1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:19,000 Good morning, everybody. 2 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:28,000 We call this meeting order, committee of the whole meeting for Thursday, November 20, 2025, public information notice. 3 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,000 There are none. 4 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:34,000 I'm glad to acknowledge that call-on concert band will you have. 5 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,000 This is everybody good stand. 6 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Gimegoich to the initial lobby people, to the ancestors and to the spirits who have cared for these lands and waters since time immemorial. 7 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:51,000 We are on our Treaty 3 partners, including our neighbors in Nassachuan, a Nassanabi nation, our hearts go out to you. 8 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,000 I want to take a moment to acknowledge the recent passing of Chief Leraine Copeness. 9 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:02,000 Chief Copeness was a powerful leader, said fast, compassionate and deeply committed to the well-being of her people and all nations within Treaty 3. 10 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:10,000 Her advocacy, her humor, her strength, and her unwavering dedication to community will continue to guide us long after her passing. 11 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:17,000 Council members and staff were honored to attend the memorial alongside an entire region who come together to acknowledge her life in leadership. 12 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:25,000 As we gather here, I recognize that I continue to work with insistence that have not always treated indigenous peoples with respect and equity they deserve. 13 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:31,000 My responsibility is to work every day to not uphold the systems of oppression even while operating inside them. 14 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:39,000 And to use whatever influence I have to push for better, to help build a community where everyone benefits and where reconciliation is lived, not just looking. 15 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:45,000 May the legacy of leaders like Chief Copeness continue to guide us towards that shared future. 16 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:50,000 Thank you very much. 17 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,000 Thank you. 18 00:01:53,000 --> 00:02:02,000 You said about Chief Copeness and I think we're going to begin with a minute of silence. 19 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,000 Thank you very much. 20 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:55,000 Okay, thank you very much. 21 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:01,000 Moving on to the agenda declaration of the key in our interest in the general nature there up. 22 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Any council or wish to declare in our interest. 23 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:11,000 Today's agenda from which a member was not attendance. 24 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:17,000 I don't remember who our confirmation of previous key minutes. 25 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,000 So we have resolution number one. 26 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:37,000 I'll call the vote then I'll always in favor. 27 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,000 I carry thank you. 28 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,000 I don't remember five so we have a full document. 29 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:51,000 I'm assuming the great the didn't work today for the great 12 or 11 coming. 30 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,000 They'll be here school and start to the beer. 31 00:03:55,000 --> 00:04:00,000 Okay, so we are going to have a great 11 12. 32 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:08,000 Law class will be the great. 33 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,000 Excuse me moving on. 34 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,000 The agenda 5.1. 35 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,000 We have great words. 36 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,000 Water, sustainability foundation. 37 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,000 So we have taken it. 38 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Welcome. 39 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,000 Thank you so much Mayor Porea. 40 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,000 Good morning Mayor Council. 41 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,000 The members of the city team. 42 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,000 It's really nice to be here this morning. 43 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,000 Lovely to sit in and listen to that. 44 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,000 Very good opening for this meeting. 45 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,000 It's lovely. 46 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,000 Thank you for doing that. 47 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:46,000 So I'm here today to bring you an update information familiarize you with the lake with the water sustainability foundation. 48 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,000 I'm guessing some of you probably are familiar with the foundation. 49 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,000 It's been around since 2005. 50 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,000 But for those who aren't. 51 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,000 This is just an opportunity to provide an overview of what this organization is. 52 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,000 What we do and to invite you into some of our work. 53 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,000 So I'm the executive director of the foundation. 54 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:11,000 And it's an environmental organization that's based here in Canara and works on the rainy lake of the woods water shed. 55 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,000 Next slide please. 56 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,000 We're a really small team. 57 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:20,000 There are only two members of staff myself and Megan Mills who is our international watershed coordinator. 58 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,000 Meg lives in Winnipeg and Spencer Summers here in the Treaty 3 territory. 59 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,000 So she's not here today. 60 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,000 She's in the city. 61 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,000 But we also have a very active board of directors. 62 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,000 Some of those names may be familiar to you. 63 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,000 Todd Sellers was our past executive director. 64 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,000 Don Konance may be familiar. 65 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,000 He's the Commodore of the Yacht Club. 66 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,000 And then other summer codagers make up our board. 67 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,000 We have a couple of American directors. 68 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,000 The rest are from Canada. 69 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,000 Next slide. 70 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,000 Thanks. 71 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,000 So we have a pretty straightforward vision and mission. 72 00:05:54,000 --> 00:06:03,000 The vision is that we see the lake of the woods basin as a sustainable ecological well-supported region. 73 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:10,000 And we do work that supports the healthy economy and beneficial use of the lake for current and future generations. 74 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:18,000 So the foundation was set up with a mission to try to protect the ecological integrity of lake of the woods. 75 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:28,000 This was primarily in response to what we recognized as much as 20 years ago was a growing concern around harmful and toxic algae blooms and lake of the woods. 76 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:34,000 So that has been kind of one of the focus points for the foundation over the past number of years. 77 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,000 And I'll talk about that a little bit more as we go along. 78 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,000 But we do a lot of other things now too. 79 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,000 So we actually serve as the hub of a network. 80 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,000 At the center of that is our international watershed coordination program. 81 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,000 So I mentioned that Megan is the coordinator. 82 00:06:51,000 --> 00:07:03,000 But our organization functions as this hub of coordination of services projects research advocacy for everyone in the basin who works on water issues. 83 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:08,000 We're probably most well known for our work with the International Joint Commission. 84 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:17,000 We're instrumental in advocating to the governments of Canada and the United States for an expanded mandate for the International Joint Commission in this watershed. 85 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,000 That resulted in the formation of a new watershed board in 2013. 86 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,000 And I sit on that board and share one of its committees. 87 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:32,000 We also were the Secretary for something called the IMA, the International Multi Agency arrangement, which I'll talk about in a moment. 88 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,000 This is a research consort. 89 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,000 Do you want me to just pause and let everybody in? 90 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Okay. 91 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,000 Probably take a little bit to come in. 92 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,000 Just take a couple of minutes. 93 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,000 All right. 94 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,000 I'll carry on. 95 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,000 Welcome, Beaver. 96 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,000 I'm sorry. 97 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:26,000 I just just like to welcome the grade 11 12 law class and beaver. 98 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,000 I hope you. 99 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,000 I don't all along. 100 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,000 You're going to stay but hopefully. 101 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,000 Okay. 102 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:37,000 Well, you'll you'll see some some some action items. 103 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,000 So welcome here and and thanks for attending. 104 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,000 Thank you. 105 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,000 Go ahead. 106 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,000 Okay. 107 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,000 Thanks. 108 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,000 No problem. 109 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,000 Just to catch you all up. 110 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,000 So you know, I'm the executive director of the Lake of the Woods Water Sustainability Foundation. 111 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,000 And I'm just here providing information to Mayor and Council about what our organization does. 112 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,000 So to carry on. 113 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,000 So they at the other functions that we serve. 114 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:04,000 We are the secretary at for the International Multi Agency arrangement. 115 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:10,000 This is a really important table around which all of the government agencies in Canada, the United 116 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:17,000 States, Manitoba, Minnesota, Ontario all gather to be able to provide information to one another 117 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:21,000 to share resources to build projects and collaborative plans. 118 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,000 So we share that and coordinate all of that work. 119 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,000 We also are in liaisons among local groups. 120 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:34,000 So that might be road associations, Lake associations, different environmental advocacy organizations, 121 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,000 and also indigenous nations and communities. 122 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,000 Okay. 123 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Next slide. 124 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,000 So this is the watershed that we work in. 125 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,000 The rainy lake of the Woods Water shed. 126 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,000 It's huge 70,000 square kilometers. 127 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,000 About 60% of it is an Ontario 40% is in Minnesota. 128 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,000 There's a tiny little sliver in Southeastern Manitoba. 129 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,000 The east to west boundary is about 400 kilometers long. 130 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:05,000 There's 600 kilometers of waterways that flow from Elie, Minnesota in the east, 131 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,000 the south east of the watershed. 132 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,000 In a general westward. 133 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Direction through Nama Ken and Rainy Lakes. 134 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,000 Down Rainy River into Lake of the Woods and out through the dams. 135 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,000 Right tunnel island right there in Canara into the Winnipeg River. 136 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,000 Yeah. 137 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,000 Okay. 138 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,000 Next slide. 139 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,000 So our work that we do with the International Joint Commission. 140 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:32,000 So the International Joint Commission is an international organization that was created between 141 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:38,000 the governments of Canada and the United States with a mandate to enforce and implement the 142 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,000 1909 boundary waters treaty. 143 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:45,000 So it has boards across the entire trans boundary between Canada and the U.S. 144 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,000 Wherever there's water that's shared. 145 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:52,000 And their mandate is to maintain the peace between the two countries with respect to water resources 146 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,000 management. 147 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:58,000 So in this watershed, in the Rainy Lake of the Woods, we have the International Rainy Lake of the Woods 148 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,000 Watershed Board. 149 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:06,000 It has a board comprised of 10 Americans, 10 Canadians, there are two co-chairs. 150 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,000 And then we have four working committees of the board. 151 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:15,000 There's the Adaptive Management Committee, a water levels committee that looks after water levels 152 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,000 and flows in NAMIC and Rainy Lakes into Rainy River. 153 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:24,000 There's an in public engagement committee and then the aquatic ecosystem health committee, which I co-chair 154 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:32,000 with my cursed from the Lake of Woods County, soil and water conservation district in Minnesota. 155 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:41,000 We also, the role that the foundation plays with the board is that we provide our international 156 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,000 watershed coordinator as a resource person to the board. 157 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:52,000 So we provide make services to help coordinate any projects that are done through the watershed board. 158 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,000 Okay, next slide. 159 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,000 Did you lose your Zoom connection? 160 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,000 Yeah, it's okay. 161 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,000 So a few minutes ago, I mentioned the IMA. 162 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,000 This is a list. 163 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:08,000 It's all acronyms, so might be kind of inscrutable, but these are all the organizations that are 164 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,000 involved in the international multi-agency arrangement. 165 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:16,000 So there's a work group that's made up of all the managers from the agencies. 166 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,000 So we've environment climate change, Canada, Grand Council Treaty 3. 167 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:25,000 All the soil and water conservation districts at the county level in Minnesota. 168 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:33,000 The provincial ministries of environment, natural resources, fisheries, the US environmental protection agency. 169 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,000 All these big agencies come together in the work group. 170 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:41,000 Canada mandate and work plan for the technical advisory committee, which is all the people who are 171 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,000 the boots on the ground, doing the actual work in the watershed. 172 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,000 And then among those technical advisory committee members, we have three working subgroups. 173 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:57,000 So there's one that focuses on aquatic invasive species, one that works on water quality nutrients and contaminants. 174 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,000 And then a third one that's working on core monitoring. 175 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:09,000 And core monitoring is just like being able to go out in the water and monitor water quality and report on it and analyze that data. 176 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,000 Okay, next slide. 177 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:19,000 So the main reason why I came here today actually was to invite you all to our next international watershed forum. 178 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:25,000 So each year in March the foundation hosts the international rainy lake of the woods watershed forum. 179 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,000 We've been doing this now for this will be the 23rd annual forum. 180 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:34,000 It's hosted in International Falls, Minnesota at the Minnesota North College. 181 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,000 It's typically a two day science symposium. 182 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:44,000 In recent years it's kind of grown to be not just science, but also policy and governance conversations. 183 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:50,000 But we present two days worth of talks from experts who work on water issues in the basin. 184 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:57,000 So these may be scientific talks, they may have to do with governance, they may have to do with traditional indigenous knowledge. 185 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:06,000 It attracts people from all over North America who work on freshwater issues and it's one of the most important freshwater conferences in North America. 186 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:15,000 It typically is attended by about 160 people over the two days and it's it's really interesting it's where a lot of the work to 187 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:20,000 remediate the algae problem in lake of the woods has come from but also many other projects. 188 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:29,000 So I would invite you all to consider attending this year it'll happen March 11th and 12th. 189 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:36,000 We'll be sending out registration information probably later in December and registration will open in the new year. 190 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:44,000 So I would welcome anyone from Canora to attend we haven't had a lot of participation of Canadians in recent years. 191 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:57,000 And although there are some challenges in working internationally these days this is one of those forums that's so critically important to maintain cohesion across the boundary and across the watershed. 192 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,000 It's been a fantastic space and we're. 193 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:11,000 Really glad that we can continue the process here. Okay, next slide. Other things that we offer to the public, we do an annual webinar series. 194 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:18,000 We're right in the middle of it. We've got one coming up tomorrow, in fact, on aquatic invasive species, focusing on zebra muscles. 195 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:24,000 But our asking experts series are just one hour webinars that we offer midday. 196 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:31,000 We record them. They're available on our website so you can go back and watch them again and just learn about freshwater science in our region. 197 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:38,000 This year's lineup is really good. They're really interesting talks, super cool stuff being done here. 198 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:47,000 So I would encourage you to check those out too. Okay, next slide. This is the project that we're working on with the most focus this year and next year. 199 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:57,000 We actually got three years of funding from the federal government through the Canada Water Agency to do a project to develop a phosphorus management plan for the Canadian waters of Lake of the woods. 200 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:06,000 So back in the late 1990s, the Minnesota pollution control agency started looking into this problem of algae. 201 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:16,000 And they determined that the waters of Lake of the woods in the south basin were impaired for nutrients that was leading to utrification algae blooms. 202 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:25,000 That triggered a U.S. environmental protection agency designation of impaired waters and then the state had to respond by doing a comprehensive study and plan. 203 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:31,000 They published their plan in 2021. The Minnesota total maximum daily load study. 204 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:38,000 At the same time Canada started doing science and research on Lake of the woods, but hadn't yet come up with a plan. 205 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:47,000 And so now our organization has been tasked with that planning exercise. So over the last year and a half we've been working with communities and producers. 206 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:57,000 Mostly in the rainy river region to identify sources of nutrient run off and to try to come up with plans for limiting the amount of phosphorus. 207 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:05,000 The nutrient that fuels algae blooms to try to limit that from getting into the water while the lake cleans itself up. 208 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:13,000 So this is what we're responding to. These are algae blooms in Canora in late 2024 is pretty nasty. You all probably remember this. 209 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,000 So we're trying to make that not happen anymore. Okay. Next slide. 210 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:25,000 We have lots of tools that we can use now. Environment and Climate Change Canada has created a satellite imaging tool that we rely on pretty heavily. 211 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:33,000 The E.O. Lake Watch map. You can go online and find this tool and subscribe to and get weekly updates from May to November. 212 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:39,000 And it shows so it's like a heat map of where the blooms are. The more intense the bloom. 213 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:49,000 The darker red the color. So this was the peak of the bloom in 2024. You can see it was quite extensive in the south basin and made it all the way up here to Canora. 214 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,000 So next slide. 215 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:57,000 I'll talk about it in just a sec. So I've got one more slide and then there's a little bit of background. 216 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:05,000 Yes, there's a reason why it's at that end. So this is this year. It was a much less intense bloom year because we had a really severe drought. 217 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:13,000 So when you have a drought, you have less water washing into the watershed and less silt and run off coming in and so there's less to fuel the bloom. 218 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,000 So it was a lower bloom year this year. 219 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,000 Okay. Next slide. 220 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:23,000 So how do we get here? So the reason that the blooms start in the south end is a bit of a complicated story. 221 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:33,000 But basically all this nutrient pollution comes from the legacy of industrial activity on the rainy river in the early 1900s until about 1960. 222 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:41,000 So historically the pulp mills, the paper mills, it sewage all the effluence just got dumped raw into the rainy river. 223 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:49,000 By the 1950s, the rainy river was so polluted that there were 12, 12 foot deep bark mats and mulch mats in the river. It was dying. 224 00:18:49,000 --> 00:19:03,000 So the government's tasked the international joint commission with doing a study that resulted in setting water quality objectives to improve the quality of the water in the rainy river and the formation of a board. 225 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:09,000 So over time the river got cleaned up. The river is now very clean. It's in really good condition. It's recovered. 226 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:16,000 But all that garbage that was in the river flushed down stream into Lake of the woods and is sitting in the south basin of Lake of the woods. 227 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:22,000 The big traverse is a big shallow muddy bay. It's only about 20 to 30 feet deep at the deepest point. 228 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:29,000 And it's really silty on the bottom and so when they flushed all the nutrients down into that basin, it just sits there in the muck. 229 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:37,000 And every year when the ice melts, the wind picks up and big rollers come in and it just churns up all that sediment in the bottom and makes the nutrients be available. 230 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,000 And then you get a bloom because you have lots of nutrient and lots of fertilizer for it. 231 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,000 So the blooms always start in the south end and then they move north. 232 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:52,000 So there is a progression that the lake is slowly flushing. It's flushing at a rate of about 1% per year. 233 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:58,000 So over time it will clean itself up. We need to not add more nutrient to it while it does that. 234 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:07,000 And ideally find ways for there to be removals if we can. But right now the focus is just on limiting the amount of new inflow. 235 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:16,000 So we're doing this study. You've seen this map already of what the watershed looks like but we're mostly focused on that region around rainy river into the south basin. 236 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,000 We can continue. 237 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:23,000 This is just some background in case you have questions about what a phosphorus management plan is. 238 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:30,000 We're basically not dictating anything to anyone. We're working with the community to crowdsource recommendations for actions that 239 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:38,000 Different sectors and user groups can take to try to contribute to reducing the amount of phosphorus in the system. 240 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:43,000 Yeah. I think that's it. So I welcome any questions if anybody has any. 241 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:48,000 And if you don't have any right now, but you think of some later by all means just give me a call or send me an email. 242 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,000 I'm easy to find. 243 00:20:50,000 --> 00:21:14,000 Sure. I'd be happy to do that. It's a bit complicated. I mean we are in the country. 244 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:22,000 Sure. I'd be happy to do that. It's a bit complicated. I mean we are the center of a network. We're a network hub. 245 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:26,000 And so yes, we do work with all of these groups and are integral to all of them. 246 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:35,000 But we're a standalone charitable nonprofit as well. So we, yeah, it's an interesting role to hold for sure. 247 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,000 Thank you. 248 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,000 Okay. Councilor, Madison and then Councilor Bernie. 249 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:47,000 Tickets. There's somewhere that you can phone to report when you see LG glutes. 250 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:52,000 You can. So the watershed board. 251 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,000 It's at the International Rainy Lake of the Woods Watershed Board. 252 00:21:55,000 --> 00:22:00,000 Does have a direct contact function? You can go on their website. 253 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:05,000 There's a form you can fill out. I don't know if there's a phone number but for sure there's an email address. 254 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:11,000 But if you see one, I mean get in touch with me and I will put you in touch with the right agency. 255 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,000 It depends on where it is in the watershed. What the reporting agency would be. 256 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,000 So whether it's Minnesota or Ontario and that sort of thing. 257 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:25,000 But there is not currently a really clear central directory where you would find that information. 258 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,000 But we're working on that. Thank you. 259 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,000 Thank you. 260 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Thank you. 261 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,000 Very interesting. 262 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:38,000 So you said right now I'm just in your notes here that every kilogram of phosphorous is important. 263 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,000 You talked about the southern end. 264 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,000 I grew up down there. I spent 15 years on that in the river. 265 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,000 And I looked very well. 266 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,000 We traveled over a year. 267 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,000 So being able to know this was important. 268 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:54,000 So it's, we've changed within regulations put in place as you mentioned. 269 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:59,000 So what are the, who are the, who are the, who are the, who are the top culprits right now. 270 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:04,000 As far as there was a causes for phosphorus being dumped. 271 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,000 So at this point. 272 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,000 Yeah. 273 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,000 Introduce to the river. 274 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,000 Yeah. 275 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,000 Now that's a great question. 276 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:16,000 And that's sort of one that we grapple with because there isn't necessarily a big culprits. 277 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,000 Now like the culprits was in the past. 278 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,000 We're paying for the legacy. 279 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,000 You know, I guess a, so far as for the majority. 280 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,000 Yeah. 281 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:36,000 The constituencies that we're working with today to try to prevent additional loading would be like, you know, anything that disturbs land. 282 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,000 So any land use development, agriculture and mining. 283 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,000 But those are like the primary drivers of the economy. 284 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,000 So that, of course, is the sectors that we'd be focused on. 285 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,000 Currently, all the permitted facilities are well within compliance limits. 286 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,000 They're all doing really well. 287 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,000 The only time that there's a concern is if we have extreme flooding. 288 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:02,000 And, you know, like if a sewage lagoon's berms get topped by flooding. 289 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,000 That's a concern. 290 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:10,000 So that's something that we might put some recommendations into our plan about how to shore up and build resilience around municipal infrastructure there. 291 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:15,000 One of our, so not in our project, but there's a parallel project that's underway. 292 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:21,000 Working with agricultural producers to optimize their, their nutrient management. 293 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,000 So that when they're putting in tile drainage in the rainy river region. 294 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:31,000 So the rainy river region has, has undergone an agricultural revolution and it's now a lot of crop growing. 295 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,000 So growing corn soybeans and wheat. 296 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:40,000 And so they've put in tile drains, which is like basically giant weeping tile in all the fields. 297 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:46,000 And that that works really well to actually retain phosphorus on the landscape, but it allows nitrogen to flow. 298 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,000 So we're trying to optimize that. 299 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:54,000 And the agricultural producers are fantastic to work with their really open to this. 300 00:24:54,000 --> 00:25:00,000 Because every amount of money that they pour into their fertilizers, they want to get their benefit out of it. 301 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,000 They don't want it washing into the river. 302 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000 So they're really on board. 303 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,000 And then the mining producers, so like new gold, we're working with them as well. 304 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,000 Currently they're perfectly well in compliance. 305 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:19,000 So it's really just if I'm making sure that we have all those permitting systems in place to keep things good while the system recovers. 306 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:25,000 And yeah, it's going to take some time, but the models suggest that you know in 25 years or so. 307 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:31,000 The system should naturally flush provided it's not under additional stresses. 308 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:41,000 Which is the real big kicker because unfortunately a changing climate is adding a lot of stress to the system and exacerbating the nutrient and algae bloom problem. 309 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,000 So. 310 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,000 So. 311 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,000 So aside from those factors, you talk about what about development. 312 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:53,000 What about the human just sort of casual, you know, people that have the camps on the lake and development? 313 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:58,000 Yeah, I mean ideally we want to see anyone who's building. 314 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,000 Any kind of new infrastructure on the lake having appropriate. 315 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:07,000 Management for sediments and runoff any kind of sewage systems. 