1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:06,600 You're going to call a county board meeting  to order. Start with the pledge of allegiance.   2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:14,240 [music] Allegiance to the flag of the United  States of America and to the republic for which   3 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:25,440 it stands. One nation under God, indivisible,  with liberty [clears throat] and justice for all. 4 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:45,920 Did you get any notice from here? 5 00:00:48,240 --> 00:01:04,480 Roll call. Supervisors. 6 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:12,000 There are 22 supervisors present.  Supervisor Carol is absent. 7 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,120 Okay. I think for the first time  we're going to have the youth in   8 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:27,280 governance introduce themselves here.  Start right on the end. Thank you. 9 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,600 It's on here right or is it gallery?  Which one is it? Kyle Prince,   10 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:42,800 Sam Sheen. Bruno Gonzalez. Smota. Sean Hawkins. 11 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:51,120 Thank you. And then we'll move  on to uh citizens comments. 12 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,960 Okay. 13 00:01:54,960 --> 00:02:00,160 Any citizens comments? Please  state your name and address. 14 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:08,400 Eric Meadows, 8320 82nd Street, Pleasant Prairie. 15 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:14,480 In 1774, the First Continental Congress, the  delegates of the First Continental Congress began   16 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:19,840 their first meeting by inviting Reverend Jacob  Duché, an Anglican Anglican clergyman, to give   17 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:25,280 an opening prayer. Some delegates initially  objected over denominational differences.   18 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:30,800 Sam Adams however supported it saying he could  hear a prayer from any pious and virtuous man   19 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,920 who is friend who is a friend to the country.  It was ultimately approved and the prayer was   20 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:40,720 given. After the first meeting, John Adams wrote  a letter to his wife Abigail telling her it was   21 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:46,960 a highly moving and unifying experience. Thus  started a tradition of beginning each session   22 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:53,040 with a prayer. When the first Congress under  the current constitution convened in 1789,   23 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,920 the practice was retained and has continued  ever since under both Democrat and Republican   24 00:02:57,920 --> 00:03:04,640 majorities. When the territory of Wisconsin  was formed in 1836, the Wisconsin territorial   25 00:03:04,640 --> 00:03:09,920 legislature followed suit and began all of their  meetings with a prayer. When we became a state in   26 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:15,280 1848, the state legislature again continued this  practice even though representatives differed in   27 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:20,800 their religious beliefs. Every one of you on this  county board are here because you share the same   28 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:27,120 goal to make Kosha County the best possible place  to live, a safe and a prosperous place. If you   29 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,920 did not have that goal, you would not be sitting  here today. [snorts] Each of us should seek every   30 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:37,680 possible avenue to achieve that goal. That is why  I submitted a proposed amendment to the municipal   31 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:43,680 code of Kenosha County to follow the 250-year  long long-standing tradition of seeking divine   32 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:50,320 guidance to help us achieve our shared goal.  That proposal would help us uh that proposal was   33 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:55,760 presented to the legislative committee last month  where it was voted down though not unanimously.   34 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:00,720 The [snorts] reasons given for voting against  it were a little outrageous to me. I was told   35 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:05,600 that there needs to be a separation of church and  state, a statement that does not reside in either   36 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:10,640 federal law nor state law. The very fact that  prayer has been given before every legislative   37 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:15,840 session on both the federal and state levels  proves that notion incorrect. The first amendment   38 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,840 of the United States Constitution prohibits  the government from establishing a religion   39 00:04:19,840 --> 00:04:24,560 and it prohibits the federal government from  interfering with its free exercise of religion   40 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:30,320 even in public spaces. I was told that there are  a lot of legal cases that prove that prayer at a   41 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:35,200 board meeting would not be a good idea. What  the committee failed to actually produce was   42 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:41,360 any legal case that stopped prayer from happening  either on the federal level or the state level.   