --> 02:17:47,050
I do have one and that's on the overall budget. I had a conversation with Mr. Brown earlier

1502
02:17:47,050 --> 02:17:54,930
today. So, the original estimate for the overall project budget is about $150,000.

1503
02:17:55,190 --> 02:17:55,850
Is that correct?

1504
02:17:56,830 --> 02:17:57,410
That's correct.

1505
02:17:58,350 --> 02:18:04,190
Okay. So the monument itself is about 60,000 of the total of 150.

1506
02:18:04,790 --> 02:18:11,370
And then there are other elements that will need to be purchased in this for this for

1507
02:18:11,370 --> 02:18:13,530
to complete the site is that correct?

1508
02:18:13,530 --> 02:18:14,970
That's correct, about a mirror.

1509
02:18:16,290 --> 02:18:20,570
So additional fundraising will be done for those elements as well as the monument itself.

1510
02:18:22,230 --> 02:18:22,490
All right.

1511
02:18:22,610 --> 02:18:23,090
Thank you.

1512
02:18:23,250 --> 02:18:25,170
Anything else?

1513
02:18:26,130 --> 02:18:28,270
Council President Star, would you be willing to put motion on the table?

1514
02:18:28,470 --> 02:18:28,910
Absolutely.

1515
02:18:28,910 --> 02:18:34,870
I move the Kaiser City Council at Dr. Solution R2025 claiming an exception under the Kaiser

1516
02:18:34,870 --> 02:18:38,970
Parks Matching Grant Program for the Cold Star Memorial Monument.

1517
02:18:39,150 --> 02:18:40,130
Please second.

1518
02:18:40,510 --> 02:18:44,850
It's the move down second at the Decaiser City Council at Dr. Solution R2025.

1519
02:18:45,350 --> 02:18:51,310
Claiming an exception under the Kaiser Parks Matching Grant Program for the Cold Star Memorial Monument.

1520
02:18:51,950 --> 02:18:53,090
Any discussion?

1521
02:18:54,550 --> 02:18:56,150
All in favor, signify by saying aye.

1522
02:18:56,150 --> 02:19:00,030
I. I. Opposing if I was saying no, you're no

1523
02:19:00,030 --> 02:19:04,970
objection, motion passes unanimously. That takes us to item 8E, which is

1524
02:19:04,970 --> 02:19:07,850
resolution, authorizing applying director to sign the

1525
02:19:07,850 --> 02:19:11,190
environmental agreement for a city of Kaiser Transportation System Plan

1526
02:19:11,190 --> 02:19:13,850
Community Engagement. So you imagine.

1527
02:19:14,610 --> 02:19:17,510
Madam Mayor Council, a plan director, Shane Miffon has a sign.

1528
02:19:17,930 --> 02:19:18,490
Just with him.

1529
02:19:19,230 --> 02:19:26,130
Thank you, Madam Mayor Council. Yes, so before you hear is an IGA and an

1530
02:19:26,130 --> 02:19:33,150
know, transportation system plan update has been a long kind of, it's been on that board

1531
02:19:33,150 --> 02:19:41,390
for a few years as a goal. And this project is a little bit in that same C-FEC basket,

1532
02:19:41,490 --> 02:19:46,270
the climate friendly and equitable communities, basket of legislation that's kind of

1533
02:19:46,270 --> 02:19:50,590
been working its way through and I've cried about all the different projects that I'm trying

1534
02:19:50,590 --> 02:19:55,830
to juggle and keep my head straight on. But we've talked a bit about the process we've been

1535
02:19:55,830 --> 02:20:01,950
going through and hit one of the silver linings of all of this work is that the state has

1536
02:20:01,950 --> 02:20:07,250
kind of changed how they're prioritizing and funding transportation system plans.

1537
02:20:08,390 --> 02:20:15,890
So ODOT, the Oregon Department Transportation, is doing a lot of the technical work and

1538
02:20:15,890 --> 02:20:21,650
will be funding the kind of the engineering side of our transportation system plan update.

1539
02:20:21,650 --> 02:20:24,290
And I actually haven't told anybody this.

1540
02:20:24,610 --> 02:20:31,630
I just got an email Friday that the mini RFP that ODOT has getting out just got posted.

1541
02:20:32,170 --> 02:20:41,350
So it's like happening, hopefully it's happening when we get through a process and end up with a contract and figure out how all of that works.

1542
02:20:42,950 --> 02:20:51,330
But when ODOT looked at a community like Kaiser and what the overall project cost we're going to look like for RTSP

1543
02:20:51,330 --> 02:20:54,530
It's a really big project. It takes a long time.

1544
02:20:55,650 --> 02:20:57,790
They're a little concerned about overall budget.

1545
02:20:58,390 --> 02:21:01,370
So the Department of Land Conservation and Development came alongside and said,

1546
02:21:01,750 --> 02:21:08,470
hey, we have some additional money that we think might be helpful to set up your kind of

1547
02:21:08,470 --> 02:21:13,650
engagement plan and this little piece that's called a major equity analysis that's

1548
02:21:13,650 --> 02:21:17,070
a new requirement that came out of C-fact that's in OAR-60.

1549
02:21:17,070 --> 02:21:25,590
So this IGA is specifically for us, the city, to be able to work with the LCD and receive

1550
02:21:25,590 --> 02:21:31,270
consultant support in coming up with an overall engagement plan for the TSP project, as

1551
02:21:31,270 --> 02:21:37,510
well as doing this major equity analysis memo that's required by OAR660.

1552
02:21:38,030 --> 02:21:44,910
So that's what this is for, which, as I said, this is like a, it's the TSP kind of becoming

1553
02:21:44,910 --> 02:21:51,210
reality. We're going to get to update that. So that's good news. With any of that, I'd be happy to

1554
02:21:51,210 --> 02:21:53,010
try to answer any questions you might have.

1555
02:21:53,370 --> 02:22:00,210
All right. Thank you very much. I have a question. I'll open it to Council. So this is also

1556
02:22:00,210 --> 02:22:05,830
all part and parcel with the update we're doing concurrently with the kind of friendly equitable

1557
02:22:05,830 --> 02:22:13,930
communities. Effectually known as CFAC. It's also, well, this also meet our goal on requirements of public

1558
02:22:13,930 --> 02:22:18,830
and involvement in general, or will that be additional work with the TSP?

1559
02:22:19,210 --> 02:22:26,230
Yeah, so the consultant work that we're getting, it is to develop an overall community engagement plan

1560
02:22:26,230 --> 02:22:34,890
for the whole project of updating RTSP, but also looking through inequity lens as required by

1561
02:22:34,890 --> 02:22:44,050
L-A-R-660, and a client from the medical community's rules, so it's a yes and so it's

1562
02:22:44,050 --> 02:22:51,170
not doing the work of having all the meetings and the open houses and how that's going

1563
02:22:51,170 --> 02:22:56,910
to happen in the midst of the TSP. This is coming with that way and that we'll give that

1564
02:22:56,910 --> 02:23:02,950
framework for how we do it. It does. This is your framework for actually doing that work

1565
02:23:02,950 --> 02:23:07,390
when we get into it. Okay, no, that may sense. Any questions from Council?

1566
02:23:09,390 --> 02:23:13,390
All right. Council President George, please put a motion on the table.

1567
02:23:14,570 --> 02:23:20,450
I move the Kaiser City Council, a doctor and solution R2025 authorizing planning director

1568
02:23:20,450 --> 02:23:25,750
to sign an intergovernmental agreement for the City of Kaiser Transportation System Plan

1569
02:23:25,750 --> 02:23:27,190
Community Engagement.

1570
02:23:27,770 --> 02:23:28,110
Second.

1571
02:23:28,110 --> 02:23:33,770
It's my move to the second objective to cause the City Council adopt resolution R-2025, authorizing

1572
02:23:33,770 --> 02:23:37,630
planning, director to sign intergovernmental agreement for a city of Kaiser Transportation

1573
02:23:37,630 --> 02:23:39,690
System Plan Community Engagement.

1574
02:23:41,650 --> 02:23:42,210
Discussion?

1575
02:23:42,770 --> 02:23:44,110
All in favor, sigma by sigma by sigma.

1576
02:23:45,030 --> 02:23:46,490
I, I, opposing sigma by sigma.

1577
02:23:47,770 --> 02:23:47,870
I say no.

1578
02:23:47,870 --> 02:23:50,470
Here in objection, motion passes unanimously.

1579
02:23:51,390 --> 02:23:54,850
Item 8f, which is a resolution, dissolving the personal policy committee.

1580
02:23:54,850 --> 02:24:01,550
We've peeling resolutions R-29-1994 and R-2023-3421.

1581
02:24:01,910 --> 02:24:02,290
See you, Manager.

1582
02:24:03,350 --> 02:24:03,670
Madam Chair.

1583
02:24:03,670 --> 02:24:04,030
Madam Council.

1584
02:24:04,790 --> 02:24:05,730
Thank you, Mr. Resource Director.

1585
02:24:06,070 --> 02:24:06,610
Gary Cleaver.

1586
02:24:07,510 --> 02:24:09,010
Thank you, Mr. Cleaver.

1587
02:24:10,990 --> 02:24:17,070
Mayor City Council the resolution before you resulted from your January 21st, 2025 Council meeting

1588
02:24:17,070 --> 02:24:22,590
in which you discussed Sunsetting Personnel Policy Committee, which is composed of an entirely

1589
02:24:22,590 --> 02:24:23,590
council members.

1590
02:24:23,590 --> 02:24:27,410
and ultimately deciding by consensus to sunset the committee.

