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Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Planning Commission meeting for September

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3rd. I'm thirsty. If I don't seem like I'm quite with it, because Mr. Hickman always

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does a heck of a job and I just sit here and follow along. So I'm going to do the best

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I can. He's not going to be joining us today.

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So first we take attendance and we've got

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very strong here Sean Quinn I mean Sean Jones there we go

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yeah and Jonathan Quinn yeah Ray Craig go crowd

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I got one of these days I'll learn who's on the move

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for Al Paul Ruggie first

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we'll everybody read the minutes is there

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I have a motion to accept or are any corrections move to accept the

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Minutes as stated.

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Second.

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Move motion to the second, all in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Motion carried.

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Okay.

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First, first up.

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This will be the Warford Handys Point, a preliminary final site plan for a board storage area.

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Carla, would you like to give us a little preview?

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Good afternoon.

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Carla Gerber, Planning Director.

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I'm here to present the staff report for the Warford Handys Point.

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for their out-of-water boat storage area.

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It's the proposing to construct a 2.837 acre gravel storage area on their 39 acre parcel located at the end of Greenpoint Road near Wharton.

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The storage area will tie into an existing gravel area and there will be space for at least 124 boats.

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Currently out-of-water boat storage utilizes the parking lot from the arena and during the off-season vehicular pedestrian movement becomes dangerous and difficult.

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The new storage area will separate car parking from boat parking and the parcel is owned

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marine and surrounding areas in mix of residential and agricultural uses.

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The relevant issues, the applicable laws article 3 section 2, number 46, which permit out-of-water

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boat storage but not multi-level boat storage, so this is a permitted principle use.

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The application meets the setback requirements and includes of 25 feet from off of Green

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Point Road, 500 feet from Wharton Creek, and there will also be a 7-foot chain leak security

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fence with strands of barbed wire on the top for a total height of 8 feet.

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Site plan review standards are found in Article 4, Section 1.3 of the Unified Development

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ordinance which outlines the objectives that must be fulfilled at each stage of the process.

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Staff and tack comments. The proposal is consistent with strategy and goals of the comprehensive plan.

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Separating the out-of-water boat storage area from the vehicle parking area will improve safety.

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There are no known unreasonable demands on public services and infrastructure.

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structure. There are, as had been discussed at concept review, the dumpster has been located

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toward the center of the boat storage area. The sufficient parking is provided. The applicant

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is not proposing any new landscaping. There is an existing hedge of white pines and hardwoods

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long Greenpoint Road. There is an existing forest at Buffer along the Ward Creek and given

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the park that the park for this site is well-screened. Let's see. The nodal lights will be installed

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in the Boat Storage area. There are some existing lights on the pole barn building that's already

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on site. Those will remain, but there aren't any additional lights.

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They have meant the 10%

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that water quality improvement standard for the intense development areas.

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They have applied to MDE for a general permit for discharges of storm water associated with construction activity.

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And so staff recommends that preliminary and final approval may be granted.

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And then signing of any site plans would be conditioned on getting approval from MDE

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of that general discharge permit and submission of any required

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sureties for sediment control or storm water management.

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There have been no correspondence on the application.

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Thank you, Carl.

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From the applicant that would like to give us an overview.

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Those of you who please keep standing, raise your right hand.

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You swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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Okay, he states your name and address for the record please.

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Bucknickerson, 2, 3, 6, 8, 0, Reikens Branch Road, Chester Town, Maryland.

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Chris Meyer, 1, 1, 0, 3, 0, St. James, New Town Road, Ward, Maryland.

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Thank you.

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This board saw the concept plan well over a year ago, not much has changed since that concept

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plan other than the addition of the dumpster, like Carla mentioned, and the question was brought

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about the lighting, and it was decided that no lighting would be needed for this site,

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because basically it's fenced in closed off and there's really no reason anybody should

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be there after dark.

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So the big hold-up has been stormwater management of getting a analysis done of the existing

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pond.

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This site currently drains to a pond and the proposed grading will go to the pond and we

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needed to mathematically prove that that pond would store the runoff from that to meet the

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regulations.

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And that was a hold-up trying to get somebody to run a HUDDRACAD report for that.

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We had a couple different options that kept falling through, but we finally got it accomplished.

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to the fencing, is there any security like for at night, is there any security as in people?

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Yeah, you know, somebody should, you know, you have an onsite manager, the end employee that live on the site.

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Yeah, they live on a site, but the boat's up here, is there a way we do have cameras?

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Yes, it's just curious, maybe you don't want to tell anybody, but they can say it's deterrence

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is great too.

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Unfortunately, in today's world, as long as there's boats are pretty expensive.

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Yeah.

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I also have full-size copies of both the site plan and the stormwood or management plan.

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I know sometimes it's hard to read a reduction of a two-foot by three-foot sheet down to a eight-and-a-half by eleven

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So I have full-size copies of anybody would like to look at them or if anything any reason arises that we need to

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The study of those in detail

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other question I had this

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site plan here. Does this go up to where that restaurant was?

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It's a different Marina that's that's your at work Creek Marina

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this is the next marina up or towards the mouth of Wharton Creek at the

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end of Green Point Road. There was never been right around at the end of Green

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Point.

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I was looking at that off the space up there looks like a restaurant

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sometimes. Well it used to be a restaurant I thought. I never got served there.

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I've been here over 12 years I think ways back they used to be one. Okay.

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But the evaluation on the pond waste water being the whole is it? Is that for your MDE

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district permit? Yes. Okay. That's what it's all about. And actually, it's kind of a two-sake

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phase thing we have to get the storm water management plan proved through the county, but also

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because the site is over an acre of disturbance, you have to have the MDE NLI notification of intent.

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And that gives the state the option to do additional review or maybe more detailed.

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What I'm kind of expecting, the Marine already has a stormwater pollution prevention plan

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in play, an SWPPP, and like they don't have enough acronyms, but it's basically follows

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the same protocol as far as, you know, if there's a storm event, you know, you check your discharge

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points, you look for erosion, you look for any problems, you fix them, keep track of all

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that kind of stuff.

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So the two run in parallel, so if they do hit us up with wanting that, I can basically take the stormwater pollution prevention plan and mimic that, so that's under review has been submitted to the MDE just waiting for reply.

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What

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is it might one

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of the TV motion

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we grant major site plan preliminary and final approval for to work at handy point and

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Corporated

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We find they've met all

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Permanent to

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article four

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Section three of the County Unified Development Ordnance in

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the Department of Environment

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For their general permit to discharge stormwater and associated

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associated with construction, activity, and submission of the required

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suities for sediment control and storm water management.

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Any

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strong?

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Aye.

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Sean Jones?

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Aye.

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Mr. Quinn?

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Aye.

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Mr. Craig?

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Aye.

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Any info?

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Any info?

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Any info?

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Any info?

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Thank you so much.

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We are talking.

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Tony Agenda is for the Kent County Government, the Major Site Plan, Preliminary and

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the FOIL and Millington and the wastewater treatment plan.

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You first there.

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Carly Gerber again, so this is the site plan for the county's proposed wastewater treatment

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plan for the town of Millington and the surrounding growth area.

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The plan will be located on a newly created 6.6 acre lot that will initially be accessed

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via a private road.

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The plan will serve, as I noted, the regional wastewater treatment needs, the parcel is located entirely within the mixed use development critical area district and it is consistent with the county's comprehensive plan.

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The proposed wastewater treatment plan will be owned and operated by the county and therefore is a public utility that is permitted by right.

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The design standards, the applicable laws Article 4, Section 3.6, staff notes that the engineers

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on this plan are working to design the wastewater treatment plan are aware of standards related

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to landscaping and the performance standards for the certified engineers report.

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and they have indicated a willingness to comply with those standards, however,

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those items have not been submitted at this time.

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Site plan review is Article 4, Section 1.3, which again has a list of objectives to be met.

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Staff comments.

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The proposal is consistent with the comprehensive plan.

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It's consistent with the general intent and use design and environmental standards in the unified development ordinance.

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And the county continues to work through the approval process with MDE.

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Convenience and safety of vehicular pedestrian movements have been considered.

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There are no known unreasonable demands on public services and infrastructure.

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The proposed plan will place an existing plan that is currently located in the floodplain.

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And it will also be upgraded to current best technology, so therefore it will improve environmental conditions.

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Sentiment control and storm water management will be implemented according to approved plans.

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No tree removal is anticipated.

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The development meets the required setbacks.

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As noted, a landscape buffer will be provided to screen the facility from the surrounding

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property owners.

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We have not seen the details of that buffer yet.

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There are adequate provisions for off-street parking.

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including the plant, while it does need some screening has also been cited to take advantage

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of existing mature vegetation to protect the surrounding area.

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And staff recommends granting preliminary site plan approval, but you can certainly at

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your discretion consider granting both preliminary and final contingent upon the couple of items

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that are still outstanding and I have not received any correspondence on this.

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Other than landscaping, is that the anything that's outstanding?

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The Certified Engineers Report, which again I would expect this to be in compliance.

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Those are the noise, does particulate matter or odor report.

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We're meant that the county has.

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With the civil consultant, actually, KCI technology. The whole

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truth and nothing but the truth. Yes, I can say your name and address and record. My name is Jim Lover. I'm here representing KCA to KCI technologies. We're located in Newark, Delaware, at 600 White Clay Center Drive.

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I guess what I'd like to say today is that we're well aware of the comments from Carla's office. We also just received comments regarding our storm

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on water management design, as far as having not submitted the landscaping plan yet, to be quite honest, we hadn't done that on purpose, we didn't want to throw good money after bed without storm water management comments first, so we know we're going to have to change the grading a little bit to address those comments, we might need an extra pipe here or there, and we owe a pretty significant buffer for screening both for code requirement purposes, but as also as a condition of the land sale, we owe additional landscaping.

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We owe a substantial landscaping buffer around the perimeter of this property and we didn't want to

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Put a significant design together and then have to go backwards in our in our process one we found out

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We had to change some grading here at a swell there are those types of things

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So we were I apologize for not having submitted it

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But we were aware that we were you know needed to do that moving forward once we got those technical comments back about the stormwater management

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guess you know that's

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one thing but grant since the landscape and then it has to be

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pretty well reviewed by the developer around you.

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I think it might be wise to let him take a look at it

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before we get somebody fine on it.

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That's the only holdup I would say, you know.

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Is that a holdup?

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I'm just curious, you show one way in,

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is there two, is there another access?

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No, the one way in is going to be temporary

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and then the property is going to be developed around us

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and then once it's developed around us,

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I am under the impression that the road that we're building will remain.

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And then there will be a new road constructed that actually takes us out to the main road that we front on.

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So, but those things are beyond our control.

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Those are in the hands of the developer of developing the rest of the property around us.

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So, for temporarily, we're going to have-

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I guess I would have to ask you say it's beyond your control, but

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It's supposed to develop or decide she doesn't want you to have any access.

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Well, those agreements, what gives you the protection that you need to keep that ingress in egress area?

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Those agreements are all worked into the sale of the 6.6 acres that he sold to us.