43 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:47,280 That prayer continues to this day. I was told that  the logistics of managing the process of inviting   44 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:52,640 people to pray would be difficult. Just because  it is hard does not mean that it is not worth   45 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:57,680 doing. Nothing worth doing is easy. [snorts]  Lastly, I was told that giving prayers would   46 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:03,120 be seen as a divisive experience and a cause  for people to offend others. I have far more   47 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:08,480 faith in our community than that. Like the early  delegates to the first continental congress, such   48 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:13,840 a practice of seeking divine help would be seen  as a unifying experience by the community. They   49 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:18,560 would recognize what we are trying to achieve and  they would thank us for it. It would be an amazing   50 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:23,840 opportunity for us as board members to lead by  example of showing unity despite differences   51 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:29,360 in faith traditions in respecting each other's  beliefs. Hearing others pray differently than I   52 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:34,480 do or would listening's repair when you yourself  don't pray is only offensive to you if you choose   53 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:41,440 to let it be offensive. That is the choice we all  make. Are we one nation under God, indivisible, as   54 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:47,120 we pledge before every one of our meetings, or are  we not? Are we one county under God, indivisible,   55 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:52,080 or are we not? Should this come before the board  again in the future, as I expect it will, I hope   56 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:57,280 you will recognize that while it may be hard, it  would be a net positive for our community as we   57 00:05:57,280 --> 00:06:05,840 use every avenue at our disposal to make Kenosha  County the best possible place to live. Thank you. 58 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:13,920 Are there any other citizens comments? 59 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:21,680 Justine Ham of Jones, 8456 Eastridge Drive,  Pleasant Prairie. Our freedom to vote and to have   60 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:27,200 our votes counted is under threat. The federal  government is moving to interfere in how elections   61 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:34,160 are run even though states have administered their  own elections since the founding. An April 27th,   62 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:40,320 Reuters investigation, how Trump is moving  to control US elections, one state at a time,   63 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:45,440 documented federal authorities, the Department  of Justice, and the Department of Homeland   64 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:52,880 Security fanning out across the country, seeking  confidential records, pressing for access to   65 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:59,600 voting equipment, and re-examining voter fraud  cases that courts in bipartisan reviews have   66 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:06,800 already rejected. examples of federal interference  already this year. Baseless claims of stolen   67 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:13,840 elections and investigations without charges into  organizations that run voter registration drives,   68 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:20,160 especially in black and immigrant communities,  justice department officials seeking access to   69 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:27,280 Dominion voting machines in Missouri. Demands for  voter roles and lists of voters flagged as likely   70 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:36,160 non-citizens put on review by county clerks. The  flag names were all allegible eligible citizens.   71 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:42,320 A March 31st executive order directing the  postal service to manage access to mail and   72 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:50,320 ballots and directing DHS to build a list of who  may receive them, excluding others. Demands for   73 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:57,200 2020 voting records in jurisdictions across the  country. In Wisconsin, the Wisconsin Election   74 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:03,520 Commission oversees the elections statewide,  but local elections are overseen by county and   75 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:08,960 municipal clerks. County Clerk [clears throat]  Reggie Wigglea is ultimately responsible for   76 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:14,880 ensuring the voter registration records are  properly kept, polling places are efficient,   77 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:21,840 ballots are counted correctly and promptly, and  results are properly certified in Kenosha County.   78 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:27,040 We are a part of the national faith in  us initiative and we would like Miss   79 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:32,640 Wvagora to know that we support her.  But as the people who elected her,   80 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:38,400 we will hold her accountable for protecting  the right of our legal voters to vote without   81 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:46,640 interference or intimidation and to ens to ensure  that all votes are counted. We expect Miss Wiggora   82 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:52,880 to pledge that she and the polling officers  of Kenosha County who answer to her will one   83 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:59,680 abide by the US Constitution and state election  laws, two refuse to comply with any unlawful   84 00:08:59,680 --> 00:09:07,040 executive orders or data requests that seek to  restrict voting, and three faithfully play their   85 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:13,520 role to certify and seat the rightfully elected  winners this November, regardless of the party.   