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We will call the meeting to order at 8.53 a.m., and we have a quorum. And there is no one signed up to address council. So we will move on to welcome and opening remarks. Do you have any see through or do you? Anybody else have any?

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Well, I'll just say that I know this is asking a lot for a long day together.

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and also budget and council tonight,

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that I appreciate everybody's efforts today,

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and hopefully we will have a positive outcome today.

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Would you like to go next?

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Councilman Ricken?

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Well, this was, say, this workshop.

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It's been to me the first one, then.

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I've always been this opinion,

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and when they say additional dollar tricks,

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I still remember.

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Same here.

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And new councilwoman.

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Well, I'm happy to be here and looking forward to learning what I need to learn.

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Your next, sir, any opening comments?

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Great, great, great day.

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That's a nice rolling.

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Helen, is that it?

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Okay.

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All right.

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Good morning.

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All right.

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You can take your mind, please.

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I'm so sorry.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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Testing?

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Okay.

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All right. So I'll ask, I'll start asking the question as my computer starts to wake up.

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When was the last time that anybody knows this council or anybody having some type of retreat

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or setting like this? Typically settings, this type of retreat would be tables, moving around

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this type of thing, it's a dice, but we're going to get through that. One was the last time

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that we know of that this room three years ago, KCDC, and Council to the Joint Venture.

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Yeah, I think it was a big square table, a little bit more casual, and we had a oversight

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by Mrs. Knight, who's from the part that we had.

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I'll remember who's tonight, but go ahead.

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First case, so a couple years ago.

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Well, just to go over, obviously, we have breakfast that will be a working lunch with us

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and KCDC, from 11 and 1, the consultants will be here.

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I wanted to get some form of continuity amongst this group and direction and get your direction

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as far as apartment priorities, as far as budget priorities, and where we are headed into the lawn run.

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Obviously in my tenure here, this is the first time that we get a chance to come together.

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In this way, where it's not, I don't want to call it, it's not a form meeting because it is.

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But it's a less formal, less driven meeting.

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I want there to be open dialogue as to what the priorities are.

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So as I mentioned to some of you, when we've had our one-on-one, we have not had a chance to have your one-on-one yet.

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I go over priorities as they were given to me by the council.

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So, you guys operate as a body, providing policy direction and we go out and actually deliver as a staff.

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I want to make sure that there has been no changes in that direction or policy or direction that we're headed moving forward.

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So, some of the parties that I was given and now I'm going back to technically three councils ago was in relations in regards to where our area of focus was.

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so public safety was definitely number one. I'd like to know what the strategy or

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thought is going to be on public safety. We've taken on a different approach, I

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would call it a gorilla approach if you will. Some of the two gorilla marketing

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approach from the police department where we're not waiting for things to happen,

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we're coming forward and trying to be preventive as much as we can. More proactive

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effective than reactive,

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chemo being as small as it is, incident happened.

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So public safety was kind of that first centered approach that we had.

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After public safety, community development or community quality of life.

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It's evident in the fact that we are a tourist town.

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There's the boardwalk, there's the restaurants,

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there's the walkability and places that we'd like to get better.

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obviously never says on our parks with 57 anchor park we've got the guest center down the street

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We're kind of creating that synergy.

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So that's been kind of the second focus and in no particular order, right? And then third has been a focus on the finance, trying to drive down cost, trying to drive up sales tax in order to hopefully get to a point where we can reduce the burden on the taxpayer.

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Those are the three lanes, if you will, that I was given when we started also caring over from the short time that I had with Aaron. That's where we kind of laid out a road map

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of how are we going to attack those three different things?

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So at the time we had a couple of vacancies in PD.

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Obviously the chief was hired, vacancies were filled.

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Thankfully knock on wood we haven't had a vacancy

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and if we have we've had somebody fill it pretty quickly

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because we have so many reserves on staff.

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That's been a very welcome sight for me.

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Being coming from different places where public safety sometimes

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it's hard to get those resistance filled.

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I will tell you that there is a challenge with pay.

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Okay, we are by far one of the lower paying police departments.

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So these officers are here because they want to be here, okay?

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They're here because they want to be here.

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And I will give, you know, Chief is Flowers, he does a very good job of making the officers

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feel wanted, appreciated, and he does a very good job with team building and getting them

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to be engaged and so forth.

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But, police work is not, although it is a science, no two days are the same, anything

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could happen, be derailed or anything else.

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So we know what that aspect of it is.

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That's been the aspect of PD and the public safety side.

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Another general direction that I was given when I got here was to try to reduce turnover

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in the city in general.

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I know that that was something near and dear to some of the council's heart when I started.

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Again, I say some of the council then compared it now because there's only two of you that were then here then that are here now

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So turnover was something that we we want to try to prevent

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Yes, if if you look at salary comparisons, I'll start there. They're very different from other cities

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Okay, people are here because they want to be here if you look at comparisons of benefits

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I think we're getting much stronger. We took a very very big step last year in the eight to one

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All cities are 7 to 1, if you don't know what that is, we're involved in TMRS where 7% is paid for by the employee and the city contributes and matches 2 to 1.

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The strength of our actual retirement plan is so strong that it's not a full 2 to 1, it's actually a little bit less.

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I think last I checked it was about 11% because of the strength of what the pool has.

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With that, we decided to make the decision to go up to 8% because it was not going to cost the city any extra money.

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So I think it was a very bold move by the city.

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We were one of the first in the regions to do that and staff really appreciated it.

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They really, really did.

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I think it was something that a lot of folks didn't quite understand.

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So I'm giving you kind of a recap of what you've done from last year to this year and the emphasis of what it's been.

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We haven't added many positions only the police officer position that we've added as well as the one public works position

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So the staff itself has stayed the same size for the most part

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Not not much growth

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Your population is grown

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The areas of responsibility have grown

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We're doing more than we used to do

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Arguably your public works staff used to be much larger

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Some of the stuff we do is outsource, some of the stuff we do in-house.

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So there's that give and take, and we're always going to find whatever the efficiency is.

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If it is more efficient for us to do it in-house, then we're going to do it in-house.

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If it's more efficient, do it out-of-house, we'll do it out-of-house.

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And we're going to constantly evaluate those things.

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I want to make sure that I still have your approval, but your vote of confidence

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will continue evaluating those things as we go, because it's always ever changing.

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Are there any comments on that part so far?

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Has anyone done a comparison on pay on the other side of city call as far as administrative

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sign?

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Well, we've followed is the HGAC study.

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I can tell you that if I go down the line, two-thirds of the staff is probably underpaid compared

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to other cities.

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Now, the problem is it's hard to match like size cities because if you match us to a smaller

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community of 2,000 people, then you're going to be like what we're overpaid.

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That's what I've always found over the years is that because we're so atypical with all of this

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years and we're in all the different haves. It's not apples to apples in other words when those

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numbers come in and we do come care.

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And it's usually a budget when we do that. And I'll also tell you it's a very unique situation in that your town of 2000, but it feels like you're a town of 20,000. And I'll be honest and saying that. And sometimes it feels like more, depending on the day and the evening, the event or whatever else is going on. So hence why you have a town of 2000 that has 20 officers, right? That's that's that that's that.

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push and pull if you will.

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Yeah, you look at like stores, they're about the same land mass, they're about the same

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constituent numbers, or resident numbers, but yet they have police officer, and that's

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more typical of what our numbers indicate.

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So for us it's a little bit different, obviously we have different challenges, right, than

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they do.

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So having said that, our productivity's up.

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For a while, we weren't running as efficient when it came to certain things.

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And I walked in here, there was some challenges in certain departments and courts and so forth that we've,

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we've, to we've turned around, the numbers show it.

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We've still got challenges in other places.

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I think we could do a better job with parking.

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I think that that is a potential revenue stream unless, you know, there's a potential discussion of reducing the parking and so forth.

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I want us to have a holistic approach as to how we're going to address things in the long-term moving forward.

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Last night we had a KCDC meeting and we have two KCDC board members here that can probably provide a better recap than I can.

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But there needs to be alignment in my opinion and again it's your decision between KCDC and the actual council.

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Two separate entities but still similar in common goals.

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There have been suggestions.

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We took the suggestion that I was made about the management fee that I was discussed.

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A couple of the CIP projects were actually discussed, including even some sidewalks situation.

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And I'll go ahead and talk freely about that one.

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Let me talk about the city secretary's office first before I get to that.

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We've had a challenge with records.

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Okay?

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We've had a challenge with records.

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and Natasha if I speak out of turn in any which way please correct me.

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That's fine.

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I mean to do so.

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So the city's records being digitized are an ongoing challenge because no sooner

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that we start to digitize some there's more coming.

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The pace and the staff that we have I want you to understand that

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But if you pull out PD, you pull out public works, you pull out the court operations.

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You add Jerry into our mix because of the hats that she wears.

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We're running the entire city with normally seven positions.

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Okay?

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So that's kind of the challenge that we're dealing with.

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So there's not a whole lot of time to do this and do that.

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There's also not a lot of flexibility in the budget to just go really not adding positions.

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So we understand that.

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Is there a need?

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Yes.

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But can we add at 10 hours here 15 hours there and so forth? That's why we rely so much on consultants or part time or what we're doing now

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We're starting some some some internships

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Three of them

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To start here within this next two started yesterday and one hopefully the other one will be here this week

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But going back to the city secretary's office

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There's so much that goes on between the digitizing over 60 years of records

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Okay. If you go upstairs and you look at where our storage stuff is, there's plans

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up there that are not digitized. We're not. We are looking at getting a large enough

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scanner, or in this case we call it a plotter, that we'd be able to scan some of those documents

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because I read something happens, a lot of those plans are not, are right now not replaceable.

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So when I tell you that's a challenge, could we pay for a company to do that?

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Yes, but we don't have $400, $500,000 to go get that done right now, okay?

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We just don't, so we've been doing it in-house as much as possible.

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The goal is to have everything digital because we want to be as responsive as possible

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when folks have a question, whether it's through PIR, whether it's a resident saying,

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hey I want to do, I need this, I can't find my, whatever the situation may be, we want

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to make sure that we're responsive as possible.

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And having to dig through some of this stuff is a challenge sometimes.

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Okay. It's a challenge. So that is one of the biggest projects that the city secretary's office has handled, it started to handle. That's why when you go down our hallway, all those boxes are there. It's because that is a labor of love having to scan those boxes. And as many boxes as are there, there's probably two to three times that many upstairs that we have to go through the process as well. That's going to take us several years to accomplish. Now, I will give credit.

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the Tasha's office has been handling that as much as possible and moving us over to laser fish

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and to try to get us online as much as possible so we can be as digital-friendly as possible to

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stop using so much paper which is why sometimes we even ask for you guys if you don't need your

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stuff printed to allow us to give you a tablet so you can see it digitally right because paper becomes

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just clutter and it's obviously we're trying to keep costs down not just to cost the papers gone up

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the cost of toner, the cost of the copies, everything also included has gone up.

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But it's also time consuming.

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So we're trying to be as efficient and lean as possible.

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The use of AI, the use of all these things has made us as efficient as we possibly can be.

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Is there going to be more room?

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Yeah, more than likely.

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But right now, I think the biggest challenge that the city secretary's office is having,

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is having the tools needed in digitization to be responsive as possible

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to as many requests as come in.

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Again, it's not just PIR request.

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A might be a request from a contractor.

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It might be, hey, where's our easement?

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Is it here or is it here?

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Those are challenges.

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Those are challenges.

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Did I miss anything on the digitization side?

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Please, this is open discussion.

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But we do have a big problem with PIRs too.

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We do not have the staff to support processing PIRs,

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and it's about to exceed last year's numbers already,

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and it's for calendar year.

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How much time has spent on that?

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It depends on what they're asking for.

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A lot of these requests, it's the quantity

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that they're asking for, because they'll say

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any and all documents for a certain time period

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or all emails for a certain time period

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for all employees.

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and it just depends on what they're asking for basically.

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So it could take eight hours, it could take three weeks,

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depending on what they're asking for.

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And if they pay for it, we have to process it.

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And it's also, it's not just digging up the record,

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but then you have to go through the record and then

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attack the record.

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You have to go through and read that.

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And that's the bigger challenge tied to that.

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And until we find another way to do it.

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What's helpful sometimes when we can pick up the phone and ask the request or look help us help you.

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Can you narrow down the needle and the hang stack a little bit?

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Because sometimes when it's, for example, I mean, this one happens all the time.

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I need any and all text messages from the city administrator's phone.

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I got to go to to to to to attach his office, she's got to download every single message.

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Then she's got to go through and say, all right, what has to come out?

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Is there anything in here that has all the qualifying factors, data birth, anything?

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Pretty much anything in there that needs to be taken out.

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That request comes in every couple of months.

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Any and all emails. Any and all emails between Jacqueline Wheeland and Natasha Hinton.

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I mean, that may not be a lot, but it may be more. It may be a lot.

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And so that's kind of one of the biggest challenges.

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And then sometimes we get the same request over and over again.

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So you have to fulfill it in different ways.

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Sometimes people don't get what you're looking for and it just asks for what you're looking

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for.

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I think that would make things easier but there's a process, people have that open ability

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to do that and until as a system we find that, you know, better way to do that there is no

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way to do it.

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There's nothing we can do but throw resources at it.

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There is no magic wand we can say, here's all of our stuff online, you know, because a lot of that stuff is what it is, you know.

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I wish we could do that. I wish we could just say here it is.

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Here's everything, right? But there's some stuff that can't be that way because it has to be that way.

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It wouldn't even be on anybody's mind, you know, but they're just like, you know,

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yeah, but Caesar, I think looking outside the box and not just Kima, but I mean in

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talking to Natasha yesterday, I think we really need to look at, and I don't think

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needs to be Kima. I think it's needs to be you and the mayor talking collectively as

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Galveston County and Harris County talking to Bonham and that group we're going to

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session. I'm calling Bonham about it. Because I think it needs to be collected, have a

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meeting and go over the concerns that these folks are having with the PIRs.

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People are building their businesses on PIRs, which is off the taxpayers' back, which is not right.

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Can you elaborate on that comment please?

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I don't.

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The building of business, can you elaborate? Yeah, we have people that are doing the citations out of our police department to know who has to go through driving school to know who to solicit directly. Yeah, so we're building their business. We get, we get, we get. They're leads off of. We'll get, we'll get questions like any law permits issued in the last six months. When now somebody can now be a carpet cleaning company, whatever the case is right and go do that.

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And so, it's a way of building leads without paying for lead if you will.

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And there's a lot of that spare to pay.

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Well, yes.

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You can pay for it.

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They're not in the pay for it out of business.

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So, I mean, that's not what the intent of that was.

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I don't think it's the moral maker, and I don't know that they realize what's being done.

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Right.

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You know, we have charged thousands of dollars for something.

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I think that was brought to their attention.

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I think there's some corrections made to current policies to help, not just chemo, in every city

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across Texas.

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I mean, I think it's something that needs to be had,

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but it needs to be had collectively,

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not just to chem up 3,000 people,

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griping about PIRs because we're not the only one.

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I mean, you can call Aaron Hill.

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No, I don't know.

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It's, you know, Odessa.

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I'm like, I don't know.

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It's every city.

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We get by anywhere we call.

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It's just a matter of collectively putting a group.

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Not a obvious group, but, you know,

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just a group of people who are actually feeling it.

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We can take advantage of mayor and council meeting

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the next one we have, at least talking about it.

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I just think we need to be, I don't know

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that they understand.

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I mean, they got so much under play.

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If you don't bring that to them, and they understand the full effects of what it's the effects it's causing at the local level, they can't address an issue they don't understand.

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So I think that we educated them. I think there's an opportunity for the next session to be some modifications.

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And I'm not trying to do anything with transparency. I don't think so much of you will build a business off my tax payer dollar.

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That's what they're doing.

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Right. No, it's very fair and it's it's also funds that we can't use to go pick spot holes and go

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Fix sidewalks

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Counseling Roar and go. I'm going to just

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Is it possible to

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But isn't it possible to when council mortist talks about

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reintroducing or redefining

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what this is, this PIR is supposed to be, you know, you talked about it at a certain

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point, you do charge, what if there was a way to develop a system that you were

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charged of minimal, like a rising scale, would that be possible?

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Well, you want to clarify that Natasha, what is the pay, what is the overall aspect of

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the payment for one? I know a lot of people don't pay, but then some do.

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Yeah, there's the state sets what we're allowed to charge depending on what they're asking for

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If it hits a certain point like a certain page count or if it's over $40 we do a cost estimate letter

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Or if there's manipulation of data, which would be reductions

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It has to hit a certain threshold and we can only charge like $15 per hour to do reductions or

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Ten cents per page

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depending on if they're doing paper copies, the state sets all of that.

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We have no control over that.

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So also, when she says $15 an hour for redaction, both Natasha's hourly rate and the city attorney who would be doing redactions are labor than that.

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So we're going in the whole redactions at that point, regardless of who's doing them.

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I guess some think our administration understands what has transformed in this arena.

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I think the intent was right.

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I just think it's blossomed and became a, I'll be

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right here.

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There's people using it in the wrong way that it was not intended for in the original legislation.

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I don't think people understood how it could blossom like this.

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So I think it's more of an educating one and just showing the heartburn and the pains

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that we're having and see if there's any relief to be had because I don't think this was

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there in Seattle when they I don't think that's transparency to me.

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One of one of the terms that we've used is that

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PIRs have have have become weaponized.

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I mean, and that's that's kind of the

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that's

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Well, no, well, the reason why I say that is because

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some folks have the true intent.

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Some folks have the true intent, but because the method exists the way that it does

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it allows folks to escape that line and use it for things that may be in a

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various. I mean if the public has the right to know what's going on. There's nothing

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we can hide. It's great for us to sit here and keep complaining about it because we've

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been complaining about it for three years and I've been sitting there but I don't

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know that we've ever taken it to the next level because we have no jurisdiction of

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worth this. So we got to start educate the people that do have the jurisdiction

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because Dennis Paul is a new senator.

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Right.

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Directly no wind and he's local.

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So I'm like, why don't we start sitting down and have education with these folks so that we can try to get a sponsor revealed into? There's got to be something going on. We can not the only city that's complaining about this. There's no way. Well, I think we're one of the only ones that's actually on afraid of being vocal about it. Some folks are just stammering and clamoring and I do anything, but we were actually being vocal about it and trying to find solutions. One of the things that we've talked about doing was, is there a way to have and we've asked, you know,

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So, the AG's office for opinion on this is how to be able to do third-party charging, right?

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Natasha's got 40 hours, right?

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If she has no additional outside help, there's 40 hours or stuff that has to be done within those 40 hours that are tied to her responsibility.

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So, if all of a sudden you know the people we need to know what I'm saying is as we do this,

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Well, my idea for the third party charging is to try to get this stuff done in a way where we can

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Look at other ways of getting this done. It's like I tell residents sometimes I there's issues in the

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I'm not aware of but if you bring it to me and we have a conversation, I don't have a problem researching it

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Trying to figure out the best path forward because I'm not aware of it. I mean, I can't be everywhere all the time

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And not in every community on a daily basis, so if there's something out there

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I hope they do come to me because I don't mind to put in the time and researching it

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I've been back to 1963, I think, in records for chemo,

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working on issues that we've corrected stuff

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in the 1970s.

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So I mean, it's not like we're scared to go through the work.

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I mean, we've been doing the work, so I mean,

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I can only fix what I'm aware of.

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OK.

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Well, let's go ahead.

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And I'll be brief, because I know we want to stay on schedule.

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As far as there are tools for auto reduction,

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Number two, and I don't know the city secretary is going to have to give me the proper term, but there are records retention, and this is at a state level as far as records being retained.

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so that and then my big and again this is purely my opinion we talk about being

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proactive not only looking at open records request but what is this it's

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open record request of us are in my opinion a symptom of the public be it public

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with the press not knowing what's going on.

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And just try it to be as much as legally possible

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to be forthright in announcing that information,

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passing that information.

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Oh, well, there it is.

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So now I know, that's all I want to say.

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No, no, and that's a fair argument.

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And I think we've done a pretty good job

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of being more forthcoming and transparent because a lot of folks in other cities keep everything tight to the chest and so forth.

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I guess there's other cities that do stuff that we don't do.

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I mean, we do things that other people don't do.

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But when we're constantly being asked any male emails, that's not searching for transparency.

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That's searching for something or trying to create something or to write a narrative of something that maybe to turn it

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in any which way for someone's gain or for someone's way of trying to manipulate whatever

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the story is. And like I've told everybody since I got here, there's nothing to hide

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here, right? There's nothing to hide here. And if anybody wants to come in and spend time

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with me in the office sitting with meetings on me, I have no problem with that. And I think

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that's always been open to folks. So on the next subject, if it's okay, anything else

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So you'd like to comment on it since you're across.

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The only thing I would like to add is when you do talk to Dr.

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Greg Bonan or whoever you need to speak with,

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if they could suggest longer time frames

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to respond to open records for smaller cities,

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because we are held at the same standards as larger cities

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with more staff and it's kind of not fair.

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Because we still have the same 10 business days

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to respond as a larger city with five to ten staff members to process these records.

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And we are a staff of one and a half.

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Good point.

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All right.

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Let's go to PD.

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I guess could you see?

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Oh, sorry guys.

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We don't want to ask another question because I mean, we just don't have to address.

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Could you reach out to the other city managers in Galveston County, or maybe the mayor, reach

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out to the mayor's, and maybe get a dialogue of what Santa Fe, Hitchcock, whatever else

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feeling as well and maybe we can do it compared

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Mr. Anderson, when are we getting some surpassed last year, in August of this year, on PIRs, so they're increasing dramatically year after year. Is everybody else feeling the same effects? Are we just an anomaly that's right here? I've had no discussions and there's an ebb and a flow. A lot of it is tied to the politics of the individual city. So depending on political differences or political involvement or lack thereof,

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sometimes that will. But that might give us a direction to have a conversation with

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bottom-end in it's that's Paul and that how people how people are victimized

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and people sitting in these seats not just chemo I was talking about just

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across the board because you see them social media everywhere. They're using

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this as a tool to attack people and people didn't even realize there's people

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sitting on the other side of this deal. Most of us are trying to make the right

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I don't want to say in whole, it's like flock.

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I don't think 99.9% of police officers are probably

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doing the right way.

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And that 0.1% is cause of social media blitz over flock.

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It's the same way probably in city council is.

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Most people are trying to do the right thing.

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Not saying 100% because there's bad apples.

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And there's something that you do in life.

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So but I mean, I think it's directed at, you know,

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it's just like McKinney.

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I don't know if anybody's watched McKinney,

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but the city council is getting pounded up there.

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And they did everything right.

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They did everything that they swore north to just because your religion belief might be different

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But your oath says you're going to do what's right and that's what they did and I know they're just getting

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Glitterated. Well, I don't be all kept up with that. That's just crazy

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But that council is going through right now and all mayors and everybody else because they actually did what was right

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I'm like, you might not believe I mean say how to say beliefs is what?

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The issue might have been but I mean they did everything right

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Well, I think with every and perfect segue to go into PD because the flock hammer something that I wanted to talk about here, as far as direction, PD obviously being that we have four state roads that intersect through here.

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There's 96, 518, 2094, and 146.

437
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:23,040
They all intersect in arguably less than a two mile space.

438
00:32:25,220 --> 00:32:28,760
That is a large traffic count going to and from.

439
00:32:29,980 --> 00:32:34,760
You got upward to 46, 47,000 vehicles that are on 146 alone every day.

440
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:45,800
We are a prime location for all types of nefarious activity because of how transient we are, you can be in and out of here in no time.

441
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:52,540
My understanding of flock and I'll just, I won't try not to say the name flock, it's

442
00:32:52,540 --> 00:32:58,620
like using cigarettes and all more, right, or saying fast food and say McDonald's, right?

443
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:05,400
Because flock is just a brand, but LPR cameras themselves are a license plate reading, sorry,

444
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:11,200
I try to get away from acting sometimes, but these LPR cameras exist to be able to scan these

445
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,820
licenses and try to come back with information.

446
00:33:14,580 --> 00:33:19,460
So now, through driving records, you can find out if somebody might be nefarious, if somebody

447
00:33:19,460 --> 00:33:23,240
is driving without an actual driver's license or driving without a valid registration,

448
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,840
or if there's an amber alert or a silver alert tied to that vehicle, that was the intent

449
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:29,540
and the focus.

450
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:30,660
And you said 0.1.

451
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:38,720
I would say it's 0.00001, because no, and it's sad that some folks have used that in a way

452
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,060
that shouldn't have been used.

453
00:33:41,860 --> 00:33:45,840
But the idea is it is a full force multiplier because we can't do that.

454
00:33:46,260 --> 00:33:48,720
I'll go ahead and talk about something that happened in South Florida.

455
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,100
All I was there, the whole red light camera thing, right?

456
00:33:52,740 --> 00:33:55,340
I don't know how that affected Texas or not, but red light cameras,

457
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,240
so you don't know, there was a camera at certain red lights that would get ran.

458
00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:01,340
It would take a picture of the license plate and they would record you.

459
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,840
And it was, I mean, it seemed to work great.

460
00:34:03,980 --> 00:34:05,240
I got caught in a couple of of myself.

461
00:34:05,940 --> 00:34:07,340
You know, the ticket gets mail into your house.

462
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,660
You click on the video, it's kind of hard to deny.

463
00:34:09,660 --> 00:34:11,900
I, you know, and you just had to pay the ticket.

464
00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:16,340
Well, apparently, as the folklore goes,

465
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,560
a certain somebody who was at some type of state office

466
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,960
was caught in a vehicle with somebody

467
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:22,880
they weren't supposed to be with

468
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,020
and it was shown on that camera.

469
00:34:25,020 --> 00:34:26,800
That's what ended up being allegedly

470
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,700
the root of the end of red light cameras.

471
00:34:28,820 --> 00:34:32,100
Folks felt that it was an invasion of privacy in that sense.

472
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,560
All it was is we can't have a police officer

473
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,900
at every single red light, right?

474
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,120
Try to pull people over because they pull

475
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,320
and they actually run the actual red light.

476
00:34:41,900 --> 00:34:42,900
That's a safety thing.

477
00:34:44,020 --> 00:34:46,380
The intent of these LPRs is a safety thing.

478
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,080
It's a force multiplier.

479
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,380
It allows us to have more in different locations.

480
00:34:50,140 --> 00:34:54,600
We've been lucky enough to get some grant funding to pay for these block cameras

481
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,240
that allow them to be force multiplier.

482
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,860
So you've got a situation now where some folks in a residential

483
00:34:59,860 --> 00:34:59,960
.

484
00:35:00,540 --> 00:35:08,520
We had a meeting with, we met with them and they said, hey, please come talk to us about these flock cameras. We understood that there was a concern. We went out there.

485
00:35:10,620 --> 00:35:18,820
If there's a concern and folks want the cameras removed, we could oblige to that. But we need communication.

486
00:35:31,740 --> 00:35:37,520
They're the ones that brought this topic up and they actually split it with the city 50-50 originally

487
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:43,900
Not only do they want the security of it, but they also wanted eyes on some critical assets at this town

488
00:35:43,900 --> 00:35:48,840
Because that's people probably aren't aware as we were we're single-sourced water source

489
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,980
And if somebody was to contaminate that water at the main source

490
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:58,400
Theoretically could kill the whole town. Yeah, so I mean, there were some issues there that they were trying to rectify

491
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:05,500
emergency response I guess or emergency management so that's how that originated so

492
00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:08,220
that's what got us started and of course the police department's take it to

493
00:36:08,220 --> 00:36:12,100
the next level and grant funding added more because we saw the results it's

494
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:17,120
all the benefits of what this could do for the town as far as and the chemo

495
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,360
thing has brought up the attention in this town and it was their H.O.A. they brought

496
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:26,080
it to us that they wanted a portal and if we could find a way of doing it could

497
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:32,740
We put them in their entrances and that was their HOA that came to us and asked for help and we did provided that help

498
00:36:32,740 --> 00:36:37,400
Which we put the camera in the wrong place. I'm not gonna disagree with that. It shouldn't been on the other side of the sidewalk

499
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:42,360
And that's what caused the controversy, but that was just an oh, somebody's part

500
00:36:43,060 --> 00:36:48,980
But I mean, I've had several people in town call me about this issue and my first comment is when you give it to your cell phone

501
00:36:48,980 --> 00:36:52,560
And you no longer drop a vehicle. I'll have a conversation with you because everything trash

502
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:58,020
Right, I mean, you know, everything we do across computers, phones every day now is being

503
00:36:58,020 --> 00:37:03,080
tracked and we understand that my perspective that I wanted you guys to know is what the

504
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:08,140
LPR cameras are, how they work, how they are forced more to plier.

505
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,220
But to be honest with you, we don't have enough throughout the city.

506
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,100
There's a couple of spots that I feel that we could probably add more to add another set

507
00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:15,540
of eyes.

508
00:37:16,060 --> 00:37:18,520
It's to be able to afford to have that minute, yes, ma'am.

509
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,940
No, I want to let you finish.

510
00:37:20,940 --> 00:37:28,600
No, no, no, I was I was a boss all right allegedly the city of Kima has

511
00:37:29,220 --> 00:37:29,800
40

512
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:38,160
LPR cameras. I would like that and my opinion I believe that there might be

513
00:37:39,220 --> 00:37:41,440
coding issues at the

514
00:37:42,370 --> 00:37:43,380
vendor source

515
00:37:44,260 --> 00:37:49,620
Because if we have 40 cameras, which I don't believe is actually the case

516
00:37:49,620 --> 00:37:57,780
That's an issue and I'm talking I'm the account so I'm talking on the money side and it's wonderful that we have

517
00:37:57,780 --> 00:38:07,120
those grant funding but grant funding runs out and look at the long-term costs

518
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,700
of utilizing that as a chief

519
00:38:13,700 --> 00:38:15,980
If Gary says in the toolbox.

520
00:38:17,180 --> 00:38:24,400
So one of the things that's contingent about the current set of grant funded cameras that we have is if the money dries up, they go away.

521
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,780
We have the decision if we want to pay for it on our own, but we're not contractually obligated beyond any of those terms.

522
00:38:30,380 --> 00:38:35,000
That's one thing that I'm not going to sign off on something or recommend something to this council that we're not being that type of predicament.

523
00:38:35,620 --> 00:38:37,580
So we do, we can in that situation.

524
00:38:37,580 --> 00:38:46,180
The bells and whistles are very nice, but at the end of the day, I grew up on a Cinderella situation, right, when it's midnight, what happens?

525
00:38:46,660 --> 00:38:48,060
What worst case scenario, what happens?

526
00:38:48,580 --> 00:38:51,460
So with that mindset, we have to be prepared in case that happens.

527
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,120
Let me inject into that, though, because I think people don't look into the intangibles.

528
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,220
Maybe I'm crazy in what way I think.

529
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,760
But since I've set up here to my knowledge, we've actually reduced officers.

530
00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:06,260
And we have due to technology.

531
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:13,080
So, yes, our budget has stayed almost relatively sane the whole time I've said here, but our

532
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,920
population's increased, the demand's increased, but at the same time we've leaned on technology

533
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,700
to assist us because you had an officer on days and an officer on nights, that's $250,000

534
00:39:22,700 --> 00:39:24,460
of the city by the time you equipped everything.

535
00:39:24,980 --> 00:39:30,280
So, paying for at least on a flock camera needs to be looked at, okay, if we eliminate that,

536
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,680
then we're going to have to probably add an officer to provide the same services that

537
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,900
we're providing today and what is that cost so make sure we're looking at the total cost

538
00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:39,240
not just what's on paper today.

539
00:39:39,940 --> 00:39:44,140
And I'm not looking at in terms of eliminating the system.

540
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:45,520
I want to be clear on it.

541
00:39:45,980 --> 00:39:50,720
What I am saying is the number and place.

542
00:39:51,420 --> 00:39:51,620
Sure.

543
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,380
No, and I appreciate that.

544
00:39:54,380 --> 00:39:58,480
So, there are...

545
00:40:01,490 --> 00:40:03,550
We do have the funding for up to 40.

546
00:40:06,330 --> 00:40:31,010
The locations I can get you a whole print out as far as where they are. But I also want to be cognizant of the fact that these things also serve as deterrents. Which is, to me, I think, the biggest factor. Folks are usually less likely to maybe conduct themselves in a certain way if they notice that there's a camera. They might not take that route.

547
00:40:31,010 --> 00:40:34,850
They might go a different route or do something different if that's the case.

548
00:40:35,590 --> 00:40:41,170
So I wanted to offer us that opportunity or that leniency to be able to have that leeway

549
00:40:41,170 --> 00:40:43,530
that we may be rotating them.

550
00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:45,210
We may be moving from a different location.

551
00:40:45,330 --> 00:40:49,290
If we see one that's not catching something that we might need to move it to a spot that

552
00:40:49,290 --> 00:40:52,210
is more needed, that's the beauty of it.

553
00:40:52,330 --> 00:40:59,550
I will say they are property and they actually are considered state property since they are funded

554
00:40:59,550 --> 00:41:05,070
through state funds. We had one cut down the other day. We had one cut down.

555
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,600
I can't go

556
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,940
into the charges of it, but that might be an actual state effect. And that's something

557
00:41:13,940 --> 00:41:18,580
for us to consider when folks write here doing that. There's other ways of voicing your opinion

558
00:41:18,580 --> 00:41:22,680
or telling us something different than to just go out there and vandalize because that's

559
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:28,700
what that is. That is vandalism. That's no different if somebody would have hit a police

560
00:41:28,700 --> 00:41:34,840
car or something like that nature. It's no different. It is a piece of equipment but it is a set of

561
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:39,880
eyes and it does provide us information that we do keep people safe with regardless of what

562
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:47,640
it is. That's the intent. We go above and beyond on making sure that our officers are pretty much

563
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:55,020
read the right act. You will be charged if you violate those policies within our city. There will

564
00:41:55,020 --> 00:42:00,280
be consequences. It's not a slap in the face, a slap in the hand. It is some very, very

565
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,740
serious consequences that I feel very comfortable in leading in that, and we do plenty of audits

566
00:42:04,740 --> 00:42:09,380
in that to make sure. We had a situation where somebody pulled a certain play a certain

567
00:42:09,380 --> 00:42:13,760
amount of times. I'm not going to get into details. But that person was brought in question

568
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,680
why, and they had the reason why. This is what it was, here's what I saw, here's what

569
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,900
it didn't see, here's a pattern, here's so and so forth. Where I hear you're doing police

570
00:42:20,900 --> 00:42:25,860
work to. Some of the stuff that happens behind the scenes is that some people don't want

571
00:42:25,860 --> 00:42:30,620
to talk about because it is what keeps people up at night, but it's what the work that

572
00:42:30,620 --> 00:42:30,900
is done.

573
00:42:32,940 --> 00:42:37,660
One of our latest arrests that we had was picked up due to a clock camera.

574
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:46,520
It is what it is. There's numerous cases. The pros outweigh the cons in that situation

575
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:47,580
where you want to come to public safety.

576
00:42:48,940 --> 00:42:52,540
Do some people have issues in an agniperious?

577
00:42:52,660 --> 00:42:54,380
Yeah, but they can do that with a shopping cart at Walmart,

578
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:55,540
okay?

579
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,580
It's just the truth and reality we're living.

580
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,660
But whatever this body's will is,

581
00:43:00,260 --> 00:43:01,400
that's what we will go with.

582
00:43:01,820 --> 00:43:02,940
We did go to that meeting.

583
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,380
We did tell the folks in Kima Oaks,

584
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,040
and we let them know that if there was a desire

585
00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:10,540
for those flock cameras to be removed from that neighborhood,

586
00:43:10,980 --> 00:43:12,160
to please let us know in writing,

587
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:13,380
and we would act according.

588
00:43:14,980 --> 00:43:19,920
Cesar, I think he started when you said the first priority that you were given was safety.

589
00:43:20,460 --> 00:43:20,500
Yes.

590
00:43:21,180 --> 00:43:27,600
And then if you look at managing cost, which is part of the budget cycle, it's, what

591
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:34,240
do we do as a body to make sure there's integrity and alignment in supporting public safety?

592
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:39,660
And then you mentioned that we have officers who want to be here, but they are not paid at

593
00:43:39,660 --> 00:43:42,100
the same levels that other towns do.

594
00:43:42,300 --> 00:43:42,640
Yes, right.

595
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:47,420
And so, if you look at the impact of that, I think that's the harder question.

596
00:43:48,460 --> 00:43:53,580
How do we make sure that we continue focused on public safety and I would say officer,

597
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:59,860
safety, community safety, and then how are we making decisions to support that alignment?

598
00:44:01,620 --> 00:44:05,740
One thing I could tell you and during the room and I would speak the same if they were not

599
00:44:05,740 --> 00:44:10,020
in the room, you've got a good leadership team within your beliefs department.

600
00:44:10,860 --> 00:44:14,900
They are not afraid to come tell me when there's an issue, they're not going to hold back.

601
00:44:15,740 --> 00:44:18,580
And that's a relationship that I think we built from day one being together.

602
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,580
When they need something they're going to ask for, they're not going to over ask if there's

603
00:44:24,580 --> 00:44:28,740
a way to incentivize or to keep morale up or anything else that we're going to do with

604
00:44:28,740 --> 00:44:30,140
our department, that's what we're going to do.

605
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:37,380
We don't control the budget, if you will, when it comes to that.

606
00:44:37,380 --> 00:44:43,200
So, as was mentioned, a police officer right now, a police car is at least $100,000.

