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Okay. Can I go ahead and start? We're going to call to order the regular meeting of the KCDC, March 18th, 2025 at 6 p.m., item number two, invitation to address the board. There's nobody signed up. Item number three, proclamations, presentations, awards and community spotlight. Presentation by Tony Bill of Kima Living Magazine. I don't think he's set up to present.

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So we'll skip number three for now and it is an item so we can talk about when we get to that item.

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Number four, board member of comments and announcements concerning items of community interest.

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No actions will be taken.

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Mr. Williamson, you first.

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I'll push your button.

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Just happy to be here.

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I'm looking forward to learning from you guys.

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Thank you.

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Jackie, push your button.

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Do you have any mind?

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Likewise, I'm happy to be here looking forward to learning and contributing to the community.

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Fantastic.

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No comments for you.

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No comments?

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Well, actually, I would like to welcome our two board members on here, so thank you.

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Very nice to see you guys looking forward to working with you.

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Thank you.

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And the other board members aren't here, so move on to number five.

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President's comments and announcements, that's me.

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I'll just echo everybody welcome.

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I said this in council that I felt like we're really, this board is really growing.

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We used to be a board where, you know, we're just lucky to get somebody.

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It didn't matter, you know, and just don't go more on body, but now we get more and more candidates

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because the political climate here is so much more welcoming and everybody wants to contribute and we have a big

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new community that you guys are part of, human crossing, and I think it's really good to get more people up here to help out and move things

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forward. It's a welcome, you guys. I'm really eager and excited. I have a lot of excited things going on. My general statement about KCDC is as a council member, I can tell you that on council,

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So it's very difficult and most labor-intensive to move things forward, just because there's

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so much we deal with so much in the given day.

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The advantage of KCDC is, on KCDC we talk about an item, we budget it and we execute it.

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It's really a lot cleaner and easier to do.

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So you can accomplish a lot on this board as we have in the last couple years.

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Some things that we've done in the past couple of years is the Anders, Epigrain Memorial Park

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Way, the Nature Facility.

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We, although the Mutual Park was funded through hot plants, we did have a big part in helping that design that.

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I mean, we're involved in a lot, bringing businesses in, I mean, it's, it's really, it's a fun thing to do, I think, so.

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Welcome, hopefully we can all contribute to making the city better.

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Number six, the City Administrator Report.

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That would be Mr. Cesar in the first scene.

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Thank you very much. Just quickly going through.

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In front of you, you have your draft of what will be our pre-development meeting request form.

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We've been in a lot of folks that are calling and requesting pre-development meetings for

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any expansion to their business or new business inquiries.

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This gives us the opportunity to unite all the disciplines and not have to have folks going from one department to another.

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In this case, we give this out to the prospective developer to review.

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They submit this item. We have already a good idea of what they're going to do depending on what they submit

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So that when they get to us, we're not just kicking around tired

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We're actually able to meet with them with everybody all at one time whether virtual or in person

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We can share a screen go over plans go over questions answer all their questions prior to their actual submission

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Something that we put together to start distributing to everybody

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This is a final draft. It's already gone through internal review. We want to start

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distributing this, but we wanted to make sure that you guys were aware of what we were doing, so if there's any final comments, we'd like to have them by the end of the week so we have this active starting next week if possible.

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That includes that item.

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Also, I want to include just for the month of February, whatever reports include, we had a total of 47 permits submitted.

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total amount of payments collected for permitting were $27,483 for total added value to the city of $12,620,000 that have been submitted for the month of February.

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Those are a combination of residential and commercial.

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Also on that note, just want to comment, Lupin Torchia is already kicking, we are set to have the actual ribbon cutting here very soon.

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but Alberto's coconut grove and actually little seizures are not that far

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behind I went over to little seizures today met with them they are getting some

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of the electrical work done so we are moving along with all those projects

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all at one time. Any questions from the board?

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Where's little seizures going to be? Little seizures is over there next to Leslie's

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pool place. I guess there used to be a phone shop or something there.

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I'm not sure if it's for maybe okay me yeah well it's it's it's in the same

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shopping center as where Walmart is but it's out towards the front so Leslie

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pulls right there right right next to the vapor actually right next to it you

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know I might add something to that our balance in the back right now three point three

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million dollars and we're running a rate about a hundred twenty thousand dollars

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not the revenue coming in. And so we'll have another million dollars just come in. Right now,

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our biggest commitment is to the 57-acre park, but we have a lot of other projects that we can do

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because we have the financing to the funding and we're able to do those projects. So we have to

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select what we want to do. And then of course, we're limited by what the PDCs can do, but we can certainly

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we can make a big hit down here. Of course, we're going to be doing a lot of stuff, hopefully,

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down in the lighthouse district it's going to use a lot of it at some point and it's under

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the freeway thing that we're talking about that they have to do the textiles. I'm going to

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pick it all up so we may learn this and some of that as we kind of want to be.

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You said, you think they're going to pay for all of it?

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Well, we'll have it again by the way.

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They don't want out of stuff that they'll do, but we're going to probably want the more bells

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and whistles on their understandings.

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That what you think, they're not going to build a big gateway side for us.

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You know, they're going to put in little plants that we may want different kinds of plants.

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And they have standards that they'll do and they might have a little flexibility that they have a kind of a good and good deal is what we've been told.

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And so if we want to go above those standards and we can invest in our show.

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But there they're not going to be putting in pickleball courts or stuff on the freeway for us like we'd like to see.

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Anything else? Any questions, anything that's happening?

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On this pre-development meeting request application, I think this is a great thing.

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I work in a lot of cities through my personal business. And this is something that I request

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anytime I'll work in a new city area. I do a new build. It's nice to be able to go talk

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to the city. One of the questions I come in about working in a new city is, you know, what's

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highest I've used or what can we do with this land and these are the kind of music that we

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should be a big part of this. You know, we don't have zoning. So we should be a big part

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to try to help the lower end of the business that we won here.

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We're only two square miles, so it's nice to have it.

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All right, thanks for that report.

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Number seven, KCDC Executive Director Report.

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Ron, you got anything else?

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No, that's kind of what I have to offer.

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OK, number eight, consent agenda.

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That would be eight A and eight B.

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We're just approving the financials from February

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and approval of the minutes.

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I know that some of you guys might not have been here,

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but hopefully you've had an opportunity

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We do need to read them over.

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We do need to go ahead and try to make a wrap this up.

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So I'll start it off.

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I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda, A and A, B.

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A second.

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All right, we've got a first and a second.

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Isaac, Saldani, and Sean Williamson.

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All those in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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You know this.

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Thank you.

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Here comes Ray.

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We'll just wait on her to say aye.

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Thank you, ma'am.

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We weren't going to start without you.

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right, number nine, nine A consideration and possible action on approving highway 146 linear park design.

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Before we get off into that too much, board

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member does an all over e-mail about the opinions on some of these items.

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and Susan did you want to read them or do you want to handle that or do you want to handle that or does it matter?

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I can go ahead and handle it with

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my printout.

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But before you do, let's just talk about it for a minute, sure.

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So give us a little history on this and how it can be and what we're actually looking at here.

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Certainly. My understanding, again, this was most of this project predationally,

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The idea is that tech thought is willing to take care of a majority of the construction

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as Ronnie mentioned, depending on exactly what is all included in our design as part

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of finishing the 146 flyover.

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The concept that I believe the city has integrated is to make it into a linear park that lives

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underneath the actual overpass.

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With that, the next phase would be to get some type of conceptual design put together that

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that we could then send to TechSot and get their approval,

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yay-nay, of what they will do and then the rest

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we would possibly have to be responsible for.

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The entire idea of the concept would be,

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hopefully, that they'll do the good majority of it,

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depending on what it is that we put together.

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But the idea here is to put together that plan

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as part of this proposal that sits before you tonight.

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It'll also form a good basis for us to seek grants, too,

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to determine that.

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Well, so speaking of that,

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we already have a grant for design work.

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planning, yeah, for the same area.

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So with that, not thinking of this?

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Well, I talked to Peter call, I might him aware of that.

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You talked about the last two years.

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We talked about the emergency board members.

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You want to bring in kind of what that is?

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You know, we applied for a livable centers study

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to Houston, Galveston area county.

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They used transportation funds to do planning.

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And they picked certain cities and we applied.

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And we were one that was accepted.

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And Caesar has been involved with these in the mark.

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So he's very familiar with it too.

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And what they're going to do, and in 26, there were 13, 14, 15 different cities are units

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that got these.

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So they have two people up there that work on it.

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So we got kind of 26 is when they're going to start on ours.

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And it's a $200,000 planning study, and we're 20% will be funded by us or $40,000.

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And for that, they're going to come down here and look at our lighthouse district, the area

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that we have identified before that we would like to make more connected with more landscaping

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and any cap accessibility and that kind of stuff and they're also going to look at that

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area under the bridge. Now when they get here and start doing it we may be able to influence

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them one way or the other if we want to put more of their study over there but this is what

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has been approved and then we won't get the results of this until 27 and so going forward

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I think with this in my opinion would be a good idea because this is going to be primarily

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I think it's going to turn out to be landscaping don't you see it would be I don't think what

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they're going to do is going to be more amphitheater you know skating ring under the bridge under

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the bridge they'll come up they'll take the master park we have a master if you haven't looked

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at the master park plan you need to go back to that and look at some of the ideas under that

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master park plan that they've come up with but a lot of stuff under there could be like a whole

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little city under there with food trucks and restaurants and it could be it's

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unlimited what could be under their all the way from actually and if you look

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at their drawing that they gave us they're not even covering the part that

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goes to the water they're just doing the part from forestry down to 96 so the

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part that this study we could include that area because we think that possibly

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we want we got the boat launch going in and we got the we might want a public

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fishing area down there on the channel and some other things.

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So there's a lot of moving parts.

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Can you give me a little bit of a timeline of where,

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like what is the importance of getting this done now as opposed to,

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do we have time to kind of go over it more in detail,

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or is there a deadline that we're trying to meet on this?

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So the text has been waiting on apparently this landscape design

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or something that we submit to them for quite a while.

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They've been ready to have this so they can construct it pretty quickly.

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Now that it's over, I feel that it's imperative.

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If you notice on the map as well that Ms. Natasha just had on the screen there.

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The map shows you what the area is, it is not taking a consideration too much of the

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area that Ronnie was mentioning that it includes a boat wrap and so forth.

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So it takes you along 146 all the way from 96 all the way to where the base would be close

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to where the boat wrap would live.

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So that entire space is what is incorporated as part of this project in this linear park

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design.

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So, it's to exist adjacent to or beneath the actual flyover.

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Okay.

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Go ahead.

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Well, is there any sort of baseline that we can figure out what textile will do?

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Because, you know, we can plan whatever we want, but we kind of need to know what our parts are going to be.

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If we know text dots this much and then we know that we're working with this much, we can kind of budget about this.

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Yeah, beauty of it is since LJA is who submitted this proposal for your view tonight.

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They have worked with text out in the past and they do know what they will and will not

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actually approve.

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So, the idea is to go along those lines of what we could do there.

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Obviously, the maintenance component of it is a large component that we need to consider

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in whatever design goes into place.

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but whether you're going to line it with benches, crosswalks, any type of decorative planting, lighting, whatever would be, this is the time to put some of those things in.

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You see over in seabrook, they've used a lot of rocks and stuff over there under their bridge. You can see it looks totally different.

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We come over here, we've got grass, they've got...

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Well, this year we're going to give us the basic of one round.

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To give it a little hissing on.

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Any new folks? We did a master park plan. It was a 20. Adopted, I believe, in 22. Okay. And what we did was we had them come in and did some city surveys. And, and they went to go ahead. Correction. Adopted in 24. Sorry, didn't work for a long time. Right. Yeah. And so they did some surveys. They came out the park. They did some in person online stuff. And they've been expanded out of the area just to kind of what are we to be part of that with the nature facility.

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all the other parks, we have the pocket parks, and the main idea was to connect and to

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make chema more walkable. That's kind of this place, so if you go for like basically

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from Lupita or Diaz or Yal's neighborhood, all the way to the entrance to Sixth Street,

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to the crosswalk at Sixth Street, and that's what that's about. And, and under it, there

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would be a thing, according to their plan, there would be things like, you know, pickle

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the block board or whatever they have on there.

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So the most space is where you have the power lines

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along the body apartments coming off of 146.

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Correct, and that's what they're showing you.

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What they can actually do with that,

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you know, they're gonna do some more design work on that.

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That's what the partner of this study's in it.

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Yeah, one thing I know I would say,

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and I did talk to Dustin about this earlier,

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and I'm not gonna speak for him,

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but I am in agreeing with him in that,

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and if we actually actually have Richard here,

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but I can speak a lot through that.

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The more stuff we put out there, the more the full of work has to take it up.

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And so at some point, we have too much stuff for them to take care of the amounts with

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you.

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Now, it is, I believe, part of our job on the case of DC that whatever we put down, we

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should be responsible for maintaining it.

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So maybe at some point that looks like adding some public works person that we pay for that

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just strictly in charge of that thing to take care of parks.

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We're not there yet.

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I think we do need to establish that ahead of time, that way we know whatever we're doing

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doesn't exceed that person's capability and or the worship ability. But what I would say

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is if we have a little bit more time and we right now we meet once a month we just have

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to have capability to call special meetings if we have to be able to wrap up many things up.

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I would highly recommend that we appoint a couple of our board members to work directly with you

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and LJA and decide what it is that we exactly went out there before we actually put them to work on it.

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Certainly.

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And whoever, as a committee, you choose to have a partnership of this proposal, we would

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go over the Parks Master Plan that already exists as to what the preliminary was, because

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that did have a lot of public input and then feed off of that.

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Right.

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I have a general question.

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Right.

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I didn't hear up to you.

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So.

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I'll just talk forever.

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No.

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That's okay.

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Me too.

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So in terms of, I guess, how the flow of things are, and this may be something that's been

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answered a million times and I'm just ignorant of it. So looking at this and looking at what

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I think we're trying to do with this and it's going to happen it seems like. So I know

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in Seabrook's larger trail parks that they have, not the one under the bridge but you know

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they have the larger trail park in there. I mean you should live over there and one of the

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things that I thought was kind of kind of janky about that was there wasn't really a set

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point to be at. And so you would go to the baseball fields, there was a small parking lot,

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and then all of a sudden, the small parking lot was always full on the holidays and on

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the weekends, and so that it would bleed into things, it would almost bleed into Tukki

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sometimes. Here, I think we're talking about kind of something like that, you know, there's

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a local place for people to run and to walk and to bike, but also we're going to have people

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coming in to the boardwalk for things, and then like all of a sudden, hey, there's this

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giant park system under there, let's go walk on it. Where in this maybe something started

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been answered, where is going to be the idea that the flow of traffic is going to end up

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and park necessarily because everybody's not going to be biking to there. There are people

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are going to come there to walk and run just like they do in a 57 acre park a lot of times.

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Is there a set places in there? As this is the idea, they're going to park wherever they

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can or maybe they're walking the boardwalk and he's not going to be possible but I think it's

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multi purpose.

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It's connectivity. Yeah so part of that we'll connect by the side wall to the

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nature side of the tree. Part of that we'll connect to Walmart, part of that big YouTube target.

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So like say, 4th of July. If you've been in Kima on the 4th of July, you see the people

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park at the Walmart and they walk in droves across 146. Well this is going to offer them a very nice

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You can walk, this will connect the sidewalks all the way out by 18, and they can create

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a loop.

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My assumption is that there's going to be a large flow of people when the boardwalk's

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busy going from the boardwalk, parking places, city parking to this area, then down and

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vice versa.

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Is there another, is there going to be another hub that's going to be available, people

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people who may not be going to the boardwalk, I mean, you could go park a small shack, sure,

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but is there a general plan for that?

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You have a couple items that are actually going to help mention that question within

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today's agenda, but the idea, as was mentioned, is to develop a connected system, right?

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Right.

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It takes you from Foster to Wiggins Park, to the boardwalk, to one of the parks that we're

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talking about here today, the 57-acre park, or the linear park itself is an actual park.

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So there will be hubs and stops or like we would call trail heads, that would allow you to go and park your bike at a certain spot and enjoy that if it's a water garden or a butterfly garden, whatever.

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So there will be certain hubs and part of that is going to be entered through the connectivity setting that we're doing that kicks off in 2026 that would tie all that in.

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Well, that was kind of my thought was if that's something we need to figure out now then absolutely this has to be done quickly so we can start that process correct because the

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hub issue could really make a break that size of the party that's big.

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You're not going to get too much for $12,000.

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Yeah, so.

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I don't think that's part of this conversation, right?

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So it's like if we designate a couple of board members to take part of this conversation and you approve this, you're doing that as you go and then you protect us for approval.

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Absolutely.

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And I'm just going to go and say, OK, this is what it's going to be.

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Because some of the stuff they want to do, I also don't agree with.

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I thought it does in a day-end issue with pickleball court, but I think I also don't think

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a pickleball court under the elevated highway wouldn't be the best thing to use of that.

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But certainly spots you can stop at with benches or something that's attractive with flowers

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or landscaping would be nice.

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Well, look, I don't want to get used fast.

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I think that's really nice to drive a golf cart down there.

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I don't want to get my first argument with you about pickleball courts, but strongly disagree.

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I think chemo could use some pickle bar courts. They're so popular.

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I think we should have them just not there. I think a great place for pickle bar court would be a foster park.

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How about every park we have pickle bar? We will be the pickle bar capital.

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I've never seen you pull a pickle bar. We're not talking about meat, okay?

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Just what the record looks like that Wiggins Park has four pickle is outlined for four pickle bar courts.

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And we will address that later on the agenda.