86 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:22,320 The right to vote is fundamental to all our other  rights. Our ability to make change at every level   87 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:28,000 depends on the people getting to choose who  represents us. This call to action will be   88 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:37,040 shared widely with the media outlets in Kenosha  County and beyond. Thank you for your time. 89 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:42,480 Any more citizens comments? Are  there any more citizens comments?   90 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:51,680 Say no more citizens comments.  Citizens comments are now closed. 91 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:59,200 Okay. Um the only announcement I have  um would be just uh for those of you   92 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:05,840 going to the 2026 annual conference uh some  information should be on your desks I believe.   93 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,360 And uh if you have any questions,  concerns or anything like that,   94 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:16,160 I think Reggie is a good resource or contact  the conference center itself. Um I believe   95 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:27,920 that's it for me on that. Supervisor reports.  Any supervisors wishing to give a report? 96 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:34,240 Supervisor Tarson. I just want to let  everybody know. Um thank you, Chairman.   97 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:41,760 Uh at the Kenosha Lakeshore Veterinary  Clinic, there's a mural being painted and   98 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:48,720 the community is invited to paint that mural  uh this Saturday coming up um all day. So,   99 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:54,160 please uh it be nice to support that,  pass the word on, let everybody know.   100 00:10:54,160 --> 00:11:02,960 Thank you. When is that? Saturday. This  Saturday coming Saturday. Okay. Thank you, 101 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:09,040 Supervisor Gray. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um,  as the liaison for the Primal Nature Center,   102 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:14,400 I just want to um remind everybody that  the fall funfest is on uh September 26th,   103 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:21,520 11 to 3. And tomorrow afternoon,  I believe it's 5:30, 6:00.   104 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,360 6:00 there was a ceremonial signing of  the new agreement between the county   105 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:32,560 and the priming nature center that extends  that relationship for another five years. 106 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:39,920 Okay. Thank you, Supervisor Gray. Supervisor  Gashki. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, as chair of   107 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:45,520 the Kenosha Joint Services Board, I just wanted to  let the county board know that this coming Tuesday   108 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:50,640 uh will be our monthly meeting. It's not our  typical uh week that we meet. and we'll also   109 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:55,600 be discussing doing some initial uh discussions  about our upcoming budget. So, just wanted to make   110 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,520 you aware of that if that's something that you're  interested in that we will be meeting this coming   111 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:08,560 Tuesday. Thank you. Thank you, Supervisor Gashki.  Are there any more supervisors reports? Okay, see   112 00:12:08,560 --> 00:12:18,320 no more supervisor reports on we move. I'd like to  announce that supervisor Carol is in attendance. 113 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,000 Old business. Ordinance second  reading to required. Ordinance   114 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:29,600 11 from the legislative committee. An  ordinance to amend MCKC 2.133C related   115 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:36,640 to standing committee assignments.  This passed unanimously at committee. 116 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:41,600 Okay. Supervisor Morrisy. I moved by Supervisor   117 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:47,200 Morsy. Second by Supervisor  Decker. Supervisor Morsy. 118 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:54,960 Sorry. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Thank you.  Go ahead. This ordinance uh clarifies that the   119 00:12:54,960 --> 00:13:00,400 executive committee is not to be considered  one of the three standing committees that   120 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,560 uh supervisors can be appointed to  and as stated it passed unanimously   121 00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:10,000 at the legislative committee  and I'd ask for your support. 122 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:17,040 Thank you, Supervisor Morsy.  Supervisor Nudo. Thank you.   123 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:29,920 Uh I'm a little bit confused why  this ordinance even came out to 124 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:38,880 to be to take a vote on that to remove it. So  could I ask the reason why this come out as   125 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:44,800 uh an ordinance to correct or to do something with   126 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:55,120 the executive committee if  somebody can answer me that. 127 00:13:55,120 --> 00:14:03,440 Um I'm going to have corp counsel  first to comment on that please. Jenn. 128 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:11,760 Yeah. Well, as of right now, uh, Mr.  