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Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to our work session for Monday and November of Tuesday. November of the 12th.

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First item up is the resolution for the master fee schedule.

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Yes, so the master fee schedule has been updated to reflect the following pages and I'm just going to hit the high points for you.

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The Southern Museum amended its military fees to reflect active duty, reserve, hard, and military

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retirees' sasses.

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They removed the depot as a rentable space because the south home to our amphitheater

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and updated the name of its gallery from Cobb Energy Gallery to Cobb EMC Gallery.

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The events committee removed its race fee as the city does not allow for private races

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within the city's limits.

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The Finance Department makes some administrative changes to add clarification and remove redundancy from some of its fees.

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Added a bail bonds, application fee, and included fees for manual and e-file methods of filing or releasing lanes on properties for the liquid taxes.

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The Cemetery Commission is increasing the employee cost to purchase a lot to behalf of the current cost of a resident law, which is what we've traditionally done.

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is increasing the cremation garden scattering costs along with the memorial only option to

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help cover the cost of the cremation garden wall plaque and is removing all fees associated

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with memorial trees and adding a fee for memorial tree placer placement in the future if needed.

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The City Manager's office is adding filling permit fees for the use of city owned parking spaces

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and any barricade or cum replacement that might be needed.

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Smith Gilbert Gardens is also amending its military fee to reflect active duty reserve guard and military retirees.

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Added the acceptance of sunbooks and changed the cost of it guided tours for adult groups.

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Parks and Recreation clarified that non-resident fees refer to residence outside of Cognitive Limits,

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her the most recent hospital 409 agreement as well as her move to the community house carry

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house from their inventory of rentable spaces as it's home to our amphitheater and a

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grading herment and land service permit fees are now filed under public courts and our fee

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schedules and planning and zoning updated, flat, rezoning application, zoning verification letter

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and sign permit fees.

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That's the short. Okay. Good. Any questions or

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comments?

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One more.

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I'll put you some chair fees.

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Decephan now, is that for elected officials as well, or is that just for

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employees of the city?

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That would be, I want to know, officials as well.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Any other questions?

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I'd like to move.

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It can consent.

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consent.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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And then the first public hearing is an ordinance, a unified development code, text amendment.

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Good evening, Mayor Council.

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I do.

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Make sure it's red.

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It's on.

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There you go.

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Thank you.

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You're welcome.

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As Mayor Council remembers, we came to work session to kind of give you the background of this proposal.

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We've been working on this for over a year.

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And the result is this text amendment will do two things.

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It's going to dissolve the current kind of sort of art and culture commission, and in this place, it's going to put the review authority to a designated staff person, which would be the art program coordinator.

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Currently the process for review goes to the zoning administrator in my office, and it's public, you know, notification, and it became problematic as far as the

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expediting and the proper process. So this, this structure, this proposal will solve a lot of the

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procedural challenges we've had over the last two, three years. And at the same time, it puts

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the review in the hands of someone who's much, much more qualified than I am, are dealing with

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our programming. And the person that is designated as this one, she's already on staff.

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She's here tonight, if you want to ask any questions, but we feel that this is the best way of dealing with the art program going forward.

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And I'm more than happy to give that, give her my blessing.

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And of course, final approval goes to City Manager's office.

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And then of course, Mayor Council will be given periodic updates on everything that's either being proposed or spot to be approved.

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So you're well aware of any upcoming projects.

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Questions or comments?

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I'm not real clear.

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I know there's a advisory board or advisory committee.

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I think it was five members.

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Yes.

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They will be selected to be used upon request as needed.

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But it's good to have an advisory committee in case there's more input

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required and they will be appointed through the city manager's office and they will have specific

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qualifications to serve on that advisory committee.

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So the city manager appoints them versus mayor and council appointing.

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The mayor?

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I think the mayor council will be made aware of that and of course it will be wed through the city

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manager's office.

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It just, you know, most boards, authorities, committees are appointed by the Mayor and Council.

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I don't have a real big opinion one way or the other would be done through a sort of jail for, personally,

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I'd be more comfortable.

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Would you have come up with an advisory committee and that it comes to us for validation?

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ratification or something. We can do that. We can discuss more. Yes. I want to speak for him on this one because

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my understanding is that this was just an advisory and sometimes you don't get people to serve on this or the right people

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They're an artist in their home versus somebody is more professional. That's what we're looking forward to. I mean, this is going to be on our agenda next.

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I think it's a good idea.

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It's a good idea.

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We'll have to answer the formula.

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Yeah, and I can't like here are the members' faults.

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I'm going to leave it suddenly with the city manager's office.

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Or raise it to a level where we ratify things.

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I'd love to hear your faults on the mound.

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I mean, I'm not really comment about it.

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So, to my understanding, the reason why we're doing this is basically making the process a lot more fluid and not as obstacle heavy.

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So, giving all the authority to the city manager and those who have a more artistic background,

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that's the process and makes it a lot more efficient.

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So we're not having six months hassles to set up a mural.

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I fully support the idea.

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What I think I've thought earlier around camp find it,

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but what the role of the arts coordinator in appointments,

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what is that?

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The, as you read the ordinance,

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there's certain complications for the members.

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It goes through, of course, the RC program coordinator to identify who applies, then it's given

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to the city manager for vetting.

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So it goes like a two-tier, and then we can decide depending on what mayor council would like.

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We can either have it where it stops at the city manager and he approves it and we create it

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or if you want it to come to you all for final blessing or identification before we make

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That's what we were.

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That was what this was all about making it simpler.

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I like the streamlined piece.

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It would be nice if, you know, here's what we're thinking of doing.

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Not necessarily we approve it because I think that at times we've had too much input.

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And we just go in a circle between the commissions and even then to the council.

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I'm happy with the way the program is set up.

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that you're what right now we're talking about is just approving the members of the, I'm on the whole members of the advisory board.

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Correct.

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Right.

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I think that was the question.

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You know, you typically boards committees, commissions that are appointed by us.

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If I understand the ordinance what it is now, basically, gentlemen would appoint those people.

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and it would never come to us or any action at all.

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But this isn't an ongoing sitting board. It would just be for

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Spas needed.

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Thanks.

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Don't be.

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Don't be on regular basis.

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There's no agendas.

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There's no.

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So I think I've done an action.

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Give public notice.

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Wait two weeks.

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Let us talk about it.

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Wait two more weeks.

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We're in the same position.

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We've been.

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Right.

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it grew, whether it's by us or by Jelf, they need to fetch an under-fultransparency ethics,

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but they need to have a genders, I mean. If we have to meet, we'll follow the meeting guidelines,

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As far as the qualifications, the reason we drafted this way is that we bet people all the time.

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It's based like any other committee.

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We want to qualify people and it's like you said, it's going to be as needed.

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So we're comfortable doing either way.

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If you wish to have it where the Advash Committee will be only ratified, then we move forward with all the other functions.

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We can do that, or if you want to leave it up to the city manager and you know, trust this judge and go, yes, that's fine and just keep going.

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It's really up to you.

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We heard from some of the council about wanting to streamline this process.

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I was getting too top-heavy to your point and so I think this is why we were pushing it this way.

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Yes.

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I understand what you're saying as well, but again, this was the ultimate goal given to the staff was.

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Streamline is, this makes our program more viable and quicker to respond to requests.

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Honestly, I don't see that one additional step of us ratify an appointment that has to do anything

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the streamlining, I mean it's mayor says. Jeff is recommended to these people, but okay,

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fine. So I mean we're not adding any things for us mandatory repairs or blessings, you know,

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I thought I'm disquestioning whether or not we should be the ones that

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eventually ratify these people being on a committee. That's not that's my only question.

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Okay. I agree. I agree with Pat. He's staying. I knew we wanted to streamline and things like that.

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Are the areas looking for it? You all, I guess, going to do a hit.

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Jeff is going to listen to Steve. We crack at every face since us.

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So long as I see that portion, either way, I'm looking at it.

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I kind of stand with Pat Sam, where it gives it a level.

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I was hit with the jealousy when it goes to the council like that.

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I'm for you to wait.

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Yes.

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As long as we get there and I pack each week.

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Yeah, that's going to be, that's going to be very straightforward, you'll always get updates and periodic reports.

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I would say though, the reason why I think the streamlined is better because they won't have any authority.

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They're advisory, they're not making any decisions.

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I see that we're making some type of decision you want to clarify because they're acting and making...

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Making some type of action, they're not doing that. They're strictly to assist staff in feedback. So there are any authority in the process at all. So that's why we kind of went this way.

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What would be a fluid group, right? I mean, if we're talking pain at heart, it might be one set of people. If it were dance or something, it might be another set of people. We're not going to have a five person board that we know who these five people are every time.

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is just going to come up episodically, right?

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They don't have different qualifications.

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It will be a well-rounded board.

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So whether it's performing arts, whether it's...

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I mean, it won't be the same.

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It won't be like the arts and commission

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where we know who these five people are every time,

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all the time for four years.

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They won't have turns and stuff like that.

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Oh, they will.

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I got you.

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I'm so confused.

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We want to keep it consistent.

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Just a good mix or a better representation

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in a vark across the board that she's putting together.

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Yeah, that's the goal is to get a well-versed advisory council that if you get people that all

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are into paintings and murals that don't do dance, if you don't take where you will apply,

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okay. And unfortunately, we're looking for people who not only have no art but they have networks,

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we're also looking at, if you look at foundations, the quality and the whole goal is to get people

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who know people, who know people, who can put us in position with other foundations, and

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that's who can bring to the table.

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Not just the technical skills, but who they know, and what their experience, that's the

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value.

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Do you have anything to add?

