1 00:03:11,060 --> 00:03:41,040 Council is now in session with the clerk, please take the roll. Council member Okane. Here. Council member Marshall. Present. Council member Culver. Present. Council member Admin. Council member Lutzis. Here. Deputy Mayor Sassin. I'm here. Mayor Herbick. Here, unless there are any objections, Council member Admin will be excused. Here are no objections. Council member Admin is excused. That brings us to our land acknowledgement. We acknowledge that the city of Kenmore is situated upon the ancestral lands of the 2 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,480 with Snohomish, Nakwami, Saksewado, Duwamish, Siluguamish, 3 00:03:44,620 --> 00:03:47,480 Tulalip, Sakwamish, Muckleshoot, and other tribes 4 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,120 who are part of the Coast Salish peoples. 5 00:03:49,700 --> 00:03:51,780 We recognize and express our deepest respect 6 00:03:51,780 --> 00:03:54,100 for their enduring stewardship and profound relationship 7 00:03:54,100 --> 00:03:56,740 with this land, which they have cherished and protected 8 00:03:56,740 --> 00:03:57,780 since time immemorial. 9 00:03:58,380 --> 00:04:01,040 We honor the first peoples, acknowledge our vibrant cultures 10 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,020 and commit ourselves to learning from their wisdom 11 00:04:03,020 --> 00:04:05,440 and our journey to promote justice, equity, 12 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:06,640 and mutual understanding. 13 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,320 We pledge to stand alongside these communities 14 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,140 and acknowledging past injustices and working towards the future of the respects and celebrate 15 00:04:13,140 --> 00:04:19,000 the diverse heritage of this land. Now, if you'd all please stand and join me in the 16 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:19,380 flight salute. 17 00:04:40,490 --> 00:04:43,730 Next on our agenda is approval of the agenda. Unless there are any objections, 18 00:04:44,030 --> 00:04:51,190 the agenda will stand approved as published. Objections, the agenda is approved. That brings us 19 00:04:51,870 --> 00:04:58,770 to our proclamation tonight for Disability Pride Month, July 2026. 20 00:04:58,770 --> 00:04:59,650 Whereas, 21 00:05:03,190 --> 00:05:06,890 people with disabilities have a proud history of fighting for inclusion and justice. 22 00:05:07,870 --> 00:05:11,470 And whereas, people with disabilities have experienced generations, marginalization, 23 00:05:11,970 --> 00:05:16,970 and deserve equitable treatment in the workplace, education system, and every part of our community. 24 00:05:17,830 --> 00:05:22,770 And whereas, every July is disability Pride Month, which is dedicated to honoring the history, 25 00:05:23,070 --> 00:05:26,550 achievements, experiences, and struggles of the disability community. 26 00:05:27,110 --> 00:05:31,450 And whereas, disability Pride Month marks the anniversary of the Americans with 27 00:05:31,450 --> 00:05:38,310 Disability Act, landmark legislation signed July 26, 1990, prohibiting discrimination against 28 00:05:38,310 --> 00:05:43,190 people with disabilities in public life. And whereas advocates and organizations such as 29 00:05:43,190 --> 00:05:48,510 Kendrick continue to promote greater awareness, acceptance, and inclusion of all members of the community, 30 00:05:49,330 --> 00:05:53,790 Kendrick's mission is to embrace children of diverse abilities by providing the finest education 31 00:05:53,790 --> 00:06:00,250 and therapies, and nurture hope, courage, and the skills to soar. And whereas Kendrick serves over 32 00:06:00,250 --> 00:06:04,830 100 children each year from the city of Kenmore, and whereas people with disabilities contribute 33 00:06:04,830 --> 00:06:10,490 enormously to the economy, culture, and community of the city of Kenmore. And whereas the city of 34 00:06:10,490 --> 00:06:16,190 Kenmore supports and respects people with disabilities and aims to be an inclusive place where all people 35 00:06:16,190 --> 00:06:21,790 of all abilities can thrive. Now, therefore, I, Nigel Herbig, mayor of the city of Kenmore, 36 00:06:21,950 --> 00:06:26,510 on behalf of the City Council, do you hear by Proclaim July 2026 to be disability pride month throughout 37 00:06:26,510 --> 00:06:31,990 the city of Kenmore. And to accept that today, we have Christina 38 00:06:32,790 --> 00:06:36,530 Mendiada, and I totally asked her out of the house and I just mangled it again. 39 00:06:36,970 --> 00:06:38,510 Chief Advancement Officer for Kindering. 40 00:06:39,070 --> 00:06:39,290 Christina. 41 00:06:39,750 --> 00:06:40,190 Thank you. 42 00:06:40,770 --> 00:06:44,390 Thank you so much. Mayor Herveg, Council Members, and staff. 43 00:06:45,610 --> 00:06:50,710 Good evening. My name is Christina Mendiada. I am the Chief Advancement Officer of Kindering, 44 00:06:50,710 --> 00:06:56,570 and I am here on behalf of the kindering community of staff and families to thank you very sincerely 45 00:06:56,570 --> 00:07:01,950 for doing this proclamation. I won't repeat what was already said in the proclamation 46 00:07:01,950 --> 00:07:07,410 about what kindering does, but I did just want to tell you why it matters because I think sometimes 47 00:07:07,410 --> 00:07:14,090 these types of things can feel very symbolic and I wanted to tell you why it matters to our families 48 00:07:14,090 --> 00:07:27,110 and to our staff. So first of all not every city does disability pride proclamations and I can tell you that even in the world of disability advocacy that I've been working in for the past several years. 