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We'd like to welcome everyone to the September 1st, 206, city council meeting. As always, we'll start by discussing and reviewing the agenda item.

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It's a very healthy agenda, a big work session, a couple very important issues in executive session as well.

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And in addition to our regular business. So we'll get right to it.

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No old business.

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Now, for concerned, we have considerable minutes of the August 12 meeting.

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We have

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two minutes for the August 18th meeting, meeting, excuse me, F-3, consider our

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solution of the fiscal year 26, 27 vehicle replacement purchases through the Interplight

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Interplight Supply Management System, any questions on F-1, F-3,

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F-4, consider our

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solution, prove the bed from Andrew's Building Services for Danitorial at CO2-20.

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Questions on that one?

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on the question of theirs. That is something that's sent out for bid, it's not just.

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I believe so. Yes, great question. Thank you. Yeah. Michael, do you want to talk to

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us real quick about how you landed on?

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Yeah, we just see you, man. Yeah, we just, we put it out for

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a bit. So we had, I gotta look, I think we had 19 Osles come back in and so Andrews came in

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with the lowest over the next few years.

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Our next five years, excuse me,

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and either with a three percent increased per year,

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it's still ended up being the lowest set of all of the bits.

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So, and they also are the company that services

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City Hall, and all of the other facilities within the city.

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So, I don't want to keep in it in-house.

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That wasn't my choice.

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We didn't do that on purpose, but it didn't.

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We didn't do that on purpose.

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But we're happy with that number that they came back with.

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And do they currently service at that point?

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Now, the previous company was called Ambassador, they came in quite high, and so Andrews was the best looking one.

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Maybe that's in the common sense scale, right?

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All right.

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Good.

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Question.

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F5, consider our solution author as a city manager.

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If execute a linear agreement, lift out of ox, for the purpose of the project.

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Wolf and that works.

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Manage detection and respond to cyber security services.

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Any questions on F5?

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Does anyone want to put that in plain English?

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So what's the purpose of this?

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Besides cybersecurity that's part of our overall data, compliance,

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infection services that we implement.

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We're not being attacked.

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We've got to have a pretty many of that.

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So I will point out that governments in general are one of the heaviest

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attack entities out there because of all the information we have.

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And so having something like this, this is a very reputable company.

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This is a really good job protecting our data.

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Have we, is a night tailor to the city?

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It's not like a product you just turn on.

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It's tailored to the city that a certain company that buys it.

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Yeah?

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Good.

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Have, is this the week currently we're both up?

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Yes sir.

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We've been using lots of, I thought it's gonna be four days ever.

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He's our part.

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It's four to two or three years, I believe.

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And we're happy, obviously.

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Otherwise it wouldn't be on here.

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Yes sir.

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Okay.

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Okay. Good. You have the questions on consent?

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No, all business. H1, a public hearing,

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two certain ordinance for me, SUP, on Barber Lane, Doug Stamps, is the owner. A question

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is about H1,

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H2, the public hearing. It's major, major subdivision, final flat.

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It's like

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And then you kind of familiar Andrea Drew Linkford and Anna D.

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I'm sort of the owners.

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I miss a few owners there, there's quite a few 15, 16 well-signed.

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Any questions on that, I don't know.

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This is just how it's keeping, right?

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Clean up the self-property one.

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It's a little different.

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So the Southernmost lot on this plaque has never been plated.

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This existed in its current state for quite a while.

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Um, that owner wants to sell a back portion of her lot to several of the lots in Calais States, which is right there in North of Willis, I know I'm a jury today as a community with that area.

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So, it's a re-plot for those lots. It's the first time for this existing lot to ever open-plat it. There's a variance, because that existing lot actually doesn't need the minimum lot width for SF-36.

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And so, I think it's 122 feet. Is the width of that lot, the requirement is 140 feet. So, not traditional housekeeping, but hopefully pretty straightforward.

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I'll tell you another item on this and there, wherever, but those homes wanted to take

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it down because the elderly lady that lives there that's given property up is not.

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And so they've gone out on her property and maintained its own and now they've reached

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an agreement that they would buy and then they Sarah made them go through the what they needed

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to get it.

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But it's so it'll look better too.

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Sure.

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Sounds good.

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It's Wayne Wayne.

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Good discussion.

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H3.

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Consider an SUP for Eval Tavern.

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Any questions on H3?

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And this is one more.

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They already have tables there.

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The game tables there.

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They didn't realize the name of the SUP.

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Sounds like it.

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Is it the pull tables or the games?

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Definitely the pull tables.

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It's fun.

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So, the SUP would be required even if they just sent them both tables.

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It would be required for the gaming devices also.

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Those are, I think we've put in the Saphne-Mow place, apartments, and looking into those

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to see if they're even allowed to keep those.

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But even if they ended up just being the full tables, they would still need the SUP.

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H4, resolution, and circuit-approving special exception, the UDC, signar regulations for chalk and steel.

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Any questions on H4?

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H5, consider an ordinance approving amendments to the CEP Keller, UDC, for automobile electric charging stations.

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So as an item, I believe the mayor pro-tum and I have discussed and seems like a good subject matter to consider.

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So thanks, Shannon, for bringing it forward.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Any questions on page five?

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All right, each six, we're not going to,

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honestly, it's repetitive from the executive session item.

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And so we'll just type all that in the executive session.

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It's related to the metaphor.

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And we would just have to take any action.

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We would just take.

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We'd take it.

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Yeah.

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So each six is redundant.

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And so I'm not going to need to go through that.

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But to your point, Councilman, any action we would take would be out.

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And I don't know.

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All right.

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I've got to read a lot of language about the executive sessions.

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All right.

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This point.

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And I will say for people in the room.

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I think there's some folks in here talking, you know,

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to listening on the short-term run all discussion and other related items.

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We'll get, we have a very healthy and lengthy executive session.

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and it's sequenced this way for efficiency purposes.

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I don't know if we're going to get to SCRs before the 7 o'clock,

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but the good news is that the 7 o'clock meeting,

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knock on what we're not a journey, 7 o'clock meeting

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looks to be fairly straightforward.

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So hopefully, if we don't get to SCRs before 7,

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we'll be here, 7 o'clock, 5 o'clock, 8.

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It depends on how many questions Councilman Brennan has.

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I'm joking.

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Yeah, no, I'll be under the list of some of you.

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It depends on any questions we have as a council.

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All right, so we'll move to a new executive session under section 551.0704.

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It's a government code, personal matter, to deliver the employment employment, evaluation,

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assignment duties, discipline, or dismissal of a public officer employee, for the city sector

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and city managers, performance evaluation, we're also going to be executive session under section

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551.0701, the constitution was attorney, it was closed meeting, a government's a body of

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may not conduct a five-cost station with its turning accept.

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When government's a body seeks to advise its turning, you've got plenty of contemplation

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or some in offer or in a matter of which to do the turning, you've got to go into a body.

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Under the Texas Square Rolls of Professional Conduct, it's a state-of-art taxpayer can

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foot to the chapter.

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Those items are to discuss legal action relating to the West-like data center development

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and probably grow with all a cost of face-to-face two projects.

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It will also be an executive session under Section 551-072.

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Sex government code, deliberating, deliberation regarding rural property, it's close to meeting a government

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of the body and making doctor close to meeting to deliberate the first exchange of these

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or private rural problems, it's a little duration in another meeting, but if it would have a

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additional effect on the position of government of the body and negotiation of the third person,

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that's 1,000, very free and far away.

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going to go ahead and start with an invocation by Reverend Dr. Jason, Wendy. Thank you for being here, sir. Thank you all so very, very much.

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Councillor Smith. Yeah, Kelly, you're nine of us. Right at the road, appreciate it. Council, thank you all so much.

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City, thank you so much for being here. My tradition opens with just a simple word of silence, and then we get into prayer, so thank you so much.

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Holy English God entered this face and into our hearts that we might have ears to hear

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an eye to see.

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And so in the visiting of our lives, oh God, we trust that we pray, that you would forever

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hold before us.

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The common good said our own agenda is aside, that we might pursue with perseverance, the love

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of our neighbor that you successfully desire, all of this we pray in the name of love.

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That surpasses all the understanding.

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Amen.

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Thank you.

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Very, very much.

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You're welcome.

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Next up, we're going to have someone here who's no stranger to Keller,

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or lead us in the pledges of allegiance.

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The scout here, I think, Abigail will.

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Would you mind coming forward to lead us in the pledges?

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Gregory, you're welcome to join.

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If you'd like.

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Yeah, if you want to.

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Any time we see a scout in the audience,

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we ask you for your leadership.

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is a

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honor to come to the text of flag.

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I pledge allegiance to the text of one state,

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honor God, one in the indivisible.

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So it came to my attention that I'm wholly

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and qualified to serve in this seat this evening.

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And so we have Mr. Cohen Cox here,

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who's actually the mayor of the day.

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And I believe we have a colleague,

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Councilman Wattley, can be with us tonight.

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And so we also have a councilman of the day,

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which is Mr. Connor Cox, gentlemen,

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if you would mind coming forward

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in helping us lead the meeting,

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sure would appreciate it.

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Charles, you can say,

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Mayor, how are you?

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My check, that one's working.

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So we are extremely excited to have our mayor

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in councilman of the day, Mr. Mayor, if you don't mind,

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would you tell us how you got here?

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I did this summer, we didn't challenge

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and my name got drawn from something.

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The summer reading challenge.

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So what did you have to do to win the summer reading challenge?

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Ween.

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So just once?

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Um, I don't know.

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Wasn't it every day pretty much something like that?

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Something like that.

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You're going to make an excellent mayor.

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That's how we operate as well.

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So, we're super excited to have you here.

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Why don't you both tell us what school you go to?

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I go to ISMS.

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I don't go to Shetty Club Elementary.

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So, ISMS and Shetty Grove, more grades?

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I'm in seventh.

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I'm in thorn.

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seventh and third.

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Are you sure?

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You look older.

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So, how was your day?

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It was pretty good.

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Pretty good. What did you enjoy?

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All of it.

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I told Conner that he's going to make and Cohen that Conner's going to make an excellent councilman and Cohen's going to make an excellent mayor because when I asked him to pick between police and fire, they declined.

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They took the diplomatic approach and well, did you actually go to work today?

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Didn't you do like one or two calls with the fire department?

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Yes. What was that like? It was pretty cool.

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Pretty cool. Yeah, so Chiefs, Gags, what's on us? They literally did one or two calls with our firefighters out there, so

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All right, we've done school. What's one thing that you would change about color or improve one idea?

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I would add like a mode and see equipment near the baseball field

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because we were in a situation where I was needed and

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It didn't end too well.

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Yeah, yeah.

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What would Councilman?

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I would give everybody a wage because a lot of people asked for one.

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So Councilman, we're going to work on your request.

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Next meeting, we actually adopt the budget.

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And then Mayor actually just so you know, in part based on your feedback,

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we have put that emergency equipment at the baseball fields.

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So thank you for sharing this with that and I have one last question for you

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It's really important that you know this hopefully remember who's the boss of the city

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It was like the people the people that's right. It's not the mayor is it?

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All right, well you want to get a picture without you okay? Yeah, all right, and I have this certificate for you mayor

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So, we have the city color, thank you for serving as mayor today, really appreciate it.

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And then we'll go down here and take a picture, all right?

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There we go.

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next up we have a recognition for some of our very favorite people in Keller. But before

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we recognize this year's Keller Citizens Academy graduating class, I want to take a moment

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recognize someone that's near and dear to the city of Keller and our heart.

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Kimberly, doya, joined the city of Keller in 2021 and from what I

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understand actually grew up right here in Keller, very sadly we lost

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him last week and we were all heartbroken about that. She was participating in the

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Keller Academy and so we want to take a moment to recognize her, those who

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work with Kim, remember her very fondly.

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She's very kind, very sweet, very generous with her time.

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She called her co-workers her family.

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As I understand it, and even some of her last moments

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was literally trying to get back to work

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because she loved working with the city

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and I think more significantly the people that worked here.

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So we do have a certificate of appreciation.

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And we're going to send, on behalf of Mayor Council and our residents, flowers and, you know,

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as much support as we can to the family in their difficult time.

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And really just wanted to take a moment to acknowledge Kim and everything she's done

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on the city of Keller.

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So, very somber for us as a team, you know, as part of life is, unfortunately, is losing

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someone that you care greatly about, but we wish she could be here with us at night, but we're

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and do everything we can for the family and our residents and...

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In our employees, you know, Erin's been doing a good job reaching out to folks at town hall, so if anyone needs support or has questions, then please reach out to Marsha or Erin or any of us. Anything you would add?

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We're good. Okay. That being said, it is an honor. This was something that actually started just three years ago.

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And we have our graduating class with the color academy with us tonight.

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The program was established in 2024 with the goal of providing our employees with the unique opportunity to gain a deeper understanding of city government.

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And the essential functions from various departments, minor seniors, they go, you know, kind of like the color students as a academy, go department department and learn as much as they can.

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So from a city of color perspective, this is some of our best of the best.

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These are folks that want to go above and beyond the call of duty to learn everything they can about the city that they love.

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So, before you to not are employees representing several departments, including administration, community development, finance, human resources, information technology, parks and recreation, aka the fund department, if you ask Jordan and police.

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So, if you wouldn't mind, please join me in congratulating the Keller Academy class on this remarkable achievement.

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We appreciate everything you do on behalf of the City of Keller and as I understand it, Kelly is going to read your names.

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You'll come up.

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We'll have a competition so you get to allow us to pause.

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I mean, we'll hold a pause till the end and recognize you for your efforts and then we'll take a big group photo.

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So Kelly.

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Jasmine Byerley.

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Kim Doet.

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Ethan Flanders.

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Kimberly Guana.

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Amanda Haas.

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Jaylin Rivera.

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Chad Rogers.

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I'm so relieved to Amanda's here.

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I thought I was in trouble as a volleyball coach.

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So he's like, the, we still, that's all right.

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All right, the move on to persons to be heard. This is the time for the public to address the city council on any subject.

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However, the sector's open meetings act prohibits the City Council from discussing issues

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which the public has not been given three business days notice issues raised maybe

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refer to the staff for research and possible future action.

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Each speaker will be allowed three minutes to speak.

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First up is Mr. Stewart-Roney.

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Hi, I address the Council last month on flocked camera issues and there have been some interesting

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developments.

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Governor Abbott who has previously supported flocked camera deployment with over $30 million

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in state grants has reversed course when advised that the Texas Tribune was preparing a story

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on that. As of Thursday, August 27, Governor Abbott has ordered a pause on any state funding

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for flocked cameras. Governor Abbott's previous help had resulted in over 3,200 flocked cameras

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and stiles since 2021.

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The spending comes from the theft of money from the $1 per vehicle registration fee, passed into law in 2023. Something

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state lawmakers have complained about as never being suggested or authorized. Six police departments

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and sheriff's offices across Texas have announced offices being placed on leave, investigated or

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criminally charged in August alone. Yesterday, the state of Florida revoked the ability to

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Placer maintain ALPR cameras from any company on any state highway in the state of Florida.

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Any ALPR on a state highway in Florida has to be removed within one month.

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The problem with this is it doesn't address private properties and they use to flood cameras.

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Private entities that have canceled their flood contracts are being told they cannot

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remove the cameras, which begs the question, why? If, as Flock says, the data belongs

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to the businesses and the people that contract with Flock and the businesses are no longer

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contracting with Flock. Why leave the cameras up? Unless they're collecting data and

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and relaying it to Flock Stealth.

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Some businesses are actually being boycotted

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if they have Flock cameras in or next to their parking lots,

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which puts them in a very difficult circumstance

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when Flock refuses them the right to take down those cameras.

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Does the city of Calo,

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enjoy the idea of business have been driven away,

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or people refusing to shop at businesses

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in the city of Calo with ALPR cameras in the parking lot?

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businesses like Lowe's and some of the other ones. Imagine, instead, if a city of

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KELA move to remove flood cameras and encourage businesses to remove them, how they could

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tell people that you can come to KELA and not be tracked. Approximately 250 governments have

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cancelled the flood contracts in the past year, and KELA can lead the way. Especially since

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Northwich and Hills purchased over 200 flood cameras in the last year, and distributed them

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other cities in the area because they got funding from the state of Texas.

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This is being investigated as the paperwork justify the sole source contract is not in compliance

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with state law.

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I think you serve in this for what it's worth on that issue.

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I will be meeting with Chief Fortune soon to have a discussion for possible future action.

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All right.

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Next up we have Tom Fulbright.

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I guess you guys saw me a couple of weeks ago.

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I was focusing on sound and the worry about sound,

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low frequency sound coming from the Circle T data center to our

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killer neighbor's down there.

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Today I'm going to talk a little bit about the grid power.

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And again, done some research on this.

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I'm not going to read this information to you,

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but I did provide you guys with three pages of information

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on what I turned up regarding the Texas grid.

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But I can kind of do a quick overview.

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There were like 186 gigawatts of power planned for Texas

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in the coming months in June of 25.

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That ramped up to 271 gigawatts in April of 26.

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two hundred and seventy gigawatts just so you know I've got a little

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ircott app on my phone here and it says what Texas is pulling. Today

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Texas was pulling about eighty five gigawatts to run the state of Texas.

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One eighty five. So multiply that times three to support its industrial growth

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but mostly data centers.

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So this is just huge.

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So transmission lines is kind of the second paragraph.

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We're scrambling to try to get transmission lines in.

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The third paragraph, which is even more dire,

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is power.

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Where is the power plants that feed these transmission lines?

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Where is that going to come from?

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And then the other point I want to make is they're trying to rewrite the rules down in Austin because people could reserve power kind of without a real heavy commitment.

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You know, we're going to need this many megawatts, this many megawatts, so the rules.

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Providing power are getting juggled right now. Bottom line, nobody knows really what's going to happen.

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How fast these data centers are going to be able to come online, how quick we can get power lines in,

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how fast we can build power plants. So that takes me to my last page, I've still got 47 seconds.

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And I start with double-check me, find a qualified engineer that can verify this.

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But if all the backup generators on Circle T are running to support that power plant,

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it's the equivalent of 27,000 cars idling out there in the field.

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27,000 cars idling.

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So that's a lot of exhaust gas for folks around Keller and Westlight to be breathing.

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So in the plan, they say they're going to run these backup generators for 10 minutes each month.

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Just to make sure they work.

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But what if we have a problem with the Texas grid, the Texas transmission system, we don't have power.

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So, if we sue these guys, we need to have it in the rules.

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You can't run these things a hundred percent day and a day out.

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We've got to have limitations on how long they can have those things on because of its 27,000

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cars.

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That's a lot of gas.

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Thank you.

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Well, Spencer.

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Thank you.

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Is there anyone else from the public that I'd like to speak this evening?

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Seeing none, moved consent.

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I am F1, consider approval of the minutes of the Wednesday August 12, 26 special city

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Council meeting, F2, consider approval, the minutes of the Tuesday, August 18th, 26th,

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regular to the Council meeting. F3, consider our resolution proven the fiscal year, 2627,

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vehicle replacement purchases through enterprise, enterprise, fleet management, and authorizing

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the city manager to execute all related person documents on behalf of the city of

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Keller. Texas, F4, consider our resolution to prove in the bid from Andrew's building

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service incorporated of Dallas, Texas, Virginia soil services for the Keller point,

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recreation and aquatic center, and authorizes the city manager to execute all

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just documents really and there are two on behalf of the City of Calder.

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I have five, consider our solution authorizing the City Manager to execute a one-year agreement

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with Adivox of Houston, Texas for the purchase of Arctic Wolf Network's managed detection

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and response cyber security services.

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All right.

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Any discussion or questions on items up 1 through F5?

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Seeing none, organizing motion, mayor-protein.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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I move.

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We approve consent items.

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F1 through F5 is presented.

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Thank you, sir.

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Councilwoman Brennan.

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on my second motion.

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If a motion in a second, let's vote on consent.

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That's approved, 60, 0.

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H1 is a public hearing, consider an ordinance approving

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a specific use permit for an approximately 1,803 square foot

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accessory structure in approximately 11.24 acres located on the

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north side of Barbara Lane approximately 1,350 feet

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west from the intersection of Barbara Lane or Rousseau

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Drive.

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Legally described as a lot of 5A home side of the black

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edition zone single family 36,000 square foot lot size or greater and address

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715 Barbara Lane Douglas stamps is the applicant owner is the applicant with a

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site.

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Well would you please it's Charlie right? Do me a favor and wish your

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parents happy anniversary. What number is it? 25 and they didn't want to spend it

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here but you blocked them you you knocked them out okay all right we'll see you

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see Tom happy wedding anniversary and you know we'll consider the item but

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Thanks for being here,

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man.

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If the aerial and zoning maps here, subject property is owned SF-36, the applicant requests

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a specific use permit for a 1,883 square foot barn with an approximate average height of

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18 feet and two inches.

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The proposed structure is used for storage and a workspace to support the associated agricultural

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activities.

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There are two STP triggers for the structure to exceed 1200 square feet in the SF-36, zoning

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district and for the height of the structure to exceed an average of 15 feet tall.

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The site plan from the applicant shows the structure is located behind the main home and

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well conformed to the setback requirements of the SF-36 zoning district.

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Let's see it outlined in red there.

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The applicant is stated that the barn will be a fully framed and finished structure that

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has been designed to complement the architectural character and quality of the main home.

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You can see the elevations there,

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as well as the floor plan.

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The existing-

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On the properties intended to be demolished, and the new main home will be approximately 5,980 square feet. The EDC states that the combined area of all accessory buildings on a lot shall be less than 50% of the main structure and less approved by an SUV. This proposed structure would be less than 50% of the square footage of the main home.

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On July 30, the city milled 23 letters of notification, tall property owners, within 300 feet in such a exciting. Staff has received no public opinion letters in response.

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the request. Section 8.02 F2A of the UDC states that when considering an SDP request, the Council

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shall consider the following factors. The use is harmonious and compatible with surrounding

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existing uses or proposed uses. The activities requested by the applicant are normally

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associated with the permitted uses in the base district. The nature of the use is reasonable and

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appropriate in the immediate area. Any negative impact on the surrounding area has been mitigated

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and the any additional conditions specified ensure that the intent of the district purposes

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are being upheld.

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And at the August 11 planning and zoning commission meeting, commissioners unanimously

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recommended approval of the SUP request as presented.

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And again, this is a SUP request for access restructure to exceed 1200 square feet,

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yes, of 36 setting district, as well as for to exceed an average of 15 feet tall

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with a approximate average height of 18 feet and 2 inches.

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The City Council is the following options when considering this request, approve as submitted,

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approve the modifications, table the item, or deny, if you have any questions staff in the

472
00:36:39,950 --> 00:36:40,810
applicant are available.

473
00:36:42,050 --> 00:36:42,550
Thanks, Calvin.

474
00:36:44,250 --> 00:36:47,550
Anyone for the public, this is a public hearing, what anyone from the public like to speak

475
00:36:47,550 --> 00:36:48,370
on this item?

476
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,500
Anything you want to add?

477
00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:53,940
Now, we're good.

478
00:36:54,540 --> 00:36:54,700
Okay.

479
00:36:55,780 --> 00:36:56,540
We have a motion.

480
00:36:57,240 --> 00:36:57,920
Council in the will.

481
00:36:58,740 --> 00:36:58,860
Yes.

482
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,520
May I move to close the public hearing?

483
00:37:00,940 --> 00:37:01,680
Thank you.

484
00:37:01,820 --> 00:37:02,140
I'll second.

485
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,000
Let's vote.

486
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:05,700
Public hearing is closed.

487
00:37:06,180 --> 00:37:07,720
Any questions for staff or the applicant?

488
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,020
Not recognize a motion.

489
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:13,220
Council on Armstrong.

490
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,700
In the commentary to talk about that the existing home would be demolished.

491
00:37:18,780 --> 00:37:22,140
Is this going to be an issue if we allowed this to happen now?

492
00:37:22,140 --> 00:37:25,480
What if the bigger house doesn't get built?

493
00:37:27,140 --> 00:37:31,980
Isn't there a staff isn't there as U.P. or what is the status to the...

494
00:37:37,740 --> 00:37:39,360
I don't think staff has any concerns.

495
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:40,400
It's a good question.

496
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:42,400
All right.

497
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,220
Good question.

498
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:44,740
Any other questions or discussion?

499
00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:49,400
I'm really going to be the only one that wishes them a happy wedding anniversary.

500
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:50,320
I'm joking.

501
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:50,940
I'm joking.

502
00:37:51,540 --> 00:37:51,760
All right.

503
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,160
I'll make a motion to approve item H1 as presented.

504
00:37:55,820 --> 00:37:56,400
Councilman Will?

505
00:37:57,240 --> 00:37:57,940
Yes, Mr. Mayor.