1591
02:24:29,540 --> 02:24:32,820
From a timing perspective, there is one item that the

1592
02:24:32,820 --> 02:24:36,080
person on policy committee would have reviewed in that is the

1593
02:24:36,080 --> 02:24:38,760
revisions to the person on policy manual, the

1594
02:24:38,760 --> 02:24:43,100
person on policy manual, that the committee would have put

1595
02:24:43,100 --> 02:24:45,880
eyes on, but ultimately the council would always have to

1596
02:24:45,880 --> 02:24:48,380
approve those specific policies as a whole.

1597
02:24:49,360 --> 02:24:52,400
And with that staff recommends the Kaiser City Council adopt

1598
02:24:52,400 --> 02:24:53,480
the resolution.

1599
02:24:55,320 --> 02:24:56,460
Thank you very much.

1600
02:24:56,640 --> 02:25:02,080
Are there any questions on the staff report or the resolution

1601
02:25:02,080 --> 02:25:03,400
before us?

1602
02:25:04,200 --> 02:25:05,180
Council President Star.

1603
02:25:05,700 --> 02:25:07,060
I move the Secretary of State Council,

1604
02:25:07,200 --> 02:25:09,300
a doctor's resolution R2025,

1605
02:25:09,380 --> 02:25:11,840
dissolving the personal policy committee.

1606
02:25:12,200 --> 02:25:18,140
It's been moved on seconded that the

1607
02:25:18,140 --> 02:25:25,160
personal policy committee. In discussion. So I want to thank everybody who has worked on this over the years.

1608
02:25:25,680 --> 02:25:41,780
It has had various iterations in which it's really done some security work and concurrent with our policies and practices when the workers completed, which is all the committee. So there we go.

1609
02:25:41,780 --> 02:25:44,520
All of favor please signify by saying aye.

1610
02:25:44,520 --> 02:25:45,040
Aye.

1611
02:25:45,680 --> 02:25:47,640
Opposing by by saying no.

1612
02:25:48,100 --> 02:25:48,920
Here in no objection.

1613
02:25:50,160 --> 02:25:51,400
Motion passes unanimously.

1614
02:25:52,640 --> 02:25:54,580
Item 8G as a resolution.

1615
02:25:55,480 --> 02:25:57,240
Amendment the Kaiser Public Arts Commission

1616
02:25:57,240 --> 02:26:01,960
K-PAC Amendmenting Resolution R-2015-2552.

1617
02:26:02,360 --> 02:26:05,920
Repeal of Resolution R-2020-359.

1618
02:26:06,200 --> 02:26:06,700
So the manager.

1619
02:26:07,760 --> 02:26:12,880
Mayor Council, this is an item that the City Council asked the City Attorney to bring back

1620
02:26:12,880 --> 02:26:13,360
the discussion.

1621
02:26:13,940 --> 02:26:14,700
Thank you, Mr. Lindsey.

1622
02:26:15,140 --> 02:26:16,100
Thank you.

1623
02:26:16,180 --> 02:26:17,620
Madam Mayor and Council.

1624
02:26:18,500 --> 02:26:24,820
This is a situation where the Council asked this to return in front of them for February 3rd.

1625
02:26:25,480 --> 02:26:34,900
This was coming out of December 2024, conversations where City Council was asking staff to look at committees

1626
02:26:34,900 --> 02:26:38,340
and try to make them more consistent by removing

1627
02:26:38,340 --> 02:26:42,900
council voting positions, where it wasn't required by statute.

1628
02:26:43,620 --> 02:26:47,300
And so the idea was to have liaisons that don't

1629
02:26:47,300 --> 02:26:49,320
overly influence the committees.

1630
02:26:50,320 --> 02:26:51,600
So that was the ask.

1631
02:26:51,700 --> 02:26:55,440
This was identified as one such committee that has a voting member.

1632
02:26:55,760 --> 02:26:58,320
It was established in 2014.

1633
02:27:00,080 --> 02:27:02,520
And then renamed in 2015.

1634
02:27:02,520 --> 02:27:08,380
and at that time membership consisted of seven voting members and one of those was a Kaiser

1635
02:27:08,380 --> 02:27:14,620
City counselor. So really what would have to happen here is, once this resolution, if

1636
02:27:14,620 --> 02:27:21,780
you pass it, it goes into effect, the council member becomes a non-voting member so then they

1637
02:27:21,780 --> 02:27:32,340
would have six voting members that would have to then appoint another voting member if they

1638
02:27:32,340 --> 02:27:34,160
volunteer-coording committee process.

1639
02:27:34,780 --> 02:27:36,700
All right. Thank you very much. Any questions?

1640
02:27:38,680 --> 02:27:39,640
Come on.

1641
02:27:39,640 --> 02:27:39,880
Sorry.

1642
02:27:40,980 --> 02:27:42,120
You got me doing it.

1643
02:27:42,860 --> 02:27:42,880
Okay.

1644
02:27:46,020 --> 02:27:48,880
If it's deliberation, it'll be after we put the motion on the table.

1645
02:27:49,100 --> 02:27:50,740
If it's not then...

1646
02:27:50,740 --> 02:27:53,520
Mom, we do it part of the deliberation.

1647
02:27:55,740 --> 02:27:57,520
Well, I don't know.

1648
02:27:58,160 --> 02:28:09,280
So, what I would ask is, every two years we go through and determine, we go through and look at all of the committees and make any changes we feel should be made.

1649
02:28:09,860 --> 02:28:18,400
So, what I would ask is, can this resolution be put our next, our next work session, which is next Monday, is doing exactly that.

1650
02:28:18,540 --> 02:28:22,640
It's going to be short term, goals, long term goal planning and review of the committees.

1651
02:28:22,640 --> 02:28:29,220
So, while I don't know if there's going to be any additional changes to the K-PAC resolution,

1652
02:28:30,100 --> 02:28:33,480
I would hate to pass a resolution and then pass it again.

1653
02:28:33,800 --> 02:28:43,720
So, what I'm asking is could this resolution be postponed until the second city council meeting on whatever day that is?

1654
02:28:43,800 --> 02:28:44,820
It's February 10.

1655
02:28:45,000 --> 02:28:45,360
Thank you.

1656
02:28:45,560 --> 02:28:46,040
No, February 10.

1657
02:28:46,240 --> 02:28:49,000
No, February 10 is the worst session in February 18.

1658
02:28:52,940 --> 02:28:58,960
It is a possibility if that is the decision of the council at this point.

1659
02:28:59,260 --> 02:29:03,580
We do have the resolution ready to go to make this change which is something that has been

1660
02:29:03,580 --> 02:29:14,540
requested and is a change in that very specific to how we are doing our city council committees.

1661
02:29:14,540 --> 02:29:23,540
So I mean, it's up to the council if you want to pass it tonight or not, and we can put a motion on the table to debate it and I'll vote it up or down.

1662
02:29:24,680 --> 02:29:26,340
It's depending on your on your preference.

1663
02:29:27,400 --> 02:29:28,120
Councilor Christopher.

1664
02:29:28,420 --> 02:29:36,840
I put a motion on the table that tables it until the next city council meeting on the 18th.

1665
02:29:37,260 --> 02:29:38,860
I'll see if there's a second.

1666
02:29:39,080 --> 02:29:39,220
Sorry.

1667
02:29:39,800 --> 02:29:50,980
It's my move to the second tip that the Kansas City Council table, this agenda item for the next council meeting on February 18th, 2025.

1668
02:29:52,220 --> 02:29:52,660
Discussion.

1669
02:29:53,860 --> 02:29:59,960
Personally, I'd rather just get this part done tonight, so because we know we want to get it done, we've been asking for it to get done if we need to.

1670
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:24,140
To revisit something else in the, um, in the appendix A, we will have that conversation, but this is something that we can get out of the way and like are the committees and commissions make sure they're correct with the processes that we would like to have in place. So I will not be supporting putting this off, just like to get her done. Councilor, council President Star.

1671
02:30:24,140 --> 02:30:25,140
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1672
02:30:25,420 --> 02:30:27,400
This is a clarifying question.

1673
02:30:28,520 --> 02:30:32,140
Is this going to change a denim A?

1674
02:30:34,620 --> 02:30:38,120
That's where, so then, if we change anything next Monday,

1675
02:30:38,280 --> 02:30:40,520
we'd have to come back and change it again.

1676
02:30:41,180 --> 02:30:44,000
Right, is there anything that, in looking at that

1677
02:30:44,000 --> 02:30:45,700
and Councillor Cruz for you?

1678
02:30:45,880 --> 02:30:47,960
I don't mean to bypass you, Councillor President Star.

1679
02:30:48,160 --> 02:30:50,800
But in that committee, are there things

1680
02:30:50,800 --> 02:30:52,800
that you are anticipating bringing forward

1681
02:30:52,800 --> 02:30:53,720
for that conversation?

1682
02:30:54,780 --> 02:30:56,000
No, Mayor, I'm not.

1683
02:30:56,320 --> 02:31:00,920
But I don't know what a committee review consists of.

1684
02:31:01,080 --> 02:31:02,620
So I don't know what to anticipate.

1685
02:31:03,000 --> 02:31:05,440
That's why I said, if we can put it off two weeks,

1686
02:31:06,640 --> 02:31:08,320
I end up not that's fine, too.

1687
02:31:09,740 --> 02:31:12,420
So just in general, a committee review is looking

1688
02:31:12,420 --> 02:31:15,340
at is a committee still relevant current

1689
02:31:15,340 --> 02:31:18,440
and is the description of the activities

1690
02:31:18,440 --> 02:31:21,700
that committee still reflect what we need done

1691
02:31:21,700 --> 02:31:22,660
are what they are doing.

1692
02:31:23,280 --> 02:31:25,880
As generally what we go off over in my recollection.

1693
02:31:27,780 --> 02:31:29,200
So, any further discussion?