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Nice. So do you need, do you need us to vote to agree on this $12,000 for this issue?

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He's got more.

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I'm sorry.

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So you brought up a good point on the process, and we've obviously done some of these

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planning issues before.

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So we'll look at this linear part.

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Obviously the first thing we've got to figure out is what's the baseline, right?

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What does tech stop prepared to do?

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What does that give us options to do?

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It kind of gives us a little bit of direction.

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Now in here it shows that LJ is meeting with us one time to refine scope and project expectations.

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My thought is it's kind of a multi, a little bit more of a multi-face process.

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I think we need to sit down with LGA, we need to figure out where baseline is, then we've

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got to internally decide what we want on the space, just as the conversation was starting

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here.

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It's obviously it's a people mover area and it's a people containment area.

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And so, you know, we got to figure out how to utilize that in a multi-function way, not

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just one activity or anything but be able to put all that together.

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So, the real question here is, you know, this all looks great and I think this is the

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direction we need to move in, but I think we need to sit down LGA and say we're probably

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We're looking more like about three meetings with you guys.

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I'm sure LJ will have no problem with multiple meetings.

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That's just a baseline of what they have.

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But also keep in mind that some of this polymer discussion was already had as part of the 57-acre part.

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Excuse me, the Parks Master Plan discussion, the drafting and the adoption portion of it that created that final document.

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The idea is to build off of what the community has already said there.

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But yes, to your point, we'll have as many meetings with whatever community members join in.

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Well, there isn't exhibit B that has their rate schedule.

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Did you want to have one meeting?

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Well, that's what I'm saying.

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But here it says we'll give you, it says you can have one meeting

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and we'll charge it from warrant.

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I'm like, hey, let's just, for 12,000 you can be three meetings.

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I will, I will gladly have that conversation.

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I want to say there's a member of L.J. on the call.

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I was going to say, if I may, there, this is Brad Taigman

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with L.J., later for, there's one meeting

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to refine the scope and project expectations.

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But then there's a design coordination phase also in there that we have four meetings included.

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So that covers the three that you guys are looking for.

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I like that.

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Okay.

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Ray, can I name it?

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We'll have somebody.

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People working on the project will be very familiar with what text art is actually going to allow us.

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We'll do for us, right?

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Yeah, we have 20 folks here that have those connections.

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Ray, would you find yourself generally in favor of this?

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Yes.

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It's not very much so.

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I'm going to drag on the opinion that you want to do.

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We've only been talking about this for the last five years.

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I'm glad we're able to move forward now.

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I would recommend the couple of board members,

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members, unless anybody objects, we can't have a quorum that takes part of it, so I

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mean you can have maybe up to three board members, including Caesar. Is that right, Caesar?

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Well, Caesar's not on the board. No, I mean I want to overdo it, but I would say I would

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recommend Dustin be part of that, because he was pretty, pretty big opinions on it. And

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Tom said you want to be part of that. So there's two, there's one more, if anybody else wants

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to do it. I'm good with those two. I'm good. We've talked about it a lot. We have talked about it a lot. Yeah. I think you just want to see it happen. That's exactly what it is. Can we just get it done working on it? Yeah. So Jackie would also like to be on. Gotcha.

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So there's your three committee members, you don't even vote on that, do we?

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No?

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No.

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I think that the action is very clear once you pass the item, I would assume that you want

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to proceed with this design.

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So just to recap, if you were to approve this today, we're voting to approve the idea to go ahead

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to design this, I think that we have the board members enough to input on what the design

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will be.

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I think we've made it clear that we're going to have enough meetings to talk about that

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and we've made it clear that we need additional meetings, it could be part of it.

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I would definitely recommend that if, once you guys get some ideas, you bring them back and

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we talk about it again.

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Right now we are only meeting once a month.

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I would highly recommend that we have something to talk about.

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You could also, you could always send out for email, but it's something we need to vote

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on.

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And we just call a special meeting and come out and let me.

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Because we've already been talking about doing two meetings anyway, maybe we should get the time allows that

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But when you do once a month is fine, you're not busy, but when you

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A couple of years ago, we talked about going from a actually more than that from a

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Board that plans the board that executes and that really requires more input

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So this is an execution thing. So anyway, is there a motion to approve this?

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I make a motion to approve the 12,000 for LJ or the

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We have a motion. Do we have a second by Jackie? All those in favor say aye.

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I pass the unanimously. Good job. Good discussion.

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9-B is the same item. All it is, it's the budget amendment in order to enact my name.

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Consideration of possible action to approve budget amendment for highway 146 linear park design.

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For either case of DC fund balance or contingency to park improvements.

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months. And the amount of $12,000. I want to talk about it just for a second. Is there

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not any item? Don't we already have part items in the budget? How do they change?

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The rest of the other.

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Remime wasn't a contingency.

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No, I understand what it's for how much is in it.

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135, 422.

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What before I.

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Okay.

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Ray.

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How would you like to fund that?

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As an emotion.

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Yes.

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All right.

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Is there a second?

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Second.

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I had Mr Williamson's book of purchase.

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All right.

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All right.

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All right.

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All right.

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Great job.

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9-C.

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Consideration and parcel election.

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Approving staff to attain lighting design and prepare a bit of package for lighting at CN Park.

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Formerly CN Park.

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We're going to park.

442
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:41,800
Thank you.

443
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:43,860
For the entire board.

444
00:28:43,860 --> 00:28:48,280
And the idea here is apparently we were looking at lighting the park for public safety reasons.

445
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,980
It is very dark at night, although we're working with center point to add lighting at

446
00:28:53,980 --> 00:28:57,260
the two electrical poles that are nearest to the park.

447
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:04,200
The park itself does sit dark and it does make us very susceptible to vandalism and other

448
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:04,880
forms of crime.

449
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:11,300
The park itself has a skate park, beach volleyball court, a tennis court that also has

450
00:29:11,300 --> 00:29:15,840
is lining for four pickleball courts, a full court basketball, and two playgrounds.

451
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,380
One is three through five and then one five through 12.

452
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,960
So you've got a full park as well as a restroom there, but it has zero lighting right now.

453
00:29:25,460 --> 00:29:31,700
The concept that I believe was brought to you before was to create a plan for some solar

454
00:29:31,700 --> 00:29:34,020
lighting because there is no electrical there at the park.

455
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:40,040
After looking at the quotes, I do recommend that we possibly look and compare what the cost

456
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,240
possibly for plain electrical versus solar.

457
00:29:43,260 --> 00:29:45,860
The cost of solar is great, we're very pro solar.

458
00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:48,180
We want to try to have solar as much as possible.

459
00:29:48,660 --> 00:29:50,720
However, for about four solar lights,

460
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,600
we can probably get close to 10 to 12 lights there at the park,

461
00:29:54,620 --> 00:29:55,600
even with no electrical.

462
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,320
We've already had someone go out there and take a look

463
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,580
and give us a preliminary quote.

464
00:29:59,040 --> 00:29:59,940
We would like your...

465
00:30:00,020 --> 00:30:29,480
You're approval to go out and submit a formal quote, get three formal quotes, and then you compare what we already have for four solar lights, and then the board can make a decision of what you would like to do. This is a project that was already pending from before. We can get this turned around very quickly. Our intent is to have this to use early as the next meeting. Should you give us a guidance to move forward tonight. I mean, it's just to get a price. I think that's pretty good. It's all it is. It's for us to bring them so we can compare apples to apples. Any questions on this? Any motions on this?

466
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:36,620
It really needs it, and I mean, my house and solar panel house will be dry by it on every

467
00:30:36,620 --> 00:30:36,900
grain.

468
00:30:37,300 --> 00:30:39,580
So, I'm not against solar panels, but it may be interesting.

469
00:30:40,340 --> 00:30:40,540
Yeah.

470
00:30:41,220 --> 00:30:42,200
I'd love to get some books.

471
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,160
So, are you making a motion for that?

472
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,040
I'm making a motion for that.

473
00:30:45,340 --> 00:30:46,460
You get a quote, three books.

474
00:30:48,020 --> 00:30:52,020
We will bring all that back as well as comparison for solar, should you prove.

475
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:52,580
Sound great?

476
00:30:52,580 --> 00:30:53,060
Is there a second?

477
00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:53,680
Okay.

478
00:30:54,180 --> 00:30:55,680
We got a first and second from the newbies.

479
00:30:56,580 --> 00:30:57,080
We're moving fast.

480
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,720
All those are favour say aye.

481
00:30:59,860 --> 00:31:00,340
All right.

482
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:01,540
Thank you guys.

483
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,380
Way to jump in.

484
00:31:03,980 --> 00:31:04,420
Number nine.

485
00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:08,100
Consideration of possible action to approve a quote for lighting at James Foster Park.

486
00:31:09,940 --> 00:31:13,840
If you look at that on item 9-D.

487
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:14,760
9-D.

488
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,640
Very, very short item.

489
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,680
We talked about lighting at Wiggins Park.

490
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,040
I felt the need that lighting was also necessary at Foster Park for the same reasons.

491
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:30,380
You just had a branding playground installed the lighting that's that that park is very poor. Luckily this park already has

492
00:31:30,380 --> 00:31:33,680
Electrical all we need at this time is $1,600

493
00:31:34,860 --> 00:31:38,580
To provide additional lighting to better light the entire terrain

494
00:31:39,180 --> 00:31:41,380
That's pretty cheap. It is. Yeah

495
00:31:43,740 --> 00:31:44,260
Absolutely

496
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,240
The idea for our parks is usually a bin for them to be sunrise to sunset.

497
00:32:05,140 --> 00:32:10,740
Unfortunately also that does give an issue when they're dead like savings and get start shortly after the kids get out school.

498
00:32:11,380 --> 00:32:18,920
Having said that the idea is mainly for safety so that if police or public safety is driving the area that they can easily see into the park.

499
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,680
so this is not lighting the park per se for folks to enjoy the park

500
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,400
necessarily it's more lighting for the park for public safety reasons. Did I

501
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,920
hit that right on the hours? The best of dawn it's this photo style on here.

502
00:32:43,460 --> 00:32:47,320
Especially when there's patrol again this has happened before I got here but when

503
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,380
they're doing patrols in the dark it is hard to police in area when they don't

504
00:32:51,380 --> 00:32:52,240
So,

505
00:33:01,870 --> 00:33:10,490
as Mr. Garcia mentioned, from a public safety standpoint, it is vital that we light this park up right now.

506
00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:18,150
As of last month, there have been no lighting for probably two, three years at Foster Park.

507
00:33:19,230 --> 00:33:26,470
And we initially got approval to light it up and then we kind of backtracked to get you all's approval on it.

508
00:33:26,950 --> 00:33:34,430
So, what we did was we went and put a bulb in the old light and a new central on top

509
00:33:34,430 --> 00:33:35,350
and it worked.

510
00:33:35,810 --> 00:33:41,150
So, right now, there is a light at the park, but it's very dim and an older light.

511
00:33:41,450 --> 00:33:48,490
The lighting that we want to put are two or three and I have to actually look at that quote.

512
00:33:48,930 --> 00:33:49,310
It's three?

513
00:33:49,510 --> 00:33:50,270
Three, six and three.

514
00:33:50,430 --> 00:33:50,670
Yeah.

515
00:33:50,930 --> 00:33:51,070
Okay.

516
00:33:51,290 --> 00:33:51,630
That's it.

517
00:33:51,630 --> 00:33:58,650
So we want to put up three lights, Duster Dawn, LED, which we all know LED will help save money

518
00:33:59,430 --> 00:34:03,530
in the long term compared to the old style light that's up there right now.

519
00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:05,910
So I

520
00:34:05,910 --> 00:34:10,730
Drive through here every morning about 530 and that's part of what I do is check the city

521
00:34:12,050 --> 00:34:13,470
That park over here's

522
00:34:14,070 --> 00:34:18,150
Wiggins Park and Foster Park are very dark at night. So

523
00:34:18,150 --> 00:34:24,210
So from a public work standpoint, public safety standpoint, we definitely need those

524
00:34:24,210 --> 00:34:24,510
lights.

525
00:34:25,070 --> 00:34:29,570
And I'm quite sure that the neighbors in that area would probably like it as well, but

526
00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:36,670
I have talked to Officer Bennett and Ruiz in the past about it and they've been gave

527
00:34:36,670 --> 00:34:37,730
their blessings on it.

528
00:34:38,090 --> 00:34:39,930
We just never moved forward with doing it.

529
00:34:40,030 --> 00:34:43,110
So that's why it's brought to you our attention today.

530
00:34:44,190 --> 00:34:48,130
So we're hoping that you go ahead and approve that so we can at least get this parking

531
00:34:48,130 --> 00:34:54,610
it up and then the other one is significant amount of money, so we definitely would need

532
00:34:54,610 --> 00:34:55,630
the three quotes for that.

533
00:34:56,050 --> 00:34:57,850
I have a question while you're up here.

534
00:34:59,050 --> 00:34:59,610
Thank you for that.

535
00:35:00,650 --> 00:35:06,590
In the estimate, it mentioned that the city would provide a lift, but then that's what I was

536
00:35:06,590 --> 00:35:07,610
in a comment on right now.

537
00:35:07,870 --> 00:35:08,610
Okay, go ahead.

538
00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:08,990
Go ahead.

539
00:35:09,110 --> 00:35:13,810
I wondered is it, because they mentioned that there was a, that they could provide the lift,

540
00:35:13,810 --> 00:35:16,950
to Alterainlip for 800, is there a preference to that?

541
00:35:17,050 --> 00:35:18,510
Is there something that, do we need that?

542
00:35:18,970 --> 00:35:21,090
That's something that I would like to recommend

543
00:35:21,090 --> 00:35:25,030
that instead of approving tonight, the 1,077 that we move

544
00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:29,410
to approve 2,000 or 777, if it's cheaper for us to do it,

545
00:35:29,410 --> 00:35:31,430
then obviously we'll do it at the lower cost.

546
00:35:31,870 --> 00:35:34,450
But if not, at the very minimum for the $800,

547
00:35:34,770 --> 00:35:36,010
we'll make sure that it's done safely.

548
00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:40,670
So the motion should be not to exceed 2470s.

549
00:35:40,710 --> 00:35:42,610
OK, 2477.8, correct?

550
00:35:42,610 --> 00:35:52,670
Is there is there do you suggest that we use the lift or do you think that ours is adequate? No, the lift is definitely needy because of the height of the light

551
00:35:53,170 --> 00:35:58,230
It's it's just more feasible when we replace the lights here in the parking lot here and then back in the PD

552
00:35:58,970 --> 00:36:03,570
Community Center we already had the lift so the same guy

553
00:36:04,150 --> 00:36:09,150
Replace it and use the lift. I personally believe that it probably be cheaper for us to

554
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:12,210
Rent the lift on the cities in

555
00:36:13,010 --> 00:36:19,090
Because we won't pay taxes on that. He's probably going to have to pay taxes for that and he's going to pass that call soft to us and

556
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:22,750
Then also, too, we have some other work that we need done

557
00:36:23,610 --> 00:36:30,190
So getting this approved would allow us to go ahead and rent the lift and get the work done at the same time

558
00:36:30,190 --> 00:36:34,970
Not just not here at the park. We got some trees. We need to trim along Kip

559
00:36:35,390 --> 00:36:38,850
So when he finishes with the lights, we were going to use the lift

560
00:36:38,850 --> 00:36:42,670
to do some higher work.

561
00:36:42,810 --> 00:36:44,450
Do you have the ballpark and how much that would be?

562
00:36:44,890 --> 00:36:45,410
Ever how long?

563
00:36:48,090 --> 00:36:50,110
It's going to take him maybe a couple.

564
00:36:50,190 --> 00:36:51,450
I was just to put the lights up.

565
00:36:51,630 --> 00:36:52,910
That's for greater bus.

566
00:36:54,110 --> 00:36:54,330
Yeah.

567
00:36:54,810 --> 00:36:55,190
Basically.

568
00:36:55,770 --> 00:36:57,630
Maybe a rent one for cheaper and do everything.

569
00:36:58,270 --> 00:37:01,570
So the idea the concept here would be to not exceed the 24-77

570
00:37:01,570 --> 00:37:03,730
at this time because we know that the function

571
00:37:03,730 --> 00:37:07,350
of this ass today is solely for lighting here.

572
00:37:07,350 --> 00:37:13,010
whatever other expense would be above the eight hundred dollars. Should it be more than the eight hundred for the lift we would have to

573
00:37:13,010 --> 00:37:17,190
If you have other work going on then let's just approve the 16

574
00:37:18,650 --> 00:37:22,330
7798 and just all right as if you need us to reimburse the city for the two hours that you've used it

575
00:37:24,290 --> 00:37:25,850
It's that's so you all costs

576
00:37:26,950 --> 00:37:30,210
I mean you gotta you need a you need it right?

577
00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:32,190
We do need it

578
00:37:32,190 --> 00:37:35,770
We were just kind of with the tree cutting project

579
00:37:35,770 --> 00:37:40,590
we kind of were just sitting back waiting because we don't have a lift that's

580
00:37:40,590 --> 00:37:44,330
something that you know now that I mentioned it public works definitely needs

581
00:37:44,330 --> 00:37:50,270
in our arsenal because we always needing a lift and we've always having to rent

582
00:37:50,270 --> 00:37:55,370
a lift. Is it in your budget to get the lift to do your your tree getting? The

583
00:37:55,370 --> 00:37:58,650
budget that was in existence there we've already utilized we had to get a lift not

584
00:37:58,650 --> 00:38:05,750
too long go to do some other work. So he has no budget to get a lift to do

585
00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:12,010
We say in the parameters of kind of what we're looking at when we approve the amount plus

586
00:38:12,010 --> 00:38:18,490
the 800 and perhaps we can live it broad to where he can look into a rental and maybe

587
00:38:18,490 --> 00:38:21,670
you can get it done in that amount, maybe we can do everything with that one lift instead

588
00:38:21,670 --> 00:38:22,290
of this one.