506
00:37:57,940 --> 00:38:01,660
I second and also wish them a happy wedding anniversary too.

507
00:38:02,180 --> 00:38:03,160
All right, let's vote.

508
00:38:07,220 --> 00:38:08,740
Item is approved, 60.

509
00:38:09,260 --> 00:38:10,440
Thanks for coming in, and seriously,

510
00:38:10,620 --> 00:38:11,460
give them our best wishes.

511
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:13,440
Thanks for being here.

512
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,420
H2 is to consider resolution approving

513
00:38:15,420 --> 00:38:17,980
a major subdivision final plat with one variance for last three

514
00:38:17,980 --> 00:38:21,680
are through seven are block A and not one block B of clay.

515
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,900
State subdivision being six point six three acres

516
00:38:23,900 --> 00:38:25,760
located on the west side of Wilson and approximately

517
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,680
one thousand seven hundred and eight seven feet southeast

518
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,340
of the rap road and Wilson intersection

519
00:38:29,340 --> 00:38:34,280
and being a replad of lots 3-2-7 block A of the Play of State Subdivision and a final plot of

520
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:39,860
a portion of the John Edmund Survey abstract 457, track 4-1 and 4-8-2s on single family

521
00:38:39,860 --> 00:38:46,860
36,000 square foot and address this 304-308, 3-12, 3-16 and 3-20, collade drive and 15-16

522
00:38:46,860 --> 00:38:47,860
will slain.

523
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:56,020
Chris Blavins is the applicant, David Hawthorne, Dubba, Dubba, excuse me, Struck, Vocal Tross,

524
00:38:56,020 --> 00:39:00,800
Steven and Betty Sivinsky, Trina and Kenneth Miller, Andrea and Drew Linkford and Anna

525
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,100
Devental are the owners.

526
00:39:04,150 --> 00:39:04,530
Thank you, Mayor.

527
00:39:04,610 --> 00:39:06,170
I have the aerial and Sony maps.

528
00:39:06,390 --> 00:39:08,550
The Soviet property is zoned SF-36.

529
00:39:10,570 --> 00:39:17,530
The original plot was created in 2003 and included 15 SF-36 zoned lots.

530
00:39:18,110 --> 00:39:22,750
The other subject property, 1516, willus Lane has never been plotted, and that is the

531
00:39:22,750 --> 00:39:24,790
property outlined in orange show here.

532
00:39:25,710 --> 00:39:35,970
So the purpose of this reply is to revise the south property lines for lots three R through seven R of the Cali a state subdivision and create a final plot for that remainder lot.

533
00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:44,010
This application does include variance request, because of the lot for that remainder lot.

534
00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:49,430
Since the plot was never approved for that lot, that is the reason for the variance.

535
00:39:49,430 --> 00:39:53,150
in SF36, the minimum law width is 144 feet.

536
00:39:53,390 --> 00:39:56,950
They are showing a minimum law width of 122 feet.

537
00:39:57,790 --> 00:39:59,950
Here's a brief look at the zoning and...

538
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:06,520
In the future, land use plan designations for those properties. On July 30th, we mail that 34 letters in

539
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:11,280
order of application for this public hearing, but staff is receiving no formal public feedback and responses

540
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:17,880
request. Section 2.07 of the EDC states that when concerning a final part of appearances,

541
00:40:18,300 --> 00:40:22,420
the city council shall consider the following. That there are special circumstances or conditions

542
00:40:22,420 --> 00:40:26,860
affecting the land involved. That the granting the variance will not be detrimental to the

543
00:40:26,860 --> 00:40:31,100
like that the greater the variance will not have the effect of preventing the orally subdivision

544
00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:35,560
of the land in the area, that the granting the variance will not constitute a violation of

545
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,260
any other valid ordinance in the city, and that strict compliance with the regulations

546
00:40:39,260 --> 00:40:43,340
and or that the purpose of the regulations will be served to a greater extent by the alternative

547
00:40:43,340 --> 00:40:48,780
proposal. At the August 11th, planning and zoning commission meeting, the commissioners

548
00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:52,380
unanimously recommended approval of the plot with the variance as presented.

549
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,260
Council is following options when considering the final plot of

550
00:40:56,260 --> 00:41:00,660
fairings is approved as submitted, or with modifications, table, or

551
00:41:00,660 --> 00:41:03,740
deny staff in the applicant here if you have any questions.

552
00:41:05,580 --> 00:41:05,720
All right.

553
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:06,780
Thank you.

554
00:41:06,860 --> 00:41:07,840
This is a public hearing.

555
00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:10,560
Is there anyone from the public who would like to speak on this item?

556
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,900
Not working on eyes of motion from Councilman Armstrong.

557
00:41:16,180 --> 00:41:19,160
Motion to approve item H2.

558
00:41:20,300 --> 00:41:22,600
I'm sorry. Motion to close the public hearing.

559
00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:23,640
Yeah, I was with you, Councilman.

560
00:41:23,820 --> 00:41:26,960
I was close. Yeah, we'll close the public hearing if the Councilman

561
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:27,620
Brennan will second.

562
00:41:28,060 --> 00:41:29,800
I second to close the public hearing.

563
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,600
We have a motion to second. Let's vote.

564
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:38,740
All right, Councilman Armstrong, your motion.

565
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,620
Now, I motion to approve H2 as presented.

566
00:41:44,020 --> 00:41:44,780
Thank you, sir.

567
00:41:45,180 --> 00:41:45,800
Councilman Rankly.

568
00:41:45,980 --> 00:41:47,020
Mr. Mayor, I second.

569
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,080
Thank you, sir.

570
00:41:48,220 --> 00:41:50,300
We've motion to second. Let's vote on H2.

571
00:41:54,540 --> 00:41:54,920
All right.

572
00:41:55,380 --> 00:41:57,660
Plats approved. Thanks everyone for going through the process.

573
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,380
And being here this evening, I think it's a good outcome.

574
00:41:59,380 --> 00:42:01,200
So thanks for working through it.

575
00:42:03,140 --> 00:42:04,260
H3 is a public hearing as well.

576
00:42:04,420 --> 00:42:07,540
It's considered an ordinance of proving a specific use permit

577
00:42:07,540 --> 00:42:10,320
for equal tavern to operate an indoor entertainment facility

578
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,820
in an existing lease space on approximately 3.11 acres

579
00:42:13,820 --> 00:42:15,660
on the lower side of car parkway located

580
00:42:15,660 --> 00:42:17,780
approximately 220 feet north of the car parkway

581
00:42:17,780 --> 00:42:20,200
in borderland intersections intersection.

582
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:21,960
Legally described as a lot of seven-hour block

583
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,860
via the Sun Glen subdivisions on the retail

584
00:42:23,860 --> 00:42:26,480
and address 721 car parkway unit 100.

585
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:31,940
Eval Tavern, the applicant, evergreen, Furn, LTD is the owner.

586
00:42:32,820 --> 00:42:33,200
Thank you, Mayor.

587
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:35,700
Have the aerial and zoning maps.

588
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,580
Subject properties zone retail.

589
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:44,720
Quick reminder on the UDC definition for an indoor entertainment facility.

590
00:42:45,500 --> 00:42:46,720
Some background on this request.

591
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,600
It was brought to the attention of city staff that the existing restaurant was operating with

592
00:42:51,020 --> 00:42:51,660
pool tables.

593
00:42:52,420 --> 00:42:56,300
And the applicant was notified of the SAP requirement to operate as an indoor

594
00:42:59,670 --> 00:43:08,490
The business will continue operating as a restaurant, no expansion of the building, or change the primary use of the property is proposed as part of this request.

595
00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:15,290
The request to SUP is solely to authorize the indoor entertainment facility use associated with these amusement devices.

596
00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:22,140
Subject property again is zone retail and designated mix to use on the city's future land use plan

597
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:33,980
As are the properties to the north the properties to the east are designated retail commercial to the south mixed use and retail commercial and to the west semi public

598
00:43:35,820 --> 00:43:41,920
July 30 at the city melt out 25 letters to all property owners within 300 feet the subject site

599
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,340
staff has received no public feedback and response to the request

600
00:43:45,340 --> 00:43:50,460
The August 11th, Pying and Zoning Commission meeting commissioners recommended denial of the

601
00:43:50,460 --> 00:43:52,380
SP request by a vote of 3 to 2.

602
00:43:54,420 --> 00:43:58,760
Again, the request is for an SPP to operate in an indoor entertainment facility for

603
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:06,960
Eagle Tavern and the retail zoning district and again, reminder of the UDC criteria for

604
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:12,940
considering an SPP request that I read in my previous presentation and the council has the

605
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:24,000
If you have any questions, staff and the applicant are available.

606
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:25,480
Thanks, Calvin.

607
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:27,780
This is a public hearing.

608
00:44:28,220 --> 00:44:31,260
Would anyone from the public like to speak on item H3?

609
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:32,560
All right, seeing none.

610
00:44:32,700 --> 00:44:33,480
We'll recognize the motion.

611
00:44:33,700 --> 00:44:34,340
We got one.

612
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:35,020
Oh, yeah.

613
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:35,400
Go ahead, sir.

614
00:44:35,540 --> 00:44:35,920
Sorry, machine.

615
00:44:42,010 --> 00:44:45,910
And looking at the prex that's for a restaurant.

616
00:44:45,910 --> 00:44:53,170
says that a restaurant can have a city of color says a restaurant can have some entertainment

617
00:44:53,170 --> 00:44:54,050
items.

618
00:44:54,170 --> 00:44:58,170
I don't think I don't understand how two pool tables could bring them out of compliance

619
00:44:58,170 --> 00:44:58,970
of being a restaurant.

620
00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:05,720
I don't understand why they would need a special use for that.

621
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:12,640
I have no objection to the special use, but I was just curious why this would be a necessity,

622
00:45:12,900 --> 00:45:13,840
which is two pool tables.

623
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:15,580
Good feedback.

624
00:45:17,300 --> 00:45:18,040
That's all I've got.

625
00:45:18,500 --> 00:45:19,120
Thank you, sir.

626
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,000
Would anyone else from the public like to speak?

627
00:45:25,500 --> 00:45:26,500
Councilman Will?

628
00:45:30,340 --> 00:45:31,180
Yes, Mr. Mayor.

629
00:45:32,500 --> 00:45:39,780
Sarah, to that gentleman's point, can you clarify, you know, why, in this instance, we're requiring an

630
00:45:39,780 --> 00:45:46,060
SUP if the zoning to early, the land use destination for restaurant under the development

631
00:45:46,060 --> 00:45:51,260
code allows for a certain amount of gaming or entertainment.

632
00:45:51,820 --> 00:45:56,480
So, while staff looks at up, let's go and recognize the mayor pro-times motion on the public hearing.

633
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:58,700
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

634
00:45:58,700 --> 00:46:01,620
We close the public hearing on item H3.

635
00:46:01,820 --> 00:46:02,520
Here, I'll second.

636
00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:03,700
Take a vote.

637
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:08,080
All right.

638
00:46:08,460 --> 00:46:09,340
Public hearing is closed.

639
00:46:09,860 --> 00:46:11,680
Councilman Wolf's point.

640
00:46:12,580 --> 00:46:13,260
Sarah, what are your thoughts?

641
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,300
So I'd have to look up the specific hood references.

642
00:46:17,820 --> 00:46:21,440
He's talking about the definition for restaurant in the UDC.

643
00:46:21,700 --> 00:46:23,440
Does it have anything about entertainment?

644
00:46:23,940 --> 00:46:27,220
It just mentions where people are eating at a restaurant.

645
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,820
Erin and I had quite a few conversations about this.

646
00:46:31,820 --> 00:46:34,300
on in particular and went back and forth a little bit.

647
00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:40,020
We have in-color traditionally required businesses that we're putting in just pool tables to

648
00:46:40,020 --> 00:46:45,800
do the indoor entertainment because it is a service beyond just a traditional restaurant.

649
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,740
Also is called out in the indoor entertainment definition that's on the screen and so I think

650
00:46:53,740 --> 00:46:57,360
that's kind of where our decision has hinge is that in the restaurant definition I don't

651
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,920
have anything that says these other devices are allowed, but those are clearly called out

652
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,320
in the end, we're entertainment definition.

653
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:05,300
Thank you.

654
00:47:05,300 --> 00:47:08,200
How do you revisit the definition at some point in the future though?

655
00:47:08,540 --> 00:47:08,580
No.

656
00:47:08,580 --> 00:47:09,320
I just want clarification.

657
00:47:09,780 --> 00:47:10,160
Thank you.

658
00:47:10,580 --> 00:47:16,560
And I had a one question about the land use in that one slide that we looked at.

659
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:24,120
I was just trying to understand the, maybe the theory behind having those two properties designated

660
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:31,820
is mixed use when it's a strip mall. It's probably only going to be retail commercial at

661
00:47:31,820 --> 00:47:37,260
ever. So there's kind of curious why we have that as mixed use.

662
00:47:37,780 --> 00:47:43,000
I can't speak to that. It's been like this since the 2021 flood was adopted. I think probably

663
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:49,480
I'll remember that is something definitely on our radar for doing some refresh to in certain areas

664
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,740
like this where maybe it doesn't quite make sense so we're not quite sure what the reasoning

665
00:47:52,740 --> 00:47:58,960
behind it was will get revised either in this instance to retail commercial or whatever council

666
00:47:58,960 --> 00:47:59,940
thinks is most appropriate.

667
00:48:00,780 --> 00:48:01,660
Thank you.

668
00:48:03,410 --> 00:48:03,950
All right.

669
00:48:03,950 --> 00:48:04,750
Good questions, Mayor.

670
00:48:04,990 --> 00:48:05,450
Folks, I'm.

671
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:06,510
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

672
00:48:06,970 --> 00:48:11,670
I, for staff, I say maybe in the future because we have so much stuff right now in a backlog.

673
00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:17,490
Maybe next year, looking at do this because I think, you know, there is a line, obviously

674
00:48:17,490 --> 00:48:22,730
between restaurants and entertainment venue but also in some cases that are obviously we don't

675
00:48:22,730 --> 00:48:23,750
need extra red date.

676
00:48:24,170 --> 00:48:27,710
maybe we can empower staff to make that distinction more clearly,

677
00:48:27,950 --> 00:48:30,330
like we can make it easier for you to do that.

678
00:48:30,550 --> 00:48:32,790
So maybe next year, when we catch up on some of these

679
00:48:32,790 --> 00:48:34,430
of the backlogs, we can get to that item.

680
00:48:35,110 --> 00:48:36,310
Erin, do you want to comment on that?

681
00:48:36,310 --> 00:48:38,210
Because I know you were heavily involved in this one,

682
00:48:38,290 --> 00:48:39,470
in terms of the indoor entertainment,

683
00:48:40,130 --> 00:48:40,490
SUP.

684
00:48:45,210 --> 00:48:46,030
Well, I don't need a response.

685
00:48:46,050 --> 00:48:48,070
I was just saying in the future we can discuss it.

686
00:48:48,070 --> 00:48:49,130
Sorry, I wasn't looking up.

687
00:48:49,130 --> 00:48:50,530
I was just saying, as a council,

688
00:48:50,730 --> 00:48:52,970
we need to empower y'all if we think it's too much red tape.

689
00:48:53,970 --> 00:48:55,110
Yeah, I'm not saying you didn't think wrong.

690
00:48:55,110 --> 00:49:01,130
And I was saying we counsel need to clarify it, if we think it does or just leave it, if we agree.

691
00:49:01,650 --> 00:49:02,110
All right.

692
00:49:02,110 --> 00:49:02,530
Understood?

693
00:49:04,130 --> 00:49:07,250
I blame everyone on the 2020 when Flock Committee personally.

694
00:49:08,050 --> 00:49:08,850
Wait, I was on that one.

695
00:49:09,130 --> 00:49:09,750
Never mind.

696
00:49:10,970 --> 00:49:11,550
Councilman Armstrong.

697
00:49:12,250 --> 00:49:13,950
My question is going to be for staff as well.

698
00:49:14,190 --> 00:49:17,350
On the two dissenting votes on approval from PNZ,

699
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:20,750
I don't care who they were, but the reasons do you recall?

700
00:49:20,750 --> 00:49:21,510
I

701
00:49:24,300 --> 00:49:31,460
don't, there was a public comment that evening with concern, and this was from a public,

702
00:49:31,460 --> 00:49:35,280
from the public, this was on a commissioner, with concern that an SEP for indoor entertainment

703
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:43,700
doesn't limit the way it's proposed, it doesn't limit them from changing the nature of

704
00:49:43,700 --> 00:49:48,400
the business to be less restaurant and more pool hall or more heavy on the entertainment

705
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,320
side.

706
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,800
So there were some concerns with that.

707
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,440
The applicant was also unable to attend P&Z.

708
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,880
So that's always a concern for the commission when they're not,

709
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,780
they're not there to answer questions about the business.

710
00:50:00,140 --> 00:50:08,480
I think there were some concerns about the gaming machines that have been installed that are still being reviewed by the police department.

711
00:50:10,820 --> 00:50:13,100
Good question. Is the applicant here tonight?

712
00:50:15,420 --> 00:50:19,040
Hey, I have a quick question for you, sir. If you don't mind, step in forward.

713
00:50:20,180 --> 00:50:23,840
Yeah, just so they can hear you on the YouTube live stream.

714
00:50:23,980 --> 00:50:27,980
Mr. Mayor, could I have a follow-up with Sarah's response just now?

715
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:39,040
So the quick question I had was probably too part, one, how many pool tables are you looking to do?

716
00:50:39,780 --> 00:50:40,740
Just those two.

717
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:41,520
Just two.

718
00:50:42,020 --> 00:50:43,120
And then do you have any opposition?

719
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:54,100
Because one of the things we can do to kind of clear it up is just put a condition on your specific use permit that basically says we're limiting it to two pool tables.

720
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:55,720
Would that be agreeable to you?

721
00:50:55,720 --> 00:51:00,820
Just two weeks fine. Yes, two weeks fine. Okay, fine. Yeah, I know it's probably a little bit a little bit about it. What is it?

722
00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:06,300
I think it's even pretty good. Yeah, I think I feel like I was not going to come here and meet in that all.

723
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,200
You know, just sign whatever you want to do even to take out, you know.

724
00:51:10,500 --> 00:51:14,980
No, we're excited to have you here and all I was going to say is really appreciate you kind of going through the process.

725
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:22,080
I think you'll be wise just for clarity, say, just to make that recommendation that we're just talking about two pool tables.

726
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,740
but Councilman, well, did you have a follow-up?

727
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,040
You actually hit my nail on the head.

728
00:51:28,460 --> 00:51:30,000
I can't go off with.

729
00:51:30,220 --> 00:51:31,200
It won't smile, hit one.

730
00:51:32,380 --> 00:51:35,000
Okay, so Mayor Pro time?

731
00:51:35,540 --> 00:51:36,740
Yeah, maybe we disagree.

732
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,360
Y'all can make a motion to amend.

733
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,140
I was going to move to approve H3 as presented.

734
00:51:41,540 --> 00:51:42,900
I don't think we need the red tape.

735
00:51:43,060 --> 00:51:47,000
It isn't big enough to really become a pull-hall, but if y'all want to amend it, that's fine.

736
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,520
But my motion is to approve it as presented.

737
00:51:50,300 --> 00:51:55,580
Well, Cody Thorns in the audience with the community impact and he knows I can't resist an opportunity to amend a motion like that.

738
00:51:56,660 --> 00:51:58,200
So I will make a motion to amend.

739
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:08,240
Now the way it works out will be fine. Item H3. So that way the specific use permit is limited to two pool tables as the applicants requested.

740
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,900
And so procedurally we'll vote on that.

741
00:52:11,620 --> 00:52:14,380
But I have to get a second. Is there a second on that motion?

742
00:52:17,470 --> 00:52:19,970
All right, we have a motion in the second.

743
00:52:20,270 --> 00:52:21,870
Mayor Pro time, you're welcome to vote for this one as well.

744
00:52:22,430 --> 00:52:25,330
If you vote for clarification, if you vote against this, you can still vote.

745
00:52:25,330 --> 00:52:26,350
We're going to vote on the amendment.

746
00:52:27,410 --> 00:52:31,950
First, and then if that succeeds, then there's no further action necessary,

747
00:52:32,010 --> 00:52:33,570
because we'll have approved the item.

748
00:52:34,390 --> 00:52:37,910
If it, for some reason, fails, then we'll consider the Mayor Pro time's motion.

749
00:52:38,610 --> 00:52:39,810
And it's a point, we'll make sure.

750
00:52:40,870 --> 00:52:44,370
All right, so everyone clear on the motion or the amendment to the motion.

751
00:52:44,790 --> 00:52:45,710
All right, let's vote.

752
00:52:45,710 --> 00:52:46,190
All

753
00:52:51,730 --> 00:52:57,950
right, that passes for to thank you for coming in tonight, thank you very much.

754
00:52:58,810 --> 00:52:59,850
Thank you.

755
00:53:05,720 --> 00:53:05,900
All right.

756
00:53:05,980 --> 00:53:07,880
Next up is item H4.

757
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,900
Consider resolution approving a special exception to the C of calorie UDC.

758
00:53:15,650 --> 00:53:19,790
Article 9, development standards, section 9.05, sign regulations for chalk and seal.

759
00:53:19,930 --> 00:53:23,370
And indoor entertainment facility for the existing 7,000-310 square foot lease space.

760
00:53:23,370 --> 00:53:26,910
On approximately 1.4 acres, located approximately 560 feet north east.

761
00:53:26,910 --> 00:53:29,170
With the intersection of Berlin Road and Clark Parkway,

762
00:53:29,210 --> 00:53:33,070
Lee glues describes Block A, Lot 4A, of the Schemwell edition.

763
00:53:34,190 --> 00:53:36,310
So on the retail and address $7.161, Clark Parkway,

764
00:53:36,310 --> 00:53:39,230
you know, 104, John Abrams, the applicant, MD Associates,

765
00:53:39,230 --> 00:53:40,270
LLC, is the owner.

766
00:53:40,690 --> 00:53:43,370
This is not a public hearing, so we get right to the staff presentation.

767
00:53:43,990 --> 00:53:44,430
Thank you, Mayor.

768
00:53:44,570 --> 00:53:45,370
Good evening, Council.

769
00:53:46,050 --> 00:53:48,290
Ariel and Zona Matt, before you subject property is Zona

770
00:53:48,290 --> 00:53:49,010
to retail.

771
00:53:50,210 --> 00:53:53,110
Chuck and steel co-recently have the recipe request approved

772
00:53:53,110 --> 00:53:55,170
on June 16th of this year to operate

773
00:53:55,170 --> 00:53:58,950
as an indoor entertainment facility at 761 COC Parkway Unit 104.

774
00:53:59,670 --> 00:54:03,750
They are now coming before you requesting a special exception to allow for two signs

775
00:54:03,750 --> 00:54:05,970
on the front facade of their lease space.

776
00:54:06,210 --> 00:54:11,230
UDC sign code states that one attached sign, building elevation or lease-based elevation,

777
00:54:12,290 --> 00:54:15,530
visible from a public street or with a public entrance is committed.

778
00:54:16,050 --> 00:54:19,830
Attached wall signs must be located minimum of one foot from the edge of the lease space.

779
00:54:20,490 --> 00:54:25,130
Their other request is to allow for signs to be composed of materials that are not listed

780
00:54:25,130 --> 00:54:29,830
in the EDC. EDC states that all permanent signs shall be constructed of quality materials,

781
00:54:30,070 --> 00:54:34,550
including aluminum, masonry, stone, brick, stucco, multiplastics and acrylic.

782
00:54:36,590 --> 00:54:37,050
As I mentioned,

783
00:54:37,210 --> 00:54:40,970
they are proposing two signs on the front elevation of their building. Both of those signs

784
00:54:40,970 --> 00:54:46,110
would meet the EDC requirements for an attached wall sign if submitted independently. And both

785
00:54:46,110 --> 00:54:50,370
signs are facing black and white and include digitally printed vinyl graphics and a

786
00:54:50,370 --> 00:54:54,390
luminer back up panel and the letters and borders will be constructed of high

787
00:54:54,390 --> 00:54:59,970
performance vinyl. EDC special exception does not require a public hearing switch.

788
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:05,900
Public hearing notifications were sent out, public had an opportunity to speak on this agenda item during persons to be heard.

789
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:14,660
At the August 11th, 2026, PNZ Commission meeting, commissioners recommend approval of SESUPR request by vote of 50.

790
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:23,420
Section 9.05 B4A of the UDC list criteria for approval of a special exception to the signed code.