1694
02:31:30,760 --> 02:31:31,740
Can we restate the motion?

1695
02:31:32,360 --> 02:31:34,800
This specific, can you restate the motion, please?

1696
02:31:35,640 --> 02:31:37,580
Councilor Christopher moved to table

1697
02:31:37,580 --> 02:31:40,140
and died until the next city council meeting

1698
02:31:40,140 --> 02:31:41,860
on February 18, 2020, 25.

1699
02:31:42,780 --> 02:31:43,300
Thank you.

1700
02:31:44,200 --> 02:31:44,900
Anything further?

1701
02:31:45,640 --> 02:31:47,400
All in favor, seeing the public saying aye.

1702
02:31:48,320 --> 02:31:48,700
Opposing.

1703
02:31:48,920 --> 02:31:49,480
Opposing, no.

1704
02:31:49,900 --> 02:31:50,420
No.

1705
02:31:50,420 --> 02:31:55,140
motion passes with the nose are Clark and Parsons.

1706
02:31:56,160 --> 02:31:59,660
Okay, this will be table two February 18th.

1707
02:32:02,220 --> 02:32:04,580
Okay, item eight, eight, discussion,

1708
02:32:04,820 --> 02:32:07,380
item potential postponement of the Community Diversity

1709
02:32:07,380 --> 02:32:09,220
Engagement Committee, C-deck meetings.

1710
02:32:10,060 --> 02:32:18,470
And this is, this was brought by Councillor Colour.

1711
02:32:20,870 --> 02:32:21,730
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1712
02:32:23,050 --> 02:32:35,570
I've been, I've probably attended more community diversity engagement committee meetings than most of the members of the committee over the life of the committee.

1713
02:32:35,790 --> 02:32:38,970
They usually don't stay for the whole thing, but I'm usually there.

1714
02:32:40,610 --> 02:32:51,050
And one of the questions that somebody asked me the other day, what have been the accomplishments of the committee for that, since we put it together

1715
02:32:51,050 --> 02:32:58,850
was at 2021 or something like that and what are the accomplishments been and I really

1716
02:32:58,850 --> 02:33:06,530
couldn't put them down on paper and then another person said well what was the purpose

1717
02:33:06,530 --> 02:33:12,430
of this committee to begin with? The purpose of the committee was to help bring everyone

1718
02:33:13,170 --> 02:33:20,590
together in the community. For example my neighborhood I have a diverse neighborhood and we

1719
02:33:20,590 --> 02:33:25,590
get along, we all accomplished all kinds of things when we work together. I don't see that

1720
02:33:25,590 --> 02:33:31,550
really happening in this committee right now. And so I just think we need to have a discussion

1721
02:33:31,550 --> 02:33:36,950
on what the goals are, what they're really doing, and does that match what the committee was

1722
02:33:36,950 --> 02:33:44,870
put together for. And then the second is we need to take a look and see because it looks like right

1723
02:33:44,870 --> 02:33:51,130
Now it's turned into a DEI committee, which would be in violation of some of the executive

1724
02:33:51,130 --> 02:33:54,170
orders that have recently happened in the Kiblus Funding.

1725
02:33:54,430 --> 02:33:59,470
So I just think we need to discuss that, revive, evaluate where it is, and where we need

1726
02:33:59,470 --> 02:34:00,210
to go in the future.

1727
02:34:04,000 --> 02:34:05,040
Thank you.

1728
02:34:05,260 --> 02:34:06,620
Mr. Brown, I'm sorry.

1729
02:34:06,800 --> 02:34:07,280
That's okay.

1730
02:34:07,280 --> 02:34:07,560
Okay.

1731
02:34:08,020 --> 02:34:14,440
I want to follow up on a comment made about, because this is the second reference to, you know,

1732
02:34:14,440 --> 02:34:22,320
general actions regarding DEI, the existence of a community diversity engagement committee

1733
02:34:22,320 --> 02:34:31,420
is their anticipation that this is in, that we put our any of our federal funding that we receive, and I don't think it's much at risk.

1734
02:34:34,370 --> 02:34:42,690
I think that's, I think that's, to really, to really say whether that would or not, I mean they're

1735
02:34:43,950 --> 02:34:53,050
having a meeting at the car. This week, to discuss that, and I know we've received

1736
02:34:54,030 --> 02:34:59,570
circulars from the legal work in cities that would talk about that. I haven't heard any

1737
02:35:00,310 --> 02:35:05,630
thing that would we would directly be impacted by, but I think it's to where we

1738
02:35:05,630 --> 02:35:11,090
that taught it predict that. Thank you, Councillor Cross. Thank you, Madam Mayor. I

1739
02:35:11,090 --> 02:35:15,510
actually reached out to Mr. Lindsay this week on that and the information I

1740
02:35:15,510 --> 02:35:19,790
thought from him is, and he can elaborate, is the initial executive orders directly

1741
02:35:19,790 --> 02:35:23,610
impact federal agencies and another is aimed at private section DIA activities.

1742
02:35:24,370 --> 02:35:27,210
Within these, the federal government is also going to start to look at federal

1743
02:35:27,210 --> 02:35:32,970
grantees that spent federal money on DEI activities or programs, because of the new administration

1744
02:35:32,970 --> 02:35:37,410
view that DEI programs activities could violate civil rights and might eventually have federal

1745
02:35:37,410 --> 02:35:38,350
and grantee impacts.

1746
02:35:38,850 --> 02:35:43,930
It would be advisable to distance from that DEI commit.

1747
02:35:44,210 --> 02:35:46,850
So the CDAC is slated to meet on Thursday, February 6.

1748
02:35:47,390 --> 02:35:50,090
It's going to be revised and re-evaluated in February.

1749
02:35:50,910 --> 02:35:56,570
If tasks go our mission or potentially going to change for the committee, it seems more efficient

1750
02:35:56,570 --> 02:35:58,450
cancel the meeting on the 6th?

1751
02:36:00,610 --> 02:36:01,650
Joe, would you like to elaborate?

1752
02:36:03,970 --> 02:36:06,990
My answer to that was of the

1753
02:36:06,990 --> 02:36:14,510
existing executive orders that came down, which I guess another huge question mark is whether

1754
02:36:14,510 --> 02:36:21,270
or not additional executive orders because some get put in place and then they get resented

1755
02:36:21,270 --> 02:36:27,490
or they get challenged and then they get put on hold. Up the two that still remain, one effect

1756
02:36:27,490 --> 02:36:37,030
just specifically federal agencies and the other one, only private institutions, but then within

1757
02:36:37,030 --> 02:36:44,570
the federal agency one, there was some direction that they were starting to do research

1758
02:36:44,570 --> 02:36:52,230
into all levels of government that might be receiving grantees, federal grantees, so anybody

1759
02:36:53,090 --> 02:36:58,970
who's granted money from the federal government as a way of sort of starting to figure out

1760
02:36:58,970 --> 02:37:06,230
who has DEI programs. So Mr. Brown is exactly right in that there's so many more questions

1761
02:37:06,230 --> 02:37:12,190
than answers. And so I was trying to answer your question about what, you know, what

1762
02:37:12,190 --> 02:37:19,590
currently exists, but we could have many more executive orders tomorrow, not that to the mayor's

1763
02:37:19,590 --> 02:37:25,450
point, from other meetings, is why totally speculate about what isn't and go with what

1764
02:37:25,450 --> 02:37:25,790
is.

1765
02:37:25,870 --> 02:37:35,680
So I understand that side of things too, but the notion is that right now there is a potential

1766
02:37:35,680 --> 02:37:46,680
push to try to stray away from, I don't think necessarily the mission, but the nomenclature,

1767
02:37:46,680 --> 02:37:56,620
which is the VEI itself versus actual inclusion or actually trying to go for a diversity

1768
02:37:56,620 --> 02:38:04,840
or actually trying to, you know, have equitable outcomes. I mean, you guys just saw a state grant right now for CPAC,

1769
02:38:05,360 --> 02:38:13,920
which has equity involved. So I don't think in another itself, the mission I don't think as it exists

1770
02:38:13,920 --> 02:38:18,040
is a danger as much to the federal funding as when it gets

1771
02:38:18,040 --> 02:38:21,420
described the EI. That would be my guess.

1772
02:38:21,500 --> 02:38:22,180
Okay, thank you.

1773
02:38:22,180 --> 02:38:23,400
But that's still some speculation.

1774
02:38:23,620 --> 02:38:25,160
Okay, thank you. And follow up.

1775
02:38:25,380 --> 02:38:27,540
So I've just seen, you know, as being the

1776
02:38:27,540 --> 02:38:29,520
Foreign President of the White Mayor in Polk County,

1777
02:38:30,000 --> 02:38:32,020
that we're going away from that. We're using words like

1778
02:38:32,020 --> 02:38:35,160
inclusivity and belonging. So just switching those words

1779
02:38:35,160 --> 02:38:37,720
there would put in my understanding with

1780
02:38:37,720 --> 02:38:40,020
put us in a more neutral place.

1781
02:38:41,360 --> 02:38:46,580
that would be my, I guess, advice based on some speculation.

1782
02:38:47,320 --> 02:38:49,240
Okay, thank you.

1783
02:38:49,460 --> 02:38:50,600
Thank you very much.

1784
02:38:51,460 --> 02:38:54,820
So I've got a question on come, and actually, I think he tells a call.

1785
02:38:55,180 --> 02:38:57,300
But I will hold my question.

1786
02:38:57,460 --> 02:39:02,020
I'm going to see if there's anybody to my left that would like to ask a question.

1787
02:39:02,020 --> 02:39:04,420
because the business star,

1788
02:39:12,580 --> 02:39:14,180
my girlfriend, please, so sorry.