Chairman, Mr. Chairman, as of right now,   129 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:21,200 I would just like to know maybe from whoever,  uh, the sponsor of this ordinance why that   130 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:31,120 was done. And then we can ask uh maybe  we can ask the...the county 131 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:41,440 Oh yeah. Okay. Uh since this resolution or  ordinance was put forth by myself, I'm handing   132 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:49,520 the gavl over to Vice Chair Franco uh because  I will be commenting on this um as the I guess   133 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:57,680 um presenter. Um but to answer supervisor  Nudo's questions in the past there have been   134 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:05,040 um um oversightes where there have been more  supervisors. Uh let me hold on let me take   135 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:13,600 that back. We have carved out for the executive  committee the um chairman of finance who's not   136 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:20,240 supposed to sit on any other chairs to be able  to sit on the executive committee. We don't have   137 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:27,360 that carve out for any other chairman for any  other committee. This simply is to put forth   138 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:32,400 the fact that it this is a this isn't even a  working committee. It's not even a committee I   139 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:38,720 would consider a standing committee. Uh I think  there's less than two or three meetings a year   140 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:46,000 on average. Haven't even had one yet myself. But  the three committee rule for standing committees   141 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,640 uh that would make a chairman who's on three  committees not eligible currently for the   142 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:57,440 executive committee. And the executive committee  as I said it's really a leadership. It is not a   143 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:04,480 working committee. Executive committee isn't  just um compos composed I won't say just of   144 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:10,160 just supervisors. that's composed of the chairman  and therefore it should be considered an extension   145 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:16,240 of their leadership responsibility rather than a  fourth committee assignment. Um it's kind about   146 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,480 equal treatment too because you don't want to  make an exception for finance administration and   147 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:25,680 ignore all the other standing committees. I think  that's important as well. Uh and it strengthens   148 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:30,480 the executive committee. Uh if we're asking the  supervisor to lead committees, we should want the   149 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:35,280 perspective when the chairs collectively discuss  countywide issues. Like I said, I've not had an   150 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,760 executive committee yet. I haven't called one yet.  Don't know if I'm even going to have one, at least   151 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:47,440 this year. I have no idea yet. But should it come  to be that executive committee does get put forth,   152 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:57,840 the uh chairman, which currently is uh supervisor  Decker, it would be a fourth committee, but she   153 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:06,960 is chairman of U. judiciary and law and therefore  should be allowed to sit on an executive committee   154 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:13,920 which is not a real standing committee but not a  work committee for sure. Uh I don't know if corp   155 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:20,800 council has anything more to add to that and I'll  I'm uh Mr. Chairman I'm satisfied with your answer   156 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:28,320 for now but I'll have a a question for corporation  council maybe a little bit later. Uh the reason I   157 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:33,680 don't know if you want to add something else or if  I can go on since I have the floor. No, go ahead.   158 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:42,480 Okay. Well, that's the reason why I am so confused  because when I was chairman, I had the same   159 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:50,160 problem. We had we had to work on this to make  sure uh in fact that some of the people on this   160 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:55,440 board that were there when I was chairman that at  one point I made some changes with the chairman   161 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:04,880 of some committees and I had to rework that and  I talked to the attorney. Actually my vice chair   162 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:10,960 helped me out in setting up the committees at that  time and everything and this year was a standing   163 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:17,680 committee. Now when I saw this the first time  that I saw this when uh you prepared the committee   164 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:27,520 schedule I asked why there's one supervisor for  committees. My answer sorry my answer the