791
00:55:24,020 --> 00:55:30,740
Whether the requested exception will not adversely affect public safety, whether the requested exception will not adversely affect surrounding properties,

792
00:55:30,740 --> 00:55:36,000
whether the requested exception will be in harmony, whether special conditions exist, which

793
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:40,820
are unique to the applicant, whether the requested exception demonstrates increased quality

794
00:55:40,820 --> 00:55:44,980
and standards, and whether the requested exception will be aesthetically appropriate in

795
00:55:44,980 --> 00:55:45,600
that area.

796
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:52,100
Again, the two requests before this evening is to allow for two attached wall signs on the

797
00:55:52,100 --> 00:55:56,300
front facade of the building and to allow for the use sign materials that are not listed

798
00:55:56,300 --> 00:55:58,860
as approved material specified by the UDC.

799
00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:05,080
Council has the following options when considering UDC special exception, approve with the request

800
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:10,460
of special exceptions, approve of modifications, table, or deny, and staff and the applicant

801
00:56:10,460 --> 00:56:11,560
are here for any questions.

802
00:56:12,220 --> 00:56:12,500
Thanks, Ethan.

803
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:15,600
All right.

804
00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:17,220
This is not a public hearing.

805
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,500
If you have a question, Councilman Wolfe?

806
00:56:21,620 --> 00:56:22,200
Yes, Mr. Mayor.

807
00:56:23,980 --> 00:56:24,800
Maybe I missed it.

808
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:25,380
I was looking.

809
00:56:25,380 --> 00:56:36,920
It just says that we're looking for approval to use something other than what's listed, but it doesn't say actually what the sign is going to be composed of so do we know

810
00:56:41,460 --> 00:56:45,520
I may have missed it, but I don't see in the presentation.

811
00:56:46,780 --> 00:56:56,880
Yes sir, so material that they're proposing is vinyl and high performance vinyl. Both of those are not listed in the UDC is quality materials, so those are the two requests.

812
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,040
All right, thank you.

813
00:57:02,190 --> 00:57:02,910
Thanks, Councilman.

814
00:57:02,910 --> 00:57:03,790
Councilman Armstrong.

815
00:57:05,870 --> 00:57:09,250
Being in the location that this place is going to be, they're going to need some help on

816
00:57:09,250 --> 00:57:09,890
signage.

817
00:57:11,350 --> 00:57:17,570
It's tucked back behind Sonic and a couple other restaurants and the signage looks really

818
00:57:17,570 --> 00:57:20,450
good and hopefully it'll draw you a bunch of people back there if it passes.

819
00:57:21,210 --> 00:57:23,430
So I think you need all the signage you can get back there.

820
00:57:27,230 --> 00:57:31,870
We have any, so if the quality materials just because our UDC doesn't list it as a quality

821
00:57:31,870 --> 00:57:33,690
material doesn't mean it's not a quality material.

822
00:57:33,690 --> 00:57:37,930
So what are the thoughts on the quality of the material if you don't give any insights or

823
00:57:48,650 --> 00:57:49,930
They're proud of their work

824
00:57:50,890 --> 00:57:55,970
The things that are going to be they're going to be printed on a particular type of

825
00:57:55,970 --> 00:57:56,670
Biomaterial

826
00:57:58,050 --> 00:58:01,450
That you're looking at the eight ball and the

827
00:58:02,210 --> 00:58:05,110
Dart dart board those two items

828
00:58:06,610 --> 00:58:08,790
The only two ways of making are

829
00:58:08,790 --> 00:58:14,290
General or vinyl or have a hand painted if they're hand painted. I can't afford the signs

830
00:58:15,050 --> 00:58:16,430
select about

831
00:58:16,430 --> 00:58:18,430
$8,000 to

832
00:58:19,170 --> 00:58:22,850
paint and eight ball in a chalkboard and a

833
00:58:22,850 --> 00:58:24,310
darkboard

834
00:58:25,070 --> 00:58:26,730
the sand maker

835
00:58:27,630 --> 00:58:36,690
Sure's us that the material will last at least it will be in its pristine condition for a minimum of ten years at

836
00:58:36,690 --> 00:58:47,590
10 years, we'll probably start to see some decay and faded of those items at that time

837
00:58:47,590 --> 00:58:54,150
where I'm told is we can, they can come out, reprint those, take those off and put

838
00:58:54,150 --> 00:58:58,030
new ones on, and they'll be good for another 10 years.

839
00:58:58,930 --> 00:59:02,150
It's a commonly used material, okay.

840
00:59:03,270 --> 00:59:06,010
It's great. Thank you for that. Mayer-Protein?

841
00:59:06,230 --> 00:59:09,190
Yeah, just add that we have the same discussion at the sports park.

842
00:59:09,450 --> 00:59:11,370
We're looking at the difference between painting and vinyl.

843
00:59:11,870 --> 00:59:15,610
I think it'll be fine. I agree with Councilman Armstrong's point.

844
00:59:16,650 --> 00:59:17,490
Anything else for me?

845
00:59:17,590 --> 00:59:18,070
No, sir.

846
00:59:18,230 --> 00:59:21,970
Thank you. We have a motion from Councilman Armstrong.

847
00:59:23,810 --> 00:59:24,930
Motion to approve.

848
00:59:25,650 --> 00:59:26,770
Item H4.

849
00:59:27,790 --> 00:59:29,370
All right. Thank you, sir. Councilwoman Brennan.

850
00:59:29,370 --> 00:59:31,090
And I second the motion.

851
00:59:31,530 --> 00:59:32,750
All right, we have a motion in a second.

852
00:59:32,910 --> 00:59:33,390
Let's vote.

853
00:59:38,210 --> 00:59:39,010
All right, that passes.

854
00:59:39,570 --> 00:59:40,730
Thanks for coming in.

855
00:59:41,110 --> 00:59:43,090
And again, we're excited to have you here in the city of

856
00:59:43,090 --> 00:59:43,270
Keller.

857
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:46,300
Thank you, sir.

858
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:49,040
H5.

859
00:59:49,540 --> 00:59:51,180
Is the Public Security Center an ordinance

860
00:59:51,180 --> 00:59:53,160
approving amendments to the city of

861
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,380
Keller unified development code adopted by

862
00:59:55,380 --> 00:59:57,360
ordinance number 1746.

863
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:58,940
Data July 7, 2015 by

864
00:59:58,940 --> 00:59:59,840
Mending Article 8.

865
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:07,000
Being to automobile electric charging stations, providing penalties, authorizing publication and establishing an effective date.

866
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:08,920
Thank you, Mayor.

867
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:17,300
So, back around here, as part of the comprehensive 2015 UDC update,

868
01:00:17,860 --> 01:00:24,520
the use automobile electric charging stations was added to the use charts for the neighborhood services, retail,

869
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:29,860
Old Town Keller Town Center and Town Center Medical Zoning Districts.

870
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:35,080
At that time, the use was designated as requiring a specific use permit in the Town Center

871
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:40,360
Town Center Medical and the Main Street Subdistrict of the Old Town Keller Zoning District.

872
01:00:41,060 --> 01:00:46,440
While designated as permitted by right in the retail neighborhood services and neighborhood

873
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,820
subdistrict of the Old Town Keller Zoning District.

874
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:55,700
The proposed amendment would modify the use charts of the retail neighborhood services and

875
01:00:55,700 --> 01:01:01,020
neighborhood sub-district to require a specific use permit for automobile electric charging

876
01:01:01,020 --> 01:01:01,900
stations.

877
01:01:04,420 --> 01:01:09,940
So, you can see that proposed change in the use charts here for the retail neighborhood

878
01:01:09,940 --> 01:01:13,320
services and neighborhood sub-district of T.K.

879
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:22,440
table. Based on a change recommended by the planning and zoning commission, there would also be

880
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:28,320
the stipulation in the neighborhood sub-district use chart that states that the SCP is not required for

881
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:33,800
automobile electric charging stations at single family homes within the neighborhood sub-district.

882
01:01:36,390 --> 01:01:40,670
So again, the proposed amendment would change,

883
01:01:40,850 --> 01:01:43,130
I don't want to be electric charging stations from permitted

884
01:01:43,130 --> 01:01:46,410
to specific use permit required in the retail neighborhood

885
01:01:46,410 --> 01:01:49,730
services and old town-keller neighborhood sub-district

886
01:01:49,730 --> 01:01:50,830
zoning districts.

887
01:01:52,860 --> 01:01:55,180
At the August 11 planning and zoning commission meeting,

888
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,280
commissioners unanimously recommend that approval

889
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,920
of the proposed amendments with the condition that the SUP

890
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:02,800
requirement does not apply to single family homes

891
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,140
within the neighborhood sub-district of the OTTK zoning district.

892
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:17,220
And a amendment to the tax to the UDC requires a public hearing notice to be published in the local newspaper 15 days prior to the schedule of planning and zoning commission meeting date.

893
01:02:17,540 --> 01:02:24,600
The notice for the city council public hearing was published in the August 16th, 2026 edition of the fourth star telegram.

894
01:02:25,220 --> 01:02:29,660
And staff has not received any comments from the public regarding the proposed UDC amendments.

895
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:36,280
City Council has the following options when considering this amendment, approve as submitted,

896
01:02:36,380 --> 01:02:43,980
approve of modifications or additional conditions, table or deny. If you have any questions,

897
01:02:44,420 --> 01:02:45,500
staff is available.

898
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:51,020
Awesome. Thank you. So, this is a public hearing.

899
01:02:51,580 --> 01:02:56,300
What anyone from the public like to discuss item H5.

900
01:02:59,780 --> 01:03:01,200
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

901
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,880
I'm moving we close the public hearing on item H5.

902
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:05,720
Thank you, Councilwoman Brennan.

903
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:06,340
I'll second.

904
01:03:06,860 --> 01:03:08,500
Motion to second, let's vote.

905
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:10,460
Public hearing is closed.

906
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,460
I just want to briefly acknowledge the Mayor

907
01:03:16,460 --> 01:03:19,040
Pro Tem for bringing this item forward.

908
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,800
I think it's important that we create a path.

909
01:03:22,260 --> 01:03:25,120
For folks to live work and play in gallery,

910
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,060
but there are times where we have to have quality controls.

911
01:03:28,060 --> 01:03:34,860
and so this is I think a good time for that and I'll be in favor of this item.

912
01:03:35,620 --> 01:03:36,500
Councilwoman Brennan.

913
01:03:36,940 --> 01:03:40,020
You're just a question for staff real quick, I'm also in favor of this item.

914
01:03:40,060 --> 01:03:45,320
I believe this is in reaction to the electric charging stations that were placed at the

915
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:49,800
Walmart that we all didn't really realize we're going to be there and they were allowed

916
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:56,260
by right because it was considered retail and so this would then require that they would

917
01:03:56,260 --> 01:04:00,560
I'm in front of City Council next time, something like that comes up.

918
01:04:01,060 --> 01:04:10,140
That is correct. We do have one application that was received before the UDC ordinance was even started.

919
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:22,780
That I don't know that we can retroactively apply the SUP application to the particular application that is under review right now is much farther from the road in a retail parking lot.

920
01:04:22,780 --> 01:04:27,760
But everything else going forward would have to come to Council.

921
01:04:28,260 --> 01:04:29,820
Okay, as an SGP.

922
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:31,800
Can I ask who's the applicant?

923
01:04:33,540 --> 01:04:35,400
It's actually the property.

924
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:41,200
It's adjacent to the Croger over here, but it's not Croger.

925
01:04:41,260 --> 01:04:43,120
It's actually the property that a few years ago.

926
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:48,240
Council did a zoning change to kind of carve out a donut hole of retail in the middle of town center.

927
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,080
Otherwise, they wouldn't be allowed to do the station.

928
01:04:52,740 --> 01:04:58,360
And when we did that vote, we were actually curing some of the medical use issues if I recall.

929
01:05:00,050 --> 01:05:04,630
If we're talking about the same area, I think that's why the property was re-zoned, right?

930
01:05:05,110 --> 01:05:14,650
I don't remember. It's been over five years since the re-zone. It's just an unusual little spot of retail that's surrounded on all sides by town center.

931
01:05:14,650 --> 01:05:19,870
Yeah, I think, you know, maybe we can, yeah, that's, that was the medical

932
01:05:19,870 --> 01:05:23,890
um, to the manager showing me a map, you know, for whatever it's worth from a

933
01:05:23,890 --> 01:05:28,210
council perspective, basically what happened is there were

934
01:05:28,210 --> 01:05:34,110
sweets that were outfitted with medical equipment and then the zoning

935
01:05:34,950 --> 01:05:38,690
changed underneath those, those owners and those occupants feet.

936
01:05:40,190 --> 01:05:46,370
a couple at least once spot when vacant with the investment of medical, and then it wouldn't

937
01:05:46,370 --> 01:05:46,790
vacant.

938
01:05:47,390 --> 01:05:48,830
What is it?

939
01:05:48,830 --> 01:05:52,770
It used to be vacant for more than six months or a year, I think it's six months.

940
01:05:53,250 --> 01:05:57,010
Yeah, so they're vacant longer than six months, and so we had this medical building that

941
01:05:57,010 --> 01:05:58,350
wasn't allowed for medical uses.

942
01:05:58,970 --> 01:06:04,670
And so to cure that issue, we rezoned it so that way there wouldn't be as much red tape

943
01:06:04,670 --> 01:06:06,370
It seems to be a theme of this meeting.

944
01:06:08,090 --> 01:06:11,670
However, it also opened the door for this application, apparently.

945
01:06:13,050 --> 01:06:13,690
Who's the owner?

946
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:21,540
Right now.

947
01:06:22,100 --> 01:06:23,040
I don't have it off to my mind.

948
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:27,960
Probably the same folks that we, so I'll chat with you off, I'll find about it, Sarah.

949
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,380
So that way we can, I can get a few more questions answered.

950
01:06:32,420 --> 01:06:33,140
Thank you.

951
01:06:33,420 --> 01:06:34,220
Did you hear your question answered?

952
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:34,820
Yeah.

953
01:06:34,820 --> 01:06:35,280
All right.

954
01:06:35,340 --> 01:06:35,800
May I put some?

955
01:06:36,180 --> 01:06:36,460
Yeah.

956
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:37,540
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

957
01:06:37,540 --> 01:06:41,960
Thanks to the manager and the mayor for helping move this long.

958
01:06:42,060 --> 01:06:44,920
I shouldn't say for those listening, every system's out there.

959
01:06:45,060 --> 01:06:50,240
The concern was multi-focused public safety, no matter whether it's a refueling station

960
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:54,320
for a combustion engine or a electric vehicle.

961
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:59,380
We want to make sure it has safety noticing and also a safety component on off switch.

962
01:07:00,020 --> 01:07:04,160
Things of that nature and also to let consumers know that they can park in those spots.

963
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,660
Most of, like, if you go over here,

964
01:07:07,660 --> 01:07:09,500
I'm gonna lose my mind, this is on right here.

965
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:11,220
Right here, Senator.

966
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:12,280
Thank you, town center.

967
01:07:13,220 --> 01:07:15,580
And if you park there, it says that anyone's allowed

968
01:07:15,580 --> 01:07:17,160
to park there, but they are for charging.

969
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,020
That way, some of the smaller restaurants of businesses

970
01:07:20,020 --> 01:07:23,400
aren't affected in a million or eight,

971
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:24,060
they're concerns.

972
01:07:24,700 --> 01:07:28,080
But also, just any type of charging station

973
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,680
for the environment and all of the reasons listed above

974
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:32,920
were what led to this.

975
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:37,920
So, just for y'all's edification with that, I'd like to move to approve item H5.

976
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,860
So, we're recognized, is there a second?

977
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:41,880
Councilman will?

978
01:07:42,020 --> 01:07:42,600
I second.

979
01:07:43,020 --> 01:07:43,220
All right.

980
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,080
We have a motion in a second.

981
01:07:46,020 --> 01:07:46,240
All right.

982
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:47,220
Let's vote on H5.

983
01:07:53,150 --> 01:07:53,170
Okay.

984
01:07:53,170 --> 01:07:53,790
That passes.

985
01:07:54,230 --> 01:07:55,050
Thanks again, Mayor Pro.

986
01:07:55,050 --> 01:07:56,250
It's time for bringing that forward.

987
01:07:56,710 --> 01:07:58,110
It's a good work on behalf of the City of Color.

988
01:07:58,910 --> 01:08:04,010
With that, no consideration of H6 is necessary, because it's duplicative, so we'll go ahead

989
01:08:04,010 --> 01:08:10,170
But recess briefly and then start our work session in about three minutes.

990
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:17,920
Question.

991
01:08:20,620 --> 01:08:21,280
SDRs.

992
01:08:21,300 --> 01:08:22,620
Discuss this issue.

993
01:08:24,140 --> 01:08:28,140
Discuss this issue a couple of times over the past few years.

994
01:08:28,980 --> 01:08:35,700
My recollection from the last update was that Council essentially asked staff to do some work and

995
01:08:35,700 --> 01:08:40,040
in the issue, and so I think if I'm understanding it, right, Sarah's bringing forward some of her

996
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:41,280
findings tonight, is that all right, Sarah?

997
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:42,000
Yes, Sarah.

998
01:08:42,060 --> 01:08:42,460
All right.

999
01:08:42,860 --> 01:08:44,340
My point here is.

1000
01:08:44,660 --> 01:08:50,160
So a brief recap, we have not actually drafted right-election language yet, but I'm looking

1001
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:54,100
for tonight is some direction on specific parts of how you want that to be.

1002
01:08:55,440 --> 01:09:00,240
And then we can do a subsequent work session, and we can go straight to P&Z, whatever next

1003
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,900
that Council wants to do at the beginning of the start of the final.

1004
01:09:03,740 --> 01:09:08,920
So, on 2020, we're a handful of work sessions with the Council and the PC level,

1005
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,060
and we're just testing the adoption of SCR regulations.

1006
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:16,920
We've got as far as the PZ actually made the presentation on

1007
01:09:17,580 --> 01:09:22,280
some draft ordinance language, but ultimately Council decided not to take any action

1008
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:24,140
if you remember at that time.

1009
01:09:24,140 --> 01:09:32,800
Several cities were going through lawsuits related to their regulations and I think the

1010
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:37,380
killer position was to kind of watch and see if she would have had going.

1011
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:43,640
We revisited the item back in May of this year, that's when Comple has Mayor MacLumanschins

1012
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:48,100
directed to have to do some more research and begin preparing for adopting regulations

1013
01:09:48,100 --> 01:09:49,260
and later this fall.

1014
01:09:50,140 --> 01:09:58,440
So since then, we did two input meetings we met with folks that are concerned or have been

1015
01:09:58,440 --> 01:09:59,960
personally impacted by...

1016
01:10:00,180 --> 01:10:30,160
May be right next door or in the vicinity of a short term rental. And just folks that are concerned about the issue in general, so we had an input meeting back in June with those folks, just listening at the sat-level octings and generic questions. But I really just wanted to listen to them their experiences and what they have found because a lot of them are a lot of information about what's in other cities. We also did a meeting in August where we reached out to local SCR operators, so folks that are color-residents.

1017
01:10:30,180 --> 01:10:33,400
but also own and operate for terminals within the city.

1018
01:10:33,620 --> 01:10:35,640
So we did that meeting in August, the same format.

1019
01:10:35,900 --> 01:10:37,860
We just did a lot of listening at the Seth level.

1020
01:10:39,180 --> 01:10:40,920
As in generic questions on how they felt

1021
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,320
about different things and what their experience had been.

1022
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,720
But again, really primarily listening from the Seth perspective.

1023
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,680
In addition to those, we met with the League Council

1024
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,340
of the Texas Neighborhood Coalition.

1025
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:56,820
That's the group that I'm sure all of you have talked to Mr. Schlegel.

1026
01:10:57,140 --> 01:10:58,860
He's been very involved with.

1027
01:10:58,860 --> 01:11:00,900
and that group has been incredibly involved

1028
01:11:01,700 --> 01:11:03,620
with mobilizing a lot of communities

1029
01:11:03,620 --> 01:11:06,780
and drafting the ordinances across the state.

1030
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,400
We're related to short-term rental regulations.

1031
01:11:09,780 --> 01:11:11,820
I mean, I also spent a good deal of time

1032
01:11:11,820 --> 01:11:13,260
reading other cities ordinances,

1033
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,240
and then a lot of time with the staff

1034
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,860
from gray vining in our age in particular

1035
01:11:17,860 --> 01:11:20,720
in our age has probably the most recently adopted regulations

1036
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,280
that have some pretty good stuff

1037
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,000
in it that seems appropriate for color.

1038
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:31,220
Not to duplicate, but good reference for sure.

1039
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:37,260
So as I mentioned today, we're seeking some direction on specific parts of what we might.

1040
01:11:37,660 --> 01:11:45,260
So guidelines to say, so starting off with the definition, pretty consistently across most cities.

1041
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:51,720
It's some sort of rental, you know, that first language kind of varies here and there, but it's always less than 30 days.

1042
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:53,020
It's pretty consistent.

1043
01:11:54,220 --> 01:12:00,220
And then I think we want to be clear that the ordinance is going to apply to property

1044
01:12:00,220 --> 01:12:03,960
even if it's owner occupied, investor owned, doesn't matter.

1045
01:12:04,340 --> 01:12:08,760
All of these regulations would apply the same if you're renting the property for fee.

1046
01:12:13,060 --> 01:12:19,960
This is a topic definitely want to get some council input on how we want to write this in terms of allowable locations.

1047
01:12:20,660 --> 01:12:25,600
I put three options up here, but really there's probably several others, some kind of combination of a few of these.

1048
01:12:26,820 --> 01:12:31,640
So first, looking at only allowing SCRs in certain districts, so examples might be

1049
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:37,460
old Tom Keller or multi-family, this option could exclude all the single-family districts.

1050
01:12:38,780 --> 01:12:43,880
And just to note, if we allowed it in multi-family, that would of course be in the

1051
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,260
discretion of the property owner.

1052
01:12:46,480 --> 01:12:50,320
We could also write something in that it was limited to a certain percentage of the units

1053
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:56,020
and a boy having, maybe, an apartment complex that has a majority of her terminals.

1054
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:03,700
Option two, you could allow SCRs and certain districts, kind of like an option one,

1055
01:13:03,980 --> 01:13:11,960
plus single-family neighborhoods if they're already operating to continue to operate in a single-family

1056
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:12,420
neighborhoods.

1057
01:13:12,440 --> 01:13:18,460
They would need to meet some requirements to achieve a grand-bothered status, and that grandfather

1058
01:13:18,460 --> 01:13:25,080
that is could be non-transferable to a new property owner that would be a decision from the

1059
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:25,880
Council.

1060
01:13:26,420 --> 01:13:32,140
In order to enhance the model that they did, a lot of path for grandfathering for existing

1061
01:13:32,140 --> 01:13:35,760
operators, but they have made it where it's non-transferable.

1062
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:40,600
So ultimately the long term, in fact, is going to be no short term rentals in their single

1063
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:41,360
family districts.

1064
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:47,300
Third option would be SCP approval by city council.

1065
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:52,540
We could apply that across the board to all zoning districts or only to single family districts.

1066
01:13:53,480 --> 01:13:56,840
So maybe you'll dial them by right and places like Old Town or multi-family,

1067
01:13:57,020 --> 01:14:00,540
but if it's in a single family district, you have to get an SGB.

1068
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:06,760
Current operators would need to either be grandfathered or would have to come in and apply for that SGB.

1069
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:12,520
So I don't know if we want to pause for a moment Mayor and discuss this one of them

1070
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,100
to go through, there's only a few more slides.

1071
01:14:15,260 --> 01:14:16,060
I'd like to get through it.

1072
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:16,820
Yeah.

1073
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:17,780
Good question.

1074
01:14:19,820 --> 01:14:25,320
Um, draft registration requirements, annual fee for each property, um, when you need a constant

1075
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:29,880
information for the owner and a local emergency contact, um, that can be on site with,

1076
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:35,020
uh, within a certain period of time, uh, want to support plan and survey well, the parking

1077
01:14:35,020 --> 01:14:41,840
is going to be something that tells them the parking can't be anywhere then in the garage

1078
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:46,660
driveway or the curb that's immediately adjacent to the home, in the initial year they

1079
01:14:46,660 --> 01:14:51,700
would have to acknowledge the requirement to permit hot taxes and then in subsequent years

1080
01:14:51,700 --> 01:14:56,500
staff would confirm that they had been paying their hot taxes every month.

1081
01:14:58,260 --> 01:14:59,960
Infections would be required annual.

1082
01:15:01,580 --> 01:15:03,160
So, I'm sorry I don't have a question.

1083
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:03,240
I'm sorry to be a person.

1084
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,260
Sorry to interrupt. Well, I'm not sorry.

1085
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:06,880
And no one's ever sorry of that, or I'm not.

1086
01:15:10,020 --> 01:15:12,020
I'm not sorry to interrupt you.