1789
02:39:19,090 --> 02:39:21,110
So what is

1790
02:39:23,570 --> 02:39:32,990
that we are just giving, I think, Mr. Lindsey, are you just asking maybe for

1791
02:39:32,990 --> 02:39:41,470
some time to evaluate what you're seeing come across to help give us direction go forward?

1792
02:39:43,190 --> 02:39:48,710
In that particular instance, I was just answering a question about the executive orders.

1793
02:39:49,390 --> 02:39:57,490
Right, but do you need, I mean are you seeing there, you need time to evaluate those to understand what the level of impact could be?

1794
02:39:58,310 --> 02:40:08,810
Well, yes, understanding those would also mean, and sometimes it takes longer than we would even any of us would like, which is seeing if courts challenge them.

1795
02:40:08,810 --> 02:40:17,690
you know seeing if all sorts of groups come out and so so the evaluation is probably going to take

1796
02:40:17,690 --> 02:40:27,030
a long, long time but what I would think is a stronger position is to change some of the words.

1797
02:40:27,190 --> 02:40:38,790
I know that sounds silly maybe to some and not necessarily change the mission but really kind of

1798
02:40:38,790 --> 02:40:49,150
I mean, I get that. I mean, he had a scared, just in my personal work, my freight with some of the orders that came out.

1799
02:40:49,670 --> 02:40:50,790
So I get it.

1800
02:40:54,060 --> 02:40:55,440
Does Christopher do anything?

1801
02:40:57,040 --> 02:41:07,240
I have, I have no desire to indefinitely pause, see deck. However, I hear what you're saying.

1802
02:41:07,240 --> 02:41:13,620
And again, we have a work session next Monday where we're going to do committee review.

1803
02:41:14,280 --> 02:41:17,580
And that could include changing titles,

1804
02:41:18,200 --> 02:41:25,800
Norman Claycher, if you think that that would be helpful to allow that committee to continue to do the work there,

1805
02:41:26,120 --> 02:41:28,260
that they're doing with a different name,

1806
02:41:28,920 --> 02:41:34,300
I would ask that if we are going to postpone it,

1807
02:41:34,300 --> 02:41:42,080
Let's postpone it until and if the same with the resolution that's on here.

1808
02:41:42,100 --> 02:41:47,360
I would ask the same thing that I asked of K-PAC, and that is, let us get to the work session

1809
02:41:47,360 --> 02:41:53,000
where we can make any changes that we think are needed to be made and then come back the next

1810
02:41:53,000 --> 02:41:55,820
city council meeting. That's what I would ask.

1811
02:41:57,480 --> 02:41:58,440
Councillor Durran,

1812
02:42:00,580 --> 02:42:04,580
so I'm going to go to Councillor Parsons and I've got something I'll come

1813
02:42:04,580 --> 02:42:05,840
back to, Councillor Polar.

1814
02:42:07,880 --> 02:42:08,800
Okay, thank you, Madam Mayor.

1815
02:42:09,940 --> 02:42:14,300
This committee was formed after I got off City Council the last time, so I'm just still

1816
02:42:14,300 --> 02:42:16,720
learning about what's going on in the mission.

1817
02:42:17,760 --> 02:42:21,240
I understand that there was a work session that was cancelled recently.

1818
02:42:22,000 --> 02:42:28,840
I really think that that is an important thing that needs to be done, because I think it's

1819
02:42:28,840 --> 02:42:32,900
separate from the committee things, because I think there's much more involved here.

1820
02:42:33,620 --> 02:42:39,720
So I really think that we should keep going, have a work session figured out, we have to

1821
02:42:39,720 --> 02:42:43,020
change names, change word, whatever, and do it that way.

1822
02:42:43,320 --> 02:42:46,040
I mean, I don't think we should pause it.

1823
02:42:46,040 --> 02:42:54,100
I mean this is a separate whole big thing bigger than the arts pack and all that's not, that's my two cents.

1824
02:42:54,960 --> 02:42:56,720
I'll come back to you, Councillor Colour.

1825
02:42:57,400 --> 02:42:58,700
Thank you, Councillor Parsons.

1826
02:42:58,820 --> 02:42:59,720
That's where I was going.

1827
02:42:59,820 --> 02:43:03,360
I think we need to do this in collaboration with and talk with.

1828
02:43:03,700 --> 02:43:05,760
Listen to the Community Diversity Engagement Committee.

1829
02:43:05,900 --> 02:43:08,500
We've had more sessions with that committee before.

1830
02:43:09,200 --> 02:43:15,080
And I think that masking the committee to continue their work and add to their agenda for this week

1831
02:43:15,080 --> 02:43:21,440
to look at what their recommendations are, so we have even more information going to possibly

1832
02:43:21,440 --> 02:43:29,240
our work session, but I would really discourage us from stopping their work, and I would

1833
02:43:29,240 --> 02:43:35,160
also discourage us from making decisions outside of a joint work session with the Community

1834
02:43:35,160 --> 02:43:38,400
Diversity Engagement Committee as it stands right now.

1835
02:43:38,400 --> 02:43:46,260
I think that if we try to have that conversation just as a council in a work session, without

1836
02:43:46,260 --> 02:43:51,720
including the entire committee and do it jointly like we did last year, I think we are, we

1837
02:43:51,720 --> 02:43:56,320
heard loud and clear tonight from members of our community, members of the committee, that

1838
02:43:56,320 --> 02:44:02,840
this needs to continue, our work needs to continue, they are already working on definitions,

1839
02:44:02,840 --> 02:44:08,640
If already been on to Councillor Colors' question, we had the Community Diversity Engagement Committee

1840
02:44:08,640 --> 02:44:10,740
look at our Neighbor Dissociations structure.

1841
02:44:11,240 --> 02:44:15,780
We have them go and review and they are now visiting Neighbor Dissociations on a regular basis

1842
02:44:16,820 --> 02:44:19,740
for the engagement part of their mission.

1843
02:44:20,200 --> 02:44:28,220
They also did a thorough review of the traffic management program, a program that was

1844
02:44:28,220 --> 02:44:35,420
out of the last century into this century this decade in a huge leap and their input was

1845
02:44:35,420 --> 02:44:39,280
valuable in assessing that with the lens from the CDC.

1846
02:44:39,940 --> 02:44:44,840
Those are just two examples of where we've been able to engage with more voices at the table.

1847
02:44:45,360 --> 02:44:49,600
And I would really strongly urge us to not pause this committee.

1848
02:44:49,900 --> 02:44:54,280
I believe it is too early to change anything.

1849
02:44:54,280 --> 02:44:59,980
and then ask the committee itself to help us make recommendations and then get that work set.

1850
02:45:00,740 --> 02:45:09,820
On the on our schedule, in as soon as possible. So, that's where I really think we would need to go to listen to the people we've heard from tonight.

1851
02:45:10,840 --> 02:45:11,580
Councillor Colour.

1852
02:45:12,360 --> 02:45:13,440
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1853
02:45:14,660 --> 02:45:18,000
It's interesting when this committee was first put together.

1854
02:45:19,520 --> 02:45:28,160
Mr. Day was real Councillor Day was real adamant that we need to be careful of what the purpose of the committee was.

1855
02:45:28,160 --> 02:45:33,680
The purpose of the committee was to engage the community and help bring everybody

1856
02:45:33,680 --> 02:45:39,400
in together like in my neighborhood at home where we have diverse community

1857
02:45:39,400 --> 02:45:43,780
community, we all get together, we work together, we accomplish a lot of good

1858
02:45:43,780 --> 02:45:49,340
things. That was the purpose of this committee and he said specifically we

1859
02:45:49,340 --> 02:45:53,280
don't need a DEI committee, we need a committee that will help bring our

1860
02:45:53,280 --> 02:45:56,940
community together. I think the reason that we need to

1861
02:45:56,940 --> 02:46:06,700
to take a look at what's going on, I think that it's been turned into a DEI committee and I think we're losing the purpose of what's going on in our community.

1862
02:46:07,140 --> 02:46:12,740
When I go out and I talk to people and ask them, what do you want in our community?

1863
02:46:12,840 --> 02:46:18,760
What would you like this? We'd like that. I'm not seeing that committee accomplish those things.

1864
02:46:19,520 --> 02:46:24,440
So that's why I think we need to re-value where they aren't what they're doing and where we need to go forward.

1865
02:46:24,440 --> 02:46:27,280
Kind of sort of a clarifying question.

1866
02:46:28,880 --> 02:46:33,880
How is the community diversity engagement committee, a quote, DEI committee, can you

1867
02:46:33,880 --> 02:46:36,100
help me understand that?

1868
02:46:36,400 --> 02:46:41,420
We'll look at the mission that's there, and what they just put out, that's their definitions

1869
02:46:41,420 --> 02:46:44,560
for DEI, that's where I get that.

1870
02:46:47,640 --> 02:46:48,580
I'm so confused.

1871
02:46:49,620 --> 02:46:54,960
Diversity engagement, we have a statement of values that we have since the City Council passed

1872
02:46:54,960 --> 02:47:02,380
for Justice Equity, Diversity, Inclusion, and thus the guiding document behind the outreach

1873
02:47:02,380 --> 02:47:06,720
that we are looking for through the Community Diversity Engagement Committee.

1874
02:47:08,260 --> 02:47:16,260
So I still don't understand what a DEI committee is versus what we are doing here with

1875
02:47:16,260 --> 02:47:17,940
our Community Diversity Engagement.

1876
02:47:18,980 --> 02:47:20,180
I'm confused.