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So he is committed to building that additional entry.

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I have a little concern with that.

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That's just a good point out that the property

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that the county owned also has frontential long route 291.

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But it does.

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In a worst-case scenario,

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that county could put in its own interest.

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Well, that's kind of where it was going.

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Maybe would it make sense to delineate it on a site plan

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where it could be?

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No, I think that county's agreements with the county

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has for how to access this sufficient.

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I'm just bringing it up because I just think that something should happen on that

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road to get in and out.

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There needs to be maybe some other designated area other than getting a bulldozer and just

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making a road when you have to.

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maybe down the road, if you want to do something else there, or add something to it, it just

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needs to.

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It's just my thought, so I think it's worth no

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more comments up here.

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Anybody from the public that are on the screen, is there anybody that would like to make

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a comment?

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Seeing none, I guess we'll entertain a motion here.

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That we grant preliminary site plan approval for the County Government for their Millington

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In wastewater treatment plan on map 31, parcel 6, lot 1,

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fine and they have substantially answered most of the questions in Article 4, section 3.6 of the Kent County Unified Development Ordnance.

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the

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motion do we have a second?

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Yes.

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Sean?

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Yes.

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And I'll say yes.

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I'll vote with the majority.

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So I'll set the go.

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Thank you, gentlemen.

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I've been head-started anyway.

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Should I add it to the minute situation we've recouped?

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Not a pre-tune Mr. So.

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We'll make sure that gets there.

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Senator agenda.

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Chester town community energy initiative for a preliminary site plan review of their utility scale

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All right Paul Keane and the new associate planner here for Kent County. So this is the first time I'm presenting for this committee. So this should be fun.

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So I'm presenting today the Chester Town Community Energy Initiative site. So it's at 10263 Wharton Road in Chester Town.

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It's in the third election district. It's owned for the Employment Center zoning.

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So it's a 72 acre parcel, it's about 16 of it is being used for this particular project.

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There's no demolition, grading or tree clearing or wetland disturbance as part of this project.

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All of the work is occurring inside of the employment center zoning.

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The rest of the parcel is known for agriculture.

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culture. The

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subject parcel is bisected by a separate parcel that opens to open water

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upon an intermittent stream. So this project also includes some assistance with making sure

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that stays delineated. The proposed limited disturbance is 16 acres, 35 foot wide perimeter landscaping

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buffer. It's planned to be around the facility. The project will egress from Wharton Road.

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Once in operation, traffic to and from the site is expected to be minimal.

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So the project

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meets the applicable laws in Article 5, Section 4 of the U.K. Development Ordnance for requirements

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for setbacks, insulation and maintenance standards along with landscaping and irrigation requirements.

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The proposed up-back for the area air abuse is required a hundred feet greater from any

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lot line of the projected site.

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The project uses six above-ground utility poles within the site.

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We requested those to be moved underground if possible.

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The applicant and Delmarva power both preferred above ground power to the site, so we've agreed

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with that.

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They've also provided a glare assessment, which shows there's no anticipated glare as a result

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to the project.

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They submitted a forest conservation worksheet even though there is no plan to disturbance

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of trees on the site. They've also submitted a landscape maintenance plan in lieu of using

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the traditional irrigation methods. They're using a combination of watering bags and watering

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trucks to facilitate the landscaping plan. They also have submitted a preliminary support

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of water management plan, and at this time we are just simply waiting on an SHA approval

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for the site.

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Staff recommends granting a preliminary site approval or a preliminary

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plan approval for this site.

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I'm going back to these polls.

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The coordinate says that there's to be no above-ground utilities,

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And I guess my problem is it doesn't say unless the developer and the power company decide they'd rather have a

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Above ground and underground, but you know they they never want to put them underground. We have it in there.

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We I don't know where it says that it's just because you decide you'd rather have them above ground. You can have them above ground.

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You know, and I said when you came in here for concept or they came in here for concept that we wanted some letter then from Del Marva saying that they wanted them above ground and not underground.

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I mean if you're building a house and the county says you got to have 50 foot entrance and you and the builder decide you don't want to have 50 feet, you want to have 20 feet, you can't do that.

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If Del Marva and Choptank are going to continually say they prefer them above ground, then they should come in here and ask for their zoning ordinance to be amended to say that.

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That's my opinion I would anyhow.

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They did provide the letter as you requested, so there is a letter.

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Well, I think they need to amend the ordinance because it says you won't do it.

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It doesn't say you have that ability to change it just because you want to have them above ground.

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They can come in and convince the planning commission and then the commissioners that, you know,

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would safer to have them above ground than fine.

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But my gosh, they sat there and, you know, in my opinion, they gutted air utility scales

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zoning ordinance to begin with and for some reason that was left in there and

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now they don't want to buy by that. It's

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hard to do that to you for the day up here.

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I knew what brought to the gun head. I'm aware.

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And there's the applicant.

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Where is it? Do we have a representative from the applicant here?

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Where is your right hand?

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You all swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing

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with the truth? And state your name and address for the record please.

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My name is Ted Hastings. I'm a senior associate with Beckham-Morgan Associates at a Salisbury, Maryland.

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That's at 312 West Main Street Salisbury, Maryland and with the Civil Engineers of the project.

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My name is Jack Rowland and the Director of Development with the applicant, Chester Town Community,

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Energy Initiative, the parent company's called ECAPower.

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And the office address is 203 Crescent Street, Suite 106, Waltham, Massachusetts.

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My name is Nicholas Hetland, I'm a civil engineer with the applicant Testerton Community Initiative ECAPOWER, the same address 203 Preston Street and one of the Massachusetts.

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Thank you. Obviously we're looking at a solar project. I've seen this before. Under the concept, we went through the technical advisory committee concept.

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been in front of this board for concept and went back in front of the

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technical advisory committee and we're here again. This is a 11.52 fence

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din area of the 72.78 acre parcel where utilizing an existing access off a

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warden road is going to be improved in order for us to be able to access a site

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but it's an existing access or using the same access point. It's a two megawatt

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Not single access tracker, which means it follows the sun.

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Stomach management and Registration Center control have been reviewed.

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There's still under review.

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We had a couple of minor comments over a dresser, and now we're about to re-submit to those

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agencies.

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We're to the point now where this project, the LaRais, the fence, the landscaping, the

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entrance is not going to change.

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What you see is what you're going to get.

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With that, and we also submitted this week a preliminary decommissioning plan and an estimate

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there will be updated obviously when we get to the third party stamp and signature for final,

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but that can be done prior to the signature of the final signatures of the plan.

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With that, we ask for this project to be considered for preliminary final, not just preliminary.

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nothing's going to change, it's going to be the same project throughout.

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The

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thing that'll be outstanding is once we get final approval from the Registration

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Senate Patrol's solar management, that's when we get the estimates for solar

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management for construction for, you know, all the Registration Senate

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Patrol measures, just to make sure they don't say that this plan's conceptually approved,

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this plan's approved contingent upon adding a filter lock here, so that way we

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we can add that in the last second and make sure that there's estimates or correct.

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I mentioned the landscaping is going to be maintained using water canons and water bags. They're spot, you know, so when they go up, they can actually hit the base of the trees with water canons. The water bags hang on the trees, which slowly watered the ground. So when you first hit them with water, you know, water has to see to run. The water bags eliminate calm. They'll slowly drip and maintain the ground to be moist and increase the survivability rate of the landscaping.

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And also the Maryland utility case, and that's 218 states that there has to be a 70%, excuse me, a 90% of our ability rate.

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So we have the main, they have to maintain and make sure that that landscape maintains a 90% of our ability rate through the life cycle of the project.

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We submitted it and let

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you have any questions, but I'm going to give it over to Jack so he can explain a little bit more about the amount of power which seems to be a concern and some other items.

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Yeah, again, my name is Jack Roland.

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There are just a couple items that I wanted to circle back on from our last meeting with you.

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all the first one was in regards to the overhead crossing versus the underground crossing.

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So, we've expressed the county's ordinance with our contacts at Delmarva Paranlite that

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it's requirement to be underground.

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So, we had some additional discussions about going overhead versus doing bidirectional boring

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and going underneath the road.

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And so there are a couple of concerns that have come up that sort of are why the rationalist

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to go overhead here.

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The first is that there are existing utilities.

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It's sewer and a three different fiber lines that are on the east side of Wharton Road,

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so on our side of Wharton Road.

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And it would be right where a riser would need to be installed for this underground crossing.

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And then second, there is the potential that there would be PFAS in this soil because of a recent,

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I think, 2017 EPA report that they're in the groundwater there.

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So just in the abundance of caution, we like to limit doing additional digging boring,

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et cetera, on the east side of the property.

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And so, yeah, we just believe with these complexities and concerns for an underground crossing here,

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that in this instance going above ground would make more sense.

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The second thing that we touched on in the last meeting here was I was asked about personal property estimates for the county as well as community benefits.

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So we hired a third party accounting firm called out Ryan LLC to provide us with some estimates for the personal property taxes for this project.

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And obviously, this number could change over the next couple of months as prices change

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and whatnot, but their estimate over the projects 35-year-life would accrue just under

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$1.3 million in personal property taxes for the county.

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The first year would be just around 70K, and it'd depreciate around 3.3% a year, and then

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obviously, real property taxes would go up as well.

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Additionally, I'd spoken about community benefits that we like to do for projects like

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With this, I don't know if it's already happened or if it's in a process, but one of our business

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partners is making a donation to the County County Ag Center, we're going to be making

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a donation to them as well, and then we're also going to be making a donation, and we're

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also happy to do training with the Chester Tam Volunteer Fire Company, that's something

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we do for all of our projects.

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So I have nothing else to add, I just wanted to bring up those two points from last time

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that were left someone open.

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The don't marvellous admitted the letter.

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Did we see this letter?

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What did we do?

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Yeah, it was an email exchange that was submitted.

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We did see that I apologize if it did not make it to you.

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Okay.

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What was the gist of the letter?

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What's the rationale for why they didn't want to go under?

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Is that the people?

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Is that them speaking or is that you speaking?

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So they brought up the underground utility crossings

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in the ditch in the front.

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We're just aware of the PFAS as an additional thing on top of it.

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But that was your comment.

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That was my separate comment that we just,

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because we had additional discussions about it,

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because we expressed how important it was to the county.

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But then that came up as just an additional thing

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during that discussion,

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which wasn't included on the email.

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So I'm just sharing that with the group.

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Question about the watering of the plant.

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So I've seen in the documents here,

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you know, you didn't want to do irrigation

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because there's no well there.

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and there's also no town water sewer on that side of the road.

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So, you know, that's a main thoroughfare going into Wharton and all that.

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And, you know, who's responsible to make sure all this gets water?

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I mean, my preference on all these sites would be irrigation.

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So, that's going to give your best survival.

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Yeah, so it's twofold.

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Obviously, you can answer the operation,

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that's very the knock-in for the life cycle of the project.

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But I mean according to the state law,

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you have to have the 90% of our ability rate.

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And also the landscape is bonded through the county.