316 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:14,000 So ideally property owners that that are next to waterways are maintaining their septic systems well. 317 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,000 That's an issue that we're starting to look into a little bit. 318 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:25,000 We don't have a lot of say on that, but we can try to advise some of the regulators around that. 319 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:30,000 Yeah, I mean those are all small contributions, but they add up. 320 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,000 So everyone's got a part to play. 321 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,000 Thank you. 322 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,000 Yes. 323 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,000 Any other questions for Tika? 324 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,000 No. 325 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,000 Thank you very much. 326 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,000 Okay, thank you so much. 327 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,000 Okay, thank you so much. 328 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,000 Thank you. 329 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,000 Moving on to agenda 5.2. 330 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,000 We have Tim, consulting. 331 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,000 So he's going to present housing needs assessment. 332 00:26:52,000 --> 00:27:07,000 So I'm going to hand it over to space gander, cocao to introduce him. 333 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,000 Thank you very much, Mayor. 334 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,000 Just confirming that everybody's there. 335 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,000 Thank you. 336 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:57,000 Okay. 337 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,000 Teacher taking you guys to Tim Horton, is there any W after? 338 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,000 I hope so. 339 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,000 What's the field trip with us in fast food? 340 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:15,000 Thank you. 341 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,000 So I'll get us going here. 342 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,000 Thank you very much. 343 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,000 Very happy to introduce to council and the public. 344 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,000 The team from Tim Welsh consulting. 345 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:34,000 Have been working with Tim and Fraser and Braden for nine months now on what we're calling our housing need assessment project. 346 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:47,000 The reason that this data is important to us is that when the city does applications for funding and when developers want to develop are going to finance financial institutions for lending. 347 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:58,000 It's very difficult for us to get the successful applications or for them to get the financing without the appropriate data and we come to learn that the data that we had in canora was flawed. 348 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:06,000 So we've been working with Tim Welsh consulting in terms of trying to understand what our current need for housing in canora is today. 349 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,000 And we are now there. 350 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,000 We have that data. 351 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:18,000 So really happy to turn it over to Tim and Fraser and Braden to walk us through the findings of their last nine months working with the city of canora. 352 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,000 Thank you so much. 353 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:25,000 Just want to confirm you can still hear me and I'm going to share my screen because we have been disconnected there for a second. 354 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,000 Yes, we can. 355 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,000 Okay, and you can see the presentation on the screen there. 356 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,000 Yes, we can. 357 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,000 Perfect, thank you so much. 358 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,000 So good morning everyone. 359 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,000 Mayor, Mr. Memory Council. 360 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,000 My name is Fraser Fathers. 361 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:47,000 I'm a senior housing policy consultant with TWC on the call as well as Braden who's a housing consultant with us and then obviously Tim Welsh the Tim Welsh. 362 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:52,000 Tim Welsh consulting who is the principal consultant with TWC. 363 00:29:52,000 --> 00:30:00,000 And as states were sort of saying we've been working with the city of Canora and it's been a pleasure to work with the city staff for the last nine months on this housing need assessment. 364 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,800 And so we're going to give you really a crash course on the housing needs assessment and what it is and and sort of high level for you today, accompanying this presentation is over a hundred pages of research and data supporting, you know, background research and support to support the city of Canora moving forward nest, they sort of outlined CMHC and federal programs are now requiring you many cases, a completed housing needs assessment to qualify for a range of funding with those are grants or preferred and 365 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:59,800 incentives various other funding streams. And the in H&A is often becoming a requirement for non-profit and even private developers looking to receive government government financing or other supports through from CMHC or other government agencies and it's quite likely for the new build Canada homes will also require some sort of housing related information as well and the H&A explores a full range of housing needs from not just affordable housing but along the entire 366 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:29,760 spectrum of housing to from affordable to attainable to supportive but also, you know, what the average market home and even luxury homes in some cases in some communities would look like in a particular community. And a challenge that we find in our work with smaller communities is that there's often gaps in the data from us both from a local perspective, but also from the federal government perspective. CMHC for example has trouble collecting data and smaller communities and even the census has some gaps in data. 367 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:59,280 In smaller communities, particularly over time. So very briefly, the process that we went through over the last nine months obviously TWC was retained to engage in research and engage in the community around the current state of housing needs and tomorrow and after a plot city staff, we worked really hard together to make sure that we got a robust sample of a feedback from the city of Canara and from residents and businesses. So a pair of surveys were launched back in the summer, which city staff did a great heavy lift on getting the word out. 368 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:15,280 To the community and ensuring that we had over 700 residents respond to the survey and over 77 businesses complete a separate business survey as well and there are appendices to the full H&A that really provide high level summaries of that engagement process. 369 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:30,280 We also did focus groups and individual interviews of 15 local businesses, realtors, community and public sector organizations to get really digging on like what how is housing impacting your organization or the housing needs in Canara impacting your organization. 370 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:44,280 And so what that really gave us is a robust set of data that really helped provide the local context, the local what, how and why of what's happening in Canara that we could then pair up against the broader census and CMHC data. 371 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:55,280 So the next few slides are going to walk through some of the findings at a very high level as I mentioned there is over 100 pages in the H&A itself. 372 00:32:55,280 --> 00:33:00,280 We also have a summative report that really distills that down to approximately 20 pages. 373 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:10,280 We're happy to answer those questions on any of these elements at the end of the presentation, but we just want to sort of walk through the high level findings and these findings really build off of one another. 374 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:21,280 So keep in mind as we're sort of walking through this that sort of building block they all add up to sort of where we get to in the conclusion of the H&A and we start with the city of Canara's population. 375 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:38,280 And you can see on the graph there sort of highlighting the trend lines for the city there was economic transition from 2001 through 2016 in Canara and the 2021 census found just under 15,000 people about 14,967 folks living in Canara. 376 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:48,280 The population estimate since the census had been showing some robust growth in the community and that's an important thing to consider in the broader community context. 377 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:54,280 A couple other facts that we should just highlight as well as you have an average of about 2.2 people per household. 378 00:33:54,280 --> 00:34:00,280 So in a given household you have about 2.2 people which isn't that far outside the provincial average. 379 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:09,280 You have about 21% of the population in Canara was seniors of the time of the census which is slightly above the average in Ontario at 18.5%. 380 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:17,280 And Canara is home to a significant indigenous population, whether those are first nations, matey or in you it. 381 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:26,280 With almost a quarter of the population self-addenifying that with that ancestry and that compares only about 3% in the broader province. 382 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:34,280 So certainly a diverse community and you know that brings with it its own challenges from a housing perspective in some cases. 383 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:44,280 And what we want to point out here is you know there's some data missing from the general population projections and general population data from the census. 384 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:54,280 One thing that we like to look at is province why there was actually about a 3% just under a 4% under count in the population from the census. 385 00:34:54,280 --> 00:35:01,280 So the census obviously engage you know they weren't able to get to 3.7 3.8% of the households around the province. 386 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:09,280 And so if we apply that value to Canara your actual population is probably closer to 1515,500 at the time of the census. 387 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:17,280 And the rural and northern communities generally have a larger or higher under count rate because it's just harder to get to places where people are for the census. 388 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,280 So something to keep in mind going forward. 389 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:32,280 You know Canara is also home to a significant seasonality in its population levels knowing that you know I'm talking with city staffing under population seems to swell almost 30,000 people in the summer. 390 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,280 That's not captured in the census. 391 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:44,280 The impacts of the surrounding indigenous communities and reserves as well as the unincorporated areas also because of Canara operates as a hub for those communities. 392 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:52,280 You actually have a larger service footprint than your community may actually represent from a population perspective that's not captured anywhere. 393 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:57,280 And then obviously there's been recent growth in temporary foreign worker usage in Canara and seasonal employment. 394 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:12,280 And so what that means is that you have a municipality that's servicing a larger population than it's actual population is sort of sort of indicating you have demand for social services and related employment as a result of that. 395 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:21,280 And the potential under counts mean that just looking at the raw data may not tell the full story around housing demand in Canara. 396 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:31,280 So as we move forward we look at the types of housing in Canara yet about at the time of the census you know 7,600 or so units of housing in Canara. 397 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:36,280 But what we quickly found digging into the data was only about 6,500 of those are regularly inhabited. 398 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:41,280 And working with city staff we were able to identify hundreds of cabins, cottages, etc. 399 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:55,280 That you know during the summer certainly inhabited I'm sure but are not regularly inhabited year around and so part of that means that you have this proportion of housing where again from the federal government perspective and from looking at you know the raw data. 400 00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:02,280 You have more housing than necessarily these inhabited in your community year round and so it creates a disconnect in the data. 401 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:10,280 As you can see by the percentages there about 77% of your homes or dwellings are detached homes, that's actually far higher than the rest of Northern Ontario. 402 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:17,280 Thunder Bay comes in at 68.8% suicide 606.8 and Sudbury at 61.4. 403 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:26,280 Some of those are those cottages and seasonal dwellings being counted in there but what it also shows us a lack of diversity in housing in the community. 404 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:32,280 And that can create challenges you know for folks trying to find certain kinds of housing in a particular point in time. 405 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:39,280 Another element is the 14 or 15% of the housing that is in the form of apartments both low and high rises. 406 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:44,280 A significant portion of that is actually operated by the Canara District Service Board. 407 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:55,280 This isn't a bad thing having you know supportive and affordable housing is needed but what it means is that there's less market housing of that type in your community than it is actually represented in the data. 408 00:37:55,280 --> 00:38:04,280 And what that means is that it's hard to find that apartment for that young person who's moved out because there's actually a smaller share of rental market apartments there. 409 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:13,280 We've also identified a trend of sort of a portion of housing units moving out of the long-term rental market and into that short-term seasonal rental market in Canara. 410 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,280 And that's also creating pressures on the overall housing market. 411 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,280 The other thing that we also found through this project is there are data gaps in Canara. 412 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:27,280 So CMHC has a number of years of data where the responses to their rental market survey as well. 413 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:33,280 Some of their other data sets are not as reliable due to small sample sizes from response rate challenges in Canara. 414 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:46,280 And then also you know organizations like for example, due to the small size, Canara doesn't have for example a robust real estate board that publishes regular updates on sort of the home sale data and market data in that regard as well. 415 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:52,280 So what it means is obviously there's a lack of diversity in some housing supply in Canara. 416 00:38:52,280 --> 00:39:02,280 And also there's a number of infrastructure, number of barriers to building new housing in Canara, whether it's infrastructure needs challenges and costs of just building on the Canadian Shiro shield. 417 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:12,280 And then once those housing units are built, ensuring that they stay in sort of that long-term rental market or long-term, you know, family market is a challenge in the community as well. 418 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:17,280 And the inability to diversify housing supplies creating barriers to household formation and employment. 419 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:23,280 And we'll build on this in a second, but what that really means is that because you don't have certain kinds of housing, 420 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:33,280 it's making it challenging to attract the right talent or for folks who are in the community who want to live in certain kinds of housing to find the housing that they need. 421 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:43,280 As a result of that, you know, again, we've highlighted that Canara is a service hub and employment hub for a large reason region and requires the capacities to support those services. 422 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:52,280 But you also have some, you know, unique that fastest Shiro economy, the seasonality of your economy creates some housing challenges and that you're bringing folks in for the summer months. 423 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,280 And then they're not necessarily staying through the winter months as well. 424 00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:04,280 You also have a smaller, and this is common for many sort of small mid-sized communities, a lower proportion of self-employment in your community. 425 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:10,280 Partially just due to the makeup of your local economy and the challenges that that can accompany with it. 426 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:18,280 But what we also found within the data is a gap in incomes between tenants and renters. 427 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:23,280 Canara added individual level actually performs quite well from an income perspective. 428 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:29,280 You're above provincial medians, but when we look at a household level, so sort of grouping folks together, 429 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:34,280 Canara performs about three to four thousand dollars less than provincial averages. 430 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:42,280 And within within that sort of when you compare tenants to homeowners, you can see a significant gap in the median incomes, 431 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,280 which is showing a growing inequality. 432 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:50,280 The ability to jump from being a tenants to a homeowner is becoming a challenging canara from an income perspective. 433 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:56,280 And this is playing out across Ontario, but those gaps there are significant. 434 00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:08,280 And through our consultation, we also identified numerous employers who are unable to find a future housing and it's creating barriers to local economic and employment opportunities. 435 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:16,280 And over 130 jobs were identified as going unfilled at the time of our engagement in Canara due to housing issues. 436 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:25,280 So your regional hub, you know, the hub of your part of Ontario, that creates specific demands for your community. 437 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:34,280 And as a result of that, you know, because the housing is in a line to meet those demands, it's creating gaps in your local employment and economic environment. 438 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:47,280 And with expected growth coming from, you know, things like the hospital plans, additional housing demands are likely going to be coming as you move forward. 439 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:54,280 And then what where that leads though is into the space of core housing need, core housing need is made up of three elements. 440 00:41:54,280 --> 00:42:01,280 It's whether or not housing is affordable based on being less costing less than 30% of your before tax household income. 441 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:09,280 Whether housing is considered to be adequate, meaning, in other words, it doesn't require major repairs and canor before is actually quite well in that standard. 442 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:14,280 And then whether or not the housing is suitable, you have enough bedrooms for the folks in the house. 443 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:19,280 At the time of the census, about four hundred and fifteen households were in housing need in Canara. 444 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:26,280 That number is actually likely under representing the current situation as COVID supports were in place of the time of the census. 445 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:32,280 And that was income support that were helping offset some of the affordability pressures facing folks in the community. 446 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:41,280 And since then, obviously, we've seen inflation in both a rental and homesuit and sort of home construction cost in Canara. 447 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:49,280 The 2024 point in time count from the Canara District Service Board also identified affordability being a major challenge. 448 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:57,280 Certainly 28% of respondents said that the income was too low and 21% of respondents said the rents were too high. 449 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:06,280 More or less of those are the same side of the different sides of the same coin, where in essence you had about half of the respondents who have the point in time kind saying, 450 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:11,280 some sort of income issue was preventing them from finding adequate housing. 451 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:19,280 And the Canara District Service Board does have new units planned to support poor housing even those at the lower end of the housing spectrum. 452 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,280 But funding needs to be secured. 453 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:26,280 And hopefully his H&A will help back stop some of those funding requests moving forward. 454 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:34,280 But what it means is that, you know, the cost and lack of supply is a major driver of housing risk in Canara right now. 455 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:41,280 There's a number of strategies being implemented, but they still require time and energy to move forward and resources to move forward. 456 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:50,280 And obviously, as a regional service hub for economic and social services, you're attracting folks to the region to so they can access those services and supports. 457 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:57,280 And that leads you to a position where you have extraordinary demand in your community and supply is a major challenge. 458 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:07,280 And so this slide is sort of the culmination of a work and we work with states and his team over a long period of time to really build out this modeling. 459 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,280 And this is an estimate of future housing demand. 460 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:16,280 And again, refreshing briefly, your current total housing stock is about 7600 units. 461 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:25,280 And with a range of major infrastructure and economic development projects forthcoming, you know, we're expecting significant demand both in the short term, 462 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,280 with construction workers, etc. 463 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,280 But then permanent employment won't those projects are completed. 464 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,280 Now, I'm going to walk through the table in detail in a second. 465 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:42,280 But within the full H&A, CMHC uses a relatively straightforward methodology to estimate future housing demand. 466 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:50,280 And based on theirs, their methodology, you work out to about 867 additional units being needed by 2031. 467 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:55,280 Now, the methodology is sound, but it misses pieces of the puzzle. 468 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,280 It doesn't account for economic development, economic growth. 469 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,280 It doesn't account for, for example. 470 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,000 Some of the undercounts and things like that that we've talked about through this presentation and through the H&A. 471 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:11,000 And so what we did was we went and tried to build a more robust model that took into account some of these things. 472 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:17,000 And what I would say is the table on the right represents maybe a more outlier scenario of that model. 473 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,000 I'll explain what that means in a moment. 474 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:27,000 But what it does sort of share is sort of like at the far end of the spectrum what an extreme scenario may be from a housing demand perspective. 475 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:36,000 So to walk through the table in 2025 some of these rows obviously we mentioned that population undercount from the 2021 census. 476 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:45,000 So if that undercount holds true it means that there's about 126 units or households that are on account of four in the community that you have to account for. 477 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:54,000 Then we've had population growth which has been catalogued by statistics Canada through their population estimates all the way from 2024 and then leveraging. 478 00:45:54,000 --> 00:46:05,000 The same population modeling that is being used for your official plan we estimate you know 2025 there's about an additional 159 households that are in Canora that weren't there at the time of the census. 479 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:11,000 Then we have suppressed household formation and this is what this is in essence again a measure of. 480 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:19,000 Folks who want to be create their own household units but are unable to and to give you a couple of tangible examples. 481 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:29,000 Let's say that there is a student who has just moved home to their parents after completing post-secondary education they found found a job in Canora and they loved to move out of their house. 482 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:39,000 I think we've all been there at some point really what they're unable to do unfortunately is actually move out because of high rents or lack of supply. 483 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:51,000 In the community and so that's a suppressed household another example may be a senior who's looking to downsize from a single family home to say an apartment or condo that's more livable. 484 00:46:51,000 --> 00:47:08,000 While they're unable to downsize to that apartment and condo due to lack of supply it also creates a bottleneck because there's another household who can't move into their single family home because the senior has an inadequate form of housing that they want to access. 485 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:24,000 And so this modeling is leveraging the heart model which is again also integrated into the H&A and again there's about 362 households would like to change their housing estimated within the city of Canora but they can't do to supply. 486 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:32,000 We obviously heard from employers of approximately 130 current jobs or employment missing in the community due to lack of housing. 487 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:40,000 So in other words if there's 130 new units they would bring in 130 new people or households into the community and fill those vacancies. 488 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:50,000 And then there's housing demand induced by major projects and job growth and this was our collaboration between ourselves and city staff around well what are the projects in the pipeline are currently happening. 489 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:57,000 And what is the employment demand going to be created by those jobs by those projects and that job growth and you see this year. 490 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:15,000 It's a modest amount but you can see as the years go by and frankly as the hospital construction and project moves forward you're going to see significant demand growth in those from that sort of part of the housing spectrum and that folks coming to Canora to work on these projects and they're going to need to be housed. 491 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:31,000 That leads you us to a market and population housing gap and you can see currently it's about 812 and you can see how that is going to change over time and as you get to 2030 and 2031 you're almost double what the H&A estimates there. 492 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:41,000 And then we layer on top of that the current Canora district service board housing gap and they have a wait list of approximately 800 individuals hoping to get into affordable or some sort of support of housing. 493 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:56,000 And again if you were to layer that on top of that and want to tackle that as well you can see where the numbers get to there with almost about 1600 units being needed currently that number growing to about just under 2500 units by 2031. 494 00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:09,000 Now this as I mentioned is probably in outliers scenario we are not accounting for things like you know as you can see we have a straight line estimate of employment shortage based on our engagement results likely that fluctuates year to year. 495 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:25,000 It also doesn't account for for example we assume that every new worker who comes to town requires their own individual unit of housing that's likely not true in many cases you may get a situation when the hospitals built for example you recruited doctor and his partner his or her partner comes to the community as well. 496 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:35,000 And also feels one of those vacant employment positions so you in essence have one household feeling two jobs and so even if this estimate is. 497 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:48,000 You know we're more robust than necessarily needed it is giving you sort of an outliers scenario where the likely you're likely need is going to fall somewhere between the CMA C estimate and the high end of this scenario. 498 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:53,000 And that gives you a sort of an idea of the scope of challenge that you sort of need in the community. 499 00:49:53,000 --> 00:50:03,000 To an essence try and restore affordability and restore housing supply to a place where you have affordable and accessible housing across the spectrum. 500 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:13,000 And so to achieve this end the municipality and the folks at the city there have identified 13 actions and many of these are sort of underway already. 501 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:28,000 But also our process moving forward and we'll be sort of key elements moving forward to help tackle the housing need across the community and these range from obviously there's an official plan and zoning by law work underway already. 502 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:35,000 Developing a master infrastructure plan move you know the collaboration on the new all nations health care partners and the. 503 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:49,000 Knore chief advisory to finalize you know the developments related those projects all the way to efficient you know increasing efficiency around you know getting building and planning permits done faster examining modular building practices. 504 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,000 And implementing clear planning and development guidelines. 505 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:59,000 So there's a range of actions that the city staff have already sort of identified as a starting point that help move towards achieving those goals. 506 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,000 But you know there are significant steps moving forward. 507 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:10,000 So in about 10 minutes there I think I rattle through about the equivalent of 125 pages worth of data. 508 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:15,000 I'm happy to you know stop sharing my screen or go back to a specific slide. 509 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:22,000 If any members of council or the mayor have any questions and we're happy to feel those questions at the appropriate time. 510 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,000 Thank you Fraser. 511 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,000 So we do have a question one so far from council. 512 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,000 Ben Balina. 513 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,000 So. 514 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,000 Take it away. 515 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,000 Thank you. 516 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:44,000 Well we have some noticeable gaps I would highly the probably some of these are self induced due to past practice sort of highlighting around you know are higher than average single. 517 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:54,000 Family home statistics and then some of our gaps in our official plan and our zoning bylaws that obviously are are really need of updating. 518 00:51:54,000 --> 00:52:02,000 Are there communities in Ontario maybe in our population size that you see doing this well. 519 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:07,000 Like meeting the housing needs. 520 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,000 So I'll start and then I think 10 may jump in as well. 521 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:15,000 There are but every community first has their own unique challenges. 522 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:20,000 So it's kind of like you know it's not comparing apples to oranges but it's like comparing different flavors of apples. 523 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:25,000 You know some communities are granny Smith versus red delicious versus honey crisp there. 524 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:32,000 So certainly there are some you know I think of you know for example community we've done work with like sagging shores for example. 525 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:43,000 Where they've gone and done work around and TWC supported this work around doing pre approved designs for additional dwelling units and other sort of. 526 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:51,000 You know do plus triplex quadplex development in their community where the town actually has put free to access. 527 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:59,000 You know designs publicly available where any developer can just sort of go and say I'm going to build the quadplex and it can lead to a fast track. 528 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:04,000 Through the planning and zoning process through the permitting process and things like that. 529 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:12,000 So the specific needs and I think the 13 actions that were identified by city staff are really going to help fill some of those gaps that you identified it in the. 530 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:18,000 You know official plan and zoning bylaw and then you know really there's a question there of. 531 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:26,000 What levers does council want to pull around innovation and trying new things so the idea around modular homes is certainly interesting. 532 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:38,000 You know giving that you're a northern community more northern community you know building costs are high in some cases so there's opportunity there but I think it's really going to be about you know. 533 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:53,000 There's so many levers you could pull really narrowing focus on one or two that council really wants to get behind and then moving that needle trying to move that needle through one or two of those actions in a rapid manner. 534 00:53:54,000 --> 00:54:07,000 Yeah, just if I can just elaborate just slightly that actually in Bruce County yesterday we're saw again shores is. 535 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:15,000 And they've got a lot of growth in terms of workforce housing because of the the Bruce nuclear refurbishments that are going on right now. 536 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,000 It's a community that has. 537 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:30,000 So again shores is not as very similar population at 19,000 but there's been I think they're a really good coordination between the county just the service manager like your de-sab is your service manager. 538 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:42,000 And the area municipalities setting out in some cases incentives or go tax incentive grants for new rental housing a range of rental housing. 539 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:54,000 And as well as any forgiveness of municipal fees etc. trying to lay trying to be as welcoming as possible for new affordable housing but the other thing they are looking at. 540 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:59,000 And as we work towards the new federal program of built Canada homes. 