49 00:07:27,770 --> 00:07:42,790 A lot of people don't even know what disability pride is and it is I think a wonderful thing that the city is doing to help raise awareness about disability culture, history, identity. 50 00:07:42,790 --> 00:07:47,930 and letting people know that this is a pride celebration 51 00:07:47,930 --> 00:07:50,690 in addition to LGBTQIA plus pride. 52 00:07:51,650 --> 00:07:54,870 And I thought the better thing 53 00:07:54,870 --> 00:07:56,830 than for me to offer my thoughts 54 00:07:56,830 --> 00:07:58,750 was to just give you two little quotes 55 00:07:58,750 --> 00:08:02,750 from parents of kindering kids. 56 00:08:03,030 --> 00:08:05,550 So one set of parents, we ask them 57 00:08:05,550 --> 00:08:07,170 why is disability pride important to you? 58 00:08:07,770 --> 00:08:09,890 They have now four-year-old 59 00:08:09,890 --> 00:08:12,330 who has graduated kindering's early support services. 60 00:08:12,330 --> 00:08:19,570 she did occupational therapy, feeding therapy, physical therapy, they said we are the proud 61 00:08:19,570 --> 00:08:23,850 parents of a brave little girl with cerebral palsy. Disability Pride Month is important to our 62 00:08:23,850 --> 00:08:27,490 family because we want our daughter to feel proud of herself and live in a community that is 63 00:08:27,490 --> 00:08:32,110 proud of her as well. We celebrate the amazing things she does and cheer on people in the disability 64 00:08:32,110 --> 00:08:36,150 community every day so it's amazing to be part of a month for the community celebrates with us. 65 00:08:37,090 --> 00:08:41,910 And I want to share another quote from a kindering parent who has a disability herself. She's 66 00:08:41,910 --> 00:08:48,970 fully blind. Her daughter has complex medical needs and was at kindering as a child. 67 00:08:49,310 --> 00:08:53,310 And actually she's in her 20s now and she came back to kindering to volunteer with us. 68 00:08:54,130 --> 00:08:59,910 So this mother, named Sunny, said people with disabilities are contributing enormously 69 00:08:59,910 --> 00:09:04,410 to this community. And the more you include them, the more they can contribute. My daughter, 70 00:09:04,690 --> 00:09:09,690 Kira and I are living proof of that. So that is what you are. That's the message that 71 00:09:09,690 --> 00:09:10,850 you're giving to our families. 72 00:09:11,090 --> 00:09:12,970 And so, again, thank you so much. 73 00:09:13,450 --> 00:09:14,130 Thank you. 74 00:09:14,870 --> 00:09:16,370 Would you join us over by the flag, 75 00:09:16,530 --> 00:09:18,690 so I can present this to you and take a quick picture? 76 00:10:02,180 --> 00:10:02,660 All 77 00:10:08,710 --> 00:10:11,410 right, city manager, where is the fun? 78 00:10:12,950 --> 00:10:13,970 Thank you, Mayor. 79 00:10:14,330 --> 00:10:16,750 We have two items for you this evening. 80 00:10:17,510 --> 00:10:20,090 The city hosted its annual dune team celebration 81 00:10:20,090 --> 00:10:22,850 last Wednesday, June 17th, from three to seven PM 82 00:10:22,850 --> 00:10:24,430 at the Hanger and Kenmore Town Square. 83 00:10:24,430 --> 00:10:30,070 We know it was not officially Juneteenth Day, but we wanted to celebrate as part of our 84 00:10:30,070 --> 00:10:36,430 farmer's market and Iran in conjunction as a free family-friendly event. 85 00:10:37,050 --> 00:10:41,910 The highlights included the Black National Anthem performed by Darnisha Bowman of Black 86 00:10:41,910 --> 00:10:47,910 Coffee Northwest, what an amazing voice she has and she was accompanied by a great drummer. 87 00:10:47,910 --> 00:10:53,210 Deputies Mayor Sassan gave a welcome from the city, and there were opening remarks from 88 00:10:53,210 --> 00:11:03,190 Zatis, Sapa, Nata, Cha, Oya, and I am so sorry if I mispronounced any of that, who is the 89 00:11:03,190 --> 00:11:09,770 Washington ACLU Health Policy Program Director and their remarks were just truly inspiring. 90 00:11:10,310 --> 00:11:13,930 So I encourage everyone to come out next year. There were interactive booths, activities 91 00:11:13,930 --> 00:11:19,950 communities and community crafts, representation from a large range of groups including King County 92 00:11:19,950 --> 00:11:27,430 Library, Kenmore Heritage Society, Washington, ACLU, Artsakenmore, Langston Hughes Performing 93 00:11:27,430 --> 00:11:33,170 Arts Institute, Creativity Loft, as well as our own Let's Talk Kenmore Podcast, which 94 00:11:33,790 --> 00:11:38,610 got some great interviews from people in attendance, as well as our Environmental Services and 95 00:11:38,610 --> 00:11:39,410 City booth. 96 00:11:41,190 --> 00:11:44,470 Next, we have some bittersweet, where's the fun for you? 97 00:11:44,750 --> 00:11:49,510 While it will be very fun for Christine, it's sad for us, and that our beloved 98 00:11:49,510 --> 00:11:55,610 front desk receptionist, Christine Kobatit, is retiring this Thursday, June 25th. 99 00:11:55,690 --> 00:11:59,110 You've made notice that the front desk has been decorated for her with a happy 100 00:11:59,110 --> 00:12:03,750 retirement banner, and we sincerely mean it. We wish you're nothing but the best 101 00:12:03,750 --> 00:12:08,930 in this next chapter of her life. And if you get a chance to stop by during 102 00:12:08,930 --> 00:12:13,530 business hours this week, please do so and wish her well and think her for all that she's 103 00:12:13,530 --> 00:12:22,210 done for the city. That's my report. Thank you so much. Next on the agenda is public comments. 