589
00:38:22,870 --> 00:38:23,590
Well, you can accept that.

590
00:38:23,770 --> 00:38:24,190
Like you said.

591
00:38:24,490 --> 00:38:24,690
Yeah.

592
00:38:25,230 --> 00:38:26,030
Not to mention it.

593
00:38:26,170 --> 00:38:30,010
But with direct, it's easier if you can get a lift to public works.

594
00:38:30,250 --> 00:38:30,410
Certainly.

595
00:38:30,630 --> 00:38:31,410
First option.

596
00:38:32,150 --> 00:38:33,270
This will be a second option.

597
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:34,490
But we've already proved the amount to be.

598
00:38:34,810 --> 00:38:35,650
Yeah, let's do that.

599
00:38:36,550 --> 00:38:37,470
Is that good?

600
00:38:38,050 --> 00:38:38,330
Correct.

601
00:38:38,350 --> 00:38:38,870
Are you good with that?

602
00:38:40,350 --> 00:38:41,650
Are you making the motion there?

603
00:38:41,870 --> 00:38:43,470
Yeah, I'll make a motion to approve that.

604
00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:50,190
167798 plus 800 not to exceed 800 for a total of somebody

605
00:38:50,190 --> 00:38:50,610
do the math.

606
00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:53,350
2,477 and 98 cents.

607
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:53,730
Thank you.

608
00:38:54,810 --> 00:38:55,450
What did he say?

609
00:38:56,490 --> 00:38:57,050
Do you get that?

610
00:38:57,490 --> 00:38:58,190
All right, is there a second?

611
00:38:58,690 --> 00:38:58,970
Second.

612
00:38:59,890 --> 00:39:00,590
All right, we got a second.

613
00:39:00,590 --> 00:39:02,590
by Tom Linclater, all those with favour say aye.

614
00:39:02,670 --> 00:39:03,430
All right.

615
00:39:04,450 --> 00:39:07,030
All right.

616
00:39:07,030 --> 00:39:07,150
All right.

617
00:39:07,290 --> 00:39:08,810
Well, the neglect is going to be where's the money come from.

618
00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:12,690
Consideration of post elections.

619
00:39:12,690 --> 00:39:14,110
Your approved budget amendment for lighting.

620
00:39:14,290 --> 00:39:17,470
And it falls to Dean's poster part in the amount of 1678 plus 800.

621
00:39:22,780 --> 00:39:23,400
247788, right?

622
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:24,060
Where do you want the comfort?

623
00:39:29,660 --> 00:39:31,140
Do you still recommend the contingency?

624
00:39:31,660 --> 00:39:34,320
Where was it supposed to come from before when it was approved?

625
00:39:34,820 --> 00:39:36,760
Where did we go with that plan for?

626
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,460
I thought we had a part budget.

627
00:39:38,460 --> 00:39:42,940
somehow it disappeared must have been in one of the amendments of the budget

628
00:39:42,940 --> 00:39:46,460
we're moving along and we've decided by us but we don't I guess we don't have

629
00:39:46,460 --> 00:39:52,340
anymore we need to think about that next time we budgeted $500,000 didn't we

630
00:39:52,340 --> 00:39:58,320
for that we had another budget and I thought it was $100,000

631
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:05,680
and somehow it got swept somehow I remember that I think

632
00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:11,380
We'll remember that thing. I'll remember it because we've got a

633
00:40:11,380 --> 00:40:13,500
disability town now. We'll make sure we put it in there.

634
00:40:14,380 --> 00:40:23,780
Okay. I move to approve the budget amendment for the not to exceed 20.

635
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:30,540
24, 77, 28, 24, 77, 88, to come out of the contingency batch.

636
00:40:31,260 --> 00:40:32,020
All right. Is there a second?

637
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:33,080
Second.

638
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:33,940
All right.

639
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:34,860
We got a second by Jackie.

640
00:40:35,020 --> 00:40:35,900
Those are the favourites they aye.

641
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:36,480
Aye.

642
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,000
John, do you have a stand on that?

643
00:40:39,260 --> 00:40:39,640
Yes, aye.

644
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:42,040
All right.

645
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:43,300
9-F.

646
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:44,940
Consideration of post-relations approved.

647
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,380
57 acre park, sidewalk design proposal.

648
00:40:50,890 --> 00:40:56,550
Members of the board, this is another one of those long time coming projects.

649
00:40:57,390 --> 00:41:03,710
The cutting activity here, the plan, is for it to be a combination of multi-use pass as well as pedestrian pass.

650
00:41:03,710 --> 00:41:09,270
that do connect the park along Irrigan Memorial with an added alternative

651
00:41:09,270 --> 00:41:14,610
possibly including some concrete stairs connecting the both units. I do

652
00:41:14,610 --> 00:41:18,310
believe red is on the call still to answer any engineering questions that are

653
00:41:18,310 --> 00:41:26,330
entitled here. There is a design of the actual map in the area and the proposed

654
00:41:26,330 --> 00:41:31,670
ADA compliant walkway that leads you to the park. I was part of these meetings and

655
00:41:31,670 --> 00:41:32,850
have some input on this.

656
00:41:35,230 --> 00:41:41,270
I think ultimately Chris Barnes with Meredith was in

657
00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:47,730
a meeting with us and he wants to put in an access to the nature facility for

658
00:41:47,730 --> 00:41:53,990
chemo crossing. He wanted to do it in a private entrance further down which

659
00:41:53,990 --> 00:41:58,810
would be within the gates that connected. My concern with that was we went to

660
00:41:58,810 --> 00:42:03,250
to limit the access points into the park just because we have, you know, we have to be

661
00:42:03,250 --> 00:42:03,950
able to monitor that.

662
00:42:05,370 --> 00:42:10,430
So I brought it to hand that, you know, could we move his entrance over to the, it's

663
00:42:10,430 --> 00:42:15,730
to be the south east corner, which would be the opposite corner of the existing entrance.

664
00:42:16,290 --> 00:42:20,870
Not exactly what are showing it on the map, but a little further south, more towards the

665
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:21,110
corner.

666
00:42:22,150 --> 00:42:24,690
To which, if I remember correctly, you were part of that meeting, he said that they would

667
00:42:24,690 --> 00:42:26,850
pay for it, which I would like to keep it that way.

668
00:42:28,590 --> 00:42:34,030
So, I'm going to find with this, and this is what we talked about generally, but that

669
00:42:34,030 --> 00:42:37,590
interest in my opinion is to scoot down a little further south to the corner.

670
00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:41,930
So that way, anybody that parks in this parking can either access in that corner and keep

671
00:42:41,930 --> 00:42:47,210
across in people can go in that corner, or you can go in the original entrance on this

672
00:42:47,210 --> 00:42:47,570
part side.

673
00:42:48,070 --> 00:42:52,170
Because if I remember right, in the ultimate plan, that existing parking that you used

674
00:42:52,170 --> 00:42:57,850
have to drive through chemo to get to should go away or be limited access and not be the

675
00:42:57,850 --> 00:43:02,770
main interest of the bargain owner. Part of that design if you'll notice that red part is demoing

676
00:43:02,770 --> 00:43:06,770
that current sidewalk that's there and turning it into a true multi use pattern which was the

677
00:43:06,770 --> 00:43:11,430
original intention of that path not just the sidewalk meaning you could drive it off from that.

678
00:43:13,870 --> 00:43:17,370
But I know you weren't part of that conversation but you understand what I'm saying.

679
00:43:17,370 --> 00:43:25,310
I do, it sounds like the ramp you want to move all the way to the South East corner.

680
00:43:26,670 --> 00:43:35,510
My only sort of pushback on that is that the ADA parking stalls on Evergreen Memorial are the

681
00:43:35,510 --> 00:43:41,870
northernmost section of parking stalls. So to move that ramp back, I totally understand

682
00:43:41,870 --> 00:43:43,890
and get America involved with this.

683
00:43:44,010 --> 00:43:47,510
But if you move that back, it makes access,

684
00:43:48,810 --> 00:43:52,650
ADA access as far away from each of this possible.

685
00:43:54,110 --> 00:43:55,410
Well, let's be flipped ADA,

686
00:43:55,730 --> 00:43:57,470
or the parking already designed for ADA.

687
00:43:57,850 --> 00:43:59,690
We just, it's not just a matter of moving signage.

688
00:44:01,230 --> 00:44:01,830
It's great.

689
00:44:01,970 --> 00:44:04,010
It may be, I'd have to talk some more.

690
00:44:04,570 --> 00:44:06,690
You know, I'm not sure since the,

691
00:44:06,690 --> 00:44:08,710
the, every meeting has been finalized,

692
00:44:08,850 --> 00:44:10,770
so I don't know what it looks like at this point.

693
00:44:10,770 --> 00:44:17,430
But yeah, that's the possibility if we can flip flop that okay, what's the what's the distance how if we're

694
00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:22,450
Extit if we're making it farther from the ADA from the handicapped spots and the ADA stuff

695
00:44:22,450 --> 00:44:27,110
How how far are we talking about extending it down? We're just talking about a couple of barking spaces

696
00:44:29,340 --> 00:44:37,020
So so there there was a preliminary design that called four two ramps

697
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,360
both of them with the same

698
00:44:41,300 --> 00:44:46,860
orientation, one was closer to the corner, while one was closer there to the

699
00:44:46,860 --> 00:44:53,440
ABA spots. However, it seemed redundant to have two ramps with two retaining

700
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,900
walls. The real cost here is going to be the retaining walls because you're

701
00:44:57,900 --> 00:44:59,940
talking about a 13-foot berm that you're going to be doing.

702
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,960
We're going to have to move Earth and then put some type of sidewalk on. ADA compliant that. So you're talking about four and a half inches deep here.

703
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:29,960
Engineering-wise and construction-wise, it probably makes sense to limit it to one along that side. That's why this alternative that's before you kind of meets halfway where both of those would have been. After talking to Chris Barnes, he's still amicable to this. He does have to pass it through his higher ups, but the idea would be for them to still participate in the same manner as before.

704
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:36,380
Okay, well if he's okay with that and that's a matter of keeping the somebody ADA to get to that ramp because you know

705
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:42,240
The biggest part of the design of that park was to be an all-inclusive park, correct

706
00:45:42,580 --> 00:45:44,840
And so it is important that we stay within

707
00:45:45,620 --> 00:45:48,960
Whatever ADA allowances to be able to get up there. So if we don't want to be too far

708
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:55,600
So if it's good there and if it needs to be there for ADA purposes and as long as Chris Barnes is willing to pay for it

709
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,740
I'm good with it being there

710
00:45:56,740 --> 00:46:06,280
Yeah, I don't I don't I wanted to capitalize on the fact that they're going to pay for it. We're going to pay for the idea would be that the ramp would be on us, though, no

711
00:46:06,740 --> 00:46:18,920
No, the actual ADA ramp, the expense of the ramp for the entrance, the sidewalk, yes, he was going to put in a ramp that switched back ramp on inside

712
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:24,340
came across him okay and then so we talked about relocating his efforts to the

713
00:46:24,340 --> 00:46:28,720
corner okay so if he's okay with it being where is that and still incur the

714
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:34,840
cost of it that's great sure but from where the base of the ramp is now through

715
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:39,200
the rest of it then that would be the part that would be on us well no we're

716
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,100
correct we would take care of the sidewalk yes yes we take care of the sidewalk

717
00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:52,740
from the southwest corner, all the way to meeting the multi-purpose path, including the multi-purpose path, and including a couple of ADA spots that they have there.

718
00:46:55,280 --> 00:47:03,100
With Chris, marriage paying for the actual ramp that goes up to the top of the room and whatever that is.

719
00:47:04,020 --> 00:47:07,220
That would be the way I understood it.

720
00:47:07,220 --> 00:47:09,240
And I will, I will, I mean, do you understand?

721
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:09,420
Yeah.

722
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:10,580
I understood it.

723
00:47:10,780 --> 00:47:10,920
Yeah.

724
00:47:11,660 --> 00:47:13,500
I will talk to Chris further just to confirm.

725
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,380
I mean, you want to ask him about it.

726
00:47:15,460 --> 00:47:17,180
And he does want it to move for himself.

727
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,320
And then we talk about maybe switching the ADA parking spot.

728
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:21,180
And does that make sense?

729
00:47:21,660 --> 00:47:21,920
Correct.

730
00:47:22,180 --> 00:47:24,300
Because it is ADA.

731
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,260
I think Brett said that the other entrance, if you close your good eye

732
00:47:28,260 --> 00:47:29,420
and look at your bad eyes, ADA.

733
00:47:29,980 --> 00:47:31,040
But it's not really ADA.

734
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:32,540
Right.

735
00:47:32,740 --> 00:47:35,060
There are a couple of spots that it does not be ADA.

736
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:35,600
Right.

737
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,140
Yeah, it's very, very, very close.

738
00:47:37,620 --> 00:47:41,220
Right, so I mean, you know, we're really going to be an aunt who's a part of it,

739
00:47:41,300 --> 00:47:46,120
but she has a real access, I mean, you know, honestly, and if we have an opportunity to make this new ramp,

740
00:47:46,380 --> 00:47:49,400
the real 80 access, it should be, it should be just that.

741
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,840
But again, I can't stress enough in front of everybody that's closing me today,

742
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:59,600
that I would really prefer that Chris and his company big for that ramp.

743
00:48:00,540 --> 00:48:01,320
And we pay for this, I don't know.

744
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:07,420
preference noted. Yeah. I just feel like if we move if we wanted to move this

745
00:48:07,420 --> 00:48:13,260
access point right here south there's not a lot of space I mean it's not too

746
00:48:13,260 --> 00:48:17,060
far in there if you're looking at the scale here I mean that's not because you

747
00:48:17,060 --> 00:48:20,340
can't go to the very corner you're gonna I mean to get closer to Meritize you're

748
00:48:20,340 --> 00:48:24,720
not gonna go too far and if we're talking about well the only problem of that

749
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:28,160
Sean is it is me now if you're in a wheelchair and you're coming up there the

750
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,820
distance you have to go on the top of the berm to get to the actual park. Sure I mean

751
00:48:31,820 --> 00:48:33,580
I mean, if that's where you're going, absolutely.

752
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,040
So your preference is not to move it to the South corner.

753
00:48:38,380 --> 00:48:40,320
I mean, I thought that's what you wanted.

754
00:48:40,820 --> 00:48:42,020
Originally, that's what we talked about.

755
00:48:42,300 --> 00:48:44,040
But I don't understand any aspect of it.

756
00:48:44,580 --> 00:48:47,820
So if that's what we're trying to mean,

757
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:48,980
is that the standard we're trying to mean,

758
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,340
it needs to be there to be that standard.

759
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:51,420
But that should be there.

760
00:48:51,580 --> 00:48:52,060
I just want to make sure.

761
00:48:53,240 --> 00:48:55,660
Whatever's easiest for the parking, too, I would imagine.

762
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,000
So further discussions with Maritaj does have them

763
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,260
adding continual sidewalk along that side of the road as well.

764
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:05,280
Yeah, by the way, at the point of the entrance of that neighborhood.

765
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,200
They would continue the sidewalk all the way down.

766
00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:11,200
What was that phase one, where you're at the gates?

767
00:49:11,780 --> 00:49:18,180
Phase one is the gate and phase two is what they're building out.

768
00:49:18,860 --> 00:49:20,080
The other phase one now.

769
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,040
So Chris said that the sidewalk, they would then continue the sidewalk from this point

770
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:30,500
all the way to the entrance of phase one, including a crosswalk that goes over to the

771
00:49:30,500 --> 00:49:33,920
Kipper, and then you guys will be able to come out and get on the side.

772
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:39,680
Well, and then there would be a crosswalk over to phase three, which is narrative or

773
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,100
king of crossing, which is behind that character.

774
00:49:42,820 --> 00:49:45,560
Yeah, and if you wanted to have that, we didn't talk about that.

775
00:49:45,620 --> 00:49:46,340
We didn't talk about that.

776
00:49:46,340 --> 00:49:47,080
We didn't talk about that, but they needed that.

777
00:49:47,260 --> 00:49:48,360
But they need to do that.

778
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,300
Yeah, we also talked about adding an art part.

779
00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:55,960
I stopped on it at that entrance so that you know because right now it's a drag

780
00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:02,380
strip from South Game of Drive to to boarding yeah I hear them too you know so we

781
00:50:02,380 --> 00:50:06,840
don't want that so I mean that budget of the stop time is gonna help so that's the

782
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:13,240
ultimate plan I like it I think it's very I see folks walking up and down that

783
00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:17,660
street every day yeah that's great more and more yeah and so I think if we have

784
00:50:17,660 --> 00:50:20,820
something on that side for you guys something over here for these people I think that's

785
00:50:20,820 --> 00:50:21,140
That's a good idea.

786
00:50:21,620 --> 00:50:23,500
Sort of asking for the change order to be approved.

787
00:50:25,940 --> 00:50:26,360
No.

788
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,020
We're asking for approval of this proposal.

789
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,560
Obviously, this shows your construction estimates.

790
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:39,000
I will also tell you that the hope with this entire thing is to be very aggressive with grants

791
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,740
and not have to use a lot of our funds for construction.

792
00:50:43,260 --> 00:50:46,020
But we do want to have shovel ready projects that when we do present it,

793
00:50:46,020 --> 00:50:50,220
two possible funders that we could be more enticing for them and know that we're serious

794
00:50:50,220 --> 00:50:51,800
and I'm ready to mobilize.