answer   165 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:36,480 I got it was well the executive committee is  not a standing committee. I said wait a minute   166 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:41,680 what do you mean it's not a standing committee? We  talked about it before whatever it is a standing   167 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:47,520 committee. We got the rules and regulation where  it shows what the standing committees are. And I   168 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:53,360 say so that's what it is. I said so why didn't we  do that? And the other answer was well that's what   169 00:18:53,360 --> 00:19:00,560 the chairman wanted to do it. So that's why I am  uh I don't know who you're talking about. I talked   170 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:07,200 to the attorney I talked to corporation. I'll  tell you this. I talked to S uh uh Joel Cardone,   171 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:15,360 our our corp counsel. We both missed this when I  was planning. We both missed it. Okay. And this   172 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:21,280 isn't the only reason to do it. But if we carve  out one, okay, I understand. But let me finish   173 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,760 with and then you can make your comments. You  know, I'll let you make comments before when I   174 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:31,920 had the floor. Oh, please. Uh, now going back just  on what you say, which I was going to bring it up   175 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:40,560 later on. Now, at the committee level, that's what  uh I believe you say that or Joe say that both of   176 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:47,040 you guys missed that. Okay. I don't believe it's  true. I think it's a flatout lie. And the reason   177 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:55,440 I'm saying that is because if you missed it and  Joe missed it when I called when I called then   178 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:02,640 you guys should have revised that and correct it.  while waiting for 4 months. And the only reason   179 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:09,440 that you guys tried to correct that after that is  because I brought in the resolution, ordinance,   180 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:17,200 whatever about changing the committees to seven  people and that's when you guys did it. Now also   181 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:24,080 at the committee level. Okay. Everything just  like you tried to say before about the chairman   182 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:31,360 or whatever uh the board chairman uh sorry the  committee chairman there are three there are   183 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:38,000 three committees. This a standing committee. So  that should count as a standing committee. And the   184 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:45,680 thing by saying oh well the chairman u committee  chairman should be on the executive committee.   185 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:53,600 That's what they try to go around to make believe  that the only reason you're doing is otherwise the   186 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:59,840 uh committee chairman cannot be on u on the  legis uh on the executive committee. Well,   187 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:06,240 that's not true. They can be on everything on  the executive committee. In fact, in fact, on   188 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:12,960 the rules, it says that's the only committee that  the chairman doesn't have a choice how to set it   189 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:19,680 up because that includes the board chairman, the  board vice chair, and the uh chairman of the other   190 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:27,280 committees. And in the event the board vice chair  is a chairman of a committee, then uh the chairman   191 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:34,640 of the board can appoint another supervisor to  take his place. uh and uh it will be you know   192 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:42,400 on um the executive executive committee and uh  the board chairman can appoint somebody else. So   193 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:48,720 that was not I think all the discussion that was  done in committee to say we're doing this because   194 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:55,200 the board we need we want the board chairman to be  or the committee chairman to be there or whatever   195 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:03,280 that was just to distract the people to let them  believe that this thing was done to keep that   196 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:10,080 that's as far as I'm concerned that's a complete  why. It's not even an excuse. It's a complete why.   197 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:16,480 will let the court counsel speak here. Um she was  going to say something and address this issue. No,   198 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,640 I can ask when I wanted to uh when I want  her to speak. Let me finish what I'm saying.   