104 00:12:22,710 --> 00:12:26,910 Before I read the spiel, I'll just confirm that we don't have anybody signed in for a virtual 105 00:12:26,910 --> 00:12:33,210 and we don't have anyone to be signed in for in person. Correct. Okay, well then, on to the next. 106 00:12:33,210 --> 00:12:38,710 Next. Next on the agenda then is the consent agenda that you're going to entertain a motion 107 00:12:38,710 --> 00:12:44,070 to approve the consent agenda. They'll move. Second, I have a motion and a second. Is there 108 00:12:44,070 --> 00:12:52,510 any discussion? No, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? The consent agenda 109 00:12:52,510 --> 00:12:58,750 is approved unanimously which brings us to the business agenda. Updated park impact 110 00:12:58,750 --> 00:13:04,090 for the methodology presented by Debbie Bent Community Development Director and Todd Hall Principal Planner. 111 00:13:48,420 --> 00:13:55,740 Good evening, Council. We are here this evening to continue the discussion of the park impact fee 112 00:13:55,740 --> 00:14:05,020 study. We've been before you in two prior meetings and we have updated the methodology hopefully to 113 00:14:05,020 --> 00:14:12,200 provide clarity. We've given a description in the agenda bill to recap what some of the 114 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:19,780 questions were, but ultimately we need to get to a public hearing to then adopt the impact 115 00:14:19,780 --> 00:14:27,320 fee study and update to the Kenmore Municipal Code. So there are some questions in terms 116 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:32,820 of the approach that we're asking council to take a look at. And at the last meeting there 117 00:14:32,820 --> 00:14:36,700 was no clear direction or consensus on which approach to take. 118 00:14:37,180 --> 00:14:39,980 So we are back with hopefully some information 119 00:14:39,980 --> 00:14:44,060 that's been clarified and then to answer those same questions. 120 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,760 In terms of the staff recommendation 121 00:14:47,450 --> 00:14:50,720 on the fee calculation, we are recommending 122 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,340 that you take the square footage approach just 123 00:14:53,340 --> 00:14:56,780 because it's easy to administer and understand. 124 00:14:58,350 --> 00:14:59,860 We're also looking for direction 125 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,020 On setting the percentage of the maximum rate to be implemented, which would start in January 126 00:15:05,020 --> 00:15:13,300 2027. And again, if you have any questions on the municipal code amendments, on the rate 127 00:15:13,300 --> 00:15:19,040 we are looking at recommending setting that rate at 70% of the maximum, because that is 128 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:28,760 comparable to the rate that was set in 2025 and 2026. And just as a reminder, parking 129 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:36,380 impact fees are for new residential development to pay their proportionate share of growth, 130 00:15:37,020 --> 00:15:43,780 not the entire share of cost for infrastructure or park infrastructure that's needed. 131 00:15:44,060 --> 00:15:48,220 It's a share, so there are other funding sources that need to supplement that as well as 132 00:15:48,220 --> 00:15:55,460 park impact fees, whether that's REIT or King County Levy or those other forms. 133 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:02,080 So, on that, we don't have a presentation this evening, but we can pull up information 134 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,800 from the packet if there are any questions. 135 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,600 So again, opening it up for Council discussion and questions. 136 00:16:12,140 --> 00:16:12,660 Questions? 137 00:16:15,550 --> 00:16:19,350 I was just reviewing my notes from our previous meeting, where unfortunately we also did not 138 00:16:19,350 --> 00:16:24,630 have Council Member Admin until the very end, and it appears as if a majority of the Council 139 00:16:24,630 --> 00:16:33,250 was also on the square foot in the 70% to 75% range just from my—he's in no paper. I left him 140 00:16:33,250 --> 00:16:38,410 at the desk. Do we have any questions? Do we want to count 141 00:16:41,130 --> 00:16:43,850 some recover? Yeah, I've got one, 142 00:16:44,170 --> 00:16:49,270 and you spoke to it a bit, but one thing I discovered looking into this—there's a section in the 143 00:16:49,270 --> 00:16:57,190 RCW about legislative intent that spells out that the intent of the legislature is that new 144 00:16:57,190 --> 00:17:02,250 growth should pay for new growth, for its proportionate share, I think might be the exact 145 00:17:02,250 --> 00:17:09,110 language. What does that mean and what does that look like? Does that abtour a higher amount 146 00:17:09,110 --> 00:17:13,530 or a lower amount? Have they elaborated on that, Annie? 147 00:17:24,410 --> 00:17:31,670 Are you asking me, is there an interpretation from the legislation, or I'm just trying to 148 00:17:31,670 --> 00:17:34,070 make sure that I address your question appropriately? 149 00:17:34,070 --> 00:17:44,750 Yeah, I would refer a consultant, potentially, like if seeing this in practice, like since they've laid out that legislative intent, that new development should pay for new development. 