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So for any reason, it's not being taken care of,

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maintain properly, you can pull that bond card out your back pocket

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and make them do it.

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It hasn't worked at all so far.

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There's a lack of accountability.

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And the other thing was the decommission.

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It was like with $385,000.

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How does that ramp up in the future?

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Because as this goes on, it costs more money to do everything.

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And so, you know, that doesn't sound like a lot of money

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to decommission as something happens.

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I know a lot of other jurisdictions

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that they have to be re-evaluated every five years.

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I'm not sure if that's in there, because that's in there.

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Because it's well.

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So it does, it has to be re-evaluated five years.

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So if the bond is up, then obviously,

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I have to get re-bonded for the higher amount.

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You have to go up toward this corridor,

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but on T-70, there's a solar site up there

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were to, you know, the grass around it is falling manicured and the trees are

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trimmed. You can't even tell it looks like it looks like a development model, you

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know, from the radar you can't see it's they keep it very nice and neat and I don't

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know how we in the county can get accountability to do something similar to this.

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So part of the solar array is the plant pollinator metamix underneath the

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So it maintains the site and meta condition, which reduces the runoff from the site.

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You're going from a farm field to a meta.

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It actually has a reduction through the TR55 calculations.

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And you also help out the pollinators.

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And we're also in a Monarch butterfly corridor then, which helps them out.

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There's a lot of benefits having that meta mix underneath the array.

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It gets met a few times a year.

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Obviously, they don't want it to grow up too high and block the panels where it's not being productive.

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but they also, we choose a seed mix that doesn't grow too awfully high, but it still has to be made a couple times a year, but that's about it for the inside of the array for the matter area.

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We're not going to bet the outside, you know.

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Yes, we would be maintaining the fire break area, immediately outside it, and then we're leasing that that whole area, so we'd be responsible for maintaining that area surrounding the array in the month area.

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So, what are our local maintenance company to do all that?

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I mean, you're in Maine, you're not sending a courier down here from Maine?

452
00:38:22,750 --> 00:38:25,530
No, so we work with a company called Kilvmiller Brothers.

453
00:38:25,530 --> 00:38:27,870
They handle the construction, operations, and management.

454
00:38:28,130 --> 00:38:31,370
So, yes, sometimes they will hire a local group to handle the maintenance.

455
00:38:31,590 --> 00:38:34,250
Other times, it'll be a career they've been working with for a while.

456
00:38:34,310 --> 00:38:36,850
That might be based on a sales break, but that's their decision.

457
00:38:37,690 --> 00:38:40,190
But no, we're not sending a courier down from Massachusetts to cut grass.

458
00:38:40,190 --> 00:38:41,010
I

459
00:38:43,730 --> 00:38:51,390
noticed in your maintenance plan, you'll use herbicides, you know, that piece of property

460
00:38:51,390 --> 00:38:59,150
right alongside of this has been sold to a dairy operator that has organic fields and

461
00:38:59,150 --> 00:39:06,370
I don't, did we have to provide some protection between that and the organic growth, I don't

462
00:39:06,370 --> 00:39:06,590
know.

463
00:39:06,590 --> 00:39:13,030
Yeah, I can tell you the meta mix that we used for underneath the array is animal friendly.

464
00:39:13,570 --> 00:39:18,150
A lot of these are companies that we deal with do what's called aggregate little takes.

465
00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:21,510
You put sheep underneath the array degrees, so it has to be safe for them.

466
00:39:22,050 --> 00:39:26,650
I don't think this particular project is proposing that at this point, but if we're any reason

467
00:39:26,650 --> 00:39:30,830
down the road, we have chosen to see the mix to be able to do that later on down the road

468
00:39:30,830 --> 00:39:32,990
if necessary, if they want to do it.

469
00:39:32,990 --> 00:39:36,150
sometimes just cheaper just a lot of a bunch of cheap police underneath the

470
00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:38,490
rail instead of bringing somebody in and cutting grass.

471
00:39:51,790 --> 00:39:52,990
Last reiterate that we

472
00:39:52,990 --> 00:39:56,350
would like preliminary final today if absolutely possible if you feel that's

473
00:39:56,350 --> 00:40:03,110
necessary or your acceptable. A couple months ago we made a decision that we wouldn't

474
00:40:03,110 --> 00:40:07,810
grant preliminary and final unless it was advertised for final. It was.

475
00:40:08,130 --> 00:40:08,450
It

476
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,640
was recommending this preliminary.

477
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,580
That was at the time the staff report was

478
00:40:21,580 --> 00:40:27,480
We didn't have a couple of the items that submitted over the last week.

479
00:40:27,780 --> 00:40:29,600
We didn't have a decommissioning plan at that point.

480
00:40:31,060 --> 00:40:34,580
There was a miscommunication about the self-destruction of the plan,

481
00:40:34,900 --> 00:40:37,260
which we had, they then reasoned it as well.

482
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,420
May I ask, so it was advertised as preliminary and final,

483
00:40:42,860 --> 00:40:45,140
but the agenda list is preliminary only.

484
00:40:47,700 --> 00:40:50,420
So if you aren't going to entertain that,

485
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,480
I would ask you make a motion to amend the agenda

486
00:40:53,780 --> 00:40:56,840
and then take a vote on that, if that's something that you're going to consider.

487
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,320
Let's take some comments.

488
00:41:07,570 --> 00:41:10,430
That question, Paolo from Korea, Bill Biber's?

489
00:41:10,430 --> 00:41:11,830
Yeah, just a road.

490
00:41:12,550 --> 00:41:14,730
So, might just, sir, please come up here, just, uh,

491
00:41:23,300 --> 00:41:24,020
Grigory Andrew.

492
00:41:24,420 --> 00:41:24,560
Yup.

493
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,100
Could you tell the truth, the whole truth, how about the truth?

494
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:27,840
Yes, sir.

495
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,380
And name and address to the record, please.

496
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:30,840
Okay.

497
00:41:30,980 --> 00:41:34,540
Paolo Fetsi, one idol while better, too.

498
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,620
Yeah, so I had the question that's where the neighbors in front across the road

499
00:41:43,620 --> 00:41:49,140
The shop tank shut us down to do a solar farm. So I suppose the question is you guys are connecting to them

500
00:41:49,140 --> 00:41:55,400
Marva. That's correct. Okay, and so you had no problems to connect to them Marva. Yeah, but the community solar

501
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,960
Program, it's with the IOUs like the investor on utilities

502
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,460
We've tried working with shop tank. We've not been able to do any community solar projects with them

503
00:42:02,460 --> 00:42:07,580
But they're not obligated to do community solar with the state the way down Marva power and light would be. Okay

504
00:42:07,580 --> 00:42:14,880
Okay. So, okay. That was my question since the job thing. It does not allow us to do a sort of formal in our land, so thank

505
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:18,440
you.

506
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:18,800
Thank you.

507
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:18,880
Thank you.

508
00:42:31,070 --> 00:42:34,990
My name is Cora Dixon. I live in Rock Hall, Maryland. Do you need my full address?

509
00:42:36,070 --> 00:42:37,890
That's the truth. The whole truth is nothing but the truth.

510
00:42:38,050 --> 00:42:41,310
I do. I stick to the three boys laying in Rock Hall, Maryland.

511
00:42:42,570 --> 00:42:47,010
I'm here as just as a citizen, but I do have a consulting firm called Solid Policy Associates.

512
00:42:47,010 --> 00:42:52,510
So, I have a question, maybe for Planck Mission or maybe for a company.

513
00:42:54,370 --> 00:42:57,170
You mentioned, a Gauss start with the easy one, you mentioned the community benefits.

514
00:42:57,510 --> 00:42:58,630
Is that a written agreement?

515
00:42:59,470 --> 00:43:00,390
Like is it written somewhere?

516
00:43:00,570 --> 00:43:01,710
Is it just a oral discussion?

517
00:43:02,190 --> 00:43:03,050
I just wrote a discussion.

518
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:13,090
And I wanted to ask the county, are you charging the business property tax on electricity, electric

519
00:43:13,090 --> 00:43:14,490
generating facilities?

520
00:43:14,490 --> 00:43:19,270
that's in a code, have you calculated that?

521
00:43:19,450 --> 00:43:25,050
Yes, so over the 35-year lifespan of the project,

522
00:43:25,290 --> 00:43:27,190
we expect the personal property taxes

523
00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:29,390
to be just under 1.3 million,

524
00:43:29,450 --> 00:43:31,290
the first year would be around 70K,

525
00:43:31,410 --> 00:43:34,590
because the personal property taxes do show zero percent,

526
00:43:34,750 --> 00:43:37,010
but under, I'm linking on the actual ordinance,

527
00:43:37,650 --> 00:43:39,550
because it's an energy-generating facility,

528
00:43:39,750 --> 00:43:42,550
we are charged to 2.55 percent personal property tax.

529
00:43:42,990 --> 00:43:44,930
Somebody said I thought that was a business property tax.

530
00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:46,150
It was really confusing.

531
00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:48,090
Yeah, that's correct.

532
00:43:48,590 --> 00:43:49,410
OK, all right.

533
00:43:49,510 --> 00:43:50,150
Thank you.

534
00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:50,270
Is

535
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:56,880
there anything else?

536
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:57,680
Anybody else?

537
00:43:59,980 --> 00:44:01,100
I come up here for a motion?

538
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,280
Question again, first.

539
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,440
If you were to tell them, though, Marva,

540
00:44:05,620 --> 00:44:10,340
that you wanted the ground, the lines on the ground,

541
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,160
would they say, no, we're not doing it?

542
00:44:14,780 --> 00:44:15,260
What does that mean?

543
00:44:15,780 --> 00:44:17,760
Well, no, they would look into doing it,

544
00:44:17,780 --> 00:44:20,320
and they'd probably maybe they'd find a way to do it.

545
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:27,500
but I was just, so like, it's not a hill that we're going to die on or I don't know if we're going to die on.

546
00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:29,880
They just expressed those concerns.

547
00:44:30,460 --> 00:44:35,840
If we pushed and they absolutely said no, we can't go, or you said absolutely no overhead.

548
00:44:36,740 --> 00:44:45,720
Yeah, I'm sure they could find a way to go underground, but just with the soils, the existing utilities that are there,

549
00:44:45,720 --> 00:44:51,140
they feel it's the highly preferred method to be overhead here so.

550
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:59,980
They bore these things, when it's a problem, I want them to bore because they can drop it down to 6-7 feet and go right underneath of everything that's out there.

551
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,940
It's, it's usually pretty simple, less disturbance, and I was just curious why they were so, so fast on not wanting it. Yeah, initially, yeah, there was fast, but we've had the discussion sense about it. But this why and why and 150 feet roughly do you need six poles? That's three. I think you might have to speak to this. I'm not by any means electrical engineer. Yeah, so they, they want to have their poles. So they're

552
00:45:29,940 --> 00:45:33,100
successful and they can manage them and they can construct them and there's.