541 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:13,000 is to have a coordinate response so for this city can or we're very closely with the D-sab and say here are two or three or four or five projects it sounds like the federal government right now is working towards a larger scale. 542 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:18,000 So if there can be work over the next number of months identifying and I know. 543 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:27,000 The base is a good context with with certainly private sector developers looking to do private market rental housing. 544 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,000 But also to see about. 545 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,000 Trying to have that range of housing so people who are. 546 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:42,000 My bad registered nursing assistant or early at the hospital or daycare workers etc. who make a little bit of bubble minimum wage but not high enough to afford full market rent. 547 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:52,000 Trying to have both set the table locally having the coordination with the service manager with the D-sab and trying to build a collaborative case. 548 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:59,000 To prepare for the new build Canada homes initiative. 549 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:04,000 Thank you. 550 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:13,000 So you've given us all this information. 551 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:23,000 Is canor doing enough is it halfway there do we have 90% changes we have to make where we. 552 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:33,000 So canor like the H&A is the start of a journey I would say and this is what I say to a lot of communities and that this is sort of laid the groundwork I think you know and I may. 553 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:40,000 You asked staff to weigh in a little bit on this because they know more of the local context of specifically what the municipalities doing. 554 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:49,000 But certainly those 13 steps if you're going to move through that list and accomplish many of those those would be sort of your major goals in the short term. 555 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:57,000 To try and move those forward and then if hopefully if those are achieved it will help unlock housing supply in the community. 556 00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:21,000 You have a number of pathways whether that is market or affordable or attainable or pre-fab or what what have you so I do think canor is on the right track I wouldn't want to put a certain percentage on it just because again what's happening you know in the community varies day to day and maybe staff wants to weigh on in on that. 557 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:25,000 The comment or question of would you take the trip. 558 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:29,000 Okay. Thank you. Yeah it's merporier. 559 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:34,000 So the other day I saw in the news. 560 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:50,000 They were talking about I think I think it was in relation to Toronto Vancouver some of the larger centers where they've realized now they've missed the boat on what type of housing they build. 561 00:57:50,000 --> 00:58:05,000 Because people say we should have another like we have a development was called silk park and that it took 20 years to fill and there's 75 watts maybe. 562 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:19,000 The reality is most people and today aren't going to spend a north of a million dollars and then some to and it'll be out of minimum of that to build like a bundle and that. 563 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:43,000 And are we missing the middle because that's what they talked about in this report they said developers and governments miss the boat completely and built these huge homes which are fine for some people but the majority of people can't afford like north of a million dollars. 564 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:53,000 But they can afford that you know 400 like I always said we should have townhouses like built in clusters you know days full nights once. 565 00:58:53,000 --> 00:59:02,000 And and encouraged development of those instead of you know I look at what 77% of. 566 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:18,000 I think we need to be coming more into the center and that because we talk a lot about housing and we have studies and like we've I've been around long enough to see all like a stack of studies. 567 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:23,000 But we haven't done anything in the last 20 years here we've done stuff on the social. 568 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:39,000 Social housing piece but like that's not going to bring in a nurse or a doctor whatever I'm sorry and it's not a slight again social housing but we need to start focusing on. 569 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:48,000 You know private sector development and where they get their money is we can help them and you know be part of that. 570 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:54,000 But we need to start building houses for people that are going to be here over the next four or five years. 571 00:59:54,000 --> 01:00:01,000 That will be making enough money in that to pay market rent or to buy. 572 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:12,000 Something, if they're going to be here three, four, or five years in a construction project. So I was just wondering, does that make sense going forward? 573 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:23,000 You know, I always said, like I would buy other housing in this community as an investment, not at a million two for a bungalow, forget it. There's no money in that. 574 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:30,000 But I would buy four hundred or four hundred fifty thousand dollar townhouse and rent it until such time that I would use it. 575 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:39,000 And I know many other people that would feel that would be a good investment, which would help spur on housing needs. 576 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:52,000 So I'm just wondering if you feel that maybe we're, are we kind of just in the discussions you have with stays so far, are we kind of going in that direction or are we going in the wrong direction? 577 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:56,000 Because we need to change course very quickly if we are. 578 01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:04,000 Yeah, thank you. So I think this report identifies that gap is that missing middle in a lot of ways in your community. 579 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:18,000 You know, the 77% you know, sort of highlights that certainly I would say, you know, part of the biggest challenge around getting some of those units built is just the cost of construction, right, which is beyond the control of the municipality in a lot of cases. 580 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:28,000 And so finding ways to support, you know, a developer or builder to get those construction class lower, whether that's your modular or through some sort of partnership. 581 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:32,000 You know, is a pathway that the city could explore certainly. 582 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:37,000 I do think, you know, and again, using the soggy ensures example, they found a similar sort of challenge, right? 583 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:55,000 And that, and that's why they created pre-approved plans for four plexus and three plexus and do plexus and 80 use to sort of add that gentle density in that missing middle to their community, which is, again, largely a single family community home style community in Bruce County. 584 01:01:55,000 --> 01:02:04,000 So certainly, I think there's opportunity there, whether you can get the construction costs and all the costs down to $400 or $500,000 in your particular community. 585 01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:10,000 That's probably going to be a challenge, but I think just you're going to need a range of housing to get out of this. 586 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:20,000 So some of this will need to be apartment buildings that are, you know, market rent, but they're nice enough that someone will want to, you know, live there for five to seven years. 587 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:27,000 And have enough money in the bank that they can save to then put the down payment on a single family home when they're ready to move forward that. 588 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:33,000 And that's what that household suppression sort of line in the estimates there is really talking about. 589 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:38,000 It's about those folks who may be who are living in canor or are in canor now. 590 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:45,000 I would like some other form of housing, whether that's a young person who, you know, wants to get out or it's a senior who wants to downsize. 591 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:50,000 So ensuring that there is that spectrum of housing is certainly an important step. 592 01:02:50,000 --> 01:03:00,000 And just to two things, one, having the housing need assessment data, the good work that that Fraser and very into pull together is a really important part. 593 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:05,000 And I know we've had discussions with staff in terms of a private sector, a rental builder. 594 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:10,000 CMHC had been a little bit reluctant because they didn't have a good handle on the data. 595 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:28,000 So we are hoping that the work that that our firm has done will give you that tool as a municipality to say, yes, here's the reality, the market need CMHC in this case, provide the mortgage financing for the market rental. 596 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:36,000 The other come out make terms of trying to help that middle level is are there any other municipal lands. 597 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:45,000 This is a strategy many municipalities have brought in more recently other municipal lands that can be available made available for moderate income households. 598 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:57,000 There's, there's a number of examples, there's just one release last night from town of Midland in southern Georgia Bay, looking for a mixture of housing. 599 01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:10,000 So you know, are those, I know that land is is challenging to come by, but are there any sites that could be made available for that mid level housing firm. 600 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:17,000 Thank you. Any other questions? 601 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:22,000 Maybe I'll, yeah, I'll just say thanks very much. 602 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:33,000 Again, just picking up on this whole missile missing middle thing, if you look at the three developers that have been trying to get projects off the ground in canora in the last couple of years. 603 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:49,000 In each case, they didn't have the data that they needed to support a good conversation with CMHC. So this is a critical building block going forward and when you look at our pipeline, these are the, you know, our, our highest opportunity in the next three years. 604 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:59,000 And when you start thinking about the hospital coming online and the construction workers and all those other things, and you see this big blip in terms of the demand curve, it's going to take that long to build these sorts of things. 605 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:18,000 So now we have this foundational piece, we're now we can start having different conversations with not only developers, but the funding agencies to support projects in a timely fashion. So this is great. And I want to thank Tim Walsh and as team Fraser amazing work and Braden, so thanks very much for your support through this project. 606 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,000 Happy to. 607 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,000 Thanks. 608 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,000 Thank you very much. 609 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,000 Lots of good information. 610 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:37,000 Just a follow up comment, not next week, I'm actually in Ottawa meeting with the parliamentary assistant to the federal housing and infrastructure. 611 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:47,000 And I can see pieces in here that I'm going to use as part of my speaking notes to, because we need to go right to the source now and not like we can. 612 01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:55,000 We need to move the needle quicker than we are and that's the only way we're going to get something happening. 613 01:05:55,000 --> 01:06:14,000 And we've even invited them down into the region, some of the even if it's staff to see what we're up against, like geographically, rock, water, all that stuff, they don't always understand that. 614 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:19,000 But they always come back and say, well, like, what's your housing needs? 615 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:39,000 So right now we have it. So hopefully this will go along way next week when we, because we have an hour with this individual, not the minister himself, he's not available, but parliamentary assistant and policy staff and staff of his office. 616 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:47,000 To talk about this and move it forward in relation to some of the projects in the community. 617 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:50,000 And I think that that's that's great. 618 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:57,000 It does give you a tool and I just say that I think we are seeing overall both at the provincial and federal level. 619 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,000 We. 620 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:14,000 Feeling of there's going to be growth throughout northern Ontario, in terms of the the mining sector particular across northern Ontario and there seems to be recognition of that is a really important part of Canada Ontario's growth. 621 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:22,000 And just making sure they make the connection to having the housing for that workforce and the growth that's going to occur in northern Ontario that. 622 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:23,000 So we've drawn a Vancouver, etc. 623 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:38,000 The large cities have lots of housing pressures, but to make sure that part of the bill Canada homes initiative lines up with all the other resource sector initiatives that the feds and the province are pushing. 624 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,000 Great. 625 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:42,000 Thank you. 626 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:46,000 So one last any other follow questions. 627 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:58,000 Okay, well thank you very much then for your time and look forward to using this document to in a positive way to solve some of our housing needs. 628 01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,000 So thank you. 629 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,000 Thank you very much. 630 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,000 Okay. 631 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:11,000 Are they ready in the are they in the queue? 632 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:12,000 Okay. 633 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:20,000 So moving on the agenda 5.3 we have another presentation associated engineering capital meets assessment presentation. 634 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,000 Would you like to start. 635 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:23,000 Director Green. 636 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,000 Yeah, thank you your worship. 637 01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:35,000 So just a quick recap for council, you know, when I when I first came to the community in early 2023 and started touring the cities infrastructure. 638 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:47,000 Definitely identified that the city's water treatment plants and wastewater treatment plants needed some love they haven't got any and quite a few years and the time was coming and so. 639 01:08:47,000 --> 01:09:04,000 When you look at all of the individual components that make up a water treatment plant or wastewater treatment plant there are hundreds and hundreds of assets pieces of equipment piping components electrical systems that all work together to deliver safe drinking water to the community. 640 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:28,000 You process the the sewage coming out of the community and protect like we heard from earlier the surrounding watershed and so we we partnered with associated engineering in 2024 and been working closely with them for the last 18 months to develop a roadmap to rehabilitate both of those plants over the next 25 years and I'd like to introduce. 641 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,000 Graham Lang Caroline corn and Nico. 642 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,000 Karen Nungan to. 643 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:48,000 Provide the presentation on the assessment that they've been working through and the outcome of that which is our roadmap over the next 25 years for infrastructure renewal of the two plants. 644 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:52,000 Thanks Greg can you hear me everybody. 645 01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:55,000 In the room that you can hear me. 646 01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,000 Okay great and you can see the screen. 647 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,000 Okay, so. 648 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:02,000 I'm sort of. 649 01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:07,000 In all of you guys sort of taking in all this information so I've got another sort of. 650 01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:11,000 Thirty slide presentation I'm going to sort of run through quickly. 651 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:20,000 I will it will be very much a whistle stop sort of two through it you do have the reports man stand you've most of you have sort of visited the plant so. 652 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:26,000 You'll understand some of it so I will go through very quickly and can kind of come back and cover things. 653 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:33,000 If you need me to go into more detail in any areas but that me sort of run through this as quickly as possible. 654 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:38,000 But please do stop me if you do have any questions as I go. 655 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:49,000 This is the presentation outline I'm not going to dwell on that but I'll just briefly explain what we did and then give you a findings for both plants and a summary. 656 01:10:50,000 --> 01:11:04,000 The two plants obviously you know the canora wastewater treatment plan on millerapids road there and couldora water treatment plan on seven street in canora I'll provide a few further details on those as I go through. 657 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:18,000 The objectives of the project that we've been working on with Greg and his team was to understand the state current state in terms of condition and risk on the both plants and to forecast investment needs to sustain both plants. 658 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:26,000 Over the next 25 years that word sustain is important and I'll come back to that. 659 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:42,000 The scope included developing the detailed asset inventory the city already had a few of the assets in a system I know you have a sort of CMS computer as maintenance management system as some of the assets in but we've developed a fully detailed inventory now. 660 01:11:42,000 --> 01:12:05,000 Assess as I said asset condition performance criticality and risk identify immediate needs the things that need to be fixed in the next year to two or three years maybe up to five years that are really repairs and then look at those end of life asset renewals in both the short term the next five years and the longer term over 25 years. 661 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:17,000 And then I'm hoping what we're showing here is demonstrating the impact of that proposed sustain and investment and the risk related to under investment in sustaining these two assets. 662 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:34,000 I'm expecting you to read that at the distance but it sort of shows you the level of detail that the inventory I mean the inventory extends to the right there but you'll see the sort of condition grading for the assets in the inventory but it's basically the type of asset the location. 663 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,000 The category. 664 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:52,000 The replacement value for that individual asset when it was in service how long it's expected to last and provide that functional service therefore how old it is and then we've assigned a condition grade that kind of resets that. 665 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:56,000 So that it's not an age based thing is based on the condition. 666 01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:12,000 Those assets are broken down just for ease of sort of analysis into engineering disciplines you can see them there with different types of assets that you would expect the civil is the robes the man holds the pipes in the ground architecture is the building envelope. 667 01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:23,000 The actual slabs tanks process mechanical the bits that typically require most of the maintenance and then but lots of building mechanical stuff as well to keep. 668 01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:33,000 The building to ventilate and do things like that heat the buildings and then the electrical and instrumentation of controls that support all of that. 669 01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:49,000 The methodology involved site assessment by a team of multidisciplinary engineers in each of those categories going around the two sites identifying immediate needs anything that needs to be repaired and also assigning a condition grade. 670 01:13:49,000 --> 01:14:00,000 So that a more complicated than the slap shot I've got there for you but it shows you that it's a scale of very good to very poor and it's aligned with remaining service life. 671 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:10,000 Or any asset there might be assets and there are a hundred years service life like a pipe I stick pipe and the ground compared to a PLC. 672 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:33,000 In a computer chip effectively for controlling the plant might be a 5-year service life but this aligns that and allows you to assign condition grading based on age if you can't inspect it obviously some of the stuff that's buried you can't see but it gets a condition grade anyway because it's aligned with its expected service life. 673 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:42,000 This sort of shows that a little further and shows you how that investment forecasting looks like so you buy an asset it doesn't last forever. 674 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:56,000 It's forty years five million dollars it will deteriorate and at some point you've got to buy it again and throw out its life it will deteriorate and this is that sort of condition grading curve that we're using to assess it. 675 01:14:56,000 --> 01:15:00,000 Risk as well we've assessed using the cities standard. 676 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:09,000 Five by five risk matrix that I'm assuming you have seen, it's come from your asset, corporate asset management plan. 677 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:19,000 Two scales, consequence and criticality, the consequence or criticality, sorry consequence and likelihood, the consequence, criticality is assessed. 678 01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:27,000 We did a first pass and then through workshops with city staff, including people operating the plants at each plant. 679 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:36,000 We've come up with scores for consequence, likelihood is aligned with condition grading, so that thing I showed you earlier. 680 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:48,000 Obviously through its life, the likelihood of any asset failing increases typically with a steeper curve towards the end, so that's what's been used to establish likelihood. 681 01:15:49,000 --> 01:16:02,000 And what we're really interested in is identified, those assets that are up here in the top right corner of the matrix, the very eye or the high assets, these ones down here need to be sort of monitored, but they can generally be ignored. 682 01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:17,000 This would be things like, you know, the high lift pumps of the water treatment plan, the key treatment processes, it might be, you know, the ceiling tiles in the lunch room, one of the plants. 683 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:36,000 So that's essentially what we did. I'm just going to take you through the sort of findings now. I won't dwell on this, but the wastewater treatment plan, as a series of process from screening, removing grit, the main treatment process aerobic, sorry, aeration system. 684 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:54,000 It's intermediate pumping secondary clarification on ultraviolet disinfection at the end before the affluent is discharged, and then there's obviously sludge treatment, taking the solid material, digesting that, creating a cake and taking that for disposal elsewhere. 685 01:16:55,000 --> 01:17:10,000 The valuation of the asset is important because we use, for condition grading, it's important to understand the condition grading relation to the value of the assets, not just the number of the assets, if you just count the number of assets, but can be very misleading. 686 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:17,000 So wastewater treatment plan with value to with a replacement value of nearly $72 million. 687 01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:34,000 Condition wise, you can see the overall condition grade there. I'm average with saying it's 3.5-8, so it's between fair and moving towards poor, the very poor is the stuff that's in the last 10% of its life. 688 01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:44,000 This stuff here, though, is significant as well, so it's not in that greater condition and does need some investment. 689 01:17:44,000 --> 01:18:03,000 This just shows the grading by the engineering disciplines, not unexpectedly, the process mechanical is a large part of it because that's doing most of the work and the structure which is providing the tankage to perform the treatment and you can see the sort of relative values of the 690 01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:25,000 In each condition grade, I won't dwell on that. This one I haven't gone into great detail on, but the things that have been picked up has been very high risk band assets for the water trend plan are the diffuses in the relation tank, which you're rated at $1.35 million and fair is each fact systems which are important. 691 01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:31,000 Perhaps just pause for a second just while there are some some students who are leaving there. 692 01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:35,000 Sorry, I didn't see that yet. 693 01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,000 Okay, we're all set. 694 01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:55,000 Can I go to carry on? 695 01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,000 Yes, go ahead. 696 01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:15,000 Yeah, so the things in the high risk band here are aeration diffuses and then some HVAC equipment which is equally some of which is high consequence because in a wastewater treatment plan, venting those dangerous gases is important. 697 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:23,000 The good thing is that some of these already part of ongoing projects that Bergen is team of moving forward with already. 698 01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:37,000 The immediate needs that we identified, these are things that we identified looking at kind of code compliance condition, performance type issues, some of them are kind of prioritised because they have a health and safety impact. 699 01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:53,000 Come up with nearly half a million dollars that we feel should be done in the first instance that are effectively repairs that includes things like lifesaving devices on open tanks that don't have any lifesaving equipment. 700 01:19:53,000 --> 01:20:07,000 Lower discharge piping that's leaking and lack of any means for disinfection of raw sewage that may bypass the plan in the high flow conditions. 701 01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:15,000 So there's various immediate needs in there including a few sort of studies that need further investigation. 702 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:22,000 The renewal forecast, this is a bit of a horrifying number, but over 25 years we've said. 703 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:27,000 The forecast which is completely unconstrained forecast. 704 01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:34,000 So we're not limiting it and it's not budget constrained in any way. It's just what the modelling shows at end of life. 705 01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:44,000 The replacement needs to be removed from the front end any of the ongoing projects as part of our task and we've grouped these into sort of effectively. 706 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:53,000 Projects have every five years or so to S2 that expenditure profile, but it does leave you with some very significant expenditure. 707 01:20:53,000 --> 01:21:09,000 So removing the existing young growing projects has removed a reasonable amount of expenditure, but there are still some very significant expenditure in that short term and certainly in that sort of 10 year window. 708 01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:23,000 Combining that together, so $126,000,000 there's $1.7 million in addition to what is already being spent on plan in current projects. 709 01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:34,000 And then in the longer term, 52 million in the sort of beyond the five year period. So it's a very significant numbers. 710 01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:53,000 Things in the next period that need to be replaced, as I said, the aeration tank diffuses, that's already ongoing work, there's some electrical work, HVAC systems that work in 2032 that we've got there includes work to the screw pumps, the aeration system and UV modules. 711 01:21:54,000 --> 01:22:03,000 Looking at this sort of impact of spending that are not spending there, but do nothing scenario shows that that condition profile of a shoulder the beginning. 712 01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:10,000 Obviously, turns poor if we do not invest in sustaining this asset through its life. 713 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:23,000 The proposed investment controls that, it doesn't all go green because you're not replacing everything at the same time, you know, doing it as it comes up, but it effectively stabilizes the condition grade. 714 01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:47,000 But it's also reflected in the risk, this is the risk profile valued notionally in dollars, but it's any score, the key thing here is that really that if you do nothing, the risk increases by about three to four times, what it will if you spend the money and sustain and maintain that level of current risk. 715 01:22:47,000 --> 01:23:09,000 So that's the way sort of treatment plan, the picture, the water treatment plan is very similar, again won't go through all this in detail, but you lift water out the lake, goes through clarifiers, filtration systems, disinfection, and then the high lift pumping pumps it into the distribution system. 716 01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:26,000 And there's various other sort of supporting systems there, valuation, we've said the water treatment plan is $57 million, again mostly sort of structural and process mechanical, but building systems and other things fairly significant, sorry, looking on. 717 01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:42,000 In condition grade we've raised, said it's not quite as bad overall the amount that is in very poor condition is more, but the overall condition of stuff in very poor and poor isn't quite as bad as the wastewater plan and we've. 718 01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:47,000 But of the average condition grade that I think we can say is still fair. 719 01:23:47,000 --> 01:24:09,000 That's the breakdown across the equipment, that things in the high risk area here rather than more value, $6.3 million but the good news is some of that's already projects committed with the high lift pumps and work that's going on with the low lift pumps and tankage there and some work to the filters. 720 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:13,000 There's a reasonable amount of work already going there and already committed. 721 01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:22,000 The picture on immediate needs is very similar for $100,000 over the next five years to repair things, look at. 722 01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:29,000 Some studies to investigate things further, it's noted that there's no one of the key items there. 723 01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:46,000 There's no chlorine, correct gas, rubber used chlorine gas to provide residual chlorine into the water supply and that's a very dangerous chemical and there's no scrubber there that leaves a significant risk to employees and potentially the public. 724 01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:58,000 So that's something we think needs to be investigated and there's some various other structural repairs and work to the fences and the security of the site which we believe is very important. 725 01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:04,000 The long term forecast 65.2 million unconstrained. 726 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:21,000 We've removed again the projects that are already ongoing and I've mentioned the low lift pump station, the high lift pump, some electrical work, the sodium hydroxide tank repairs and various other things that are ongoing at the moment reduces that overall burden. 727 01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:40,000 Again, we're using the risk scores so the grouping here kind of looks at the risk scores and all things forward that are to create projects that are higher risk higher consequence assets and which is back things that are less consequential. 728 01:25:41,000 --> 01:26:04,000 So summary there is that all 100, it's very similar really to the wastewater plant, but 400,000 dollars short term needs another 7.6 million dollars in renewal of assets and then in the long term 46.5 million dollars in the sort of beyond the five year horizon for 25 years. 729 01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:13,000 I'm sorry we're the total investment of $46.9 million dollars which is an average at $1.9 million a year. 730 01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:24,000 Things that are being done, so the 2028 investment includes sand and anthracite replacement in the filters, the filter under drains. 731 01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:40,000 Backwash troughs, so some fairly critical equipment there and then in 2034 project that we've got there, the backwash pump supernating pumps, airscow, blowers, various things and building work as well. 732 01:26:41,000 --> 01:27:08,000 Effectively the same pitch are there, do nothing, the plant deteriorates, not quite as significantly as seriously because it's in a slightly better condition overall, start with the proposed investment stabilizes that and does the same thing on the risk the risk is stabilised rather than, I think it goes up nearly four times if you don't put some investment into the statement of these assets. 733 01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:28,000 So in summary we recognize that, you know, that's a significant value across both plants, you know, a hundred million dollars over 25 years is, you know, four million dollars a year and a key thing that we want to point out is that that's a statement investment. 734 01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:42,000 So these investments based on visual inspection only, not any specific testing, you know, generally it was done by engineers who understand and do that routinely. 735 01:27:42,000 --> 01:28:02,000 The focus is on staining the asset to maintain its current function, it's not including upgrades, you know, it doesn't include anything to meet tighter treatment standards that either plant or to provide additional kind of council driven type things like green house gas reductions or anything like that. 736 01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:10,000 It's just to sustain the current performance and current condition of the asset to keep it doing what it does today. 737 01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:18,000 Conversely, though, those forecasts as I say are unconstrained, all assets are being replaced in that, so when I showed you that risk thing and said, 738 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:26,000 up the top is the high lift pumps down the bottom is the ceiling tiles in the lunch room, everything's getting replaced in most forecasts. 739 01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:32,000 So there are scenarios between the do nothing and the unconstrained forecasts that we've presented. 740 01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:44,000 You know, clearly we're not expecting all that budget necessary to be available and that's the sort of challenge going forward is to find that level of investment that maybe the ceiling tiles can be stretched another. 741 01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:50,000 Another 10, 20 years without being replaced and so there are options in between. 742 01:28:50,000 --> 01:29:02,000 Another thing just to point out is that potential climate change impacts have not explicitly been considered here to some extent renewing things will address some of that because they will be replaced with. 743 01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:18,000 Kind of modern day equivalents that will be better placed to sort of address some of those things that we haven't made any specific investments here to address any climate vulnerabilities and that's something we would certainly advocate you consider moving forward. 744 01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:28,000 So that's essentially the presentation that I hope summarizes the two reports that we've submitted that I think are about 45 page reports each. 745 01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:34,000 With attached dependencies so there's a lot of information there, so thank you for listening. 