1877
02:47:20,180 --> 02:47:20,840
really

1878
02:47:24,040 --> 02:47:33,380
start. So when justice is based on what color you are versus let's go

1879
02:47:33,380 --> 02:47:40,060
out and work together and do things that's when I think that if justice is the

1880
02:47:40,060 --> 02:47:45,500
whole big thing that's that's a DEI committee rather than when somebody comes in

1881
02:47:45,500 --> 02:47:50,200
and says there's not enough people on the council that look like me therefore we

1882
02:47:50,200 --> 02:47:56,560
change this. If somebody wants to be on the council and they want to be involved in things,

1883
02:47:56,740 --> 02:48:01,840
they want to be in committees and they want to work on our council and be on our council and be

1884
02:48:01,840 --> 02:48:08,680
elected, great, I have no problem with that. I think that anybody that wants to be involved in our

1885
02:48:08,680 --> 02:48:15,080
city government, whether it be committees or on the council or in the other way, should be able

1886
02:48:15,080 --> 02:48:21,060
do that. I have no problem at all with that. But when we have to say, oh, we have to have

1887
02:48:21,060 --> 02:48:27,740
this many people of this race or this, this or that, the other thing, then we're missing

1888
02:48:27,740 --> 02:48:45,060
what we're looking for. So thank you. One more follow up. Have any recommendations come out of

1889
02:48:47,540 --> 02:48:54,300
You know, a quotas, which is why heard you say, have there been any quota type of recommendations?

1890
02:48:55,020 --> 02:48:58,980
I haven't heard that from the committee that I heard from different members.

1891
02:49:00,560 --> 02:49:06,820
My question was, has the committee made recommendations regarding quotas of any type?

1892
02:49:07,800 --> 02:49:13,140
I haven't heard an official statement from the committee about a lot of things, but that's not one that I have heard.

1893
02:49:13,960 --> 02:49:14,640
Thank you.

1894
02:49:17,040 --> 02:49:32,780
So at this point is there a desire to put a motion on the table or to put this off and have a work joint work session with the community diversity engagement committee.

1895
02:49:40,110 --> 02:49:52,050
Does somebody want to put a motion on the table or regarding whether or not the committee should meet or would like to direct that we schedule a work session with the committee as soon as possible?

1896
02:49:54,660 --> 02:50:00,840
I'll make a motion that way you schedule work session with the committee as soon as possible to put it all together for us.

1897
02:50:01,900 --> 02:50:03,200
Looking for a second?

1898
02:50:03,200 --> 02:50:03,500
Yes.

1899
02:50:04,400 --> 02:50:05,620
As a member.

1900
02:50:06,700 --> 02:50:07,260
Microphone.

1901
02:50:09,280 --> 02:50:09,740
Second.

1902
02:50:10,080 --> 02:50:10,840
Thank you.

1903
02:50:11,060 --> 02:50:16,780
It's the move by Councillor Parsons, second by Councillor Christopher, to schedule a work session with

1904
02:50:16,780 --> 02:50:19,700
the committee to proceed engagement committee as soon as possible.

1905
02:50:20,360 --> 02:50:21,160
Any further discussion?

1906
02:50:22,180 --> 02:50:22,900
Councillor Cross.

1907
02:50:23,340 --> 02:50:23,720
Thank you.

1908
02:50:23,720 --> 02:50:26,160
I guess it's a bit for you, Councillor Parsons.

1909
02:50:26,900 --> 02:50:31,000
So was that motion just, do we have a date for the work session?

1910
02:50:33,440 --> 02:50:36,200
Or was just when the work session is like January,

1911
02:50:36,880 --> 02:50:37,320
2026?

1912
02:50:38,220 --> 02:50:39,760
Okay, what's the date for the work session?

1913
02:50:40,360 --> 02:50:41,480
That counts.

1914
02:50:41,760 --> 02:50:42,500
What the things around?

1915
02:50:42,620 --> 02:50:46,380
I mean, if we want to get this stuff done and we want diversity committee,

1916
02:50:47,040 --> 02:50:50,180
or see diversity engagement committee to feel heard,

1917
02:50:50,260 --> 02:50:51,880
then let's get it done and push stuff out.

1918
02:50:52,060 --> 02:50:52,940
Let's get done.

1919
02:50:53,420 --> 02:50:54,960
If they're not feeling like we're doing stuff,

1920
02:50:54,960 --> 02:50:56,800
Let's get it pushed through.

1921
02:50:57,620 --> 02:50:57,960
Thank you.

1922
02:50:58,260 --> 02:51:02,040
And I would agree that's why in the motion is said as soon as possible.

1923
02:51:02,460 --> 02:51:03,680
But so can we get it on the date?

1924
02:51:03,920 --> 02:51:05,440
Well, once soon as possible, it's a lot of things.

1925
02:51:05,580 --> 02:51:09,580
I understand that once we have voted on this,

1926
02:51:09,860 --> 02:51:13,200
we can work with our city recorder to find open dates.

1927
02:51:13,620 --> 02:51:14,840
And we can get that done.

1928
02:51:15,060 --> 02:51:17,900
But it's not, I think, as soon as possible,

1929
02:51:18,400 --> 02:51:20,680
is something that we can work on once we pass.

1930
02:51:21,060 --> 02:51:23,320
Once we take action on this motion,

1931
02:51:23,320 --> 02:51:36,760
Councillor Krista, for just asking, could we postpone the goal-setting work session and do the

1932
02:51:36,760 --> 02:51:40,280
CDEC work session with CDEC next Monday?

1933
02:51:44,340 --> 02:51:46,780
Because I believe there is a sense of urgency.

1934
02:51:47,440 --> 02:51:53,980
I believe we should, and I know it's important to set goals as well, I'm just asking.

1935
02:51:53,980 --> 02:51:59,120
What I would do is I would ask that we work with our city recorder to find a mutually

1936
02:51:59,120 --> 02:52:05,560
agreeable date for because not just the seven of us it's also the committee as well

1937
02:52:05,560 --> 02:52:08,360
and we're going to work with them on that to get that schedule.

1938
02:52:08,700 --> 02:52:16,240
So as soon as possible is that possible part so is it that is possible if that date worked

1939
02:52:16,240 --> 02:52:20,920
that we could do that I guess that's what I'm asking there that would be an option if the

1940
02:52:20,920 --> 02:52:24,160
Council wishes that to be an option for consideration,

1941
02:52:25,020 --> 02:52:27,560
input it out out to the committee, then that can be an option.

1942
02:52:29,120 --> 02:52:30,700
I'm going to go to Council President Star.

1943
02:52:31,000 --> 02:52:32,420
I'll come back to Councilor Cross.

1944
02:52:33,900 --> 02:52:34,720
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1945
02:52:36,800 --> 02:52:41,260
When we were back in, I think it was just December

1946
02:52:41,260 --> 02:52:46,540
when the council rules were on the agenda,

1947
02:52:46,540 --> 02:52:51,020
you made a really good point about pausing the work

1948
02:52:51,900 --> 02:52:54,800
until Councillor Parsons was at the table.

1949
02:52:55,520 --> 02:52:58,380
So I think my question that just occurred to me

1950
02:52:58,380 --> 02:53:01,340
as I'm listening to this and we've heard from some

1951
02:53:01,340 --> 02:53:05,660
of our current committee members, where are we at,

1952
02:53:06,560 --> 02:53:10,160
and maybe this isn't the right venue, but where are we at

1953
02:53:10,160 --> 02:53:18,630
getting a full committee member of waitments.

1954
02:53:19,110 --> 02:53:20,750
So we just moved that down the agenda.

1955
02:53:22,170 --> 02:53:26,390
Okay, so I just want to make sure, like, when we're having the conversation

1956
02:53:26,390 --> 02:53:31,890
about setting this work session that we're not, that that's, we don't do that.

1957
02:53:32,250 --> 02:53:32,850
So thank you.

1958
02:53:32,970 --> 02:53:33,950
Thank you.

1959
02:53:34,050 --> 02:53:35,070
And we have two minutes.

1960
02:53:37,800 --> 02:53:38,880
Any further discussion?

1961
02:53:40,080 --> 02:53:40,780
Council cross.

1962
02:53:40,780 --> 02:53:50,280
So follow up, I just want to be on the record that hopefully we can push this out and I'm in support of changing our work session and making it a see that work session.

1963
02:53:50,560 --> 02:53:51,400
I'm looking at your territory.

1964
02:53:54,810 --> 02:53:58,070
And again, we're going to have to coordinate with the members as well.

1965
02:53:58,430 --> 02:54:00,910
So there are 14 schedules to look at.

1966
02:54:01,630 --> 02:54:02,070
All right.

1967
02:54:02,830 --> 02:54:03,810
Any further discussion?

1968
02:54:04,990 --> 02:54:05,350
All in favour?

1969
02:54:06,010 --> 02:54:06,610
I'm sorry.

1970
02:54:07,510 --> 02:54:07,910
I don't know.

1971
02:54:09,870 --> 02:54:12,450
Ms. Bishop, would you please restate the motion on the floor?

1972
02:54:12,450 --> 02:54:17,390
Councillor Persons moved to schedule of work session with the CDEC as soon as possible.

1973
02:54:17,990 --> 02:54:22,890
Okay. That is the motion on the table. Thank you. Anything further? All in favour?

1974
02:54:22,970 --> 02:54:29,390
Please signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed signify by saying no. Motion passes unanimously.

1975
02:54:30,850 --> 02:54:38,090
Let's go to item. We are at 9 o'clock. We now need to decide if we are going to finish the agenda

1976
02:54:38,090 --> 02:54:43,850
or if we're going to push these out to February 3rd, so we haven't finished item 8.

1977
02:54:45,450 --> 02:54:46,090
Okay.

1978
02:54:46,090 --> 02:54:46,450
18th.

1979
02:54:46,630 --> 02:54:46,650
Yes.

1980
02:54:46,810 --> 02:54:48,170
Today is February 3rd.