553
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:41,260
And so they'll do like each one of those polls will hold a piece of equipment

554
00:45:41,260 --> 00:45:47,780
necessary for the transmission of the electricity. So that's their preferred method.

555
00:45:48,140 --> 00:45:54,060
It's essentially how we do almost all of our projects. You know, so we are we did

556
00:45:54,060 --> 00:45:58,680
bring the concern of the county to them. It's not a concern. It's it's the

557
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:04,120
coordinates. Yep, and we shared with them the coordinates too. And so there is a sewer

558
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:12,080
force main. It crosses board and road along the north parcel line and then it comes across

559
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:19,060
the street and then it comes down. So it would be kind of right where that far side of

560
00:46:19,940 --> 00:46:25,420
you know the directional board will come out to a force main. You know we haven't measured

561
00:46:25,420 --> 00:46:27,640
measured it, but it would probably be forced to be deep.

562
00:46:28,500 --> 00:46:31,000
You know, we don't know, but that would be probably right

563
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:31,960
in the area of that.

564
00:46:32,500 --> 00:46:35,280
Boring, and then there's the communications

565
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,140
and telecommunications lines that are there.

566
00:46:37,380 --> 00:46:38,620
There's the roadside swell.

567
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,260
We're proposing a new culvert there for the entrance.

568
00:46:45,340 --> 00:46:47,800
So those would be the reasons.

569
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,780
It's ultimately their decision.

570
00:46:50,340 --> 00:46:50,400
Yep.

571
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,080
So we not only have the six poles.

572
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:58,880
you got six poles with some sort of devices on them besides wires. So down below

573
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,660
there's like a disconnect switch just to and for like the utility other one for

574
00:47:02,660 --> 00:47:08,020
the fire department. So those are things that are down there as well but it seems

575
00:47:08,020 --> 00:47:13,460
like an awful lot of poles and 150 feet. Yeah that's that's that's their standard

576
00:47:13,460 --> 00:47:13,860
cell.

577
00:47:31,130 --> 00:47:34,110
They haven't disclosed if it would be higher or lower in this case.

578
00:47:34,990 --> 00:47:40,610
We'd be happy to do underground, if that was the preferred method here, and we've done

579
00:47:40,610 --> 00:47:41,890
underground on a lot of other projects.

580
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:50,380
Think you can understand why we do what the polls are an issue.

581
00:47:50,380 --> 00:47:53,920
I mean it's especially, you know, you're going to drive up

582
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:59,380
road and that's all open land and now you have a bunch of

583
00:47:59,380 --> 00:48:01,000
poles hanging up in the air.

584
00:48:01,180 --> 00:48:05,000
So the other side of the road, there is that industrial facility.

585
00:48:05,540 --> 00:48:07,320
So I will say that.

586
00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:09,460
Oh, that's one side of the road.

587
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,640
We're trying to keep it from maybe we're trying to keep it from

588
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:12,460
happening on to the other.

589
00:48:12,700 --> 00:48:15,660
And if we dig on the ground, the six poles would still be

590
00:48:15,660 --> 00:48:18,300
there. That wouldn't change if it was above the line,

591
00:48:18,300 --> 00:48:23,040
above the Wharton Road or below it we'd still have those poles to connect our

592
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,980
project to the grid on our east side of Wharton Road here

593
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,740
just for our three

594
00:48:31,740 --> 00:48:34,440
poles and then Del Marbus three poles for safety reasons and that also

595
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:41,280
connected to the grid. We get around that you know you read it it says it's all

596
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:47,020
underground there it says it's all on a above ground but those poles are all

597
00:48:47,020 --> 00:48:51,600
about because it's all pole mounted equipment disconnects there's no

598
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,520
ground-mounted equipment for a solar field?

599
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,260
Not in this case, no.

600
00:48:58,670 --> 00:49:01,290
Again, I'm not an electrical engineer, but yeah, not in this case.

601
00:49:06,850 --> 00:49:11,070
I'll tell you, I'm willing to give you a preliminary, but you're going to do something about the polls for final,

602
00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:12,270
in my opinion.

603
00:49:13,170 --> 00:49:17,190
We've done this enough. It's always an excuse that the polls have to be above,

604
00:49:17,190 --> 00:49:19,910
and I don't know why it was ever granted the first time.

605
00:49:20,330 --> 00:49:21,570
I mean, the ordinance is the ordinance.

606
00:49:24,050 --> 00:49:28,970
We can't live with the polls, change the ordinance, and now we're attempt to change it.

607
00:49:29,970 --> 00:49:38,650
But you're coming down that road and 150 feet, six utility polls up there, 25 feet or whatever.

608
00:49:41,500 --> 00:49:44,760
And we got them on the other side of the road, but we don't have them on that side of the road.

609
00:49:44,900 --> 00:49:47,720
And this is called a planning commission, it's not a zoning commission.

610
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,300
I'll entertain a motion.

611
00:50:04,260 --> 00:50:06,600
Make a motion and grant preliminary approval, if

612
00:50:11,140 --> 00:50:11,840
it gets a second.

613
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:17,740
I make a motion and grant preliminary site plan approval for a Chester Town Community

614
00:50:17,740 --> 00:50:20,000
Energy Initiative LLC,

615
00:50:22,260 --> 00:50:26,840
property located at 10263 Wharton Road, which

616
00:50:35,060 --> 00:50:36,080
has got picked up

617
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:43,540
to roam glasses for their 15.98 acre solar field answered

618
00:50:48,180 --> 00:50:49,500
most article

619
00:50:55,580 --> 00:50:58,440
4 section 3 all

620
00:51:01,900 --> 00:51:06,780
of article 5 section 4 the County Unified Development Ordnance,

621
00:51:11,540 --> 00:51:12,340
relation that

622
00:51:14,900 --> 00:51:16,000
explanation

623
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:24,420
sufficient to this board and planning and zoning department for the insulation of six above

624
00:51:24,420 --> 00:51:28,900
of ground utility poles on the east side of Wharton Road.

625
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:29,500
I

626
00:51:33,790 --> 00:51:34,170
have a second.

627
00:51:35,070 --> 00:51:36,250
Yeah, I'll second motion.

628
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:41,380
The problem.

629
00:51:41,540 --> 00:51:41,640
Yes.

630
00:51:44,270 --> 00:51:44,530
Yes.

631
00:51:53,750 --> 00:51:55,070
The majority are in

632
00:51:58,880 --> 00:51:59,340
the preliminary.

633
00:52:02,550 --> 00:52:03,210
Thank you for your time.

634
00:52:03,750 --> 00:52:04,190
Thank you.

635
00:52:27,110 --> 00:52:28,290
Next on the agenda.

636
00:52:29,190 --> 00:52:38,290
We have the, for the town of Galena, preliminary and final site plan for the personal wireless

637
00:52:38,290 --> 00:52:39,330
facility tower.

638
00:52:42,810 --> 00:52:45,050
Carla Gerber again, just to get it on the record.

639
00:52:45,190 --> 00:52:50,930
The town of Galena is requesting a preliminary final site plan review to construct a 180-foot

640
00:52:50,930 --> 00:52:56,150
monopole telecommunications tower on the same parcel where their wastewater treatment

641
00:52:56,150 --> 00:52:57,070
plant is located.

642
00:52:57,890 --> 00:53:02,810
The town was granted a special exception for the tower at the July Board of Appeals meeting.

643
00:53:04,250 --> 00:53:10,070
The applicable law is found in Article 4, Section 1.3, staff comments.

644
00:53:10,070 --> 00:53:15,190
The applicant's project promotes known goals that are consistent with the comprehensive plan.

645
00:53:15,970 --> 00:53:20,710
There are no known issues with the safety or convenience of vehicular ingress and

646
00:53:20,710 --> 00:53:26,450
egress, as in the tower will be located within a secure French area with the wastewater

647
00:53:26,450 --> 00:53:27,150
treatment plan.

648
00:53:27,830 --> 00:53:35,010
And we'll be unmanned with only one month per visits of one month, once per month.

649
00:53:35,010 --> 00:53:39,870
There are no known incompatibilities to the surrounding area, the project site, no

650
00:53:39,870 --> 00:53:41,110
vegetation will be removed.

651
00:53:41,910 --> 00:53:46,710
The proposed limited disturbance poses no known issues with normal operations at the

652
00:53:46,710 --> 00:53:51,150
area, and staff recommends granting a final approval.

653
00:53:51,650 --> 00:53:51,890
The

654
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:57,920
applicant sort

655
00:54:08,060 --> 00:54:09,800
of tell the truth, the whole truth, and not the truth.

656
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:10,580
I do.

657
00:54:10,860 --> 00:54:11,080
I do.

658
00:54:11,900 --> 00:54:12,060
I do.

659
00:54:12,060 --> 00:54:12,380
I do.

660
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,760
I do.

661
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:22,640
Administrator for the town of Galena, 101 South Main Street, Galena Maryland, 21635.

662
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,900
Mike Gibson, maintenance coordinator, town of Galena, 101 South Main Street, Galena

663
00:54:27,900 --> 00:54:28,200
Maryland.

664
00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:34,390
We are here today for requesting our final site approval.

665
00:54:35,170 --> 00:54:41,510
Since last time that we sat before you, I believe the only change to the final site plan

666
00:54:41,510 --> 00:54:48,210
was the retaining wall and showing of the fencing area that

667
00:54:48,210 --> 00:54:50,970
that will be going in as well, right?

668
00:54:51,470 --> 00:54:54,130
Yeah, and then the, excuse me.

669
00:54:54,470 --> 00:54:59,890
I thought what was brought up was the lot lines?

670
00:55:00,730 --> 00:55:01,930
Oh, yes, lot lines, too.

671
00:55:02,130 --> 00:55:06,950
We did get a vote from Erin Council

672
00:55:07,630 --> 00:55:11,190
after we, I don't remember what meeting it was,

673
00:55:11,330 --> 00:55:13,350
but it was after and in between then

674
00:55:13,350 --> 00:55:16,150
where they did agree that we will not

675
00:55:16,150 --> 00:55:26,190
be selling the parcel next to us and we are also still in the works of getting a lot

676
00:55:26,190 --> 00:55:31,770
line adjustment to make that parcel, one whole parcel instead of the separate chunks

677
00:55:31,770 --> 00:55:36,930
because they've been, it was the original parcel then we've added separate places in

678
00:55:36,930 --> 00:55:41,830
but we are going to be doing a lot line adjustment for that as well.

679
00:55:41,830 --> 00:55:42,570
up

680
00:55:47,140 --> 00:55:47,500
here.

681
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:03,160
This back in here with a sewer treatment plant is back in there. I

682
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:05,940
got a hundred,

683
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:14,780
two hundred foot tower, sitting back there. Is there any thought to a second, just like

684
00:56:14,780 --> 00:56:20,860
earlier tonight? Is there any thought to a second way in and out, you know, if one, if

685
00:56:20,860 --> 00:56:24,440
you should have problem with the tower, but also maybe something that happens at the treatment

686
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:32,040
and plan. You know, so that, you know, let's say you had maybe had Verizon on the tower

687
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:36,580
and they have to get a technician in there to work on it or whatever. And you've got

688
00:56:36,580 --> 00:56:41,920
a problem with the treatment plan. Is there another way, you know, have you thought of

689
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,340
another way in and out?