746 01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:36,000 I hope that was useful. 747 01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:41,000 Thank you very much. Do you mind taking questions off there or any. 748 01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:43,000 I'm very happy to take questions. 749 01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:47,000 Is there any questions available. 750 01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,000 Council. 751 01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:52,000 I know this wasn't part of the scope of the service. 752 01:29:52,000 --> 01:30:01,000 Maybe I'll direct the question more towards staff but given that this just sort of is the replacement value of the. 753 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:12,000 Compliance as is. And I seem to remember when we did our tour, the phrase, third world country being associated to our wastewater treatment plant. 754 01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:24,000 Do we have an idea of what it would take to bring that into a second world country level? 755 01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:32,000 This, I appreciate all the work you do this area freaks me out every time we talk about it. 756 01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:40,000 Yeah, I mean, sure, that phrase was thrown around a little bit when we were walking through and touring the plants. 757 01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:57,000 You know, there are there are sections and areas of the plant that aren't as bad as others. And so I think what we've received from associated engineering is a detailed breakdown of what areas to focus on and in what order to focus on those. 758 01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:08,000 So, you know, over the next 25 years we are really bringing the plants from the 19th century into the 20th century kind of thing. 759 01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:29,000 So that helps and then we also have on the side some general facility improvements and layout improvements that are already in the budget and being worked on to help create a better environment for the staff who are going into both plants on a daily basis. 760 01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:39,000 So I think, you know, combining that work and some of this work will help kind of bring us out and into a second or a first world country status. 761 01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:44,000 It's going to take time. It's going to take money. We will get there. 762 01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:58,000 And yeah, you know, it is a little bit freaky because it's kind of just, these plants are operating in the background, you know, nobody in the community experiences these plants on a daily basis except for really the staff and our department who are in there. 763 01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:14,000 And so it's it's something that needs to be dealt with, but it's almost like it's like the invisible item that you're just kind of talking about at a higher level and not really getting to put your hands on. So it's a little abstract in that respect, which which does make it a little freaky here. 764 01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:18,000 For anyone who's not directly involved. 765 01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:38,000 Okay. Can I pass the chair? Thanks. Thanks for all the information. I understand it's like a condition assessment report and upon inspection maybe things are maybe a little worse or a little better than useful life and all that stuff. 766 01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:51,000 But I get back to this thing about I look at the I look at the scales and I look at especially on the water treatment plant, the section very poor. 767 01:32:51,000 --> 01:33:06,000 And yet in 2526 and 27 you know, where I don't know what what it was here now was at 402,000 we're spending. 768 01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:19,000 You know, like are those things is that enough to spend because without that in the wastewater like we keep spending all our money on replacing pipes and that's great. 769 01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:32,000 But if these if these two assets aren't working nice pipes and the ground mean nothing to anybody in the community and we don't have water or proper water and such and I just. 770 01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:43,000 I know what this report now won't be all will spend 50,000 here in 50,000 this year which has been going on for 20 years and this is the result. 771 01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:51,000 There's been no attempt to upgrade anything except until there was a problem or a disaster. 772 01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:59,000 But is this enough and not should we be focusing more in on these two assets and maybe. 773 01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:07,000 We need to forego some of the other stuff because we're spending millions on a block to change pipe. 774 01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:17,000 And you know, it's some of the critical but they don't do not change the. 775 01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:22,000 These things will, they shut down we don't have water. 776 01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:27,000 We don't have a backup plant and it becomes very problematic. 777 01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:34,000 I know a lot of people say, you know, they're just wondering if we're really, 778 01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:40,000 we're really, we're really fighting people now for the next couple years to address the current 779 01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:46,000 and that critical needs that you've done since I've been having people like you've been having all, 780 01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:53,000 you know, the rest of the crisis, you know, you know, that's what I'm saying. 781 01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:58,000 That doesn't give you a warm question, you know, twenty-two years back, 782 01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:01,000 you know, why are you doing this? 783 01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:02,000 Why are you doing this? 784 01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:03,000 It's very hard. 785 01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:09,000 And we're spending my time until twenty-two, twenty-two, twenty-two, twenty-two, twenty-eight, 786 01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:12,000 more than two thousand dollars. 787 01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:15,000 You know, two, three, two, three, you know, 788 01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:18,000 the rest of the crisis, so like that. 789 01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:20,000 And what do you want to get straight enough to get? 790 01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:28,000 We're giving me information yet, but we need some direction going forward in budgeting, 791 01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:31,000 and I'm just wondering if we're missing the mark on that. 792 01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,000 Yeah, thanks, thanks, Your Worship. 793 01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,000 You're absolutely right. 794 01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:40,000 The issues that occur with piping in town are more isolated 795 01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:44,000 since that might impact a small number of community members. 796 01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:48,000 But if we do have a failure at the city's water treatment plan or the wastewater treatment plan, 797 01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:51,000 that impacts the whole community. 798 01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:58,000 What you've seen in the presentation today, and I'll invite associated to add comments onto my response, 799 01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:06,000 is some immediate needs, but that we've actually built into what council will see in the upcoming budget, 800 01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:09,000 major upgrades that are in the millions. 801 01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:14,000 So what I will be proposing to council later this month, or in early December, 802 01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:22,000 in the 2026 budget, is to get into design and then construction of almost $20 million of rehabilitation work, 803 01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:27,000 based on the priorities identified in these two studies over the next three to four years. 804 01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:36,000 And then when we get into the early to mid 2030s, we'll be looking at closer to about a $60 million investment in the two plants. 805 01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:45,000 And so we're absolutely going to be in the millions, and we're absolutely going to be upgrading major pieces of both plants 806 01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:50,000 to get ourselves out of this immediate kind of critical risk state. 807 01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:55,000 But associated, I don't know if you want to add any comments onto that. 808 01:36:55,000 --> 01:37:06,000 I would just point out that there's $12.8 million of very poor here, which is in the last 10% of its life. 809 01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:17,000 And that is covered, this is the immediate need, which is sort of repair work, but that very poor asset is in the forecast here. 810 01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:26,000 And we're retaining $7 million here, and I think the existing projects are the other $5 million. 811 01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:38,000 So in this summary here, we are spending this $400,000 on repairs, studies, et cetera, another $7.6 million here. 812 01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:45,000 What I didn't show here and probably should have added to the slide is that there's $5 million already committed in current projects, 813 01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:52,000 there's being spent, and then there's Greg said, another very significant project coming up in the next $5 year period. 814 01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:59,000 After this $5 year period, I can't see that number on my screen here, $22 million. 815 01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:12,000 So yeah, absolutely, that this don't get hung up on this, this is smaller repair type things, this is the bigger expenditure on making sure things are replaced. 816 01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:27,000 And I do a word, you replace it the day before it fails, but that's what we're seeking to do avoid any failures of the water stream and the waste, but to you, Greg. 817 01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,000 Thanks, Greg. 818 01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:32,000 Thanks, Greg. 819 01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:37,000 Thanks for the presentation, and thanks for your input, Greg. 820 01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:43,000 I'm totally comfortable with this assessment and you know what we need to do. 821 01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:17,000 Thank you. 822 01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:22,000 Thank you. 823 01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:47,000 You have a lettuce down yet, so I'm comfortable with the level of risk. 824 01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:58,000 Life involves risk and we have to manage risk, so again, I think this is this is very strategic. 825 01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:13,000 We're addressing it straight on and I'm comfortable with the plan for someone to say that, thanks. 826 01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:17,000 Okay, any other questions? 827 01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:21,000 Okay, thank you very much for your presentation. 828 01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:26,000 We have this information on whether we want to see it or not. 829 01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:32,000 We have it now and it's a good planning tool going forward, so thank you. 830 01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:34,000 Do you have any lost comments? 831 01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:38,000 No, no, I just want to thank so much for the hard work. 832 01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:44,000 It's been 16, 18 month grind here to get us to this point and really happy with the output. 833 01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:50,000 We truly do have a roadmap to take us through the next 25 years and to keep both plants running. 834 01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:58,000 We've got the plan now, so we've got to work the plan. 835 01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:00,000 Okay, thank you. 836 01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:04,000 So I'm wondering if we could just take a five minute break. 837 01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:12,000 It's a little off the 10th or you know, just five minutes and then we will get back to the communication piece. 838 01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:23,000 And then I know Dr. Brainier, you have some time constraints here and then you will be first under operations. 839 01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:30,000 Thank you. 840 01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:00,000 Thank you. 841 01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:30,000 Thank you. 842 01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:00,000 Thank you. 843 01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:30,000 Thank you. 844 01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:00,000 Thank you. 845 01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:30,000 Thank you. 846 01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:00,000 Thank you. 847 01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:58,000 Thank you everybody. Welcome back. We're ready? 848 01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:06,000 Okay. So we're going to move along on item number five deputation presentation. So we have my authority. 849 01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:08,000 Our communication. 850 01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:14,000 I don't want to get your title wrong enough. So you're senior communication specialist. 851 01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:16,000 I'm sorry. 852 01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:24,000 We have got it. She's going to talk about the canor.ca redesign. So it's all yours. 853 01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:28,000 Well, thank you, your merchant and council for having me today. So I'm going to jump in. 854 01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:34,000 I'm presenting today as more of a tour of the website. 855 01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:40,000 And we'll go with, first I want to jump into some thank yous actually before I get into the tour, 856 01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:46,000 because this was a large collaborative effort with all the departments. 857 01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:52,000 So I would like to first start off a big thank you to Carrie Holder, our communications officer. 858 01:52:52,000 --> 01:53:04,000 She was a, I can't say enough about her in regards to this website without her support, 859 01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:10,000 especially expertise on accessibility standards. This website would not be made possible. 860 01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:18,000 This website involved recreating and migrating content over an updating content for over 300 pages. 861 01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:26,000 So it was a large undertaking for the communications department and then other departments as well that we're involved. 862 01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,000 So we had a very busy summer. 863 01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:34,000 So I want to extend a big thank you to Carrie for coordinating with various different departments, gathering information, 864 01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:42,000 and again, balancing that accessibility standards that we have to adhere to, as well as balancing that with multiple people's 865 01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:48,000 wishlist items that they wanted to see integrated onto the website. 866 01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:52,000 I also want to extend a big thank you to Crystal and the library team. 867 01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:58,000 They're review of all their existing library pages on their micro site and then migrating that over to the new library 868 01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:02,000 pages within this site, as well as learning a new backend system. 869 01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:08,000 Was a big task as well during the summer, plus with the regular day-to-day activities. 870 01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:16,000 So again, big thank you to them. I also want to thank Megan and Allison from the economic development department, 871 01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:20,000 for coordinating with Carrie for the economic development pages specifically. 872 01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:30,000 And we were able to create pages that had both the city of Knoara branding as well as the economic development tourism branding. 873 01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:36,000 And big appreciation to all the department leads and managers who reviewed and provide 874 01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:42,000 provided updates to their web pages without having the update information from each department. 875 01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:46,000 Our website wouldn't be the way that it looks today. 876 01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:52,000 And then last but certainly not least, but it is the last stage before launching the website is IT. 877 01:54:52,000 --> 01:55:00,000 A big thank you to our IT manager Mark and the team over at MNP for ensuring a successful DNS configuration. 878 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:06,000 I often compare websites to building and doing interior design in the house. 879 01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:14,000 So the communications department can make it look good and pick out the colors and the branding and make sure everything looks cohesive and matches. 880 01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:29,000 And navigate well but without a good foundation and without the IT infrastructure, we wouldn't have people directed to the site that you see here today without that IT help in the background. 881 01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:38,000 Okay, so I'd like to again just before jumping into scrolling and taking you through the fun side of the tour. 882 01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:46,000 So stuff that you don't see on the back end of this website necessarily unless you have. 883 01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:50,000 Reader assist apps or go through a deep dive of the website. 884 01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:54,000 I really want to hone in on a big accessibility component of this updated site. 885 01:55:54,000 --> 01:56:01,000 So similar to our previous site, we follow accessibility for Ontarians with Disabilities Act. 886 01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:16,000 AODA guidelines this new site has been upgraded to the web content accessibility guidelines otherwise known as WCAG at a 2.0 level so it's a level AA. 887 01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:24,000 What you see is a sleep looking website but what's behind the scenes hours put in accessibility integrations into the back end. 888 01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:40,000 Just to touch the tip of the iceberg with what this means is that content is all the content is written at a low grade reading level for easy to understand knowledge except for terminology is absolutely necessary in specific departments navigation on the website. 889 01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:55,000 We tried to keep it to two levels minimum so instead of endless scrolls you might have to get redirected to another page where there's condensed information but you're not having to click like five different times to get to something. 890 01:56:55,000 --> 01:57:03,000 So we're designed the website we tried to keep it to two possible clicks to get to where you need to if possible. 891 01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:18,000 Alternate text or text you'll me say a few times later is on every single photo in this website. So what that means is if somebody is using a reader assistant it will give a description of what the photo is. 892 01:57:19,000 --> 01:57:41,000 Heading styles and content formatting are also applied throughout so very very simple terms what you see on word when you're putting in like headings and titles and quotes and things like that it's not just a matter of going in and bold facing things like there's actual accessibility standards where we have to format that stuff very specifically and it's coded that way. 893 01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:56,000 Tabels are formatted there's captions there's also the use of forms and fillable forms online here throughout where we're trying to minimize the use of PDF forms as much as possible to make it easier to use. 894 01:57:56,000 --> 01:58:07,000 And then you'll see on various pages as well that we include a statement about contacting the clerk for alternative forms documents if you need an accessible format of a document. 895 01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:18,000 So that again just touches the iceberg of the accessibility components but I'll jump right into the the fun part of the tour here and I'll take you through the home page and some key features. 896 01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:30,000 So to start off you can see we have a pop up and an alert banner so the pop up is what you see here is a sample what's currently on our site for the Q8 and channel bridge. 897 01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:39,000 So when people first visit the website they will be served pop ups depending on what information is crucial for us to get out there. 898 01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:45,000 When the site first launched we also had the website feedback form on there. 899 01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:48,000 I believe that there is this. 900 01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:51,000 There we go so we still have that pop up as well. 901 01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:57,000 This website feedback form is also available in the footer and I'll show you that shortly. 902 01:58:58,000 --> 01:59:14,000 So when you go to the website you'll get served a pop up if you've gone to the website multiple times in the same day you're not going to keep getting that same pop up so cookies are tracked for that but if there's a new pop up that arrives or new messages then a new pop up will show up. 903 01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:20,000 In addition to the pop up you also we also have. 904 01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:23,000 On the presentation sorry. 905 01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:41,000 We also see new to the website is this top banner that's green right now we have different colors for different alerts but if we want to have an alert that's up there that stays up there while the user is on the website on whichever page there's that information along the top so right now we have information about. 906 01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:44,000 E-billing and mail mail mail delays. 907 01:59:44,000 --> 01:59:49,000 You can also close out the if it's. 908 01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:59,000 And then I just want to draw attention to something that is new that carried it up is this week I want to button. 909 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:13,000 Which I got really nerdy and excited about when she put on the site. These are organized into, these are some of the most common pieces that people have clicked on in regards to the website. 910 02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:26,000 And then one organizing it into three different categories, it was a feat in itself. But having this very, very quickly accessible, always in the top right corner for people who are looking for these specific things. 911 02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:32,000 Very, very quick, again, trying to limit how many times how long it takes for people to click through things. 912 02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:42,000 We've all had a bad user experience on websites where if it takes too long to get to let's say a shopping cart, we kind of abandon the website and we're like, okay, we're done. 913 02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:45,000 We don't want that experience on the City of Canora's website. 914 02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:55,000 So this I want to, is a very sleek way to get to your, the most popular information. If it's not in there as well, there's still the search bar at the bottom. 915 02:00:56,000 --> 02:01:03,000 And then we also have the search bar on the home screen, which is very identifiably Canora. 916 02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:11,000 And then we also have the search bar up here in the top corner. This is always present wherever whatever page anybody is on. 917 02:01:11,000 --> 02:01:14,000 Okay. 918 02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:23,000 So here we also, I want to draw some attention to the contact us. We had this on the previous site. 919 02:01:23,000 --> 02:01:32,000 But this is also available on any page that you're on, you're going to see this top banner with our logo, the living here, visit, play, build and invest tabs. 920 02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:41,000 The contact us the search bar and I want to. So it's nice and convenient so that if someone is in the middle of reading something, they can always access that information. 921 02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:44,000 So this contact us page has been updated. 922 02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:49,000 It's a little bit more streamlined and easier to scroll through. It's divided up by departments. 923 02:01:49,000 --> 02:01:58,000 And then you can also expand each piece out to get more information. So you have the phone number on the right hand side as you see. 924 02:01:58,000 --> 02:02:07,000 If we wanted to get more information, let's say for our customer service, you can click it open. 925 02:02:07,000 --> 02:02:18,000 And then every every department or contact in here also has a prompt to send an email to them that them will open up a box where you can start typing out an email specifically. 926 02:02:18,000 --> 02:02:23,000 We haven't set up this way to also limit fishing attempts whereas other sites. 927 02:02:23,000 --> 02:02:29,000 It's best practice now not to list out websites explicitly or so that websites emails explicitly. 928 02:02:29,000 --> 02:02:37,000 So if you click this, it will go to the user's specific email software. 929 02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:43,000 So for us, it might be outlook or Gmail depending on what you're using if using that at home. 930 02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:48,000 Let's go back over to the home page. 931 02:02:48,000 --> 02:03:02,000 Let's see here. We also now have these sleek icons right along the top, which again are also very popular pieces, picking which ones which six to include were difficult. 932 02:03:02,000 --> 02:03:12,000 But going through request from our past website, we are able to set up a really sleek looking homepage with streamlined most common pieces that were clicked. 933 02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:22,000 And then as well as a we're calling this internally, the strategy section strategies and plans. 934 02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:32,000 So I also want to note that these aren't necessarily all the cities strategies and plans if you click open one, let's say the sustainability action plan. 935 02:03:32,000 --> 02:03:38,000 You can also see on these right hand menus, I'll be calling them pods throughout the presentation. 936 02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:49,000 If you click in here, you can also see other strategic plans and reports and what that. 937 02:03:49,000 --> 02:03:54,000 Back to the home page. 938 02:03:54,000 --> 02:03:58,000 This is a new feature on the website that we didn't have before. 939 02:03:58,000 --> 02:04:06,000 Occasionally, we'll get requests to that we need something that's prominent on the home page for people with new projects, new initiatives, 940 02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:15,000 updates on specific things. So now we have this in real time, we can update this and then redirect for more information. So it has a very. 941 02:04:15,000 --> 02:04:24,000 High engaging image short call to action with a very clear button that then redirect you to the pages that this corresponds to. 942 02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:35,000 We've also moved the land acknowledgement from a pop-up on the old site to directly on the home page and then it also links over to our new indigenous relations page. 943 02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:48,000 Hi, my favorite section is got to be this what's happening section. We had this on the old website, but we've modified this and cleaned it up a little bit. 944 02:04:48,000 --> 02:04:53,000 So this is a big hub on the on the home page, particularly. 945 02:04:53,000 --> 02:05:04,000 And anybody that's in the public that's wanting to find out what's happening in regards to real time news, this would be the main spot that I would recommend that everybody checks out regularly. 946 02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:17,000 So the news updates as the news updates in real time and if you want to see more, you can click this all news and see it's organized from the most recently published. 947 02:05:17,000 --> 02:05:21,000 All right, see we already have the canora housing needs assessment posted up. 948 02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:31,000 Events, we also have a community events calendar, so we'll feature some of the days upcoming events or the following days upcoming events here. 949 02:05:31,000 --> 02:05:36,000 And then we have actually going to go into this quickly. 950 02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:48,000 So this featured events calendar is a community calendar that anybody can go on if you are an external organization on event planner you don't have to be working within the city of Canora. 951 02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:54,000 You can go online and you can actually create your own account and add your own event. 952 02:05:54,000 --> 02:06:12,000 I do want to list that not that events that you go through in approval process and that approval process parameters for that are events submissions that need to be professional they need to be inclusive, respectful and open to the public to attend. 953 02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:14,000 That's Canora events specifically. 954 02:06:14,000 --> 02:06:20,000 We ask that you do not post events like your garage sale or your wedding social. 955 02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:33,000 So we won't be putting any of that on there but if you are an organization that has an event that is coming up feel free to go on to this side of the page and then press this submit event button. 956 02:06:33,000 --> 02:06:35,000 Right there. 957 02:06:35,000 --> 02:06:36,000 Okay. 958 02:06:36,000 --> 02:06:44,000 If you want to you can also filter through the events specifically. So if you're wanting to check out the library specific events if there's community programs. 959 02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:50,000 The news recreation other special events again by other organizations. 960 02:06:50,000 --> 02:06:54,000 Okay. 961 02:06:54,000 --> 02:06:57,000 So back over to the what's happening section. 962 02:06:57,000 --> 02:07:04,000 And then this is new to the site is this bottom corner here we're internally calling this the public engagement corner. 963 02:07:04,000 --> 02:07:07,000 So the intent of this is. 964 02:07:07,000 --> 02:07:20,000 Again, it's updating on a regular basis so the intent here is to have a spot where the public can go to get quick little bit bites of information about how to get involved in some way. 965 02:07:20,000 --> 02:07:27,000 This is where we would envision any upcoming town halls or open houses surveys for example. 966 02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:32,000 We have it colored so it pops out a little bit on a little bit more prominently on the page. 967 02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:37,000 It has a call to action button that we can then direct people to a specific spot. 968 02:07:37,000 --> 02:07:43,000 Right now we're highlighting the tree lighting that's going on. 969 02:07:43,000 --> 02:07:47,000 And then you'll see frequently on most of the pages as well. 970 02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:50,000 This blue section that says stay in the note. 971 02:07:50,000 --> 02:07:57,000 We on the previous site you would have to search how to subscribe to updates. 972 02:07:57,000 --> 02:08:00,000 And now this is more prominent on most pages. 973 02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:03,000 So if you see this blue banner or you hear in the community. 974 02:08:03,000 --> 02:08:06,000 How do I stay up to date with what's going on in the city of Canora? 975 02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:11,000 You can direct friends, family and the public to this blue section of the website. 976 02:08:11,000 --> 02:08:16,000 And if you hit subscribe. 977 02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:22,000 You can fill out some quick information about yourself and then what types of updates do you actually would like to receive. 978 02:08:22,000 --> 02:08:24,000 So you can opt. 979 02:08:24,000 --> 02:08:26,000 You don't have to necessarily pick every single thing. 980 02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:29,000 If only you're interested in Coney Island news updates. 981 02:08:29,000 --> 02:08:35,000 And let's say snow removal then you can subscribe to just those elements. 982 02:08:35,000 --> 02:08:39,000 If you scroll down there's also the city's e-campus newsletter. 983 02:08:39,000 --> 02:08:41,000 These are two separate programs. 984 02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:48,000 So we do ask that if you are wanting that newsletter that you fill this out as well and press submit. 985 02:08:48,000 --> 02:08:51,000 Okay. 986 02:08:51,000 --> 02:08:54,000 Other. 987 02:08:54,000 --> 02:09:01,000 Other notable pieces that I'd like to draw attention to on the website. 988 02:09:01,000 --> 02:09:03,000 I mentioned the library. 989 02:09:03,000 --> 02:09:07,000 Earlier, let's dive a little bit into the library's pages here. 990 02:09:07,000 --> 02:09:12,000 So the previous site was set up the library had a separate micro site. 991 02:09:12,000 --> 02:09:15,000 That wasn't feasible with this new transition. 992 02:09:15,000 --> 02:09:22,000 So what we have to do was actually do a complete custom design for these library pages. 993 02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:29,000 So that patrons of the library who regularly would come to expect specific resources. 994 02:09:29,000 --> 02:09:34,000 That we could migrate that stuff over to live within the city of Canara website. 995 02:09:34,000 --> 02:09:43,000 So these pages are all custom designed with Crystal's team and carried it a lot of work with their team to do this. 996 02:09:43,000 --> 02:09:46,000 So they have specific library news, specific library events. 997 02:09:46,000 --> 02:09:48,000 These also feed into that community calendar. 998 02:09:48,000 --> 02:09:52,000 But here specifically it's just library. 999 02:09:52,000 --> 02:09:57,000 There's a search bar for your to search the library specific pages. 1000 02:09:57,000 --> 02:10:02,000 And then there's also a search to look through the library's catalog for their books. 1001 02:10:02,000 --> 02:10:05,000 I'm a big book nerd myself. 1002 02:10:05,000 --> 02:10:07,000 So I always like looking out this. 1003 02:10:07,000 --> 02:10:11,000 This new arrivals at the library and you can span through the different books. 1004 02:10:11,000 --> 02:10:15,000 And this goes with any book that they get at the library that they newly receive. 1005 02:10:15,000 --> 02:10:19,000 They scan it and it goes into the system here and also syncs up with the website. 1006 02:10:19,000 --> 02:10:24,000 So any new releases are also also featured here. 1007 02:10:25,000 --> 02:10:30,000 And you can see we've set this up similar to how they had the micro site where each tab. 1008 02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:36,000 In a way then goes to specific pieces for the library. 1009 02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:41,000 Another big component that we were really key on as well was. 1010 02:10:41,000 --> 02:10:45,000 There's certain departments library included that have their own brand identity. 1011 02:10:45,000 --> 02:10:51,000 And we're wanting to continue to convey that these other brand identities are still part of the city of Canara. 1012 02:10:51,000 --> 02:10:56,000 So we had to marry these in a way where it's very clear that this is stuff for the public library. 1013 02:10:56,000 --> 02:10:59,000 But at the same time it's part of the city of Canara. 1014 02:10:59,000 --> 02:11:04,000 So we still had the city of Canara header up at the top with the logo so that people make that association. 1015 02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:07,000 And then additionally down at the bottom too. 1016 02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:14,000 We have both logos featured. 1017 02:11:14,000 --> 02:11:19,000 Similar to that we also did that with the economic development department. 1018 02:11:19,000 --> 02:11:24,000 So their logo very prominently displayed. 1019 02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:29,000 They also have their specific economic development tabs so to speak or pages. 1020 02:11:29,000 --> 02:11:32,000 Key sectors and components here. 1021 02:11:32,000 --> 02:11:37,000 And then they also have their own social media accounts that we wanted to draw attention to. 1022 02:11:37,000 --> 02:11:46,000 While still reminding everybody that these departments are all part of the city of Canara as well. 1023 02:11:46,000 --> 02:11:49,000 Let's go into. 1024 02:11:49,000 --> 02:11:51,000 Let's go back to the home. 1025 02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:54,000 Let's go test out. 1026 02:11:54,000 --> 02:11:58,000 Let's go to beaches and trails and parks. 1027 02:11:58,000 --> 02:12:03,000 So bringing you guys over to this page specifically because you can see now we have. 1028 02:12:03,000 --> 02:12:08,000 The website features a lot of Canara specific imagery. 1029 02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:13,000 Whereas before we did have a few but here we have a lot of photos and call to actions and buttons. 