150 00:17:46,670 --> 00:17:50,190 In your mind, does that have toward a higher rate or a lower rate? 151 00:17:55,100 --> 00:17:56,800 Tom, if you wouldn't mind answering. 152 00:17:56,940 --> 00:18:02,900 It can be any rate you decide it to be, as long as it's going to be used for new capacity, new growth. 153 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:14,420 The legislation doesn't mandate what percent of that that has to be, but it also does say that it can't be the only source of funds that you use to develop new facilities. 154 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:23,820 Right, and you, somewhere in the packet I think it says that you had preferred a higher rate, I think closer than 90 percent. 155 00:18:24,140 --> 00:18:25,560 Could you talk about that a little bit? 156 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:32,380 Well, in the methodology I put in the spreadsheets for the six and twenty year forecast for all 157 00:18:32,380 --> 00:18:38,840 the requirements to fund everything, not just new development facilities, and it really 158 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:44,700 comes down to the besides what you've been doing, except for the fact that your property 159 00:18:44,700 --> 00:18:49,220 attack is going to continue to decline, there are really three places you can go for money 160 00:18:49,220 --> 00:18:52,440 and that's either impact fees or read or levy. 161 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,340 So read is difficult because you're then taking 162 00:18:56,340 --> 00:18:59,320 from other capital facility requirements that you need. 163 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:02,860 And levy's can be dicey dependent on how you formulate them 164 00:19:02,860 --> 00:19:03,840 and what you're trying to do. 165 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,300 So essentially I tend to prefer having a higher rate, 166 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:12,840 70 to 75% is fine because if you lower it much more, 167 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,560 then you're overly dependent on those other two sources 168 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,720 to finance your development. 169 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,720 and that doesn't seem to be used much flexibility. 170 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:23,520 Okay. 171 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:24,120 That's all I got. 172 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:24,980 Thank you. 173 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:27,560 Councilor Marshall. 174 00:19:30,290 --> 00:19:35,110 As I recall, the alternative to square footage was it per unit or just correct down that 175 00:19:35,110 --> 00:19:35,370 please? 176 00:19:36,510 --> 00:19:38,830 The square footage for the structure itself, for the unit. 177 00:19:39,850 --> 00:19:41,770 And the other alternative was bedrooms. 178 00:19:43,190 --> 00:19:43,670 Bedrooms. 179 00:19:43,870 --> 00:19:44,290 That's right. 180 00:19:44,490 --> 00:19:44,810 Thank you. 181 00:19:45,630 --> 00:19:50,190 We don't prefer bedrooms, and we kind of laid out the pros and cons. 182 00:19:50,870 --> 00:19:55,970 The difficulty with bedrooms is one, if you look at some of the persons per bedroom. 183 00:19:56,270 --> 00:20:01,110 This is, according to the American Community Survey, you get down to the studio, supposedly 184 00:20:01,470 --> 00:20:02,730 0.85 people. 185 00:20:03,490 --> 00:20:05,970 I mean, that's into the lot for one thing. 186 00:20:06,050 --> 00:20:10,190 The other issue is, if at the time that you're going to impose the impact, they're going 187 00:20:10,190 --> 00:20:14,850 to give you floor plans, and there's invariably going to be arguments that we don't have that 188 00:20:14,850 --> 00:20:15,490 many bedrooms. 189 00:20:15,490 --> 00:20:20,170 You have a guest room, where you have a family room, where you have an office, and that's 190 00:20:20,170 --> 00:20:24,270 So this seems to be creating more confusion than necessary. 191 00:20:28,830 --> 00:20:29,230 Deputy Mayor. 192 00:20:30,690 --> 00:20:31,830 Thanks for coming back. 193 00:20:32,190 --> 00:20:33,030 I appreciate it. 194 00:20:33,530 --> 00:20:41,570 I just want to save my recollection is that the square footage approach and the 70% 195 00:20:42,590 --> 00:20:48,930 recommendation seems in line with my preferences during our last chat. 196 00:20:49,690 --> 00:20:52,170 And so I would be happy to move ahead with that. 197 00:20:52,170 --> 00:20:58,090 I could also support up to 75% if there were consensus around that. 198 00:20:59,550 --> 00:20:59,970 The 199 00:21:02,910 --> 00:21:03,750 comments, questions? 200 00:21:07,610 --> 00:21:09,410 All right. Well, they are asking 201 00:21:09,410 --> 00:21:12,410 production before with a public hearing, which I think does 202 00:21:13,310 --> 00:21:15,690 choirist tell us what tell them what type of public hearing on. 203 00:21:16,230 --> 00:21:20,450 So I'm just going to toss out a motion and folks can decide what they want to do with it. 204 00:21:21,470 --> 00:21:35,650 The chair of the entertainer motion to direct staff to put together a park impact fee using 205 00:21:35,650 --> 00:21:42,830 square footage and at the 70% threshold. 206 00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:50,250 And then directing staff to also schedule public hearing for an updated park impact fee methodology 207 00:21:50,250 --> 00:21:55,290 and amendments to Ken Ramirez will code at chapter 20.47. 