607
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:44,480
That's just for a car.

608
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:46,200
When you add a-

609
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,780
That's all equipped, correct?

610
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:48,240
Correct.

611
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:48,980
That'd be equipped.

612
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,460
And, you know, certain cars with certain bells and whistles may cost a little bit more, a little bit less.

613
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:53,020
But-

614
00:44:53,020 --> 00:44:53,140
Yeah.

615
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,340
Right about figure about 100k.

616
00:44:55,500 --> 00:44:55,920
Is that about right?

617
00:44:56,180 --> 00:44:57,480
I don't think so.

618
00:44:57,980 --> 00:44:59,960
So, and that number of changes every-

619
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:28,480
Every day. These cars are equipped with a lot of state-of-the-art equipment. Okay? And if you've been to the police academy, the citizens of the police academy, if you haven't, please do so. You'll gain quite a bit of experience and learn more about all the things that these vehicles have. But that priority of having the tools that they need, when we got here, there were ballistic vests that were out of commission.

620
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,660
We retained grant funding for that.

621
00:45:31,220 --> 00:45:34,140
There were tasers that were obsolete.

622
00:45:34,620 --> 00:45:37,280
We were able to receive grant funding for that to get that replaced.

623
00:45:37,580 --> 00:45:42,420
You had not only where you low pay, but you also had equipment that wasn't where it was.

624
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,760
There was police cars that were 15 years old at some point.

625
00:45:46,340 --> 00:45:49,760
We've slowly started to flip those vehicles here and there we're trying to get two per year.

626
00:45:49,860 --> 00:45:52,760
That's why in the budget you have that request.

627
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,680
So you can keep your fleet somewhat new and active.

628
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,000
And we're not afraid to go ask.

629
00:46:00,220 --> 00:46:01,440
We're not afraid to go write grants.

630
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,820
I mean, we started working with grants

631
00:46:03,820 --> 00:46:06,840
and under cheese leadership, they've been very active.

632
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,060
We don't get all of them, but we're

633
00:46:09,060 --> 00:46:10,760
trying to do whatever we can with the much free money

634
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:11,200
as possible.

635
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,700
So that, I think, allows us to do more with less.

636
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,660
We just wrote a cops grant that would allow us for two officers,

637
00:46:20,220 --> 00:46:24,020
that would allow us to have essentially 50% of their salary

638
00:46:24,020 --> 00:46:27,040
paid over those three years.

639
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,260
and that's it. You have to keep him for at least a year at your actual salary and you can decide

640
00:46:30,260 --> 00:46:36,640
what to do after that. But we're doing everything we can to do more with less. The intent with that

641
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,420
is once we reshuffle things is we'll do what we can to make sure that those are self-sufficient

642
00:46:40,420 --> 00:46:48,120
because we've noticed different areas where we could do more. Whether it be CID or criminal

643
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:53,740
investigation side of things or your detective side of things, there's a lot of other crimes that

644
00:46:53,740 --> 00:46:58,540
are not happening in broad daylight that we can't get to as much because it's not just

645
00:46:58,540 --> 00:47:00,000
your office on the street that deal with those.

646
00:47:01,340 --> 00:47:06,540
So I think that the biggest challenge coming up against is it's going to be pay here

647
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:07,720
in the horizon.

648
00:47:08,420 --> 00:47:11,620
I think it's something that we're going to have to address here soon as and later because

649
00:47:11,620 --> 00:47:12,440
it is an arms race.

650
00:47:12,780 --> 00:47:16,940
You've got people, you have offices around us that are hiring for substantial bonuses.

651
00:47:32,260 --> 00:47:36,040
We just want to stay competitive, not the best, and I talked to this guy all the time,

652
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:41,000
these two for sure. We talk about this all the time, that we're just trying to compete.

653
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,020
There's a sergeant fixing to lose, and it's only because of the money.

654
00:47:45,020 --> 00:47:51,500
he loves it here, loves Kema, loves working for them, not me, let's just say them, but I'm

655
00:47:51,500 --> 00:47:56,760
gonna lose a good guy that's very proactive, leading and arrest, leading in DWIs as a

656
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:01,780
sergeant wants to be here, but in the end, what are we getting? I said, if we're blessed,

657
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:06,960
we're getting 3%, right? And he puts the numbers together and that's compared to Harris County

658
00:48:07,740 --> 00:48:13,480
precinct eight where he's applying. I can't give him that money, but can I make as much

659
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,300
is zebra kind of make as much as clearly shores that's what we're asking

660
00:48:17,300 --> 00:48:21,020
can we at least compete with Lamarck you know those kind of places right I

661
00:48:21,020 --> 00:48:24,400
can't compete with Harris County. What's the Delta like when you look at

662
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:30,560
zebra pay to our pay? What's the gap that we're experiencing? You're probably

663
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:36,840
talking about a 10% somewhere near 8 to 10% yeah somewhere in that area and again

664
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,500
and because of the great things that you guys allow them to do here in the

665
00:48:40,140 --> 00:48:44,940
That makes up, you can make up some of that difference, but 3% out of time makes it kind

666
00:48:44,940 --> 00:48:45,380
of hard.

667
00:48:45,980 --> 00:48:49,560
You know, I mean, you saw Harris County, of course we're not thin, and they had a 21%

668
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:50,420
we can't do that, right?

669
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,600
Now they're excited, and they're happy in HPD.

670
00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:53,880
I'm not competing with them.

671
00:48:53,940 --> 00:48:55,020
If you're going to HPD, you're gone.

672
00:48:55,180 --> 00:48:55,760
I understand that.

673
00:48:55,940 --> 00:49:01,140
Never going to, I just want to keep up close to what they're, but what we're very blessed,

674
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,020
you don't see us advertising that we need officers, you know why?

675
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:05,440
Because they want to work here.

676
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:12,040
They're having to give $5,000 bonus to sign on, and I'll say it, it is what it is.

677
00:49:12,260 --> 00:49:13,640
Things must be going right here now.

678
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,260
How do we find a way to keep them?

679
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:17,520
And it's about the dollar.

680
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,340
These younger officers, he could tell them I'm giving you 10% of your retirement.

681
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,040
And knowing it given seven, what does that mean by the hour?

682
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,380
That these younger guys just want to know what they're taking home every two weeks.

683
00:49:27,720 --> 00:49:30,100
Not what they're going to take home in 20 years to make sense.

684
00:49:30,860 --> 00:49:33,540
I want to clarify something on the flock cameras real quick.

685
00:49:33,540 --> 00:49:38,040
We have 40 cameras, but understand that's not at 40 locations.

686
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,280
I think the public needs to know that.

687
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,440
There's only 17 that are stationed at locations.

688
00:49:44,020 --> 00:49:46,700
The other 24, right?

689
00:49:47,340 --> 00:49:51,580
They're actually 24 physical LPR cameras that are stationary.

690
00:49:51,820 --> 00:49:54,000
The rest are on security surveillance trailers.

691
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:54,520
Traitors.

692
00:49:54,780 --> 00:49:59,960
We saw that the other day and said, hey, Leaksie, there's not 40 cameras on every, that's-

693
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:29,980
Not the case here. The other remaining are on traders that we move around for special events. Sixth street, Walmart, it's over the Ulta now. I'm going to Ulta, the city parking lot. Those things come in real handy when we need them. And I can only fight for as much as I can fight for them. But when you have a smaller department and four million visitors visiting this city, those are additional eyes. And I think we look the other day, you might be averaging one search per day that we're using. That's what it averages out to.

694
00:50:29,980 --> 00:50:34,340
30. That's one a day that we're looking, we're not HP, we're not here, we're not

695
00:50:34,340 --> 00:50:38,920
the poor, we're not the poor. We're not looking 30 searches a day. It's one on

696
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:45,340
average a day and he monitors that, he's kind of, he's up around the edges when it

697
00:50:45,340 --> 00:50:48,300
comes to that kind of stuff. He doesn't play that stuff and they know it and we

698
00:50:48,300 --> 00:50:53,780
constantly remind people this won't be tolerated, you know. So I hope you can,

699
00:50:53,820 --> 00:50:56,760
you guys continue to support that because if we can't do it with additional

700
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:01,940
officers to talk about the tasers before I got here, we had to give up two or three officers.

701
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:07,360
Two and a half positions, be correct, because we didn't have the money in the budget,

702
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,540
but they also knew we needed these officers, I mean, these tasers.

703
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,720
So we gave up those two and a half positions to get tasers.

704
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,400
That was three years ago, four years ago.

705
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:17,600
Correct.

706
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,680
We did not replace those officers, I get it.

707
00:51:20,780 --> 00:51:23,600
Okay, but don't take away these other security measures.

708
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:28,580
we have these officers that are standing on every other intersection that are

709
00:51:28,580 --> 00:51:33,420
eyes for us. If something goes down, we can get to it quickly. I promise you no

710
00:51:33,420 --> 00:51:38,180
one's abusing and I'll say it out loud in public, they will be fired. I promise

711
00:51:38,180 --> 00:51:41,160
that man right there in the blue, the dark blue shirt when he went to a meeting

712
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:45,700
with us, they will be fired and they know that. Can't do that. But you know we have

713
00:51:45,700 --> 00:51:49,660
access to so many other things running registrations. That's not even related to

714
00:51:49,660 --> 00:51:53,720
block. Drawers like we get in trouble for that too. It's the same thing if same thing applies.

715
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:59,280
So again I know you guys only have so much to work with. I mean just so everybody's aware too.

716
00:51:59,420 --> 00:52:04,020
I mean KCDC put cameras at the 57-acre park and they're tied into PD as well. Yes sir.

717
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:08,760
So we have a eyes on the 57-acre park one for bandwidth and two just in case something happens

718
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:14,860
in the park and we have it where it can expand the whole 57 acres in the process was designed

719
00:52:14,860 --> 00:52:17,840
so that as the park grows, the camera system can grow with it.

720
00:52:17,900 --> 00:52:18,200
Yes, sir.

721
00:52:18,500 --> 00:52:22,160
So, I mean, we're going to call the ESB and everything else

722
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,980
to serve us a 57-acre park, because if somebody has a heart attack

723
00:52:24,980 --> 00:52:27,000
and they'll that park, you've got to get them out of there.

724
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,160
You're going to have to have the apparatus and equipment.

725
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:29,860
Yes, sir.

726
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:30,520
As a city.

727
00:52:30,740 --> 00:52:32,660
Yep. The minute someone calls in from the park,

728
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,720
dispatch starts a dispatch and shot them out.

729
00:52:34,780 --> 00:52:37,060
It gets into the system and starts monitoring and tell them,

730
00:52:37,060 --> 00:52:38,420
hey, God in the red shirt, did whatever.

731
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,180
Maybe he's on a dirt bike. Whatever the call is,

732
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:41,340
he just went into the wood area.

733
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:42,940
Those are eyes for us.

734
00:52:42,940 --> 00:52:46,500
because we, you're not going to, yes, most of y'all don't

735
00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:48,500
I might just allow to do, I don't know if y'all know how many

736
00:52:48,500 --> 00:52:52,720
all should we have on the street sometimes y'all. And trust me,

737
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:57,020
we need to have those additional forces out there for us to

738
00:52:57,020 --> 00:53:01,120
assist us. Chief, do you mind if I interject for a second? Also,

739
00:53:01,180 --> 00:53:03,640
one thing I want to address, and this was addressed at the

740
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,500
meeting we had with the chemo ox HOA. It was put out online

741
00:53:07,500 --> 00:53:11,140
that the cameras in 57 acre park are halfway should

742
00:53:11,140 --> 00:53:17,620
recognition near flock cameras. They are not that was established and clarified October of 2025 before they went in

743
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,900
So I just want to know facial recognition none whatsoever on any of our cameras here in the city

744
00:53:22,900 --> 00:53:28,680
I mean pure hate. They're gonna look and see is it me leaving it to in the morning whatever is and that's not what the system is dying

745
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,580
Your vehicle though, but it's not gonna see who was in the vehicle

746
00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:34,020
You know, so that that's not true

747
00:53:34,020 --> 00:53:39,300
But I get it. There's other things going on throughout the county and the state and the country now

748
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,920
All I can tell you is just do as much as I can to reassure you it's not happening in

749
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:44,560
chemotexas.

750
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:45,640
That I can tell you.

751
00:53:45,820 --> 00:53:46,700
Thank you so much.

752
00:53:46,820 --> 00:53:47,320
Yes, ma'am.

753
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,620
That's how you get a new car in the fleet out there.

754
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:54,820
So that is, I'll talk about that real quick, that my wife and I bought that vehicle 20 years

755
00:53:54,820 --> 00:53:59,340
ago, 25 years ago when I was passing the police officer, it was my dream to make it a classic

756
00:53:59,340 --> 00:53:59,820
vehicle.

757
00:54:00,660 --> 00:54:01,560
It never happened.

758
00:54:01,700 --> 00:54:03,060
I become the chief in free port.

759
00:54:03,460 --> 00:54:07,260
We donated free ports and people put some money into it while it was there.

760
00:54:08,300 --> 00:54:11,520
They decided after I left not to continue deploying it.

761
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,320
It went backwards, started rusting out and all this and that.

762
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,980
Anybody listening, all the wonderful people that donated money as much as we could, we

763
00:54:18,980 --> 00:54:23,480
raised about $7,000 and we were able to get it, not the best paying job, but we got some of

764
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,220
the rust spots fixed, the rims had rusted, new rims on it, the interior had already been

765
00:54:27,220 --> 00:54:27,480
done.

766
00:54:28,220 --> 00:54:30,160
You're going to put the graphics on it, but probably later today.

767
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:34,600
And now I've got a gentleman on Anders, probably down the road from you that does classic vehicles.

768
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:43,200
and he's going to give us a deal. Some of that we can find in the budget very light, but now it has a motor in it, it actually runs, but the fuel pumps, but it's going to be beautiful.

769
00:54:43,740 --> 00:54:51,440
It just, that kind of vehicle tells you what Kema is about. When we see that one at the boardwalk that everybody loves, now we'll still have that one there.

770
00:54:51,860 --> 00:54:56,740
Now we're going to have one that actually be in some parades around. So we'll move it around the city and show it also.

771
00:54:56,740 --> 00:54:58,220
So, yep, we're excited for that.

772
00:54:58,580 --> 00:54:59,840
Next project, we got going.

773
00:55:00,050 --> 00:55:06,330
So I'd like to use that to transition as Juan P.D.'s here to talk about the crime rate.

774
00:55:08,890 --> 00:55:30,010
Historically, and this is something we don't run from or hide from. Historically, Kima has had one of the highest crime rates in the state. And I will don't notice that and don't realize that. So when you see that come out, please don't be alarmed. That is a normal thing. It is not uncommon for us to be

775
00:55:30,010 --> 00:55:32,610
in the top 10 of crime rates for the state of Texas.

776
00:55:33,510 --> 00:55:34,550
But why is that?

777
00:55:34,990 --> 00:55:36,210
It's tied to our population.

778
00:55:37,130 --> 00:55:39,610
You have one or two incidents happen, and all of a sudden,

779
00:55:39,850 --> 00:55:42,110
it just goes out of control.

780
00:55:43,770 --> 00:55:45,710
Obviously, violent crime versus property crime

781
00:55:45,710 --> 00:55:46,830
are two different types of crimes,

782
00:55:46,830 --> 00:55:50,410
but understand that those things influence the crime rate.

783
00:55:51,230 --> 00:55:53,430
It is not a reflection on whether we're safe or not.

784
00:55:54,210 --> 00:55:56,370
One or two incidents throw that thing out of haywire.

785
00:55:57,290 --> 00:55:58,990
We're working on doing everything we can

786
00:55:58,990 --> 00:56:00,850
and to drop that as much as possible.

787
00:56:01,630 --> 00:56:03,710
Now, there has been a problem

788
00:56:03,710 --> 00:56:05,310
and they could tell you better than I can

789
00:56:05,910 --> 00:56:08,410
on what's happened with the league city consortium.

790
00:56:08,530 --> 00:56:09,810
You're gonna hear that Motorola,

791
00:56:10,090 --> 00:56:12,290
league city consortium, the data collection, what have you.

792
00:56:13,070 --> 00:56:14,370
That's who controls the stats

793
00:56:14,370 --> 00:56:16,150
for most of the cities in this general area.

794
00:56:16,970 --> 00:56:18,950
There's been some challenges

795
00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:20,390
is the best way I can describe it.

796
00:56:20,970 --> 00:56:22,670
In that, you guys wanna touch on that

797
00:56:22,670 --> 00:56:25,690
because we have not been able to get apples

798
00:56:25,690 --> 00:56:27,370
to apples comparison of crime rates

799
00:56:27,370 --> 00:56:28,330
and it's not just us,

800
00:56:28,330 --> 00:56:30,130
So it's a lot of us in the city that are infected.

801
00:56:30,810 --> 00:56:40,610
Okay, as you all know, March of this year we actually transitioned from OSSI which is an old legacy system to a new system for Motorola.

802
00:56:41,790 --> 00:56:46,230
With that current change and this is happening region wide, everybody's having issues with

803
00:56:47,310 --> 00:56:53,950
certain categories and stats that they're capturing as well as kind of fleshing the system out because it is a brand new system.

804
00:56:53,950 --> 00:56:56,790
So, they're still working the bug out of it.

805
00:56:56,870 --> 00:57:00,670
It may take maybe two years before it actually gets to where it needs to be.

806
00:57:01,230 --> 00:57:05,810
But weekly, we have meetings, we're project managers as well as for League City.

807
00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:09,170
And we're consistently working on smoothly nose out.

808
00:57:09,530 --> 00:57:12,610
We actually just had a meeting with them about four months ago, all the agencies in the county.

809
00:57:13,150 --> 00:57:17,850
And they all expressed, we're not the only ones they all expressed their concerns about the consortium.

810
00:57:17,990 --> 00:57:22,450
But just to let me touch on that, I still feel very proud that we are one of the safest cities in

811
00:57:22,450 --> 00:57:29,150
I was in County when I say that if you have one robbery in the town of our size and you have had no robberies for the last two years

812
00:57:29,570 --> 00:57:34,070
It's kind of cool up for the one. We're not having ten robberies ten Ag assaults

813
00:57:34,070 --> 00:57:37,650
I'm very proud of and you also have a proactive police department now

814
00:57:37,650 --> 00:57:42,290
So they're generating their own crime stats because they're out there looking for people to throw in jail

815
00:57:42,290 --> 00:57:45,150
You know, they got a tip the other day on someone doing something wrong

816
00:57:45,150 --> 00:57:49,950
They found the guy and got with the jail. We got a call to one work the other day that someone was possibly

817
00:57:50,670 --> 00:57:55,370
using the phone to get under people's skirts and my sergeant went over there

818
00:57:55,370 --> 00:57:59,510
just to investigate and found out that the guy was still there and had just done

819
00:57:59,510 --> 00:58:04,770
it 30 minutes and he put him in jail. So those are stats going up, I'll take

820
00:58:04,770 --> 00:58:09,170
those stats all day long, taking a perv off the street for doing what he did, we

821
00:58:09,170 --> 00:58:13,070
have a great police department guy. I mean I say that proudly, I'm good because of

822
00:58:13,070 --> 00:58:16,170
my team. They're the ones that make me look good, I promise you. They're out

823
00:58:16,170 --> 00:58:21,970
they're working every moment, slowing people down on this bypass, I can play in yesterday

824
00:58:21,970 --> 00:58:26,630
because I'm off to stop somebody on 5.18. That's what the citizens expect. They want

825
00:58:26,630 --> 00:58:30,850
you to slow people down on 5.18. We're speeding. 15 miles over the speed limit is too fast.

826
00:58:31,370 --> 00:58:35,150
You know, so anyway, I don't want to keep you too long, but thank y'all for your continued

827
00:58:35,150 --> 00:58:35,490
career.

828
00:58:35,950 --> 00:58:36,070
Huh?

829
00:58:36,310 --> 00:58:36,770
That was a cricket.

830
00:58:37,910 --> 00:58:38,630
What's cricket?

831
00:58:40,070 --> 00:58:46,030
Oh, man. It was a joke. They asked me to do a taste thing. I didn't know. They gave me

832
00:58:46,030 --> 00:58:52,050
two things to eat, naidem, and the last thing, I thought it was a cockroach and I said

833
00:58:52,050 --> 00:58:56,230
he's not a cockroach, he said it's a cricket, I never did that, he made, thanks for bringing

834
00:58:56,230 --> 00:58:59,310
that up in an open form, I appreciate that, I can always count you in an open hand.

835
00:58:59,790 --> 00:59:01,870
Now thank you all so much for what you all do for us, I really appreciate it.

836
00:59:01,910 --> 00:59:05,630
Are there any questions for PD directly while they're here and available for a move on to

837
00:59:05,630 --> 00:59:06,230
the next department?

838
00:59:08,110 --> 00:59:09,130
Thank you for what you all do.

839
00:59:09,710 --> 00:59:10,310
Thank you, sir.

840
00:59:10,310 --> 00:59:18,830
general direction is also like they're they're greeting kids I do a lot with with

841
00:59:18,830 --> 00:59:24,490
the kids keep on the elderly and the positive side I mean the warm fuzzy

842
00:59:24,490 --> 00:59:28,410
stuff too I mean they're they're keeping peace they're protecting but they're

843
00:59:28,410 --> 00:59:34,850
also doing me we're headed over to coffee with coffee with coffee over at Cuban

844
00:59:34,850 --> 00:59:38,950
cafe I got to be there in 10 minutes it's what we're doing here again they all all

845
00:59:38,950 --> 00:59:42,690
my officers have bought into this deal, you know, they go crime fight, then we go put

846
00:59:42,690 --> 00:59:46,250
on a costume for the kids. We're going to go help the kids fold the flag. They're

847
00:59:46,250 --> 00:59:49,470
going to sussan on the way down there to teach them how to fold the flag so they can

848
00:59:49,470 --> 00:59:52,310
raise it at the front of the school. That's what we do. That lady gives me a

849
00:59:52,310 --> 00:59:57,790
counter to the cheerleaders and collect shorts. Yeah, but I'm gonna say it's still

850
00:59:57,790 --> 00:59:59,970
keep a borderline to be outside part of maybe the kitchens in

851
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:28,720
We're getting views of 28 million views on one of our post, 15 million views on one of our 8 million views in the little town of Kima. So we're doing something right, and now we're going to try to see we're working on it to see we can monetize, maybe make a little extra money for some of these community projects.

852
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:33,120
that way we can lessen on our budget, you know, if we can use some of this money for other things,

853
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,880
maybe the police car, things like that, the classic car.

854
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,720
But we're trying, we're always open to hear anything.

855
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:44,300
We went with the seniors, Councilman One, I asked them to give the prize back and he refused, he kept it.

856
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,380
Now we had a good time, so we did a bingo with them, and we had a great time with them.

857
01:00:48,380 --> 01:00:52,040
So we're going to continue doing what we're doing, but again, we can't do it without your support.

858
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:53,120
So thank you all.

859
01:00:54,060 --> 01:01:03,880
I will just ask one thing, well I mean if whoever's gonna stay, if there's ever a conversation

860
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,680
that needs to be had about anything having to do with PD or the approach or anything else,

861
01:01:08,540 --> 01:01:13,720
it's not just a community, regular standard community policing, it's not a reactive, it's

862
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:18,380
not a proactive, we call this a morph of kind of all those and that's the approach that

863
01:01:18,380 --> 01:01:21,420
this leadership has decided to take and that's one that we've supported.

864
01:01:21,860 --> 01:01:26,900
So I think that's the consensus we have if that's changed and we need to know.

865
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:29,620
Okay, any discussion on that?

866
01:01:31,020 --> 01:01:31,880
Okay, great.

867
01:01:32,140 --> 01:01:32,540
Thank you guys.

868
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:33,000
Appreciate it.

869
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:33,260
Careful.

870
01:01:33,580 --> 01:01:33,800
See you.

871
01:01:34,380 --> 01:01:35,440
Do we need a break or are we good?

872
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:37,440
We're good?

873
01:01:38,020 --> 01:01:38,240
Okay.

874
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:38,600
All right.

875
01:01:39,140 --> 01:01:41,960
Quickly, let's go to Devin's here.

876
01:01:42,020 --> 01:01:43,180
We can go ahead and talk about communications.

877
01:01:44,980 --> 01:01:50,480
This is an area that I think there's a lot of potential for Kema between communications

878
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:57,900
and tourism. We are driven by tourism. We are driven by sales tax, whether in the form

879
01:01:57,900 --> 01:02:04,140
of regular local tourism or whether it's visitors that are coming. Either which way boats

880
01:02:04,140 --> 01:02:09,220
are coming to Kima, folks enjoy coming to Kima. We've got the data to prove it. We have

881
01:02:09,220 --> 01:02:16,540
a lot of people that are coming to come visit and eat and drink and partake in Kima. However,

882
01:02:16,540 --> 01:02:20,500
However, the numbers are still down when it comes to that.

883
01:02:21,740 --> 01:02:25,980
Whether it's inflation, pricing pieces, whatever, have kept the numbers somewhat steady.

884
01:02:26,860 --> 01:02:31,280
But in some facets, anywhere between 5% and 7% is where we've seen there would be some

885
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:32,460
type of downfall.

886
01:02:33,740 --> 01:02:37,180
We've looked at different marketing tactics to try to get that back up.

887
01:02:37,740 --> 01:02:44,920
But as a whole, KEMA has never been big on marketing, has never been big on that approach.

888
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,880
That's historically, I can tell you, a lot of folks know chemo because they've been here.

889
01:02:51,620 --> 01:02:53,080
But I folks have been to Disney World.

890
01:02:53,220 --> 01:02:55,900
If you don't see commercials about Disney World, you're not going to think about going back.

891
01:02:57,500 --> 01:03:03,380
So I'd like to know the approach and the thought process of how we feel about marketing and communications in general.

892
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,160
We've tried segments of keeping chemo to keep the locals informed.

893
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,540
But we're also doing different things like the videos that we've done to try to breed tourism.

894
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:14,980
What are our thoughts on that?

895
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,020
Do you like the direction that we're trying to ship to to try to bring more folks in?

896
01:03:20,620 --> 01:03:23,700
Obviously, that's going to come with dollars behind it or some time of campaigns behind

897
01:03:23,700 --> 01:03:23,920
it.

898
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:25,660
But what's the general consensus?

899
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:38,560
I think over the years, I would agree with you that the general consensus of this board

900
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:45,680
was not to pour a lot of money into marketing and advertising, although they have.

901
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:54,040
over the years. But we've tried a lot of different things. And again, I think we're unique in

902
01:03:54,040 --> 01:04:02,440
that a lot of times the overall feeling up here is, well, we're already getting a fairly big bank

903
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:08,940
for nobugs because the boardwalk mentions Kima every time they advertise anything, typically,

904
01:04:08,940 --> 01:04:16,160
it's not like we're not known out there and they're still, their advertising comes with

905
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:25,000
just that alliance regardless. And we used to have a CVB or we had a tourism and so we've

906
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:33,780
tried several different things. The last time we went with a marketing agency, I think the purpose

907
01:04:33,780 --> 01:04:41,000
this, they fulfilled it was to create some branding and graphics for KCDC and the city

908
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:45,840
art kind of already had that established and to separate those two.

909
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:54,940
One is a come visit and have funny chema, tourism type side, and one is more the city purpose

910
01:04:54,940 --> 01:04:59,520
and separate those two out and brand them differently.

911
01:05:00,340 --> 01:05:09,380
Which we did, it just, it was a large ticket item, and at that time, I think we had to make decisions

912
01:05:09,380 --> 01:05:16,940
on where the money and the budget went then. Do you still remain active with the chamber

913
01:05:16,940 --> 01:05:22,200
and the this and the that and they have and things like that, or do you, because there's only

914
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:28,900
X amount of dollars to go around there. And then when Pat came on board she kind of changed the focus. We

915
01:05:30,140 --> 01:05:39,420
rolled off of MDR and she put that money that MDR was using for certain things

916
01:05:40,300 --> 01:05:48,340
to use in different places around the state in magazines and they probably speak to where she

917
01:05:48,940 --> 01:05:56,120
decided to put a lot of that better than I can specifically. So we've tried a lot

918
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,240
of things over the years that I've been in here.

919
01:06:01,260 --> 01:06:03,340
I guess I'll jump in on this one.

920
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:12,540
Yeah, you would have a lot of insight on this. Marketing. I think all of that is an

921
01:06:12,540 --> 01:06:16,280
an accurate statement from both the mayor and conceder.

922
01:06:17,140 --> 01:06:26,170
One thing I'll kind of recommend to this body is understanding that when we focus on marketing dollars,

923
01:06:27,210 --> 01:06:43,870
the ROI of marketing isn't the same, isn't measured the same as the ROI of a capital expenditure that you know you're going to write off in 10, 12, 15 years over the case maybe, or a new building or a new park.

924
01:06:43,870 --> 01:06:54,530
that stuff, you know, marketing is like trying to turn an aircraft area and it's a long

925
01:06:54,530 --> 01:07:01,250
and slow process, it's expensive up front, you may not get people in town historically

926
01:07:01,250 --> 01:07:07,010
and previous council members that I've spoken to, when they see marketing dollars spent

927
01:07:07,010 --> 01:07:12,270
and then they see tourism is flat, they go see you wasted money, like well, it's not exactly

928
01:07:12,270 --> 01:07:18,170
how it works, you know, it takes two or three cycles to really get somebody to plan a

929
01:07:18,170 --> 01:07:23,810
trip here, you know, and get the messaging out there and repeat it in a valuable way

930
01:07:23,810 --> 01:07:32,130
that stays top of mind that, you know, and then the other piece of that, you know, is where

931
01:07:32,130 --> 01:07:39,790
when people see the marketing or the billboard or the social media post or the video, they're

932
01:07:39,790 --> 01:07:45,310
to go to social media and figure out what's came all about, you know, and I think this town, you

933
01:07:45,310 --> 01:07:53,550
know, from a business standpoint in that some businesses are better than others at marketing

934
01:07:53,550 --> 01:07:58,550
their own business. Some people, some business owners are all about it. Some business owners think

935
01:07:58,550 --> 01:08:03,690
the city should do all of it. There's some business owners that wish the city would just get out of

936
01:08:03,690 --> 01:08:07,650
the way, you know, and then there's some, there's plenty of people in the middle that would just take

937
01:08:07,650 --> 01:08:13,070
whatever help we can give them, you know, but if you search social media posts on

938
01:08:13,070 --> 01:08:17,770
KEMA, you know, you're going to find post-bash in the city. You're going to find

939
01:08:17,770 --> 01:08:22,850
post-bash in the boardwalk. You know, that's just part of it. And so people see

940
01:08:22,850 --> 01:08:25,850
and they go, all the marketing didn't work. Well, you got to give it more than one

941
01:08:25,850 --> 01:08:29,650
marketing cycle. That's going to take more than one budget cycle. And I feel like

942
01:08:29,650 --> 01:08:37,410
we've struggled as a city. I've been money in marketing or not and it goes with

943
01:08:37,410 --> 01:08:43,030
the turnover on council. And it's just part of it. It's a challenge, it's a battle, it is what it is.

944
01:08:44,470 --> 01:08:52,190
You know, my main concern is marketing is a big task, a big ask for one person.

945
01:08:53,750 --> 01:09:00,270
My concern is, are you, does staff have the bandwidth to execute the marketing plan?

946
01:09:02,730 --> 01:09:06,070
And not only executed, but also the bandwidth to do it long enough. Are we going to,

947
01:09:06,070 --> 01:09:09,870
But, you know, this body needs to be willing to commit and probably commit for a budget

948
01:09:09,870 --> 01:09:15,350
or two or three to really make that make sense, because if we're just going to do it for

949
01:09:15,350 --> 01:09:17,990
one year and go, ah, that didn't work, well, then it's never going to work, and we might

950
01:09:17,990 --> 01:09:22,690
as well just abandon it and put the dollars elsewhere and to work for the taxpayers.

951
01:09:23,050 --> 01:09:24,750
So that's just saying going to cut it.

952
01:09:25,050 --> 01:09:26,850
And I think that's exactly what has happened.

953
01:09:27,410 --> 01:09:31,690
It was just a nature of reaction that went into gratification, and when it didn't work

954
01:09:31,690 --> 01:09:35,470
in one cycle, it was like, oh, well, let's not do that.

955
01:09:36,010 --> 01:09:39,070
or that money wasn't a well-savent.

956
01:09:41,510 --> 01:09:42,030
So...

957
01:09:42,030 --> 01:09:47,370
What I would add to what Robin and Dustin are talking about from a marketing is...

958
01:09:47,370 --> 01:09:50,250
And I think the strategic plan will help with this.

959
01:09:50,510 --> 01:09:50,530
Yes.

960
01:09:50,650 --> 01:09:55,870
But it's getting clarity on what category do you want to brand Kena N?

961
01:09:56,910 --> 01:09:59,870
And so there's the boardwalk, but then you're also talking...

962
01:10:02,510 --> 01:10:09,990
And that's where the consistency of the brand and the category, and then if you're using

963
01:10:09,990 --> 01:10:17,350
the different mediums, so whether it's TikTok and Instagram and Facebook and, you know, every

964
01:10:17,350 --> 01:10:23,950
different thing that you're using, those all require different formats, and they require

965
01:10:23,950 --> 01:10:32,270
different digital pieces that you've got to decide in my opinion you're going

966
01:10:32,270 --> 01:10:38,810
to either go all in and I think it's a three-year commitment because it takes

967
01:10:38,810 --> 01:10:44,530
at least a year to get momentum and recognition and then have that

968
01:10:44,530 --> 01:10:50,270
category where you start to have category ownership that when people search

969
01:10:50,790 --> 01:10:54,870
you're coming up and that's what they're recognizing.

970
01:10:56,570 --> 01:11:01,890
Well, and one of the things is too is as a city we may not be large enough to do it on our own.

971
01:11:02,830 --> 01:11:07,010
So I'm going to segue to my next question if that's okay because it's tied to this.

972
01:11:07,650 --> 01:11:13,210
I understand the CVB did not work here before, it did not work in the way that it was.

973
01:11:13,590 --> 01:11:17,150
My question is is regionally what would it take for

974
01:11:17,150 --> 01:11:21,630
to participate in some type of regional destination marketing effort.

975
01:11:22,150 --> 01:11:25,310
You need to get every city around the lake to commit and stick to their commitment.

976
01:11:26,030 --> 01:11:29,690
And start with Webster because they're sitting on a boatload of cash to do it and they refuse.

977
01:11:32,490 --> 01:11:34,870
Is there an appetite from Kima to play a role in that?

978
01:11:36,170 --> 01:11:42,770
I won't speak for the whole board, but I would recommend it as someone who works in the tours of and marketing space.

979
01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:46,630
It's a way to multiply dollars.

980
01:11:46,630 --> 01:11:51,630
We're never going to have enough money in a single budget cycle to do everything we want to do from a marketing standpoint and get everything else done

981
01:11:51,630 --> 01:11:57,350
And honestly marketing shouldn't be the number one priority of this body when it comes to sure everything else to run in the city

982
01:11:58,130 --> 01:12:01,330
Or any city in my personal opinion, you know, but

983
01:12:01,810 --> 01:12:04,430
League City, you know has a visitor's

984
01:12:05,690 --> 01:12:14,010
You know see their own little in-house version of that Webster, you know, they all have EDCs. They all have some version of the tourism marketing budget

985
01:12:16,130 --> 01:12:23,050
Why the cities around the lake historically struggle to come together and pull their dollars?

986
01:12:23,910 --> 01:12:30,410
You know, the order of magnitude that $3 million would go to is way more than what a million will go to.

987
01:12:30,490 --> 01:12:31,710
People think a million dollars is a lot of money.

988
01:12:32,210 --> 01:12:35,450
In marketing, I can throw a million dollars into the wind in ten minutes.

989
01:12:35,450 --> 01:12:36,050
You give it to me.

990
01:12:36,750 --> 01:12:38,470
You know, and you can see that money again.

991
01:12:38,810 --> 01:12:39,350
It's just going to be gone.

992
01:12:39,350 --> 01:12:46,490
So, you know, their towns around the lake that have the resources to do it, we just need

993
01:12:46,490 --> 01:12:50,590
to figure out what levers to pull to get them to collaborate and ship in and everybody

994
01:12:50,590 --> 01:12:51,530
stick to those commitments.

995
01:12:52,110 --> 01:12:55,570
And a lot of it has to do with the turnover of their leadership and council and staff and

996
01:12:55,570 --> 01:13:01,250
all that, you know, because some years you'll get sea brick on board and want to do it and

997
01:13:01,250 --> 01:13:04,530
next year they're like, nope, never mind, not a priority and they're gone.

998
01:13:05,110 --> 01:13:09,350
and you'd wait a couple of cycles and then maybe Nassau Bay comes back, maybe

999
01:13:09,350 --> 01:13:13,950
League City comes back, you know, I know the chambers trying to get a CVB kind

1000
01:13:13,950 --> 01:13:20,130
of, they're, they've explored what that looks like to bring back or at least not

1001
01:13:20,130 --> 01:13:25,610
necessarily prop up on their own but figure out how to solve that and I think you

1002
01:13:25,610 --> 01:13:30,810
know that that's going to be the key to really driving a real value to the

1003
01:13:30,810 --> 01:13:36,430
taxpayer is every city needs on the lake that wants to drive tourism, needs to drive tourism,

1004
01:13:36,670 --> 01:13:40,250
they need to commit to it. And if they're not willing to commit to it, you know, we'll never have

1005
01:13:40,250 --> 01:13:44,890
enough in the budget to do what we need to do here. It just isn't going to happen. Yes, sir.