795
00:50:56,660 --> 00:51:00,560
Also, the sidewalk that we were putting in there, that was part of one of their future

796
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:05,180
phases of the need for facility, just for the record, yes, we are just moving that forward

797
00:51:05,180 --> 00:51:07,140
because it's really needed, correct.

798
00:51:08,220 --> 00:51:09,780
I think to get people out there, yes?

799
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:10,180
Yeah,

800
00:51:12,670 --> 00:51:15,850
absolutely, we're just looking to change the order of our own, all right.

801
00:51:16,750 --> 00:51:17,430
That's what I thought.

802
00:51:18,090 --> 00:51:18,410
256.

803
00:51:20,010 --> 00:51:20,850
Isn't that what we're doing?

804
00:51:21,590 --> 00:51:22,770
No, so this is all designed proposal.

805
00:51:22,990 --> 00:51:25,210
It's the whole, so it's the 308.

806
00:51:25,490 --> 00:51:27,590
So this is amending that the original proposal?

807
00:51:27,810 --> 00:51:28,490
Is that what we're looking at?

808
00:51:29,990 --> 00:51:31,510
Yeah, because they're just saying they want us

809
00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:32,470
to approve the change order.

810
00:51:32,610 --> 00:51:33,930
Yeah, that's all the...

811
00:51:33,930 --> 00:51:35,090
No, since it's a consideration about that,

812
00:51:35,190 --> 00:51:37,270
you're proving that you're starting to approve the design proposal.

813
00:51:37,730 --> 00:51:38,830
I know, I was looking at this part though.

814
00:51:48,050 --> 00:51:49,450
Well, but no, no, no, no.

815
00:51:49,450 --> 00:51:50,790
The change order is...

816
00:51:50,790 --> 00:51:53,310
Because they're in a phase one and two right now on the bar.

817
00:52:08,530 --> 00:52:10,930
We're proving the change order to go up to that amount correct

818
00:52:11,450 --> 00:52:13,250
Yes. Yes. All right.

819
00:52:19,700 --> 00:52:23,680
And we're on the call too. Should you have any questions for any kind

820
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:31,000
of more input on this? I don't think so. I just want to add that it kind of worked out where

821
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:36,680
that ramp is going going back a little bit that we have a future convention inside the park

822
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:43,880
with trails, meaning at the top of the ramp. So by splitting the difference between the original

823
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:51,560
location sort of at the north end of the parking stalls versus the south end by the

824
00:52:51,560 --> 00:53:00,400
emergency project. It lined up pretty good. And that ramp is 300 feet long at 4.5%, which

825
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:07,560
is just under 88 requirements. So you know we can even make that a little bit longer, make

826
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,680
it a little bit easier in the ramp too. We're going to push that down a little bit further

827
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:18,720
that top conventional areas or we can just keep it sort of at that recommended minimum or maximum

828
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:21,720
slope I should say and move the whole thing to the south.

829
00:53:24,300 --> 00:53:27,700
Going back to again to I guess the

830
00:53:27,700 --> 00:53:34,620
proposals that you guys are looking at. One is for our fee to get this construction ready and the

831
00:53:34,620 --> 00:53:39,960
other one is to change order it into the existing contract on site with HD outdoor.

832
00:53:43,390 --> 00:53:44,290
Isaac, I know we

833
00:53:44,290 --> 00:53:48,670
talked about this entrance a little bit. Can you expand a little bit about what you're

834
00:53:48,670 --> 00:53:54,030
doing at the end of part, what the proposal is in the end of part, and why the suggestion

835
00:53:54,030 --> 00:54:00,850
is to take that side walk out and change it. You wanted to make it a multipurpose, you

836
00:54:00,850 --> 00:54:01,030
said?

837
00:54:01,430 --> 00:54:05,830
So when we originally talked about putting in an end on KCDC that was supposed to be a

838
00:54:05,830 --> 00:54:10,830
multipurpose path years ago, when they went out and actually did it, they put a side walk

839
00:54:10,830 --> 00:54:15,750
in, which is not as notable as that. Love that purpose path is like 10 foot wide or

840
00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:22,910
about how wide is that? The one, you know, over those of us 10. Yeah. And so, to take

841
00:54:22,910 --> 00:54:28,510
out with there, make it a 10 foot path that way you can get a golf cart or a biking and

842
00:54:28,510 --> 00:54:29,070
over the instrument.

843
00:54:31,310 --> 00:54:34,770
Is that kind of the thought is to make the end of

844
00:54:34,770 --> 00:54:38,510
parkoaks there, the parking lot that's there now is the idea to kind of make that

845
00:54:38,510 --> 00:54:41,130
that focus on bikes and golf carts and that type of thing?

846
00:54:41,550 --> 00:54:43,610
I think that should be what it should be.

847
00:54:43,810 --> 00:54:46,610
Mine. I don't remember all the phases.

848
00:54:46,890 --> 00:54:48,310
It's been a long time since we talked about them.

849
00:54:48,790 --> 00:54:51,570
But from my recollection, that parking lot was supposed

850
00:54:51,570 --> 00:54:54,250
to be limited to golf carts and or limited access at some point.

851
00:54:54,290 --> 00:54:55,190
That was what I understood too.

852
00:54:55,630 --> 00:54:57,830
And so I think it's a good idea.

853
00:54:58,110 --> 00:55:00,610
And it also gives the folks the chemo oaks

854
00:55:00,610 --> 00:55:04,870
that legal means to get to everything in town on golf cart.

855
00:55:05,030 --> 00:55:06,730
Right now you're not supposed to go on the sidewalk

856
00:55:08,530 --> 00:55:13,450
but if you go out that backside, if you have a golf cart in the back side of it, you

857
00:55:13,450 --> 00:55:17,770
now can go to public shores, you go to the boardwalk, anywhere in town, I think you

858
00:55:17,770 --> 00:55:18,210
bad that one.

859
00:55:18,270 --> 00:55:22,090
And there's a lot of people that come there on golf carts now, I'm going through that

860
00:55:22,090 --> 00:55:22,830
area and it's like-

861
00:55:22,830 --> 00:55:24,410
There's a gentleman in a bank golf cart and it's dog.

862
00:55:24,690 --> 00:55:25,290
Every day.

863
00:55:25,470 --> 00:55:27,050
He comes from public shores out every day.

864
00:55:27,150 --> 00:55:28,170
He comes from every day as I pass them.

865
00:55:28,270 --> 00:55:28,950
We drive by and we talk.

866
00:55:29,670 --> 00:55:30,590
So he comes from public shores.

867
00:55:30,970 --> 00:55:31,130
Yeah.

868
00:55:31,290 --> 00:55:32,390
I mean, I like that.

869
00:55:32,550 --> 00:55:33,770
That seems kind of cool.

870
00:55:34,350 --> 00:55:35,390
I think it's great work.

871
00:55:35,390 --> 00:55:44,070
I want to speak to a resident today who kind of take it on on the on the side of

872
00:55:44,070 --> 00:55:48,270
the federal people. So I'm sure that this will be very well received by folks.

873
00:55:49,490 --> 00:55:52,430
All right. Is there a motion? Is there any more discussion?

874
00:55:53,250 --> 00:55:56,390
Well, one with the motion exactly. Motion will change to approve.

875
00:55:57,350 --> 00:56:02,350
Change order amount 25,600. Yeah. Add to the original amount. Is that correct, Grant?

876
00:56:04,070 --> 00:56:15,080
Yeah, the change order that is 256 is our design fees for this and then the yeah, it brings

877
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:20,400
the total to $308,000 that includes all of the previous 57 acre design stuff.

878
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:20,760
Yes.

879
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:20,860
Yes?

880
00:56:22,500 --> 00:56:27,180
We're proving the change order to get to the pre-do, so the notion would be, we're proving

881
00:56:27,180 --> 00:56:32,860
the change order to $25,600 to get to the new contract on the 3008,830 dollars for

882
00:56:32,860 --> 00:56:32,960
that.

883
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:33,680
Yes.

884
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:34,880
I'll make that open.

885
00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:35,920
All right.

886
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:37,860
I'll second it.

887
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:38,420
All right.

888
00:56:39,100 --> 00:56:40,140
All those in favor say aye.

889
00:56:40,500 --> 00:56:40,680
All right.

890
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:40,900
Aye.

891
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:41,640
All right.

892
00:56:47,780 --> 00:56:52,540
9G approval to utilize KCDC funds for advertising in the Texas Economic Development Guide.

893
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:53,620
Patty.

894
00:56:54,180 --> 00:56:58,080
Good evening, so Kate, hold on a second.

895
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:07,200
KCVC has the opportunity to secure an ad in the Texas 2025 media kit.

896
00:57:07,900 --> 00:57:10,100
It's the Texas Economic Development Guide.

897
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:14,620
There's a copy, a hard copy of it that's up at the dius for you to look at.

898
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:20,060
And I think there's also a link to the digital version in your packet.

899
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:25,260
What we're looking at doing, well, let me give you a little bit of background on it first.

900
00:57:25,260 --> 00:57:32,640
First, the publication prints 25, I'm sorry, 12,500 copies annually, with 7,500 copies

901
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:38,320
bagged with the May issue of site selection magazine, and then 5,000 copies are distributed

902
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:43,540
at trade shows and economic development conventions around the state and the country.

903
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:50,180
So digital distributions also included which kind of amplifies the ads reach.

904
00:57:50,180 --> 00:57:55,920
What we're asking you to consider this evening is, first of all, if you'd like to do the advertising.

905
00:57:56,540 --> 00:58:03,000
And secondly, if you'd like to do a half-page horizontal ad, and right, yeah, it shows you

906
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:09,160
the half-page is about halfway down on the page, there's, let me see if I can find it.

907
00:58:09,420 --> 00:58:16,420
Half-page horizontal ad is $3,600, that is guaranteed placement, meaning that we get to

908
00:58:16,420 --> 00:58:21,040
put it in the section of our choice, or a third page ad, which could be their vertical

909
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:25,180
or horizontal, which is 2850, and that is also guaranteed placement.

910
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:35,180
It's the magazine goes to people that are looking to developers that are looking to develop

911
00:58:36,660 --> 00:58:43,940
in Texas, and so it really is a pretty good publication for economic developments.

912
00:58:43,940 --> 00:58:49,060
It's published by Conway Data, and it reads a site selector's corporate decision-makers,

913
00:58:49,060 --> 00:58:54,680
economic development professionals, and has a really qualified leadership.

914
00:58:55,980 --> 00:58:59,160
The readership is a very highly qualified leadership.

915
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:09,340
Funding is available from your marketing and marketing and web site development account.

916
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,740
I'm sorry, lost my train, I thought, per second.

917
00:59:11,740 --> 00:59:15,750
Do you have any questions?

918
00:59:24,890 --> 00:59:25,870
I really like that.

919
00:59:26,070 --> 00:59:32,390
I think that that vertical ad gives you a lot of, it's kind of where your hand is, so

920
00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:33,010
it's right.

921
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,460
And if you're flipping it through it just like you are there, it's the same thing.

922
00:59:39,660 --> 00:59:41,220
You know, you're seeing that that vertical.

923
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:47,520
I think it's a, I think that either one of them, and so the reason that I picked the two

924
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:52,380
options, those two options, I think that any, either the third or the half page would be

925
00:59:52,380 --> 00:59:59,800
effective for us, but I think that I like that that horizontal, I'm sorry that vertical, for that

926
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,340
Exact reason. I mean, my visual preference would be that half page vertical, because you're maximizing that these, if it's on that right side. These are, was there anything else you wanted to add? No, I'm also in support, I think I could see a nice rendering, maybe, and I don't want to get artistic, but maybe a lighthouse, something that really vertically visually appealing, something of that nature, I don't really call some of the attention. Something that just says, hey, this is chemo.

927
01:00:29,340 --> 01:00:37,060
And the publication is split into different sections that are promoting different types

928
01:00:37,060 --> 01:00:37,700
of development.

929
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:42,460
So if, for example, we wanted to promote, if we wanted to go out there and say, hey,

930
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:49,280
we're at a vacation destination, a tourist destination, we can get into section where

931
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:54,160
they're talking about more tourism type things and kind of target those developers or if there's

932
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,840
a different kind of development we're looking for, then we can kind of put it into that section

933
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:58,560
to develop that.

934
01:01:00,850 --> 01:01:05,610
who would be who's going to make who's going to design the ad and what would

935
01:01:05,610 --> 01:01:11,850
generally would it tell. So we have we have a MDR on retainer if we would

936
01:01:11,850 --> 01:01:14,770
like to go with that you know if we'd like to go with the chema the discover

937
01:01:14,770 --> 01:01:19,170
chema brand we can do that it could be done in house it could be done through

938
01:01:19,170 --> 01:01:26,310
MDR either one. But I think if it's I think if it's just discover chema and it's

939
01:01:26,310 --> 01:01:28,070
There's more towards that, ran in, in that hot, in that hot.

940
01:01:29,450 --> 01:01:32,210
In this case, we probably wouldn't go with Discover Keema so much.

941
01:01:32,310 --> 01:01:35,230
This is really to spark and to spur economic development.

942
01:01:35,690 --> 01:01:39,490
I see this putting a QR code that takes you to our city's website.

943
01:01:39,690 --> 01:01:42,990
That gives you some of our presentation that we have.

944
01:01:43,370 --> 01:01:48,430
Just certain things to spark people to say, hey, you know, if you want to come do this in a few minutes, here you go.

945
01:01:48,810 --> 01:01:55,710
Absolutely, we're developing economic development section for our website.

946
01:01:55,710 --> 01:01:59,510
and absolutely the QR code would spur it back to or would drive it back to that.

947
01:01:59,810 --> 01:02:06,650
So just for the record like the presentation we're talking about is an economic development

948
01:02:06,650 --> 01:02:10,570
presentation that actually goes on to list, what land is available here,

949
01:02:13,610 --> 01:02:19,550
available city assistance and high service use things we're looking for.

950
01:02:19,550 --> 01:02:25,330
Senate programs who to contact for permanent, so if it's geared towards that, I'm all on board.

951
01:02:25,510 --> 01:02:28,370
If it's geared towards discovery chemo, that should be an obvious thing, which is my point.

952
01:02:28,770 --> 01:02:30,950
The only reason why you wanted to do some discovery, I'm sorry.

953
01:02:32,470 --> 01:02:33,870
Probably going to say the same thing.

954
01:02:34,450 --> 01:02:38,790
We should be using the discovery chemo branding, though, because it ties everything together.

955
01:02:39,110 --> 01:02:40,210
And that's where I was going with it.

956
01:02:41,310 --> 01:02:45,490
You sell chemo as a destination that people want to come and put their business in.

957
01:02:45,490 --> 01:02:49,050
So I think a combination of two, that's the reason why you should probably work great

958
01:02:49,050 --> 01:02:51,190
to discover chemo, logo and thoughts into it.

959
01:02:51,270 --> 01:02:56,350
No different than having KCDC and say, logo also incorporated, but almost as a pillar

960
01:02:56,350 --> 01:03:02,050
to discover chemo, because folks can then brand identity say, hey, chemo, tourism, business,

961
01:03:02,410 --> 01:03:02,990
I want to be there.

962
01:03:03,110 --> 01:03:04,290
I want to open up my restaurant there.

963
01:03:04,390 --> 01:03:05,350
I want to open up my hotel there.

964
01:03:05,750 --> 01:03:09,750
No, my comment wasn't more towards the branding, which I understand we're saying at the good

965
01:03:09,750 --> 01:03:09,970
point.

966
01:03:10,150 --> 01:03:13,250
It was more of, it's going to say, hey, come and die in a week.

967
01:03:13,330 --> 01:03:14,030
No, no.

968
01:03:14,030 --> 01:03:15,490
That should be a hot fund.

969
01:03:15,550 --> 01:03:18,110
Right, no, this is going to be more towards this,

970
01:03:18,230 --> 01:03:19,710
what would you build, this is what we're looking for,

971
01:03:20,050 --> 01:03:21,870
this is the land available, that's the economic growth.

972
01:03:22,230 --> 01:03:24,530
And actually, going to be tomorrow night for Council,

973
01:03:24,670 --> 01:03:25,910
we have an item that is more discovered,

974
01:03:25,910 --> 01:03:28,190
FEMA, as it comes as it comes into dying.

975
01:03:28,470 --> 01:03:29,550
Yes, come stay with us.

976
01:03:29,890 --> 01:03:31,930
On that agenda, uploading the astros.

977
01:03:32,130 --> 01:03:33,810
With the astros, yeah, the astros.

978
01:03:34,090 --> 01:03:34,850
Absolutely separate thing.

979
01:03:35,110 --> 01:03:36,730
This is specific for economic growth.

980
01:03:37,290 --> 01:03:37,390
Right.

981
01:03:38,690 --> 01:03:39,590
Discussion about this?

982
01:03:39,850 --> 01:03:39,930
Yeah.

983
01:03:40,490 --> 01:03:42,870
OK, so I'm just going to break it down

984
01:03:42,870 --> 01:03:43,950
because I'm dense.

985
01:03:46,130 --> 01:03:48,410
What we're talking about here is we're talking about

986
01:03:48,410 --> 01:03:49,970
essentially branding.

987
01:03:50,670 --> 01:03:52,570
Okay, Kima is an economic development.

988
01:03:53,030 --> 01:03:55,810
We want people to bring their businesses.

989
01:03:55,810 --> 01:03:56,970
We want people to do that.

990
01:03:57,330 --> 01:04:00,150
I 100% understand I think that's obviously our focus here.

991
01:04:01,050 --> 01:04:06,110
But we're talking about the hope is that we pay the money

992
01:04:06,110 --> 01:04:09,690
for this ad and somebody at a random trade show,

993
01:04:10,090 --> 01:04:12,770
a cold call essentially, if you're doing sales,

994
01:04:12,770 --> 01:04:14,850
is gonna look at that and go, you know what?