208 00:21:56,890 --> 00:21:57,370 Second. 209 00:21:57,790 --> 00:21:59,790 I have a motion of second and certain discussion. 210 00:22:03,140 --> 00:22:03,860 Councilmember Culver. 211 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:05,900 I don't know that I'll get a second, 212 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,320 but I would move to amend to 80% and kindly ask for a second. 213 00:22:12,020 --> 00:22:12,260 Second. 214 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,960 I have a motion and a second. 215 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,060 Is there any discussion? 216 00:22:18,460 --> 00:22:19,060 Councilmember Culver. 217 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,280 Yeah, I would just say this. 218 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,640 This, we are subsidizing market rate housing. 219 00:22:25,300 --> 00:22:30,880 Anything that we collect less than the maximum it's, you know, is dollars we could put 220 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:36,300 toward other things, we could, we can't spend that money directly on affordable housing, 221 00:22:36,460 --> 00:22:41,460 but we could do things like instead of taking it out of our general fund, we can pull and 222 00:22:41,460 --> 00:22:44,120 leverage those money toward actual affordable housing. 223 00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:50,380 I don't think keeping that lower advances circles in a meaningful way. 224 00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:52,980 We have some equity carveouts. 225 00:22:52,980 --> 00:22:53,960 I'm excited about those. 226 00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:59,780 I'm glad we exempt affordable housing and have kind of a slope for middle and manufactured, 227 00:22:59,780 --> 00:23:04,500 but I think we can go further and I think the equity case is strong, so I would push for 228 00:23:04,500 --> 00:23:04,920 at least eight. 229 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:06,660 All right. 230 00:23:08,180 --> 00:23:10,080 Councilmember Lutzis, and then we'll go to Councilor Marshall. 231 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:11,020 Yeah. 232 00:23:11,020 --> 00:23:17,080 Yeah, I think when it comes to this as well, thinking about how the fact that impact fees 233 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:22,020 like this, I'm glad that we have the carveouts for affordable housing, but still a lot 234 00:23:22,020 --> 00:23:28,220 of fees like this are fairly passed through, a lot of the brunt is bear by those who purchase 235 00:23:28,220 --> 00:23:36,520 that, the unit, whatever is developed, even if they are smaller in size, and so just being 236 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:43,860 mindful of that. I think 70 is a fair amount to ask for. Again, we can't require 100% to be on 237 00:23:43,860 --> 00:23:48,420 this, and we have to look for other things and trying to balance that with the fact that we don't 238 00:23:48,420 --> 00:23:55,360 want these to pass through all the way and still make other forms of housing, even if they are 239 00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:59,360 market rate or slightly below market rate, that much less affordable. 240 00:24:02,500 --> 00:24:12,620 A little bit different, though, still supportive of the amendment to the motion by Council member Culver, I just see the 80% as a reasonable increase for parks. 241 00:24:15,250 --> 00:24:15,830 Council member, okay. 242 00:24:17,250 --> 00:24:24,050 I think the staff recommendation of 70% is appropriate. 243 00:24:24,050 --> 00:24:34,950 At this time, we are all going through increases and this does pass through to the purchaser or the renter or whoever lives in the home. 244 00:24:35,570 --> 00:24:48,510 So, at this time, I don't think it's appropriate to increase it to 80% I think 70% is absolutely appropriate being mindful of inflation and the expenses that we're going through right now, so I do not support the motion. 245 00:24:54,060 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaking for myself, I generally more comfortable with 70, maybe 75% customer culvert. 246 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:05,880 Yeah, I mean, let's talk about the other side of the past through, if we are not charging 247 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,700 that to new development, as I understand the legislative intent calls us to, that's being 248 00:25:10,700 --> 00:25:18,660 put on residents that increases more pressures of us to raise taxes, go out for an MPD, whatever 249 00:25:18,660 --> 00:25:19,400 the case may be. 250 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:25,800 I think the legislative intent here is very clear, and I think there's a way toward more equitable winds for truly affordable housing. 251 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,420 Market rate is not affordable housing. 252 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:35,460 You can't waive impact fees to the lower AMI bands, which is what we need to actually be building. 253 00:25:36,340 --> 00:25:45,540 There's better ways to use our incentives and given the scarce public dollars, given the situation we're in visibly, 254 00:25:45,540 --> 00:25:55,060 I don't think it's the healthy thing to do, and I don't think it's a good equitable housing outcome either, so I will be supporting 80%. 255 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:56,940 Any further comments? 