1006
01:13:46,250 --> 01:13:52,890
And I agree with you on what you're saying. One thing we would probably need a message is we need

1007
01:13:52,890 --> 01:13:59,330
the right message to put it up. Okay, I'm going to say this. I've got my own website.

1008
01:14:00,810 --> 01:14:04,850
Through AI I came up with voicing the Gulf Coast spirit.

1009
01:14:05,370 --> 01:14:11,230
Why couldn't we say Kima voicing the Gulf Coast spirit and then start building from there?

1010
01:14:12,830 --> 01:14:13,830
I'm going to say make sense.

1011
01:14:14,210 --> 01:14:14,370
Sure.

1012
01:14:14,650 --> 01:14:15,170
No, I ain't.

1013
01:14:15,170 --> 01:14:17,970
Where my college degree was in filming.

1014
01:14:18,910 --> 01:14:22,610
And so I understand the idea of to spend the presentation.

1015
01:14:23,110 --> 01:14:26,310
And if we just start talking about the Gulf Coast spirit

1016
01:14:41,890 --> 01:14:46,010
And I think that's the city's moniker has been gateway to the bay.

1017
01:14:47,210 --> 01:14:49,810
I think that's been the city's moniker kind of for a while.

1018
01:14:51,330 --> 01:14:57,630
I just, every council that changed is going back to what was said is I have to

1019
01:14:57,630 --> 01:14:59,970
gauge the appetite as to what we're going to do and then there's

1020
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:28,620
There's that push and pull. I know Devon wants to make a comment, but before we get to Devon, is there anybody else's pulse on how you feel about that so we can drive this direction? Because for a city like us that depends on sales tax, every additional bump is helpful, right? Whether it's through special events, whether it's through marketing campaigns, whether it's through certain things, those things are important. So I'd like to kind of get the pulse on, it sounds to me like Dustin would be in support of it, sounds to me like Mr. Ward, you'd be in support of it.

1021
01:15:28,620 --> 01:15:32,500
Is everybody kind of in support, am I getting kind of, no?

1022
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:34,120
Darren says no.

1023
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,320
Okay, so what's the...

1024
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,620
In concept, I'm definitely supportive and agree with

1025
01:15:40,620 --> 01:15:45,060
Dustin 100%, but I sat on that board for several years.

1026
01:15:45,740 --> 01:15:49,740
It was difficult because of the cycles and because the politics

1027
01:15:50,140 --> 01:15:53,320
all around the lake to get everybody on board

1028
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:57,020
and get a large enough pile of money to make an impact.

1029
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:01,360
It was like fighting and up hill battle constantly.

1030
01:16:02,180 --> 01:16:06,760
So if I'm going to be visibly responsible to the city now,

1031
01:16:06,980 --> 01:16:11,660
it's probably not such a great idea unless there's an entity

1032
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,480
that you knew the money was going to go there.

1033
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,360
In other words, it's okay.

1034
01:16:18,620 --> 01:16:24,680
For example, I see the boardwalk tearing down two restaurants,

1035
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:31,580
We're investing in chemons and putting in a water park of sorts and it's in new rides.

1036
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:41,080
I see that as a bigger blessing for us as a city overall than us trying to chase a

1037
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:47,260
CVV that was dysfunctional at many times, not because the people on the board were not

1038
01:16:47,260 --> 01:16:53,960
good or capable or whatever, but because the cities were so up and down and volatile about

1039
01:16:53,960 --> 01:17:00,120
But who could make that decision to put money in every year and the budget was so all over

1040
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:00,440
the road.

1041
01:17:00,700 --> 01:17:04,960
You'd have a budget and you'd start to try to do things and then the budget would be

1042
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:06,860
gone a few months or a year.

1043
01:17:07,380 --> 01:17:16,840
And it was a very, very tough organization to run and pull off, pulling those cities as

1044
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:18,160
he says around the lake.

1045
01:17:18,420 --> 01:17:20,640
They didn't all buy into it all the time.

1046
01:17:21,820 --> 01:17:24,840
If I could get some input from a couple of riders and a council on the board.

1047
01:17:25,740 --> 01:17:29,800
Well I can say you've sent up here for five years and all that was pre-daring because

1048
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,980
I don't remember any of those dates because I got here after COVID and everything shut down.

1049
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:37,920
But I have looked at this body and I'm the one that recommended SafeBeard, I'm the one

1050
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:43,300
that recommended ITB third-party and I see the inefficiencies because I own my own business

1051
01:17:43,300 --> 01:17:45,880
and I try to be as efficient as possible because it comes out of my pocket.

1052
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:52,420
it. And that's why we have gone out for a VA at the KCDC and I'll tell you my

1053
01:17:52,420 --> 01:17:56,240
reasoning behind that is I have seen this board right here change and the

1054
01:17:56,240 --> 01:18:00,320
thought process of this board change which is fine because the people vote and

1055
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,540
different people come up here with different ideas and I think it's a great

1056
01:18:02,540 --> 01:18:06,440
for local communities. I don't have a problem with that at all. At the same time I've

1057
01:18:06,440 --> 01:18:11,600
seen KCDC have that same turnover and you just don't have any consistency and as

1058
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:16,520
As the president of KCDC, I went out and created a team of food and fun and played with it

1059
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:18,540
for like a month on the social media platform.

1060
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:22,640
And I think with Eculon, I ended up with 2.6 million views and a couple other ones

1061
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,040
I ended up with over a million views.

1062
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:26,020
So it's out there.

1063
01:18:26,300 --> 01:18:27,080
I know it's out there.

1064
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,520
It's just a matter of who we don't have the staff to do it.

1065
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:30,980
I know that.

1066
01:18:31,500 --> 01:18:35,760
So, how could we, and that's when we started having conversations about virtual assistance

1067
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:39,660
because a lot of us are using them in our personal businesses because they do make you

1068
01:18:39,660 --> 01:18:43,920
way more effective and I got several friends that wake up to a calendar every day on what

1069
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,740
they're supposed to do at 8 o'clock and what they're supposed to do at 9.30 and when

1070
01:18:46,740 --> 01:18:49,420
they're going to eat lunch, I'm like, that's just what the virtual assistant does for

1071
01:18:49,420 --> 01:18:49,580
them.

1072
01:18:50,020 --> 01:18:56,000
And I think that's the consistency piece that KCDC and the city needs because names and faces

1073
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:59,120
change on both bodies so quickly, there's no consistency.

1074
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:04,540
If we could get some consistency and stay with it and I've done research on the state level,

1075
01:19:04,540 --> 01:19:11,160
We can't individually look at businesses on a personal basis, but me and Devon were talking about yesterday

1076
01:19:11,620 --> 01:19:14,080
We can put them in groups and then spotlight a business

1077
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:21,320
So we can do like all the breakfasts the place of patrons of tormento or a coffee and then once a day or once a week we do

1078
01:19:23,380 --> 01:19:27,700
Spotlight and then we would be within the guidelines and the VA wouldn't give us in trouble because we were

1079
01:19:27,700 --> 01:19:30,420
We're out of time, kind of like they do the Crawford Box.

1080
01:19:31,340 --> 01:19:32,960
Boardwalk one actually puts me into that.

1081
01:19:33,100 --> 01:19:33,640
Virtual assistant.

1082
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:34,640
Virtual assistant.

1083
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:34,960
Virtual.

1084
01:19:35,060 --> 01:19:38,380
He's got all of his institutions are set up up there.

1085
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:42,280
I mean, it's same concept, just do it where, but we

1086
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:43,800
ought to have that consistency at one point.

1087
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,560
We're going to have to say consistent for advertising to be

1088
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:50,060
effective because we just keep throwing money away because

1089
01:19:50,060 --> 01:19:52,400
we're never consistent with the same idea or same concept

1090
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,180
long enough, like they've said, to be effective.

1091
01:19:55,380 --> 01:19:56,780
Because I used to own card dealerships.

1092
01:19:57,220 --> 01:19:59,820
He's just been a half million dollars a year at one store.

1093
01:20:00,750 --> 01:20:30,570
But we were consistent. I mean, it was always consistent and you didn't see results like they said the first year. Usually took 18 months to 24 months when you changed your true campaign to really see the effects of it. So, I mean, these bodies changed you fast. I mean, the initiatives changed. There's a road that needs to be done. So there's $2 million a song to a road and we don't want to have a lot of, you know, marketing money. So, I mean, I think you see that run alike too. They don't see the benefits of it and that new body doesn't see the benefits of it, so they trash it. And then you have to wait for the next cycle and the next group says, yeah, we'll jump back on board.

1094
01:20:30,570 --> 01:20:36,590
I think we're never going to get there collectively as a group because there's just too many hands of the basket.

1095
01:20:37,010 --> 01:20:41,530
One way and Devon, you can certainly lean into this.

1096
01:20:41,730 --> 01:20:45,150
But if you thought of the marketing strategy and the consistency

1097
01:20:45,150 --> 01:20:51,070
and if getting people around the lake is the challenge, then what part of that could we own?

1098
01:20:51,650 --> 01:20:55,470
And if you integrate AI and you had your editorial calendar

1099
01:20:55,470 --> 01:21:02,050
and then we had the video clips and talking about the work on KCDC with the business alliance.

1100
01:21:03,050 --> 01:21:10,390
So if we pulled in different aspects of what we've been working on, and you can certainly

1101
01:21:10,390 --> 01:21:17,050
speak to this, I think there's a way to utilize whether it's Claude, or Anthropic, or Chat,

1102
01:21:17,590 --> 01:21:23,090
and we might need to pay a higher subscription, but creating those files and then having your

1103
01:21:23,090 --> 01:21:30,230
editorial calendar that's triggering those different platforms. Now we may need to get

1104
01:21:30,230 --> 01:21:37,770
someone in the Philippines or somewhere to be the one doing that and have a virtual assistant

1105
01:21:37,770 --> 01:21:47,930
who's helping on that but there is a way to make that not so cost heavy and to go the distance

1106
01:21:47,930 --> 01:21:54,590
and decides strategically it's a three-year commitment and this is the theme

1107
01:21:54,590 --> 01:21:59,690
and the category and the focus. So I mean I do think it's worth looking into I

1108
01:21:59,690 --> 01:22:04,230
don't think we need to go broke doing it. And if we're having to talk people into

1109
01:22:04,230 --> 01:22:09,210
playing with us and that's where the pain point and the inconsistency is, then

1110
01:22:09,210 --> 01:22:11,530
I'm like let's figure out how to do it for us.

1111
01:22:15,570 --> 01:22:21,470
I like to stay in my will house so when we start talking about the numbers, I'm all in

1112
01:22:21,470 --> 01:22:29,010
it, but I defer to those who have the expertise and the mayor, the new Councilman for my

1113
01:22:29,010 --> 01:22:29,330
will.

1114
01:22:30,370 --> 01:22:31,610
That's all I have to say.

1115
01:22:33,670 --> 01:22:37,150
I want to keep us on task as we're starting strap plan 11, Devon?

1116
01:22:37,930 --> 01:22:44,390
Just really quickly, I guess, just offer a little bit of my insight in what I've been seeing so far.

1117
01:22:45,710 --> 01:22:48,230
Just for those that aren't familiar, my background is economic development.

1118
01:22:48,750 --> 01:22:52,770
And so economic development marketing is a little different than tourism marketing.

1119
01:22:54,030 --> 01:22:57,190
And then I've been accused of being a new age economic developer.

1120
01:22:57,450 --> 01:23:01,470
But my philosophy is that everything is economic development and economic development is everything.

1121
01:23:01,470 --> 01:23:06,810
And I think you take that approach when you apply it to tourism, especially with KEMA.

1122
01:23:07,710 --> 01:23:13,930
If you look at KCDC and HOT, HOT you can spend on nine specific things.

1123
01:23:14,610 --> 01:23:15,810
KCDC you get a little broader.

1124
01:23:16,530 --> 01:23:21,430
But KEMA is in a unique situation where you start to look at it as what is one of our primary

1125
01:23:21,430 --> 01:23:22,190
industry sectors.

1126
01:23:22,770 --> 01:23:23,290
It's tourism.

1127
01:23:25,270 --> 01:23:29,410
You know, one of the things that Caesar and I bonded over when we first met at a conference

1128
01:23:29,410 --> 01:23:36,070
a couple of years ago is, and I've been railing against this for a long time, is I've worked

1129
01:23:36,070 --> 01:23:41,770
for some of the other cities on the lake and in the region. I don't think there's enough

1130
01:23:41,770 --> 01:23:49,230
marrying of the tourism aspect and the economic development aspect. There's not enough that

1131
01:23:49,230 --> 01:23:56,910
I feel is done to market chema or the area for, what's the word I'm looking for. We do a lot

1132
01:23:56,910 --> 01:24:01,270
of marketing to attractive visitors, but we don't do a lot of tourism marketing to attract

1133
01:24:02,030 --> 01:24:09,150
tourism amenities. So, you know, amenities. So, you know, you have this situation where,

1134
01:24:09,730 --> 01:24:16,350
you know, can we use hot funds to market opportunities for tourism development in KEMA?

1135
01:24:17,110 --> 01:24:24,810
Then that's something that serves KCDC. Alternatively, is there something that KCDC can find locally

1136
01:24:24,810 --> 01:24:32,150
like a restaurant week, or a shop local campaign, or a handful of small events a year that

1137
01:24:32,150 --> 01:24:37,650
populate a calendar, then we can market that calendar around to show that there are

1138
01:24:37,650 --> 01:24:39,290
things going on when you come to town.

1139
01:24:41,150 --> 01:24:47,230
I have kind of drafted a marketing plan that I've kind of bounced off a couple of people,

1140
01:24:47,410 --> 01:24:52,670
but the idea is instead of casting this broad net that I think we've done in the past

1141
01:24:53,450 --> 01:24:59,130
We'll do some stuff with MDR, we'll do some stuff in USA today, we'll do some stuff in Texas highways.

1142
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:29,980
Print and blah, blah, blah. It's almost like you pick your campaigns and you basically lean into it. So if we do a fall campaign to start trying to boost, you know, offseason numbers. There's a company, AJR, that's very similar to MDR, they've reached out. They would basically handle the nuts and bolts of the marketing, we dictate the content, the theming, et cetera. But they're the ones kind of doing that on our behalf. It's, you know, a consultant.

1143
01:25:29,980 --> 01:25:36,640
It's a marketing firm, but then there's other platforms that I've found where you can basically

1144
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:43,220
submit an RFP for influencers and say, hey, we're doing this fall theme on blank. We're looking

1145
01:25:43,220 --> 01:25:48,900
for people that have this kind of tone, this kind of demographics, what they're following, and then

1146
01:25:49,420 --> 01:25:57,020
we bring them in to participate in the events that we're doing the campaign for, and then we kind of

1147
01:25:57,020 --> 01:26:05,240
build into it. So instead of doing this shotgun approach, it's basically picking two to three campaigns a year and really honing in on, you know,

1148
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:10,020
let's say we decided to do a chemo food and wine festival.

1149
01:26:11,100 --> 01:26:18,320
We campaign that we have all these opportunities to do that, but then we also have someone come in and participate in that festival,

1150
01:26:18,620 --> 01:26:26,560
and then generate a bunch of content that gets us exposure after the festival, but then provides marketing materials for us to market the next years.

1151
01:26:29,100 --> 01:26:32,060
So that's just kind of the approach that I'm kind of,

1152
01:26:34,220 --> 01:26:37,180
what's the word I'm looking for, it's kind of like my instinct.

1153
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,840
When I look at all the things that we've got going on here is, you know,

1154
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:45,260
you can kind of marry some of the funding streams here where we can use tourism

1155
01:26:45,260 --> 01:26:48,180
marketing to help attract new businesses for KCDC.

1156
01:26:48,820 --> 01:26:53,480
We can use KCDC to help establish campaigns that benefit marketing,

1157
01:26:54,460 --> 01:26:56,340
but just tying it all together.

1158
01:27:40,970 --> 01:27:41,030
Yeah.

1159
01:28:08,830 --> 01:28:09,230
Any

1160
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:45,000
other stuff?

1161
01:28:47,630 --> 01:28:47,990
Thanks.

1162
01:28:48,210 --> 01:28:49,970
If we can transition then to events.

1163
01:28:52,050 --> 01:28:54,530
Feedback on events that we've had throughout the city.

1164
01:28:54,850 --> 01:28:56,170
What is your feedback on events?

1165
01:28:56,770 --> 01:28:57,570
What can we do better?

1166
01:28:57,770 --> 01:28:58,590
What can we do more of?

1167
01:28:58,650 --> 01:28:59,630
What can we do less of?

1168
01:29:00,530 --> 01:29:04,110
Is there any content or anything we can have on that end?

1169
01:29:04,230 --> 01:29:06,690
Because right now, as far as the city's events are concerned,

1170
01:29:07,390 --> 01:29:08,550
I'll go backwards, I guess.

1171
01:29:08,670 --> 01:29:09,810
We've got pancakes with Santa.

1172
01:29:10,030 --> 01:29:11,510
We've got lighting in the Christmas tree.

1173
01:29:11,510 --> 01:29:17,350
We have the Halloween event, we have National night out, we have Fourth of July and Easter.

1174
01:29:17,690 --> 01:29:17,810
What?

1175
01:29:17,990 --> 01:29:19,710
I think we're in Fourth of July, Easter.

1176
01:29:21,130 --> 01:29:22,410
You have Monning, Grupp, Hurray.

1177
01:29:22,710 --> 01:29:22,870
Right.

1178
01:29:23,150 --> 01:29:30,190
So as we're doing that, those are our core of events, not including the ones that we sponsor

1179
01:29:30,190 --> 01:29:32,950
or held in the city by other entities, whatever the case is.

1180
01:29:33,090 --> 01:29:39,290
How do we feel about events more or less, focus more on some, less on others, what's the overall

1181
01:29:39,290 --> 01:29:40,010
direction on that?

1182
01:29:40,610 --> 01:29:43,850
But it's almost been like, well, we've always done this way and we've kind of tried to

1183
01:29:43,850 --> 01:29:46,050
more fit it, make it better, whatever the case is.

1184
01:29:51,030 --> 01:29:54,970
It ties to communication events and marketing, that's why I think it's a segue.

1185
01:29:55,910 --> 01:29:59,950
I think some of the events that the city should...

1186
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:15,420
There's a few legacy events, I think, should stay, and I think there's some that should, this body should really listen to staff of whether it's worth doing or not as a city. It doesn't mean we can't sponsor it, it doesn't mean we can't help an organizer do it.

1187
01:30:17,540 --> 01:30:27,780
I think the Easter eggs with the kids is a great event. I also know that it is an incredibly heavy lift for staff to pull off every year on top of everything else.

1188
01:30:27,780 --> 01:30:32,780
So when you talk staff, it's me, I'm the one that does it, I'm one person.

1189
01:30:33,380 --> 01:30:44,020
You know, so, you know, I think we need to figure out ways that if we're going to do them to lighten the load a little bit on staff.

1190
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:56,300
You know, whether it's, you know, and the Lions Club is incredibly involved, don't get me wrong, not, you know, we have a partnership with them, but, you know, I think we need to find more help for some of these events.

1191
01:30:56,300 --> 01:31:00,960
and I don't want to cancel events that's not what I'm advocating. I just I think some of them

1192
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:06,820
Might not be worth the lift doing it as city staff. That's

1193
01:31:09,860 --> 01:31:12,820
and we should probably do the marty the 4th of July parade

1194
01:31:12,820 --> 01:31:18,240
At a different time, but that's gonna get me that's gonna give me absolutely eviscerated, but there you go

1195
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:18,680
It's all around

1196
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:26,300
The only thing I would like to say is that and I do appreciate I've been volunteering like with Easter

1197
01:31:26,300 --> 01:31:32,220
from I think from day one when you when you when you came to the city.

1198
01:31:34,510 --> 01:31:35,770
Some bigger

1199
01:31:35,770 --> 01:31:49,230
some way to really move the needle on that volunteer committee. So we have we do

1200
01:31:49,230 --> 01:31:56,250
have Dan and now she does she helps as much as she can but still when you have me

1201
01:31:56,250 --> 01:31:58,210
and Devon is trying to help too.

1202
01:31:58,710 --> 01:32:04,030
When we're the only two that ever volunteer to do anything out of all the employees.

1203
01:32:04,630 --> 01:32:05,550
I'm talking about citizens.

1204
01:32:05,950 --> 01:32:06,470
I'm not talking about-

1205
01:32:06,470 --> 01:32:08,050
Okay, we've tried it with citizens.

1206
01:32:08,190 --> 01:32:10,730
You know I've tried it with citizens, I've put it out there.

1207
01:32:11,150 --> 01:32:12,050
They're all gung ho.

1208
01:32:12,610 --> 01:32:15,070
And when it comes down to it, it's a ghost town.

1209
01:32:16,890 --> 01:32:18,810
And Kathy, have you have shown up?

1210
01:32:19,750 --> 01:32:21,110
Ms. Sylvie has shown up.

1211
01:32:22,390 --> 01:32:25,610
Every now and then, I can get some of the lines, Club, you know, they'll try and show up.

1212
01:32:27,410 --> 01:32:30,650
but we need the youth to get out there and help us.

1213
01:32:31,270 --> 01:32:33,910
Fourth of July, I'm not supposed to be in the heat,

1214
01:32:34,370 --> 01:32:35,310
but I'm out there every year.

1215
01:32:35,470 --> 01:32:36,290
Fourth of July, helping.

1216
01:32:37,490 --> 01:32:40,410
I had several seizures that me several people

1217
01:32:40,410 --> 01:32:41,130
that wanted to help.

1218
01:32:41,490 --> 01:32:42,410
I'd email them back.

1219
01:32:42,530 --> 01:32:43,250
Oh, we're gonna be there.

1220
01:32:44,170 --> 01:32:44,890
Anybody showed.

1221
01:32:45,910 --> 01:32:47,930
And they all have, and it's good intentions,

1222
01:32:48,990 --> 01:32:50,430
but you also gotta realize,

1223
01:32:50,630 --> 01:32:52,990
Fourth of July, they have their own family with plans.

1224
01:32:54,230 --> 01:32:56,050
And a lot of that's not wanting to go out there

1225
01:32:56,050 --> 01:33:05,430
in, you know, help. So it's just, we have 40 employees. It's not like we're

1226
01:33:05,430 --> 01:33:09,790
Texas City or Friendswood or Webster where you have, and Lake City, all these

1227
01:33:09,790 --> 01:33:17,350
employees that can help. So along those lines, you know, we've had some

1228
01:33:17,350 --> 01:33:21,850
discussions on events here and there. If we were to consolidate or to merge some

1229
01:33:21,850 --> 01:33:25,290
of those, which ones do you think would be the one that we'd be eyeing to merge?

1230
01:33:25,290 --> 01:33:30,090
because we have some thoughts, but I'd like to get y'all's input on that. You first.

1231
01:33:31,150 --> 01:33:31,870
Thank you.

1232
01:33:33,870 --> 01:33:34,310
Okay.

1233
01:33:35,570 --> 01:33:37,930
I might go down the rabbit hole with you, but you first.

1234
01:33:39,470 --> 01:33:40,590
No, go ahead.

1235
01:33:42,490 --> 01:33:43,390
Let's go in order.

1236
01:33:44,510 --> 01:33:48,650
Easter is very popular.

1237
01:33:49,530 --> 01:33:50,710
It is a labor of love.

1238
01:33:50,710 --> 01:33:54,910
It is a long, long day, a lot of moving parts.

1239
01:33:55,310 --> 01:33:59,610
I think it'd be hard because it's hard to eliminate a bit where there's another one around

1240
01:33:59,610 --> 01:33:59,850
it.

1241
01:34:00,070 --> 01:34:04,590
So, I would say the two that are closest to each other and throw things at me and Mr.

1242
01:34:04,670 --> 01:34:10,230
if you want, you've got Halloween and National Night Out are within a short time frame of each

1243
01:34:10,230 --> 01:34:10,470
other.

1244
01:34:11,990 --> 01:34:14,470
Fourth of the lie is fourth of the lie, that's what it is.

1245
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:19,880
But I think it's probably that pancake with Santa and lighting of the Christmas tree.

1246
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:24,380
I think those are the two that are probably the biggest challenge because they're within

1247
01:34:25,220 --> 01:34:25,620
what?

1248
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:27,280
Days of each other.

1249
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:32,300
And I think what we did last year with Lighting the Christmas Tree was kind of neat

1250
01:34:32,300 --> 01:34:35,500
with closing the street and the bleachers and whatnot.

1251
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:40,240
I think that's probably the biggest challenge it is those.

1252
01:34:41,420 --> 01:34:44,560
I think the pancake was saying is nice, but I think sometimes the parents think it's more

1253
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:45,820
for them than it is for the kids.

1254
01:34:47,620 --> 01:34:49,800
I wish it was the way we could maybe more of those two.

1255
01:34:50,540 --> 01:34:55,320
I don't know if that's the situation because the kids and before they go on Christmas break

1256
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:59,960
and the carolers and being a week night, not a weekend, because you know I'm never getting

1257
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:28,920
I get the carolers out there on that time, so we're open to suggestions on that. Well, if you combine the two, the pancakes with Santa and the lighting of the Chris tree, it doesn't have to be pancakes with Santa. It could be cookie making with Santa and lighting of the Christmas tree. So this year, I'd demonstrate me a person's phone number. I called to me yesterday. They do. I have snow over a year for pancakes with Santa. They actually go out there and do the snowballs. Kids love it, but there's also a company that

1258
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:33,980
out there now that it actually looks like snow falling, so you'd have to have both.

1259
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:38,700
But if you combined the both and have it as like a winter wonderland,

1260
01:35:39,260 --> 01:35:42,640
you would still have the effect of the kids would have the snow.

1261
01:35:43,180 --> 01:35:46,700
We'd still be doing the lighting of the Christmas tree.

1262
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:50,300
You know, it would all start around four or five in the evening.

1263
01:35:51,020 --> 01:35:55,580
And it would work up to the big finale would be the lighting of the Christmas tree.

1264
01:35:55,580 --> 01:36:02,300
We would still have the elementary schools here singing I have to get quotes this year on because we've got to have

1265
01:36:02,300 --> 01:36:06,140
Chairs out there because people just standing out there that was a

1266
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:12,560
A lot of complaints last year the parents were where we supposed to sick is you realize I had 86 students

1267
01:36:13,300 --> 01:36:19,960
86 students if they at least had two parents there and then if the parents were divorced that made four

1268
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:25,560
You know separate parents and then siblings and the grandmothers and we had a big event

1269
01:36:25,580 --> 01:36:32,500
last year. And I think if we combine the two, I think it would really turn into something.

1270
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:34,240
Plus, we have the market out there also.

1271
01:36:34,580 --> 01:36:44,840
I think you could combine those. And maybe it's not even an activity. Maybe it's, here's

1272
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:46,600
cookies and hot chocolate under this tin.

1273
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:46,940
Exactly.

1274
01:36:46,940 --> 01:36:53,420
kids, and you can go set on Santa's lap for these hours. Form a line, take a picture,

1275
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:55,800
top thing.

1276
01:36:58,410 --> 01:37:04,270
I think we could definitely combine those and take a little stress and

1277
01:37:04,270 --> 01:37:10,890
relieve staff a bit. And I think also, for me, I'm always going to think about budget wise,

1278
01:37:11,070 --> 01:37:15,290
it's also, we can probably put more money into one and then not be

1279
01:37:15,290 --> 01:37:19,750
there and still be a saving. So I think it allows us the opportunity to be able to

1280
01:37:19,750 --> 01:37:27,230
to actually do that. So I would I would appreciate looking at that and and here's the beauty of it.

1281
01:37:27,450 --> 01:37:31,090
That's what we'll do for 2046. But if it doesn't work, we don't like it. We can change it.

1282
01:37:31,090 --> 01:37:36,030
I'll listen to that. You know, go back and change something different. But I think it allows us to be able to do some

1283
01:37:36,030 --> 01:37:40,010
different stuff. I think the conversation you have on the lines, Club 2 though, because they are

1284
01:37:42,950 --> 01:37:46,350
But they also do the cookies for the line of the history.

1285
01:37:46,710 --> 01:37:51,230
I know it's a big fundraiser, but one of their big pushes for the year is volunteer,

1286
01:37:51,570 --> 01:37:53,990
because they've got some of the hours they're supposed to do as an organization.

1287
01:37:54,570 --> 01:37:54,830
Absolutely.

1288
01:37:55,810 --> 01:37:57,670
This would be a much longer conversation.

1289
01:37:57,930 --> 01:38:02,310
We wanted to get a poll from you guys to try to have that conversation with them next and go for that.

1290
01:38:02,510 --> 01:38:07,810
It might have started being made for pancakes this year, so it may not be able to be done for this year.

1291
01:38:07,810 --> 01:38:14,130
So we'll see what we do sorry about that going back to the national night out. Yes. Okay. I'm new to this council

1292
01:38:14,130 --> 01:38:23,170
But what did the city do for with it? Oh, man. We was big. We we we arguably argued it was probably one of our biggest events

1293
01:38:23,170 --> 01:38:28,850
Yeah, it's one of the things we've been handled several different ways all in one location versus

1294
01:38:29,830 --> 01:38:35,510
The police going to different entities around the city. Well, the only reason I'm asking is my new

1295
01:38:35,510 --> 01:38:41,190
part of the manager is saying she's going to handle everything and one thing she mentioned was

1296
01:38:41,190 --> 01:38:46,750
National Night Out. So we could do National Night Out in several different ways but basically what

1297
01:38:46,750 --> 01:38:55,590
it is it's a way for public service and specifically police to have an evening or some time with the

1298
01:38:55,590 --> 01:39:02,730
residents in a very neutral calm fun setting. This past year we converted the city parking lot into a

1299
01:39:02,730 --> 01:39:11,510
huge interactive location we had a market we had handouts and we had the vehicles

1300
01:39:11,510 --> 01:39:15,370
out there and kids could come out and and partake and we had popcorn and

1301
01:39:15,370 --> 01:39:22,830
bubbles and I mean it was something where it allows people to come out and have

1302
01:39:22,830 --> 01:39:32,710
that partnership with PD in a nice neutral setting. I will say one of the things

1303
01:39:32,710 --> 01:39:37,510
You know, the actual meals or what was it we called it with chema?

1304
01:39:39,310 --> 01:39:44,310
Um, that we talked about doing with Tony, we're all the restaurants had the samples.

1305
01:39:44,850 --> 01:39:45,970
Yeah, I know what you're tasting chema.

1306
01:39:46,010 --> 01:39:46,950
Taste of chema, thank you.

1307
01:39:47,130 --> 01:39:51,090
So we had a taste of chema, if you will, it was the intent to have a taste of chema the

1308
01:39:51,090 --> 01:39:51,590
same night.

1309
01:39:52,070 --> 01:39:56,930
So now you're getting the restaurants to come out and partake in that environment where

1310
01:39:56,930 --> 01:39:58,090
you can get the word out for them.

1311
01:39:58,090 --> 01:39:59,770
So we talk about marketing, finding your demographics.

1312
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:29,140
We'll come out and come meet the community as well. Come to the community and set the community coming to you. So those are the type of things that are also kind of a KCDC initiative because we're getting the businesses out as well. And it was a way to do and kind of two for one, if you will. But that's what we did last year. That seemed to work pretty well. I was used to the old way of, all right, we're going to hop in a caravan. We're going to go and go visit chemo, HWA. We're going to go visit the Huntington.

1313
01:40:29,140 --> 01:40:32,420
and we're going to go, you know, Bay off of Bay

1314
01:40:32,420 --> 01:40:34,440
and whatever those locations would be

1315
01:40:34,440 --> 01:40:36,100
and we're going to go have that conversation.

1316
01:40:36,660 --> 01:40:38,460
But there's also smaller ones, you know.

1317
01:40:39,020 --> 01:40:40,960
You know, in a previous city, we did garage gaps

1318
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:44,000
where we just said, hey, first Tuesday of the month,

1319
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:46,260
we're going to go meet in, you know, someone's garage

1320
01:40:46,260 --> 01:40:47,960
and we're going to rotate that amongst the places.

1321
01:40:48,140 --> 01:40:49,500
Hey, neighbors, come invite people to your house

1322
01:40:49,500 --> 01:40:50,300
to do those.

1323
01:40:50,700 --> 01:40:53,500
It doesn't have to be these bigger, different things.

1324
01:40:53,740 --> 01:40:56,100
We call those garage gaps because we brought government

1325
01:40:56,100 --> 01:40:56,920
to the residents.

1326
01:40:56,920 --> 01:41:03,010
So, a lot of things we can do, I'm going to get absolutely flamed for this.

1327
01:41:03,190 --> 01:41:06,510
Miss Sylvia may show up and slap me when she finds out I said it, it's okay.

1328
01:41:07,730 --> 01:41:13,670
I really, really think staff needs to explore, move in the 4th of July parade to a different

1329
01:41:13,670 --> 01:41:16,330
day, to like the day before.

1330
01:41:17,830 --> 01:41:22,130
It's not that unheard of, there are places that do it, there are going to be people that

1331
01:41:22,130 --> 01:41:25,910
abs, I don't know, they may come at my house, but that's fine.

1332
01:41:25,910 --> 01:41:31,330
Every time we have tried to move that right, it is gone viral in opposition.

1333
01:41:32,330 --> 01:41:37,010
Yeah, I'm going to get it for saying it.

1334
01:41:38,710 --> 01:41:39,810
There's just not very many.

1335
01:41:40,190 --> 01:41:47,890
I don't think most of the residents understand just how grueling that day is for staff.

1336
01:41:49,510 --> 01:41:54,730
I mean, I get paid by my day job to stand out there all day, so that's just what it is.

1337
01:41:54,730 --> 01:42:02,370
I can't escape it, but I think asking staff to be there at the crack of dawn, to then

1338
01:42:02,370 --> 01:42:07,230
deal with the chaos of the parade and the roul and the timing and we fight about that

1339
01:42:07,230 --> 01:42:10,490
every year to get them out of the way because it's the business day of the year.

1340
01:42:11,050 --> 01:42:15,530
And then you're there all night and doing all of the worst traffic day of the year arguably,

1341
01:42:16,110 --> 01:42:22,730
you know, some New Year's Eve's are worse, but I just really think it needs to be explored.

1342
01:42:22,730 --> 01:42:42,550
So it's hard for me to, I don't like asking staff to do that, I just really don't, and they do it, and they put a smile on their face, and they suffer through it with the businesses in the district, but I just, I think there's a more efficient way to go about it.

1343
01:42:42,550 --> 01:42:50,950
When I lived in Alexander, we had a little old gentleman who ran an Irish club and he brought

1344
01:42:50,950 --> 01:42:57,190
us to the world that his St. Paddy's Day parade was the first in the country.

1345
01:42:57,870 --> 01:43:06,200
So every first weekend in March, he would be the grand leprechaun, so to speak, and he'd

1346
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:13,640
riding in the parade just enjoying it, up in the morning to you know like that. And we got help

1347
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:20,820
from the different neighbors or the different organizations around the businesses. And he got

1348
01:43:20,820 --> 01:43:29,040
by with it, he did a lot of broadcasting, his restaurant contributed it. And when you show where he's

1349
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:34,600
Saturday, but you know, we could, we could possibly do something like that, but a little

1350
01:43:34,600 --> 01:43:42,140
more organized way. I mean, I may say I understand what you're saying, because it, I couldn't

1351
01:43:42,140 --> 01:43:48,240
miss, I had another obligation on the floor, but the idea is it can be done.

1352
01:43:49,500 --> 01:43:53,800
Well, this year is one of those years that we might want to institute that. Fourth of

1353
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:58,560
live this year this next year is going to be on a Sunday. So that's going to make things

1354
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:06,040
interesting. And maybe also a lower turnout, it's not going to be the 250th. It's a Sunday

1355
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:09,760
which is usually church time in the morning is going to conflict with that. So maybe this

1356
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:13,500
would be the year that we attempt to do that. And we could try that. And I think it's a

1357
01:44:13,500 --> 01:44:18,320
fair shot to do that. So it sounds to me like there's a post to possibly try to do that.

1358
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:25,040
I will, I will still hopefully use my, I'm still new here, I didn't know, uh, uh,

1359
01:44:25,140 --> 01:44:29,200
and Charm on the head over very well, um, but, but it's just a thought, it's just a thought.

1360
01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:32,760
I see, though, from a golf cart standpoint, it is, is if we're going to do a golf cart

1361
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:37,740
event, I think it really needs to be and can conglomerate with clear, like, shores, because

1362
01:44:37,740 --> 01:44:41,980
people do put a lot of effort, and I think people would put even more effort if it was

1363
01:44:41,980 --> 01:44:46,620
a bigger thing that you actually participated in, and I think you can make it an all day

1364
01:44:46,620 --> 01:44:51,520
a fair home. They did the scavenger hunt from Jackie's and they had I think a hundred participants.

1365
01:44:52,020 --> 01:44:56,800
A lot of golf carts. So I mean I think the appetite is there between the island and here.

1366
01:44:57,300 --> 01:44:59,840
It's just a matter of somebody organizing that and making it fun.