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No, I've said everything on YouTube.

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Do you have anything to add?

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So I think the big thing is, is that having the Council set up by Jeff, they're not going

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do anything that we don't approve in council. There's no art that's going to go up without us.

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There's nothing else. But I think having the advisory council, you know, was just what

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you were looking for. Was it? Do we want to ratify it or do we want to leave that with

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Jeff?

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I mean, I'm just on the way.

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Right, damn. I'm a little walk the same.

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Okay.

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I'm the most believe it is as it is.

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Okay. Thank you.

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It's a public hearing. It'll say where it is.

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We can make our comments known, maybe it were it is, okay?

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All right, and item B is the ordinance is the rezoning request for 21-12 and 21-14 old highway 41?

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Yes sir, this is a master plan and development.

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18-20, excuse me, forgive it for a second.

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I need to go back to 9-8.

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need you to state for the record that it was advertised properly, and that's a first meeting

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was by

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finding and zoning.

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So if you just state that for the record, sure,

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well, he's going to

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go ahead and state it now. Oh, sorry. I did hear you in the game, and I just need it so that we can move

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the first public hearing was done with the Planning Commission in November meeting and it was unanimous or zero.

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It was probably advertised and went to the public hearing process and they recommend to prove.

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Okay, again, we'll have the second and final hearing on Monday, Monday night.

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Okay.

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Moving on.

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Thank you, Darrell.

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We're moving on to item 9b, 21, 12, 21, 18, old highway, 41, and it also includes

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16, 20, is it North Roberts?

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Mm-hmm.

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We're a Robertsford.

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North Robertsford.

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So this is a master plan amendment, this will be, this is the second master plan amendment

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that would be before this Mirror and Council, this starts back in 2018 when you get a

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rezoned to a master plan zoning and in 2022 the applicants, the property where it came back

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and wanted to change and made a amendment to that master plan and the Mirror and Council approved

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the master plan with certain changes.

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Well, this amendment is also to change previously approved conditions.

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And we went through the staff analysis.

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We haven't ongoing discussions with the applicant.

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Before, during and after the planning commission meeting,

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there are still some unresolved disused with this project.

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And that is what led to your staff recommendation for denial of the ask.

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So after the planning commission meeting, I met with representative of the legal

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representative, and they decided to submit a letter.

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They did November 8th to ask for a table in the December 9th work session, and December 16th during council, so they can have a chance to do two things.

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One, meet with staff and see if we can resolve some of the outstanding things that were not accomplished in the original agreement.

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agreement. And two, we recognize that the site plan or this concept was not in line with what was approved in 2022 as far as certain key aspects.

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And so, they submitted the letter in your packet and they wish to defer or table the December to give them an opportunity to meet with staff.

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Resolve some of these outstanding issues if possible, and to work on a better or a more detailed

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site plan, before it's want to American Council.

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So the ask right now is, they wish to request tabling design.

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Okay, to table to the second meeting in December is the 16th of December 16th.

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And the number of sessions December 9th.

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Council, do you have any issues with the request?

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Well, we even as a public hearing, we'll hear Monday, we'll present again, and then we'll

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take the vote to postpone, postpone, to postpone until a specific date, because if we

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table, that comes at the end of the meeting, but we'll postpone it to a specific date.

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Right, and to have to make sure that we will send the New Deal last, to make sure

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We will change the signage on site and we will ask the property

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to send on just an adendom, mail out to everyone that was sent up before

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just a year.

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The public.

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In a few weeks, if you had made sure that the letter from the property

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owner says to postpone until specific date December 1960, instead of

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enabling and it would be correct.

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That correct.

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Very good.

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Thank you, Darrell.

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Thank you.

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About three items on the consent agenda.

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Chief, you have crime stats for October 2021.

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Yes, sir.

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Good evening.

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For October 2024, crime statistics are the group A offenses.

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We have an increase in assault offenses from 37 to 45,

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1.5 liter vehicle, theft from 0.5,

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vertebrae, state of the same with 3.

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No homicide cases.

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Largestly, he's went down by 5 from 16 to 11.

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0.0 sexual offenses.

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And robbery state of the same at 1 for total of 65 for 24.

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Compared to 60 of 23.

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This batch calls for service.

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We had 854, 1276,

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self-initiated off-strike activities, traffic citations, work at 5A, 6 traffic warnings at 630

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with 509 arrests. We're 138 auto accidents, 8 were with injuries, getting run at 20, hitting

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run with injuries at 0 and person hit by auto with injury at 0.

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Any comments or questions?

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And I think we're looking forward to hearing it Monday night.

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Thank you.

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Public Works, Ricky.

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David's the 14 A. Alpha's a Resolution,

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it's a cup County Water and sewer easement agreement.

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Yes, sir.

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P.R. Land Investments, which is the developer

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for Ross Point proposed development on McCullum.

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As requested, the water and sewer easement

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for copy on any water, the closest water in sewer for them the tie-in to is only

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court, which is separated from their development by a city park.

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So on the exhibit that included in the packet that's composite exhibit, there is a shaded

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pink area, which is what they're asking for for the sewer easement, which will either

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property in inner hours to tie into an existing sewer mantle that's there, then there

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is a shaded purple area, which is a widening of the existing sewer easement in order

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to give enough separation to place a water line, which they will tie into the encourt.

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So the request is by the developer, but the agreement is with COP County water system because

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say well ultimately on the he's

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got questions or comments

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you know a couple

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but then the area that this is that in the right way

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that's a lot of properties

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that's a lot of the think area is on

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the part property

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so that it stands up from the little park down there

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okay second question looks like they're going through that little

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market in a noob, say there's some plans for us, I'm assuming I'm wondering, or the developer

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somebody that they're going to have to put that back as it was, is that correct?

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There will be either the place back as it was or some form of a different configuration, there

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There is a development agreement where the developer is in the case of money into improving

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that part, so it's a sort of a coordinating name list with Parks and Rec, because first,

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the little part and play area goes.

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For the part will eventually become with the additional funding that we can't, we are working

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with parking right with that. For this, it's really coming through public works as far as

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what they need to be.

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Yeah, well, I'm just trying to make sure everybody's talking, working together, in the, you know,

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it, it, of course, would be nice to see and improvement. Right? Right, thank you.

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Well, this is, you know, a place, how long would that park be on the commission?

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That I could not tell you how would assume it would probably be just two to three months,

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but there has been a schedule that has been placed on this family broken ground yet on that project.

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It's been a dumb list of trucks out there, I'm going to do a demo, I'm going to do a demo.

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So the park itself is going to let me shut down for three months. Why does this all go now?

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How would assume it would be around three months?

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there's no way to coordinate that to keep it to where it's not going to have them

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which impact what I mean as far as the parks.

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Sorry.

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So the empty, you can't really avoid the impact you're going to have, if you equipment out there

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that you don't want kids playing around there, as far as the impact is, Tom was, we would place

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the same type of time restrictions as we would within the other construction where

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the seven and the more seven and even work times nothing later or earlier and we

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can't so it'll only be our authority. Now West, this is a new playground coming in

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right after that or of how it says. I can't answer that. Okay. That's all being

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and they did again with Parkland Wright.

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Thank you.

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But it's a consent, a consent item, of course.

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And resolution for the emergency stormwater repair.

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Yes, sir.

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Shortly after we had all the range from the Hurricane

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Baleen, the resident at 29, 79, Pam Hill Drive

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reached out to us about a storm drain

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runs through their property.

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We went out and looked at the bottom of the pipes completely

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gone and what has happened now with the amount of rain that we got. Water is no longer

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inside of the pipe, it's outside the pipe and it's caused the soil around the pipe and

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was on top of the pipe to now disappear. So we've got sections of exposed pipe.

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Ethan, if you don't mind, I've got some pictures of that dark area is supposed to be

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just as much pipe as the rest of it. There is no pipe there. The water, as you see, is

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that's flowing on the wrong side of the pipe.

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So, we have a contractor that we're currently under contract with, that's pro shot concrete, that's still in our pipe re-lining.

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We ask them to take a look at this, give us a proposal to see if we could get them while they're still in town to re-line this pipe.

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I'm considered an emergency repair just because it is causing damage to property creating

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sinkholes that I don't want to have, whether it's child animal or like was to end up in

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anything that we could be making repairs on.

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So they did offer two different methods of repair.

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the lowest alternate was 96,500 dollars and that's what I'm requesting that we

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authorized the proposal for that amount. So the day provided is

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pictured, we have capability of going to the infrastructure and taking the

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good deeds.

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Some of these are our pictures, some that they provided for us. We

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will, somewhat from stormwater, come in, presented a council, a status of our

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for structure. As I've been through years, I haven't had someone to come up as we yet.

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Um, I would like to see something like this. You have to condition because it is happening

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here. I'm pretty sure it's happening elsewhere around the city. Um, I think we need to get a

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tackle on this here. Um, let's, let's focus on that. That's why I'm in this first.

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You know, that is an action item for a down there. Yes. Um, any problems with, there is the

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Yeah, we're good.

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I suppose Jeff, that this day, I think he said he's going to talk to you.

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I don't know if he got with you or not.

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I hear the urgency in this.

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I hear the need for this.

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Frankly, I did not see this as an emergency.

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I mean, just be very honest with you.

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Then talk to Jeff earlier today.

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I thought that a way of approaching this

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It was just as it did into this current contract for the job third-billion.

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But every time I hear the word emergency, I just kind of get little red flags and go,

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geez, guys, you know, we kind of shortcut the round things.

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A emergency of the road collapses, tree falls down in the road.

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So, I'm going through something, it's a very property damage right now that's threatening

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somebody's life.