256 00:25:59,470 --> 00:25:59,990 Councillor, okay. 257 00:26:05,020 --> 00:26:11,000 Affordability isn't only for, affordability impacts all forms of housing. 258 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:31,740 So I just want to recognize that even people who do not require affordable housing are impacted by the affordability of our city, and we are actually already going out for a levee-lit lift, we've done a tax increase for public safety. 259 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:38,140 We're being impacted with taxes right now and I think it's appropriate to stick with 260 00:26:38,140 --> 00:26:40,180 the 70 at this time. 261 00:26:42,380 --> 00:26:43,520 Any further discussion? 262 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,000 Seeing none with the clerk, please take the role on the amendment. 263 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,100 Council member Culver. 264 00:26:50,820 --> 00:26:51,020 Yes. 265 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:52,580 Council member Marshall. 266 00:26:53,140 --> 00:26:53,280 Yes. 267 00:26:54,180 --> 00:26:54,960 Council member O'Kane. 268 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:55,640 No. 269 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,660 Council member Lutzis. 270 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:58,140 No. 271 00:26:59,060 --> 00:27:00,200 Deputy Mayor Sassen. 272 00:27:00,700 --> 00:27:01,260 Yes. 273 00:27:01,260 --> 00:27:10,540 and Mayor Herbick. No. The motion fails three to three. That brings us back to our original motion. 274 00:27:11,380 --> 00:27:17,420 70 percent. Any further discussion? Councilmember Marshall and then Deputy Mayor. 275 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:23,700 This very briefly I appreciate the staff recommendation and the renewed information. I still feel more 276 00:27:23,700 --> 00:27:26,300 We're comfortable with the bedroom-based approach. 277 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:29,620 Deputy Mayor. 278 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,260 We make a proposal for $75. 279 00:27:34,180 --> 00:27:34,620 It's completely different. 280 00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:36,340 Certainly make an amendment for $75. 281 00:27:36,460 --> 00:27:38,060 I'm going to make an amendment for $75. 282 00:27:38,460 --> 00:27:38,640 All right. 283 00:27:38,780 --> 00:27:39,420 If I may have a second. 284 00:27:39,940 --> 00:27:40,720 I'll second that. 285 00:27:41,020 --> 00:27:42,080 We have a motion and a second. 286 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,000 For $75. 287 00:27:44,540 --> 00:27:45,760 Is there any discussion? 288 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:48,620 Council Member Culver. 289 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,620 I appreciate the Nudge Hire. 290 00:27:51,340 --> 00:27:54,500 We'll see what the bidding lens is at when it comes to my ram and it's back, but I 291 00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:55,200 will be supporting this. 292 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,620 Thank you. 293 00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:58,140 Any further discussion? 294 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,100 Okay. 295 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,980 Staying done with the clerk, take the role in the amendment. 296 00:28:03,740 --> 00:28:04,620 Council Member Lutzis. 297 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:05,040 Yes. 298 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:06,680 Council Member Colver. 299 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:07,220 Yes. 300 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:08,640 Council Member Marshall. 301 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:09,160 Yes. 302 00:28:10,020 --> 00:28:10,840 Council Member O'Keehn. 303 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:11,400 No. 304 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,680 Council, or Deputy Mayor Sassen. 305 00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:15,260 Yes. 306 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:16,760 Mayor Herbick. 307 00:28:17,540 --> 00:28:17,780 No. 308 00:28:17,980 --> 00:28:20,700 The motion, the amendment passes 4 to 2. 309 00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:25,660 That brings us back to the main motion, which is now at 75%. 310 00:28:25,660 --> 00:28:27,820 Is there any further discussion on the main motion? 311 00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:30,740 That's our witnesses. 312 00:28:31,180 --> 00:28:36,180 75 is my max, so I'm not going to advocate for anything more than that. 313 00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:36,640 Thank you. 314 00:28:37,460 --> 00:28:39,160 Any further discussion on the main motion? 315 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,140 The thing now with the clerk, please take the wall. 316 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:44,860 Council Member Marshall. 317 00:28:46,260 --> 00:28:46,820 Yes. 318 00:28:47,380 --> 00:28:48,600 Council Member O'Kane. 319 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:49,280 No. 320 00:28:50,300 --> 00:28:51,600 Council Member Lutzis. 321 00:28:51,940 --> 00:28:52,060 Yes. 322 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,240 Council Member Coveyer. 323 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:54,740 Yes. 324 00:28:55,780 --> 00:28:56,740 Deputy Mayor Schnesson. 