995
01:04:15,250 --> 01:04:16,990
I have been meaning to open a restaurant,

996
01:04:17,370 --> 01:04:19,590
and I'm gonna click on here, and hopefully they think,

997
01:04:19,730 --> 01:04:20,870
I'm gonna open a restaurant here,

998
01:04:20,930 --> 01:04:22,290
I'm gonna do something like that here.

999
01:04:23,010 --> 01:04:24,910
Is that something that we need?

1000
01:04:25,830 --> 01:04:27,730
Because that just seems like we're hoping

1001
01:04:27,730 --> 01:04:29,770
that we get a return on investment here,

1002
01:04:30,630 --> 01:04:33,530
and I mean, we don't necessarily know what trade shows

1003
01:04:33,530 --> 01:04:36,050
it goes to, we don't know what kind of investors it goes to.

1004
01:04:37,810 --> 01:04:40,110
It just seems like it's something

1005
01:04:40,110 --> 01:04:44,670
that we're kind of hoping to get a return on when if people are going to come to

1006
01:04:44,670 --> 01:04:48,350
Kim and open a business I mean that's not just because they're they're thinking

1007
01:04:48,350 --> 01:04:52,070
about opening something and well maybe Kim is a good place I don't think it

1008
01:04:52,070 --> 01:04:57,290
quite works like that maybe on you know maybe I'm wrong on that but it just seems

1009
01:04:57,290 --> 01:05:05,110
like it just seems like a hopeful branding and we hope that somebody looks at us

1010
01:05:05,110 --> 01:05:09,770
as a destination and decides to move something here I guess it doesn't

1011
01:05:09,770 --> 01:05:15,210
And out loud to me, it doesn't sound like something that's actually going to happen.

1012
01:05:15,770 --> 01:05:21,770
So with a publication like this, we're not targeting mom and pop small businesses to

1013
01:05:21,770 --> 01:05:22,390
come to town.

1014
01:05:22,630 --> 01:05:29,990
We are targeting people who are qualified to make the decisions for some of those larger

1015
01:05:29,990 --> 01:05:35,810
businesses that we want to bring into town that will therefore attract more into our space.

1016
01:05:36,410 --> 01:05:38,710
It's spending more sales taxes.

1017
01:05:38,710 --> 01:05:41,070
And they're making that decision based on a magazine article?

1018
01:05:41,510 --> 01:05:41,930
I don't know.

1019
01:05:42,290 --> 01:05:45,110
So, are you saying then that you feel like,

1020
01:05:45,310 --> 01:05:48,650
see what was that amount, 9G, $3,600?

1021
01:05:49,050 --> 01:05:52,190
$39.50 if you went for a guaranteed spot.

1022
01:05:52,630 --> 01:05:55,010
Yeah, so $39.50 could be better spent in another manner

1023
01:05:55,010 --> 01:05:56,230
to bring business to everything?

1024
01:05:57,110 --> 01:06:00,430
I think that's, I think I'm saying that necessarily.

1025
01:06:00,650 --> 01:06:02,150
And I understand what the purpose is,

1026
01:06:02,150 --> 01:06:04,390
and I think where he's right, but again,

1027
01:06:04,390 --> 01:06:11,770
Then targeted advertising versus seems like this is kind of hopeful advertising and it

1028
01:06:11,770 --> 01:06:17,210
does show that we are, if we're wanting to show that we are a big brand, that we are,

1029
01:06:17,510 --> 01:06:23,290
we're in these magazines, everybody sees it, great, but I question if that's actually

1030
01:06:23,290 --> 01:06:26,150
going to bring something here because of this.

1031
01:06:26,650 --> 01:06:28,510
That's my only concern.

1032
01:06:28,750 --> 01:06:29,630
I have a question for Patty.

1033
01:06:29,630 --> 01:06:31,370
How long have you worked in economic development?

1034
01:06:34,530 --> 01:06:36,550
Peripherally for almost 20 years.

1035
01:06:37,150 --> 01:06:39,370
Okay, often do you see this publication in the House or desk?

1036
01:06:42,130 --> 01:06:46,370
So I haven't worked in economic development enough to have seen it a lot.

1037
01:06:48,930 --> 01:07:00,720
I do know that it is when the Governor's office has the different bringing businesses

1038
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:06,420
is to Texas that this goes through that and that it's that it's seen there. One of the

1039
01:07:06,420 --> 01:07:10,680
things that one of the things that I wanted to add about this is that we really haven't

1040
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:15,220
done any economic development marketing, right? We've done tourism marketing, we've worked

1041
01:07:15,220 --> 01:07:19,580
our tourism brand. We haven't really stuck our name out there as a place that has economic

1042
01:07:19,580 --> 01:07:25,220
development opportunities and that this would be an idea to an opportunity to get that idea

1043
01:07:25,220 --> 01:07:32,480
out there the kind of the if you haven't thought about Kima as a development area we're here

1044
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:37,720
we're in Galveston County there's lots of things going on and kind of come and look and see

1045
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:42,600
what we have so it's really is kind of at that base of branding where we're trying to get our name

1046
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:49,540
out there to where people consider us. But I would say that we have actually spent some time

1047
01:07:49,540 --> 01:07:56,080
money in that, A, and going to the trade shows, and B, presenting like we

1048
01:07:56,080 --> 01:08:01,040
presented Aaron and I, and you went to the bakery, which actually resulted in

1049
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:05,240
a couple of people coming to see my look, you do develop from that. So I can see

1050
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,880
what you're saying Sean, that maybe, I guess you've got my brain working thinking,

1051
01:08:08,420 --> 01:08:13,000
could we invest that money on something else? I mean you could actually, you could do

1052
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,360
more things like we're doing, you go to more trade shows, you can go to more local

1053
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:22,980
network events. I mean you go straight to the people that are representing. Yeah, I think that

1054
01:08:22,980 --> 01:08:30,360
I think that's my question to you. I mean you guys spend more time on the EDC aspect of the past

1055
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:36,000
a couple of years you and Aaron and what's been the best return on investment so far? I mean you

1056
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:41,000
had lots of good input when you guys came back from the trade shows a lot of direct contacts. Is that

1057
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:46,340
where we really want to focus our money? Is that our best contact point? Well think about this for a

1058
01:08:46,340 --> 01:08:51,980
this is $39.00 right? 36. 36 and so like you say you've done through it and that

1059
01:08:51,980 --> 01:08:57,240
doesn't have digital impressions it's not just physical but what do you think

1060
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:05,360
it cost us to go to Dallas when we went about that maybe less yeah yeah and so

1061
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:10,820
when we went to Dallas season nine then we probably got in front of 50 60 70

1062
01:09:10,820 --> 01:09:15,460
businesses that day where I was hand physically handing out my guards giving

1063
01:09:15,460 --> 01:09:18,440
giving them stuff for the city, scanning the QR codes.

1064
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,740
I would say that, again, you've got my mind working thing.

1065
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,280
That was a good, and I've mentioned before,

1066
01:09:25,380 --> 01:09:26,420
and I preach that we should get more involved

1067
01:09:26,420 --> 01:09:27,020
in those kind of things.

1068
01:09:27,820 --> 01:09:29,560
If you have a local, it's after that, I'm going to use them.

1069
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,460
We have the local networks that do that kind of stuff.

1070
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,120
You know, they have, they have the one we don't even

1071
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:37,600
really touch, and we don't really share it.

1072
01:09:37,740 --> 01:09:38,260
Yeah, I'm not sure.

1073
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:40,480
You know, I get emails from Bayhub every day

1074
01:09:40,480 --> 01:09:42,840
about businesses coming to town doing all kinds of stuff.

1075
01:09:43,140 --> 01:09:44,880
You know, we're looking for places to build or be.

1076
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,540
and then we are keen as a member of Bayhut

1077
01:09:47,540 --> 01:09:50,300
and we really need to be exploiting that relationship.

1078
01:09:50,900 --> 01:09:51,640
I fully agree with you.

1079
01:09:51,900 --> 01:09:52,000
Right.

1080
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:53,720
May he's great at it.

1081
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:54,820
I'm telling you, I have a lot of policies

1082
01:09:54,820 --> 01:09:55,880
that he's really good at doing that.

1083
01:09:56,280 --> 01:10:00,100
So, Patty, how many copies, if we did do this,

1084
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:03,720
how many copies do they give the city or do they not give the city?

1085
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:04,980
They would give the city.

1086
01:10:05,300 --> 01:10:07,140
So she asked me kind of how much we thought,

1087
01:10:07,380 --> 01:10:09,160
do you remember that Caesar that she asked it?

1088
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,860
I think I started asking about a hundred issues.

1089
01:10:12,500 --> 01:10:12,900
Okay.

1090
01:10:12,900 --> 01:10:15,980
And what is their projected digital reach?

1091
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:21,820
You know, maybe in the information that they gave, but I don't have it here.

1092
01:10:21,980 --> 01:10:22,420
Okay.

1093
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:23,240
Yeah.

1094
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:24,100
Exactly.

1095
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:30,800
I mean, I know like when we, whether it's speakers or event planning, you've got specific

1096
01:10:31,620 --> 01:10:38,120
magazines for targeted audience like an event planner or someone where I personally don't

1097
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:43,820
think this is a bad investment for that amount of money, that you know I know

1098
01:10:43,820 --> 01:10:50,360
how much I spend on travel and like I can spend that on any given trip and so

1099
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:55,020
it's part of the risk but if you have a layered approach so you have the

1100
01:10:55,020 --> 01:11:00,640
branding and it's part of a layered plan and you're doing the meetings and you're

1101
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:06,380
meeting with the people and you've got the digital and people are looking to

1102
01:11:06,380 --> 01:11:10,700
invest and then you're leveraging off the state of Texas from an economic development.

1103
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:17,220
You're just, you're creating a leveraged approach to attraction and then you've also

1104
01:11:17,220 --> 01:11:21,080
like, when you've got a Vegas, I mean, I don't know that it would be then, you'd have

1105
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:21,760
it readyed out in.

1106
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:28,060
But at some point, you've got that as a tool to leave behind in addition to and it makes

1107
01:11:28,060 --> 01:11:29,520
a statement that we're serious.

1108
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:35,260
And there is a, you know, within marketing, the thought is also that you have to get your

1109
01:11:35,260 --> 01:11:39,420
message in front of someone's eyes a certain number of times. What were we talking about?

1110
01:11:39,500 --> 01:11:48,340
Was it 20 times? 21 times before people really that message sinks in. So like you were

1111
01:11:48,340 --> 01:11:52,420
saying with the layered approach, you kind of have it to where you want people to be seeing

1112
01:11:52,420 --> 01:11:56,160
your message in a variety of places. I mean, I know when you went to the trade shows

1113
01:11:56,160 --> 01:12:01,800
that a lot of people had already heard of us, but how many didn't? How many had it heard

1114
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:06,960
of us before and how many of those people might have given us a second thought had it not

1115
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,400
been the first time they had seen us.

1116
01:12:08,740 --> 01:12:14,140
Actually we probably had more than had not and I would just surprise that some had more

1117
01:12:14,140 --> 01:12:17,320
so in Dallas and Dallas they have everybody you need but you gotta remember when you go

1118
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:23,340
to the trade shows I see you go into the booth that has a tropical express movie you're going

1119
01:12:23,340 --> 01:12:27,500
to go there and first of all you make an appointment I'm not going to talk to you so you make an

1120
01:12:27,500 --> 01:12:30,360
appointment you go talk to them and you're going to put you in front of the representative

1121
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:35,720
that's in your region, so they're going to know you or somewhere and a lot of time you

1122
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:39,160
go to them and say, hey, you know, when I drop most press here and they'll say, oh, we

1123
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,440
just open one, this actually happened. Oh, we just open one to see if we can't have one

1124
01:12:42,440 --> 01:12:46,160
close to you, oh, when they go to the next one. You know, and they might not have, or maybe

1125
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:50,040
they're just coming into your area. There's a lot of, it's almost like speed dating.

1126
01:12:50,380 --> 01:12:54,700
Yeah, it is. I mean, I don't know what that's like. I've been married 24 years, but it's like

1127
01:12:54,700 --> 01:12:59,720
speed dating with economic development. It's not cool. And you know, I think this, to me,

1128
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:03,200
The way you get us to talk about your experience, that was the best contact.

1129
01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:06,340
When you ever go to a conference like that, you always get a list of the attendees.

1130
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:07,880
Now you can do it directly on the old campaign.

1131
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:12,240
So now you're not hoping that somebody sees a page in a magazine that was at a trade show.

1132
01:13:12,540 --> 01:13:13,440
You've got the contacts.

1133
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:17,300
If everybody was there, the ones you didn't get to see, you get to direct mail and you proceed

1134
01:13:17,300 --> 01:13:17,680
from there.

1135
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,000
I think it's a whole lot more targeted and better use of the money.

1136
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:22,340
That's a good idea.

1137
01:13:22,460 --> 01:13:23,660
That's something that we're going to do a lot more.

1138
01:13:23,900 --> 01:13:24,360
I mean, you can pay.

1139
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:26,180
I think it's like $800 or something.

1140
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:26,660
You can pay.

1141
01:13:26,740 --> 01:13:27,900
You get the actual list of vendors.

1142
01:13:27,900 --> 01:13:31,480
And you could do some kind of massive email marketing to them.

1143
01:13:32,100 --> 01:13:32,460
Absolutely.

1144
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:33,860
But it's something we have not done in the past.

1145
01:13:33,940 --> 01:13:34,600
It's a good idea.

1146
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,240
And we have the system in place to be able to do that.

1147
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:45,080
So I'm hearing a bunch of opinions that I love.

1148
01:13:45,820 --> 01:13:46,720
So what are we thinking?

1149
01:13:48,100 --> 01:13:49,640
And just take a moment on that.

1150
01:13:50,180 --> 01:13:52,360
As a staff, our job is to bring you opportunities.

1151
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:52,740
Right.

1152
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:58,120
Patty and I discuss this opportunity pretty much at length.

1153
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:06,300
We looked at them. We met with them. We even have a sample of it. I believe that's up there for if you guys want to hand it around so you see exactly what it looks like.

1154
01:14:08,580 --> 01:14:11,640
Our job is bringing to you so that you can't see it from every different facet.

1155
01:14:13,260 --> 01:14:19,420
Now it's time to proceed at your will. You let us know what it is that you want to do and then we'll go out and make that happen.

1156
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,980
I mean, I like the idea of a layered approach.

1157
01:14:25,540 --> 01:14:29,160
I also like the idea of more target than marketing.

1158
01:14:29,780 --> 01:14:30,460
So I'm really kind of...

1159
01:14:30,460 --> 01:14:31,020
You can do that.

1160
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:31,680
Yeah.

1161
01:14:32,060 --> 01:14:33,380
There's nothing that says you can't, right?

1162
01:14:33,440 --> 01:14:35,760
The whole idea is to get out there and to meet people,

1163
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:37,360
get to know people and make sure that they know us.

1164
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:39,460
And constantly remind them.

1165
01:14:40,180 --> 01:14:42,620
For me, on this one, it was like, do you spend at one time in the magazine

1166
01:14:42,620 --> 01:14:46,000
or we had one more conference to the year in a mail campaign?

1167
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,020
And to me, I'd rather take the money and go to another company.

1168
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:50,860
But this has to be easy to work.

1169
01:14:51,020 --> 01:14:55,000
I mean, again, this is targeted to what it is that you want to do.

1170
01:14:55,140 --> 01:14:56,660
And this is the 2025 one.

1171
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:58,220
But we don't do it this year.

1172
01:14:58,360 --> 01:14:59,140
You want to try it next year.

1173
01:14:59,240 --> 01:14:59,900
Maybe you do it this year.

1174
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:26,420
And not next year. Maybe say we're going to do it on all the even years, or all the odds, whatever you want to do. Because you want to spread that out, and then maybe on the audit, if you do it on the even years, and on the odd years, you go to that extra conference or whatever that looks like. And this has a tool, right? Another tool of the tool, yes. This has a shelf life, this has, you know, a shelf life of a year, right? So it's kind of making its rounds around for a year to do the different trade shows and such.

1175
01:15:26,420 --> 01:15:33,480
If this just you said you're not sure the digital impressions and so it's thirty six hundred dollars just for the print.

1176
01:15:33,700 --> 01:15:35,860
No, it includes digital impressions as well.

1177
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:39,000
I know I was looking up to see if it was on that.

1178
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:46,000
It says digital distribution to site selection investor, watch the scribers, so whoever subscribed to it.

1179
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:51,880
And then print distribution at IAMC forms and other Conway data events.

1180
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:56,760
In addition to that, 5,000 printed copies distributed to the Conway Data Texas Economic Development

1181
01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:01,940
Partners, intentions workforce partners at trade shows events and mission trips and 75

1182
01:16:01,940 --> 01:16:07,520
or poly bagged, we'll probably add with the main issue of site selection magazine.

1183
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:11,740
So it'll also be part of the site selection magazine, so it does get this in part of folks

1184
01:16:11,740 --> 01:16:14,040
who are looking for actual sites to go build.

1185
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:20,920
Just seems like a weak attempt at lead generation, you know, and I'm inundated with lead generation

1186
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:27,540
people trying to get me to come in to my business, my industry, they just don't produce, they

1187
01:16:27,540 --> 01:16:28,220
just don't.