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That's what I said.

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That's what I said.

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That's what I said.

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That's what I said.

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That's what I said.

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That's what I said.

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I mean, I've driven the property.

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Is this on the back side or the lower side?

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Yeah, if you're looking at the houses on the left side of the property, if it goes

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See from home, however, on the street, it goes down under there.

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I mean, from when I can see the people's property,

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they're still using everything that little side drive away has washed off

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and into the ditch.

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So, I mean, honestly, just speaking from me,

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I don't see this as an emergency.

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the urgent yes needs to get, yes, with white to see this contract, to be able to go

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in and do what the rub here work on other stuff, but evenly beside them as an

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emergency after I just can't do with that reason.

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So there's, I mean, let me, let me, there's, there's an issue with trying to do a

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change order with this, and Randall, if may have to lean on you, there is a maximum

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percentage that you can change order or an original contract, and I think it's 24-25%

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this 96,000 exceeds that percentage. Not that I'm saying that this is an emergency to get

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around that I find this to be more of an emergency than it would be to do. These is what it would

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need to do as a change order, legally I can't do it as a change order because it exceeds the

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And we said, so where did all you do on a patch is they're going to just put like

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a piece of millet to bomb to seal the end and then you're going to attack well.

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There's something where you know what what a re-lining is or for this they do a spiral

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reinforcing the wire and they do a shot crate.

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It's like the old gun ice.

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I'll swim in pools where you actually shot concrete.

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They lie on the entire line.

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Okay, and the the the metal gives it the reinforcing back

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The concrete smooths out everything it fills in

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Where there is no longer any like so it is a better to just rip that hole

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How big is that span as far as how are we talking that lead is?

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Roughly a hundred and

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I

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think it's a hundred and a twenty or a hundred and thirty feet

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That's not just peace was that. That's the entire link to the point. I'm just trying to pop it.

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That's the 120 to 130 feet.

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So when you cheaper to dig out and put new equipment, so just put it like a fixed on it.

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No, one of would you cheaper to a lot to you're also now getting into being in there yard for extended period of time where this is, they do all their work on it around.

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Everything is done from inside the pipe.

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Understanding that emergency storm was that that meteor.

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I'm not talking about this state on the right for the community and the final platform

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for

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2652 South Maine.

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Good evening, Mayor and Council.

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Plan A and Zonebrens before you had an application for a final platform for a multifamily project

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located at 265 South Main Street.

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The application is to request.

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The application is to revise the final platform that was approved and recorded back in 2022

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there is vice-platenoteates updated water and sewer easement as requested by

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cobb water. The planer he committed including cobb water, cobb fire, and

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internal departments have reviewed the plan and deemed it in compliance.

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Let's recommend it in approval.

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I'd like to move it to consent.

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Yes. Okay.

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And then the discussion item 16B Bravo as a presentation.

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down town parcels, 28, 31, up main, 28, 61, and 271, and D1 door.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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You know, he used to, is here tonight to give a brief presentation.

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But I'd like to practice his presentation with a little background.

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As you all know, we've, his written order has been planned and proposed for at least five years.

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So for the last year, maybe two, we have worked to figure out financing how we get this

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finance.

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And we've arrived at the fact that it's just really not going to happen anytime soon

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unless the DVA and the city gets involved.

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So the ultimate ask on this is going to be, will the city help back at KDA bondage

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to have catalyzed the financing for Mr. Hughes's Main Street Breaking Order. Tonight, I would

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like to just give him the floor, let him talk about the project at our next work session

458
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:36,660
on the 25th. I'd like to bring Regan James and our financial advisors to give their take

459
00:38:36,660 --> 00:38:42,340
show you what the financing would look like, the risk, et cetera, and then in December on the

460
00:38:42,340 --> 00:38:51,060
I will come in and give a staff recommendation and presentation on other cities that I've done this and then hopefully in January

461
00:38:51,060 --> 00:38:57,200
if you all had a, you know, a lot of merit on this we can come back and make some decisions.

462
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:09,720
There's no reason to, there's no urgency, so there's no reason not to take a methodical approach to this and make sure you've got all information you need and

463
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:16,560
in making that kind of decision the first year. So with that, I'll let all that deal.

464
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,520
Thank you, Mary and Council. I've asked Cindy to come up here in Sanland with me in my life.

465
00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:36,500
I think I'll let know her and I'm going to confess as an older man-wide asker to come up here in Sanland.

466
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:44,020
I was sitting in that second row and some of your voices fit right in that slot where I couldn't hear you without amplification.

467
00:39:44,020 --> 00:39:48,940
So, this way, if you ask me a question, she's going to be my interpreter if I can't understand.

468
00:39:49,580 --> 00:39:51,140
So, that I don't have to read your lips.

469
00:39:51,860 --> 00:39:56,740
So, it's a very humbling confession, but it's a confession, and I hope you accept it that way.

470
00:39:57,500 --> 00:40:03,780
I've asked the staff to give you and your package, which if you don't have it, I'm not sure you get it,

471
00:40:03,780 --> 00:40:06,780
but my written notes on how I'm presenting this tonight.

472
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:11,380
Now, I'm going to tell you on the worst person to read a speech or do anything.

473
00:40:11,380 --> 00:40:15,740
I remember one time they sent me somewhere and they said just read it off the telepompter

474
00:40:15,740 --> 00:40:19,640
this is going to be televised it's going to be in television and then finally they just

475
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,140
turned the telepropter off and said you don't have a speech that I've never read anything

476
00:40:23,140 --> 00:40:30,240
in my life so I just want to speak to you from a heart show you what's up on these drawings

477
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:35,040
and walk you through and the reason I want to do this is I'm calling this for forming

478
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:40,680
our downtown and I don't mean that in any derogatory way I don't mean that in any way other

479
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:47,180
this is a big deal to me. I started working on it in 2012 and I initially named the

480
00:40:47,180 --> 00:40:52,980
block as the whistle stop block. I initially named it Common Ground. The reason I named it Common

481
00:40:52,980 --> 00:40:58,680
Ground is I wanted to be a place that we came together as every eight people and we share

482
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:05,720
of life and I thought it could reform how we viewed our downtown, our downtown. And I can say that

483
00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:12,060
cause for over 35 years I've lived three miles from here. So when you think about this project,

484
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:18,560
you ask me questions and we work together and we make changes or we do whatever we do.

485
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:24,680
Here's why I'm doing it. It's a legacy from my children. It's a legacy for your children,

486
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,440
and it's a legacy for the children of the members of our community. And that's the only reason

487
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:35,440
I'm doing this. It's going to be the last really, really big project like this I do. So I want you

488
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:40,880
think of it that way. Now what I'm going to ask is that we start with a street view. So whoever

489
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:48,260
has control of what I submitted, let's do the street view, that's not it.

490
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:54,760
All right, keep going there.

491
00:41:55,740 --> 00:42:03,940
All right. Now what I want you to do in I will try to stay close to this. If you come all the way over here,

492
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:10,380
see where my hand is pointing to the left, I'm calling this block. This block is right there at

493
00:42:10,380 --> 00:42:17,300
from the 1885. I want you to consider, and because I've done this for over 35 years, when

494
00:42:17,300 --> 00:42:23,660
you drive from downtown, from that direction, when you drive from South Maine to North Maine,

495
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,860
your eyes, on these two downtown blocks, are held for many, where from two minutes to five

496
00:42:29,860 --> 00:42:35,580
minutes, depending on whether you are speeding or you get caught in a traffic light. If you're

497
00:42:35,580 --> 00:42:37,260
Dessering it's much, much, much more.

498
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,340
It's not as relevant when you come from the other way,

499
00:42:40,340 --> 00:42:43,680
because when you come from North Maine to South Maine,

500
00:42:43,980 --> 00:42:46,700
your view line is turned over into what is now currently

501
00:42:46,700 --> 00:42:47,700
the end of the year.

502
00:42:48,380 --> 00:42:51,560
So my proposition and my theory on what we're doing

503
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,180
and what we're doing along with your help

504
00:42:55,180 --> 00:42:59,720
is we are significantly changing the view line of our downtown.

505
00:43:00,180 --> 00:43:03,120
Because if you just look at the colored buildings,

506
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,880
So those are the buildings that will be involved in this project.

507
00:43:06,500 --> 00:43:10,640
We have now captured the whole downtown view for two blocks

508
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,760
and we're gonna hold it for two to five minutes.

509
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,640
Now I'm gonna walk you through how we do that

510
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,640
and what's gonna be occurring in each of these buildings.

511
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,000
So when you come with the first building there,

512
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,360
it's a three-story building.

513
00:43:21,860 --> 00:43:23,480
So we didn't go with a large mass.

514
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,260
I'll get to that in a little while.

515
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,140
Why would it go to a large mass?

516
00:43:27,260 --> 00:43:29,440
And that is a risk that we're taking

517
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,140
that is not rewarded by traditional banks,

518
00:43:33,180 --> 00:43:35,520
and it is not rewarded in this fancy market.

519
00:43:36,260 --> 00:43:38,340
But my contention is down here,

520
00:43:38,420 --> 00:43:40,360
we don't need a lot more.

521
00:43:40,420 --> 00:43:43,660
We don't need the five storeys that technically,

522
00:43:43,780 --> 00:43:46,200
a revival in Maine, which is just right across the street.

523
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,200
It's literally a five storey there.

524
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:49,580
You might say, well, it's only a four,

525
00:43:49,740 --> 00:43:51,500
but go back over there and look at how it's built.

526
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,100
It's a five storey there.

527
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,060
This is a three storey.