325 00:28:56,740 --> 00:29:06,800 Yes. Mayor Herbick. Yes, the motion passes five to one and is approved. Thank you very 326 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:07,200 much. 327 00:29:09,330 --> 00:29:15,030 That brings us to staff reports, city manager. 328 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,600 Thank you. Just one item to share 329 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:29,680 this evening. So coming up this Thursday, the bottle can more chamber is hosting a breakfast 330 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:36,540 at 7.30 a.m., so if you're an early bird, you can come and hear about the state of the 331 00:29:36,540 --> 00:29:39,600 city of Kenmore with the mayor's our primary speaker. 332 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,240 So it does require pre-reservation, but there are spots still available if you would like 333 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:44,820 to attend. 334 00:29:45,660 --> 00:29:47,180 That's my report for today. 335 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:54,260 Okay, Council Member Reports and Comments, Council Member, okay. 336 00:29:56,670 --> 00:29:57,570 Nothing today. 337 00:29:57,570 --> 00:29:57,630 Okay. 338 00:29:58,150 --> 00:29:59,130 That's commercial. 339 00:30:00,980 --> 00:30:25,360 Thanks to the staff for the great work on 61st. I am feeling like I want to drive slower in the narrower appearing lanes. It may be, well, we'll have, we'll have data of some kind. It's some point to see whether that works out. Boy, it sure feels like you want to slow it. It's very nice. It's, I think it's great. Thank you. 340 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,300 There's a couple initiatives on the ballot this November. 341 00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:38,820 I am forgetting the numbers off hand, but no hate in Washington state, I think there's 342 00:30:38,820 --> 00:30:39,660 a pair of them coming. 343 00:30:41,380 --> 00:30:41,660 It's early. 344 00:30:41,660 --> 00:30:42,000 The mayor. 345 00:30:43,540 --> 00:30:45,640 I'm so sorry to interject. 346 00:30:45,860 --> 00:30:52,520 I just want to make sure that we aren't discussing in positive terms a pending ballot measure. 347 00:30:52,520 --> 00:31:00,120 It can be factual, such as it's on the vote that I'm just cautioning council members about pending ballot measures. 348 00:31:00,540 --> 00:31:05,940 I appreciate that. I was using that only as a moniker, not as a stump speech, but that point is well taken. 349 00:31:06,780 --> 00:31:10,260 There are a couple initiatives. I do not have the numbers on hand. 350 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:17,920 But if I could fetch them for the clerk, and if my colleagues know what I'm talking about, I would love to take a position on that at some point. 351 00:31:18,660 --> 00:31:25,580 So I would move that we bring that back for discussion at a future date and would ask for a second poor continued discussion. 352 00:31:26,260 --> 00:31:34,240 I'll second that. I think the right the time to bring the back when they're right was actually once they've actually filed and qualified for the ballot. 353 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:41,180 But yes, I support us taking a position on them when they're when the issue's right for sure. 354 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:51,680 Do we have any, I just want to check the consensus, do we have any objections to bringing that back for discussion in the future? 355 00:31:51,980 --> 00:31:55,280 It doesn't look like we have any objections, so we will keep track of that. 356 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:56,920 Cool. 357 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:57,440 Yeah. 358 00:31:57,820 --> 00:31:58,300 Appreciate that. 359 00:31:58,300 --> 00:32:06,000 Only everything, I saw last couple of days, former outgoing deputy city manager, Stephanie 360 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:12,400 Luke-Ash, apparently is now like a regional vice president of the International City 361 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,100 and County Management Association. 362 00:32:15,620 --> 00:32:16,360 Pretty good. 363 00:32:16,540 --> 00:32:16,960 Congratulations. 364 00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:21,040 Good to see Ken Moore's staff one day continue to shine. 365 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:22,660 So congratulations to her. 366 00:32:23,140 --> 00:32:23,840 That is all I got. 367 00:32:24,020 --> 00:32:24,360 Happy Monday. 368 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,940 Council Member Lizzis. 369 00:32:27,380 --> 00:32:30,840 Yes, last Wednesday the North Shore Parks and Recreation Service Area met. 370 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:38,360 We are kindly hosted by the City of Woodenville and we took a walking tour of the site of a potential 371 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:48,120 future community center slash aquatic center slash athletic center to be hosted to serve the residents 372 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,660 and surrounding community of the service area and it's pretty exciting. 