1087
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:12,800
Bye bye.

1088
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:17,060
I'm about to take that, I'm about to take that.

1089
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:17,640
For example.

1090
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,900
Well, for the late 19th of October, all right.

1091
01:15:23,420 --> 01:15:27,820
So, I remember from 2020 to that we were discussing possibly

1092
01:15:27,820 --> 01:15:33,740
like staff capacity to monitor the hot-to-act is that still an issue or

1093
01:15:36,090 --> 01:15:39,650
I think some of it's gonna depend on which method you go so if we're being

1094
01:15:39,650 --> 01:15:43,050
extra restricted then we could probably do it internally but if we're gonna look at

1095
01:15:43,050 --> 01:15:48,050
an option that allows it in multiple areas as GP we probably would look at a third

1096
01:15:48,050 --> 01:15:53,750
party to monitor that that also allows them to have some companies that we'll

1097
01:15:53,750 --> 01:15:59,270
also be that able to form the collection and then also very point-placed

1098
01:15:59,270 --> 01:16:01,830
if there's complaints, they can go and complain to that.

1099
01:16:01,830 --> 01:16:04,470
That third party vendor, so there's a system at that.

1100
01:16:05,150 --> 01:16:08,270
So, corrects a general good oversight of the program.

1101
01:16:09,030 --> 01:16:12,350
So, again, I think it's been, we dependent on how restricted

1102
01:16:12,350 --> 01:16:16,550
we want to be versus, and don't monitor all STRs as well.

1103
01:16:16,870 --> 01:16:18,830
That is also not necessarily part of it.

1104
01:16:18,970 --> 01:16:24,210
Because as they would, look at the, look at the various websites

1105
01:16:24,210 --> 01:16:27,670
to figure out who is actually renting out whether they registered

1106
01:16:27,670 --> 01:16:29,570
or not, and then a report activist.

1107
01:16:29,890 --> 01:16:30,130
Okay.

1108
01:16:30,590 --> 01:16:32,130
So then it's the hot tax pay for that.

1109
01:16:32,290 --> 01:16:32,590
You're sorry.

1110
01:16:33,210 --> 01:16:33,910
You're the hot tax for that.

1111
01:16:34,930 --> 01:16:35,670
You didn't mention that.

1112
01:16:35,730 --> 01:16:36,710
I just thanks for the pressure.

1113
01:16:39,750 --> 01:16:43,130
So some restrictions will want to put on.

1114
01:16:43,150 --> 01:16:46,330
Churcherminal is absolutely no external signage anywhere.

1115
01:16:47,050 --> 01:16:47,430
On the property.

1116
01:16:47,770 --> 01:16:49,290
No more than two guests per bedroom.

1117
01:16:50,430 --> 01:16:51,870
Plus two additional guests.

1118
01:16:52,010 --> 01:16:52,430
That's allowed.

1119
01:16:52,530 --> 01:16:55,670
So if you have a living room with a below so far or something like that.

1120
01:16:55,670 --> 01:16:58,970
It's still limits the number of folks in the home.

1121
01:17:00,010 --> 01:17:03,070
This language on Alphore gatherings and Amplified Music

1122
01:17:03,650 --> 01:17:04,930
put it in italics.

1123
01:17:05,030 --> 01:17:06,570
You find something similar in some cities.

1124
01:17:06,810 --> 01:17:07,330
Ornances.

1125
01:17:08,210 --> 01:17:10,030
She fortunate and I talked about it a little bit.

1126
01:17:10,270 --> 01:17:11,650
It made me better to actually delete

1127
01:17:11,650 --> 01:17:13,870
and just rely on the noise ordinances

1128
01:17:14,350 --> 01:17:16,910
and everything else we already have in the code

1129
01:17:16,910 --> 01:17:19,170
for officers that are responding.

1130
01:17:21,030 --> 01:17:21,770
Later in the evening,

1131
01:17:22,550 --> 01:17:24,630
it's also difficult to find an Alphore gathering

1132
01:17:24,630 --> 01:17:28,230
is that just the family of four that's staying there or is that a certain number of people

1133
01:17:28,230 --> 01:17:36,330
that you can start getting pretty deep into the weeks on that one and then some cities have

1134
01:17:36,330 --> 01:17:43,330
a three strikes in your out system for substantiated by violations we put it just two here.

1135
01:17:43,330 --> 01:17:45,350
And you say substantiated what does that mean?

1136
01:17:45,990 --> 01:17:51,930
It means that most likely the police department it could be co-compliance in terms of what it's

1137
01:17:51,930 --> 01:17:57,410
most likely the police department is called out to the site and confirmed that they're in violation

1138
01:17:57,410 --> 01:18:01,030
of either something in the city code or at this moment.

1139
01:18:01,810 --> 01:18:08,150
So they're basically concerned, confirming that it's not just some angry neighbor who just

1140
01:18:08,150 --> 01:18:11,110
keeps calling in complaints, frivolously, to...

1141
01:18:11,890 --> 01:18:12,010
Yeah.

1142
01:18:12,070 --> 01:18:17,270
Because if we did it just based on the number of calls, it would likely be unfair to the owner.

1143
01:18:17,490 --> 01:18:17,830
Yeah.

1144
01:18:17,830 --> 01:18:18,470
of the situation.

1145
01:18:18,570 --> 01:18:19,090
It's your question.

1146
01:18:19,110 --> 01:18:27,010
I was thinking about it from the, you know, there are STR operators that are very responsible

1147
01:18:27,010 --> 01:18:32,570
and they're obviously not, but if you're responsible operator and the grass is one week

1148
01:18:32,570 --> 01:18:35,830
a little bit too high and then, you know, you know, you get a coat of compliance.

1149
01:18:37,870 --> 01:18:42,510
That's what I'm going to make sure it wasn't like trying to understand the level of scrutiny

1150
01:18:43,090 --> 01:18:45,290
with, when we say it, it's instantiated.

1151
01:18:45,730 --> 01:18:46,150
Complaining?

1152
01:18:46,150 --> 01:18:53,170
I think it would lean more towards the guidelines and the ordinance, I don't think we would be looking to shut down.

1153
01:18:53,430 --> 01:18:56,310
And we can definitely firm this up in the actual language.

1154
01:18:56,310 --> 01:19:02,250
We wanted to be very specific to violations of the requirements and restrictions in this ordinance.

1155
01:19:02,590 --> 01:19:02,930
Because sure.

1156
01:19:02,990 --> 01:19:11,510
I don't think the intent would be to, you know, if we were to allow for terminals to shut them down over one call over grassman a little bit too high.

1157
01:19:11,510 --> 01:19:17,970
Maybe we just reference worlds and the code is that you could just reference the certain section.

1158
01:19:18,430 --> 01:19:27,510
Because I know that we go in sometimes and we write some of the code that's duplicate and repeat it rather than repeating it again.

1159
01:19:28,850 --> 01:19:30,410
We could always just reference a section.

1160
01:19:30,710 --> 01:19:34,870
So if that section later changes, we'll just have to go back and change this.

1161
01:19:35,430 --> 01:19:35,990
Sure.

1162
01:19:41,670 --> 01:19:48,450
And we include this option for somebody has their registration report, so there would be

1163
01:19:48,450 --> 01:19:53,630
an appeal process through the CDA, but the CDA is well positioned to do this type of appeal.

1164
01:19:53,910 --> 01:19:58,930
They're already charged with hearing appeals to the decision of an administrative official

1165
01:19:58,930 --> 01:19:59,850
or code interpretation.

1166
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:05,920
Which happens from time to time? So that was our suggestion here.

1167
01:20:06,060 --> 01:20:09,800
One out, just that was advocate, one out, P&Z.

1168
01:20:13,510 --> 01:20:29,270
We certainly could. The reasoning behind CBA is because the UDC already specified CBA as the appeal for if you're unhappy with a decision by an administrative official from the city or co-interpretation, there are hearing means of fields.

1169
01:20:29,270 --> 01:20:30,630
That's a judicial law.

1170
01:20:30,990 --> 01:20:31,910
It's quasi-judicial.

1171
01:20:32,090 --> 01:20:36,390
And then also the decision of the EVA can't be overturned by the bill of council.

1172
01:20:37,070 --> 01:20:39,710
If you want to appeal that, ask for the district court.

1173
01:20:40,770 --> 01:20:43,570
That's why I kind of was like ordering a ballot for that reason.

1174
01:20:44,550 --> 01:20:46,730
That's interesting policy thought.

1175
01:20:47,630 --> 01:20:50,850
So, but we bottom line is we have flexibility, the EVA or P&Z.

1176
01:20:51,670 --> 01:20:52,310
We have to be both.

1177
01:20:53,090 --> 01:20:53,670
Have you got any idea?

1178
01:20:55,350 --> 01:21:16,670
So, like I mentioned, we can do another work session at the next meeting, but actually it would be October 16th before we can actually get a full section of the code written for review, or if you guys want to skip the work session, we will get the language drafted and go ahead and start a scheduling half the PNC.

1179
01:21:17,530 --> 01:21:18,770
I have a question.

1180
01:21:19,090 --> 01:21:20,450
I have three or two pills.

1181
01:21:21,010 --> 01:21:22,550
They support us at the past.

1182
01:21:23,130 --> 01:21:25,930
They have a minimum to stay in requirement at the past two days.

1183
01:21:26,650 --> 01:21:27,870
Can we add a save in here?

1184
01:21:28,930 --> 01:21:29,230
Or just what?

1185
01:21:29,850 --> 01:21:31,690
Greater than earlier, less than 30.

1186
01:21:32,170 --> 01:21:32,670
No, no.

1187
01:21:32,670 --> 01:21:33,570
You do a part in it, too.

1188
01:21:33,810 --> 01:21:34,770
I said just one night.

1189
01:21:35,090 --> 01:21:36,090
We have to be at least two nights.

1190
01:21:36,350 --> 01:21:38,330
So we consider that.

1191
01:21:38,370 --> 01:21:39,790
We can certainly include that.

1192
01:21:39,890 --> 01:21:44,610
Some of the advice we got from the Texas Average Coalition was to pay advice against it.

1193
01:21:44,610 --> 01:21:51,130
It's just another thing that you could end up possibly getting so helpful and also what the

1194
01:21:51,130 --> 01:21:53,850
concern is that you're the one that inverses tonight.

1195
01:21:54,050 --> 01:21:59,270
Well, I think a lot, based on the conversation we have with the local operators, a lot

1196
01:21:59,270 --> 01:22:03,690
of them are already doing that, the requiring a two-night minimum say, the ones that are operating

1197
01:22:03,690 --> 01:22:10,410
properties in color and the reason is by requiring that like we can bomb non-point, I say it eliminates

1198
01:22:10,410 --> 01:22:13,370
It's a lot of the folks that want to run a house for one night for a party.

1199
01:22:14,690 --> 01:22:17,550
So be an expensive party because they get a really good opportunity.

1200
01:22:20,350 --> 01:22:20,710
Okay.

1201
01:22:21,790 --> 01:22:26,090
How would that would be a suggestion a two-night minimum two-night same?

1202
01:22:26,290 --> 01:22:31,070
I mean, I think I don't know, maybe I'll end up being wrong, but I think we can knock this out right now

1203
01:22:31,070 --> 01:22:33,110
and just don't illustrate the P&C personally.

1204
01:22:34,390 --> 01:22:36,950
But what are thoughts, Council on?

1205
01:22:37,530 --> 01:22:42,130
The direction you want to go, I mean I've been pretty clear from the get-go that I just

1206
01:22:42,130 --> 01:22:42,930
I don't know.

1207
01:22:43,290 --> 01:22:46,810
Based on both qualitative quantitative feedback, I'm going to take action.

1208
01:22:47,010 --> 01:22:49,070
I'd be much more inclined for three.

1209
01:22:49,170 --> 01:22:51,490
That's your figure out, but I don't know what you guys think.

1210
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:54,620
Are we concerned?

1211
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:56,300
We could be concerned legally.

1212
01:22:56,540 --> 01:22:58,140
I mean if we just outright ban.

1213
01:22:58,440 --> 01:23:00,660
I mean, I'm off for grandfathering.

1214
01:23:00,740 --> 01:23:01,780
The ones that we exist.

1215
01:23:02,440 --> 01:23:05,620
But making them apply and get them on the record, all that.

1216
01:23:05,620 --> 01:23:11,440
But for brand new STRs and residential areas, are we open to legal action?

1217
01:23:11,580 --> 01:23:26,340
Because I think there's been some cases in the state of Texas, Austin, particularly where that was an issue because of personal property rights and an ability for an individual to do what they want to but they're landed that doesn't want to lay for long.

1218
01:23:26,780 --> 01:23:30,700
So that's what I wonder if that part of it would be a problem for the city.

1219
01:23:31,740 --> 01:23:38,140
Yeah, I think you debit path forward that's feasible, I'm ready to list six of them.

1220
01:23:38,180 --> 01:23:40,260
I think an hour out of the van will be a concern.

1221
01:23:41,140 --> 01:23:41,260
Yes.

1222
01:23:43,390 --> 01:23:44,070
It was a good question.

1223
01:23:45,090 --> 01:23:47,450
I don't know if you might want to call people when we get a thing.

1224
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,240
I mean, as it relates to the three options, you have an instinct.

1225
01:23:54,780 --> 01:23:55,420
You like one?

1226
01:23:59,850 --> 01:24:02,450
I just kind of curious about the process.

1227
01:24:02,650 --> 01:24:07,310
So it's a reason why we wouldn't want to do another work session before this goes to P&Z.

1228
01:24:07,310 --> 01:24:16,870
in like right it out. Let's see what it looks like. Yeah. Yeah, mainly to get their feet back because ultimately we're going to get

1229
01:24:16,870 --> 01:24:24,250
What would we be sending? I guess that's to Karen so why not? We would give. Yeah, so we would give policy direction,

1230
01:24:24,670 --> 01:24:31,010
big picture, direction to Sarah tonight. So that way, you know, if we want to go with the SEP or out,

1231
01:24:31,550 --> 01:24:37,290
then she could start working on that language and present it to P&Z. They could all tighten it up and then we'd reconsider it.

1232
01:24:39,810 --> 01:24:46,330
We can only do another work session, we can do five work sessions, so it's just kind of inside our discretion.

1233
01:24:48,130 --> 01:24:54,230
But because this is already our second work session with this council on it, I was thinking, why would we need four bytes of the apple?

1234
01:24:54,430 --> 01:24:55,790
I think three is enough, but that's just me.

1235
01:24:57,830 --> 01:24:59,950
I guess my opinion is that one of the right options is that

1236
01:25:00,110 --> 01:25:12,050
We have one more city council in the work session, where we all look at it and read it and then say, yeah, that's good, that's just a minute to be in a seat.

1237
01:25:13,030 --> 01:25:15,230
All right, we're here late.

1238
01:25:15,750 --> 01:25:22,370
What was the consensus out of the group that looked at this?

1239
01:25:22,750 --> 01:25:27,830
Which one did they have another three options, but which one did they lead in the courts?

1240
01:25:28,670 --> 01:25:39,070
So, that's what I wanted tonight was direction on one of these options, and then we can take whichever option council is leaning towards a metal we're going to actually write, because this isn't code language.

1241
01:25:41,850 --> 01:25:44,790
So, you didn't answer my question.

1242
01:25:44,910 --> 01:25:46,250
Well, I don't have any answer.

1243
01:25:46,890 --> 01:25:48,230
I have a person in the job.

1244
01:25:49,450 --> 01:25:51,450
So, what they would say now is a problem.

1245
01:25:51,850 --> 01:25:52,590
They don't want to be pregnant.

1246
01:25:52,850 --> 01:25:53,050
Sure.

1247
01:25:53,050 --> 01:25:59,190
you could speak to it, I think we were the one council at the time of Chris was, my recollection

1248
01:25:59,190 --> 01:26:04,010
from 2022 with a long story short essentially that there was just wasn't a whole lot of empirical

1249
01:26:04,010 --> 01:26:11,390
data to support taking action. We actually heard from a high volume of, and I'm talking to

1250
01:26:11,390 --> 01:26:16,910
citywide, yes, they're documented, individual instances, no question about that, and I was arguing

1251
01:26:17,850 --> 01:26:25,060
But 2022, the thought was, you know, see why there's some isolated instances, let's try to attack it through the forcement.

1252
01:26:25,950 --> 01:26:31,080
That was the, and also the other issue, you know, waking up now was that's worth with the HOA's.

1253
01:26:31,890 --> 01:26:39,930
So I do work with Bill, some of the HOA is to say, you know, if you guys want to say the action, then you know, you absolutely can't.

1254
01:26:40,070 --> 01:26:45,250
So some of them did my understanding, but that's, that's where we landed in the 2022.

1255
01:26:45,250 --> 01:26:50,990
There's a lot of folks here who've got some emails from them that unsolicited emails

1256
01:26:50,990 --> 01:26:56,970
anyway that spoke to that and said, hey, well, it appears operators in color that are

1257
01:26:56,970 --> 01:27:02,010
believe that the individual, excuse me, that wrote today, she had a good line, it was something

1258
01:27:02,010 --> 01:27:07,370
the effect of, you know, let's not run you, let's not basically punish the good apples, that

1259
01:27:07,370 --> 01:27:08,010
was a complaint.

1260
01:27:08,710 --> 01:27:13,770
But let's all say, absolutely, we believe this is an SDR operator and her point was, let's

1261
01:27:13,770 --> 01:27:17,490
absolutely take action on those that are not operating in good faith.

1262
01:27:17,930 --> 01:27:21,110
So, that's why I was, that kind of gets integration.

1263
01:27:21,450 --> 01:27:22,070
I like her letter.

1264
01:27:22,410 --> 01:27:25,050
That kind of gets to your question about, you know,

1265
01:27:26,490 --> 01:27:29,950
being Sarah didn't necessarily have a chance to propose these three options

1266
01:27:29,950 --> 01:27:33,530
to any of the subgroups, but that's kind of where we were at 2022.

1267
01:27:34,850 --> 01:27:40,130
That being said, you know, there was some communications with folks in the HRSA more,

1268
01:27:40,130 --> 01:27:45,730
but it's still an issue and so I was promised to be able to put on the agenda and others did as well.

1269
01:27:46,050 --> 01:27:52,770
So we have an agenda, I think the intensity action, you're with one, you're with three, I'm with three,

1270
01:27:54,210 --> 01:28:00,510
probably think. I think if I were the king of Calder and do whatever I wanted, I would lean more towards the one,

1271
01:28:01,070 --> 01:28:06,440
but I think number two does a really good job of splitting the baby on this one.

1272
01:28:06,440 --> 01:28:36,420
It doesn't allow any new SDRs in neighborhoods and doesn't overly burden the people who are already operating if they're operating in good faith, and it gives us an option to hold them accountable if they aren't operating in good faith or creating problems, districts and eventually it will eventually lead to one thing.

1273
01:28:36,440 --> 01:28:41,080
at some point because those properties will change hands at some point in the grandfather status

1274
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,860
would not be transferable to the new property owner.

1275
01:28:44,660 --> 01:28:47,900
So it would eventually become a single-family residence again.

1276
01:28:48,460 --> 01:28:53,860
Because that is the, I mean, again, and I said the last time we discuss this is, I don't know

1277
01:28:53,860 --> 01:28:57,980
how we get around the fact that it's single-family residential zoning.

1278
01:28:58,900 --> 01:29:03,560
The implication in that very name is that it is somebody's primary residence.

1279
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:11,440
it is their home, and they have some buy-in to that neighborhood because it is their home.

1280
01:29:13,890 --> 01:29:19,710
Again, I think it's Council could go put a health in the middle of hidden lakes if we

1281
01:29:19,710 --> 01:29:23,290
wanted to, but we're not because it is a neighborhood where people live.

1282
01:29:24,170 --> 01:29:33,430
And I don't understand how homes are suddenly become hotels, and it's just all the neighbors

1283
01:29:33,430 --> 01:29:37,770
problems to deal with all the problems that come with that.

1284
01:29:38,350 --> 01:29:40,010
They should just suck it up and live with it.

1285
01:29:40,070 --> 01:29:43,590
It is apparently the opinion of some people.

1286
01:29:44,730 --> 01:29:47,610
So I think number two because we're a really good job of

1287
01:29:48,590 --> 01:29:50,950
allowing people who are currently operating.

1288
01:29:58,920 --> 01:29:59,960
I think...

1289
01:30:00,270 --> 01:30:15,870
I think it leaves it up to the council, the will of the council, and if council wakes up tomorrow and decides they want to do something different, then it, I think it just adds up resulting in a weakened portion.

1290
01:30:15,870 --> 01:30:23,130
So can I add that comment on three yeah, I would just add one thing when I say because I need to touch up my own comment

1291
01:30:23,130 --> 01:30:27,390
And then jump right to here. I would uh I would just say I'm for three

1292
01:30:28,250 --> 01:30:33,370
But it's your column with some actual accountability like it's a revoltable

1293
01:30:34,050 --> 01:30:39,210
SUV and if there's so you can incorporate which one has the two strikes you're outruled

1294
01:30:40,710 --> 01:30:44,870
Yeah, so if if they don't follow their instructions, all right

1295
01:30:46,530 --> 01:30:51,370
but I were already talking about how late we're going to be here and if it's just a texture,

1296
01:30:52,630 --> 01:30:56,510
I don't think it comes to us. They're not coming to us because they're nice. They're probably

1297
01:30:56,510 --> 01:31:00,970
going to have an issue we might have at us. I don't think we need this counselor any other former

1298
01:31:00,970 --> 01:31:06,310
future counsel to have to deal with like that on a one-on-one basis created entity that already says

1299
01:31:06,310 --> 01:31:13,610
here's where it's at once it's gone. Like two says and deal with it. So they will come to us on the

1300
01:31:13,610 --> 01:31:18,270
good on, right? Because they have to, but they would go to ZBA when they're bad

1301
01:31:18,270 --> 01:31:22,410
after. So we would do what that sort of deal with the bad actors, because they'd be

1302
01:31:22,410 --> 01:31:28,750
penalized, revolve, and go to ZBA, but we're already here a long time, and I'm trying to

1303
01:31:28,750 --> 01:31:33,450
get stuff off the work session. We'd have a PhD in the room. If I may, and I think I

1304
01:31:33,450 --> 01:31:37,270
understood your, your question a little bit, I haven't presented these three options

1305
01:31:37,270 --> 01:31:41,370
to, to any group. Council of P and Z, that's what I thought you were asking. We did

1306
01:31:41,370 --> 01:31:44,190
asked a lot of questions of the different groups.

1307
01:31:44,730 --> 01:31:46,670
And I don't want to spend, I mean, we had a lot of the individuals

1308
01:31:46,670 --> 01:31:49,630
on those groups, and so I'm summarizing, I'm sure there are

1309
01:31:49,630 --> 01:31:50,310
different opinions.

1310
01:31:50,650 --> 01:31:53,110
But I think the first group, the concerned group,

1311
01:31:53,170 --> 01:31:55,210
you know, people that have been impacted by SCRs,

1312
01:31:55,330 --> 01:31:57,550
I think that overall response I got was,

1313
01:31:58,010 --> 01:32:00,310
they would love to see an overall ban,

1314
01:32:00,690 --> 01:32:02,090
but they also understand that we pull.

1315
01:32:02,130 --> 01:32:05,790
In fact, it's basically, it goes in fact, it's basically,

1316
01:32:05,790 --> 01:32:09,490
yes, they would like to see the total ban and single family

1317
01:32:09,490 --> 01:32:14,790
understand the legal implications. For the operators, they were generally opposed to the

1318
01:32:14,790 --> 01:32:21,410
SUP process because they're concerned about the public hearing notification to people

1319
01:32:21,410 --> 01:32:27,750
that in their words to folks that may not even know that they live next to R2 and SCR,

1320
01:32:27,870 --> 01:32:33,330
but then we'll be opposed to it just because it's an SCR. Again, I'm really paraphrasing and

1321
01:32:33,330 --> 01:32:35,330
summarizing the input we got at those meetings.

1322
01:32:35,330 --> 01:32:39,850
I'm going to give feedback on the SCP from operators as I can neighbors actually is interesting.

1323
01:32:40,970 --> 01:32:42,230
All right. That's helpful.

1324
01:32:43,810 --> 01:32:49,410
So, how do these like three allowable options? Do we have, well, we obviously do for the

1325
01:32:49,410 --> 01:32:54,770
moments, yeah, right, man. But then for the others, do we have any examples in surrounding

1326
01:32:54,770 --> 01:32:55,270
municipalities?

1327
01:32:56,830 --> 01:33:04,070
So, two is very similar to North Virgin Hills where they have allowed, and actually it's okay.