199 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:25,120 I'm going back and forth quite a bit here. Let  Let her I'm not going back and forth. I'm just   200 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:30,400 making my statement now. I'm not done with my  statement. What else do you need to say? Well,   201 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:37,600 if you listen, you will hear it. Okay. All  right. Finish it up, please. Thank you. So,   202 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:50,480 give me a second. Now I got to [clears throat]  I got to tell what I was going to say. Um 203 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:57,600 okay. Uh let's have you. Okay. I I want to  still have uh after what I hear from I will   204 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,680 address the situation. Go ahead. You have the  floor. All right. Um thank you. And as you know,   205 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:06,080 you guys will have to bear with me because I'm not  in this chair very often. But um there's been some   206 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:11,200 statements made about any type of dishonesty or  falsehood, and I can say with certainty that on   207 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:16,240 behalf of the corporation council's office and  the chair that that is not the case. Um I've   208 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,480 spoken at length with attorney Joe Cardamone  about this situation and tried to get up to   209 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:27,760 speed on it. And what my understanding is is that  historically the executive committee has not been   210 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:32,960 treated as a standing committee by the various  chairs. If you look back at it, some chairs like   211 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,520 supervisor Noodle when you were the chair you did  use it quite frequently but historically there was   212 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:43,440 very little usage of the executive committee.  I think in 2016 2015 it was used four times.   213 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:51,520 in 2016 zero times. In 2017, once 2018, zero. Um,  I can go through all the years, but there's very,   214 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:56,320 very little usage with the executive committee.  So, what attorney Cardamone has explained to me   215 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,800 is when we did the rules revision, it really  should have been modified at that time. We   216 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,080 should have made it clear that it is not  a standing committee. It's how the chair   217 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,400 determines how he wants to use it and it should  have been addressed at that point when we did the   218 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:15,280 full total rules modification. Um to the there's  been no dishonesty or or falsehoods. I believe   219 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:22,320 that attorney Cardamone has been very clear in his  opinions that this amendment is in accordance with   220 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:33,040 our past practice and it's he's supportive of what  the chair is trying to do. Okay. Thank you. Well,   221 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:38,480 you I passed the gavl back to him. Oh, do I still  have left the floor then? Back to him. Are you   222 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:43,920 ready to finish up or you have Are you Yeah, go  ahead. I'm not trying to fill a buser or anything.   223 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:50,640 I'm just trying to make my point. I can appreciate  uh what corporation uh Jen what you said it and   224 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:58,080 uh but I want to make one thing clear. I never  say that anybody did it in a dishonest way. I   225 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:03,600 say that I don't believe that's the true. Maybe  I did not use the right word. I said to me what   226 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:09,360 the excuse that they said it was a lie because  it was not the reason because [snorts] if it was   227 00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:14,640 for something that they missed it when it was  brought up then they should have taken care of   228 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:21,200 that time. Okay. And what they said that also I  say that at the committee level the thing that   229 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:28,160 we're doing trying to make it believe that  the only reason should have this so all the   230 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:35,200 committee chairs can be on the committee which  it's a fact the committee is set up who's going   231 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:40,960 to be there or not. So that's the point I was uh  making. Well, if we don't believe we should not   232 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:47,360 have the a committee in there, well, before we  changed, we should have uh take a vote to take   233 00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:53,680 it out and not making a stand extending committee.  That is my point. If we're going to do that, well,   234 00:25:53,680 --> 00:26:01,200 I guess it's fine. But to let it go after 4 months  to bring it up, I don't think it's right. And the   235 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:07,840 only thing, but I did not say any dishonest way or  anything. I just say that I don't believe I think   236 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:16,800 it's it's a lie. I don't think it's a mistake.  It's a lie. And uh for not having it. Well,   237 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:26,480 I'll deal. I'll uh Okay. So, there's been a motion  by Supervisor Robinson. Call the question and   238 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:37,280 seconded by Supervisor Meadows. Is this a uh roll  call vote? I believe it is. It's a roll call vote. 239 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,960 All right. All those want to call the question and  get to the vote, I guess, is what you're looking   240 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:51,360 to. No more discussion. Correct. Okay. All those  in favor would vote. Oh, we got to wait till we   241 00:26:51,360 --> 00:27:00,160 get it up. Yeah. Two majority. Mhm. Right. But  to all those in favor of uh going of cancelling   242 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:05,760 discussion, going to the vote, yes. And all  those who want to continue discussion, no. 243 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:24,720 Call the question um to end  discussion. Yes. 18. No. Five. 244 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:31,120 Okay. So, the question will be called and uh do I  need to pass this over back to John since it's my   245 00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:39,200 resolution? I think so. Not if there's no more  debate. Okay. Okay. Okay. Um then all those in   246 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:49,200 favor of the ordinance uh do we need to read this?  