528
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,420
What we'll do is only outside it,

529
00:43:57,420 --> 00:44:00,400
there, we will replicate on where it's on watts,

530
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,000
we'll replicate just like where you have over at Bunnies.

531
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,220
They'll be on outside seating there, okay?

532
00:44:05,660 --> 00:44:08,840
So this entire first floor is all retail.

533
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,860
So it's gonna be what we want it.

534
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,240
I've attended all the work sessions for 15 or 20 years

535
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:17,800
to I hear everything that I want

536
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,140
about a walkable downtown with places we can go eat,

537
00:44:21,180 --> 00:44:24,080
places we can go shop, places that we can do that.

538
00:44:24,180 --> 00:44:25,160
It will be all retail.

539
00:44:25,220 --> 00:44:27,060
We'll dedicate it all to that.

540
00:44:27,060 --> 00:44:33,520
But more importantly, what we're doing is it's two buildings that have an arcade in the middle.

541
00:44:33,740 --> 00:44:39,480
It's not a covered arcade. It's an open air. By having that, what we're doing is,

542
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,620
all of those retail spaces are going to have outside use. They're going to have a light coming in.

543
00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:51,120
It's not going to be retail that's in it. This was duplicated from a building in Asheville,

544
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,340
Actually, we'll go to Carolina with our architect, the Historic Arcade.

545
00:44:55,420 --> 00:44:57,820
So just look at the Grove Arcade out there.

546
00:44:58,700 --> 00:44:59,960
There's, is in close.

547
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:17,140
We're not going to enclose it, because I really felt like we needed to have a light. So what you can do, now you're walking on the street over towards what the grave building, which would be eating kind of practice, that will be just off the street enough that there can be outside seating there as well.

548
00:45:17,780 --> 00:45:29,980
So what I want you to understand, the concept is we're going to have outside seating or outside areas on every side of this building, including the backside, which we would be looking at right now, if we just looked right here out of city.

549
00:45:29,980 --> 00:45:34,180
So, the second floor will be office, the house balconies.

550
00:45:34,660 --> 00:45:37,000
I'm really studying and Jeff Trollney helped me do this.

551
00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:38,980
I stood on the stage at the amphitheater.

552
00:45:39,660 --> 00:45:42,920
We will be able to look directly off those balconies

553
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,140
just because of the elevations into the amphitheater.

554
00:45:45,300 --> 00:45:48,180
So, they're going to have really good views of this office over

555
00:45:48,180 --> 00:45:49,160
in the amphitheater.

556
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,780
What I would encourage you to do if you want to test my theorem that.

557
00:45:52,900 --> 00:45:55,860
Go stand on the amphitheater and look at the roof line

558
00:45:55,860 --> 00:45:57,520
of the Eaton Power Practice building.

559
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:04,740
And you'll be able to see that, okay, if our first floor is going to be close to there for a floor, that's definitely going to be there.

560
00:46:05,220 --> 00:46:10,760
The third level, what we're currently looking at is that either be offices of some sort or events.

561
00:46:11,260 --> 00:46:20,120
I really would prefer that it be events if we can sustain a very good event sound there, because I think if we back it off a little bit, which in the concept.

562
00:46:20,340 --> 00:46:24,920
So you see how the outside wall comes to the front right now where the balcony is?

563
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:30,700
Just imagine if I moved the building back a little bit, that's a 15,000 square feet out there on that third floor.

564
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,720
Let's take it back to 10,000 square feet.

565
00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:38,640
Then I could have an outside area up there, which were events we're looking directly in the amphitheater.

566
00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:47,840
What I envision is that now we can run events there that work with our festivals, that work we're looking into the downtown streets into the amphitheater.

567
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:57,940
And then we're really what we're going to do is we're going to support the retail that's in the area, the offices, we're going to support our surrounding ones too.

568
00:46:58,340 --> 00:47:04,720
Anybody that's in our city, we really want this to become a feature they have to run their events for their businesses or whatever they're going.

569
00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:13,520
I mean, I'm not, I don't actively participate in it because I'm just really busy and I know that's an excuse.

570
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:19,760
But I envision that, you know, why would our kind of solve business association not be meeting there and looking in our amphitheater?

571
00:47:20,820 --> 00:47:28,860
I haven't made a pitch to them, and I'm not saying that for any purpose other than it should be a central part of our downtown and how we use it.

572
00:47:28,860 --> 00:47:32,780
And it should be an event space that's used that way. So that's the concept we're working there.

573
00:47:32,980 --> 00:47:40,900
So you would look at retail, office, events. You notice what we don't have here, and I'll come back to a little bit. We have no apartments. We have no living.

574
00:47:40,900 --> 00:47:46,340
I am not opposed to, I believe people need, they need living arrangements, they need affordable

575
00:47:46,340 --> 00:47:50,220
living arrangements, and we need a good mix of it so that you can work through the cycles.

576
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,680
I'm probably going to be in that cycle pretty long, which you're going to put me in seeing

577
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,980
your living, so we're going to need some really good seeing your living.

578
00:47:56,780 --> 00:48:00,680
But as you walk now through the words Eatons, what I want you to know is when you get to

579
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:05,120
J.O. Stevens, this is the most dramatic part of this plan.

580
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:12,780
We pulled that two-story building, which I always call commongrounds Plaza, which we have on the drawing

581
00:48:12,780 --> 00:48:13,520
before for years.

582
00:48:13,780 --> 00:48:19,100
We pulled it to the street level, by pulling it to the street level, and then using it in conjunction

583
00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:22,100
with the car you're building, which is on the very end.

584
00:48:23,420 --> 00:48:27,340
It just captures your eye, and now you'll have two buildings that have been refinished.

585
00:48:27,820 --> 00:48:31,840
They're out at the street level, so it eliminates all the old buildings in the middle.

586
00:48:31,940 --> 00:48:34,200
It eliminates the science, it eliminates the view.

587
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:39,100
So what I've done is I've just really, in just one swoop of development, I've changed

588
00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:41,000
your view line as you go through our downtown.

589
00:48:41,820 --> 00:48:46,160
So you can say, well, downtown is not me in the vault for this reason or that reason.

590
00:48:46,540 --> 00:48:53,020
No, no, no, downtown now has a development that captures the outline and it is a very good

591
00:48:53,020 --> 00:48:54,460
development and it's well supported.

592
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,240
I want to take a minute and tell you what I mean by well supported.

593
00:48:57,240 --> 00:49:01,060
that corner as you cross J of Stevens, okay?

594
00:49:01,580 --> 00:49:04,140
If you cross J of Stevens, that's a pivotal corner.

595
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,000
That's common ground splacer.

596
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,980
That's where if you take your iPhone right now,

597
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,000
whatever you have, if you say, can a saw,

598
00:49:14,740 --> 00:49:15,760
and you try to search it,

599
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,240
that's where it's going to drop the dot.

600
00:49:17,940 --> 00:49:19,400
So that's where it's happening, okay?

601
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,180
So it takes for this sort of vision I had

602
00:49:23,180 --> 00:49:31,140
And I literally went out there and bought the whistle-stop right after it burned and bought a lot and thought,

603
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:36,700
okay, this is where it's going to happen, this is where it's going to come around, this is going to happen, this is where we're going to bring people together.

604
00:49:37,100 --> 00:49:39,000
And I've been on that search on the right people.

605
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:46,720
I'm going to introduce you tonight to Spencer Nix and Brian Stockton and that y'all can come up here and stand next to my wife for a minute.

606
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,760
They were a reformation brewery.

607
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:53,260
And I'm actually starting, so I'm telling you,

608
00:49:53,340 --> 00:49:55,540
we're changing this streetscape down here.

609
00:49:56,100 --> 00:49:58,360
I actually, my work and time on this,

610
00:49:58,540 --> 00:50:00,220
which you'll see in the notes that they get to you,

611
00:50:00,220 --> 00:50:02,500
as I'm calling it, we're performing blocks.

612
00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:06,600
And when I talk about my story and what I'm doing now,

613
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,320
we'll coffee and every eight people group

614
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,300
and bring people together and trying to change our society

615
00:50:12,300 --> 00:50:14,220
that way from businesses that are dedicated

616
00:50:14,220 --> 00:50:16,080
that have good back and whatever,

617
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:22,760
We went through a period, but I had to find somebody else as an acre-tinent there, and I met

618
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:23,500
the next brothers.

619
00:50:23,820 --> 00:50:24,540
They owned their information.

620
00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:26,400
They owned it in all of its locations.

621
00:50:26,740 --> 00:50:30,720
I heard their backs to where you, and why they're doing what they're trying to do with

622
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:34,480
people, and what they're trying to do with their business, and how they get to it.

623
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:35,880
And I said, thank you, God.

624
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:37,020
That's all I said.

625
00:50:37,140 --> 00:50:39,360
I said, God, I found the right people.

626
00:50:40,100 --> 00:50:44,500
Now, I don't let you just ask them any questions you want, because they're going to sit down.

627
00:50:44,500 --> 00:50:48,340
I don't take you through the rest of it, just about our community and why do they want to come here?

628
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,760
But I'm going to ask them, and I want to ask them,

629
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:56,260
I'm going to ask them two questions that I just whispered in there.

630
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,280
So I'm going to ask you two questions.

631
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,100
I've never told you, I don't know what you're answering for.

632
00:50:59,540 --> 00:51:02,360
I said it on that month, and that we are aligned.

633
00:51:03,580 --> 00:51:07,140
So they kindly invited me to their K and its festival.