1367
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:28,320
I think for everybody on the island, they could be, you know, kind of like east of west, like short water wars. Maybe it's the golf cart wars between the two or, you know, decorating, there's some sort of competitive because most cities are very competitive. So, I mean, I think you'd see a lot more effort put into it because there's a few of us that do a lot. I mean, it takes hours to do it. It's not like you just go out there and put a couple of balloons on it. So, I mean, and I think where people would be more interested in it, if it was a bigger event,

1368
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:32,900
And last a little longer than 30 minutes and then you go home and take all the stuff off your golf cart

1369
01:45:32,900 --> 01:45:38,540
I'm like it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to go all out elaborately for just, you know, half-mile

1370
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:40,980
I'll be rude, but that's kind of where we stand

1371
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:45,840
That would be something for both cities to talk about. I'm gonna throw this out here out there

1372
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:50,540
I think this is something it's on. I think this is something we need to get Deanne to do

1373
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:53,660
Because there's no way this staff can do that

1374
01:45:54,260 --> 01:45:58,420
So maybe get her involved in like the parade, let her take the lead on that.

1375
01:45:59,780 --> 01:46:03,220
As her Sam been to their Christmas and their Fourth of July.

1376
01:46:03,580 --> 01:46:08,120
It's really nice to go all the way around the lake and it takes longer.

1377
01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:12,420
And then they have the who caught Christmas where you pull up.

1378
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:14,080
I mean, they have a golf cart.

1379
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:17,100
But you can go on the bridge and you can make a deal out of it.

1380
01:46:17,540 --> 01:46:19,020
And you can make a deal out of it.

1381
01:46:19,020 --> 01:46:23,920
And then West Keema would actually have some sort of an event so if they wanted to participate

1382
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:27,220
you could do it down a certain route because we don't never do anything in West Keema.

1383
01:46:28,060 --> 01:46:31,560
Because I think I like the fire department, WCA-12, they do the whole district.

1384
01:46:31,820 --> 01:46:35,180
They don't just do Keema. They do the whole district when they do the same appeal.

1385
01:46:35,900 --> 01:46:42,080
So I mean, you could use that golf carts go 12 to 15 miles on batteries and then gas of those 40 miles.

1386
01:46:42,260 --> 01:46:46,240
So I'm like, so it's not like it's a push for all these golf carts to actually make that trip.

1387
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:52,240
So I think people would enjoy it if we figure out a way to tie it in because you're talking to a 300 golf cart probably

1388
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:54,160
Between the two entities

1389
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:59,140
Most of those people come over here, so I'm like participate in the chemo

1390
01:46:59,140 --> 01:47:05,200
When Jackie was doing that golf cart run, it was extremely popular a lot of participation

1391
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:10,260
Oh, I didn't know this one. They had about a hundred participants. I know they had the accident

1392
01:47:10,260 --> 01:47:12,460
I sort of say the accident is what

1393
01:47:12,460 --> 01:47:17,240
Is it is it fairly easy to get from chema to clear like shores and back?

1394
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:25,580
Would it be worth doing something like one night would you chemo one night would you clear like shores and almost doing like a cruise in the coast?

1395
01:47:25,740 --> 01:47:33,540
But it's just golf carts. Definitely can be something where people I think would decorate the golf carts if you had something to do with them because we come over

1396
01:47:33,540 --> 01:47:35,140
For an hour and then we go on

1397
01:47:43,420 --> 01:47:47,560
Santa excursion because of the new addition and population we have.

1398
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:51,740
Well, Jerry, Devon, sounds like we've been challenged.

1399
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:57,700
So we will, as in the spirit of what we always do,

1400
01:47:57,780 --> 01:47:59,760
we will definitely step up to the challenge.

1401
01:48:00,060 --> 01:48:02,120
Real quick, I want to go over just a few of the departments.

1402
01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:03,040
Devon, thank you.

1403
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:05,620
Jerry, you guys are always welcome to stick around.

1404
01:48:05,860 --> 01:48:06,020
Very quickly.

1405
01:48:06,020 --> 01:48:08,340
Thank you for the efforts on the website.

1406
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:10,300
You've been very responsive to.

1407
01:48:10,300 --> 01:48:11,280
I'll give them a pass.

1408
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:13,320
Thank you.

1409
01:48:13,580 --> 01:48:15,260
Real quick permitting.

1410
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:19,020
We have streamlined our efficiency of permitting.

1411
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:23,620
I think we're doing better at the point that some folks have

1412
01:48:23,620 --> 01:48:25,540
even said that other cities should do some things

1413
01:48:25,540 --> 01:48:25,980
that we do.

1414
01:48:26,460 --> 01:48:28,480
Our pre-development meetings that we have consistently

1415
01:48:28,480 --> 01:48:29,960
are a pretty big hit.

1416
01:48:30,820 --> 01:48:33,480
And it has turned out to people getting their permits faster.

1417
01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:37,760
So that is something that I'm proud of, so for NOLA and the

1418
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:40,180
a contractor that she worked with, so we're happy about that.

1419
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:43,080
There's a lot of dust throughout the city, guys.

1420
01:48:43,380 --> 01:48:43,740
There's a lot.

1421
01:48:43,940 --> 01:48:45,100
You've got every corner of the city,

1422
01:48:45,200 --> 01:48:46,440
there's literally every corner of the city

1423
01:48:46,440 --> 01:48:50,000
between the boardwalk with the water slide or park.

1424
01:48:50,620 --> 01:48:53,220
You've got the hotel going on down the street,

1425
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:54,520
you've got the Coda on that end,

1426
01:48:54,580 --> 01:48:55,560
you've got the Marine on the other end.

1427
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:57,400
So every corner of the city in the end of the between,

1428
01:48:57,600 --> 01:48:59,000
you've got the car wash and things going up.

1429
01:48:59,480 --> 01:49:00,680
There's things that are happening.

1430
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:03,220
So exciting times for us, but on permitting,

1431
01:49:03,440 --> 01:49:04,780
that's pretty much all I have.

1432
01:49:06,440 --> 01:49:12,220
We talked about events, we talked about everything that we're pushing forward, and we want to continue that spirit moving forward.

1433
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:21,960
KCDC had some great discussion, I'd like to go over that if we have time maybe after lunch to kind of go over the direction with them here as to where we're doing together.

1434
01:49:22,860 --> 01:49:30,720
But real quick, public works, there is a lot of space that this team maintains.

1435
01:49:31,340 --> 01:49:39,240
last night when we went to the KCDC board, we went to the board and even requested a possibility of adding more staff or a half a staff member halfway through the year.

1436
01:49:41,060 --> 01:49:47,560
I see the look in the guys eyes at this time of year and they're just trying to pull through until the heat kind of wears down a little bit.

1437
01:49:48,260 --> 01:49:54,960
But they've taken on a very, very big project with this tree project. I'm happy to report that all but to the trees that we were planning are planted.

1438
01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:59,960
And as we speak, I've been talking on the contract before getting here all morning, there's

1439
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:26,280
18 additional very, very large trees that are going in between yesterday, today, tomorrow, and hopefully will be done by Thursday. So the tree project will be done last night. And then tonight, obviously with your action, we'll move forward with the rest of that project. So that project is moving swiftly. So kudos to our public works. The equipment is being being used. We're getting the county to help us with some of these drainage projects. But the pump station still a challenge.

1440
01:50:27,220 --> 01:50:34,720
We're probably going to look into that robotic mower here soon, but I think at some point there's only certain efficiencies you can have.

1441
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:39,420
Autonomous would be probably the next most efficient thing that we could look to add here in the future.

1442
01:50:40,220 --> 01:50:45,880
And see we could company that with what we pay for mowing versus doing some of that in house and whatever the cases.

1443
01:50:46,060 --> 01:50:51,060
So that's going to be the study and the focus of that department for this year to see what we can do to bring forward in the next year.

1444
01:50:51,060 --> 01:50:55,600
but definitely made a lot of strides, increased efficiency, and the city overall looks good.

1445
01:50:55,700 --> 01:50:59,080
There's some spots that we've taken over from TechStyte that need a little help,

1446
01:50:59,940 --> 01:51:05,120
and we need to hold TechStyte to an extent. I'm going to say that I'm going to, like you said,

1447
01:51:05,220 --> 01:51:09,800
a second ago someone's going to throw something at me, but holding TechStyte accountable is difficult.

1448
01:51:11,260 --> 01:51:14,660
But exciting things happening. You've got your belt ramps going to be

1449
01:51:15,820 --> 01:51:21,740
letting in January, so your eco-tourism is almost in full effect between the

1450
01:51:21,740 --> 01:51:27,160
guest or center, 57-acre park, your linear park, and then culminating over at the

1451
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:31,880
boat ramp, you're going to have a total different look and feel to the city

1452
01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:36,120
where it's not just a boardwalk, right? Eco-tourism is a real thing, and I think

1453
01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:39,040
we're going to be the epicenter of that for the entire region with all the

1454
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:42,840
things that we're going to have to offer. So excited about that, excited about the

1455
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:46,200
work that the team is doing and what public work is doing on that end.

1456
01:51:46,940 --> 01:51:52,480
To that extent, speaking of public works, we have had a member of our public work team

1457
01:51:52,480 --> 01:51:54,600
go through some code enforcement training.

1458
01:51:55,600 --> 01:52:00,800
We are trying to ease the burden on the expenses that we have with code enforcement because

1459
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:03,180
obviously we're only budgeted to have them only a certain amount of time.

1460
01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:07,060
So we're increasing our efficiency in that and getting through some code things we haven't

1461
01:52:07,060 --> 01:52:07,780
gotten to in a while.

1462
01:52:08,280 --> 01:52:11,860
I want to praise, there's been some residents that have brought some things to us that want

1463
01:52:11,860 --> 01:52:17,860
things that we had noticed, things that they thought we had not noticed, and we went on a ride along we had fixed, and things that

1464
01:52:18,480 --> 01:52:26,240
just need to be fixed. So we're working on them and we're excited about that. You've got some places that have been negligent for a while that

1465
01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:33,880
have been addressed and some others that are going to be addressed soon. So I know that that was Aaron's number one task that he left me when he left

1466
01:52:35,020 --> 01:52:40,340
was code enforcement, I guess was the number one priority at the time for the drive of the council. So we're excited to see what we're going to be

1467
01:52:40,340 --> 01:52:44,220
moving forward. We're excited as to what that could mean for the

1468
01:52:44,220 --> 01:52:49,640
betterment of the team. And what it is that we want to see for that

1469
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:54,720
objective from public works. Between Hurricane Preparedness, the

1470
01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:58,140
service that Derry's office did with the public works staff, PD and

1471
01:52:58,140 --> 01:53:01,920
fire took part in. We're excited that direction that we're going in

1472
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:06,100
as far as public works is concerned. A lot of training is taking place, so

1473
01:53:06,100 --> 01:53:08,780
we're being as efficient as we possibly can right now on that side

1474
01:53:08,780 --> 01:53:17,260
things. Looking at the time, the only other one that I have is budget before we break. This

1475
01:53:17,260 --> 01:53:21,100
year, we'll talk about it more during budget workshops, so that's not too much of a need

1476
01:53:21,100 --> 01:53:26,480
to go through here. But I want to find out if they're still the appetite to continue

1477
01:53:26,480 --> 01:53:31,320
dropping property tax. It's important for me to know if that's what we're still driving towards.

1478
01:53:31,860 --> 01:53:37,060
I get the sentiment that it is, but anytime that one goes down, the other one has to go up.

1479
01:53:37,060 --> 01:53:39,800
Otherwise, we're going to just cut the budget and that's a different story.

1480
01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:47,420
So we've talked about Councilman Thorne brought up the roads initiative.

1481
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:49,500
I guess that's the best way that we can place that.

1482
01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:53,760
There are a few roads in our city that we do have to address.

1483
01:53:54,140 --> 01:53:55,800
We are aggressively going after grant funding.

1484
01:53:55,820 --> 01:53:59,920
I had a ride along with somebody yesterday looking at some possibilities of some grants.

1485
01:54:00,660 --> 01:54:02,280
So we are attacking these things.

1486
01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:09,040
we are attacking the CIP, but budget wise is the drive in the intent still, and I don't

1487
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:13,040
want to take the thunderway from what Ryan's worked on for this afternoon, is there still

1488
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:15,880
an intent for us to continue dropping property tax?

1489
01:54:16,660 --> 01:54:20,140
I just have a question in being new to this.

1490
01:54:20,780 --> 01:54:26,360
I don't understand the drive to drop property tax when we have costs going up and we have

1491
01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:30,680
police force that's not paid at a competitive level.

1492
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:39,360
So, just from an intellectual standpoint, I don't understand how we're going to make that work at some point.

1493
01:54:39,780 --> 01:54:55,680
So, great question, and very fair we have not had our one-on-one yet, but property tax has historically been something where the state itself is on a mission or an approach to eliminate property tax.

1494
01:54:56,540 --> 01:54:58,680
That is something that the state has been very adamant about.

1495
01:54:58,680 --> 01:54:59,960
We're

1496
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:12,260
We're locally in a better shape than other cities are because our sales tax is so much more than our property tax. We have other cities that it's the other way around. So for us, we're in advance when it comes to that.

1497
01:55:15,380 --> 01:55:31,280
The drive is because of how expensive things have become. So that's where the tear happens, right? There's staff pay, and we need this, and this hasn't been repaired in forever, and the buildings falling apart in whatever the case is, versus, hey, we're all hurting.

1498
01:55:31,900 --> 01:55:39,340
economy's hurting, it is what it is. So that's the tug and pull that we have. And that's why I need

1499
01:55:39,340 --> 01:55:44,720
direction. It's a bigger picture, though. And I think you got to look at it from a way 300 mile

1500
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:50,560
umbrella approach because, and that's what I look at is because we've been adding residents that

1501
01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:56,180
have record pace for our size of our town. So there's a lot of mechanisms to what's going on. We

1502
01:55:56,180 --> 01:55:59,620
still have the decodas that are going to come on board. That's going to bring another 250,

1503
01:55:59,620 --> 01:56:04,180
the, well, probably 400 people to town, 230 rooms to say.

1504
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:06,140
So, and if you figure it out,

1505
01:56:06,340 --> 01:56:09,540
then that's going to end up being $50 a person mathematically

1506
01:56:09,540 --> 01:56:12,660
to our budget indirectly, probably.

1507
01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:15,000
There's more than that per person at a national level,

1508
01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:16,320
but I mean, someone's going to get a league city

1509
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:18,440
because of HGB and Crogor being right down the street

1510
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:20,880
and we're not going to capture 100% of the sales tax

1511
01:56:21,340 --> 01:56:22,680
that's generated out that complex.

1512
01:56:23,460 --> 01:56:24,540
But that's coming to a halt.

1513
01:56:24,900 --> 01:56:26,780
I'm like, the water board is running out of water,

1514
01:56:27,300 --> 01:56:29,280
and we don't have water, so my development's done.

1515
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:37,180
And so this might be the last time we see property tax decreases because we've seen growth and that growth is coming to an end because we don't have water.

1516
01:56:37,620 --> 01:56:41,360
And that's just something I can't control on the side of the board.

1517
01:56:41,820 --> 01:56:47,660
We have the capacity but it's stuck at 517. I can't push it this forward and they don't have the pump station to push the pressure to it.

1518
01:56:48,060 --> 01:56:51,840
So I have developers calling me that I'm just telling them to like figure out my water issue.

1519
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:58,360
I can't do anything for you. So in essence, yes, we do have capacity, but we don't have it in town where it's needed.

1520
01:56:58,360 --> 01:57:09,120
So until the water board figures out their problems, then we're probably going to see a tax increase moving forward in my opinion because the growth of marriage came across.

1521
01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:10,800
It's coming to an end.

1522
01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:13,380
You're going to see Dakota in this next year.

1523
01:57:13,680 --> 01:57:19,680
I mean, I think they're going to start pre-leasing in October, so we'll start seeing the effects in this next budget in the following year.

1524
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:26,800
But I mean, after that, we don't have anything on the drawing board to start gravitating to start reducing taxes.

1525
01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:32,480
I mean, that's just what I foresee, and it's probably another board that has to deal with it.

1526
01:57:32,580 --> 01:57:35,900
But I mean, at the same time, I mean, everybody's being aware of what's coming down the road

1527
01:57:35,900 --> 01:57:41,420
because we've been very blessed with the growth that we've had and it's allowed us to do what

1528
01:57:41,420 --> 01:57:48,720
we've done. But at the same time, that's stopping. It's a train. I mean, I look at it like Leak City.

1529
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:53,700
Leak City keeps growing. They reduce taxes or say they don't reduce taxes. This budget cycle,

1530
01:57:53,700 --> 01:58:00,300
But you go to Oak Ridge on the north side of Houston they have no growth and with what the state did when changing laws and regulations

1531
01:58:00,300 --> 01:58:03,080
They're talking about a 9% increase in taxes

1532
01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:08,600
Same size cities pretty much, but they don't have any growth. They don't have anywhere to grow that business

1533
01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:14,160
So they're having to raise taxes. So either growing or you're gonna be raising your tax base because nothing's getting cheaper

1534
01:58:15,060 --> 01:58:16,040
And we're the

1535
01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:21,020
Unless I'm mistaken, the third lowest tax rate in the county is pretty good, so I was counting.

1536
01:58:21,740 --> 01:58:31,400
And I agree, I see a lot of that coming work to a slow down or an end over there, and I just, I don't think that would continue, you know.

1537
01:58:32,020 --> 01:58:35,140
Well, definitely tough decisions ahead, but I wanted to equate.

1538
01:58:35,300 --> 01:58:42,900
Again, having a smaller budget and so much help from sales tax for the sake of, let's call it a penny, okay.

1539
01:58:42,900 --> 01:58:46,620
Okay, last year we were at $19.99, so call it $0.20.

1540
01:58:49,500 --> 01:58:53,080
The approximate cost of a penny was $80,000.

1541
01:58:53,880 --> 01:58:57,180
So if we would have gone up or down to penny, it would have affected the bottom line of the

1542
01:58:57,180 --> 01:58:58,280
budget by $80,000.

1543
01:58:58,840 --> 01:59:03,000
So when you think about that in respect to a $7 million budget, the cost of the penny last

1544
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:04,140
year was about $80,000.

1545
01:59:04,760 --> 01:59:07,960
We haven't calculated that this year because we're not done yet and we're not final.

1546
01:59:08,140 --> 01:59:11,600
Hopefully by this afternoon when we have our budget workshop, we will be, but just so

1547
01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:16,780
you kind of have a perspective of what that penny is. My concern just from when I did

1548
01:59:16,780 --> 01:59:22,920
the initial overview and looking at it, it just doesn't make sense to me that we're

1549
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:32,580
not going up on property tax. And part of that is, is when you look at reserve, there's

1550
01:59:32,580 --> 01:59:40,680
not a lot there. And so if something happens, and there's a need, whether it's a road repair

1551
01:59:40,680 --> 01:59:49,600
or anything. There's just not that question. Another eye, you know, just annihilated this town and thank goodness

1552
01:59:49,600 --> 01:59:59,040
somebody could have restaurant in in 90 days, you know, after that happened and kind of gave hope to the whole environment.

1553
02:00:00,270 --> 02:00:26,050
We are here in the city. You know, people are just trying to recover, and they see that, and they're like, oh, we will survive this. And we did. But another one of those, and it will happen. I don't know who's lifetime or how good it is. And it reserves have always been important to me. And when they're not there, it's kind of scary.

1554
02:00:26,050 --> 02:00:28,430
Well, you've got sound

1555
02:00:29,790 --> 02:00:31,450
finances in the fact that you have no debt.

1556
02:00:31,910 --> 02:00:32,390
Absolutely.

1557
02:00:32,810 --> 02:00:36,750
You've got, you know, that's not common.

1558
02:00:36,950 --> 02:00:37,650
Six months reserves.

1559
02:00:37,930 --> 02:00:40,370
I mean, we're financially healthy as probably.

1560
02:00:40,570 --> 02:00:42,810
We're probably in a 95% tall top.

1561
02:00:42,910 --> 02:00:44,210
How would you agree with Darren?

1562
02:00:44,370 --> 02:00:47,250
With no debt and having the ability to pay our bills

1563
02:00:47,250 --> 02:00:49,730
for six months with no income coming out at all.

1564
02:00:50,330 --> 02:00:50,830
And you know.

1565
02:00:50,990 --> 02:00:52,450
There's not a city set in the position we're setting.

1566
02:00:52,690 --> 02:00:54,830
When we were talking earlier about the police department

1567
02:00:54,830 --> 02:01:04,330
and when their equipment needed updating and their vehicles to get counsel some years ago,

1568
02:01:04,490 --> 02:01:11,290
and I want to, you were here, four or five years ago, when this happened, to go to leasing

1569
02:01:11,290 --> 02:01:12,010
vehicles.

1570
02:01:12,750 --> 02:01:19,510
It was a major, you know, because all councils prior to that was, you pay cash for everything,

1571
02:01:19,510 --> 02:01:31,530
And then when you took the maintenance bills on all those vehicles and just continue to try to fix them when their life, their better life quality has already passed.

1572
02:01:31,870 --> 02:01:37,410
It just didn't make me sense anymore, but I remember the night council decided to do that in that budget cycle.

1573
02:01:37,530 --> 02:01:41,810
I was like, wow, we have maintenance with these vehicles.

1574
02:01:41,810 --> 02:01:52,070
that can get replaced and cycle down and the officers will be safer that can give more value to the entire, you know, safety of the public at this point.

1575
02:01:52,910 --> 02:02:00,450
It was a domino effect in my opinion. That was a huge, huge stepping stone for council at that time.

1576
02:02:00,710 --> 02:02:03,970
It had been unheard of in this town to finance anything.

1577
02:02:18,610 --> 02:02:27,830
I don't think that that's a common knowledge, and those are opportunities for I believe

1578
02:02:27,830 --> 02:02:34,530
to be the city to talk to the citizens and businesses about the soundness of Kemer.

1579
02:02:35,830 --> 02:02:36,570
That's a good point.

1580
02:02:37,470 --> 02:02:41,310
Well, I did want us to have a moment to have a break to transition to grab a bite.

1581
02:02:41,790 --> 02:02:44,290
I see two members of KCDC have already arrived.

1582
02:02:44,870 --> 02:02:48,090
What I'd like to do is kind of change the setting a little bit.

1583
02:02:48,210 --> 02:02:52,890
I think the folks will be here soon, so we'll get this going and get this thing started.

1584
02:02:53,110 --> 02:02:54,770
And if we could take a break, that's okay.

1585
02:03:14,260 --> 02:03:22,920
I want to make it more interactive so what I'm thinking is put a chair here in a chair there

1586
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:31,840
I think there's only going to be five, six, two, how many of you are coming so I'm

1587
02:03:31,840 --> 02:03:36,960
trying to get to? Yeah, I'm trying to find out how many of you are coming from KCDC so I can get

1588
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:41,840
the chairs to ask him and he's asking himself. I'll have to do myself. I'm talking out loud. I'm sorry.

1589
02:03:42,500 --> 02:03:45,800
Don't mind me guys. I'm on zero sleep. Hey, I'll worry.

1590
02:03:48,630 --> 02:03:51,170
Yeah, we can sit on either side. We have some folks

1591
02:03:51,170 --> 02:03:55,610
sit here. I'd like to have KCDC sitting here so we can have almost like a round table type thing.

1592
02:03:56,270 --> 02:03:58,810
Could you put these two chairs one on this side one on that side?

1593
02:04:00,310 --> 02:04:01,970
Yeah, yeah, I think that's a good idea.

1594
02:04:02,930 --> 02:04:03,190
Thank you.

1595
02:04:03,990 --> 02:04:04,390
Oh,

1596
02:04:08,820 --> 02:04:09,300
and then?

1597
02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:10,400
No.

1598
02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:12,320
What I need is some food and some talent.

1599
02:04:13,420 --> 02:04:14,760
I need some food and some talent.

1600
02:04:15,080 --> 02:04:15,900
Do you have talent?

1601
02:04:16,420 --> 02:04:17,280
Yeah, I got some yet.

1602
02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:18,600
What happened there?

1603
02:04:19,440 --> 02:04:22,020
Oh, I wish I had good enough.

1604
02:04:22,560 --> 02:04:23,520
It's used like that.

1605
02:04:34,960 --> 02:04:50,860
Okay, so there's a spot next to my left, I could also move, I have no problem, so there's a spot to my right, so these two seats are open, there's a seat there, or Jerry sitting there, so what we'll make do, where are we going to come to?

1606
02:04:57,520 --> 02:04:59,920
Natasha is the city secretary she's sitting

1607
02:05:04,360 --> 02:05:13,240
Let's make sure we get everybody a chance to get their food and get situated. I think we got enough food for you guys. So you guys want to come back. We'll have a working lunch.

1608
02:05:16,700 --> 02:05:29,520
Right there. Can we do a tear right here on this end? Yeah. Yeah. I love. Hey, there you go. Hey, how are you?

1609
02:05:42,460 --> 02:05:45,680
What I was going to say was do you need an easel I have a dry erase board.

1610
02:05:46,120 --> 02:05:51,700
That easel would be great okay I will grab it hey Devon could you grab the easel from the

1611
02:05:51,700 --> 02:05:59,460
back in the conference room if you want dry erase to or no okay no I'm saying I have

1612
02:06:04,420 --> 02:06:10,240
So, if you just, there's an easel that has some of this paper on it and I grab that, I have this thing in markers, if you need more colors markers.

1613
02:06:10,980 --> 02:06:12,520
Okay, I got it. I'll go grab it.

1614
02:06:12,760 --> 02:06:13,280
I love them.

1615
02:06:13,540 --> 02:06:13,660
Yeah.

1616
02:06:18,720 --> 02:06:21,240
Well, she's, and she's not going, I mean, she's short.

1617
02:06:22,820 --> 02:06:26,380
No, no, she's, she's, she's active, she wants to do something.

1618
02:06:26,420 --> 02:06:26,640
Okay.

1619
02:06:27,060 --> 02:06:27,700
I would love that.

1620
02:08:33,820 --> 02:08:38,440
It's better than, yeah, I think it's easy, but it's amazing.

1621
02:08:39,520 --> 02:08:47,970
All they have, I'm sorry, you're having a little, maybe that's the way it's worked

1622
02:08:56,060 --> 02:08:56,320
out.

1623
02:08:56,320 --> 02:08:58,800
Then you would see, not sure what I see in the country.

1624
02:08:59,540 --> 02:09:01,060
But that was, you

1625
02:09:09,670 --> 02:09:13,010
know, well, I think it was really funny, but I'm very happy.

1626
02:12:22,320 --> 02:12:25,380
He was at my house on a Friday night and passed away on Monday.

1627
02:12:31,470 --> 02:12:36,170
He had it at one of the restaurants here in town and bought it and had it placed in here because it was too big for his house.

1628
02:14:58,340 --> 02:14:59,880
That was a little boy.

1629
02:19:46,420 --> 02:19:48,100
I hope that they can make it worse.

1630
02:19:51,700 --> 02:19:59,960
In the meantime, I wanted to talk about a joint KCDC project that we have. Obviously, with the city support to launch-

1631
02:20:00,270 --> 02:20:12,450
A strategic plan. The idea is to make it a 2040 plan because you have to have enough of a runway to try to make these things possible, being that we try to start this in 2025.

1632
02:20:13,830 --> 02:20:20,150
The general idea put on R&P, the collaborative was selected, they've already met with staff,

1633
02:20:20,950 --> 02:20:22,410
gotten staff notes on that.

1634
02:20:22,910 --> 02:20:26,570
Next step was to meet with these two bodies so we want to be as efficient as possible

1635
02:20:26,570 --> 02:20:31,090
but also because it allows for idea sharing to occur between both entities.

1636
02:20:33,010 --> 02:20:38,110
But then after that we will start the public side of this thing which is having the public

1637
02:20:38,110 --> 02:20:39,330
meetings to get there and put as well.

1638
02:20:39,910 --> 02:20:45,710
So I would like to yield this time for this joint meeting to take place and then we can go from there

1639
02:20:47,150 --> 02:20:47,930
We're taking the meeting.

1640
02:20:52,820 --> 02:20:59,200
Thank you all for your time. My name is all on with that. I'm sorry. I might have to open we have to open up KCDC

1641
02:21:00,080 --> 02:21:04,320
To this adjoin workshop. Do we have to open up KCDC separate? I don't think so

1642
02:21:24,280 --> 02:21:25,220
Push the button

1643
02:21:28,180 --> 02:21:29,380
Thank you all for your time.

1644
02:21:29,980 --> 02:21:35,620
My name is Kave, I'm the architectural practice leader and principal at Collaborate Architects.

1645
02:21:35,780 --> 02:21:38,660
Happy to be here today to give this presentation on the strategic plan.

1646
02:21:40,180 --> 02:21:47,140
My colleagues, Dwayne Mallard and Miguel is here, project manager and project planner with

1647
02:21:47,140 --> 02:21:51,740
Collaborate Architects and Dwayne will be giving the bulk of the presentation, but I wanted

1648
02:21:51,740 --> 02:21:55,260
to say that we're grateful to be here and it's nice to meet you all in person finally.

1649
02:21:55,260 --> 02:22:03,380
I've been kept the prize of the project internally between Chris and Dwayne and Miguel and I'm excited to go over this analysis with you guys today.

1650
02:22:10,240 --> 02:22:18,060
So as Caesar said, we've met with your staff before and with Caesar to gather notes and gather information as you can see there.

1651
02:22:18,440 --> 02:22:24,240
The picture on there is Richard who took us through some of the maintenance and public works issues.

1652
02:22:26,220 --> 02:22:31,480
But what we want to do today, and we've also been collecting information, so what we want

1653
02:22:31,480 --> 02:22:38,100
to do today is just go through this and see if you all have any additional comments or

1654
02:22:38,100 --> 02:22:41,680
if you have additional information that we can incorporate into the presentation.

1655
02:22:44,750 --> 02:22:53,170
So as Caesar was saying, the next steps will be today we're meeting with y'all to go over

1656
02:22:53,170 --> 02:22:58,190
this to just again get your feedback but then from here at some point down the

1657
02:22:58,190 --> 02:23:04,910
line a few weeks we'll be having public meetings town hall work sessions that

1658
02:23:04,910 --> 02:23:10,030
get input from the public so that we can incorporate that to make sure that we've

1659
02:23:10,030 --> 02:23:15,130
got all the information input from the entire as much of the town and the city as

1660
02:23:15,130 --> 02:23:22,330
we can then eventually what that lead to is for us developing a report and you'll

1661
02:23:22,330 --> 02:23:27,530
be getting an interim drafts, drafts or drafts of the report so that you can see the progress.

1662
02:23:28,230 --> 02:23:34,150
And eventually there'll be a final draft report and then for y'all to review and incorporate

1663
02:23:34,150 --> 02:23:36,710
any comments and then we'll produce the final report.

1664
02:23:37,650 --> 02:23:39,310
And so that's where we are there.

1665
02:23:39,590 --> 02:23:41,530
So, as

1666
02:23:43,840 --> 02:23:50,180
you know, a lot of this, y'all already know but the, what we see here, the things

1667
02:23:50,180 --> 02:23:55,680
that really stood out to us this boardwalk obviously with all the entertainment that goes

1668
02:23:55,680 --> 02:24:02,900
with that lighthouse district which was basically places for people to come and for retail

1669
02:24:02,900 --> 02:24:12,000
and restaurants and then information that I was not aware of is that before we started

1670
02:24:12,000 --> 02:24:17,020
this is that Kima is the boating capital of Texas because of the size of the marine and the

1671
02:24:17,020 --> 02:24:18,520
number of recreational vehicles here.

1672
02:24:19,180 --> 02:24:22,200
The only one, all the things are listed on the right hand side.

1673
02:24:23,300 --> 02:24:26,900
You already know, the only one that I'm going to mention is the second one.

1674
02:24:28,120 --> 02:24:34,280
I brought my daughter down here several times, and it seems like that's the one thing she

1675
02:24:34,280 --> 02:24:37,060
always lets do when we come down here when she was younger.

1676
02:24:37,640 --> 02:24:44,320
So I've ridden that, the bullet several times, so I've gotten bumped around, gotten a few

1677
02:24:44,320 --> 02:24:45,300
bruises on that thing.

1678
02:24:46,940 --> 02:24:48,840
So, if you can go to the next slide.

1679
02:24:51,090 --> 02:24:57,410
So this is hard to read, but it's a conceptual idea for the city of Kima.

1680
02:24:57,410 --> 02:24:59,410
The thing that that...

1681
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:29,260
It jumps out at us, is that you've got State Highway 146 that runs down the middle, that right now could be a barrier to any sort of development, but what we're seeing it as an opportunity to develop into a linear park so that it connects all of these nodes, rather than there being all these nodes that are occurring within this city without any sort of connection. We see that as an opportunity to connect into that linear park that's running north and south along State Highway 145.

1682
02:25:31,320 --> 02:25:40,060
So we're talking about the Ford Walks and then as far south as the new proposed sounds.

1683
02:25:43,060 --> 02:25:47,080
So what we're going to go through today is a SWOT analysis.

1684
02:25:47,780 --> 02:25:53,400
I don't know if you'll have ever heard of that before, but since we had strengths, weaknesses,

1685
02:25:53,680 --> 02:25:58,160
opportunities and threats, we're going to go through what we see in each one of those

1686
02:25:58,160 --> 02:26:01,180
and we'd love to get y'all feedback on those.

1687
02:26:05,320 --> 02:26:07,460
So the first thing is the strengths.

1688
02:26:09,420 --> 02:26:11,000
Kima has a unique character.

1689
02:26:11,860 --> 02:26:14,520
It started out as a fishing tent and become a place

1690
02:26:14,520 --> 02:26:18,300
where there's a waterfront area

1691
02:26:19,610 --> 02:26:21,930
where there's plenty of entertainment.

1692
02:26:22,950 --> 02:26:27,050
And the other thing that we saw is that

1693
02:26:27,050 --> 02:26:29,750
it's part of a strategic regional location.

1694
02:26:30,290 --> 02:26:31,450
It's amongst the bunch of towns

1695
02:26:31,450 --> 02:26:37,890
they're growing and the connection with State Highway 146.

1696
02:26:40,330 --> 02:26:41,750
Under the economics

1697
02:26:41,750 --> 02:26:47,470
with the strengths we see is that you have a base that a few cities have and that

1698
02:26:47,470 --> 02:26:52,990
is the boardwalk, the economics associated with the entertainment and that

1699
02:26:52,990 --> 02:26:58,870
commercial development is very rare. As you can see from the information on the

1700
02:26:58,870 --> 02:27:05,230
right hand side there's a little over three to four million visits per year that's to

1701
02:27:05,230 --> 02:27:16,110
be compared to the San Antonio Riverwalk they have 13 million however the Alamo has

1702
02:27:16,110 --> 02:27:22,210
a little less than a million so y'all have quite a number of people that come to your boardwalk

1703
02:27:22,210 --> 02:27:30,510
every year. And then looking at actually the income per person or per household you can see it's

1704
02:27:30,510 --> 02:27:38,250
pretty high. It's 136 for the region which includes Seabrook, League City, Nassau Bay and San

1705
02:27:38,250 --> 02:27:46,790
Leon. So specifically in chemo it's $85,000 a little bit more but however that is a little bit of a

1706
02:27:46,790 --> 02:27:52,870
decreased than what it was previously. However, one of the things I wanted to compare to,

1707
02:27:52,970 --> 02:28:02,410
also the city of Houston, which is 65 dollars, so there is a fluency here that will help support

1708
02:28:02,410 --> 02:28:03,590
any sort of growth.

1709
02:28:05,710 --> 02:28:10,030
Then there is the top, the balance tax base that you have between the board

1710
02:28:10,030 --> 02:28:15,970
law, the entertainment, identity, and the waterfront property. There is income that you get from those

1711
02:28:15,970 --> 02:28:23,150
taxes, and there has been a growth in year-over-year job growth for the area as well.

1712
02:28:28,090 --> 02:28:37,450
As far as the weaknesses are concerned, there are some vulnerable abilities that we were

1713
02:28:37,450 --> 02:28:45,990
saying that you have a great base with this entertainment component, but it's also there's

1714
02:28:45,990 --> 02:28:52,110
the tendency to have too much reliance on that, so we needed to diversify.

1715
02:28:52,770 --> 02:29:00,770
One of the other things that could be best could be a good thing for the city, which

1716
02:29:00,770 --> 02:29:05,770
is not here now, it's extended state, that if there is opportunities for that, especially

1717
02:29:05,770 --> 02:29:14,410
as you get to the convention center here and being able to build around more of the tourism

1718
02:29:14,410 --> 02:29:20,410
some that could occur where you have conventions here, you need places for people to stay.

1719
02:29:21,490 --> 02:29:27,790
And then also there's limited civic amenities, for instance, there's no hospital, there's

1720
02:29:27,790 --> 02:29:29,490
no library, and there's no urgent care here.

1721
02:29:29,870 --> 02:29:36,510
So one of the things that you're relying on, the other cities around the area to take care

1722
02:29:36,510 --> 02:29:36,930
of that.

1723
02:29:38,030 --> 02:29:46,610
Then there also are some physical constraints where there's limited available land.

1724
02:29:47,090 --> 02:29:53,610
There's only eight parcels right now that are actively marketed for commercial development.