Okay. Um 2/3. Roll call vote has been called.   247 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:55,040 All those in favor of the uh resolution would  vote yes and all those against would vote no.   248 00:27:55,040 --> 00:28:02,720 And it requires two and it requires a twothirds  vote to pass since it is a change of the rules. 249 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:16,480 Speak the resolution. Supervisor Gre wants  to give a resolution stated. Yeah. Supervisor   250 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:26,000 Gray. Okay. He ordinance 11, an ordinance to  amend MCKC chapter 2.133C related to standing   251 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:34,480 committee assignments. Do you want me to read  the change? Okay. The Kenosha County Board of   252 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:41,200 Supervisors does hereby ordain the Municipal  Code of Kenosha County Chapter 2.133C. The   253 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:49,360 County Board rules of procedure is hereby amended  as follows. Three committee assignments. C. No   254 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:55,520 supervisor shall serve on more than three standing  committees. For the purposes of this subsection,   255 00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:00,960 the executive committee shall not count  as one of the three standing committees. 256 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:21,840 The ordinance passes. 22 yes and one no. 257 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:28,080 New business. Resolution. One reading. Resolution  43 from the public works facilities committee. a   258 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:36,560 resolution for Kenosha County to adopt the 2026  2030 comprehensive outdoor recreation plan. This   259 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:43,200 passed unanimously at committee. Supervisor  Bellski was excused. Uh this was moved by   260 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:52,160 Supervisor Meadows, second by Supervisor P.  Supervisor Meadows. Uh move resolution 43. 261 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,960 Uh I'm sorry. Move by Supervisor Meadows,  second by Supervisor P. Supervisor Meadows.   262 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,280 Thank you. Thank you, chairman. Uh this was  a resolution to create a 5-year comprehensive   263 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,920 plan for our parks division. Uh this gives  us some strategic planning to of how we're   264 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:11,120 going to manage our parks over the next 5  years. Uh such a plan is is is necessary to   265 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:16,400 receive grant money from the state and other  other people. Uh so this passed unanimously   266 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,720 in committee and we ask for your support.  Uh if there are any questions, we do have   267 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:28,480 uh the parks director uh Riot Moore here to answer  any questions. Thank you. Okay. Are there any   268 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:33,920 questions or discussion on this ordinance? I'm  sorry. This resolution. Oh, it is an ordinance.   269 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:43,120 Yeah. It's a resolution. I'm looking at the  other one. Sorry. One month off. [laughter] 270 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:51,920 Uh, okay. Seeing no discussion. All those in  favor vote. I I opposed. Motion carries. Ordinance   271 00:30:51,920 --> 00:31:00,880 first reading to required ordinance 12 from  supervisor Nudo an ordinance to amend MCKC2.133C 272 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:07,040 related to standing committee assignments.  Communications 35 communication from the   273 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:12,240 human services committee. A resolution to modify  Kenosha County's Division of Health's budget to   274 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:19,440 purchase new equipment. Refer to human services  and the finance administration committee. 36.   275 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,640 A communication from supervisor Colonia and  supervisor Gearson. A resolution supporting   276 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:31,760 the funding of W Parkside and the Universities of  Wisconsin workforce and innovation initiatives.   277 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:38,640 Refer to legislative and human services committee.  The approval of the August 18th, 2026 minutes by   278 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:45,360 Supervisor Gearson. Supervisor Gearson. Thank  you, Mr. Chairman. I move approval of the August   279 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:54,480 18th minutes. Is there a second? Second by  supervisor Robinson. Any discussion? All those   280 00:31:54,480 --> 00:32:03,200 in favor vote. I I I opposed. Motion carries.  Second. Move to adjourn by Supervisor Decker,   281 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:10,720 seconded by Robinson. We'll go with We'll go with  Robinson. Keep it going. All those in favor vote.