634
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:14,480
Well, two weeks ago, two weeks ago, two weeks ago,

635
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:19,060
with their drinks and their food and their programs a lot like when I show you the

636
00:51:19,060 --> 00:51:25,260
aerial views we want to do here and what was it a 3-day festival? 3-day festival they ran

637
00:51:25,260 --> 00:51:34,420
so in 3 days and I went out there and I was done at the music and the R and the food and the kids

638
00:51:34,420 --> 00:51:42,620
and the dogs and it was my dream and it was everything I've ever wanted about how we bring people

639
00:51:42,620 --> 00:51:49,280
together and how we live this society and how we do business well together. How many people

640
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,260
Spencer did you bring in those three days that lived that dream?

641
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,760
Yes, and it's our about 6,500 team through the weekend.

642
00:51:58,970 --> 00:52:03,490
Our Spencer, now here's my other question, because shortly after doing that, he announced his

643
00:52:03,490 --> 00:52:08,210
get back and I'll get the name wrong and I'll probably not be speaking a little bit about

644
00:52:08,210 --> 00:52:13,510
are another thing, but it was shepherds, different men, and they gave, because you do the

645
00:52:13,510 --> 00:52:17,110
one thing leading up to that, and you gave one of the largest chefs you've ever given

646
00:52:17,110 --> 00:52:17,430
to them.

647
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:22,310
I don't want to embarrass you, because you know, you do good for community, and that's why

648
00:52:22,310 --> 00:52:26,930
I want you here with us, and what we do, what was that check you gave to them, we were able

649
00:52:26,930 --> 00:52:30,670
to do $10,000 check-in, check-in, this is how they do business.

650
00:52:30,930 --> 00:52:36,230
This is why I want them on a pivotal corner, I didn't know the answer to you to those, okay,

651
00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:38,810
if it's staged, I don't say each thing.

652
00:52:39,890 --> 00:52:42,330
They are the epitome of common grounds

653
00:52:42,330 --> 00:52:43,770
and what we need to do in that corner.

654
00:52:44,490 --> 00:52:47,010
And then we will put the food programs over

655
00:52:47,010 --> 00:52:48,930
into the callers, it will all be there.

656
00:52:49,110 --> 00:52:50,050
I'll take you through the arrows.

657
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:51,930
But I'm a step over here for a minute

658
00:52:51,930 --> 00:52:53,790
because they're going to sit back down.

659
00:52:53,990 --> 00:52:55,490
They may want to go back home and spawn

660
00:52:55,490 --> 00:52:56,590
or they can hang afterwards.

661
00:52:57,210 --> 00:52:58,870
You all have any questions for them?

662
00:53:01,290 --> 00:53:02,330
I think you'll place it for them.

663
00:53:04,570 --> 00:53:07,030
Very, we're super excited about the project.

664
00:53:07,030 --> 00:53:11,530
I don't spend their founder, CEO, Ryan, to a CEO of Lomb of KSU.

665
00:53:11,970 --> 00:53:14,050
We're already working partnerships with the college.

666
00:53:14,350 --> 00:53:15,690
We're really excited, then.

667
00:53:15,790 --> 00:53:20,470
If you guys have any questions for me any time, I'm right up the road, too.

668
00:53:20,590 --> 00:53:21,110
I'm available.

669
00:53:21,910 --> 00:53:25,570
I want to tell you all right, Alan, there are locations they have.

670
00:53:25,750 --> 00:53:26,810
How many locations do you have?

671
00:53:27,050 --> 00:53:27,070
I know.

672
00:53:27,190 --> 00:53:28,330
We have three locations.

673
00:53:28,850 --> 00:53:33,690
We were birthed out of Woodstock and then our production, main production, breweries,

674
00:53:33,690 --> 00:53:37,910
and Canton, Georgia, and then we have a small R&D

675
00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:39,630
and smart on the Chinese River.

676
00:53:40,890 --> 00:53:43,270
So I'm going to tell you this, when I started

677
00:53:43,270 --> 00:53:45,910
talking with them, it's saying, I think we have a lot

678
00:53:45,910 --> 00:53:47,670
in common, I think we can do this.

679
00:53:48,330 --> 00:53:50,570
They told me they said, we're here for the list of cities

680
00:53:50,570 --> 00:53:51,550
that want us.

681
00:53:52,350 --> 00:53:54,790
And I said, well, you go any of those cities you want to.

682
00:53:54,810 --> 00:53:58,130
I said, because that's not why I'm coming out to you.

683
00:53:58,630 --> 00:54:00,710
I said, you can go to them.

684
00:54:00,710 --> 00:54:05,230
You might find a landlord that does a better economic deal for you.

685
00:54:05,470 --> 00:54:08,610
You might find a city that throws more at you,

686
00:54:08,790 --> 00:54:12,910
but are you going to ever find anybody who shares a vision you have

687
00:54:12,910 --> 00:54:15,690
on how they want their business to impact the community.

688
00:54:16,030 --> 00:54:16,990
And what did you say, Spencer?

689
00:54:17,850 --> 00:54:18,470
Absolutely not.

690
00:54:18,690 --> 00:54:20,350
I mean, this is why we exist.

691
00:54:21,050 --> 00:54:24,450
We make products, but why we make them is what matters.

692
00:54:24,630 --> 00:54:28,410
And it is about thirst, face, between home and work.

693
00:54:28,410 --> 00:54:33,650
and we want to provide that for the community to come together which is what Dale's vision was

694
00:54:33,650 --> 00:54:39,540
from the beginning which made this a really easy partnership. So I want y'all to know

695
00:54:39,950 --> 00:54:46,370
this is my anchor, okay? The rest that we do, I've already started talking to them. I said,

696
00:54:46,730 --> 00:54:53,170
who has this sort of vision in common that we have? They said, oh, Dale, let me out on our role

697
00:54:53,170 --> 00:54:57,470
So that's the show you because we've been in these communities and we know the family

698
00:54:57,470 --> 00:55:02,910
oriented, the community oriented, the ones that will really do this, so it's just not what

699
00:55:02,910 --> 00:55:05,490
I wouldn't do this to my community in your community.

700
00:55:05,670 --> 00:55:06,610
It's just not the subway.

701
00:55:06,770 --> 00:55:10,230
We're dropping in on the corner because they're going to pay me $45 a square foot.

702
00:55:10,270 --> 00:55:11,390
We're not going for that.

703
00:55:11,510 --> 00:55:12,530
We're going for this.

704
00:55:13,010 --> 00:55:13,890
So thank you.

705
00:55:13,890 --> 00:55:14,130
Thank you.

706
00:55:14,630 --> 00:55:15,390
Thank you.

707
00:55:15,430 --> 00:55:15,870
That's me.

708
00:55:16,330 --> 00:55:17,070
Thank you.

709
00:55:17,390 --> 00:55:21,810
So now what I want to do is if we can go to the aerial, I'll just spend a few minutes on the

710
00:55:21,810 --> 00:55:22,130
aerial.

711
00:55:22,130 --> 00:55:26,930
so that you understand how this operates from the top and then I'll tell you why I'm

712
00:55:26,930 --> 00:55:33,170
having to ask for your support. So you can see behind and I'm going out.

713
00:55:35,270 --> 00:55:35,930
I'm going to show you

714
00:55:35,930 --> 00:55:38,350
something I'm going to walk away. I won't have this here.

715
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:46,400
I definitely don't.

716
00:55:49,050 --> 00:55:50,030
What I think we're going

717
00:55:50,030 --> 00:55:56,310
to do, we just need really on the third floor. That's all the minutes. We need a servicing

718
00:55:56,310 --> 00:55:57,750
alley to get back and poor.

719
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,400
And then so this will be open air and I think what we do here and I really

720
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:09,380
want to look at it because I've seen a lot of them in office. I work in other cities in different

721
00:56:09,380 --> 00:56:15,460
cities in Atlanta or in any other city in the US. I think I want a glass walkway here,

722
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,720
because in between when you're staging events, it's just near you, you can go out there

723
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:23,740
and have some dreams or just sit have a cup of coffee and you can look over there.

724
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:29,040
So I really want to see this change a little bit in this change. So let's be parking back here.

725
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:34,900
And then here's the information we acted with a lot of the street.

726
00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:37,560
We can sit out here.

727
00:56:38,220 --> 00:56:40,680
This is, and I'm just going to call it the Scooby-Dally,

728
00:56:41,620 --> 00:56:43,540
which is a shopping plane, a grocery shopping.

729
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,440
Does it keep playing ownership of it?

730
00:56:45,580 --> 00:56:47,680
We can take care of a lot of problems like that.

731
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:52,000
I hope these, I know I'm all the way to work here.

732
00:56:53,140 --> 00:56:57,360
I know from the documents that are in the file that I can probably take with the position

733
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:03,800
that is not restricted, but also being longer and haven't done it for a lot of people across the country.

734
00:57:04,220 --> 00:57:07,640
I also know I've wasted about four times. I've been on a money on someone's life.

735
00:57:07,740 --> 00:57:11,680
I've raised a man there as a brother, and I'm just not going to do that, but it's what you can do.

736
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,840
As you know, I'm just building a new law for a lot of people.

737
00:57:19,300 --> 00:57:22,120
I'm building a new law here and building a new law here and building around here.

738
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,420
And in this fact, here would be a lot of my cities.

739
00:57:30,050 --> 00:57:32,650
This would be the, you know, there would be some production

740
00:57:32,650 --> 00:57:33,570
back in here.

741
00:57:33,830 --> 00:57:36,770
This is a stage we work with the art program.

742
00:57:37,250 --> 00:57:40,470
This, what I want you to think about right in here, is like,

743
00:57:40,530 --> 00:57:42,390
if you've ever been to the Woodstock location,

744
00:57:42,690 --> 00:57:44,410
it's like that graph area back there.