1030 02:12:13,000 --> 02:12:17,000 So it's really clear that when you're hovering over pieces what's clickable. 1031 02:12:17,000 --> 02:12:24,000 Any image is clickable on the website so you can either click the button or the picture itself. 1032 02:12:24,000 --> 02:12:33,000 So it's very highly engaging in that way and not just solid text that you're scrolling through all the website pages are also set up to be mobile and tablet friendly. 1033 02:12:33,000 --> 02:12:42,000 So depending on whatever device you are on it will reconfigure to fit appropriately onto your screens. 1034 02:12:42,000 --> 02:12:50,000 And again I think it's worth mentioning here that every single photo that you see has an alt text description in the back. 1035 02:12:50,000 --> 02:13:03,000 So for anybody that's using a screen reader or maybe visually impaired for example if they have a screen reader it will explain that there are three children on a beach wrapped in towels say or. 1036 02:13:03,000 --> 02:13:05,000 Pardon me. 1037 02:13:05,000 --> 02:13:08,000 Did not know that did not plan that. 1038 02:13:08,000 --> 02:13:20,000 So like I said very distinctly canora. 1039 02:13:20,000 --> 02:13:23,000 Can confirm local people. 1040 02:13:23,000 --> 02:13:28,000 Okay and then I also want to draw attention to. 1041 02:13:28,000 --> 02:13:34,000 Let's see here this the footer for a moment here so we have our city of canara social media channels here. 1042 02:13:34,000 --> 02:13:43,000 I also have in here some common resources so accessibility inclusion again the contact us it will redirect you to that contact page. 1043 02:13:43,000 --> 02:13:52,000 The subscribe will take you to that stay in the no spot that I've previously shown and then this website feedback form again the footer is visible on every single page you're on. 1044 02:13:52,000 --> 02:14:03,000 So if you are having a complication on the website and instead of having to search for it or go on the search far and type in feedback you can go down to the footer and click there and then be redirected directly to the. 1045 02:14:03,000 --> 02:14:10,000 To directly to the feedback form which is super short and sweet you give general feedback about what's going on on the page that you're on. 1046 02:14:10,000 --> 02:14:20,000 You can provide your name in your email if you would like us to reach back out to you if there's something specific let's say somebody's having a problem paying a bill online. 1047 02:14:20,000 --> 02:14:26,000 Or you can anonymously leave feedback and then press the submit button and then you're good to go. 1048 02:14:27,000 --> 02:14:40,000 Another new feature on the website not a new feature or a tool per se but a something that is handy and also on a lot of pages I'm just going to pick a random page. 1049 02:14:40,000 --> 02:14:47,000 Over on the right hand side you'll see these pod menus that I've referenced and under the pod menus there's the contact us. 1050 02:14:47,000 --> 02:15:00,000 People might be prompted when they're reading to be at oh I have a question about this so we have our customer service general line there and the after hours line hours of operation and on I would say. 1051 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:11,000 90% or more of the pages. You'll see this submitter request for service. So, this tool we've been using for years, but now is that much more accessible and easy to find on the website. 1052 02:15:11,000 --> 02:15:29,000 So, if you are wanting to submit a request for service, you'd click the button, go to the request for service page, log it online form, and this is where the public can put in anything from a bylaw complaint to park maintenance requests, snow removal, my garbage wasn't picked up a pot hole. 1053 02:15:29,000 --> 02:15:40,000 There are over 20 different selections here. I highly recommend to that if you have it to take a picture and upload the photo as well to that. 1054 02:15:40,000 --> 02:15:55,000 And then put in a brief description as to what your request for your citizen issue is, and then press submit, and then that gets directed to the department that specifically maintain and manage by. 1055 02:15:55,000 --> 02:16:08,000 So, again, this isn't a new tool, but the new aspect of it is that now it's accessible from the right hand menu, any time anybody is navigating around this website. 1056 02:16:08,000 --> 02:16:15,000 Okay, and I think in a general sense that encompasses most of the key features of the website. 1057 02:16:15,000 --> 02:16:28,000 It is a very robust website over 300 pages. I'm sure that since launching in September 15th, everybody here has gone to the website a number of times. 1058 02:16:28,000 --> 02:16:35,000 But please feel free to see anything, see any improvements or would like to see anything added. 1059 02:16:35,000 --> 02:16:40,000 Please let us know directly or you can fill out the website feedback form at the bottom. 1060 02:16:40,000 --> 02:16:44,000 Hey, any comments, questions? Yes. 1061 02:16:44,000 --> 02:16:47,000 I didn't see a museum anywhere. 1062 02:16:47,000 --> 02:16:58,000 Yes, we do have the museum. It is in visit and play and it is in, you can search it as well as arts and culture. 1063 02:16:58,000 --> 02:17:09,000 Here we go. So, you can click on any of this. Sorry, I went really fast there. You can click on any of these icons or when you hover over, you'll see it links in it pulses as well. 1064 02:17:09,000 --> 02:17:21,000 So, these custom icons as well and then or you can go to the pod menu and go to the museums that way. So, again using photos. We also have the ability now to have photo galleries. 1065 02:17:21,000 --> 02:17:33,000 So, that's what these dots are. So, if we have a lot of hope, sleek photos that we want to feature, we could also do that if that way. This is on a timer. I think it's going every three to five seconds. 1066 02:17:33,000 --> 02:17:38,000 I'm just impatient while showing you. 1067 02:17:38,000 --> 02:17:48,000 Yeah. And these are proving to be super handy as well. We can add photos in this style to news and notices and other pages as well. 1068 02:17:54,000 --> 02:18:02,000 This is great. My, even for garlic, me who stumbles through these websites. It's pretty, pretty self-evident. 1069 02:18:02,000 --> 02:18:10,000 The pictures are quite, they're great. Actually, are these all, did you take the pictures or? 1070 02:18:10,000 --> 02:18:18,000 No, there are a combination of photos that the city of Canora and tourism departments specifically and the city of Canora have purchased and have license. 1071 02:18:18,000 --> 02:18:27,000 Up into the end of 2027. And then a number of them are also taken by workers out in the field. 1072 02:18:27,000 --> 02:18:36,000 So, city workers themselves. And then as well as carry in myself or, again, tourism department had a lot of photos that they were able to provide us. 1073 02:18:36,000 --> 02:18:41,000 Both from a professional standpoint and ones that their team has taken as well. 1074 02:18:41,000 --> 02:18:49,000 Is there remember we had a conversation about photographs and using photographs or as opposed to professional photographers? 1075 02:18:49,000 --> 02:18:53,000 But I think this hits the mark 100% and it's very well done and I appreciate it. 1076 02:18:53,000 --> 02:19:01,000 I just want to mention on the first page, again, you showed the thing at the drop down, it has our plans, like our economic development. 1077 02:19:01,000 --> 02:19:10,000 I love to see our community safety well being planned, like that was conspicuously absent for, you know, I think prior to this term of counsel really. 1078 02:19:10,000 --> 02:19:22,000 So, I think the fact that we've achieved that and it's on our main page, I think it's great. So it's great to be able to see those and have them, you know, one of the first things you see when you go to the site. 1079 02:19:22,000 --> 02:19:23,000 Very well done. 1080 02:19:23,000 --> 02:19:34,000 Thank you very much. Definitely the new layout of this really enables us to as new initiatives, plans, strategies and events are happening. 1081 02:19:34,000 --> 02:19:49,000 There's now actual spots that we can say, hey, this is where this is going to live, whereas before on the previous site we had, I think it was, I want to say eight icons where we had similar icons and then a little paragraph underneath, but we didn't have a photo. 1082 02:19:49,000 --> 02:20:01,000 So sometimes people would just scroll past it and the community safety and well being planned was one of those that were on there, that it may have been missed and then sometimes when there was key highlights or initiatives going on. 1083 02:20:01,000 --> 02:20:12,000 So it would be like, hey, I want to be on the home page and every department has a number one priority in every department. So how do we pick who gets home page treatment, right? 1084 02:20:12,000 --> 02:20:30,000 So now having these specific, okay, we know the popular icons, we know that we have the I want to, having this rotating banner is going to be that huge piece where hey, if there's something that the public is asking a lot of questions about, we can do up a banner for it and start directing people specifically to that information. 1085 02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:36,000 Thank you. Any other questions? 1086 02:20:36,000 --> 02:20:39,000 Don't see it. 1087 02:20:39,000 --> 02:20:48,000 Yeah, I just want to thank Maya and Carrie for their effort. Anybody who's done a project like this and unfortunately I've been a part of a couple of them. 1088 02:20:48,000 --> 02:20:55,000 It's a huge beast to wrestle to the ground. So I know a lot of work went in. This is top quality work and just wanted to say thanks for your efforts. 1089 02:20:55,000 --> 02:20:57,000 Thank you. Thank you very much. 1090 02:20:57,000 --> 02:21:09,000 And again, I really want to extend a big thank you to the library team and economic development library. We had to that to learn a new system and migrate over all of their page content and copy and paste that over. 1091 02:21:09,000 --> 02:21:24,000 Everything that the library and the communications department was pumping out on the website and public notices and whatnot on the old website in the background. We were also duplicating that effort and doing it here. 1092 02:21:24,000 --> 02:21:31,000 That's something also that with a big, made it made for a very busy summer all the way. 1093 02:21:31,000 --> 02:21:33,000 Thank you. So Heather, did you? 1094 02:21:33,000 --> 02:21:47,000 Yeah, I just wanted to add again, thanks, stays for pointing out big credit to Maya as well and her leadership in the department and full circle back to council in their commitment to this role. 1095 02:21:47,000 --> 02:22:00,000 We've seen your communications advisor role, which has allowed us the opportunity to move communications forward and to be able to undertake a project like this would have been very, very challenging to do. 1096 02:22:00,000 --> 02:22:06,000 Being a one person show so thank you for that commitment to this position. 1097 02:22:06,000 --> 02:22:16,000 And thank you to Maya and her team and everyone who committed to this project over the summer because it was a lot of additional work on top of the already busy day to day comms needs. 1098 02:22:17,000 --> 02:22:23,000 We still have work to do in some of the committee meeting minutes. I'll own that one. 1099 02:22:23,000 --> 02:22:29,000 You were doing so well in that it was like it was finality and then thanks very much, Maya. 1100 02:22:29,000 --> 02:22:31,000 Thank you very much. 1101 02:22:32,000 --> 02:22:38,000 So we're going to jump a bit on the agenda to director brain. 1102 02:22:38,000 --> 02:22:42,000 And then we will circle back to you. 1103 02:22:42,000 --> 02:22:50,000 Director Pickello, it's just you have your time sensitive here to finish your reports. 1104 02:22:50,000 --> 02:22:59,000 So if you want to move to six point two six point two point one infrastructure and operations key through the report. 1105 02:22:59,000 --> 02:23:12,000 Thank you. Thank you. Your worship. So have here the twenty twenty five cue three infrastructure and operations quarterly report for council's review and information. 1106 02:23:12,000 --> 02:23:20,000 A couple big items to talk about in the report and just just touch on is a restructuring that took place in cue three. 1107 02:23:20,000 --> 02:23:28,000 So the previously known engineering and infrastructure group has been renamed to infrastructure and 1108 02:23:28,000 --> 02:23:40,000 operations with a real focus on our capital project delivery, our infrastructure renewal and quality of service delivery in our operations departments. 1109 02:23:40,000 --> 02:23:49,000 And so new our chart has been provided for for council's review and also the public is interested. 1110 02:23:50,000 --> 02:23:56,000 You know I just I want to acknowledge some of the operations departments in the quarter. 1111 02:23:56,000 --> 02:24:13,000 Summer time is always a very very busy season for the group and whether it's the fleet department attending to just a real a significant load of service requests relating to our city equipment to support all of our operations. 1112 02:24:13,000 --> 02:24:27,000 The parks and harbour town team dealing with community cleanliness and repairs and graffiti removal it's a major effort always in the summer. 1113 02:24:27,000 --> 02:24:39,000 And the roads department you know I feel like when you drive around the community now we've we've got a much better handle on our road conditions the ongoing maintenance the pot holding situation. 1114 02:24:39,000 --> 02:24:44,000 I really wanted to particularly acknowledge those three groups in the operations department. 1115 02:24:44,000 --> 02:24:55,000 But then on as well you know on the on the flip side we have a lot happening with projects and a lot of work that kicked off in cue three and we'll continue and take us in the next year. 1116 02:24:55,000 --> 02:25:07,000 But not only what you can physically see happening in the community behind the scenes there's some real effort going into our design works to prepare for the next projects that are upcoming. 1117 02:25:07,000 --> 02:25:23,000 I've really impressed on the team that it is important that we start advancing our schedules in terms of design and project readiness so that we have shelf ready project sitting and ready to go when the budget is past that we can get out get tender to get started in the community. 1118 02:25:23,000 --> 02:25:36,000 Early or then I've seen us do in the past and so we're going to continue to work through that and advance that schedule on the design so that we're ready and things are happening faster in the community. 1119 02:25:36,000 --> 02:25:48,000 Other than that happen to take any questions if there are any but I'll I'll leave it at that kind of brief summary for the court report any questions account. 1120 02:25:48,000 --> 02:25:50,000 Thank you. 1121 02:25:50,000 --> 02:25:52,000 So we'll move on to. 1122 02:25:52,000 --> 02:25:57,000 6.2.2 capital needs assessment reports. 1123 02:25:57,000 --> 02:26:01,000 Yes thank you so. 1124 02:26:01,000 --> 02:26:09,000 Associate engineering was here a bit earlier to provide council with an overview of the two reports that have been provided. 1125 02:26:09,000 --> 02:26:20,000 Quick summary is that for both the cities water and wastewater treatments plants administration identified those a couple of years ago as some items that. 1126 02:26:20,000 --> 02:26:35,000 You know needed some attention and had a potential risk in terms of continuous service delivery and we knew that there was investment needed in both of those areas and we wanted to. 1127 02:26:35,000 --> 02:26:43,000 Lay out a plan for how to go about that effectively and efficiently and so we partnered with associated engineering to. 1128 02:26:43,000 --> 02:27:03,000 Complete an assessment at both of the cities plants and they've come back with two very detailed reports and asset inventories including asset condition for us to then build our capital renewal program off of over the next 10 and up to 25 years. 1129 02:27:03,000 --> 02:27:23,000 A couple of highlights are that the at the wastewater treatment plants about almost half of the plants assets are determined to be in fair or better condition but also half of the plant assets are in poor or very poor condition and that's reflected with. 1130 02:27:23,000 --> 02:27:35,000 A proposal in the upcoming budget to complete renewal investments of eight million dollars in twenty twenty seven and then almost thirty million dollars in twenty thirty two. 1131 02:27:35,000 --> 02:27:48,000 At the water plants a little bit more sixty four percent of the plants asset was determined to be in a fair better condition with about thirty five percent of the assets in poor or very poor condition. 1132 02:27:48,000 --> 02:27:56,000 It's reflected in the upcoming budget proposals with about eight million dollars in twenty twenty twenty eight and then twenty two million dollars in twenty thirty four. 1133 02:27:56,000 --> 02:28:06,000 And so it was about a hundred and five million dollars over the next twenty five years total investment recommended by associated engineering to. 1134 02:28:06,000 --> 02:28:12,000 It's actually maintained the status quo for those two plants and keep them in operating condition. 1135 02:28:12,000 --> 02:28:18,000 So both reports have been attached to the agenda for council's consideration and. 1136 02:28:18,000 --> 02:28:21,000 Happy to take any questions if there are any. 1137 02:28:21,000 --> 02:28:25,000 Any questions council. 1138 02:28:25,000 --> 02:28:31,000 So that will come forward next week the next council meeting just to receive. 1139 02:28:31,000 --> 02:28:33,000 Okay, thank you. 1140 02:28:33,000 --> 02:28:42,000 Well, I guess you might as well keep going six point two point three agreements moved box regulations for sure. 1141 02:28:42,000 --> 02:28:44,000 Okay, thank you. 1142 02:28:44,000 --> 02:28:54,000 So the next report for council pertains to the city's recycling operations and the report is recommending that council. 1143 02:28:54,000 --> 02:28:59,000 Approose the execution of two recycling agreements. 1144 02:28:59,000 --> 02:29:19,000 One is a subcontracting agreement with GFL environmental for services related to curbside collection of recyclables for the next seven years with an option for three years of renewals and the other agreement is. 1145 02:29:19,000 --> 02:29:34,000 Is an operations agreement with circular materials to provide a deeper recycling services as we currently do for a term of three years and option to extend for three one year periods. 1146 02:29:34,000 --> 02:29:40,000 Subject to the ongoing operations circular materials has in the province. 1147 02:29:40,000 --> 02:29:43,000 As a recap for council. 1148 02:29:43,000 --> 02:29:55,000 Twenty twenty twenty twenty sixteen the province introduced the resource and recovery and circular economy act and began to adjust and in twenty twenty one adjusted. 1149 02:29:55,000 --> 02:30:00,000 The way that recyclables are handled and who pays for the processing of recyclable. 1150 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:22,000 Materials in Ontario. And so, starting in 2021, it became producers of recyclable materials responsibility to pay for the processing of that materials. That means the collection and the handling and the processing and the reuse and renewal of those materials to go back out in the community as new products. 1151 02:30:22,000 --> 02:30:47,000 Back in 2023, Council authorized the execution of a Master Services Agreement with Circular Materials for the City of Canora to continue to deliver services for a curbside collection, depo operation, and also some promotional and educational material distribution for a period of two and a half years, taking us to the end of 2025. 1152 02:30:47,000 --> 02:31:03,000 And while we were in that agreement with Circular Materials, the province went on or Circular Materials went on to complete procurement of a broader service delivery model. 1153 02:31:03,000 --> 02:31:13,000 And so, the province has been divided up into catchments and those catchments have been awarded to contractors to complete the recycling services. 1154 02:31:13,000 --> 02:31:23,000 And so, for the City of Canora, the contractor who has the contract for curbside collection is GFL environmental. 1155 02:31:23,000 --> 02:31:32,000 Now, that gave GFL environmental the option to come into the community and begin delivering that service if they wished. 1156 02:31:32,000 --> 02:31:52,000 But because we currently offer a combined service delivery for both recycling and garbage collection combined, we acting proactively engaged with GFL back in 2024 to see how we could partner with them to continue to offer the services that we currently do. 1157 02:31:52,000 --> 02:32:02,000 And so, through negotiations, I have a contract for Council to authorize that lets us do that continuously for the next seven and up to 10 years. 1158 02:32:02,000 --> 02:32:17,000 And really, the only changes that community members would see would be the incorporation of collection of recyclable materials from 95 gallon carts. 1159 02:32:17,000 --> 02:32:27,000 Similar to what you see in other municipalities in Ontario or other parts of the country, the big blue bins with the flip top lid and the wheels and the handles that people can bring to the curbside. 1160 02:32:27,000 --> 02:32:31,000 And we'll be loaded into the city's collection vehicles. 1161 02:32:31,000 --> 02:32:38,000 We will have to outfit our collection vehicles with a couple of cart tippers pretty minor. 1162 02:32:38,000 --> 02:32:49,000 But ultimately the contract allows us to continue providing the service preserve all of the positions related to doing that work as city staff. 1163 02:32:49,000 --> 02:33:05,000 And also provides revenue that ensures that the city is not subsidizing the recycling program and that the cost is truly being passed on to producers, which is consistent with the applicable legislation. 1164 02:33:05,000 --> 02:33:15,000 So that's one contract. The other contract is with to be with circular materials for the continued operation of our depot at the transfer station. 1165 02:33:15,000 --> 02:33:33,000 The execution of this agreement just allows the city to continue on as we have in the past there will be no noticeable difference for community members who are continuing to bring recyclable materials to the transfer station will continue to package those up and handle those and get those ready for processing. 1166 02:33:33,000 --> 02:33:43,000 And there is a revenue associated with that that similarly allows for when combined with the collection revenue. 1167 02:33:43,000 --> 02:33:49,000 The costs of recyclable handling recyclable materials to be passed back to producers. 1168 02:33:49,000 --> 02:33:56,000 So combined on an annual basis the revenue from those two programs is. 1169 02:33:56,000 --> 02:34:03,000 We've noted in the contracts to be seven hundred and eighty four thousand dollars per year. 1170 02:34:03,000 --> 02:34:17,000 But in the early part of twenty twenty six we will continue in existing relationship with GFL for the processing and transportation of materials to the Winnipeg recycling handling site. 1171 02:34:17,000 --> 02:34:25,000 Through that agreement probably you know two three months we will have some revenue coming in from GFL to continue on with our existing agreement with them. 1172 02:34:25,000 --> 02:34:33,000 So about a hundred and ten thousand dollars is forecasted for the early part of twenty twenty twenty six to continue on with that operation. 1173 02:34:33,000 --> 02:34:41,000 So I think that's kind of the overview and summary for council but if there's any questions council has about the agreements. 1174 02:34:41,000 --> 02:34:45,000 Yeah, so councilor caution and councilor Van Billion. 1175 02:34:45,000 --> 02:34:47,000 Thank you. 1176 02:34:47,000 --> 02:34:53,000 I'm wondering about the the ninety five gallon collection cards. 1177 02:34:53,000 --> 02:34:59,000 The cost of those and replacement of those for residents if necessary what that looks like. 1178 02:34:59,000 --> 02:35:09,000 So the cards are going to be distributed in December by GFL and it's not a city cost to provide the cards or to distribute them. 1179 02:35:09,000 --> 02:35:20,000 So people will receive those and then if there are any issues or replacements or things required in an ongoing basis all cart inquiries will be directed to GFL to deal with. 1180 02:35:20,000 --> 02:35:28,000 And community members will start to see communications coming out on that in the coming days we're just finalizing the material and just follow up to that. 1181 02:35:28,000 --> 02:35:33,000 Will it make sense do you think for us to explore a similar. 1182 02:35:33,000 --> 02:35:36,000 Collection cart for for garbage. 1183 02:35:36,000 --> 02:35:39,000 But we are starting down that path of this word. 1184 02:35:39,000 --> 02:35:40,000 Thank you. 1185 02:35:40,000 --> 02:35:45,000 I'll bring that to council one thread. 1186 02:35:45,000 --> 02:35:48,000 Yeah. 1187 02:35:48,000 --> 02:35:52,000 Councilor Van Billion. 1188 02:35:52,000 --> 02:35:59,000 I was wondering if you could also just elaborate I have to just elaborate on the glass curbside pickup. 1189 02:35:59,000 --> 02:36:07,000 And then I would find it helpful in the budget section on these reports if it was net revenues. 1190 02:36:07,000 --> 02:36:09,000 Oh yes, sorry. 1191 02:36:09,000 --> 02:36:22,000 Just not not just for your report like just in general I feel like that's a more accurate number of like what the actual cost. 1192 02:36:22,000 --> 02:36:28,000 So just a touch on glass so similar to the communication coming out on the carts. 1193 02:36:28,000 --> 02:36:39,000 Glass will become in 2026 recyclable at the curbside and we will have in the coming days information coming out to explain that to. 1194 02:36:39,000 --> 02:36:45,000 Curbside collection customers and then also when the carts are delivered in December. 1195 02:36:45,000 --> 02:36:56,000 There will be pamphlets included in all the carts that outline all of the materials that can be recycled and in terms of the financial question I will get an answer back to council. 1196 02:36:56,000 --> 02:37:00,000 As soon as I can. 1197 02:37:00,000 --> 02:37:02,000 Any other questions? 1198 02:37:02,000 --> 02:37:04,000 Councilor Bernie. 1199 02:37:04,000 --> 02:37:06,000 Thanks Greg for your reports. 1200 02:37:06,000 --> 02:37:12,000 I'm going to go back to I should have mentioned this earlier but I'm just going to go back to your infrastructure and operations report. 1201 02:37:12,000 --> 02:37:19,000 And I just wanted to bring bring up your section here about clean ups and vandalism. 1202 02:37:19,000 --> 02:37:22,000 And thank you very much for keeping track of this. 1203 02:37:22,000 --> 02:37:27,000 I mean we talked about that before and putting a dollar value to it and maybe you can comment on this. 1204 02:37:27,000 --> 02:37:30,000 And really I'd like to just bring this up. 1205 02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:37,000 I seem to be beating this drama all the time but I think it's something that the public is very aware of in the public needs to know. 1206 02:37:37,000 --> 02:37:44,000 You mentioned here in your report that the costs in this quarter doubled the year to date costs. 1207 02:37:44,000 --> 02:37:48,000 So we're looking we're at total bringing the total for 2025. 1208 02:37:48,000 --> 02:37:52,000 This is for clean ups and vandalism to 20,000 just shy of 20,000 dollars. 1209 02:37:52,000 --> 02:37:55,000 And you have some pictures here you shared. 1210 02:37:55,000 --> 02:37:57,000 The sanitoff is vandalized. 1211 02:37:57,000 --> 02:38:02,000 There's a there's a bus stop that the glass was smashed out of it. 1212 02:38:02,000 --> 02:38:06,000 And then this is all available for the for the public if they want to look at the minutes. 1213 02:38:06,000 --> 02:38:08,000 And then there's some clean up here. 1214 02:38:08,000 --> 02:38:12,000 I don't know these areas in a a witted area where it's just looks like a garbage dump. 1215 02:38:12,000 --> 02:38:18,000 So you know you're you're you're doing you and your staff are certainly doing the best they can this is a thankless job. 1216 02:38:18,000 --> 02:38:29,000 I mean the garbage pick up all the work that they do and and I've heard before that it's it's frustrating because you just clean up one area and you come back wait hours later sometimes. 1217 02:38:29,000 --> 02:38:38,000 And it's it's there's garbage there again it's re vandalized so maybe you can just comment on that and I just want to say this is why. 1218 02:38:38,000 --> 02:38:45,000 It's so important for us to be talking about community based crime prevention initiatives. 1219 02:38:45,000 --> 02:38:57,000 We talk about you know a police presence targeted patrol and I know our community safety will be coordinator is going to be delivering report later on. 1220 02:38:57,000 --> 02:39:03,000 Perhaps addressing this but I believe that it's really you know something that. 1221 02:39:03,000 --> 02:39:08,000 It's it's it's the fact that it's doubled is concerning to me. 1222 02:39:08,000 --> 02:39:17,000 I mean $20,000 in sort of the scope or the context of what we've been talking about our millions of dollars for our wastewater and our infrastructure is maybe. 1223 02:39:17,000 --> 02:39:19,000 Maybe small but. 1224 02:39:19,000 --> 02:39:29,000 I think it has a great impact on on the public's perception of our our community and you know my as a show this is beautiful website she's done trying to portray our community. 1225 02:39:29,000 --> 02:39:42,000 In the best light possible but anyway that's another conversation but can you just comment on that drag about just maybe the ongoing sort of work that you and your staff do and and is there's something that you can. 1226 02:39:42,000 --> 02:39:47,000 You know point to regarding this trend is this this increase. 1227 02:39:47,000 --> 02:39:49,000 You know I think. 1228 02:39:49,000 --> 02:39:53,000 The staff works so hard to to. 1229 02:39:53,000 --> 02:40:05,000 Trying to keep our community clean and warm and welcoming and inviting and you're you're absolutely right it is a thankless job because there are there are many days where. 1230 02:40:05,000 --> 02:40:10,000 The area that they've just cleaned and beautified. 1231 02:40:10,000 --> 02:40:16,000 It is ransacked again shortly thereafter same same day and so. 1232 02:40:16,000 --> 02:40:25,000 It's a it's a really tough and thankless position and have a lot of empathy for the team to continue to go back and work as hard as they do to. 1233 02:40:25,000 --> 02:40:34,000 You know trying to try to deliver a nice place for people to come and visit and engage and gather in our community so. 1234 02:40:34,000 --> 02:40:36,000 You know. 1235 02:40:36,000 --> 02:40:45,000 I think that we're we're just we're starting to become more attentive to also all of the outline areas where we're seeing these types of things happen and so. 1236 02:40:45,000 --> 02:40:51,000 Putting the pictures for some of the wooden areas into the report was actually on purpose just to try and share. 1237 02:40:51,000 --> 02:41:07,000 The level of effort it takes takes to deal with this and sometimes it's not seen to the greater community it's only a small subset who maybe you know hike through a particular trail through town and come across that. 1238 02:41:07,000 --> 02:41:22,000 The community safety and well being plan is 100% tied to trying to correct this issue and I think that you know also groups like the net team and trying to activate our community spaces is is so important. 1239 02:41:22,000 --> 02:41:33,000 On top of thinking about our future projects and designing with you know visibility and open space concept. 1240 02:41:33,000 --> 02:41:46,000 Safety and sight lines in mind to try and prevent as much as as much as we can but yeah it's a huge effort and you know I'm really I'm really proud of the team for the work that they put in every day trying to keep the community clean. 1241 02:41:46,000 --> 02:41:52,000 Well thanks I just wanted to bring that up because your hard work certainly hasn't gone on notice and we all appreciate I certainly appreciate it. 1242 02:41:52,000 --> 02:41:57,000 I just want the public to know that for for us for me certainly this is a priority. 1243 02:41:57,000 --> 02:42:03,000 And there are steps being taken to to your point to address this it's a big shift to turn. 1244 02:42:03,000 --> 02:42:18,000 But it is certainly still as a priority and there are other tables where we're having conversations about accountability you know criminal code charges various other factors in the community that contribute to this kind of thing. 1245 02:42:18,000 --> 02:42:23,000 And it's still top priority so thanks for commenting on that great appreciate. 1246 02:42:23,000 --> 02:42:26,000 Thanks Mer. Thank you. 1247 02:42:26,000 --> 02:42:31,000 So there's no other questions I think. 1248 02:42:31,000 --> 02:42:41,000 I think you're done and and thanks for the patience I know you've been kind of chomping at the bed they get this done so you could so you could leave so. 1249 02:42:41,000 --> 02:42:44,000 Anyway safe travels. 1250 02:42:44,000 --> 02:42:46,000 Thank you. 1251 02:42:46,000 --> 02:42:58,000 So we're going to shift back up to under report six point one planning building services we have six point one point one we have a committee of adjustment and property standards committee. 1252 02:42:58,000 --> 02:43:00,000 Director. 1253 02:43:00,000 --> 02:43:02,000 I think you're your worship. 1254 02:43:02,000 --> 02:43:15,000 So the committee of adjustment and the property standards committee we're proposing new terms of reference for both of these committees. 1255 02:43:15,000 --> 02:43:23,000 This initiative seems to have been around for far too long to get go over some of the history. 1256 02:43:23,000 --> 02:43:36,000 Some procedural issues were identified last year for specifically the terms of reference for the committee of adjustment which was previously the planning advisory committee. 1257 02:43:36,000 --> 02:43:45,000 In the spring of 2025 council did approve updates to the terms of reference for these two committees. 1258 02:43:45,000 --> 02:44:00,000 But at that time asked count asked administration to take the terms of reference away again and you a thorough review because what we had done previously was just update what we had. 1259 02:44:00,000 --> 02:44:15,000 And so we did a thorough review and we're proposing two separate by laws it is still the same committee people but two very different roles and so. 1260 02:44:15,000 --> 02:44:29,000 They should have different terms of reference for when they're following if they're doing a hearing for property standards appeal is much different process and procedure than if they're doing. 1261 02:44:29,000 --> 02:44:37,000 The committee of adjustment duties under the planning act so what this does is really separate the two out. 1262 02:44:37,000 --> 02:44:44,000 It provides terms of reference for each committee. 1263 02:44:44,000 --> 02:44:57,000 Just for council's knowledge property standard appeal hearings are rare whereas the committee of adjustment typically meets monthly to do with planning applications. 1264 02:44:57,000 --> 02:44:59,000 So the. 1265 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:12,000 Property standards committee would sit only as necessary, and it may or may not be part of a regularly scheduled committee of adjustment meeting. 1266 02:45:12,000 --> 02:45:26,000 So we have provided you with the two bylaws and recommend that three readings be given to each of those bylaws, 1267 02:45:26,000 --> 02:45:40,000 next regular meeting of council and that bylaws 18, 20, 25, be repealed. 1268 02:45:40,000 --> 02:45:50,000 Any questions of Director Pregile on those of those amendments? 1269 02:45:50,000 --> 02:46:04,000 Okay. Thank you. So I'd like to move on to 6.1.2 sign variance request 534 Park Street. 1270 02:46:04,000 --> 02:46:17,000 So the planning department has received a application for a sign variance and it falls within council's purview to grant variances to the sign bylaw. 1271 02:46:17,000 --> 02:46:28,000 So the sign in particular, that is being applied for, is for a business that will be located at 534 Park Street, which is within the canoar shopping mall. 1272 02:46:28,000 --> 02:46:37,000 The business is sessions cannabis and they are asking for three variances under the sign bylaw. 1273 02:46:37,000 --> 02:46:48,000 First, that the maximum area of the sign be increased to of 2.34 square meters. 1274 02:46:48,000 --> 02:47:02,000 That the vertical dimension of the sign be increased by 0.4 meters and that the lighting for the sign that it would be a facelift illuminated sign. 1275 02:47:02,000 --> 02:47:12,000 So the rationale for these variances, this is, I guess the lighting is lighting in context. 1276 02:47:12,000 --> 02:47:22,000 So in Harvard Town Center, we are not permitted to have backlit signs, so illuminated lettering in this case. 1277 02:47:22,000 --> 02:47:38,000 This is, this change has been quite successful in our main street, second, second street area where, which is our pedestrian focus of downtown. 1278 02:47:38,000 --> 02:47:46,000 All of the businesses in the shopping mall have backlit signs presently, so this is not a departure from the other businesses. 1279 02:47:46,000 --> 02:47:59,000 It's also a very different nature because these businesses are set back very far from the street with a large parking lot in between. 1280 02:47:59,000 --> 02:48:03,000 It's a different field than our main street. 1281 02:48:03,000 --> 02:48:11,000 So that's the rationale behind asking for illuminated signs, also the sizing of the signs. 1282 02:48:11,000 --> 02:48:21,000 In the shopping mall, all of the signs are contained within a strip at the top of the building. 1283 02:48:21,000 --> 02:48:28,000 The proposed variances is not, is in keeping with other businesses. 1284 02:48:28,000 --> 02:48:46,000 I did include imagery in the report that shows the little Caesars sign, which covers the entire, pretty much the height is the same as the strip. 1285 02:48:46,000 --> 02:48:52,000 This one would not be that high. 1286 02:48:52,000 --> 02:49:03,000 So what we're looking for is the Council's approval of these variances to sign by one, one, five, twenty, ten. 1287 02:49:03,000 --> 02:49:14,000 Seeking relief from section 8.1 to a and table e, which permits only non-aluminated or externally illuminated signage within Harvard Town Center. 1288 02:49:14,000 --> 02:49:29,000 And limits the size of all signs to 0.8 meters vertical height in an area of 0.5 meters squared per linear meter of wall, or which 10 meters, which is lesser. 1289 02:49:29,000 --> 02:49:32,000 Thank you. 1290 02:49:32,000 --> 02:49:43,000 I just am wondering that given the entire area, has now essentially asked for a variance, is it a value to maybe update our sign. 1291 02:49:43,000 --> 02:49:48,000 If you have a real need to follow the rule, is there a point in having the rule? 1292 02:49:48,000 --> 02:49:51,000 This was a lot of procedural work. 1293 02:49:51,000 --> 02:49:55,000 My team is reviewing the sign by presently. 1294 02:49:55,000 --> 02:49:59,000 It is a 2010 by law, so it is quite dated. 1295 02:49:59,000 --> 02:50:08,000 It is also extremely complicated, so we are trying to simplify that. 1296 02:50:08,000 --> 02:50:14,000 And that will be coming forward to Council when it's complete. 1297 02:50:14,000 --> 02:50:27,000 But we do have a review team that includes the building department that is currently reviews the sign permits, as well as the planning department and by law enforcement. 1298 02:50:27,000 --> 02:50:33,000 So they're working together towards updating that particular by law. 1299 02:50:33,000 --> 02:50:36,000 And it will come back to you. 1300 02:50:37,000 --> 02:50:39,000 Thank you. 1301 02:50:39,000 --> 02:50:42,000 Council. 1302 02:50:42,000 --> 02:50:47,000 So what you're saying is first and second street can't have backlit. 1303 02:50:47,000 --> 02:50:49,000 Put them all can. 1304 02:50:49,000 --> 02:50:50,000 All of the variants. 1305 02:50:50,000 --> 02:51:00,000 All of Harvard Town Center has that prohibition that they're not to be granted backlit signs. 1306 02:51:00,000 --> 02:51:04,000 That came in existing signs have been grandfathered in. 1307 02:51:04,000 --> 02:51:14,000 So if someone comes in and asks to replace the plastic with the letters on it but keep the same sign. 1308 02:51:14,000 --> 02:51:23,000 So there still are some signs on Main Street that have not been replaced with non-aluminated signs. 1309 02:51:23,000 --> 02:51:27,000 But for the most part there has been quite a lot of uptake. 1310 02:51:27,000 --> 02:51:31,000 We also support through our CIP program. 1311 02:51:31,000 --> 02:51:40,000 There's financial incentives to modernize your signs and have them in keeping with the look and feel that we're looking for in those areas. 1312 02:51:40,000 --> 02:51:43,000 But that is a blanket coverage for all of Harvard Town Center. 