1188
01:16:30,860 --> 01:16:34,920
So, man, I got to tell you, I really appreciate the very opinions to be out

1189
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:40,920
in here and I don't think there's a bad choice. So I'm hoping if you want to move, we don't

1190
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:46,160
have to make a move motion on it, we can do it. I do know, and I'm not going to speak for

1191
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:50,720
him, but I will say that in the past, I've heard Councilman brought a speak out against

1192
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:57,160
print media before. I'm pretty sure you'd have a pretty strong opinion on it. Man, I'm pretty sure it does. I'm

1193
01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:02,360
pretty sure I'm going to have a pretty strong opinion on it. So I mean, not everybody's here today. I'm open to whatever you guys want to do. I'm

1194
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:10,600
really going on on the fence. Let's say table it. Get their opinions as well. I'm I agree with Darren. I mean, I did print advertising for 20 years. I

1195
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:17,360
mean, I wouldn't spend any more money on print advertising ever again. So you make it emotional. Yes, to table this.

1196
01:17:20,380 --> 01:17:20,700
There's

1197
01:17:20,700 --> 01:17:21,660
All those are favorites down.

1198
01:17:22,100 --> 01:17:22,320
Hi.

1199
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:23,200
Thanks.

1200
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:23,840
All right.

1201
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:25,300
Man, the good discussion guys.

1202
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:26,300
It's a good discussion.

1203
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:28,280
All right.

1204
01:17:28,540 --> 01:17:28,880
Next item.

1205
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,640
Nine H. Add signers for case of easy checking count.

1206
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:35,380
It takes first bank.

1207
01:17:35,980 --> 01:17:42,680
I'm going to ask that we table this one also because we would have had to re-elect officers on

1208
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:43,280
this agenda.

1209
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,900
We did not do it because we were going to miss people.

1210
01:17:46,900 --> 01:17:51,820
So I think we should do this after re-rehealing the officers to be able to have the appropriate people on there.

1211
01:17:52,620 --> 01:17:53,640
Right, because you're probably going to be with the president.

1212
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:57,960
You probably want the vice president to find whoever the treasurer

1213
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:01,020
is going to be, right?

1214
01:18:03,260 --> 01:18:05,760
Who's the two of me and me, right?

1215
01:18:07,260 --> 01:18:08,840
I mean, I don't think that to be officers.

1216
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:11,280
Why doesn't that just cleaner, don't you?

1217
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:13,760
No problem whatsoever.

1218
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,380
If the motion is disabled to the next meeting, we'd easily do that.

1219
01:18:17,740 --> 01:18:24,560
Just understand that it's going to be just the two folks hiding checks until then and stop the work from happening has it?

1220
01:18:38,260 --> 01:18:39,920
Do you promise to be released to the next meeting?

1221
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:44,680
I mean, it's not going to get back track but sure.

1222
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:46,160
What if they both went rogue?

1223
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:47,660
Could happen.

1224
01:18:48,020 --> 01:18:52,340
We'll only bring this forward because it's the best practice so whatever you guys are ready we'll proceed.

1225
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:53,920
We'll bring it back to the next meeting.

1226
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,120
Make a motion to table it next to you.

1227
01:18:57,260 --> 01:18:58,400
Wait a second.

1228
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:00,200
Second.

1229
01:19:00,860 --> 01:19:01,080
All right.

1230
01:19:01,180 --> 01:19:01,360
All right.

1231
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:01,500
All right.

1232
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:02,400
All right.

1233
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:02,580
All right.

1234
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:05,200
Nine.

1235
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:06,000
Hi.

1236
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,740
Consideration and fossil election on a partnership with Professor Patrick Peters.

1237
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:17,940
And his University of Easing Graduate Architectural Class for the design of a Memorial Park in honor of Joanne Blackledge, former First Lady of Kima.

1238
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,800
Now, I don't even know if I just don't have a couple of things I won't say about it.

1239
01:19:22,860 --> 01:19:23,420
Sure, that's okay.

1240
01:19:24,780 --> 01:19:28,940
I knew Joanne Blackness for a very long time and there's probably nobody more deserving

1241
01:19:28,940 --> 01:19:31,300
in this town, I have a partner here, lovely lady.

1242
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:39,200
I don't know that we are going through the correct process on this because normally when we

1243
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:43,900
spend money like that, we have to declare a project, it's kind of good, period, 60 day.

1244
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:45,620
I mean, I don't know that we've done that for this.

1245
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,560
But I know we haven't done a particular project.

1246
01:19:51,480 --> 01:19:53,140
You got any input on that?

1247
01:19:53,620 --> 01:19:53,880
Sure.

1248
01:19:56,380 --> 01:19:59,380
The project was brought forward at the last meeting.

1249
01:20:00,060 --> 01:20:02,600
We did have Professor Peters come and present.

1250
01:20:03,500 --> 01:20:08,060
The idea is for it to be located at the city owned property adjacent to T-bone Tom's.

1251
01:20:08,740 --> 01:20:12,060
But not everyone thinks that that's actually T-bone Tom's property and it's not.

1252
01:20:12,060 --> 01:20:16,660
It's actually city property that is at some point designated to be a city park

1253
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,700
Professor Peters and his U of H grad students. We met with them

1254
01:20:22,700 --> 01:20:27,040
Captain what was it a week and a half ago maybe or or like up to two weeks ago

1255
01:20:27,580 --> 01:20:31,400
And we we went over the entire site. He took pictures took measurements

1256
01:20:32,060 --> 01:20:39,180
The ideas for the class to come forward and create a concept of design for the park. So the project has been identified as to be at that park

1257
01:20:41,580 --> 01:20:47,020
The idea is to incorporate elements that are functional, inviting, and safe space for

1258
01:20:47,020 --> 01:20:52,100
the community for things such as open air farmers markets, small community events, maybe

1259
01:20:52,100 --> 01:20:57,500
even a dedicated, selfie spot, photo-friendly installations, but either way for it to be

1260
01:20:57,500 --> 01:20:59,820
a welcoming public space and enhances community engagement.

1261
01:21:00,580 --> 01:21:04,080
If you go to the map, Natasha, if you don't mind, just going down on the next page.

1262
01:21:04,540 --> 01:21:06,780
If you zoom in on that, just a little bit, just so we can see it more.

1263
01:21:07,500 --> 01:21:09,660
So, that's the area in question there now.

1264
01:21:09,940 --> 01:21:12,980
The rectangle designates where it would essentially be.

1265
01:21:13,740 --> 01:21:18,320
The idea is for it to be almost a pavilion of some sort

1266
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:21,740
that would exist there that you could have smaller events there

1267
01:21:21,740 --> 01:21:24,240
on site if you want to use it for a wedding,

1268
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:26,380
for whatever you may want to have,

1269
01:21:26,480 --> 01:21:27,880
but there needs to have an installation there.

1270
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:31,400
But also in respect to the trees and to the actual space,

1271
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:32,780
and I don't interrupt the space at all,

1272
01:21:33,440 --> 01:21:35,580
that would be one of the products that we're looking at there.

1273
01:21:35,580 --> 01:21:40,160
They did actually measure it out to have 10 by 10 spaces and booths around so you could fit

1274
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:46,040
I believe up to 35 if I remember correct that's correct market spices to actually be there

1275
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,460
And that concludes pretty much what we're presenting tonight

1276
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:57,460
The next page does show what the proposed budget would be the idea that they would build this at this cost if not lower

1277
01:21:58,820 --> 01:22:02,420
But if you're very comfortable and confident that they're going to get a large part of these materials

1278
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:03,720
donated

1279
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:08,600
And if you look at what they're proposing to build it for, we're looking at about $25,000.

1280
01:22:09,180 --> 01:22:16,460
But if you look further, they're looking for a contingency of $15,000 and a reimbursement for the design workshop

1281
01:22:16,460 --> 01:22:19,300
to take place by the University of about $10,000.

1282
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:23,840
So the original ask wasn't going to be hovering around $35,000, which it was.

1283
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,980
Not inclusive of the contingency should anything go wrong.

1284
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:30,740
Their plan is to be closer to $35,000, obviously.

1285
01:22:33,420 --> 01:22:37,720
They need it pretty quickly because the students are going to be doing this as part of this

1286
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:38,240
semester.

1287
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:40,620
The students are already working on this design.

1288
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:45,940
They've already commenced and actually they'll be here tomorrow night for Council meeting

1289
01:22:45,940 --> 01:22:50,520
right before Council to have a small discussion with Mayor on this project.

1290
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:56,820
Obviously it's open and Professor Peter assuming that you guys move this on this tonight will also

1291
01:22:56,820 --> 01:22:58,780
make the presentation tomorrow to Council.

1292
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:02,500
But, again, my question about proving it as a project.

1293
01:23:02,780 --> 01:23:04,780
We're not supposed to spend money unless the project is approved,

1294
01:23:05,700 --> 01:23:07,700
and we've gone through the process of approving a project,

1295
01:23:07,820 --> 01:23:08,700
which we have not done on this.

1296
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:13,340
This wouldn't fall under another project that we already have going.

1297
01:23:13,780 --> 01:23:14,820
Which is?

1298
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,440
Don't we have a project established for the Master Park Plan?

1299
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:22,660
I understand that this was part of the Park Plan.

1300
01:23:23,180 --> 01:23:23,320
Correct.

1301
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:25,980
This was named in the Master Park Plan.

1302
01:23:25,980 --> 01:23:28,260
I don't think it was named...

1303
01:23:28,260 --> 01:23:31,220
I don't think it was named by the name that we have it to

1304
01:23:32,340 --> 01:23:35,220
miss a blacklist, but I do know that it was one of the spots

1305
01:23:35,220 --> 01:23:35,660
that was.

1306
01:23:35,860 --> 01:23:41,020
And then another question I have is, is there a way,

1307
01:23:41,700 --> 01:23:44,400
because the mural park right around the corner was built

1308
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:45,080
with hot puns.

1309
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:48,920
You see, there's a photo op-section in it, and I

1310
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:49,820
have a lot of the same aspects.

1311
01:23:50,700 --> 01:23:53,180
Why is this not a hot pun issue?

1312
01:23:55,340 --> 01:23:56,040
Great question.

1313
01:23:56,420 --> 01:23:59,260
If it's the will of us to make this a hot fun project,

1314
01:23:59,260 --> 01:24:05,640
that's fine. We need to designate which aspect of it would be hot. For example, that park

1315
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:10,420
was built already, right? The visitor center was done, and the mural park was an addition

1316
01:24:10,420 --> 01:24:14,580
or an add-on to the park, right? That made it that. If you at some point wanted to make

1317
01:24:14,580 --> 01:24:20,500
this into another mural park, if you wanted to make it add the selfie stations or a statue

1318
01:24:20,500 --> 01:24:24,220
or anything else, that would probably be the component that's considered hot. But the park

1319
01:24:24,220 --> 01:24:29,340
itself, the number will be brought to you tonight from 57 Acre Park or Foster Park or Wiggins Park,

1320
01:24:29,480 --> 01:24:35,500
the initial kind of kickoff to those would be one of those aspects. So, again, it is your call,

1321
01:24:35,620 --> 01:24:41,500
if you prefer for this to be a hat item, that would be taken action tomorrow night. But either way,

1322
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:46,980
right now, it's unapproval to happen to come out of KCDC funds because obviously all KCDC

1323
01:24:46,980 --> 01:24:49,860
funds have to also go to council, that's what's on the agenda for tomorrow night.

1324
01:24:49,860 --> 01:25:02,720
If we choose to, if we choose to, if you choose to, if it was to choose to be, maybe push it to council to do it is not fun, is there, is council a general member at the remind me business, is the council agenda and brought it up to handle that?

1325
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:18,300
As of right now, you can always change the funding source and how you want to do it. For example, I don't know, again, assuming that this would be an allowable hot fund expense, I don't have to look at the hot fund category to see if this would be a hot fund allowable expects from, from a legal perspective.

1326
01:25:18,300 --> 01:25:27,920
If it is allowable as as an actual expense, then yes, and that could be done or maybe you choose to say hey, we're going to split it 50-50 or 60-40 or whatever.

1327
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:40,040
So it's from a procedural standpoint, if we approved to move it forward and takes it out of KCDC, then tomorrow counsel because they ultimately would have to approve it.

1328
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:40,400
Correct.

1329
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:47,620
And then they can determine if it's all KCDC or if it's some hot fun.

1330
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:51,180
We can make that as we can confirm that from tonight and tomorrow.

1331
01:25:51,500 --> 01:25:56,900
We could approve to make it a project tonight and at the end of 60 days then we can write

1332
01:25:56,900 --> 01:25:57,800
the check for it.

1333
01:25:57,900 --> 01:26:02,300
It's a 60 day period that it has to be well in 60 days for them whenever they publish it.

1334
01:26:02,420 --> 01:26:02,960
That was the idea.

1335
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:09,560
And potentially we could make a project or reimburse the city for the deal.

1336
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,020
I mean, you know, I don't know Kyle would have to answer those questions.

1337
01:26:12,300 --> 01:26:17,500
So, but City Council could approve it tomorrow night, even though the project's not, you know,

1338
01:26:17,500 --> 01:26:22,020
I think, or if they're next meeting, but you're still, if we do it through a project process,

1339
01:26:22,020 --> 01:26:24,580
it'll be 62 days or 63 days.

1340
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:29,260
I think before we can write a check, but everything else could be done in between all that time.

1341
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,780
You just have to wait till the 60th day after it's published.

1342
01:26:33,460 --> 01:26:39,540
Sherry can be heard. So I want to talk about this just a hot minute. I spent a good while

1343
01:26:39,540 --> 01:26:45,300
today discussing with Mayor Collins. Obviously because she was here during the presentation

1344
01:26:45,300 --> 01:26:54,280
and someone who advocated for this originally and I tried to reach out to this Patrick about

1345
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:58,580
this to kind of get some ideas and kind of understand what was going on because when I first heard

1346
01:26:58,580 --> 01:27:03,640
about this project, I was here before I was on here, you know, it kind of stuck out to

1347
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:10,420
me and people that were watching along and were watching me about it, it kind of appeared

1348
01:27:10,420 --> 01:27:14,820
originally like, you know, it almost sound like it would be a windfall for T-bone

1349
01:27:14,820 --> 01:27:20,700
Tom's because obviously they're parking is right there, there's a lot of people there during

1350
01:27:20,700 --> 01:27:26,160
especially the busy times, those people are going to obviously, you know, start to maneuver

1351
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:29,220
over into that point and they'll probably be back and forth and that type of

1352
01:27:29,220 --> 01:27:32,560
issue and obviously everybody at the mural park is going to be coming in but

1353
01:27:33,220 --> 01:27:38,380
what Mayor Collins explained to me is that one of the ideas for this is not to

1354
01:27:38,380 --> 01:27:42,700
just benefit T-bone Tom's but because that foot traffic is there because there

1355
01:27:42,700 --> 01:27:46,960
are people going to be meandering over there at all hours of the day from T-bone

1356
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:50,000
Tom's and from the rest of you know I'm from Tuckin Alley and that type of

1357
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:55,140
thing if this was there the discussion about an open-air farmer's market you know

1358
01:27:55,140 --> 01:27:57,320
So that's something that if we could get going once a month,

1359
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,340
and it got popular, that's big business.

1360
01:28:01,620 --> 01:28:04,120
Having dedicated spots to have vendors,

1361
01:28:04,700 --> 01:28:05,900
make it real nice and clean,

1362
01:28:06,180 --> 01:28:07,040
to get that kind of thing.

1363
01:28:07,780 --> 01:28:09,280
That would encourage some small businesses,

1364
01:28:09,460 --> 01:28:10,840
and who knows, maybe some of them take off,

1365
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:13,060
maybe some of them come here, they see Kima,

1366
01:28:13,100 --> 01:28:15,520
and this is actually, they're in here, they're looking at it.

1367
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:17,420
Hey, I think I want to open a shop here,

1368
01:28:17,500 --> 01:28:18,540
I want to open a restaurant here,

1369
01:28:18,580 --> 01:28:19,560
I want to do these types of things,

1370
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,300
so maybe they can start small or work the way up,

1371
01:28:22,460 --> 01:28:24,100
and obviously we can use it for community.

1372
01:28:24,100 --> 01:28:27,940
and for selfie spots and you know that kind of thing is just you know an added

1373
01:28:27,940 --> 01:28:34,420
perk to this but also Cesar mentioned that there is a possible place to

1374
01:28:34,420 --> 01:28:38,720
generate revenue from it if we can make it to where it's nice enough and secure

1375
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:44,400
enough where people could actually rent it and use it for parties and weddings and

1376
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:48,580
things like that. That's a potential revenue stream especially when it's not like

1377
01:28:48,580 --> 01:28:52,980
a busy time and you know there can be a wedding here we can do that kind of thing

1378
01:28:52,980 --> 01:28:57,760
And we can shut that kind of stuff off for, you know, 30 minutes, but we can have revenue

1379
01:28:57,760 --> 01:28:58,780
generated that way.

1380
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:02,640
And so the idea wasn't just to help T-bone Tom's in that aspect.

1381
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,060
I mean, obviously, those people are going to be moving over there and that's going to be

1382
01:29:06,060 --> 01:29:12,060
a popular spot to be right there, but also because you want Mary Collins, you know, thinks

1383
01:29:12,060 --> 01:29:16,160
that it will come in and it will bring other stuff in and engage with that tourism aspect.

1384
01:29:16,340 --> 01:29:22,580
Now, the other thing is, I think, and Caesar mentioned this, you know, Mary Collins has a lot

1385
01:29:22,580 --> 01:29:26,040
of experience in this type of issue, you know, with this, you know, with this industry

1386
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:31,800
and this issue did, she did the master gardeners things and basically when this kind of

1387
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:37,660
stuff happened and her experience, a lot of it was paid through, paid for through donations.