745
00:57:44,750 --> 00:57:47,350
So it's a very small entertainment area,

746
00:57:47,350 --> 00:57:50,330
graph area that supports what's going on,

747
00:57:50,470 --> 00:57:52,550
and deeper part of the interviewer.

748
00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:54,730
And it's worth bringing people across,

749
00:57:56,610 --> 00:58:01,670
and then the goal is to walk to all the other businesses that we just really become a walking community.

750
00:58:01,870 --> 00:58:06,070
Once we can get them to park somewhere, they start walking, they see us next.

751
00:58:06,550 --> 00:58:11,770
I'm going to take a minute here, because I've heard your part thing, and I've already worked with Reformation,

752
00:58:12,030 --> 00:58:16,070
and we want to be your first person, and I call the Kinna Salt Art line.

753
00:58:16,730 --> 00:58:20,790
We don't have a belt line up here, but why can't we have the Kinna Salt Art line?

754
00:58:20,790 --> 00:58:31,990
So as we work with this community here in the form of top poles for, you know, can we do some performing stuff here that we schedule it in when you're not doing something really big over at the end of the year.

755
00:58:32,070 --> 00:58:42,990
Something smaller, just like a shoe, can we put some visual art in the events areas and we'll make it accessible that people can come there. Can we put it in other areas.

756
00:58:44,130 --> 00:58:49,570
Reformation is already said they'll donate to that out of our property, we'll donate to that.

757
00:58:49,730 --> 00:58:51,310
But here's what I really want to do.

758
00:58:51,770 --> 00:58:57,810
And we need to use some of the copies of that just crossing the amphitheater at the Rosary and the Church.

759
00:58:58,310 --> 00:59:00,890
We could do some there and some of our properties of the Cherokee.

760
00:59:01,670 --> 00:59:05,550
But the reason, but it's no good if we're the only ones doing it.

761
00:59:05,970 --> 00:59:08,690
I will actually go out there and recruit other business owners.

762
00:59:08,690 --> 00:59:23,530
It just makes sense, so, you know, just names of people 18, 8, 5, you know, pouring down, just taking out, I'll go recruiting all the way to catch you, because theoretically, from our downtown, I suppose,

763
00:59:25,980 --> 00:59:28,200
that's very long, that's very long.

764
00:59:29,670 --> 00:59:32,330
If we have a market, it comes more walk.

765
00:59:32,970 --> 00:59:39,150
So, I think we need to have a tennis ball art line that we have a mouse on it

766
00:59:39,150 --> 00:59:43,790
and that their own neural group is just running that and promoting it all the time

767
00:59:43,790 --> 00:59:44,610
and what's up here.

768
00:59:44,970 --> 00:59:48,090
Here, walk the art line, visit these businesses.

769
00:59:48,670 --> 00:59:49,710
We also have a business line.

770
00:59:53,580 --> 00:59:54,680
I wanted to see this.

771
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,580
Now, take me to the next area.

772
00:59:58,440 --> 00:59:59,980
And I may have to go back up businesses.

773
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:07,800
Now let's walk backwards. Well, that words, probably five. I think it's five backwards.

774
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,060
I stop. Stop. No, one more.

775
01:00:14,740 --> 01:00:22,280
That's good. Alright, so now we're back on the arcade. So here's what you can see once here. So this parking will be gone.

776
01:00:22,300 --> 01:00:27,780
This will be the outside. We'll go right to our parking line. This is what I was saying when we make it like bernies.

777
01:00:28,260 --> 01:00:34,400
So what I want you to see here is on that bottom floor. You really have outside all in light all the way.

778
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:40,400
We leave a pedestrian between us at Eden so you have outside all the way around it for the parking to back.

779
01:00:40,580 --> 01:00:43,460
Now we're going one more slide forward. We'll go forward now.

780
01:00:44,820 --> 01:00:51,080
So this is a, you know, the interior walls will change, but this is the arcade at a ground level.

781
01:00:51,540 --> 01:00:57,840
Again, arcade blocks here, mainstream here. So I just want you to see how the retail

782
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:02,740
mind lay out. But again, you know, so many comes in and says, I want to have one, two, three

783
01:01:02,740 --> 01:01:05,620
size and they want to mark this, we divide it up that way.

784
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:10,960
This is just, you can put your walls wherever you want to on the interior floor.

785
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:15,800
So this is a retail on the lower, go ahead and show me the second, I only do a second

786
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:16,700
floor here.

787
01:01:18,300 --> 01:01:24,780
This, if this is also talked about two or three years ago, as I'm working through trying to get

788
01:01:24,780 --> 01:01:27,640
this for me, it's trying to get this, because I have them for a while.

789
01:01:27,940 --> 01:01:32,300
That's the easiest thing we've got something coming up at them, but if you're trying to get

790
01:01:32,300 --> 01:01:39,000
finance to what is, you know, overall, the huge project, it links about $30 million dollars.

791
01:01:39,300 --> 01:01:43,640
Everybody says, all the businesses want to say, we don't like, we don't like, we don't

792
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:47,900
even though we don't have some very little dates. And I said, we'll plug in, like, what

793
01:01:47,900 --> 01:01:52,000
we can answer, you guys already know, because it's being finance to child care.

794
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,340
They can answer partners. They say, put a couple of orders of partners up there.

795
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,700
Get that approval. Do it.

796
01:01:57,700 --> 01:02:04,600
What we look at introduced me I'm not a corporate person. I can do office. I can get retail and I can do accounts because I

797
01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:10,720
Know I can do those and I can do it. But I'm not a corporate. So I go talk to them. They say we're very interested.

798
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,640
It's in the central place. It's downtown. I say, okay, come on. What you'll do.

799
01:02:14,820 --> 01:02:19,340
I say, okay, get me four more four to my mobile. Why do you need four more four?

800
01:02:19,980 --> 01:02:25,280
You know, let's just do 20 or 50 apartments. So like then and you got to do 200 apartments.

801
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,780
300, but she got to create the critical mouse, and that's what we need.

802
01:02:29,180 --> 01:02:33,200
And I just get to the point, this is where I've installed out, and it's structuring the

803
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:33,540
infrastructure.

804
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:38,060
Remember, I'm like, I'm, I don't want to do a part, so I don't want to don't.

805
01:02:38,060 --> 01:02:42,340
Two or three hundred, it's part of it's one, the two best spots in town.

806
01:02:42,420 --> 01:02:46,200
Okay, now, they're going to be a cross-and-rainted data where we can change the streets

807
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:46,640
game.

808
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:51,640
So, I got away from that now, go to the next slide, and you won't see the third

809
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,160
because I haven't designed out in the inventory yet.

810
01:02:54,460 --> 01:02:57,580
I'm now just considered it based over in the 18th house to work for you.

811
01:02:57,940 --> 01:02:59,540
This is the reformation plot.

812
01:03:00,540 --> 01:03:03,760
This is the call yours, this will be what's going to stop, this will be the new building.

813
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:09,120
So here's the disputed alley, the only thing you see there is already how it restraps in there,

814
01:03:10,300 --> 01:03:17,060
so this would be that back area, and we're just trying to figure out that production and work that.

815
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:21,180
But you really just want to frame this off, this is all grass in here,

816
01:03:21,180 --> 01:03:27,720
this is a stage work with how to turn it, make sure that it's applying you lines from the

817
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:31,440
amphitheater, so people see it. So what's going on here that come over here, then then walk

818
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:39,320
to the other businesses. First of all, that's for Ryan, you know, how do you design it, Ryan?

819
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:44,020
How do you even people to flow? This will be food element in here, so you've got to have multiple

820
01:03:44,020 --> 01:03:48,680
food elements in it. They'll be a food element over there to support the reformation.

821
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,640
So, next line,

822
01:03:53,150 --> 01:03:54,550
this is showing you the second board.

823
01:03:54,730 --> 01:03:58,310
All this is showing you a second board that's one of the building up on the three.

824
01:03:58,730 --> 01:04:00,350
Next line should be that,

825
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:05,800
let me see what that was you should.

826
01:04:08,590 --> 01:04:11,610
Yeah, this is the bottom board, bottom board here,

827
01:04:11,610 --> 01:04:14,010
and it's just a reverse way, and this is what it was about.

828
01:04:15,470 --> 01:04:21,590
So, this is main to read out here, next line, and this is the second board.

829
01:04:22,070 --> 01:04:24,650
Next line, and we're back to this.

830
01:04:25,150 --> 01:04:32,950
So, that's my concept, the reason I'm here, you've already sort of heard it because of how I presented it.

831
01:04:33,670 --> 01:04:37,430
If I want to get financing without your help, they want apartments.

832
01:04:38,190 --> 01:04:41,910
So, I could come in here to tell you I want apartments. We could go through all of that.

833
01:04:41,910 --> 01:04:44,030
I'm not going to come here in LIT. I don't want apartments.

834
01:04:45,630 --> 01:04:48,330
Okay? So, I'm just stuck in this spot.

835
01:04:49,330 --> 01:04:53,250
All right. We got a great anchor that's willing to come right now.

836
01:04:54,650 --> 01:05:00,890
For the minute we put that anchor there, the RK is going to take off because we know what happens around them.

837
01:05:01,130 --> 01:05:02,370
Go look at either locations.

838
01:05:02,850 --> 01:05:06,310
Go to any one of those name names. Can't in what stock will see what happens.

839
01:05:06,970 --> 01:05:12,130
It will come. People will come and it will work. I just quit taking the calls.

840
01:05:13,190 --> 01:05:17,290
Because then I didn't have the financing and it frustrates the tenants.