1725
02:29:54,290 --> 02:29:59,770
But also the other thing is parts of a physical constraint, but again it can be an opportunity

1726
02:30:00,530 --> 02:30:30,510
State Highway 146 that divides the two parts of the city. And then next, there is the infrastructure constraints. The water isn't under the control of the city, and it is at capacity right now. The other thing is that there is core internal connectivity that you can see from that score, that walking score there, that it's 35 over 54 hours.

1727
02:30:30,510 --> 02:30:38,070
which means that most of the areas that are run have to be done by a car, so which adds

1728
02:30:38,070 --> 02:30:41,610
to congestion of the city. Not only do you have the visitors which have people getting out.

1729
02:30:42,130 --> 02:30:48,110
So again, we look for opportunities, especially along that state highway 146,

1730
02:30:48,410 --> 02:30:53,930
opportunity to develop a linear park that people can connect from one place to the other safely,

1731
02:30:54,570 --> 02:30:56,850
or by walking.

1732
02:31:01,180 --> 02:31:07,300
Under the opportunities, we have to look, or again, as we talked about

1733
02:31:07,300 --> 02:31:15,640
as far as the economics are concerned, we have to look beyond the tourism that we've got to be able to provide,

1734
02:31:16,340 --> 02:31:21,600
you've got to be able to provide additional opportunities other than just what is on the board ball.

1735
02:31:23,240 --> 02:31:35,840
And then, again, diversify the economic sectors, the connectivity, again, looking for ways

1736
02:31:35,840 --> 02:31:39,180
of connecting the city, rather than it being a series of nodes being able to connect

1737
02:31:39,180 --> 02:31:42,740
the different parts so that you can move one to the other.

1738
02:31:43,040 --> 02:31:48,500
The other thing that we looked at was the regional collaboration that the more that connectivity

1739
02:31:48,500 --> 02:31:52,920
activity could occur, especially if you have a golf cart community, is there a way to

1740
02:31:52,920 --> 02:31:59,140
use golf carts to get to some of our cities as well so that, again, you're not getting

1741
02:31:59,780 --> 02:32:05,340
out on the road in your car, and then you can, if you can develop the series of pathways

1742
02:32:05,340 --> 02:32:10,300
and sidewalks that are safe, getting from one to the other, then you have less use of

1743
02:32:10,300 --> 02:32:11,460
or need for your cart.

1744
02:32:13,470 --> 02:32:18,170
The other thing is the drainage and the water,

1745
02:32:18,170 --> 02:32:25,890
those are things that are going to have to be developed in order to make chemo more

1746
02:32:25,890 --> 02:32:32,270
self-sufficient. The other thing that always comes as far as safety is concerned, you've

1747
02:32:32,270 --> 02:32:38,970
got to improve all the lighting, especially along the three way, so that people feel

1748
02:32:38,970 --> 02:32:44,150
safe here and also improve way finding so that it's very easy to get them around from one

1749
02:32:44,150 --> 02:32:45,050
place to the net.

1750
02:32:50,300 --> 02:32:54,520
Now, as far as the threats are concerned, obviously, there is the flood

1751
02:32:54,520 --> 02:33:00,660
low mobility, there is a number of properties that are at risk, they increase, they are

1752
02:33:00,660 --> 02:33:07,580
increasing. There's also, again, the transit congestion, not only from cars, people coming

1753
02:33:07,580 --> 02:33:12,380
into the town, but also within the town as well.

1754
02:33:14,600 --> 02:33:17,900
The other thing that what we want to emphasize

1755
02:33:17,900 --> 02:33:27,740
is that under housing there is affordable housing that needs to be taking hold here in town so that you can supply

1756
02:33:28,760 --> 02:33:36,580
affordable housing for workers so that it's not just high income housing that you provide.

1757
02:33:37,720 --> 02:33:40,720
And then again, there's no additional water capacity.

1758
02:33:44,760 --> 02:33:51,040
The other thing that I wanted to emphasize is that the water, the fire department and

1759
02:33:51,040 --> 02:33:56,060
EMS are not under the control of the city, those somehow or another, we need to get that

1760
02:33:56,060 --> 02:34:01,720
back into the control of the city so that, or at least have more input so that you're

1761
02:34:01,720 --> 02:34:04,480
not left without service.

1762
02:34:04,480 --> 02:34:05,420
So

1763
02:34:12,910 --> 02:34:25,210
that basically very quickly is our presentation on the SWOT analysis and so what we want to do is a series of questions with you so that we get your input.

1764
02:34:25,990 --> 02:34:30,010
The first question is does this SWOT reflect the chemo?

1765
02:34:30,090 --> 02:34:31,930
You know what's missing in

1766
02:34:37,500 --> 02:34:38,140
my live audience?

1767
02:34:38,340 --> 02:34:42,200
I don't forget because I don't forget once I get started.

1768
02:34:49,090 --> 02:34:57,450
The purpose of this next step now is to paraphrase what was just said, you know what

1769
02:34:57,450 --> 02:34:59,910
chema is, you know what chema isn't. The question is

1770
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:05,580
What do we want to be when we grow up? Okay, and that's the input that we need right now.

1771
02:35:07,610 --> 02:35:30,610
What are the areas of focus? To chime in on some things that were kind of mentioned and kind of to pick up on some things that we've done. Obviously there's been a big focus on tourism. There's a big focus on eco tourism, the parks, quality of life, talked about the linear park and things like that. This is where we now roll our sleeves up and say, hey, we want this.

1772
02:35:30,610 --> 02:35:37,890
this, hey, we want that, this is that component of time where you get to draw on a black sheet of paper,

1773
02:35:38,730 --> 02:35:46,350
what each one of you sees or would like Kema to be, where the searching out of plan and where we want to be in 2040.

1774
02:35:48,190 --> 02:35:50,830
What are the things that we want, what are the needs we want to go after?

1775
02:35:50,990 --> 02:35:54,790
Do we want to go chase a professional team out the realm?

1776
02:35:54,970 --> 02:36:00,110
But do we want to send ourselves up to be the place that has the first flying drones delivering

1777
02:36:00,110 --> 02:36:09,110
You know, groceries. Oh wait, we did that already. Where do we want to go next? That's what the objective is.

1778
02:36:23,660 --> 02:36:28,940
What do you want to be? What do you want to do? What do you want to do?

1779
02:36:33,660 --> 02:36:35,820
It would seem we would want water access.

1780
02:36:41,540 --> 02:36:42,100
Go for it.

1781
02:36:42,100 --> 02:36:48,160
Sit. Oh, well first of all, when you look at the SWAT reflect, you know, I think you nailed a lot of it, but one of the things

1782
02:36:48,160 --> 02:36:52,000
is I didn't see if there was a threat. Our biggest threat is really becoming irrelevant.

1783
02:36:52,820 --> 02:36:58,480
No water, no infrastructure development in downtown Kema, not a nice place to walk around

1784
02:36:58,480 --> 02:37:03,160
and hang out. So now you're looking at the competition. What about Webster? What about

1785
02:37:03,160 --> 02:37:08,000
what they're doing with the 12,500 seat shed? What about all of the attractions I'm making?

1786
02:37:08,140 --> 02:37:12,940
What about Seabrook? What about Galveston? I mean, if we don't take action to be what

1787
02:37:12,940 --> 02:37:16,780
we want to be, we're going to be irrelevant. And really, I think we all struggle with, as

1788
02:37:16,780 --> 02:37:19,480
We want to have the best quality of life for our citizens.

1789
02:37:19,880 --> 02:37:20,940
We also want to be a destination.

1790
02:37:21,380 --> 02:37:23,360
We need to balance that as best as possible.

1791
02:37:23,580 --> 02:37:27,640
But if you look at the investments that are being made in these areas, we're not tracking

1792
02:37:27,640 --> 02:37:28,140
any of that.

1793
02:37:28,640 --> 02:37:31,720
And so when you look at our downtown infrastructure, what do we want to be?

1794
02:37:31,840 --> 02:37:33,560
We just want to be a better version where we're at.

1795
02:37:33,780 --> 02:37:38,940
We'd like to be able to see people with baby carriages are not dodging traffic on 6th street.

1796
02:37:39,380 --> 02:37:44,380
We want to make sure we've got more event space, like the Gateway Park and maybe putting

1797
02:37:44,380 --> 02:37:45,340
a shed over 6th street.

1798
02:37:45,340 --> 02:37:52,260
We got to just, you know, when we, a couple of years ago, when I came on, we had a urban planning consultancy

1799
02:37:52,260 --> 02:37:52,720
came in.

1800
02:37:53,080 --> 02:37:56,300
The first thing I did was got an interview with her on the phone and she said, you know,

1801
02:37:56,360 --> 02:38:00,360
when you look at these towns, vintage shopping areas, you know, so many towns want to be

1802
02:38:00,360 --> 02:38:04,340
another round top or they want to be a Frederickburg or whatever, but they don't have anything

1803
02:38:04,340 --> 02:38:05,100
to anchor it.

1804
02:38:05,200 --> 02:38:06,840
Because you guys have so many anchors here.

1805
02:38:07,220 --> 02:38:08,340
You just got to make them better.

1806
02:38:08,840 --> 02:38:11,100
You know, the downtown lighthouse district is because that's a gem.

1807
02:38:11,100 --> 02:38:15,460
I mean, cities would kill for what you have, but it hasn't been invested in.

1808
02:38:15,760 --> 02:38:17,080
It's not a great place to hang out.

1809
02:38:17,620 --> 02:38:26,420
When you look at the boat ramp, you look at the opportunity for Gateway Park, great people spaces, great event spaces, great quality of life spaces, great ways to generate revenue.

1810
02:38:26,860 --> 02:38:30,060
We just got to invest in what we already have and make it better.

1811
02:38:30,180 --> 02:38:32,800
One of the things we talked about last night was the Kima Digital Project.

1812
02:38:33,380 --> 02:38:38,980
The consultant said you got 11 million people coming down, 146 every year, are you talking to them?

1813
02:38:38,980 --> 02:38:43,100
You tell them about your restaurants, you tell them about your shopping areas, you're making this destination.

1814
02:38:43,760 --> 02:39:00,260
So I think fundamentally we have what we need, we just need to invest in what we already have and just make, and still, and I think we can achieve that quality as a really great destination and be a place where they drive through Webster to get here and still have a great environment for our citizens.

1815
02:39:01,020 --> 02:39:08,720
So I mean, I think you're pretty much right on with what you did, but we got to realize that we can't take for granted what we have.

1816
02:39:08,720 --> 02:39:10,220
we need to invest in it.

1817
02:39:10,440 --> 02:39:13,130
One of the things,

1818
02:39:22,620 --> 02:39:23,340
yes, there is my

1819
02:39:33,960 --> 02:39:36,880
out there, to think about, are there a way to

1820
02:39:45,010 --> 02:39:47,230
work together so everybody benefits together?

1821
02:39:50,500 --> 02:39:56,080
I mean, that's a one way of what would be nice, if,

1822
02:39:59,530 --> 02:39:59,850
let's say,

1823
02:40:00,110 --> 02:40:29,830
City or wherever it is, but some where they're living in other town, make it easier for them to get to boardwalk so that they don't mind having coming over. Easily getting there and through the connections or pathways to to die in there for an evening and go home. So we're also looking for ways. How can we work together in this region to make everybody better? So do I, I love the area of a golf park community. And the

1824
02:40:29,830 --> 02:40:35,370
linear park piece and from the standpoint of we said 2040 if there were a

1825
02:40:35,370 --> 02:40:40,230
ferry service from Seabrook to Kima that went back and forth and there was a

1826
02:40:40,230 --> 02:40:44,870
collaboration in that way where you had some shared attraction if we're

1827
02:40:44,870 --> 02:40:50,470
saying we're pulling people to the area that could be an interesting concept of

1828
02:40:51,050 --> 02:40:57,210
working together or where there's more access in that format you know if we're

1829
02:40:57,210 --> 02:41:04,450
If we're spitballing out into the future, how to make that, I think from the standpoint

1830
02:41:04,450 --> 02:41:09,430
of the connectivity of the golf cart, there's a lot of things that we can do in shared

1831
02:41:09,430 --> 02:41:13,750
communities, whether it's clear like shores and chema, are different places, but you need

1832
02:41:13,750 --> 02:41:14,770
to have paths.

1833
02:41:15,750 --> 02:41:22,230
To get there, I think that's also an attractive aspect, and you mentioned extended stay where

1834
02:41:22,230 --> 02:41:27,890
people are coming here and that's part of their rental opportunity. I think that

1835
02:41:27,890 --> 02:41:34,530
makes it an opportunity. Tom talks about we have this downtown. When I travel a lot

1836
02:41:34,530 --> 02:41:40,370
and one of the things I enjoy what I'm in different places is when it has a

1837
02:41:40,370 --> 02:41:47,290
high-end look that is cohesive and there's continuity and that does require

1838
02:41:47,290 --> 02:41:53,350
It requires business owners investing and it requires people who hold land and property

1839
02:41:53,350 --> 02:41:57,530
wanting to do improvement, applies to just letting it be.

1840
02:41:59,370 --> 02:42:04,930
Then I see, I mean, I agree with you and I see a problem because I'm from Galveston.

1841
02:42:05,570 --> 02:42:12,610
And for the longest while, we hear how perfect Corpus was and then Galveston was just a tourist trap.

1842
02:42:13,590 --> 02:42:20,150
I felt resentful toward that, and I see where the old Jack Tarr used to be.

1843
02:42:20,910 --> 02:42:27,410
They have a hotel, a restaurant area, and they got an airplane that looked like it crashed through.

1844
02:42:28,470 --> 02:42:35,570
I just, I want to say, yeah, we need to have the right spin, the right image, and develop that image.

1845
02:42:37,890 --> 02:42:41,150
We don't need a plane crashing through the lighthouse, so to speak.

1846
02:42:41,730 --> 02:42:47,390
But we need something to bring them here, like the water park that I've been hearing about,

1847
02:42:48,010 --> 02:42:54,290
that's a positive thing. I just think that, you know, something being family oriented,

1848
02:42:54,890 --> 02:43:00,650
something being the taste of the coast, so to speak, and the feel of the coast, the coast

1849
02:43:00,650 --> 02:43:06,090
spirit, I guess you call it. I think that's what we should look toward. And, you know, the

1850
02:43:06,090 --> 02:43:08,750
The golf court community, that makes a lot of sense.

1851
02:43:11,370 --> 02:43:13,010
Well, tell me to get out and miss that.

1852
02:43:13,430 --> 02:43:14,630
I wasn't quite following.

1853
02:43:14,790 --> 02:43:15,950
You said you were from Galveston

1854
02:43:16,710 --> 02:43:18,890
and you resented something.

1855
02:43:19,190 --> 02:43:23,590
I was then being called a tourist trap in Galveston.

1856
02:43:23,690 --> 02:43:26,290
Yes, the Galveston way I heard that

1857
02:43:26,290 --> 02:43:30,110
how perfect corpus was, better they were.

1858
02:43:31,190 --> 02:43:35,750
And cities like Galveston were considered tourist traps.

1859
02:43:36,510 --> 02:43:40,150
So, what was the difference between Corpus and Galveston?

1860
02:43:40,290 --> 02:43:44,430
Why did they say it was a tourist trap in Galveston and it wasn't in Corpus?

1861
02:43:45,090 --> 02:43:50,470
Well, one of the parking on the boulevard has always been a pain on the backside, too.

1862
02:43:52,970 --> 02:43:58,750
I remember this so distinctly because there was a share-run station on the corner of 61st

1863
02:43:58,750 --> 02:44:06,170
a Stewart. One guy came pushing past everybody, trying to pay for gas, and he was griping

1864
02:44:06,170 --> 02:44:13,050
about. He had to use the woman's restroom to go to the vet, to his business. And the

1865
02:44:13,050 --> 02:44:18,970
woman by the counter said, if it wasn't for your tourists coming in, we, you and Sepigate,

1866
02:44:19,310 --> 02:44:26,450
beer can down the toilet, you wouldn't have to be using it. And I'm thinking like, that's

1867
02:44:26,450 --> 02:44:27,390
but they think about us.

1868
02:44:27,750 --> 02:44:29,350
They're tourists, they can come and go.

1869
02:44:29,950 --> 02:44:33,490
I used to joke about, on the causeway,

1870
02:44:34,310 --> 02:44:37,150
get to the top of it, there's one speed,

1871
02:44:37,290 --> 02:44:41,770
so this is 55 or 50 and then 55 or 50 going up.

1872
02:44:42,230 --> 02:44:44,050
Going in 55, coming out 50.

1873
02:44:44,970 --> 02:44:46,530
I mean, the reverse, I'm sorry.

1874
02:44:47,290 --> 02:44:49,510
It's so no other word to say, come on in and

1875
02:44:49,510 --> 02:44:50,890
enjoy yourself and get the hell out of town.

1876
02:44:52,930 --> 02:44:55,450
So I may be paraphrasing this wrong,

1877
02:44:55,450 --> 02:44:58,810
but it sounds like you don't like to be used to the views in the current way.

1878
02:45:02,600 --> 02:45:04,100
So what do you think,

1879
02:45:06,360 --> 02:45:26,280
I see what you're saying, to part of it is respect from the people who come here to bed. That's part of it. I hear what you're saying about that. So what is it that will help them respect you as well as being respected? How do you think that, how does that work out there?

1880
02:45:26,280 --> 02:45:30,640
Basically, I have a friend who's a very drastic

1881
02:45:30,640 --> 02:45:32,820
different opinion of mine, blackly.

1882
02:45:33,400 --> 02:45:36,880
I said, OK, if you want to talk about politics issues,

1883
02:45:37,240 --> 02:45:39,960
I said, you respect me, and I'll respect you

1884
02:45:39,960 --> 02:45:41,840
when you're flooded, you're spoiling your point of view.

1885
02:45:42,580 --> 02:45:44,740
I said, I just want, if you want to have a good conversation,

1886
02:45:45,460 --> 02:45:46,180
respect each other.

1887
02:45:47,360 --> 02:45:48,180
You stop talking.

1888
02:45:50,160 --> 02:45:54,840
But the point is, we need better communication with people

1889
02:45:54,840 --> 02:46:01,080
We need to put a prop, I think we need to put a show with a proper spin on what he was all about.

1890
02:46:03,410 --> 02:46:09,410
But I'm thinking that because my perfect life is from folks who are seaside.

1891
02:46:10,370 --> 02:46:14,510
I've discussed folks who are seaside for a couple of decades now and it's coming around.

1892
02:46:15,510 --> 02:46:16,950
He's actually very correct.

1893
02:46:16,950 --> 02:46:23,730
If you first infride themselves and not being this tourist destination for all, you know the beaches there.

1894
02:46:24,490 --> 02:46:26,010
You know the hotels of the beach.

1895
02:46:26,690 --> 02:46:30,390
There was no hotels of the beach, they weren't crowded.

1896
02:46:31,010 --> 02:46:32,370
There was a nice place to go.

1897
02:46:32,670 --> 02:46:34,290
There's everything convention centers.

1898
02:46:34,610 --> 02:46:37,130
There was local restaurants, all these types of things.

1899
02:46:37,470 --> 02:46:41,550
And as soon as they started over commercializing it.

1900
02:46:41,910 --> 02:46:42,810
But you know the hotels.

1901
02:46:43,690 --> 02:46:52,430
as close to the water as it can get, you know, all of that feeling of space, that feeling of being special is just kind of disappearing.

1902
02:46:53,170 --> 02:46:55,030
It's more of a church right now than else.

1903
02:46:55,770 --> 02:46:56,690
Which is strange.

1904
02:46:58,690 --> 02:47:02,650
I think that's maybe what Robson is just a little balanced.

1905
02:47:02,990 --> 02:47:10,730
Obviously, I mean, Robson is a little balanced in terms of, you know, are we focusing full on the spiritual realm

1906
02:47:10,730 --> 02:47:16,870
which is not about idea, most part, but also keeping it where we're not using it.

1907
02:47:17,110 --> 02:47:24,790
I like the text on there, it's said, the most capital text that you've discussed and aimed for issues.

1908
02:47:25,610 --> 02:47:33,330
I like stuff like that. I think we have, it's like you say, we have a lot of stuff that people would love to have

1909
02:47:34,170 --> 02:47:39,250
And we could use that as an aim, which push that is like a whether that's what that's,

1910
02:47:39,410 --> 02:47:44,530
that's, yeah, one they're going to talk about, like, our question is we should,

1911
02:47:47,010 --> 02:47:50,690
it's advising people, okay, during the next round, so around this area, you're talking about

1912
02:47:50,690 --> 02:47:53,690
left-ster, he's a hybrid to act, that's where it's going to go.

1913
02:47:54,470 --> 02:48:00,370
In this area, though, there's no west pine trees, there's no rest-straw spots,

1914
02:48:00,370 --> 02:48:03,750
You know, highest restaurant time spots on Washington,

1915
02:48:04,190 --> 02:48:04,670
things like that.

1916
02:48:04,790 --> 02:48:07,370
Around this area, that could easily be us

1917
02:48:07,370 --> 02:48:10,730
because we have everyday things to add to that.

1918
02:48:11,590 --> 02:48:14,230
If we have a destination for everybody to come,

1919
02:48:14,430 --> 02:48:17,530
let's talk about, I think that's what it's

1920
02:48:17,530 --> 02:48:19,250
just, you know, very out of the basin.

1921
02:48:20,270 --> 02:48:22,050
There's bars, there's restaurants,

1922
02:48:22,730 --> 02:48:24,770
and the boardwalk, obviously, right around the end.

1923
02:48:24,850 --> 02:48:25,670
It's just like a blessing.

1924
02:48:26,390 --> 02:48:27,890
I was at the summer talking to this,

1925
02:48:29,430 --> 02:48:37,790
and that's really what they did was, essentially, they figured out that, okay, well, they will just kind of use this area for me.

1926
02:48:37,970 --> 02:48:41,590
It was museum, so talk about museums. They said that was like the main thing they produced on.

1927
02:48:41,750 --> 02:48:45,250
They became known as the museum area of that part of the policy.

1928
02:48:45,990 --> 02:48:54,190
All of a sudden, the bigger business started to move from, you know, the casino area on the beach to that area

1929
02:48:54,190 --> 02:49:01,450
because there was a ton of good traffic, but it was a day and not, which is different in this business especially.

1930
02:49:02,290 --> 02:49:08,090
And so, you know, they, if they should center in which they, that's where it's headed back in 13 years ago,

1931
02:49:08,250 --> 02:49:09,910
because it blew up this up.

1932
02:49:11,730 --> 02:49:17,650
And I said, at least, I really like the model they use, and it almost feels like being here.

1933
02:49:19,500 --> 02:49:20,720
That's how it was successful.

1934
02:49:35,180 --> 02:49:41,360
So do I are you wanting us to tell you what we don't want are you wanting us to talk

1935
02:49:41,360 --> 02:49:48,760
about a vision 14 years from now into 40 so that you can pry or I think you know you

1936
02:49:48,760 --> 02:49:51,480
You brought up a really good point on Galveston. It's almost a tale of two cities.

1937
02:49:51,800 --> 02:49:54,100
My daughter lives on 10th and C-Wall, right?

1938
02:49:54,400 --> 02:49:59,880
And if you want touristy attractions, they're right there, right, low-end, you know, restaurants, you know.

1939
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:29,540
I shouldn't say low one, but not high and stuff. But then we went, the other side of the island went to the VA area, which is a new development in Galveston. And I mean, they've invested, I mean, the shops are great, the retail environment is great, so they have better retailers. So if we're looking at, hey, we want to bring in better retailers, better restaurants, higher-end retail, make this more of a destination, then we've got to invest in the infrastructure because otherwise it looks like sea wall. We have a choice. The VA or sea wall are somewhere in between. But it's really a question of, are we prepared to make the investment?

1940
02:50:31,800 --> 02:50:40,000
It's been a lot of talk about driving revenues and tourism and some other quality of

1941
02:50:40,000 --> 02:50:40,420
life stuff.

1942
02:50:40,820 --> 02:50:44,680
One thing that was in your analysis was talking about services that aren't owned by the

1943
02:50:44,680 --> 02:50:51,920
taxpayer, specifically taxpayers in the settlements of Kima, directly under the control of kind

1944
02:50:51,920 --> 02:50:54,160
of city hall and this body and the staff.

1945
02:50:55,460 --> 02:50:58,280
People in this town don't realize how fragile their fire department is.

1946
02:50:58,280 --> 02:51:05,960
You kind of identified that not only from a no water standpoint, but from you know

1947
02:51:05,960 --> 02:51:14,400
I consider fire apparatuses and fire trucks infrastructure as well. I mean it's part of it's part of the total package and mechanism of safety and quality of life

1948
02:51:15,660 --> 02:51:21,680
There are a lot of residents in this town that I can I can guarantee you don't understand how closely are not having a fire truck

1949
02:51:23,980 --> 02:51:27,720
You're any given day in this town, if there's a wreck on 146 and your house catches on fire,

1950
02:51:27,720 --> 02:51:32,020
will you sadly need to pray that your house catches on fire first because that fire truck's

1951
02:51:32,020 --> 02:51:34,200
not coming because there's only one of them.

1952
02:51:34,240 --> 02:51:41,480
And, you know, it's a sad place to be in and it is what it is, historically how we got

1953
02:51:41,480 --> 02:51:47,000
here, whatever, you know, it needs to be addressed in the future.

1954
02:51:47,460 --> 02:51:48,780
I mean, there's only one ambulance in the town.

1955
02:51:48,780 --> 02:51:51,640
If that ambulance is busy, Seabrook doesn't come over the British.

1956
02:51:52,280 --> 02:51:53,280
League City is not coming.

1957
02:51:53,840 --> 02:51:55,980
The next ambulance is in San Leon and Baycliffe.

1958
02:51:56,040 --> 02:51:57,180
That's the next out ambulance.

1959
02:51:57,920 --> 02:52:01,100
And that's the busiest ambulance in Galveston County's coverage area.

1960
02:52:01,300 --> 02:52:04,800
So it is often not available, and eventually Seabrook will show up.

1961
02:52:05,320 --> 02:52:07,880
Eventually, League City will show up if it's critical enough.

1962
02:52:10,280 --> 02:52:16,490
But, you know, a family in this town is 1-9-1-1 call away from not getting help unless it's

1963
02:52:16,490 --> 02:52:21,650
the police department, and I don't think we emphasize that enough, and it's not to

1964
02:52:21,650 --> 02:52:24,970
scare people, it's just the reality of what it is.

1965
02:52:26,310 --> 02:52:30,350
It has not happened yet, but like last week, I mean, we have two fire trucks that can respond

1966
02:52:30,350 --> 02:52:32,010
to fires.

1967
02:52:33,430 --> 02:52:42,130
One of them is on the last third of its 20-year life run, the latter truck is much more

1968
02:52:42,130 --> 02:52:48,730
life left in it. But the ladder truck runs great. The other truck has engine problems.

1969
02:52:49,090 --> 02:52:54,270
It's going in and out of the shop. We also have a lot of motor vehicle accidents because

1970
02:52:54,270 --> 02:53:00,050
we have nothing but state roads in this town that people haul up and down. We've had trucks

1971
02:53:00,050 --> 02:53:05,050
get hit. We don't have a blocker type truck like our trucks that the apparatus is that we

1972
02:53:05,050 --> 02:53:10,410
have are it. We have to use the ladder to block traffic because it's the only thing we got.

1973
02:53:11,170 --> 02:53:17,610
And if it gets hit it's out and you can look at the news and go on the internet and see how long it takes to get a fire truck prepared

1974
02:53:18,170 --> 02:53:24,690
You know how long it takes to get a fire truck replaced much less the price is almost tripped you know since pre-COVID

1975
02:53:26,130 --> 02:53:29,750
And you know it's kind of under the control of the water board and

1976
02:53:30,350 --> 02:53:33,450
Two days ago they pissed away a three hundred thousand dollar grant to get one

1977
02:53:34,070 --> 02:53:36,470
While one of the trucks is in the shop and you said yeah

1978
02:53:36,470 --> 02:53:45,090
It's good. I think what I'm the bird that I think I'm hearing from you and

1979
02:53:45,090 --> 02:53:49,670
Craig me from wrong but by 2040 it would be good if chemo were self-sufficient.

1980
02:53:50,390 --> 02:53:56,610
Yes. So that's something that we need to work toward in some of the thinking

1981
02:53:56,610 --> 02:54:02,250
that we're doing, the planning that we're doing is self-sufficiency. I will just caution.

1982
02:54:02,730 --> 02:54:11,670
I mean obviously this is open forum in whatever the case is but I will caution that that may be turned into a political football and

1983
02:54:13,940 --> 02:54:14,500
I'll just be

1984
02:54:14,500 --> 02:54:20,460
Outright and say that not that I agree or disagree with that I'm just letting everybody know so we understand that if that's something that we're setting on as a

1985
02:54:20,460 --> 02:54:31,480
Vision it comes with being a target expect the arrows to start flying and it's part of the game of what we play right that's why we hold the seats in

1986
02:54:31,480 --> 02:54:34,880
position that we do, but just keep that in mind as we're doing that not to say

1987
02:54:34,880 --> 02:54:39,060
that it's wrong. I mean it's something that ultimately the voters would have

1988
02:54:39,060 --> 02:54:42,840
to decide but right now they don't have any information on it they don't

1989
02:54:42,840 --> 02:54:48,460
they don't know that there's an issue and you know it's they can decide how

1990
02:54:48,460 --> 02:54:54,200
political they want to make it you know whatever but you know they need to

1991
02:54:54,200 --> 02:54:57,880
understand that they expect they expect their tax dollars to deliver

1992
02:54:57,880 --> 02:54:59,960
services and there is a portion of

1993
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:18,780
We know that we can't control as a city council that is going to impact somebody's livelihood, their home, their investment, their family. You know, it's okay. But those people think we control it. But what you're talking about is very important is that's what y'all are responsible for is life safety.

1994
02:55:30,000 --> 02:55:31,560
I think it's a good parish because of that.

1995
02:55:32,600 --> 02:55:34,220
Councilman Thornton had a comment to me.

1996
02:55:34,800 --> 02:55:39,220
Just briefly, the emergency service board,

1997
02:55:39,640 --> 02:55:41,040
we actually have two members,

1998
02:55:41,520 --> 02:55:45,500
the court members are all two members of this council on that board.

1999
02:55:46,200 --> 02:55:52,000
And it may be just a starting point, not a solution,

2000
02:55:52,000 --> 02:55:58,020
but a starting point of educating not only the council and the public.

2001
02:55:58,020 --> 02:56:03,120
we often have speakers come in to City Council and that would be I think an

2002
02:56:03,120 --> 02:56:09,340
opportunity to do so on most types of things. And what I wanted to hope that we

2003
02:56:09,340 --> 02:56:16,740
would add to because your analysis is the ecotourism part because it has to be

2004
02:56:16,740 --> 02:56:25,140
something we can't do everything. So picking a priority and I feel the

2005
02:56:25,140 --> 02:56:34,100
The ecotourism is something that's more accessible, more close to what we can control.

2006
02:56:35,240 --> 02:56:36,420
And that's all I wanted to say.

2007
02:56:36,700 --> 02:56:39,880
Can you tell me what your definition of ecotourism is?

2008
02:56:39,960 --> 02:56:44,900
I feel like there's broad definitions across different jurisdictions.

2009
02:56:45,440 --> 02:56:46,260
But what is it for you?

2010
02:56:46,840 --> 02:56:51,040
My definition of ecotourism is not what the city so will.

2011
02:56:51,040 --> 02:56:55,980
I'll defer to the City Administrator on what his vision

2012
02:56:55,980 --> 02:57:00,560
having come from a Parks and Recreation background

2013
02:57:01,520 --> 02:57:05,920
because it's different from my personal definition.

2014
02:57:06,400 --> 02:57:08,380
But it definitely was something that was brought up

2015
02:57:08,380 --> 02:57:12,140
even earlier in our day of this retreat.

2016
02:57:15,030 --> 02:57:16,470
Do you want my definition to hers?

2017
02:57:16,630 --> 02:57:16,770
Yes.

2018
02:57:17,430 --> 02:57:17,770
Would you mind?

2019
02:57:18,910 --> 02:57:21,990
Well, I'll relay it to the assets that we have.

2020
02:57:23,550 --> 02:57:29,370
So, eco-tursum can mean a lot of different things, but we have a 57 acre nature facility

2021
02:57:29,840 --> 02:57:31,830
that is being developed.

2022
02:57:32,410 --> 02:57:37,830
We have the guest nurse center that is available right down the street that Galveston Bay Foundation

2023
02:57:37,830 --> 02:57:44,010
calls its home right here in Kema, eventually the walkability of the linear park leading to

2024
02:57:44,010 --> 02:57:44,790
the bolt ramp.

2025
02:57:45,450 --> 02:57:50,730
I think I'll call that a T, if you look at that on a map, that T would be our eco-tursum

2026
02:57:50,730 --> 02:57:54,930
sector, but also connectivity to other parcels in different areas.

2027
02:57:55,090 --> 02:57:56,090
Link City has some pockets.

2028
02:57:56,590 --> 02:57:59,590
There's obviously a lot of fishing and voting available here.

2029
02:58:00,690 --> 02:58:05,610
But as you connect that even going down to Armon Bayou, we can serve as that focal point

2030
02:58:05,610 --> 02:58:12,450
of that nature eco-tourism connectivity point, if you will, for the entire region.

2031
02:58:12,730 --> 02:58:16,090
Not to take away from the things that are in Galveston or in Hitchcock or in different places,

2032
02:58:16,090 --> 02:58:21,410
but any of the sectors like over the mark with their park space and stuff that they have.

2033
02:58:22,010 --> 02:58:26,370
But I think together we can market that a little bit better, but going back to what you said,

2034
02:58:26,490 --> 02:58:30,290
like a regional approach towards doing that towards eco-terrorism could be fine. It's funny,

2035
02:58:30,390 --> 02:58:34,050
because before you got here, we kind of had a conversation about that, about destination marketing

2036
02:58:34,050 --> 02:58:42,990
organization, or some visitors bureau of some sort. But that's my definition based on the assets

2037
02:58:42,990 --> 02:58:48,070
that we own. I mean we can go into much greater depth if we go into snorkeling and different

2038
02:58:48,070 --> 02:58:50,570
things like that and scuba diving and things of that nature.

2039
02:58:50,650 --> 02:58:56,450
Faintaining access to the water for the public and about what if you see, I like any

2040
02:58:56,450 --> 02:59:05,560
way here. I like my architectural mind. You'll crazy right now. I'm thinking, can you try

2041
02:59:05,560 --> 02:59:11,220
to capture boats that are obviously coming through their lake all the way out to the bay.

2042
02:59:12,660 --> 02:59:16,540
I'm just making this up now, it would drive in for sale loads.

2043
02:59:16,900 --> 02:59:21,480
Yeah, no, and that's kind of the, no, it's not crazy.

2044
02:59:21,580 --> 02:59:23,020
I think that's what makes this unique, right?

2045
02:59:23,260 --> 02:59:25,620
I mean, I think we all grew up on the idea of drive-ins,

2046
02:59:25,720 --> 02:59:28,240
but how would it be to have an event where we did drive-ins with boats?

2047
02:59:29,340 --> 02:59:32,480
And again, this is the type of thing that we want to try to venture off

2048
02:59:32,480 --> 02:59:35,200
and be different and partake in, so I appreciate you bringing that up.

2049
02:59:36,140 --> 02:59:40,340
For the sake of the fact that we've got about 75 minutes or so left,

2050
02:59:40,340 --> 02:59:41,980
a little bit less than that.

2051
02:59:42,560 --> 02:59:43,880
I do want to focus on these.

2052
02:59:44,140 --> 02:59:44,840
Is this the last slide?

2053
02:59:45,400 --> 02:59:45,540
Yes.

2054
02:59:45,780 --> 02:59:45,960
Okay.

2055
02:59:46,540 --> 02:59:53,480
I want to focus on these four questions because if we can break this down into kind of 15-minute clusters,

2056
02:59:53,480 --> 02:59:58,580
if you will, what are we missing in this slot?

2057
02:59:58,580 --> 02:59:58,680
Thank you very much.

2058
03:00:00,500 --> 03:00:30,480
What have we not mentioned? I'll mention a couple things that we didn't say, because a lot of it is the KCDC component. What was mentioned, but wasn't completed in my opinion, and what I have set up here to try to accomplish is zero taxes to our residents, and you just mentioned we have eight parcels of land left, and to create what I need to be done, I've got to generate $94 million in sales, almost eight parcels of land. So I got to re-duplicate the boardwalk in Walmart, again, to accomplish that.

2059
03:00:30,480 --> 03:00:38,200
So we're down to very limited properties and to get to a zero property tax as you're talking about and I'm only figuring one and a half percent

2060
03:00:38,200 --> 03:00:46,380
A half percent going to KCDC but my mind it is all KCDC at that point and that becomes rodent maintenance and takes care of the storms

2061
03:00:46,380 --> 03:00:57,640
Issue with the rodent maintenance part of it. So it's kind of my ultimate goal. It was my goal for 2032, 2031 originally 2032 now but not having water

2062
03:01:01,460 --> 03:01:07,080
I do want to just comment on that specific thing because obviously the component of what

2063
03:01:07,080 --> 03:01:11,460
KCDC does, and like I said last night, it was really refreshing to have that meeting

2064
03:01:11,460 --> 03:01:16,060
last night with everybody, and to not only sit down and go over the CIP priorities, whether

2065
03:01:16,060 --> 03:01:19,560
the ones that were selected, or we're going to try to figure out a way to do it, and we

2066
03:01:19,560 --> 03:01:25,420
have four of the members here, but also to add a responsibility to each one of those

2067
03:01:25,420 --> 03:01:29,960
by a person, because what we called it last night was identifying a champion for each one of them.