1388
01:29:38,100 --> 01:29:43,460
And so we could be approving this amount of money, all of it could get paid for. Everything

1389
01:29:43,460 --> 01:29:47,540
could get paid for, or large portions of it, you know, large part of the bench is, you know,

1390
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:51,120
the flooring, all that kind of stuff may be paid through for donations. That has been her experience

1391
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:57,280
what I understand. So it would give us that ability, you know, we may not end up spending

1392
01:29:57,920 --> 01:29:59,800
all that amount of money and that gives us a

1393
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,300
We're in place to where we could actually pull together things like a farmer's market, like vendors, and that type of thing. And that would be their special spot, as opposed to putting them out in some open parking lot, something like that. And I think that's something that people would really like. I think that would generate tourism. It would generate an extra perk for people who are coming to the boardwalk. Oh, hey, I'm here on a Saturday afternoon, the summer, and there's a farmer's market. There is vendors over there, and it's not just people set up in tents.

1394
01:30:29,300 --> 01:30:33,620
it's in a parking lot like it is a set place for them

1395
01:30:34,140 --> 01:30:36,360
that looks really nice because we do in this and I just,

1396
01:30:36,420 --> 01:30:37,340
I think it's a great idea.

1397
01:30:37,980 --> 01:30:40,900
I asked how it was gonna work because obviously

1398
01:30:40,900 --> 01:30:42,960
we're in a semester and we have the 68-A period

1399
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:43,980
for whatever reason.

1400
01:30:44,260 --> 01:30:46,640
So, these students are already working on it like he said.

1401
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,480
There's a good chance that it's not gonna start

1402
01:30:49,480 --> 01:30:52,060
before these students are done with their semester.

1403
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:55,520
And so I think what the idea was according to Mayor Collins

1404
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:58,880
is that you're probably looking at it actually being done

1405
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:02,440
and generated, correct me if I'm wrong, my understanding is it may be done or generated

1406
01:31:02,440 --> 01:31:06,540
in one of the summer mini-mesters, there's two summer mini-mesters, so you're probably

1407
01:31:06,540 --> 01:31:09,760
looking at it being started and done at that point.

1408
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:16,960
So you're looking at that fine, so the quicker we get it done, we can get those students working

1409
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:22,500
on it, get it set up, and get it moving, and then I think that's kind of a timeline for

1410
01:31:22,500 --> 01:31:22,600
it.

1411
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:26,240
I asked Mayor Collins, and I need to get an answer from the school.

1412
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:30,880
I would love it if the vendors that they used for construction.

1413
01:31:32,480 --> 01:31:36,720
Obviously, the user of contractors, the user of vendors that go through the school and are approved by the school.

1414
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:38,000
That's an easy process.

1415
01:31:38,780 --> 01:31:40,780
I would love it if some of them came from here, too.

1416
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:46,360
If we could get it to where some of our own people, our own contractors, our vendors, construction,

1417
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,460
anything like that came from King, I think that's an added bonus, too.

1418
01:31:50,140 --> 01:31:51,480
And that's still kind of up in the air.

1419
01:31:51,480 --> 01:31:59,880
I don't know, I don't have a solid answer on that, but that's something I would really like even if we didn't, if we did approve it, maybe that's an extra bonus if we could get that done to you.

1420
01:32:01,440 --> 01:32:09,620
The idea on that, just if I could comment is from Professor Peters, he does as much as possible to get as much of these items donated.

1421
01:32:11,060 --> 01:32:16,600
So as was mentioned the hope is again all donated if we can but that's why they keep some

1422
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:27,260
of these vendors probably big alumni that's used and everybody else they do love putting these efforts out.

1423
01:32:27,420 --> 01:32:33,960
I mean if anything we'll probably have to be compensated for the labor but as far as the materials the hope is it get a lot of these materials donated.

1424
01:32:34,380 --> 01:32:37,100
So what is the motion you need to move forward?

1425
01:32:37,100 --> 01:32:43,380
If you choose to move it forward, we would need approval not to exceed whatever the total project was $49.965.

1426
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:44,360
That was $35,000.

1427
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:47,940
35,000 if you don't want to put the contingency.

1428
01:32:48,140 --> 01:32:52,220
If you want to include the contingency, it comes to $49.965.20.

1429
01:32:52,340 --> 01:32:54,820
The budget item actually says $35,000.

1430
01:32:55,140 --> 01:32:55,420
Correct.

1431
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:57,680
Because at the time, that's where it was.

1432
01:32:58,460 --> 01:32:59,960
But you don't have to follow that exact amount.

1433
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:01,640
You could say that.

1434
01:33:02,020 --> 01:33:05,860
No, we would make a motion to move the project forward.

1435
01:33:05,860 --> 01:33:11,160
with the contingency up to $49.5.

1436
01:33:11,580 --> 01:33:12,780
$49.95.

1437
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:16,700
Before you make a motion,

1438
01:33:17,220 --> 01:33:21,820
you know, board member Dustin Oliver submitted an email

1439
01:33:21,820 --> 01:33:25,120
that he asked to be submitted as record on his behalf.

1440
01:33:25,420 --> 01:33:26,440
He did not address it to me.

1441
01:33:26,860 --> 01:33:29,080
He addressed it to Nasasha and to Caesar.

1442
01:33:30,220 --> 01:33:33,680
He actually has a pretty strong affinity on it on item four.

1443
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:34,700
or if you want to read it.

1444
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:36,040
Certainly.

1445
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:40,700
I have the prank off if you want to.

1446
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:41,760
Okay, I'm here.

1447
01:33:44,740 --> 01:33:45,820
For item nine, aye.

1448
01:33:46,500 --> 01:33:48,660
I understand the land is owned by the City of Ikeema,

1449
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:50,900
and this partnership could have very positive outcomes,

1450
01:33:50,900 --> 01:33:53,300
but I have an issue that we are looking to make improvements

1451
01:33:53,300 --> 01:33:54,900
to an area that benefits one business.

1452
01:33:56,660 --> 01:33:58,780
One business that recently posted some media

1453
01:33:58,780 --> 01:34:00,340
that they were building out a bar extension

1454
01:34:00,340 --> 01:34:02,640
that just happened to the service area we are discussing.

1455
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:10,480
Wednesdays I find that hard to believe there are plenty of green spaces or hardscapes in our currently developed parks that would benefit from a shade structure.

1456
01:34:11,780 --> 01:34:13,140
Thank you for including us on the record.

1457
01:34:15,380 --> 01:34:16,920
So he was generally opposed to it.

1458
01:34:19,180 --> 01:34:27,420
And I have the same concern at first because I was like this sounds like this is just going to benefit his own Tom's but I don't think that's the case.

1459
01:34:27,420 --> 01:34:32,600
in, you know, we have to be honest, like, that place generates a lot of business and a lot of traffic.

1460
01:34:33,220 --> 01:34:39,280
I mean, like, you want people to come to Kema to eat steak, T-bone toms is your place,

1461
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:44,120
but if you want Kema to come, people to come to Kema eat steak and maybe wander over to our

1462
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:49,620
parks and kind of wander over to everything else, this is a, this is really good foot traffic,

1463
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:53,800
you know, give them the credit to do. They generate a lot of business.

1464
01:34:54,500 --> 01:34:59,520
So based on Dustin's opinion, I know he's not here to speak to it, but what's the alternative

1465
01:34:59,980 --> 01:35:01,660
in that work that we're going to do at this park?

1466
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:06,140
Because we don't want to spend money because it's too close to T-bone Tom's.

1467
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:08,660
I mean, it's a landmark.

1468
01:35:09,480 --> 01:35:10,380
T-bone Tom's a landmark.

1469
01:35:10,700 --> 01:35:11,580
Well, let me say this.

1470
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:21,400
So one other thought that came to mind when you talk about the farmers market is staff to be able to handle that.

1471
01:35:22,620 --> 01:35:26,400
Any time we want the city staff to do that, we already have a bird city staff.

1472
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:31,740
I mean, is it Jerry who still handles the community center?

1473
01:35:31,980 --> 01:35:32,100
Yes.

1474
01:35:32,860 --> 01:35:37,400
I mean, that's probably another, something else for her to do, and she would have to be able to schedule that.

1475
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:41,180
Unless you just contract it out to somebody, maybe read the whole thing out to somebody like.

1476
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:43,120
The last thing you talked about for your name.

1477
01:35:44,020 --> 01:35:45,060
To do the market days or whatever.

1478
01:35:45,420 --> 01:35:46,300
I think it could get sponsors.

1479
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:53,560
I'm highly, you guys have vendor house who are chomping out the bid to get serious.

1480
01:35:53,860 --> 01:35:58,740
They're just waiting for us to get them to a place and to not be so wishy-washy with

1481
01:35:58,740 --> 01:36:03,080
them because it messes up their business big time the way we've done it in the past.

1482
01:36:04,460 --> 01:36:06,580
So no, I don't think that'll be an issue at all.

1483
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:07,840
That's an easy con.

1484
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:08,480
So what do you do though?

1485
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:09,900
Do you charge them for the space?

1486
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:11,180
So yeah.

1487
01:36:11,940 --> 01:36:13,040
So are take a portion?

1488
01:36:13,620 --> 01:36:13,760
Yeah.

1489
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:15,920
So what was done in the past, I'm starting it up.

1490
01:36:16,020 --> 01:36:17,960
What was done with the past with the Community Center was,

1491
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:20,800
Community Center was rented out to vendor who would then

1492
01:36:22,220 --> 01:36:23,980
almost sublyse the space out to other vendors,

1493
01:36:23,980 --> 01:36:25,360
and then they would have markets that way.

1494
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:27,980
So if it was done that way, it could be consumed that way.

1495
01:36:28,100 --> 01:36:30,000
If it was going to be as a wedding or anything else,

1496
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:32,780
we would do it no different than how we

1497
01:36:32,780 --> 01:36:34,040
ran out the Community Center now.

1498
01:36:34,180 --> 01:36:35,600
You just have to be very careful because I've never

1499
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:38,140
read the issue with that was they ran the Community Center.

1500
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:40,420
And I see, you know, they're running spaces of rats,

1501
01:36:40,460 --> 01:36:41,700
and maybe you didn't want it to do that.

1502
01:36:42,260 --> 01:36:44,460
So, I mean, that's just something, like, I hear what you're saying.

1503
01:36:44,480 --> 01:36:45,440
We have to be very direct.

1504
01:36:45,580 --> 01:36:47,400
You have to be very specific, because...

1505
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:48,440
We need to build it first.

1506
01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:48,860
Yeah.

1507
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:51,620
If you build it, the farmers will come.

1508
01:36:53,060 --> 01:36:53,400
Actually...

1509
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:56,000
It is a 146-phasing farmer.

1510
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:56,620
Seriously.

1511
01:36:57,720 --> 01:36:58,060
For...

1512
01:36:58,060 --> 01:36:58,920
It's going to generate revenue.

1513
01:36:59,060 --> 01:36:59,400
Oh, yeah.

1514
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:00,580
For...

1515
01:37:00,580 --> 01:37:01,200
I mean, you can have rules.

1516
01:37:01,540 --> 01:37:02,840
We had one at a long time.

1517
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:03,560
It turned out to be short.

1518
01:37:03,820 --> 01:37:04,840
It was highly successful.

1519
01:37:04,940 --> 01:37:05,840
It was a long waiting list.

1520
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:08,380
I mean, and we only put natural...

1521
01:37:08,380 --> 01:37:09,040
It was certified.

1522
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:10,160
Texas Natural.

1523
01:37:10,660 --> 01:37:11,200
Something or other.

1524
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:15,680
blah blah blah and there's really good stuff it wasn't trinkets and all that and you know but we just

1525
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:21,200
had volunteers to kind of run it and we hired somebody they got 10% of the take you know and they would make sure the

1526
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:26,360
chance are at the right place of course you know so there's a way to do it I don't think the main is to be too bad

1527
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:32,360
six successful little pay for itself would you just charge the board just have to be able to do that right that's gonna be your job and

1528
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:39,620
your job to do that we're creating more work for you guys we will and I'm not doing my job if I don't create a

1529
01:37:47,020 --> 01:37:55,240
We will address that through a competitive process that I'll bring back in a future agenda item, but Deco what was said can't do anything until it's built.

1530
01:37:55,240 --> 01:38:01,060
So whatever, whatever the, whatever the groups will is, we will follow.

1531
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:05,680
I think the motion that we move forward on this project for the funding of $49.5.5.

1532
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:10,960
That includes the contingency hoping that we land at $35,000 with donations.

1533
01:38:11,900 --> 01:38:12,360
Seconded.

1534
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:13,360
All right.

1535
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:14,320
We have a person.

1536
01:38:14,420 --> 01:38:14,760
A second.

1537
01:38:14,900 --> 01:38:15,800
All of a favor say aye.

1538
01:38:16,180 --> 01:38:16,580
All right.

1539
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:19,060
I'm going to vote no on behalf of Dustin Oliver.

1540
01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:20,540
Dustin, I hope you listening.

1541
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:21,340
Here's proxy.

1542
01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:22,080
Yes.

1543
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:24,780
All right.

1544
01:38:24,780 --> 01:38:27,460
It's four to one, four to one.

1545
01:38:28,440 --> 01:38:31,480
All right, good job.

1546
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:33,560
Good job.

1547
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:35,940
9K, update, contract negotiations with rent,

1548
01:38:36,220 --> 01:38:38,920
fund, or for self-service, equipment and kiosks

1549
01:38:39,180 --> 01:38:40,820
at our existing part and destinations.

1550
01:38:42,700 --> 01:38:45,400
Yes, the PowerPoint presentation that

1551
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:49,480
is attached in your package essentially

1552
01:38:49,480 --> 01:38:52,060
shows a follow-up to the meeting the presentation

1553
01:38:52,060 --> 01:38:55,180
as you had at the last meeting with all the kiosk.

1554
01:38:55,300 --> 01:38:55,340
Yes.

1555
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:55,960
Sorry.

1556
01:38:56,100 --> 01:38:57,700
Can you stick to that guy on the line?

1557
01:38:58,740 --> 01:38:59,360
Did he?

1558
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:01,600
The contingency.

1559
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:03,200
Yes, absolutely right.

1560
01:39:03,820 --> 01:39:04,700
Oh, thank you, Ray.

1561
01:39:04,900 --> 01:39:05,720
I guess that's tied together?

1562
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:06,300
My bad.

1563
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:06,540
Yes.

1564
01:39:07,140 --> 01:39:07,260
You had to do it.

1565
01:39:07,260 --> 01:39:08,640
I'd do a consideration policy election

1566
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:11,060
to approve budget amendment for Professor Patrick Peters

1567
01:39:11,060 --> 01:39:14,420
and his university of Houston Graduate

1568
01:39:14,420 --> 01:39:16,900
Architectural Glass for the design of a memorial park

1569
01:39:16,900 --> 01:39:19,100
in honor of joint blood, but former Presley of Kima

1570
01:39:19,100 --> 01:39:21,580
in a mountain not to exceed $35,000.

1571
01:39:23,020 --> 01:39:24,620
We have the fund support out of it.

1572
01:39:24,700 --> 01:39:31,260
It needs to be amended to match the motion that was approved up to

1573
01:39:31,260 --> 01:39:33,340
the amount to $49.5.

1574
01:39:34,740 --> 01:39:35,440
What's that amount?

1575
01:39:36,060 --> 01:39:38,460
It's $49.5.

1576
01:39:45,390 --> 01:39:46,630
$49.9.5.

1577
01:39:46,850 --> 01:39:47,310
$6.22.

1578
01:39:47,950 --> 01:39:49,190
I think it says $9.65.

1579
01:39:49,910 --> 01:39:51,050
$9.65 was correct.

1580
01:39:51,190 --> 01:39:53,650
I think $29.65.

1581
01:39:54,970 --> 01:39:55,530
$9.65.

1582
01:39:55,530 --> 01:39:55,650
$9.65.

1583
01:39:55,850 --> 01:39:56,090
$9.65.

1584
01:39:58,550 --> 01:39:59,990
49, 965.

1585
01:40:00,970 --> 01:40:01,690
Oh,

1586
01:40:04,510 --> 01:40:05,630
am I making this motion?

1587
01:40:07,010 --> 01:40:09,250
No, you asked me where I wanted to come from.

1588
01:40:09,990 --> 01:40:10,670
I'm not sure.

1589
01:40:14,090 --> 01:40:15,270
We'll just see them out.

1590
01:40:16,710 --> 01:40:17,890
49, 965.

1591
01:40:19,270 --> 01:40:27,530
I make a motion to approve the budget amendment for 49 and 965.

1592
01:40:27,530 --> 01:40:31,610
25 and 22 cents to come from

1593
01:40:32,690 --> 01:40:33,290
contingency.

1594
01:40:33,830 --> 01:40:34,430
Seconded.

1595
01:40:34,750 --> 01:40:37,510
We got a motion by rain.

1596
01:40:37,870 --> 01:40:39,630
I'm a multitude of seconds.

1597
01:40:40,070 --> 01:40:40,670
Project.

1598
01:40:41,510 --> 01:40:43,050
All those papers say aye.

1599
01:40:43,190 --> 01:40:43,350
Aye.

1600
01:40:44,910 --> 01:40:45,010
Aye.

1601
01:40:45,310 --> 01:40:45,450
Aye.

1602
01:40:45,670 --> 01:40:46,090
We're off.

1603
01:40:47,450 --> 01:40:47,630
Aye.

1604
01:40:50,210 --> 01:40:56,370
Now, Nike, update on contract negotiations with rent fund for self-service equipment kiosk

1605
01:40:56,370 --> 01:40:59,410
at our existing park parks or destinations.

1606
01:40:59,990 --> 01:41:00,990
These are your own.

1607
01:41:01,230 --> 01:41:01,490
Thank you.