690
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:53,780
Currently no, however, that is something that we could possibly look into the issue with

691
00:56:53,780 --> 00:57:00,600
that being that the the entrance comes behind the parcel where pet

692
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:06,560
pup is located so and then the rest of it I believe is yeah I don't think

693
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:12,180
there's there would be any kind of possible way to go in there as to the

694
00:57:12,180 --> 00:57:18,980
drop off to I guess it would be a creek and then it buss up Scott Masons I don't

695
00:57:18,980 --> 00:57:28,600
I think it's protected area that other side of PEPUP where you could come in from 2-13.

696
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,700
I think it's wetlands area.

697
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:34,900
I'm just curious,

698
00:57:48,540 --> 00:57:51,620
everything else, and it's nice to have another way.

699
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:52,180
Right.

700
00:57:53,120 --> 00:58:00,020
Yes, currently we have AT&T on one of our water towers and Verizon on another water tower.

701
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:05,320
at those locations, they do have separate locks to the gates with their own keys so they

702
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:09,540
can get in. They do have to let us know when they're coming for safety reasons, obviously.

703
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:16,760
And I believe that's probably the same thing we would do that way. We know who's coming

704
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,040
in and out of wastewater and on top of that, there is cameras all around wastewater.

705
00:58:20,660 --> 00:58:23,160
I just wanted to make sure that there was a problem.

706
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,340
Yeah, and somebody's not called 24 hours.

707
00:58:26,340 --> 00:58:31,420
Is there a problem with the tower or like I say the waste waste with you know the treatment plan?

708
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:31,720
Yeah.

709
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:32,520
Right.

710
00:58:32,900 --> 00:58:38,900
Luckily our waste water treatment plan operator is on call 24-7 and Mike serves as a backup

711
00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:44,940
for his 24-hour on call if he's unavailable serves as a backup.

712
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:51,040
And then the third backup I guess would be me but I'd call somebody probably because I don't know how to fix anything there.

713
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:51,720
But uh,

714
00:58:54,720 --> 00:59:01,080
it's almost impossible to have in there, it sits back here in a bottom of the

715
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:08,160
marsh and you know, and it's been there forever, so yeah, but didn't have a tower, that's

716
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:09,140
all right.

717
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,500
That's my, you know, my own personal side.

718
00:59:14,540 --> 00:59:17,940
There was a way we would, um, I mean-

719
00:59:17,940 --> 00:59:20,140
Oh, it sits back there, I'd buy it,

720
00:59:29,060 --> 00:59:30,740
you know, if you have an agreement or something like

721
00:59:30,740 --> 00:59:30,920
that.

722
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,940
But you just need to, I'm just pointing at you, I think you just need to separate.

723
00:59:35,420 --> 00:59:37,800
Yeah, I think we can definitely think about that.

724
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:38,680
I want to just think about it somewhere.

725
00:59:38,780 --> 00:59:38,900
Yeah.

726
00:59:39,300 --> 00:59:39,620
Any

727
00:59:43,140 --> 00:59:43,520
questions?

728
00:59:51,370 --> 00:59:51,670
Audience?

729
00:59:52,810 --> 00:59:53,670
Anybody have a comment?

730
00:59:56,810 --> 00:59:56,990
Anyone?

731
00:59:57,730 --> 00:59:58,790
We entertain a motion.

732
01:00:01,650 --> 01:00:30,470
I'll make a motion, the grant preliminary and final, site plan approval. For the town of Galena, for a personal wireless facility tower, being a 180 foot mono pole on their property located at 13265 Augustin, Herman Highway. We find they meet all the relevant issues in Article 4, Section 1.3 of the unified.

733
01:00:30,470 --> 01:00:33,650
by the development ordinance of Kent County.

734
01:00:43,170 --> 01:00:43,610
Yes.

735
01:00:46,030 --> 01:00:46,470
Yes.

736
01:00:46,470 --> 01:00:46,770
Yes.

737
01:00:49,300 --> 01:00:50,240
Hope with the majority.

738
01:00:53,730 --> 01:00:54,570
Go to your channel.

739
01:00:54,830 --> 01:00:55,010
Yes.

740
01:00:55,390 --> 01:00:55,490
Thank you.

741
01:00:56,090 --> 01:00:56,390
Good.

742
01:01:10,650 --> 01:01:11,250
McPherson.

743
01:01:11,390 --> 01:01:12,610
A buffer variance.

744
01:01:15,660 --> 01:01:16,240
017.

745
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:17,820
Hillmont Drive in Rock Hall.

746
01:01:18,540 --> 01:01:20,500
And what's happening there, probably?

747
01:01:21,420 --> 01:01:24,060
The McPherson's are requesting a buffer variance

748
01:01:24,060 --> 01:01:28,400
to construct a replacement dwelling 26 feet from the water.

749
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,480
The property is in a modified buffer area, but the minimum buffer is still 50 feet.

750
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,920
So therefore, a variance of 24 feet is needed.

751
01:01:36,540 --> 01:01:42,060
They just over half acre properties located at 50, 17 hillmont drive in the 5th election district and

752
01:01:42,060 --> 01:01:43,640
its own critical area residential.

753
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:52,820
For the relevant issues, the modified buffer provisions are found in Article 6, Section 2.8 of the Unified Development Ordinance,

754
01:01:53,740 --> 01:02:05,380
which notes that in the case of single-family residential development or redevelopment a 50-foot set back from the water where edge of title wetlands is required.

755
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:20,280
So staff notes that the property has a unique shape and is roughly 200 feet deep by 100 feet wide with a bulkhead across most of the front and about half of the southern side which creates the effect of a point jutting out into the water.

756
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:26,520
The property currently has a house and several accessory buildings all located on the point

757
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:27,280
towards the water.

758
01:02:27,740 --> 01:02:32,400
However, the footprint of the proposed house can meet the 50-foot buffer setback and

759
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:36,820
the 30-foot rear yard setback, which would allow the land towards the water to be established

760
01:02:36,820 --> 01:02:38,420
as lawn or other vegetation.

761
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:47,740
The standards for the variance are found in Article 4, Section 5.6, which has a set of criteria

762
01:02:47,740 --> 01:02:53,160
that ought to be found for granting a critical area of variance.

763
01:02:54,900 --> 01:02:59,780
So staff and staff comments, the strict application of the ordinance would not create an un warranted

764
01:02:59,780 --> 01:03:00,200
hardship.

765
01:03:00,500 --> 01:03:03,680
The applicant can construct the proposed dwelling without needing a variance.

766
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,680
The granting of the variance would confer a special privilege without the variance.

767
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,060
The applicant would not be deprived of a use of land permitted to others.

768
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:17,240
The additional disturbance of the property due to moving the house back from the water would

769
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,820
would be a temporary impact to the environment.

770
01:03:20,660 --> 01:03:23,540
Authorization of the variants would not be a substantial

771
01:03:23,540 --> 01:03:26,680
detriment to adjacent property and the character of the area

772
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:27,760
would not be changed.

773
01:03:28,460 --> 01:03:31,300
The application was sent to the Critical Area Commission.

774
01:03:31,780 --> 01:03:35,240
We did receive that letter which was forwarded to you.

775
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:40,100
And essentially the critical area staff do not

776
01:03:40,100 --> 01:03:44,040
recommend approval of the variants finding

777
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,580
that it doesn't meet the unwanted hardship

778
01:03:46,580 --> 01:03:54,560
criteria. It does not deny a structure permitted to others. It would confer a special privilege

779
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:59,220
and that it would be inconsistent with the critical area program.

780
01:04:02,890 --> 01:04:03,810
There was no other

781
01:04:03,810 --> 01:04:04,350
correspondence.

782
01:04:37,590 --> 01:04:43,750
I'm John McPherson, the applicant address 517, I'm John McPherson, I'm the applicant,

783
01:04:43,870 --> 01:04:47,090
I'm the alma mater, 517, but I reside in Montgomery County.

784
01:04:48,090 --> 01:04:56,310
Marsha Osselton with Lane Engineering, Project Support, we are 354 Pennsylvania Avenue

785
01:04:56,310 --> 01:04:56,890
in centerville.

786
01:04:57,390 --> 01:05:00,430
I'm George Coralakis, CCH Builders, Queenstown Rail.

787
01:05:03,810 --> 01:05:08,890
So thank you for your time, I'm appreciative of the coast of work, I'm a retired coast

788
01:05:08,890 --> 01:05:12,430
car civil engineer myself and I've done plenty of work including on Verizon towers, actually

789
01:05:12,430 --> 01:05:16,830
recording our search and rescue systems, but we're asking your support for this variance

790
01:05:17,810 --> 01:05:22,950
for Carla outlined, the reason not to, but the 50 foot, I think there are a couple things

791
01:05:22,950 --> 01:05:23,890
I want to emphasize.

792
01:05:24,390 --> 01:05:27,170
If you talk about the unique shape of the property, the property actually has water on three

793
01:05:27,170 --> 01:05:27,550
sides.

794
01:05:27,550 --> 01:05:42,270
It creates a very challenging wet shape, so because there's a tidal inlet on the north side as well, which is not mentioned in the letter, it creates a very challenging wet shaped buffer area, whether it's 25 foot or 50 foot is used, the 50 foot to my knowledge is something that was updated last year.

795
01:05:42,670 --> 01:05:45,770
We began the planning process, we just didn't get our application in part of that.

796
01:05:46,810 --> 01:05:53,070
The additional 25 feet actually moves the house back about 60 some odd feet depending on where we finally sighted.

797
01:05:54,290 --> 01:05:57,570
Crawl is correct that there's a requirement for a unique hardship.

798
01:05:58,770 --> 01:06:03,250
It's a waterfront property, we still could move it farther back, but that's the reason we

799
01:06:03,250 --> 01:06:07,270
purchased this house was for the location where the current house was.

800
01:06:08,130 --> 01:06:12,770
We're simply trying to consolidate, there's like she mentioned, there's an existing structure

801
01:06:12,770 --> 01:06:16,610
which is pretty dilapidated, we couldn't build a mortgage on it, we're trying to take that

802
01:06:16,610 --> 01:06:21,030
structure and replace it and include the outbuildings, consolidate those structures with a single

803
01:06:21,030 --> 01:06:25,610
modern structure on piles, much less impermeable area, just in the existing square footage.

804
01:06:26,210 --> 01:06:32,010
And we're asking for the variance waiver to recognize that we don't want to disturb the back half the property,

805
01:06:32,130 --> 01:06:36,350
which has never been developed. We'd rather use the existing already disturbed area,

806
01:06:36,890 --> 01:06:40,770
consolidate structures into a single structure where the existing structures are.

807
01:06:41,250 --> 01:06:44,430
It's not strictly on top of the existing footprint, which is one of the requirements.

808
01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:47,530
It's plus or minus, but that's because we're consolidating multiple buildings.