373 00:32:52,660 --> 00:33:16,460 They've got some property lined up, the city of Woodenville, and there's some collaboration going on between the NSA and the city about next steps, and so I just want to put that on folks radar that it's coming along and things are looking good, and I'm super stoked that we might have down the line, of course, I don't want to jinx things, but potentially a public pool for the north end in the in the future. 374 00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:19,040 Deputy Mayor. 375 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:30,690 Thank you. A couple of things. I really enjoyed the Juneteenth celebration, and I want 376 00:33:30,690 --> 00:33:39,150 to thank our staff, but especially both Alison and Nicole, put a lot of effort into making 377 00:33:39,150 --> 00:33:52,150 a terrific event, and I felt like they really supported my success in hosting some really 378 00:33:52,150 --> 00:33:58,810 remarkable guests. In addition to our Darnitia Bowman from Black Coffee Northwest, 379 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:07,410 who I've been following for years, she is a phenomenal leader, and her words were 380 00:34:07,410 --> 00:34:25,230 not just the singing but her words. She left us with Justice Requires Action, and then the booths that people came with really allowed people to look around and say, well, where will I engage? 381 00:34:25,230 --> 00:34:29,130 And I thought that was powerful and terrific. 382 00:34:29,410 --> 00:34:30,750 I enjoyed that very much. 383 00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:38,730 And then Sati Sapata Nauchwaya of the Health Policy Director of the ACLU has been in 384 00:34:38,730 --> 00:34:43,210 Washington from Texas for only a year, so she is still finding her feet. 385 00:34:43,830 --> 00:34:47,370 And I just found her to be inspiring and delightful. 386 00:34:47,370 --> 00:34:54,390 But we also had Mayor Woodard of Monteleg-Tarris and North Shore schools who were intended just 387 00:34:54,390 --> 00:34:57,970 an Irish join us and I thought those things were, it was all terrific. 388 00:34:58,390 --> 00:35:01,770 And then we could follow up with popsicles and strawberries at the farmers market. 389 00:35:02,210 --> 00:35:04,670 So I'm looking forward to this weekend. 390 00:35:05,250 --> 00:35:10,150 And then I also just want to acknowledge that we have a household in Kenmore who lost their 391 00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:11,670 home to a house fire this week. 392 00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:20,730 And if there's anything that if anyone hears anything about them reaching out for support, I would I would like to know about that. 393 00:35:22,930 --> 00:35:32,890 Thank you. And I want to thank the deputy mayor for stepping in when I was out celebrating my anniversary in downtown. So thank you for stepping up and I appreciate it. 394 00:35:32,890 --> 00:35:36,930 I just want to share a little thing. 395 00:35:37,730 --> 00:35:40,250 I've been, as I mentioned in previous meetings, 396 00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:43,090 I was appointed to by Executive Zahalai 397 00:35:43,090 --> 00:35:47,830 to the Transit Safety Implementation Task Force. 398 00:35:47,830 --> 00:35:49,030 I think that's the full name. 399 00:35:49,770 --> 00:35:51,530 And we add a meeting to say with everybody, 400 00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:53,550 like 50 people probably in one room, 401 00:35:53,650 --> 00:35:58,890 having really meaningful conversations about how to implement 402 00:35:58,890 --> 00:36:07,090 implement things that will make transit safer for everybody, drivers, riders, all that. And I just 403 00:36:07,090 --> 00:36:14,690 really commend King County Metro and a lot of the other folks that give up their time to work 404 00:36:14,690 --> 00:36:20,410 through all of this. I'm excited because for our region to succeed, our transit needs to succeed. 405 00:36:21,050 --> 00:36:26,070 And for transit to succeed, people need to trust it and know that they're going to be safe on it. 406 00:36:26,070 --> 00:36:31,730 So I really appreciate all that work and I hope I think we're going to see some good 407 00:36:31,730 --> 00:36:35,250 movement out of that committee in the relative linear future, which is exciting. 408 00:36:37,790 --> 00:36:40,790 Anyway, next on the agenda is our executive session. 409 00:36:41,210 --> 00:36:46,770 It's a confidential session of the council pursuant to RCW 42, 3111I. 410 00:36:47,650 --> 00:36:50,990 The City Council will turn into an executive session to discuss potential litigation. 411 00:36:51,410 --> 00:36:55,010 This executive session is slated to last for 30 minutes. 412 00:36:55,010 --> 00:37:03,010 there is potential action. So it is 734, we will be back at 804. 413 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:44,260 The council is going to extend the exact concession for an additional 10 minutes. 414 01:18:24,590 --> 01:18:39,210 The chair would entertain a motion to authorize the city manager or does need to draft and submit a comment letter regarding proposed federal regulation to CFR 200 on behalf of the city for signature by the mayor. 415 01:18:40,770 --> 01:18:44,050 I have a motion in a second. Any discussion? 416 01:18:46,590 --> 01:18:48,630 Seeing none with the clerk, please take the roll. 417 01:18:49,510 --> 01:18:54,790 Council Member O'Kane. Yes. Council Member Marshall. Yes. Council Member Culver. Yes. 418 01:18:55,630 --> 01:18:59,170 Council Member Lutzis. Yes. David Mayer-Sasson. Yes. 419 01:18:59,790 --> 01:19:05,950 I may have her big. Yes, the motion passes unanimously. With nothing more to come for us, we are adjourned.