1328
01:33:09,090 --> 01:33:30,490
So, they grandfathered, they were assisting operating SCRs, if they met certain criteria, they had to come in and register, they had to get infected, they had to get right with two years of contact, all that kind of stuff, but they put in there that it was non-transferable, again, so ultimately, there won't be any SCRs in single family zoning.

1329
01:33:30,490 --> 01:33:36,030
But they are allowing them under certain conditions and multi-family, and then they have some non-residential

1330
01:33:36,030 --> 01:33:38,930
areas and transit oriented development where they're allowing them.

1331
01:33:39,430 --> 01:33:42,310
So, two is probably the most like reference in health.

1332
01:33:42,410 --> 01:33:43,710
What's wrong with the Rono option?

1333
01:33:45,190 --> 01:33:50,810
Because can you revoke their registration if their like council could just spit out the policy criteria?

1334
01:33:51,810 --> 01:33:56,470
And then if they violate their choice, then it was their registration.

1335
01:33:58,890 --> 01:34:00,330
Is that a viable rule?

1336
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:03,420
I think that would.

1337
01:34:04,220 --> 01:34:04,580
I think it's a good thing.

1338
01:34:05,060 --> 01:34:07,400
So I mean, I would say it is a viable, I think,

1339
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:11,760
probably opens up more than maybe consoles

1340
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,960
intended to give in the situation the citizen concerns.

1341
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:17,000
So that thing that was dodged.

1342
01:34:17,020 --> 01:34:18,020
Logically, depending on the SUV,

1343
01:34:18,260 --> 01:34:20,180
it comes before you, you're aware of it, you know,

1344
01:34:20,300 --> 01:34:23,160
where they are, you have a saying, well,

1345
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:24,280
yeah, that's the sense or not.

1346
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:27,300
This with, I mean, with the right guidelines,

1347
01:34:28,100 --> 01:34:29,360
you could do a registration option,

1348
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:31,800
but more likely you will be allowing

1349
01:34:32,340 --> 01:34:37,480
anywhere in the city that isn't banned by the H.O.A., but didn't have to follow the rules and then to that.

1350
01:34:37,620 --> 01:34:40,740
Well, they're already, I guess, my point is they're already allowed today, correct.

1351
01:34:41,480 --> 01:34:46,420
So, we have registration and the pay taxes, then to Council on Armstrong's point,

1352
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:51,520
which I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but you're like, hey, why do we need all this on our agenda

1353
01:34:51,860 --> 01:34:57,200
in summary? And I'm like, well, so that way we could have some accountability.

1354
01:34:58,060 --> 01:35:00,000
I'm just wondering if that's, I don't know, what do you guys think?

1355
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:10,880
Hi, I'll give you a month. Can you go back to the three options? For me, actually, I think our jigs are full in the work session, exactly. I think out there we're actually okay. I could be the only one.

1356
01:35:13,060 --> 01:35:27,520
Yeah, originally, I like number two, because selfishly, if I buy a house in a single family home zone area, I don't expect for, you know, an SDR to be there. However, you know, I don't know if everyone's a chance to reach something email is like, there's one family.

1357
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,800
elderly couple like their house either burnt down or something and so they were able to

1358
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:37,000
stay in color because they could use STR for a longer term. I originally I wasn't a fan of

1359
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:43,200
this stuff but I think we've all seen situations rare situations where maybe a sub would help

1360
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:48,280
a family or even a neighborhood that's okay with it. It could be a neighborhood of only three houses

1361
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:51,860
on it. I mean there's just different scenarios. So I'm actually kind of leaning towards number

1362
01:35:51,860 --> 01:35:58,060
three now where the mayor was, but I did like I'm fine with number two as well, but I don't

1363
01:35:59,100 --> 01:35:59,860
I'm going.

1364
01:35:59,900 --> 01:36:01,240
Okay, the number three will come.

1365
01:36:01,460 --> 01:36:01,700
I'm sorry.

1366
01:36:01,900 --> 01:36:02,760
The number three.

1367
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:09,180
Okay, says here, current offers you there would be, I would say number three, but they

1368
01:36:09,180 --> 01:36:12,560
would have to, just like that you say that the people that are already in an operating

1369
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:19,440
SDR would have to go through the process and make sure that they, the Santa smile would

1370
01:36:19,440 --> 01:36:19,560
work.

1371
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:29,040
So they would have to go to the SOP process because they're already an STR but they would have to pass all the requirements that we're now putting on the STR.

1372
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:30,400
That's part of numbers three.

1373
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:32,540
I would want direction.

1374
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:40,740
If we go to the SOP route, do you want to make all of the current operators get an SOP to continue operating or do you want to grandfather?

1375
01:36:40,900 --> 01:36:41,240
I don't know.

1376
01:36:41,340 --> 01:36:42,680
Are we allowed to do that?

1377
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:44,000
I don't think we could do that.

1378
01:36:45,260 --> 01:37:01,740
We create a registration process under number 30, so that current operators can register, but not necessarily have to go through the SGP process as long as they're registered and they're meeting the requirements that we put in place.

1379
01:37:02,940 --> 01:37:07,640
And obviously wouldn't lose their grandfather's status because they're operating in good faith.

1380
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:09,740
And then...

1381
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:11,840
But...

1382
01:37:13,540 --> 01:37:14,280
To extract you.

1383
01:37:15,620 --> 01:37:16,580
You're on a good state.

1384
01:37:16,780 --> 01:37:19,060
If you stop there, you're in your good spot.

1385
01:37:19,460 --> 01:37:20,060
That's a good thing.

1386
01:37:21,480 --> 01:37:21,940
Yeah, actually.

1387
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:24,040
I also like to keep putting on this.

1388
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:24,880
I'm going to...

1389
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:26,860
We're going to have to say anything.

1390
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:28,060
Can I just say something?

1391
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:30,460
Because I've set up down the last time.

1392
01:37:30,740 --> 01:37:31,680
And I'm going to be out now.

1393
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:37,480
Yeah, so typically, we don't have that, just to be honest with you, because it gets pretty.

1394
01:37:37,480 --> 01:37:38,600
It's pretty quick.

1395
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:43,260
Yeah, I like an answer to the Mayor Prof. James's question first.

1396
01:37:43,500 --> 01:37:49,400
Stan was the answer to the councilman, well, or Mayor Prof. James kind of wants about.

1397
01:37:50,380 --> 01:37:51,500
What can we do legally?

1398
01:37:53,340 --> 01:37:54,940
I guess those two, those are two part of it.

1399
01:37:55,380 --> 01:38:01,000
One, number one, can we require a firm operator to go through the NSUP process?

1400
01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:07,120
But if they're operating legally now, we probably wouldn't want to do that because they

1401
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:12,900
already have a tolerance that you could put rent, station, and criteria to continue.

1402
01:38:13,260 --> 01:38:14,620
What is zoning approval?

1403
01:38:15,140 --> 01:38:21,920
A little bit of a rate of approval, that's coming in the registration inspections, whatever

1404
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:26,380
we would make this a criteria, and that's why we won't want to do it.

1405
01:38:27,820 --> 01:38:29,880
And then you just go ask your people.

1406
01:38:29,980 --> 01:38:31,740
And that's what melted in Hell's Diff by the way.

1407
01:38:31,820 --> 01:38:34,280
I'm looking at their blast in the end of that.

1408
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:34,580
How?

1409
01:38:34,740 --> 01:38:35,180
How?

1410
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:37,920
How would the enforcement action look that?

1411
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:43,720
Because with regard to properties that get an SUV, it would be a revocable SUV

1412
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:45,800
where they could no longer continue to operate.

1413
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:51,140
But if current operators, let's say somebody lost their mind and started having

1414
01:38:51,140 --> 01:38:54,260
papers every Saturday with 500 people in the backyard.

1415
01:38:57,550 --> 01:38:58,190
Because there's no

1416
01:38:58,190 --> 01:39:04,150
S&P in place, how would I guess what would achieve when we had there?

1417
01:39:04,510 --> 01:39:09,350
It would effectively have been the same for itself. You were in violation of our

1418
01:39:09,350 --> 01:39:13,450
words, but it would require you to do that to go to go for or continue.

1419
01:39:14,110 --> 01:39:19,350
So if you didn't make those legal registration compliance requirements, you would

1420
01:39:19,350 --> 01:39:22,990
lose the right. In fact, it would lose your grant for our status.

1421
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:30,980
Thank you. Is that clear? Yes.

1422
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:35,500
It's an important question. I would still like to say that whichever one we decided to choose

1423
01:39:35,500 --> 01:39:42,500
I agree with what Councillor Will said. The main emphasis would be to get back to have a single family

1424
01:39:42,500 --> 01:39:45,380
residential and single family.

1425
01:39:48,530 --> 01:39:49,610
New questions for staff.

1426
01:39:54,630 --> 01:39:57,270
So we don't have this public discussion very much.

1427
01:39:57,270 --> 01:39:59,950
and otherwise, on everything I'll hide on them.

1428
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:19,400
If you get, you know, you can imagine like with, you know, the what's like that's in it here, right? We had how many people just in the stream in that room, and if we have our work sessions, that's what we have, persons that we heard for. That being said, if you have, like, yeah, 30 seconds to a minute, I'll do an informal person to be here.

1429
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:25,860
I think that's beautiful, I don't know, but I just, you know, I have two, I agree with you.

1430
01:40:25,900 --> 01:40:26,420
Thirty seconds.

1431
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:34,960
And I went through my last six months and eighty percent of the people that have stamed with me are actually colour residents.

1432
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:42,700
There are people that have family, there's people that come to me regularly that are at the conservatory,

1433
01:40:42,700 --> 01:40:47,780
their parents are there. I have a couple that are here right now that are moving from

1434
01:40:47,780 --> 01:40:52,880
hazelnut to Calor and they have a six-week period in between houses and this thing

1435
01:40:52,880 --> 01:41:00,640
that the people before that were people that had flooded their property and they needed a place

1436
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:06,740
that three months while they were, you know, well they had to be with this place from that own property

1437
01:41:06,740 --> 01:41:12,680
and 80% of my people are actually Calor residents and it would be really a disorder that

1438
01:41:13,460 --> 01:41:17,860
to make it too difficult. And I'm absolutely with you that there are

1439
01:41:17,860 --> 01:41:22,360
community bad actors out there. And it would be a shame to jeopardize the

1440
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:28,380
recipe because of that. But because I never could get all my neighbors to

1441
01:41:28,380 --> 01:41:31,620
write and write a letter. Okay, so I'm going to I'm going to a little bit of

1442
01:41:31,620 --> 01:41:36,320
Sarah because the points will make you have colorized and it's staying there, you know,

1443
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:40,600
doing a good job. It's a policy. They don't come to her to policy.

1444
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:46,900
No, yeah, so thank you for sharing that and I'll just tell you this like from a public feedback perspective

1445
01:41:46,900 --> 01:41:49,260
We're gonna have multiple bites of the apple

1446
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:54,720
Maybe have multiple more work sessions on it. I'm going to shake my head

1447
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:56,520
Charles can shake his head. Yes

1448
01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:58,080
Yes, well

1449
01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:04,820
Go back and watch the tape and my request is that go back and watch the tape from 2022 because all that information was published online as well

1450
01:42:04,820 --> 01:42:08,940
And it was like what was it shin and like up here and you sharing mark my memory

1451
01:42:08,940 --> 01:42:10,720
It was like an hour and a half discussion.

1452
01:42:11,380 --> 01:42:16,300
So there's been a lot of people feedback and data available for council to consider.

1453
01:42:16,540 --> 01:42:17,660
And it's good data.

1454
01:42:20,450 --> 01:42:20,590
Sir?

1455
01:42:21,310 --> 01:42:26,290
Yeah, I'm just saying that don't, yeah, the nice lady makes some great points, but no one's

1456
01:42:26,290 --> 01:42:27,470
trying to shut that up.

1457
01:42:28,330 --> 01:42:32,610
The suggestion is, if they're grandfathered, like for example,

1458
01:42:39,830 --> 01:42:40,790
and follow the rules,

1459
01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:45,840
what

1460
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:46,680
we don't want.

1461
01:42:50,610 --> 01:42:53,650
So you already know that you can't go any places with taxes.

1462
01:42:56,590 --> 01:42:59,130
So, you can don't go backwards, please.

1463
01:43:00,010 --> 01:43:01,790
And don't want to shutting these down.

1464
01:43:01,990 --> 01:43:02,690
What would you do?

1465
01:43:03,410 --> 01:43:05,470
Follow the ordinances, pay your taxes.

1466
01:43:05,830 --> 01:43:06,390
You'll be fine.

1467
01:43:06,950 --> 01:43:07,130
Yeah.

1468
01:43:07,290 --> 01:43:10,710
And I'll just say, at least three options to staff's credit

1469
01:43:10,710 --> 01:43:13,430
and to the stakeholder credit, all of these,

1470
01:43:13,430 --> 01:43:16,370
any one of the three is a step forward,

1471
01:43:16,430 --> 01:43:17,170
not backwards.

1472
01:43:18,010 --> 01:43:20,850
And so, because it's putting accountability

1473
01:43:21,390 --> 01:43:22,590
into the system.

1474
01:43:23,190 --> 01:43:24,530
So, it's a balancing act.

1475
01:43:24,530 --> 01:43:28,950
To wrap it up though, you'll serve what she needs to move forward.

1476
01:43:29,910 --> 01:43:31,730
Sounds like Shane knows that.

1477
01:43:31,750 --> 01:43:33,770
It came more and more time to look at three.

1478
01:43:33,770 --> 01:43:35,390
You were kind of between two and three.

1479
01:43:35,930 --> 01:43:37,430
You were more or two.

1480
01:43:37,790 --> 01:43:39,370
You were at three.

1481
01:43:39,630 --> 01:43:40,390
I'm at three.

1482
01:43:40,530 --> 01:43:41,510
I'm at two.

1483
01:43:41,510 --> 01:43:42,770
You're at two.

1484
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:44,880
I don't need.

1485
01:43:51,590 --> 01:43:51,930
No, he said.

1486
01:43:52,370 --> 01:43:53,150
I don't know where we're at.

1487
01:43:53,750 --> 01:43:54,810
What's leading right now?

1488
01:43:55,290 --> 01:43:55,750
Two is.

1489
01:43:55,890 --> 01:43:56,310
I don't know.

1490
01:43:57,030 --> 01:43:57,730
It's leading.

1491
01:43:58,170 --> 01:43:58,910
Three is leading.

1492
01:43:59,530 --> 01:43:59,710
Sorry.

1493
01:44:02,190 --> 01:44:03,470
You can make sense.

1494
01:44:06,060 --> 01:44:08,780
My problem with two is it's honestly a back door ban.

1495
01:44:09,180 --> 01:44:10,460
Like that's how it'll be hit.

1496
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:14,120
It's like, okay, you can do your STR,

1497
01:44:14,420 --> 01:44:15,880
and tell me where I'm wrong, sir, and push back,

1498
01:44:16,460 --> 01:44:19,100
I'm a mistake, something, because I don't want to mistake, something.

1499
01:44:19,780 --> 01:44:24,020
But it's basically, okay, you can, you'll be grandfathered,

1500
01:44:24,980 --> 01:44:27,820
but if you sell your property, it can bet you're done.

1501
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:30,920
It'll be the only thing I would point out

1502
01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:33,020
is that when we say certain districts,

1503
01:44:33,020 --> 01:44:36,020
So I'm fully old town and multi-family.

1504
01:44:37,740 --> 01:44:41,580
So those desserts could continue to add STR if,

1505
01:44:41,580 --> 01:44:43,220
you know, at the council discretion.

1506
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:46,100
And like I said, I've got three options up here

1507
01:44:46,100 --> 01:44:47,780
for there's different ways of mixing match,

1508
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:48,780
the different components.

1509
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:52,220
So number two could look like STR is a lot of B-Write.

1510
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:53,640
They still have to register.

1511
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:55,540
They still have to follow all of the guys on it,

1512
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:57,860
but maybe they're allowed to buy right in old town,

1513
01:44:58,040 --> 01:44:59,000
maybe in multi-family.

1514
01:44:59,000 --> 01:44:59,540
Thank you.

1515
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:09,900
I don't know if we have another zoning district that if we make sense so well in my right. And then in the single family neighborhoods, they're grandfathered, but it's not a transferable.

1516
01:45:10,820 --> 01:45:15,200
Which is, that's why I'm like, that's a base clear back door for the single family members.

1517
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:15,860
Okay, all right.

1518
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:17,420
I'm going to have a critical family.

1519
01:45:17,820 --> 01:45:24,880
If the intent is for residential areas to be residences, then that makes sense to me.

1520
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:26,100
Yeah, we can get.

1521
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:28,620
Go watch the 2020.

1522
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:31,820
Where does that air? I was on P&Z at the time.

1523
01:45:31,940 --> 01:45:32,480
Where is it?

1524
01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:33,300
Yep.

1525
01:45:33,860 --> 01:45:36,060
It's encoded by the high school.

1526
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:37,640
So the single family doesn't want to...

1527
01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:39,760
Yeah, and I've never had a single complaint in my day.

1528
01:45:40,020 --> 01:45:42,120
But they were so...

1529
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:46,200
I think what I would do, just so we can move things along, is...

1530
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:47,920
Calcimate, frankly, you've literally said,

1531
01:45:48,100 --> 01:45:48,620
I'm for three.

1532
01:45:48,900 --> 01:45:50,540
So long as we bring it back for a work session.

1533
01:45:50,860 --> 01:45:51,620
Right, Calcimate?

1534
01:45:52,340 --> 01:45:53,160
No, you didn't say that.

1535
01:45:53,340 --> 01:45:54,500
Do you just want to back for a work session?

1536
01:45:54,500 --> 01:46:00,180
So I will look at three, I'll write it up, and then bring it back for a work session is

1537
01:46:00,180 --> 01:46:04,140
something like that's the consensus council, because I think that'll allow us to do a little

1538
01:46:04,140 --> 01:46:09,920
bit deeper dive and look at some of the accountability, you know, some of the meat potatoes

1539
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:16,580
or regulations or the requirements, and then I actually think the requirements are probably

1540
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:19,220
more as important as the process.

1541
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:23,360
Yeah,

1542
01:46:28,340 --> 01:46:40,580
but my hope would be that, sir would basically give us information and then that we'd show up to Council with feedback rather than we're going through the same presentation that makes sense.

1543
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:45,400
And then the base would be with red lineers and then it would go on.

1544
01:46:45,440 --> 01:46:45,740
Yeah.

1545
01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:46,520
Yeah.

1546
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:48,160
And we already have our...

1547
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:50,160
Yeah, exactly.

1548
01:46:50,620 --> 01:46:50,820
Yeah.

1549
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:51,900
You're tracking right?

1550
01:46:51,980 --> 01:46:52,240
Yes, sir.

1551
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:56,660
I just like to make sure we get it moving because it's been kicked down the road unintentionally for

1552
01:46:56,660 --> 01:46:57,600
a long time.

1553
01:46:58,060 --> 01:47:03,800
And we're taking a 1% of that apples and affecting the 99% of the people that are doing good.

1554
01:47:04,020 --> 01:47:07,440
Including elders and people that are staying there.

1555
01:47:07,540 --> 01:47:09,520
We're not affecting the people who are doing good.

1556
01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:11,060
We have my regulations.

1557
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:12,720
Okay.

1558
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:17,600
It's always a perfect D2.

1559
01:47:18,300 --> 01:47:19,940
Is that you good, Sarah, do you have everything you need?

1560
01:47:20,020 --> 01:47:21,040
Yes, thank you.

1561
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:22,020
Thank you.

1562
01:47:22,460 --> 01:47:23,620
Thanks everyone for their feedback.

1563
01:47:24,860 --> 01:47:26,320
D2 discuss a vein support spark.

1564
01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:28,720
These are agreements to include our high school across.

1565
01:47:29,900 --> 01:47:30,860
This comes up on me out.

1566
01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:32,420
I'm excited about this one generally.

1567
01:47:33,140 --> 01:47:33,820
Bless you.

1568
01:47:34,340 --> 01:47:34,460
Thank you.

1569
01:47:35,540 --> 01:47:35,840
Thank you.

1570
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:36,580
Thank you.

1571
01:47:37,220 --> 01:47:38,640
All right.

1572
01:47:43,270 --> 01:47:44,410
So tonight we're going to be...

1573
01:47:44,410 --> 01:47:49,230
We've got to be in color by school across at the color SPART, so just a little background.

1574
01:47:49,490 --> 01:47:53,710
The color of our school across team does fall under the color of the cross organization.

1575
01:47:55,050 --> 01:48:00,670
So, I'm not necessarily going to need to amend and read the user agreement because they fall under it.

1576
01:48:00,830 --> 01:48:06,670
It's more so we need to discuss and just get your thoughts on allowing them to use a pet bee.

1577
01:48:06,750 --> 01:48:10,090
The Turfield software field for their practices again.

1578
01:48:10,190 --> 01:48:13,150
So we're going to do a little history, and then we can discuss.

1579
01:48:13,150 --> 01:48:21,090
So our current users are baseball cheer, football softball soccer, and Kelli LaCrosse at the sports park.

1580
01:48:23,380 --> 01:48:27,700
Kelli High School across the mission of Kelli LaCrosse is to promote and grow the sport LaCrosse

1581
01:48:27,700 --> 01:48:32,760
for the establishment of Oysteens for students from kindergarten through 12th grade, and the Kelli and the Pinnitus School District

1582
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:33,980
into their own areas.

1583
01:48:34,780 --> 01:48:40,680
The high school team participates in the Texas High School LaCrosse League, and they are not a UIL sport though in Texas.

1584
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:50,840
Last year, from fall 25, to spring 26, they had 174 registrations and 145 families, 88%

1585
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:57,420
previously played on youth teams that went up to J.D. in varsity and said 5% of those attended

1586
01:48:57,420 --> 01:48:58,520
K.L. high school.

1587
01:49:00,940 --> 01:49:06,340
This is their team, so they have 11 to 14 teams total under the association, one varsity

1588
01:49:06,340 --> 01:49:07,400
and one J.B.

1589
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:09,900
That's the high school level.

1590
01:49:11,220 --> 01:49:13,020
The Keller LaCross season schedule.

1591
01:49:13,480 --> 01:49:14,960
So they do practices in the fall.

1592
01:49:15,180 --> 01:49:17,180
They start in the early September and in November.

1593
01:49:17,980 --> 01:49:19,860
And then they play all their games in the spring,

1594
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:22,140
starting in mid January to early May.

1595
01:49:24,740 --> 01:49:25,860
So this was their proposal.

1596
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:29,020
Be approved as scheduled practices in games on PEDB.

1597
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:31,260
Put temporary markings on PEDB,

1598
01:49:31,460 --> 01:49:34,280
so they would need to make a circle

1599
01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:36,000
and then a couple lines on the outside.

1600
01:49:36,540 --> 01:49:39,080
Keller LaCross will pay for the additional markings.

1601
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:43,400
maintain the markings and pay to remove them at the end of the season. The temporary markings

1602
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:47,480
are only needed for games in the spring season. They don't require them for their practices

1603
01:49:47,480 --> 01:49:53,320
in the fall. And the temporary markings do not damage or harm the turf field. They will have 14

1604
01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:58,680
home-gave the embarrassing games during the spring season. We can't so only on Monday's and Wednesday's.

1605
01:50:07,820 --> 01:50:27,340
So, the city council action will be to designate be padded as a shared use bill for the Keller Socrates Association and the Kelley LaCross Association. This will allow both associations to schedule the bill in advance, coordinate regular schedules to minimize conflicts and LaCross would primarily use on non-soccer game days.

1606
01:50:27,340 --> 01:50:35,480
So typically KSA plays on Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturdays, they are only watching Mondays and Wednesdays.

1607
01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:38,460
So the cross line with Mondays and Wednesdays?

1608
01:50:38,620 --> 01:50:49,900
So KSA right now they have a clinic on Wednesdays and September. Historically, I went back this past year, KSA has only rented pad B in the spring twice.

1609
01:50:49,900 --> 01:50:56,400
They're whole season. It was towards the end for make a game and then one last fall at the end of the season as well

1610
01:50:56,400 --> 01:51:03,760
So they really they typically don't use be pad on Mondays or Wednesdays historically

1611
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:09,000
They have reached out to us since it that they would like to add some practices

1612
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:15,200
But they also can play on other fields outside of Pegey high school across

1613
01:51:15,780 --> 01:51:22,340
board gates specifically, they can only play on turf, be it, because of the association that they're under, they can only play on turf fields.

1614
01:51:22,480 --> 01:51:32,060
So that's why they've been traveling to Fort Worth and other associations, because the turf issues, they've never been able to play home.

1615
01:51:33,460 --> 01:51:36,860
That's what they're requested. They would like to come home and have games here.