1313 02:51:43,000 --> 02:51:50,000 So in order for the properties at the mall to have a backlit sign. 1314 02:51:50,000 --> 02:51:55,000 That's different from just replacing the face. 1315 02:51:55,000 --> 02:52:05,000 They wouldn't need a variance. 1316 02:52:05,000 --> 02:52:08,000 Any other questions of council issues? 1317 02:52:08,000 --> 02:52:09,000 Thank you. 1318 02:52:09,000 --> 02:52:10,000 Thank you. 1319 02:52:10,000 --> 02:52:12,000 You're just for a clarification. 1320 02:52:12,000 --> 02:52:19,000 The proposed sign design is consistent with the existing signs in terms of the way it's lit in terms of the other mall. 1321 02:52:19,000 --> 02:52:22,000 Patrons are not patrons but tenants. 1322 02:52:22,000 --> 02:52:30,000 Like little Caesars each individual letter is a sign and it's illuminated from behind. 1323 02:52:30,000 --> 02:52:44,000 So drive test which is also illustrated in this report shows a different type of sign where the letters are painted on an illuminated panel. 1324 02:52:44,000 --> 02:52:51,000 So dollarama also in the mall has similar type letter channel letters. 1325 02:52:51,000 --> 02:53:00,000 So it is both types are in the mall but this channel lettering is more calm than I would say. 1326 02:53:00,000 --> 02:53:01,000 Okay. 1327 02:53:01,000 --> 02:53:03,000 Thank you for clarifying. 1328 02:53:03,000 --> 02:53:06,000 Any other questions of Dr. Miguel? 1329 02:53:06,000 --> 02:53:07,000 No. 1330 02:53:07,000 --> 02:53:09,000 Thank you. 1331 02:53:09,000 --> 02:53:14,000 So if we would like to move on to 6.1.3. 1332 02:53:14,000 --> 02:53:18,000 Planning building Q3 report. 1333 02:53:18,000 --> 02:53:20,000 Thank you, Your Worship. 1334 02:53:21,000 --> 02:53:23,000 So Q3. 1335 02:53:23,000 --> 02:53:36,000 Q3 has been busy for a busy mostly for a building department as one would expect it being the tail end of summer. 1336 02:53:36,000 --> 02:53:46,000 We have seen a lot of permits issued a lot of construction activity taking place. 1337 02:53:46,000 --> 02:53:54,000 At the end of the report, I do have a summary of our annual permit activity by month. 1338 02:53:54,000 --> 02:54:10,000 So you can see that already by the end of September we have exceeded the amount of building activity for all of when comparing to all of 2024. 1339 02:54:10,000 --> 02:54:28,000 So in the first nine months of 2025 we have seen work valued at 76 million dollars worth of improvements and new buildings to buildings in the canora area. 1340 02:54:28,000 --> 02:54:34,000 So that that is a success story from from our point of view. 1341 02:54:34,000 --> 02:54:38,000 We are seeing some of the highlights. 1342 02:54:38,000 --> 02:54:57,000 I do have a picture of the one of the buildings that is under construction on a lot of 15 which was part of the mill property. 1343 02:54:57,000 --> 02:55:05,000 So not everyone would have would see this building because it's tucked away behind the armories up on that hill. 1344 02:55:05,000 --> 02:55:14,000 So there is a picture in the Q3 report showing that building that is a 24 unit affordable housing project. 1345 02:55:14,000 --> 02:55:23,000 Some of the other high profile developments that you will see when you are driving around canora. 1346 02:55:23,000 --> 02:55:30,000 Windhacks building is going up and that will make a huge difference to our downtown. 1347 02:55:30,000 --> 02:55:40,000 Also the canora that clinic is working on their foundation out on the west highway. 1348 02:55:40,000 --> 02:55:45,000 There is a new foundation for a commercial laundry that is coming up. 1349 02:55:45,000 --> 02:55:53,000 So we are seeing signs of progress within the region. 1350 02:55:53,000 --> 02:56:01,000 I also wanted to draw your attention to our new secondary dwelling unit guide. 1351 02:56:01,000 --> 02:56:17,000 This has been a project that planning and building have been working together on and it is a resource for homeowners who are interested in putting secondary dwellings on their properties. 1352 02:56:17,000 --> 02:56:28,000 And helping them navigate the new rules and trying to facilitate that gentle infill of our city. 1353 02:56:28,000 --> 02:56:32,000 So that will be available on our website. 1354 02:56:32,000 --> 02:56:37,000 And we also included a copy for council. 1355 02:56:37,000 --> 02:56:41,000 I believe it's with our development services report later. 1356 02:56:41,000 --> 02:56:51,000 We also had water quality monitoring complete for blacksturgine lake and the Atlantic clean bill of health. 1357 02:56:51,000 --> 02:56:56,000 So I'd be happy to answer any questions. 1358 02:56:56,000 --> 02:56:57,000 Any questions council? 1359 02:56:57,000 --> 02:56:58,000 No. 1360 02:56:58,000 --> 02:56:59,000 Okay. 1361 02:56:59,000 --> 02:57:04,000 Thank you very much. 1362 02:57:05,000 --> 02:57:10,000 So chief Howard is away this week. 1363 02:57:10,000 --> 02:57:14,000 So his two reports I'm happy to speak to both of them. 1364 02:57:14,000 --> 02:57:17,000 If you'd like to move on to fire and emergency services. 1365 02:57:17,000 --> 02:57:20,000 Yeah, why don't we, why don't we deal with those? 1366 02:57:20,000 --> 02:57:22,000 Yeah, and then you can break. 1367 02:57:22,000 --> 02:57:23,000 Sure. 1368 02:57:23,000 --> 02:57:24,000 Okay. 1369 02:57:24,000 --> 02:57:26,000 Sure. 1370 02:57:26,000 --> 02:57:28,000 Sure. 1371 02:57:29,000 --> 02:57:32,000 Yeah, if you wish. 1372 02:57:32,000 --> 02:57:34,000 All right. 1373 02:57:34,000 --> 02:57:39,000 Well, why don't we, why don't we go around and do that around the table. 1374 02:57:39,000 --> 02:57:42,000 And then, but maybe provide an opportunity for council. 1375 02:57:42,000 --> 02:57:46,000 Moncreate when she reemerges in the meeting. 1376 02:57:46,000 --> 02:57:47,000 That's all. 1377 02:57:47,000 --> 02:57:48,000 Okay. 1378 02:57:48,000 --> 02:57:49,000 Okay. 1379 02:57:49,000 --> 02:57:50,000 Okay. 1380 02:57:50,000 --> 02:57:52,000 Okay. 1381 02:57:53,000 --> 02:57:57,000 Okay. 1382 02:57:57,000 --> 02:58:02,000 Hi. 1383 02:58:02,000 --> 02:58:04,000 Okay. 1384 02:58:04,000 --> 02:58:06,000 Okay. 1385 02:58:06,000 --> 02:58:07,000 Okay. 1386 02:58:07,000 --> 02:58:08,000 Okay. 1387 02:58:08,000 --> 02:58:09,000 Okay. 1388 02:58:09,000 --> 02:58:11,000 Okay. 1389 02:58:11,000 --> 02:58:13,000 All right. 1390 02:58:13,000 --> 02:58:14,000 Let's go. 1391 02:58:14,000 --> 02:58:15,000 Okay. 1392 02:58:15,000 --> 02:58:20,840 concerns issues and concerns are for the hybrid yeah for the 1393 02:58:20,840 --> 02:58:24,360 noses it's it's considering the nose of motion 1394 02:58:24,360 --> 02:58:30,160 the harbour towns owning amendments so we are we are looking at 1395 02:58:30,160 --> 02:58:36,600 simple pose changes to our zoning bylaw to address concerns in 1396 02:58:36,600 --> 02:58:41,680 the harbour town center what we are hearing what we heard through our outreach 1397 02:58:41,680 --> 02:58:50,000 a real desire to re-energize our down town keeping with the retail 1398 02:58:50,000 --> 02:59:05,280 focus and really looking at place making and creating a retail space that 1399 02:59:05,280 --> 02:59:12,360 attracts people and activities and business and making that a real commerce 1400 02:59:12,360 --> 02:59:20,320 help so we are looking at ways that we can change our zoning and to preserve 1401 02:59:20,320 --> 02:59:25,880 that focus of downtown so we'll be getting more detail you go on that a lot 1402 02:59:25,880 --> 02:59:30,600 of that is going to come forward through the zoning amendments so right now we 1403 02:59:30,600 --> 02:59:37,320 are working with our consultants on finalizing the official plan that gives us 1404 02:59:37,320 --> 02:59:43,440 the foundation but in background my team is working on going through the zoning 1405 02:59:43,440 --> 02:59:50,680 bylaw from beginning to end and it'll be in compliance with the new official plan 1406 02:59:50,680 --> 02:59:56,280 but also looking at a lot of a lot of changes are going to be proposed for the 1407 02:59:56,280 --> 03:00:00,040 zoning bylaw yeah I just want because I just mind on the motion map 1408 03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:15,000 It was concerning, I think, even talked about commercial special zones, looked at some other communities with an emphasis, I mean, the point is an emphasis on retail and a vibrant business, you know, vibrant businesses in the downtown core. 1409 03:00:15,000 --> 03:00:25,000 So I just wanted to note that for the public's information, because I've had people cop to you and ask me about that. 1410 03:00:25,000 --> 03:00:28,000 I'm sure we've all got most questions about what's going on. 1411 03:00:28,000 --> 03:00:38,000 As we see more services in the downtown core, less businesses and more services, I would say, people are concerned. 1412 03:00:38,000 --> 03:00:43,000 And that was my concern, hence the motion. 1413 03:00:43,000 --> 03:00:45,000 So thanks for the update, Dan. 1414 03:00:45,000 --> 03:00:48,000 We'll look forward to hearing about your progress. 1415 03:00:48,000 --> 03:00:50,000 Thanks. 1416 03:00:50,000 --> 03:00:51,000 Thanks, man. 1417 03:00:51,000 --> 03:00:52,000 Thank you. 1418 03:00:52,000 --> 03:01:05,000 So we are going to move over to 6.5 corporate services, finance, human resources, and we will begin with 6.5.1. 1419 03:01:05,000 --> 03:01:08,000 So we have council committee, work update. 1420 03:01:08,000 --> 03:01:13,000 So, depending on how long, those that may be all start over to my reach. 1421 03:01:13,000 --> 03:01:18,000 So we can get the councilor at Belly now, before she has to. 1422 03:01:19,000 --> 03:01:22,000 So I'll start the councilor. 1423 03:01:22,000 --> 03:01:23,000 Matt's in place. 1424 03:01:23,000 --> 03:01:24,000 I'll be really quick. 1425 03:01:24,000 --> 03:01:29,000 I just want to remind everybody that Friday is the main street tree lighting. 1426 03:01:29,000 --> 03:01:33,000 And on Sunday is Q8 is tree lighting. 1427 03:01:33,000 --> 03:01:36,000 And on the 29th, we have festival trees. 1428 03:01:36,000 --> 03:01:38,000 And I think they're pretty well sold out. 1429 03:01:38,000 --> 03:01:41,000 And then the kinsman parade on the same night. 1430 03:01:42,000 --> 03:01:46,000 Okay. 1431 03:01:46,000 --> 03:01:47,000 Okay. 1432 03:01:47,000 --> 03:01:48,000 Thank you. 1433 03:01:48,000 --> 03:01:49,000 Okay. 1434 03:01:49,000 --> 03:01:51,000 So I'll start with last week. 1435 03:01:51,000 --> 03:01:53,000 I attended the joint. 1436 03:01:53,000 --> 03:01:54,000 Polyps. 1437 03:01:54,000 --> 03:01:59,000 Ontario Association of Police Service Sports and Ontario Association of Chiefs of Police. 1438 03:01:59,000 --> 03:02:00,000 Fall Meeting. 1439 03:02:00,000 --> 03:02:06,000 The major themes is across police services and municipal representatives for housing. 1440 03:02:06,000 --> 03:02:07,000 Recruitment pressure. 1441 03:02:07,000 --> 03:02:09,000 This is like, you know, everywhere. 1442 03:02:09,000 --> 03:02:13,000 And the ongoing challenges related to the transition to the new community safety 1443 03:02:13,000 --> 03:02:15,000 and policing act. 1444 03:02:15,000 --> 03:02:18,000 And one part that I'm sort of interested around is naps. 1445 03:02:18,000 --> 03:02:19,000 Nishinabi. 1446 03:02:19,000 --> 03:02:20,000 Aski. 1447 03:02:20,000 --> 03:02:21,000 Naked. 1448 03:02:21,000 --> 03:02:23,000 Plesing services. 1449 03:02:23,000 --> 03:02:27,000 Has joined the community safety policing act. 1450 03:02:27,000 --> 03:02:30,000 Which means they are only. 1451 03:02:30,000 --> 03:02:33,000 Going to be like a provincial police force essentially. 1452 03:02:33,000 --> 03:02:38,000 So that federal provincial funding agreement that we have with like 233 does not apply 1453 03:02:38,000 --> 03:02:39,000 enough. 1454 03:02:39,000 --> 03:02:42,000 But it means that they have to adhere to the CSPA. 1455 03:02:42,000 --> 03:02:44,000 So they're going through that transition right now. 1456 03:02:44,000 --> 03:02:46,000 But it's something that I'm sort of watching. 1457 03:02:46,000 --> 03:02:48,000 They were talking about. 1458 03:02:48,000 --> 03:02:54,000 As I know we've seen funding challenges here with having agreements between those two levels of government. 1459 03:02:54,000 --> 03:02:56,000 Regarding 33. 1460 03:02:56,000 --> 03:02:59,000 So there's multiple presenters. 1461 03:02:59,000 --> 03:03:01,000 And then there was a. 1462 03:03:01,000 --> 03:03:03,000 Not surprisingly. 1463 03:03:04,000 --> 03:03:11,000 The significant conversation around the increasing demands being placed on police services due to social issues rather than strictly criminal matters. 1464 03:03:11,000 --> 03:03:18,000 So a number of speakers emphasize the widening gap between community expectations and police resources. 1465 03:03:18,000 --> 03:03:21,000 And we've seen this here obviously. 1466 03:03:21,000 --> 03:03:26,000 And even some things recently, which include the strain caused by court security requirements. 1467 03:03:26,000 --> 03:03:31,000 So now the police are being required to provide security to the courts. 1468 03:03:31,000 --> 03:03:37,000 We're already seeing extreme staffing challenges in many community. 1469 03:03:37,000 --> 03:03:41,000 And then the need for improved coordination between social services and policing. 1470 03:03:41,000 --> 03:03:47,000 Minister Kersner joined remotely and asked for questions. 1471 03:03:47,000 --> 03:03:52,000 So we took my option. 1472 03:03:52,000 --> 03:03:54,000 I was in. 1473 03:03:54,000 --> 03:03:57,000 And she was like, I think your bears coming tomorrow. 1474 03:03:57,000 --> 03:04:00,000 I was like that man hates to see me coming. 1475 03:04:00,000 --> 03:04:06,000 But I one thing I did highlight with him is just one of the data points that we're seeing. 1476 03:04:06,000 --> 03:04:08,000 At in the. 1477 03:04:08,000 --> 03:04:15,000 Knero OPP detachment board is the significant year over year increase in youth interactions with police in Knera. 1478 03:04:15,000 --> 03:04:24,000 And highlighting it again, the provincial leadership needed to support upstream solutions, particularly in areas outside the municipal jurisdiction. 1479 03:04:24,000 --> 03:04:30,000 And emphasize sort of like our community safety well being planned in our committee and the implication committee and the coordinator. 1480 03:04:30,000 --> 03:04:38,000 And how there's so much of that work that is outside of our purview and needs to be crossmen that is dearly funded again. 1481 03:04:38,000 --> 03:04:43,000 And I did follow up with a email to him and his policy. 1482 03:04:43,000 --> 03:04:47,000 Staff member who was on the call as well. 1483 03:04:47,000 --> 03:04:53,000 So overall the meeting highlighted the need for a continue advocacy on recruitment sustainable funding and stronger provincial partnerships. 1484 03:04:53,000 --> 03:05:02,000 Especially when it came to supporting formal level youth and relieving police services of responsibilities better suited to community and health partners. 1485 03:05:02,000 --> 03:05:09,000 One, we were able to hear the last one was from the executive executive director of the municipal chiefs of police. 1486 03:05:09,000 --> 03:05:12,000 No, Manitoba chiefs of police. 1487 03:05:12,000 --> 03:05:22,000 And they are having a lot of success redirecting the funds that policing are receiving. 1488 03:05:22,000 --> 03:05:30,000 Because they're seeing increased pressures on their demands because essentially we are using the police as the response team for everything at this point obviously. 1489 03:05:30,000 --> 03:05:35,000 And so they in Manitoba what they're doing is increasing there we wrote it down. 1490 03:05:35,000 --> 03:05:43,000 They've increased it like a hundred mental health support workers who go on calls with police. 1491 03:05:43,000 --> 03:05:56,000 And then work through those models so it's more focused on making sure that they're redirecting the funding from policing to social services to health care to housing to the areas to sort of prevent the strains that they're seeing. 1492 03:05:56,000 --> 03:05:59,000 So we did offer to join Manitoba again. 1493 03:05:59,000 --> 03:06:02,000 No, I don't know if I had the authority to do that. 1494 03:06:02,000 --> 03:06:10,000 At that meeting, but it's something that I think that we're really seeing is we do have good relationships amongst our. 1495 03:06:10,000 --> 03:06:20,000 People have relationships or whatever, but if there's not like any policy framework to sort of solidify how this all works together then we're going to keep seeing this. 1496 03:06:20,000 --> 03:06:30,000 Overreliance on police for issues that they can't solve they're just going to be reacting that's what their job is it's a reactionary service it's there for emergencies and. 1497 03:06:30,000 --> 03:06:44,000 It's being overburden because we've underfunded all of the upstream measures that are putting us in are this situation so just also to highlight so our can our OPP detachment board was canceled for November just excuse me. 1498 03:06:44,000 --> 03:06:46,000 Our detachment commanders are away. 1499 03:06:46,000 --> 03:06:57,000 So we will meet again in January we'll have our elections in January Tom Jervé is going to join the meeting to discuss the. 1500 03:06:57,000 --> 03:07:00,000 Oreg and then we'll. 1501 03:07:00,000 --> 03:07:15,000 I have a lot of things on the agenda we're probably not just for the past some of it off we'll have to update our we'll have to do our detachment commander review and we got a couple questions we need to address as well and then. 1502 03:07:16,000 --> 03:07:18,000 We also had our accessibility advisory committee. 1503 03:07:18,000 --> 03:07:30,000 I just wanted to highlight some of the the way that this committee is working is we're really focusing on as you sort of saw with the website design is integrating accessibility features into. 1504 03:07:30,000 --> 03:07:36,000 How we are creating new spaces for city of canor projects so. 1505 03:07:36,000 --> 03:07:55,000 We did talk about the walking tracks slow praise issues at the city of canora rexenter or sorry, Moncreef construction sports center highlighted just the sports center temporary entry there is a ramp there and then they do have a. 1506 03:07:55,000 --> 03:08:10,000 Like a chair to sort of get down the queueing elevator project is underway that's to get you to the main viewing area or the main floor to the viewing area and that will be. 1507 03:08:10,000 --> 03:08:13,000 The final is in the spring I think it was. 1508 03:08:13,000 --> 03:08:24,000 Railways street face for we will be brought back in to sort of discuss sidewalk and. 1509 03:08:24,000 --> 03:08:30,000 Res area integrations. 1510 03:08:30,000 --> 03:08:34,000 Some active transportation updates norm and park docking plan. 1511 03:08:34,000 --> 03:08:43,000 I'll highlight this one so the Norman there is a plan to put in dogs at the Norman park they are just waiting for hospital dogs. 1512 03:08:44,000 --> 03:08:51,000 To be finalized and then works should be started soon but it's just going to be connected to the grass right now. 1513 03:08:51,000 --> 03:09:04,000 But it is something that is on our mind that we will be connecting it to the surface area once the docks are installed so it's just I have I just wanted to highlight like we're getting all of these projects what the goal is of. 1514 03:09:05,000 --> 03:09:12,000 What are they called now engineering no operations and infrastructure thank you. 1515 03:09:12,000 --> 03:09:27,000 Is to make sure that the communities being brought in at the 30% design face to call out those things that are you know we only know what we know and then we are already working on a national accessibility. 1516 03:09:28,000 --> 03:09:45,000 We plan so we did the flag last year as you all remember that the schools did the contest for and there's a lot of great submissions but thanks to director for your quick response we are going to go in a community wide. 1517 03:09:46,000 --> 03:10:00,000 Direction this year and so we're looking at probably doing a sticker contest to get people design stickers for highlighting national accessibility week because there's a big uptick with the like community. 1518 03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:12,000 What are they called like the poll like those Chris yeah the banners the banners and those are such a huge success so we're thinking rather than having something that replaces that flag every year. 1519 03:10:13,000 --> 03:10:17,000 That's all I got that's all I'm doing. 1520 03:10:19,000 --> 03:10:21,000 I want to just keep going that. 1521 03:10:22,000 --> 03:10:23,000 Council. 1522 03:10:24,000 --> 03:10:26,000 Just a couple of quick updates. 1523 03:10:27,000 --> 03:10:41,000 I think I gave an update on my on the business committee a while ago we have met since but the overwhelming concern in addition to just the business of the business of the projects that local businesses are supporting was downtown communities downtown safety. 1524 03:10:42,000 --> 03:10:57,000 And I mean director brain is report and I talked about the bandalism it's they go hand in hand I think these two issues so it's it's it's a concern for local businesses for sure one of the things that was it was. 1525 03:10:58,000 --> 03:11:09,000 It was impressed on me is the safety the feeling of of being unsafe for staff closing up businesses at five o'clock five thirty. 1526 03:11:09,000 --> 03:11:25,000 Oftentimes female staff young staff that are in being tasked with closing businesses up and feeling unsafe walking to vehicles after so this is something that I really think that we can we can address and. 1527 03:11:25,000 --> 03:11:36,000 I mean we'll have this conversation in another table but you know it's it's it's it's a real dichotomy I feel we're trying to attract business to the downtown core. 1528 03:11:37,000 --> 03:11:46,000 We're we're doing you know we're trying to as I said track business we're doing events in the downtown core yet the people that are working in the downtown core don't feel safe. 1529 03:11:46,000 --> 03:11:55,000 You don't feel safe in the morning going to to the to their businesses in darkness and they don't feel safe closing up at night so it's an issue that I intend to. 1530 03:11:56,000 --> 03:11:58,000 To certainly fly again and I know. 1531 03:11:59,000 --> 03:12:04,000 Possibly bring up bring up with with OPP command staff here in canara because I know. 1532 03:12:04,000 --> 03:12:22,000 There are targeted patrols that are done each day school zones are just a given officers and cruises will go out and I'll do school patrol in the morning and there's even a dark code for a daily activity report code for school patrol so I'm hoping that this can be done. 1533 03:12:22,000 --> 03:12:32,000 Perhaps it was suggested for 30 to 530 whatever to do patrol in the downtown core because it's really it's an unacceptable situation where. 1534 03:12:33,000 --> 03:12:37,000 Where business staff business owners as I say sometimes young. 1535 03:12:38,000 --> 03:12:48,000 Female staff or you know teenage staff or it are are feeling unsafe because they're closing businesses up in the dark now that we've you know the time changes happen and we're into the following winter. 1536 03:12:48,000 --> 03:12:53,000 So hopefully that can be addressed but that was a major concern that was addressed during the the business meeting. 1537 03:12:54,000 --> 03:12:59,000 The the Northwestern health unit we have a meeting on Monday actually so. 1538 03:13:00,000 --> 03:13:07,000 I don't really have a lot to update but we did get an update that the office in soon arrows is going to be closed. 1539 03:13:08,000 --> 03:13:14,000 I believe the notice was in the new year the office in soon arrows is going to be closed and it was for various reasons the cost of the. 1540 03:13:14,000 --> 03:13:19,000 Keeping the building open the rant the volume of. 1541 03:13:20,000 --> 03:13:23,000 You know service that's being provided there so that. 1542 03:13:24,000 --> 03:13:33,000 There's a decision made to close the the office but still provide services and you know mobile services to that that area in scenarios. 1543 03:13:34,000 --> 03:13:39,000 As I say I'll have more job date next meeting since we're meeting on Monday but that's it. 1544 03:13:39,000 --> 03:13:42,000 That's it. Thanks. 1545 03:13:43,000 --> 03:13:45,000 I have no update at this time. Thank you. 1546 03:13:54,000 --> 03:13:56,000 I also have no update thanks. 1547 03:13:57,000 --> 03:14:00,000 I don't I'm sorry I lots going on but I'm in the. 1548 03:14:01,000 --> 03:14:06,000 I left the meeting as a result of moving the meeting it's conflicting with the. 1549 03:14:06,000 --> 03:14:13,000 The district services board meeting and home meeting again here in about 15 minutes to rejoin it. 1550 03:14:14,000 --> 03:14:18,000 They're in the middle of budget discussions and I don't want to miss that so I don't have a committee. 1551 03:14:19,000 --> 03:14:21,000 There's there on lunch. Yeah, so I laughed. 1552 03:14:22,000 --> 03:14:23,000 Thanks. Sorry. 1553 03:14:24,000 --> 03:14:26,000 Yeah, just a couple of things. 1554 03:14:27,000 --> 03:14:32,000 We have the tree lighting this Friday. 1555 03:14:32,000 --> 03:14:34,000 You mentioned the. 1556 03:14:35,000 --> 03:14:36,000 Kinsman prayed. 1557 03:14:37,000 --> 03:14:41,000 Next Saturday evening. 1558 03:14:42,000 --> 03:14:47,000 Also, I'm going to put a pitch in there that next Wednesday and that the Christmas trees are on the. 1559 03:14:48,000 --> 03:14:59,000 The ones that came from cells and that so and they're limited in numbers because we're not able to get the kind of numbers that we used to order. 1560 03:14:59,000 --> 03:15:00,000 I do. 1561 03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:20,000 This is because of the, it's across the industry and that where there's short of just so. They are limited not. And also the lighting of the, of the, of the, or the, or the lighting ceremony and quayton on Sunday. 1562 03:15:20,000 --> 03:15:34,000 Yeah, this Sunday, it's in our calendar in that. So just a couple of things just to, you know, to a not, I guess I've been a way more than I've been here. 1563 03:15:34,000 --> 03:15:44,000 I'm kind of two-pronged thing last week I was in chrono for a couple of things, but mainly for KDMA and. 1564 03:15:44,000 --> 03:15:57,000 Had quite a quite an interesting meeting with the solicitor general, but I was there representing not only Canora, but either like all nine municipalities for KDMA. 1565 03:15:57,000 --> 03:16:07,000 And we off, like maybe not to the same extent, but we all similar issues complaints concerns. 1566 03:16:08,000 --> 03:16:14,000 But there, there was a lot of talk about. 1567 03:16:14,000 --> 03:16:19,000 You know, they're, we're going through the costume mechanism, so that was brought up again that. 1568 03:16:19,000 --> 03:16:29,000 You know, we thought we submitted a good proposal, which really would have helped not only this community, but 31 30 other communities across the province. 1569 03:16:29,000 --> 03:16:39,000 Whether they take heed to that, I guess we'll find out they weren't forthcoming with a lot of information there, which suggests to me that they're not, they don't have it yet. 1570 03:16:39,000 --> 03:16:52,000 They're not ready, but they were also told that they better get on it or do something because they're holding up municipality budgets everywhere across the province right now. 1571 03:16:52,000 --> 03:16:59,000 They're, they're stalled on the operating side because it's such a big piece and that's our issue here right now. 1572 03:16:59,000 --> 03:17:08,000 We don't know what to put into that, what the number is supposed to be, which could be problematic for us going forward. 1573 03:17:08,000 --> 03:17:13,000 The community safety officers and I said, just take a chance. 1574 03:17:13,000 --> 03:17:21,000 Why don't you use this as a guinea pig of pilot, because they brought up other provinces and I said, yeah, we know about that. 1575 03:17:21,000 --> 03:17:30,000 But let's, why do we have to just because no one else has it in Ontario? Why do we have to wait for this Toronto centric stuff? 1576 03:17:30,000 --> 03:17:41,000 Why don't you let us try and put something together and put a full-fledged proposal in and we even have a department that would look at kind of overseeing that piece. 1577 03:17:41,000 --> 03:18:03,000 And then it, you know, there's, there's data that shows that it takes a lot of pressure off law enforcement where they can do other things, you know, where they, you know, they not only react, but they're proactive in that they can do other things not way to prevent, you know, crime or, or whatever it may be. 1578 03:18:03,000 --> 03:18:11,000 And then we talked about the LCBO thing and Thunder Bay, Siulicot, or Canara, want to try it. 1579 03:18:11,000 --> 03:18:22,000 It's a task pilot, if it doesn't work or it needs to be adjusted. So what? Because they do that all the time with government programs, they have to adjust things. 1580 03:18:22,000 --> 03:18:34,000 And so we're really pushing that again and like I don't know what other information on that went to provide because they've got more than enough data. 1581 03:18:34,000 --> 03:18:44,000 And it's being tossed around and moved around from this ministry to that ministry, but I think it's kind of time to make a decision. 1582 03:18:44,000 --> 03:18:57,000 It's not a legislative decision. It's a stroke of a pen decision. So that's what they're there for to make those changes. So really had an interesting discussion about that. 1583 03:18:57,000 --> 03:19:02,000 And the other one was off sale liquor sales. 1584 03:19:02,000 --> 03:19:09,000 That they need to go back and look at their regulations and legislation. 1585 03:19:09,000 --> 03:19:18,000 And they need, they can't just put these things in place and then let us ground because that's what we're doing. 1586 03:19:18,000 --> 03:19:30,000 So the data is being put together for, you know, what the effects are, like I guess safeways or one, you know, the grocery store issue now. 1587 03:19:30,000 --> 03:19:40,000 The, the one downtown the service station where they sell it, we see it all the time. All of us, we can't be hidden anymore. 1588 03:19:40,000 --> 03:19:54,000 But they're, it's expanding out, but it's not only us, it's other communities that have some of these licenses that have been that have been released out into the public and awarded. 1589 03:19:54,000 --> 03:20:04,000 There haven't problems everywhere. Again, it's not just a canor problem. It's become a problem like not even in North, just North Western Ontario in the outline areas. 1590 03:20:04,000 --> 03:20:13,000 And I think our city, she can, she hears it all the time in her meetings with colleagues. 1591 03:20:13,000 --> 03:20:29,000 So we need, we need to have the ability to at least question things or maybe even what would help us right now in that is setting hours, at least we're not going to get rid of the legislation. 1592 03:20:29,000 --> 03:20:47,000 But they can at least provide us with some tools that we can utilize at the municipal level in order to, you know, stem the problems that are having, because I said, you know, we're talking about brain solutions to reduce calls for service. 1593 03:20:47,000 --> 03:20:56,000 But we go too forward and we're going six back because every time you turn around and implement something, it hits us right there. 1594 03:20:56,000 --> 03:21:07,000 And this is like three or four things now that have come back to hit us. So you're not helping us. So when you think we're getting a rebate and we're getting this, we're getting that. 1595 03:21:07,000 --> 03:21:15,000 That's not even, that's not even helping, that's not even doing what we need it to do because our costs are going up anyways. 1596 03:21:15,000 --> 03:21:26,000 It's, it's just like, you know, it's like, you know, and I go, use the, the whole thing about the, like when cannabis came out, at least the federal government. 1597 03:21:26,000 --> 03:21:38,000 For, for fault in not to begin with, provided municipalities with a feedback, some opportunity, there is no feedback with this, it's just we're doing it. 1598 03:21:38,000 --> 03:21:55,000 So we have, we have a bit of flexibility, you know, on, on the cannabis thing or whatever, I just don't think we have too many stores in town, but having said that we do have some ability to control that somehow. 1599 03:21:55,000 --> 03:22:10,000 And we should for liquor and I, I know the thing came up about while you should help them move the store and I said, we did everything, but, and we literally offered them free property, valuable property. 1600 03:22:11,000 --> 03:22:28,000 And we got some canned response back about, from the Ministry of Finance, that they owned the building, well, I don't care, the government owns lots of buildings sell it, for giving you another one, someone would buy it for something. 1601 03:22:28,000 --> 03:22:41,000 That's not a, that's not a reasonable and rational reason not to do or look at something, and they're gross square foot, so it's all about profit and dump, like these things on canor and that's what they're doing. 1602 03:22:41,000 --> 03:22:56,000 And that's really where the discussion went and it didn't go well near the end because it, like, there was a lot of banter back and forth, like we can't keep coming and talking about these things and getting nowhere. 1603 03:22:56,000 --> 03:23:05,000 Like what else are we going to do, like it just, and some of these things regardless of who would be placing our community. 1604 03:23:05,000 --> 03:23:08,000 They would still be problems. 1605 03:23:08,000 --> 03:23:25,000 And we've, we've been talking about them, we need to address them, so hopefully, you know, we can, we can get to a point where they continue on, but the South, new and I'm going to KDMA meeting, so I have to slip out for a bit. 1606 03:23:26,000 --> 03:23:31,000 And we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about strategies going forward because. 1607 03:23:31,000 --> 03:23:47,000 If that's not going to solve some of the problems we have, we need to look at plan B, C and D, and some of those plans aren't going, aren't going to be politically correct. 1608 03:23:48,000 --> 03:24:10,000 And well, they, they're not, and we have to send a message because, you know, 20, some million dollars in, you know, for sewer and water, and I know it's a different budget and everything else, but we've got all these pressures on us to get this done to grow to do all these things, and we're getting killed by external agencies. 1609 03:24:10,000 --> 03:24:19,000 Like, you know, it's not going to be long where it's going to be half our budget. And we can't afford it. Like, we should not be paying for public health. 1610 03:24:19,000 --> 03:24:39,000 It is mandated from the province. Why is a local taxpayer paying for that? Why are we paying for, like, day care, whatever, not, we got out of the, or childcare. We got out of that. We shouldn't be contributing any of that. If a government wants to put a program in, then you should be able to afford to pay for that. 1611 03:24:39,000 --> 03:25:02,000 It should not be on our tax dollars important, but it should not be in our purview. We can go on and on and on and on about all these things. And, you know, hopefully we get some resolution on a couple of these items, but, you know, how many more years and how many more mayors and how many more councils are going to be talking about police costs. 1612 03:25:02,000 --> 03:25:25,000 Because it's been a topic of discussion since 2012, I think. That's 13 years. Come on. We need to spend our time focused on other, other initiatives, and some of these good programs that we've put forward as, like, with groups of people, that are going to make things better. 1613 03:25:25,000 --> 03:25:41,000 We talked about it in every meeting about the problems, and we provide solutions, and they get stalled out in a bureaucracy that's so big in Toronto, that no one even knows who works where, like, and so they don't know where to send things to. 1614 03:25:41,000 --> 03:26:10,000 And that become quite evident. More and more every time you meet with staff. No one seems to know who's doing what, and they're, well, we'll check into it. Well, they said that six months ago in six months ago. So, anyways, that, it was an interesting meeting. Just, like, next week and that just kind of tied in with, we over the last month or so we've been setting up meetings. 1615 03:26:10,000 --> 03:26:26,000 Setting up meetings with federal ministers to begin that dialogue on the campus care, because there's, there's a, there's a funding gap quite a large one actually. 1616 03:26:26,000 --> 03:26:40,000 And, but there's lots of pieces to that project, and there's lots of money out there, and if we're not there, we're not going to get anything. I don't care who writes a letter where it's a big country. 1617 03:26:40,000 --> 03:26:55,000 So we've made contact with ministers, we're getting follow up calls now, and we're going to meet with the housing or parliamentary assistant for housing and infrastructure at the federal level, where all the cash is. 1618 03:26:55,000 --> 03:27:08,000 Like, there's billions now, well, once the budget's passed and then some into the future, we need to tell our story and, you know, from the report that we have there. 1619 03:27:08,000 --> 03:27:17,000 That's what they want to see, that's what we're going to provide, and we were looking for funding to help develop some of these areas. 1620 03:27:17,000 --> 03:27:26,000 They want housing, we'll give them housing. We have people ready to go, but we have a huge cost to get to a foundation. 1621 03:27:26,000 --> 03:27:39,000 So anyways, that's part of that and tied in with the KCA and such, so that hopefully after that there'll be one more minister at some point. 1622 03:27:39,000 --> 03:27:48,000 And we're actually looking to set up a meeting with the prime minister, because they suggest that he would be good for him to hear our plan. 1623 03:27:48,000 --> 03:27:58,000 Our story, like as the partnership on that and with KCA, the hospital and all the other partners involved. 1624 03:27:58,000 --> 03:28:07,000 Again, that's what they're looking for. It checks off some of the boxes. We're going to give it to them. We already have it about they don't need to. 1625 03:28:07,000 --> 03:28:17,000 You can probably use it as a template for other areas of the country and not, so that means we do good things here. 1626 03:28:17,000 --> 03:28:22,000 And we want to show them that we are doing good things. 1627 03:28:22,000 --> 03:28:25,000 Thank you. 1628 03:28:25,000 --> 03:28:34,000 So do we want to, what do we want to do? 1629 03:28:34,000 --> 03:28:46,000 Yeah, so we'll take, I don't know why. 1630 03:28:46,000 --> 03:28:50,000 Yeah, I have a lot of people dropping off. 1631 03:28:50,000 --> 03:28:59,000 I will. 1632 03:29:04,000 --> 03:29:14,000 Thank you. 1633 03:29:34,000 --> 03:29:59,000 Thank you. 1634 03:29:59,000 --> 03:30:09,000 Thank you. 1635 04:19:30,000 --> 04:19:59,000 Okay. 1636 04:20:00,000 --> 04:20:16,000 Okay. Welcome back, everybody. So we're going to move on the agenda. We're going to go to 6.4. Recreation and Culture. So we have 6.4.1. 1637 04:20:16,000 --> 04:20:22,000 We have to sell these sponsorship and naming rights policy. So, so you're. 1638 04:20:22,000 --> 04:20:32,000 So council find a facility sponsorship and name rights policy in front of them. The purpose of this policy is to. 1639 04:20:32,000 --> 04:20:40,000 Standardize an accountable approach to engage in external partners for naming rights and sponsorships. 1640 04:20:40,000 --> 04:20:46,000 This is fairly common in municipalities to have some sort of governing document. 1641 04:20:46,000 --> 04:20:56,000 There are two amendments within the policy. There's a reference to an event. 1642 04:20:56,000 --> 04:21:04,000 In the number 10 as well as number 11. So that is pulled out and it will be in. 1643 04:21:04,000 --> 04:21:10,000 It will be in next week without that. So if there's any questions concerns. 1644 04:21:10,000 --> 04:21:18,000 Thoughts on this policy. Definitely looking for your council's. 1645 04:21:18,000 --> 04:21:22,000 Intuition on this. 1646 04:21:22,000 --> 04:21:26,000 Any questions, a council? 1647 04:21:26,000 --> 04:21:31,000 No. So you're just to clarify you're removing the section regarding recognition event. 1648 04:21:31,000 --> 04:21:37,000 Yes, so there's a section where it says this event will be coordinated by the recreation and culture department. 1649 04:21:37,000 --> 04:21:45,000 That's been removed as well as communications department has managed sponsor recognition signage branding and event promotion. 1650 04:21:45,000 --> 04:21:50,000 That event promotion is also taken over there. 1651 04:21:50,000 --> 04:21:56,000 Any concerns by council for those two. 1652 04:21:56,000 --> 04:22:01,000 Thank you. So if we can move on to 6.4.2. 1653 04:22:01,000 --> 04:22:02,000 What's your question? 1654 04:22:02,000 --> 04:22:05,000 Culture, Q3 report. 1655 04:22:05,000 --> 04:22:14,000 For sure. So Q3 was extremely busy at the Moncave Construction Sports Center with numerous projects going on. 1656 04:22:14,000 --> 04:22:24,000 I do want to thank firstly our staff for being not only understanding but willing to be flexible with, you know, 1657 04:22:24,000 --> 04:22:32,000 there works stations having to walk probably 10 to 20,000 steps a day trying to get from one sign to the facility. 