1608
01:41:01,570 --> 01:41:04,110
Mr. Tajik, could you go to the first slide of the presentation, please?

1609
01:41:05,490 --> 01:41:12,270
This slide right here shows you a park with a lot of different kiosk at it, but we did this

1610
01:41:12,270 --> 01:41:14,990
to make sure that you understood what all the capabilities would be.

1611
01:41:14,990 --> 01:41:20,970
Here you've got cornhole, you've got some botchi ball, you've got ping pong, you've got golf, you've got bikes, you've got kayaks.

1612
01:41:21,510 --> 01:41:25,210
Obviously, it doesn't include some of the other sports items that are available.

1613
01:41:26,770 --> 01:41:33,130
So, we wanted to show you what all the things you could do with this product and with what they have in capabilities.

1614
01:41:34,210 --> 01:41:41,150
You can go down to the rest of the presentation that includes some of the long games.

1615
01:41:41,150 --> 01:41:42,050
I'm just going to keep going.

1616
01:41:44,190 --> 01:41:46,810
I think it's paid 60,

1617
01:41:48,870 --> 01:41:49,570
one more.

1618
01:41:50,430 --> 01:41:51,090
One more.

1619
01:41:52,870 --> 01:41:55,930
After reviewing Foster Park, there's an area of Foster Park.

1620
01:41:56,050 --> 01:41:58,610
This shows you some of the things that capabilities that are there now.

1621
01:41:59,390 --> 01:42:01,910
So if you chose to go with just existing facilities,

1622
01:42:01,930 --> 01:42:04,750
if you had a basketball kiosk and a soccer kiosk,

1623
01:42:05,210 --> 01:42:07,610
you could do those relatively inexpensively.

1624
01:42:08,010 --> 01:42:11,250
With the amount of extra green space you could have if you wanted to be a destination,

1625
01:42:11,250 --> 01:42:16,670
those are some of the future potential spots, things that you can add within the park and those

1626
01:42:16,670 --> 01:42:21,630
would be the pricing. If you chose to do that. Remember, these are all one-time payments. If you

1627
01:42:21,630 --> 01:42:26,710
choose to proceed at this time, there's no cost to renew and you split obviously whatever revenue

1628
01:42:26,710 --> 01:42:31,850
is generated from these kiosks. Remember, they don't make any money if they don't market this properly

1629
01:42:31,850 --> 01:42:36,730
to get folks to come out and visit some of your parks and your facilities. Next slide, please.

1630
01:42:37,590 --> 01:42:42,410
And Wiggins Park, since we mentioned this earlier, these facilities that currently exist,

1631
01:42:42,510 --> 01:42:46,530
people may want to come out and play pickleball, but what if they didn't bring their stuff with them?

1632
01:42:46,970 --> 01:42:51,930
Well, now visitors can come to any of these parks, and in this case they can play pickleball, basketball or

1633
01:42:51,930 --> 01:42:55,350
volleyball if we have these chaos available now, because we have the facilities.

1634
01:42:55,950 --> 01:43:02,310
Which you don't have, there is any Bochiball, Cornhole, ping pong, or an actual minigaw fling.

1635
01:43:02,310 --> 01:43:08,870
Those are the prices and what you would like for us to proceed for for that park should you choose to do so next slide, please

1636
01:43:10,050 --> 01:43:13,290
The visitor center which is obviously adjacent to the city parking lot

1637
01:43:13,290 --> 01:43:17,930
We've talked a lot about creating this as a destination. What could we put here?

1638
01:43:18,550 --> 01:43:22,910
One of the items that could go here is bike rental nothing exists there now

1639
01:43:22,910 --> 01:43:24,110
Obviously you don't have anything

1640
01:43:24,110 --> 01:43:31,950
But if you wanted to add Cornhole or Bochi ball or ping pong or a bike rental for folks to go to certain occasions

1641
01:43:31,950 --> 01:43:34,370
to rent a bike, this could be one of those locations.

1642
01:43:35,070 --> 01:43:37,350
Obviously, this comes with everything including your bike rack,

1643
01:43:38,450 --> 01:43:41,470
your locks, your bikes, and everything would be all inclusive.

1644
01:43:42,110 --> 01:43:44,130
This is what the call to be for us to initiate

1645
01:43:44,130 --> 01:43:46,890
any of these locations for this visitor center

1646
01:43:46,890 --> 01:43:48,510
if this location is used to put it in.

1647
01:43:49,270 --> 01:43:50,030
Next slide, please.

1648
01:43:51,790 --> 01:43:53,950
In the future, if you wanted to add any of these kiosks

1649
01:43:53,950 --> 01:43:57,430
for a 57-acre park, these are some of the things

1650
01:43:57,430 --> 01:43:59,770
that could happen, as well as on the trail,

1651
01:43:59,770 --> 01:44:03,030
So the actual trail would be bike rental or disc golf.

1652
01:44:03,150 --> 01:44:06,110
These are all locations, again creating chema as a destination.

1653
01:44:06,750 --> 01:44:08,070
Each one of your stops would be a destination.

1654
01:44:08,270 --> 01:44:13,650
You could actually go to 57 Acre Park, run a bike, go down our linear park that we discussed

1655
01:44:13,650 --> 01:44:19,370
earlier tonight, go through there, end up at the visitor center, park there, go around

1656
01:44:19,370 --> 01:44:24,070
the town, go into some of those restaurants, have lunch and ride back to 57 Acre Park, all

1657
01:44:24,070 --> 01:44:25,610
without having to have a bike from home.

1658
01:44:25,610 --> 01:44:29,290
So you can come in and use this as an actual visitor's location.

1659
01:44:32,010 --> 01:44:35,810
Those are essentially the four locations that we wanted to anticipate at this time.

1660
01:44:36,530 --> 01:44:39,590
There is no kayak rental within the city limits right now today.

1661
01:44:39,890 --> 01:44:44,670
There is a kayak rental location that does not sit in Kima and actually sits in Clear Lake

1662
01:44:44,670 --> 01:44:49,110
Shores and actually this group did reach out to the receipt they can partner in some capacity

1663
01:44:49,110 --> 01:44:51,870
but as of right now there is not one within the city limits.

1664
01:44:51,870 --> 01:44:59,870
The only other location we talk about is a future marina that could exist within the city limits and possibly putting a kayak launch there.

1665
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:30,060
Besides that, at this time, we don't have a set location to launch from the kayak, where we can safely do it, where we thought that it would be fine, with all the concerns that were mentioned, Coast Guard concerns. We do not have their clearance at this time to do it anywhere else from the marina that we currently have. So this concludes this report. When we're seeking signs of direction, do you want this? Do you not? And if so, which ones do you want? Here's a menu. I'll a cart menu. We can go by a park. If you're interested for us at negotiated contract with these folks, with these prices, we can bring that

1666
01:45:30,060 --> 01:45:31,220
back to you at a future meeting.

1667
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:33,820
Thank you.

1668
01:45:37,170 --> 01:45:38,150
So you look for direction.

1669
01:45:39,010 --> 01:45:39,150
Yes sir.

1670
01:45:40,430 --> 01:45:41,370
You really want these.

1671
01:45:41,530 --> 01:45:41,750
Don't you?

1672
01:45:42,870 --> 01:45:44,750
I personally don't think we're ready for this.

1673
01:45:44,890 --> 01:45:45,190
That's fine.

1674
01:45:45,430 --> 01:45:48,050
You know, I mean, I think I don't think.

1675
01:45:48,850 --> 01:45:51,490
I think it's been identified as a need yet for the public,

1676
01:45:51,490 --> 01:45:52,170
in my opinion.

1677
01:45:53,050 --> 01:45:55,710
I mean, I see plenty of kids playing basketball over at Foster Park

1678
01:45:55,710 --> 01:45:56,470
and they have the basketball.

1679
01:45:57,130 --> 01:45:58,610
The major facility is not ready for yet.

1680
01:45:59,390 --> 01:46:01,410
We've tried to have bikes and stuff here before.

1681
01:46:02,030 --> 01:46:04,990
They hadn't really worked out because of the traffic situation.

1682
01:46:05,610 --> 01:46:07,790
You start putting people on bikes right into the lighthouse district.

1683
01:46:08,090 --> 01:46:10,010
It becomes a dangerous situation at this time.

1684
01:46:11,150 --> 01:46:14,410
We've had the pedal bikes, I think, out there one time.

1685
01:46:14,750 --> 01:46:15,210
We ran them out.

1686
01:46:15,310 --> 01:46:17,510
We had the carriages, the rickshaws at one time.

1687
01:46:17,690 --> 01:46:18,230
They ran them out.

1688
01:46:18,350 --> 01:46:20,630
We had the horse carers saying we ran them out.

1689
01:46:20,710 --> 01:46:23,430
He didn't work well down there, just in the past.

1690
01:46:24,590 --> 01:46:27,410
One way of circulators really kind of better nowadays.

1691
01:46:28,350 --> 01:46:30,950
But I just don't think it's a good fit down there at this time.

1692
01:46:30,950 --> 01:46:33,970
What about under the under the underpass the park there?

1693
01:46:35,450 --> 01:46:41,650
I mean, yeah, maybe in the future, but that part doesn't exist. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I want electric bikes. I want those little electric scooters

1694
01:46:42,110 --> 01:46:44,870
Well, actually, they were down there before and they became very dangerous because

1695
01:46:45,290 --> 01:46:48,830
There's a lot on is our darting in that traffic and then it just become become

1696
01:46:49,990 --> 01:46:50,750
hazard really

1697
01:46:50,750 --> 01:46:58,130
Yeah, it just becomes too much. So in my personal opinion, we're just I mean, maybe in the future at this particular moment time

1698
01:46:58,130 --> 01:46:59,750
I don't think we keep it ready for that

1699
01:47:00,330 --> 01:47:09,850
I think maybe once the major facility opens up and we start getting a bunch of people here and people walk around without a bottle plate with, maybe we buy a bunch of balls and call out the Allen and the sheriff.

1700
01:47:10,350 --> 01:47:16,430
I agree with you. I don't see many people walking around here because they don't have a bike. And I don't see it in my other parts.

1701
01:47:17,790 --> 01:47:19,370
But could that be in the future?

1702
01:47:19,650 --> 01:47:20,210
Yeah, possibly.

1703
01:47:21,150 --> 01:47:22,990
I just, for me, I just think in the future.

1704
01:47:23,290 --> 01:47:24,130
Could be a future project.

1705
01:47:24,130 --> 01:47:31,450
I mean, you really have to have a defined need to be able to drop, you know, $30,000, $40,000.

1706
01:47:32,210 --> 01:47:37,190
The main purpose with this was to try to direct traffic towards the visitor center as well.

1707
01:47:38,550 --> 01:47:44,610
I think the one that makes the most sense at, not at this time, but in the future probably would be the kayaks, because we don't have a facility for that.

1708
01:47:45,370 --> 01:47:48,290
But as I mentioned before, we're probably not ready for that just yet.

1709
01:47:48,290 --> 01:47:52,610
I mean, we have roughly 3 million visitors a year to drive right by that

1710
01:47:53,970 --> 01:47:56,550
Visitor's Center, so I think they should do a better job at

1711
01:47:58,910 --> 01:48:01,670
But when we look at the visitor center at the bikes, I mean

1712
01:48:02,270 --> 01:48:07,430
So they're gonna they're gonna get out parking lot. They're gonna walk there get the bike and that's where they're gonna launch

1713
01:48:07,930 --> 01:48:12,770
Bike riding around Kima. I mean, I can see it. I just don't know if like right there

1714
01:48:15,250 --> 01:48:17,450
I'm just saying visitors that don't have one

1715
01:48:18,410 --> 01:48:23,830
I'm just saying I'm not riding a bike in that area, it is dangerous, you know, I won't get hit every single time I want to ride.

1716
01:48:24,050 --> 01:48:24,810
And I know they are.

1717
01:48:25,450 --> 01:48:30,650
If you start getting a bunch of people are from here on a bike, it's not like, when you go to San Antonio, they got to San Antonio with them and Dallas.

1718
01:48:31,270 --> 01:48:33,170
He does ride him and you double them, you double them, you double them on the ground and you keep going.

1719
01:48:33,930 --> 01:48:34,490
That's what that's like.

1720
01:48:34,490 --> 01:48:35,450
Yeah, those are scooters.

1721
01:48:35,710 --> 01:48:36,390
What we're talking about today.

1722
01:48:36,390 --> 01:48:36,830
On bikes.

1723
01:48:37,250 --> 01:48:37,510
But yes.

1724
01:48:38,650 --> 01:48:38,730
Yeah.

1725
01:48:39,030 --> 01:48:41,430
So again, my opinion is, we're just not ready for that.

1726
01:48:41,550 --> 01:48:42,050
It's a great idea.

1727
01:48:42,570 --> 01:48:44,010
I was only in chemist's suited already for that.

1728
01:48:44,590 --> 01:48:47,170
Let's reconsider electric scooters at another time, okay?

1729
01:48:56,610 --> 01:49:02,910
I think a lot of what we're doing is going to bring us to this path eventually.

1730
01:49:05,310 --> 01:49:08,490
I like the idea that I don't think we're there yet.

1731
01:49:08,690 --> 01:49:13,770
I think once we have the overpass to the park under that and we will really thinking about connection.

1732
01:49:13,770 --> 01:49:17,430
question, I think that's going to be where it all works.

1733
01:49:18,990 --> 01:49:25,570
It seems to me though that if you hired a company to do bikes, maybe I'm off.

1734
01:49:26,390 --> 01:49:28,110
If you hired somebody to have the business model, I'm going to do bikes.

1735
01:49:29,830 --> 01:49:31,210
Why would we pay for that?

1736
01:49:31,350 --> 01:49:33,530
Why would they just come up with their bikes and make their money?

1737
01:49:34,090 --> 01:49:36,670
Well, because we're generating revenue from it.

1738
01:49:37,570 --> 01:49:42,010
They're maintaining it, so, like, if you don't want to, I don't know, we should never

1739
01:49:42,010 --> 01:49:42,290
own it.

1740
01:49:43,950 --> 01:49:48,190
You're putting the structure in the inventory to put it there, but it's their technology.

1741
01:49:48,550 --> 01:49:49,190
It's their marketing.

1742
01:49:49,450 --> 01:49:50,210
It's their platform.

1743
01:49:50,430 --> 01:49:51,090
It's their app.

1744
01:49:51,410 --> 01:49:56,310
You go to a UQR, boom, you go in, and you do the whole nine yards of transactions taking

1745
01:49:56,310 --> 01:49:56,690
care of it.

1746
01:49:56,750 --> 01:49:58,030
And you just sit back and collect a check.

1747
01:49:58,210 --> 01:50:00,310
That's what they sell.

1748
01:50:00,810 --> 01:50:03,390
They're just trying to find different ways to put it in the different mechanisms.

1749
01:50:04,510 --> 01:50:07,350
So it's their technology that you're pretty much buying into.

1750
01:50:08,230 --> 01:50:09,810
But to the point of it, it was real.

1751
01:50:09,810 --> 01:50:15,270
That's I think if I hear the board maybe we're not ready for that yet so maybe I'll pass on the sign on right now

1752
01:50:15,270 --> 01:50:19,610
There's no action to be taken. No actually. No, it was just an update right at the last meeting

1753
01:50:20,030 --> 01:50:24,950
We're asked to come back bring information. We did and then we go from there. Thank you

1754
01:50:24,950 --> 01:50:31,050
All right 9L discussion and consideration of submitting a charging smart letter of commitment

1755
01:50:32,970 --> 01:50:33,670
You again

1756
01:50:34,690 --> 01:50:35,510
Yes, sir

1757
01:50:35,510 --> 01:50:39,370
We have an opportunity to partner with our friends at HGAC.

1758
01:50:40,350 --> 01:50:47,470
There is the interstate renewable energy council about possibly having some EV charging stations

1759
01:50:47,470 --> 01:50:47,870
throughout.

1760
01:50:48,390 --> 01:50:52,010
They're looking for a group to be a designated community.

1761
01:50:52,910 --> 01:50:55,770
I've entered through this through our partnership through HGAC.

1762
01:50:56,670 --> 01:51:02,090
It's a gravitation, it doesn't cost us anything, but it aligns us with the possibility of having

1763
01:51:02,090 --> 01:51:03,410
some EV stations throughout the city.

1764
01:51:03,410 --> 01:51:04,130
So

1765
01:51:10,180 --> 01:51:19,380
the commitment is to leveraging charging smart to achieve the following goals, so we don't have to do the financial commitment.

1766
01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:23,300
No, to do this right now, to this commitment, no.

1767
01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:27,000
Who takes care of the maintenance on these?

1768
01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:32,600
Well, we're not doing it yet. We're just finding out the feasibility of what it would look like for us to move forward in this direction.

1769
01:51:33,060 --> 01:51:39,760
We would be interested in our information in partnering with HGAC to have them help us with the study at no cost

1770
01:51:42,780 --> 01:51:43,980
You make it a motion

1771
01:51:48,640 --> 01:51:56,960
You got a second on that. I'll second. Yeah, that's the second much on Williamson. All of the papers say aye

1772
01:51:58,400 --> 01:51:59,200
Anybody opposed?

1773
01:52:01,460 --> 01:52:03,000
We won't have any executive session

1774
01:52:04,420 --> 01:52:06,820
Man that's really a great meeting, I love the input by the jumping guys.

1775
01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:08,920
Glad to be here.

1776
01:52:09,540 --> 01:52:11,320
Anybody have any more items I want to add?

1777
01:52:12,180 --> 01:52:12,480
Discussion?

1778
01:52:13,580 --> 01:52:15,600
All right we will adjourn the meeting at 752.