1616
01:51:36,860 --> 01:51:54,560
Some questions, some markings, because I'm not a soccer player, or a cross player, so that the markings, they're the same markings, because when you got that quick a turn around of days, you don't put down marks and take them up in the next scene comes and puts their own marks on a few other things.

1617
01:51:55,280 --> 01:52:00,700
It's just an additional circle at the key in front of the goals, and it's going to be in a different color.

1618
01:52:00,700 --> 01:52:02,980
and we did send that to Keller's Locker Association

1619
01:52:02,980 --> 01:52:05,620
and ask them, do you see any issue with this?

1620
01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:07,280
We'll just cause any issue with gang.

1621
01:52:07,320 --> 01:52:08,700
We'll just leave it there.

1622
01:52:08,900 --> 01:52:09,120
Correct.

1623
01:52:09,220 --> 01:52:10,460
It would stay for the spring season.

1624
01:52:10,660 --> 01:52:13,980
So they would pay to install it at the beginning of the season

1625
01:52:13,980 --> 01:52:15,920
and then they would clean it up at the end of their season.

1626
01:52:16,100 --> 01:52:19,400
So they would be gone from May until January of the next year.

1627
01:52:19,580 --> 01:52:22,600
What is the claim of process as a tape or as a tape?

1628
01:52:23,020 --> 01:52:25,360
It is paint, but it is the clean up

1629
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:27,320
so they reach out to the turf company

1630
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:29,440
that actually installed it and talked with them

1631
01:52:29,440 --> 01:52:39,660
have about temporary markings and they have it all planned out and assure that it would be easy clean up and there would be no danger of permanent issues with it.

1632
01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:44,320
And we can even, like, give them feedback on the colors like sometimes the markings.

1633
01:52:44,440 --> 01:52:45,040
This is a good question.

1634
01:52:45,180 --> 01:52:47,920
Some markings on the field could be pretty confusing to you.

1635
01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:51,020
Try playing in a sports club point right now.

1636
01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:55,420
It's not an event actually, but there's some places where it can get free drop.

1637
01:52:55,420 --> 01:52:59,560
I actually did a basketball, coach of basketball at any point, the referee sitting with

1638
01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:00,300
other adults.

1639
01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:01,260
That's well.

1640
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:05,960
So, they proposed as maybe a blue to kind of go with the color-high school colors.

1641
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:06,140
Yeah.

1642
01:53:06,580 --> 01:53:08,240
And KSA was signed with that.

1643
01:53:08,440 --> 01:53:09,080
They approved that.

1644
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:13,800
So, staff was seeking the City Council discussion and concepts as no formal action is required.

1645
01:53:14,180 --> 01:53:17,180
So, we're just here, do you agree or do you agree or do you agree with it?

1646
01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:19,840
So, you said practices in-game games.

1647
01:53:19,980 --> 01:53:24,100
So, practices are in the fall, Monday's and Wednesday's, and then games are in the spring,

1648
01:53:24,420 --> 01:53:24,760
Monday's and Wednesday's.

1649
01:53:24,760 --> 01:53:26,760
Why would they use their field for practice?

1650
01:53:27,720 --> 01:53:28,500
They can.

1651
01:53:29,120 --> 01:53:30,680
They just would like to practice on the turf

1652
01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:33,160
just to be able to practice on the field

1653
01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:34,900
that they would play their games on.

1654
01:53:35,340 --> 01:53:38,460
But the youth across does play on the lacrosse fields.

1655
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:40,940
This is specifically just the high school team.

1656
01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:43,280
Yeah, so when they came to a server,

1657
01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:46,220
they were only asked if they only mentioned games.

1658
01:53:46,940 --> 01:53:48,420
Did they follow up with the practice requests

1659
01:53:48,420 --> 01:53:49,040
to basically play?

1660
01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:49,640
They did.

1661
01:53:50,820 --> 01:53:53,640
Yeah, I mean, I don't think they thought about the practices

1662
01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:56,340
They're, you know, homey fractures that they'll look at for a week.

1663
01:53:56,920 --> 01:53:58,340
Two, Mondays and Wednesdays.

1664
01:53:58,460 --> 01:54:01,260
And that would be something we would charge the people.

1665
01:54:02,120 --> 01:54:06,340
The turf-fiso we would get revenue from the practices in the fall.

1666
01:54:06,580 --> 01:54:07,060
What time?

1667
01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:09,540
They want to practice five to eight p.m.

1668
01:54:09,780 --> 01:54:11,100
Three hours on holidays and on the same.

1669
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:12,760
So,

1670
01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:16,340
it's probably J.B.

1671
01:54:16,500 --> 01:54:17,900
than varsity or bad.

1672
01:54:18,260 --> 01:54:18,560
Yeah.

1673
01:54:19,580 --> 01:54:21,000
Were they practicing now?

1674
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:23,900
Right now, I'm not sure.

1675
01:54:23,900 --> 01:54:26,840
They use the cross feel right there.

1676
01:54:26,840 --> 01:54:30,760
They use does up until high school, so K through 8th grade.

1677
01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:32,800
You use the cross feel the cross feel the cross that I love.

1678
01:54:33,320 --> 01:54:37,200
So lacrosse is a group to be played on, lacrosse, and head B.

1679
01:54:37,500 --> 01:54:40,660
So that is a designated sport that is allowed on inter.

1680
01:54:41,540 --> 01:54:41,740
Yeah.

1681
01:54:41,740 --> 01:54:43,480
The practice field is real practice.

1682
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:47,160
So the lacrosse field is grass.

1683
01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:51,520
So they want to be able to practice on the turf because it's going to be different.

1684
01:54:54,300 --> 01:54:58,780
It's just a lot of across, or because in the idea of three days a week, it is a lot.

1685
01:54:58,920 --> 01:54:59,840
It would be too many things.

1686
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:08,400
So, today is a week last. Games aren't until the spring Mondays in Wednesday. So, there are only days, year-round, fall, it's spring or Mondays in Wednesdays.

1687
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:12,680
So, there we have one. So, during the season they have one game and then one practice.

1688
01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:19,620
They only do practices in the fall. So, Mondays in Wednesday, their practice, they practice for a whole season and then they play games for a whole season.

1689
01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:21,160
They don't practice during the season.

1690
01:55:21,980 --> 01:55:26,260
Maybe on Mondays, but that's their strategic schedule. They don't have any games in the fall.

1691
01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:29,320
I'm okay with a lot of it.

1692
01:55:30,040 --> 01:55:32,240
I know we're still working on our tournament policy,

1693
01:55:33,420 --> 01:55:37,440
but a hate for a tournament that bring in a lot of business to our city,

1694
01:55:37,900 --> 01:55:39,840
the health because of an all-season practice.

1695
01:55:41,020 --> 01:55:43,440
So however we've managed that, deferring to you.

1696
01:55:44,460 --> 01:55:48,460
I don't foresee a lot of tournaments coming during the weekday.

1697
01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:51,020
That's the only reason that I'm kind of leaning okay

1698
01:55:51,020 --> 01:55:54,720
because it's a Monday, Wednesday, and tournaments are typically going to be a Friday,

1699
01:55:56,180 --> 01:55:58,060
They're looking at two games a week as well.

1700
01:55:58,700 --> 01:55:59,760
14 games total.

1701
01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:03,360
So I would assume that their schedule would be a practice on a Monday and a game on a

1702
01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:04,180
Monday's day.

1703
01:56:04,520 --> 01:56:07,820
They didn't specify that, but that's going to be set for such a thing.

1704
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:08,280
All right.

1705
01:56:08,940 --> 01:56:09,160
OK.

1706
01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:10,980
But they don't have in-games in the fall.

1707
01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:12,840
I do know that for a certain time.

1708
01:56:12,980 --> 01:56:14,560
I was off for them having their games there.

1709
01:56:14,700 --> 01:56:15,340
I'm pretty humble.

1710
01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:16,460
Still not.

1711
01:56:16,980 --> 01:56:18,820
So practice is making me kind of comfortable.

1712
01:56:19,180 --> 01:56:21,300
Because that's all that that's five to eight p.m.

1713
01:56:21,300 --> 01:56:27,760
on to the most prime days a week like that eats up a lot of time that's other

1714
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:33,940
more substantial advice. So I'm personally good with the games. What do you

1715
01:56:33,940 --> 01:56:36,740
guys think? I mean am I overthinking it? Despite the mayor.

1716
01:56:40,490 --> 01:56:41,390
Okay. Okay, nothing is

1717
01:56:41,390 --> 01:56:45,470
just interesting that they practice the fall and they play at the spring because you

1718
01:56:45,470 --> 01:56:50,270
need your practicing when you're playing. And they're asking for something that

1719
01:56:50,270 --> 01:56:55,390
the proposal is for more than what they asked for correct so the initial

1720
01:56:55,390 --> 01:56:59,070
conversation was to have games right Jordan I'm not much remember it's

1721
01:56:59,070 --> 01:57:03,390
I was only here for like a brief 10-15 minutes they they're initial they just

1722
01:57:03,390 --> 01:57:07,530
want to come home to Keller and they wanted to be able to they mostly they were

1723
01:57:07,530 --> 01:57:11,810
really buying towards games for sure bringing back and then if they can also

1724
01:57:11,810 --> 01:57:16,370
do practices that would be the chair going up so so they don't go to any practices

1725
01:57:16,370 --> 01:57:29,370
I think that's the only place I can get.

1726
01:57:30,530 --> 01:57:35,970
Can we just say, I mean, unless he's trying to do, do we know if you're trying to do two games a week?

1727
01:57:36,230 --> 01:57:39,210
Because if he first thing, I would just say, yeah, we'll try one day a week.

1728
01:57:40,130 --> 01:57:40,930
That's what I would say.

1729
01:57:41,150 --> 01:57:43,230
But I don't want to screw up their game schedule.

1730
01:57:44,670 --> 01:57:49,730
Yeah, or the soccer schedule. So I think one day week is probably fine, so they can schedule out their games that way

1731
01:57:50,250 --> 01:57:52,850
There should be enough time in

1732
01:57:52,850 --> 01:57:55,330
5-14 games to do that

1733
01:57:55,330 --> 01:57:59,810
We can be more flexible in the games. I don't think any of it is anyone opposed that having games on soccer padby

1734
01:58:04,290 --> 01:58:09,650
So I think the games are yes, and then as far as practice and the fall

1735
01:58:09,650 --> 01:58:12,650
Shining your thoughts on there you're more of a

1736
01:58:13,350 --> 01:58:13,750
Soccer

1737
01:58:13,750 --> 01:58:26,590
We just, yeah, that means soccer is a lot more well during that time and again, I know tournaments are during midweek, but there's practices and they do have some not many, some tournaments, only at one midweek.

1738
01:58:27,150 --> 01:58:32,770
I just, I'm just getting late, my brain is been a long day, but I defer to you.

1739
01:58:33,110 --> 01:58:36,850
I like the mayor's point, and we can start a song, maybe expand it.

1740
01:58:36,850 --> 01:58:42,890
Especially if we see how you usage, I mean we just opened all this up this year and we're still getting as

1741
01:58:44,150 --> 01:58:51,010
Teflon brinses look data on this so I'd maybe start slow and build it up. It's all like the major side did still

1742
01:58:52,130 --> 01:58:57,510
Games yeah, and then work up there if we have availability for practice. I'm having a full data on

1743
01:58:57,510 --> 01:58:59,210
VP had VP had is relatively a

1744
01:58:59,830 --> 01:59:04,830
Low-Rentid field just because it is turf and it is it does cost more so when people are renting it's

1745
01:59:07,050 --> 01:59:13,190
For the, they can already go and rent the practice space.

1746
01:59:13,330 --> 01:59:15,850
They can, they just can't, to a distance.

1747
01:59:16,030 --> 01:59:20,930
Yeah, I think that's perfectly fine against you because unless I'm misunderstanding something,

1748
01:59:21,010 --> 01:59:22,170
but they can't do that with games.

1749
01:59:22,350 --> 01:59:24,210
Like, you have to have structure for games.

1750
01:59:24,530 --> 01:59:25,070
So that's what I would say.

1751
01:59:25,250 --> 01:59:28,210
I mean, yes, for practices you can do it.

1752
01:59:28,230 --> 01:59:32,230
But use the current reservations system so that way, you don't have to get in that back and forth.

1753
01:59:32,230 --> 01:59:34,790
and also it gives them the ability of the field's open.

1754
01:59:35,290 --> 01:59:37,050
And then games, we just give them the real light.

1755
01:59:37,590 --> 01:59:37,710
Yeah.

1756
01:59:37,710 --> 01:59:40,830
We're doing that just in case we have competition of the things.

1757
01:59:41,210 --> 01:59:42,410
Yeah, there's a lot of problems.

1758
01:59:43,470 --> 01:59:44,490
The field and the small.

1759
01:59:44,710 --> 01:59:49,050
Yeah, and we're going to check the KSA's really trying to grow select, select, and

1760
01:59:49,050 --> 01:59:50,850
stalker with that KSA's gone down.

1761
01:59:51,010 --> 01:59:55,010
And then there's other leagues that want to use those focus on there's a discussion.

1762
01:59:56,270 --> 01:59:56,950
Yeah, I won't go there.

1763
01:59:57,330 --> 01:59:59,410
But yes, but they already have the right to their point.

1764
01:59:59,410 --> 01:59:59,970
I'm going to do it.

1765
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:01,880
But now, just like any other resident.

1766
02:00:02,660 --> 02:00:02,880
So.

1767
02:00:03,040 --> 02:00:06,820
And honestly, I think if I think of a day, you think it's okay and it's not going to cause major congestion.

1768
02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:13,840
I think council trusts you to monitor the issue. So if you decide to help on more practices, I think we're okay with that.

1769
02:00:14,580 --> 02:00:19,460
But to me, the cleanest way is just a lot of the use of current process for practices and green light the games.

1770
02:00:19,700 --> 02:00:24,820
And it's a mom for a killer lacrosse. Just texted, said games, you're two decent parties.

1771
02:00:26,220 --> 02:00:27,460
For a high school?

1772
02:00:29,540 --> 02:00:31,600
It's a junior this year, so.

1773
02:00:34,100 --> 02:00:35,520
We are presenting Monday's someone's day though.

1774
02:00:35,560 --> 02:00:37,440
It'll be fine. I think the game will be fine.

1775
02:00:37,840 --> 02:00:38,280
Yeah, yes.

1776
02:00:38,360 --> 02:00:41,820
We have their schedule already, they gave us our approval to hear this get done.

1777
02:00:41,860 --> 02:00:43,180
Yeah, it could have been changed.

1778
02:00:43,820 --> 02:00:44,500
Wait, no, the usual.

1779
02:00:44,780 --> 02:00:45,880
We'll do it.

1780
02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:48,900
Probably actually, yeah, probably we'll run this discussion.

1781
02:00:49,560 --> 02:00:52,720
So, if I give you the feedback, you need yes on games, yes on prep.

1782
02:00:52,940 --> 02:00:55,260
You know, yes on prep, just however, use the current process.

1783
02:00:56,200 --> 02:00:56,660
Thank you.

1784
02:00:57,140 --> 02:00:57,360
Awesome.

1785
02:00:57,540 --> 02:00:58,160
Thank you.

1786
02:00:58,300 --> 02:01:00,760
All right, D3, you know, local Greenland South Lake,

1787
02:01:00,760 --> 02:01:03,200
related to the ultimate of waterline, rehabilitation,

1788
02:01:10,880 --> 02:01:13,600
and just counsel for number five.

1789
02:01:13,840 --> 02:01:17,680
It's literally going to be, do you have questions about the economic development update?

1790
02:01:17,760 --> 02:01:22,100
Because we are here to receive that report, so I don't be here to answer questions, don't think

1791
02:01:22,100 --> 02:01:26,280
we're going to go through a, you know, unless you have, for me, that's where the questions

1792
02:01:26,280 --> 02:01:27,800
I should tell them should be relatively quick.

1793
02:01:28,520 --> 02:01:28,540
So,

1794
02:01:31,200 --> 02:01:35,920
let's see that one now, I actually, do you guys have questions in the economic development

1795
02:01:35,920 --> 02:01:36,580
update?

1796
02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:37,160
No.

1797
02:01:37,160 --> 02:01:40,680
It was even, you guys have questions.

1798
02:01:41,840 --> 02:01:47,220
The only thing I would like to say, not send this to Aaron today is if you didn't, there's some stuff that comes to color that doesn't.

1799
02:01:48,340 --> 02:01:50,860
They need all the criteria we never did, correct?

1800
02:01:51,800 --> 02:01:52,600
Perma once.

1801
02:01:53,940 --> 02:02:00,620
Is there any way we can, if somebody asked me in town, and I'm supposed to be Mr. Council.

1802
02:02:01,760 --> 02:02:05,940
And there's a little business or something that has come here, and I don't have a clue about it.

1803
02:02:05,940 --> 02:02:11,040
Is there any way we can get a list of those that are flying through to do everything you ask them to do?

1804
02:02:11,420 --> 02:02:14,100
You should be getting that in your report.

1805
02:02:15,280 --> 02:02:16,340
Would you point it out to me?

1806
02:02:16,340 --> 02:02:17,120
To see us.

1807
02:02:17,440 --> 02:02:18,240
Does it are that way?

1808
02:02:18,520 --> 02:02:18,780
Yes.

1809
02:02:19,160 --> 02:02:19,700
That's what I'm saying.

1810
02:02:19,860 --> 02:02:20,380
Good question.

1811
02:02:22,200 --> 02:02:22,320
Good.

1812
02:02:22,660 --> 02:02:23,320
Thank you.

1813
02:02:23,720 --> 02:02:23,900
Yeah.

1814
02:02:24,300 --> 02:02:26,740
Because they have to get that for someone who can physically go in there.

1815
02:02:27,020 --> 02:02:27,780
That's the good.

1816
02:02:28,080 --> 02:02:28,260
That's the good.

1817
02:02:28,380 --> 02:02:29,340
Oh, my camera's there.

1818
02:02:29,720 --> 02:02:30,180
That's the best.

1819
02:02:30,180 --> 02:02:31,320
That's the best one I've ever seen.

1820
02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:33,060
Oh, my camera's there.

1821
02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:35,820
I'm still out there.

1822
02:02:36,140 --> 02:02:37,460
Okay, because I looked a good.

1823
02:02:37,540 --> 02:02:38,440
First watch of this.

1824
02:02:38,500 --> 02:02:39,680
I'm excited about that mural.

1825
02:02:40,700 --> 02:02:42,360
Yeah, that's a big one.

1826
02:02:42,440 --> 02:02:43,860
You're just so excited about what?

1827
02:02:44,080 --> 02:02:44,540
The mural?

1828
02:02:45,320 --> 02:02:46,360
Not a little bit of a calendarster.

1829
02:02:46,620 --> 02:02:47,800
No, no, but it's in the...

1830
02:02:47,800 --> 02:02:48,340
It's in the...

1831
02:02:48,340 --> 02:02:49,860
Art of Regents being here.

1832
02:02:51,180 --> 02:02:52,980
Yeah, so you sent that out today.

1833
02:02:53,840 --> 02:02:55,600
I was on Friday for...

1834
02:02:55,600 --> 02:02:57,140
Yeah, it was a last day in my life.

1835
02:02:57,320 --> 02:02:58,400
I was from New York, on June 6th.

1836
02:02:58,580 --> 02:03:00,860
Oh, can you put me in a deal with the girls in the hallway or not yet?

1837
02:03:00,860 --> 02:03:04,860
They are still working on that, but we will bring it to you before.

1838
02:03:06,500 --> 02:03:08,720
We will call it, I think, but good counsel is getting in.

1839
02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:09,800
It's a more colorful, good stuff.

1840
02:03:10,820 --> 02:03:11,240
It's true.

1841
02:03:11,600 --> 02:03:12,900
We community it that way.

1842
02:03:13,480 --> 02:03:15,220
And if they can put a statue of a tree.

1843
02:03:15,320 --> 02:03:16,140
Statue of a tree.

1844
02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:17,480
We help it.

1845
02:03:19,040 --> 02:03:20,180
What the hell is that?

1846
02:03:21,100 --> 02:03:22,280
It's a game that there's a deal.

1847
02:03:23,500 --> 02:03:25,160
It's a right game that I can tell.

1848
02:03:25,340 --> 02:03:26,200
Better Scott and wife.

1849
02:03:26,700 --> 02:03:27,860
You know, right across the river.

1850
02:03:29,340 --> 02:03:29,660
Yeah.

1851
02:03:29,660 --> 02:03:34,960
So the idea, so Shane and I met with Regency, we said, what can we do activate the space?

1852
02:03:35,420 --> 02:03:38,060
Let's start and they were all about it.

1853
02:03:38,260 --> 02:03:41,180
And so one of the follow-through items is to do them your own.

1854
02:03:42,440 --> 02:03:43,240
So should we be pretty exciting?

1855
02:03:43,620 --> 02:03:43,900
Should we?

1856
02:03:43,900 --> 02:03:46,480
So we're planning where this mural is, I'm trying to picture.

1857
02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:47,140
It's not there.

1858
02:03:47,140 --> 02:03:49,020
You know, they're right behind the Baylor's cotton wipe.

1859
02:03:49,060 --> 02:03:52,220
We have center that just keeps through, believe in bay.

1860
02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:58,080
If you look behind their space, there's all that thesis so how?

1861
02:03:58,600 --> 02:04:06,180
Okay, and it's that all right, just a blank wall right here, and so it's based we can do stuff with it in the future the mayor's point

1862
02:04:06,180 --> 02:04:08,220
They were actually really

1863
02:04:08,220 --> 02:04:14,000
Excited, I think we were they were excited to work with us to do some regency stuff there

1864
02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:18,900
Full English, that's pretty cool. I'm gonna mural the statue here or play ground something in water tower

1865
02:04:18,900 --> 02:04:20,320
Thank you Jordan

1866
02:04:20,320 --> 02:04:24,080
Yeah, all right

1867
02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:25,640
I'm going to show you what the water is.

1868
02:04:26,280 --> 02:04:27,380
Any other questions for Anna?

1869
02:04:31,570 --> 02:04:31,670
Yeah.

1870
02:04:32,030 --> 02:04:32,490
Thank you.

1871
02:04:32,510 --> 02:04:33,930
I don't know if that allows you to get out of here earlier.

1872
02:04:34,090 --> 02:04:36,790
But that was the reason for getting to pee.

1873
02:04:38,290 --> 02:04:38,830
All right.

1874
02:04:41,780 --> 02:04:42,860
And kind of moving ahead.

1875
02:04:43,380 --> 02:04:47,620
We're going to, here in I talk, we'll restructure reformat some of the staff reports.

1876
02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:50,160
So they're going to have a look and feel a little bit more like that.

1877
02:04:50,240 --> 02:04:52,300
So it's going to be a little bit of a mindset shift,

1878
02:04:52,300 --> 02:04:52,960
at least for me.

1879
02:04:54,600 --> 02:04:57,060
And for some of us to read the information,

1880
02:04:57,060 --> 02:04:58,340
and come prepared for questions,

1881
02:04:58,500 --> 02:04:59,880
so we'll start clicking through staff reports.

1882
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:09,640
And then we'll probably have a few more substantive reports on a maybe like a quarterly basis, or on a has any basis from some other folks in other departments.

1883
02:05:10,320 --> 02:05:15,980
So. All right, D3 in a local agreement with South Lake.

1884
02:05:16,880 --> 02:05:21,140
It's been a long time coming, I'll get to the timeline here a little bit, but fish

1885
02:05:21,140 --> 02:05:30,300
legs to the altivist water line, for those that don't know, the altivist water line runs

1886
02:05:31,000 --> 02:05:35,880
from the east family, actually, from the altivist above station in Fort Worth, stretches

1887
02:05:36,440 --> 02:05:41,760
linked to the city and then connects to South Lake, so it is one of our main water lines

1888
02:05:41,760 --> 02:05:43,220
that we have

1889
02:05:45,360 --> 02:05:49,920
to have a five mile line, it's actually located almost all over the

1890
02:05:49,920 --> 02:05:56,400
color, however, is a shared line with South Lake. So it is both our water line supply line

1891
02:05:56,400 --> 02:06:00,520
and their water supply line. So it's the South Lake border. There's a meter there to determine

1892
02:06:00,520 --> 02:06:05,600
how much water goes out to me to South Lake. In the ancient, we had a current and you're

1893
02:06:05,600 --> 02:06:09,620
local with them where they actually take care of the repairs. If there's anything that happens

1894
02:06:09,620 --> 02:06:10,380
to that.

1895
02:06:11,240 --> 02:06:15,560
And artists became important as we get related to the grants that we've been awarded.

1896
02:06:17,320 --> 02:06:22,280
But all in all, this is a combination of other 30-inch and 36-inch concrete pipe.