1981
02:54:50,230 --> 02:54:59,410
And with that, so remaining on the agenda are items I5A, J, and then the Council consent calendar,

1982
02:55:00,330 --> 02:55:01,990
and then agenda input.

1983
02:55:01,990 --> 02:55:12,510
So, we would need a motion to either push these out to February 18 or to conclude the agenda.

1984
02:55:13,750 --> 02:55:18,710
I move to move these items to February 18.

1985
02:55:20,670 --> 02:55:24,270
The move to move to February 18.

1986
02:55:24,270 --> 02:55:31,970
I would like to point out that the appointment of the committee members would then be pushed off to February 18.

1987
02:55:32,590 --> 02:55:38,690
because that is five A is after I and so it happens on the day.

1988
02:55:39,070 --> 02:55:47,390
So if we could, I know it's been moved and seconded, may I ask for an amendment to give

1989
02:55:47,390 --> 02:55:54,810
us another 15 minutes to proceed with the agenda. If the mover would accept that change.

1990
02:55:54,810 --> 02:55:55,550
Yes.

1991
02:55:56,050 --> 02:55:58,670
It's a second of accept the change.

1992
02:55:58,750 --> 02:55:59,510
That would be wonderful.

1993
02:56:00,250 --> 02:56:00,370
All right.

1994
02:56:00,810 --> 02:56:05,790
So it's been moved in a second of the College City Council continue the work for an additional

1995
02:56:05,790 --> 02:56:07,370
15 minutes.

1996
02:56:07,990 --> 02:56:09,770
All of everything to five by saying aye.

1997
02:56:10,730 --> 02:56:11,990
I'm posting Vapisigno.

1998
02:56:13,880 --> 02:56:15,620
15 more minutes to this.

1999
02:56:16,080 --> 02:56:17,600
Let's go to item eight.

2000
02:56:18,260 --> 02:56:18,700
I'm sorry.

2001
02:56:21,560 --> 02:56:21,680
Eight.

2002
02:56:22,160 --> 02:56:23,020
Which is resolution?

2003
02:56:30,700 --> 02:56:31,380
I

2004
02:56:36,950 --> 02:56:40,590
think this is the one we just moved on.

2005
02:56:42,110 --> 02:56:44,650
This is just a point of clarification.

2006
02:56:45,050 --> 02:56:52,130
This is the one regarding changing the composition of the committee.

2007
02:56:52,130 --> 02:56:54,710
And there are two sections of this.

2008
02:56:55,190 --> 02:57:03,470
One is to change the council positions from to voting to one non voting.

2009
02:57:04,210 --> 02:57:19,730
And the other consideration is to change the appointment process from as it is now through an appointment to a term to making it an appointment of council with the two year cycle.

2010
02:57:19,730 --> 02:57:26,810
And that's what I understand is in this committee, in this agenda item.

2011
02:57:27,010 --> 02:57:27,890
Do I have that correct?

2012
02:57:28,590 --> 02:57:38,990
I thought we had, or the Council had, determined in with previous item age that they would

2013
02:57:40,070 --> 02:57:45,410
not change the meeting of the CBC.

2014
02:57:45,790 --> 02:57:46,350
That is correct.

2015
02:57:46,350 --> 02:58:03,450
And then item I had to deal with the terms, and then the, I think, with the one that's important for Councillor Persons was to actually declare appointments from Councillor members to it.

2016
02:58:03,870 --> 02:58:13,430
I understand. The current order of the agenda is to go to eight, eight, eight, eight, and then five, eight will come after that.

2017
02:58:13,430 --> 02:58:21,550
because we need to conclude the work of Section 85 first in the order of the agenda.

2018
02:58:22,590 --> 02:58:28,590
So this one is to look at the resolution R-2021, 3225.

2019
02:58:30,050 --> 02:58:35,050
And this was brought forward again under other business.

2020
02:58:35,130 --> 02:58:41,070
I asked that we look at changing the two voting counselors to one non-voting liaison.

2021
02:58:41,070 --> 02:58:49,290
and then CalSacris for us that we include changing the appointment process from what we have now

2022
02:58:49,290 --> 02:58:57,110
where an appointment is made for a term where then would be concurrent with council positions

2023
02:58:57,110 --> 02:59:02,190
and that we've got changed in our rules of procedure at the last meeting.

2024
02:59:02,190 --> 02:59:04,350
So Madam Mayor and Council,

2025
02:59:06,410 --> 02:59:09,790
the State Attorney prepared the Staff Report for this item,

2026
02:59:10,250 --> 02:59:17,410
but I will also maybe suggest that as you did with the previous committee to wait

2027
02:59:17,410 --> 02:59:23,090
told, I was discussed amongst the committees, but that's the Council's pleasure.

2028
02:59:23,910 --> 02:59:25,730
And Mr. Lindsey has the Staff Report.

2029
02:59:25,890 --> 02:59:26,250
Okay,

2030
02:59:28,600 --> 02:59:29,860
I might have kind of done it.

2031
02:59:29,860 --> 02:59:59,480
What? Oh, you absolutely did. This was just an item that the Council asked in again, sort of, the similar vein of trying to bring out consistency in the committees is this committee, the Council thought and gave me direction to treat more like the VCC in terms of the way of this structure is of the appointment process and remove the two voting members.

2032
02:59:59,480 --> 02:59:59,840
Thank you very much.

2033
03:00:04,250 --> 03:00:17,290
And then the terms would coincide with terms of councillors so that it would be a better marriage of when people get replaced or re-appointed, because it isn't all just replaced when it's all.

2034
03:00:20,600 --> 03:00:24,580
questions council I'm going to go council president star and then I'll go to council

2035
03:00:24,580 --> 03:00:30,780
persons. Thank you, Madam Mayor. This is I just want to clarify that we just

2036
03:00:30,780 --> 03:00:39,080
voted to not do the resolution for the earth's commission until after we do the

2037
03:00:39,080 --> 03:00:47,240
committee review. Correct. I'm just trying to stay with us here. So why would we not do

2038
03:00:47,240 --> 03:00:53,240
the same thing here and review before we make a change.

2039
03:00:54,680 --> 03:00:57,340
And I, it's a step to council at this point.

2040
03:00:57,340 --> 03:00:58,760
I just need to be sure of tracking.

2041
03:00:59,420 --> 03:01:03,540
And to your point, this was brought forward as per council request.

2042
03:01:04,720 --> 03:01:10,020
And given the, the prior action on eight,

2043
03:01:11,240 --> 03:01:16,160
the, Mr. Brown makes a good point that this could be part of the work session with the community

2044
03:01:16,160 --> 03:01:21,080
The first engagement committee and I think I just, my melted with Councillor Parsons.

2045
03:01:21,220 --> 03:01:22,660
You did. That's what I was going to say.

2046
03:01:23,000 --> 03:01:27,140
All right, so what she said, can I make that?

2047
03:01:27,320 --> 03:01:28,860
Would you like to make that motion?

2048
03:01:29,560 --> 03:01:32,680
Oh, if you, I don't know. I'll give up my very passion.

2049
03:01:32,700 --> 03:01:36,200
I'm so free to friendly amend anything that I.

2050
03:01:36,620 --> 03:01:39,140
I move that we,

2051
03:01:40,900 --> 03:01:50,360
table item 8i until after we do the committee review,

2052
03:01:52,710 --> 03:01:55,610
which is now pending on when we

2053
03:01:55,610 --> 03:01:59,270
do the work session with the CDC committee.

2054
03:02:03,210 --> 03:02:03,950
No.

2055
03:02:03,950 --> 03:02:04,390
Oh my God.

2056
03:02:04,650 --> 03:02:05,390
This is my issue.

2057
03:02:05,710 --> 03:02:06,590
May I next?

2058
03:02:07,290 --> 03:02:07,490
Yes.

2059
03:02:10,430 --> 03:02:11,550
May I next?

2060
03:02:11,550 --> 03:02:18,210
I would look for a motion to table this pending through joint work session with the community

2061
03:02:18,210 --> 03:02:19,570
for St. Kageman Committee.

2062
03:02:20,370 --> 03:02:20,850
That's perfect.

2063
03:02:21,610 --> 03:02:23,050
So, is that what you like to move?

2064
03:02:23,130 --> 03:02:23,470
Yes.

2065
03:02:23,610 --> 03:02:24,530
That's what I want to move.

2066
03:02:24,790 --> 03:02:24,990
Thank you.

2067
03:02:25,350 --> 03:02:27,470
And who would like to second that?

2068
03:02:27,550 --> 03:02:27,830
Also.

2069
03:02:28,230 --> 03:02:29,650
Council portions will second.

2070
03:02:30,070 --> 03:02:31,370
Thank you very much.

2071
03:02:31,550 --> 03:02:32,690
Any further discussion?

2072
03:02:34,290 --> 03:02:36,370
All in favor, please say goodbye by saying aye.

2073
03:02:36,370 --> 03:02:36,750
Aye.

2074
03:02:37,170 --> 03:02:37,290
Aye.

2075
03:02:37,310 --> 03:02:37,610
Opposed.

2076
03:02:37,610 --> 03:02:42,390
And if I may say no, no objection, motion passes unanimously.

2077
03:02:44,070 --> 03:02:46,490
Okay, five, a, which is the appointments.

2078
03:02:48,290 --> 03:02:58,070
So the current rules of procedure are that the counselors make appointments in the two-year

2079
03:02:58,070 --> 03:03:05,940
rather than the current process where you have people already appointed and in midterm,

2080
03:03:05,940 --> 03:03:12,740
either one year or two years or three years in or in my case I still don't have a use member.

2081
03:03:13,980 --> 03:03:16,980
But the rules don't really give leeway for that.

2082
03:03:17,260 --> 03:03:21,560
As I understand it, that is something that we need to make those appointments.