841
01:05:18,170 --> 01:05:22,570
And it frustrates them to no end because they say, when are you going to start? We want you to start.

842
01:05:22,570 --> 01:05:27,290
I thought about doing it the way I know he did whole foods and he wanted me to do one with him

843
01:05:27,290 --> 01:05:28,670
Athens, but

844
01:05:30,050 --> 01:05:39,750
Timpler Jeff I can't remember Jeff's last name and I work with him in the 80s and 90s, but he did the whole foods out there similar guys Jeff whatever they they'll start their projects

845
01:05:39,750 --> 01:05:42,790
And they'll do their allies and they'll take you two or three years

846
01:05:42,790 --> 01:05:48,630
They finally toured the varsity down in Athens and he wanted me to sign the letterment 10 with him three years ago for one of my coffee shops

847
01:05:48,630 --> 01:05:51,130
And I'm like just call me up when you get ready to do it

848
01:05:51,130 --> 01:06:00,970
I want to sign a letter of intent and then be stuck in a holding pattern for three years and I'm not doing that in a mine, but I have a list that we can just unload it right now

849
01:06:00,970 --> 01:06:10,290
between Reformation and us, and we can fill those. And you can say, well, why did the banks not want to do it? I can say, well, I sold one of the banks that want to do it.

850
01:06:10,410 --> 01:06:15,930
The banks want to hold either apartments or they want something else. They're just not going to do it. And you can say,

851
01:06:15,930 --> 01:06:18,030
that's not true, and I'd say we'll send them out.

852
01:06:18,150 --> 01:06:19,030
It's not talked to them anymore.

853
01:06:19,230 --> 01:06:20,390
I talked to them for three years.

854
01:06:20,830 --> 01:06:22,050
That's why I need to help from you.

855
01:06:22,050 --> 01:06:23,030
I want to stimulate this.

856
01:06:23,330 --> 01:06:26,610
And what I'll do for you is I'll bring my information.

857
01:06:27,850 --> 01:06:28,910
I'll take that car you're building.

858
01:06:29,170 --> 01:06:31,470
I'll buy it for you for once you pay for it.

859
01:06:31,550 --> 01:06:34,190
I will restore it because I've evaluated three times

860
01:06:34,190 --> 01:06:37,070
because the guy actually defaulted them on the contract for me twice.

861
01:06:37,530 --> 01:06:40,710
So I've already evaluated from an engineering and structural standpoint.

862
01:06:41,190 --> 01:06:42,830
And I know I'll fit within my budget.

863
01:06:42,830 --> 01:06:49,830
And I know that what you can do when you speak to your bond under riders next week, because I've spent time

864
01:06:49,830 --> 01:06:53,610
Gordon, I just had breakfast with him again earlier this week, and I went over it.

865
01:06:53,710 --> 01:06:59,750
I know that the least we have in place will support the bond with the extra space.

866
01:06:59,790 --> 01:07:03,470
I need the extra space to be able to support that.

867
01:07:03,590 --> 01:07:09,290
I also know because I watch the city for 15 years with what you'll do with the property tax

868
01:07:09,290 --> 01:07:14,130
statement, you're already going to have to put this in your name anyway. So what we'll do is

869
01:07:14,130 --> 01:07:19,150
we'll put it in your name. We'll clatter-wise the bond that way. You'll do a silly

870
01:07:19,150 --> 01:07:24,850
back. If I'm this one payment, you take it. You take every money at that point. It fully clatter-wise

871
01:07:24,850 --> 01:07:30,130
a sit. We're able to do that. It will jump-start the other block. But what I'll also tell

872
01:07:30,990 --> 01:07:37,030
you is until such time, as, and I talked in the morning about this until such time, as

873
01:07:37,030 --> 01:07:41,830
We've activated all of it and we have some senior lending and place on the other.

874
01:07:41,870 --> 01:07:45,550
Since you have to, you're going to do the property tax for both blocks, the abatement.

875
01:07:45,870 --> 01:07:49,070
Just like you do anyone, just keep a security position over there.

876
01:07:49,330 --> 01:07:50,930
You're more than secure at that point.

877
01:07:51,190 --> 01:07:55,930
That's just like, okay, you're secure by two blocks with a credit tenant over here.

878
01:07:56,010 --> 01:07:58,210
So that's what you're going to hear from your underwriter next week.

879
01:07:58,210 --> 01:08:00,450
I've spoken to them many, many times.

880
01:08:00,850 --> 01:08:01,950
That's how you button it up.

881
01:08:01,950 --> 01:08:02,910
That's how you secure it.

882
01:08:02,970 --> 01:08:05,410
You can say, how are you so confident on that?

883
01:08:05,410 --> 01:08:08,770
bus bond council, I used to do this. Okay I used to do bond

884
01:08:08,770 --> 01:08:12,230
and council for buildings, like the Cock's Development, and

885
01:08:12,230 --> 01:08:15,550
Primeter Center and Cindy Springs when we were located. There I actually

886
01:08:15,550 --> 01:08:18,490
was developing the council, it was different. But I've been

887
01:08:18,490 --> 01:08:22,670
bond council too for a long term credit bank in others. But that's my

888
01:08:22,670 --> 01:08:27,790
pitch, that's the concept I'm glad to ask any question you ask, answer any

889
01:08:27,790 --> 01:08:32,110
question you ask, I'm glad to...work with you. And if you see something

890
01:08:32,110 --> 01:08:35,070
there, you say, what did you think about this? And why is that a

891
01:08:35,070 --> 01:08:39,750
I'm glad to be a part of the community, that's who I am.

892
01:08:40,550 --> 01:08:40,830
I have a question.

893
01:08:41,530 --> 01:08:44,250
Do you think that parking deck is going to be the easiest to help?

894
01:08:44,730 --> 01:08:46,430
Do you have enough parking spots with that?

895
01:08:47,410 --> 01:08:48,850
I'm not going to do a parking deck.

896
01:08:48,990 --> 01:08:49,590
I'm going to do a flat.

897
01:08:50,050 --> 01:08:52,850
You have 900 parking spaces within the city.

898
01:08:54,190 --> 01:08:56,050
You have the church over there.

899
01:08:56,170 --> 01:09:00,190
You have a parking deck that has a taxpayer on paying for where directly across the street.

900
01:09:00,570 --> 01:09:04,550
So the parking, so it's a myth when people say we don't have downtown parking.

901
01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:08,590
is a myth, okay? We have the parking.

902
01:09:10,660 --> 01:09:15,060
Before Luke, it was by the fox, we have within

903
01:09:15,060 --> 01:09:21,440
our block, nine hundred spaces that you've secured within walking distance. So it is,

904
01:09:21,440 --> 01:09:28,520
it is a myth when they say we don't have parking. Here's what you don't have. If you want to pull up

905
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:32,660
and if that's where you're eating and you want to park right here, you might not have that.

906
01:09:32,660 --> 01:09:37,500
Okay, well within this block, you're going to have it, because you and I both know right

907
01:09:37,500 --> 01:09:41,800
over there is a parking deck, we're paying it for it, right over there with the Baptist

908
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:42,180
Church.

909
01:09:42,380 --> 01:09:45,480
This block in half a way is a huge amount of spaces.

910
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:50,220
The dentist office, we have a huge amount, there's some stuff going to go in and we'll illustrate

911
01:09:50,220 --> 01:09:51,280
where we have a huge amount.

912
01:09:51,480 --> 01:09:56,360
I would tell you, I can support this with something even easier to work.

913
01:09:56,480 --> 01:10:01,060
I have about a hundred spaces at my grocery that is very easy to access.

914
01:10:01,060 --> 01:10:09,320
So, know the parking deck is not being built to support all anticipated needs because we already have the parking here.

915
01:10:14,750 --> 01:10:22,290
Get the existing whistle stop building, but there you can take it down.

916
01:10:22,290 --> 01:10:29,710
You know, see, see, one thing I'm sitting there trying to visualize, here you got collar,

917
01:10:30,010 --> 01:10:37,290
you come across them, and then you go from three-story to one-story, it just seems me,

918
01:10:37,830 --> 01:10:44,470
like I'd rather see the whistle stop go, and you go ahead and bounce up to three-story

919
01:10:44,470 --> 01:10:45,730
right there.

920
01:10:46,030 --> 01:10:48,470
Take me to the street view for a minute.

921
01:10:49,410 --> 01:10:54,460
All right, well, all right, here's what's the stop.

922
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,260
What's the stop from an engineering standpoint,

923
01:10:57,460 --> 01:10:59,760
cannot support something on top of it?

924
01:10:59,860 --> 01:11:01,260
It's the same thing that we're losing.

925
01:11:01,380 --> 01:11:03,740
We're really developing a second story.

926
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:06,300
When you look at the steel and the engineering

927
01:11:06,300 --> 01:11:08,440
that needs to go into it, it's a massive,

928
01:11:08,620 --> 01:11:11,060
it's been supply to collect what's done by the KDA

929
01:11:11,060 --> 01:11:12,960
for a burger five.

930
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:18,020
you really have to subsidize it pretty heavily. I would like to do that for a different

931
01:11:18,020 --> 01:11:21,560
person. Okay, we won't go into my reason because I like to take it up there because

932
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:28,860
you really do eliminate a lot of what I call the remnants of the old geese. Okay, and I've actually

933
01:11:28,860 --> 01:11:37,060
had users from, it's about 10 years ago, they did studies on what a rooftop bar up here with

934
01:11:37,060 --> 01:11:41,880
look like, sun studies and how good it would be and that you know they could come make their

935
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:48,120
in front of the old, the nostalgic sign or whatever, and I already evaluated that pad.