809
01:06:48,310 --> 01:06:49,650
I'm happy to answer your questions.

810
01:06:49,650 --> 01:06:53,670
We're just a family looking to build here in Ken County and proud to be from Maryland.

811
01:07:01,300 --> 01:07:01,740
Question.

812
01:07:02,460 --> 01:07:02,900
The.

813
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:03,920
Question.

814
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:04,200
The.

815
01:07:08,940 --> 01:07:09,380
The.

816
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:10,660
The.

817
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:11,880
The.

818
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:19,360
building the bigger square of 40th house and this is why you need this I think it's smaller it

819
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:23,660
covers less square footage it's a two-story the current house it's like there's

820
01:07:23,660 --> 01:07:26,560
an out building a current structure or there's a pergola and then there's a

821
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:31,100
pump shed that's all getting consolidated it's less square footage less

822
01:07:34,300 --> 01:07:41,220
square 40th house one other than because there's a big closure to the water why would

823
01:07:41,220 --> 01:07:45,300
you need this you're going to say in front of building one the exact same

824
01:07:45,300 --> 01:07:51,960
Yeah, but what's existing then the has we got to push it back to the 50 and the property is is also in the flood zone

825
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,280
So the current house is not

826
01:07:55,940 --> 01:08:00,840
In compliance this one would be on stills and I may get you know

827
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:06,400
Compliant with the flood zone. So maybe that didn't get your question. There's um there's a current house

828
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:11,620
It's bigger than that current house, but if you include the secondary buildings that square footage. It's less than

829
01:08:15,300 --> 01:08:18,040
bringing us to this, bringing you here to that net?

830
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,240
Well, we want to take them all down and put one building up.

831
01:08:20,440 --> 01:08:23,980
But because that one new building is bigger than the exact square footage of the primary house,

832
01:08:24,260 --> 01:08:26,860
it doesn't need to be the requirements for replace and cut.

833
01:08:27,900 --> 01:08:31,880
But you can still fill it even if you don't get to this very, and you just...

834
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,480
We just got to put it up near the road.

835
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:38,200
We've just got to disturb a lot more land inside the critter than you would have to.

836
01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:40,000
You know, we've just completely destroyed the whole lot.

837
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:44,180
We're within the critter where we try to disturb the least amount of land it's possible.

838
01:08:44,180 --> 01:08:59,200
Because we start the demo of the existing structure and we'll just throw that whole area and that way the disturb area behind the two just to build it behind the 50 because there's nothing there but there's a case where you could build back on the same footprint.

839
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:01,620
Exactly, but then we have to redesign the whole house.

840
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,180
What's the set of outcome of the existing building?

841
01:09:06,780 --> 01:09:07,420
25 feet.

842
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,540
And then all the neighbors actually left the thing that 25 feet are even closer.

843
01:09:12,020 --> 01:09:18,000
Yeah, one look like it was 12 or so there one look like it was like 12 or 14 yeah, the other one's 18

844
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:23,820
You're talking about the house of Jason. Yeah, they're even closer. Yeah, we started this process when we purchased house in

845
01:09:23,820 --> 01:09:28,120
2024 and I believe the 50 foot requirement came into effect last year with with the code update

846
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:30,080
So we just

847
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,860
have lots of a house for you proposing to build oh goodness

848
01:09:37,980 --> 01:09:39,880
Okay, how tall?

849
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:57,580
Also what's there now with the driveway, I'm going by what we got on the plan here.

850
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:02,020
It looks like it's circular and you're going to take up some of that driveway,

851
01:10:02,220 --> 01:10:04,100
and then turn it back to green or whatever.

852
01:10:04,380 --> 01:10:05,600
Yeah, that was our plan.

853
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,480
The net reduction is like, I want to say it was like 30% less.

854
01:10:08,860 --> 01:10:10,120
Get rid of some of the hardscape.

855
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,960
Our previous cover was going to be less than what's actually existing.

856
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:15,100
You

857
01:10:17,180 --> 01:10:19,740
know, unfortunately, you come in here and you're preaching to the choir

858
01:10:20,220 --> 01:10:24,060
You know, we've all had these problems with rules, rules.

859
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:24,960
You

860
01:10:27,740 --> 01:10:28,840
push the house back.

861
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:36,380
What's that do to the neighbor on the opposite side of Hillmont dry in their house right over there?

862
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:37,640
Yeah, they are.

863
01:10:37,740 --> 01:10:38,300
John and Judy.

864
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:45,280
They're probably as close to the Hillmont as they're allowed to be, so it's probably 25 from the center line.

865
01:10:45,940 --> 01:10:46,600
Maybe 35.

866
01:11:03,930 --> 01:11:10,210
They've got to prove the unwarranted hardship, I mean, you know, they say they have one.

867
01:11:10,570 --> 01:11:16,270
The state says in the county, the zoning office says they don't, like no how they figured

868
01:11:16,270 --> 01:11:25,350
they've got an unwarranted hardship, I mean they've, if I had my glasses here I could read

869
01:11:25,350 --> 01:11:30,150
it, but unfortunately, I know you listed something in there because I've read it.

870
01:11:30,150 --> 01:11:31,890
If it turns your heart, I'll go get some glasses.

871
01:11:32,090 --> 01:11:32,950
No, that's all right.

872
01:11:34,370 --> 01:11:35,950
But I mean, would you like to?

873
01:11:38,030 --> 01:11:39,390
You got to convince us.

874
01:11:39,950 --> 01:11:44,370
So I mean, you can go right down through that gamut

875
01:11:44,370 --> 01:11:47,050
of what you need to prove and tell us why.

876
01:11:47,330 --> 01:11:48,810
That is a particular one.

877
01:11:48,810 --> 01:11:50,070
I mean, I'll tell you what I told you earlier.

878
01:11:51,350 --> 01:11:53,330
The unwarranted hardship is an interesting thing

879
01:11:53,330 --> 01:11:54,850
when you're talking about people who are able to afford

880
01:11:54,850 --> 01:11:56,010
and build on waterfront property.

881
01:11:56,130 --> 01:11:58,250
So I don't want to make any illusions that this

882
01:11:58,250 --> 01:11:59,170
is a first world problem.

883
01:11:59,170 --> 01:12:00,150
So start with that, right?

884
01:12:00,790 --> 01:12:04,250
But we did purchase the property for the view, which the current structure afford.

885
01:12:04,430 --> 01:12:05,850
That's what I visited, that's what I purchased.

886
01:12:06,090 --> 01:12:09,610
Knowing full well that that structure was fall and part couldn't pull the mortgage and would need to be replaced.

887
01:12:10,290 --> 01:12:12,050
At the time, 25 foot was a rule.

888
01:12:12,290 --> 01:12:16,330
It just took taking this this long because that's how long playing often takes to find a good builder.

889
01:12:16,530 --> 01:12:20,230
We worked with multiple local professionals settling on the folks to my right.

890
01:12:21,670 --> 01:12:28,730
The hardship is we purchased house for a view that was what the purchase price encountered that updated since I purchased the house.

891
01:12:28,730 --> 01:12:41,710
of having me move it back is going to incur redesign costs that are an additional hardship, which, you know, I'm not an investment property, this is not a builder, just a family house, so that's the hardship.

892
01:12:42,190 --> 01:12:50,790
I think there's an environmental aspect that they call it temporary, I'm sure, but I've seen, I would hate to redistribute a section a lot that's never been touched before.

893
01:12:50,910 --> 01:12:55,410
I'd hate to be closer to the road and tuck back up against the trees rather than the view that we purchase the house for.

894
01:12:55,830 --> 01:12:59,430
But I don't know, you tell me if you shed his word, it's called hardship.

895
01:13:00,010 --> 01:13:03,190
Is this going to be your permanent residence after you get to his building?

896
01:13:03,650 --> 01:13:07,190
I need a few more years to get some kids out of high school, but that's my goal.

897
01:13:08,030 --> 01:13:11,410
I did 20 years in the Coast Guard, I view the water is something I think I'm drawn to.

898
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:21,860
So from a footprint standpoint, what's the difference between the existing structure and the new structure?

899
01:13:23,420 --> 01:13:33,720
Yeah, so the setbacks no different than the existing structure, but the problem is that it doesn't fit in the same footprint, therefore it's not allowed, so then you're then you're going back to the 50 foot buffer.

900
01:13:34,020 --> 01:13:34,820
You can,

901
01:13:44,140 --> 01:13:47,860
is that correct? That change since the purchase of this property?

902
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:52,000
I don't have the award in front of me.

903
01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:55,520
Okay, I'm just trying to confirm that.

904
01:13:55,520 --> 01:14:06,020
I can confirm that the setbacks change when I do not know if he would have been able

905
01:14:06,020 --> 01:14:08,880
to build what he wants to build now under your regulations.

906
01:14:09,380 --> 01:14:09,540
Right.

907
01:14:10,300 --> 01:14:11,400
That I don't know.

908
01:14:13,810 --> 01:14:16,070
I feel like that's kind of an important piece of detail.

909
01:14:17,090 --> 01:14:23,870
In trying to prove a hardship, I mean, okay, all the property this changed.

910
01:14:28,300 --> 01:14:31,340
And again, my other question, what's the difference in the footprint?

911
01:14:31,660 --> 01:14:34,720
If it doesn't fit in the existing footprint, is that because it's...

912
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:38,640
We're just consolidating all the footprints into one structure that's actually smaller

913
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,500
than the impervious covered that's already proposed.

914
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:45,780
And everything is behind, we're even farther back than the impervious covered that's already

915
01:14:45,780 --> 01:14:47,240
existing that we're actually taking away.

916
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:52,080
So everything will be behind the 35, whereas now we even have structures that are close to

917
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,640
like, 20 foot from the water that we're going to be moving,

918
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:55,100
all

919
01:14:59,220 --> 01:14:59,960
of a sudden, that will work.

920
01:15:06,170 --> 01:15:30,990
So, if we do push everything back to the committee, we're still doing what we've done to the House, but we're going to be, you know, we're going to be started with the whole problem. So, I'm trying to push the flag all the way back to the committee. Of course, now we can solidify, do, our LOD right next to where we're demoing or rebuilding the structure. We're not disturbing that much in the House. And it's always within the critical area, that's always what you want to be able to do, at least in my understanding, it's possible.

921
01:15:30,990 --> 01:15:31,770
Excuse

922
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:47,500
me up on something again, if we were, don't they still have to get through the

923
01:15:47,500 --> 01:15:53,680
critical area that made a favorable recommendation, is that, or this board has, can say it's okay.

924
01:15:55,060 --> 01:15:57,620
Well, you're making a recommendation to the Board of Appeals.

925
01:15:58,080 --> 01:15:58,460
Correct.

926
01:15:58,920 --> 01:15:59,060
Okay.

927
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:06,400
Board of Appeals has to make its own set of findings based on the criteria that are outlined

928
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:14,340
in your staff report and, you know, if they can find that, you know, that there's the

929
01:16:14,340 --> 01:16:17,020
unmoroded hardship, that it's not a special privilege.