2083
03:03:22,220 --> 03:03:24,060
Am I interpreting that correctly?

2084
03:03:25,780 --> 03:03:29,100
Mr. Lindsey, I'm looking for little guidance here.

2085
03:03:29,620 --> 03:03:31,280
I'm sorry, can you repeat that really fast?

2086
03:03:32,020 --> 03:03:32,740
Really fast?

2087
03:03:34,400 --> 03:03:36,900
Okay, I will shorten that up.

2088
03:03:37,440 --> 03:03:38,100
What are the rules?

2089
03:03:38,280 --> 03:03:42,400
Tell us we need to do now regarding the appointments for the Community Diversity Engagement Committee.

2090
03:03:43,220 --> 03:03:52,540
Okay, so your most recent rules that you just passed are for a two-year term, but the process

2091
03:03:52,540 --> 03:04:02,720
is still the same because the process under the resolution that controls the CDC and

2092
03:04:02,720 --> 03:04:11,460
itself has the same, as it always had, which is the same membership and the same terms of

2093
03:04:11,460 --> 03:04:13,900
that membership and the same appointment process.

2094
03:04:15,040 --> 03:04:21,360
So for clarification, that the phrase for Council Member of Pointless VIA Council, these

2095
03:04:21,360 --> 03:04:26,280
rules have preceded any individual resolutions relating to specific committees, that's a

2096
03:04:26,280 --> 03:04:27,300
rather broad statement.

2097
03:04:28,420 --> 03:04:30,040
What does that mean in this context?

2098
03:04:30,040 --> 03:04:58,500
Well, I thought it meant at the time that that was simply for all of the resolutions when they talked about the mayor being the appointee of the Council position that it was going to the rules were going to supersede all of those resolutions so we didn't have to change every single resolution as to the maneuver of making the Council the person who are the entity that appoints to

2099
03:04:58,500 --> 03:05:05,180
Counselors, too, counsel, liaison positions. That was my understanding, but I could be wrong because you

2100
03:05:05,180 --> 03:05:11,000
The what's in your crisis heads is more important than what's in my head in terms of how you legislate

2101
03:05:11,000 --> 03:05:16,760
I'm just like figure out what face and what it says. We've got to doubt what what got adopted is what it says

2102
03:05:16,760 --> 03:05:17,880
Okay, so

2103
03:05:18,480 --> 03:05:19,000
Intentionality

2104
03:05:19,860 --> 03:05:27,840
Is nice, but I'm reading the rules as they were adopted. This is the language that got put in and it got approved

2105
03:05:27,840 --> 03:05:33,240
I'm trying to understand what we are supposed to do here at this point based on the rules

2106
03:05:33,240 --> 03:05:34,000
that were passed.

2107
03:05:34,380 --> 03:05:35,700
I do not have the answer.

2108
03:05:35,900 --> 03:05:43,200
I believe that my memory of the work session where this got brought up on the 18th was

2109
03:05:43,200 --> 03:05:50,340
that the language was trying to get to making sure that all of the resolutions as they stated

2110
03:05:50,340 --> 03:05:55,660
that the mayor was going to point the liaison were that language was being superseded by that

2111
03:05:55,660 --> 03:06:03,780
take it or move but not the not the appointees of the council members and things like that from

2112
03:06:04,260 --> 03:06:14,420
on VCC or on CDCC. So the resolutions governing those two committees are not impacted by the

2113
03:06:14,420 --> 03:06:25,520
not shall be superseded. That's my understanding. Okay that's not how I read it but I will go with

2114
03:06:25,520 --> 03:06:27,740
the direction of the group.

2115
03:06:28,560 --> 03:06:29,400
So at this point,

2116
03:06:31,790 --> 03:06:32,690
then, let me go.

2117
03:06:33,690 --> 03:06:34,550
Councillor Colour.

2118
03:06:35,270 --> 03:06:36,250
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

2119
03:06:36,350 --> 03:06:37,710
Thank you, thank you.

2120
03:06:38,570 --> 03:06:43,670
Just a quick clarification, so if we pass this tonight,

2121
03:06:43,670 --> 03:06:48,030
then we would need to declare our members just like we do on the VCC tonight.

2122
03:06:49,730 --> 03:06:51,270
We've passed what?

2123
03:06:52,370 --> 03:06:56,830
We just table the resolution to work session.

2124
03:06:58,410 --> 03:07:03,510
So what we're working on right now is two things.

2125
03:07:04,630 --> 03:07:06,010
What we're working on are the rules of procedure,

2126
03:07:06,930 --> 03:07:09,410
and the resolution is established in the CDC.

2127
03:07:10,770 --> 03:07:12,970
In my brain, they are in conflict.

2128
03:07:14,750 --> 03:07:16,510
So sub to you guys, what you want to do with it,

2129
03:07:16,510 --> 03:07:24,550
Because what I read is that the rules of procedure supersede the CDC committee.

2130
03:07:24,850 --> 03:07:28,270
That is up to you guys to interpret it that way or not.

2131
03:07:31,850 --> 03:07:32,530
I just don't understand.

2132
03:07:32,750 --> 03:07:33,850
Councillor Colour, follow up.

2133
03:07:34,390 --> 03:07:35,270
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

2134
03:07:35,390 --> 03:07:47,130
My understanding is that what we were trying to do was have the CDC committee members appointed just the way we have the

2135
03:07:47,130 --> 03:07:52,390
VCC members appointed so that the beginning of every two years we would

2136
03:07:52,950 --> 03:07:59,510
restate who our person is whether it's the same or a new person. And that was

2137
03:07:59,510 --> 03:08:05,850
my understanding is what we were trying to do. Is that not correct? That's what I

2138
03:08:05,850 --> 03:08:11,310
read in the council rules of procedure. So then follow up on that then. So if we

2139
03:08:11,310 --> 03:08:19,430
to ask this diversity engagement committee appointments, and we would need to pre-state who our members are.

2140
03:08:24,040 --> 03:08:25,280
That's what...

2141
03:08:26,220 --> 03:08:28,620
Can I just start? Can I...

2142
03:08:28,620 --> 03:08:29,800
I hope it doesn't start.

2143
03:08:30,580 --> 03:08:42,660
Can we do what we did with just table this conversation until after we do our committee review that we're supposed to do every two years?

2144
03:08:42,660 --> 03:08:50,700
which I think is what we did with the resolution regarding the appointment for the Public Arts Commission.

2145
03:08:52,340 --> 03:09:01,840
Yes, okay. So I think we, number one, we've been meeting, we, nothing, I think Councilor

2146
03:09:01,840 --> 03:09:08,880
Crosses and I think it happens after 9 o'clock. I think we already made the motion or that

2147
03:09:08,880 --> 03:09:19,360
moved the review or the resolution for the Arts Commission until after, we do our committee review and I think this needs to follow the same.

2148
03:09:19,440 --> 03:09:28,360
The same process. I agree with what Attorney Lindsey said, Mr. Lindsey, said about what his understanding was.

2149
03:09:28,360 --> 03:09:33,700
And so instead of trying to muddle through this,

2150
03:09:33,860 --> 03:09:39,640
I think that we just do this after as part of our committee

2151
03:09:39,640 --> 03:09:41,120
review process,

2152
03:09:43,530 --> 03:09:46,030
I just think we need to do that.

2153
03:09:46,410 --> 03:09:47,530
I'm just keeping everything.

2154
03:09:47,890 --> 03:09:49,990
Instead of doing one off here, one off there,

2155
03:09:50,110 --> 03:09:52,530
we need to do all of the committee reviews together,

2156
03:09:53,330 --> 03:09:56,610
that we were going to do and move forward.

2157
03:09:57,970 --> 03:10:00,670
or pick it up after we do the reviews.

2158
03:10:02,190 --> 03:10:07,370
I understand that part with the reviews, the motion that we just passed was to have this

2159
03:10:07,370 --> 03:10:11,750
conversation with the Community Diversity Engagement Committee itself, whether recommendation.

2160
03:10:12,970 --> 03:10:19,210
And we'll be doing reviews, but the current rules are, do we have appointments to that committee,

2161
03:10:19,550 --> 03:10:25,770
which is going back to 5A, to make sure that we have appointments filled.

2162
03:10:25,770 --> 03:10:33,930
And I heard from Mr. Lindsey that we do, and so I think we just have our work session here

2163
03:10:33,930 --> 03:10:39,350
what they have to say do our counselor review and then do everything all together when it

2164
03:10:39,350 --> 03:10:43,230
if it comes if we need to make any changes. Does everybody have an appointee at this

2165
03:10:43,230 --> 03:10:52,110
point? I do. I don't. Okay. That was my question. I think I do. We don't have not

2166
03:10:52,110 --> 03:10:54,650
everybody has an appointee, so that's the issue right here.

2167
03:10:54,730 --> 03:10:56,250
Because we didn't know what we were going to do.

2168
03:10:57,630 --> 03:11:02,230
So we, I have one that, because her term is not up to a 20 till the end of the year.

2169
03:11:02,310 --> 03:11:02,570
Right.

2170
03:11:02,630 --> 03:11:03,050
I can't appoint.

2171
03:11:03,530 --> 03:11:03,970
I do.

2172
03:11:04,970 --> 03:11:07,770
But because I already appoint it, re-appointed her.

2173
03:11:07,770 --> 03:11:08,430
Last month.

2174
03:11:08,910 --> 03:11:09,870
I have so confused.

2175
03:11:10,730 --> 03:11:11,250
I'm sorry.

2176
03:11:11,390 --> 03:11:11,410
I'm sorry.

2177
03:11:11,610 --> 03:11:12,090
I'm sorry.

2178
03:11:12,470 --> 03:11:15,270
So we don't have a full-becing thing.