936
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:56,240
It's very, very hard to do. Now, if over time I'm working with Reformation, and so this

937
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,520
is going to be here and they say, well, we think we can get steel in there. We can open

938
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:04,320
that up and go over there and it can be an outside area. We can do it. I would consider it,

939
01:12:04,580 --> 01:12:09,760
but you're going to go three, two, one, back up the two. You're exactly right.

940
01:12:11,380 --> 01:12:20,960
I'm not saying to you, it's this team building, I'm saying a tear down what is there to start fresh from the ground up.

941
01:12:26,220 --> 01:12:27,680
I'm gonna stand way up here.

942
01:12:32,970 --> 01:12:38,470
And I thought I was gonna have to be like, you'll meet my savior that day when I do work it to me.

943
01:12:38,570 --> 01:12:40,130
And those buildings do work that day.

944
01:12:40,270 --> 01:12:42,130
And they were in huge, huge batch day.

945
01:12:42,770 --> 01:12:47,110
I'm going to look at you as a guy that has developed up in the station.

946
01:12:47,350 --> 01:12:49,690
I read it over the work after the noise was in there.

947
01:12:49,830 --> 01:12:53,270
We had to do it and put it to where it not read in the lacy gap, put it in there.

948
01:12:53,390 --> 01:12:54,710
I read it once for the naston.

949
01:12:54,910 --> 01:12:55,390
Put it in there.

950
01:12:55,390 --> 01:12:57,530
I look at trying to restore and save.

951
01:12:58,550 --> 01:13:03,710
This one is probably in the best shape that any of I had in that base book.

952
01:13:03,970 --> 01:13:04,510
All right.

953
01:13:05,270 --> 01:13:05,970
On the inside.

954
01:13:06,530 --> 01:13:11,170
For me to go standing in front of him right here and explain why I'm going to tear down the

955
01:13:11,170 --> 01:13:14,170
Yeah, I'm going to show you how to do it.

956
01:13:17,330 --> 01:13:19,090
I'm good, okay?

957
01:13:19,730 --> 01:13:21,390
I'm just standing in a way that you're like a ball.

958
01:13:21,510 --> 01:13:22,310
It's going to hit me.

959
01:13:22,910 --> 01:13:24,710
Hit me from the HPC.

960
01:13:25,230 --> 01:13:25,950
Good enough.

961
01:13:26,290 --> 01:13:29,430
Try to wrap it up the time limit.

962
01:13:29,850 --> 01:13:31,090
Give up 30 minutes.

963
01:13:31,810 --> 01:13:33,230
That's what we're running on now.

964
01:13:33,390 --> 01:13:35,350
I understand your concept and all.

965
01:13:35,510 --> 01:13:38,810
So if they have specific questions, it's like to ask.

966
01:13:39,750 --> 01:13:50,830
In the lesson, which we'll pat this pat, you know when the outside of Wilson stop where it has, you could show that the worst framed in with bricks and there were two windows that we're going to activate those so you can go back and forth between the two.

967
01:13:56,030 --> 01:14:05,710
Well, you got a concept, something for you to work on, possibly bring it back to us, see what we can do.

968
01:14:05,710 --> 01:14:10,870
If we're like I say it, I want to make sure that all of that rest is here to talk about

969
01:14:15,860 --> 01:14:15,940
it.

970
01:14:15,940 --> 01:14:17,240
I just needed your confidence.

971
01:14:19,980 --> 01:14:22,280
I'd like to say we have to rest is here to talk about it.

972
01:14:22,540 --> 01:14:26,640
That way, you've got plenty of time to marinate on it,

973
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,720
and the quality has time to learn about the project.

974
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,540
I've done these things fast, and I've done these things slow,

975
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,820
and there's peril in doing them fast, to follow them the thought of it.

976
01:14:36,700 --> 01:14:39,980
We want to be transparent, and we want to take a,

977
01:14:39,980 --> 01:14:45,060
We've got any council members who are needed there so we want to take our time.

978
01:14:45,980 --> 01:14:47,860
Dale, thank you very much.

979
01:14:52,390 --> 01:14:55,950
Public comments, the floor for public comments is okay.

980
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,700
Here you're not seeing them, the floor is closed, sorry.

981
01:15:05,260 --> 01:15:08,500
Okay, let's get set up.

982
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,560
Yeah, conference.

983
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:18,220
All right, Pat. Good.

984
01:15:18,980 --> 01:15:21,000
It has been a long meeting, mayor.

985
01:15:21,380 --> 01:15:24,120
Oh, and we do have to go into executive tonight.

986
01:15:24,980 --> 01:15:30,880
The only thing I want to mention of the Christmas lights ever to be

987
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:37,740
park in. It looks wonderful. I don't know if that's public work. I'm not sure who picks

988
01:15:37,740 --> 01:15:44,020
those in. The great job definitely would recommend everybody come drive around. Big

989
01:15:44,020 --> 01:15:52,560
shanny up Sarastrie. See all that go for walk in the deep of park. I mean it is lovely.

990
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,840
That's it, Mayor.

991
01:15:55,540 --> 01:15:56,560
Okay, thank you.

992
01:15:57,340 --> 01:15:57,660
Anything.

993
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,820
I'm happy to keep my comments short this week.

994
01:16:01,060 --> 01:16:02,600
I think I'd like to catch pretty soon.

995
01:16:03,740 --> 01:16:04,100
Tonight?

996
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:08,760
Yeah.

997
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:10,480
Not late.

998
01:16:14,140 --> 01:16:14,780
Keep driving.

999
01:16:15,860 --> 01:16:16,380
All right.

1000
01:16:16,660 --> 01:16:17,440
Don't you.

1001
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:21,180
There if you would just touch on the veterans to event for us.

1002
01:16:22,220 --> 01:16:23,180
It was a great event.

1003
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,840
I would say I would like to, I know it takes some time,

1004
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:28,520
but if we can maybe organize it better, it's a parade.

1005
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,120
And there's not more on your plate.

1006
01:16:31,380 --> 01:16:33,880
I think Mary, that it does a fun job with the parade.

1007
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:37,900
We'll stick the Christmas parade and providing lunch

1008
01:16:37,900 --> 01:16:40,700
because that's something that they don't do.

1009
01:16:41,540 --> 01:16:47,040
The veterans won it less than one in 10 people are veterans.

1010
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,840
And I think to other than the lunch is the least

1011
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:50,600
that we can do.

1012
01:16:51,060 --> 01:16:52,720
And that thing I'll think about too as well, Mary,

1013
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,080
if we can maybe compile the quality of members

1014
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:59,860
I know it was part of the huge test, but here one who's I guess in a very long loss of life a service

1015
01:16:59,860 --> 01:17:03,440
It's area or a survey on each and maybe we can put like their

1016
01:17:04,500 --> 01:17:04,900
pictures

1017
01:17:04,900 --> 01:17:06,600
Day of Schools

1018
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:11,720
What would you call those banners on the high poles and maybe show how like their services and the allowed the

1019
01:17:12,540 --> 01:17:14,000
Who's taking notes?

1020
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:22,080
The allowed the very dispenser maybe one of those banners have something else I was thinking about but it's a great event here

1021
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:28,900
I'm going to talk really slow.

1022
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:34,380
Now I just can't believe it's November 12th and we're like less than a month away from

1023
01:17:34,380 --> 01:17:35,180
Santa Parade.

1024
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:36,480
I am not ready.

1025
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:37,490
10% of the year.

1026
01:17:38,420 --> 01:17:39,380
That's it.

1027
01:17:39,780 --> 01:17:50,220
And remember we have the public comments that we're going to vote on Monday that the continuation

1028
01:17:50,220 --> 01:17:55,940
of the public comments for sessions that will be Monday and it will be a discussion

1029
01:17:55,940 --> 01:17:56,760
for one day.

1030
01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:57,620
Yes, sir.

1031
01:17:57,700 --> 01:17:57,720
Okay.

1032
01:18:00,260 --> 01:18:00,640
All right.

1033
01:18:00,780 --> 01:18:03,680
We're going to go into executive session for the land.

1034
01:18:04,180 --> 01:18:08,780
Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes everything that we have for our public meeting, if

1035
01:18:08,780 --> 01:18:09,920
you decide to stay.

1036
01:18:10,440 --> 01:18:11,100
So we come back.

1037
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:11,740
Thank you.

1038
01:18:12,020 --> 01:18:16,720
If not, tonight, God bless, safe, early home, and we'll see you next week.

1039
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:27,240
Jim has allowed about post-CGA-152 and 154 and pursuant to advice by the city attorney

1040
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:33,120
The purpose of discussing land, all in favor, I

1041
01:25:28,350 --> 01:25:30,830
knew that this body and open session direct the

1042
01:25:30,830 --> 01:25:35,670
presiding officer to execute and happen daily, they could climb to OSUGA at 5144, and that

1043
01:25:35,670 --> 01:25:39,710
this body ratifies the actions of the council taking a closed session, it confirms the subject

1044
01:25:39,710 --> 01:25:44,370
matters of the closed session, where we then, expectations permitted by the open moves law.

1045
01:25:44,370 --> 01:25:45,250
Thank you.

1046
01:25:45,310 --> 01:25:46,130
On favour?

1047
01:25:47,610 --> 01:25:48,530
I'm just kidding.

1048
01:25:48,530 --> 01:25:48,650
I'm just kidding.

1049
01:25:48,650 --> 01:25:50,010
Can I everybody get that?

1050
01:25:50,290 --> 01:25:50,750
Yes sir.

1051
01:25:51,030 --> 01:25:52,150
Can I have a bullet today?

1052
01:25:53,090 --> 01:25:54,190
Neither one of us is me.