1897
02:06:22,780 --> 02:06:24,040
It's about 40 years old.

1898
02:06:24,500 --> 02:06:29,500
It's sort of almost 80,000 residents, which are in the Keller and South Lake, and then in the

1899
02:06:29,500 --> 02:06:34,800
past about five years, we've had some repairs to it, about 1.5 million in total.

1900
02:06:35,180 --> 02:06:37,460
It's definitely got the luxury of dealing with that.

1901
02:06:38,060 --> 02:06:41,100
So we recognize the line is getting to the end of life.

1902
02:06:41,160 --> 02:06:44,200
I've said by the nature of it, it's critical for our needs.

1903
02:06:44,720 --> 02:06:45,420
Just for water.

1904
02:06:46,160 --> 02:06:49,720
And as such, we have been applying for federal grants

1905
02:06:50,300 --> 02:06:54,820
beginning on the way in FYI 2340, FYI 24 appropriations

1906
02:06:54,820 --> 02:06:56,240
back then.

1907
02:06:56,440 --> 02:07:01,220
And we've successfully applied a year for 15 million

1908
02:07:01,980 --> 02:07:05,900
from the federal with a 50, 25, 25 match.

1909
02:07:05,900 --> 02:07:08,280
and actually made a total for 30 million each year.

1910
02:07:09,360 --> 02:07:14,280
We were awarded the FY24 appropriations of 750,000.

1911
02:07:15,280 --> 02:07:17,000
We've gone through the EPA process for that

1912
02:07:17,000 --> 02:07:18,820
and finally actually have been green light

1913
02:07:18,820 --> 02:07:20,760
to actually spend those funds.

1914
02:07:21,060 --> 02:07:25,920
It has been from FY23, so about April of 23 to now

1915
02:07:25,920 --> 02:07:27,340
to finally get that green light.

1916
02:07:27,580 --> 02:07:31,180
It does come with a, like I said, a 50, 25, 25 maps.

1917
02:07:31,560 --> 02:07:33,740
And we have 750 federal funds.

1918
02:07:33,740 --> 02:07:37,760
the city will contribute to half of that exactly as well.

1919
02:07:38,440 --> 02:07:41,500
We were not awarded anything as part of the 25 appropriation.

1920
02:07:42,080 --> 02:07:46,060
That's the 26 appropriation we were awarded another million dollars.

1921
02:07:46,400 --> 02:07:50,700
Again, a 50-50 match, so we will be on the hook for 500,000,

1922
02:07:50,700 --> 02:07:53,840
and it's applicable to be on the hook for another 500,000.

1923
02:07:54,240 --> 02:07:56,860
We are in the process of having these two grants combined.

1924
02:07:57,760 --> 02:08:02,340
So that's one of the things with the EBA, so that we can use those as one and basically 50-50.

1925
02:08:02,340 --> 02:08:08,960
So I thought C. Keller was a, what did we do? I can't remember. It's been a year, at least.

1926
02:08:10,380 --> 02:08:13,800
We do a joint application of South Lake, or why the C. Keller was awarded.

1927
02:08:14,740 --> 02:08:19,660
Initially, we were doing as a joint, and then it's the same application.

1928
02:08:21,040 --> 02:08:25,180
So, of course, Keller wins the award, because it is our line.

1929
02:08:25,180 --> 02:08:32,520
South Lake will give a letter of support for that application so in the 50 50 out of that work

1930
02:08:32,520 --> 02:08:40,400
It's ordination of South Lake because we were awarded 1.75 correct and then they will we will match 25% and

1931
02:08:40,400 --> 02:08:47,040
South Lake will match 25%. That's what makes the 50 go. Oh, oh, okay. Got it. So we're actually

1932
02:08:47,040 --> 02:08:49,740
Karen 75% of the bill

1933
02:08:51,100 --> 02:08:54,440
Yeah, we did the work to secure it.

1934
02:08:54,580 --> 02:08:54,880
Yeah, we did.

1935
02:08:55,500 --> 02:08:56,160
All right.

1936
02:08:56,940 --> 02:08:57,860
Got it.

1937
02:08:57,880 --> 02:08:59,760
Well, that actually becomes important, though,

1938
02:09:00,420 --> 02:09:03,040
and what the proposal I laid would look like.

1939
02:09:05,460 --> 02:09:10,740
So in the draft that is should be in your packet at this time,

1940
02:09:11,580 --> 02:09:17,820
kind of continuing with the focus that we have related to the maintenance idea,

1941
02:09:17,820 --> 02:09:26,280
We've been awarded $1.75 total, about $3.2 million that's been awarded, between awarded

1942
02:09:26,280 --> 02:09:27,020
and match.

1943
02:09:27,280 --> 02:09:28,860
So, at $3.2 is available.

1944
02:09:31,040 --> 02:09:36,380
Southflake would handle the design engineering, the RFQ, all of the work to handle the design

1945
02:09:36,380 --> 02:09:40,700
engineering of this, so they would deal with the federal compliance, they would pay the

1946
02:09:40,700 --> 02:09:46,320
vendor, they would be the ones that handle the day-to-day operations of this, color would

1947
02:09:46,320 --> 02:09:47,200
manage the grant.

1948
02:09:47,200 --> 02:09:57,400
So we would be the ones working with DPA when things didn't be submitted and we would receive the funding and then apply both our funding in the match the the color funding

1949
02:09:57,400 --> 02:09:59,900
So all right the grant and the match will provide

1950
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:02,420
I don't want to stop like before their side.

1951
02:10:02,480 --> 02:10:05,140
I mean, I don't know where it is, a lot of the concerns we had earlier on.

1952
02:10:05,940 --> 02:10:08,220
And if it were a pair of the pipe or a place to pipe?

1953
02:10:08,600 --> 02:10:10,120
This is right now, it is on an inch.

1954
02:10:10,280 --> 02:10:11,180
Design and engineering.

1955
02:10:11,440 --> 02:10:11,960
Design and engineering.

1956
02:10:12,080 --> 02:10:13,140
In a part of it.

1957
02:10:13,340 --> 02:10:14,120
It is a part of it.

1958
02:10:14,480 --> 02:10:14,880
It is a part of it.

1959
02:10:15,180 --> 02:10:15,880
It is a part of it.

1960
02:10:16,180 --> 02:10:18,360
Theoretical designs right now would have it.

1961
02:10:18,400 --> 02:10:20,180
We could actually put a pipe within a pipe.

1962
02:10:20,920 --> 02:10:21,400
In a tunnel.

1963
02:10:21,820 --> 02:10:23,580
And so, right now it's a concrete pipe.

1964
02:10:23,720 --> 02:10:24,940
We replace with the plastic.

1965
02:10:25,640 --> 02:10:27,160
And that's where the expert over here can be.

1966
02:10:27,420 --> 02:10:28,380
The more technical terms.

1967
02:10:28,380 --> 02:10:30,440
They're, they're dimeter than that.

1968
02:10:30,640 --> 02:10:30,940
Yeah.

1969
02:10:31,280 --> 02:10:31,360
Yeah.

1970
02:10:31,360 --> 02:10:35,260
Different material, like the KKK has a psychopath and it doesn't see it's different material.

1971
02:10:35,500 --> 02:10:36,580
But our blood is not free.

1972
02:10:36,840 --> 02:10:40,180
The mosthypes of PVC, it's slicker.

1973
02:10:41,060 --> 02:10:42,080
I don't care if they are.

1974
02:10:42,200 --> 02:10:44,380
It's the last friction, so you're able to.

1975
02:10:45,840 --> 02:10:47,980
Potion, the pipe, the whole time.

1976
02:10:48,300 --> 02:10:49,580
Or is it incremental?

1977
02:10:50,100 --> 02:10:51,440
Or you have to actually, at least how.

1978
02:10:51,440 --> 02:10:55,840
There will be, what's, what's the, the laying camp there out now, based on cost friction,

1979
02:10:55,840 --> 02:11:02,740
that's a fusible PVC, and then it would be literally pulled through the existing, existing

1980
02:11:02,740 --> 02:11:02,880
pipe.

1981
02:11:03,180 --> 02:11:05,140
And so, that's the other thing.

1982
02:11:05,140 --> 02:11:10,640
I'm positive too, it's less obstructed, because most of this pipe is a longer pavement.

1983
02:11:11,720 --> 02:11:13,560
But the extraceous, but it's very popular over here.

1984
02:11:16,660 --> 02:11:20,020
The trenchless technology that would be there, so it's a lot.

1985
02:11:20,460 --> 02:11:22,640
But we would have the entire road clung.

1986
02:11:22,640 --> 02:11:24,940
Oh, we have long, fairly extended period times.

1987
02:11:25,280 --> 02:11:26,320
So it's a long need for ourselves.

1988
02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:30,500
So it's a real tight finish that they can make it into a thermal fuel and it's true.

1989
02:11:30,500 --> 02:11:30,900
It's true.

1990
02:11:31,400 --> 02:11:33,060
What's the lifespan on the new material?

1991
02:11:33,500 --> 02:11:35,600
It will be like 40 years, like it will be long.

1992
02:11:35,760 --> 02:11:36,480
Yeah longer than that.

1993
02:11:36,540 --> 02:11:38,920
I don't know the exact number, but it's more important for you.

1994
02:11:42,310 --> 02:11:43,190
It's a real cool process.

1995
02:11:43,190 --> 02:11:45,450
So we don't have to worry about these lines on the stuff anymore.

1996
02:11:45,810 --> 02:11:46,710
They take care of that.

1997
02:11:46,770 --> 02:11:47,310
So that opens.

1998
02:11:48,050 --> 02:11:49,250
There's a steeper.

1999
02:11:49,330 --> 02:11:52,270
Anyone who thinks it puts us in a better spot for our requested.

2000
02:11:52,570 --> 02:11:54,790
We've gotten the design and engineering going.

2001
02:11:55,250 --> 02:12:02,650
Trying to get the totality would, because it's like, if I'm evaluating an appropriation, I'd be more likely to find it at the airport.

2002
02:12:03,110 --> 02:12:04,810
You're generally looking for a shuttle seat.

2003
02:12:06,070 --> 02:12:12,030
And we made it clear that we want to be careful when we switch to the construction phase,

2004
02:12:12,890 --> 02:12:20,470
that the federal requirements to come with a construction, that we don't end up spending more to comply with those in the funds we receive.

2005
02:12:20,970 --> 02:12:25,450
And so, if we're going to get construction costs, we really want to see that towards construction.

2006
02:12:26,250 --> 02:12:28,610
That's also why I will be applied as part of F1-1-6.

2007
02:12:28,810 --> 02:12:34,950
We also provided the alternative of really looking funding for some drainage and sidewalk improvements on melody.

2008
02:12:35,210 --> 02:12:39,150
And start looking at some other alternative projects that also are getting that high priority.

2009
02:12:40,850 --> 02:12:44,930
But if we're going to be kind of fine with that smaller grant funding, there's a detriment.

2010
02:12:45,410 --> 02:12:48,470
There's additional costs with federal, we need to federal ties on that.

2011
02:12:49,910 --> 02:12:51,670
So what are you looking for from us?

2012
02:12:52,090 --> 02:12:53,230
It's a great question.

2013
02:12:54,530 --> 02:12:57,170
Make sure you want to continue with the grant for the project.

2014
02:12:57,370 --> 02:12:59,030
You want us to read the ILO focus.

2015
02:13:00,250 --> 02:13:02,310
ILA forward with South Lake.

2016
02:13:02,950 --> 02:13:04,690
So we'd see that on this September 15th meeting.

2017
02:13:05,450 --> 02:13:07,650
And then just kind of the recognition of this.

2018
02:13:07,990 --> 02:13:11,470
Because you're doing design and engineering and improve that project and that scope,

2019
02:13:11,890 --> 02:13:14,970
we need to plan for the potential that issue and so that project in our future.

2020
02:13:14,970 --> 02:13:22,810
So, and that's something that we do have in the five year CIP is a general idea of water water, water and waste water line replacements.

2021
02:13:24,110 --> 02:13:28,970
Not necessarily here marked as altivist, but we do have some capacities working towards that long term.

2022
02:13:29,610 --> 02:13:38,990
So, just kind of a recognition, this does have a ripple effect, if we get a design engineering, we like, we want to cut, you know, use that design engineering, you know,

2023
02:13:38,990 --> 02:13:44,130
So it's just a short amount of times of the design isn't going to go away.

2024
02:13:44,330 --> 02:13:47,330
So it's the next, so the next thing is to be the air local district.

2025
02:13:48,130 --> 02:13:48,150
Okay.

2026
02:13:48,150 --> 02:13:50,090
I mean it's capacity for the debt should get issued.

2027
02:13:50,250 --> 02:13:51,050
It's in the general fund.

2028
02:13:51,230 --> 02:13:52,150
You can't really look at this.

2029
02:13:52,150 --> 02:13:53,970
Why do we start a family? Why do we start a family? Why do we start our life?

2030
02:13:54,190 --> 02:13:55,750
Yeah, this is what we want to waste what I do.

2031
02:13:57,050 --> 02:13:58,230
Let's get more credit.

2032
02:13:58,730 --> 02:13:59,490
This will be more credit.

2033
02:14:00,010 --> 02:14:02,450
Then again, we will be getting a put-in for appropriations.

2034
02:14:02,570 --> 02:14:02,690
Okay.

2035
02:14:03,150 --> 02:14:06,990
So we've got millions from federal government teleposset,

2036
02:14:06,990 --> 02:14:13,290
That's the other taxpayers, for those of us.

2037
02:14:14,150 --> 02:14:19,590
Okay, I mean unless it doesn't have any concerns about moving forward with just the

2038
02:14:19,590 --> 02:14:20,270
design of engineering.

2039
02:14:21,350 --> 02:14:27,670
I mean, I don't because if we don't like it, we do the design of engineering, we don't like

2040
02:14:27,670 --> 02:14:33,490
it all then the planes go on the shelf and 800 or so is about $1,000 just a big commitment.

2041
02:14:33,490 --> 02:14:40,970
So, once we take that first step, but it's not like you're not all the way yet, you're not at 15 or 20 million dollars in the project.

2042
02:14:41,630 --> 02:14:46,410
So, if something significant changes, but at the end of the day, the water line has to be repaired.

2043
02:14:46,610 --> 02:14:49,610
It's not exciting, it's not above ground, it's not going to.

2044
02:14:49,730 --> 02:14:54,770
As long as Ronnie's sharp pressure still works out right, we should be right around it.

2045
02:14:55,210 --> 02:14:57,010
It's still 40 more amands, so.

2046
02:14:58,090 --> 02:14:58,650
But not seriously.

2047
02:14:58,850 --> 02:14:59,150
It's a hill.

2048
02:14:59,150 --> 02:14:59,790
Thank you.

2049
02:15:00,020 --> 02:15:19,000
I think you're repair. You're right. Yeah, it is a replacement. So, I mean, this is a big deal. Yeah, you're right. Don't miss your marriage. It's not exciting, but when you turn on your faucet and water doesn't come out, you know, that's basically failure of government. It's basic level. So, yeah.

2050
02:15:19,000 --> 02:15:22,480
It was a core structure.

2051
02:15:23,720 --> 02:15:23,740
Yeah.

2052
02:15:24,140 --> 02:15:29,720
So when did we get the green light from kind of get this project moving along?

2053
02:15:30,280 --> 02:15:31,360
From the EPA?

2054
02:15:32,140 --> 02:15:32,660
Yeah.

2055
02:15:32,660 --> 02:15:34,460
We were earlier this year.

2056
02:15:34,500 --> 02:15:35,280
Now we're talking together.

2057
02:15:36,620 --> 02:15:44,500
We've been working with them since awarded, which is not two years ago to finally get all the ducks

2058
02:15:44,500 --> 02:15:49,440
around. The nice thing is the merger of the two, I believe it's supposed to go a little faster

2059
02:15:49,440 --> 02:15:54,040
and so we'll get that going, but we also need the ILA going, so we start the process

2060
02:15:54,040 --> 02:16:01,980
to design energy. Okay, hopefully securing another 1.7 million dollars, that helps both cities

2061
02:16:01,980 --> 02:16:04,620
self-just continued work if they're good neighbor and softly.

2062
02:16:05,200 --> 02:16:07,140
Yes, sir. All right, thank you.

2063
02:16:07,240 --> 02:16:08,080
Good update.

2064
02:16:08,940 --> 02:16:09,260
Good update.

2065
02:16:09,260 --> 02:16:09,380
Good update.

2066
02:16:10,480 --> 02:16:11,060
It is.

2067
02:16:11,500 --> 02:16:11,980
It is.

2068
02:16:14,760 --> 02:16:15,500
Do you forward?

2069
02:16:18,970 --> 02:16:19,750
Sorry, sir.

2070
02:16:19,850 --> 02:16:22,430
I should have pardoned before and after your SCR update.

2071
02:16:22,590 --> 02:16:25,130
So that we could punch out of here.

2072
02:16:25,530 --> 02:16:26,750
Next time, like Bill, I'll cancel out.

2073
02:16:26,890 --> 02:16:28,150
I mean, say, hey, I'm going to be default.

2074
02:16:31,780 --> 02:16:33,280
So this is not a presentation.

2075
02:16:33,280 --> 02:16:40,020
and this is something we've talked about at the Stricate Accession to show the way.

2076
02:16:44,150 --> 02:16:46,130
To show you a couple of things,

2077
02:16:53,500 --> 02:16:55,980
one new, the other is a refresh for some of the council,

2078
02:16:56,900 --> 02:17:01,120
but worth going in and going through both, both we talked about at the Stricate Accession.

2079
02:17:01,480 --> 02:17:03,880
So this is executive and sites.

2080
02:17:04,280 --> 02:17:09,640
This is metrics that is coming directly out of our permitting and planar use system that we

2081
02:17:09,640 --> 02:17:16,340
started in 2024. Tomorrow morning, you'll all get an email with a login, so you can go in and

2082
02:17:16,340 --> 02:17:21,520
look kind of a city leadership at the metrics that we have. So I don't want to go through

2083
02:17:21,520 --> 02:17:26,260
every single feature on here, I know it's late. So I hope you'll all get an airplane around

2084
02:17:26,260 --> 02:17:30,700
with it. You have questions or fun things that are wrong or confusing, please let me know.

2085
02:17:31,140 --> 02:17:39,620
We've really just started using this internally in the last couple of months, so we're still

2086
02:17:39,620 --> 02:17:44,720
to pretty much whatever you want. We started this system, like I said, in summer of 2024,

2087
02:17:45,300 --> 02:17:50,000
I will tell you that there's some not-so-great data. In fact, in 2024, when it's really almost

2088
02:17:50,000 --> 02:17:55,400
like training data, when we first started running things with a system, and learning how to use it,

2089
02:17:55,500 --> 02:17:59,480
but as you get closer to present days, it's better and better and more accurate.

2090
02:18:00,120 --> 02:18:02,940
Look at what we're doing, how long things are getting to this system.

2091
02:18:03,560 --> 02:18:07,280
You can also call this system. Executive inside. Executive, or you say that.

2092
02:18:07,820 --> 02:18:13,320
And so, like I said, it's directly linked to the system that staff from building services,

2093
02:18:13,580 --> 02:18:19,100
planning, fire, public works, probably a few other things we're getting now used to review

2094
02:18:19,100 --> 02:18:24,340
pretty much all types of permits and plans, plans or things like site plans, zoning applications,

2095
02:18:25,360 --> 02:18:29,500
SDEs, UDC variants, sign exceptions, all of that stuff is running through here.

2096
02:18:29,700 --> 02:18:34,660
There are some fire permits that are done through a separate system for them, but pretty much everything

2097
02:18:34,660 --> 02:18:41,680
else is going through the related system, which is enterprise, permitting, and licensing.

2098
02:18:42,620 --> 02:18:47,000
So you can adjust the dates to whatever you want to see, although we don't, you know,

2099
02:18:47,160 --> 02:18:51,560
just a sweet, poor, less couple of days back to, you know, year, year and half.

2100
02:18:52,080 --> 02:18:53,800
You can also set up a comparison period.

2101
02:18:54,040 --> 02:18:58,780
I think this will be more interesting as we go farther in with the data.

2102
02:18:59,840 --> 02:19:03,440
We can kind of see, and if you scroll down to the metrics, you can see.

2103
02:19:03,440 --> 02:19:08,460
So this is showing average dates from application to issuance for permits.

2104
02:19:08,680 --> 02:19:14,720
So right now we're at eight days, which is now about 31% from the same period last year.

2105
02:19:15,760 --> 02:19:18,160
So you can definitely geek out with some of the metrics.

2106
02:19:18,180 --> 02:19:21,780
You can drill into pretty much anything that you want.

2107
02:19:23,360 --> 02:19:30,460
I will tell you this system is really for high level percentages and review times and things like that.

2108
02:19:30,460 --> 02:19:35,700
If you're wanting specific information about a particular permit, you can probably get to it

2109
02:19:35,700 --> 02:19:38,340
eventually here, but it's not going to have this much review data.

2110
02:19:38,580 --> 02:19:41,500
That's what's in the second system I'm going to show you here in a moment.

2111
02:19:41,700 --> 02:19:46,600
So if you're wanting to see the actual building permit issues for a property, this is not the

2112
02:19:46,600 --> 02:19:47,340
system for it.

2113
02:19:47,440 --> 02:19:49,320
This is really, again, your high-level metric.

2114
02:19:50,660 --> 02:19:54,860
So just looking at some of this stuff that you can see average dates from application

2115
02:19:54,860 --> 02:19:59,140
to issue it's permit day, permit to issue it was in 30 days.

2116
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:17,000
We're at 90 percent fruit for those average delay in inspection start time. We want to see that as zero because we almost want to see inspection is getting settled basically as soon as we possibly can for all types of inspections.

2117
02:20:18,380 --> 02:20:26,360
applications received, so in that timeframe January until today, we're at just over 2700 permits.

2118
02:20:27,020 --> 02:20:34,520
average time open, this is for a code cases event, and this is one of our feature requests to Tyler,

2119
02:20:35,900 --> 02:20:39,320
that the company that makes the software is like this to be a little bit more descriptive.

2120
02:20:39,620 --> 02:20:44,520
Sometimes you have to scroll into this to see what it is, so this is describing code cases,

2121
02:20:44,520 --> 02:20:49,980
So for environmental health, the case is open average of 23 days,

2122
02:20:50,160 --> 02:20:52,460
COVID enforcement here in 18 days.

2123
02:20:56,380 --> 02:20:59,620
So like I said, quite a bit of information here.

2124
02:21:00,240 --> 02:21:04,560
So this year we've done almost 6800 infections.

2125
02:21:04,980 --> 02:21:06,820
And again, this is across a lot of different departments.

2126
02:21:07,120 --> 02:21:12,480
It's not just our building inspector, definitely not just our internal folks.

2127
02:21:12,480 --> 02:21:17,080
It also includes, you know, our third party folks that are running their inspections to this is some of

2128
02:21:21,630 --> 02:21:22,270
them.

2129
02:21:22,350 --> 02:21:30,430
Like I said, I'm not going to spend a ton of time going getting out too much, which is what I would encourage you to get in there play with it.

2130
02:21:30,650 --> 02:21:33,570
Drill down and if you have questions or find it, she will definitely let me know.

2131
02:21:34,110 --> 02:21:35,850
Would you set the solicitor a link or something?

2132
02:21:36,010 --> 02:21:42,770
Yes, so you'll get an email from, I don't know if it'll come from, you know, it should have my name in it.

2133
02:21:42,770 --> 02:21:44,930
It'll say sariansly, hasn't by the use to exhibit

2134
02:21:44,930 --> 02:21:46,170
the inside city of Calder.

2135
02:21:46,570 --> 02:21:48,590
And then I think you'll have to go in and set up an account

2136
02:21:48,590 --> 02:21:51,110
because it's not just open right now.

2137
02:21:51,710 --> 02:21:52,990
It's set up where you're going to have an invite

2138
02:21:52,990 --> 02:21:53,970
to get to this.

2139
02:21:53,990 --> 02:22:00,110
Oh, this is like, does this have the ability to click somewhere

2140
02:22:00,110 --> 02:22:02,330
and export to like a CSVL or?

2141
02:22:06,700 --> 02:22:09,380
And I please let me know if there's a feature

2142
02:22:09,380 --> 02:22:11,620
that you're like, I want to be able to do this to my can.

2143
02:22:13,540 --> 02:22:32,480
Sometimes, like right now, I'm viewing it as Aaron, and I just picked him because he has the same permission, basically, as a council, because mine is a little bit overwhelming, and so it may be something that I don't realize that you guys don't have access to and we'll get a fix or figure out whatever we need to do.