2068
03:01:30,500 --> 03:01:33,780
Which is important to me, because I think it gives ownership to that.

2069
03:01:33,960 --> 03:01:42,480
And so I wanted to comment that, I also wanted to comment on the fact that maybe there's something different, right?

2070
03:01:43,540 --> 03:01:44,700
What is it we're not doing?

2071
03:01:44,860 --> 03:01:48,120
So some of the things that we've encountered so far,

2072
03:01:49,540 --> 03:01:54,720
besides the ones that the guest or center just put in, we don't have a single EV station in the city,

2073
03:01:54,720 --> 03:01:56,820
except for those that they're in the process of putting in.

2074
03:01:57,360 --> 03:02:04,320
And I know that in the Houston area, the South Texas area, that EVs are kind of taboo and so forth, but there isn't that.

2075
03:02:05,000 --> 03:02:05,340
We signed-

2076
03:02:05,340 --> 03:02:07,760
The President's asked me about that, but she said Walmart was-

2077
03:02:08,200 --> 03:02:09,360
Walmart's trying to implement it.

2078
03:02:09,440 --> 03:02:11,670
We're working on this in the permitting process to see if-

2079
03:02:12,580 --> 03:02:15,700
There's nothing on line showing the Galson Bay as theirs.

2080
03:02:16,300 --> 03:02:17,580
I don't know if they're open for the public, but-

2081
03:02:17,580 --> 03:02:18,640
I don't think they're active.

2082
03:02:18,960 --> 03:02:20,900
Because neither one of them were aware that they were there.

2083
03:02:21,100 --> 03:02:24,040
I will follow up with their leadership, but I think that they're there.

2084
03:02:24,040 --> 03:02:25,440
but I don't think that they're at pictures.

2085
03:02:26,300 --> 03:02:28,080
Yeah, there's publicize because we do have people

2086
03:02:28,080 --> 03:02:29,480
with EVs in town that are asking.

2087
03:02:32,560 --> 03:02:34,720
But, I did tell them about the office in Maryland, so.

2088
03:02:35,220 --> 03:02:36,100
You said there's two.

2089
03:02:36,400 --> 03:02:37,300
There's two at the Kippur.

2090
03:02:37,620 --> 03:02:38,260
Two at the Kippur.

2091
03:02:38,360 --> 03:02:38,860
Okay, great.

2092
03:02:39,040 --> 03:02:40,040
Well, thank you for that.

2093
03:02:40,160 --> 03:02:41,300
Well, I was inside the gate.

2094
03:02:41,480 --> 03:02:43,280
Inside the gate, so they're not public, but yes.

2095
03:02:44,860 --> 03:02:47,400
But along those lines, right, we've talked about

2096
03:02:47,400 --> 03:02:48,380
some of the things that we were able to do.

2097
03:02:48,780 --> 03:02:51,540
We went out and got Soul Smart certified.

2098
03:02:51,540 --> 03:02:57,220
The idea with that is to start incorporating some type of solar energy to try to incorporate

2099
03:02:57,220 --> 03:03:01,720
that into our own fleet of EVs, maybe so we can save money on gas and or power in the

2100
03:03:01,720 --> 03:03:02,500
future with solar.

2101
03:03:03,960 --> 03:03:08,160
But also providing solar co-ops to our residents, there's more than one way to provide our

2102
03:03:08,160 --> 03:03:10,700
residents some type of help.

2103
03:03:13,760 --> 03:03:17,180
So if we're able to do that through a co-op program, that's what that program is for,

2104
03:03:20,280 --> 03:03:29,100
We've exploited that probably to the full extent with all these trees that we've got donated several hundred thousand dollars worth of trees that have been planted or in the process of being planted as we speak.

2105
03:03:30,760 --> 03:03:41,980
Our tourism friendly, being that we were a tourist location, not having had that certification with a challenge that we were given by this council shortly after like my arrival.

2106
03:03:41,980 --> 03:03:46,920
and thankfully we've got that but there's more to come, I mean we're going after music friendly,

2107
03:03:47,160 --> 03:03:51,060
digital media friendly, film friendly, and something that near and dear to our hearts,

2108
03:03:52,700 --> 03:03:57,980
we came up with the idea of going to be century friendly, and we took that to the

2109
03:03:57,980 --> 03:04:02,160
governor's office and it's a pilot program that we're working on and I went up there and asked the

2110
03:04:02,160 --> 03:04:06,880
question I said why are we involved in all these other friendlies but there's nothing for autism

2111
03:04:06,880 --> 03:04:08,800
or PTSD or anything like that.

2112
03:04:08,920 --> 03:04:11,140
And so they said, that's a great idea.

2113
03:04:11,300 --> 03:04:12,800
Like, well, what have you done about that?

2114
03:04:12,860 --> 03:04:15,280
I was like, well, we're doing mandatory training for our police officers.

2115
03:04:15,640 --> 03:04:18,980
And we worked with a boardwalk on some quiet days,

2116
03:04:19,200 --> 03:04:22,420
or situation where they open up a little bit earlier

2117
03:04:22,420 --> 03:04:25,040
and don't have the music, you don't have all the lights and stuff on.

2118
03:04:25,200 --> 03:04:27,380
And some of the restaurants are doing some of this neat stuff.

2119
03:04:27,520 --> 03:04:28,680
And like, you know what, that sounds amazing.

2120
03:04:29,660 --> 03:04:30,040
Great job.

2121
03:04:30,480 --> 03:04:32,100
Now you're going to be in charge of this task force.

2122
03:04:32,340 --> 03:04:34,300
So, careful what you wish for.

2123
03:04:34,440 --> 03:04:36,180
But we have been, and you guys have supported that.

2124
03:04:36,180 --> 03:04:41,300
And now we're at the next phase, there's bills going into this next session.

2125
03:04:41,460 --> 03:04:46,300
We're trying to make it mandatory for the state to have mandatory autism or

2126
03:04:46,300 --> 03:04:49,740
sensory training for the police officers.

2127
03:04:51,000 --> 03:04:55,720
You're being part of change that is going to be replicated throughout the entire state and

2128
03:04:55,720 --> 03:04:56,720
possibly the nation.

2129
03:04:57,360 --> 03:04:59,120
Little Kema is doing that.

2130
03:04:59,120 --> 03:04:59,900
And...

2131
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:29,980
So as we do that, that's what I'm asking. What are we missing? We mentioned water, we mentioned, you know, conservation. Maybe it's we need to have a robust, more robust recycling program. I've had a couple of folks ask about recycling. We've talked about emergency management. What can we do that's different? I've heard about our kids don't have anywhere to go. Again, we have parks, but what other things can we do that are

2132
03:05:29,980 --> 03:05:37,540
going to bring that together. So what is missing? You guys have visited different towns,

2133
03:05:37,680 --> 03:05:41,400
different cities. One that we haven't touched on very much that we've kind of started doing,

2134
03:05:41,400 --> 03:05:47,540
but haven't owned completely is the arts. You know, we've got a mural park. Maybe it's exposing

2135
03:05:47,540 --> 03:05:56,300
the arts more. Maybe it's it's we're going to become a full, you know, a tree city USA and we're

2136
03:05:56,300 --> 03:05:57,580
where we're going to have trees everywhere you go.

2137
03:05:57,880 --> 03:05:59,880
And maybe what is it going to be

2138
03:05:59,880 --> 03:06:01,120
that's going to be that next thing?

2139
03:06:01,980 --> 03:06:03,600
Or what are we missing and what would we like?

2140
03:06:03,680 --> 03:06:06,060
That sort of thing, we kind of mentioned it a little bit

2141
03:06:06,060 --> 03:06:08,940
on that one slide, but that's it would be a great thing

2142
03:06:08,940 --> 03:06:11,440
on that linear park to have some of that artwork,

2143
03:06:11,800 --> 03:06:13,680
at least some of it displayed so that people,

2144
03:06:13,840 --> 03:06:17,120
as they pass by, can see it,

2145
03:06:17,320 --> 03:06:20,340
and then it just invigorates the city itself.

2146
03:06:21,560 --> 03:06:24,420
We actually have some of those concepts,

2147
03:06:24,420 --> 03:06:34,560
And I believe one of the KCDC members brought a presentation where along 146, that was

2148
03:06:34,560 --> 03:06:35,820
part of it.

2149
03:06:36,080 --> 03:06:43,900
And believe it or not, and the American correctman, if I'm incorrect in this, there is architectural

2150
03:06:43,900 --> 03:06:53,640
concept drawing for connecting the waterways that ferry, that bridge.

2151
03:06:56,900 --> 03:07:07,520
I just don't think much has been done on that late lead hearing was serving on that board but it's just that it's there so they don't have to start if it's

2152
03:07:07,520 --> 03:07:17,660
continued they don't have to start from 0 if they can find anything that might have come down to funding I don't know where that is but I'm

2153
03:07:17,660 --> 03:07:18,800
But I don't remember seeing them.

2154
03:07:24,960 --> 03:07:26,640
So there's.

2155
03:07:26,940 --> 03:07:27,580
Okay.

2156
03:07:31,390 --> 03:07:31,950
So.

2157
03:07:33,010 --> 03:07:34,030
Precinct to.

2158
03:07:35,030 --> 03:07:36,290
No, we have no sign.

2159
03:07:37,150 --> 03:07:47,830
Precinct to an Adrian Garcia's office has agreed to fund the dressing off of that of that project and actually the tourism committee that we had through Bayhap.

2160
03:07:48,130 --> 03:07:53,070
That that we chair is kind of taking that project on as its lead.

2161
03:07:53,070 --> 03:07:55,830
So another thing that we do.

2162
03:07:56,050 --> 03:08:03,050
As you know, there's funding available for art projects in cities.

2163
03:08:03,630 --> 03:08:06,310
The state of Texas is trying to promote that.

2164
03:08:07,010 --> 03:08:09,970
So there's a source of income through that or source of funding.

2165
03:08:10,130 --> 03:08:11,930
I think a source of funding through that.

2166
03:08:14,200 --> 03:08:18,960
I think as we're looking forward, there's an opportunity to look at zoning

2167
03:08:18,960 --> 03:08:22,500
if we're talking about continuity and the image we want.

2168
03:08:22,500 --> 03:08:30,540
And I also think there's an opportunity to look at shared services in more aggressive ways.

2169
03:08:31,460 --> 03:08:33,760
And we've talked about that at different times.

2170
03:08:33,760 --> 03:08:34,400
You

2171
03:08:38,720 --> 03:08:42,000
were talking maybe about people saying there's still this part basically,

2172
03:08:44,060 --> 03:08:53,380
you're referencing, I guess, what's being referred to as a third space, that's happening for another people.

2173
03:08:53,600 --> 03:08:57,600
Third space, you know, to be on some of the other space cells.

2174
03:09:00,280 --> 03:09:04,480
You know, that's not a start, I mean, that's a cultural issue.

2175
03:09:10,280 --> 03:09:23,020
But, you know, just I'm thinking about that, that is something that people here obviously want and that's something that I really have heard in your reference that you were discussing.

2176
03:09:23,960 --> 03:09:28,100
You know, we're having talks about sports centers and fiction centers and things like that.

2177
03:09:28,220 --> 03:09:32,300
I know that having a gym there and having that available is something not.

2178
03:09:32,440 --> 03:09:36,200
You know, if you're like a character, you're just asking how to put the space in the community.

2179
03:09:37,140 --> 03:09:44,080
I mean, whether they agree or not, I think that's something that would make people, you know,

2180
03:09:44,400 --> 03:09:46,800
at least listen to what you mean there.

2181
03:09:47,120 --> 03:09:47,380
Sure.

2182
03:09:49,940 --> 03:09:54,380
And I think we'll touch on that here in a little bit towards the end of this presentation.

2183
03:09:56,240 --> 03:09:59,740
Tell me, what's your definition of thirds?

2184
03:10:03,090 --> 03:10:33,070
These specifically, well, I guess the reference, I don't really exactly, I don't know the exact need, but basically a third space is something that people used to have a lot of when communities were released here to get around, you know, there was a lot of building and things to that extent. Basically you have work, you have home, but you go to congregate with people, you go to fellowship with people. There is a space that's good. Now, Houston, I mean, you guys could use that.

2185
03:10:33,070 --> 03:10:39,490
So, the computer capital now here is, people don't really do that so much during daytime.

2186
03:10:40,310 --> 03:10:42,130
Basically, it's getting a little bit bubbled.

2187
03:10:42,950 --> 03:10:45,050
And they say that's really good.

2188
03:10:45,310 --> 03:10:46,890
They go travel somewhere with their family.

2189
03:10:47,110 --> 03:10:48,230
This one is perfect.

2190
03:10:48,550 --> 03:10:49,470
This, this, this.

2191
03:10:50,190 --> 03:10:51,970
And so, they kind of binge that.

2192
03:10:52,270 --> 03:10:57,410
The first case is one of the things that you can go anytime that you feel comfortable,

2193
03:10:57,670 --> 03:11:01,790
but also is safe for you, your family, or either.

2194
03:11:01,790 --> 03:11:03,330
If that's something you have to make.

2195
03:11:05,130 --> 03:11:07,830
Here nowadays because it's something you used to have a lot of

2196
03:11:07,830 --> 03:11:10,010
who wanted to bring up. You think that old school

2197
03:11:10,010 --> 03:11:11,550
at first case is buying CAs.

2198
03:11:13,030 --> 03:11:15,110
Different types of shops and activity center,

2199
03:11:15,350 --> 03:11:17,390
Asian center, city and city grants that basically

2200
03:11:17,390 --> 03:11:18,610
have less than things.

2201
03:11:19,050 --> 03:11:21,490
You have these things with those are so expensive.

2202
03:11:21,810 --> 03:11:24,310
If you know a lot of people need to have them, they can move them.

2203
03:11:25,330 --> 03:11:26,410
And those other issues there.

2204
03:11:26,590 --> 03:11:29,230
And so really people use, you know,

2205
03:11:30,330 --> 03:11:37,430
But, you know, people use things like coffee shops, and, you know, some bars and restaurants and things that extend.

2206
03:11:38,350 --> 03:11:41,910
But, you know, nobody gets in, nobody is sitting on their couch at it.

2207
03:11:41,950 --> 03:11:46,150
Sixteries like Pam Ford gets my go to the 57-acre part.

2208
03:11:46,770 --> 03:11:47,990
Yeah, of course they do that.

2209
03:11:48,190 --> 03:11:51,770
But you're talking about something that people can do on a day later, on a day basis.

2210
03:11:52,170 --> 03:11:53,090
They're not doing something like that.

2211
03:11:53,090 --> 03:11:54,930
that users don't have a third space to show,

2212
03:11:55,350 --> 03:11:57,990
you know, comfortable place that doesn't take any

2213
03:11:57,990 --> 03:11:59,830
planning, that doesn't take any of the people

2214
03:11:59,830 --> 03:12:02,110
just to accommodate and then leave.

2215
03:12:02,610 --> 03:12:05,390
That's a, that's a lovely problem for you.

2216
03:12:05,390 --> 03:12:05,550
Sure.

2217
03:12:07,010 --> 03:12:09,210
But it is something I think, I mean,

2218
03:12:09,690 --> 03:12:11,890
you know, you're, you're discussing the pros

2219
03:12:11,890 --> 03:12:13,630
and the cons, which I don't think are perfectly

2220
03:12:13,630 --> 03:12:15,590
discussing this person in this change.

2221
03:12:16,070 --> 03:12:18,210
That is a pro that I have heard of

2222
03:12:18,210 --> 03:12:20,470
of as some of the people who are related to people.

2223
03:12:20,470 --> 03:12:25,150
It's really, really walking at this point because I think that he might have so much

2224
03:12:25,150 --> 03:12:30,030
to offer, like, anger should be, you know, that he won't take the next level, which is

2225
03:12:30,030 --> 03:12:30,190
work.

2226
03:12:31,290 --> 03:12:36,330
What, what I hear you, but I hear you saying it almost from, the image I got in my head

2227
03:12:36,330 --> 03:12:45,050
when you were talking is the St. Mark's Plaza in Venice, where everybody congregates there

2228
03:12:45,050 --> 03:12:50,450
and the question is, is there a space like that that's large enough to hold a number

2229
03:12:50,450 --> 03:12:56,750
of people, but there's also things like restaurants and coffee shops that feed off of those where

2230
03:12:56,750 --> 03:13:00,490
people come to see and be seeing the type of situation.

2231
03:13:01,990 --> 03:13:03,930
Is that what you were talking about specifically?

2232
03:13:04,770 --> 03:13:07,990
Very, very similar in certain things.

2233
03:13:08,010 --> 03:13:11,950
No, they'll have to do the things about it because that's going to come into the, you know,

2234
03:13:12,030 --> 03:13:15,050
we're not just talking about space, you know, we're talking about the same thing.

2235
03:13:16,390 --> 03:13:19,470
businesses, obviously, we have a large amount of business

2236
03:13:19,470 --> 03:13:21,010
coming into the forefront of the game.

2237
03:13:21,550 --> 03:13:22,990
But, you know, it's like a case that earlier,

2238
03:13:23,290 --> 03:13:24,910
you know, we're running out of space.

2239
03:13:25,850 --> 03:13:29,470
And so, you know, I think that has to be balanced with,

2240
03:13:29,730 --> 03:13:31,750
you know, when we go into the,

2241
03:13:32,310 --> 03:13:34,010
do we want to buy and see it here?

2242
03:13:34,210 --> 03:13:35,750
It's going to bring people here during the daytime

2243
03:13:35,750 --> 03:13:37,310
of the kids, or the kids can go,

2244
03:13:38,230 --> 03:13:39,250
there's something like that.

2245
03:13:39,510 --> 03:13:39,690
Sure.

2246
03:13:39,890 --> 03:13:40,750
But it's not going to be profitable.

2247
03:13:41,150 --> 03:13:42,950
Like I said, it's not going to be profitable,

2248
03:13:42,950 --> 03:13:44,350
but does the profit get it?

2249
03:13:44,410 --> 03:13:47,050
This is around because there is a first-based go-to

2250
03:13:47,670 --> 03:13:50,150
and then they go up and hold things and spray it out.

2251
03:13:50,650 --> 03:13:53,430
And it's not so much a tourism issue this morning.

2252
03:13:53,870 --> 03:13:55,950
You know, an internal issue that would be quite,

2253
03:13:56,470 --> 03:13:58,970
find that seed and it's there,

2254
03:13:59,150 --> 03:14:00,190
also for the rest of the suit.

2255
03:14:02,110 --> 03:14:06,410
Well, it may help also diversify the congregating spaces

2256
03:14:06,410 --> 03:14:08,990
that you have now that if there's one specifically

2257
03:14:08,990 --> 03:14:11,170
more towards that's more family-oriented

2258
03:14:11,750 --> 03:14:16,290
versus the bars and the shops and all at the boardwalk.

2259
03:14:16,450 --> 03:14:20,290
So there may be opportunities to develop other places

2260
03:14:20,290 --> 03:14:22,510
for people to congregate, maybe it's more than one,

2261
03:14:22,690 --> 03:14:25,870
but having at least one where families can get together

2262
03:14:25,870 --> 03:14:27,730
by fireworks or whatever the case may be.

2263
03:14:28,990 --> 03:14:30,830
I think someone that's doing a really good job

2264
03:14:30,830 --> 03:14:34,770
of just kind of like micro level of a green space right now

2265
03:14:34,770 --> 03:14:37,790
is the big community green area that's at Baybrook Mall

2266
03:14:37,790 --> 03:14:44,130
with all the restaurants. My wife and I have two young children and that is the focal point.

2267
03:14:44,250 --> 03:14:49,850
We go there and we let what we do there dictate the rest of our stay there. So, you know,

2268
03:14:50,010 --> 03:14:55,750
we might go there and spend the entire time throwing a ball around with other kids and

2269
03:14:55,750 --> 03:14:59,810
then leave or we might end up going to Dave and Busters or grabbing a bite.

2270
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:28,120
Aye, or walking around the rest of them all, but something that I don't know, and I know we're going to get to this later, but something that I don't know has been explained clearly with the sports center project. I think the sports center project would fill the need of a green space, but I think the sports center project also has the ability to attract development that will generate a third space alongside it, if that makes sense.

2271
03:15:28,120 --> 03:15:35,540
Well, also to your point, it's also going to be able to support itself by drawing people

2272
03:15:35,540 --> 03:15:41,980
in and then you need those spaces for people, the housing, the temporary housing, the

2273
03:15:41,980 --> 03:15:47,180
short-term housing so that they can have tutoring or whatever it is that they're doing and

2274
03:15:47,180 --> 03:15:52,360
then leave the next group comes in, so that's a good point.

2275
03:15:52,360 --> 03:15:56,660
So, there's also the fact of kind of closing in on A.

2276
03:15:58,780 --> 03:16:04,880
Kima's a transient town, the fact that it's between the plants, between the ports, between that transient space.

2277
03:16:05,140 --> 03:16:11,360
We know what's coming to the Galveston area in general between all the developments going on at NASA and

2278
03:16:11,360 --> 03:16:14,740
the shipbuilding and the new plants being built in the expansions and the diesel.

2279
03:16:16,000 --> 03:16:19,840
You're going to change, industry is going to change the general region down here.

2280
03:16:19,840 --> 03:16:23,540
You're going to have more of that transient group of folks down here.

2281
03:16:23,640 --> 03:16:27,400
Don't even get me started on what's happening on Port of Galveston with adding more cruise ships and so forth.

2282
03:16:27,700 --> 03:16:33,060
You're going to become more of a tourist trap, or you're going to become more of a destination and so on and so forth with tourism.

2283
03:16:33,320 --> 03:16:40,000
It's going to expand even more, which is why all these homes are being built in League City and Texas City and here and everything else and everything between.

2284
03:16:40,760 --> 03:16:49,320
What Kim offers, that's different, is someone may not want to stay in an obscure hotel off of 146 or I'm 45 that doesn't have anything around it.

2285
03:16:49,320 --> 03:16:54,960
People would want to stay somewhere like Kema, which is between and offers you so much more to do while you're here.

2286
03:16:55,140 --> 03:17:03,160
That offers a natural third place when you are traveling, which adds to that weekday travel and weekday business that we want to capitalize on that we're currently not doing enough of.

2287
03:17:03,820 --> 03:17:11,880
So I think when we say that's what's missing, that's one thing that I was hoping somebody else was going to maybe mention, but I wanted to just mention it because I feel that that's something that's missing.

2288
03:17:13,040 --> 03:17:15,520
We have the other things.

2289
03:17:16,280 --> 03:17:20,400
Touching a little bit on the community center and event center.

2290
03:17:21,440 --> 03:17:26,680
A lot of these places are built in obscure places that don't have any attractions or restaurants or anything around them.

2291
03:17:27,160 --> 03:17:30,020
I can't tell you some of the places that I've been to where you drive past it three times.

2292
03:17:30,080 --> 03:17:30,900
You don't even know that you're there.

2293
03:17:31,580 --> 03:17:34,000
And it's the middle of a warehouse and I'm standing up, standing in the corner,

2294
03:17:34,120 --> 03:17:35,760
and it's just uncomfortable on there for four hours.

2295
03:17:36,280 --> 03:17:39,260
Eating bags of chips and hot sodas.

2296
03:17:39,260 --> 03:17:42,520
So it really ends up being part of that.

2297
03:17:42,620 --> 03:17:47,680
We are different in the fact that we have the destination already and the attraction method comes from there.

2298
03:17:48,260 --> 03:17:52,800
So the Northern Riding things that can happen from that is different, but I want to go back to talk about the community center component of it.

2299
03:17:53,500 --> 03:17:58,880
The nucleus of this building or the contraption whenever we end up building, if we end up doing it or not,

2300
03:17:59,680 --> 03:18:05,540
is that community center because that's what's going to be used 70% of the time, right?

2301
03:18:05,540 --> 03:18:09,700
We've got a large homeschool population in the area that don't have anywhere to go.

2302
03:18:10,660 --> 03:18:14,680
We have no afterschool programming, nothing against our school system,

2303
03:18:14,960 --> 03:18:20,000
nothing against, there is almost zero afterschool programming unless you're going to the private sector

2304
03:18:20,000 --> 03:18:24,900
and going to the karate classes or the mathenesiums or the kumas or anything else.

2305
03:18:24,960 --> 03:18:28,780
There's just no afterschool programming and almost no summer camp programming.

2306
03:18:29,680 --> 03:18:33,120
Our kids deserve that and I think it's a voice

2307
03:18:33,120 --> 03:18:36,740
that has been silenced or muzzled in this entire thing because we haven't been able to

2308
03:18:36,740 --> 03:18:41,140
ask that question. And again, they don't get to vote. So that's a little bit different.

2309
03:18:41,360 --> 03:18:45,060
But I'll get off that so about for a second. Is there anything else before we move on

2310
03:18:45,060 --> 03:18:49,920
to be that you feel that the SWAT and was presented today in the discussion that we've had that

2311
03:18:49,920 --> 03:18:52,920
we have not touched on? Darren, I know you've turned your mic on.

2312
03:18:54,060 --> 03:18:58,500
Well, I think one thing, and this is going to be beyond my ears, but I think something

2313
03:18:58,500 --> 03:19:03,360
and the board needs to look at is you have what for me

2314
03:19:03,360 --> 03:19:07,080
and what six million people cruising out of Galveston now

2315
03:19:07,080 --> 03:19:07,860
on an annual basis.

2316
03:19:09,160 --> 03:19:13,460
I know in my bouncing around chemon Friday, afternoons,

2317
03:19:13,540 --> 03:19:16,520
or evenings, I'm amazed at how many people I meet

2318
03:19:16,520 --> 03:19:18,820
that are traveling to Galveston.

2319
03:19:18,940 --> 03:19:21,420
And I don't know that we market to that

2320
03:19:21,420 --> 03:19:23,420
because once you cruise once in Galveston,

2321
03:19:23,480 --> 03:19:25,380
do the strand, you've done the strand.

2322
03:19:25,840 --> 03:19:27,220
So if you're coming back the next time,

2323
03:19:27,220 --> 03:19:30,080
If we figure out how to interconnect the girl in 25, 30 minutes away,

2324
03:19:31,140 --> 03:19:34,980
catchin' that Friday night traffic of that 4 million or 6 million people,

2325
03:19:35,160 --> 03:19:37,640
they're not catching a whole lot of it, but I mean,

2326
03:19:37,640 --> 03:19:39,000
there's traffic to be had there.

2327
03:19:39,500 --> 03:19:43,740
It's coming right down either 146 or 45 and looking at place where AI,

2328
03:19:44,520 --> 03:19:45,880
me and Dustin have done some analysis.

2329
03:19:46,240 --> 03:19:50,080
We were really, truly shocked that the number of people coming from Dallas will work.

2330
03:19:51,200 --> 03:19:54,520
It's just market, but I think a lot of them are coming to go to the cruise lines.

2331
03:19:54,520 --> 03:19:57,940
And that's what's bringing them down here is the cruise lines, but I mean they're bringing

2332
03:19:57,940 --> 03:19:58,440
them south.

2333
03:19:59,140 --> 03:19:59,960
and the other thing I would...

2334
03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:29,820
Let's say, from an economic development, because this is, you know, I've learned in the last three years, Texas talks about the triangle from Dallas to San Antonio to Houston, the big triangle of Texas. One thing I have pitched, because one thing you'll run in the economics here is if you do a five mile circle around chemo, you know, two thirds of its water. So we don't have the population, but we have the traffic counts. So you got to go sell the story. So the story that I've been selling and having some traction with is the West Out of Leak City.

2335
03:20:29,820 --> 03:20:35,320
mountain belt you and Kima if you look at it's a triangle and you capture 25 mile drive,

2336
03:20:35,780 --> 03:20:40,460
you capture a market, but they can't go east of us because it's water. So they have to

2337
03:20:40,460 --> 03:20:44,920
come through Kima. So I mean it's getting traction because they want to be about 25 miles

2338
03:20:44,920 --> 03:20:50,340
apart because everybody says 0.45 is right down the road. Well anybody who lives here doesn't

2339
03:20:50,340 --> 03:20:55,900
go to 45 unless you have to. I mean because I can do it at 15, 12 to 15 minutes right now

2340
03:20:55,900 --> 03:21:25,800
probably five o'clock, it takes me 30 minutes to go from here to 45. I mean, must well just shoot me. I don't want to do that, so yeah, I mean, I think that's things that, you know, future councils and KCBC board members really need to look at because there is a triangle there and I think that's where you can gain some traction because it's a huge population. People are still coming. I mean, Santa Fe is talking about 6,000 more homes talking to the mayor of the day. I'm like, well, the Galvesti County is blowing up. So, I mean, and that's the things we got to capitalize.

2341
03:21:26,300 --> 03:21:29,380
I think a lot of our businesses don't look at our local markets.

2342
03:21:29,660 --> 03:21:32,140
I think they forget about the Marabella's.

2343
03:21:32,180 --> 03:21:33,720
It's not even, but it's right across the street.

2344
03:21:34,120 --> 03:21:35,600
A lot of people have Marabella's.

2345
03:21:35,640 --> 03:21:41,100
It's going to keep Marabella because I partake with them and I think they miss that concept

2346
03:21:41,100 --> 03:21:43,240
of focusing on its local base.

2347
03:21:43,420 --> 03:21:46,920
I think that's what we have to do for our local businesses is really because we got some

2348
03:21:47,660 --> 03:21:51,620
string equal restaurants, probably off the charts when you look at the number of restaurants.

2349
03:21:51,620 --> 03:21:56,440
And a lot of that has transpired because the chains haven't come here, other than the boardwalk.

2350
03:21:57,360 --> 03:21:59,880
Because they can't do the file model circle and they can't check the box.

2351
03:22:00,360 --> 03:22:02,080
And if it doesn't make it, it was a job.

2352
03:22:02,420 --> 03:22:02,900
We've wanted that.

2353
03:22:03,180 --> 03:22:04,300
I think we've had enough conversations.

2354
03:22:05,100 --> 03:22:08,640
So that's why we've been up with all these very unique restaurants that are very good.

2355
03:22:09,140 --> 03:22:10,180
It's made us very unique.

2356
03:22:10,480 --> 03:22:15,440
I agree the dining experience ought to be one of the top things that we're pushing out to the market

2357
03:22:15,440 --> 03:22:19,180
because we do have Italian food, Mexican food.

2358
03:22:19,180 --> 03:22:24,520
We got Akylin, which is almost the five-star Michelin set right here.

2359
03:22:24,640 --> 03:22:25,380
There's nobody in those here.

2360
03:22:26,100 --> 03:22:27,140
We got T-bone Tom's.

2361
03:22:27,200 --> 03:22:28,460
I mean, you just got to go down the list.

2362
03:22:29,020 --> 03:22:30,080
Tukies with hamburgers.

2363
03:22:30,140 --> 03:22:33,880
I mean, dude, it's keep going down the list of very unique places that actually hit top

2364
03:22:33,880 --> 03:22:35,500
10 in the state of Texas.

2365
03:22:36,200 --> 03:22:36,560
Bar of coffee.

2366
03:22:37,440 --> 03:22:38,360
I mean, all the things.

2367
03:22:38,660 --> 03:22:39,920
But I mean, a flower shop.

2368
03:22:40,060 --> 03:22:41,660
So the top 10 in the state of Texas.

2369
03:22:42,240 --> 03:22:45,740
I mean, we just have a lot of unique things that I think we've got to do, a better job

2370
03:22:45,740 --> 03:22:46,360
of marketing.

2371
03:22:46,360 --> 03:22:51,260
And we're working at it, but I mean it's future council's going to continue to work on it because it's not just a

2372
03:22:52,000 --> 03:22:56,800
Put a mandate on fix it. It's going to be something that's going to be continually just got to be part of this plan to

2373
03:22:56,800 --> 03:23:03,820
2040. This is where we want to go. This is where we're rolling the ball and we're going to have to keep the ball going because these faces up here have changed. I've seen it too many times.

2374
03:23:04,520 --> 03:23:08,020
I mean I'm five years and I'm senior up here on the council so I mean faces change.

2375
03:23:08,680 --> 03:23:14,880
Do we have any billboards for people that are coming in saying hey, come to Kima. This is what we have.

2376
03:23:14,880 --> 03:23:18,640
I think we're working on the blue board to text on and we're working on some things.

2377
03:23:19,600 --> 03:23:24,140
You got the constructions over, we can gain some traction and you don't like the welcome signs.

2378
03:23:24,360 --> 03:23:26,960
Have we found out when this sign's going to be raised out here?

2379
03:23:27,460 --> 03:23:32,300
I talked to him about that when it came for a hurricane kickoff and he was going to go look into it.

2380
03:23:32,800 --> 03:23:35,800
He vaguely did remember that they were supposed to do that.

2381
03:23:36,120 --> 03:23:38,620
So we probably need to follow up with Mr. President.

2382
03:23:38,620 --> 03:23:42,600
Yeah, because like Cesar said, this is a drafter city, so we need them to stop.

2383
03:23:42,600 --> 03:23:46,700
I know we have some access to that sign that we are not utilizing, so Casey D.C.

2384
03:23:46,840 --> 03:23:49,280
We have so many impressions in here.

2385
03:23:50,220 --> 03:23:53,300
I don't think recent time has been used at all.

2386
03:23:54,060 --> 03:23:55,160
Give more information.

2387
03:23:57,480 --> 03:24:00,360
It has to be a city event.

2388
03:24:00,820 --> 03:24:06,340
We can't promote a restaurant or a band or something like that.

2389
03:24:06,560 --> 03:24:07,780
It has to be a city event.

2390
03:24:07,780 --> 03:24:11,420
And in the past, to speak to what Darren was saying, I think,

2391
03:24:11,600 --> 03:24:14,360
not being able to check that box has worked to our advantage.

2392
03:24:14,360 --> 03:24:19,100
And given us unique, great, wonderful things that are different

2393
03:24:19,100 --> 03:24:22,020
enough that people will make that a destination restaurant

2394
03:24:22,560 --> 03:24:26,000
or outing rather than going to the chains.

2395
03:24:26,740 --> 03:24:31,580
And some years ago, a lot of the cruise lines

2396
03:24:31,580 --> 03:24:34,860
went out here out of, I don't know if it was the port,

2397
03:24:37,120 --> 03:24:43,860
They would have buses bringing those people over here because they come in the night before so I I know there was

2398
03:24:43,860 --> 03:24:49,140
An attempt at capturing that but they don't go out and hear anymore. So it's a little bit

2399
03:24:49,820 --> 03:24:54,240
Different way to capture them now, but I think that he's completely right and

2400
03:24:55,260 --> 03:24:59,740
They they drive that direction from here to go gamble at Koshado

2401
03:25:01,690 --> 03:25:07,950
We just need to encourage them to come back this way, you know, to do what we have to do over here, whether it's voting or anything.

2402
03:25:09,070 --> 03:25:14,170
I mean, that's what we might be able to tap into that parking is a disaster down there.

2403
03:25:14,470 --> 03:25:17,990
We go down there for Mardi Gras and it's always smoked.

2404
03:25:18,230 --> 03:25:20,910
Well, you go in your golf park so you don't have to park.

2405
03:25:21,170 --> 03:25:24,190
I thought we were going to go up to the arena down there for Mardi Gras to do on the pole.

2406
03:25:24,210 --> 03:25:25,010
That's crazy.

2407
03:25:25,770 --> 03:25:27,550
Partner with a charter bus or something.

2408
03:25:27,910 --> 03:25:29,810
The signage that you're talking about is that?

2409
03:25:30,810 --> 03:25:32,790
Textile has like done the 45, the blue signs.

2410
03:25:32,930 --> 03:25:33,670
Blue signs probably.

2411
03:25:33,670 --> 03:25:34,830
I think blue signs when you have to

2412
03:25:34,830 --> 03:25:38,430
get the gas and the lodging and the rest of us.

2413
03:25:38,530 --> 03:25:41,050
Well, okay, what are all the systems

2414
03:25:41,050 --> 03:25:43,270
working on bringing gold wounds back around?

2415
03:25:46,500 --> 03:25:49,560
Mine players used to have 40 awards,

2416
03:25:50,060 --> 03:25:51,240
get different properties around,

2417
03:25:51,640 --> 03:25:53,660
put the same number down to 45

2418
03:25:54,240 --> 03:25:55,760
and then you have to have one time

2419
03:25:55,760 --> 03:25:58,120
and try to bring them back as an ownership.

2420
03:25:58,380 --> 03:25:59,820
I'm sorry, bring them back as an ownership

2421
03:25:59,820 --> 03:26:00,880
or as in leasing.

2422
03:26:01,100 --> 03:26:02,580
Get them through this next session.

2423
03:26:02,880 --> 03:26:03,100
Sure.

2424
03:26:07,020 --> 03:26:14,100
Well you don't you don't want to be considered something that's billboards aren't all of

2425
03:26:14,100 --> 03:26:21,120
that aesthetic and in Houston they're that's one of the things you're trying to get rid

2426
03:26:21,120 --> 03:26:26,340
of as much as possible as some of the billboards but my question is is there a way of getting

2427
03:26:26,860 --> 03:26:38,260
a sign to address your point about advertising that tells what's going on, so it's constantly changing that you can change from working on digital marketing.