1658 04:22:32,000 --> 04:22:36,000 So really appreciate all the work they put into it. 1659 04:22:36,000 --> 04:22:41,000 We've, they've come up with great solutions for problems we've had. 1660 04:22:41,000 --> 04:22:49,000 Just small little details that sometimes just don't even know are going to happen and they've figured it out for us. 1661 04:22:49,000 --> 04:22:59,000 I'm really, really impressed and pleased with what the staff have done, especially during this construction season as well as the public. 1662 04:22:59,000 --> 04:23:12,000 I do want to thank the public as well for being so understanding and willing to deal with the change so we can improve the facilities. 1663 04:23:12,000 --> 04:23:27,000 As well as I really want to thank all of the staff who are potentially who are bringing up those ideas. 1664 04:23:27,000 --> 04:23:35,000 So we had a lot going on this summer as well but I really want to dive into something that the library was putting on. 1665 04:23:35,000 --> 04:23:46,000 They had an annual, they did their annual drive and event and I just want to iterate how intelligent and creative that group is. 1666 04:23:46,000 --> 04:23:58,000 They had kids in box cars watching and moving in a library that is so cool and exciting and you know I wish I wish that I could have done something like that so I really appreciate it. 1667 04:23:58,000 --> 04:24:11,000 They even had a concession there so who doesn't want to go to a drive and so I'm just really impressed with the library and all the really cool things that they do down there so really just want to. 1668 04:24:11,000 --> 04:24:22,000 Make sure that everyone knows about all the exciting things that they're doing and I also do want to comment on something that the new staff have been doing they're doing. 1669 04:24:22,000 --> 04:24:31,000 An exceptional intellectual work there that a lot of us don't really know what they're doing so they so they digitize their photos. 1670 04:24:31,000 --> 04:24:46,000 They're using AI now for some different things you know they're preserving second world more artifacts that they do a lot of stuff outside of just having the doors open and people going in there so I really want to. 1671 04:24:46,000 --> 04:24:53,000 Ensure that the public is aware of all the extras that to do especially what's in the intellectual frame so. 1672 04:24:53,000 --> 04:25:04,000 Once the end just really really pleased with those two spaces in particular about how advanced they are for a community our size so. 1673 04:25:04,000 --> 04:25:10,000 You know if there's any questions I'm here to respond and to answer so. 1674 04:25:11,000 --> 04:25:20,000 Yeah, so I guess my question is probably more of a Q for question but I can ask it any help. 1675 04:25:20,000 --> 04:25:34,000 I'm just wondering when when the when the drive pad was done and then I'm assuming the concrete continued on where the Zamboni goes down like who was who is verifying and checking. 1676 04:25:34,000 --> 04:25:41,000 First of all the project and secondly like the design on that because that like. 1677 04:25:41,000 --> 04:25:53,000 Be quite honest with you not that that was quite an oversight you know where now can't get down now it's created another problem there then they got to go back in the spring and. 1678 04:25:53,000 --> 04:25:58,000 Assuming remove some concrete and then change the slope again and. 1679 04:25:58,000 --> 04:26:09,000 I don't know I just I just feel that if we had a like like like a project manager there may be more often someone would have saw that notice that right away. 1680 04:26:09,000 --> 04:26:13,000 For sure so we did have our consultants. 1681 04:26:14,000 --> 04:26:19,000 So I think. 1682 04:26:19,000 --> 04:26:29,000 I think I think that the thought was that the Zamboni that we had would be able to get up and get down still. 1683 04:26:29,000 --> 04:26:40,000 But the way that it worked out was our conditioner when it's coming off the ice and actually goes into the tires now because it's too much of a decline in inclined. 1684 04:26:40,000 --> 04:26:46,080 So the machine could still go up and down, but if we didn't put the ramp in, they would have 1685 04:26:46,080 --> 04:26:51,200 to lift up the conditioner in the gold crease, make an a huge pile of snow and it wouldn't 1686 04:26:51,200 --> 04:26:59,280 really work out that well. So the design team likely should have had that into account, but when 1687 04:26:59,280 --> 04:27:05,280 you look at the designs, when you look at the specs of your machine, you can't actually tell if 1688 04:27:05,360 --> 04:27:11,600 there's no specs on the machine saying this is how high your decline is, your incline is because 1689 04:27:11,600 --> 04:27:16,800 you're not really supposed to have any of it. So we're fixing it now, and yeah, we understand 1690 04:27:16,800 --> 04:27:23,120 it was an oversight, but we're trying to make it better now. So just a supplementary then is 1691 04:27:23,120 --> 04:27:30,640 so just concrete hop actually have to be broken up. No, move. No, or is it something with a machine 1692 04:27:30,720 --> 04:27:35,920 or what? Like what? Like, because we got a lot of questions about it, and we haven't received 1693 04:27:35,920 --> 04:27:44,560 a lot of answers. We just said or been told that it, it'll be fixed in April or whatever, but for a 1694 04:27:44,560 --> 04:27:50,560 lot of people, that's not good enough, not after what was spent. So if we could get more, fold some 1695 04:27:51,840 --> 04:27:59,280 response as to like what what the issue is, then because I thought it was concrete and I guess I was 1696 04:27:59,280 --> 04:28:06,160 guessing we're going to keep going, and then it's finally swooped down when in fact that's not 1697 04:28:06,160 --> 04:28:12,800 what the problem in the issue was. Yeah, so the issue right now is that's like I said, you know, 1698 04:28:12,800 --> 04:28:18,880 the conditioner can't come up, so we built a fake ramp right now. So all we're doing is adding concrete to 1699 04:28:18,880 --> 04:28:24,640 the ramp, so we're going to add to the ramp, which in turn means we have to have our bridge raise right 1700 04:28:24,640 --> 04:28:31,760 now, because we don't want our operators to be decapitated for lack of a better term, so we are working 1701 04:28:31,760 --> 04:28:38,320 with a stand-tech on both of those right now to figure out, you know, first of all, how can we have 1702 04:28:38,320 --> 04:28:44,560 the bridge down and make it a loop the whole time and second of all, just the right angles that we need 1703 04:28:44,560 --> 04:28:50,400 for that ramp. We already know, because we have it in place, we built it, so we just need to make a concrete 1704 04:28:50,480 --> 04:29:00,880 now, it's wet right now, so. Thank you. Any other questions of Andrew? No. Did you have more to 1705 04:29:00,880 --> 04:29:07,440 continue on with? No? No, you're welcome. Okay, well thank you very much, I thank you. 1706 04:29:07,840 --> 04:29:21,760 Okay, moving on the agenda, about six point five, corporate services, finance, and resources, 1707 04:29:22,800 --> 04:29:28,800 we're going to move to six point five point two, financial status and forecast at the September 31st, 1708 04:29:28,800 --> 04:29:38,800 so director and marsch. 1709 04:29:42,800 --> 04:29:53,360 Thank you, good afternoon. So I have the financial status and forecast report as of September 30th, 1710 04:29:53,360 --> 04:29:58,240 2025. 1711 04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:09,740 The forecast for the net tax level supported budget is the shortfall setting at $283,000, $47,000. The 1712 04:30:09,740 --> 04:30:16,560 south support utilities water and wastewater deficit is $109,009,000, and the solid waste forecast 1713 04:30:16,560 --> 04:30:25,860 services $8,859. So the net tax level supported budget is, we've seen about some 1714 04:30:25,860 --> 04:30:36,980 improvements from last period. Last period we saw it about $663,000. And so this period, we've 1715 04:30:36,980 --> 04:30:46,500 done a decent job of trying to mitigate some of the over-expansures that we had forecasted. 1716 04:30:46,500 --> 04:30:53,120 So primarily the change from June to September is a little bit increase in our interest 1717 04:30:53,120 --> 04:31:01,260 earnings, a little bit higher and out there. Our fire over time, we've seen a little bit of a forecast 1718 04:31:01,260 --> 04:31:07,340 or a projection come down. While it's still high, we're seeing, we're projecting a bit less 1719 04:31:07,340 --> 04:31:15,740 than we did last period. And then we have some more general salary benefits savings. So I'm just going 1720 04:31:15,740 --> 04:31:22,460 to go through some of the various explanations for each of the areas. So as I mentioned, the corporate 1721 04:31:22,460 --> 04:31:28,780 forecasting increase in interest of $91,000. General government, variance is due to salary 1722 04:31:28,780 --> 04:31:36,300 benefits. There's a number of positions inside there that are offsetting our vacancy management. 1723 04:31:36,300 --> 04:31:44,460 And we also have some savings and contract services. So we're at $677,000 in the deficit. They're mainly 1724 04:31:44,460 --> 04:31:52,340 because of the vacancy management. Protection, as I mentioned earlier, the overtime increase to meet 1725 04:31:52,340 --> 04:32:00,420 some staffing requirements as we have is we're running a deficit of $491,000 there. And in transportation, 1726 04:32:01,220 --> 04:32:06,580 they're the ones that are basically covering off a large portion of that vacancy management with some of the 1727 04:32:06,580 --> 04:32:15,460 more significant positions. They have vacancies currently and earlier in the year that are allocated there. 1728 04:32:16,340 --> 04:32:24,500 And then we have some increases, increase savings and recycling. Some reduced fleet expenses are 1729 04:32:24,500 --> 04:32:34,580 driving that wreck in culture. We have a shortfall there, 125,000, mainly due to the capital work that's 1730 04:32:34,580 --> 04:32:41,540 influencing, impacting some of the revenues there. And then we have some planning development variance, 1731 04:32:41,540 --> 04:32:46,980 decrease in contract services and a small increase in fees that we're seeing there for $53,000. 1732 04:32:50,340 --> 04:32:56,660 And the solid waste and utility side-solid waste, a variance is a result of increase in volume of sales, 1733 04:32:56,660 --> 04:33:05,460 offset with some small increase in fleet and vehicle. So eight, that's 8,859. And the water, 1734 04:33:05,460 --> 04:33:13,300 waste water variance is due to some increased maintenance and repairs. And some forecast and lower revenues, 1735 04:33:13,300 --> 04:33:20,100 that's also offset with some more fleet expenses. So we're seeing with a deficit today of $109,000. 1736 04:33:21,940 --> 04:33:28,500 So that kind of runs us through the departments quickly, kind of in a nutshell. The second appendices is the 1737 04:33:28,500 --> 04:33:33,220 capital project. So that also gives you an idea of what the capital projects are still open, 1738 04:33:33,220 --> 04:33:39,140 some of the spending to date or as of November 7th, this includes and some of the remaining budget. 1739 04:33:40,500 --> 04:33:46,340 That would conclude my forecast for September 30th. There's any questions that you have to do. 1740 04:33:47,300 --> 04:33:49,220 Take any questions or council? 1741 04:33:54,660 --> 04:34:01,940 I just, the importance of accordingly report in terms of being financially responsible is so important 1742 04:34:01,940 --> 04:34:09,380 because it allows us to adjust in year to what we see as being a pressure. So if council recalls the 1743 04:34:09,380 --> 04:34:15,540 second quarter financial report that was presented, we, you know, we were not looking in a good place and we've 1744 04:34:15,540 --> 04:34:21,460 done a lot to improve the financial position and what we think that our year end expected finishes going to be. 1745 04:34:21,460 --> 04:34:27,300 So this is really, you know, we've really come a long ways in the, in the last couple of months in terms of 1746 04:34:27,300 --> 04:34:32,260 closing that gap, which just demonstrates strong financial management. So just wanted to say that. 1747 04:34:34,660 --> 04:34:42,660 Any other questions? Just, just come from one piece and just take the chair. I just, just a comment 1748 04:34:42,660 --> 04:34:47,700 that because I know there was a bit of concern on the water and wastewater because it was, 1749 04:34:48,660 --> 04:34:57,940 was it around 269 or something in the last quarter? Could be or was, it was significantly higher than, 1750 04:34:58,980 --> 04:35:03,540 then you thought, or then you were hoping for? I have to take a look. 1751 04:35:03,540 --> 04:35:07,220 Yeah, but I know it's come down, I guess, is what I'm saying. Oh, yeah. 1752 04:35:07,220 --> 04:35:14,260 What I'm saying. So in to stay this point, you know, that's part of the exercise this going through it 1753 04:35:14,340 --> 04:35:19,460 gives eyes on the current financials that allows the managers and allows the director to see 1754 04:35:20,180 --> 04:35:27,460 the position we're in and they're able to pivot and make adjustments to try to, you know, really make up some of those projected overages. 1755 04:35:30,820 --> 04:35:36,900 So I don't, yeah, that answers it. Yeah, it was more of a statement that I know there was 1756 04:35:36,900 --> 04:35:45,700 concern at the time at the end of the key to, it was, it was high enough that it was material. 1757 04:35:45,700 --> 04:35:50,340 Right, yeah. I think we're in a, to your point, I think we're in a better position, all around. 1758 04:35:50,340 --> 04:35:55,780 So I mean, we're not quite there yet, but we're, we're making our way to you. Yeah. Okay, thank you. 1759 04:35:56,660 --> 04:36:02,420 Thanks. So, oh, I guess you're, I guess you're done. 1760 04:36:02,420 --> 04:36:17,540 Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you, you, you have three or four items. So, so moving on the agenda 6.5.3, we have community safety and 1761 04:36:17,540 --> 04:36:40,500 well being Q3 report. So, Eric, thank you, Your Worship. Good afternoon. 1762 04:36:42,580 --> 04:36:47,380 Your Worship and members of Council. I printed to you the Q3 report for the community safety and well 1763 04:36:47,380 --> 04:36:56,100 being division. You know, as you can see in my report, first starts with the implementation planning and 1764 04:36:56,100 --> 04:37:02,900 where we're at with the different actions. The committee went through a process of identifying the first 1765 04:37:02,900 --> 04:37:09,300 priority actions to get started with in part recognizing what's already underway and what they felt should be 1766 04:37:09,300 --> 04:37:16,580 the priority. So you have a status report for that. As well, we're able to do some outreach through the fall. 1767 04:37:18,340 --> 04:37:24,980 Both of them, Mattiowski's farmers market and add a couple of other events to be able to let folks know about the plan. 1768 04:37:26,020 --> 04:37:32,340 And as well to be able to see if they wanted to be involved. I mean, it was a time to further them to reach out to me and to let me know about 1769 04:37:32,980 --> 04:37:37,140 if an action team was something that they would be interested in and will continue to do that. 1770 04:37:38,580 --> 04:37:45,300 The next part I wanted to share and this is why I've got my computer and one sitting down is just an update on the dashboard. 1771 04:37:45,860 --> 04:37:48,900 So as part of the plan we talked, we are making this 1772 04:37:51,060 --> 04:37:55,700 a priority of the city about making sure folks know kind of where things are at. 1773 04:37:56,340 --> 04:38:03,380 So in this one of the ways that we're doing is by creating a dashboard using the Power BI system to be 1774 04:38:03,380 --> 04:38:09,300 able to show and keep track of the 48 different action items on where they are. So let me give you a moment. 1775 04:38:15,300 --> 04:38:28,820 So this is a little bit different than what's in the report. What you have in the report. 1776 04:38:33,780 --> 04:38:39,540 Basically is in a different orientation with through consultation with the communication department. 1777 04:38:40,020 --> 04:38:49,140 We're keeping in mind AODA requirements and and how it fits in our our website and all this will be placed within the city of 1778 04:38:49,140 --> 04:38:53,540 Canora City, a canora.ca website under the community safety and well being planned. 1779 04:38:53,940 --> 04:38:59,140 So as you can see it is using the assets that we have and also shows kind of where things are at. 1780 04:38:59,140 --> 04:39:04,740 So really trying to keep it simple in a way that people can see and get the information they need. 1781 04:39:04,740 --> 04:39:09,700 So for example, priority area one is collaboration communications. There are five priority actions. 1782 04:39:09,700 --> 04:39:14,660 This is an indicator of how many actions it started and it folks want more details they can click into this. 1783 04:39:19,940 --> 04:39:25,140 So this is a priority area one with all the priority actions here if they want more information about a specific 1784 04:39:26,260 --> 04:39:30,420 item they click on that and then it's on the right hand side. 1785 04:39:30,980 --> 04:39:38,180 Where let's talk about the status the lead their approaches any updates and any results impact. 1786 04:39:38,740 --> 04:39:43,380 So for example, we had our community safety and well being. 1787 04:39:45,380 --> 04:39:52,260 Plan open house and so we have this is probably one that's has more information on it. 1788 04:39:52,260 --> 04:39:59,940 So it's been started where the lead knowledge, mobilization and assessments updates as it will be a yearly event. 1789 04:39:59,940 --> 04:40:03,380 We'll need to strike an action to start planning for next year's event. 1790 04:40:04,260 --> 04:40:10,500 And so about when we aim to do it this is in December and impact was we had an open house or result June 9th, 1791 04:40:10,900 --> 04:40:20,660 120 folks in attendance at the Discovery Center. So this gives you this information and as you go through here we'll have that for each of the priority action areas. 1792 04:40:20,660 --> 04:40:35,620 And it's meant to be you know accessible you know we also realize that you know sometimes we have reports but it's good to have things here for people to see. 1793 04:40:41,860 --> 04:40:45,060 Okay, maybe I'll stop here are there any questions about this dashboard. 1794 04:40:51,380 --> 04:41:00,900 Well, this looks great and I see in your narrative here it says that you work with Klona or the city of Klona uses this yeah. 1795 04:41:02,260 --> 04:41:08,820 I'm familiar with their plan. It's quite a their community safety mobile being planned. I know they're quite they've been doing this for a while. 1796 04:41:09,700 --> 04:41:20,260 So I think we're following a good template here and I really think this is so important because you know we talked about this all the time about that we've taken this on. 1797 04:41:20,260 --> 04:41:33,060 But people want to know and we brought up constant mass is not in your head like we all it's a show me world right people want to know what are we doing and oftentimes people are impatient and we want to see results immediately. 1798 04:41:33,060 --> 04:41:39,220 But these things are you know using term before it's a big there's there's systemic issues it's a social determinants of health. 1799 04:41:39,220 --> 04:41:46,260 I mean we don't hold the keys to the the answer so to speak right and it's it's the collaboration it's very nuanced. 1800 04:41:46,260 --> 04:42:01,620 And but we can the idea is to make move it forward so to show people that we are moving it forward and you know it's going to happen incrementally I think it's a really great chance for the public to interact and have the questions answered. 1801 04:42:02,580 --> 04:42:31,540 May may not make everybody happy, but I mean we're following a tried and true like a template here, you know as using tools example so this is when is this going to be I think so we are going to soft launch in the matter weeks I think we're with communications to craft a message to go to the public to let them know kind of you know how to use it and there's some data cleanup I have to do so right now I've been working mainly and function 1802 04:42:31,540 --> 04:42:40,340 and so I do want to say I want to recognize the systems of our partners so we have community partners so I've been getting a lot of 1803 04:42:40,340 --> 04:42:56,340 assistance from the epidemiologists at the health unit and so so this is up up bringing that in as well I've gotten help from Kelona so a couple of things initially so this is model after them so I should give them credit for or need to give them credit for 1804 04:42:56,340 --> 04:43:05,540 bringing this out it was really neat actually as part of not this quarter but it'll be in the next ones report we did go to the 1805 04:43:05,540 --> 04:43:15,620 communities a Canadian Center for safer communities annual conference it was in Halifax and I was able to meet the folks from Kelona people to talk to them about that and 1806 04:43:15,620 --> 04:43:21,620 they're they're excited to be able to help us out to and to meet this useful and so this is one of the things we said 1807 04:43:21,620 --> 04:43:31,620 final comment here you mentioned about working with the folks in Halifax with epidemiologists and working with Kelona I mean this is unheard of we've never done this before and I mean so 1808 04:43:31,620 --> 04:43:39,620 so I just have to really emphasize this for people are listening and and pay attention to this these are collaborative 1809 04:43:39,620 --> 04:43:49,620 relationships that have been developed and that are really important here and you know your your connection with Kelona and you're going to talk about the conference we want to 1810 04:43:49,620 --> 04:43:57,620 these are communities outside of Kelona they're trying to figure out these same issues so we're I I feel where we've really come out of that 1811 04:43:57,620 --> 04:44:05,620 you know I use the term dark ages like we're we're addressing like we were we've identified these priority areas we were we're 1812 04:44:05,620 --> 04:44:15,620 we're we're we're coming up a strategic ways to address these strategic priorities and we're not going to stop like we're using a template that's been successful in other communities 1813 04:44:15,620 --> 04:44:24,620 so I really feel that we're on the cutting edge of this and and congratulations for getting us up and going and lastly are you doing all the 1814 04:44:24,620 --> 04:44:33,620 are you populating all the data that's up to you to I am and so one of the nice things about the system is it all goes on one spreadsheet 1815 04:44:33,620 --> 04:44:39,620 one Excel spreadsheet that this pulls from and that's the only your intention about that because we don't want to be up update 1816 04:44:39,620 --> 04:44:46,620 48 different pages right you know within the web environment you want to be able to pull that in so it's a time saver 1817 04:44:46,620 --> 04:44:56,620 it's also allows us to be able to do other things so this is I should say this document is evergreen it will be changing as we see what information folks want to get 1818 04:44:56,620 --> 04:45:00,620 and how we want to draw on it and as we get more content. 1819 04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:13,000 Comfortable with the system, be able to draw that. There are a lot of different functional elements that we can do. Right now what you've seen today is what's going to be launched, beta-wise in terms of, and we will add to it going forward. 1820 04:45:13,000 --> 04:45:18,000 There might be other things. I'm looking at, you know, how we can maybe put some hyperlinks. 1821 04:45:18,000 --> 04:45:28,000 So it's up to when you can click on reports and documents. So I think of what was presented today from the city was very significant with the housing. 1822 04:45:28,000 --> 04:45:33,000 It means assessment and that is in our plan to look at that, communicate that out of the public. 1823 04:45:33,000 --> 04:45:41,000 And so a link to that would live on here. So you would see it in, it's not here right now, but like eventually here. 1824 04:45:41,000 --> 04:45:55,000 And I believe it's to regulate, communicate to the public. So I could see it kind of living in this spot here, where then folks can go and look at that thing. And this is what the different different folks are doing. 1825 04:45:55,000 --> 04:46:10,000 Well, understanding that, you know, there is a communication ecosystem within the city, absolutely to do that, but this is just where items will reside, the links as it pertains to the community safety and well being planned. 1826 04:46:10,000 --> 04:46:12,000 Thank you. 1827 04:46:12,000 --> 04:46:13,000 Thank you, your worship. 1828 04:46:13,000 --> 04:46:16,000 Eric, good to see you. Thank you for this update today. 1829 04:46:16,000 --> 04:46:23,000 I have two questions. The first regarding section 2.2 in your report under priority items. 1830 04:46:23,000 --> 04:46:33,000 You've identified, engaged the province of Ontario in a collaborative review of funding being provided to young people who are aging out of care, especially within the Northern Ontario context. 1831 04:46:33,000 --> 04:46:44,000 I mean, we heard earlier today from Councillor Ben Bellingham and her work on the police services board that, you know, they're seeing a huge increase in youth interaction in our criminal justice system and interaction with police. 1832 04:46:44,000 --> 04:46:48,000 So I'm just curious, you've identified that you need to identify an action team. 1833 04:46:48,000 --> 04:46:57,000 I'm just curious if you've had conversations with KRR or Avenue G Child Family Services to try to identify what those funding gaps are or could be. 1834 04:46:57,000 --> 04:47:00,000 So that's just my first question all for the second one. 1835 04:47:00,000 --> 04:47:04,000 Okay, so the first one is specifically to 2.2. 1836 04:47:04,000 --> 04:47:13,000 We haven't done that specifically on the actions, however we recognize the importance of, you know, this issue of services and 1837 04:47:13,000 --> 04:47:17,000 actions involving young, younger folk into that end. 1838 04:47:17,000 --> 04:47:22,000 I did have a conversation I had a meeting with the manager of the youth hub. 1839 04:47:22,000 --> 04:47:29,000 We have the executive director for canora ring river child and family services on our implementation community. 1840 04:47:29,000 --> 04:47:35,000 So we're actually working on another action, she's involved right now on another action team that's further down. 1841 04:47:35,000 --> 04:47:44,000 I believe it's to point one one about the human trafficking, but but as we discuss these things, they're not in isolation. 1842 04:47:44,000 --> 04:47:46,000 One reason to be other so. 1843 04:47:46,000 --> 04:47:52,000 So once we get those things set, it'll pivot and we'll work on that because it has been identified as a priority. 1844 04:47:52,000 --> 04:47:53,000 Okay. 1845 04:47:53,000 --> 04:47:54,000 Thank you. 1846 04:47:54,000 --> 04:47:55,000 Thank you for that answer. 1847 04:47:55,000 --> 04:48:07,000 My second question is regarding 3.4 so code development between city and social services work for like a work readiness program with a specific goal to advocate to the crowns office to dedicate community service hours to this work. 1848 04:48:07,000 --> 04:48:13,000 So you mentioned here that you've got a preliminary outreach to the newly appointed crown and that you're going to be meeting with them in November. 1849 04:48:13,000 --> 04:48:14,000 Have you had that meeting? 1850 04:48:14,000 --> 04:48:23,000 I haven't yet, but I will say that she did retouch to me last week, which is great and she said, I can can I have a copy of the plan so I was able to send her a copy of the plan. 1851 04:48:23,000 --> 04:48:35,000 She said she'll review it and then she said, I will follow up with her to see one of meeting timers, but I'm glad I had put in multiple requests and I know that in and being in a new position that. 1852 04:48:35,000 --> 04:48:43,000 You're always kind of learning and getting caught up and stuff and so I'm glad that she was still she reached reach out and was able to kind of say this is something that's on our on our radar. 1853 04:48:43,000 --> 04:48:51,000 I will add she does have experience with the Knorr Justice Center so I think there are opportunities there to talk and the reason that this. 1854 04:48:51,000 --> 04:49:05,000 3.4 came out was we did here in our conversations that in within the justice system there is interest in looking at models like this right now among those who are in the Knorr environment. 1855 04:49:05,000 --> 04:49:17,000 So it's an opportunity it's an opportunity time to raise those discussions and again just to sort of piggyback off a comment made by Councillor Bernie earlier. 1856 04:49:17,000 --> 04:49:22,000 I mean the frustration of our staff to continually be cleaning up downtown. 1857 04:49:23,000 --> 04:49:34,000 The resource drainage is in our community and I don't want to be saying the statement from you know a misinformed place I could be wrong but I wasn't really in person that years ago. 1858 04:49:34,000 --> 04:49:45,000 I was basically an opportunity for for this type of work to be completed with a specific focus on the background right I'm just wondering because there's also been comments today. 1859 04:49:45,000 --> 04:50:02,000 And some reference in your report about you know willingness of perhaps the chamber of commerce or maybe harbour town biz to partner or work together and collaborate that perhaps we can have an expanded area in our harbour town center for this type of community service work and service hours to help contribute to the clean up of our downtown. 1860 04:50:02,000 --> 04:50:07,000 I mean there are multiple ways of entering this this discussion and I think that we're already having these conversations so. 1861 04:50:07,000 --> 04:50:14,000 So I did have the opportunity to go to the harbour town biz meeting and I know that there was one question about. 1862 04:50:14,000 --> 04:50:26,000 Not not about it was about clean up of the docks and and such and so when I was able to reach out to within the city and and send an introductory email to the chair of the harbour town biz. 1863 04:50:26,000 --> 04:50:34,000 And the this manager of the facility is to say you know start this discussion you know because he said it was okay to start that so it's about. 1864 04:50:34,000 --> 04:50:43,000 Starting there and as we have those discussions that is there are opportunities I think to do that I've also heard about the bucks brigade. 1865 04:50:43,000 --> 04:50:55,000 And everybody's talked about you know the successes there I we've also learned that it's it was running in a different time as well you know in terms of like you know how people were on the on the streets. 1866 04:50:55,000 --> 04:51:10,000 With drug use much more prevalent now than when bucks brigade was in in operation however you know there we do know from our to me survey and our focus group sessions that there is appetite you know among those who are you know outside. 1867 04:51:10,000 --> 04:51:22,000 I'm actually as a house to be able to contribute to so so it's we are having these initial discussions okay that's that's good just a comment and then I'll wrap it up. 1868 04:51:22,000 --> 04:51:31,000 I just I just I want to I want there to be something in place or I would like there I'd like to see something in place in terms of. 1869 04:51:31,000 --> 04:51:46,000 A program partnership a collaborative effort so that if the crown is willing to redirect individuals for community services work that there's a place for them to go like I don't I don't think the expectation is that the crown is going to create this. 1870 04:51:46,000 --> 04:51:57,000 I think we need to create it for them and I think we need to collaborate with some of the downtown business owners. I mean we've heard loud and clear I participated in the town hall open house that we did last month or maybe it was earlier this month at the news. 1871 04:51:57,000 --> 04:52:04,000 I mean one of the questions was about what are the noticeable things in our downtown that have that have seen change or have been positive change. 1872 04:52:04,000 --> 04:52:17,000 And the response certainly see feedback from the audience and from members that I spoke to both in the business community and just the public at large is you know they're not seeing much of a change and they're seeing a lot of garbage downtown and it's it's an endless. 1873 04:52:17,000 --> 04:52:41,000 Drain for our municipal resources and our staff to be dealing with this problem so I look to you and hope that you can continue this work and try to get partners together to create an opportunity for the crown to have someone to direct people to because that is an opportunity and I think that is a population that will be well served in doing this work and contributing to cleaning up our downtown our community and be longing to our community. 1874 04:52:41,000 --> 04:52:46,000 Yeah, I mean it's it's it's preliminary and so this is what what we've got from the feedback. 1875 04:52:46,000 --> 04:53:01,000 Part of discussion is it really is the crown that suggests the charges right so so when they're in the court system and they're there and there's there's something that they have to do it's it's not the defense it's the crown that will be amenable to that so the fact that we have. 1876 04:53:01,000 --> 04:53:12,000 on audience with them to be able to bring this up I think is you know is a good start that you know with that said yeah I I think we need to. 1877 04:53:12,000 --> 04:53:21,000 As you said make the best case to go forward and provide that structure for that to happen and then this might be other further. 1878 04:53:21,000 --> 04:53:31,000 discussions with other groups and I think we should look at the kind of justice center as kind of a model because they have done some things with that with a restorative justice and things that it can. 1879 04:53:31,000 --> 04:53:46,000 That we could maybe use to do that I think one of the without getting to long winded but one of the things is there has to be a champion organization to be able to kind of take in these folks to be able to do that work right and so it's like where does that said who who does that. 1880 04:53:47,000 --> 04:53:51,000 Yeah, I'm just suggesting it can be us. Oh partnering let's present here. Yeah, okay. 1881 04:53:56,000 --> 04:54:01,000 Yes, sorry, can you just back up on your slide there Eric to that original. Sure. 1882 04:54:02,000 --> 04:54:17,000 So the question is around your interface here. Yeah, here we go. So now the actions that are assigned to each of those if the actions fall in more than one category are they captured and more than one category. 1883 04:54:18,000 --> 04:54:25,000 No, no, those are this is from what's in the plan so if you go through the plan they are numbered. 1884 04:54:25,000 --> 04:54:40,000 You know one point I think there are there are five like so it's 1.1 through 1.5 the biggest party area is number two and has 13 actions and so they so there are some. 1885 04:54:41,000 --> 04:54:50,000 Instances where there are synergies between the two, but there's their distinct and they will be reported separately. So I guess I'm looking for a comment from you on how you feel. 1886 04:54:51,000 --> 04:54:57,000 The actions are weighted based on like it seems to me it's very useful. 1887 04:54:57,000 --> 04:55:05,000 And when we you know we have the initial community meeting where there was an outcry for it wasn't the use. 1888 04:55:06,000 --> 04:55:12,000 I mean it's on the rise. He's crying there's issues on the rise, but at that time it was to do that. 1889 04:55:13,000 --> 04:55:22,000 So I'm just wondering if you know what your feelings are on that and are there more actions to come around things like drug use. 1890 04:55:22,000 --> 04:55:35,000 I think I think I think I should add like you know among the actions there they're also not equivalent. 1891 04:55:35,000 --> 04:55:44,000 Some are short and advocacy and pieces that are just you know just reporting that you know this is being done others are much longer in scope. 1892 04:55:44,000 --> 04:55:59,000 So it's hard to say while there are 13 in children you can families you know they're not all weighted equivalent in terms of their length of time that they'll be be done and the energy and effort and stuff. 1893 04:56:00,000 --> 04:56:05,000 I know there was a great deliberation about mixing it up within the plan. 1894 04:56:05,000 --> 04:56:12,000 Some things have short some things are longer and some things are really aspirational that like honestly we mean it not. 1895 04:56:13,000 --> 04:56:24,000 Be able to to finish in this in this time frame but we could kind of get the foundation started for something future like you know future focus as for the other things I do think. 1896 04:56:25,000 --> 04:56:34,000 I would encourage everyone to read the party actions because a lot of those things can live within those actions so for example if I can go to. 1897 04:56:35,000 --> 04:56:37,000 Down to me spaces. 1898 04:56:37,000 --> 04:56:59,000 I'm sorry there's a zero there and that's just by the sorting design that's why I have to do that because we have more than 10 but oh no not 3.3 it is 3.2. 1899 04:56:59,000 --> 04:57:17,000 Design a comprehensive integrated approach that is inclusive all service which enforcement and outreach in the downtown area and ensure that this approach is widely known and easily accessible to the community so something like this. 1900 04:57:17,000 --> 04:57:40,000 Is about getting different groups and outreach and police together to talk about the approaches of of working with the folks who are outside what that might look like and so you know that might have an effect on you know how we see people how we approach things so it's it would kind of live in this and the work for here if that if that makes sense. 1901 04:57:41,000 --> 04:58:00,000 And so it's something about you know we're getting the piece together we're having the you know while it's not on the priority list of the first few I'm starting to have discussions with folks that might be part of the action teams to be able to kind of work on this because yeah it's it's not necessarily. 1902 04:58:01,000 --> 04:58:10,000 directly spelled out here but in this I think a lot of the action a lot of the foundation for work in this these areas can happen. 1903 04:58:10,000 --> 04:58:14,000 Okay. 1904 04:58:14,000 --> 04:58:19,000 Go ahead comes for me. I just just another compound comment I guess Erica. 1905 04:58:19,000 --> 04:58:25,000 Councilor Chase talked about the the work program and bucks for whatever. 1906 04:58:25,000 --> 04:58:38,000 I'd like to see I mean I'm speaking frankly I'd like to see something like this and it's not pressure on you but I think it'd be nice to have we had a timeline here or forecast I'd like to see something implemented by next summer actually. 1907 04:58:38,000 --> 04:58:43,000 And I the way I envision it and I'll certainly help out all again because I'm on the. 1908 04:58:43,000 --> 04:58:54,000 One of my communities is the biz and I got to experience with this before but I really think it comes with Chase said a partnership with the private sectors well. 1909 04:58:54,000 --> 04:58:58,000 I don't think and I don't think it should be solely court directed. 1910 04:58:59,000 --> 04:59:04,000 There was a program that the Winnipeg did years ago and we actually brought folks to come to canard to talk about it. 1911 04:59:04,000 --> 04:59:15,000 We've sponsored by the business called the most team which most stood for mission off the streets and it was designed to there was a small component that was. 1912 04:59:15,000 --> 04:59:23,000 Court like it was the court referrals but the majority of the team was not made up of they weren't they weren't just us involved. 1913 04:59:23,000 --> 04:59:32,000 And I think if you rely too much on the justice system it's kind of feast or famine type thing and certainly comes with this share of. 1914 04:59:32,000 --> 04:59:37,000 Challenges will put it that way so I think it can be. 1915 04:59:37,000 --> 04:59:46,000 There are other templates out there where it's an amalgamation of you know people that are just working they're just employed and they're doing this. 1916 04:59:46,000 --> 04:59:54,000 Either puts you the town or whatever this corporation is and some are or string to the court through the courts. 1917 04:59:54,000 --> 05:00:00,000 So I think you know we look at it that way and sort of craft it uniquely that something that best. 1918 05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:24,000 Our needs here in Canara, we can get it up and running. And I think start it off with, you know, we don't need to be, like on a grand scale, just start it off and get it working. And I think we'll build off that. But I'm more than happy to be involved, you know, and anything moving forward, especially as far as the business concerned. And I think, you know, there's a lot of opportunity for partnerships. 