930
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:21,500
Whatever all those things are, then the Board of Appeals could grant the variance.

931
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:27,520
We've sent those decisions to the Criticlary Commission, the Criticlary Commission.

932
01:16:27,540 --> 01:16:28,740
Who's still can weigh in on it?

933
01:16:29,380 --> 01:16:33,540
What the Criticlary Commission could do would be to appeal the decision.

934
01:16:33,540 --> 01:16:41,900
if they don't feel that the Board of Appeals actually made the correct set of findings that are substantiated, then the

935
01:16:41,900 --> 01:16:44,500
Criticlary Commission can appeal that decision.

936
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:55,010
Okay, I was just trying to talk about the fact that probably 75% of the houses in that neighborhood are closer than

937
01:16:55,910 --> 01:17:01,290
the sounds would be, I mean, is that a hardship?

938
01:17:02,030 --> 01:17:14,770
I mean, if I'm sitting there and I've got my neighbors or 12 feet away and 20 feet away and I know they were rebuilt after Isabelle and apparently nothing mattered then I guess.

939
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:23,520
Do we have the number on what the difference of the footprint of the current structure versus the new structure is?

940
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,700
So she's got her, how do you listen to this?

941
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:27,780
Yes, we have a partnership.

942
01:17:28,780 --> 01:17:32,340
Do you want what is square footage

943
01:17:32,340 --> 01:17:33,580
of the various pieces?

944
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:35,600
No, just to main structure.

945
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,820
Because that's really what the law is applicable to it.

946
01:17:38,900 --> 01:17:42,380
So there is a kind of, there's a one and a half story

947
01:17:42,380 --> 01:17:47,240
Frank Bowling, and on the plan, she is 893 square feet.

948
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:52,220
And as it's noted, there are some sheds and pergolas.

949
01:17:55,340 --> 01:18:00,900
The lot coverage for the footprint for the one-and-a-half story, frame-dwelling, that's

950
01:18:00,900 --> 01:18:09,060
probably, that's existing, a lot to be removed, sorry, is a one-and-a-half story frame-dwelling

951
01:18:09,060 --> 01:18:15,000
that's 893 square feet, the proposed two-story dwelling is 1,543 square feet.

952
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:15,520
It's

953
01:18:21,440 --> 01:18:22,180
not a big house.

954
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,140
And we'll put it in one pile if you get out of the point.

955
01:18:27,980 --> 01:18:29,800
We're doing it with all the neighboring houses.

956
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:31,100
We don't bring all the houses up.

957
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:32,120
We just think it's the water.

958
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:34,500
We don't give us your own water.

959
01:18:35,420 --> 01:18:36,060
You know what happens.

960
01:18:41,380 --> 01:18:42,420
I already went to the point.

961
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:43,600
At least I'm not disturbed.

962
01:18:43,980 --> 01:18:44,840
I don't think we know what happens.

963
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:45,400
It's the water.

964
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:46,320
It's the whole property.

965
01:18:46,580 --> 01:18:47,240
I don't have to do that.

966
01:18:48,420 --> 01:18:50,100
The laborious service goes down.

967
01:18:52,140 --> 01:18:53,180
But that includes everything.

968
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:54,960
To your point, I think Sean, you made a good point with it.

969
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:59,460
It's the primary dwelling is close to 900, the new primary dwelling is about 1500.

970
01:19:01,220 --> 01:19:04,920
But it's the net, it's all the other impervious areas, the percolate, the outbuildings,

971
01:19:05,020 --> 01:19:06,420
and then driveways, which we are going to reduce.

972
01:19:07,020 --> 01:19:08,940
The shed's another 380 feet.

973
01:19:10,460 --> 01:19:12,100
There's a bunch of paper that has it.

974
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:17,200
And for the point of the fact that, you know, what's the hardship?

975
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:22,480
I mean, if currently he bought the property and this law changed afterwards, I mean, that was.

976
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:25,980
But we don't know the answer to that question.

977
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:26,560
I

978
01:19:32,130 --> 01:19:33,730
don't believe it can create a hardship though.

979
01:19:33,890 --> 01:19:34,270
That's correct.

980
01:19:35,130 --> 01:19:38,790
Would it help for me to give you the definition of a fee unwarranted hardship?

981
01:19:39,150 --> 01:19:39,550
Sure.

982
01:19:39,970 --> 01:19:40,870
It might not hurt.

983
01:19:41,730 --> 01:19:46,850
Within the query, I'm trying to think, you know, it seems relatively logical, but I'm trying to figure out

984
01:19:46,850 --> 01:19:50,650
it fits into the little applicable law and I'm struggling with that.

985
01:19:51,410 --> 01:19:57,530
Without the variance, an applicant would be denied reasonable and significant use of the entire parcel,

986
01:19:57,530 --> 01:20:03,270
or a lot for which the variance is requested, so I would suggest the word reasonable is probably

987
01:20:03,270 --> 01:20:07,650
more applicable than significant use because you can move the house, you still have significant

988
01:20:07,650 --> 01:20:12,590
use, but whether that location is reasonable is a finding for you to make.

989
01:20:27,750 --> 01:20:41,610
This is a weird and difficult situation, but sometimes I think about what you and I have to

990
01:20:41,610 --> 01:20:42,070
They're critical.

991
01:20:42,190 --> 01:20:42,330
Right.

992
01:20:42,710 --> 01:20:44,350
You know, we get from,

993
01:20:46,490 --> 01:20:54,450
if we go into the wrong area, at Jets, I'll just say right up, I'm

994
01:20:54,450 --> 01:20:55,750
fine with whatever decision you make.

995
01:20:55,950 --> 01:20:57,510
If we have to move it back, I totally get it.

996
01:20:57,570 --> 01:20:59,090
That's my point about the first world problems.

997
01:20:59,250 --> 01:21:00,850
Like, it's still a beautiful property.

998
01:21:01,210 --> 01:21:02,710
I'll build a house farther back.

999
01:21:02,710 --> 01:21:05,350
It's just, I think it gets tight up against that back road.

1000
01:21:05,450 --> 01:21:09,410
We don't get to use the view shed that, which is why I bought the house, but I totally understand

1001
01:21:09,410 --> 01:21:09,570
it.

1002
01:21:09,570 --> 01:21:14,910
I'm not, I'm just wanting to move forward with the project but I appreciate how

1003
01:21:14,910 --> 01:21:17,670
local government works and I think I take a shot and figure that ask.

1004
01:21:17,910 --> 01:21:22,230
I think the views what sells it because I mean it's been sold a couple times

1005
01:21:22,230 --> 01:21:25,410
and everybody's got wet feet living in there.

1006
01:21:26,030 --> 01:21:26,230
Yeah.

1007
01:21:28,500 --> 01:21:29,500
You saying I got suckered?

1008
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:34,640
No, but I would think the water stayed on the wall which would have been give away.

1009
01:21:52,500 --> 01:21:57,760
We deal with a storm drainage yet, is that down-rooted?

1010
01:21:58,560 --> 01:21:59,240
Storm drainage?

1011
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,640
No, I guess that's part of the building permit.

1012
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:04,080
Yeah, we have the storm water.

1013
01:22:04,180 --> 01:22:05,180
We do have the storm water.

1014
01:22:06,020 --> 01:22:06,980
And plan.

1015
01:22:08,020 --> 01:22:12,760
I lit a 501-6 and I had the empty lot adjacent to him.

1016
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:22,660
Yeah, and the previous one is the one Rick Sheldon built the dock and the whole kid and

1017
01:22:22,660 --> 01:22:30,560
he did the landscaping, and when he did that, he came up with top soil and to deal with that

1018
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:42,520
to keep all from pushing it onto my property or what it was on my property, because we're the

1019
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:45,140
between the two properties, half on my, and half on his.

1020
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:47,200
And there's also a storm drain,

1021
01:22:47,380 --> 01:22:48,660
and they're the drains from the ditch

1022
01:22:48,660 --> 01:22:51,880
across the street, part of my driveway, down to the creek.

1023
01:22:52,420 --> 01:22:54,960
So as long as that swell stays there,

1024
01:22:55,480 --> 01:22:59,080
it's maintained, you know, I'm fine with it,

1025
01:22:59,140 --> 01:23:01,700
because, excuse me, that's just a

1026
01:23:06,020 --> 01:23:07,220
one-six full-mile drive

1027
01:23:07,220 --> 01:23:07,940
from Paul Maryland.

1028
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:18,820
Those anglic, like, if the building is moved back,

1029
01:23:18,820 --> 01:23:20,880
is that gonna affect that swell of the drainage

1030
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,000
or anything to the other property?

1031
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:26,500
We haven't done stormwater for if we have to move it back.

1032
01:23:26,780 --> 01:23:32,140
We have a complete stormwater report and plan if we build it where it's proposed.

1033
01:23:33,260 --> 01:23:33,700
Okay.

1034
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:34,200
That's all.

1035
01:23:48,860 --> 01:23:50,280
These are the tough ones all the time.

1036
01:24:00,060 --> 01:24:00,780
Where the house back?

1037
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:13,560
Again, we have to make a recommendation to the board of appeals to improve the variance.

1038
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,300
So, it's

1039
01:24:19,310 --> 01:24:21,830
not how far back or new we move the house back, so.

1040
01:24:21,830 --> 01:24:29,240
Yeah, we don't really need to do that, but it would be nice to see an alternative, possibly.

1041
01:24:30,580 --> 01:24:32,500
We're going to be able to turn to 50 foot.

1042
01:24:32,660 --> 01:24:33,000
It is.

1043
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:39,780
That's what the critical area commission did include a proposed footprint, setback footprint for the 50 feet.

1044
01:24:40,340 --> 01:24:41,460
That is in the pack.

1045
01:24:41,580 --> 01:24:41,760
Right.

1046
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,560
It's the 50 foot.

1047
01:24:44,660 --> 01:24:44,880
Correct.

1048
01:24:45,140 --> 01:24:45,280
Correct.

1049
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,780
I thought that was the question was whether I can see.

1050
01:24:48,860 --> 01:24:49,900
You're talking about something in the middle.

1051
01:24:55,320 --> 01:25:02,100
here this is uh is this what you're looking for? I'm just showing it to you. I got a little

1052
01:25:02,700 --> 01:25:06,200
floor plan, a little cut out of my house that I was tinkering with just you over. I'll

1053
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,480
sit up at the library messing with it so I'm with you. I don't have to want to play with this but that's

1054
01:25:09,480 --> 01:25:14,660
what it is. You guys, you could go to the house that fans would. Yeah. That's his problem.