2144
02:22:32,480 --> 02:22:37,780
And when Tread does all his stuff, you'll be able to use those CSVs that Greg was asked her about,

2145
02:22:37,780 --> 02:22:38,520
over the days.

2146
02:22:39,100 --> 02:22:39,540
Yeah, Greg.

2147
02:22:40,360 --> 02:22:40,560
Yeah.

2148
02:22:40,760 --> 02:22:40,860
Yeah.

2149
02:22:40,860 --> 02:22:41,580
This is great.

2150
02:22:43,400 --> 02:22:48,420
So then the other thing I wanted to show you, this was something else we talked about at this strategic session.

2151
02:22:48,920 --> 02:22:54,640
Also linked to our permit review and plan system is citizens of service.

2152
02:22:54,700 --> 02:22:56,620
So this is the public basis.

2153
02:22:56,620 --> 02:23:00,340
by anybody anywhere, or the access to the site,

2154
02:23:01,640 --> 02:23:04,120
you could do a lot of things here, even without creating

2155
02:23:04,120 --> 02:23:04,740
an account.

2156
02:23:05,000 --> 02:23:06,680
If you actually want to apply for a permit,

2157
02:23:06,820 --> 02:23:09,180
or schedule an inspection, you do have to have an account.

2158
02:23:09,980 --> 02:23:11,760
But we have pointed a lot of residents

2159
02:23:11,760 --> 02:23:14,800
that are just interested in once their neighbors are doing next.

2160
02:23:15,000 --> 02:23:18,480
So to this site, and they really like it.

2161
02:23:18,520 --> 02:23:21,380
Including some of our residents that are known to call us

2162
02:23:21,380 --> 02:23:23,020
quite a bit about what their neighbors are doing,

2163
02:23:23,120 --> 02:23:24,540
they're really like this site.

2164
02:23:24,540 --> 02:23:29,000
So you can get to a couple of different ways.

2165
02:23:29,160 --> 02:23:31,100
You don't have to take care of it.

2166
02:23:31,380 --> 02:23:32,660
No, no, no, take care of it.

2167
02:23:32,680 --> 02:23:32,960
Right here.

2168
02:23:33,360 --> 02:23:34,980
I don't know.

2169
02:23:35,460 --> 02:23:37,960
So I think there is no use this side.

2170
02:23:38,080 --> 02:23:38,560
I don't know.

2171
02:23:38,820 --> 02:23:39,040
No, no.

2172
02:23:42,020 --> 02:23:43,420
The URL is really simple.

2173
02:23:43,660 --> 02:23:44,720
It's cityofkiller.com.

2174
02:23:44,920 --> 02:23:47,860
Slap CSS, but there's a whole bunch of different ways you can get to it.

2175
02:23:48,000 --> 02:23:54,420
The simplest way is I want to do a platform permit on this main page of the city website.

2176
02:23:54,420 --> 02:23:57,960
But if you drill into any of the community development buildings services,

2177
02:23:58,800 --> 02:24:00,520
you can get back here.

2178
02:24:01,300 --> 02:24:02,200
So, take you here.

2179
02:24:02,520 --> 02:24:03,280
How do you get there?

2180
02:24:03,420 --> 02:24:04,920
You go to the apply for a permit page.

2181
02:24:05,320 --> 02:24:08,300
You can go, yeah, you can, that's kind of that.

2182
02:24:08,920 --> 02:24:10,760
The least clicks I would say.

2183
02:24:11,160 --> 02:24:15,960
You can also go to a apply for a permit or the building.

2184
02:24:15,960 --> 02:24:17,300
What happens when you put that?

2185
02:24:19,950 --> 02:24:20,890
I think I have to take you to a page.

2186
02:24:22,130 --> 02:24:24,790
And then there's a few other places where it's,

2187
02:24:26,790 --> 02:24:29,530
I think it's a metinemic community about on that side, so.

2188
02:24:31,150 --> 02:24:35,170
So going through this page, obviously, you can use it to apply this is where you would need

2189
02:24:35,170 --> 02:24:42,050
to log in our register if you're a contractor, a homeowner, whatever one to make it application

2190
02:24:42,050 --> 02:24:46,830
or pay for an invoice to this is where the vast majority of our permit fees are being paid

2191
02:24:46,830 --> 02:24:47,530
now.

2192
02:24:48,050 --> 02:24:51,610
We don't have a lot of in-person payments, we don't have any people bringing in checks or

2193
02:24:51,610 --> 02:24:59,790
you can request your inspections. Report violations. This is only to ask those.

2194
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:29,950
And in a while back, and then a few features very quickly that I was going to show you, citizen, connect, that takes you to a map of the city. You can put in an address that's going to prompt you, if you've got something correct. And then over here, you can toggle the ranges however you want to.

2195
02:25:29,950 --> 02:25:32,310
You can also download data from here.

2196
02:25:32,410 --> 02:25:34,970
I would not recommend doing that without selecting something,

2197
02:25:34,990 --> 02:25:35,970
so it's going to get a ton.

2198
02:25:36,230 --> 02:25:38,750
But one of the things people really like to know is,

2199
02:25:38,750 --> 02:25:41,170
is there an act of code case?

2200
02:25:41,210 --> 02:25:41,990
Code case.

2201
02:25:42,390 --> 02:25:45,390
Yeah, so we put in our address of 508.

2202
02:25:46,250 --> 02:25:47,490
Katie, you can click.

2203
02:25:47,950 --> 02:25:48,510
Code cases.

2204
02:25:49,930 --> 02:25:51,710
And then it's going to ask you, do you want environment already?

2205
02:25:51,890 --> 02:25:52,490
What code enforcement?

2206
02:25:52,670 --> 02:25:53,710
You probably want code enforcement.

2207
02:25:54,250 --> 02:25:58,050
And then it's going to show you where you've had some of the code

2208
02:25:58,050 --> 02:26:03,710
It's around you and as you scroll in, you can see more specifically where those are at.

2209
02:26:04,550 --> 02:26:10,290
You can create an alert based on the end, and I'm going very fast, but please, if you have questions, let us know.

2210
02:26:10,490 --> 02:26:16,150
But if you can create an alert with the buffer, you set up so that it's going to email you if there's any activity within that one person.

2211
02:26:16,230 --> 02:26:19,110
So I could literally set up an alert to a monitor, and it's house.

2212
02:26:19,190 --> 02:26:22,930
I can email me if it's grass, so I can send the code of course, and if it's always correct.

2213
02:26:23,810 --> 02:26:23,910
Yeah.

2214
02:26:23,910 --> 02:26:28,810
really hate Togra. It's a nice design. Can you complain that right? Yeah. And you can

2215
02:26:28,810 --> 02:26:33,570
set that up for permits or plans or other things, would it be that you want to talk about?

2216
02:26:34,110 --> 02:26:40,570
Keep that up, how should you spend it? This is really cool, man. Yeah. So it'll eliminate

2217
02:26:40,570 --> 02:26:44,570
so like I know I've text messages to you. Like, okay, well, it's the status of this property.

2218
02:26:45,250 --> 02:26:49,390
Not that much, but I have a couple of times. But I can just go in here and look.

2219
02:26:50,170 --> 02:26:53,690
And it's still perfectly fine to hang out with you.

2220
02:26:54,510 --> 02:26:56,910
Yeah, but it's like I think it's an efficiency thing, right?

2221
02:26:57,250 --> 02:26:59,370
It makes self-service sense.

2222
02:26:59,650 --> 02:26:59,830
Self-service sense.

2223
02:26:59,990 --> 02:27:00,470
Self-service sense.

2224
02:27:01,490 --> 02:27:02,810
Self-service sense.

2225
02:27:04,950 --> 02:27:08,230
As this has been promoted socially, so the people didn't know.

2226
02:27:08,290 --> 02:27:11,450
Because I had somebody come in and ask for a permit last week,

2227
02:27:11,610 --> 02:27:13,390
because it was told that it's all online now.

2228
02:27:14,970 --> 02:27:18,370
And that individual seemed to be hurt that he couldn't do it while he was standing there.

2229
02:27:18,370 --> 02:27:22,570
But this seems a lot more efficient, but are we promoting that out yet?

2230
02:27:23,590 --> 02:27:31,730
So we, I will say we did a really heavy push to promote to our contractors and applicants.

2231
02:27:32,950 --> 02:27:35,250
People that were actually applying for things.

2232
02:27:35,710 --> 02:27:38,250
Whenever we first rolled out in St. St. St.

2233
02:27:38,530 --> 02:27:41,510
We did Kiosk in our lobby.

2234
02:27:41,670 --> 02:27:44,090
We did big banners. We did a contractor.

2235
02:27:44,090 --> 02:27:49,590
or, you know, a lot of big companies have, like, permit consultants that handle all of their

2236
02:27:49,590 --> 02:27:53,790
permitting, maybe able to have a big full company, had a lunch and learn. So we did quite

2237
02:27:53,790 --> 02:28:01,470
a bit with the initial rollout and there's still quite a bit of education when somebody comes

2238
02:28:01,470 --> 02:28:05,610
in to our permit text and how to do it, if they're applying for something, I don't know

2239
02:28:05,610 --> 02:28:09,550
that we've done much of anything in terms of just general promotions to the community.

2240
02:28:09,550 --> 02:28:14,370
Now, one-on-one, like when somebody reaches out to our staff, we'll find whatever information

2241
02:28:14,370 --> 02:28:19,210
you're asking for, and we'll sit something I need you to talk to Kelly about, you know,

2242
02:28:19,270 --> 02:28:23,430
for records or questions kind of thing, but we'll also sit, hey, by the way, did you know

2243
02:28:23,430 --> 02:28:27,490
you could do this as in this, especially if it's somebody that's routinely asking for information

2244
02:28:27,490 --> 02:28:29,950
on a particular property that they do not know.

2245
02:28:30,590 --> 02:28:39,270
So, these are all sort of self-examatory, but the search is really kind of what I think is really

2246
02:28:39,270 --> 02:28:45,750
helpful to folks. So again, it's going to search back through all of our planes and permits that

2247
02:28:45,750 --> 02:28:49,410
have been in this system. And again, it's only since 2024, we're going to bring over the

2248
02:28:49,410 --> 02:28:54,510
bad data from the old system. So if you're like, why can't I find, you know, this house that was

2249
02:28:54,510 --> 02:28:59,070
built in 2004, it's not going to be easy. You don't want to put bad data in your system. Exactly. Exactly.

2250
02:29:00,130 --> 02:29:04,590
Who's also going to just cost a whole lot more money to folks and so it can help us move 20 plus

2251
02:29:04,590 --> 02:29:09,670
of track of data into this system. So, there's a lot of different options on how you can

2252
02:29:09,670 --> 02:29:15,070
drill into this. You can also just type in the address and then it will show you all the

2253
02:29:15,070 --> 02:29:19,870
different types of cases, current plans, things like that. So, 1241 KELOPARC wait is the new

2254
02:29:19,870 --> 02:29:22,190
on the calisers in first-of-the-watch location.

2255
02:29:23,290 --> 02:29:24,010
Oh, what's the true?

2256
02:29:26,530 --> 02:29:27,230
I was stupid.

2257
02:29:28,030 --> 02:29:28,270
You had that.

2258
02:29:29,850 --> 02:29:31,310
We got some questions, Sarah.

2259
02:29:31,930 --> 02:29:32,930
You did a lot of that.

2260
02:29:32,930 --> 02:29:33,930
You did 241.

2261
02:29:34,350 --> 02:29:35,570
How's it working for that?

2262
02:29:37,150 --> 02:29:37,730
It's so long.

2263
02:29:37,850 --> 02:29:38,290
It's good.

2264
02:29:38,390 --> 02:29:38,430
How's it working for that?

2265
02:29:39,090 --> 02:29:39,630
It's good.

2266
02:29:40,410 --> 02:29:40,450
It's good.

2267
02:29:40,450 --> 02:29:40,670
It's good.

2268
02:29:49,670 --> 02:29:50,470
It's good.

2269
02:29:50,470 --> 02:29:58,590
So this in our new, this is their actual commercial building permit to build the new one and you'll see the status is issued when you click on that permit

2270
02:29:59,430 --> 02:29:59,970
It's gonna

2271
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:22,540
Take you to a little bit more information. This kind of summer table up here, but the valuation was about how big it is. And then down here in attachments, if it's an issued permit. So it's on something we have in review. It's actually something that's under construction. We've said it's going to turn dirt. If you click on any attachments, you can actually access the stamped approved permit.

2272
02:30:22,540 --> 02:30:34,300
That's cool. And this is for any any type of plan or permit, but if it's not issue yet, it's still in review. It's not the document sure shop here. You can see it. You can see that it's in review. It just wants to say that it's issue.

2273
02:30:34,800 --> 02:30:39,860
So the general public can access this. Yeah, this is all without logging in or registering in the counter.

2274
02:30:44,980 --> 02:30:52,220
So we have all of our old stuff in laser fish, our official repository for documents.

2275
02:30:52,460 --> 02:30:59,020
We just chose not to take all of our old permit documents and plan reviews and staff

2276
02:30:59,020 --> 02:31:03,700
comments and all sorts of other stuff in the old permitting system and move it over into

2277
02:31:03,700 --> 02:31:08,960
We still have all of our crew plan sets for commercial buildings and subdivision class.

2278
02:31:09,200 --> 02:31:12,220
I'll leave. We have all of that. We just didn't move at all over here.

2279
02:31:12,640 --> 02:31:12,740
Cool.

2280
02:31:15,870 --> 02:31:16,890
So how long has this been live?

2281
02:31:19,120 --> 02:31:26,400
This has been live. Basically since we started the plan and permits system in 2024,

2282
02:31:26,760 --> 02:31:32,980
but we have refined it as we've gone on and figured out this isn't showing right or this isn't publishing correctly.

2283
02:31:32,980 --> 02:31:40,920
And like I said, early on, it wouldn't have had great information because we weren't running things.

2284
02:31:42,200 --> 02:31:48,000
But running a ton of permits and plans to the system at first, and we also were learning how to use the system, which we, I think,

2285
02:31:48,640 --> 02:31:51,580
maybe not master but we've got a lot better handle on it now.

2286
02:31:51,840 --> 02:31:58,360
And then the other executives and sites system, is that how we're facing or is that just, you have to have a log in basically?

2287
02:31:58,760 --> 02:32:00,180
That you have to have a log in.

2288
02:32:00,180 --> 02:32:05,620
And this is a pretty name, so it's lunch from me four to the ultimately in our world, but this is pretty there.

2289
02:32:05,880 --> 02:32:16,760
Yeah, and this has been a fateful and my building, data, and the system, but our team just really got in time of training on it in the last six months.

2290
02:32:17,060 --> 02:32:17,500
Oh, cool.

2291
02:32:19,020 --> 02:32:22,200
Yeah, well, it's good. Great. It's anything else, sir.

2292
02:32:22,260 --> 02:32:22,860
Yep, that's it.

2293
02:32:22,900 --> 02:32:24,060
There's everything to be back.

2294
02:32:24,360 --> 02:32:24,780
It's great.

2295
02:32:25,160 --> 02:32:25,620
There's a lot.

2296
02:32:25,620 --> 02:32:27,320
I like the conversation about this.

2297
02:32:27,400 --> 02:32:28,260
We get complaints.

2298
02:32:29,540 --> 02:32:32,600
Conversely, all the processes can go back.

2299
02:32:32,960 --> 02:32:39,740
Well, for example, you did show that we had such an improvement in number of days

2300
02:32:39,740 --> 02:32:43,780
into the big-ended apartment, through, I mean with data, chart debt, what it was considered.

2301
02:32:44,320 --> 02:32:44,700
That's good.

2302
02:32:44,700 --> 02:32:45,520
And the one answer.

2303
02:32:45,860 --> 02:32:51,060
One of the things I think is really telling somebody is having a problem with the particular type of permit.

2304
02:32:51,700 --> 02:33:01,800
You can drill into this and see, okay, well, what type of permit and maybe we're going

2305
02:33:01,800 --> 02:33:10,880
to look at, this will update, you know, if they say, it's pretty small, you know, it's

2306
02:33:10,880 --> 02:33:14,840
taken me two months to get my three-year-old permit.

2307
02:33:15,260 --> 02:33:22,860
Well, if you look at the average time, that may be about right, and when you look at these

2308
02:33:22,860 --> 02:33:25,760
the kind of make sense in terms of what's taking the longest,

2309
02:33:25,760 --> 02:33:28,820
a non-residential renewal, or non-residential new,

2310
02:33:28,820 --> 02:33:31,180
these are martial deletes that are required

2311
02:33:31,180 --> 02:33:35,460
and probably a lot more review and life-sake review

2312
02:33:35,460 --> 02:33:39,720
also on those things and the dislodges that I'm trying to do.

2313
02:33:40,640 --> 02:33:42,020
You know what's going to have, like,

2314
02:33:42,020 --> 02:33:44,540
more extreme cases on both of those push the average stuff?

2315
02:33:44,540 --> 02:33:44,740
Sorry.

2316
02:33:45,740 --> 02:33:45,940
Okay.

2317
02:33:46,400 --> 02:33:47,180
Hey, thanks for this.

2318
02:33:47,580 --> 02:33:48,220
This is a great overview.

2319
02:33:48,420 --> 02:33:49,660
I just, you know,

2320
02:33:49,660 --> 02:33:54,780
It's amazing what you learn when you take the time and thanks for taking time to educate me.

2321
02:33:54,920 --> 02:33:56,080
I presume the colleagues.

2322
02:33:57,340 --> 02:33:57,940
So,

2323
02:34:00,860 --> 02:34:03,980
that concludes our work session.

2324
02:34:08,250 --> 02:34:11,130
A couple of executive session items that you've got to compete.

2325
02:34:13,730 --> 02:34:17,410
So, I'll go ahead and restate.

2326
02:34:17,930 --> 02:34:21,710
Council is going to executive session under Section 551-074.

2327
02:34:21,710 --> 02:34:25,230
the executive government code, personal and now matter to deliver it, you've been

2328
02:34:25,230 --> 02:34:29,210
implanted by issuing assignments due to this plan, or dismissal of a public officer employee.

2329
02:34:29,450 --> 02:34:34,530
Section 550, 71 costs a consultation with attorney close meeting, a governmental body may not

2330
02:34:34,530 --> 02:34:37,630
conduct a private consultation with the attorney to step in the government's body, see if

2331
02:34:37,630 --> 02:34:41,030
advice is attorney got a venue of consultation or someone off their own wishening.

2332
02:34:41,990 --> 02:34:45,730
Do you need the attorney to go from a body in order to just find rules of professional conduct?

2333
02:34:46,030 --> 02:34:46,710
I'm so informed.

2334
02:34:46,710 --> 02:34:47,130
Good.

2335
02:34:48,130 --> 02:34:54,230
Um, let's say barp taxes, put the chapter in the section of 5507 to the section of code

2336
02:34:54,230 --> 02:34:54,630
liberation.

2337
02:34:54,850 --> 02:34:55,830
We're going to be real property.

2338
02:34:56,130 --> 02:34:59,810
Close meeting in a governmental body, may conduct close meeting to liberate the purchase.

2339
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:21,220
Change, please, revive, roll property of deliberation, and open meeting, would have a detrimental effect on the position of government body negotiation with the first person, and the agenda item, they're listed. We have the point of evaluation, please, actually, in the west, like that, center, Beverly, Beverly, Grove, Gold Coast, face to development discussion, and then 1,000 parquet of parkway, which is in that's orient. All right, we're exactly.

2340
02:35:32,500 --> 02:35:38,880
Okay, it's 10-0-4 p.m. We're back from an executive session session.

2341
02:35:38,880 --> 02:35:45,720
There is an action to be taken as a release to the item under Section 551-072,

2342
02:35:45,720 --> 02:35:54,360
1000 Bear Creek Parkway, that's related to the Anatatorium, and it's the world of this council.

2343
02:35:55,120 --> 02:36:01,400
I believe that we sell that property, the real property, to Keller and the Financial School District.

2344
02:36:02,880 --> 02:36:07,780
What was the value that we appraised here in?

2345
02:36:07,780 --> 02:36:12,000
Total overall value is $2,692,000.

2346
02:36:12,500 --> 02:36:14,320
Okay, $2,692,000.

2347
02:36:14,640 --> 02:36:16,600
So, it's $2,027,000.

2348
02:36:17,100 --> 02:36:21,780
And then what's the sale price that we're $675?

2349
02:36:22,460 --> 02:36:23,180
$675.

2350
02:36:23,440 --> 02:36:23,840
Yes, sir.

2351
02:36:24,000 --> 02:36:25,280
Yeah, I'm glad it.

2352
02:36:26,440 --> 02:36:27,140
It's replayed.

2353
02:36:27,260 --> 02:36:27,660
It's replayed.

2354
02:36:27,660 --> 02:36:27,940
It's replayed.

2355
02:36:28,660 --> 02:36:33,240
So, you know, I think in cooperation and collaboration

2356
02:36:33,240 --> 02:36:38,680
with the school district to maintain use as an auditorium and to get our folks back

2357
02:36:38,680 --> 02:36:45,540
swimming in the pool again. I think it's the right thing to do to clean up the

2358
02:36:45,540 --> 02:36:49,360
the legal documents so that the way that way color families can get back swimming

2359
02:36:49,360 --> 02:36:55,620
at the auditorium that we all love that term. So thanks for the work and we go

2360
02:36:55,620 --> 02:37:01,800
shading that price. To be clear if the building or property under the

2361
02:37:01,800 --> 02:37:05,280
agreement, failed to be used for an educational purpose, the minor standing is pursuant

2362
02:37:05,280 --> 02:37:09,700
to state law, river back to the city of Calderite, is that right, stand, are you turning

2363
02:37:09,700 --> 02:37:10,360
this up?

2364
02:37:12,580 --> 02:37:17,080
Well, I also believe this school district, the board actually, it's a school where all right,

2365
02:37:17,160 --> 02:37:18,240
take action on this.

2366
02:37:18,400 --> 02:37:19,520
It's either our last school board meeting.

2367
02:37:21,580 --> 02:37:21,820
Great.

2368
02:37:22,100 --> 02:37:23,540
Well, thanks for the work that went into this.

2369
02:37:23,540 --> 02:37:25,940
I'm excited for the kids and families to get back in the pool.

2370
02:37:26,020 --> 02:37:29,000
Thanks to the school board for supporting this as well.

2371
02:37:29,000 --> 02:37:40,000
So, I'll be happy to make a motion and my motion goes to approve a resolution that authorizes the city manager to enter into and negotiate a contract.

2372
02:37:40,880 --> 02:37:47,700
So, bill property at 1,000 Bear Creek Parkway and any amendments necessary to execute that agreement.

2373
02:37:48,180 --> 02:37:48,720
Is there a second?

2374
02:37:50,720 --> 02:37:51,000
All right.

2375
02:37:51,240 --> 02:37:56,320
Are you willing to do me and make a clear that we all know it's just a land under the building itself in the parking lot?

2376
02:37:56,980 --> 02:37:57,500
Right.

2377
02:37:57,500 --> 02:38:08,680
Yeah, well stated I incorporate that into my motion, so emotion who is the second Councilwoman Brennan

2378
02:38:09,520 --> 02:38:13,520
All right, all in favor say aye aye any opposed

2379
02:38:13,520 --> 02:38:14,160
Brother

2380
02:38:16,810 --> 02:38:19,450
Lucian passes six to zero

2381
02:38:19,450 --> 02:38:21,090
Good work.

2382
02:38:23,600 --> 02:38:25,480
Do we get everything right?

2383
02:38:25,720 --> 02:38:25,800
Yeah.

2384
02:38:26,540 --> 02:38:27,440
Aaron, are you good?

2385
02:38:27,640 --> 02:38:27,880
We're good.

2386
02:38:27,980 --> 02:38:28,920
You want me to reset anything?

2387
02:38:29,160 --> 02:38:30,080
Oh, we're good.

2388
02:38:30,380 --> 02:38:30,520
Awesome.

2389
02:38:31,080 --> 02:38:38,540
All right. We do have one more item. We have a hardworking city council. So we're going to go back into executive session.

2390
02:38:38,920 --> 02:38:44,100
So we can consider that more additional item. We're just finishing our performance evaluations.

2391
02:38:44,920 --> 02:38:55,020
So we'll go back to executive section. Excuse me. Executive session under section 551074 of the

2392
02:38:55,020 --> 02:38:59,280
assignment, duties, discipline, for dismissal of a public officer or employee, specificly has

2393
02:38:59,280 --> 02:39:02,900
a relationship, city manager, forms of isolation, because Kelly, we already got your

2394
02:39:02,900 --> 02:39:05,060
thought, and do a great work.

2395
02:39:05,420 --> 02:39:05,980
Thank you.

2396
02:39:06,240 --> 02:39:06,860
All right, we're exactly.