2428
03:26:39,040 --> 03:26:42,680
I mean that's great. We talk about images and things like that.

2429
03:26:43,020 --> 03:26:48,380
The sign out right in front of City Hall has not been raised since the road, but they're supposed to raise that sign.

2430
03:26:48,560 --> 03:26:49,960
We have some access to that sign.

2431
03:26:49,960 --> 03:26:57,320
Okay, and we've talked about the top of the community center if you drive North on 146 the third floor or fourth floor

2432
03:26:57,320 --> 03:27:03,660
The community center is birds out you for 10 seconds. I mean you got their attention. I mean, it's a billboard on steroids

2433
03:27:03,660 --> 03:27:08,800
Yeah, I mean cuz I do it every morning. Yeah, I mean we're trying to talk about maybe trying to figure out some way and

2434
03:27:09,380 --> 03:27:12,600
Clean was our space, but try to make it something where we start

2435
03:27:13,600 --> 03:27:17,160
Advertising the people that hey Kim is right here because you just fly over every day

2436
03:27:17,160 --> 03:27:23,140
You're not really going to chemum. You're just hitting the fly over you're flying back over and back. You're not ever hitting our

2437
03:27:23,700 --> 03:27:24,160
Bayes

2438
03:27:24,880 --> 03:27:29,560
Because you've got two three ways in here. They also help and find not where you are

2439
03:27:32,080 --> 03:27:34,380
Three and going from one city to the other

2440
03:27:36,800 --> 03:27:37,960
Chance at that

2441
03:27:38,900 --> 03:27:42,420
Yeah, it's still kind of just now it won't even finish

2442
03:27:42,420 --> 03:27:43,280
That's a nine and six.

2443
03:27:43,300 --> 03:27:43,680
That's what I said.

2444
03:27:43,860 --> 03:27:45,760
When we need to put the entry sign, there's still doing the rude.

2445
03:27:46,200 --> 03:27:46,280
Yeah.

2446
03:27:46,440 --> 03:27:48,940
So, I mean, we've had their wait and it's been talked about.

2447
03:27:49,060 --> 03:27:51,460
I've actually got the land from the landowner permission.

2448
03:27:52,200 --> 03:27:54,540
I've already got all that in place, but I don't want to put something up in text.

2449
03:27:54,700 --> 03:27:54,920
Yeah.

2450
03:27:55,260 --> 03:27:59,220
Well, if you came up with a design, I would love to have that conversation.

2451
03:27:59,640 --> 03:28:00,900
It's like Port Arthur.

2452
03:28:01,460 --> 03:28:06,460
They've got the new signs coming into Port Arthur, Texas, which grabs your attention.

2453
03:28:06,640 --> 03:28:11,300
I'm like, something unique for chemo where we can have all the entry points.

2454
03:28:14,400 --> 03:28:23,920
Yeah really cool graphics that sort of thing as going from either way from north to south that you all you see those and it automatically makes you realize where you are

2455
03:28:23,920 --> 03:28:24,440
In the

2456
03:28:24,980 --> 03:28:25,380
Seeking

2457
03:28:26,300 --> 03:28:31,900
Well, if you come out somewhere designed or somebody comes out, I would love to see people's ideas on what that looks like on the entry

2458
03:28:31,900 --> 03:28:37,140
Just I don't think it needs to be huge because we're all just pretty much straight up, but I mean get your attention

2459
03:28:37,140 --> 03:28:38,220
Yeah, yeah.

2460
03:28:38,220 --> 03:28:42,140
I've got to go for years and I'm like quite impressed that they actually did that.

2461
03:28:42,460 --> 03:28:42,620
Yeah.

2462
03:28:43,040 --> 03:28:45,240
Well, I like the idea of changing.

2463
03:28:45,920 --> 03:28:48,200
So from day to day, y'all can make it change.

2464
03:28:48,780 --> 03:28:51,720
That's a little lower traffic and I think that's the people that actually gravitate to our

2465
03:28:51,720 --> 03:28:52,000
town.

2466
03:28:52,340 --> 03:28:54,240
People are going to go on top there and it's going to work.

2467
03:28:54,580 --> 03:28:58,900
Well, but that's why I say I'm talking about a year's center, where you just grab

2468
03:28:58,900 --> 03:29:02,300
ones like Keema, Keema, Keema, because you forget about them on the obviously it's just

2469
03:29:02,760 --> 03:29:03,160
okay.

2470
03:29:03,540 --> 03:29:04,300
You sit on this traffic.

2471
03:29:04,300 --> 03:29:08,500
I mean, if I have a call, you're going to sit on top of that bridge for 30 minutes to the sky.

2472
03:29:09,380 --> 03:29:09,420
Yeah.

2473
03:29:09,980 --> 03:29:12,760
People hate it, it's getting worse because they're going down the one lane on the construction.

2474
03:29:12,760 --> 03:29:13,140
I know.

2475
03:29:13,420 --> 03:29:13,940
They're good, they're good.

2476
03:29:14,060 --> 03:29:14,660
Yeah, we should.

2477
03:29:14,980 --> 03:29:15,600
We had for five years.

2478
03:29:15,640 --> 03:29:16,080
Yeah, awesome.

2479
03:29:16,700 --> 03:29:20,500
When I get finished, you know, it could be a lot better, but it will take a while.

2480
03:29:20,920 --> 03:29:21,400
Oh, yeah.

2481
03:29:21,820 --> 03:29:23,060
So last night, the-

2482
03:29:23,060 --> 03:29:24,040
Every calls will take a little bit.

2483
03:29:24,120 --> 03:29:25,560
I'm like, I don't know if you just get ready.

2484
03:29:26,440 --> 03:29:32,340
So last night we voted, it's DC-voted to approve the Kima Digital Project as an actual project.

2485
03:29:32,340 --> 03:29:39,700
I created an outline for us incorporating digital signage along the lower part of a part of 146.

2486
03:29:39,980 --> 03:29:46,840
One of the things that's interesting, we look at text out, you got 11 million people going over 146 every year.

2487
03:29:47,120 --> 03:29:51,680
And when we first talked to those consultants, they're like, why aren't you talking to these guys?

2488
03:29:52,420 --> 03:29:55,880
And so that's what we're planning on doing, so we just got that started, we got a good outline.

2489
03:29:55,880 --> 03:29:59,680
And more importantly, we're through the team of Business Alliance.

2490
03:30:00,050 --> 03:30:29,110
We're looking at partnering with all of our businesses in KBA for them to cost share with us and do in YouTube style, six, seven, second, bumper ads that we can do on this. And the idea being that you pay for part of it, and you pay for subscription. But you have to do it through the scheme of business lines, which allows us to control it. But our goal is in the first year to have at least 30 of these done and up on these signs to tell people who we are, what we do, and come see us and spend money here.

2491
03:30:29,750 --> 03:30:30,750
Where would this be?

2492
03:30:31,070 --> 03:30:31,390
Pardon?

2493
03:30:31,810 --> 03:30:32,470
Where would this be?

2494
03:30:32,650 --> 03:30:39,050
Well, the first one we proposed is to replace obviously the one on 2094 and 146 the one right

2495
03:30:39,050 --> 03:30:40,110
outside the community center.

2496
03:30:40,790 --> 03:30:44,170
It's very dull and it's almost dead so that needs to go first.

2497
03:30:44,570 --> 03:30:51,170
Second would be on the southeast corner of Sixth Street and 146 where that little cops of

2498
03:30:51,170 --> 03:30:51,950
trees is right now.

2499
03:30:52,270 --> 03:30:53,310
That's city owned property.

2500
03:30:53,770 --> 03:30:59,030
Now, you know, when you think about four million people that are coming to

2501
03:30:59,030 --> 03:31:10,890
Sixth Street. So we have an opportunity to talk to them there as well. One of the things I mentioned last night was the issue that when you have a vintage shopping area, it's great because you don't, it's an alternative to all of the chains, right?

2502
03:31:11,230 --> 03:31:20,410
But also the drawback is that some of these places are hidden in a cool car creamery is the best ice cream within 50 miles here, but unless you know what's here, you don't know what's here.

2503
03:31:20,410 --> 03:31:23,050
So when

2504
03:31:25,610 --> 03:31:35,190
you're coming in, when you're coming in to chemo, we need to tell you, cool cow, Mona Lisa, fish and chips, whatever it is, you know, the steakhouse, people forget about even people who live for forget about this, right?

2505
03:31:35,310 --> 03:31:44,990
So the idea is let people know what's going on, not just about the business guys, but we have chemo general tourism messaging, we've got emergency messaging, anything we want to do.

2506
03:31:44,990 --> 03:31:58,410
Another issue you talked about in terms of destination having the monuments, we're kind of trying to incorporate the entry and exit monuments into the Kima digital project to make it sort of contiguous, you know, and cibionic throughout the path through Kima.

2507
03:31:59,010 --> 03:32:05,950
But the idea is we want to let them know what's going on, but you also want to let them know you're at the destination.

2508
03:32:05,950 --> 03:32:16,450
So, one of the options we had in the Gateway Park, which is now the name of the Linear Park, is when you look at our pilings that hold up the freeway, they're perfectly segmented just like our lighthouses.

2509
03:32:16,770 --> 03:32:23,130
So, we could do those in blue and white, we can, you know, we can do a lot of things with what's already here to let people know you're here.

2510
03:32:25,670 --> 03:32:28,350
But there's lots of opportunities to do exactly what he's talking about.

2511
03:32:28,470 --> 03:32:34,870
But first and foremost is, you know, when you go talk to our business owners that are over there in lighthouse district, you get the big eye.

2512
03:32:35,330 --> 03:32:42,150
Because it's everything they got and they're all in on this and they're just wondering how are we helping them you know

2513
03:32:42,150 --> 03:32:47,990
You realize we just need to get their profile raised and let them know you know that we're we're here supporting you guys

2514
03:32:47,990 --> 03:32:51,610
So this project should go a long way to to get and get and started there

2515
03:32:52,530 --> 03:32:52,930
so

2516
03:32:54,210 --> 03:32:55,350
I'm playing time keeper

2517
03:32:55,350 --> 03:32:59,790
They might have any other comment you want to make Tom sorry for cutting you off, but but I do want to go to be

2518
03:33:00,810 --> 03:33:05,410
Which we're kind of segway to that already beyond the boardwalk, but I do want to stop at the boardwalk a second

2519
03:33:05,410 --> 03:33:08,350
And I don't think there's something we didn't do a good enough job of boasting

2520
03:33:08,810 --> 03:33:11,330
Bussing you're here. We can go ahead and talk about the boardwalk a second

2521
03:33:11,330 --> 03:33:14,470
But we've got the second best rated boardwalk in

2522
03:33:15,330 --> 03:33:17,210
the in the entire country

2523
03:33:18,630 --> 03:33:23,170
It was in the top 10 and was final boating came out. We finished at number two correct

2524
03:33:25,560 --> 03:33:32,340
somewhere new Jersey, where was it while would, just south of, yeah, they're all together.

2525
03:33:32,680 --> 03:33:37,680
So I think we don't do enough to boast that.

2526
03:33:38,300 --> 03:33:42,120
I think we talked about what makes it special.

2527
03:33:42,300 --> 03:33:47,160
I think it'd be hard to deny that the boardwalk is one of those things, and even the excitement

2528
03:33:47,160 --> 03:33:50,980
of what could be with different segments and things that we could do with the boardwalk

2529
03:33:50,980 --> 03:33:52,640
making that downtown area more walkable.

2530
03:33:53,160 --> 03:33:58,840
I think that there's a lot of synergy that's available to that, but we talked about being

2531
03:33:58,840 --> 03:33:59,500
a foodie town.

2532
03:34:00,340 --> 03:34:05,780
We've talked about eco-terrorism, and you sprinkle that with a little industry, you know, there's

2533
03:34:05,780 --> 03:34:08,280
a little industry happening here in Kima.

2534
03:34:08,420 --> 03:34:14,080
That Anders Road, there's a little bit of industry going on there there in kind of down 518

2535
03:34:14,580 --> 03:34:15,980
and in certain corridors.

2536
03:34:16,200 --> 03:34:18,200
So it's happening in little tidbits.

2537
03:34:18,200 --> 03:34:23,440
It's we are becoming our own little metropolis of our own, if you will, with some of the things that are sprinkled in.

2538
03:34:25,840 --> 03:34:33,740
But I'll take away from also we talked about some of the actual development you talk about workforce housing.

2539
03:34:34,180 --> 03:34:38,280
The code department is going to hopefully fill some of that need.

2540
03:34:38,960 --> 03:34:42,380
But you talk about the Marina, there's 300 valet boat slips coming in.

2541
03:34:43,060 --> 03:34:48,360
That's 300 potential folks of clientele that are going to be coming in here and being within

2542
03:34:48,360 --> 03:34:51,240
the city limits that we want to capitalize and market with them.

2543
03:34:51,340 --> 03:34:54,720
So we've talked to them about some of some of co-marketing so that when they come,

2544
03:34:55,540 --> 03:34:57,520
if they're going to go on the boat, are they going to cater anything?

2545
03:34:58,240 --> 03:34:59,620
Are they going to go afterwards?

2546
03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:18,420
We're going to go to before. I'm going to stop by Walmart because you want to get some, you know, slippers or some sunscreen. So those are things that we want to try to focus on a little bit more. So I think those are some of the opportunities that we have coming up in the very near future. So I'm managing B would see here. But what else are we missing? What else makes chemo special?

2547
03:35:20,930 --> 03:35:31,150
We mentioned the cool cows and the, you know, that's what he, uh, and the fish and chips. I think that's a uniqueness. I think the artist something that we're missing that we could probably capitalize more.

2548
03:35:31,150 --> 03:35:38,250
When someone asks me, tell me what Kima is, and I kind of summarize it like my elevator pitch is saying it's Austin meets Key West

2549
03:35:39,010 --> 03:35:40,010
with some golf carts

2550
03:35:40,930 --> 03:35:41,750
and everybody goes

2551
03:35:42,950 --> 03:35:44,110
Okay, I get that

2552
03:35:44,790 --> 03:35:47,390
Is that our identity? Is that what we're going to be?

2553
03:35:48,110 --> 03:35:51,670
And that's the question that I want to kind of help get answered here amongst everybody here because

2554
03:35:52,390 --> 03:35:56,610
Where are you going to have such an neglect? I mean, we have how many residents live at the Huntington?

2555
03:35:59,990 --> 03:36:00,790
144 apartments

2556
03:36:00,790 --> 03:36:05,770
So if I had to guess as maybe 180 residents, to 200.

2557
03:36:10,050 --> 03:36:13,750
So you've got 10% of the community lives right there in that building.

2558
03:36:14,090 --> 03:36:16,950
I mean, within that actual complex.

2559
03:36:17,770 --> 03:36:25,250
We've got such opportunity where we've got a mix of a, I don't want to call it senior housing, but it could be, right?

2560
03:36:25,430 --> 03:36:32,650
For the most part, you told me that a lot of folks that live there, we should've got new families moving into the Dakota apartment.

2561
03:36:32,650 --> 03:36:40,190
And you've got established families in the chemo-oaks, and you have semi-pre-retirement families sometimes moving into the chemo-crossing.

2562
03:36:40,250 --> 03:36:50,650
You've got such a mix of folks here, but you have golf carts, and you've got water, and you've got great restaurants, and you've got a boardwalk, and you've got the guest or center.

2563
03:36:50,970 --> 03:36:59,910
I mean, I don't think we prioritize enough of how unique we are, how awesome we are, and what makes us special.

2564
03:37:00,570 --> 03:37:04,510
But am I missing something because I'm one of the newest people here in the room.

2565
03:37:05,310 --> 03:37:06,710
So what do we miss?

2566
03:37:07,110 --> 03:37:08,130
Is there anything else?

2567
03:37:08,170 --> 03:37:10,190
Because if that's it, that's a great list to have.

2568
03:37:10,770 --> 03:37:14,010
I mean, I personally would love to see more art here.

2569
03:37:14,150 --> 03:37:17,250
I think the mural park is beautiful, I've tried several times,

2570
03:38:01,710 --> 03:38:02,150
or the bridge,

2571
03:38:04,360 --> 03:38:04,820
and it looks

2572
03:38:04,820 --> 03:38:05,260
and

2573
03:38:10,310 --> 03:38:11,130
work out in the

2574
03:38:13,180 --> 03:38:14,160
area where you can let your...

2575
03:38:40,620 --> 03:38:47,840
Yeah, there's not a feeling of connection in the sense that you've got Kima crossing,

2576
03:38:47,840 --> 03:38:53,740
you've got Kima, oh she's got the lighthouse this one, you've got the boardwalk. And if you're,

2577
03:38:53,880 --> 03:39:03,400
you know, I've lived here almost three years, there's not a natural connectivity. So there's a lot

2578
03:39:03,400 --> 03:39:10,460
of stuff and yet it feels disjointed. The plan was so for the parks to all be connected eventually.

2579
03:39:10,460 --> 03:39:19,780
That was the overall plan, there would be a way provided that you could walk through all of the opportunities.

2580
03:39:20,660 --> 03:39:29,680
It would be nice if there were wayfinding signs and things painted to make it look more cohesive as you were talking about earlier.

2581
03:39:31,420 --> 03:39:35,200
Sometimes when I go out of town, I engage a place by, but I want to live here.

2582
03:39:35,580 --> 03:39:39,360
It's usually my first thing, I spend a week in there or whatever, and I'm like, can I live here?

2583
03:39:39,580 --> 03:39:41,820
What I want to live here? I want to get enough to live here.

2584
03:39:43,700 --> 03:39:49,680
And there's, those are few and far between for me because I do love it here so much.

2585
03:39:50,360 --> 03:39:54,300
Although we've grown by the sea for our pants and there's no zoning and we can't put that

2586
03:39:54,300 --> 03:39:59,080
that toothpaste back in the tube now, probably, and that kind of thing.

2587
03:40:00,020 --> 03:40:29,600
It's still a very unique, wonderful place that I like, and I don't maybe like it in August, you know, it's hot, but some of those other places I name that I do like, they have a similar thing. They have a writing month or a this or that. I mean, everybody's got something, you know? Do y'all have, are there a lot of artists that live in the area? Well, yes, yes, let's say. I would say from Galveston to Houston there's any

2588
03:40:29,600 --> 03:40:38,240
amount of them in any platform or media that you could dream of you know yeah so

2589
03:40:38,240 --> 03:40:45,060
that that is a resource that you can pull upon and that like if I'm just saying

2590
03:40:45,060 --> 03:40:48,420
okay you could even almost maybe you have an artist colony or something like

2591
03:40:48,420 --> 03:40:53,560
that where people come down here maybe just stay for a few days and maybe it's

2592
03:40:53,560 --> 03:40:58,660
there's there's a Zen component of it or there's a painting component of it or

2593
03:40:58,660 --> 03:41:01,440
or whatever, so it could be a place where you can come down

2594
03:41:01,440 --> 03:41:05,580
and just relax and get in touch with different parts

2595
03:41:05,580 --> 03:41:07,060
of yourself or something like that.

2596
03:41:07,260 --> 03:41:11,060
But the art and the art type of stuff could help that.

2597
03:41:11,520 --> 03:41:13,440
I thought you two brought up really good point.

2598
03:41:13,680 --> 03:41:15,580
I mean, to me, you know, having been immersed

2599
03:41:15,580 --> 03:41:18,880
in that linear gateway park planning, you know,

2600
03:41:18,900 --> 03:41:20,560
since it goes all the way from Bell, you know,

2601
03:41:20,600 --> 03:41:23,560
all the way to the water, there's a unique opportunity

2602
03:41:23,560 --> 03:41:26,740
and we've been really actively working on this

2603
03:41:26,740 --> 03:41:31,920
to create that visual connection, right, from end to end, right, that you know you're in chema.

2604
03:41:32,180 --> 03:41:34,860
It's tight, you know, even if, like painting the piling, it's a part of that.

2605
03:41:35,060 --> 03:41:36,260
You know you're somewhere, right?

2606
03:41:36,360 --> 03:41:39,540
So that, to me, it gives a great opportunity to provide that visual connection.

2607
03:41:39,820 --> 03:41:43,420
But the mixed-use path also gives us opportunity to provide a physical connection.

2608
03:41:43,960 --> 03:41:47,840
Now, Ronny had brought that up a couple years ago that there was a tech-stop plan

2609
03:41:47,840 --> 03:41:55,180
to widen the sidewalks on 2094 and 518 and possibly 96 that would allow you to come out of your neighborhood,

2610
03:41:55,180 --> 03:42:00,700
that get on your golf cart and come down and then connect to the mixed shoes path at that point wherever you want to go.

2611
03:42:00,980 --> 03:42:04,420
They already do it clearly like shorts because it comes down third street and they're in there.

2612
03:42:04,780 --> 03:42:09,680
And I'm like, man, this would be great if all neighbors let's have this access and now you've got your golf cart neighborhood.

2613
03:42:09,900 --> 03:42:15,560
So I think we have an opportunity to do, kill a couple of birds with that one stone, like about three birds with that one stone.

2614
03:42:16,060 --> 03:42:20,660
Make that four, excuse me, because we do, you know, we did talk about a while back about, you know,

2615
03:42:20,660 --> 03:42:25,180
Pickleball courts or workout areas and most of that linear park is too dangerous to do that

2616
03:42:25,180 --> 03:42:29,600
But six treat on the west side. They're just south of where we want to do the big

2617
03:42:30,840 --> 03:42:33,820
Exhibit space or is perfect for

2618
03:42:34,940 --> 03:42:40,760
You know outdoor workout facilities and things like that. So we've lots of opportunities to do exactly what you're talking about

2619
03:42:40,760 --> 03:42:45,580
And I think like some physically visually and physically we're going to be able to fly that connection

2620
03:42:46,680 --> 03:42:50,200
And that kind of leads me into C&D because I think those are the two the same

2621
03:42:50,660 --> 03:42:52,360
when you say what opportunity should be prioritized,

2622
03:42:52,360 --> 03:42:53,360
and what do you want to see, Kema?

2623
03:42:53,760 --> 03:42:57,920
When I see talk about Kema, I want people at 2040 to go,

2624
03:42:57,980 --> 03:42:59,900
man, it's not Christmas, unless you've been to Kema,

2625
03:43:00,360 --> 03:43:01,280
went to the Christmas festival.

2626
03:43:02,000 --> 03:43:04,040
It's not, you didn't have crawfish

2627
03:43:04,040 --> 03:43:05,040
unless you went to the Kema,

2628
03:43:05,360 --> 03:43:06,880
crawfish boiled down there in Gateway Park.

2629
03:43:07,080 --> 03:43:07,400
It's crazy.

2630
03:43:08,080 --> 03:43:09,420
You want to be known for something,

2631
03:43:09,660 --> 03:43:11,240
we're a destination where you have to go

2632
03:43:11,580 --> 03:43:13,720
once or twice a year, but in order for us to do that,

2633
03:43:14,020 --> 03:43:16,280
we've got to make those infrastructure investments.

2634
03:43:16,460 --> 03:43:17,620
We've got to finish Gateway Park.

2635
03:43:17,720 --> 03:43:18,840
We've got to finish the boat, Ram.

2636
03:43:18,840 --> 03:43:22,420
We've got to create that outdoor all-weather space. We've got to

2637
03:43:23,200 --> 03:43:28,140
Create additional parking in downtown. We've got to get rid of the direct parking. We've got to create walking spaces

2638
03:43:28,140 --> 03:43:33,040
We should put a shed over six straight create the people spaces. We want we'll create that vibrancy

2639
03:43:33,040 --> 03:43:34,560
We need but without the infrastructure

2640
03:43:35,340 --> 03:43:38,240
Investments we're be here five years talking the same thing

2641
03:43:38,240 --> 03:43:41,780
Well, Tom, that's the challenge. I mean and you're speaking to it

2642
03:43:41,780 --> 03:43:44,020
It's what do we want to prioritize?

2643
03:43:44,020 --> 03:43:51,060
guys that we're willing to complete and not and that's what you guys have talked

2644
03:43:51,060 --> 03:43:56,920
to. It's like with the change of leadership, there's all these great ideas.

2645
03:43:58,020 --> 03:44:01,260
Well, it's like my media last night. I mean, I was looking for champions. I don't I'll

2646
03:44:01,260 --> 03:44:05,560
back any project if we have a champion on KCDC, but nobody's going to champion a project and

2647
03:44:05,560 --> 03:44:09,700
there's not enough interest in that board for us to even explore that idea. And we can

2648
03:44:09,700 --> 03:44:12,800
We really do think about 850,000 due to loss grants.

2649
03:44:13,000 --> 03:44:14,740
So we have the exact ability.

2650
03:44:14,960 --> 03:44:16,460
If I got a board that's willing to work,

2651
03:44:16,600 --> 03:44:18,220
I want us to put forth that effort.

2652
03:44:18,680 --> 03:44:20,060
Because if you don't have a champion that's down,

2653
03:44:20,300 --> 03:44:21,100
it will never be successful.

2654
03:44:21,600 --> 03:44:23,040
It's just what I've watched it to me, Dom.

2655
03:44:23,640 --> 03:44:24,780
Somebody's got to be responsible.

2656
03:44:25,180 --> 03:44:26,440
The staff's too short.

2657
03:44:26,660 --> 03:44:28,320
They get pulled to ten different directions.

2658
03:44:28,520 --> 03:44:30,600
If somebody's not leading that charge

2659
03:44:30,600 --> 03:44:32,780
and making sure it stays on the rails,

2660
03:44:33,520 --> 03:44:34,280
it never gets done.

2661
03:44:34,380 --> 03:44:36,060
And nothing gets seized or any of the staff,

2662
03:44:36,060 --> 03:44:38,680
it's just they get pulled in 16,000 different directions.

2663
03:44:38,680 --> 03:44:44,080
And somebody's got to keep them, you know, make sure it stays on top of that list, or stays on the list, just put it that way.

2664
03:44:44,640 --> 03:44:46,820
So they keep going the right direction.

2665
03:44:46,840 --> 03:44:53,420
Well prior to COVID, there was a lot of dress shops and gift shops on 6th Street, rather than bars and restaurants.

2666
03:44:54,220 --> 03:44:59,720
And there was a lady that lived her at the time, and she was a champion of Christmas.

2667
03:45:01,700 --> 03:45:09,940
And she made that happen. She organized it, worked hard, but she had a, it wasn't a pub crawl,

2668
03:45:10,100 --> 03:45:14,000
you took something around and got it stamped in each, you know, place got a lot of chocolate

2669
03:45:14,000 --> 03:45:20,800
here and wossled there and whatever. But she drove business to several businesses, you know,

2670
03:45:20,980 --> 03:45:25,420
because you, I don't know, you got your ticket in the drawing at the end and get some great prize or whatever.

2671
03:45:25,420 --> 03:45:29,020
but Christmas and chemo was a huge, huge, huge thing

2672
03:45:29,020 --> 03:45:31,500
because of that one individual predominantly

2673
03:45:31,500 --> 03:45:34,820
and her organization skills and pre-planning.

2674
03:45:35,620 --> 03:45:38,900
But COVID really know that because the teach couldn't stay

2675
03:45:38,900 --> 03:45:41,160
in business and they all became borrowers.

2676
03:45:41,380 --> 03:45:41,480
Right.

2677
03:45:42,100 --> 03:45:44,860
And there's not a family friendly at that point,

2678
03:45:45,200 --> 03:45:46,700
whereas it was before.

2679
03:45:47,420 --> 03:45:48,580
And they're struggling to bring in

2680
03:45:48,580 --> 03:45:50,180
the kind of retailers you're talking about.

2681
03:45:50,500 --> 03:45:52,180
And again, we want better retailers.

2682
03:45:52,420 --> 03:45:53,780
We need a better retail environment.

2683
03:45:53,780 --> 03:45:54,280
I

2684
03:45:57,480 --> 03:46:04,240
think it's that aspect of that area, though, because I bought obvious cars, things, unique

2685
03:46:04,240 --> 03:46:06,580
gifts down there, clothing, everything.

2686
03:46:07,440 --> 03:46:13,240
I was a proponent of shopping clothing, and I don't have that option any more.

2687
03:46:13,520 --> 03:46:13,660
Right.

2688
03:46:15,340 --> 03:46:19,820
Not like we used to, there's many of them, several of them.

2689
03:46:24,450 --> 03:46:32,820
That is a good segue to help us prioritize what are the things we're focusing on in the

2690
03:46:32,820 --> 03:46:34,220
next one to three years.

2691
03:46:35,100 --> 03:46:39,180
I want to mention that we have applied to be an opportunity zone in the 2.0.

2692
03:46:40,020 --> 03:46:42,300
I think that that could drive potential development.

2693
03:46:43,180 --> 03:46:48,380
We've had some preliminary discussions on some facade programming to help some of the businesses along our major corridors.

2694
03:46:49,440 --> 03:46:54,400
Obviously business retention is a very big deal, the economy the way it is right now, something that we're dealing with challenges.

2695
03:46:54,560 --> 03:46:56,480
We want to make sure we retain the businesses that are here.

2696
03:46:57,260 --> 03:47:01,220
Any loss of any business could be detrimental to us because we rely so much on them.

2697
03:47:03,480 --> 03:47:10,580
Brazil and C when it comes to drainage and things of that nature were very focused on finishing a lot of these open projects

2698
03:47:10,580 --> 03:47:24,160
I hate having plans on the shelf. I would be remiss. There's two members that are not here, but they did both send me messages, both Megan and Jacob about their support for certain things, and I'd like to share that if it's possible of what they both said.

2699
03:47:25,320 --> 03:47:31,060
Megan says she's in support of the boat ramp, the schematic design for Gateway Park, which

2700
03:47:31,060 --> 03:47:33,460
is that next step that I was recommended through KCDC last night.

2701
03:47:34,360 --> 03:47:38,320
And any other smaller projects we can tackle this year along with the possibility of six

2702
03:47:38,320 --> 03:47:40,080
street depending on what happens with that situation.

2703
03:47:41,260 --> 03:47:44,060
Jacob talked about walkability in the lighthouse district.

2704
03:47:44,240 --> 03:47:50,680
As you know, we do have, we were funded for that HGAC livable centers grant waiting for the

2705
03:47:50,680 --> 03:47:56,320
last confirmation so we can kind of get that kick started but that's going to

2706
03:47:56,320 --> 03:47:59,940
kind of change that corridor down there and the walkability of that corridor but

2707
03:47:59,940 --> 03:48:02,640
add this to be tied to drainage because in order to add sidewalks we're

2708
03:48:02,640 --> 03:48:06,400
going to have to close some of those drains and curb and gutter and

2709
03:48:06,400 --> 03:48:09,500
print drains and so on and so forth so that might be a little bit challenging but

2710
03:48:09,500 --> 03:48:13,640
that's some of the aspects of what we could add but definitely pro connecting

2711
03:48:13,640 --> 03:48:20,060
hotels small businesses and the boardwalk pro the conference center this

2712
03:48:20,060 --> 03:48:23,840
sports facility, completing 57 Acre Park, Gateway Park.

2713
03:48:24,480 --> 03:48:28,060
Those are priorities and driving more sales tax to feed future projects.

2714
03:48:29,000 --> 03:48:32,380
So those are their two components that I wanted to fill in since you have two members here and

2715
03:48:32,380 --> 03:48:35,040
two members that could not be here, could not make it.

2716
03:48:35,120 --> 03:48:38,740
But as we continue with that opportunity zone, assuming that we're able to be successful,

2717
03:48:38,860 --> 03:48:40,620
that could be a game changer for us.

2718
03:48:42,120 --> 03:48:47,520
Obviously bringing in hotels, we have one hotel that's here now in the possibility of recruiting some others here soon.

2719
03:48:48,200 --> 03:48:56,860
As we mentioned, a lot of folks are coming to Kima, but they're not staying in Kima, so other cities around us are benefiting from that, because they'll come to visit, but they won't stay here.

2720
03:48:57,560 --> 03:49:03,060
So we're looking at that, and Devon tell me with the hotel study, are free that we're going to put out here soon.

2721
03:49:04,180 --> 03:49:09,340
Building on some industry to kind of keep people here during the daytime, beating to that, more of that transient crowd.

2722
03:49:10,680 --> 03:49:12,140
Having priorities in place.

2723
03:49:13,660 --> 03:49:20,900
I've heard more art. I've heard that as a component. It seems to me like we want to be better

2724
03:49:20,900 --> 03:49:26,240
at the things that we are already good at in 2040s when it sounds like we want to be

2725
03:49:26,240 --> 03:49:32,380
better at tourism, we want to be better at being restaurants, better at eco-tourism,

2726
03:49:32,600 --> 03:49:37,340
better at telling the world what we're good at. I think those are the things that we need

2727
03:49:37,340 --> 03:49:43,980
address internally from our end but we need Pied Piper's as well. I think those

2728
03:49:43,980 --> 03:49:46,840
things are going to make us better but the walkability seems to be like the

2729
03:49:46,840 --> 03:49:50,420
biggest component of what we need to do and also priorities the next one to

2730
03:49:50,420 --> 03:49:54,720
three years are going to be closing out some of these projects. I think once we get

2731
03:49:54,720 --> 03:49:57,520
that done and then close them out and then start some of these other ones I think

2732
03:49:57,520 --> 03:49:59,960
and that will be the greatest success from my perspective of what I'm doing.

2733
03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:00,760
Can I see so far?

2734
03:50:02,780 --> 03:50:29,120
But if we could touch a little bit on the community center and the event center component on that just for a second. As far as the potential economic driver, but also community drive, that the entire project could have. The intent is for it to be a community center first. Okay. And could we have marked it better? Yes, so on and so forth. I get it. We do not want to be in the business of operating.

2735
03:50:29,120 --> 03:50:33,000
that building, we're not going to be in the business of operating that building.

2736
03:50:33,460 --> 03:50:38,760
We don't have the capacity to, we don't have the budget to, we don't have it in many capacities.

2737
03:50:39,440 --> 03:50:44,760
The beauty of it is, is of a component that we have now, we can still offer that community center perspective

2738
03:50:46,040 --> 03:50:51,240
without having to pay for it because it'll be paid for through some of the events and so forth that would take place during different times.

2739
03:50:52,080 --> 03:50:57,000
We want to make sure that whatever happens with that, if it does become, if it does come in a version or not.

2740
03:50:57,000 --> 03:51:03,420
But as we know with the eight parcels that we have available, something's going to go in these eight parcels eventually, right?

2741
03:51:03,540 --> 03:51:05,640
Whenever the water situation gets, something's going to go there.

2742
03:51:06,420 --> 03:51:12,140
What that is, if they don't come to us for variance requests, we don't really have a say because we don't have zoning.

2743
03:51:12,940 --> 03:51:15,240
So whatever, not in that part, I'll talk about all the parcels.

2744
03:51:16,120 --> 03:51:23,860
So is zoning something that you want to, you know, you mentioned about putting the two days back into the, thank

2745
03:51:26,230 --> 03:51:28,450
you because it's not, I'm sorry.

2746
03:51:28,450 --> 03:51:31,950
All right, and I heard that I was like, I just got the visual and it was just like, I get it.

2747
03:51:32,270 --> 03:51:32,470
Okay.

2748
03:51:35,350 --> 03:51:36,810
Is that something you want to try to tackle?

2749
03:51:38,010 --> 03:51:41,590
Are we going to try to get into sectors of how we're going to try to get stuff done?

2750
03:51:42,450 --> 03:51:46,930
That's the tail end of what these questions need to be because the boat ramps letting in January.

2751
03:51:48,470 --> 03:51:49,710
57 acre park is rolling.

2752
03:51:51,230 --> 03:51:55,490
Assuming that you guys approved whatever it would be proposed in KCD's budget, this linear

2753
03:51:55,490 --> 03:51:56,430
in person to get started.

2754
03:51:57,350 --> 03:51:59,710
Construction's gonna end at some point on text dot.

2755
03:52:00,770 --> 03:52:02,510
So some of these fighters are, yeah, well,

2756
03:52:02,830 --> 03:52:07,970
maybe not ever end, but it's gonna end eventually

2757
03:52:07,970 --> 03:52:09,930
before it starts again, and there'll be an ending

2758
03:52:09,930 --> 03:52:11,230
before in the beginning, I'm sure.

2759
03:52:17,910 --> 03:52:21,030
It's very likely, but all in all,

2760
03:52:21,710 --> 03:52:23,830
I think that what

2761
03:52:27,800 --> 03:52:30,460
else do we wanna see accomplish

2762
03:52:30,460 --> 03:52:32,540
and driven through this.

2763
03:52:32,720 --> 03:52:34,560
And what should we take to the community next?

2764
03:52:35,320 --> 03:52:38,200
Because right now obviously this group's gonna take what they got from staff

2765
03:52:38,760 --> 03:52:41,140
and staffs, pros, cons, needs, wants.

2766
03:52:41,900 --> 03:52:44,840
We're gonna take your pros, cons, needs, wants,

2767
03:52:45,500 --> 03:52:49,160
and they're gonna encapsulate that from the residents and we're gonna need some help.

2768
03:52:49,420 --> 03:52:52,340
So I think some of you might live in the chemo crossing area.

2769
03:52:53,180 --> 03:52:55,880
I mean, I think we're extremely part kevy for small as we are.