1919 05:00:24,000 --> 05:00:32,000 With our agencies, with the private sector, with, you know, with the soldier or bag, involvement. 1920 05:00:32,000 --> 05:00:41,000 I think many hands makes, like, work is a, the more we can get involved, the better. But I think we can come up with something by, by some of the hope. 1921 05:00:41,000 --> 05:00:43,000 Well, just put that out there. So, okay. 1922 05:00:43,000 --> 05:00:50,000 It's certainly, you know, it's not fresh on you, but I would just like to, in your world, I'd love to see something. I'm sure we all would like to see something, you know, 1923 05:00:50,000 --> 05:01:02,000 and I think this is, you know, there are a lot of things to, to be said about, you know, preliminary discussions to getting the idea and then working towards that. 1924 05:01:02,000 --> 05:01:11,000 And, and the idea that programs can adjust as needed. And that, I'll talk about that later, but they're, needle disposal pilot project. 1925 05:01:11,000 --> 05:01:17,000 I think that we're taking that approach, just to be able to get it out, right, and see where it goes, right. 1926 05:01:17,000 --> 05:01:20,000 Okay, I'll talk to you next time. 1927 05:01:20,000 --> 05:01:32,000 Eric, your, your title is coordinator. Is it also more champion of the gloss? If, if you're hearing out there, let's use the butts for great. 1928 05:01:32,000 --> 05:01:41,000 People want to see a group of people down, down all the time. Is it your job to find who can do that? 1929 05:01:41,000 --> 05:01:45,000 Or what's your job in that instant? 1930 05:01:45,000 --> 05:02:00,000 Well, I mean, I work with the implementation committee, so I, you know, I take my lead from, from that, but it also is to, to help connect and bring that up. If, if there is a call for that, yeah, for sure. I'm open to meetings and bring that. 1931 05:02:00,000 --> 05:02:04,000 I'm deciding where to even look. 1932 05:02:04,000 --> 05:02:07,000 To look for, like, so much for great. 1933 05:02:07,000 --> 05:02:12,000 Do you, do you go to the city? Do you go to the city? Do you go to bills? Do you, who does that? 1934 05:02:12,000 --> 05:02:21,000 Oh, I, I, I would do that. So I would have internal discussions. And so I, I will say I've been in in touch with the, the chamber of commerce. 1935 05:02:21,000 --> 05:02:25,000 Um, about some ideas about possible things that that we're talking about. 1936 05:02:25,000 --> 05:02:27,000 And if you get a know then what? 1937 05:02:27,000 --> 05:02:30,000 Then you just keep on, you keep on seeing. 1938 05:02:30,000 --> 05:02:38,000 You see, see where else where it could land. Also, I, I should say I talk to, um, you know, to my supervisor. 1939 05:02:38,000 --> 05:02:44,000 And, you know, you should, to see kind of what we can do within the city. I mean, there are some things that, you know, we have, and I will say, 1940 05:02:44,000 --> 05:02:51,000 Um, I've had a very, um, good collaboration with different departments within the city. 1941 05:02:51,000 --> 05:02:58,000 I'm not talking about that to be able to do that. I think the one commonality that we have that I've seen is everyone wants to be better. 1942 05:02:58,000 --> 05:03:04,000 Like, I haven't really met anybody using, like, oh, we're fine. This is all good. Like, everyone does it. How can we, how can we get there? 1943 05:03:04,000 --> 05:03:07,000 There may be differences of opinion. How we reach that. 1944 05:03:07,000 --> 05:03:16,000 But as we talk about that and we collaborate, you know, maybe there's something that we can try it. And I think people are at the stage where they're, they're wanting to try different things. 1945 05:03:16,000 --> 05:03:22,000 And I think the big thing is different organizations aren't really aware of what each other is doing. 1946 05:03:22,000 --> 05:03:32,000 And I think part of our job is to get the message out there. The city is already dedicated so many people to clean up downtown or whatever it is. 1947 05:03:32,000 --> 05:03:36,000 But I think knowledge is worth a million dollars sometimes. 1948 05:03:36,000 --> 05:03:41,000 Right. And that's part of my position is to kind of be the conduit for the city. 1949 05:03:41,000 --> 05:03:45,000 So, you know, I'm the city's representative for the HubHearts during committee. 1950 05:03:45,000 --> 05:03:50,000 So there's really good work there. I think I'll leave it up to the heart. 1951 05:03:50,000 --> 05:03:54,000 Which are, we'll be able to kind of have their communications about that. 1952 05:03:54,000 --> 05:03:58,000 But I can tell you, like, you know, a lot of things that we wanted to happen in the plan. 1953 05:03:58,000 --> 05:04:02,000 So the calls from the community, better collaboration, better communication. 1954 05:04:02,000 --> 05:04:10,000 They're definitely top of mind for these efforts, just like, you know, with an A&HP within other groups. 1955 05:04:10,000 --> 05:04:13,000 Sorry. 1956 05:04:13,000 --> 05:04:19,000 Yeah. I've been taking up a lot of your time. So I just wanted to, it's in the report. 1957 05:04:19,000 --> 05:04:27,000 Again, if you wanted to see, if you go to the needle disposal work group, again, that's another project that we're going to launch in the next couple of years. 1958 05:04:27,000 --> 05:04:30,000 And in the next couple weeks, we're just working on the communications. 1959 05:04:30,000 --> 05:04:38,000 For that, you can actually go to the website, if you want report needles.ca, if you pull it on your phone, you'll see that. 1960 05:04:38,000 --> 05:04:45,000 We're just talking with a developer about some, to give some feedback about functionality. 1961 05:04:45,000 --> 05:04:56,000 And it's in the plan. And as well, you know, there is work that's being, is going on with a net team as well with, we had an ad hoc. 1962 05:04:56,000 --> 05:05:11,000 And that's in this quarter, but we had an ad hoc site assessment that we did for the area behind shell and so we're putting that report together to build the pass on with our recommendations. 1963 05:05:11,000 --> 05:05:12,000 Okay. 1964 05:05:12,000 --> 05:05:14,000 Another question there. 1965 05:05:14,000 --> 05:05:15,000 Thanks, sir. 1966 05:05:15,000 --> 05:05:17,000 Okay. Thanks, Mayor. 1967 05:05:17,000 --> 05:05:25,000 Moving on the agenda, 6.5.4, improving safety and connectivity on murder and highways as it could see. 1968 05:05:25,000 --> 05:05:29,000 So, this is mine, but yours. 1969 05:05:29,000 --> 05:05:33,000 Because you're on the normal board. 1970 05:05:33,000 --> 05:05:37,000 So, what's the total work for you? 1971 05:05:37,000 --> 05:05:38,000 Want me to speak to you? 1972 05:05:38,000 --> 05:05:39,000 Yeah, that's for you. 1973 05:05:39,000 --> 05:05:42,000 I just put my name on the report. 1974 05:05:42,000 --> 05:05:44,000 And we just appreciate that. 1975 05:05:44,000 --> 05:05:50,000 So, yeah, this is, I mean, this isn't a new idea. 1976 05:05:50,000 --> 05:05:56,000 I think it's been going on for years, even in this just small area. 1977 05:05:56,000 --> 05:06:01,000 We've been advocating for 20, but the, 1978 05:06:02,000 --> 05:06:11,000 It started, it really picked up steam at the Emo last year when we met with the Minister of Transportation. 1979 05:06:11,000 --> 05:06:14,000 As a normal board. 1980 05:06:14,000 --> 05:06:24,000 We actually had a lot of, we had about a 45 minute session of face time with the Minister and staff. 1981 05:06:24,000 --> 05:06:31,000 I mean, then the mowana, the trying explained what, again, the uniqueness of Northern, Northwest, 1982 05:06:31,000 --> 05:06:36,000 Material, you know, explaining that the Transcan highway. 1983 05:06:36,000 --> 05:06:41,000 Actually, it connects the country, and it comes right through here and right throughout, 1984 05:06:41,000 --> 05:06:45,000 You have to sometimes you have to provide geography lessons. 1985 05:06:45,000 --> 05:06:50,000 But, you know, so, it continued to advocate on that. 1986 05:06:50,000 --> 05:06:57,000 I mean, there was a bit of stuff in the last federal budget or the budget that's in the 1987 05:06:57,000 --> 05:07:04,000 He hasn't been passed yet, but it's, or I guess it has been passed, no. 1988 05:07:04,000 --> 05:07:11,000 You know, recognizing that, and fairness to the rental government, they can't do it alone. 1989 05:07:11,000 --> 05:07:14,000 I mean, the province is too vast. 1990 05:07:14,000 --> 05:07:23,000 So it's, you know, the two plus one highway design, you know, is the next best thing to 1991 05:07:23,000 --> 05:07:24,000 20. 1992 05:07:24,000 --> 05:07:26,000 They've modeled it. 1993 05:07:26,000 --> 05:07:29,000 They do it in other countries. 1994 05:07:29,000 --> 05:07:30,000 And it works. 1995 05:07:30,000 --> 05:07:32,000 It's fairly cost-effective. 1996 05:07:32,000 --> 05:07:34,000 It's a lot quicker. 1997 05:07:34,000 --> 05:07:42,000 And, you know, short of that, you know, more passing lanes and passing lanes that are 1998 05:07:43,000 --> 05:07:48,000 are not two kilometers long, which is ridiculous, because it causes more accidents and 1999 05:07:48,000 --> 05:07:49,000 it stops. 2000 05:07:49,000 --> 05:07:51,000 Because you're rushing, right? 2001 05:07:51,000 --> 05:07:54,000 And they have most, sort of, west of Thunder Bay. 2002 05:07:54,000 --> 05:07:59,000 There's a couple there that are, like, 10 kilometers long. 2003 05:07:59,000 --> 05:08:01,000 And it clears traffic. 2004 05:08:01,000 --> 05:08:07,000 And it makes a huge difference at that far end of, like, highway 17. 2005 05:08:07,000 --> 05:08:17,000 It's not the end all beyond, but it's something that's a lot better than we have now. 2006 05:08:17,000 --> 05:08:25,000 But they'll continue to do this and advocate because they think it's not important. 2007 05:08:25,000 --> 05:08:31,000 And there are, when you hear from other colleagues on Nomah that live on the highway 11 connector 2008 05:08:31,000 --> 05:08:38,000 piece, like, they said there's no, there's hardly any even shoulders to pull for, like, 2009 05:08:38,000 --> 05:08:42,000 30, 40, 50 kilometers. 2010 05:08:42,000 --> 05:08:48,000 Unless you get into a business or a community or whatever, no passing lanes whatsoever. 2011 05:08:48,000 --> 05:08:55,000 And then, again, that's the next leg going north if something, because, you know, along the 2012 05:08:55,000 --> 05:08:58,000 north shore, you talk about being closed here. 2013 05:08:58,000 --> 05:09:00,000 It's closed there all the time. 2014 05:09:00,000 --> 05:09:04,000 So a lot of them we wrote up 11. 2015 05:09:04,000 --> 05:09:06,000 And the conditions just start there. 2016 05:09:06,000 --> 05:09:12,000 And, you know, truck traffic, and all the economic developments that they're talking about in the north. 2017 05:09:12,000 --> 05:09:20,000 It becomes, it becomes imperative that something's done, because we know how long planning takes 2018 05:09:20,000 --> 05:09:27,000 to, you know, even put six kilometers of 20 in here, it took a decade. 2019 05:09:27,000 --> 05:09:33,000 So, yeah, it's just, you know, continue to advocate to see. 2020 05:09:33,000 --> 05:09:39,000 And hopefully, hopefully, we'd look at it favorably. 2021 05:09:39,000 --> 05:09:45,000 And, you know, it's, is at the end all beyond, no, but it's going to reach enough people that 2022 05:09:45,000 --> 05:09:52,000 we're, we're committed to this and continue to be lobby and advocate on behalf of all of 2023 05:09:52,000 --> 05:09:59,000 North, North, Northwestern, Northern Ontario, because we all have the same, again, issue in this case. 2024 05:09:59,000 --> 05:10:07,000 So that's kind of what it's all about, and spurred out of a meeting with, like, through 2025 05:10:08,000 --> 05:10:11,000 a question. 2026 05:10:11,000 --> 05:10:14,000 Okay, thank you. 2027 05:10:14,000 --> 05:10:22,000 Okay, moving on the agenda, 6.5.5 mandatory water safety advocacy. 2028 05:10:22,000 --> 05:10:26,000 Okay, so, yeah. 2029 05:10:26,000 --> 05:10:34,000 So, this is a advocacy report that has been circulating once many municipalities within Ontario, 2030 05:10:34,000 --> 05:10:41,000 and this is following, this was originated in Dryden when they had a tragic event in their community, 2031 05:10:41,000 --> 05:10:44,000 pertaining to children drowning. 2032 05:10:44,000 --> 05:10:55,000 And so, this advocacy has been circulating and, to support, really, the implementing mandatory water safety programming. 2033 05:10:55,000 --> 05:10:59,000 So, that would be through the Minister of Education. 2034 05:10:59,000 --> 05:11:06,000 Other communities are taking initiative in their communities to do different things outside of this, 2035 05:11:06,000 --> 05:11:10,000 such as life-saving devices at their beaches and, and dogs. 2036 05:11:10,000 --> 05:11:18,000 So, those are other things that I've seen through the different situations. 2037 05:11:18,000 --> 05:11:21,000 Any questions, council? 2038 05:11:21,000 --> 05:11:24,000 Okay, thank you. 2039 05:11:24,000 --> 05:11:32,000 So, moving on the agenda, you have 6.5.6, we have corporate services, Q3 report, 2040 05:11:32,000 --> 05:11:37,000 and then you want to flip back to higher-neurgency services? 2041 05:11:37,000 --> 05:11:38,000 Services? 2042 05:11:38,000 --> 05:11:40,000 Or do you, or just see if we have questions? 2043 05:11:40,000 --> 05:11:43,000 Yeah, if there's any questions, I mean, I can speak to you. 2044 05:11:43,000 --> 05:11:45,000 And then we can move on to active. 2045 05:11:45,000 --> 05:11:46,000 Sure. 2046 05:11:46,000 --> 05:11:47,000 Okay. 2047 05:11:47,000 --> 05:11:48,000 Thank you. 2048 05:11:48,000 --> 05:11:52,000 Just briefly, cover the highlights from my team. 2049 05:11:52,000 --> 05:11:55,000 A lot of property standards in Q3. 2050 05:11:55,000 --> 05:12:01,000 A lot of property standards matters getting closed before we get into the winter season, 2051 05:12:01,000 --> 05:12:03,000 which is always important. 2052 05:12:03,000 --> 05:12:10,000 So, they had 63 completed property standards matters in Q3, which is a high volume. 2053 05:12:10,000 --> 05:12:17,000 We have two new officers in by-law enforcement, and only one train certified property standards officers. 2054 05:12:17,000 --> 05:12:22,000 So, that really puts a lot of pressure on one officer who is the certified officer 2055 05:12:22,000 --> 05:12:30,000 to conduct those property standards, depending on if they have to go to charges, 2056 05:12:30,000 --> 05:12:34,000 or if it's just voluntary compliance. 2057 05:12:34,000 --> 05:12:37,000 But it's still working with those property owners. 2058 05:12:37,000 --> 05:12:39,000 Councilor Chase. 2059 05:12:39,000 --> 05:12:40,000 Thank you. 2060 05:12:40,000 --> 05:12:44,000 We're just a quick question about sort of property standards and by-law enforcement. 2061 05:12:45,000 --> 05:12:47,000 How I want to phrase this. 2062 05:12:47,000 --> 05:12:53,000 Is this still sort of complaints based driven or is the, and there's just so much workload, 2063 05:12:53,000 --> 05:12:59,000 or is it something that, you know, the officer and individuals able to be proactive about, 2064 05:12:59,000 --> 05:13:03,000 you know, enforcing our property standards by-law? 2065 05:13:03,000 --> 05:13:09,000 So, I would love to say that it is more proactive than reactive. 2066 05:13:09,000 --> 05:13:17,000 But unfortunately, right now, it's, it's primarily driven by complaints because of the volume of complaints. 2067 05:13:17,000 --> 05:13:23,000 So, the officers, you know, have been both the manager and supervisor, have, you know, 2068 05:13:23,000 --> 05:13:30,000 talked to the officers about being proactive when you're driving by something and you see something, put it on the list. 2069 05:13:30,000 --> 05:13:32,000 It depends on the severity. 2070 05:13:33,000 --> 05:13:39,000 If, obviously, if they saw something that was more significant than something that's already been logged as a, 2071 05:13:39,000 --> 05:13:45,000 as a service request or as a complaint, then they would prioritize that. 2072 05:13:45,000 --> 05:13:51,000 But right now, it's keeping up, summer is always the highest of volume of complaints. 2073 05:13:51,000 --> 05:13:59,000 And if we could get a little more compliance, self-compliance, and there was not this mandatory steps to take them through, 2074 05:13:59,000 --> 05:14:03,000 you have to comply or you're going, you know, we're going to lead to charges. 2075 05:14:03,000 --> 05:14:09,000 If it's not court processes and all of those things, all of that takes a tremendous amount of time. 2076 05:14:09,000 --> 05:14:18,000 And some people are really quick to say, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know I can't do that and they comply and others don't care. 2077 05:14:18,000 --> 05:14:21,000 So, that takes a lot of the officers time. 2078 05:14:21,000 --> 05:14:28,000 So, the goal is to get to where we are doing a lot more proactive enforcement when comes to property standards. 2079 05:14:28,000 --> 05:14:32,000 But I can't say one thing. 2080 05:14:58,000 --> 05:15:00,000 I can't say one thing. 2081 05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:29,000 I can definitely take that back to the, you know, department if they're seeing common themes in certain areas. I know that several years ago planning developed a great promotional brochure on 2082 05:15:29,000 --> 05:15:39,000 what you can do when it comes to zoning with, you know, campers, trailers, boats, all of those time. And that was on our website now. 2083 05:15:39,000 --> 05:15:52,000 I don't know if that's still on our website, but I can follow up with that to see if there is common themes and what we could do a little more proactive communication on for sure. 2084 05:15:52,000 --> 05:16:01,000 Okay. So, Councillor Manson will be happy to see that there are more service requests that are closed. 2085 05:16:01,000 --> 05:16:14,000 During the season, a lot of requests that come in and so kind of how I've explained service requests are it depends on when the service request comes in and when it is closed. 2086 05:16:14,000 --> 05:16:25,000 So, for example, snow plow damage that is done in the wintertime, the crews can't get to that until the spring or summer. So that service request is going to sit there outstanding until that work can get done. 2087 05:16:25,000 --> 05:16:41,000 So, you see a lot more service requests closing. I will say that we've seen, this is more of a queue heading into a queue for, but we've seen a lot of, we've seen a big decline in service requests in our roads area, 2088 05:16:41,000 --> 05:16:59,000 which has been great news. There's been a lot of good work happening there and a lot of things getting done. So that's full kudos to the team over in the road department because it's also reflected into my team who are taking those calls and managing those service requests. 2089 05:16:59,000 --> 05:17:21,000 So, IT launched an onboarding and off-boarding process for internal, is more of an internal thing, but it is really freed up a lot of time for managers and supervisors. So that's a positive, employee experience. It's also positive for the new employees who are coming on and being onboarded. So it's just technical process. 2090 05:17:21,000 --> 05:17:44,000 We've had a strong Q3 as usual, 10% increase in completed trips, which I don't know how they're squeezing out any more trips, but they are managing to get a little more every time, by really tweaking the algorithms and the amount of time that hours on the road. 2091 05:17:44,000 --> 05:18:04,000 I was told that some of the schools back onto the water safety things, some of the schools are because of the increased cost of busing, are considering trying to book all of the way plans to take kids to swimming lessons. 2092 05:18:04,000 --> 05:18:10,000 How are we doing about this sort of monopolizing the service? 2093 05:18:10,000 --> 05:18:14,000 I don't honestly believe it would ever work. 2094 05:18:14,000 --> 05:18:16,000 They're talking about it. 2095 05:18:16,000 --> 05:18:28,000 They're such a high demand, so it's a good problem to have. So the investment that Council has made in the wave has driven over 200% increase in our public transportation. 2096 05:18:28,000 --> 05:18:37,000 So more people are writing it, people that have never rid it before are now taking advantage of writing public transportation, which is a good thing. 2097 05:18:37,000 --> 05:18:50,000 But on the flip side in order to increase the amount of available vehicles and hours and days requires more funding and public transportation is highly subsidized. 2098 05:18:50,000 --> 05:19:01,000 So because the demand is so high, there's no way they'll have, they'll be able to access enough vehicles to get that many students. 2099 05:19:01,000 --> 05:19:10,000 These classrooms sizes are over 30 now. There's no way you'll get enough van, we don't even have enough fans on the road to accommodate that all going at the same time. 2100 05:19:10,000 --> 05:19:18,000 So you can see the rides per hour. So if you really broke down the rides per hour in the number of students, they'll never be able to make that work. 2101 05:19:18,000 --> 05:19:28,000 So it might be something that they've never approached me about that or had a conversation with me about it, but I just don't think it's feasible. 2102 05:19:28,000 --> 05:19:38,000 There's no unused hours in the day where the demand isn't there, and you can't pre-book, so it's on demand. 2103 05:19:38,000 --> 05:19:53,000 Website, so my did a great presentation this morning, just on our website redesign, there's still some work needed to be done in a few areas, but that continues. 2104 05:19:53,000 --> 05:20:00,000 The Thistle Arena Concrete's Lab War, the video that was done. 2105 05:20:00,000 --> 05:20:08,000 We've had almost 16,000 views on that video, and 11,000 unique viewers. 2106 05:20:08,000 --> 05:20:14,000 So that is a big outreach, right? And communications is working hard on video. 2107 05:20:14,000 --> 05:20:20,000 You've seen Greg, I think we're going to take him out of his director of infrastructure and operations, 2108 05:20:20,000 --> 05:20:26,000 sort of into our video master, because he likes to do videos. He can take on a new role. 2109 05:20:26,000 --> 05:20:38,000 But we're seeing where, you know, when I know that more video was important to council, and we are really trying to listen to that and use video whenever we can. 2110 05:20:38,000 --> 05:20:48,000 And then there's going to be important change to the social media metrics in terms, so we're working through that process through the comms department. 2111 05:20:48,000 --> 05:20:50,000 That's it for me. 2112 05:20:50,000 --> 05:20:52,000 Thanks, Heather. 2113 05:20:52,000 --> 05:20:54,000 No other questions, people. 2114 05:20:54,000 --> 05:21:04,000 So would we like to move back then to just to see if there's any questions to 6.3 fire emergency services? 2115 05:21:04,000 --> 05:21:08,000 We have the municipal emergency management program amendment. 2116 05:21:08,000 --> 05:21:09,000 Yeah. 2117 05:21:09,000 --> 05:21:10,000 Are you comfortable? 2118 05:21:10,000 --> 05:21:11,000 Yeah. 2119 05:21:11,000 --> 05:21:19,000 So this is our emergency management program, which is passed by by law, and that's required by the Ministry to pass that by law. 2120 05:21:19,000 --> 05:21:27,000 And what we've discovered is that as we've tried to work through our annual reporting requirements, 2121 05:21:27,000 --> 05:21:32,000 the emergency control group must meet twice a year. 2122 05:21:32,000 --> 05:21:39,000 And we also must have an organized training, which is usually a mock event of some types. 2123 05:21:39,000 --> 05:21:44,000 Sometimes it's tabletop and sometimes it's in person. 2124 05:21:44,000 --> 05:21:54,000 But the actual emergency management control group, which is a small group, and then they bring in the larger group is big. 2125 05:21:54,000 --> 05:21:59,000 It's you have to have 100% of the membership there to count that you met. 2126 05:21:59,000 --> 05:22:03,000 So if one person's missing, you didn't meet. 2127 05:22:03,000 --> 05:22:11,000 So all of these people don't need to be part of the main core, so you see we've stripped down who forms part of the main control group. 2128 05:22:11,000 --> 05:22:22,000 And then the rest of the program committee is expanded, and so we're just changing who those people are. 2129 05:22:22,000 --> 05:22:26,000 Rolls, not people. 2130 05:22:26,000 --> 05:22:29,000 Any questions? 2131 05:22:29,000 --> 05:22:31,000 Okay. 2132 05:22:31,000 --> 05:22:35,000 Move on 6.3.2. 2133 05:22:35,000 --> 05:22:39,000 Do I do the Q3 report or just see if there's any questions? 2134 05:22:39,000 --> 05:22:45,000 I think just if they're chief Howard, I did say to him, I mean, his report is pretty straightforward. 2135 05:22:45,000 --> 05:22:50,000 And I think if there was any questions, I would take it back to him. 2136 05:22:51,000 --> 05:22:54,000 All of the stats in the data are there for council to review? 2137 05:22:54,000 --> 05:22:55,000 No questions. 2138 05:22:55,000 --> 05:22:58,000 Okay. 2139 05:22:58,000 --> 05:22:59,000 Okay. 2140 05:22:59,000 --> 05:23:03,000 So then we can move back to 6.6. 2141 05:23:03,000 --> 05:23:05,000 We have 6.6.1. 2142 05:23:05,000 --> 05:23:09,000 Economic development tours. 2143 05:23:09,000 --> 05:23:12,000 Thank you very much. 2144 05:23:12,000 --> 05:23:19,000 So again, quarterly reports are always an opportunity to highlight the great work of staff. 2145 05:23:19,000 --> 05:23:26,000 Highlights for this particular quarterly report would be great Canadian docs setting up shop in Canora. 2146 05:23:26,000 --> 05:23:29,000 We were successful. 2147 05:23:29,000 --> 05:23:30,000 Excuse me. 2148 05:23:30,000 --> 05:23:31,000 Sorry. 2149 05:23:31,000 --> 05:23:33,000 I just got a text. 2150 05:23:33,000 --> 05:23:34,000 My name is going to start. 2151 05:23:34,000 --> 05:23:35,000 My Canadian name. 2152 05:23:35,000 --> 05:23:37,000 I guess they got everybody there. 2153 05:23:37,000 --> 05:23:39,000 So if we could. 2154 05:23:39,000 --> 05:23:41,000 Sorry. 2155 05:23:41,000 --> 05:23:46,000 I don't know. 2156 05:23:47,000 --> 05:23:48,000 I'll be. 2157 05:23:48,000 --> 05:23:50,000 I'm hoping so. 2158 05:23:50,000 --> 05:23:51,000 So good. 2159 05:23:51,000 --> 05:23:52,000 Okay. 2160 05:23:52,000 --> 05:23:54,000 Excuse me. 2161 05:23:54,000 --> 05:23:58,000 Excuse me. 2162 05:23:58,000 --> 05:24:00,000 Okay. 2163 05:24:00,000 --> 05:24:02,000 Okay. 2164 05:24:02,000 --> 05:24:03,000 Okay. 2165 05:24:03,000 --> 05:24:04,000 Okay. 2166 05:24:04,000 --> 05:24:06,000 Okay. 2167 05:24:06,000 --> 05:24:07,000 Okay. 2168 05:24:07,000 --> 05:24:08,000 Okay. 2169 05:24:08,000 --> 05:24:09,000 Okay. 2170 05:24:09,000 --> 05:24:10,000 Thank you. 2171 05:24:10,000 --> 05:24:14,000 Sorry. 2172 05:24:15,000 --> 05:24:32,000 No problem at all. 2173 05:24:32,000 --> 05:24:37,000 So great Canadian docs came to us in January of this year. 2174 05:24:37,000 --> 05:24:40,000 And we did the ribbon cutting in July. 2175 05:24:40,000 --> 05:24:45,000 And it's a success in terms of being able to turn a just an idea around. 2176 05:24:45,000 --> 05:24:49,000 To actually securing space and doing a ribbon cutting. 2177 05:24:49,000 --> 05:24:54,000 And we have heard back from them that they have had a very successful year. 2178 05:24:54,000 --> 05:24:56,000 So they're very happy with their decision to move to Canora. 2179 05:24:56,000 --> 05:24:58,000 So that's that's really good. 2180 05:24:58,000 --> 05:25:02,000 A couple of other highlights is the continued advocacy that we do. 2181 05:25:02,000 --> 05:25:07,000 This is in a largely Allison on the immigration front. 2182 05:25:08,000 --> 05:25:10,000 Her work with the Northern Policy Institute. 2183 05:25:10,000 --> 05:25:13,000 Now that work has evolved into. 2184 05:25:13,000 --> 05:25:26,000 Noma getting involved in the mayor getting involved in other mirrors getting involved in terms of advocacy on the immigration front. 2185 05:25:26,000 --> 05:25:29,000 I should mention the youth enterprise day cap. 2186 05:25:29,000 --> 05:25:34,000 Like my kids both went to Biscuits when they were like, you know, under 10 years old. 2187 05:25:34,000 --> 05:25:39,000 And it had a profound effect on them in terms of who they are as adults now. 2188 05:25:39,000 --> 05:25:45,000 Making the decision to, you know, live in Winnipeg or live in Canora, so we get educated in Winnipeg and come back. 2189 05:25:45,000 --> 05:25:48,000 And, you know, one of the two is an entrepreneur. 2190 05:25:48,000 --> 05:25:51,000 So that seed was planted through Biscuits. 2191 05:25:51,000 --> 05:25:55,000 So this youth entrepreneurship day cap that the city puts on in an annual basis. 2192 05:25:55,000 --> 05:26:03,000 I think it's terrific to expose young people to to to new ideas and things and opportunities for the future. 2193 05:26:03,000 --> 05:26:11,000 Just want to mention the Northwest Business Center and all the work that's been going on there. 2194 05:26:11,000 --> 05:26:21,000 And the work in particularly with the started company with 33 applications coming in and 14 businesses going through the program. 2195 05:26:21,000 --> 05:26:25,000 And then just tourism in general. 2196 05:26:25,000 --> 05:26:28,000 They run flat out for four months a year. 2197 05:26:28,000 --> 05:26:36,000 There's a number of different initiatives identified in the quarterly report handled by our tourism department who continue to do great things. 2198 05:26:36,000 --> 05:26:39,000 And there's a reason why people come back. 2199 05:26:39,000 --> 05:26:46,000 You know, I think it's 86 to 89 percent of the time that people have been here nine and more times. 2200 05:26:46,000 --> 05:26:49,000 They report and intent. This is not seasonal residents. 2201 05:26:49,000 --> 05:26:51,000 This is visitors that they plan on coming back. 2202 05:26:51,000 --> 05:26:54,000 It's because they come here and they have a good time. 2203 05:26:54,000 --> 05:27:00,000 That's largely because the effort that our tourism staff do, but all the other staff that support tourism as well. 2204 05:27:00,000 --> 05:27:07,000 Like parks and such in terms of making sure that things look right for for the visitors that come here. 2205 05:27:07,000 --> 05:27:10,000 So show to the tourism staff. 2206 05:27:10,000 --> 05:27:13,000 I know that they're probably ready to curl up in a ball. 2207 05:27:13,000 --> 05:27:16,000 Come late September and have a nap for about a month. 2208 05:27:16,000 --> 05:27:19,000 So happy to answer any questions. 2209 05:27:20,000 --> 05:27:23,000 Can you have it? 2210 05:27:25,000 --> 05:27:27,000 It's more of a comment than a question. 2211 05:27:27,000 --> 05:27:30,000 I've been involved in a few things down at the tent. 2212 05:27:30,000 --> 05:27:35,000 And I just want to say the amount of work they do in a short period of time. 2213 05:27:35,000 --> 05:27:39,000 Keeping that place clean and flipping it from event to event. 2214 05:27:39,000 --> 05:27:43,000 And Morgan seems to be living there day and night. 2215 05:27:43,000 --> 05:27:45,000 You know, I'm sure everyone does. 2216 05:27:45,000 --> 05:27:50,000 But she's just, I mean, it's an handheld down there. 2217 05:27:50,000 --> 05:27:55,000 And we really, I really appreciate everything that happens there. 2218 05:27:55,000 --> 05:27:58,000 And it seems to be a magnet for tourists. 2219 05:27:58,000 --> 05:27:59,000 Thank you for that. 2220 05:27:59,000 --> 05:28:06,000 We did a, we had a student stand there and count people at the Medielski's farmer market through one entrance. 2221 05:28:06,000 --> 05:28:10,000 There was 5,000 people that went through on a Wednesday. 2222 05:28:10,000 --> 05:28:14,000 And when we do our planning session for next summer. 2223 05:28:14,000 --> 05:28:17,000 I'll, I'll actually share with you the worksheet that we go through. 2224 05:28:17,000 --> 05:28:22,000 So each day, the number of staff that are required to actually manage the event, 2225 05:28:22,000 --> 05:28:23,000 but not only transition the event. 2226 05:28:23,000 --> 05:28:28,000 Because sometimes your, your got four hours or something like that to do a major change. 2227 05:28:28,000 --> 05:28:32,000 And you're, and thank you for recognizing all staff that are there. 2228 05:28:32,000 --> 05:28:33,000 It's a real team effort. 2229 05:28:33,000 --> 05:28:36,000 And it's pretty amazing what they can do. 2230 05:28:36,000 --> 05:28:40,000 And again, it's all about having people have a good experience when they're there. 2231 05:28:41,000 --> 05:28:47,000 The next thing I just wanted to give you a chance to comment on was on a page for 19. 2232 05:28:47,000 --> 05:28:50,000 The table, summary table of events, attended. 2233 05:28:50,000 --> 05:28:51,000 Yes. 2234 05:28:51,000 --> 05:28:53,000 The business is its number. 2235 05:28:53,000 --> 05:28:56,000 Like the rest of the data sort of remains stable. 2236 05:28:56,000 --> 05:28:57,000 But that's one that doesn't. 2237 05:28:57,000 --> 05:29:00,000 And when you're, you could just let us know what goes on there. 2238 05:29:00,000 --> 05:29:01,000 And why that's not. 2239 05:29:01,000 --> 05:29:02,000 Yeah. 2240 05:29:02,000 --> 05:29:07,000 So Q3 is typically a drop down because that's our busy season for our businesses. 2241 05:29:07,000 --> 05:29:09,000 So we allow them to run their businesses. 2242 05:29:09,000 --> 05:29:13,000 And then that will pop back up again as we start to get ready for our Q4 events. 2243 05:29:13,000 --> 05:29:16,000 You know, the spoiler alert. 2244 05:29:16,000 --> 05:29:18,000 There's for the holiday trail. 2245 05:29:18,000 --> 05:29:20,000 There's 24 businesses that have signed up. 2246 05:29:20,000 --> 05:29:22,000 Each time that a business signs up for that. 2247 05:29:22,000 --> 05:29:25,000 That's, you know, one or two or three individual meeting people with people. 2248 05:29:25,000 --> 05:29:29,000 So it's, we just let people run their business and focus on their customer. 2249 05:29:29,000 --> 05:29:32,000 So that does dip down in Q3. 2250 05:29:32,000 --> 05:29:33,000 Yeah. 2251 05:29:35,000 --> 05:29:36,000 Go ahead. 2252 05:29:36,000 --> 05:29:41,000 Can you comment with all of you with the fall here and winter imminent? 2253 05:29:41,000 --> 05:29:45,000 About their snowball billing plan. 2254 05:29:45,000 --> 05:29:50,000 Is there any plans to do any projects with this snowball club? 2255 05:29:50,000 --> 05:29:51,000 Yeah. 2256 05:29:51,000 --> 05:29:52,000 Talk to you about it before. 2257 05:29:52,000 --> 05:29:56,000 But just increasing kind of that, you know, accessibility and that. 2258 05:29:56,000 --> 05:29:57,000 Yeah. 2259 05:29:57,000 --> 05:30:00,000 So for the last two years that were active. 2260 05:30:00,000 --> 05:30:16,000 We're funded by Matt in support of the snow club. And this year we haven't been approached for anything incremental. So some of the things that we would have had dealt with was the rest stop at the A&W and just cutting that trail that goes in there. 2261 05:30:16,000 --> 05:30:29,000 So that could occur. We did look at the potential to have some will be a traffic across at the A&W intersection, but determine that to be unsafe. We had the situation on the east side that you and I were both involved with. 2262 05:30:29,000 --> 05:30:50,000 And we cleaned that up. So fortunately we have staff that are actually on that club. And it's a pretty easy reach out if there is something that they need, you know, support with signager or something that they might be doing, where they need a financial contribution towards a, you know, some sort of marketing that they're doing, but we haven't heard anything as yet this year. 2263 05:30:50,000 --> 05:30:58,000 Anything as far as we talk years ago, what across town corridor is that even conversation anymore. 2264 05:30:58,000 --> 05:31:05,000 There's really nothing safe on the north side that would allow us to actually create that corridor. 2265 05:31:05,000 --> 05:31:14,000 So we're, you know, we're limited by, you know, a self entry, which is, yeah, it's just a lot of extra driving unfortunately. 2266 05:31:14,000 --> 05:31:37,000 And is there, like I guess this will pop them with conversation to the club, but any type of a big event, like a rally or anything like that, that could, you know, that we could have, like a, you know, we ever winter or winter carnival in the spring, but I think it kind of needed to track that sort of catch my area from Manitoba and to Canaro, is that ever been? 2267 05:31:37,000 --> 05:31:45,000 Not that I've been involved with, but I could certainly take that away because the one thing that we're really good at is, you know, our marketing and social media. 2268 05:31:45,000 --> 05:31:58,000 So if there's something that they want it to do as a way to either increase activity or maybe just get more people coming from out of province and buying passes here in that sort of thing that's something that we could support on the marketing front with. 2269 05:31:59,000 --> 05:32:06,000 Okay, I know, like we've had some success just like the farmers market and be great to have and the carnival is. 2270 05:32:06,000 --> 05:32:20,000 It's very, is great and the tree lighting and be great to have something centered around that because there's a lot of money to be spent here in Canaro and, you know, people that are in joy, snobby and generally have a bit of disposable income. 2271 05:32:20,000 --> 05:32:22,000 So anyway, thanks, thanks. 2272 05:32:22,000 --> 05:32:26,000 Yeah, they say when you come with a snowball bill, you just come with your wallet, right? 2273 05:32:26,000 --> 05:32:27,000 Yeah. 2274 05:32:27,000 --> 05:32:28,000 Come on. 2275 05:32:28,000 --> 05:32:29,000 Thank you. 2276 05:32:29,000 --> 05:32:30,000 Thank you. 2277 05:32:30,000 --> 05:32:32,000 I like the wood speedway. 2278 05:32:32,000 --> 05:32:35,000 Is it set up for snow machine racing? 2279 05:32:35,000 --> 05:32:37,000 Have any kind? 2280 05:32:37,000 --> 05:32:39,000 I do not. 2281 05:32:39,000 --> 05:32:41,000 No, I don't know the answer to that. 2282 05:32:41,000 --> 05:32:44,000 Yeah, because those used to be fun to watch. 2283 05:32:44,000 --> 05:32:49,000 I'll take that back to Josh. 2284 05:32:49,000 --> 05:32:50,000 Thank you. 2285 05:32:50,000 --> 05:32:54,000 So we'll be on thanks for that. 2286 05:32:55,000 --> 05:32:57,000 As your motion. 2287 05:32:57,000 --> 05:33:00,000 To John. 2288 05:33:00,000 --> 05:33:02,000 I have. 2289 05:33:02,000 --> 05:33:03,000 Part within your closure. 2290 05:33:03,000 --> 05:33:05,000 Number two, yeah. 2291 05:33:05,000 --> 05:33:07,000 Go ahead, Bart. 2292 05:33:07,000 --> 05:33:08,000 Okay. 2293 05:33:08,000 --> 05:33:09,000 Thank you. 2294 05:33:09,000 --> 05:33:10,000 We're moved by myself. 2295 05:33:10,000 --> 05:33:22,000 And seconded by council of Bernie, that person to section 239 of the Ms. Black 2001 as amended authorization for council to move into a closed session at 235 p.m. 2296 05:33:22,000 --> 05:33:25,000 to discuss items pertaining to the following. 2297 05:33:25,000 --> 05:33:31,000 Education and training members of council, one matter, development update, neighbor relations, one matter. 2298 05:33:31,000 --> 05:33:36,000 Council will be verbally reporting in a general sense and all items considered in the closed session. 2299 05:33:36,000 --> 05:33:40,000 Once we return from the closed session and move back to open session. 2300 05:33:52,000 --> 05:33:54,000 Thank you. 2301 05:34:22,000 --> 05:34:24,000 Thank you. 2302 05:34:52,000 --> 05:34:54,000 Thank you. 2303 05:35:22,000 --> 05:35:24,000 Thank you. 2304 05:35:52,000 --> 05:35:54,000 Thank you. 2305 05:36:22,000 --> 05:36:24,000 Thank you. 2306 05:36:52,000 --> 05:36:54,000 Thank you. 2307 05:37:22,000 --> 05:37:24,000 Thank you. 2308 05:37:52,000 --> 05:37:54,000 Thank you. 2309 05:38:22,000 --> 05:38:24,000 Thank you. 2310 05:38:52,000 --> 05:38:54,000 Thank you. 2311 05:39:22,000 --> 05:39:24,000 Thank you. 2312 05:39:52,000 --> 05:39:54,000 Thank you. 2313 05:40:22,000 --> 05:40:24,000 Thank you. 2314 05:40:52,000 --> 05:40:54,000 Thank you. 2315 05:41:22,000 --> 05:41:24,000 Thank you. 2316 05:41:52,000 --> 05:41:54,000 Thank you. 2317 05:42:22,000 --> 05:42:24,000 Thank you. 2318 05:42:52,000 --> 05:42:54,000 Thank you. 2319 05:43:22,000 --> 05:43:24,000 Thank you. 2320 05:43:52,000 --> 05:43:54,000 Thank you. 2321 05:44:22,000 --> 05:44:24,000 Thank you. 2322 05:44:52,000 --> 05:44:54,000 Thank you. 2323 07:31:00,000 --> 07:31:17,000 Welcome back. I'd like to pass it on to Councilor Chase too. 2324 07:31:17,000 --> 07:31:24,000 Thank you, Your Worship or Madam Deputy, Amy. So we have moved out of close back into open and just reporting 2325 07:31:24,000 --> 07:31:29,000 from our close session that we discussed development update and a labor relations matter and that no 2326 07:31:29,000 --> 07:31:31,000 direction has been given. 2327 07:31:31,000 --> 07:31:37,000 Okay. So can someone read the motion to adjourn? 2328 07:31:37,000 --> 07:31:41,000 The motion is a committee of all research to adjourn that for 30. 2329 07:31:41,000 --> 07:31:43,000 We're adjourned for 33. 2330 07:31:59,000 --> 07:32:01,000 We're adjourned for 33.