2179
03:11:15,750 --> 03:11:20,770
I have a CDC committee to have a joint session with.

2180
03:11:20,810 --> 03:11:21,190
Right.

2181
03:11:21,190 --> 03:11:23,230
We don't make those appointments today.

2182
03:11:24,790 --> 03:11:28,050
So if we are, and this is the rules of procedure

2183
03:11:28,690 --> 03:11:31,750
and the actual resolution, they are different.

2184
03:11:32,750 --> 03:11:36,230
And it was past last week or two weeks ago,

2185
03:11:36,650 --> 03:11:39,150
but we do have people who are currently serving

2186
03:11:39,150 --> 03:11:41,570
on the committee, and they are the need of Picasso,

2187
03:11:41,890 --> 03:11:45,370
Tamikon, Stephanie Cross, a Karadad Brown,

2188
03:11:45,370 --> 03:11:49,250
Jane Ticino, those five plus counselors,

2189
03:11:52,350 --> 03:12:11,350
So we have two vacancies under the current structure that is for Councillor Christopher and for myself and under our current structure, if we're not looking at this council rules of procedure, but we're looking at the resolution, I'm supposed to appoint a youth member.

2190
03:12:11,350 --> 03:12:17,610
Look at the council rules of procedure, I just have to appoint somebody and not necessarily your youth.

2191
03:12:19,050 --> 03:12:23,630
So, I'm foreign to out there,

2192
03:12:25,890 --> 03:12:28,470
the rules of procedure were adopted as they are.

2193
03:12:28,890 --> 03:12:31,050
So, what did you mean by them?

2194
03:12:33,440 --> 03:12:36,300
I can't answer that because I don't know.

2195
03:12:37,860 --> 03:12:38,520
Councillor Cross.

2196
03:12:39,200 --> 03:12:39,780
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

2197
03:12:39,860 --> 03:12:42,040
I'm just going to point out, it's about nine, seven, ten right now.

2198
03:12:43,360 --> 03:12:52,220
So if somebody wants, I'm not going to vote to extend this meeting if I want to table it because we are getting that last 15 minutes, we are getting done.

2199
03:12:52,580 --> 03:12:53,180
In my opinion.

2200
03:12:55,560 --> 03:12:56,760
Well I don't either.

2201
03:12:56,940 --> 03:12:57,900
I'm sitting between them.

2202
03:12:58,580 --> 03:13:01,120
So the thing is that at this point we still have two vacancies.

2203
03:13:02,020 --> 03:13:05,720
Councillor Chris, for do you have anybody to recommend for the committee at this point?

2204
03:13:06,900 --> 03:13:09,860
I've talked with someone but I didn't know what to term of.

2205
03:13:09,860 --> 03:13:16,280
I was going to get past committee review so that I could tell them what that entailed and so

2206
03:13:16,280 --> 03:13:20,360
I have not confirmed it, but yes, I have talked with someone.

2207
03:13:20,640 --> 03:13:23,700
So you don't have anybody to not make that a matter of mayors?

2208
03:13:23,700 --> 03:13:29,740
And I do not have any student letters at this point, so I've been

2209
03:13:32,230 --> 03:13:34,110
to your phone night, please.

2210
03:13:34,570 --> 03:13:35,430
It's blinding.

2211
03:13:36,170 --> 03:13:36,870
Thank you.

2212
03:13:44,260 --> 03:13:52,580
So yeah, I'm still waiting for letters from students so I can interview for that position as well and that's still in progress.

2213
03:13:53,880 --> 03:14:03,320
So if we're going to go with the process that we are using right now is still the original and not the one in their council rules of procedure,

2214
03:14:03,320 --> 03:14:09,760
I need you guys to agree that that's the direction we're going right now, because this is not in compliance with our rules of procedure.

2215
03:14:12,080 --> 03:14:13,300
That's why I'm stuck.

2216
03:14:16,230 --> 03:14:17,170
Councilor Christopher.

2217
03:14:18,070 --> 03:14:26,110
I don't feel, I don't feel honest talking with my candidate till I know what it's going to be.

2218
03:14:26,110 --> 03:14:43,170
And so, and I know the direction of Council was to establish it, for example, when Councillor Parsons was elected, at some point, this committee, this committee is only three years old, is that correct?

2219
03:14:43,870 --> 03:14:53,330
So, at that point, when you set it up to have each Councillor put someone on that committee, they didn't run with the Council terms,

2220
03:14:53,330 --> 03:14:59,970
It has what made it so confusing and for councilor Parsons when she was elected, she already had someone.

2221
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:09,940
That position, so she was not able to act. So I think those things need to be clarified first before we make those appointments.

2222
03:15:09,940 --> 03:15:16,480
We have five individuals on there right now. Let's meet with those five individuals in the work session.

2223
03:15:16,660 --> 03:15:22,820
There are the folks that have been there for three years. Is that right here the longest you've been three years?

2224
03:15:22,820 --> 03:15:32,740
Yeah, so let's meet with those five individuals have the work session and determine where we're going and then we can make our appointments.

2225
03:15:33,940 --> 03:15:37,540
That's what I would do. I don't know how you get there but that's what I would do.

2226
03:15:38,940 --> 03:15:47,020
Okay, so is the consensus of council at this point to leave things as they are and then abide by the rules of procedure at a later date.

2227
03:15:48,160 --> 03:15:49,660
Okay, I just want to be clear.

2228
03:15:51,740 --> 03:15:51,900
Well,

2229
03:15:56,120 --> 03:15:57,780
it's all right.

2230
03:15:58,120 --> 03:15:59,580
Let's then look at.

2231
03:15:59,940 --> 03:16:01,760
And I know we only said 15 minutes.

2232
03:16:01,880 --> 03:16:03,220
We do have a consent calendar.

2233
03:16:03,400 --> 03:16:06,140
And there's a contract in there.

2234
03:16:09,020 --> 03:16:10,900
There was a contract in the consent calendar.

2235
03:16:11,440 --> 03:16:14,500
Would you be willing to go ahead with the consent calendar to get this done?

2236
03:16:15,860 --> 03:16:15,960
Okay.

2237
03:16:16,140 --> 03:16:18,000
Anybody object to the consent calendar?

2238
03:16:18,140 --> 03:16:19,520
Council President Star.

2239
03:16:19,520 --> 03:16:28,320
The consent calendar reads item eight, approval of January 6, 2025, regular session minutes.

2240
03:16:29,240 --> 03:16:34,280
Item B, approval of the January 18th, 2025, work session minutes.

2241
03:16:34,600 --> 03:16:44,440
And item C, resolution authorizing the Finance Director to enter into an agreement with Stone Security for milestone care premium support services.

2242
03:16:44,440 --> 03:16:53,160
Thank you. I'm going to pull 9B and we will bump that to the next council meeting.

2243
03:16:53,860 --> 03:16:54,740
There are some corrections.

2244
03:16:57,290 --> 03:17:00,990
Any other polls? Council President Star.

2245
03:17:03,110 --> 03:17:07,570
I move that we approve the consent calendar items A and C.

2246
03:17:07,570 --> 03:17:07,990
Second.

2247
03:17:08,870 --> 03:17:12,390
A and consent calendar items A and C have been moved

2248
03:17:12,390 --> 03:17:13,330
and seconded.

2249
03:17:13,470 --> 03:17:15,770
All in favor, please signify by saying aye.

2250
03:17:16,090 --> 03:17:16,450
All right.

2251
03:17:16,650 --> 03:17:19,710
Opposed to divide by saying no, no objection.

2252
03:17:20,470 --> 03:17:21,910
Motion passes unanimously.

2253
03:17:22,870 --> 03:17:26,250
Just for the records, our next meetings will be Monday,

2254
03:17:26,290 --> 03:17:28,650
February 10, starting at 6 p.m.

2255
03:17:28,690 --> 03:17:30,890
that will be our goal-setting work session

2256
03:17:30,890 --> 03:17:32,950
review of forced committees and commissions

2257
03:17:32,950 --> 03:17:34,530
and the proclamation list.

2258
03:17:35,150 --> 03:17:37,550
Our next council meeting will be on February 18.

2259
03:17:37,550 --> 03:17:43,230
at 6 p.m. that is a Tuesday because of the President's day of holiday, and that on Monday

2260
03:17:43,230 --> 03:17:49,250
February 24th we will meet at 6 p.m. a long-range flying task force, and this visit will work

2261
03:17:49,250 --> 03:17:57,770
with our counsel and the CTEC to schedule a work session as soon as possible. We will forgo our

2262
03:17:57,770 --> 03:18:02,130
memory course staff updates for the evening, but I do want double check, there's no other business.

2263
03:18:03,350 --> 03:18:04,610
There's one for Mrs. Kelts.

2264
03:18:04,770 --> 03:18:05,130
Thank you.

2265
03:18:05,270 --> 03:18:05,930
Madam Mayor.

2266
03:18:06,470 --> 03:18:06,950
Madam Mayor.

2267
03:18:06,950 --> 03:18:07,510
Mr. Lindsey.

2268
03:18:07,750 --> 03:18:08,150
Thank you.

2269
03:18:08,690 --> 03:18:14,510
So as part of this item, Jay, I brought forward.

2270
03:18:15,390 --> 03:18:19,170
And I would like to make that a part of the record so that it's been

2271
03:18:19,170 --> 03:18:22,390
at a public meeting so that I can make it part of a staff report for next time.

2272
03:18:22,570 --> 03:18:23,230
Thank you.

2273
03:18:23,750 --> 03:18:23,930
Okay.

2274
03:18:25,350 --> 03:18:25,810
That's all I have.

2275
03:18:27,570 --> 03:18:30,690
Okay, the time is 9.23 and we are adjourned.