2770
03:52:55,880 --> 03:53:04,460
And how do we consolidate maybe one of the parks into the 57-acre park and not getting rid of any of the amenities, but make it in the 57-acre park

2771
03:53:04,960 --> 03:53:14,280
the flagship of this town because it is a large piece of property. I just don't know why we have some of the parks and the maintenance of all these parks and

2772
03:53:14,280 --> 03:53:21,120
there's a lot to it and we don't do a very good job of maintaining the parks and our budget's not conducive to handle all these parks.

2773
03:53:21,120 --> 03:53:31,580
and KCDC from the get-go has made the commitment to take care of the 57-acre park, so that gets it off the city's back moving forward, so that we're not in the park business.

2774
03:53:32,520 --> 03:53:44,680
I mean, that's just my thoughts and process. I mean, I know people use the other parks, and maybe they're necessary, but I just, I know we're very park heavy.

2775
03:53:44,680 --> 03:53:48,280
and well, you're about to technically add two more

2776
03:53:48,280 --> 03:53:50,540
when you think about the leading or gateway park

2777
03:53:50,540 --> 03:53:51,460
and the boat raft.

2778
03:53:51,580 --> 03:53:53,560
Well, those are different.

2779
03:53:54,380 --> 03:53:56,160
We go back to demographics again, though,

2780
03:53:56,320 --> 03:53:58,440
because we were talking about children

2781
03:53:58,440 --> 03:54:00,020
or we were talking about adult usage.

2782
03:54:00,740 --> 03:54:02,360
So I mean, well, that's what I'm saying,

2783
03:54:02,460 --> 03:54:06,880
but you're talking about the CN Park was a skate park, I think,

2784
03:54:06,960 --> 03:54:10,260
and basketball and tennis was what it originated in this.

2785
03:54:10,800 --> 03:54:12,500
And now we're trying to figure out what that looks like,

2786
03:54:12,500 --> 03:54:14,420
but I'm just saying, is there enough,

2787
03:54:14,600 --> 03:54:17,480
maybe 80% of our population backs up to the 52nd,

2788
03:54:17,580 --> 03:54:20,540
seven in the park, so I mean that park has

2789
03:54:20,540 --> 03:54:22,520
should be the flagship of this town

2790
03:54:22,520 --> 03:54:25,980
and we're trying to make sure that it precedes that way.

2791
03:54:26,140 --> 03:54:30,680
We don't have that many children on this side of 146.

2792
03:54:30,900 --> 03:54:35,260
It tends to be an older population without children.

2793
03:54:35,540 --> 03:54:38,240
Most of the children here are in the new area

2794
03:54:40,380 --> 03:54:45,240
And you have a Stonehenge, I think it's called, and then the part of it.

2795
03:54:45,240 --> 03:54:46,140
Yeah, well that's true.

2796
03:54:46,420 --> 03:54:50,660
Because every 25 or 30 kids get off that bus on 10th Street when I...

2797
03:54:50,660 --> 03:54:55,680
It opens your head in mind when you see something like that, because I think the thing that you do, but no kids.

2798
03:54:55,800 --> 03:54:57,420
I see those kids when school starts.

2799
03:54:57,720 --> 03:54:59,380
Yeah, I just remember, you know.

2800
03:54:59,380 --> 03:54:59,960
It brings up.

2801
03:55:00,430 --> 03:55:08,070
Yes, there's an apartment complex over there. It's older that it's just out of sight out of mind, but there is a lot of kids that live in that apartment complex. Most people don't even know it's there.

2802
03:55:09,610 --> 03:55:17,290
I think that maybe looking at parks, we think of our residents as a microcosm.

2803
03:55:17,830 --> 03:55:19,610
And this is actually a piece of statement.

2804
03:55:20,490 --> 03:55:27,690
I think of one of the residents on and how a resident's taking care of a bigger space

2805
03:55:27,690 --> 03:55:30,170
for the next few years or the day, and things like that.

2806
03:55:30,710 --> 03:55:34,030
I think that's a microcosm of potential big-time tourism.

2807
03:55:34,030 --> 03:55:38,570
And, you know, daytime activities here, and people come here.

2808
03:55:39,290 --> 03:55:44,110
If people come here, they can take advantage of places to do things or things to do.

2809
03:55:45,010 --> 03:55:49,010
If you're in a day or every evening since that time, all these things are the best weather.

2810
03:55:49,830 --> 03:55:53,230
Then, people that could come here will also be there.

2811
03:55:53,310 --> 03:55:56,070
There's still a lot that's kind of a representation.

2812
03:55:57,510 --> 03:56:02,190
And so, you know, you're wondering why you take advantage of these things because it's available

2813
03:56:06,150 --> 03:56:14,470
I think that's going to go along with, sure, I think that's going to go along with the visitor's family, also.

2814
03:56:15,570 --> 03:56:17,810
There are those who can be expressed.

2815
03:56:19,370 --> 03:56:23,650
And that's why I'm going to put in a talk about the rest of my head.

2816
03:56:23,650 --> 03:56:33,250
I think that priority is to be taken care of on residents and things you have first, because that will apply to this issue.

2817
03:56:33,730 --> 03:56:40,610
I think our main priority should be funding extra public works and extra staff.

2818
03:56:41,310 --> 03:56:44,830
I think that should come first for a lot of things that come out there.

2819
03:56:45,510 --> 03:56:50,870
Because I think if that's done for ahead of that, when you get to the point where we are expanding,

2820
03:57:04,690 --> 03:57:10,570
I feel like those things, the public age should be personal problems, because those things

2821
03:57:10,570 --> 03:57:11,130
are appropriate.

2822
03:58:06,720 --> 03:58:10,980
I think you've made a really good point because what you've made me think of is quality

2823
03:58:10,980 --> 03:58:16,900
of life issues, and if you're developing so much for the visitors and then not enough

2824
03:58:16,900 --> 03:58:22,280
for the residents, like the local parts could be more of a quality of life issue versus

2825
03:58:22,280 --> 03:58:27,180
the bigger parts, but what you're saying is the best part of a priority is quality of

2826
03:58:27,180 --> 03:58:33,420
life for residents. It's critical as well as developing these other things. Did I hear

2827
03:58:35,900 --> 03:58:45,340
I think that's been one of the balancing acts we've tried to do is board sitting up here

2828
03:58:45,340 --> 03:58:51,840
for years but all the locals wanted to stay and what all of the visitors wanted to be.

2829
03:58:52,900 --> 03:59:00,560
And for example when I was raising my children the boardwalk went in and they had all that water fountain out in the middle of the

2830
03:59:00,560 --> 03:59:05,420
class. Boy, I took my kids down there all the time. I didn't know it was swimming pool,

2831
03:59:05,620 --> 03:59:11,220
but they run around and get all tired and go home and go night and night. Rest like crazy.

2832
03:59:11,780 --> 03:59:16,520
But I wouldn't get to go down there on a Friday or Saturday, you know. I don't know. Tuesday or

2833
03:59:16,520 --> 03:59:20,280
Wednesday. You wouldn't get to the local and you know none of the visitors were there. I could

2834
03:59:20,280 --> 03:59:26,320
do that. You know. One thing on the eco side that I think don't forget about because it's

2835
03:59:26,320 --> 03:59:31,320
there. It's not talked about much in this town. It's the birding in the 57-acre park.

2836
03:59:33,080 --> 03:59:37,560
I mean, we're residents to some bald eagles now. The Mexican eagles migrate through here.

2837
03:59:38,160 --> 03:59:43,380
There's guys out there with probably 30 or 40,000 throwing cameras out there taking pictures of birds

2838
03:59:43,380 --> 03:59:47,080
that are aware of the park and we're going to leave it as natural as possible because

2839
03:59:47,080 --> 03:59:51,300
we do have a wild life still in this area that's getting pushed out because of building it.

2840
03:59:51,880 --> 03:59:55,260
I mean we're seeing, I'm seeing deer where I've never seen them before in the last couple

2841
03:59:55,260 --> 03:59:58,720
of weeks because it's just the developments that's pushing them out of their home.

2842
03:59:59,400 --> 03:59:59,960
So we're hoping that

2843
04:00:30,000 --> 04:00:36,900
All court and secret capitalized in it, and then right at Pirates Beach, right on down the

2844
04:00:36,900 --> 04:00:44,100
road for Pirates Beach, there's a huge birding park down there. And they have ramps and all

2845
04:00:44,100 --> 04:00:48,940
kinds of things, walk out out and watch for birds and tech pictures of them. I'll get Caesar.

2846
04:00:49,440 --> 04:00:54,420
Do you sell that brochure? Robert Moon. Robert, one of the residents of Chemo just passed away,

2847
04:00:54,420 --> 04:01:00,340
But he made a brochure of all the birds that he he why have one at the house, too

2848
04:01:00,340 --> 04:01:04,540
But he uh, he did an analysis of their detention pond

2849
04:01:04,540 --> 04:01:07,480
Not down the street from me, but it's right back up to the park

2850
04:01:07,480 --> 04:01:12,880
So he has a list of all the most common birds that he had encountered in the area

2851
04:01:12,880 --> 04:01:17,220
So it's got some very unique. I'll get it to you. I'll say I got at the house

2852
04:01:17,220 --> 04:01:22,360
But it was something that was done by a local gentleman and he actually just did a brochure on it and

2853
04:01:22,360 --> 04:01:26,800
But I mean, there's a lot more than just that, that was the most common, I guess, gravitational

2854
04:01:26,800 --> 04:01:27,140
words.

2855
04:01:28,060 --> 04:01:32,800
Transient words, but there's pretty cool words that migrate through here as well.

2856
04:01:33,120 --> 04:01:36,380
So, it's a lot bigger thing than people realize.

2857
04:01:38,200 --> 04:01:44,040
Well, our time has almost come to a close, I'd like to bring this in to finish this discussion

2858
04:01:44,040 --> 04:01:48,660
because obviously this group has a lot to take from these notes, and obviously you guys both

2859
04:01:48,660 --> 04:01:53,220
But both boards play a pivotal role in whatever is going to happen next as they prepare

2860
04:01:54,580 --> 04:02:00,410
Synopsis of this and then look at the stouses of what staff is set and put together and then obviously get community input as

2861
04:02:00,980 --> 04:02:03,460
So what are the things that we need to

2862
04:02:04,200 --> 04:02:08,760
Drive next and what are things that you would like our thoughts are to go to

2863
04:02:08,760 --> 04:02:10,120
chemo ox

2864
04:02:10,760 --> 04:02:11,300
Huntington

2865
04:02:12,240 --> 04:02:13,680
To chemo crossing

2866
04:02:14,340 --> 04:02:18,760
Does any other groups or clusters I mean we don't just challenge this board and

2867
04:02:18,760 --> 04:02:22,520
reaching out to people because like you did the AARP grant last night and I've

2868
04:02:22,520 --> 04:02:26,580
already got you eight contacts run and walked this town on a daily or weekly

2869
04:02:26,580 --> 04:02:31,260
basis for us to start reaching out to people and get their input maybe we need

2870
04:02:31,260 --> 04:02:34,720
people to they keep saying we're not listening to them but you got to show up and

2871
04:02:34,720 --> 04:02:38,560
tell me what you want I can't true imaginary figure out what you want if you don't

2872
04:02:38,560 --> 04:02:41,940
show up and tell us so I would hope that this board would do a really good job

2873
04:02:41,940 --> 04:02:52,860
We're trying to reach out as many people as possible, making them aware, and trying to get as many people in attendance so we can get feedback and get some data that actually people were passionate about, because they get passionate and have problems with you.

2874
04:02:53,820 --> 04:03:05,960
We might be learning something that we didn't know. I had a resident email me out of the blue and say that they thought that we should push for the event center and we should add an ice drink to it.

2875
04:03:05,960 --> 04:03:14,400
I was like, I didn't see that, I didn't think, yeah, there's a big skating market down

2876
04:03:14,400 --> 04:03:16,860
here in an ice cream market and an ice hockey market.

2877
04:03:18,440 --> 04:03:23,220
And then I started doing some research on it and sure enough, there's discussion of

2878
04:03:23,620 --> 04:03:27,020
you know, using getting an NHL team in the future.

2879
04:03:27,180 --> 04:03:31,800
So we talked about extracting pro sports, maybe it's not a pro sport, maybe it's a semi-pro

2880
04:03:31,800 --> 04:03:36,280
or a, you know, a G-League or whatever the G-League is wrong, whatever it is.

2881
04:03:36,420 --> 04:03:40,680
I mean there's a lot of opportunity things for us to do to add to the identity and to

2882
04:03:40,680 --> 04:03:44,420
who we are and again who we want to be when we grow up.

2883
04:03:44,560 --> 04:03:50,380
I want us to think that 2040s when we've grown to the next phase and that that's where we're

2884
04:03:50,380 --> 04:03:51,460
going far ahead.

2885
04:03:51,580 --> 04:03:53,420
A lot of these strap pads are done as five-year plans.

2886
04:03:53,940 --> 04:03:58,340
We wanted to cast a little bit further so we can have more of a run way to get there because

2887
04:03:58,340 --> 04:03:59,300
there's a lot of things right now.

2888
04:03:59,300 --> 04:04:00,140
There's a lot of different ideas.

2889
04:04:00,140 --> 04:04:07,040
And we talked about changes in people and changes in boards and volunteers and people moving and moving away and staff changes and so forth.

2890
04:04:07,280 --> 04:04:09,620
So I think we're heading the right direction.

2891
04:04:10,080 --> 04:04:11,940
This is the direction that I think we needed.

2892
04:04:12,040 --> 04:04:13,920
I think you guys got what you needed on the swimming.

2893
04:04:14,760 --> 04:04:16,860
Did you get the feedback and the other questions you'd like to talk about?

2894
04:04:17,000 --> 04:04:22,320
Just some more details, even in Costa Rica, they did a deal in Cocoa, where I resigned most of the time, hopefully.

2895
04:04:23,160 --> 04:04:29,180
They brought in 30 artists with spray paint artwork and did like entryways and did like seven locations

2896
04:04:29,180 --> 04:04:32,720
where you entered the beach and stuff with the walls and were deteriorating and stuff and

2897
04:04:32,720 --> 04:04:36,540
ended artwork. It's really nice. I'll send you some pictures and try to get some more

2898
04:04:36,540 --> 04:04:41,520
details one down next this next week. That would be great. What you can do is you can bring

2899
04:04:41,520 --> 04:04:47,160
them in. So the artist and the artist. The artist as well as artwork so that people can start

2900
04:04:47,160 --> 04:04:53,200
filling in places that are designated or artwork and give them either a theme or whatever

2901
04:04:53,200 --> 04:04:57,620
the case. It's really nice, honestly. I was kind of surprised actually, but the eye was very nice

2902
04:04:57,620 --> 04:04:59,960
and then they're done for like four or five days, it was...

2903
04:05:00,000 --> 04:05:14,120
I'm going to ask for a free paint norrers, but there's probably 30 of them to have in different groups that were just free painting either side of buildings or side of walls or that they brought a nice bright color to a lot of places where it was just gone and run down and say that it's a little bit.

2904
04:05:14,900 --> 04:05:21,180
I feel north of Carolina two weeks ago and one day my girlfriend who I used to

2905
04:05:21,180 --> 04:05:24,440
ask me where I would do I said I just want to drop right now there is so much

2906
04:05:24,440 --> 04:05:28,840
artwork everywhere in the city there are so many murals and of course I had to go

2907
04:05:28,840 --> 04:05:32,740
to the famous dolly carton mural and take my picture there but I'm being

2908
04:05:32,740 --> 04:05:39,240
almost every other other side of a building had a mural on it I was a man I

2909
04:05:39,240 --> 04:05:40,920
I actually see that only in large towns,

2910
04:05:41,260 --> 04:05:42,920
and I will ask those pretty big,

2911
04:05:43,200 --> 04:05:47,680
but it's very warm and inviting and beautiful, you know.

2912
04:05:48,840 --> 04:05:51,660
We're doing some work, also working with Gordon

2913
04:05:51,660 --> 04:05:53,340
and they're really big

2914
04:05:53,340 --> 04:05:56,020
into the murals on the sides of buildings.

2915
04:05:56,040 --> 04:05:56,800
Yeah, I love it.

2916
04:05:57,160 --> 04:05:57,560
I love it.

2917
04:05:57,760 --> 04:06:01,760
It's like, I don't know, it just makes the...

2918
04:06:01,760 --> 04:06:03,760
You can even, it's almost life-inding.

2919
04:06:04,060 --> 04:06:06,100
You know, the one with a big eagle on it down there.

2920
04:06:06,760 --> 04:06:08,220
Or the, you know, whatever.

2921
04:06:08,220 --> 04:06:10,480
Where is the Walmart? Well, it's over there.

2922
04:06:10,800 --> 04:06:13,560
But it also allows you to introduce some history.

2923
04:06:14,340 --> 04:06:17,440
And to that people can walk around and see.

2924
04:06:17,940 --> 04:06:19,360
I know, and I'll drive behind Walmart.

2925
04:06:19,640 --> 04:06:21,560
I'm just looking at all of that over there.

2926
04:06:21,560 --> 04:06:23,040
I can paint that home.

2927
04:06:23,980 --> 04:06:25,140
I can paint that one.

2928
04:06:26,580 --> 04:06:28,580
So we do have an intern.

2929
04:06:29,300 --> 04:06:34,240
We do have an intern starting Mayor Collins knows, at least Wagner.

2930
04:06:35,000 --> 04:06:37,340
One of the tasks that I gave her that she was super excited about.

2931
04:06:37,340 --> 04:06:44,740
It was more her idea of the mine is she's going to make an inventory of all of the spaces in town that would be suitable for

2932
04:06:44,740 --> 04:06:50,540
murals, sculptures, et cetera. And so we'll have basically an inventory of this would be a great spot for a mural.

2933
04:06:50,700 --> 04:06:58,380
This would be a great spot for a sculpture. This would be a great spot for signage. And that's one of the things that Walmart was what generated that idea.

2934
04:06:59,900 --> 04:07:04,460
And along that line, since we talk about identity, and I don't know if this is a project,

2935
04:07:04,860 --> 04:07:07,540
KCDC, or if we want to do it as a city, or even hot,

2936
04:07:10,460 --> 04:07:13,460
Galveston has the turtles, Dickinson

2937
04:07:13,460 --> 04:07:21,280
has the seagulls, right, or the de pelicans, okay, herons, help me out here, Seabroek has

2938
04:07:21,280 --> 04:07:22,880
the pelicans, and there was one of those.

2939
04:07:23,780 --> 04:07:28,940
do we want to have something? Do we want to be the lighthouses? We want to be

2940
04:07:28,940 --> 04:07:32,940
the sailboats. We want to have something like that that we put in front of the

2941
04:07:32,940 --> 04:07:36,200
businesses because again people will gravitate to say that hey there's a

2942
04:07:36,200 --> 04:07:39,740
sponsorship of that. There's a lot of community service stuff that we're doing

2943
04:07:39,740 --> 04:07:43,000
like the Adopt-A-Tree program, the Adopt-A-Drain program that we're trying to roll

2944
04:07:43,000 --> 04:07:47,660
out. We really want to get more of that sense of community to again get the

2945
04:07:47,660 --> 04:07:52,140
folks, the residents that are living here to get more involved but also to get

2946
04:07:52,140 --> 04:07:56,480
that sense of community and that vibrancy back. So is that something that we want to

2947
04:07:56,480 --> 04:08:00,460
try to tackle in the future, some type of identity project that way? Do we want to think

2948
04:08:00,460 --> 04:08:07,440
of something? You know, is it, could it be many lighthouses in front of different businesses

2949
04:08:07,440 --> 04:08:10,420
or something? I don't know. I don't know if it's lighthouses or something.

2950
04:08:10,420 --> 04:08:18,440
big, huge murals. I think there's more impact for both for that. Yeah, because there's a piece of

2951
04:08:18,440 --> 04:08:24,980
that where if there's you were talking about consistency, if there's even if it's just a piece of

2952
04:08:24,980 --> 04:08:29,920
the artwork or a piece of the science that's consistent from one to the other, then you start seeing

2953
04:08:29,920 --> 04:08:31,500
and that is being one of a whole.

2954
04:08:31,840 --> 04:08:32,640
Yeah, it's a story.

2955
04:08:33,080 --> 04:08:33,200
Yeah.

2956
04:08:34,460 --> 04:08:36,560
There's a thing right over there in the wall.

2957
04:08:37,360 --> 04:08:39,260
That might make a good mural somewhere.

2958
04:08:43,000 --> 04:08:45,580
But what does it have, so votes in my house,

2959
04:08:45,720 --> 04:08:46,920
so could mine a vote together?

2960
04:08:48,520 --> 04:08:48,700
Yeah.

2961
04:08:53,420 --> 04:08:54,140
Yeah, sorry.

2962
04:08:54,380 --> 04:08:55,300
That's one of the things we say.

2963
04:08:55,360 --> 04:08:56,260
It's one o'clock on Wednesday.

2964
04:08:56,460 --> 04:08:57,740
That means that's our test generator.

2965
04:08:58,220 --> 04:08:59,760
That means we are right on time.

2966
04:09:00,620 --> 04:09:01,720
Any closing comments?

2967
04:09:01,720 --> 04:09:19,780
Yeah, if you all think of anything, please let Cesar know and he'll let me know, just so if you think of something later on, because I'm usually that way where I wish I'd say, just let Cesar know so he can pass it on to the gal.

2968
04:09:20,160 --> 04:09:25,220
Can we go around the room, Sean, do you have anything Tom? Do you have anything?

2969
04:09:25,220 --> 04:09:31,580
Oh, hey, obviously, I'm an interest for your guy, that's where I think you build it and they will come and that's really

2970
04:09:31,580 --> 04:09:35,340
We're that's probably the genesis of everything I think about for the city

2971
04:09:36,580 --> 04:09:37,260
Councilman Thorne.

2972
04:09:54,860 --> 04:09:59,860
Thank y'all for your input. This is very exciting to hear all y'all because y'all you can see the excitement here

2973
04:10:04,420 --> 04:10:04,820
All

2974
04:10:09,520 --> 04:10:27,260
right. It is 102. We'll take a break. Uh, these days is here. We'll go into the next segment of the agenda. We'll allow, uh, the folks. Well, no, we're, we're not done yet. We're just taking a potty break while we redo the room. We're done at two. What we might, might not go until two. We're almost done. So,

2975
04:10:29,940 --> 04:10:34,440
yes, there's a whole break from two to three. Right now.

2976
04:10:34,440 --> 04:10:42,100
There's a change over take the stuff down put the markers away and then get ready for the next segment and we'll go for that

2977
04:11:15,770 --> 04:11:17,770
No, this is a break, we're just on a break.

2978
04:11:20,970 --> 04:11:21,330
Yes?

2979
04:11:26,850 --> 04:11:27,210
Okay.

2980
04:11:34,210 --> 04:11:35,170
She's so cute.

2981
04:11:35,170 --> 04:11:35,930
I don't know.

2982
04:11:37,890 --> 04:11:38,930
Like, in.

2983
04:11:40,250 --> 04:11:40,770
Yeah.

2984
04:11:41,250 --> 04:11:41,590
We.

2985
04:11:42,230 --> 04:11:43,890
We got a clear question as to well.

2986
04:11:44,410 --> 04:11:44,950
Yes, wanted.

2987
04:11:45,750 --> 04:11:50,150
Uh, there's some, some homework we got to do on it before final presentation.

2988
04:11:51,010 --> 04:11:51,050
Okay.

2989
04:11:52,670 --> 04:11:53,190
What.

2990
04:11:53,550 --> 04:11:54,070
What.

2991
04:11:54,210 --> 04:11:54,850
What did you do?

2992
04:11:55,290 --> 04:11:56,150
Uh, rupture.

2993
04:11:56,250 --> 04:11:56,530
What's up?

2994
04:12:00,400 --> 04:12:01,160
I'll know.

2995
04:12:01,820 --> 04:12:02,800
Hopefully by tomorrow.

2996
04:12:03,640 --> 04:12:04,980
But I know for sure.

2997
04:12:04,980 --> 04:12:07,260
I just don't know if that's all the damage.

2998
04:12:07,460 --> 04:12:08,700
I don't think that's all the damage.

2999
04:12:08,900 --> 04:12:10,180
It hurts too much to just be that.

3000
04:12:11,620 --> 04:12:13,200
I know it's surgery in six weeks.

3001
04:12:14,120 --> 04:12:16,000
Keep it my legs great, but I know for a five.

3002
04:12:17,260 --> 04:12:18,500
I don't know the rest.

3003
04:12:19,720 --> 04:12:20,780
Tsu-Tsu did all the rest.

3004
04:12:21,080 --> 04:12:21,560
Good luck.

3005
04:12:21,880 --> 04:12:22,140
Thanks.

3006
04:12:22,880 --> 04:12:23,300
How are you?

3007
04:12:24,420 --> 04:12:25,300
Thank you very much.

3008
04:12:25,400 --> 04:12:26,180
I can't sit for too long.

3009
04:12:26,520 --> 04:12:27,360
Thank you.

3010
04:12:27,560 --> 04:12:27,820
Thank you.

3011
04:12:27,860 --> 04:12:29,220
Thank you very much for your time.

3012
04:12:29,540 --> 04:12:29,780
Thank you.

3013
04:12:29,880 --> 04:12:30,120
Thank you.

3014
04:12:30,280 --> 04:12:31,780
I've been through two left NACLs.

3015
04:12:31,860 --> 04:12:32,320
You'll be all right.

3016
04:12:32,560 --> 04:12:32,940
Yeah, no.

3017
04:12:32,940 --> 04:12:37,440
I know this so I've had two ACLs, I've had two ACLs.

3018
04:12:37,440 --> 04:12:40,560
Yeah, I'm ready for it.

3019
04:12:41,680 --> 04:12:42,480
We're going to have some fun.

3020
04:12:42,700 --> 04:12:43,560
Yeah, I'm excited about this.

3021
04:12:43,960 --> 04:12:44,760
It's going to be great.

3022
04:12:46,980 --> 04:12:49,220
You too.

3023
04:12:49,580 --> 04:12:50,120
Thank you all for coming.

3024
04:12:51,460 --> 04:12:52,240
Appreciate you.

3025
04:12:56,300 --> 04:12:57,380
Yeah, I don't know.

3026
04:12:57,600 --> 04:12:58,160
I don't know you.

3027
04:12:59,280 --> 04:13:00,060
Last Sunday.

3028
04:13:05,260 --> 04:13:10,800
Yes, yes, for sure appreciate that. Thank you

3029
04:13:37,160 --> 04:13:42,820
Can you try to show how to take that tape back to the house?

3030
04:13:43,580 --> 04:13:44,600
What else should we do?

3031
04:15:04,440 --> 04:15:21,440
I've been in the city for just being like, okay, if you know you've got growth this year,

3032
04:15:21,440 --> 04:15:26,340
You're going to have to build out why are you not saving money like it's a return

3033
04:15:27,800 --> 04:15:29,560
You're going to stop making money at some point

3034
04:16:09,670 --> 04:16:12,770
Yeah, I give it about an hour and a half, maybe it might even already be out.

3035
04:16:15,310 --> 04:16:15,630
Yeah.

3036
04:16:21,070 --> 04:16:21,710
Thank you.

3037
04:16:50,660 --> 04:16:53,120
I'm going to catch a pull it up.

3038
04:16:54,120 --> 04:16:54,720
Oh, really?

3039
04:16:55,220 --> 04:16:55,920
Districts, obviously.

3040
04:16:58,500 --> 04:16:59,580
Well, they've already showed up.

3041
04:16:59,880 --> 04:17:00,640
We'll go to the other side.

3042
04:17:00,940 --> 04:17:01,400
Oh, here's the other side.

3043
04:17:01,900 --> 04:17:04,840
Make sure it's close to the key.

3044
04:17:04,840 --> 04:17:04,920
How many?

3045
04:17:43,100 --> 04:17:44,860
and you're all day doesn't matter, so yeah.

3046
04:17:55,040 --> 04:17:56,840
The only thing that we're doing is for one

3047
04:17:56,840 --> 04:17:57,960
of the quarterly lifting

3048
04:18:07,690 --> 04:18:08,350
sometimes.

3049
04:18:13,810 --> 04:18:13,950
Yeah.

3050
04:18:15,250 --> 04:18:15,730
Oh,

3051
04:18:25,040 --> 04:18:25,780
soft target risk?

3052
04:18:26,200 --> 04:18:26,320
Woo.

3053
04:18:32,360 --> 04:18:34,620
Yeah, I can tell you the abundance

3054
04:18:34,620 --> 04:18:37,960
of emergency management calls that I'm on,

3055
04:18:38,480 --> 04:18:40,240
that it's just, it's scary.

3056
04:18:41,080 --> 04:18:41,820
Like, almost daily.

3057
04:18:44,780 --> 04:18:47,840
It is almost daily, the risk that we're under.

3058
04:18:51,750 --> 04:18:52,430
It's an ice state.

3059
04:18:53,350 --> 04:19:00,630
I am not ever going into an ice skating rink, I'm probably never going to touch a ball of any size again in my life, don't worry, don't worry.

3060
04:19:23,030 --> 04:19:24,310
and that's what you're doing.

3061
04:19:24,550 --> 04:19:25,890
Yes, yes, yes and how do you...

3062
04:19:25,890 --> 04:19:28,490
Well, all health is directly related to hard health.

3063
04:19:29,610 --> 04:19:31,890
So, no, no, no, no.

3064
04:19:34,170 --> 04:19:34,650
That's a good thing.

3065
04:19:34,650 --> 04:19:34,830
Yeah.

3066
04:19:35,050 --> 04:19:36,510
The world is, I have a nervous show.

3067
04:19:36,810 --> 04:19:37,170
I have a nervous show.

3068
04:19:37,170 --> 04:19:37,970
That's what you're getting.

3069
04:19:38,510 --> 04:19:38,990
Yeah.

3070
04:19:39,730 --> 04:19:39,750
Yeah.

3071
04:19:39,750 --> 04:19:40,070
Yeah.

3072
04:19:40,070 --> 04:19:40,930
Do you know what you're getting?

3073
04:19:41,510 --> 04:19:42,030
I don't know what you're getting.

3074
04:19:42,030 --> 04:19:43,090
What you're getting?

3075
04:25:44,340 --> 04:25:54,680
It's only because the next item we have would be some executive session discussion, but I understand, Councilmember Thorne, you wanted to mention something before we continued? Yeah, point of order.

3076
04:25:57,460 --> 04:26:14,900
I solve this item. And I ask in a kind of written opinion from the city attorney. The attorney informed me that only the mayor or her designated can make a written ask for written opinion.

3077
04:26:14,900 --> 04:26:29,320
So, I allege that the notice on this agenda does not satisfy the subject matter notice requirements of the Texas Open Media Act given that it identifies only the statutory exceptions.

3078
04:26:31,200 --> 04:26:40,920
551-071 but does not identify the specific legal matters dispute or subject on which

3079
04:26:40,920 --> 04:26:45,460
the council will be consulting with this item.

3080
04:26:46,020 --> 04:26:54,220
In addition, I have reviewed Texas Open Meetings Act as well as Attorney General Ken Paxson

3081
04:26:55,580 --> 04:27:05,620
and zero, four, seven, dated October 2nd, 2024 and as such, I alleged that to go into

3082
04:27:05,620 --> 04:27:12,900
executive session on this unnamed topic and general's topic that is addressed in the

3083
04:27:12,900 --> 04:27:21,600
Attorney General Paxton's opinion is of I alleged is a violation of penal code so

3084
04:27:24,260 --> 04:27:24,540
I will

3085
04:27:24,540 --> 04:27:30,580
not be attending the executive session and I would like the secretary to so note that in the

3086
04:27:30,580 --> 04:27:37,420
official minutes. Thank you. And so I would just like to make a comment. The executive

3087
04:27:37,420 --> 04:27:41,900
session is properly noticed. The subject matter is protected under the attorney client privilege

3088
04:27:42,480 --> 04:27:47,920
and so it is properly noticed. However, you do, you can not attend and we can still hold the

3089
04:27:47,920 --> 04:27:57,640
And I still make my assertion and I ask for a ruling from the chair, because I need to follow the procedure.

3090
04:27:58,500 --> 04:28:01,600
I made a point of order so I need a ruling from the chair.

3091
04:28:07,460 --> 04:28:10,460
We got an executive session on this with Nelson.

3092
04:28:11,000 --> 04:28:15,960
The one that we have right now under for a, is your consultation with attorney as part of the retreat.

3093
04:28:16,700 --> 04:28:21,960
And one of the things that's been asked and we've had kind of normal custom is a quarterly legal update.

3094
04:28:21,960 --> 04:28:25,600
I believe the last one we had was in April, so I think we're behind a month.

3095
04:28:26,540 --> 04:28:32,860
So we wanted to have that in conjunction to provide an update to the council on any legal matters that are going on.

3096
04:28:33,300 --> 04:28:34,520
It's a very brief update.

3097
04:28:35,200 --> 04:28:38,840
It is this board's decision whether you want to have that or not.

3098
04:28:39,540 --> 04:28:44,200
But we started that custom caretaker about a year, year and a quarter ago after I started.

3099
04:28:44,600 --> 04:28:47,600
If you'd like to have that update, we're ready to provide it.

3100
04:28:47,600 --> 04:28:51,880
Should we sort in a suite if not, we understand Ms. Dages here to provide that for you.

3101
04:28:52,740 --> 04:28:54,380
May I ask the question?

3102
04:28:55,240 --> 04:28:56,600
Well, point of order is not debatable.

3103
04:28:58,060 --> 04:28:59,460
No, but you can ask the question.

3104
04:28:59,880 --> 04:29:07,100
Can I ask why in the topic it didn't say quarterly legal update?

3105
04:29:07,720 --> 04:29:08,220
Well, because-

3106
04:29:08,220 --> 04:29:12,880
Because there's a section in the agenda, because not only is this for our benefit,

3107
04:29:15,740 --> 04:29:16,040
it's for

3108
04:29:16,040 --> 04:29:21,120
And they may be online, even now, want to know, well, what was this executive session?

3109
04:29:21,520 --> 04:29:31,560
And it did not have an opportunity to make written comments, to make comments online,

3110
04:29:31,720 --> 04:29:34,420
or to physically come here and court it again.

3111
04:29:35,200 --> 04:29:40,320
So I can only say that under the advisement of how we posted the agendas and how we've done this in the past.

3112
04:29:40,320 --> 04:29:42,780
that's posted no differently than it has been before.

3113
04:29:43,360 --> 04:29:49,900
You heard from our city attorney that this is how we posted it and we are within our rights

3114
04:29:49,900 --> 04:29:51,060
as to continue to have a meeting.

3115
04:29:51,620 --> 04:29:56,380
It would not have been posted in any other way because listing quarterly legal update is not

3116
04:29:56,380 --> 04:29:58,460
something that would have been up there usually.

3117
04:29:59,060 --> 04:29:59,960
So it's usually-

3118
04:30:00,480 --> 04:30:29,980
The last meeting we had, open meetings, a situation where you had a question about my situation or appointment or employment or whatever the case is. So there's four different categories in which we can go under executive session. After review, this qualifies as one of them. But again, it's this body's will whether you want to or not. We're here to provide a quarterly update. I promise you I would do it as close to quarterly as possible. I felt this form with the long day that we had if we could get it done before the budget workshop would be

3119
04:30:29,980 --> 04:30:36,340
appropriate, but if not then it is, it is your will. Or in this case mayor, your will to

3120
04:30:36,340 --> 04:30:36,720
hang away.

3121
04:30:38,770 --> 04:30:40,630
That's why it's that? That's why?

3122
04:30:45,900 --> 04:30:51,700
Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm making a appeal. I make a appeal of the mayor's

3123
04:30:51,700 --> 04:30:54,660
room. Again, I'm just following procedure to the council.

3124
04:31:09,530 --> 04:31:11,430
I can't vote because I need you

3125
04:31:11,430 --> 04:31:18,110
where I can vote on it because we raise it because we raise it. Yes, absolutely. Thank you.

3126
04:31:18,110 --> 04:31:19,370
Thank you. Thank you for

3127
04:31:19,370 --> 04:31:20,930
appreciate the following procedure.

3128
04:31:21,110 --> 04:31:21,270
Roger.

3129
04:31:25,580 --> 04:31:26,180
Yes.

3130
04:31:29,100 --> 04:31:31,060
Do we need our members?

3131
04:31:31,540 --> 04:31:31,640
No.

3132
04:31:53,260 --> 04:31:53,560
Sorry.

3133
04:31:55,300 --> 04:31:59,000
I found out that it was really low, but I

3134
04:32:01,470 --> 04:32:02,570
didn't really see it.

3135
04:32:03,970 --> 04:32:06,390
I told you where you got crossed by an animal.

3136
04:32:06,910 --> 04:32:07,050
Yeah.

3137
04:32:07,730 --> 04:32:09,550
My little one didn't like to see what it did.

3138
04:32:09,990 --> 04:32:10,710
It was good.

3139
04:32:11,130 --> 04:32:12,070
It was good.

3140
04:32:12,390 --> 04:32:12,890
It was good.

3141
04:32:13,110 --> 04:32:13,770
It was good.

3142
04:32:13,770 --> 04:32:15,050
It was good.

3143
04:32:15,250 --> 04:32:15,710
It was good.

3144
05:05:00,000 --> 05:05:10,420
On the left one, I had the meniscus operator on that dislocated kneecap, cracked kneecap on the other name.

3145
05:05:13,080 --> 05:05:13,780
Definitely.

3146
05:05:18,780 --> 05:05:20,960
I also had a partially torn patella.