1055
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:16,040
Yeah. The

1056
01:25:23,340 --> 01:25:24,500
gentlemen can

1057
01:25:29,170 --> 01:25:36,140
do it for the people. Right now if you don't do anything you got all the

1058
01:25:36,140 --> 01:25:41,460
in Purveys area and you got no storm water management right now other than the

1059
01:25:41,460 --> 01:25:48,060
swale that to previous owners agreed to put in you if they build a house where

1060
01:25:48,060 --> 01:25:52,740
they want to build it they'll have to do storm water management and going to

1061
01:25:52,740 --> 01:25:54,660
reduce a lot coverage whether

1062
01:25:57,440 --> 01:25:59,120
they move it in the back they're going to have to do

1063
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:03,940
storm water management at a house so I don't know yeah I'm

1064
01:26:09,480 --> 01:26:10,380
fortunate I think you

1065
01:26:10,380 --> 01:26:17,180
has too many options and you know it's the 54th is the critical area and we got the critical area

1066
01:26:17,180 --> 01:26:22,260
commission's lobby to come back and say no anyway they made their recommendation so I'm of the

1067
01:26:22,260 --> 01:26:30,360
opinion that we should send an unfavorable recommendation to the board of appeals because it

1068
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:37,680
doesn't show that it's a new hardship I mean he can move that around and put it at the 50 foot I mean

1069
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:39,920
And that's what it is.

1070
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:47,140
And so I would entertain a, I would make a motion that we send an unfavorable recommendation

1071
01:26:47,140 --> 01:26:54,180
for the variance based on the fact that it's not proven to be an undue or unreasonable

1072
01:26:54,180 --> 01:26:54,860
hardship.

1073
01:26:55,760 --> 01:27:03,720
And that building there would be required to follow within the 50 foot standard.

1074
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:03,780
here.

1075
01:27:18,970 --> 01:27:20,490
The Board

1076
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:35,040
of Appeals.

1077
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:35,660
Yeah.

1078
01:27:35,860 --> 01:27:36,720
You get another shot.

1079
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:38,440
And never agree with us anyhow.

1080
01:27:39,820 --> 01:27:41,880
No, your opinion mattered a lot to me.

1081
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:47,360
I mean, we might start replaning, but we appreciate your thoughtful consideration of

1082
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:47,500
this.

1083
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:50,200
And we understand your situation.

1084
01:27:50,660 --> 01:27:53,800
Unfortunately, the justifications.

1085
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:56,420
No, I understand.

1086
01:27:56,580 --> 01:27:56,980
Appreciate you all.

1087
01:27:57,480 --> 01:27:58,120
Thank you.

1088
01:27:58,500 --> 01:27:58,740
Thank you.

1089
01:28:21,340 --> 01:28:22,740
One more thing here.

1090
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:33,740
Thomas Parks is asking for a special exception cottage industry for automobile and marine

1091
01:28:33,740 --> 01:28:34,180
repair.

1092
01:28:34,540 --> 01:28:34,660
Also

1093
01:28:42,630 --> 01:28:45,750
back again to present this.

1094
01:28:46,690 --> 01:28:52,470
So, Thomas Parks is requesting a special exception to operate an automobile and marine repair

1095
01:28:52,470 --> 01:28:58,290
business as a cottage industry using an existing poll building that's on its property.

1096
01:28:58,290 --> 01:29:05,990
So, the applicant would like to use 2,300 fit building as marine non-bibular pair facility.

1097
01:29:07,550 --> 01:29:13,250
This business would be contained entirely within the existing accessory structure, and

1098
01:29:13,250 --> 01:29:15,990
this is in alignment with the Kent County Comprehensive Plan.

1099
01:29:16,630 --> 01:29:20,030
It means all requirements to establish under the cottage industry.

1100
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:28,900
So the site is located at 1291, Ireland's corner road in Galena, in the first election

1101
01:29:28,900 --> 01:29:34,940
district, its own community residential. The three and almost a half acre property is currently

1102
01:29:34,940 --> 01:29:41,700
used as the primary residence for Mr. Parks. The proposal utilizes an existing accessory structure

1103
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:48,020
for the cottage industry. All activities associated with the industry will remain inside the structure

1104
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:55,480
as required by the ordinance. No existing landscape will be removed. No additional structures will

1105
01:29:55,480 --> 01:29:59,960
be created. The app can also be created. Here it's so so we are.

1106
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,980
Create the business during standard daytime hours, and we'll hire no more than two additional staff members to operate the business. Traffic is expected to be minimal to the site, primarily for the pickup and drop off of automobiles or marine craft, which are also, they're going to be removed inside the structure immediately upon arrival. So, the applicable laws in this case are Article 3, Section 258, which identifies cottage industries for tradesmen and arts and shoppers.

1107
01:30:29,980 --> 01:30:35,070
In terms of staff comments,

1108
01:30:39,060 --> 01:30:43,480
the proposal fits within the requirements for cottage industry is defined.

1109
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:47,180
The act is made clear, the work will occur inside the structure.

1110
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:52,080
The proposal is aligned with the comprehensive plan.

1111
01:30:52,480 --> 01:30:58,580
The growth of cottage industry is one of the core strategies highlighted in the plan as a way to expand and diversify the businesses operating in the county.

1112
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:04,320
The comprehensive plan argues that is the responsibility of the planning department to assist these proposals through the permitting process.

1113
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:10,200
We see this proposal is not imposing any significant new demand on the existing infrastructure.

1114
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:16,380
It meets all requirements associated with the college industry or cottage industry use in the existing zoning.

1115
01:31:17,340 --> 01:31:24,980
So staff recommends forwarding a favorable recommendation to the Board of Appeals for approval of the special exception to operate a cottage industry.

1116
01:31:24,980 --> 01:31:25,760
Raise

1117
01:31:41,090 --> 01:31:46,050
your right hand, so we're going to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

1118
01:31:46,350 --> 01:31:48,850
And state your name and address to the record please.

1119
01:31:49,410 --> 01:31:53,050
Tom Parks, 1-3901, Ireland's corner row, Galena.

1120
01:31:54,050 --> 01:31:57,190
Cheryl Leonard, 1-2901, Ireland's corner row, Galena.

1121
01:32:03,220 --> 01:32:05,500
I want to restore cars.

1122
01:32:06,100 --> 01:32:11,420
It was my hobby, and I've worked at a severally dealership for 31 years.

1123
01:32:11,420 --> 01:32:18,040
and I'd like to do like sort of slow down and do it at home and just do

1124
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:25,680
meticulous restoration on cars and you know I don't want to disrupt the

1125
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:30,340
community in any way I just you know keep everything inside and quiet and

1126
01:32:38,820 --> 01:32:39,500
let's

1127
01:32:46,860 --> 01:32:55,140
custom fabrication bodywork yes yes yes not mechanical just body

1128
01:32:55,140 --> 01:32:56,980
Would you have a lift back there?

1129
01:32:57,260 --> 01:32:58,580
I have a lift back there, yes.

1130
01:32:58,660 --> 01:32:59,620
You have one now?

1131
01:32:59,860 --> 01:33:00,120
I do.

1132
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:00,660
Yes.

1133
01:33:05,370 --> 01:33:06,370
Same with both.

1134
01:33:09,730 --> 01:33:13,910
I won't do marine work, but it falls in with a cottage.

1135
01:33:14,790 --> 01:33:19,090
I had to file that way, because it was part of the...

1136
01:33:19,090 --> 01:33:20,050
It's part of the...

1137
01:33:20,050 --> 01:33:20,190
Yeah.

1138
01:33:20,730 --> 01:33:22,810
I don't work on marine stuff.

1139
01:33:23,550 --> 01:33:24,630
So it's basically cars.

1140
01:33:24,930 --> 01:33:25,430
Yes.

1141
01:33:25,890 --> 01:33:26,690
Body work.

1142
01:33:27,050 --> 01:33:27,270
Do

1143
01:33:31,620 --> 01:33:33,060
you need a state license for that?

1144
01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:34,460
No.

1145
01:33:34,460 --> 01:33:35,220
I'm

1146
01:33:38,260 --> 01:33:42,540
certified. I come from a somewhat of a background.

1147
01:33:46,050 --> 01:33:48,990
I'm certified for you know.

1148
01:33:49,130 --> 01:33:53,770
You're certified in the camp. I'm certified welder and certified in with all the

1149
01:33:53,770 --> 01:33:54,290
auto body.

1150
01:33:56,810 --> 01:33:59,890
Keep every well with the body work. Yes, you would be inside.

1151
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:04,420
It's

1152
01:34:04,420 --> 01:34:05,920
insulated in air condition.

1153
01:34:13,830 --> 01:34:18,270
I'm sorry. It seems pretty straightforward to me. Yeah I'm

1154
01:34:18,270 --> 01:34:25,990
I'm just trying to get a feel because if, to say you know, I look at it like it is

1155
01:34:30,790 --> 01:34:35,930
a residential area that's why I'm kind of asking some questions.

1156
01:34:36,510 --> 01:34:44,550
I've restored my own vehicles there on weekends and stuff and I've never had any complaints on noise or anything like that.

1157
01:34:46,470 --> 01:34:51,050
I'm always courteous and try to keep the doors closed and you know I've

1158
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:55,840
never had any problems so yeah.

1159
01:34:56,260 --> 01:35:00,140
There's no cars in all the vehicles, I won't be left out at night or anything.

1160
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:02,780
Neighbors can see a bunch of cars parked out there.

1161
01:35:02,980 --> 01:35:04,040
Never anything outside.

1162
01:35:04,480 --> 01:35:08,440
If you're going to be a classic car restoration, you're going to be keeping it inside.

1163
01:35:10,500 --> 01:35:14,400
It's not going to be a lot of slow tedious process.

1164
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:18,960
It is, it's not like everybody in and out here, but right, exactly.

1165
01:35:23,850 --> 01:35:37,950
Make a motion to send the favorable recommendation to the Board of Appeals for Thomas Park's request for a special exception to operate an automobile and marine repair business as a cottage industry.

1166
01:35:39,870 --> 01:35:41,690
The address is on there.

1167
01:35:43,930 --> 01:35:53,050
one, two, nine, oh, one, Ireland's corner road, Galena, the applicant meets Article 4, Section

1168
01:35:53,050 --> 01:35:57,990
3 of Unified Ordinance, and therefore, recommend a favourable.

1169
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:00,840
Seconded.

1170
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:07,180
Just get that.

1171
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:21,260
I've got a motion in a second.

1172
01:36:27,690 --> 01:36:39,770
I'll be able to see my car's on classic enough.

1173
01:37:00,870 --> 01:37:04,830
No, I can't actually think of anything, but I know it's quit.

1174
01:37:05,750 --> 01:37:08,690
Nobody is quit a whole month now.

1175
01:37:11,180 --> 01:37:18,850
We're still waiting to get repairs to the front office scheduled, so things have been a little

1176
01:37:18,850 --> 01:37:19,310
chaotic.

1177
01:37:25,430 --> 01:37:29,990
The back part of the office is, yes, so

1178
01:37:32,740 --> 01:37:36,320
no, I don't really think I have anything to report out or to discuss.

1179
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:38,800
I don't know if Mr. Maldives.

1180
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:39,360
You

1181
01:37:42,340 --> 01:37:43,500
see the motion towards Erwin?

1182
01:37:45,440 --> 01:37:45,880
All

1183
01:37:48,850 --> 01:37:49,370
right.

1184
01:37:50,010 --> 01:37:50,210
All right.